From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 00:12:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA04081 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 00:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from liberty.ca.idt.net (root@idt.liberty.com [199.89.140.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA04076 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 00:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gemini.abi.com (ppp187.liberty.com [199.89.140.156]) by liberty.ca.idt.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA16055 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 00:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31DF636C.41C67EA6@idt.liberty.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:12:44 -0700 From: Fred Adorno Organization: Adorno & Associates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Printing under Netscape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Now that I got netscape working under X-Windows why can't I print a file that is legible. Do I need to get a PS-Adobe reader or driver installed? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 01:02:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA05652 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA05647 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ucon9-000QejC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA15158; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:35:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199607070735.JAA15158@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help To: skrishna@cisco.com (Sridhar Krishnan) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:35:05 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: from "Sridhar Krishnan" at Jul 6, 96 02:15:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sridhar Krishnan writes: > > > Thanks taking the time to respond. > > 1. cu -l cuaa0 > says "connected". Then when I type "ATDTE1Q0", I am expecting "OK". > Nothing happens. When I quit out with ~. it takes a minute to disconnect. This looks familiar. It's really a bug of sorts in cu. From another window (or virtual terminal), do: # stty -f /dev/cuaa0 -a speed 9600 baud; 0 rows; 0 columns; lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echoke -echonl -echoctl -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho -pendin -nokerninfo -extproc iflags: -istrip -icrnl -inlcr -igncr -ixon -ixoff -ixany -imaxbel -ignbrk -brkint -inpck -ignpar -parmrk oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts -dsrflow ******* -dtrflow -mdmbuf cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ; erase = ^?; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; This shows the complete state of the line. You will probably find -clocal (i.e. local communications reset, device waiting for an incoming connection). Next enter: # stty -f /dev/cuaa0 clocal This sets clocal (in the display you see 'clocal' instead of '-clocal'). After that, things should work. > Yet another person aksed me disable PnP (plug and Play) option. I do not > know how-to. I'll give it a try. I very much doubt that that has anything to do with it. Does it have a PnP option? > 2. On fvwm, I am little confused. I start xdm as explained in the book > (via init - ttys. Ofcourse I cannot use because a wm is already running. I wouldn't have said 'of course'. If you have a window manager running, you don't need another one. Check your .xinitrc file. Maybe it already invokes a window manager. You can also enter: $ ps aux | grep wm root 15152 1.0 0.3 224 176 p5 S+ 9:33AM 0:00.03 grep wm grog 201 0.0 0.8 384 520 co S Fri06PM 0:08.53 fvwm You will probably see some other window manager, but it might be that you already have fvwm. > If I do startx, then whole bunch of X sessions start That sounds like fvwm. > but I am unable to bring up fvwm. I wouldn't be so sure :-) Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 01:04:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA05777 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA05765 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ucon7-000QegC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA15187; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:37:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199607070737.JAA15187@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:37:44 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <31DF6081.4029@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 7, 96 03:00:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler writes: > > Sridhar Krishnan wrote: >> >> Thanks taking the time to respond. >> >> 1. cu -l cuaa0 >> says "connected". Then when I type "ATDTE1Q0", I am expecting "OK". >> Nothing happens. When I quit out with ~. it takes a minute to disconnect. >> Yet another person aksed me disable PnP (plug and Play) option. I do not >> know how-to. I'll give it a try. It is an internal modem and it is hard >> to diagnose without any lights. I also tried cu -x9 -l cuaa0. Did not >> help since there is no response from the modem. It is an MWave 28.8 >> Internal modem. >> > > Combining commands and settings in the same string makes many brain > dead modems choke and puke! I haven't seen this one, but as somebody else pointed out, he's trying to dial. > For testing, Set you modem speaker on (most are default on) > ATM1L3 (should get OK) > ATDT (should get dialtone) The very first thing I do with a new modem is even simpler: AT Every modem should come back right away with OK. *Then* you can start testing the modem. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 01:53:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07799 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA07790 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab27561; 7 Jul 96 9:53 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26055; 6 Jul 96 22:27 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA02113; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:15:25 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:15:25 GMT Message-Id: <199607061915.TAA02113@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: tst@titan.cs.mci.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (tst@titan.cs.mci.com) Subject: Re: How do you write to an executable (binary)? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a program that will prompt the user for a value. I would like to > write that value to the executable (binary) file. (Using open, lseek, > write, close) Ugh. Presumably you need this for an installation program which asks for the licence number? > When I open the file I get the following error: > > "Error: Text file busy". The message number is [ETXTBSY]. >From open(2):- The named file is opened unless: [ETXTBSY] The file is a pure procedure (shared text) file that is be- ing executed and the open() call requests write access. However, it seems you *can* write to a running binary , but only if you do it interactively:- [a.out is a program that sleeps for 60 seconds and prints "Hello from a.out", temp prints "Hello world!" immediately and exits] $ ./a.out & [1] 1952 $ cat temp > a.out ksh: cannot create a.out: Text file busy $ mv temp a.out override rwxrwxr-x james/staff for a.out? y $ ./a.out Hello world! # The new a.out prints its message $ Hello from a.out # 60 seconds later, the old a.out returns > I'm able to do this with other OS. How can I get this to work with > FreeBSD? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If you *really* have to do this, rename() can write over an executing binary, however I would think very carefully about your program design first... $ cat temp.c #include #include main() { if (rename("a.out", "temp2") < 0) perror("rename"); return 0; } $ gcc temp.c $ ./temp2 & # The old temp2 - sleeps for 60 seconds and prints a message $ ./a.out $ ./temp2 rename: No such file or directory # The new temp2 can't find a.out! $ Hello from temp2 # The old temp2 returns -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 02:07:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA08635 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tav.kiev.ua (tav-sita.sita.kiev.ua [193.124.50.39]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA08613 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helg@localhost) by tav.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA20900; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:07:27 +0300 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:07:27 +0300 From: Oleg N Panashchenko Message-Id: <199607070907.MAA20900@tav.kiev.ua> To: gar@ccnet.com (Adam Capell) Subject: Re: IP masquerading possible? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Maxis Labs X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199607070053.RAA17971@ccnet4.ccnet.com> you wrote: : Is there a way to do IP masquerading under FreeBSD, so that I can : connect my network to the internet with only a single static IP : number? The best way to solve your task is to use SOCKS. Look at www.socks.com for details. SOCKS is more strict than masquerading, but it requires ability to work via socks proxy from clients. Fortunately a lot of clients (including Netscape) have this ability. Oleg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 02:31:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA10503 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wiesbaden.netsurf.de (nero.wiesbaden.netsurf.de [194.163.168.140]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA10493 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idefix by wiesbaden.netsurf.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0ucqC0-001lelC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 11:31 MET DST Message-ID: <31DF9327.2F4@wiesbaden.netsurf.de> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 12:36:23 +0200 From: Marcus John X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PC-Card + 3COM389 not recognized Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help! I´m using FreeBSD 2.1 on several platforms includung a quite modern notebook. This notebook has a CIRRUS-PC-Card Chipset connected to it´s PCI-bus. After several unsuccessful tries I´ve been not able to get a 3COM589 working with the zp-driver. Is this with this configuration possible at all? Thanks. marcus.john@wiesbaden.netsurf.de VV - dmesg-output - VV FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Jun 24 23:49:22 MET DST 1996 root@dracula:/usr/src/sys/compile/DRACULA CPU: 120-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x526 Stepping=6 Features=0x1bf real memory = 25165824 (24576K bytes) avail memory = 23195648 (22652K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0: disabled, not probed. fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1295MB (2654064 sectors), 2633 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, iordis wcd0: 689Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked zp0 not found at 0x110 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the PCI bus: pci0:0: UMC, device=0xe891, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] vga0 rev 0 on pci0:17 pci0:18: UMC, device=0xe886, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] pci0:23: Cirrus Logic, device=0x1100, class=bridge (pcmcia) [no driver assigned] From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 02:39:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA11038 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from actcom.co.il (root@actcom.co.il [192.114.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11024 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vipe.actcom.co.il by actcom.co.il with SMTP (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id MAA26873; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:38:47 +0300 (rfc931-sender: vipe.actcom.co.il [192.114.47.21]) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960707093826.00706558@mail.actcom.co.il> X-Sender: andi@mail.actcom.co.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 12:38:26 +0300 To: Doug White , Babak Sehari From: Andi Gutmans Subject: Re: Can I use Linux driver of my CD ROM with FreeBSD? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 08:59 7/6/96 -0700, Doug White wrote: >> Finally, how can I make ^D to logout in non root directory. Note that >> ^D log me out from the root directory but not from user account. hi, You should do unset ignoreeof that should enable control-d logout's Andi From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 03:49:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA15816 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 03:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (viking.ucsalf.ac.uk [192.195.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA15800 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 03:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0ucrP2-00036zC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 11:49 BST Message-Id: From: mw@theatre.pandora.sax.de (Martin Welk) Subject: Re: Root filesystem on NFS, Linux style ??? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 6 Jul 1996 21:46:37 +0200 X-Gated-To-News-By: news@ucsalf.ac.uk Xref: viking.ucsalf.ac.uk list.freebsd.chat:602 list.freebsd.questions:6985 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:21987 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <4r81kk$ovg@plato.ucsalf.ac.uk>, Mark Powell wrote: > Linux allows a kernel to be booted from DOS and then perform it's own RARP >to find it's IP and root filesystem over NFS. FreeBSD only seems to allow this >with the netboot.(com|rom) program (albeit using BOOTP.) We use this here to >allow users to turn their PC into an X terminal be selecting an option from >our DOS menu system. We currently do it with Linux. However, I'd prefer to >do it with FreeBSD, for obvious reasons. NETNOOT.COM does not work >if there is already a network driver loaded, as there is in our case. >Is there anything afoot allow the kernel to be configured with some of >the netboot.com functionality into the kernel? I experienced that QEMM screws up when running NETBOOT, so I simply created a boot menu under MS-DOS 6.22 and let people choose it at boot time - no network driver conflicts, no memory manager conflicts. -- /| /| | /| / ,,You know, there's a lot of opportunities, / |/ | artin |/ |/ elk if you're knowing to take them, you know, there's a lot of opportunities, Meissen, Germany, Europe if there aren't you can make them, mw@theatre.pandora.sax.de make or break them!'' (Tennant/Lowe) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 03:53:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA16064 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 03:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor (dslip10.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.8.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA16057; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 03:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor (krondor [127.0.0.1]) by krondor (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA15116; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:46:20 +1000 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:46:19 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@krondor To: Gary Palmer cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motif & others In-Reply-To: <16021.836545564@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > > 3. Is Motif available to FreeBSD (XFree86)? > > Yes. There are several different Motif versions for FreeBSD. I believe > that several people recomment the one released by X Inside, Inc > (http://www.xinside.com/) > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info Do you need to run X Inside's X server to be able to use their Motif ? Also, does anyone have any comments on Moo-Tiff as an alternative. thanks, Carey Nairn From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 04:21:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA29355 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 04:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29165 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 04:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA19719 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:21:07 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0ucrtk-00021RC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 13:21 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA080148382; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:19:42 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199607071119.AA080148382@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: How do you write to an executable (binary)? To: tst@titan.cs.mci.com (Thomas S. Traylor) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:19:42 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Thomas S. Traylor" at Jul 6, 96 08:46:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Thomas S. Traylor wrote: > Here's what I'm trying to do: > > I have a program that will prompt the user for a value. I would like to > write that value to the executable (binary) file. (Using open, lseek, > write, close) > > Problem: > > When I open the file I get the following error: > > "Error: Text file busy". The message number is [ETXTBSY]. > > I'm able to do this with other OS. How can I get this to work with > FreeBSD? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. AFAIK, you cannot change the executable image from under itself (nor while file is in use--being executed). What you can do is: 1) copy executable to executable.new 2) edit executable.new to your heart's content (it is not in use :) 3) move executable.new to executable. Beware: all processes that started executing the executable prior to point 3) will not see the changes in the image (namely, they will still be using or having access to the *old* executable, which is basically marked deleted but referenced/in use and remains on disk until it is no longer referenced). /Marino From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 05:08:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA18798 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 05:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA18782 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 05:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-3.ime.net [206.231.148.132]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA10446; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DFA911.4617@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 08:09:53 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Annelise Anderson CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: makeing world References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I think so. The benefit of single user mode is probably also > > > (or primarily) that there's more memory available. I had 16 megs and > > > it failed without the swap partitions mounted. > > > > Welp, It's a 486DX-33 with 8megs and it completed while in > > single user. If `shutdown now` kills the swaps, then It was done > > without swap space. > > > > -Enjoy > > Gary > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Actually I think if you go to single user mode with /sbin/shutdown now, > the swap partitions are probably mounted, whereas they're not if you > start from a reboot with -s. Anyway, glad you got it done! > > Annelise > Me too.. :) Thanks for your input. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 05:22:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23988 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 05:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA23971 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 05:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-3.ime.net [206.231.148.132]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA10713; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DFAC3F.14F4@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 08:23:27 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help References: <199607070737.JAA15187@allegro.lemis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey wrote: > > Gary Chrysler writes: > > > > Sridhar Krishnan wrote: > >> > >> Thanks taking the time to respond. > >> > >> 1. cu -l cuaa0 > >> says "connected". Then when I type "ATDTE1Q0", I am expecting "OK". > >> Nothing happens. When I quit out with ~. it takes a minute to disconnect. > >> Yet another person aksed me disable PnP (plug and Play) option. I do not > >> know how-to. I'll give it a try. It is an internal modem and it is hard > >> to diagnose without any lights. I also tried cu -x9 -l cuaa0. Did not > >> help since there is no response from the modem. It is an MWave 28.8 > >> Internal modem. > >> > > > > Combining commands and settings in the same string makes many brain > > dead modems choke and puke! > > I haven't seen this one, but as somebody else pointed out, he's trying > to dial. > > > For testing, Set you modem speaker on (most are default on) > > ATM1L3 (should get OK) > > ATDT (should get dialtone) > > The very first thing I do with a new modem is even simpler: > > AT > > Every modem should come back right away with OK. *Then* you can start > testing the modem. > > Greg Yes, Greg that will work just fine as long as your modem is in echo mode (ATE1), Else it will not work! Yes, From the factory most modems have ATE1 set versus ATE0. Not something I like to bank on.. (I don't trust manufactures) I find ATDT is much easier to rely on. It can be heard, Even if your modem speaker is set to ATM0 you will get a `click` from the modem. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 05:36:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA29864 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 05:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA29841 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 05:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-3.ime.net [206.231.148.132]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA11012; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DFAF68.4E12@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 08:36:56 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Hr.Ladavac" CC: "Thomas S. Traylor" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do you write to an executable (binary)? References: <199607071119.AA080148382@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hr.Ladavac wrote: > > In his e-mail Thomas S. Traylor wrote: > > Here's what I'm trying to do: > > > > I have a program that will prompt the user for a value. I would like to > > write that value to the executable (binary) file. (Using open, lseek, > > write, close) > > > > Problem: > > > > When I open the file I get the following error: > > > > "Error: Text file busy". The message number is [ETXTBSY]. > > > > I'm able to do this with other OS. How can I get this to work with > > FreeBSD? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > AFAIK, you cannot change the executable image from under itself (nor > while file is in use--being executed). > > What you can do is: > > 1) copy executable to executable.new > 2) edit executable.new to your heart's content (it is not in use :) > 3) move executable.new to executable. > > Beware: all processes that started executing the executable prior to point > 3) will not see the changes in the image (namely, they will still be using > or having access to the *old* executable, which is basically marked deleted > but referenced/in use and remains on disk until it is no longer referenced). > > /Marino Seems to me like it would be easier to whip up a setup program. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 06:13:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA15519 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 06:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA15504 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 06:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ucte6-000QesC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:13 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA16401; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 14:39:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199607071239.OAA16401@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 14:39:40 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <31DFAC3F.14F4@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 7, 96 08:23:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler writes: > > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> Gary Chrysler writes: >>> >>> Sridhar Krishnan wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks taking the time to respond. >>>> >>>> 1. cu -l cuaa0 >>>> says "connected". Then when I type "ATDTE1Q0", I am expecting "OK". >>>> Nothing happens. When I quit out with ~. it takes a minute to disconnect. >>>> Yet another person aksed me disable PnP (plug and Play) option. I do not >>>> know how-to. I'll give it a try. It is an internal modem and it is hard >>>> to diagnose without any lights. I also tried cu -x9 -l cuaa0. Did not >>>> help since there is no response from the modem. It is an MWave 28.8 >>>> Internal modem. >>>> >>> >>> Combining commands and settings in the same string makes many brain >>> dead modems choke and puke! >> >> I haven't seen this one, but as somebody else pointed out, he's trying >> to dial. >> >>> For testing, Set you modem speaker on (most are default on) >>> ATM1L3 (should get OK) >>> ATDT (should get dialtone) >> >> The very first thing I do with a new modem is even simpler: >> >> AT >> >> Every modem should come back right away with OK. *Then* you can start >> testing the modem. >> >> Greg > > Yes, Greg that will work just fine as long as your modem is in > echo mode (ATE1), Else it will not work! Yes, From the factory > most modems have ATE1 set versus ATE0. > Not something I like to bank on.. (I don't trust manufactures) > > I find ATDT is much easier to rely on. It can be heard, Even > if your modem speaker is set to ATM0 you will get a `click` from > the modem. Those are some good arguments. I suppose this is a classical case of YMMV: I just tried it out (on a BSD/OS box, thus the different device name. On FreeBSD I just have ISDN connections). $ cu -s 38400 -l /dev/tty01 Connected. at OK atm3 OK atl3 OK atdt NO CARRIER ate0 OK OK OK at OK And yes, I got a click from the speaker. But I didn't get a dial tone, for some reason, just a disconnect tone after a while. The trouble with this method is that it requires you to have a dial tone. On the other hand, I'm prepared to accept that not all modems will still generate an OK when ate0 is set, so you'll probably have to try a number of these methods. But you can be pretty sure that nothing is getting to the modem in the first place if you have -clocal set. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 07:27:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA17658 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17638 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 07:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21590; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:26:46 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:26:45 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Carey Nairn cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motif & others In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Carey Nairn wrote: > Do you need to run X Inside's X server to be able to use their Motif ? No. That would be very much against the philosophy of X being a a platform independent, networked graphical terminal system. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 07:33:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19445 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 07:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19424 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 07:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id PAA23946; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:33:22 +0100 (BST) To: Carey Nairn cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Motif & others In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jul 1996 12:46:19 +1000." Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 15:33:22 +0100 Message-ID: <23944.836750002@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Carey Nairn wrote in message ID : > Do you need to run X Inside's X server to be able to use their Motif ? No. It's a separate product AFAIK. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 08:25:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04162 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04123 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA00338; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 11:30:01 GMT Message-Id: <199607071130.LAA00338@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Printer & Sound (strange) problem To: otto@hol.gr (Syntichakis Christopher) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 11:30:01 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <199607071039.IAA12589@prometheus.hol.gr> from Syntichakis Christopher at "Jul 7, 96 08:39:09 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Syntichakis Christopher wrote... > Hi! > > When I boot the FreeBSD from the HD after a hardware reset, I have no > sound , and the printer takes ages to print ... (ie it prints a line, > then pauses for two-three seconds, and continues...) > But when I am booting the FreeBSD from MS-DOS, (and running the soundcard > init program) via FBSDBOOT.EXE , I have sound , and the printer works > ok......... > > Note : my soundcard is SB PRO compatible, (with MAD16 OPTI chip). > The m/board is a SOYO 5TC5 (P133) 8MB 256K P/line burst cache. > I have not any conflict with the devices (I've checked them with the > 'boot -c' ) > (FreeBsd v.2.1) > > Any ideas ? Well, it really does sound like an interrupt problem... The fact that you don't get sound on a FreeBSD boot, suggests that the interrupt your card wants is not the one FreeBSD is giving it. The slow printing suggests that the soundcard is competing with the parallel port. I would think that the soundcard init program is soft-configuring the interrupt. So, can you set the soundcard interrupt by jumper? Is there a config program that lets you allocate an interrupt manually? John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 08:50:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08568 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08543 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA23763; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:19:46 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:19:46 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199607071549.BAA23763@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: stefan@islandia.is, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyclades 16Ye and PPP X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you wrote: : Hello. : I'm having a problem with using Cyclades multicomm board with ppp, the : thing is that when I dial in on it with ppp it connects the ppp proccess : ok but when I hang up the ppp proccess keeps running. This does not : happen with a modem connected to ttyd0, then the proccess terminates and : everything is normal. So after eliminating the cables, modems, the ppp : itself I come down to the fact that this has something to do with the : Cyclades unit. I am running is 2.1 Release. Oh and connecting with slip on : the card works just fine. We have them working just fine here... I guess you'd need to check that the modems are set to reset on DTR drop, and a few things like that. I'd suggest running mgetty over getty any day for these sort of dialup lines. Peter -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds The internet is full, please try again in half an hour... From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 08:59:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA09730 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09687 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA21409 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:58:36 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0ucwEE-00021TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:58 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA088435030; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:57:10 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199607071557.AA088435030@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Netscape & FreeBSD To: flaq@synwork.com (Mike K.) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:57:10 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mike K." at Jul 7, 96 10:32:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Mike K. wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Hr.Ladavac wrote: > > > In his e-mail Mike K. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Do you need to be running X in order to use Netscape with FreeBSD ? > > > > > > > > > > > The answer is YES > > > > The answer is WRONG :) > > > > /Marino > > > > P.S. They don't even have to have Xlibs installed as Netscape is > > statically linked. As to the X server, it need not run on FreeBSD. :) > > > > > > You mean to tell me that Netscape will work from a command prompt without > running an Xserver? I haven't seen this done. Of course it will work. That is the whole idea behind X11 being a distributed windowing system. Namely, *all* X11 applications take the display address from the environment variable named DISPLAY. Also, all Xt applications honor the -display command line switch. NB, your DISPLAY variable has to point to some working X11 server, but that server can be on another planet, as far as X11 is concerned, as long as some supported transport protocol and channel exists between the two machines. One of these transports is TCP/IP. As a matter of fact, a rather typical situation at bigger companies (e.g. here, at Siemens) is that they have a couple of big multi CPU unix servers and a whole bunch of X-terminals (an x-terminal is basically a diskless machine running an X server). One indeed logs into the unix machine, gets a prompt there, and starts any X11 app which then displays on his X-terminal (completely different machine.) Naturally, if one forgets to set the DISPLAY variable, one receives an error message from the Xlib telling that the Xlib cannot connect to display. Now, if you have a personal workstation you will normally run the X server locally, but you do not have to :) /Marino P.S. Okay, I admit I was picking a nit. One indeed needs to run the X server *somewhere* for netscape to work. But the point is that they do not need to go to the hassle of installing all of X libs and servers to their machine: they can use any of Xservers for Windows, for instance. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 09:16:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11999 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11974 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-4.ime.net [206.231.148.133]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19701; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DFE323.5F9@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 12:17:39 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help References: <199607071239.OAA16401@allegro.lemis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey wrote: > > > Those are some good arguments. I suppose this is a classical case of > YMMV: I just tried it out (on a BSD/OS box, thus the different device > name. On FreeBSD I just have ISDN connections). > I'm not familliar with ISDN, They don't have dialtones? > $ cu -s 38400 -l /dev/tty01 > Connected. > at > OK > atm3 > OK > atl3 > OK > atdt > NO CARRIER > ate0 > OK > > OK > > OK > at > OK > > And yes, I got a click from the speaker. But I didn't get a dial > tone, for some reason, just a disconnect tone after a while. The > trouble with this method is that it requires you to have a dial tone. > On the other hand, I'm prepared to accept that not all modems will > still generate an OK when ate0 is set, so you'll probably have to try > a number of these methods. But you can be pretty sure that nothing is > getting to the modem in the first place if you have -clocal set. > > Greg Ok, You probably didn't get a dialtone because of the ATM3. M3 Normally turns the speaker off during handshaking and dialing. Try it with M1 and L3 (ATM1L3) M1 = Speaker controll. (Normal hayes) L3 = Volume controll. (Normal hayes) Yes, You are right, This method does work better if you have a phone line with dialtone attached. :) But not needed! I just tried it on 7 different brands of modems, All of them returned OK from AT with ATE0 set. So for these seven brands/models. AT should prove success or failure. Yea, I agree, Try several different tests.. :) Can't hurt. 99.999% of my experiance is Dos based. So I have no idea what -clocal does. You can bet I'm looking though.. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 09:23:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA14641 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14620 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-4.ime.net [206.231.148.133]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19967 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DFE4DD.2E5@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 12:25:01 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: usr/src/Makefile question. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I did a make world, It rebuilt the games that were NOT installed in the first place! I hate games. (Of those brain waster type) Anyways I am reading through the makefile to see about stripping the games make. I see: .if exists(games) SUBDIR+= games .endif Does this mean that if I remove the src/games dir (Rename it) that the Makefile will NOT attemp to build the games? I'd sure hate to get hours into a make world and have my removal of the src/games dir kill it. Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 09:27:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15176 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15170 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ucwfg-000QekC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 18:26 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA16843; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:22:10 +0200 Message-Id: <199607071622.SAA16843@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:22:10 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <31DFE323.5F9@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 7, 96 12:17:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler writes: > > (lots of good stuff omitted) > > Yea, I agree, Try several different tests.. :) > Can't hurt. > > 99.999% of my experiance is Dos based. So I have no idea what > -clocal does. You can bet I'm looking though.. :) Sorry, I keep forgetting that I should explain these things. To quote the termios(4) man page, If CLOCAL is set, a connection does not depend on the state of the modem status lines. If CLOCAL is clear, the modem status lines are monitored. Under normal circumstances, a call to the open() function waits for the modem connection to complete. However, if the O_NONBLOCK flag is set or if CLOCAL has been set, the open() function returns immediately without waiting for the connection. In stty, on is shown as clocal, and off is shown as -clocal. The modem control line to which it refers is DCD (Data Carrier Detect), which only comes on when you have established a connection. In the olden days, before modems had autodial capability, this was appropriate, but now it's a pain. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 09:29:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15680 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mis.ashrae.org (mis.ashrae.org [204.7.184.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15662 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by mis.ashrae.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA15016 for Questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:31:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:31:19 -0400 From: Bill Harrison Message-Id: <199607071631.MAA15016@mis.ashrae.org> To: Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Router Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone had success at using FreeBSD as a router PPP to tcp/ip over ne200 car 10 baset ethernet LAN. I can get either function to work by itself. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 09:30:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16179 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16162 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-4.ime.net [206.231.148.133]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA20218; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DFE674.779D@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 12:31:48 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help References: <199607071622.SAA16843@allegro.lemis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey wrote: > > Gary Chrysler writes: > > > > (lots of good stuff omitted) > > > > Yea, I agree, Try several different tests.. :) > > Can't hurt. > > > > 99.999% of my experiance is Dos based. So I have no idea what > > -clocal does. You can bet I'm looking though.. :) > > Sorry, I keep forgetting that I should explain these things. To quote > the termios(4) man page, > > If CLOCAL is set, a connection does not depend on the state of the modem > status lines. If CLOCAL is clear, the modem status lines are monitored. > > Under normal circumstances, a call to the open() function waits for the > modem connection to complete. However, if the O_NONBLOCK flag is set or > if CLOCAL has been set, the open() function returns immediately without > waiting for the connection. > > In stty, on is shown as clocal, and off is shown as -clocal. The > modem control line to which it refers is DCD (Data Carrier Detect), > which only comes on when you have established a connection. In the > olden days, before modems had autodial capability, this was > appropriate, but now it's a pain. > > Greg Thank you for the explanation, I understand. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 09:58:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA20613 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20608 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 09:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07379; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 16:58:37 GMT Message-Id: <199607071658.QAA07379@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA014918718; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:58:39 -0600 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:58:39 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: fadorn19@idt.liberty.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31DF636C.41C67EA6@idt.liberty.com> (message from Fred Adorno on Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:12:44 -0700) Subject: Re: Printing under Netscape Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Fred" == Fred Adorno writes: Fred> Now that I got netscape working under X-Windows why can't I Fred> print a file that is legible. You need a PostScript printer, since Netscape produces PostScript when it prints. Alternatively, you could use Ghostscript to rasterize the PostScript produced by Netscape for your type of printer, if Ghostscript supports it. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 10:15:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23563 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23554 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06731 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" X-Sender: ejs@harlie To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Optical Jukebox support in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31DFE323.5F9@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How capable is FreeBSD of supporting 2 terrabytes worth of CD jukeboxes? I can't see buying several million in hard drives, but a CD jukebox may be affordable, and this information shouldn't be updated too often. O.K., I admit that even if it does work, the numbers will be so staggering that my boss will turn all sorts of colors, and the project will get killed or redesigned, but I at least want to have the numbers available. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 10:15:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23611 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23599 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA22736 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:15:13 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0ucxQP-00021RC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 19:15 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA089269627; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:13:47 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199607071713.AA089269627@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Netscape & FreeBSD To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:13:47 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607071649.SAA29482@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at Jul 7, 96 06:49:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > (e.g. here, at Siemens) is that they have a couple of big multi CPU > > unix servers and a whole bunch of X-terminals (an x-terminal is basically > > a diskless machine running an X server). One indeed logs into the unix > > machine, gets a prompt there, and starts any X11 app which then displays > > ahhh... the fun of having 50 copies of netscape, each consuming > 3..5MB of memory (or more) on the server.... :) Well, the 1gig machine which is the exclusive netscape/mosaic app server doesn't complain too much. It's still cheaper than having 50 workstations with a copy of netscape each :) NB, Siemens gets *very* good prices on RAM. They, sort of, produce it :) /Marino > > Luigi > ==================================================================== > Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione > email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa > tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > ==================================================================== > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 10:21:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24026 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24018 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06741; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:21:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" X-Sender: ejs@harlie To: Bill Harrison cc: Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Router In-Reply-To: <199607071631.MAA15016@mis.ashrae.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Bill Harrison wrote: > Has anyone had success at using FreeBSD as a router PPP to tcp/ip over ne200 car > 10 baset ethernet LAN. > > I can get either function to work by itself. I've got what I think you're asking for working. We have an ethernet segment, and have a dialup PPP link for Win95 machines to access the other machines on the ethernet (and beyond, there's also a router to a T1). The only difference is that we're using an SMC ethernet card. Anyway, how have you got it configured so far concerning IP addresses, routing, ARP, etc? If you connect in with PPP, can you talk to that machine, or nothing. And can you still access other machines on the ethernet from the gateway machine. Oh, and have you turned on IP forwarding? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 10:40:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA27154 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from styx.aic.net (Styx.AIC.NET [194.67.30.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27120 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ran@localhost) by styx.aic.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA02884 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:40:04 +0400 (GMT-4) From: "Ran d'Adi" Message-Id: <199607071740.VAA02884@styx.aic.net> Subject: olwm To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:40:03 +0400 (GMT-4) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the following problem: olwm will not run normal. When I run X in 8bit/pixel mode, everything is OK, but when I start X as bpp 16 olwm will switch to monochrom mode. olwm -3d also not work. All other applications run fine. Video card is S3-Trio64 with 2 Mb RAM greh doesn't run in 1024x768x64k mode, but I cannot accept also such a kind of olwm. :( Thanks in advance. Hrant From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 10:46:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA28660 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [198.83.19.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28639 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mime4.prodigy.com (mime4.prodigy.com [192.168.254.43]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA28008 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:45:18 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime4.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id NAA27624 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:43:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199607071743.NAA27624@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: FKHT36A@prodigy.com (MR REGGIE H KNAPP) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:43:15, -0500 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Boot manager Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have Windows 95 installed and it is using nearly all of drive C. I have a new drive that is at present unknow to Windows. I intend to use this drive for FreeBSD and perhaps other OSes. I assume I need to get the Boot Manager on to the beginning of drive C, but intend to tell the FreeBSD install program to use only the second (drive D) disk. Will the boot manager be placed on drive C automatically? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 10:48:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29600 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29588; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:48:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607071748.KAA29588@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Floppy tape program QIC-80 To: root@babel.cais.com (Robert F. Abel) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, babel@cais.com In-Reply-To: from "Robert F. Abel" at Jul 5, 96 06:37:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert F. Abel wrote: > > Having problems with the floppy tape (ft) QIC80 backup utility. > > When backing up my FreeBSD System (700 MB), backup got to second tape > > then got error message "fatal write error" and it quit. Also the > > following Messages flashes on the screen at random and throughout the process. > > "July 5 17.50:42 babel /kernel: fdc0: output ready timeout" > "July 5 17.50:42 babel /kernel: fdc0: input ready timeout" > > Any way to get rid of these messages, could they be causing my > fatal write error ? > > I own rev 2.1 FreeBSD CDROM. Missing any patches on ft software ? > > Any new Colorado QIC80 type driver apps on the horrizon ? YES! please retrieve and test freefall.freebsd.org:/pub/incoming/lft.tar.gz this is a new floopy tape driver/filter program from Richard Samuel. (i dont have a floppy tape and need people to test this program ;) jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 11:45:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA06159 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 11:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06144 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 11:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-1.ime.net [206.231.148.130]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA25852; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 14:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E00605.12BC@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 14:46:29 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help References: <199607071239.OAA16401@allegro.lemis.de> <31DFE323.5F9@ime.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler wrote: > > Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > > > > Those are some good arguments. I suppose this is a classical case of > > YMMV: I just tried it out (on a BSD/OS box, thus the different device > > name. On FreeBSD I just have ISDN connections). > > > > I'm not familliar with ISDN, They don't have dialtones? > > > $ cu -s 38400 -l /dev/tty01 > > Connected. > > at > > OK > > atm3 > > OK > > atl3 > > OK > > atdt > > NO CARRIER > > ate0 > > OK > > > > OK > > > > OK > > at > > OK > > > > And yes, I got a click from the speaker. But I didn't get a dial > > tone, for some reason, just a disconnect tone after a while. The > > trouble with this method is that it requires you to have a dial tone. > > On the other hand, I'm prepared to accept that not all modems will > > still generate an OK when ate0 is set, so you'll probably have to try > > a number of these methods. But you can be pretty sure that nothing is > > getting to the modem in the first place if you have -clocal set. > > > > Greg > > Ok, You probably didn't get a dialtone because of the ATM3. > M3 Normally turns the speaker off during handshaking and dialing. > Try it with M1 and L3 (ATM1L3) > M1 = Speaker controll. (Normal hayes) > L3 = Volume controll. (Normal hayes) > > Yes, You are right, This method does work better if you have a > phone line with dialtone attached. :) But not needed! > > I just tried it on 7 different brands of modems, All of them > returned OK from AT with ATE0 set. So for these seven brands/models. > AT should prove success or failure. > > Yea, I agree, Try several different tests.. :) > Can't hurt. > > 99.999% of my experiance is Dos based. So I have no idea what > -clocal does. You can bet I'm looking though.. :) > Sorry for the Quote of my own message, But I needed to expand on it! This is why I use ATDT to test modems versus AT. Some term programs can echo or ignore result codes from the modem. So if your term prog is set to echo results, And your modem is set to echo results (ATE1) the you will get _double_ chars on your term. (Double echo) If your modem is ATE1 (echo results) and your term program is set to ignore results, Your term may never recieve the OK. Thus the results could be false, Even if true! To receive OK. Your term must be able to receive the result. term -> modem -> term Thus if modem -> term is broke. ... ... ATDT does not require a two way street. term -> (modem -> modem_speaker) IMHO using ATDT is a superior method for testing. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 12:18:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07815 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07810 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-1.ime.net [206.231.148.130]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA27297; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E00DC1.19E9@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 15:19:29 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" CC: "Robert F. Abel" , questions@FreeBSD.org, babel@cais.com Subject: Re: Floppy tape program QIC-80 References: <199607071748.KAA29588@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > YES! please retrieve and test > freefall.freebsd.org:/pub/incoming/lft.tar.gz > > this is a new floopy tape driver/filter program from > Richard Samuel. > > (i dont have a floppy tape and need people to test > this program ;) > I just went to grab this and it's freefall.freebsd.org:/pub/incoming/lft.tar.gz.uu NOTE the .uu ending.. :) Anyways, I have a dozen or so QIC-80 drives floating around here I will plug one into FreeBSD and test it out for ya. If your interested contact me in email, Maybe we can do something to get you a drive to test with.. :) While on the subject, Is there a QIC-02 driver for FreeBSD? I have several CMS QFA-700's in use and it would be a step further along in my trek to get rid of Netware! (Not really ready yet, So haven't looked) Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 13:27:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12739 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net (netview.net [199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12733 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [199.3.71.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00289 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:27:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:27:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960708152638.0094b20c@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: stop "ls -d" in nslookup Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Having looked at many different name servers (with nslookup), I see that some do not allow you to list their entire domain (ie. ls -d x.x.x.in-addr.arpa), although they seem to function properly, and give the scant information that a "set q=any" host query generates. My question is how do I do this too? I don't particularly want to leave my arpa table open for listing, but I do need arpa resolution. Does anyone know the "trick" to stop my name server from being such a whore? ;^) Thanks, John Clark [jc@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 13:48:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14044 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net (netview.net [199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14034 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [199.3.71.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00360 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:48:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:48:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960708154757.0095d294@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: sendmail wildcard alias Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I was wondering if there was a wildcard alias for sendmail. I would like the /etc/aliases.db to be scanned for name matches, and finding no match, default to one particular account. This is a breeze for virtual domains, but I am not sure of the appropriate method to use for the actual real host itself. I thought the following entry (last line) in the /etc/aliases file might work: *: sysadmin But no joy. :^( Thanks, John Clark [jc@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 14:27:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15654 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 14:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitty.oester.com (kitty.oester.com [206.25.136.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15647 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 14:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fatcat.oester.com by kitty.oester.com (8.6.12/1.37) id VAA00198; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:07:54 GMT Message-ID: <31E02AFC.223C@oester.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 14:24:12 -0700 From: "G.R.Gircys" Reply-To: rich@oester.com Organization: Oesterreich & Assc. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: install problems w/3c509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i am using the 2.1 release install floppy on a system with 2 pci cards (orchid graphics and buslogic 946 - use irq10) and a 3c509 isa ethernet card. whereas an install on another system went just fine (adaptec 1542 and 3c509; no pci cards), on this machine the kernel does not find the 3com card, so network install is dead. i have changed the 3com to use irq 12 - still not found - any ideas, hints, secrets, to make this work would be appreciated. rich From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 14:38:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16090 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 14:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zombie.ncsc.mil (zombie.ncsc.mil [144.51.15.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16084 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 14:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by zombie.ncsc.mil (8.6.11/8.6.11) id RAA04135 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:38:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:38:30 -0400 From: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Message-Id: <199607072138.RAA04135@zombie.ncsc.mil> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PS/2 mouse & X & 2.2-960612-SNAP Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've just installed 2.2-960612-SNAP, and can't get the system to recognize my PS/2 mouse (so that I can run X). I've tried searching the mailing list archives, but can't seem to find the answer to this problem.... What do I need to do to be able to use a PS/2 mouse? Thanks, -SR From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 15:30:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19379 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tippy2.vnet.net (tippy2.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19373 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cmadison@localhost) by tippy2.vnet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA01073; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:30:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Madison To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: "Robert F. Abel" , questions@FreeBSD.org, babel@cais.com Subject: Re: Floppy tape program QIC-80 In-Reply-To: <199607071748.KAA29588@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > YES! please retrieve and test > freefall.freebsd.org:/pub/incoming/lft.tar.gz Wow! So far it is working great with -current and a Colorado Jumbo 250. I'm happy and impressed! Haven't been able to succesfully backup xc with the ft driver for a while now, so if lft chokes on xc I'll let you know. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 15:34:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19472 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.3lefties.com (root@[206.101.24.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19467 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by server.3lefties.com (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.6) id ; Sun, 7 Jul 96 16:34 MDT Received: from noident@slip016.3lefties.com(206.101.25.16) by server via smap (V1.3bdt) id sma022572; Sun Jul 7 16:34:31 1996 Message-ID: <31E03ACC.7743@3lefties.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 16:31:40 -0600 From: Mitch X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where can I find the X Windows system? Thank you Mitch From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 17:02:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22798 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22792 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199607080002.RAA22792@freefall.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 7 May 1996. This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"**). In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. I'm taking the viewpoint of the newcomer here: we have other ways of handling arrogant hackers :-) When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, please remember: 1. Nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message, so please specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Can't get this to work" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, most people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Please try to format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. 4. Please don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 5. Please specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 6. If you don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. For example, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for this activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 18:08:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02463 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02387 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ac16107; 8 Jul 96 2:07 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa22560; 7 Jul 96 22:22 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA14451; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:05:47 GMT Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:05:47 GMT Message-Id: <199607072105.VAA14451@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <8791cwbun4.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> (message from Zach Heilig on 06 Jul 1996 22:38:07 -0500) Subject: Re: What's up with ownership? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > It seems to me that, even though it might be a bit more complex, files > should not be created with a gid that you do not belong to by default. A lot of BSD people would disagree with that statement :-) > That by itself isn't such a big deal, but some programs (like mv(1)) > try to preserve the file's gid, and fail. I agree that mv(1) should handle this more intelligently. > Maybe mv(1) should have that particular message silenced, since it > mostly superfluous anyway. cp(1) with the -p option doesn't print a > message if it can't preserve uid and gid in the destination, and the > man page for mv(1) says that it uses rm(1) and cp(1) to move files > across file-systems. To be pedantic, the man page only says it has the same effect as using rm(1) and cp(1). But yes, this behaviour is inconsistent IMHO and I've submitted a patch to take out the warning. > I just tested this, and mv(1) only complains > when it is moving files, not directories, wonder why? If you look at /usr/src/bin/mv/mv.c, you'll notice that it uses different algorithms for moving files and directories across devices. Finally, this message was brought to you by the left bracket, the right bracket and the number 1. :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 18:11:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03857 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.ai.net ([208.194.41.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03824 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id VAA17667; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:10:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:10:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Increasing FTP thruput. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On one of our development machines we are running wu-ftpd. When FTP'ing over a T-3 to a PPP (28.8kbaud) line from a PPro 200 to it we were seeing as low as 2.0k/second. Yet, FTP'ing from a Sun 4/75 we were seeing 2.8kbaud solid performance. It appears to be [by watching modem lights] that the BSD box isn't streaming in the sense of a continuous send or receive while receiving acks along the way. The Sun boxes [all of them] seem to do this out of the box. I verified this behavior on ftp.cdrom.com and random SunOS boxes. Any ideas how to make the BSD behavior more like the SunOS? Thanks, -Tomas From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 18:45:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA14768 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA14760 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0ud5LZ-0004rjC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 21:42 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20501; Sun, 7 Jul 96 21:41:59 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA16006; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:43:47 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199607080143.VAA16006@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: Printing under Netscape To: fadorn19@idt.liberty.com (Fred Adorno) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31DF636C.41C67EA6@idt.liberty.com> from "Fred Adorno" at Jul 7, 96 00:12:44 am Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Now that I got netscape working under X-Windows why can't I print a file >that is legible. Do I need to get a PS-Adobe reader or driver >installed? Yes. To my knowledge, postscript is all that's supported on the UNIX versions. If your printer supports PostScript, just create a print queue (/etc/printcap) to it and set the Netscape print command to: lpr -P If not, given that your printer is supported by GhostScript, you can pretty easily create a postscript print queue that kicks off ghostscript and translates the Postscript into the commands your printer will handle. For this, you'd still set your netscape print command to the same thing -- but your print queue would be set up differently. Here's what I use for printing on my HP Laserjet 4P (w/o PostScript SIMM :-): PRINT_COMMAND: lpr -Pps /etc/printcap entries: lp|LJ4P RAW:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :mx#0:ff=\033E:fo:sh:tr=\033E: text|LJ4P TEXT (UNIX->DOS EOL text conversion & PC-8 [not Roman-8] Fontset):\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/text:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :mx#0:ff=\033E\033&k2G\033(10U:fo:sh:tr=\033E: ps|LJ4P POSTSCRIPT (Ghostscript PS->PCL conversion):\ :lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ps:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :of=/opt/bin/gslj:\ :mx#0:sf:sh: /opt/bin/gslj script: #!/bin/sh TMPDIR=/usr/tmp PRINTER=lp GSLIB=/usr/local/lib/ghostscript/fonts PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH export TMPDIR PRINTER GSLIB PATH exec gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=\|lpr gslp.ps - Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 18:48:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15394 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15345 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA00690; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 18:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607080147.SAA00690@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Network Coordinator cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jul 1996 21:10:53 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 18:47:26 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On one of our development machines we are running wu-ftpd. When FTP'ing >over a T-3 to a PPP (28.8kbaud) line from a PPro 200 to it we were seeing >as low as 2.0k/second. Yet, FTP'ing from a Sun 4/75 we were seeing >2.8kbaud solid performance. > >It appears to be [by watching modem lights] that the BSD box isn't >streaming in the sense of a continuous send or receive while receiving >acks along the way. The Sun boxes [all of them] seem to do this out of >the box. > >I verified this behavior on ftp.cdrom.com and random SunOS boxes. > >Any ideas how to make the BSD behavior more like the SunOS? Watching modem lights is an extremely poor way to do critical analysis. The SunOS machines send out ACKs every other packet and further restrict the window size to 4096 bytes. I'm really suprised that FreeBSD comes out worse in your test. If you're doing the tests using ftp.cdrom.com as the endpoint then you might be seeing the effects of asymetric lossage - especially since there are so many intermediate hops involved. I suggest looking for dropped packets in the netstat -s statistics. Oh, and you didn't mention which version of FreeBSD you're using or whether you're using the kernel PPP or usermode ijppp. You could be seeing the effects of one or more bugs in the PPP code. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 19:16:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25401 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athenet.net (root@minerva.athenet.net [205.242.245.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25366 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pmmatt.athenet.net (pm-at-3-13.athenet.net [204.120.6.143]) by athenet.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id VAA14195 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:16:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960708021622.0069f168@athenet.net> X-Sender: mmatt@athenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 21:16:22 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Lord Karr Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk SUBSCRIBE From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 19:40:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03225 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.hidesert.com (bbs9.hidesert.com [206.85.216.218]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03188 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by www.hidesert.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00170; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:39:42 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:39:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199607071939.MAA00170@www.hidesert.com> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 From: mtoole@hidesert.com Subject: Question about Executables Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I go into the /usr/games directory where the games I got when I Installed the OS FreeBSD, it tells me "Command Not Found". Do you have any idea why its doing this? I do have the files, i made sure of it and It is an executable file as far as I know becuase when I do ls -F, it puts a star next to each executable file. I have also tried to cd to them but its not a directory so it won't let me. If you can, even if you can't, help me with this, please let me know at mtoole@hidesert.com. Thanks for the help. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 19:44:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04783 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04733 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mrcpu@localhost) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA27006; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:43:40 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:43:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen To: David Greenman cc: Network Coordinator , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-Reply-To: <199607080147.SAA00690@root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk All this might be true, but the article I sent a reference out about recently pointed out several shortcomings in TCP re slow speed links, and that tweaks that helped the high end were having a negative effect on the low end. Sun specifically rewrote the drivers and tweaked some constants to help with this specific issue, so it doesn't surprise me at all. My users see similar behaviour. They can FTP files faster from an unloaded NT box than they can from an unloaded FreeBSD box. yet both can drive the thernet at wire speeds. (They're coming in over a 28.8 PPP connections to Livingston PM's and Digiboards) In both cases the configs are almost identical, P120's, 3com ethernet, 2GB Seagate disks, NT3.51 on a Buslogic, and FreeBSd on and adaptec. This is reproducible at will. So now after I went to all the hassle to switch from BSD/OS to FreeBSD, I find I probably would be able to keep more users happier by changing things to NT. This is depressing. I have the original article still, if anybody is interested. On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, David Greenman wrote: > >On one of our development machines we are running wu-ftpd. When FTP'ing > >over a T-3 to a PPP (28.8kbaud) line from a PPro 200 to it we were seeing > >as low as 2.0k/second. Yet, FTP'ing from a Sun 4/75 we were seeing > >2.8kbaud solid performance. > > > >It appears to be [by watching modem lights] that the BSD box isn't > >streaming in the sense of a continuous send or receive while receiving > >acks along the way. The Sun boxes [all of them] seem to do this out of > >the box. > > > >I verified this behavior on ftp.cdrom.com and random SunOS boxes. > > > >Any ideas how to make the BSD behavior more like the SunOS? > > Watching modem lights is an extremely poor way to do critical analysis. The > SunOS machines send out ACKs every other packet and further restrict the > window size to 4096 bytes. I'm really suprised that FreeBSD comes out worse > in your test. If you're doing the tests using ftp.cdrom.com as the endpoint > then you might be seeing the effects of asymetric lossage - especially since > there are so many intermediate hops involved. I suggest looking for dropped > packets in the netstat -s statistics. > Oh, and you didn't mention which version of FreeBSD you're using or whether > you're using the kernel PPP or usermode ijppp. You could be seeing the effects > of one or more bugs in the PPP code. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 20:27:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00967 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00962 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA28599; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:26:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:26:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: MR REGGIE H KNAPP cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Boot manager In-Reply-To: <199607071743.NAA27624@mime4.prodigy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, MR REGGIE H KNAPP wrote: > I have Windows 95 installed and it is using nearly all of drive C. I > have a new drive that is at present unknow to Windows. I intend to > use this drive for FreeBSD and perhaps other OSes. I assume I need > to get the Boot Manager on to the beginning of drive C, but intend to > tell the FreeBSD install program to use only the second (drive D) > disk. Will the boot manager be placed on drive C automatically? No, it will not. I believe the proper procedure is to install it anyway, then install booteasy manually onto the first disk from the CD-ROM. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 20:40:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA01598 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01593 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA09508; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:40:52 GMT Message-Id: <199607080340.DAA09508@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA013707251; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:40:51 -0600 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:40:51 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: mtoole@hidesert.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607071939.MAA00170@www.hidesert.com> (mtoole@hidesert.com) Subject: Re: Question about Executables Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Mike" == mtoole writes: Mike> When I go into the /usr/games directory where the games I Mike> got when I Installed the OS FreeBSD, it tells me "Command Mike> Not Found". You probably don't have `.' in your PATH. Put `.' in your PATH and then you'll be able to run games while in the /usr/games directory. Even better, put `/usr/games' in your PATH. Then, you can run them from any directory. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 20:53:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02153 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02146 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA28716; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:49:51 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Anil John cc: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Re: Dial up (dynamic IP) Web Server - Possible? In-Reply-To: <01BB6B86.ED39D2C0@ppp143.bcpl.lib.md.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Anil John wrote: > I guess what I am asking is is there a way to map a domain to a dynamic IP > address? There are standards out or in the works for Dynamic DNS, however only a few implementations exist, most likely commericial and unstable. You would be better approaching your provider and having them assign you a static IP. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 21:23:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03365 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp (nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.85.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03358 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp (kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.109.10]) by nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.4W/3.3W9/SUT.NODA-950227) with SMTP id NAA16039 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:22:43 +0900 Received: by kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp (4.2/6.4J.6-04.12) id AA09159; Mon, 8 Jul 96 13:22:41 JST Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 13:22:41 JST From: Tatsurou MIZUNUMA Message-Id: <9607080422.AA09159@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp> To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Mr. My name is Tatsuro Mizunuma, a usr of Free BSD. Is there device driver for < 3Com 3C590-COMBO > Network Card ? I'm pleased with your answer of my Question. Good by _______________________________________________________________ Science University of Tokyo , Japan Tatsuro Mizunuma e-mail : kitao@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp ________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 21:30:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA04048 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lespoir.apana.org.au (lespoir.apana.org.au [202.12.87.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA04002 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wongm@localhost) by lespoir.apana.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA05702; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:28:53 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:28:53 +0000 () From: "M.C Wong" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: [2.1R] ^C in telnet session kills the connection, why ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm having a problem when telnet from a HP-UX box into a FreeBSD 2.1R machine, typing ^C actually kills the telnet connection. Is there anything on telnet that one can set to prevent this from hapenning ? Telnet from the same host to a Sun box doesn't have this problem. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 21:36:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA04579 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA04555 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00246; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:36:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "G.R.Gircys" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install problems w/3c509 In-Reply-To: <31E02AFC.223C@oester.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, G.R.Gircys wrote: > i am using the 2.1 release install floppy on a system with 2 pci cards > (orchid graphics and buslogic 946 - use irq10) and a 3c509 isa ethernet > card. > > whereas an install on another system went just fine (adaptec 1542 and > 3c509; no pci cards), on this machine the kernel does not find the > 3com card, so network install is dead. Eh? The 3c509 is supported in the ep0 driver. What is the boot probe from that device? Any errors? Make sure you boot -c and change the settings for ed0. Then disable all other network cards. Oh, and turn off Plug and Play in the card's setup (3c5x9cfg.exe). That'll solve the 'erase pencil mark!' error message. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 21:37:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA04720 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA04713 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00253; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:37:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:37:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Damir Cifer cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Damir Cifer wrote: > What I wonder is if it will be possible to install FreeBSD into a part of > the extended partition (logical partition) in the 2.2.0 release? Is it > perhaps already possible in the current snaps? No, FreeBSD requires it's own slice. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 21:41:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05096 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05087 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00263; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:41:57 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Douglas Corner cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mach32 and 16 bit color In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Mark Douglas Corner wrote: > I am having trouble getting 16 bit depth with my Mach32 2meg Vram card. > I have a CTX 1785Gme monitor. > > If I commment out the lines for 8 bit color, X will not start and says > "unsupported color depth" I know my card does 16 bit color under > Winblowz so why won't X do it? Here is my XF86Config. Thanks for any > help you can give Because the X server runs in 8bpp mode by default. To make it run in 16 bit mode, uncomment the 8bpp lines and put -bpp 16 on the command line to the X server. startx .... -- -bpp 16 if you're using startx (note the -- as the delimiter for sending switches directly to the server) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 21:43:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05199 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from comoro.yorku.ca (comoro.yorku.ca [130.63.236.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05186 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Dan.yorku.ca (shemp10.slip.yorku.ca [130.63.122.59]) by comoro.yorku.ca (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA26365 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:43:42 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960708044316.006854fc@postoffice.yorku.ca> X-Sender: yu120560@postoffice.yorku.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 00:43:16 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Dan Ziegler Subject: Help! Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install FreeBSD...everything was going smoothly 'til it began to actually copy over the files. Here's my error, perhaps you can translate it into something resembling english for me :) "Failed to load ROOT dist" (which seems relatively straightforward) Command line output: "gunzip: stdin: invalid compressed data -- format violated /stand /cpio: premature end of file DEBUG: Dummy [default] close called for wd0s1 with fd of 6" I tried re-downloading the root.flp image, but got the same error. I'm installing from a DOS partition, and my dos dirs are set up the way the install doc says. What do I need to do/replace?? --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Ziegler EMail: yu120560@yorku.ca Web: http://www.finearts.yorku.ca/dziegler/3rdmnsn.htm --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 21:52:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05515 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05509 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA09565 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:57:46 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199607072157.VAA09565@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: search engine To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:57:45 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greeting, Is there a public domain search engine for FreeBSD ? Thanks. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 22:10:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA06161 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA06153 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ae18473; 8 Jul 96 6:07 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26064; 6 Jul 96 22:27 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01980; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:28:00 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:28:00 GMT Message-Id: <199607061828.SAA01980@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: lenzi@cwbone.bsi.com.br CC: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, tinman@cco.net, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (lenzi@cwbone.bsi.com.br) Subject: Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Unfortunately, yes. Engineering classes here require matlab, which > > unfortunately is a dos beast. I'd LOVE to be able to run it (or Mathcad, > > even better) under FreeBSD. Ah yes, Matlab, I remember it well. Is there a Linux version (and if so, does it run in our emulator)? Or am I getting mixed up with Mathematica? > I have the same problem HERE, people wanting to use math... I ask a > polish math professor, and he presented me to GP PARI. > I see the program working, it's Free and Fantastic, plot graphics, > multiple precision math, unlimited user space, and very, very FAST. Any chance of the source being made publically available (preferably under a Berkeley-style copyright?) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 22:54:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA09590 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iberia.it.earthlink.net (iberia-c.it.earthlink.net [206.85.92.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA09585 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from derekl.earthlink.net (max2-sc-ca-19.earthlink.net [206.85.117.119]) by iberia.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA22575 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31E0A205.51CF@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 22:52:05 -0700 From: Derek Law X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: i have a question X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a question about freebsd. I am interested in using it on my computer (Pentium 75, 24 MB RAM, 850 MB HDD). Here is my question: Can I use freebsd and keep and continue to use my current MS-DOS/WIN 3.1/WIN95 operating systems on it? Do I have to reformat my HDD and make additional partitions on it? Can I run all of my current DOS/WINDOWS programs if I get it? Is there any way to uninstall it if I don't like it? Thank you very much for helping me. Derek From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 22:56:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA09688 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nico.aarnet.edu.au (nico.aarnet.edu.au [139.130.204.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA09681 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pizza.telstra.net (pizza.telstra.net [139.130.204.45]) by nico.aarnet.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA00257 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:53:57 +1000 Message-ID: <31E0A2F7.41C67EA6@telstra.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 15:56:07 +1000 From: Wayne Farmer Organization: Telstra Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: BIND 4.9.4 Final Release Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will the 4.9.4 final release of BIND appear in 2.1.5 ? Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 23:14:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10547 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10542 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA11232; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:13:54 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:13:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607080613.AAA11232@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Marcus John Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC-Card + 3COM389 not recognized In-Reply-To: <31DF9327.2F4@wiesbaden.netsurf.de> References: <31DF9327.2F4@wiesbaden.netsurf.de> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I´m using FreeBSD 2.1 on several platforms includung a quite modern > notebook. This notebook has a CIRRUS-PC-Card Chipset connected to > it´s PCI-bus. After several unsuccessful tries I´ve been not able to > get a 3COM589 working with the zp-driver. > > Is this with this configuration possible at all? The newer 3C589 card is the 'C' model which wasn't released with 2.1R was cut, and is *slightly* different from the older models, so the driver doesn't work with it. If you get the if_zp.c driver from -stable (and the 2.1.5R soon to be released) it will work with all 3C589 models. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 23:15:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10652 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10647 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA11246; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:15:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:15:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607080615.AAA11246@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: tcg@ime.net Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: usr/src/Makefile question. In-Reply-To: <31DFE4DD.2E5@ime.net> References: <31DFE4DD.2E5@ime.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Anyways I am reading through the makefile to see about stripping > the games make. I see: > .if exists(games) > SUBDIR+= games > .endif > > Does this mean that if I remove the src/games dir (Rename it) > that the Makefile will NOT attemp to build the games? Yep. I've had games gone from my system since the 1.X days. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 23:20:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10911 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10901 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA11248; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:19:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:19:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607080619.AAA11248@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse & X & 2.2-960612-SNAP In-Reply-To: <199607072138.RAA04135@zombie.ncsc.mil> References: <199607072138.RAA04135@zombie.ncsc.mil> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've just installed 2.2-960612-SNAP, and can't get the system to > recognize my PS/2 mouse (so that I can run X). > > I've tried searching the mailing list archives, but can't seem to > find the answer to this problem.... > > What do I need to do to be able to use a PS/2 mouse? Look at the 'GENERIC' file and you'll see a line like the following: device psm0 at isa? disable port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr This is the driver for the PS/2 mouse. You must 'enable' it at boot time by using the '-c' (configure) option at the boot prompt. Once you get to the configure menu, 'enable' the psm0 driver by typing: > enable psm0 > quit And it will attempt to find your PS/2 mouse. Tell us what happens. ;) Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 23:21:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10969 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10958 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-3.ime.net [206.231.148.132]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA01257; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E0A923.2E2D@ime.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 02:22:27 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: usr/src/Makefile question. References: <31DFE4DD.2E5@ime.net> <199607080615.AAA11246@rocky.mt.sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote: > > > Anyways I am reading through the makefile to see about stripping > > the games make. I see: > > .if exists(games) > > SUBDIR+= games > > .endif > > > > Does this mean that if I remove the src/games dir (Rename it) > > that the Makefile will NOT attemp to build the games? > > Yep. I've had games gone from my system since the 1.X days. Alright, Thats what I wanted to hear.. :) Thanks for the reply. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 23:31:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA11394 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA11388 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA11295; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:31:33 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:31:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607080631.AAA11295@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Wayne Farmer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.4 Final Release In-Reply-To: <31E0A2F7.41C67EA6@telstra.net> References: <31E0A2F7.41C67EA6@telstra.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Will the 4.9.4 final release of BIND appear in 2.1.5 ? No. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 23:36:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA11616 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA11611 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00343; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:36:18 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Malvin C." cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mailbox In-Reply-To: <31DD42CD.7215@webscape.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Malvin C. wrote: > I like to inquire if it is possible to setup a single login account > while at the same time having multiple mailboxes each having their own > passwd. I don't know of any way to do this under the current mail system. You can have multiple email addresses for one account (through aliases) but they are not separately password protected, they end up all in the same mailbox. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 23:52:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA12294 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12289 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00360; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:52:02 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:52:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Raymundo Vega Aguilar cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More than two ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <9607051927.AA08561@knuth.cicese.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Raymundo Vega Aguilar wrote: > I want to use a 3 ethernet cards in the same freebsd box, but the only ones > i have are novell and western digital, both use the same device (ed's) and the > actual kernel only supports two of them. Is there an easy way out or > i have to modify and recompile the kernel?? Yes, you will have to rebuild the kernel. No, it's not hard, full instructions are in the Handbook. :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jul 7 23:55:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA12358 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12353 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00370; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:55:57 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:55:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: MichaelGoe@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help with PAS 16 In-Reply-To: <960705082611_149338277@emout07.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996 MichaelGoe@aol.com wrote: > I cannot get FreeBSD 2.1 to recognize my sound card. > > I have these in the config.sys > controller snd0 > device pas0 at isa? port 0x388 irq 10 confilicts drq 6 vector pasintr > device sb0 at isa? prot 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vectro sbintr > devise opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts > options EXCLUDE_SBPRO > options "SBC_IRQ=5" > > I added the conflicts foor the pas0 becuase I have a Mitsumi CD-rom on IRQ > 10. As a mounted drive the cd-rom works fine. During boot-up, it does > recognize my sound card, however; using cdplayer it tells me that the device > is not configured, and with xcd it I get a broken pipe error. 'confilicts' is misspelled, it should be 'conflicts'. I have a feeling you typed that or else config would have never run :-) You don't need to conflict sb0, it looks clear from here. And really, you don't need to conflict stuff unless it is having a real problem on boot. What that does (I THINK) is that if the first device probes then the second device is skipped. Try taking them off and see what you get. With the cdplayer stuff, those are set up to deal with SCSI CDROMs, and the ioctl's on the other drive types are not compatible. I guess "xcdplayer" works ok, I don't know if that is different from cdplayer. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 00:01:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12656 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12651 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00383; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:01:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:01:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Alain Thivillon cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Network] PPPD ou User PPP ? In-Reply-To: <199607060845.KAA15283@burzet.alma.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Alain Thivillon wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to configure my FreeBSD server (HP LC 64/2Go, FreeBSD 2.1) > to serve as a PPP server for my remote users. I want the following > behaviour : > - no login shell started, direct CHAP authentification make an account with username 'ppp' no password, have it start up the pppd session as a script or directly from /etc/ttys. Then set up the pppd for chap. > - remote IP address choosed by remote adressing for some users, and > server adressing for others one (to allow someday packet filtering : > some users should be able to access local machines/services, others > no) huh? Using usermode ppp you can have it argue with the server to try to obtain specific IPs. If you want to do specific addressing I think that is possible, don't know though. > What is the best choice for this : kernel PPPD ou user mode PPP ? My intuition would say kernel mode for the higher performance since you don't need the user flexibility in usermode ppp in a noninteractive login. > Can i start ppp directly from /etc/ttys (whithout getty) ? I have no > luck whith this, because i always have a login prompt , even if i add > lo=/usr/sbin/ppp -direct [someusers] in /etc/gettytab. Dunno. > I have read the handbook, FAQ and others documents, but there is no > relay good advice on "server side" PPP. Go look again. I'm pretty sure there is a whole section devoted to all aspects of ppp, client and server. > Futhermore, when my 2 standard serial ports will be used, what is the > best choice for adding 4 or 8 input (Digiboard ?) Again, dunno. There is a cheaper type that is I think cyclades compatible. A fellow guru has two of these boards and they are dirt cheap but work well with FreeBSD. I wish I had details. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 00:07:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12845 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12840 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00393; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:06:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Ran d'Adi" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: olwm In-Reply-To: <199607071740.VAA02884@styx.aic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Ran d'Adi wrote: > I have the following problem: > olwm will not run normal. > When I run X in 8bit/pixel mode, everything is OK, > but when I start X as bpp 16 olwm will switch to monochrom mode. olwm doesn't support 16 bit mode then. There are several apps that don't like 16 bit mode (vic, for instance); it's not uncommon. > Video card is S3-Trio64 with 2 Mb RAM > greh doesn't run in 1024x768x64k mode, but I cannot accept also such a > kind of olwm. :( Olwm is ported/contributed binary, and is meant for backward compatibility. If you are looking for more robustness try fvwm or ctwm(?). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 00:07:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12872 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12865 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00402; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:07:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:07:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Randy DuCharme cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: P24T Overdrive CPU In-Reply-To: <31DC25F1.56C2@nconnect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Randy DuCharme wrote: > Has anyone had any experience using the P24T (83MHz ) Pentium > overdrive CPU with FBSD? Will it work? If so, how would one configure > a kernel? (i486 or i586) Boot up and watch the first few lines out. It'll identify your cpu type: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #2: Fri Jun 7 20:10:34 PDT 1996 dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/GDI CPU: 90-MHz Pentium 735\\90 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x524 Stepping=4 Features=0x1bf I have a P90. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 00:09:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13024 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA13019 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00412; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:10:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Marcus John cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC-Card + 3COM389 not recognized In-Reply-To: <31DF9327.2F4@wiesbaden.netsurf.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Marcus John wrote: > I4m using FreeBSD 2.1 on several platforms includung a quite modern notebook. > This notebook has a CIRRUS-PC-Card Chipset connected to it4s PCI-bus. > After several unsuccessful tries I4ve been not able to get a 3COM589 working with > the zp-driver. > > Is this with this configuration possible at all? What may be happening is if you are running DOS on the same machine, the IRQ/DMA settings on the card are being rewritten by Card Services. Use the setup utility to fix the irq, base port and dma to specific values (I use irq 10, port 300) and configure FreeBSD for those. Just as long as you reconfig the card after using it in DOS you should be OK. > zp0 not found at 0x110 I really don't think your card is here. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 00:25:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13576 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13571 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-3.ime.net [206.231.148.132]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA02485 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E0B80F.1059@ime.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 03:26:07 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Logging boot scripts. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it possiable to log the output of the bootup scripts. If so how? Preferably controllable. ie: on and off.. Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 00:57:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA14874 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-1.mail.demon.net (relay-1.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.140]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA14864 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-1.mail.demon.net id ab05448; 8 Jul 96 8:57 +0100 Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa05243; 7 Jul 96 18:16 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports suggestion References: <199607070624.XAA01726@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 14:16:25 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org wrote: >> "man xxxxx" is a standard Unix-ism for finding out how to use >> something; Unix programs generally assume that the user knows how to >> use Unix :-) > Is it not in the best intrest of FreeBSD to encurage New users? We all > had/have to start someplace! > A simple 1 line: `See man xxxx(x) for documentation`, would point the > new user in the right direction. xxxx(x) is not always easy to determine > with some packages. pkg_info -f does it - it gives you the packing list, which should include any man pages provided. 0 out of 10 for 'easy for new users', though. -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 01:01:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA15046 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com ([134.129.252.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15037 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA03178; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:00:15 -0500 To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: David Greenman , Network Coordinator , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. References: From: Zach Heilig Date: 08 Jul 1996 03:00:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: Jaye Mathisen's message of Sun, 7 Jul 1996 19:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87hgrjdvjl.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jaye Mathisen writes: > This is reproducible at will. > So now after I went to all the hassle to switch from BSD/OS to FreeBSD, I > find I probably would be able to keep more users happier by changing > things to NT. This is depressing. > I have the original article still, if anybody is interested. Assuming you are using the user mode ppp driver... I noticed the same thing when I upgraded from the iijppp that came with 2.1.0-RELEASE to the -stable version (the -RELEASE version had a habit of hanging up during long transfers, the -stable one doesn't seem to). Ftp rates dropped from a solid 1.4K-1.5K/sec (14.4K modem) to about .57K/sec (from the machine directly on the other side of the link, i.e. remote -> phone -> local). My rates are back up to 1.5K/sec mostly (1.3K/sec if I'm doing interactive stuff over the link, which is actually usable while ftp'ing now), after making a slight tweak to the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file. I added the following lines, I don't know which one is responsible: set debug none disable pred1 deny pred1 disable lqr deny lqr -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited >commercial< email is subject to a $100 proof-reading fee. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 01:03:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA15159 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-1.mail.demon.net (relay-1.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.140]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15152 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-1.mail.demon.net id af06414; 8 Jul 96 9:03 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa10044; 7 Jul 96 15:47 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA01396; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:15:07 GMT Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:15:07 GMT Message-Id: <199607071015.KAA01396@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: tcg@ime.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31DF5123.97B@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Sun, 07 Jul 1996 01:54:43 -0400) Subject: Re: Ports suggestion Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > "man xxxxx" is a standard Unix-ism for finding out how to use > > something; Unix programs generally assume that the user knows how to > > use Unix :-) > > > > Is it not in the best intrest of FreeBSD to encurage New users? > We all had/have to start someplace! Very true, although hopefully you'll soon get a little further along the road :-) > A simple 1 line: `See man xxxx(x) for documentation`, would point > the new user in the right direction. > xxxx(x) is not always easy to determine with some packages. Some programs don't have a simple xxxx(x), unfortunately. I like the way INN sets out its man pages, so you can start with innd(8) and then move around as the fancy takes you, but not everyone thinks out their man pages as carefully as this. Not to mention GNU, with their "man pages are obsolete" attitude. > New users (at least I do) spend more time trying to find > documentation then reading installing and configuring the package. > Not a way to encurage people! Depends - when I as in that position, I often found myself stumbling across interesting things in my searches (until I found out what 'apropos' and 'whatis' did - try 'whatis whatis' :-) > Apache, is nice, It tells you where to find help. albeit worthless > if one does not have a connection to the internet! Actually this is something that really annoys me with certain programs. Why couldn't they provide an .html copy of their online help with the code? (It's not as if it's difficult or involves giving away any trade secrets). Not everyone has a permanent Internet connection paid for by someone else! > There is mention of the pkg_* commands, suffecient I belive! > My point was to stay one step ahead of the user by pointing to > the documentation. The pointer to the documentation could be > displayed in the pkg_info infofile. > Some do, some don't, All should! I'm all in favour of consistency - at the moment this is left to the discretion of whoever created the package (this is the price you pay for having people work for you for nothing - if you start trying to lay down rules, they immediately lose interest). > I would think this would also be good for the Team by helping to > prevent some of these repetious questions. And good for the readers by preventing repetitious answers :-) Unfortunately this is all a bit academic as far as 2.1.5 is concerned (the packages were all compiled last week), but maybe something can be done for 2.2. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 01:05:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA15275 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-1.mail.demon.net (relay-1.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.140]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15266 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-1.mail.demon.net id ab06661; 8 Jul 96 9:05 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab10032; 7 Jul 96 15:47 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA01447; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:29:20 GMT Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:29:20 GMT Message-Id: <199607071029.KAA01447@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: tcg@ime.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31DF553C.677A@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Sun, 07 Jul 1996 02:12:12 -0400) Subject: Re: makeing world Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I'm having problems making world, It keeps crashing and I don't > > > get a chance to see the screen before it re-boots and eats > > > my source tree. > > > > Any clues in /var/log/messages? > > Nope, Nothing.. I looked even though I didn't think make writes > anything to log/messages. It doesn't, but if there's a system problem (like a panic) it should get logged. My suspicion is that you ran out of virtual memory; when this happens, FreeBSD starts killing off processes to try and make more room, and it may have killed off init(8) by mistake. I don't think you'd get a log entry in these circumstances. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 01:11:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA15524 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.is.co.za (apollo.is.co.za [196.4.160.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA15518 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.is.co.za (admin.is.co.za [196.23.0.9]) by apollo.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/IShub#2) with ESMTP id KAA09835; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:10:39 +0200 (GMT) Received: (from robin@localhost) by admin.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/ISsubsidiary#1) id KAA02228; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:10:36 +0200 (GMT) From: Robin Lunn Message-Id: <199607080810.KAA02228@admin.is.co.za> Subject: Re: stop "ls -d" in nslookup To: jrclark@netview.net (John Clark) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:10:34 +0200 (GMT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960708152638.0094b20c@netview.net> from "John Clark" at Jul 7, 96 03:27:23 pm X-Organisation: The Internet Solution (Pty) Ltd. X-Phone: +27-11-4475566; Fax: +27-11-4475567 Reply-To: robin@is.co.za X-AIDAT-Member: See http://www.aidat.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Clark wrote: > Having looked at many different name servers (with nslookup), I see that > some do not allow you to list their entire domain (ie. ls -d > x.x.x.in-addr.arpa), although they seem to function properly, and give the > scant information that a "set q=any" host query generates. My question is > how do I do this too? I don't particularly want to leave my arpa table open > for listing, but I do need arpa resolution. Does anyone know the "trick" to > stop my name server from being such a whore? ;^) Using bind 4.9.3 have a look at the bootfile option "xfernets". To be really secure, say that only the secondaries for your zones can do zone transfers. -- _ __ | Only my ideas here unless I say otherwise... ' ) ) / | (BeamJack@IRC) /--' ____/___o __ | "Nondum amabam, et amare amabam... quaerebam / \_(_) /_) (__/) )_ | quid amarem, amans amare." - St Augustine From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 01:42:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA17187 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17171 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA07358 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:41:43 +0200 (SAT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:41:40 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: after 2.1.5 releases Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. Just a quick, simple query. After 2.1.5 stable is released, there are to be no further updates to the stable tree. It will in effect cease to exist. Does that mean I can go ahead and smoke the cvs tree off my machine? Or will I still need it for any updates that do come along ? Basically, is there going to be a tree specifically/seperate to the current tree as it exists now ? Regards, Khetan Gajjar. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 02:02:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA18588 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plaut.de ([194.39.177.166]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA18401 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA17419 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:43:16 +0200 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06086 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:00:14 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:00:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: CCD questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, is it possible to have ones rootpartition mirrored? (ccdconfig -c ccd0 /dev/sd0a /dev/sd1a) I would like to load the kernel from /dev/sd0a and do a ccdconfig -C before mounting the root r/w. The questions: Does CCD mirrored devices need some space on the harddisk for itself? Can I use the original partitions after mirroring? (I tried a fsck /dev/rsd0a, which failed) How do I notice, if one partition of the mirrors go bad and what happens then? Can I use the remainder partition ? Can I extract the files from the valid partition? What if I reboot and only have one part of the mirror? Could we have some model of initiating the mirror with one half and adding the second half? Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 02:06:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA18986 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skeg.cst.com.au (skeg.cst.com.au [203.61.252.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA18976 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bala@localhost) by skeg.cst.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.11) id TAA01604 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:05:57 +1000 From: Bala Periasamy Message-Id: <199607080905.TAA01604@skeg.cst.com.au> Subject: Virtual Host To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:05:56 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have got one interface I want to make this interface point to two IP address On the command line, if i type the following it works. >ifconfig ed0 inet 100.x.xx.x alias >route add -host 100.x.xx.x 127.0.0.1 I want the above to happen when the machine reboots. What should I do in the /etc/sysconfig file. In what format, do I have to add lines? thanx From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 02:31:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA20348 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chizuru.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (chizuru.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20340 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.22]) by chizuru.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.1W-2.8compat) with ESMTP id SAA24935; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:30:52 +0900 Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.7.5/3.4Wbeta5) id SAA01335; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:30:51 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199607080930.SAA01335@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: [2.1-960627-SNAP] some devices was not included in boot.flp X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:30:51 +0900 From: MIHIRA Yoshiro Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I try to install 2.1-960627-SNAP via Intel EtherExpress Pro Ethernet card(fxp0). (Because from HARDWARE.TXT, fxp0 is maybe in GENERIC kernel.) But kernel in boot.flp was not configured some devices, one of fxp0, and can't use and install via fxp0. I hope that this problem is fixed until next release. thank you *not configure devices in 2.1-960627-SNAP* fxp0,vx0,eg0 Yoshiro MIHIRA Keio Univ. Japan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 02:31:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA20374 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA20366 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA13745; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:27:55 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607081127.LAA13745@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: xforms - what is it? To: plate@infotek.dk (John Plate) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:27:54 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9607052011.AA13061@infotek.infotek.dk> from John Plate at "Jul 5, 96 10:11:39 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Werner Griessl > > Sorry ! I meant xforms-0.81/fdesign (xfmail-0.4 is based on this) > > > > Looks good for me for such a thing . > > I've never heard of xforms. What is it? > > Thank you in advance. > It's in the ports tree "ports/x11/xforms" . This is from pkg/DESCR: This is the binary distribution of XForms, a graphical user interface toolkit for X Window Systems. It should work under X11 R4, R5 & R6. There is also a program "fdesign" in the port to make a GUI interactive. I played last week with the new 0.81 release and it looks good for me. Try the demos in it to see more ! Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 02:45:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21123 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21107 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA02401 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:45:05 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA01675; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:01:39 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607080701.AAA01675@starshine> Subject: Re: search engine To: fyeung@netific.com (francis yeung) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607072157.VAA09565@fyeung5.netific.com> from "francis yeung" at Jul 7, 96 09:57:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Greeting, > Is there a public domain search engine for FreeBSD ? > Thanks. > Francis Try the 'glimpse' package. It contains a full featured text indexing engine and command line search tool. There is a package "GlimpseGate" which provides a web interface to glimpse - and it is possible to configure glimpse to make a very fast, lightweight, and reasonably full-featured search system for your HTML document trees. I think you can find more info at the U of Arizona (recently moved don't have all my bookmark files handy). Jim Dennis Proprietor, Starshine Services From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 02:45:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21124 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21109 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA02440 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:45:08 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA01799; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:37:43 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607080837.BAA01799@starshine> Subject: Re: Dial up (dynamic IP) Web Server - Possible? To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01BB6B86.ED39D2C0@ppp143.bcpl.lib.md.us> from "Anil John" at Jul 6, 96 10:03:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings, > > I would like to know if the following is possible. > > My setup: > > * I have a dial up PPP connection to a provider who assigns a dynamic IP > address each time I connect. > * I have a valid domain name registered with Internic (say, bar.org), but > it is not mapped to any static IP address. > * My machine is foo.bar.org > > What I would like to do: > > Dial up and get connected to my provider. When someone looks up > http://www.bar.org, they connect to my machine which is running the apache > web server and has the designation of www.bar.org (for the duration of my > connection to my provider). Yuck! What do you really want them to be able to access? What service are you really trying to provide? > > I guess what I am asking is is there a way to map a domain to a dynamic IP > address? Sort of. You can accomplish something like that using IP tunneling (that is: you bring up the dynamic interface -- then establish a tunneled session to a static address). However this is not appropriate to your situation. > Anil I think you are suffering from a fundamental misunderstanding of how internet services in general (and the web in particular) are supposed to work. If you want to provide a service to the 'net (such as a set of web pages) you have to arrange for that service to be available 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week (i.e. "most of the time" -- or best effort thereto). You will be doing yourself and your intended audience a dis-service if you try to jury rig something like this together. One way to provide a set of web pages through "normal" means without having a dedicated line to your ISP is to arrange to have your pages virtual hosted (as I currently do at rahul.net in San Jose, CA). Starshine's current connection to the net is via uucp (for mail, and news), ppp (for web *client* and other services), shell (for adinistrative work) and virtual hosting (for my ftp and web server). I've only recently brought up the www/ftp vhost (since I only recently found the time or inclination). There are several reasons I chose Rahul (a2i Communications). He offers an "a la carte" list of services -- you start with a basic shell account (no hourly limits) and add the services you want (create a web document tree or directory under ftp/pub for a one-time charge; add uucp for another charge + monthly (high and low volume options), add ppp for another monthly, create a DNS domain (one time charge and you pay InterNIC fees yourself), etc). I also noted that Rahul has rather liberal policies regarding CGI scripts and server side includes (.SHTML). Here's how I'll be managing these: I run a web server at home. I compose all my docs on it, run weblint, look them over with a couple of browsers (lynx, then Netscape, then Internet Explorer, then maybe TkWWW or Emacs W3-mode or Arena, whatever). I also write and test any CGI's here. When I'm satisfied with a given set of pages I run 'make public' -- which tars up all the new or modified pages, compresses that, launches a shell session to my provider, uploads the files, decompresses and untars them into place (as a backgrounded task if possible). Another way you can accomplish what you want is called co-location. You get a machine, configure it with all of the services you want to provide (including both the public services and whatever you'll need for remote administration) -- and you make arrangements to have that machine put on an ISP's rack. The ISP provides power and an ethernet or high speed PPP connection (this allows them to "throttle down" your bandwidth utilization so you machine doesn't "choke out" the other machines on their net). The ISP might also provide a phone line (so you can dial into your machine for remote access and so your machine can dial out -- with alerts, for example. You provide the equipment. The advantages of co-locating over virtual hosting are: You can run whatever services you want -- allowing incoming telnet to WAIS, or custom database clients, CGI's that your provider might consider too dangerous or performance hungry to allow on his hosts. You can use as much disk space as you can fit into the machine (typically you are given a disk quota on your virtual host -- with monthly charges for any usage beyond that). You can use as much CPU as you like -- and you can run whichever OS you like. The disadvantages to co-locating: You have to provide the machine -- this means at a minimum a 386 with at least 16Mb and at least a couple hundred meg. of disk space (which would still be pretty wimpy -- for most net servers) You generally don't have 24 hour console access to the machine (or there may be charges for accessing it during certain hours). It's generally *expensive*. Not "quite" as expensive as maintaining your own dedicated line -- but close enough that you might not find it attractive. You generally have no control over the packet filters on the router(s) -- or you have to provide a router in addition to the box. A good router costs about as much as a PC. Having not control over your packet filters leaves you at the mercy of their security policies (i.e. you might have to rely overly much on the host's own configuration & security). Worse, some of the protocols that you might want to access on your machine might be blocked off (it's very important to check with your ISP before committing on this point). I've been offered a couple of low-cost co-located alternatives through personal friends and aquaintances (one of them is just a 28.8 line, but free, she just runs one little system on it and hardly uses any bandwidth -- besides she's been toying with the idea of getting a PC to play with since more and more of here clients are asking her about porting things to NT). I've bought all the parts for a new machine at home (150 Mhz Pentium, 64Mb RAM, 7 Gig of disk space on two drives) -- so that'll free up the old 486 (DX2/66 -- 32Mb ~1 G) which I might put on her LAN. I have another friend who has a T-1 into his place -- but he's all the way up in Berkeley, and another in Mountain View who's starting up his own frame-relay site in the garage. Either of them would want some help on defraying their costs (naturally). My point is that there are ways to do this that don't egregiously break the protocols and conventions of the net. Which brings us back to the first question. What exactly is your goal? Do you want to just play with a server that you can access "from the outside"? You can do that by bringing up your connection and pointing your browser at the dynamic IP address. Do you want to play with apache add-in modules? You can do that on the localhost anyway. It is phenomenally difficult for me to imagine anything that you could be trying to do that would worthwhile *and* that could be effectively offered via dynamically issued IP addresses. It would be trivial for your provider to issue you a static address. It might be somewhat more difficult for them to change their modem banks/terminal servers/hosts to deal with that. It might be easier for them to have you log in, get a dynamic address, and then establish a tunneled connection to provide the static address (bring back to my first comment). One last option: Assuming that your ISP is running the bleeding-edge latest version of BIND, and is willing to configure a special set of DNS tables for your domain you could and if your ISP was willing to do some very odd fiddling about with a custom connection script... then they could set up a situation where the DNS lookup would work O.K. (for very small values of "O.K."). (Basically the connection script would write a new DNS/zone file for your domain, and send a SIGHUP to the named on the primary nameserver. The zone file for your domain would specify a very short refresh time so your address wouldn't stay in any *compliant* client's address cache for very long. The latest version of named has an option to ping an IP address before resolving a name to address. Offhand I don't know how one would handle the teardown of the dynamic zone file -- since the dynamic address that you got would be granted to another caller after you've disconnected and having traffic directed to your service get routed to some other customer is totally unacceptable). Basically I wouldn't even consider offering this if I was an ISP. I wouldn't even consider asking an ISP to consider trying this. It's just too damn ugly. This is so bad I'm tempted to delete it before sending off this message... (naw -- but almost). So, what are you planning on publishing on your pages? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 02:54:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21514 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts4-101.indigo.ie [194.125.133.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA21505 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA12368; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:53:50 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:52:24 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@NetworX.ie Subject: Re: Shared Memory Questions To: Tom Bartol Cc: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tom, I dunno if the following is any use to you, but I wrote an application that uses shared memory (it has small shm requirements) and here's what I set my kernconfig file to. I also had to make a slight mod to ipcs.c, to stop it from aborting on seg violations. It was a small mod -- the code was referencing an incorrect variable (as a result of the programmer cutting and pasting?). I don't have the source code to hand. If you like, I'll dig it out and post the changes to you. ------------------------------------------------------------ # # These three options provide support for System V Interface # Definition-style interprocess communication, in the form of shared # memory, semaphores, and message queues, respectively. # #options SYSVSHM #options SYSVSEM #options SYSVMSG # # mjmr 951126 Tune sems and shms. # #options "SHMMAXPGS=128" # 512KB shm #options "SHMMAX=16384" #options "SHMMIN=1" #options "SHMMNI=256" #options "SHMSEG=128" #options "SHMALL=300" #options "SEMMNI=256" #options "SEMMAP=30" #options "SEMMNS=500" #options "SEMMNU=30" # MR951127 The option SEMMSL restricts the number of semaphores that can # be *deleted*, but not the number that can be created. From various # descriptions, it would appear it should do neither. For a good margin, # I've given it the same value as SEMMNI. #options "SEMMSL=256" #options "SEMOPM=10" #options "SEMUME=10" #options "SEMVMX=32768" # hardwired in /usr/src/sys/sys/sem.h #options "SEMAEM=16384" # so we won't redefine here ------------------------------------------------------------ Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 02:56:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21635 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA21538 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA13911; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:40:44 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607081140.LAA13911@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: ron@infi.net (Ron Steele) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:40:43 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960705154042.006707e8@mailhost.infi.net> from Ron Steele at "Jul 5, 96 11:40:42 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Never heard of it. Give me some info and I will take a look. It's in our ports tree in "ports/x11/xforms" ! > I have to admit the tcl/tk is pretty bizarre stuff, but it's > quick and is becoming pretty common. > > Ron > > I saw the discussion during the weekend. It's a GUI-toolkit-library including an interactive GUI-builder (fdesign). It would be useful for a X-frontend. Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 03:03:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA21926 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.ai.net ([208.194.41.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA21917 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id GAA28272; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:02:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:02:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: David Greenman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-Reply-To: <199607080147.SAA00690@root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Watching modem lights is an extremely poor way to do critical analysis. The > SunOS machines send out ACKs every other packet and further restrict the > window size to 4096 bytes. I'm really suprised that FreeBSD comes out worse > in your test. If you're doing the tests using ftp.cdrom.com as the endpoint > then you might be seeing the effects of asymetric lossage - especially since > there are so many intermediate hops involved. I suggest looking for dropped > packets in the netstat -s statistics. > Oh, and you didn't mention which version of FreeBSD you're using or whether > you're using the kernel PPP or usermode ijppp. You could be seeing the effects > of one or more bugs in the PPP code. FTP.CDROM.COM is only about 5 hops away, and we are T3 the whole route. I wasn't using a FreeBSD box as the PPP server, it was an Annex Xylogics box. For the application we are using, we are highly interested in maximizing the PPP thruput even if speeds > 50MBit are compromised. We can set up a special set of FTP servers for our customers using better than ether. If there is any information I can provide, please let me know. Thanks for your help. -Tomas. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 03:12:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA22792 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.ai.net ([208.194.41.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA22784 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id GAA28426; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:11:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:11:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: Jaye Mathisen cc: David Greenman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Whoah. I tried the same thing on an NT box and my jaw dropped. 4.76Kbytes/second on the same 3MB file. Amazing. I wouldn't even mind having two separate FTP sites on the same machine [with different optimizations on each]. I would, however, like to find out what specifically NT is doing differently than FreeBSD 2.1-stable. Thanks for your information! -Tomas On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > All this might be true, but the article I sent a reference out about > recently pointed out several shortcomings in TCP re slow speed links, and > that tweaks that helped the high end were having a negative effect on the > low end. > > Sun specifically rewrote the drivers and tweaked some constants to help > with this specific issue, so it doesn't surprise me at all. > > My users see similar behaviour. They can FTP files faster from an > unloaded NT box than they can from an unloaded FreeBSD box. yet both can > drive the thernet at wire speeds. (They're coming in over a 28.8 PPP > connections to Livingston PM's and Digiboards) In both cases the configs > are almost identical, P120's, 3com ethernet, 2GB Seagate disks, NT3.51 on > a Buslogic, and FreeBSd on and adaptec. > > This is reproducible at will. > > So now after I went to all the hassle to switch from BSD/OS to FreeBSD, I > find I probably would be able to keep more users happier by changing > things to NT. This is depressing. > > I have the original article still, if anybody is interested. > > On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, David Greenman wrote: > > > >On one of our development machines we are running wu-ftpd. When FTP'ing > > >over a T-3 to a PPP (28.8kbaud) line from a PPro 200 to it we were seeing > > >as low as 2.0k/second. Yet, FTP'ing from a Sun 4/75 we were seeing > > >2.8kbaud solid performance. > > > > > >It appears to be [by watching modem lights] that the BSD box isn't > > >streaming in the sense of a continuous send or receive while receiving > > >acks along the way. The Sun boxes [all of them] seem to do this out of > > >the box. > > > > > >I verified this behavior on ftp.cdrom.com and random SunOS boxes. > > > > > >Any ideas how to make the BSD behavior more like the SunOS? > > > > Watching modem lights is an extremely poor way to do critical analysis. The > > SunOS machines send out ACKs every other packet and further restrict the > > window size to 4096 bytes. I'm really suprised that FreeBSD comes out worse > > in your test. If you're doing the tests using ftp.cdrom.com as the endpoint > > then you might be seeing the effects of asymetric lossage - especially since > > there are so many intermediate hops involved. I suggest looking for dropped > > packets in the netstat -s statistics. > > Oh, and you didn't mention which version of FreeBSD you're using or whether > > you're using the kernel PPP or usermode ijppp. You could be seeing the effects > > of one or more bugs in the PPP code. > > > > -DG > > > > David Greenman > > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 03:22:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA23586 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.ai.net ([208.194.41.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA23580 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.12) id GAA28643; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:22:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:22:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: Jaye Mathisen cc: David Greenman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Actually I spent a few hours on Sunday making some modifications to the way wu-ftpd treats the socket and how it handles the files as it is reading/writing them off the drive. I think the modifications that have been made actually edge out a bit faster than the SunOS box I have been comparing it against. I am going to keep looking into this. It seems that the ftpd that ships with FreeBSD is actually faster than the wu-ftpd port on -stable machines too. [For less than say 100 simultaneous FTPs]. I took a lot of the idea for a lot of the modifications from the standard ftpd program. -Tomas. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 03:40:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA24364 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wet.kiss.uni-lj.si (wet.kiss.uni-lj.si [193.2.98.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA24355 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from k4ef0098@localhost) by wet.kiss.uni-lj.si (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA26116; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:39:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:39:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Damir Cifer To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > > What I wonder is if it will be possible to install FreeBSD into a part of > > the extended partition (logical partition) in the 2.2.0 release? Is it > > perhaps already possible in the current snaps? > No, FreeBSD requires it's own slice. Seems I have to rephrase :) (bad formulation :)) Is it possible to install FreeBSD (if not, when will it be) into a logical extended partition. Like in Linux you can install for example into /dev/hdc8 (6. logical partition on the 3rd drive)? Cya From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 04:03:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA25332 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA25319 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA08374 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:03:03 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA01833; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:46:25 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607080846.BAA01833@starshine> Subject: Re: IP masquerading possible? To: gar@ccnet.com (Adam Capell) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607070053.RAA17971@ccnet4.ccnet.com> from "Adam Capell" at Jul 6, 96 05:49:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is there a way to do IP masquerading under FreeBSD, so that I can > connect my network to the internet with only a single static IP > number? Look for Darren Reed's IPFilter package. It includes some code to provide NAT (Network Address Translation) -- which is another term for "masquerading." Please understand that some protocols (like talk) will not work properly through masquerading. Also, I suspect that NAT/masquerading produces a heavier load on the server than proxying (via SOCKS). I would suggest setting up proxying services -- deploying the clients for those -- and saving NAT for those services that can't run via SOCKS. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 04:03:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA25370 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA25356 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA08386 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:03:05 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA01859; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:11:58 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607080911.CAA01859@starshine> Subject: Re: mailbox To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: malvin@webscape.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jul 7, 96 11:36:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Malvin C. wrote: > > > I like to inquire if it is possible to setup a single login account > > while at the same time having multiple mailboxes each having their own > > passwd. > > I don't know of any way to do this under the current mail system. You > can have multiple email addresses for one account (through aliases) but > they are not separately password protected, they end up all in the same > mailbox. > > Doug White | University of Oregon Doug, your slipping. You have the user access a single login account but have the backend configured with each of the mailboxes as a different account. Then you create a script that goes something like this: #! /usr/bin/bash # mailbox script [ -z "$1" ] \ && su -c "$1" $mailreader $mua_args \ || echo ${0}: "usage: $0 mailbox -- must specify which box" Not the user types: mailbox foo (assuming the name mailbox for the script and 'foo' for one of the mailboxes) 'su' then asks for a password and launches an MUA. A similar effect could be obtained by configuring a particular MUA as the login shell for this set of users and using 'su - $1' Yet another effect could be obtained by using 'popclient'. Technically these all require Unix accounts to be created -- but this is a backend fact that need not be visible to the user. Another method would be to create a set of sendmail aliases that fed into files (rather than addresses) -- the syntax for that is simply: aliasname: /where/ever/you/want/to/store/it/full/path/to/file Now you have several choices about how to provide access to these files. A set of entries in /etc/group with passwords and a port of the 'newgrp' command, a few lines of suid perl, access controlled through your httpd's htaccess file (or it's equivalent) whatever. There are some POP servers that maintain a separate password/user database. One could install and configure that -- and use popclient for the access. There are lots of options. Jim Dennis From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 04:13:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA26151 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rolta.com (firewall-user@gatekeeper.rolta.com [165.113.135.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA26126 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rolta.com; id FAA10663; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 05:59:41 -0500 Received: from 68f800.rolta.com(204.177.195.25) by gatekeeper.rolta.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma010659; Mon, 8 Jul 96 05:59:25 -0500 Received: by 68f800.rolta.com (5.65c/1.920109) id AA22600; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:39:33 GMT From: vdongre@rolta.com (Vrushal Dongre) Message-Id: <199607081639.AA22600@68f800.rolta.com> Subject: problem with ELM To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:39:25 IST X-Mailer: ELM [version 07.00.00.00 (2.3 PL11)] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello All ! I need some help &...quickly please ! I have a FBSD 2.0 mailserver & I have installed ELM on the system. The compilation went OK . But now when I type elm at the prompt I get the following messages :- Waiting to read mailbox while mail is being received: attempt #n After 7 attempts it says:- Giving up after 7 iteration. Please try to read your mail again in a few minutes. Timed out on locking mailbox. Leaving program. Can anyone tell me what I have to do to make ELM work ? If I make any changes to the configuration file will I have to recompile the whole thing again ? i.e. run --> 'make all ' ? Help is greatly appreciated. :-( Vrushal -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vrushal Dongre Email: vdongre@rolta.com " Nothing, is the worst thing that can happen to anybody " -Richard Bach ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 04:22:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA26783 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ampere.excelsus.com (ampere.excelsus.com [207.2.82.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA26777 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 04:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from weldon@localhost) by ampere.excelsus.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA00935; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:21:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:21:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 To: questions@freebsd.org cc: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: SUMMARY: Linux passwd -> FBSD passwd utility (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the info, the conversion went very well with the FBSD 2.2S running DES encryption. I used Brandon's perl script to move the passwords in. Weldon Here's the script: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:45:50 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: Weldon S Godfrey 3 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux passwd -> FBSD passwd utility On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Weldon S Godfrey 3 wrote: > I would like to setup a FBSD box to replace an Linux system, but there is > the issue of porting the passwords over. Does anyone have, or know where > to get, an utility/method to import linux passwords into a FreeBSD box? > > Weldon I dont know about a linux system with shadow passwords, but this will work elsewhere (assuming they are using the same password encryption scheme ----cut here---- #!/usr/bin/perl ## ## syntax: frobpwd < linux.passwd > freebsd.passwd ## ## No guarantees about the suitability or functionality of this script, ## I just hacked it up from memory of one I have used before ## while () { chomp; ($name, $pwd, $uid, $gid, $gcos, $home, $shell) = split(/:/); print "$name:$pwd:$uid:$gid::0:0:$gcos:$home:$shell"; } ---- WG Note: I removed the last \n, it added an extra space to the file, the EOLN character is carried in with $shell. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 05:15:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA00228 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 05:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA00219 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 05:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA09024; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:14:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:14:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Bala Periasamy cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual Host In-Reply-To: <199607080905.TAA01604@skeg.cst.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I do all of my aliasing in /etc/rc.local Mike On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Bala Periasamy wrote: > I have got one interface > I want to make this interface point to two IP address > > On the command line, if i type the following it works. > >ifconfig ed0 inet 100.x.xx.x alias > >route add -host 100.x.xx.x 127.0.0.1 > > I want the above to happen when the machine reboots. > What should I do in the /etc/sysconfig file. > In what format, do I have to add lines? > > thanx > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 05:30:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA00947 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 05:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA00942 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 05:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA04026; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:30:09 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA20949; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:31:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:31:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Derek Law cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i have a question In-Reply-To: <31E0A205.51CF@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Derek Law wrote: > I have a question about freebsd. I am interested in using it on my > computer (Pentium 75, 24 MB RAM, 850 MB HDD). Here is my question: Can I > use freebsd and keep and continue to use my current MS-DOS/WIN 3.1/WIN95 > operating systems on it? Do I have to reformat my HDD and make additional > partitions on it? Can I run all of my current DOS/WINDOWS programs if I > get it? Is there any way to uninstall it if I don't like it? In order... Yes. See the file at the other end of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/INSTALL. If you wait a little while, you should soon be able to install 2.1.5-RELEASE. No...with conditions. If you split a DOS partition with Fips, it would be ....unwise.... to read the partition with FreeBSD. `mount_msdos' in FreeBSD has bugs that are particularly likely to show up when reading DOS partitions that have been fips'd. These bugs are being fixed, but for the moment, `mount_msdos' can be unreliable...ie. it can destroy your data. Yes, but not necessarily from FreeBSD. Windows and DOS emulation exist. For text only programs, PCEMU works well (emulates an XT). Yes. Run `fdisk /mbr' from DOS to remove the Boot Selector. You can the just reformat the FBSD partition for DOS (use DOS's fdisk again w/ format d:). If you used Fips to split a partition, you can probably just use Fips's undo disk, but I'd like someone else from the list to confirm that this won't cause damage... 60-70 columns per line, please. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 06:08:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA02687 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA02679 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA00231 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:10:17 GMT Received: from buffnet7.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa10285; 8 Jul 96 9:08 EDT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:08:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Hovey To: Vrushal Dongre cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with ELM In-Reply-To: <199607081639.AA22600@68f800.rolta.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Vrushal Dongre wrote: > > Hello All ! > I need some help &...quickly please ! > I have a FBSD 2.0 mailserver & I have installed ELM on the system. > The compilation went OK . > But now when I type elm at the prompt I get the following messages :- > > Waiting to read mailbox while mail is being received: attempt #n > > After 7 attempts it says:- > Giving up after 7 iteration. > Please try to read your mail again in a few minutes. > Timed out on locking mailbox. Leaving program. Are you trying to do this over NFS ? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 06:11:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA02894 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from only.justcompute.com (only.justcompute.com [208.128.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA02878 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.justcompute.com (bbs.justcompute.com [208.128.131.2]) by only.justcompute.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA04215 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607081307.JAA04215@only.justcompute.com> Received: from [208.128.131.109] by BBS.justcompute.com id 49240.wrk; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:09:08 EDT From: "Chris Lavin" To: Subject: HELP With apache and Mod_auth_dbm Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:05:26 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help! I am trying to compile apache with Mod_auth_dbm and whenever I do I get the error message "ld: -lndbm; no Match". So if I xcomment that I out I get an error from cc that says "mod_auth_dbm.o: undefinded symbol '_crypt' referenced from text segment" Can anyone help or am I beyond help?!?!?1? Thanx Chris From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 06:27:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA03678 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from only.justcompute.com (only.justcompute.com [208.128.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03673 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.justcompute.com (bbs.justcompute.com [208.128.131.2]) by only.justcompute.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA04237 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607081324.JAA04237@only.justcompute.com> Received: from [208.128.131.109] by BBS.justcompute.com id 4b300.wrk; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:25:32 EDT From: "Chris Lavin" To: Subject: Pentium Pro 200 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:21:56 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does freeBsd take FULL advantage of the Pentium Pro Proccessor?..Should I go that route or what?..I am currently running a couple of 133 Mhz Pentium systems and I don't knwo whether I should Bump them up!!!! Any Advice would be greatly appreciated.. Thanx Chris From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 06:30:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA03874 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03865 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA12486; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 22:59:28 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 22:59:28 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199607081329.WAA12486@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, Alain.Thivillon@alma.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Network] PPPD ou User PPP ? X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article Doug White wrote: : On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Alain Thivillon wrote: : > I'm trying to configure my FreeBSD server (HP LC 64/2Go, FreeBSD 2.1) : > to serve as a PPP server for my remote users. I want the following : > behaviour : : > - no login shell started, direct CHAP authentification You can do this a few ways, i'd recommend getting mgetty-0.99beta and using the AUTO_PPP detection stuff to pass off anything talking ppp straight to a ppp process. : make an account with username 'ppp' no password, have it start up the : pppd session as a script or directly from /etc/ttys. Then set up the : pppd for chap. This still needs a client-side script to enter "ppp" at the login prompt, which suxs a little :) : huh? Using usermode ppp you can have it argue with the server to try to : obtain specific IPs. If you want to do specific addressing I think that : is possible, don't know though. Yup its possible depending on what you want to do as to how difficult it is :) : > I have read the handbook, FAQ and others documents, but there is no : > relay good advice on "server side" PPP. : Go look again. I'm pretty sure there is a whole section devoted to all : aspects of ppp, client and server. Yes but its pretty dated, and doesn't really address the current type of support that ISP's want to provide... like out of the box support for Win95, with negotiation of NameServer addresses etc. Perhaps a "tutorial" for the tutorials section on setting up dialup access for ISP and other applications with notes about all the client specific breakages would be of use??? anyone think so? Peter -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds The internet is full, please try again in half an hour... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 06:32:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA03963 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.23.199]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03910 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12130; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:26:20 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:26:20 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Adam Capell cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IP masquerading possible? In-Reply-To: <199607070053.RAA17971@ccnet4.ccnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a way to do IP masquerading under FreeBSD, so that I can > connect my network to the internet with only a single static IP > number? Yes!, and works better, just use the package cached (is in the distfiles/ports/packages). It is a proxy for ftp/http that works good under FreeBSD and Netscape. I have several boxes using it. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 06:32:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA03984 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03976 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from downlink.eng.umd.edu (downlink.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.182]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15276; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by downlink.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15522; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@downlink.eng.umd.edu To: Tim Vanderhoek cc: Derek Law , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i have a question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Derek Law wrote: > > > I have a question about freebsd. I am interested in using it on my > > computer (Pentium 75, 24 MB RAM, 850 MB HDD). Here is my question: Can I > > use freebsd and keep and continue to use my current MS-DOS/WIN 3.1/WIN95 > > operating systems on it? Do I have to reformat my HDD and make additional > > partitions on it? Can I run all of my current DOS/WINDOWS programs if I > > get it? Is there any way to uninstall it if I don't like it? > > In order... > > Yes. See the file at the other end of > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/INSTALL. If you wait a > little while, you should soon be able to install 2.1.5-RELEASE. > > No...with conditions. If you split a DOS partition with Fips, it would > be ....unwise.... to read the partition with FreeBSD. `mount_msdos' in > FreeBSD has bugs that are particularly likely to show up when reading DOS > partitions that have been fips'd. These bugs are being fixed, but for > the moment, `mount_msdos' can be unreliable...ie. it can destroy your data. Just to make that a little clearer, it's fine to read the dos partition, but the risky part comes in WRITING TO the dos partition. I've never seen the least problem reading the data. Probably safest to do the mount as a read only mount. > Yes, but not necessarily from FreeBSD. Windows and DOS emulation exist. > For text only programs, PCEMU works well (emulates an XT). > > Yes. Run `fdisk /mbr' from DOS to remove the Boot Selector. You can the > just reformat the FBSD partition for DOS (use DOS's fdisk again w/ format > d:). If you used Fips to split a partition, you can probably just use > Fips's undo disk, but I'd like someone else from the list to confirm that > this won't cause damage... > > 60-70 columns per line, please. > > > -- > Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! > tIM...HOEk > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 06:32:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA04013 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.23.199]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03956 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12152; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:35:40 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:35:39 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Fred Adorno cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing under Netscape In-Reply-To: <31DF636C.41C67EA6@idt.liberty.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Fred Adorno wrote: > Now that I got netscape working under X-Windows why can't I print a file > that is legible. Do I need to get a PS-Adobe reader or driver > installed? > > Hello Fred. You need to install a ghostcript package (PS interpreter). and a filter in the lp to "interpret" the whole thing. Here is an example of a filter, must be mode 0755 (chwn 0755 xxxxx) in the DEVICE=epson, customize to your printer type (gs -h for details). --------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh read x t=`echo $x | cut -c1-2` if [ $t = "%!" ] then echo $x > /tmp/$$ cat /tmp/$$ - | \ /usr/local/bin/gs -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE \ -sOUTPUTFILE=- -sDEVICE=epson - rm -f /tmp/$$ else cat echo -n fi ------------------------------------------------- and an example for the printcap.... --------------------------------------------- # @(#)printcap 5.3 (Berkeley) 6/30/90 #lp|local line printer:\ lp|local line printer:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp: \ :mx#0:so:sh:sb:of=/usr/lib/lp/filters/lp:sf --------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-------- need to customize it for your system From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 06:44:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA04609 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tower.louisville.edu (tower.louisville.edu [136.165.252.246]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA04604 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 06:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mike@localhost) by tower.louisville.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA20910; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:43:30 -0400 From: Mike Harpe Message-Id: <199607081343.JAA20910@tower.louisville.edu> Subject: Re: Floppy tape program QIC-80 To: cmadison@tippy2.vnet.net (Chris Madison) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, root@babel.cais.com, questions@freebsd.org, babel@cais.com In-Reply-To: from "Chris Madison" at Jul 7, 96 06:30:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk SHould I remove the ft driver if I install lft? I tried lft with a Colorado T1000 and still got the device timeout errors. I am running 2.1.0-RELEASE. Mike Harpe From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 07:03:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA05414 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lcurtis.intecom.com (lcurtis.intecom.com [192.246.135.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA05409 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lcurtis@localhost) by lcurtis.intecom.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA00023 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:08:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: lcurtis.intecom.com: lcurtis owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:08:12 +03d-5 From: Leon Curtis To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Handling time after 1999 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been asked to look into what other unix kernel groups are planning to do to address problems with time when the year 2000 arrives. I would appreciate any pointers that would enable me to get "plugged in" to any dialog / specifications relating to this issue. I work for a company that owns a version of (real time) unix put out by LynxOS (Los Gatos, California). Our PBX product runs this OS and will be the benefactor of the time changes. Thanks! __________________________________________________________________________ Leon Curtis lcurtis@intecom.com bus. (214) 447 8119 fax (214) 447 8603 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 07:04:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA05521 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA05516 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA08273; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:03:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607081403.KAA08273@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: HELP With apache and Mod_auth_dbm To: chrisl@bbs.justcompute.com (Chris Lavin) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607081307.JAA04215@only.justcompute.com> from "Chris Lavin" at Jul 8, 96 09:05:26 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Help! > I am trying to compile apache with Mod_auth_dbm and whenever I do I > get the error message "ld: -lndbm; no Match". So if I xcomment that I out > I get an error from cc that says "mod_auth_dbm.o: undefinded symbol > '_crypt' referenced from text segment" crypt() needs -lcrypt flag to the compiler/linker NDBM could be missing from your system - check for I'm not sure if regular DBM could be used as the substitute , but db* family of functions lives in regular libc and therefore doesn't require -lndbm. Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 07:14:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA06200 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr (bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr [193.252.69.217]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA06186 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr (8.6.12/8.6.11) id QAA12352; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:10:01 +0100 Received: from unknown(193.252.64.242) by bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr via smap (V1.3) id sma012347; Mon Jul 8 16:09:48 1996 Message-ID: <31E12870.41C67EA6@vtcom.fr> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 15:25:36 +0000 From: philippe bertrand Organization: vtcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: philippe@bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr, bertrand@bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr Subject: dirver 3c595 X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi, my FreeBSD is 2.1.0 and i'm looking for a dirver which support the ethernet 3com 3c595 thanks in advance phil@vtcom.fr From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 07:17:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA06488 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com (suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com [158.147.19.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA06483 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suw2k.hisd.harris.com by suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA13260; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:15:44 -0400 Received: by suw2k.hisd.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28641; Mon, 8 Jul 96 10:13:08 EDT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 10:13:08 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.hisd.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9607081413.AA28641@suw2k.hisd.harris.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: bootable CD's Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone created a "bootable" CD? My new motherboard supports booting from the CD but I am not sure how to create such a CD. Thanks for any help Jim Leppek From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 07:18:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA06539 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.23.199]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06106; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12108; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:15:44 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:15:43 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: questions@freebsd.org cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: PARI (MATH cad). Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all who are interest, I am uploading the PARI Math at url: ftp://ftp.bsi.com.br/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/pari-1.39.03.tar.gz PS. It is a Math cad, multi precision math tool for analysys, includes visualisation, Matrix operations ..... The file is in tar/gzip format ready for "MAKE". Just download, untar, and do a "make" int the src directory. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 07:26:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA07255 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr (bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr [193.252.69.217]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07249 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr (8.6.12/8.6.11) id QAA12573; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:22:05 +0100 Received: from unknown(193.252.64.242) by bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr via smap (V1.3) id sma012562; Mon Jul 8 16:21:37 1996 Message-ID: <31E12B35.167EB0E7@vtcom.fr> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 15:37:25 +0000 From: philippe bertrand Organization: vtcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: philippe@bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr, bertrand@bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr Subject: dirver 3c595 References: <199607081510.QAB12352@bourbon.pl.vtcom.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > hi, > my FreeBSD is 2.1.0 and i'm looking for a dirver which support > the ethernet 3com 3c595 > thanks in advance > phil@vtcom.fr From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 07:41:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08295 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA08044 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udGtT-000QfMC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA09755; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:56:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199607081356.PAA09755@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: your mail (no subject) about 3C509 boards To: kitao@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp (Tatsurou MIZUNUMA) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:56:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <9607080422.AA09159@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp> from "Tatsurou MIZUNUMA" at Jul 8, 96 01:22:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tatsurou MIZUNUMA writes: > > Dear Mr. > > My name is Tatsuro Mizunuma, a usr of Free BSD. > > Is there device driver for < 3Com 3C590-COMBO > Network Card ? Yes. I'm using several. > I'm pleased with your answer of my Question. You're welcome. If you put a subject line on your next question, you might get a quicker response. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 08:01:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA09893 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09880 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA03598; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:00:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:00:39 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607081500.AA03598@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: James Raynard Cc: zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's up with ownership? In-Reply-To: <199607062246.WAA03437@jraynard.demon.co.uk> References: <87n31da1pa.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> <199607062246.WAA03437@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> Are files created in a directory >> supposed to have the same gid as the directory (when the directory >> doesn't have the setgid bit on), or does FreeBSD have a bug? > No bugs, this is how it's meant to work! :-) It's worth explaining why this is the Right Thing. Say John and Jane are working on a project together. To make file-sharing easier, they create a group, `jjproj', and a directory, `/home/jjproj', mode ug=rwx,o=rx, owner `root', group `jjproj', and agree to use a umask of 002. Now consider what happens with the SysV behavior when John creates a file. His primary group is not `jjproj', it's something more general like `users' or `devel' or `staff'. Under System V, when he creates a file in this directory, it still gets assigned a group of `users'. Oh dear! Now all of the people in group `users'---all the users in the system, most likely---have write access to this file. To get the correct group, he has to manually change it, which leaves lots of room for errors and race conditions. Consider by contrast the BSD model. John creates `/home/jjproj/foo', and it automatically belongs to the same group as is able to write to the `/home/jjproj' directory in the first place, which is exactly the right thing. Rather than introduce warts to selectively enable this behavior depending on some random selection of circumstances, BSD simply applies this model consistently throughout the filesystem, even in places where it is not obviously useful. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 08:03:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA09978 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09967 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp3.UU.NET [192.48.96.34]) id QQaxmi29426; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tricotek.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:02:01 -0400 Received: from tricotek. by (SMI-8.6/Trico-HEH-05-Mar) id KAA11635; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:28:17 -0400 Received: by tricotek. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA11632; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:28:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:28:17 -0400 From: tricotek!henry@uunet.uu.net (Henry Hojnacki) Message-Id: <199607081428.KAA11632@tricotek.> To: uunet!FreeBSD.org!questions@uunet.uu.net Subject: Installation Problems (2.0.5 + 2.1) Cc: tricotek!henry@uunet.uu.net X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Having used the 2.0 version for several months now, I decided to upgrade to the 2.0.5 version. During the installation procedure, I experience a lock up in the menu screen. Here is my hardware setup, followed by a detailed description of the problem: 100 MHz Pentium Intel TRITON chip set M/B On board IDE controller (No IDE Hard Drive, floppy only) NCR53C810 SCSI HBA 1GB SCSI Hard Drive 32MB memory Diamiond Stealth 65 Video 17" Monitor SoundBlaster16 Firstly, I have successfully intalled 2.0, and am currently using this with X11R6 from XFree86. No major problems here. I created the boot floppy for 2.0.5 from the Walnut Creek CDROM. When I attempt to boot from it, it goes thru the normal boot procedure, but when the install menu should come up, nothing happens. I have toggled to the debug screen via Alt-F2, and see no surprinsing messages. When I toggle back via Alt-F1, the install menu miracuously appears, however it does not respond to any key strokes. If I toggle to the debug screen and back again, the screen appears updated. I borrowed a 2.1 release CD from a friend, and wrote a new boot floppy. Same problem happens. I have swapped out cards one by one and in all combinations. The only time I was able to get a normally responding install menu is if I removed the NCR SCSI card. The install menu worked just fine. Of course, not having a SCSI card means no hard drive in my case, so the install procedure is somewhat moot. I then tried an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card. Things got worse. The install menu never appeared at all! Even after toggling to the debug screen and back did nothing. It appears that the boot procedure did complete successfully. I have verified the integrity of the boot floppy by trying it on another machine. The major difference of this machine was that an IDE drive was present, and no SCSI devices were attached. Can this be some factor caused by the on board IDE controller? Has anyone seen this before? Will I ever be able to upgrade from 2.0? Any advice suggestion, help etc would be much appreciated. Thank You in Advance, |-|-| Henry Hojnacki Trico Technology Center 24467 West Ten Mile Rd Southfield MI 48034 810 354 5010 ext 317(voice) 810 354 5019 (fax) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 08:04:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA10107 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09954 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udHoW-000QfTC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:01 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA10096; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:55:53 +0200 Message-Id: <199607081455.QAA10096@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: IPX & TLI To: jonny@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:55:53 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199607060242.XAA18547@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Jul 5, 96 11:42:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joao Carlos Mendes Luis writes: > > #define quoting(Thierry Boudet) > // Hello everybody > // > // I am currently working on a networking project > // between UnixWare and MS-DOS over the Novell IPX protocol. > // I'd like to port the Unix-side on FreeBSD. I have based > // my work on the sysV "TLI" interface with IPX. Is it possible > // to use IPX in FreeBSD with TLI ? > > No. There's no implementation of STREAMS and, consequently, TLI over > FreeBSD (yet :) ). I don't think that STREAMS is a prerequisite for TLI. I thought the reason TLI hadn't been implemented is because it's such a pain, and BSD has sockets. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 08:15:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA11011 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from widomaker.com (root@wilma.widomaker.com [204.17.220.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11004 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by widomaker.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udI2J-0000noC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 11:15 EDT Message-Id: From: tdl@widomaker.com (Troy) Subject: Sound board question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:15:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, OK, I know very little about sounds boards, looking at the FAQ and the prices of the boards I have narrowed it down to either a Gravis Ultrasound -or- a SoundBlaster 32. The Gravis has more 'voices' but I've heard that a sound board should follow the 'Creative Labs Specification', whatever that is. I have no idea what all those specifications for a sound board mean. I plan to use this for, not only FreeBSD (Web, SCSI CD audio, MIDI, etc..) but for, games and educational software under DOS & Widows 3.1/'95 could someone give me an idea which way I should go on this? and why? Thanks, -Troy- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 08:18:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA11277 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11258 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10925; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:18:35 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199607081518.MAA10925@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: IPX & TLI To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:18:35 -0300 (EST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607081455.QAA10096@allegro.lemis.de> from Greg Lehey at "Jul 8, 96 04:55:53 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Greg Lehey) // > // I am currently working on a networking project // > // between UnixWare and MS-DOS over the Novell IPX protocol. // > // I'd like to port the Unix-side on FreeBSD. I have based // > // my work on the sysV "TLI" interface with IPX. Is it possible // > // to use IPX in FreeBSD with TLI ? // > // > No. There's no implementation of STREAMS and, consequently, TLI over // > FreeBSD (yet :) ). // // I don't think that STREAMS is a prerequisite for TLI. I thought the // reason TLI hadn't been implemented is because it's such a pain, and // BSD has sockets. True. TLI can be implemented with emulation over sockets, but I don't know if all functionality will be available and the most important (Protocol Independence) probably will not. The only system I knew that had TLI without a *full* STREAMS kernel is SunOS 4.1. But SunOS already had a STREAMS capable kernel, although it was not used for TCP/IP networking core. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 08:44:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA12897 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12891 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA04296; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:44:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:44:26 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607081544.AA04296@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Leon Curtis Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Handling time after 1999 In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > I have been asked to look into what other unix kernel groups are planning > to do to address problems with time when the year 2000 arrives. We don't anticipate any problems with time when the year 2000 arrives, since there is no installed base of COBOL programs on FreeBSD. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:03:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA14693 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14681 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udIlb-000QfgC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 18:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA10192; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:24:37 +0200 Message-Id: <199607081524.RAA10192@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Optical Jukebox support in FreeBSD To: ejs@bfd.com (Eric J. Schwertfeger) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:24:37 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: from "Eric J. Schwertfeger" at Jul 7, 96 10:15:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eric J. Schwertfeger writes: > > How capable is FreeBSD of supporting 2 terrabytes worth of CD jukeboxes? No more than any other operating system, I would think. > I can't see buying several million in hard drives, but a CD jukebox may be > affordable, and this information shouldn't be updated too often. > > O.K., I admit that even if it does work, the numbers will be so staggering > that my boss will turn all sorts of colors, and the project will get > killed or redesigned, but I at least want to have the numbers available. OK, let's look at the numbers first. Assuming you have every CD-ROM full to the gunwhales with data (666 MB), you'll need 15,000 CD-ROMs. The biggest junk box I know holds 7 CD-ROMs, so you'd need a good 2000 drives. At 7 drives per host adaptor, you'd need the best part of 300 host adaptors (why does this remind me of St Ive's?) There's no way you can address that number of SCSI devices on a PC. Of course, if you can find a *real* juke box, like an overgrown version of the real juke boxes they had in the 50's, and you can put 1000 disks in one device, you should be able to do it with two host adaptors. But I don't know of any such device. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:08:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15041 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uplherc.upl.com (uplherc.pacificorp.com [131.219.5.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15036 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panther (panther.pacificorp.com) by uplherc.upl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19528; Mon, 8 Jul 96 10:08:49 MDT Received: by panther; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Jun95-0854AM) id AA31106; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:06:08 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:06:08 -0600 From: "Douglas C. Garrick" Message-Id: <9607081606.AA31106@panther> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: UltraStore U24f and booting Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi and thanks in advance for taking a look at this problem. I have been using FreeBSD on several machines since late last year and I have just recently setup a machine for use as an web server. The web server has been running at my house for about 6 weeks (until last week) around the clock. When the "West Coast Power Failure" struck last week it spiked my home bad and took out the web server. Well now most of the machine came back (kinda) but I lost the the IDE. Now I cannot boot from my a Seagate 44766N drive hung off an UltraStore U24f controller. Here is the before and after configurations. Before power hit: "Generic Intel 80486 EISA system unit /w 32 Mbytes ram, Generic IDE / multi I/O board /w 1 5.25 floppy, 1 3.5 floppy and 1 Maxtor 324 mbyte ide drive, Ultrastore U24f controller w 2 Seagate 44766N drives, and 1 Plextor CDrom drive. The IDE Maxtor contained the /, /var, and a 100mbyte swap files system, and the 2 Seagate scsi drives contained the /usr and /usr2 file systems. After the system took the hit it would fail as soon the Ultrastore bios would look at the cmos table for a drive configuration. It would fail with an ' HDD controller failure', If I disable the "C" drive configuration in the cmos setup the system would start without error except now there is no boot file system. So I added another Seagate scsi drive to use as boot device and reinstalled FreeBSD. After power hit: Generic Intel 80486 EISA system unit /w 32 Mbytes ram Generic IDE Controller / multi I/O board with just floppies. Ultrastore U24f /w 3 Seagate 44766N scsi drives, and 1 Plextor CDrom drive. The reinstall goes fine bit the system hangs at boot time. Just freezes up tight. I sort of suspect an interupt conflict but I don't know what to do about it. What gets me is that under the first install those Seagate drives configured fine and ran perfectly. I figured that if the controller and drives would host any file system that it would host a boot file system as well. Am I wrong or just a little inexperienced. **************************************************************** * * * Douglas C. Garrick * * Systems Administrator * * Bridger Coal Company * * P.O. Box 2068 * * 9.5 miles n.e. of Point of Rocks Wyoming * * Rock Springs, Wyoming 82901-2068 * * * * voice (307).382.9742 fax (307).362.5330 * * email dcg@panther.upl.com * * * **************************************************************** Thanks again. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:11:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15189 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15179 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA05758 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:10:20 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0udItA-00021OC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 18:10 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA066302128; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:08:48 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199607081608.AA066302128@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Handling time after 1999 To: lcurtis@intecom.com (Leon Curtis) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:08:47 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Leon Curtis" at Jul 8, 96 09:08:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Leon Curtis wrote: > I have been asked to look into what other unix kernel groups are planning > to do to address problems with time when the year 2000 arrives. Most probably nothing. AT&T based unices will have their D-day in 2038, sometime in January (when 32-bit time_t goes negative.) AFAIK, everyone who produced apps for unix internally encoded time as time_t (as it was easier.) Naturally, there will have been some poor souls who programmed in COBOL and used pic(99) for year, but then they deserved it. > > I would appreciate any pointers that would enable me to get "plugged in" > to any dialog / specifications relating to this issue. man time(2) gmtime(3) gettimeofday(2ucb) > > I work for a company that owns a version of (real time) unix put out > by LynxOS (Los Gatos, California). Our PBX product runs this OS and will > be the benefactor of the time changes. Are you sure your PBX product has been coded so that it's vulnerable? > > Thanks! /Marino From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:13:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15321 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15314 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk (hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk [147.143.102.8]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA04469 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:13:27 -0700 From: Mr D Whitehead Message-Id: <18131.9607081611@hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk> Received: from adam.sees (adam.sees.bangor.ac.uk) by hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:11:57 BST Subject: mountd a question and a suggestion To: questions@Freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:11:56 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've just been configuring and testing a new machine and I've had some time consuming problems with mountd and the exports file. Firstly let me state this _is_not_a_complaint_ they are both working as documented. The problems were caused by our fairly complex export restrictions which are based on a set of (Sun based) NIS netgroups. Over time two invalid host name entries had been acquired (one typeo and one failure to remove an obsolete host name) this caused our Suns no problems, presumably the duff host names were silently ignored. The situation with the FreeBSD machine was completely different, it seems that any line in the exports file that has any kind of problem prevents mountd from exporting the intended filesystem. The problems were logged, /var/log/messages had a message stating that xxxxx was a bad line and another message stating that gethostbyname had failed. Under the circumstances while better than nothing neither message was particularly helpfull. It would have been much better if I had been told which host gethostbyname was having trouble with. Question: I was using 2.1.0-R has the code been changed/improved in later versions. Suggestion(s): 1) The gethostbyname error message should indicate what was being looked up. 2) If a gethostbyname failure occures the code should ignore this particular host (while complaining in a very loud voice) and continue to process the list so that the other hosts will have the filesystem available. I'm makeing this suggestion because even well administered sites suffer from bad typing from time to time and the loss of service that this could cause the next time the machine is rebooted could be very big. If the particular case outlined above had occured on an in service machine a large group of users would have lost access to their home directories for the 6 working hours it took me to fully revalidate the netgroup file. -- Dave Whitehead ------------------------------------------------------------------------ EMAIL:- | TELEPHONE (work):- (work) davew@sees.bangor.ac.uk | +44 1248 382703 (Direct line) (home) 100023.1076@compuserve.com | +44 1248 351151 ext 2703 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SNAIL MAIL:- Dave Whitehead School of Electronic Engineering & Computer Systems, University College of North Wales, Dean Street, Bangor LL57 1UT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:13:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15334 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15319 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA23712; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:10:32 -0500 Message-Id: <9607081610.AA23712@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:10:32 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: YP/NIS and AMD Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to get both AMD and YP/NIS set up on a FreeBSD 2.1-stable machine can log in with their user IDs and passwords, from a Sun SparcStation 20 (Solaris 2.5). I also want their home directories (using auto mounted homes) on the Sun to be automounted. The Sun is running NIS+ in NIS compatibility mode. So far, I've been somewhat successful, but I'm getting some error messages at bootup: clnttcp_create: RPC: program not registered. This message repeats 10/20 times during bootup. I could not use the standard /etc/sysconfig to start AMD and NIS; the above messages would just scroll by endlessly. I also had to start amd before NIS. Starting AMD before NIS in rc.local works. Users can log in with their user IDs and passwords on the Sun, and get their home directories auto mounted. The error messages are annoying, though, and it makes me think I missing something. BTW, is there any way to override the shell from the Sun password map? Users usually have it set to /bin/ksh, so as a hack I've loaded pdksh and made a link in /bin/ksh to /usr/local/bin/ksh. I've searched the archives for possible answers, but no luck. This is the first time I've tried using AMD and NIS, so if someone could point out what I'm doing wrong, I'd appreciate it. I've also been through the man pages and the 4.4BSD SMM. Thanks, Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org Excerpts from /etc/sysconfig ---------------------------- # Set to the name of your host - this is pretty important! hostname="clc_rtr.clc.gdeb.com" # Set to the NIS domainname of your host, or NO if none defaultdomainname="clc.gdeb.com" # Set to appropriate flags if you want to use AMD amdflags=NO # Set to appropriate flags if you want to start NIS for a client #nis_clientflags="-s -S clc.gdeb.com,vfr" nis_clientflags="NO" Excerpts from /etc/rc.local --------------------------- amd /homes /var/amd/home_maps sleep 3 ypbind -s -S clc.gdeb.com,vfr /var/amd/home_maps ----------------------------- # *** NOTE: Only for use on /homes # *** This file was automatically generated -- DO NOT EDIT HERE *** # "fsinfo" run by deischen@fbsd.caen.gdeb.com on Mon Jul 1 12:43:38 1996 # /defaults type:=nfs eghk rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=eghk ebst rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=ebst ebhy rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=ebhy ebjt rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=ebjt egap rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=egap ebsg rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=ebsg egi1 rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=egi1 backup rhost=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=backup ebib rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=ebib eaxk rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=eaxk egzg rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=egzg eahw rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=eahw egza rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=egza egy9 rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=egy9 Last line of /etc/master.passwd -------------------------------- +::::::::: Last line of /etc/passwd -------------------------------- +:*:0:0::: From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:17:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15565 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15558 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA03152; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:16:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:16:45 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607081616.AA03152@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Youngil Choi Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: de0 problem In-Reply-To: <199607061826.DAA07762@ran.kaist.ac.kr> References: <199607061826.DAA07762@ran.kaist.ac.kr> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > when I used under 2.2-960501-SNAP, there were no problems in de0. > But, after i changed kernel to 2.2-960612-SNAP. something happens. > kernel says "de0: receiver: CRC error" Yes. These were almost certainly happening to you before, but the 960501 driver did not report them. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:26:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15978 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15970 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA16471; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:25:51 -0300 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:25:51 -0300 Message-Id: <199607081625.NAA16471@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Re: Deleting a tree Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica writes: >> >> Hi: >> >> There's a way to delete a directory tree, > >Yes. rm -rf tree > Sorry!: without having to delete all the archives inside it ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> Maybe a script file? > >Possibly. But first I need to understand what you really want to do. >Can you give an example, please? > >Greg Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:27:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16007 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16002 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09911; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:26:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" X-Sender: ejs@harlie To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Optical Jukebox support in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199607081524.RAA10192@allegro.lemis.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Greg Lehey wrote: > Of course, if you can find a *real* juke box, like an overgrown > version of the real juke boxes they had in the 50's, and you can put > 1000 disks in one device, you should be able to do it with two host > adaptors. But I don't know of any such device. Seen 'em at Comdex, was hoping someone knew of one that FreeBSD had drivers for. O.K., so I'm dreaming :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:30:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16194 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecstasy.ksu.ru (root@ecstasy.ksu.ru [193.232.252.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16178 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:30:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Pass-Through: Kazan State University network Received: from sci-65c.sci.kcn.ru (root@bravo [193.232.252.34]) by ecstasy.ksu.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA22762 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:36:02 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <31E12973.51F0@sci.kcn.ru> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:29:55 +0400 From: Igor Ivoylov Organization: Kazan Institute of Biology X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HELP From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:44:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17075 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17069 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udJPR-000Qg8C; Mon, 8 Jul 96 18:43 MET DST Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:37:37 +0200 From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (root@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA10405 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:37:37 +0200 Message-Id: <199607081637.SAA10405@allegro.lemis.de> To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica writes: > >> Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica writes: >>> >>> Hi: >>> >>> There's a way to delete a directory tree, >> >> Yes. rm -rf tree >> > > Sorry!: > > without having to delete all the archives inside it ? > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You don't understand. In UNIX (and in DOS, for that matter), a directory is a way to find files (which may be archives). If you delete the directory tree, you no longer have access to the files (or archives). If you were to delete the tree without deleting the archives, you would not be able to access the files, but you would also not be able to use the disk space. For this reason, all operating system developers (and the people at Microsoft) consider this a Bad Thing. In fact, there are ways to do exactly this with UNIX, but I don't want to further confuse you with them at this stage, because I think I'm completely misunderstanding what you want to do. So, at the risk of repeating myself: >> Possibly. But first I need to understand what you really want to do. >> Can you give an example, please? A couple of possibilities spring to mind: 1. You want to delete only empty directories. 2. You want to delete subdirectories, but not the files in the main directory. Whichever it is, you haven't made your request clear. Do you make a distinction between archives and files? Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:45:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17154 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17149 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udJPR-000QgAC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 18:43 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA10386; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:35:15 +0200 Message-Id: <199607081635.SAA10386@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Optical Jukebox support in FreeBSD To: ejs@bfd.com (Eric J. Schwertfeger) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:35:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: from "Eric J. Schwertfeger" at Jul 8, 96 09:26:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eric J. Schwertfeger writes: > > On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Of course, if you can find a *real* juke box, like an overgrown >> version of the real juke boxes they had in the 50's, and you can put >> 1000 disks in one device, you should be able to do it with two host >> adaptors. But I don't know of any such device. > > Seen 'em at Comdex, was hoping someone knew of one that FreeBSD had > drivers for. O.K., so I'm dreaming :-) Tell me about them. I'd be interested. And if you can connect them via SCSI, there's a good chance that we can support them, though I suppose they'd have to do something different for selecting the CD-ROM. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 09:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17484 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17478 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA14822; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:52:08 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00769; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:53:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:53:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Chuck Robey cc: Tim Vanderhoek , Derek Law , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i have a question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > Just to make that a little clearer, it's fine to read the dos partition, > but the risky part comes in WRITING TO the dos partition. I've never > seen the least problem reading the data. Probably safest to do the mount > as a read only mount. On my 2.2-960501-SNAP system here, just listing some of the files on my DOS slice will cause all my FreeBSD partitions to become ruined well beyond my ability to repair. Maybe a bug in the -SNAP code I didn't hear about. Floppies, of course, mount finely. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 10:08:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA18733 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halon.barra.COM (halon.barra.com [144.203.11.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18725 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:08:26 -0700 (PDT) From: William.Ying@ccgate.Barra.COM Received: from lazarus.barra.COM (root@[144.203.13.57]) by halon.barra.COM (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA28080; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:10:49 -0700 Received: from ccgate.barra.com (ccgate.barra.com [144.203.4.245]) by lazarus.barra.COM (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id KAA21836; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:08:10 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by ccgate.barra.com id AA836845885; Mon, 08 Jul 96 09:50:07 PST Date: Mon, 08 Jul 96 09:50:07 PST Message-Id: <9606088368.AA836845885@ccgate.barra.com> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, Damir Cifer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The FDISK comes with FreeBSD 2.1R seems can only create primary partion, as far as I know. I could not find a way to install FreeBSD in a logical partion. However, having two primary partions on same hard disk is not a problem since you can not boot both operating systems at the same time. I think the best way to handle multipul operating systems is the OS/2 boot manager, if you happen to have it installed. - Bill - ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition Author: Damir Cifer at UNIXGATE Date: 7/8/96 4:30 AM On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > > What I wonder is if it will be possible to install FreeBSD into a part of > > the extended partition (logical partition) in the 2.2.0 release? Is it > > perhaps already possible in the current snaps? > No, FreeBSD requires it's own slice. Seems I have to rephrase :) (bad formulation :)) Is it possible to install FreeBSD (if not, when will it be) into a logical extended partition. Like in Linux you can install for example into /dev/hdc8 (6. logical partition on the 3rd drive)? Cya From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 10:34:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21712 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21603 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id SAA24866; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:34:10 +0100 (BST) To: Wayne Farmer cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.4 Final Release In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 15:56:07 +1000." <31E0A2F7.41C67EA6@telstra.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:34:10 +0100 Message-ID: <24864.836847250@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wayne Farmer wrote in message ID <31E0A2F7.41C67EA6@telstra.net>: > Will the 4.9.4 final release of BIND appear in 2.1.5 ? Nope. it's not ready for the big time yet as it has stict hostname checking in it and it'll break a lot of places. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 10:39:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24703 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24692 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id SAA24880; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:38:12 +0100 (BST) To: Zach Heilig cc: Jaye Mathisen , David Greenman , Network Coordinator , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-reply-to: Your message of "08 Jul 1996 03:00:14 CDT." <87hgrjdvjl.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:38:12 +0100 Message-ID: <24878.836847492@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Zach Heilig wrote in message ID <87hgrjdvjl.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com>: > I noticed the same thing when I upgraded from the iijppp that came > with 2.1.0-RELEASE to the -stable version (the -RELEASE version had a > habit of hanging up during long transfers, the -stable one doesn't > seem to). Ftp rates dropped from a solid 1.4K-1.5K/sec (14.4K modem) > to about .57K/sec (from the machine directly on the other side of the > link, i.e. remote -> phone -> local). My rates are back up to > 1.5K/sec mostly (1.3K/sec if I'm doing interactive stuff over the > link, which is actually usable while ftp'ing now), after making a > slight tweak to the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file. I added the following > lines, I don't know which one is responsible: > set debug none > disable pred1 > deny pred1 > disable lqr > deny lqr Weird. I've been running iijppp for over a year now, and have been upgrading regularly, and on a 28k8 I can get 5k/sec (text) download relatively easily (with the latest version in -stable). I wonder if this has to do with the box you are talking to? Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 10:44:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24985 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24979 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id SAA24894; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:44:36 +0100 (BST) To: Chris Lavin cc: questions From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: HELP With apache and Mod_auth_dbm In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 09:05:26 EDT." <199607081307.JAA04215@only.justcompute.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:44:36 +0100 Message-ID: <24892.836847876@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Lavin wrote in message ID <199607081307.JAA04215@only.justcompute.com>: > I am trying to compile apache with Mod_auth_dbm and whenever I do I > get the error message "ld: -lndbm; no Match". So if I xcomment that I out > I get an error from cc that says "mod_auth_dbm.o: undefinded symbol > '_crypt' referenced from text segment" > Can anyone help or am I beyond help?!?!?1? Don't have `-lndbm' (dbm is part of our libc), and add `-lcrypt' instead. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 10:47:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25070 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25065 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ah12093; 8 Jul 96 17:44 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa25731; 8 Jul 96 18:24 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA01173; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:52:18 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:52:18 GMT Message-Id: <199607081252.MAA01173@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: khetan@iafrica.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Khetan Gajjar on Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:41:40 +0200 (SAT)) Subject: Re: after 2.1.5 releases Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just a quick, simple query. After 2.1.5 stable is released, there are to > be no further updates to the stable tree. It will in effect cease to > exist. Does that mean I can go ahead and smoke the cvs tree off my > machine? Or will I still need it for any updates that do come along ? If you're planning to follow -current and future versions of FreeBSD then I would recommend hanging on to it :-) > Basically, is there going to be a tree specifically/seperate to the > current tree as it exists now ? There is no separate tree for -current and -stable - they are different branches of the same tree. The whole problem has been that CVS is not very good at coordinating this kind of "branched" development and has basically been a tremendous pain in the tonsils, which is why -stable is going away. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 10:52:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25351 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts8-180.indigo.ie [194.125.133.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25323 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA15870 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:46:12 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:44:45 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@NetworX.ie Subject: Sanyo 6x CD-ROM drive: how to config To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I've a Tottori Sanyo AT-API 6x CD drive on my FreeBSD 2.1 Pentium machine. It's on a secondary IDE controller. The controller is recognised during boot-up but the CD drive isn't. The /dev/wcd0c device file says "Device not configured" when I try to mount it. The bootup messages relating to WD devices are: ---------------------------------------------- wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1033MB (2116800 sectors), 2100 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa The relevant kern config file sections read: ------------------------------------------- controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 Any ideas? Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 10:55:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25572 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25558; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA17328; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:54:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:54:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen To: Gary Palmer cc: Zach Heilig , David Greenman , Network Coordinator , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-Reply-To: <24878.836847492@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, but measuring throughput on a text file with modem compression vs measuring throughput on a binary with little compression isn't really a valid comparison either. On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Zach Heilig wrote in message ID > <87hgrjdvjl.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com>: > > I noticed the same thing when I upgraded from the iijppp that came > > with 2.1.0-RELEASE to the -stable version (the -RELEASE version had a > > habit of hanging up during long transfers, the -stable one doesn't > > seem to). Ftp rates dropped from a solid 1.4K-1.5K/sec (14.4K modem) > > to about .57K/sec (from the machine directly on the other side of the > > link, i.e. remote -> phone -> local). My rates are back up to > > 1.5K/sec mostly (1.3K/sec if I'm doing interactive stuff over the > > link, which is actually usable while ftp'ing now), after making a > > slight tweak to the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file. I added the following > > lines, I don't know which one is responsible: > > > set debug none > > disable pred1 > > deny pred1 > > disable lqr > > deny lqr > > Weird. I've been running iijppp for over a year now, and have been > upgrading regularly, and on a 28k8 I can get 5k/sec (text) download > relatively easily (with the latest version in -stable). I wonder if > this has to do with the box you are talking to? > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 10:59:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25791 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25785 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id af14897; 8 Jul 96 17:58 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa25802; 8 Jul 96 18:25 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01188; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:06:26 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:06:26 GMT Message-Id: <199607081306.NAA01188@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: ran@styx.aic.net, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Mon, 8 Jul 1996 00:06:29 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: olwm Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I have the following problem: > > olwm will not run normal. > > When I run X in 8bit/pixel mode, everything is OK, > > but when I start X as bpp 16 olwm will switch to monochrom mode. > > olwm doesn't support 16 bit mode then. There are several apps that don't > like 16 bit mode (vic, for instance); it's not uncommon. I don't think this has anything to do with olwm. I have a S3 86C716 SDAC, for which the driver is allegedly capable of 24-bit colour, but I can only get 8-bit mode, regardless of which window manager I use. I seem to remember reading something about this being corrected in the latest XFree drivers - can anyone else confirm this? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:02:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25978 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25973; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13868; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:02:33 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:02:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607081802.MAA13868@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Gary Palmer" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-Reply-To: <24878.836847492@palmer.demon.co.uk> References: <87hgrjdvjl.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> <24878.836847492@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer writes: > > I noticed the same thing when I upgraded from the iijppp that came > > with 2.1.0-RELEASE to the -stable version (the -RELEASE version had a > > habit of hanging up during long transfers, the -stable one doesn't > > seem to). Ftp rates dropped... > > Weird. I've been running iijppp for over a year now, and have been > upgrading regularly, and on a 28k8 I can get 5k/sec (text) download > relatively easily (with the latest version in -stable). I wonder if > this has to do with the box you are talking to? That seems *really* slow. I'm getting 3.6K/sec on compressed files, and 11K-14K/sec on text files with my 28.8K SLIP connection with modem HW compression turned on. I get a consistant 3.4K/sec using kernel-PPP w/our Internet connection with all kinds of files, and often get much higher throughput with compressable files as well, though it's hard to measure it directly given the status of the Internet as of late. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:03:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25998 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windsurf.ops.aol.com (windsurf.ops.aol.com [152.163.61.79]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25993 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [152.163.66.47] by windsurf.ops.aol.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA16365; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:02:36 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960708180443.00664de4@mailhost.infi.net> X-Sender: ron@mailhost.infi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:04:43 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ron Steele Subject: Re: Optical Jukebox support in FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 05:24 PM 7/8/96 +0200, you wrote: >Eric J. Schwertfeger writes: >> >> How capable is FreeBSD of supporting 2 terrabytes worth of CD jukeboxes? > >No more than any other operating system, I would think. > >> I can't see buying several million in hard drives, but a CD jukebox may be >> affordable, and this information shouldn't be updated too often. >> >> O.K., I admit that even if it does work, the numbers will be so staggering >> that my boss will turn all sorts of colors, and the project will get >> killed or redesigned, but I at least want to have the numbers available. > >OK, let's look at the numbers first. Assuming you have every CD-ROM >full to the gunwhales with data (666 MB), you'll need 15,000 CD-ROMs. >The biggest junk box I know holds 7 CD-ROMs, so you'd need a good 2000 >drives. At 7 drives per host adaptor, you'd need the best part of 300 >host adaptors (why does this remind me of St Ive's?) There's no way >you can address that number of SCSI devices on a PC. > >Of course, if you can find a *real* juke box, like an overgrown >version of the real juke boxes they had in the 50's, and you can put >1000 disks in one device, you should be able to do it with two host >adaptors. But I don't know of any such device. > >Greg > > I think the question does not refer to CD-ROMs. Optical jukes are available with platters of at least 5GB each that I know of, and likely bigger. Even the 5 1/4" HP disks hold something like 1.3GB each. For the most part, once the disk is in place, these look like a normal SCSI drive, although some are worm. It is a question of controling the robot arm and getting the drive spun up. Ron From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:12:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26596 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26553 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id TAA25016; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:11:31 +0100 (BST) To: Jaye Mathisen cc: Zach Heilig , Network Coordinator , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 10:54:47 PDT." Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:11:30 +0100 Message-ID: <25014.836849490@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jaye Mathisen wrote in message ID : > Yeah, but measuring throughput on a text file with modem compression vs > measuring throughput on a binary with little compression isn't really a > valid comparison either. >From my ISP's ftp server (3 hops from me), downloading distfiles/ImageMagick-3.6.2.tar.gz from their FreeBSD mirror, I got the 595417 byte file in 186.45 seconds, making 3.12kilobytes/second (all figures provided by ncftp). (USR Sportster 28k8 voice modem, iijppp, predictor 1 compression enabled, although from `show proto' output it may be using VJ compression instead) My POINT was that I have not noticed a slowdown, as if binary transfer rates have dropped off for some reason, then (I would have thought) text rates would have too... I just didn't have any binary rates to hand at the time as I tend to throw text around a lot more than binary. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:15:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26881 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from internet.spss.com ([192.35.251.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26871 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmailgw.spss.com (msmailgw.spss.com [192.67.95.6]) by internet.spss.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA07495; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:16:55 GMT Received: by msmailgw.spss.com with Microsoft Mail id <31E15092@msmailgw.spss.com>; Mon, 08 Jul 96 13:16:50 cdt From: "McKinley, Rob" To: Tim Vanderhoek Cc: questions Subject: RE: i have a question Date: Mon, 08 Jul 96 13:16:00 cdt Message-ID: <31E15092@msmailgw.spss.com> Encoding: 36 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- From: Tim Vanderhoek[SMTP:hoek@freenet.hamilton.on.ca] Sent: Monday, July 08, 1996 12:53 PM To: Chuck Robey Cc: Tim Vanderhoek; Derek Law; questions Subject: Re: i have a question On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > Just to make that a little clearer, it's fine to read the dos partition, > but the risky part comes in WRITING TO the dos partition. I've never > seen the least problem reading the data. Probably safest to do the mount > as a read only mount. On my 2.2-960501-SNAP system here, just listing some of the files on my DOS slice will cause all my FreeBSD partitions to become ruined well beyond my ability to repair. Maybe a bug in the -SNAP code I didn't hear about. Ditto for me as well with the June 2.2 snap. MTBF was a little under an hour :-( Floppies, of course, mount finely. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk Rob From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:16:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26927 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-09.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26905 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA10863; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:16:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199607081816.OAA10863@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: "Daniel M. Eischen" cc: freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: YP/NIS and AMD In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 11:10:32 CDT." <9607081610.AA23712@iworks.InterWorks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:16:02 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- "Daniel M. Eischen" uttered with conviction: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to get both AMD and YP/NIS set up on a Fre eBSD > 2.1-stable machine can log in with their user IDs and passwords, > from a Sun SparcStation 20 (Solaris 2.5). I also want their hom e > directories (using auto mounted homes) on the Sun to be automount > ed. The Sun is running NIS+ in NIS compatibility mode. i have done this... lets look at things one at a time. > Excerpts from /etc/sysconfig ---------------------------- # Set to > the name of your host - this is pretty impor tant! > hostname="clc_rtr.clc.gdeb.com" > > # Set to the NIS domainname of your host, or NO if no ne > defaultdomainname="clc.gdeb.com" > > # Set to appropriate flags if you want to use AMD amdflags=NO Here you should be able to start amd. I use flags like this: amdflags="-r -n -y ferguson -l syslog /ump amd.ump" where -y sets your domain -l sets the type of logging and most importantly... amd.ump sets the file. DO NOT put a leading / on that filename and amd will use the yp version of the map. > #nis_clientflags="-s -S clc.gdeb.com,vfr" > nis_clientflags="NO" You should be able to start yp here. If you are having to comment it out ... that is a YP issue that I have not run into... I tend to use -ypsetme so that I am hard bound to a specific server. I do that because generally the NFS server is the YP server and if they loose the primary YP server, they have lost either home or /usr/local/ in any case. > /defaults type:=nfs eghk rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=eghk ebst > rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=ebst ebhy > rhost:=vfr;rfs:=/export/home;sublink:=ebhy ebj Interesting map.. I do somthing a bit more falmboyant but this reads a bit easier. I also use somthing called /ump which is Universal Mount Point which was introduced at NASA Langely. (http://ice-www.larc.nasa.gov/LCUC/papers/ump.ps) defaults opts:=rw,soft,time0=10,retrans=5 # Defaults for HQ Home Directories hq type:=auto;fs:=${map};pref:=${key}/ # Home Directories for HQ hq/home type:=auto;fs:=${map};pref:=${key}/ # Defaults for garion # Terry Chapman hq/home/terry \ host==garion;type:=link;fs=/home/terry || \ host!=garion;type:=nfs;rhost:=garion;rfs:=/home/terry;fs:=${autodir}/${key} # Branson Matheson hq/home/branson \ host==garion;type:=link;fs=/home/branson || \ host!=garion;type:=nfs;rhost:=garion;rfs:=/home/branson;fs:=${autodir}/${key} # /usr/local hq/local \ arch==hp9000s800;type:=nfs;rhost:=polgara;rfs:=/usr/local;fs:=${autodir}/${key} || \ arch==i386;type:=nfs;rhost:=garion;rfs:=/usr/local;fs:=${autodir}/${key} I have some scripts that can convert this to a ypmap if you are interested and also allow you to keep this in a hierarchial format and compile the final amd.ump. -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:21:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27316 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27311 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ap20572; 8 Jul 96 18:21 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa25763; 8 Jul 96 18:25 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA01150; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:32:58 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:32:58 GMT Message-Id: <199607081232.MAA01150@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: k4ef0098@kiss.uni-lj.si CC: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Damir Cifer on Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:39:49 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is it possible to install FreeBSD (if not, when will it be) into a > logical extended partition. Like in Linux you can install for example into > /dev/hdc8 (6. logical partition on the 3rd drive)? No, FreeBSD requires its own ``primary partition'' (to use the DOS terminology). I don't know of any work being done that would allow what you want, but you have the source... :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:29:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27746 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27741 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id TAA25139; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:29:15 +0100 (BST) To: Mr D Whitehead cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: mountd a question and a suggestion In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 17:11:56 BST." <18131.9607081611@hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:29:14 +0100 Message-ID: <25137.836850554@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mr D Whitehead wrote in message ID <18131.9607081611@hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk>: > Question: I was using 2.1.0-R has the code been changed/improved in > later versions. Not in this area. > Suggestion(s): > 1) The gethostbyname error message should indicate what was being > looked up. Yes > 2) If a gethostbyname failure occures the code should ignore this > particular host (while complaining in a very loud voice) and continue > to process the list so that the other hosts will have the filesystem > available. Yes. Patches welcome :-) Seriously, I had a quick look at this today, and to fix this I'd need to dedicate quite a time to this (which I don't have at the minute, with 2.1.5-RELEASE round the corner, and other stuff). So if anyone else wants to jump on and fix this, please feel free. Otherwise I'll try and remember to work on it on a rainy day sometime. (Yes, I've been bitten by this myself, and hate the default behaviour, but have never had the time yet to sit down and figure out the convolutions that mountd.c goes through enough to fix the warnings / errors) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:38:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28422 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baygate.bayarea.net (baygate.bayarea.net [204.71.212.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA28416 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcnab@localhost) by baygate.bayarea.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA25378; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:31:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:31:51 -0700 From: David McNab Message-Id: <199607081831.LAA25378@baygate.bayarea.net> To: tdl@widomaker.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (tdl@widomaker.com) Subject: Re: Sound board question Reply-to: David McNab Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Troy wrote: |OK, I know very little about sounds boards, looking at the FAQ and the |prices of the boards I have narrowed it down to either a Gravis Ultrasound |-or- a SoundBlaster 32. Here's an option you might want to consider. Buy a plain old SoundBlaster 16. It's cheap and compatible with /everything/, and unless you buy the lame "value" edition it has a daughterboard connector that allows you to attach a wave table card (like the very fine Roland SCD-15 -- I think that's the model number). This way, you end up paying a little more, but you get guaranteed SB-16 compatibility and the option to upgrade to wave table synthesis that's superior to the AWE/32. (At least according to the reports I've read on the net.) -- Dave McNab From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 11:38:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28435 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28414 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id TAA25200; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:36:27 +0100 (BST) To: James Raynard cc: k4ef0098@kiss.uni-lj.si, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 12:32:58 GMT." <199607081232.MAA01150@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:36:26 +0100 Message-ID: <25198.836850986@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote in message ID <199607081232.MAA01150@jraynard.demon.co.uk>: > No, FreeBSD requires its own ``primary partition'' (to use the DOS > terminology). I don't know of any work being done that would allow > what you want, but you have the source... :-) Even if it was possible, you have the interesting problem that I don't think our boot code will allow you to boot from a non-primary partition (infact I'm fairly certain it won't), and the boot sector is pretty full with the current code as it is. This sort of effort will have to wait for the fabled 3 stage boot process I think. (Of course, using fbsdboot is a cheat, and may work, if you hack it up a bit, but it has it's own problems). Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 12:28:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01917 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01911 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA24290; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:25:50 -0500 Message-Id: <9607081925.AA24290@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:25:50 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: branson@widomaker.com, freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: YP/NIS and AMD Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > # Set to appropriate flags if you want to use AMD amdflags=NO > > Here you should be able to start amd. I use flags like this: > > amdflags="-r -n -y ferguson -l syslog /ump amd.ump" > > where -y sets your domain -l sets the type of logging and most > importantly... amd.ump sets the file. DO NOT put a leading / on that > filename and amd will use the yp version of the map. ... > > #nis_clientflags="-s -S clc.gdeb.com,vfr" > > nis_clientflags="NO" > > You should be able to start yp here. If you are having to comment it > out ... that is a YP issue that I have not run into... I tend to > use -ypsetme so that I am hard bound to a specific server. I do that > because generally the NFS server is the YP server and if they loose > the primary YP server, they have lost either home or /usr/local/ in > any case. Yeah, I can't have YP start up before AMD. I'll keep looking into that. > Interesting map.. I do somthing a bit more falmboyant but this reads > a bit easier. I also use somthing called /ump which is Universal > Mount Point which was introduced at NASA Langely. > > (http://ice-www.larc.nasa.gov/LCUC/papers/ump.ps) I just grabged it and will take a look at it. > I have some scripts that can convert this to a ypmap if you are > interested and also allow you to keep this in a hierarchial format and > compile the final amd.ump. Thanks, I may take you up on that. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 12:30:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02017 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01972 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dougal@localhost) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.12/8.6.9 Secure) with SMTP id OAA15004 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:30:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:30:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Dougal Campbell To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Partition table gone. Fixable? Message-ID: X-people-who-like-custom-headers: dougal@iquest.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a drive whose partition table was damaged somehow. Is there any way to restore the partition table, and recover the filesystem data? Can this be done with disklabel? The man pages aren't clear as to whether the partition table is part of the "label", but it sort of implies such. Is the data salvagable, or am I just boned? -- Dougal Campbell | "No animals or aliens were harmed in the making Systems Coordinator | of this film." interQuest: Hsv, AL | dougal@iquest.com | -- Disclaimer in the credits for ID4 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 12:39:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02993 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02949 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA24321; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:36:30 -0500 Message-Id: <9607081936.AA24321@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:36:30 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: af@biomath.jussieu.fr, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: YP/NIS and AMD Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This seems like a configuration VERY similar to what I have here (and > it works nicely). On which machine do these messages appear ? The NIS client (the freebsd machin - clc_rtr). > Does the FBSD machine get bound ? what does "ypwhich" say ? It says: bash$ ypwhich vfr > Side note: do you really need NIS+ ? It's a real pain in a > non-all-Solaris-2.x network. I use the NIS server package for Solaris > 2.x (a.k.a NSKit) which is really much closer to the real thing... No, I suppose we don't but the other system adminstrator wants to use NIS+. It's already configured, up, and running on the SUN and it works fine with FreeBSD (other than the error messages). > > > > BTW, is there any way to override the shell from the Sun password > > map? Users usually have it set to /bin/ksh, so as a hack I've loaded > > pdksh and made a link in /bin/ksh to /usr/local/bin/ksh. > > > > Not any I know of... what would you like their shell to be on the FBSD > machine ? Anyway it would always be creating some kind of link from > /bin/ksh to whatever shell you like them to use... I wanted to be able to use bash on the FreeBSD machine. I'd be using it on the Sun, but I haven't gotten it to work correctly. It screws up when you try to wildcard files (like during an ls) and you lose the first character or two of each filename. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 14:33:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10055 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10047 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id WAA25748; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 22:32:14 +0100 (BST) To: Redgie Joy cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: HELP In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 15:41:43 PDT." <31E18EA7.14EA@ccsi.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 22:32:13 +0100 Message-ID: <25745.836861533@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [moved from freebsd-doc to freebsd-questions, the more appropriate forum for this sort of thing. complete message quoted to give context to those on questions but not on doc] Redgie Joy wrote in message ID <31E18EA7.14EA@ccsi.com>: > I am only emailing because of extreme problems. > When I boot up with the boot floppy the first time it gives me > ERROR C:0 H:0 S:0 > I have downloaded all the proper files with a binary connection and I > have used rawrite.exe after formating a several floppies 3 times!!! > I have tried it many times with a partition without formatted hard drive > unformatted and have tried turning the auto feature on my bios for the > hard drive off and manualy entering the numbers. > I have a: > Pentium 75 > 24mb EDO > Quantum Fireball 540 connected to intel TRITON primary controller > Number Nine s3 trio 64 chipset for video 2mb Vram > NEC ATAPI cdrom 4X > USR 14.4K V.42 Modem > Awe32 Sound Blaster > CHEAP ethernet card 10 mb per second standard settings > ALL MY HARDWARE IS CONFIGURED AT DEFAULT FOR INSTALLATION PURPOSES > CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME I AM IN DIRE NEED OF IT!!! Wild guess: you are using rawrite on a Win95 box? Don't. Win95's hardware protection scheme confuses rawrite, and rawrite silently fails, even though it looks like it's working. Maybe booting into DOS mode instead of Win95 will fix the problem, I'm not sure offhand (I haven't contaminated either of my PC's with Win95, and I don't plan to either). If you aren't running 95, perhaps you are running some other MS OS with similar results (NT?). The bottom line is: use rawrite from a plain DOS booted system, none of this flashy stuff MS likes to throw at you. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 14:35:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10178 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10166; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id RAA22586; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:35:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Gary Palmer cc: Wayne Farmer , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.4 Final Release In-Reply-To: <24864.836847250@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Wayne Farmer wrote in message ID > <31E0A2F7.41C67EA6@telstra.net>: > > Will the 4.9.4 final release of BIND appear in 2.1.5 ? > > Nope. it's not ready for the big time yet as it has stict hostname > checking in it and it'll break a lot of places. > better yet...force alot of places to fix themselves *grin* the RFC has always been there, 4.9.4 just forces you to follow it more closely... Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 14:42:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10899 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tippy2.vnet.net (tippy2.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10865 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cmadison@localhost) by tippy2.vnet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA01495; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:15:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Madison To: Mike Harpe cc: jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, root@babel.cais.com, questions@freebsd.org, babel@cais.com Subject: Re: Floppy tape program QIC-80 In-Reply-To: <199607081343.JAA20910@tower.louisville.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > SHould I remove the ft driver if I install lft? I tried lft with a Colorado > T1000 and still got the device timeout errors. I am running 2.1.0-RELEASE. I didn't have to.....But I think the issue is that you have a T1000 and I have a Jumbo 250, which IAW the man page lft was developed for/with/...: //... NOTES QIC format compatibility with CBWLite for Windows and harware compati- bilty with Colorado Jumbo 250 (using floppy interface) have been tested extensively. No other configurations have been investigated. //... If I remember correctly, a friend tried to run a T1000 on the ft driver and it didn't work. Since lft was " Developed using the ft device interaction from ft(8)..." maybe some of the hw incompatibility was inhereted? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 14:45:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11187 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.riga.lv (wolf.riga.lv [194.8.12.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11141 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stoat.riga.lv by wolf.riga.lv with SMTP id AA11003 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:32:14 +0300 Received: by stoat.riga.lv id AA03779 (5.65.kiae-1 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:37:10 +0300 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Organization: LvNet-Teleport From: "Fair pay" Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:37:10 +0300 X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.16 SunOS] Subject: Problems with 3th SCSI-2 HDD Lines: 34 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, there is a big problem (at least for me) with SCSI HDDs. There is a PC with Adaptec AIC-7850 on motherboard and FreeBSD 2.1.0. There are three HDDs attached to the SCSI-2 bus: ID ---------------------------- 0 Conner CFP1080S (SCSI terminated) 1 Quantum Lightning 540S (SCSI not terminated) 2 Conner CFP2105S (SCSI not terminated) 7 AIC-7850 (SCSI terminated) When FreeBSD 2.1 is booted (I booted by means of install.bat/inst_ide.bat under DOS), it detects ahc0, waits "SCSI deviced to settle", then shows list of disks' data, and then about 10-15 copies of the string "ahc0 WARNING no command for scb 0" and goes to reboot. When the HDD with ID 2 is detached from the bus (by removing cabling), FreeBSD boots ok. Besides this I tried to insert/remove terminators on the HDD, but the problem persists. The HDD with ID 2 was installed yesterday and there ar 3 partitions on it, first one is used by OS/2, on second one NT is installed. The HDD workes fine under those OS. So the hardware configuration seems to be proper. Could you please provide any possible solutions for the problem ? Thanks in advance. Dima. -- Dmitry Solodov E-mail: dima@irs.riga.lv | fax. +371-7287659 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 14:59:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11802 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11792 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ag17954; 8 Jul 96 21:59 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa15815; 8 Jul 96 22:57 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA01996; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:42:23 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:42:23 GMT Message-Id: <199607081742.RAA01996@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: rashid@rk.ios.com CC: chrisl@bbs.justcompute.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607081403.KAA08273@rk.ios.com> (message from Rashid Karimov on Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:03:51 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: HELP With apache and Mod_auth_dbm Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I am trying to compile apache with Mod_auth_dbm and whenever I do I > > get the error message "ld: -lndbm; no Match". So if I xcomment that I out > > I get an error from cc that says "mod_auth_dbm.o: undefinded symbol > > '_crypt' referenced from text segment" > > crypt() needs -lcrypt flag to the compiler/linker Yep. > NDBM could be missing from your system - check for > I'm not sure if regular DBM could be used as the > substitute , but db* family of functions lives in > regular libc and therefore doesn't require -lndbm. I'm not sure how compatible the db* functions are with NDBM, but you can use GDBM as a replacement for [N]DBM. Just install it from the port/package, change '-lndbm' to '-lgdbm' and add /usr/local/lib to the directories searched by the linker. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:03:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12028 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12019 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03273; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:04:01 +0500 Received: by ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6CF7.BA02FAE0@ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:03:11 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6CF7.BA02FAE0@ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Doug White'" Cc: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: RE: Dial up (dynamic IP) Web Server - Possible? Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:03:10 -0400 Encoding: 16 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White[SMTP:dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu] wrote: >On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Anil John wrote: > >> I guess what I am asking is is there a way to map a domain to a dynamic IP >> address? > >There are standards out or in the works for Dynamic DNS, however only a >few implementations exist, most likely commericial and unstable. > >You would be better approaching your provider and having them assign you >a static IP. > Already tried that...He does not do static IP.. Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:10:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12520 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sleet.seas.ucla.edu (paulc@sleet.seas.ucla.edu [164.67.100.91]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12515 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: paulc@seas.ucla.edu Received: by sleet.seas.ucla.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03(UCLA 2.05)noloc) id AA50511; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:10:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:10:36 -0700 Message-Id: <9607082210.AA50511@sleet.seas.ucla.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: help on partitioning harddisk for FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I like to know if there is anyone/any group who can help me with installing the FreeBSD Unix I purchased. I have a problem on partitioning extended partitions. thanks paulc e-mail: paulc@seas.ucla.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:16:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12856 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12848 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad28078; 8 Jul 96 22:16 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa15851; 8 Jul 96 22:57 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02007; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:50:02 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:50:02 GMT Message-Id: <199607081750.RAA02007@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au CC: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, Alain.Thivillon@alma.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607081329.WAA12486@al.imforei.apana.org.au> (message from Peter Childs on Mon, 8 Jul 1996 22:59:28 +0930 (CST)) Subject: Re: [Network] PPPD ou User PPP ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Peter Childs writes: > > Perhaps a "tutorial" for the tutorials section on setting up dialup > access for ISP and other applications with notes about all the client > specific breakages would be of use??? anyone think so? Someone has actually written up a document on this kind of thing and sent it to the doc mailing list about a week ago. It seems to have been rather overlooked in the pre-release pandemonium, though :-( -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:28:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13331 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com (dub-img-4.compuserve.com [149.174.206.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13326 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA17162; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:28:21 -0400 Date: 08 Jul 96 18:15:50 EDT From: Mark Ovens <100104.10@CompuServe.COM> To: questions Subject: ATAPI CD-ROM's & FreeBSD 2.1.0 Message-ID: <960708221550_100104.10_EHQ32-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have just bought FreeBSD 2.1.0 and I am having problems installing it as I have an ATAPI CD-ROM, a Mitsumi FX400 (although all OS's & diagnostics programs report it as being a FX001DE). If I use ATAPI.FLP then the 2nd IDE channel is found by the probe (wdc1 found @ 0x170-0x177 irq15) but when I select CD-ROM as the install media I get the message "No CD-ROM found". Is there a workround,patch, or updated Kernel which improves ATAPI support, which the README's describe as "Alpha quality"? Whilst I have 480Mb of free disk space only 170Mb is within the 1024 cylinder limit imposed by the BIOS for bootable partitions (I can't use the Disk Manager software supplied with the disk drive, WD Caviar 850Mb, as it is not compatible with OS/2 Warp which is also on the disk), so I am restricted to 170Mb for both a DOS partition to install from and the BSD target partition. I would expect BSD to be able to access the whole 480Mb so I guess I could install a basic system and then add the rest into another partition in the remaining space but I feel that it would be a bit messy & time consuming to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Mark Ovens (UK) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:30:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13509 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13495 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thomas.ge.com ([3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05811; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:35:00 -0400 Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by thomas.ge.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA16096; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:47:42 -0400 Received: from combs.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26859; Mon, 8 Jul 96 11:37:32 EDT Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by combs.salem.ge.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA05478; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:37:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen F. Combs" Reply-To: CombsSF@salem.ge.com To: Leon Curtis Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Handling time after 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Leon, We use LynxO/S here (to control steel/paper/metal-rolling mills, etc...) and while I don't have any specific info on LynxO/S's stuff as it relates to date/time the STD unix date/time is already quite able to handle the year 2000 'problem' (we're spending a LOT of money to fix this problem on our IBM-based MRP system!)...... ---- Stephen F. Combs Internet: CombsSF@Salem.GE.COM GE DS&TC Voice: 540.387.8828 Network Services Home: CombsSF-Home@Salem.GE.COM 1501 Roanoke Blvd FAX: 540.387.7106 Salem, VA 24153 LapTop: CombsSF-Mobile@Salem.GE.COM On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Leon Curtis wrote: > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:08:12 +03d-5 > From: Leon Curtis > To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Handling time after 1999 > > I have been asked to look into what other unix kernel groups are planning > to do to address problems with time when the year 2000 arrives. > > I would appreciate any pointers that would enable me to get "plugged in" > to any dialog / specifications relating to this issue. > > I work for a company that owns a version of (real time) unix put out > by LynxOS (Los Gatos, California). Our PBX product runs this OS and will > be the benefactor of the time changes. > > Thanks! > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Leon Curtis lcurtis@intecom.com > bus. (214) 447 8119 > fax (214) 447 8603 > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:44:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA14429 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14424; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA22703; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:39:50 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082239.PAA22703@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: jim@starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:39:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607060818.BAA06119@starshine> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 6, 96 01:18:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'd prefer to see an implementation that provided the front-end > and had that front end build a command line (or series of command > lines). > > Then the interface could allow the admin to look at the > command-line (did my menu selections translate to the sort > of command I would have used?) allow verification or editing > and it can log the commands that were issued. [ ... ] > Not separate -- build "in front of" (from which we get the > term "front end"). The previous, indeed, implies seperate. I was considering that the UI would invoke the command line utility and effectively *ask* the utility for it's UI schema, and implement certain UI-favoring command batching. However, they will in fact be independent by this action. For instance: ============================================================================ # uadmin uadmin> SHOW SCHEMA TITLE "User Administration" MENU TITLE "File" ITEM "Exit" EXIT END MENU TITLE "Users" ITEM "Show Users..." DIALOG user_show ITEM "Add User..." DIALOG user_add ITEM "Delete User..." DIALOG user_del END MENU TITLE "Groups" ITEM "Show Group..." DIALOG group_show ITEM "Add Group..." DIALOG group_add ITEM "Delete Group..." DIALOG group_del END MENU TITLE "Shells" ITEM "Show Shell..." DIALOG shell_show ITEM "Add Shell..." DIALOG shell_add ITEM "Delete Shell..." DIALOG shell_del END DIALOG user_show_d TITLE "Detailed information for user $1" LIST FROM COMMAND "SHOW USER $1 VERBOSE" BUTTON "Done" RETURN CANCEL DIALOG user_show TITLE "Show Users" BUTTON "Ok" RETURN CANCEL BUTTON "Show details..." DIALOG user_show_d $pick PICKONE pick FROM COMMAND "SHOW USER *" END END DIALOG user_del_confirm TITLE "Delete Users WARNING "This process can not be reversed" LIST $1 BUTTON "Cancel" RETURN CANCEL BUTTON "Delete" RETURN ACCEPT END DIALOG user_del TITLE "Delete User" BUTTON "Cancel" RETURN CANCEL BUTTON "Delete" IF DIALOG user_del_confirm $pick == ACCEPT THEN RETURN ACCEPT PICKMANY pick FROM COMMAND "SHOW USER *" COMMAND "DELETE USER $pick NOCONFIRM" END END BEGIN MENU "Delete User" ... ============================================================================ The UI has some choices in terms of presentation, but not in terms of organization. > > I'd like to see one program for a front end, and multiple tools > > that get invoked as a result of front end manipulation. > > > > Tcl/tk are OK for the fornt end tool, but not the backend implementation. > > Some parts of the back end might be implemented as 'expect' > scripts. This should be *strongly* discouraged. One could envision placing the front end on a client system and communicating via a "start this command" protocol over a transient session. For instance, you could consider a CGI script for translation to HTML using server scripting to do administration. This type of thing needs to be embeddable. For instance, say I wanted to build a print engine that was administerable via HTML, and I wanted to use FreeBSD as a base.. > > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > > or previous employers. > > I find this disclaimer amusing since you seem to be posting > from your own domain. Simple CYA. My mail exchanger is my employer. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:47:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA14535 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14528 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA22721; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:43:15 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082243.PAA22721@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: IPX & TLI To: jonny@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:43:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: 101355.2112@CompuServe.COM, questions@FreeBsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607060242.XAA18547@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Jul 5, 96 11:42:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > #define quoting(Thierry Boudet) > // Hello everybody > // > // I am currently working on a networking project > // between UnixWare and MS-DOS over the Novell IPX protocol. > // I'd like to port the Unix-side on FreeBSD. I have based > // my work on the sysV "TLI" interface with IPX. Is it possible > // to use IPX in FreeBSD with TLI ? > > No. There's no implementation of STREAMS and, consequently, TLI over > FreeBSD (yet :) ). TLI = Transport Layer Interface. TLI is an alternative to sockets, with a seperate (non-standardized) NSI for name services (which is integrated into sockets). You do not have to implement Streams to implement TLI (or vice versa). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:50:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA14793 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14774 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-1.ime.net [206.231.148.130]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA20326; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E1908F.2614@ime.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:49:51 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports suggestion References: <199607071015.KAA01396@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > > > "man xxxxx" is a standard Unix-ism for finding out how to use > > > something; Unix programs generally assume that the user knows how to > > > use Unix :-) > > > > > > > Is it not in the best intrest of FreeBSD to encurage New users? > > We all had/have to start someplace! > > Very true, although hopefully you'll soon get a little further along > the road :-) > Slow but sure, My intentions are to make it easier for those that follow! > > A simple 1 line: `See man xxxx(x) for documentation`, would point > > the new user in the right direction. > > xxxx(x) is not always easy to determine with some packages. > > Some programs don't have a simple xxxx(x), unfortunately. I like the > way INN sets out its man pages, so you can start with innd(8) and then > move around as the fancy takes you, but not everyone thinks out their > man pages as carefully as this. > I don't mean man xxxx(x) only, I mean SOMETHING!! > Not to mention GNU, with their "man pages are obsolete" attitude. It happens. > > > New users (at least I do) spend more time trying to find > > documentation then reading installing and configuring the package. > > Not a way to encurage people! > > Depends - when I as in that position, I often found myself stumbling > across interesting things in my searches (until I found out what > 'apropos' and 'whatis' did - try 'whatis whatis' :-) Yea, Me too.. I get off into other things and forget what I was looking for in the first place.. :) I have to thank Jordan for pointing these basics out to me on voice line a couple of years back.. Right after 2.0r came out. I used to live real close to WCCD. > > > Apache, is nice, It tells you where to find help. albeit worthless > > if one does not have a connection to the internet! > > Actually this is something that really annoys me with certain > programs. Why couldn't they provide an .html copy of their online help > with the code? (It's not as if it's difficult or involves giving away > any trade secrets). Not everyone has a permanent Internet connection > paid for by someone else! > Personally I don't want HTML, I would prefer to see something thats standard on ALL platforms, ASCII Text! So they are not pretty, To bad, They are effective. > > There is mention of the pkg_* commands, suffecient I belive! > > My point was to stay one step ahead of the user by pointing to > > the documentation. The pointer to the documentation could be > > displayed in the pkg_info infofile. > > Some do, some don't, All should! > > I'm all in favour of consistency - at the moment this is left to the > discretion of whoever created the package (this is the price you pay > for having people work for you for nothing - if you start trying to > lay down rules, they immediately lose interest). > Well, I feel the attitudes of the people that do the ports would follow any guidelines provided to improve upon the end goal. Of course within reason. > > I would think this would also be good for the Team by helping to > > prevent some of these repetious questions. > > And good for the readers by preventing repetitious answers :-) > Yup. > Unfortunately this is all a bit academic as far as 2.1.5 is concerned > (the packages were all compiled last week), but maybe something can be > done for 2.2. > The purpose, Make things better for the future. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... 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Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:51:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA14884 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14876 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA22749; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:45:59 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082245.PAA22749@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (Werner Griessl) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:45:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: ron@infi.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607081140.LAA13911@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> from "Werner Griessl" at Jul 8, 96 11:40:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Never heard of it. Give me some info and I will take a look. > > It's in our ports tree in "ports/x11/xforms" ! > > > I have to admit the tcl/tk is pretty bizarre stuff, but it's > > quick and is becoming pretty common. > > I saw the discussion during the weekend. > It's a GUI-toolkit-library including an interactive GUI-builder (fdesign). > It would be useful for a X-frontend. An X-frontend for the type of admin tools we have been discussing needs to be dynamically assembleable from parts so that the front end software can be written once and never modified for a multitude of tools. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:53:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15125 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15120; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA22765; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:49:35 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082249.PAA22765@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux To: gpalmer@freebsd.org (Gary Palmer) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:49:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607061154.MAA21585@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 6, 96 12:54:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > No, I don't think it should go in ... full elf support makes quite a > > > few changes in the system, and the latest -current linux emulator even > > > more (and that is needed if you want to run quake). So it's a no-go, > > > not this close to a release. > > > Well, then I'll call it a mistake to have not considered it before > > it was this close to release... 8-(. [ ... ] > See the number of non-linux related files touched? Since then there > have been countless bug fixes for various aspects of the `emulator', > and with the different VM (etc) structures in -current and -stable, I > wouldn't have recommended anyone try back-porting this. How many non-linux related files were touched for other features that changed between 2.1R and 2.1.5? I don't think a "weight of printout" argument is really applicable in this case. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:54:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15182 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15177 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-1.ime.net [206.231.148.130]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA20539; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E19146.60D1@ime.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:52:54 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: makeing world References: <199607071029.KAA01447@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > > > > I'm having problems making world, It keeps crashing and I don't > > > > get a chance to see the screen before it re-boots and eats > > > > my source tree. > > > > > > Any clues in /var/log/messages? > > > > Nope, Nothing.. I looked even though I didn't think make writes > > anything to log/messages. > > It doesn't, but if there's a system problem (like a panic) it should > get logged. > Yea, But nothing.. > My suspicion is that you ran out of virtual memory; when this happens, > FreeBSD starts killing off processes to try and make more room, and it > may have killed off init(8) by mistake. I don't think you'd get a log > entry in these circumstances. > I geuss, It did complete in single user so... Kind of afraid to try it again in multiuser, It ate my src tree. (No big deal though) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:56:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15396 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15387 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-1.ime.net [206.231.148.130]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA20736; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E191F8.20CD@ime.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:55:52 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Searle CC: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports suggestion References: <199607070624.XAA01726@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Searle wrote: > > owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org wrote: > > >> "man xxxxx" is a standard Unix-ism for finding out how to use > >> something; Unix programs generally assume that the user knows how to > >> use Unix :-) > > > Is it not in the best intrest of FreeBSD to encurage New users? We all > > had/have to start someplace! > > > A simple 1 line: `See man xxxx(x) for documentation`, would point the > > new user in the right direction. xxxx(x) is not always easy to determine > > with some packages. > > pkg_info -f does it - it gives you the packing list, which should include > any man pages provided. 0 out of 10 for 'easy for new users', though. > Aye, I kinda like that, Although not many of the ports I have added have the packing list. (As you called it) Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 15:57:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15498 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15491 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA22780; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:53:11 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082253.PAA22780@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition To: k4ef0098@kiss.uni-lj.si (Damir Cifer) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:53:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Damir Cifer" at Jul 7, 96 01:05:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What I wonder is if it will be possible to install FreeBSD into a part of > the extended partition (logical partition) in the 2.2.0 release? Is it > perhaps already possible in the current snaps? Yes, you can install it there. You just can't boot it. This is a problem with the boot loader program not looking on extended partitions for bootable partitions. The OS/2 and NT boot loaders fix this problem (but understandably, we can't ship them with BSD). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:00:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA15745 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA15740 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA22802; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:56:21 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082256.PAA22802@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: IP masquerading possible? To: gar@ccnet.com (Adam Capell) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:56:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607070053.RAA17971@ccnet4.ccnet.com> from "Adam Capell" at Jul 6, 96 05:49:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a way to do IP masquerading under FreeBSD, so that I can > connect my network to the internet with only a single static IP > number? Masquerading is an abomination. Install socks instead. If you need a transparent proxy gateway, you need to hack up socks using a tunnel device, and designate FreeBSD to be the default gateway for the machines needing proxy. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:02:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16050 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hfdmail1.imagine.com (hfdmail1.imagine.com [204.249.166.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16042 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluehub1.imagine.com (204.249.166.25) by hfdmail1.imagine.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:14:03 -0400 Message-ID: <31E19354.4097@imagine.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:01:40 -0400 From: "Jeffrey M. and Sonya C. Metcalf" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Increase swap space? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I recently upgraded my RAM from 16MB to 32MB. I typically run the following applications on FreeBSD: Netscape, TeX, emacs, and gcc There will probably never be any more than two users on my system at any given time. When I installed FreeBSD, I only dedicated 32MB to swap space. I have read some discussion that swap space for FreeBSD should be 32MB or 2.5 times physical memory, whichever is larger. Do you feel that I should increase swap space to get the optimal benefit from my new RAM upgrade? If so, is there a way to do this without reinstalling FreeBSD? I noticed some discussion in the FreeBSD FAQ concerning adding swap space. Should I just follow the procedure, or are there other concerns here? Thank You, JM -- Jeffrey M. and Sonya C. Metcalf 200 Ridgefield Drive Middletown, CT 06457 metcalf@imagine.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:05:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16300 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA16289 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA22815; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:00:52 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082300.QAA22815@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: How do you write to an executable (binary)? To: bmc@telebase.com Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:00:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: tst@titan.cs.mci.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607061732.NAA01056@current.willscreek.com> from "Brian M. Clapper" at Jul 6, 96 01:32:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Thomas> Here's what I'm trying to do: > > Thomas> I have a program that will prompt the user for a value. I would > Thomas> like to write that value to the executable (binary) file. (Using > Thomas> open, lseek, write, close) > > Thomas> Problem: > > Thomas> When I open the file I get the following error: > > Thomas> "Error: Text file busy". The message number is [ETXTBSY]. > > Thomas> I'm able to do this with other OS. How can I get this to work with > Thomas> FreeBSD? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > That means the executable is in use--i.e., someone's running it. If you > have enough space on the file system, you can eliminate that problem this > way: > > 1. Copy the executable to a uniquely temporary file in the same directory, > and be sure to preserve the ownership and permission settings. > 2. Update the temporary file with your value. > 3. Unlink the original. > 4. Rename the temporary to the original. > > Of course, this whole topic begs the obvious question: Why are you updating > an executable in this way? I presume he is attempting to institute some type of licensing or self-serialization as a means of copy protection through identification of where a working copy came from. He will need to use two files. This is one of the problems with memory overcommit that can be fixed in the kernel... basically anywhere ETXTBSY is being returned to user space, someone has been lazy about hiding overcommit. The program file is being used as swap-store, in particular, and it is possible to mark the vnode aliased in the kernel and copy-on-write it to swap, letting you modify the real executable without returning an ETXTBSY. Only it isn't being done. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:06:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16329 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA16319 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa14605; 8 Jul 96 23:05 GMT Received: from icrt.demon.co.uk ([158.152.246.228]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa19126; 8 Jul 96 23:08 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:07:06 +0100 To: James Raynard Cc: questions@freebsd.org From: "Lars G. Erlandsen" Subject: Re: Help: FreeBSD 2.1 'mount' fails on 2.0 SCSI partition In-Reply-To: <199607051709.RAA01856@jraynard.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 1.11 <0$M+ltNrbQ$Y$ryVKqcUZpyKB5> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607051709.RAA01856@jraynard.demon.co.uk>, James Raynard writes >If I understand correctly, the problem is something like this:- > > wd0 DOS slice, FreeBSD-2.1.0 root partition > sd0 not relevant here > sd1 dedicated FreeBSD-2.0 disk with a trashed root partition, but a > /usr partition with valuable data in it. Nearly correct. sd1: 700 Mbyte partition used for FreeBSD 2.0 out of a total of 1080 Mbytes. 'Disklabel' reports: # /dev/sd1s1: type: SCSI disk: label: MBR based label flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 700 sectors/unit: 1435616 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 61440 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 0 - 29) b: 163840 61440 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 30 - 109) c: 1435616 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 700*) e: 1210336 225280 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 110 - 700*) > > System will boot off FreeBSD partition on wd0, but on attempting to > mount /dev/sd1s1d, gives errors about "overlapping partitions" and > mounts the trashed root partition instead! How to recover data from > /usr? Correct. Message is: sd1s1: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice sd1s1: start 32, end 1435647, size 1435616 sd1s1d: start 0, end 2110811, size 2110812 Regards, Lars G. Erlandsen, Inter-Connect RealTime Ltd. email lerland@icrt.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:09:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16645 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA16635 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA22830; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:04:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082304.QAA22830@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Deleting a tree To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:04:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607070058.VAA20838@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at Jul 6, 96 09:58:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There's a way to delete a directory tree, without deleting all the > archives inside it ? Maybe a script file? What do you mean "without deleting all the archives inside it"? A directory is a container object. To delete it, it must be empty. If it is not empty, you can not delete it. I don't understand what you are trying to delete. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:14:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16914 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16908 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id AAA26103; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:13:47 +0100 (BST) To: tcg@ime.net cc: Michael Searle , questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Ports suggestion In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:55:52 EDT." <31E191F8.20CD@ime.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 00:13:46 +0100 Message-ID: <26101.836867626@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler wrote in message ID <31E191F8.20CD@ime.net>: > Aye, I kinda like that, Although not many of the ports I have > added have the packing list. (As you called it) They are ALL meant to have them, as that is how the packages are built ... if they just have subdirectories in them (which some do, and is a bit of a cheat), then they should be fixed to have complete packing lists ... otherwise you cannot pkg_delete them :-( Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:17:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA17110 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17102 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA22889; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:13:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082313.QAA22889@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:13:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: tcg@ime.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607071622.SAA16843@allegro.lemis.de> from "Greg Lehey" at Jul 7, 96 06:22:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In stty, on is shown as clocal, and off is shown as -clocal. The > modem control line to which it refers is DCD (Data Carrier Detect), > which only comes on when you have established a connection. In the > olden days, before modems had autodial capability, this was > appropriate, but now it's a pain. CLOCAL means "hang pending off->on DCD transition from the DCE". CLOCAL is supposed to be set/unset based on the use of the O_NDELAY or non-use of O_NDELAY as an open flag. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:25:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA17883 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17855 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10660; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:26:12 +0500 Received: by ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6D03.35704420@ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:25:23 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6D03.35704420@ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Jim Dennis'" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Dial up (dynamic IP) Web Server - Possible? Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:24:57 -0400 Encoding: 29 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Dennis[SMTP:jim@starshine.org] wrote: > > I think you are suffering from a fundamental misunderstanding > of how internet services in general (and the web in particular) > are supposed to work. Jim, Thank you for your detailed clarification of how internet services in general (and the web in particular) work. > Do you want to just play with a server that you can access > "from the outside"? You can do that by bringing up your connection > and pointing your browser at the dynamic IP address. Do you want > to play with apache add-in modules? You can do that on the > localhost anyway. Exactly. This is just for my amusement. I am new to Unix/FreeBSD and to Web Servers and I figured that setting something like this up would be a good way for me to learn about both. My provider drops connections after a 3 hour time frame so I would not know what dynamic IP address to point to, from the outside, if I exceed that time frame. > So, what are you planning on publishing on your pages? > Nothing that is of earth shattering import :). Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:32:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18921 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18916 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA22948; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:28:37 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082328.QAA22948@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Handling time after 1999 To: lcurtis@intecom.com (Leon Curtis) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:28:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Leon Curtis" at Jul 8, 96 09:08:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have been asked to look into what other unix kernel groups are planning > to do to address problems with time when the year 2000 arrives. Nothing. But life will be a real bitch come 2038, when the 32 bit timeval's all roll over. > I would appreciate any pointers that would enable me to get "plugged in" > to any dialog / specifications relating to this issue. In general, new UNIX systems use a 64 bit time value, which should be sufficient for the next ~100 billion years. > I work for a company that owns a version of (real time) unix put out > by LynxOS (Los Gatos, California). Our PBX product runs this OS and will > be the benefactor of the time changes. The time problems most systems run into are the use of two character date input and storage fields. There is currently no problem with that for any software known to be on BSD. The typical failure case is for COBOL or "business FORTRAN" users who hard coded small date fields to meet input packing constraints (need to fit this teeny form onto the screen) or who implemented "easier input" mechanisms (to keep people from having to type "19" in front of their years). In general, this is *purely* a database/UI problem. In 2038, if the UNIX programmers used time_t like they were supposed to, then a simple recompile will fix the problem, with no additional changes necessary )(the file system already has reserved space for 64 bit dates). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:34:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19127 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.223.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19118 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (skrishna@localhost) by lint.cisco.com (8.6.10/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id QAA12232; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:34:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:34:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: Greg Lehey cc: Gary Chrysler , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help In-Reply-To: <199607070735.JAA15158@allegro.lemis.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have not resolved the problem using the internal modem on COM1. Here is the scenario: I have MWave card on IBM Aptiva system that combines the functions of a Sound Card, some DSP, COM1 Fax/Modem. The COM1 has an i/o address of 02F8h (0x2f8) and uses IRQ 4. I have PS/2 mouse which is working fine. Has anybody heard of the Mwave Card ? I scanned through the FAQ for hardware support and I could not find any. The system also comes with two (extrenal) serial ports A & B which are configured as COM2 (0x3e8, IRQ 3) and COM3 (0x3e8, IRQ 4). I have tried kernel configuration: - sio0 with 0x2f8 and intr. 4 , with/without conflicts clause and commented out sio1, sio2 and sio3. I saw the WIN95 config, it shows COM1 at the above address. During boot, the kernel says that sio0 is not configured because 0x2f8 does not respond. The only way sio0 would work is if I configured my kernel for 0x38h which is actually COM3. That is why my modem is not responding (sincve it is configured as COM3). How do I get the kernel to recognize sio0 ? Does the serial driver only recognize serial port cards and not this multi-function card. If so, any ideas how I can use the built-in modem. I got my fvwm working! I found out that "twm" is configured in the xinitrc (under /usr/X11R6/lib/x11). Do you think this should be part of the handbook ? Thanks for you help. I am enjoying the FreeBSD! > > 1. cu -l cuaa0 > > says "connected". Then when I type "ATDTE1Q0", I am expecting "OK". > > Nothing happens. When I quit out with ~. it takes a minute to disconnect. > > This looks familiar. It's really a bug of sorts in cu. From another > window (or virtual terminal), do: > > # stty -f /dev/cuaa0 -a > speed 9600 baud; 0 rows; 0 columns; > lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echoke -echonl > -echoctl -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho -pendin > -nokerninfo -extproc > iflags: -istrip -icrnl -inlcr -igncr -ixon -ixoff -ixany -imaxbel -ignbrk > -brkint -inpck -ignpar -parmrk > oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs > cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts -dsrflow > ******* > -dtrflow -mdmbuf > cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; > eol2 = ; erase = ^?; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; > min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ; > stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > > This shows the complete state of the line. You will probably find > -clocal (i.e. local communications reset, device waiting for an > incoming connection). Next enter: > > # stty -f /dev/cuaa0 clocal > > This sets clocal (in the display you see 'clocal' instead of > '-clocal'). After that, things should work. > > > Yet another person aksed me disable PnP (plug and Play) option. I do not > > know how-to. I'll give it a try. > > I very much doubt that that has anything to do with it. Does it have > a PnP option? > > > 2. On fvwm, I am little confused. I start xdm as explained in the book > > (via init - ttys. Ofcourse I cannot use because a wm is already running. > > I wouldn't have said 'of course'. If you have a window manager > running, you don't need another one. Check your .xinitrc file. Maybe > it already invokes a window manager. You can also enter: > > $ ps aux | grep wm > root 15152 1.0 0.3 224 176 p5 S+ 9:33AM 0:00.03 grep wm > grog 201 0.0 0.8 384 520 co S Fri06PM 0:08.53 fvwm > > You will probably see some other window manager, but it might be that > you already have fvwm. > > > If I do startx, then whole bunch of X sessions start > > That sounds like fvwm. > > > but I am unable to bring up fvwm. > > I wouldn't be so sure :-) > > Greg > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:37:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19613 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19604 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from downlink.eng.umd.edu (downlink.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.182]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23287; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by downlink.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA15899; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:36:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@downlink.eng.umd.edu To: Tim Vanderhoek cc: Tim Vanderhoek , Derek Law , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i have a question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > Just to make that a little clearer, it's fine to read the dos partition, > > but the risky part comes in WRITING TO the dos partition. I've never > > seen the least problem reading the data. Probably safest to do the mount > > as a read only mount. > > On my 2.2-960501-SNAP system here, just listing some of the files on my DOS > slice will cause all my FreeBSD partitions to become ruined well beyond my > ability to repair. Maybe a bug in the -SNAP code I didn't hear about. Let me get this right: you mounted a dos partition, and when you did an ls on it, this damaged your FreeBSD partitions? I'd never heard of this before, I want to get it straight. > > Floppies, of course, mount finely. > > -- > Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! > tIM...HOEk > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:37:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19791 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19778 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA22977; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:32:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082332.QAA22977@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:32:40 -0700 (MST) Cc: k4ef0098@kiss.uni-lj.si, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607081232.MAA01150@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from "James Raynard" at Jul 8, 96 12:32:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is it possible to install FreeBSD (if not, when will it be) into a > > logical extended partition. Like in Linux you can install for example into > > /dev/hdc8 (6. logical partition on the 3rd drive)? > > No, FreeBSD requires its own ``primary partition'' (to use the DOS > terminology). I don't know of any work being done that would allow > what you want, but you have the source... :-) I think erich's "multiboot" proposal and sample code will allow this. Logical-to-physical device translation in devfs would make the root on the extended partition mountable. After all, once a cohesive standard is developed for handling all types of partitioning, it becomes irrelevant what partitioning is between your physical device and the deventual logical device containing your root. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 16:47:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA21785 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21780 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA23007; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:41:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607082341.QAA23007@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Partition table gone. Fixable? To: dougal@iquest.com (Dougal Campbell) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:41:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Dougal Campbell" at Jul 8, 96 02:30:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've got a drive whose partition table was damaged somehow. Is there any > way to restore the partition table, and recover the filesystem data? Can > this be done with disklabel? The man pages aren't clear as to whether the > partition table is part of the "label", but it sort of implies such. > > Is the data salvagable, or am I just boned? It is salvagable. This is a non-trivial task. It has been discussed on this list before, and your best bet would be to go through the list archives. Do you know if it was the actualy partition table (the front of the physical disk)? Or was it just the disklabel (there are options to disklabel, used during install, that will let you write a label wothout reading it first). You will probably need to reset the BSD bootstrap on the disk (-B). To find the actual FS start offsets, you will need to read through the disk a sector at a time looking for the FS "magic numbers"; see the list archives referenced before for details. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 17:00:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22415 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itchy.serv.net (itchy.serv.net [199.201.191.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22409 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sex.cyberswinger.com ([206.129.79.14]) by itchy.serv.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA01915 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:00:04 -0700 Message-ID: <31E1A11B.7901@cyberswinger.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 17:00:27 -0700 From: technodude Organization: VCI X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SyQuest device drivers for FreeBSD 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have read a few discussions on SyQuest drives for 2.0, but don't really know where to obtain the drivers for them. Can anyone help me out? -please reply to marc@cyberswinger.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 17:19:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00494 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00477 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA25352; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:16:23 -0500 Message-Id: <9607090016.AA25352@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:16:23 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: dima@irs.riga.lv, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with 3th SCSI-2 HDD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > there is a big problem (at least for me) with SCSI HDDs. > > There is a PC with Adaptec AIC-7850 on motherboard and FreeBSD 2.1.0. > There are three HDDs attached to the SCSI-2 bus: > ID > ---------------------------- > 0 Conner CFP1080S (SCSI terminated) > 1 Quantum Lightning 540S (SCSI not terminated) > 2 Conner CFP2105S (SCSI not terminated) > 7 AIC-7850 (SCSI terminated) > > When FreeBSD 2.1 is booted (I booted by means of install.bat/inst_ide.bat > under DOS), it detects ahc0, waits "SCSI deviced to settle", then shows > list of disks' data, and then about 10-15 copies of the string > "ahc0 WARNING no command for scb 0" > and goes to reboot. The AIC-7850 wasn't supported in FreeBSD-2.1. You need to upgrade to -stable, or get the last snapshot of -current, or even wait for 2.1.5 due really soon. The aic7xxx driver also had some bug fixes and enhancements incorporated into -stable and -current. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 17:21:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA01010 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.infi.net (pa1dsp22.dc.infi.net [204.117.149.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00982 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ron@localhost) by localhost.infi.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA01556; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:27:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:27:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Steele X-Sender: ron@localhost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SysAdmin Round 2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wow, I got quite a response regarding system admin tools. It looks like there is a lot more basic work to be done than I anticipated, whick is ok by me. One thing I don't want to do is reinvent anything, so let me know if I have missed something. Here is the plan for passwd/group admin: A C library to impliment the low level database type operations of add, delete, and query, that will work on either the groups file, password file, or any other simular text file. A C program to give command line access to this library. A tcl program interface to the lirary - which will be provide the fuctions needed by tcl/tk to do a full GUI. The tcl/tk GUI. Xforms was suggested as an alternative to tcl/tk. It may work fine, and even be simpler, but as I have done some tcl/tk and the tcl interpreter work is directly applicable to my current employment, I think I will stick to tcl/tk. I think that does a fair job of encompassing the desires of parties that responded. A further question: How do people like to have default values, and behaviors stored. The obvious things are environment variables, config files, and command line params. I personally dislike a zillion command line parameters. The choice of config files or environment variables seems to be a choice between two evils. If no one cares I will likely do the config file thing. More comments are welcome. Ron Steele From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 17:23:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA01890 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01875 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0udQWx-0004rlC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 20:19 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29767; Mon, 8 Jul 96 20:19:08 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA17945; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:20:59 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199607090020.UAA17945@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: problem with ELM To: vdongre@rolta.com (Vrushal Dongre) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607081639.AA22600@68f800.rolta.com> from "Vrushal Dongre" at Jul 8, 96 04:39:25 pm Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Vrushal Dongre: >I have a FBSD 2.0 mailserver & I have installed ELM on the system. >The compilation went OK . >But now when I type elm at the prompt I get the following messages :- > > Waiting to read mailbox while mail is being received: attempt #n > >After 7 attempts it says:- > Giving up after 7 iteration. > Please try to read your mail again in a few minutes. > Timed out on locking mailbox. Leaving program. > >Can anyone tell me what I have to do to make ELM work ? If I make any changes >to the configuration file will I have to recompile the whole thing again ? >i.e. run --> 'make all ' ? Here's what I'm using in my ELM (from config.h): /*#define USE_FLOCK_LOCKING*/ /**/ #define USE_DOTLOCK_LOCKING /**/ #define USE_FCNTL_LOCKING /**/ #define LOCK_DIR "/var/spool/uucp" /**/ then, pick a group that all your mail users will be in (e.g. staff) and then (as root): cd /var chgrp staff mail chmod 2777 mail Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 17:27:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03976 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03955 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dougal@localhost) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.12/8.6.9 Secure) with SMTP id TAA04824; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:26:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:26:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Dougal Campbell To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partition table gone. Fixable? In-Reply-To: <199607082341.QAA23007@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: X-people-who-like-custom-headers: dougal@iquest.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I've got a drive whose partition table was damaged somehow. Is there any > > way to restore the partition table, and recover the filesystem data? Can > > this be done with disklabel? The man pages aren't clear as to whether the > > partition table is part of the "label", but it sort of implies such. > > > > Is the data salvagable, or am I just boned? > > It is salvagable. This is a non-trivial task. It has been discussed > on this list before, and your best bet would be to go through the > list archives. Just do you know I didn't post here blindly, I *did* do a quick search through the mailing list archives for the keywords "partition table". I found a couple of people asking similar questions, and one semi-answer talking about what magic number to look for (as a matter of fact, on second glance, that message was from you, Terry :). I emailed a copy of that message to myself for reference. As I write this, I'm doing some more searching.... > Do you know if it was the actualy partition table (the front of the > physical disk)? Or was it just the disklabel (there are options to > disklabel, used during install, that will let you write a label > wothout reading it first). Well, if I try to mount, this is the error in /var/log/messages: Jul 8 18:52:02 fubar /kernel: wd1: hard error reading fsbn 0wd1: status 79 error 4 Jul 8 18:52:02 fubar /kernel: wd1: error reading primary partition table reading fsbn 0 (wd1 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) I also get this error if I try "disklabel -r /dev/wd1". If I remember correctly, this drive was partitioned in the "incompatible" one-big-slice mode. I'm hoping that this means that recovery will be a little simpler. > You will probably need to reset the BSD bootstrap on the disk (-B). > > To find the actual FS start offsets, you will need to read through the > disk a sector at a time looking for the FS "magic numbers"; see the > list archives referenced before for details. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org I had seen the -B option for disklabel, but was afraid to touch anything until I had heard from someone more knowledgable on the subject. Also, I didn't think it would really matter, since this was not the boot disk. As you might guess from above, the machine has wd0 and wd1, and wd1 is the afflicted disk, and it was mounted as /usr/local. Also, this is FreeBSD 2.1R. Will disklabel -B actually do anything useful in this case? While I'm searching more of the mailing list archives, what other tips can you offer? I've never had to deal with low-level disk repair before. Nothing that couldn't be fixed by fsck, anyhow. At least, not under unix (I've hacked similar filesystems, like OS/9). What tools can I use to read/modify sectors directly, if necessary -- dd? If I try disklabel -B (or -w, for that matter), will I just screw things up even more? -- Dougal Campbell | "No animals or aliens were harmed in the making Systems Coordinator | of this film." interQuest: Hsv, AL | dougal@iquest.com | -- Disclaimer in the credits for ID4 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 17:30:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04421 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04386; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15606; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:27:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:27:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607090027.SAA15606@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Terry Lambert Cc: gpalmer@freebsd.org (Gary Palmer), ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux In-Reply-To: <199607082249.PAA22765@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199607061154.MAA21585@palmer.demon.co.uk> <199607082249.PAA22765@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ ELF support in -current ] Terry writes: > Well, then I'll call it a mistake to have not considered it before > it was this close to release... 8-(. > > [ ... ] [ Gary responds with a list of files necessary for the upgrade ] > See the number of non-linux related files touched? Since then there > have been countless bug fixes for various aspects of the `emulator', > and with the different VM (etc) structures in -current and -stable, I > wouldn't have recommended anyone try back-porting this. > > How many non-linux related files were touched for other features that > changed between 2.1R and 2.1.5? Lots. Maybe 'touched' was a poor word. Many files were 'fixed' in the 2.1 -> 2.1.5 upgrade, but very few new features were added, and a couple of them shouldn't have been (/dev/random stuff). The ELF stuff is *new* code, and as such doesn't fit the bill for the 'target' of the stable release. > I don't think a "weight of printout" argument is really applicable in > this case. It certainly is. The 'weight of printout' implies that the code is both new *and* fairly untested on a large scale. And, simply because it exists in -current doesn't mean it has been tested given the instablity of current until recently plus the fact that very few folks actually *use* the ELF stuff in -current. The whole raison-d-etre of 'stable' is to be a bug-fix release of 2.1 with only known, tested, 'evolutionary' code in it, vs. new, faster, 'revolutionary' code. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 17:54:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17534 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17507 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab20467; 9 Jul 96 0:54 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa15590; 9 Jul 96 1:35 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04145; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:57:31 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:57:31 GMT Message-Id: <199607082357.XAA04145@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dougal@iquest.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Dougal Campbell on Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:30:03 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: Partition table gone. Fixable? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Dougal Campbell writes: > > I've got a drive whose partition table was damaged somehow. Is there any > way to restore the partition table, and recover the filesystem data? Can I'll assume here that you mean the FreeBSD label (the one that says where /, /usr and co are in a FreeBSD slice), rather than the partition table at the start of the disk (the one which tells the system where the slices for different operating systems are). Two things come to mind (I'll assume the obvious one of getting a new disk and restoring from backups isn't applicable here :-) 1. If you have a steady hand and can remember _exactly_ how the disk was set up before, you can probably re-create it in the installation program's disklabel editor. Reboot from the install floppy (or run /stand/sysinstall), select ``Express Installation'', press 'q' to get out of the fdisk editor and you will arrive in the disklabel editor. When you think you've got it right, press 'w' to write the changes, confirm that yes, you really want to do that, and then keep pressing escape until you exit the installation. If you're a command-line traditionalist, you can do 'disklabel -e -r sd0' (or whatever the correct name is for the disk) instead. 2. Put the disk in another FreeBSD machine and try to grab the data from the raw devices for the disk (I've a nasty feeling this will require a correct partition table, though). > this be done with disklabel? The man pages aren't clear as to whether the > partition table is part of the "label", but it sort of implies such. It's a confusing topic, and the man pages are not anywhere near as clear as they could be. If by "partition table" you actually mean the one at the start of the disk, then you'll need to use 'fdisk -i -u', or the installation program's fdisk editor, instead. > Is the data salvagable, or am I just boned? Don't know - I've never actually had to do this myself. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 17:54:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17654 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17573; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac20467; 9 Jul 96 0:54 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa15593; 9 Jul 96 1:35 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04068; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:08:14 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:08:14 GMT Message-Id: <199607082308.XAA04068@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: gpalmer@freebsd.org CC: k4ef0098@kiss.uni-lj.si, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <25198.836850986@palmer.demon.co.uk> (message from Gary Palmer on Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:36:26 +0100) Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Gary Palmer writes: > > James Raynard wrote in message ID > <199607081232.MAA01150@jraynard.demon.co.uk>: > > No, FreeBSD requires its own ``primary partition'' (to use the DOS > > terminology). I don't know of any work being done that would allow > > what you want, but you have the source... :-) > > Even if it was possible, you have the interesting problem that I don't > think our boot code will allow you to boot from a non-primary > partition Yep, the boot code was what I had in mind and I should have said that more clearly. Out of interest, I know it's possible to access DOS ``logical partitions'' (using slices 5-32); am I right in thinking it's possible to similarly access a FreeBSD ``logical partition'' from a regular FreeBSD slice? > (infact I'm fairly certain it won't), and the boot sector is > pretty full with the current code as it is. This sort of effort will > have to wait for the fabled 3 stage boot process I think. Oh, I'd forgotten about the 3 stage boot process. In that case, pretend you don't have the source. :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 18:25:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21044 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21030 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0udRXz-0001EcC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 21:25 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: netstart goof Date: 8 Jul 1996 21:24:59 -0400 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4rscdb$j4i@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Awhile ago, I suggested modifying netstart to allow "NO" to mean don't do an explicit ifconfig. If you looked at that, you might have noticed that I didn't quote some of the arguments to test and fixed it. If you didn't notice, well, check it out; the references to ifconfig_args require quotes to prevent the test operator from failing. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 18:51:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22908 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22903 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA23283; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:46:36 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607090146.SAA23283@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Partition table gone. Fixable? To: dougal@iquest.com (Dougal Campbell) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:46:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Dougal Campbell" at Jul 8, 96 07:26:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I had seen the -B option for disklabel, but was afraid to touch anything > until I had heard from someone more knowledgable on the subject. Also, I > didn't think it would really matter, since this was not the boot disk. As > you might guess from above, the machine has wd0 and wd1, and wd1 is the > afflicted disk, and it was mounted as /usr/local. Also, this is FreeBSD > 2.1R. Will disklabel -B actually do anything useful in this case? > > While I'm searching more of the mailing list archives, what other tips can > you offer? I've never had to deal with low-level disk repair before. > Nothing that couldn't be fixed by fsck, anyhow. At least, not under > unix (I've hacked similar filesystems, like OS/9). What tools can I use > to read/modify sectors directly, if necessary -- dd? If I try disklabel -B > (or -w, for that matter), will I just screw things up even more? If you know where things are offset at, you can basically rewrite the important parts with the standard tools, and nothing will be damaged. Were you mounting an MSDOSFS partition that is in fromnt of the BSD partition? If so, this is probably the cause of your problem. 8-(. Your biggest problem is going to be figuring out slice 'b' if you don't rememebr the size; swap partitions don't have magic numbers. A good bet would be a binary editor (like xvi), except one that works on a block-by-block basis, so you can edit sectors by editing the device. I remember an "xedit" from about 3 years ago. If you don't have another BSD system, you will probably want to ask for someone to compile it so you can get it onto your fixit floppy, if you are going to take that route... otherwise, you will need to write a tool to search for the magic number. If you remember who I was replying to, I'm sure they have some of the tools -- I rememebr them talking about having recovered their system after the first posting you refer to. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 18:57:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23176 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23171 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA23317; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:52:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607090152.SAA23317@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Round 2 To: ron@infi.net (Ron Steele) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:52:43 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Ron Steele" at Jul 8, 96 04:27:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > A further question: How do people like to have default values, and behaviors > stored. The obvious things are environment variables, config files, > and command line params. I personally dislike a zillion command line > parameters. The choice of config files or environment variables seems > to be a choice between two evils. If no one cares I will likely do > the config file thing. Like monotonically increasing default user ID assignment as an "element of the environment"? I think it's necessary. I'd like to see *some* policy, but I'd be shy to embed "user class ranges" (like those in the current "adduser" for "batch" adds) into the tools themselves -- leave that for scripting at the command line level. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 19:01:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA23529 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA23520; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA23331; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:57:12 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607090157.SAA23331@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:57:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, gpalmer@freebsd.org, ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607090027.SAA15606@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Jul 8, 96 06:27:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > How many non-linux related files were touched for other features that > > changed between 2.1R and 2.1.5? > > Lots. Maybe 'touched' was a poor word. Many files were 'fixed' in the > 2.1 -> 2.1.5 upgrade, but very few new features were added, and a couple > of them shouldn't have been (/dev/random stuff). The ELF stuff is *new* > code, and as such doesn't fit the bill for the 'target' of the stable > release. OK, I can accept this. It means that there is really little value in 2.1.5R vs. 2.1R (from my personal point of view, anyway), but it is a solid, rational position. > > I don't think a "weight of printout" argument is really applicable in > > this case. > > It certainly is. The 'weight of printout' implies that the code is both > new *and* fairly untested on a large scale. No, it implies that the "number of files touched" is an arbiter of whether or not a change is a good one or not. I liked your rational approach (bugfix, not feature add) better. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 19:12:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA24178 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24172 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA00759 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:12:06 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA03058; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:02:24 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607090102.SAA03058@starshine> Subject: Re: Dial up (dynamic IP) Web Server - Possible? To: ajohn@cyberforge.com (Anil John) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jim@starshine.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01BB6D03.35704420@ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us> from "Anil John" at Jul 8, 96 07:24:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Jim Dennis[SMTP:jim@starshine.org] wrote: > > > > > I think you are suffering from a fundamental misunderstanding > > of how internet services in general (and the web in particular) > > are supposed to work. > > Jim, > > Thank you for your detailed clarification of how internet services in > general (and the web in particular) work. > > > Do you want to just play with a server that you can access > > "from the outside"? You can do that by bringing up your connection > > and pointing your browser at the dynamic IP address. Do you want > > to play with apache add-in modules? You can do that on the > > localhost anyway. > > Exactly. This is just for my amusement. I am new to Unix/FreeBSD and to > Web Servers and I figured that setting something like this up would be a > good way for me to learn about both. My provider drops connections after a > 3 hour time frame so I would not know what dynamic IP address to point to, > from the outside, if I exceed that time frame. > > > So, what are you planning on publishing on your pages? > > > Nothing that is of earth shattering import :). > > Anil No problem, Just point your web browser at your dynamic IP address by number like so: http://192.168.1.1:80/path/to/your/pages (where 192...: is replaced by your IP address, :80 is replaced by the port on which you're running the daemon (optional), and /path.../ is replaced with optional path and option file name (relative to your "document root" as set in httpd.conf). From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 20:10:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00677 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pom-vms2.pomona.edu (pom-vms2.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00664 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #12356) id <01I6UC94EO748WWLG1@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 Jul 1996 20:09:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 20:09:27 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: PS/2 mouse problems - help please? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I6UC94ERYQ8WWLG1@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently bought a Mouse Systems Optical, three button mouse for my system. These mice come with a serial connector, and an adapter to plug it into the PS/2 port. I have been using another PS/2 three button mouse with no problems for quite some time now. However, the Mouse Systems mouse has been quite erratic. My XServer is XInside's XAccel. Basically, the second and third buttons of the MS optical mouse perform the same function in X, even though this mouse is supposed to be fully three button functional. The mouse also does not work properly in DOS apps. My confusion lies with the fact that this is the second of this model I have tried - I returned the first to try another in case the first was broken. I have also been told that this mouse works well for others, using XFree86. I thought the PS/2 protocol (if that is what it could be called) is a standard - so if my first PS/2 three button mouse worked, shouldnt this one as well? Could there be a hardware conflict with this mouse when there was none with the previous mouse? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 20:26:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02187 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp (nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.85.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02157 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp (kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.109.10]) by nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.4W/3.3W9/SUT.NODA-950227) with SMTP id MAA16951 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:24:33 +0900 Received: by kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp (4.2/6.4J.6-04.12) id AA11446; Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:24:28 JST Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:24:28 JST From: Tatsurou MIZUNUMA Message-Id: <9607090324.AA11446@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Mr. My name is Tatsuro Mizunuma, a usr of Free BSD2.1 . Thank you remail for my question , yesterday . I tried as your re-mail , > FreeBSD does indeed have a driver for the 3Com 3C590-COMBO > Network Card. The driver is call 'epX' where X is a number from > 0 to 9. If you have one 3Com 3C590-COMBO card, it is called > ep0. The second would be called ep1. > > To use the UTP port on the card, you need to add '-link2' to the > /sbin/ifconfig command for the card (for example: > /sbin/ifconfig inet 198.35.166.171 link2 netmask 255.255.255.192). but 3C590-combo card is not usable on Free BSD 2.1 . If you have other good idea for this problem , please advice to me ... I'm pleased with your answer of my question. Good by _______________________________________________________________ Science University of Tokyo , Japan Tatsuro Mizunuma e-mail : kitao@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp ________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 20:44:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04693 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp (nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.85.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA04615 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp (kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.109.10]) by nodamail.noda.sut.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.4W/3.3W9/SUT.NODA-950227) with SMTP id MAA16996 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:44:20 +0900 Received: by kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp (4.2/6.4J.6-04.12) id AA11567; Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:44:16 JST Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:44:16 JST From: Tatsurou MIZUNUMA Message-Id: <9607090344.AA11567@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Mr. My name is Tatsuro Mizunuma, a usr of Free BSD2.1 . Thank you remail for my question , yesterday . I tried as your re-mail , > FreeBSD does indeed have a driver for the 3Com 3C590-COMBO > Network Card. The driver is call 'epX' where X is a number from > 0 to 9. If you have one 3Com 3C590-COMBO card, it is called > ep0. The second would be called ep1. > > To use the UTP port on the card, you need to add '-link2' to the > /sbin/ifconfig command for the card (for example: > /sbin/ifconfig inet 198.35.166.171 link2 netmask 255.255.255.192). but 3C590-combo PCI card is not usable on Free BSD 2.1 . If you have other good idea for this problem , please advice to me ... I'm pleased with your answer of my question. Good by _______________________________________________________________ Science University of Tokyo , Japan Tatsuro Mizunuma e-mail : kitao@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp ________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 20:48:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA05574 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA05542 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00348; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:47:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:47:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Tatsurou MIZUNUMA cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <9607080422.AA09159@kikujiro.me.noda.sut.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Tatsurou MIZUNUMA wrote: > My name is Tatsuro Mizunuma, a usr of Free BSD. > Is there device driver for < 3Com 3C590-COMBO > Network Card ? Yes, in versions after 2.1-RELEASE (-current, the upcoming 2.1.5-RELEASE). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 20:53:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA06668 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nyquist.ee.ualberta.ca (daemon@nyquist.ee.ualberta.ca [129.128.68.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06635 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hacker (async15-1.remote.ualberta.ca) by nyquist.ee.ualberta.ca with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA067954417; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:53:37 -0600 Message-Id: <31E1D90E.59BC@ee.ualberta.ca> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 21:59:10 -0600 From: Marc Novakowski Organization: University of Alberta X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Support for NTFS? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was wondering if there is support for Windows NT filesystem? If not, is there any work being done on it? Thank you.. Marc Novakowski novakow@ee.ualberta.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 21:22:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA10075 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10068 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA17050 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:22:17 GMT Message-Id: <199607090422.EAA17050@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA249266140; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 22:22:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 22:22:20 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: de0 when bt0 is present == much sadness Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gurus: I'm adding a DEC-21041 based PCI Ethernet card (Kingston EtheRx, if you're curious) to a FreeBSD system that has a BusLogic BT-946C PCI SCSI controller. I thought it'd be as simple as adding device de0 to my kernel config and jumping through the usual hoops. Upon reboot, I'm greeted with this new message: de0 rev 17 int a irq 15 on pci0:11 @@@ pcibus_ihandler_attach: result=16 irq 15 already in use. de0: couldn't map interrupt Yay, it found the card! :-) Boo, it can't use it! :-( So, I looked through the pci code and it looks like it's trying to register an interrupt handler for IRQ 15. Problem is, someone already assigned one: the bt0 controller: bt0 at 0x334 irq 15 on isa To test this theory, I rebooted with -c and disabled the bt0. Sure enough, the FreeBSD kernel is a heck of a lot happier when it probes along and gets to de0 ... telling me the station address and other nifty stuff. Then it panics unable to mount the root directory, which makes sense since there's no SCSI controller anymore. What can I do? By the way, why does the other pci irq15 device (vga0) not complain that someone's already using irq15? -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 21:33:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA11151 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11138 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA14239; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:33:27 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA13713; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:35:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:35:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Chuck Robey cc: Tim Vanderhoek , Derek Law , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i have a question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > > On my 2.2-960501-SNAP system here, just listing some of the files on my DOS > > slice will cause all my FreeBSD partitions to become ruined well beyond my > > ability to repair. Maybe a bug in the -SNAP code I didn't hear about. > > Let me get this right: you mounted a dos partition, and when you did an > ls on it, this damaged your FreeBSD partitions? I'd never heard of this > before, I want to get it straight. Yup. I duplicated it a couple times, too. To be fair, I did an ls on several directories. I can't remember if I cat'd a file, but I think one of the times I didn't. Regardless, I'm fairly sure from the various warning I paid no heed to that it happened as soon as I typed `ls' from /dos.... -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 21:51:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA12727 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Menudo.UH.EDU (root@Menudo.UH.EDU [129.7.1.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12702 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from notebook (pasyn-52.rice.edu) by Menudo.UH.EDU with SMTP id AA10075 (5.67b+/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:50:51 -0500 Message-Id: <31E1E4D0.1088@shadowlands.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 23:49:21 -0500 From: Russell Epstein Reply-To: drizzt@shadowlands.com Organization: DarkeMUD X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Multi-processors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD support multi-processors. I run a mud and we just dumped linux and switched to FreeBSD. We need to jump to a faster computer because the one we have can't handle the load. I am really hoping it supports dual-processors :) Thanks Drizzt@shadowlands.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 21:54:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA13145 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pathway1.pathcom.com (pathway1.pathcom.com [204.191.122.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13136 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from revok1.pathcom.com (revok1@ts2l3.pathcom.com [204.191.122.39]) by pathway1.pathcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21756 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E1E588.5179@pathcom.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 00:52:24 -0400 From: revok1 Organization: Black Lotus Society X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP Login Script Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Question Answerer, I am having some difficulty getting FreeBSD to connect to my Internet Provider's UNIX box, and I was wondering if it would be at all possible to receive a sample login script, or even some general guidelines for getting a PPP/SLIP connection up and running. Kind of a tall order, I know. Any help at all, however, is appreciated.... :) Thanks in advance, Robert Medeiros From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 23:13:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA00835 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cloud9int.com (corp.cloud9int.com [38.250.198.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00830 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cloud9int.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Jul 1996 23:15:04 -0700 Message-ID: <31E1F8E2.3DB4@cloud9int.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 23:14:58 -0700 From: "Howard J. Postley" Reply-To: hpostley@cloud9int.com Organization: Cloud 9 Interactive X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: DHCP Support Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to provide a DHCP service from FreeBSD? //hjp Howard J. Postley Cloud 9 Interactive From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 23:36:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03317 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yahanbi.snu.ac.kr (yahanbi.snu.ac.kr [147.46.102.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03279 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sweare@localhost) by yahanbi.snu.ac.kr (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04409 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:34:58 +0900 (KST) From: Chung SoYoung Message-Id: <199607090634.PAA04409@yahanbi.snu.ac.kr> Subject: a question about network card in FreeBSD .. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:34:57 +0900 (KST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21-h4] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I have some problems in using network card in FreeBSD. My network card is Intel EtherExpress Pro. But the current 2.1 version couldn't recognize that card. Someone told me 2.1-960627-SNAP version would recognize that card , so I downloaded the kernel files from ftp.freebsd.org and I booted my pc. But It didn't work. Everytime I boot my pc, the i/o address of that card changes from 300h to 210h(I set the address 300h). If you know the answer please help me... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 8 23:45:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04714 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rolta.com (firewall-user@gatekeeper.rolta.com [165.113.135.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04693 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rolta.com; id BAA04214; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:32:15 -0500 Received: from 68f800.rolta.com(204.177.195.25) by gatekeeper.rolta.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma004204; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:31:46 -0500 Received: by 68f800.rolta.com (5.65c/1.920109) id AA02680; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:12:14 GMT From: vdongre@rolta.com (Vrushal Dongre) Message-Id: <199607091212.AA02680@68f800.rolta.com> Subject: another ELM question To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:12:09 IST X-Mailer: ELM [version 07.00.00.00 (2.3 PL11)] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello All ! I have another question regarding ELM. When I send mail using ELM i get the following messages ( randomly ... in the sense sometimes i get the messages, sometimes i don't ) :- sendmail [xxx]:NOQUEUE:SYSERR(username):before readcf :fd 1 not open : Bad file descriptor xxx is a number like 184, 294 etc username is the sender's name. Can anyone tell me what is going on ? I have FBSD 2.0 running on a mailserver & i have complied ELM 2.4 on it. I have compiled ELM with the following options in " config.h " file /*#define USE_FLOCK_LOCKING */ /**/ #define USE_DOTLOCK_LOCKING /**/ #define USE_FCNTL_LOCKING /**/ #define LOCK_DIR "/var/spool/lock" /**/ ( i have commented out FLOCK LOCKING . this has helped me to get rid of the problem where ELM tries to read the mailbox & times out after 7 iterations ) Help is greatly appreciated. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vrushal Dongre Email: vdongre@rolta.com " Nothing, is the worst thing that can happen to anybody " -Richard Bach ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 00:28:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA09932 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09927 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA18954; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:28:29 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA29388; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:30:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:30:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: "Jeffrey M. and Sonya C. Metcalf" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Increase swap space? In-Reply-To: <31E19354.4097@imagine.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Jeffrey M. and Sonya C. Metcalf wrote: > Do you feel that I should increase swap space to get the optimal > benefit from my new RAM upgrade? If so, is there a way to do this Run `swapinfo' every so often and see what you get. You can also install a utility such as `top'. The ports even has some nift X tool that will make a little graph of the various loads on your system...Personally, I'm not much one for graphs, though. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 00:31:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA10294 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freewill.tu-graz.ac.at (freewill.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.193.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA10288 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from erewan@localhost) by freewill.tu-graz.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA03806; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:30:59 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:30:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erwin Stampfer X-Sender: erewan@freewill.tu-graz.ac.at To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Stampfer@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have problems with installing FreeBSD on my computer (that is: 486 DX 2, 4 MB RAM, Seagate HD with 420 MB of storage.) During the boot process a page fault error occurs. (page fault - page not present.). I do not know how to deal with that. Please help me. Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 00:48:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12081 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12076 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misterx.ix.netcom.com (stl-mo4-24.ix.netcom.com [204.31.116.152]) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA12371 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:47:54 -0700 Message-ID: <31E19001.4F74@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 02:47:29 +0400 From: "Mr.X" Reply-To: defrag@ix.netcom.com Organization: Conspiracy Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How can i get A copy of the cd rom FreeBsd? When I was trying to download, I coudnt find where the freebsd was please help. -- _____ ____ ___ / \_______ \ \/ / ______ / \ / \_ __ \ \ / ______ /_____/ / Y \ | \/ / \ /_____/ \____|__ /__| /\/___/\ \ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=- \/-=-=-=-=\/-=-=-=\_/-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- \\|// (o-o) [mister.x@ix.netcom.com] -=-=-=-=---.oOO--(_)--OOo.---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "In wartime, truth is so precious that it should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." - Winston Churchill From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 00:51:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12354 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freewill.tu-graz.ac.at (freewill.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.193.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12348 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from erewan@localhost) by freewill.tu-graz.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA03909; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:51:17 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:51:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erwin Stampfer X-Sender: erewan@freewill.tu-graz.ac.at To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have some problems with the installation of FreeBSD on my computer (that is: 486 DX 2, 66 Mhz, 4 MB of RAM, Seagate HD with 420 MB). During the boot process an error occurs (page fault. page not present.) I do not know how to deal with that. Would you please give me a hint. Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 00:56:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12871 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12761 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA12743; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:51:14 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607090951.JAA12743@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: help To: erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Erwin Stampfer) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:51:14 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Erwin Stampfer at "Jul 9, 96 09:30:59 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I have problems with installing FreeBSD on my computer (that is: 486 DX 2, > 4 MB RAM, Seagate HD with 420 MB of storage.) During the boot process ^^^^ Your problem is here ! Try to install with the "boot4"-floppy or use more RAM to install. After the installation your system should run with 4Mb . > a page fault error occurs. (page fault - page not present.). I do not > know how to deal with that. Please help me. > > Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at > > Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 01:03:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA13495 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com ([134.129.252.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA13477; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA04680; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:04:08 -0500 To: "Gary Palmer" Cc: Jaye Mathisen , David Greenman , Network Coordinator , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. References: <24878.836847492@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Zach Heilig Date: 09 Jul 1996 03:04:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Gary Palmer"'s message of Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:38:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87687xam4p.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Gary Palmer" writes: [ I wrote about noticing a drop from 1.4-1.5K/sec on binary to .57K/sec on binary files ] > Weird. I've been running iijppp for over a year now, and have been > upgrading regularly, and on a 28k8 I can get 5k/sec (text) download > relatively easily (with the latest version in -stable). I wonder if > this has to do with the box you are talking to? I should have noted that I was transfering binary files. I always seemed to get 2.0-3.0K/sec on text, though I don't transfer much raw text (I compress it first, since I >assume< that gzip does better than any internal modem compression, I have no way to actually check). I also took a look at what really was on the other side, compared to what I have. I have a U.S. Robotics Sportster 14.4K modem, the machine directly on the other side is a U.S. Robotics Total Control (tm) NETServer 8/16, according to the login prompt. That is connected through a LAN to a router to the rest of the internet. The machine I was transferring from is on the same LAN (It is a 10Mbps ethernet for sure, it appears to be strictly TCP/IP). I noticed the slowdown the moment I ftp'd something after installing the upgraded iijppp. I also noticed the speed up right after I inserted those lines into my ppp.conf file. -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited >commercial< email is subject to a $100 proof-reading fee. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 01:04:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA13590 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merkur.sds.no (merkur.sds.no [139.105.129.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA13565 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by merkur.sds.no (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA03734; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:03:20 +0200 Message-Id: <31E2125B.2AC5@merkur.sds.no> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 10:03:39 +0200 From: "Frode K. Fausa" Organization: Statens Datasentral a.s X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Boot manager X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I am wondering where I can get information on how to get rid off the Boot Manager that FreeBSD installs by choice? I did the mistake of installing it. I would also appreciate it if you direct me to information on UNinstalling FreeBSD. Yours sincerely Frode K. Fausa From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 01:05:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA13735 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA13345 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udXkG-000QgiC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 10:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA09789; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:47:36 +0200 Message-Id: <199607090747.JAA09789@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Deleting a tree To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:47:36 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199607081959.QAA28587@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at Jul 8, 96 04:59:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica writes: > > Hi Greg: > > Sorry about the confusion. My question is: sometimes you want to > remove an application you installed. For example: /usr/local/sendmail. > I want to remove the sub-directory sendmail and all it's contents, without > going into sendmail, deleting the files and after going into all of the > subdirectories of sendmail, deleting all the files. I checked rmdir man > page and seems to me that you only can remove an EMPTY directory. If there is > a single file inside this directory, you have to go there, delete the file > first, step out, and then you can remove the directory. But it sometimes > is tedious. If the directory has 10 sub-directories inside it, you have to > remove one by one, by hand! I though of a script, that can recurse into the > directory you selected and remove the files inside it, and after remove the > directory itself. OK. You don't need a script. I gave you the answer for that: # rm -rf /usr/local/sendmail The -r option says "recursively descend into subdirectories and delete them". The -f option says "don't ask questions". > I know that, if you remove the directory only, the files will be there, > in the disk. I wonder if there's a script that can, recursively remove > all the contents of the directory you selected and any sub-directory it > might have, and after that remove the directory itself. (Like Deltree,in DOS). > >> >> Whichever it is, you haven't made your request clear. Do you make a >> distinction between archives and files? > > Yes. Sorry, this time I didn't make myself clear. *How* do you distinguish between archives and files? In UNIX, an archive is just a special kind of file. In this example, I still don't understand. Are you referring to the archives you used for installation, outside the trees you're deleting? Of course they won't be deleted. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 01:10:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA14325 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com ([134.129.252.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA14300; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA04696; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:11:01 -0500 To: "Gary Palmer" Cc: Jaye Mathisen , Network Coordinator , freebsd-questions@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing FTP thruput. References: <25014.836849490@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Zach Heilig Date: 09 Jul 1996 03:11:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Gary Palmer"'s message of Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:11:30 +0100 Message-ID: <874tnhalt7.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Gary Palmer" writes: > My POINT was that I have not noticed a slowdown, as if binary transfer > rates have dropped off for some reason, then (I would have thought) > text rates would have too... I just didn't have any binary rates to > hand at the time as I tend to throw text around a lot more than > binary. As far as I can tell, text transfers did not drop, only binary ones, until I disabled those couple of options, now it seems to be very slight bit faster than before, +.1K/sec on transfers, and the link is also mostly usable for interactive use (feels like about 1200 baud though) with a small impact on transfer rate. -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited >commercial< email is subject to a $100 proof-reading fee. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 01:13:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA14767 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freewill.tu-graz.ac.at (freewill.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.193.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA14747 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from erewan@localhost) by freewill.tu-graz.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA03985; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:08:23 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:08:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erwin Stampfer X-Sender: erewan@freewill.tu-graz.ac.at To: Werner Griessl cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: <199607090951.JAA12743@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Mr Griessl! Thank you for your immediate reply. There is only one problem remaining now. On our Mirror-Site a boot4 floppy does not exist. Would you please give me further information Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: > > > > I have problems with installing FreeBSD on my computer (that is: 486 DX 2, > > 4 MB RAM, Seagate HD with 420 MB of storage.) During the boot process > ^^^^ > Your problem is here ! > Try to install with the "boot4"-floppy or use more RAM to install. > After the installation your system should run with 4Mb . > > > a page fault error occurs. (page fault - page not present.). I do not > > know how to deal with that. Please help me. > > > > Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at > > > > > Werner > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 01:38:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA18234 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA18213 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA00637; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:33:26 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607091033.KAA00637@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: help To: erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Erwin Stampfer) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:33:26 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Erwin Stampfer at "Jul 9, 96 10:08:23 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Thank you for your immediate reply. There is only one problem remaining > now. On our Mirror-Site a boot4 floppy does not exist. Would you please > give me further information > > Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at > Unfortunately I found no boot4.flp for 2.1.0-Release (is this the version you tried to install ?) In this situation you have 3 choices: 1) more RAM 2) wait for the upcoming 2.1.5-Release ( in a few days ) 3) Install the latest 2.1-SNAP ( it includes a boot4-floppy) Werner P.S.: In every case: every serious FreeBSD with 4 MB of ram will be nearly unusable ( only my $0.02) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 02:12:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21334 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21321 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id LAA07450; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:59:35 +0300 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:59:35 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: MR REGGIE H KNAPP cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot manager In-Reply-To: <199607071743.NAA27624@mime4.prodigy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, MR REGGIE H KNAPP wrote: > I have Windows 95 installed and it is using nearly all of drive C. I > have a new drive that is at present unknow to Windows. I intend to > use this drive for FreeBSD and perhaps other OSes. I assume I need > to get the Boot Manager on to the beginning of drive C, but intend to > tell the FreeBSD install program to use only the second (drive D) > disk. Will the boot manager be placed on drive C automatically? > That depends. What you should do (I remember it once worked for me but I'm not absolutly sure...) is to tell the BSD installation to use both disks, but don't change any partition information on the first disk. After you leave the partition editor, you'll be presented with the boot manager option for each disk separately. You can then have it istalled on the first disk as well. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 02:15:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21514 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyburbia.bns.com.au (cyburbia.bns.com.au [203.19.43.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21498 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.bns.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by cyburbia.bns.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05864 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:44:34 +0930 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:44:34 +0930 (CST) From: Justin Viiret X-Sender: justin@cyburbia.bns.com.au To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Java and Jigsaw Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk G'day everyone... Does anyone know if there's a FreeBSD Java interpreter stable enough to handle the W3C's new Jigsaw server? I've played with both Kaffe and the JDK 1.0 port and had very limited success (Kaffe coredumps regardless of what I try to do with it, even the HelloWorld test program included with it). I get the following output from Jigsaw with the JDK: # /usr/local/jdk/bin/java w3c.jigsaw.http.httpd -root /usr/local/Jigsaw/Jigsaw loading properties from: /usr/local/Jigsaw/Jigsaw/config/httpd.props [httpd]: listening at:http://cyburbia.bns.com.au:9999 Segmentation fault (core dumped) The system's a FreeBSD 2.1.0-951104 SNAP on a P100 box ... has anyone managed to get it up an running or knows what could be causing these problems? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Justin Viiret Cyburbia Network Services justin@cyburbia.net.au Co-sysadmin and busy guy http://cyburbia.net.au/~justin/ Voice: 08-379-2492 -------------------[Relax, they're only ones and zeroes]--------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 02:21:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21841 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21703 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:19 MEST Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id ; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:19 MET DST Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17169; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:13:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:13:47 +0200 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9607090913.AA17169@wavehh.hanse.de> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handling time after 1999 Newsgroups: hanse-ml.freebsd.questions References: <199607081608.AA066302128@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Reply-To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I have been asked to look into what other unix kernel groups are planning >> to do to address problems with time when the year 2000 arrives. >Most probably nothing. About 1 or 2 moths ago a number of fixes for "standard" tools were commited to NetBSD. Most of them used time_t, but introduced bugs when reading and write time values. It might be worth looking at for FreeBSD's equivalents. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.bik-gmbh.de/~cracauer Where do you want to go today? Hard to tell running your calendar on a junk OS, eh? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 02:25:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA22090 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail0.iij.ad.jp (root@mail0.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA22081 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucp1.iij.ad.jp (uucp1.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.73]) by mail0.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-MAIL) with ESMTP id SAA04999 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:25:05 +0900 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp1.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-UUCP) with UUCP id SAA20895 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:25:04 +0900 Received: from xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp by yyy.kgc.co.jp (8.7.5/3.4W:95122611) id SAA11269; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:04:18 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost by xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp (8.6.12/3.3W8:95062916) id SAA01318; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:04:18 +0900 Message-Id: <199607090904.SAA01318@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: getty(8) don't show `login:' prompt X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.2, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 18:04:17 +0900 From: Toshihiro Kanda Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm using FreeBSD 2.1R. I wanted to login via modem, but got difficulty... Getty didn't show `login:' to remote terminal. After a short hacking /usr/src/libexec/getty/, I found a delay fixes this problem. -------8<---------------8<---------------8<-------- *** main.c.orig Tue Jul 9 17:25:31 1996 --- main.c Tue Jul 9 17:24:54 1996 *************** *** 176,181 **** --- 176,184 ---- sleep(60); } login_tty(i); + #if 1 /* XXX Need delay to continue... I don't know why */ + sleep(1); + #endif } } -------8<---------------8<---------------8<-------- Anybody know better solution? candy@fct.kgc.co.jp (Toshihiro Kanda) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 02:27:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA22364 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com ([134.129.252.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA22303; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA05027; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:28:25 -0500 To: Garrett Wollman Cc: James Raynard , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What's up with ownership? References: <87n31da1pa.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> <199607062246.WAA03437@jraynard.demon.co.uk> <9607081500.AA03598@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> From: Zach Heilig Date: 09 Jul 1996 04:28:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: Garrett Wollman's message of Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:00:39 -0400 Message-ID: <873f31ai87.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 69 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Garrett Wollman writes: > It's worth explaining why this is the Right Thing. Say John and Jane > are working on a project together. To make file-sharing easier, they > create a group, `jjproj', and a directory, `/home/jjproj', mode > ug=rwx,o=rx, owner `root', group `jjproj', and agree to use a umask of > 002. My real problem isn't with files being created with a gid the same as the parent directory, at least after I thought it through a bit. It is really with an extraneous warning from mv(1) while trying to preserve that gid (which, in this case, you are not a member of) in some other directory. The only time I think it would be appropriate for mv(1) to complain that it can't preserve the gid is when either the group write and/or setgid bits are set. It should complain about not preserving the uid when the setuid bit is set. In either case, neither the setuid or the setgid bits should be preserved. mv(1) will currently retain the setuid bit no matter what the situation. > Consider by contrast the BSD model. John creates `/home/jjproj/foo', > and it automatically belongs to the same group as is able to write to > the `/home/jjproj' directory in the first place, which is exactly the > right thing. Rather than introduce warts to selectively enable this > behavior depending on some random selection of circumstances, BSD > simply applies this model consistently throughout the filesystem, even > in places where it is not obviously useful. The problem, I think, is really mv, not the system. BTW, I did find a real bug in mv, and a potential security hole (which is why I cross-mailed it to security). I think this only works if the two directories are on different filesystems. Try this on your machine: Script started on Tue Jul 9 03:50:45 1996 $ whoami user1 $ pwd /usr/home/user1 $ mkdir foo $ chmod 777 foo $ cd foo $ touch bar $ chmod 6755 bar $ ls -l bar -rwsr-sr-x 1 user1 user 0 Jul 9 03:51 bar $ exit Script done on Tue Jul 9 03:51:14 1996 Script started on Tue Jul 9 03:51:24 1996 $ whoami user2 $ cd /tmp $ mv ~user1/foo/bar . mv: ./bar: set owner/group: Operation not permitted mv: ./bar: set mode: Operation not permitted $ ls -l bar -rwsr-xr-x 1 user2 wheel 0 Jul 9 03:51 bar $ exit Script done on Tue Jul 9 03:51:39 1996 Since mv cannot preserve the uid, it SHOULD NOT preserve the setuid bit. I sent a problem report for this one. I unfortunately removed all the base sources from my machine since 2.1.5-RELEASE should be out soon. -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited >commercial< email is subject to a $100 proof-reading fee. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 02:57:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA24419 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA24411 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alterego.stack.urc.tue.nl (root@alterego.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.141.160]) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.5) with ESMTP id LAA07979 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:57:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from xaa@localhost) by alterego.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA00275 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:57:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mark Huizer Message-Id: <199607090957.LAA00275@alterego.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: scsi super device To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:57:17 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is this lovely scsi super device that is mentioned in some man pages, but does not exist in any kernel code? :-() I'm trying to change a machine in a scsi changermachine, where ppl can plug in their scsi discs externally, reprobe and use them. but there is no scsi device available to reprobe against. the scsi man page mentions /dev/scsi/super, but it isn't there Is there another way to get through to the kernel reprobing system? Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Mark Huizer - xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl - rcbamh@urc.tue.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - When I was in school, I cheated in my metaphysics exam: I looked - - into the soul of the boy next to me (Woody Allen) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 02:57:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA24448 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zaraza.bofh.org.il (root@zaraza.bofh.org.il [192.115.153.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA24443 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zaraza.bofh.org.il (sgt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaraza.bofh.org.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08886; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:57:26 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <199607091057.MAA08886@zaraza.bofh.org.il> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: MR REGGIE H KNAPP Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot manager In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jul 1996 11:59:35 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==!Exmh_1134065604P"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 12:57:24 +0200 From: Sergei Barbarash Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --==!Exmh_1134065604P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, MR REGGIE H KNAPP wrote: > > > I have Windows 95 installed and it is using nearly all of drive C. I > > have a new drive that is at present unknow to Windows. I intend to > > use this drive for FreeBSD and perhaps other OSes. I assume I need > > to get the Boot Manager on to the beginning of drive C, but intend to > > tell the FreeBSD install program to use only the second (drive D) > > disk. Will the boot manager be placed on drive C automatically? > > > > That depends. What you should do (I remember it once worked for me but > I'm not absolutly sure...) is to tell the BSD installation to use both > disks, but don't change any partition information on the first disk. > After you leave the partition editor, you'll be presented with the boot > manager option for each disk separately. You can then have it istalled on > the first disk as well. Or even simpler - get the booteasy package from ftp://ftp.freebsd.com/pub/FreeB SD/2.1.0-RELEASE/tools/dist/bteasy17.zip and install it on your Windoze partition (it installs the same boot manager FreeBSD uses, only it's a DOS program). Have fun, -- ============================================================================ Sergei Barbarash WWW: http://www.netmedia.net.il/sgt/ NetMedia International, System Administrator & Programmer ================== Office: +972-2-795860; Home: +972-2-664779 ================================= --==!Exmh_1134065604P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQEVAwUBMeI7EPU11OVh4P5FAQExlAf/WMNT/QO63tXOSyfqCwCqbD+EegptV0wl wpQauuaSE+xVI4RqHEaUCNHY0wvKWYT3fby8CPFU1vUtMYQcP5GMUOpbm2Kbwe2P 0A3/FlaU72iZYTc7pJSBmks4aJx4bTfDNUYgx8epfkn0mJnsrknt8VUsZT6wLNfM T8GUwoNXm1H2CmpzckFUa0HEkynkyuL1DVrqID2nTtlvY8xjw5PeMvfClzSoBW3i zs1UVwgICca3h9xLQTv3ATr8pdYxbGItQEhRIoO5okMDnwhXNjKGFDPKF5SJCjEZ YLCxajnS3dkNgjCG+hU26UTEbbNyvyALLbsusAQ8eiznvmQGON7Zag== =xRY7 -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --==!Exmh_1134065604P-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 03:02:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA24715 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from escape.cs.ibank.ru (escape.cs.ibank.ru [194.58.131.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA24482 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from igor@localhost) by escape.cs.ibank.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3/Zynaps) id NAA28123 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:57:31 +0400 (MSD) From: Igor Vinokurov Message-Id: <199607090957.NAA28123@escape.cs.ibank.ru> Subject: Samba FS planned to implement? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:57:30 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk re, smbclient - cool but interactive. :) -- Igor Vinokurov From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 03:17:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA25656 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chizuru.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (chizuru.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA25641 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (lavender.rad.cc.keio.ac.jp [131.113.11.115]) by chizuru.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.1W-2.8compat) with ESMTP id TAA26710; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:17:40 +0900 Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.7.5/3.4Wbeta5) id TAA00672; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:17:37 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199607091017.TAA00672@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: "Howard J. Postley" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: re:DHCP Support X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 19:17:37 +0900 From: MIHIRA Yoshiro Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. >Is there a way to provide a DHCP service from FreeBSD? Yes. wide-dhcp server is in ports-collection. yours Yoshiro MIHIRA Keio Univ. Japan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 03:46:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA27281 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA27244 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nadt.org.uk by eros.britain.eu.net with UUCP id ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:45:21 +0100 Received: from infodev (infodev.nadt.org.uk [194.155.224.205]) by charlie.nadt.org.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA15174 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:18:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:18:16 +0100 Posted-Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:18:16 +0100 Message-Id: <199607091018.LAA15174@charlie.nadt.org.uk> X-Sender: robmel@mailhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Robin Melville Subject: 2.1.5 Stable and rpc.lockd Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBSD people, We've now turned our whole site over to FreeBSD and are delighted with it. We use our FreeBSD hosts for NFS, email, in-house database applications, and an HTTP "intranet" and development area for our external web presence. Because this is a clinical organisation it's important we have good availability, so we have opted to await your official releases rather than tracking ongoing work. Our question is about 2.1.5 RELEASE versus the imminent(?) 2.2 RELEASE. We understand from several correspondents that a working version of rpc.lockd is under development on the -current branch. Obviously this is of importance to us given our NFS requirement. Does the -stable release contain the rpc.lockd implementation, or should we wait for 2.2? Many thanks for your help. Best regards, Robin. -------------------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Addiction & Forensic Information Service Nottingham Healthcare NHS Trust Vox: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 Email: robmel@nadt.org.uk WWW: http://www.innotts.co.uk/nadt/ -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 03:47:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA27421 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA27412 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 03:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA02137; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:44:18 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607091244.MAA02137@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: help To: erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Erwin Stampfer) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:44:18 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Erwin Stampfer at "Jul 9, 96 10:42:18 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Thank you very much. > You are welcome Werner > Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at > > On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: > > > > Thank you for your immediate reply. There is only one problem remaining > > > now. On our Mirror-Site a boot4 floppy does not exist. Would you please > > > give me further information > > > > > > Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at > > > > > > > Unfortunately I found no boot4.flp for 2.1.0-Release (is this the version > > you tried to install ?) > > In this situation you have 3 choices: > > 1) more RAM > > 2) wait for the upcoming 2.1.5-Release ( in a few days ) > > 3) Install the latest 2.1-SNAP ( it includes a boot4-floppy) > > > > Werner > > > > P.S.: In every case: every serious FreeBSD with 4 MB of ram > > will be nearly unusable ( only my $0.02) > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 04:05:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA28946 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (viking.ucsalf.ac.uk [192.195.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA28934 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0udab4-000370C; Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:04 BST Message-Id: From: mark@plato.ucsalf.ac.uk (Mark Powell) Subject: Re: Root filesystem on NFS, Linux style ??? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 9 Jul 1996 12:04:45 +0100 X-Gated-To-News-By: news@ucsalf.ac.uk Xref: viking.ucsalf.ac.uk list.freebsd.chat:603 list.freebsd.questions:6986 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:22146 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <4rmfqt$fe2@theatre.pandora.sax.de>, Martin Welk wrote: >In article <4r81kk$ovg@plato.ucsalf.ac.uk>, >Mark Powell wrote: > >> Linux allows a kernel to be booted from DOS and then perform it's own RARP >>to find it's IP and root filesystem over NFS. FreeBSD only seems to allow this >>with the netboot.(com|rom) program (albeit using BOOTP.) We use this here to >>allow users to turn their PC into an X terminal be selecting an option from >>our DOS menu system. We currently do it with Linux. However, I'd prefer to >>do it with FreeBSD, for obvious reasons. NETNOOT.COM does not work >>if there is already a network driver loaded, as there is in our case. >>Is there anything afoot allow the kernel to be configured with some of >>the netboot.com functionality into the kernel? > >I experienced that QEMM screws up when running NETBOOT, so I simply >created a boot menu under MS-DOS 6.22 and let people choose it at >boot time - no network driver conflicts, no memory manager conflicts. Yeah, but I currently do this with Linux. The user's can simply select an option from our PC LAN menu system. FreeBSD can't do this, AFAIK. -- Mark Powell - Senior Network Technician - Room: C806 Computer Services Unit, University College Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 745 3376 Fax: +44 161 736 3596 Email: mark@ucsalf.ac.uk finger mark@ucsalf.ac.uk (for PGP key) Home Page From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 04:10:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA29299 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA29268 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA02371; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:05:39 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607091305.NAA02371@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:05:39 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607082245.PAA22749@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jul 8, 96 03:45:59 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Never heard of it. Give me some info and I will take a look. > > > > It's in our ports tree in "ports/x11/xforms" ! > > > > > I have to admit the tcl/tk is pretty bizarre stuff, but it's > > > quick and is becoming pretty common. > > > > I saw the discussion during the weekend. > > It's a GUI-toolkit-library including an interactive GUI-builder (fdesign). > > It would be useful for a X-frontend. > > An X-frontend for the type of admin tools we have been discussing needs > to be dynamically assembleable from parts so that the front end software > can be written once and never modified for a multitude of tools. > For example with "system"-calls to the tools . Werner > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 04:30:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA00476 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA00468 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA23542; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:29:40 GMT Received: from buffnet7.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa03981; 9 Jul 96 7:32 EDT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:32:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephenn Hovey To: Fair pay cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with 3th SCSI-2 HDD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You sure that the drive that is terminated is the one at the end of the cable? On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Fair pay wrote: > Hello, > > there is a big problem (at least for me) with SCSI HDDs. > > There is a PC with Adaptec AIC-7850 on motherboard and FreeBSD 2.1.0. > There are three HDDs attached to the SCSI-2 bus: > ID > ---------------------------- > 0 Conner CFP1080S (SCSI terminated) > 1 Quantum Lightning 540S (SCSI not terminated) > 2 Conner CFP2105S (SCSI not terminated) > 7 AIC-7850 (SCSI terminated) > > When FreeBSD 2.1 is booted (I booted by means of install.bat/inst_ide.bat > under DOS), it detects ahc0, waits "SCSI deviced to settle", then shows > list of disks' data, and then about 10-15 copies of the string > "ahc0 WARNING no command for scb 0" > and goes to reboot. > > When the HDD with ID 2 is detached from the bus (by removing cabling), > FreeBSD boots ok. Besides this I tried to insert/remove terminators > on the HDD, but the problem persists. > > The HDD with ID 2 was installed yesterday and there ar 3 partitions > on it, first one is used by OS/2, on second one NT is installed. The > HDD workes fine under those OS. So the hardware configuration seems > to be proper. > > Could you please provide any possible solutions for the problem ? > > Thanks in advance. Dima. > -- > Dmitry Solodov > E-mail: dima@irs.riga.lv | fax. +371-7287659 > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 04:39:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA01070 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cr-df.rnp.br (jazz.cr-df.rnp.br [200.6.48.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA01061 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp4.cr-df.rnp.br by cr-df.rnp.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25730; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:35:18 EST Message-Id: <31E27CFB.589D@cr-df.rnp.gov.br> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 08:38:35 -0700 From: Euclides Reply-To: prdf@cr-df.rnp.gov.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: WWW-Counter... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone here have a cool WWW-counter ? I got the WW-counter1.2 and installed it on my Free. It works, but cannot load the images files. It seems it´s using the GD library, but I don´t know if I have it. Does anyone know where my I find it for the Free ? Does anyone have another one ? Thanks, Alex Carlos From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 05:48:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04729 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 05:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04721 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 05:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-2.ime.net [206.231.148.131]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA27436; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E254E8.65@ime.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 08:47:36 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert CC: "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deleting a tree References: <199607082304.QAA22830@phaeton.artisoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > > There's a way to delete a directory tree, without deleting all the > > archives inside it ? Maybe a script file? > > What do you mean "without deleting all the archives inside it"? > > A directory is a container object. To delete it, it must be empty. > If it is not empty, you can not delete it. > > I don't understand what you are trying to delete. > Terry, I _think_ he is trying to do: rm -rd tree I belive he is just miss stating what it is that he wants. In an earlier messages he was shown a command to delete a EMPTY tree structure, It failed because it had files in it! He didn't want to go into each directory and delete the files before deleteing the tree. Although I may be wrong. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 05:57:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA05295 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 05:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA05290 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 05:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atka.feut.utoronto.ca ([142.150.33.89]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <801013(2)>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:57:16 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960709125713.006dccd4@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca> X-Sender: martin.loeffler@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:57:13 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Martin Loeffler Subject: forcing a modem to hangup Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running freebsd2.1 and using PPP to connect to the net. I have a problem in that if the machine crashes and reboots, the modem stays connected and PPP can't get ahold of it to re-dial. Is there anything that I can put in rc.local to force a hangup before ppp tries to dial, or is there an option I've missed in /etc/ppp/options to tell the modem to hangup when ppp terminates, or is it too early in the morning to think about these things? Thanks very much. M. -- "Let x=x" Martin Loeffler, Curator of Computing Technology TEL Centre, Faculty of Education, University of Toronto martin.loeffler@utoronto.cao.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 06:01:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05472 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvercom.cica.fr (silvercom.cica.fr [192.70.34.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA05465 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvercom1.ens.ecp.fr (silvercom1.ens.ecp.fr [138.195.50.86]) by silvercom.cica.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00377 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:02:23 +0200 Message-ID: <31E25831.7C72@silvercom.cica.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 15:01:37 +0200 From: Olivier Siegwart Reply-To: olivier@silvercom.cica.fr Organization: Silvercom Multimedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail configuration Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyboby ! I've installed sendmail as STMP agent as I installed FreeBSD. My machine is called silvercom.cica.fr, hostname silvercom When I send mail to web@silvercom.cica.fr all is ok Then I have an alias in the DNS : www.silvercom.com and silvercom.cica.fr have got the same IP address. When I send a mail to web@www.silvercom.com I get the mail back with the following error : """"""""" The original message was received at Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:06:25 +0200 from silvercom1.ens.ecp.fr [138.195.50.86] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 silvercom.cica.fr config error: mail loops back to myself 554 ... Local configuration error """"""""" Can someone help me to configure sendmail.cf so tha I can receive mail with both address web@silvercm.cica.fr and web@www.silvercom.com Please Help (SOS) Olivier Siegwart Silvercom Multimedia From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 06:02:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05504 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [206.196.133.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05499 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com (egate.mnet.uswest.com [151.116.23.138]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA09013 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA14858 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:02:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15872; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:02:10 -0500 Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15831; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:01:58 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA14468; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:01:49 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199607091301.IAA14468@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: SyQuest device drivers for FreeBSD 2.0 To: swingers@cyberswinger.com (technodude) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:01:49 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E1A11B.7901@cyberswinger.com> from "technodude" at Jul 8, 96 05:00:27 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, technodude said: > > I have read a few discussions on SyQuest drives for 2.0, > but don't really know where to obtain the drivers for them. > > Can anyone help me out? > > -please reply to marc@cyberswinger.com You don't need them, if your SyQuest is SCSI. It comes right up. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com "God willing... we shall return." -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 06:28:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA07009 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cube.i-pi.com (cube.i-pi.com [198.49.217.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA07001 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ingham@localhost) by cube.i-pi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA03338; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:27:42 -0600 Message-Id: <199607091327.HAA03338@cube.i-pi.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Kenneth Ingham Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:27:40 -0600 To: revok1 Subject: Re: PPP Login Script cc: questions@freebsd.org References: <31E1E588.5179@pathcom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here's the login script that I use: ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' '' AT OK-ATQ2-OK ATE0L0M0N0Q2V1X5&B1&C1&D3&H3&J0&K4&L0&M0&N0&R1&S1&Y1*E1*Q2 OK ATS0=1S2=128S18=2S20=2S38=0 OK-AT-OK ATDT2759513 CONNECT '' in:--in: UserName word: Password Replace UserName and Password with appropriate values for your ISP. The modem initialization string is for a Zyxel Elite 2864; your modem probably needs a different initialization. Kenneth Ingham From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 06:34:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA07349 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA07343 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA03426; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:34:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607091334.JAA03426@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: de0 when bt0 is present == much sadness To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607090422.EAA17050@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Jul 8, 96 10:22:20 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Gurus: > > I'm adding a DEC-21041 based PCI Ethernet card (Kingston EtheRx, if > you're curious) to a FreeBSD system that has a BusLogic BT-946C PCI > SCSI controller. I thought it'd be as simple as adding > > device de0 > > to my kernel config and jumping through the usual hoops. Upon reboot, > I'm greeted with this new message: > > de0 rev 17 int a irq 15 on pci0:11 > @@@ pcibus_ihandler_attach: result=16 > irq 15 already in use. > de0: couldn't map interrupt > > Yay, it found the card! :-) > Boo, it can't use it! :-( > > So, I looked through the pci code and it looks like it's trying to > register an interrupt handler for IRQ 15. Problem is, someone already > assigned one: the bt0 controller: > > bt0 at 0x334 irq 15 on isa This is weird ... one shouldn't assign specific IRQ to the driver IMO . Take a look at /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC at your PC. I've had enough of these combos - de0 + bt0, they all wroked fine. Check your BIOS setup for IRQs given to PCI subsystem ( slots). Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 06:54:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA08383 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08378 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 06:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA03520; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:54:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607091354.JAA03520@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: Pentium Pro 200 To: chrisl@bbs.justcompute.com (Chris Lavin) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607081324.JAA04237@only.justcompute.com> from "Chris Lavin" at Jul 8, 96 09:21:56 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Does freeBsd take FULL advantage of the Pentium Pro Proccessor?..Should I > go that route or what?..I am currently running a couple of 133 Mhz Pentium > systems and I don't knwo whether I should Bump them up!!!! Any Advice > would be greatly appreciated.. Certain efforts are being made to include PPro specific optimization into gcc . I'm not sure how stable it is now , but in any case buying PPro vs Pentium system has a lots a sense - even with "regular" binaries perfomance is much higher. Pentiums will be obsolete pretty soon IMO. Be sure to avoid buying PPro system with PCI chipset bug - browse arhives at comp.sys.intel or FreeBSD newsgroups and/or mailing lists to get more details. > > Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 07:00:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08675 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08670 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18700; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:00:27 GMT Message-Id: <199607091400.OAA18700@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA257660832; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:00:32 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:00:32 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: rashid@rk.ios.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607091334.JAA03426@rk.ios.com> (message from Rashid Karimov on Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:34:10 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: de0 when bt0 is present == much sadness Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Rashid" == Rashid Karimov writes: Rashid> This is weird ... one shouldn't assign specific IRQ to Rashid> the driver IMO . Take a look at /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC at Rashid> your PC. I didn't assign an IRQ to bt0. And, just for fun, I tried booting with the GENERIC kernel from the 2.1.0R boot floppy and it suffered from the same problem. Upon probing bt0, it assigns a handler for IRQ15. Then, upon probing de0, it complains that a handler's already assigned. Rashid> I've had enough of these combos - de0 + bt0, they all Rashid> wroked fine. Check your BIOS setup for IRQs given to PCI Rashid> subsystem ( slots). That they worked for you does inspire hope for me. Were your bt0's the PCI version? Anyway, my CMOS isn't that great (Phoenix)---it allows me to set the IRQ for the three PCI slots (currently set at 15) and set which slots are masters or slaves, device latency, and whether to enable the slot. Other ideas? -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 07:39:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA11401 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA11393 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA06920; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:39:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:39:54 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607091439.AA06920@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Sean Kelly Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: de0 when bt0 is present == much sadness In-Reply-To: <199607090422.EAA17050@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> References: <199607090422.EAA17050@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > de0 rev 17 int a irq 15 on pci0:11 > @@@ pcibus_ihandler_attach: result=16 > irq 15 already in use. > de0: couldn't map interrupt > Yay, it found the card! :-) > Boo, it can't use it! :-( You need to go into your BIOS setup and inform it that it is not allowed to use IRQ 15 for PCI devices. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 07:41:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA11565 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA11558 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA06890; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:41:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:41:41 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607091441.AA06890@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Sean Kelly Cc: rashid@rk.ios.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: de0 when bt0 is present == much sadness In-Reply-To: <199607091400.OAA18700@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> References: <199607091334.JAA03426@rk.ios.com> <199607091400.OAA18700@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Anyway, my CMOS isn't that great (Phoenix)---it allows me to set > the IRQ for the three PCI slots (currently set at 15) and set which > slots are masters or slaves, device latency, and whether to enable the > slot. Aha, you do have a bogus BIOS. You must set the IRQ used for each slot to a different number! -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 07:44:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA11738 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yucca.cs.odu.edu (root@yucca.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA11730 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandstorm.cs.odu.edu (jlh@sandstorm.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.39]) by yucca.cs.odu.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA20721; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:44:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Hall Received: (jlh@localhost) by sandstorm.cs.odu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id KAA18131; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:42:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199607091442.KAA18131@sandstorm.cs.odu.edu> Subject: drivers To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 10:42:40 EDT Cc: jlh@cs.odu.edu (Jason Hall) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL0] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am using a Novell Network with Thomas Conrad cards. Is there any hope for a token ring driver. Any suggesstion besides trying another flavor of unix for PC's JAson Hall jlh@cs.odu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 07:56:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13351 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA13345 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19121; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:56:07 GMT Message-Id: <199607091456.OAA19121@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA258704172; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:56:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:56:12 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu Cc: rashid@rk.ios.com, questions@FreeBSD.org, Mary Kelly In-Reply-To: <9607091441.AA06890@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> (message from Garrett Wollman on Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:41:41 -0400) Subject: Re: de0 when bt0 is present == much sadness Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Garrett" == Garrett Wollman writes: Garrett> Aha, you do have a bogus BIOS. You must set the IRQ used Garrett> for each slot to a different number! This isn't so bad after all ... I'll just swap motherboards with my wife's system (Award BIOS which does let you assign IRQs to each PCI slot) when she's not looking, and get a faster CPU as a bonus! :-) Thanks for the info. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 08:36:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA16573 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16568 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08830 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:36:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After reinstalling FreeBSD (2.1.0-R, 2.1-Stable-snap, 2.2-Current-snap) the kernel boot sequence determines it's on sd1, and proceeds to try and mount root there. I have no sd1, and the system properly finds the drive during the boot sequence as sd0. I can make the system boot properly by either using the "hd(1,a)/kernel" option at init, or the "-r" option at init. When I boot with hd(1,a)/kernel, the init lines indicates that I'm not booting from sd0, not sd1, as it would default. This doesn't seem to be an option during my kernel build, so what might be wrong? This is an Asus Pentium 133, Triton, 32meg RAM, a Western Digital EIDE drive as 'wd0', and a Quantum Empire 1080s hanging off an NCR 810. -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 09:16:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18764 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18756 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA28186; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:12:12 +0200 (SAT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:12:09 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: James Raynard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: after 2.1.5 releases In-Reply-To: <199607081252.MAA01173@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, James Raynard wrote: >If you're planning to follow -current and future versions of FreeBSD >then I would recommend hanging on to it :-) Ok - this I knew before hand. >There is no separate tree for -current and -stable - they are I thought so. Just wanted to confirm! >development and has basically been a tremendous pain in the tonsils, And elsewhere >which is why -stable is going away. Aha. Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 09:21:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19028 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.col.com.hk ([203.83.252.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19023 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by saturn.col.com.hk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/23Mar96-1150AM) id AA22994; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:20:16 +0800 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:20:16 +0800 (HKT) From: Joe Lee To: Doug White Cc: M C Wong , freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [2.1R] same IP address assigned to ed0 and ppp0 ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, M C Wong wrote: > > > Correct me if I'm wrong: FreeBSD 2.1R supports same IP addresses > > assigned onto different types of network interfaces, in particular a PPP > > interface and an Ethernet interface. > > I don't think so. You can assign multiple addresses to a single > interface, though. > > Why would you need to do something like that? > I believe he wants save ip address. I am now connecting to my dial-up FreeBSD server which has the same ip address for both ppp0 & 3com card. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 09:22:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19051 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-19.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19045 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19012; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:21:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199607091621.MAA19012@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: Sean Kelly cc: wollman@lcs.mit.edu, rashid@rk.ios.com, questions@freebsd.org, Mary Kelly Subject: Re: de0 when bt0 is present == much sadness In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jul 1996 08:56:12 MDT." <199607091456.OAA19121@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 12:21:35 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Sean Kelly uttered with conviction: > This isn't so bad after all ... I'll just swap mother boards with > my wife's system (Award BIOS which does let you assign I RQs to each > PCI slot) when she's not looking, and get a faster CPU as a bonus! > :-) Ooof.... If anything I have learned "barrowing" components from the wifes machine... "hell hath no fury.... " ;-) -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 09:33:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19677 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19672 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA18396; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:33:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:33:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607091633.KAA18396@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Toshihiro Kanda Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getty(8) don't show `login:' prompt In-Reply-To: <199607090904.SAA01318@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> References: <199607090904.SAA01318@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm using FreeBSD 2.1R. I wanted to login via modem, but got > difficulty... Getty didn't show `login:' to remote terminal. > > After a short hacking /usr/src/libexec/getty/, I found a delay fixes > this problem. Umm, it worked fine on my box running 2.1R until last week, when I upgraded to 2.1.5-Alpha, and it still works fine. :) Are you sure the modem is correctly configured to raise the proper signals when it answers the phone? Also, try hitting return before expecting the login prompt. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 09:52:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA20750 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (root@[199.165.180.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20702 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA08108 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:51:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199607091651.MAA08108@spoon.beta.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Version info Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 12:51:47 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was just on the FTP site, and saw references to 2.1, 2.1.5, and 2.2 on various SNAPs and incoming directories. In hope of helping out test some of the new features (most specifically Intel EtherExpress cards and IPX routing), but, as you can tell, I'm a little confused as to which snapshot I should get. Any help would be appreciated. -Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 09:59:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21408 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21403 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dougal@localhost) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.12/8.6.9 Secure) with SMTP id LAA22153 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:58:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:58:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Dougal Campbell To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Partition table update Message-ID: X-people-who-like-custom-headers: dougal@iquest.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm out of panic mode with my drive problem. This morning I was able to mount the drive read-only, and copy the files over to their new location. In case anyone is still interested, here's a recap with some more details. It appears that the partition table was damaged somehow. This happened on my wd1, which was mounted as /usr/local, so I was still able to boot the system. Previously, all attempts to access the drive, even with disklabel or fdisk, gave an error stating that the partition table was unreadable. Because some of the behaviour made it appear that the system couldn't even see the drive (e.g. sysinstall didn't show wd1 as an available drive), I thought that I should double check the CMOS settings. Everything looked fine there. I booted up, then on a whim tried to mount the drive (mount /dev/wd1s1 /mnt). Got an error saying I needed to fsck the filesystem. Did that. Found some bad blocks, and fsck couldn't write changes. Once fsck was done, I started getting the partition table errors again. But, at this point I recalled that one of the mount errors I got said that it couldn't mount read/write. At this point, I rebooted again, tried mounting read-only, and voila. After I've gotten all the important data saved, I'll experiment some more. -- Dougal Campbell | "No animals or aliens were harmed in the making Systems Coordinator | of this film." interQuest: Hsv, AL | dougal@iquest.com | -- Disclaimer in the credits for ID4 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 10:34:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23578 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23570 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ah21762; 9 Jul 96 17:34 GMT Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26199; 9 Jul 96 18:03 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports suggestion References: <199607090030.RAA04449@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 11:43:37 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org wrote: > Gary Chrysler wrote in message ID <31E191F8.20CD@ime.net>: >> Aye, I kinda like that, Although not many of the ports I have added >> have the packing list. (As you called it) > They are ALL meant to have them, as that is how the packages are built > ... if they just have subdirectories in them (which some do, and is a > bit of a cheat), then they should be fixed to have complete packing > lists ... otherwise you cannot pkg_delete them :-( I think this is is a problem with the pkg_delete (it is doing rm, not rm -r), not a cheat - there are some ports with _hundreds_ of files, often in a single directory /usr/local/lib/fatport. Unless there is some reason why it is like this? The only reason I can see is mistakes in the PLIST being more likely to do bad things, but using the cwd should prevent this (the absolute worst that could happen is nuking /usr/local and having to reinstall all the packages from the CD.) -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 10:44:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24158 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.bb.cc.wa.us (root@[206.63.145.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24153 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by aries.bb.cc.wa.us (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA15100 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:37:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Prentice X-Sender: steve@aries To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: gated/routed question. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here is the situation: We have two gateways to the internet, one is at 206.63.145.1, the other at 134.39.180.1. We would like to use the 206 network for all internet traffic, and the 134 one for administration traffic. Right now, all students use the 206, and all administration uses 134, but we would like everyone to use 206, unless the traffic is to anything in the ctc.edu domain (the 134.39.180 network). How would I go about doing this? I printed out the gated man page, it didn't say anything about this kind of situation. Steve Prentice steve@aries.bb.cc.wa.us Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind. -- Mark Harrold From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:12:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25514 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25509 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01284; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:12:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:12:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Chung SoYoung cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: a question about network card in FreeBSD .. In-Reply-To: <199607090634.PAA04409@yahanbi.snu.ac.kr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Chung SoYoung wrote: > I have some problems in using network card in FreeBSD. > My network card is Intel EtherExpress Pro. But the current 2.1 version > couldn't recognize that card. Someone told me 2.1-960627-SNAP version > would recognize that card , so I downloaded the kernel files from > ftp.freebsd.org and I booted my pc. But It didn't work. Everytime I boot > my pc, the i/o address of that card changes from 300h to 210h(I set the > address 300h). It changes ?!?! What is it, Plug and Play? Then set FreeBSD to use 0x210 in -c. Type '-c' at the boot prompt to get UserConfig then modify the appropriate device (fxp0???) to look at ioaddr 0x210. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:17:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25744 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25735 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01294; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:17:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:17:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Ovens <100104.10@CompuServe.COM> cc: questions Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM's & FreeBSD 2.1.0 In-Reply-To: <960708221550_100104.10_EHQ32-1@CompuServe.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 8 Jul 1996, Mark Ovens wrote: > I have just bought FreeBSD 2.1.0 and I am having problems installing it as I > have an ATAPI CD-ROM, a Mitsumi FX400 (although all OS's & diagnostics programs > report it as being a FX001DE). > If I use ATAPI.FLP then the 2nd IDE channel is found by the probe (wdc1 > found @ 0x170-0x177 irq15) but when I select CD-ROM as the install media I get > the message "No CD-ROM found". Did you put the CD in before booting up? > Is there a workround,patch, or updated Kernel which improves ATAPI > support, which the README's describe as "Alpha quality"? 2.1.5-RELEASE... :-) It'll be out Real Soon Now and should (had better be) be higher quality. > Whilst I have 480Mb of free disk space only 170Mb is within the 1024 > cylinder limit imposed by the BIOS for bootable partitions (I can't use the Disk > Manager software supplied with the disk drive, WD Caviar 850Mb, as it is not > compatible with OS/2 Warp which is also on the disk), so I am restricted to > 170Mb for both a DOS partition to install from and the BSD target partition. I > would expect BSD to be able to access the whole 480Mb so I guess I could install > a basic system and then add the rest into another partition in the remaining > space but I feel that it would be a bit messy & time consuming to do. It would be better to make a separate slice for the root partition. Then you can ensure the system will boot it. (Your root won't be more than 50mb, so it should easily fit in the remaining space.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:18:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25816 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25811 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01301; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:18:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: James Leppek cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD's In-Reply-To: <9607081413.AA28641@suw2k.hisd.harris.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, James Leppek wrote: > Has anyone created a "bootable" CD? My new motherboard supports > booting from the CD but I am not sure how to create such a CD. > Thanks for any help Not that I know of for FreeBSD. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:22:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26088 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26081 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id TAA28401; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:21:51 +0100 (BST) To: drizzt@shadowlands.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Multi-processors In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jul 1996 23:49:21 CDT." <31E1E4D0.1088@shadowlands.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 19:21:50 +0100 Message-ID: <28399.836936510@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Russell Epstein wrote in message ID <31E1E4D0.1088@shadowlands.com>: > Does FreeBSD support multi-processors. I run a mud and we just > dumped linux and switched to FreeBSD. We need to jump to a faster > computer because the one we have can't handle the load. > I am really hoping it supports dual-processors :) I really WOULD be surprised if your MUD actually gained anything from running in a multi-processor environment, unless it relies on separate processes to do different tasks. Most servers of this sort that I have seen tend to be monolithic programs, and only have one process which actually does anything. Multi-processor support will only give you gains in situations where you have lots of separate processes competing for the time on a single processor, as the load could be shared across the multiple processors instead (in which case you run into memory, disk, and other i/o bandwidth limitations instead). As for SMP (Symmetric Multi-Processing) support in FreeBSD, it's in the works, but it isn't in any of the releases to date, and won't be in the next one (2.1.5, which will be out later this week). It'll likely be in 2.2 though, which is due out about the end of the year. If you want to try the current SMP support, and have a Pentium based machine which is capable of supporting multiple processors, then you can talk to the people on the `smp' mailing list (and they'll probably kill me for sending you there, but I forgot the details, so I can't tell you). Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:26:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26299 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [206.196.133.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26294 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com (egate.mnet.uswest.com [151.116.23.138]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA22580 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:25:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA29109 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:25:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25977; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:25:31 -0500 Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25957; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:25:16 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA17209; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:24:49 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199607091824.NAA17209@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: gated/routed question. To: steve@aries.bb.cc.wa.us (Steve Prentice) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:24:49 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve Prentice" at Jul 9, 96 10:37:27 am X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Steve Prentice said: > > > Here is the situation: We have two gateways to the internet, one is at > 206.63.145.1, the other at 134.39.180.1. We would like to use the 206 > network for all internet traffic, and the 134 one for administration > traffic. Right now, all students use the 206, and all administration uses > 134, but we would like everyone to use 206, unless the traffic is to > anything in the ctc.edu domain (the 134.39.180 network). How would I go > about doing this? I printed out the gated man page, it didn't say > anything about this kind of situation. How about: route add default x.x.x.x 1 route add 134.29.180.0 x.x.x.x 1 Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Minds, like parachutes, only function when open. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:27:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26367 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26361 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id TAA28415; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:26:16 +0100 (BST) To: Robin Melville cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: 2.1.5 Stable and rpc.lockd In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jul 1996 11:18:16 BST." <199607091018.LAA15174@charlie.nadt.org.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 19:26:14 +0100 Message-ID: <28413.836936774@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robin Melville wrote in message ID <199607091018.LAA15174@charlie.nadt.org.uk>: > We've now turned our whole site over to FreeBSD and are delighted > with it. We use our FreeBSD hosts for NFS, email, in-house database > applications, and an HTTP "intranet" and development area for our > external web presence. Because this is a clinical organisation it's > important we have good availability, so we have opted to await your > official releases rather than tracking ongoing work. > Our question is about 2.1.5 RELEASE versus the imminent(?) 2.2 > RELEASE. There is nothing imminent about 2.2, apart from that it'll happen (eventually :-) ). 2.2 is due out about the end of the year. > We understand from several correspondents that a working version of > rpc.lockd is under development on the -current branch. Obviously > this is of importance to us given our NFS requirement. > Does the -stable release contain the rpc.lockd implementation, or should we > wait for 2.2? If you want rpc.lockd (and I'm not sure WHY you want it, nothing you said above about what you use FreeBSD for, apart from e-mail, really needs rpc.lockd, and if you are NFS mounting /var/mail, you're also asking for trouble :-( ) then youy will likely have to wait for 2.2-RELEASE, and even then I can't guarentee that a fully functional rpc.lockd will be present. Currently, I believe, a stub rpc.lockd is in the code, which just blindly accepts all lock requests without actually doing anything about checking to see if it just granted multiple clients with locks on a single file. It's mainly to quieten DOS based NFS clients which insist on talking to a lockd server. Considering that people (in the know) say that Sun never got rpc.lockd right either, I'd be surprised if we get WORKING NFS locking which also inter-operates with Sun code properly. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:31:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26659 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26651 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01317; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:32:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jason Hall cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: drivers In-Reply-To: <199607091442.KAA18131@sandstorm.cs.odu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Jason Hall wrote: > I am using a Novell Network with Thomas Conrad cards. Is there any hope for > a token ring driver. Something is in the works, but nothing working yet (AFAIK). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:33:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26788 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26778 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01324; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:33:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Mr.X" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd In-Reply-To: <31E19001.4F74@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Mr.X wrote: > How can i get A copy of the cd rom FreeBsd? When I was trying to > download, I coudnt find where the freebsd was please help. The CD is available from Walnut Creek CDROM (http://www.cdrom.com/). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:33:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26834 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26823 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA24694; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:27:47 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607091827.LAA24694@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (Werner Griessl) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:27:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607091305.NAA02371@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> from "Werner Griessl" at Jul 9, 96 01:05:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > An X-frontend for the type of admin tools we have been discussing needs > > to be dynamically assembleable from parts so that the front end software > > can be written once and never modified for a multitude of tools. > > For example with "system"-calls to the tools . > Werner I knew this was going to grow quickly into a full-blown discussion. Perhaps this subject needs its own list? Here is my take on divorcing the front end technology from the utility<->front end data interchange grammar: It would look like a method of defining CLI utilities (initially by hand with UI requirements), and a UI library consumer that could talk to a CLI written the right way to marshall the data to the UI code and the UI event back to CLI commands. So there is a need for two defined interfaces and a framework: ,------------------------------------------. | UIM (User Interface Manager) | `------------------------------------------' /\ /\ || || \/ \/ ,-------------------. ,-------------------. | CLI | | UI | `-------------------' `-------------------' The CLI recognizes that it has been opened via pipe, and goes into "transaction mode". Each command is responded immediately with a single character feedback of '0' (success) or '1' (error). The UIM<->CLI interactor consists of <<*PROTOYPE*>>: extern CMD *cmd_open __P(( char *cmdname)); start the CLI extern void cmd_close __P(( CMD *cmdp)); stop the CLI extern int cmd_send __P(( CMD *cmdp, char *cmd, int *stp)); send a command to the CLI, returning 0/1 status extern int cmd_readln __P(( CMD *cmdp, char *bufp, int *cntp)); read a diagnostic from the CLI extern int cmd_begin __P(( CMD *cmdp, char *cmd, int *stp)); start a context for the CLI extern int cmd_end __P(( CMD *cmdp, int accept)); end a context for the CLI, instantiating or discarding changes made within that context Consider the CLI "uadmin", a user database administration agent. A cmd_* consumer could add a user with: CMD *uap; int st; uap = cmd_open( "uadmin"); ... cmd_begin( uap, "ADD USER"); cmd_send( uap, "USER=terry"); cmd_send( uap, "NAME=Terry Lambert"); cmd_send( uap, "ID=501"); cmd_send( uap, "GROUP=20"); cmd_send( uap, "GROUP+=0"); cmd_send( uap, "GROUP+=552"); cmd_send( uap, "HOME=/home/terry"); cmd_send( uap, "SHELL=/bin/csh"); cmd_send( uap, "EXPIRE_PASSWORD=NEVER"); cmd_send( uap, "EXPIRE_ACCOUNT=NEVER"); cmd_end( uap, END_ACCEPT); cmd_close( uap); Clearly, a UIM program could make UI calls to instantiate a dialog, if it had knowledge of the command hierarchy, had presented a menu, and the administrator had selected "add user" from the menu. Multiple changes to the user's environment from the control set would be allowed; for instance: ,-------------------------------------------------------. | ADD USER | ,-------------------------------------------------------. | Account Name [terry ] ,-Groups---------------. | | User ID [501 ] | * staff (20) | | | Password Expires [NEVER ] | wheel (0) v | | Account Expires [NEVER ] `----------------------' | | Full Name [Terry Lambert ] | | Home Directory [/home/terry ] | | Command Shell [/bin/csh ] | | | | ( ACCEPT ) ( CANCEL ) | `-------------------------------------------------------' With tab-based navigation. If I changes "terry" to "jkh" in the account name and home directory edit areas, and changed the full name from "Terry Lambert" to "Jordan Hubbard", the UIM would (as a result of a field-change callback on navigation): CMD *uap; int st; uap = cmd_open( "uadmin"); ... cmd_begin( uap, "ADD USER"); cmd_send( uap, "USER=terry"); cmd_send( uap, "NAME=Terry Lambert"); cmd_send( uap, "ID=501"); cmd_send( uap, "GROUP=20"); cmd_send( uap, "GROUP+=0"); cmd_send( uap, "GROUP+=552"); cmd_send( uap, "HOME=/home/terry"); cmd_send( uap, "SHELL=/bin/csh"); cmd_send( uap, "EXPIRE_PASSWORD=NEVER"); cmd_send( uap, "EXPIRE_ACCOUNT=NEVER"); cmd_send( uap, "USER=jkh"); cmd_send( uap, "HOME=/home/jkh"); cmd_send( uap, "NAME=Jordan Hubbard"); cmd_end( uap, END_ACCEPT); cmd_close( uap); Until the cmd_end, the edits are neither committed nor discarded. The equivalent "command line": # uadmin uadmin> BEGIN ADD USER add user> USER=terry add user> NAME=Terry Lambert add user> ID=501 add user> GROUP=20 0 552 add user> HOME=/home/terry add user> SHELL=/bin/csh add user> EXPIRE_PASSWORD=NEVER add user> EXPIRE_ACCOUNT=NEVER add user> USER=jkh add user> HOME=/home/jkh add user> NAME=Jordan Hubbard add user> END ACCEPT uadmin: added jkh uadmin> ^D # ====== Note that my front end never gained specific knowledge of the CLI tool which it is front-ending. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:39:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27162 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27157 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA24711; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:33:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607091833.LAA24711@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Samba FS planned to implement? To: igor@cs.ibank.ru (Igor Vinokurov) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:33:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607090957.NAA28123@escape.cs.ibank.ru> from "Igor Vinokurov" at Jul 9, 96 01:57:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > re, > > smbclient - cool but interactive. :) I have a proposal on the table (in a news group posting) for session management and a password cache interface. These are prerequisites for a correct implementation. The Linux implementation is incorrect, and opens security holes you could drive a truck through. This would not be so bad if the default configuration was not so badly thought out that you could drive three trucks and a blimp through. Remember the CERT advisort for Microsoft SMB servers? Imagine it applying to all of your UNIX systems. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 11:40:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27263 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27258 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id TAA28438; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:39:33 +0100 (BST) To: Michael Searle cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Ports suggestion In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jul 1996 11:43:37 -0000." Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 19:39:32 +0100 Message-ID: <28436.836937572@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Searle wrote in message ID : > I think this is is a problem with the pkg_delete (it is doing rm, not rm > -r), not a cheat - there are some ports with _hundreds_ of files, often in a > single directory /usr/local/lib/fatport. Unless there is some reason why > it is like this? The only reason I can see is mistakes in the PLIST being > more likely to do bad things, but using the cwd should prevent this (the > absolute worst that could happen is nuking /usr/local and having to > reinstall all the packages from the CD.) Consider if somehow the PLIST got `.*' in it? rm -r would blindly walk down and nuke your entire system. `rm -r' in automated packages (which require the manual intervention of people to create in the first place) are to be avoided at ALL costs. I, for one, would rather see a 20 or 30k PLIST file rather then a 1 line PLIST file and a `rm -r' in pkg_delete. If you look at stuff like the emacs port, it has a full packing list, so I see NO reason why others shouldn't too. Constructing a packing list (for your example of something totally under /usr/local/lib/fatport) is as simple as: find /usr/local/lib/fatport -type f -print | sed "s%/usr/local/%%" > PLIST and if it has a binary or two, and perhaps even a man page, it's easy enough to add those in once the bulk listing is done. Heck, you can even do something like: cd /usr/local find . -type f -ls > .before (go and install the port) find . -type f -ls | sort > .after diff .before .after | grep "^>" | awk " { printf '%s', $12 } " | sed "s%./%%" > PLIST and get a fair representation of what was added / updated in /usr/local by doing the `make install'. I'm sorry, the only excuse for not having full packing lists in ports is laziness, and if I'm in a port doing an update for some other reason, then I'll try and correct the packing list if the original author didn't submit one. (I'm sorry if I just offended some people who submit packages to us, but I know that both Satoshi and myself prefer full packing lists to packing lists with a few directories in them) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 12:07:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28660 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.seas.ucla.edu (paulc@lightning.seas.ucla.edu [164.67.100.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28579 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:05:03 -0700 (PDT) From: paulc@seas.ucla.edu Received: by lightning.seas.ucla.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03(UCLA 2.05)noloc) id AA35059; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:04:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:04:47 -0700 Message-Id: <9607091904.AA35059@lightning.seas.ucla.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: harddrive partition Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I recenly purchased FreeBSD2.1 and am having a hard time installing the thing. I read through the documentations and help pages, little mention of my problem. I was wondering if you can help out. I have a 1GB SCSI drive, partitioned into 3 drives. First is 100MB (primary) for dos programs; the other two are in an extended partition. Within the extended partiton, I created 2 logical paritions, 500MB (win95) and 400MB (potential UNIX); respectively C:\ D:\ E:\ When I ran FIPS, indicates only two drives, I guess the 100MB and the 900MB. If I continue with splitting the 2nd drive, will that kill my win95? I'm new to installing UNIX, can you give me a step by step procedure or at least giveme some hints as to how to proceed. thanks. Paul Chen e-mail: paulc@seas.ucla.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 12:50:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01591 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01582 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA28698; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:49:50 +0100 (BST) To: Russell Epstein CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Multi-processors In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jul 1996 12:54:01 CDT." <199607091754.MAA03074@shadowlands.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 20:49:48 +0100 Message-ID: <28696.836941788@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [CC:'d back to questions as I dunno the answer to the second part ] Russell Epstein wrote in message ID <199607091754.MAA03074@shadowlands.com>: > I know mudos does not support multi-processors. I mainly wanted it > for use of running other apps like emacs and compiling drivers > etc... I also use the machine for a few other purposes. But I > think we are just going to buy a P-166 and be done with it. Probably wise. I'd love to see a MUD that could eat a P166! I know that LambdaMOO too a SPARC down to it's knees, but that was a memory problem (it's a memory hog) as far as I remember. That, and SPARC's (or the ones that were used to run LambdaMOO on) aren't all that fast by modern standards :-) > Ohh yea one more question. I noticed you have support for the > Cyrinx chips. I was looking at the Cyrinx 166 and it is 100 bucks > cheaper than the P-166. Have you seen any problems with the Cyrinx > chips? Dunno. Other readers of -questions care to comment? Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:01:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02181 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02176 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-17.ime.net [206.231.148.146]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA25182; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E2BA86.4199@ime.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:01:10 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Palmer CC: Michael Searle , questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports suggestion References: <28436.836937572@palmer.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer wrote: > > > and get a fair representation of what was added / updated in > /usr/local by doing the `make install'. I'm sorry, the only excuse for > not having full packing lists in ports is laziness, and if I'm in a > port doing an update for some other reason, then I'll try and correct > the packing list if the original author didn't submit one. > Amen! > > (I'm sorry if I just offended some people who submit packages to us, > but I know that both Satoshi and myself prefer full packing lists to > packing lists with a few directories in them) > That shouldn't offend anyone except the guilty ones! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:07:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02657 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmog10.bell.ca (dmog10.bell.ca [198.235.69.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02650 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dcoc41.qc.bell.ca (dcoc41.qc.bell.ca [142.119.11.11]) by dmog10.bell.ca with ESMTP id QAA07077 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:06:52 -0400 Received: from blmc36.QC.Bell.CA (blmc36.QC.Bell.CA [142.118.5.40]) by dcoc41.qc.bell.ca with SMTP id QAA29027 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:03:27 -0400 Received: from blmc36 (localhost) by blmc36.QC.Bell.CA (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12193; Tue, 9 Jul 96 16:09:11 EDT Message-Id: <31E2BC66.2781E494@blmc36.qc.bell.ca> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:09:10 -0400 From: Michel Beausejour X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; U; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: binary editor (hexfile editor) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a hexfile editor which can print the ascii code aside the hexcode? Thanks -- Michel Beausejour C.E.T 514-391-2028 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:13:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03137 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03129 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-17.ime.net [206.231.148.146]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA26106; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E2BD5B.78A0@ime.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:13:15 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Kelly CC: wollman@lcs.mit.edu, rashid@rk.ios.com, questions@FreeBSD.org, Mary Kelly Subject: Re: de0 when bt0 is present == much sadness References: <199607091456.OAA19121@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly wrote: > > >>>>> "Garrett" == Garrett Wollman writes: > > Garrett> Aha, you do have a bogus BIOS. You must set the IRQ used > Garrett> for each slot to a different number! > > This isn't so bad after all ... I'll just swap motherboards with my > wife's system (Award BIOS which does let you assign IRQs to each PCI > slot) when she's not looking, and get a faster CPU as a bonus! :-) > Yur braver then I.. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:14:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03308 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03289 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19238 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:14:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After reinstalling FreeBSD (either 2.1.0-R, 2.1-Stable-snap, or the 2.2-Current-snap) the kernel boot sequence determines it's on sd1, and proceeds to try and mount root there. I have no sd1, and the system properly finds the drive during the boot sequence as sd0. Obviously this doesn't work too well. I get a panic, and a reboot. I can make the system boot properly by using the "hd(1,a)/kernel" option at init. When I boot with hd(1,a)/kernel, the init lines indicates that I'm booting from sd0, not sd1, as it would have defaulted. This doesn't seem to be an option during my kernel build, so what might be wrong? This is an Asus Pentium 133, Triton, 32meg RAM, a Western Digital EIDE drive as 'wd0', and a Quantum Empire 1080s hanging off an NCR 810. All slices are in one partition on the Quantum (sd0). Can anyone help? -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:24:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04013 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04002 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-17.ime.net [206.231.148.146]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA26898 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E2C003.5E3C@ime.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:24:35 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: fbsd-ipx. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody using this interested in helping me get it doing _something_ so I can study it's operation?? I realize that alot of you all are busy with 2.1.5 so If an offer is made I can wait. (Not that I want to :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:37:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05223 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05211; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id PAA06453; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:37:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id PAA07392; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:37:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199607092037.PAA07392@galileo.mr.net> Subject: Re: Multi-processors To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:37:41 -0500 (CDT) Cc: drizzt@shadowlands.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <28696.836941788@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 9, 96 08:49:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Ohh yea one more question. I noticed you have support for the > > Cyrinx chips. I was looking at the Cyrinx 166 and it is 100 bucks > > cheaper than the P-166. Have you seen any problems with the Cyrinx > > chips? > > Dunno. Other readers of -questions care to comment? > haven't used any of the cyrix chips personally, but i have heard lots of complaints about problems with cyrix chips running 2.1R. YMMV. Ben black@mr.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:40:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05330 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05324 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id af13298; 9 Jul 96 20:34 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01584; 9 Jul 96 20:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01260; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:16:05 GMT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:16:05 GMT Message-Id: <199607091516.PAA01260@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de CC: erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607091033.KAA00637@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> (message from Werner Griessl on Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:33:26 +0000 ()) Subject: Re: help Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In this situation you have 3 choices: > 1) more RAM > 2) wait for the upcoming 2.1.5-Release ( in a few days ) > 3) Install the latest 2.1-SNAP ( it includes a boot4-floppy) It might be worth mentioning that the 2.1-SNAP boot floppy allows you to select the version of the operating system you wish to install, so you can still install 2.1.0-RELEASE from it. > P.S.: In every case: every serious FreeBSD with 4 MB of ram > will be nearly unusable ( only my $0.02) It will certainly struggle to run X or compile programs, but is probably acceptable for a very basic Unix box. I used to have an 8MB machine and found it perfectly useable in text-mode. Who knows, maybe he wants to use it as a dedicated router or a dumb terminal? :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:43:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05601 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05595; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA05115; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:43:19 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:43:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: Gary Palmer cc: Russell Epstein , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multi-processors In-Reply-To: <28696.836941788@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > [CC:'d back to questions as I dunno the answer to the second part ] > > Russell Epstein wrote in message ID > <199607091754.MAA03074@shadowlands.com>: > > I know mudos does not support multi-processors. I mainly wanted it > > for use of running other apps like emacs and compiling drivers > > etc... I also use the machine for a few other purposes. But I > > think we are just going to buy a P-166 and be done with it. > > Probably wise. I'd love to see a MUD that could eat a P166! I know > that LambdaMOO too a SPARC down to it's knees, but that was a memory > problem (it's a memory hog) as far as I remember. That, and SPARC's > (or the ones that were used to run LambdaMOO on) aren't all that fast > by modern standards :-) I plan on integrating OS-level threads into Cold, which is a derivative of LambdaMOO and CoolMUD (amoung others), once I finish up a few other tasks. > > Ohh yea one more question. I noticed you have support for the > > Cyrinx chips. I was looking at the Cyrinx 166 and it is 100 bucks > > cheaper than the P-166. Have you seen any problems with the Cyrinx > > chips? > > Dunno. Other readers of -questions care to comment? The primary Cold server runs on a Cyrix P150+, the only problem I have is that the kernel finds it as a 486 chip, so the 586 and 686 instruction set it has is being ignored. Other than that, I have never had problems (other than an overheating problem, but that was due to the case it was put into). -Brandon Gillespie- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:49:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06114 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06083 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa16295; 9 Jul 96 20:45 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01532; 9 Jul 96 20:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01235; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:52:41 GMT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:52:41 GMT Message-Id: <199607091452.OAA01235@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: metcalf@imagine.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31E19354.4097@imagine.com> (metcalf@imagine.com) Subject: Re: Increase swap space? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I recently upgraded my RAM from 16MB to 32MB. I typically run > the following applications on FreeBSD: > > Netscape, TeX, emacs, and gcc I can see why you wanted more RAM :-) > There will probably never be any more than two users on my system > at any given time. When I installed FreeBSD, I only dedicated > 32MB to swap space. I have read some discussion that swap space > for FreeBSD should be 32MB or 2.5 times physical memory, whichever > is larger. It depends on your usage patterns. Twice physical memory is probably the minimum; if you're into heavy usage, (such as having at least one copy of all the above programs running under X), you may find you need 3 or 4 times physical RAM. As someone else has suggested, the best idea is to measure your usage and see if you're regularly running short of swap. (You'll probably notice if you run out completely, as the system will start killing things to try and free up some space). > Do you feel that I should increase swap space to get the optimal > benefit from my new RAM upgrade? If so, is there a way to do this > without reinstalling FreeBSD? I noticed some discussion in the > FreeBSD FAQ concerning adding swap space. Should I just follow > the procedure, or are there other concerns here? The FAQ describes a method of swapping onto a regular file. As far as I know, this works, but the performance isn't as good as with a "real" swap partition, as any accesses have to go through the filesystem. The optimal solution is probably to add another disk and put a swap partition on it. A SCSI bus can access multiple swap partitions in parallel, giving a performance boost, although you probably won't see one under IDE. (And of course you also get lots more disk space to play with!) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:52:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06433 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06416; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aw14650; 9 Jul 96 20:41 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01663; 9 Jul 96 20:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01215; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:29:18 GMT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:29:18 GMT Message-Id: <199607091429.OAA01215@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: terry@lambert.org CC: nate@mt.sri.com, terry@lambert.org, gpalmer@freebsd.org, ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607090157.SAA23331@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:57:12 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Lots. Maybe 'touched' was a poor word. Many files were 'fixed' in the > > 2.1 -> 2.1.5 upgrade, but very few new features were added, and a couple > > of them shouldn't have been (/dev/random stuff). The ELF stuff is *new* > > code, and as such doesn't fit the bill for the 'target' of the stable > > release. > > OK, I can accept this. It means that there is really little value > in 2.1.5R vs. 2.1R (from my personal point of view, anyway), but it > is a solid, rational position. There probably isn't much of interest to kernel hackers in 2.1.5 - it's aimed mainly at users who want to have existing bugs fixed without new ones being introduced at the same time :-) > > > I don't think a "weight of printout" argument is really applicable in > > > this case. > > > > It certainly is. The 'weight of printout' implies that the code is both > > new *and* fairly untested on a large scale. > > No, it implies that the "number of files touched" is an arbiter of > whether or not a change is a good one or not. The question is one of stability, not of value judgments. I don't believe anyone is arguing that large changes are automatically bad, just that it takes longer for them to settle down sufficiently to be made available in a release. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 13:57:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06820 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06815 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA24963; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:52:25 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607092052.NAA24963@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup To: martin.loeffler@utoronto.ca (Martin Loeffler) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:52:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960709125713.006dccd4@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca> from "Martin Loeffler" at Jul 9, 96 08:57:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm running freebsd2.1 and using PPP to connect to the net. I have a problem > in that if the machine crashes and reboots, the modem stays connected and > PPP can't get ahold of it to re-dial. Is there anything that I can put in > rc.local to force a hangup before ppp tries to dial, or is there an option > I've missed in /etc/ppp/options to tell the modem to hangup when ppp > terminates, or is it too early in the morning to think about these things? The default POST setting for DTR should be such that it is *not* asserted unless it has been specifically asserted. An on-to-off transition of DTR will cause your modem to reset as if powered off then on. Failure modes: 1) Internal modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. 2) Modem not set to follow DTR correctly. Modem should reset as if powered off then back on on on-to-off DTR transition; if your modem does not do this, it is set up incorrectly. 3) Modem does not signal DCD loss to computer. Modem should on-to-off transition DCD signal when remote carrier is lost. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 14:13:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08086 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.netcom.com (freebsd.netcom.com [198.211.79.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08073 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by freebsd.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id QAA24002; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:18:36 -0500 From: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Message-Id: <199607092118.QAA24002@freebsd.netcom.com> Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup (fwd) To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:18:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >terry@lambert.org writes: > The default POST setting for DTR should be such that it is *not* asserted > unless it has been specifically asserted. > > An on-to-off transition of DTR will cause your modem to reset as if > powered off then on. > > Failure modes: > > 1) Internal modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > 2) Modem not set to follow DTR correctly. Modem should reset > as if powered off then back on on on-to-off DTR transition; > if your modem does not do this, it is set up incorrectly. > 3) Modem does not signal DCD loss to computer. Modem should > on-to-off transition DCD signal when remote carrier is lost. Another weird failure mode is that the dtr signal is not dropped for long enough for your modem - you might see this on a faster box. I remember having to patch the getty on Xenix to sleep an additional second before opening the terminal device - this forced dtr down at least a second and allowed the required hangup. Regards, Mark Hittinger Netcom/Dallas bugs@freebsd.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 14:20:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08508 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08483; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00572; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:20:16 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma000570; Tue Jul 9 21:20:01 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA28403; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:20:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:20:00 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199607092120.OAA28403@meerkat.mole.org> To: black@MR.Net, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multi-processors Cc: drizzt@shadowlands.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > Ohh yea one more question. I noticed you have support for the > > > Cyrinx chips. I was looking at the Cyrinx 166 and it is 100 bucks > > > cheaper than the P-166. Have you seen any problems with the Cyrinx > > > chips? > > > > Dunno. Other readers of -questions care to comment? > > > haven't used any of the cyrix chips personally, but i have heard lots of > complaints about problems with cyrix chips running 2.1R. YMMV. > > Cyrix 6x86 P-120+ and P-150+ work very well with Adaptec 2940 and HP SCSI drives with ASUS MB, 2.1R, 2.1-stable (mid-June). YMMV. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 14:22:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08639 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08629; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA25001; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:17:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607092117.OAA25001@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: 2.1.5 Stable and rpc.lockd To: gpalmer@freebsd.org (Gary Palmer) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:17:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: robmel@nadt.org.uk, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <28413.836936774@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 9, 96 07:26:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > We understand from several correspondents that a working version of > > rpc.lockd is under development on the -current branch. Obviously > > this is of importance to us given our NFS requirement. > > > Does the -stable release contain the rpc.lockd implementation, or should we > > wait for 2.2? > > If you want rpc.lockd (and I'm not sure WHY you want it, nothing you > said above about what you use FreeBSD for, apart from e-mail, really > needs rpc.lockd, and if you are NFS mounting /var/mail, you're also > asking for trouble :-( ) then youy will likely have to wait for > 2.2-RELEASE, and even then I can't guarentee that a fully functional > rpc.lockd will be present. Currently, I believe, a stub rpc.lockd is > in the code, which just blindly accepts all lock requests without > actually doing anything about checking to see if it just granted > multiple clients with locks on a single file. It's mainly to quieten > DOS based NFS clients which insist on talking to a lockd server. Actually, it was to quiet Sun machines, according to the author. > Considering that people (in the know) say that Sun never got rpc.lockd > right either, I'd be surprised if we get WORKING NFS locking which > also inter-operates with Sun code properly. The people who say this are the same people who rail against NFS for being stateless, but I yet to see any of them implement RFS to replace it, so mostly it's just griping. I posted the patches to the kernel for proxy locking support via the fcntl() interface to the -current list. In combination with the rpc.lockd code in the -current tree, it should be relatively trivial to put to gether a server-side locking soloution that actually works and interoperates with Sun's for an NFS server running on FreeBSD. It's about 200 or so lines of code (a trivial hack). Jordan was going to do the code for his BSD internals class at UCB. The client locking is more difficult, and real support will require pre-testing local locking before going to the wire. This means an order change for the VOP layering for VOP_ADVLOCK, something I have been pushing on for about 14 months now. In any case, if you are running a pure FreeBSD environment, you will need both client and server if you need either, since there's nothing else to talk to. 8-). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 14:27:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09019 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.stylo.it (unix.stylo.it [193.76.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09008 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from styloserver.stylo.it (trust.stylo.it [194.21.207.253]) by unix.stylo.it (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA15114 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:28:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by styloserver.stylo.it with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB6DEE.2CF74FF0@styloserver.stylo.it>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:27:20 +0200 Message-ID: From: Angelo Turetta To: "'freebsd-questions'" Subject: Extra blank page after remote print from WinNT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:27:10 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB6DEE.2D07F1C0" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Contact your mail administrator for information about upgrading your reader to a version that supports MIME. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB6DEE.2D07F1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm using a 2.2-960501-SNAP as a printer server in a Windows NT network: the printer is HP LJ compatible. NT 3.5 and later can print to a lpd server, but after the actual job has finished printing, an additional blank page is output. Of course the problem is not visible when printing from the server itself, nor it is when printing remotely from another FreeBSD machine. Has anybody had the same problem ? What is your advise as to where to start troubleshooting it (needless to say, getting rid of NT is not a valid option :-). Best regards Angelo ----------------------------------------------------------------- Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it Stylo Multimedia - Bologna - Italy http://www.stylo.it/ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB6DEE.2D07F1C0-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 14:33:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09354 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09347 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ag13747; 9 Jul 96 20:36 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01486; 9 Jul 96 20:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01268; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:22:07 GMT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:22:07 GMT Message-Id: <199607091522.PAA01268@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: paulc@seas.ucla.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607082210.AA50511@sleet.seas.ucla.edu> (paulc@seas.ucla.edu) Subject: Re: help on partitioning harddisk for FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I like to know if there is anyone/any group who can > help me with installing the FreeBSD Unix I purchased. Yes, this list is the right place. > I have a problem > on partitioning extended partitions. Is this during the installation or are you trying to add another disk to your system? It's not quite clear what you're trying to do. If you're trying to install FreeBSD into an extended partition, it needs to have its own primary partition. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 15:31:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13650 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13643 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0udlAt-0004s9C; Tue, 9 Jul 96 18:22 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15016; Tue, 9 Jul 96 18:21:43 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA24537; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:23:36 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199607092223.SAA24537@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: binary editor (hexfile editor) To: mbeausej@QC.Bell.CA (Michel Beausejour) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E2BC66.2781E494@blmc36.qc.bell.ca> from "Michel Beausejour" at Jul 9, 96 04:09:10 pm Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Is there a hexfile editor which can print the ascii code aside the >hexcode? I'm sure not crazy about it, but there's hexl-mode in Emacs. Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 15:33:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13762 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hollywood.cinenet.net (wraith@hollywood.cinenet.net [198.147.76.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13757 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hollywood.cinenet.net (8.7.3/25-eef) id PAA00220; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Gorichanaz Message-Id: <199607092233.PAA00220@hollywood.cinenet.net> Subject: Multiport Serial cards ?!?! To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:33:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any recommendations on a 12-16 port multiport serial card (or combination of smaller cards)?? I need a vendor name and address. thanks!! -=bob=- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 16:08:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16634 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA16627 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id av08988; 9 Jul 96 22:00 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01517; 9 Jul 96 20:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01243; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:57:18 GMT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:57:18 GMT Message-Id: <199607091457.OAA01243@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: revok1@pathcom.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31E1E588.5179@pathcom.com> (message from revok1 on Tue, 09 Jul 1996 00:52:24 -0400) Subject: Re: PPP Login Script Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am having some difficulty getting FreeBSD to connect to my > Internet Provider's UNIX box, and I was wondering if it would be at all > possible to receive a sample login script, or even some general > guidelines for getting a PPP/SLIP connection up and running. Kind of a > tall order, I know. Any help at all, however, is appreciated.... :) There's a full step-by-step guide to setting up PPP in the Handbook, which is in /usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.ascii on your system. The latest copy of the Handbook is at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 16:40:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18283 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aeffle.Stanford.EDU (sequence.Stanford.EDU [171.65.76.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18278; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aeffle.Stanford.EDU; id AA18036; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:40:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:40:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: Ben Black Cc: Gary Palmer , drizzt@shadowlands.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multi-processors In-Reply-To: <199607092037.PAA07392@galileo.mr.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Ben Black wrote: > > > > > Ohh yea one more question. I noticed you have support for the > > > Cyrinx chips. I was looking at the Cyrinx 166 and it is 100 bucks > > > cheaper than the P-166. Have you seen any problems with the Cyrinx > > > chips? > > > > Dunno. Other readers of -questions care to comment? > > > haven't used any of the cyrix chips personally, but i have heard lots of > complaints about problems with cyrix chips running 2.1R. YMMV. Hmmm.... no complaints for the Cyrix 6x86s. We use them with FreeBSD 2.1R and they work great! ---- || Shoppers Network BEST PRICES, FULLY x86 COMPATIBLE & FAST!!! || PO BOX 16627 Cyrix 686s now available! || San Francisco, CA 94116 Email - info@shoppersnet.com | ------------------------------> WWW - http://www2.shoppersnet.com -------------------------------> WWW - http://www.shoppersnet.com/shopping From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 17:25:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA20511 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rdsw.com (rdsw.com [198.211.39.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20503 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rdsw.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA21232 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:25:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Dunaway Message-Id: <199607100025.TAA21232@rdsw.com> Subject: STABLE Kernel Crashes To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:25:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The STABLE kernel version dated June 17 has been running fine. I compiled a STABLE kernel about June 26 and it did a panic during the boot. I built a CURRENT kernel on June 27 and it ran fine. I then built a new STABLE kernel on June 28 an it did a panic during boot. I built another STABLE kernel on July 1. After it booted, it corrupted the root partition, and after trying to fsck the partition, it gave up and quit. I had to reload the system from the 2.1.0 RELEASE and restore from tape. On July 9, I built another STABLE kernel. When I booted it, numerous directories were either deleted, converted to files, or lost the directory information (showed in ls listing but not ls -l). They could not be deleted but could be renamed. I was able to repair the damage with fsck and restore lost data from tape. Among the corrupted directories were /var/at, /var/backups, /var/run, /var/mail, /var/tmp, /var/spool/lock, /var/spool/output, /tmp, and /etc/ppp. The June 17 STABLE kernel still ran fine. I turned off the external cache for the CPU and tried booting the July 9 kernel. It ran fine with external cache turned off. I have a Sanyo 486-DX2-66 with 256K of cache memory and 16 megs of RAM. The July 9 kernel was built using the GENERIC configuration with a new name and the 386 and 586 options commented out. I have included the configuration file and the dmesg output after disabling the cache. # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.46.2.12 1996/07/08 23:01:41 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" ident HTI maxusers 10 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM controller ncr0 controller ahb0 controller ahc0 controller ahc1 controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector bt_isa_intr controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 #options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # #device apm0 at isa? # Advanced Power Management #options APM_BROKEN_STATCLOCK # Workaround some buggy APM BIOS device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device lpt1 at isa? port? tty device lpt2 at isa? port? tty device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr #device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Tue Jul 9 11:35:28 CDT 1996 bob@opal.bgm.link.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/HTI CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 Features=0x3 real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14647296 (14304K bytes) ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on isa ahc0: Using Edge Triggered Interrupts ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs ahc0: Reseting Channel A ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program...Done ahc0: Probing channel A ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc0: target 0 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf (ahc0:0:0): "MICROP 2217-15MZ1001905 HQ30" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1685MB (3450902 512 byte sectors) sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 2372 cyls, 15 heads, and an average 96 sectors/track ahc0: target 1 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf (ahc0:1:0): "QUANTUM EMPIRE_1080S 1220" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 1029MB (2109376 512 byte sectors) sd1(ahc0:1:0): with 2874 cyls, 8 heads, and an average 91 sectors/track (ahc0:4:0): "ARCHIVE VIPER 150 21247 -011" type 1 removable SCSI 1 st0(ahc0:4:0): Sequential-Access st0: Archive Viper 150 is a known rogue density code 0x0, drive empty ahc0: target 5 synchronous at 5.0MHz, offset = 0xf (ahc0:5:0): "ARCHIVE Python 00367-XXX 5.23" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st1(ahc0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, 512-byte blocks, write-protected pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0xffffffff (0x80000000), mode2res=0xff (0x0e) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 ed1 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16450 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff lpt2 not found at 0xffffffff mse0: wrong signature ff mse0 not found at 0x23c fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0 not found at 0x330 uha0 not found at 0x330 aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 not found at 0x340 nca0 not found at 0x1f88 nca1 not found at 0x350 sea0 not found wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0: timeout getting status mcd0 not found at 0x300 mcd1: timeout getting status mcd1 not found at 0x340 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ie0 not found at 0x360 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:20:af:52:37:4c ix0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 le0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 lnc1 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 ze0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 zp0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Device configuration finished. Considering FFS root f/s. changing root device to sd0a Configuring root and swap devs. configure() finished. BIOS Geometries: 0:03fe3f20 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..32=32 sectors 1:03fe3f20 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..32=32 sectors 0 accounted for sd0s1: type 0x6, start 32, end = 204799, size 204768 : OK sd0s2: type 0xa5, start 204800, end = 3450879, size 3246080 : OK sd1s1: type 0xa5, start 0, end = 2109375, size 2109376 : OK sd1s1: type 0xa5, start 0, end = 2109375, size 2109376 : OK Thanks Bob Dunaway bob@rdsw.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 17:39:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA21127 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xlnt.com (elaine.xlnt.com [204.178.216.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21122 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elaine by xlnt.com (8.5/SMI-4.1) id RAA15292; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:40:03 -0700 Message-ID: <31E2FBE1.41C67EA6@xlnt.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 17:40:01 -0700 From: Lawrence Pollack Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: larry@xlnt.com Subject: PS/2 Mouse support X-URL: http://www.freebsd.com/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am attempting to support a PS/2 mouse for use with XFree86. I have looked through the archives and found many similar questions, but no answers. I have an AST computer with a PS/2 mouse port on the motherboard. I have a Logitech PS/2 mouse. I have configured the kernel to support the psm device and installed the device in /dev. When the system boots, it recognizes the existance of psm0. Here are the boot messages: -- FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #3: Mon Jul 1 11:20:01 PDT 1996 larry@astbsd:/usr/src/sys/compile/ATAPI CPU: 60-MHz Pentium 510\\60 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x515 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 12582912 (12288K bytes) avail memory = 10743808 (10492K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x63 irq 12 on motherboard fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 514MB (1054368 sectors), 1046 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0: disabled, not probed. uha0: disabled, not probed. aic0: disabled, not probed. nca0: disabled, not probed. nca1: disabled, not probed. sea0: disabled, not probed. wt0: disabled, not probed. scd0: disabled, not probed. 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 11 on isa ep0: aui/utp[*UTP*] address 00:20:af:24:c6:84 irq 11 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the PCI bus: pci0:0: VLSI, device=0x0005, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] pci0:1: VLSI, device=0x0006, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] vga0 rev 142 int a irq 10 on pci0:8 When I start XFree86, the following information is displayed: XFree86 Version 3.1.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6001) Operating System: FreeBSD 2.0.5 Configured drivers: SVGA: server for 8-bit colour SVGA (Patchlevel 0): et4000, et4000w32, et4000w32i, et4000w32p, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, vgawonder, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga9000, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, oti067, oti077, oti087, mx, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ct65520, ct65530, ct65540, ct65545, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, realtek, generic Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 4) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psm0, baudrate: 1200, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Cirrus Logic GD543x" (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "Shamrock17" (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted. Warning: The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. Warning: The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. Warning: The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75 dpi/" (--) SVGA: chipset: clgd5434 (--) SVGA: videoram: 1024k (--) SVGA: clocks: 25.23 28.32 41.16 36.08 31.50 39.99 45.08 49.87 (--) SVGA: clocks: 64.98 72.16 75.00 80.01 85.23 90.00 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 91.112 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 75.000, clock used = 74.999 (**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 40.000, clock used = 39.991 (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 31.500, clock used = 31.499 (**) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1152x900 (--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024 (--) SVGA: clgd5434: Internal memory clock register is 0x1c (Standard RAS) (**) SVGA: clgd5434: Approximate DRAM bandwidth for drawing: 25 of 100 MB/s (--) SVGA: clgd5434: 11776 bytes off-screen memory available (--) SVGA: clgd5434: Using hardware cursor (--) SVGA: clgd5434: Using accelerator functions (--) SVGA: clgd5434: Using BitBLT engine PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M[1] 176 [2] 177 [3] 178 The kernel is configured with the following entries: device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # options PSM_NO_RESET #don't reset mouse hardware (some laptops) # options ALLOW_CONFLICT_IOADDR The XFConfig86 file has the following Pointer section: # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/psm0" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout 50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection After starting XFree86, the mouse does not respond. If I enable the PSM_NO_RESET and ALLOW_CONFLICT_IOADDR options in the kernel configuration file, then when I start XFree86, the keyboard works until I touch the mouse. After that, neither the keyboard nor the mouse respond at all. I would greatly appreciate any guidance on getting the PS/2 mouse to work. Please e-mail any responses or requests for additional information. Thanks. /======================================================================\ | Lawrence J. Pollack | | | XLNT Designs, Inc. | Voice : 619-487-9320 | | Internet: larry@xlnt.com | Fax : 619-487-9768 | | Web: http://www.xlnt.com | The usual disclaimers apply. | \======================================================================/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 17:46:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA21365 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clipper.cs.kiev.ua (root@cs-demon-64k.cs.kiev.ua [193.124.48.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21332 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dog by clipper.cs.kiev.ua with uucp id m0udn9Y-0004xRC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 03:29 WET DST Received: (from dk@localhost) by dog.farm.org (8.7.5/dk#3) id UAA22684 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:07:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Message-Id: <199607100007.UAA22684@dog.farm.org> Subject: iijppp on-demand to slirp-1.0c - reset requests? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: dk+@ua.net X-Class: Fast X-OS-Of-Choice: FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP X-NIC-Handle: DK379 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi, I hate to sound like a clueless newbie ;-), but anyway: I am running FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP . I want to setup on-demand ppp from my machine to the other one which runs slirp 1.0c (in PPP mode). The remote system is running SunOS 4.1.3_U1, and I am logging through Annex terminal server (via telnet -s - does this ensure clean connection?). I run ppp -auto ccs, then I ping to my remote slirp ppp address (10.0.2.2). This starts dialing. Looking at modem lights and /var/log/ppp.log, I see that it connects, then logins (my login script ends with `Ready' to ensure that slirp is really started). After that, it starts some sort of PPP negotiation (I know very little about ppp; I have used slip all my life and was happy with it, but now I want to run ppp). Happily discovering its address, ppp then prints infinite loop of these lines to the log file: 07-09 19:43:32 [22460] CCP: Received Reset Request (9) state = Opend (9) 07-09 19:43:32 [22460] CCP: RecvResetReq 07-09 19:43:32 [22460] CCP: SendResetAck telnet to remote host address (slirp faked one, 10.0.2.2) doesn't work after that ( I understand that ping shouldn't work over slirp ). I get the following state information from ppp (by telnet localhost 3000): PPP ON dog> show ccp CCP [Opend] myproto = OUI, hisproto = OUI Input: 0 --> 0, Output: 0 --> 0 PPP ON dog> show escape 0xff PPP ON dog> show lcp LCP [Opend] his side: MRU 552, ACCMAP ffffffff, PROTOCOMP 1, ACFCOMP 1 MAGIC 18684a83 my side: MRU 1500, ACCMAP ffffffff, PROTOCOMP 1, ACFCOMP 1 MAGIC 1c26acee Defaults: MRU = 1500, ACCMAP = ffffffff Open Mode: passive PPP ON dog> show hdlc HDLC level errors FCS: 2 ADDR: 0 COMMAND: 0 PROTO: 0 PPP ON dog> show ipcp IPCP [Opend] his side: 10.0.2.2, 2d0f01 my side: 10.0.2.15, 2d0f00 connected: 108 secs, idle: 107 secs Defaults: My Address: 0.0.0.0/0 His Address: 10.0.2.2/32 Negotiation: 0.0.0.0/0 PPP ON dog> show proto Protocol in out Protocol in out IP : 0, 1 VJ_UNCOMP: 0, 0 VJ_COMP : 0, 0 COMPD : 0, 0 LCP : 3, 3 IPCP : 4, 5 CCP : 3, 3 PAP : 0, 0 LQR : 0, 5 CHAP : 0, 0 Others : 0, 0 I must admit that all of these mean almost nothing to me (ok, I can understand what LCP and VJ_COMP mean, and I know that PAP and CHAP are some auth schemes which I don't use/need anyway, but what's these FCS errors in HDLC section?) It also seems strange that I see 1500 as local mtu, although ifconfig shows 552. my configuration is as follows (only relevant lines are shown): /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: default: set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 19200 # disable lqr # deny lqr set debug chat phase lqr lcp set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER ABORT NO\\sDIALTONE TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1 Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" ccs: set phone t5201000 set login "..." set timeout 600 # set ifaddr 10.0.2.15 10.0.2.2 set ifaddr 0 10.0.2.2 set escape ff set accmap ffffffff #set openmode active # add 0 255.0.0.0 10.0.2.2 /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup: MYADDR: add 0 0 HISADDR I have tried to fiddle with openmode, lqr and ifaddr (see commented out line), as well as with initiate-options and ipcp-accept-remote on the host side. This doesn't help. my remote slirp configuration is as follows: .slirprc: baudrate 9600 socket shell /usr/local/bin/tcsh mtu 552 mru 552 add exec tcsh:10.0.2.4:513 .slirprc-0: baudrate 9600 ppp debugppp asyncmap ffffffff escape ff #escape 11,13 initiate-options ipcp-accept-remote ppp_exit I start slirp as slirp -l 0 (for possible link-resumption capability). As you see, I was paranoid enough to include all control chars, as well as 255 (telnet cookie), into both configs. I got the following in my remote slirp_pppdebug file: slirppp: PPP is down now ppp_set_xaccm: extended xmit asyncmap set to 80000000000000000000000000000000600 00000000000000000000000000000 ppp_send_config: mtu set to 552 ppp_send_config: (xmit) asyncmap set to ffffffff ppp_recv_config: (recv) asyncmap set to 00000000 : mru set to 1500 Received a packet of 32 bytes, protocol = 0xc021 Received a packet of 24 bytes, protocol = 0xc021 Received a packet of 24 bytes, protocol = 0xc021 ppp_send_config: mtu set to 552 ppp_send_config: (xmit) asyncmap set to ffffffff ppp_send_config: compressing the protocol field ppp_send_config: compressing the address field ppp_recv_config: (recv) asyncmap set to ffffffff : mru set to 552 Received a packet of 16 bytes, protocol = 0x8021 Received a packet of 6 bytes, protocol = 0x80fd Received a packet of 4 bytes, protocol = 0xc021 LCP terminated at peer's request slirppp: PPP is down now ppp_send_config: mtu set to 552 ppp_send_config: (xmit) asyncmap set to ffffffff ppp_recv_config: (recv) asyncmap set to 00000000 : mru set to 1500 Received a packet of 10 bytes, protocol = 0x8021 Received a packet of 16 bytes, protocol = 0x8021 Connection terminated. I got the following in my local /var/log/ppp.log: 07-09 19:41:15 [22459] Using interface: tun0 07-09 19:41:15 [22460] Listening at 3000. 07-09 19:41:15 [22460] PPP Started. 07-09 19:41:17 [22460] Dial attempt 1 07-09 19:41:17 [22460] Expecting [... dial/login script skipped ] 07-09 19:41:58 [22460] Expecting Ready 07-09 19:41:58 [22460] Wait for (40): Ready --> Ready 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] LCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] LCP: state change Closed --> Stopped 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] LCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Stopped (3) 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] MRU 552 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] ACCMAP ffffffff 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] MAGICNUM 45ece2fa 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] PROTOCOMP 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] ACFCOMP 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] LCP: SendConfigReq 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] ACFCOMP 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] PROTOCOMP 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] ACCMAP [6] ffffffff 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] MRU [4] 1500 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] MAGICNUM [6] ce1f310c 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] QUALPROTO (3000) 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] LCP: SendConfigAck(Stopped) 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] MRU 552 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] ACCMAP ffffffff 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] MAGICNUM 45ece2fa 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] PROTOCOMP 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] ACFCOMP 07-09 19:42:00 [22460] LCP: state change Stopped --> Ack-Sent 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] LCP: Received Configure Reject (1) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] LCP: RecvConfigRej. 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] QUALPROTO proto: c025, interval: 30000ms 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] LCP: SendConfigReq 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] ACFCOMP 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] PROTOCOMP 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] ACCMAP [6] ffffffff 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] MRU [4] 1500 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] MAGICNUM [6] ce1f310c 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] LCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] LCP: LayerUp 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] Phase: Authenticate 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] his = 0, mine = 0 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] Phase: Network 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPCP Up event!! 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPCP: SendConfigReq 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPADDR [6] 0.0.0.0 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] COMPPROTO [6] 002d0f00 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPCP: state change Closed --> Req-Sent 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] CCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] CCP Up event!! 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] CCP: SendConfigReq 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] CCP: state change Closed --> Req-Sent 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPADDR[6] 134.117.1.17 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPCP: SendConfigNak(Req-Sent) 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] IPADDR[6] 10.0.2.2 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] CCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] CCP: SendConfigAck(Req-Sent) 07-09 19:42:01 [22460] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPCP: Received Configure Nak (1) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPADDR[6] 10.0.2.15 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPADDR[6] changing address: 0.0.0.0 --> 10.0.2.15 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPCP: SendConfigReq 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPADDR [6] 10.0.2.15 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] COMPPROTO [6] 002d0f00 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] CCP: Received Configure Reject (1) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] CCP: RecvConfigRej. 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] PRED1[2] 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] CCP: SendConfigReq 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPADDR[6] 10.0.2.2 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPCP: SendConfigAck(Req-Sent) 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPADDR[6] 10.0.2.2 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] IPCP: LayerUp. 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] myaddr = 10.0.2.15 hisaddr = 10.0.2.2 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] OsLinkup: 10.0.2.2 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] CCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] CCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] CCP: LayerUp. 07-09 19:42:02 [22460] myproto = 0, hisproto = 0 07-09 19:42:22 [22460] CCP: Received Reset Request (2) state = Opend (9) 07-09 19:42:22 [22460] CCP: RecvResetReq 07-09 19:42:22 [22460] CCP: SendResetAck 07-09 19:42:23 [22460] CCP: Received Reset Request (2) state = Opend (9) 07-09 19:42:23 [22460] CCP: RecvResetReq 07-09 19:42:23 [22460] CCP: SendResetAck 07-09 19:42:28 [22460] CCP: Received Reset Request (3) state = Opend (9) 07-09 19:42:28 [22460] CCP: RecvResetReq 07-09 19:42:28 [22460] CCP: SendResetAck 07-09 19:42:29 [22460] CCP: Received Reset Request (4) state = Opend (9) 07-09 19:42:29 [22460] CCP: RecvResetReq 07-09 19:42:29 [22460] CCP: SendResetAck 07-09 19:42:30 [22460] CCP: Received Reset Request (4) state = Opend (9) 07-09 19:42:30 [22460] CCP: RecvResetReq 07-09 19:42:30 [22460] CCP: SendResetAck [... the same three lines continue, until I kill the ppp process or close session ...] sorry for this long mail, but I really really want to fix this and I hope that at least some of the preceding information would help to sched some light on this. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 17:57:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA21886 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21881 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ag11691; 10 Jul 96 0:57 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa14186; 10 Jul 96 1:44 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA03968; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:02:55 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:02:55 GMT Message-Id: <199607100002.AAA03968@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: mbeausej@qc.bell.ca CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31E2BC66.2781E494@blmc36.qc.bell.ca> (message from Michel Beausejour on Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:09:10 -0400) Subject: Re: binary editor (hexfile editor) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a hexfile editor which can print the ascii code aside the > hexcode? Yep, hexdump(1) and od(1) from the command-line, or hexl-mode in Emacs can all do this. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 18:02:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22124 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22117 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp26.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12918; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:02:38 +0500 Received: by ppp26.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6DD9.D5588660@ppp26.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:01:43 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6DD9.D5588660@ppp26.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: 2.1R-->2.1.5R Using SUP. Possible? Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:01:42 -0400 Encoding: 23 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am currently running 2.1.0 Release and would like to upgrade to the 2.1.5 Release when it comes out. Is it possible to do this using SUP? I've read the documentation in the Online handbook and had a few questions. In order to do this upgrade do I use the /usr/..../stable-supfile? Also how long does it usually take to download these binaries using a 28.8 dialup PPP connection? I figure I can always add the ports collection in later so I would be downloading just the main FreeBSD distribution and the secure and eBones collection. The reason for my question is that my ISP drops the link automatically after 3 hours. I currently have a custom built kernel (IDE CD-ROM). Once I have all of the source, do I have to rebuild the kernel after I do a 'make world'? As you can probably tell I am new to FreeBSD/Unix. I am interested in knowing the exact steps/commands that I have to issue once I have finished with SUP. Any info or pointers to info would be appreciated.. Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 18:13:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22639 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22634 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA08163 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:11:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:11:26 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607100111.SAA08163@MediaCity.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: telnetd: All network ports in use. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Which system resource needs to be increased to alleviate this problem? brian From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 18:25:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23294 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail0.iij.ad.jp (root@mail0.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23287 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucp1.iij.ad.jp (uucp1.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.73]) by mail0.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-MAIL) with ESMTP id KAA04130; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:25:00 +0900 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp1.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-UUCP) with UUCP id KAA26507; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:25:00 +0900 Received: from xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp by yyy.kgc.co.jp (8.7.5/3.4W:95122611) id JAA21909; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:40:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost by xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp (8.6.12/3.3W8:95062916) id JAA03996; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:40:36 +0900 Message-Id: <199607100040.JAA03996@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getty(8) don't show `login:' prompt In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:33:28 -0600 (MDT)" References: <199607091633.KAA18396@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.2, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:40:36 +0900 From: Toshihiro Kanda Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: Nate Williams Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:33:28 -0600 (MDT) > > I'm using FreeBSD 2.1R. I wanted to login via modem, but got > > difficulty... Getty didn't show `login:' to remote terminal. > > > > After a short hacking /usr/src/libexec/getty/, I found a delay fixes > > this problem. > > Umm, it worked fine on my box running 2.1R until last week, when I > upgraded to 2.1.5-Alpha, and it still works fine. :) I wonder if my serial chip (on the Intel ZAPPA mother board) was broken :-( There was strange phenomenon: a getty without the deley patch never showed `login:', but if I did `cat /dev/ttyd1' while the getty waiting ttyd1, and I called by a modem, then the getty showed the prompt!! > Are you sure the modem is correctly configured to raise the proper > signals when it answers the phone? Also, try hitting return before > expecting the login prompt. I believe I did it. I configured the modem by the followings. AT&F AT&C1 (DCD signal follows modem CD signal) AT&D3 (Reset when DTR on-to-off transition) ATS0=1 (Auto answer) AT&W (Write parameters) Edited /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab, then kill(1)'ed -HUP 1. --------- /etc/ttys --------- ttyd1 "/usr/local/sbin/getty std.38400" unknown on insecure --------- /etc/gettytab --------- std.38400|38400-baud:\ :np:sp#38400:im=\r\nUNIX(r) System V Release 4.0 (cusinart)\r\n\r\n: ------------------------------- candy@fct.kgc.co.jp (Toshihiro Kanda) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 18:25:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23331 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23325 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab19255; 10 Jul 96 1:24 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa14192; 10 Jul 96 1:44 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA04004; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:31:48 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:31:48 GMT Message-Id: <199607100031.AAA04004@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: matt@bdd.net CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Matthew Stein on Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:36:22 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > After reinstalling FreeBSD (2.1.0-R, 2.1-Stable-snap, 2.2-Current-snap) > the kernel boot sequence determines it's on sd1, and proceeds to try and > mount root there. Hmm. The install program's reasoning appears to be "this is the second disk, and it's a SCSI disk, so it must be... the second SCSI disk!" > I have no sd1, and the system properly finds the drive during the boot > sequence as sd0. I can make the system boot properly by either using the > "hd(1,a)/kernel" option at init, or the "-r" option at init. Yep, this is how to boot FreeBSD off a SCSI disk when there's also an IDE disk around... > When I boot with hd(1,a)/kernel, the init lines indicates that I'm not > booting from sd0, not sd1, as it would default. This doesn't seem to be > an option during my kernel build, so what might be wrong? The answer is in the bootblocks on the IDE drive that specify which drive to boot from. If you get bored typing hd(1,a)/kernel every time you boot, here's how to change them so it happens automatically:- # cd /sys/i386/boot/biosboot # vi boot.c part = 0; unit = 1; maj = 1; # make # disklabel -B -b boot1 -s boot2 wd0 -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 18:53:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA25364 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eng3.iastate.edu (eng3.iastate.edu [129.186.1.112]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA25304 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eng3.iastate.edu with sendmail-5.65 id ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:52:36 -0500 Message-Id: <9607100152.AA17748@eng3.iastate.edu> To: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: I want to get tcsh and Emacs Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 20:52:36 CDT From: Babak Sehari Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have an unsupported CDROM. I already installed FreeBSD on my compuer. Now I would like to get the tcsh and emacs added to it. I printed and red the handbook, but it does not say anything about how to install these packages with an unsupported CDROM. I copied the tcsh port and tcsh_6.06 from the disk to my hard drive, Then I mounted the Dos drive and can read it from Unix fine. Also, I get masages like: lndir not found and when I try installing it using pkg_manage or pkg_add, I can not do it. pkg_manage is looking for *.tgz which is not part of the files I copied from CDROM. Can some one give me hint? With highest regards, Babak Sehari From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 19:06:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26432 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26427 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA15696; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" X-Sender: ejs@harlie To: dk+@ua.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iijppp on-demand to slirp-1.0c - reset requests? In-Reply-To: <199607100007.UAA22684@dog.farm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Dmitry Kohmanyuk wrote: > slirp is really started). After that, it starts some sort of PPP negotiation > (I know very little about ppp; I have used slip all my life and was happy > with it, but now I want to run ppp). Happily discovering its address, > ppp then prints infinite loop of these lines to the log file: > > 07-09 19:43:32 [22460] CCP: Received Reset Request (9) state = Opend (9) > 07-09 19:43:32 [22460] CCP: RecvResetReq > 07-09 19:43:32 [22460] CCP: SendResetAck Looks quite familiar. I haven't determined why yet, but I got the same thing dialing into a linux 2.0 box running ppp 2.2.0f. The problem went away when I did deny pred1 disable pred1 but I'd like to find out how to turn them back on :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 19:15:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26939 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ryoohki.apricot.com (scanner@ryoohki.apricot.com [206.14.224.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26923 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ryoohki.apricot.com (scanner@localhost) by ryoohki.apricot.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA16279 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:16:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199607100216.TAA16279@ryoohki.apricot.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multi-processors Reply-To: scanner@apricot.com X-URI: http://www.apricot.com/~scanner/ X-Face: 6K2.ZvQgQ.NDQLIx.1pW(xRu*">:}&PX-Ad_!!?wU7H4L"wF"0xEwYu=8Or0V+=5?-eO1XL 7-0Hom/|]B2C7Uznyol-NVnvEk:+sod^MyB4v4qVpPDemr;b@pZdRSXu.'Gm^t0?2l,j[&t.kbc[UW x6Lz^e$K$W Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 19:16:27 -0700 From: Scanner Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Gary Palmer" writes: >Probably wise. I'd love to see a MUD that could eat a P166! I know >that LambdaMOO too a SPARC down to it's knees, but that was a memory >problem (it's a memory hog) as far as I remember. That, and SPARC's >(or the ones that were used to run LambdaMOO on) aren't all that fast >by modern standards :-) However, the original LambdaMOO at Xerox PARC does run on a multiprocessor machine and gains from it. I believe the gains, though, are because the LambdaMOO server, although single-threaded, does a fork() to check point the current state of the server. The other two processors on this machine are of no real benefit for the LambdaMOO itself, but help when an admin wants to poke around on the machine. --Scanner (scanner@apricot.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 19:54:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA29522 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29505 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DATAPLEX.NET (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA10485 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:53:50 -0700 Received: from 199.183.109.242 by DATAPLEX.NET with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:45:21 -0600 Message-Id: Date: 9 Jul 1996 21:45:07 -0500 From: "Richard Wackerbarth" Subject: Re: 2.1R-->2.1.5R Using SUP. Possible? To: "Anil John" Cc: "'FreeBSD Questions'" X-Mailer: Mail*Link PT/Internet 1.6.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John writes: > I am currently running 2.1.0 Release and would like to upgrade to the 2.1.5 > Release when it comes out. Is it possible to do this using SUP? [snip] > Also how long does it usually take to download these binaries using a 28.8 If you obtain the source for the -stable branch, you will have to compile the entire system (aka make world) as well as the kernel. If, instead, you wish to do an installation, you will need to download the tarballs, either apriori or while online. With the slow link, I'm not sure that you will be able to do the install online within your time limit. If you choose to go the source route, remember that the source is at least 28Meg COMPRESSED. However, if you use either sup or ctm, you can start accumulating the source. The changes that happen from today's source to the release source will not be extensive. If you have the 2.1.0 release CD, you might consider ctm rather than sup. By using ctm and the cd, you can eliminate perhaps 15Meg or more of download. -- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 20:05:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00469 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00462 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA07238 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:05:21 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA04222; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:43:15 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607092243.PAA04222@starshine> Subject: Re: Sendmail configuration To: olivier@silvercom.cica.fr Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E25831.7C72@silvercom.cica.fr> from "Olivier Siegwart" at Jul 9, 96 03:01:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi everyboby ! > > I've installed sendmail as STMP agent as I installed FreeBSD. > My machine is called silvercom.cica.fr, hostname silvercom > When I send mail to web@silvercom.cica.fr all is ok > > Then I have an alias in the DNS : www.silvercom.com and > silvercom.cica.fr have got the same IP address. > > When I send a mail to web@www.silvercom.com I get the mail back > with the following error : > """"""""" > The original message was received at Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:06:25 +0200 > from silvercom1.ens.ecp.fr [138.195.50.86] It looks like your MX records (in your DNS tables) have the desired values (but you may want to check them in any event -- just make sure that your www's host's MX record has a lower value than the MX record for your mailhost). In the /etc/sendmail.cf you'll want to change the Cw macro line to list the other hosts for which you'll want this host to accept mail. For example mine reads like: Cw starshine.org jadehome.starshine.org starhome.starshine.org ... which forces my machine to accept mail for both hosts in my little LAN at home (the other machines don't have hostnames yet. I've heard that there's a way to configure some versions of sendmail to accept mail for a large number of hosts without explicitly listing them in the Cw line -- I'd love to hear more about that. > Can someone help me to configure sendmail.cf so tha I can receive > mail with both address web@silvercm.cica.fr and web@www.silvercom.com While you're at it, I'd suggest configuring the www.silvercom.com host to masquerade (sendmail.cf's CM macro) so that mail from it appears to come from the domain itself. A typical webhost machine won't have enough accounts on it to risk having sendmail listening for incoming connections. I would back this up with pulling senmdmail out of the inetd.conf files and adding a cron job to do sendmail -q (this tells sendmail to process the queue -- you leave off the -bd such that it is *not* instructed to "become a daemon") I would then back this up with tcp_wrappers and packet filters. The webhost can then send mail -- but not receive it. This is just a good policy. If the www. machine has general shell accounts on it than you still have a couple of options (one would be to have the users on that machine use popclient to fetch their mail -- either on demand or via cron -- another would be to run the sendmail daemon and configure aliases on the mailhost to forward the mail). > Please Help (SOS) > Olivier Siegwart > Silvercom Multimedia From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 20:07:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00542 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00537 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA07271 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:05:38 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA04288; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:28:23 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607100028.RAA04288@starshine> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de, terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607091827.LAA24694@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 9, 96 11:27:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Here is my take on divorcing the front end technology from the > utility<->front end data interchange grammar: > > It would look like a method of defining CLI utilities (initially > by hand with UI requirements), and a UI library consumer that could > talk to a CLI written the right way to marshall the data to the > UI code and the UI event back to CLI commands. > > So there is a need for two defined interfaces and a framework: > > ,------------------------------------------. > | UIM (User Interface Manager) | > `------------------------------------------' > /\ /\ > || || > \/ \/ > ,-------------------. ,-------------------. > | CLI | | UI | > `-------------------' `-------------------' > > The CLI recognizes that it has been opened via pipe, and goes into > "transaction mode". Each command is responded immediately with a > single character feedback of '0' (success) or '1' (error). I gather that your trying to devise a way that allows you to fork once and have the underlying (CLI) tool respond to an arbitrary number of commands (transactions) before being explicitly closed. For some tools this certainly makes more sense than my original suggestion (which implied building a separate command line for each request). By why limit it's to one character? If you're saying that the CLI tool should act like a shell when invoked from the shell with no arguments (a reasonable thought) then why not set it up so that this "shell's" "prompt" starts with a status code for the last issued command -- thus you only have one interface to write and test rather than two ("pipe mode" vs. "shell/CLI" mode). Even for interactive use this is reasonably good information (I have, in the past, configured my shell prompts to include $? (bash) so I'm aware, at a glance, of what sorts of return/error codes various programs provide under various circumstances. I don't think that this suggestion (treat the CLI is a "shell/command interpreter" and provide reasonable error messages and prompts, will interfere with any of the other elements you outline. I'd still recommend that there exist options to log the exact dialogs/sessions between the interactive front end and the CLI back end. I'd also still recommend that the CLI be able to accept a full range of command line options (even if that follows the 'awk' model of having rather verbose command line syntax). Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 20:12:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00997 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00989 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA07250 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:05:30 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA04260; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:45:18 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607092345.QAA04260@starshine> Subject: Re: Samba FS planned to implement? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: igor@cs.ibank.ru, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607091833.LAA24711@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 9, 96 11:33:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > re, > > > > smbclient - cool but interactive. :) > > I have a proposal on the table (in a news group posting) for session > management and a password cache interface. These are prerequisites > for a correct implementation. The Linux implementation is incorrect, > and opens security holes you could drive a truck through. This > would not be so bad if the default configuration was not so badly > thought out that you could drive three trucks and a blimp through. Could you be a bit more specific (perhaps with a message copied to bugtraq or linux-alert)? In particular my question is this -- the smbfs is an smb client -- it has nothing to do with exporting your Unix volumes to others (which is handled by smbd AFAIK). So, are you saying that there are problems where a single user (on a Linux host) mounting an SMB share (on an NT or Win '95 system for example) will allow other users (on the Linux side) access to the shared volume? Are you saying that it allows the user in question more access than smbtar/smbclient? > Remember the CERT advisort for Microsoft SMB servers? Of course I remember it. I added additional packet filters to prevent propagation of those protocols through our routers (former employer) and recommended that WfW and Win '95 systems be reconfigured to disable sharing throughout the enterprise (as I recall NT systems could be configured to avoid the problem). > Imagine it applying to all of your UNIX systems. > As I recall the SAMBA server didn't have this problem -- it was the client that exposed the underlying server-side vulnerability in the MS products. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to carry around any misinformation on this issue. > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 21:23:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05290 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05282 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01768; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:24:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:24:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: jamie cc: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SIGPIPE in jun12 SNAP install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, jamie wrote: > I have gone through the archives and I haven't found anything on this. > I have been trying to install the jun 12 SNAP and it almost gets there... > But, when I try to install the packages, I look in the "emergency VTY" > and it tells me that it can't pkg_add because of a SIGPIPE error. Someone > has pointed out to me that this may meant that (in all likelyhood) when > it tries to pipe something to tar, tar is no longer a process. His other > suggestion was that it may not be tar, but it seems that a command it > being piped to a dead process or non-existant string. What is the complete text of the error message(s)? A bad archive will cause this. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 21:25:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05402 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05397 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01778; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:26:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Juan Savioli cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Win 95 +FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <96Jul5.074629gmt.39681@gateway.dhi.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Juan Savioli wrote: > I have a PC with Windows 95 and I want to install FreeBSD. > I checked in the FAQ, and they say I install Windows 95 > first and then FreeBSD. But what does it mean? I have to > go to the DOS prompt and install it as if I were in DOS, > or in another way. You're OK. That advice is if you are totally reinstalling everything. Win95's setup overwrites the boot sector, where to boot manager goes. Installing it first circumvents that problem. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 21:27:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05463 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05457 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01785; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Joao Alves Junior cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange reboots!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Joao Alves Junior wrote: > I have a machine whith FreeBSD 2.1 and a serial multiport accepting calls. > Since last weekend this machine is rebooting automatically. I give the > commands "top", "iostat", "vmstat", "netstat" and everything looks well. What is the dmesg and syslog (/var/log/messages) output? It may be panicking. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 21:27:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05528 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05523 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01792; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:28:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:28:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail In-Reply-To: <199607051520.MAA05626@unix1.ism.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica wrote: > It's not actually a FreeBSD question, but anyway: > > I just installed Sendmail 8.7.5 in a FreeBSD box., very easy to install. > It's working, but when I give: > > telnet server 25 > > I get in return > > ... ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.6.12 ... > ^^^^^^ why this ? Anything related do sendmail.cf ? That is the version id of the sendmail.cf file, nothing to worry about at all. (You installed an upgraded version of sendmail, and not an upgraded version of the config.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 21:28:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05604 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05599 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01799; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:28:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jack Ham cc: questions Subject: Re: THANK YOU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Jack Ham wrote: > I started using freebsd at home several months ago and plan on using it on > a new server at work in the near future. If the way my 486 at home runs > under freebsd is any indication, the Solaris box we have now is going to look > like one fat hog. I just wanted to express my appreciation to everyone > participating in the freebsd project for providing a great, stable os. So > far all of my questions have been answered by the lists before I can ask > them. Can't ask for better support than that. 8-) You're very welcome. It's what we're here for after all. :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 22:33:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA08956 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 22:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA08950 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 22:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA19675 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 22:33:01 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA04711; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:43 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607100427.VAA04711@starshine> Subject: Re: binary editor (hexfile editor) To: mbeausej@QC.Bell.CA (Michel Beausejour) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E2BC66.2781E494@blmc36.qc.bell.ca> from "Michel Beausejour" at Jul 9, 96 04:09:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is there a hexfile editor which can print the ascii code aside the > hexcode? GNUmacs: M-x hexlify-buffer (load emacs; hit the {Esc} key, then the "x" key and then type hexlify-buffer (or type 'hex{Tab} to invoke emacs function-name completion). Or look for beav (Binary Editor And Viewer) which is a Linux package -- or a DOS package that's been ported to Linux (I don't know if there's a FreeBSD port). Finally you could use 'hexdump' to create a temp file, vi to edit it, and something to convert it back (ugly). Obviously if you already have GNUmacs and know the basics that's the most painless. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 22:54:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA12273 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ftp.iis.com.br (root@ftp.iis.com.br [200.255.216.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA12223 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 22:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inside.UUCP (uuins2@localhost) by ftp.iis.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id CAA01187 for QUESTIONS@FREEBSD.ORG; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:47:49 -0300 To: QUESTIONS@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe From: francisco.rappel@inside.com (FRANCISCO RAPPEL) Message-ID: <8C43054.00C8004F50.uuout@inside.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 01:24:00 -0300 Organization: INSIDE BBS - RIO/BRAZIL - +55-21-537-1603 Reply-To: francisco.rappel@inside.com (FRANCISCO RAPPEL) X-Mailreader: PCBoard Version 15.22 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.20 Sender: owner-questions@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe questions Francisco Eduarddo Rappel Francisco "Fran" Eduardo Rappel Rio de Janeiro, RJ, Brazil frappel@inside.com frappel@inside.com.br --- * KWQ/2 1.2i NR * From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 23:04:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA12922 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eng3.iastate.edu (eng3.iastate.edu [129.186.1.112]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12915 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eng3.iastate.edu with sendmail-5.65 id ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:04:11 -0500 Message-Id: <9607100604.AA21176@eng3.iastate.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Answer to my own question Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:04:10 CDT From: Babak Sehari Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I just why cann't I install the packages from an un supported CDROM. The reason is dos is stupid 8+3 name space OS, so things like emacs_6.60.tgz will be saved as emacs_6.60; therefore, the pkg_manager won't find them as .tgz files. The solution is simple just change the extension to .tgz. For example, emacs_6.60 in the dos directory should be named emacs.tgz for example. Since, I learned how to install pakages from various sources, I amy as well write the document for it in the BSD handbook. With highest regards, Babak Sehari From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 23:06:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13119 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rolta.com (firewall-user@gatekeeper.rolta.com [165.113.135.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13091 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rolta.com; id AAA14207; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:51:40 -0500 Received: from 68f800.rolta.com(204.177.195.25) by gatekeeper.rolta.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma014205; Wed, 10 Jul 96 00:51:13 -0500 Received: by 68f800.rolta.com (5.65c/1.920109) id AA18870; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:31:43 GMT From: vdongre@rolta.com (Vrushal Dongre) Message-Id: <199607101131.AA18870@68f800.rolta.com> Subject: Korn Shell...anyone ? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 11:31:41 IST X-Mailer: ELM [version 07.00.00.00 (2.3 PL11)] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello All ! Has the Korn Shell ( ksh ) been ported to FreeBSD ? Is the restricted version of the same (krsh ) also available? If it is, can anyone tell me where i can get it ? I am running FBSD 2.0 & would like to restrict the capabilities of the users who are going to use the system only for sending & receiving mail. Cheers, Vrushal. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vrushal Dongre Email: vdongre@rolta.com " Nothing, is the worst thing that can happen to anybody " -Richard Bach ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 23:09:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13272 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliff.bms.com (cliff.bms.com [140.176.1.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13267 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccgate0.bms.com by cliff.bms.com (PMDF V5.0-7 #15142) id <01I6U1TFWQY80047UN@cliff.bms.com>; Mon, 08 Jul 1996 15:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccMail by ccgate0.bms.com (SMTPLINK V2.11 PreRelease 4) id AA836863826; Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:52:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:52:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey M. Metcalf" Subject: Increase Swap space? To: questions@freebsd.org, metcalf@imagine.com Message-id: <9606088368.AA836863826@ccgate0.bms.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I recently upgraded my RAM from 16MB to 32MB. I typically run fvwm, netscape, TeX, emacs and gcc and will probably never have more than 2 users on the system at any given time. When I installed my system, I only dedicated 32MB of swap space. I have read some discussion that swap space should be 32MB or 2.5 times the size of physical memory, whichever is larger. Do you feel that I should increase swap space to get the optimal benefit from my new RAM upgrade? If so, is there a way to do this without reinstalling my system? A reply to the e-mail address at metcalf@imagine.com would be greatly appreciated. JM PS. I noticed some discussion in the FreeBSD FAQ concerning adding swap space. Should I just follow that procedure, or are there other concerns here? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 23:31:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14385 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14362 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id IAA04329; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:31:03 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (SAA01740); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:49:45 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607091849.SAA01740@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Can I use Linux driver of my CD ROM with FreeBSD? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:49:45 +0000 (GMT) Cc: sehari@iastate.edu In-Reply-To: <9607060245.AA15123@eng3.iastate.edu> from "Babak Sehari" at Jul 5, 96 09:45:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I have an old CD ROM that is controlled by a card CM 250. There is a > linux driver for it. Would such driver work with FreeBSD? I don't know. > My second question is how to make up arrow and down arrow to work with > history. That is when you press uparrow you get the previous command. You cannot do it in csh, but you can do it in FBSD's sh: set -o emacs (or any of the non-standard shells: pdksh/bash: the same, tcsh: set edit) > Finally, how can I make ^D to logout in non root directory. Note that > ^D log me out from the root directory but not from user account. on csh/tcsh: unset ignoreeof on sh/pdksh/bash: set +o ignoreeof || unset ignoreeof -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 9 23:31:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14387 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14368 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id IAA04332; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:31:04 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (SAA01798); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:57:54 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607091857.SAA01798@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Changing prompt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:57:54 +0000 (GMT) Cc: rcutter@ctgusa.com In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960705154424.008cda38@ctgusa.com> from "Ryan Cutter" at Jul 5, 96 11:44:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > How can I change my prompt in FreeBSD to reflect the current > directory I'm in? You saw it in csh/bash. Tcsh is the same as csh, (pd)ksh is the same as bash, but you cannot do the \X stuff, only PS1='$PWD > '. And finally here it is in the standard shell (sh, precisely: ash): cd() { chdir "$@" PS1="`pwd` > " } (It works only in FBSD's sh, in traditional shells, you cannot make a function using the same name as an internal command; and in traditional sh's hasn't got chdir.) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 02:11:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA24752 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA24740 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16151; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:02:27 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:02:27 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199607100832.SAA16151@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: ATuretta@stylo.it, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extra blank page after remote print from WinNT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you wrote: : Hi, Gday! : I'm using a 2.2-960501-SNAP as a printer server in a Windows NT network: the : printer is HP LJ compatible. : NT 3.5 and later can print to a lpd server, but after the actual job has : finished printing, an additional blank page is output. Of course the problem : is not visible when printing from the server itself, nor it is when printing : remotely from another FreeBSD machine. I had this problem when printing from a Win95 machine to my samba server on FreeBSD... In the end I made sure the "extra pagefeed after job finished" was off for win95.... and then I added a :ff=\004:\ in my printcap for that printer being accessed. : Has anybody had the same problem ? : What is your advise as to where to start troubleshooting it (needless to : say, getting rid of NT is not a valid option :-). Grin... why not... think about it more :) Regards, Peter -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds The internet is full, please try again in half an hour... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 02:42:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27041 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27027 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udvmY-000QbzC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 11:42 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA22124; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:23:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199607100823.KAA22124@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Recognizing serial ports (was: FreeBSD 2.1 Help) To: skrishna@cisco.com (Sridhar Krishnan) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:23:26 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: from "Sridhar Krishnan" at Jul 8, 96 04:34:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sridhar Krishnan writes: > > I have not resolved the problem using the internal modem on COM1. Here is the > scenario: > > I have MWave card on IBM Aptiva system that combines the functions of a > Sound Card, some DSP, COM1 Fax/Modem. The COM1 has an i/o address of > 02F8h (0x2f8) and uses IRQ 4. I have PS/2 mouse which is working fine. > > Has anybody heard of the Mwave Card ? I scanned through the FAQ for > hardware support and I could not find any. > > The system also comes with two (extrenal) serial ports A & B which are > configured as COM2 (0x3e8, IRQ 3) and COM3 (0x3e8, IRQ 4). Standard PC hardware will not let you share serial port interrupts. I don't know to what extent your hardware is standard, but the fact that the probes don't recognize your ports suggest that this could be the problem. > I have tried kernel configuration: > - sio0 with 0x2f8 and intr. 4 , with/without conflicts clause > and commented out sio1, sio2 and sio3. I saw the WIN95 config, it shows > COM1 at the above address. > > During boot, the kernel says that sio0 is not configured because 0x2f8 > does not respond. I believe it's looking for an interrupt. The other port is holding the interrupt inactive, so it doesn't get one. > The only way sio0 would work is if I configured my > kernel for 0x38h which is actually COM3. That is why my modem is not > responding (sincve it is configured as COM3). I don't quite understand this, but it's probably not the problem. > How do I get the kernel to recognize sio0 ? Does the serial driver only > recognize serial port cards and not this multi-function card. If so, any > ideas how I can use the built-in modem. I'd suggest that you start by choosing a different IRQ for each of your serial ports. It doesn't matter much which you choose, though I'd personally stick with IRQ 4 for sio0, IRQ3 for sio1, and something else (IRQ2? IRQ5? nothing at all?) for sio2. That way the kernel should recognize it at boot. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 02:42:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27049 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.dolphinet.co.uk ([194.72.241.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27029 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cc@localhost) by tuna.dolphinet.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA12752 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:43:11 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:43:11 +0100 From: Charlie Conklin Message-Id: <199607100943.KAA12752@tuna.dolphinet.co.uk> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Perl problem Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone noticed any problems with the perl formating capability under FreeBSD? This bit of perl (swrite is taken directly from the perlform manpage), core dumps! It works just fine with the FreeBSD ports collection perl5.001, but quite badly for the ports collection perl5.002! I tried upgrading from 2.05 to 2.1.0, but alas it is no better. It is quite sensitive as well to various things. If I delete one of the "<" delimiters on the left most side, it works. - Charlie Conklin use Carp; sub swrite { croak "usage: swrite PICTURE ARGS" unless @_; my $format = shift; $^A = ""; formline($format, @_); return $^A; } my $format = "@<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<@<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<\n"; #GOOD#my $format = "@<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<@<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<\n"; $string = swrite($format, "hello", "world"); print $string; From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 02:45:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27385 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27364 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udvmW-000QbxC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 11:42 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA22135; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:29:01 +0200 Message-Id: <199607100829.KAA22135@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: getty(8) don't show `login:' prompt To: candy@fct.kgc.co.jp (Toshihiro Kanda) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:29:01 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199607090904.SAA01318@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> from "Toshihiro Kanda" at Jul 9, 96 06:04:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Toshihiro Kanda writes: > > I'm using FreeBSD 2.1R. I wanted to login via modem, but got > difficulty... Getty didn't show `login:' to remote terminal. > > After a short hacking /usr/src/libexec/getty/, I found a delay fixes > this problem. > > -------8<---------------8<---------------8<-------- > *** main.c.orig Tue Jul 9 17:25:31 1996 > --- main.c Tue Jul 9 17:24:54 1996 > *************** > *** 176,181 **** > --- 176,184 ---- > sleep(60); > } > login_tty(i); > + #if 1 /* XXX Need delay to continue... I don't know why */ > + sleep(1); > + #endif > } > } > -------8<---------------8<---------------8<-------- No, that looks pretty good to me. In my getty (heavily modified), I have: if (slowmodem) { sleep (slowmodem); /* give modem a chance to wake up */ tcflush (i, TCIFLUSH); /* and throw out any junk */ } >From the man page: -S [delay] causes getty to delay seconds after connection has been established. This is for use with modems which are not ready to communicate with the remote site as soon as they are connected. may be omitted and defaults to 2. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 02:46:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27405 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27375 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (ad14-111.compuserve.com [199.174.141.111]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA00106 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:43:26 -0700 Message-ID: <31E39836.667E@sprynet.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:47:02 -0700 From: Kiyu Gabriel Organization: The Branson Exchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Which files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello- I do apologize for such a simple question - but on your ftp server there are several files that *might* just be the ones that I need to download. What directories do I need to clean out (if there are any)and what file structure needs to be set up within the C:\freebsd directory that I made to assist the installation? Also, how is this "root" disk made? I do sincerely apologize for what must surely sound like the most trivial and maybe even childish questions. I am going to learn to use unix-type systems, and I have to start asking questions somewhere... "He who asks is a fool for a moment; he who does not ask is a fool forever..." Thank you, YBIC, Kiyu Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 02:46:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27434 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.dolphinet.co.uk ([194.72.241.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27427 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cc@localhost) by tuna.dolphinet.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA12782 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:47:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:47:16 +0100 From: Charlie Conklin Message-Id: <199607100947.KAA12782@tuna.dolphinet.co.uk> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Quotas Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone out there using quotas succesfully. I have seen some comments to the effect that they are a bit buggy, and make the system unstable. Has anyone had bad (or good!) experiences with them? Thanks. - Charlie Conklin From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 03:40:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA01739 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 03:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA01734 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 03:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:42:18 +0000 Message-ID: <31E3885F.1454@nation-net.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:39:27 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Forwarding file format Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you give me an example of the format of a forwarding file for sendmail and any other hints. I understand its location is specified in sendmail.cf ? Regards, Paul Walsh. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 04:28:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA06130 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA06121 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:30:11 +0000 Message-ID: <31E39398.7CF9@nation-net.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:27:20 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Backup headache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need a bit of help. I am trying to work out the best way to set up a backup schedule for our web server running freeBSD. It is on a network of macs with an apple workgroup server. This server has several large drives with lots of space and is regularly backed up onto DAT. We can't afford another another DAT for the freeBSD m/c. And I don't really want to have to move the DAT every few days. If I install netatalk will I then be able to dump to the apple server and thus get backed up in the DAT runs? Or will I need to first set up a freeBSD partition - and then what?? Any ideas anyone? Thanks for your time, Paul Walsh. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 04:32:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA06315 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA06310 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA03432; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607101132.EAA03432@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) cc: candy@fct.kgc.co.jp (Toshihiro Kanda), questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) Subject: Re: getty(8) don't show `login:' prompt In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:29:01 +0200." <199607100829.KAA22135@allegro.lemis.de> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:32:24 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> login_tty(i); >> + #if 1 /* XXX Need delay to continue... I don't know why */ >> + sleep(1); >> + #endif >> } >> } >> -------8<---------------8<---------------8<-------- > >No, that looks pretty good to me. In my getty (heavily modified), I >have: > > if (slowmodem) > { > sleep (slowmodem); /* give modem a chance to wake up */ > tcflush (i, TCIFLUSH); /* and throw out any junk */ > } > >>From the man page: > >-S [delay] causes getty to delay seconds after connection has > been established. This is for use with modems which are > not ready to communicate with the remote site as soon as > they are connected. may be omitted and defaults to > 2. I'd prefer to see this implemented as an option in FreeBSD (default to no extra delay if the option is not specified)...like Greg suggests above. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 05:14:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA08087 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 05:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA08082 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 05:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0udx2r-000QbsC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 13:03 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA27347; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:12:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199607101012.MAA27347@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Help With GCC!!! To: alexandr@louie.udel.edu (Jerry Alexandratos) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:12:35 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <9607021702.aa24816@stimpy.eecis.udel.edu> from "Jerry Alexandratos" at Jul 2, 96 01:02:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jerry Alexandratos writes: > > Hi. I'm trying to install gcc with cross-compiler support (why use a pc > when all I need to do is compile software for it?). 8) What are you using, then? FreeBSD only runs on PCs. > Anyway, I was rooting through /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc and I noticed a > README that told me to steer clear and get the complete gcc sources and > use those for me to play with. > > Let me stop right there and let you all know that I'm using 2.1-STABLE > with gcc 2.6.3. It's on a Gateway 2000 P5-75 (though for the question > at hand, I don't think that's really relivant). Agreed. > Back to my story. Looking around the mit archives, I see a 2.5.8 > tarball, and diffs for 2.6.0 to 2.6.3. The diffs for 2.5.8 to 2.6.0 say > that there were many changes and to just get the "latest" tarfile. > > I would've just grabbed 2.7.2, but I remember reading somewhere that > FreeBSD hasn't jumped to that version yet because of a bunch of bugs and > other problems. The problems with 2.7.2 are exaggerated. I'm using it for everything. I believe it will soon become standard on 2.2. > So, does anyone know where I can find a 2.6.3 tarball or at the very > least a 2.6.0 that I can then apply the patches onto. I'd strongly recommend you get 2.7.2 (or 2.7.3, if it's already out; release is supposed to be imminent) from ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/gcc-2.7.2.tar.gz. > Also, any pointers or tips on cross-compiling won't be turned away. 8) Nothing in general. Let me know if you run into problems. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 06:20:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA11068 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.is.co.za (apollo.is.co.za [196.4.160.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA11063 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.is.co.za (admin.is.co.za [196.23.0.9]) by apollo.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/IShub#2) with ESMTP id PAA01997; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:20:11 +0200 (GMT) Received: (from robin@localhost) by admin.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/ISsubsidiary#1) id PAA21284; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:20:07 +0200 (GMT) From: Robin Lunn Message-Id: <199607101320.PAA21284@admin.is.co.za> Subject: Re: Quotas To: cc@tuna.dolphinet.co.uk (Charlie Conklin) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:20:05 +0200 (GMT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607100947.KAA12782@tuna.dolphinet.co.uk> from "Charlie Conklin" at Jul 10, 96 10:47:16 am X-Organisation: The Internet Solution (Pty) Ltd. X-Phone: +27-11-4475566; Fax: +27-11-4475567 Reply-To: robin@is.co.za X-AIDAT-Member: See http://www.aidat.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Charlie Conklin wrote: > Is anyone out there using quotas succesfully. I have seen some comments > to the effect that they are a bit buggy, and make the system unstable. > Has anyone had bad (or good!) experiences with them? Hi there, I've had good experience with quotas under FreeBSD and find that it doesn't affect system stability at all. (200+ users on rucus.ru.ac.za) Only bad experience is wanting to quota the root fs which causes the machine to hang after a minute or two. The developers know about this and mentioned something about needing a hierarchical lock manager. I don't think this is fixed yet, but may be wrong. -- _ __ | Only my ideas here unless I say otherwise... ' ) ) / | (BeamJack@IRC) /--' ____/___o __ | "Nondum amabam, et amare amabam... quaerebam / \_(_) /_) (__/) )_ | quid amarem, amans amare." - St Augustine From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 06:35:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA11773 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ctgusa.com (mail.ctgusa.com [205.177.99.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA11768 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from john-nt40 (205.177.99.12) by ctgusa.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:38:36 +0000 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960710133304.008c5c24@ctgusa.com> X-Sender: rcutter@ctgusa.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:33:04 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Ryan Cutter Subject: FreeBSD boot problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I've got a PC at home that is running Windows on one partion (@700 Megs) and FreeBSD on the other (@400 Megs). Just a few days ago, I installed Windows NT to take the place of Windows 3.1. While I had 3.1, FreeBSD worked fine, but now with NT, it can't boot up. When I try to boot BSD, the ususal script goes by, but about 20 seconds into it, I get the following error just after it says "Automatic Reboot in progress": Fatal Trap 12:page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address =0x24 fault code =supervisor read, page not present There is some more info about the instruction pointer, code segement, etc.. I've heard that BSD has trouble running when a 32-bit OS is in the DOS partition. I've got 16 Megs of RAM, so I don't think it's a memory problem, but right now I'm lost. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Ryan Cutter rcutter@ctgusa.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 07:05:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13216 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA13209 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA03922; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607101405.HAA03922@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Ryan Cutter cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD boot problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:33:04 EDT." <1.5.4.32.19960710133304.008c5c24@ctgusa.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:05:05 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've got a PC at home that is running Windows on one partion (@700 >Megs) and FreeBSD on the other (@400 Megs). Just a few days ago, I >installed Windows NT to take the place of Windows 3.1. While I had 3.1, >FreeBSD worked fine, but now with NT, it can't boot up. When I try to boot >BSD, the ususal script goes by, but about 20 seconds into it, I get the >following error just after it says "Automatic Reboot in progress": > > Fatal Trap 12:page fault while in kernel mode > > fault virtual address =0x24 > fault code =supervisor read, page not present > > There is some more info about the instruction pointer, code >segement, etc.. >I've heard that BSD has trouble running when a 32-bit OS is in the DOS >partition. I've got 16 Megs of RAM, so I don't think it's a memory problem, >but right now I'm lost. >Any suggestions? Are you mounting msdosfs filesystems at startup? Don't... Have you perhaps updated your kernel sources but neglected to update the kernel LKMs in /usr/src/lkm/* ? An out of date filesystem LKM can cause panics and/or serious filesystem damage if you don't have the code statically compiled into the kernel. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 07:56:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16115 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gagarin.cs.Buffalo.EDU (cbrown@gagarin.cs.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16109 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (cbrown@localhost) by gagarin.cs.Buffalo.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.4) id KAA13602; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:56:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher J Brown Message-Id: <199607101456.KAA13602@gagarin.cs.Buffalo.EDU> Subject: NCR215 supported? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: cbrown@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Christopher J Brown) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have read conflicting documentation. Some places it says PCI SCSI NCR81x and NCR82x are supported (which would include NCR815) and I have read elsewhere that NCR810 and NCR825 are the only NCR SCSI controllers supported. Could you please set me staight about this? Thank you. Christopher Brown ====================================================================== Christopher J Brown cbrown@cs.buffalo.edu CS Personnel Lab Manager http://www.cs.buffalo.edu/~cbrown CS Under Graduate Student Association President From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 08:02:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA16460 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dps.de (ntpc004.dps.de [194.121.193.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16454 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dpspc047.dps.de (Administrator@localhost) by dps.de (Release Candidate 2 (Berkeley 8.7) Build 301/Configuration 2) with SMTP id RAA00067 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:04:35 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ntpc004.dps.de: Host DPSPC047 [91.0.197.4] didn't use HELO protocol Received: by dpspc047.dps.de with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6E81.830378E0@dpspc047.dps.de>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:02:01 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB6E81.830378E0@dpspc047.dps.de> From: "W. Seidl" To: "'questions@ FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Installation FreeBSD 2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:47:58 +-200 Encoding: 25 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 on my computer for the first time. My configuration looks like this: Pentium 100 PCI already running MS Windows 95. 2 IDE Disks for Windows 95 2 SCSI Disks reserved for FreeBSD SCSI Controller Adaptec AHA-2920 SCSI DAT drive Sony CDROM drive CDU55e I have some questions concerning this installation: 1. Is the SCSI Controller AHA-2920 (compatible to Future Domain TMS 39xx) already supported by FreeBSD 2.1 ? 2. Is it possible to install FreeBSD with destroying the Windows 95 installation ? 3. Is it possible to install the FreeBSD boot manager, to decide at boot time which system to use. 4. How do I configure the boot manager to boot from the first SCSI disk ? Many thanks for your endeavours. Wolfgang Seidl (Germany, ws@dps.de) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 08:36:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19799 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.montana.edu (fubar.cs.montana.edu [153.90.192.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA19793 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cs.montana.edu; id AA11371; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:36:10 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960710153717.006dd1f0@cs.montana.edu> X-Sender: ashworth@cs.montana.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:37:17 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Justin Ashworth Subject: tip command-line dialup problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got tip all set up according to the 11.14 FAQ, and now I'm getting an error message that goes like this: --------------------------- # tip -115200 2271704 lock open: No such file or directory all ports busy # --------------------------- Any ideas will be happily accepted. Thanks! - Justin J. Ashworth -- CS Student, Montana State University --- Chair, Association for Computing Machinery - MSU -- ashworth@cs.montana.edu - http://www.cs.montana.edu/~ashworth From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 08:39:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20065 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trepan.io.org (trepan.io.org [198.133.36.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20053 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from batsy@localhost) by trepan.io.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA26148; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:39:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:39:31 -0400 (EDT) From: jamie To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SIGPIPE in jun12 SNAP install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > > > I have gone through the archives and I haven't found anything on this. > > I have been trying to install the jun 12 SNAP and it almost gets there... > > But, when I try to install the packages, I look in the "emergency VTY" > > and it tells me that it can't pkg_add because of a SIGPIPE error. Someone > > has pointed out to me that this may meant that (in all likelyhood) when > > it tries to pipe something to tar, tar is no longer a process. His other > > suggestion was that it may not be tar, but it seems that a command it > > being piped to a dead process or non-existant string. > > What is the complete text of the error message(s)? > > A bad archive will cause this. Actually it seemed that I was mising a library and I had to grab it from another machine. I wish I could remember the exact error now, but I have since installed everything else without many hitches. Sorry about that, but thanks for the interest:) -j The opinions expressed above are not necessarily those of my employer. In fact, it is likely that they are those of the aliens that abducted me and put a strange implant in my frontal lobe. Jamie Reid Junior Systems Administrator io.org/ican.net batsy@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 08:49:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20792 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from charon.siemens.be (charon.siemens.be [193.210.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20780 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by charon.siemens.be (8.7.4/nsafe-1.3) id ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:48:32 GMT Received: from atea.atea.be(193.210.197.11) by charon via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma011919; Wed Jul 10 17:48:12 1996 Received: from atdec1 by atea with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6-FW) id AA14175; Wed, 10 Jul 96 17:47:07 +0200 Received: from vnet by atdec1.atea.be (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08641; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:47:52 +0200 Received: by vnet.atea.be; Wed, 10 Jul 96 17:48:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 17:46:15 +12000 Message-Id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: (Rob Schofield) Subject: V2.1 Walnut Creek release Install probs X-Incognito-Sn: 319 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01a ENCRYPTED=NO Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD 2.1 - Problems with Disk Partioner and Labeller during Install. Hi there, my name's Rob Schofield. I have a problem with the install of FreeBSD 2.1 from the Walnut Creek 2-CD installation set. During the install, although the install can be completed successfully, on re-boot of the system, the disk's partition tables have been corrupted. I have read the documentation and I am still a bit mystified, so here's the call for help. I am a programmer with UNIX SysAdmin experience on SUNs, so you can assume a reasonable level of competence & and Jargon Understanding Threshold (JUT)! First, the kit: I have an Intel architecture, single processor, DEC Application DEC 433MP file server system using EISA bus, 486DX and 16M of RAM. As a disk controller, I'm using the Adaptec AHA1742A EISA/SCSI host bus adaptor in enhanced mode. This has been properly configured via the system's configuration utility, and appears to work OK under Win NT (spit, spit) and DOS (hurrrgh). There's two SCSI disks internally mounted in the system and a 7-tray CD-ROM changer mounted externally; disk at SCSI Address 0 is a Fujitsu 1.032 Gb (SCSI-2 Standard), disk at address 1 is a DEC RZ205 205 Mb (SCSI-1 standard), changer at address 2 is a Nakamichi MBR-7 2X CD-Rom changer (multiple LUN, SCSI-2 standard). The host adaptor is at address 7, unterminated. The Fujitsu is at the end of an internal 2-hop daisychain passively terminated on the drive. The external CD-Rom changer is also terminated passively at the end of a single-hop external cable. The Fujitsu is greater than 1 Gb, and does NOT have sector translation enabled on the controller for use with DOS (ie. I lose 32M under DOS as it can only address volumes up to 1Gb). There is no other disk controller in the system, and the system does not have disk 0 or 1 installed in the CMOS config. At boot time, the Adaptec installs the Fujitsu as disk 80h and the DEC as disk 81 using it's onboard BIOS. All three drives are successfully detected during boot/BIOS load. The controller BIOS loads at C800h, with the VGA BIOS loading at C000-C7FF. ROM shadowing is disabled. Second, the disk layout and what I did: Originally I had only DR-DOS 6 installed on the Fujitsu, in a single slice containing a 100M Big DOS Primary partition (DOS V3.3 format), and a 500M DOS Extended partition containing 5 logical drives of 100M. The MBR was the standard DR-DOS 6 boot loader + tables. The remaining 432 Mb was not used. The drives were sequenced C: - H:, with 7 CD-Rom drive letters being assigned from I: - O: using MSCDEX extensions and an enhanced-mode ASPI driver set. The DEC drive was not installed, the Fuj at add. 0, the Nakamichi at add. 1. I installed BSD 2.0.5 successfully (?) using the Walnut Creek CD-ROM distribution. The install partioner successfully utilised the additional (unreachable by DOS) 32M to give a second slice of 432 Mb for FreeBSD. This was then correctly labelled and partitioned internally to support root, swap, usr, home, and var partitions. The DOS primary disk was mounted as a volume on /dos in root. With the FBSD Boot loader installed in the MBR, I could successfully boot and load both DOS and BSD 2.0.5 (DR-DOS in part. table entry 3, BSD in part. table entry 1). (Note: The XFree86 package would never install correctly[it frequently seemed to hang], and I suspect that this caused the system install sequence to prematurely abort, leaving an incomplete but operational 2.0.5 system on the machine). After buying the 2.1 2-CD distribution, I attempted to update the 2.0.5 installation by a re-install (I had no real data to retain, so it was OK to just blast it). The from-CD install option disagreed with the DR-DOS memory manager, so I formatted a boot floppy and installed from floppy and CD-ROM. The installer floopy mini-kernel correctly found the 1742A, and identified the drives and the CD-ROM correctly. This is where I saw my first problems; when the partitioner came up, it spotted the second 432M slice as unused (it was no longer marked in the partition table as I restored the original MBR) and placed the prompt bar over it, marked as "Unused". Using the (C) command, I tried to create a BSD slice. At this point, I got the "Size" dialogue box, containing the number of sectors shown on the first screen. created the BSD slice, but *smaller* than the amount specified by some 4,000-odd sectors, plus a *new*, 4,000 sector area marked "unused". This small area cannot be deleted (it is already marked as unused, obviously!). If you then try to create a BSD slice within it, it will succeed and again cause the creation of a second, smaller free area. The second, new BSD slice has zero size. This can be carried on until the partiton table fills. If you delete the BSD slice created this way, the deleted slice's space gets added back to the "unused" area. All of this behaviour is different from that of the 2.0.5 partitioner, which correctly recognised and used all the available space on the disk. The labeller now correctly operates in the newly defined BSD slice to create the required OS partitions (I initially used the (A)utomatic option to size them), but on exit, a warning message box is put up stating: Warning: sd0sX does not end on track boundary Warning: sd0sX does not end on cylinder boundary .. .. .. .. or some such. This "warning message pair" seems to appear (by co- incidence) for each of the predefined DOS drives (6) in slice 1, as if the labeller is operating on the first slice, not the new second slice. The install proceeds correctly to completion, and the machine is re-booted. At this point, with the new boot loader installed, I got the expected: f1: FreeBSD f3: DOS ? .. but selecting either one results in the return of the ? prompt, with no boot sequence. At this point, re-booting with a DOS boot floppy, it is no longer possible to access the primary partition DOS drive (C:) or extended partition logical drives (D: - H:) in the first slice - it is as if the partiton table has been corrupted. After restoring the MBR (boot record and partition table data) from a rescue disk, the system re-boots directly to DOS again, with all drives accessable and no data loss. This, to my mind, implied partition table corruption during the Partioner/labeller run or when the new layout data is committed to disk. Reading the documentation did not really yield a clear explanation or cause, other than a hint that this may be a geometry-related problem (on a SCSI disk???) Just to make things difficult, I then added the second, DEC drive at add. 1, moving the Nakamichi to add. 2 (taking care to sort out the termination properly). Windows NT (spit, spit) was installed to occupy the entire disk. The NT boot loader files installed correctly within the Fuj Slice 1, DOS primary partition. With the now-restored standard MBR, the NT multi-boot loader inside slice 1 correctly gave a choice of a DOS boot or an NT boot. The setup was now disk 80h with 600 M in a single slice (containing DR-DOS and NT boot files), 432 M unused, and disk 81 with 205 M in a single slice with no unused space. A second rescue disk was created as this point. Repeating the FreeBSD install, selecting drive SD0 to create the BSD slice on the Fuji disk, the same thing happened as before - weird partitioner behaviour, followed by warnings, and on re-boot, the ? prompt now had: f1: FreeBSD f3: DOS f5: Unknown ..as choices, none of which worked. A restore with the rescue disk restored the original setup with no data loss, both NT and DOS available for boot. Points to note: I have not been especially scrupulous in my investigation so far, as there are a number of things I could still do: 1) Each time I have installed, I have chosen to mount the DOS primary partition on the root at mount point /dos when the labeller creates partitions using the (A) option. I have not checked whether the "Warning:......." message pairs persist if I do *not* choose to mount it in the labeller menu. 2) I have not yet created a BSD boot floppy with a mini-kernel on board that I could use to attempt to mount the partitions created in the new slice used for the install. 3) I have not yet used a utility to inspect the contents of the partition tables on the Fuji before and after the install sequence, or to manually edit the partition table contents. 4) I have not explored the possibility of using the 2.0.5 Partitioner/Labeller to try and pre-designate the free area as a FreeBSD slice, leaving it empty, then boot and perform an install into the slice from 2.1 I'm writing to see if you have had any experience of this type of problem being reported since the release was made. It is my intention to proceed further to see if I can resolve this myself, but it would of course save a lot of time and effort if you already had an instant solution! I realise you guys are probably up to your neck in work (if it's anything like my environment), so I appreciate greatly in advance any help you could give. It is my intention to have a go at writing a device driver for the Novell/Eagle 3200 32-bit EISA ethernet card, so I may even get an opportunity to feed something back in gratitude! A couple of extra questions for you: - have there been any posted updates or patches to 2.1 since it's initial release? - do you have a standing bug list available anywhere? - are there any plans to improve EISA support? Anyone have anything in the works? How about the AHA274X series? - is anyone working on a JAVA VM and compiler port for 2.1 + X? Due to a rather weird mailing setup (I have to work off-site), can you address any replies to: schofiel@xs4all.nl - and it will be forwarded to me. Thanks again, Rob Schofield From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 10:51:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29486 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29478 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00678; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:51:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:51:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Paul Walsh cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Backup headache In-Reply-To: <31E39398.7CF9@nation-net.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Paul Walsh wrote: > If I install netatalk will I then be able to dump to the apple server > and thus get backed up in the DAT runs? > Or will I need to first set up a freeBSD partition - and then what?? If the Apple supported rmt/rdump you could do it, but since it's a non-Unix box I don't think you could reliably back up the FreeBSD machine. The permissions would get munged. And then there is the problem of acutally transmitting the data. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 10:59:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00149 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00131 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00688; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:59:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:59:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Paul Walsh cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Forwarding file format In-Reply-To: <31E3885F.1454@nation-net.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Paul Walsh wrote: > Can you give me an example of the format of a forwarding file for > sendmail and any other hints. I understand its location is specified in > sendmail.cf ? Perhaps. There are two ways to affect forwarding: 1. Make an entry in /etc/aliases pointing the old name to the new: oldname: newname@newmachine Appending .REDIRECT to the domain name will cause sendmail to send the sender a message telling him/her about the change. 2. Drop a .forward file in the user's home directory with a list of email addresses to forward to, one per line. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 11:06:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA00801 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00792 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00701; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:07:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:07:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: paulc@seas.ucla.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: harddrive partition In-Reply-To: <9607091904.AA35059@lightning.seas.ucla.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 paulc@seas.ucla.edu wrote: > I have a 1GB SCSI drive, partitioned into 3 drives. > First is 100MB (primary) for dos programs; the other two are in > an extended partition. Within the extended partiton, I created 2 logical > paritions, 500MB (win95) and 400MB (potential UNIX); respectively > C:\ D:\ E:\ > > When I ran FIPS, indicates only two drives, I guess > the 100MB and the 900MB. If I continue with splitting the 2nd drive, will > that kill my win95? I would guess so. I don't think FIPS will split extended partitions successfully. I believe it was intended to be used on primary partitions only. > I'm new to installing UNIX, can you give me a step by step procedure or > at least giveme some hints as to how to proceed. Back up everything important, wipe everything, install Win95, install FreeBSD. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 11:11:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01212 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01199 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00711; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:10:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Matthew Stein cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Matthew Stein wrote: > I have no sd1, and the system properly finds the drive during the boot > sequence as sd0. Obviously this doesn't work too well. I get a panic, > and a reboot. I can make the system boot properly by using the > "hd(1,a)/kernel" option at init. Hm. What you need to do is boot that way then rebuild the kernel changing the 'kernel' line to reflect the correct configuration. kernel root on sd0 ..... I'd like to see the messages from the SCSI probe. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 11:16:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01700 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01632 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24977; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:15:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > Hm. What you need to do is boot that way then rebuild the kernel > changing the 'kernel' line to reflect the correct configuration. > > kernel root on sd0 ..... Currently... config kernel root on sd0 ...is in there. The kernel isn't making the decision here, I think it's the boot block, or the init. The SCSI probe looks like this... ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 11 on pci0:11 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:0:0): "QUANTUM EMPIRE_1080S 1022" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 1029MB (2109376 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:3:0): "MATSHITA CD-ROM CR-503 1.0f" type 5 removable SCSI 2 The problem is that before this SCSI probe, the kernel thinks it's on sd1. Even before the FREEBSD banner comes up with the kernel build time (before top lines shown in dmesg) it refers to sd1. There isn't an sd1. -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 11:12:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01434 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01419 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00718; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:12:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:12:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Dan Ziegler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960708044316.006854fc@postoffice.yorku.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Dan Ziegler wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD...everything was going smoothly 'til it began > to actually copy over the files. Here's my error, perhaps you can translate > it into something resembling english for me :) > > "Failed to load ROOT dist" (which seems relatively straightforward) Make sure the root.flp is in the correct location. I think it has to be on the top level \freebsd directory, not sure. (you're doing a dos install?) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 11:20:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA02269 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02259 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00732; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:21:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Babak Sehari cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I want to get tcsh and Emacs In-Reply-To: <9607100152.AA17748@eng3.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Babak Sehari wrote: > I have an unsupported CDROM. I already installed FreeBSD on my > compuer. Now I would like to get the tcsh and emacs added to it. > I printed and red the handbook, but it does not say anything about > how to install these packages with an unsupported CDROM. > I copied the tcsh port and tcsh_6.06 from the disk to my hard drive, > Then I mounted the Dos drive and can read it from Unix fine. > Also, I get masages like: > > lndir not found lndir is part of xwindows, you may not have it. Your pkg_add problems stem from the DOS filename limitations. You need to copy over the archive to the freebsd partition and restore the proper filename (ususally in program-1.2.3.tgz format) then pkg_add that. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 11:36:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03561 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03555 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00762; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:36:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:36:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "W. Seidl" cc: "'questions@ FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Installation FreeBSD 2.1 In-Reply-To: <01BB6E81.830378E0@dpspc047.dps.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, W. Seidl wrote: > Pentium 100 PCI already running MS Windows 95. > 2 IDE Disks for Windows 95 > 2 SCSI Disks reserved for FreeBSD > SCSI Controller Adaptec AHA-2920 > SCSI DAT drive > Sony CDROM drive CDU55e > > 1. Is the SCSI Controller AHA-2920 (compatible to Future Domain TMS 39xx) already supported by FreeBSD 2.1 ? I don't think so. I remember a note in the FAQ update about getting questions about the 2920. > 2. Is it possible to install FreeBSD with destroying the Windows 95 installation ? Certainly. > 3. Is it possible to install the FreeBSD boot manager, to decide at boot time which system to use. Certainly. > 4. How do I configure the boot manager to boot from the first SCSI disk ? With IDE installed or no? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 11:39:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03758 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.stylo.it (unix.stylo.it [193.76.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03752 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from styloserver.stylo.it (trust.stylo.it [194.21.207.253]) by unix.stylo.it (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA16716 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:40:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by styloserver.stylo.it with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB6E9F.F789CFC0@styloserver.stylo.it>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:40:01 +0200 Message-ID: From: Angelo Turetta To: "'freebsd-questions'" Subject: Why only root can open /dev/tun* ? Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:39:46 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB6E9F.F78EB1C0" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Contact your mail administrator for information about upgrading your reader to a version that supports MIME. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB6E9F.F78EB1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is on a terminal server 2.1.0-R with the ppp(8) built using the sources from -current. If I run ppp(8) as any user other than root, I get the error message: No tunnel device is available. open_tun: No such file or directory I suppose there must be some permission set by default in a very conservative way, but I can't imagine where. ppp config files are world-readable, and I've set /dev/tun* readable/writeable by a group which all the PPP users belong to. What I'm missing ? Thanks. Angelo ----------------------------------------------------------------- Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it Stylo Multimedia - Bologna - Italy http://www.stylo.it/ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB6E9F.F78EB1C0-- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 12:08:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA05484 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05475 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA26905; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:00:36 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607101900.MAA26905@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: jim@starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:00:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607100028.RAA04288@starshine> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 9, 96 05:28:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I gather that your trying to devise a way that allows you to > fork once and have the underlying (CLI) tool respond to an > arbitrary number of commands (transactions) before being > explicitly closed. For some tools this certainly makes > more sense than my original suggestion (which implied building > a separate command line for each request). Yes. > By why limit it's to one character? Because an X user interface must respond to single events. > If you're saying that the CLI tool should act like a shell > when invoked from the shell with no arguments (a reasonable > thought) then why not set it up so that this "shell's" > "prompt" starts with a status code for the last issued > command -- thus you only have one interface to write and > test rather than two ("pipe mode" vs. "shell/CLI" mode). Initially, because I wanted to hide the UI basis from the command line user; I'd like to provide the command line user with feedback that is relevent, but no more. Then I started thinking on other issues, like internationalization; if the command line is pre-translated, then the UI should just "fall out". > Even for interactive use this is reasonably good information > (I have, in the past, configured my shell prompts to include $? > (bash) so I'm aware, at a glance, of what sorts of return/error > codes various programs provide under various circumstances. > > I don't think that this suggestion (treat the CLI is a > "shell/command interpreter" and provide reasonable error > messages and prompts, will interfere with any of the other > elements you outline. No, you're right. > I'd still recommend that there exist options to log the > exact dialogs/sessions between the interactive front end and the > CLI back end. I'd also still recommend that the CLI be able to > accept a full range of command line options (even if that follows > the 'awk' model of having rather verbose command line syntax). Logging is a good idea; maybe transaction logging instead of command logging, however... and only successful transactions, at that? Eventually, I expect command line utilities to be built similar to the VMS mechanism, where you define a grammar, compile it, implement callback routines, compile them, and then link the whole mess with a library that has a main() in it that externally references the compiled grammar as data. The advantage is obvious: the UI reporting, and command interpretation, and environment management is done for you by the library, and will always provide a consistent interface to a frontend talking to the UI. It also resolves the problem of internal use of stdout, since when it is done to a pipe, the pipe is not flushed when input is requested from stdin (an error in the stdlib, IMO). Finally, it resolves the internationalization issues by divorcing the textual data from the interface proper; it should be possible to hook internationalization in with a seperate "grammar compilation" for translated modules to return only localization data, so that the utility can have compiled in English (or, potentially, other) keys, and access the locale-specific strings via keys. It does *not* resolve the ISO 10646 issues, since to do so would require stream attribution for the data to indicate that it was a 16 bit instead of an 8 bit pipe (or for a full 10646/32 instead of a Unicode-only 10646/16, a 32 bit pipe). I think those can be dealt with at a later time; in fact, it should be possible to do it transparently to the commands by implementing it all in the command line processing library and the front end(s). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 12:30:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06896 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06887 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA17044; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:28:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:28:48 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607101928.AA17044@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Terry Lambert Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted In-Reply-To: <199607101900.MAA26905@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199607100028.RAA04288@starshine> <199607101900.MAA26905@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Eventually, I expect command line utilities to be built similar to > the VMS mechanism, where you define a grammar, compile it, implement > callback routines, compile them, and then link the whole mess with > a library that has a main() in it that externally references the > compiled grammar as data. It's called `libss'. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:04:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09040 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hobbes.crim.ca (hobbes.crim.ca [132.218.1.154]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09029 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hobbes.crim.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hobbes.crim.ca (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id QAA28604 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607102004.QAA28604@hobbes.crim.ca> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kernel malloc question Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:04:20 -0400 From: Jean-Philippe Belanger Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a beginner device driver question: The kernel malloc returns physical memory (non swappable), right? Is there any way to get virtual memory ? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:30:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10686 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boss1.bossnt.com (root@boss1.bossnt.com [198.150.37.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10670 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jsimons (bossnet7.bossnt.com [198.150.37.107]) by boss1.bossnt.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA21059 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:42:10 -0500 Message-ID: <31E42208.5836@bossnt.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:35:04 -0600 From: Jim Simonson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: What to do. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, My recent interest in the internet has grown in recent months. I have no real background in UNIX, except when I download my homepage info on the local server. I have purchased the FreeBSD from Walnut creek. In a month or so I am going to make an attempt at putting together a server using FreeBSD as the OS. I am thinking of a Cyrix 6-86/motherboard. I also think a Creative Labs soundcard, Seagate HD, and some floppie. I have very limited experience with this. I do have a great interest though. I have added ram and a second HD to my existing system (486 DX2). I am running WIN95 with little trouble. It is a learning experience. When I get this up I would like to offer access to the net. I am curious if there are any usergroups doing this? Am I choosing equipt that is acceptable to run FreeBSD? Any advice would be appreciated. If you are too busy I understand that too. Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:31:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10772 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10766 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24837; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:31:33 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:31:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607102031.OAA24837@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Terry Lambert , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted In-Reply-To: <9607101928.AA17044@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199607100028.RAA04288@starshine> <199607101900.MAA26905@phaeton.artisoft.com> <9607101928.AA17044@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Eventually, I expect command line utilities to be built similar to > > the VMS mechanism, where you define a grammar, compile it, implement > > callback routines, compile them, and then link the whole mess with > > a library that has a main() in it that externally references the > > compiled grammar as data. > > It's called `libss'. And it's *NOT* documented. :( Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:34:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA11051 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omnisolve.com (omnisolve.com [206.43.0.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11045 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joel@localhost) by omnisolve.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00254 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:37:09 GMT From: Joel Ward Message-Id: <199607101437.OAA00254@omnisolve.com> Subject: stupid q To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:37:08 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i'm running FreeBSD 2.2 SNAP from may. I just got a cyclades board and installed it (16 port multiserial ISA). I had a BOCA board which i dumped cuz it sucked :) anyway, my system boots up and recognizes the board, but how do i make devices for it? i looked in th man pages and was clueless. i know this is easy, but im stll at a loss :( - Joel From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:39:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA11440 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11429 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24876; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:38:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:38:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607102038.OAA24876@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Jean-Philippe Belanger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel malloc question In-Reply-To: <199607102004.QAA28604@hobbes.crim.ca> References: <199607102004.QAA28604@hobbes.crim.ca> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is a beginner device driver question: > The kernel malloc returns physical memory (non swappable), right? > Is there any way to get virtual memory ? Since the kernel can't be swapped, why would you want virtual memory? The driver can't be 'swapped', so virtual buys you nothing. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:48:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12119 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12110 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA27122; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:38:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102038.NAA27122@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Samba FS planned to implement? To: jim@starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:38:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, igor@cs.ibank.ru, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607092345.QAA04260@starshine> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 9, 96 04:45:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > smbclient - cool but interactive. :) > > > > I have a proposal on the table (in a news group posting) for session > > management and a password cache interface. These are prerequisites > > for a correct implementation. The Linux implementation is incorrect, > > and opens security holes you could drive a truck through. This > > would not be so bad if the default configuration was not so badly > > thought out that you could drive three trucks and a blimp through. > > Could you be a bit more specific (perhaps with a message > copied to bugtraq or linux-alert)? I have discussed the issue with various people in the Linux camp and on the Samba list -- and in specific, with Andrew, who if you have followed the list since it's inception, rereleased his smbserver code at my urging, following about a year of idle time. > In particular my question is this -- the smbfs is an smb client > -- it has nothing to do with exporting your Unix volumes to > others (which is handled by smbd AFAIK). > > So, are you saying that there are problems where a single > user (on a Linux host) mounting an SMB share (on an NT or Win > '95 system for example) will allow other users (on the Linux side) > access to the shared volume? Yes. > Are you saying that it allows the user in question more access > than smbtar/smbclient? Yes, because both smbtar and smbclient require the user to authenticate on a per user instead of a per system basis. > > Remember the CERT advisort for Microsoft SMB servers? > > Of course I remember it. I added additional packet filters > to prevent propagation of those protocols through our routers > (former employer) and recommended that WfW and Win '95 systems > be reconfigured to disable sharing throughout the enterprise > (as I recall NT systems could be configured to avoid the > problem). > > > Imagine it applying to all of your UNIX systems. > > As I recall the SAMBA server didn't have this problem -- > it was the client that exposed the underlying server-side > vulnerability in the MS products. > > Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to carry > around any misinformation on this issue. The problem with the FS client is that SMB servers institute credentials (and therefore per-user protections) on a per connection basis. When you have only one connection from a multiuser mahine to an SMB server, you rob the server of its ability to distinguish individual users from the user who instantiated the mount. Further protections rely on typical obscurity mechanisms to interpose a layer of protection to the mount point to enforce user access semantics; even if this is instituted (which is not an enforced access method), doing so on a per user basis requires a mount per user -- an unrealistic administrative burden. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:51:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12418 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12412 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA27157; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:45:48 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102045.NAA27157@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: getty(8) don't show `login:' prompt To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:45:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: grog@lemis.de, candy@fct.kgc.co.jp, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607101132.EAA03432@root.com> from "David Greenman" at Jul 10, 96 04:32:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >No, that looks pretty good to me. In my getty (heavily modified), I > >have: > > > > if (slowmodem) > > { > > sleep (slowmodem); /* give modem a chance to wake up */ > > tcflush (i, TCIFLUSH); /* and throw out any junk */ > > } > > > >>From the man page: > > > >-S [delay] causes getty to delay seconds after connection has > > been established. This is for use with modems which are > > not ready to communicate with the remote site as soon as > > they are connected. may be omitted and defaults to > > 2. > > I'd prefer to see this implemented as an option in FreeBSD (default to no > extra delay if the option is not specified)...like Greg suggests above. I believe it defaults to 2 if a specific delay is omitted, and the -S option is used. I would prefer to see it implemented as, for instance, :md#2:, in /etc/gettytab instead of as a command line option at all. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:51:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12450 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12443 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA27144; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:43:06 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102043.NAA27144@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Korn Shell...anyone ? To: vdongre@rolta.com (Vrushal Dongre) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:43:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607101131.AA18870@68f800.rolta.com> from "Vrushal Dongre" at Jul 10, 96 11:31:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has the Korn Shell ( ksh ) been ported to FreeBSD ? Is the restricted > version of the same (krsh ) also available? If it is, can anyone tell > me where i can get it ? Install pdksh (the "Public Domain Korn SHell"). There is not a publically available implementation of the wksh CDE component. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 13:55:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12857 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12851 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA27175; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:51:10 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102051.NAA27175@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:51:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9607101928.AA17044@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett Wollman" at Jul 10, 96 03:28:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Eventually, I expect command line utilities to be built similar to > > the VMS mechanism, where you define a grammar, compile it, implement > > callback routines, compile them, and then link the whole mess with > > a library that has a main() in it that externally references the > > compiled grammar as data. > > It's called `libss'. Does this implicity support a "show schema" command verb subcommand for communicating the compiled schema to the front end? Does it flush stdout explicitly rather than implicitly to allow pipe operation? Does it have a front-end grammar-to-data compiler that will create a schema as well as a command line to function mapping? Does it support the concept of environment validation via callback so that you can refuse to advance/accept invalid data for a given UI input field without putting the validation into the UI itself? If the answer is "no" for any of these (and I know it is), then it's not a sufficient soloution. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 14:00:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13284 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.csg.peachnet.edu (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13270 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.csg.peachnet.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00836 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:49:31 -0400 Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 10 Jul 96 17:02:31 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.30); 10 Jul 96 17:02:16 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:02:14 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Will BSD/OS 2.0 binary support be available under 2.1.5? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <5DC1527605@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject says it all Thanks, C.P. ____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.2063 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 14:04:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13587 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13582 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA17773; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:03:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:03:25 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607102103.AA17773@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Terry Lambert Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted In-Reply-To: <199607102051.NAA27175@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <9607101928.AA17044@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607102051.NAA27175@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > If the answer is "no" for any of these (and I know it is), then it's > not a sufficient soloution. Maybe for you it's not. For normal humans it would be. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 14:09:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14044 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14029 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA25156; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:05:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:05:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607102105.PAA25156@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Terry Lambert Cc: grog@lemis.de, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getty(8) don't show `login:' prompt In-Reply-To: <199607102045.NAA27157@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199607101132.EAA03432@root.com> <199607102045.NAA27157@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >No, that looks pretty good to me. In my getty (heavily modified), I ^^^^^^^^ > > >have: > > >>From the man page: > > > > > >-S [delay] causes getty to delay seconds after connection has > > > been established. This is for use with modems which are > > > not ready to communicate with the remote site as soon as > > > they are connected. may be omitted and defaults to > > > 2. > > > > I'd prefer to see this implemented as an option in FreeBSD (default to no > > extra delay if the option is not specified)...like Greg suggests above. > > I believe it defaults to 2 if a specific delay is omitted, and the -S > option is used. > > I would prefer to see it implemented as, for instance, :md#2:, in > /etc/gettytab instead of as a command line option at all. Huh? What are you smoking Terry? The getty that Greg's talking about is his local version which hasn't seen the light of day in FreeBSD. How do you know all about it since you haven't seen it or the source code for it? Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 14:39:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16737 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16720 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from disorder.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (disorder.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.221.73]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA22832 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 23:25:06 +0200 Received: by disorder.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (XAA00537); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 23:24:59 +0200 From: Udo Wolter Message-Id: <199607102124.XAA00537@disorder.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Linux' Word Perfect works with 2.1R ? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 23:24:59 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: uwp@disorder.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! Can anyone tell me if he or she get the Linux version of Werd Perfect to run with the Linux-emulator ? I'm thinking of buying this software, but I want to know if it works and what am I have to do to make it run. By the way, I don't read this forum anymore (too many mails...), so please don't forget to cc: me ! Thanx & Bye, Udo -- Udo Wolter, email: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de, www: http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~uwp/ !!! NEW: LOW-TECH Page: http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~uwp/low-tech.html !!! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 14:33:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16135 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elektra.microfocus.com (elektra.microfocus.com [205.226.120.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16108 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from KEH.microfocus.com by elektra.microfocus.com (8.6.12/MicroFocus-iRELAY.1) id OAA03257; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:31:39 -0700 Message-ID: <31E420A2.3EB2@microfocus.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:29:06 -0700 From: Kevin Huang Organization: microfocus.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subcrible freebsd-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe freebsd-stable From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 14:49:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17936 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17926 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ac00581; 10 Jul 96 22:39 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00316; 10 Jul 96 22:38 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA02597; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:20:04 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:20:04 GMT Message-Id: <199607102020.UAA02597@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: schofiel@xs4all.nl CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (E00114@vnet.atea.be) Subject: Re: V2.1 Walnut Creek release Install probs Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a problem with the install of FreeBSD 2.1 from the Walnut Creek 2-CD > installation set. During the install, although the install can be completed > successfully, on re-boot of the system, the disk's partition tables have been > corrupted. [mega-snip] > Reading the documentation did not really yield a clear > explanation or cause, other than a hint that this may be a geometry-related > problem (on a SCSI disk???) Yes, this is almost certainly the problem. When sharing a SCSI disk with DOS, the recommended method is to run the pfdisk.exe program, which will display what DOS thinks the geometry is, and then use that in the installation. > It is my intention to have a go at writing a device driver for the > Novell/Eagle 3200 32-bit EISA ethernet card, so I may even get an opportunity > to feed something back in gratitude! Great! That's what it's all about :-) > - have there been any posted updates or patches to 2.1 since it's initial > release? A new release, 2.1.5, is expected within the next week or so. The development version (FreeBSD-current) is available for FTP - in fact, it's even possible to set up your own copy of the CVS tree! (Although rather pointless unless you're actually working on the code). > - do you have a standing bug list available anywhere? Yes, it's posted to the freebsd-bugs mailing list every week. > - are there any plans to improve EISA support? Anyone have anything in the > works? How about the AHA274X series? If I understand correctly, the 274X code has been merged into a generic 27/28/29XX driver. I don't know of any EISA-specific work being done. > - is anyone working on a JAVA VM and compiler port for 2.1 + X? Not as such. There are things like JDK and kaffe in the ports collection. Incidentally, I'd recommend having a look at the documentation on http://www.freebsd.org. It should answer a lot of your questions (including the ones you haven't thought of yet :-) > Due to a rather weird mailing setup (I have to work off-site), can you > address any replies to: > > schofiel@xs4all.nl > > - and it will be forwarded to me. Done! -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 14:54:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18515 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18509 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id WAA02502; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:53:19 +0100 (BST) To: Christian cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Will BSD/OS 2.0 binary support be available under 2.1.5? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:02:14 EST." <5DC1527605@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:53:18 +0100 Message-ID: <2499.837035598@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christian wrote in message ID <5DC1527605@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu>: > Subject says it all ``Yes'' Above line says it all :-) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 15:03:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19446 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flash.tss.com (splash.tss.com [192.216.111.239]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19419 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by flash.tss.com (4.1/1.37) id AA18766; Wed, 10 Jul 96 15:04:50 PDT Received: from unknown(160.101.20.20) by flash.tss.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018761; Wed Jul 10 15:04:24 1996 Received: from rv02 by tekbspa.tibco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15351; Wed, 10 Jul 96 15:04:24 PDT Message-Id: <9607102204.AA15351@tekbspa.tibco.com> Reply-To: From: "Derek Collison" To: Subject: 3COM 3C590 support Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:01:55 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD support this card and if so under which release? Thanks, =derek -- Derek Collison <--> collison@TIBCO.com TIBCO Inc. The Information Bus Company From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 15:32:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22306 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pina1 (pina1.telecom.at [194.37.252.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22191 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from async7.pinrt3.telecom.at (async7.pinrt3.telecom.at [194.118.0.104]) by pina1 (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA07937 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:27:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199607091927.VAA07937@pina1> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Franz Hollerer" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:17:29 +0000 Subject: problems with network/nfs Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have problems with my network and I hope that someone can help me: *) NFS I have a network with 2 Linux-PC's and 2 FreeBSD-PC's. One FreeBSD-PC acts as server. On this server I have exported the root filesystem. My problem is that copying files from Linux to FreeBSD is very time consuming: 10min for 8MB. During copying the harddist of the FreeBSD-server makes a terrible noise. All other directions (Linux to Linux, FreeBSD to FreeBSD and FreeBSD to Linux) work fine. I have tried out different rsize and wsize, but that did not solve the problem. *) Netscape Usually I start XFree86 on my FreeBSD. Then I make a telnet to Linux. There I start dip to establish a connection to our internet provider. Then I start netscape. After this netscape takes very long to open some windows. I can also see on an ethernet hub, that many collisions occur on the net. Any help welcome. Thanks, Franz Hollerer EEG, Hard&Software Development Austria We have no kangaroos. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 15:37:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22817 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22809 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ac00579; 10 Jul 96 22:39 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00297; 10 Jul 96 22:38 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA02645; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:10:59 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:10:59 GMT Message-Id: <199607102110.VAA02645@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: qgabriel@sprynet.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31E39836.667E@sprynet.com> (message from Kiyu Gabriel on Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:47:02 -0700) Subject: Re: Which files Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Kiyu Gabriel writes: > > I do apologize for such a simple question - but on your ftp > server there are several files that *might* just be the ones that I need > to download. What directories do I need to clean out (if there are > any)and what file structure needs to be set up within the C:\freebsd > directory that I made to assist the installation? There are two ways of doing the installation. Either FTP down everything you expect to want, and put it somewhere where the install program can find it, or else just grab the boot disk and let it automagically pull down everything it needs during the installation. The first one assumes you have somewhere convenient to keep them, but allows you to do it in stages; the second one assumes that you are willing to be online for the whole installation. (There's also a third option, which is to install from CDROM, if your CDROM is recognised by the boot floppy). If you're going to install from a DOS partition, you need to put the distribution files in the same directory structure as on the FTP site: c:\freebsd\bin c:\freebsd\floppies c:\freebsd\src etc.. > Also, how is this "root" disk made? I assume you mean the "boot" disk? (The "root" disk should be read in directly from the DOS partition or over FTP). It's made using rawrite.exe from the tools directory - all it does is write the boot.flp image directly to floppy (in other words it's a trick to make a FreeBSD boot floppy without requiring you to have a FreeBSD system). The best thing to do is probably to get the installation documentation from the FTP site (INSTALL.TXT, README.TXT, etc) peruse them carefully, and print them out before you start. > I do sincerely apologize for what > must surely sound like the most trivial and maybe even childish > questions. I am going to learn to use unix-type systems, and I have to > start asking questions somewhere... > "He who asks is a fool for a moment; he who does not ask is a fool > forever..." Not at all. Everyone has to start somewhere... -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 15:38:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22924 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22909 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA09215; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:37:07 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma009211; Wed Jul 10 22:36:52 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA02228; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:36:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:36:52 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199607102236.PAA02228@meerkat.mole.org> To: terry@lambert.org Subject: Re: Samba FS planned to implement? Cc: igor@cs.ibank.ru, jim@starshine.org, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The problem with the FS client is that SMB servers institute credentials > (and therefore per-user protections) on a per connection basis. When > you have only one connection from a multiuser mahine to an SMB server, > you rob the server of its ability to distinguish individual users from > the user who instantiated the mount. > > Further protections rely on typical obscurity mechanisms to interpose > a layer of protection to the mount point to enforce user access semantics; > even if this is instituted (which is not an enforced access method), > doing so on a per user basis requires a mount per user -- an unrealistic > administrative burden. > Suppose that one were to look at this in a slightly twisted manner. Suppose that the SMB FS client is a FreeBSD box, and that the SMB (Samba) server is also a FreeBSD box. One could set up the server so that the client (and _all_ of its users, therefore) was suitably restricted. Samba's pretty good at that. That NT or Win* might not be quite as good still does not keep the facility from being useful. If usefulness outweighs security concerns, why not have the facility? If it doesn't, then don't allow the sharing. This is a policy matter. If the administrator of the SMB server wants to grant access to some set of users on a FreeBSD box and is willing to act in concert with the administrator of the FreeBSD box, especially since the administrators might be one in the same person, why should that not be an available security mode? I'd give you examples with group permissions and such on the mount directory, but you'd give better examples than I would. I draw your attention once again to the quote in my signature :-) Regards, Mike -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 15:49:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23636 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.telebit.com (webster.telebit.com [143.191.3.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23631 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (sharps.chelmsford.telebit.com) by webster.telebit.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Telebit.COM-Sendmail-V4.3) id AA02630 to questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:48:44 EDT Received: from smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com by Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1-pmm-2) id AA24459; Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:48:40 EDT Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA837050309; Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:48:59 EST Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:48:59 EST From: "Nathan Melhorn" Message-Id: <9606108370.AA837050309@smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org (general questions) Subject: Installing parallel port IOMega ZIP drive? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just got an IOMega parallel port ZIP drive (100 MEG, dismountable) and installed it on my DOS/Windows and OS/2 systems. It wasn't easy on OS/2, but it went OK. I then started to install it on my FreeBSD system. Some information sources (any others?): http://www.torque.net/zip.html {mostly Linux ->} http://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.html {FreeBSD ->} http://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.c {the source} This source is a port from Linux, and probably hasn't seen HEAVY use. However, I was willing to take a try. This source describes how it should be incorporated. I modified the MY_MACHINE and files.386 files and started a build. I got a compile error on ppa3.c, and had to replace all int32 with int32_t and all u_int32 with u_int32_t. It built then. First, I found that the parallel port address they'd suggested (0x278) was wrong for me, and I needed 0x378 -- which I got from an old 'dmesg' output for LPR1. Now it works. It identifies my device, and I can read it (I haven't tried writing yet, but I think it'll go). However, I find that it takes a LONG time to do the initial device probes. Since the ppa interface is SCSI-ish, I thought the SCSI_DELAY might change this. I reduced it from its original 15 seconds (it seemed MUCH longer) to 5. On reboot, probing now took about 2 minutes! I changed it back to 15 seconds. I'm stuck until I get a bright idea -- or some suggestions. I'll also be asking the author. --thanks, Nate Melhorn (n_melhor@chelmsford.telebit.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:27:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25454 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sheriff.wellsfargo.com ([204.30.29.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25443 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unixm1.wellsfargo.com by sheriff.wellsfargo.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/17Aug95-1000AM) id AA12556; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:29:00 -0700 Received: from msm1.WellsFargo.COM (msm1.wellsfargo.com [151.151.198.110]) by unixm1.wellsfargo.com (8.6.9/tl-950720-1) with SMTP id QAA09581; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:26:22 -0700 Received: by msm1.WellsFargo.COM with Microsoft Mail id <31E43C37@msm1.WellsFargo.COM>; Wed, 10 Jul 96 16:26:47 PDT From: "Hunter, Brent" To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'bhunter@cyberpark.com'" Subject: 200MHz Pentium Pro and/or Multiple CPU support? Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 16:25:00 PDT Message-Id: <31E43C37@msm1.WellsFargo.COM> Encoding: 16 TEXT, 50 UUENCODE X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 X-Ms-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 1959 00-00-1980 00:00 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've been using FreeBSD on a Pentium 166 with 64MB of RAM and it runs great. However, I am thinking about upgrading the system to a dual-Pentium or a Pentium Pro 200MHz machine. Someone told me that FreeBSD does not support multiple CPUs and that I might want to double check before upgrading to a Penitum Pro 200 MHz machine. Can you please let me know about these two questions (please reply to me at bhunter@cyberpark.com as well as this email address)? Thanks very much for your time and consideration! Sincerely, Brent Hunter The following binary file has been uuencoded to ensure successful transmission. 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Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've recently installed 2.0.5 from a floppy distribution of bin.aa-bin.cp. After the initial installation, several questions were asked about configuring many aspects of the system, but each was looking for other distributions (e.g. compat1x, etc). I've downloaded several : manpages, games, compat1x and compat20. Now what? I've looked in the FAQ, but I can't find how to access the floppy. I'd check the manpages but... Are there other distributions I will probably need? What about XF86312? Is this XFree86 ver 3.1.2? I'll almost certainly need some of the packages listed in that directory. How should I proceed to install them. At this point I could start over with 2.1.0 I suppose, without much headache, but downloading those 70+ bin.[a-c][a-z] files wasn't fun. Is there a better approach to upgrade to 2.1.0? I don't know if my CD-ROM will be recognized yet. I have downloaded the atapi.flp just in case. Thanks for any help! +--------------------------+------------------------------+ | Brent.Hipp@msfc.nasa.gov | Marshall Space Flight Center | | (205) 544-5183 (voice) | EL73 | | KE4YNY | Huntsville, AL 35812 | +--------------------------+------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:30:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25635 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25629 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA27690; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:25:48 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102325.QAA27690@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Will BSD/OS 2.0 binary support be available under 2.1.5? To: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Christian) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:25:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5DC1527605@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> from "Christian" at Jul 10, 96 05:02:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Subject says it all No. You will need to go to -current instead, or wait for 2.2, some time near the end of the year. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:31:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25690 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25682 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA27662; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:23:52 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102323.QAA27662@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Samba FS planned to implement? To: mrm@MARMOT.Mole.ORG (M.R.Murphy) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:23:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, igor@cs.ibank.ru, jim@starshine.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607102236.PAA02228@meerkat.mole.org> from "M.R.Murphy" at Jul 10, 96 03:36:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Suppose that one were to look at this in a slightly twisted manner. > Suppose that the SMB FS client is a FreeBSD box, and that the > SMB (Samba) server is also a FreeBSD box. One could set up the > server so that the client (and _all_ of its users, therefore) > was suitably restricted. Samba's pretty good at that. That NT or Win* > might not be quite as good still does not keep the facility from > being useful. If usefulness outweighs security concerns, why not > have the facility? If it doesn't, then don't allow the sharing. > This is a policy matter. This is the "common share" model. The only answer I have for this is "by default, the choice to allow security compromises should be explicit rather than implicit". I've said, several times before, "feel free to implement code, which I will subsequently refer to as 'broken', but don't expect me to do it". > If the administrator of the SMB server wants to grant access to > some set of users on a FreeBSD box and is willing to act in > concert with the administrator of the FreeBSD box, especially > since the administrators might be one in the same person, why > should that not be an available security mode? I'd give you examples > with group permissions and such on the mount directory, but you'd > give better examples than I would. > > I draw your attention once again to the quote in my signature :-) > > Regards, > Mike > -- > Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 > Better is the enemy of Good The status quo is the enemy of progress. Once implemented incorrectly, you remove the majority of the incentive to implement it correctly at a later time... examples: msdosfs, PnP, FS stacking, the ft driver, the kernel timer changes necessary for timer outcall and/or oneshots in drivers, the use of the "cookie" paradigm to solve the stat buffer translation issues for the NFS server code, the use of the slice code to put off the need to integrate devfs, etc., etc.. Better is the enemy of good because good so often wins that better has gotten a bit pissed about the whole situation. The maxim "anything which works is better than anything that doesn't" is *much* stronger than the maxim "better is the enemy of good". 8-(. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:36:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26024 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26011 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA27702; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:31:05 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102331.QAA27702@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: getty(8) don't show `login:' prompt To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:31:05 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, grog@lemis.de, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607102105.PAA25156@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Jul 10, 96 03:05:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > >No, that looks pretty good to me. In my getty (heavily modified), I > ^^^^^^^^ > > > >have: > > > > >>From the man page: > > > > > > > >-S [delay] causes getty to delay seconds after connection has > > > > been established. This is for use with modems which are > > > > not ready to communicate with the remote site as soon as > > > > they are connected. may be omitted and defaults to > > > > 2. > > > > > > I'd prefer to see this implemented as an option in FreeBSD (default to no > > > extra delay if the option is not specified)...like Greg suggests above. > > > > I believe it defaults to 2 if a specific delay is omitted, and the -S > > option is used. > > > > I would prefer to see it implemented as, for instance, :md#2:, in > > /etc/gettytab instead of as a command line option at all. > > Huh? What are you smoking Terry? The getty that Greg's talking about > is his local version which hasn't seen the light of day in FreeBSD. How > do you know all about it since you haven't seen it or the source code > for it? They are called "English classes". You should light one up. 8-). 8-). He states that the value indicated by the identifier "delay" may be omitted for a delay value of 2: may be omitted and defaults to 2. This statement is made in the context of the -S option. Thus, presumably, one must use the -S option and omit the (optional: BNF "[delay]" was used; bracketed items may be ommited in BNF) parameter to get the default of 2. So besides "smoking English classes", I *read* his supplied man page excerpt. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:37:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26076 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26069 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA27717; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:32:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102332.QAA27717@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:32:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9607102103.AA17773@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett Wollman" at Jul 10, 96 05:03:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > If the answer is "no" for any of these (and I know it is), then it's > > not a sufficient soloution. > > Maybe for you it's not. For normal humans it would be. Normal human consider it "OK" to run Microsoft products. Normal humans are wrong. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:39:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26205 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26200 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA27730; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:34:09 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102334.QAA27730@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: kernel malloc question To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:34:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: jpbelang@crim.ca, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607102038.OAA24876@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Jul 10, 96 02:38:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > This is a beginner device driver question: > > The kernel malloc returns physical memory (non swappable), right? > > Is there any way to get virtual memory ? > > Since the kernel can't be swapped, why would you want virtual memory? > The driver can't be 'swapped', so virtual buys you nothing. I could see wanting to allocate per process memory, rather than globally allocating memory, in a multiple use driver. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:43:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26364 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26345 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id AAA02882; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:41:00 +0100 (BST) To: Terry Lambert cc: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Christian), questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Will BSD/OS 2.0 binary support be available under 2.1.5? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:25:48 PDT." <199607102325.QAA27690@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:40:58 +0100 Message-ID: <2880.837042058@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote in message ID <199607102325.QAA27690@phaeton.artisoft.com>: > > Subject says it all > > No. You will need to go to -current instead, or wait for 2.2, some > time near the end of the year. Sorry? I think you'll find that it's in 2.1.5-RELEASE, as why else would we have the following sysctl vars?: kern.ps_strings = -272637968 kern.usrstack = -272637952 Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:51:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27518 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27513 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA27821; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:47:01 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102347.QAA27821@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Will BSD/OS 2.0 binary support be available under 2.1.5? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:47:00 -0700 (MST) Cc: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607102325.QAA27690@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 10, 96 04:25:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Subject says it all > > No. You will need to go to -current instead, or wait for 2.2, some > time near the end of the year. Oops. Yes. It's Linux ELF that won't be supported, not BSDI 2.0. I rememebred we would be losing one ABI out of current, and got confused. Sorry. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:52:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27687 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27680; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA27840; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:48:12 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607102348.QAA27840@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Will BSD/OS 2.0 binary support be available under 2.1.5? To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:48:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <2880.837042058@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 11, 96 00:40:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Subject says it all > > > > No. You will need to go to -current instead, or wait for 2.2, some > > time near the end of the year. > > Sorry? I think you'll find that it's in 2.1.5-RELEASE, as why else > would we have the following sysctl vars?: > > kern.ps_strings = -272637968 > kern.usrstack = -272637952 I was wrong; it has been corrected already (caught it myself). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:56:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA28259 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28253 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ad00579; 10 Jul 96 22:39 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00394; 10 Jul 96 22:38 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA02522; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:23:13 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:23:13 GMT Message-Id: <199607101923.TAA02522@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: grog@lemis.de CC: alexandr@louie.udel.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607101012.MAA27347@allegro.lemis.de> (grog@lemis.de) Subject: Re: Help With GCC!!! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I would've just grabbed 2.7.2, but I remember reading somewhere that > > FreeBSD hasn't jumped to that version yet because of a bunch of bugs and > > other problems. > > The problems with 2.7.2 are exaggerated. Apparently it needs substantial patching to compile the kernel correctly. > I'm using it for everything. Perhaps you have been lucky :-) > I believe it will soon become standard on 2.2. As I understand it, the system compiler in -current will be a patched version of 2.7.3 (when gcc-2.7.3 comes out). At the moment it's a patched version of 2.6.3. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 16:59:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA28482 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28474 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA06850; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:57:11 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199607102357.SAA06850@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: kernel malloc question To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:57:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, jpbelang@crim.ca, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607102334.QAA27730@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 10, 96 04:34:09 pm Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > This is a beginner device driver question: > > > The kernel malloc returns physical memory (non swappable), right? > > > Is there any way to get virtual memory ? > > > > Since the kernel can't be swapped, why would you want virtual memory? > > The driver can't be 'swapped', so virtual buys you nothing. > > I could see wanting to allocate per process memory, rather than > globally allocating memory, in a multiple use driver. > Our pipe buffers are pageable... John From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 17:16:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29558 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29512; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:15:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607110015.RAA29512@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Some recent changes to GENERIC To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607101912.VAA11213@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 10, 96 09:12:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch wrote: > > As Nate Williams wrote: > > > Making folks build their own custom kernels is a step in the wrong > > direction. We should be providing 'out-of-the-box' solutions solutions > > for them in the same manner as pre-built ports. > > I will fully support this opinion as soon as we have pageable kernel > memory. Right now, the kitchen-sink kernel wastes a few hundred pages > of valuable physical memory for the average user, i think that's a > very high price. FreeBSD-questions....thats the place to talk about ditching devices from the GENERIC kernel. ask how many people are running GENERIC. ask how many people know how to make a custom kernel that works. (i get an some message about _hw_float....why???) let those who need/want/can build custom kernels do so. let those who dont/cant/wont run GENERIC, bloated as it may be. jmb ps. all those in favor of removing ed1 and sio2 from GENERIC answer all custom kernle compilation questions. greg lehey can add it as the *first* item in his "how ot get results from freebsd-questions" ;) -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 18:13:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03295 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ctasim.com (ctasim.com [206.6.123.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03290 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by deepthought.ctasim.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/920502.SGI.AUTO) for questions@freebsd.org id TAA10176; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:07:49 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:07:49 -0600 From: jon@ctasim.com (Jon Doran) Message-Id: <199607110107.TAA10176@deepthought.ctasim.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: install problems on Dell P60 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm attempting to install 2.0.5R (from CD) onto a Dell Dimension XPS P60. It is not my machine, so I don't have all the gory details, but it has a CD, and a Quantum Lightning 540A (which I believe to be an 540M IDE drive). When I boot of the installation floppy (which I've used on a number of installs) I get the following message, over and over again: matcd0: get_stat: After reading status byte, bus didn't go idle ff f 230 What can I do? Thanks, Jon Doran --------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Doran CTA Simulation Systems, LLC 7315 E. Orchard Rd, Suite 100 Greenwood Village, CO 80111 (303) 889-1270 jon@ctasim.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 18:39:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA04588 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04582 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA04706 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:37:45 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00222; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:47:28 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607102347.QAA00222@starshine> Subject: Re: Samba FS planned to implement? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jim@starshine.org, terry@lambert.org, igor@cs.ibank.ru, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607102038.NAA27122@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 10, 96 01:38:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Are you saying that it allows the user in question more access > > than smbtar/smbclient? > > Yes, because both smbtar and smbclient require the user to authenticate > on a per user instead of a per system basis. Okay. (I hadn't used smbfs yet by the way). I was under the (obviously mistaken) opinion that this was implemented as a userfs or like Matt Blaze's CryptFS or Caldera's Netware client implementation -- (where the authentication and visibility are on a per session or per user basis). > The problem with the FS client is that SMB servers institute credentials > (and therefore per-user protections) on a per connection basis. When > you have only one connection from a multiuser mahine to an SMB server, > you rob the server of its ability to distinguish individual users from > the user who instantiated the mount. > > Further protections rely on typical obscurity mechanisms to interpose > a layer of protection to the mount point to enforce user access semantics; > even if this is instituted (which is not an enforced access method), > doing so on a per user basis requires a mount per user -- an unrealistic > administrative burden. In essence the Unix host running smbfs must be "trusted" by the admin of the SMB server (i.e. a problem of transitive trust) This sounds like a design limitation rather than a "bug" per se. It limits the use of smbfs to single user workstations or to a limited number of "trusted" users per host -- and requires that the *ix system be reasonably secure and restrictive in its configuration. There shouldn't be a problem with "public" shares (those that are freely accessible within the domain) assuming that *both* machines in question are secure (on a private or secure LAN, possibly behind a firewall). A question: If someone is running telnetd on their NT box and allows multiple users on a LAN to telnet into it for shell (4NT or COMMAND) access .... does the same problem exist? Can that user see shares that the NT box has NET /USE'd? Can the NT admin also limit the access to those (similar to 'root' limiting the permissions on the smbfs mount point)? Are you suggesting that this be implemented like CFS or userfs (I've used CFS but not userfs)? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 18:50:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05065 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucp0.tokyo.spin.ad.jp (uucp0.Tokyo.Spin.AD.JP [165.76.20.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05060 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by uucp0.tokyo.spin.ad.jp (8.7.5+Spin/3.4Wbata3-02/05/96) id BAA14393; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:37:31 GMT Received: from sylph.sdd.nsysdev.co.jp by nsdgw.nc.nsysdev.co.jp (8.6.11+2.4W/3.3W) with ESMTP id KAA26582 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:13:49 +0900 Received: from seraph.sdd.nsysdev.co.jp by sylph.sdd.nsysdev.co.jp (8.6.9/3.3W) with SMTP id KAA03908 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:00:16 +0900 Message-ID: <31E455CC.5E51@sdd.nsysdev.co.jp> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:15:56 +0900 From: Akira Tomoyoshi Reply-To: tomo@sdd.nsysdev.co.jp Organization: Nippon System Development Co., Ltd. [NSD] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Pls teach me Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please teach me at FreeBSD 2.1.0-Release, sendmail version ? BIND(named) version ? Thank you. -- ****************************************************************************** Akira Tomoyoshi, NSD [Nippon System Development Co.,Ltd.] Daiichi-Seimei Bldg., 2-7-1, Nishi-Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 163-07, Japan Tel: +81-3-3342-1418 Fax: +81-3-3342-0451 http://www.nsysdev.co.jp ****************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 18:56:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05488 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05457; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ad00741; 10 Jul 96 22:51 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00835; 10 Jul 96 22:40 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA02540; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:36:54 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:36:54 GMT Message-Id: <199607101936.TAA02540@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: black@mr.net CC: gpalmer@freebsd.org, drizzt@shadowlands.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607092037.PAA07392@galileo.mr.net> (message from Ben Black on Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:37:41 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: Multi-processors Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Ohh yea one more question. I noticed you have support for the > > > Cyrinx chips. I was looking at the Cyrinx 166 and it is 100 bucks > > > cheaper than the P-166. Have you seen any problems with the Cyrinx > > > chips? > > > > Dunno. Other readers of -questions care to comment? > > > haven't used any of the cyrix chips personally, but i have heard lots of > complaints about problems with cyrix chips running 2.1R. YMMV. Weren't these 486SLC Cyrix chips (or whatever they were called?) I thought the more recent Cyrix ones were OK. Anyway, I don't know much about them either - the best place to look for this kind of info is on the archive for the freebsd-hardware list. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 18:56:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05600 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ultra2.ionet.net (ultra2.ionet.net [204.96.200.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05595 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:56:28 -0700 (PDT) From: bluesluv@ionet.net Received: from bluesluv.ionet.net (enid01.ionet.net [206.41.132.67]) by ultra2.ionet.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id UAA26989 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:54:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31E45CF0.FBB@ionet.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:46:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I thought it was suppose to be free??? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 19:06:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06044 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06036 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA05836; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607110205.TAA05836@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: bluesluv@ionet.net cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:46:24 CDT." <31E45CF0.FBB@ionet.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:05:49 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I thought it was suppose to be free??? It is. You can get your free copy from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 19:12:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06369 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skeg.cst.com.au (skeg.cst.com.au [203.61.252.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06362 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bala@localhost) by skeg.cst.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.11) id MAA05875 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:12:35 +1000 From: Bala Periasamy Message-Id: <199607110212.MAA05875@skeg.cst.com.au> Subject: Novell 3.12 on FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:12:35 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We have our backup device on FreeBSD. We also run a Novell 3.12 file server for the Admin. Can any one tell me how to backup the novell on to the backup device ( connected to the freebsd machine)? Is there a Netware client for FreeBSD? thanx bala From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 19:22:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06848 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06841 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA04384; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:19:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:19:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: bluesluv@ionet.net cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd In-Reply-To: <31E45CF0.FBB@ionet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996 bluesluv@ionet.net wrote: > I thought it was suppose to be free??? > It is...you got ftp? ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 19:48:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08459 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (root@wormhole.map.com [204.71.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA08453 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: "Roland Jay Roberts" To: "MichaelGoe@aol.com" , "FreeBSD Questions" , "Doug White" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 19:33:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Roland Jay Roberts" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Roland Roberts's Registered PMMail 1.5 Subject: Re: help with PAS16 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Doug White wrote: >On Fri, 5 Jul 1996 MichaelGoe@aol.com wrote: > >> I added the conflicts foor the pas0 becuase I have a Mitsumi CD-rom on IRQ >> 10. As a mounted drive the cd-rom works fine. During boot-up, it does >> recognize my sound card, however; using cdplayer it tells me that the device >> is not configured, and with xcd it I get a broken pipe error. > >I think that the cd playing apps only work on SCSI CDROMs. i.e. for audio CD's? Not so. I've got a Mitsumi CD-ROM myself, and the textmode cdplay program plays audio CD's just fine. (a visit to it's man page is a must. I hope someone manages to port the cdtool package from Linux, as it's quite easy to use). I think the problem stems from the fact that the Mitsumi is on IRQ 10 along with the PAS16. Changing the PAS16 to IRQ 11 (as long as nothing else is there) ought to help out. // Roland Jay Roberts - Team OS/2 - // Internet: jay@map.com // FidoNet: Roland Roberts @ 1:321/305.5 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 19:48:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08477 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (root@wormhole.map.com [204.71.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA08467 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: "Roland Jay Roberts" To: "FreeBSD Questions" , "dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 19:10:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Roland Jay Roberts" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Roland Roberts's Registered PMMail 1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD and DASH Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:36:11 -0700 (PDT), Doug White wrote: >On Fri, 21 Jun 1996 mngroup@ritsec3.com.eg wrote: > >> How can i make the FreeBSD recognize my Ditto Tape running >> from the accelerating card "Ditto DASH accelerating card" >> with 2Mbps, so i can install, upgrade, and use my tapes. > >Won't happen. It's a floppy tape (with or without the Ditto Dash) and >those aren't supported (except for the old QIC-40/80s). I hope someone with some experience would improve the floppy tape support in FreeBSD, since there are a number of us with floppy tape units. They may not be as good as SCSI, but they are in-expensive and generally trouble-free. >SCSI is _SOO_ much better. True, but some of us already have floppy tape units, and can't afford to buy a SCSI adapter and a SCSI tape drive. // Roland Jay Roberts - Team OS/2 - // Internet: jay@map.com // FidoNet: Roland Roberts @ 1:321/305.5 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 20:01:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA09204 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atropos.c2.org (atropos.c2.org [140.174.185.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09196 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sameer@localhost) by atropos.c2.org (8.7.4/CSUA) id UAA21939 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607110301.UAA21939@atropos.c2.org> Subject: Adaptec 3940W and kernel panics To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: sameer X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We've recently added a 3940W and some wide disks to our newsserver, and it has been panicking and trashing the disks on that controller about every two days since the disks were installed. Our kernel boot says: [. . .] Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 de0 rev 17 int a irq 12 on pci0:9 de0: DC21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.1 Ethernet address 00:00:c0:86:f7:9d de0: enabling 10baseT UTP port ahc0 rev 3 int a irq 10 on pci0:10 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST51080N 0943" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1030MB (2109840 512 byte sectors) chip2 rev 2 on pci0:11 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: ahc1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci1:4 ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs ahc1 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc1:1:0): "Quantum XP34300W 81HB" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc1:1:0): Direct-Access 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors) ahc2 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci1:5 ahc2: aic7880 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs ahc2 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc2:1:0): "Quantum XP34300W 81HB" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(ahc2:1:0): Direct-Access 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: [. . .] The appropriate area of the kernel config file says: controller ncr0 options "SCSI_NCR_MAX_TAGS=0" #for that HP C3725 # ahc: Adaptec 274x/284x/294x, always: controller ahc0 #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #form after 1/5/96 controller ahc1 controller ahc2 controller scbus0 device ch0 #SCSI media changers device sd0 #SCSI disks device st0 #SCSI tapes device cd0 #SCSI CD-ROMs We're running 2.1-STABLE. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-986-8770 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-986-8777 The Internet Privacy Provider http://www.c2.net/ sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 20:06:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA09390 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (root@wormhole.map.com [204.71.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09382 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: "Roland Jay Roberts" To: "FreeBSD Questions" , "Jonathan M. Bresler" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 23:03:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Roland Jay Roberts" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Roland Roberts's Registered PMMail 1.5 Subject: Re: Floppy tape program QIC-80 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:48:45 -0700 (PDT), Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: >> Any new Colorado QIC80 type driver apps on the horrizon ? > > YES! please retrieve and test > freefall.freebsd.org:/pub/incoming/lft.tar.gz > > this is a new floopy tape driver/filter program from > Richard Samuel. Thank you Richard Samuel! I'll give it a look as well, since I've got a floppy tape device which I'd like to get working under FreeBSD. > (i dont have a floppy tape and need people to test > this program ;) You've another victim (willing). :-) // Roland Jay Roberts - Team OS/2 - // Internet: jay@map.com // FidoNet: Roland Roberts @ 1:321/305.5 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 21:15:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA12391 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy.wisetech.com (badboy.wisetech.com [205.231.232.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12386 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy.wisetech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by badboy.wisetech.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA10259; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:15:01 -0400 Message-ID: <31E47FC5.41C67EA6@wisetech.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:15:01 -0400 From: Rick Weldon Organization: Weldon Internet SEcurity Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Simonson CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What to do. References: <31E42208.5836@bossnt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Simonson wrote: > > Hi, > My recent interest in the internet has grown in recent months. I > have no real background in UNIX, except when I download my homepage info > on the local server. I have purchased the FreeBSD from Walnut creek. Gotta start somewhere! Excellent choice that you picked FreeBSD. A *real* operating system. > In a month or so I am going to make an attempt at putting together a server > using FreeBSD as the OS. I am thinking of a Cyrix 6-86/motherboard. I've seen mixed reviews here on using the Cyrix chips. You might want to go with an intel board. If anyone differs feel free to pipe in. Last I checked there wasn't that big of a price difference. I believe someone said 100 bucks. Using intel might save you some trouble. If you are trying to learn Unix, you probably don't want to deal with hardware problems. > also think a Creative Labs soundcard, Seagate HD, and some floppie. I > have very limited experience with this. These will work. You didn't mention CDROM though. You have to be careful there. Only certain IDE types are supported. I use a Mitsumi 2 Speed. Not very fast, but it meets my needs. Check the HARDWARE file on the CDROM for a list of supported hardware types. > I do have a great interest though. That's what it takes. I hope you like to read manuals and have lots of patience as well :) I'm not very sure what you mean by a server. Do you mean a server for yourself (as in workstation) or where you would have customers using it? This would have a large impact on what hardware you buy. > I have added ram and a second HD to my existing system (486 > DX2). I am running WIN95 with little trouble. It is a learning > experience. When I get this up I would like to offer access to the net. > I am curious if there are any usergroups doing this? Am I choosing > equipt that is acceptable to run FreeBSD? >Any advice would be appreciated. If you are too busy I understand that too. > The 486 DX2 would make an excellent personal work station. It might also do well for a server depending on what you do with it. Again, it is hard to make recommendations since I'm not sure what you want to do with the box. -- | Rick Weldon -- WISE-Tech LLC | E-mail: rick@wisetech.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 21:24:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA13108 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail0.iij.ad.jp (root@mail0.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13103 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucp1.iij.ad.jp (uucp1.iij.ad.jp [192.244.176.73]) by mail0.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-MAIL) with ESMTP id NAA09910; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:24:28 +0900 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp1.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-UUCP) with UUCP id NAA07560; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:24:28 +0900 Received: from xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp by yyy.kgc.co.jp (8.7.5/3.4W:95122611) id MAA10421; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:57:46 +0900 (JST) Received: by xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp (8.6.12/3.3W8:95062916) id MAA03963; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:57:46 +0900 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:57:46 +0900 From: Toshihiro Kanda Message-Id: <199607110357.MAA03963@xxx.fct.kgc.co.jp> To: Justin Ashworth Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Justin Ashworth's message of 11 Jul 1996 02:29:13 +0900 References: <2.2.32.19960710153717.006dd1f0@cs.montana.edu> Subject: Re: tip command-line dialup problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I got tip all set up according to the 11.14 FAQ, and now I'm getting > an error message that goes like this: > > --------------------------- > > # tip -115200 2271704 > lock open: No such file or directory > all ports busy > # I think you don't have a write permission to /var/spool/lock/. Run tip(1) as a root (or set permission tip(1) or the lock directory appropriately). candy@fct.kgc.co.jp (Toshihiro Kanda) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 21:35:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA13640 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13635 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA18172 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:35:28 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA00346; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:41:22 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607110341.UAA00346@starshine> Subject: Re: Novell 3.12 on FreeBSD To: bala@cst.com.au (Bala Periasamy) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607110212.MAA05875@skeg.cst.com.au> from "Bala Periasamy" at Jul 11, 96 12:12:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > We have our backup device on FreeBSD. We also run a Novell 3.12 file > server for the Admin. Can any one tell me how to backup the novell on > to the backup device ( connected to the freebsd machine)? > > Is there a Netware client for FreeBSD? > > thanx > bala I'm going to say this as gently as I can: You're dreaming! Even if you had a FreeBSD Netware client (let's say that someone took the Linux ncpfs or the Caldera bindery/NDS client and got it running under FreeBSD (no small feat since they both rely on kernel support for IPX)) -- you still wouldn't be able to do proper Netware backups. Merely being able to copy files off of a Netware server doesn't constitute a *backup*. By the same token you wouldn't use the 'cp' command to perform a *backup* of your Unix filesystems since you'd lose all the meta information about the file's ownership, permissions, and possibly location and other more subtle meta-info (like the syschg and other UFS flags). In addition you might create files with expanses of nul's where the original was created as a 'sparse file.' Now take that problem (what you know about Unix meta info), double it, then go to the next order of magnitude. That's about the extent of the problem if you just copy files off a Netware server and just copy them back. Naturally it's possible that mere copies are sufficient to your needs (i.e. you are just trying to ensure the integrity of a single user's files which are not shared by others on the server or for which there are not trustee assignments (access control settings)). It's just very important that you distinguish between that and a "backup of the server." Given that limitation, you have some alternatives that I know of. Only one of them is free. You could install a TCP/IP suite of NLM's on the Netware server (including an NFS server or FTP daemon) -- Novell markets about three different packages that do different parts of this; FlexIP is another product in this category. You could come up with a third machine running DOS, OS/2, Windows, NT, or Linux. You'd configure it as a "gateway" between the Netware system and the FreeBSD box. For DOS or Windows you'd also have to come up with a TCP/IP package to install on it -- with Win '95 or NT you have the basic network support -- but you'd want to obtain some applications level tools (like ncftp, or an NFS client) and you'd have to write or obtain scripts to support it. With Caldera, or any other Linux/ncpfs, you could set up your gateway with cron jobs, web/CGI triggers, netcat (listen mode) or any number of other ways. Of these, only the Linux/ncpfs option is free. Although it works -- it doesn't offer very robust or high performance. Caldera is a commercial package -- but much less expensive than any NLM solution that I've heard of. Caldera is also less expensive then NT or OS/2 and compares pretty favorably to DOS/Windows solutions (except that it's *much* more stable and rich than DOS/Windows). If it was me -- I'd go for the Caldera option. In fact, when it was me -- I did. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 22:08:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA15216 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piccolo.cco.caltech.edu (thankhuu@piccolo.cco.caltech.edu [131.215.48.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15211 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by piccolo.cco.caltech.edu (8.6.12/DEI:4.45) id WAA19547; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:07:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:07:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Thanh Khuu X-Sender: thankhuu@piccolo To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: installation problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to install FreeBSD under Windows95 and so far have been unsuccessful. It reboots, but then goes into the 95 boot sequence instead. Is there something that I should know? Oh by the way, I am trying to use a totally separate hard drive for FreeBSD instead of a partition on C:, should I do something different for this? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 10 23:02:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19378 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 23:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19369 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 23:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA01322 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 23:02:11 -0700 Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ueEpc-000QcJC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA15888; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:59:03 +0200 Message-Id: <199607110559.HAA15888@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Help With GCC!!! To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:59:02 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199607101923.TAA02522@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from "James Raynard" at Jul 10, 96 07:23:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard writes: > >>> I would've just grabbed 2.7.2, but I remember reading somewhere that >>> FreeBSD hasn't jumped to that version yet because of a bunch of bugs and >>> other problems. >> >> The problems with 2.7.2 are exaggerated. > > Apparently it needs substantial patching to compile the kernel > correctly. > >> I'm using it for everything. > > Perhaps you have been lucky :-) No, I've been unlucky. You're right: there are problems, they just didn't bite me until yesterday. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 01:04:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24059 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA24045 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr (guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr [193.51.25.1]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id KAA11161 ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:03:59 +0200 (METDST) Received: from angrand.prism.uvsq.fr (angrand.prism.uvsq.fr [193.51.25.85]) by guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id KAA11862 ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:03:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (son@localhost) by angrand.prism.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id LAA06433 ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:06:35 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:06:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607110906.LAA06433@angrand.prism.uvsq.fr> From: Nicolas Souchu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: n_melhor@Telebit.COM Subject: Installing parallel port IOMega ZIP drive? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just got an IOMega parallel port ZIP drive (100 MEG, > dismountable) and installed it on my DOS/Windows and OS/2 systems. > It wasn't easy on OS/2, but it went OK. I then started to install > it on my FreeBSD system. Some information sources (any others?): > > http://www.torque.net/zip.html {mostly Linux ->} > http://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.html {FreeBSD ->} > http://www.prism.uvsq.fr/~son/ppa3.c {the source} > > This source is a port from Linux, and probably hasn't seen HEAVY You're probably the first user of this stuff. Thanks. > use. However, I was willing to take a try. This source describes > how it should be incorporated. I modified the MY_MACHINE and > files.386 files and started a build. I got a compile error on > ppa3.c, and had to replace all int32 with int32_t and all u_int32 > with u_int32_t. It built then. This is surely because you're system release is greater than mine. (2.1-960627-SNAP > 2.1.0-RELEASE). I'll fix it - thanks. > > First, I found that the parallel port address they'd suggested > (0x278) was wrong for me, and I needed 0x378 -- which I got from > an old 'dmesg' output for LPR1. > > Now it works. It identifies my device, and I can read it (I > haven't tried writing yet, but I think it'll go). > > However, I find that it takes a LONG time to do the initial device > probes. Since the ppa interface is SCSI-ish, I thought the > SCSI_DELAY might change this. I reduced it from its original 15 > seconds (it seemed MUCH longer) to 5. On reboot, probing now took > about 2 minutes! I changed it back to 15 seconds. The target number of the drive is 6 on the scsi bus. Thus, when attaching devices, 7 targets are probed... it takes a while. SCSI_DELAY is NOT defined in my MACHINE configuration file. Try without it. However, I'll have a look to SCSI_DELAY = 5. nicolas -- Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr Laboratoire PRiSM - Versailles, FRANCE From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 01:04:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24060 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA24048 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr (guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr [193.51.25.1]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id KAA11158 ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:03:56 +0200 (METDST) Received: from angrand.prism.uvsq.fr (angrand.prism.uvsq.fr [193.51.25.85]) by guillotin.prism.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id KAA11858 ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:03:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (son@localhost) by angrand.prism.uvsq.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id LAA06430 ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:06:30 +0200 (MET DST) To: "Nathan Melhorn" CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing parallel port IOMega ZIP drive? References: <9606108370.AA837051029@smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com> From: Nicolas Souchu Date: 11 Jul 1996 11:06:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Nathan Melhorn"'s message of Wed, 10 Jul 96 19:00:02 EST Message-ID: Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.25/XEmacs 19.14 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Nathan Melhorn" writes: > Questions, if you happen to know.. > > 1) Do you check for fancier parallel ports? It looked like you ran > "nibble" and a more advance level. The only two transfer mode used by the driver are 4bit and 8bit modes. > > 2) Do you know of any ZipTools packages for FreeBSD? I saw that a > Linux version had just been released, but I don't know enough to > port code into my kernel. I have no enough time yet for this, and I prefer fixing the problem of polling before this. But you may look at the linux-ziptools http://www.torque.net/ziptools.html package and port it to freebsd with the scsi user library. Inform me of your work ;^) > > 3) Do you have a more advanced version of your code? Not yet. But soon, I hope. nicolas -- Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr Laboratoire PRiSM - Versailles, FRANCE From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 01:08:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24341 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA24335 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA07530 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Prev-Resent: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:08:01 -0700 Prev-Resent: "questions@freebsd.org " Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jkh-sl0-o.cdrom.com [204.216.27.193]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA04068 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA14939 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from echo.ccc.com. (echo.ccc.com [198.137.187.6]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA26174 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:35:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by echo.ccc.com. id aa00497; 10 Jul 96 10:19 EDT To: jkh@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD 2.1 and Adaptec SCSI Strangeness Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:19:40 -0400 From: "Clement T. Cole" Message-ID: <9607101019.aa00497@echo.ccc.com.> Resent-To: questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:08:01 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <7528.837072481@time.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody else seen this type of situtation? Is there helpf or me? At Locus, we have been running FreeBSD 2.1 on a PCI based Pentium, w/16 megs of memory and an Adaptec 2740 SCSI -- which all installed and runs fine (but failed on an older Gateway with an ESDI controller - Bruce and I worked through that. In fact, I switched to the SCSI to fix the ESDI problems). At home I have been running 2.0.5 on a 386 ``production'' system and have run it off and on on my 486 (which is my ``blow up system).'' Anyway -- the important data point is that on two >>PCI systems<< with an Adaptec, FreeBSD 2.1 has been shown to run fine. And the 2.0.5 runs fine on my two ISA (x86) base systems at home... I'm on the subscription service and have had the 2.1 CD, but until now no time to convert. When over the 4th, I finally had a litte free time so... so I wanted to upgrade the 2.0.5 system at my house. They are: 1.) 386/40 16 Megs (generic MB), Adaptec 1542B SCSI 2.) 486/33 16 Megs (Micronic ``Geminii'' MB), Adaptec 1542B SCSI Remember 386 is running FreeBSD 2.05 no sweat (it what I composed this message on). I try to use the 2.1 update scheme -- and I get install errors -- disk corruption (like SCSI driver problems).... (so I rolled back to 2.05 via backup tape and I'm fine for now but..). I said --- well Jordon told that the upate stuff was still being debugged, so I'll try a different path. I said -- let's try a fresh install, but I'll borrow another CPU (which runs a different OS normaly) and do the install on a new disk, and then do a disk swap So... I go over to the 486 which has run: 1.) SVR3 2.) Win/311 3.) Win95 4.) Win/NT 5.) FreeBSD 2.0.5 I disconnect my system disk, and take a new Hitachi 2 Gig disk and install DOS/WIN in the first 300 Megs. I run diagnostics. Hardware is very happy. I even install NT on the system to push the hardware configuration. Note: I had cut the SCSI chain down to: Adaptec @ 7, Disk @ 0, and Toshiba CD-ROM @ 6. So I reformat the disk again, and reinstall DOS/WIN at the bottom. Then Boot DOS, and run the FreeBSD 2.1 install in ``Novice'' mode. And.... I get failures consistantly, during the cpio of the floppies/root.cpio area. So... I borrow a different copy of the 2.1 CD from work and try again, but get the same type of failures at a different place. So... I make a boot floppy. This is worse. I hang during boot in the SCSI driver with the SCSI access LED stuck on (not I boot from CD fine mind you...) .... ahb0 not found aha0: aha_cmd, cmd/data port full aha0: at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa aha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aha0:0:0) timed out adapter not taking commands.. frozen?? Debugger("aha1542") called. (aha0:0:0) timed out adapter not taking commands.. frozen?? Debugger("aha1542") called. AGAIN aha0: MBO 02 and not 00 (free) <-- this repeats many times before I kill it --> So... I think -- wait a minute this used to work. So for grins, I'll try the FreeBSD 2.0.5 CD's. Well - It works fine on this hardware (just like the 386). I even set up a disk exsercisor that I had make sure. And yes it works all under 2.0.5. So... I conclude something changed in the 2.1 SCSI driver Other interesting tid bit... the 386 system has run Linux no sweat. One reason I became FreeBSD fan, was that this type of hang was typically of Linux on the 486. I later found out that the Linux had some over lapped I/O problems with drivers that performed true (so called ``first party'' DMA). I gave up and switched to FreeBSD which worked (just like AT&T UNIX did). But sadly - it looks like we picked up the a problem similar to Linux. So... my questions: What changed? Anybody else see this? Was this ``fixed'' in 2.1x? and... What do you think should be my next step? Thanks again, Clem PS One other minor bug in sysinstall. The auto size code for the FreeBSD partitions/slice stuff gets the -u parameter to newfs wrong consistantly for the last slice you have (/var or /usr which ever). The number seems calculated, not random, but wrong none the less. / and all other UFS's before the last one get a -u param of 4096. But the last UFS slice is a strange number. Note: I have seen this on all 2.1 installs at LCC and meant to tell you about it, and frankly I forgot. If you watch the logs of the newfs (on ttyv1) you'll see an error go past. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 01:27:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA25421 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA25410 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA07678 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Prev-Resent: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:27:22 -0700 Prev-Resent: "questions@freebsd.org " Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jkh-sl0-o.cdrom.com [204.216.27.193]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA05347 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15392 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from echo.ccc.com. (echo.ccc.com [198.137.187.6]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA29354 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:23:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by echo.ccc.com. id aa00246; 10 Jul 96 17:07 EDT To: jkh@cdrom.com, clemc@echo.ccc.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 and Adaptec 1542 SCSI Strangeness Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:07:16 -0400 From: "Clement T. Cole" Message-ID: <9607101707.aa00246@echo.ccc.com.> Resent-To: questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:27:23 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <7676.837073643@time.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk More info... As I type this message, I'm trying an end-around that gets farther... but fails basically in the same way -- data corruption. I think I have the ``goods'' on the fact that there is an SCSI I/O problem (maybe in overlapped operations) in the 2.1 driver on the ISA 1542 driver, since this works under FreeBSD 2.0.5 on this hardware (as well as a few other OS's). Note I have a second copy of the 2.1 CD (that I borrowed) since the boot floppy trick is hanging in the SCSI driver... I need two copies so I can get the original copy of the system in memory. Set Up.. 0.) Using took my working 386/FreeBSD 2.0.5 system. put one of the FreeBSD 2.1 disk1's in its cdrom. put the other FreeBSD 2.1 disk1's in the ``target'' (486) system's cdrom make sure you have a 2.1 ``root'' floppy. 1.) Boot DOS on the 486 and then use fbsdboot to load the 2.1 kernel. 2.) Using the ftp install, get the ``dists'' from the 386 across the ethernet (and the root from the floppy) What I'm doing.... after using the local CDROM to load the kernel, the only SCSI activity is the DISK (and the 1452). So only a single device is on the bus, but whatever overlap the driver does with a single drive are occuring (We are also now generating ethernet traffic). Results... I get >>much<< further - but I eventually panic with an inode corruption. Clearly a SCSI operations is not being handled properly. This is different from an ``hang'' mind you, but I bet its related. Clem PS Maybe you guys should add me to your ``QA'' group. Clearly, I try things other folks may not ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 01:30:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA25715 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25698 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ueH6h-000auoC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:28 EET Received: from irvinep5 (irvinep5.pcm.co.za [196.3.226.90]) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA20735; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:29:54 +0200 Message-Id: <199607110829.KAA20735@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: questions@freebsd.org, jsimons@bossnt.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:17:37 +2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: What to do. Reply-to: ishort@pcm.co.za.pcm.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: ishort@pcm.co.za X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi > > In a month or so I am going to make an attempt at putting together a server > > using FreeBSD as the OS. I am thinking of a Cyrix 6-86/motherboard. > > I've seen mixed reviews here on using the Cyrix chips. You might want to go with an intel board. If > anyone differs feel free to pipe in. Last I checked there wasn't that big of a price difference. I > believe someone said 100 bucks. Using intel might save you some trouble. If you are trying to learn > Unix, you probably don't want to deal with hardware problems. I've have good experiences with the AMD K5 75MHz. Works well with Windows NT, should be fine with FreeBSD I don't like the way that a Cyrix 6x86-133 is actually a 110MHz chip. How many motherboards support 110MHz anyway? Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Professional Computer Manufacturers Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 02:03:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27733 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA27726 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:05:10 +0000 Message-ID: <31E4C31A.3751@nation-net.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:02:18 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: mb_map full? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message greeted me this morning: www /kernel: mb_map full Is this the NMBCLUSTERS too small problem or something else. Isn't there a BSDI patch relating to this same problem? Regards, Paul Walsh From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 02:14:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28209 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (viking.ucsalf.ac.uk [192.195.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28194 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0ueHpV-00036wC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:14 BST Message-Id: From: mark@plato.ucsalf.ac.uk (Mark Powell) Subject: Does Adaptec 7880 Ultra support simultaneous wide and narrow transfers? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 11 Jul 1996 10:14:32 +0100 X-Gated-To-News-By: news@ucsalf.ac.uk Xref: viking.ucsalf.ac.uk comp.periphs.scsi:25225 list.freebsd.scsi:362 list.freebsd.questions:6987 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:22289 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a motherboard with a built in 7880 Ultra with a narrow and a wide connector surface mounted. I have a Conner CFP4207S on the narrow channel with TERM/PWR enabled and a Conner CFP4207W on the wide channel with TERM/PWR enabled. I wanted to move my FreeBSD-2.1-stable filesystem from the narrow disk to the wide. I assumed that I could simply copy all the data over with (narrow on sd0, wide on sd1; with 512k on board data buffer): $ dd if=/dev/sd0c of=/dev/sd1c bs=512k However, this only yields data transfer rates in the 200K/s range. I've tried both larger and smaller buffer sizes with no apparent increase. I'm beginning to wonder if the 7870 chipset is performing these transfers simultaneously. I would expect such a command to push both drives at full speed with the drive access lights on solidly. However, the drive lights are alternating off/no for around 1 sec. periods. Am I expecting the wrong thing here? If I turn on WIDE negotiation for the W drive, the kernel enables 16bit transfers: ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:18 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00006000 size=0100. mapreg[14] type=0 addr=f2000000 size=1000. ahc0: BurstLen = 8DWDs, Latency Timer = 32PCLKS ahc0: Reading SEEPROM...done. ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs Reseting Channel A ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program...Done ahc0: Probing channel A ahc0: target 0 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf (ahc0:0:0): "CONNER CFP4207S 4.28GB 1524" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4096MB (8388608 512 byte sectors) sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 3999 cyls, 20 heads, and an average 104 sectors/ track ahc0: target 1 using 16Bit transfers ahc0: target 1 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0x8 (ahc0:1:0): "CONNER CFP4207W 4.28GB 1524" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 4096MB (8388608 512 byte sectors) sd1(ahc0:1:0): with 3999 cyls, 20 heads, and an average 104 sectors/ track ahc0: target 2 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0x8 (ahc0:2:0): "HP C1533A 9503" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x24, variable blocks, write-enabled ahc0:A:4: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers ahc0: target 4 synchronous at 4.4MHz, offset = 0xf (ahc0:4:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA 0236" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:4:0): CD-ROM cd0(ahc0:4:0): NOT READY asc:4,1 cd0(ahc0:4:0): Logical unit is in process of becoming ready can't get the size However, the same command causes the following SCSI errors on the console: sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x48 ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset #2. 2 SCBs aborted sd0(ahc0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred field replaceable unit: 14 This effectively hangs the machine, requiring a reset. Whats wrong here? -- Mark Powell - Senior Network Technician - Room: C806 Computer Services Unit, University College Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 745 3376 Fax: +44 161 736 3596 Email: mark@ucsalf.ac.uk finger mark@ucsalf.ac.uk (for PGP key) Home Page From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 02:22:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28869 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28862 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA06616; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607110921.CAA06616@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Paul Walsh cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mb_map full? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:02:18 BST." <31E4C31A.3751@nation-net.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:21:48 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >This message greeted me this morning: > >www /kernel: mb_map full > >Is this the NMBCLUSTERS too small problem or something else. Yes. > Isn't there >a BSDI patch relating to this same problem? If there were, it wouldn't be relavent to FreeBSD. You need to either increase maxusers or add an options "NMBCLUSTERS=" to your kernel config file. A suitable value might be 2000 or 4000 depending on the size of the machine and the number of simultaneous network connections. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 02:53:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA00728 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net (relay-5.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA00716 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-5.mail.demon.net id ak24437; 11 Jul 96 10:12 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00271; 10 Jul 96 22:38 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA02508; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:09:47 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:09:47 GMT Message-Id: <199607101909.TAA02508@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: paul@nation-net.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31E3885F.1454@nation-net.com> (message from Paul Walsh on Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:39:27 +0100) Subject: Re: Forwarding file format Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can you give me an example of the format of a forwarding file for > sendmail and any other hints. I understand its location is specified in > sendmail.cf ? A number of examples come with the sendmail source. If you didn't install the source distribution, they've been separated out and put in the ssmailcf.aa file, which can be extracted by doing, as root, # cd /usr/src # tar xzvf /path/to/ssmailcf.aa -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 03:08:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA01576 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bud.indirect.com (root@bud.indirect.com [165.247.1.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA01571 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from indirect.indirect.com (s98.phxslip4.indirect.com [165.247.24.98]) by bud.indirect.com (8.7.4/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA16252 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:08:35 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <31E4D2BA.2622@bud.indirect.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:08:58 -0700 From: enzo X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Error Message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got and error message when trying to configure and (?)install(?). I had gotten boot.flp and rawrite.exe and made a boot disk. I waited 5 secs. and i got the following message: "text=0xfc000 Error: C:19553273 > 1023 (Bios Limit)" after that my A: drive (floppy drive) froze and I had to restart my computer. Please HELP!!! -Enzo From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 03:28:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02420 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA02415 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA10945; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:25:32 -0500 Message-Id: <9607111025.AA10945@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:25:32 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mark@ucsalf.ac.uk Subject: Re: Does Adaptec 7880 Ultra support simultaneous wide and narrow transfers? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a motherboard with a built in 7880 Ultra with a narrow and a wide connector > surface mounted. I have a Conner CFP4207S on the narrow channel with TERM/PWR enabled > and a Conner CFP4207W on the wide channel with TERM/PWR enabled. I wanted to move my > FreeBSD-2.1-stable filesystem from the narrow disk to the wide. I assumed that I could > simply copy all the data over with (narrow on sd0, wide on sd1; with 512k on board > data buffer): > > $ dd if=/dev/sd0c of=/dev/sd1c bs=512k > > However, this only yields data transfer rates in the 200K/s range. I've tried both > larger and smaller buffer sizes with no apparent increase. I'm beginning to wonder > if the 7870 chipset is performing these transfers simultaneously. I would expect > such a command to push both drives at full speed with the drive access lights on > solidly. However, the drive lights are alternating off/no for around 1 sec. periods. > Am I expecting the wrong thing here? > If I turn on WIDE negotiation for the W drive, the kernel enables 16bit transfers: When did you get your -stable system? There were some bug fixes that were incorporated into the aic7xxx driver in late June. Make sure you're running a -stable after that date. If you want to increase performance, add option "AHC_TAGENABLE" to your kernel configuration. If all your devices handle tagged queueing properly, then you can try adding "AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE" to your kernel configuration also. For devices on both internal narrow and wide channels, you should have termination set to Low Off / High On. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 03:29:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02496 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02484 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.nation-net.com (194.159.125.14) by www.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:31:15 +0000 Message-ID: <31E4D747.16C9@nation-net.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:28:23 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Restricted shell for Web users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone advise on configuring a shell account suitable for commercial users of a web server offering rented space, access via ftp/telnet and standard apps like perl would need to be available. Mail accounts aren't needed, just forwarding. I've heard there is such a thing as a virtual shell? It sounds like just what I need!! Regards, Paul Walsh. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 04:08:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA04678 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 04:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA04665 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 04:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA05601 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:08:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:08:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mouse Outside of X Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to use my mouse outside of X. It would be nice to be able to cut/copy/paste in my shell. I know when I ran Linux, mouse was available from the shell. TIA ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 04:25:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA06304 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 04:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts5-122.indigo.ie [194.125.133.122]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA06298 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 04:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA08976 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:18:02 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:16:11 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@NetworX.ie Subject: Multiport I/O boards To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I remember seeing some questions re multi-port I/O boards over the last week, but I didn't need to know way back then. Question: does the range of Digiboard multi-port sio products work under FreeBSD 2.1 (I mean *really* work -- trouble-free use)? Where can I get my hands on the emails of the last week relating to multi-port I/O cards? Any pointers to other relevant info (the handbook is very sparse). Thanks, Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 04:33:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA06708 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 04:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plato.ucsalf.ac.uk (plato.ucsalf.ac.uk [193.62.40.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA06703 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 04:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by plato.ucsalf.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0ueJzL-000jxOC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 12:32 WET DST Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:32:55 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Powell To: "Daniel M. Eischen" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does Adaptec 7880 Ultra support simultaneous wide and narrow transfers? In-Reply-To: <9607111025.AA10945@iworks.InterWorks.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > When did you get your -stable system? There were some bug fixes that were incorporated > into the aic7xxx driver in late June. Make sure you're running a -stable after that > date. Cheers, that seems to have fixed it. ~900K/s now. Still I thought two 7200rpm drives would be at least in the M/s range? > If you want to increase performance, add option "AHC_TAGENABLE" to your kernel > configuration. If all your devices handle tagged queueing properly, then you > can try adding "AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE" to your kernel configuration also. Okay, done both. Seems okay. Drive seems to make a different noise on boot-up now. Different seek patterns with the new code or just pure imagination? > For devices on both internal narrow and wide channels, you should have termination > set to Low Off / High On. Already done that. Many thanks for the help though. > Dan Eischen > deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org Mark Powell - Senior Network Technician - Room: C806 Computer Services Unit, University College Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 745 3376 Fax: +44 161 736 3596 Email: mark@ucsalf.ac.uk finger mark@ucsalf.ac.uk (for PGP key) Home Page From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 07:16:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13050 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mendota.terracom.net (mendota.terracom.net [205.213.64.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA13007 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [205.213.64.30] (rightfield.bugsoft.com [205.213.64.30]) by mendota.terracom.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA22345; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:18:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: craigh@pop.terracom.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:16:05 -0500 To: James Raynard , matt@bdd.net From: craigh@bugsoft.com (Craig A. Heilman) Subject: Re: kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 19:31 07/09/96, James Raynard wrote: >> After reinstalling FreeBSD (2.1.0-R, 2.1-Stable-snap, 2.2-Current-snap) >> the kernel boot sequence determines it's on sd1, and proceeds to try and >> mount root there. > >Hmm. The install program's reasoning appears to be "this is the second >disk, and it's a SCSI disk, so it must be... the second SCSI disk!" > >> I have no sd1, and the system properly finds the drive during the boot >> sequence as sd0. I can make the system boot properly by either using the >> "hd(1,a)/kernel" option at init, or the "-r" option at init. > >Yep, this is how to boot FreeBSD off a SCSI disk when there's also an >IDE disk around... > >> When I boot with hd(1,a)/kernel, the init lines indicates that I'm not >> booting from sd0, not sd1, as it would default. This doesn't seem to be >> an option during my kernel build, so what might be wrong? > >The answer is in the bootblocks on the IDE drive that specify which >drive to boot from. If you get bored typing hd(1,a)/kernel every time >you boot, here's how to change them so it happens automatically:- > ># cd /sys/i386/boot/biosboot ># vi boot.c >part = 0; >unit = 1; >maj = 1; ># make ># disklabel -B -b boot1 -s boot2 wd0 Hmmm - I've been trying to figure out a way to do exactly this. I have one IDE drive (all DOS) and one SCSI drive (all FreeBSD) and I'm getting tired of typing "hd(1,a)/kernel" at the booteasy prompt. I tried the steps outlined above but there were several problems. The first problem is I think you forgot to run "make install" after running make (to copy the new boot1 and boot2 files to /usr/mdec/). The second problem is that when I attempt to run the disklabel command exactly as listed above, I get an error message "disklabel: /dev/rwd0c: Undefined error: 0". Should I be specifying a different disk (ie. sd0) in place of wd0? Help!!! Craig P.S. I'm running 2.1R -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Craig A. Heilman Bugaboo Software * * craigh@bugsoft.com Software Engineering & Consulting * * (608) 274-2003 http://www.bugsoft.com/ * -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 07:22:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13437 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13422 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA13232; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:22:20 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02612; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:23:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:23:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Thanh Khuu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Thanh Khuu wrote: > I am trying to install FreeBSD under Windows95 and so far have been > unsuccessful. It reboots, but then goes into the 95 boot sequence > instead. Is there something that I should know? Oh by the way, I am Do you mean that you put the floppy into the floppy drive, reboot the computer, and then it goes into the Win95 boot sequence? Or do you mean that you have FreeBSD installed onto your hdd, have booteasy installed, and that your computer boots Win95 even if you press [F2] or whatever for FreeBSD? If you mean that your computer boots Windows 95 even if you have the FreeBSD boot floppy in, then you should check your boot sequence. The `A' drive should be checked first, then the `C' drive. If you have installed from the floppy fine, there are a number of other problems that could be biting you. I can never keep them or their solutions straight, but in lue of anyone who can responding, you might try installing OSBS (from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/). > trying to use a totally separate hard drive for FreeBSD instead of a > partition on C:, should I do something different for this? IDE or SCSI? Is there another DOS partition on the second drive, or is it just purely for FreeBSD? -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 07:35:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA14300 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spiff.cc.iastate.edu (spiff.cc.iastate.edu [129.186.142.89]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA14294 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by spiff.cc.iastate.edu with sendmail-5.65 id ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:35:06 -0500 Message-Id: <9607111435.AA06546@spiff.cc.iastate.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: graphix@iastate.edu Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:35:04 CDT From: Kent Vander Velden Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI 100Mbps ethernet card support with either -stable or -current? In another box I have a cheap NE2100 compatible card. The kernel on that box reports CRC check error VERY often and Framming error once in a while. I have commented out most of the error reporting mechanism from the kernel to avoid /var from filling up with these errors. Is there a better solution? Is this due to the type of ethernet card? Thanks. --- Kent Vander Velden graphix@iastate.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 07:48:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA15061 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA15056 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA25976 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:48:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:48:10 -0400 From: Charles Green Message-Id: <199607111448.KAA25976@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Any one try Applixware for Red Hat Linux - Office Suite on Freebsd? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any one try Applixware for Red Hat Linux - Office Suite on Freebsd? I took a look at the screenshots of applix-word and it looks an aweful lot like Word for Mac. It also claims to be able to import/export Word documents. This would be great for me because (where I work) all documents must be in Word format. -- Charles Green, PRC Inc. UN*X System Administration 22 Powell Ave. Apt. B UN*X Security & Whitesboro, NY 13492 Programming From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 07:57:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16325 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ax433.mclink.it (ax433.mclink.it [192.106.166.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA16302 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp-186.mclink.it by ax433.mclink.it id aa08690; 11 Jul 96 16:57 CEST Message-ID: <31E516D9.446B9B3D@mclink.it> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:59:37 +0200 From: Marco Masotti X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: prdf@cr-df.rnp.gov.br CC: questions@freebsd.org, mc7953@mclink.it Subject: Re: WWW-counter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 09 Jul 1996 Alex Carlos wrote: > Does anyone here have a cool WWW-counter ? > I got the WW-counter1.2 and installed it on my Free. It works, but >cannot load the images files. It seems it4 s using the GD library, but >I >don4 t know if I have it. Does anyone know where my I find it for the >Free ? > Does anyone have another one ? You can try: ftp://warm.semcor.com/pub/muquit/wwwcount2.3/wwwcount2.3.tar.gz It works very well with many platforms, including my 2.1R and stable. Check also the Digitmania site for an "avalanche" of GIF digits at http://cervantes.learningco.com/kevin/digits Happy counting, Marco. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 08:00:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17139 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jagor.srce.hr (root@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16073; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 07:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from a8-p2-zg.tel.hr [205.219.255.145] by jagor.srce.hr (8.7.5/8.6.12.CI) id QAA06595; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:56:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <31E51772.188D@jagor.srce.hr> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:02:10 +0200 From: Sinisa Sehovic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: announce@freebsd.org CC: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, security@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 08:04:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18384 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18377 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA01697; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:04:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Derek Collison cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3COM 3C590 support In-Reply-To: <9607102204.AA15351@tekbspa.tibco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Derek Collison wrote: > Does FreeBSD support this card and if so under which release? Should be supported in the upcoming 2.1.5 release and -current. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 08:05:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18529 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18511 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA01707; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:05:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:05:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: sameer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 3940W and kernel panics In-Reply-To: <199607110301.UAA21939@atropos.c2.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, sameer wrote: > We've recently added a 3940W and some wide disks to our > newsserver, and it has been panicking and trashing the disks on that > controller about every two days since the disks were installed. > > Our kernel boot says: > > [. . .] > Any ideas? Thanks. The panic detail would be helpful. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 08:18:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22114 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22097 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA12246; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:15:28 -0500 Message-Id: <9607111515.AA12246@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:15:28 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: mark@ucsalf.ac.uk Subject: Re: Does Adaptec 7880 Ultra support simultaneous wide and narrow transfers? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > > When did you get your -stable system? There were some bug fixes that were incorporated > > into the aic7xxx driver in late June. Make sure you're running a -stable after that > > date. > > Cheers, that seems to have fixed it. ~900K/s now. Still I thought two > 7200rpm drives would be at least in the M/s range? Hmm. Here's a Bonnie of a sytem we have here at work. It's a P166, 32M RAM, 2940UW, and a couple of 2.1GB Seagate Ultra Wide drives at 5400RPM: -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 100 3543 62.1 3584 14.2 1404 11.0 2515 97.6 3976 15.4 60.6 2.5 Tagged queueing and SCB paging are enabled. With simultaneous bonnies run on each disk: -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 100 2823 49.7 3478 14.7 1389 11.2 1795 72.2 3972 15.6 57.6 2.6 100 2757 51.0 4607 20.7 1436 11.6 3329 54.2 5174 21.2 65.9 3.1 Seems like you should be getting more than 900K/s... > Okay, done both. Seems okay. Drive seems to make a different noise on > boot-up now. Different seek patterns with the new code or just pure > imagination? Yeah, with tagged queueing enabled, the device(s) can process commands in any order it wants to increase performance (less seeking). Plus, you're sending more commands to the device and making it work harder. Without tagged queueing enabled, you limit the device to processing one command at a time. Tagged queueing is your friend :-) Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 08:25:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA23368 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (-@dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA23359 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22761; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:23:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607111523.KAA22761@dan.emsphone.com> Subject: Re: Does Adaptec 7880 Ultra support simultaneous wide and narrow transfers? To: mark@plato.ucsalf.ac.uk (Mark Powell) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:23:49 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mark Powell" at Jul 11, 96 10:14:32 am From: dnelson@emsphone.com (Dan Nelson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk in the last episode, Mark Powell said: > > [...] > I assumed that I could simply copy all the data over with > (narrow on sd0, wide on sd1; with 512k on board data buffer): > > $ dd if=/dev/sd0c of=/dev/sd1c bs=512k > > However, this only yields data transfer rates in the 200K/s range. > I've tried both larger and smaller buffer sizes with no apparent > increase. I'm beginning to wonder if the 7870 chipset is performing > these transfers simultaneously. I would expect such a command to push > both drives at full speed with the drive access lights on solidly. > However, the drive lights are alternating off/no for around 1 sec. > periods. Am I expecting the wrong thing here? If I turn on WIDE > negotiation for the W drive, the kernel enables 16bit transfers: What you're telling dd to do is read 512k, write 512k, read 512k, write 512k, etc. That's the cause of your alternating drive lights. Try piping two dd's together, like this: dd if=/dev/sd0c bs=32768 | dd of=/dev/sd1c bs=32768 This will take advantage of the pipe's buffering to let you read and write simultaneously. You may get better results by putting a team command (from /usr/ports/misc) inbetween the two dd's, but that may be overkill. The pipe should be enough. -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 08:27:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA23835 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br (srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br [200.248.184.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA23759 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (stumpf@localhost) by srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id PAA04186; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:33:00 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:33:00 GMT Message-Id: <199607111533.PAA04186@srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: interage@nutecnet.com.br Subject: Problems with a dgb To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: stumpf@interage.com.br X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I'm having problem when I try to install a DigiBoard 8e. The configuration on the kernel is : device dgb0 at isa? port 0x100 iomem 0x0d8000 iosiz ? tty When I start the machine with the new kernel I keep receiving the following message and I could not start the system : dgb0 switched to window 0x0 Thanks in advance Alexandre Stumpf stumpf@nutecnet.com.br From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 08:53:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA29584 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA29561 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA14851; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:53:31 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma014843; Thu Jul 11 15:53:10 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA04457; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:53:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:53:10 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199607111553.IAA04457@meerkat.mole.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, sameer@c2.net Subject: Re: Adaptec 3940W and kernel panics Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We've recently added a 3940W and some wide disks to our > newsserver, and it has been panicking and trashing the disks on that > controller about every two days since the disks were installed. [...] > chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 > chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 [...] > > We're running 2.1-STABLE. > > Any ideas? Thanks. Disable external cache :-( From experience on one system. Depends upon the motherboard, but it's worth a try, and it made much less performance hit than I would have expected. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 09:24:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07791 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07774 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-1.ime.net [206.231.148.130]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA17562; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E52A8A.24F8@ime.net> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:23:38 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert CC: Martin Loeffler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: <199607092052.NAA24963@phaeton.artisoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Failure modes: > > 1) Internal modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > Thats a matter of opinion Terry. I feel: External modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. Or the hardware they require. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 10:42:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21778 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21756; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:41:51 GMT Received: from hummer.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.7.5/ISnet/12-09-94); Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:42:32 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:42:31 +0000 () From: Stefan Thor Hreinsson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with PPP and cyclades (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I hope somebody can help with this problem. I'm trying to get ppp-iij using the tun device to work. I can connect to it and everything seems fine until I hangup, the ppp daemon doesn't terminate and just holds the device open. This happens only when using Cyclades 16-Ye DB25-DB25 device with 16 modems connected (from dmesg: cy0 irq 5 maddr 0xd4000 msize 8192 on isa). But when using sio everything works fine and ppp terminates. I'm using the same modem on both devices. I'm running FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE (Now named 2.1.5-GAMMA). Has anyone here had a problem similar like this ? Could this be a problem with the Cyclades card or the device driver ? Currently I'm using sliplogin.dynamic with the Cy-16 with the external connector box, and there are no trouble with that setup. But some of my users want to use ppp to connect to my server. Below are samples from the ppp.log while using ttyd0 and ttycf , and my ppp config file. (BTW. I'm using Trumpet 2.0f to connect.) -- /etc/ppp.conf default: set authname hummer.islandia.is enable lqr set debug phase lcp accept proxy enable proxy ttyd0: set device /dev/cuaa0 set ifaddr 194.144.233.1 194.144.233.36 set debug chat phase accept proxy enable proxy ttycf: set device /dev/cuacf set ifaddr 194.144.233.1 194.144.233.35 set debug chat phase accept proxy enable proxy stty -f /dev/ttycf speed 57600 baud; lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo iflags: -icrnl -ixon -ixany -imaxbel -brkint oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs cflags: cs8 -parenb crtscts stty -f /dev/ttyd0 speed 9600 baud; lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo iflags: -icrnl -ixon -ixany -imaxbel -brkint oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs cflags: cs8 -parenb ^^^^^^ No crtscts ? Is that normal ? This is what i get in ppp.log when connecting to /dev/ttycf 07-11 02:33:10 [14040] Using interface: tun0 07-11 02:33:10 [14040] Listening at 3000. 07-11 02:33:10 [14040] PPP Started. 07-11 02:33:10 [14040] Packet mode enabled 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] Phase: Authenticate 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] his = 0, mine = 0 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] Phase: Network 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] Phase: Terminate 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] Phase: Authenticate 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] his = 0, mine = 0 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] Phase: Network 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] Phase: Terminate 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] found interface ep0 for proxy arp 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] OsLinkup: 194.144.233.35 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] Phase: Authenticate 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] his = 0, mine = 0 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] Phase: Network 07-11 02:33:11 [14040] *Connected! 07-11 02:35:31 [14040] SIGTERM Here i had to kill the ppp daemon after hanging up on in Trumpet and the ppp proccess didn't die. 07-11 02:35:31 [14040] OsLinkdown: 194.144.233.35 07-11 02:35:31 [14040] Phase: Terminate 07-11 02:35:31 [14040] PPP Terminated. And this is what i get when i connect to /dev/ttyd0 07-11 02:37:12 [14073] Using interface: tun0 07-11 02:37:12 [14073] Listening at 3000. 07-11 02:37:12 [14073] PPP Started. 07-11 02:37:12 [14073] Packet mode enabled 07-11 02:37:12 [14073] Phase: Authenticate 07-11 02:37:12 [14073] his = 0, mine = 0 07-11 02:37:12 [14073] Phase: Network 07-11 02:37:13 [14073] found interface ep0 for proxy arp 07-11 02:37:13 [14073] OsLinkup: 194.144.233.36 07-11 02:37:13 [14073] *Connected! 07-11 02:37:27 [14073] Disconnected! 07-11 02:37:27 [14073] Connect time: 14 secs 07-11 02:37:27 [14073] Phase: Dead 07-11 02:37:27 [14073] OsLinkdown: 194.144.233.36 07-11 02:37:28 [14073] PPP Terminated. Everything is normal and the ppp proccess downs itself when I do BYE in Trumpet. Any help will be greatly appreciated, Med kvedju fra Islandi Sincerely Stefan Thor Hreinsson From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 10:47:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22046 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br [143.106.13.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22036 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vazquez@localhost) by kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (8.7.5/8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1) id OAA08910 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:16:20 GMT From: Pedro A M Vazquez Message-Id: <199607111416.OAA08910@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br> Subject: Gated GII To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:16:20 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello The gated manual mentions the Gated Interactive Interface, GII, an interactive interface that listens on port 616. I've tried with gated-3.5a11.tgz from 2.1.0 packages but was unable to activate it. Is this a compile time option? Pedro From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 11:53:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25597 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM (THOR.INNOSOFT.COM [192.160.253.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25580 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-7 #8694) id <01I6Y1YDAICO8Y4WXW@INNOSOFT.COM>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:52:40 -0700 (PDT) From: zounds@INNOSOFT.COM Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X In-reply-to: To: "Mike K." Cc: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Mike K. wrote: > Is there a way to use my mouse outside of X. It would be nice to be able > to cut/copy/paste in my shell. I know when I ran Linux, mouse was > available from the shell. TIA > > You werent running the shell when you were using the mouse in linux From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 12:02:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26436 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macbeth.ienet.com (macbeth.ienet.com [207.78.32.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26425 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brutus.ienet.com (brute.ienet.com [207.78.33.152]) by macbeth.ienet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05302 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31E5517A.9D5@ienet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:09:46 -0700 From: Terry Lee Organization: Internet Design Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: lp0 not in LINT? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Why isn't device lp0 a kernel configurable device (I can't find it in LINT)? Is there any way of getting rid of it in ifconfig and netstat? TIA, Terry From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 12:26:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27300 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27291 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA10597 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:26:11 -0700 Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA30157; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:43:47 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:43:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mkisofs struggles Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey Folks, New problem in the CD-writing business. I've got a machine running 9606[mumble]-Current, and I'm jamming up on a problem not with the CDR but with mkisofs. Straight from the guy who is doing the actual work: ========================================================================== "...I'mhaving a new problem now that won't go away. I'm getting an error in mkisofs. I've commented everything else out of the script and am just running mkisofs just as you had it in the original (which is still in your home directory - I've been editing a copy). The mkisofs line is (patience- i'm typing from memory till the network is back to flare...) mkisofs -d -a -N -l -R -T -v -a "This is a Test" -P "written by SG" \ -o /stage/cdrom.iso /stage/guimond/CD_IMAGE ...The error we get: mkisofs v1.04 assertion "extra == 0" failed: file [yadda/yadda/yadda/]mkisofs.c line 346 abort - core dumped so I'm unable to get this iso file made. I think I saw this problem last night, thought it was something in the script, changed the script (correctly - some file names and quotes and stuff needed correcting) and then it ran. I.E. we seem to have an intermittent error - but I've not been able to get mkisofs to run all day now. I've run mkisofs barebones, with few flags and just running on my little home directory, and got a different assertion error (on a _different_ conditional just a few lines away in the C code)...." ========================================================================== Any recommendations? Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 12:27:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27360 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27353 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA10602 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:26:46 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ai07439; 11 Jul 96 20:25 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa22181; 11 Jul 96 18:10 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00951; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:03:37 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:03:37 GMT Message-Id: <199607111003.KAA00951@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: thankhuu@cco.caltech.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Thanh Khuu on Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:07:42 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: installation problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to install FreeBSD under Windows95 and so far have been > unsuccessful. It reboots, but then goes into the 95 boot sequence > instead. Is there something that I should know? Oh by the way, I am > trying to use a totally separate hard drive for FreeBSD instead of a > partition on C:, should I do something different for this? Apparently there was a bug in the 2.1.0 installation program, which installed a boot manager to allow you to choose which system to boot, but put it on the wrong disk... Anyway, it's easy to install it yourself. Just reboot into DOS and run the bootinst.exe program from the tools directory on the CD. If you don't have the CD, grab bootinst.exe and boot.bin from the FTP site (using binary mode, of course), and do likewise. You'll need to reboot into DOS, rather than start a DOS session within Win95, as I'm told Win95 doesn't handle writing directly to disks properly (I don't have Win95). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 12:34:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27813 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27807 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hobbes.crim.ca (hobbes.crim.ca [132.218.1.154]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA10629 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:34:27 -0700 Received: from hobbes.crim.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hobbes.crim.ca (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id PAA21271; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607111933.PAA21271@hobbes.crim.ca> To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel malloc question In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:38:55 MDT." <199607102038.OAA24876@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:33:04 -0400 From: Jean-Philippe Belanger Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Since the kernel can't be swapped, why would you want virtual memory? > The driver can't be 'swapped', so virtual buys you nothing. Actually, what I'm doing is trying to write, strictly as an exercise, to write a "ramdisk". Having only 8 megs of ram on my system, I'd like to take advantage of virtual memory. So I know it doesn't ave much of a practical use, but I'd like to know if it's possible, and just how simple (or complicated) it would be. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 13:03:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00125 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA29995 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA21378 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma021376; Thu Jul 11 13:02:46 1996 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA17167 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:02:46 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199607112002.NAA17167@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: IDE PIO mode To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:02:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We had some trouble getting FreeBSD -current to work with a motherboard whose BIOS was configured to use PIO mode 4 for the IDE disk. Switching it to mode 0 seemed to solve the problem. My question is, what are these modes and which modes (0, 1, 2, 3, 4) does FreeBSD reliably work with? Thanks, -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@whistle.com * Whistle Communications Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 13:36:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02584 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitty.oester.com (kitty.oester.com [206.25.136.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02555; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fatcat.oester.com by kitty.oester.com (8.6.12/1.37) id UAA00206; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:16:26 GMT Message-ID: <31E564ED.5E13@oester.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:32:45 -0700 From: "G.R.Gircys" Reply-To: rich@oester.com Organization: Oesterreich & Assc. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: adaptec 154X support Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk freebsd, can someone confirm or deny the following. have a fine ole dx2/66 board with adaptec 1542B (older style with jumpers) - worked flawlessly with bsdi for 2 years - now moving to freebsd and find that during 2.1 install (usually while copying floppy resident files) system either hangs or panics (virt screen 2 messages about scsi bus locked). so i try a newer card - 1542 C/CF series - works great. does freebsd support the older adaptec 154X A/B? in my caseseems the answer is no. thnx, rich From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 14:02:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04455 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04449; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02422; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:01:49 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:01:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607112101.PAA02422@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: rich@oester.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adaptec 154X support In-Reply-To: <31E564ED.5E13@oester.com> References: <31E564ED.5E13@oester.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > can someone confirm or deny the following. > > have a fine ole dx2/66 board with adaptec 1542B (older style with > jumpers) - worked flawlessly with bsdi for 2 years - now moving to > freebsd and find that during 2.1 install (usually while copying floppy > resident files) system either hangs or panics (virt screen 2 messages > about scsi bus locked). > > so i try a newer card - 1542 C/CF series - works great. > > > does freebsd support the older adaptec 154X A/B? in my caseseems the > answer is no. The answer is most *positively* yes. I've been running on a 1542B since before FreeBSD came into existance, and still run it w/out problems. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 14:03:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04556 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04544 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA29605; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:57:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607112057.NAA29605@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup To: tcg@ime.net Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:57:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, martin.loeffler@utoronto.ca, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E52A8A.24F8@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 11, 96 12:23:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Failure modes: > > > > 1) Internal modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > > Thats a matter of opinion Terry. > I feel: > External modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > Or the hardware they require. Well, don't buy bad internal modems. 8-|. The problem is that you can't issue a blanket rule that way when manufacturers don't put "bad modem" on the outside of the box, since "the dealer told me it was a good modem, and you didn't give me a list of good modems, so I bought it". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 14:44:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA07873 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07859 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ueTWG-0001ESC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:43 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: limits on db data size? Date: 11 Jul 1996 17:43:29 -0400 Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4s3si1$jj7@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Older versions of dbm don't let you have key or data longer than the block size (minus epsilon, one presumes). The question is: do the db routines have a similar limitation? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 14:47:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08039 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08027; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA10766 ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:47:27 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA29086; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:41:15 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA20695; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:41:14 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA16491; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:35:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607112135.XAA16491@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: adaptec 154X support To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:35:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, rich@oester.com Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <31E564ED.5E13@oester.com> from "G.R.Gircys" at "Jul 11, 96 01:32:45 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As G.R.Gircys wrote: > does freebsd support the older adaptec 154X A/B? in my caseseems the > answer is no. My scratch machine runs fine with a 1540A, and i know more than one production-level machine that uses a 1540B. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 15:18:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10123 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10118 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.eng.umd.edu (ginger.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.20]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00755; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by ginger.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08218; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:15:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@ginger.eng.umd.edu To: Gary Chrysler cc: Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup In-Reply-To: <31E52A8A.24F8@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > > > Failure modes: > > > > 1) Internal modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > > > > Thats a matter of opinion Terry. > I feel: > External modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > Or the hardware they require. Gary, those of us that know how to use breakout boxes, and have dealt with serial commercially, usually react violently against internal modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). If you don't know how to use them, or aren't used to these tools, I guess you might be less than understanding about the attitude, but there's a good reason behind it. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with technical experience in maintaining comm lines that would disagree. There's a difference between trusting troubleshooting software, and seeing results with your eyes. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 15:24:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10509 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.webmaster.com (server.webmaster.com [204.156.143.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10504 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vrml ([204.156.143.153]) by server.webmaster.com (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11487) with SMTP id AAA221 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:19:57 -0700 X-Sender: beau@server.webmaster.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) Subject: Install Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:19:57 -0700 Message-ID: <19960711221956890.AAA221@vrml> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm booting up with the boot disk and the generic kernel recoginizes my floppy, hard, and SCSI CD-ROM drives, then everything goes blank except for a large white cursor in the lower left hand corner. Nothing happens next, it just sits there. ? -- Beau Giles From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 15:38:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA11073 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11068 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA07116; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:38:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:38:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: zounds@INNOSOFT.COM cc: "Mike K." , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 zounds@INNOSOFT.COM wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Mike K. wrote: > > > Is there a way to use my mouse outside of X. It would be nice to be able > > to cut/copy/paste in my shell. I know when I ran Linux, mouse was > > available from the shell. TIA > > > > > You werent running the shell when you were using the mouse in linux > What was I running then when I rebooted, logged in and was able to use my mouse? It wasn't X... ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 15:55:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12066 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitty.oester.com (kitty.oester.com [206.25.136.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12037; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fatcat.oester.com by kitty.oester.com (8.6.12/1.37) id WAA00414; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:35:17 GMT Message-ID: <31E58575.641C@oester.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:51:33 -0700 From: "G.R.Gircys" Reply-To: rich@oester.com Organization: Oesterreich & Assc. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill/Carolyn Pechter CC: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adaptec 154X support References: <199607112205.SAA27822@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bill/Carolyn Pechter wrote: > > It should work. I did have problems with my 1542B and put in a CF and > found that the problem was a SCSI-1 drive that thought it was SCSI-2. > I disabled disconnect and sync negotiation on the old HP troublemaker > under the CF and it's been fine. The 1542B worked in the system as well > with the correct jumpering. > i do have a disk jumper problem. this is an old fujitsu drive; had sync problems with it before on various os's. i disabled sync - much better, get's a lot further but still got panic eventually (CCB erros) - so i try this jumper to select scsi I instead of II - this did not work at all. can't find any jumper to control disconnect - will play some more and post results (if any). > I'll try to put a system together to test the 1542B this weekend. > don't bother - from other responses it's obvious freebsd does support old adaptec; from your response, it's pretty obvious to me that i have to play with disk config jumpers. thnx, rich From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 16:02:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA12581 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (uucp@emory.mathcs.emory.edu [199.76.28.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12575 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.22) via UUCP id AA03212 ; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:01:11 -0400 Received: (from jan@localhost) by bagend.atl.ga.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA16218; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:59:24 -0400 From: Jan Isley Message-Id: <199607112259.SAA16218@bagend.atl.ga.us> Subject: Re: adaptec 154X support To: rich@oester.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <31E564ED.5E13@oester.com> from "G.R.Gircys" at Jul 11, 96 01:32:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am typing this on a system that has been running 2.1 since a few days after its release. No hangs, no panics, running lots of mail and news 24 hours a day. Asus PVI-486AP4, DX2-66, 2 IDE disks, and a 1542B controlling a floppy, 2 SCSI disks and an Archive 2150s tape drive. G.R.Gircys wrote: > can someone confirm or deny the following. > > have a fine ole dx2/66 board with adaptec 1542B (older style with > jumpers) - worked flawlessly with bsdi for 2 years - now moving to > freebsd and find that during 2.1 install (usually while copying floppy > resident files) system either hangs or panics (virt screen 2 messages > about scsi bus locked). > > so i try a newer card - 1542 C/CF series - works great. > > does freebsd support the older adaptec 154X A/B? in my caseseems the > answer is no. > > thnx, > > rich From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 16:25:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13697 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwnexus.wa.com (nwnexus.wa.com [192.135.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13684 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com ([198.145.127.110]) by nwnexus.wa.com with SMTP id AA12708 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:25:42 -0700 Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ueV76-000QYFC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:25 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: Chuck Robey Cc: Gary Chrysler , Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:15:03 -0400." Reply-To: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:25:40 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote: > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). ...not to mention the [separate] power switch. Seems I power cycle modems to reset state occasionally... Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 16:34:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA14084 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA14075 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.eng.umd.edu (ginger.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.20]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01432; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by ginger.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08295; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:31:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@ginger.eng.umd.edu To: Scott Blachowicz cc: Gary Chrysler , Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Scott Blachowicz wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used > > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). > > ...not to mention the [separate] power switch. Seems I power cycle modems to > reset state occasionally... > > Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) I agree. I guess folks without any hardware background COULD be intimidated by the extra hardware, but with the level of help that's available from the FreeBSD lists, it kinda seems strange to me to get an internal modem. Maybe some folks want to save the 5-20 buck difference in price ... ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 16:57:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA15107 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA15098 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id JAA19839; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:57:28 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:57:28 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au Reply-To: Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au To: Scott Blachowicz cc: Chuck Robey , Gary Chrysler , Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Scott Blachowicz wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used > > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). > > ...not to mention the [separate] power switch. Seems I power cycle modems to > reset state occasionally... > I actually saw an ad in a catalog for a local store for an internal modem which had a panel which fitted in as a blank for a 3.5" drive bay. This had all the normal status lights AND a reset button. Pity the modem wasn't much good... All Internal modems should have something like this. Cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Infrastructure Services ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 16:57:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA15139 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA15094; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA20628; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:54:39 +1000 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:54:39 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607112354.JAA20628@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stefan@islandia.is Subject: Re: Problems with PPP and cyclades (fwd) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I'm trying to get ppp-iij using the tun device to work. I can connect to it >and everything seems fine until I hangup, the ppp daemon doesn't terminate >and just holds the device open. This happens only when using Cyclades 16-Ye >DB25-DB25 device with 16 modems connected (from dmesg: cy0 irq 5 maddr >0xd4000 msize 8192 on isa). But when using sio everything >works fine and ppp terminates. I'm using the same modem on both devices. >... >Currently I'm using sliplogin.dynamic with the Cy-16 with the external >connector box, and there are no trouble with that setup. But some of my >users want to use ppp to connect to my server. ppp polls DCD while slattach waits for a SIGHUP. ppp's method is much easier to get right for both the daemon and the driver, but there seems to be a problem with it. I use the following program to poll the modem state for all sio and cy lines. The DCD state should be `-DCD' when nothing is connected and change to '+DCD' when something is connected and raises DCD and change to `-DCD' on hangup. This works with a Cyclaydes 8Yo. Perhaps there is a timing problem in the ppp daemon. You should probably use kernel ppp if there is more that one ppp session at a time. --- comstate.c --- #include #include #include #include static void try(char *prefix); int main() { try("ttyd"); try("cuaa"); try("ttyc"); try("cuac"); return 0; } static void try(char *prefix) { int bit; char dev_name[32]; int dev_nr; int fd; int comstate; int stat; static char *statenames[] = { "LE", "DTR", "RTS", "ST", "SR", "CTS", "DCD", "RI", "DSR", }; for (dev_nr = 0; dev_nr < 32; ++dev_nr) { sprintf(dev_name, "/dev/%s%c", prefix, dev_nr < 10 ? '0' + dev_nr : 'a' + (dev_nr - 10)); fd = open(dev_name, O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK); if (fd >= 0) { comstate = 0xdeadbeef; stat = ioctl(fd, TIOCMGET, &comstate); printf("%s: ioctl returned %d:", dev_name, stat); for (bit = 0; bit < 9; ++bit) printf(" %c%s", comstate & (1 << bit) ? '+' : '-', statenames[bit]); printf("\n"); close(fd); } } } >stty -f /dev/ttyd0 >speed 9600 baud; >lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo >iflags: -icrnl -ixon -ixany -imaxbel -brkint >oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs >cflags: cs8 -parenb > ^^^^^^ No crtscts ? Is that normal ? It is the default. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 17:06:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15771 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15765 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id al07034; 12 Jul 96 1:06 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab22448; 11 Jul 96 18:10 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00939; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:50:32 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:50:32 GMT Message-Id: <199607110950.JAA00939@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: Brent.Hipp@msfc.nasa.gov CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (Brent.Hipp@msfc.nasa.gov) Subject: Re: floppies? anywhere? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've recently installed 2.0.5 from a floppy distribution of bin.aa-bin.cp. Yes, I've done this for several version of FreeBSD. Not much fun, is it? :-) > After the initial installation, several questions were asked about > configuring many aspects of the system, but each was looking for other > distributions (e.g. compat1x, etc). I've downloaded several : manpages, > games, compat1x and compat20. Now what? I've looked in the FAQ, but I > can't find how to access the floppy. I'd check the manpages but... Either # mount -t msdos /dev/fd0a /mnt [work with floppy as if it were a FreeBSD directory] # umount /mnt or install the mtools package, which will allow you to do things like mcopy a:*.* /some/where without having to mount and unmount the floppy each time. Once you've copied them onto your hard disk, do something like # cd /usr # cat /some/where/games.* | tar xzvf - (If you want advance warning of what you're about to get, which is always advisable, run it with "tvzf" instead of "xzvf" first). > Are there other distributions I will probably need? What about XF86312? > Is this XFree86 ver 3.1.2? I'll almost certainly need some of the packages > listed in that directory. How should I proceed to install them. Yes, it's ver 3.1.2 (to be precise, 3.1.2 with a security patch). Unlike the other dists, these have not been split up, so you can untar them directly:- # tar xzvf /some/where/else/X312bin.tgz > At this point I could start over with 2.1.0 I suppose, without much > headache, but downloading those 70+ bin.[a-c][a-z] files wasn't fun. Is > there a better approach to upgrade to 2.1.0? I don't know if my CD-ROM > will be recognized yet. I have downloaded the atapi.flp just in case. First of all, you may as well hold on for a week or so until 2.1.5 comes out. If you are able to do the installation while online, the simplest way is just to grab the boot floppy and let it pull down everything else it needs over FTP. If not, you can install over a network, or from a DOS partition on your hard disk (which can of course be re-formatted for FreeBSD when you've got everything working - no point wasting good disk space, is there? :-). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 17:09:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15892 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwnexus.wa.com (nwnexus.wa.com [192.135.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15880 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com ([198.145.127.110]) by nwnexus.wa.com with SMTP id AA24450 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:08:56 -0700 Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ueVn0-000QYeC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:08 PDT Message-Id: To: Chuck Robey , Gary Chrysler , Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:25:40 -0700." Reply-To: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:08:57 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Blachowicz wrote: > ...not to mention the [separate] power switch. Seems I power cycle modems to > reset state occasionally... ...and I occasionally want to hook my modem up to my Amiga or possibly to one of the SPARCs or whatever at work (i.e. external modems are portable). But they do consume an existing serial port, so sometimes you might need to add a little bit to the cost differential to accomodate an extra serial port card (to go with the slightly higher priced external modem). For anything I've wanted to do, the benefits of the external, portable box have outweighed any costs. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 17:10:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15984 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu (root@mail.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.139.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15979 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oink.cs.utexas.edu (miker@oink.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.138.84]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA15940 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:10:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Hung Michael Nguyen Received: by oink.cs.utexas.edu (8.7.1/Client-1.4) id TAA29102; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:10:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607120010.TAA29102@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Subject: Anyone get ksh93 to work? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:10:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I downloaded the ksh93 (part of a larger package, ast, whatever that is), and when I tried to run it, it core dumped. When I did a 'file ksh' it came up with ksh: BSD/386 demand paged (first page unmapped) pure ex I'm running 2.1 (release). Thanks, Mike. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 17:24:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16567 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16562 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab11075; 12 Jul 96 0:24 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab16596; 11 Jul 96 23:29 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA02116; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:37:41 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:37:41 GMT Message-Id: <199607111837.SAA02116@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: root@synwork.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (root@synwork.com) Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a way to use my mouse outside of X. It would be nice to be able > to cut/copy/paste in my shell. I know when I ran Linux, mouse was > available from the shell. TIA This is expected to be in version 2.2. (It's just been added to -current, but there's still quite a bit of work to be done on it). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 17:27:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16679 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16673 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab11878; 12 Jul 96 0:27 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa16622; 11 Jul 96 23:29 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA02108; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:31:27 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:31:27 GMT Message-Id: <199607111831.SAA02108@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk CC: paul@nation-net.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607101909.TAA02508@jraynard.demon.co.uk> (message from James Raynard on Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:09:47 GMT) Subject: Re: Forwarding file format Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> James Raynard writes: Without reading the question :-( > > Can you give me an example of the format of a forwarding file for ^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, I somehow convinced myself into thinking this was a question about how sendmail config files. > > sendmail and any other hints. I understand its location is specified in > > sendmail.cf ? > > A number of examples come with the sendmail source. If you didn't > install the source distribution, they've been separated out and put in > the ssmailcf.aa file, which can be extracted by doing, as root, > > # cd /usr/src > # tar xzvf /path/to/ssmailcf.aa -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 18:25:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA18785 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18780 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA22580 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:25:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CERT FreeBSD ppp Advisory--Distribution? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk CERT has distributed an advisory on a security problem with user ppp, information provided by FreeBSD, Inc. Although I'm subscribed to the USENET group comp.security.announce (and it's there), I actually heard about it from my system administrator. I would think such information ought to be available rather widely to people subscribed to various freebsd mailing lists, not just security, and should be on the freebsd home page as well. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 18:26:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA18832 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itchy.serv.net (itchy.serv.net [199.201.191.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18815 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sex.cyberswinger.com ([206.129.79.14]) by itchy.serv.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19602 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:25:58 -0700 Message-ID: <31E5A9C0.712B@cyberswinger.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:24 -0700 From: marc Organization: VCI X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ISIS-freeWAIS installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been having problems getting the clients to work after compiling free-WAIS-0.5 (not able to create socket connection when using waisq, no response from waisserver), and am looking for any suggestions/tips on what might have caused this. The waisq/waisserver clients did work at first, but the sockets problem arrived and I have had no luck since. I just downloaded the ISIS-freeWAIS-0.5-FreeBSD package but notice that there are no Makefiles for FreeBSD (v 2.1). Same problem for free-WAIS-0.5 also. What Makefile should I use? Is bsdi safe? Any suggestions would be super-duper. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 18:26:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA18871 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nico.aarnet.edu.au (nico.aarnet.edu.au [139.130.204.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18866 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nico.telstra.net (nico.aarnet.edu.au [139.130.204.16]) by nico.aarnet.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA29107 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:23:40 +1000 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:23:39 +1000 (EST) From: Wayne Farmer To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Memory Process Limit when running /bin/sh Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have named running from /etc/sysconfig and hence /etc/rc on boot. It is running as a caching named and grows with time. But when it hits 64Mb, the following occurs : ... named[68]: savedata: malloc: Cannot allocate memory - ABORT ... /kernel: pid 68: named: uid 0: exited on signal 6 ... /kernel: uid 0 on /: file system full A previous answer suggested this was a shell limit and suggested the ulimit command in sh - I looked but did not find so I ran named again using tcsh with increased memory limits and it is now running at 90Mb no problems. Does /bin/sh have a built-in limit ? Can it be changed ? What is the suggestion in this type of case ? I have read where /bin/sh is not true Bourne. Thanks Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 18:26:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA18890 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from serv1.rof.net (root@serv1.rof.net [206.168.17.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18884 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 95server (ptp9.rof.net [206.168.17.9]) by serv1.rof.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17807 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <31E59956.3211@comsys.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:16:22 -0500 From: Alex Huppenthal Reply-To: alex@comsys.com Organization: Communication Systems Research Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DHCP Lease on Ethernet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a DHCP server for FreeBSD that will provide a IPCP lease to a hosts on an Ethernet? Can PPP be config'd to do this? I must admit it's been a few months since I read the docs, but my recollection is that there is no support for Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol over Ethernet. We have a client who has 500 hosts that are on and off the net all day. There is no reason to fix IP addresses for each workstation, they should simply get one from the free pool on the server. Any thoughts on this subject? -Alex From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 18:40:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19585 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iectech.com (netgate.iectech.com [198.136.226.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19580; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by netgate.iectech.com id <6173>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:38:59 -0400 From: Chris Peltier To: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org'" , "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: SMDS hardware/software for FreeBSD Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:29:52 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Encoding: 16 TEXT Message-Id: <96Jul11.173859edt.6173@netgate.iectech.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody know of a board and software that will allow A FreeBSD system to act as a router connected to an SMDs cloud. In particular the T1 "Dixie" (1.536mb) version of SMDS. Any info on 56Kbs and 4Mbit+ would be interesting. Sincerely, Chris Peltier * email: CPELTIER@IECTECH.COM * voice: 215-257-4917 * FAX: 215-257-4916 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 18:44:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19849 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu (root@mail.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.139.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19844 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oink.cs.utexas.edu (miker@oink.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.138.84]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA17820 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:44:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Hung Michael Nguyen Received: by oink.cs.utexas.edu (8.7.1/Client-1.4) id UAA29667; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:44:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607120144.UAA29667@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Subject: Is Netscape 3.0b5a still unable to do Java? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:44:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just downloaded said netscape and it has the same error as 3.0b4: JavaScript Error: Couldn't create AppletClassLoader for JavaScript Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 18:57:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20412 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commerce.imagenet.on.ca (commerce.imagenet.on.ca [207.107.36.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20404; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commerce.imagenet.on.ca (commerce.imagenet.on.ca [207.107.36.10]) by commerce.imagenet.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA10729; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:00:34 -0400 Message-ID: <31E5B1C1.695678E2@imagenet.on.ca> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:00:33 -0400 From: Stephen Couchman Organization: ImageNet Web Design Services Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Jaz drive questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have installed a Jaz drive as sd1 (SCSI id #2). I am using an Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI host adapter. FreeBSD does not seem to recognize the drive and produces the following messages: (ahc0:2:0): "iomega jaz 1GB G.60" type 0 removable SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:2:0): Direct-Access sd1(ahc0:2:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry 1021MB (2091050 512 byte sectors) I would like to use this Jaz drive as a second hard disk to backup the contents of my bootable (SCSI) disk. I tried installing FreeBSD 2.1 on the Jaz drive by choosing sd1 as the destination. Unfortunately, the install program started re-installing sd0! :-(( How can I determine the correct geometry for the drive? How do I setup that geometry so that FreeBSD recognizes the drive? How can I partition the drive and setup the filesystems? I have looked at disklabel and newfs, and would appreciate a short example. I would really appreciate ANY advice that you can give. Thanks -- Stephen ______________________________________________________________________ Stephen.Couchman@imagenet.on.ca http://www.imagenet.on.ca/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 19:07:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA20812 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.telebit.com (webster.telebit.com [143.191.3.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA20802 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (sharps.chelmsford.telebit.com) by webster.telebit.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Telebit.COM-Sendmail-V4.3) id AA19940 to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Jul 96 22:06:43 EDT Received: from smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com by Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1-pmm-2) id AA07703; Thu, 11 Jul 96 22:06:43 EDT Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA837148588; Thu, 11 Jul 96 22:02:36 EST Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 22:02:36 EST From: "Nathan Melhorn" Message-Id: <9606118371.AA837148588@smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD help) Subject: Adding devices to boot.flp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was fairly successful adding parallel port IoMega ZipDrive support to my kernel (access is OK, initial probing takes >1 minute). Now I'd like to put a FreeBSD distribution on a ZipDisk so I can install it at home (which only has a 28.8 modem). How would I get the install floppy so it could read the ZipDisk? I assume that means "making" a boot disk. Are there simpler/better ways? The driver (ppa3.c) is not part of un/official FreeBSD - I pulled it from someone's web page (and could send it or the page coordinates to whoever cares). -thanks, Nate Melhorn (n_melhor@chelmsford.telebit.com). From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 19:28:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21858 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from io.org (io.org [198.133.36.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21850 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 486-hot-rod.net4.io.org (486-hot-rod.net4.io.org [199.166.239.214]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA05903 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:28:06 -0400 Message-ID: <31E5B838.1177@io.org> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:28:08 -0400 From: Jim Amy Organization: Personal X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD CD Installation X-URL: http://www.ca.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I'm a recent purchaser of the FreeBSD 2.1 from Walnut Creek CD-ROM. It turns out that installing FreeBSD is far more difficult and involved than I had anticipated. I have a few questions I hope you can help me with. 1. On page 26 of the Running FreeBSD manual it says I need to jumper my CD-ROM as a slave device. My CD is the only device on my secondary IDE (ATAPI) interface and when I jumper it as a slave device the CD-ROM drivers will not accept a slave without a master. In the process my CD-ROM drivers defaulted back to real device drivers and I had to reload Windows 95 to get the CD-ROM as well as my IDE Windows 95 drivers back. Is it necessary to jumper the CD as a slave device and if so, how can I do that without also having a master? 2. The other issue I did not realize when I ordered FreeBSD is the need to load it in a partition within the first 500 MB of disk space (or 1024 cylinders). Is this always the case with EIDE drives? I am using a Western Digital AC31200 1.2MB HD. Your advice is greatly appreciated. Jim jimamy@io.org -- ************************************************************************* Jim Amy jimamy@io.org To know life's purpose, http://www.io.org/~jimamy/ We must know life's Creator! Fax: (905) 640-2561 ************************************************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 19:45:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA23313 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com (dialup6.gaffaneys.com [134.129.252.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23300 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00392; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:45:47 -0500 (CDT) To: zounds@INNOSOFT.COM Cc: "Mike K." , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X References: From: Zach Heilig Date: 11 Jul 1996 21:45:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: zounds@INNOSOFT.COM's message of Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87ivbuur3a.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk zounds@INNOSOFT.COM writes: > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Mike K. wrote: > > Is there a way to use my mouse outside of X. It would be nice to be able > > to cut/copy/paste in my shell. I know when I ran Linux, mouse was > > available from the shell. TIA > You werent running the shell when you were using the mouse in linux Actually, from what I saw from my friends screen (he seems to like Linux..), the functionality is in the console driver. The button mappings were the same as you'd expect under X. I noticed in a different reply that this is supposed to go into 2.2. Will the mouse give xterm-like events, so my emacs menu's will work :-) or would that be impossible? (I am currently unable to run X, it has something to do with disk space, and non-VGA display hardware).. -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited commercial email is unwelcome. My policy is avoid dealing with companies that send out such mailings. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 19:59:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA24127 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phydeaux.mrdata.com (phydeaux.mrdata.com [206.224.70.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24112 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from davros.mrdata.com (davros [206.224.70.135]) by phydeaux.mrdata.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00187 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:57:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960712025915.0071cbc0@mail.mrdata.com> X-Sender: blakef@mail.mrdata.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:59:15 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Blake Freeburg Subject: Dial-up configuration help... Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am about to run out of straws. I am trying to set up dial-up operations on the way to slip/ppp later (need to be able to dial up when out of the country). Anyways, I have a FreeBSD 2.1 machine (P90/32MB RAM) and have gotten to the point where I can get it to connect, and present me with the login, but then do nothing. It looks something like this: atdt 918-0420 CONNECT 28800/ARQ Mr. Data Consulting Do not log in if you do not have a password FreeBSD (phydeaux) (ttyd0) login: blakef Password: And then will timeout after 300 seconds. It looks like login is just hanging there: phydeaux# ps -ax PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 0 ?? DLs 0:00.00 (swapper) 1 ?? Is 0:00.04 /sbin/init -- 2 ?? DL 0:00.00 (pagedaemon) 3 ?? DL 0:00.00 (vmdaemon) 4 ?? DL 0:00.08 (update) 22 ?? Is 0:00.01 adjkerntz -i 48 ?? Is 0:00.03 routed -q 65 ?? Ss 0:00.22 syslogd 68 ?? Is 0:00.03 named -b /etc/namedb/named.boot 73 ?? Is 0:00.01 portmap 84 ?? Is 0:00.46 inetd 95 ?? Is 0:00.06 cron 98 ?? Is 0:00.05 lpd 101 ?? Is 0:00.02 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) 143 ?? Ss 0:00.14 /stuff/www/httpd -f /stuff/www/httpd.conf 146 ?? I 0:00.00 /stuff/www/httpd -f /stuff/www/httpd.conf 147 ?? I 0:00.00 /stuff/www/httpd -f /stuff/www/httpd.conf 148 ?? I 0:00.01 /stuff/www/httpd -f /stuff/www/httpd.conf 149 ?? I 0:00.01 /stuff/www/httpd -f /stuff/www/httpd.conf 150 ?? I 0:00.00 /stuff/www/httpd -f /stuff/www/httpd.conf 159 ?? I 0:00.02 /usr/libexec/getty bidir.115200-hf ttyd1 161 ?? S 0:00.24 telnetd 165 p0 Is 0:00.15 -csh (csh) 169 p0 S 0:00.37 -su (csh) 185 p0 R+ 0:00.02 ps -ax 155 v0 Is+ 0:00.03 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0 156 v1 Is+ 0:00.03 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 157 v2 Is+ 0:00.04 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 175 d0 I; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:02:19 -0700 (PDT) From: lostone@edenbbs.com Received: from edenbbs.com (edenbbs.com [199.190.73.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA11130 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:02:17 -0700 Received: from MHS by .edenbbs.com with MHS id $T101564 ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:02:34 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:02:28 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: login To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Read the FAQ,visited the web page still can't login. What have I forgoten? Sorry for the dumb question but I remain lost. ______________________________________________________________________________ Sent from Eden BBS - 714-548-1900 - Telnet: edenbbs.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 20:15:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24843 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24835 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa28233; 12 Jul 96 4:14 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa16702; 11 Jul 96 23:30 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA05289; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:35:22 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:35:22 GMT Message-Id: <199607112035.UAA05289@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: craigh@bugsoft.com CC: matt@bdd.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (craigh@bugsoft.com) Subject: Re: kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >drive to boot from. If you get bored typing hd(1,a)/kernel every time > >you boot, here's how to change them so it happens automatically:- > > > ># cd /sys/i386/boot/biosboot > ># vi boot.c > >part = 0; > >unit = 1; > >maj = 1; > ># make > ># disklabel -B -b boot1 -s boot2 wd0 > > > Hmmm - I've been trying to figure out a way to do exactly this. I have one > IDE drive (all DOS) and one SCSI drive (all FreeBSD) and I'm getting tired > of typing "hd(1,a)/kernel" at the booteasy prompt. I tried the steps > outlined above but there were several problems. The first problem is I OK, I snipped this out of a posting I saw on Usenet, but didn't get round to trying it before my SCSI disk expired :-( > think you forgot to run "make install" after running make (to copy the new > boot1 and boot2 files to /usr/mdec/). The second problem is that when I As I understand the man page, this should be OK as the disklabel command writes boot1 and boot2 to the bootstrap. (I agree though that it's probably better to have /usr/mdec reflect the reality of what's on the bootstrap). > attempt to run the disklabel command exactly as listed above, I get an > error message "disklabel: /dev/rwd0c: Undefined error: 0". Hmm. According to the code, this message only occurs if disklabel was unable to open the disk as a raw device, or if it could not read the boot area. Presumably you did this as root, and wd0 was not mounted anywhere at the time? > Should I be > specifying a different disk (ie. sd0) in place of wd0? Help!!! IDE drives are detected before SCSI drives by the BIOS, so the bootstrap code has to be on wd0. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 20:16:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24931 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24922 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA29434; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E5C356.745E@ime.net> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:15:34 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert CC: martin.loeffler@utoronto.ca, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: <199607112057.NAA29605@phaeton.artisoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Failure modes: > > > > > > 1) Internal modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > > > > Thats a matter of opinion Terry. > > I feel: > > External modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > > Or the hardware they require. > > Well, don't buy bad internal modems. 8-|. > > The problem is that you can't issue a blanket rule that way when > manufacturers don't put "bad modem" on the outside of the box, > since "the dealer told me it was a good modem, and you didn't > give me a list of good modems, so I bought it". > Huh, What? You get what you buy, Internal or External! Buy from K-Mart you deserve what you get. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 20:22:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25202 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25197 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03306; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:22:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: James Raynard cc: craigh@bugsoft.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? In-Reply-To: <199607112035.UAA05289@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > attempt to run the disklabel command exactly as listed above, I get an > > error message "disklabel: /dev/rwd0c: Undefined error: 0". > > Hmm. According to the code, this message only occurs if disklabel was > unable to open the disk as a raw device, or if it could not read the > boot area. > > Presumably you did this as root, and wd0 was not mounted anywhere at > the time? For the record, I too have been experiencing the same error. wd0 isn't mounted anywhere, and I am doing this as root. -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 20:39:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA26116 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snail.slow.net (root@snail.slow.net [204.50.80.175]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26105 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lancelot@localhost) by snail.slow.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01831; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:40:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Sire Lancelot du Lac To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Need help setting Home LAN routing right. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi There! I have a 10baseT LAN at home, and a ppp uplink to the Internet on a unix box which has 2 interfaces: tun0 for the ppp and ed0 for the ethernet. I have to send RIP packets to the cisco router at the other end of the PPP to broadcast the netblock (207.107.44.0/27) my ISP assigned for my LAN. This is all on a FreeBSD (2.2-SNAP-960612) box running either routed or gated (I can use either). I've been working on this problem for a couple of days now, so any help is much appreciated. my ppp address is 204.50.80.175 on a /32 network. the ISP's cisco varies it's IP from connect to connect. I did the ipforwarding thingie in sysctl :) Please respond by email. Thanks in advance! email: lancelot@snail.slow.net -- Christian Doucet work : +1 514 728 1618 Freelance "Sysadmin-Programmer-UNIX-Internet" guru! pager: +1 514 897 8070 Y'a rien de plus troublant qu'un trou noir. -- Sol (Marc Favreau) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 20:41:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA26315 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitty.oester.com (kitty.oester.com [206.25.136.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26308; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fatcat.oester.com by kitty.oester.com (8.6.12/1.37) id DAA00832; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:21:31 GMT Message-ID: <31E5C885.1175@oester.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:37:41 -0700 From: "G.R.Gircys" Reply-To: rich@oester.com Organization: Oesterreich & Assc. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill/Carolyn Pechter CC: hackers@freebsd.com, questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: adaptec 154X support (A/B version) References: <199607112205.SAA27822@shell.monmouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bill/Carolyn Pechter wrote: > It should work. I did have problems with my 1542B and put in a CF and > found that the problem was a SCSI-1 drive that thought it was SCSI-2. > I disabled disconnect and sync negotiation on the old HP troublemaker > under the CF and it's been fine. The 1542B worked in the system as well > with the correct jumpering. > i have played with a few drive jumpers and am pretty sure this is a drive problem; not a generic 154X A/B support issue. the drive is an old fujitsu 640mb - i've had similar problems with other os's; found my own notes taped to bottom telling me which os i had to disable sync. though install now actually sometimes gets to start network download, still panics with a ECB invalid segment list error. > I'll try to put a system together to test the 1542B this weekend. > > Bill > no need - from other responses obvious A/B generally do work. thnx, rich From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 21:06:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27482 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skeg.cst.com.au (skeg.cst.com.au [203.61.252.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA27472 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bala@localhost) by skeg.cst.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.11) id OAA22708 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:05:55 +1000 From: Bala Periasamy Message-Id: <199607120405.OAA22708@skeg.cst.com.au> Subject: Mounting NCPFS using NFS To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:05:55 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have got a linux machine which has mounted novell netware 3.12 on to the file system. IT is mounted as type ncpfs on to it. I am exporting this mount point to FreeBSD. But when I try to do a mount of this mount from linux. It gets a permission denied. I have got in my exports file on linux /dir (ro,insecure) For me it looks like, even though I do a NFS export of the NCPFS filesystem, the NFS server on my linux box denies permission. Can someone shine some light on this problem??@$@# thanx bala From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 21:06:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27553 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27547 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA02449; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E5CF38.14BD@ime.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:06:16 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey CC: Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Failure modes: > > > > > > 1) Internal modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > > > > > > > Thats a matter of opinion Terry. > > I feel: > > External modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > > Or the hardware they require. > > Gary, those of us that know how to use breakout boxes, and have dealt > with serial commercially, usually react violently against internal > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). If you > don't know how to use them, or aren't used to these tools, I guess you > might be less than understanding about the attitude, but there's a good > reason behind it. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with technical > experience in maintaining comm lines that would disagree. > Interesting, "Those of us" Implies my exclusion. You sure seem to know an awefull lot about something you know nothing about! > There's a difference between trusting troubleshooting software, and > seeing results with your eyes. Neither one is any good if you don't know how to use them. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 21:16:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28407 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28401 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA02900; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E5D19C.2EB0@ime.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:16:28 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scott@statsci.com CC: Chuck Robey , Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Blachowicz wrote: > > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used > > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). > > ...not to mention the [separate] power switch. Seems I power cycle modems to > reset state occasionally... > I have to admit, That is a PRO for Multiple modem systems! Not for the stand alone typical everyday user! But then again who would use internals for multiple modem systems! Other then the technical players playing! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 21:21:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28663 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28658 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from channel.eng.umd.edu (channel.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.186]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03759; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by channel.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA21062; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:18:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@channel.eng.umd.edu To: Gary Chrysler cc: Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup In-Reply-To: <31E5CF38.14BD@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > Gary, those of us that know how to use breakout boxes, and have dealt > > with serial commercially, usually react violently against internal > > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used > > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). If you > > don't know how to use them, or aren't used to these tools, I guess you > > might be less than understanding about the attitude, but there's a good > > reason behind it. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with technical > > experience in maintaining comm lines that would disagree. > > > > Interesting, "Those of us" Implies my exclusion. > > You sure seem to know an awefull lot about something you know > nothing about! I don't understand why you are getting impolite about it. I didn't exclude you, nor insult you. I've worked in communications, either voice or data, for years, so I think I probably know _something_ about it. > > There's a difference between trusting troubleshooting software, and > > seeing results with your eyes. > > Neither one is any good if you don't know how to use them. Well, I sure can't disagree with that. I was explaining why many folks have a severe allergy towards internal modems. Do you disagree with that? I guess I was suggesting that if you did know how to use the tools, then using internal modems denied them to you. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 21:31:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29057 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29050 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA03540; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E5D51E.4C58@ime.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:31:26 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey CC: Scott Blachowicz , Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Scott Blachowicz wrote: > > > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used > > > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). > > > > ...not to mention the [separate] power switch. Seems I power cycle modems to > > reset state occasionally... > > > > Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) > > I agree. I guess folks without any hardware background COULD be > intimidated by the extra hardware, but with the level of help that's > available from the FreeBSD lists, it kinda seems strange to me to get an > internal modem. Maybe some folks want to save the 5-20 buck difference > in price ... > 5-20 buck difference for the Modem! Plus the cost of a good SIO board and possiably cable. Or maybe not deal with the headaches of externals! Power supplys, Data cables, Serial ports, desk space. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 21:40:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29356 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29325 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA03895; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E5D70C.5ACA@ime.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:39:40 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scott@statsci.com CC: Chuck Robey , Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Blachowicz wrote: > > Scott Blachowicz wrote: > > > ...not to mention the [separate] power switch. Seems I power cycle modems to > > reset state occasionally... > > ...and I occasionally want to hook my modem up to my Amiga or possibly to one > of the SPARCs or whatever at work (i.e. external modems are portable). But they > do consume an existing serial port, so sometimes you might need to add a little > bit to the cost differential to accomodate an extra serial port card (to go > with the slightly higher priced external modem). For anything I've wanted to do, > the benefits of the external, portable box have outweighed any costs. > Not everyone needs portabability, Most don't! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 21:42:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29491 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29485 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id OAA26101; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:42:20 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:42:20 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au Reply-To: Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au To: Hung Michael Nguyen cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is Netscape 3.0b5a still unable to do Java? In-Reply-To: <199607120144.UAA29667@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Hung Michael Nguyen wrote: > Hi, > > I just downloaded said netscape and it has the same error as 3.0b4: > > JavaScript Error: Couldn't create AppletClassLoader for JavaScript > > Thanks, > Mike > > same problem here, and I used the netscape3 port to install it... Cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Infrastructure Services ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 22:06:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00567 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00532 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA04822; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E5DCEF.3B64@ime.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:04:47 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Amy CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD CD Installation References: <31E5B838.1177@io.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Amy wrote: > > Greetings, > > I'm a recent purchaser of the FreeBSD 2.1 from Walnut Creek CD-ROM. It > turns out that installing FreeBSD is far more difficult and involved > than I had anticipated. I have a few questions I hope you can help me > with. > > 1. On page 26 of the Running FreeBSD manual it says I need to jumper my > CD-ROM as a slave device. My CD is the only device on my secondary IDE > (ATAPI) interface and when I jumper it as a slave device the CD-ROM > drivers will not accept a slave without a master. In the process my > CD-ROM drivers defaulted back to real device drivers and I had to reload > Windows 95 to get the CD-ROM as well as my IDE Windows 95 drivers back. > Is it necessary to jumper the CD as a slave device and if so, > how can I do that without also having a master? > I *belive* That you need to put the cd as slave on your primary controller. I *belive* this is only true if you don't have a slave on your primary controller. I don't use ATAPI drives. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong! These answers should also be in the archives for they have been asked and answered hundreds of times! > 2. The other issue I did not realize when I ordered FreeBSD is the need > to load it in a partition within the first 500 MB of disk space (or 1024 > cylinders). Is this always the case with EIDE drives? I am using a > Western Digital AC31200 1.2MB HD. > Yes, This is a PC limitation not a FreeBSD limitation. This does only apply to the _root_ ("/") partition though! (The boot partition) Create a small root so the whole thing is below 1024, Then create the rest above! I don't personally deal with dual booting, Somebody that does will more then likly reply. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 22:16:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01107 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rolta.com (firewall-user@gatekeeper.rolta.com [165.113.135.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA01098 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rolta.com; id AAA18112; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:01:34 -0500 Received: from mailserver.rolta.com(204.177.195.25) by gatekeeper.rolta.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma015388; Thu, 11 Jul 96 23:26:38 -0500 Received: (from vrushal@localhost) by mailserver.rolta.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA01929 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:21:41 GMT From: Vrushal Dongre Message-Id: <199607121021.KAA01929@mailserver.rolta.com> Subject: unsubscribe To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:21:16 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe vdongre@rolta.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vrushal Dongre Email : vrushal@rolta.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 22:42:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA02634 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02627 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.kconline.com (ns.kconline.com [207.51.167.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA11298 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:42:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (jriffle@localhost) by ns.kconline.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00469 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:37:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:37:28 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Riffle To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: syslogd to a specific users on a remote host Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know if you can make syslogd log its information to a specific user on a different host? I have read the syslog.conf man page and have successfully had one machine log its information to another machine's syslog. What I am wanting to do with that, is have all the information logged from that machine go to a specfic user on the remote machine. Basically, it boils down to this: Can syslogd differentate between the messages from the local machine and those from a different machine, and send them to the appropriate users & log files? Thanks, Jim Riffle From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 22:58:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA04103 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA04096 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA06371; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E5E93C.268F@ime.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:57:16 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey CC: Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > > Gary, those of us that know how to use breakout boxes, and have dealt > > > with serial commercially, usually react violently against internal > > > modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used > > > troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). If you > > > don't know how to use them, or aren't used to these tools, I guess you > > > might be less than understanding about the attitude, but there's a good > > > reason behind it. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with technical > > > experience in maintaining comm lines that would disagree. > > > > > > > Interesting, "Those of us" Implies my exclusion. > > > > You sure seem to know an awefull lot about something you know > > nothing about! > > I don't understand why you are getting impolite about it. I didn't exclude > you, nor insult you. I've worked in communications, either voice or > data, for years, so I think I probably know _something_ about it. > Welp, I took the "Those of us" as an exclusion of me! (As if you were stating I didn't know about or use BO) And the "knowing about nothing" part was you NOT knowing ANYTHING about me or what I know! Not what *you* may or may not know about communications! I don't know you, what you do or know and would never make an assumption like that! I take people at thier word untill they prove otherwise! If I did in fact take it wrong, I am very very sorry! I was trying _NOT_ to be impolite! > > > There's a difference between trusting troubleshooting software, and > > > seeing results with your eyes. > > > > Neither one is any good if you don't know how to use them. > > Well, I sure can't disagree with that. I was explaining why many folks > have a severe allergy towards internal modems. Do you disagree with that? > O yes, I do agree that alot of people have thier opinions! Mine is Internal! Thats why I made the comment to Terry! I wish very much that I had left in a part that I started and removed before sending! It was something like: Thats a matter of opinion Terry. Depends on the usage! For the general user an External is a pain in the ***. They both have thier uses though. > I guess I was suggesting that if you did know how to use the tools, then > using internal modems denied them to you. > Yes, They sure do, But there is a whole other group of tools! IMHO Simpler tools at that! Sure I agree once you are used to something it's tough to change! I'm sitting here trying very hard to break such a habbit! 3 _finger_typing_! :( -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 23:18:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06031 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA06022 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA00740; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:12:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607120612.XAA00740@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup To: tcg@ime.net Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:12:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, martin.loeffler@utoronto.ca, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E5C356.745E@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 11, 96 11:15:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Well, don't buy bad internal modems. 8-|. > > > > The problem is that you can't issue a blanket rule that way when > > manufacturers don't put "bad modem" on the outside of the box, > > since "the dealer told me it was a good modem, and you didn't > > give me a list of good modems, so I bought it". > > > > Huh, What? > > You get what you buy, Internal or External! > Buy from K-Mart you deserve what you get. Gary: Can you name an internal modem which does not float open collector the RTS between the modem UART and the modem chip? That can be powercycled without power-cycling the machine? That doesn't use a Rockewll chipset, since some of the people I talk to has US Robotics 14.4 Courier/Faxmodems with the firmware bug? That itself is not a US Robotics Courier because some of the people I talk to have Rockwell chipsets? That doesn't trigger the delay requirements in the SIO driver comments because it emulates a UART instead of having one? That has a FIFO'ed UART? That if it gets fried, can't fry my machine, because like my serial ports, it includes optoisolators? That internally does not float DTR open collector so it won't answer the phone unless I set the DTR flag? And that, by default, following POST, can be programmmed to have a default DTR flag unset, so that the modem will not answer the phone until my system is up so that the number will roll over like its supposed to in case of system failure? It's possible to make a pretty long list of external modems which do this, mostly because RS232C interfaceing and serial PORT post conditions are well known. Fake RS232C "UART->modem" internal wiring is more suspect. A can only think of one modem that meets these requirements, and I can tell you, they want my left testicle for it ($445). When things need to work, they *need* to *work*. It's possible to get working internal modems; as a general rule of thumb, however, external beats internal for quality, if only because RS232C does not allow pins 4,5,6,8,and 20 to float open collector; they are defined as being pulled down in the absence of a definite state setting. The POST leaving the DTR off in any decent BIOS without a specific UART setting to enable it is just icing on the cake. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 23:47:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA08120 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilms.nla.gov.au (ilms.nla.gov.au [192.102.239.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08115 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gadget.nla.gov.au (cmakin@gadget.nla.gov.au [192.102.239.85]) by ilms.nla.gov.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA108096 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:43:44 +1000 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:47:17 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions-digest V1 #1086 In-Reply-To: <199607120440.VAA29401@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org wrote: > From: Hung Michael Nguyen > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:44:32 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: Is Netscape 3.0b5a still unable to do Java? > I just downloaded said netscape and it has the same error as 3.0b4: > JavaScript Error: Couldn't create AppletClassLoader for JavaScript I had this error also until I changed the dithering option in the "options""general preferences""images" to "auto". I also use the followint script to launch netscape; ------------- Cut Here ----------- #!/bin/sh - # # @(#)daily 5.12 (Berkeley) 5/24/91 # PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin export XNLSPATH=/usr/local/atlas/nls export XKEYSYMDB=/usr/local/atlas/XKeysymDB unset CLASSPATH /usr/local/atlas/netscape $1 $2 $3 $4 $5 $6 $7 $8 $9 unset XNLSPATH unset XKEYSYMDB ----------- Cut Here ----------- I run both Netscape 2.02 and 3.0b5a with virtually the same script (above). The netscape archive is de-archived into /usr/local/atlas. Java works fine. Carl. -- Carl Makin (VK1KCM) C.Makin@nla.gov.au 'Work +61 6 262 1576' "Speaking for myself only!" 'If you want to make your spouse pay attention to what you say... Talk in your sleep!' From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 23:48:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA08161 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA08156 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA05000; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:44:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:44:27 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607120644.AAA05000@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Terry Lambert Cc: tcg@ime.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup In-Reply-To: <199607120612.XAA00740@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <31E5C356.745E@ime.net> <199607120612.XAA00740@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That if it gets fried, can't fry my machine, because like my serial > ports, it includes optoisolators? Ahh, but sometimes external modems can cause more problems thatn internal ones if lighting strikes close enough to cause a current flow in the serial cable. A friend of mine took out the UART (?) in his Amiga every 6 months for 3 years because lightning kept causing a current flow in his serial line due to magnetics. We couldn't for the life of us figure out why for the longest time until he unwrapped the cable to lay out flat (the excess was wound into a coil) and he didn't have any problems since. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 00:36:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA10650 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10641 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA08694; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E6004E.5873@ime.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:35:42 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert CC: martin.loeffler@utoronto.ca, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: <199607120612.XAA00740@phaeton.artisoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Well, don't buy bad internal modems. 8-|. > > > > > > The problem is that you can't issue a blanket rule that way when > > > manufacturers don't put "bad modem" on the outside of the box, > > > since "the dealer told me it was a good modem, and you didn't > > > give me a list of good modems, so I bought it". > > > > > > > Huh, What? > > > > You get what you buy, Internal or External! > > Buy from K-Mart you deserve what you get. > > Gary: > > Can you name an internal modem which does not float open collector the > RTS between the modem UART and the modem chip? > Not off the top of my head, Don't care either. > That can be powercycled without power-cycling the machine? Nope. Not something I'm concerned about. Unless in a multi-modem enviorment, Then I would be using externals! I still prefer internal! > That doesn't use a Rockewll chipset, since some of the people I > talk to has US Robotics 14.4 Courier/Faxmodems with the firmware > bug? I use only Rockwell chipsets. > That itself is not a US Robotics Courier because some of the > people I talk to have Rockwell chipsets? I'm a USR fan. > That doesn't trigger the delay requirements in the SIO driver > comments because it emulates a UART instead of having one? > > That has a FIFO'ed UART? If it hasn't a REAL FIFO'ed UART I wouldn't buy it, And I sure wouldn't push it off on a customer. > That if it gets fried, can't fry my machine, because like my serial > ports, it includes optoisolators? Yup, Many. Even cheap K-Mart specials have optoisolators. But I agree, Some don't! I wouldn't buy them And I sure wouldn't sell it to one of my customers! > That internally does not float DTR open collector so it won't > answer the phone unless I set the DTR flag? Goes with the next question. > And that, by default, following POST, can be programmmed to have > a default DTR flag unset, so that the modem will not answer the > phone until my system is up so that the number will roll over > like its supposed to in case of system failure? Yup. > It's possible to make a pretty long list of external modems > which do this, mostly because RS232C interfaceing and serial > PORT post conditions are well known. Fake RS232C "UART->modem" > internal wiring is more suspect. > > A can only think of one modem that meets these requirements, > and I can tell you, they want my left testicle for it ($445). I don't consider that a left testicle. USR Couriers cost ~that! (Retail) > When things need to work, they *need* to *work*. Amen! > It's possible to get working internal modems; as a general rule > of thumb, however, external beats internal for quality, if only > because RS232C does not allow pins 4,5,6,8,and 20 to float open > collector; they are defined as being pulled down in the absence > of a definite state setting. The POST leaving the DTR off in > any decent BIOS without a specific UART setting to enable it is > just icing on the cake. > I don't understand what all this has to do with my prefrence of Internal over External. I didn't tell you to run Internal! Thats your choice! As it is mine to prefer Internal! I don't know how such a lame comment from me can brew into such a worthless debate! Lets discuss something where we all can learn something or improve FreeBSD and stop this useless exchange/waste of our time! I have a thousand questions about FreeBSD that I would love to get answered instead of wasting my time debating if a Internal or External modem is better! It all depends on the usage, Level of compentance of the user! I have many customers that I would refuse to sell an external item to for the sole reason that I know they would be calling me telling me it is broke because they either didn't turn it on or the power cord came unplugged! (From the back of the device) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 00:46:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA11187 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA10897 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA12367 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:40:15 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0uecpj-00021UC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 09:40 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA074817118; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:38:38 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199607120738.AA074817118@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X To: flaq@synwork.com (Mike K.) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:38:38 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: zounds@INNOSOFT.COM, root@synwork.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mike K." at Jul 11, 96 05:38:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Mike K. wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 zounds@INNOSOFT.COM wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Mike K. wrote: > > > > > Is there a way to use my mouse outside of X. It would be nice to be able > > > to cut/copy/paste in my shell. I know when I ran Linux, mouse was > > > available from the shell. TIA > > > > > > > > You werent running the shell when you were using the mouse in linux > > > > What was I running then when I rebooted, logged in and was able to use my > mouse? It wasn't X... Well, you were also running the Linux gpm daemon which needs support from the console. FreeBSD does not offer such support (even though Soeren has been implementing something similar in syscons IIRC.) /Marino > > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ > Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety > http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV > mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control > Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 01:19:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA13322 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freelove.tu-graz.ac.at (freelove.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.193.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA13317 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (erewan@localhost) by freelove.tu-graz.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA25875; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:19:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:19:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erwin Stampfer To: questions@freebsd.org cc: erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk BSD is not able to find my CD-ROM Drive. The latter - a Mitsumi FX600 - is jumpered as a slave device of the harddisc (same port, same interrupt). I do not want to alter the hardware configuration of my computer. Is there another possibility. Erwin Stampfer Erwin Stampfer alias erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 02:04:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA17385 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uk1.vbc.net (jdd@uk1.vbc.net [204.137.194.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA17346; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jdd@localhost) by uk1.vbc.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA15814; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:03:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:03:18 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Dixon To: Chris Peltier cc: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org'" , "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: SMDS hardware/software for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <96Jul11.173859edt.6173@netgate.iectech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Chris Peltier wrote: > Does anybody know of a board and software that will > allow A FreeBSD system to act as a router connected > to an SMDs cloud. In particular the T1 "Dixie" (1.536mb) > version of SMDS. Any info on 56Kbs and 4Mbit+ would be > interesting. And please reply to the list; there is more than one person interested in this question. We are also looking for SMDS for FreeBSD or BSD/OS so that we could avoid having to use a Cisco to handle our SMDS line. No special hardware should be necessary here, just an SMDS driver that sits above the raw HDLC driver. -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 http://www.uk.vbc.net VBCnet West +1 408 971 2682 fax +1 408 971 2684 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 03:08:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA23967 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA23955 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA23560 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:08:39 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA01904; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:40:35 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607120940.CAA01904@starshine> Subject: Re: Mounting NCPFS using NFS To: bala@cst.com.au (Bala Periasamy) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607120405.OAA22708@skeg.cst.com.au> from "Bala Periasamy" at Jul 12, 96 02:05:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I have got a linux machine which has mounted novell netware 3.12 > on to the file system. IT is mounted as type ncpfs on to it. > > I am exporting this mount point to FreeBSD. But when I try to do a > mount of this mount from linux. It gets a permission denied. The man pages and/or docs from the last version of ncpfs that I read about specified this as a specific limitation of the package. Search of NFS. The programmer gave some reason for this (which I don't recall -- but it was a technical problem for which he didn't have a suitable solution -- something about maintaining virtual inodes (and how netware doesn't have anything that corresponds to an inode)). > I have got in my exports file on linux > /dir (ro,insecure) > > For me it looks like, even though I do a NFS export of the NCPFS > filesystem, the NFS server on my linux box denies permission. That sounds like the documented behaviour. > Can someone shine some light on this problem??@$@# It's probably not the answer you want -- but I hope it's what you needed. You could try the Caldera (I don't know it's behaviour WRT this) or you could look for an NFS NLM package (maybe some Netware hack has put together a (free|share)ware one -- or maybe Novell has lowered their prices on their's. Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 03:08:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA23995 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA23962 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA23568 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:08:41 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA01912; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:46:37 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607120946.CAA01912@starshine> Subject: Re: login To: lostone@edenbbs.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "lostone@edenbbs.com" at Jul 11, 96 08:02:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Read the FAQ,visited the web page still can't login. What have I > forgoten? Sorry for the dumb question but I remain lost. > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > Sent from Eden BBS - 714-548-1900 - Telnet: edenbbs.com Ummm....your password? ...to provide details for your question to us...? Login to what (a FreeBSD box that you built, the Walnut Creek FTP site, some BBS)? Through what means (local console, telnet, ftp, rlogin, dial-up modem, PPP/SLIP)? What is the failure mode (error message, hang, fire shooting out of the monitor)? While we all appreciate brevity (something we rarely get from me) -- we also appreciate having enough information on which to base a response. (I could undoubtedly write several hundred pages all the failure modes for all the types of login that might result from all the things that might be *forgotten*). Jim Dennis, Starshine Technical Services From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 03:12:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA24749 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA24739 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA23582 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:08:44 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA02053; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:06:56 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607121006.DAA02053@starshine> Subject: Re: Restricted shell for Web users To: paul@nation-net.com (Paul Walsh) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <31E4D747.16C9@nation-net.com> from "Paul Walsh" at Jul 11, 96 11:28:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Can anyone advise on configuring a shell account suitable for commercial > users of a web server offering rented space, access via ftp/telnet and > standard apps like perl would need to be available. Most of these seem to offer ftp access only (using "sticky bit" directories - and/or possibly wu-ftp "guest group" facilities) > Mail accounts aren't needed, just forwarding. > I've heard there is such a thing as a virtual shell? It sounds like just > what I need!! If you insist on allowing telnet into it (and poviding a shell account) you might look at the 'restricted shell' (I think there is a command line option on Bourne or Korn and support for it automatically assume this option if called via the name 'rsh' -- i.e. via a hardlink). The restrictions an this 'rsh' ('jsh'???) are something like: can't change directory, can't set/unset any variables, can't create any shell functions or aliases, etc. If you find out more (like an FAQ on them) I'd like to hear about it. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 03:20:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA25663 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA25655 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA01581; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607121020.DAA01581@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Jim Dennis cc: lostone@edenbbs.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: login In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:46:36 PDT." <199607120946.CAA01912@starshine> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:20:35 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Read the FAQ,visited the web page still can't login. What have I >> forgoten? Sorry for the dumb question but I remain lost. >> >> ______________________________________________________________________________ >> Sent from Eden BBS - 714-548-1900 - Telnet: edenbbs.com > > > Ummm....your password? I think what he wants is "root" for the user, and it won't ask for a password if you just did the install. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 03:39:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA27843 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orac.albury.net.au (root@orac.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA27838 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pA04.orac.albury.NET.AU (pA04.orac.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.36]) by orac.albury.net.au (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA16879 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:39:06 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:39:06 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199607121039.UAA16879@orac.albury.net.au> X-Sender: darnison@orac.albury.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: darnison@albury.net.au (Don Arnison) Subject: Setting up a FreeBSD 2.1 Router Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am attempting to set up a 486 PC running FreeBSD as a gateway server to an existing BSDI ISP. There are five interfaces, as follows: 1) Ethernet (ep0) to local PCs 2) cuaa0 dial up PPP to ISP BSDI name server (203.15.244.10) This line always comes in on the same digiboard port 3) - 5) cuaa1-cuaa3 dial-in PPP The situation is this: 1) I am new to the game 2) The FBSD server to has an internal address of 192.168.1.1, and the server is known to the ISP's machine as 203.15.244.57. 3) The dial-up to ISP works fine. I can get to machines on the net via this route. 4) The Dial-in lines I haven't tested yet, but I have followed faithfully Toshiharu Ohno's procedure in the ppp man pages and have high hopes. 5) The FBSD machine will not talk out the ethernet port to other PCs on the LAN. On the system console, I get the following message every few minutes, repeated three times: corryong routed [55] deleting route tointerface ep0 (timed out) I have included pieces of what I hope are relevant config files for your reference: /etc/sysconfig: # # Set to the list of network devices on this host. You must have an # ifconfig_${network_interface} line for each interface listed here. # for example: # # network_interfaces="ep0 sl0 lo0" # ifconfig_ed0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" # ifconfig_sl0="inet 10.0.1.0 netmask 0xffffff00" # network_interfaces="ep0 lo0 tun0 tun1 tun2 tun3" ifconfig_ep0="inet 192.168.1.1 203.15.244.10 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_tun0="inet localhost 192.168.1.31 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_tun1="inet localhost 192.168.1.32 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_tun2="inet localhost 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_tun3="inet localhost 192.168.1.34 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" /etc/hosts # Host Database # This file should contain the addresses and aliases # for local hosts that share this file. # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may # not be consulted at all; see /etc/host.conf for the resolution order. # # 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.corryong.albury.net.au 192.168.1.1 corryong.albury.net.au corryong /etc/host.allow telnetd:203.15.244. I would very much appreciate any help that you can offer. Please let me know if you need any more information. Regards, Don From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 03:50:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA29214 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (root@zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29205 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.5/8.7.2) with ESMTP id MAA21590 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:50:02 +0200 Received: (pantzer@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id MAA17775; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:50:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:50:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mattias Pantzare To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: 3c590 support in 2.1.5?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Acording to RELNOTES.TXT in 2.1.5-GAMMA, there is support for 3c590 cards in it, but when I look in the stable source I can't find it. Is it RELNOTES.TXT that is wrong, or am I missing something? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 04:09:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02582 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02552 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA27058 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:08:56 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA02135; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:05:20 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607121105.EAA02135@starshine> Subject: Re: login To: davidg@root.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jim@starshine.org, lostone@edenbbs.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607121020.DAA01581@root.com> from "David Greenman" at Jul 12, 96 03:20:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >> Read the FAQ,visited the web page still can't login. What have I > >> forgoten? Sorry for the dumb question but I remain lost. > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________________________ > >> Sent from Eden BBS - 714-548-1900 - Telnet: edenbbs.com > > > > > > Ummm....your password? > > I think what he wants is "root" for the user, and it won't ask for a > password if you just did the install. > > -DG > David, Maybe FreeBSD 2.2 should install default /etc/issue that gives instructions about logging in as root, and a run-once root .profile that then overwrites this (and itself) on first login. The old SLS distribution of Linux (probably the first viable combination of a Linux kernel with packages and installation scripts -- back in '93) did this. I think most of the current Linux distributions do this. Considering how many new-to-unix converts we're getting it seems like this would be a good idea (and trivial to integrate). From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 04:09:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02589 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02554 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA27050 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:08:54 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA02125; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:58:12 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607121058.DAA02125@starshine> Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X To: zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com (Zach Heilig) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Cc: zounds@INNOSOFT.COM, root@synwork.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <87ivbuur3a.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> from "Zach Heilig" at Jul 11, 96 09:45:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > zounds@INNOSOFT.COM writes: > > > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Mike K. wrote: > > > > Is there a way to use my mouse outside of X. It would be nice to be able > > > to cut/copy/paste in my shell. I know when I ran Linux, mouse was > > > available from the shell. TIA > > > You werent running the shell when you were using the mouse in linux Yes, he probably was. I've used my mouse on Linux systems which had never had an Xlib or bin pass over their filesystems. > > Actually, from what I saw from my friends screen (he seems to like > Linux..), the functionality is in the console driver. The button > mappings were the same as you'd expect under X. Not in the console driver (though there is probably some kernel level support). This function is provided by the old 'selection' or the more current gpm (generic protocol for mice??) by Allesandro Rubini (based on the selection code by Andrew Haylett). Midnight commander includes support for gpm -- so that one gets mouse support for the app -- just like the old Norton Commander for DOS. Any time a non-mouse aware (gpm) app is running gpm defaults back to it's role of allowing the operator to 'select' (mark/copy) and 'paste' any text that's displayed on the console. This is particularly when viewing info in one interactive (curses) program in one VC and needing to quote it in another. (You don't need X for this folks -- DESQview had support for text mode "mark & transfer" over ten years ago. I'd like to play with the console code in Linux to find/add hooks keyboard support for this -- and real backscrolling). Of course DV also supported multiple, resizable, overlapping, multi-tasking text mode windows before Microsoft ever heard of Xerox PARC --and DV offered a feature that I still don't get in *any* other environment (GUI or not, under DOS, Windows, Linux or FreeBSD) -- task sensitive keyboard macros and definitions that can cross task boundaries and perform mark and transfer. I once saved a Quarterdeck customer from several thousand dollars of hairy custom programming in about 10 minutes of telephone tech support time (while I worked for them). His problem was that he was switching from one contact management package to a new one. Each had a proprietary file format. Neither had an export or import function. He had a couple years (tens of thousands) of records in the old one (TeleMagic?). The solution was simple: open both packages in different tasks and close or "hide" all other windows; bring up a record display in the old one, and a record entry form in the new package; create a macro to mark each field from the old and transfer it to the corresponding field in the new (this converts one record) record another macro to save the new record, switch back to the other task, cycle to the next record, and call the first macro. (These macros were simply done interactively). Now the user was instructed to just hit the second macro key about 50 times; come back in five minutes; and repeat as necessary. The whole job kept his machine busy for a weekend with minimal hand holding on his part. The machine was a 386 with about 4Mb RAM. I'd really like to regain that sort of power and simplicity under Linux/FreeBSD. > I noticed in a different reply that this is supposed to go into 2.2. > Will the mouse give xterm-like events, so my emacs menu's will work > :-) or would that be impossible? (I am currently unable to run X, it > has something to do with disk space, and non-VGA display hardware).. Linux emacs doesn't exihibit support for gpm -- I suspect that this would require source patches to the binaries (elisp code would probably not be enough). Perhaps someone is porting gpm to FreeBSD. Maybe someone will also bring 'loadkeys' along for the ride. (hmm...adding gpm support to lynx, tin, and elm would be cool too). From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 05:08:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA08439 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA08432 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA12506; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:05:29 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607121405.OAA12506@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: Anyone get ksh93 to work? To: miker@cs.utexas.edu (Hung Michael Nguyen) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:05:28 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607120010.TAA29102@oink.cs.utexas.edu> from Hung Michael Nguyen at "Jul 11, 96 07:10:12 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, > > I downloaded the ksh93 (part of a larger package, ast, whatever that is), > and when I tried to run it, it core dumped. When I did a 'file ksh' it > came up with > > ksh: BSD/386 demand paged (first page unmapped) pure ex > > I'm running 2.1 (release). > > Thanks, > Mike. > > Do you mean a kornshell ? Then we have pdksh in our ports tree ! Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 05:39:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA09596 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA09591 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id OAA16828; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:39:39 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (NAA02132); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:35:25 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607121335.NAA02132@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Anyone get ksh93 to work? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:35:25 +0000 (GMT) Cc: miker@cs.utexas.edu In-Reply-To: <199607120010.TAA29102@oink.cs.utexas.edu> from "Hung Michael Nguyen" at Jul 11, 96 07:10:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > I downloaded the ksh93 (part of a larger package, ast, whatever that is), > and when I tried to run it, it core dumped. When I did a 'file ksh' it > came up with > > ksh: BSD/386 demand paged (first page unmapped) pure ex > > I'm running 2.1 (release). I've asked David Korn from AT&T, some time earlier, and he said, it's a BSD/OS 2.x version. So, get the Linux version, and install the Linux emulator, it works fine for me. (Or wait for FBSD 2.1.5, as I know, it has BSD/OS 2.x support in it.) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 05:42:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA09782 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA09777 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA02260 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:08:50 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA02180; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:45:39 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607121145.EAA02180@starshine> Subject: Re: kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 04:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: craigh@bugsoft.com, matt@bdd.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607112035.UAA05289@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from "James Raynard" at Jul 11, 96 08:35:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > >drive to boot from. If you get bored typing hd(1,a)/kernel every time > > >you boot, here's how to change them so it happens automatically:- > > ># cd /sys/i386/boot/biosboot > > ># vi boot.c So I take it that there's no way to do this with a command like Linux' 'rdev' (which patches the root device info into the kernel's binary image). I also gather that there's there's no way to pass this information as "parameters" to the kernel in BootEasy (similar to what LILO or LOADLIN.EXE do to the Linux kernel). Where are the other kernel boot options documented? I know about '(device,slice)/kernel.filename' (like Sun's) and about '-c' but what about -C, -v, etc (I guess -s would be "single user mode"). > > Hmmm - I've been trying to figure out a way to do exactly this. I have one > > IDE drive (all DOS) and one SCSI drive (all FreeBSD) and I'm getting tired > > of typing "hd(1,a)/kernel" at the booteasy prompt. I tried the steps > > outlined above but there were several problems. The first problem is I ... I'd like to solve a similar problem. I tried to installed the 2.2 SNAP onto a machine here -- one 200 Mb IDE, one 2.5Gb SCSI (Adaptec 1542), one 32Mb DOS partition on the IDE, (freed up the rest for FBSD), one 1.3 extended partition on the SCSI (which is split into a number of Linux partitions -- no DOS on it). Currently this machine boots into DOS and uses LOADLIN.EXE to go into Linux (it is the machine I'm typing at now) -- where it functions as my uucp host, a household web server, and a dial-in host and smart terminal (I call into it from wherever else to read my mail etc; and I use it to dial out to my other accounts). I'm hoping to replace this aging Slackware with a fresh BSD (one with a sane compilation of Taylor UUCP and cnews for starters). The problems are as follows: If I use FBSD.EXE -D (the INSTALL.BAT from the CD) the machine hangs between the ze0 and the npx0 (numerical processor extension???). This isn't too bad -- the machine is an ancient 386/33 with a weird ULSI brand math co-processor; my copy of Norton Diags hangs in the same place. So I bring up the CD (booting from a freshly made boot floppy and using -c to disable that and various other unnecessary drivers). I go through the fdisk and and the slice editor (disklabel??) to configure one 170 Mb partition into root, var, and usr slices. If I configure configure it for bad block checking then the system dies spectacularly when I try to commit. If I leave out bad block checking freebsd's install trips over the block of bad sectors that really is one the drive (dropped the machine in a parking lot a couple of years ago -- right off the hotel's little luggage cart). I don't mind replacing the drive really. But I'd rather add another SCSI and still boot off of the IDE. I have another SCSI -- but I can't bring myself to throw away 200 Mb of perfectly good storage (never had a lick of trouble with that drive; even after dropping it and creating a scratch on one of the platters). Ideally I could get this installed and get FBSD.EXE to let me pass parameters to the kernel that I load. Is there a way? ... > IDE drives are detected before SCSI drives by the BIOS, so the > bootstrap code has to be on wd0. Technically this is only true if you configured the CMOS to expect them. It is possible to set your CMOS to "none-installed" and then the BIOS extensions on your SCSI adapter will have a chance to boot off of one of your SCSI disks. I'm tempted to try this on this box here. (DOS uses a strange way of assigning letters to hard drive partitions: first primary partition on the first drive is C:, next primary partition on the next drive (if it exists) is D:, first logical drive within the (only) extended partition is the next letter (D: or E:) -- an so on through the logical drives on that partition; and finally the extended partition on the 2nd drive is handled. If you add a 2nd drive to an all DOS system -- and create just an extended partition on it! -- you'll get what you expect. If you add a 2nd drive but put a primary partition on it then the drive letters for all of your logical drives in the extended part. of drive 0 are all changed!) (I just thought I'd share that with the crowd -- it comes from personal experience). > -- > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 06:53:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA12982 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 06:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA12969 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 06:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ai29296; 12 Jul 96 14:52 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa29140; 11 Jul 96 1:01 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA04010; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:32:41 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:32:41 GMT Message-Id: <199607102232.WAA04010@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jpbelang@crim.ca CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607102004.QAA28604@hobbes.crim.ca> (message from Jean-Philippe Belanger on Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:04:20 -0400) Subject: Re: kernel malloc question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is a beginner device driver question: > The kernel malloc returns physical memory (non swappable), right? Yes, all memory used by the kernel is non-pageable, although changing this is on the wish-list. > Is there any way to get virtual memory ? Not as far as I know. Incidentally, if you haven't already seen it, the guide to writing FreeBSD device drivers at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ is well worth reading. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 08:09:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17600 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts17-128.indigo.ie [194.125.134.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17588 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA21283 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:03:42 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:01:49 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@NetworX.ie Subject: Intel EtherExpress-16 To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Am I right in assuming the Intel EtherExpress 16 is supported by the ie driver? Does it work well? The manpage doesn't mention this card and the Handbook has no mentions at all. Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 08:11:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17718 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com (dialup2.gaffaneys.com [134.129.252.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17709 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id KAA01676; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:12:08 -0500 (CDT) To: Jim Dennis Cc: zounds@INNOSOFT.COM, root@synwork.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X References: <199607121058.DAA02125@starshine> From: Zach Heilig Date: 12 Jul 1996 10:12:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: Jim Dennis's message of Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87buhlzet5.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 48 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Dennis writes: > Not in the console driver (though there is probably some > kernel level support). This function is provided by the old > 'selection' or the more current gpm (generic protocol for mice??) > by Allesandro Rubini (based on the selection code by Andrew > Haylett). > Midnight commander includes support for gpm -- so that one > gets mouse support for the app -- just like the old Norton > Commander for DOS. Any time a non-mouse aware (gpm) app > is running gpm defaults back to it's role of allowing > the operator to 'select' (mark/copy) and 'paste' any text that's > displayed on the console. This sounds like the environment in an xterm. It will pass mouse events down to the application if it asks. I know that jove supports this behavior, and I think I remember seeing something about emacs supporting it as well. I wonder if this 'gpm' sends xterm-like mouse events? > > I noticed in a different reply that this is supposed to go into 2.2. > > Will the mouse give xterm-like events, so my emacs menu's will work > > :-) or would that be impossible? (I am currently unable to run X, it > > has something to do with disk space, and non-VGA display hardware).. > Linux emacs doesn't exihibit support for gpm -- I suspect that > this would require source patches to the binaries (elisp code would > probably not be enough). Maybe you need to set an environment variable (TERM=xterm perhaps) to signal that it can expect xterm-like behavior. The only reason I brought that up is I noticed the MS-DOS version of emacs has mouse and font-lock support (wonder how "they" did it?). Fixing up syscons to fully emulate vt102 escape sequences, along with xterm-like mouse events (be they from gpm or something else), would probably be the best way to go, as you would have more support from applications that use a mouse while running in an xterm. Obviously somebody has to be interested in doing this :-) I'm mildly interested, but I'm pretty busy right now till at least the middle of August, maybe even September. -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited commercial email is unwelcome. My policy is avoid dealing with companies that send out such mailings. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 08:14:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17972 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (jjal@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA17963 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jjal@localhost) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id LAA22242 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:14:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:14:32 -0400 From: Joshua Lambert Message-Id: <199607121514.LAA22242@remus.rutgers.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: GENERICNE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I accidentaly deleted GENERIC and I was wondering if it is possible just to l download a copy? Also, My computer locked up when I was trying to get someting packages. Now, when I try, it say ssomething like PKG_ADD corrupted. WhereJGports is that file so I could delete it? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 08:38:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19897 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sycgate.sycomore.fr (sycgate.sycomore.fr [192.134.92.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19866 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.134.92.34] (berenguier.sycomore.fr [192.134.92.34]) by sycgate.sycomore.fr (8.6.3/8.5) with SMTP id RAA05875; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:18:47 +0200 X-Sender: berenguier@192.134.92.10 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:38:18 +0200 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Eric.Berenguier@sycomore.fr (Eric Berenguier) Subject: sendmail 8.6.13 on FreeBSD 2.1R Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm using FreeBSD release 2.1. The sendmail version on this release is the 8.6.12. I'm using on a computer that will be part of a firewall, therefore i need very secure software. Cert advisory CA 96-04 says that sendmail should be upgraded to version 8.6.13 But 8.6.13 doesn't compile with FreeBSD (i've taken it from berkeley ftp). Here is the log: Making in obj.FreeBSD.i386.2.1.0-RELEASE cc -O -I/usr/local/save/src/sendmail-8.6.13/src/obj.FreeBSD.i386.2.1.0-RELEASE -DNEWDB -DMIME -DUSEUNAME -c conf.c conf.c: In function `setupmaps': conf.c:353: warning: prototype for `host_map_init' follows conf.c:253: warning: non-prototype definition here conf.c: In function `setproctitle': conf.c:1077: `NKPDE' undeclared (first use this function) conf.c:1077: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once conf.c:1077: for each function it appears in.) conf.c:1077: `pt_entry_t' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 Did anybody manage to compile sendmail ? Is there a port ? Thanks in advance, -- Eric Berenguier SYCOMORE 31, place des Corolles - 92098 PARIS LA DEFENSE http://www.sycomore.fr From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 08:58:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21274 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21265 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA02358; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:57:14 -0500 (EST) From: John Dyson Message-Id: <199607121557.KAA02358@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: kernel malloc question To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:57:14 -0500 (EST) Cc: jpbelang@crim.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607102232.WAA04010@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from "James Raynard" at Jul 10, 96 10:32:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > This is a beginner device driver question: > > The kernel malloc returns physical memory (non swappable), right? > > Yes, all memory used by the kernel is non-pageable, although changing > this is on the wish-list. > Well, actually, you can use kmem_alloc_pageable to get pageable kernel memory. You have to be careful to have process context when page faulting. For a complete implementation of how to do kernel pageable memory, I refer you to the sys_pipe.c in -current. The pipe buffers are pageable. Also, the arg list temporary space in kern_exec is also pageable. You are absolutely right about the malloc() stuff being non-pageable though. Sorry that I have not responded sooner, I read my mail at work, file it and am sometimes rude and forget it it :-(. I apologize. John From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 09:14:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22554 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihgw1.att.com (ihgw1.att.com [207.19.48.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22545 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: grl@marconi.ih.lucent.com Received: from marconi.ih.lucent.com by ihig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id LAA09984; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:17:22 -0500 Received: by marconi.ih.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id LAA20405; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:10:00 -0500 Original-From: grlee@lucent.com (Grant R Lee) Received: from toolman.ih.lucent.com by marconi.ih.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id LAA20309; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:09:45 -0500 Received: by toolman.ih.lucent.com (5.x/EMS-L sol2) id AA15446; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:09:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:09:56 -0500 Message-Id: <9607121609.AA15446@toolman.ih.lucent.com> Original-From: grl@marconi.ih.lucent.com (Grant R Lee) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Cannot mount CDROM Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD: - Can I install from CDROM? I'm tring to install FreeBSD 2.1 (from CD ROM) to an HP Vectra with an IDE drive (Western Digital 1.6G). I picked up the 2.2-960612-SNAP Boot floppy from the FTP site and noticed that it does recognize my CDROM on boot. The Hard Drive and CDROM are on separate controllers. I never see the CDROM light come on (FreeBSD is in the drive) and the boot says "media unknown." Install allows me to select CDROM media without complaints but when it tries to access it, the mount fails: Error mounting /dev/wcd0c on /cdrom - Input/Output error (5) (I was able to install the basic package by coping to DOS but still could not install any packages. Thought maybe the symbolic links didn't copy to DOS - it read the Package Index bvt could not access the packages). - Matrox and FreeBSD? I have a Matrox Millenium video card and understand it is not supported by FreeBSD. Also heard that I can use X-Inside with FreeBSD and this card to run X-applications. Is this correct? I'll be using it to display X-applications on the PC at home from the UNIX-Sun systems at work (via 28.8 modem/PPP for now). Grant R. Lee grlee@lucent.com Lucent Technologies 1000 E. Warrenville Road Naperville, IL 60566-7013 708-713-1355 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 09:24:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23075 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (root@linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23070; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uni4nn.iaf.nl (root@uni4nn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.33]) by linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA20980; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:25:21 +0200 Received: by uni4nn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA10308 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:25:08 +0200 Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA04761 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:44:52 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA00308; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:54:30 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199607121554.RAA00308@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands Subject: Re: adaptec 154X support To: rich@oester.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:54:29 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <31E564ED.5E13@oester.com> from "G.R.Gircys" at Jul 11, 96 01:32:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As G.R.Gircys wrote... > have a fine ole dx2/66 board with adaptec 1542B (older style with > jumpers) - worked flawlessly with bsdi for 2 years - now moving to > freebsd and find that during 2.1 install (usually while copying floppy > resident files) system either hangs or panics (virt screen 2 messages > about scsi bus locked). > > so i try a newer card - 1542 C/CF series - works great. > > > does freebsd support the older adaptec 154X A/B? in my caseseems the > answer is no. My AH1542A (even older) works just fine.. Wilko _ ____________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 09:37:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA24559 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24554 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA25074; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:37:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: Michael Ryan cc: FreeBSD Support Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress-16 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Michael Ryan wrote: > Am I right in assuming the Intel EtherExpress 16 is supported > by the ie driver? Does it work well? The manpage doesn't > mention this card and the Handbook has no mentions at all. > > The driver for the EtherExpress 16 is ix0 (it's a rather old card, not to be confused with the newer EtherExpress Pro series. Works well for me... you may have to use the DOS setup program to move the IRQ and/or I/O address though. -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 09:46:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA25374 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.interramp.com (smtp1.interramp.com [38.8.45.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA25363 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pp002382.interramp.com by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id MAA17997; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:45:54 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960712164609.610fbf5c@pop3.interramp.com> X-Sender: pp002382@pop3.interramp.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:46:09 -0700 To: mike@NetworX.ie From: "John W. Rasins" Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress-16 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 04:01 PM 7/12/96 BST, you wrote: >Am I right in assuming the Intel EtherExpress 16 is supported >by the ie driver? Does it work well? The manpage doesn't >mention this card and the Handbook has no mentions at all. > > >Mike > >--- That is what I am using Mike, and it is the ix driver that recognizes my card upon boot up. John From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 10:04:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26599 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [206.196.133.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26586 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com (egate.mnet.uswest.com [151.116.23.138]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA14906 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:03:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA29288 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23794; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:03:27 -0500 Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23781; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:03:16 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA15236; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:01:46 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199607121701.MAA15236@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: adaptec 154X support To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:01:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: rich@oester.com, questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607121554.RAA00308@yedi.iaf.nl> from "Wilko Bulte" at Jul 12, 96 05:54:29 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Wilko Bulte said: > > As G.R.Gircys wrote... > > > have a fine ole dx2/66 board with adaptec 1542B (older style with > > jumpers) - worked flawlessly with bsdi for 2 years - now moving to > > freebsd and find that during 2.1 install (usually while copying floppy > > resident files) system either hangs or panics (virt screen 2 messages > > about scsi bus locked). > > > > so i try a newer card - 1542 C/CF series - works great. > > > > > > does freebsd support the older adaptec 154X A/B? in my caseseems the > > answer is no. > > My AH1542A (even older) works just fine.. I have a dx2/50 and a 1542B. No problems with BSDI (older), Solaris (2.1, 2.4, 2.5 Beta) and FreeBSD 2.1. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Cold-hearted orb that rules the night Removes the colors from our sight Red is gray, and yellow white But we decide which is right And which is a quantization error. (Jef Poskanzer - via The Moody Blues) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 10:05:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26702 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwnexus.wa.com (nwnexus.wa.com [192.135.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26688 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com ([198.145.127.110]) by nwnexus.wa.com with SMTP id AA01011 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:05:04 -0700 Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uele0-000QYNC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 10:04 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: tcg@ime.net Cc: Chuck Robey , Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup References: <31E5D70C.5ACA@ime.net> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:39:40 -0400." <31E5D70C.5ACA@ime.net> Reply-To: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:04:43 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > For anything I've wanted to do, > > the benefits of the external, portable box have outweighed any costs. > > Not everyone needs portabability, Most don't! True...but that's why I qualified that with "for anything I've wanted...". I tend to be involved with different sorts of computers in different locations. Between that and lack of an accurate crystal ball, I have "portability" in my list of within-reason requirements :-). At any rate...I don't remember the original question, but from the subject line...easy ways to force a modem to hangup might be to turn it off or unplug the phone line from it (does that actually hangup? I don't think I've tried it). Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 10:22:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA28268 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA28258; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:22:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607121722.KAA28258@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: CERT FreeBSD ppp Advisory--Distribution? To: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Annelise Anderson" at Jul 11, 96 06:25:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > > CERT has distributed an advisory on a security problem with user ppp, > information provided by FreeBSD, Inc. Although I'm subscribed to the > USENET group comp.security.announce (and it's there), I actually heard > about it from my system administrator. > > I would think such information ought to be available rather widely to > people subscribed to various freebsd mailing lists, not just security, > and should be on the freebsd home page as well. freebsd-security-notifications is *the* mailing list for these matters. only the freebsd-security-officers can post to this list. only important notifications are posted. the volume is very low, i am happy to say. the availability and importance of this list should be highligted more clearly on the freebsd web pages and perhaps in the installation documetation. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 11:01:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01334 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.telebit.com (webster.telebit.com [143.191.3.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01301; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (sharps.chelmsford.telebit.com) by webster.telebit.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Telebit.COM-Sendmail-V4.3) id AA28340 to freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Jul 96 14:00:42 EDT Received: from smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com by Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1-pmm-2) id AA01787; Fri, 12 Jul 96 14:00:44 EDT Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA837205829; Fri, 12 Jul 96 13:58:19 EST Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 13:58:19 EST From: "Nathan Melhorn" Message-Id: <9606128372.AA837205829@smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com> To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: Jaz drive questions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ====== Message from Stephen Couchman 96.07.11 22:40 ====== I have installed a Jaz drive as sd1 (SCSI id #2). I am using an Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI host adapter. FreeBSD does not seem to recognize the drive and produces the following messages: (ahc0:2:0): "iomega jaz 1GB G.60" type 0 removable SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:2:0): Direct-Access sd1(ahc0:2:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry 1021MB (2091050 512 byte sectors) =========================================================== I just installed an IOMega parallel port Zip drive into my kernel. It's not part of FreeBSD, I just found the PPA-3 driver on someone's web page (Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr) -- who can't actively support it at this time. The instructions said that I'd get messages about ficticious geometry, since it "can't be sensed". I can still mount_msdos the drive on the 4th slice of the drive (sd0s4) with a working DOS ZipDisk and see the contents. The instructions said to fdisk-examine the drive to confirm which was the proper slice. I don't know about your other problems, since I'm new to FreeBSD and still fooling around with the ZipDrive. Currently the probe at boot time takes 2 minutes! I also haven't yet tried formatting it as a Unix disk. -regards, Nate Melhorn (n_melhor@chelmsford.telebit.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 11:29:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA02791 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imparnet.imparcial.com.mx (imparnet.imparcial.com.mx [200.13.72.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02764 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.182.69.103] by imparnet.imparcial.com.mx (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id fa051069 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:38:27 +0000 Message-ID: <31E69810.47C@tsi.com.mx> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:23:12 -0600 From: "Lic. Vladimir Armenta" Reply-To: varmenta@tsi.com.mx X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD aplication in my company Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From : Lic. Vladimir Armenta Ruelas Los Mochis, Sinaloa México To : The FreeBSD Team somewhere in the cyberspace Hello !!, I´m glad to get in touch with you, and I would like to encourage you in order to keep your project growing every day. Besides, I am interested in learning how FreeBSD can halp us to link our existing LANs (if possible), if you can send me some information related, it would be very well received. We have covered 16 citys with our services and we are planning to join them to concentrate and feedbak the information generated every day. If FreeBSD is not intended for what I thought, please excuse me, (don´t laugh), and let me know anyway. As you can see, I don´t have a big english, but I can understand what you send me. I studied Computer Systems and just started to learn about the options in creating a WAN. Thanks for your time and congratulations for your (very well done) work. Send information to : Vladimir Armenta Ruelas varmenta@tsi.com.mx From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 11:34:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03327 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.telebit.com (webster.telebit.com [143.191.3.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03314 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (sharps.chelmsford.telebit.com) by webster.telebit.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Telebit.COM-Sendmail-V4.3) id AA28701 to tcg@ime.net; Fri, 12 Jul 96 14:15:43 EDT Received: from smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com by Chelmsford.Telebit.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1-pmm-2) id AA02125; Fri, 12 Jul 96 14:15:44 EDT Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA837206729; Fri, 12 Jul 96 14:12:16 EST Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 14:12:16 EST From: "Nathan Melhorn" Message-Id: <9606128372.AA837206729@smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com> To: tcg@ime.net, Terry Lambert Cc: terry@lambert.org, martin.loeffler@utoronto.ca, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: forcing a modem to hangup Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ========= Terry Lambert wrote.. > Can you name an internal modem .. > That can be powercycled without power-cycling the machine? I've seen at least one that could be RESET by toggling an interface register bit. Though the modem's obscure (a Microcom internal), the method looks like it's been copied other places. I no longer have the modem. -regards, Nate Melhorn (n_melhor@chelmsford.telebit.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 11:35:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03442 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03432 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atka.feut.utoronto.ca ([142.150.33.89]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <801217(2)>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960712183341.006e4eac@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca> X-Sender: martin.loeffler@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:33:41 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Martin Loeffler Subject: v2.1 install failed Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Install of FreeBSD v2.1 on a Dell Pentium 60 with 16 Meg RAM, NEC 2x IDE cd-rom drive, and Seagate ST32140A 2.1G IDE hard drive, failed with the following error messages: VTY1: Failed to load the ROOT distribution. Please correct this problem and try again. VTY2: gunzip: stdin: Input/output error /stand/cpio: premature end of file DEBUG: Dummy [default] close called for wcd0c with fd of 6 DEBUG: Switching back to VTY1 None of which makes sense to me, other than it seems to be a problem reading the CD. I chose a novice-Developer installation, using the whole of the disk for the install (with auto-partitioning). Any insight would be welcome. Thanks, M. -- 8th habit of Highly Effective People - They don't get in my way. Martin Loeffler, Curator of Computing Technology TEL Centre, Faculty of Education, University of Toronto martin.loeffler@utoronto.cao.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 11:47:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04097 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04088 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tony@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/1.2) id LAA10900 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:47:25 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:47:25 -0700 (MST) From: Tony Jones Message-Id: <199607121847.LAA10900@seagull.rtd.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress-16 Newsgroups: rtd.freebsd.questions Organization: RTD Internet Access X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you wrote: : Am I right in assuming the Intel EtherExpress 16 is supported : by the ie driver? Does it work well? The manpage doesn't : mention this card and the Handbook has no mentions at all. Yep, supported by Rod Grimes' ix driver. I had real problems with this card in a 486. Card lock ups (had to down the interface), lots of other console messages. Some messages (which Rod said) indicated a failure of the card to keep up with traffic rates. Rod said that he knocked the driver together real fast, so he wasn't too sure of it. Also said he was never able to get the driver working to the level of reliability that the Windoze drivers had. Also have several collegues who have had similar problems using this card under Linux. Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 11:47:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04126 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ifqsc.sc.usp.br (uspfsc.ifqsc.sc.usp.br [143.107.228.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04113 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sucuri.cdcc.sc.usp.br by IFQSC.SC.USP.BR; Fri, 12 Jul 96 15:49 BRT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:52:07 -0200 From: Octavio Augusto Deiroz Subject: unsubscribe To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <30040BC7.FCA@uspfsc.ifqsc.sc.usp.br> Organization: USP X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Envelope-to: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe octavio@uspfsc.ifqsc.sc.usp.br From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 12:10:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07529 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from albyl.ies.luth.se (albyl.ies.luth.se [130.240.6.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07503 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 130.240.6.42 (elevmac12.ies.luth.se) by albyl.ies.luth.se with SMTP (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/IDA-1.2.8-NS) id AA16949; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:08:17 +0200 Message-Id: <31E6A405.22@tullverket.se> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:14:13 +0100 From: per.hannlov@tullverket.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Why does not my FreeBSD inst. works ???? X-Url: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have made about 15 FreeBSD installations !!!! The problem is : If I makes a FreeBSD installation, the PC wont boot there is no problem what so ever with the installation. But when I boot my PC. The only thing that happends is: F1 DOS F2 BSD If I choose F2, the pipesigne (|) prompts. and my PC hangs. Ok I know I know. I have already made a Installation (350 MB partition) and disabled my external BIOS on my Promise Eide 2300 controller card and the FreeBSD inst. was sucessfull. BUT when I will make a DOS partiotion of the rest of my 1275 MB disk the size of the partition only reach 105 MB. (Tot 504 MB). I have ALSO already made a small (1 MB) DOS partition then the 350 Free.. partition --->> No different. The strange thing is that if I enables the external BIOS and boot the floppy. FreeBSD can recognise all of my harddisk. Because the installation is successfull BUT I cant boot. It looks like the bootmanager can not find the bootsector of my Free... partition I only describes a few alternatives of installation I have made. --->>> And I can tell you. This problem is not possible to solve in some hardware way. I must get som software, or if someone can help me with some installations parameters. I have in principal made a Fresbee of my FreeBSD but if there is some hacker who can solve the problem I would gladely tell everone what a wonderfull world the FreeBSD world is. For now on ---->>> MICROSOFT NT Per Hannlöv Edeforsgatan 46 974 38 Luleå Sweden 046-920 94269 per.hannlov@tullverket.se From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 12:13:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07871 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07829; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:13:18 GMT Received: from yogurt.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.7.5/ISnet/12-09-94); Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:13:51 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:13:51 GMT Message-Id: <199607121913.TAA15390@hummer.islandia.is> X-Sender: stefan@islandia.is X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Stefan Thor Hreinsson Subject: Re: Problems with PPP and cyclades (Solved) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 09:54 AM 7/12/96 +1000, you wrote: >>I'm trying to get ppp-iij using the tun device to work. I can connect to it >>and everything seems fine until I hangup, the ppp daemon doesn't terminate >>and just holds the device open. This happens only when using Cyclades 16-Ye >>DB25-DB25 device with 16 modems connected (from dmesg: cy0 irq 5 maddr >>0xd4000 msize 8192 on isa). But when using sio everything >>works fine and ppp terminates. I'm using the same modem on both devices. > >>... >>Currently I'm using sliplogin.dynamic with the Cy-16 with the external >>connector box, and there are no trouble with that setup. But some of my >>users want to use ppp to connect to my server. > >ppp polls DCD while slattach waits for a SIGHUP. ppp's method is much >easier to get right for both the daemon and the driver, but there seems >to be a problem with it. > >I use the following program to poll the modem state for all sio and cy >lines. The DCD state should be `-DCD' when nothing is connected and >change to '+DCD' when something is connected and raises DCD and change >to `-DCD' on hangup. This works with a Cyclaydes 8Yo. Perhaps there >is a timing problem in the ppp daemon. You should probably use kernel >ppp if there is more that one ppp session at a time. > [SNAP] Thanks for that program Bruce, it showed us that dcd was still up even though we had already hung up the line. Later I received a fix to modem.c in ppp: >>I have experienced a similar problem. I solved it changing the CLOCAL flag >>to HUPCL, in modem.c. >> >>diff modem.c ~wsj/src/ppp/modem.c >>440c440 >>< rstio.c_cflag = (CS8 | CREAD | CLOCAL | CCTS_OFLOW|CRTS_IFLOW); >>--- >>> rstio.c_cflag = (CS8 | CREAD | HUPCL | CCTS_OFLOW|CRTS_IFLOW); >> >>With this, the ppp program receives a SIGHUP when the modem lost the >>carrier, and it terminates in the expected way. >> >>I have three models of cyclades (8Ys/8Yo/16Ye) and this works fine. >> >>I hope this can help you. Good look! ;-) >> >>Waldemar. >>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>Waldemar Scudeller Jr. wsj@widesoft.com.br >>Widesoft Sistemas Ltda. http://www.widesoft.com.br >>Limeira/SP - Brasil F. +55 194 51 6300 >>-------------------------------------------------------------- This worked, the ppp dies with SIGHUP and the line is ready for the next user. Thanks everyone who helped me solve this problem. Kvedja fra Islandi. --------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Thor Hreinsson. Isl@ndia Administrator of Islandia.is Gresásveg 7 2.h.th stefan@islandia.is Sími: 5884020 --------------------------------------------------------------- There are two types of people: those who divide people into two types, and those who don't. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 12:42:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10614 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br (srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br [200.248.184.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10584 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (dl0132-poa.nutecnet.com.br [200.248.249.132]) by srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id TAA10875 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:45:35 GMT Message-ID: <3164A087.12D2@nutecnet.com.br> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 20:24:39 -0800 From: Alexandre Stumpf Organization: Interage Integradora X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with Cyclades 16y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I'm trying to configure a Cyclades 16y on my FreeBSD, but I'm having some problems. I have modens pluged on each port of it and I want to receive calls through those interfaces. The problem is that when i connect to the port I receive no login. My configuration is : /etc/ttys # Cyclades Deevices ttyc0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure ttyc1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure ttyc2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure ttyc3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure ttyc4 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure ttyc5 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure ttyc6 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure ttyc7 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure .... config # Cyclades 16y # device cy0 at isa? tty irq 10 iomem 0xd4000 iosiz 0x2000 vector cyintr options "MAXMEM=131072" Thanks in advance Alexandre Stumpf stumpf@nutecnet.com.br From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 12:45:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10888 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (itsdsv1.enc.edu [199.93.252.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10843 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dingo.enc.edu (dingo.enc.edu [199.93.252.229]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA07374 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 15:44:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 15:49:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Owens To: questions list FreeBSD Subject: suidperl v5.003 won't SUID Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've just compiled and installed perl 5.003 and SUID scripts aren't working. Any reason why it should work differently than 5.001? Is there any FreeBSD-specific patching that needs to be done (I just ftp'd it from CPAN and compiled)? The move to 5.003, of course, was prompted by the recent CERT advisory. If I have the following script set suid to root, it worked as expected with 5.001, but with 5.003 _nothing_ happens (no error... nothing). #!/usr/local/bin/perl print "\$<: $<\t\t\$>: $>\n"; Thanks, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 13:26:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13717 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webcentric.net (webcentric.net [207.15.2.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13703 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 207.15.2.14 by webcentric.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:24:36 +0000 Message-ID: <31E670C0.7BFA@webcentric.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 15:35:29 +0000 From: Mike Vesey Reply-To: mvesey@zeus.webcentric.net Organization: WebCentric Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am installing 2.1 on my machine via ftp (or attempting to) I get to the interface selection screen and there are no ethernet cards listed. I assume that means that FreeBSD did not detect any. I have a HP netserver 5/100 with a 3c509 configured as an eisa card. Is there a problem here? Can I fix it? How? Thanks Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 14:25:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17506 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17501 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02025; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:19:54 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607122119.OAA02025@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and DASH To: jay@map.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:19:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu In-Reply-To: from "Roland Jay Roberts" at Jul 10, 96 07:10:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I hope someone with some experience would improve the floppy tape > support in FreeBSD, since there are a number of us with floppy tape > units. They may not be as good as SCSI, but they are in-expensive > and generally trouble-free. People with experience don't buy floppy tape drives. 8-). Nevertheless, you should probably download the "lft" alpha; it fixes most the the "ft" problems. If you don't know where to get it, you probaly aren't following -hackers or -current, and it may not run on your kernel. To follow the discussion after the fact, use the search engine on www.freebsd.org. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 14:53:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20823 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20815 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02075; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:46:25 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607122146.OAA02075@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Samba FS planned to implement? To: jim@starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:46:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, jim@starshine.org, igor@cs.ibank.ru, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607102347.QAA00222@starshine> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 10, 96 04:47:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Further protections rely on typical obscurity mechanisms to interpose > > a layer of protection to the mount point to enforce user access semantics; > > even if this is instituted (which is not an enforced access method), > > doing so on a per user basis requires a mount per user -- an unrealistic > > administrative burden. > > In essence the Unix host running smbfs must be "trusted" > by the admin of the SMB server (i.e. a problem of transitive > trust) Not exactly. Each user the UNIX administrator trusts must be trusted by the SMB administrator as much as the user the UNIX administrator uses to establish the credential for the mount. This falls through the cracks in both security models: ,------------. | | | | UNIX | UNIX model | SMB | | server | | `------------+-----------. | | SMBFS | SMB model | | | `-----------' The "UNIX SMB server" model is a subset of the UNIX model, and so can be mapped, though at a per access cost for the user credential conversion, and with the need to compromise UNIX security by giving out accounts to DOS users. The other limitation is that security enforcement on UNIX is such that there is no interface from the SMB client to set enforcement restrictions -- they are settable only on the UNIX host (ie: you can't set GID on a file from a DOS client). This is acceptable, since it gives a minimal intersection of both security models. > This sounds like a design limitation rather than a "bug" > per se. It limits the use of smbfs to single user workstations > or to a limited number of "trusted" users per host -- and > requires that the *ix system be reasonably secure and > restrictive in its configuration. Yes. However, the UNIX mount model is not prepared to deal with this, and the credentials model is such that the SMB server administrator may trust Bob the UNIX user, but not Tom the UNIX administrator, with Bob the SMB user's files. It is possible to cludge this by defining convoluted and complex "here is how you use SMBFS" protocols which allow user maounts, but it's "not UNIXy". It's also unlikely that an annoying and cumbersome protocol will obeyed when a wshortcut is possible. Look at all the DOS programs which write screen memory directly instead of using the protocol acceptable interface of INT 10. > There shouldn't be a problem with "public" shares (those that > are freely accessible within the domain) assuming that > *both* machines in question are secure (on a private or secure > LAN, possibly behind a firewall). This is true. But how do you make the mounts *only* work on public shares? UNIX applications have limited utility in a "public share" where the UNIX security model has been totally and completely compromised, and you can not trust file contents, as a result. We haven't even *discusses* resolving the interoperability problems between UNIX advisory locking and DOS mandatory locking... > A question: > > If someone is running telnetd on their NT box > and allows multiple users on a LAN to telnet into it > for shell (4NT or COMMAND) access .... does the same > problem exist? Can that user see shares that the > NT box has NET /USE'd? Can the NT admin also > limit the access to those (similar to 'root' limiting > the permissions on the smbfs mount point)? I don't know; I have no real experience with the telnetd or shell on the NT platform. I suspect that it could be guarded, since NT has a user credential which can be referred to from the network client in the NT IFS when a network request is made. Probably, the user will be able to CD to the top level shares, may be able to do a "dir" there (destroying security through obscruity for the top level volume -- probably not a concern for a well-admistered system), but will not be able to access inferior directories or files for which an authenticated SMB version of his credential exists in the password cache. > Are you suggesting that this be implemented like CFS or > userfs (I've used CFS but not userfs)? No. I'm suggesting that the client security be implemented like the Windows 95 password provider interface, where authenticating as a UNIX user unlocks the users "password cache". Then a session manager is established as part of login, and when the kernel SMBFS needs a password for an SMB server, it asks the session manager for it. The session manager will look in the password cache, which the user can use to establish pre-authentication information for when it is later needed, and, if necessary and technically possible (ie: on the console or an X sever or in a Screen session), the session manager can pop up a user request to provide authentication information. The information can be stored in the cache (at the user's option: "remember this password"), and will be passed on to the kernel to allow it to complete the pending request (or deny it, if the authentication information is incorrect). For systems that care about security of password caching, there is always the ability to turn it off and have the session manager query the user each time. This (l;ike the UnixWare NUC login) assumes that there is a covert channel to the user -- UnixWare assumes the ability to pop up an X requester from the session manager. Since UNIX cerdentials are identical for multiple sessions, it would be a good idea to divorce the UNIX credential from the process. This is a necessary step in B2/B1 certification in any case; however, it is also possible to cache at the kernel level the credential/session pair. Thus if a user has two xterms and attempts to access the same network resource from each of them, he or she is only interrogated once for verification. This same method can be used, seperate from the user credential, to provide directory and file level password protection in an FS stacking layer (a B1 requirement). This requires up-front session management implementation, but the spin-off is well worth it (IMO). I'm willing to work on the session management interface. I believe I am one of the few people outside of Microsoft to have successfully build a Windows95 password provider interface module. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 16:01:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24480 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacific.pacific.net (pacific.pacific.net [199.4.80.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24474 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by pacific.pacific.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with UUCP id QAA26649 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:05:04 -0700 Received: from jake.realgoods.com (jake.realgoods.com [192.9.200.1]) by elwood.realgoods.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA04669 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 15:06:11 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Neill Thornton Reply-To: Neill Thornton To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: NIS questions... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems with NIS entries in the passwd files being used during the login process, i.e. someone will try to log in to the BSD machine (which is an NIS client) and it will deny them access. I tried reading all the man pages on yp/NIS that FreeBSD has, but they aren't offering any suggestive clues. Here is the setup: Server: IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.12. Client: Pentium running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE You can ypcat the passwd table while on the machine, and get the entries off of the RS/6000: elwood# ypcat passwd | tail debra:Huxb5kAAKsLVA:267:1:Debra Dix:/u/users/debra:/bin/ksh chris:JXs9FFc7YFIxM:206:1:Christine Christensen:/u/users/chris:/bin/ksh nena:4Oe0KyYJalgY2:235:1:Nena Burgess:/u/users/nena:/bin/ksh nayo:CnEfeHIZYmDeA:295:1:Nayo Sicard:/u/users/nayo:/bin/ksh mark:MbL3ad6vhWbLs:319:1:Mark Winkler:/u/users/mark:/bin/ksh jill:ByRGgbDXuFvaQ:241:1:Jill Miller:/u/users/jill:/bin/ksh bill:fE.2Rx3wBipkM:226:1:Bill Simmons:/u/users/bill:/bin/ksh tom:HjwN6S/yocJOc:224:1:Tom Moen:/u/users/tom:/bin/ksh ann:h6pM7HaKJ8uIs:287:1:Ann Dutra:/u/users/ann:/bin/ksh and I have the following entry at the end of my /etc/master.passwd: +::::::::: which (after vipw) put this in the /etc/passwd +:*:0:0::: but when a user tries to log in, they get: jake: {10}telnet elwood Trying... Connected to elwood.realgoods.com. Escape character is '^]'. FreeBSD (elwood.realgoods.com) (ttyp0) login: tester Password: Login incorrect login: I am wondering if the entries in the passwd tables are screwed up, or if FreeBSD just does not like AIX... any help or clues would be appreciated. TIA Neill -- Neill Thornton Network Administator, Real Goods Trading Corp. Adopt an animal... date a hockey player. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 17:35:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA27057 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27043 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab22535; 13 Jul 96 1:35 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ad23087; 13 Jul 96 1:24 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA02678; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:00:09 GMT Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:00:09 GMT Message-Id: <199607130000.AAA02678@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: Eric.Berenguier@sycomore.fr CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (Eric.Berenguier@sycomore.fr) Subject: Re: sendmail 8.6.13 on FreeBSD 2.1R Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Eric.Berenguier@sycomore.fr (Eric Berenguier) writes: > > Hello, > I'm using FreeBSD release 2.1. The sendmail version on this release > is the 8.6.12. I'm using on a computer that will be part of a firewall, > therefore i need very secure software. > Cert advisory CA 96-04 says that sendmail should be upgraded to version 8.6.13 > But 8.6.13 doesn't compile with FreeBSD (i've taken it from berkeley ftp). Perhaps it would be better to FTP down the sendmail code from the current source on ftp.freebsd.org? This will be whatever version is regarded as safe (I hope!) and will have had any patches it needs to compile already applied. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 17:43:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA27305 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27299 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA02293; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:36:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607130036.RAA02293@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Novell 3.12 on FreeBSD To: jim@starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:36:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: bala@cst.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607110341.UAA00346@starshine> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 10, 96 08:41:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Even if you had a FreeBSD Netware client (let's say that > someone took the Linux ncpfs or the Caldera bindery/NDS > client and got it running under FreeBSD (no small feat since > they both rely on kernel support for IPX)) -- you still wouldn't > be able to do proper Netware backups. > > Merely being able to copy files off of a Netware server doesn't > constitute a *backup*. Right. You need an SMS interface. > Caldera is a commercial package -- but much less expensive than > any NLM solution that I've heard of. Caldera is also less > expensive then NT or OS/2 and compares pretty favorably to > DOS/Windows solutions (except that it's *much* more stable and > rich than DOS/Windows). > > If it was me -- I'd go for the Caldera option. In fact, > when it was me -- I did. There are SMS soloutions for Solaris x86; it's unlikely anything you do short of SMS will back up NDS information correctly. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 17:46:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA27407 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27401 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA29998; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:46:08 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA25556; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:47:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:47:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Thanh Khuu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Thanh Khuu wrote: > My second hard drive is IDE and I am reserving it purely for FreeBSD. > Should I do something different or does the installation program take > care of it. I don't know cause I have yet to get to the installation I think the FAQ says something about about installing to a harddisk that doesn't have a DOS partition on it... not sure... As I said, I can never keep all the little answers to the various hdd questions straight. I think people are encouraged to keep the cc: questions@freebsd.org in the message. If no one catches it in the above quote, you would be safe in asking again if it doesn't work... > menu. After I boot from floppy in order to install from my IDE CDROM, I > use the -c option for the boot sequence. Then I disable all the devices > giving me conflicts cause I don't have those stuff. I quit and save > the settings and after that the screen goes blank and that's it. What's > going on and how can I get beyond this point? By the way, what is the > OSBS that you suggested I should install instead? OSBS is used to select between different operating systems at boot time (or so I'm told -- I've always had to use fbsdboot.exe since some people here would pee on me if an extra phase was thrown into the Win95 boot process :(. It's supposed to be better than the BootEasy supplied with 2.1R. Do you have a Mach64 graphics card? That can cause your screen to go blank. You have to disable sio0, sio1, sio2, and sio3 if you have the Mach64. See the FAQ for more info. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 18:00:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA28044 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28039 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA00521; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:00:24 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA27367; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:01:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:01:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jim Dennis cc: Zach Heilig , zounds@INNOSOFT.COM, root@synwork.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X In-Reply-To: <199607121058.DAA02125@starshine> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Jim Dennis wrote: > Perhaps someone is porting gpm to FreeBSD. Maybe someone will > also bring 'loadkeys' along for the ride. > > (hmm...adding gpm support to lynx, tin, and elm would be > cool too). I recall hearing on the ncurses-list that the DEC vt1000 (and I think another) terminal emulation standard had support for mice. ie. One could define a rectangle on the screen, and pointer clicks within that rectangle would be recognized. The newer versions of ncurses also support mice... Offhand, I'm not exactly sure how this support manifests itself; whether it just reports mouse-clicks, or wether it could be used to provide some sort of console cut&paste... -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 18:21:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA28711 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28705 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uetOG-0001ESC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 21:21 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: looking for remote dump suggestion Date: 12 Jul 1996 21:20:58 -0400 Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4s6tlq$6dq@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have two machines, ux1 and admin. Ux1 is a general machine and not considered especially secure. Admin is used only internally and we try to keep it relatively secure. Admin has a tape drive on it. Ux1 does not and will not; we want all that stuff on other machines than ux1. To back up ux1, I have to run dump on it, which does a remote login on admin, requiring a .rhosts on admin for ux1. If ux1 is root compromised, so also is admin, which kinda defeats the purpose.... Obviously, I could hack up the entire rlogin/rsh thing on admin so that root can _only_ run rmt and only with acceptable arguments. I don't like this, as it really doesn't solve the problem -- a cracker on ux1 could play havoc with backups for other machines. (Well, I suppose, I could make it time-dependent; that is, admin knows who should be doing what backup when and then reject improper requests based on that. "Robust" isn't a term I'd apply to that....) What I'd *really* like to do is to run dump on admin but have dump access ux1's file systems. However, for those same security reasons, I'm not going to run NFS. It looks like, short of a major programming project, I've painted myself into a corner and will just have to accept the lesser of several evils. Unless someone has a suggestion....? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 18:30:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29020 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.vvm.com (ns.vvm.com [204.71.94.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29012 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windows95.vvm.com (k1slip15.vvm.com [204.71.95.144]) by ns.vvm.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA16747 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:32:18 -0500 Message-ID: <31E6FBDC.272A@vvm.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:29:00 -0500 From: "Paul N. Temple" Organization: Temple Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DPT SCSI controller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there or will there be support for DPT's caching controllers? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 19:33:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA01195 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01188 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA02436; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:27:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607130227.TAA02436@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NIS questions... To: neillt@realgoods.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:27:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Neill Thornton" at Jul 12, 96 03:04:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > but when a user tries to log in, they get: > > jake: {10}telnet elwood > Trying... > Connected to elwood.realgoods.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > > FreeBSD (elwood.realgoods.com) (ttyp0) > > login: tester > Password: > Login incorrect You installed the DES package so that the password is created from the user password being DES encrypted instead of MD5 checksummed, right? IOf not, make sure you do it as root and reset your root password (or unset it) so you will be able to log in... your current passwords local to the machine will be invalid. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 19:51:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02005 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexgen.ampr.org (max12-76.HiWAAY.net [206.104.16.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02000; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 19:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by nexgen.ampr.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA07011; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:30:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.4-prerelease [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <31E564ED.5E13@oester.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:20:20 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Amateur Radio N4HHE, Madison, AL. From: David Kelly To: rich@oester.com Subject: RE: adaptec 154X support Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, "G.R.Gircys" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 18:32:45 "G.R.Gircys" wrote: >have a fine ole dx2/66 board with adaptec 1542B (older style with >jumpers) - worked flawlessly with bsdi for 2 years - now moving to >freebsd and find that during 2.1 install (usually while copying floppy >resident files) system either hangs or panics (virt screen 2 messages >about scsi bus locked). > >so i try a newer card - 1542 C/CF series - works great. > >does freebsd support the older adaptec 154X A/B? in my caseseems the >answer is no. Have you fiddled with bus timing on the Adaptec cards? Along the same lines I have a 486DX33 that has worked fairly well with SCSI for several years. Until the first of the year. It started trashing files that were not being written to. Tried BIOS settings. Tried the Adaptec 1542CF settings. Tried another 1542CF, disk drives, UltraStor 14F, even finally got desparate and tried MS-DOS. More or less the same with everything, while everyting worked on other systems. Decided the MB was broken. Pulled the SCSI card and its current uptime is about 75 days now. I hate PC's. Wish it would break good and proper so I could put it out of my misery. That box really nees a P166 in it, but then I might feel like the 640x480 256k VGA card would need to be replaced... :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com, dkelly@hiwaay.net =============================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 20:14:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02688 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.montana.edu (fubar.cs.montana.edu [153.90.192.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02683 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cs.montana.edu; id AA01755; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:14:17 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960713031526.006f7c54@cs.montana.edu> X-Sender: ashworth@cs.montana.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:15:26 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Justin Ashworth Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe freebsd-multimedia - Justin J. Ashworth -- CS Student, Montana State University --- Chair, Association for Computing Machinery - MSU -- ashworth@cs.montana.edu - http://www.cs.montana.edu/~ashworth From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 20:45:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA03714 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA03701 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00658; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:45:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:45:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Kent Vander Velden cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <9607111435.AA06546@spiff.cc.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Kent Vander Velden wrote: > Is the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI 100Mbps ethernet card support > with either -stable or -current? Not yet. > In another box I have a cheap NE2100 compatible card. The kernel on > that box reports CRC check error VERY often and Framming error once in a > while. I have commented out most of the error reporting mechanism from the > kernel to avoid /var from filling up with these errors. Is there a > better solution? Is this due to the type of ethernet card? NE2100? Hm. I have a cheap NE2000 that works great. My guess would either be that either the cabling or the card is bad. Or your network is rather noisy. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 20:46:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA03749 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA03743 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00665; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:47:05 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:47:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mattias Pantzare cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590 support in 2.1.5?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Mattias Pantzare wrote: > Acording to RELNOTES.TXT in 2.1.5-GAMMA, there is support for 3c590 cards > in it, but when I look in the stable source I can't find it. Is it > RELNOTES.TXT that is wrong, or am I missing something? Should be in there. My guess is that it's interfaced into the ep0 driver. Note that PCI cards are automatcially configured. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 20:51:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04015 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA04010 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00682; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:51:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:51:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Nathan Melhorn cc: FreeBSD help Subject: Re: Adding devices to boot.flp In-Reply-To: <9606118371.AA837148588@smtpgate.chelmsford.telebit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Nathan Melhorn wrote: > I was fairly successful adding parallel port IoMega ZipDrive support > to my kernel (access is OK, initial probing takes >1 minute). Now I'd > like to put a FreeBSD distribution on a ZipDisk so I can install it at > home (which only has a 28.8 modem). How would I get the install floppy > so it could read the ZipDisk? I assume that means "making" a boot > disk. Are there simpler/better ways? WHAT?!?!? You have a parallel Zip working? Whoa! What did you do, write a driver? I thought the parallel wasn't supported and wasn't for a very long time. The SCSI works OK. In response to your query, though, building a boot floppy is a long and difficult process, basically requiring one to build the whole release. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 20:55:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04487 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA04479 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00692; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:56:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: grl@marconi.ih.lucent.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot mount CDROM In-Reply-To: <9607121609.AA15446@toolman.ih.lucent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996 grl@marconi.ih.lucent.com wrote: > - Can I install from CDROM? I sure hope so :-) That is the absolute best way to go if your CD is supported. > I'm tring to install FreeBSD 2.1 (from CD ROM) to an > HP Vectra with an IDE drive (Western Digital 1.6G). > I picked up the 2.2-960612-SNAP Boot floppy from the FTP > site and noticed that it does recognize my CDROM on boot. Cool! You're in luck. > The Hard Drive and CDROM are on separate controllers. > I never see the CDROM light come on (FreeBSD is in the drive) > and the boot says "media unknown." That's OK, there's no CD in there. > Install allows me to select CDROM media without complaints but > when it tries to access it, the mount fails: > > Error mounting /dev/wcd0c on /cdrom - Input/Output error (5) Hm, because there isn't any CD in the drive on boot. > - Matrox and FreeBSD? > I have a Matrox Millenium video card and understand it is not > supported by FreeBSD. Also heard that I can use X-Inside with > FreeBSD and this card to run X-applications. Is this correct? > I'll be using it to display X-applications on the PC at home > from the UNIX-Sun systems at work (via 28.8 modem/PPP for now). The Matrox works great. FreeBSD supports any standard video card with a text mode. :-) Now Xwindows, on the other hand, doesn't. Rather, XFree86 does not. XInside, Inc, as you mentioned, DOES have a server for this card. You'll have to buy that one but it's an excellent package, so I hear. X over modem will not be fun. :( Let's say it's not as snappy as your local display. It will work. You might try to find the low-bandwidth servers (?) and see if you can get them to interface to your Sun. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 21:13:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05369 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05364 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00770; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:13:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:13:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Annelise Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CERT FreeBSD ppp Advisory--Distribution? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > CERT has distributed an advisory on a security problem with user ppp, > information provided by FreeBSD, Inc. Although I'm subscribed to the > USENET group comp.security.announce (and it's there), I actually heard > about it from my system administrator. If anyone is interested, you can view the bulletin at the following URL: ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/cert_bulletins/VB-96.11.freebsd Basically take the suid bit off of ijppp until you patch it. This requires the superuser to set up connections. > I would think such information ought to be available rather widely to > people subscribed to various freebsd mailing lists, not just security, > and should be on the freebsd home page as well. The mailing list suggested would be the best stop for security information. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 21:18:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05636 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA05623 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA00390; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607130417.VAA00390@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: Kent Vander Velden , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:45:46 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:17:58 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Kent Vander Velden wrote: > >> Is the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI 100Mbps ethernet card support >> with either -stable or -current? > >Not yet. The Pro/100 isn't supported, but the Pro/100B is. Which one do you have? -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 22:06:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA07564 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spiff.cc.iastate.edu (spiff.cc.iastate.edu [129.186.142.89]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA07559 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by spiff.cc.iastate.edu with sendmail-5.65 id ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:05:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9607130505.AA09823@spiff.cc.iastate.edu> To: davidg@root.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:17:58 PDT." <199607130417.VAA00390@root.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:05:53 CDT From: Kent Vander Velden Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607130417.VAA00390@root.com>, davidg@root.com writes: >>On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Kent Vander Velden wrote: >> >>> Is the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI 100Mbps ethernet card support >>> with either -stable or -current? >> >>Not yet. > > The Pro/100 isn't supported, but the Pro/100B is. Which one do you have? It would appear to be a Pro/100B. There was an additional notes in the packages stating that it was rather important to use the Pro/100B drivers. However the package does not mention it. On startup I get this message: pci0:20: Intel Corporation, device=0x1229, class=network (ethernet) int a irq 11 [no driver assigned] --- Kent Vander Velden graphix@iastate.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 22:28:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA08756 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08703 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24212; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:57:23 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:57:23 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199607130527.OAA24212@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: stumpf@interage.com.br, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Cyclades 16y X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <3164A087.12D2@nutecnet.com.br> you wrote: : Hi : I'm trying to configure a Cyclades 16y on my FreeBSD, but I'm : having some problems. I have modens pluged on each port of it and I : want to receive calls through those interfaces. The problem is that : when i connect to the port I receive no login. : My configuration is : : /etc/ttys : # Cyclades Deevices : ttyc0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure : ttyc1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure : ttyc2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure : ttyc3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure : ttyc4 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure : ttyc5 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure : ttyc6 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure : ttyc7 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" network on secure Well i wouldn't have them quite like that.. more like ttyc0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" unknown on having the secure setting means your allowing root logins! : .... : config : # Cyclades 16y : # : device cy0 at isa? tty irq 10 iomem 0xd4000 iosiz 0x2000 vector : cyintr : options "MAXMEM=131072" Have you got options "COM_MULTIPORT" and the devices made in /dev? Are you getting messages in /var/log/messages, is the cyclades being found on boot up (whats the "dmesg" output) I'd also suggest a quick glance at the handbook section on using the cyclades cards. Peter -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds The internet is full, please try again in half an hour... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 22:36:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA09470 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA09463 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00849; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:36:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:36:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Alex Huppenthal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP Lease on Ethernet In-Reply-To: <31E59956.3211@comsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Alex Huppenthal wrote: > I'm looking for a DHCP server for FreeBSD that will provide a IPCP > lease to a hosts on an Ethernet? Can PPP be config'd to do this? Huh? Do you mean just straight DHCP or dynamic addressing over PPP? Or make DHCP leases when PPP wants to dynamically assign an address? > I must admit it's been a few months since I read the docs, but my > recollection is that there is no support for Dynamic Host Configuration > Protocol over Ethernet. What? I sure hope so; the UO is going to DHCP IP allocation this summer. DHCP is supposed to be BootP backwards-compatible (or similar). > We have a client who has 500 hosts that are on and off the net all > day. There is no reason to fix IP addresses for each workstation, > they should simply get one from the free pool on the server. I know of at least 2 DHCP servers that are in the ports collection, one of which is the WIDE server. DHCP client for FreeBSD is another matter entirely. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 22:38:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA10054 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10042 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00860; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:39:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:39:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Blake Freeburg cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dial-up configuration help... In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960712025915.0071cbc0@mail.mrdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Blake Freeburg wrote: > Anyways, I have a FreeBSD 2.1 machine (P90/32MB RAM) and have gotten to > the point where I can get it to connect, and present me with the login, but > then do nothing. It looks something like this: > > atdt 918-0420 > CONNECT 28800/ARQ > > Mr. Data Consulting > Do not log in if you do not have a password > FreeBSD (phydeaux) (ttyd0) > > login: blakef > Password: > > > And then will timeout after 300 seconds. It looks like login is just > hanging there: Is your shell set right? Do you have anything goofy in .login? Is the return key set right in your terminal program? I'm surprised you don't even get the copyright message. > 175 d0 I; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14601(2)>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:42:18 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <177476>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:42:06 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: bill@twwells.com Subject: Re: looking for remote dump suggestion Cc: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <96Jul12.224206pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:42:02 PDT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How about admin# rsh ux1 dump 0f - / | dd of=/dev/tape Dump to stdout and use rsh to pipe the stdout to dd (to reblock it) to the tape drive. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 22:43:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA10374 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10367 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00870; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:43:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:43:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: enzo cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error Message In-Reply-To: <31E4D2BA.2622@bud.indirect.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, enzo wrote: > I got and error message when trying to configure and (?)install(?). I > had gotten boot.flp and rawrite.exe and made a boot disk. I waited 5 > secs. and i got the following message: > "text=0xfc000 Error: C:19553273 > 1023 (Bios Limit)" > after that my A: drive (floppy drive) froze and I had to restart my > computer. At what stage in the install was this? What is your computer's configuration? Motherboard/bios/disks/memory/etc... What partitioning scheme did you try? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 22:53:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA12045 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA12040 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ad20503; 13 Jul 96 6:53 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa23158; 13 Jul 96 1:25 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02595; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:58:24 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:58:24 GMT Message-Id: <199607122258.WAA02595@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jim@starshine.org CC: paul@nation-net.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607121006.DAA02053@starshine> (message from Jim Dennis on Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:06:55 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Restricted shell for Web users Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Mail accounts aren't needed, just forwarding. > > I've heard there is such a thing as a virtual shell? It sounds like just > > what I need!! > > If you insist on allowing telnet into it (and poviding a shell > account) you might look at the 'restricted shell' (I think there > is a command line option on Bourne or Korn and support for > it automatically assume this option if called via the name > 'rsh' -- i.e. via a hardlink). AFAIK this is a SysV ism - the Berkeley rsh is the 'remote shell', used for running commands on a different host from the one you're logged in to. I couldn't find anything in the sh man page about this (I don't have the ksh man page due to a chronic lack of disk space). > The restrictions an this 'rsh' ('jsh'???) are something like: > can't change directory, can't set/unset any variables, can't > create any shell functions or aliases, etc. I understood 'jsh' was how you invoked the job-control version of sh on SysV (our sh already has job control built in, so we don't need it). I wasn't aware it had anything to do with user restrictions, but I'm open to correction (my experience of SysV being rather limited). Anyway, I've seen one or two other requests for this - if I can get hold of a proper spec for this, I *might* have a go at it (unless of course someone else does it first :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:13:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13008 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13003 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00896; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:13:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Roland Jay Roberts cc: FreeBSD Questions , "dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu" Subject: Re: FreeBSD and DASH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Roland Jay Roberts wrote: > >Won't happen. It's a floppy tape (with or without the Ditto Dash) and > >those aren't supported (except for the old QIC-40/80s). > > I hope someone with some experience would improve the floppy tape support in FreeBSD, since > there are a number of us with floppy tape units. They may not be as good as SCSI, but they > are in-expensive and generally trouble-free. Actually, hope may be in sight. Someone is testing a new floppy tape driver in -current. It works great for a Colorado Jumbo 250, who knows about other hardware, but it's a start. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:18:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13455 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13450 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00906; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:18:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Lic. Vladimir Armenta" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD aplication in my company In-Reply-To: <31E69810.47C@tsi.com.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Lic. Vladimir Armenta wrote: > Hello !!, I4m glad to get in touch with you, and I would like to encourage you > in order to keep your project growing every day. Besides, I am interested in learning > how FreeBSD can halp us to link our existing LANs (if possible), if you can send me some > information related, it would be very well received. We have covered 16 citys with our > services and we are planning to join them to concentrate and feedbak the information > generated every day. It's rather dependent on how the information is transmitted, but a FreeBSD box with appropriate tools could be well suited for such an application. FreeBSD is a unix-like OS and is designed to handle such apps. You haven't sent much detail on what you exactly will be doing (routing, info processing, ?) so I can't make a determination. (In addition, I don't call myself a pro by any stretch :-) We'd be glad to answer any other questions you may have. Or if you send more info on your project we may be able to better isolate FreeBSD's usefullness to you. (Or get someone else to comment with more experience) > If FreeBSD is not intended for what I thought, please excuse me, > (don4t laugh), and let me know anyway. As you can see, I don4t have a big english, but I > can understand what you send me. I studied Computer Systems and just started to learn > about the options in creating a WAN. Thanks for your time and congratulations for your > (very well done) work. You're very welcome. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:21:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13662 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13657 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa23111; 13 Jul 96 7:20 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab23069; 13 Jul 96 1:24 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02506; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:05:22 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:05:22 GMT Message-Id: <199607122205.WAA02506@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jjal@remus.rutgers.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607121514.LAA22242@remus.rutgers.edu> (message from Joshua Lambert on Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:14:32 -0400) Subject: Re: GENERICNE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Joshua Lambert writes: > > I accidentaly deleted GENERIC and I was wondering if it is possible just to l > download a copy? If you have the CDROM set, it's on the second CD, in the obvious place (/cdrom/sys/...). Otherwise, you should be able to download it from ftp.freebsd.org or one of its mirrors. >Also, My computer locked up when I was trying to get someting > packages. Now, when I try, it say ssomething like PKG_ADD corrupted. WhereJGports > is that file so I could delete it? # which pkg_add /usr/sbin/pkg_add -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:22:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13719 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13714 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00941; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:22:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:22:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Pedro A M Vazquez cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gated GII In-Reply-To: <199607111416.OAA08910@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Pedro A M Vazquez wrote: > The gated manual mentions the Gated Interactive Interface, GII, > an interactive interface that listens on port 616. I've tried with > gated-3.5a11.tgz from 2.1.0 packages but was unable to activate it. You'd have to look. I don't see anything in any of the gated manuals I've got (well, the only one, the info from the O'Reilly TCP/IP book) and don't see any reference to GII. I would guess it's a separate package from the straight gated distribution. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:25:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13932 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13925 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00953; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:25:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:25:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Joshua Lambert cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERICNE In-Reply-To: <199607121514.LAA22242@remus.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Joshua Lambert wrote: > I accidentaly deleted GENERIC and I was wondering if it is possible just to l > download a copy? I'll email it to you privately. > Also, My computer locked up when I was trying to get someting > packages. Now, when I try, it say ssomething like PKG_ADD corrupted. WhereJGports > is that file so I could delete it? pkg_add corrupted? Huh? A session transcript would be helpful (screen output, etc.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:27:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14007 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from masternet.it (root@masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14002 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmarco (ts1port12d.masternet.it [194.184.65.34]) by masternet.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA22035 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:26:04 +0200 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960713220150.0067aab4@masternet.it> X-Sender: gmarco@masternet.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 00:01:50 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: wd0: interrupt timeout: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I often receive this message on my laptop : wd0: interrupt timeout: wd0: status 58 error 0 This happens even if the power management of the laptop is turned off and it isn't powered by batteries.... What's happen ? It's an hardware problem ? Regards... +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | ,,, | | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | (o o) | | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | ---oo0-(_)-0oo--- | | http://www.masternet.it/dsc/gmarco | Gianmarco | +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:29:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14157 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14145 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA00419; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607130629.XAA00419@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Kent Vander Velden cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:05:53 CDT." <9607130505.AA09823@spiff.cc.iastate.edu> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:29:33 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >In message <199607130417.VAA00390@root.com>, davidg@root.com writes: >>>On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Kent Vander Velden wrote: >>> >>>> Is the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI 100Mbps ethernet card support >>>> with either -stable or -current? >>> >>>Not yet. >> >> The Pro/100 isn't supported, but the Pro/100B is. Which one do you have? > > It would appear to be a Pro/100B. There was an additional notes in the >packages stating that it was rather important to use the Pro/100B >drivers. However the package does not mention it. > > On startup I get this message: > >pci0:20: Intel Corporation, device=0x1229, class=network (ethernet) >int a irq 11 [no driver assigned] Right, device 0x1229 is the Pro/100B. It's supported in both -stable (soon to be 2.1.5-RELEASE), and -current. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:31:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14255 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14249 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00970; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: paulc@seas.ucla.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: harddrive partition In-Reply-To: <9607101841.AA12169@lightning.seas.ucla.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996 paulc@seas.ucla.edu wrote: > I heard from a friend that BSD requires a root partition > which is required to residee in the primary partition. I used > FIPS to split the primary partition (c:\) toaround 50-50. I then > ran the boot.flp and typed -c to configure the hardware settings. The > hardware settings seems to be working fin right now. But when it came > to partitioning the hd, I assumed that it was asking where the root > partition should reside. I hi-lited one of the 50MB and typed q (quit). > And continued following default instructions. Then I came to out of > space message. Try this. I haven't tried this myself so it may not work. First, delete the FreeBSD partitions to start clean. Then in the fdisk editor make two FreeBSD slices: one in the 50mb space you just made, another taking up the remaining 400mb on the disk. In the disklabel editor, put the 'a' partition (/) on the 50mb partition, and /var and /usr and swap on the 400mb. (Hint: watch the device names for which slice to use. wd0s1, wd0s2....the last digit is the slice.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:32:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14362 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from serv1.rof.net (root@serv1.rof.net [206.168.17.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14355 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 95server (ptp1.rof.net [206.168.17.1]) by serv1.rof.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA13779; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:34:19 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <31E73275.4745@comsys.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:21:57 -0500 From: Alex Huppenthal Reply-To: alex@comsys.com Organization: Communication Systems Research Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP Lease on Ethernet References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for your useful remarks Doug. For those wishing to examine DHCP and IP number management on Ethernets from both a technical and administrative perspective check out: http://ltpwww.gsfc.nasa.gov:81/ltpcf/ This is by far the best single source of information on the subject I've discovered. As we add more and more commercial sites to our backbone, we are being asked to help these sites manage their IP number usage. This question was raised by several schools in our area. They would like to place 500-1000 computers on the net, but understand the need to manage IP namespace. Most of these systems are not in use simultaneously. How do Universities manage their IP namespace? Dedicated IP ? IP lease? What is U0 going to use to manage the numbers? -Alex Doug White wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Alex Huppenthal wrote: > > > I'm looking for a DHCP server for FreeBSD that will provide a IPCP > > lease to a hosts on an Ethernet? Can PPP be config'd to do this? > > Huh? Do you mean just straight DHCP or dynamic addressing over PPP? Or > make DHCP leases when PPP wants to dynamically assign an address? > > > I must admit it's been a few months since I read the docs, but my > > recollection is that there is no support for Dynamic Host Configuration > > Protocol over Ethernet. > > What? I sure hope so; the UO is going to DHCP IP allocation this > summer. DHCP is supposed to be BootP backwards-compatible (or similar). > > > We have a client who has 500 hosts that are on and off the net all > > day. There is no reason to fix IP addresses for each workstation, > > they should simply get one from the free pool on the server. > > I know of at least 2 DHCP servers that are in the ports collection, one > of which is the WIDE server. > > DHCP client for FreeBSD is another matter entirely. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:34:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14445 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14376 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00978; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:32:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Erwin Stampfer cc: questions@freebsd.org, erewan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Erwin Stampfer wrote: > BSD is not able to find my CD-ROM Drive. The latter - a Mitsumi FX600 - > is jumpered as a slave device of the harddisc (same port, same interrupt). > I do not want to alter the hardware configuration of my computer. Is > there another possibility. . FTP from ftp.freebsd.org or from a local machine, if you're on a net. . Install from a DOS partition. . Install from floppies. Plenty of choices :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:34:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14500 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14491 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00988; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:35:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Matthew Stein cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Matthew Stein wrote: > config kernel root on sd0 > > ...is in there. The kernel isn't making the decision here, I think it's > the boot block, or the init. The SCSI probe looks like this... > > ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 11 on pci0:11 > ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > (ncr0:0:0): "QUANTUM EMPIRE_1080S 1022" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access > sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. > 1029MB (2109376 512 byte sectors) > (ncr0:3:0): "MATSHITA CD-ROM CR-503 1.0f" type 5 removable SCSI 2 > > The problem is that before this SCSI probe, the kernel thinks it's on sd1. > Even before the FREEBSD banner comes up with the kernel build time (before > top lines shown in dmesg) it refers to sd1. There isn't an sd1. Hm. The boot blocks may be getting confused, or the NCR is, or something. :-) I wonder if you need to rebuild the boot blocks and hint it in the right direction. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:39:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14869 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14862 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00995; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:39:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:39:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Beau Giles cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Install In-Reply-To: <19960711221956890.AAA221@vrml> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Beau Giles wrote: > I'm booting up with the boot disk and the generic kernel recoginizes my > floppy, hard, and SCSI CD-ROM drives, then everything goes blank except for > a large white cursor in the lower left hand corner. Nothing happens next, > it just sits there. One of a few things: 1. It's going hunting for something, maybe CD media. Give it a bit. 2. You're being bit by the sio probe bug. Try disabling sio3 and 4 and try it. If that doesn't work, disable all of them, and see if that helps. 3. Bad boot floppy. Try a clean, error-free disk. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:40:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA15047 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA15037 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01005; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:41:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:41:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mike Vesey cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Installation In-Reply-To: <31E670C0.7BFA@webcentric.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Mike Vesey wrote: > I am installing 2.1 on my machine via ftp (or attempting to) > I get to the interface selection screen and there are no ethernet > cards listed. I assume that means that FreeBSD did not detect any. > I have a HP netserver 5/100 with a 3c509 configured as an eisa card. 509 as an _E_isa? Really? I thought they were straight ISA. :) Boot -c and make sure the settings are right for ep0. And turn off plug & play. Watch the boot messages for ep0 and resolve any errors. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 12 23:54:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA15552 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA15547 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ueyaf-0001EfC; Sat, 13 Jul 96 02:54 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: looking for remote dump suggestion Date: 13 Jul 1996 02:54:07 -0400 Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4s7h6f$bvk@twwells.com> References: <96Jul12.224206pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <96Jul12.224206pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com>, Bill Fenner wrote: : How about : : admin# rsh ux1 dump 0f - / | dd of=/dev/tape Silly me forgot about that one. And it has the advantage of centralizing the dump commands on admin, which is a Good Thing (TM). I recall that we tried something like that on a network of Suns and it routinely croaked. Oh well, I'll give it a try.... From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:02:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA15951 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA15946 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01042; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:02:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:02:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Chrysler cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Logging boot scripts. In-Reply-To: <31E0B80F.1059@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Is it possiable to log the output of the bootup scripts. > If so how? > Preferably controllable. ie: on and off.. Which? The kernel message output is available through the 'dmesg' command. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:06:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA16164 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA16159 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01062; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:07:19 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:07:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Terry Lee cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lp0 not in LINT? In-Reply-To: <31E5517A.9D5@ienet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Terry Lee wrote: > Why isn't device lp0 a kernel configurable device (I can't find it in > LINT)? Is there any way of getting rid of it in ifconfig and netstat? lp0 doesn't require configuration. It's attached to the lpt? driver, and autoconfigs itself when the lpt driver detects an interrupt-driven port. If you don't like it try changing your ports to polled mode by removing the irq assignment. FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #2: Fri Jun 7 20:10:34 PDT 1996 dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/GDI [...] lpt1 at 0x278-0x27f on isa gdi,ttyp2,~,17>netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 00.c0.d1.08.08.17 86497 0 5108 0 25 ed0 1500 128.223.186 128.223.186.250 86497 0 5108 0 25 lo0 16384 48 0 48 0 0 lo0 16384 your-net localhost 48 0 48 0 0 sl0* 552 0 0 0 0 0 tun0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:27:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA17023 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA17018 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01104; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:28:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Christopher J Brown cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, Christopher J Brown Subject: Re: NCR215 supported? In-Reply-To: <199607101456.KAA13602@gagarin.cs.Buffalo.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Christopher J Brown wrote: > I have read conflicting documentation. Some places it says PCI SCSI > NCR81x and NCR82x are supported (which would include NCR815) and I have > read elsewhere that NCR810 and NCR825 are the only NCR SCSI controllers > supported. Could you please set me staight about this? Thank you. The NCR/SYM53c815 SCSI controller is supported. It's what's driving my Plextor 4xPlus CD ROM drive at the moment. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:39:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA17641 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA17629 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA15122 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:39:19 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA00517; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:04:40 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607130704.AAA00517@starshine> Subject: Re: looking for remote dump suggestion To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4s6tlq$6dq@twwells.com> from "T. William Wells" at Jul 12, 96 09:20:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I have two machines, ux1 and admin. Ux1 is a general machine and > not considered especially secure. Admin is used only internally > and we try to keep it relatively secure. Admin has a tape drive on > it. Ux1 does not and will not; we want all that stuff on other > machines than ux1. > > To back up ux1, I have to run dump on it, which does a remote > login on admin, requiring a .rhosts on admin for ux1. If ux1 is > root compromised, so also is admin, which kinda defeats the > purpose.... > I have two suggestions for you: Trust should flow the *other* direction (rather than allowing ux1 to initiate processes on admin, allow admin to initiate processes on ux1 -- and use a command like: you@admin$ rsh -l root ux1 'dump ...' | dd ... of=/dev/rmt0 (note this is rough since I always have to look up the parameters to dump and I don't know your blocksizes, tape's device name, etc, would be). The idea is to get 'dump' on ux1 to direct its output to stdout -- which will get piped into 'dd.' My other suggestion is tcp_wrappers. You should configure admin so that it won't allow logins from ux1 at all. (I also hope that you have an anti-spoofing screen on your router). From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:41:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA17807 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA17802 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA15130 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:39:22 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA00530; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:07:57 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607130707.AAA00530@starshine> Subject: Re: Novell 3.12 on FreeBSD To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jim@starshine.org, bala@cst.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607130036.RAA02293@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 12, 96 05:36:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Merely being able to copy files off of a Netware server doesn't > > constitute a *backup*. > > Right. You need an SMS interface. Not really. He said 3.12 > There are SMS soloutions for Solaris x86; it's unlikely anything you > do short of SMS will back up NDS information correctly. Like I said -- 3.12. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:43:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA17868 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA17863 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01129; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:43:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:43:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: mtoole@hidesert.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Question about Executables In-Reply-To: <199607071939.MAA00170@www.hidesert.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996 mtoole@hidesert.com wrote: > When I go into the /usr/games directory where the games I got when I > Installed the OS FreeBSD, it tells me "Command Not Found". Do you have > any idea why its doing this? /usr/games isn't in your path. Try running the games by prepending ./ to the name. So to run fortune: cd /usr/games ./fortune I thought it's in there by default though. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:48:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA18445 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA18438 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01139; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:48:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:48:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Michael Ryan cc: FreeBSD Support Subject: Re: Sanyo 6x CD-ROM drive: how to config In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Michael Ryan wrote: > Hello all, > > I've a Tottori Sanyo AT-API 6x CD drive on my FreeBSD 2.1 > Pentium machine. It's on a secondary IDE controller. The > controller is recognised during boot-up but the CD drive > isn't. The /dev/wcd0c device file says "Device not > configured" when I try to mount it. > > The bootup messages relating to WD devices are: > ---------------------------------------------- > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 1033MB (2116800 sectors), 2100 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa You haven't shown me a CD yet. The IDE cdrom will come up as "wcd0". Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:54:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA18834 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA18828 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01149; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:54:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:54:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Marc Novakowski cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for NTFS? In-Reply-To: <31E1D90E.59BC@ee.ualberta.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Marc Novakowski wrote: > I was wondering if there is support for Windows NT filesystem? If not, > is there any work being done on it? Thank you.. Nope, probably on both counts. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 00:59:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19167 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA19162 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01159; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:59:46 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gianmarco Giovannelli cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wd0: interrupt timeout: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960713220150.0067aab4@masternet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > > I often receive this message on my laptop : > > wd0: interrupt timeout: > wd0: status 58 error 0 > > This happens even if the power management of the laptop is turned off and it > isn't powered by batteries.... > Do you have IDE spindown on? I'm getting a similar message from my pent with it turned on. No damage, perfectly innocent (from what I can tell). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 01:27:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA21571 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.netvoyage.net (news.netvoyage.net [205.162.154.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21549; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from foo.netvoyage.net (foo@localhost) by news.netvoyage.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id BAA18479; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:27:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (bkogawa@localhost) by foo.netvoyage.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA04821; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:26:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: foo.netvoyage.net: bkogawa owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:26:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" To: questions@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Tip to improve print resolution w/ HP DeskJet 600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm starting a job-search (anyone have FreeBSD related job openings?) and so I thought I'd start fiddling with groff/troff to do my resume (so that I can learn something while trying to get a job). Reconfiguring my printer (it used to work... honest!) was a little frustrating, mostly because I didn't reread the handbook (after i did that, it was rather straightforward -- hpif worked nearly out of the box :) ). Unfortunately, the output from this configuration wasn't up to my hopes (I was using the djet500 driver, and was getting what I considered rather poor output). In trying to figure out how to configure my printer, I had searched AltaVista, and some people had recommended using the laserjet 4 driver for ghostscript ( -sDEVICE=ljet4 ) with the DJ 600 (they are 600x600 resolution printers). I tried that, and voila... instant improvement in print quality. If you have a Deskjet 600 (or maybe other of the newer 600x600 deskjets), you might want to give it a try. Standard Disclaimers.. Please don't blame me if your printer breaks. bryan From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 01:48:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA23399 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA23394 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uf0N3-00018mC; Sat, 13 Jul 96 04:48 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: looking for remote dump suggestion Date: 13 Jul 1996 04:48:09 -0400 Lines: 38 Message-ID: <4s7ns9$eom@twwells.com> References: <4s6tlq$6dq@twwells.com> <199607130704.AAA00517@starshine> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199607130704.AAA00517@starshine>, Jim Dennis wrote: : Trust should flow the *other* direction : (rather than allowing ux1 to initiate processes : on admin, allow admin to initiate processes on : ux1 -- and use a command like: : : you@admin$ rsh -l root ux1 'dump ...' | dd ... of=/dev/rmt0 Yeah. Like I said, Silly Me for not thinking of that. : (note this is rough since I always have to look up the : parameters to dump and I don't know your blocksizes, tape's : device name, etc, would be). Actually, I've decided not to use dump. The main reason is that I don't want to fully dump certain file systems so I really need to filter the path names. So it's find...-print0 | cpio -0 instead. Maybe in my Copious Spare Time I'll look at making dump not descend into a specified list of directories. Do any dump gurus have a feel for how difficult that would be? : My other suggestion is tcp_wrappers. You should configure : admin so that it won't allow logins from ux1 at all. I've had the TCP wrappers installed since day one. At the moment, they let me in from ux1 but that's because I'm in the midst of tightening security. We started out "reasonably secure" but as we're growing we'd like to become "OK, do your damndest" secure. :-) Lotsa changes are needed to even begin to approach that; this dump thing is just one of them. : (I also hope that you have an anti-spoofing screen on your : router). H*ll yes! I didn't hook up the first T1 until I had access lists blocking all our network addresses. Saved my bacon a couple of times -- I've twice had massive IP spoof attacks. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 01:59:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24300 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from redwood.northcoast.com (redwood.northcoast.com [199.4.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24293 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: csmith@northcoast.com Received: (from csmith@localhost) by redwood.northcoast.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id BAA28353; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:59:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:59:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199607130859.BAA28353@redwood.northcoast.com> To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3.7 BETA X-Personal_name: Charles Smith Subject: New to FreeBSD. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just made the decission to go with FreeBSD over Linux. I was able to get version 2.0.5, 2 CD-rom set. Ok, I have made the boot disk, and when I tell it to use the Media of CDROM, it says that the device is not to be found. I just installed a new CD-rom drive, and it is using an Interface card, since it doesn't seem to like going through an EIDE card, as a slave or primary drive.. Ok, is there away around this, I have looked on other sites, and have seen a driver for the APADI (sp) IDE driver support. Will this work, not ready to try it yet. Thanks. -Charles Smith From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 02:32:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA26725 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 02:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dub-img-7.compuserve.com (dub-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.206.137]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA26716 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 02:32:13 -0700 (PDT) From: 106154.3334@compuserve.com Received: by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id FAA20403; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 05:31:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 05:31:19 -0400 Subject: Install FreeBSD on win95 To: all Message-ID: <199607130531_MC1-68C-BC5A@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I am preparing to install FreeBSD 2.1 on a win95 machine. I have used FreBSD for a while on other machines running win3.1. I was just woundering if any one had any information on problems/things to watch out for when installing. Thanks, Turlough. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 02:42:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27910 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 02:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27893; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 02:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA18861; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:37:29 +1000 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:37:29 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607130937.TAA18861@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, stefan@islandia.is Subject: Re: Problems with PPP and cyclades (Solved) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Thanks for that program Bruce, it showed us that dcd was still up even though >we had already hung up the line. Later I received a fix to modem.c in ppp: >>>I have experienced a similar problem. I solved it changing the CLOCAL flag >>>to HUPCL, in modem.c. >>> >>>diff modem.c ~wsj/src/ppp/modem.c >>>440c440 >>>< rstio.c_cflag = (CS8 | CREAD | CLOCAL | CCTS_OFLOW|CRTS_IFLOW); >>>--- >>>> rstio.c_cflag = (CS8 | CREAD | HUPCL | CCTS_OFLOW|CRTS_IFLOW); >>> >>>With this, the ppp program receives a SIGHUP when the modem lost the >>>carrier, and it terminates in the expected way. The CLOCAL probably doesn't matter, and HUPCL is only supposed to affect hangups at your end (it causes DTR to be dropped when the line is closed). This seems to be fixed in -current by setting HUPCL in some cases: if (!(mode & MODE_DEDICATED)) rstio.c_cflag |= HUPCL; 2.1R is also missing a `modemios = rstio;' statement. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 03:48:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02563 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02518 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA23692; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 06:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 06:48:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > Hm. The boot blocks may be getting confused, or the NCR is, or something. > :-) I wonder if you need to rebuild the boot blocks and hint it in the > right direction. I suppose so, but we're still dancing about trying to fix this problem. At this point I'm thinking of junking the SCSI altogether. -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 04:59:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07342 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 04:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA07318 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 04:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph (humprey@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph [165.220.8.15]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id EAA14940 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 04:27:35 -0700 Received: (from humprey@localhost) by ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA15802; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:33:10 +0800 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:33:09 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Humprey C. Sy" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: tun0 message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've setup PPP, and it seems to be working, but I always get these messages if I do not connect right away: z1 routed [45]: deleting route to interface tun0 (timed out) What causes this, and is there any way to prevent this message from constantly getting displayed? Humprey Sy De La Salle University Manila, Philippines From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 05:58:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA10212 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 05:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.netvision.net.il (mail.NetVision.net.il [194.90.1.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA10207 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 05:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netvision.net.il.netvision.net.il (ts004p6.pop4a.netvision.net.il [194.90.3.80]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00858 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:57:44 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:57:44 +0300 (IDT) Message-Id: <199607131257.PAA00858@mail.netvision.net.il> X-Sender: datcos@netvision.net.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: datcos@netvision.net.il (Igal Rubinstein) Subject: DosEmu Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! Can I run Linux DosEmu (Dos Emulator) Under FreeBSD 2.1 ?! My, best regards, Igal. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 07:02:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13929 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13923 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 07:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uf5Gv-000QcQC; Sat, 13 Jul 96 16:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA11723; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:46:13 +0200 Message-Id: <199607131246.OAA11723@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD CD Installation To: jimamy@io.org (Jim Amy) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:46:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <31E5B838.1177@io.org> from "Jim Amy" at Jul 11, 96 10:28:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Amy writes: > > Greetings, > > I'm a recent purchaser of the FreeBSD 2.1 from Walnut Creek CD-ROM. It > turns out that installing FreeBSD is far more difficult and involved > than I had anticipated. I have a few questions I hope you can help me > with. > > 1. On page 26 of the Running FreeBSD manual it says I need to jumper my > CD-ROM as a slave device. My CD is the only device on my secondary IDE > (ATAPI) interface and when I jumper it as a slave device the CD-ROM > drivers will not accept a slave without a master. That's right. If you *only* have a CD-ROM drive and no IDE disks, you're in trouble. Seriously, in that case the best thing is to buy an IDE disk to make master. In your case, though, you apparently *do* have an IDE drive as master on the the primary IDE interface. Just connect your CD-ROM drive as slave on the primary interface. If you already have a disk drive there, connect it to the secondary interface. I'm not sure, but I could imagine that it might even improve performance in this configuration. BTW, Gary's reply could have been construed to suggest that you can have more than one slave on an IDE interface. That's not the case: you can have exactly two configurations: - 1 drive only - 2 drives; one master, one slave. > In the process my CD-ROM drivers defaulted back to real device > drivers and I had to reload Windows 95 to get the CD-ROM as well as > my IDE Windows 95 drivers back. Bummer. We all love Microsoft. Now if at least the thing would allow you to make a tape backup... > Is it necessary to jumper the CD as a slave device and if so, > how can I do that without also having a master? Yes. You should have received documentation with your CD-ROM, but there's a good chance that you didn't. If that's the case, about your only chance is to find somebody who knows the jumpering for your drive. > 2. The other issue I did not realize when I ordered FreeBSD is the need > to load it in a partition within the first 500 MB of disk space (or 1024 > cylinders). Is this always the case with EIDE drives? I am using a > Western Digital AC31200 1.2MB HD. It's not a question of FreeBSD or the drive: it's the system BIOS. Look at the section on EIDE disks on pages 26-28 of the installation book for details. You might be lucky and have a BIOS which understand 64 heads, in which case you can move the end of the root partition up to 2 GB. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 07:02:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13946 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 07:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13930 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uf5Gw-000QcRC; Sat, 13 Jul 96 16:02 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA11785; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:11:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199607131311.PAA11785@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Installation Problems (2.0.5 + 2.1) To: tricotek!henry@uunet.uu.net (Henry Hojnacki) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199607121321.JAA14558@tricotek.> from "Henry Hojnacki" at Jul 12, 96 09:21:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Henry Hojnacki writes: > > Hello! > > I have sent this message to questions@FreeBSD.com, but have not received a response in > more than a week, so I am trying the bugs address. Please forgive me if I am being too > impatient. questions@freebsd.org is the correct address. I didn't see this message, so maybe you really did send it to questions@FreeBSD.com, but it should have bounced. > Having used the 2.0 version for several months now, I decided to upgrade to the 2.0.5 > version. During the installation procedure, I experience a lock up in the menu screen. > Here is my hardware setup, followed by a detailed description of the problem: > > 100 MHz Pentium > Intel TRITON chip set M/B > On board IDE controller (No IDE Hard Drive, floppy only) > NCR53C810 SCSI HBA > 1GB SCSI Hard Drive > 32MB memory > Diamiond Stealth 65 Video > 17" Monitor > SoundBlaster16 The only thing I'm not sure about there is the SCSI host adaptor. But that doesn't seem to be the problem. > Firstly, I have successfully intalled 2.0, and am currently using this with X11R6 > from XFree86. No major problems here. I created the boot floppy for 2.0.5 from the > Walnut Creek CDROM. When I attempt to boot from it, it goes thru the normal boot > procedure, but when the install menu should come up, nothing happens. I have toggled > to the debug screen via Alt-F2, and see no surprinsing messages. When I toggle back > via Alt-F1, the install menu miracuously appears, however it does not respond to any > key strokes. If I toggle to the debug screen and back again, the screen appears > updated. > > I borrowed a 2.1 release CD from a friend, and wrote a new boot floppy. Same problem > happens. I have swapped out cards one by one and in all combinations. The only time > I was able to get a normally responding install menu is if I removed the NCR SCSI card. > The install menu worked just fine. Of course, not having a SCSI card means no hard > drive in my case, so the install procedure is somewhat moot. > > I then tried an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card. Things got worse. The install menu never > appeared at all! Even after toggling to the debug screen and back did nothing. It > appears that the boot procedure did complete successfully. > > I have verified the integrity of the boot floppy by trying it on another machine. The > major difference of this machine was that an IDE drive was present, and no SCSI devices > were attached. > > Can this be some factor caused by the on board IDE controller? Has anyone seen this > before? Will I ever be able to upgrade from 2.0? Any advice suggestion, help etc > would be much appreciated. Are you installing this on the same machine where 2.0 is already running? If so, that would eliminate the questions of host adapter compatibility (I don't know much about the NCR 810, and I seem to recall that there were once problems with the Adaptec 2940). The other question is: how did you create the boot floppy? By far the safest way is under FreeBSD or another UNIX system: dd if=/cdrom/floppies/boot.flp of=/dev/rfd0c bs=36b If this still doesn't work, but you can mount the CD-ROM under 2.0, you could consider copying the files across. There are a couple of gotchas, though: in particular, don't copy the files in /usr/lib. Extract them into a different subdirectory of /usr instead, and then rename the directories. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:08:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19479 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19468; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-8.ime.net [206.231.148.137]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28371; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7BB9F.6CAB@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:07:11 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kelly CC: rich@oester.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: adaptec 154X support References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Kelly wrote: > > On 18:32:45 "G.R.Gircys" wrote: > > >have a fine ole dx2/66 board with adaptec 1542B (older style with > >jumpers) - worked flawlessly with bsdi for 2 years - now moving to > >freebsd and find that during 2.1 install (usually while copying floppy > >resident files) system either hangs or panics (virt screen 2 messages > >about scsi bus locked). > > > >so i try a newer card - 1542 C/CF series - works great. > > > >does freebsd support the older adaptec 154X A/B? in my caseseems the > >answer is no. > > Have you fiddled with bus timing on the Adaptec cards? > > Along the same lines I have a 486DX33 that has worked fairly well with > SCSI for several years. Until the first of the year. It started trashing > files that were not being written to. Tried BIOS settings. Tried the > Adaptec 1542CF settings. Tried another 1542CF, disk drives, UltraStor > 14F, even finally got desparate and tried MS-DOS. More or less the same > with everything, while everyting worked on other systems. > > Decided the MB was broken. Pulled the SCSI card and its current uptime > is about 75 days now. I hate PC's. Wish it would break good and proper > so I could put it out of my misery. That box really nees a P166 in it, > but then I might feel like the 640x480 256k VGA card would need to be > replaced... :-) > I don't know if this has anything to do with your alls troubles but maybe it'll be good info for somebody. I have several Adaptec 1542CF's, For each and every one of them I have had troubles with external drives. Never used one with internal drives, So don't know about that. The solution, Call Adaptec techsup they'll send ya a special external cable and the troubles dissapear! For FREE at that! I don't pretend to understand the internals of SCSI cabling, So I have no idea whats special about the cable, Just that it has solved my problem each time! I *belive* it has something to do with a tolarance range of something in the SCSI cable spec, It's -xx to +xx and the 1542 falls out of this range.. ?? Not really sure though. They did explain it to me ~4 years ago. I'm sure if those fried brain cells got tickled enough I would remember. When I bought my last 1542CF (less then a year ago) I did call and recieved yet another free cable. I wouldn't mind knowing/remembering. I'll posts whatever is written on the cables if anyone wants it. I more then likly have the paper work from them as well. My experances with this problem have _NOT_ been in FreeBSD, But other OS's/NOS's. MS-Dog and Netware to be exact! I do have a 1542CF in my FreeBSD 2.1r box running a 3501B SCSI CD and it works flawlessly. No SCSI HD's though.. (Yet) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:24:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA23323 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA23306 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-8.ime.net [206.231.148.137]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA29422; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7BF62.5C7@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:23:14 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: Kent Vander Velden , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Kent Vander Velden wrote: > > > Is the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 PCI 100Mbps ethernet card support > > with either -stable or -current? > > Not yet. > > > In another box I have a cheap NE2100 compatible card. The kernel on > > that box reports CRC check error VERY often and Framming error once in a > > while. I have commented out most of the error reporting mechanism from the > > kernel to avoid /var from filling up with these errors. Is there a > > better solution? Is this due to the type of ethernet card? > > NE2100? Hm. I have a cheap NE2000 that works great. My guess would > either be that either the cabling or the card is bad. > > Or your network is rather noisy. > I suspect bad cabling. What driver are you using on the ne2100?? I see in LINT that the 2100 is listed under lnc, Isn't the 2100 also 2000 compat?? My FreeBSD box has two cards using ed. Novell NE1000 (for IPX playing) and a Who Knows brand NE2000 compat for real use. Works flawlessly. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:46:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA29522 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.nconnect.net (root@atlantis.nconnect.net [206.54.227.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA29474 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default ([206.54.227.194]) by atlantis.nconnect.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA16278 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 05:40:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31E7C467.3A51@nconnect.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:44:40 -0500 From: Randy DuCharme X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: TEAC CD55A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there (or will there be) support for the TEAC CD55A CD-ROM drive? I can't find it in the hardware listings, or in LINT ( or GENERIC ) and it isn't probed (to the best of my knowlege) when booting generic. Being a newbie to FBSD however, many things still seem to get past me :). Thanks Randy From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:48:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00507 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00486 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA03486; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:48:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:48:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Igal Rubinstein cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DosEmu In-Reply-To: <199607131257.PAA00858@mail.netvision.net.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Igal Rubinstein wrote: > Can I run Linux DosEmu (Dos Emulator) Under FreeBSD 2.1 ?! There are some hacks to get it working. I believe it's in ports, so it should come in cleanly. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:49:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00816 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00796 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-8.ime.net [206.231.148.137]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00988; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7C563.53FA@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:48:51 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Logging boot scripts. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > Is it possiable to log the output of the bootup scripts. > > If so how? > > Preferably controllable. ie: on and off.. > > Which? I stated 'bootup scripts', Not kernel messages. ie: rc, rc.local, netstart, etc... ... Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:50:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01205 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01180 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA03496; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:51:06 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:51:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Matthew Stein cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Matthew Stein wrote: > > Hm. The boot blocks may be getting confused, or the NCR is, or something. > > :-) I wonder if you need to rebuild the boot blocks and hint it in the > > right direction. > > I suppose so, but we're still dancing about trying to fix this problem. > At this point I'm thinking of junking the SCSI altogether. Let's see: you have the 53c810. So you must have system BIOS support, ie a ASUS motherboard. Is that true? (I guess you wouldn't be able to boot from it if you didn't....) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:55:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02835 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02801 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA03513; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:56:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Chrysler cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Logging boot scripts. In-Reply-To: <31E7C563.53FA@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > Which? > > I stated 'bootup scripts', Not kernel messages. > ie: rc, rc.local, netstart, etc... ... That's what I wanted to know. Hit ScrollLock and scroll back. You can look at the entire boot sequence (all the way back to the Boot: prompt!) this way. It is limited so if you use the console a lot it may scroll off. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:53:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02132 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02102 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA03503; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:53:57 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: 106154.3334@compuserve.com cc: all Subject: Re: Install FreeBSD on win95 In-Reply-To: <199607130531_MC1-68C-BC5A@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996 106154.3334@compuserve.com wrote: > I am preparing to install FreeBSD 2.1 on a win95 machine. I have used > FreBSD for a while on other machines running win3.1. I was just woundering > if any one had any information on problems/things to watch out for when > installing. If you reinstall Win95, it'll blow away the boot sector, thus the boot manager. Running /tools/bootinst.exe off the CD will restore it, or it's on ftp.freebsd.org in /pub/FreeBSD/tools. Also, most BIOSs won't let you boot anything past the 1024 cylinder mark, so make sure the root partition is below that. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 08:59:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04072 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04035 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA03523; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:00:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:00:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: csmith@northcoast.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New to FreeBSD. In-Reply-To: <199607130859.BAA28353@redwood.northcoast.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996 csmith@northcoast.com wrote: > I just made the decission to go with FreeBSD over Linux. Good choice. > I was able to get version 2.0.5, 2 CD-rom set. Ack. If you can hang on for a couple of weeks 2.1.5 will be out. > Ok, I have made the boot > disk, and when I tell it to use the Media of CDROM, it says that the > device is not to be found. I just installed a new CD-rom drive, and it > is using an Interface card, since it doesn't seem to like going through > an EIDE card, as a slave or primary drive.. Ok, is there away around > this, I have looked on other sites, and have seen a driver for the APADI > (sp) IDE driver support. Will this work, not ready to try it yet. 2.0.5 did not support ATAPI CDs. 2.1.0 and later does. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 09:04:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05969 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05933 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03875; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607131543.LAA03875@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Install FreeBSD on win95 To: 106154.3334@compuserve.com Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:43:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <199607130531_MC1-68C-BC5A@compuserve.com> from "106154.3334@compuserve.com" at "Jul 13, 96 05:31:19 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 106154.3334@compuserve.com wrote... > Hi there, > I am preparing to install FreeBSD 2.1 on a win95 machine. I have used > FreBSD for a while on other machines running win3.1. I was just woundering > if any one had any information on problems/things to watch out for when > installing. > > Thanks, > Turlough. > No, nothing unusual. FreeBSD will be able to see the Win95 partition, as per a DOS partition, but you won't see long file names. If you have to re-install Win95 for any reason, it will overwrite the boot manager with its own boot sector. You can get around this by reloading booteasy. Good luck, John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 09:09:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07261 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07237 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-8.ime.net [206.231.148.137]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA02152; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7CA0C.4832@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:08:44 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: mtoole@hidesert.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Executables References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Jul 1996 mtoole@hidesert.com wrote: > > > When I go into the /usr/games directory where the games I got when I > > Installed the OS FreeBSD, it tells me "Command Not Found". Do you have > > any idea why its doing this? > > /usr/games isn't in your path. Try running the games by prepending ./ to > the name. > > So to run fortune: > > cd /usr/games > ./fortune > > I thought it's in there by default though. > Doug, He/She is probably logged in as root. It's not in roots path, Just users. mtoole, (Sorry didn't see your name) Login to your user account and then su to root if you need root previlages. Don't login as root all the time! Mucho dangerous! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 09:11:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07497 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07465 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA03537; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:11:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:11:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Humprey C. Sy" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tun0 message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Humprey C. Sy wrote: > I've setup PPP, and it seems to be working, but I always get these > messages if I do not connect right away: > > z1 routed [45]: deleting route to interface tun0 (timed out) > > What causes this, and is there any way to prevent this message from > constantly getting displayed? Routed is telling you something. That something should be "don't run me unless you have to." :-) It's a normal message, but unless you have to, don't run routed; disable it in /etc/sysconfig. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 09:14:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08391 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08381 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA03553; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:15:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Euclides cc: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: WWW-Counter... In-Reply-To: <31E27CFB.589D@cr-df.rnp.gov.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Euclides wrote: > Does anyone here have a cool WWW-counter ? We have one called Count running on our server (http://resnet.uoregon.edu). I see a port for one called "wwwcount" in ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/ports-current/net/wwwcount. I can get you info on Count if you're interested. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 09:26:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA12298 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12263 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA24085; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:26:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help : kernel thinks it's on sd1, when actually sd0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > Let's see: you have the 53c810. So you must have system BIOS support, > ie a ASUS motherboard. Is that true? Yes. It's an Asus P55-TP4XE, Pentium 133, with the latest BIOS and NCR SCSI BIOS support enabled. -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 10:06:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA04247 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04164 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-8.ime.net [206.231.148.137]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA05527; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7D76C.3BEE@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:05:48 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: Jim Amy , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD CD Installation References: <199607131246.OAA11723@allegro.lemis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey wrote: > > > BTW, Gary's reply could have been construed to suggest that you can > have more than one slave on an IDE interface. That's not the case: > you can have exactly two configurations: > > - 1 drive only > - 2 drives; one master, one slave. > If thats how it read, I am sorry. That was _not_ my meaning! No you cannot have TWO masters or TWO slaves on the same interface! One must be master the other must be slave! Lets see if I can clearify myself without makeing it worse. :) I know that the original question involved 1 HD and 1 ATAPI CD. So the working solution should be: wd0: HD master CD slave And rip the secondary IDE controller out. (What I would of done in the first place!) My questions now are: wd0: HD master HD slave wd1: CD master Does this work anyone? (not revelant to original question) Or MUST it be wd0: HD master CD slave wd1: HD master (Not revelant to original question) I am not sure but I belive I read here in -questions that as long as you do actually have a slave on wd0 that a ATAPI cd will work on wd1 as master. Am I wrong?? (Not revelant to original question) It only fails if you _don't_ have a slave on wd0 and try to hook up an ATAPI cd on wd1 as master. (Revelant to original question) Thus: wd0: HD master HD slave wd1: CD master Works?? (not revelant to original question) or wd0: HD master CD slave works. (known) (revelant to the original question) And wd0: HD master wd1: CD master fails. (known) (revelant to the original question) Is this in fact how it is with FreeBSD 2.1r??? I'm sure that 2.1.5 will have this solved??? I don't have an ATAPI cd (I use SCSI) and would like very much to clear this up in my own head so I don't confuse those that I am trying to assist.. Thaks all. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 10:13:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA07592 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07556 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-8.ime.net [206.231.148.137]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA05899; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7D8F5.2871@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:12:21 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Logging boot scripts. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > > Which? > > > > I stated 'bootup scripts', Not kernel messages. > > ie: rc, rc.local, netstart, etc... ... > > That's what I wanted to know. > > Hit ScrollLock and scroll back. > > You can look at the entire boot sequence (all the way back to the Boot: > prompt!) this way. It is limited so if you use the console a lot it may > scroll off. > Ah Hah.. Thats will do just dandy! Thanks Doug! Appreciate that. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 10:37:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22072 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22044 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-8.ime.net [206.231.148.137]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA07276 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7DEC9.1B15@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:37:13 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Programming for FreeBSD.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where is the proper place to ask Programming questions in/for FreeBSD?? -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 10:58:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00517 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br [143.106.13.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00512 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vazquez@localhost) by kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (8.7.5/8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1) id OAA00996; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:56:51 GMT From: Pedro A M Vazquez Message-Id: <199607131456.OAA00996@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br> Subject: Re: Gated GII To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:56:50 +0000 () Cc: vazquez@IQM.Unicamp.BR, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jul 12, 96 11:22:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White said: > > You'd have to look. > > I don't see anything in any of the gated manuals I've got (well, the only > one, the info from the O'Reilly TCP/IP book) and don't see any reference > to GII. > > I would guess it's a separate package from the straight gated distribution. > Hello Thanks for your answer. You need to add gii to the protocols in Config: protocols hello icmp rip ospf gii and recompile gated. It's working for me. Pedro From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 11:23:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA02669 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (jjal@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02661 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jjal@localhost) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id OAA03524; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:22:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:22:44 -0400 From: Joshua Lambert Message-Id: <199607131822.OAA03524@remus.rutgers.edu> To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk, jjal@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: GENERICNE Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thankyou very much!Rhsn\ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 11:43:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03592 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer14.u.washington.edu (durang@homer14.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03587 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer14.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA140668; Sat, 13 Jul 96 11:43:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Printer Daemon problems. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I want to begin by saying that I am new to FreeBSD and Unix, but I am fairly computer literate. I have installed FreeBSD a few times, and I think it's finally right. My first goal was to get the printer working, and already I am running into trouble. when I print using lpr, I get an error message. My job is spooled, but the daemon doesn't print it. When I type in "lpd", the printer comes alive, and my job prints. If I print again, I get the error again, and lpd makes it work again. This is not what I expected a "daemon" to do. All the files and directories needed see to be in order. here's the details, thanks in advance: /var/spool/lpd/hp500c/.seq 001 /var/spool/lpd/hp500c/cfA000 H Proot Jstdin C Lroot fdfA000 UdfA000 N /var/spool/lpd/hp500c/dfA000 !"#$% "#$%& #$%&' $%&'( %&'() The error message I get when I type "lptest 5 5 | lpd -Php500c" # lptest 5 5 |lpr -Php500c lpr: connect: No such file or directory jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. /usr/local/libexec/if-simple #!/bin/sh # # simple text input filter for lpd printf "\033&k2G" && /bin/cat && printf "\f" && exit 0 exit 2 /etc/printcap # @(#)printcap 5.3 (Berkeley) 6/30/90 hp500c|inkjet|lp|Hewlett Packard 500C color inkjet printer:\ :sh:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp500c:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/if-simple:\ :lf=/var/log/hp500c.log From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 11:45:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03762 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer14.u.washington.edu (durang@homer14.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03755 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer14.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA71044; Sat, 13 Jul 96 11:45:46 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:45:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Login at boot? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm new to unix and to FreeBSD. I just installed the system on half of my hard drive with the dual boot option. It seems to work fine. However, upon boot, I don't get a login prompt. Rather, I am just root from the get-go. This doesn't seem right to me. Furthermore, when I do log in, I get: NO LOGINS -- System going down at 16:00 What have I done to deserve this irrespect? thanks in advance. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 11:47:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03838 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03831 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-2.ime.net [206.231.148.131]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA11134 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7EF2F.4258@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:47:11 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Recursive grep. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone please show me an example using grep to search through files in a tree. ie: recursivly. I've read the grep man page, No luck, Tried piping various things into grep without success! Thanks all. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 11:54:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04223 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04216 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28895; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:48:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Gary Chrysler cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Logging boot scripts. In-Reply-To: <31E7D8F5.2871@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Doug White wrote: > > > > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > > > > Which? > > > > > > I stated 'bootup scripts', Not kernel messages. > > > ie: rc, rc.local, netstart, etc... ... > > > > That's what I wanted to know. > > > > Hit ScrollLock and scroll back. At some point in the process perhaps you could run script from one of the scripts. Why don't you try it and let us know the earliest point at which it works. Annelise > > > > You can look at the entire boot sequence (all the way back to the Boot: > > prompt!) this way. It is limited so if you use the console a lot it may > > scroll off. > > > > Ah Hah.. Thats will do just dandy! > Thanks Doug! Appreciate that. > > > -Enjoy > Gary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours > The Borg... Where minds meet > (207) 929-3848 > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 11:54:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04247 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04241 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28878; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:28:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: "Humprey C. Sy" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tun0 message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Humprey C. Sy wrote: > > > I've setup PPP, and it seems to be working, but I always get these > > messages if I do not connect right away: > > > > z1 routed [45]: deleting route to interface tun0 (timed out) > > > > What causes this, and is there any way to prevent this message from > > constantly getting displayed? > > Routed is telling you something. That something should be "don't run me > unless you have to." :-) It's a normal message, but unless you have to, > don't run routed; disable it in /etc/sysconfig. And why not run routed? Because it is not in my interest? Or whose? This advice is often given and never explained. I find that not running routed causes long delays in booting and also in running some programs. Annelise > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 12:05:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04835 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04830 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-2.ime.net [206.231.148.131]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA11979 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7F369.50A3@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:05:13 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: -questions list speed. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it normal for a message to take over an hour to make it's loop. Lets say I post a message to -questions, It's over an hour before I get my own message back on -questions. Is this normal. I would think it would be a couple minutes at most even though I am in Maine and FreeBSD.org is in Calif. (My home state) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 12:16:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA05284 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05273; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA27419; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:17:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: "Bryan K. Ogawa" cc: questions@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tip to improve print resolution w/ HP DeskJet 600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just gave this a try on my HP DeskJet 855c, it does print a lot better in Black & White but too bad color doesn't work..... Wonder when will Ghostscript start supporting the 600 and 800 series printers... Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 12:35:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06485 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06476 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ad02209; 13 Jul 96 20:35 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab22999; 13 Jul 96 1:23 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02543; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:32:29 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:32:29 GMT Message-Id: <199607122232.WAA02543@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: bala@cst.com.au CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607120405.OAA22708@skeg.cst.com.au> (message from Bala Periasamy on Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:05:55 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: Mounting NCPFS using NFS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Bala Periasamy writes: > > I am exporting this mount point to FreeBSD. But when I try to do a > mount of this mount from linux. It gets a permission denied. This is in the FAQ - basically, you must give the -P argument to mount. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 12:58:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07526 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07491 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-2.ime.net [206.231.148.131]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14752; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E7FF59.DDD@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:56:09 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Annelise Anderson CC: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Logging boot scripts. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > Doug White wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > > > > > > Which? > > > > > > > > I stated 'bootup scripts', Not kernel messages. > > > > ie: rc, rc.local, netstart, etc... ... > > > > > > That's what I wanted to know. > > > > > > Hit ScrollLock and scroll back. > > At some point in the process perhaps you could run script from one of > the scripts. Why don't you try it and let us know the earliest point > at which it works. > > Annelise I tried it after the mounts in rc, I was not very successfull. Someone with > Unix knowledge then I could surly get it to work. I'm sure I could if I tried harder. But what Doug passed along is Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again Doug. Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 13:21:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09064 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tenet.CS.Berkeley.EDU (root@tenet.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09058 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU (conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.103]) by tenet.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA26833; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:21:54 -0700 Received: from conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/1.3-tenet) with ESMTP id NAA16168; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:21:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199607132021.NAA16168@conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: tcg@ime.net cc: FreeBSD-Questions , bmah@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: Recursive grep. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:47:11 EDT." <31E7EF2F.4258@ime.net> From: bmah@cs.berkeley.edu (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-to: bmah@cs.berkeley.edu X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="===_0_Sat_Jul_13_13:19:49_PDT_1996" Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:21:51 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multipart MIME message. --===_0_Sat_Jul_13_13:19:49_PDT_1996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gary Chrysler writes: > Could someone please show me an example using grep to search > through files in a tree. ie: recursivly. > > I've read the grep man page, No luck, Tried piping various things > into grep without success! Gary-- I've used the following script for awhile. Ugly as sin, but it gets the job done (run it at the top of the tree you want to recursive grep through). Hope this helps... Bruce. --===_0_Sat_Jul_13_13:19:49_PDT_1996 Content-Type: application/x-script Content-Description: rgrep #!/bin/csh -f # $Id: rgrep,v 1.1 1992/07/04 18:34:15 bmah Exp bmah $ # # $Header: /db/users/bmah/bin/RCS/rgrep,v 1.1 1992/07/04 18:34:15 bmah Exp bmah $ # # rgrep # Bruce A. Mah (bmah@tenet.berkeley.edu) # # Recursive grep. # # $Log: rgrep,v $ # Revision 1.1 1992/07/04 18:34:15 bmah # rgrep won't try to grep directories now. # # Revision 1.0 1992/07/02 19:10:04 bmah # Initial revision # # if ($#argv == 2) then set noglob find . \! -type d -name $2 -exec grep $1 {} /dev/null ";" unset noglob else if ($#argv == 1) then set noglob find . \! -type d -exec grep $1 {} /dev/null ";" unset noglob else echo "usage: rgrep {target}" echo " rgrep {target} {filespec}" endif --===_0_Sat_Jul_13_13:19:49_PDT_1996-- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 13:29:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09597 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alaska.net (root@calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09592 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anc-p30-119.alaska.net by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19286; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:29:08 -0800 Message-Id: <31E6A756.3C7D@alaska.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:28:22 -0700 From: hmmm X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: snmp X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org//support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk what SNMP managers/agents & mib compilers are recommended for FreeBSD 2.1.5 ? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 13:34:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10024 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10018 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07726 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:32:55 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607132032.NAA07726@MediaCity.com> Subject: DataFlex accounting package To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to run the dataflex accounting package under -current. The software is compiled for SCO, and I am told by the sellers that people are running it under Linux SCO emulation. When I run the license setup program I get the message Unable to open console device << STATUS 28675 >> I'm guessing that the problem could be as simple as the program looking for a /dev/????? entry that I don't have. I am running the program from the console as root. Any ideas? -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 13:49:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA11079 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11070 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14583; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:49:10 GMT Message-Id: <199607132049.UAA14583@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA189550970; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:49:30 -0600 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:49:30 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: tcg@ime.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E7DEC9.1B15@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:37:13 -0400) Subject: Re: Programming for FreeBSD.. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: Gary> Where is the proper place to ask Programming questions Gary> in/for FreeBSD?? Right here at `questions@freebsd.org' ... it's a fine place. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 13:50:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA11193 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11150 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14585; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:50:01 GMT Message-Id: <199607132050.UAA14585@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA189591021; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:50:21 -0600 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:50:21 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: tcg@ime.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E7EF2F.4258@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:47:11 -0400) Subject: Re: Recursive grep. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 13:50:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA11246 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11236 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14591; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:50:42 GMT Message-Id: <199607132050.UAA14591@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA189621062; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:51:02 -0600 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:51:02 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: tcg@ime.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E7EF2F.4258@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:47:11 -0400) Subject: Re: Recursive grep. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: Gary> Could someone please show me an example using grep to search Gary> through files in a tree. ie: recursivly. find -type f | xargs grep /dev/null -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 14:37:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16422 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (root@[199.165.180.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16403 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA17615 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:36:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199607132136.RAA17615@spoon.beta.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: fxp0 driver... Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:36:48 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to test out the Intel EtherExpress Pro driver (fxp0). However, I'm not sure what line I should add to my config file. Any help is appreciated. -Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 15:13:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21831 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcsvax.riverdale.edu (riverdale.edu [205.232.92.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21822 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proteus ([207.77.25.109]) by rcsvax.riverdale.edu with SMTP; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E8214F.956@intercall.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:21:03 -0400 From: Tim Palmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3c590... X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook192.html#410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to get a 3c590 ethernet board to talk to my FreeBSD 2.1 (Walnut Creek CD-ROM) and having no luck. I've downloaded if_vx.c and if_vxreg.h from -current and referenced if_vc in my files.i386, but the kernel compile fails with 3 messages complaining about if_vx.c referencing an unknown "if_softc". So, my real question is: as a non C speaking person, should I not worry about making this 3c590 work just yet? Or did I just miss a simple step in installing the driver? Thanks all concerned! Tim Palmer From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 15:13:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21867 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21847 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-7.ime.net [206.231.148.136]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA21262; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E81F49.6B08@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:12:25 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmah@cs.berkeley.edu CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Recursive grep. References: <199607132021.NAA16168@conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Gary Chrysler writes: > > Could someone please show me an example using grep to search > > through files in a tree. ie: recursivly. > > > > I've read the grep man page, No luck, Tried piping various things > > into grep without success! > > Gary-- > > I've used the following script for awhile. Ugly as sin, but it gets > the job done (run it at the top of the tree you want to recursive grep > through). > > Hope this helps... > Thanks Bruce, But I can't extract the attachment. Netscape blows up! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 15:26:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22900 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22891 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-7.ime.net [206.231.148.136]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA21891; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E82260.63B2@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:25:36 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Kelly CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recursive grep. References: <199607132050.UAA14591@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly wrote: > > >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: > > Gary> Could someone please show me an example using grep to search > Gary> through files in a tree. ie: recursivly. > > find -type f | xargs grep /dev/null > Thanks Shawn, I'll give this a go. I did try something simular, But not the same. find | grep didn't work though.. :( Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 15:29:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23252 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net ([204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23237 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-7.ime.net [206.231.148.136]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA22045; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31E8232D.7362@ime.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:29:01 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Kelly CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recursive grep. References: <199607132050.UAA14591@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly wrote: > > >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: > > Gary> Could someone please show me an example using grep to search > Gary> through files in a tree. ie: recursivly. > > find -type f | xargs grep /dev/null Wooops, Sorry for the wrong name there Sean. Just slap me upside the ol'noggin.. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 15:59:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27129 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27110; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA03964; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:45:47 +1000 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:45:47 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607132245.IAA03964@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: Stephen.Couchman@imagenet.on.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, n_melhor@Telebit.COM Subject: Re: Jaz drive questions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >====== Message from Stephen Couchman 96.07.11 22:40 ====== > I have installed a Jaz drive as sd1 (SCSI id #2). I am > using an Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI host adapter. FreeBSD > does not seem to recognize the drive and produces the > following messages: > > (ahc0:2:0): "iomega jaz 1GB G.60" type 0 removable SCSI 2 > sd1(ahc0:2:0): Direct-Access > sd1(ahc0:2:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in > CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious > geometry 1021MB (2091050 512 byte sectors) This means that FreeBSD _did_ recognize the drive. Iomega apparently didn't bother to implement the SCSI mode sense command, so the driver can't determine anything about the number of heads or sectors/track on the disk (if any). The last line shows that it successfully determined the total number of sectors on the disk. This is sufficient for most operations (for everything except writing a partition table that can be used by the BIOS for booting). >=========================================================== >I just installed an IOMega parallel port Zip drive into my kernel. It's not >part of FreeBSD, I just found the PPA-3 driver on someone's web page >(Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr) -- who can't actively support it at this >time. >The instructions said that I'd get messages about ficticious geometry, >since it "can't be sensed". >I can still mount_msdos the drive on the 4th slice of the drive (sd0s4) >with a working DOS ZipDisk and see the contents. The instructions said to >fdisk-examine the drive to confirm which was the proper slice. Zip disks are sometimes (always?) preformatted with a normal DOS partition table with one partition in the 4th slot and an (empty for "blank") disks MSDOS file system in the partition. FreeBSD automatically constructs a suitable geometry by looking at the partition table. >I don't know about your other problems, since I'm new to FreeBSD and still >fooling around with the ZipDrive. Currently the probe at boot time takes 2 >minutes! I also haven't yet tried formatting it as a Unix disk. The long delay is probably for IDE drives that you don't have. Boot with -c and disable hardware that you don't have if it causes problems. Formatting as a FreeBSD file system disk is best done by leaving the preformatted partition table alone except for changing its type from MSDOS to FreeBSD. Then put a label and a file system on the partition. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 16:05:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27786 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27779 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ufDke-0001C1C; Sat, 13 Jul 96 19:05 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: rsh problem, 2.1-STABLE Date: 13 Jul 1996 19:05:24 -0400 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4s9a3k$qk8@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here's an output, somewhat shrunk: admin@admin: sh -x dodump + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive / . -print0 + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive /usr . -print0 + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 admin.cyberenet.net: Connection refused + rsh -n -l root admin /root/bin/make-archive /usr2 . -print0 + dd bs=32k of=/dev/nrst0 Note the `connection refused' after the second rsh. This occured on both the runs of this I attempted. Yes, you read it correctly; I am doing an rsh from admin to admin. It's a sleazy way to avoid having to write setuid scripts. :-) So, anyway, what's with this `connection refused'? This is a very lightly loaded machine, so I don't think it's kernel resource exhaustion. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 16:42:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02052 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xs1.simplex.nl (xs1.simplex.NL [193.78.46.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02041 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:42:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Organisation-1: Simplex Networking Amsterdam X (Inter)Network X-Organisation-2: Kruislaan 419-38a 1098 VA Amsterdam X Solutions & X-Organisation-3: tel:+31(20)-6932433 fax:+31(20)-6685486 X Access Provider Received: (from rob@localhost) by xs1.simplex.nl (8.7.5/8.7.3-RS) id BAA00567 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:41:31 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:41:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Rob Simons Message-Id: <199607132341.BAA00567@xs1.simplex.nl> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Boca BB2016 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm having some problems with my Boca Board BB2016 (I think that's the type, 16 port dumb serial). Almost every time I have to cold-boot the machine, which happens maybe three/four times a year, the Boca board seems to have lost about half of it's ports. Which ports are gone is seemingly random, but most that are gone are in the 1-8 region. Untill now I could solve this by waiting for about 15 minutes, and then performing a warm reboot. Today this didn't help anything. About 8 ports were gone, and no reboot helped anything. After a reboot there were still about 7-10 ports gone, in random order. I decided to take the box apart, put it in the fridge for a fast cooling, and when it was cold connected it again and rebooted. All of a sudden things seemed to work again. (No it's not my habbit to put inoperative equipment in the fridge, but it seemed like a fast way to cool it down ;-) Does the above problem sound familiar to someone, and if so, is there a way to make sure the board will work even when it's hot and the machine power cycles ? I'm running FreeBSD 2.1R on this machine. Thanks, - Rob. /*--------------------------------------------------------------*\ /* Rob Simons | rob@simplex.nl *\ /* ------------ | ------------- | -------- | ------- *\ /* Novell Netware System Operator | UNIX system operator *\ /*--------------------------------------------------------------*\ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 17:28:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA10316 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaos.structured.net (chaos.structured.net [204.157.7.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10307 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spacehog.structured.net (ppp103.structured.net [206.58.0.103]) by chaos.structured.net (8.7.5/Structured_V8) with SMTP id RAA04409 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31E7DD15.41C67EA6@structured.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:29:57 +0000 From: Justin Ashworth Organization: Structured Network Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-960612-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Changing bit depths Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How would I go about changing the default bit depth in X? I tried changing the 8 to 16 in /etc/XF86Config but startx balked because it couldn't find a definition for the default bit depth (8). Any ideas will be gratefully appreciated...thanks! _____________________________________________________ Justin Ashworth, justin@structured.net ___________ "Well, you can get away with mistakes as an engineer. You call it being creative." - Roy Langdon (Spacehog) _____________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 18:28:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16976 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16970 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11604; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:28:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09139; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607140128.SAA09139@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: Recursive grep. To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E8232D.7362@ime.net> from Gary Chrysler at "Jul 13, 96 06:29:01 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Gary Chrysler: > Sean Kelly wrote: > > > > >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: > > > > Gary> Could someone please show me an example using grep to search > > Gary> through files in a tree. ie: recursivly. > > > > find -type f | xargs grep /dev/null If some of you unix command wizards will indulge me: why is ``/dev/null'' at the end of the command?? gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 18:33:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17895 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soback.kornet.nm.kr (audience@soback.kornet.nm.kr [168.126.3.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17884 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from audience@localhost) by soback.kornet.nm.kr (8.6.12+hangul/8.6.9) id KAA15214; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:39:19 +0900 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:39:18 +0900 (KST) From: "JoongSub Lee (kornet)" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Set up lan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I know there is no relation between my question and this list. However, most of you are willing to help this question, I believe. The situation is I have only one registed ÷ip address and I want to connect Internet with computers in our lab. The below scheme is correct? And how to set up hp-ux when I want to use Internet in Lan A or B? Physically whole network is attached one hub. Is it possible to allocate B's gateway ip address to A's gateway? ie. I want to eliminate B's gateway. But I don't want to add B's gateway into A's gateway ip address. How to set up multihomed ip address with only one ethernet card in hp-ux ,linux and freebsd? Any help is much appreciated. Thanks! -------------registed ip address (2.1.1.2) -- hp-ux | |--------|------------|--------| 150.150.150.0 | Lan B | | Lan A | 150.150.1.0 | | | | |--------| |--------| netmask 255.255.255.0 Lan A's gateway (hp-ux) : 2.1.1.2 and 150.150.1.1 (multihomed) Lan B's gateway : 150.150.1.200 and 150.150.150.1 ( " " ) From Seoul, Sub From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 18:44:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA18935 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor (dslip10.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.8.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18930 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor (krondor [127.0.0.1]) by krondor (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02501 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 11:44:33 +1000 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 11:44:32 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@krondor To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: trying to install jdk-1.0.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am having trouble installing the jdk-1.0.2 port on my 2.1R system. I keep getting the following when I do a make install: Checksums OK. ===> Installing for jdk-1.0.2 test -d /usr/local/share/java/lib || mkdir -p /usr/local/share/java/lib install -c -m 644 -o bin -g bin java/COPYRIGHT /usr/local/share/java install: /usr/local/share/java/COPYRIGHT: Bad address *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. any suggestions? thanks in advance Carey Nairn From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 18:46:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19144 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19135 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01075; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:46:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:46:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Chrysler cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: -questions list speed. In-Reply-To: <31E7F369.50A3@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Is it normal for a message to take over an hour to make it's loop. Hm. I don't usually look at the timestamp on when my messages come back, but they usually start coming in while I'm still reading mail, so I'd say I get 15 minutes loop time if that. > Lets say I post a message to -questions, It's over an hour before > I get my own message back on -questions. Is this normal. > I would think it would be a couple minutes at most even though I > am in Maine and FreeBSD.org is in Calif. (My home state) Depends on load on the mail server and the intervening distribution systems. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 18:47:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19234 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19227 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01082; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:47:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:47:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Tim Palmer cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3c590... In-Reply-To: <31E8214F.956@intercall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Tim Palmer wrote: > I'm trying to get a 3c590 ethernet board to talk to my FreeBSD > 2.1 (Walnut Creek CD-ROM) and having no luck. I've downloaded if_vx.c > and if_vxreg.h from -current and referenced if_vc in my files.i386, but > the kernel compile fails with 3 messages complaining about if_vx.c > referencing an unknown "if_softc". So, my real question is: as a non C > speaking person, should I not worry about making this 3c590 work just > yet? Or did I just miss a simple step in installing the driver? Trying to back-port it to 2.1-R wouldn't be such a great idea. Just hang on for the 2.1.5-RELEASE; it includes the 3c590 support, I believe. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 18:48:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19357 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19352 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01089; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:48:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:48:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Justin Ashworth cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing bit depths In-Reply-To: <31E7DD15.41C67EA6@structured.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Justin Ashworth wrote: > How would I go about changing the default bit depth in X? I tried > changing the 8 to 16 in /etc/XF86Config but startx balked because it > couldn't find a definition for the default bit depth (8). > > Any ideas will be gratefully appreciated...thanks! Edit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers and put "-bpp 16" on the command line. It'll require superuser priv's. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 18:58:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20561 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20552 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01124; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:58:06 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:58:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ken Marsh cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Login at boot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Ken Marsh wrote: > I'm new to unix and to FreeBSD. I just installed the system on half of my > hard drive with the dual boot option. It seems to work fine. However, upon > boot, I don't get a login prompt. Rather, I am just root from the get-go. > This doesn't seem right to me. Furthermore, when I do log in, I get: > > NO LOGINS -- System going down at 16:00 Somehow /etc/nologin got dropped and you need to remove it. Boot to single user mode (with -s) and delete it. Did you turn the machine off when running shutdown at any point? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 18:59:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20701 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20668 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA02544; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607140157.SAA02544@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: Tim Palmer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c590... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:47:00 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:57:48 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Tim Palmer wrote: > >> I'm trying to get a 3c590 ethernet board to talk to my FreeBSD >> 2.1 (Walnut Creek CD-ROM) and having no luck. I've downloaded if_vx.c >> and if_vxreg.h from -current and referenced if_vc in my files.i386, but >> the kernel compile fails with 3 messages complaining about if_vx.c >> referencing an unknown "if_softc". So, my real question is: as a non C >> speaking person, should I not worry about making this 3c590 work just >> yet? Or did I just miss a simple step in installing the driver? > >Trying to back-port it to 2.1-R wouldn't be such a great idea. Just hang >on for the 2.1.5-RELEASE; it includes the 3c590 support, I believe. Err, actually, no, it doesn't. We should probably have brought it in before the code freeze. :-( -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 19:03:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21122 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21109 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA01153; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:03:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Randy DuCharme cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TEAC CD55A In-Reply-To: <31E7C467.3A51@nconnect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Randy DuCharme wrote: > Is there (or will there be) support for the TEAC CD55A CD-ROM drive? Nope. Teac won't release the specs. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 19:05:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21372 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu ([128.223.186.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21360 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA01164; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:05:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:05:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Annelise Anderson cc: "Humprey C. Sy" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tun0 message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > Routed is telling you something. That something should be "don't run me > > unless you have to." :-) It's a normal message, but unless you have to, > > don't run routed; disable it in /etc/sysconfig. > > And why not run routed? Because it is not in my interest? Or whose? > This advice is often given and never explained. I find that not > running routed causes long delays in booting and also in running > some programs. Then you need to remove references to the ${hostname} in /etc/sysconfig and replace them with your IP. And make sure your routing table setup in sysconfig is right too. Problem with routed is that if your router goes bonkers then you can kiss your default route goodbye. I got bit by it once and stopped using it right then and there. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 19:12:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA22029 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA22004 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net (cola72.scsn.net [206.25.247.72]) by rosie.scsn.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13529) with ESMTP id AAA182; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:14:49 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA01765; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:11:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199607140211.WAA01765@rhiannon.scsn.net> Subject: Re: Changing bit depths To: justin@structured.net (Justin Ashworth) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E7DD15.41C67EA6@structured.net> from Justin Ashworth at "Jul 13, 96 05:29:57 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How would I go about changing the default bit depth in X? I tried > changing the 8 to 16 in /etc/XF86Config but startx balked because it > couldn't find a definition for the default bit depth (8). > > Any ideas will be gratefully appreciated...thanks! echo 'X -bpp 16 &' >> ~/.xserverrc From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 19:08:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21740 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.infi.net (pa1dsp10.dc.infi.net [204.117.149.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21729 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ron@localhost) by localhost.infi.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00642; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:14:41 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:14:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Steele X-Sender: ron@localhost To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted In-Reply-To: <199607102332.QAA27717@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > If the answer is "no" for any of these (and I know it is), then it's > > > not a sufficient soloution. > > > > Maybe for you it's not. For normal humans it would be. > > Normal human consider it "OK" to run Microsoft products. Normal > humans are wrong. > Really, it's not my fault. They make me run Win95. It's not too bad, the reset button is within easy reach, and the machine is fast enough to be able to run eXceed (in other words, very fast!). I have to say I am willing to be pragmatic about the system admin tools things. If libss does 90% of the ideal that's a lot better than most software does. I see it sitting there in /usr/lib, but what is it exactly? Is there any doc? Ron Steele (Who just had to ftp his mail file from his ISP because POP couldn't handle the thousand or so null's at the beginning of his mail file!) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 19:29:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA23595 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23581 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15582; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:28:59 GMT Message-Id: <199607140228.CAA15582@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA195221361; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:29:21 -0600 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:29:21 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: tcg@ime.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31E82260.63B2@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:25:36 -0400) Subject: Re: Recursive grep. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: Gary> Thanks Shawn [sic], I'll give this a go. I did try something Gary> simular, But not the same. find | grep Gary> didn't work though.. :( An easy mistake to make ... I still leave out the `xargs' quite a lot. Good luck. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 19:35:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA24586 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24567 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15751; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:35:47 GMT Message-Id: <199607140235.CAA15751@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA195361768; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:36:08 -0600 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:36:08 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: kline@tera.com Cc: tcg@ime.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607140128.SAA09139@athena.tera.com> (message from Gary Kline on Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:28:33 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Recursive grep. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Kline writes: Gary> If some of you unix command wizards will Gary> indulge me: why is ``/dev/null'' at the end of the command?? I'm no wizard, but I'll indulge: Grep with multiple filenames on its command line will print each line that matches the pattern from each file *prepended with the file name*. If you invoke grep with just one file name, grep prints the matching lines *without any filename*. Makes sense, right? After all, if you type grep * you want to see which files contained the . If you type grep foobar you already know what file you're working with. Well, there's an off-chance that xargs will execute grep with just one filename. Xargs is working along reading a bunch of files and building up huge command lines and executing grep. But the last command line was large enough so there's just one file left ... so xargs executes grep And if the matches a line in , you'll see the matching lines but won't have any idea in which file they matched! But you want to see which file it was that had the pattern---so throw a /dev/null on there and grep will always have at least two filenames to play with---thereby forcing it to prepend the name of the file in front of each matching line. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 19:49:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26332 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26316 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa13871; 14 Jul 96 3:49 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa23222; 13 Jul 96 1:26 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02559; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:42:11 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:42:11 GMT Message-Id: <199607122242.WAA02559@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com CC: zounds@innosoft.com, root@synwork.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <87ivbuur3a.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> (message from Zach Heilig on 11 Jul 1996 21:45:45 -0500) Subject: Re: Mouse Outside of X Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Is there a way to use my mouse outside of X. It would be nice to be able > > > to cut/copy/paste in my shell. I know when I ran Linux, mouse was > > > available from the shell. TIA > > I noticed in a different reply that this is supposed to go into 2.2. > Will the mouse give xterm-like events, so my emacs menu's will work > :-) or would that be impossible? (I am currently unable to run X, it > has something to do with disk space, and non-VGA display hardware).. Here's the original announcement from the freebsd-current mailing list. There was quite a lot of discussion about this - if you want any more details, the archive for that list is probably the best place to look. Subject: Syscons CUT&PASTE functionality added... To: current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD current) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:54:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: sos@freebsd.org Reply-to: sos@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just put in the last bits to get CUT&PASTE to work in syscons. This now allow one to C&P between the consoles using the mouse to select the needed text. For this to work, run the moused daemon with the prober parameters specifying mousetype & port. Then on the console where this feature is needed just say vidcontrol -m on, and a mousepointer will show up on the screen. Left button cuts & right button paste. I'd like to hear how this works out with different mousetypes and especially with different display hardware. Please note this works only on ega's and above, as the mousepointer is done by reprogramming the charset, giving the illusion that a "real" graphic mousepointer is used. There still need to be implemented a prober eventhandling mechanism but thats still on the drawingboard. When that is done, applications can start using this feature as well (libdialog comes to mind)... Have fun... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 20:13:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29172 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexgen.ampr.org (max12-92.HiWAAY.net [206.104.16.92]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29167 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by nexgen.ampr.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA09804; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:13:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.4-prerelease [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199607140128.SAA09139@athena.tera.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:10:03 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Amateur Radio N4HHE, Madison, AL. From: David Kelly To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: Recursive grep. Cc: tcg@ime.net, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 23:28:33 Gary Kline wrote: >>According to Gary Chrysler: >> Sean Kelly wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: >> > >> > Gary> Could someone please show me an example using grep to search >> > Gary> through files in a tree. ie: recursivly. >> > >> > find -type f | xargs grep /dev/null > > If some of you unix command wizards will indulge > me: why is ``/dev/null'' at the end of the > command?? I dunno, but I'm not a Unix wizard. :-) I've always used with success: find -type f -exec grep -l {} \; usually use "grep -il ..." but you get the idea. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 20:58:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04054 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from io.org (io.org [198.133.36.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA04024 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 486-hot-rod.net4.io.org (486-hot-rod.net4.io.org [199.166.239.214]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA18891; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:57:30 -0400 Received: by 486-hot-rod.net4.io.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BB7116.F3060DA0@486-hot-rod.net4.io.org>; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:56:46 -0400 Message-ID: <01BB7116.F3060DA0@486-hot-rod.net4.io.org> From: James B Amy To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" , "'FreeBSD'" , "'tcg@ime.net'" Subject: RE: FreeBSD CD Installation Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:58:41 -0400 Encoding: 46 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary, My questions now are: wd0: HD master HD slave wd1: CD master Does this work anyone? (not revelant to original question) Glad you asked. It is relevant because this is the setup I currently have and would like to be able to use! Or MUST it be wd0: HD master CD slave wd1: HD master (Not revelant to original question) This is a possible reconfiguration for me however, I was under the impression that having an ATAPI device connected to the same IDE channel as a HD affected the performance of the HD. Apparently, the HD is forced to wait for CD-ROM commands to complete and vice versa, thus slowing things down. It is always recommended that a CD-ROM drive be connected to a secondary IDE channel, while the primary channel be used by the HDs. I am not sure but I belive I read here in -questions that as long as you do actually have a slave on wd0 that a ATAPI cd will work on wd1 as master. Am I wrong?? (Not revelant to original question) Again, very relevant to my situation and I hope it does work! But that is not what the installation manual implies. Apparently the CD-ROM must be configured as slave, therefore I either have to put the CD-ROM on the primary channel along with one of my HDs or, I have to connect another IDE device to my secondary channel as master. Either way, performance is affected. Is FreeBSD working on this CD-ROM master/slave problem? Jim jimamy@io.org ************************************************************************* Jim Amy jimamy@io.org To know life's purpose, http://www.io.org/~jimamy/ One must know life's Creator! Fax: (905) 640-2561 ************************************************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 21:12:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05764 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (jjal@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05757 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jjal@localhost) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id AAA18780 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 00:12:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 00:12:20 -0400 From: Joshua Lambert Message-Id: <199607140412.AAA18780@remus.rutgers.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How would I o about setting a DNS server or something using PPP? (the PPPGow p[rogram that came with SNAP july 27? I have a problem connecting. and ataing connevctd.NSNAP NAP NS Sorry, and staying connected. It hangs sometimes. .st From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 21:18:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05989 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA05982 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA12985; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607140417.WAA12985@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wd0: interrupt timeout: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960713220150.0067aab4@masternet.it> References: <2.2.32.19960713220150.0067aab4@masternet.it> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I often receive this message on my laptop : > > wd0: interrupt timeout: > wd0: status 58 error 0 > > This happens even if the power management of the laptop is turned off and it > isn't powered by batteries.... > > What's happen ? It's an hardware problem ? I see this *very* occasionall8y on my laptop as well, especially when I beat on the disk hard. A couple of times it's completely hung the machine, but most of the time it keeps going. I suspect the disk is getting too warm and has a 'mini-hardware' failure that it recovers from. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 21:57:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA07931 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piccolo.cco.caltech.edu (thankhuu@piccolo.cco.caltech.edu [131.215.48.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA07926 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by piccolo.cco.caltech.edu (8.6.12/DEI:4.45) id VAA29844; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:56:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:56:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Thanh Khuu X-Sender: thankhuu@piccolo To: Tim Vanderhoek cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: installation update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk So it WAS my ATI Mach64 that was causing the blanking of the screen. So I disabled si0-3 and it installed. But as James Raynard told me, there is a bug in the 2.1 boot installation and it didn't boot correctly. So I manually installed boot.bin and that worked too. However, when I chose FreeBSD it gave me a panic: cannot mount root or something to that extent. What now? By the way, when I boot it gives me the same boot screen as when i did from the floppy to install it and I have to use the -c option again to disable everything again. Do I have to do that everytime I boot? I certainly hope not. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 22:30:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA09956 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tenet.CS.Berkeley.EDU (root@tenet.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA09944 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU (conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.103]) by tenet.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA28736; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:30:25 -0700 Received: from conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/1.3-tenet) with ESMTP id WAA16832; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:30:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199607140530.WAA16832@conviction.CS.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: tcg@ime.net cc: bmah@cs.berkeley.edu, FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Recursive grep. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:12:25 EDT." <31E81F49.6B08@ime.net> From: bmah@cs.berkeley.edu (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-to: bmah@cs.berkeley.edu X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:30:22 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler writes: > Thanks Bruce, But I can't extract the attachment. Netscape blows up! OK, we'll do it the old-fashioned way. :-) (Kind of a moot point now, since this solution isn't significantly different than another one posted, but just for follow-through...) Bruce. ----- #!/bin/csh -f # $Id: rgrep,v 1.1 1992/07/04 18:34:15 bmah Exp bmah $ # # $Header: /db/users/bmah/bin/RCS/rgrep,v 1.1 1992/07/04 18:34:15 bmah Exp bmah $ # # rgrep # Bruce A. Mah (bmah@tenet.berkeley.edu) # # Recursive grep. # # $Log: rgrep,v $ # Revision 1.1 1992/07/04 18:34:15 bmah # rgrep won't try to grep directories now. # # Revision 1.0 1992/07/02 19:10:04 bmah # Initial revision # # if ($#argv == 2) then set noglob find . \! -type d -name $2 -exec grep $1 {} /dev/null ";" unset noglob else if ($#argv == 1) then set noglob find . \! -type d -exec grep $1 {} /dev/null ";" unset noglob else echo "usage: rgrep {target}" echo " rgrep {target} {filespec}" endif From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 23:06:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA14150 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remus.rutgers.edu (jjal@remus.rutgers.edu [128.6.13.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14141 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jjal@localhost) by remus.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id CAA24694 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:06:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:06:54 -0400 From: Joshua Lambert Message-Id: <199607140606.CAA24694@remus.rutgers.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: MSDOS file systems.s Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How would I go about mounting a msdos filesystem on HD 0 Partition 1.on-a I have figured out how to mount a floppy but what is he device name for theave HD? BTW, how can I use the handbook? It's on my HD... I can't access it. It says permission denied. And I'm using root.' thanks./ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 23:39:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA18295 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA18290 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa06156; 14 Jul 96 7:39 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ac23109; 13 Jul 96 1:24 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02520; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:21:45 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:21:45 GMT Message-Id: <199607122221.WAA02520@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: marc@cyberswinger.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31E5A9C0.712B@cyberswinger.com> (message from marc on Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:26:24 -0700) Subject: Re: ISIS-freeWAIS installation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> marc writes: > I've been having problems getting the clients to work after compiling > free-WAIS-0.5 (not able to create socket connection when using waisq, > no response from waisserver), and am looking for any suggestions/tips > on what might have caused this. Was the WAIS server running? Are the files it needs in the place it expects to find them? > The waisq/waisserver clients did work at first, but the sockets problem > arrived and I have had no luck since. Hmm. Maybe a case of the TIME_WAIT problem? (If you close a connection to a server, it will not accept another connection from a client with the same port/IP number combo for a few minutes). (*) > I just downloaded the ISIS-freeWAIS-0.5-FreeBSD package but notice that > there are no Makefiles for FreeBSD (v 2.1). Same problem for > free-WAIS-0.5 also. What Makefile should I use? Is bsdi safe? As a rule of thumb, if a program doesn't directly support FreeBSD, its support for NetBSD, BSDI or BSD4.4 (or even BSD4.3) is a good place to start. You will probably find it useful to read the Handbook entry on how to prepare a port (even if you're not thinking of submitting your work as an actual port, there are some useful tips there). (*) Warning - slightly over-simplistic explanation -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 13 23:49:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19834 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (root@smtp1.erols.com [205.252.116.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA19820 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ZENITH486SX25 (as20s32.erols.com [206.161.171.32]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA25697; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607140649.CAA25697@smtp1.erols.com> X-Sender: ellison4@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: ellison4 Subject: 96071401 ; FreeBSD v2.1 w/CR-562 CDROM Installation Cc: kgraham@ahoynet.com Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have tried installing FreeBSD verion 2.1 by using install.bat, makeflp.bat, inst_ide.bat and atapiflp.bat only to have one of two results. The first result is that it uses the existing kernel with the matcdc0 (matsushita/panasonic-Soundblaster) at the preset address of 230 and it is not found. The other outcome is just as frustrating, if I invoke the -c option of fbsdboot (fbsdboot -c -D kernel or kernel.ide) for user defineable peripherals and set the address correctly, the line for matcdc0 states Panasonic / by FDIV ... rather than the not found statement, but the Welcome to FreeBSD installation screen comes up frozen. The system is locked on that screen. I have even tried only defining the floppy disk, hard disk and cd rom. It apparently finds the disk drives just fine because their geometry is reported correctly and the floppy cycles when it is probed. I can access, format and destroy data on my hard disks. The machine is a 486 DX2 66 SIS471B vlb motherboard, 24 megs ram, mitsumi 1.44 floppy, Future Domain 32000 EIDE /VLB controller, Conner CFS1275A 1.2 Gig EIDE and Quantum ELS127A 120 meg hard disks, Matsushita CR562 CD ROM drive attached to a SoundBlaster Pro-2 (1600) sound card, SMC 8416 combo (BNC/10BT) ethernet network card, Cirrus Logic 1 meg video card attached to a Sony CPD-1430 monitor. MS-DOS and Windows NT 3.5 run just fine on this machine. I desparately want to get this installed using the cd rom instead of my hard disk. How can I accomplish this? What am I not doing correctly? Thank you. Richard