From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 00:05:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA12743 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12736 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA10691; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:32:35 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604280702.QAA10691@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Kermit? ZModem? To: Brett_Glass@ccgate.infoworld.com (Brett Glass) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:32:34 +0930 (CST) Cc: jraynard@dial.pipex.com, brett@lariat.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9603278306.AA830647933@ccgate.infoworld.com> from "Brett Glass" at Apr 27, 96 05:19:42 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brett Glass stands accused of saying: > > > If you go to /usr/ports/comms/{kermit, zmodem} and type 'make', it > > will automatically pull the source down from the relevant site and > > compile it for you (assuming you're on the Net at the time). > > I don't have the CD-ROM. I installed via the Net. So go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/comms and say 'get rzsz.tar.gz' and 'get kermit.tar.gz', and then make a dummy ports tree : # cd /usr # mkdir ports # mkdir ports/distfiles # mkdir ports/comms # cd /usr/ports/comms # tar xvzf and then go in and build them. All the other support for the ports structure is in /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk and friends. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 00:05:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA12797 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12792 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA10700; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:34:19 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604280704.QAA10700@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: SCO binary compatibility? To: jraynard@dial.pipex.com (James Raynard) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:34:19 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, candy@fct.kgc.co.jp, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604272349.XAA01746@dial.pipex.com> from "James Raynard" at Apr 27, 96 11:49:51 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard stands accused of saying: > > >>>>> Michael Smith writes: > > > > Yes, "options COMPAT_IBCS2", kernel rebuild. > > Are you sure about that? I don't seem to have that in any of my kernel > config files (not even LINT). Then again, I've never tried to run any > SCO binaries... Yes, very. You see, I _have_ run SCO binaries. And I checked the kernel configs on a machine that was at that very moment running a SCO binary, just to be sure 8) > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 00:26:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA13694 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13689 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA10839; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:55:20 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604280725.QAA10839@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Turning off IP forwarding To: craigs@venus.os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:55:19 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Craig Shrimpton" at Apr 27, 96 07:39:04 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Craig Shrimpton stands accused of saying: > > I'm building a SOCKS firewall with FreeBSD. I have two nic cards and it > seems to be working fine as a multi-homed proxy server. I just want to > make sure that IP forwarding and gatewaying is indeed disabled. > > Do I need to specify an option in the config file for the kernel or is IP > forwarding off by default? I read about an options IPFORWARDING=-1 but > I'm not sure if that's for BSDI or FreeBSD. Check the value of 'net.inet.ip.forwarding' with sysctl. If it's 0, no forwarding is performed. This can be determined at startup with the 'gateway=' option in /etc/sysconfig. > Craig -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 01:16:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA16905 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 01:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm.cse.rmit.EDU.AU (pm.cse.rmit.EDU.AU [131.170.118.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA16900 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 01:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from phillip@localhost) by pm.cse.rmit.EDU.AU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA14556; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:16:45 +1000 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:16:45 +1000 Message-Id: <199604280816.SAA14556@pm.cse.rmit.EDU.AU> From: Phillip Musumeci To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: scilab for FreeBSD Reply-to: phillip@rmit.edu.au Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I understand that Steve O'Hara-Smith has done a port of scilab (a _really_ powerful mathematical package from INRIA in France) for FreeBSD, and he has it uploaded on ftp.freebsd.org. Can you tell me if this package will automatically be included in future CD releases? Thanks, phillip --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Phillip Musumeci __ /\ Postal Address: Telephone: / \/ \ Dept. of Computer Systems Engineering ++61 3 96605317(w1) / \ RMIT, GPO Box 2476V ++61 3 96605383(w2) / / Melbourne 3001 ++61 3 96605340(fax) \ __ / AUSTRALIA RMIT Building 87.2.15, `-' \*/ WWW: http://pm.cse.rmit.edu.au/~phillip 410 Elizabeth Street. . EMAIL: phillip@rmit.edu.au --------------------------------------------------------------------------- UNIX _IS_ user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. --unknown From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 02:32:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA21198 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 02:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21193 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 02:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0uDSoP-000aoVC; Sun, 28 Apr 96 11:30 EET Received: (from ishort@localhost) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA09397; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:31:57 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:31:56 +0200 (SAT) From: Irvine Short To: David Greenman cc: steve hovey , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: weird ram problem In-Reply-To: <199604272258.PAA03187@Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Did you goys know that Triton only caches 64MB max? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 04:42:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA26969 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA26962 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA03947; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199604281142.EAA03947@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Irvine Short cc: steve hovey , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: weird ram problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Apr 1996 11:31:56 +0200." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:42:33 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Did you goys know that Triton only caches 64MB max? Yes, of course, why do you mention it? -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 05:49:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA28413 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 05:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lenzi ([200.247.248.103]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA28408 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 05:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by lenzi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA06014; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 20:06:31 -0300 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 20:06:30 -0300 (EST) From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@lenzi To: Alex Carlos Braga Antao cc: amnuay muthitacharoen , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NFS server error In-Reply-To: <3180F613.2D9B@linf.unb.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On regarding NFS server, My FreeBSD works very well as a nfs server, Make shure that the daemons are running, and the kernel is compiled whith NFS. And, the /etc/exports file has the options configured ok. ex: /usr -alldirs -maproot=root /home -alldirs -maproot=root. Please create /etc/exports whith dis options, reboot the machine. Should work. Sergio lenzi. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 06:46:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA29955 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 06:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iectech.com (netgate.iectech.com [198.136.226.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA29950 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 06:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by netgate.iectech.com id <6151>; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:46:33 -0400 From: Chris Peltier To: "'fyeung@fyeung5.netific.com'" Cc: "'questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Private address Forwarding by BSD Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:39:13 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 Encoding: 53 TEXT Message-Id: <96Apr28.094633edt.6151@netgate.iectech.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Francais said: >Chris, > > This explains it. Well, bring up routed -s and see what happens > to netstat -r. > > It will forward/route if you turn routed -s on. > > Make sure that you don't propagate your route to the world > . > > Francis >> >>Francis, >> >> No routing deamons are running on the FreeBSD routers or any >> other routers in our private network. The closest RIP/BGP provider is two hops away. >> Everything is defined as static routes on our nets. To answer your question: routedflags >> = NO in sysconfig. > > >> -- Chris Peltier >> Francis, That did the trick. I still do not understand why some some routes were available and others were not without running any routing daemons. Valid static routes existed to all networks and of course IP_FORWARDING = 1/GATEWAY=1 in the kernel configuration. It would help me to understand why I need to run gated even though I have static routes. I thought the IP layer forwarded based on kernel routing tables that gated or routed can manipulate. By placing static routes in the routing table I am doing the same thing correct ? The only time I should need a routing daemon is when my network is multi-homed and there are two or more paths to the same place (or I want my routes automatically). By making the routing explicit through static routes I would be safer because routers outside of my control cannot alter or make suggestions to my routing tables. --- Thanks for the help, Chris Peltier From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 07:05:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA00842 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from virginia.edu (mars.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA00837 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 07:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from archive.cs.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa06519; 28 Apr 96 10:05 EDT Received: from stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (atf3r@stretch-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.14]) by archive.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA02087; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (4.1/SMI-2.0) id AA16138; Sun, 28 Apr 96 10:05:26 EDT Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:05:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: Robert Nicholson Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ownership of /dev/console? In-Reply-To: <199604280653.QAA10666@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Nicholson said: > > Hi, I'm using xterm -C and I'd like to know how generally controlling > ownership of /dev/console is performed. I want to capture the output > of the console ... Is there a problem doing that? > > Currently, I've had to chown /dev/console to the login user. If you actually login on the console or vtty, you can have devices chowned to the login user using /etc/fbtab. It has a man page. I don'tbelieve this approach works for xdm. Adrian adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| Support your local programmer, System Administrator --->>>| STOP Software Patent Abuses NOW! NVL, NIIMS and Telemedicine Labs -->>| For an application and information Member: League for Programming Freedom ->| see: http://www.lpf.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 08:02:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA03293 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hunter.softcon.de (hunter.softcon.de [193.31.11.194]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03287 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 08:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.softcon.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA01941; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:01:53 +0200 Received: from boell.softcon.de(193.31.10.71) by hunter.softcon.de via smap (V1.3) id sma001938; Sun Apr 28 17:01:26 1996 Received: from kant.SoftcoN.de (kant.softcon.de [193.31.10.39]) by boell.SoftcoN.de (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA10125; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:58:53 GMT Message-ID: <9604281712.AA11247@kant.SoftcoN.de> Subject: Re: Anybody using a Zyxel Elite 2864? (Can not deduce modem type) To: robert@elastica.com (Robert Nicholson) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:12:22 +0200 (MST) Cc: flexfax@sgi.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604280339.XAA00449@justine.elastica.com> from "Robert Nicholson" at Apr 27, 96 11:39:36 pm From: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de (Matthias Apitz) Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de (Matthias Apitz) Organization: SoftcoN GmbH Phone: +49 89 61308-51 (company) Operating-System: UNIX_SV 4.2 1 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Nicholson wrote: My elite is using the latest ROM revision... (dated March 96 I think). You can't use the firmware version 1.12 with HylaFAX. I've posted the following to the ZyXEL beta-testers list and to ZyXEL: --start of insert-- Subject: firmware 2.01 DSS1 To: 2864i-testers@zyxel.com ... ati1 Elite 2864I DSS1: V 2.01 Internal fax/modem: V 1.12 .... The problems are: 1.) As described in the rel.notes the response for ATH is twice OK which makes 2.01 unuseable for HylaFAX w/o changing the source code of HylaFAX to skip this problem: at&f OK AT&F&O0&B1&S0S18=4S38.3=1S2=042E0V1Q0S0=0H0 OK OK .... --end of insert-- (note: do not use "&O0" in the string above for your modem; "&O0 is only for the ISDN 2864I; the rest of the AT-cmd should show the problem on your 2864 too;) My log is showing the following when I attempt to send a fax justine% faxstat Server on localhost:FIFO for all modems: Running. Job Modem Destination Time-To-Send Sender Status 1 any +17039180498 23:22 1996/04/27 Robert Nichols Queued and waiting justine% Apr 27 23:22:29 justine FaxQueuer[191]: SUBMIT JOB "sendq/q1" Apr 27 23:22:37 justine FaxSend[353]: /dev/cuaa1: Can not deduce modem type. My modem config file is as follows # $Header: /usr/people/sam/fax/./config/RCS/zyxel-1496e-2.0,v 1.14 1995/04/08 21:25:03 sam Rel $ # # HylaFAX Facsimile Software # # Copyright (c) 1990-1995 Sam Leffler # Copyright (c) 1991-1995 Silicon Graphics, Inc. # HylaFAX is a trademark of Silicon Graphics, Inc. <...deleted...> # &N0 Auto-negotiate highest possible DCE-DCE link rate # &S0 DSR always on # *F0 Deny remote configuration # S18=2 Receive at 38400 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <...deleted...> This will not work for your 2864; the values in S18 are changed from the 1496 to the 2864; see your 2864 manual for the new values; a working config file is also at http://www.vix.com/hylafax/FAQ/Q65.html Anybody know why it's complaining? Also, when I faxrm the job I get back a message but it says that "No transcript is available" How can I log the session to the modem so I can diagnose the problem? see the HylaFAX man pages of log(4) and config(4) and the man pages of your syslogd(1M) for the information how to trace the modem communication. Hope it helps; matthias -- firm: matthias.apitz@softcon.de [voc:+49 89 61308 51,fax: +49 89 61308 83] priv: guru@thias.muc.de WWW: http://www.softcon.de/~guru/ OR http://www.guug.de/GUUG/firmen/apitz/ Q: Can anybody think of any concept that was invented by Microsoft? A: A variety of affordable viruses. (from alt.unix.wizards) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 09:03:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA05910 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05905 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08415; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:00:40 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00240; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:03:27 -0400 (EDT) To: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de (Matthias Apitz) Subject: Re: Anybody using a Zyxel Elite 2864? (Can not deduce modem type) References: <9604281712.AA11247@kant.SoftcoN.de> Cc: 2864i-testers@zyxel.com, flexfax@sgi.com, questions@freebsd.org From: Robert Nicholson Date: 28 Apr 1996 16:03:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de's message of Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:12:22 +0200 (MST) Message-Id: Lines: 36 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.79/XEmacs 19.13 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm confused... look at this. ati1 4081 E2864 V 1.12 OK at&f OK AT&F&B1&S0S18=4S38.3=1S2=042E0V1Q0S0=0H0 OK I didn't get two OK's... perhaps it's an ISDN only problem? (Don't you use a european firmware revision?) Still though I get the cannot deduce modem errors without the FAQ hylafax patch and the correct S18 setting. So for now I might be able to get by with your config file. I take it S18 is the DTE thing that changed. BTW:... RE: see the HylaFAX man pages of log(4) and config(4) and the man pages of your syslogd(1M) for the information how to trace the modem communication. I set SessionTracing to 16383 ... it still doesn't put modem commands in my log file. Syslog is set correctly. Also, is the PPP that ships with freebsd configured to use "daemon" also? That's a bit of a bitch because you end up with both PPP and Hylafax information in the log file. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 09:46:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA09565 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wdl1.wdl.loral.com (wdl1.wdl.loral.com [137.249.32.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09554 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.sso.loral.com (miles.wdl.loral.com) by wdl1.wdl.loral.com (5.x/WDL-2.4-1.0) id AA16400; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:45:19 -0700 Received: by miles.sso.loral.com (4.1/SSO-SUN-2.04) id AA03183; Sun, 28 Apr 96 12:43:56 EDT Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:43:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Toren X-Sender: rpt@miles To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ?? host name resolution Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gentlemen; I am in the process of learning HTML and such. I just installed the Apache httpd on my 2.1R system. I am using a ppp link to get to the net. The problem is "what name do I use in a URL to find my own server?" and "Is this Netscape going direct to DNS or FreeBSD's resolution?" My host.conf is : # host.conf,v 1.2 1993/11/07 01:02:57 wollman Exp # default, try the /etc/hosts file hosts # then is to use the nameserver bind # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncomment the next line # nis Which I thought would use my local /etc/hosts file before going to the dns. When I give a URL of "http://localhost/psi/" I see (throuh tcpdump) a number of requests out the link for "home.netscape.com.", "home6.netscape.com.", "internic.net." and "www.localhost.com.". My /etc/hosts file contains the line: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.sso.loral.com for resolving 'localhost'. If I drop the ppp link, my server is found...? Any thoughts??? ==================================================== Rip Toren | The bad news is that C++ is not an object-oriented | rpt@miles.sso.loral.com | programming language. .... The good news is that | | C++ supports object-oriented programming. | | C++ Programming & Fundamental Concepts | | by Anderson & Heinze | ==================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 10:20:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA12102 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12097 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA16555; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 08:22:54 GMT Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa22446; 28 Apr 96 13:18 EDT Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 13:18:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Irvine Short cc: David Greenman , steve hovey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: weird ram problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, Irvine Short wrote: > Did you goys know that Triton only caches 64MB max? I know nothing about it - so are you saying it might function if I turn off the cache? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 10:24:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA12251 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12246 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19102; Sun, 28 Apr 96 17:24:40 GMT Message-Id: <9604281724.AA19102@fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA167362279; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:24:39 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:24:39 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: rpt@miles.sso.loral.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Toren on Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:43:55 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: ?? host name resolution Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Toren writes: Richard> Gentlemen; I am in the process of learning HTML and Richard> such. I just installed the Apache httpd on my 2.1R Richard> system. You don't need an HTTP server to test out your skills with HTML. Just write up your pages and use the `file:' URL, such as: file:/home/rpt/experiments/html/test.html If the ``and such'' refers to more advanced web features like CGI or server administration, then yes, you do need a server. Richard> The problem is "what name do I use in a URL to find my Richard> own server?" localhost ought to do it. Richard> and "Is this Netscape going direct to DNS or FreeBSD's Richard> resolution?" Despite whatever you can set up, that's up to Netscape, really. Richard> If I drop the ppp link, my server is found...? Any Richard> thoughts??? And if the PPP link is up, your server isn't found? In any case, I'd check to make sure your loopback route is installed. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 12:30:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA17957 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexus.xanadu2.net (nexus.xanadu2.net [206.242.128.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17952 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 206.242.128.30 ([206.242.128.30]) by nexus.xanadu2.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA01158 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 14:29:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3183D510.8D1@xanadu2.net> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 14:29:04 -0600 From: "Matthew Z. Stout" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Strange httpd behavior.... X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After running my web server for nearly 5 months without problems I dug in and mounted a second hard drive. A few days after this httpd and innd suddenly began exibiting delays of 2 or 3 minutes before filling a request. in both cases, the connection establishes right away but it waits before actually sending data. As I said, it has been running without a hitch and I made no changes to any configuration files. When I watch the connection with netstat it shows information in the Queue waiting to go out but it doesn't actually send it right away as it should. Can someone tell me why these two relatively unrelated services would suddenly begin acting up in this manner. By the way, all other services run great and at top speed, and I am running FreeBSD 2.1. Thanks in advance for the assist. Matthew ZS matt@xanadu2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 14:38:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA25902 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 14:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ipo.ipoline.com (ipo.ipoline.com [206.47.42.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25893 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 14:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm1a18.ipoline.com by ipo.ipoline.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35410; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:41:28 -0400 Message-Id: <3183E513.7E04@ipoline.com> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:37:23 -0400 From: Frank Chu X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Purchasing BSD X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, do you know can I obtain a copy of FreeBSD in Toronto, Canada? mailto:chu@ipoline.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 15:14:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA27549 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27537 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id SAA05481; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:17:07 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199604282217.SAA05481@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: Purchasing BSD To: chu@ipoline.com (Frank Chu) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <3183E513.7E04@ipoline.com> from "Frank Chu" at Apr 28, 96 05:37:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, do you know can I obtain a copy of FreeBSD in Toronto, Canada? > > mailto:chu@ipoline.com > You can send email to : Email: orders@cdrom.com (Orders) Or you can ftp it from : ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD Or you can order by phone : 1 800 786-9907 (toll-free in the US & Canada) Or you can order via the web: https://www-secure.cdrom.com/orderfrm.html Or you can read this wonderful Web page: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook242.html -branson -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | branson@widomaker.com Ferguson SysAdmin | http://widomaker.com/~branson From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 15:37:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA29238 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29233 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why ([205.150.249.1]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <189467-2>; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:33:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:32:53 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: Frank Chu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Purchasing BSD In-Reply-To: <3183E513.7E04@ipoline.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, do you know can I obtain a copy of FreeBSD in Toronto, Canada? > > mailto:chu@ipoline.com You can get it directly from the U of T bookstore downtown, they have it on the shelf. You can also ftp it from ftp.freebsd.org and it's various mirrors, or you can go to http:///www.cdrom.com and get it through the people who press the disks. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 15:59:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA01413 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com ([207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01404 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA05568; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:57:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: whistle.com: smap set sender to using -f Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005566; Sun Apr 28 15:57:33 1996 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA05651; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:58:21 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199604282258.PAA05651@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: route flush returns an error with FreeBSD 2.1.0-R(CD) To: john@starfire.mn.org Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199604242045.PAA06286@starfire.mn.org> from "john@starfire.mn.org" at Apr 24, 96 03:45:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix or work-around? Has > it been addresses in 2.2? I get this pretty often with 2.1-R: $ route -n flush default 192.168.103.1 done route: write to routing socket: No such process got only -1 for rlen $ Can anyone explain? ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@whistle.com * Whistle Communications Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 16:09:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA02241 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.fred.net [205.252.219.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02230 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com (mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11]) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA16832 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 19:08:36 -0400 Received: from localhost by mumps.pfcs.com with SMTP id AA15650 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 28 Apr 1996 19:08:35 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Missing VT menus from xterm? Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 19:08:34 -0400 Message-Id: <15648.830732914@mumps.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have FreeBSD-2.1 and XFree86312S (I think it's called) installed on several machines. From what I've seen, I have the same configuration files on all of the machines. But I can only get the VT menus (CTL-mouse-[123]) up on only one machine! I figure there's a small difference in some configuration file somewhere, but so far I haven't found it. I've been through the X and xterm man pages and many user-specific and system-default configuration files with no success. Any suggestions on where I should look? H From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 17:01:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA05060 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA05053 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA13466; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:30:49 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604290000.JAA13466@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Missing VT menus from xterm? To: Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com (Harlan Stenn) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:30:48 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15648.830732914@mumps.pfcs.com> from "Harlan Stenn" at Apr 28, 96 07:08:34 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Harlan Stenn stands accused of saying: > > I have FreeBSD-2.1 and XFree86312S (I think it's called) installed on > several machines. From what I've seen, I have the same configuration > files on all of the machines. > > But I can only get the VT menus (CTL-mouse-[123]) up on only one > machine! Turn off NumLock. > I figure there's a small difference in some configuration file > somewhere, but so far I haven't found it. > > I've been through the X and xterm man pages and many user-specific and > system-default configuration files with no success. > > Any suggestions on where I should look? > > H > -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 18:10:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA09561 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA09556 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:10:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Amooooo@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00632 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:10:22 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:10:22 -0400 Message-ID: <960428211020_523880456@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: need help Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Got this msg what does it mean and any hints to slove the problem. "unable to make new root file system on/devrw0a! Command return status 36 Thanks so much Adam(new freebsd user) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 18:22:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA10393 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npc.haplink.co.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10379 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 18:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by npc.haplink.co.cn (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA05675 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:27:33 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:27:33 GMT From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199604290927.JAA05675@npc.haplink.co.cn> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: After add FIREWALL options, can NOT ping out Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, when I added firewall options in a new kernel, recompiled and reboot, all seems ok, but can not get any host name and ping out. What wrong? It's for firewall options? But I even have no chance to run ipfw! Best regargs! --xiyuan From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 20:25:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA16233 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 20:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com ([206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA16228 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 20:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04760; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:25:13 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:25:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD distribution, how many? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Realizing that it is a free product these numbers will be expectedly rough, but does anybody know what the distribution of FreeBSD is? How many people are using FreeBSD now? Or of failing at that, how many FreeBSD CDROM's have been sold? How many times has the 2.1-R snap been downloaded? Curious.. -Brandon Gillespie- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 21:07:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA17808 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA17803 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway1.thss.thornhill.on.ca (root@gateway1.thss.thornhill.on.ca [205.150.252.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA24367 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:07:17 -0700 Received: from tiger1.thss.thornhill.on.ca (tiger1.thss.thornhill.on.ca [205.150.252.65]) by gateway1.thss.thornhill.on.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA21693 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:57:02 -0400 Received: from TIGER1/PMAILQ by tiger1.thss.thornhill.on.ca (Mercury 1.21); 29 Apr 96 00:12:50 +1100 Received: from PMAILQ by TIGER1 (Mercury 1.21); 29 Apr 96 00:12:33 +1100 Received: from d.myers by tiger1.thss.thornhill.on.ca (Mercury 1.21); 29 Apr 96 00:12:28 +1100 Message-ID: <3184410B.4839@tiger1.thss.thornhill.on.ca> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:09:47 -0400 From: "D. Myers" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've just installed Free BSD v2.0.5 and everything seems to be working great. I am having a problem with sendmail, we can send and receive locally but outside the domain we can only send. Can anyone help me? Duane dmyers@tiger1.thss.thornhill.on.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 21:19:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA18188 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VX23.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (vx23.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18179 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:18:57 -0700 (PDT) From: yhcha3@student.monash.edu.au Received: from cfs01-37.cc.monash.edu.au ("port 1429"@cfs01-37.cc.monash.edu.au) by vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V5.0-6 #16291) id <01I447S8YIPA8ZPTNQ@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:18:45 +1000 Received: from CFS01/SpoolDir by cfs01.cc.monash.edu.au (Mercury 1.21) ; 29 Apr 96 14:18:43 EST-10 Received: from SpoolDir by CFS01 (Mercury 1.21); 29 Apr 96 14:18:31 EST-10 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:18:25 AEST-10 Subject: ???? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <156EC0C2C55@cfs01.cc.monash.edu.au> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is this all about ?????? ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** ************************************ YHCHA3@STUDENT.cc.monash.edu.au ********************************************************************** *** CHA CHA CHA ***************************************************** ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 21:27:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA18646 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA18635 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA22978 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:33:27 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199604282133.VAA22978@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: GNATS port for FreeBSD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:33:27 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Is there a FreeBSD port of GNATS ? Thanks. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 22:54:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA23433 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23428 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA13415; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:57:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:57:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Rosa Ma. Nielsen G." cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Rosa Ma. Nielsen G. wrote: > What files do I need to download, or configure, in order to work with > a PPP acount using a 14.4 modem ? You already have the necessary software. It's called, strangely enough, "ppp". :-) Configuration can take some time, however. Your best bet is to look at /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.sample and derive one for yourself from that. There is information available in the Handbook as well. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 22:56:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA23555 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23548 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA13434; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:59:13 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:59:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: yhcha3@student.monash.edu.au cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ???? In-Reply-To: <156EC0C2C55@cfs01.cc.monash.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996 yhcha3@student.monash.edu.au wrote: > What is this all about ?????? freebsd-questions is a mailing list for the support of the FreeBSD operating system. Further information about FreeBSD can be found at http://www.freebsd.org. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:02:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA23804 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA23798 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13483; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:05:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Christiaan Keet cc: dima@irs.riga.lv, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Christiaan Keet wrote: > > when the 2.1 Release is booted using ATAPI enabled kernel on > > boot disk, my CD-ROM is not recongnized. It runs ok under DOS > > and OS/2. What may be done ? > > I've just run into the same problem. It's an IDE CDROM that doesnt go > through a Soundblaster but sits directly on the Primary or Secondary > IDE interface. Fine under Dos but not picked up when the kernel boots :( Hm. ATAPI hardware varies a lot, it may be that you two have bogus hardware. :( You might try moving the CDROM between the controllers and positions (slave on 1st, single or master on 2nd) Make sure you are using the ATAPI.FLP for the boot floppy image. (It sounds like you are) Also check that the IRQ and base address for the second IDE controller (wdc1) match up to your system's configuration. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:04:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA23941 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA23935 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13502; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:07:42 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:07:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: larry alpert cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: boot options In-Reply-To: <31824670.4A3@enter.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, larry alpert wrote: > I was wondering if bsd can be set up as a seperate boot option (I > already have a Novell 4.1 server option on SCSI drive) as you know > novell boots thru dos first. > Can I set up BSD in a multi-boot config???? > Would like to play with it to compare. You certainly may, using a boot manager. OS-BS (which comes on the CD or is available on the ftp site) is quite good. I personally use OS/2's Boot Manger. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:10:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA24187 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA24181 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13549; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:13:43 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: SINELNIKOV@sbmp04.ess.sunysb.edu cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cont'd!!! Boot hangs In-Reply-To: <960426220417.20400538@sbmp04.ess.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Apr 1996 SINELNIKOV@sbmp04.ess.sunysb.edu wrote: > Hello list, > > Thank you for your help, though freebsd still hangs at the boot prompt. > However I noted some warrnings it issues during the instalation. If anyone > can tell me what they mean I will be very gratefull: > > DEBUG: Scanning disk wd0 for swap partition > Warrning: calculated sectors per cylinder (4096) disagree with disk label > (840) > /dev/rwd0a: 65536 sec in 16 cyl of 1 track, 4096 sec > 32.0Mb in 1 cyl groups (16c/g, 32Mb/g, 3840 i/g) Yup, this is a geometry problem. Try making a small DOS partition on that disk, then delete it and make the FreeBSD partition over it in sysinstall/fdisk. > Is that related to disk geometry? I use the autodetect hard drive from BIOS. > I have also never seen the dos partition properly alligned (no '=' sign)... > What is the other way to get right disk geometry? I noted also that is CMOS the > size of the disk is 405Mb as chkdsk report 424Mb? Different computation. Your CMOS may be using 2^20 (1,040...) B/MB for 1MB, and CHKDSK may be using 10^6 (1million) B/ MB. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:30:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA24946 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA24941 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13688; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:33:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: francis yeung cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNATS port for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199604282133.VAA22978@fyeung5.netific.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, francis yeung wrote: > Is there a FreeBSD port of GNATS ? Yes there is. It should compile and install cleanly. I have it set up on a server here and it works like a champ. BE aware, though, that 'send-pr' is already included with the FreeBSD distribution for reporting bugs back to the development team. I renamed mine to send-pr-fbsd to avoid the conflict. Just make sure you're calling the right one when you're testing. I made the mistake of not renaming send-pr first :-) Also, the makedist (?) facility for making send-pr packages wasn't working the greatest last time I checked. I think it barfs looking for some readme file. :( But you can ftp the necessary files around and install them manually with little trouble. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:32:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA25036 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA24989 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13710; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:35:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:35:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ron Echeverri cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set bootable after sysinstall? In-Reply-To: <199604270311.UAA03791@ennui.ops.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Ron Echeverri wrote: > After installing a second IDE hard drive with sysinstall, i want now to set > that drive as bootable so i may boot off it. What should i do? You have to use a boot manager to get to the second disk. OS-BS or Booteasy (on the CDROM or the ftp site in /tools) are good choices. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:34:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA25104 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25099 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13729; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:37:59 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:37:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ben Wern cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE CDROM Failure? In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960427182007.2ecffd66@192.1.1.9> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Ben Wern wrote: > I have a NEC 4x IDE CDROM that I installed from, and it worked just fine and > dandy until I shutdown for an extended vacation. When I brought it back up > and tried to mount, I got this: > > "cd9660: /dev/wcd0c: Invalid argument" > > mount_cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom also produced the same effect. Every third or > forth try, it quietly mounts (including a quick check of the disc). However, > when I cd to it, the dir is completely blank. Now, was it working AFTER the install? If this is the first time the installed system was booted, you'll have to rebuild the kernel with the ATAPI options detailed in LINT. > mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0a /cdrom told me that the device wasn't configured, and > when I tried to MAKEDEV, it told me "bad unit for disc in: cd0a" cd0 is the SCSI CDROM. Did you try ./MAKEDEV wcd0? :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:36:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA25264 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25255 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13758; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:40:14 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Kernel config file / "conflict" etc. In-Reply-To: <199604270940.FAA06388@mercury.interpath.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account wrote: > I don't mean to be dense, but are all the keywords in the config file > docuented someplace? The handbook has lines for lots of possible devices, > but no detailed info on, for example, "conflict." Since lpt0 and sb0 > both want IRQ 7, sb0 specifies "conflict," as per LINT. But the usual > lpt0 does not specify "conflict." Do I need to add it? LINT should have all the valid options. The Handbook also has a discussion. My guess would be yes, you need to add "conflict" to both devices in question. However, I would move my SB to irq 5 and avoid the whole mess. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:41:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA25522 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25516 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13790; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:44:59 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: ajhal@ecr.mu.oz.au cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199604280610.QAA18207@spot.ecr.mu.OZ.AU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Apr 1996 ajhal@ecr.mu.oz.au wrote: > There seems to be a problem with the file 'bin.cc'. > When I try to install FreeBSD and it reaches that file, > an error message appears. > > "Write error, -1 bytes form 10240 bytes" > NB: it seem that file 'bin.cc' has the size of 241,482 bytes, > rather than 240,640 bytes like the rest of the 'bin.*' files. Yes, that is a corrupted bin.cc. Try replacing it with one from the FTP site or CDROM. Make sure you download in 'binary' mode. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:49:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA25836 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hunter.softcon.de (hunter.softcon.de [193.31.11.194]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25831 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.softcon.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA02452; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:48:42 +0200 Received: from boell.softcon.de(193.31.10.71) by hunter.softcon.de via smap (V1.3) id sma002450; Mon Apr 29 08:48:12 1996 Received: from kant.SoftcoN.de (kant.softcon.de [193.31.10.39]) by boell.SoftcoN.de (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA17185; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:45:37 GMT Message-ID: <9604290859.AA23393@kant.SoftcoN.de> Subject: Re: Anybody using a Zyxel Elite 2864? (Can not deduce modem type) To: robert@elastica.com (Robert Nicholson) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:59:28 +0200 (MST) Cc: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de, 2864i-testers@zyxel.com, flexfax@sgi.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Robert Nicholson" at Apr 28, 96 04:03:25 pm From: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de (Matthias Apitz) Reply-To: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de (Matthias Apitz) Organization: SoftcoN GmbH Phone: +49 89 61308-51 (company) Operating-System: UNIX_SV 4.2 1 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Nicholson wrote: I'm confused... look at this. ati1 4081 E2864 V 1.12 OK at&f OK AT&F&B1&S0S18=4S38.3=1S2=042E0V1Q0S0=0H0 OK I didn't get two OK's... perhaps it's an ISDN only problem? (Don't you use a european firmware revision?) My complain was related to the ISDN DSS1 firmware revision 2.01 which itself contains the 1.12 fax/modem firmware: ati1 Elite 2864I DSS1: V 2.01 Internal fax/modem: V 1.12 7AB7 It looks like the OK OK problem does only exist together with the ISDN firmware. Perhaps someone from ZyXEL could say something about this question. Still though I get the cannot deduce modem errors without the FAQ hylafax patch and the correct S18 setting. So for now I might be able to get by with your config file. I take it S18 is the DTE thing that changed. BTW:... RE: see the HylaFAX man pages of log(4) and config(4) and the man pages of your syslogd(1M) for the information how to trace the modem communication. I set SessionTracing to 16383 ... it still doesn't put modem commands in my log file. Syslog is set correctly. Also, is the PPP that ships with freebsd configured to use "daemon" also? That's a bit of a bitch because you end up with both PPP and Hylafax information in the log file. I set LogFacility: local0 ServerTracing: 11 SessionTracing: 11 The init-cmd's from HylaFAX will be logged as ServerTracing (until the modem is READY). With different entries for "local0" and "daemon" you could direct the logs to different files for PPP & HylaFAX. matthias -- firm: matthias.apitz@softcon.de [voc:+49 89 61308 51,fax: +49 89 61308 83] priv: guru@thias.muc.de WWW: http://www.softcon.de/~guru/ OR http://www.guug.de/GUUG/firmen/apitz/ Q: Can anybody think of any concept that was invented by Microsoft? A: A variety of affordable viruses. (from alt.unix.wizards) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:55:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA26085 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA26080 Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13948; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:59:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Palmer cc: "Mark O'Lear" , Jim Dennis , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MH: inc can't connect to POP mailbox In-Reply-To: <13844.830611234@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > > I fixed that. Modify patch-aa and uncomment the pop sections. > > Infact, since sometime in February, it's been the default to INCLUDE > POP support: > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/mail/mh/patches/patch-aa,v > Working file: patch-aa > [blah blah] > revision 1.3 > date: 1996/02/23 01:25:08; author: pst; state: Exp; lines: +8 -8 Well, that would explain a lot. I'm using the 2.1-R port, which is apparently behind the times: # @(#)$Id: patch-aa,v 1.2 1995/08/15 20:08:02 gpalmer Exp $ I'll pull the ports-current version and give it another spin. > > Is there any way to build a port and have it stop just before it starts > > building it? ie "make patch"? > > Depends where you want it to stop... > > The steps are (if I remember) fetch, checksum, extract, patch, > configure, build, install. All are available targets for make. Thanks. There have been times when I've wanted to change the default setups without having to ^C the process, and I didn't feel like putting up with compiling it myself. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:57:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA26185 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paloalto.access.hp.com (daemon@paloalto.access.hp.com [15.254.56.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA26180 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by paloalto.access.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA046071029; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:57:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199604290657.AA046071029@paloalto.access.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA267911026; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:57:06 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: Apache server config file with FreeBSD 2.1R ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 16:57:06 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Excuse me, but I failed to find the config file for apache httpd as shipped default with 2.1R. Can anyone help ? I need to do add changes to make it support virtual domains. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 23:59:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA26304 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA26298 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 23:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA13987; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:02:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Amooooo@aol.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: need help In-Reply-To: <960428211020_523880456@emout19.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Apr 1996 Amooooo@aol.com wrote: > Got this msg what does it mean and any hints to slove the problem. > "unable to make new root file system on/devrw0a! Command return status 36 System specs? Some more information (perhaps some of the events leading up to the error) would be helpful. My initial guess is that you're trying to install over a failed installation. You have to wipe the partition out first. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:00:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA26427 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26422 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I43WMFBVLS002N2G@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:58:42 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA17990; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:03:53 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:03:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: GNATS port for FreeBSD In-reply-to: <199604282133.VAA22978@fyeung5.netific.com> To: fyeung@fyeung5.netific.com (francis yeung) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199604290703.JAA17990@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Greetings, > > Is there a FreeBSD port of GNATS ? gnats - the bug tracking system - is built into freebsd when shipped. (send-pr is built in). ports/distfiles/gnats-3.2.tar.gz gnat - gnu ada translator is in ports/lang. > > Thanks. > > Francis > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:04:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA26601 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA26594 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA14030; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:07:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:07:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Sean Batson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netscape 3.0 Javascripts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > Under observation, Netscape's Java interface eats up VM space > after downloading a web page and leaving it idle; you can just > see the VM space(swap) decrease and decrease unitl the entire > system crashes and I mean crash. (A WEB PAGE WITH A JAVA SCRIPT > SCROLLING DATA ON THE STATUS LINE). That is not good. :( I've hated that stupid scroller down there. Now I have some ammunition as to why NOT to use it: it crashes UNIX boxes. (I have an excuse to turn off Java, now one to turn off JavaScript!) There has been some discussion that Netscape may use a buggy version of malloc() that has a memory leak. It's statically linked from the BSD/OS libs, which may contain the error. > Shouldn't there be some sort of crash recovery machanism in XFREE > to clean up and then RELOAD in these kind of instances? No, not really. It suffers from the same bug. :( To semi-quote: GOOD SOLUTION: relink Xfree with the -lgnumalloc flag. (think that's right). BAD (but easier) SOLUTION: exit and restart the X server every so often. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:05:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA26689 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.jaxnet.com (root@mailhub.jaxnet.com [204.183.221.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26683 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ben (ts2-002.southeast.net [204.183.221.197]) by mailhub.jaxnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA29423; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960429071133.4b1708ba@192.1.1.9> X-Sender: bwern@192.1.1.9 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:11:33 -0400 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu From: Ben Wern Subject: Re: IDE CDROM Failure? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Now, was it working AFTER the install? If this is the first time the >installed system was booted, you'll have to rebuild the kernel with the >ATAPI options detailed in LINT. Yes, this was after a 2 month old, fully funciton install - this particular kernel had been running for 2 months, with a function CDROM. >cd0 is the SCSI CDROM. Ahh. Whoops. :) >Did you try ./MAKEDEV wcd0? :-) Well, the devices already existed (like I said, it was working), but after a couple of failure days, I removed it and remade it. Still, no success. Perhaps I should just chuck all my disks and put in a SCSI system. :) Ben bwern@jaxnet.com or bwern@unf.edu Try New and Improved Jello: V 2.0 "I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:07:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA26821 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA26815 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA14066; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:10:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:10:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Helio Coelho Junior cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Password in a directory In-Reply-To: <199604280016.VAA01732@sv.compuland.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Helio Coelho Junior wrote: > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > user need to type to have access granted ? Not that I know of. You should be able to restrict this using group permissions. Just add the people you want access to the directory to a specific group, and then chmod the directory to grant permissions to that group. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:08:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA26960 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA26951 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0uDn32-000aoZC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:07 EET Received: from IRVINEP5 (irvinep5.pcm.co.za [196.3.226.90]) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA11198; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:08:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199604290708.JAA11198@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:02:41 +2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: weird ram problem Reply-to: ishort@pcm.co.za CC: steve hovey X-Confirm-Reading-To: ishort@pcm.co.za X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, Irvine Short wrote: > > > Did you goys know that Triton only caches 64MB max? > > I know nothing about it - so are you saying it might function if I turn > off the cache? Well, you said the behaviour of your system varied according to how much RAM was in it. It definitely sounds as if there is something marginal with your motherboard. If it works properly with 4 x 16M then it might be best to leave it that way and get a new motherboard when you need more than 64M Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Professional Computer Manufacturers Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:14:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA27222 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA27217 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA14124; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:18:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:18:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Pierre Sarrazin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems installing 2.1.0-R In-Reply-To: <199604270224.WAA26853@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Pierre Sarrazin wrote: > I'm having problems installing FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. I can't seem > to get a valid kernel on the hard disk. [stuff deleted] > Under "Distributions", I select "Clear" because I intend to get > the bin distribution from the slave disk (on it, there is a 60MB > DOS partition and then a 265MB FreeBSD 2.0.5 partition; in the > latter's filesystem, I've stored the bin.?? files I'll need; > I intend to extract the bindist myself). > > Under the "Media" menu, I don't know precisely what to choose, since I > don't want to extract any distribution. Yes you do. If this is a new install, you MUST include the bin dist. No choice. That is why you are missing a kernel; it is in there. I guess I'm confused as to what you are doing. Are you trying to install a new system? Or are you trying to prepare a new empty disk? > When I select "Commit", the installation starts well but at some point > it starts complaining that it doesn't find a kernel image to link to > on the root file system. Other times, it complains about not finding > the root image. > > This is confusing because I don't always follow the program's > reasoning. Things seemed to be easier before the installation > procedure was made user-friendly... Your sentement is shared with one of my colleagues -- he prefers the 1.1.5.1 text-based install. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:20:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA27441 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA27392 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA14169; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:23:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Michael Smith cc: James Raynard , msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, candy@fct.kgc.co.jp, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCO binary compatibility? In-Reply-To: <199604280704.QAA10700@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > James Raynard stands accused of saying: > > > > >>>>> Michael Smith writes: > > > > > > Yes, "options COMPAT_IBCS2", kernel rebuild. > > > > Are you sure about that? I don't seem to have that in any of my kernel > > config files (not even LINT). Then again, I've never tried to run any > > SCO binaries... > > Yes, very. You see, I _have_ run SCO binaries. And I checked the kernel > configs on a machine that was at that very moment running a SCO binary, > just to be sure 8) This is a 2.1-R machine? In this case the iBCS2 compatibility options are VERY POORLY defined. To the point that we need to add it to LINT and make an appropriate note in sysconfig. (and Linux while we're at it) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:22:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA27672 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA27667 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA14191; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:25:26 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sound questions: ESS688 (SB Pro) In-Reply-To: <199604270936.FAA06293@mercury.interpath.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account wrote: > > I have an ESS688 sound chip, which is a SoundBlaster Pro compatible. Both > "Dark Forces" and Linux find it to be a perfectly adaquate SoundBlaster, but > I'm having a wee bit of trouble with FreeBSD. Oh, joy. AudioDrive. :) > The usual "LINT" line for SB looks like: > > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr > > But mine is on i/o 3, so I changed it to: What is i/o 3? That means nothing. IRQ 3, you mean? Or DMA 3? Or port address 0x230? Please be more specific. > > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 3 vector sbintr > > When I boot up, sb0 is recognized as, not just a SoundBlaster, but a > SoundBlaster Pro. Cool. > > But when I play something to /dev/audio, I get a "popping" sound once as > the item starts, and then silence. Wrong setting. Probably IRQ. Researching the above should yield the proper answer. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:32:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA28101 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA28096 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA14268; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:35:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ben Wern cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE CDROM Failure? In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960429071133.4b1708ba@192.1.1.9> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Ben Wern wrote: > >Now, was it working AFTER the install? If this is the first time the > >installed system was booted, you'll have to rebuild the kernel with the > >ATAPI options detailed in LINT. > > Yes, this was after a 2 month old, fully funciton install - this particular > kernel had been running for 2 months, with a function CDROM. Wierd. (Strangeness class upgrade) This is quickly escaping my expertise. Final suggestions: 1) Does it work with DOS okay? Looking at a possible hardware failure. Check cables, etc.... 2) Hope someone else who actually knows something about ATAPI answers the question. :) > >Did you try ./MAKEDEV wcd0? :-) > > Well, the devices already existed (like I said, it was working), but after a > couple of failure days, I removed it and remade it. Still, no success. > > Perhaps I should just chuck all my disks and put in a SCSI system. :) I dumped a TEAC proprietary for a Plextor 4.5PleX SCSI and a NCR controller. Works under freebsd and blows the pants off of that nasty teac. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 00:44:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA28727 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kanto.cc.jyu.fi (root@kanto.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA28710 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kallio@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanto.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA26221 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:43:47 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:43:46 +0300 (EET DST) From: Seppo Kallio To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ** DISKLESS boot problem with 960330 SNAP ** In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have same configuration using 2.1 and 2.2-SNAP-960330 kernel Diskless Boot with 2.1 goes OK, boot with 2.2 SNAP hangs after npx0 on motherboard npx0 INT 16 interface NFS ROOT: 47.99.97.109 I do not know what this 47.99.97.109 is. I have not defined that kind of IPs. Our net is 130.234.0.0 Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 01:02:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA29833 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 01:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dub-img-3.compuserve.com (dub-img-3.compuserve.com [198.4.9.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA29826 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 01:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dub-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id EAA00964; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:02:17 -0400 Date: 29 Apr 96 04:01:17 EDT From: Berend de Boer <100120.3121@CompuServe.COM> To: freebsd-install Subject: add kernel.ATAPI to install CD-Rom Message-ID: <960429080117_100120.3121_EHQ116-2@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, I think it's wise to add a kernel.ATAPI to the CD-Rom and in the installation script make this kernel the default if people are installing from a ATAPI CD-Rom. Else you can install from CD-Rom and as soon as you boot, your CD-Rom is inaccessible. And if you did not install the sources, you even can't recompile the kernel (I think) to add CD-Rom support. I'm not on this list, so if you have further questions/comments, please mail me directly. Yours sincerely, Berend. (-: From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 01:28:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA01288 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 01:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ucthpx.uct.ac.za (ucthpx.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA01077 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 01:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ucthpx.uct.ac.za (Smail3.1.29.1 #22) id m0uDoFJ-000vaeC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 10:23 SAST Message-Id: From: smarq@ucthpx.uct.ac.za (S Marquard) Subject: PPPD doesn't die cleanly in 2.1-R (bug?) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:23:49 +0200 (SAST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In the pppd (kernel PPP) in 2.1-RELEASE, if a pppd process dies on a read error, the cleanup procedures are never called. This results in the ppp0 or whatever interface being left configured with the host and remote IP addresses used for that session. If the system is setup to dynamically allocate PPP addresses, this can cause problems - another PPP session can use the same PPP interface, with different host and remote IPs. The interface doesn't get reconfigured for some reason to the new addresses, and a subsequent PPP session on a different ppp interface which is allocated the addresses of the original session (which died), fails. The PPP addresses are on a different subnet to the ethernet interface, and proxyarp is not being used. I fixed this problem by the following patch to /usr/src/usr.sbin/pppd/sys-bsd.c: *** sys-bsd.c.OLD Mon Feb 26 22:11:17 1996 --- sys-bsd.c Mon Apr 29 10:13:09 1996 *************** *** 168,173 **** --- 168,174 ---- return -1; } syslog(LOG_ERR, "read(fd): %m"); + lcp_lowerdown(0); /* die cleanly */ die(1); } return len; Since making this change, things have worked perfectly. Is this a genuine bug in 2.1 pppd, and has it been fixed in -current and -stable? Stephen Marquard smarq@ucthpx.uct.ac.za scm@picasso.wcape.school.za From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 01:44:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA02557 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 01:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.fred.net [205.252.219.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA02552 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 01:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com (mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11]) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA18330 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:43:53 -0400 Received: from localhost by mumps.pfcs.com with SMTP id AA20995 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:43:52 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Using a Linix swap area for FreeBSD? Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:43:52 -0400 Message-Id: <20993.830767432@mumps.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way (easy?) to have FreeBSD recognize and use a Linix swap area as FreeBSD swap space? H From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 03:33:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA08351 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bowden.uces.bangor.ac.uk (bowden.uces.bangor.ac.uk [147.143.15.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA08214 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newton.uces (newton.uces.bangor.ac.uk) by bowden.uces.bangor.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Apr 96 11:29:25 BST Received: by newton.uces (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA01644; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:29:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:29:44 +0100 From: tom@uces.bangor.ac.uk (Tom Crummey (ADM)) Message-Id: <199604291029.LAA01644@newton.uces> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATAPI CR-ROM X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've found the the atapi floppy for freebsd-2.1 RELEASE does not recognise many ATAPI CDROM's, yet when I build a custom kernel I can use the CDROM. In all cases the CDROM has been on a second IDE controller with no other devices. The change that seems to make things work is to remove the probe for wd2 and wd3 from the kernel and make sure the CD-ROM is the master device on the second IDE bus. You could therefore try booting with kernel -c and removing the wd2 and wd3 devices and see what happens. Tom. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Crummey, EMAIL: tom@uces.bangor.ac.uk | /\ University of Wales, Bangor, | / \/\ Unit for Coastal and Estuarine Studies, | /\/ \ \ Ynys Faelog, Menai Bridge, TEL: +44 (0)1248 713808 |/ ======\=\ Gwynedd, LL59 5EY, U.K. FAX: +44 (0)1248 716729 | B A N G O R ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 04:08:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA09882 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apx00.physik.uni-frankfurt.de (apx00.physik.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.31.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA09747 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apx08.physik.uni-frankfurt.de by apx00.physik.uni-frankfurt.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20534; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:04:33 +0200 Received: by apx08.physik.uni-frankfurt.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20924; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:04:13 +0200 Message-Id: <9604291104.AA20924@apx08.physik.uni-frankfurt.de> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Differents between FreeBSD and NetBSD Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 13:04:12 +0200 From: Gunter Geis Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What I want to know is what is the different between FreeBSD and NetBSD.Is there a big different or is it only the name wich one is the better choice for Amiga Computers or PC-Clones? If I want to built a small local net of Computers would it be better to take NetBSD because there is the netsupport build in or is it equal? Maybe you can give me some informations. Thanks a lot My e-mail adress: geis@physik.uni-frankfurt.de Gunter Geis From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 04:39:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA11057 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eris.cs.umb.edu (rlb@eris.cs.umb.edu [158.121.104.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA11052 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eris.cs.umb.edu id AA26958 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:43:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:43:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert L. Bailey" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: iBCS2 WP ; slices Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Has anyone been able to install the SCO version of WordPerfect under FreeBSD-2.1.0-R? I have the devices made for spx, socksys, X0R, etc., along with having IBCS2=YES in my sysconfig file and options "COMPAT_IBCS2" defined in my kernel. Does anyone have any ideas? The errors which I recieved are two fold. 1st, the install script complains that it cannot open /dev/socksys because address not found, and the second is that it cannot open DISPLAY :0.0 I think that the error about not being able to open /dev/socksys originates from not finding the address for DISPLAY. I have tried seting the DISPLAY to localhost:0.0 as done so in a linux installation, along with logging into localhost before starting X, and I have xhost + set. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance. Bob Bailey P.S. In the kernel configuration I had to define: options "COMPAT_IBCS2" and not options COMPAT_IBCS2 Also the devices which are needed for running SCO bins are not generated by default. It might be nice if these devices were created at install time, since the option to run iBCS2 is in the /etc/sysconfig file -- or atleast a note concerning the generation of these devices should be added to the sysconfig file next to the IBCS2=YES option. In a non-related issue, I have one more question. I have just changed a dos partition to a freebsd partition. I wasn't able to find the docs regarding how to generate slices. What I ended up doing was to boot from the install disks and "re-install" the diskpartition and label section. This required me to select the FLOPPY media, which of course I did not put the disks in to so that it wouldn't install over my current system. I would like to know what the commands were that were executed when I did this. Specificaly when the slices were made for this new partition, and how the new FS was created. The docs refer to making an entry in a disktab file and then running newfs, however the install program doesn't use the disktab file (i think), and the slices were not created by which I could run the newfs exec on the old dos partition. Can anyone tell me how do do this manualy? Thanks again, Bob Bailey UMASS/Boston UNIX: rlb@cs.umb.edu IRC Nic: rlb, cons32 UMASS/Boston VAX/VMS: cons32@umbsky.cc.umb.edu IRC: #linux -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAy+7TBYAAAEEAMn8BhZ5vSuhBLY1Dcf9VeOLKu/lwgUm6jgZD6361DWLncUh Xuyir46vIIdl9krEudMwC01CnOULIwUdX6/S+kr+C/Inl6e86CJpRm4ZHBFTjov9 xK15bz5V7xpaD825eUUpu1sOcPS9hc9myHbbusaPlZxAOnzfi9sBOI70RqZdAAUR tCtSb2JlcnQgTC4gQmFpbGV5IDxjb25zMzJAdW1ic2t5LmNjLnVtYi5lZHU+ =E+in -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 04:42:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA11236 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA11220 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA05260; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:29:06 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199604291129.NAA05260@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ** DISKLESS boot problem with 960330 SNAP ** To: kallio@cc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:29:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Apr 29, 96 10:43:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I have same configuration using 2.1 and 2.2-SNAP-960330 kernel > > Diskless Boot with 2.1 goes OK, boot with 2.2 SNAP hangs after > > npx0 on motherboard > npx0 INT 16 interface > NFS ROOT: 47.99.97.109 > > I do not know what this 47.99.97.109 is. I have not defined that kind of > IPs. Our net is 130.234.0.0 Perhaps a mismatch on the (alignement of ?) nfs_diskless structure ? The ascii codes look suspiciouly similar to part of a pathname. > NFS ROOT: 47.99.97.109 / c a m Seppo, what are your paths ? Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 04:45:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA11364 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nibsc.ac.uk (comsig.nibsc.ac.uk [193.62.43.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA11160 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk by nibsc.ac.uk via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.1(NIBSC)) for id MAA05264; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:38:25 +0100 Received: by chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/client-1.3.1(NIBSC)) id MAA06915; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:38:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199604291138.MAA06915@chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk> Subject: SOC emulation and IBCS kernel options To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:38:24 +0100 (BST) From: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Could someone please save my sanity and give us a definitive comprehensive answer to this one. Just exactly what 'options' statements are/aren't needed for SCO emulation in which versions of FreeBSD. I have the strong feeling that 1.5.xx had no suport, 2.0.5 had some with IBCS2, and COMPAT_IBCS is now used in 2.1R Moreover, it seems that 2.2 (snaps) don't need it in the kernel at all. Please someone authoritative (or at least well informed) clear this mess up. P.S. Whislt you're at it can you do the same with LINUX, COMPAT_LINUX, LINUX_COMPAT etc. in 1.5, 2.0.5. 2.1R -stable and -current. Ta. Mac Assistant Systems Adminstrator @nibsc.ac.uk mac@nibsc.ac.uk (also postmaster) Work: 01707 654753 x 285 Everything else: 0956 237670 (any time) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 04:47:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA11443 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA11438 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA26842; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:47:06 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (MAA02483); Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:04:08 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199604291204.MAA02483@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: bin.cc write error To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:04:08 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <199604280610.QAA18207@spot.ecr.mu.OZ.AU> from "uucp" at Apr 28, 96 04:10:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > X-Personal_Name: Andrew > From: ajhal@ecr.mu.OZ.AU > Subject: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > > There seems to be a problem with the file 'bin.cc'. > When I try to install FreeBSD and it reaches that file, > an error message appears. > > "Write error, -1 bytes form 10240 bytes" The problem is not in the file, one of your filesystems is full, there is no space to untar the distribution -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 04:55:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA11719 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA11713 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA26847; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:47:07 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (MAA02545); Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:08:15 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199604291208.MAA02545@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Smallest kernel ? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:08:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604262212.PAA28056@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Apr 26, 96 03:12:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Perhaps just for the fun of it, I was trying to figure out what could > > be the smallest kernel I could get for a diskless system. > > By removing most things I managed to a 544.319 bytes kernel > > (some 70KB are symbols), although this has FFS and no WD/FD driver. > > NFS instead of FFS requires 100KB more. > > > > I was wondering, is there some option (apart from gzip) which can > > be turned on to produce a smaller kernel ? Especially for NFS, > > perhaps the 100KB are for both client & server, UDP and TCP code ? > > Strip the symbols. Once, I read that striping the kernel is not a good solution, because some programs (who, ps, etc) cannot work after it. Isn't it true for FreeBSD? -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 05:50:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA13815 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 05:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obelix.cica.es (obelix.cica.es [150.214.1.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13807 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 05:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from amora@localhost) by obelix.cica.es (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21154 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:47:19 +0200 (GMT-2:00) From: "Jesus A. Mora Marin" Message-Id: <199604291247.OAA21154@obelix.cica.es> Subject: troubles with IBCS emulation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:47:18 +0200 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, folk! I am a proud user of FreeBSD 2.1R since last January and some time ago got rid of the Linux slice on my 1GB hard disk, in order to enlarge the BSD one. Nevertheless, I've run into some trouble recently, when tried to get Informix 4.1 to work on FreeBSD with IBCS emulation enabled. Of course, I recompiled my custom kernel including the following options in the config file: options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options "COMPAT_IBCS2" options "IBCS2" I have got the shared libs `libc_s' and `libnsl_s' from SCO Unix 386 3.2.`something else' and copied them into a new directory `/shlib'. I tested the new kernel with Korn Shell obtained from a more recent version of SCO Unix and it ran smoothly. So I added a new ad-hoc account `informix' and installed Informix 4.1 (Standard Engine, ISQL and RDS) on its home directory. But when I try to execute any sentence inside the SQL I get an "engine terminated unexpectedly" or something alike. On console, the following message arises: "jammsys/kernel: pid : sqlexec: uid : exited on signal 10" ktracing the sqlexec process this dump results: sqlexec RET read 53/0x34 CALL old.lstat(0xefbfdc2a, 0, 0x1, 0, 0) RET old.lstat 0 PSIG SIGBUS SIG_DFL NAMI "sqlexec.core" The question is whether I have missed some crucial point or not. I am very interested in this matter, so any suggestion, comment or hint will be welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot. Jesus. PS.: By the way, two additional questions of less interest: 1) Is there any way to execute old Xenix-286 binaries? Current implementation of IBCS doesn't seem to recognize them. I wonder whether the 286-emulator included in SCO Unix 386 is of any value. 2) Can be supported emulation for IBCS and Linux on the same kernel? Thanks again! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 06:18:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA15247 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 06:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nation-net.com (mailgate.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA15237 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 06:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w14.winecellar.co.uk (194.159.125.14) by mailgate.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:19:43 +0000 Message-ID: <3184C18C.2B3E@nation-net.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:18:04 +0100 From: Paul Walsh Organization: Walsh Simmons X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help - FreeBSD as a router References: <199604261828.TAA04761@plum.blueberry.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Got FreeBSD/Apache running on a 10bT ethernetwork. Our Microrouter 900i keeps losing its settings more and more frequently (pain). Is it possible to use freeBSD as a router. And what other hardware would I need ? Regards, Paul Walsh. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 06:19:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA15297 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 06:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sos.state.il.us (sos.state.il.us [199.15.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA15290 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 06:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccgate.sos.state.il.us (ccgate.sos.state.il.us [199.15.1.5]) by sos.state.il.us (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA13279 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:44:50 -0500 Received: from ccMail by ccgate.sos.state.il.us (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA830791465; Mon, 29 Apr 96 07:41:17 CST Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 07:41:17 CST From: "Terry Woods" Message-Id: <9603298307.AA830791465@ccgate.sos.state.il.us> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: IBM Valuepoint S3 Video Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am now trying to Bring up XFree86 on an IBM ValuePoint with S3 86C801/805 Chipset with an ATT20C490-80 ramdac. I have tried all the configurations and options suggested in the README.S3 docs. Each time I try to start X (xinit) I get a momentary band of color then a blank screen followed by a warm boot. Does anyone have this conifguration working? Thanx in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 06:45:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA16319 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 06:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgate.flevel.co.uk (fgate.flevel.co.uk [194.6.101.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA16305 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 06:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by fgate.flevel.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA09934; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:51:13 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:51:13 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Laptops and removable drives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone suggest a laptop that will run FreeBSD and XFree86, with an ethernet adaptor, decent display, and removeable hard drives? Please cc replies to graham@flevel.co.uk. Thanks Graham Breach From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 06:48:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA16433 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 06:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emma.sea.uct.ac.za (emma.sea.uct.ac.za [137.158.131.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA16367 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 06:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from shaun@localhost) by emma.sea.uct.ac.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA00276 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:43:43 +0200 From: Shaun Courtney Message-Id: <199604291343.PAA00276@emma.sea.uct.ac.za> Subject: Cron job and at jobs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:43:42 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I wonder if someone can give me a pointer to fixing this problem. I'm running 2.1.0: I have a cron job that runs nightly to mirror a satellite image (if it exists). Once it has be w3mir (Web mirror perl script) some processing in done to the image to rename it to the image date etc... A perl script then moves the image and writes a "at job file which is the set to run 8 days latter. Here is the problem, the script exits with the error: Apr 28 04:35:00 emma atrun[29155]: Userid 107 mismatch name root - abortin g job c00d33f57.00 I've tried to make the cron script setuid but this doesn't work! HELP! Thanks Shaun Courtney P.S. Here is the cron script: #!/bin/sh DATE=`date '+%d%m%y'` echo "Started script at $DATE" cd /usr/home/vanballe/bin/w3mir echo "Grabbing lastest image..." ./w3mir http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/avhrr-images/agulhasgac/latest-1.gif echo "Grabbing text page..." lynx -dump http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/htbin/imagery/m:agulhasgac-0 > $DATE .html ./noaa.pl < $DATE.html rm $DATE.html at -f atjob now + 8 days #rm atjob echo "Removed temporary files and set at job." echo "Fin." --------------------------snip snip----------------------- Here is the atjob file: rm -rf /home/vanballe/webdocs/25April1996.gif -- Oceanography Department, University of Cape Town, South Africa Finger for PGP key Powered by FreeBSD "Whatever the missing mass of the universe is, I hope it's not cockroaches!" -- Mom From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 07:12:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA17529 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17523 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I449YGYFU8002TKN@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:21:01 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00813; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:27:44 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:27:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: Password in a directory In-reply-to: To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: helio@compuland.com.br, questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199604291327.PAA00813@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Helio Coelho Junior wrote: > > > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > > user need to type to have access granted ? If you alias the cd command accordingly :-) > > Not that I know of. > > You should be able to restrict this using group permissions. Just add > the people you want access to the directory to a specific group, and then > chmod the directory to grant permissions to that group. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 07:16:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA17718 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phantom (phantom.nvl.army.mil [140.183.5.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA17710 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phantom by phantom with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uDtkg-0002nYC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 10:16 EDT Message-ID: <3184CF42.17AB@nvl.army.mil> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:16:34 -0400 From: Casey Jones Organization: U.S. Army Night Vision & Electronic Sensors X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk lists From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 07:26:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA18379 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phantom (phantom.nvl.army.mil [140.183.5.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA18371 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by phantom (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uDtuL-0002nYC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 10:26 EDT Message-Id: From: sjones@nvl.army.mil (Casey Jones) Subject: subscribe To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: sjones@nvl.army.mil X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe questions sjones@nvl.army.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 07:40:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA19451 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19436 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from louie.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id HAA26991 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:40:30 -0700 Received: from snow-white.ee.udel.edu by louie.udel.edu id aa19197; 29 Apr 96 10:39 EDT Received: from stimpy.eecis.udel.edu by snow-white.ee.udel.edu id aa24319; 29 Apr 96 10:37 EDT Received: from snow-white.ee.udel.edu by stimpy.eecis.udel.edu id aa21389; 29 Apr 96 14:37 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help Compiling 2.1S Organization: Mos Eisley Candy Store MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <21384.830788652.1@louie.udel.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:37:32 -0400 From: Jerry Alexandratos Message-ID: <9604291437.aa21389@stimpy.eecis.udel.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to "make world" on the latest version of 2.1-STABLE that I just supped. I seem to be getting one major error that causes the compilation to cease. Whenever make tries to compile regi.texi, it bombs and quits out of the compilation process. I've included the following error messages that are spurted out right before "make world" stops: regex.texi:2214: itemize requires an argument: the formatter for @item. regex.texi:2236: itemize requires an argument: the formatter for @item. regex.texi:2254: itemize requires an argument: the formatter for @item. regex.texi:2271: itemize requires an argument: the formatter for @item. regex.texi:2308: itemize requires an argument: the formatter for @item. regex.texi:2323: itemize requires an argument: the formatter for @item. regex.texi:2346: itemize requires an argument: the formatter for @item. Has anyone seen this problem before? Anything I can do to fix it? As always, thanks in advance... --Jerry 8) Jerry Alexandratos % - % "Nothing inhabits my (8 8) alexandr@louie.udel.edu % - % thoughts, and oblivion (8 8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu % - % drives my desires." (8 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 08:21:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA22778 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22771 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA27570; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:19:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:19:51 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199604291519.JAA27570@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: smarq@ucthpx.uct.ac.za (S Marquard) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPD doesn't die cleanly in 2.1-R (bug?) In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In the pppd (kernel PPP) in 2.1-RELEASE, if a pppd process dies > on a read error, the cleanup procedures are never called. Actually, 'die()' is the generic cleanup process. ... > I fixed this problem by the following patch to > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pppd/sys-bsd.c: > > *** sys-bsd.c.OLD Mon Feb 26 22:11:17 1996 > --- sys-bsd.c Mon Apr 29 10:13:09 1996 > *************** > *** 168,173 **** > --- 168,174 ---- > return -1; > } > syslog(LOG_ERR, "read(fd): %m"); > + lcp_lowerdown(0); /* die cleanly */ Would it be better to add lcp_lowerdown() to die(), which would fix any occurance of PPPD dying abnormally and not cleaning things up correctly? (I didn't look at this too closely, but it seems to be a better 'generic' fix for the problem.) If you could add the code to die() and test it I would certainly be willing to commit it. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 08:23:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA22885 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22877 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from professor.eng.umd.edu (professor.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.207]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25942; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by professor.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27846; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:23:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@professor.eng.umd.edu To: Gunter Geis cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Differents between FreeBSD and NetBSD In-Reply-To: <9604291104.AA20924@apx08.physik.uni-frankfurt.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Gunter Geis wrote: > What I want to know is what is the different between > FreeBSD and NetBSD.Is there a big different or is it > only the name wich one is the better choice for Amiga > Computers or PC-Clones? > If I want to built a small local net of Computers > would it be better to take NetBSD because there is > the netsupport build in or is it equal? > Maybe you can give me some informations. > Thanks a lot NetBSD and FreeBSD are relatively friendly, competing camps, differing is philosophy. The NetBSD people want to support a wide array of different machines, so NetBSD is available for many different computers. FreeBSD concentrates on the Intel processor family, so FreeBSD folks have more time to devote to making their one platform support very good. If you're thinking about computers using Intel processors, I'd choose FreeBSD, and if you're thinking about making a lot of disparate platforms work, well, NetBSD. The 'Net' in NetBSD doesn't mean networking, both NetBSD and FreeBSD have excellent networking support. Both groups share code when it makes sense, but there's room for competing approaches to common problems, so often there are differences in the way that FreeBSD and NetBSD do things. Don't expect them to look exactly (or work exactly) alike. ========================================================================== Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu, I run FreeBSD-current on n3lxx + Journey2 Three Accounts for the Super-users in the sky, Seven for the Operators in their halls of fame, Nine for Ordinary Users doomed to crie, One for the Illegal Cracker with his evil game In the Domains of Internet where the data lie. One Account to rule them all, One Account to watch them, One Account to make them all and in the network bind them. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 08:32:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA23670 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA23665 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA16492; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:01:47 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604291531.BAA16492@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Laptops and removable drives To: david@fgate.flevel.co.uk (David Southwell) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:01:47 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, graham@flevel.co.uk In-Reply-To: from "David Southwell" at Apr 29, 96 02:51:13 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Southwell stands accused of saying: > > Can anyone suggest a laptop that will run FreeBSD and XFree86, > with an ethernet adaptor, decent display, and removeable hard drives? That really depends on your budget &c. The Toshiba Satellite Pro 410CS is a pretty good buy, and the new Sharp PC9000 looks good too. Both of these will set you back around $6K (australian) for a usable configuration. The biggest drawback with laptops is the displays - only the latest and most expensive have 1027x768; you're looking at over $8K to put one on the road. (For reference, $1AUS ~ $0.73US, UKP1 ~ $2.2AUS) > Graham Breach -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 08:37:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA23884 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (sarrazip@maggie.CS.McGill.CA [132.206.51.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA23879 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sarrazip@localhost) by maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) id LAA21766; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:36:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:36:57 -0400 From: Pierre Sarrazin Message-Id: <199604291536.LAA21766@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: Problems installing 2.1.0-R Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu Mon Apr 29 03:14:44 1996 >On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Pierre Sarrazin wrote: >> I'm having problems installing FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. I can't seem >> to get a valid kernel on the hard disk. [...] >If this is a new install, you MUST include the bin dist. No >choice. That is why you are missing a kernel; it is in there. > >I guess I'm confused as to what you are doing. Are you trying to install >a new system? Or are you trying to prepare a new empty disk? The bin dist was on the slave disk, which doesn't seem to be an available option under the Media menu. But I solved my problem. I went into the holographic shell using Alt-F4, I mounted the slave disk's 2.0.5 filesystem on /mnt and the master disk's DOS partition on /dos. Then I copied the bin dist from the 2.0.5 fs to the DOS partition (in C:\FREEBSD\BIN). After that, I selected "DOS partition" in the Media menu and the rest went relatively well. I thought that when I cleared the set of distributions to install, it would avoid extracting the bin dist. I also thought that the GENERIC kernel to be put on the hard disk was some sort of modified copy of the boot floppy's kernel. I guess I thought too much. >> This is confusing because I don't always follow the program's >> reasoning. Things seemed to be easier before the installation >> procedure was made user-friendly... > >Your sentement is shared with one of my colleagues -- he prefers the >1.1.5.1 text-based install. Interesting... Thanks for your help. Pierre. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 08:43:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA24126 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sycgate.sycomore.fr (sycgate.sycomore.fr [192.134.92.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24088 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.134.92.34] (unknown.sycomore.fr [192.134.92.34]) by sycgate.sycomore.fr (8.6.3/8.5) with SMTP id RAA06206; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:24:06 +0200 X-Sender: berenguier@192.134.92.10 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:43:03 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Eric.Berenguier@sycomore.fr (Eric Berenguier) Subject: problems with FTP install in Release 2.1.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I want to install FreeBSD Release 2.1.0 with the FTP install option, but when the program try to access the ftp server, i get a very nice dialog box saying: Couldn't open FTP connection to X.X.X.X where X.X.X.X is the IP address of the FTP server. And i'm taken back to the main menu. I like very much when error messages are full of details saying what the problem is :-) There are no details about it in the debug window (VT2) (but i can see: DEBUG: Network initialized succesfully) I've tried both the nearest FreeBSD Mirror(ftp.ibp.fr) , and a local machine where i had copied the whole distribution. There are no hardware problem, because i had freebsd (2.0) on this computer with the same configuration before. My hardware config is: 486DX2-66 ram 16Mb / 420Mb IDE HD / Two NE2000 Any idea about this problem ? What can i do? Thanks, Eric Berenguier From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 09:40:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26028 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from molhub.mol.net.my (molhub.mol.net.my [202.190.128.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26023 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [202.190.153.52] by molhub.mol.net.my; Tue, 30 Apr 96 00:42:58 +0800 Message-ID: <3183E4C3.3060@mol.net.my> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 14:36:03 -0700 From: Denis Malyavin Organization: Dalat School X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Hello X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Toshiba T3400 486 25Mhz 12M Ram 110M HDD (notebook) Do you think its worth to install FreeBSD on my system? I also have a PPP internet account. If so...how do I get it of the net..... Where can I get the WWW software and other stuff... Thank You.. Denis Malyavin denism@mol.net.my From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 09:49:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26491 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26264 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA05654; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:30:14 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199604291630.SAA05654@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Smallest kernel ? To: zgabor@CoDe.hu (Gabor Zahemszky) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:30:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604291208.MAA02545@CoDe.CoDe.hu> from "Gabor Zahemszky" at Apr 29, 96 12:07:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I was wondering, is there some option (apart from gzip) which can > > > be turned on to produce a smaller kernel ? Especially for NFS, > > > perhaps the 100KB are for both client & server, UDP and TCP code ? > > > > Strip the symbols. > > Once, I read that striping the kernel is not a good solution, > because some programs (who, ps, etc) cannot work after it. > Isn't it true for FreeBSD? Yes. BTW, stripping the kernel only saves disk space (precious on a floppy, but not that precious on the NFS server), the symbols do not occupy RAM. Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 09:56:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA27067 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netlink.co.uk (root@castle.netlink.co.uk [194.72.237.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27058 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by netlink.co.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #6) id m0uDwEm-000DnTC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 17:55 BST Message-Id: From: trig@netlink.co.uk (Christiaan Keet) Subject: Installation probs... cant load root distribution To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:55:48 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm installing from a SCSI drive (DOS) to an IDE drive. It makes the new filesystems and starts copying the files from c:\freebsd\ Everything's fine untill it gets to 'loading root image'. It bombs out with 'failed to load the root distribution. correct this problem and try again' The debug log says: gunzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated /stand/cpio: premature end of file Any idea what this means? Christiaan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 09:58:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA27173 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha1.phoenix.net (gemohler@alpha1.phoenix.net [199.3.232.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27168 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by alpha1.phoenix.net; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/26Jan96-1253PM) id AA20542; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:58:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:58:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Geoff Mohler To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Development (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:19:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Geoff Mohler To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: FreeBSD Development > Hi. > > I've worked with the Cubix equipment in the past on commucations > software applications under their SVR3 clone on their little Cubix > cubes. Say "Hi" to Mike in developer relations, if he's still > there from "Terry at Century Software". (I'm not still there 8-)). > > The hardware is not significantly different from most PC hardware, > and what you are calling a port is probably more properly just > a need for drivers to support some of their hardware. > > > The "AMD SCSI and 10bT controllers", are these by chance the AMD > PCNet (Am79C974) chips? Yes..you are correct. > The AMD PCNet chips "net" is a LANCE ethernet chip. The current > ethernet drivers work with this chip without modification, as long > as you pick the right IRQ and port addresses. What do I need to do to get BSD to detect this chipset..it cant find it by default. > The SCSI portion of this chip is an NCR 780(?) compatible chip... > I remember reading a post on one of the lists about a driver being > available for the SCSI portion, but I didn't save the thing. Most > uncharacteristic of me. 8-(. Thats ok..we can swap the SCSI 1G drives for IDE..not a problem. Just point me as to where I need to go, to get the Ethernet up. Thanks. G From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 10:21:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA28455 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.kaet.asu.edu (www.KAET.ASU.EDU [129.219.120.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28443 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biff (biff.KAET.ASU.EDU [129.219.120.252]) by www.kaet.asu.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09464 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:19:35 GMT Message-ID: <3184FAAA.4EF5@asu.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:21:46 -0700 From: Tom Emerson Organization: Arizona State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: shmget() X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are the system V ipc and shm (shared memory) system calls working correctly? I was trying to use the shmget() system call, and it core dumped -bad system call-. I tried the same call on a Solaris box, and it worked OK there. TIA Tom Emerson KAET Television Arizona State University (another die-hard BSD fan!) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 10:29:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA28835 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28826 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA18433; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:33:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Berend de Boer <100120.3121@CompuServe.COM> cc: freebsd-install Subject: Re: add kernel.ATAPI to install CD-Rom In-Reply-To: <960429080117_100120.3121_EHQ116-2@CompuServe.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 29 Apr 1996, Berend de Boer wrote: > I think it's wise to add a kernel.ATAPI to the CD-Rom and in the installation > script make this kernel the default if people are installing from a ATAPI > CD-Rom. Not too bad of an idea. Or just include it in GENERIC (bloat it even more than it already is). > Else you can install from CD-Rom and as soon as you boot, your CD-Rom is > inaccessible. And if you did not install the sources, you even can't recompile > the kernel (I think) to add CD-Rom support. If you can't do that, then how have people been getting atapi support after installation? :-) If you install the sources, you can build a kernel without any further need of the cd. Look in LINT for the appropriate ATAPI options. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 10:35:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA29211 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29198 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA18457; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:35:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: M C Wong cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache server config file with FreeBSD 2.1R ? In-Reply-To: <199604290657.AA046071029@paloalto.access.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, M C Wong wrote: > Excuse me, but I failed to find the config file for apache httpd as > shipped default with 2.1R. Can anyone help ? I need to do add changes > to make it support virtual domains. Apache isn't shipped "default" with 2.1-R. You have to install the port/package to get it (last I remember). If it did come with 2.1, then you want to upgrade it -- there have been many, many changes to Apache since January (namely 1.0x). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 10:48:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA29826 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29821 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id KAA27374 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id SAA08831 ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:44:31 +0100 (BST) To: Tom Emerson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: shmget() In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:21:46 PDT." <3184FAAA.4EF5@asu.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:44:30 +0100 Message-ID: <8829.830799870@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tom Emerson wrote in message ID <3184FAAA.4EF5@asu.edu>: > Are the system V ipc and shm (shared memory) system calls > working correctly? I was trying to use the shmget() system > call, and it core dumped -bad system call-. Did you compile support into your kernel? Its an option, not a default... (see /sys/i386/conf/LINT) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 10:52:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA00194 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00184 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA18600; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:55:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:55:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Paul Walsh cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help - FreeBSD as a router In-Reply-To: <3184C18C.2B3E@nation-net.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Paul Walsh wrote: > Got FreeBSD/Apache running on a 10bT ethernetwork. Our Microrouter 900i > keeps losing its settings more and more frequently (pain). Is it > possible to use freeBSD as a router. And what other hardware would I > need ? Yes you can; you don't need any special hardware other than an appropriate number of Ethernet cards. Check out FAQ question 10.2, reprinted below. Don't ask me questions on this, I'm just relaying information. :-) -- click -- 10.2. I've heard that you can use a FreeBSD box as a dedicated network router - is there any easy support for this? Internet standards and good engineering practice prohibit us from providing packet forwarding by default in FreeBSD. You can however enable this feature by changing the following variable to YES in /etc/sysconfig: # If you want this host to be a gateway, set to YES. gateway=YES This option will put the sysctl variable net.inet.ip.forwarding to 1. In most cases, you will also need to run a routing process to tell other systems on your network about your router; FreeBSD comes with the standard BSD routing daemon routed(8), or for more complex situations you may want to try GaTeD (available by FTP from ftp.gated.Merit.EDU) which supports FreeBSD as of 3_5Alpha7. It is our duty to warn you that, even when FreeBSD is configured in this way, it does not completely comply with the Internet standard requirements for routers; however, it comes close enough for ordinary usage. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 10:53:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA00268 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from techie.zyxel.com (zyxel.com [204.217.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00263 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from is.zyxel.com by techie.zyxel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uDx5A-000AsUC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 10:49 PDT Received: by is.zyxel.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB35BA.3F4F9570@is.zyxel.com>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:54:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nimesh Doshi To: "robert@elastica.com" , "'Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de'" Cc: "2864i-testers@zyxel.com" <2864i-testers@zyxel.com>, "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Anybody using a Zyxel Elite 2864? (Can not deduce modem type) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:54:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 Encoding: 84 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes this problem was only with the ISDN models and not the Elite 2864 or the OMNI 288S. It does not matter if the firmware is European or USA. Thanks NICK. >---------- >From: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de[SMTP:Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de] >Sent: Sunday, April 28, 1996 11:59 PM >To: robert@elastica.com >Cc: Matthias.Apitz@SoftcoN.de; 2864i-testers@zyxel.com; flexfax@sgi.com; >questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Anybody using a Zyxel Elite 2864? (Can not deduce modem type) > >Robert Nicholson wrote: > > I'm confused... look at this. > > > ati1 > 4081 > > E2864 V 1.12 > > OK > at&f > OK > AT&F&B1&S0S18=4S38.3=1S2=042E0V1Q0S0=0H0 > OK > > I didn't get two OK's... perhaps it's an ISDN only problem? (Don't you > use a european firmware revision?) > >My complain was related to the ISDN DSS1 firmware revision 2.01 >which itself contains the 1.12 fax/modem firmware: >ati1 > >Elite 2864I DSS1: V 2.01 >Internal fax/modem: V 1.12 >7AB7 > >It looks like the OK OK problem does only exist together with the >ISDN firmware. Perhaps someone from ZyXEL could say something >about this question. > > Still though I get the cannot deduce modem errors without the FAQ > hylafax patch and the correct S18 setting. > > So for now I might be able to get by with your config file. > > I take it S18 is the DTE thing that changed. > > BTW:... > > RE: see the HylaFAX man pages of log(4) and config(4) and the > man pages of your syslogd(1M) for the information how to trace > the modem communication. > > I set SessionTracing to 16383 ... it still doesn't put modem commands > in my log file. Syslog is set correctly. Also, is the PPP that ships > with freebsd configured to use "daemon" also? That's a bit of a bitch > because you end up with both PPP and Hylafax information in the log > file. > >I set > >LogFacility: local0 >ServerTracing: 11 >SessionTracing: 11 > >The init-cmd's from HylaFAX will be logged as ServerTracing (until >the modem is READY). With different entries for "local0" and "daemon" >you could direct the logs to different files for PPP & HylaFAX. > > matthias >-- >firm: matthias.apitz@softcon.de [voc:+49 89 61308 51,fax: +49 89 61308 83] >priv: guru@thias.muc.de > WWW: http://www.softcon.de/~guru/ OR http://www.guug.de/GUUG/firmen/apitz/ > >Q: Can anybody think of any concept that was invented by Microsoft? >A: A variety of affordable viruses. (from alt.unix.wizards) > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 11:15:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01441 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tchnet.tchnet.com (tchnet.tchnet.com [198.109.196.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01436 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dashadow@localhost) by tchnet.tchnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA00770; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:14:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:14:27 -0400 (EDT) From: John Hart To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I went in and made a quick change in pppd's source. Then I compiled it, and copied it into place. It didn't work, so I then removed my change in the source and recompiled. When I copied the original back into place, it still doesn't work. Anyone able to tell me what the permissions for /usr/sbin/pppd should be? John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Hart, System Administrator Technet Internet Services dashadow@tchnet.com (517)796-8200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 11:15:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01475 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua (root@harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua [193.124.63.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01455 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from univers.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id VAA03420 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:08:11 +0300 Received: by univers.chernovtsy.ua; Mon, 29 Apr 96 21:04:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 21:04:19 +0300 From: joshua@univers.chernovtsy.ua (Oleg N.Kolesnikov) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Subject: Q: Troubles with /etc/aliases file X-Mailer: BML [UNIX Beauty Mail v.1.39] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello ! When I put to the /etc/aliases the following line: community: ":include:/home/ok/users_list" it didn't get user name from users_list and said: 'mail.local: unknown name: ":include:/home/ok/users_list"' an idea ? thanks in advance, Oleg N.Kolesnikov --- Oleg N.Kolesnikov UniCom Ltd. FidoNet: 2:4625/2.12 SysAdmin +380 3722-41633 E-Mail: joshua@univers.chernovtsy.ua From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 11:25:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA02047 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02042 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA15086; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:25:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:25:35 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9604291825.AA15086@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help - FreeBSD as a router In-Reply-To: References: <3184C18C.2B3E@nation-net.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > It is our duty to warn you that, even when FreeBSD is configured in this > way, it does not completely > comply with the Internet standard requirements for routers; however, it > comes close enough for ordinary > usage. I am responsible for the original utterance of this sentence. I have no idea if it is still true. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 11:53:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA03797 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03785 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00904; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:52:38 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199604291852.LAA00904@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Password in a directory To: helio@compuland.com.br (Helio Coelho Junior) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604280016.VAA01732@sv.compuland.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Junior" at Apr 27, 96 09:16:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > user need to type to have access granted ? > > thanks! > HElio. I don't know of any way to do this using "standard" Unix conventions. You could create a special group -- with a password and allow access using the newgrp(1) command (which seems to be conspicuously missing from FreeBSD). Under Linux you could look into the cryptfs (Cryptographic FileSystem) program. From what I gather (perusing the HOW-TO) it's available on some other forms of Unix. I guess it wouldn't be completely transparent (i.e. the 'cd' command wouldn't invoke the 'cattach' command which is the program that actually prompts for the cryptographic key and performs the other necessary work to allow access. However it seems that cfs is user and applications transparent beyond that point. Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 12:39:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA06247 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06242 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA28964 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:39:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA05980 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:25:48 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199604291925.VAA05980@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: memory usage for a shell To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:25:47 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for a shell which is less memory-hungry than tcsh, but possibly has some of its facilities such as line editing, history and file-name completion. Any suggestion ? [To those who ask why: try running tcsh and enjoy its RSS at or above 1MB while you run your "ls" or similar stuff!] Cheers Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 12:47:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA06729 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06723 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I44NDVJF8W002U92@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:45:23 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA01529 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:49:57 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:49:57 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: nis problem To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Message-id: <199604291849.UAA01529@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to run one machine testwise under NIS. When I run my own FreeBSD nis server everything's ok. But when I ypbind -Sanotherdomain,anotherserver boot hangs at mountd and ^C'ing it hangs later at sendmail forever. Also I'm unable to log in in multiuser mode at the console (under root). Is there a way to verify (very early) that the ypbind is successful and if not, fall back to non-nis mode? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 12:49:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA06996 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06991 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id MAA29734 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id UAA09066 ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:42:30 +0100 (BST) To: "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Q: Troubles with /etc/aliases file In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:04:19 +0300." Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:42:29 +0100 Message-ID: <9064.830806949@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" wrote in message ID : > Hello ! > > When I put to the /etc/aliases the following line: > community: ":include:/home/ok/users_list" Lose the quotes. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:06:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA08221 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garlic.com (root@garlic.com [165.227.35.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08213 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tinker.safemail.com by garlic.com (8.7.5/4.03) id UAA17286; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:05:40 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:05:40 GMT Message-Id: <199604292005.UAA17286@garlic.com> From: "William O. Yates" To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Subject: Re: FreeBSD-2.1 boot failure after install = ("F1 . . . BSD" looping) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Pronto E-Mail [version 2.01] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >>>>> "William" == "William O Yates" writes: > > William> I do not NEED nor WANT any form of Boot-Manager, and > William> I read the docs, and thought this would not install > William> any... > > If you've got a copy of MS-DOS 6.2 handy, you can zap the boot > manager by running > > FDISK.EXE /MBR > > So long as the FreeBSD slice is the only bootable slice on the > disk, your system should just boot right up ... I hope. > > -- > Sean Kelly > NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov > Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ > > Well, thanks for the suggestion, but this "zap" only eliminates the "F1 . . . BSD" prompt. The disk now just goes into limbo (I waited 5 minutes). Booting from the install floppy, and answering the "boot: " prompt with "sd(0,a)/kernel" still works... Any other ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - William O. Yates __________ SafeMail, Inc. (Email/ISP) - - CEO/hacker at large / _ _ \ 3615 Jackson Oaks Court - - tinker@safemail.com | | | | | | Morgan Hill, CA U.S.A. 95037-6802 - - Tel: 408-778-5570 | |o| |o| | Fax: 408-778-5577 - --------------------||||----------||||---------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:19:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA08758 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mendota.terracom.net (mendota.terracom.net [205.213.64.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08753 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.213.64.30] (rightfield.bugsoft.com [205.213.64.30]) by mendota.terracom.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA00429 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:21:33 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: craigh@pop.terracom.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:18:59 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: craigh@bugsoft.com (Craig A. Heilman) Subject: Q: Install prob. w/ 1 IDE & 1 SCSI drive Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I finally jumped in and tried to install FreeBSD 2.1 on my system last night. The install seemed to go fine but now I can't boot DOS or FreeBSD except from a DOS or FreeBSD boot floppy (ie. the hard drives are somewhat "broken"). I'm not sure how much system info is needed so I will probably give more than is needed... System Information: Magitronic 486DX2-80 (GA-486VS motherboard) 16MB RAM Award Modular BIOS version V4.50G VI-711A VL-bus graphic card (Cirrus CL-GD5428 chip) PTI-255W VL-Bus Super I/O Card all default settings (ie. COM1=3F8h, COM2=2F8h, LPT1=378h, etc.) 520MB IDE hard drive (504MB formatted) 1.44MB 3.5" floppy (A:) 360k 5" floppy (B:) Adaptec AHA-1542CP SCSI controller base: 330h, IRQ: 11, DMA: 5, SCSI ID: 7, PnP: disabled, BIOS: enabled Conner 1.08 GB SCSI hard drive (CFP1080S) SCSI ID: 0 Plextor 4PlexPlus SCSI CD-ROM (PX-43CE) SCSI ID: 3, parity: ON, term: ON, test: OFF, block: OFF, eject: OFF SMC EtherCard Elite16C Ultra (8216C) (config. via EZSTART) base: 280h, IRQ: 5, RAM Window: D800-DBFF, ROM Window: none MS-DOS 6.22 installed on the IDE drive Using FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek. Release message says: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 18 10:21:19 1995 jkh@westhill.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS I'd include all the boot information but don't want to type it all. (1) Is there any way to capture the boot information to a file? I would like to maintain the IDE drive as a DOS/Windows drive and dedicate most of the SCSI drive to FreeBSD. (2) Would it be a "good idea" to keep a small (20MB?) DOS partition on the SCSI drive for storage of emergency utilities and the like? I created a FreeBSD boot floppy and proceeded through the "Novice" installation without too much trouble. I selected the SCSI drive (sd0) for installation. I had previously created and used a DOS partition on the SCSI drive so when I reached the "FDISK" part of the install it figured out the disk geometry on its own. I then deleted the old DOS partition and used the "All" option to let FreeBSD have the whole disk. I did select the "maintain compatibility" option in case I want to later add a DOS partition on the drive. I also checked the "install BootEasy" option (I think this was a mistake!). I then let sysinstall put "Everything" on the SCSI drive and it ran until the install was complete. When I rebooted after the install, I see the following in succession: - Award BIOS startup message (normal) - Adaptec BIOS loaded / SCSI devices found message (normal) - System Configuration screen (normal) - blank screen with "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT" in upper left hand corner (most definately NOT normal) I reboot with the FreeBSD boot floppy and type "sd(0,a)/kernel" and variations on that to try and boot off the SCSI drive. I get a message like "1049 > 1023 cylinders" (don't remember exact wording). Hmmm, I seem to remember that it can't boot if root partition is higher than 500MB limit of DOS BIOS. (3) I assumed that if I installed BootEasy on wd0, then I would initially boot off wd0 where BootEasy would take over, give me a choice of OS, then boot FreeBSD no matter where it lives! (ie. above the 500MB BIOS limit). Is this an incorrect assumption? Will BootEasy work for my situation and which drive should it go on? I reboot with a DOS floppy and check my C: drive - files are still there (whew!). I think that maybe I somehow waxed the MBR on my IDE drive. I try to run DOS's FDISK but it just dies with a "divide by 0" error. I even copy FDISK to the boot floppy but still get the same error. Why? I boot back into FreeBSD and go into the Partition editor (FDISK) for wd0. The DISK Geometry shown is 1057 cyls/16 heads/63 sectors which agrees with what my CMOS setup shows. I checkI then check the Disk Geometry for the SCSI drive (sd0). FreeBSD shows 1030 cyls/64 heads/32 sectors which appears just fine to me. I decide to try and create a bootable DOS partition on sd0 but find I can only create FreeBSD partitions. I reason that since the Adaptec BIOS is enabled, I should be able to boot DOS right off sd0. (4) If the Adaptec BIOS is enabled, will it boot DOS off the SCSI disk? I disable the Adaptec BIOS thinking that it might be causing problems. I try to reboot DOS off wd0 - no luck. I reboot the FreeBSD floppy and again check disk wd0 in FDISK. Offset Size End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 6 unused 0 63 1032129 1032191 wd0s1 2 fat 6 1032192 33264 1065455 - 6 unused 0 > Hmmmm - why doesn't FreeBSD show the wd0s1 partition with any Flags (ie. "=" for correctly aligned and "A" for the active bootable partition)? I'm too chicken to mess with the settings for this drive (don't want to lose it) so I just exit. I make a "fixit" floppy but quickly realize I don't know what I'm doing so I exit that as well. OK, enough babbling. The final question is "How do I fix my system so that I can boot into DOS or FreeBSD without trashing what's already on my wd0 drive". Thanks, Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Craig A. Heilman Bugaboo Software * * craigh@bugsoft.com Software Engineering & Consulting * * (608) 274-2003 http://www.bugsoft.com/ * -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:20:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09019 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09014 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA27475; Mon, 29 Apr 96 20:20:20 GMT Message-Id: <9604292020.AA27475@fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA114629219; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:20:19 -0600 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:20:19 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: dashadow@tchnet.tchnet.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from John Hart on Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:14:27 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Help... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "John" == John Hart writes: John> Anyone able to tell me what the John> permissions for /usr/sbin/pppd should be? chown root.bin /usr/sbin/pppd chmod 4555 /usr/sbin/pppd -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:21:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09093 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net (relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09087 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esh.vdolive.com by relay1.smtp.psi.net (8.6.12/SMI-5.4-PSI) id QAA27842; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:21:32 -0400 Received: from vdo.net (gberry@wilder.vdolive.com [206.233.3.10]) by esh.vdolive.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA13205 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:32:38 -0700 Received: (from gberry@localhost) by vdo.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA27139; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:24:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:24:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Berry To: questions@freebsd.org cc: Greg Berry Subject: 3C595 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I found on your web site a question about whether you support 3C595 cards. The answer was yes. I have another question: WHERE!? How do we implement it? Your FAQ does not include 3C595 cards in its list of compatible cards. Does the generic 2.1.0 kernel support them, or do I need to download something new and rebuild the kernel? Thanks, Greg Berry From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:23:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09202 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sos.state.il.us (sos.state.il.us [199.15.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09186 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccgate.sos.state.il.us (ccgate.sos.state.il.us [199.15.1.5]) by sos.state.il.us (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA13722 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:48:57 -0500 Received: from ccMail by ccgate.sos.state.il.us (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA830816928; Mon, 29 Apr 96 15:20:23 CST Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 15:20:23 CST From: "Terry Woods" Message-Id: <9603298308.AA830816928@ccgate.sos.state.il.us> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IBM Value point S3 Video Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am now trying to Bring up XFree86 on an IBM ValuePoint with S3 86C801/805 Chipset with an ATT20C490-80 ramdac. I have tried all the configurations and options suggested in the README.S3 docs. Each time I try to start X (xinit) I get a momentary band of color then a blank screen followed by a warm boot. Does anyone have this conifguration working? Thanx in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:24:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09316 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09310 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA19696; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:27:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:27:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Denis Malyavin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: <3183E4C3.3060@mol.net.my> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, Denis Malyavin wrote: > I have a Toshiba T3400 486 25Mhz 12M Ram 110M HDD (notebook) > > Do you think its worth to install FreeBSD on my system? It'll be tight, depending on what you put on. you need to have enough space either on there or on another FreeBSD machine to build a new kernel for. You _want_ to apply the Nomad PCMCIA patches. > I also have a PPP internet account. No problem there, if you have a supported modem. > If so...how do I get it of the net..... > Where can I get the WWW software and other stuff... You can ftp freebsd from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/. I'm not sure what you mean by the "www software". Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:25:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09429 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.intac.com (root@nile.intac.com [198.6.114.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09412 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:25:21 -0700 (PDT) From: rjb@intac.com Received: from [198.6.114.63] (palpk-s13.intac.com [198.6.114.63]) by mailhost.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA16896 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:34:42 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.ORG Subject: Porting if_vif.c to FreeBSD 2.0.5... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone had any experience porting John Ionnidis's vif (virtural interface) code to FreeBSD? I'm running an NCSA 1.5 web server under FBSD 2.0.5 and wish to create virtual hosts for individual domains. After downloading the vif.info code from NCSA's home page I successfully compiled a new kernel from the code in vif.info. I'm ready to try the new kernel, however, not sure how to use the ifconfig and route commands as per Mr. Ionnidis's examples. Since sysconfig handles the inet config and routing indirectly I'm thinking /etc/netstart might have to be edited. Here's a snippet from Mr. Ionnidis's overview: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Let's say your primary inferface's IP address is 198.3.2.1, and you also want it to respond to addresses 198.4.3.2 and 198.5.4.3 (note that these are three distinct class C addresses in three distinct class C nets). Here are the ifconfigs: ifconfig le0 198.3.2.1 up -trailers # config primary interface ifconfig vif0 198.4.3.2 up # config first virtual interface route delete net 198.4.3 198.4.3.2 # delete spurious route route add host 198.4.3.2 198.4.3.2 0 # add route for this i/f ifconfig vif0 198.5.4.3 up # config first virtual interface route delete net 198.5.4 198.5.4.3 # delete spurious route route add host 198.5.4.3 198.5.4.3 0 # add route for this i/f The route deletes are needed because the ifconfig creates a default route to the interface's network, which can cause problems; all that's needed is the (host) route to the interface's address. Now, get le0's ethernet address (say, 8:0:20:3:2:1), and add the following static ARP entries: arp -s 198.4.3.2 8:0:20:3:2:1 pub arp -s 198.5.4.3 8:0:20:3:2:1 pub This will cause any ARP requests for the VIF addresses to be replied with your machine's ethernet address." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Basically I need to know how to write the above into /etc/sysconfig or edit /etc/netstart. Any suggestions? Thanx From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:26:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09497 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09480 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA19709; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:28:26 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Garrett Wollman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help - FreeBSD as a router In-Reply-To: <9604291825.AA15086@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > It is our duty to warn you that, even when FreeBSD is configured in this > > way, it does not completely > > comply with the Internet standard requirements for routers; however, it > > comes close enough for ordinary > > usage. > > I am responsible for the original utterance of this sentence. I have > no idea if it is still true. I copied it from the FAQ. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:43:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11125 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlin.sedona.net (root@merlin.sedona.net [204.157.202.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11116 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.sedona.net (clapp@localhost.sedona.net [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.sedona.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24176 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:46:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199604291946.NAA24176@merlin.sedona.net> X-Authentication-Warning: merlin.sedona.net: Host clapp@localhost.sedona.net [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: tests From: "Andrew S. Clapp" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:46:45 -0600 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody know where to find a benchmark package like dhry? We are pitting solaris-x86 against freebsd! :-) Oughtta be a interesting race as sunsoft says that 2.5 is "supposed" to be competitive. -ASC Andrew S. Clapp Sedona Internet Systems Administrator andrew@sedona.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:45:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11482 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11467 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA19843; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:44:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: helio@compuland.com.br, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password in a directory In-Reply-To: <199604291327.PAA00813@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > > > user need to type to have access granted ? > > If you alias the cd command accordingly :-) Well, that's cheating. :-) I was thinking of more conventional means. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:45:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11515 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11500 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA19883; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:49:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:49:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Pierre Sarrazin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems installing 2.1.0-R In-Reply-To: <199604291536.LAA21766@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Pierre Sarrazin wrote: > But I solved my problem. I went into the holographic shell using Alt-F4, > I mounted the slave disk's 2.0.5 filesystem on /mnt and the master disk's > DOS partition on /dos. Then I copied the bin dist from the 2.0.5 fs to > the DOS partition (in C:\FREEBSD\BIN). After that, I selected "DOS partition" > in the Media menu and the rest went relatively well. Ah. The install wasn't meant to go through another UFS, although I faintly remember an option to install FROM an UFS. Oh well. > I thought that when I cleared the set of distributions to install, > it would avoid extracting the bin dist. I also thought that the > GENERIC kernel to be put on the hard disk was some sort of modified > copy of the boot floppy's kernel. > > I guess I thought too much. :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:47:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11753 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11745 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phantom (phantom.nvl.army.mil [140.183.5.99]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA29325 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:47:42 -0700 Received: by phantom (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uDznw-0002nYC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 16:44 EDT Message-Id: From: sjones@nvl.army.mil (Casey Jones) Subject: Installing from writable cdrom? To: install@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: sjones@nvl.army.mil X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I had a friend write the 2.1.0-release directory tree and packages to a cdrom for me, but am having trouble installing. It says it can't find any dists files? I was wondering if there were any other ways to specify where to install from or a suggestion on what to use for ufs? I've tried /dev/cd0/2.1.0-release, but it doesn't seem to want to look at the cdrom drive. Please send an email as I am trying to get this installed ASAP. Thanks, Casey sjones@nvl.army.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:48:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11964 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11792 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA19905; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:51:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:51:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Eric Berenguier cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with FTP install in Release 2.1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Eric Berenguier wrote: > Hello, > > I want to install FreeBSD Release 2.1.0 with the FTP install > option, but when the program try to access the ftp server, i get a > very nice dialog box saying: > > Couldn't open FTP connection to X.X.X.X > > where X.X.X.X is the IP address of the FTP server. > And i'm taken back to the main menu. > > I like very much when error messages are full of details saying what the > problem is :-) It's exactly what it means -- it couldn't connect to that ftp server. Did you config the ifconfig options appropriately for your location? Do > I've tried both the nearest FreeBSD Mirror(ftp.ibp.fr) , and a local machine > where i had copied the whole distribution. > > There are no hardware problem, because i had freebsd (2.0) on this computer > with the same configuration before. > > My hardware config is: 486DX2-66 ram 16Mb / 420Mb IDE HD / Two NE2000 > I would try hopping over to the holographic shell on ALT-F4 and try ftp'ing to the machine yourself. (yes, ftp, telnet, etc. are available there) That should give you some insight, if anything you can see the real error message. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 13:51:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12313 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12289 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA19931; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:54:42 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Tom Emerson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shmget() In-Reply-To: <3184FAAA.4EF5@asu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Tom Emerson wrote: > Are the system V ipc and shm (shared memory) system calls > working correctly? I was trying to use the shmget() system > call, and it core dumped -bad system call-. > > I tried the same call on a Solaris box, and it worked OK there. Did you compile the kernel with options SYSVSHM ? (If this is so, then I have no idea.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:00:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA13560 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13476 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA20011; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:03:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:03:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: mac@nibsc.ac.uk cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOC emulation and IBCS kernel options In-Reply-To: <199604291138.MAA06915@chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to clarify the Linux items only, since I've had to deal with it :) On Mon, 29 Apr 1996 mac@nibsc.ac.uk wrote: > P.S. Whislt you're at it can you do the same with LINUX, COMPAT_LINUX, > LINUX_COMPAT etc. in 1.5, 2.0.5. 2.1R -stable and -current. Ta. For 2.0.5 and 2.1-R, you must compile the kernel with: options LINUX_COMPAT options COMPAT_LINUX This is due to some screwups in bits of the kernel code that got the option wrong. I'm not sure this works with 2.0.5, I didn't run it long enough to know if this absolutely works or not. I think so though. You must also load the linux_mod LKM and install the shared libs from ports/emulators/linux_lib. >From what I understand, -current only requires "options LINUX". No LKM. That will get you a.out (and possibly ELF support, please check me on that). I have no idea on 1.x; I never ran it. I'm a post-2.0 user :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:10:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA14785 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phantom (phantom.nvl.army.mil [140.183.5.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14780 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by phantom (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uE0Bt-0002nYC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 17:09 EDT Message-Id: From: sjones@nvl.army.mil (Casey Jones) Subject: Installing from writable cdrom? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: sjones@nvl.army.mil X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I had a friend write the 2.1.0-release directory tree and packages to a cdrom for me, but am having trouble installing. It says it can't find any dists files? I was wondering if there were any other ways to specify where to install from or a suggestion on what to use for ufs? I've tried /dev/cd0/2.1.0-release, but it doesn't seem to want to look at the cdrom drive. Please send an email as I am trying to get this installed ASAP. Thanks, Casey sjones@nvl.army.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:20:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA15624 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15619 Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA05086; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:13:49 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292113.OAA05086@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Free(); To: brandon@tombstone.sunrem.com (Brandon Gillespie) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:13:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, valtech@caribnet.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Brandon Gillespie" at Apr 27, 96 04:09:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > > The problem is addressed in 2.2 which a new malloc/free (phkmalloc), > > but since Netscape is statically linked on BSDI's BSD/OS, we depend on > > them having a non-leaking malloc... (AFAIK) > > Does phkmalloc actually give memory back to the OS, i.e. can a process > which has a footprint of 7MB (both VM and actual) actually shrink in size? > I have heard conflicting answers as to if this is even possible with > unix.. Yes and no. Yes, it sbrk's the pages back to the system. No, this shouldn't really be a meaningful activity one way or the other, since unused intermediate pages should be discarded anyway, regardless of the sbrk setting, and not count against overall resource utilization. Using sbrk to stuff pages back it just one way of achieving the same goal. More likely, there are object persistance issues that result in fragmentation because of the way Netscape orderes requests and the fact that it isn't using per object type page pools (same goes for the X Server). Such a system would *require* the ability to anonymously discard intermediate pages so that they can be easily recovered. It would also require a malloc on the order of a slab allocator that operated on the basis of page pools, which in turn would require the application to tag each malloc by pool on the basis of expected persistance. Really, objects want seperate segments to implement true persistance algorithms. Other than OS/2, I don't know of any OS's that support protection ring2 (system space), as opposed to ring3 (user space) and ring 0 (kernel space). Maybe there's an X86 version of VMS I don't know about... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:26:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA15995 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15976 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MelRose.crew.de ([192.76.156.65]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id OAA01244 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by MelRose.Crew.DE with LocalMailer id m0uE0N0-0002HJC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 23:20 MESZ; (Smail3.1.28.1) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:20:33 +0200 (MESZ) From: Ulf Schmidt X-Sender: us@melrose.crew.de To: Question freeBSD Subject: support for new COMPAQ Deskpro XL models Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just checked the suported hardware list for freeBSD, and didn't find a hint for the build-in network-adapter and scsi-adapter which comes with the new COMPAQ Deskpro XL series. Can anyone tell if there is a change for me to install freeBSD on that platform? Thanx, Ulf -- --> Ulf Schmidt - us@pop.de - +49 177 2519203 --> Point of Presence - Wendenstr. 309 - D-20537 Hamburg --> office: phone +49 40 25192025, fax +49 40 258194 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:27:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA15996 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15983 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA05098; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:19:46 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292119.OAA05098@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Console Font To: sauri@islandia.is (Asgeir Halldorsson) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:19:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960427105848.006c2294@islandia.is> from "Asgeir Halldorsson" at Apr 27, 96 11:58:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi all > > I can get all the iclandic fonts to my screen but i can get all chars > that only use one key but i need to know how i can put in the keybord table > so i can use two key like "'" and "a" witch results in a specal icelandic > letter. You will need to make an Icelandic keyboard map. You should check out the existing keymap replacements and the /etc/sysconfig file: # Choose keyboard map from /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/* or NO if default. keymap=NO When you have created a keymap, you should submit it so that it will be in the next release, and you won't need to do it again after you upgrade. Sorry, but I don't have an Icelandic keyboard, so you'll have to do it yourself. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:35:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16707 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com ([206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16683 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA06385; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:35:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:35:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: procfs on a different disk.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have several systems running FreeBSD, one of which I just upgraded to 20MB ram (from 8). It has a virtually identical configuration to another system here, with the exception that the SCSI card it ended up with does not allow booting. Because of this I was forced to drop in the first IDE HD I could find. I set it up as the root disk and placed everything else on the SCSI disk (the SCSI disk is a quality disk, and is the exact same as on the other system). However, I had not completely considered what would occur. Despite the nearly exact configuration (same CPUs, mathco's cache setup--the only difference is the motherboards, one has 72pin simms the other 30pin--same ns on the ram), the machine with the IDE hard drive has horrible latencies and high CPU %'s in the stats. What I'm considering is that the root partition is used more than I suspected, and that the IDE disk in it is old (which it is), and the bottleneck is appearing there-slowing down all processes. Assuming this were the case what points on the root partition are high-disk usage? procfs? Would it be safe to create a /usr/proc and to change the fstab to use it, instead of /proc when next booting (this would put the procfs on the scsi disk)? Suggestions? Buy a new SCSI controller? Anybody want a cheap-new SCSI controller? ;) -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:36:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16910 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remote.transarc.com (remote.transarc.com [158.98.16.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16905 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by remote.transarc.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA00417; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:29:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:30:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Barron To: Jim Dennis Cc: Helio Coelho Junior , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password in a directory In-Reply-To: <199604291852.LAA00904@mistery.mcafee.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Jim Dennis wrote: > > > > > > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > > user need to type to have access granted ? > > > > thanks! > > HElio. > > I don't know of any way to do this using "standard" Unix > conventions. This is kinda grungy, but it has a similar effect: Let's suppose you have /usr/protected, which you want to put a "password" on. You "chmod 111" this directory, so that it's contents can't be read (except by root, of course). Then you create another directory within that directory, let's say you all it "secret"; it's name serves as the "password". Then you put the protected files into /usr/protected/secret. Nobody can get to those files without knowing the "secret" directory name (which they can't see because of the mode bits on the /usr/protected directory). This is a hack, but it mostly works. --Pat. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:41:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA17209 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17204 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA05136; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:30:24 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292130.OAA05136@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Password in a directory To: helio@compuland.com.br (Helio Coelho Junior) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:30:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199604280016.VAA01732@sv.compuland.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Junior" at Apr 27, 96 09:16:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > user need to type to have access granted ? No. Because: 1) Credentials are associated with processes; they are not seperate authentication instances (this is an error in the design of UNIX). 2) You can't associate another credential to indicate an "authenticated user" of a directory. There is one credential for a process. 3) You can't associate an authentication instance with a presence of a process "in" a hierarchy because of the concept of "current directory" (this is another error in the design of UNIX). 4) There is no way for the kernel to call back to the user to request an authentication at access time. You *could* set up a kludge based on an error followed by an ioctl() that swould have to be built into a library interface used by all code. It would be a pain to do, since every application would require changes. This is because UNIX does not support a "broadcast port" mechanism. Supporting such a mechanism would require (1) terminal dependence of all applications (that's how VMS does it), or an automaton per terminal type (not practical), or a callback/requester (assumes credentials are associated with a session manager and the user is running in a graphica environemnt (that's how UnixWare handles NetWare client authorization and why SMBFS is a bad idea on FreeBSD and Linux). If you have a specialized application, you could hack it, on the assumption that only someone running the application and using it to authenticate, or root, would ever access the directory. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:41:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA17265 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17259 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA05159; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:34:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292134.OAA05159@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Password in a directory To: jimd@mistery.mcafee.com (Jim Dennis) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:34:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: helio@compuland.com.br, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199604291852.LAA00904@mistery.mcafee.com> from "Jim Dennis" at Apr 29, 96 11:52:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > > user need to type to have access granted ? > > I don't know of any way to do this using "standard" Unix > conventions. > > You could create a special group -- with a password > and allow access using the newgrp(1) command (which > seems to be conspicuously missing from FreeBSD). This would work... the password field exists in the group file because of this. This would assume no default membership in the group. This wouldn't prompt for a password at "cd" opr "open" traversal time, however, so it would be rather kludgy in practice, unless you built it into your program (and then you could just SGID the program and impose a password on program use instead). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:49:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA17725 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17716 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA05181; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:42:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292142.OAA05181@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Strange httpd behavior.... To: matt@xanadu2.net (Matthew Z. Stout) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:42:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3183D510.8D1@xanadu2.net> from "Matthew Z. Stout" at Apr 28, 96 02:29:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > After running my web server for nearly 5 months without problems I dug > in and mounted a second hard drive. A few days after this httpd and > innd suddenly began exibiting delays of 2 or 3 minutes before filling > a request. in both cases, the connection establishes right away but > it waits before actually sending data. As I said, it has been running > without a hitch and I made no changes to any configuration files. > When I watch the connection with netstat it shows information in the > Queue waiting to go out but it doesn't actually send it right away as > it should. Can someone tell me why these two relatively unrelated > services would suddenly begin acting up in this manner. By the way, > all other services run great and at top speed, and I am running > FreeBSD 2.1. What kind of hard drives? What controller? If a second IDE, is it from the same manufacturer, and has it been jumpered as a "slave" for the first IDE? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:54:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA18068 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18057 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA05193; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:46:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292146.OAA05193@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Sound questions: ESS688 (SB Pro) To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:46:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Apr 29, 96 00:25:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I have an ESS688 sound chip, which is a SoundBlaster Pro compatible. Both > > "Dark Forces" and Linux find it to be a perfectly adaquate SoundBlaster, but > > I'm having a wee bit of trouble with FreeBSD. > > Oh, joy. AudioDrive. :) > > > The usual "LINT" line for SB looks like: > > > > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr > > > > But mine is on i/o 3, so I changed it to: > > What is i/o 3? That means nothing. IRQ 3, you mean? Or DMA 3? Or port > address 0x230? Please be more specific. He shows IRQ 7 and DRQ 3 on his config line: > > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 3 vector sbintr 8-). IRQ 7 is the "garbage" interrupt, where bad hardware sends interrupts to die (much as elephants seek out The Elephant's Graveyard). Put not hardware on IRQ 7, except printer ports, which like to live there by default and can work around getting random crap. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 14:57:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA18247 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18242 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA05212; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:50:04 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292150.OAA05212@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Using a Linix swap area for FreeBSD? To: Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com (Harlan Stenn) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:50:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20993.830767432@mumps.pfcs.com> from "Harlan Stenn" at Apr 29, 96 04:43:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a way (easy?) to have FreeBSD recognize and use a Linix swap > area as FreeBSD swap space? Use the raw device for the partition. It should work. man swapon Linux expects swap to be in a particular format. Like using the Windows 3.1 swap file, you will have to make Linux reset the swap area after reboot to make it usable again for Linux. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 15:10:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA18841 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18834 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05259; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:03:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292203.PAA05259@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: troubles with IBCS emulation To: amora@obelix.cica.es (Jesus A. Mora Marin) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:03:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604291247.OAA21154@obelix.cica.es> from "Jesus A. Mora Marin" at Apr 29, 96 02:47:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have got the shared libs `libc_s' and `libnsl_s' from SCO Unix 386 > 3.2.`something else' and copied them into a new directory `/shlib'. I tested > the new kernel with Korn Shell obtained from a more recent version of SCO Unix > and it ran smoothly. So I added a new ad-hoc account `informix' and installed > Informix 4.1 (Standard Engine, ISQL and RDS) on its home directory. But when > I try to execute any sentence inside the SQL I get an "engine terminated > unexpectedly" or something alike. On console, the following message arises: > "jammsys/kernel: pid : sqlexec: uid : exited on signal 10" > > ktracing the sqlexec process this dump results: > > sqlexec RET read 53/0x34 > CALL old.lstat(0xefbfdc2a, 0, 0x1, 0, 0) > RET old.lstat 0 > PSIG SIGBUS SIG_DFL > NAMI "sqlexec.core" > > The question is whether I have missed some crucial point or not. I am very > interested in this matter, so any suggestion, comment or hint will be > welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot. This indicates that the lstat system call is trying to copy out to a bad address in user space. This is to be expected, since lstat's arguments are: int lstat(const char *path, struct stat *sb) And Informix is apparently passing a '0' as the stat target. There are a couple of possibilities: 1) This is a cascade error, and whatever came up with the 0 is where the real error lives. 2) SCO has a "magic" lstat, and is using a NULL to say "don't copy crap out" and Informix is using this to make a call like "access(2)". 3) This is a genuine error in Informix, but since SCO maps page 0, a "copy out" to page zero doesn't fail, and Informix doesn't actually use the results of the lstat, (or does, without knowledge that it's dereferencing a NULL pointer to get the data). Case #1 requires you trace the origin of the NULL in the code. Case #2 can be handled by hacking the downcall interface in the IBCS2 module to call access if the stat buffer isn't there. Case #3 would require changing the page mapping, and is better served by reporting the rror to Informix so it can be fixed, instead. Generally, since lstat(0 is useed to read targets for symbolic links, dumping the string at 0xefbfdc2a when the error occurs to get the name of the file, and making it a real file instead of a link, may cause the lstat to not be called (ie: this could be #3, but it only shows up when you install Informix wierd). If it can be made to work under Linux, it can be made to work under BSD. > PS.: By the way, two additional questions of less interest: > 1) Is there any way to execute old Xenix-286 binaries? Current implementation > of IBCS doesn't seem to recognize them. I wonder whether the 286-emulator > included in SCO Unix 386 is of any value. It would if we could run Xenix 386 binaries. 8-). > 2) Can be supported emulation for IBCS and Linux on the same kernel? Yes. Just enable them. They don't use conflicting magic numbers (which would be theonly real problem). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 15:11:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA18929 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18924 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05268; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:04:45 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292204.PAA05268@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Smallest kernel ? To: zgabor@CoDe.hu (Gabor Zahemszky) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:04:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199604291208.MAA02545@CoDe.CoDe.hu> from "Gabor Zahemszky" at Apr 29, 96 12:08:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Strip the symbols. > > Once, I read that striping the kernel is not a good solution, > because some programs (who, ps, etc) cannot work after it. > Isn't it true for FreeBSD? They should use procfs instead of the kernel symbols and reading /dev/kmem. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 15:11:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA18970 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from defiant.vhm.com (defiant.vhm.com [206.109.100.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18959 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jln@localhost) by defiant.vhm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00257 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:08:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:08:43 -0500 From: Joe Nieten Message-Id: <199604292208.RAA00257@defiant.vhm.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ftp access (anonymous) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me where the anonymous ftp log is on FreeBSD 2.1? Thanks Joe From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 15:13:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA19119 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19108 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05283; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:05:55 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292205.PAA05283@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Smallest kernel ? To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:05:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: zgabor@CoDe.hu, terry@lambert.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604291630.SAA05654@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at Apr 29, 96 06:30:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > I was wondering, is there some option (apart from gzip) which can > > > > be turned on to produce a smaller kernel ? Especially for NFS, > > > > perhaps the 100KB are for both client & server, UDP and TCP code ? > > > > > > Strip the symbols. > > > > Once, I read that striping the kernel is not a good solution, > > because some programs (who, ps, etc) cannot work after it. > > Isn't it true for FreeBSD? > > Yes. BTW, stripping the kernel only saves disk space (precious on a > floppy, but not that precious on the NFS server), the symbols do not > occupy RAM. Gzip only saves disk, not RAM. I thought disk was the goal, not RAM. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 15:15:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA19211 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19201 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05294; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:07:48 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604292207.PAA05294@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Laptops and removable drives To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:07:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: david@fgate.flevel.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org, graham@flevel.co.uk In-Reply-To: <199604291531.BAA16492@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Apr 30, 96 01:01:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That really depends on your budget &c. The Toshiba Satellite Pro 410CS > is a pretty good buy, and the new Sharp PC9000 looks good too. Both of > these will set you back around $6K (australian) for a usable configuration. > > The biggest drawback with laptops is the displays - only the latest and > most expensive have 1027x768; you're looking at over $8K to put one on > the road. $8k US or $8k OZ? *WHO* has 1024x768 (besides the Tadpole SPARCBook)? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 16:01:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21115 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21105 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id IAA20831 (8.7.4/IDA-1.6); Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:59:58 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:59:55 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Helio Coelho Junior cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Password in a directory In-Reply-To: <199604280016.VAA01732@sv.compuland.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Helio Coelho Junior wrote: > > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > user need to type to have access granted ? > Not as such, you should read up about file and directory permissions, and the group file. It is possible to add users to certain groups, and then give only those groups permission to read, write, enter, or execute certain files and directories. It is also possible (even usual) to have a user belonging to more than one group. have fun ! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 16:42:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA23457 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexus.xanadu2.net (nexus.xanadu2.net [206.242.128.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23452 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by nexus.xanadu2.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01755; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:40:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:40:45 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199604292142.OAA05181@phaeton.artisoft.com> Reply-To: matt@nexus.xanadu2.net Organization: TimeNet From: Matthew Z Stout To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Strange httpd behavior.... Cc: "Matthew Z. Stout" , Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon Apr 29 19:42:38 1996 Terry Lambert wrote: >>> After running my web server for nearly 5 months without problems I dug >> in and mounted a second hard drive. A few days after this httpd and >> innd suddenly began exibiting delays of 2 or 3 minutes before filling >> a request. in both cases, the connection establishes right away but >> it waits before actually sending data. As I said, it has been running >> without a hitch and I made no changes to any configuration files. >> When I watch the connection with netstat it shows information in the >> Queue waiting to go out but it doesn't actually send it right away as >> it should. Can someone tell me why these two relatively unrelated >> services would suddenly begin acting up in this manner. By the way, >> all other services run great and at top speed, and I am running >> FreeBSD 2.1. > >What kind of hard drives? What controller? > >If a second IDE, is it from the same manufacturer, and has it been >jumpered as a "slave" for the first IDE? > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org >--- >Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present >or previous employers. Sorry, complete stats are 1 - Pentium 120 40meg ram Adaptec 2940w PCI SCSI Controller 2 - Digital DSP3210 2.2 gig SCSI-2s 1 4xCD-ROM, Sony SCSI Matthew ZS matt@xanadu2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 16:43:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA23490 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexus.xanadu2.net (nexus.xanadu2.net [206.242.128.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23447 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by nexus.xanadu2.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01750; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:40:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:40:10 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199604292142.OAA05181@phaeton.artisoft.com> Reply-To: matt@nexus.xanadu2.net Organization: TimeNet From: Matthew Z Stout To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Strange httpd behavior.... Cc: , "Matthew Z. Stout" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon Apr 29 19:42:38 1996 Terry Lambert wrote: >>> After running my web server for nearly 5 months without problems I dug >> in and mounted a second hard drive. A few days after this httpd and >> innd suddenly began exibiting delays of 2 or 3 minutes before filling >> a request. in both cases, the connection establishes right away but >> it waits before actually sending data. As I said, it has been running >> without a hitch and I made no changes to any configuration files. >> When I watch the connection with netstat it shows information in the >> Queue waiting to go out but it doesn't actually send it right away as >> it should. Can someone tell me why these two relatively unrelated >> services would suddenly begin acting up in this manner. By the way, >> all other services run great and at top speed, and I am running >> FreeBSD 2.1. > >What kind of hard drives? What controller? > >If a second IDE, is it from the same manufacturer, and has it been >jumpered as a "slave" for the first IDE? > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org >--- >Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present >or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 17:02:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA24559 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24554 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA17499; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:31:28 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604300001.JAA17499@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Laptops and removable drives To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:31:27 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, david@fgate.flevel.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org, graham@flevel.co.uk In-Reply-To: <199604292207.PAA05294@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Apr 29, 96 03:07:48 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > That really depends on your budget &c. The Toshiba Satellite Pro 410CS > > is a pretty good buy, and the new Sharp PC9000 looks good too. Both of > > these will set you back around $6K (australian) for a usable configuration. > > > > The biggest drawback with laptops is the displays - only the latest and > > most expensive have 1027x768; you're looking at over $8K to put one on > > the road. > > $8k US or $8k OZ? $8K Australian. Having quoted one price in AUS$, why would I change? > *WHO* has 1024x768 (besides the Tadpole SPARCBook)? The new Toshiba Tecra 7xx series, the Sharp PC9070 (think that's the right number), the old Tadpole Pentium system just to name three. Acme Portables have a luggable with a 10x7 display due in a month or two as well. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:01:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27457 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mugca.cc.monash.edu.au (root@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.208.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27452 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: YHCHA3@CFS01.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU Received: from cfs03.cc.monash.edu.au (cfs03.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.45.239]) by mugca.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA20869 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:00:23 +1000 Received: from CFS03/SpoolDir by cfs03.cc.monash.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 30 Apr 96 11:00:24 EST-10 Received: from SpoolDir by CFS03 (Mercury 1.21); 30 Apr 96 11:00:12 EST-10 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:00:04 AEST-10 Subject: ???? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <49546A175A7@cfs03.cc.monash.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will anyone tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list ??? ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** ************************************ YHCHA3@STUDENT.cc.monash.edu.au ********************************************************************** *** CHA CHA CHA ***************************************************** ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:26:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29076 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29070 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA01656; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:24:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:24:54 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199604300124.TAA01656@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: Denis Malyavin , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: References: <3183E4C3.3060@mol.net.my> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I have a Toshiba T3400 486 25Mhz 12M Ram 110M HDD (notebook) > > > > Do you think its worth to install FreeBSD on my system? > > It'll be tight, depending on what you put on. you need to have enough > space either on there or on another FreeBSD machine to build a new kernel > for. You _want_ to apply the Nomad PCMCIA patches. ^^^^^^ Hey, I take offense at that. The code in the Nomad's patches now exists almost completely in -current, plus there are lots of bug-fixes for the APM code in -current that doesn't exist in the Nomad patches. If people don't run the actual FreeBSD code we'll never get real working laptop support in a FreeBSD release. I emailed Hosokawa-san about this, and he agrees. The Nomad code will continue to be 'alpha' quality containing hacks and bad things that 'make things work', intended for proof of concept than actual implementations. However, the code in -current, while still containing some hacks, is trying to be a more 'usable' solution for laptops. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:28:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29320 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29312 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA24193; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:27:27 -0500 Message-Id: <9604300127.AA24193@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:27:27 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: questions@FreeBSD.org, terry@lambert.org Subject: Re: Laptops and removable drives Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > That really depends on your budget &c. The Toshiba Satellite Pro 410CS > > is a pretty good buy, and the new Sharp PC9000 looks good too. Both of > > these will set you back around $6K (australian) for a usable configuration. > > > > The biggest drawback with laptops is the displays - only the latest and > > most expensive have 1027x768; you're looking at over $8K to put one on > > the road. > >$8k US or $8k OZ? > > *WHO* has 1024x768 (besides the Tadpole SPARCBook)? > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org I saw that Toshiba did have 12.1" LCDs in both SVGA and XVGA with 1024x768. In the May 96 Computer Shopper, Notebooks section, you'll find reference to it. They also mention "and other vendors", but don't go so far as to say who (or is it whom?). I've also seen reference to the 1024x768 notebook displays in recent "PC Week" kind of publications. Don't know if they've actually hit the market yet, though. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:33:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29681 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29675 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uE4JN-000r3tC; Mon, 29 Apr 96 18:33 PDT Message-Id: To: Terry Lambert cc: Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com (Harlan Stenn), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using a Linix swap area for FreeBSD? References: <199604292150.OAA05212@phaeton.artisoft.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:50:03 -0700." <199604292150.OAA05212@phaeton.artisoft.com> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:33:02 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > Linux expects swap to be in a particular format. Like using > the Windows 3.1 swap file, you will have to make Linux reset > the swap area after reboot to make it usable again for Linux. I think I've done this before...I ended up with something along the lines of 1) Modify the Linux boot sequence to initialize the swap partition ('mkswap' command, if I remember correctly, or maybe it was a 'dd' of the first N bytes of the partition or some such). Then use 'swapon' to add it. 2) Modify the FreeBSD boot sequence to initialize the swap partition (put a disklabel down on it). Then use 'swapon' to add it. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:34:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29775 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aquinas.helios.nd.edu (aquinas.helios.nd.edu [129.74.219.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29770 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hyan@localhost) by aquinas.helios.nd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA07627; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:34:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Hong Yan (Karen)" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: install freebsd over Win95 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, there: I have some problems to install freebsd on my Pentium machine. The machine is now running Win95. When I want to install freebsd from SCSI-CDROM, after I run install, it tells me there is no enough memory. I need do it in MS-DOS mode. But if I quit windows, the system doesn't recognize the CD-ROM driver. My questions are: 1. I can't install freebsd with Win95 running? 2. What drivers shall I install in order to let MS-DOS know about the CD-ROM? I use NCR53C825 PCI-SCSI adapter. Thank you in advance for any kind of advice. --Karen From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:39:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA00339 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00326 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA29750; Tue, 30 Apr 96 01:39:04 GMT Message-Id: <9604300139.AA29750@fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA228338343; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:39:03 -0600 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:39:03 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: jln@defiant.vhm.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604292208.RAA00257@defiant.vhm.com> (message from Joe Nieten on Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:08:43 -0500) Subject: Re: ftp access (anonymous) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Joe" == Joe Nieten writes: Joe> Can anyone tell me where the anonymous ftp log is on FreeBSD Joe> 2.1? >From ``man ftpd'': /var/log/ftpd Log file for anonymous transfers. Be sure you have `-l' specified for ftpd in /etc/inetd.conf. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:43:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA00641 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00634 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA18051; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:13:35 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604300143.LAA18051@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: tests To: andrew@sedona.net (Andrew S. Clapp) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:13:34 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604291946.NAA24176@merlin.sedona.net> from "Andrew S. Clapp" at Apr 29, 96 01:46:45 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andrew S. Clapp stands accused of saying: > > Anybody know where to find a benchmark package like dhry? > We are pitting solaris-x86 against freebsd! :-) Oughtta > be a interesting race as sunsoft says that 2.5 is "supposed" > to be competitive. Why would an operating system significantly bias a CPU speed benchmark? If you're interested in OS speed, you want things like 'bytebench' and 'lmbench' and 'bonnie', all of which are in the FreeBSD ports collection. > Andrew S. Clapp Sedona Internet -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:43:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA00661 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00656 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA18042; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:12:20 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604300142.LAA18042@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Development (fwd) To: gemohler@alpha1.phoenix.net (Geoff Mohler) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:12:20 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Geoff Mohler" at Apr 29, 96 11:58:18 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Geoff Mohler stands accused of saying: > > > The AMD PCNet chips "net" is a LANCE ethernet chip. The current > > ethernet drivers work with this chip without modification, as long > > as you pick the right IRQ and port addresses. > > What do I need to do to get BSD to detect this chipset..it cant find it > by default. You'll need to boot with the '-v' option, and notice what address and IRQ the PCI probe detects the chip at, and then boot again with '-c' and configure the 'lnc' driver to match. > > The SCSI portion of this chip is an NCR 780(?) compatible chip... > > I remember reading a post on one of the lists about a driver being > > available for the SCSI portion, but I didn't save the thing. Most > > uncharacteristic of me. 8-(. > > Thats ok..we can swap the SCSI 1G drives for IDE..not a problem. As long as disk performance isn't an issue; I presume for routers it's not 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 18:53:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA01409 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01393 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA06089; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:45:51 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604300145.SAA06089@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Laptops and removable drives To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:45:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, david@fgate.flevel.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org, graham@flevel.co.uk In-Reply-To: <199604300001.JAA17499@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Apr 30, 96 09:31:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > That really depends on your budget &c. The Toshiba Satellite Pro 410CS > > > is a pretty good buy, and the new Sharp PC9000 looks good too. Both of > > > these will set you back around $6K (australian) for a usable configuration. > > > > > > The biggest drawback with laptops is the displays - only the latest and > > > most expensive have 1027x768; you're looking at over $8K to put one on > > > the road. > > > > $8k US or $8k OZ? > > $8K Australian. Having quoted one price in AUS$, why would I change? Because you did AUS$ to US$ conversions right before, so if you left your BC in the same monetary base, it would have been US$. 8-). US$ are more... given the exchange ratio, it means a US person can get 1024x768 for ~$6000 US. > > *WHO* has 1024x768 (besides the Tadpole SPARCBook)? > > The new Toshiba Tecra 7xx series, the Sharp PC9070 (think that's the > right number), the old Tadpole Pentium system just to name three. > Acme Portables have a luggable with a 10x7 display due in a month or > two as well. -- I went looking on the web, and couldn't find better than 800x600 on the Tecra -- admittedly, Toshiba's WWW page is broken. -- I couldn't find Sharp at all. I found some reviews about them putting out some bad products ("sharp computer" in a Yahoo search). -- It looks like Tadpole is no longer selling 1024x768? All they had listed was 800x600. I saw the luggables, but I doubt you could use them on a plane... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 19:07:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA02247 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02234 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA18141; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:36:53 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604300206.LAA18141@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Porting if_vif.c to FreeBSD 2.0.5... To: rjb@intac.com Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:36:53 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "rjb@intac.com" at Apr 29, 96 04:34:42 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk rjb@intac.com stands accused of saying: > > Has anyone had any experience porting John Ionnidis's vif (virtural interface) > code to FreeBSD? Why bother? FreeBSD allows you to alias an arbitrary number of addresses to an interface, so dummy interfaces are completely unnecessary. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 20:34:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA00389 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wdl1.wdl.loral.com (wdl1.wdl.loral.com [137.249.32.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00382 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.sso.loral.com (miles.wdl.loral.com) by wdl1.wdl.loral.com (5.x/WDL-2.4-1.0) id AA14985; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:33:40 -0700 Received: from dragon.sso.loral.com by miles.sso.loral.com (4.1/SSO-SUN-2.04) id AA05110; Mon, 29 Apr 96 23:32:14 EDT Message-Id: <318589B8.41C67EA6@miles.sso.loral.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:32:08 -0400 From: Rip Toren Rpt Organization: sso.loral.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ?? VLB SCSI and DX/4-133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oh SCSI Wizards.... I have been tearing out my hair (what little is left) trying to replace my DX/2-66 motherboard with a DX/4-133. The bios boot hanges when The first disk acces should be taking place. This is with a BusLogic BT445C SCSI controller. The only cmos setting that works is to disable the internal cache in the cpu (makes it a lot slower...). But there is a niggling thought that says I read something in hackers that indicated VLB controller got flakier as the cpu speed went up. ? > Has anyone used this controller at higher speeds?? ? > If not, and I have to replace the controller, what is known to work? ? > Is it time to bit the bullet and go to PCI? There seem to be a lot of campatibility issues with PCI, nicht var? Rip Toren rpt@miles.sso.loral.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 20:37:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA00564 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00555 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA28504; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:36:41 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199604300336.UAA28504@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Password in a directory To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604292130.OAA05136@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Apr 29, 96 02:30:24 pm" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > > user need to type to have access granted ? > Terry Lambert wrote: > No. Because: What about using CFS, like I do, to have encrypted and password protected directories? Brian Litzinger brian@Mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 20:43:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA00879 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00861 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (arnie.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.242.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA01869 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:56:39 -0700 Received: from state.systems.sa.gov.au by arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #13538) id <01I45GN8AM400073XS@arnie.systems.sa.gov.au>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:42:58 +1030 Received: from dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au) by state.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #13538) id <01I45GMXRL8G006QHQ@state.systems.sa.gov.au> for questions@freefall.freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:42:33 +0930 Received: from jolt.systems.sa.gov.au (jolt.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.237.8]) by dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12727 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:45:15 +0930 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:12:29 +0930 From: Garth Kidd Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM In-reply-to: owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org "questions-digest V1 #786" (Apr 28, 0:05) To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Message-id: <960430114617.ZM2871@jolt.systems.sa.gov.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <199604280705.AAA12808@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: trig@netlink.co.uk (Christiaan Keet) > Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:42:33 +0100 (BST) > > > when the 2.1 Release is booted using ATAPI enabled kernel on > > boot disk, my CD-ROM is not recongnized. It runs ok under DOS > > and OS/2. What may be done ? > > I've just run into the same problem. It's an IDE CDROM that doesnt go > through a Soundblaster but sits directly on the Primary or Secondary > IDE interface. Fine under Dos but not picked up when the kernel boots :( 2.1-RELEASE doesn't support tertiary or quaternary IDE ports. This won't help you, Christiaan, but might help whomever you were quoting. -- garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au | Garth Kidd +61-8-207-7740 (voice) | Network Services Branch +61-8-207-7860 (fax) | Southern Systems | Adelaide, AUSTRALIA From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 20:44:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA00983 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00965 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.ptd.net (root@ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA01773 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:36:13 -0700 Received: from calvin (cs1-12.hol.ptd.net [204.186.17.12]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18015 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31857BDE.1273@sw-expo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:33:02 -0400 From: matt payton X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installation of FreeBSD X-URL: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got the FreeBSD CDROM from WalnutCreek, and I can't get the installation going. After booting from the atapi.flp, and going through the disk partioning options, selecting cd as the installation media, I get a message saying "no cd found". I have a 6 speed mitsumi ide, connected directly to ide controller #2. How can I tell the kernel where it is ? Also, are there any plans to support the Colorado Jumbo 1400 tape drive ? Thanks for any help. Matt Payton From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 20:45:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA01151 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01134 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (itsdsv1.enc.edu [199.93.252.241]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA01693 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:21:06 -0700 Received: from dingo.enc.edu (dingo.enc.edu [199.93.252.229]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA06763 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:19:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:20:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Owens Reply-To: Charles Owens To: questions list FreeBSD Subject: Signal 11 problem: sh dies, user's can't log in!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Welp, I'm back, with the problem of the week :-) . Several times, lately, my box that serves as email host and web server has been getting itself into a state where when a user logs in, sh dies with a signal 11. Sessions that are open before this state sets in remain fine, and I can still log in as root and look around. Everything (swapspace, processes, etc.) seems fine, except for the signal 11 behavior. Sampe syslog output: Apr 29 16:38:41 itsdsv1 /kernel: pid 8739 (sh), uid 1154: exited on signal 11 The system can be up just fine for several days with no signs of trouble, and then, seemingly out of the blue, it happens. The only solution I've found thus far is to reboot. Not a happy thing for my users!! How should I proceed to track down the problem? Some background about the system: running FreeBSD 2.1-stable (supped 3/16/96) Using NIS (almost 500 users), quotas Apache 1.0.2, popper, imapd Pine 3.93 w/patches from Guy Helmer ASUS P55TP4XE P100, 64 MB 60ns RAM, 512k PB cache Thanks, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 20:45:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA01154 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01136 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA01660 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:16:34 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA18187; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:43:31 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604300213.LAA18187@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Laptops and removable drives To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:43:31 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, terry@lambert.org, david@fgate.flevel.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org, graham@flevel.co.uk In-Reply-To: <199604300145.SAA06089@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Apr 29, 96 06:45:51 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > > *WHO* has 1024x768 (besides the Tadpole SPARCBook)? > > > > The new Toshiba Tecra 7xx series, the Sharp PC9070 (think that's the > > right number), the old Tadpole Pentium system just to name three. > > Acme Portables have a luggable with a 10x7 display due in a month or > > two as well. > > -- I went looking on the web, and couldn't find better than 800x600 > on the Tecra -- admittedly, Toshiba's WWW page is broken. The Tecra 720CDT, 133MHz P5, 12.1" 1024x768 at 16bpp > -- I couldn't find Sharp at all. I found some reviews about them > putting out some bad products ("sharp computer" in a Yahoo search). I was wrong about the Sharp. The PC9070 is only 800x600; I think their droid may have been ranting at me at that point. Speaking of the Sharp, does anyone know about XFree86 and the Cirrus 7xxx PCI LCD chipsets? Toshiba are still using the C&T 65xxx parts. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 21:04:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA01839 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.os.com (venus.os.com [199.232.136.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA01831 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00802; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:07:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Craig Shrimpton To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: What causes an invalid page directory panic? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, My machine has been running fine for months until yesterday when it re-booted with the following message: /kernel: invalid page directory. What causes this and what is the prevention? Thanks, Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 21:34:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA03572 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guppy.pond.net (guppy.pond.net [205.240.25.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03563 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from crew@localhost) by guppy.pond.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA24064; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:34:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:34:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Paul Adelman To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I try to run X it an not find my microsoft mouse I have tried /dev/ttyd0 and pretty much everything else nothin'. Is there any help here? I even Tried MAKEDEV on ps/2 that got rid of the file not found but...then it wasn't configured right. anyhelp? -Steven P. Adelman crew@guppy.pond.net http://www.pond.net/~crew From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 21:40:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA04025 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vet.vet.purdue.edu [128.210.79.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA04018 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA17509 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:41:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199604300441.XAA17509@localhost> X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.vet.purdue.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.6 3/24/96 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Setting up a network at home Reply-To: blewis@vet.vet.purdue.edu From: Benjamin Lewis Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:41:41 -0500 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello- I've been running FreeBSD on my machine at home for quite a while. I have it connected to the internet through user PPP -> SLiRP, and I'm tremendously happy with it. I plan on purchasing another (more powerful) computer and installing FreeBSD on that too. Naturally, having two network-capable machines in the same house just begs for a little in-home net of my own. I've played around with this sort of thing using various friends' and family members' notebook computers and a serial connection, but I'm feeling a bit more ambitious now and would like to set up an ethernet connection between the computers. I've read various man pages, Handbook entries, FAQ's and even Linux How-To's, and that allowed me to do the kind of half-*ssed networking that I've done to this point. This time, I'd like to "Do It Right," but I just don't know *exactly everything* that is required. I've never worked with ethernet, so I'm pretty clueless in that area. This is kind of a "vanity" thing, so I thought I'd make it a little more complex than absolutely necessary in order to learn a bit more about this stuff. host1: Gateway PPP : 10.0.2.15 ether: 10.0.2.16 (I understand that I need a separate IP number for this, correct?) 486DX33, ISA, 16mb. Running 2.1.0-RELEASE host2: Workstation ether: 10.0.2.17 (will be) Pentium or Cyrix 133, PCI/ISA, 16 or 32mb. Will run whatever the latest SNAP is when I purchase it. host2 will occasionally run Win95 (ick!) since I'm tired of using TeX and troff for stupid stuff like letters. I thought I'd run a little name server on host1 so that Win95 will be able to use hostnames instead of IP numbers to refer to local hosts. Does Win95 have an equivalent to /etc/hosts that would eliminate this need? I'm interested in finding out what the various config files should look like, i.e. /etc/hosts, /etc/named/*, whatever else needs to be changed. The Handbook is pretty clear about /etc/printcap, so I think I can figure that one out (it probably won't need to be complicated since I'll just hook the printer up to host2 and I'm unlikely to want to print from host1). >From what I've read so far, it looks like 10 Base-2 cabling is the way to go for an el-cheapo net like this one. On a side note, does anyone have any recommendations for inexpensive ethernet cards to use in this application? Like I said earlier, I've sort-of done this before using a serial connection, but I think it worked more by accident than design. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. -Ben -- Benjamin Lewis (blewis@vet.vet.purdue.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 21:41:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA02670 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (arnie.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.242.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02665 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from state.systems.sa.gov.au by arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #13538) id <01I45GMRRBQO007LIM@arnie.systems.sa.gov.au>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:42:28 +1030 Received: from dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au) by state.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #13538) id <01I45GMBT0LC006X76@state.systems.sa.gov.au> for questions@freefall.freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:42:03 +0930 Received: from jolt.systems.sa.gov.au (jolt.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.237.8]) by dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12706 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:44:48 +0930 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:43:23 +0930 From: Garth Kidd Subject: Re: Net connected printer In-reply-to: owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org "questions-digest V1 #781" (Apr 26, 12:14) To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Message-id: <960430114551.ZM2871@jolt.systems.sa.gov.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <199604261914.MAA26120@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: "Gary Palmer" > Subject: > > Ron Steele wrote in message ID > : > >> OK, how about ftp? We have a LJ4 that you can print to by ftp. The >> new LJ5 does not seem to support this. Is there a way to enable it. > > That I have never seen. Anyone else care to comment? You can configure them with a combination of BOOTP and TFTP. Maybe he's thinking of that. -- garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au | Garth Kidd +61-8-207-7740 (voice) | Network Services Branch +61-8-207-7860 (fax) | Southern Systems | Adelaide, AUSTRALIA From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 22:18:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA06379 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06362 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snake.iwan.org (dyn1070a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.70]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id MAA12820; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:17:50 +0700 (WIB) Message-ID: <3185A170.680D@rad.net.id> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:13:20 +0700 From: Iwan Leonardus Organization: SKD X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: sandi@cs.uct.ac.za Subject: PS/2 mouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a motherboard Tritron which have a mouse port on board The mouse port can not be found by the FreeBSD kernel, but if I use Windows 95, the mouse is working fine. I have configured the kernel according to the handbook, which I did too at my other computer (HP vectra VE) and it working fine. Can you help me to locate the problem? Thanks and best regard Iwan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 22:25:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA07133 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guppy.pond.net (guppy.pond.net [205.240.25.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA07116 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from crew@localhost) by guppy.pond.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA25044; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:25:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:25:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Paul Adelman To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Incedentally, I am trying to configure my /dev/psm0 I have already redone my kernel and still am getting the dev not configured.....any help I will try to re make my kernel.....but. -Steven P. Adelman crew@guppy.pond.net http://www.pond.net/~crew From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 22:36:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA08152 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpm.com (vpm.com [205.162.123.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA08147 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by vpm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA04636 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:07:38 -0700 From: The Shadow Message-Id: <199604300507.WAA04636@vpm.com> Subject: Adding a new HD. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:07:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I've added a Seagate and ran fdisk & disklabel. Not remembering how to add a hard drive on the fly I'm not sure I did it right. But when I run newfs, it tells me the partition is unavailable. Where can I find some step x step instructions on adding a new drive. Everytime someone asks this on this list, there's never a response (to the list), so while I've seen others ask the same questions, I never see a response. So, can whoever responds send it through the list, otherwise I'll document the process and post it. I didn't find it on the the web site either. Maybe I just looked on the wrong place. Anyway, I need some assistance. Thanks, Mark -- ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Secured Web Hosting and Secured Discussion Groups Secured Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 22:42:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA08522 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA08516 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA25009; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:38:28 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA01048; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 03:17:29 -0400 (EDT) To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: Tom Emerson , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shmget() References: From: Robert Nicholson Date: 30 Apr 1996 03:17:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: Doug White's message of Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Lines: 28 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.79/XEmacs 19.13 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White writes: Just out of interest... Does the sharedactive patch work with INN under FreeBSD? > > On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Tom Emerson wrote: > > > Are the system V ipc and shm (shared memory) system calls > > working correctly? I was trying to use the shmget() system > > call, and it core dumped -bad system call-. > > > > I tried the same call on a Solaris box, and it worked OK there. > > Did you compile the kernel with > > options SYSVSHM > > ? > > (If this is so, then I have no idea.) > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 23:41:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA12256 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12251 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id AAA12804 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:56:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA26399 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:41:23 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199604300641.AAA26399@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: Porting if_vif.c to FreeBSD 2.0.5... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:41:22 -0600 (MDT) In-Reply-To: <199604300206.LAA18141@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Apr 30, 96 11:36:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Lo and behold, Michael Smith once said: > > rjb@intac.com stands accused of saying: > > > > Has anyone had any experience porting John Ionnidis's vif (virtural interface) > > code to FreeBSD? > > Why bother? FreeBSD allows you to alias an arbitrary number of addresses > to an interface, so dummy interfaces are completely unnecessary. On the stupid question front, I'm wondering if anyone's actually looked at the kind of degredation you get with packet response times on aliased interfaces? To wit: On a linux 1.2.13 with aliasing, the 130th alias takes ~3ms longer to ping on a local ethernet than the interface address itself. (4.5ms vs 1.5ms). I don't have enough aliases on the freebsd boxes to test this (and they're 'production' so I'm not in the mood to play with them. :), so I'm curious if someone's actually looked at it? -Dave Andersen -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 23:44:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA12474 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12467 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id HAA00343; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:15:14 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA20859; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:15:14 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA05502; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:06:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199604300506.HAA05502@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Question :) To: steve@server.gslink.com (Steve Schwartz) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:06:05 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Steve Schwartz at "Apr 29, 96 09:23:12 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Moved to -questions where it belongs. NB: i'm not on this list.) As Steve Schwartz wrote: > ok, great. When I get boot.flp image, and type 'rawerite boot.flp a:' it > writes to the disk for about 3 min..then when I boot up with it, my > computer just sits there, and does nothing. Umm, am I missing something? > I'm going to try and download it again. Are you sure you've been using ``type binary'' when ftping? Is your floppy 100 % error free? (Don't trust anyone, reformat, and have a look whether the DOS format program tells'ya something about bad sectors.) There's no sort of bad sector remapping on the boot floppy, all the first 2400 sectors must be ok (the remaining 480 sectors of a 3.5in floppy are unused). If the answers are `yes', where exactly does it sit? Do you see the ``Boot:'' prompt, parts of the ``twiddle'', what else? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 29 23:52:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA12963 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua (root@harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua [193.124.63.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12843 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from univers.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id JAA20983 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:36:03 +0300 Received: by univers.chernovtsy.ua; Tue, 30 Apr 96 09:31:24 +0000 Received: by nnk.univers.chernovtsy.ua (UUPC/@ v6.14, 01Mar95); id AA26109 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:15:19 +0300 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: Organization: Department of Computer Sciences From: "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 09:15:19 +0300 X-Mailer: BML [MS/DOS Beauty Mail v1.36h] Subject: Q: /etc/aliases troubles - advices didn't help! Lines: 15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello ! I removed the quotes, so there is something like this: community: :include:/home/ok/users_list and I got error message again! the only difference was in the quotes: 'mail.local: unknown name: :include:/home/ok/users_list' an idea ? May be the problem connected with configuration of Sendmail ? Thanks in advance, Oleg N.Kolesnikov From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 01:26:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA17909 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from comnet.spu.ac.th (comnet.spu.ac.th [202.44.68.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA17840 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by comnet.spu.ac.th (8.6.9/A/UX-3.00) id PAA11577; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:23:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:23:52 -0700 (PDT) From: amnuay muthitacharoen To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CLISP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am interested in CLISP which can run on FreeBSD PC-486 machine. I would be very thankful if anyone could tell me how to obtain it. Regards, Amnuay From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 01:31:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA18384 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atropos.c2.org (atropos.c2.org [140.174.185.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA18376 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:31:06 -0700 (PDT) From: sameer@c2.org Received: (from sameer@localhost) by atropos.c2.org (8.7.4/CSUA) id BAA20958; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199604300831.BAA20958@atropos.c2.org> Subject: Re: Porting if_vif.c to FreeBSD 2.0.5... To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604300641.AAA26399@terra.aros.net> from "Dave Andersen" at Apr 30, 96 00:41:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > To wit: On a linux 1.2.13 with aliasing, the 130th alias takes ~3ms > longer to ping on a local ethernet than the interface address itself. > (4.5ms vs 1.5ms). I don't have enough aliases on the freebsd boxes to > test this (and they're 'production' so I'm not in the mood to play with > them. :), so I'm curious if someone's actually looked at it? > 2.1-STABLE: To the normal #: 0.448/0.609/4.698 To the 54th alias: 0.480/0.562/2.188 -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-601-9777x3 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-601-9734 The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 http://www.c2.net/ (or login as "guest") sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 01:56:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA20271 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MelRose.crew.de (melrose.crew.de [192.76.156.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA20261 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by MelRose.Crew.DE with LocalMailer id m0uEBBm-0002IGC; Tue, 30 Apr 96 10:53 MESZ; (Smail3.1.28.1) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:53:42 +0200 (MESZ) From: Ulf Schmidt X-Sender: us@melrose.crew.de To: Question freeBSD Subject: change of keyboard mapping Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, while installing freeBSD I forgot to set the keyboard mapping to the German layout. Where do I find the documentation on how to change the keyboard mapping? Regards, Ulf -- --> Ulf Schmidt - us@pop.de - +49 177 2519203 --> Point of Presence - Wendenstr. 309 - D-20537 Hamburg --> office: phone +49 40 25192025, fax +49 40 258194 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:06:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA21079 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21064 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id CAA04331 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:06:13 -0700 Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uEBH6-000QYIC; Tue, 30 Apr 96 10:59 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA00433; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:56:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199604300856.KAA00433@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Differents between FreeBSD and NetBSD To: geis@apx08.physik.uni-frankfurt.de (Gunter Geis) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:56:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9604291104.AA20924@apx08.physik.uni-frankfurt.de> from "Gunter Geis" at Apr 29, 96 01:04:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gunter Geis writes: > > What I want to know is what is the different between > FreeBSD and NetBSD.Is there a big different or is it > only the name wich one is the better choice for Amiga > Computers or PC-Clones? Well, you don't have much choice with Amigas: FreeBSD doesn't run on them. As for PCs, *of course* FreeBSD is better :-) Seriously, the differences are small but could be significant. > If I want to built a small local net of Computers > would it be better to take NetBSD because there is > the netsupport build in or is it equal? Both systems have pretty much the same network support. The "Net" in "NetBSD" refers to the Internet, not networking support. I don't think there's much difference between the two, but others may know better. > Maybe you can give me some informations. Martin Cracauer has done a web page on the differences between FreeBSD and NetBSD. It's very much a personal viewpoint, and I don't agree with everything he says, but it might give you a feeling of what the differences are like. I believe it's at http://www.leo.org/pub/comp/os/bsd/cracauer/, but he was going to change it. I also believe that it is available both in English and German; this is the German version. You should be able to find the English version easily enough from this point of view. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:11:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA21512 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21506 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA22124; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:03:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Chang To: "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Q: /etc/aliases troubles - advices didn't help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Oleg N.Kolesnikov wrote: > > Hello ! > > I removed the quotes, so there is something like this: > community: :include:/home/ok/users_list > > and I got error message again! > the only difference was in the quotes: > 'mail.local: unknown name: :include:/home/ok/users_list' > > an idea ? > May be the problem connected with configuration of Sendmail ? Did you run newaliases after you updated /etc/aliases? Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:26:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA22584 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA22578 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA23053; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:25:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Chang To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: graphical characters? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi everyone, i have a question... like for example, if my prompts all turn into garbled graphical characters, how do i get my prompt back? i remember there was some key sequence that someone mentioned a few years back but i forgot how... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:36:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA23439 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA23434 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id CAA07696 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uEBk6-000QYJC; Tue, 30 Apr 96 11:29 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00605 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:28:59 +0200 Message-Id: <199604300928.LAA00605@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Smallest kernel ? To: zgabor@CoDe.hu (Gabor Zahemszky) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:28:32 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@allegro.lemis.de In-Reply-To: <199604291208.MAA02545@CoDe.CoDe.hu> from "Gabor Zahemszky" at Apr 29, 96 12:08:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gabor Zahemszky writes: > >> >>> Perhaps just for the fun of it, I was trying to figure out what could >>> be the smallest kernel I could get for a diskless system. >>> By removing most things I managed to a 544.319 bytes kernel >>> (some 70KB are symbols), although this has FFS and no WD/FD driver. >>> NFS instead of FFS requires 100KB more. >>> >>> I was wondering, is there some option (apart from gzip) which can >>> be turned on to produce a smaller kernel ? Especially for NFS, >>> perhaps the 100KB are for both client & server, UDP and TCP code ? >> >> Strip the symbols. > > Once, I read that striping the kernel is not a good solution, > because some programs (who, ps, etc) cannot work after it. > Isn't it true for FreeBSD? You shouldn't strip all the symbols, just the debug symbols. Use strip -d, not strip -x. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:43:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA23926 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA23921 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA06515; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:44:09 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199604300944.CAA06515@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: IP aliases and delays To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199604300641.AAA26399@terra.aros.net> from Dave Andersen at "Apr 30, 96 00:41:22 am" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dave Andersen wrote: > > Why bother? FreeBSD allows you to alias an arbitrary number of addresses > > to an interface, so dummy interfaces are completely unnecessary. > > On the stupid question front, I'm wondering if anyone's actually looked > at the kind of degredation you get with packet response times on aliased > interfaces? > > To wit: On a linux 1.2.13 with aliasing, the 130th alias takes ~3ms > longer to ping on a local ethernet than the interface address itself. > (4.5ms vs 1.5ms). I don't have enough aliases on the freebsd boxes to > test this (and they're 'production' so I'm not in the mood to play with > them. :), so I'm curious if someone's actually looked at it? ping True Ip: 1.592ms 157th alias: 2.556ms Machine is an P5-75 with DEC 21040 ethernet interface. Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:45:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA24061 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA24021 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA13728; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:44:47 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (KAA01979); Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:23:49 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199604301023.KAA01979@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: memory usage for a shell To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:23:49 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604291925.VAA05980@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at Apr 29, 96 09:25:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I am looking for a shell which is less memory-hungry than tcsh, > but possibly has some of its facilities such as line editing, history and > file-name completion. Any suggestion ? > > [To those who ask why: try running tcsh and enjoy its RSS > at or above 1MB while you run your "ls" or similar stuff!] Hi! 1) Use the /bin/sh (the ash), which has line-editing (enabled by set -o vi, or set -o emacs) and history mechanism. I don't know anything about file-name completion, it doesn't do that the others (ksh,pdksh,bash,tcsh) does. If you can find a newer doc, than is in the installation, maybe it says something (please, send it me, too!) 2) Use the pdksh from the ports collection, or get it from ftp.cs.mun.ca:/pub/pdksh with the patches, it knows all the things (set -o emacs/set -o vi) 3) Get the real (AT&T) ksh (12/28/93d). If you use 2.1R, get the Linux version, and the Linux-emu, if you use newer FBSD, maybe you can use the BSDI version, too (it's a BSDI 2.x file, so FBSD 2.1R cannot run it). It has all of the required functions, but you have to make some configuration (read the man, and look into the KEYBD trap! - or the Korn book). Or, if you have it, use an older (from 88) version, and read the manual about the emacs-mode, and the various _X, __Y aliases to use line-editing. 4) Use bash. It's not a real alternativa, 'cause it's very memory-hungry. Most of it can use your cursor keys in emacs mode (except ksh.att v93 without much configuration, and ksh.att v88 without some configuration) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:45:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA24087 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA24050 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA13731; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:44:49 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (KAA02015); Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:27:51 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199604301027.KAA02015@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: X and mouse To: crew@guppy.pond.net (Steven Paul Adelman) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:27:50 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steven Paul Adelman" at Apr 29, 96 09:34:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > When I try to run X it an not find my microsoft mouse I have tried > /dev/ttyd0 and pretty much everything else nothin'. Is there any help > here? I even Tried MAKEDEV on ps/2 that got rid of the file not found > but...then it wasn't configured right. anyhelp? First. slowly, and more precisely, please. Second. /dev/ttyd0 is for terminal, try /dev/cuaa0 for mouse (and of course, configure your X, to that port and to that mouse protocol, too!) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:50:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA24366 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA24360 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uEBk7-000QYLC; Tue, 30 Apr 96 11:29 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00559; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:18:25 +0200 Message-Id: <199604300918.LAA00559@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: sendmail To: dmyers@tiger1.thss.thornhill.on.ca (D. Myers) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:18:25 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3184410B.4839@tiger1.thss.thornhill.on.ca> from "D. Myers" at Apr 29, 96 00:09:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk D. Myers writes: > > I've just installed Free BSD v2.0.5 and everything seems to be working > great. I am having a problem with sendmail, we can send and receive > locally but outside the domain we can only send. > > Can anyone help me? This is really a sendmail question, of course, and 2.0.5 is really old now. You should check whether sendmail is running (you need a line like sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m" in /etc/sysconfig). The -bd tells it to listen on the SMTP port, which is probably your problem. The -q30m says "run through the send queue every 30 minutes and send anything you can". Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 02:52:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA24498 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA24493 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uEBk9-000QYOC; Tue, 30 Apr 96 11:29 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00454; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:06:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199604300906.LAA00454@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: install freebsd over Win95 To: hyan@aquinas.helios.nd.edu (Hong Yan) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:06:43 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Hong Yan" at Apr 29, 96 08:34:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hong Yan writes: > > Hi, there: > I have some problems to install freebsd on my Pentium machine. > The machine is now running Win95. When I want to install freebsd from > SCSI-CDROM, after I run install, it tells me there is no enough memory. I > need do it in MS-DOS mode. But if I quit windows, the system doesn't > recognize the CD-ROM driver. My questions are: > 1. I can't install freebsd with Win95 running? > 2. What drivers shall I install in order to let MS-DOS know about the > CD-ROM? I use NCR53C825 PCI-SCSI adapter. > Thank you in advance for any kind of advice. There's probably a way to do what you want, but it's probably also not worth it. Installation via Microsoft products is always going to have unexpected pitfalls. Installation via floppy should be straightforward in all cases. Do this: 1. Make a boot floppy. 2. Shut your Microsoft system down. 3. Boot from the floppy. 4. Follow the instructions. You may find it handy to print out the installation documentation. Walnut Creek also has a book "Installing and Running FreeBSD" which should help you further. ------------------------------------------------------------ Greg Lehey LEMIS grog@lemis.de Schellnhausen 2 Tel: +49-6637-919123 36325 Feldatal Fax: +49-6637-919122 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 04:21:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA29248 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kanto.cc.jyu.fi (root@kanto.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA29224 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kallio@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanto.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA27279; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:20:24 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:20:24 +0300 (EET DST) From: Seppo Kallio To: questions@freebsd.org cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ** Someone experience making Boot ROM for Ethernet card? ** Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are trying to make boot roms to SMC Elite. We have 27512 UV ROMS but SMC seems not to work with them, the ROM code is not visible at D800 as it should. It seems that 3c509 works. Is there some trick how to get SMC Elite to use the ROM? Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 04:23:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA29310 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA29305 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA15567; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:23:48 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (KAA02277); Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:49:10 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199604301049.KAA02277@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: freebsd-newsgroups To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:49:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! For financial reasons, it would be better, if I can read FreeBSD-related info's not from mail, but from a news-server. So the answer is: are there any FB-related newsgroups, and what are the correct names of them (I'm mainly interested in this group, questions) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 04:46:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA00631 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA00626 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.interpath.com (babbleon@mercury.interpath.com [199.72.1.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id EAA04903 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:45:51 -0700 Received: (from babbleon@localhost) by mercury.interpath.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA19101; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:44:25 -0400 From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Message-Id: <199604301144.HAA19101@mercury.interpath.com> Subject: Re: Sound questions: ESS688 (SB Pro) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions), dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, terry@lambert.org Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:44:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As per suggestions from both dwhite and terry, I reset the DRQ to 5 on the sound card, and after 5 minutes or so (I can't get over how fast it is to rebuild a FreeBSD kernel, at least with 16Meg and a 100Mz CPU) was able to verify that sound works just great now! Thanks for the assistance. -- Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 04:50:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA00947 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA00942 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0uEDwO-0003w2C; Tue, 30 Apr 96 04:50 PDT Received: from localhost.dk.tfs.com (localhost.dk.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA03420; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:49:50 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: critter.dk.tfs.com: Host localhost.dk.tfs.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Seppo Kallio cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ** Someone experience making Boot ROM for Ethernet card? ** In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:20:24 +0300." Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:49:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3418.830864990@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > We are trying to make boot roms to SMC Elite. We have 27512 UV ROMS but > SMC seems not to work with them, the ROM code is not visible at D800 as it > should. > > It seems that 3c509 works. Is there some trick how to get SMC Elite to use > the ROM? The eprom may be too big for the SMC, it may max out at 27128... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 05:46:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA04021 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 05:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA04012 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 05:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by teil.soft.net (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for questions@FreeBSD.ORG id AA24742; Tue, 30 Apr 96 18:16:16 -0800 From: rishim@teil.soft.net (Rishi Gautam) Message-Id: <9605010216.AA24742@teil.soft.net> Subject: Need help To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:16:15 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello This is Rishi from India. I want to work on the BSD networking protocols. Where from I will get the source code of TCP/IP, ICMP, SNMP agent and server and the related documents, for developing protocol drivers on BSD? looking forward for the information. Regards. Rishi From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 06:20:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA06059 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06054 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lkoeller@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA24536; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:20:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:20:00 +0200 From: Lars Koeller Message-Id: <199604301320.PAA24536@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM' dated: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:53:42 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! > Hi there, > while installing freeBSD I forgot to set the keyboard mapping to the > German layout. Where do I find the documentation on how to change the > keyboard mapping? Try man vidcontrol amd man kbdcontrol (/etc/rc.i386 is also a good location to learn something about console setup) kbdcontrol -m german.cp850.kbd Hope this helps Regards Lars -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Lars Köller Phone: +49 381/498-1665, Fax: -1667 Universität Rostock E-Mail: Fachbereich Physik Lars_Koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Universitätsplatz 3 Anonymous ftp: 18051 Rostock (Germany) ftp://odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de/pub From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 06:42:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA07435 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA07428 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id IAA27859; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:42:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:42:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199604301342.IAA27859@plains.nodak.edu> To: amnuay@comnet.spu.ac.th, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CLISP Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am interested in CLISP which can run on FreeBSD PC-486 machine. > I would be very thankful if anyone could tell me how to obtain it. from the CLisp Annocunce file: The newest versions will always be available via anonymous ftp from ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.115.2], directory /pub/lisp/clisp/. This directory is mirrored by the following FTP sites: Europe: rs104.hrz.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.47.112] /pub/programming/languages/lisp/clisp gwdu30.gwdg.de [134.76.98.230] /gnu2/clisp Australia: ftp.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.240.31] /pub/packages/clisp-mirror USA: ftp.stat.ucla.edu [128.97.4.153] /pub/lisp/clisp Other ftp sites carrying CLISP are gatekeeper.dec.com [16.1.0.2], directory pub/plan/lisp/clisp/, and ftp.cs.cmu.edu [128.2.206.173], directory user/ai/lang/lisp/impl/clisp/. I can't think of any special changes required to get it to compile under FreeBSD-2.1.0-RELEASE. --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 06:50:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA08084 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA08076 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:50:55 -0700 (PDT) From: garyj@frt.dec.com Received: from cssmuc.frt.dec.com by mail1.digital.com (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA22177; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:48:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by cssmuc.frt.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0232PM) id AA29765; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:48:01 +0200 Message-Id: <9604301348.AA29765@cssmuc.frt.dec.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: YHCHA3@CFS01.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU Cc: questions%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com In-Reply-To: Message from YHCHA3@CFS01.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU of Tue, 30 Apr 96 11:00:04 EST. Reply-To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Subject: Re: ???? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 15:48:01 +0200 X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk YHCHA3@CFS01.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU writes: > Will anyone tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list ??? > send mail to majordomo@freebsd.org with the following line in the body: unsubscribe freebsd-questions This is also in the FAQ. --- Gary Jennejohn (work) gjennejohn@frt.dec.com (home) Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de (play) gj@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 07:02:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA08985 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08978 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA18981; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:01:48 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (OAA04316); Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:26:32 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199604301426.OAA04316@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: graphical characters? To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Chang) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:26:29 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Chang" at Apr 30, 96 02:25:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > i have a question... like for example, if my prompts all turn > into garbled graphical characters, how do i get my prompt back? i ?? 1) If only your prompt went wrong, you have to type PS1='promptstring' in sh/ksh/bash set prompt='promptstring' in csh/tcsh 2) If everything is garbled, it means that somebody send to the terminal (or to the emulator) a Set Alternate character set sequence, so try: tput rmacs (ReMove Alternate Character Set), or tput op tput init tput reset reset tput sgr0 I think, one of these will work. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 07:57:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA12989 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teller.asd.banctec.com (banctec.clark.net [168.143.2.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA12982 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rjs@localhost) by teller.asd.banctec.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA14962; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:59:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Steele To: Garth Kidd cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Net connected printer In-Reply-To: <960430114551.ZM2871@jolt.systems.sa.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Garth Kidd wrote: > > From: "Gary Palmer" > > Subject: > > > > Ron Steele wrote in message ID > > : > > > >> OK, how about ftp? We have a LJ4 that you can print to by ftp. The > >> new LJ5 does not seem to support this. Is there a way to enable it. > > > > That I have never seen. Anyone else care to comment? > > You can configure them with a combination of BOOTP and TFTP. Maybe he's > thinking of that. > Not a chance. I am guessing this is a non-HP network card in the LJ4. You just ftp to it, using anything for the userid, no password is reqested, and put your file. Out comes the paper. It's really nice when you are printing from a PC and don't want to deal with the Novell server. Ron From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 08:09:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA13785 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fssun09.dev.oclc.org (fssun09.dev.oclc.org [132.174.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA13778 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilko@oclc.org (pc40-203.dev.oclc.org) by fssun09.dev.oclc.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16617; Tue, 30 Apr 96 11:08:43 EDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: ilko@oclc.org Organization: Online Computer Library Center Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:22:53 From: "Jon T. Ilko" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fix for missing _iso_ntoa? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently updated to 2.1-stable and did a make world that ended with: usr.bin/dig cc -O -I/usr/src/usr.bin/dig/../../usr.sbin/nslookup -o dig dig.o debug.o lis t.o send.o subr.o debug.o: Undefined symbol `_iso_ntoa' referenced from text segment list.o: Undefined symbol `_iso_ntoa' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 I checked the archive and found out that _iso_ntoa no longer exists in stable but was unable to find out how to fix this problem. Could someone fill me in on how to fix this or point me in the right direction. Thanks ---------------------------------- Online Computer Library Center E-Mail: Jon T. Ilko From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 08:10:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA13889 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stormbringer.netural.com (root@stormbringer.NETural.com [206.54.248.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13884 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from thekind@localhost) by stormbringer.netural.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15003; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:10:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:10:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam W. Dace" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SMC Elite Ultra 16 Combo breaks if_ether.c? Help!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1621553163-830877005=:14974" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1621553163-830877005=:14974 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings all. I hate to bother the list with this, but I've been banging my head against this problem too long now. I recently got a power supply for my notebook so I finally got around to setting up my little point-to-point BNC LAN. Anyways, under Win95 the card works just fine (scary, but true). I'm trying to setup my desktop as a gateway ala ppp0, but that doesn't seem to be causing problems. Here's my weirdness: 1) If I ping the broadcast address for ed0, 206.54.248.255, my notebook (in win95) responds just fine. 2) When I try to ping the notebook's IP the kernel freaks out a bit, never makes it through the ARP process and gives up trying to get through. Apr 30 10:02:26 wintermute /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo Apr 30 10:02:52 wintermute last message repeated 10 times Apr 30 10:03:38 wintermute last message repeated 5 times Apr 30 10:04:07 wintermute /kernel: arplookup 206.54.248.7 failed: host is not on local network Apr 30 10:04:07 wintermute /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo Lather, rinse, repeat. ;) I've tried a number of things, including changing the i/o and memory address on the card, among other things. Nothing to seems to help at all. I'm attaching a copy of my kernel config file, perhaps someone can help me out on this one. Hrm...I just changed hostnames on the machine I'm having problems with...would a config file named GLIDE matter on a machine with hostname wintermute.ai.turing.com? I'd think not, but one never knows. Please cc: any replies to thekind@netural.com as I don't get around to reading this list a whole lot. Thanks for your time, | Adam W. 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Bresler" Message-Id: <199604301616.JAA18364@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: tests To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: andrew@sedona.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604300143.LAA18051@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Apr 30, 96 11:13:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith wrote: > > Andrew S. Clapp stands accused of saying: > > > > Anybody know where to find a benchmark package like dhry? > > We are pitting solaris-x86 against freebsd! :-) Oughtta > > be a interesting race as sunsoft says that 2.5 is "supposed" > > to be competitive. > > Why would an operating system significantly bias a CPU speed benchmark? most CPU benchmarks are not CPU benchmarks--they are CPU and memory subsystem benchmarks. the OS affects the benchmarks access to memory. a benchmark tha shows this beautiully is Hint from ameslab. the same taks is run repeatedly, each time with a larger set size. the results are a graph of speed vs memory footprint. most machines showhte size of on-chip cache, L2 cahce, memory size as steps in the graph. each step lower than the previous one as the problem size access slower and slower resources. http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/scl/HINT/HINT.html jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 09:35:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19858 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19847 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id JAA13522; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA07128; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:18:19 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199604301618.SAA07128@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ** Someone experience making Boot ROM for Ethernet card? ** To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:18:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: kallio@cc.jyu.fi, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3418.830864990@critter.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Apr 30, 96 11:49:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > We are trying to make boot roms to SMC Elite. We have 27512 UV ROMS but > > SMC seems not to work with them, the ROM code is not visible at D800 as it > > should. > > > > It seems that 3c509 works. Is there some trick how to get SMC Elite to use > > the ROM? > > The eprom may be too big for the SMC, it may max out at 27128... I have been using the Elite with 27256 ROMs for a long time. I believe this is the maximum size for the Elite. Luigi From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 09:36:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20026 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from upsmot03.msn.com (upsmot03.msn.com [204.95.110.85]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20021 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from upmajb04.msn.com ([204.95.110.81]) by upsmot03.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id JAA27286 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:29:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 16:32:49 UT From: "Rich Casto" Message-Id: To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Netscape on FreeBSD 2.1 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear BSD Gurus, I downloaded the netscape 2.01 (netscape201.export_i386_unknown_bsd.tar.gz) from the ftp20.netscape.com site. On trying to run netscape on FreeBSD, it would not execute. Looked thru the FreeBSD FAQ and saw some questions mentioning about ports, etc. As I am a first timer to FreeBSD, I am not aware of what I have to do to install netscape on my system. Could someone please tell me the procedure to run netscape under FreeBSD. Please send your replies to sbhaskar@ix.netcom.com. Thank you folks in advance. Bhaskar From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 09:39:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20287 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pub (pub.apg.com [204.191.66.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20277 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sr0 (relay.apg.com [205.206.125.254]) by pub (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA26654 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:38:55 -0400 Received: from internet.mtl.apg.com (gw-int-as7.mtl.apg.com [205.206.125.90]) by sr0 (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA02779 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:45:55 -0400 Message-ID: <31864201.6FAD@apg.com> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:38:25 -0400 From: ClaudeCharbonneau Organization: APG X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: POP server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I am trying to install the POP3 deamon on Freebsd 2.1 and can't find any help file on this subject. Would you please advise how I can install POP3, thanks. Sincerely, Moe Kabbara MoeKabbara@apg.com (613)798-2190 Fax (613)798-2196 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 10:32:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23015 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23008 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id KAA14971 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uEJEY-000QXzC; Tue, 30 Apr 96 19:29 MET DST Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:04:17 +0200 From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA01740 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:04:17 +0200 Message-Id: <199604301704.TAA01740@allegro.lemis.de> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 30 April 1996. This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"**). In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. I'm taking the viewpoint of the newcomer here: we have other ways of handling arrogant hackers :-) When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, please remember: 1. Nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message, so please specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Can't get this to work" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, most people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Please try to format your message so that it is legible. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. 4. Please don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 5. Please specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 6. If you don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. For example, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for this activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 11:24:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA25473 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25468 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA22862; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:24:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:24:50 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9604301824.AA22862@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: ilko@oclc.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fix for missing _iso_ntoa? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > I checked the archive and found out that _iso_ntoa no longer > exists in stable but was unable to find out how to > fix this problem. Ummm, it no longer exists in -current. It is supposed to exist in -stable. Perhaps you have spammed your -stable C library with a -current one. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 12:18:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA28844 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28838 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id UAA11157 ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:16:08 +0100 (BST) To: "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Q: /etc/aliases troubles - advices didn't help! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:15:19 +0300." Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:16:08 +0100 Message-ID: <11155.830891768@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" wrote in message ID : > I removed the quotes, so there is something like this: > community: :include:/home/ok/users_list > and I got error message again! > the only difference was in the quotes: > 'mail.local: unknown name: :include:/home/ok/users_list' Never seen this before. It doesn't seem to be recognising the :include: command. Perhaps try something from our /etc/aliases file on freefall: cvs-committers-outgoing: :include: /home/mail/cvs-committers ^ note this space ^^^^^^^^ probably doesn't make any difference, but try a tab in there Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 12:37:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00466 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00461 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA02276; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:40:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Steven Paul Adelman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Steven Paul Adelman wrote: > Incedentally, I am trying to configure my /dev/psm0 I have already > redone my kernel and still am getting the dev not configured.....any help > I will try to re make my kernel.....but. There is a bug in the ps/2 mouse driver that will cause it not to probe properly. Check the FAQ for details -- it tells you how to fix it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 12:43:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00823 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00807 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA17392 ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:43:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Hsu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to rebuild FreeBSD 2.1 kernel with gdb informations (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:11:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Minh Tonthat To: support@cdrom.com Subject: How to rebuild FreeBSD 2.1 kernel with gdb informations I installed FreeBSD 2.1 on my pc and I followed the book to rebuild the kernel. I used DDB KTRACE DIAGNOSTIC option. However, gdb could not find any symbol. The command that I used was gdb -k kernel /dev/mem. Could you tell me what flags I have to use? Minh. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 12:43:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00874 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com ([206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00851 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA08580; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:43:44 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:43:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ram w/o parity.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am in grey area here, in my own experience, so I am dropping back to the pool of knowledge on this list. I am building a FreeBSD internet box and I have some decisions. If a motherboard can handle RAM w/o parity, should one just get sims without parity? Is there any OS level impact or possible problem? I'm running FreeBSD on a dell PC for my work station, and it is running without parity. However, we have had problems running unixware on a PC w/o parity (we are actually a mac reseller, which is why we have so much ram w/o parity :) -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 12:45:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA01184 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kera.nternet.com (kera.nternet.com [205.219.12.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01174 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lion.wild.net ([206.28.26.55]) by kera.nternet.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-12613) with SMTP id AAA216 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:42:43 -0700 Message-ID: <31867BA4.5804@yiff.stu.rpi.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:44:20 -0500 From: Geoff Sloan Organization: Wild Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Intel EtherExpress X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Heya! I just purchased Walnut Creek's FreeBSD 2.1 Distribution, and am having some problems with installation. My kernel panics and reboots the system whenever it tries to do anything remotely related to ix0 (My Intel EtherExpress-16 card) It panics on the installation. My system is as follows: Pentium 166, 256k cache, Triton chipset motherboard 32 megs EDO RAM 2 Western Digital Caviar 1.62 Gig EIDE drives Intel EtherExpress 16 6x's EIDE drive Matrox Millenium 4 meg WRAM Adaptec SCSI adaptor with internal Iomega ZIP. (Zip Zoom interface) I'm installing FreeBSD on the second "partition" of my second disk. My 1st drive is solely DOS, and the second is half DOS half FreeBSD. Any help/fixes you can give me for this problem, I'd greatly appreciate. Regards, Geoff Sloan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 12:46:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA01241 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01232 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA02295; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:47:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:47:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: The Shadow cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a new HD. In-Reply-To: <199604300507.WAA04636@vpm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, The Shadow wrote: > I've added a Seagate and ran fdisk & disklabel. Not remembering how > to add a hard drive on the fly I'm not sure I did it right. This information was posted to -questions the other day. >From jraynard@dial.pipex.comTue Apr 30 12:44:56 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 02:20:45 GMT From: James Raynard To: matt@xanadu2.net Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need Help!!! >>>>> "Matthew Z. Stout" writes: > > I have sent several pieces of e-mail in the past few days, and am in > desperate need of a reply. I need to know the exact procedure for > preparing a new hard drive for use in a FreeBSD 2.1 machine. I have a > 2.2 gig SCSI-2 hard drive, and have been struggling with fdisk and > newfs for a week now. I simply need someone to outline the proper > steps for use of fdisk, newfs and mount in the installation of this > hard drive. There's a posting I saved from Usenet last month at the end of this message. Another alternative is to run the installation program (it's /stand/sysinstall), use the partition and fdisk editors to set up the new disk and use the 'w' option to write them to the disk. Make sure you quit before it starts actually installing anything, though! If you're worried about damaging your existing disk, you could remove/disconnect it, boot off an installation floppy and setup the new disk in the same way. (Disclaimer - I don't have a second disk, I haven't tried any of these procedures myself and I don't know if any of them actually work. Make sure you have everything backed up before you start) From: Ron Bolin Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Howto Add a 2nd SCSI Disk, example Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:05:55 -0500 Organization: Federated Systems Group Lines: 32 Message-ID: <315A80A3.41C67EA6@mindspring.com> Just for documentation purposes, I figured out how to add a second SCSI disk (with Sean Fagan's tip). Here is the basics with an example of adding sd2 (on my system sd0 is for NT, sd1 is freebsd, sd2 is the 2nd freebsd disk I want to add): 1. Figure out your disk parameters and make an entry in /etc/disktab. For me it was a st12400n. 2. Zero out the boot block of the new disk with: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd2 bs=1k count=1 3. fdisk -u /dev/rsd2, and update necessary info in the partition you wish to use. I used partion 3 (aka /dev/sd2c). 4. disklabel -rw /dev/sd2 st12400n. 5. newfs -T st12400n /dev/rsd2c. 6. run fsck /dev/rsd2c. 7. mount disk on a valid mount point. 8. add entry to /etc/fstab for automount. Hope this helps anyone that needs to add a second SCSI disk. -Ron Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 13:00:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02436 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hollywood.cinenet.net (wraith@hollywood.cinenet.net [198.147.76.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02426 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hollywood.cinenet.net (8.7.3/25-eef) id MAA02144; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Gorichanaz Message-Id: <199604301959.MAA02144@hollywood.cinenet.net> Subject: Currently supported Serial Boards? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:59:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quickly - Which multi-port serial cards are supported under the current release(s)? Any vendors/prices spring to mind? tanks! -=bob=- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 13:07:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02785 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02780 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA17779 ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:07:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Hsu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to steps through FreeBSD 2.1 booting process using ddb (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Minh Tonthat To: support@cdrom.com Subject: How to steps through FreeBSD 2.1 booting process using ddb I finally was able to rebuild FreeBSD 2.1 kernel with gdb debugging information. Could you tell me how I can use gdb to trace throught the booting sequence of FreeBSD? If I would like to use gdb to learn about FeeBSD kernel, do you know any books or papers that talk about it? Minh. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 13:09:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02918 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02906 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07621; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:02:30 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604302002.NAA07621@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Password in a directory To: brian@MediaCity.com Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:02:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604300336.UAA28504@MediaCity.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at Apr 29, 96 08:36:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Is it possible to put a password in a directory, so the > > > user need to type to have access granted ? > > > Terry Lambert wrote: > > No. Because: > > What about using CFS, like I do, to have encrypted and password > protected directories? That's fine. How does the kernel ask "Bob the PPP user" to provide credentials on access attempts? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 13:10:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03007 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com ([206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02966 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA08651; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:09:50 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:09:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: Gary Palmer cc: "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Q: /etc/aliases troubles - advices didn't help! In-Reply-To: <11155.830891768@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" wrote: > > I removed the quotes, so there is something like this: > > community: :include:/home/ok/users_list > > > and I got error message again! > > the only difference was in the quotes: > > 'mail.local: unknown name: :include:/home/ok/users_list' > > Never seen this before. It doesn't seem to be recognising the > :include: command. Perhaps try something from our /etc/aliases file on > freefall: > > cvs-committers-outgoing: :include: /home/mail/cvs-committers > > ^ note this space > > ^^^^^^^^ probably doesn't make any difference, > but try a tab in there I have many lists, all without spaces, infact they simply have a single space between the name: and the :include, ala: sunmail-outbound: :include:/usr/local/mail/lists/sunmail dept-prod-outbound: :include:/usr/local/mail/lists/dept-prod dept-is-outbound: :include:/usr/local/mail/lists/dept-is (to show a few) Make sure '/home/ok/users_list' is readable by whatever sendmail runs under on your system. -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 13:14:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03264 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03257 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07636; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:07:32 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604302007.NAA07636@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Need help To: rishim@teil.soft.net (Rishi Gautam) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:07:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9605010216.AA24742@teil.soft.net> from "Rishi Gautam" at Apr 30, 96 06:16:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is Rishi from India. I want to work on the BSD networking protocols. > Where from I will get the source code of TCP/IP, ICMP, SNMP agent and server > and the related documents, for developing protocol drivers on BSD? The code can be downloaded from the FTP site (ftp.freebsd.org). There are so many related documents that they can't be exhaustively listed. You should do a web search (ie: at www.yahoo.com). Note that some of the documents (like the NFS ones) are only purchasable from standards bodies, since that is how the standards bodies make their money. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 13:24:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03918 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03906 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:24:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199604302024.NAA03906@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Q: /etc/aliases troubles - advices didn't help! To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: oleg@nnk.univers.chernovtsy.ua, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, test@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <11155.830891768@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Apr 30, 96 08:16:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer wrote: > > "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" wrote in message ID > : > > I removed the quotes, so there is something like this: > > community: :include:/home/ok/users_list > > > and I got error message again! > > the only difference was in the quotes: > > 'mail.local: unknown name: :include:/home/ok/users_list' > > Never seen this before. It doesn't seem to be recognising the > :include: command. Perhaps try something from our /etc/aliases file on > freefall: > > cvs-committers-outgoing: :include: /home/mail/cvs-committers > > ^ note this space > > ^^^^^^^^ probably doesn't make any difference, > but try a tab in there you know, i wondered about that too. but we have both with and without the whitespace. could this be a sendmail version issue? cvs-committers-outgoing: :include: /home/mail/cvs-committers test-outgoing: :include:/home/mail/lists/test, test-digest-outgoing: :include:/home/mail/lists/test-digest that is a space in there, just verified that. we are running Sendmail 8.7.3/8.7.3 jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 13:34:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA04762 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04736 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07719; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:27:35 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604302027.NAA07719@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Fix for missing _iso_ntoa? To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:27:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: ilko@oclc.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9604301824.AA22862@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett Wollman" at Apr 30, 96 02:24:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I checked the archive and found out that _iso_ntoa no longer > > exists in stable but was unable to find out how to > > fix this problem. > > Ummm, it no longer exists in -current. It is supposed to exist in > -stable. Perhaps you have spammed your -stable C library with a > -current one. Garrett: what would it take to unify the address manipulation model to a set of common routines? INET has: int inet_aton(char *cp, struct in_addr *pin) unsigned long inet_addr(char *cp) unsigned long inet_network(char *cp) char * inet_ntoa(struct in_addr in) struct in_addr inet_makeaddr(int net, int lna) unsigned long inet_lnaof(struct in_addr in) unsigned long inet_netof(struct in_addr in) and ISO has struct iso_addr * iso_addr(const char *addr) char * iso_ntoa(struct iso_addr *isoa) And XNS has struct ns_addr ns_addr(const char *name) char * ns_ntoa(struct ns_addr addr) And IPX has ... Any chance of evovling a common API model that takes an AF_XXX argument and wrappers the rest of it? I'd be happy to work on the libc dlopen() routines, but you're the networkign guru. Backward compatability could be handled by: static inline char * inet_ntoa( struct in_addr in) { return( xxx_ntoa( AF_INET, (caddr_t)in)); } ...etc. in the header files for the protocol family. Internally, there would be a family cache, which would reflect the contents of a file (in /var/config/networks?) of a format like: # # address handling objects to be mapped by libc # # AF_XXX value resolver object AF_INET 2 /usr/lib/af_inet.so AF_NS 6 /usr/lib/af_ns.so AF_ISO 7 /usr/lib/af_iso.so AF_IPX 23 /usr/lib/af_ipx.so Which would allow (almost) drop-in support of new address families. Maybe /usr/lib/af/* instead, with: 2.inet.so 6.ns.so 7.iso.so 23.ipx.so To make it truly drop-in-able? Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 13:39:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA05220 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kanto.cc.jyu.fi (root@kanto.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05177 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kallio@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanto.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id XAA10007; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:38:52 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:38:51 +0300 (EET DST) From: Seppo Kallio To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ** Someone experience making Boot ROM for Ethernet card? ** In-Reply-To: <3418.830864990@critter.tfs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The SMC ELite handbook is saying rom type is 27512 BTW I got 3c509 working without problems. I hope I can get The Snap 960330 work with 3c509. I had some problems. Does someone know if it sould work? Seppo On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > We are trying to make boot roms to SMC Elite. We have 27512 UV ROMS but > > SMC seems not to work with them, the ROM code is not visible at D800 as it > > should. > > > > It seems that 3c509 works. Is there some trick how to get SMC Elite to use > > the ROM? > > The eprom may be too big for the SMC, it may max out at 27128... > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. > http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. > whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. > Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 14:02:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA07602 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07588 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id WAA11572 ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:01:14 +0100 (BST) To: Geoff Sloan cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:44:20 CDT." <31867BA4.5804@yiff.stu.rpi.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:01:13 +0100 Message-ID: <11570.830898073@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Geoff Sloan wrote in message ID <31867BA4.5804@yiff.stu.rpi.edu>: > I just purchased Walnut Creek's FreeBSD 2.1 Distribution, and am > having some problems with installation. My kernel panics and reboots > the system whenever it tries to do anything remotely related to ix0 (My > Intel EtherExpress-16 card) It panics on the installation. > Adaptec SCSI adaptor with internal Iomega ZIP. (Zip Zoom interface) Which Adaptec in particular? My GUESS is that you have a device in there which shares the same IO space as the IX card, and that is causing wild pointer references in the kernel. Try using the softset utility (from DOS) to change the cards setup and use the userconfig boot option to correct FreeBSD's view of the card and see if that fixes it. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 14:04:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA07844 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.peerlogic.com (gatekeeper.peerlogic.com [204.31.26.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07828 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gatekeeper.peerlogic.com id AA08552 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:55:14 -0700 Received: from mailhost.peerlogic.com(204.31.26.89) by gatekeeper via smap (V1.3) id sma008537; Tue Apr 30 13:55:01 1996 Received: from ccmail_gw.peerlogic.com ([204.31.26.104]) by internal-dns.peerlogic.com with SMTP id AA03438 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:02:24 -0700 Received: from ccMail by ccmail_gw.peerlogic.com (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 1867efa0; Tue, 30 Apr 96 13:58:34 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:11:42 -0700 Message-Id: <1867efa0@peerlogic.com> From: jolp@peerlogic.com (jolp) Subject: Anonymous FTP problems To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help, I've gone through all of the info that I have, and I can't resolve the following: I'm using wu.ftpd (ported for and included with FreeBSD 2.1) for anonymous ftp server. It documents the method of using /./ to seperate two halves of a user's home directory path. The first half being the chroot location. Regardless of where this string lies in ftp's homedir field in /etc/passwd, the ftp server sets the root to be the same as the complete home directory. This works corrrectly for other users (real), but not an anonymous one. What gives? Thanks in advance, John T. Olp MIS Administrator PeerLogic, Inc. 555 DeHaro St. Suite 300 San Francisco, CA 94107 (415) 626-4545 x306 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 14:17:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA08739 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08719 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA23479; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:15:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:15:42 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9604302115.AA23479@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Terry Lambert Cc: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman), ilko@oclc.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Fix for missing _iso_ntoa? In-Reply-To: <199604302027.NAA07719@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <9604301824.AA22862@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199604302027.NAA07719@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Garrett: what would it take to unify the address manipulation model > to a set of common routines? Someone more willing to waste their time than I am. The IPX code takes the correct approach: just put it in a separate library. Programs which want to deal with address family X link against X's library. Problem solved. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 14:21:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA09295 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlton.innotts.co.uk (root@carlton.innotts.co.uk [194.176.128.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09277 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:21:43 -0700 (PDT) From: robmel@innotts.co.uk Received: from 194.176.128.166 (seriale3f.innotts.co.uk [194.176.128.166]) by carlton.innotts.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA14572 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:22:33 +0100 Message-ID: <31869316.6C0F@innotts.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:24:22 +0000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: rpc.lockd ?? X-URL: http://sunsite.auc.dk/www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBSD people, We've been using a couple of freeBSD machines now for a while for mail, bootp, httpd, uucp, and routing. I want to migrate NFS services off my remaining SCO boxes onto BSD because it seems so much more reliable. NFS sharing is primarily for Windows 3.11 workstations via pcnfs. (Yes I know about samba, and we have evaluated it... but our users are very happy with existing NFS services, and we're reluctant to go over to WfWG -- it seems very insecure) The freeBSD NFS suite seems to lack the necessary rlockd daemon. I've been in correspondance with the author of a freeBSD port, but it is only a dummy, it always grants locks without actually doing anything. Is there, to your knowledge, a working port of this daemon for BSD? I have looked at the code with a view to writing at least cooperative locking, but I'm afraid my knowledge of rpc programming isn't that good and I fear I would have to spend many an hour getting up to speed on it. I hope you can help me... discovering freeBSD has been an enlightenment for this team... we've been slaving over hot SCO boxes for far too long... TIA Best regards Robin. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Addiction Information Services Nottingham Alcohol & Drug Team Tel: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 work: robmel@nadt.org.uk home: robmel@innotts.co.uk WWW: http://www.innotts.co.uk/suba (UK substance misuse pages) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 14:32:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA10538 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (steffi@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10533 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03280; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:29:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:29:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Nicholson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CDDA under FreeBSD? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody know of anything that does digital recordings from CD? What's regarded as the best CD player tool? I'm recording from my machine (no interference?) to minidisc so that I can add the necessary pauses so that my minidisc puts in the track marks. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 14:39:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA11214 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11178 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA13427; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:39:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:39:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Mucho Attitudo To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Pine Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had a file mailed to me and instead of being attached, it was included in the text of the message. I need to save this file as a tar.gz. Is this possible? Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 16:10:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21505 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21497 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13338; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:07:32 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA02886; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:10:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Nicholson Message-Id: <199605010310.XAA02886@justine.elastica.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xmcd isn't in ports. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Fetching version 2.0 and renaming it to 1.4 doesn't work because of the failed checksum. I'd like to disable checksum checking. Although that would probably screw up the patch so I'll forget it for now. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 16:33:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA23050 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23045 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cantina.clinet.fi (root@cantina.clinet.fi [194.100.0.15]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) with ESMTP id CAA10808; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:32:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (hsu@localhost) by cantina.clinet.fi (8.7.3/8.6.4) id CAA05180; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:32:41 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 02:32:41 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199604302332.CAA05180@cantina.clinet.fi> From: Heikki Suonsivu To: Brandon Gillespie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Brandon Gillespie's message of 1 May 1996 00:53:40 +0300 Subject: Re: ram w/o parity.. Organization: Clinet Ltd, Espoo, Finland References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article Brandon Gillespie writes: I am in grey area here, in my own experience, so I am dropping back to the pool of knowledge on this list. I am building a FreeBSD internet box and I have some decisions. If a motherboard can handle RAM w/o parity, should one just get sims without parity? Is there any OS level impact or possible problem? I'm running FreeBSD on a dell PC for my work station, and it is running without parity. However, we have had problems running unixware on a PC w/o parity (we are actually a mac reseller, which is why we have so much ram w/o parity :) If you are going to use the machine for serious work, the cost of 36 bit memory will probably pay itself back with less data loss. In particular if you use a lot of memory. ASUS already has triton-II board out (ECC, not just parity!) and FreeBSD runs on it without problems (well, only one machine for about a week this far :). I haven't tried Intel boards as they require special box which wasn't available from anyone yet, ASUS goes into standard enclosure. -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-0-4375360 fax -4555276 home -8031121 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 16:40:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA23677 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23670 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 19:41 GMT-0400 From: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SMIT(System Maintenance Interface Tool) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will FreeBSD ever have a more userfriendly SMIT utility for managing the system espeacially users? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 17:02:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA24812 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24805 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA08148; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:55:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199604302355.QAA08148@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: rpc.lockd ?? To: robmel@innotts.co.uk Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:55:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <31869316.6C0F@innotts.co.uk> from "robmel@innotts.co.uk" at Apr 30, 96 10:24:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We've been using a couple of freeBSD machines now for a while for > mail, bootp, httpd, uucp, and routing. I want to migrate NFS services > off my remaining SCO boxes onto BSD because it seems so much more > reliable. > > NFS sharing is primarily for Windows 3.11 workstations via pcnfs. (Yes > I know about samba, and we have evaluated it... but our users are very > happy with existing NFS services, and we're reluctant to go over to > WfWG -- it seems very insecure) > > The freeBSD NFS suite seems to lack the necessary rlockd daemon. I've > been in correspondance with the author of a freeBSD port, but it is > only a dummy, it always grants locks without actually doing anything. > > Is there, to your knowledge, a working port of this daemon for BSD? I > have looked at the code with a view to writing at least cooperative > locking, but I'm afraid my knowledge of rpc programming isn't that > good and I fear I would have to spend many an hour getting up to speed > on it. I recently submitted all the kernel patches necessary for support of the rpc.lockd, with the exception of handle translation, which could be fudged in about 20 lines of code if you were willing to require the NFS server code to be statically compiled into the kernel. The main issues are all the state saving in the user space code (mostly nothing more than grunt-work: Andrew did most of the necessary support). I don't have a Sun system handy, so I can't do testing, unfortunately. Jordan was going to do the middle code for an OS class he's taking at Berkeley. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 17:05:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA24946 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24940 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02541; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:08:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gabor Zahemszky cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-newsgroups In-Reply-To: <199604301049.KAA02277@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > For financial reasons, it would be better, if I can read FreeBSD-related > info's not from mail, but from a news-server. So the answer is: are there > any FB-related newsgroups, and what are the correct names of them (I'm > mainly interested in this group, questions) I see comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce and comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc I don't read them though. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 17:12:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25293 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25249 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02552; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:14:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:14:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Nate Williams cc: Denis Malyavin , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: <199604300124.TAA01656@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > > Do you think its worth to install FreeBSD on my system? > > > > It'll be tight, depending on what you put on. you need to have enough > > space either on there or on another FreeBSD machine to build a new kernel > > for. You _want_ to apply the Nomad PCMCIA patches. > ^^^^^^ > > Hey, I take offense at that. The code in the Nomad's patches now exists > almost completely in -current, plus there are lots of bug-fixes for the > APM code in -current that doesn't exist in the Nomad patches. Yes, but most of us don't want to run -current, especially on a laptop. We had to upgrade our Dell to the SNAP so that we could keep up with the patches, which are based on it. But that thing won't run -current as long as I say so. Maybe this desktop, yes, but the laptop is a toy, and we can't spend our time fiddling with it. We spend enough time fiddling with our machines as it is, and they're all on 2.1. If Denis wants to run -current, he can. I was assuming for the 2.1-R case. > If people don't run the actual FreeBSD code we'll never get real working > laptop support in a FreeBSD release. I emailed Hosokawa-san about this, > and he agrees. The Nomad code will continue to be 'alpha' quality > containing hacks and bad things that 'make things work', intended for > proof of concept than actual implementations. Then put it in -stable. -Current is too UNstable for non-hackers to run. > However, the code in -current, while still containing some hacks, is > trying to be a more 'usable' solution for laptops. Exactly. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 17:12:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25323 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wireless.net (wireless-gw.wireless.net [128.49.236.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25317 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from buaas@localhost) by wireless.net (8.7.3/8.6.12) id RAA24419; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:18:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Robert A. Buaas" Message-Id: <199605010018.RAA24419@wireless.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP/CHAP working? Cc: buaas@wireless.net Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone provide any sample scripts and history/recommendations about what version to use to make CHAP work? I'm running 2.1.0-RELEASE, with that version of pppd. Before I dig too deep, have other any experience. I'm trying to duplicate the connection that the Linux guys are making to AT&T/WorldNet given in http://www.mindspring.com/~ekelley/worldnet/linux.html and to see if the performance is as bad as that provided by their Windoz 3.1 stack. (it appears Linux uses iijppp; I want to make pppd work properly using CHAP authentication). thanks in advance. keep up the nice work. best regards/bob From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 17:15:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25415 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25410 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02562; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:18:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: matt payton cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation of FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31857BDE.1273@sw-expo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, matt payton wrote: > I got the FreeBSD CDROM from WalnutCreek, and I can't get the > installation going. After booting from the atapi.flp, and going through > the disk partioning options, selecting cd as the installation media, I > get a message saying "no cd found". I have a 6 speed mitsumi ide, > connected directly to ide controller #2. How can I tell the kernel > where it is ? Put the -c option on the Boot: prompt, and make sure the settings for wdc1 are set properly. > Also, are there any plans to support the Colorado Jumbo > 1400 tape drive ? Thanks for any help. If this is a floppy tape, probably not. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 17:22:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25748 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25709 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02572; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:20:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:20:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Casey Jones cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing from writable cdrom? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Casey Jones wrote: > I had a friend write the 2.1.0-release directory tree and packages > to a cdrom for me, but am having trouble installing. It says it can't find > any dists files? I was wondering if there were any other ways to specify > where to install from or a suggestion on what to use for ufs? I've tried > /dev/cd0/2.1.0-release, but it doesn't seem to want to look at the cdrom > drive. What does the directory tree on the CD look like? My guess is that it was written wrong. The dist directories (/bin, et al) should be on the CD's top level directory. After that, you should be able to install by selecting the "CDROM" install media. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 17:35:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA26303 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26297 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA05536; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:34:54 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:34:54 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199605010034.SAA05536@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: Nate Williams , Denis Malyavin , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: References: <199604300124.TAA01656@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Do you think its worth to install FreeBSD on my system? > > > > > > It'll be tight, depending on what you put on. you need to have enough > > > space either on there or on another FreeBSD machine to build a new kernel > > > for. You _want_ to apply the Nomad PCMCIA patches. > > ^^^^^^ > > > > Hey, I take offense at that. The code in the Nomad's patches now exists > > almost completely in -current, plus there are lots of bug-fixes for the > > APM code in -current that doesn't exist in the Nomad patches. > > Yes, but most of us don't want to run -current, especially on a laptop. > We had to upgrade our Dell to the SNAP so that we could keep up with the > patches, which are based on it. But that thing won't run -current as long > as I say so. Maybe this desktop, yes, but the laptop is a toy, and we > can't spend our time fiddling with it. We spend enough time fiddling > with our machines as it is, and they're all on 2.1. Fair enough. However, realize that the Nomad patches contain lots of -current code in them. > > If people don't run the actual FreeBSD code we'll never get real working > > laptop support in a FreeBSD release. I emailed Hosokawa-san about this, > > and he agrees. The Nomad code will continue to be 'alpha' quality > > containing hacks and bad things that 'make things work', intended for > > proof of concept than actual implementations. > > Then put it in -stable. -Current is too UNstable for non-hackers to > run. The Nomad patches are too unstable for -stable. Heck, some of the patches are too unstable for -current, that's why I hacked them up. All of the 'stable' patches already exist in -stable. However, I don't want to make it unstable by adding in some of the bogus and possibly de-stabilizing patches just to get it working in -stable. Let me summarize what's been done, and what's left: - APM kernel/userland code in both is the same, and is hopefully good enough for all laptops. - PC-CARD kernel support is the same, and is almost exactly the same as the Nomad code (minus some minor hacks and formatting changes). -current -------- - The userland code is working, but slightly out of date (missing some nice features of the Nomad code). - There are some additional (useful), additional (redundant), and patches that -current doesn't contain that the Nomad patches contains. - there are some big hacks that exist in the Nomad kernel code that don't exist in -current. Some of them may be necessary for APM support on certain laptops, but I don't think so with the new patches I did which work around the *real* problem. -stable ------- - The user-land code doesn't exist - A patch to /sys/i386/i386/autoconf.c is necessary to enable the kernel PC-CARD code. - None of the drivers have been patched to add PC-CARD functionality. These patches are not -stable fodder, and although most of them are "OK", some are a bit dicey. The Nomad code simply takes the -current drivers and back-ports them to -stable, plus it contains all of the bad hacks that no longer exist in both -current and -stable. So, if you use the Nomad patches, you still have a chance of an unstable system. (Although the instabilities may not show up on laptops). What I'm trying to do is this: - Work on the understanding the user-land code. Thank goodness I waited until the end to work on it, else I would have gave up long ago. There are lots of hard-coded #'s, missing comments, and lots of magic that goes in in the user-land code. The kernel code is *much* cleaner. - Cleanup the drivers in -current, and add in the good code from the Nomad patches. Also, try to bring in the functionality of their patches into our current drivers w/out breaking them would be nice. :) - Backport all of the driver code to -stable, and provide it as a experimental patch so the next -stable release will have some patches to add this functionality. - Keep my sanity. :) In order to do this, I need *testers* who can tell me how things work, and if folks only use the Nomad code this isn't going to help me at all. Telling folks that 'You _want_ to apply the Nomad PCMCIA patches' implies that there is no other solution, or that the other solutions are somehow 'bad'. Please avoid making my job harder, as I need some help. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 18:48:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA01325 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01320 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA08385; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:41:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605010141.SAA08385@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SMIT(System Maintenance Interface Tool) To: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:41:34 -3100 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Sean Batson" at Apr 30, 96 07:41:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Will FreeBSD ever have a more userfriendly SMIT utility > for managing the system espeacially users? Eventually. If you want to help code, I have all of the design discussions that went by on the lists (or you can look them up at www.freebsd.org). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 18:52:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA01613 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01602 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id CAA15623 ; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:16:59 +0100 (BST) To: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SMIT(System Maintenance Interface Tool) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:41:00 EDT." Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 02:16:58 +0100 Message-ID: <15621.830913418@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Batson wrote in message ID : > Will FreeBSD ever have a more userfriendly SMIT utility > for managing the system espeacially users? Yes. (You really should make your questions a bit more specific you know :-) ) Well, I'll qualify that. I'm working on the UI layer code for a tool which could simplify SOME admin tasks (I've just overcome some problem I was having with some shared libs and can now progress again. Don't worry, it was ``driver error''). I wasn't planning (at this time) on a user admin section, but that could come later, or be done by someone else... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 19:00:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA02203 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [198.7.0.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02133 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbarrm.dialup.access.net (jbarrm@jbarrm.dialup.access.net [166.84.200.169]) by mail1.panix.com (8.7.5/8.7.1/PanixM1.0) with SMTP id VAA10862 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:59:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Masterson X-Sender: jbarrm@jbarrm.dialup.access.net To: Freebsd-questions Subject: Mosaic-2.6, 2.7b4 & Xm.h Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to compile Mosaic, and have found that I'm missing some files. I first tried to compile Mosaic-2.6 (from /ports-2.1) on Dec 29th. This morning I tried Mosaic-2.7b4 (from /ports-current) and got the same error messages; no Xm/Xm.h Archie turned up Xm so I know its out there. But all of the locations refer to other unix systems; aix, ultrix, osf1, dec,... I have yet to find any trace of it at wcarchive.cdrom. I thought I got everything I needed by now. Can anyone here please offer some suggestions as to why this may be happening, or where Xm should be? Is Xm even needed for FreeBSD? Thanks Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0-R <---<---<---<---<---< ------------------------------------------------ [Dec 29, 95 - mosaic 2.6 from ports-2.1] --- Building libXmx cd libXmx; make CC=cc RANLIB=ranlib CFLAGS="-O -DMOTIF1_2 -I/usr/X11R6/include" cc -O -DMOTIF1_2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -c Xmx.c In file included from XmxP.h:64, from Xmx.c:55: Xmx.h:65: Xm/Xm.h: No such file or directory In file included from Xmx.c:55: XmxP.h:67: Xm/BulletinB.h: No such file or directory XmxP.h:68: Xm/CascadeBG.h: No such file or directory ------------------------------------------------- [Apr 30, 96 - mosaic-2.7b4 from ports-current] In file included from ../src/mosaic.h:74, from HTNews.c:29: ../src/../libXmx/Xmx.h:65: Xm/Xm.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 ------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 19:02:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA02496 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from edna.bus.net (edna.bus.net [207.41.24.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA02488 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by edna.bus.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00178; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:01:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:01:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chuck O'Donnell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: rdist Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having trouble automating the distribution of system files to machines on our local network. Using rdist, I can update manually since if I set files to "rw-rw-r-- root wheel" since I am in the wheel group, but not if I am logged in as super-user, which means I can't run rdist through cron since cron runs setuid root. Actually, permission is denied for all of the r* commands (rsh, rcp, etc) issued by super-user, which I assume is for security reasons due to the absence of a password. I have tried setting up an /etc/hosts.equiv but according to ruserok(3), this file is ignored if the remote user is the super-user. I also tried a /root/.rhosts file, which did not work (I think this is also a security problem?). In case it matters, the version is FreeBSD 2.1R. If anyone has any suggestions, please respond directly as I am not subscribed to the questions mailing list. Thank you. Chuck O'Donnell From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 19:33:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA05166 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05157 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UBC.ubc.ca (port45.annex8.net.ubc.ca [137.82.220.45]) by unixg.ubc.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA14190 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3186CCBC.5BBB@unixg.ubc.ca> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:30:20 -0700 From: wayne tamagi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Running Freebsd and Windows 95 X-URL: http://www.freebsd.com/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am interested in installing FreeBsd on my PC system. I am already running Windows 95 and I would like to know how I can run both operating systems. I read some of your FAQ's and the answer to my question was quite vague. My hard drive is already partitioned, so my guess I would run Windows 95 on the C: drive and FreeBsd on my D drive. Is this correct? And if so, how do I toggle the boot up at the beginning of the boot up sequence. Again I am assuming the Boot Manager at the beginning will prompt whether to run FreeBsd or Windows 95. I am very excited to try our your product but I would like to avoid buying another computer system to run FreeBsd. I know that would be a better option. Thanks. Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 20:13:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA07522 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07515 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id EAA17697 ; Wed, 1 May 1996 04:12:57 +0100 (BST) To: Barry Masterson cc: Freebsd-questions From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Mosaic-2.6, 2.7b4 & Xm.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:59:50 EDT." Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 04:12:56 +0100 Message-ID: <17695.830920376@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Barry Masterson wrote in message ID : > Can anyone here please offer some suggestions as to why this may > be happening, or where Xm should be? Is Xm even needed for FreeBSD? Mosaic needs Motif in order to be compiled. Xm is the Motif include files... Motif is a commercial product. See the Vendors page on www.freebsd.org to see who sells motif for FreeBSD (AFAIR the currently recommended one is X Inside, http://www.xinside.com/) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 20:15:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA07667 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07661 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA00553; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:14:47 -0500 Message-Id: <9605010314.AA00553@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:14:47 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: questions@freebsd.org, robert@elastica.com Subject: Re: xmcd isn't in ports. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Fetching version 2.0 and renaming it to 1.4 doesn't work because of >the failed checksum. I'd like to disable checksum checking. Although >that would probably screw up the patch so I'll forget it for now. This should probably go to ports@FreeBSD.org. There is a port of xmcd-2.0 in FreeBSD-current: ftp.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/audio/xmcd You can also get a pre-compiled package statically linked with the Motif libs in /pub/FreeBSD/packages-current/audio/xmcd-2.0.tgz If you use the package, you'll have to link libc.so.3.0 to libc.so.2.x as libc had a revision jump in -current. Oh, and if you use the port, there were some changes to /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk that will prevent a clean build on a 2.1-RELEASE system. You can probably get around this by defining MOTIFLIB=-lXm when doing the make. There may be other changes as well, though. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 20:38:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA09152 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09147 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.jaxnet.com (root@mailhub.jaxnet.com [204.183.221.15]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA13218 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:38:06 -0700 Received: from ben (ts5-028.southeast.net [204.183.221.133]) by mailhub.jaxnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA10391; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960501034236.2f7f4d26@192.1.1.9> X-Sender: bwern@192.1.1.9 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:42:36 -0400 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu From: Ben Wern Subject: Re: IDE CDROM Failure? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >1) Does it work with DOS okay? Looking at a possible hardware failure. >Check cables, etc.... Yep. Anyone else have any thoughts? >I dumped a TEAC proprietary for a Plextor 4.5PleX SCSI and a NCR >controller. Works under freebsd and blows the pants off of that nasty >teac. :) I'm begining to think that's a good option. :) Thanks for the attempt, Doug. Ben From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 21:35:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13275 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from covina.lightside.com (covina.lightside.com [198.81.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13264 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.81.209.55] by covina.lightside.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uETcx-0004JTC; Tue, 30 Apr 96 21:34 PDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:33:17 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: eharley@covina.lightside.com (eharley) Subject: Thinking about 386sx25 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am thinking about using my 386 sx25 with 6 megs of ram and a 150 HD to run FreeBSD. It has a clone IDE card with an IDE HD and an IDE CDROM. Anybody think that I should attempt it or not? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 22:04:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA14617 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clotho.c2.org (clotho.c2.org [140.174.185.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA14612 Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:04:03 -0700 (PDT) From: sameer@c2.org Received: (from sameer@localhost) by clotho.c2.org (8.6.12/CSUA) id WAA17081; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:04:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199605010504.WAA17081@clotho.c2.org> Subject: inn1.4unoff4 & FreeBSD To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:03:59 -3100 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently moved my newsserver from SunOS to FreeBSD (yay!). I compiled inn1.4unoff3 using the same config.data file as the "port" of INN. It is having trouble forking for new client nnrp connections. Server-feed innd connections seem fine.. any ideas? thanks. -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-601-9777x3 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-601-9734 The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 http://www.c2.net/ (or login as "guest") sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 23:00:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA16457 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA16452 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA27370; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:00:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Chang To: Gabor Zahemszky cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: graphical characters? In-Reply-To: <199604301426.OAA04316@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > > i have a question... like for example, if my prompts all turn > > into garbled graphical characters, how do i get my prompt back? i > > ?? > 1) If only your prompt went wrong, you have to type > PS1='promptstring' > in sh/ksh/bash > set prompt='promptstring' > in csh/tcsh > > 2) If everything is garbled, it means that somebody send to the terminal > (or to the emulator) a Set Alternate character set sequence, so > try: > tput rmacs (ReMove Alternate Character Set), or > tput op > tput init > tput reset > reset > tput sgr0 > I think, one of these will work. It's everything is garbled but I remembered there was a way to do something with the Escape key to fix it but does anyone know how? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 30 23:35:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA17805 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA17800 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: hoek@freenet.hamilton.on.ca Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA00052; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:34:44 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA18300; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:36:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 02:36:08 -0400 (EDT) To: eharley cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Thinking about 386sx25 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, eharley wrote: > I am thinking about using my 386 sx25 with 6 megs of ram and a 150 HD to > run FreeBSD. It has a clone IDE card with an IDE HD and an IDE CDROM. > Anybody think that I should attempt it or not? If you're worried about wether or not it'll be a useable system, a 386sx/25 with 6 megs RAM is enough (I'm on a 386sx/16 w/ 4MB ram and it's quite useable! (useable is such a relative word! ;) Make sure it's got enough swap space, though (10-20 MB, preferabbly closer to 20 than 10, outta do it). -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 00:02:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA18795 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 00:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlton.innotts.co.uk (root@carlton.innotts.co.uk [194.176.128.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA18788 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 00:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.176.128.105] (seriale08.innotts.co.uk [194.176.128.105]) by carlton.innotts.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA27004; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:01:37 +0100 X-Sender: robmel@mailhost.innotts.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 08:03:34 +0000 To: Terry Lambert From: robmel@innotts.co.uk (Robin Melville) Subject: Re: rpc.lockd ?? Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 4:55 pm 30/4/96, Terry Lambert wrote: >I recently submitted all the kernel patches necessary for support >of the rpc.lockd, with the exception of handle translation, which >could be fudged in about 20 lines of code if you were willing to >require the NFS server code to be statically compiled into the kernel. > >The main issues are all the state saving in the user space code >(mostly nothing more than grunt-work: Andrew did most of the >necessary support). > >I don't have a Sun system handy, so I can't do testing, unfortunately. > >Jordan was going to do the middle code for an OS class he's taking >at Berkeley. This sounds promising... Are the patches available? Best Regards, Robin. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 00:31:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA19744 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 00:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19737 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 00:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA11786; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:30:49 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:30:48 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IP addresses Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk G'day, If i don't know the IP address of this machine, but know everything else (DNS, gateway, etc), is it possible to find out by some means what my IP is? I'm on an Ethernet. BOOTP doesn't work. XXX Ivan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 01:36:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA22592 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from explorer.netserv.chula.ac.th (explorer.netserv.chula.ac.th [161.200.192.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22511 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from discovery.chula.edu (discovery.chula.edu [161.200.224.7]) by explorer.netserv.chula.ac.th (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16978 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:09:57 GMT Received: from localhost by discovery.chula.edu (8.7.3) id LAA03201; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:03:27 +0700 (GMT+0700) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:03:27 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Ravis Tasakorn To: FreeBSD@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe freebsd-hackers-digest From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 01:36:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA22622 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22614 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA24378; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:07:42 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605010837.SAA24378@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: IP addresses To: s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (HMG coA reductase) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:07:41 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "HMG coA reductase" at May 1, 96 05:30:48 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HMG coA reductase stands accused of saying: > > If i don't know the IP address of this machine, but know everything else > (DNS, gateway, etc), is it possible to find out by some means what my IP > is? I'm on an Ethernet. BOOTP doesn't work. Huh? Maybe it's the beers that have done it (to all that give a damn, the customers gave the hardware a 100% thumbs up, including the cluster of FreeBSD machines running the radar and processing the test data - we even made half a dozen photocopies of the FreeBSD CDrom covers 8), but I can't work this out out. Either : You have a machine coming up and you want to work out what address it should have (1), or you're on a machine and you want to find its IP (2). For (1), BOOTP will only work if you have a server previously configured for it on the network. Assuming this is met, then BOOTP certainly _does_ work. For (2), try 'ifconfig -au' for a list of all of the interfaces that are up on the system. > Ivan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 01:45:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA23651 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netlink.co.uk (root@castle.netlink.co.uk [194.72.237.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA23645 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by netlink.co.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #6) id m0uEXZU-000DmKC; Wed, 1 May 96 09:47 BST Message-Id: From: trig@netlink.co.uk (Christiaan Keet) Subject: 3C509 on PCI fails to probe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:47:40 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a 3Com 3C509 PCI card that fails to probe on boot. On running the Dos autoconfig program for the card, it reports that it's on IRQ11 and port EH80 Now I thought port addresses go of the form 0x300 or some such? Any idea how to configure the kernel to find this card? The rest of the PCI (SCSI and Video card) is fine. Christiaan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 01:54:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA24487 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nibsc.ac.uk (comsig.nibsc.ac.uk [193.62.43.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24429 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 01:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk by nibsc.ac.uk via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.1(NIBSC)) id JAA26857; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:51:33 +0100 Received: by chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/client-1.3.1(NIBSC)) id JAA24536; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:51:32 +0100 Message-Id: <199605010851.JAA24536@chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Can't boot install floppy (was Re: Question :) ) To: steve@server.gslink.com Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:51:32 +0100 (BST) Cc: steve@server.gslink.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604300506.HAA05502@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Apr 30, 96 07:06:05 am From: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From: J Wunsch >Subject: Re: Question :) >To: steve@server.gslink.com (Steve Schwartz) >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:06:05 +0200 (MET DST) >Cc: questions@freebsd.org > >As Steve Schwartz wrote: > >> ok, great. When I get boot.flp image, and type 'rawerite boot.flp a:' it >> writes to the disk for about 3 min..then when I boot up with it, my >> computer just sits there, and does nothing. Umm, am I missing something? >> I'm going to try and download it again. I had loads of problems like this once when using a 2.88 Mb drive (on a DECpc). The rawrite works fine and writes perfectly to a 1.44 Mb disk. This disk _is_ O.K. (boots on other systems). But when I put it in the 2.88 Mb drive on my DEC it fails. (just after the 'twiddle' starts). CMOS-ing the drive as 1.44 Mb fixes the problem. I have a theory that if I were to use a 2.88 Mb disk, it would work fine in a 2.88 Mb drive. Never had a disk to try it with though. Mac Assistant Systems Adminstrator @nibsc.ac.uk mac@nibsc.ac.uk (also postmaster) Work: 01707 654753 x 285 Everything else: 0956 237670 (any time) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 02:28:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA26382 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA26377 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA08060; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:28:09 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 19:28:08 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: Michael Smith cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP addresses In-Reply-To: <199605010837.SAA24378@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > HMG coA reductase stands accused of saying: > > > > If i don't know the IP address of this machine, but know everything else > > (DNS, gateway, etc), is it possible to find out by some means what my IP > > is? I'm on an Ethernet. BOOTP doesn't work. [snip] > > Either : You have a machine coming up and you want to work out what address > it should have (1), or you're on a machine and you want to find its IP (2). yes. i'm on this machine that hasn't got DOS software and hence i cannot know its IP. is there a way to check up an IP according to its ethernet addr or whatever means? > > For (1), BOOTP will only work if you have a server previously > configured for it on the network. Assuming this is met, then BOOTP > certainly _does_ work. What if there's this other server on another LAN that does BOOTP nicely for Novell netware, will it serve BOOTP for my FreeBSD box on that LAN? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 02:50:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA27607 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nibsc.ac.uk (comsig.nibsc.ac.uk [193.62.43.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27556 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 02:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk by nibsc.ac.uk via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.1(NIBSC)) id KAA27738; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:44:51 +0100 Received: by chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/client-1.3.1(NIBSC)) id KAA24923; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:44:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199605010944.KAA24923@chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk> Subject: Re: 3C509 on PCI fails to probe To: trig@netlink.co.uk (Christiaan Keet) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:44:50 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Christiaan Keet" at May 1, 96 09:47:40 am From: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From: trig@netlink.co.uk (Christiaan Keet) >Subject: 3C509 on PCI fails to probe >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:47:40 +0100 (BST) > >I've got a 3Com 3C509 PCI card that fails to probe on boot. > >On running the Dos autoconfig program for the card, it reports that it's >on IRQ11 and port EH80 Now I thought port addresses go of the form >0x300 or some such? Any idea how to configure the kernel to find this card? >The rest of the PCI (SCSI and Video card) is fine. If you really mean EH80 as the I/O port then your DOS prgram is in serious trouble (or it's working in heptadecimal). Mac Assistant Systems Adminstrator @nibsc.ac.uk mac@nibsc.ac.uk (also postmaster) Work: 01707 654753 x 285 Everything else: 0956 237670 (any time) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 03:31:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA29135 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 03:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29130 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 03:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA24661; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:02:51 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605011032.UAA24661@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: IP addresses To: s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (HMG coA reductase) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 20:02:50 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "HMG coA reductase" at May 1, 96 07:28:08 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HMG coA reductase stands accused of saying: > > > HMG coA reductase stands accused of saying: > > > > > > If i don't know the IP address of this machine, but know everything else > > > (DNS, gateway, etc), is it possible to find out by some means what my IP > > > is? I'm on an Ethernet. BOOTP doesn't work. > [snip] > > > > Either : You have a machine coming up and you want to work out what address > > it should have (1), or you're on a machine and you want to find its IP (2). > yes. i'm on this machine that hasn't got DOS software and hence i cannot > know its IP. is there a way to check up an IP according to its ethernet > addr or whatever means? If you haven't had an address assigned to the machine, then it doesn't have one. IP addresses are not a function of the machine's hardware. If your network administrator has assigned the machine an address, then go ask them. We do operating systems, not telepathy 8) > > For (1), BOOTP will only work if you have a server previously > > configured for it on the network. Assuming this is met, then BOOTP > > certainly _does_ work. > What if there's this other server on another LAN that does BOOTP nicely for > Novell netware, will it serve BOOTP for my FreeBSD box on that LAN? See the anser above. If the LAN's aren't connected, then you want questions@mindreading.voodo.org. If they are, you need to find out if the other server actually does BOOTP (on a Novell LAN? I'd be dubious), or whether you should just stick your IP in /etc/sysconfig and fly like that. This _is_ a FreeBSD question, right? -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 03:51:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA29826 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 03:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA29821 Wed, 1 May 1996 03:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id DAA15641 ; Wed, 1 May 1996 03:51:11 -0700 Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7.5/8.7/PanixU1.3) id GAA29706; Wed, 1 May 1996 06:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 06:49:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Masterson To: Gary Palmer cc: Freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Mosaic-2.6, 2.7b4 & Xm.h In-Reply-To: <17695.830920376@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Barry Masterson wrote in message ID > : > > Can anyone here please offer some suggestions as to why this may > > be happening, or where Xm should be? Is Xm even needed for FreeBSD? > > Mosaic needs Motif in order to be compiled. Xm is the Motif include > files... Motif is a commercial product. See the Vendors page on > www.freebsd.org to see who sells motif for FreeBSD (AFAIR the > currently recommended one is X Inside, http://www.xinside.com/) > Thats horrible, how did this happen? I have to buy a commercial in order to use this free product? There must be some way around this. Does this apply to Chimera? Is Netscape the only game in town? And this Motif, does it come with the source code? Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0-R <---<---<---<---<---< > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 04:41:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04129 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 04:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.interpath.com (babbleon@mercury.interpath.com [199.72.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04124 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 04:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from babbleon@localhost) by mercury.interpath.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA21128 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:41:01 -0400 From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Message-Id: <199605011141.HAA21128@mercury.interpath.com> Subject: libc.so.3.0? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 07:41:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is the FreeBSD version of libc.so.3.0 around at an FTP site someplace? (Begging your forgiveness if it's at ftp.freebsd.org, I've looked all around and I can't find it.) I grabbed teTeX, which is only available from -current, and I really don't want to update the entire O/S, but it requires libc.so.3.0, so I just want to grab that. -- Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 04:43:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04276 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 04:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.7.74.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04265 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 04:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from khetan@localhost) by chain.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00329; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:33:38 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:33:38 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IBCS2 errors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all. When I tried to install ibcs2 installation in my kernel, I got these errors : My kernel is included at the bottom. /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_unlink' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_ulimit' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_cxenix' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_rfstart' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_libdetach' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_bsd_to_svr3_errno' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_LEGAL_SIG' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_msgsys' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_getdents' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_clocal' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_unadvfs' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_readlink' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_setgroups' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_getpid' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_chroot' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_rfdebug' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_getuid' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_svr3_sysent' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_sigsuspend' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_access' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_getmsg' (multiply defined) /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_getgroups' (multiply defined) modload: /usr/bin/ld: return code 1 ---kernel--- # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" ident KHETAN maxusers 10 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem #options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=1" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options "MAXMEM=32768" options "SPX_HACK" options "COMPAT_IBCS2" options "IBCS2" options "USER_LDT" options DDB options KTRACE options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 #controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 #options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus #device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #controller ncr0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr #controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr #device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr #device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr #device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device lpt2 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device de0 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 #vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device snp 10 --- Khetan Gajjar Visit at http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations help@iafrica.com or 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 06:26:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA09134 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 06:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA09129 Wed, 1 May 1996 06:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id IAA09691; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:25:25 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199605011325.IAA09691@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: inn1.4unoff4 & FreeBSD To: sameer@c2.org Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 08:25:24 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605010504.WAA17081@clotho.c2.org> from "sameer@c2.org" at Apr 30, 96 10:03:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I recently moved my newsserver from SunOS to FreeBSD (yay!). > > I compiled inn1.4unoff3 using the same config.data file as the > "port" of INN. It is having trouble forking for new client nnrp > connections. Server-feed innd connections seem fine.. > any ideas? thanks. What messages do you see? You could be running out of: o File descriptors o Processes o Virtual memory o Other stuff "More details, please!" OS version, hardware configuration, kernel configuration, etc. I run unoff3 with hundreds of nnrp clients. No probs. > -- > Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-601-9777x3 > Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-601-9734 > The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Now there's an oxymoron ;-) > http://www.c2.net/ (or login as "guest") sameer@c2.net ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 06:39:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA09623 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 06:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viper.cis.upenn.edu (VIPER.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.6.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA09618 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 06:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605011339.GAA09618@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by viper.cis.upenn.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA229778160; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:42:40 -0400 From: jdchung@viper.cis.upenn.edu (Jeffrey D. Chung) Subject: Re: 3C509 on PCI fails to probe To: trig@netlink.co.uk (Christiaan Keet) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Christiaan Keet" at May 1, 96 09:47:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.9] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've got a 3Com 3C509 PCI card that fails to probe on boot. Yes, I have *several* 3Com 3C509. Just so happens the 3Com driver is a piece of crud. I average, oh, about .0125KBps with it. It drops all packets > 230 bytes. I'll mail you a different 3C509 driver soon. Jeffrey Chung jdhcung@cis.upenn.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 06:46:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA09786 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 06:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inau.in.br.np.els-gms.att.net (inau.in.br.np.els-gms.att.net [199.191.130.73]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA09781 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 09:39:09 +0000 From: atul@erredfs1.attmail.com (Atul) Received: from erredfs1 by attmail; Wed May 1 13:45 GMT 1996 Received: from atul ([135.102.11.166]) by erredfs1 (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA15549 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:44:04 -0400 Subject: Controller Issue To: internet!freebsd.org!questions@erredfs1.attmail.com X-Originating-Host: atul Message-Id: <1996May01.093909+0000@atul> X-Mailer: Hummingbird EMail for Windows Version 5.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to install FreeBSD on my computer. I have a BusLogic BT-948 SCSI controller which has a 1G Conner hard disk and 6x Plextor CD-ROM attached to it ( Both SCSI ). While installing, the process does detect that there is a BusLogic Controller installed at IRQ 11 on PCI bus. But it is not able to detect the "bt0" device. This results in no hard disk and no CD-ROM installation. I am trying to manually configure the "bt0" device but no luck. Is there any further device probing I can do ? Where can I get the port, iomem, unit, memsize, IRQ, DRQ settings ? In book it is given that "bt0" will automatically detect all these paramemters. But this is not the way things are going on. Is there any thing I am missing. I thought the BusMaster series is totally supported by FreeBSD. Please help me out of this mess. Atul (908)271-2397 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 07:12:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA10722 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www (quicklink.com [204.32.218.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10716 Wed, 1 May 1996 07:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ts2.port-14.quicklink.com by www (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03126; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:12:45 -0400 Message-Id: <9605011412.AA03126@www> X-Sender: jody@quicklink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 10:13:05 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Joel Kelmenson Subject: Multiple disks for news server? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to thank everyone who replyed to my question about the best setup for a news server. All of your input was most valuable. This is a great forum! I try not to post any questions in this list unless I can't find the answers from the archives from this list. >Joe Greco wrote:> >Remember the golden news rule, >MORE DRIVES TRANSLATES INTO MORE THROUGHPUT. >You would rather have four 2GB Hawk >drives than two 4GB Barracuda's. My question is, how do I span the news over multiple disks. I have seen some answers to this but it was a little to tech. for me to get a good understanding where to start. If someone could shed some light on this I would once again be very grateful. Examples would also be helpful, if possible. Joel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 07:49:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA13028 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.95.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13018 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id KAA22534; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:48:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:48:35 -0400 (EDT) From: System Administrator To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/monthly, /etc/daily -- log rotation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk While perusing a BSDI system I used to administrate, I found the following code in /etc/monthly and /etc/daily that seemed to make a lot more sense that some of the stuff I saw in our equivilant files: rotate() { file="$1"; shift rm -f "$file.$1" "$file.$1.gz" for i in "$@"; do [ "$i" = "0" ] && j="" || j=".`expr $i - 1`" [ -f "$file$j.gz" ] && mv -f "$file$j.gz" "$file.$i.gz" [ -f "$file$j" ] && mv -f "$file$j" "$file.$i" [ "$i" = "0" -a -x $file.scan ] && $file.scan "$file.$i" [ -f "$file.$i" ] && [ "X$ziplog" = "XYES" ] && /usr/bin/gzip "$file.$i" done cp /dev/null "$file"; chmod 644 "$file" } Calling is done as follows: rotate /var/log/maillog 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 rotate /var/log/wtmp 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 rotate /var/log/popper 4 3 2 1 0 Etc. It seems a lot more modular and configurable, etc. It certainly makes the script files seem more readable -- maybe we should consider adopting a similar rotate call? Robert Watson robert@fledge.watson.org / http://www.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 07:58:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA13354 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lenzi ([200.247.248.103]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13342 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by lenzi (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA07280; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:54:47 -0300 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:54:47 -0300 (EST) From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@lenzi To: ClaudeCharbonneau cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: POP server In-Reply-To: <31864201.6FAD@apg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, ClaudeCharbonneau wrote: > Hello > > I am trying to install the POP3 deamon on Freebsd 2.1 and can't find any > help file on this subject. Would you please advise how I can install > POP3, thanks. > Hello Caude, Try to install the qpop... packages that is in the packages directory on the CD. After that, remote the comment in the inetd.conf file regarding pop. send a signal (kill -1) to the inetd process, and you are ready to go. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 08:03:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA13549 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infinity.c2.org (infinity.c2.org [140.174.185.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13544 Wed, 1 May 1996 08:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sameer@localhost) by infinity.c2.org (8.7.4/8.6.9) id HAA26631; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Community ConneXion: Privacy & Community: From: sameer Message-Id: <199605011456.HAA26631@infinity.c2.org> Subject: Re: inn1.4unoff4 & FreeBSD To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 07:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sameer@c2.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605011325.IAA09691@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at May 1, 96 08:25:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What messages do you see? You could be running out of: > > o File descriptors > o Processes > o Virtual memory > o Other stuff > > "More details, please!" OS version, hardware configuration, kernel > configuration, etc. I run unoff3 with hundreds of nnrp clients. No probs. Most of the time I don't get error messages. ctlinnd mode hangs. Sometimes ctlinnd mode tells me that the buffers are full. I have 64MB of RAM, 2.1-STABLE, the kernel has maxusers set to 64... > > > -- > > Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-601-9777x3 > > Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-601-9734 > > The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 > ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ > Now there's an oxymoron ;-) > > > http://www.c2.net/ (or login as "guest") sameer@c2.net > > ... Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net > Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 > -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-601-9777x3 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-601-9734 The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 http://www.c2.net/ (or login as "guest") sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 08:14:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA14093 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA14084 Wed, 1 May 1996 08:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA10149; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:13:16 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199605011513.KAA10149@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Multiple disks for news server? To: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9605011412.AA03126@www> from "Joel Kelmenson" at May 1, 96 10:13:05 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Joe Greco wrote:> > >Remember the golden news rule, > >MORE DRIVES TRANSLATES INTO MORE THROUGHPUT. > >You would rather have four 2GB Hawk > >drives than two 4GB Barracuda's. > > My question is, how do I span the news over multiple disks. I am currently going over this very topic with a client who didn't follow my advice 6 months ago :-) > I have seen some answers to this but it was a little to tech. > for me to get a good understanding where to start. If someone > could shed some light on this I would once again be very grateful. > > Examples would also be helpful, if possible. 1) Read the INN FAQ. 2) Read the INN FAQ again. 3) Read the INN FAQ again and find all the references to disks, symlinks, and expire. THERE ARE CHANGES YOU MUST MAKE TO SUPPORT DOING THIS. I do NOT have a list of changes, each time I set it up I read the FAQ. 4) Read the FAQ every few months too, it changes, and new useful tidbits appear from time to time. I really DO mean for you to read the FAQ three times, in my experience every half assed news installation I've ever seen was done by somebody who thought that they could not afford the time and could just muddle through it. The FAQ is extremely informative. Now, once you have read the FAQ and have set up your INN to support cross-device symlinks in expire, etc., ... I personally prefer to avoid mounting filesystems on hierarchies. I see lots of people who will take a 2GB disk and split it into multiple partitions, one for rec, one for comp, one for soc, and then mount it on three mount points. This isn't really an effective use of space. The way I would do it: # mkdir /news/.0 # chown news.news /news/.0; chmod 775 /news/.0 # mount /some/disk/dev /news/.0 # chown news.news /news/.0; chmod 775 /news/.0 # cd /news # for i in rec comp soc; do > mkdir .0/$i > chown news.news .0/$i > chmod 775 .0/$i > ln -s .0/$i > done rec, comp, and soc now share a single partition. They can easily be moved too. This of course assumes you're building a new spool. If not, you will need to mv the old "rec" "comp" and "soc" out of the way first, and you can use dump/restore or tar to move them to the new disk, if you really want to. I realize that this is very simplistic, but it's also very powerful and easy to maintain. I've done this for years, and done it at some damn big sites. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 08:16:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA14280 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA14275 Wed, 1 May 1996 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA10175; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:15:20 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199605011515.KAA10175@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: inn1.4unoff4 & FreeBSD To: sameer@c2.org (sameer) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:15:19 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, sameer@c2.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605011456.HAA26631@infinity.c2.org> from "sameer" at May 1, 96 07:56:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > What messages do you see? You could be running out of: > > > > o File descriptors > > o Processes > > o Virtual memory > > o Other stuff > > > > "More details, please!" OS version, hardware configuration, kernel > > configuration, etc. I run unoff3 with hundreds of nnrp clients. No probs. > > Most of the time I don't get error messages. ctlinnd mode > hangs. Sometimes ctlinnd mode tells me that the buffers are full. > > I have 64MB of RAM, 2.1-STABLE, the kernel has maxusers set to > 64... You still haven't told me much about the machine. However, do note that I typically set maxusers to 128 or 256 on news servers (I usually use 2*MB of RAM) :-) ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 08:17:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA14384 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14354 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Wed, 1 May 96 17:16 MEST Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id ; Wed, 1 May 96 17:16 MET DST Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24583; Wed, 1 May 96 10:30:04 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 May 96 10:30:04 +0200 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9605010830.AA24583@wavehh.hanse.de> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Smallest kernel ? Newsgroups: hanse-ml.freebsd.questions References: <199604262212.PAA28056@phaeton.artisoft.com> <199604291208.MAA02545@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Reply-To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > Perhaps just for the fun of it, I was trying to figure out what could >> > be the smallest kernel I could get for a diskless system. >> > By removing most things I managed to a 544.319 bytes kernel >> > (some 70KB are symbols), although this has FFS and no WD/FD driver. >> > NFS instead of FFS requires 100KB more. Some hints to reduce kernel size are availiable from my homepage. http://www.bik-gmbh.de/~cracauer/bsd-shrink-kernel.html Happy hacking Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer - BSD User Group Hamburg BSD, Lisp and other programming info http://www.bik-gmbh.de/~cracauer From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 08:21:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA14706 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atropos.c2.org (atropos.c2.org [140.174.185.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA14698 Wed, 1 May 1996 08:21:29 -0700 (PDT) From: sameer@c2.org Received: (from sameer@localhost) by atropos.c2.org (8.7.4/CSUA) id IAA09782; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605011520.IAA09782@atropos.c2.org> Subject: Re: inn1.4unoff4 & FreeBSD To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 08:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sameer@c2.org, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605011515.KAA10175@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at May 1, 96 10:15:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You still haven't told me much about the machine. However, do note that I > typically set maxusers to 128 or 256 on news servers (I usually use 2*MB of > RAM) :-) Oh sorry, I forgot about hardware configuration. I have an Adaptec SCSI 2940. Two Quantum 4GB drives, 1 Seagate 1GB drive, a Digital DC21140, P133 PCI Triton. I'll try upping maxusers. > > ... Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net > Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 > -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-601-9777x3 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-601-9734 The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 http://www.c2.net/ (or login as "guest") sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 08:44:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA15932 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15925 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA29643; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:44:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:44:10 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9605011544.AA29643@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: System Administrator Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/monthly, /etc/daily -- log rotation In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > rotate /var/log/maillog 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 > rotate /var/log/wtmp 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 > rotate /var/log/popper 4 3 2 1 0 They should have used `jot'. :-) > Etc. It seems a lot more modular and configurable, etc. It certainly > makes the script files seem more readable -- maybe we should consider > adopting a similar rotate call? Well, we've got this `newsyslog' program, but none of my systems are recent-enough installs to use it. I don't know if it's capable of handling non-syslog-generated files. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 08:53:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA17755 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17730 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3.smtp.psi.net (relay3.smtp.psi.net [38.8.210.2]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id IAA05553 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d-e.pvt.k12.nj.us by relay3.smtp.psi.net (8.6.12/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA11688; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:42:24 -0400 Received: from DWIGHT/MAILQ by d-e.pvt.k12.nj.us (Mercury 1.21); 1 May 96 11:46:17 -0500 Received: from MAILQ by DWIGHT (Mercury 1.21); 1 May 96 11:45:49 -0500 From: "Bill Campbell" Organization: Dwight-Englewood School To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:45:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Changing name of workstation Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <12E36821E59@d-e.pvt.k12.nj.us> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to change the name of the FreeBSD 2.0.5 workstation that I'm currently managing. As best I can tell, I only need to change the hostname variable in the Netconfig section of the the /etc/sysconfig file. Is that really it? It seems too easy. The only non-straight-from-the-standard-install software that the box is running is CERN-httpd. (I do realize that I have to notify the ISP keeping our site's DNS database of the new name.) Currently I'm using the name that I picked when prompted for during the FreeBSD install off of the CD so I've never changed it "manually". Thanks in advance. - Bill *--------- * Bill Campbell email: campbb@d-e.pvt.k12.nj.us * Dwight-Englewood School phone: 201-569-9500 ext 3206 * 315 E. Palisade Avenue * Englewood, New Jersey 07631 * USA From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 09:09:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA21901 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21876 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA09555; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:12:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:12:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Christiaan Keet cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3C509 on PCI fails to probe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Christiaan Keet wrote: > I've got a 3Com 3C509 PCI card that fails to probe on boot. > > On running the Dos autoconfig program for the card, it reports that it's > on IRQ11 and port EH80 Now I thought port addresses go of the form > 0x300 or some such? Any idea how to configure the kernel to find this card? > The rest of the PCI (SCSI and Video card) is fine. The 3c509 is not a PCI card. Do you mean the 3c590? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 09:18:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA23970 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netlink.co.uk (root@castle.netlink.co.uk [194.72.237.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23956 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by netlink.co.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #6) id m0uEeby-000DmNC; Wed, 1 May 96 17:18 BST Message-Id: From: trig@netlink.co.uk (Christiaan Keet) Subject: Re: 3C509 on PCI fails to probe To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:18:41 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at May 1, 96 09:12:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 1 May 1996, Christiaan Keet wrote: > > > I've got a 3Com 3C509 PCI card that fails to probe on boot. > > > > On running the Dos autoconfig program for the card, it reports that it's > > on IRQ11 and port EH80 Now I thought port addresses go of the form > > 0x300 or some such? Any idea how to configure the kernel to find this card? > > The rest of the PCI (SCSI and Video card) is fine. > > The 3c509 is not a PCI card. Do you mean the 3c590? On closer inspection the 3C509 is the ISA card. What I've got is the 3C590... which is the PCI version :/ Just slotted both into a Win95 machine again and that thinks they're BOTH 3C509s ... go figure. Anyway, I found the vx driver for the 3C590 at http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~fgray/if_vx.html BUT that only seems to work with -stable not with release 2.1 Christiaan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 10:14:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA01504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01499 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10110; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:17:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:17:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Christiaan Keet cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3C509 on PCI fails to probe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Christiaan Keet wrote: > > > I've got a 3Com 3C509 PCI card that fails to probe on boot. > > The 3c509 is not a PCI card. Do you mean the 3c590? > > On closer inspection the 3C509 is the ISA card. What I've got is the > 3C590... which is the PCI version :/ > Just slotted both into a Win95 machine again and that thinks they're > BOTH 3C509s ... go figure. Typical. Win95 probably doesn't have support -- the 590 is a pretty recent card. > Anyway, I found the vx driver for the 3C590 at > http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~fgray/if_vx.html BUT that only seems to > work with -stable not with release 2.1 That may be the case. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 10:23:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA02393 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu (POSTOFFICE4.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.56.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02388 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke (cornellian.ceh.servtech.com [204.181.15.12]) by postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA05853 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:23:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3187685C.43B7@cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 13:34:20 +0000 From: Abdullah Marafie X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ISDN X-URL: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am intersted in FreeBSD but i was wondering if it supports ISDN. I am looking for more information on that like the hardware and cards it supports ..etc. Thank you in advance From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 10:32:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03023 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kdat.calpoly.edu (kdat.csc.calpoly.edu [129.65.54.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03015 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nlawson@localhost) by kdat.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/N8) id KAA11818 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:32:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:32:08 -0700 From: Nathan Lawson Message-Id: <199605011732.KAA11818@kdat.calpoly.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Slowdown after RAM upgrade - 2.1.0R Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I have noticed a real lag in disk activity after going from 16 megs to 32 megs. I did recompile the kernel and added in the BOUNCE_BUFFERS option for DMA. I also changed MAXUSERS from 8 to 16. Is there some option I needed to enable other than these? Thanks, Nate (direct replies to me as well as the list, please) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 10:42:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03804 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03796 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10303; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:43:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:43:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Nate Williams cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: <199605010034.SAA05536@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm pruning the cc: list a bit, although this is probably the end. On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > Yes, but most of us don't want to run -current, especially on a laptop. > > Fair enough. However, realize that the Nomad patches contain lots of > -current code in them. I'll keep that in mind. > > Then put it in -stable. -Current is too UNstable for non-hackers to > > run. > > The Nomad patches are too unstable for -stable. Heck, some of the > patches are too unstable for -current, that's why I hacked them up. All > of the 'stable' patches already exist in -stable. However, I don't want > to make it unstable by adding in some of the bogus and possibly > de-stabilizing patches just to get it working in -stable. (This is about as confusing as when we start talking about more(1) & less(1) :) OK, I can understand that. > Let me summarize what's been done, and what's left: > [...] > The Nomad code simply takes the -current drivers and back-ports them to > -stable, plus it contains all of the bad hacks that no longer exist in > both -current and -stable. > > So, if you use the Nomad patches, you still have a chance of an unstable > system. (Although the instabilities may not show up on laptops). Ah. OK. I can understand that. My experience has been that the Nomad stuff has been pretty solid, but you actually understand what's going on, and I just use it. :-) > What I'm trying to do is this: > [...] > - Keep my sanity. :) Quite important. > In order to do this, I need *testers* who can tell me how things work, > and if folks only use the Nomad code this isn't going to help me at all. > Telling folks that 'You _want_ to apply the Nomad PCMCIA patches' > implies that there is no other solution, or that the other solutions are > somehow 'bad'. Please avoid making my job harder, as I need some help. Then, I'm sorry I stepped on your toes. I was going on what (little) information I had and my personal experience. I wan't aware of what the current status was regarding your work with it. One of my co-workers is on -mobile, but he hasn't forwarded any information over, so I'm in the dark. My remaining question is, although it may be moot in a couple of months with 2.1.x, what are 2.1-R people supposed to do for PCMCIA support? Thanks for all the info. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 10:47:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA04073 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ben.britain.eu.net (ben.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04062 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fennel.compnews.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:10:56 +0100 Received: from padua.compnews.co.uk by fennel.compnews.co.uk; Wed, 1 May 96 18:10:04 BST Message-Id: <21750.9605011709@padua.compnews.co.uk> From: tonyc@compnews.co.uk (Tony Clark) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:09:56 +0100 X-Phone-Number: +44 430 432480 X-Fax-Number: +44 430 432458 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Toshiba T2110 portable laptop. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Toshiba T2110 (b/w) 4MB MEM/330HD twoslot PCMCIA laptop 486/DX After successfully installing FreeBSD 2.1.0 onto my Compaq Laptop i've been asked to install it on another laptop (Don't ask me why but its a very poor spec :) ) When loading the kernel from boot.flp its gets right to the very end and throws up the following error (before loading (sysinstall)). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEBUG: IOCTL(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) = 0 (success) Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction code = 0x8:0xf018c82d code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPLO, pres1, def32, gran1 processor eflag = interrupt enable, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 1 (sysinstall) interrupt mask = net tty bio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and reboots.... I have also booted using -c and removed any conflicting IRQ's (of which they were 25 :). Any help or advice would be greatly accepted. Tony.... -- Little Tony........ Systems Administrator (PA Data Design) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 10:50:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA04269 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04264 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA21048 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 05:54:56 GMT Received: from buffnet3.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa04885; 1 May 96 13:49 EDT Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 13:48:59 -0400 (EDT) From: steve hovey To: Joel Kelmenson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple disks for news server? In-Reply-To: <9605011412.AA03126@www> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Joel Kelmenson wrote: > > My question is, how do I span the news over multiple disks. use symlinks - if drive 2 is mounted on /usr2 and you want alt on it you would make alt: mkdir /usr2/alt Then symlink it into the spool: ls -s /usr2/alt /usr/spool/news ------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Hovey -- shovey@buffnet.net root@buffnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 10:51:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA04373 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04368 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10382; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:54:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:54:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: libc.so.3.0? In-Reply-To: <199605011141.HAA21128@mercury.interpath.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account wrote: > > Is the FreeBSD version of libc.so.3.0 around at an FTP site someplace? > > (Begging your forgiveness if it's at ftp.freebsd.org, I've looked all around > and I can't find it.) You've got it, for the time being: cp libc.so.2.2 libc.so.3.0 Close enough for most usage. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 10:57:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA04708 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA04702 Wed, 1 May 1996 10:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199605011757.KAA04702@freefall.freebsd.org> To: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com Subject: Re: libc.so.3.0? Cc: questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For now, just link libc.so.2.2 to libc.so.3.0 and everything should work fine. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:02:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA04951 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04944 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA07508; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:01:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:01:58 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199605011801.MAA07508@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: Nate Williams , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: References: <199605010034.SAA05536@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > In order to do this, I need *testers* who can tell me how things work, > > and if folks only use the Nomad code this isn't going to help me at all. > > Telling folks that 'You _want_ to apply the Nomad PCMCIA patches' > > implies that there is no other solution, or that the other solutions are > > somehow 'bad'. Please avoid making my job harder, as I need some help. > > Then, I'm sorry I stepped on your toes. I was going on what (little) > information I had and my personal experience. I wan't aware of what the > current status was regarding your work with it. One of my co-workers is > on -mobile, but he hasn't forwarded any information over, so I'm in the > dark. I started the mobile mailing list, and have yet to post to it. :( This is MY problem, as it's much easier to sort of let it slide rather than taking the time to actually put together a 'status' document. I've got one started, but about the time I'm happy with it things change enough that I have to modify it so I don't send it out. I start modifying it, and then just about the time I get around to sending it out, it needs to be modified once again. That's the problem with having 3 development branches I guess. > My remaining question is, although it may be moot in a couple of months > with 2.1.x, what are 2.1-R people supposed to do for PCMCIA support? That's a fair question, and here's the answer which you aren't going to like. It depends. What are your desires? Do you want to help, or just get a 'working' system? If you just want a working system, then get the Nomad stuff and apply it to 2.1R, until I make my patch-set against -stable. Note, Hosokawa already told me that the next release will contain some stuff that is very destabilizing w/regards to combining APM and PC-CARD support. But, that won't matter since the Nomad's are no longer support 2.1, so you won't have patches anyway. Hopefully the old release will be kept around, but if not then there is *NOTHING* for a 2.1R user to do except upgrade to -current. OR, if you want to help out (please!), you can do one of a couple of things, but all involve getting the Nomad patches. Either upgrade to -current and test out the code (w/out the Nomad patches), and then add the Nomad patches if necessary. This will help me out more than you know in that it tests the kernel functionality of both the APM and PC-CARD code, which is pretty much stable as of now. If your card's not supported, you should be able to add in just the driver (and entry into /etc/pccard.conf) from the Nomad's patchset and see if that's enough. Or, if you fancy yourself a programmer you can either use -current or -stable and try to fit in the Nomad patches into there *WITHOUT* de-stabilizing either one. Adding PC-CARD patches to a driver is fairly easy, but many (most?) of the drivers aren't written to be 'hot' swappable. This means that the drivers has some assumptions about the state of the system which aren't valid w/PC-CARD drivers. For example, the 3C3X9 driver (if_ep.c) assumes that all of the bus architectures exist at boot time, so the probe portions of the driver need to be re-written to allow for how-swapping. This kind of work is also good in that it makes the driver more likely to become an LKM, since that's kind of ability is necessary there as well. (At some point, I suspect the PC-CARD and LKM driver code will merge.) The above tasks aren't that difficult (really!), but it requires someone with the necessary hardware to test and the time to do the job. Any kernel guru wannabe (like me) should be able to handle this job w/no problems. I have 4 laptops available, so I can test *some* things pretty well, but I can't test my PC-CARD mods to the if_ep driver to see if it breaks non-PCMCIA cards. If someone on the list had a 3C589 card *AND* a 3C509 card they would be perfect for this job. Please folks, I can't do this alone. I'm going to start making some changes to the drivers in -current on a branch to avoid hosing up the normal users, but that's only to make the code more available for general consumption. If folks don't actually *test* the code, we're not going to get anywhere. This may sound a bit nasty, but if you aren't interested in helping me test and get the FreeBSD laptop support working better, you may as well run Linux where it already works pretty well. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:03:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05006 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04995 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10477; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:06:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Rich Casto cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Netscape on FreeBSD 2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Rich Casto wrote: > I downloaded the netscape 2.01 (netscape201.export_i386_unknown_bsd.tar.gz) > from the ftp20.netscape.com site. > > On trying to run netscape on FreeBSD, it would not execute. What was the error? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:06:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05241 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mendota.terracom.net (mendota.terracom.net [205.213.64.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05235 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.213.64.30] (rightfield.bugsoft.com [205.213.64.30]) by mendota.terracom.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA01236 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:09:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: craigh@pop.terracom.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 13:06:40 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: craigh@bugsoft.com (Craig A. Heilman) Subject: simple install questions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I posted once before but I think the length of my message may have scared everyone away :-). System: 486DX2-80, 16 MB RAM 520 MB IDE drive for DOS/Windoze Adaptec 1542CP SCSI controller 1.08 GB SCSI drive for FreeBSD Questions: 1. How does one capture boot information to file when installing FreeBSD? 2. Is it a good idea to put a small (20MB?) DOS partition on the SCSI drive for emergencies? 3. Should I use BootEasy or OSBS? Thanks, Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Craig A. Heilman Bugaboo Software * * craigh@bugsoft.com Software Engineering & Consulting * * (608) 274-2003 http://www.bugsoft.com/ * -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:07:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05259 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05236 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA07542; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:05:57 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:05:57 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199605011805.MAA07542@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: tonyc@compnews.co.uk (Tony Clark) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Toshiba T2110 portable laptop. In-Reply-To: <21750.9605011709@padua.compnews.co.uk> References: <21750.9605011709@padua.compnews.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Toshiba T2110 (b/w) 4MB MEM/330HD twoslot PCMCIA laptop 486/DX ^^^^^^^ > After successfully installing FreeBSD 2.1.0 onto my Compaq Laptop i've been > asked to install it on another laptop (Don't ask me why but its a very poor > spec :) ) The 2.1R release notes state explicitly that you need at least 5MB of memory to install 2.1R. Once the install is completed you can remove any additional memory over 4MB for the install, but you *need* 4MB. However, you may be able to use one of the newer SNAP floppies which *may* work with 4MB. (A new SNAP is going to be rolled RSN). Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:08:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05422 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyber1.cyberhall.com ([206.154.165.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05417 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbrockus@localhost) by cyber1.cyberhall.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA15334; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:11:35 GMT Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 13:11:34 +0000 () From: David Brockus To: FreeBSD questions Subject: BSDI 2.0 binaries on 2.0.5R Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5R. I was wondering if this version supported BSDI 2.0 binaries or if needed to run a newer version. Also is anyone running the eXcite web server search engine on FreeBSD? (That's the BSDI 2.0 binary I want to run.) Thanks is advance. David Brockus From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:09:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05489 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05483 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id SAA25605 ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:58:26 +0100 (BST) To: Barry Masterson cc: Freebsd-questions From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Mosaic-2.6, 2.7b4 & Xm.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 May 1996 06:49:50 EDT." Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 18:58:25 +0100 Message-ID: <25602.830973505@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Barry Masterson wrote in message ID : > > Mosaic needs Motif in order to be compiled. Xm is the Motif include > > files... Motif is a commercial product. See the Vendors page on > > www.freebsd.org to see who sells motif for FreeBSD (AFAIR the > > currently recommended one is X Inside, http://www.xinside.com/) > Thats horrible, how did this happen? I have to buy a commercial in order > to use this free product? There must be some way around this. Does this > apply to Chimera? Is Netscape the only game in town? And this Motif, > does it come with the source code? In order: . Motif probably provided a better widget set than the freely available ones for what the programmers wanted. It's also a `de-facto' UI standard. . Yes. . Not AFAIR. I seem to remember Chimera uses either the Athena widgets or the plain X Toolkit interface. Both are standard parts of X windows. . Unless you have Motif, sort of. Statically linked versions of Mosaic can normally be found in ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ . Nope. Source for Motif is extra. A lot extra. It's just a programming interface (i.e. a set of include files and a library, or rather 2 libraries, one static (a .a) and one shared (a .so.foo.bar)) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:10:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05563 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05557 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10543; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:13:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mucho Attitudo cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pine Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Mucho Attitudo wrote: > I had a file mailed to me and instead of being attached, it was included > in the text of the message. I need to save this file as a tar.gz. Is > this possible? In what format? If it's uuencoded: (E)xport the message to a file. $ uudecode message.txt That should extract your file. If it's MIMEd: You need a MIME decode utility. I don't know of any offhand. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:17:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06007 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06002 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10580; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:17:58 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Iwan Leonardus cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, sandi@cs.uct.ac.za Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse In-Reply-To: <3185A170.680D@rad.net.id> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Iwan Leonardus wrote: > I have a motherboard Tritron which have a mouse port on board You need to enable the PS/2 mouse driver. >From the FAQ: 4.7. I have a PS/2 mouse (``keyboard'' mouse) (Alternatively: I have a laptop with a track-ball mouse). How do I use it? You'll have to add the following lines to your kernel configuration file and recompile: device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Options for psm: options PSM_NO_RESET #don't reset mouse hardware (some laptops) See configuring the kernel if you've no experience with building kernels. Once you have a kernel detecting psm0 correctly at boot time, make sure that an entry for psm0 exists in /dev. You can do this by typing: cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV psm0 When logged in as root. Note: Some PS/2 mouse controllers have a problem where the presence of the psm0 driver will cause the keyboard to lock up (which is why this driver is not present by default in the GENERIC kernel). This can sometimes be fixed by bouncing the NumLock key during the boot process. Also suggest going into CMOS setup and toggling any value for Numlock On/Off at boot time. The real fix is, of course, to merge the PS/2 mouse driver with syscons. Any volunteers? :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:22:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06297 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06288 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10663; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:25:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:25:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Craig A. Heilman" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: Install prob. w/ 1 IDE & 1 SCSI drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Craig A. Heilman wrote: > I finally jumped in and tried to install FreeBSD 2.1 on my system last > night. The install seemed to go fine but now I can't boot DOS or FreeBSD > except from a DOS or FreeBSD boot floppy (ie. the hard drives are somewhat > "broken"). I'm not sure how much system info is needed so I will probably > give more than is needed... [...] > When I rebooted after the install, I see the following in succession: > > - Award BIOS startup message (normal) > - Adaptec BIOS loaded / SCSI devices found message (normal) > - System Configuration screen (normal) > - blank screen with "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT" in upper left hand corner (most > definately NOT normal) You need to use DOS FDISK and reset the 'active' partition. > I reboot with the FreeBSD boot floppy and type "sd(0,a)/kernel" and > variations on that to try and boot off the SCSI drive. I get a message > like "1049 > 1023 cylinders" (don't remember exact wording). Hmmm, I seem > to remember that it can't boot if root partition is higher than 500MB limit > of DOS BIOS. That is correct. > (3) I assumed that if I installed BootEasy on wd0, then I would initially > boot off wd0 where BootEasy would take over, give me a choice of OS, then > boot FreeBSD no matter where it lives! (ie. above the 500MB BIOS limit). > Is this an incorrect assumption? Will BootEasy work for my situation and > which drive should it go on? BootEasy must go on the first disk, and it does not overcome the DOS BIOS limitation. > I reboot with a DOS floppy and check my C: drive - files are still there > (whew!). I think that maybe I somehow waxed the MBR on my IDE drive. I > try to run DOS's FDISK but it just dies with a "divide by 0" error. I even > copy FDISK to the boot floppy but still get the same error. Why? Don't know. Are you running a disk translator? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:29:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06742 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06737 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA17198; Wed, 1 May 96 18:28:19 GMT Message-Id: <9605011828.AA17198@fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA086355254; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:27:34 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:27:34 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: campbb@d-e.pvt.k12.nj.us Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <12E36821E59@d-e.pvt.k12.nj.us> (campbb@d-e.pvt.k12.nj.us) Subject: Re: Changing name of workstation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Bill" == "Bill Campbell" writes: Bill> I would like to change the name of the FreeBSD 2.0.5 Bill> workstation that I'm currently managing. As best I can Bill> tell, I only need to change the hostname variable in the Bill> Netconfig section of the the /etc/sysconfig file. Is that Bill> really it? It seems too easy. Too easy, yes! Other files you might (or might not) have to edit: /etc/netgroup /etc/sysconfig /etc/ppp/ppp.secret /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.equiv /etc/hosts.lpd /etc/printcap /etc/sendmail.cf /etc/adduser.message -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:29:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06808 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06797 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10721; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:33:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: wayne tamagi cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running Freebsd and Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <3186CCBC.5BBB@unixg.ubc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, wayne tamagi wrote: > I am interested in installing FreeBsd on my PC system. I am already > running Windows 95 and I would like to know how I can run both operating > systems. I read some of your FAQ's and the answer to my question was > quite vague. My hard drive is already partitioned, so my guess I would > run Windows 95 on the C: drive and FreeBsd on my D drive. Is this > correct? And if so, how do I toggle the boot up at the beginning of the > boot up sequence. Again I am assuming the Boot Manager at the beginning > will prompt whether to run FreeBsd or Windows 95. I am very excited to > try our your product but I would like to avoid buying another computer > system to run FreeBsd. I know that would be a better option. Thanks. Yes, you can run both. You will have to install the Boot Manager to the first disk yourself, but that isn't hard. The necessary utils are in /tools on the CD or the ftp site. Other than that, it should be quite smooth. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:43:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA07637 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07629 Wed, 1 May 1996 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09835; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:36:28 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605011836.LAA09835@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SMIT(System Maintenance Interface Tool) To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.org (Gary Palmer) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:36:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: valtech@caribnet.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <15621.830913418@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at May 1, 96 02:16:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Will FreeBSD ever have a more userfriendly SMIT utility > > for managing the system espeacially users? > > Yes. (You really should make your questions a bit more specific you > know :-) ) > > Well, I'll qualify that. I'm working on the UI layer code for a tool > which could simplify SOME admin tasks (I've just overcome some problem > I was having with some shared libs and can now progress again. Don't > worry, it was ``driver error''). I wasn't planning (at this time) on a > user admin section, but that could come later, or be done by someone > else... You should head "the group", then. 8-). Someone ask Jordan to make a system admin tools list (sat@freebsd.org?)... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:47:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA07971 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07966 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09849; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:39:24 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605011839.LAA09849@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: IBCS2 errors To: khetan@iafrica.com (Khetan Gajjar) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:39:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Khetan Gajjar" at Apr 30, 96 00:33:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello all. > > When I tried to install ibcs2 installation in my kernel, I got these > errors : My kernel is included at the bottom. > > /lkm/ibcs2_mod.o: Definition of symbol `_ibcs2_unlink' (multiply defined) [ ... ] > modload: /usr/bin/ld: return code 1 [ ... ] > ---kernel--- > # > # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks > # > # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp $ > # [ ... ] > options "IBCS2" [ ... ] You load it as a module *OR* you option it into your kernel when you build it. Not both. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:53:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08397 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08392 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09866; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:44:18 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605011844.LAA09866@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Strange httpd behavior.... To: matt@nexus.xanadu2.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:44:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, matt@xanadu2.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew Z Stout" at Apr 29, 96 06:40:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ connection response delays in networking code when 2nd drive added ... ] > 1 - Pentium 120 > 40meg ram > Adaptec 2940w PCI SCSI Controller > 2 - Digital DSP3210 2.2 gig SCSI-2s > 1 4xCD-ROM, Sony SCSI Sorry for the delay in response... and after I was the one who asked for more information. I can't explain why adding a second SCSI disk could cause this problem, unless it's a "green" disk that has spun down. Most likely, there is a tagged command queue problem. Depending on which version of kernel you are running, you may need to enable *at least* as many queues as you have drives. On the other hand, it may be a bad queue interaction if they are enabled by default (I don't have a 2940 -- I run NCR controllers), in which case you might need to disable them. Basically: toggle the things and see if it helps. If you still have problems, you'll need to contact the driver maintainer. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 11:56:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08574 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08569 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09887; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:49:04 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605011849.LAA09887@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: rpc.lockd ?? To: robmel@innotts.co.uk (Robin Melville) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:49:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Robin Melville" at May 1, 96 08:03:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I recently submitted all the kernel patches necessary for support > >of the rpc.lockd, with the exception of handle translation, which > >could be fudged in about 20 lines of code if you were willing to > >require the NFS server code to be statically compiled into the kernel. > > > >The main issues are all the state saving in the user space code > >(mostly nothing more than grunt-work: Andrew did most of the > >necessary support). > > > >I don't have a Sun system handy, so I can't do testing, unfortunately. > > > >Jordan was going to do the middle code for an OS class he's taking > >at Berkeley. > > This sounds promising... Are the patches available? The should be in the -current list archives... that's where they were posted. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 12:03:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09002 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08993 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09913; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:54:28 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605011854.LAA09913@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: IP addresses To: s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (HMG coA reductase) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:54:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "HMG coA reductase" at May 1, 96 05:30:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If i don't know the IP address of this machine, but know everything else > (DNS, gateway, etc), is it possible to find out by some means what my IP > is? I'm on an Ethernet. BOOTP doesn't work. You mean ethernet address for bootp, not IP address? Your IP address is assigned to the machine by your administrator. If you boot using BOOTP, then part of the rc is to run /etc/netstart to start up networking -- and to bind your assigned IP address to your interface. If your machine is up and you can telnet into another host, then the command "who am i" at the shell prompt should return your host name, or your IP address, if RARP is incorrectly configured, that you used to telnet in. >From there, you can type "arp -a" (or "/usr/sbin/arp -a") to get a name-to-ethernet-address mapping for your host. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 12:05:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09265 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09235 Wed, 1 May 1996 12:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com by lserver.infoworld.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #12) id m0uEhff-000wz4C; Wed, 1 May 96 12:34 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by ccgate.infoworld.com id AA830977363; Wed, 01 May 96 12:51:15 PST Date: Wed, 01 May 96 12:51:15 PST From: "Brett Glass" Message-Id: <9604018309.AA830977363@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: Luigi Rizzo , phk@critter.tfs.com Cc: kallio@cc.jyu.fi, questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ** Someone experience making Boot ROM for Ethernet card? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > We are trying to make boot roms to SMC Elite. We have 27512 UV ROMS but > > SMC seems not to work with them, the ROM code is not visible at D800 as it > > should. > > > > It seems that 3c509 works. Is there some trick how to get SMC Elite to use > > the ROM? > > The eprom may be too big for the SMC, it may max out at 27128... Another possibility: you may be forgetting to put the signature at the beginning of the ROM. It includes a special sequence (consisting of 5's and A's) followed by a byte containing the size of the ROM divided by 512 bytes. Initialization code is expected to follow immediately thereafter. --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 12:16:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA10053 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10045 Wed, 1 May 1996 12:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA09966; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:09:07 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605011909.MAA09966@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Mosaic-2.6, 2.7b4 & Xm.h To: jbarrm@panix.com (Barry Masterson) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:09:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Barry Masterson" at May 1, 96 06:49:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Can anyone here please offer some suggestions as to why this may > > > be happening, or where Xm should be? Is Xm even needed for FreeBSD? > > > > Mosaic needs Motif in order to be compiled. Xm is the Motif include > > files... Motif is a commercial product. See the Vendors page on > > www.freebsd.org to see who sells motif for FreeBSD (AFAIR the > > currently recommended one is X Inside, http://www.xinside.com/) > > Thats horrible, how did this happen? I have to buy a commercial in order > to use this free product? There must be some way around this. Does this > apply to Chimera? Is Netscape the only game in town? And this Motif, > does it come with the source code? Motif is: o a set of imake templates o a set of header files o a set of man pages o a static library o a shared library o a window manager o a bunch of utilities To compile Mosaic, you need: o the imake templates o the header files o the static library Programs are compiled with a makefile generated from the imake templates, the sources include the header files, and the resulting objects are linked against the static library. Statically linked Motif binaries can be freely distributed. Chimera used the Xaw3d -- 3d Athena Toolkit Widgets: o a set of imake templates o a set of header files o a set of man pages o a static library o a shared library Athena is freely available, and even (sortof) looks and acts like Motif (but not really). Netscape, like Mosaic, depends on Motif (unlike Mosaic, you can't get Netscape source code). You can get a statically linked version of Mosaic by downloading it as a packages (the difference between ports and packages is whether something has been compiled for you, mostly). If you license Motif so you can compile up your own Mosaic (and other programs that need Motif), it does not come with source code for Motif; source for some sample programs is included, however. To get source, you would need a Motif source license from OSF. This is *very* expensive, unless you are an educational institution (check www.osf.org for pricing). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 12:18:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA10243 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10218 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA09979; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:10:21 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605011910.MAA09979@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: /etc/monthly, /etc/daily -- log rotation To: root@fledge.watson.org (System Administrator) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:10:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "System Administrator" at May 1, 96 10:48:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > While perusing a BSDI system I used to administrate, I found the > following code in /etc/monthly and /etc/daily that seemed to make a lot > more sense that some of the stuff I saw in our equivilant files: [ ... ] > Calling is done as follows: > > rotate /var/log/maillog 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 > rotate /var/log/wtmp 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 > rotate /var/log/popper 4 3 2 1 0 > > Etc. It seems a lot more modular and configurable, etc. It certainly > makes the script files seem more readable -- maybe we should consider > adopting a similar rotate call? Too bad you posted their code and we are all contaminated. 8-(. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 12:34:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA12161 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12152 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egg.lmc.ericsson.se (egg.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.32.1]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/gate-0.9) with SMTP id VAA01631; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:33:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from chicago.lmc.ericsson.se by egg.lmc.ericsson.se (4.1/LME-2.2) id AA22160; Wed, 1 May 96 15:33:55 EDT Received: (from lmcsato@localhost) by chicago.lmc.ericsson.se (8.7/8.7) id PAA11624; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:33:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Samy Touati X-Sender: lmcsato@chicago To: Abdullah Marafie Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN In-Reply-To: <3187685C.43B7@cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Abdullah Marafie wrote: > I am intersted in FreeBSD but i was wondering if it supports ISDN. > I am looking for more information on that like the hardware and cards > it supports ..etc. > Thank you in advance > Yes FreeBSD will run with an external TA. For example if you plug the bitsurfrPro into a fbsd box it will act as a modem. For internal cards, I'm not familiar with them. Samy From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 12:48:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13581 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phantom (phantom.nvl.army.mil [140.183.5.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13574 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by phantom (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uEhsh-0002nYC; Wed, 1 May 96 15:48 EDT Message-Id: From: sjones@nvl.army.mil (Casey Jones) Subject: unsub To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: sjones@nvl.army.mil X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe freebsd-questions sjones@nvl.army.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 13:07:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA14983 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14975 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA10175; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:59:24 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605011959.MAA10175@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Pine Question To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:59:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: flaq@synwork.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at May 1, 96 11:13:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If it's MIMEd: > > You need a MIME decode utility. I don't know of any offhand. MetaMail. It integrates with elm fine. I don't know how it would do with pine, but pine can't be too stupid. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 13:09:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA15262 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cioeserv.cioe.com (cioeserv.cioe.com [204.120.165.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15255 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by cioeserv.cioe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA05079 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:09:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:09:42 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199605012009.PAA05079@cioeserv.cioe.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DHCP and Win.95 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone built a DHCP server under freebsd and then had Windows 95 use it? I believed I had the server compiled and configured correctly but Windows 95 just does not see it... ARGH! Umm... help... and stuff? -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 13:18:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA15959 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.cs.uwec.edu (adam.cs.uwec.edu [137.28.109.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15953 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eve.cs.uwec.edu by adam.cs.uwec.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/17Aug95-1218PM) id AA16314; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:18:55 -0500 Received: by eve.cs.uwec.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Aug95-1148AM) id AA30493; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:18:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:18:16 -0500 (CDT) From: MATTHEW TESSAR To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions-digest V1 #799 In-Reply-To: <199605011803.LAA05015@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to configure the user ppp on my computer. When I entered dial from the ppp ON hostname> prompt, the modem dialed and the host machine answered, but just hissed, and did not connect. Any hints?? Any hints in general on ppp? Thanks, Matt Tessar UW Eau Claire tessarmd@eve.cs.uwec.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 13:25:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA16570 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw0.telebase.com (root@gw0.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16552 Wed, 1 May 1996 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by gw0.telebase.com id QAA13400; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miles.telebase.com (miles.telebase.com [172.16.3.224]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.7.1/8.6.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06726; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tootill@localhost) by miles.telebase.com (8.6.12/8.6.9.1) id QAA26934; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:25:08 -0400 From: Ed tootill Message-Id: <199605012025.QAA26934@telebase.com.> Subject: Driver for Intel Pro/100B To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jkh@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have two Pentiums running FreeBsd 2.0.5. I need to add an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B network card. The card has been added and is hardware accessable. There are no irq conflicts. I configured the kernel for this device. Now I need a driver for this card. I found an answer to a question that states the Snap release supports this card. Is there a way to load the driver on the 2.0.5 version of FreeBsd? Ed Tootill N2K, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 13:26:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA16668 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16663 Wed, 1 May 1996 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <17587(2)>; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:25:38 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-TB) id AA16950; Wed, 1 May 96 16:26:20 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22194; Wed, 1 May 96 16:26:18 EDT Message-Id: <9605012026.AA22194@gnu.mc.xerox.com> To: "Gary Palmer" Cc: Barry Masterson , Freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Mosaic-2.6, 2.7b4 & Xm.h In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 May 1996 10:58:25 PDT." <25602.830973505@palmer.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 13:26:18 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You may want to look at lesstif...I can't run motif 2.74b4 on motif 2.0 yet (not sure what's wrong...) marty From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 13:28:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA16875 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.7.74.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16843 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from khetan@localhost) by chain.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00499; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:26:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:26:41 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IBCS2 errors In-Reply-To: <199605011839.LAA09849@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > You load it as a module *OR* you option it into your kernel when you > build it. Not both. Ok. Thanx. I've kerneld it. --- Khetan Gajjar Visit at http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations help@iafrica.com or 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 13:37:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA17539 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17529 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA13031; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:36:46 -0700 (PDT) To: Ed tootill cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Driver for Intel Pro/100B In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 May 1996 16:25:06 EDT." <199605012025.QAA26934@telebase.com.> Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 13:36:45 -0700 Message-ID: <13029.830983005@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It's also in 2.1-STABLE; I recommend that you simply upgrade to that release. Jordan > > > I have two Pentiums running FreeBsd 2.0.5. I need to add an Intel > EtherExpress Pro/100B network card. The card has been added and > is hardware accessable. There are no irq conflicts. > > I configured the kernel for this device. > > Now I need a driver for this card. I found an answer to a question > that states the Snap release supports this card. > > Is there a way to load the driver on the 2.0.5 version of FreeBsd? > > > Ed Tootill > N2K, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 13:49:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA18504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bowden.uces.bangor.ac.uk (bowden.uces.bangor.ac.uk [147.143.15.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18497 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:49:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Crummey (ADM) Message-Id: <15994.9605012048@bowden.uces.bangor.ac.uk> Subject: SCSI CDROM troubles... To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 May 96 21:48:13 BST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, I have a Pentium P90 on an Intel Triton m/board with 16MB RAM. It has an Adaptec 2940 with a seagate 2G Barracuda and a Quantum Elite 2G something, an IBM badged HP DAT drive and a Toshiba 4x CDROM. I get all of these recognised on boot up, but the CDROM gives the message about the drive not being ready and can not get the size. >From reading previous questions it seems as though other people have seen this message, but can use the CDROM fine. If I try to mount the cd device, I get the error /dev/cd0c: device not configured. Has anyone any insight into this problem? -- Tom. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Crummey, EMAIL: tom@uces.bangor.ac.uk | /\ University of Wales, Bangor, | / \/\ Unit for Coastal and Estuarine Studies, | /\/ \ \ Ynys Faelog, Menai Bridge, TEL: +44 (0)1248 713808 |/ ======\=\ Gwynedd, LL59 5EY, U.K. FAX: +44 (0)1248 716729 | B A N G O R ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 14:01:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA19098 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crux4.cit.cornell.edu (ro11@CRUX4.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.232.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19090 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: ro11@crux4.cit.cornell.edu Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:00:18 -0400 Received: by crux4.cit.cornell.edu (5.65/2.0) id AA16570; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:00:18 -0400 Message-Id: <9605012100.AA16570@crux4.cit.cornell.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Right Mouse Button not working in XF86 in 2.1.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I wonder if anyone can help me with this. I installed 2.1.0 on my Pentium without too much trouble, ditto for XFree 86 (the new beta version, because I have the ATI Mach 64 card). Everything works fine (for instance I have Netscape running) except that the right mouse button does not work. During the xf86config I selected /dev/cuaa0 (I have a Microsoft mouse on COM1), Microsoft protocol and 3 button emulation. Anyone have any suggestions on getting the right mouse button to work ? Regarsd, (Regards,) Rohan. oberoi@cornell.edu P.S. Yes, the left mouse button works. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 14:04:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA19286 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mendota.terracom.net (mendota.terracom.net [205.213.64.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19277 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.213.64.30] (rightfield.bugsoft.com [205.213.64.30]) by mendota.terracom.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA08843; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:07:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: craigh@pop.terracom.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:04:37 -0500 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu From: craigh@bugsoft.com (Craig A. Heilman) Subject: Re: Q: Install prob. w/ 1 IDE & 1 SCSI drive Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:25 05/01/96, Doug White wrote: >On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Craig A. Heilman wrote: [...] >> (3) I assumed that if I installed BootEasy on wd0, then I would initially >> boot off wd0 where BootEasy would take over, give me a choice of OS, then >> boot FreeBSD no matter where it lives! (ie. above the 500MB BIOS limit). >> Is this an incorrect assumption? Will BootEasy work for my situation and >> which drive should it go on? > >BootEasy must go on the first disk, and it does not overcome the DOS >BIOS limitation. OK - BootEasy must go on my first disk (IDE). The question that still remains is "can my FreeBSD root partition reside above the 500MB limit (ie. can I put it on the SCSI drive)?" Or am I always forced to put FreeBSD's root partition below the 500 MB limit? Thanks, Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Craig A. Heilman Bugaboo Software * * craigh@bugsoft.com Software Engineering & Consulting * * (608) 274-2003 http://www.bugsoft.com/ * -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 14:41:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA21393 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21385 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA26318 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:25:15 GMT Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa01481; 1 May 96 17:39 EDT Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:39:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PANIC: SBDROP ??????? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody know what causes the above panic? My system keeps rebooting and rebooting! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 14:53:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22008 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22001 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thomas.ge.com ([3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03447; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:53:44 -0400 Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by thomas.ge.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA07530; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:43:57 -0400 Received: from combs.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27512; Wed, 1 May 96 17:53:38 EDT Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by combs.salem.ge.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA15455; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:53:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen F. Combs" Reply-To: CombsSF@salem.ge.com To: Terry Lambert Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, flaq@synwork.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pine Question In-Reply-To: <199605011959.MAA10175@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Works just fine with Pine! 'Tis what I've been using since I started using Pine! ---- Stephen F. Combs Internet: CombsSF@Salem.GE.COM GE DS&TC Voice: 540.387.8828 Network Services Home: CombsSF-Home@Salem.GE.COM 1501 Roanoke Blvd FAX: 540.387.7106 Salem, VA 24153 LapTop: CombsSF-Mobile@Salem.GE.COM On Wed, 1 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:59:24 -0700 (MST) > From: Terry Lambert > To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu > Cc: flaq@synwork.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Pine Question > > > If it's MIMEd: > > > > You need a MIME decode utility. I don't know of any offhand. > > MetaMail. It integrates with elm fine. I don't know how it > would do with pine, but pine can't be too stupid. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 15:03:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22522 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22516 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Screamer (ts8-03.ott.iSTAR.ca [204.191.144.163]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA19279 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:03:33 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199605012203.TAA19279@Fox.nstn.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Scott A. Miller" To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:02:58 +0000 Subject: Re: questions-digest V1 #794 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 29 Apr 1996 at 23:41, Benjamin Lewis muttered: > I'm feeling a bit more ambitious now and would like to set up an > ethernet connection between the computers. Do it!!! This is the second most useful thing you can have in your home! ;-> Besides, if you set both machines up with the boot-manager and a minimal DOS capability, you can play Doom Death-Match and impress your friends more than anything they've ever seen you do with FreeBSD. > I've never worked with ethernet, so I'm pretty clueless > in that area. Networking can be fun & easy... > I thought I'd run a > little name server on host1 so that Win95 will be able to use > hostnames instead of IP numbers to refer to local hosts. Does Win95 > have an equivalent to /etc/hosts that would eliminate this need? Aaarrrggg!!! Don't do it! DNS will bog the machine down. unless you plan to use it on a full-time internet connection you really don't need a name server on your home network. Look in the \Windows directory of your Win95 machine for a file called HOSTS.SAM, copy it, name the copy HOSTS. When you look at the file (it's just a text file) all will be made clear... ;-> On my test network (Not directly connected to the Internet) it looks like: 127.0.0.1 localhost 63.0.0.1 goober.wwfd.com 63.0.0.2 screamer.wwfd.com 63.0.0.3 junker.wwfd.com 63.0.0.4 hehehe.wwfd.com 63.0.0.9 ottawa.cips.ca The first and last of the above machines are actually the same machine... > I'm interested in finding out what the various config files should > look like, i.e. /etc/hosts, /etc/named/*, whatever else needs to be > changed. The Handbook is pretty clear about /etc/printcap, so I > think I can figure that one out (it probably won't need to be > complicated since I'll just hook the printer up to host2 and I'm > unlikely to want to print from host1). On my main FreeBSD box, /etc/hosts looks like: 127.0.0.1 localhost 63.0.0.1 goober goober.wwfd.com 63.0.0.2 screamer screamer.wwfd.com 63.0.0.3 junker junker.wwfd.com 63.0.0.4 hehehe hehehe.wwfd.com 63.0.0.9 cips ottawa.cips.ca Notice any similarities??? > From what I've read so far, it looks like 10 Base-2 cabling is the > way to go for an el-cheapo net like this one. On a side note, does > anyone have any recommendations for inexpensive ethernet cards to > use in this application? I personally will only use 10Base-T. It's the simplest way to go for almost any situation and it's not expensive. My little test net is set up with SMC Elite network cards and an incredibly CHEAP hub. (I think the retail value of the hub is actually around $200, but I got mine free from a friend who was doing cleanup after a fire. It's ugly, but it still works!) As for cost of the cards, I think I saw the SMCs selling for about $75 a piece at some discount place last week. > Like I said earlier, I've sort-of done this before using a serial > connection, but I think it worked more by accident than design. That pretty much sums up most functioning networks ;-> ---------------------------------------------------------- Scott A. Miller Senior Analyst, | Director: Technical Services Reality...Processing | Interimage | http://www1.prestech.net/interimage ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 15:14:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23192 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23162 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA12273; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:17:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: David Brockus cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: BSDI 2.0 binaries on 2.0.5R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, David Brockus wrote: > I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5R. I was wondering if this version supported > BSDI 2.0 binaries or if needed to run a newer version. Not 2.0.5. You may need something even post-2.1; someone please correct me on this. > Also is anyone running the eXcite web server search engine on FreeBSD? > (That's the BSDI 2.0 binary I want to run.) Should work OK if it runs on BSDi. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 15:51:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA27946 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27938 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA21328 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:51:35 -0700 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA12527; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:53:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:53:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Nate Williams cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: <199605011801.MAA07508@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > I started the mobile mailing list, and have yet to post to it. :( Dooh! > That's the problem with having 3 development branches I guess. 'Tis. > > > My remaining question is, although it may be moot in a couple of months > > with 2.1.x, what are 2.1-R people supposed to do for PCMCIA support? > > That's a fair question, and here's the answer which you aren't going to > like. > > It depends. What are your desires? Do you want to help, or just get a > 'working' system? > > If you just want a working system, then get the Nomad stuff and apply it > to 2.1R, until I make my patch-set against -stable. Or the 0323-SNAP. I'd run more current versions, but I don't have my confidence up yet that I could pull the upgrade successfully (and I don't have the diskspace). > Note, Hosokawa already told me that the next release will contain some > stuff that is very destabilizing w/regards to combining APM and PC-CARD > support. But, that won't matter since the Nomad's are no longer support > 2.1, so you won't have patches anyway. Hopefully the old release will > be kept around, but if not then there is *NOTHING* for a 2.1R user to do > except upgrade to -current. 2.1 is falling too far behind, it looks like. > OR, if you want to help out (please!), you can do one of a couple of > things, but all involve getting the Nomad patches. I'd love to, but I barely know how to program C, much less do any Unix hacking. :( I'm only a freshman at the UO, so it'll be some time before I could contribute anything useful. > Either upgrade to -current and test out the code (w/out the Nomad > patches), and then add the Nomad patches if necessary. This will help > me out more than you know in that it tests the kernel functionality of > both the APM and PC-CARD code, which is pretty much stable as of now. > If your card's not supported, you should be able to add in just the > driver (and entry into /etc/pccard.conf) from the Nomad's patchset and > see if that's enough. That would be the extent of my ability, and then I have to get -current on the laptop in the first place. > This may sound a bit nasty, but if you aren't interested in helping me > test and get the FreeBSD laptop support working better, you may as well > run Linux where it already works pretty well. The current support works. I'm happy. If it could work better, that's for you guys to decide. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 15:56:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA28502 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28496 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA12573; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:59:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Craig A. Heilman" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: Install prob. w/ 1 IDE & 1 SCSI drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Craig A. Heilman wrote: > At 11:25 05/01/96, Doug White wrote: > >On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Craig A. Heilman wrote: > [...] > >> (3) I assumed that if I installed BootEasy on wd0, then I would initially > >> boot off wd0 where BootEasy would take over, give me a choice of OS, then > >> boot FreeBSD no matter where it lives! (ie. above the 500MB BIOS limit). > >> Is this an incorrect assumption? Will BootEasy work for my situation and > >> which drive should it go on? > > > >BootEasy must go on the first disk, and it does not overcome the DOS > >BIOS limitation. > > > OK - BootEasy must go on my first disk (IDE). The question that still > remains is "can my FreeBSD root partition reside above the 500MB limit (ie. > can I put it on the SCSI drive)?" Or am I always forced to put FreeBSD's > root partition below the 500 MB limit? No. You _must_ have at least the root partition below 500mb. You can put the rest anywhere you want. One suggestion was to create root below 500mb, have your dos partition or whatever, and put /var,/usr, etc. after that. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 15:58:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA28582 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28570 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA08788; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:57:36 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:57:36 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199605012257.QAA08788@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: Nate Williams , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: References: <199605011801.MAA07508@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > This may sound a bit nasty, but if you aren't interested in helping me > > test and get the FreeBSD laptop support working better, you may as well > > run Linux where it already works pretty well. > > The current support works. I'm happy. If it could work better, that's > for you guys to decide. The 'Nomad' patches aren't the same as the support in -current. I have yet to hear any response from folks running -current to see how things work (but I expect it will work fine). Please don't confuse the support of the Nomad patches and the support in -current. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 15:58:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA28624 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kdat.calpoly.edu (kdat.csc.calpoly.edu [129.65.54.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28619 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nlawson@localhost) by kdat.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/N8) id PAA12904; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:57:46 -0700 From: Nathan Lawson Message-Id: <199605012257.PAA12904@kdat.calpoly.edu> Subject: Re: Slowdown after RAM upgrade - 2.1.0R To: craigs@os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Craig Shrimpton" at May 1, 96 03:42:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 1 May 1996, Nathan Lawson wrote: > > >>I have noticed a real lag in disk activity after going from 16 megs to 32 megs >>I did recompile the kernel and added in the BOUNCE_BUFFERS option for DMA. >>I also changed MAXUSERS from 8 to 16. >> > > If by lag you mean less, that's what supposed to happen. More RAM means > less swapping which means less disk activity. If by lag you mean slower, > that's an entirely different problem. Yes, but what would I be complaining about if it swapped less? The problem is that I'll execute a command and it will hang for a second, then the disk light will flash, and the command will execute. When executed a second time, the command executes with normal speed. I interpret this as meaning that my ISA controller card is not running via DMA and thus is much slower (polled via interrupt). The second time, the program image is already in secondary memory and it executes quickly. Now, my question is, why? -- Nate Lawson "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of CPE Student evil to one who is striking at the root." CSL Admin -- Henry David Thoreau, 'Walden', 1854 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 16:24:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA01504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01374 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA12776; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:27:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:27:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Craig A. Heilman" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: simple install questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Craig A. Heilman wrote: > I posted once before but I think the length of my message may have scared > everyone away :-). > > System: > 486DX2-80, 16 MB RAM > 520 MB IDE drive for DOS/Windoze > Adaptec 1542CP SCSI controller > 1.08 GB SCSI drive for FreeBSD > > Questions: > > 1. How does one capture boot information to file when installing FreeBSD? It's in a command called "dmesg", which you can access from the holographic shell (which doesn't start up until install starts). > 2. Is it a good idea to put a small (20MB?) DOS partition on the SCSI drive > for emergencies? It's a good idea to put one there for geometry purposes, but DOS can't access the FreeBSD partition. > 3. Should I use BootEasy or OSBS? >From what I understand, OSBS is more robust, but it's personal choice. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 16:32:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA01990 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01985 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08532; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:29:20 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA00185; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:27:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Nicholson Message-Id: <199605020327.XAA00185@justine.elastica.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: problems with disk and power. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've got a couple of problems I'd like to talk about.. 1. I've got my machine and an external 4 GIG drive in a APS SR2000 case. The 4 GIG is a Quantum Atlas 34300 I'm using a ASUS TP4N configuration with an DTC 3130B Now, when the power to both items is on ... if I switch my machine off I cannot turn the power on again _until_ I've turned off and on the power to the external enclosure... 2. This ones really bugging me. I've got a 2GIG partition on the external enclosure that I'm booting. Whenever I repower my machine it takes at least two boots to get FreeBSD up and running. IT always stops after inetd at boot time and spurts out. sd1(ncr0:2:0): COMMAND FAILED (4 28)@f1090a00. This happens regularly after switching the machine off and rebooting FreeBSD 2.1. If I then reboot it will stick at the boot partition and won't even execute the kernel. If I switch off and turn everything on again it will fsck and boot up fine. Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 17:03:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA04792 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guarany.cpd.unb.br (guarany.cpd.unb.br [164.41.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04775 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.linf.unb.br by guarany.cpd.unb.br (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31990; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:00:25 -0300 Received: from LTH.cr-df.rnp.br (ppp3.cr-df.rnp.br) by antares.linf.unb.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06932; Wed, 1 May 96 21:04:59 WST Message-Id: <31881794.7F1D@linf.unb.br> Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 21:01:56 -0500 From: "Alex Carlos Braga Ant\co" Organization: UnB - Universidade de Brasília X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBsd - USA Subject: unsubscribe ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm subscribed to this list, so what goes worng ? >>>> unsubscribe freebsd-questions**** unsubscribe: '"Alex Carlos Braga Ant\co" ' is not a member of list 'freebsd-questions'. -- _________________________________ _________________________ / Alex Carlos Braga Antão \ /_ __ \ | UnB - Universidade de Brasilia | // ...on IRC | | | // ____ | | e-mail : e9203125@linf.unb.br | // / _/________ | | http://www.linf.unb.br/~e9203125 | /____ /_/ / /) (_) / | \_________________________________/ \_______It's me !_________/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 17:11:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA06401 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (arnie.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.242.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06358 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from state.systems.sa.gov.au by arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #13538) id <01I484YB5TM8007S8S@arnie.systems.sa.gov.au>; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:40:31 +1030 Received: from dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au) by state.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #13538) id <01I484XTVU4G007DMH@state.systems.sa.gov.au>; Thu, 02 May 1996 09:40:07 +0930 Received: from jolt.systems.sa.gov.au (jolt.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.237.8]) by dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA15800; Thu, 02 May 1996 09:43:18 +0930 Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 09:43:36 +0930 From: Garth Kidd Subject: Re: IP addresses In-reply-to: owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org "questions-digest V1 #798" (May 1, 7:58) To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Cc: HMG coA reductase , Michael Smith Message-id: <960502094423.ZM2871@jolt.systems.sa.gov.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <199605011458.HAA13363@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: HMG coA reductase > > If i don't know the IP address of this machine, but know everything else > (DNS, gateway, etc), is it possible to find out by some means what my IP > is? I'm on an Ethernet. BOOTP doesn't work. You could try ARP :) > What if there's this other server on another LAN that does BOOTP nicely > for Novell netware, will it serve BOOTP for my FreeBSD box on that LAN? Yup. BOOTP is BOOTP. LAN WorkGroup won't be able to identify the box by cross-checking your ethernet address against an active connection, so the machine will come up as "unknown" in the address tables. That won't affect your functionality, however. > From: Michael Smith > > If you haven't had an address assigned to the machine, then it doesn't > have one. IP addresses are not a function of the machine's hardware. The BOOTP server that comes with LAN WorkGroup (AFAIK, the only BOOTP server that will run on a Novell Netware fileserver) will create new entries in its tables automatically if it senses a new machine on a segment it serves and has some spare address space to assign. The only flaw is that if a machine moves from one segment to another, the BOOTP server will notice and refuse to do anything about it, forcing the administrator to manually wade through the tables and delete the old entry so that the recently-moved machine can be assigned a new address. >> What if there's this other server on another LAN that does BOOTP nicely >> for Novell netware, will it serve BOOTP for my FreeBSD box on that >> LAN? > > See the anser above. If the LAN's aren't connected, then you want > questions@mindreading.voodo.org. If they are, you need to find out if > the other server actually does BOOTP (on a Novell LAN? I'd > be dubious), If they've installed LAN WorkGroup, they'll be running the LWG BOOTP server on their fileserver to assign addresses to any workstation that runs the LWG IP stack. It runs unadulterated BOOTP, however, and will happily assign addresses to Unix boxen if they ask. The only caveats are that it won't be able to associate the IP address for the Unix box with a Netware username (who cares?) and that if you move the Unix box (or any workstation) from one segment to another you have to do some messy work at the Netware server console. -- garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au | Garth Kidd +61-8-207-7740 (voice) | Network Services Branch +61-8-207-7860 (fax) | Southern Systems | Adelaide, AUSTRALIA From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 17:30:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA08870 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA08860 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA15128; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:27:24 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA03468; Thu, 2 May 1996 00:30:09 -0400 (EDT) To: Samy Touati Cc: Abdullah Marafie , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN References: From: Robert Nicholson Date: 02 May 1996 00:30:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: Samy Touati's message of Wed, 1 May 1996 15:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Lines: 24 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.79/XEmacs 19.13 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody using an Zyxel Elite 2864I with FreeBSD 2.1R? > > > > > > On Wed, 1 May 1996, Abdullah Marafie wrote: > > > I am intersted in FreeBSD but i was wondering if it supports ISDN. > > I am looking for more information on that like the hardware and cards > > it supports ..etc. > > Thank you in advance > > > > > Yes FreeBSD will run with an external TA. > For example if you plug the bitsurfrPro into a fbsd box it will act as a > modem. > For internal cards, I'm not familiar with them. > > Samy > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 17:45:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA10590 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10583 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00204; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:43:45 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605020043.RAA00204@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: ISDN To: lmcsato@lmc.ericsson.se (Samy Touati) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: aam3@cornell.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Samy Touati" at May 1, 96 03:33:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Wed, 1 May 1996, Abdullah Marafie wrote: > > > I am intersted in FreeBSD but i was wondering if it supports ISDN. > > I am looking for more information on that like the hardware and cards > > it supports ..etc. > > Thank you in advance > > Yes FreeBSD will run with an external TA. > For example if you plug the bitsurfrPro into a fbsd box it will act as a > modem. > For internal cards, I'm not familiar with them. > > Samy I highly recommend an ISDN to ethernet bridge (such as the Livingston ISDN Office Router, the Ascend Pipeline 25 or Pipeline 50, or the Cisco 700 series (formerly Combinet)) The advantages are: Multiple hosts can share the PPP connection, you don't lose any bandwidth (128K/s is too fast for standard PC serial hardware), you can use them with Sun, SGI, or other types of hardware (maybe you don't want to today -- but think of where you might be next year), and any TCP/IP over ethernet should work with it. Web Pages for further info: Livingston: http://www.livingston.com (My personal favorite -- comes with their ComOS which as and elegant packet filter language and support RADIUS and some other cool features) Ascend: http://www.ascend.com (A bit spendier -- some models require you to pay extra for the IP routing software; and some require an external NT1. I don't know about packet filltering options and I've heard that they are a bear to configure -- they are the market leader and they offer Stac compression hardware to boost throughput -- when there's an ascend at the other end) Cisco: http://www.cisco.com (I don't know how well they've integrated the Combinet products into their line so I don't know if it has IP packet filtering options) Any of these will be priced between $1000 and $2000. Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 17:57:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA13202 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vent.pipex.net (root@vent.pipex.net [158.43.128.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13190 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dial.pipex.com by vent.pipex.net (8.6.12/PIPEX simple 1.20) id BAA27753; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:57:10 +0100 Received: (from jraynard@localhost) by dial.pipex.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA02029; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:37:54 GMT Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:37:54 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199605012337.XAA02029@dial.pipex.com> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: flaq@synwork.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Wed, 1 May 1996 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Pine Question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Doug White writes: > > On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Mucho Attitudo wrote: > > I had a file mailed to me and instead of being attached, it was included > > in the text of the message. I need to save this file as a tar.gz. Is > > this possible? > > In what format? > > If it's uuencoded: > > (E)xport the message to a file. > $ uudecode message.txt > > That should extract your file. > > If it's MIMEd: > > You need a MIME decode utility. I don't know of any offhand. Just install the mpack ports/package and then 'munpack filename'. James -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 18:13:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA15784 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15775 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA19744; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:09:59 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA04923 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:12:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Nicholson Message-Id: <199605020512.BAA04923@justine.elastica.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: which zcrypt? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Which zcrypt works with unzip on 2.1R? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 18:13:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA15894 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15879 Wed, 1 May 1996 18:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA22408 ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:13:34 -0700 Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7.5/8.7/PanixU1.3) id VAA29050; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 21:10:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Masterson To: Terry Lambert cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mosaic-2.6, 2.7b4 & Xm.h In-Reply-To: <199605011909.MAA09966@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Can anyone here please offer some suggestions as to why this may > > > > be happening, or where Xm should be? Is Xm even needed for FreeBSD? > > > > > > Mosaic needs Motif in order to be compiled. Xm is the Motif include > > > files... Motif is a commercial product. See the Vendors page on > > > www.freebsd.org to see who sells motif for FreeBSD (AFAIR the > > > currently recommended one is X Inside, http://www.xinside.com/) > > > > Thats horrible, how did this happen? I have to buy a commercial in order > > to use this free product? There must be some way around this. Does this > > apply to Chimera? Is Netscape the only game in town? And this Motif, > > does it come with the source code? > [ordered list describing web browsers] Thank you Terry, Gary, for helping to clear this up for me. I had not realized the differences that make up each of the different available web browsers. I just compiled chimera, and it seems to work fine. I'll try the statically linked version of Mosaic next. > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > Again, Thank you. Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0-R <---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 18:16:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA16567 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16520 Wed, 1 May 1996 18:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA26728; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:44:29 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605020114.KAA26728@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ** Someone experience making Boot ROM for Ethernet card? To: Brett_Glass@ccgate.infoworld.com (Brett Glass) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:44:29 +0930 (CST) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, phk@critter.tfs.com, kallio@cc.jyu.fi, questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9604018309.AA830977363@ccgate.infoworld.com> from "Brett Glass" at May 1, 96 12:51:15 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brett Glass stands accused of saying: > > > > We are trying to make boot roms to SMC Elite. We have 27512 UV ROMS but > > > SMC seems not to work with them, the ROM code is not visible at D800 as it > > > should. > > > > > > It seems that 3c509 works. Is there some trick how to get SMC Elite to use > > > the ROM? > > > > The eprom may be too big for the SMC, it may max out at 27128... > > Another possibility: you may be forgetting to put the signature at the > beginning of the ROM. It includes a special sequence (consisting of 5's and > A's) followed by a byte containing the size of the ROM divided by 512 > bytes. Initialization code is expected to follow immediately thereafter. Some things : 1) The makefile for netboot ROMs does this already. Note that they have it working with 509's. 2) The code is not even visible when looking at the area of memory where it should be. Unless the machine they're looking on has decided that the segment isn't the home of a ROM and thus mapped it out (unlikely), the card's not decoding the accesses. Not being an SMC Elite owner, I can't really comment on what may (not) be the problem, sorry. > --Brett -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 18:20:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA17401 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17349 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA26774; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:51:18 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605020121.KAA26774@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Q: Install prob. w/ 1 IDE & 1 SCSI drive To: craigh@bugsoft.com (Craig A. Heilman) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:51:18 +0930 (CST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Craig A. Heilman" at May 1, 96 04:04:37 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Craig A. Heilman stands accused of saying: > > OK - BootEasy must go on my first disk (IDE). The question that still > remains is "can my FreeBSD root partition reside above the 500MB limit (ie. > can I put it on the SCSI drive)?" Or am I always forced to put FreeBSD's > root partition below the 500 MB limit? It's the 1024 cylinder mark, not the 500MB mark. Very few SCSI controllers suffer from this problem with disks smaller than 8GB, as the h/s values they use aren't constrained in the same way that applies to IDE. > * Craig A. Heilman Bugaboo Software * -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 18:30:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA19056 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19050 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA26804; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:01:31 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605020131.LAA26804@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: IP addresses To: garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (Garth Kidd) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:01:31 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org, s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au In-Reply-To: <960502094423.ZM2871@jolt.systems.sa.gov.au> from "Garth Kidd" at May 2, 96 09:43:36 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Garth Kidd stands accused of saying: > > From: Michael Smith > > > > If you haven't had an address assigned to the machine, then it doesn't > > have one. IP addresses are not a function of the machine's hardware. > > The BOOTP server that comes with LAN WorkGroup (AFAIK, the only BOOTP > server that will run on a Novell Netware fileserver) will create new > entries in its tables automatically if it senses a new machine on a segment > it serves and has some spare address space to assign. Ah. So Novell have implemented DHCP over BOOTP. *chuckle*. They never seem to do things the 'easy' way, do they? > garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au | Garth Kidd -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 18:51:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21733 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21725 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00371; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:49:57 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605020149.SAA00371@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: simple install questions To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: craigh@bugsoft.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at May 1, 96 04:27:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Wed, 1 May 1996, Craig A. Heilman wrote: > > I posted once before but I think the length of my message may have scared > > everyone away :-). > > > > System: > > 486DX2-80, 16 MB RAM > > 520 MB IDE drive for DOS/Windoze > > Adaptec 1542CP SCSI controller > > 1.08 GB SCSI drive for FreeBSD > > > > Questions: > > > > 1. How does one capture boot information to file when installing FreeBSD? > > It's in a command called "dmesg", which you can access from the > holographic shell (which doesn't start up until install starts). I heard a rumor that someone on the core team might be working on some enhancements to the console driver (like an option in the scrollback buffer to dump to a file -- or support for virtual console cut and paste -- similar to Linux' "selection" utility -- or preferably more like the old DESQview "mark and transfer" feature. Until then use dmesg and/or look in the /var/log/messages > > > 2. Is it a good idea to put a small (20MB?) DOS partition on the SCSI drive > > for emergencies? > > It's a good idea to put one there for geometry purposes, but DOS can't > access the FreeBSD partition. I highly recommend either a DOS partition or a DOS bootable floppy. When you have to troubleshoot a hardware problem -- that's the way to go (all of the major PC hardware diagnostics packages like CheckIt, Norton's NDIAGS, AMI DIAGS, etc are DOS programs -- and, since DOS is just a program loader, it's significantly easier to isolate the problems. Finally (more than any other reason) when you call a hardware support line to get an RMA or for any support they'll inevitably ask: "What does it do under DOS?" > > > 3. Should I use BootEasy or OSBS? > > >From what I understand, OSBS is more robust, but it's personal choice. I've heard (but have yet to test) that you can use LOADLIN.EXE to load a FreeBSD kernel. This is a DOS program that's designed to load a Linux kernel. Basically it can load a kernel regardless of where your root partition resides. (Otherwise you must ensure that the kernel is on a device that can be access by the machine's BIOS -- which is the number one source of FreeBSD and Linux installation problems). Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 18:54:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21994 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21986 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delphi.gordian.com (delphi.gordian.com [192.73.220.125]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA05302 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by delphi.gordian.com (8.7.2/8.6.9) id SAA22097; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605020153.SAA22097@delphi.gordian.com> From: Steve Khoo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: steve@gordian.com Subject: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are currently considering getting a pentium pro system to use as compute server. Mostly for crosscompiling. Any motherboard recommendations? How are the ASUS motherboards? What is the status of the PCI chipset problems? I'd appreciate any advise. Thanks! SEK From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 18:58:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA22408 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22380 Wed, 1 May 1996 18:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com by lserver.infoworld.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #12) id m0uEo7o-000wr9C; Wed, 1 May 96 19:28 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by ccgate.infoworld.com id AA831002212; Wed, 01 May 96 19:49:10 PST Date: Wed, 01 May 96 19:49:10 PST From: "Brett Glass" Message-Id: <9604018310.AA831002212@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: Michael Smith Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, phk@critter.tfs.com, kallio@cc.jyu.fi, questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ** Someone experience making Boot ROM for Ethernet card? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 2) The code is not even visible when looking at the area of memory where > it should be. Unless the machine they're looking on has decided that > the segment isn't the home of a ROM and thus mapped it out (unlikely), > the card's not decoding the accesses. The SMC Elite also uses shared RAM. Are you sure that the address you've set isn't the address of the shared memory window rather than that of the ROM? Or that you haven't set both to the same address (in which case the RAM might "win")? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 20:15:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA02361 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (arnie.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.242.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02343 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from state.systems.sa.gov.au by arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #13538) id <01I48BCWAXM8007U7J@arnie.systems.sa.gov.au>; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:44:04 +1030 Received: from dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au) by state.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #13538) id <01I48BCLA7OW0073Q8@state.systems.sa.gov.au>; Thu, 02 May 1996 12:43:49 +0930 Received: from jolt.systems.sa.gov.au (jolt.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.237.8]) by dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA16005; Thu, 02 May 1996 12:47:11 +0930 Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 12:45:56 +0930 From: Garth Kidd Subject: Re: IP addresses In-reply-to: Michael Smith <"Re: IP addresses"@state.systems.sa.gov.au> (May 2, 11:01) To: Michael Smith Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Message-id: <960502124600.ZM2871@jolt.systems.sa.gov.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <199605020131.LAA26804@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On May 2, 11:01, Michael Smith wrote: >> The BOOTP server that comes with LAN WorkGroup (AFAIK, the only BOOTP >> server that will run on a Novell Netware fileserver) will create new >> entries in its tables automatically if it senses a new machine on a >> segment it serves and has some spare address space to assign. > > Ah. So Novell have implemented DHCP over BOOTP. *chuckle*. Not quite -- all the boxes get is their IP address and that of the nearest router. The only DHCPism is the dynamic creation of mappings. -- garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au | Garth Kidd +61-8-207-7740 (voice) | Network Services Branch +61-8-207-7860 (fax) | Southern Systems | Adelaide, AUSTRALIA From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 20:19:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA02576 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from recom.recom.com (recom.recom.com [204.213.88.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02563 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odhner (mt-holly-dial8.emanon.net [204.213.88.108]) by recom.recom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA07540 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:25:23 -0400 Message-ID: <31885440.7EE2@recom.com> Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 23:20:48 -0700 From: Geoff Odhner X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: About QIC-3020 tape drive use with FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have installed FreeBSD 2.1.0, and I find that my tape drive is not supported. It is a Ditto 3200, which uses the QIC-3020 format. It appears to me, from looking at the source file, that determining its geometry, and adding it to the array of geometry specifications, might be sufficient to allow me to use this tape drive. Can you tell me if someone has already done this work, and how to get the results to use? If not, can you perhaps give me a bit more information/explanation about the struct used to hold this information, and exactly what needs to go into it? If you tell me this and I am able to get it working, I will, of course, give you the table entry that works. Thanks for your help. -Geoff Odhner From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 20:24:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA02979 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from base486 (DIAL43.SYNET.NET [168.113.1.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02958 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from imdave@localhost) by base486 (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA27900 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.com; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:24:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:24:55 -0500 From: Dave Bodenstab Message-Id: <199605020324.WAA27900@base486> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com Subject: Disassembler anyone? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a stand-alone disassembler for FreeBSD? Thanks! Dave Bodenstab imdave@synet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 20:50:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA05953 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.interpath.com (babbleon@mercury.interpath.com [199.72.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA05938 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from babbleon@localhost) by mercury.interpath.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA06625; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:49:51 -0400 From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Message-Id: <199605020349.XAA06625@mercury.interpath.com> Subject: Re: libc.so.3.0? To: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com (Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605011141.HAA21128@mercury.interpath.com> from "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" at May 1, 96 07:41:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk | | | Is the FreeBSD version of libc.so.3.0 around at an FTP site someplace? As others suggested, linking the 2.2 version to the 3.0 version works fine for now. This technique makes me mildly uncomfortable, but I'll live with it. -- Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 21:20:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA10037 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10024 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA27563; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:51:58 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605020421.NAA27563@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: simple install questions To: jimd@mistery.mcafee.com (Jim Dennis) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:51:58 +0930 (CST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, craigh@bugsoft.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605020149.SAA00371@mistery.mcafee.com> from "Jim Dennis" at May 1, 96 06:49:56 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Dennis stands accused of saying: > > I've heard (but have yet to test) that you can use > LOADLIN.EXE to load a FreeBSD kernel. This is a DOS program Why bother when FBSDBOOT is on the CDrom and the FTP sites? It does basically the same thing, and suffers from the same problems with memory managers 8( > Jim Dennis, -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 21:46:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12931 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statsci.statsci.com (statsci.statsci.com [198.145.127.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12926 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by statsci.statsci.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uEq8y-0005iQC; Wed, 1 May 96 21:37 PDT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by one.sabami.seaslug.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00231; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:39:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199605020439.VAA00231@one.sabami.seaslug.org> To: Terry Lambert cc: root@fledge.watson.org (System Administrator), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/monthly, /etc/daily -- log rotation In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 May 1996 12:10:21 -0700." <199605011910.MAA09979@phaeton.artisoft.com> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <228.831011969.1@one.sabami.seaslug.org> Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 21:39:29 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > Too bad you posted their code and we are all contaminated. 8-(. Should that be taken as an invitation for everyone to post their favorite log rotating scripts? Mine's called logrot: #! /bin/sh # usage=" usage: logrot [-Z | -gz] [-p COMPRESS_PROG] [-O COMPRESS_OPTS] [-nz] [-n NUM2KEEP] file ... This script rotates the named files through a set of NUM2KEEP previous versions of the files. Each backup is named by appending ".n" to the filename where ".1" is the most recent backup file, ".2" is the 2nd most recent backup file, etc. Each of the backup files is optionally compressed. option -Z == '-p compress' option -gz == '-p gzip' option -nz == No Zero (don't zero-out the current file. Useful when what you want is to maintain several versions of the same file instead of rotate/truncating growing log files) default COMPRESS_PROG = ':' # That is, no compression by default. default COMPRESS_OPTS = '' # Options passed thru to compression prog. default NUM2KEEP = 3 # Num of backup files to keep. " If you want the rest I can provide it, along with assurances that it's my own original creation, free for the taking. :-) Scott Blachowicz scott@statsci.com / scott@sabami.seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 22:10:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA16050 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16040 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA28010; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:41:22 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605020511.OAA28010@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: About QIC-3020 tape drive use with FreeBSD To: odhner@recom.com (Geoff Odhner) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:41:22 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31885440.7EE2@recom.com> from "Geoff Odhner" at May 1, 96 11:20:48 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Geoff Odhner stands accused of saying: > > I have installed FreeBSD 2.1.0, and I find that my tape drive is not > supported. It is a Ditto 3200, which uses the QIC-3020 format. It > appears to me, from looking at the source file, that determining its > geometry, and adding it to the array of geometry specifications, might > be sufficient to allow me to use this tape drive. Have you tried? > If not, can you perhaps give me a bit more information/explanation > about the struct used to hold this information, and exactly what needs > to go into it? If you tell me this and I am able to get it working, > I will, of course, give you the table entry that works. Do I sniff a volunteer willing to work on the floppytape code? Are you truly brave enough to shoulder the task? > -Geoff Odhner -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 22:19:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA16823 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.interpath.com (babbleon@mercury.interpath.com [199.72.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA16803 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from babbleon@localhost) by mercury.interpath.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA12169 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:19:35 -0400 From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Message-Id: <199605020519.BAA12169@mercury.interpath.com> Subject: Groups ; Setuid To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:19:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I first used BSD way back in 1981, but I've been wandering in the land of the lost (sys5-ish systems) for many years now, and I don't quite "get it" about permissions and BSD, so . . . 1. I want to be able to su to root from my ID, but did not originally give myself root perms. When I tried to edit (via vipw) the password file to just change my group, it didn't seem to "take" somehow, so I switched it back. If I understand the theory, though, I should be able to be in multiple groups. How? It doesn't seem to be in the handbook or the FAQ, and my perusal of man pages hasn't show anything. I admit I'm not on speaking terms with info yet, but I don't think that FreeBSD favors it anyway. 2. I want to be able to setuid a "script" to root and have it jolly well do whatever I can do logged in as root. In particlar, I want to have scripts to slattach and associated "stuff" to various places and I want to allow non-root folks to do so. I can make some stuff work with suidperl, but even then it barfs if I try to invoke an extermal command that's a shell. Sure, it's a security risk, but this is a home system; it just doesn't need to be *that* secure. Or is there a better way to do this sort of thing? -- Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 22:26:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA17826 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17819 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 May 96 01:27 GMT-0400 From: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: BPFILTER Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I install this device for use with the trafshow utility? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 1 23:39:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA28773 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA28768 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA28369; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:09:29 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605020639.QAA28369@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Groups ; Setuid To: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com (Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:09:29 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605020519.BAA12169@mercury.interpath.com> from "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" at May 2, 96 01:19:34 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account stands accused of saying: > > 1. I want to be able to su to root from my ID, but did not originally > give myself root perms. When I tried to edit (via vipw) the password > file to just change my group, it didn't seem to "take" somehow, so > I switched it back. If I understand the theory, though, I should be > able to be in multiple groups. How? It doesn't seem to be in the > handbook or the FAQ, and my perusal of man pages hasn't show anything. > I admit I'm not on speaking terms with info yet, but I don't think > that FreeBSD favors it anyway. Edit /etc/group and add yourself to the 'wheel' group. > 2. I want to be able to setuid a "script" to root and have it jolly well > do whatever I can do logged in as root. In particlar, I want to have > scripts to slattach and associated "stuff" to various places and I > want to allow non-root folks to do so. I can make some stuff work with > suidperl, but even then it barfs if I try to invoke an extermal command > that's a shell. You can't have setuid shellscripts. Suidperl probably won't execute external shellscripts as root either. You could make slattach setuid-root, although I'd be more inclined to use 'startslip'. Note that ppp and pppd are already setuid-root. > Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 00:45:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA02724 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 00:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02718 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 00:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I4851HFA0G0033X7@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Thu, 02 May 1996 09:43:04 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA13366; Thu, 02 May 1996 09:50:57 +0200 Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 09:50:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: BPFILTER In-reply-to: To: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199605020750.JAA13366@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > How do I install this device for use with the trafshow utility? > Add the following line to your kernel config file, e.g. a copy of /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and rebuild your kernel: pseudo-device bpfilter 4 --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 00:47:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA02799 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 00:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02793 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 00:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id CAA26294; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:03:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id BAA09098; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:47:36 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199605020747.BAA09098@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? To: steve@gordian.com (Steve Khoo) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:47:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, steve@gordian.com In-Reply-To: <199605020153.SAA22097@delphi.gordian.com> from "Steve Khoo" at May 1, 96 06:53:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk See: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/wcarchive.configuration Which basically says: Alder SMP motherboard, Orion Chipset, a 150Mhz pentium pro. Given wcarchive's performance, it's a pretty solid contender. -Dave Andersen Lo and behold, Steve Khoo once said: > > We are currently considering getting a pentium pro system to use as > compute server. Mostly for crosscompiling. Any motherboard > recommendations? How are the ASUS motherboards? What is the status > of the PCI chipset problems? I'd appreciate any advise. > > Thanks! > > SEK > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 01:13:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA03913 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA03908 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uEtW4-000QYeC; Thu, 2 May 96 10:13 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA00865; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:50:15 +0200 Message-Id: <199605020750.JAA00865@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: ISDN To: aam3@cornell.edu (Abdullah Marafie) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:50:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: isdn@muc.ditec.de (FreeBSD ISDN Distribution List), questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <3187685C.43B7@cornell.edu> from "Abdullah Marafie" at May 1, 96 01:34:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Abdullah Marafie writes: > > I am intersted in FreeBSD but i was wondering if it supports ISDN. > I am looking for more information on that like the hardware and cards > it supports ..etc. Apart from external TAs, which look like modems to the machine, FreeBSD also has support for a number of internal boards, in particular (at the moment) the German Teles S0 board. If you want to find out more, you might like to join the ISDN list. To do so, send mail to isdn-request@muc.ditec.de. Although the list is maintained in Germany, it is conducted in English. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 02:14:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA09681 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npc.haplink.co.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA09658 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by npc.haplink.co.cn (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA11699 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:21:42 GMT Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:21:42 GMT From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199605021721.RAA11699@npc.haplink.co.cn> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: firewall Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, when I add firewall options, nothing can go out. Someone told me that the initialization is deny anything, so when reboot I add firewall with ipfw command: ipfw -n addf accept all from any to any but it do NOT work, nothing can go out, help me please! --xiyuan xiyuan@npc.haplink.co.cn PS. I am now not in this maillist, please help me directly, thank you very much! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 02:18:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA10456 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA10435 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 02:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA29510; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:49:51 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605020919.SAA29510@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 18:49:50 +0930 (CST) Cc: steve@gordian.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605020747.BAA09098@terra.aros.net> from "Dave Andersen" at May 2, 96 01:47:36 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dave Andersen stands accused of saying: > > See: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/wcarchive.configuration > > Which basically says: > > Alder SMP motherboard, Orion Chipset, a 150Mhz pentium pro. Given > wcarchive's performance, it's a pretty solid contender. DO NOT BE MISLED by other boards with the 'Orion' chipset. Most suffer from the PCI-posted-write bug and will perform _AWFULLY_. Unless something drastic has happened in the last few months, there are _no_ decent P6 motherboards generally available. The 'Alder' chassis is a special Intel Server Group product, and is AFAIK not generally available. > -Dave Andersen -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 04:57:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA19298 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 04:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA19293 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 04:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA15307; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:51:41 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (JAA02295); Thu, 2 May 1996 09:45:33 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605020945.JAA02295@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: graphical characters? To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Chang) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:45:33 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Chang" at Apr 30, 96 11:00:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > 2) If everything is garbled, it means that somebody send to the terminal > > (or to the emulator) a Set Alternate character set sequence, so > > try: > > tput rmacs (ReMove Alternate Character Set), or > > tput op > > tput init > > tput reset > > reset > > tput sgr0 > > I think, one of these will work. > > It's everything is garbled but I remembered there was a way to do > something with the Escape key to fix it but does anyone know how? > Yes. You have to type this characters manually (rmacs/sgr0/...) Eg: [m is sgr0 on a vt100 like terminal Sometimes (B, or simply ^O but you have to have a shell, which doesn't handle the control characters inside (as in csh with set filec/tcsh/sh/ksh/bash in line editing modes, etc ) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 05:04:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA20028 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nibsc.ac.uk (comsig.nibsc.ac.uk [193.62.43.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA20005 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk by nibsc.ac.uk via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.1(NIBSC)) id NAA10892; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:02:42 +0100 Received: by chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/client-1.3.1(NIBSC)) id NAA04591; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:02:41 +0100 Message-Id: <199605021202.NAA04591@chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:02:41 +0100 (BST) Cc: angio@aros.net, steve@gordian.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605020919.SAA29510@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at May 2, 96 06:49:50 pm From: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From: Michael Smith >Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? >To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) >Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 18:49:50 +0930 (CST) >Cc: steve@gordian.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Unless something drastic has happened in the last few months, there are >_no_ decent P6 motherboards generally available. The 'Alder' chassis >is a special Intel Server Group product, and is AFAIK not generally >available. IIRC ftp.cdrom.com (the busiest site on the 'net for ftp) uses FreeBSD on a PentiumPro. Any one know what their m/board is? I would look at their web site if the US-Uk links weren't so appalinging slow. Mac Assistant Systems Adminstrator @nibsc.ac.uk mac@nibsc.ac.uk (also postmaster) Work: 01707 654753 x 285 Everything else: 0956 237670 (any time) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 05:15:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA21892 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA21874 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA11983; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605021213.FAA11983@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: mac@nibsc.ac.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 May 1996 13:02:41 BST." <199605021202.NAA04591@chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 05:13:10 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>From: Michael Smith >>Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? >>To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) >>Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 18:49:50 +0930 (CST) >>Cc: steve@gordian.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >>Unless something drastic has happened in the last few months, there are >>_no_ decent P6 motherboards generally available. The 'Alder' chassis >>is a special Intel Server Group product, and is AFAIK not generally >>available. > >IIRC ftp.cdrom.com (the busiest site on the 'net for ftp) uses FreeBSD on a >PentiumPro. Any one know what their m/board is? > >I would look at their web site if the US-Uk links weren't so appalinging slow. It's an Intel Alder SMP system with 1 CPU. It is on loan to us from Intel and as far as I know, is not currently for sale. The "B" stepping of the Orion with the PCI write buffer fixed should be available now. I don't know if anyone is making a motherboard with the fixed chipset on it yet, however. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 05:23:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA22428 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua (root@harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua [193.124.63.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA22422 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from univers.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by harrier.elcom.ivano-frankivsk.ua (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id SAA03674 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:08:38 +0300 Received: by univers.chernovtsy.ua; Wed, 1 May 96 16:02:09 +0000 Received: by nnk.univers.chernovtsy.ua (UUPC/@ v6.14, 01Mar95); id AA28343 Wed, 1 May 1996 15:21:33 +0300 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: Organization: Department of Computer Sciences From: "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" Date: Wed, 1 May 96 15:21:32 +0300 X-Mailer: BML [MS/DOS Beauty Mail v1.36h] Subject: /etc/aliases troubles - Final Lines: 10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for all answers, advices :) ! I've just found that the problem was with my sendmail binary. So, the following variant should work: alias::include:/some_dir/aliases_list Oleg N.Kolesnikov From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 05:42:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA23064 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.4.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23059 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.4.136]) by zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.12/COMNETS-1.2) with ESMTP id OAA07247 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:36:59 +0200 Received: (ost@localhost) by smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.12/COMNETS-1.0) id OAA05157; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:36:51 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:36:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199605021236.OAA05157@smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de> From: Martin Ostermann To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Problem with FreeBSD as (simple) gateway (PPP/LAN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Attribution: step Reply-to: Martin Ostermann Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, i got a rather peculiar setup, I guess: I allocated two IP addresses from out institute for my computers at home. These consist of an FreeBSD 2.1R PC and a Digital Alpha, running Linux/axp. The PC is supposed to act as a gateway by the use of PPP. Both machines are connected via Ethernet, using 10.0.0.0 as network address. The network address at work is 137.226.4.0. The machine 137...24 (lurker, a SunOS machine) acts as the ppp gateway. The ppp interface address of the FreeBSD machine is 137...225. It's ethernet address is 10.0.0.1. The Linux machines got the addresses 10.0.0.2, and 137...226 by the use of a "dummy" interface driver. I added ARP entry's for the Sun, and route entries for all machines. I recompiled the FreeBSD kernel with the option GATEWAY enabled. What I observe is this: Networking between my own machines works as expected, e.g. I can use either 137...225/226 or 10...1/2 as addresses from either machine and it works. Also I can connect to the outside from the FreeBSD-box and the other way round. However, I cannot reach the outside world from my Linux-box, nor can I reach the Linux box from the outside. In either case, traceroute stops at the FreeBSD machine. Know, what am I doing wrong? Are there additional settings necessary to enable FreeBSD to act as a gateway? Is there a problem with on machine of the 137.226.4.0 network being on the 'wrong' side of the gateway? Does anybody has suggestions for a better setup to solve my problem? Thanks for any hints, bye, Martin -- Martin Ostermann | mailto:ost@comnets.rwth-aachen.de Communication Networks | http://www.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/~ost Aachen University of Technology | phoneto:++49/241/807917 Germany | faxto:++49/241/8890378 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 05:45:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA23197 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 05:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kanto.cc.jyu.fi (root@kanto.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA23176 Thu, 2 May 1996 05:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kallio@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanto.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA13197; Thu, 2 May 1996 15:45:19 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:45:17 +0300 (EET DST) From: Seppo Kallio To: Luigi Rizzo cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** Someone experience making Boot ROM for Ethernet card? ** In-Reply-To: <199604301618.SAA07128@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks Luigi !!!! Wrote 27256 ROMs and they work 100% !!! I do not understand why the 27512 did not work. The handbook with the card is saying clearly: ROM type 27512. Both are CMS Elite: card and book ;-) I write the netboot nb3890.rom to the EPROM and all 6 workstations boot now nice. The systems need some tuning: /dev/ must be in /var /var must be on local disk. I think there must be some modifications to /etc/rc to prevent sigle user mode. Maybe the trap -commands and some other ?? Can you, Luigi, give me advice or send your /etc/rc? I want to mount /etc/ with passwds from NFS server, and workstations should be as secure as possible: no boots to single user! Seppo On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > We are trying to make boot roms to SMC Elite. We have 27512 UV ROMS but > > > SMC seems not to work with them, the ROM code is not visible at D800 as it > > > should. > > > > > > It seems that 3c509 works. Is there some trick how to get SMC Elite to use > > > the ROM? > > > > The eprom may be too big for the SMC, it may max out at 27128... > > I have been using the Elite with 27256 ROMs for a long time. I believe > this is the maximum size for the Elite. > > Luigi > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 06:49:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA26668 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 06:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.dsu.edu (ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu [138.247.32.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26660 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 06:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by alpha.dsu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12089; Thu, 2 May 1996 08:49:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:49:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: Steve Ames cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: DHCP and Win.95 In-Reply-To: <199605012009.PAA05079@cioeserv.cioe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 May 1996, Steve Ames wrote: > Anyone built a DHCP server under freebsd and then had Windows 95 use > it? I believed I had the server compiled and configured correctly but > Windows 95 just does not see it... ARGH! I've used both bootpd-DD2.4.3 (ftp://ftp.ntplx.net/pub/networking/bootp/bootp-DD2.4.3.tar.gz) and WIDE dhcp-1.3beta (ftp://sh.wide.ad.jp/WIDE/free-ware/dhcp/) under FreeBSD to serve both BOOTP and DHCP (Windows95) clients, so I know these two work. These are the only two daemons I'm aware of that will respond to DHCP requests. dhcp-1.3beta requires that the kernel be built with the berkeley packet-filter interface ("pseudo-device bpfilter 1" in the kernel config file) and /dev/bpf0 exists ("/bin/sh MAKEDEV bpf0" in /dev directory). Check for error messages and request/response messages in /var/log/messages. bootp-DD2.4.3 will log to the LOG_DAEMON facility, and dhcps will log to the LOG_LOCAL0 facility; either way, on a stock system all messages of priority NOTICE or higher should go into /var/log/messages, so there should be some indication of whether your dhcp server is running, whether it had any problems reading its configuration files, and whether it has received any requests. Are your FreeBSD system and your Windows95 client on the same physical network segment? If not, do you have bootp forwarding enabled in the router between the two segments? Can your DHCP server see & respond to requests from regular bootp clients? Hope this helps, Guy Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 07:00:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA27353 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 07:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phantasma.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (root@phantasma.bevc.blacksburg.va.us [198.82.200.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27347 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 07:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kmitch@localhost) by phantasma.bevc.blacksburg.va.us (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA12353 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:59:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Mitchell Message-Id: <199605021359.JAA12353@phantasma.bevc.blacksburg.va.us> Subject: gethostby* error message To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:59:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I occasionally get error messages from gethostby* that look similar to (2.1R): gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for "53.62.32.128.in-addr.arpa", got "53.0.62.32.128.in-addr.arpa" This appears to be caused by DNS servers having CNAMEs in their tables. ie when I do a dig -x on the above address, I get: ;; ANSWERS: 53.62.32.128.in-addr.arpa. 86221 CNAME 53.0.62.32.128.in-addr.arpa. ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: 62.32.128.in-addr.arpa. 86221 NS ns1.Berkeley.EDU. 62.32.128.in-addr.arpa. 86221 NS ns2.Berkeley.EDU. My question is, does this have an impact on anything? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 07:34:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA29895 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 07:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.onramp.net (mailhost.onramp.net [199.1.11.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29885 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 07:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drbeck.onramp.net (stemmons32.onramp.net [199.1.11.196]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA10682 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:34:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3188C81C.6ABD@onramp.net> Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 09:35:08 -0500 From: "David R. Beck" Organization: Innovative Concepts X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux vs. FreeBSD X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to decide between Linux and FreeBSD 2.1. What are the differences, advantages/disadvantages of each? Does one make a better Web server than the other. I tried to pick up a copy of FreeBSD in the Dallas, Tx. area today (called, called and drove). No luck! I found Linux everywhere. I know I can order FreeBSD, but that's just the impatient person I am ;> The main reason I am considering FreeBSD is that I was very disappointed with the lack of (or my inability to find) ppp connectivity in the Slackware 2.2 with the 1.2.1 kernel. I didn't see any mention of this in your FAQ... Any comparison of Linux to FreeBSD would help. Thanks in advance. David Beck drbeck@onramp.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 07:54:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA01262 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 07:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01250 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA04731; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:54:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:54:33 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9605021454.AA04731@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: davidg@root.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? In-Reply-To: <199605021213.FAA11983@Root.COM> References: <199605021202.NAA04591@chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk> <199605021213.FAA11983@Root.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > It's an Intel Alder SMP system with 1 CPU. It is on loan to us from Intel > and as far as I know, is not currently for sale. The "B" stepping of the Orion > with the PCI write buffer fixed should be available now. I don't know if > anyone is making a motherboard with the fixed chipset on it yet, however. We have a gaggle (well, four) of Intel PPro systems with the fixed Orion chipset (remember to get the /server/ version, I think that's -KX...?). We got them for free from Intel, however, so I don't know if the motherboard in them is actually being sold on the open market right now. I am right now running Satoshi's bcopy comparisons on this machine. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 08:14:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA02560 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 08:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nation-net.com (mailgate.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02555 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 08:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w14.winecellar.co.uk (194.159.125.14) by mailgate.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Thu, 2 May 1996 16:16:08 +0000 Message-ID: <3188D153.6DED@nation-net.com> Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 16:14:27 +0100 From: Paul Walsh Organization: Walsh Simmons X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Backup advice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you point me to info on recommended hardware and Unix utils for backing up user files on an ethernet/PC/MAC/appleshare network !? We have DAT for the macs - could I use that, or dump to the mac servers first? And whats the best way to do a system backup of config files etc, for disaster recovery? Thanks, Paul Walsh From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 08:16:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA02752 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 08:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.intac.com (root@nile.intac.com [198.6.114.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02744 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 08:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rey.medco.com (dca2@nile.intac.com [198.6.114.2]) by mailhost.intac.com (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12797 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605021516.LAA12797@mailhost.intac.com> Date: Thu, 02 May 96 12:15:34 -0400 From: Ray X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi; Does FreeBSD Supports IBM Token Ring adapters? Ray. dca2@intac.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 08:24:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA03336 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 08:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ra.nilenet.com (erlwein@ra.nilenet.com [204.227.31.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03310 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 08:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from erlwein@localhost) by ra.nilenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA05595 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:24:08 -0600 From: Brad Erlwein Message-Id: <199605021524.JAA05595@ra.nilenet.com> Subject: sound blaster question To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:24:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there support for the SOund Blaster AWE32? thanks, brad erlwein From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 09:07:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA07335 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pina1 (pina1.telecom.at [194.37.252.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07308 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from async9.pinrt4.telecom.at (async9.pinrt4.telecom.at [194.118.2.109]) by pina1 (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA68123 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:05:57 +0200 Message-Id: <199605021605.SAA68123@pina1> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Franz Hollerer" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 18:09:21 +0000 Subject: RS232C: how can I control rts/cts dtr/dsr? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a little problem and so I home that someone can help me: I have to write a program which misuses the hanshake lines of a rs232c. Can I do this from an user process or must I go into the kernel? Thanks, Franz EEG, Hard&Software Development Austria We have no kangaroos. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 09:07:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA07347 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pina1 (pina1.telecom.at [194.37.252.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07313 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from async9.pinrt4.telecom.at (async9.pinrt4.telecom.at [194.118.2.109]) by pina1 (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA51255 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:05:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199605021605.SAA51255@pina1> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Franz Hollerer" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 18:09:21 +0000 Subject: Real-Time Processes Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a little problem and so I hope that someone can help me. 1) Does FreeBSD support Real-Time Processes? 2) If yes, what is the respond time in worst case (<20ms?). I plan to use a 486DX-33, 16MB running X11 and a few non critical applications. 3) Where can I find further informations? Thanks, Franz EEG, Hard&Software Development Austria We have no kangaroos. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 09:47:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA09441 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09429 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id JAA22058 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egg.lmc.ericsson.se (egg.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.32.1]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/gate-0.9) with SMTP id SAA24328 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:44:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from chicago.lmc.ericsson.se by egg.lmc.ericsson.se (4.1/LME-2.2) id AA25872; Thu, 2 May 96 09:59:35 EDT Received: (from lmcsato@localhost) by chicago.lmc.ericsson.se (8.7/8.7) id JAA13756; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:58:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Samy Touati X-Sender: lmcsato@chicago To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: interrupt-level buffer overflows Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a fbsd 2.1 machine connected to an external ISDN. I noticed that I'm getting some interrupt-level buffer overflows when doing X remote access to the machine. Is this could cause a crash to the machine in the long term? The machine is a 386 33Mhz with 8 Mb of ram, an ethernet card a 16550A seial board, and is connected to a pool of 100 machines mainly sparc 10. Is there's something I can do to get rid of this buffer overflow situation? Thanks. Samy From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 10:02:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA10124 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterloo.border.com (dionysus.waterloo.border.com [205.150.111.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10119 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dionysus.waterloo.border.com id <36865>; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:57:05 -0400 Message-Id: <96May2.125705edt.36865@dionysus.waterloo.border.com> Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:00:36 -0400 From: Sanjeev Shankar Organization: Border Network Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: bsd.port.mk X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'vw downloaded the 'workman' port & am tryinh to compile on a NetBSD machine which does not have the bsd.port.mk file. Where can I find this file ( and any other required and supporting file)?? Thx & Rgds -Sanjeev From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 11:26:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA15323 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from millennianet.com (millennianet.com [205.219.126.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15318 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from htchan@localhost) by millennianet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12.950904.SGI) id LAA10833; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:26:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Henry Chan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: INND1.4UNOFF4 on 960323-SNAP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running the 1.4unoff4 distribution of innd on 960323-SNAP. The system used to crash about once every few days with either a kernel panic or just freeze without any sort of error messages on the screen (no keyboard response or anything, power cycle is the only way to get it to restart). Within the last two days, it has crashed every few hours. Maybe it has something to do with the amount of disk being used or something; but, it's definitely crashing more often than it used to. The hardware on the system is: Tyan Titan-II motherboard w/133MHz P5 Adaptec 2940UW w/2 4GB Seagate Barracuda Fast-Wide Barracudas ATI VGA Wonder (old; but, it was lying around doing nothing) SMC EtherPower 10/100 PCI 16MB RAM Sorry I can't be any more descriptive about the kernel panics...Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Henry -- Henry T. Chan MillenniaNet htchan@millennianet.com 9191 Towne Centre Drive, Suite 410 System/Network Administrator San Diego, CA 92122 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 11:56:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA16842 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (sarrazip@maggie.CS.McGill.CA [132.206.51.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA16837 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sarrazip@localhost) by maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) id OAA27895 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:55:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:55:51 -0400 From: Pierre Sarrazin Message-Id: <199605021855.OAA27895@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: vi and char code >=128 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. vi currently displays characters whose code is >= 128 in hexadecimal form instead of the character itself. (I'm using an xterm, but this also happens in a vt100 modem login.) I have recently installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-R; this problem didn't happen under my 2.0.5 system, at least in xterms. I couldn't find anything interesting in the vi manpage about this. How can I have those special characters displayed directly? Thanks... Pierre. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 12:09:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA17469 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17462 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA07686; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:08:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 12:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Chang To: Gabor Zahemszky cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: graphical characters? In-Reply-To: <199605020945.JAA02295@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 May 1996, Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > > > 2) If everything is garbled, it means that somebody send to the terminal > > > (or to the emulator) a Set Alternate character set sequence, so > > > try: > > > tput rmacs (ReMove Alternate Character Set), or > > > tput op > > > tput init > > > tput reset > > > reset > > > tput sgr0 > > > I think, one of these will work. > > > > It's everything is garbled but I remembered there was a way to do > > something with the Escape key to fix it but does anyone know how? > > > > Yes. You have to type this characters manually (rmacs/sgr0/...) > Eg: [m is sgr0 on a vt100 like terminal > Sometimes (B, or simply ^O > but you have to have a shell, which doesn't handle the control > characters inside (as in csh with set filec/tcsh/sh/ksh/bash in > line editing modes, etc ) Hmmm, so it's just ESC and then Ctrl-M? what key is (B? I remembered the people on irc used to say hit ESC and then a bunch of style typed in and then hit some ctrl-key combination.... I remembered I was able to do this in csh and tcsh... Richard From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 12:56:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA21256 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.nybc.org (server.nybc.org [192.94.249.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21251 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccmail.nybc.org (ccmail [192.94.249.20]) by server.nybc.org (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA13030 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 15:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccMail by ccmail.nybc.org (SMTPLINK V2.11 PreRelease 4) id AA831077745; Thu, 02 May 96 15:53:02 EST Date: Thu, 02 May 96 15:53:02 EST From: "Ekrem Gashi" Encoding: 17 Text Message-Id: <9604028310.AA831077745@ccmail.nybc.org> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dual Processer Support Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am interested installing unix operating system, which I like to use as a server and like to load Oracle DB. I have dual processor 120MHz 2.00GB disk, 24MB RAM. I am debating which operating system I shall use. Now I have NT, but I won to install unix. I was tolled that Linux does not support dual processing. Pleas let me know any infos you mid have on FreeBSD. Thanks Gashi From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 13:11:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA22100 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougal.compnews.co.uk (dougal.compnews.co.uk [144.178.163.80]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22093 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dougal.compnews.co.uk by dougal.compnews.co.uk via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406.SGI) for id VAA24582; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:11:14 +0100 Message-ID: <318916E2.41C6@padd.press.net> Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 21:11:14 +0100 From: Adam Greenwood Organization: PA Data Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Specific questions about FreeBSD X-URL: http://www.freebsd.com/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, As a Software Developer setting up on my own, I'm currently trying to decide between FreeBSD and Linux for the PC I'll be using. I've checked the hardware compatibility lists, and all looks well there apart from perhaps the graphics card - I have a Diamond Stealth card, but they seem fairly popular so I imagine it will be fine. I'd much prefer to use FreeBSD, as I'm a SunOs 4.1.2 user at the moment, and have heard good things about FreeBSD from people who have tried both. So, if you could answer a couple of questions for me, hopefully I'll be ready to go with it. - Will FreeBSD allow the PC to be easily booted in either Windows '95 or FreeBSD? I will unfortunately have to use Win 95 for a few things. - Will FreeBSD happily mount a Windows '95 drive, long filenames and all (cos I know I can't hope for it to work the other way around). - Is there a source for advice on partitioning the PC hard drive for a Windows '95 and FreeBSD system? If I had more time to spare, I'd just get it and play, but things seem to be a bit of a rush at the moment. Any help you can give would be appreciated. Cheers, Adam. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |C| . Adam Greenwood, IS Engineering, PA Data Design . |C| |L| \o__. adamg@compnews.co.uk .__o> |L| |I| ,/\/ Voice: +44 1430 431100 \/\. |I| |M| \ Page: +44 0941 116885 \ |M| |B| ` These are all my own ramblings ` |B| ----------- URL - http://www.pa.press.net/people/adamg/ ------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 13:40:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA23910 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23900 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA02271; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:39:40 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605022039.NAA02271@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD To: drbeck@onramp.net (David R. Beck) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3188C81C.6ABD@onramp.net> from "David R. Beck" at May 2, 96 09:35:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm trying to decide between Linux and FreeBSD 2.1. What are the > differences, advantages/disadvantages of each? Does one make a better > Web server than the other. I suspect that this group is tired of hearing the "Linux vs. FreeBSD" debate (and my answer in particular). Here's the summary of my opinion: If you want to run a server (ftp, mail, web) and you want better security, closer adherence to BSD conventions and traditions (especially handy when you want an experienced consultant to help with configuration, upgrades or troubleshooting) go with FreeBSD. If you want to set up a PC as a workstation (primarily operated from the console, using things like sound cards, scanners, video capture board, and toys) and you want to play with the latest and "coolest" games and applications use Linux. From what I've read, heard, and seen FreeBSD has much more stable code (particularly in regards to its TCP/IP code) while Linux has an advantage in it's memory management which tends to offer better performance running applications from the console. > > I tried to pick up a copy of FreeBSD in the Dallas, Tx. area > today (called, called and drove). No luck! I found Linux everywhere. I > know I can order FreeBSD, but that's just the impatient person I am ;> > > The main reason I am considering FreeBSD is that I was very disappointed > with the lack of (or my inability to find) ppp connectivity in the > Slackware 2.2 with the 1.2.1 kernel. Slackware 2.2 is pretty old. Slackware 3.x, RedHat 3.03, Debian .9x are all better choices. > I didn't see any mention of this in your FAQ... > > Any comparison of Linux to FreeBSD would help. > Thanks in advance. > > David Beck > drbeck@onramp.net Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 13:43:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA24181 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24167 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA21588; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:46:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ray cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <199605021516.LAA12797@mailhost.intac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 May 1996, Ray wrote: > Does FreeBSD Supports IBM Token Ring adapters? Not that I know of. I think someone volunteered to write one though. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 13:47:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA24416 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24409 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA02327; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:46:29 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605022046.NAA02327@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Groups ; Setuid To: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com (Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605020519.BAA12169@mercury.interpath.com> from "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" at May 2, 96 01:19:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Ok, I first used BSD way back in 1981, but I've been wandering in the > land of the lost (sys5-ish systems) for many years now, and I don't > quite "get it" about permissions and BSD, so . . . > > > 1. I want to be able to su to root from my ID, but did not originally .... man su ; vi /etc/groups > > 2. I want to be able to setuid a "script" to root and have it jolly well .... Options: get sudo, man suidperl, write a C wrapper (about 10 lines which just does a system() to call your script) (note: the last one isn't anything like secure -- re: the others -- you mileage may vary) > > Sure, it's a security risk, but this is a home system; it just doesn't > need to be *that* secure. Or is there a better way to do this sort > of thing? > > -- > Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. > > "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other > account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon > Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 14:36:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA27260 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27255 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02448; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:35:58 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605022135.OAA02448@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Dual Processer Support To: Ekrem_Gashi@ccmail.nybc.org (Ekrem Gashi) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9604028310.AA831077745@ccmail.nybc.org> from "Ekrem Gashi" at May 2, 96 03:53:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I am interested installing unix operating system, which I like to use > as a server and like to load Oracle DB. I don't know of a FreeBSD port for Oracle. A quick search of their webpages reveals no hits for 'bsd' or 'linux'. So I suspect you'd have to run the SCO binaries under iBCS (and I don't know if that would work -- some binaries are linked against libraries that are proprietary to SCO). Another quick search -- this time of the Sybase pages reveals a Linux client and server package but nothing under 'bsd'. Granted these weren't exhaustive searchines (I didn't try wildards or verify that they can find substrings -- I just tried 'linux' 'freebsd' and 'bsd' in separate searches and glanced at the product lists). > > I have dual processor 120MHz 2.00GB disk, 24MB RAM. I suspect that any serious processing will use up all of that RAM long before you'll benefit from the addtion processor -- particularly in db applications (which are usually much more disk and memory intensive then processor bound). Consider tripling the RAM (at least). > I am debating which operating system I shall use. Now I have NT, but I > won to install unix. We want to recommend Unix (at least I do). However I can't always do so with a clear conscience -- sometimes it simply isn't the answer. What's your applications. > > I was tolled that Linux does not support dual processing. It might not be nearly as important as you think. However there are groups working on SMP (symmetrical multi-processor) support for Linux. I'm not sure about the Free/Net/OpenBSD camps. If you find that you application really is this processor and/or I/O intensive -- and it's worth any money to keep it running (i.e. you'll be paying dozens or hundreds of employees to "work with" or "wait for" it) then you may want to perform a cost-benefit analysis for buying a Sparc station, or an RS/6000 (much as I like SGI's I don't see them with a big share of the db server market any time in the near term). > > Pleas let me know any infos you mid have on FreeBSD. Have you checked out the web pages? (http://www.freebsd.org). > > Thanks > Gashi In conclusion I would say that you should look at this with a couple of thoughts in mind: What are you really trying to do and why? What resources do you have (or can you get)? Do you think you are qualified to make the purchasing and implementation decisions, and/or do the requisite research yourself or should you hire a consultant? If this is just a home system and your just playing around with this to build up your experience and put a few extra bullets on the resume -- then most of what I've said is irrelevant. If you have any business at stake then I suspect (given the nature of your questions) that you'll want to bring in someone who's far more qualified than me to recommend a solution. Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 14:37:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA27311 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27303 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA17598; Thu, 2 May 1996 15:36:50 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:36:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cyrix 6x86 chips? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody have any comments on running FreeBSD (or any OS at that) on a Cyrix 6x86 120mhz chip? I am considering purchasing one, but I am wary as I am constantly hearing of slightly non-standard behaviour from Cyrix and AMD chips. Is it founded or not? Does FreeBSD work with it? -Brandon Gillespie- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 14:51:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA28915 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28910 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA00977; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:22:19 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605022152.HAA00977@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? To: mac@nibsc.ac.uk Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 07:22:18 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, angio@aros.net, steve@gordian.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605021202.NAA04591@chalsig.nibsc.ac.uk> from "mac@nibsc.ac.uk" at May 2, 96 01:02:41 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk mac@nibsc.ac.uk stands accused of saying: > > > >Unless something drastic has happened in the last few months, there are > >_no_ decent P6 motherboards generally available. The 'Alder' chassis > >is a special Intel Server Group product, and is AFAIK not generally > >available. > > IIRC ftp.cdrom.com (the busiest site on the 'net for ftp) uses FreeBSD on a > PentiumPro. Any one know what their m/board is? Sheesh. That's what the message I was just replying to was all about. ftp.cdrom.com is an Intel 'Alder' chassis. It's based on the Orion 'set, with the PCI-posted-write bug worked around. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 14:52:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA29097 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29092 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02491; Thu, 2 May 1996 14:52:19 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605022152.OAA02491@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Specific questions about FreeBSD To: adamg@padd.press.net (Adam Greenwood) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <318916E2.41C6@padd.press.net> from "Adam Greenwood" at May 2, 96 09:11:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Greetings, > > As a Software Developer setting up on my own, I'm currently trying > to decide between FreeBSD and Linux for the PC I'll be using. I've > checked the hardware compatibility lists, and all looks well there > apart from perhaps the graphics card - I have a Diamond Stealth > card, but they seem fairly popular so I imagine it will be fine. > > I'd much prefer to use FreeBSD, as I'm a SunOs 4.1.2 user at the > moment, and have heard good things about FreeBSD from people who > have tried both. So, if you could answer a couple of questions > for me, hopefully I'll be ready to go with it. > > - Will FreeBSD allow the PC to be easily booted in either > Windows '95 or FreeBSD? I will unfortunately have to use > Win 95 for a few things. Yes (for highly variable values of "easily"). > - Will FreeBSD happily mount a Windows '95 drive, long filenames > and all (cos I know I can't hope for it to work the other way > around). Not that I know of. Linux adds 'VFAT' (Win '95 long file name) support in the later 1.3.x kernels). > - Is there a source for advice on partitioning the PC hard drive > for a Windows '95 and FreeBSD system? Readme's & docs, newsgroups and mailing lists. > > If I had more time to spare, I'd just get it and play, but things > seem to be a bit of a rush at the moment. Adam, You can support all three (Linux, FreeBSD, and Win '95) on one system. Get a couple of removable drive racks (IDE or SCSI) and you can support as many OS as you like with far fewer headaches. Better yet -- find an extra machine -- configure one as a Linux or FreeBSD system (server) and the other as your Windows box. Run ethernet (and/or even a null modem) between them. Now run you favorite telnet and/or terminal programs and/or any X server software for Win '95 and you can have the best of both worlds. It's always struck me as a shame to set up *ix on a laptop or on a system where you're frequently shutting the system down. Some of the really neat things you can do with *ix rely on it's cron and at functions, and its suitability as an applications *server*. Servers should be *up* as much of the time as possible. In addition running your boxes in a networked environment (at home) will keep you much closer to the issues that your businesss customers face. My home network is basically a lab. Having the Linux box up and running all the time allows me to have dial in access, and automated mail fetching in addition to local job scheduling. Also any sort of CGI or Java development should be tested through a network link before you try to install in at a client site. Likewise for any client/server database or applications development (which I venture a guess is the large bulk of the custom programming market these days). Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 15:09:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA00214 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 15:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00202 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 15:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA02548; Thu, 2 May 1996 15:07:50 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605022207.PAA02548@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: simple install questions To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, craigh@bugsoft.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605020421.NAA27563@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at May 2, 96 01:51:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Jim Dennis stands accused of saying: > > > > I've heard (but have yet to test) that you can use > > LOADLIN.EXE to load a FreeBSD kernel. This is a DOS program > > Why bother when FBSDBOOT is on the CDrom and the FTP sites? It does > basically the same thing, and suffers from the same problems with > memory managers 8( What problems? LOADLIN works with EMM386 and QEMM (and claims VCPI compatibility). It also works as a SHELL= directive in your CONFIG.SYS (handy with the various DOS multi-boot, interactive CONFIG.SYS packages -- like the ones in DOS 6.x and later). If FBSDBOOT has problems with this configurations -- someone might want to steal LOADLIN (it's GPL as far as I know). All of by FreeBSD machines are servers so I don't bother with multi-boot on them. > > Jim Dennis From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 15:52:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA03024 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 15:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03018 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 15:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA00907; Thu, 2 May 96 22:52:18 GMT Message-Id: <9605022252.AA00907@fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA284387538; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:52:18 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:52:18 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: blewis@vet.vet.purdue.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604300441.XAA17509@localhost> (message from Benjamin Lewis on Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:41:41 -0500) Subject: Re: Setting up a network at home Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Benjamin" == Benjamin Lewis writes: Benjamin> I've been running FreeBSD on my machine at home for Benjamin> quite a while. I have it connected to the internet Benjamin> through user PPP -> SLiRP, and I'm tremendously happy Benjamin> with it. Excellent. Not surprisingly, I have a similar setup through my employer ... luckily, they're nice enough to let me keep the connection going constantly. Benjamin> I plan on purchasing another (more powerful) computer Benjamin> and installing FreeBSD on that too. That's my plan as well, although I'll probably get a less powerful computer as well. (We used to have one and did serial IP between the two hosts but it old system died.) My wife and I need a system we can dedicate to the internet connection and our home automation project without having to shut it down to use Quicken under DOS/Windows. Plus, my wife's demanded a system for her desk---and that one will likely be a more powerful one than our current system. Benjamin> Naturally, having two network-capable machines in the Benjamin> same house just begs for a little in-home net of my own. You said it. We're making plans for such a setup. Benjamin> I've played around with this sort of thing using various Benjamin> friends' and family members' notebook computers and a Benjamin> serial connection, but I'm feeling a bit more ambitious Benjamin> now and would like to set up an ethernet connection Benjamin> between the computers. Yes, Ethernet is definitely the way to go in the home, either over 10base2 or 10baseT. 10base2 is cheaper, but 10baseT is easier to work with (supposedly) and more modern---hence, more you'll be likely to find compatible components in the future. Benjamin> I've read various man pages, Handbook entries, FAQ's and Benjamin> even Linux How-To's, and that allowed me to do the kind Benjamin> of half-*ssed networking that I've done to this point. Benjamin> This time, I'd like to "Do It Right," but I just don't Benjamin> know *exactly everything* that is required. I've never Benjamin> worked with ethernet, so I'm pretty clueless in that Benjamin> area. I haven't worked with Ethernet since I was a systems administrator about three years ago, but I'm hoping that through man pages and a foggy memory that I'll have enough to do it again. You're more than welcome to call on me any time for questions, etc. I can share my own experiences with you as I have them, if you wish. Benjamin> This is kind of a "vanity" thing, so I thought I'd make Benjamin> it a little more complex than absolutely necessary in Benjamin> order to learn a bit more about this stuff. I know what you mean. I'd like to be able to be the first on the block with an in-home LAN. Benjamin> host1: Gateway PPP : 10.0.2.15 ether: 10.0.2.16 (I Benjamin> understand that I need a separate IP number for this, Benjamin> correct?) Correct. Benjamin> I thought I'd run a little name server on host1 so that Benjamin> Win95 will be able to use hostnames instead of IP Benjamin> numbers to refer to local hosts. I think a nameserver is overkill for two-node network. What's worse, it requires coordination with your service provider ... they have to be willing to route to your domain or provide a subdomain under their domain. If you get your own domain name, then you have to pay a $50 yearly maintenance fee to the InterNIC. Benjamin> Does Win95 have an equivalent to /etc/hosts that would Benjamin> eliminate this need? If it does, I'd use it. When you get 20 or so hosts, then I'd go for a nameserver. Benjamin> I'm interested in finding out what the various config Benjamin> files should look like, i.e. /etc/hosts, /etc/named/*, Benjamin> whatever else needs to be changed. And don't forget /etc/sysconfig. /etc/hosts on both host1 and host2 should contain two entries for host1, listing both addresses: 10.0.2.15 host1-gw 10.0.2.16 host1 10.0.2.17 host2 You an leave /etc/named/* all alone. Let's see, in /etc/sysconfig for host1, you need to add the Ethernet interface to the ``network_interfaces'' line and add an ifconfig_ entry for the interface. For example, with a Lance ethernet interface and /usr/sbin/ppp: tcp_extensions=YES network_interfaces="lo0 tun0 le0" ifconfig_le0="inet 10.0.2.16 netmask 0xffffff00" defaultrouter=NO routedflags=NO namedflags="NO" gateway=YES You'll also need to compile your kernel for host1 with options GATEWAY in the config file. On host2, you won't need the GATEWAY option. Its /etc/sysconfig should have tcp_extensions=YES network_interfaces="lo0 le0" ifconfig_le0="inet 10.0.2.17 netmask 0xffffff00" defaultrouter=10.0.2.16 routedflags=NO namedflags="NO" gateway=NO Benjamin> The Handbook is pretty clear about /etc/printcap,o Thanks ... I wrote that part! ;-) Benjamin> From what I've read so far, it looks like 10 Base-2 Benjamin> cabling is the way to go for an el-cheapo net like this Benjamin> one. Probably, but again consider the future. If you move into a new house, it's pretty cheap to get category-5 wired all around to each of the rooms and into some 66-punch down blocks in the basement/wiring closet. Here, you can install a 10baseT hub, terminal server, and gateway system, etc. and still have room to expand. And then the network admin at work is saying he'd like to try out CIDR (classless Internet domain routing) with me ... now I have to learn what that's all about! Take care. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 16:28:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA04890 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA04868 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA01228; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:00:14 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605022330.JAA01228@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Specific questions about FreeBSD To: adamg@padd.press.net (Adam Greenwood) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:00:13 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <318916E2.41C6@padd.press.net> from "Adam Greenwood" at May 2, 96 09:11:14 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Adam Greenwood stands accused of saying: > > As a Software Developer setting up on my own, I'm currently trying > to decide between FreeBSD and Linux for the PC I'll be using. I've > checked the hardware compatibility lists, and all looks well there > apart from perhaps the graphics card - I have a Diamond Stealth > card, but they seem fairly popular so I imagine it will be fine. Diamond saw the error of their ways about a year or so ago and have since been willing supporters of free software. > I'd much prefer to use FreeBSD, as I'm a SunOs 4.1.2 user at the > moment, and have heard good things about FreeBSD from people who > have tried both. So, if you could answer a couple of questions > for me, hopefully I'll be ready to go with it. > > - Will FreeBSD allow the PC to be easily booted in either > Windows '95 or FreeBSD? I will unfortunately have to use > Win 95 for a few things. Yes. Install W95 first, as it's prone to wanting to think that it's the only OS on your machine 8( > - Will FreeBSD happily mount a Windows '95 drive, long filenames > and all (cos I know I can't hope for it to work the other way > around). Yes it will mount them, but the long filenames are not currently supported. The FAT filesystem support in FreeBSD is somewhat vintage and rather buggy; it's currently being rewritten from scratch. For general get stuff from/ put stuff to operations, it seems to work OK however. > - Is there a source for advice on partitioning the PC hard drive > for a Windows '95 and FreeBSD system? The book 'Installing FreeBSD' which is shipped with the FreeBSD CDrom from Walnut Creek is full of useful advice and detailed instructions. It was produced with plenty of consultation with the developers and the user community, and should go a long way to answering your questions. > Adam. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 16:28:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA04908 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deutsch.com ([199.2.21.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04903 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nca-p133 (macneal.deutsch.com) by deutsch.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29745; Thu, 2 May 96 16:27:56 PDT Date: Thu, 2 May 96 16:27:56 PDT Message-Id: <9605022327.AA29745@deutsch.com> X-Sender: sj@frodo X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Stephanie Johnson Subject: Comaptability Question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Although you list Adaptec 2940 as a compatible device.....Does this include the Ultra wide variety? If you don't support a IDE CD ROM installation-do you support a SONY CDRom? Stephanie Johnson Phone: (415) 390-8510 System Administrator, Deutsch Research EMail: sj@deutsch.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 16:30:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA05034 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05023 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA01248; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:02:13 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605022332.JAA01248@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: simple install questions To: jimd@mistery.mcafee.com (Jim Dennis) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:02:12 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, craigh@bugsoft.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605022207.PAA02548@mistery.mcafee.com> from "Jim Dennis" at May 2, 96 03:07:49 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Dennis stands accused of saying: > > > > Why bother when FBSDBOOT is on the CDrom and the FTP sites? It does > > basically the same thing, and suffers from the same problems with > > memory managers 8( > > What problems? > > LOADLIN works with EMM386 and QEMM (and claims VCPI compatibility). > It also works as a SHELL= directive in your CONFIG.SYS (handy with > the various DOS multi-boot, interactive CONFIG.SYS packages -- like > the ones in DOS 6.x and later). Ah. Pleasant news - the last LOADLIN I'd had anything to do with was a while back, and someone told me the developer had given up on it. If this is the case, them the FBSDBOOT author should be stealing techniques to deal with memory managers from it 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 16:35:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA05433 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guarany.cpd.unb.br (guarany.cpd.unb.br [164.41.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05396 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.linf.unb.br by guarany.cpd.unb.br (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24958; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:29:49 -0300 Received: from LTH.cr-df.rnp.br (ppp4.cr-df.rnp.br) by antares.linf.unb.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03196; Thu, 2 May 96 20:34:23 WST Message-Id: <318961E3.425@linf.unb.br> Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 20:31:15 -0500 From: "Alex Carlos Braga Ant\co" Organization: UnB - Universidade de Brasília X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBsd - USA Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe freebsd-questions Alex Antao From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 16:36:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA05476 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05462 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chico (ix-oly-wa2-14.ix.netcom.com [205.184.155.78]) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA19296; Thu, 2 May 1996 16:32:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3188CB9A.61E5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 15:50:02 +0100 From: "Daniel P. Pflager" Organization: Universal Bankcard Software, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: dpflag@ix.netcom.com Subject: 3-COM Impact Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Has anyone had any experiences using a 3-Com impact with dynamic PPP. I'm particularly interested in dial strings, S registers etc. I have had a small amount of success, but I don't seem to be able to get full speed out of the thing. Actually, it seems always to deliver 28.8, which makes me think I am getting the built-in modem feature or something. Also, although my provider says they support multi-ppp, I've not been able to get it on the go. Thanks in Advance, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 17:11:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA07132 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07123 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA01377; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:42:49 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605030012.JAA01377@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: RS232C: how can I control rts/cts dtr/dsr? To: eeg@telecom.at (Franz Hollerer) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:42:48 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605021605.SAA68123@pina1> from "Franz Hollerer" at May 2, 96 06:09:21 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Franz Hollerer stands accused of saying: > > Hi, > > I have a little problem and so I home that someone can help me: > > I have to write a program which misuses the hanshake lines of a > rs232c. > Can I do this from an user process or must I go into the kernel? If the sio driver hasn't taken the UART, you can do whatever you like from user space. Open /dev/io and poke away. > Thanks, > Franz > > EEG, Hard&Software Development > Austria > We have no kangaroos. We do. Nyaah! -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 17:13:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA07217 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07208 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA01392; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:44:34 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605030014.JAA01392@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Real-Time Processes To: eeg@telecom.at (Franz Hollerer) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:44:33 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605021605.SAA51255@pina1> from "Franz Hollerer" at May 2, 96 06:09:21 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Franz Hollerer stands accused of saying: > > I have a little problem and so I hope that someone > can help me. > > 1) Does FreeBSD support Real-Time Processes? Sort of. 'man rtprio' > 2) If yes, what is the respond time in worst case (<20ms?). > I plan to use a 486DX-33, 16MB running X11 and > a few non critical applications. That depends on lots of factors. Particularly, response to _what_? > 3) Where can I find further informations? /usr/src/*, or keep asking questions 8) > Franz -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 17:15:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA07334 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07329 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delphi.gordian.com (delphi.gordian.com [192.73.220.125]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.4/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA24974; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by delphi.gordian.com (8.7.2/8.6.9) id RAA04476; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605030014.RAA04476@delphi.gordian.com> From: Steve Khoo To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au CC: agifford@infowest.com, angio@aros.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605020919.SAA29510@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> (message from Michael Smith on Thu, 2 May 1996 18:49:50 +0930 (CST)) Subject: Re: Any Pentium Pro MB recommendations? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Smith writes: Michael> Dave Andersen stands accused of saying: >> >> See: >> >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/wcarchive.configuration >> >> Which basically says: >> >> Alder SMP motherboard, Orion Chipset, a 150Mhz pentium pro. Given >> wcarchive's performance, it's a pretty solid contender. Michael> DO NOT BE MISLED by other boards with the 'Orion' Michael> chipset. Most suffer from the PCI-posted-write bug and Michael> will perform _AWFULLY_. Michael> Unless something drastic has happened in the last few Michael> months, there are _no_ decent P6 motherboards generally Michael> available. The 'Alder' chassis is a special Intel Server Michael> Group product, and is AFAIK not generally available. >> -Dave Andersen Michael> -- Hmmm... From all the responses I got so far it sounds like I should wait till Alder MB's become available to the general public. SEK From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 17:39:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA08086 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utgard.bga.com (utgard.bga.com [205.238.129.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08081 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from faulkner@localhost) by utgard.bga.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA05473 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:39:02 -0459 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605030038.TAA05473@utgard.bga.com> Subject: dlopen and stuff To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:39:02 -0459 (CDT) From: "Boyd R. Faulkner" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to port regina (REXX) to FreeBSD. It supports loadable libraries via the dlopen mechanism. I can dlopen the lib. dlsym returns the address and runs but the lib code calls functions in a statically linked lib linked to the executable calling the dynamic lib. This works on a sun. Can it work here? Thanks, Boyd -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner "The fates lead him who will; faulkner@asgard.bga.com Him who won't, they drag." http://asgard.bga.com/~faulkner Old Roman Saying -- Source: Joseph Campbell _____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 17:55:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA08800 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA08795 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05387; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:52:47 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA00239; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Nicholson Message-Id: <199605030455.AAA00239@justine.elastica.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xterm problems.. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anybody explain this.. justine# df zsh: command not found: miqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqd justine% df zsh: command not found: fd justine# df zsh: command not found: fd justine% df zsh: command not found: fd justine# ls zsh: command not found: fl justine% telnet zsh: command not found: stle justine# ftp zsh: command not found: t justine# blablabla zsh: command not found: lbal justine# Note: it's not interpreting the command correctly.. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 18:18:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA10046 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vent.pipex.net (root@vent.pipex.net [158.43.128.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10038 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dial.pipex.com by vent.pipex.net (8.6.12/PIPEX simple 1.20) id CAA10675; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:18:38 +0100 Received: (from jraynard@localhost) by dial.pipex.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA05064; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:44:28 GMT Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 23:44:28 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199605022344.XAA05064@dial.pipex.com> To: imdave@synet.net CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com In-reply-to: <199605020324.WAA27900@base486> (message from Dave Bodenstab on Wed, 1 May 1996 22:24:55 -0500) Subject: Re: Disassembler anyone? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Dave Bodenstab writes: > > Does anyone know of a stand-alone disassembler > for FreeBSD? Not that I know of - but the 'disassemble' command works in GDB. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 18:19:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA10084 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vent.pipex.net (root@vent.pipex.net [158.43.128.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10078 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dial.pipex.com by vent.pipex.net (8.6.12/PIPEX simple 1.20) id CAA10682; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:18:50 +0100 Received: (from jraynard@localhost) by dial.pipex.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA05182; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:07:55 GMT Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:07:55 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199605030007.AAA05182@dial.pipex.com> To: sshankar@waterloo.border.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <96May2.125705edt.36865@dionysus.waterloo.border.com> (message from Sanjeev Shankar on Thu, 2 May 1996 14:00:36 -0400) Subject: Re: bsd.port.mk Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Sanjeev Shankar writes: > > Hi, > I'vw downloaded the 'workman' port & am tryinh to compile on a > NetBSD machine which does not have the bsd.port.mk file. Where > can I find this file ( and any other required and supporting file)?? The *.mk files live in /usr/share/mk - you may need most of them as they seem to like including each other. I've no idea if they'd work without alteration on a NetBSD machine, it's too late at night to look at that sort of thing 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 18:29:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA10786 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.pmr.com (luke.pmr.com [206.224.65.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10780 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.pmr.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA12989 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:29:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Willcox Message-Id: <199605030129.UAA12989@luke.pmr.com> Subject: Email to neighbor uucp sites via sendmail?? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:29:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all you sendmail gurus, I have a system which hosts three uucp sites that would like for me to provide email service to them. Unfortunately, being sendmail imparied, I don't know even where to begin to coax sendmail into doing this. I have read through the O'Reily book and have looked through the src/usr.sbin/sendmail/cf directory but still seem to be missing something fundamental. My system is running 2.1-stable and has a dedicated Internet connection in addition to the uucp connections. If someone could forward me a working example m4 sendmail configuration file that does something like I want to do I would be most grateful. Thanks, -- Bob Willcox bob@luke.pmr.com Austin, TX From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 18:47:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA11862 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xi.dorm.umd.edu (root@xi.dorm.umd.edu [129.2.152.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11857 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 18:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xi.dorm.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA04521; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:47:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Sujal Patel X-Sender: smpatel@xi.dorm.umd.edu To: Brad Erlwein cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sound blaster question In-Reply-To: <199605021524.JAA05595@ra.nilenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 May 1996, Brad Erlwein wrote: > Is there support for the SOund Blaster AWE32? The card is supported for dsp stuff. Wavetable support is not currently available. Sujal From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 19:18:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA13385 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digital.netvoyage.net (root@digital.netvoyage.net [205.162.154.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA13380 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bogawa@localhost) by digital.netvoyage.net (8.6.13/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA21375; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:17:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Ogawa at Work To: Robert Nicholson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: sharedactive w/ INN (was Re: shmget()) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 30 Apr 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote: > Doug White writes: > > Just out of interest... > > Does the sharedactive patch work with INN under FreeBSD? [...] Yes, it does, and pretty well. Brian Tao also has it running, I believe, as may Joe Greco (sp?). I had problems kicking up the values for the sharedactives correctly, so I ended up dumping that stuff altogether and running the following in my config file: options SYSVSHM #options "SHMMAXPGS=4096" # 4096kb (?) of sharable memory options SYSVSEM # enable for semaphores options SYSVMSG # enable for messaging Note that I commented out the SHMMAXPGS option--i was having problems figuring out the right size, so I got rid of it and it worked much better (the number off to the side is very wrong, I'm pretty sure). Note that the patch, I believe, defaults to presuming that you have < 15000 groups. Since this is only debatably true if you carry everything (e.g. lots and lots of regionals), you may need to change this. At the moment, on our server: news# wc -l /usr/local/news/lib/active 17316 /usr/local/news/lib/active and that works fine. Our machine really benefits from the sharedactive patches. Just today we had 50-60 readers on a 64 Meg machine, with what appears to be plenty of RAM left. bryan Bryan K. Ogawa Questions or Problems with NetVoyage? help@netvoyage.net Check out the NetVoyage HelpWeb at.. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 19:24:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA13727 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13716 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02155; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:54:50 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605030224.LAA02155@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Comaptability Question To: sj@deutsch.com (Stephanie Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:54:49 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9605022327.AA29745@deutsch.com> from "Stephanie Johnson" at May 2, 96 04:27:56 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Stephanie Johnson stands accused of saying: > Although you list Adaptec 2940 as a compatible device.....Does this > include the Ultra wide variety? Why wouldn't it? Yes, the U and UW controllers are supported. > If you don't support a IDE CD ROM installation-do you support a SONY CDRom? Which Sony CD? There are IDE, SCSI and proprietary Sony interfaces., The SCSI and proprietary interface versions are both supported. > Stephanie Johnson -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 20:28:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA17753 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digital.netvoyage.net (root@digital.netvoyage.net [205.162.154.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17743 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bogawa@localhost) by digital.netvoyage.net (8.6.13/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA26944 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:28:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:28:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Ogawa at Work To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading 2.0.5 systems to 2.1-STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm beginning to seriously think about upgraing a 2.0.5-R system to 2.1-STABLE (and fix a number of rather annoying design decisions made by others (and by me) when we were young and foolish). Does anyone have any recommendations or hints on doing this? I have a number of questions about this process: 1. Does it make sense to upgrade to 2.1-RELEASE before going to 2.1-STABLE? I presume this will be the big transition, since if I were to get 2.1-RELEASE running, I could install the -stable tree and make world. 2. I have machines which don't have the space for a source tree on their drives and machines that do. How easy would it be to upgrade the small ones by copying over files from the big ones? 3. Does anyone have any documentation on making this move? Thank you. bryan Bryan K. Ogawa Questions or Problems with NetVoyage? help@netvoyage.net Check out the NetVoyage HelpWeb at.. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 20:40:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA19072 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA19055 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snake.iwan.org (dyn1092a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.92]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id KAA06498; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:40:14 +0700 (WIB) Message-ID: <31897F15.57AE@rad.net.id> Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 10:35:49 +0700 From: Riwan Organization: SKD X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Iwan Leonardus wrote: > > > I have a motherboard Tritron which have a mouse port on board > > You need to enable the PS/2 mouse driver. > > >From the FAQ: > > 4.7. I have a PS/2 mouse (``keyboard'' mouse) (Alternatively: I have a > laptop with a track-ball mouse). How do I use it? > > You'll have to add the following lines to your kernel configuration file > and recompile: > > device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr > # Options for psm: > options PSM_NO_RESET #don't reset mouse hardware (some laptops) > > See configuring the kernel if you've no experience with building kernels. > > Once you have a kernel detecting psm0 correctly at boot time, make sure > that an entry for psm0 exists in /dev. You can do this by typing: > > cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV psm0 > > When logged in as root. > > Note: Some PS/2 mouse controllers have a problem where the presence of > the psm0 driver will cause the keyboard to lock up (which is why this > driver is not present by default in the GENERIC kernel). This can > sometimes be fixed by bouncing the NumLock key during the boot process. > Also suggest going into CMOS setup and toggling any value for Numlock > On/Off at boot time. The real fix is, of course, to merge the PS/2 mouse > driver with syscons. Any volunteers? :) > > Doug White | University of OregonWell, I have did that all at my Triton motherboard (the kernel reconfigure and compile) but the kernel didn't detect psm0 at boot time, it said: psm0: not found at 0x60 At the other computer I have (HP Vectra) it said: psm0: at 0x60-0x63 irq 12 on motherboard The Window 95 detect my PS/2 mouse port correctly at Triton I don't know how the PS/2 mouse port is working, maybe I need to read books about that to figure out what is the problem :( I hope somebody can help:) Iwan L From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 22:29:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA28677 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.interpath.com (babbleon@mercury.interpath.com [199.72.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA28665 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from babbleon@localhost) by mercury.interpath.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA13737 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:29:02 -0400 From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Message-Id: <199605030529.BAA13737@mercury.interpath.com> Subject: Re: groups, perms: thanks! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 01:29:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, one and all. I've got groups and permissions working just the way I want them. It's better than the "Linux way" I was used to. I expected it would be once I figured it out. BTW, the responsiveness of this list is just amazing. Thanks, to everyone who's helped me with all the questions I've had lately as I set up my FreeBSD system. -- Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 22:38:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA29684 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29667 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA02890 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:10:37 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605030540.PAA02890@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: New 0501 SNAP in australia anywhere? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:10:37 +0930 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hiho people; Just looking for anyone that's managed to get the new SNAP into Australia - ftp.au.freebsd.org has bits of it, but bin/* are missing. The link to ftp.cdrom.com is a bit on the spagged side at the moment, and I was hoping to get it installed this afternoon 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 22:44:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA00865 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.tio.com (root@[206.135.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00859 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from killa (lines-pm1.tio.com [206.135.126.221]) by ns.tio.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA01255 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:53:09 -0700 Message-ID: <31899D14.4EF3@tio.com> Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 22:43:48 -0700 From: kam X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering if i could run FreeBsd, (BSD) with Windows 95... so i could get a little of both, Unix and Win 95.. are they compatible? Thanx kam@tio.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 2 23:54:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA05244 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05232 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA22702; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:53:01 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:53:00 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: Andrew cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP addresses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 May 1996, Andrew wrote: > This depends on how your IP addresses are allocated...are you saying: > > 1) your box has an IP number and knows what it is - but you (the user) > dosn't know it. > > or > > 2) your box has an IP number but it (the machine) and you (the user) > dosn't know what it is? number 2 is what i mean: it probably has an IP somewhere but i dunno and i can't find out using DOS software because there ain't no networking software installed. i dunno who's the sysad for this LAN and i don't wanna find out, this is not exactly an official project i'm doing... XXX Ivan From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 01:19:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA10711 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA10700 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uFG3S-000QYIC; Fri, 3 May 96 10:17 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA07291; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:07:29 +0200 Message-Id: <199605030807.KAA07291@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: xterm problems.. To: robert@elastica.com (Robert Nicholson) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:07:28 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605030455.AAA00239@justine.elastica.com> from "Robert Nicholson" at May 3, 96 00:55:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Nicholson writes: > > Can anybody explain this.. > > justine# df > zsh: command not found: miqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqmiqd > justine% df > zsh: command not found: fd > justine# df > zsh: command not found: fd > justine% df > zsh: command not found: fd > justine# ls > zsh: command not found: fl > justine% telnet > zsh: command not found: stle > justine# ftp > zsh: command not found: t > justine# blablabla > zsh: command not found: lbal > justine# Are those prompts really correct (sometimes justine#, sometimes justine%)? That's your clue. Somehow you have two shells running, and each is getting a character at a time. The result is nonsense. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 01:19:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA10735 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA10718 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA15531 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:19:14 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199605031019.KAA15531@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: atapi-cdrom as master To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:19:13 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Last week I got my atapi-cdrom-drive and had some problems with my FreesBSD-2.1R . The kernel detected the drive only as slave on the IDE-port. Unfortunately with this configuration (disk master, cdrom slave) the disk transfer slows down by a factor of 2. So I had a look into the source of wd.c and voila, a few changes to wd.c made the cdrom-drive working on the second IDE-port as master drive ! Here is the patchfile (hopefully not only working for me) : ---------- cut here and copy to wd.c.patch ----------------------------- *** wd.c.ori Fri May 3 08:16:31 1996 --- wd.c Fri May 3 08:44:31 1996 *************** *** 480,500 **** } else { free(du, M_TEMP); wddrives[lunit] = NULL; ! } ! } #ifdef ATAPI ! /* ! * Probe all free IDE units, searching for ATAPI drives. ! */ ! for (unit=0; unit<2; ++unit) { ! for (lunit=0; lunitdk_ctrlr == dvp->id_unit && ! wddrives[lunit]->dk_unit == unit) ! goto next; atapi_attach (dvp->id_unit, unit, dvp->id_iobase, &kdc_wdc[dvp->id_unit]); - next: } #endif /* * Discard any interrupts generated by wdgetctlr(). wdflushirq() * doesn't work now because the ambient ipl is too high. --- 480,496 ---- } else { free(du, M_TEMP); wddrives[lunit] = NULL; ! ! /* included werner@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (29.4.1996) */ #ifdef ATAPI ! /* no disk !, search for ATAPI drive */ atapi_attach (dvp->id_unit, unit, dvp->id_iobase, &kdc_wdc[dvp->id_unit]); #endif + + } + } + /* * Discard any interrupts generated by wdgetctlr(). wdflushirq() * doesn't work now because the ambient ipl is too high. ----- then do a "patch < wd.c.patch" and recompile the kernel ----------- This should also work in STABLE (the wd.c is the same as in Release) Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 01:20:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA10810 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ritsec3.com.eg (RITSEC3.COM.EG [163.121.2.103]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA10784 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: eissatrd@ritsec3.com.eg Received: by ritsec3.com.eg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29260; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:19:07 +0300 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:19:07 +0300 Message-Id: <9605030819.AA29260@ritsec3.com.eg> To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3.7 BETA X-Personal_Name: Samy Tahan Subject: final snap Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk when i tried to use the final snapshot i found 2 boot one for the 4MB and the other is not. I have 5MB So which one should i use. thanks for your concerning. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 01:25:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA11236 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11220 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 01:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA04112; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:57:23 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605030827.RAA04112@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: IP addresses To: s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (HMG coA reductase) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:57:22 +0930 (CST) Cc: root@flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "HMG coA reductase" at May 3, 96 04:53:00 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HMG coA reductase stands accused of saying: > > > > 2) your box has an IP number but it (the machine) and you (the user) > > dosn't know what it is? > > number 2 is what i mean: it probably has an IP somewhere but i dunno and > i can't find out using DOS software because there ain't no networking If there's no network software installed, why would the machine have an IP? > software installed. i dunno who's the sysad for this LAN and i don't > wanna find out, this is not exactly an official project i'm doing... Aha. And I bet it has nothing to do with FreeBSD either. > Ivan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 02:29:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA15059 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15026 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA01003; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:28:35 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (JAA02310); Fri, 3 May 1996 09:48:07 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605030948.JAA02310@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: graphical characters? To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Chang) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 09:48:06 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Chang" at May 2, 96 12:08:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Yes. You have to type this characters manually (rmacs/sgr0/...) > > Eg: [m is sgr0 on a vt100 like terminal > > Sometimes (B, or simply ^O > > but you have to have a shell, which doesn't handle the control > > characters inside (as in csh with set filec/tcsh/sh/ksh/bash in > > line editing modes, etc ) > > Hmmm, so it's just ESC and then Ctrl-M? what key is (B? I > remembered the people on irc used to say hit ESC and then a bunch of > style typed in and then hit some ctrl-key combination.... I remembered I > was able to do this in csh and tcsh... No. After ESC, type the chars [ and m. Or ESC, a ( and a B. :-) It's not a special character like ^C, this is (these are) two characters. I don't know the correct value, you have to type something like this: tput sgr0 | od -c, and after it type the characters you get. Oh! I've just found, that tput in FreeBSD need the name of the variables in termcap, and not in terminfo style. So, you have to type instead of tput sgr0 -> tput me tput op -> tput op tput smacs -> tput as tput rmacs -> tput ae etc (I've found it in ``man terminfo''). And after it, you can find the characters with that tput ... | od -c form. In my console, sgr0 and rmacs are both ESC [ m. The others aren't defined. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 02:29:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA15093 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15080 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA01006; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:28:36 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (KAA02497); Fri, 3 May 1996 10:10:35 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605031010.KAA02497@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Comaptability Question To: sj@deutsch.com (Stephanie Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:10:34 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9605022327.AA29745@deutsch.com> from "Stephanie Johnson" at May 2, 96 04:27:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Although you list Adaptec 2940 as a compatible device.....Does this include > the Ultra wide variety? I don't know. > If you don't support a IDE CD ROM installation-do you support a SONY CDRom? Sony SCSI's are supported (as the other SCSI's - as I know). Sony proprietary CD's (CDU-31 and 33A) are too, as scd - I've a 33A, and it works fine. And maybe the IDE is supported, too. Some of the IDE CD's are good, the others are not. Try the atapi.flp boot floppi. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 02:34:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA15441 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA15435 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA20490; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:34:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 02:34:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Chang To: Gabor Zahemszky cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: graphical characters? In-Reply-To: <199605030948.JAA02310@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 May 1996, Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > > > Yes. You have to type this characters manually (rmacs/sgr0/...) > > > Eg: [m is sgr0 on a vt100 like terminal > > > Sometimes (B, or simply ^O > > > but you have to have a shell, which doesn't handle the control > > > characters inside (as in csh with set filec/tcsh/sh/ksh/bash in > > > line editing modes, etc ) > > > > Hmmm, so it's just ESC and then Ctrl-M? what key is (B? I > > remembered the people on irc used to say hit ESC and then a bunch of > > style typed in and then hit some ctrl-key combination.... I remembered I > > was able to do this in csh and tcsh... > > No. After ESC, type the chars [ and m. Or ESC, a ( and a B. > :-) Oh okay... > It's not a special character like ^C, this is (these are) two characters. > I don't know the correct value, you have to type something like this: > tput sgr0 | od -c, and after it type the characters you get. > > Oh! I've just found, that tput in FreeBSD need the name of the variables in > termcap, and not in terminfo style. So, you have to type instead of > tput sgr0 -> tput me > tput op -> tput op > tput smacs -> tput as > tput rmacs -> tput ae > etc (I've found it in ``man terminfo''). And after it, you can find the > characters with that tput ... | od -c form. > > In my console, sgr0 and rmacs are both ESC [ m. The others aren't defined. Thanks! =) Richard From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 04:48:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA21737 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 04:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.7.74.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA21729 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 04:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from khetan@localhost) by chain.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01086; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:42:21 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:42:20 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Going to stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all. I purchased the 2.2snapshot cd-rom, and want to start my machine from scratch - got lot's of junk floating around, and it's time to go :-0 Anyway, as I gather, I install 2.1r, but from there what do I do to get to stable ? Also, the stable code on the cd-rom will be out of date. How do I get the latest stable ? Is it as simple as another .gz file to put in some directory or what ? --- Khetan Gajjar Visit at http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations help@iafrica.com or 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 05:07:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA22432 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 05:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (cosmos.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.172.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA22427 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 05:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cosmos (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (8.6.12h2/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA01384; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:01:34 -0900 Message-ID: <318AF2BE.4EC1@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr> Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 21:01:34 -0900 From: Youngil Choi Organization: KAIST CS Dept. SAL X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: whchoi@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr Subject: muticasting problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I want to use my computer for multicastion application like nv, vic, and etc. But, i have some problem in network configuraion. as a result for "ifconfig" there is no information "MULITICAST" for network devices. how can i fix it? please send my lots of advices thank you -- Youngil Choi From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 06:09:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA25408 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp (root@tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp [133.246.32.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25397 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp (masafumi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp (8.7.5/3.4W4-SMTP) with ESMTP id WAA03938; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:09:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199605031309.WAA03938@mail.tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: max@sfc.wide.ad.jp Subject: problem with floppy drive (please help) From: Masafumi NAKANE/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2Y6LDJtSjgbKEI=?= Reply-To: max@sfc.wide.ad.jp X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 22:09:15 +0900 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Today, I made an attempt to use my floppy disk drive for the first time in two months or so. (It was working OK last time I used it.) When I tried to fdformat, it says: # fdformat /dev/rfd0 Format 1440K floppy `/dev/rfd0'? (y/n): y Processing ---------------------------------------- fdformat: ioctl(FD_FORM): Input/output error And, on console: isa_dmastart: channel 2 busy fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 (No status) Could anyone suggest what may be causing this and what I should check? Thanks in advance. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Masafumi NAKANE, Keio Univ., Dept. of Environmental Information E-Mail : t94303mn@sfc.keio.ac.jp / max@sfc.wide.ad.jp [URL] : http://www.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~t94303mn From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 06:25:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA26566 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tick.ssec.wisc.edu (tick.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26561 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tick.ssec.wisc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tick.ssec.wisc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27333; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:23:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Glowacki Message-Id: <199605031323.IAA27333@tick.ssec.wisc.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Jim Dennis cc: drbeck@onramp.net (David R. Beck), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 May 1996 13:39:39 PDT." <199605022039.NAA02271@mistery.mcafee.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 08:23:54 -0500 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I suspect that this group is tired of hearing the "Linux vs. FreeBSD" > debate (and my answer in particular). > > Here's the summary of my opinion: > If you want to run a server (ftp, mail, web) and you want > better security, closer adherence to BSD conventions and > traditions (especially handy when you want an experienced > consultant to help with configuration, upgrades or > troubleshooting) go with FreeBSD. I'd change that "and" in the first line to an "or" and add something like: If you want a system where development of the kernel and system applications are closely connected, and where the developers of the kernel and system apps are involved in the release process, go with FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 06:34:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA27482 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laura.estnet.ee (laura.estnet.ee [193.40.248.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27469 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by laura.estnet.ee (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA049704103; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:35:03 +0200 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:35:01 +0200 (EET) From: Mart Norman To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD and Future Domain TMC-3260 PCI SCSI controller Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 but it doesn't recognize my hard disk. It seems that FreeBSD doesn't have appropriate driver for Future Domain TMC-3260 PCI SCSI controller. Will it become available in nearest future or is there any possibility to use some other driver instead? BIOS says: SCSI ROM BIOS for 36C70 V.2.01 Scanning Controller 0 ... ID 1 FUJITSU M2934S-512 Firmware Rev. 0110 (FS) and FreeBSD: ... pci0:12: vendor=0x1036, device=0x0000, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] Thanks in advance, Mart ============================================================================== Mart Norman Esdata Ltd. Technical Manager Akadeemia tee 21 Tel. +372 2 527 504 EE0026 Tallinn Fax +372 2 525 621 ESTONIA E-mail: mart@estnet.ee http://www.estnet.ee/mart From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 07:44:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA05564 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05555 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07888; Fri, 3 May 96 14:44:13 GMT Message-Id: <9605031444.AA07888@fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA296794653; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:44:13 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 08:44:13 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: kam@tio.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31899D14.4EF3@tio.com> (message from kam on Thu, 02 May 1996 22:43:48 -0700) Subject: Re: FreeBsd Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk They're compatible, in the sense that you can have both on your hard disk drive. But you can run only one of them at a time. Install Windows '95 first. Then install FreeBSD. When you install FreeBSD, choose to install the boot manager. With the boot manager, you'll get a little menu of operating systems to run, such as: F1 ... MSDOS F2 ... FreeBSD Press the appropriate function key. If you don't press any one after about a five second timeout, your system will boot into whatever OS was booted last. Enjoy. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 07:46:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA05880 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05861 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07909; Fri, 3 May 96 14:46:49 GMT Message-Id: <9605031446.AA07909@fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA296844809; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:46:49 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 08:46:49 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: robert@elastica.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605030455.AAA00239@justine.elastica.com> (message from Robert Nicholson on Fri, 3 May 1996 00:55:35 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: xterm problems.. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Nicholson writes: Robert> Can anybody explain this.. [deletia] It looks like two sessions are on the same tty; the clue is the shell prompt---one's a #, the other ends in %. (I doubt you've programmed your prompt to toggle in that way, right?) Kill both shells. I haven't seen that problem since my old SunOS 4.1.1 days. I'm surprised it exists in BSD4.4 ... and thus, FreeBSD. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 08:00:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA07623 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phantom (phantom.nvl.army.mil [140.183.5.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA07604 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by phantom (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uFMLN-0002nYC; Fri, 3 May 96 11:00 EDT Message-Id: From: sjones@nvl.army.mil (Casey Jones) Subject: FreeBSD cdrom hierarchy? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: sjones@nvl.army.mil X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have mirrored the FreeBSD directory and am trying to write an install cd. I was wondering if someone could e-mail me the dir hierarchy of the cdrom (or even ls -lR). I've tried writting two cd but the install program is unable to find the "dists" dir. Should it be: /dists or /dists | | - /2.1.0-RELEASE - /bin | | - /bin - /usr | | - /usr _ ... | - ... Or even something different? I wrote one as: /2.1.0-RELEASE | - /bin | - /usr | _ ... Maybe someone knows a way to tell the install program to find it from a non-standard cdrom? Thanks, Steven C Jones Systems Adminstrator Night Vision & Electronic Sensors Directorate (AMSEL-RD-NV-TSD) Ft. Belvoir, VA 22060-5806 Phone: 4-1616 Fax: 4-1705 For my PGP public key, finger: sjones@nvl.army.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 09:21:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA15399 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kinsey.fia.net (root@kinsey.fia.net [199.172.120.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15391 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonessr.calypso.com (ts2p8.fia.net [199.172.120.153]) by kinsey.fia.net (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01707 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <318A325A.6736@mail.fia.net> Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 09:20:42 -0700 From: Eric Jones Organization: A2Z Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: BSD to Irix X-URL: http://www.freebsd.com/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm a graphic artist and seriously discontent with the kind of performance I get out of my PC. I've considered using BSD, but my biggest question is compatability and being able to get my files output to common things like an imagesetter, etc. If I install BSD to my system, do I have to find a service bureau with a system with BSD as well, or can other DOS/Windows/SGI systems read my disks? Eric Jones From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 09:29:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA16217 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caau.ca.br.np.els-gms.att.net (caau.ca.br.np.els-gms.att.net [199.191.128.166]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16188 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: /G=David/S=Sandel/DD.ALISA=SANDELD@mhs-emerson.attmail.com Received: from mhs!emerson by /C=US/AD=ATTMAIL;Fri May 3 15:49:51 -0000 1996 Received: by /C=US/AD=ATTMAIL/PD=EMOTORCO;Fri May 3 10:49:17 -0500 1996 Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 10:49:17 -0500 Transport-Options: /STANDARD/RETURN Original-Encoding-Types: ASCII Disclose-Recipients: yes Subject: FreeBSD DHCP Support P2-Originator: mhs!emerson/G=David/S=Sandel/DD.ALISA=SANDELD (Sandel, David) To: questions@freebsd.org (o=attmail/dd.id=) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi There .... Does anyone know if FreeBSD will include DHCP support in the near future ??? Dave S. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 09:51:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA18366 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from martin.luther.edu (martin.luther.edu [192.203.196.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18358 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by martin.luther.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15386; Fri, 3 May 96 11:54:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:54:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Benjamin Tomhave To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CERN httpd and CGI Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Howdy! I'm having problems getting CGI applications to run on my web pages on my FreeBSD 2.1 system. I have the CERN httpd web daemon up and running via the available binaries. Pages work fine, but I cannot get any CGI apps. to process. Any ideas or suggestions anyone might have would be great! Thanks! -ben -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Benjamin Tomhave | Shell to DOS...Come in DOS...Do you Copy? Luther College | Decorah, IA 52101 | $ rm * .* "Hey, where'd everything go? tomhavbe@martin.luther.edu | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 10:13:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20354 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ian.iafrica.com (root@ian.iafrica.com [196.7.0.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20346 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ian.iafrica.com (khetan@ian.iafrica.com [196.7.0.130]) by ian.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA04706; Fri, 3 May 1996 19:12:59 +0200 (SAT) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 19:12:58 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org cc: iang@iafrica.com Subject: FreeBSD installation query Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all. I have a Compaq 486 DX4/120 with 32mb RAM and a Seagate 340 mb HDD and a Quantum Fireball 1080 mb HDD (both IDE) with a Adaptec 6360 card with a NEC 6x CD-ROM drive. I have been running FreeBSD 2.1R for quite a while now and am running out of disk space. This affects you how ? I am getting there.... :) Up until now FreeBSD 2.1 has been installed on the 340mb HDD, but this is getting too small, as I want to "upgrade" to stable and get some more packages, etc on. I now want to scrap the Win95 installation (i.e halve it and install BSD on 500 mb of it and use the 340 as a general FreeBSD drive for the sources, etc), but have one little problem : my bios is pre-enhanced IDE, so doesn't recognise (at least in DOS!) anything greater than 500mb. I installed Disk Manager (with some overlay) and the drive worked fine. My query is this : do I need to do something similar when I start from scratch and install FreeBSD 2.1 on this drive i.e. do I still need this overlay software ? If so, is there a FreeBSD-friendly alternative ? If not, what solution do you have ? Compaq do not have a upgraded BIOS and I cannot pop the chip out. Any solution(s) ? --- Khetan Gajjar Visit at http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations help@iafrica.com or 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 10:13:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20384 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phoenix.net (mail.phoenix.net [199.3.232.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20373 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Vidcom.Texar.phoenix.net (moe.vidnet.net [205.241.106.3]) by mail.phoenix.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA12765 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:12:43 GMT Message-Id: <199605031212.MAA12765@mail.phoenix.net> From: "Morris Allen" To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: CD-Rom Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:32:20 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Do you have this available on CD-ROM with whatever routines or utilities. I would like to buy it if you do. Please send any imformation to mallen@vidnet.net Thank you Morris Allen From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 10:24:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21428 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.sw-expo.com (matt@www.sw-expo.com [198.69.0.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21418 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from matt@localhost) by www.sw-expo.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id NAA07124; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:23:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:23:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Payton To: Doug White cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation of FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the quick response. It still isn't finding the cd, however. Guess I'll keep trying 'till I make it work. Matt From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 10:33:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA22662 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from creep.dialup.access.net (root@creep.dialup.access.net [166.84.209.115]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22655 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jauerbac@localhost) by creep.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00844; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:32:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:32:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Auerbach To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ppp log message. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to know what a magic number means when it comes to ppp. Several times my lines have been disconnected because it expects a certain magic number and gets a different one. Can you email me at creep@cyberwar.com Thanks jeff auerbach From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 11:04:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA25246 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25239 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04655; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:06:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:06:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: eissatrd@ritsec3.com.eg cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: final snap In-Reply-To: <9605030819.AA29260@ritsec3.com.eg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 May 1996 eissatrd@ritsec3.com.eg wrote: > when i tried to use the final snapshot i found 2 boot > one for the 4MB and the other is not. > I have 5MB So which one should i use. Here is how i am reading this: There are two boot floppies: 1 for 4MB of RAM, and one that is everything else. Which one shouldI use? I think you're ok with the regular one (the non-4mb version). you'll know if it runs out of RAM if you get a panic. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 11:14:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA26459 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.intermind.com (apollo.intermind.com [206.40.151.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26453 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Atropos.intermind.com ([206.40.150.122]) by apollo.intermind.com (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11400) with SMTP id AAA195 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:19:01 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960503181330.006eee28@intermind.com> X-Sender: jnoetzel@intermind.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 11:13:30 -0700 To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jnoetzel@intermind.com (Jeremy Noetzelman) Subject: Custom CDROM Installs Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to know the feasability of creating a custom CDROM for installing FreeBSD. I'd like to be able to setup a system to a uniform configuration, and then somehow burn an image onto a CD, using that CD for installations as well as (or perhaps a second CD) for security checksum checks and the like. Comments welcomed and encouraged ;) Jeremy Noetzelman Operations Specialist Intermind From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 11:15:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA26636 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26628 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04696; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:11:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: /G=David/S=Sandel/DD.ALISA=SANDELD@mhs-emerson.attmail.com cc: "o=attmail/dd.id=" Subject: Re: FreeBSD DHCP Support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 May 1996 /G=David/S=Sandel/DD.ALISA=SANDELD@mhs-emerson.attmail.com wrote: > Does anyone know if FreeBSD will include DHCP support in the near > future ??? Built in: Possibly in the future. Now: You ave two choices: 1) Apply the boopd-DHCP patches OR 2) run the WIDE DHCP server. Hopefully someone else can give details. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 11:25:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA27631 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27626 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04814; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:28:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Youngil Choi cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, whchoi@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr Subject: Re: muticasting problem In-Reply-To: <318AF2BE.4EC1@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 May 1996, Youngil Choi wrote: > Hello > > I want to use my computer for multicastion application like nv, vic, and > etc. > But, i have some problem in network configuraion. > as a result for "ifconfig" there is no information "MULITICAST" for > network devices. > how can i fix it? Multicast is not supported for your network hardware. Try a different ethernet card. I know that ed0 and de0's support multicast. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 12:28:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA05412 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fau-01.campus.mci.net (fau-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.170]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05403 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from angel (s24-pm01.fau.campus.mci.net [206.100.76.53]) by fau-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA26377 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <318A5E65.38D6@fau.campus.mci.net> Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 15:28:37 -0400 From: "Angel G. Ortiz" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 - 3com590 Ethernet Card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Questions: I want to have freebsd work with my 3com590 ethernet combo card. Can you please tell me which device I should use for the 3com 590 or is there a patch for this card? I've looked at the list of supported cards, and the 590 is not included, buth the 509 is. Please Help Angel From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 13:02:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA08220 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08215 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ATLSER by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5424; Fri, 03 May 96 16:01:02 EDT Received: by ATLSER (XAGENTA 4.0) id 3826; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:01:38 -0400 Received: by remailer.atlissc.ibm.com (OUTERMAI.CMD/2.1 by epc) id outermai.637 Received: from wposmtp.atlissc.ibm.com by remailer.atlissc.ibm.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0408; Fri, 03 May 96 16:00:51 -0700 Received: from ISSC-Message_Server by wposmtp.atlissc.ibm.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 03 May 1996 15:59:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 15:59:04 -0400 From: "Larry Swift" To: twoods@ccgate.sos.state.il.us Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: IBM Value point S3 Video Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>> Terry Woods 04/29/96 05:20pm >>> > I am now trying to Bring up XFree86 on an IBM ValuePoint with > S3 86C801/805 Chipset with an ATT20C490-80 ramdac. I have tried... Terry, Are you sure this is the right Chipset/ramdac? I have an aging ValuePoint that SuperProbe identifies with the S3 Vision864/S386C716 SDAC. When I configure XFree86 with these, X works find... -LKS From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 13:23:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA09332 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.fnet.fr (ns.fnet.fr [192.134.192.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09321 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ns.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/AFUU-4.2.3) via EUnet-France id AA22451; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:22:28 +0200 (MET) Message-Id: <199605032022.AA22451@ns.fnet.fr> From: Eric Feillant Subject: HELP WITH NEW RELEASE !!! To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:22:25 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi all, I just compile my own new FreeBSD version from /usr/src/* and especially /usr/src/release where i type : make release i put the new release in /user/release but at the end of the "make release" , it tells me that i need to tell makefile CVSROOT= ?????? , what can i put here ? what's cvs ??? Thanx for quick responses..... Eric. Eric.Feillant@EUnet.fr From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 14:09:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA12075 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12069 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA14806; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:01:07 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605032101.OAA14806@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: dlopen and stuff To: faulkner@asgard.bga.com (Boyd R. Faulkner) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:01:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605030038.TAA05473@utgard.bga.com> from "Boyd R. Faulkner" at May 2, 96 07:39:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to port regina (REXX) to FreeBSD. It supports loadable libraries > via the dlopen mechanism. I can dlopen the lib. dlsym returns the address > and runs but the lib code calls functions in a statically linked lib linked > to the executable calling the dynamic lib. This works on a sun. Can it work > here? You will need to dynamically link the common sublibrary, or the symbol space will not be exported. This is probably a bug in the way export symbol tables are handled for static code where dynamic linking is supported, if you want to examine the technicality. Specifically, there is not a shared export list for statically linked (but exported) symbols in objects which aren't shared. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 14:32:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA13186 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.14.93.14] ([206.14.93.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13178 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:31:55 -0700 (PDT) From: msjhs@zoom.com Received: from 206.14.93.4 by [206.14.93.14] with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Fri, 3 May 1996 13:29:57 -0800 Message-ID: <318A7B35.3F2E@zoom.com> Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 14:31:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help installing FreeBSD X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a 386 with 8MB of RAM and a 258MB hard drive. When I get to the partitioning part of the installation, the computer locks up, or takes forever (let it run for about 8 hours). There is a 3COM 10BaseT ethernet card, vga video and an IDE controler card. What is wrong? How can I make it work? Thanks P.S. I looked in the FAQ and the Handbook, and didn't see any answers From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 15:05:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA15036 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15005 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd04.thehub.com.au (dd04.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.124]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA14509 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:01:28 +1000 Received: by dd04.thehub.com.au with Microsoft Mail id <01BB3991.41DC0500@dd04.thehub.com.au>; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:11:12 +-1000 Message-ID: <01BB3991.41DC0500@dd04.thehub.com.au> From: Greg Laslett To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Serial Console Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 08:02:27 +-1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to do away with my VGA card and keyboard, using a serial terminal as a console via COM1 instead. Can anyone suggest a reasonable CONFIG file to build a kernel that will do this ? Regards, Greg Laslett. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 15:05:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA15074 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15064 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd04.thehub.com.au (dd04.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.124]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA14533 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:02:30 +1000 Received: by dd04.thehub.com.au with Microsoft Mail id <01BB3991.615AC380@dd04.thehub.com.au>; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:12:04 +-1000 Message-ID: <01BB3991.615AC380@dd04.thehub.com.au> From: Greg Laslett To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: named / DNS for part time internet Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 08:11:00 +-1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I enable 'named' in sysconfig then hostname resolution 'Stops' and I = can't start PPP. With 'named' turned off in sysconfig. I can start my = PPP connect manually after bootup and then also start 'named'. Can 'named' or an alternative be configured to handle coming and going = PPP connections so that I get Domain/Host name resolution while I'm = connected but reverts to say '/etc/hosts' when I'm not ? Regards, Greg Laslett. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 15:08:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA15321 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15316 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA14947; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:01:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605032201.PAA14947@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Dual Processer Support To: jimd@mistery.mcafee.com (Jim Dennis) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:01:00 -0700 (MST) Cc: Ekrem_Gashi@ccmail.nybc.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605022135.OAA02448@mistery.mcafee.com> from "Jim Dennis" at May 2, 96 02:35:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I am interested installing unix operating system, which I like to use > > as a server and like to load Oracle DB. > > I don't know of a FreeBSD port for Oracle. > A quick search of their webpages reveals no hits for 'bsd' or > 'linux'. So I suspect you'd have to run the SCO binaries under > iBCS (and I don't know if that would work -- some binaries > are linked against libraries that are proprietary to SCO). I have not seen Oracle run under IBCS2 under Linux or BSD. I don't know if it will run at all. You will face two problems: 1) Shared libraries, if any (as noted above) 2) The install process, for which neither Linux nor FreeBSD have IBCS2 install tool sets or environments. > Another quick search -- this time of the Sybase pages reveals > a Linux client and server package but nothing under 'bsd'. I have personally run the IBCS2 version for the AT&T StarServer under FreeBSD (about a year ago). The install is a bugger. Like most IBCS2 code, you want to build an ls -lR of your SYSV system, install there, and ls -lR again, and diff them to see the files you should grab. > > I have dual processor 120MHz 2.00GB disk, 24MB RAM. > > > I suspect that any serious processing will use up all of that > RAM long before you'll benefit from the addtion processor -- > particularly in db applications (which are usually much more > disk and memory intensive then processor bound). > > Consider tripling the RAM (at least). I am running a two processor 16M system, and am benefitting from the second processor for CPU bound activity (actually, I'm running some calculations for relativistically invariant P-N and P-P collisions resulting in pair production to test by theory the recent experimental results in the isolation of the carrier of the strong force). I get done about 1.87 times as fast for one million events matching the constraints imposed by the physics on what the universe will or will not allow as an event (so a run is typically 12 billion events that satisfy the relativistic invariance criteria). A Sun SPARCServer2 with two 50MHz processors running WEITEC math takes about 28-32 hours, and on my Dual P90, I finish in about 18-19 hours on the BSD box. This is significantly better than the Cray 1 at Los Alamos (some of the matrix operations for the 12 Feynman-Dyson diagram soloutions are non-vectorizable, so that's to be expected). Incidently, the theory hits right on the money. 8-). Too bad it's not my theory. 8-(. So the amount of RAM necessary is really quite dependant on whether what you are running is RAM-bound. Running something that's I/O bound, of course, would cause a second processor to have no effect. > > I am debating which operating system I shall use. Now I have NT, but I > > won to install unix. > > We want to recommend Unix (at least I do). However I can't > always do so with a clear conscience -- sometimes it simply > isn't the answer. What's your applications. Me too. It depends on your application. > > I was tolled that Linux does not support dual processing. > > It might not be nearly as important as you think. However > there are groups working on SMP (symmetrical multi-processor) > support for Linux. I'm not sure about the Free/Net/OpenBSD > camps. There is alpha-level (code quality, not distribution designation) SMP support from both camps. It's alpha-level because, among other things, the are both low grain SMP implementations (ie: multiple processors can run simultaneously in user space, but only one is allowed into the kernel at a time). > In conclusion I would say that you should look at this > with a couple of thoughts in mind: > > What are you really trying to do and why? > > What resources do you have (or can you get)? > > Do you think you are qualified to make the > purchasing and implementation decisions, and/or do > the requisite research yourself or should you hire > a consultant? Ditto. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 16:24:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA19936 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [204.214.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19921 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max3-196.HiWAAY.net by fly.HiWAAY.net; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id AA05463; Fri, 3 May 1996 18:23:29 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 18:24:08 -0500 To: Eric Jones , questions@freebsd.org From: dkelly@hiwaay.net (David Kelly) Subject: Re: BSD to Irix Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:20 AM 5/3/96, Eric Jones wrote: >I'm a graphic artist and seriously discontent with the kind of performance >I get out of my PC. I've considered using BSD, but my biggest question is >compatability and being able to get my files output to common things like >an imagesetter, etc. If I install BSD to my system, do I have to find a >service bureau with a system with BSD as well, or can other >DOS/Windows/SGI systems read my disks? Assuming you have a graphics utility that runs under FreeBSD that reads/writes a format usable by the other machines then you will have no trouble moving floppy media between those systems. You could write your files in MS-DOS format on the floppy(s). You could write your files in TAR format on the floppies. Tar works for almost anything, even Macintosh (look for a Mac utility called "suntar", the "sun" in "suntar" doesn't have anything to do with Sun Microsystems). Modern Mac's ship with MS-DOS filesystem "drivers" so that solution works too. For big stuff its best to get a 4mm DAT or real (not PC) QIC tape drive and use tar. But best of all, wire an ethernet between the systems and shoot the data across that way. Originally I downloaded FreeBSD over LocalTalk to a Mac, wrote the boot floppies from the Mac (rawrite.exe works under SoftPC if you disable Apple's DOS floppy driver). Then I made a bunch of MS-DOS floppies... Ouch. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@hiwaay.net ============================================================= To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. - Thomas Edison From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 16:42:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21432 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dada.kaizen.net (dada.kaizen.net [206.27.236.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21427 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by dada.kaizen.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id TAA25725; Fri, 3 May 1996 19:40:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 19:40:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Newell To: Greg Laslett cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Serial Console In-Reply-To: <01BB3991.41DC0500@dd04.thehub.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 May 1996, Greg Laslett wrote: > I would like to do away with my VGA card and keyboard, using a serial terminal as a console via COM1 instead. I think you'll have to have a VGA card; from what I've seen most BIOSen consider the lack of a video card to be fatal and they won't get past POST. Many modern BIOSen will let you leave off the keyboard [some require a flag be set], although older ones will generate a "Keyboard error - press F1 to continue" sort of error.... :-) > Can anyone suggest a reasonable CONFIG file to build a kernel that will do > this ? I just set "options COMCONSOLE" in my config file, built and installed the kernel, and it worked fine. You can't [surprise!] use the com1 port as a SLIP/PPP line, but who'd want to anyway? Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 16:49:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21669 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21664 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3192C9E3.41C67EA6@caribnet.net> Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 00:45:23 -0400 From: "Mr Sean Batson A.C.P." Organization: VALteCH Software Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b2 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: who - signed on users Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when connected via modem port ttyd0, I ran program w and who to display users and I wasn't amoung the users list produced but when I'm on locally, I'm shown in the users' list but not when connected via the modem. --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="business" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="business" VALteCH Software Services |http://users.caribnet.net/~valtech/ 60 Pillersdorf |CICS OS/2 Application Development 4th Avenue Long Gap |Quick Proof/TIPS Grazettes |E-mail: valtech@caribnet.net St Michael |YOUR NUMBER ONE BUSINESS CHOICE Barbados --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7-- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 16:53:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21819 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21814 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA15143; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:44:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605032344.QAA15143@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: named / DNS for part time internet To: abseil@thehub.com.au (Greg Laslett) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:44:01 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <01BB3991.615AC380@dd04.thehub.com.au> from "Greg Laslett" at May 4, 96 08:11:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If I enable 'named' in sysconfig then hostname resolution 'Stops' and I = > can't start PPP. With 'named' turned off in sysconfig. I can start my = > PPP connect manually after bootup and then also start 'named'. > > Can 'named' or an alternative be configured to handle coming and going = > PPP connections so that I get Domain/Host name resolution while I'm = > connected but reverts to say '/etc/hosts' when I'm not ? It defaults to the search order in /etc/host.conf. Just configure the "hosts" search first in the list: Example: ========================================================================== # $Id: host.conf,v 1.2 1993/11/07 01:02:57 wollman Exp $ # Default is to use the /etc/hosts file first hosts # If that doesn't work, then try the nameserver bind # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncomment the next line # nis ========================================================================== In this configuration, it will try to get to the resolver if the name isn't in /etc/hosts, so if you typo or semething, it won't be able to tell that from a legitimate request to get to the ppp server. It also won't fix sendmail trying to reverse lookup cannonical names on mail message if you locally deliver mail. Since tcsh will always reference the local host, it should fix "login == ppp" for the most common cases. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 16:54:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA21852 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digital.netvoyage.net (root@digital.netvoyage.net [205.162.154.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21847 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bogawa@localhost) by digital.netvoyage.net (8.6.13/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00378; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:54:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Ogawa at Work To: Benjamin Tomhave cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CERN httpd and CGI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 May 1996, Benjamin Tomhave wrote: > Howdy! Hi! > I'm having problems getting CGI applications to run on my web pages on my > FreeBSD 2.1 system. I have the CERN httpd web daemon up and running via > the available binaries. Pages work fine, but I cannot get any CGI apps. > to process. Any ideas or suggestions anyone might have would be great! While this may not be what you prefer to do, I would recomment considering using Apache . It's free, it's fast, and it's pretty easy to set up, and since I've never set up a CERN-style httpd, I can't even begin to guess at diagnosing it. Apache, on the other hand, I haven't had trouble with. NCSA (the other of the "big three" of free httpds) I have experience with as well, but I wouldn't recommend it when Apache's available and doesn't seem to have the performance limits I've seen in NCSA. But, maybe someone else has experience w/ CERN. bryan > > Thanks! > > -ben > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | > Benjamin Tomhave | Shell to DOS...Come in DOS...Do you Copy? > Luther College | > Decorah, IA 52101 | $ rm * .* "Hey, where'd everything go? > tomhavbe@martin.luther.edu | > | > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bryan K. Ogawa Questions or Problems with NetVoyage? help@netvoyage.net Check out the NetVoyage HelpWeb at.. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 16:58:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA22066 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp (root@tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp [133.246.32.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22060 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp (masafumi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp (8.7.5/3.4W4-SMTP) with ESMTP id IAA15307; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:58:03 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199605032358.IAA15307@mail.tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: max@sfc.wide.ad.jp Subject: Re: Serial Console From: Masafumi NAKANE/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2Y6LDJtSjgbKEI=?= Reply-To: max@sfc.wide.ad.jp X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 08:58:02 +0900 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: Greg Laslett Subject: Serial Console Date: 4 May 1996 01:38:51 +0200 > I would like to do away with my VGA card and keyboard, using a serial terminal as a console via COM1 instead. > > Can anyone suggest a reasonable CONFIG file to build a kernel that will do > this ? You can make serial console either by building kernel with `options COMCONSOLE' in your kernel config file, or to install boot block compiled with FORCE_COMCONSOLE macro defined. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Masafumi NAKANE, Keio Univ., Dept. of Environmental Information E-Mail : t94303mn@sfc.keio.ac.jp / max@sfc.wide.ad.jp [URL] : http://www.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~t94303mn From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 17:11:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22601 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ktnet.ktnet.co.kr (ktnet.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22595 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sphere.ktnet.co.kr (sphere.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.96]) by ktnet.ktnet.co.kr (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA21322 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 09:04:47 +0900 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960504001121.0067e3ec@ktnet.co.kr> X-Sender: geoid@ktnet.co.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 09:11:21 +0900 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Jun, Gyu-Chang" Subject: [Q] HDD striping Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear, FreeBSD users. I have two 4Gb scsi hdds and would like to use these two hdd like one big 8Gb hdd. I have heard that this function is called striping. Is there any "stripe" packages for FreeBSD 2.1.0? Waiting for reply. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 17:21:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22991 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22986 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 May 96 20:22 GMT-0400 From: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Virtual Terminals Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I increase from the 3 default terminals to say about 11 terminals? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 17:49:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA23772 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23767 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 May 96 20:50 GMT-0400 From: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Virtual Terminals Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I increase my terminals from to 11? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 18:14:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA24841 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 18:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npc.haplink.co.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA24832 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 18:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from admin@localhost) by npc.haplink.co.cn (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA16598 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 May 1996 09:21:05 GMT Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 09:21:05 GMT From: admin Message-Id: <199605040921.JAA16598@npc.haplink.co.cn> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: firewall problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When I add firewall options in my new kernel, nothing can go out or in. Someone told me its initialization was deny everything, but when I add or del firewall with ipfw command in "netstart" with booting up, get the same result. Some detail results are: Can not bind name server. Can not ping through the host lists in /etc/hosts, even localhost. giving the following result: Sendto: Permission denied. Need your help! Best regards! --xiyuan From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 18:21:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA25392 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 18:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA25387 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 18:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA28621; Fri, 3 May 1996 20:23:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 20:23:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Sean Batson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Virtual Terminals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You'll have to edit /etc/ttys to add the desired terminals and you will also have to do a /dev/MAKEDEV tty# Mike On Fri, 3 May 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > How do I increase from the 3 default terminals to say about 11 terminals? > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 21:35:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA08361 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post-ofc03.srv.cis.pitt.edu (root@post-ofc03.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.39]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08356 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:35:55 -0700 (PDT) From: jlfox+@pitt.edu Received: from local (root@localhost) by post-ofc03.srv.cis.pitt.edu (8.7.5/cispo-2.0.1.1) ID for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unixs-eval.cis.pitt.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from local (jlfox@localhost) by unixs-eval.cis.pitt.edu (8.7.5/client-2.3) ID ; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 00:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605040435.AAA11583@unixs-eval.cis.pitt.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4 X-Personal_name: Jim Fox Subject: Can't get boot disk to ftp rest of FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm on Dell Pentium that was able to download boot.flp and rawrite.exe from you from ftp under dos. Everything goes well till I kick it to transfer from (tried several sites.) Suspected DNS problems so used "other" and ftp://163....... No luck! Setup didn't query for ethernet card info... Is it smart enough to probe and configure itself? HELP!!! [I also blew away my boot manager so the machine is dead.] BTW, I've got 2.5 gigs and 32mb RAM so no problems there. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 22:22:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA10469 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wormhole (root@wormhole.map.com [204.71.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10464 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: "Roland Jay Roberts" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Sat, 04 May 96 01:23:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Roland Jay Roberts" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Roland Roberts's Registered PMMail 1.5 Subject: Re: Comaptability Question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 May 1996 10:10:34 +0000 (GMT), Gabor Zahemszky wrote: >And maybe the IDE is supported, too. Some of the IDE CD's are good, the >others are not. Try the atapi.flp boot floppi. Does anyone have a list of supported (i.e., working) IDE CD-ROM drives? // Roland Jay Roberts - Team OS/2 - // Internet: jay@map.com // FidoNet: Roland Roberts @ 1:321/305.5 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 3 22:39:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA11168 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11163 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id GAA04202 ; Sat, 4 May 1996 06:38:50 +0100 (BST) To: Roland Jay Roberts cc: FreeBSD Questions From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Comaptability Question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 May 1996 01:23:09 EDT." Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 06:38:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4199.831188329@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Roland Jay Roberts wrote in message ID : > On Fri, 3 May 1996 10:10:34 +0000 (GMT), Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > > >And maybe the IDE is supported, too. Some of the IDE CD's are good, the > >others are not. Try the atapi.flp boot floppi. > > Does anyone have a list of supported (i.e., working) IDE CD-ROM drives? Trouble is it seems (from what I've read) that what may work for someone may not work for someone else. It APPEARS to be dependant on a lot of different factors (including stuff like if the CD is the master on the IDE bus or the slave, and possibly what the other device (if any) on the chain is), so compiling a list may prove, err, challenging. That isn't to say that it shouldn't be attempted, but just a warning that even if it says ``THIS DRIVE WORKS'' on the list, it means it worked for SOMEONE, maybe not for you though. Until someone tidies up the IDE driver and the ATAPI CD driver, that will unfortunately remain the case. If someone wants to try, the mail list archives will likely prove a good starting place. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 01:07:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA02173 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02154 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I4AYFDSRWW00362B@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Sat, 04 May 1996 10:05:49 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA23136; Sat, 04 May 1996 10:13:36 +0200 Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 10:13:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: muticasting problem In-reply-to: To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: yichoi@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr, questions@freebsd.org, whchoi@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199605040813.KAA23136@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Fri, 3 May 1996, Youngil Choi wrote: > > > Hello > > > > I want to use my computer for multicastion application like nv, vic, and > > etc. > > But, i have some problem in network configuraion. > > as a result for "ifconfig" there is no information "MULITICAST" for > > network devices. > > how can i fix it? > > Multicast is not supported for your network hardware. While we are at it: What can I do when I'm at the end of an ISDN line connected via raw IP (not PPP or SLIP) to the university campus where I have one FreeBSD box on the local ethernet running mrouted. What would be a multicast set up for such a machine? Could I build a tunnel to that mrouter? > > Try a different ethernet card. I know that ed0 and de0's support multicast. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 01:42:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA10966 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA10935 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA01444; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:42:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 01:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can't run Java applets... Please help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've downloaded the Netscape 3 (Atlas) beta, and I'm fairly certain that I have installed everything right. I downloaded the port and typed "make", then moved the files to the places named in the PLIST file (maybe I should have tried "make install" instead?) The browser works fine, but it won't run java applets: "Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background" At the bottom line where it sometimes shows scrolling text, there is the message "Applet can't start: error: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: findSystemClass" Any suggestions? My system is a 486SX-25 with 8 megs of RAM, running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. Using the SVGA driver for X, with 800x600 resolution, 256 colours. Window manager is FVWM. Also... I have the JDK, and I'm able to compile and run a simple HelloWorld application. But when I try to run appletviewer on the demo applets, it dies: Can't find shared library "Xm" (/usr/java/lib/i386/libawt.so) Can't find shared library "Xm" (/usr/java/bin/../lib/i386/libawt.so) java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no awt in shared library path [along with a bunch of other errors cauesd by not finding libawt.so] ldconfig -r shows that libc_r.so.2.2, libfakesys.so.1.0 and libc.so.3.0 in the /usr/java/lib/i386 directory, but that's all. I don't know why it would find those files but not libawt.so, which *is* in the same directory as the other three. I would prefer to run applets through Netscape, but I would appreciate any help in getting applets to work either way. ====================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68 C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, IANAL. -- | ====================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 04:41:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA01425 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fau-01.campus.mci.net (fau-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.170]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA01417 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FreeBSD.camelot.com (s25-pm01.fau.campus.mci.net [206.100.76.54]) by fau-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA29930 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 07:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605041141.HAA29930@fau-01.campus.mci.net> Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 07:41:30 -0400 From: "Angel G. Ortiz" <"angelo"@fau.campus.mci.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3com590 HELP!!!!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Questions: I want to know if there is a way to configure my 3com 590 PCI card with FreeBSD 2.1? In the list of supported devices the 590 is not included, but, other 3com cards are. Can you tell me if there is a device file I can use for my 3com 590, or can I use one of the existing 3com devices (e.g., the one for the 3com 509 )? Please Help. Thanks, Angel From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 04:46:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA01577 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA01559 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aida (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aida (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA00675; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:12:13 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:12:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: didier@aida.org To: Tom Emerson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shmget() In-Reply-To: <3184FAAA.4EF5@asu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Tom Emerson wrote: > Are the system V ipc and shm (shared memory) system calls > working correctly? I was trying to use the shmget() system > call, and it core dumped -bad system call-. > > I tried the same call on a Solaris box, and it worked OK there. > > TIA > Tom Emerson > KAET Television > Arizona State University > (another die-hard BSD fan!) > the shared memory works perfectly but you have to activate them in your configuration file and build a new kernel -- Didier Derny | Microsoft Free Computer. | AM586-160 ASUS PVI 486SP3 didier@aida.org | Private FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE site. | aha2940 / 1Gb HAWK From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 04:47:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA01707 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fau-01.campus.mci.net (fau-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.170]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA01700 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FreeBSD.camelot.com (s25-pm01.fau.campus.mci.net [206.100.76.54]) by fau-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA29941 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 07:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605041147.HAA29941@fau-01.campus.mci.net> Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 07:48:06 -0400 From: "Angel G. Ortiz" <"angelo"@fau.campus.mci.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!1 - Root not dismounted properly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Questions: I currently run the fsck command on my FreeBSD 2.1 system and find that I need to have fsck do repairs by answering y to the questions. I also notice that when I bring my system back up I get a message like the following: "/kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted." Why is this happening if I use shutdown -h now? Why is fsck constantly telling me there is something wrong with my filesyste? Please help Thanks, Angel From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 04:50:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA01934 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fau-01.campus.mci.net (fau-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.170]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA01929 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FreeBSD.camelot.com (s25-pm01.fau.campus.mci.net [206.100.76.54]) by fau-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA29960 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 07:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605041150.HAA29960@fau-01.campus.mci.net> Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 07:50:52 -0400 From: "Angel G. Ortiz" <"angelo"@fau.campus.mci.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can't open /var/db/moundtab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Questions: Each time I reboot my system I get the following message: "mountd[83]: Can't open /var/db/mountdtab." Both the path and file exist. Can you tell me what I need to do in order to get rid of this message? Thanks, Angel From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 05:00:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA02154 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zaraza.bofh.org.il (root@zaraza.bofh.org.il [192.115.153.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA02149 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from domestic.netvision.net.il (cs21a10.netmedia.net.il [192.115.153.74]) by zaraza.bofh.org.il (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA04957 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:02:06 +0200 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960504120548.006ed580@zaraza.netmedia.net.il> X-Sender: guest@zaraza.netmedia.net.il (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 15:05:48 +0300 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Nossik Subject: Booting Win95+FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have two IDE hard disks with FreeBSD installed on master and Win95 on slave. Somehow, Win95 won't boot from FreeBSD boot manager - when it displays its options, I press F5 for disk2, on disk2 I have Win95 boot thingy, but it proceeds with loading FreeBSD from disk1 nevertheless... Any help will be much appreciated. -- Lamer *********************************************************************** * Laszlo's Chinese Relativity Axiom: No matter how great your * triumphs or how tragic your defeats, approximately one * billion Chinese couldn't care less. *********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 05:39:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA03230 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyburbia.bns.com.au (cyburbia.bns.com.au [203.19.43.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA03221 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from justin@localhost) by cyburbia.bns.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA13557; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:15:47 GMT Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 22:15:47 +0000 () From: Justin Viiret To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't run Java applets... Please help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 May 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > At the bottom line where it sometimes shows scrolling text, there is the > message > > "Applet can't start: error: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: findSystemClass" I'm having the same problem on a SNAP release of 2.1 on a P100 with 32mb RAM.. anyone got any clues? The classes zip seems to be in the right place... /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Justin Viiret Cyburbia Network Services | | justin@cyburbia.bns.com.au Co-sysadmin | | http://cyburbia.bns.com.au/~justin A96 Music Competition (dis)Organiser | \------------------[Relax, it's only ones and zeroes.]--------------------/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 05:49:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA03533 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asiaonline.net (asiaonline.net [202.85.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA03528 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip213.asiaonline.net by asiaonline.net (AsiaOnLine-Gateway) id AA25160; Sat, 4 May 96 20:48:07 HKT Message-Id: <9605041248.AA25160@asiaonline.net> Date: Sat, 04 May 96 20:49:33 -0700 From: yinfoon X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Driver for Future Domain Corps TM C 950 chip set CD Rom driver for Win 95 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 05:51:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA03621 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asiaonline.net (asiaonline.net [202.85.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA03616 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip213.asiaonline.net by asiaonline.net (AsiaOnLine-Gateway) id AA25369; Sat, 4 May 96 20:50:53 HKT Message-Id: <9605041250.AA25369@asiaonline.net> Date: Sat, 04 May 96 20:52:12 -0700 From: yinfoon X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: CD Rom driver for Windows 95 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir/Madam, I should be grateful if you would show me the ftp site from which I may download the driver programme for Future Domain's TM C 950 Chip Set CD Rom driver for Win 95. Thanks a lot From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 05:54:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA03681 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyburbia.bns.com.au (cyburbia.bns.com.au [203.19.43.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA03674 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from justin@localhost) by cyburbia.bns.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA13732; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:29:55 GMT Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 22:29:55 +0000 () From: Justin Viiret To: Steve Reid cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't run Java applets in Netscape Atlas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 May 1996, Steve Reid wrote: I played with some settings some more, and I think I've fixed the problem... > "Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background" I'm fairly sure that this is because you're running in 8 bit colour... correct me if I'm wrong, but I think moving up to a higher colour depth would fix this. It isn't really going to affect things after the applet is fully loaded anyway. > "Applet can't start: error: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: findSystemClass" > > Any suggestions? Found this. When it loads, Netscape checks the CLASSPATH variable for the location of the moz3_0.zip or whatever class file it uses; since you installed the JDK, you would have this set to the standard Sun JDK class file, which Netscape doesn't like to use. Try either clearing the CLASSPATH variable or setting it to the Mozilla class file and re-logging in. Worked for me. :) /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Justin Viiret Cyburbia Network Services | | justin@cyburbia.bns.com.au Co-sysadmin | | http://cyburbia.bns.com.au/~justin A96 Music Competition (dis)Organiser | \------------------[Relax, it's only ones and zeroes.]--------------------/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 07:24:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA07945 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 07:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07935 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 07:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 May 96 10:25 GMT-0400 From: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: New Release Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is the New Release of FreeBSD Ready? If so can I have the 1st CD? :-)Sean From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 08:27:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA10935 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crash.ops.neosoft.com (root@crash.ops.NeoSoft.COM [206.109.4.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10867 Sat, 4 May 1996 08:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by crash.ops.neosoft.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA06767; Sat, 4 May 1996 10:27:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Daniel Baker Message-Id: <199605041527.KAA06767@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: Compiling today's -STABLE To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:27:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey.. Has anyone else had any problems with compiling today's -STABLE? Right towards the end of the make world, I get a: ===> usr.bin/dig cc -O -I/usr/src/usr.bin/dig/../../usr.sbin/nslookup -o dig dig.o debug.o list.o send.o subr.o debug.o: Undefined symbol `_iso_ntoa' referenced from text segment list.o: Undefined symbol `_iso_ntoa' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Any ideas? Daniel -- Daniel Baker (dbaker@neosoft.com) Network Operations Technician -- NeoSoft, Inc. Opinions expressed are mine From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 08:45:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA12413 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pina1 (pina1.telecom.at [194.37.252.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12407 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from async8.pinrt4.telecom.at (async8.pinrt4.telecom.at [194.118.2.108]) by pina1 (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA48198; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:16:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199605041516.RAA48198@pina1> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Franz Hollerer" To: "Angel G. Ortiz" <"angelo"@fau.campus.mci.net> Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:19:47 +0000 Subject: Re: Can't open /var/db/moundtab CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Angel G. Ortiz wrote: > > Each time I reboot my system I get the following message: > > "mountd[83]: Can't open /var/db/mountdtab." > > Both the path and file exist. Can you tell me what I need to do in > order to get rid of this message? > > Thanks, > Angel > > chmod a+rw /var/db/moundtab Franz EEG, Hard&Software Development Austria We have no kangaroos. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 08:45:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA12434 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pina1 (pina1.telecom.at [194.37.252.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12421 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from async8.pinrt4.telecom.at (async8.pinrt4.telecom.at [194.118.2.108]) by pina1 (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA48200; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:16:25 +0200 Message-Id: <199605041516.RAA48200@pina1> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Franz Hollerer" To: Anton Nossik Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:19:48 +0000 Subject: Re: Booting Win95+FreeBSD CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anton Nossik wrote: > > I have two IDE hard disks with FreeBSD installed on master and Win95 on > slave. Somehow, Win95 won't boot from FreeBSD boot manager - when it > displays its options, I press F5 for disk2, on disk2 I have Win95 boot > thingy, but it proceeds with loading FreeBSD from disk1 nevertheless... I don't have experience with Win95, but usually this configuration does not work with comercial products (SCO, DOS, OS/2). The MBR of FreeBSD calls the Bootloader of Win95, but Win95 wants to boot from the first harddisk. The following may work: Install the FreeBSD MBR on the Win95 disk. Then you have to edit /etc/fstab in FreeBSD. FreeBSD must know where to find partitions. For this change wd0* to wd1* (see below). If you have done this use the Win95 disk as master and FreeBSD as slave. It would also be recommended to make a boot disk and a fixit disk. example for /etc/fstab: /dev/wd1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd1b none swap sw 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 Franz EEG, Hard&Software Development Austria We have no kangaroos. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 10:03:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA15862 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 10:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp0.zyzzyva.com [198.183.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15821 Sat, 4 May 1996 10:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) id MAA12558; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:02:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605041702.MAA12558@sierra.zyzzyva.com> X-Authentication-Warning: sierra.zyzzyva.com: mail set sender to using -f Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1) by sierra via smap (V1.3) id sma012554; Sat May 4 12:02:36 1996 To: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov Subject: Re: /compat code on -stable In-reply-to: alexei's message of Fri, 03 May 1996 15:27:33 -0700. <199605032227.PAA11331@albion.loach.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 12:01:15 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Could someone point me to a howto on running IBCS2, Linux and perhaps > > BSDI binaries? I searched in the various FAQ's, Handbook, etc. and > > can't come up with the magic. > > > > Thanks > > If you are told somehting and they don't send it to the list, would you > mind cc-ing me? > > --Alexei I figured this out finally. I'm CCing the list since I did not find this information in one location, rather spread between several different mails in the archive. My main motivation was running Netscape, but I would also like to know what is required for IBCS2 and BSDI. I'm running a mostly -stable system. What I did... * Create /compat/linux * Install the linux_lib-1.0.tgz package found on freefall * recompiled kernel with 'options COMPAT_LINUX' (necessary?) * loaded the /lkm/linux_mod.o with the following: modstat | grep _linux || modload -u -o /tmp/linux_mod -e \ linux_init -q /lkm/linux_mod.o * Added the following to environment (/etc/profile) RESOLV_HOST_CONF=/compat/linux/etc/host.conf; export RESOLV_HOST_CONF XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB; export XKEYSYMDB XNLSPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls; export XNLSPATH XAPPLRESDIR=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults; export XAPPLRESDIR * Added the following to /compat/linux/etc/host.conf order hosts, bind * Installed nls.dir from Netscape distribution Gotchas along the way.... * I had to remove the Linux ELF support that I had been using with NetBSD. I assume that I cannot run Linux ELF under FreeBSD. * Netscape got EOT with the nls.dir that I had been using from R6. Known problem, but did not seem to bother it on NetBSD. * Figuring out syntax to modload LKMs From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 11:15:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA18348 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nol.net (root@dazed.nol.net [206.126.32.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18343 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dazed.nol.net (blh@dazed.nol.net [206.126.32.101]) by nol.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03239 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 13:14:11 -0500 (CDT) X-AUTH: NOLNET SENDMAIL AUTH Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 13:14:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brett L. Hawn" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: interesting problem w/ snap-96050 install process Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk after screwing up my freebsd pretty bad I decied to re-install using the latest SNAP, no problem right.. you're right except for one minor hitch (could just be me). I'm installing on a p100 w/32mb ram, 3 428mb IDE harddrives, 3 32mb swap partitions, 32mb / partition, and plenty of space dedicated to /var /home and /home. The install itself wen dandy up until about halfway through my installation of a fair # of pacakges. Suddenly about halfway through the install I started getting the following error: proc: table is full As you can gues I'm not overly enthused about re-installing all those missed packages by hand. I'm not exactly sure what caused this error as its still tossing around as I write this from another machine. Brett L. Hawn From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 11:52:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA19704 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.os.com (venus.os.com [199.232.136.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19689 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA13336; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:55:18 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Craig Shrimpton To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FTP keeps hanging around after transfers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I've been getting a lot of these in ps ax. What is keeping these ftp sessions from shutting down? This one has been hanging for three days. 101234 ?? IW 0:04.49 -lynx.viewlogic.com: della: STOR teldix.zip (ftpd) I'm running a stock 2.1.0-RELEASE. Do I need to upgrade something? Thanks, Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 12:42:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA22261 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com ([207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22256 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA13381 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:39:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: whistle.com: smap set sender to using -f Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma013379; Sat May 4 12:39:34 1996 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA25958 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:39:41 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199605041939.MAA25958@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: xntpd server To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:39:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How does one get xntpd running on a server so that local machines can use it for time synchronization (clients using ntpdate)? Even though xntpd is running and there are some packets exchanged (detected with EtherNet sniffer), the ntpdate command on the client yeilds "no suitable servers for synchronization found" ... I'd like to have the server synchronizing from some "unspecified" source, for now external Internet servers but in the future possibly a radio. So in either case, the server would service requests using whatever the system time was. Accuracy & precision are not a big concern here, just having some type of local sycnhronization service. The clients can't ntpdate directly via the Internet servers due to a firewall. Thanks, -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@whistle.com * Whistle Communications Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 12:45:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA22463 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22458 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UBC.ubc.ca (port19.annex2.net.ubc.ca [137.82.220.119]) by unixg.ubc.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05244 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <318BB318.4D84@unixg.ubc.ca> Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 12:42:16 -0700 From: wayne tamagi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: problems with installation X-URL: http://www.freebsd.com/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I have just installed Freebsd on my harddrive. My drive is partitioned with Windows 95 on the C and Freebsd on the D. After installing Freebsd I tried a bootup and nothing would happen. The system stops. Do I need to change some of the hardware configuration setting? WAyne From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 12:45:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA22496 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv.compuland.com.br ([200.255.96.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA22476 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helio@localhost) by sv.compuland.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA04324 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 May 1996 16:21:20 -0300 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 16:21:20 -0300 From: Helio Coelho Junior Message-Id: <199605041921.QAA04324@sv.compuland.com.br> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cops for FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a port fo COPS to FreeBSD ? I got the stock version. It works, but I don't know about the system checks (the checks that refer to each system). I used the sun option, but I don't know if it's the best choice. TIA! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 13:10:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA23459 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 13:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23454 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 13:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA106773 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:10:46 GMT Received: from slip166-72-218-98.il.us.ibm.net(166.72.218.98) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaAAUDmb; Sat May 4 20:10:36 1996 Message-ID: <318BB959.11E9@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 15:08:57 -0500 From: Jeff Genender Organization: Savoir Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PANIC: Cannot mount root X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello to anybody: I realllllllyyyyy need some help. I have installed ( and this is no joke or lie) FreebSD 42 times on my computer trying every configuration under the sun and I now believe I am either going crazy, missing a configuration, or have one of those quarky systems that won't let FreeBSD run. Any how, I have a Gateway 2000 Pentium 90Mhz with 40 Mb RAM a 1Gig EIDE drive with a Mitsumi EIDE CD Rom, and an Adaptec 1542CF with 2 1Gig hard drives. The system is set up as follows: EIDE ---- 1 Gig Hard Drive - 1 Partition with DOS, Windows 95, and Windows NT. Uses the Windows NT loader. Mitsumi EIDE CD - FX400 Adaptec 1542CF -------------- Drive 1 (SCSI 0) (0x81) - Known as the 'D:' drive and is one large extended Dos partition. Drive 2 (SCSI 1) (0x82) - First 600 MB partitioned as NTFS drive and the Next 405MB partitioned as FreeBSD The problem is, I can install FreeBSD without any problem. I then go to boot (with the floppy) and type in sd(1,a)/kernel (for the second drive) and it does nothing. I then type in sd(2,a)/kernel and it begins to boot and I then get the famous 'PANIC: Cannot mount root'. I have tried booting with every type of combination and I still get the PANIC message. In addition, I tried to erase the NTFS partition and give the whole drive to FreeBSD. No luck, same message. I have also tried swapping SCSI logical numbers (making the second disk SCSI 0 and the first disk SCSI 1), but as you probably already guessed, no luck again. The only other think I can think of is that maybe the disk itself will need to boot. If this is true, how can I get the boot manager (the one that comes with FreeBSD of course) boot this drive from the C drive? It won't even recognize that FreeBSD is on the SCSI second drive. Does anyone have any ideas? I will try anything that I already haven't done. Thanks!!!!!!!! Jeff Genender jgenend@ibm.net -- //Jeff Genender //Savoir Technologies //jgenend@ibm.net // //"Providing Systems Solutions to Business" -- //Jeff Genender //Savoir Technologies //jgenend@ibm.net // //"Providing Systems Solutions to Business" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 13:30:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA24401 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 13:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from covina.lightside.com (covina.lightside.com [198.81.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24363 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 13:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.81.209.40] by covina.lightside.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uFnxf-0004JXC; Sat, 4 May 96 13:29 PDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 13:28:19 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: eharley@covina.lightside.com (eharley) Subject: kernel install time Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk what is the estimated install time kernel compiling on a 386sx-25? Eric From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 14:12:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA27278 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harbor.silcom.com (harbor.silcom.com [199.201.128.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27261 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beach.silcom.com (root@beach.silcom.com [199.201.128.19]) by harbor.silcom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA20829 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:12:38 -0700 Received: from pm1-23.sba.silcom.com by beach.silcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id OAA13069; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:04:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199605042104.OAA13069@beach.silcom.com> Date: Sat, 04 May 96 14:27:51 -0700 From: Mark Wheeler X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing FreeBSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been having some problems with creating the Boot floppy via rawrite & boot.flp. I have downloaded these files several times and created the boot disk several times but when I try to boot up my system (Hardware is all approved in the supported hardware section of your web site.) it just ignores the floppy and boots from the hard disk. I have tried this with a non-partitioned disk that has been low-level formatted and the system just hangs out. What am I doing wrong? I think I have followed your directions thouroughly but of no avail. Could you contact my at the following phone or e-mail? Mark Wheeler - email verulan@msn.com voice phone (home) 805-684-4143 work phone 800-980-9960 Please leave a message for me if I am not at these phones when you try to contact me. Thank you for your time. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 14:51:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA01552 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01535 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA02767; Sat, 4 May 1996 16:53:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 16:53:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Mark Wheeler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199605042104.OAA13069@beach.silcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You may have to enable the floppy seek at boot and the boot order A: C: in your CMOS. Mike On Sat, 4 May 1996, Mark Wheeler wrote: > I have been having some problems with creating the Boot floppy via > rawrite & boot.flp. I have downloaded these files several times > and created the boot disk several times but when I try to boot up > my system (Hardware is all approved in the supported hardware section > of your web site.) it just ignores the floppy and boots from the > hard disk. I have tried this with a non-partitioned disk that has been > low-level formatted and the system just hangs out. What am I doing > wrong? I think I have followed your directions thouroughly but of no > avail. Could you contact my at the following phone or e-mail? > > Mark Wheeler - email verulan@msn.com > voice phone (home) 805-684-4143 > work phone 800-980-9960 > Please leave a message for me if I am not at these phones when you > try to contact me. > Thank you for your time. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 15:08:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05265 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from expresslane.ca (expresslane.ca [205.233.74.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05243 Sat, 4 May 1996 15:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (james@localhost) by expresslane.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06568; Sat, 4 May 1996 18:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 18:08:07 -0400 (EDT) From: James FitzGibbon To: Daniel Baker cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Compiling today's -STABLE In-Reply-To: <199605041527.KAA06767@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 May 1996, Daniel Baker wrote: > Has anyone else had any problems with compiling today's -STABLE? > > Right towards the end of the make world, I get a: > > ===> usr.bin/dig > cc -O -I/usr/src/usr.bin/dig/../../usr.sbin/nslookup -o dig dig.o debug.o list.o send.o subr.o > debug.o: Undefined symbol `_iso_ntoa' referenced from text segment > list.o: Undefined symbol `_iso_ntoa' referenced from text segment I had this problem when I built -current and went to put -stable in. Most of my problems related to the fact that libc has been upgraded from v2.2 to v3.0 between stable and current. I had to take out all the binaries, replace them with 2.1, re-sup stable, and make world, but it does work. -- j. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | James FitzGibbon james@expresslane.ca | | Technical Operations Voice/Fax: 416-239-3765/3279 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 15:31:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA06626 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06619 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd04.thehub.com.au (dd04.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.124]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA22215 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 08:28:24 +1000 Received: by dd04.thehub.com.au with Microsoft Mail id <01BB3A5E.35532980@dd04.thehub.com.au>; Sun, 5 May 1996 08:38:17 +-1000 Message-ID: <01BB3A5E.35532980@dd04.thehub.com.au> From: Greg Laslett To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Using Free BSD to do proxy routing Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 08:38:07 +-1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a local TCP network using a 192.168... addressing scheme as per = the convention for non internet networks. One of these nodes is a BSD = PC which also has a PPP 203.17... connection into the internet. I would like the other hosts to be able to web browse, telnet, ftp etc = without spilling 192.168 packets into the outside world. Can things be = set up so that the BSD PC does proxy requests on behalf of the other = nodes ? I read information about 'routed' which I have set to '-q' on my BSD PC. = I also see references to 'gated' but their appears to be no man page. = The PPP software seems to let me filter everything in sundry but I don't = spy any information about proxy routing. I imagine my scenerio is a very common one. Could someone please fill = me in on how to go about achieving the above. Regards, Greg Laslett. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 15:39:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA06953 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06947 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 May 96 18:40 GMT-0400 From: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: New Release Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk when will FreeBSD 2.1.1 be ready for release? If you have any CD available can you send me one A.S.A.P. I've been waiting for quite some time to use my CD player. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 15:41:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07105 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07100 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 May 96 18:43 GMT-0400 From: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Programming Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How does one decome a member of the FreeBSD development team? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 15:49:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07415 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yu.rogidi.com ([206.130.183.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07409 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pyu@localhost) by yu.rogidi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00587; Sat, 4 May 1996 10:40:33 GMT Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:40:33 GMT Message-Id: <199605041040.KAA00587@yu.rogidi.com> To: sarrazip@CS.McGill.CA Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vi and char code >=128 In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 2 May 1996 14:55:51 -0400. <199605021855.OAA27895@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> From: pyu@rogidi.com (Patrick Hong Kin Yu) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.19] 1995-07/21(Fri) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 15:59:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07871 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07864 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00385; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:58:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 15:58:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: Justin Viiret cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't run Java applets in Netscape Atlas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > "Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background" > I'm fairly sure that this is because you're running in 8 bit colour... Unfortunately, my little 512k video card (integrated on the motherboard) is incabable of more than 8 bits per pixel. :( > > "Applet can't start: error: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: findSystemClass" > Found this. When it loads, Netscape checks the CLASSPATH variable for the > location of the moz3_0.zip or whatever class file it uses; since you > installed the JDK, you would have this set to the standard Sun JDK class > file, which Netscape doesn't like to use. Try either clearing the > CLASSPATH variable or setting it to the Mozilla class file and re-logging > in. Worked for me. :) Ah, okay... I unset the CLASSPATH variable in the shell script that runs netscape, and it gets a bit farther, but I still can't seem to do anything with applets... They load, and everything pretends to be fine, but I can't actually do anything with the applets. For instance, the TicTacToe demo applet, it shows the #-shaped board, but I can't do anything with it. With other applets, I can usually see a different shade of gray where the applet would appear, but that's all. Any other ideas? ====================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E6 8C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, IANAL. -- | ====================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:04:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA17594 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17519 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 May 96 20:05 GMT-0400 From: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Urgent Help Required Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yesterday I was creating some virtual terminals and did a MAKEDEV all and accidently destroyed my drivers which load my system. When it boots It's unable to read the partition wd0s2f, wd0s2b and how the the filesystem is readonly. How can I mount the root filesystem as read and write and rebuild those two files? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:06:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA18075 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18064 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA09207; Sun, 5 May 1996 09:38:38 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605050008.JAA09207@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: New Release To: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 09:38:37 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Sean Batson" at May 4, 96 10:25:00 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Batson stands accused of saying: > > Is the New Release of FreeBSD Ready? What new release? How about you subscribe to Freebsd-announce and stop asking pointless questions? > If so can I have the 1st CD? If you want to be in early, _SUBSCRIBE_. Then you won't even have to ask, it'll just turn up on your doorstep when it's ready. > :-)Sean Not very funny. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:09:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA18585 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18567 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA09240; Sun, 5 May 1996 09:42:42 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605050012.JAA09240@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Can't open /var/db/moundtab To: eeg@telecom.at (Franz Hollerer) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 09:42:41 +0930 (CST) Cc: "angelo"@fau.campus.mci.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605041516.RAA48198@pina1> from "Franz Hollerer" at May 4, 96 05:19:47 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Franz Hollerer stands accused of saying: > > Angel G. Ortiz wrote: > > > > Each time I reboot my system I get the following message: > > > > "mountd[83]: Can't open /var/db/mountdtab." > > > > Both the path and file exist. Can you tell me what I need to do in > > order to get rid of this message? The file doesn't exist, due to a typo in the installer. # mv /var/db/mountdbtab /var/db/mountdtab Be more careful in checking filenames. > chmod a+rw /var/db/moundtab DO NOT DO THIS. Are you _nuts_? > Franz -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:17:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA20203 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20185 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA09256; Sun, 5 May 1996 09:49:45 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605050019.JAA09256@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: PANIC: Cannot mount root To: jgenend@ibm.net (Jeff Genender) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 09:49:44 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <318BB959.11E9@ibm.net> from "Jeff Genender" at May 4, 96 03:08:57 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jeff Genender stands accused of saying: > > The problem is, I can install FreeBSD without any problem. I then go to > boot (with the floppy) and type in sd(1,a)/kernel (for the second drive) > and it does nothing. I then type in sd(2,a)/kernel and it begins to > boot and I then get the famous 'PANIC: Cannot mount root'. I have tried The BIOS drive numbers and SCSI minor numbers are out of sync. This is addressed in newer bootblocks, but you should be able to boot hd(1,a)/kernel without any problems. If this works, look in /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot and modify the Makefile and boot.c to default to this. If you can't work that out, come back and we'll talk you through it. > Jeff Genender -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:18:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA20329 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20320 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UBC.ubc.ca (port20.annex2.net.ubc.ca [137.82.220.120]) by unixg.ubc.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24875 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960505001507.006c8acc@pop.unixg.ubc.ca> X-Sender: wtamagi@pop.unixg.ubc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 17:15:07 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Wayne Tamagi Subject: boot up problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I am having problems with installing Freebsd. I have installed it many times and have come up unsuccessful throughout the job. My IDE drive is partitioned and I have Windows 95 on the C drive and I did an install from C drive onto my D drive. The D drive is dedicated for Freebsd. I stripped down my configuration settings for all my hardware. I have been doing a minimal installation. I've read some troubleshooting and it states it is likely it is the disk geometry. So I checked it after the first installation and it was wrong so I set it up to the assummed settings. I went into CMOS to find it. I have an IBM OS/2 IDE drive 730MB. In CMOS it showed the geometry as 1416/16/63 (cylinders/heads/sectos per track). I used these setting and re-installed FreeBsd and bootup and the results were even worse! At the bootup manager when I enter F2 it did not go to: >>FreeBSD Boot... Use hd(1,a)/kernel to boot sd0 when wd0 is also installed etc... My computer would just hang and I can see the hard drive is running constantly (red light on front is on). Can anyone advise me what I can do? Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:29:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22090 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22079 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA28289 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:35:10 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199605041735.RAA28289@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: S/Key To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:35:10 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Is there a port of S/key for FreeBSD ? Thanks. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:34:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22302 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyburbia.bns.com.au (cyburbia.bns.com.au [203.19.43.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22283 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from justin@localhost) by cyburbia.bns.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA22591; Sun, 5 May 1996 10:09:36 GMT Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 10:09:35 +0000 () From: Justin Viiret To: Steve Reid cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't run Java applets in Netscape Atlas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 May 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > > > "Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background" > > I'm fairly sure that this is because you're running in 8 bit colour... > Unfortunately, my little 512k video card (integrated on the motherboard) is > incabable of more than 8 bits per pixel. :( Shouldn't be any problem... if you really want to, you can run netscape with the -install parameter, which will install its own colourmap. > Ah, okay... I unset the CLASSPATH variable in the shell script that runs > netscape, and it gets a bit farther, but I still can't seem to do > anything with applets... They load, and everything pretends to be fine, > but I can't actually do anything with the applets. For instance, the > TicTacToe demo applet, it shows the #-shaped board, but I can't do > anything with it. With other applets, I can usually see a different shade > of gray where the applet would appear, but that's all. This is news to me :) Things seem to work fine for me... perhaps someone else can help? /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Justin Viiret Cyburbia Network Services | | justin@cyburbia.bns.com.au Co-sysadmin | | http://cyburbia.bns.com.au/~justin A96 Music Competition (dis)Organiser | \------------------[Relax, it's only ones and zeroes.]--------------------/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:47:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22629 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vent.pipex.net (root@vent.pipex.net [158.43.128.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22619 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dial.pipex.com by vent.pipex.net (8.6.12/PIPEX simple 1.20) id BAA05792; Sun, 5 May 1996 01:47:33 +0100 Received: (from jraynard@localhost) by dial.pipex.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA06242; Sun, 5 May 1996 00:19:02 GMT Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 00:19:02 GMT From: James Raynard Message-Id: <199605050019.AAA06242@dial.pipex.com> To: eeg@telecom.at CC: "angelo"@fau.campus.mci.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605041516.RAA48198@pina1> (eeg@telecom.at) Subject: Re: Can't open /var/db/moundtab Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Franz Hollerer" writes: > > Angel G. Ortiz wrote: > > > > Each time I reboot my system I get the following message: > > > > "mountd[83]: Can't open /var/db/mountdtab." > > > > Both the path and file exist. Are you sure? The 2.1 install names it as /var/db/mountdbtab (presumably a typo somewhere). > chmod a+rw /var/db/moundtab This file is accessed by a daemon, so making it world writeable might be a security hole. The permissions should be -rw-rw-r-- 1 nobody wheel 0 Nov 18 21:07 /var/db/mountdbtab Going back to the original problem, the simplest solution is # ln -s /var/db/mountdbtab /var/db/mountdtab -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:52:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22801 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22796 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA28713 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:58:31 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199605041758.RAA28713@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: S/key To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:58:31 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Sorry for previous mail about S/key. FreeBSD does support S/Key except that I couldn't locate the source code in usr.bin. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:56:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA22950 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22945 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA18443; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:44:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605050044.RAA18443@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Can't run Java applets in Netscape Atlas To: root@edmweb.com (Steve Reid) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:44:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: justin@cyburbia.bns.com.au, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Steve Reid" at May 4, 96 03:58:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ah, okay... I unset the CLASSPATH variable in the shell script that runs > netscape, and it gets a bit farther, but I still can't seem to do > anything with applets... They load, and everything pretends to be fine, > but I can't actually do anything with the applets. For instance, the > TicTacToe demo applet, it shows the #-shaped board, but I can't do > anything with it. With other applets, I can usually see a different shade > of gray where the applet would appear, but that's all. What window manager are you running? Openwin? If so, did you set "InputFocusLenience TRUE"? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 17:59:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA23099 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23091 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA18463; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:50:52 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605050050.RAA18463@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PANIC: Cannot mount root To: jgenend@ibm.net (Jeff Genender) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:50:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <318BB959.11E9@ibm.net> from "Jeff Genender" at May 4, 96 03:08:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1 Gig Hard Drive - 1 Partition with DOS, Windows 95, and Windows NT. > Uses the Windows NT loader. > > Mitsumi EIDE CD - FX400 > > Adaptec 1542CF > -------------- > Drive 1 (SCSI 0) (0x81) - Known as the 'D:' drive and is one large > extended Dos partition. > > Drive 2 (SCSI 1) (0x82) - First 600 MB partitioned as NTFS drive and the > Next 405MB partitioned as FreeBSD > > The problem is, I can install FreeBSD without any problem. I then go to > boot (with the floppy) and type in sd(1,a)/kernel (for the second drive) > and it does nothing. I then type in sd(2,a)/kernel and it begins to > boot and I then get the famous 'PANIC: Cannot mount root'. I have tried > booting with every type of combination and I still get the PANIC > message. In addition, I tried to erase the NTFS partition and give the > whole drive to FreeBSD. No luck, same message. I have also tried > swapping SCSI logical numbers (making the second disk SCSI 0 and the > first disk SCSI 1), but as you probably already guessed, no luck again. You are tying to boot off a drive not in the BIOS boot chain, since I assume your IDE is your boot device. You can use the NT boot loader to load the BSD boot blocks (recently posted to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, and posted rather regularly to this [-questions] list). But you will have to modify the BSD boot code, which only recognizes the first and second bootable devices (definitely *not* your second SCSI drive on your secondary disk controller). Basically, you need to either recompile with a different "root on sd1a" or hack the sys/i386/machdep.c boot device designation. It's no suprise that when the BSD loader comes up, your DX register is not 0x083, since what you are trying to do really isn't supported by the BIOS, the MBR on your first drive, or (by default) BSD. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 19:14:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA26735 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26726 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sls28.asb.com (sls28.asb.com [165.254.128.38]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA17399 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:29:50 -0400 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing FreeBSD Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 02:14:08 GMT Organization: Just me and I'm not organized Message-ID: <318c0ec9.7340506@unix.asb.com> References: <199605042104.OAA13069@beach.silcom.com> In-Reply-To: <199605042104.OAA13069@beach.silcom.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a thinkpad 701c and when I try to boot with the boot disk in the floppy drive it just blinks the floppy light once or twice and hangs. I can boot from dos (dr dos 6 and pcdos 6) boot floppies and from OS/2 boot floppies so I know the hardware works. I d/l'd the boot.flp and rawrite with two different OS/2 ftp programs and a dos one and they all do exactly the same thing. Rawrite appears to work, no errors and the floppy disk has been used for other things and surface scanned and is OK. I prefer to get FreeBSD working rather than trying to install Linux, anyone got any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 19:25:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA27566 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27557 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00560; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:24:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:24:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't run Java applets in Netscape Atlas In-Reply-To: <199605050044.RAA18443@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > TicTacToe demo applet, it shows the #-shaped board, but I can't do > > anything with it. With other applets, I can usually see a different shade > > of gray where the applet would appear, but that's all. > What window manager are you running? Openwin? If so, did you set > "InputFocusLenience TRUE"? Using FVWM. ====================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E6 8C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, IANAL. -- | ====================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 20:21:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA02542 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02483 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA09630; Sun, 5 May 1996 12:54:14 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605050324.MAA09630@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Can't run Java applets... Please help To: root@edmweb.com (Steve Reid) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 12:54:14 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve Reid" at May 4, 96 01:42:27 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Reid stands accused of saying: > > I've downloaded the Netscape 3 (Atlas) beta, and I'm fairly certain that > I have installed everything right. I downloaded the port and typed > "make", then moved the files to the places named in the PLIST file (maybe > I should have tried "make install" instead?) The browser works fine, but > it won't run java applets: You should have used 'make install'. > "Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background" This message is harmless, but it's not related to your problem. The problem you are mostlijkely experiencing is that XFree86 as shipped with FreeBSD has an incorrect fonts.dir file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc. # cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc # mkfontdir > At the bottom line where it sometimes shows scrolling text, there is the > message > > "Applet can't start: error: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: findSystemClass" Dunno that one. > I have the JDK, and I'm able to compile and run a simple HelloWorld > application. But when I try to run appletviewer on the demo applets, it > dies: > > Can't find shared library "Xm" (/usr/java/lib/i386/libawt.so) Looks like you need Motif; that's what the Xm library is. Also, I can't imagine anything being installed as /usr/java on a BSD system. > Can't find shared library "Xm" (/usr/java/bin/../lib/i386/libawt.so) > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no awt in shared library path > [along with a bunch of other errors cauesd by not finding libawt.so] > > ldconfig -r shows that libc_r.so.2.2, libfakesys.so.1.0 and libc.so.3.0 > in the /usr/java/lib/i386 directory, but that's all. I don't know why > it would find those files but not libawt.so, which *is* in the same > directory as the other three. AFAIK, shared library names must conform to libname.so.major.minor, so 'libawt.so' is possibly not recognised by ldconfig. > | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 20:37:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA04892 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vegemite.Stanford.EDU (vegemite.Stanford.EDU [171.65.76.158]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA04885 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (hlew@localhost) by vegemite.Stanford.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.4) id UAA11647; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 20:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: Anton Nossik cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting Win95+FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960504120548.006ed580@zaraza.netmedia.net.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 May 1996, Anton Nossik wrote: > Hello, > > I have two IDE hard disks with FreeBSD installed on master and Win95 on > slave. Somehow, Win95 won't boot from FreeBSD boot manager - when it > displays its options, I press F5 for disk2, on disk2 I have Win95 boot > thingy, but it proceeds with loading FreeBSD from disk1 nevertheless... > > Any help will be much appreciated. Easiest fix is to set the Win95 drive to master and FreeBSD to slave (just redo the jumpers). || Shoppers Network BEST PRICES, FULLY x86 COMPATIBLE & FAST!!! || PO BOX 16627 Cyrix 686s now available! || San Francisco, CA 94116 Email - info@shoppersnet.com | ------------------------------> WWW - http://www2.shoppersnet.com -------------------------------> WWW - http://www.shoppersnet.com/shopping From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 20:47:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA06687 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aloha.com (volack@mango.aloha.com [206.43.235.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06676 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (volack@localhost) by aloha.com (8.7.3/8.6.5) id RAA12329; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:47:30 -1000 (HST) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:47:28 -1000 (HST) From: Joseph J Volack PE To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: mirror Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running 2.1.0-RELEASE. One of the ports installed is mirror. I can't seem to get it to work, even in the simplest form. I always get the "Pausing between retries" message, followed by "Cannot connect, skipping package." Ftp to the same site for the same directories works. Any ideas? Joe Volack From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 4 21:20:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12883 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.os.com (venus.os.com [199.232.136.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12864 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01061; Sun, 5 May 1996 00:24:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 00:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Craig Shrimpton To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can't traceroute to my virtual hosts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks, I have configured virtual hosts like so: ifconfig de0 inet alias x.x.x.x netmask 0xffffffff The virtual domains work fine except that I can't traceroute to them. The traceroute basically times out trying to reach the last hop. My guess is that it is due to the fact that the virtual host machine is on subnet 0xfffffff0. Ifconfig doesn't like it when I try to configure the netmask with the 0xfffffff0 mask so I'm assuming you have to use 0xffffffff. Is the inability to finish a traceroute normal behaviour for FreeBSD virtual hosts? Thanks, Craig