From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 01:07:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17104 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:07:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17099 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:07:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10580; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:28:17 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981108012817.46815@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 01:28:17 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Licia , Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) References: <19981108100217.U499@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Licia on Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 06:28:24PM -0600 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 06:28:24PM -0600, Licia wrote: > Mouse pads I don't know anything about. will do branded mugs, mouse-mats and so on, if you supply the artwork. I've already suggested to the FreeBSD Mall that they try and sort out a deal whereby there's already some FreeBSD artwork on there, so that people don't need to find their own. N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 02:33:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22134 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 02:33:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA22115 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 02:33:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.59.121]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1D6F for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:33:02 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981107203611.0098af00@genesis.ispace.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 11:37:01 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Branding project recommendations Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Was someone compiling a list already? Because I am losing track of all the products ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist *BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 02:34:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22229 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 02:34:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA22222; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 02:34:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.59.121]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA58B4; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:34:41 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 11:38:40 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , FreeBSD Advocacy Subject: Posters Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan, any chance WC will start to make FreeBSD posters? Because if so we would be happy to buy some to hang around the office... Some would go for mousepads... We use our FreeBSD boxes as workstations... Just for information regarding demand ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist *BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 04:09:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05610 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 04:09:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05557; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 04:09:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.59.121]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAAE3E; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 13:13:38 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: FreeBSD Advocacy , FreeBSD Advocacy , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Photo's Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey guys, Jordan ;) How about some new pictures of freefall, hub and wcarchive to show off with? Also how about some other pictures from nice FreeBSD boxes from around the world? I am happy to make some of our machines and in particular of freebee (Our Dell PowerEdge 2300 FreeBSD box). Just a suggestion =) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist *BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 09:46:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01569 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [206.205.41.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01562 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:46:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08253; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:46:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:46:25 -0500 (EST) From: ADRIAN Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-Reply-To: <13980.910491197@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I believe the mouse pads stalled when it was mentioned Walnut Creek > > was going to pick up on them. Guess we are still waiting on that one? > > At this time, we do not plan on mouse pads. Stickers, case buttons, > tee shirts, polo shirts, jackets and hats will have to do for now... Whre do you get the case buttons? I checked the WC web site and see no mention of them on the FreeBSD page. These are the stickers that go in the 1"x1" recess on most cases, right? I got a rack of 6 P-II 450's with ZNYX boards in them to be used as a routing test bed. Thet're all running 3.0 and it sure would be nice to have something on the outside of the box that said "FreeBSD". cheers, Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 11:30:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11233 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11228 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17394; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:29:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Adrian Filipi-Martin cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 08 Nov 1998 12:46:25 EST." Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 11:29:24 -0800 Message-ID: <17390.910553364@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Whre do you get the case buttons? I checked the WC web site and > see no mention of them on the FreeBSD page. These are the stickers that > go in the 1"x1" recess on most cases, right? Yes. They're not mentioned on the web page yet because they're rather new. If you order stickers, you'll also get a case plate. If you make special mention on your sticker (or CD) order that you'd like more than one case plate, please mention that also. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 11:46:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12878 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:46:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [206.205.41.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12818 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:45:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08441; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:44:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:44:36 -0500 (EST) From: ADRIAN Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-Reply-To: <17390.910553364@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Whre do you get the case buttons? I checked the WC web site and > > see no mention of them on the FreeBSD page. These are the stickers that > > go in the 1"x1" recess on most cases, right? > > Yes. They're not mentioned on the web page yet because they're rather > new. If you order stickers, you'll also get a case plate. If you make > special mention on your sticker (or CD) order that you'd like more than > one case plate, please mention that also. > > - Jordan Ok, last dumb queston and then I'll leave you alone. (for today...) Are the stickers a billable item or a strictly promotional give away sort of thing? I'd actually like about 20 of these and that seems a bit much, even if I do have a CD subscription. I need so many because the promotional CD I got you so send the Multimedia Networks Group at UVa almost three years ago has finally fully bloomed and is bearing wonderful amounts of fruit locally. This Fall I helped convert every lab PC into either a dedicated FreeBSD or a dual boot FreeBSD/NiceTry box. I really would love to slap a bunch of these stickers on the dedicated boxes. The 6 rack machines are the most visible though. thanks, Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 11:49:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13077 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (sf3-56.ppp.wenet.net [206.15.84.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13057 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:49:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01189; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:49:59 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Zepeda X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Drew Baxter cc: "Jan B. Koum " , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Greg Lehey , Christopher Raven , Licia , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981107215130.009fdf00@genesis.ispace.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Drew Baxter wrote: > > Can someone tell me what are "case plates" please? Thanks. :) > > > >-- Yan > > Jordan touched on this earlier in the thread.. I guess they are the steel > plates that go into the 1x1 square on the front of generic computer cases.. Where can I get some of these? These would be awesome to stick on a computer after I install fbsd on it... - alex | "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern | | technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." | | Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 12:07:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15106 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:07:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15100 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:07:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from celeris (56k-port4017.ime.net [209.90.195.27]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id OAA24297; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:54:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.19981108145142.00993100@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:52:16 -0500 To: Alex Zepeda From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) Cc: "Jan B. Koum " , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Greg Lehey , Christopher Raven , Licia , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19981107215130.009fdf00@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:49 AM 11/8/98 -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: >On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Drew Baxter wrote: >> > Can someone tell me what are "case plates" please? Thanks. :) >> > >> >-- Yan >> >> Jordan touched on this earlier in the thread.. I guess they are the steel >> plates that go into the 1x1 square on the front of generic computer cases.. > >Where can I get some of these? These would be awesome to stick on a >computer after I install fbsd on it... > >- alex > Jordan has the particulars.. I guess you can order 10 sets of stickers for like 5 bucks shipping, and you'd get a case plate with it.. I'd like to know where you can buy the case plates, I have plenty of stickers. heh. --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 12:13:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15707 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:13:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (sf3-56.ppp.wenet.net [206.15.84.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15701 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:13:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07562; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:11:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:11:53 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Zepeda X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Drew Baxter cc: "Jan B. Koum " , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Greg Lehey , Christopher Raven , Licia , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981108145142.00993100@genesis.ispace.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Drew Baxter wrote: > Jordan has the particulars.. I guess you can order 10 sets of stickers for > like 5 bucks shipping, and you'd get a case plate with it.. I'd like to > know where you can buy the case plates, I have plenty of stickers. heh. Yeah, I'm more interested in the case plates than the stickers (although I've got neither currently). I'd be willing to pay for the plates themselves too. - alex | "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern | | technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." | | Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 12:26:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17376 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:26:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17365 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:26:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17810; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:26:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Adrian Filipi-Martin cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 08 Nov 1998 14:44:36 EST." Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 12:26:53 -0800 Message-ID: <17806.910556813@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Are the stickers a billable item or a strictly promotional give > away sort of thing? I'd actually like about 20 of these and that seems a > bit much, even if I do have a CD subscription. As I noted in a previous advocacy posting (doesn't anybody read them anymore? :-), the stickers are now available directly if you send WC the $5 for S&H. You can ask for up to 10 stickers and a couple of case plates. If you're going to do promotion with them, you can also note this in your order and they'll send you more than the usual 10 (request a specific number). > I need so many because the promotional CD I got you so send the > Multimedia Networks Group at UVa almost three years ago has finally fully > bloomed and is bearing wonderful amounts of fruit locally. This Fall I Great! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 13:31:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24301 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:31:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24296 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:31:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06116; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:31:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd006072; Sun Nov 8 14:31:19 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16088; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:30:54 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199811082130.OAA16088@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Implementing ActiveX To: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com (Drew Baxter) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:30:49 +0000 (GMT) Cc: dcs@newsguy.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981104132327.00a802f0@genesis.ispace.com> from "Drew Baxter" at Nov 4, 98 01:26:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How do you call this competitive? They don't give open paperwork for their > "ActiveX" standard, otherwise I'd imagine someone (Maybe even Netscape) > would portal it into Netscape products.. Actually, their ActiveX code is heavily specified; there's little about ActiveX that isn't discussed in the serveral COM and DCOM books out there, and what isn't discussed there *is* available for download from their WWW site. I have to say that I've considered implementing DCOM on FreeBSD once or twice; it's rather trivial to do, since there is an existing DCE RPC implementation. I also have to say that not doing byte swapping on the way in and on the way out for RPC calls between x86 based boxes is a very attractive idea, just from the perspective of what it would do to the NFS performance of FreeBSD to FreeBSD mounts. I actually believe it would be trivial to implement ActiveX into Netscape; I really wouldn't want to become dependent on x86 based code for control implementations, but on the other hand, it's not like it's rocket science. >From hacking on both, I have to say that CORBA is conceptually much more difficult in implementation. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 13:38:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24975 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:38:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24969 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:38:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from celeris (56k-port4016.ime.net [209.90.195.26]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id QAA24409; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 16:38:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.19981108163216.00ac14e0@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 16:35:56 -0500 To: Terry Lambert From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Implementing ActiveX Cc: dcs@newsguy.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811082130.OAA16088@usr08.primenet.com> References: <4.1.19981104132327.00a802f0@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:30 PM 11/8/98 +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >> How do you call this competitive? They don't give open paperwork for their >> "ActiveX" standard, otherwise I'd imagine someone (Maybe even Netscape) >> would portal it into Netscape products.. > >Actually, their ActiveX code is heavily specified; there's little >about ActiveX that isn't discussed in the serveral COM and DCOM >books out there, and what isn't discussed there *is* available for >download from their WWW site. > > >I have to say that I've considered implementing DCOM on FreeBSD >once or twice; it's rather trivial to do, since there is an >existing DCE RPC implementation. > >I also have to say that not doing byte swapping on the way in >and on the way out for RPC calls between x86 based boxes is a >very attractive idea, just from the perspective of what it would >do to the NFS performance of FreeBSD to FreeBSD mounts. > > >I actually believe it would be trivial to implement ActiveX into >Netscape; I really wouldn't want to become dependent on x86 based >code for control implementations, but on the other hand, it's >not like it's rocket science. > > >From hacking on both, I have to say that CORBA is conceptually >much more difficult in implementation. I think that allowing In-Line ActiveX would be appropriate.. but at the same time (if I recall) IE runs Netscape plugins as well. So I guess that is not a big issue. Pesonally I think having Netscape just do the web browser market would be a 'good monopoly'. But since we have extensions on either side of the HTML spec (Netscape has their own, IE has their own), I don't see that happening. Personally I find it inconveniencing to have to check with Netscape and then with IE to see if my pages work on both the same way. We now have HTML Validators, but still, it's a waste of time.. I like ActiveX as far as doing things like VB, where you can just drop the object in, that did help in C/S apps. I think that we'd be better off trying to secure the standards we have NOW instead of making new ones. That's difficult when we always have a new Draft spec coming out for each time a release is. I'm getting more curious about IPv6, I think I'm going to be doing some research on that this week. --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 14:17:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28416 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28319 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from celeris (56k-port4016.ime.net [209.90.195.26]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id QAA24416; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 16:41:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.19981108163604.00abfd10@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 16:39:42 -0500 To: Alex Zepeda From: Drew Baxter Subject: Case Plates (Was Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens) Cc: "Jan B. Koum " , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Greg Lehey , Christopher Raven , Licia , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19981108145142.00993100@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:11 PM 11/8/98 -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: >Yeah, I'm more interested in the case plates than the stickers (although >I've got neither currently). I'd be willing to pay for the plates >themselves too. I'm going to NIX the Solaris box, it doesn't run Sparc apps, and it's not like there is any more of an abundance of Solaris X86 Apps as there are FreeBSD apps. so I think ODIN... will become a FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT box just like the other.. P166MMX, but maybe I can find something with it. The stickers are really neat actually. and they do have 3 that will fit in the 1x1, but I'd imagine the adhesive is questionable for that type of application, and a case plate would be more valid. There are some other interesting stickers, one of which is like the logo I have on my page, I think it'd fit on the plastic OEM thing for the Supermicro SC701 as well. --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 14:40:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00836 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00831 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18797; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:47:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd018768; Sun Nov 8 14:47:21 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16528; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:46:53 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199811082146.OAA16528@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/copyright daemon.sgml To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:46:53 +0000 (GMT) Cc: sue@welearn.com.au, netmonger@genesis.ispace.com, FreeBSD-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19981105131235.I784@freebie.lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Nov 5, 98 01:12:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > BTW, I'm still not convinced it's a male, I mean, well, you can tell > > by looking. > > Sorry to disappoint you, Sue. Daemons are neuter. What about sendmail, the mail daemon? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 15:01:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03916 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:01:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03905 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA08436; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:31:14 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA07413; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:31:13 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981109093112.R499@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:31:13 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Terry Lambert Cc: sue@welearn.com.au, netmonger@genesis.ispace.com, FreeBSD-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/copyright daemon.sgml References: <19981105131235.I784@freebie.lemis.com> <199811082146.OAA16528@usr08.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199811082146.OAA16528@usr08.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Sun, Nov 08, 1998 at 09:46:53PM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 8 November 1998 at 21:46:53 +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >>> BTW, I'm still not convinced it's a male, I mean, well, you can tell >>> by looking. >> >> Sorry to disappoint you, Sue. Daemons are neuter. > > What about sendmail, the mail daemon? Never heard of eunuchs handling mail? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 15:13:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04857 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:13:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04839 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:13:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA08471; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:42:46 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA07460; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:42:45 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981109094245.W499@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:42:45 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Christopher Raven , "advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Branding project recommendations References: <36444CF2.A4B49393@uk.radan.com> <3644F526.5A7DADCF@ukonline.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3644F526.5A7DADCF@ukonline.co.uk>; from Christopher Raven on Sun, Nov 08, 1998 at 01:34:30AM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 8 November 1998 at 1:34:30 +0000, Christopher Raven wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: >> >> Jason C. Wells wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Wes Peters wrote: >>> >>>> Software category 1: (designed for) >>>> Netscape Navigator >>>> Applixware (once port is finished) >>> >>> Everything in the ports tree that doesn't need emulation, >>> commercial or not. >>> >>>> Software category 2: (works with) >>>> Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0 /linux >>> >>> Linux Netscape >>> Linux Rvplayer >>> Everything in the ports tree that needs emulation, commercial or >>> not. >>> >>>> Hardware: (works with) >>>> Linksys EtherFast 10/100 NI card >>> >>> Some other Linksys cards are covered too, right? >>> >>>> Adaptec SCSI controllers (haven't they helped with drivers?) >>> >>> Video Cards that are supported by XFree86 (sure to invite >>> commentary. This is a FAQ though. People want to know if some >>> card "works with FreeBSD) >>> >> >> ATI cards (Mach64 & 3D Rage Pro) in my experience >> >> Diamond Fireport SCSI cards (someone said, Doug White I think, >> that they are helpful to people writing device drivers) >> > > Can we add motherboards to this list? > > Micronics :- Twister AT (Jumpered MB) > Legend QDI :- P51430TX-250 Titanium IB (Jumperless MB) I don't think this is a good idea. I've come across almost *no* motherboards that don't work. To be fair, we'd have to test every one of them. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 16:31:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13933 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 16:31:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.svr.freeserve.net (mail1.svr.freeserve.net [194.152.65.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13926 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 16:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from c.raven@ukonline.co.uk) Received: from modem-48.phosphorus.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.7.48] helo=ukonline.co.uk) by mail1.svr.freeserve.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05iplimit-2 #5) id 0zcfE7-0001FB-00; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:30:39 +0000 Message-ID: <36463779.FB6E5258@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 00:29:45 +0000 From: Christopher Raven Organization: CIAN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: "advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Branding project recommendations References: <36444CF2.A4B49393@uk.radan.com> <3644F526.5A7DADCF@ukonline.co.uk> <19981109094245.W499@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Sunday, 8 November 1998 at 1:34:30 +0000, Christopher Raven wrote: > > Mark Ovens wrote: > >> > >> Jason C. Wells wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Wes Peters wrote: > >>> > >>>> Software category 1: (designed for) > >>>> Netscape Navigator > >>>> Applixware (once port is finished) > >>> > >>> Everything in the ports tree that doesn't need emulation, > >>> commercial or not. > >>> > >>>> Software category 2: (works with) > >>>> Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0 /linux > >>> > >>> Linux Netscape > >>> Linux Rvplayer > >>> Everything in the ports tree that needs emulation, commercial or > >>> not. > >>> > >>>> Hardware: (works with) > >>>> Linksys EtherFast 10/100 NI card > >>> > >>> Some other Linksys cards are covered too, right? > >>> > >>>> Adaptec SCSI controllers (haven't they helped with drivers?) > >>> > >>> Video Cards that are supported by XFree86 (sure to invite > >>> commentary. This is a FAQ though. People want to know if some > >>> card "works with FreeBSD) > >>> > >> > >> ATI cards (Mach64 & 3D Rage Pro) in my experience > >> > >> Diamond Fireport SCSI cards (someone said, Doug White I think, > >> that they are helpful to people writing device drivers) > >> > > > > Can we add motherboards to this list? > > > > Micronics :- Twister AT (Jumpered MB) > > Legend QDI :- P51430TX-250 Titanium IB (Jumperless MB) > > I don't think this is a good idea. I've come across almost *no* > motherboards that don't work. To be fair, we'd have to test every one > of them. > > Greg Reasonable point I suppose. Perhaps in this case, a list of non-functioning / troublesome (or reportedly so) motherboards could be added to the works with list? A sort of anti-works with. OTOH this could be sort of anti-advocacy :-( > -- > See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key -- Christopher Raven E-mail: c.raven@ukonline.co.uk & ICQ: 2254369 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ "The Power To Serve" http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ "A PC is for life, not just for Xmas" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 18:21:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24621 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail6.svr.freeserve.net (mail6.svr.freeserve.net [195.92.193.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24613 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:21:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from c.raven@ukonline.co.uk) Received: from modem-8.zinc.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.14.136] helo=ukonline.co.uk) by mail6.svr.freeserve.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05iplimit-2 #5) id 0zcgwt-0007Te-00; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:20:59 +0000 Message-ID: <36465169.DF313BB8@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 02:20:25 +0000 From: Christopher Raven Organization: CIAN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake CC: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) References: <13980.910491197@time.cdrom.com> <3645043C.E926B84D@ukonline.co.uk> <19981108142508.29313@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sue Blake wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 08, 1998 at 02:38:53AM +0000, Christopher Raven wrote: > > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > > I believe the mouse pads stalled when it was mentioned Walnut Creek > > > > was going to pick up on them. Guess we are still waiting on that one? > > > > > > At this time, we do not plan on mouse pads. Stickers, case buttons, > > > tee shirts, polo shirts, jackets and hats will have to do for now... > > > > > > If anyone else wants to do FreeBSD mouse pads or bumper stickers or > > > marital aids, they should feel free to jump right in. WC will not > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > Hmm, now theres a thought ...... powered by FreeBSD ;-) > > Hmmm... something in black satin and lace please. No power plays, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "The power to serve"? > just a little daemon saying "grep". > Easy there Sue ;-) Incidentally, what level of certification would it be looking at, and who would be certificating/testing it? (no fighting please) oh gawd its gone 0200 again...! night,night,.... bed bugs *byte* etc.,etc.. -- Christopher Raven E-mail: c.raven@ukonline.co.uk & ICQ: 2254369 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ "The Power To Serve" http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ "A PC is for life, not just for Xmas" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 8 19:12:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29232 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29223 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:12:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14024; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:11:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd013987; Sun Nov 8 20:11:39 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06370; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:11:38 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199811090311.UAA06370@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Halloween memo - what does it mean? To: wes@softweyr.com (Wes Peters) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 03:11:38 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, miker@cnet.com In-Reply-To: <36427EB4.AABA1891@softweyr.com> from "Wes Peters" at Nov 5, 98 09:44:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Now how many of us here REALLY believe Microsoft is concerned with > the impact of Linux, Apache, Sendmail, or any other "Open Source > Software" on their bottom line? Show of hands? > > Yes, Terry, you may go to the bathroom. Anyone else? I thought not. I still doubt the origin of the memo, let alone that a company whose 1998 research budget alone could pay each US Senator $10,000,000 fears anyone or anything. I also doubt that the timing is for the antitrust suit. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Nov 9 07:45:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17483 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:45:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from att.com (kcgw1.att.com [192.128.133.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA17478; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:45:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sbabkin@dcn.att.com) From: sbabkin@dcn.att.com Received: from kcig1.fw.att.com by kcgw1.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/UPAS-1.0) for freebsd.org!freebsd-hackers freebsd.org!advocacy sender dcn.att.com!sbabkin (dcn.att.com!sbabkin); Mon Nov 9 09:42 CST 1998 Received: from dcn71.dcn.att.com ([135.44.192.112]) by kcig1.fw.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/GW-1.0) with ESMTP id JAA25413; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:42:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by dcn71.dcn.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:42:36 -0500 Message-ID: To: nathan@rtfm.net, hasty@netcom.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Ariel Faigon: The Holloween Document (fwd) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:42:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Dorfman [SMTP:nathan@rtfm.net] > > On Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 02:01:40PM -0800, Amancio Hasty Jr wrote: > > The e-mail made it to today's San Jose Mercury NewsPaper in the business > > section. The news article claims that the e-mail was confirmed by > > Microsoft to be authenticate --- not sure who to believe Microsoft or > > the Linux camp 8) > > http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/highlights/editorletter.asp > I wonder, has anyone considered another possibility: that this information leak is intended. Now, when Microsoft got some pressure for monopolizing the market, it may be important for them to convince everybody that they are actually not a monopoly. -Sergey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Nov 9 07:58:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18399 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:58:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phobos.illtel.denver.co.us (phobos.illtel.denver.co.us [207.33.75.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18382; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:58:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abelits@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us) Received: from localhost (abelits@localhost) by phobos.illtel.denver.co.us (8.9.1a/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA06287; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:00:42 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:00:42 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Belits To: sbabkin@dcn.att.com cc: nathan@rtfm.net, hasty@netcom.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Ariel Faigon: The Holloween Document (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 sbabkin@dcn.att.com wrote: > I wonder, has anyone considered another possibility: that > this information leak is intended. Now, when Microsoft > got some pressure for monopolizing the market, it may > be important for them to convince everybody that they > are actually not a monopoly. A lot of people did, but even taking in consideration that human stupidity is always underestimated, such tactics will backfire at Microsoft heavily -- as "You should abandon all profits from selling software to be able to compete with Microsoft". -- Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Nov 9 10:15:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02237 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from o-o.org (o-o.org [207.252.201.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02219 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:15:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from licia@o-o.org) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by o-o.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA03459 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:15:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:15:03 -0600 (CST) From: Licia To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Giveaway Pens! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just placed the order for these pens, and would like to thank everyone for all the input I received :) Here is what will be on the pens, each line will be centered and capitalization will be the same : FreeBSD http://www.FreeBSD.org The world's finest network operating system, for free I ordered a total of 1,250 of them, so I hope the wording came out right! :) [ licia@o-o.org ] [ http://www.o-o.org/ ] [ IrcNick : Licia ] [ A happy user of FreeBSD : http://www.freebsd.org/ ] [ Why crawl through windows when you can walk through a door? ] [ This user boycotts all Microsoft products and services ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Nov 9 10:30:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03990 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:30:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03983 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:30:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07689; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:29:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: sbabkin@dcn.att.com cc: nathan@rtfm.net, hasty@netcom.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, abelits@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us Subject: Re: Ariel Faigon: The Holloween Document (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:42:34 EST." Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:29:14 -0800 Message-ID: <7685.910632554@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If people don't stop cc'ing stuff to -hackers, I'm going to get out the turbo-unsubscriber here and start improving the situation the old fashioned way! :-) What's it going to take to get you folks to READ YOUR OWN CC LINES? Electric shocks? Imprisonment in the Lubyanka? :-) - Jordan > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nathan Dorfman [SMTP:nathan@rtfm.net] > > > > On Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 02:01:40PM -0800, Amancio Hasty Jr wrote: > > > The e-mail made it to today's San Jose Mercury NewsPaper in the business > > > section. The news article claims that the e-mail was confirmed by > > > Microsoft to be authenticate --- not sure who to believe Microsoft or > > > the Linux camp 8) > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/highlights/editorletter.asp > > > I wonder, has anyone considered another possibility: that > this information leak is intended. Now, when Microsoft > got some pressure for monopolizing the market, it may > be important for them to convince everybody that they > are actually not a monopoly. > > -Sergey > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 05:42:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23601 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:42:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23596 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:42:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no (2602@gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.86]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id OAA29959; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:42:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:42:14 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Licia Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I Need Advice References: Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 10 Nov 1998 14:42:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: Licia's message of "Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:41:01 -0600 (CST)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id FAA23597 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Licia writes: > Right now, I am thinking something like : > [...] > 3 http://www.FreeBSD.org There should be a slash at the end: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 05:52:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24556 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24550 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:52:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no (2602@gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.86]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id OAA02123; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:51:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:51:42 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Advocacy web pages References: <19981107222418.18373@nothing-going-on.org> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 10 Nov 1998 14:51:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:24:18 +0000" Message-ID: Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id FAA24552 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton writes: > Umm... sed 's/dieing/dying/' myths.html please :) DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 06:11:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26299 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:11:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26293 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no (2602@gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.86]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id PAA08308; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:10:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:10:33 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: "David O'Brien" , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, Adrian Filipi-Martin Subject: Re: On advocating FreeBSD and the Halloween memo... References: Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 10 Nov 1998 15:10:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai's message of "Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:50:24 +0100 (CET)" Message-ID: Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id GAA26295 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai writes: > > > (Do I dare?) In contrast with the state of the Linux universe, > > > there few enough BSD's that I can count them on one hand. it is diffucult > > > to recall all of the different Linux distributions I have seen or > > > encountered. There's Slackware, Cladera, Red Had, Yaggsdrill(sp?), > > > Debian, etc... > Caldera, Red Hat and Yggdrasil I was under the impression that Yggdrasil bundled Slackware with their book (The Linux Bible: The GNU Testament). I'm quite certain *I* ran Slackware, and I got the CD from that book (way back in '95). From their web page, it seems that they once made something called "Plug and Play Linux", but the product page for The Linux Bible indicates they ship Slackware 3.0 with the book. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 07:16:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04318 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:16:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04313 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:16:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (wes@zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17987 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:15:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <364858A9.F9432571@softweyr.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:15:53 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Branding project recommendations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's what we have so far. Please, when replying to this message, leave the message intact, and add your recommendation to the appropriate list. Thanks for your help. Software category 1: (designed for) Netscape Navigator Applixware (once port is finished) Kaffe CheckPoint FireWall-1 and VPN-1 products (courtesy Nokia) Everything in the ports tree that doesn't need emulation, commercial or not. Software category 2: (works with) Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0 /linux Linux Netscape Linux Rvplayer Corel WordPerfect 7 for Linux Everything in the ports tree that needs emulation, commercial or not. Hardware: (works with) Linksys EtherFast 10/100 NI card Some other Linksys cards are covered too, right? Emerging Technologies Cards work.. Even if we dont have source. (All known well-supported ethernet cards, the more the merrier) Adaptec SCSI controllers (haven't they helped with drivers?) Diamond Fireport SCSI cards (someone said, Doug White I think, that they are helpful to people writing device drivers) (Ditto for SCSI controllers) Video Cards that are supported by XFree86 (sure to invite commentary. This is a FAQ though. People want to know if some card "works with FreeBSD) ATI cards (Mach64 & 3D Rage Pro) in my experience Can we add motherboards to this list? Micronics :- Twister AT (Jumpered MB) Legend QDI :- P51430TX-250 Titanium IB (Jumperless MB) FIC/M-Tech R540 Mustang www.mtiusa.com VTI P5ips www.vextrec.com Supermicro P6SBA Tseng Labs ET6000 SVGA card Diamond Flower Inc. Motherboard G586IPV Hard Drives Quantum Fireball HDs Products with "FreeBSD Inside": Whistle InterJet Pluto SPACE Platform Vixie "Interceptor" Nokia VPN and Firewall routers: VPN200, IP410, IP44 (more?) Please reply ONLY to -advocacy, adding any more items to this list. I'd like to roll this up as soon as we have some artwork. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 07:39:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07096 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from o-o.org (o-o.org [207.252.201.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07088 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:39:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from licia@o-o.org) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by o-o.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA07125; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:38:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:38:08 -0600 (CST) From: Licia To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Christopher Raven , Greg Lehey , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-Reply-To: <13980.910491197@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I believe the mouse pads stalled when it was mentioned Walnut Creek > > was going to pick up on them. Guess we are still waiting on that one? > > At this time, we do not plan on mouse pads. Stickers, case buttons, > tee shirts, polo shirts, jackets and hats will have to do for now... > > If anyone else wants to do FreeBSD mouse pads or bumper stickers or > marital aids, they should feel free to jump right in. WC will not > stand in your way or attempt to duplicate your efforts. :-) > > - Jordan > Depending on how the pens turn out, I will do keychains next, then possibly bumper stickers... (this will all be give-away stuff, like the pens :) ) BTW, I should be getting the pens in 2 to 2 1/2 weeks, would WC or the core team like some? I wouldn't mind sending y'all a hundred or two :) [ licia@o-o.org ] [ http://www.o-o.org/ ] [ IrcNick : Licia ] [ A happy user of FreeBSD : http://www.freebsd.org/ ] [ Why crawl through windows when you can walk through a door? ] [ This user boycotts all Microsoft products and services ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 10:42:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28485 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:42:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28480 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:42:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (root@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA15104 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:42:08 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA15579 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:42:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:41:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-advocacy Subject: Advocacy quiet? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has advocacy really been quiet for two days or have I broke procmail again? I checked and I am still subscribed. Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 10:43:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28520 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28515 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01553; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Licia cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Christopher Raven , Greg Lehey , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:38:08 CST." Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:03 -0800 Message-ID: <1550.910723383@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > BTW, I should be getting the pens in 2 to 2 1/2 weeks, would > WC or the core team like some? I wouldn't mind sending y'all > a hundred or two :) Sure, we'll take some! Just send them to the Walnut Creek CDROM address (http://www.cdrom.com for all contact details). Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 10:51:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29562 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from o-o.org (o-o.org [207.252.201.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29557 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from licia@o-o.org) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by o-o.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA07846; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:50:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:50:02 -0600 (CST) From: Licia To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Christopher Raven , Greg Lehey , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD giveaway pens (was: I Need Advice) In-Reply-To: <1550.910723383@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > BTW, I should be getting the pens in 2 to 2 1/2 weeks, would > > WC or the core team like some? I wouldn't mind sending y'all > > a hundred or two :) > > Sure, we'll take some! Just send them to the Walnut Creek > CDROM address (http://www.cdrom.com for all contact details). > > Thanks! > > - Jordan > You're welcome :) How many would y'all like? :) [ licia@o-o.org ] [ http://www.o-o.org/ ] [ IrcNick : Licia ] [ A happy user of FreeBSD : http://www.freebsd.org/ ] [ Why crawl through windows when you can walk through a door? ] [ This user boycotts all Microsoft products and services ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 12:53:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13591 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:53:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13578 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:53:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.59.29]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA697F; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:53:03 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:57:16 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Subject: Re: On advocating FreeBSD and the Halloween memo... Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Nov-98 Dag-Erling C. Smørgrav wrote: > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai writes: >> > > (Do I dare?) In contrast with the state of the Linux universe, >> > > there few enough BSD's that I can count them on one hand. it is >> > > diffucult >> > > to recall all of the different Linux distributions I have seen or >> > > encountered. There's Slackware, Cladera, Red Had, Yaggsdrill(sp?), >> > > Debian, etc... >> Caldera, Red Hat and Yggdrasil > > I was under the impression that Yggdrasil bundled Slackware with their > book (The Linux Bible: The GNU Testament). I'm quite certain *I* ran > Slackware, and I got the CD from that book (way back in '95). From > their web page, it seems that they once made something called "Plug > and Play Linux", but the product page for The Linux Bible indicates > they ship Slackware 3.0 with the book. Could be... I was just naming the 'distribution' names I knew =) www.linux.org lists them all I guess... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl | Cum angelis et pueris, Junior Network/Security Specialist | fideles inveniamur *BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Nov 10 23:28:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14171 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:28:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14160 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:28:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25456 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:27:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd025439; Wed Nov 11 00:27:43 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA04825 for advocacy@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:27:41 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199811110727.AAA04825@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Links2Go Key Resource Award (fwd) To: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:27:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Forwarded message: >From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 16:05:10 1998 From: awards@links2go.com Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:59:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199811092259.RAA20802@l2gdevel.links2go.com> Subject: Links2Go Key Resource Award To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Congratulations! Your page: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html has been selected to receive a Links2Go Key Resource award in the FreeBSD topic! The Links2Go Key Resource award is both exclusive and objective. Fewer than one page in one thousand will ever be selected for inclusion. Further, unlike most awards that rely on the subjective opinion of "experts," many of whom have only looked at tens or hundreds of thousands of pages in bestowing their awards, the Links2Go Key Resource award is completely objective and is based on an analysis of millions of web pages. During the course of our analysis, we identify which links are most representative of each of the thousands of topics in Links2Go, based on how actual page authors, like yourself, index and organize links on their pages. In fact, the Key Resource award is so exclusive, even we don't qualify for it (yet ;)! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Nov 13 13:23:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02295 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:23:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02288 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:23:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA16939 for freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:22:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19981113132243.Q15956@nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:22:43 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (FWD) Re: Server Strategies: At Brigham Young, NT Barely Makes Grade Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, looks like we've managed to open up one site's eyes. :-)) -- David ----- Forwarded message from Brad Stone ----- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:21:31 -0700 From: Brad Stone Subject: Re: Server Strategies: At Brigham Young, NT Barely Makes Grade X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 At 11:00 AM 11/13/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Mr. Stone, > >I just read in http://www.internetwk.com/trends/trends110998-1.htm that >BYU wanted an NT solution because > > "It came down to the cost question. We could put in dual-processor > Pentiums running NT for $7,000 versus tens of thousands of dollars > for a Unix box." > >Is there any reason you have not tried a FreeBSD solution? You can find David, I appreciate your comments. A number of people have suggested both Linux and FreeBSD in response to the article. We will investigate the FreeBSD solution. I didn't know about the professional support, which is very important to us. I am a little worried that some of the commercial software packages port quickly for the commercial Unix platforms, but don't seem to have solutions for Linux or FreeBSD. Is this what you have found? - Brad ---------------------------------------------------------------- Brad Stone                        ("''/").___..--''"`-._ University Computing Services     `o_ o  )   `-.  (    ).`-.__.`) Brigham Young University          (_Y_.)'  ._   )  `._ `. ``-..-' Internet: Brad_Stone@byu.edu     ..`--'_..-_/  /--'_.' .' Phone   : (801) 378-7459       (il).-''  ((i).'  ((!.-' ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Nov 14 10:45:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05963 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:45:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from squirrel.tgsoft.com (cx20270-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com [24.0.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05958 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:45:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thompson@tgsoft.com) Received: (qmail 27914 invoked by uid 128); 14 Nov 1998 18:45:15 -0000 Date: 14 Nov 1998 18:45:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19981114184515.27913.qmail@squirrel.tgsoft.com> From: mark thompson To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linux emulation Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So I got a new machine for "family" use. Installed RedHat on it, but the serial port for the mouse didn't work -- so I went back to what I know and put 3.0 on it. Now, one of the big features of 3.0 is the improved linux emulation, and given the current buzz that linux has, this is a WAY GOOD THING. But Linux emulation is not easy to install, as near as I can tell. The emulator drops right in from sysinstall, but the libraries that you need to do anything are a port. Now ports are easy, and all, but not nearly AS easy as telling sysinstall that you want linux emulation, and you want everything it needs to work. If I am totally off-base on this, please be kind, but it seems like a little marketing boo-boo to me. -- -mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Nov 14 14:41:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22157 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:41:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22145 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:41:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04670 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:41:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:41:46 -0800 Message-ID: <4662.911083306.1@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Mike Smith and I will be at COMDEX in Las Vegas, Nov 16-20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa" Content-Description: Blind Carbon Copy Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: Original Message To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Mike Smith and I will be at COMDEX in Las Vegas, Nov 16-20 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:41:46 -0800 Message-ID: <4662.911083306@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Just FYI, Mike and I will be at the Walnut Creek CDROM/FreeBSD/Slackware booth (each of us groups gets our own piece of it :) at the Sands Convention Center, booth S-7533. If anyone in Las Vegas would like to stop by and say "Hi!", please do! If anyone would like to give me dialup access so that I can check my mail (I should really set this up as a standing arrangement for every year :-), that would be really great also. If so, please just drop me an email with the dialup/account details. Much obliged. Thanks! - Jordan ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Nov 14 21:13:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22340 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:13:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from insomnia.local.net (tcs3-14.netwalk.net [206.175.52.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22326; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:13:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmutter@netwalk.com) Received: from localhost (jmutter@localhost) by insomnia.local.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18783; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:12:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmutter@netwalk.com) X-Authentication-Warning: insomnia.local.net: jmutter owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:12:57 -0500 (EST) From: "James A. Mutter" Reply-To: jm7996@devrycols.edu To: Drew Baxter cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , wes@softweyr.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Halloween memo - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981107193443.00a8a420@genesis.ispace.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Here's some theory.... I bet they'll build a building down the street and > it'll be "Microsoft 2.0".. :-) Heh. No, they would never do that - knowing full well that in a few months they would have to replace that building with Microsoft 2.1. Way too much money involved there. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Nov 14 21:27:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22822 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:27:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22817 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:27:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu (root@saul3.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.1]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA35226 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:26:49 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA09539 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:26:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:26:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-advocacy Subject: Merced Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://linuxtoday.com/stories/833.html It contains a couple refs to FreeBSD. I was curious what you had to say about the fellows comments on Merced and how FreeBSD/Linux can get to 64bit intel faster than M$. Grep the article for "migration to Merced" to see what I am talking about. Also, someone please cc me. I haven't been getting any -advocacy for a few days. Is it still alive? Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Nov 14 21:54:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24095 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:54:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24086; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from celeris (56k-port4001.ime.net [209.90.195.11]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id AAA04566; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:53:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.19981115002117.009bf9f0@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:51:42 -0500 To: jm7996@devrycols.edu From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Halloween memo - what does it mean? Cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , wes@softweyr.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19981107193443.00a8a420@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:12 AM 11/15/98 -0500, James A. Mutter wrote: > >> Here's some theory.... I bet they'll build a building down the street and >> it'll be "Microsoft 2.0".. :-) > > >Heh. No, they would never do that - knowing full well that in a few >months they would have to replace that building with Microsoft 2.1. > >Way too much money involved there. :) I spose that's valid. maybe Microsoft 2000.. and then they'll just have an incrementing counter :) --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange, Bangor Maine USA http://www.droo.orland.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message