From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 11:10:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10706 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10700 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@zeta.org.au) Received: from gurney.reilly.home (d18.syd2.zeta.org.au [203.26.11.18]) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA12761; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:06:29 +1100 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by gurney.reilly.home (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA14256; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:33:14 +1100 (EST) From: Andrew Reilly Message-Id: <199803220833.TAA14256@gurney.reilly.home> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:33:14 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: Worldstone Continued... To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org cc: taob@nbc.netcom.ca, current@FreeBSD.ORG, reilly@zeta.org.au In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 Mar, Simon Shapiro wrote: > My very humble opinion is that we are barking up the wrong tree. Disk I/O > is not the limiting factor here. I am looking at disk bandwidth > utilization of less than 20%. From idle observation, it appears that > parsing Makefiles is 4-5 times the amount of time it takes to actually > compile anything. > > The curious could take the kernel directory and write a simple script to > compile it without make at all. Tell us the results. For the kernel, that's nothing more than the output of make -n. I think that building a script for make buildworld could be a little trickier. I'm a little surprised that you think that make itself is so expensive. -- Andrew "The steady state of disks is full." -- Ken Thompson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 11:45:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18894 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18886 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:45:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 27326 invoked from network); 22 Mar 1998 19:50:51 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 22 Mar 1998 19:50:51 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803220833.TAA14256@gurney.reilly.home> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:50:51 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Andrew Reilly Subject: Re: Worldstone Continued... Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, taob@nbc.netcom.ca Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 22-Mar-98 Andrew Reilly wrote: > On 21 Mar, Simon Shapiro wrote: >> My very humble opinion is that we are barking up the wrong tree. Disk >> I/O >> is not the limiting factor here. I am looking at disk bandwidth >> utilization of less than 20%. From idle observation, it appears that >> parsing Makefiles is 4-5 times the amount of time it takes to actually >> compile anything. >> >> The curious could take the kernel directory and write a simple script >> to >> compile it without make at all. Tell us the results. > > For the kernel, that's nothing more than the output of make -n. I > think that building a script for make buildworld could be a little > trickier. > > I'm a little surprised that you think that make itself is so > expensive. Simple observation; make clean && make depend && make -j8 in the kernel. Observe the relative time it takes make to prepare what to do, and the time it takes to actually compile it. Another Observation; I can increase disk bandwidth for large compilations (make world, etc.) almost linearly with only minimal gain in overall time. I compiled on RAID-5, RAID-0, with stripe width up to 8 drives, with source and objects on separate arrays. WRITE cache is set to write-back, the system can demonstrate 5-19 MB/Sec for random I/O on small blocks, up to 1740 disk ops/sec. Make buildworld and make -j8buildworld are resulting in 200, 280 disk I/O ops/sec, respectively. CPU utilization is 80% user 70% system (figure this one out :-). I conclude from these numbers that the system is not starved for I/O. There could be one of several explanations: * Make, which is low-I/O consumer, takes inordinate amount of time * Compilations are CPU intensive, more than we think * The current SCSI layer is somehow slow I wish I had the time to port the DPT driver to CAM. This will give us an answer. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 12:43:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28715 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:43:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kong.dorms.spbu.ru (root@kong.dorms.spbu.ru [195.19.252.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28710 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:43:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kong@kkk.ml.org) Received: from localhost (kong@localhost) by kong.dorms.spbu.ru (8.8.8/kong/0.00) with SMTP id XAA01233; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:28:19 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from kong@kkk.ml.org) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:28:18 +0300 (MSK) From: Hostas Red X-Sender: kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru To: Dmitrij Tejblum cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having problems with msdosfs In-Reply-To: <199803212336.CAA02181@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > > Still having problems with writing onto msdosfs partition (FAT32). It > > reads ok, but when i'm trying to write a couple of files there, system > > hangs, and need a reset to reboot. > Please compile DDB in kernel, and when it happens, press Ctrl-Alt-Esc, > say "trace" on the ddb prompt, and send me the result. Here's the result: _Debugger(f01becff) at _Debugger+0x35 _sgetc(2,0,f07ac000,c,f42c6d3c) ar _sgetc+0xd31 _scintr(0,80000000,10,10,4) at _scintr+0x17 Xresume1() at Xresume1+0x2b --- interrupt, eip = 0xf014a2c2, esp = 0xf42c6d20, ebp = 0xf42c6d3c --- _updatefats(f07ac000, f1c1c4f8, 921) at _updatefats+0x5e _fatchain(f07ac000, 48450, 0, ffffffff, 48450) at _fatchain+0x172 _chainalloc(f07ac000, 48450, 3, ffffffff, f42c6e18) at _chainalloc+0x5a _clusteralloc(f07ac000, 60de, 3, ffffffff, f42c6e18) at _clusteralloc+0x1eb _extendfile(f081c200, 3, 0, 0, 0) at _extendfile+0xc7 _msdosfs_write(f42c6ee8, f424df80, 2c19, f424df80, f424df80) at _msdosfs_write+0x26c _vn_write(f082df80, f42c6f30, f081b280, f424df80, f01d5260) at _vn_write+0xef _write(f424df80, f42c6f84, 2c19, f384, 2c19) at _write+0xab _syscall(27,27,2c19,f384,efbfdba0) at _syscall+0x187 _Xsyscall() at _Xsyscall+0x35 --- syscall 0x4, eip = 0xdad5, esp = 0xefbfdb14, ebp = 0xefbfdba0 --- Results are 100% repeateable - i can't write a nibble on dos partition. :( Addresses varies, offsets always the same. BTW, also doesn't works koi2dos trantable (locale doesn't works too), if used from fstab - it can't find a "/usr/libdata/msdosfs/koi2dos" file (it IS there, and if mounted from console afterboot, everything works fine (read, at least, because write now is broken)), and can't find locale ru_RU.KOI8-R, too. Any suggestions? If i use full path for trantable, it doesn't helps - it can't find a file, where he is. Adios, /KONG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 15:40:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27465 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27424 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20244; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:40:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd020231; Sun Mar 22 16:40:06 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00401; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:40:02 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199803222340.QAA00401@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status To: karl@mcs.net (Karl Denninger) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:40:02 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, toor@dyson.iquest.net, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980321171211.55116@mcs.net> from "Karl Denninger" at Mar 21, 98 05:12:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I know that fsck will not necessarily be able to return the disk > > to the state that it would have been without the failure, but it > > should be possible for it to return it to a self-consistent state. > > > > If it can't, then we need to fix it (IMO). > > It doesn't in this particular case. > > Further, that the METADATA is ok doesn't mean the file contents are > undamaged! You're right; it doesn't. BTW: it's not fsck's job to make user data self-consistent; that's the job of the user data rebuilding program. The only job fsck has is to make the metadata self-consistent. > This last round destroyed or damaged BOTH metadata and the file contents. Certainly, it's bad to have damaged file contents. There's really nothing that can be done about that, except keeping reasonably current backups. In the case of a crash with file contents -- well, that's why database and kernel engineers get paid more than applications jocks. For data you care about, you should use a two stage commit process that guarantees an ordered set of operations, and forces a commit to stable storage. Ideally, you'd do this by mounting the FS you were operating against "sync" and implementing comething very like soft updates, except your graph edges would be described by events important to you, not the FS. 8-). The way in which the current damage took place, where vm object commits were not reliable... well, that's not something you can recover from at all, sorry. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 15:42:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28398 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:42:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28352; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:42:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05787; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:42:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd005771; Sun Mar 22 16:42:24 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00532; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:42:22 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199803222342.QAA00532@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:42:21 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, karl@mcs.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803212347.SAA04236@dyson.iquest.net> from "John S. Dyson" at Mar 21, 98 06:47:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If it can't, then we need to fix it (IMO). > > Excellent!!! A project to keep Terry out of trouble :-). Heh. 8-). I've already fixed it twice, so far; both changes were committed. I still don't understand how it's supposed to be broken; it seems to me like it does the right things... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 15:50:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00208 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:50:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00197 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:50:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27022; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:50:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd026985; Sun Mar 22 16:50:07 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00880; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:50:03 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199803222350.QAA00880@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Where does one report bugs? To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:50:03 +0000 (GMT) Cc: ckempf@enigami.com, sprice@hiwaay.net, bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803220539.QAA24645@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Mar 22, 98 04:39:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > No, it hides the problem :-). The arg type is supposed to be speed_t, > but speed_t is not visible in . Remove the prototype. This is a function that is not supposed to be called by users (hence the leading underscores). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 16:39:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08323 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:39:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08315; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:39:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id SAA27462; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:39:23 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id SAA15060; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:39:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980322183922.14684@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:39:22 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Terry Lambert Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status References: <199803212347.SAA04236@dyson.iquest.net> <199803222342.QAA00532@usr06.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <199803222342.QAA00532@usr06.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 11:42:21PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is, in some cases, broken. With the munging that was going on multiple passes were required to make the metadata self-consistent, and even then I'm not sure it was really "right". Fsck should require exactly ONE pass (possibly with "-y") to end up self-consistent. You may lose files that way, but it should never require a second run before it marks the filesystem "clean" and means it. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 11:42:21PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > If it can't, then we need to fix it (IMO). > > > > Excellent!!! A project to keep Terry out of trouble :-). > > Heh. 8-). > > I've already fixed it twice, so far; both changes were committed. > > I still don't understand how it's supposed to be broken; it seems > to me like it does the right things... > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 16:55:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10597 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10564 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:54:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 28332 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 01:00:18 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 01:00:18 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803222340.QAA00401@usr06.primenet.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:00:18 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, toor@dyson.iquest.net, (Karl Denninger) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ... > For data you care about, you should use a two stage commit process that > guarantees an ordered set of operations, and forces a commit to stable > storage. > > Ideally, you'd do this by mounting the FS you were operating against > "sync" and implementing comething very like soft updates, except your > graph edges would be described by events important to you, not the FS. > 8-). Although an excellent idea (not necessarily new :-), this will not protect you from software bugs. Nothing will. > The way in which the current damage took place, where vm object commits > were not reliable... well, that's not something you can recover from at > all, sorry. You are right. This braught to mind to question the necessity of having a unified buffer I/O subsystem. In a truely compartmentalized system, the VM could have had nothing to do with data files I/O. Yet, even that would not have saved us from a bug. One of the virtues of Unix is a unified kernel. Any bug effectes any system. Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 16:58:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11028 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11016 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 1750 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 01:03:47 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 01:03:47 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980322183922.14684@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:03:47 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Karl Denninger Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Mar-98 Karl Denninger wrote: ... > Fsck should require exactly ONE pass (possibly with "-y") to end up > self-consistent. You may lose files that way, but it should never > require a second run before it marks the filesystem "clean" and means it. ``Should'' is the key here. I have yet to see a Unix where that is true. Actually, this is one of the favorite M$ arguing points in their ``NT is better than Unix'' propaganda. Not to say I belive the NTFS to be all that much better (it is better in some journaling ways :-). Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 17:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13741 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:12:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13735; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:12:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id TAA28411; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:12:53 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id TAA15498; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:12:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:12:53 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status References: <19980322183922.14684@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: ; from Simon Shapiro on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 05:03:47PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 05:03:47PM -0800, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > On 23-Mar-98 Karl Denninger wrote: > ... > > > Fsck should require exactly ONE pass (possibly with "-y") to end up > > self-consistent. You may lose files that way, but it should never > > require a second run before it marks the filesystem "clean" and means it. > > ``Should'' is the key here. I have yet to see a Unix where that is true. > > Actually, this is one of the favorite M$ arguing points in their ``NT is > better than Unix'' propaganda. Not to say I belive the NTFS to be all that > much better (it is better in some journaling ways :-). > > Simon The equivalent of IBM's jfs fixes that complaint rather thoroughly. I don't know if you've ever seen one of these come up after a crash, but it is rather impressive to see the system roll forward (or back) the transactions to the filesystem and come up in seconds - with 100GB+ of data online. The other "cute" thing is that you can extend a jfs volume while the system is online; that's a very cute feature. jfs is a monstrous pig for some uses however (its allocation size is larger than ffs) and for that reason its useless for things like news servers - but for regular applications its fantastic. I hated AIX when I had to work with it, but the one thing you simply couldn't argue with was their jfs filesystem. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 17:36:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16229 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:36:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16224 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:36:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00607; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:36:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199803230136.UAA00607@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status In-Reply-To: from Simon Shapiro at "Mar 22, 98 05:00:18 pm" To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:36:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, toor@dyson.iquest.net, karl@mcs.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > You are right. This braught to mind to question the necessity of having a > unified buffer I/O subsystem. In a truely compartmentalized system, the VM > could have had nothing to do with data files I/O. Yet, even that would not > have saved us from a bug. One of the virtues of Unix is a unified kernel. > Any bug effectes any system. > Our recent bugs were actually in the VFS code. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 17:54:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17926 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:54:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17910 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:54:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 6001 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 02:00:00 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 02:00:00 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:00:00 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Karl Denninger Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status Cc: Terry Lambert , dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Mar-98 Karl Denninger wrote: ... > The equivalent of IBM's jfs fixes that complaint rather thoroughly. > > I don't know if you've ever seen one of these come up after a crash, but > it is rather impressive to see the system roll forward (or back) the > transactions to the filesystem and come up in seconds - with 100GB+ of > data online. Yup. Seen that. Veritas claims to model that for Unix with a certain degree of success. > The other "cute" thing is that you can extend a jfs volume while the > system > is online; that's a very cute feature. Veritas does that too. I belive we may see such functionality for FreeBSD some day soon. > jfs is a monstrous pig for some uses however (its allocation size is > larger > than ffs) and for that reason its useless for things like news servers - > but > for regular applications its fantastic. > > I hated AIX when I had to work with it, but the one thing you simply > couldn't argue with was their jfs filesystem. I belive allocation resolution to be one of many tunable parameters. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 17:56:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18180 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:56:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18138; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id TAA00184; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:55:58 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id TAA15911; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:55:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980322195557.03039@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:55:57 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Cc: Terry Lambert , dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status References: <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: ; from Simon Shapiro on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 06:00:00PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 06:00:00PM -0800, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > On 23-Mar-98 Karl Denninger wrote: > > ... > > > The equivalent of IBM's jfs fixes that complaint rather thoroughly. > > > > I don't know if you've ever seen one of these come up after a crash, but > > it is rather impressive to see the system roll forward (or back) the > > transactions to the filesystem and come up in seconds - with 100GB+ of > > data online. > > Yup. Seen that. Veritas claims to model that for Unix with a certain > degree of success. > > > The other "cute" thing is that you can extend a jfs volume while the > > system > > is online; that's a very cute feature. > > Veritas does that too. I belive we may see such functionality for FreeBSD > some day soon. > > > jfs is a monstrous pig for some uses however (its allocation size is > > larger > > than ffs) and for that reason its useless for things like news servers - > > but > > for regular applications its fantastic. > > > > I hated AIX when I had to work with it, but the one thing you simply > > couldn't argue with was their jfs filesystem. > > I belive allocation resolution to be one of many tunable parameters. Maybe it is now - I was using it back in the 3.0/3.1 days (~4 years ago+) and it wasn't rational to use it for the "gazillions of small files" case then. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 18:16:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23182 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23177 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:16:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18668; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:46:49 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id MAA09069; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:46:48 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980323124648.60096@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:46:48 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status References: <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Simon Shapiro on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 06:00:00PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 March 1998 at 18:00:00 -0800, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > On 23-Mar-98 Karl Denninger wrote: > > ... > >> The equivalent of IBM's jfs fixes that complaint rather thoroughly. >> >> I don't know if you've ever seen one of these come up after a crash, but >> it is rather impressive to see the system roll forward (or back) the >> transactions to the filesystem and come up in seconds - with 100GB+ of >> data online. > > Yup. Seen that. Veritas claims to model that for Unix with a certain > degree of success. > >> The other "cute" thing is that you can extend a jfs volume while >> the system is online; that's a very cute feature. > > Veritas does that too. I belive we may see such functionality for FreeBSD > some day soon. You can extend a vinum volume while it's online. That doesn't extend the file system, of course--that's more likely to be somebody else's project :-) >> jfs is a monstrous pig for some uses however (its allocation size >> is larger than ffs) and for that reason its useless for things like >> news servers - but for regular applications its fantastic. >> >> I hated AIX when I had to work with it, but the one thing you simply >> couldn't argue with was their jfs filesystem. > > I belive allocation resolution to be one of many tunable parameters. It certainly is in Veritas, and that makes sense. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 18:21:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23987 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:21:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from delirium.eng.bellsouth.net (delirium.eng.bellsouth.net [205.152.6.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23932; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chk@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net) Received: (from chk@localhost) by delirium.eng.bellsouth.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24485; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:21:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980322212121.26400@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:21:21 -0500 From: Christian Kuhtz To: Karl Denninger , shimon@simon-shapiro.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status References: <19980322183922.14684@mcs.net> <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 In-Reply-To: <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net>; from Karl Denninger on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 07:12:53PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The other "cute" thing is that you can extend a jfs volume while the system > is online; that's a very cute feature. Or migrate it from one physical volume to another while it is online. Or.. (a whole host of 24x7 neato features excluded) Well, ask me offline if you really want to know ;-) > jfs is a monstrous pig for some uses however (its allocation size is larger > than ffs) and for that reason its useless for things like news servers - but > for regular applications its fantastic. Actually, that has changed in AIX4 when AIX learned about fragments. And if memory serves, allocation sizes/blocks were always tunable even before that. Now that you have fragments in JFS, and it makes life a whole lot nicer. > I hated AIX when I had to work with it, but the one thing you simply > couldn't argue with was their jfs filesystem. The AIX learning curve is tough. The nice thing to me is that they really tried to get to a point where you never have to suspend operations (Sun's famous Stop-A kludge) or reboot to run your box and adopt to changes in your environment or failures thereof. Plus, Journaled Filessystems are deeply ingrained in the OS, and not an afterthought like in Sun's nasty ODS. I wish I had a jfs in FreeBSD. Cheers, Chris (just rejoined freebsd-hackers after years of absence ;-) -- Christian Kuhtz (770) 522-4000 BellSouth.net Sr. Network Architect I speak only for myself, and my opinion belongs to me. Atlanta, GA, U.S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 18:25:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24787 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:25:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from delirium.eng.bellsouth.net (delirium.eng.bellsouth.net [205.152.6.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24684; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chk@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net) Received: (from chk@localhost) by delirium.eng.bellsouth.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24500; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:25:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980322212500.62632@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:25:00 -0500 From: Christian Kuhtz To: Karl Denninger , shimon@simon-shapiro.org Cc: Terry Lambert , dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status References: <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net> <19980322195557.03039@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 In-Reply-To: <19980322195557.03039@mcs.net>; from Karl Denninger on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 07:55:57PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mar 22, Karl Denninger wrote: > > Maybe it is now - I was using it back in the 3.0/3.1 days (~4 years ago+) > and it wasn't rational to use it for the "gazillions of small files" case > then. Sheesh, AIX3.0/3.1 4yrs ago was already ancient ;-).. Any reasonable shop went to AIX3.2 ASAP. Even for a seasoned AIX admin, 3.0 and 3.1 are frightening beasts. Cheers, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz (770) 522-4000 BellSouth.net Sr. Network Architect I speak only for myself, and my opinion belongs to me. Atlanta, GA, U.S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 18:28:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25658 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:28:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25649; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:28:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA00970; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:28:20 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id UAA16294; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:28:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980322202819.07806@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:28:19 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Christian Kuhtz Cc: shimon@simon-shapiro.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status References: <19980322183922.14684@mcs.net> <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net> <19980322212121.26400@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <19980322212121.26400@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net>; from Christian Kuhtz on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:21:21PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:21:21PM -0500, Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > jfs is a monstrous pig for some uses however (its allocation size is larger > > than ffs) and for that reason its useless for things like news servers - but > > for regular applications its fantastic. > > Actually, that has changed in AIX4 when AIX learned about fragments. And if > memory serves, allocation sizes/blocks were always tunable even before that. > Now that you have fragments in JFS, and it makes life a whole lot nicer. Aha.. They finally fixed that. > > I hated AIX when I had to work with it, but the one thing you simply > > couldn't argue with was their jfs filesystem. > > The AIX learning curve is tough. The nice thing to me is that they really > tried to get to a point where you never have to suspend operations (Sun's > famous Stop-A kludge) or reboot to run your box and adopt to changes in your > environment or failures thereof. Yep. Actually, the learning curve isn't that bad - if you know System V (which AIX really is very close to internally). I used to do all kinds of neat things with it, like displaying system status and load on the LEDs on the front of the machines..... I used RS6000s as "non-stop" servers in a production environment back at VideOcart, and absent a really severe hardware failure they pretty much just kept going, and going... There were some nasty security problems with certain releases, and horrid performance trouble with the Ethernet cards for a while (including memory leaks in the mbuf cluster code) which IBM took forever and a day to fix... that wasn't impressive at all. All the "quick recovery" features aren't worth crap if the OS is full of bugs. But I still liked the jfs filesystems. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 18:29:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25908 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:29:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25855; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18678; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:59:12 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id MAA09145; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:59:08 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980323125908.46814@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:59:08 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Christian Kuhtz , Karl Denninger , shimon@simon-shapiro.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status References: <19980322183922.14684@mcs.net> <19980322191253.31345@mcs.net> <19980322212121.26400@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980322212121.26400@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net>; from Christian Kuhtz on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:21:21PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 March 1998 at 21:21:21 -0500, Christian Kuhtz wrote: >> The other "cute" thing is that you can extend a jfs volume while the system >> is online; that's a very cute feature. > > Or migrate it from one physical volume to another while it is online. Or.. > (a whole host of 24x7 neato features excluded) Well, ask me offline if you > really want to know ;-) vinum does that too. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 18:40:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27462 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:40:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27451 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id WAA20871 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:30:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA16172; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:25:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980322222552.44570@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:25:52 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared lib problem ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! During my work on updating the postgresql port I stepped into a problem, that pgacces isn't able anymore, to load the postgresql .so files ... When I committed the postgresql 6.2.1 and pgaccess port months ago everything was fine with current. But now it fails. Marc Fournier confirmed, that he also has this problem with -current. andreas@titan{459} $ pgaccess Error in startup script: couldn't load file "/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so": Undefined symbol "_PQsetdb" in wish8.0:/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so while executing "load /usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so" (procedure "main" line 3) invoked from within "main $argc $argv" (file "/usr/local/bin/pgaccess" line 3172) Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 18:48:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28450 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:48:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28445 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA01681; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:48:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id UAA16517; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:48:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980322204825.35204@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:48:25 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Andreas Klemm Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared lib problem ? References: <19980322222552.44570@klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <19980322222552.44570@klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 10:25:52PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ahem. Folks, Postgres 6.3 requires that you make VERY certain that you have the proper versions of the shared libraries out there. What you're seeing is consistent with that not being the case. We run Postgres in *production* here, and currently use 6.3. Other than some really odd things with date offsets, I've had no significant trouble with the 6.3 release. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 10:25:52PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Hi ! > > During my work on updating the postgresql port I stepped into > a problem, that pgacces isn't able anymore, to load the postgresql > .so files ... > > When I committed the postgresql 6.2.1 and pgaccess port months ago > everything was fine with current. But now it fails. > > Marc Fournier confirmed, that he also has this problem with -current. > > andreas@titan{459} $ pgaccess > Error in startup script: couldn't load file "/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so": Undefined symbol "_PQsetdb" in wish8.0:/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so > while executing > "load /usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so" > (procedure "main" line 3) > invoked from within > "main $argc $argv" > (file "/usr/local/bin/pgaccess" line 3172) > > Andreas /// > > -- > Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas > powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 19:25:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02602 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02585 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:25:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10453; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:24:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:24:18 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Andreas Klemm cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared lib problem ? In-Reply-To: <19980322222552.44570@klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Hi ! > > During my work on updating the postgresql port I stepped into > a problem, that pgacces isn't able anymore, to load the postgresql > .so files ... > > When I committed the postgresql 6.2.1 and pgaccess port months ago > everything was fine with current. But now it fails. > > Marc Fournier confirmed, that he also has this problem with -current. > > andreas@titan{459} $ pgaccess > Error in startup script: couldn't load file "/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so": Undefined symbol "_PQsetdb" in wish8.0:/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so > while executing > "load /usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so" > (procedure "main" line 3) > invoked from within > "main $argc $argv" > (file "/usr/local/bin/pgaccess" line 3172) I haven't done it lately, but way back when I was experimenting with using the dlopen functions to load stuff into tcl, the things that had to be compiled, had to be compiled as shared objects, but they weren't the same as shared libraries. You could make a simple object file compile as a shared object, which would come out as a object.so file (replace object with whatever name comes to mind) not as a libobject.so file. I think strongly that you'd want to take a look at the linking line that produces the libpgtcl.so .... it's probably not making the correct type object. I found the error last time I played with it by carefully catching every error return from dlopen stuff, and working with the ld args until it loaded right. I don't remember the args I used, but it wasn't the same as building a shared library, and that's probably what's biting. > > Andreas /// > > -- > Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas > powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 19:26:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02830 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02823 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:26:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 28873 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 03:32:18 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 03:32:18 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980322195557.03039@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:32:18 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Karl Denninger Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel Status Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Mar-98 Karl Denninger wrote: .. > Maybe it is now - I was using it back in the 3.0/3.1 days (~4 years ago+) > and it wasn't rational to use it for the "gazillions of small files" case > then. Filesystems are engineering products. As such, they represent a compromise towards a design goal. News (or e-mail) far exceed the design goals for any reasonable Unix filesystem, in more than one way. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 19:34:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04306 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:34:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA04301 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:34:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 29076 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 03:39:49 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 03:39:49 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980322222552.44570@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:39:49 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Andreas Klemm Subject: RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 22-Mar-98 Andreas Klemm wrote: > Hi ! > > During my work on updating the postgresql port I stepped into > a problem, that pgacces isn't able anymore, to load the postgresql > .so files ... > > When I committed the postgresql 6.2.1 and pgaccess port months ago > everything was fine with current. But now it fails. 6.3? Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 21:21:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26019 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:21:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-35.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26008 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:21:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id BAA15555; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:20:41 -0400 (AST) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:20:41 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Karl Denninger cc: Andreas Klemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared lib problem ? In-Reply-To: <19980322204825.35204@mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > Ahem. > > Folks, Postgres 6.3 requires that you make VERY certain that you have the > proper versions of the shared libraries out there. Since my home machine only has the most recent PostgreSQL installed, and since I'm one of those that pops up with "are you sure you removed the old libraries" when someone asks...I don't believe this to be the problem...in fact, it was the first thing I checked when Andreas prompted me to check whether pgaccess worked here or not... > We run Postgres in *production* here, and currently use 6.3. Other than > some really odd things with date offsets, I've had no significant trouble > with the 6.3 release. Are you running pgaccess/libpgtcl? I know this works fine on my Solaris machines at work, its just the FreeBSD machine here at home that it doesn't work under... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 21:22:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26265 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-35.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26257 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:22:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id BAA15566; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:22:11 -0400 (AST) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:22:11 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Simon Shapiro cc: Andreas Klemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > On 22-Mar-98 Andreas Klemm wrote: > > Hi ! > > > > During my work on updating the postgresql port I stepped into > > a problem, that pgacces isn't able anymore, to load the postgresql > > .so files ... > > > > When I committed the postgresql 6.2.1 and pgaccess port months ago > > everything was fine with current. But now it fails. > > 6.3? Actually, 6.3.1 now...we're just about to put out a *post-release* patch based on some bugs that leaked through... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 23:15:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12821 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:15:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA12799 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 8346 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 07:19:27 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 07:19:27 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:19:27 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Andreas Klemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Mar-98 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > >> >> On 22-Mar-98 Andreas Klemm wrote: >> > Hi ! >> > >> > During my work on updating the postgresql port I stepped into >> > a problem, that pgacces isn't able anymore, to load the postgresql >> > .so files ... >> > >> > When I committed the postgresql 6.2.1 and pgaccess port months ago >> > everything was fine with current. But now it fails. >> >> 6.3? > > Actually, 6.3.1 now...we're just about to put out a *post-release* > patch based on some bugs that leaked through... I am earnestly compiling... Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 22 23:38:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20040 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:38:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA20007 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:37:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 11213 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 07:42:53 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 07:42:53 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:42:53 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Simon Shapiro Subject: RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li Cc: Andreas Klemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG, The Hermit Hacker Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Mar-98 Simon Shapiro wrote: .. >> Actually, 6.3.1 now...we're just about to put out a *post-release* >> patch based on some bugs that leaked through... > > I am earnestly compiling... OK. With PostgreSQL CVSup'ed ten minutes ago: a. --with-perl fails to compile with some syntax errors b. --with-tcl fails to do anything usefu; c. Manually compiling fails, as the ports .mk file insists that all ``generic'' tcl headers be removed, and thus there is no /usr/local/include/tcl.h. this was fixed in src/pgsql/src/interfaces/Makefile. d. /usr/local/bin/wish8.1 -f ~/src/pgsql/src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl produced: Error in startup script: couldn't load file "libpgtcl.so": Undefined symbol "_PQnotifies" in wish8.1:libpgtcl.so while executing "load libpgtcl.so" (procedure "main" line 3) invoked from within "main $argc $argv So it is sort of broken :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 01:56:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18749 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:56:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18743 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:56:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11771; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:56:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803230956.BAA11771@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Chuck Robey cc: Andreas Klemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared lib problem ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:24:18 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:56:16 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Whats missing is a line similar to this: cc -L/usr/local/lib -lcrypt -lcompat -lln -lm -lreadline -ltermcap -lcurses -L ../../interfaces/libpq -lpq -shared pgtcl.o pgtclCmds.o pgtclId.o -o libpgtcl.so.1.0 And I got that line from the old postgres port. I just compiled postgres3.1 locally here and it appears to work with pgaccess. Have Fun, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 05:18:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12874 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 05:18:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12868 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 05:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id IAA06033; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:18:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:18:27 -0500 (EST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Simon Shapiro cc: Andreas Klemm , pgsql-ports@postgresql.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > On 23-Mar-98 Simon Shapiro wrote: > > .. > > >> Actually, 6.3.1 now...we're just about to put out a *post-release* > >> patch based on some bugs that leaked through... > > > > I am earnestly compiling... > > OK. With PostgreSQL CVSup'ed ten minutes ago: > > a. --with-perl fails to compile with some syntax errors > b. --with-tcl fails to do anything usefu; More fixes for this went in this morning... > c. Manually compiling fails, as the ports .mk file insists that all > ``generic'' tcl headers be removed, and thus there is no > /usr/local/include/tcl.h. this was fixed in > src/pgsql/src/interfaces/Makefile. Where do the .mk files fall into this?? > d. /usr/local/bin/wish8.1 -f ~/src/pgsql/src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl > produced: > > Error in startup script: couldn't load file "libpgtcl.so": Undefined symbol > "_PQnotifies" in wish8.1:libpgtcl.so > while executing > "load libpgtcl.so" > (procedure "main" line 3) > invoked from within > "main $argc $argv Known bug, but apparently just FreeBSD related...at least insofar as I can't reproduce it under Solaris, just under FreeBSD... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 05:50:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16871 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 05:50:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16826 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 05:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA25415 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:48:26 +1100 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:48:26 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803231348.AAA25415@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libtcl Makefile Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Modified files: > lib/libtcl Makefile > Log: > Regenerate (install tclAppInit.c in the installhdrs step). This seems to be a good test of nfs. Regeneration with the source tree nfsv3-mounted consistently produces binary garbage (with a block of not quite 4K \0's near the end of the file). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 06:31:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22432 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22416 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:31:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12842 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199803231430.JAA12842@hda.hda.com> Subject: p1003.1b To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:30:02 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone wishing to review Posix 1003.1b changes, header files, man pages, and future plans will find them on freefall in ~dufault/p1003_1b.tgz. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 08:58:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18476 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jeeves.egr.msu.edu (jeeves.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA18453 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:58:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mcdougall@ameritech.net) Received: from ameritech.net by jeeves.egr.msu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA04320; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:58:38 -0500 Message-ID: <351694BD.D6100151@ameritech.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:58:37 -0500 From: Adam Ryan Mcdougall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bounce buffer problem(?) with scsi tape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have a external scsi tape attached to one of my machines and it seems no matter what I try it keeps doing this: # tar -zcv X332contrib.tgz X332contrib.tgz tar (child): can't write to /dev/rst0 : Input/output error Broken pipe console blats out: aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1f1bd10 st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 Where the 0x1f1bd10 is different every time. Yeah, I have bounce buffers in my kernel, and this is a isa scsi card in a system with 64 megs of ram. It has run various dates of -current with the latest being from Monday, March 23rd. Any light shed on this problem would be appreciative. (Note: It did work correctly ONCE and only once, who knows why) Heres my kernel conf file and my dmesg: # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.77.2.12 1997/10/18 11:03:10 joerg Exp $ machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" #cpu "I686_CPU" ident CARTMAN maxusers 80 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options "TUNE_1542" options SCSI_DELAY=10 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor #options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 #controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency #controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr #disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 #options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus #options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM #device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. #controller ncr0 #controller amd0 #controller ahb0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector bt_isa_intr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seai controller scbus0 device sd0 device od0 #See LINT for possible `od' options. device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" flags 0x1 irq 13 vector npxintr # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # #device apm0 at isa? disable # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller crd0 #device pcic0 at crd? #device pcic1 at crd? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr #device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr #device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr #device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr #device psm0 at isa? disable port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vecto # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device tx0 #device fxp0 #device vx0 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ie1 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ex0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 vector exintr #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? vector feintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether #pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device vn 4 #pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM pseudo-device ccd 3 pseudo-device snp 4 options USER_LDT pseudo-device bpfilter 4 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Mar 23 11:14:18 EST 1998 mcdouga9@cartman.egr.msu.edu:/u3/src/sys/compile/CARTMAN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz cost 3028 ns Timecounter "TSC" frequency 118951557 Hz cost 294 ns CPU: Pentium (118.95-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 62971904 (61496K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.1 ide_pci: controller is simplex, no DMA on secondary channel tx0: rev 0x06 int a irq 11 on pci0.18.0 tx0: address 00:e0:29:0e:68:5a, type SMC9432TX, phy QS6612, Auto-Neg 100Mbps Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc1 not found at 0x170 100 nSEC ok, using 150 nSEC aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 10 drq 5 on isa aha0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at aha0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 499MB (1023484 512 byte sectors) sd1 at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 520MB (1065235 512 byte sectors) cd0 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM can't get the size sd2 at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 sd2: type 0 fixed SCSI 1 sd2: Direct-Access 608MB (1245420 512 byte sectors) sd3 at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 sd3: type 0 fixed SCSI 1 sd3: Direct-Access 631MB (1294260 512 byte sectors) st0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 st0: type 1 removable SCSI 1 st0: Sequential-Access density code 0x0, 1024-byte blocks, write-enabled npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround ccd0-2: Concatenated disk drivers changing root device to sd0s1a aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x327fd10 st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x2c06d10 aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1f1bd10 st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1f62d10 aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1fa2d10 st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 09:37:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24689 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:37:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24665 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:37:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yHB9m-00078E-00; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:37:06 -0800 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:37:04 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Adam Ryan Mcdougall cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bounce buffer problem(?) with scsi tape In-Reply-To: <351694BD.D6100151@ameritech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Adam Ryan Mcdougall wrote: > aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1f1bd10 .. > Yeah, I have bounce buffers in my kernel, and this is a isa scsi card in > a system with 64 megs of ram. It has run various dates of -current with I don't believe that bounce buffers actually work in current anymore. Some other change seems to have broken them. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 10:13:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00496 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:13:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00486 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:13:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 2076 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 18:12:08 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 18:12:08 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:12:08 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgresql.org, Andreas Klemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Mar-98 The Hermit Hacker wrote: .. >> > I am earnestly compiling... >> >> OK. With PostgreSQL CVSup'ed ten minutes ago: >> >> a. --with-perl fails to compile with some syntax errors > >> b. --with-tcl fails to do anything usefu; > > More fixes for this went in this morning... I'll check again this morning. >> c. Manually compiling fails, as the ports .mk file insists that all >> ``generic'' tcl headers be removed, and thus there is no >> /usr/local/include/tcl.h. this was fixed in >> src/pgsql/src/interfaces/Makefile. > > Where do the .mk files fall into this?? They insist that all traces of /usr/local/include/tcl.h, /usr/local/lib/libtcl.* are removed before any tcl/tk will be built. There was a whole thread on this. Sorry. Not the ports tree, but make world or something. The FreeBSD ``port'' of PostgreSQL needs to acomodate this. >> d. /usr/local/bin/wish8.1 -f ~/src/pgsql/src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl >> produced: >> >> Error in startup script: couldn't load file "libpgtcl.so": Undefined >> symbol >> "_PQnotifies" in wish8.1:libpgtcl.so >> while executing >> "load libpgtcl.so" >> (procedure "main" line 3) >> invoked from within >> "main $argc $argv > > Known bug, but apparently just FreeBSD related...at least insofar > as I can't reproduce it under Solaris, just under FreeBSD... To me most of tcl looks like (most likely) Hebrew to you :-) I really cannot fix it with any reasonable efficiency :-(( Any volunteers? Access to a machine can be made to trusty parties. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 10:44:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06495 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:44:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [207.170.17.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06331 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:43:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23417 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:43:46 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id MAA13505; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:43:15 -0600 Message-ID: <19980323124314.36849@right.PCS> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:43:14 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BIOS calls Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm about to add support to -current for calling real-mode BIOS functions from the kernel. The first use of this will be to get the correct memory size from INT 15:E820/E801/88 calls. Most changes are bracketed by #ifdef VM86 calls, so there should almost no differences if this is not defined. However, I would like to see the VM86 option disappear, or at least become mandatory, so please test these out. This will be followed shortly by the ability to use 16-bit protected-mode calls, and the conversion of APM to use the new interface. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 10:50:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07639 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:50:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07538 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:50:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00606; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:49:09 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199803231849.TAA00606@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-Reply-To: <19980323124314.36849@right.PCS> from Jonathan Lemon at "Mar 23, 98 12:43:14 pm" To: jlemon@americantv.com (Jonathan Lemon) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:49:08 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Jonathan Lemon who wrote: > > I'm about to add support to -current for calling real-mode BIOS > functions from the kernel. The first use of this will be to get > the correct memory size from INT 15:E820/E801/88 calls. eeeiiii haaaa... Will this enable me to call the VESA BIOS functions too ??? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 10:52:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08158 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (root@s5-03.ppp.op.net [209.152.195.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08035 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maillist@candle.pha.pa.us) Received: (from maillist@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22081; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:42:44 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <199803231842.NAA22081@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: [PORTS] RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:42:44 -0500 (EST) Cc: scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com In-Reply-To: from "Simon Shapiro" at Mar 23, 98 10:12:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > They insist that all traces of /usr/local/include/tcl.h, > /usr/local/lib/libtcl.* are removed before any tcl/tk will be built. > There was a whole thread on this. Sorry. Not the ports tree, but make > world or something. The FreeBSD ``port'' of PostgreSQL needs to acomodate > this. Yes, this was a bug in the configure stuff, where if it found something in /usr/include, it made TCL_INCDIR="", so the compile did -I with no directory name, and it took the next file as the include directory and failed. This will be fixed in today's release of 6.3.1. > > >> d. /usr/local/bin/wish8.1 -f ~/src/pgsql/src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl > >> produced: > >> > >> Error in startup script: couldn't load file "libpgtcl.so": Undefined > >> symbol > >> "_PQnotifies" in wish8.1:libpgtcl.so > >> while executing > >> "load libpgtcl.so" > >> (procedure "main" line 3) > >> invoked from within > >> "main $argc $argv > > > > Known bug, but apparently just FreeBSD related...at least insofar > > as I can't reproduce it under Solaris, just under FreeBSD... > > To me most of tcl looks like (most likely) Hebrew to you :-) I really > cannot fix it with any reasonable efficiency :-(( > > Any volunteers? Access to a machine can be made to trusty parties. Not sure about FreeBSD, but I have it working on BSDI by creating a shared library version of libpgtcl, and change pgaccess to use that library name. -- Bruce Momjian | 830 Blythe Avenue maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 + If your life is a hard drive, | (610) 353-9879(w) + Christ can be your backup. | (610) 853-3000(h) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 10:57:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09033 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:57:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [207.170.17.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08868; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:56:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23443; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:56:21 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id MAA17313; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:55:49 -0600 Message-ID: <19980323125549.48097@right.PCS> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:55:49 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIOS calls References: <19980323124314.36849@right.PCS> <199803231849.TAA00606@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199803231849=2ETAA00606=40sos=2Efreebsd=2Edk=3E=3B_fro?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?m_S=F8ren_Schmidt_on_Mar_03=2C_1998_at_07=3A49=3A08PM_+01?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?00?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mar 03, 1998 at 07:49:08PM +0100, Søren Schmidt wrote: > In reply to Jonathan Lemon who wrote: > > > > I'm about to add support to -current for calling real-mode BIOS > > functions from the kernel. The first use of this will be to get > > the correct memory size from INT 15:E820/E801/88 calls. > > eeeiiii haaaa... > > Will this enable me to call the VESA BIOS functions too ??? Why, yes, why do you ask? :-) Fill in the blanks below: #if 0 /* VESA setup -- ? */ vmf.vmf_ax = 0x4f02; error = vm86_intcall(0x10, &vmf); #endif -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 11:13:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12739 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12643; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00693; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:12:26 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199803231912.UAA00693@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-Reply-To: <19980323125549.48097@right.PCS> from Jonathan Lemon at "Mar 23, 98 12:55:49 pm" To: jlemon@americantv.com (Jonathan Lemon) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:12:25 +0100 (MET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Jonathan Lemon who wrote: > On Mar 03, 1998 at 07:49:08PM +0100, Søren Schmidt wrote: > > In reply to Jonathan Lemon who wrote: > > > > > > I'm about to add support to -current for calling real-mode BIOS > > > functions from the kernel. The first use of this will be to get > > > the correct memory size from INT 15:E820/E801/88 calls. > > > > eeeiiii haaaa... > > > > Will this enable me to call the VESA BIOS functions too ??? > > Why, yes, why do you ask? :-) Fill in the blanks below: > > #if 0 > /* VESA setup -- ? */ > vmf.vmf_ax = 0x4f02; > error = vm86_intcall(0x10, &vmf); > #endif Yeppie! when will the code hit the tree ?? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 11:17:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13864 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:17:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13342; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:15:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24748; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:18:28 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:18:27 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= cc: Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-Reply-To: <199803231849.TAA00606@sos.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Søren Schmidt wrote: > In reply to Jonathan Lemon who wrote: > > > > I'm about to add support to -current for calling real-mode BIOS > > functions from the kernel. The first use of this will be to get > > the correct memory size from INT 15:E820/E801/88 calls. > > eeeiiii haaaa... hip, hip, hurrayyy!!! Does it mean there are chances for userland video library supporting hi-res graphics? :-)) Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 11:23:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15406 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:23:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [207.170.17.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15167; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:22:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23529; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:22:02 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id NAA22289; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:21:30 -0600 Message-ID: <19980323132130.50051@right.PCS> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:21:30 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: ????????????? , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIOS calls References: <199803231849.TAA00606@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Andrzej Bialecki on Mar 03, 1998 at 08:18:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mar 03, 1998 at 08:18:27PM +0100, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: [Warning! ISO-8859-2 is not compatible with your display.] > On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > In reply to Jonathan Lemon who wrote: > > > > > > I'm about to add support to -current for calling real-mode BIOS > > > functions from the kernel. The first use of this will be to get > > > the correct memory size from INT 15:E820/E801/88 calls. > > > > eeeiiii haaaa... > > hip, hip, hurrayyy!!! > > Does it mean there are chances for userland video library supporting > hi-res graphics? :-)) Probably; I think you'd have to talk to Soren about that. I don't know anything about graphics, other than they look pretty. :-) Note that this functionality is intended only for kernel consumption, not user-space applications like doscmd. In particular, when making a vm86() call, logically kernel stays at ring 0, meaning that no context switches are allowed. I'm working on a general user-space vm86() function as well. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 11:37:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20353 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:37:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20285 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 3836 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 19:42:45 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 19:42:45 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803231842.NAA22081@candle.pha.pa.us> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:42:45 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Bruce Momjian Subject: Re: [PORTS] RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possib Cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@hub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Mar-98 Bruce Momjian wrote: >> They insist that all traces of /usr/local/include/tcl.h, >> /usr/local/lib/libtcl.* are removed before any tcl/tk will be built. >> There was a whole thread on this. Sorry. Not the ports tree, but make >> world or something. The FreeBSD ``port'' of PostgreSQL needs to >> acomodate >> this. > > Yes, this was a bug in the configure stuff, where if it found something > in /usr/include, it made TCL_INCDIR="", so the compile did -I with no > directory name, and it took the next file as the include directory and > failed. > > This will be fixed in today's release of 6.3.1. Could you please let me knwo when the cvsuup server has been updated? ... > Not sure about FreeBSD, but I have it working on BSDI by creating a > shared library version of libpgtcl, and change pgaccess to use that > library name. Good news. Now, please tell me: a. How/what to do to create a shared libpgtcl? I have the make process (after fixing it to include correctly) produce a libpgtcl.so.1.0 with a symlink to libpgtcl.so b. How do I convince pgaccess to use that library? BTW, where is the executable pgaccess? My guess is that it is some sort of a wish shell, which knowns about pg, etc. But what produces it and how? ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 11:44:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22369 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:44:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (maillist@s5-03.ppp.op.net [209.152.195.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22259 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maillist@candle.pha.pa.us) Received: (from maillist@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA25534; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:43:44 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <199803231943.OAA25534@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: [PORTS] RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibh To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:43:44 -0500 (EST) Cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@hub.org In-Reply-To: from "Simon Shapiro" at Mar 23, 98 11:42:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > On 23-Mar-98 Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> They insist that all traces of /usr/local/include/tcl.h, > >> /usr/local/lib/libtcl.* are removed before any tcl/tk will be built. > >> There was a whole thread on this. Sorry. Not the ports tree, but make > >> world or something. The FreeBSD ``port'' of PostgreSQL needs to > >> acomodate > >> this. > > > > Yes, this was a bug in the configure stuff, where if it found something > > in /usr/include, it made TCL_INCDIR="", so the compile did -I with no > > directory name, and it took the next file as the include directory and > > failed. > > > > This will be fixed in today's release of 6.3.1. > > Could you please let me knwo when the cvsuup server has been updated? cvsup is updated now. > > ... > > > Not sure about FreeBSD, but I have it working on BSDI by creating a > > shared library version of libpgtcl, and change pgaccess to use that > > library name. > > Good news. Now, please tell me: > > a. How/what to do to create a shared libpgtcl? I have the make process > (after fixing it to include correctly) produce a libpgtcl.so.1.0 with a > symlink to libpgtcl.so I think that is all it takes. > b. How do I convince pgaccess to use that library? BTW, where is the > executable pgaccess? My guess is that it is some sort of a wish shell, > which knowns about pg, etc. But what produces it and how? The executable is src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl. I have to find the libpqtcl.so line, and edit it. -- Bruce Momjian | 830 Blythe Avenue maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 + If your life is a hard drive, | (610) 353-9879(w) + Christ can be your backup. | (610) 853-3000(h) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 12:07:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28291 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:07:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28259; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:06:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00874; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:05:43 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199803232005.VAA00874@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-Reply-To: <19980323132130.50051@right.PCS> from Jonathan Lemon at "Mar 23, 98 01:21:30 pm" To: jlemon@americantv.com (Jonathan Lemon) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:05:43 +0100 (MET) Cc: abial@nask.pl, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Jonathan Lemon who wrote: > > > In reply to Jonathan Lemon who wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm about to add support to -current for calling real-mode BIOS > > > > functions from the kernel. The first use of this will be to get > > > > the correct memory size from INT 15:E820/E801/88 calls. > > > > > > eeeiiii haaaa... > > > > hip, hip, hurrayyy!!! > > > > Does it mean there are chances for userland video library supporting > > hi-res graphics? :-)) > > Probably; I think you'd have to talk to Soren about that. I don't > know anything about graphics, other than they look pretty. :-) I'll be watching this closely and add the needed stuff to syscons/libvgl as soon as possible.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 12:38:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02010 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:38:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02004 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:38:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id NAA04437; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:35:23 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:35:23 -0700 (MST) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199803232035.NAA04437@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Tom cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bounce buffer problem(?) with scsi tape Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Yeah, I have bounce buffers in my kernel, and this is a isa scsi card in >> a system with 64 megs of ram. It has run various dates of -current with > > I don't believe that bounce buffers actually work in current anymore. > Some other change seems to have broken them. It's not that they don't work, but that the SCSI code does some things that make it very difficult for them to work. The AdvanSys driver in CAM for ISA controllers does not have this problem and I fully expect that the 1542 driver will also be corrected by CAM. > Tom -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 12:58:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06751 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:58:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06700 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelh@cet.co.jp) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.8/CET-v2.2) with SMTP id UAA05837 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:57:42 GMT Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:57:41 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: maxusers 0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I heard that bsdi autosizes if maxusers is 0. I think this is a good idea and it would help minimize benchmarking configuration errors done by people who don't understand FreeBSD well enough. Regards, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 13:01:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07077 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:01:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dean.pc.sas.com (sas90162.sas.com [192.58.190.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07047 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdean@dean.pc.sas.com) Received: (from brdean@localhost) by dean.pc.sas.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03049; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:59:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brdean) Message-Id: <199803232059.PAA03049@dean.pc.sas.com> From: "Brian Dean" Subject: sysinstall problem - umount /dist To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:59:57 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: brdean@unx.sas.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using a scripted installation to install FreeBSD and find that when the system boots for the first time after the install, 'fsck' complains that the disks have not be unmounted cleanly and begins repairs. In several cases, my system's name and IP address had not been flushed out to 'rc.conf'. This has been happening for several weeks now. I'm 99% sure that it did not occur with the 2/23 SNAP, but I can't narrow it down any more than that. What appears to happen is that the system reboots (without a panic or other message) before completing the umount of /dist. If I to the shell prompt at the main menu after the install completes, but before reboot, and issue 'umount /dist' before exiting, however, all is fine. Has anyone else seen this behavior, and is there a fix? Thanks, -Brian -- Brian Dean brdean@unx.sas.com Process Engineering The SAS Institute Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 13:13:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09676 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:13:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09577 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archer@grape.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: from unicorn.carrier.kiev.ua (unicorn.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.113]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.Who.Cares) with ESMTP id XAA28422 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:12:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from kozlik.carrier.kiev.ua (kozlik.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.111]) by unicorn.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA22501 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:12:21 +0200 (EET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kozlik.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8/8.Who.Cares) with UUCP id XAA21354 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:01:27 +0200 (EET) Received: (from archer@localhost) by grape.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03806; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:55:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from archer) Message-ID: <19980323225550.00204@carrier.kiev.ua> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:55:50 +0200 From: Alexander Litvin To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kernel symbol `IdlePTD' not found. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, everybody! After the recent horror with FS damadge had been claimed to be most likely gone, I decided to upgrade my CURRENT and as a usual first-approximation test, gave it 'make -j16 buildworld'. It paniced. I was going to send a kernel stack trace, but after 'gdb -k' I got the following: (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0 kernel symbol `IdlePTD' not found. (kgdb) What am I missing? BTW, the system paniced quite unusually. It produced kernel message: Panic: vm_object_deallocate: object deallocated too many times: 0 And after that it just stopped -- it allowed to switch consoles, running 'make' responded to '^T', and allowed me to trigger DDB and panic manually (it was that crash dump I attempted to load into kgdb) :-\ --- A classic is something that everyone wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain, "The Disappearance of Literature" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 13:15:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10140 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA10000 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:14:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 12329 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 21:19:48 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 21:19:48 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803231943.OAA25534@candle.pha.pa.us> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:19:48 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Bruce Momjian Subject: Re: [PORTS] RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possib Cc: scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Mar-98 Bruce Momjian wrote: >> >> >> On 23-Mar-98 Bruce Momjian wrote: >> >> They insist that all traces of /usr/local/include/tcl.h, >> >> /usr/local/lib/libtcl.* are removed before any tcl/tk will be built. >> >> There was a whole thread on this. Sorry. Not the ports tree, but >> >> make >> >> world or something. The FreeBSD ``port'' of PostgreSQL needs to >> >> acomodate >> >> this. >> > >> > Yes, this was a bug in the configure stuff, where if it found >> > something >> > in /usr/include, it made TCL_INCDIR="", so the compile did -I with no >> > directory name, and it took the next file as the include directory and >> > failed. >> > >> > This will be fixed in today's release of 6.3.1. >> >> Could you please let me knwo when the cvsuup server has been updated? > > cvsup is updated now. Almost exactly the same result: The library will not install in ~pgsql/lib. I installed by hand; cd ~/src/pgsql/src/interfaces/libpgtcl;make install. I specified in configure --with-tcl, which to my narrow mind, heavily influenced with the 6.2 behavior, it sounds like a bug. .. >> > Not sure about FreeBSD, but I have it working on BSDI by creating a >> > shared library version of libpgtcl, and change pgaccess to use that >> > library name. >> >> Good news. Now, please tell me: >> >> a. How/what to do to create a shared libpgtcl? I have the make process >> (after fixing it to include correctly) produce a libpgtcl.so.1.0 >> with a >> symlink to libpgtcl.so > > I think that is all it takes. Nope. I also did (as root :-), ldconfig -m ~pgsql/lib, and added ~pgsql/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH. >> b. How do I convince pgaccess to use that library? BTW, where is the >> executable pgaccess? My guess is that it is some sort of a wish >> shell, >> which knowns about pg, etc. But what produces it and how? > > The executable is src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl. I have to find the > libpqtcl.so line, and edit it. Not so simple. first, I added both known Unix methods of broadcasting a library (LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and ldconfig), to no avail. Then, I edit pgaccess.tcl, to have the library explicitly specified. Now I get: $ /usr/local/bin/wish8.1 src/pgsql/src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl Error in startup script: couldn't load file "/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so": Undefined symbol "_PQnotifies" in wish8.1:/usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so while executing "load /usr/local/pgsql/lib/libpgtcl.so" (procedure "main" line 3) invoked from within "main $argc $argv " Instead of $ /usr/local/bin/wish8.1 src/pgsql/src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl Error in startup script: couldn't load file "libpgtcl.so": cannot stat "libpgtcl.so" : No such file or directory while executing "load libpgtcl.so" (procedure "main" line 3) invoked from within "main $argc $argv " (file "src/pgsql/src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl" line 4505) This holds true for wish 8.1, 8.0, 4.2, 4.1 This is why I love TCL so much. The concept of backwards compatability, or inter-port compatability has not been discovered yet. I have a customer who needs/likes pgaccess. Any help will be appreciated. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 13:41:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16746 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:41:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16691 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:40:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA23644 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:40:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:40:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: today? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does today's snap have a working SMP Kernel? My appologies for bothering you, but I can't seem to find any errata anywhere describing the changes to each day. Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 13:46:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18179 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:46:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18152 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:46:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA06307; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:45:50 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA20048; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:45:49 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980323224545.18612@follo.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:45:45 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: today? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jonathan A. Zdziarski on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 04:40:53PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 04:40:53PM -0500, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > Does today's snap have a working SMP Kernel? My appologies for bothering > you, but I can't seem to find any errata anywhere describing the changes > to each day. subscribe to the cvs-all mailing list. A mail is sent out for each change, containing a description of the change. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 14:26:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26224 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:26:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26219 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:26:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15304; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:25:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803232225.OAA15304@rah.star-gate.com> To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org cc: Bruce Momjian , scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: [PORTS] RE: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possib In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:19:48 PST." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <15301.890691915.1@rah> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:25:15 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi If you are still having problems with pgaccess by tonite just e-mail me and I will help you . Lets get this topic off the current mailing list since it is not applicable. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 15:23:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08997 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08919 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:22:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27208; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: brdean@unx.sas.com cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall problem - umount /dist In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:59:57 EST." <199803232059.PAA03049@dean.pc.sas.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:22:47 -0800 Message-ID: <27205.890695367@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm using a scripted installation to install FreeBSD and find that > when the system boots for the first time after the install, 'fsck' > complains that the disks have not be unmounted cleanly and begins 1. Can you verify that this is happening with the latest 2.2-stable bits? 2. Can I see your script? Thanks! Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 16:33:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24744 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miro.bestweb.net (miro.bestweb.net [209.94.100.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24708 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:33:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aryder@bestweb.net) Received: from monet.bestweb.net (aryder@monet.bestweb.net [209.94.100.120]) by miro.bestweb.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05331 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:27:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:33:23 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Ryder To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: wierd happening with getty Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mar 23 19:27:47 box getty[7638]: getty exiting due to excessive running time I get these every 15-30 minutes or so.. The kernel was las cvsuped about two weeks ago and compiled kernel right after the mmap stuff. Any clues? --- Andrew Ryder aryder@bestweb.net BestWeb Support Team support@bestweb.net "New Yorks Best Internet Service Provider" www.bestweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 17:06:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00350 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:06:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00332 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:06:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 3627 invoked from network); 24 Mar 1998 01:11:55 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 24 Mar 1998 01:11:55 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803232225.OAA15304@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:11:55 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Amancio Hasty , freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update Cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@hub.org, Bruce Momjian Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With lots of help from many good people, here is how far I got: a. The port still talks about 6.2.1, so forget that. b. When configuring, make sure you specify ``/usr/locl/include/tcl{whatever _version} /usr/local/include/tk{whatever_version}'' c. In configure (you can/should do it to configure.in and regenerate it via autoconf - I'll let YOU figh this one :-) you should specify the explicit libraries, as in TCL_LIB = tcl8.1 and TK_LIB = tk8.1, instead of the generic TCL_LIB = tcl These above steps are curtesy of the changes to the .mk files that deprive FreeBSD from a normal, default tcl/tk installation in an attempt to acomodate all the versions necessary in many different places. More steps: d. Edit src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl to remove the line ``load libpgtcl'' e. Install the above directory someplace sensible (other then the source tree. I put it in ~pgsql/bin/pgaccess.dir f. Write yourself a bit script that does ``pgtksh -f /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pgaccess.ir/pgaccess.tcl'' The script will promptly start very nicely. More Fun: g. Pull down the Database menu, select Open h. Enter your favorite database name and connection data i. Since tcl is interpreted/embedded it is immune to C programming errors. Thus it will promptly generate a segmentation fault and die. j. Post the results to the FreeBSD current list, and to the pgsql list and home the readers still have patience for your klutziness. Have fun! BTW, My offer of a ``free login'' still stands. Oh, did I start from a clean source tree, etc? Yes. I am cross-posting this to freebsd-database, as most -current users do not care about database stuff. Please follow up in freebsd-databases, not free-bsd-current. Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 18:02:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09139 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:02:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dean.pc.sas.com (sas90162.sas.com [192.58.190.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09103 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:02:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdean@dean.pc.sas.com) Received: (from brdean@localhost) by dean.pc.sas.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18768; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:01:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brdean) Message-Id: <199803240201.VAA18768@dean.pc.sas.com> From: "Brian Dean" Subject: Re: sysinstall problem - umount /dist In-Reply-To: <27205.890695367@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 23, 98 03:22:47 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:01:14 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: brdean@unx.sas.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm using a scripted installation to install FreeBSD and find that > > when the system boots for the first time after the install, 'fsck' > > complains that the disks have not be unmounted cleanly and begins > > 1. Can you verify that this is happening with the latest 2.2-stable > bits? I haven't had a chance to see what happens on 2.2-stable. > 2. Can I see your script? Here's the script: ------------------------------------------------------------ # dean.cfg # debug=yes ipaddr=10.16.2.60 hostname=dean.pc.sas.com domainname=pc.sas.com defaultrouter=10.26.0.1 netDev=fxp0 nfs=freebsd.pc.sas.com:/pub/FreeBSD nameserver=149.173.52.113 netmask=255.255.0.0 mediaSetNFS # select distribution sets dists=bin doc manpages proflibs info des compat21 ssecure sebones sbase scontrib sgnu setc sinclude slib slibexec slkm srelease sbin ssbin sshare ssys subin susbin ssmailcf ports X3329set X332bin X332cfg X332doc X332f100 X332fcyr X332fnon X332fnts X332fscl X332fsrv X332html X332jdoc X332jset X332lib X332lk98 X332lkit X332man X332nest X332prog X332prt X332ps X332set X332upd X332vfb Servers/X3328514 Servers/X332AGX Servers/X332I128 Servers/X332Ma32 Servers/X332Ma64 Servers/X332Ma8 Servers/X332Mono Servers/X332P9K Servers/X332S3 Servers/X332S3V Servers/X332SVGA Servers/X332VG16 Servers/X332W32 distSetCustom # first, clear off any existing partitions disk=sd0 partition=exclusive diskPartitionEditor # now set up the disk parition using a partition table entry for FBSD disk=sd0 partition=all bootManager=booteasy diskPartitionEditor # now the slices # 256 Meg /root partition sd0s1-1=ufs 524288 / # 256 Meg swap partition sd0s1-2=swap 524288 none # 256 Meg /var partition sd0s1-3=ufs 524288 /var # all remaining space for /usr partition sd0s1-4=ufs 0 /usr # label the disk diskLabelEditor # finish the install installCommit # install a few packages package=perl-5.00401 packageAdd package=emacs-19.34b packageAdd package=less-332 packageAdd ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Brian Dean brdean@unx.sas.com Process Engineering The SAS Institute Inc. 919.677.8000 x5235 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 18:03:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09281 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:03:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09275 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07941; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:03:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: brdean@unx.sas.com cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall problem - umount /dist In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:01:14 EST." <199803240201.VAA18768@dean.pc.sas.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:03:37 -0800 Message-ID: <7935.890705017@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > # first, clear off any existing partitions > disk=sd0 > partition=exclusive > diskPartitionEditor > > # now set up the disk parition using a partition table entry for FBSD > disk=sd0 > partition=all > bootManager=booteasy > diskPartitionEditor Hmmmm. Why this? Why not simply use "exclusive" and be done with it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 18:09:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10790 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dean.pc.sas.com (sas90162.sas.com [192.58.190.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10782 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:09:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdean@dean.pc.sas.com) Received: (from brdean@localhost) by dean.pc.sas.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18811; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:08:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brdean) Message-Id: <199803240208.VAA18811@dean.pc.sas.com> From: "Brian Dean" Subject: Re: sysinstall problem - umount /dist In-Reply-To: <7935.890705017@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 23, 98 06:03:37 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:08:13 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: brdean@unx.sas.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > # first, clear off any existing partitions > > disk=sd0 > > partition=exclusive > > diskPartitionEditor > > > > # now set up the disk parition using a partition table entry for FBSD > > disk=sd0 > > partition=all > > bootManager=booteasy > > diskPartitionEditor > > Hmmmm. Why this? Why not simply use "exclusive" and be done with it? I was under the impression that 'exclusive' meant 'dangerously dedicated', and I need to keep an FDISK partition table. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 18:17:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12957 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:17:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12947 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:17:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12102; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:17:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: brdean@unx.sas.com cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall problem - umount /dist In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:08:13 EST." <199803240208.VAA18811@dean.pc.sas.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:17:46 -0800 Message-ID: <12098.890705866@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I was under the impression that 'exclusive' meant 'dangerously > dedicated', and I need to keep an FDISK partition table. Why? Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 18:51:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18401 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:51:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dean.pc.sas.com (sas90162.sas.com [192.58.190.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18396 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdean@dean.pc.sas.com) Received: (from brdean@localhost) by dean.pc.sas.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19126; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:50:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brdean) Message-Id: <199803240250.VAA19126@dean.pc.sas.com> From: "Brian Dean" Subject: Re: sysinstall problem - umount /dist In-Reply-To: <12098.890705866@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 23, 98 06:17:46 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:50:45 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: brdean@unx.sas.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I was under the impression that 'exclusive' meant 'dangerously > > dedicated', and I need to keep an FDISK partition table. > > Why? OK, I give ... in this case (since I'm grabbing up all of the disk), I don't have to retain a partition table. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 20:38:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07879 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:38:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07735; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:37:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA10430; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:06:27 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199803240436.PAA10430@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:18:27 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:06:26 +1030 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id UAA07741 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > eeeiiii haaaa... > hip, hip, hurrayyy!!! > Does it mean there are chances for userland video library supporting > hi-res graphics? :-)) How about making it an LKM? Then the kernel will know how to put the video card back into a sane state when your graphical app crashes.. Gee.. Lets just port the GGI API.. They are working on an X server which uses GGI.. Mmm, no more unreadable kernel messages when your X server crashes.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 20:52:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10404 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:52:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10377; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:52:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15246; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:47:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803240447.UAA15246@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: Andrzej Bialecki , =?ISO-8859-2?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:06:26 +1030." <199803240436.PAA10430@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:47:41 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > eeeiiii haaaa... > > hip, hip, hurrayyy!!! > > Does it mean there are chances for userland video library supporting > > hi-res graphics? :-)) > How about making it an LKM? > Then the kernel will know how to put the video card back into a sane state > when your graphical app crashes.. Just bolt it into syscons instead of the current mode changing. Much more orthogonal. But one thing at a time - this code needs testing and cleaning. Start there. > Gee.. Lets just port the GGI API.. They are working on an X server which uses > GGI.. Mmm, no more unreadable kernel messages when your X server crashes.. *Yawn* The GGI stuff hasn't exactly impressed anyone with the speed with which it (hasn't) improved recently. I can't see it congealing into anything really useful before GLiDE completely obsoletes it. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 21:15:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15224 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:15:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15026; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:14:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA10765; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:44:03 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199803240514.PAA10765@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mike Smith cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , Andrzej Bialecki , =?ISO-8859-2?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:47:41 -0800." <199803240447.UAA15246@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:44:03 +1030 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > How about making it an LKM? > > Then the kernel will know how to put the video card back into a sane state > > when your graphical app crashes.. > Just bolt it into syscons instead of the current mode changing. Much > more orthogonal. But one thing at a time - this code needs testing and > cleaning. Start there. Hmm.. wouldn't this end up kind of fat? If you make it a seperate LKM, then you can recompile it with different code for different cards.. Of course you could make syscons an LKM, and do the same thing, but I've never tried to get _that_ working... > > Gee.. Lets just port the GGI API.. They are working on an X server which us > > GGI.. Mmm, no more unreadable kernel messages when your X server crashes.. > *Yawn* The GGI stuff hasn't exactly impressed anyone with the speed > with which it (hasn't) improved recently. I can't see it congealing > into anything really useful before GLiDE completely obsoletes it. 8) Hmm.. well I can't say I ever looked at its speed :) But it did have several advantages in my mind in that it was in the kernel so it fixes the annoying "Oh dear my X server just died" problems (mostly), and their seemed to be a concerted effort to write drivers for it. There is also the added bonus that since its API would be shared with Linux we'd gain applications to the fold =) (There is also a svgalib emulator thingo for it). I don't get what you mean about glide.. Its not like thats any more standard.. OK so 3Dfx probably have the largest share of 3D cards in home PC's, but I can't see any other companies using it :) It's also proprietary, so you can totally rule out porting it. (Heh.. ask Amancio :) Maybe I'm just getting starey eyed again =) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 21:27:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19363 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:27:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19343; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:26:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22812; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:26:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803240526.VAA22812@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: Mike Smith , Andrzej Bialecki , =?ISO-8859-2?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:44:03 +1030." <199803240514.PAA10765@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:26:09 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It's also proprietary, so you can totally rule out porting it. (Heh.. ask > Amancio :) Argh!!! Bad day, Bad day and naturally talking to 3dfx is like talking to a blank wall . So we are going to have to move on to a different 3d chipset because of a couple of ex-SGI losers don't want us to have the sources for Glide. Yes, I am very upset with the 3dfx folks. Better stop because my vocabulary is being quickly reduced to four letter words. Amancio From: developer To: "'Amancio Hasty'" Subject: RE: Source for Glide library? Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:33:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hello Amancio You need to contact direct to 3DFX at www.3DFX.com for Glide library. Diamond Dev.Rel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 21:38:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21180 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:38:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21169; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:38:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15384; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803240532.VAA15384@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: Mike Smith , "Daniel O'Connor" , Andrzej Bialecki , =?ISO-8859-2?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:44:03 +1030." <199803240514.PAA10765@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:46 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Just bolt it into syscons instead of the current mode changing. Much > > more orthogonal. But one thing at a time - this code needs testing and > > cleaning. Start there. > Hmm.. wouldn't this end up kind of fat? If you make it a seperate LKM, then > you can recompile it with different code for different cards.. Of course you > could make syscons an LKM, and do the same thing, but I've never tried to get > _that_ working... Uh, the whole point is that you use the VESA BIOS, so there's nothing to "get fat". It's all on the card already. > > > Gee.. Lets just port the GGI API.. They are working on an X server which us > > > GGI.. Mmm, no more unreadable kernel messages when your X server crashes.. > > *Yawn* The GGI stuff hasn't exactly impressed anyone with the speed > > with which it (hasn't) improved recently. I can't see it congealing > > into anything really useful before GLiDE completely obsoletes it. 8) > Hmm.. well I can't say I ever looked at its speed :) > But it did have several advantages in my mind in that it was in the kernel so > it fixes the annoying "Oh dear my X server just died" problems (mostly), and That's what calling the VESA BIOS gets us. Without having to have a single line of hardware-specific code in the kernel, we can call the card's BIOS which knows all about the hardware. (This is all, of course, modulo BIOS bugs. Hah.) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 22:25:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27433 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:25:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.124.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27420 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@migmatite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.8/3.6Wbeta7) with ESMTP id PAA19368 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:25:00 +0900 (JST) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: VM86 does not work on pre-Pentium CPU From: KATO Takenori X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) X-PGP-Fingerprint: 03 72 85 36 62 46 23 03 52 B1 10 22 44 10 0D 9E Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980324152500H.kato@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:25:00 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 9 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Because vm86_initialize() always accesses CR4, it generates fault on pre-Pentium CPU machine. ---- KATO Takenori Dept. Earth Planet. Sci., Nagoya Univ., Nagoya, 464-01, Japan PGP public key: finger kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp ------------------- Powered by FreeBSD(98) ------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 22:42:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00939 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:42:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (root@dnttm-gw.rssi.ru [193.232.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00927 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5/IP-3) with UUCP id CAA12461; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:19:56 +0300 Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA01396; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:22:32 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199803232322.CAA01396@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Hostas Red cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having problems with msdosfs In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:28:18 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:22:32 +0300 From: Dmitrij Tejblum Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hostas Red wrote: > > > Still having problems with writing onto msdosfs partition (FAT32). It > > > reads ok, but when i'm trying to write a couple of files there, system > > > hangs, and need a reset to reboot. Thanks for your backtrace! I hope I found the bug. Try this: --- msdosfs_fat.c Tue Mar 3 01:54:31 1998 +++ msdosfs_fat.c Tue Mar 24 02:06:48 1998 @@ -355,7 +355,7 @@ * The cluster indicated in FSInfo isn't free * any longer. Got get a new free one. */ - for (cn = 0; cn < pmp->pm_maxcluster;) + for (cn = 0; cn < pmp->pm_maxcluster; cn += N_INUSEBITS) if (pmp->pm_inusemap[cn / N_INUSEBITS] != (u_int)-1) break; pmp->pm_nxtfree = cn (This is actually not tested. I hope now you will see a trouble in some other place :). If not, I have to create better testing environment :( ) > BTW, also doesn't works koi2dos trantable (locale doesn't works too), if > used from fstab - it can't find a "/usr/libdata/msdosfs/koi2dos" file (it > IS there, and if mounted from console afterboot, everything works fine > (read, at least, because write now is broken)), and can't find locale > ru_RU.KOI8-R, too. Any suggestions? If i use full path for trantable, it > doesn't helps - it can't find a file, where he is. > This is really strange. It works for me just fine (thanks ache!). May be, some part of your source out of date? Please tell what exactly you do and what exactly it says. Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 22:51:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02701 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02695 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:51:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id HAA05451 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:51:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA04630; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:40:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:40:55 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803240640.HAA04630@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Organization: Private BSD site, Dresden X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E References: <199802241022.LAA01674@sos.freebsd.dk> From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) Subject: Re: Proposed addition to panic() behaviour X-Original-Newsgroups: local.freebsd.current To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Søren Schmidt wrote: > It will only work on a std VGA card in a std mode. All moderne video cards > demands specific programming (or what do you think the thousands of lines > of code in Xfree86 does :) ) > > So your answer is it will not work most of the time, if at all. I think the recent addition of the ability to call real-mode BIOS functions should allow the console drivers to re-initialize the graphics card for text mode, shouldn't it? Søren, i'm probably even interested for a common solution for pcvt and syscons here :), albeit i haven't done anything on pcvt for years now. Sure, that's a one-way street, with no chance for the Xserver to regularly continue its work in graphics mode. But in the case of a panic, that's a moot point anyway. It should be possible to kill -9 the process holding the VTY in `process mode' from within kernel context, so that even in the DDB case (where some operator _could_ continue the kernel after fixing the panic condition manually, and walking up the stack ;-) the Xserver would not continue at all. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 22:55:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03779 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:55:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03711 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:55:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15573; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:50:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803240650.WAA15573@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Dmitrij Tejblum cc: Hostas Red , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having problems with msdosfs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:22:32 +0300." <199803232322.CAA01396@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:50:44 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hostas Red wrote: > > BTW, also doesn't works koi2dos trantable (locale doesn't works too), if > > used from fstab - it can't find a "/usr/libdata/msdosfs/koi2dos" file (it > > IS there, and if mounted from console afterboot, everything works fine > > (read, at least, because write now is broken)), and can't find locale > > ru_RU.KOI8-R, too. Any suggestions? If i use full path for trantable, it > > doesn't helps - it can't find a file, where he is. > > > > This is really strange. It works for me just fine (thanks ache!). > May be, some part of your source out of date? Please tell what exactly > you do and what exactly it says. Sounds like the mount order in /etc/fstab is wrong. Try reversing the relative orders of your msdos and /usr filesystems. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 23:25:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08326 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:25:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08309 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id IAA01228; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:00:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA02099; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:54:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980324075428.64175@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:54:28 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: The Hermit Hacker , Simon Shapiro Cc: pgsql-ports@postgresql.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 08:18:27AM -0500 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Known bug, but apparently just FreeBSD related...at least insofar > as I can't reproduce it under Solaris, just under FreeBSD... See Amancios mail. Seems to be compile time flags related ... "-shared" ... -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 23:25:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08396 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:25:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08384; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id IAA01218; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:00:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA01671; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:52:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980324075236.55117@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:52:36 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Amancio Hasty , Chuck Robey Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared lib problem ? References: <199803230956.BAA11771@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803230956.BAA11771@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 01:56:16AM -0800 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 01:56:16AM -0800, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Whats missing is a line similar to this: > > cc -L/usr/local/lib -lcrypt -lcompat -lln -lm -lreadline -ltermcap -lcurses > -L ../../interfaces/libpq -lpq -shared pgtcl.o pgtclCmds.o pgtclId.o -o > libpgtcl.so.1.0 > > And I got that line from the old postgres port. Clever ;-) > I just compiled postgres3.1 locally here and it appears to work > with pgaccess. > Thanks ! Will try that. -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 23:34:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09771 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA09688 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:33:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 11291 invoked from network); 24 Mar 1998 07:38:16 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 24 Mar 1998 07:38:16 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980324075428.64175@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:38:16 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Andreas Klemm Subject: Re: pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, possibly shared li Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgresql.org, The Hermit Hacker Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24-Mar-98 Andreas Klemm wrote: >> Known bug, but apparently just FreeBSD related...at least insofar >> as I can't reproduce it under Solaris, just under FreeBSD... > > See Amancios mail. Seems to be compile time flags related ... > "-shared" ... A bit too brief for me :-( Are you referring to the compilation mess or to the segfault when trying to open a database? ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 23:35:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09842 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:35:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lsd.relcom.eu.net (ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net [193.125.27.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09835 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:35:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net) Received: (from ache@localhost) by lsd.relcom.eu.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16884; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:34:48 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Message-ID: <19980324103448.65254@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:34:48 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Dmitrij Tejblum , Hostas Red Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having problems with msdosfs Mail-Followup-To: Dmitrij Tejblum , Hostas Red , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199803232322.CAA01396@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803232322.CAA01396@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru>; from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 02:22:32AM +0300 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 02:22:32AM +0300, Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > - for (cn = 0; cn < pmp->pm_maxcluster;) > + for (cn = 0; cn < pmp->pm_maxcluster; cn += N_INUSEBITS) > if (pmp->pm_inusemap[cn / N_INUSEBITS] != (u_int)-1) > break; > pmp->pm_nxtfree = cn > > (This is actually not tested. I hope now you will see a trouble in some other > place :). If not, I have to create better testing environment :( ) Hmm. I see another variant of incrementing cn in all other places: cn += N_INUSEBITS - cn % N_INUSEBITS; (not tested too) :-) But the fact that some incrementing needed remains true. > > BTW, also doesn't works koi2dos trantable (locale doesn't works too), if > > used from fstab - it can't find a "/usr/libdata/msdosfs/koi2dos" file (it > > IS there, and if mounted from console afterboot, everything works fine > > (read, at least, because write now is broken)), and can't find locale > > ru_RU.KOI8-R, too. Any suggestions? If i use full path for trantable, it > > doesn't helps - it can't find a file, where he is. > > > > This is really strange. It works for me just fine (thanks ache!). > May be, some part of your source out of date? Please tell what exactly you do and > what exactly it says. Try to mount /usr before /msdos -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 23 23:39:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10865 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:39:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10851; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:39:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02215; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:38:46 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199803240738.IAA02215@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: BIOS calls In-Reply-To: <199803240532.VAA15384@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Mar 23, 98 09:32:46 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:38:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au, mike@smith.net.au, doconnor@gsoft.com.au, abial@nask.pl, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Mike Smith who wrote: > > > Just bolt it into syscons instead of the current mode changing. Much > > > more orthogonal. But one thing at a time - this code needs testing and > > > cleaning. Start there. > > Hmm.. wouldn't this end up kind of fat? If you make it a seperate LKM, then > > you can recompile it with different code for different cards.. Of course you > > could make syscons an LKM, and do the same thing, but I've never tried to get > > _that_ working... > > Uh, the whole point is that you use the VESA BIOS, so there's nothing > to "get fat". It's all on the card already. Exactly, I'm working on putting support for it into syscons, so just stay calm, we will have that functionality... > > > > > Gee.. Lets just port the GGI API.. They are working on an X server which us > > > > GGI.. Mmm, no more unreadable kernel messages when your X server crashes.. > > > *Yawn* The GGI stuff hasn't exactly impressed anyone with the speed > > > with which it (hasn't) improved recently. I can't see it congealing > > > into anything really useful before GLiDE completely obsoletes it. 8) > > Hmm.. well I can't say I ever looked at its speed :) > > But it did have several advantages in my mind in that it was in the kernel so > > it fixes the annoying "Oh dear my X server just died" problems (mostly), and > > That's what calling the VESA BIOS gets us. Without having to have a > single line of hardware-specific code in the kernel, we can call the > card's BIOS which knows all about the hardware. I have had contacts from the GGI group lately, but to be honest I dont se how they can succed, progress on the hardware level is much too fast to have a small group of coders catch up with drivers, heck ask the Xfree folks on that one if in doubt. When we have prober & stable support of this, I'm sure we will have a X server that can use it, its just a matter of pulling most of the servers guts out (ie all the cardspecific code)... Accelerated cards are a matter of concern here ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 00:04:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14461 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:04:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hard.korea.ac.kr (hard.korea.ac.kr [163.152.218.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14427 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:04:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jjw@hard.korea.ac.kr) Received: from kuccgx.korea.ac.kr ([163.152.217.80]) by hard.korea.ac.kr (8.7.1H1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA13925 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:00:39 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <35176927.40E6@hard.korea.ac.kr> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:04:55 +0900 From: jinwoo Organization: =?EUC-KR?B?sO23wbTrx9Cxsw==?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-current name jinwoo jjw@hard.korea.ac.kr -- ******************************************************** * # Jin-Woo Jung # * * Electronics and Information Engineering * * Graduate School, Korea University * * (Phone) : 0415-60-1424 * * (EMAIL) : jjw@hard.korea.ac.kr * ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 02:54:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09316 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:54:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (root@dnttm-gw.rssi.ru [193.232.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09260 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:53:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5/IP-3) with UUCP id NAA23230; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:39:16 +0300 Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04182; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:46:28 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199803241046.NAA04182@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: áÎÄÒÅÊ þÅÒÎÏ× cc: Hostas Red , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having problems with msdosfs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:34:48 +0300." <19980324103448.65254@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:46:28 +0300 From: Dmitrij Tejblum Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG áÎÄÒÅÊ þÅÒÎÏ× wrote: > > - for (cn = 0; cn < pmp->pm_maxcluster;) > > + for (cn = 0; cn < pmp->pm_maxcluster; cn += N_INUSEBITS) > > Hmm. I see another variant of incrementing cn in all other places: > > cn += N_INUSEBITS - cn % N_INUSEBITS; But cn % N_INUSEBITS == 0 in this cycl anyway... Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 05:24:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27009 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:24:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from serv.unibest.ru (serv.unibest.ru [194.87.33.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA26987 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:23:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from osa@unibest.ru) Received: (qmail 3958 invoked from network); 24 Mar 1998 13:23:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hole.etrust.ru) (200.1.6.2) by serv.unibest.ru with SMTP; 24 Mar 1998 13:23:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:25:59 +0300 (MSK) From: Ozz!!! X-Sender: osa@hole.etrust.ru To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Today's -CURRENT... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all! What about of today's -CURRENT ??? Does it work ??? Rgdz, oZZ, osa@unibest.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 08:27:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16600 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:27:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.124.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16581 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:27:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kato@migmatite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.8/3.6Wbeta7) with ESMTP id BAA21450 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:27:09 +0900 (JST) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VM86 does not work on pre-Pentium CPU From: KATO Takenori In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:25:00 +0900" <19980324152500H.kato@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> References: <19980324152500H.kato@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) X-PGP-Fingerprint: 03 72 85 36 62 46 23 03 52 B1 10 22 44 10 0D 9E Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980325012708O.kato@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:27:08 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG KATO Takenori wrote: > Because vm86_initialize() always accesses CR4, it generates fault on > pre-Pentium CPU machine. Before accessing CR4, bit 1 of cpu_feature should be tested as following patch: ---------- BEGIN ---------- *** vm86.c.ORIG Wed Mar 25 01:22:57 1998 --- vm86.c Wed Mar 25 01:23:05 1998 *************** *** 418,424 **** ext->ext_iomap = (caddr_t)(offset + ((u_int)&ext->ext_tss & PG_FRAME)); ext->ext_vm86.vm86_intmap = ext->ext_iomap - 32; ! ext->ext_vm86.vm86_has_vme = (rcr4() & CR4_VME ? 1 : 0); addr = (u_long *)ext->ext_vm86.vm86_intmap; for (i = 0; i < (ctob(IOPAGES) + 32 + 16) / sizeof(u_long); i++) --- 418,427 ---- ext->ext_iomap = (caddr_t)(offset + ((u_int)&ext->ext_tss & PG_FRAME)); ext->ext_vm86.vm86_intmap = ext->ext_iomap - 32; ! if (cpu_feature & CPUID_VME) ! ext->ext_vm86.vm86_has_vme = (rcr4() & CR4_VME ? 1 : 0); ! else ! ext->ext_vm86.vm86_has_vme = 0; addr = (u_long *)ext->ext_vm86.vm86_intmap; for (i = 0; i < (ctob(IOPAGES) + 32 + 16) / sizeof(u_long); i++) ---------- END ---------- If a CPU has the virtual mode extensions, the CPU has the CR4 register. ---- KATO Takenori Dept. Earth Planet. Sci., Nagoya Univ., Nagoya, 464-01, Japan PGP public key: finger kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp ------------------- Powered by FreeBSD(98) ------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 09:09:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21888 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:09:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21836 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:09:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14334 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:08:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:08:34 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ctm/cvs question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know of a better place to post this ... sorry if I'm wrong. I use ctm to get the cvs tree, and I accidentally scragged the ctm-maintained file .ctm-status. I tried to use ctm to apply the next diff (instead of ctm_rmail), hoping that ctm would find the file gone, and restore it, but ctm exited with an error code of 72 (missing system file). Ctm ran a while then, but printed no information as to files changing, so I don't think it actually touched my tree. Assuming that's true, does anyone know the _exact_ form of the .ctm-status file if the next diff to be applied was cvs-cur.4162.gz ? BTW, I did look at the man page, but it doesn't note the exact form of the file. I tried just putting 4162 in, didn't work. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 09:16:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22946 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22890 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:15:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25802; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:15:25 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA00817; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:15:21 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980324181521.39508@follo.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:15:21 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Chuck Robey , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ctm/cvs question References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 12:08:34PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 12:08:34PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > I don't know of a better place to post this ... sorry if I'm wrong. > > I use ctm to get the cvs tree, and I accidentally scragged the > ctm-maintained file .ctm-status. I tried to use ctm to apply the next > diff (instead of ctm_rmail), hoping that ctm would find the file gone, > and restore it, but ctm exited with an error code of 72 (missing system > file). Ctm ran a while then, but printed no information as to files > changing, so I don't think it actually touched my tree. Assuming that's > true, does anyone know the _exact_ form of the .ctm-status file if the > next diff to be applied was cvs-cur.4162.gz ? > > BTW, I did look at the man page, but it doesn't note the exact form of > the file. I tried just putting 4162 in, didn't work. As in my OpenBSD-cvs file: ---- Tear here ---- OpenBSD-cvs 544 ---- Tear here ---- You should be able to get up to date by cvsup'ing from ctm.freebsd.org - I'm not certain if that include the .ctm_status file, though. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 09:21:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24702 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:21:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24656 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:21:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25932; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:20:57 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA00852; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:20:56 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980324182056.52835@follo.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:20:56 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Ozz!!! , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Today's -CURRENT... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Ozz!!! on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 04:25:59PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 04:25:59PM +0300, Ozz!!! wrote: > Hi all! > What about of today's -CURRENT ??? > Does it work ??? Seems so. However, you always run -current at your own risk. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 09:44:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27640 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27609 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:44:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from dale.salk.edu (dale [198.202.70.112]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23445 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:44:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:44:04 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Bartol To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gcc bug in -current!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I just found and narrowed down the following bug in gcc in -current after a cvsup and make world as of Mon Mar 23 12:14:55 PST. This bug appears to have crept in sometime between then and Feb 14. Included below is a small program which demonstrates the bug along with output from the program compiled on yesterday's -current and Feb. 14 -current. It appears to be a bug with the handling of the sign bit in static unsigned int quantities. Note the incorrect sign of the double-precision values in the printout and how the sign changes anomalously when cc and then cc -O is used for the compilation on yesterday's -current. I thought I should report this right away since compiler bugs can have nasty effects especially when you use it to rebuild your whole system :-( Thanks, Tom Here is the program: #include main() { double d1,d2,d3,d4; static unsigned int c1 = 0x80000000; unsigned int c2 = 0x80000000; static unsigned int c3 = 0x40000000; unsigned int c4 = 0x40000000; d1=c1; d2=c2; d3=c3; d4=c4; printf("c1 = %x c2 = %x\n",c1,c2); printf("d1 = %12.9e d2 = %12.9e\n",d1,d2); printf("\nc3 = %x c4 = %x\n",c3,c4); printf("d3 = %12.9e d4 = %12.9e\n",d3,d4); exit(0); } Here is the output after compiling on yesterday's -current using cc with no compiler flags: c1 = 80000000 c2 = 80000000 d1 = -2.147483648e+09 d2 = -2.147483648e+09 c3 = 40000000 c4 = 40000000 d3 = 1.073741824e+09 d4 = 1.073741824e+09 Here is the output after compiling on a Feb 14 -current using cc with no compiler flags: c1 = 80000000 c2 = 80000000 d1 = 2.147483648e+09 d2 = 2.147483648e+09 c3 = 40000000 c4 = 40000000 d3 = 1.073741824e+09 d4 = 1.073741824e+09 Here is the output after compiling on a yesterday's -current using cc -O: c1 = 80000000 c2 = 80000000 d1 = -2.147483648e+09 d2 = 2.147483648e+09 c3 = 40000000 c4 = 40000000 d3 = 1.073741824e+09 d4 = 1.073741824e+09 Here is the output after compiling on a Feb 14 -current using cc -O: c1 = 80000000 c2 = 80000000 d1 = 2.147483648e+09 d2 = 2.147483648e+09 c3 = 40000000 c4 = 40000000 d3 = 1.073741824e+09 d4 = 1.073741824e+09 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 09:50:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29329 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:50:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29319 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:50:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14440; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:49:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:49:28 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Eivind Eklund cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ctm/cvs question In-Reply-To: <19980324181521.39508@follo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 12:08:34PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > > I don't know of a better place to post this ... sorry if I'm wrong. > > > > I use ctm to get the cvs tree, and I accidentally scragged the > > ctm-maintained file .ctm-status. I tried to use ctm to apply the next > > diff (instead of ctm_rmail), hoping that ctm would find the file gone, > > and restore it, but ctm exited with an error code of 72 (missing system > > file). Ctm ran a while then, but printed no information as to files > > changing, so I don't think it actually touched my tree. Assuming that's > > true, does anyone know the _exact_ form of the .ctm-status file if the > > next diff to be applied was cvs-cur.4162.gz ? > > > > BTW, I did look at the man page, but it doesn't note the exact form of > > the file. I tried just putting 4162 in, didn't work. > > > > As in my OpenBSD-cvs file: > > ---- Tear here ---- > OpenBSD-cvs 544 > ---- Tear here ---- > > You should be able to get up to date by cvsup'ing from ctm.freebsd.org - I'm > not certain if that include the .ctm_status file, though. Thanks, that worked fine: cvs-cur 4161 > > Eivind. > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 10:26:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06778 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:26:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06748; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:26:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (B0bQsiDVmglirULuC2fyrfg2AshgwFst@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23225; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:26:29 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (2ijvf0f1esUy9nelIkYYJQJaIZUm3m6V@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01956; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:26:28 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803241826.UAA01956@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Secure RPC Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:26:28 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Bill (Long time, no chat!) After a very long vacation from hacking Secure RPC, I am getting back to it, and I am hitting some snags. This one has got me perplexed; On the NIS server, I have set up the /etc/publickey file (I used newkey -h server.grondar.za and newkey -h client.grondar.za). I cd'd to /var/yp and did a make, and ypcat of publickey.byname is cool. I then did a keyserv -n on the server, and I was asked for root's password; no problem. On the client, keyserv -n always fails with: keyserv: can't find unix.client.grondar.za@grondar's secret key Any ideas? ypcat of publickey.byname on client looks OK. Also - it would be nice :-) if you could put some basic SecureRPC configuration stuff into rc.conf to help the inexperienced. I'd be happy to do it once I've figured out how it all works again, but methinks you could do it in your sleep... Keep well! M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 15:16:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16537 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay1.kar.net (relay1.kar.net [195.5.17.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16507 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kushn@mail.kar.net) Received: from olinet.isf.kiev.ua by relay1.kar.net with ESMTP id BAA01505; (8.8.last/vAk3/1.9) Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:14:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from kushnir.kiev.ua by olinet.isf.kiev.ua with SMTP id BAA02653; (8.8.last/vAk3/1.9) Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:13:13 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:18:03 +0200 (EET) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-Sender: volodya@kushnir.kiev.ua To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: What's happend to ctm? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Sorry but I hope this the right list (please don't hit me over a head if it isn't). Did something happened to CTM and I was too careless and just missed some information? The last delta was src-cur.3300. Is there going to be the following or I have to switch to cvs-cur? I used CTM all the time to update the source tree; will I have to fetch some zero level cvs-cur now (*shudder* - it's huge!) and then maintain all the CVS tree? Thanks in advance, Vladimir To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 15:45:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21378 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:45:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21366 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16309; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:44:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:44:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Vladimir Kushnir cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What's happend to ctm? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Vladimir Kushnir wrote: > Hello, > Sorry but I hope this the right list (please don't hit me over a head if > it isn't). > Did something happened to CTM and I was too careless and just missed > some information? The last delta was src-cur.3300. Is there going to be > the following or I have to switch to cvs-cur? I used CTM all the time to > update the source tree; will I have to fetch some zero level cvs-cur now > (*shudder* - it's huge!) and then maintain all the CVS tree? I don't use src-cur, but I just looked on wcarchive, and the last src-cur is indeed 3300. cvs-cur has been working fine. > > Thanks in advance, > Vladimir > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 16:13:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26174 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:13:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26167 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:13:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02102 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:13:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002054; Tue, 24 Mar 98 18:13:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA08657 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:12:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:12:59 -0600 (CST) From: Kyle Mestery To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Userland ppp problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am running a kernel from March 13, but this problem has manifested itself in previous kernels from Feb and possibly January. The problem is that when ftping files while using iijppp the ftping will sometimes stall and never finish. I say sometimes, because it only happens with what appear to be random files. For instance, the latest lesttif and gcc .tgz files both stall at the exact same point in the file. It's as if at that point in downloading the file, something is causing ijppp to hang that connection. The connection itself remains up, and I can control-c the ftp connection and stop it. I can also continue to use the link for other ftp sessions and telnet, etc. Has anyone else noticed anything similiar to this? I am using a kernel from MArch 13 with a world from March 16, but like I said it has happened for the last few months. Other information can be provided upon request. Also, the above mentioned files (lesstiff for example) do download okay if I unzip them, then compress (instead of gzip) them, and uuencode them. Of course, this makes them twice as big, but it seems as if they no longer contain the sequence of bits that cause iijppp to stall on them. I know this sounds weird, but it has been happening for a while, and is trully repeatable. I can get a tcpdump output if needed. Thanks! -- Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Network Systems Group "Keep honking, I'm reloading." "Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 17:29:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04626 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04620 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:29:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA22122; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:29:10 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199803250129.BAA22122@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Kyle Mestery cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Userland ppp problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:12:59 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:29:10 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Assuming `tcp_extensions=NO' doesn't help in rc.conf, you'll have to try to narrow down the pattern of characters that are causing the problem. Is TCP retrying to send the data over and over ? > Hi, I am running a kernel from March 13, but this problem has manifested > itself in previous kernels from Feb and possibly January. The problem is > that when ftping files while using iijppp the ftping will sometimes stall > and never finish. I say sometimes, because it only happens with what > appear to be random files. For instance, the latest lesttif and gcc .tgz > files both stall at the exact same point in the file. It's as if at that > point in downloading the file, something is causing ijppp to hang that > connection. The connection itself remains up, and I can control-c the ftp > connection and stop it. I can also continue to use the link for other ftp > sessions and telnet, etc. Has anyone else noticed anything similiar to > this? > > I am using a kernel from MArch 13 with a world from March 16, but like I > said it has happened for the last few months. Other information can be > provided upon request. > > Also, the above mentioned files (lesstiff for example) do download okay if > I unzip them, then compress (instead of gzip) them, and uuencode them. Of > course, this makes them twice as big, but it seems as if they no longer > contain the sequence of bits that cause iijppp to stall on them. I know > this sounds weird, but it has been happening for a while, and is trully > repeatable. I can get a tcpdump output if needed. Thanks! > > -- > Kyle Mestery > StorageTek's Network Systems Group > "Keep honking, I'm reloading." > "Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 17:44:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06497 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06459 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:44:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 24654 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 01:48:06 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 01:48:06 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032398 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803250136.UAA23188@candle.pha.pa.us> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:48:05 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Bruce Momjian Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update Cc: scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Mar-98 Bruce Momjian wrote: ... > One other solution is to make a symbolic link from libtcl8.1.so to > libtcl.so, and when you upgrade tcl, you update the symbolic link so > libtcl.so always points to the most recent version. Do the same with > libtk, tcl.h and tk.h. That is what BSDI does. This is what FreeBSD USED TO do. This was removed, to the point that either ports or world cannot be built if it is there. ... > Just to let you know, pgaccess works fine under BSDI. I use versions > tcl7.5 and tk4.1. After an all-night dash, it also works on FreeBSD, except (and I will nag until someone answers :-) that pgaccess, in the query window, only appears to process SELECTs correctly. All others fail with ``syntax error''. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 17:57:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10074 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:57:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (root@s5-03.ppp.op.net [209.152.195.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10069; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:56:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maillist@candle.pha.pa.us) Received: (from maillist@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23188; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:36:07 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <199803250136.UAA23188@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:36:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@hub.org In-Reply-To: from "Simon Shapiro" at Mar 23, 98 05:11:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > With lots of help from many good people, here is how far I got: > > a. The port still talks about 6.2.1, so forget that. > > b. When configuring, make sure you specify ``/usr/locl/include/tcl{whatever > _version} /usr/local/include/tk{whatever_version}'' > > c. In configure (you can/should do it to configure.in and regenerate it > via autoconf - I'll let YOU figh this one :-) you should specify the > explicit libraries, as in TCL_LIB = tcl8.1 and TK_LIB = tk8.1, instead > of the generic TCL_LIB = tcl One other solution is to make a symbolic link from libtcl8.1.so to libtcl.so, and when you upgrade tcl, you update the symbolic link so libtcl.so always points to the most recent version. Do the same with libtk, tcl.h and tk.h. That is what BSDI does. > > These above steps are curtesy of the changes to the .mk files that deprive > FreeBSD from a normal, default tcl/tk installation in an attempt to > acomodate all the versions necessary in many different places. > > More steps: > > d. Edit src/bin/pgaccess/pgaccess.tcl to remove the line ``load libpgtcl'' > > e. Install the above directory someplace sensible (other then the source > tree. I put it in ~pgsql/bin/pgaccess.dir > > f. Write yourself a bit script that does ``pgtksh -f > /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pgaccess.ir/pgaccess.tcl'' > > The script will promptly start very nicely. > > More Fun: > > g. Pull down the Database menu, select Open > > h. Enter your favorite database name and connection data > > i. Since tcl is interpreted/embedded it is immune to C programming errors. > Thus it will promptly generate a segmentation fault and die. Just to let you know, pgaccess works fine under BSDI. I use versions tcl7.5 and tk4.1. -- Bruce Momjian | 830 Blythe Avenue maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 + If your life is a hard drive, | (610) 353-9879(w) + Christ can be your backup. | (610) 853-3000(h) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 17:59:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10880 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:59:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10857; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:59:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from bubble.didi.com (tfx-us6-21.ix.netcom.com [204.30.67.213]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08659; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by bubble.didi.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) id UAA02139; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:59:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from asami) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:59:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803250159.UAA02139@bubble.didi.com> To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org CC: maillist@candle.pha.pa.us, scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com In-reply-to: (message from Simon Shapiro on Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:48:05 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * > One other solution is to make a symbolic link from libtcl8.1.so to * This is what FreeBSD USED TO do. This was removed, to the point that Can you guys stop talking about tcl now? We've gone through this before many, many times, and the only reason why we are doing things the way it is now is because we found out (the hard way, i.e., we tried pretty much everything) that no other method works for something as large and diverse as the ports collection. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 18:10:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12480 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA12417 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 14255 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 02:14:03 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 02:14:03 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032398 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803250159.UAA02139@bubble.didi.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:14:02 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@hub.org, maillist@candle.pha.pa.us Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Mar-98 Satoshi Asami wrote: > * > One other solution is to make a symbolic link from libtcl8.1.so to > > * This is what FreeBSD USED TO do. This was removed, to the point that > > Can you guys stop talking about tcl now? Why? > We've gone through this before many, many times, and the only reason > why we are doing things the way it is now is because we found out (the > hard way, i.e., we tried pretty much everything) that no other method > works for something as large and diverse as the ports collection. Nobody claimed nor hinted that the tcl move on your part was anything but correct. Nevertheless, it broke things that used to work, and that work on a number of other Unix platforms. Some of the people who helped identify and solve this problem are less familiar with FreeBSD and its history on this matter. Others (like myself) break in sweat and get itchy all over every time something in tcl/tk stops working. I belive the issue is clear, and the course of action identified. Rather than shutting us up, maybe you suggest how we avoid the breakage on the next package? I certainly do not know how (in the context of not having {tcl,tk}.h and lib{tcl,tk} where it is normally found). ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 18:47:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16756 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:47:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16737; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:47:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from bubble.didi.com (tfx-us5-13.ix.netcom.com [204.30.67.173]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08720; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by bubble.didi.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) id VAA02286; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:17:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from asami) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:17:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803250217.VAA02286@bubble.didi.com> To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org CC: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@hub.org, maillist@candle.pha.pa.us In-reply-to: (message from Simon Shapiro on Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:14:02 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Why? Because it's a waste of time. If you want to know what happened before, anyone can go check the mail archives. * I belive the issue is clear, and the course of action identified. Rather * than shutting us up, maybe you suggest how we avoid the breakage on the * next package? I certainly do not know how (in the context of not having As already suggested, specify the full pathname. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 18:53:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18031 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from limbo.rtfm.net (nathan@rtfm.net [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18017 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:53:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nathan@limbo.rtfm.net) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.rtfm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05312; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:53:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980324215312.02420@rtfm.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:53:12 -0500 From: Nathan Dorfman To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mutt port and last line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When using the mutt.with-pgp port (0.89i I believe), a really annoying cosmetic problem comes up. When exiting, the last status message (i.e. folder unchanged or 43 items deleted or whatever) is displayed in the same physical line as my prompt. So what I get is something like: nathan:~% unchanged. nathan:~% deleted. below the mutt screen. On a previous install, there would be scrolling, this doesn't happen here. I used to blame xterm; tried console and see the same thing. Is this fixable locally or should I complain to the developers? -- ________________ _______________________________ / Nathan Dorfman V PGP: finger nathan@rtfm.net / / nathan@rtfm.net | http://www.rtfm.net / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 19:01:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19155 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:01:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lsd.relcom.eu.net (ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net [193.125.27.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19122 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:01:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net) Received: (from ache@localhost) by lsd.relcom.eu.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25243; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:01:26 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Message-ID: <19980325060126.43680@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:01:26 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Nathan Dorfman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mutt port and last line Mail-Followup-To: Nathan Dorfman , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980324215312.02420@rtfm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19980324215312.02420@rtfm.net>; from nathan@rtfm.net on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:53:12PM -0500 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:53:12PM -0500, Nathan Dorfman wrote: > When using the mutt.with-pgp port (0.89i I believe), a really annoying > cosmetic problem comes up. When exiting, the last status message (i.e. > folder unchanged or 43 items deleted or whatever) is displayed in the > same physical line as my prompt. So what I get is something like: > > nathan:~% unchanged. > nathan:~% deleted. > > below the mutt screen. On a previous install, there would be scrolling, > this doesn't happen here. I used to blame xterm; tried console and see > the same thing. Is this fixable locally or should I complain to the > developers? It can be curses-related problem because some curses versions clear last line before exit but some not. From other side it can be mutt problem since information printed seems not supposed to be cleared, so \n instead of clreol will be even better. In any case complain original developers. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 19:17:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21128 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:17:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21073; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@mail.westbend.net) From: hetzels@mail.westbend.net Received: (from hetzels@localhost) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18367; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:16:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:16:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803250316.VAA18367@mail.westbend.net> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Links not re-created in MAKEDEV Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have seen a problem with MAKEDEV for a while on both current and stable systems, in that it will not re-create links for these devices: fd0a-h, rfd0a-h, fd1a-h, rfd1a-h, ft0a, rft0a, rst0, nrst0, erst0 The error I see is: ln: {device}: file exists The following patch corrects the problem for both current and stable MAKDEV files: *** MAKEDEV.orig Thu Mar 5 08:49:36 1998 --- MAKEDEV Tue Mar 24 20:42:37 1998 *************** *** 342,409 **** # Fake BSD partitions for i in a b c d e f g h do ! ln ${name}${unit} ${name}${unit}$i ! ln r${name}${unit} r${name}${unit}$i done # User-readable and programmer-readable name sets mknod ${name}${unit}.1720 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 1` mknod r${name}${unit}.1720 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 1` ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1720 ${name}${unit}135hs21 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1720 r${name}${unit}135hs21 mknod ${name}${unit}.1480 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 2` mknod r${name}${unit}.1480 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 2` ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1480 ${name}${unit}135hs18 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1480 r${name}${unit}135hs18 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1480 ${name}${unit}96hs18 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1480 r${name}${unit}96hs18 mknod ${name}${unit}.1440 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 3` mknod r${name}${unit}.1440 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 3` ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1440 ${name}${unit}135 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1440 r${name}${unit}135 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1440 ${name}${unit}135ds18 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1440 r${name}${unit}135ds18 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1440 ${name}${unit}96ds18 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1440 r${name}${unit}96ds18 mknod ${name}${unit}.1200 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 4` mknod r${name}${unit}.1200 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 4` ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}96 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}96 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}96ds15 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}96ds15 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}135ds15 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}135ds15 mknod ${name}${unit}.820 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 5` mknod r${name}${unit}.820 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 5` ! # ln ${name}${unit}.820 ${name}${unit}96hs10 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.820 r${name}${unit}96hs10 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.820 ${name}${unit}135hs10 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.820 r${name}${unit}135hs10 mknod ${name}${unit}.800 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 6` mknod r${name}${unit}.800 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 6` ! # ln ${name}${unit}.800 ${name}${unit}96ds10 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.800 r${name}${unit}96ds10 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.800 ${name}${unit}135ds10 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.800 r${name}${unit}135ds10 mknod ${name}${unit}.720 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 7` mknod r${name}${unit}.720 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 7` ! # ln ${name}${unit}.720 ${name}${unit}96ds9 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.720 r${name}${unit}96ds9 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.720 ${name}${unit}135ds9 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.720 r${name}${unit}135ds9 mknod ${name}${unit}.360 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 8` mknod r${name}${unit}.360 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 8` ! # ln ${name}${unit}.360 ${name}${unit}48 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.360 r${name}${unit}48 ! # ln ${name}${unit}.360 ${name}${unit}48ds9 ! # ln r${name}${unit}.360 r${name}${unit}48ds9 chgrp operator ${name}${unit}* r${name}${unit}* ;; --- 342,409 ---- # Fake BSD partitions for i in a b c d e f g h do ! ln -f ${name}${unit} ${name}${unit}$i ! ln -f r${name}${unit} r${name}${unit}$i done # User-readable and programmer-readable name sets mknod ${name}${unit}.1720 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 1` mknod r${name}${unit}.1720 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 1` ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1720 ${name}${unit}135hs21 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1720 r${name}${unit}135hs21 mknod ${name}${unit}.1480 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 2` mknod r${name}${unit}.1480 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 2` ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1480 ${name}${unit}135hs18 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1480 r${name}${unit}135hs18 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1480 ${name}${unit}96hs18 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1480 r${name}${unit}96hs18 mknod ${name}${unit}.1440 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 3` mknod r${name}${unit}.1440 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 3` ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1440 ${name}${unit}135 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1440 r${name}${unit}135 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1440 ${name}${unit}135ds18 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1440 r${name}${unit}135ds18 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1440 ${name}${unit}96ds18 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1440 r${name}${unit}96ds18 mknod ${name}${unit}.1200 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 4` mknod r${name}${unit}.1200 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 4` ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}96 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}96 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}96ds15 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}96ds15 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}135ds15 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}135ds15 mknod ${name}${unit}.820 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 5` mknod r${name}${unit}.820 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 5` ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.820 ${name}${unit}96hs10 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.820 r${name}${unit}96hs10 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.820 ${name}${unit}135hs10 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.820 r${name}${unit}135hs10 mknod ${name}${unit}.800 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 6` mknod r${name}${unit}.800 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 6` ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.800 ${name}${unit}96ds10 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.800 r${name}${unit}96ds10 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.800 ${name}${unit}135ds10 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.800 r${name}${unit}135ds10 mknod ${name}${unit}.720 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 7` mknod r${name}${unit}.720 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 7` ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.720 ${name}${unit}96ds9 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.720 r${name}${unit}96ds9 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.720 ${name}${unit}135ds9 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.720 r${name}${unit}135ds9 mknod ${name}${unit}.360 b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 8` mknod r${name}${unit}.360 c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 8` ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.360 ${name}${unit}48 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.360 r${name}${unit}48 ! # ln -f ${name}${unit}.360 ${name}${unit}48ds9 ! # ln -f r${name}${unit}.360 r${name}${unit}48ds9 chgrp operator ${name}${unit}* r${name}${unit}* ;; *************** *** 422,429 **** 0|1|2|3) mknod ${name}${unit} b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 32` mknod r${name}${unit} c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 32` ! ln ${name}${unit} ${name}${unit}a ! ln r${name}${unit} r${name}${unit}a chgrp operator ${name}${unit}* r${name}${unit}* ;; *) --- 422,429 ---- 0|1|2|3) mknod ${name}${unit} b $blk `expr $unit '*' 64 + 32` mknod r${name}${unit} c $chr `expr $unit '*' 64 + 32` ! ln -f ${name}${unit} ${name}${unit}a ! ln -f r${name}${unit} r${name}${unit}a chgrp operator ${name}${unit}* r${name}${unit}* ;; *) *************** *** 586,594 **** mknod rst${unit}.ctl c $chr `expr $unit '*' 16 + $scsictl ` chmod 600 rst${unit}.ctl ! ln rst${unit}.0 rst${unit} ! ln nrst${unit}.0 nrst${unit} ! ln erst${unit}.0 erst${unit} ;; *) echo bad unit for tape in: $i --- 586,594 ---- mknod rst${unit}.ctl c $chr `expr $unit '*' 16 + $scsictl ` chmod 600 rst${unit}.ctl ! ln -f rst${unit}.0 rst${unit} ! ln -f nrst${unit}.0 nrst${unit} ! ln -f erst${unit}.0 erst${unit} ;; *) echo bad unit for tape in: $i To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 19:48:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25225 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:48:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25212 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:48:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA29530 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:48:52 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199803250348.VAA29530@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Panic while in tulip code To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:48:51 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I received the following tonight: panic: page fault while in kernel mode A trace shows: tulip_txput tulip_ifstart_one ether_output ip_output tcp_output tcp_input ip_input ipintr swi_net_next I've got a dump handy, if anyone wants me to try anything.... This kernel is from the 14th..... Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 19:57:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26456 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:57:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (root@s5-03.ppp.op.net [209.152.195.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26442; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:57:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maillist@candle.pha.pa.us) Received: (from maillist@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA25338; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:42:56 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <199803250342.WAA25338@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:40:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, teo@flex.ro In-Reply-To: from "Simon Shapiro" at Mar 24, 98 05:48:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Just to let you know, pgaccess works fine under BSDI. I use versions > > tcl7.5 and tk4.1. > > After an all-night dash, it also works on FreeBSD, except (and I will nag > until someone answers :-) that pgaccess, in the query window, only appears > to process SELECTs correctly. All others fail with ``syntax error''. [Man, that CC line is long. I have added the pgaccess maintainer to it.] BSDI has the same problem with non-select queries. -- Bruce Momjian | 830 Blythe Avenue maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 + If your life is a hard drive, | (610) 353-9879(w) + Christ can be your backup. | (610) 853-3000(h) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 19:59:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26857 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:59:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26838; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:59:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27161; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:58:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803250358.TAA27161@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bruce Momjian cc: shimon@simon-shapiro.org, scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, teo@flex.ro Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:40:25 EST." <199803250342.WAA25338@candle.pha.pa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:58:02 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Guys, You have to be a little bit more specific as to what is failing. Had not problems creating a table and adding fields with the pgaccess script found in postgress 6.3.1. Regards, Amancio > > > Just to let you know, pgaccess works fine under BSDI. I use versions > > > tcl7.5 and tk4.1. > > > > After an all-night dash, it also works on FreeBSD, except (and I will nag > > until someone answers :-) that pgaccess, in the query window, only appears > > to process SELECTs correctly. All others fail with ``syntax error''. > > [Man, that CC line is long. I have added the pgaccess maintainer to > it.] > > BSDI has the same problem with non-select queries. > > > > -- > Bruce Momjian | 830 Blythe Avenue > maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 > + If your life is a hard drive, | (610) 353-9879(w) > + Christ can be your backup. | (610) 853-3000(h) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 20:22:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01035 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:22:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01030 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:22:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08221; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:22:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008173; Tue, 24 Mar 98 22:22:24 -0600 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA13218; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:22:23 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:22:22 -0600 (CST) From: Kyle Mestery To: Brian Somers cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Userland ppp problem In-Reply-To: <199803250129.BAA22122@awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Brian Somers wrote: > Assuming `tcp_extensions=NO' doesn't help in rc.conf, you'll have to > try to narrow down the pattern of characters that are causing the > problem. > Okay, I tried disabling those extensions first (BTW, what are they and what does disabling do exactly?). That did not work, as the file still hung in the same place upon trying to ftp it. > Is TCP retrying to send the data over and over ? > Not sure, but here is some tcpdump output that might be helpful. I do not entirally know what it means, but it looks like the remote site is trying to send the packet still, and my end is not doing anything, and then all of a sudden my end starts to try and receieve it again to no avail: ... 22:11:38.948195 hope.winternet.com.blackjack > 199.181.107.40.ftp: . ack 0 win 17520 (DF) 22:11:38.996462 hope.winternet.com.40007 > 199.181.107.40.ftp-data: . ack 230681 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:39.397021 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: . 230681:232141(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:39.596427 hope.winternet.com.40007 > 199.181.107.40.ftp-data: . ack 232141 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:39.827005 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: P 232141:233601(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:39.996489 hope.winternet.com.40007 > 199.181.107.40.ftp-data: . ack 233601 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:40.697022 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: P 233601:235061(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:41.147094 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: . 235061:236521(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:41.597257 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: P 236521:237981(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:42.027016 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: . 237981:239441(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:42.467012 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: P 239441:240901(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:42.917076 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: . 240901:242361(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:43.337045 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: P 242361:243821(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:43.366811 199.181.107.40.ftp > hope.winternet.com.blackjack: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x10] 22:11:43.366925 hope.winternet.com.blackjack > 199.181.107.40.ftp: . ack 0 win 17520 (DF) 22:11:43.797084 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: . 243821:245281(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:44.237098 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: P 245281:246741(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:44.667111 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: . 246741:248201(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:45.097128 199.181.107.40.ftp-data > hope.winternet.com.40007: P 248201:249661(1460) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x8] 22:11:45.106724 199.181.107.40.ftp > hope.winternet.com.blackjack: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x10] 22:11:45.106844 hope.winternet.com.blackjack > 199.181.107.40.ftp: . ack 0 win 17520 (DF) 22:11:45.306772 199.181.107.40.ftp > hope.winternet.com.blackjack: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) [tos 0x10] 22:11:45.306871 hope.winternet.com.blackjack > 199.181.107.40.ftp: . ack 0 win 17520 (DF) This is a weird problem, and is quite annoying also. I dont know what could be causing it at this point. I hope someone can interpret the tcpdump output and maybe discover a clue in that. -- Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Network Systems Group "Keep honking, I'm reloading." "Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 20:42:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03457 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:42:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03442 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:42:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 6548 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 04:46:01 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 04:46:01 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032398 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803250217.VAA02286@bubble.didi.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:46:01 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update Cc: maillist@candle.pha.pa.us, scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Mar-98 Satoshi Asami wrote: > * Why? > > Because it's a waste of time. If you want to know what happened > before, anyone can go check the mail archives. I think you are still missing the point, by a wide margin: a. It is not a waste of time, because people have to learn, adjust, comprehend and accept. b. The original discussion was on the merits/demerits of the change in the context of FreeBSD build. This discussion was about the impact on unforseen new evidence. The people involved have the right to fit the two realities into a coherent picture. c. The name and location of various pieces of tcl/tk in FreeBSD is a minor discovery in resolving this issue. d. No one has disputed the wisdom of the original reason for the change. No one challenged it either. People simply wanted to know what happened. e. If there is any problem here, it evolves around either making the change in such a manner that established packages, writen and maintained by several people, all broke due to lack of documented migration path. If failure at all (notice the IF), it is of no one of the people involved in this issue, but of someone who is very noisy all of a sudden to squash the discussion. > * I belive the issue is clear, and the course of action identified. > Rather > * than shutting us up, maybe you suggest how we avoid the breakage on > the > * next package? I certainly do not know how (in the context of not > having > > As already suggested, specify the full pathname. That was already done, without any grumbling, nor objection. Relax :-) ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 20:51:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04711 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:51:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04694; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:51:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27558; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:50:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803250450.UAA27558@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org cc: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami), maillist@candle.pha.pa.us, scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:46:01 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:50:45 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Mar-98 Satoshi Asami wrote: > * Why? > Because it's a waste of time. If you want to know what happened > before, anyone can go check the mail archives. We need a decent search engine for the mail archives and possibly also provide a threaded list of the archived messages. If I am not mistaken, the mail archives are stored in ftp.freebsd.org so there is a wonderful opportunity for someone to provide a useful service to the FreeBSD community. If no one takes action as Satoshi said: "anyone can go check the mail archives". Have Fun, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 21:05:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06109 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:05:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06081 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:05:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 5892 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 05:08:57 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 05:08:57 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032398 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803250358.TAA27161@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:08:56 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update Cc: teo@flex.ro, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@hub.org, Bruce Momjian Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Mar-98 Amancio Hasty wrote: > Hi Guys, > > You have to be a little bit more specific as to what is failing. > > Had not problems creating a table and adding fields with the > pgaccess script found in postgress 6.3.1. Oh, sorry. Go to the Query tab in the main menu, select it, press New, then enter a non-SELECT query. Execute it. It will fail with a syntax error near the first word (create/insert/update/delete/etc. I think the API used to send queries to the database uses different execution paths for SELECT and all others (SELECT is the only one returning instances, etc.). The problem may be that pgaccess call the SELECT type routine for all queries. The ``syntax error'' message is probably misleading. Let's wait to hear from the author. Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 21:14:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07888 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:14:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ache.relcom.ru (ache@ache.relcom.ru [193.125.20.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07876 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@ache.relcom.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.relcom.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06533; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:13:40 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Message-ID: <19980325081339.47025@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:13:39 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Tom Bartol , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc bug in -current!!! Mail-Followup-To: Tom Bartol , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from bartol@salk.edu on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:44:04AM -0800 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:44:04AM -0800, Tom Bartol wrote: > > I just found and narrowed down the following bug in gcc in -current after > a cvsup and make world as of Mon Mar 23 12:14:55 PST. This bug appears to > have crept in sometime between then and Feb 14. Included below is a small I confirm this bug present. To narrow down search path, even cc from Mar 6 works fine. Here is diff from assembler code generated by old and new cc (without optimization), old first: as we see, main change is that "fildq" replaced with "fildll". 3c3 < ___gnu_compiled_c: --- > .globl ___main 5c5 < .align 2 --- > .p2align 2 10c10 < .align 2 --- > .p2align 2 24c24 < .align 2 --- > .p2align 2 43c43 < fildq (%esp) --- > fildll (%esp) 53c53 < fildq (%esp) --- > fildll (%esp) 63c63 < fildq (%esp) --- > fildll (%esp) 73c73 < fildq (%esp) --- > fildll (%esp) 107c107 < .align 2,0x90 --- > .p2align 2,0x90 115a116 > .ident "GCC: (GNU) 2.7.2.1" -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 22:17:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15064 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14988 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:17:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA00435 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:16:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:16:52 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: dpt boot disk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a boot floppy available with the dpt adapter code. ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 22:29:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16917 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:29:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16912 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:29:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24491; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:27:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Manfred Antar cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dpt boot disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:16:52 PST." Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:27:51 -0800 Message-ID: <24488.890807271@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is there a boot floppy available with the dpt adapter code. For 2.2.6, there will be. Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 22:52:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20189 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:52:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20184 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:52:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01400; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:51:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:51:59 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dpt boot disk In-Reply-To: <24488.890807271@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Is there a boot floppy available with the dpt adapter code. > > For 2.2.6, there will be. > > Jordan > Great it's a pain to have to change adapters to do fixit stuff. Any plans to put one on the current snapshots ? Thanks Manfred ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 22:55:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20974 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20949 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:55:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24710; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Manfred Antar cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dpt boot disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:51:59 PST." Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:55:21 -0800 Message-ID: <24707.890808921@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Great it's a pain to have to change adapters to do fixit stuff. > Any plans to put one on the current snapshots ? If Simon has it enabled by default in -current, that'd happen by default. If he doesn't, maybe he should. :) Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 23:10:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23002 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA22944 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:09:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 13810 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 07:13:01 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 07:13:01 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032398 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:13:00 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Manfred Antar Subject: RE: dpt boot disk Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Mar-98 Manfred Antar wrote: > Is there a boot floppy available with the dpt adapter code. Yup. Roam ftp://sendero.simon-shapiro.org/FreeBSD/*/floppies. I'll have a 2.2.6 image there by tomorrow. There are few 3.0-current, with an update to today's/yesterday's current by tomorrow night. Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 23:14:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23679 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA23525 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:13:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 16486 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 07:17:45 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 07:17:45 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032398 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24707.890808921@time.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:17:45 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: dpt boot disk Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Manfred Antar Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Mar-98 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> Great it's a pain to have to change adapters to do fixit stuff. >> Any plans to put one on the current snapshots ? > > If Simon has it enabled by default in -current, that'd happen > by default. If he doesn't, maybe he should. :) He does :-) I am running 3.0 current now with LA of 330.xx on it. So far so good. Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 23:19:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA24313 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:19:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24308 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:19:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA28158; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:12:40 +1100 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:12:40 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803250712.SAA28158@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@nagual.pp.ru, bartol@salk.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc bug in -current!!! Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I confirm this bug present. To narrow down search path, even cc from Mar 6 >works fine. Here is diff from assembler code generated by old and new cc >(without optimization), old first: as we see, main change is that "fildq" >replaced with "fildll". gas doesn't understand fildll (it silently (:-() converts it to fildl). The following not-recently-changed code in i386.c generates the `q'. > case 8: > if (GET_MODE_CLASS (GET_MODE (x)) == MODE_INT) > { >#ifdef GAS_MNEMONICS > PUT_OP_SIZE ('Q', 'q', file); > return; >#else > PUT_OP_SIZE ('Q', 'l', file); /* Fall through */ >#endif > } > The elfization of freebsd.h clobbered the definition of GAS_MNEMONICS by including , and instead of "i386/gstabs.h". "i386/gstabs.h" is included mostly for its side effect of including "i386/gas.h" which defines GAS_MNEMONICS and includes "i386/i386.h" and "i386/bsd.h". This change has some style bugs :<>. Summary: we are now att/linux instead of gas/bsd :-). It's surprising that more didn't break. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 24 23:43:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26453 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:43:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26448 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:43:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelh@cet.co.jp) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.8/CET-v2.2) with SMTP id HAA15011 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:42:16 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:42:16 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: More WILLRELE testers wanted Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm getting rid of WILLRELE a little by little but since it affects a lot of fs code I need more testers. I've tested on ffs by doing a few make worlds and I'm using a testing tool I hacked together with Terry's testset and systat/vmstat code. I particularly need testers who have access to isolated nfs environments and also for users of ipfilter. To get the latest patches and the testing tool access the following URLs: http://www.freebsd.org/~mch/vop1.tgz http://www.freebsd.org/~mch/testvn.tgz Suggestions on more tests to add are welcome, please send diffs. Regards, Mike Hancock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 00:07:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28212 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:07:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA28207 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:07:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03973; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:28:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:28:26 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: Simon Shapiro cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: dpt boot disk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > On 25-Mar-98 Manfred Antar wrote: > > Is there a boot floppy available with the dpt adapter code. > > Yup. Roam ftp://sendero.simon-shapiro.org/FreeBSD/*/floppies. > I'll have a 2.2.6 image there by tomorrow. There are few 3.0-current, with > an update to today's/yesterday's current by tomorrow night. > > Simon > > Great. I noticed some weirdness with todays current and my dpt controller It might have something to do with the VM86 changes. I could not do a complete dump,the exabyte would flash alot and the scsi bus would hang and i'd have to reboot. I'm going to try a kernel wihout VM86 and see if that makes a difference. Yesterdays kernel works fine. Manfred ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 00:14:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29648 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA29642 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from dale.salk.edu (dale [198.202.70.112]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09152; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:14:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:14:32 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Bartol To: Bruce Evans cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc bug in -current!!! In-Reply-To: <199803250712.SAA28158@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Bruce Evans wrote: > > The elfization of freebsd.h clobbered the definition of GAS_MNEMONICS > by including , and instead of > "i386/gstabs.h". "i386/gstabs.h" is included mostly for its side > effect of including "i386/gas.h" which defines GAS_MNEMONICS and > includes "i386/i386.h" and "i386/bsd.h". This change has some style > bugs :<>. Summary: we are now att/linux instead of gas/bsd :-). It's > surprising that more didn't break. Perhaps more things are broken and are just lying in wait to byte us, Oops, I mean bite us! I found this bug while developing my Monte Carlo simulator code under -current. It showed up as incorrect calculations streaming from my random number generator of all things!!! What good are Monte Carlo simulations with bad random numbers?!! I would suggest rebuilding the world after this one gets fixed (of course), but if anyone has built any ports outside of a world build in the time since this bug crept in, those ports should be rebuilt as well. Tom > > Bruce > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 01:01:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA03606 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA03595 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:01:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 13257 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1998 09:04:15 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 1998 09:04:15 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-032398 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:04:15 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Manfred Antar Subject: RE: dpt boot disk Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Mar-98 Manfred Antar wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > >> >> On 25-Mar-98 Manfred Antar wrote: >> > Is there a boot floppy available with the dpt adapter code. >> >> Yup. Roam ftp://sendero.simon-shapiro.org/FreeBSD/*/floppies. >> I'll have a 2.2.6 image there by tomorrow. There are few 3.0-current, >> with >> an update to today's/yesterday's current by tomorrow night. >> >> Simon >> >> > Great. > I noticed some weirdness with todays current and my dpt controller > It might have something to do with the VM86 changes. I could not > do a complete dump,the exabyte would flash alot and the scsi bus would > hang and i'd have to reboot. I'm going to try a kernel wihout VM86 > and see if that makes a difference. Yesterdays kernel works fine. > Manfred I may be behind here. What has VM86 got to do with the HBA, SCSI bus hanging? In the DPT, the Unix kernel has no access to the SCSI bus. The only thing I can think of is confusing the Exabyte with rubbish, until it sticks it to the bus. I'd love to hear other, more scientific explanations. Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 01:35:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07725 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:35:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eclipse.4d.net (eclipse.4dcomm.com [207.137.152.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07720 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:35:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from justinc@negative.org) Received: from n0ne.m0re.negative.org (justinc@n0ne.m0re.negative.org [207.137.155.16]) by eclipse.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA26880 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:36:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:36:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Justin Clay X-Sender: justinc@n0ne.m0re.negative.org To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cron/sendmail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I get this error: Mar 25 01:33:49 n0ne /kernel: pid 6799 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 cron also does the same thing... it doesn't start at any very specific as far as i can tell, but once it starts it doesn't stop until i reboot or kill cron or sendmail... i saw a few people say they had it but a cvsup and a make world fixed it? i have done that on 2 seperate occasions now but i still get this problem. any info on the subject would be greatly appreciated! laterz Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 01:45:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08837 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:45:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from p.funk.org (p.funk.org [194.109.86.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08828 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:45:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexlh@p.funk.org) Received: (from alexlh@localhost) by p.funk.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00928; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:45:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alexlh) Message-ID: <19980325104506.60902@p.funk.org> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:45:06 +0100 From: Alex Le Heux To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linux binaries that don't run? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, How come that some Linux binaries run fine, but others don't: p:/usr/local/uo $ ./uo ELF binary type not known Abort trap p:/usr/local/uo $ file patchclient patchclient: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked, not stripped Is there something the author can do to make it run? Alex -- A computer without Windows is like a fish without a bicycle. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 01:52:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10235 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:52:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10220 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (pb@mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.12-nospam) with ESMTP id KAA18111; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:52:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970301) id KAA10548; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:51:56 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980325105155.JQ37376@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:51:55 +0100 From: Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr (Pierre Beyssac) To: alexlh@funk.org (Alex Le Heux) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux binaries that don't run? References: <19980325104506.60902@p.funk.org> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980325104506.60902@p.funk.org>; from Alex Le Heux on Mar 25, 1998 10:45:06 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Alex Le Heux: > How come that some Linux binaries run fine, but others don't: > > p:/usr/local/uo $ ./uo > ELF binary type not known > Abort trap > > Is there something the author can do to make it run? _You_can : brandelf -t Linux ./uo -- Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 01:52:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10425 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:52:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA10420 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA13026; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:17:03 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803250817.JAA13026@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Linux binaries that don't run? To: alexlh@funk.org (Alex Le Heux) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:17:03 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980325104506.60902@p.funk.org> from "Alex Le Heux" at Mar 25, 98 10:44:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > How come that some Linux binaries run fine, but others don't: > > p:/usr/local/uo $ ./uo > ELF binary type not known some time ago someone suggested me to use the "brandelf" program -- look at the manpage, i don't remember which options were necessary. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 06:15:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14140 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:15:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA14129 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:15:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@eurocontrol.fr) Received: by atena.eurocontrol.fr; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA13129; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:14:53 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (8.9.0.Beta3/caerdonn-1.6/nospam) id PAA00271; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:14:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-Id: <19980325151452.61717@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:14:52 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: "FreeBSD Current Users' list" Subject: sig11 with a CURRENT kernel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With a very current kernel, I'm getting sig11 all over the place... Mar 25 15:08:35 caerdonn /kernel: pid 34 (dmesg), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Mar 25 15:08:35 caerdonn /kernel: pid 83 (dset), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Mar 25 15:08:35 caerdonn /kernel: pid 90 (tickadj), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Mar 25 15:08:35 caerdonn /kernel: pid 93 (savecore), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Mar 25 15:08:36 caerdonn /kernel: pid 101 (xntpd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Mar 25 15:08:36 caerdonn /kernel: pid 116 (kvm_mkdb), uid 0: exited on signal 11 PPro/200 inside a HP XU/6. 64 MB. Kernel config. file available. My other kernel dated Mar. 9th is running fine. Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #25: Mon Mar 9 16:20:19 CET 1998 roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/CAERDONN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz cost 3519 ns Timecounter "TSC" frequency 199717780 Hz cost 281 ns CPU: Pentium Pro (199.72-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Features=0xfbff real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 63234048 (61752K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x88 on pci0.0.0 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.2.0 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 2033MB (4165272 512 byte sectors) ahc0: target 1 Tagged Queuing Device sd1 at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 2033MB (4165272 512 byte sectors) st0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 st0: type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0: Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 fxp0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 08:00:09:dc:23:7e chip1: rev 0x04 on pci0.20.0 chip2: rev 0x04 on pci0.25.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 pcm0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy wcd0: 1377Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked ep0 not found at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to sd0s2a -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr FreeBSD caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr 3.0-CURRENT #25: Mon Mar 9 16:20:19 CET 1998 roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/CAERDONN i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 07:23:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23277 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:23:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23253 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA00429; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:23:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:23:06 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: panic ufs_dirbad Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG while doing a make world I get a panic. fsck can't fix the partition. I'm wondering if this is leftover from last weeks changes. My disk was hosed last week when all the file system work was going on. I low level formated it and repartioned it. Then i restored from a mar 10 dump. that seemed to work ok so i supped current and did a make world. /usr/obj which is mounted on /dev/sd0s1g seems to get corrupted after a make world: (manfred)506}fsck /dev/sd0s1g ** /dev/rsd0s1g ** Last Mounted on /usr/obj ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames BAD INODE NUMBER FOR '.' I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 DIR=? FIX? [yn] y BAD INODE NUMBER FOR '..' I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 DIR=/usr/src/tmp/sbin FIX? [yn] y DIRECTORY CORRUPTED I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 DIR=? SALVAGE? [yn] y ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 2263 files, 29822 used, 168773 free (245 frags, 21066 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) fsck will not fix the problem. if i delete /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin manually after remounting the problem doesn't show up. I did a newfs on that partition before make world. ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 07:34:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25264 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:34:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25257 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:34:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA28251; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:34:21 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id JAA01015; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:34:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980325093420.16073@mcs.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:34:20 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Manfred Antar Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: ; from Manfred Antar on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 07:23:06AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 07:23:06AM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > while doing a make world I get a panic. > fsck can't fix the partition. I'm wondering if this is > leftover from last weeks changes. My disk was hosed last week > when all the file system work was going on. > I low level formated it and repartioned it. Then i restored from a > mar 10 dump. that seemed to work ok so i supped current and did a > make world. /usr/obj which is mounted on /dev/sd0s1g seems to > get corrupted after a make world: > > (manfred)506}fsck /dev/sd0s1g > ** /dev/rsd0s1g > ** Last Mounted on /usr/obj > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames > BAD INODE NUMBER FOR '.' I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 > SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 > DIR=? > FIX? [yn] y > BAD INODE NUMBER FOR '..' I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 > SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 > DIR=/usr/src/tmp/sbin > FIX? [yn] y > DIRECTORY CORRUPTED I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 > SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 > DIR=? > SALVAGE? [yn] y > ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity > ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts > ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups > 2263 files, 29822 used, 168773 free (245 frags, 21066 blocks, 0.1% > fragmentation) > fsck will not fix the problem. if i delete /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin > manually after remounting the problem doesn't show up. > > I did a newfs on that partition before make world. > > ============================== > || mantar@netcom.com || > || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || > ============================== > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 08:24:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04094 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:24:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04087 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:24:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA01359; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:24:32 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id KAA02127; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:24:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980325102432.05005@mcs.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:24:32 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: John Kelly Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad References: <19980325093420.16073@mcs.net> <351c2ef8.216987254@mail.cetlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <351c2ef8.216987254@mail.cetlink.net>; from John Kelly on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 04:24:04PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 04:24:04PM +0000, John Kelly wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:34:20 -0600, Karl Denninger > wrote: > > >What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? > > >On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 07:23:06AM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > >> while doing a make world I get a panic. > > Has there been any progress on the lockups? I tried a kernel of March > 21 and it locked tight while doing a make world. I haven't seen that problem. However, NFS on -CURRENT is at this time very flakey. You can get lockups (which aren't complete - the kernel is still running - pings, etc work, but the system is wedged otherwise) rather easily with heavy NFS I/O traffic. I believe what is going on is symptomatic of a buffer corruption problem that John and I are also chasing. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 08:30:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05055 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:30:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from csla.csl.sri.com (csla.csl.sri.com [192.12.33.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05030 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:30:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gilham@csl.sri.com) Received: from snapdragon.csl.sri.com (snapdragon.csl.sri.com [130.107.18.20]) by csla.csl.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA00102 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from snapdragon.csl.sri.com (localhost.csl.sri.com [127.0.0.1]) by snapdragon.csl.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA07313 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:28:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803251628.IAA07313@snapdragon.csl.sri.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world Makefile Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:28:58 -0800 From: Fred Gilham Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is probably a stupid question, but I've noticed that whenever I do a make world in /usr/src I have to make the following change to the Makefile: Original: BMAKE= ${BMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin/${MAKE} DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} # cross make used for compilation XMAKE= ${XMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin/${MAKE} DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} # cross make used for final installation IXMAKE= ${XMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin/${MAKE} Change: BMAKE= ${BMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}${MAKE} DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} # cross make used for compilation XMAKE= ${XMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}${MAKE} DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} # cross make used for final installation IXMAKE= ${XMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}${MAKE} If I don't do this I get the following error: cd /usr/src && PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/pkg/mh/bin:/homes/gilham/bin:/homes/gilham/bin/i386:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/etc:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/pkg/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/pkg/X11/bin:/usr/openwin/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin//usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp hierarchy /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin//usr/bin/make: not found *** Error code 127 I've had to do this for some time, and I've also noticed it for stable as well. Why? What am I doing wrong? -Fred Gilham gilham@csl.sri.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 08:44:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07788 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kong.dorms.spbu.ru (kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru [195.19.252.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07714 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:44:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kong@kkk.ml.org) Received: from localhost (kong@localhost) by kong.dorms.spbu.ru (8.8.8/kong/0.00) with SMTP id TAA00309; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:43:45 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from kong@kkk.ml.org) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:43:45 +0300 (MSK) From: Hostas Red X-Sender: kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru To: Dmitrij Tejblum cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having problems with msdosfs In-Reply-To: <199803232322.CAA01396@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > Thanks for your backtrace! I hope I found the bug. Try this: > > --- msdosfs_fat.c Tue Mar 3 01:54:31 1998 > +++ msdosfs_fat.c Tue Mar 24 02:06:48 1998 > > (This is actually not tested. I hope now you will see a trouble in some other > place :). If not, I have to create better testing environment :( ) OK, thanks alot. Works fine for me now. At least, writes files onto FAT32. :) Files are OK, i've tested it on archives. Adios, /KONG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 08:46:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08486 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:46:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kong.dorms.spbu.ru (kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru [195.19.252.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08410 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:46:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kong@kkk.ml.org) Received: from localhost (kong@localhost) by kong.dorms.spbu.ru (8.8.8/kong/0.00) with SMTP id TAA00319; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:45:03 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from kong@kkk.ml.org) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:45:03 +0300 (MSK) From: Hostas Red X-Sender: kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru To: Mike Smith cc: Dmitrij Tejblum , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having problems with msdosfs In-Reply-To: <199803240650.WAA15573@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > (read, at least, because write now is broken)), and can't find locale > > > ru_RU.KOI8-R, too. Any suggestions? If i use full path for trantable, it > > > doesn't helps - it can't find a file, where he is. > > > > > > > This is really strange. It works for me just fine (thanks ache!). > > May be, some part of your source out of date? Please tell what exactly > > you do and what exactly it says. > > Sounds like the mount order in /etc/fstab is wrong. Try reversing the > relative orders of your msdos and /usr filesystems. Yes, it was. :) Thanks. Fixed by just moving my 'msdos' line to bottom of fstab. :) Adios, /KONG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 08:47:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08769 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:47:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kong.dorms.spbu.ru (kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru [195.19.252.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08670 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:47:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kong@kkk.ml.org) Received: from localhost (kong@localhost) by kong.dorms.spbu.ru (8.8.8/kong/0.00) with ESMTP id TAA00325; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:46:10 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from kong@kkk.ml.org) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:46:10 +0300 (MSK) From: Hostas Red X-Sender: kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru To: =?koi8-r?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: Dmitrij Tejblum , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Having problems with msdosfs In-Reply-To: <19980324103448.65254@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, áÎÄÒÅÊ þÅÒÎÏ× wrote: > > > (read, at least, because write now is broken)), and can't find locale > > > ru_RU.KOI8-R, too. Any suggestions? If i use full path for trantable, it > > > doesn't helps - it can't find a file, where he is. > > > > This is really strange. It works for me just fine (thanks ache!). > > May be, some part of your source out of date? Please tell what exactly you do and > > what exactly it says. > > Try to mount /usr before /msdos Of coz. :) Fixed. Thanx a lot. Adios, /KONG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 09:37:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20159 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:37:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20130 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (pb@mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.12-nospam) with ESMTP id SAA25905 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970301) id SAA12654; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:37 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980325183736.ZO11624@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:36 +0100 From: Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr (Pierre Beyssac) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CTM still stuck at src-cur 3300 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Still no src-cur patch since March 22nd, any news about when/if it can be fixed ? -- Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 10:26:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01726 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01721 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yHurv-0007Kr-00; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:25:43 -0800 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:25:41 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Alex Le Heux cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux binaries that don't run? In-Reply-To: <19980325104506.60902@p.funk.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Alex Le Heux wrote: > ELF binary type not known ELF binaries need to be branded before use. ELF is a bit stupid in the fact that it doesn't indicate what platform the binary is for. So you need to use brandelf to write the type into the binary, so the loader knows that it is Linux ELF. Apparently, some ELF binaries are branded before you get them. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 10:35:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03932 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:35:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [193.230.201.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03757 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:35:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA25441 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:34:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:34:45 +0200 (EET) From: Penisoara Adrian To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: silo overflows (Was Re: 3.0-RELEASE?) In-Reply-To: <350F9CE6.6C389FB0@camtech.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1299307275-890850885=:24019" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1299307275-890850885=:24019 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Matthew Thyer wrote: > Just a bit more info for the puzzle.... Likewise, here it is my experience with a CYCLADES Cyclom 16YeP multiport board & FreeBSD 3.0-971117-SNAP, both UP & SMP case (please nota that I used the COM ports before installing the multiport board and did get zero "silo overflow"s; also, setting speed to 115200 rather than 57600 makes the no. of overflows grow faster): ---------- Mar 25 19:46:01 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 177) Mar 25 19:50:26 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 178) Mar 25 19:50:58 ady /kernel: cy2: 1 more silo overflow (total 13) Mar 25 20:02:03 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 179) Mar 25 20:03:11 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 180) and so on... --------- Strangely, I get "stray irq" messages at boot-up, that weren't exhibiting before installing the multiport board: --------- Mar 12 10:13:53 ady /kernel: stray irq 15 Mar 12 10:13:56 ady last message repeated 4 times Mar 12 10:13:56 ady /kernel: too many stray irq 15's; not logging any more --------- No X11, one PCI AHA2940AU controller, 2 PCI "ed" NICs, a PCI Cyclades YeP hostcard and a Tridend ISA videocard. Tyan Titan S1563D motherboard with 2xP133, 64Mb RAM. I got the same exhibit on another system (different motherboard, no SCSI, UP). For reference, I attached dmesg output. 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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:57:51 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does nullfs work in -current, and is it safe to use it? How about in 2.2.6? -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 14:16:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18878 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from delirium.eng.bellsouth.net (delirium.eng.bellsouth.net [205.152.6.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18836 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:16:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chk@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net) Received: (from chk@localhost) by delirium.eng.bellsouth.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28773; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:15:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980325171556.54214@delirium.eng.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:15:56 -0500 From: Christian Kuhtz To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: zp0 & multicast? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey gang: Uhm, am I just being braindead and missing something or do the zp0 ifaces (3Com Etherlink III PCMCIA) not support mcast? As you can see, mcast is enabled in the kernel and active on all other interfaces. Looks like I'll have to feed myself a tunnel into my laptop even though I'm on a native mcast, Mbone fed segment. Just slightly puzzled, Chris PS: What is ds0 btw? ;-) lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 zp0: flags=1843 mtu 1500 inet 205.152.6.42 netmask 0xffffff80 broadcast 205.152.6.127 ether 60:9f:25:f0:40:8d tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ds0: flags=8008 mtu 65532 -- Christian Kuhtz (770) 522-4000 BellSouth.net Sr. Network Architect I speak only for myself, and my opinion belongs to me. Atlanta, GA, U.S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 14:20:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20159 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20095 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA26381; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:53 +1100 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:53 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803252215.JAA26381@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, gilham@csl.sri.com Subject: Re: make world Makefile Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >This is probably a stupid question, but I've noticed that whenever I >do a make world in /usr/src I have to make the following change to the >Makefile: > >Original: >BMAKE= ${BMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin/${MAKE} DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} ># cross make used for compilation >XMAKE= ${XMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin/${MAKE} DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} ># cross make used for final installation >IXMAKE= ${XMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin/${MAKE} > > >Change: > >BMAKE= ${BMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}${MAKE} DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} ># cross make used for compilation >XMAKE= ${XMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}${MAKE} DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} ># cross make used for final installation >IXMAKE= ${XMAKEENV} ${WORLDTMP}${MAKE} > > >If I don't do this I get the following error: > >cd /usr/src && PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/pkg/mh/bin:/homes/gilham/bin:/homes/gilham/bin/i386:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/etc:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/pkg/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/pkg/X11/bin:/usr/openwin/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin//usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp hierarchy >/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin//usr/bin/make: not found ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >*** Error code 127 > >I've had to do this for some time, and I've also noticed it for stable >as well. > >Why? What am I doing wrong? You are spelling "make" as "/usr/bin/make" or using a shell that does this. ${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin/${MAKE} should be changed to ${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin/make in the above lines. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 15:24:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28988 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28956 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:24:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelh@cet.co.jp) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.8/CET-v2.2) with SMTP id XAA18420; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:23:00 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:23:00 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: John Polstra cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status of null filesystem? In-Reply-To: <199803252057.MAA13689@austin.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, John Polstra wrote: > Does nullfs work in -current, and is it safe to use it? How about > in 2.2.6? Kato-san has made some definite improvements, but it still has some problems if you use it heavily. I'm in the process of cleaning up the WILLRELE problems, and Tor Egge has done some very good analysis of other existing problems and has suggested some solutions. For example, vnode revocation complicates nullfs's caching of the lower vnode. Tor implemented eager recycling in his private tree and then he suggested tracking the Capability in the nullnode when we discussed alternatives. I think I like this approach better. This is only happening in current. I suggest using it casually, we could use more eyes on it. Regards, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 15:27:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29973 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:27:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29917 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:27:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA29759; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:22:51 +1100 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:22:51 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803252322.KAA29759@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ady@warpnet.ro, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: silo overflows (Was Re: 3.0-RELEASE?) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Likewise, here it is my experience with a CYCLADES Cyclom 16YeP multiport >board & FreeBSD 3.0-971117-SNAP, both UP & SMP case (please nota that I >used the COM ports before installing the multiport board and did get zero >"silo overflow"s; also, setting speed to 115200 rather than 57600 makes >the no. of overflows grow faster): This problem is well known. The PCI version of the cy driver doesn't use fast interrupts, so at 115200 bps, it is likely to drop about N fifos full of input whenever another driver preempts of masks cy interrupts for N+0.5 msec. The keyboard driver usually masks (non-fast) cy interrupts for more than several msec to program the keyboard LEDs; PIO drivers like the PIO wd driver can preempt (non-fast) interrupts for even longer if the disk is fast and the controller is slow... >---------- >Mar 25 19:46:01 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 177) >Mar 25 19:50:26 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 178) >Mar 25 19:50:58 ady /kernel: cy2: 1 more silo overflow (total 13) >Mar 25 20:02:03 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 179) >Mar 25 20:03:11 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 180) It's doing well to get only one at a time :-). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 15:54:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03937 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:54:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03464 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:53:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fcurrent@jraynard.demon.co.uk) Received: (from fcurrent@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01033; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:37:48 GMT (envelope-from fcurrent) Message-ID: <19980325203746.54927@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:37:47 +0000 From: James Raynard To: Kevin Day Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Panic while in tulip code References: <199803250348.VAA29530@home.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199803250348.VAA29530@home.dragondata.com>; from Kevin Day on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:48:51PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:48:51PM -0600, Kevin Day wrote: > > I received the following tonight: > > panic: page fault while in kernel mode > > This kernel is from the 14th..... Argh! Where have you been for the last two weeks?? If that's the biggest problem you're having, count yourself lucky, back up your system while you still have a filesystem left on it and pray that it'll stay up long enough for you to compile a new kernel. Friday 13th was an extremely unlucky day for the -current kernel and gave rise to floods of "Good Times Virus" lookalike mails on this list (except they weren't fakes). How did you manage to miss them? James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 15:55:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04085 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04055 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:55:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA12777; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:55:35 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199803252355.RAA12777@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Panic while in tulip code In-Reply-To: <19980325203746.54927@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from James Raynard at "Mar 25, 98 08:37:47 pm" To: fcurrent@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:55:34 -0600 (CST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 09:48:51PM -0600, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > I received the following tonight: > > > > panic: page fault while in kernel mode > > > > This kernel is from the 14th..... > > Argh! Where have you been for the last two weeks?? > > If that's the biggest problem you're having, count yourself lucky, > back up your system while you still have a filesystem left on > it and pray that it'll stay up long enough for you to compile a new > kernel. Friday 13th was an extremely unlucky day for the -current > kernel and gave rise to floods of "Good Times Virus" lookalike mails > on this list (except they weren't fakes). How did you manage to > miss them? > > James > Sorry, ignore that... The kernel was from the 12th, but I rebuilt it on the 14th. :) I didn't miss the whole discussion. :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 16:16:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07314 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07303 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:16:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32153; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:13:23 +1100 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:13:23 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803260013.LAA32153@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: fcurrent@jraynard.demon.co.uk, toasty@home.dragondata.com Subject: Re: Panic while in tulip code Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> > This kernel is from the 14th..... >> >> Argh! Where have you been for the last two weeks?? >> >> If that's the biggest problem you're having, count yourself lucky, >> back up your system while you still have a filesystem left on >> it and pray that it'll stay up long enough for you to compile a new >> kernel. Friday 13th was an extremely unlucky day for the -current >> kernel and gave rise to floods of "Good Times Virus" lookalike mails >> on this list (except they weren't fakes). How did you manage to >> miss them? >> >> James >> > >Sorry, ignore that... The kernel was from the 12th, but I rebuilt it on the >14th. :) > >I didn't miss the whole discussion. :) Besides, it wasn't broken until the 15th (17:56:06 PST), so it wasn't broken on the 14th in most of the world. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 16:31:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08988 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:31:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from veenet.value.net (root@value.net [204.188.125.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08982 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:31:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john4250@value.net) Received: from john (bv80.value.net [209.21.1.80]) by veenet.value.net (8.8.7/8.7.4) with SMTP id QAA12526 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:31:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000501bd584e$4c81a4a0$500115d1@john> From: "John W." To: Subject: Subscribe Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:29:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 16:56:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12961 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:56:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12954 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:56:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14172; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:56:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:56:18 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: Karl Denninger cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad In-Reply-To: <19980325093420.16073@mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? > > -- > -- > Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin > http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV > | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! > Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS > Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost > > On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 07:23:06AM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > > while doing a make world I get a panic. > > fsck can't fix the partition. I'm wondering if this is > > leftover from last weeks changes. My disk was hosed last week > > when all the file system work was going on. > > I low level formated it and repartioned it. Then i restored from a > > mar 10 dump. that seemed to work ok so i supped current and did a > > make world. /usr/obj which is mounted on /dev/sd0s1g seems to > > get corrupted after a make world: > > > > (manfred)506}fsck /dev/sd0s1g > > ** /dev/rsd0s1g > > ** Last Mounted on /usr/obj > > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > > ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames > > BAD INODE NUMBER FOR '.' I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 > > SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 > > DIR=? > > FIX? [yn] y > > BAD INODE NUMBER FOR '..' I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 > > SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 > > DIR=/usr/src/tmp/sbin > > FIX? [yn] y > > DIRECTORY CORRUPTED I=43011 OWNER=bin MODE=40755 > > SIZE=512 MTIME=Mar 25 00:49 1998 > > DIR=? > > SALVAGE? [yn] y > > ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity > > ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts > > ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups > > 2263 files, 29822 used, 168773 free (245 frags, 21066 blocks, 0.1% > > fragmentation) > > fsck will not fix the problem. if i delete /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin > > manually after remounting the problem doesn't show up. > > > > I did a newfs on that partition before make world. > > March 24 about 6 p.m. pacific To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 17:22:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18196 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:22:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18161 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:21:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00345; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: Karl Denninger cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad In-Reply-To: <19980325093420.16073@mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? > March 24 6 p.m. pacific Today: I just did a make world today without having /usr/obj on a seperate partition. I rebooted and did fsck on /usr , no problems. For the past couple of days I have been doing make world's with /usr/obj on it's own partition (same disk) some complete some lock up. but every time /usr/obj is corupted with bad dirs (usually just one). I'm wondering if I have a bad disk, it's a brand new quantum Atlas 4.3 gig ? Manfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 17:22:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18286 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:22:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18281 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:22:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id TAA01171; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:22:51 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id TAA12036; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:22:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980325192250.32639@mcs.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:22:50 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Manfred Antar Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad References: <19980325093420.16073@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: ; from Manfred Antar on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:21:47PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:21:47PM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? > > > March 24 6 p.m. pacific > Today: > I just did a make world today without having /usr/obj on a seperate > partition. I rebooted and did fsck on /usr , no problems. > For the past couple of days I have been doing make world's with > /usr/obj on it's own partition (same disk) some complete some lock up. > but every time /usr/obj is corupted with bad dirs (usually just one). > I'm wondering if I have a bad disk, it's a brand new quantum Atlas 4.3 > gig ? > > Manfred Hmmmm... did you used to have a kernel on that machine from the "bad" time? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 17:33:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19829 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:33:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19799 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:32:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00413; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:32:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:32:45 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: Karl Denninger cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad In-Reply-To: <19980325192250.32639@mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:21:47PM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? > > > > > March 24 6 p.m. pacific > > Today: > > I just did a make world today without having /usr/obj on a seperate > > partition. I rebooted and did fsck on /usr , no problems. > > For the past couple of days I have been doing make world's with > > /usr/obj on it's own partition (same disk) some complete some lock up. > > but every time /usr/obj is corupted with bad dirs (usually just one). > > I'm wondering if I have a bad disk, it's a brand new quantum Atlas 4.3 > > gig ? > > > > Manfred > > Hmmmm... did you used to have a kernel on that machine from the "bad" time? > Yes It got so bad that I had to low level format it. Then restore off of tape from Mar 10. The tape I used was from another disk a 4.1 gig seagate. Manfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 17:44:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21124 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:44:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21117 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:44:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id TAA02962; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:44:07 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id TAA12389; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:44:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980325194406.01960@mcs.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:44:06 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Manfred Antar Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad References: <19980325192250.32639@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: ; from Manfred Antar on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:32:45PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:32:45PM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:21:47PM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > > > What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? > > > > > > > March 24 6 p.m. pacific > > > Today: > > > I just did a make world today without having /usr/obj on a seperate > > > partition. I rebooted and did fsck on /usr , no problems. > > > For the past couple of days I have been doing make world's with > > > /usr/obj on it's own partition (same disk) some complete some lock up. > > > but every time /usr/obj is corupted with bad dirs (usually just one). > > > I'm wondering if I have a bad disk, it's a brand new quantum Atlas 4.3 > > > gig ? > > > > > > Manfred > > > > Hmmmm... did you used to have a kernel on that machine from the "bad" time? > > > Yes > It got so bad that I had to low level format it. Then restore off of tape > from Mar 10. The tape I used was from another disk a 4.1 gig seagate. > Manfred Well, I'm seeing the "tulip" panic and one in some of the ffs routines with a current kernel from today right now. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 17:57:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23118 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:57:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23101 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:57:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02982; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:57:03 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: Karl Denninger cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad In-Reply-To: <19980325194406.01960@mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:32:45PM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:21:47PM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? > > > > > > > > > March 24 6 p.m. pacific > > > > Today: > > > > I just did a make world today without having /usr/obj on a seperate > > > > partition. I rebooted and did fsck on /usr , no problems. > > > > For the past couple of days I have been doing make world's with > > > > /usr/obj on it's own partition (same disk) some complete some lock up. > > > > but every time /usr/obj is corupted with bad dirs (usually just one). > > > > I'm wondering if I have a bad disk, it's a brand new quantum Atlas 4.3 > > > > gig ? > > > > > > > > Manfred > > > > > > Hmmmm... did you used to have a kernel on that machine from the "bad" time? > > > > > Yes > > It got so bad that I had to low level format it. Then restore off of tape > > from Mar 10. The tape I used was from another disk a 4.1 gig seagate. > > Manfred > > Well, I'm seeing the "tulip" panic and one in some of the ffs routines with > a current kernel from today right now. > I have a cvs tree on another disk I think I'll build a kernel from the 12th and see what happens. Manfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 19:21:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03832 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:21:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03826 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:21:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.2/nospam) with UUCP id EAA02432 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:20:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.9.0.Beta2/keltia-2.14/nospam) id AAA10589; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:29:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19980326002958.A10562@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:29:58 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux binaries that don't run? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980325104506.60902@p.funk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Tom on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 10:25:41AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#4121 AMD-K6 MMX @ 225 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Tom: > ELF binaries need to be branded before use. ELF is a bit stupid in the > fact that it doesn't indicate what platform the binary is for. So you > need to use brandelf to write the type into the binary, so the loader > knows that it is Linux ELF. Nitpicking: that does concern only _static_ binaries. Dynamic have the loader's name encoded and don't need to be "branded". -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 1 18:50:39 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 19:21:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03882 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03847 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:21:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.2/nospam) with UUCP id EAA02435 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:21:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.9.0.Beta2/keltia-2.14/nospam) id AAA10605; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:33:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19980326003303.B10562@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:33:03 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status of null filesystem? Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199803252057.MAA13689@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.4i In-Reply-To: <199803252057.MAA13689@austin.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 12:57:51PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#4121 AMD-K6 MMX @ 225 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to John Polstra: > Does nullfs work in -current, and is it safe to use it? How about > in 2.2.6? Haven't tried for a few weeks but last I used it, trying to run binaries gave a panic (locking against myself). It is not up to date with recent VFS changes, John told me. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 1 18:50:39 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 19:30:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05090 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05024 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:29:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA01233; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:31:14 +0600 (NS) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:31:14 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: John Polstra cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status of null filesystem? In-Reply-To: <199803252057.MAA13689@austin.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, there! On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, John Polstra wrote: > Does nullfs work in -current, and is it safe to use it? How about > in 2.2.6? renaming files on nullfs sometimes causes silent reboots === cut here === Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.6-BETA #0: Sun Mar 22 04:01:15 NS 1998 fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/iclub CPU: Pentium (200.46-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 63873024 (62376K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 vx0 <3COM 3C590 Etherlink III PCI> rev 0 int a irq 12 on pci0:9:0 utp[*utp*] address 00:20:af:f7:3c:33 Warning! Defective early revision adapter! vga0 rev 64 int a irq 10 on pci0:11:0 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:12:0 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "IBM DCAS-34330 S61A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors) sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 8205 cyls, 6 heads, and an average 171 sectors/track ahc0: target 1 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:1:0): "IBM DCAS-34330 S61A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors) sd1(ahc0:1:0): with 8205 cyls, 6 heads, and an average 171 sectors/track (ahc0:3:0): "NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:222 3.1k" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:3:0): CD-ROM can't get the size Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.1 changing root device to sd0s2a Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. struct nfsuid bloated (> 128bytes) Try unionizing the nu_nickname and nu_flag fields === cut here === === cut here === /dev/sd0s1a on / (local) /dev/sd0s1f on /usr (asynchronous, NFS exported, local, noatime, with quotas) /dev/sd0s1e on /var (asynchronous, local, noatime) mfs:20 on /tmp (asynchronous, local) /dev/sd1s1a on /home (asynchronous, NFS exported, local, noatime, with quotas) procfs on /proc (local) kernfs on /kern (local) === cut here === /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 20:27:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09581 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:27:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA09576 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:26:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yI4FT-0000i9-00; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:26:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:26:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Ollivier Robert cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux binaries that don't run? In-Reply-To: <19980326002958.A10562@keltia.freenix.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Tom: > > ELF binaries need to be branded before use. ELF is a bit stupid in the > > fact that it doesn't indicate what platform the binary is for. So you > > need to use brandelf to write the type into the binary, so the loader > > knows that it is Linux ELF. > > Nitpicking: that does concern only _static_ binaries. Dynamic have the > loader's name encoded and don't need to be "branded". Strange. The original poster branded his binary, then ran into problems because certain libraries couldn't be found. Sounds like dynically linked to me :) > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr > FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 1 18:50:39 CET 1998 Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 20:51:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12691 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:51:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from manetheren.ural.ru (manetheren.ural.ru [195.64.192.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12683 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adm@ural.ru) Received: from ural.ru (alr.ural.ru [195.64.192.82]) by manetheren.ural.ru (8.8.8/eTn) with ESMTP id JAA13526 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:48:18 GMT Message-ID: <3519DDDE.DDC5B287@ural.ru> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:47:26 +0500 From: "Igor V. Lebedev" Organization: UralWES X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mail to pipe. Question.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I try forward mail to pipe: In /etc/aliases write: msgs: "| cat >> /var/tmp/log " All work fine. Question: How I can change user UID , who invoke script ( cat >> /var/tmp/log). Now all work from user bin.... ( sendmail ) Igor. P.S. In SCO Unix : msgs: "root | cat >> /var/tmp/log " - this script invoke from root UID To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 21:11:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14790 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:11:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minotaur.com (qmailr@www.minotaur.com [209.70.17.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA14782 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:11:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@minotaur.com) Message-Id: <199803260511.VAA14782@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 17621 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1998 05:10:47 -0000 Received: from roaming.minotaur.com (HELO roaming) (209.70.17.100) by www.minotaur.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 1998 05:10:47 -0000 From: "Jon E. Mitchiner" To: "FreeBSD" <"freebsd-current@freebsd.org"> Subject: FW: Restore/Dump broken? Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:10:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a suspicion that 'restore' is broken somehow as I have a new tape drive in our web server machine (SONY SDT-7000) and backups work without any problems. The problem occurs when we try to restore files as we lost a file today, and bang, restore wouldn't work at all. Below is a list of the commands I did to test restore on a new clean tape to make sure it's not something else: www# dump -0u -a -f /dev/rst0 /usr/local DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Mar 25 18:52:22 1998 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/rsd1s1e (/usr/local) to /dev/rst0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 84334 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: 72.94% done, finished in 0:01 DUMP: DUMP: 84372 tape blocks on 1 volumes(s) DUMP: finished in 389 seconds, throughput 216 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Wed Mar 25 18:52:22 1998 DUMP: Closing /dev/rst0 DUMP: DUMP IS DONE www# mt -f /dev/rst0 rewind www# restore -f /dev/rst0 -i tape read error: No such file or directory www# So the last error confuses me. I thought perhaps there was something broken with the tape drive -- e.g. it not being able to read or something so I went with tar and was able to write and read back from the tape drive which leads me to determine 'restore' is not working, atleast not from the current sources dated around 3/5/98 I believe. Is there a known problem/workaround for this? Thanks! Jon ___________________________________________________________________________ Jon E. Mitchiner - jon@minotaur.com Minotaur Technologies, LLC - http://www.minotaur.com - (703) 560-0683 (FAX) Digital Alpha 164SX systems for sale! 533 MHz CPU with motherboard $795. $869 in case. http://www.minotaur.net/cgi-bin/Pricing.cgi?sub=Alpha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 25 21:30:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16404 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:30:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16396 for <"freebsd-current@freebsd.org"@hub.freebsd.org>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:30:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mantar@netcom.com) Received: from dual (DUAL [192.187.167.136]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA03545; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:30:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mantar@netcom.com) Message-Id: <199803260530.VAA03545@mantar.slip.netcom.com> X-Sender: null@mantar.slip.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:30:28 -0800 To: "Jon E. Mitchiner" , "FreeBSD" <"freebsd-current@freebsd.org"@hub.freebsd.org> From: Manfred Antar Subject: Re: FW: Restore/Dump broken? In-Reply-To: <199803260511.VAA14782@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:10 AM 3/26/98 -0500, Jon E. Mitchiner wrote: > >I have a suspicion that 'restore' is broken somehow as I have a new tape >drive in our web server machine (SONY SDT-7000) and backups work without any >problems. The problem occurs when we try to restore files as we lost a file >today, and bang, restore wouldn't work at all. Below is a list of the >commands I did to test restore on a new clean tape to make sure it's not >something else: > >www# dump -0u -a -f /dev/rst0 /usr/local > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Mar 25 18:52:22 1998 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping /dev/rsd1s1e (/usr/local) to /dev/rst0 > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 84334 tape blocks. > DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] > DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] > DUMP: 72.94% done, finished in 0:01 > DUMP: DUMP: 84372 tape blocks on 1 volumes(s) > DUMP: finished in 389 seconds, throughput 216 KBytes/sec > DUMP: level 0 dump on Wed Mar 25 18:52:22 1998 > DUMP: Closing /dev/rst0 > DUMP: DUMP IS DONE >www# mt -f /dev/rst0 rewind >www# restore -f /dev/rst0 -i >tape read error: No such file or directory >www# > >So the last error confuses me. I thought perhaps there was something broken >with the tape drive -- e.g. it not being able to read or something so I went >with tar and was able to write and read back from the tape drive which leads >me to determine 'restore' is not working, atleast not from the current >sources dated around 3/5/98 I believe. > >Is there a known problem/workaround for this? > it may be your command try man restore restore ifsv /dev/rst0 1 works for me (interactive) also restore xfsv /dev/rst0 1 works (the whole thing) I have 3 file systems on one tape. 1 is for / 2 /var 3 /usr |=======================| | mantar@netcom.com | | Ph. (415) 681-6235 | |=======================| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 01:34:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08784 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:34:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08779 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (pb@mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.12-nospam) with ESMTP id KAA00358; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:34:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970301) id KAA14294; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:34:27 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:34:27 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803260934.KAA14294@mars.hsc.fr> From: pb@fasterix.freenix.org (Pierre Beyssac) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, ipv6-bsd-user@imag.fr Subject: ANNOUNCE: INRIA IPv6 for FreeBSD-current Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG IPv6 for FreeBSD-current This is a port of the INRIA IPv6 implementation to FreeBSD-current, based on the January 1998 release of the INRIA code for FreeBSD 2.2.5 and on the March 22nd, 1998 version of FreeBSD-current. This port to -current is currently alpha quality. It's working for the most part, but is still largely untested. It is available at: ftp://frmug.org/pub/ipv6/ipv6-19980326.tar.gz Please send comments, patches, corrections to Pierre Beyssac The original INRIA IPv6 for FreeBSD-2.2.5 and docs can be found at: ftp://ftp.inria.fr/network/ipv6/freebsd/New.tar.gz ftp://ftp.inria.fr/network/ipv6/docs.tar.gz However, note that only the latest release (currently March 1998) is available on this site. The port to FreeBSD-current is based on the January 1998 release of the INRIA port. -- Pierre Beyssac pb@fasterix.frmug.org pb@fasterix.freenix.org {Free,Net,Open}BSD, Linux : il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 01:40:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09768 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:40:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.ftf.dk (root@mail.ftf.dk [129.142.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09738 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk) Received: from mail.prosa.dk ([192.168.100.2]) by firewall.ftf.dk (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA32139; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:33:06 +0100 Received: from deepo.prosa.dk (deepo.prosa.dk [192.168.100.10]) by mail.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) with ESMTP id KAA08617; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:53:45 +0100 (CET) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by deepo.prosa.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) id KAA00826; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:39:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19980326103912.32461@deepo.prosa.dk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:39:12 +0100 From: Philippe Regnauld To: Pierre Beyssac Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: INRIA IPv6 for FreeBSD-current References: <199803260934.KAA14294@mars.hsc.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199803260934.KAA14294@mars.hsc.fr>; from Pierre Beyssac on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 10:34:27AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386 Organization: PROSA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pierre Beyssac writes: > IPv6 for FreeBSD-current > > This is a port of the INRIA IPv6 implementation to FreeBSD-current, > based on the January 1998 release of the INRIA code for FreeBSD > 2.2.5 and on the March 22nd, 1998 version of FreeBSD-current. YES!! I'll be testing this in the next week. (between 2.2.5 and -current). -- -[ Philippe Regnauld / sysadmin / regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk / +55.4N +11.3E ]- «Pluto placed his bad dog at the entrance of Hades to keep the dead IN and the living OUT! The archetypical corporate firewall?» - S. Kelly Bootle, ("MYTHOLOGY", in Marutukku distrib) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 02:59:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17574 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:59:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17569 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:59:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA20496 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:57:36 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199803261057.FAA20496@hda.hda.com> Subject: p1003.1b sched patches AND makesyscalls.sh To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:57:35 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG P1003.1B sched patches are on freefall in ~dufault/p1003_1b.tgz. Anyone care to review? makesyscall.sh: I notice that the output files are in the cvs tree. Am I supposed to generate the new output files and commit them? Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 05:33:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05246 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:33:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05233 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:33:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19528; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199803261333.FAA19528@austin.polstra.com> To: bde@zeta.org.au Subject: Re: gcc bug in -current!!! In-Reply-To: <199803250712.SAA28158@godzilla.zeta.org.au> References: <199803250712.SAA28158@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:33:39 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199803250712.SAA28158@godzilla.zeta.org.au>, Bruce Evans wrote: > >I confirm this bug present. To narrow down search path, even cc from Mar 6 > >works fine. Here is diff from assembler code generated by old and new cc > >(without optimization), old first: as we see, main change is that "fildq" > >replaced with "fildll". > > gas doesn't understand fildll (it silently (:-() converts it to fildl). This patch to "as" fixes the test case, and I think it's correct. This is not to say that the compiler shouldn't be fixed. But the assembler should be fixed too, and that's easier. :-) I haven't done a make world with this, or any large-scale testing at all. (My -current system is in a bit of a mess at the moment.) Does anybody see a problem with it? Index: i386.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/as/opcode/i386.h,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 i386.h --- i386.h 1997/07/15 07:56:53 1.8 +++ i386.h 1998/03/26 13:15:44 @@ -472,6 +472,7 @@ {"fldl", 1, 0xdd, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem double */ {"fldl", 1, 0xd9c0, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ {"filds", 1, 0xdf, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem dword */ +{"fildll", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ {"fildq", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ {"fldt", 1, 0xdb, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem efloat */ {"fbld", 1, 0xdf, 4, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem bcd */ @@ -491,6 +492,7 @@ {"fstpl", 1, 0xdd, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem double */ {"fstpl", 1, 0xddd8, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ {"fistps", 1, 0xdf, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem dword */ +{"fistpll", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ {"fistpq", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ {"fstpt", 1, 0xdb, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem efloat */ {"fbstp", 1, 0xdf, 6, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem bcd */ John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 06:18:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11775 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11750 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20853 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:16:56 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199803261416.JAA20853@hda.hda.com> Subject: p1003.1b for anon-ftp To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:16:55 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Per request: Patches are at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/p1003_1b.tgz -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 06:25:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14391 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:25:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14383 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:25:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12787; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:25:10 GMT Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA02482; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:25:05 GMT Message-ID: <19980326142504.61406@iii.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:25:04 +0000 To: Peter Dufault Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: p1003.1b for anon-ftp References: <199803261416.JAA20853@hda.hda.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199803261416.JAA20853@hda.hda.com>; from Peter Dufault on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 09:16:55AM -0500 Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 09:16:55AM -0500, Peter Dufault wrote: > Per request: Patches are at > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/p1003_1b.tgz And have just been moved to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/misc/p1003_1b.tgz :-) N (one of your friendly incoming/ maintainers) -- Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 06:52:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18906 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [193.230.201.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18888 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:52:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01746; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:50:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:50:22 +0200 (EET) From: Penisoara Adrian To: Bruce Evans cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: silo overflows (Was Re: 3.0-RELEASE?) In-Reply-To: <199803252322.KAA29759@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Bruce Evans wrote: > > Likewise, here it is my experience with a CYCLADES Cyclom 16YeP multiport > >board & FreeBSD 3.0-971117-SNAP, both UP & SMP case (please nota that I > >used the COM ports before installing the multiport board and did get zero > >"silo overflow"s; also, setting speed to 115200 rather than 57600 makes > >the no. of overflows grow faster): > > This problem is well known. The PCI version of the cy driver doesn't > use fast interrupts, so at 115200 bps, it is likely to drop about N fifos > full of input whenever another driver preempts of masks cy interrupts for > N+0.5 msec. The keyboard driver usually masks (non-fast) cy interrupts > for more than several msec to program the keyboard LEDs; PIO drivers > like the PIO wd driver can preempt (non-fast) interrupts for even longer > if the disk is fast and the controller is slow... I suppose there is work undergoing about this very issue... I'm willing to help, I'd love to even (finally, something to "repay" your efforts, my good men :) ), as soon I'll get the forthcoming 6.4Gb SCSI HD beast oline... > > >---------- > >Mar 25 19:46:01 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 177) > >Mar 25 19:50:26 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 178) > >Mar 25 19:50:58 ady /kernel: cy2: 1 more silo overflow (total 13) > >Mar 25 20:02:03 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 179) > >Mar 25 20:03:11 ady /kernel: cy0: 1 more silo overflow (total 180) > > It's doing well to get only one at a time :-). Yes, but it's sometimes pretty annoying. Oh well, as someone was saying, better know about it rather than forget it... ;) > > Bruce > Thanks! Ady (@warpnet.ro) Warp Net Technologies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 09:02:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15009 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:02:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14963 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:01:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from dale.salk.edu (dale [198.202.70.112]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14616; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:01:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:01:17 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Bartol To: John Polstra cc: bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc bug in -current!!! In-Reply-To: <199803261333.FAA19528@austin.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I confirm that this patch fixes the symptoms that prompted my original posting regarding this bug. My random number generator now gives me the correct stream. Thanks!!! Tom On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, John Polstra wrote: > In article <199803250712.SAA28158@godzilla.zeta.org.au>, > Bruce Evans wrote: > > >I confirm this bug present. To narrow down search path, even cc from Mar 6 > > >works fine. Here is diff from assembler code generated by old and new cc > > >(without optimization), old first: as we see, main change is that "fildq" > > >replaced with "fildll". > > > > gas doesn't understand fildll (it silently (:-() converts it to fildl). > > This patch to "as" fixes the test case, and I think it's correct. > This is not to say that the compiler shouldn't be fixed. But the > assembler should be fixed too, and that's easier. :-) > > I haven't done a make world with this, or any large-scale testing at > all. (My -current system is in a bit of a mess at the moment.) Does > anybody see a problem with it? > > Index: i386.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/as/opcode/i386.h,v > retrieving revision 1.8 > diff -u -r1.8 i386.h > --- i386.h 1997/07/15 07:56:53 1.8 > +++ i386.h 1998/03/26 13:15:44 > @@ -472,6 +472,7 @@ > {"fldl", 1, 0xdd, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem double */ > {"fldl", 1, 0xd9c0, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ > {"filds", 1, 0xdf, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem dword */ > +{"fildll", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ > {"fildq", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ > {"fldt", 1, 0xdb, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem efloat */ > {"fbld", 1, 0xdf, 4, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem bcd */ > @@ -491,6 +492,7 @@ > {"fstpl", 1, 0xdd, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem double */ > {"fstpl", 1, 0xddd8, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ > {"fistps", 1, 0xdf, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem dword */ > +{"fistpll", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ > {"fistpq", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ > {"fstpt", 1, 0xdb, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem efloat */ > {"fbstp", 1, 0xdf, 6, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem bcd */ > > > John > -- > John Polstra jdp@polstra.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA > "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 12:44:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20307 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dean.pc.sas.com (sas90162.sas.com [192.58.190.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20256 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:43:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdean@dean.pc.sas.com) Received: (from brdean@localhost) by dean.pc.sas.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12499; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:43:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brdean) Message-Id: <199803262043.PAA12499@dean.pc.sas.com> From: "Brian Dean" Subject: Can a memory filesystem be exported? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:43:11 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: brdean@unx.sas.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running 3.0 current and need to have an mfs filesytem exported via NFS - is this possible? Simply putting the mfs mount point in the /etc/exports file seems to have the effect of exporting the underlying disk, not the memory based information. -Brian -- Brian Dean brdean@unx.sas.com Process Engineering The SAS Institute Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 12:55:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22901 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:55:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scsn.net (ppp58.coladlp1.scsn.net [208.133.153.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22864 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:55:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmaddox@scsn.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by scsn.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00972; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:54:31 GMT (envelope-from root) Message-ID: <19980326155430.29791@scsn.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:54:30 +0000 From: "Donald J.Maddox" To: Tom , Ollivier Robert Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux binaries that don't run? Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Mail-Followup-To: Tom , Ollivier Robert , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980326002958.A10562@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Tom on Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 08:26:36PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 08:26:36PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Ollivier Robert wrote: > > > According to Tom: > > > ELF binaries need to be branded before use. ELF is a bit stupid in the > > > fact that it doesn't indicate what platform the binary is for. So you > > > need to use brandelf to write the type into the binary, so the loader > > > knows that it is Linux ELF. > > > > Nitpicking: that does concern only _static_ binaries. Dynamic have the > > loader's name encoded and don't need to be "branded". > > Strange. The original poster branded his binary, then ran into problems > because certain libraries couldn't be found. Sounds like dynically linked > to me :) In my experience, when you get a message that an ELF binary type is unknown when running a dynamically linked binary, it usually means that the message is caused not by the loading of the dynamic binary, but rather by that binary trying to load another that is _not_ dynamically linked. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 16:00:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16141 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:00:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16119 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:00:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA22399; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:56:31 +1100 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:56:31 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803262356.KAA22399@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jdp@polstra.com Subject: Re: gcc bug in -current!!! Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> gas doesn't understand fildll (it silently (:-() converts it to fildl). > >This patch to "as" fixes the test case, and I think it's correct. >This is not to say that the compiler shouldn't be fixed. But the >assembler should be fixed too, and that's easier. :-) It only took one line to ungeneralise the ifdef in the compiler :-). I have compiled the world. There seemed to be about 50 object differences caused by this change. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 16:13:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18792 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:13:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18719; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:13:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous215.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.215]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25894; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:05:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id XAA00471; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:29:46 +0100 (MET) To: Amancio Hasty Cc: shimon@simon-shapiro.org, asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami), maillist@candle.pha.pa.us, scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update References: <199803250450.UAA27558@rah.star-gate.com> From: Wolfram Schneider Date: 26 Mar 1998 23:29:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:50:45 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 21 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Amancio Hasty writes: > On 25-Mar-98 Satoshi Asami wrote: > > * Why? > > Because it's a waste of time. If you want to know what happened > > before, anyone can go check the mail archives. > > We need a decent search engine for the mail archives and possibly also > provide a threaded list of the archived messages. The FreeBSD mailing list search interface support threads. The thread database will be updated hourly. Of course there are many things to do to make the threads more user friendly. > If I am not mistaken, the mail archives are stored in ftp.freebsd.org so > there is a wonderful opportunity for someone to provide a useful service > to the FreeBSD community. If no one takes action as Satoshi said: > "anyone can go check the mail archives". -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 16:46:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24531 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:46:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24524 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:46:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22979; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:45:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199803270045.QAA22979@austin.polstra.com> To: Bruce Evans cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc bug in -current!!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:56:31 +1100." <199803262356.KAA22399@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:45:58 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There seemed to be about 50 object differences caused by this > change. 50 _kinds_ of changes?! Gads. What are a couple of examples? Curious in Seattle -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 17:10:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27461 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27453 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA25832; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:05:45 +1100 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:05:45 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803270105.MAA25832@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jdp@polstra.com Subject: Re: gcc bug in -current!!! Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> There seemed to be about 50 object differences caused by this >> change. > >50 _kinds_ of changes?! Gads. What are a couple of examples? Just differences. There were some in libraries for things like floatdidf.o, and there are 3 library objects for each library source, so 50 may be an underestimate. I just saw about 100 binary differences and guessed to subtract 50. There are too many gratuitous differences for timestamps and file symbols for temporary object files. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 19:09:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13503 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:09:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.com.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13492 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:09:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-13-48.camtech.net.au [203.55.242.112]) by goliath.camtech.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id NAA22737; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:36:22 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <351B1825.E4611D23@camtech.net.au> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:38:21 +1030 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD CURRENT CC: Pierre Beyssac Subject: Still no news about CTM src-cur Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Whats happened ? The last delta was 3300 and that was March 22nd! I also notice that even though CTM for ports-cur is working flawlessly (and up to 2257), the FTP archive for it at the URL: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/ports-cur is way behind at 2230 having not been updated since March the 5th! -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 19:15:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14803 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:15:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA14794 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:15:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yIPbi-00019k-00; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:15:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:14:59 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Matthew Thyer cc: FreeBSD CURRENT , Pierre Beyssac Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: <351B1825.E4611D23@camtech.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Matthew Thyer wrote: > Whats happened ? See archives. As I understand it, the CTM maitainer has stopped, and there is no new maitainer. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 20:22:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21197 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:22:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21189 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:22:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03743; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:20:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:20:44 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Tom cc: Matthew Thyer , FreeBSD CURRENT , Pierre Beyssac Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Tom wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Matthew Thyer wrote: > > > Whats happened ? > > See archives. As I understand it, the CTM maitainer has stopped, and > there is no new maitainer. Well, I asked Richard about a couple things, he said "Ulf" was the new maintainer, but didn't tell me who "Ulf" was (I did ask him). Since his deadline has passed for further ctm support, he's out of the picture, apparently (he declined to answer any other questions also). Anyone know who "Ulf" is, so we can ask him? I asked Jordan about getting in and looking at it, but Jordan's so overwhelmed getting the new release out (which I can appreciate) that he asked me to let it wait a little bit, until the release was out the door, before looking at it. Probably didn't care to risk me pulling his plug accidentally until later, when the release is history. Again, I guess I have to say that's reasonable. Maybe that's because _MY_ ctm feed (cvs-cur) is still humming away nicely, and I wouldn't be quite as patient if I'd lost cvs-cur. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 20:27:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21943 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:27:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21926 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:27:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id XAA26758; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:23:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: Chuck Robey cc: Tom , Matthew Thyer , FreeBSD CURRENT , Pierre Beyssac Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Chuck Robey wrote: > Anyone know who "Ulf" is, so we can ask him? Zimmermann, Ulf (UZ2) ulf@ALAMEDA.NET Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 20:30:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22536 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:30:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22531 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:30:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04620; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:30:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Chuck Robey cc: Tom , Matthew Thyer , FreeBSD CURRENT , Pierre Beyssac Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:20:44 EST." Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:30:17 -0800 Message-ID: <4616.890973017@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Well, I asked Richard about a couple things, he said "Ulf" was the new > maintainer, but didn't tell me who "Ulf" was (I did ask him). Since his > deadline has passed for further ctm support, he's out of the picture, > apparently (he declined to answer any other questions also). Ulf. Ulf is ulf@freebsd.org - pretty simple to find him. :) Anyway, I've asked Mark Murray to take Ulf's place if he can since Ulf is too busy to administer the CTM machine and Mark has been looking longer than anyone else in this discussion for something to do with his machine, so we'll give him first dibbs on this task. If he doesn't want it, we'll have to find another home for CTM. Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 21:20:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26746 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:20:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au ([203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26738 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:20:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id QAA01657; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:25:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199803270525.QAA01657@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: <4616.890973017@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 26, 98 08:30:17 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:25:17 +1100 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Anyway, I've asked Mark Murray to take Ulf's place if he can since Ulf > is too busy to administer the CTM machine and Mark has been looking > longer than anyone else in this discussion for something to do with > his machine, so we'll give him first dibbs on this task. If he > doesn't want it, we'll have to find another home for CTM. Now that we have cvsup, why is ctm necessary? -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 21:29:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27541 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27534 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:29:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04918; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: John Birrell cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:25:17 +1100." <199803270525.QAA01657@cimlogic.com.au> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:29:24 -0800 Message-ID: <4914.890976564@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some people are very poorly or only intermittently connected to the Internet and still prefer to receive their changes by email. Jordan > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Anyway, I've asked Mark Murray to take Ulf's place if he can since Ulf > > is too busy to administer the CTM machine and Mark has been looking > > longer than anyone else in this discussion for something to do with > > his machine, so we'll give him first dibbs on this task. If he > > doesn't want it, we'll have to find another home for CTM. > > Now that we have cvsup, why is ctm necessary? > > -- > John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org > CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 21:38:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29507 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:38:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au ([203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29494 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:38:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id QAA01710; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:43:14 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: <4914.890976564@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 26, 98 09:29:24 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:43:14 +1100 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Some people are very poorly or only intermittently connected to the > Internet and still prefer to receive their changes by email. Have these people actually tried cvsup? You sure don't need to be connected long. And if the connection is good enough for mail... -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 21:40:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00159 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:40:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00142 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:40:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA12253; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:40:16 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199803270540.HAA12253@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: <199803270525.QAA01657@cimlogic.com.au> from John Birrell at "Mar 27, 98 04:25:17 pm" To: jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:40:16 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Anyway, I've asked Mark Murray to take Ulf's place if he can since Ulf > > is too busy to administer the CTM machine and Mark has been looking > > longer than anyone else in this discussion for something to do with > > his machine, so we'll give him first dibbs on this task. If he > > doesn't want it, we'll have to find another home for CTM. > > Now that we have cvsup, why is ctm necessary? Well I can think of two reasons. You only need email connectivity for it to be usefull and it is a lot cheaper (cpu and disk wise) on your server because it only have to figure out once what to do and then send everybody the same thing. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 21:50:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01424 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:50:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01411 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:50:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA12364; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:49:44 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199803270549.HAA12364@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> from John Birrell at "Mar 27, 98 04:43:14 pm" To: jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:49:44 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Some people are very poorly or only intermittently connected to the > > Internet and still prefer to receive their changes by email. > > Have these people actually tried cvsup? > You sure don't need to be connected long. > And if the connection is good enough for mail... Well, I use cvsup for the machines at work and ctm (cvs) to my home, so I know both. I can ask it the other way, why use your own and the server's resources (cpu, disk and net) to figure out what you need to get, if you want to do it regularly (say update from cron) and if the server can allready know what you need and only send you that? :-) John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 22:03:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02469 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02463 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:03:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA03945; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:02:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:02:00 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: John Birrell cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, John Birrell wrote: > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Some people are very poorly or only intermittently connected to the > > Internet and still prefer to receive their changes by email. > > Have these people actually tried cvsup? > You sure don't need to be connected long. > And if the connection is good enough for mail... You can download mail on a dialup connection that doesn't even support ppp. I do it via zmodem sometimes myself, when I use my university connection. > > -- > John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org > CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 22:33:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05758 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:33:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05751 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (Ipt3EELhszvhNP0o5EC9lWfJVStDv04i@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01336; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:32:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (cr0v4gSvBVKcjiPuWpsd4hrnPLu6GFMG@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11290; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:32:11 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803270632.IAA11290@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Chuck Robey , Tom , Matthew Thyer , FreeBSD CURRENT , Pierre Beyssac Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:31:39 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > Anyway, I've asked Mark Murray to take Ulf's place if he can since Ulf > is too busy to administer the CTM machine and Mark has been looking > longer than anyone else in this discussion for something to do with > his machine, so we'll give him first dibbs on this task. If he > doesn't want it, we'll have to find another home for CTM. I have tooled up for this job already. Please all be patient, I need to get synchronised, and make sure that the next delta that gets sent out is _RIGHT_. I'll work on it this weekend. Jordan: what email addresses do I use to send out the CTMs? I'd like to use an exploder on Hub if that is possible. Also, may I please have access to the FTP area to push the BigOnes that don't go by mail? Thanks! M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 22:34:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06163 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:34:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06134 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (MPeUcXVIYfRT8TubZ9a5Az80sWV0y5ll@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01346; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:34:24 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (1OKknPPq3VJS70ZkgWFTcBfCtevkDykb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11308; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:34:08 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803270634.IAA11308@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: John Birrell cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:33:49 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Birrell wrote: > Now that we have cvsup, why is ctm necessary? For those folk who have slow/expensive links, or email only service. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 22:36:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06708 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:36:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06656 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:36:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (OtOAwXfT2kAgP6pJohFCnpMxFM2cCWVO@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01356; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:36:21 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (67jFDWcZi9Q/E0hmGQKh60yoeAkRT8nn@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11342; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:36:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803270636.IAA11342@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: John Birrell cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:35:57 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Birrell wrote: > Have these people actually tried cvsup? > You sure don't need to be connected long. > And if the connection is good enough for mail... Mail can take all day to get to you. You want to suggest to these folk that they stay all day on the phone to get a 2k patch? :-). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 22:39:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA07591 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:39:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07585 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:39:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05369; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:39:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Mark Murray cc: Chuck Robey , Tom , Matthew Thyer , FreeBSD CURRENT , Pierre Beyssac Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:31:39 +0200." <199803270632.IAA11290@greenpeace.grondar.za> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:39:15 -0800 Message-ID: <5365.890980755@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have tooled up for this job already. Please all be patient, I need > to get synchronised, and make sure that the next delta that gets > sent out is _RIGHT_. I'll work on it this weekend. Sounds good. > Jordan: what email addresses do I use to send out the CTMs? I'd like > to use an exploder on Hub if that is possible. Also, may I please You know, I don't really know the answer to that question. :-) I see a lot of ctm-foo stuff in /etc/aliases on hub, but lord only knows how it all works - I haven't used CTM in years. Perhaps rkw would be willing to fill us in on the details for one last transitionary push here? Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 22:52:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09226 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:52:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09219 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (VXkjGBW72EaWXmenj6DSXDOk5nNzZpEi@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01383; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:52:09 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (FJMRitZDO0hy6qkHwDv4BG4rcVkw6chL@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11466; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:51:34 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803270651.IAA11466@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Chuck Robey , Tom , Matthew Thyer , FreeBSD CURRENT , Pierre Beyssac Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:51:02 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > You know, I don't really know the answer to that question. :-) I see a > lot of ctm-foo stuff in /etc/aliases on hub, but lord only knows how > it all works - I haven't used CTM in years. Perhaps rkw would be > willing to fill us in on the details for one last transitionary push > here? I'll grovel around in Hub's /etc/aliases and ask RKW whats up. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 26 23:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10617 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:02:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10611 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:02:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.2/nospam) with UUCP id IAA17397 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:02:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.9.0.Beta2/keltia-2.14/nospam) id HAA18266; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:49:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19980327074918.A18231@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:49:18 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4616.890973017@time.cdrom.com> <199803270525.QAA01657@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.4i In-Reply-To: <199803270525.QAA01657@cimlogic.com.au>; from John Birrell on Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 04:25:17PM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#4121 AMD-K6 MMX @ 225 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to John Birrell: > Now that we have cvsup, why is ctm necessary? Because not every one is connected 24h/24h, because UUCP is still alive and kicking in various countries and because it is very easy to use through mail. Ollivier who has been receiving CTM deltas by mail since the first one. ... -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody wheel 565974 Mar 27 00:14 cvs-cur.4168.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody wheel 17149 Mar 27 04:08 cvs-cur.4169.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody wheel 26246 Mar 24 22:29 int-cvs-cur.0099.gz -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Mar 1 18:50:39 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 00:48:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20485 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:48:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.ftf.dk (root@mail.ftf.dk [129.142.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20477 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:48:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk) Received: from mail.prosa.dk ([192.168.100.2]) by firewall.ftf.dk (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19289; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:41:19 +0100 Received: from deepo.prosa.dk (deepo.prosa.dk [192.168.100.10]) by mail.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) with ESMTP id KAA10300; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:01:55 +0100 (CET) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by deepo.prosa.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) id JAA17631; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:47:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19980327094710.25740@deepo.prosa.dk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:47:10 +0100 From: Philippe Regnauld To: John Birrell Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur References: <4914.890976564@time.cdrom.com> <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au>; from John Birrell on Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 04:43:14PM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386 Organization: PROSA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Birrell writes: > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Some people are very poorly or only intermittently connected to the > > Internet and still prefer to receive their changes by email. > > Have these people actually tried cvsup? Yes. It doesn't run well over UUCP :-) And no, I cannot run CVSup on any of the machines here (firewall oblige). > You sure don't need to be connected long. > And if the connection is good enough for mail... ... it's good enough for CTM :-) -- -[ Philippe Regnauld / sysadmin / regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk / +55.4N +11.3E ]- «Pluto placed his bad dog at the entrance of Hades to keep the dead IN and the living OUT! The archetypical corporate firewall?» - S. Kelly Bootle, ("MYTHOLOGY", in Marutukku distrib) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 03:35:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10580 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:35:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10565 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:35:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (user4.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18552; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:34:22 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5365.890980755@time.cdrom.com> References: Your message of "Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:31:39 +0200." <199803270632.IAA11290@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:26:12 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur Cc: Mark Murray , FreeBSD CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:39 AM -0600 3/27/98, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> I have tooled up for this job already. Please all be patient, I need >> to get synchronised, and make sure that the next delta that gets >> sent out is _RIGHT_. I'll work on it this weekend. > >Sounds good. > >> Jordan: what email addresses do I use to send out the CTMs? I'd like >> to use an exploder on Hub if that is possible. Also, may I please > >You know, I don't really know the answer to that question. :-) I see a >lot of ctm-foo stuff in /etc/aliases on hub, but lord only knows how >it all works - I haven't used CTM in years. Perhaps rkw would be >willing to fill us in on the details for one last transitionary push >here? Since Mark is already doing ctm generation, I suspect that he can easily take over the administration on Ulf's machine. Everything is set up there and most of the generators are running. Obviously, there is something wrong with src-cur. Since I don't get the output any more, I don't know what it is. I'll sent Mark the login details. Richard Wackerbarth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 07:42:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15400 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enigami.com (enigami.com [208.140.182.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15369 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ckempf@enigami.com) Received: from [208.140.182.45] (symphony.enigami.com [208.140.182.45]) by enigami.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05855 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:41:38 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: ckempfm@enigami.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19980327094710.25740@deepo.prosa.dk> References: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au>; from John Birrell on Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 04:43:14PM +1100 <4914.890976564@time.cdrom.com> <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:40:39 -0500 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Cory Kempf Subject: APM: Too tired to keep working?! Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a DK440LX m'board. It has power management stuffs. So I though I would give it a try, thinking, when the machine isn't doing anything, it doesn't need to keep heating my office. I started a make world last night, 'round 1 AM -- 9 hours ago. I was rather surprized to note that it is still going. It doesn't usually take this long. >From looking about, it seems the machine was sleeping on the job. Is this normal behaviour? If so, I don't think it is correct. I expected the system to finish the build, *THEN* fall asleep. FWIW, running about a week or two old current, with current (last night) kernel. Is this a bug, or is there some configuration thing I have missed? Thanks, +C -- Thinking of purchasing RAM from the Chip Merchant? Please read this first: Cory Kempf Macintosh / Unix Consulting & Software Development ckempf@enigami.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 07:50:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16787 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:50:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16781 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04271; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:50:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA29107; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:50:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:50:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199803271550.IAA29107@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Cory Kempf Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM: Too tired to keep working?! In-Reply-To: References: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> <4914.890976564@time.cdrom.com> <19980327094710.25740@deepo.prosa.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have a DK440LX m'board. It has power management stuffs. So I though I > would give it a try, thinking, when the machine isn't doing anything, it > doesn't need to keep heating my office. > > I started a make world last night, 'round 1 AM -- 9 hours ago. I was > rather surprized to note that it is still going. It doesn't usually take > this long. > > >From looking about, it seems the machine was sleeping on the job. > > Is this normal behaviour? If so, I don't think it is correct. I expected > the system to finish the build, *THEN* fall asleep. APM only tells the system to fall asleep when you tell it to. It has no 'intelligence' built-in. You set when it falls asleep, such as at a certain time, after the battery is low, or whatever. It can set certain items 'asleep' if they've been idle, but the entire system never sleeps unless told to. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 09:22:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27785 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:22:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27760 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:22:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id SAA05925 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:15:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA01170; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:53:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980327175305.19126@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:53:05 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problems with commercial sound package OSS for FreeBSD-current Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I tried to install the OSS (Open Sound System) package from 4front: http://www.4front-tech.com/ And I have problems running soundconf: soundconf* soundoff* soundon* root{105} /usr/lib/oss ./soundconf /usr/lib/oss/oss.o: Undefined symbol `_imen' referenced from text segment /usr/lib/oss/oss.o: Undefined symbol `_imen' referenced from text segment /usr/lib/oss/oss.o: Undefined symbol `_imen' referenced from text segment /usr/lib/oss/oss.o: Undefined symbol `_imen' referenced from text segment modload: /usr/bin/ld: return code 1 Cannot load OSS driver module. What happened with _imen ? Am running -current of March 8, 98 with BISDN and CAM. Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 09:37:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29953 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:37:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (mistwolf@ds9.lesn.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.70.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29948 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:37:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08787; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:35:05 -0500 From: Jamie Norwood Message-Id: <199803271735.MAA08787@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu> Subject: Re: problems with commercial sound package OSS for FreeBSD-current To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:35:05 -0800 (PST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980327175305.19126@klemm.gtn.com> from "Andreas Klemm" at Mar 27, 98 05:53:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We got this here in the office once; make sure you have nothing for sound drivers compiled into your kernel. Removing and recomiling the sound references solved it for us. Jamie > > Hi ! > > I tried to install the OSS (Open Sound System) package from 4front: > http://www.4front-tech.com/ > > And I have problems running soundconf: > > soundconf* soundoff* soundon* > root{105} /usr/lib/oss ./soundconf > /usr/lib/oss/oss.o: Undefined symbol `_imen' referenced from text segment > /usr/lib/oss/oss.o: Undefined symbol `_imen' referenced from text segment > /usr/lib/oss/oss.o: Undefined symbol `_imen' referenced from text segment > /usr/lib/oss/oss.o: Undefined symbol `_imen' referenced from text segment > modload: /usr/bin/ld: return code 1 > Cannot load OSS driver module. > > What happened with _imen ? > > Am running -current of March 8, 98 with BISDN and CAM. > > Andreas /// > > -- > Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas > powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The shadows of life cover the sunlight of the soul, and block out the | | radiance that all have within them, leaving only darkness behind. | +----------------------------+-------------------+------------------------+ |mistwolf@ds9.lesn.lehigh.edu|mistwolf@priori.net|mistwolf@lightbearer.com| +----------------------------+-------------------+------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 10:42:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09855 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:42:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09839 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04560 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:41:51 +0100 (CET) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: parallel port in 1284 mode ? From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:41:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4558.891024110@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anybody gotten that to work with any kind of HP printer ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 10:50:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12231 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:50:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12019; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:49:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199803271849.KAA12019@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: <5365.890980755@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Mar 26, 98 10:39:15 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:49:45 -0800 (PST) Cc: mark@grondar.za, chuckr@glue.umd.edu, tom@uniserve.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I have tooled up for this job already. Please all be patient, I need > > to get synchronised, and make sure that the next delta that gets > > sent out is _RIGHT_. I'll work on it this weekend. > > Sounds good. > > > Jordan: what email addresses do I use to send out the CTMs? I'd like > > to use an exploder on Hub if that is possible. Also, may I please > > You know, I don't really know the answer to that question. :-) I see a > lot of ctm-foo stuff in /etc/aliases on hub, but lord only knows how > it all works - I haven't used CTM in years. Perhaps rkw would be > willing to fill us in on the details for one last transitionary push > here? hub will relays ctm deltas to all subscribers, just like the other mailing lists ;) ctm-src-2_1 ctm-src-2_1-fast ctm-src-2_2 ctm-src-2_2-fast ctm-src-cur ctm-src-cur-fast ctm-ports-cur ctm-cvs-cur ctm-cvs-cur-fast ctm-cvssec-cur ctm-cvs-lbw ctm-gnats jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 10:59:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15120 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:59:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15077 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:59:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11689 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:59:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803271859.KAA11689@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: panic with latest current. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:59:29 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sup the latest -current last nite. Did a make world and recompiled and installed the new kernel. While booting got a panic: lockmgr does not hold exclusive lock. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 11:15:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19394 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19328; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:14:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (4v16EyiQgsF07XhbGdpnqA3TLeZInDHo@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03235; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:14:02 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (QPV6LCdN4pRfrXXTj7t6rW/3w+bqFVrG@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02435; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:14:01 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803271914.VAA02435@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), chuckr@glue.umd.edu, tom@uniserve.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:14:01 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: > hub will relays ctm deltas to all subscribers, > just like the other mailing lists ;) Cool! > ctm-src-2_1 > ctm-src-2_1-fast > ctm-src-2_2 > ctm-src-2_2-fast > ctm-src-cur > ctm-src-cur-fast > ctm-ports-cur > ctm-cvs-cur > ctm-cvs-cur-fast > ctm-cvssec-cur > ctm-cvs-lbw > ctm-gnats Methinks that some of those lists have not been used in many-a-long-year. IIRC - RKW did not generate the *sec* CTM's, and I think *gnats and *lbw are dead too. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 11:17:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20078 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19969; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199803271917.LAA19969@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Still no news about CTM src-cur In-Reply-To: <199803271914.VAA02435@greenpeace.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Mar 27, 98 09:14:01 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:17:11 -0800 (PST) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com, chuckr@glue.umd.edu, tom@uniserve.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray wrote: > "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: > > hub will relays ctm deltas to all subscribers, > > just like the other mailing lists ;) > > Cool! > > > ctm-src-2_1 > > ctm-src-2_1-fast > > ctm-src-2_2 > > ctm-src-2_2-fast > > ctm-src-cur > > ctm-src-cur-fast > > ctm-ports-cur > > ctm-cvs-cur > > ctm-cvs-cur-fast > > ctm-cvssec-cur > > ctm-cvs-lbw > > ctm-gnats > > Methinks that some of those lists have not been used in many-a-long-year. > > IIRC - RKW did not generate the *sec* CTM's, and I think *gnats and > *lbw are dead too. that could well be. i just provide the pipe, not the content ;) jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 12:20:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02820 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:20:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uop.cs.uop.edu (uop.cs.uop.edu [138.9.200.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02814 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:20:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bford@uop.cs.uop.edu) Received: from heather (user174.pop2.cwia.com [209.142.32.174]) by uop.cs.uop.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13938 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:20:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000101bd59bd$cfc92980$0100000a@heather.my.domain> From: "Bret Ford" To: Subject: make buildworld failure Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:20:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When "Rebuilding tools needed to build the libraries" came round during a "make buildworld" with -current sources from ~10:00AM this morning PST, the following explosion occured: ===> cc_int cc -O -DFREEBSD_AOUT -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gc c -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_ NATIVE -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.1\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386- unknown-freebsd\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/us r/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/bc-emit.c -o bc-emit.o In file included from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/freebsd.h :29, from /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools/tm.h:1, from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/xm-i386.h :43, from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/xm-freebs d.h:3, from /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools/config.h:1, from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/bc-emit.c:22: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/att.h:1: parse error at null character *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. My platform is a 486 dx/2 66mhz w/ 8 megs RAM and an Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller. This machine is used to serve an ISDN interface with ppp -alias to our little household LAN---and to fiddle around with! :) I'm compiling with sources on the root drive and the object tree mounted to a 2 gig 5 1/4" full-height HP beast. I'm running with softupdates on the HP drive. I try to do a buildworld every month or so. It's a 24hr+ experience! ;-) Bret Ford To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 12:43:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06645 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:43:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from igor.haunt.com (igor.haunt.com [204.134.9.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06635 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:43:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@igor.haunt.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by igor.haunt.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28899 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:43:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from steve) From: Steven Jorgensen Message-Id: <199803272043.NAA28899@igor.haunt.com> Subject: Posix level? To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:43:12 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just recently, March 8th accoring to the rcsid, a file _posix.h was added to the current tree to setup proper defines for your current POSIX level. In this file, I noticed that the value of _POSIX_VERSION is set to 199009L which is the value set for the version of POSIX defined in 1990. Is this correct? It seems like a pretty old version of the standard to be compliant to. Anyway, the reason I am mailing is that I'm trying to port the next version of Advanced Khoros to FreeBSD current. I maintain the Khoros port to FreeBSD because I don't like linux, and I work from home fairly often. ^:) Anyway, the next version is in beta testing and I'm trying to port it to current, and the following code in _posix.h is preventing me from getting anywhere on it. In the new version, we've upgraded our compliance to 199309L, so #if evaluates to true causing it to error out before even trying to compile: /* I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this, but at least initially * it may catch some teething problems: */ #if defined(_POSIX_C_SOURCE) && (_POSIX_C_SOURCE > _POSIX_VERSION) #error _POSIX_C_SOURCE > _POSIX_VERSION #endif The comment above the #if, even indicates that it may not be legal to error out there. We can handle any parts of POSIX 199309L not supported by FreeBSD current by working around them (we do work fine under 2.x) , but only it if allows our compiles to continue. Is this really the way the _posix.h file should work? Steve -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Steven Jorgensen steve@khoral.com steve@haunt.com ------------------------------+---------------------------- Khoral Research Inc. | PHONE: (505) 837-6500 6200 Uptown Blvd, Suite 200 | FAX: (505) 881-3842 Albuquerque, NM 87110 | URL: http://www.khoral.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 12:59:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10205 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:59:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10193 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:59:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from news@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA04244; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:58:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from news) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:58:47 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3rd IDE controller Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a quick question. Is it possible to support a third IDE controller in -current? I have an SB card which will run 2 IDE CD-ROM on it. As I remember, this thing is set up to use a different address/IRQ than the primary/secondary PCI IDE controllers. brian +-----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ root@bmccane.cavtech.com he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~pictures/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~bmccane/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ +-------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 13:04:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11765 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11723 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:03:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24520; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:02:00 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199803272102.QAA24520@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: Posix level? In-Reply-To: <199803272043.NAA28899@igor.haunt.com> from Steven Jorgensen at "Mar 27, 98 01:43:12 pm" To: steve@igor.haunt.com (Steven Jorgensen) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:01:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just recently, March 8th accoring to the rcsid, a > file _posix.h was added to the current tree to setup > proper defines for your current POSIX level. > > In this file, I noticed that the value of _POSIX_VERSION > is set to 199009L which is the value set for the version > of POSIX defined in 1990. Is this correct? It seems > like a pretty old version of the standard to be compliant > to. Yes, that is the version FreeBSD is compliant to. If you wait another day you can set it to 199309L in /etc/make.conf with some degree of honesty because the feature test macros and sysconf variables are present. > Anyway, the reason I am mailing is that I'm trying to port > the next version of Advanced Khoros to FreeBSD current. > I maintain the Khoros port to FreeBSD because I don't like > linux, and I work from home fairly often. ^:) Anyway, the > next version is in beta testing and I'm trying to port it > to current, and the following code in _posix.h is preventing > me from getting anywhere on it. In the new version, we've > upgraded our compliance to 199309L, so #if evaluates to > true causing it to error out before even trying to compile: > > /* I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this, but at least initially > * it may catch some teething problems: > */ > > #if defined(_POSIX_C_SOURCE) && (_POSIX_C_SOURCE > _POSIX_VERSION) > #error _POSIX_C_SOURCE > _POSIX_VERSION > #endif > > The comment above the #if, even indicates that it may > not be legal to error out there. We can handle any > parts of POSIX 199309L not supported by FreeBSD current > by working around them (we do work fine under 2.x) , but > only it if allows our compiles to continue. > > Is this really the way the _posix.h file should work? I did this to catch when I screwed up my testing because I set _POSIX_VERSION to 199309L and rebuild the tree, and wanted to catch when I was doing what I didn't mean to. I have this taken out in the patches I'm committing, but this means you're specifying an interface (_POSIX_C_SOURCE 199309L) that you know the system doesn't support (_POSIX_VERSION 199009L). Shouldn't Khoros limit _POSIX_C_SOURCE to at most _POSIX_VERSION? For now kill that "#error" off locally and watch for the commits. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 13:40:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19319 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:40:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19229 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:40:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24624; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:38:31 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199803272138.QAA24624@hda.hda.com> Subject: More on posix level In-Reply-To: <199803272102.QAA24520@hda.hda.com> from Peter Dufault at "Mar 27, 98 04:01:59 pm" To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:38:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: steve@igor.haunt.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the code about to be committed, setting _POSIX_C_SOURCE ahead of _POSIX_VERSION is going to hide all POSIX extensions for a date than _POSIX_VERSION, whereas leaving _POSIX_C_SOURCE undefined will allow them to show up. My rationale: Leaving _POSIX_C_SOURCE undefined lets the system do what it wants in the program name space, and traditionally BSD lets extensions show up. Setting _POSIX_C_SOURCE is supposed to hide everything except the POSIX and C Standard symbols for that version. Though I think the standard doesn't specifically talk about what happens when _POSIX_C_SOURCE is set "in the future", in my opinion program behavior shouldn't change, so if _POSIX_VERSION is 199009L and Khoros sets _POSIX_C_SOURCE to 199309L the system feature set should not change as new features are added and so nothing greater than 199009L will show up. If FreeBSD has extensions from 199309L that Khoros wants to use, setting _POSIX_C_SOURCE "in the future" will hide them. This problem goes away when _POSIX_VERSION bumps to 199390L. Clear as mud? Does everyone agree this is correct? What do other systems do? Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 14:12:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24548 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:12:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enigami.com (enigami.com [208.140.182.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24453 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ckempf@enigami.com) Received: from [208.140.182.45] (symphony.enigami.com [208.140.182.45]) by enigami.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07756; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:10:53 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: ckempfm@enigami.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803271550.IAA29107@mt.sri.com> References: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> <4914.890976564@time.cdrom.com> <19980327094710.25740@deepo.prosa.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:51:06 -0500 To: Nate Williams From: Cory Kempf Subject: Re: APM: Too tired to keep working?! Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> I have a DK440LX m'board. It has power management stuffs. So I though I >> would give it a try, thinking, when the machine isn't doing anything, it >> doesn't need to keep heating my office. >> >> I started a make world last night, 'round 1 AM -- 9 hours ago. I was >> rather surprized to note that it is still going. It doesn't usually take >> this long. >> >> >From looking about, it seems the machine was sleeping on the job. >> >> Is this normal behaviour? If so, I don't think it is correct. I expected >> the system to finish the build, *THEN* fall asleep. > >APM only tells the system to fall asleep when you tell it to. Uh, my system seems to disagree. I did an apmconf -e to enable it, and it did the rest. When I moved the mouse, the screen woke up, the disk started rattling, and the compile picked up and continued. It did this three times, before I used apmconf -d to disable it (at least until the build finished). +C -- Thinking of purchasing RAM from the Chip Merchant? Please read this first: Cory Kempf Macintosh / Unix Consulting & Software Development ckempf@enigami.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 14:15:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26076 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:15:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25964 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:14:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06525; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:14:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA00564; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:14:44 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:14:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199803272214.PAA00564@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Cory Kempf Cc: Nate Williams , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM: Too tired to keep working?! In-Reply-To: References: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> <4914.890976564@time.cdrom.com> <19980327094710.25740@deepo.prosa.dk> <199803271550.IAA29107@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >> >From looking about, it seems the machine was sleeping on the job. > >> > >> Is this normal behaviour? If so, I don't think it is correct. I expected > >> the system to finish the build, *THEN* fall asleep. > > > >APM only tells the system to fall asleep when you tell it to. > > Uh, my system seems to disagree. Then your system is configured to fall asleep. Your configuration needs to be tweaked in the BIOS. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 14:22:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29907 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29874 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:22:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05169; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:21:26 +0100 (CET) To: Cory Kempf cc: Nate Williams , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM: Too tired to keep working?! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:51:06 EST." Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:21:26 +0100 Message-ID: <5167.891037286@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Cory Kempf writes: >>> I have a DK440LX m'board. It has power management stuffs. So I though I >>> would give it a try, thinking, when the machine isn't doing anything, it >>> doesn't need to keep heating my office. >>> >>> I started a make world last night, 'round 1 AM -- 9 hours ago. I was >>> rather surprized to note that it is still going. It doesn't usually take >>> this long. >>> >>> >From looking about, it seems the machine was sleeping on the job. >>> >>> Is this normal behaviour? If so, I don't think it is correct. I expected >>> the system to finish the build, *THEN* fall asleep. >> >>APM only tells the system to fall asleep when you tell it to. > >Uh, my system seems to disagree. > >I did an apmconf -e to enable it, and it did the rest. When I moved the >mouse, the screen woke up, the disk started rattling, and the compile >picked up and continued. The parameters are set in your bios, check the "APM" page in your BIOS-setup. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 14:47:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05393 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:47:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from solaris.matti.ee (root@solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05369 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:47:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from localhost (vallo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with SMTP id AAA01037; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 00:46:09 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 00:46:07 +0200 (EET) From: Vallo Kallaste X-Sender: vallo@solaris To: Wm Brian McCane cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3rd IDE controller In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Wm Brian McCane wrote: > Just a quick question. Is it possible to support a third IDE controller > in -current? I have an SB card which will run 2 IDE CD-ROM on it. As I > remember, this thing is set up to use a different address/IRQ than the > primary/secondary PCI IDE controllers. *** Check -stable, -questions and -current mailing lists archives. There was discussion about this problem some time ago but I can't remember in which list. Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 14:53:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06801 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:53:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06775 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:53:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29589; Fri, 27 Mar 98 17:52:36 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA25277; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:51:59 -0500 Message-Id: <19980327175159.59843@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:51:59 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Wm Brian McCane , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3rd IDE controller Mail-Followup-To: Wm Brian McCane , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Wm Brian McCane on Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 02:58:47PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wm Brian McCane: |Just a quick question. Is it possible to support a third IDE controller |in -current? I have an SB card which will run 2 IDE CD-ROM on it. As I |remember, this thing is set up to use a different address/IRQ than the |primary/secondary PCI IDE controllers. With a mod, yes it works. I'm running an old 3.0 SNAP from December, and had to add: #define IO_WD3 0x1e8 #define IO_WD4 0x168 to sys/i386/isa/isa.h. I see my PR kern/5627 hasn't gone through yet, so you'll need to do the same. After that, your kernel should build and work just fine using: controller wdc2 at isa? port "IO_WD3" bio irq 11 flags 0xa0ffa004 vector wdintr disk wd4 at wdc2 drive 0 Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 15:00:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08367 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:00:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [207.170.17.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08335 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:00:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05037; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:00:36 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id RAA07451; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:00:04 -0600 Message-ID: <19980327170004.64440@right.PCS> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:00:04 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Cory Kempf Cc: Nate Williams , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM: Too tired to keep working?! References: <199803270543.QAA01710@cimlogic.com.au> <4914.890976564@time.cdrom.com> <19980327094710.25740@deepo.prosa.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Cory Kempf on Mar 03, 1998 at 04:51:06PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mar 03, 1998 at 04:51:06PM -0500, Cory Kempf wrote: > >> I have a DK440LX m'board. It has power management stuffs. So I though I > >> would give it a try, thinking, when the machine isn't doing anything, it > >> doesn't need to keep heating my office. > >> > >> I started a make world last night, 'round 1 AM -- 9 hours ago. I was > >> rather surprized to note that it is still going. It doesn't usually take > >> this long. > >> > >> >From looking about, it seems the machine was sleeping on the job. > >> > >> Is this normal behaviour? If so, I don't think it is correct. I expected > >> the system to finish the build, *THEN* fall asleep. > > > >APM only tells the system to fall asleep when you tell it to. > > Uh, my system seems to disagree. > > I did an apmconf -e to enable it, and it did the rest. When I moved the > mouse, the screen woke up, the disk started rattling, and the compile > picked up and continued. > > It did this three times, before I used apmconf -d to disable it (at least > until the build finished). If you want to try another build, go into i386/apm/apm.c, and enable the OPMEV_DEBUGMESSAGE macros in apm_processevent. It is possible that your APM subsystem is generating suspend messages, thus causing your system to fall asleep. The macros should show what the message is about. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 16:49:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28349 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:49:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28335 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:49:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@fasterix.frmug.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.2/nospam) with UUCP id BAA06339; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:48:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pb@fasterix.frmug.org) Received: (from pb@localhost) by fasterix.frmug.org (8.8.8/8.8.5/pb-19970302) id BAA23603; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:46:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19980328014653.FL01488@@> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:46:53 +0100 From: pb@fasterix.freenix.org (Pierre Beyssac) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, mark@grondar.za Subject: Thanks for a working CTM X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CTM src-cur is working again, many many thanks to all past and current CTM maintainers, and specially Chuck and Mark, from us grateful users ! -- Pierre Beyssac pb@fasterix.frmug.org pb@fasterix.freenix.org {Free,Net,Open}BSD, Linux : il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 17:35:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04487 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:35:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04473 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:35:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06342; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:33:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:33:34 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Pierre Beyssac cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, mark@grondar.za Subject: Re: Thanks for a working CTM In-Reply-To: <19980328014653.FL01488@@> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Pierre Beyssac wrote: > CTM src-cur is working again, many many thanks to all past and > current CTM maintainers, and specially Chuck and Mark, from us > grateful users ! Mark did it, all I did was root around until I found out that Mark was doing it already. Thanks, Mark! > -- > Pierre Beyssac pb@fasterix.frmug.org pb@fasterix.freenix.org > {Free,Net,Open}BSD, Linux : il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 17:58:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08645 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:58:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08639 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:58:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (user4.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29646; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:56:27 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <19980328014653.FL01488@@> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:49:07 -0600 To: Chuck Robey From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: Thanks for a working CTM Cc: Pierre Beyssac , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, mark@grondar.za Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:33 PM -0600 3/27/98, Chuck Robey wrote: >On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Pierre Beyssac wrote: > >> CTM src-cur is working again, many many thanks to all past and >> current CTM maintainers, and specially Chuck and Mark, from us >> grateful users ! > >Mark did it, all I did was root around until I found out that Mark was >doing it already. Thanks, Mark! Sorry to burst your bubble. Mark has not yet replied to my e-mail. Richard Wackerbarth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 18:08:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10649 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:08:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10644 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:08:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06482; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:06:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:06:24 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Richard Wackerbarth cc: Pierre Beyssac , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, mark@grondar.za Subject: Re: Thanks for a working CTM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > At 7:33 PM -0600 3/27/98, Chuck Robey wrote: > >On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Pierre Beyssac wrote: > > > >> CTM src-cur is working again, many many thanks to all past and > >> current CTM maintainers, and specially Chuck and Mark, from us > >> grateful users ! > > > >Mark did it, all I did was root around until I found out that Mark was > >doing it already. Thanks, Mark! > > Sorry to burst your bubble. Mark has not yet replied to my e-mail. Read above, and note that the following 2 files: -rw-r--r-- 1 1 ftp-Free 107833 Mar 27 07:35 src-cur.3301.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 1 ftp-Free 1250 Mar 27 18:04 src-cur.3302.gz were not on wcarchive yesterday. Pierre might not have given the credit correctly (Mark maybe can tell us) but ctm of src-cur IS working again. > > Richard Wackerbarth > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 21:33:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03138 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:33:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from igor.haunt.com (igor.haunt.com [204.134.9.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03093 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:33:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@igor.haunt.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by igor.haunt.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29296; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:32:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from steve) From: Steven Jorgensen Message-Id: <199803280532.WAA29296@igor.haunt.com> Subject: Re: Posix level? In-Reply-To: <199803272102.QAA24520@hda.hda.com> from Peter Dufault at "Mar 27, 98 04:01:59 pm" To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:32:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Dufault wrote >> > Just recently, March 8th accoring to the rcsid, a >> > file _posix.h was added to the current tree to setup >> > proper defines for your current POSIX level. >> > >> > In this file, I noticed that the value of _POSIX_VERSION >> > is set to 199009L which is the value set for the version >> > of POSIX defined in 1990. Is this correct? It seems >> > like a pretty old version of the standard to be compliant >> > to. >> >> Yes, that is the version FreeBSD is compliant to. If you wait another >> day you can set it to 199309L in /etc/make.conf with some degree >> of honesty because the feature test macros and sysconf variables are present Ahh. >> >> > Anyway, the reason I am mailing is that I'm trying to port >> > the next version of Advanced Khoros to FreeBSD current. >> > I maintain the Khoros port to FreeBSD because I don't like >> > linux, and I work from home fairly often. ^:) Anyway, the >> > next version is in beta testing and I'm trying to port it >> > to current, and the following code in _posix.h is preventing >> > me from getting anywhere on it. In the new version, we've >> > upgraded our compliance to 199309L, so #if evaluates to >> > true causing it to error out before even trying to compile: >> > >> > /* I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this, but at least initially >> > * it may catch some teething problems: >> > */ >> > >> > #if defined(_POSIX_C_SOURCE) && (_POSIX_C_SOURCE > _POSIX_VERSION) >> > #error _POSIX_C_SOURCE > _POSIX_VERSION >> > #endif >> > >> > The comment above the #if, even indicates that it may >> > not be legal to error out there. We can handle any >> > parts of POSIX 199309L not supported by FreeBSD current >> > by working around them (we do work fine under 2.x) , but >> > only it if allows our compiles to continue. >> > >> > Is this really the way the _posix.h file should work? >> >> I did this to catch when I screwed up my testing because I set >> _POSIX_VERSION to 199309L and rebuild the tree, and wanted to >> catch when I was doing what I didn't mean to. Ok, I was hoping it was something like that. :^) >> >> I have this taken out in the patches I'm committing, but >> this means you're specifying an interface (_POSIX_C_SOURCE 199309L) >> that you know the system doesn't support (_POSIX_VERSION 199009L). >> Shouldn't Khoros limit _POSIX_C_SOURCE to at most _POSIX_VERSION? Yes, it is likely we should be limiting this, but we are still trying to figure out how to best update our level and still have it work on all the different Unix OS's we currently support. Also, I'm not completely familiar with this work, as I maintain the port to FreeBSD on my own time, mostly so I can easily work from home when I need to. :^) >> >> For now kill that "#error" off locally and watch for the commits. Will do, thanks for the quick response. Steve -- --------------------------------------------------------- Steven Jorgensen steve@haunt.com --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 23:43:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16152 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16147 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:43:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (zLF8YdVC7bnYJFM9RqjaorbYvY2hINgF@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06595; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:43:37 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (+1GnkYurhZsSnc7XvSg/pg3jGf12+iko@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18412; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:43:36 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803280743.JAA18412@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pb@fasterix.freenix.org (Pierre Beyssac) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, chuckr@glue.umd.edu Subject: Re: Thanks for a working CTM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:43:36 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > CTM src-cur is working again, many many thanks to all past and > current CTM maintainers, and specially Chuck and Mark, from us > grateful users ! Don't thank me yet. I haven't taken over yet. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 23:44:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16330 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:44:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16314 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:44:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (HTnBeD/pgPiswwBTccdRizu9G8WvBSVW@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06602; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:44:30 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (BoVdQKbk/PlGWJoYoXFgmxB6Jehl0nwn@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18432; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:44:29 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803280744.JAA18432@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Chuck Robey cc: Pierre Beyssac , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Thanks for a working CTM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:44:29 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck Robey wrote: > Mark did it, all I did was root around until I found out that Mark was > doing it already. Thanks, Mark! Not I. I haven't started yet :-). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 27 23:52:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17784 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:52:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17753 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:52:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00477; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:51:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199803280751.CAA00477@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: aio not working in FreeBSD 3.0-971208-SNAP In-Reply-To: <199802091523.KAA26931@dwarpal.in.oracle.com> from "HARAWAT.IN.ORACLE.COM" at "Feb 9, 98 06:04:47 pm" To: HARAWAT.IN.oracle.com.ofcmail@in.oracle.com (HARAWAT.IN.ORACLE.COM) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:51:21 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HARAWAT.IN.ORACLE.COM said: > After registering the aio_read fn, SIGIO signal is generated but the > aiocntl_blk->_aiocb_private.status is -1,and aiocntl_blk->_aiocb_private.errno > is EINPROGRESS, aslo the values is the buffer shows the contents that were to > be read, probably the user space values of status and errno fields of the > aiocb_t are not updated. > The code looks okay... Are you accessing the private members of the local data structures? The correct way is to use aio_error. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 04:05:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09250 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:05:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09216 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:05:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA28124 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 07:04:10 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199803281204.HAA28124@hda.hda.com> Subject: _POSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING Linux system calls committed not tested To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 07:04:09 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The _POSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING Linux system calls committed are not tested under the Linuxulator. A Linux binary that doesn't check the sysconf variables for the run-time configuration will error out with "operation not supported". OOPS, and now that I think about it, I didn't make my sysconf manifest constants match Linuxes or even check to see how we support that. If anyone uses the Linux emulator and has a binary that uses these, build your kernel with P1003_1B and _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING and see what happens. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 06:14:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19510 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 06:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ache.relcom.ru (ache@ache.relcom.ru [193.125.20.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19500; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 06:14:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@ache.relcom.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.relcom.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00404; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:13:28 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Message-ID: <19980328171328.26485@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:13:28 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: bde@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gcc in -current still broken Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org, bde@freebsd.org, jdp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, after short discussion answering that we use att/linux assembler generation now and not commited assembler patch I see no commit reactions to fix -current gcc. The questions remains: Do we need to return to old assembler generation model or moving to new one is intentional action? If we switch to new model, is assembler patch only thing that affected? I.e. other areas needs to be checked. If we return to old model, gcc itself must be fixed. Please not leave gcc broken in -current. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 07:01:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24109 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 07:01:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24097; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA02302; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:58:52 +1100 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:58:52 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803281458.BAA02302@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken Cc: bde@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Do we need to return to old assembler generation model or moving to new >one is intentional action? If we switch to new model, is assembler patch I think John's patch for `as' is sufficient, but haven't checked. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 08:08:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04311 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:08:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04302; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09302; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:08:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199803281608.IAA09302@austin.polstra.com> To: Bruce Evans cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, bde@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:58:52 +1100." <199803281458.BAA02302@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:08:25 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I think John's patch for `as' is sufficient, but haven't checked. I think so too. But I don't want to commit it until (a) somebody has reviewed it, and (b) somebody has done a make world with it and verified that things still seem to work after that. As I mentioned before, I am not able to do that test myself right now, because my -current system is temporarily spammed for a paywork job. The assembler is too critical of a component to make untested commits. If I broke it badly enough, it would be impossible for people to recover except by a full reinstall. As soon as I'm satisfied that the patch has been reviewed and tested adequately, I'll be happy to commit it. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 09:15:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09535 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09530 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09664 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:15:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199803281715.JAA09664@austin.polstra.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken In-Reply-To: <199803281608.IAA09302@austin.polstra.com> References: <199803281608.IAA09302@austin.polstra.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:15:02 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: > > I think John's patch for `as' is sufficient, but haven't checked. > > I think so too. But I don't want to commit it until (a) somebody > has reviewed it, and (b) somebody has done a make world with it and > verified that things still seem to work after that. By the way, anybody who can do a make world can do step (b). I think the most thorough test would be to apply the patch, build and install the assembler, and then do the make world. That way, everything will be built using the new assembler. Then, build a few programs and make sure they work. Try some floating point tests. You get the idea. Waiting by the phone, :-) John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 09:26:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10716 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:26:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10705 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:26:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (PmaOaeHuArx3pla3Z9hdSHJtLoxhTle4@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07339; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:26:08 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (VhHcqH5yYny0X2RVDt+yxyxvpDw1Ts1i@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05632; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:26:02 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803281726.TAA05632@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: John Polstra cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:26:01 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > Waiting by the phone, :-) ZA is a bit far for the phone, but bounce the patch in my direction, and I'll add it to tomorrow's make world. ;-) M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 09:28:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10999 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:28:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10992 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:28:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09770; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:28:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199803281728.JAA09770@austin.polstra.com> To: bford@uop.cs.uop.edu Subject: Re: make buildworld failure In-Reply-To: <000101bd59bd$cfc92980$0100000a@heather.my.domain> References: <000101bd59bd$cfc92980$0100000a@heather.my.domain> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:28:02 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <000101bd59bd$cfc92980$0100000a@heather.my.domain>, Bret Ford wrote: > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/att.h:1: > parse error at null character > *** Error code 1 It sounds very much like this file is corrupted on your system. I checked on the master repository, and it's OK there. Remove the file and get a fresh copy of it. That should fix the problem. I'd be a bit wary of my filesystems, if I were you. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 09:31:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11922 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11896 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:31:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09825; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:30:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199803281730.JAA09825@austin.polstra.com> To: Mark Murray cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:26:01 +0200." <199803281726.TAA05632@greenpeace.grondar.za> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:30:54 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ZA is a bit far for the phone, but bounce the patch in my direction, > and I'll add it to tomorrow's make world. ;-) Thanks! John Index: i386.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/as/opcode/i386.h,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 i386.h --- i386.h 1997/07/15 07:56:53 1.8 +++ i386.h 1998/03/26 13:15:44 @@ -472,6 +472,7 @@ {"fldl", 1, 0xdd, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem double */ {"fldl", 1, 0xd9c0, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ {"filds", 1, 0xdf, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem dword */ +{"fildll", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ {"fildq", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ {"fldt", 1, 0xdb, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem efloat */ {"fbld", 1, 0xdf, 4, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem bcd */ @@ -491,6 +492,7 @@ {"fstpl", 1, 0xdd, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem double */ {"fstpl", 1, 0xddd8, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ {"fistps", 1, 0xdf, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem dword */ +{"fistpll", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ {"fistpq", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ {"fstpt", 1, 0xdb, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem efloat */ {"fbstp", 1, 0xdf, 6, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem bcd */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 09:36:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12771 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:36:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12763 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA02353; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:36:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@mantar.slip.netcom.com) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:36:48 -0800 (PST) From: Manfred Antar To: Karl Denninger cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: panic ufs_dirbad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Manfred Antar wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:32:45PM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 05:21:47PM -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What is the extract date on the sources in your kernel? > > > > > > > > > > > March 24 6 p.m. pacific > > > > > Today: > > > > > I just did a make world today without having /usr/obj on a seperate > > > > > partition. I rebooted and did fsck on /usr , no problems. > > > > > For the past couple of days I have been doing make world's with > > > > > /usr/obj on it's own partition (same disk) some complete some lock up. > > > > > but every time /usr/obj is corupted with bad dirs (usually just one). > > > > > I'm wondering if I have a bad disk, it's a brand new quantum Atlas 4.3 > > > > > gig ? > > > > > > > > > > Manfred > > > > > > > > Hmmmm... did you used to have a kernel on that machine from the "bad" time? > > > > > > > Yes > > > It got so bad that I had to low level format it. Then restore off of tape > > > from Mar 10. The tape I used was from another disk a 4.1 gig seagate. > > > Manfred > > > > Well, I'm seeing the "tulip" panic and one in some of the ffs routines with > > a current kernel from today right now. > > > I have a cvs tree on another disk I think I'll build a kernel from the > 12th and see what happens. > Manfred > > I think my problems might be controller related. I was using a DPT 2124 caching raid (no raid) controller when I had these problems. I swithched back to a Adaptec 2940 and no more bad_dir. This is after a current make world with a current kernel. Without fail i would get bad_dir with the DPT. (/root)537}fsck /dev/sd0s1g ** /dev/rsd0s1g ** Last Mounted on /usr/obj ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 14660 files, 146387 used, 52208 free (128 frags, 6510 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) Manfred ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 11:43:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25328 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from limbo.rtfm.net (nathan@rtfm.net [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25277 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:43:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nathan@limbo.rtfm.net) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.rtfm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13965; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:42:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980328144258.52955@rtfm.net> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:42:58 -0500 From: Nathan Dorfman To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kernel won't link Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gads, I made world for nothing :( kernel won't link: loading kernel init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_setparam' referenced from data segment init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_getparam' referenced from data segment init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_setscheduler' referenced from data segment init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_getscheduler' referenced from data segment init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_yield' referenced from data segment init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_get_priority_max' referenced from data segment init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_get_priority_min' referenced from data segment init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_rr_get_interval' referenced from data segment *** Error code 1 Stop. -- ________________ _______________________________ / Nathan Dorfman V PGP: finger nathan@rtfm.net / / nathan@rtfm.net | http://www.rtfm.net / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 12:10:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29456 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:10:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29415 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:10:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (KvIdySvOQ3lxKWsp9KzMdf/ypXqJLckA@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07606 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:10:08 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (hkthgL1hsE9BsSqq1qW2O0y29XvG79tg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07410 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:09:50 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803282009.WAA07410@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: VX driver in current acting up? Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:09:18 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have been getting funny behaviour from the VX driver (I have a 3com 3c900). Occaisionally (randomly) the card/driver goes into "slow mode", and gives ridiculously slow respose on my local ethernet: PING gratis.grondar.za (196.7.18.133): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=989.080 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=980.119 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=970.066 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=960.154 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=950.969 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=940.152 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=930.114 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=920.143 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=8 ttl=255 time=910.234 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=9 ttl=255 time=900.115 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=10 ttl=255 time=890.098 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=11 ttl=255 time=880.065 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=12 ttl=255 time=870.060 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=13 ttl=255 time=860.088 ms 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=14 ttl=255 time=850.742 ms Notice how the times slowly improve by 10ms per echo? Strange. Does anyone else see this? At work we have a machine running this card and this driver(?) under RELENG_2_2 (STABLE) and there are no problems. The only fix I know of is a reboot. (ifconfig vx0 up; ifconfig vx0 down does not work). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 12:24:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01630 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:24:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01624 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:24:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (LuTzORvHnnY1Nbc9/a3fsZ1HGH09IR/v@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07638; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:24:32 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (R1DyJAqFxkrvAcTwNtll8C5FNq/yF7fS@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00378; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:24:26 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803282024.WAA00378@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nathan Dorfman cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel won't link Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:24:26 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got this too. I fixed it by adding the new POSIX stuff (look in LINT). I recognise that my fix is a workaround - I just needed the kernel in a hurry. This stuff should realy be #ifdeffed, methinks. M Nathan Dorfman wrote: > Gads, I made world for nothing :( kernel won't link: > > > loading kernel > init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_setparam' referenced from data segment M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 12:48:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03526 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:48:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mynet.ml.org (pc-19628.on.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.74.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03521 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:48:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ihuang@mynet.ml.org) Received: from localhost (ihuang@localhost) by mynet.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA00483; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:36:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:36:47 -0500 (EST) From: Ian Huang To: Mark Murray cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VX driver in current acting up? In-Reply-To: <199803282009.WAA07410@greenpeace.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm having the similar problem with my 3c905 on a 2.2.6-STABLE box. The outgoing transfer is having no problem (~1MB/sec) but the incoming connection is extremely slow at ~200K/sec. I'll pop in a SMC ethernet card and see if the connection improves. On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Mark Murray wrote: > Hi > > I have been getting funny behaviour from the VX driver (I have a > 3com 3c900). > > Occaisionally (randomly) the card/driver goes into "slow mode", and > gives ridiculously slow respose on my local ethernet: > > PING gratis.grondar.za (196.7.18.133): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=989.080 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=980.119 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=970.066 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=960.154 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=950.969 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=940.152 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=930.114 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=920.143 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=8 ttl=255 time=910.234 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=9 ttl=255 time=900.115 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=10 ttl=255 time=890.098 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=11 ttl=255 time=880.065 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=12 ttl=255 time=870.060 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=13 ttl=255 time=860.088 ms > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=14 ttl=255 time=850.742 ms > > Notice how the times slowly improve by 10ms per echo? Strange. > > Does anyone else see this? At work we have a machine running this > card and this driver(?) under RELENG_2_2 (STABLE) and there are no > problems. > > The only fix I know of is a reboot. (ifconfig vx0 up; ifconfig vx0 down > does not work). > > M > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 13:04:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05311 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:04:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mynet.ml.org (pc-19628.on.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.74.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05306 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:04:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ihuang@mynet.ml.org) Received: from localhost (ihuang@localhost) by mynet.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA00564; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:04:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:04:34 -0500 (EST) From: Ian Huang To: Mark Murray cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VX driver in current acting up? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After replace the 3c905 with a SMC card, both incoming and outgoing connections seemed fine. I guess the vx0 driver is a bit buggy? > Hi, > > I'm having the similar problem with my 3c905 on a 2.2.6-STABLE box. The > outgoing transfer is having no problem (~1MB/sec) but the incoming > connection is extremely slow at ~200K/sec. I'll pop in a SMC ethernet card > and see if the connection improves. > > On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Mark Murray wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I have been getting funny behaviour from the VX driver (I have a > > 3com 3c900). > > > > Occaisionally (randomly) the card/driver goes into "slow mode", and > > gives ridiculously slow respose on my local ethernet: > > > > PING gratis.grondar.za (196.7.18.133): 56 data bytes > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=989.080 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=980.119 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=970.066 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=960.154 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=950.969 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=940.152 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=930.114 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=920.143 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=8 ttl=255 time=910.234 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=9 ttl=255 time=900.115 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=10 ttl=255 time=890.098 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=11 ttl=255 time=880.065 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=12 ttl=255 time=870.060 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=13 ttl=255 time=860.088 ms > > 64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=14 ttl=255 time=850.742 ms > > > > Notice how the times slowly improve by 10ms per echo? Strange. > > > > Does anyone else see this? At work we have a machine running this > > card and this driver(?) under RELENG_2_2 (STABLE) and there are no > > problems. > > > > The only fix I know of is a reboot. (ifconfig vx0 up; ifconfig vx0 down > > does not work). > > > > M > > -- > > Mark Murray > > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 13:16:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07752 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07724 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:16:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25646; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803282115.NAA25646@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Polstra cc: Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:30:54 PST." <199803281730.JAA09825@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:15:49 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I started a "make world" on my test box over here and will post later on today if the patch works or not. My test box or "crash me tenderly" box is a P133 with 32mb it takes about 3 hours to do a make world. Cheers, Amancio > > ZA is a bit far for the phone, but bounce the patch in my direction, > > and I'll add it to tomorrow's make world. ;-) > > Thanks! > > John > > Index: i386.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/as/opcode/i386.h,v > retrieving revision 1.8 > diff -u -r1.8 i386.h > --- i386.h 1997/07/15 07:56:53 1.8 > +++ i386.h 1998/03/26 13:15:44 > @@ -472,6 +472,7 @@ > {"fldl", 1, 0xdd, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem double */ > {"fldl", 1, 0xd9c0, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ > {"filds", 1, 0xdf, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem dword */ > +{"fildll", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ > {"fildq", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ > {"fldt", 1, 0xdb, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem efloat */ > {"fbld", 1, 0xdf, 4, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem bcd */ > @@ -491,6 +492,7 @@ > {"fstpl", 1, 0xdd, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem double */ > {"fstpl", 1, 0xddd8, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ > {"fistps", 1, 0xdf, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem dword */ > +{"fistpll", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ > {"fistpq", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ > {"fstpt", 1, 0xdb, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem efloat */ > {"fbstp", 1, 0xdf, 6, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem bcd */ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 13:26:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09765 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:26:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09760 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:26:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23442; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:25:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803282125.NAA23442@implode.root.com> To: Mark Murray cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VX driver in current acting up? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:09:18 +0200." <199803282009.WAA07410@greenpeace.grondar.za> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:25:46 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I have been getting funny behaviour from the VX driver (I have a >3com 3c900). > >Occaisionally (randomly) the card/driver goes into "slow mode", and >gives ridiculously slow respose on my local ethernet: > >PING gratis.grondar.za (196.7.18.133): 56 data bytes >64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=989.080 ms >64 bytes from 196.7.18.133: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=980.119 ms ... >Notice how the times slowly improve by 10ms per echo? Strange. This happens when FreeBSD doesn't get any more interrupts from the card. There is a one-second watchdog that notices some input and that's the reason for the strange 0 to 1 second RTTs. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 13:35:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11697 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:35:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11683 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:34:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (pimAZnkSVA2QkaGBgZrigfqYscoAP/IX@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07773; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:34:42 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (RAthmT6p1bLi5+Qj/bHTgtmCoo6s0P2N@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02359; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:34:41 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199803282134.XAA02359@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: dg@root.com cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VX driver in current acting up? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:34:40 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Greenman wrote: > This happens when FreeBSD doesn't get any more interrupts from the card. > There is a one-second watchdog that notices some input and that's the reason > for the strange 0 to 1 second RTTs. Hmm. Does this imply broken hardware or a broken driver? Is there an interrupt driver that is never clearing the card's status? I wonder.... M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 13:40:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12928 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:40:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12923 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23551; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:39:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803282139.NAA23551@implode.root.com> To: Mark Murray cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VX driver in current acting up? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:34:40 +0200." <199803282134.XAA02359@greenpeace.grondar.za> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:39:39 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >David Greenman wrote: >> This happens when FreeBSD doesn't get any more interrupts from the card. >> There is a one-second watchdog that notices some input and that's the reason >> for the strange 0 to 1 second RTTs. > >Hmm. Does this imply broken hardware or a broken driver? Is there an >interrupt driver that is never clearing the card's status? > >I wonder.... I'm more inclined to believe that the driver is broken, but it could be either. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 13:58:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14195 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:58:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from limbo.rtfm.net (rtfm.net [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14181 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:58:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nathan@limbo.rtfm.net) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.rtfm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19596; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:52:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980328165204.62437@rtfm.net> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:52:04 -0500 From: Nathan Dorfman To: dg@root.com, Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VX driver in current acting up? References: <199803282134.XAA02359@greenpeace.grondar.za> <199803282139.NAA23551@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199803282139.NAA23551@implode.root.com>; from David Greenman on Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 01:39:39PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 01:39:39PM -0800, David Greenman wrote: > >David Greenman wrote: > >> This happens when FreeBSD doesn't get any more interrupts from the card. > >> There is a one-second watchdog that notices some input and that's the reason > >> for the strange 0 to 1 second RTTs. > > > >Hmm. Does this imply broken hardware or a broken driver? Is there an > >interrupt driver that is never clearing the card's status? > > > >I wonder.... > > I'm more inclined to believe that the driver is broken, but it could be > either. Is it ever going to be fixed? Is there not enough demand? I would fix it if someone would throw me a clue as to how :-) > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- ________________ _______________________________ / Nathan Dorfman V PGP: finger nathan@rtfm.net / / nathan@rtfm.net | http://www.rtfm.net / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 14:17:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15961 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15951 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:17:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29448; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:14:33 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199803282214.RAA29448@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: kernel won't link In-Reply-To: <199803282024.WAA00378@greenpeace.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Mar 28, 98 10:24:26 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:14:32 -0500 (EST) Cc: nathan@rtfm.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I fixed it by adding the new POSIX stuff (look in LINT). I recognise > that my fix is a workaround - I just needed the kernel in a hurry. > > This stuff should realy be #ifdeffed, methinks. Yep, it was supposed to be. I'll fix it. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 14:50:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19030 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [208.220.66.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19025 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dufault@hda.hda.com) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29531; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:47:28 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199803282247.RAA29531@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: kernel won't link In-Reply-To: <19980328144258.52955@rtfm.net> from Nathan Dorfman at "Mar 28, 98 02:42:58 pm" To: nathan@rtfm.net (Nathan Dorfman) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:47:28 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > init_sysent.o: Undefined symbol `_sched_setparam' referenced... Sorry - the stubs for system calls can't be optional! Until the fix propagates add "option P1003_1B" to your config and you will get the stubs. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime development, Machine control, HD Associates, Inc. Safety critical systems, Agency approval To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 15:52:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27470 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:52:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27456; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:52:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28231; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:22:11 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA22055; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:22:11 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980329092210.19096@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:22:10 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: John Polstra , Bruce Evans Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, bde@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken References: <199803281458.BAA02302@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <199803281608.IAA09302@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199803281608.IAA09302@austin.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 08:08:25AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 28 March 1998 at 8:08:25 -0800, John Polstra wrote: > > The assembler is too critical of a component to make untested commits. > If I broke it badly enough, it would be impossible for people to > recover except by a full reinstall. How come? You can keep a copy, or restore it from tape. It's not like a broken libc. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 16:31:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02451 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:31:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02439; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27476; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:31:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803290031.QAA27476@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: java@FreeBSD.ORG cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: JWS 2.0 works in FreeBSD 8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_4606890830" Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:31:09 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_4606890830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii JWS, Sun's Java Workshop Shop -- IDE for Java. NOTE: The debugger does not work due to JWS using a Java Native Interface that means that the distributed JWS uses a binary library for the VM machines to talk to the debugger -- this is from the linux jws patch. You will need 1. the gnu gettext so just go to your favorite gnu ftp site and download it . I forgot where I got mine from. 2. bash 3. jdk1.1.5 4. the linux patch found at: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-Linux/suse_update/JWS2.0/ 5. JWS2.0 --- get it from http://shop.sun.com/ . There is a 30 day evaluation one which you can download and thats what I have over here. Sun is supposed to released in mid April an upgrade JWS2.0 to support JFC 1.1. I modified startup_wrapper and locate_dirs to work in our environment. After untarring the linux patch, copy my startup_wrapper to JWS/intel-S2/bin copy my locate_dirs to JWS/solaris/bin startup_wrapper assumes that JAVA_HOME points to your jdk1.1.5 installation, if not either define JAVA_HOME or edit startup_wrapper. To run JWS, intel-S2/bin/jws That, that, thats folks! 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To: Greg Lehey cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:22:10 +0930." <19980329092210.19096@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:58:15 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The assembler is too critical of a component to make untested > > commits. If I broke it badly enough, it would be impossible for > > people to recover except by a full reinstall. > > How come? You can keep a copy, or restore it from tape. It's not > like a broken libc. But your libc would have been built with the broken assembler. It and everything else you'd just installed could _all_ be broken. It's admittedly unlikely that the bug would be so subtle that you wouldn't notice it in a make world. On the other hand, it's not going to hurt to wait a few more hours until the thing has been tested a little more. People who are in a rush can use the patch, which I've posted twice to -current. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 17:17:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08116 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:17:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08102 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:17:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27779; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:16:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803290116.RAA27779@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Polstra cc: Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:30:54 PST." <199803281730.JAA09825@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:16:51 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Got a freshly rebuild system and kernel up and running with your i386.h patch . If you are interested in me running any tests please let me know. Tnks! Amancio > > ZA is a bit far for the phone, but bounce the patch in my direction, > > and I'll add it to tomorrow's make world. ;-) > > Thanks! > > John > > Index: i386.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/as/opcode/i386.h,v > retrieving revision 1.8 > diff -u -r1.8 i386.h > --- i386.h 1997/07/15 07:56:53 1.8 > +++ i386.h 1998/03/26 13:15:44 > @@ -472,6 +472,7 @@ > {"fldl", 1, 0xdd, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem double */ > {"fldl", 1, 0xd9c0, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ > {"filds", 1, 0xdf, 0, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem dword */ > +{"fildll", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ > {"fildq", 1, 0xdf, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem qword */ > {"fldt", 1, 0xdb, 5, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem efloat */ > {"fbld", 1, 0xdf, 4, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 <-- mem bcd */ > @@ -491,6 +492,7 @@ > {"fstpl", 1, 0xdd, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem double */ > {"fstpl", 1, 0xddd8, _, ShortForm, FloatReg, 0, 0}, /* register */ > {"fistps", 1, 0xdf, 3, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem dword */ > +{"fistpll", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ > {"fistpq", 1, 0xdf, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem qword */ > {"fstpt", 1, 0xdb, 7, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem efloat */ > {"fbstp", 1, 0xdf, 6, Modrm, Mem, 0, 0}, /* %st0 --> mem bcd */ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 17:42:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12907 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:42:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12865 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:42:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12057; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:41:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199803290141.RAA12057@austin.polstra.com> To: "Mike Burgett" , Amancio Hasty , Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc in -current still broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:19:21 PST." <199803290119.RAA03704@dragon.awen.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:41:56 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, guys, thanks for trying out the assembler patch. I've just now committed it. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 18:15:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15634 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:15:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from limbo.rtfm.net (nathan@rtfm.net [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15626 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:15:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nathan@limbo.rtfm.net) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.rtfm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04130; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:15:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980328211526.15755@rtfm.net> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:15:27 -0500 From: Nathan Dorfman To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linux emulation and x11amp (more of an emulator issue now) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This seems to be an error with the linux emulation under FreeBSD, more so than x11amp instead, so I'm going to stop posting to -multimedia. Unless linux_kdump(1) is lying to me, or I am misinterpreting its output, the Linux ipc(2) call is what's failing and causing the segv and coredump: 3340 x11amp CALL linux_ipc(0x17,0,0x2001c,0x780,0) 3340 x11amp RET linux_ipc -1 errno -28 Unknown error: -28 3340 x11amp CALL linux_ipc(0x15,0xffffffff,0,0xefbfd798,0) 3340 x11amp RET linux_ipc -1 errno -22 Unknown error: -22 3340 x11amp CALL linux_ipc(0x18,0xffffffff,0,0,0) 3340 x11amp RET linux_ipc -1 errno -14 Unknown error: -14 3340 x11amp PSIG SIGSEGV SIG_DFL 3340 x11amp NAMI "x11amp.core" Is it supposed to be setting errno to wack-o values like that? However, modunload -n linux_mod followed by linux again will not make x11amp stop SIGSEGVing, only a reboot seems to work in this case. i386/linux/linux_ipc.c doesn't help me a bit :-( -- ________________ _______________________________ / Nathan Dorfman V PGP: finger nathan@rtfm.net / / nathan@rtfm.net | http://www.rtfm.net / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 18:29:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16876 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:29:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16870 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28075; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:29:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803290229.SAA28075@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nathan Dorfman cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux emulation and x11amp (more of an emulator issue now) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:15:27 EST." <19980328211526.15755@rtfm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:29:14 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let me clarify here a little. Traditionally the -current nor the hacker's mailing lists gives a rat ass care about supporting multimedia applications . 99.99 percent of the time we are on our own, hence my request to contain issues with respect to multimedia applications to the multimedia mailing list. You are welcome to post to -current or to hackers 8) Amancio > This seems to be an error with the linux emulation under FreeBSD, more > so than x11amp instead, so I'm going to stop posting to -multimedia. > > Unless linux_kdump(1) is lying to me, or I am misinterpreting its output, > the Linux ipc(2) call is what's failing and causing the segv and coredump: > > 3340 x11amp CALL linux_ipc(0x17,0,0x2001c,0x780,0) > 3340 x11amp RET linux_ipc -1 errno -28 Unknown error: -28 > 3340 x11amp CALL linux_ipc(0x15,0xffffffff,0,0xefbfd798,0) > 3340 x11amp RET linux_ipc -1 errno -22 Unknown error: -22 > 3340 x11amp CALL linux_ipc(0x18,0xffffffff,0,0,0) > 3340 x11amp RET linux_ipc -1 errno -14 Unknown error: -14 > 3340 x11amp PSIG SIGSEGV SIG_DFL > 3340 x11amp NAMI "x11amp.core" > > Is it supposed to be setting errno to wack-o values like that? However, > modunload -n linux_mod followed by linux again will not make x11amp > stop SIGSEGVing, only a reboot seems to work in this case. > > i386/linux/linux_ipc.c doesn't help me a bit :-( > -- > ________________ _______________________________ > / Nathan Dorfman V PGP: finger nathan@rtfm.net / > / nathan@rtfm.net | http://www.rtfm.net / > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 21:29:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02417 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02410 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:29:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24189; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:27:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199803290527.AAA24189@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Linux emulation and x11amp (more of an emulator issue now) In-Reply-To: <199803290229.SAA28075@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Mar 28, 98 06:29:14 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:27:47 -0500 (EST) Cc: nathan@rtfm.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Amancio Hasty said: > > Let me clarify here a little. > > Traditionally the -current nor the hacker's mailing lists gives a rat ass > care about supporting multimedia applications . 99.99 percent of the > time we are on our own, hence my request to contain issues with respect to > multimedia applications to the multimedia mailing list. > > You are welcome to post to -current or to hackers 8) > I tend to agree that the multimedia lists are more responsive to multimedia problems, and frankly it allows people to have a bit more filtering on both sides. For example, an ISP might not be too interested in sound drivers, while multimedia people might not be interested in certain NFS developments. Actually, in my case, I am very interested in multimedia, but don't have alot of time to work on those items. I think that it is great that we have a multimedia list where such activities can be focused. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 22:13:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06554 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06546; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:13:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29971; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:11:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803290611.WAA29971@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG cc: nathan@rtfm.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux emulation and x11amp (more of an emulator issue now) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:27:47 EST." <199803290527.AAA24189@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:11:43 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tnks John. Basically, also I see the multimedia mailing list acting as a place to hash out issues which affect multimedia applications then after we have exhausted all possible avenues should we post to hackers or current with a clear explanation of the problem. The problem statement should be clear and if possible clearly place the burden of the problem in hacker land and if you can do so there is no need to mention that it affects your multimedia application . This is because we traditionally solve our own problems so in many instances the problem statement gets ignore in current : No need to worry for about their little singing app working , they will find a work around or who knows maybe they will even fix a kernel bug 8) Trust me it is nice the current way that is working. Regards, Amancio > Amancio Hasty said: > > > > Let me clarify here a little. > > > > Traditionally the -current nor the hacker's mailing lists gives a rat ass > > care about supporting multimedia applications . 99.99 percent of the > > time we are on our own, hence my request to contain issues with respect to > > multimedia applications to the multimedia mailing list. > > > > You are welcome to post to -current or to hackers 8) > > > I tend to agree that the multimedia lists are more responsive to > multimedia problems, and frankly it allows people to have a bit more > filtering on both sides. For example, an ISP might not be too interested > in sound drivers, while multimedia people might not be interested in > certain NFS developments. > > Actually, in my case, I am very interested in multimedia, but don't have > alot of time to work on those items. I think that it is great that we > have a multimedia list where such activities can be focused. > > -- > John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, > dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, > jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 28 22:26:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08291 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:26:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08286 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:26:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01177; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:24:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803290624.WAA01177@implode.root.com> To: Nathan Dorfman cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VX driver in current acting up? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:52:04 EST." <19980328165204.62437@rtfm.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:24:04 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> I'm more inclined to believe that the driver is broken, but it could be >> either. > >Is it ever going to be fixed? Is there not enough demand? I would fix >it if someone would throw me a clue as to how :-) Someone mentioned recently that they were working on a rewrite that will use the advanced (e.g. DMA) features, so perhaps the new version will fix the problems of the current driver. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message