From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 00:35:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12883 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12860 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA14753 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:39:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:39:28 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Draft manpages available for review Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [I'm resending this since Usenix is over and I am back from holiday] I have written a set of manpages for my new driver framework for FreeBSD. If anyone is interested in reviewing them, you can find them at: http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/man9.diff Just apply the diff to src/share/man/man9 and type make install. In particular, if someone could check my clueless use of the mandoc macros and perhaps improve on it, I would be grateful. Other areas where I expect to have made mistakes are in spelling, grammar, missing links, manpages and links not installed from the Makefile etc. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 02:49:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25547 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:49:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25542 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spadger@best.com) Received: from best.com (dynamic25.pm02.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.89]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with ESMTP id CAA13456; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3596114C.F7A3904E@best.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:47:56 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Organization: Not likely. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Hermit Hacker CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R ... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Morning... > > I went splits with a friend on a CD-R awhile back, and because > FreeBSD, at that time, had no writing capabilities, we installed it on his > Win95 machine... > > Now, I'm seeing that we have stuff like cd-write and cdrecord > available, but fear our CD-R is supported...but I figured I'd just check > before I returned it, just in case its something that I haven't done. > > Basically, dmesg comes up as: > > cd0 at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 > cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 > > Has anyone succeeded in getting that model working? Is there > something that I have to do (enable in the kernel?) to get this to work? Not for cdrecord, as it uses a link to the .ctl device node of either the worm or cd device. The worm driver won't recognise anything that doesn't identify itself as a WORM device or appear in it's internal list of known devices... I could never get cd-write to work anyway, it always errored during fixating with a CDD2000. However, I've burnt 100's of CDs with cdrecord on various drives, so my particular bias should be obvious. Works For Me (tm) on 2.2.5, 2.2.6 and -stable. Haven't tried it with-current yet, although I've been meaning to for a while. There were some problem reports with that combination a while back. You may find my web page (wittily entitled "So, you want to burn your own CDs under FreeBSD?") useful, as it details various things that don't seem to be addressed in the port and are misleading (outdated) in the README.xxxBSD file, as well as some info about the worm driver. Here's the URL: http://www.best.com/~spadger/CDR-main.html The CDR drive compatibility list at the cdrecord home page (http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/index.html#cdrecord) shows that the Yamaha CRW-2260 is a supported device. It should Just Work once you've set up the links to the devices... Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 02:54:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26617 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:54:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from a486n1.znh.org (dialup2.gaffaneys.com [208.155.161.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26605 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zach@gaffaneys.com) Received: (from zach@localhost) by a486n1.znh.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01505; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:54:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19980628045453.B650@znh.org.> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:54:53 -0500 From: Zach Heilig To: Mike Smith , boia01@gel.usherb.ca Cc: Zach Heilig , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppbus is broken. References: <199806272229.PAA15913@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806272229.PAA15913@antipodes.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 03:29:55PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BTW, I just tried this again (with a fairly recent [june 25] kernel). relevant kernel config lines: controller ppbus0 device nlpt0 at ppbus? controller ppc0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector ppcintr detected as: ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset in EPP mode (EPP 1.9) nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port I can't say for sure that it is fixed, but at least one pdf that used get hosed comes out properly. -- Zach Heilig -- zach@gaffaneys.com Real Programs don't use shared text. Otherwise, how can they use functions for scratch space after they are finished calling them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 03:34:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01420 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 03:34:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vampire.sung.org (ip-69-151.obt.primenet.com [207.218.69.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01363 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 03:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwsung@Sung.org) Received: from win95.Sung.org (win95.sung.org [90.0.0.1]) by vampire.sung.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA01784 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 03:33:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwsung@Sung.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 03:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Christian W. Sung & Associates From: Christian Sung To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ImageMagik-4.0.7 -- Broken? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While trying to compile 'apsfilter', ran into this cute little issue with ImageM agik-4.0.7. We seem to be missing: a) a symbol definition b) a library c) an include path d) none of the above or.... 8-( >. >. >. Making all in xlib cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./magick -I./magick -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/loc al/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O -pipe -c animate.c /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -o animate animate.o magick/libMagic k.la -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg -lpng -lttf -lz -lm mkdir .libs LD_LIBRARY_PATH="magick/.libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" cc -O -pipe -o .libs/animate ani mate.o -R/usr/local/lib -lMagick -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg -lpng -lttf -lz -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg -lpng -lttf -lz -lm animate.o: Undefined symbol `_SetClientName' referenced from text segment animate.o: Undefined symbol `_XGetScreenDensity' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. >. >. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Christian Sung Date: 28-Jun-98 Time: 03:23:39 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 04:23:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09178 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09120 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id MAA02002; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:20:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:12:27 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3595916B.D253EB3B@camtech.net.au> References: <199806270339.UAA19025@usr04.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:19:20 +0100 To: Matthew Thyer From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) Cc: Terry Lambert , FreeBSD CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:12 am +0930 28/6/98, Matthew Thyer wrote: >Except it doesn't do what it should. > >A Win95/Win98 restart to MSDOS restarts the computer in DOS mode >but doesn't restores all vectors. > >Why Microsoft would want to do this I dont know. To make it more difficult to boot other OSs? No, can't be... Never ascribe to malice anything that can be explained by incompetence. -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 04:58:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12046 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com (oWdyEmRNkmenMxaz1D7STOS5kJdNg+Iv@brane.digs.iafrica.com [196.7.162.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11966 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iang@digs.iafrica.com) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com ([196.7.162.25] ident=[fHoccDIHwodknq5RZPZZANFqcphvvndr]) by brane.digs.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0yqG5B-0000zM-00; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:57:21 +0200 To: Ozz!!! cc: FreeBSD-current mail-list Subject: Re: 3.0-980520-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 May 1998 17:50:33 +0400." X-Attribution: BOFH Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:57:21 +0200 From: Ian Freislich Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ozz!!! wrote: > > Hi! > Today I upgrade my 3.0-SNAP to 3.0-980520-SNAP... > After reboot: > > # uname -a > FreeBSD ..... 3.0-980520-SNAP FreeBSD 3.0-980520-SNAP #0: Wed May 27 > 17:16:05 MSD 1998 osa@........:/usr/src/sys/compile/SECOND i386 > # named -b /etc/namedb/named.boot > May 27 ......... named[349]: /etc/namedb/named.boot:1: syntax error near; > May 27 ......... named[350]: Ready to answer queries. Check your /var/log/messages file when you run named to see what version of bind you're trying to run. On my 3.0-CURRENT box I'm using the bind that comes as part of the distribution: Jun 28 12:12:28 brane named[88]: starting. named 8.1.2 If your bind version is 8.x.x as opposed to 4.9.x, you'll need to fix your named.boot since the format has changed somewhat. You can find an example file in /usr/src/etc/namedb/named.conf. -- Ian Freislich Senior System Administrator UUNET Internet Africa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 05:01:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12441 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:01:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from octopus.originative.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12295 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@originative.co.uk) Received: by OCTOPUS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:01:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: Paul Richards To: "'Mike'" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:01:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > http://www.acpi.org/ > > http://www.dmtf.org/ > > http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev > > Hey... look... I got something useful outta this thread. ;) > > -mike I particularly liked the AVIATION CRIME PREVENTION INSTITUTE, INC. web site. very informative :-) Should the first URL point somewhere else? Paul Richards Ph.D. Originative Solutions Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 05:33:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15661 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from teel.info-noire.com (XP11-1-6-02.interlinx.qc.ca [207.253.79.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15656 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@gel.usherb.ca) Received: from localhost (alex@localhost) by teel.info-noire.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00541; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:33:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from alex@teel.info-noire.com) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:33:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Boisvert Reply-To: boia01@gel.usherb.ca To: Mike Smith cc: Zach Heilig , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppbus is broken. In-Reply-To: <199806272229.PAA15913@antipodes.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > No, I don't. I have almost the same configuration as Zach: > > > > controller ppbus0 # ppbus stuff > > controller vpo0 at ppbus0 # Iomega ZIP support > > device nlpt0 at ppbus0 # printer support > > device ppi0 at ppbus0 # ppbus interface > > #device plip0 at ppbus0 # PLIP support > > controller ppc0 at isa? port? irq 7 vector ppcintr > > Then please try with 'tty' and report your results. The entry in LINT > was wrong; it's less wrong now (but still not entirely right). > I added the 'tty' argument and I don't get the 'little bursts of garbage' anymore. Thank you for your help. BTW: Is there any plan to support dynamic device attachment on the ppbus? (ie. like plugging/unpluggin a ZIP drive to an already working system) Regards, Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 06:02:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18249 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18242 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/Spinner) with ESMTP id VAA07986; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:01:19 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199806281301.VAA07986@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Zach Heilig cc: Mike Smith , bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppbus is broken. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:54:53 EST." <19980628045453.B650@znh.org.> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:01:19 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Zach Heilig wrote: > BTW, I just tried this again (with a fairly recent [june 25] kernel). > relevant kernel config lines: > > controller ppbus0 > device nlpt0 at ppbus? > controller ppc0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector ppcintr > > detected as: > > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa > ppc0: Generic chipset in EPP mode (EPP 1.9) > nlpt0: on ppbus 0 > nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port > > I can't say for sure that it is fixed, but at least one pdf that used get hos ed > comes out properly. It's a real shame that the 'tty', 'bio', 'net' flags and the 'vector xxxintr' are required. It's quite a simple change to config(8) and struct isa_device and isa.c to enable isa drivers to register their own interrupt handler and mask at probe time. The best part is that it can be done incrementally.. We can add an id_maskptr field, and have config generate an single 'isa_devtab' rather than an 'isa_devtab_bio', 'isa_devtab_net', etc. If the mask is specified in the config file, it would be used to initialize the field. The driver can change this at probe time, and isa.c will automatically use it. It would then become: controller ppc0 at isa? port? irq 7 but the old specification would still be accepted just fine (but would essentially be ignored). I don't know how this fits in with the future plans for interrupt registration etc, but it's a low impact change that can be gradually taken advantage of in drivers. This will become more of an issue with CAM, since it's driver interrupts are masked by 'cam' rather than 'bio', and it's very easy to get subtle (but very destructive) problems if the user 'forgets' to change all the 'bio' flags to 'cam'. It would be better if it wasn't required and was essentially ignored. The device driver knows this information best, there's no need to duplicate it in the config file. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm Netplex Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 06:11:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19077 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19061 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-14-23.camtech.net.au [203.55.242.151]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA06241; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:37:32 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <359640D3.9C7B892E@camtech.net.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:40:43 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: Matthew Thyer , Terry Lambert , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <199806280326.UAA16965@antipodes.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First up I should say I've had zero sleep last night. I apologise to you Mike for my over-reaction. It's just that some of your comments grated a bit and I replied too quickly. What set me off was the fact that we are about to lose functionality which has always worked in the past. I now see why "options VM86" has to become mandatory if it will give us the benefits you have listed. I'm just trying to point out the functionality that will be lost when this happens. On the balance it is well worth losing for what we gain. Not being in core I do not have the inside information but now you have explained it I and the rest of the list will know why "options VM86" is to become mandatory. I have now had it pointed out to me that booting clean from a FreeBSD boot disk is well documented as the best way and that booting from DOS may work if you're lucky. So the documentation is there. I'm just pissed about losing functionality as I've said before. Lots of people cannot boot from CDROM and I'd like to think people are still going to run FreeBSD on 'old' Pentium 166 or 200 machines that are now too slow for Microsoft bloat ware. As someone has said maybe fbsdboot.exe should be retired. Sorry again. My lack of sleep and the lost functionality got to me. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 06:13:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19297 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19292 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-14-23.camtech.net.au [203.55.242.151]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA06393; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:39:48 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <3596415C.95D28C9E@camtech.net.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:43:00 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: Mike Smith , Matthew Thyer , Terry Lambert , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <20432.899008615@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not that it's a problem with fbsdboot.exe itself it's just that "options VM86" is about to become mandatory and code triggered by that option makes certain assumptions that cannot be made when booting from DOS in all cases. I dont think we should kill fbsdboot.exe because it can still be useful. What would be best is for fbsdboot.exe to return all vectors to normal but I realise that cannot be done. Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Summary) There may be no way of booting cleanly using a versions of > > DOS from Microsoft in the future. This is not the case > > now - see STOP PRESS below. > > Actually, what this tells is is that fbsdboot.exe should be deprecated > because: > > A) It's never been that well supported in the past as it is. > > B) It's clearly vulnerable to future Microsoft braindamage. > > C) I'd prefer not to rely on M$ behavior in anything resembling > a supported installation feature. > > So, given all of that, I will now work to remove all references to > fbsdboot.exe in our installation instructions and simply recommend > that a boot floppy be used in *all* installation cases. > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 06:14:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19457 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19432 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-14-23.camtech.net.au [203.55.242.151]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA06514; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:40:39 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <3596418F.5AFDC7D1@camtech.net.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:43:51 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: Mike Smith , Matthew Thyer , Terry Lambert , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <199806270151.SAA09466@antipodes.cdrom.com> <35959EE1.197BE9D5@camtech.net.au> <19980628123937.G28055@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > > > Conclusion) FreeBSD should not be relying on these vectors being > > unmodified. Particularly when the broken code in question is going > > to become mandatory. > > FreeBSD doesn't. What we're talking about is a standalone boot > program that none of us use anyway. And the broken code is anything > but mandatory. Understand what we're trying to tell you: run > Microsoft if you must, but don't try to use it to run FreeBSD. FreeBSD does. I say FreeBSD because when "options VM86" becomes a mandatory option you cannot remove it. This then triggers the broken code (being the memory size checking IIRC). There is nothing wrong with fbsdboot.exe. It's just that it cannot ensure that these vectors have not been changed and then later code requires them to be unchanged. I only use fbsdboot.exe to recover when Microsloth has trashed my boot sector (usually from re-installing Win95 which has to be done once a month or so as it's a piece of crap that gets itself screwed up all the time). I should use a FreeBSD boot disk and I will in the future. I'm just slightly pissed that a function that can be performed now is about to be lost because of an assumption in the code. I hate to lose functionality. > > When I say "floppies have been formatted with Windows 98" I obviously > > mean "formatted to be bootable." since I was replying to your > > suggestion of "boot from a floppy". Dont try to cloud the issue by > > stating the obvious "the formatter doesn't matter a damn". > > You misunderstand the situation. A FreeBSD boot diskette is a FreeBSD > boot diskette, not a bootable Microsoft floppy. Once you copy the > data to it, it knows nothing of Microsoft disk formats. I dont misunderstand. I know the difference between a FreeBSD boot disk and a DOS boot disk. I thought we were talking about booting from a DOS floppy so I can run fbsdboot.exe. What you are saying is boot from a FreeBSD boot disk. If I dont have one of these I might be in trouble in the future (I do have one) especially if I dont have a FreeBSD CD (having installed from the net). Answer: Always make a FreeBSD boot disk. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 06:14:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19512 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:14:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19507 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-14-23.camtech.net.au [203.55.242.151]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA06535; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:40:53 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <3596419D.3B5B6C03@camtech.net.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:44:05 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Mike Smith , Matthew Thyer , Terry Lambert , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting from Microsoft (was: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up)) References: <25683.898937317@time.cdrom.com> <35958F9B.26E73D1E@camtech.net.au> <19980628104032.A28038@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > > I've put a lot of effort into making it clear that any attempt to boot > FreeBSD from another running operating system or Microsoft product is > a matter of luck at the best. That notwithstanding, there's no reason > to expect things to stay the way they are: somebody will get around to > making it possible to boot from Microsoft's latest. Sorry if I'm implying it's not documented. I haven't read the install docs for 2 years as I never have to re-install FreeBSD (not like that Microsoft piece of ****). > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 06:18:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20081 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20068 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 06:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-14-23.camtech.net.au [203.55.242.151]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA06716; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:42:47 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <3596420F.6DBD766F@camtech.net.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:45:59 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: Mike Smith , Matthew Thyer , Terry Lambert , Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <6723.898994542@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Accepted. I haven't read the install docs for a long time. I'm just slight pissed that we are about to lose functionality which exists today (i.e. without "options VM86" in the kernel). That combined with the fact that I had zero sleep last night has made me over-react a bit. I am not unhappy with FreeBSD, I just hate losing functionality. I'm sorry I have caused so much traffic on the list but maybe it's been worth it to get the message out about our reliance on these vectors being unmodified. Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Somewhere it will have to be documented that Windows 98 users > > will have to make the FreeBSD boot floppy and boot from that > > to install. > > It's documented all over the place that this is how Win* people should > install the system - the whole fbsdboot.exe thing was provided just as > a clever trick for making it even easier in some circumstances and > it's always been plugged as a last resort, especially since it > interacts so poorly with extended memory managers and always has. > > - Jordan -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 07:17:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26812 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 07:17:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.15.68.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26807 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 07:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA17043; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:17:39 +1000 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:17:39 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199806281417.AAA17043@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: peter@netplex.com.au, zach@gaffaneys.com Subject: Re: ppbus is broken. Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@smith.net.au Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >It's a real shame that the 'tty', 'bio', 'net' flags and the 'vector >xxxintr' are required. It's quite a simple change to config(8) and struct >isa_device and isa.c to enable isa drivers to register their own interrupt >handler and mask at probe time. > >The best part is that it can be done incrementally.. We can add an >id_maskptr field, and have config generate an single 'isa_devtab' rather >than an 'isa_devtab_bio', 'isa_devtab_net', etc. If the mask is specified I might remove some device class specifiers from configurations when I remove some interrupt handler specifiers. They are already mostly ignored for interrupts registered by drivers (attempts by isa_configure() attempts to register interrupts twice are silently ignored). The tables are still used for deciding which devices are ttys and for multiplexing the fd and wd drivers, so merging them is not completely trivial. >in the config file, it would be used to initialize the field. The driver >can change this at probe time, and isa.c will automatically use it. Changing the tables for isa_configure() to interpret later is easier, but I don't think it is right. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 07:46:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29527 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 07:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gargoyle.bazzle.com (gargoyle.bazzle.com [206.103.246.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29522 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 07:46:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejc@bazzle.com) Received: (qmail 3992 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1998 12:59:44 -0000 Received: from gargoyle.bazzle.com (206.103.246.189) by gargoyle.bazzle.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1998 12:59:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:59:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric J. Chet" To: The Hermit Hacker cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Now, I'm seeing that we have stuff like cd-write and cdrecord > available, but fear our CD-R is supported...but I figured I'd just check > before I returned it, just in case its something that I haven't done. > > Basically, dmesg comes up as: > > cd0 at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 > cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 > > Has anyone succeeded in getting that model working? Is there > something that I have to do (enable in the kernel?) to get this to work? Hello I use a Yamaha CDR-200(same as the CDR-400, but only 2x write) with -current and cdrecord all the time. Regards, Eric Chet -- ejchet@lucent.com || ejc@bazzle.com Systems Analysts - Specializing in OOA, OOD and CORBA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 08:53:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05528 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:53:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA05516 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:53:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA16209; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:54:27 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199806281554.LAA16209@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthey.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, tlambert@primenet.com, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20432.899008615@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jun 27, 98 09:36:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Jordan K. Hubbard had to walk into mine and say: > > Summary) There may be no way of booting cleanly using a versions of > > DOS from Microsoft in the future. This is not the case > > now - see STOP PRESS below. > > Actually, what this tells is is that fbsdboot.exe should be deprecated > because: > > A) It's never been that well supported in the past as it is. > > B) It's clearly vulnerable to future Microsoft braindamage. > > C) I'd prefer not to rely on M$ behavior in anything resembling > a supported installation feature. > > So, given all of that, I will now work to remove all references to > fbsdboot.exe in our installation instructions and simply recommend > that a boot floppy be used in *all* installation cases. > > - Jordan Uhm. Just one point I'd like to make here. Removing fbsdboot.exe entirely would be a bad idea. I agree that it can cause confusion, but I encountered one case the other day where I ended up needing it. Some of the people in one of the labs here are working on a mobile computing project of some kind, and they have quite a few laptops floating around. One of them, which I think is a DSI, refuses to run the FreeBSD boot block. (I say 'I think it's a DSI' because the stupid machine doesn't have any identifying vendor markings on it whatsoever.) You can actually configure the thing to boot from internal disk, floppy or CD-ROM. When I put the FreeBSD install floppy or CD-ROM in and try to boot, it says 'Loading boot block from FLOPPY: FAILED' or 'Loading boot block from CD-ROM: FAILED' and moves on to the internal disk and loads LoseNT. As a hack, I dug up a set of MS-DOG 6.22 floppies and put an ATAPI CD-ROM driver on one of them so that I could boot the laptop in MS-DOG and access the FreeBSD install CD. From there I ran fbsdboot.exe, and successfully loaded the install kernel. Clearly, the machine likes the MS-DOG bootstrap and the LoseNT bootstrap, but not ours. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm clever enough to find the exact problem myself, and I can't really load FreeBSD on this machine since they need it with LoseNT (grrrr). I'll try to dig up the exact make and model number in case anyone's really interested. My point is: if you want to deprecate the use of fbsdboot.exe, well I suppose that's okay, but don't nuke it entirely yet. It still has its uses. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 09:52:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11645 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles219.castles.com [208.214.165.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11638 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19780; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806281653.JAA19780@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Bill Paul cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:54:26 EDT." <199806281554.LAA16209@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:53:32 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > floating around. One of them, which I think is a DSI, refuses to > run the FreeBSD boot block. (I say 'I think it's a DSI' because the > stupid machine doesn't have any identifying vendor markings on it > whatsoever.) Eyecch. > You can actually configure the thing to boot from internal disk, > floppy or CD-ROM. When I put the FreeBSD install floppy or CD-ROM > in and try to boot, it says 'Loading boot block from FLOPPY: FAILED' > or 'Loading boot block from CD-ROM: FAILED' and moves on to the > internal disk and loads LoseNT. > > As a hack, I dug up a set of MS-DOG 6.22 floppies and put an > ATAPI CD-ROM driver on one of them so that I could boot the laptop > in MS-DOG and access the FreeBSD install CD. From there I ran > fbsdboot.exe, and successfully loaded the install kernel. > > Clearly, the machine likes the MS-DOG bootstrap and the LoseNT > bootstrap, but not ours. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm clever > enough to find the exact problem myself, and I can't really load > FreeBSD on this machine since they need it with LoseNT (grrrr). Just out of curiosity, what happens if you take the "MSDOS" signature off the top of a DOS boot floppy and drop it onto the FreeBSD image? (I realise the resulting bootblock won't work, but it would tell us something about the criteria they're using.) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 10:06:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13418 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-11.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13413 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA20359; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:06:29 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:06:28 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Andy Sparrow cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Yamaha CD-R ... In-Reply-To: <3596114C.F7A3904E@best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Andy Sparrow wrote: > You may find my web page (wittily entitled "So, you want to burn your own CDs > under FreeBSD?") useful, as it details various things that don't seem to be > addressed in the port and are misleading (outdated) in the README.xxxBSD file, > as well as some info about the worm driver. > > Here's the URL: > > http://www.best.com/~spadger/CDR-main.html Perfect, its working now, thanks :) Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 10:24:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15108 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from limbo.rtfm.net (nathan@rtfm.net [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15007; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nathan@limbo.rtfm.net) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.rtfm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09337; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:23:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nathan) Message-ID: <19980628132304.A9279@rtfm.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:23:04 -0400 From: Nathan Dorfman To: Niall Smart , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Dmitrij Tejblum , jose@nobody.org Subject: pppd suid root? (Re: bin/7070) Mail-Followup-To: Niall Smart , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Dmitrij Tejblum , jose@nobody.org References: <199806270937.NAA01697@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806270937.NAA01697@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru>; from Dmitrij Tejblum on Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 01:37:01PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 01:37:01PM +0400, Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > Niall Smart wrote: > > On Jun 26, 8:06am, Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > > } Subject: Re: bin/7070 > > > Synopsis: pppd not setuid root > > > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open-closed > > > State-Changed-By: dt > > > State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 26 08:03:33 PDT 1998 > > > State-Changed-Why: > > > Fixed in src/usr.sbin/pppd/Makefile rev 1.4.2.2 > > > > Fixed eh? > > Yeah. It always was setuid, and Peter obviously didn't want to change > it. -stable is not the place to introduce changes, you know. If you > think that the permissions are wrong, let's discuss it on some mailing > such as -security or -current, first. Or fill a PR. I don't have strong > opinion on this, I just fixed a -stable breakage. Okay. > > So why is pppd setuid? > > To allow non-root users to dial out, I think. Perhaps, to allow > non-root users to dial in. I don't think this is such a hot idea. For example, the ppp link is the only net link at rtfm.net. If pppd is suid root, and the current instance dies, it is automatically respawned by /etc/ttys. However, if a luser's script runs his own pppd in that time, with the lock option, he'll lock access to the modem and the machine's connectivity is dead. Even if ppp isn't the only link to the net, if a luser runs pppd with the defaultroute option, the routing table's default entry will point to the machine on the other end of the ppp link if the connection is successful. This is a Bad Thing even *if* the other machine isn't a dead end. > Dima -- ________________ ___________________________________________ / Nathan Dorfman \ / "My problems start when the smarter bears / nathan@rtfm.net \/ and the dumber visitors intersect." / finger for PGP key \ Steve Thompson, Yosemite wildlife biologist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 11:36:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22928 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from academ02.maz.itesm.mx ([132.254.218.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22917 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from al540562@academ02.maz.itesm.mx) Received: from localhost (al540562@localhost) by academ02.maz.itesm.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06014 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: yo To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing Freebsd with two cdrom in one machine (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was trying to install freebsd in a computer with two cdroms without success.. in the first Ide port I have a hard dis (master), in the second ide port I have a cdr (master) and a cdrom(slave)... but when I try to install freebsd from the freebsd cd... the installation program freeze in the probing device section.. What can I do? Does Freebsd support two cd units? thanks for your help Please send response to: al540562@academ02.maz.itesm.mx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 11:37:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22983 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa5-20.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22978 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:37:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20728; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:36:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806281836.LAA20728@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: dfr@nlsystems.com CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Doug Rabson on Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:39:28 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Doug, I looked at the changed man pages. All I noticed was some structure differences and maybe some grammar differences. There was one possible name conflict. Some man pages do not have 'Return Values' sections. BUS_PRINT_CHILD bus_generic_read_ivar devclass_add_driver devclass_get_maxunit devclass_get_name device_enable for device_is_enabled device_get_devclass device_get_driver device_get_ivars device_get_state device_get_unit device_set_desc for device_get_desc DEVICE_ATTACH - Description uses future tense, 'should'. Was this intended? DEVICE_PROBE - Description uses future tense, 'should'. Was this intended? devclass - /usr/include/sys/device.h contains enum devclass { ... } devclass_add_driver - ispell says 'initialisation' should be 'initialization' device_find_child - 'child of dev. with the' - period intended? Hope this helps, tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 11:57:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25286 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:57:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coredump.int.tele.dk (fw1.inet.tele.dk [193.163.158.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25241 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fluffy@int.tele.dk) Received: from localhost (fluffy@localhost) by coredump.int.tele.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00380 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:57:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fluffy@int.tele.dk) X-Authentication-Warning: coredump.int.tele.dk: fluffy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:57:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Charlie Fluffy Reply-To: Barry Bouwsma To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ext2fs and sync Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just built me 3.0-980627-SNAP, with support enabled for the Linux ext2fs filesystem. Mounting an ext2fs filesystem read-only seems to work fine, however monting the same filesystem rw results in a panic soon after. The problem appears to be easy to bring about with the `sync' command, and I see reference to ext2_sync+0xa6 Does anyone else see this, or do I need to dig around some more for the message about bad magic I think I saw once? Thanks, Barry Bouwsma, Tele Danmark Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 12:26:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28865 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.camalott.com (root@[208.203.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28821 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:26:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-113.camalott.com [208.229.74.113] (may be forged)) by mail.camalott.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01754; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:24:40 -0500 Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09714; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:24:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:24:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806281924.OAA09714@detlev.UUCP> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, tlambert@primenet.com, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20432.899008615@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) From: Joel Ray Holveck References: <20432.899008615@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So, given all of that, I will now work to remove all references to > fbsdboot.exe in our installation instructions and simply recommend > that a boot floppy be used in *all* installation cases. I'm rather unclear on whether you are serious in this idea or not. But if so, don't some devices need initialization code that only a config.sys / fbsdboot combination can provide? (I thought that was in the handbook or something.) Best, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org - http://www.wp.com/piquan Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 12:29:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29382 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.camalott.com (root@mail.camalott.com [208.203.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29362 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-113.camalott.com [208.229.74.113] (may be forged)) by mail.camalott.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01936; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:29:04 -0500 Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09766; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:29:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:29:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806281929.OAA09766@detlev.UUCP> To: thyerm@camtech.net.au CC: jkh@time.cdrom.com, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, tlambert@primenet.com, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <3596415C.95D28C9E@camtech.net.au> (message from Matthew Thyer on Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:43:00 +0930) Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) From: Joel Ray Holveck References: <20432.899008615@time.cdrom.com> <3596415C.95D28C9E@camtech.net.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What would be best is for fbsdboot.exe to return all vectors to > normal but I realise that cannot be done. It may be possible to add a tiny driver to the config.sys that records the vectors at that time, and fbsdboot can restore them then. I used the same basic technique to load and unload TSRs in batches in my sysop days. Happy hacking, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org - http://www.wp.com/piquan Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 14:30:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11138 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles355.castles.com [208.214.167.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11121 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20734; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806282129.OAA20734@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: boia01@gel.usherb.ca cc: Mike Smith , Zach Heilig , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppbus is broken. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 08:33:09 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:29:57 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > No, I don't. I have almost the same configuration as Zach: > > > > > > controller ppbus0 # ppbus stuff > > > controller vpo0 at ppbus0 # Iomega ZIP support > > > device nlpt0 at ppbus0 # printer support > > > device ppi0 at ppbus0 # ppbus interface > > > #device plip0 at ppbus0 # PLIP support > > > controller ppc0 at isa? port? irq 7 vector ppcintr > > > > Then please try with 'tty' and report your results. The entry in LINT > > was wrong; it's less wrong now (but still not entirely right). > > > > I added the 'tty' argument and I don't get the 'little bursts of garbage' > anymore. Thank you for your help. Thank Nicolas for pointing it out to Zach initially, and blame me for getting it wrong in LINT to start with. 8( > BTW: Is there any plan to support dynamic device attachment on the ppbus? > (ie. like plugging/unpluggin a ZIP drive to an already working system) Not at this point in time. Reprobing the bus is a fairly difficult thing to do "right". -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 14:32:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11360 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11349 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.0/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id XAA00289 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:31:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.9.0.Beta4/keltia-2.14/nospam) id XAA11859 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:19:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19980628231930.A11745@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:19:30 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Softupdate related panic :( Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Chris Dillon on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 06:00:16PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#4419 AMD-K6 MMX @ 225 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Chris Dillon: > to tell you the truth. If i used 'config -g' when building my kernel, > would that give more informative crashdumps? How about doing something Argument given to functions and ability to print values of various variables. Here is what I sent to Julian a couple days ago: GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc. (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.30 (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.30 IdlePTD 231000 initial pcb at 1dd5cc panicstr: handle_workitem_freeblocks: block count panic messages: --- dmesg: magic number incorrect --- #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:296 296 break; (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:296 #1 0xf0113797 in panic (fmt=0xf0101498 "from debugger") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:436 [...] #13 0xf010696e in kproc_start (udata=0xf01cdea4) at ../../kern/init_main.c:245 #14 0xf0197e39 in fork_trampoline () Cannot access memory at address 0x1. (kgdb) up 9 #9 0xf011378e in panic ( fmt=0xf01746fc "handle_workitem_freeblocks: block count") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:434 434 */ (kgdb) up #10 0xf017496f in handle_workitem_freeblocks (freeblks=0xf0b0ad80) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:1966 1966 softdep_error("handle_workitem_freeblks", allerror); (kgdb) list 1961 1962 #ifdef DIAGNOSTIC 1963 if (freeblks->fb_chkcnt != blocksreleased) 1964 panic("handle_workitem_freeblocks: block count"); 1965 if (allerror) 1966 softdep_error("handle_workitem_freeblks", allerror); 1967 #endif /* DIAGNOSTIC */ 1968 WORKITEM_FREE(freeblks, D_FREEBLKS); 1969 num_freeblks -= 1; 1970 } (kgdb) print *freeblks $2 = {fb_list = {wk_list = {le_next = 0xf0bb1ca0, le_prev = 0xf01e35c8}, wk_type = 8, wk_state = 0}, fb_previousinum = 17410, fb_devvp = 0xf5867ba0, fb_fs = 0xf09a2800, fb_oldsize = 0x000000000002e000, fb_newsize = 0x0000000000000000, fb_chkcnt = 384, fb_uid = 0, fb_dblks = { 111464, 111472, 111480, 111488, 111496, 111504, 111512, 111520, 111528, 111536, 111544, 111552}, fb_iblks = {111560, 0, 0}} (kgdb) print blocksreleased $3 = 400 -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #11: Sat Jun 27 00:41:06 CEST 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 15:30:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18719 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (daemon@smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18713 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25215; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:29:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd025181; Sun Jun 28 15:29:57 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12716; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:29:48 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806282229.PAA12716@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) To: joelh@gnu.org (Joel Ray Holveck) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:29:48 +0000 (GMT) Cc: thyerm@camtech.net.au, jkh@time.cdrom.com, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, tlambert@primenet.com, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806281929.OAA09766@detlev.UUCP> from "Joel Ray Holveck" at Jun 28, 98 02:29:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > What would be best is for fbsdboot.exe to return all vectors to > > normal but I realise that cannot be done. > > It may be possible to add a tiny driver to the config.sys that records > the vectors at that time, and fbsdboot can restore them then. I used > the same basic technique to load and unload TSRs in batches in my > sysop days. What are the Linux people doing about it? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 15:30:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18787 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (daemon@smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18714 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:29:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20561; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:29:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd020518; Sun Jun 28 15:29:37 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12693; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:29:20 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806282229.PAA12693@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) To: joelh@gnu.org (Joel Ray Holveck) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:29:20 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, tlambert@primenet.com, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806281924.OAA09714@detlev.UUCP> from "Joel Ray Holveck" at Jun 28, 98 02:24:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > So, given all of that, I will now work to remove all references to > > fbsdboot.exe in our installation instructions and simply recommend > > that a boot floppy be used in *all* installation cases. > > I'm rather unclear on whether you are serious in this idea or not. > But if so, don't some devices need initialization code that only > a config.sys / fbsdboot combination can provide? (I thought that was > in the handbook or something.) Yes. This is the only way to make some "compatability mode" sound cards function. It is also useful for emulation drivers to be loaded at the top of 640, and the memory size returned adjusted down, since BSD now respects this for APM support. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 15:49:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21046 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21030 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/Spinner) with ESMTP id GAA13106; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:47:42 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199806282247.GAA13106@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Thomas Dean cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:36:19 MST." <199806281836.LAA20728@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:47:42 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Dean wrote: [..] > devclass_add_driver - ispell says 'initialisation' should be 'initialization' Depends where you live.. I've got two dictionaries that pretty much say the exact opposite on this particular suffix. I've given up trying to predict which will say what these days. Generally Australian English is closer to British English than American English, but not in this case it seems. The Oxford (.uk) and Macquarie (.au) appear to disagree. The most current dictionary I have (the Macquarie, which is updated regularly based on common usage) suggests that initialisation is the canonical form *here* but has initialization listed as a variation according to suffix rules. The Oxford (*very* old edition - 1911, last revised in 1964) doesn't know about -isation, but does list when and how one would use -ize vs. -ise in the UK. I give up. :-) Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm Netplex Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 16:00:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22033 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21958 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA27900 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:59:07 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA21291; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:59:28 +0800 Message-Id: <199806282259.GAA21291@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CVS-CUR ctms are not being generated. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:59:28 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone please have a look at this? The last one went through at Jun 27 23:55. Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 16:08:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22972 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oldnews.quick.net (donegan@oldnews.quick.net [207.212.170.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22897 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from donegan@oldnews.quick.net) Received: (from donegan@localhost) by oldnews.quick.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA02323; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:07:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven P. Donegan" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup server down? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been trying on and off all day to grab the latest updates - but my connection has been refused. Any ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 16:15:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23608 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (nsmart@ts01-04.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23586 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id AAA01641; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:10:03 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199806282310.AAA01641@indigo.ie> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:10:03 +0000 In-Reply-To: Peter Wemm "Re: Draft manpages available for review" (Jun 29, 6:47am) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Peter Wemm , Thomas Dean Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Jun 29, 6:47am, Peter Wemm wrote: } Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review > Thomas Dean wrote: > Oxford (*very* old edition - 1911, last revised in 1964) doesn't know about > -isation, but does list when and how one would use -ize vs. -ise in the UK. Oh, when? I always thought -ize was an americanizm. Niall -- Niall Smart. PGP: finger njs3@motmot.doc.ic.ac.uk FreeBSD: Turning PC's into Workstations: www.freebsd.org Annoy your enemies and astonish your friends: echo "#define if(x) if (!(x))" >> /usr/include/stdio.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 16:30:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25107 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from colin.muc.de (root@colin.muc.de [193.174.4.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25025 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:30:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhs@jhs.muc.de) Received: from jhs.muc.de ([193.174.4.84]) by colin.muc.de with SMTP id <140577-1>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:00:05 +0200 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by jhs.muc.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01374; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:59:34 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from jhs) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:59:34 +0200 Message-Id: <199806282259.AAA01374@jhs.muc.de> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gnats ctms From: Julian Stacey Reply-To: Julian Stacey X-Net: jhs@freebsd.org jhs@muc.de www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ www.muc.de/~jhs/ X-Tel: Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: 2608126 Data: 26023276 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, can someone please give me URLs to archive of past CTMs for gnats, & current mail list name & majordomo hostname etc ? Someone who's actualy seen / using that stuff, as I have lots of old URLs & notes from handbook etc, but can't actually find where it's really gone. Thanks. Julian Julian H. Stacey http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/freebsd/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 16:35:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25728 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25603 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22751; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:34:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd022719; Sun Jun 28 16:34:07 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA15894; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:34:00 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806282334.QAA15894@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:34:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, tlambert@primenet.com, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20432.899008615@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jun 27, 98 09:36:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So, given all of that, I will now work to remove all references to > fbsdboot.exe in our installation instructions and simply recommend > that a boot floppy be used in *all* installation cases. So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. I guess they'll just stay booted in Windows all of the time, since that is the required default state... 8-(. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 16:53:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28988 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:53:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (daemon@smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28955 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15270; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:52:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd015221; Sun Jun 28 16:52:51 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA16655; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:52:49 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806282352.QAA16655@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: ImageMagik-4.0.7 -- Broken? To: cwsung@Sung.org (Christian Sung) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:52:49 +0000 (GMT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Christian Sung" at Jun 28, 98 03:23:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Making all in xlib > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./magick -I./magick -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/loc > al/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O -pipe -c animate.c > /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -o animate animate.o magick/libMagic > k.la -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg > -lpng -lttf -lz -lm > mkdir .libs > LD_LIBRARY_PATH="magick/.libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" cc -O -pipe -o .libs/animate ani > mate.o -R/usr/local/lib -lMagick -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext > -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg -lpng -lttf -lz -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > -lX11 -lXext -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg -lpng -lttf -lz -lm > animate.o: Undefined symbol `_SetClientName' referenced from text segment > animate.o: Undefined symbol `_XGetScreenDensity' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 This has got to be one of the most utterly bogus link lines that I have ever seen. First, the -lXext -lXt order is wrong. Second, each library only has to appear once. If it's appearing more than once, you probably have the library names in the wrong order, since those particular libraries don't have cross-dependencies. I was also unable to find "XGetScreenDensity" in all of the X11R6 sources; "SetClientName" seems to be a window-manager related function; perhaps you need Motif? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 16:57:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29554 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (dyna2-155.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29528 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA22820 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:57:23 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:57:23 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why am I getting this? I've checked through the man page for some sort of explanation, as well as checked permissions against /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist, and all looks okay... %ldconfig -m /usr/lib ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used Thanks... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 17:23:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03278 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03266 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:22:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id JAA00836; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:52:43 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980629095243.R28872@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:52:43 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: yo , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing Freebsd with two cdrom in one machine (fwd) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from yo on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 06:35:20PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 28 June 1998 at 18:35:20 -0700, yo wrote: > I was trying to install freebsd in a computer with two cdroms without > success.. in the first Ide port I have a hard dis (master), in the second > ide port I have a cdr (master) and a cdrom(slave)... but when I try to > install freebsd from the freebsd cd... the installation program freeze in > the probing device section.. What can I do? Tell us about the hardware you have. > Does Freebsd support two cd units? Yes. I currently have seven on my machine: === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp6) /var/backup 143 -> df Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 30206 27114 676 98% / /dev/wd0s1e 1152422 460760 599470 43% /usr /dev/wd2s1e 6051541 4799021 768397 86% /T mfs:23 31391 502 28378 2% /tmp /dev/sd0h 2047732 1391591 492323 74% /home /dev/sd1e 3866510 1978168 1579022 56% /S procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc /dev/cd0a 647556 647556 0 100% /cdrom/1 /dev/cd1a 600578 600578 0 100% /cdrom/2 /dev/cd6a 64730 64730 0 100% /cdrom/7 /dev/cd5a 38474 38474 0 100% /cdrom/6 mfs:27911 198399 2 182526 0% /home/var/tmp /dev/cd2a 653044 653044 0 100% /cdrom/3 /dev/cd3a 641716 641716 0 100% /cdrom/4 /dev/cd4a 530578 530578 0 100% /cdrom/5 Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 17:24:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03516 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles355.castles.com [208.214.167.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03449 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:24:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21362; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806290024.RAA21362@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Terry Lambert cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:34:00 -0000." <199806282334.QAA15894@usr07.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:24:26 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > So, given all of that, I will now work to remove all references to > > fbsdboot.exe in our installation instructions and simply recommend > > that a boot floppy be used in *all* installation cases. > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. You can do this with System Commander, or you can make a shortcut to the "shutdown" icon... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 17:31:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04424 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles355.castles.com [208.214.167.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04390 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:31:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21403; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806290031.RAA21403@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Terry Lambert cc: joelh@gnu.org (Joel Ray Holveck), jkh@time.cdrom.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:29:20 -0000." <199806282229.PAA12693@usr07.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:31:31 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > So, given all of that, I will now work to remove all references to > > > fbsdboot.exe in our installation instructions and simply recommend > > > that a boot floppy be used in *all* installation cases. > > > > I'm rather unclear on whether you are serious in this idea or not. > > But if so, don't some devices need initialization code that only > > a config.sys / fbsdboot combination can provide? (I thought that was > > in the handbook or something.) > > Yes. This is the only way to make some "compatability mode" sound > cards function. Many of these are actually supported "properly" now with Luigi's code. (Now if he'd just finish it... 8) > It is also useful for emulation drivers to be loaded at the top of 640, > and the memory size returned adjusted down, since BSD now respects this > for APM support. Unfortunately, this isn't the case. A DOS-mode driver doesn't adjust the BIOS memory tables (for obvious reasons), and most DOS-mode drivers are going to want to have resources vectored to them that are simply not available. It was a nice idea when we were talking about it before, but basically by the time you've reverse-engineered a driver enough to provide it with an adequate emulation environment, you might as well rewrite it properly. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 17:36:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05070 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:36:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shaw.fidalgo.net (root@shaw.fidalgo.net [206.129.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05030 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from godsey@godsey.net) Received: from shaw.fidalgo.net (godsey@shaw.fidalgo.net [206.129.156.3]) by shaw.fidalgo.net (8.8.8/8.8) with SMTP id RAA18363; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:35:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Godsey X-Sender: godsey@shaw.fidalgo.net To: The Hermit Hacker cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG if you update rc from /usr/src/etc it indexes /usr/lib/aout instead :) -- Jason Godsey - godsey@godsey.net - http://www.godsey.net/ On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Why am I getting this? I've checked through the man page for some sort of > explanation, as well as checked permissions against > /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist, and all looks okay... > > %ldconfig -m /usr/lib > ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used > > Thanks... > > Marc G. Fournier > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 18:07:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09668 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (daemon@smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09649 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25992; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:07:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd025940; Sun Jun 28 18:07:16 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19584; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:07:01 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806290107.SAA19584@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:07:01 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, joelh@gnu.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806290031.RAA21403@antipodes.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Jun 28, 98 05:31:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It is also useful for emulation drivers to be loaded at the top of 640, > > and the memory size returned adjusted down, since BSD now respects this > > for APM support. > > Unfortunately, this isn't the case. A DOS-mode driver doesn't adjust > the BIOS memory tables (for obvious reasons), and most DOS-mode drivers > are going to want to have resources vectored to them that are simply > not available. > > It was a nice idea when we were talking about it before, but basically > by the time you've reverse-engineered a driver enough to provide it > with an adequate emulation environment, you might as well rewrite it > properly. Or do the emulation environment, so that you won't have to repeat the work with the next driver. I *still* have a system where the LBA modes for the INT 13 interface are provided in a boot block that gets loaded and then calls the real boot block, located 64 sectors later. To be able to use LBA INT 13 from FreeBSD is kind of an important goal, isn't it? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 18:10:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10107 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vampire.sung.org (ip-69-175.obt.primenet.com [207.218.69.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10028 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:09:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwsung@Sung.org) Received: from win95.Sung.org (win95.sung.org [90.0.0.1]) by vampire.sung.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA06995; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:09:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwsung@Sung.org) Message-Id: <199806290109.SAA06995@vampire.sung.org> X-Sender: root@90.0.0.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:09:38 -0700 To: Terry Lambert From: Christian Sung Subject: Re: ImageMagik-4.0.7 -- Broken? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806282352.QAA16655@usr07.primenet.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:52 PM 6/28/98 +0000, you wrote: >> Making all in xlib >> cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./magick -I./magick -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/loc >> al/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O -pipe -c animate.c >> /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -o animate animate.o magick/libMagic >> k.la -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg >> -lpng -lttf -lz -lm >> mkdir .libs >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH="magick/.libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" cc -O -pipe -o .libs/animate ani >> mate.o -R/usr/local/lib -lMagick -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext >> -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg -lpng -lttf -lz -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib >> -lX11 -lXext -lXt -ljbig -ljpeg -lmpeg -lpng -lttf -lz -lm >> animate.o: Undefined symbol `_SetClientName' referenced from text segment >> animate.o: Undefined symbol `_XGetScreenDensity' referenced from text segment >> *** Error code 1 > >This has got to be one of the most utterly bogus link lines that I have >ever seen. Yup, I must agree... > >First, the -lXext -lXt order is wrong. > >Second, each library only has to appear once. If it's appearing more >than once, you probably have the library names in the wrong order, since >those particular libraries don't have cross-dependencies. Straight out of the package's Makefile (/usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagik...) > >I was also unable to find "XGetScreenDensity" in all of the X11R6 >sources; "SetClientName" seems to be a window-manager related function; >perhaps you need Motif? Nope, Motif is not required. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org >--- >Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present >or previous employers. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Christian W. Sung E-Mail: cwsung@Sung.org IS Management Consultant Website: www.Sung.org Senior UNIX Consultant Telephone (800) COM-UNIX "And the UNIX Guru typed 'rm -rf /*', and all that was before, including the Guru himself, became then null and void, and darkness came down upon the system and those who worshiped it in a rather ruthless way." -- C.W. Sung ================================================== PGP Key Fingerprint: F6E2 0372 F765 28B6 6D34 7DF4 A928 A7AF 59A0 04CD ================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 18:12:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10382 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10373 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:12:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id KAA00971; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:41:33 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980629104133.D897@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:41:33 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Jason Godsey , The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason Godsey on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 05:35:38PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 28 June 1998 at 17:35:38 -0700, Jason Godsey wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > >> Why am I getting this? I've checked through the man page for some sort of >> explanation, as well as checked permissions against >> /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist, and all looks okay... >> >>> ldconfig -m /usr/lib >> ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used > > if you update rc from /usr/src/etc it indexes /usr/lib/aout instead :) I still think this is tacky. I can understand the background, but there should be another way to do this. What's the long-term goal? /usr/lib/aout and /usr/lib/elf? Even then, I can't see any reason to exclude directories from the ldconfig search. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 18:25:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11557 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:25:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11542 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:24:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00553; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Terry Lambert cc: thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:34:00 -0000." <199806282334.QAA15894@usr07.primenet.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:23:50 -0700 Message-ID: <549.899083430@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you are now advocating. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 18:34:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12368 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12295 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr02.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18950; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:33:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com(206.165.6.202) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd018905; Sun Jun 28 18:33:42 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02146; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:33:32 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806290133.SAA02146@usr02.primenet.com> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:33:31 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <549.899083430@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jun 28, 98 06:23:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > > It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS > session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > are now advocating. :) It is not very well documented (except by me, in a posting in this thread), but you can force a Windows 95 box to "shutdown to dos" as part of the setting on a command line icon shortcut. This is typically used to run DOS games that won't run in a command window, even if it's a full screen command window. fbsdboot.exe runs perfectly well for me, from an icon on my desktop, on my old 486 EISA box running Windows 95. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 18:36:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12624 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12569 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (root@ppp-7.mexcom.net [206.103.65.199]) by ns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA05476; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:34:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3596F010.63694004@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:38:24 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Hermit Hacker CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG just add aout to this line in /etc/rc _LDC=/usr/lib to give _LDC=/usr/lib/aout for the next reboot and do a ldconfig -m /usr/lib/aout should be fine ed The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Why am I getting this? I've checked through the man page for some sort of > explanation, as well as checked permissions against > /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist, and all looks okay... > > %ldconfig -m /usr/lib > ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used > > Thanks... > > Marc G. Fournier > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 18:40:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12963 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12948 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA05361; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:39:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199806290139.UAA05361@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-Reply-To: <549.899083430@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jun 28, 98 06:23:50 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:39:01 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > > It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS > session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > are now advocating. :) > No, it is possible. :) Windows has a checkbox that you can apply to shorcuts/dos programs.. Right click on it, then go to 'Properties' -> Program -> Advanced... Then check 'MS-DOS mode'. Clicking on it will exit windows to dos, then run the program. When finished, or the next reboot it'll boot back to windows... Kevin Day DragonData To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 19:06:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16612 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:06:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (garbanzo@spain-1.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16604 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18993; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:06:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Greg Lehey cc: Jason Godsey , The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used In-Reply-To: <19980629104133.D897@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 28 June 1998 at 17:35:38 -0700, Jason Godsey wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > >> Why am I getting this? I've checked through the man page for some sort of > >> explanation, as well as checked permissions against > >> /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist, and all looks okay... > >> > >>> ldconfig -m /usr/lib > >> ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used > > > > if you update rc from /usr/src/etc it indexes /usr/lib/aout instead :) > > I still think this is tacky. I can understand the background, but > there should be another way to do this. What's the long-term goal? > /usr/lib/aout and /usr/lib/elf? Even then, I can't see any reason to > exclude directories from the ldconfig search. Last I checked, ldconfig is an a.out program only. So what good would it do to have it index elf directories? - alex | "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern | | technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." | | Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 19:10:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16980 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (garbanzo@spain-1.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16974 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA19437; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:08:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Terry Lambert , thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-Reply-To: <549.899083430@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > > It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS > session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > are now advocating. :) You can do that within Windows. Win95 still uses the old standby "PIF" files for DOS apps, and one of those settings is to force it to run in DOS mode. - alex | "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern | | technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." | | Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 19:11:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17092 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17074 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00786; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Alex cc: Terry Lambert , thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:08:35 PDT." Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:10:09 -0700 Message-ID: <782.899086209@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You can do that within Windows. Win95 still uses the old standby "PIF" > files for DOS apps, and one of those settings is to force it to run in DOS > mode. Yuck. OK, so it is possible. For now. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 19:19:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18307 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (garbanzo@spain-1.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18302 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:19:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA25620; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:19:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Terry Lambert , thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-Reply-To: <782.899086209@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > You can do that within Windows. Win95 still uses the old standby "PIF" > > files for DOS apps, and one of those settings is to force it to run in DOS > > mode. > > Yuck. OK, so it is possible. For now. :-) There's always bochs, which doesn't need any odd .exe hackery, just loads of patience. - alex "My theory is that someone's Emacs crashed on a very early version of Linux while reading alt.flame and the resulting unholy combination of Elisp and Minix code somehow managed to bootstrap itself and take on an independent existence." -- James Raynard in c.u.b.f.m on nature of Albert Cahalan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 19:28:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19237 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles234.castles.com [208.214.165.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19232 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21828; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806290229.TAA21828@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Zach Heilig cc: Mike Smith , boia01@gel.usherb.ca, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppbus is broken. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:54:53 CDT." <19980628045453.B650@znh.org.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:29:10 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > BTW, I just tried this again (with a fairly recent [june 25] kernel). > relevant kernel config lines: > > controller ppbus0 > device nlpt0 at ppbus? > controller ppc0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector ppcintr > > detected as: > > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa > ppc0: Generic chipset in EPP mode (EPP 1.9) > nlpt0: on ppbus 0 > nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port > > I can't say for sure that it is fixed, but at least one pdf that used get hosed > comes out properly. Ok, thanks for the confirmation. It sounds like we should be getting rid of the masks in the config file fairly soon, but meantime this is the right way to avoid corruption using the ppbus for printing. It's not clear how this will interact with Zip I/O, actually. I haven't tried it for ages, but then printer I/O was working for me back then too... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 19:31:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19553 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles234.castles.com [208.214.165.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19542 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21857; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806290232.TAA21857@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Alex cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:19:58 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:32:16 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > You can do that within Windows. Win95 still uses the old standby "PIF" > > > files for DOS apps, and one of those settings is to force it to run in DOS > > > mode. > > > > Yuck. OK, so it is possible. For now. :-) > > There's always bochs, which doesn't need any odd .exe hackery, just loads > of patience. Speaking of which, have you got FreeBSD booting properly under Bochs yet? I've been using it for bootstrap development work (where it's a godsend), but I can only tell that I've successfully loaded FreeBSD by the startling disappearance of the Bochs window. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 20:47:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29600 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles234.castles.com [208.214.165.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29595 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:47:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22163; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806290346.UAA22163@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Terry Lambert cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), joelh@gnu.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, thyerm@camtech.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:07:01 -0000." <199806290107.SAA19584@usr07.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:46:11 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > It is also useful for emulation drivers to be loaded at the top of 640, > > > and the memory size returned adjusted down, since BSD now respects this > > > for APM support. > > > > Unfortunately, this isn't the case. A DOS-mode driver doesn't adjust > > the BIOS memory tables (for obvious reasons), and most DOS-mode drivers > > are going to want to have resources vectored to them that are simply > > not available. > > > > It was a nice idea when we were talking about it before, but basically > > by the time you've reverse-engineered a driver enough to provide it > > with an adequate emulation environment, you might as well rewrite it > > properly. > > Or do the emulation environment, so that you won't have to repeat the > work with the next driver. The point being that the "emulation environment" you handwave is N-complete. Do you propose that we actually emulate *everything* that your average DOS driver is going to want to screw with? Do you have any idea how much of this there is? 8) How about the 18Hz timer? Virtual DMA? The LoL and everything it refers to? That's a *lot* of work. 8( > I *still* have a system where the LBA modes for the INT 13 interface > are provided in a boot block that gets loaded and then calls the real > boot block, located 64 sectors later. > > To be able to use LBA INT 13 from FreeBSD is kind of an important goal, > isn't it? Not from within the kernel, no. It's something that the bootstrap ought to be able to handle, but it's *hard* to fit all that code in 512 bytes. You're invited to try, of course. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 21:59:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05883 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:59:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.camalott.com (root@mail.camalott.com [208.203.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05878 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-75.camalott.com [208.229.74.75]) by mail.camalott.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA30247; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:56:48 -0500 Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00677; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:57:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:57:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806290457.XAA00677@detlev.UUCP> To: tlambert@primenet.com CC: thyerm@camtech.net.au, jkh@time.cdrom.com, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, tlambert@primenet.com, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, devnull@gnu.org In-reply-to: <199806282229.PAA12716@usr07.primenet.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:29:48 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) From: Joel Ray Holveck Reply-to: joelh@gnu.org References: <199806282229.PAA12716@usr07.primenet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>> What would be best is for fbsdboot.exe to return all vectors to >>> normal but I realise that cannot be done. >> It may be possible to add a tiny driver to the config.sys that records >> the vectors at that time, and fbsdboot can restore them then. I used >> the same basic technique to load and unload TSRs in batches in my >> sysop days. > What are the Linux people doing about it? I can't answer that; I haven't dealt with Linux for some time. I'm forwarding this to somebody who might know. Best, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org - http://www.wp.com/piquan Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 22:32:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09415 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles338.castles.com [208.214.167.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09407 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22777; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806290532.WAA22777@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Paul Richards cc: "'Mike'" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:01:35 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:32:47 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > http://www.acpi.org/ > > > http://www.dmtf.org/ > > > http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev > > > > Hey... look... I got something useful outta this thread. ;) > > > > -mike > > I particularly liked the AVIATION CRIME PREVENTION INSTITUTE, INC. web > site. very informative :-) > > Should the first URL point somewhere else? Whoops, I always get that one wrong. It should be http://www.teleport.com/~acpi (But it does show who's paying attention. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 22:47:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10898 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hwcn.org (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10892 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:46:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@hwcn.org) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by hwcn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA14948; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:39:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Terry Lambert , thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-Reply-To: <549.899083430@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. [...] > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > are now advocating. :) Oddly enough, I have just such an icon on my Windows desktop that does just such a thing. :) -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 28 23:57:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18272 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18259 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:57:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA16862; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: "Steven P. Donegan" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup server down? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry for the inconvenience; I believe I inadvertantly whacked the cvsupd server process while operating on auto-pilot late last night. All is well now :) -Chris On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Steven P. Donegan wrote: > I've been trying on and off all day to grab the latest updates - but my > connection has been refused. Any ideas? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 01:11:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA27649 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:11:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA27624 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA18585; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:16:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:16:02 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Thomas Dean cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review In-Reply-To: <199806281836.LAA20728@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Thomas Dean wrote: > Hi Doug, > > I looked at the changed man pages. All I noticed was some structure > differences and maybe some grammar differences. There was one > possible name conflict. > > Some man pages do not have 'Return Values' sections. > BUS_PRINT_CHILD > bus_generic_read_ivar > devclass_add_driver > devclass_get_maxunit > devclass_get_name > device_enable for device_is_enabled > device_get_devclass > device_get_driver > device_get_ivars > device_get_state > device_get_unit > device_set_desc for device_get_desc I didn't bother with a 'Return Values' section for functions which were void or where the return value was described in the 'Description' section. > > DEVICE_ATTACH - Description uses future tense, 'should'. Was this intended? > DEVICE_PROBE - Description uses future tense, 'should'. Was this intended? Not sure about this. These manpages describe the requirements for a driver's implementation of these methods which accounts for the different language. > devclass - /usr/include/sys/device.h contains enum devclass { ... } What I really want to to is 'cvs rm -f sys/device.h' :-). The concepts there are not compatible with the new framework. > devclass_add_driver - ispell says 'initialisation' should be 'initialization' Do we have any convention in our manpages for which dialect of English spelling to use? > device_find_child - 'child of dev. with the' - period intended? I'll check this, thanks. > > Hope this helps, Thanks for spending the time, its very helpful. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 01:23:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29400 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29384 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA18619; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:28:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:28:06 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Mike Smith cc: Alex , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-Reply-To: <199806290232.TAA21857@antipodes.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > You can do that within Windows. Win95 still uses the old standby "PIF" > > > > files for DOS apps, and one of those settings is to force it to run in DOS > > > > mode. > > > > > > Yuck. OK, so it is possible. For now. :-) > > > > There's always bochs, which doesn't need any odd .exe hackery, just loads > > of patience. > > Speaking of which, have you got FreeBSD booting properly under Bochs > yet? I've been using it for bootstrap development work (where it's a > godsend), but I can only tell that I've successfully loaded FreeBSD by > the startling disappearance of the Bochs window. 8) When I was playing with those same bootblocks under Bochs, I found that bochs can't handle our APM stuff at all. If you take APM out of the config, it prints the copyright messages and then dies when we try to change the clock rate. At that point I gave up :-) -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 02:23:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08596 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:23:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08588 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02524; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Doug Rabson cc: Thomas Dean , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:16:02 BST." Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:22:42 -0700 Message-ID: <2520.899112162@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Do we have any convention in our manpages for which dialect of English > spelling to use? I don't think trying to force a mandate either way would be prudent. Powers far greater than we in the linguistics community have already failed at this task. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 02:48:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11829 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (geos01.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com [134.32.44.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11759 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:47:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com) Received: from sunw157.oslo.Geco-Prakla.slb.com (sunw157 [192.23.231.83]) by oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA13892 ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:47:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by sunw157.oslo.Geco-Prakla.slb.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA07333; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:47:17 +0200 To: Doug Rabson Cc: Thomas Dean , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review References: Organization: Schlumberger Geco-Prakla X-Disclaimer: I speak only for myself. From: smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav) Date: 29 Jun 1998 11:47:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: Doug Rabson's message of Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:16:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Rabson writes: > > Some man pages do not have 'Return Values' sections. > > [...] > I didn't bother with a 'Return Values' section for functions which were > void or where the return value was described in the 'Description' section. Bzzzt, if you basically know what the function does but are unsure about the return values, having a separate RETURN VALUES section is very useful since it makes finding this information much quicker. DES (who can never remember what fgets() returns...) -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 02:51:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12550 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12535 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelh@cet.co.jp) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.8/CET-v2.2) with SMTP id JAA01257; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:49:58 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:49:58 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: Barry Bouwsma cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ext2fs and sync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ext2fs has gotten stale it really hasn't been brought fully up to date since the lite2 changes, softupdates, maybe some vm changes, etc. We could use a ext2fs volunteer. Regards, Mike Hancock On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Charlie Fluffy wrote: > Just built me 3.0-980627-SNAP, with support enabled for the Linux ext2fs > filesystem. > > Mounting an ext2fs filesystem read-only seems to work fine, however > monting the same filesystem rw results in a panic soon after. > > The problem appears to be easy to bring about with the `sync' command, > and I see reference to ext2_sync+0xa6 > > Does anyone else see this, or do I need to dig around some more for the > message about bad magic I think I saw once? > > > Thanks, > Barry Bouwsma, Tele Danmark Internet > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 02:52:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12956 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12933 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 02:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18891; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:57:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:57:29 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Dag-Erling Coidan Smrgrav cc: Thomas Dean , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 29 Jun 1998, Dag-Erling Coidan Smrgrav wrote: > Doug Rabson writes: > > > Some man pages do not have 'Return Values' sections. > > > [...] > > I didn't bother with a 'Return Values' section for functions which were > > void or where the return value was described in the 'Description' section. > > Bzzzt, if you basically know what the function does but are unsure > about the return values, having a separate RETURN VALUES section is > very useful since it makes finding this information much quicker. Most of these functions are just accessors. They don't actually *do* anything, just return stuff. Maybe I should just rename the 'DESCRIPTION' section to 'RETURN VALUES'. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 03:27:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18901 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.15.68.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18875 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA20289; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:27:00 +1000 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:27:00 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199806291027.UAA20289@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: dfr@nlsystems.com, tomdean@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I didn't bother with a 'Return Values' section for functions which were >void or where the return value was described in the 'Description' section. Perhaps the 'Description' section shouldn't say much about return values. >> devclass - /usr/include/sys/device.h contains enum devclass { ... } > >What I really want to to is 'cvs rm -f sys/device.h' :-). The concepts >there are not compatible with the new framework. It is only used by ccd.c and subr_autoconf.c. You can start by unstandardiz^Hsing subr_autoconf.c, which seems to be completely unused (it's not used by LINT) although only half of it is `#ifdef UNUSED'. >> devclass_add_driver - ispell says 'initialisation' should be 'initialization' > >Do we have any convention in our manpages for which dialect of English >spelling to use? Native. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 03:36:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19550 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19525 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-1-16.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.48]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA14003; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:02:45 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <35976E07.83833F8C@camtech.net.au> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:05:51 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used References: <19980629104133.D897@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think its been stated a few times that /usr/lib will be for ELF libraries. If thats the case the sooner we get ELFed the better. Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Sunday, 28 June 1998 at 17:35:38 -0700, Jason Godsey wrote: [snip] > > if you update rc from /usr/src/etc it indexes /usr/lib/aout instead :) > > I still think this is tacky. I can understand the background, but > there should be another way to do this. What's the long-term goal? > /usr/lib/aout and /usr/lib/elf? Even then, I can't see any reason to > exclude directories from the ldconfig search. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 03:42:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20210 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:42:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20022 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-1-16.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.48]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA14425; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:06:18 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <35976EDC.525E5640@camtech.net.au> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:09:25 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Vanderhoek CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do you have "options VM86" in your kernel ? Are you running current ? Are you doing this from Windows 3.1 or Windows 95 or 98 ? Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > [...] > > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > > are now advocating. :) > > Oddly enough, I have just such an icon on my Windows desktop that > does just such a thing. :) > > -- > Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! > tIM...HOEk > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 03:44:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20407 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20402 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:44:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-1-16.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.48]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA14899; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:10:46 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <35976FE7.4AAE6B6C@camtech.net.au> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:13:51 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <549.899083430@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It does work without "options VM86" in the kernel (under current this is). This is what I'm talking about... functionality will be lost when "options VM86" becomes mandatory. Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > > It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS > session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > are now advocating. :) > > - Jordan -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 03:48:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20899 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20876 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-1-16.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.48]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA15419; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:15:05 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <359770EB.C3C1470B@camtech.net.au> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:18:11 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Day CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <199806290139.UAA05361@home.dragondata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG broken record mode..... This doesn't work on current with "options VM86" in the kernel at least on my Pentium 166. This is from Windows 95 or Windows 98. Maybe its only Pentiums... I dont have other hardware to test. IIRC the problem is the memory size checking code that takes advantage of "options VM86" if it's present. Kevin Day wrote: > > > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > > > > It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS > > session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run > > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > > are now advocating. :) > > > > No, it is possible. :) > > Windows has a checkbox that you can apply to shorcuts/dos programs.. > > Right click on it, then go to 'Properties' -> Program -> Advanced... Then > check 'MS-DOS mode'. > > Clicking on it will exit windows to dos, then run the program. When > finished, or the next reboot it'll boot back to windows... > > Kevin Day > DragonData -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 03:51:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21318 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21312 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:51:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-1-16.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.48]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA15725; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:17:37 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <35977183.F5CA73F1@camtech.net.au> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:20:43 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BUT THIS DOESN'T WORK!!!! Try it. The shutdown to DOS results in modified vectors which results in a panic if "options VM86" is in your kernel AND you are running current. Alex wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > > > > It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS > > session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run > > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > > are now advocating. :) > > You can do that within Windows. Win95 still uses the old standby "PIF" > files for DOS apps, and one of those settings is to force it to run in DOS > mode. > > - alex > > | "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern | > | technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." | > | Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ | -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 04:10:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24430 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ren.dtir.qld.gov.au (firewall-user@ns.dtir.qld.gov.au [203.108.138.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24248; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:09:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au; id VAA13815; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:09:03 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma013810; Mon, 29 Jun 98 21:08:39 +1000 Received: from atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA25262; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:08:39 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04111; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:08:38 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (localhost.dtir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA22910; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:08:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199806291108.VAA22910@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> To: Julian Stacey cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: gnats ctms References: <199806282259.AAA01374@jhs.muc.de> In-Reply-To: <199806282259.AAA01374@jhs.muc.de> from Julian Stacey at "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:59:34 +0200" Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:08:37 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 29th June 1998, Julian Stacey wrote: >can someone please give me URLs to archive of past CTMs for gnats, >& current mail list name & majordomo hostname etc ? >Someone who's actualy seen / using that stuff, >as I have lots of old URLs & notes from handbook etc, >but can't actually find where it's really gone. Thanks. You can find the old gnats stuff somewhere on ftp.uni-trier.de, but that won't do you much good. The ctm-gnats list stopped working some time in January when freefall lost a disk (or was it hub at that time?) and was never restarted. The last one I got was gnats.1992.gz. I'm keen to get ctm-gnats again. I've idly thought of fixing myself, but that would involve system administration on the other side of the globe, and I kept putting it back in the "too hard" basket. Perhaps a better idea is to offer to close some PRs and that might get PHK to fix it. The reasoning is that I'm much more likely to troll through local stuff to find a PR to fix than try to get that web based search thing to do anything. GUI? Yuk! Stephen. PS NT sux. No reason to mention this. Just thought you should be informed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 04:19:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26325 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ren.dtir.qld.gov.au (firewall-user@ns.dtir.qld.gov.au [203.108.138.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26302 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:19:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au; id VAA13936; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:18:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma013934; Mon, 29 Jun 98 21:18:19 +1000 Received: from atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA25297; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:18:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04763; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:18:18 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (localhost.dtir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA22938; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:18:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199806291118.VAA22938@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> To: shocking@prth.pgs.com cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: CVS-CUR ctms are not being generated. References: <199806282259.GAA21291@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> In-Reply-To: <199806282259.GAA21291@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> from Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth at "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:59:28 +0800" Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:18:16 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 29th June 1998, Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth w rote: >Can someone please have a look at this? The last one went through at Jun 27 >23:55. Local failure, I expect. I received 2 between then and your posting date. I'm up to cvs-cur.4425.gz, received at 29 Jun 1998 17:24 +1000. Stephen. PS Timezones are helpful with this stuff. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 04:22:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26865 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26828 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-1-16.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.48]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA19748; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:48:11 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <359778AE.CB92A1C3@camtech.net.au> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:51:18 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <549.899083430@time.cdrom.com> <35976FE7.4AAE6B6C@camtech.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Further clarification... It works if the icon is set up to restart Windows 95 to DOS to run this DOS program. But not if you have "options VM86" in the kernel. Matthew Thyer wrote: > > It does work without "options VM86" in the kernel > (under current this is). > > This is what I'm talking about... functionality will be lost > when "options VM86" becomes mandatory. > > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > > > FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > > > > It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS > > session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run > > fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > > are now advocating. :) > > > > - Jordan -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 04:58:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02350 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shire.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02345 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:58:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joki@kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de) Received: from yacht.domestic.de (yacht.domestic.de [192.168.1.4]) by shire.domestic.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA22663 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:41:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from joki@shire.domestic.de) From: Joachim Kuebart Received: (from joki@localhost) by yacht.domestic.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA16576 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:43:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from joki@shire.domestic.de) Message-Id: <199806290543.HAA16576@yacht.domestic.de> Subject: ldconfig and ld-elf.so To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:43:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, why does ld-elf.so fail to find libraries in /usr/local/lib that are correctly hinted at by ldconfig unless I add /usr/local/lib to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH? This is in a fairly recent ELF world. cu Jo --------------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Replicants are like any other machine -- Germany they're either a benefit or a hazard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 05:58:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08358 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 05:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from myrddin.demon.co.uk (exim@myrddin.demon.co.uk [158.152.54.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08349 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 05:58:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dom@myrddin.demon.co.uk) Received: from dom by myrddin.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0yqdTL-0000gB-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:55:51 +0100 To: Tim Vanderhoek Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Terry Lambert , thyerm@camtech.net.au, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: From: Dom Mitchell In-Reply-To: Tim Vanderhoek's message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:39:21 -0400 (EDT)" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:55:51 +0100 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim Vanderhoek writes: > Oddly enough, I have just such an icon on my Windows desktop that > does just such a thing. :) Sounds like a good candidate for a FAQ entry... -- "A day without a core file is a day without sunshine." -- JB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 06:04:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09350 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:04:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09342 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA19544; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:03:23 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA25413; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:03:44 +0800 Message-Id: <199806291303.VAA25413@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stephen McKay cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS-CUR ctms are not being generated. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:18:16 +1000." <199806291118.VAA22938@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:03:44 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Monday, 29th June 1998, Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth w > rote: > > >Can someone please have a look at this? The last one went through at Jun 27 > >23:55. > I've been ftp'ing them from the ftp.freebsd.org repository. If you go & look at /pub/FreeBSD/CTM/cvs-cur, you'll see a bit of a gap between cvs-cur.4423.gz and cvs-cur.4424.gz. Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 06:04:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09368 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09327; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:04:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806291304.GAA09327@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ldconfig and ld-elf.so In-Reply-To: <199806290543.HAA16576@yacht.domestic.de> from Joachim Kuebart at "Jun 29, 98 07:43:42 am" To: joki@kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Joachim Kuebart) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Joachim Kuebart who wrote: > Hi, > > why does ld-elf.so fail to find libraries in /usr/local/lib that are > correctly hinted at by ldconfig unless I add /usr/local/lib to my > LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Because the ELF rtld doesn't support hints from ldconfig because ldconfig doesn't know about ELF. > This is in a fairly recent ELF world. That isn't supported yet :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 07:04:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20550 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20499 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05708; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:03:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: ben@rosengart.com To: Greg Lehey cc: Jason Godsey , The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used In-Reply-To: <19980629104133.D897@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > I still think this is tacky. I can understand the background, but > there should be another way to do this. What's the long-term goal? > /usr/lib/aout and /usr/lib/elf? Even then, I can't see any reason to > exclude directories from the ldconfig search. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you, this is just a hack in the service of moving from a.out to ELF, and will not be in 3.0-RELEASE, if I understand correctly. Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 07:18:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22533 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:18:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from academ02.maz.itesm.mx ([132.254.218.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22527; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glozano@academ02.maz.itesm.mx) Received: from gusmachine.maz.itesm.mx ([132.254.218.253]) by academ02.maz.itesm.mx (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20047; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806292117.OAA20047@academ02.maz.itesm.mx> X-Sender: glozano@132.254.218.4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:17:40 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Gustavo Lozano Ibarra Subject: Installing problem with two ide cdroms Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was trying to install freebsd in a computer with two cdroms without success.. in the first Ide port I have a hard dis (master), in the second ide port I have a cdr (master) and a cdrom(slave)... but when I try to install freebsd from the freebsd cd... the installation program freeze in the probing device section.. What can I do?Does Freebsd support two cd units ok, here is my hardware specification.. the second port is in the motherboard and I have connected both cd units in this port... both units share irq 15 and port 0x170... Windows can use this shared irq and detect both units... but what about freebsd... 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'''. |WebMaster at: | | ##" `##' '#. `:##' | http://www.maz.itesm.mx | | . ##' +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | ```` | Check my cool page at: | | | http://next-cec.maz.itesm.mx | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 07:47:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27628 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.camalott.com (root@mail.camalott.com [208.203.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27614 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-92.camalott.com [208.229.74.92]) by mail.camalott.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15442; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:46:44 -0500 Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02569; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:47:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:47:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806291447.JAA02569@detlev.UUCP> To: thyerm@camtech.net.au CC: garbanzo@hooked.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <35977183.F5CA73F1@camtech.net.au> (message from Matthew Thyer on Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:20:43 +0930) Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) From: Joel Ray Holveck Reply-to: joelh@gnu.org References: <35977183.F5CA73F1@camtech.net.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>> So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into >>>> FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. >>> It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS >>> session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run >>> fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you >>> are now advocating. :) >> You can do that within Windows. Win95 still uses the old standby "PIF" >> files for DOS apps, and one of those settings is to force it to run in DOS >> mode. > BUT THIS DOESN'T WORK!!!! Try it. > The shutdown to DOS results in modified vectors which results in > a panic if "options VM86" is in your kernel AND you are running > current. I'm not in a position to test this, but I will comment that if you mark the radio button for a different config.sys / autoexec.bat, then Win95 will do a warm boot before loading the program. There may be a problem running win /b after that. (win /b is what restores your old config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then reboots the computer again after your program has finished. It is automatically placed at the end of autoexec.bat in the per-program version.) Happy hacking, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org - http://www.wp.com/piquan Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 08:35:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06449 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:35:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (firewall-user@alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06438; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:35:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <55216(1)>; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:35:14 PDT Received: from gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (gnu [13.231.133.90]) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15442; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gnu (localhost) by gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA12450; Mon, 29 Jun 98 11:31:03 EDT Message-Id: <9806291531.AA12450@gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jb@cimlogic.com.au, paulz@trantor.stuyts.nl Subject: Re: make buildworld needs root privs , why ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:28:19 PDT." <199806280628.XAA04491@bubble.didi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:31:01 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Using Unix for more than 15 years, IMHO its a mistake to run any make job as root (or anything you don't have to, for that matter) When I make kernels, I chown -R leisner /usr/src/sys (or something like that) so I didn't need to be root. IMHO, its a better idea to have special "install programs" running setuid, with permissions: rwsr-x--- and put yourself into a special group to access them. But, as a rule of thumb, the fewer things you have to do as "root", the fewer fatal mistakes you can make. -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com The Feynman problem solving Algorithm 1) Write down the problem 2) Think real hard 3) Write down the answer Murray Gell-mann in the NY Times To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 11:49:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12843 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12779 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12555; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd012551; Mon Jun 29 18:45:32 1998 Message-ID: <3597E0C8.237C228A@whistle.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:45:28 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Rabson CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Rabson wrote: > > I have written a set of manpages for my new driver framework for FreeBSD. > If anyone is interested in reviewing them, you can find them at: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/man9.diff > > Just apply the diff to src/share/man/man9 and type make install. > How much have you looked at what NetBSD are moving towards? (have) Jason's work looks quite good (what I have seen of it) julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 13:01:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26594 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26542 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17057; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199806292000.NAA17057@austin.polstra.com> To: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu Subject: Re: cvsup server down? In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:00:09 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Chris Timmons wrote: > Sorry for the inconvenience; I believe I inadvertantly whacked the cvsupd > server process while operating on auto-pilot late last night. Chris was wrong in that he thought he made a mistake when really he didn't. :-) He sent me the details and it turns out that he simply discovered a bug in the cvsupd server. It'll be fixed in the next release. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 14:01:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08646 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08620 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:01:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from son@cezanne.prism.uvsq.fr) Received: from cezanne.prism.uvsq.fr (rtc101.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.17]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.3) with ESMTP id XAA10972 ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:00:45 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from son@localhost) by cezanne.prism.uvsq.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA00457; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:41:35 GMT Message-ID: <19980629224135.42320@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:41:35 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ZIP drive, just for a change References: <19980618231226.63579@futuresouth.com> <199806220438.VAA03590@antipodes.cdrom.com> <19980622182235.09449@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <19980622182235.09449@futuresouth.com>; from Matthew D. Fuller on Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 06:22:35PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 06:22:35PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 09:38:33PM -0700, Mike Smith woke me up to tell me: >> > Any idea what these messages on bootup mean? -current from a few days >> > ago, but I've seen them before, too: >> > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa >> > ppc0: SMC FDC37C665GT chipset in ECP mode >> > ppi0: on ppbus 0 >> > vpo0: on ppbus 0 >> > scbus0 at vpo0 bus 0 >> > vpoio_outstr(): unknown transfer mode (6)! >> > vpoio_outstr(): unknown transfer mode (6)! >> > vpoio_outstr(): unknown transfer mode (6)! >> >> Is the Zip working? It looks like the vpo driver isn't grokking some >> of the transfer modes that are offered by the ppbus. There are updates >> coming in this area soon, so unless you're hurting, you might just want >> to ignore this. > >Hmmm... >That's what it looked like to me. This was working, BTW, before when I >had -STABLE on this machine, with the ppbus patches. Any idea what the >differences might have been? The ZIP drive supports only NIBBLE, PS2 or EPP mode (which aren't found at bootup). Should be fixed with next updates. At least, you may try to force a mode, NIBBLE for example (flags 0x1). -- Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 14:01:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08658 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08621 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:01:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from son@cezanne.prism.uvsq.fr) Received: from cezanne.prism.uvsq.fr (rtc101.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.17]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.3) with ESMTP id XAA10966 ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:00:43 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from son@localhost) by cezanne.prism.uvsq.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA00488; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:06:36 GMT Message-ID: <19980629230636.33822@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:06:36 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ZIP drive, just for a change References: <19980618231226.63579@futuresouth.com> <199806220438.VAA03590@antipodes.cdrom.com> <19980622182235.09449@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <19980622182235.09449@futuresouth.com>; from Matthew D. Fuller on Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 06:22:35PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BTW, On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 06:22:35PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 09:38:33PM -0700, Mike Smith woke me up to tell me: >> > Any idea what these messages on bootup mean? -current from a few days >> > ago, but I've seen them before, too: >> > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa >> > ppc0: SMC FDC37C665GT chipset in ECP mode ^^^^^ (available modes should be printfed there??!) Could you send me the $Id$ of ppc.c? >> > ppi0: on ppbus 0 >> > vpo0: on ppbus 0 >> > scbus0 at vpo0 bus 0 >> > vpoio_outstr(): unknown transfer mode (6)! >> > vpoio_outstr(): unknown transfer mode (6)! >> > vpoio_outstr(): unknown transfer mode (6)! -- Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 14:49:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16215 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:49:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16191 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@shell.futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22824; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980629164849.51075@futuresouth.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:48:49 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Nicolas Souchu Cc: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ZIP drive, just for a change References: <19980618231226.63579@futuresouth.com> <199806220438.VAA03590@antipodes.cdrom.com> <19980622182235.09449@futuresouth.com> <19980629230636.33822@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <19980629230636.33822@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr>; from Nicolas Souchu on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 11:06:36PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 11:06:36PM +0000, Nicolas Souchu woke me up to tell me: > BTW, > > On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 06:22:35PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 09:38:33PM -0700, Mike Smith woke me up to tell me: > >> > Any idea what these messages on bootup mean? -current from a few days > >> > ago, but I've seen them before, too: > >> > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa > >> > ppc0: SMC FDC37C665GT chipset in ECP mode > ^^^^^ > (available modes should be printfed there??!) > > Could you send me the $Id$ of ppc.c? $Id: ppc.c,v 1.3 1998/04/17 22:36:37 des Exp $ Accessing my ZIP Drive, while it is many other things (;) is not vital. If I really need it, I can switch it over to my other machine (running -STABLE) and use it. I can try and weird funky things you might want, too, since it's just a 486 nothing-box (and let me tell you, watching a 15 hour buildworld is kinda fun ;). *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 15:13:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20055 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguars.cableinet.net (jaguars-int.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19958 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve.a@cableinet.co.uk) Received: (qmail 23308 invoked from network); 29 Jun 1998 22:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cableinet.co.uk) (194.117.159.12) by jaguars with SMTP; 29 Jun 1998 22:13:01 -0000 Message-ID: <359810B2.D480AC2E@cableinet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:09:54 +0100 From: Steve X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tmb wrote: > PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO HELP THIS LITTLE GIRL > > Dear All, > > I just received this mail from a friend of mine in my College. Please > >respond to it. It will just mean employing a little bit of time and > won't cost you a penny. All it needs is the heart for you to send > this mail. > > PLEASE pass this mail on to everybody you know. It is the request of > a little girl who will soon leave this world as she has been a victim of > the terrible disease called CANCER. Thank you for your effort, this > isn't a chain letter, but a choice for all of us to save a little girl > that's dying of a serious and fatal form of cancer. > > Please send this to everyone you know...or don't know. This little girl > has 6 months left to live, and as her dying wish, she wanted to send a > chain letter telling everyone to live their life to fullest, since she > never will. She'll never make it to prom, graduate from high school, or > get married and have a family of her own. By you sending this to as > many people as possible, you can give her and her family a little hope, > because with every name that this is sent to, The American Cancer > Society will donate 3 cents per name to her treatment and recovery > plan. One guy sent this to 500 people!!!! So, I know that we can send > it to at least 5 or 6. Come on you guys.... and if you're too selfish > to take 10-15 minutes scrolling this and forwarding it to EVERYONE, > then you are one sick person. Just think it could be you one day. It's > not even your money ,just your time!!! > > Dr. Dennis Shields > Professor > Department of Developmental and Molecular Biology > Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University > 1300 Morris Park Avenue > Bronx, New York 10461 > Phone 718-430-3306 > Fax 718-430-8567 > > PLEASE PASS ON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 15:48:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26565 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [204.42.254.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26505 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jared@puck.nether.net) Received: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.9.0/8.7.3) id SAA23050; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:47:56 -0400 Message-ID: <19980629184756.A22923@puck.nether.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:47:56 -0400 From: Jared Mauch To: Bill Fenner Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems w/ IMCP sockets References: <19980623232240.A21485@puck.nether.net> <199806241736.KAA07821@mango.parc.xerox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806241736.KAA07821@mango.parc.xerox.com>; from Bill Fenner on Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 10:36:51AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 10:36:51AM -0700, Bill Fenner wrote: > Can you give more specifics? On a 2.2.6 system, I opened 75 raw > ICMP sockets and set SO_RCVBUF to 200Kbytes on each, and then > initiated a flood ping so that I'd get lots and lots of ICMP. I > don't know if 75 is "many, many" or if 200Kbytes is "too high", > and I don't know what OS version you experienced this on, but > nothing untoward happened during my test. I'm running my "sysmond" program (source is at ftp://puck.nether.net/pub/jared/beta/sysmon-0.78.4.12-dev2.tar.gz) with the config file found in there called crashfreebsd.conf When running this, please run it with -d -n, (-d says don't fork, and -n tells it to ignore the e-mail contact info). I just crashed these boxes: FreeBSD punk.nether.net 2.2.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE #0: Wed Mar 4 12:28:12 EST 1998 jared@punk.nether.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/PUNK i386 FreeBSD irc.cic.net 3.0-980520-SNAP FreeBSD 3.0-980520-SNAP #1: Wed May 27 02:22:15 EDT 1998 jared@irc.cic.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYSMP i386 kernel conf files are in that directory also. It's panicing the kernel niceley, and 100% of the time. If you need *any* help at all reproducing this, let me know, i'd be happy to help you crash your system. (program must be run as root to do raw icmp sockets) -- feel free to comment on the "security" of the program directly to me. - Jared To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 16:07:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29560 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lepton.nuc.net (root@lepton.nuc.net [204.49.61.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29525; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:07:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wheelman@nuc.net) Received: from electron.nuc.net (dhcp3.nuc.net [204.49.61.51]) by lepton.nuc.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04158; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:07:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jaime Bozza" To: "Steve" , , Subject: RE: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:04:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000601bda3b2$472a42a0$333d31cc@electron.nuc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <359810B2.D480AC2E@cableinet.co.uk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention > > PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO HELP THIS LITTLE GIRL PLEASE, this form of spam is pretty ridiculous. Please see the website: http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html and more specifically: http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html#girldying Not only does this have NOTHING to do with FreeBSD, it is a fraud, and if you took some time to READ the message, you would realize that. The website above is an excellent place to check up on things like this. Jaime Bozza Nucleus Communications, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 16:57:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07986 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:57:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mooseriver.com (dynamic11.pm01.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07920; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:56:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA23221; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980629165636.A23071@mooseriver.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:56:36 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Steve , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention Reply-To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com References: <359810B2.D480AC2E@cableinet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <359810B2.D480AC2E@cableinet.co.uk>; from Steve on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 11:09:54PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 11:09:54PM +0100, Steve wrote: > Tmb wrote: > > > PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO HELP THIS LITTLE GIRL > > > > Dear All, > > > > I just received this mail from a friend of mine in my College. Please > > >respond to it. It will just mean employing a little bit of time and > > won't cost you a penny. All it needs is the heart for you to send > > this mail. > > > > PLEASE pass this mail on to everybody you know. It is the request of > > a little girl who will soon leave this world as she has been a victim of > > the terrible disease called CANCER. Thank you for your effort, this > > isn't a chain letter, but a choice for all of us to save a little girl > > that's dying of a serious and fatal form of cancer. > > Jesus H. Christ, not this shit again. This is the Craig Shergold thread come back to life. For those of you who were lucky enough to miss this, Craig Shergold was a kid in England, some little town outside of Leeds if I remember right, who had a very bad form of cancer. This is in the mid to late 80's when almost no one had heard of the Internet. Some bozo at the local university took it upon himself to post a notice to netnews very simular to this one. The notice asked people to help fill Craig's dying wish to get into the Guniess book of records by sending sending him a post card. He got something like 10 million post cards, the local Post office was swamped and Craig's parents were posting notices to netnews as well being interview by the newspapers telling people to STOP. This went on for a couple of years. Craig got better and managed to get rid of all the post cards. > > PLEASE PASS ON NO! Don't pass this on. Delete this message and send email to the person who sent this and ask him/her to stop being stupid. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.7 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 17:27:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12798 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12727; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [194.112.59.90] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yqoGF-0005qQ-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:27:04 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980630012543.00947940@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:25:43 +0100 To: Steve From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" In-Reply-To: <359810B2.D480AC2E@cableinet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Tmb wrote: > >> PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO HELP THIS LITTLE GIRL >> >> Dear All, >> >> I just received this mail from a friend of mine in my College. Please This is almost certainly a hoax. Don't send this sort of thing on - if you *really* insist on doing so then spend the time to properly check it out first. Even after that - don't but there'll be no stopping everyone. Roll on the day when you need license (to have taken on baord certain things like spotting this trash) before getting net access. Manar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 17:39:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14460 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:39:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vortex.starix.net (syko@vortex.starix.net [208.219.83.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14373; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syko@sykotik.org) Received: from localhost (syko@localhost) by vortex.starix.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17281; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:37:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: vortex.starix.net: syko owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:37:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Dusk Auriel Sykotik X-Sender: syko@vortex.starix.net To: Gustavo Lozano Ibarra cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing problem with two ide cdroms In-Reply-To: <199806292117.OAA20047@academ02.maz.itesm.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You should make sure you cleared out any "conflicts" in the part of the installation program that defines irq channels. Either delete the device if its not needed, or change it's irq channel. Keep doing this until your down to 0 conflicts in all areas, then proceed with installation. This may be slightly different for you, since your installing from CD's. I installed from a boot floppy using an INET install. See if this works, if not you could always just disconnect one cd, install FreeBSD, and install the other CD after its all setup. /* * Matt Harris +++ Syko * BPSOFH, BIOFH, C, SQL, PERL +++ http://starix.technonet.net/~syko/ * FreeBSD SysAdmin +++ apocalypse.sykotik.org * IRC TechnoNet +++ irc.technonet.net * IRC Cabalnet +++ dark-temple.cabalnet.org */ On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Gustavo Lozano Ibarra wrote: > I was trying to install freebsd in a computer with two cdroms without > success... in the first Ide port I have a hard dis (master), in the second > ide port I have a cdr (master) and a cdrom(slave)... but when I try to > install freebsd from the freebsd cd... the installation program freeze in > the probing device section.. What can I do?Does Freebsd support two cd units > > ok, here is my hardware specification.. the second port is in the > motherboard and I have connected both cd units in this port... > both units share irq 15 and port 0x170... > Windows can use this shared irq and detect both units... but what about > freebsd... > > Greg Lehey told me that he has seven units: > === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp6) /var/backup 143 -> df > Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/wd0s1a 30206 27114 676 98% / > /dev/wd0s1e 1152422 460760 599470 43% /usr > /dev/wd2s1e 6051541 4799021 768397 86% /T > mfs:23 31391 502 28378 2% /tmp > /dev/sd0h 2047732 1391591 492323 74% /home > /dev/sd1e 3866510 1978168 1579022 56% /S > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > /dev/cd0a 647556 647556 0 100% /cdrom/1 > /dev/cd1a 600578 600578 0 100% /cdrom/2 > /dev/cd6a 64730 64730 0 100% /cdrom/7 > /dev/cd5a 38474 38474 0 100% /cdrom/6 > mfs:27911 198399 2 182526 0% /home/var/tmp > /dev/cd2a 653044 653044 0 100% /cdrom/3 > /dev/cd3a 641716 641716 0 100% /cdrom/4 > /dev/cd4a 530578 530578 0 100% /cdrom/5 > > I think that these units are scsi.. but what about ide ones... > > thanks for help... > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > | | GUSTAVO LOZANO IBARRA | > | ,,, | .-~ THE UNIX WIZARD ~-. | > | .#' `, , . ,,, +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > | ##. ,# #: .# $# ` |glozano@academ02.maz.itesm.mx| > | '#:.,#: '# .##. '''. |WebMaster at: | > | ##" `##' '#. `:##' | http://www.maz.itesm.mx | > | . ##' +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > | ```` | Check my cool page at: | > | | http://next-cec.maz.itesm.mx | > +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 18:44:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26303 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26260; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24737; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:43:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd024651; Mon Jun 29 18:43:49 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21042; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:43:46 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806300143.SAA21042@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention To: wheelman@nuc.net (Jaime Bozza) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:43:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: steve.a@cableinet.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000601bda3b2$472a42a0$333d31cc@electron.nuc.net> from "Jaime Bozza" at Jun 29, 98 06:04:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Not only does this have NOTHING to do with FreeBSD, it is a fraud, and if > you took some time to READ the message, you would realize that. The > website above is an excellent place to check up on things like this. Not only that, AlfaCell, Inc. has practically cured most cancer, and has completed stage III clinical trials in humans in support of their NDA filing later this year. Genetic engineering and biodiversity: you gotta love it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 18:48:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27397 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27309 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05995 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:47:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:47:42 -0700 Message-ID: <5982.899171262.1@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa" Content-Description: Blind Carbon Copy Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: Original Message To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com cc: Steve , "isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:56:36 PDT." <19980629165636.A23071@mooseriver.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:47:42 -0700 Message-ID: <5982.899171262@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" [ Redirected to just -isp; this doesn't need to be cross-posted any more ] Folks, please also remember that complaining about spam, especially when it's cross-posted spam and nobody bothers to edit their cc's these days, only multiplies the problem n-fold. When you see spam in one of our newsgroups, complain directly to the originator and DO NOT cc the mailing lists in question! That only results in the very foolish, self-defeating and all-too-typical situation where we get one spam and 14 spams about spam, adding insult to injury at the very best. I know that a good public indignation does the soul good at times, but that truly is an especially sub-optimal way of dealing with this particular problem! :) Thanks! - Jordan ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 20:06:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11737 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11679 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:05:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA24103; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980629194233.43206@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:42:33 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Andreas Klemm Cc: Thomas Dean , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: why I don't get any response ( was Re: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/nfs/nqnfs.h:93: field `udp_haddr' has incomplete type ) References: <19980623201342.C7501@klemm.gtn.com> <199806232030.NAA03603@ix.netcom.com> <19980623230253.E17953@klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <19980623230253.E17953@klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 11:02:53PM +0200 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andreas Klemm scribbled this message on Jun 23: > On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 01:30:25PM -0700, Thomas Dean wrote: > > I don't have that problem. > > > > Looks like you may have a corrupted file or need to depend in that > > part of the tree. > > Hmmm. > > Did a make includes to make sure everything is ok... could people stop passing this advice around? it will actually cause MORE problems than it solved... say I was building -current on my 2.2.6-stable machine... if I did a make includes before the buildworld, suddenly none of the bootstrap utils would work on my system because I don't happen to have ___error in /usr/lib/libc.a... but the headers I installed said I do... SO DON'T DO make includes TO FIX PROBLEMS!! -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 541 683 7109 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD Don't trust anyone you don't have the source for To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 22:33:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03493 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03455; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03704; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806300532.WAA03704@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Terry Lambert cc: wheelman@nuc.net (Jaime Bozza), steve.a@cableinet.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:43:46 -0000." <199806300143.SAA21042@usr04.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:32:41 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Not only does this have NOTHING to do with FreeBSD, it is a fraud, and if > > you took some time to READ the message, you would realize that. The > > website above is an excellent place to check up on things like this. > > Not only that, AlfaCell, Inc. has practically cured most cancer, > and has completed stage III clinical trials in humans in support > of their NDA filing later this year. If this is the blood flow restriction technique, then it's not a cure and only barely a symptomatic remedy. Cancer is entropy. You don't cure it; you can slow it. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 23:00:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07206 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07164; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA26359; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:29:24 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806300559.PAA26359@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mike Smith cc: Terry Lambert , wheelman@nuc.net (Jaime Bozza), steve.a@cableinet.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:32:41 MST." <199806300532.WAA03704@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:29:24 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If this is the blood flow restriction technique, then it's not a cure > and only barely a symptomatic remedy. > Cancer is entropy. You don't cure it; you can slow it. Bah.. quite the reverse.. If you define cancer as uncontrolled cell reproduction, then what is it doing? Constructing order out of disorder (eg turning raw materials into cells) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 23:23:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10109 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10099; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15511; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:23:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd015495; Mon Jun 29 23:23:33 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA27246; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:23:08 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806300623.XAA27246@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:23:08 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, wheelman@nuc.net, steve.a@cableinet.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806300532.WAA03704@dingo.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Jun 29, 98 10:32:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Not only does this have NOTHING to do with FreeBSD, it is a fraud, and if > > > you took some time to READ the message, you would realize that. The > > > website above is an excellent place to check up on things like this. > > > > Not only that, AlfaCell, Inc. has practically cured most cancer, > > and has completed stage III clinical trials in humans in support > > of their NDA filing later this year. > > If this is the blood flow restriction technique, then it's not a cure > and only barely a symptomatic remedy. > > Cancer is entropy. You don't cure it; you can slow it. Onconase is a derivative of a chemical produced by the North American Tree Frog. It has proven effective against pancreatic adenocarcinoma, malignant mesothelioma, renal cell carcinoma, and prostate cancer. In other words, every solid-body tumor that it has been tested against. Every solid-body tumor that it has been tested against. It is *not* the blood flow restriction technique. Welcome to the 90's. By 2037, we expect to have fully functional cryogenic biostasis and a full map of the human genome. Meanwhile, Geron, Inc. has identified the genes responsible for human telemerase encoding. Can you say "goodbye, aging"? PS: Human telomerase is present in 100% of all cancers, as the restriction enzyme responsible for the Hayflick limit has been identified, and is now targetable via monoclonol antibodies. We may, in fact, be the last generation to die. "Oh brave new world, that has such things in'it" -- Aldous Huxley And people wonder why I fight for "the right thing" in favor of "the expedient thing"... it's because I expect to have to live with my decisions for a long, long time. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 23:24:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10312 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:24:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (daemon@smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10294; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05172; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:24:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd005159; Mon Jun 29 23:24:13 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA27328; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:24:06 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806300624.XAA27328@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention To: doconnor@gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:24:06 +0000 (GMT) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, tlambert@primenet.com, wheelman@nuc.net, steve.a@cableinet.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806300559.PAA26359@cain.gsoft.com.au> from "Daniel O'Connor" at Jun 30, 98 03:29:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If this is the blood flow restriction technique, then it's not a cure > > and only barely a symptomatic remedy. > > Cancer is entropy. You don't cure it; you can slow it. > > Bah.. quite the reverse.. > If you define cancer as uncontrolled cell reproduction, then what is it > doing? > Constructing order out of disorder (eg turning raw materials into cells) Extropy/Enthalpy. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 23:32:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12341 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from myrddin.demon.co.uk (exim@myrddin.demon.co.uk [158.152.54.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12267 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dom@myrddin.demon.co.uk) Received: from dom by myrddin.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0yqdXd-0000gX-00; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:00:17 +0100 To: Greg Lehey Cc: yo , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing Freebsd with two cdrom in one machine (fwd) References: <19980629095243.R28872@freebie.lemis.com> From: Dom Mitchell In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey's message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:52:43 +0930" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:00:17 +0100 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey writes: > On Sunday, 28 June 1998 at 18:35:20 -0700, yo wrote: > > Does Freebsd support two cd units? > > Yes. I currently have seven on my machine: [snip] Are you using some kind of automounting to mount all those filesystems? If you are would you mind explaining to me how it's done? -- "A day without a core file is a day without sunshine." -- JB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 23:42:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14231 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:42:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14215 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:42:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA07385; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:11:29 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980630161128.X1880@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:11:28 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Dom Mitchell Cc: yo , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing Freebsd with two cdrom in one machine (fwd) References: <19980629095243.R28872@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Dom Mitchell on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 02:00:17PM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 29 June 1998 at 14:00:17 +0100, Dom Mitchell wrote: > Greg Lehey writes: >> On Sunday, 28 June 1998 at 18:35:20 -0700, yo wrote: >>> Does Freebsd support two cd units? >> >> Yes. I currently have seven on my machine: > > [snip] > > Are you using some kind of automounting to mount all those > filesystems? No. > If you are would you mind explaining to me how it's done? Well, I suppose I should be doing it, but I've always found more important things to do. Remind me some time. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 29 23:50:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15500 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15353; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:49:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA25062; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980629210803.39102@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:08:03 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Bruce Evans Cc: asami@FreeBSD.ORG, jb@cimlogic.com.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG, paulz@trantor.stuyts.nl Subject: Re: make buildworld needs root privs , why ? References: <199806260930.TAA03509@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199806260930.TAA03509@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 07:30:35PM +1000 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans scribbled this message on Jun 26: > > * > Shouldn't it be possible to builworld as a non-priviliged user and only > > * > make installworld as root ??? > > > >It should, IMO. > > It almost is. You have to set BINOWN, BINGRP, SHAREOWN and SHAREGRP > to something that you can shown to, and you have to have write permissions > to /usr/obj/your-usr-src or set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX to somewhere you can > write to. yep, you need TMAC{OWN,GRP} in there too... > >Didn't someone submit a patch to fix this very problem? Bruce? > > It's almost worked for a year or two. I don't know why I thought there yep... I've been buildworlding as a normaly user for around a year now.. > was no problem with schg flags. schg is currently used for a whole 2 > 2 files under ${WORLDTMP} (libc.so.M.m and libc_r.so.M.m), and buildworld > by non-root crashes about half way through when the first of these is > installed. nope, actually, install silently ignores setting the schg flag... at least it does on my 2.2.6-stable box... also, buildworld is useful to get the -current environment if you need to test/build kernels... personally I prefer to build -current kernels on my k6/200 than my 486/66dx2 -current box... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 541 683 7109 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD Don't trust anyone you don't have the source for To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 00:10:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18471 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18394 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22363; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:15:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:15:06 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Julian Elischer cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Draft manpages available for review In-Reply-To: <3597E0C8.237C228A@whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Julian Elischer wrote: > Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > I have written a set of manpages for my new driver framework for FreeBSD. > > If anyone is interested in reviewing them, you can find them at: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/man9.diff > > > > Just apply the diff to src/share/man/man9 and type make install. > > > > > How much have you looked at what NetBSD are moving towards? (have) > > Jason's work looks quite good (what I have seen of it) Do you mean NetBSD-current's version of config.new (kern/subr_autoconf.c)? I looked at this about a year ago when I first started thinking about the requirements for loadable drivers and dynamic instancing of devices. At the time, it seemed to be very tightly linked to the idea of having everything described in the kernel config file which doesn't really allow the loading of drivers which the kernel doesn't already know about. I think that the framework that I have now fits my needs much better than config.new. In addition, with the extendable device interface code which I recently committed, I believe that my system is flexible enough to cope with most (all?) of the different types of bus in modern computers. I may provide the config.new API as a porting aid to allow easy sharing of drivers with BSDI and NetBSD but I don't think this is an optimal solution as drivers configured in this way will not be unloadable. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 00:14:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19073 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:14:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mooseriver.com (dynamic11.pm01.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19001; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA27291; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980630001323.A27143@mooseriver.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:13:23 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Terry Lambert , Mike Smith Cc: wheelman@nuc.net, steve.a@cableinet.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention Reply-To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com References: <199806300532.WAA03704@dingo.cdrom.com> <199806300623.XAA27246@usr01.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806300623.XAA27246@usr01.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 06:23:08AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 06:23:08AM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > And people wonder why I fight for "the right thing" in favor of "the > expedient thing"... it's because I expect to have to live with my > decisions for a long, long time. Yes, but think about it Terry, if everything was done in an expedient manor instead of the proper manor and you lived for a very long time you would have the joy of saying "I told you so" to legions of clueless bozos. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.7 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 01:23:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02024 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:23:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01872 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 01:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.0/1998052000) with ESMTP id KAA12089 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:20:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (vodix.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.247.43]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.0/1998060300) with ESMTP id KAA21478 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:20:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <35989FE7.48162DAB@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:20:55 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger Organization: Uni-SB, Lehrstuhl für Rechnerarchitektur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel panic References: <98062619072801.00275@Old-Man.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alexander Leidinger wrote: [kernel output] > this happens between > IP Filter: ... Logging = enabled > and > Changing root device to sd0s2a > > the only changes I´ve made: > - CVSup from ~Jun 4 to Jun 26 > - removed parallel bus because of printing problems > - added lpt0 > - added NO_F00F_Hack (I´ve a PII) I've reverted to my previous configuration (ppbus, no NO_..._HACK, no lpt0) and it still didn't boot with the new sources. That's frustating. HELP!!! Bye, Alexander. -- 2^{F_{h+1}-1} z^{F_{h+2}-1} + 2^{F_{h+1}-2} L_{h-1} z^{F_{h+2}} + complicated terms + 2^{h-1} z^{2^h - 2} + z^{2^h - 1} Donald E. Knuth, "The Art of Computer Programming" http://fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de/~netchild mailto:netchild@studcs.uni-sb.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 02:09:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08533 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08486 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22269 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:12:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:12:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Retrieving routing table via sysctl Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have this question as in Subject. All I know thus far is that there are sysctl's which are named appropriately, but what they return is a series of struct rt_msghdr, which doesn't contain the struct sockaddr of the route itself and of the gateway... (I'm speaking here about: int mib[]={CTL_NET,PF_ROUTE,0,0,NET_RT_DUMP}; ) I'd like to be able to do this _without_ resorting to kread and friends, so that it works on a stripped kernel. TIA for any pointers. Andrzej Bialecki --------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@nask.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. --------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 02:13:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08987 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.tfs.net (as1-p93.tfs.net [139.146.210.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08898; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:12:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbryant@unix.tfs.net) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by unix.tfs.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA28972; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 04:11:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199806300911.EAA28972@unix.tfs.net> Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention In-Reply-To: <199806300623.XAA27246@usr01.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jun 30, 98 06:23:08 am" To: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 04:11:45 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: jbryant@unix.tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-files: The truth is that the X-Files is fiction X-Republican: The best kind!!! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Jun 20 11:57:05 CDT 1998 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply: > Meanwhile, Geron, Inc. has identified the genes responsible for human > telemerase encoding. Can you say "goodbye, aging"? sounds like one hell of a weapon. can you say premature aging, how about eugenics? i bet some people in yugoslavia would love to have it, maybe even alabama, or south carolina... > We may, in fact, be the last generation to die. or the first of many. > "Oh brave new world, that has such things in'it" > -- Aldous Huxley note the cc to -chat. why not move it to the To: line.. jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 02:23:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10873 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10789 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:23:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id CAA19178; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980630022207.63182@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:22:07 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Dom Mitchell Cc: Greg Lehey , yo , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing Freebsd with two cdrom in one machine (fwd) References: <19980629095243.R28872@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Dom Mitchell on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 02:00:17PM +0100 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dom Mitchell scribbled this message on Jun 29: > Greg Lehey writes: > > On Sunday, 28 June 1998 at 18:35:20 -0700, yo wrote: > > > Does Freebsd support two cd units? > > > > Yes. I currently have seven on my machine: > > [snip] > > Are you using some kind of automounting to mount all those > filesystems? If you are would you mind explaining to me how it's > done? I am to mount my five cdrom drives... here's a snippit from my amd.map.cdrom file: cdrom type:=auto;\ fs:=${map};\ pref:=${key}/ cdrom/0 type:=program;\ fs:=/mnts/cdrom0;\ mount:="/sbin/mount mount /usr/anon/mnts/cdrom0";\ unmount:="/sbin/umount umount /usr/anon/mnts/cdrom0" and this is how I run amd: amd -a /usr/anon/amd -k i386 -d nike.efn.org -l syslog /usr/anon/amd /etc/amd.ma p.cdrom hope this is all you need... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 541 683 7109 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD Don't trust anyone you don't have the source for To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 04:31:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02447 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 04:31:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02361 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 04:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) id NAA03201 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:30:47 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:30:47 +0200 (MEST) Organization: university of bayreuth From: Werner Griessl To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: buildworld broken Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Werner Griessl Date: 30-Jun-98 Time: 13:29:08 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- Cannot buildworld with sources from today (30/6/98): ===> sbin/mount_nfs cc -O -pipe -DNFS -I/spare2/F/src/sbin/mount_nfs/../mount -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /spare2/F/src/sbin/mount_nfs/mount_nfs.c In file included from /spare2/F/src/sbin/mount_nfs/mount_nfs.c:73: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:43: opt_nfs.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Werner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 04:52:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06081 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 04:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from engulf.net (brandon@engulf.com [207.96.124.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06058 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 04:52:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brandon@engulf.net) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by engulf.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA13320; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:56:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Brandon Lockhart To: Jim Bryant cc: Terry Lambert , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention In-Reply-To: <199806300911.EAA28972@unix.tfs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :note the cc to -chat. why not move it to the To: line.. But many of us here on -current, who can't have our mailboxes bogged down anymore are enjoying this enlightenment. ,-----------------------------------------------------------------. | //// "Anything I say represents only my opinion." | | (o o) / | | ,---ooO--(_)--Ooo---------------------------------------------, | | | BRANDON LOCKHART | | | `-------------------------------------------------------------' | | brandon.lockhart@usinternetworking.com brandon@engulf.net | | Work: (410) 897-4551 Pager: (888) xxx-xxxx | `-----------------------------------------------------------------' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 05:12:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08240 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 05:12:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (widefw.csl.sony.co.jp [133.138.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08109 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 05:11:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kjc@csl.sony.co.jp) Received: from hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (root@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp [43.27.98.57]) by widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) with ESMTP id VAA18680; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:11:45 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kjc@[127.0.0.1]) by hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W/hotaka/98021914) with ESMTP id VAA03317; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:11:44 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199806301211.VAA03317@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Retrieving routing table via sysctl In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:12:08 +0200." Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:11:43 +0900 From: Kenjiro Cho Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrzej said: >> I have this question as in Subject. All I know thus far is that there are >> sysctl's which are named appropriately, but what they return is a series >> of struct rt_msghdr, which doesn't contain the struct sockaddr of the >> route itself and of the gateway... (I'm speaking here about: sockaddrs come after struct rt_msghdr. The format is identical to that of a routing socket. Richard Stevens describes it in detail in UNIX Network Programming vol.1 2ed chapter 17. --Kenjiro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 05:21:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09656 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 05:21:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09641 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 05:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-2-08.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.72]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id VAA17738; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:47:05 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <3598D7F6.7A276757@camtech.net.au> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:50:06 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: joelh@gnu.org CC: garbanzo@hooked.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <35977183.F5CA73F1@camtech.net.au> <199806291447.JAA02569@detlev.UUCP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now the use of a different autoexec.bat / config.sys may help me with what I'd like to do (and Terry with his lab of machines). Possibly some combination of memory manager with appropriate switches might result in unmodifed vectors. Maybe MS uses a memory manager anyway if you have no alternate config.sys / autoexec.bat listed. If I have any luck messing with this I'll let people know. Joel Ray Holveck wrote: > > >>>> So much for the lab full of Windows machines that can be booted into > >>>> FreeBSD by double-clicking an icon on the desktop. > >>> It doesn't work that way. You've always had to launch it from a DOS > >>> session, meaning you had to shut down to DOS and then run > >>> fbsdboot.exe. I can plainly see you've never actually tried what you > >>> are now advocating. :) > >> You can do that within Windows. Win95 still uses the old standby "PIF" > >> files for DOS apps, and one of those settings is to force it to run in DOS > >> mode. > > BUT THIS DOESN'T WORK!!!! Try it. > > The shutdown to DOS results in modified vectors which results in > > a panic if "options VM86" is in your kernel AND you are running > > current. > > I'm not in a position to test this, but I will comment that if you > mark the radio button for a different config.sys / autoexec.bat, then > Win95 will do a warm boot before loading the program. There may be a > problem running win /b after that. (win /b is what restores your old > config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then reboots the computer again after > your program has finished. It is automatically placed at the end of > autoexec.bat in the per-program version.) > > Happy hacking, > joelh > > -- > Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org - http://www.wp.com/piquan > Fourth law of programming: > Anything that can go wrong wi > sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 06:10:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16517 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16377 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-2-08.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.72]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA24063; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:35:51 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <3598E364.17234C59@camtech.net.au> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:38:52 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu, l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it CC: FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: Any news for Vibra16X owners ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know of drivers that work for FreeBSD current for Vibra16X cards ? I tried Luigi's patch but got stuck as the PnP code would probe my card as "pcm1" when I had "pcm0" in the kernel. If I put "pcm1" in the kernel, the PnP code would probe it as "pcm2". Just information on how to get around that would be useful. I have "options USERCONFIG_BOOT" in the kernel to configure the PnP device on boot up without having to "boot -c". The card is a Creative Labs card which uses IRQ 5, DMA 1, high DMA 3 and ports 0x220 0x330. It's not on this machine so I can't currently show you the exact entries in my kernel config file but from memory (and reference to LINT) it would have been: device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 vector pcmintr I have removed all other sound devices from the kernel including the controller line. What am I doing wrong ? -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 06:27:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19515 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com [205.162.1.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19501 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jas@flyingfox.com) Received: (from jas@localhost) by biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09844; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199806301327.GAA09844@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> To: abial@nask.pl, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Retrieving routing table via sysctl Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrzej Bialecki writes: > There are sysctl's which are named appropriately, but what they return > is a series of struct rt_msghdr, which doesn't contain the struct > sockaddr of the route itself and of the gateway... (I'm speaking here > about: > > int mib[]={CTL_NET,PF_ROUTE,0,0,NET_RT_DUMP}; > ) > > I'd like to be able to do this _without_ resorting to kread and friends, > so that it works on a stripped kernel. The sockaddr's immediately follow the struct rt_msghdr; flags in the struct rt_msghdr tell you which sockaddr's are present. Beware: the sockaddr for a netmask is only 8 bytes long. When in doubt, check against the kernel source, and/or carefully eyeball several sets of sample output. This is not for the faint of heart, but it can be made to work. All the above is based on -stable; your -current mileage may vary. Jim Shankland Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 06:39:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21654 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:39:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21645 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05095; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:42:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:42:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Jim Shankland cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Retrieving routing table via sysctl In-Reply-To: <199806301327.GAA09844@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Jim Shankland wrote: > Andrzej Bialecki writes: > > > There are sysctl's which are named appropriately, but what they return > > is a series of struct rt_msghdr, which doesn't contain the struct > > sockaddr of the route itself and of the gateway... (I'm speaking here > > about: > > > > int mib[]={CTL_NET,PF_ROUTE,0,0,NET_RT_DUMP}; > > ) > > > > I'd like to be able to do this _without_ resorting to kread and friends, > > so that it works on a stripped kernel. > > The sockaddr's immediately follow the struct rt_msghdr; flags in the > struct rt_msghdr tell you which sockaddr's are present. Beware: the > sockaddr for a netmask is only 8 bytes long. When in doubt, check > against the kernel source, and/or carefully eyeball several sets of > sample output. This is not for the faint of heart, but it can be > made to work. Thanks to all who replied - I'll try this. Andrzej Bialecki --------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@nask.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. --------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 06:40:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21878 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:40:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21807 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19528; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199806301339.JAA19528@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Retrieving routing table via sysctl In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > I have this question as in Subject. All I know thus far is that there are > sysctl's which are named appropriately, but what they return is a series > of struct rt_msghdr, which doesn't contain the struct sockaddr of the > route itself and of the gateway... The message header includes a bitfield which indicates which of the route's addresses are included in the message. They immediately follow the header in MSB-first order. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 06:45:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22898 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA22860 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id OAA09912; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:14:18 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806301214.OAA09912@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Any news for Vibra16X owners ? To: thyerm@camtech.net.au (Matthew Thyer) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:14:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu, l.rizzo@iet.unipi.it, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3598E364.17234C59@camtech.net.au> from "Matthew Thyer" at Jun 30, 98 10:38:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does anyone know of drivers that work for FreeBSD current for > Vibra16X cards ? > > I tried Luigi's patch but got stuck as the PnP code would probe my > card as "pcm1" when I had "pcm0" in the kernel. this is the way it is supposed to work. Please read the README file, you device is /dev/audio1 etc. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 07:10:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27240 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27171 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from [208.2.87.10] (user10.dataplex.net [208.2.87.10]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09579; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:09:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:04:39 -0500 To: Werner Griessl From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: buildworld broken Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 6:30 AM -0500 6/30/98, Werner Griessl wrote: >---------------------------------- >E-Mail: Werner Griessl >Date: 30-Jun-98 >Time: 13:29:08 > >This message was sent by XFMail >---------------------------------- > >Cannot buildworld with sources from today (30/6/98): > >===> sbin/mount_nfs >cc -O -pipe -DNFS -I/spare2/F/src/sbin/mount_nfs/../mount >-I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /spare2/F/src/sbin/mount_nfs/mount_nfs.c >In file included from /spare2/F/src/sbin/mount_nfs/mount_nfs.c:73: >/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:43: opt_nfs.h: No such file or >directory >*** Error code 1 I don't understand WHY kernel configuration options (opt_nfs.h) are included as a part of the subsystem structural declarations. If opt_nfs.h really should be included from nfs.h, shouldn't it, at least, be conditioned by "#ifdef KERNEL" ? The same problem also appears in the linux module. Richard Wackerbarth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 09:01:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13974 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13962 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:01:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA08147 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:01:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: ben@rosengart.com To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world dies in procfs with source from five minutes ago Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ===> lkm/procfs "/usr/src/lkm/procfs/Makefile", line 13: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 09:50:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21017 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20913 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA22327; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:49:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: ben@rosengart.com To: Terry Lambert cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention In-Reply-To: <199806300623.XAA27246@usr01.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Terry Lambert wrote: > "Oh brave new world, that has such things in'it" > -- Aldous Huxley ITYM Miranda, from Shakespeare's _The Tempest_. Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 10:05:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23164 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa4-47.ix.netcom.com [207.93.136.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23154 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:05:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00358; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:05:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806301705.KAA00358@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Physical Memory Allocation Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This may not be a question for -current, but, it pertains to memory allocation. I don't know if this happens on a non-current system. I do not understand the shift of memory allocation between the various categories used by top. Running a process which handles memory properly should have little effect on memory allocation after it exits. If I start netscape 3.01 and exit, there seems to be a permanent shift of memory allocation from free to active and wired. This does not happen with a process that allocates and then frees memory. I have attached information picked from top while these events transpired and the code I used to allocate/free memory. What is the definition of the memory allocation numbers in top? I am running -current: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Jun 19 09:15:17 PDT 1998 root@celebris:/usr/src/sys/compile/CELEBRIS-SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz cost 2537 ns CPU: Pentium/P54C (586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x3bf real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) avail memory = 95272960 (93040K bytes) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 ============================================================ Use top to get memory use values. After boot, running Emacs, reading mail, edit this text file. Mem: 13M Active, 6200K Inact, 8500K Wired, 508K Cache, 3989K Buf, 65M Free Start Netscape. Mem: 17M Active, 7992K Inact, 9232K Wired, 808K Cache, 4621K Buf, 58M Free Access a file with Netscape. Mem: 19M Active, 8044K Inact, 9444K Wired, 760K Cache, 4813K Buf, 56M Free Exit Netscape. Mem: 15M Active, 8060K Inact, 10M Wired, 728K Cache, 5469K Buf, 59M Free Start Netscape and access a file. Mem: 20M Active, 8296K Inact, 10M Wired, 504K Cache, 5469K Buf, 54M Free Exit Netscape. Mem: 16M Active, 8296K Inact, 10M Wired, 504K Cache, 5469K Buf, 59M Free Start Netscape and access a file. Mem: 19M Active, 8300K Inact, 10M Wired, 504K Cache, 5469K Buf, 55M Free Access the Alta Vista search page. Mem: 19M Active, 8336K Inact, 10M Wired, 552K Cache, 5610K Buf, 55M Free Exit Netscape. Mem: 16M Active, 8380K Inact, 10M Wired, 552K Cache, 5588K Buf, 58M Free Start memoryTest.c, allocate 2 each 10MB blocks and write to them. Mem: 36M Active, 8364K Inact, 10M Wired, 540K Cache, 5759K Buf, 38M Free After memoryTest.c exits. Mem: 16M Active, 8360K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5759K Buf, 58M Free Start memoryTest.c, allocate 2 each 10MB blocks and write to them. Mem: 36M Active, 8372K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5759K Buf, 38M Free After memoryTest.c exits. Mem: 16M Active, 8360K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5759K Buf, 58M Free Start memoryTest.c, allocate 2 each 10MB blocks and write to them. Mem: 36M Active, 8388K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5760K Buf, 38M Free After memoryTest.c exits. Mem: 16M Active, 8376K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5760K Buf, 58M Free ============================================================ /* memTest.c - Just use some memory. calloc memory and write into it. Syntax: memTest */ #include #include #define ONE_MB 1024*1024 main(int argc, char **argv) { unsigned int testSize, jdx; unsigned char *buf1, *buf2; if (argc != 2) { printf("Usage: %s \n",argv[0]); exit(0); } if (sscanf(argv[1], "%u", &testSize) != 1) { printf("Error in argument: %s\n",argv[0]); exit(0); } printf("allocatinging %uMB\n",testSize); buf1 = (unsigned char *)calloc(1, testSize*ONE_MB); if (!buf1) { perror("calloc1"); exit(0); } buf2 = (unsigned char *)calloc(1, testSize*ONE_MB); if (!buf2) { perror("calloc2"); exit(0); } printf("Testing %uMB at %08x and %08x = %u\n", testSize, buf1, buf2, (unsigned int)(buf2-buf1)); for (jdx=0; jdx Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24786 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24779 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06654; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806301717.KAA06654@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Retrieving routing table via sysctl In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:12:08 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:17:36 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > I have this question as in Subject. All I know thus far is that there are > sysctl's which are named appropriately, but what they return is a series > of struct rt_msghdr, which doesn't contain the struct sockaddr of the > route itself and of the gateway... (I'm speaking here about: > > int mib[]={CTL_NET,PF_ROUTE,0,0,NET_RT_DUMP}; > ) What's missing? You have noticed that you get *more* than just the rt_msghdr struct back, right? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 10:22:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25741 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25711 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:22:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20417; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:22:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199806301722.NAA20417@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Jim Shankland Cc: abial@nask.pl, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Retrieving routing table via sysctl In-Reply-To: <199806301327.GAA09844@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> References: <199806301327.GAA09844@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > struct rt_msghdr tell you which sockaddr's are present. Beware: the > sockaddr for a netmask is only 8 bytes long. That's because it really isn't a sockaddr at all -- it's just a byte count followed by a bit mask. The only reason you don't see three-byte masks for IP /8 routes is the alignment padding. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 10:43:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29879 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:43:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bb.cc.wa.us (chris@bb.cc.wa.us [134.39.181.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29868 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@bb.cc.wa.us) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by bb.cc.wa.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA21052 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:38:44 GMT Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Coleman To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: System won't boot after Install. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a dual processor PII with 5 Seagate Drives and a Symbios UW and a Symbios N controller and a Adaptec 2940UW controller. After installing the 3.0-SNAP found on ftp.freebsd.org, it won't boot after it installs. It installs just fine. But then it can't seem to find the FreeBSD partition. Any suggestions? (I am not on this list) Christopher J. Coleman (whyareyou@lookingforme.com) Computer Support Analyst I (509)-762-6341 FreeBSD Book Project: http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 10:48:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00886 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com [205.162.1.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00873 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jas@flyingfox.com) Received: (from jas@localhost) by biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA14567; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:49:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199806301749.KAA14567@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Retrieving routing table via sysctl Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garrett Wollman writes: > < said: > > > struct rt_msghdr tell you which sockaddr's are present. Beware: the > > sockaddr for a netmask is only 8 bytes long. > > That's because it really isn't a sockaddr at all -- it's just a byte > count followed by a bit mask. The only reason you don't see three-byte > masks for IP /8 routes is the alignment padding. OK, I'll buy that. I guess I got fooled by net/route.c consistently declaring these things as 'struct sockaddr' :-). Jim Shankland Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 11:14:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05467 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.ny.otec.com (bright.ny.otec.com [209.3.16.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05437 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.ny.otec.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00872; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:14:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.ny.otec.com: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:14:38 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.ny.otec.com To: Thomas Dean cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Physical Memory Allocation In-Reply-To: <199806301705.KAA00358@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The kernel has some data structures that can be extended but NOT released, specifically mbufs and probably certain data pertaining to page tables and such. which might explain the shift into Wired state. you can also see how the vm/buffer system has started to cache more objects, the increase in size of the buffers impacts on the amount of memory available elsewhere. netscape hits a lot more "things" than a simple memory allocation program causing a switch in the strategies used by the kernel. the change in "Active" pages is odd though... are you running NFS or some client/server process on the machine as well? -Alfred On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Thomas Dean wrote: > This may not be a question for -current, but, it pertains to memory > allocation. I don't know if this happens on a non-current system. > > I do not understand the shift of memory allocation between the various > categories used by top. Running a process which handles memory > properly should have little effect on memory allocation after it > exits. If I start netscape 3.01 and exit, there seems to be a > permanent shift of memory allocation from free to active and wired. > This does not happen with a process that allocates and then frees > memory. > > I have attached information picked from top while these events > transpired and the code I used to allocate/free memory. > > What is the definition of the memory allocation numbers in top? > > I am running -current: > > FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Jun 19 09:15:17 PDT 1998 > root@celebris:/usr/src/sys/compile/CELEBRIS-SMP > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz cost 2537 ns > CPU: Pentium/P54C (586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 > Features=0x3bf > real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) > avail memory = 95272960 (93040K bytes) > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard > cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 > cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 > io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 > > ============================================================ > > Use top to get memory use values. > After boot, running Emacs, reading mail, edit this text file. > Mem: 13M Active, 6200K Inact, 8500K Wired, 508K Cache, 3989K Buf, 65M Free > > Start Netscape. > Mem: 17M Active, 7992K Inact, 9232K Wired, 808K Cache, 4621K Buf, 58M Free > Access a file with Netscape. > Mem: 19M Active, 8044K Inact, 9444K Wired, 760K Cache, 4813K Buf, 56M Free > Exit Netscape. > Mem: 15M Active, 8060K Inact, 10M Wired, 728K Cache, 5469K Buf, 59M Free > > Start Netscape and access a file. > Mem: 20M Active, 8296K Inact, 10M Wired, 504K Cache, 5469K Buf, 54M Free > Exit Netscape. > Mem: 16M Active, 8296K Inact, 10M Wired, 504K Cache, 5469K Buf, 59M Free > > Start Netscape and access a file. > Mem: 19M Active, 8300K Inact, 10M Wired, 504K Cache, 5469K Buf, 55M Free > Access the Alta Vista search page. > Mem: 19M Active, 8336K Inact, 10M Wired, 552K Cache, 5610K Buf, 55M Free > Exit Netscape. > Mem: 16M Active, 8380K Inact, 10M Wired, 552K Cache, 5588K Buf, 58M Free > > > Start memoryTest.c, allocate 2 each 10MB blocks and write to them. > Mem: 36M Active, 8364K Inact, 10M Wired, 540K Cache, 5759K Buf, 38M Free > After memoryTest.c exits. > Mem: 16M Active, 8360K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5759K Buf, 58M Free > > Start memoryTest.c, allocate 2 each 10MB blocks and write to them. > Mem: 36M Active, 8372K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5759K Buf, 38M Free > After memoryTest.c exits. > Mem: 16M Active, 8360K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5759K Buf, 58M Free > > Start memoryTest.c, allocate 2 each 10MB blocks and write to them. > Mem: 36M Active, 8388K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5760K Buf, 38M Free > After memoryTest.c exits. > Mem: 16M Active, 8376K Inact, 10M Wired, 536K Cache, 5760K Buf, 58M Free > > ============================================================ > > /* > memTest.c - Just use some memory. > > calloc memory and write into it. > > Syntax: memTest > > */ > > #include > #include > > #define ONE_MB 1024*1024 > > main(int argc, char **argv) { > unsigned int testSize, jdx; > unsigned char *buf1, *buf2; > > if (argc != 2) { > printf("Usage: %s \n",argv[0]); > exit(0); > } > > if (sscanf(argv[1], "%u", &testSize) != 1) { > printf("Error in argument: %s\n",argv[0]); > exit(0); > } > > printf("allocatinging %uMB\n",testSize); > buf1 = (unsigned char *)calloc(1, testSize*ONE_MB); > if (!buf1) { > perror("calloc1"); > exit(0); > } > buf2 = (unsigned char *)calloc(1, testSize*ONE_MB); > if (!buf2) { > perror("calloc2"); > exit(0); > } > printf("Testing %uMB at %08x and %08x = %u\n", > testSize, buf1, buf2, (unsigned int)(buf2-buf1)); > for (jdx=0; jdx for (jdx=0; jdx free(buf1); > free(buf2); > } > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 11:17:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05966 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguars.cableinet.net (jaguars-int.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05946 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve.a@cableinet.co.uk) Received: (qmail 8194 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1998 18:16:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cableinet.co.uk) (194.117.145.25) by jaguars with SMTP; 30 Jun 1998 18:16:53 -0000 Message-ID: <35992AD7.D77BB801@cableinet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:13:43 +0100 From: Steve X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am really sorry for the mail, it sounded genuine, you lot might have had these mails before but in around five years I have been connected I have not had any like this... It makes you think just how sick these people are by sending a mail like this out, so sympathetic people can relay this message and get people angry. > If you ever send something to one of our mailing lists again, I will > personally ban you for life. > > - Jordan If you want to remove me from the mailing lists thats for you to decide, like I said it sounded genuine. Again sorry for any upset I caused. Steve. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 11:48:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12022 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12011 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29225; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd029182; Tue Jun 30 18:38:21 1998 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:38:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Thomas Dean cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Physical Memory Allocation In-Reply-To: <199806301705.KAA00358@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Thomas Dean wrote: > This may not be a question for -current, but, it pertains to memory > allocation. I don't know if this happens on a non-current system. > > I do not understand the shift of memory allocation between the various > categories used by top. Running a process which handles memory > properly should have little effect on memory allocation after it > exits. If I start netscape 3.01 and exit, there seems to be a > permanent shift of memory allocation from free to active and wired. > This does not happen with a process that allocates and then frees > memory. > > I have attached information picked from top while these events > transpired and the code I used to allocate/free memory. > > What is the definition of the memory allocation numbers in top? > A remember that netscape asks the Xserver to load TONS of stuff and it is just held there, even after the app itself has quit. also, contents of files are held in varius queues for a while including netscape itself. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 11:55:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12900 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12892 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: from localhost (chrisc@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27914 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:58:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman X-Sender: chrisc@vnode To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Not booting after install. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed the 3.0-SNAP from the ftp.freebsd.org and after it installed, it wouldn't find the volumes. I have symbios and adaptec controllers and seagate disks. Do I need to get a more current version? It installed just fine, but it won't boot after wards. -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 12:14:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15376 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from telekinesis.telekinesis.org (wd@d178.mvn1.interaccess.com [204.148.82.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15351 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wd@dal.net) Received: from localhost (wd@localhost) by telekinesis.telekinesis.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA10649; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:16:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: telekinesis.telekinesis.org: wd owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:16:04 -0500 (CDT) From: White_Dragon X-Sender: wd@telekinesis.telekinesis.org To: Matthew Thyer cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any news for Vibra16X owners ? In-Reply-To: <3598E364.17234C59@camtech.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Matthew Thyer wrote: :>Does anyone know of drivers that work for FreeBSD current for :>Vibra16X cards ? :> :>I tried Luigi's patch but got stuck as the PnP code would probe my :>card as "pcm1" when I had "pcm0" in the kernel. :> :>If I put "pcm1" in the kernel, the PnP code would probe it as "pcm2". :> [...] :> :>What am I doing wrong ? :> Nothing serious, your sound card does work and apparently is supported, what you need to do in /dev is symlink audio1 to audio, dsp1 to dsp, and etc for the rest of the devices, then everything should work fine. This is all well documented in the README files (/sys/i386/isa/snd [README and CARDS]) -wd [%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%] [%] Chip Norkus(RL), White_Dragon(IRC), wd@webmaster.com(e-mail) [%] [%] http://www.telekinesis.org / ftp://ftp.telekinesis.org/pub/wd [%] [%] IRC Administrator, opus.bc.ca.dal.net (ports 6660-6669, 7000) [%] [%] Check out DALnet today! http://www.dal.net [%] [%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 12:21:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16477 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:21:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from krabi.mbp.ee (krabi.mbp.ee [194.204.12.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16456 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:21:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauri@krabi.mbp.ee) Received: from localhost (mauri@localhost) by krabi.mbp.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA22785 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:21:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mauri@krabi.mbp.ee) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:21:30 +0300 (EEST) From: Lauri Laupmaa To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I'm using cvsup.ee.freebsd.org as default site in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile, but after make world it will be reset to cvsup.freebsd.org. It would be nice to have a place (/etc/make.conf ?) to define my location and get files from ftp/cvsup/www/current.??.freebsd.org accordingly. _____________ Lauri Laupmaa mauri@mbp.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 13:17:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26449 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26440; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806302017.NAA26440@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: make world dies in procfs with source from five minutes ago In-Reply-To: from Snob Art Genre at "Jun 30, 98 12:01:35 pm" To: ben@rosengart.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Snob Art Genre who wrote: > ===> lkm/procfs "/usr/src/lkm/procfs/Makefile", line 13: Need an > operator > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue I've fixed that one, but now it dies in the linux lkm :( Doesn't anybody TEST their changes before commit anymore ?? :( :( -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 13:55:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03321 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (fullermd@shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03306 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@shell.futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13758; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:54:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980630155455.41627@futuresouth.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:54:55 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Lauri Laupmaa on Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 10:21:30PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 10:21:30PM +0300, Lauri Laupmaa woke me up to tell me: > Hi > > I'm using cvsup.ee.freebsd.org as default site in > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile, but after make world it will > be reset to cvsup.freebsd.org. > It would be nice to have a place (/etc/make.conf ?) to define my > location and get files from ftp/cvsup/www/current.??.freebsd.org > accordingly. I never use /usr/share/blahblah/supfile; on my personal machine, I have /usr/local/etc/cvsup/supfile, and on the servers we just use /usr/src/supfile (both, of course, being created/copied and customized for our uses). *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 14:16:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06138 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06066 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yr7kV-0004fD-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:15:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:15:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Lauri Laupmaa cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > Hi > > I'm using cvsup.ee.freebsd.org as default site in > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile, but after make world it will > be reset to cvsup.freebsd.org. Yes, those are example files. You are supposed to make a copy and work with that. > It would be nice to have a place (/etc/make.conf ?) to define my Your home directory perhaps? Just make a copy of the example supfile into your home directory and use that. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 14:35:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09127 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09100 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:35:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA05124; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:38:05 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199806302138.RAA05124@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806281653.JAA19780@antipodes.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Jun 28, 98 09:53:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Mike Smith had to walk into mine and say: > > floating around. One of them, which I think is a DSI, refuses to > > run the FreeBSD boot block. (I say 'I think it's a DSI' because the > > stupid machine doesn't have any identifying vendor markings on it > > whatsoever.) > > Eyecch. Well, yeah. I looked at it some more today. There's an FCC compliance sticker on the bottom that says 'NOTEBOOK COMPUTER' and that's it. There's also a sticker that says 'Model 7200T' or something. It's a real no-name laptop. > > You can actually configure the thing to boot from internal disk, > > floppy or CD-ROM. When I put the FreeBSD install floppy or CD-ROM > > in and try to boot, it says 'Loading boot block from FLOPPY: FAILED' > > or 'Loading boot block from CD-ROM: FAILED' and moves on to the > > internal disk and loads LoseNT. > > > > As a hack, I dug up a set of MS-DOG 6.22 floppies and put an > > ATAPI CD-ROM driver on one of them so that I could boot the laptop > > in MS-DOG and access the FreeBSD install CD. From there I ran > > fbsdboot.exe, and successfully loaded the install kernel. > > > > Clearly, the machine likes the MS-DOG bootstrap and the LoseNT > > bootstrap, but not ours. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm clever > > enough to find the exact problem myself, and I can't really load > > FreeBSD on this machine since they need it with LoseNT (grrrr). > > Just out of curiosity, what happens if you take the "MSDOS" signature > off the top of a DOS boot floppy and drop it onto the FreeBSD image? > (I realise the resulting bootblock won't work, but it would tell us > something about the criteria they're using.) I actually got it to work doing something like that. The following patch to sys/i386/boot/biosboot/start.S in FreeBSd 2.2.6 makes it happy: --- start.S 1998/06/30 19:59:50 1.1 +++ start.S 1998/06/30 21:15:07 1.2 @@ -75,6 +75,17 @@ .text ENTRY(boot1) + /* + * XXX This is here to make certain really brain-damaged + * machines happy. Apparently, MS-DOG boot sectors start + * with a short jump instruction followed by a no-op, and + * some machines just refuse to load any boot block that + * doesn't start the same way. + */ + jmp microsoft_sucks + nop +microsoft_sucks: + /* * start (aka boot1) is loaded at 0x0:0x7c00 but we want 0x7c0:0 * ljmp to the next instruction to adjust %cs I disassembled the boot block from an MS-DOG floppy and it has the following structure: - short jump to 'foo' - no-op instruction - the string "MSDOS5.0" (8 bytes) - some junk (33 bytes) - the string "NO NAME FAT12 " (19 bytes) - foo (start of boot block code) Basically, there's a jump and a no-op, about 60 bytes of stuff, then the start of the boot code. The jump skips over the 60 bytes of whatever. Initially I duplicated all of this in start.S and yes, it worked. But I wanted to see how much of this was really necessary so I started whittling things down. It turns out that all you really need to make the bastard happy is the jump and the no-op. I don't know if this is something to do with the BIOS or something peculiar about how the x86 CPUs work, but with these three bytes, it loads the FreeBSD boot floppy fine. I'm sure Bruce Evans will jump in eventually to explain everything, except why nobody thought to do this in the first place. If nobody objects seriously, I'm going to commit this change to 2.2.x and -current in a couple days. (Or somebody else can do it sooner, if they want.) The only problem now is that I can't modify the copy of the boot blocks on my 2.2.6 CDs. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 14:36:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09418 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:36:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (nsmart@ts01-29.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09411 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA03035; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:32:35 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199806302132.WAA03035@indigo.ie> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:32:35 +0000 In-Reply-To: Lauri Laupmaa "cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ?" (Jun 30, 10:21pm) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Lauri Laupmaa , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Jun 30, 10:21pm, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: } Subject: cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ? > Hi > > I'm using cvsup.ee.freebsd.org as default site in > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile, but after make world it will > be reset to cvsup.freebsd.org. This is a real no-brainer mkdir -p /usr/local/etc/cvsup cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile /usr/local/etc/cvsup/default.sup vi /usr/local/etc/cvsup/default.sup Niall -- Niall Smart. PGP: finger njs3@motmot.doc.ic.ac.uk FreeBSD: Turning PC's into Workstations: www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 15:08:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13938 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13903 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kurt@Boolean.Net) Received: from gypsy (mg135-057.ricochet.net [204.179.135.57]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id PAA25475; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806302204.PAA25475@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: boolean@shell17.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:54:30 -0700 To: Chris Coleman From: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" Subject: Re: System won't boot after Install. Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris, Is the root on sd0 (target 0)? I had a problem a few months ago booting FreeBSD when the root was on sd1 (target 1). The panic I got was "cannot mount root" or something. To get to work, I had to remove the primary drive (target 0), build a kernel that hardcoded sd0 to be target 1 and sd1 to 0, then reinstalling the primary drive. I still run this way today. Check out bug kern/6505 for details. A search in -current and/or -bugs for "cannot mount root" or "zeilenga" would probably locate my postings. Regards, Kurt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 15:09:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14176 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:09:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov (mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov [147.155.137.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14165 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:09:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov) Received: from demios.ether.scl.ameslab.gov ([147.155.137.54] helo=demios.scl.ameslab.gov) by mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for freebsd-current@freebsd.org id 0yr8Yw-0001oU-00; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:07:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:09:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: aic driver w/ SCSI Zip drive on Pentium II 266 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to use the aic6360 driver on a 266MHz Pentium II running FreeBSD-current to contact a SCSI Zip drive. The kernel recognizes the Zip drive as sd2 (two other SCSI drives are on a built-in SCSI interface), but any attempt to use the drive hangs the process in an eternal wait and occasionally a timeout error is printed by the kernel. Is anyone aware of any changes to the delay count or spin loop parameters that might help in this situation? Thanks, Guy Helmer Guy Helmer, Graduate Student, Iowa State University Dept. of Computer Science Research Assistant, Ames Laboratory --- ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~ghelmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 15:13:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15076 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bb.cc.wa.us (chris@bb.cc.wa.us [134.39.181.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15042 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@bb.cc.wa.us) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by bb.cc.wa.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA15923; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:07:51 GMT Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:07:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Coleman To: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System won't boot after Install. In-Reply-To: <199806302204.PAA25475@proxy4.ba.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, its on sd0. :-( Now what? Christopher J. Coleman (whyareyou@lookingforme.com) Computer Support Analyst I (509)-762-6341 FreeBSD Book Project: http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Kurt D. Zeilenga wrote: > Chris, > > Is the root on sd0 (target 0)? I had a problem a few months ago booting FreeBSD > when the root was on sd1 (target 1). The panic I got was "cannot mount root" > or something. To get to work, I had to remove the primary drive (target 0), > build a kernel that hardcoded sd0 to be target 1 and sd1 to 0, then reinstalling > the primary drive. I still run this way today. > > Check out bug kern/6505 for details. A search in -current and/or -bugs > for "cannot mount root" or "zeilenga" would probably locate my postings. > > Regards, Kurt > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 15:36:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19714 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (daemon@smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19668 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr02.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10092; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com(206.165.6.202) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd010068; Tue Jun 30 15:36:12 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24016; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:36:11 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806302236.PAA24016@usr02.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Not booting after install. To: chrisc@vmunix.com (Chris Coleman) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:36:11 +0000 (GMT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Chris Coleman" at Jun 30, 98 02:58:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have installed the 3.0-SNAP from the ftp.freebsd.org and after it > installed, it wouldn't find the volumes. > > I have symbios and adaptec controllers and seagate disks. > > Do I need to get a more current version? > > It installed just fine, but it won't boot after wards. You didn't list a specific failure message... Unless you have a specifically configured BIOS, you can not boot except from INT 13 BIOS drive 0x80 or 0x81. A bootable OS must be located on either the first or the second device. This corresponds to the first and second drive identified by the system, and reported to the FreeBSD boot blocks. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 15:39:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20220 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ixion.honeywell.com (ixion.honeywell.com [129.30.4.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20137 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sleas@ixion.honeywell.com) Received: from localhost by ixion.honeywell.com with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291466246; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:37:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:37:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Leas To: Brandon Lockhart Cc: Jim Bryant , Terry Lambert , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Clinton-Hdr4: test header4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Brandon Lockhart wrote: > :note the cc to -chat. why not move it to the To: line.. > > But many of us here on -current, who can't have our mailboxes bogged down > anymore are enjoying this enlightenment. I for one do not feel like whipping out the spanking board if someone briefly goes completely offtopic, unless it becomes a lengthy thread about the viability of extended cryogenic stasis or the assertion that we will have mapped the entire human genome by 2037. Let's not be sticklers... -Shawn > ,-----------------------------------------------------------------. > | //// "Anything I say represents only my opinion." | > | (o o) / | > | ,---ooO--(_)--Ooo---------------------------------------------, | > | | BRANDON LOCKHART | | > | `-------------------------------------------------------------' | > | brandon.lockhart@usinternetworking.com brandon@engulf.net | > | Work: (410) 897-4551 Pager: (888) xxx-xxxx | > `-----------------------------------------------------------------' > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 16:04:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25166 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:04:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa4-47.ix.netcom.com [207.93.136.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25065 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00980; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806302303.QAA00980@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: chrisc@vmunix.com CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Chris Coleman on Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:58:47 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Not booting after install. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Look at the FAQ and handbook at www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 16:06:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25968 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:06:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25912 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:06:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10843; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Lauri Laupmaa cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:21:30 +0300." Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:05:45 -0700 Message-ID: <10838.899247945@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm using cvsup.ee.freebsd.org as default site in > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile, but after make world it will > be reset to cvsup.freebsd.org. You don't use that file if you're going to make the world. :) Copy it somewhere and use that file instead (canonical name is usually /etc/cvsupfile). > It would be nice to have a place (/etc/make.conf ?) to define my > location and get files from ftp/cvsup/www/current.??.freebsd.org make.conf already does provide this, in fact. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 16:33:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00549 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00523 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:33:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: from localhost (chrisc@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA28886; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:36:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:36:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman X-Sender: chrisc@vnode To: Terry Lambert cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not booting after install. In-Reply-To: <199806302236.PAA24016@usr02.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You didn't list a specific failure message... Well, it didn't give a specific failure... I guess these messages popped up. Boot: empty partition: Can't find kernel. > > Unless you have a specifically configured BIOS, you can not boot > except from INT 13 BIOS drive 0x80 or 0x81. > I am booting from sd0.. could that not be the first bios drive? > A bootable OS must be located on either the first or the second > device. This corresponds to the first and second drive identified > by the system, and reported to the FreeBSD boot blocks. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 16:36:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01013 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:36:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa4-47.ix.netcom.com [207.93.136.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00961 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01099; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:35:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806302335.QAA01099@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199806302138.RAA05124@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> (message from Bill Paul on Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:38:04 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.e-motion.on.ca/eurocom/service/72price.htm has a picture of a notebook and specs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 16:39:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01568 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.uninet.ee (ns.uninet.ee [194.204.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01537 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taavi@uninet.ee) Received: from localhost (taavi@localhost) by ns.uninet.ee (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA16319; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:41:00 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:41:00 +0300 (EEST) From: Taavi Talvik To: Niall Smart cc: Lauri Laupmaa , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ? In-Reply-To: <199806302132.WAA03035@indigo.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Niall Smart wrote: > > I'm using cvsup.ee.freebsd.org as default site in > > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile, but after make world it will > > be reset to cvsup.freebsd.org. > > mkdir -p /usr/local/etc/cvsup > cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile /usr/local/etc/cvsup/default.sup > vi /usr/local/etc/cvsup/default.sup I personally use the following in /etc/make.conf SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 -z -h cvsup.ee.freebsd.org SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile SUPFILE1= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/secure-supfile SUPFILE2= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile However, it would be really nice, if *default* is to try some local site first, and only thenafter go for global site or ask from user. If system is installed, from say ftp.ee.freebsd.org, then /stand/sysinstall, pkg_add, "make update" in /usr/src, "make fetch" in /usr/ports all default to this site. Especially useful is default site for /stand/sysinstall for first time users. Especially usefull in parts of world, where bandwidth is not commodity :) best regards, taavi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 17:18:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08781 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:18:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (lee@host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08661 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:17:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA04774; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:17:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19980630201717.09849@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:17:17 -0400 From: Lee Cremeans To: Bill Paul Cc: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <199806281653.JAA19780@antipodes.cdrom.com> <199806302138.RAA05124@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199806302138.RAA05124@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>; from Bill Paul on Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 05:38:04PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE (soon to be 3.0-CURRENT) X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 05:38:04PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote: > I don't know if this is something to do with the BIOS or something > peculiar about how the x86 CPUs work, but with these three bytes, > it loads the FreeBSD boot floppy fine. I'm sure Bruce Evans will > jump in eventually to explain everything, except why nobody thought > to do this in the first place. It sounds like the BIOS to me; this is the first time I've ever seen a PC that checks for a short jump and a NOP at the beginning of sector 0. What kind of BIOS is this? (and does that FCC certification sticker have an ID on it? YOu can find the manufacturer using that, get the first 3 chars and go to http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid. -- Lee C. -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet #watertower) A! JW223 YWD+++^ri P&B++ SL+++^i GDF B&M KK--i MD+++i P++ I++++ Did $++ E5/10/70/3c/73ac/95/96 H2 PonPippi Ay77 M | lcremean@tidalwave.net FreeBSD/Linux/Unix hacker...Win95 and M$ evil! (go see www.freebsd.org) My home page: http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | finger me for geek code To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 17:46:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14371 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:46:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14284 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:46:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11775; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:39:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199806302339.AAA11775@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: John-Mark Gurney cc: Andreas Klemm , Thomas Dean , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: why I don't get any response ( was Re: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/nfs/nqnfs.h:93: field `udp_haddr' has incomplete type ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:42:33 PDT." <19980629194233.43206@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 00:39:55 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [.....] > SO DON'T DO make includes TO FIX PROBLEMS!! The ``includes'' target should probably be renamed.... > -- > John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 541 683 7109 > Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 > > Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD > Don't trust anyone you don't have the source for -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 18:11:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19541 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19464 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08972; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807010057.RAA08972@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Chris Coleman cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System won't boot after Install. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:38:44 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:57:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have a dual processor PII with 5 Seagate Drives and a Symbios UW and a > Symbios N controller and a Adaptec 2940UW controller. > > After installing the 3.0-SNAP found on ftp.freebsd.org, it won't boot > after it installs. It installs just fine. But then it can't seem to > find the FreeBSD partition. > > Any suggestions? Several. It's possible that there's an ordering problem; try pulling all of the controllers and disks other than the boot disk and see if it picks it up OK. If that still fails, then we need to know what the 'changing root device to' message says. Also, try a newer SNAP from current.freebsd.org, as there have been some improvements in that area recently. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 18:43:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25618 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:43:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25520 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09129; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807010128.SAA09129@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Chris Coleman cc: Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not booting after install. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:36:40 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:28:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > You didn't list a specific failure message... > > Well, it didn't give a specific failure... I guess these messages popped > up. > > Boot: > empty partition: > Can't find kernel. This sure as hell isn't "can't mount root". This means that BIOS disk 0x80 is not sd0, ie. your BIOS probes your SCSI controllers in a different order to FreeBSD. This is because someone thought it would be better to do their own PCI enumeration rather than use the BIOS. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 21:18:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18710 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.camalott.com (root@mail.camalott.com [208.203.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18677; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-54.camalott.com [208.229.74.54]) by mail.camalott.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04992; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:16:58 -0500 Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02785; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:17:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:17:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199807010417.XAA02785@detlev.UUCP> To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com CC: tlambert@primenet.com, mike@smith.net.au, wheelman@nuc.net, steve.a@cableinet.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19980630001323.A27143@mooseriver.com> (message from Josef Grosch on Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:13:23 -0700) Subject: Re: A Little Cancer Patient need Your Attention From: Joel Ray Holveck Reply-to: joelh@gnu.org References: <199806300532.WAA03704@dingo.cdrom.com> <199806300623.XAA27246@usr01.primenet.com> <19980630001323.A27143@mooseriver.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> And people wonder why I fight for "the right thing" in favor of "the >> expedient thing"... it's because I expect to have to live with my >> decisions for a long, long time. > Yes, but think about it Terry, if everything was done in an expedient manor > instead of the proper manor and you lived for a very long time you would > have the joy of saying "I told you so" to legions of clueless bozos. Yes, but you'd have to call them up using tin cans connected by string. Happy hacking, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org - http://www.wp.com/piquan Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 21:21:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19233 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.camalott.com (root@mail.camalott.com [208.203.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19190 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:21:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-54.camalott.com [208.229.74.54]) by mail.camalott.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05270; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:20:47 -0500 Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02799; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:21:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:21:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199807010421.XAA02799@detlev.UUCP> To: thyerm@camtech.net.au CC: garbanzo@hooked.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <3598D7F6.7A276757@camtech.net.au> (message from Matthew Thyer on Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:50:06 +0930) Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) From: Joel Ray Holveck Reply-to: joelh@gnu.org References: <35977183.F5CA73F1@camtech.net.au> <199806291447.JAA02569@detlev.UUCP> <3598D7F6.7A276757@camtech.net.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> I'm not in a position to test this, but I will comment that if you >> mark the radio button for a different config.sys / autoexec.bat, then >> Win95 will do a warm boot before loading the program. There may be a >> problem running win /b after that. (win /b is what restores your old >> config.sys and autoexec.bat, and then reboots the computer again after >> your program has finished. It is automatically placed at the end of >> autoexec.bat in the per-program version.) > Now the use of a different autoexec.bat / config.sys may help > me with what I'd like to do (and Terry with his lab of machines). > Possibly some combination of memory manager with appropriate > switches might result in unmodifed vectors. > Maybe MS uses a memory manager anyway if you have no alternate > config.sys / autoexec.bat listed. > If I have any luck messing with this I'll let people know. Win95 loads himem.sys in a standard boot if no XMS manager is loaded. But I don't *think* that it loads himem.sys in an alternate config.sys boot. -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org - http://www.wp.com/piquan Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 21:39:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21976 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21957 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: from localhost (chrisc@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA09198; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:42:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:42:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman X-Sender: chrisc@vnode To: Mike Smith cc: Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not booting after install. In-Reply-To: <199807010128.SAA09129@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > You didn't list a specific failure message... > > > > Well, it didn't give a specific failure... I guess these messages popped > > up. > > > > Boot: > > empty partition: > > Can't find kernel. > > This sure as hell isn't "can't mount root". > > This means that BIOS disk 0x80 is not sd0, ie. your BIOS probes your > SCSI controllers in a different order to FreeBSD. This is because > someone thought it would be better to do their own PCI enumeration > rather than use the BIOS. 8( > Any way of fixing this? > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 30 23:52:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06185 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles174.castles.com [208.214.165.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06173 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00749; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807010652.XAA00749@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Chris Coleman cc: Mike Smith , Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not booting after install. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 00:42:04 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:52:19 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > You didn't list a specific failure message... > > > > > > Well, it didn't give a specific failure... I guess these messages popped > > > up. > > > > > > Boot: > > > empty partition: > > > Can't find kernel. > > > > This sure as hell isn't "can't mount root". > > > > This means that BIOS disk 0x80 is not sd0, ie. your BIOS probes your > > SCSI controllers in a different order to FreeBSD. This is because > > someone thought it would be better to do their own PCI enumeration > > rather than use the BIOS. 8( > > > Any way of fixing this? The "best" way is to disable BIOS support on all the cards except for the one that's providing your boot device, and making sure that this is the controller probed first by FreeBSD. It's actually also possible that the above has come from having more than one FreeBSD slice on a disk; without knowing more about your setup, it's hard to be certain. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 02:27:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22813 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (haiti-87.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA22807 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:27:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA03586; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Terry Lambert cc: Joel Ray Holveck , thyerm@camtech.net.au, jkh@time.cdrom.com, mike@smith.net.au, Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au, jlemon@americantv.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-Reply-To: <199806282229.PAA12716@usr07.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > What would be best is for fbsdboot.exe to return all vectors to > > > normal but I realise that cannot be done. > > > > It may be possible to add a tiny driver to the config.sys that records > > the vectors at that time, and fbsdboot can restore them then. I used > > the same basic technique to load and unload TSRs in batches in my > > sysop days. > > What are the Linux people doing about it? At last check Linux didn't attempt to detect memory beyond 64mb on the x86 platform. With this in mind I doubt that anything "opions VM86" enables is even used by the Linux kernel, thus allowing linload.exe to load Linux from Windows without a hitch. Theoretically speaking of course. - alex | "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern | | technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." | | Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 02:32:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23428 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (haiti-87.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23423 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA03596; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:32:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Chris Coleman cc: Mike Smith , Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not booting after install. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Chris Coleman wrote: > > > > You didn't list a specific failure message... > > > > > > Well, it didn't give a specific failure... I guess these messages popped > > > up. > > > > > > Boot: > > > empty partition: > > > Can't find kernel. > > > > This sure as hell isn't "can't mount root". > > > > This means that BIOS disk 0x80 is not sd0, ie. your BIOS probes your > > SCSI controllers in a different order to FreeBSD. This is because > > someone thought it would be better to do their own PCI enumeration > > rather than use the BIOS. 8( > > > Any way of fixing this? With my aic7880, there's an option to set the "boot device" or something like that from the SCSI BIOS setup thingy. If you set the "boot device" to scsi ID n, 0x80 will be that ID. The Adaptect boot up screen shows which id coresponds to which hex #. Make sense? Kinda? - alex | "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern | | technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." | | Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 03:07:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA26343 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from octopus.originative.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA26315 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@originative.co.uk) Received: by OCTOPUS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:08:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: Paul Richards To: "'Mike Smith'" , Garance A Drosihn Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:08:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone actually know of sources of 200Mhz PPro chips since I haven't had much luck finding any for the last few months! Paul Richards Ph.D. Originative Solutions Ltd > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Smith [mailto:mike@smith.net.au] > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 12:31 AM > To: Garance A Drosihn > Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc > > > > Okay. For those who can't seem to find the machine I'm > talking about > > at insight, the URL is: > > > > > http://www.insight.com/cgi-bin/bp/1480860161/web/technote.html > ?a=f&f=p&d=TODT102 > > 6U > > Ooh, I want me one. 8) > > > I just ordered a second one of these $800 boxes yesterday, > and I think > > they still have a thousand left in stock (that's with just > the single > > PPro, of course, for SMP you'd have to buy another processor). I > > imagine it is to my advantage to have many many of these sold to > > freebsd folks, as it will increase the number of people interested > > in freebsd support for them :-) > > They ought to Just Work. > > > But I really was interested in whether there's anything I need to > > watch out for when buying the second processor, in case I > want to try > > for SMP in the fall, > > Should be nothing special. Make sure you're buying the processor > sooner rather than later, as they're getting harder to get. > > > and whether there's a way to read the temperature > > sensors inside the box while freebsd is running. > > I believe someone's already written code to talk to the LM78, if not, > you could dig out the specs and do it pretty easily. There's a Linux > driver that's supposed to do this (didn't work too well when I tried > it). > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 04:11:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03393 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 04:11:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03388 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 04:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-5-01.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.161]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA07704 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:38:10 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <359A194D.8223143B@camtech.net.au> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:41:09 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: Problem with restore under current. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently (well a couple of months ago) had to transfer a whole system to a new disk which I did with dump and restore. Unfortunately restore sets schg flags before it trys to create links (at least that's how it appeared to me) so I got errors which had to be fixed by hand on trying to restore: All of these were hard links by the way and this was a restore of the /usr filesystem. ./bin/ypchsh could not be linked to ./bin/chpass ./bin/ypchfn " ./bin/chpass ./bin/ypchpass " ./bin/chpass ./bin/chsh " ./bin/chpass ./bin/chfn " ./bin/chpass ./bin/yppasswd " ./bin/passwd I haven't looked at the source so take this as a whinge only. I'm hoping a restore guru will know how to fix this. -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 06:13:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14784 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:13:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mnw.eas.slu.edu (mnw.eas.slu.edu [165.134.8.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14777 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejh@mnw.eas.slu.edu) Received: (from ejh@localhost) by mnw.eas.slu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07409 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:13:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:13:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Haug Message-Id: <199807011313.IAA07409@mnw.eas.slu.edu> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Disk drive errors Toshiba 6200M Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I suspect that both disk drives may have problems but before i attempt to get warranty repair Could this be software related? I bought two 6200M's and both mother boards exhibit similiar problems. I have configured two 6200M's into one with 64M memory and one processor. Two disks by MICROPOLIS of model 4345WS FreeBSD current FreeBSD 3.0-980520-SNAP would not successfully newfs the f partition. I think the system just hung. The SNAP with the CAM changes would successfully complete. The current problem is that both disks will come up with errors and go "offline". With the CAM SNAP part of the error messages: Jun 9 14:32:27 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 79 81 f5 0 0 10 0 Jun 9 14:32:28 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:77a4a6 csi:2, 80,21,0 asc:62,0 Jun 9 14:32:28 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): Scan head positioning error Jun 9 14:32:28 gumbo /kernel: ahc0:A:1: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET Jun 9 14:32:28 gumbo /kernel: SAVED_TCL == 0x10, ARG_1 == 0xd, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x0 Jun 9 14:32:28 gumbo /kernel: ahc0: Bus Device Reset Sent. 1 SCBs aborted Jun 9 14:32:42 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 79 81 f5 0 0 10 0 Jun 9 14:32:43 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 Jun 9 14:32:43 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred Jun 10 06:24:02 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): tagged openings now 16 Jun 10 06:33:12 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 85 88 15 0 0 80 0 Jun 10 06:33:12 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:77a4a6 csi:2, 80,21,0 asc:62,0 Jun 10 06:33:12 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): Scan head positioning error Jun 10 06:33:12 gumbo /kernel: ahc0:A:1: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET Jun 10 06:33:12 gumbo /kernel: SAVED_TCL == 0x10, ARG_1 == 0xb, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x2 0 Jun 10 06:33:12 gumbo /kernel: ahc0: Bus Device Reset Sent. 4 SCBs aborted Jun 29 07:39:55 gumbo /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 7d ff a9 0 0 10 0 Jun 29 07:39:55 gumbo /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:7dffb4 asc:11 ,0 Jun 29 07:39:55 gumbo /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Unrecovered read error With a FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #1: Mon Jun 29 19:28:05 CDT 1998 kernel NO CAM Jun 30 20:21:22 gumbo /kernel: ahc0:A:1: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET Jun 30 20:21:22 gumbo /kernel: SAVED_TCL == 0x10 ARG_1 == 0xff SEQADDR == 0x10a Jun 30 20:21:22 gumbo /kernel: ahc0: Bus Device Reset delivered. 0 SCBs aborted Jun 30 20:21:22 gumbo /kernel: ahc0:A:1: Target did not send an IDENTIFY message . LASTPHASE = 0x0, SAVED_TCL == 0x10 Jun 30 20:21:22 gumbo /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 0 SCBs aborted Jun 30 20:21:22 gumbo /kernel: sd0: UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 Jun 30 20:21:22 gumbo /kernel: sd0: Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurr ed Jun 30 20:21:23 gumbo /kernel: , retries:4 Jun 30 20:21:23 gumbo /kernel: sd1: UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 Jun 30 20:21:23 gumbo /kernel: sd1: Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurr ed Jun 30 20:21:23 gumbo /kernel: , retries:4 part of disklabel output a: 160650 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 9) b: 160650 160650 swap # (Cyl. 10 - 19) c: 4690980 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 291) e: 1285200 321300 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 20 - 99) f: 3084480 1606500 4.2BSD 1024 8192 0 # (Cyl. 100 - 291) part of the fdisk output: sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) start 63, size 2072322 (1011 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 128/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 5,(Extended DOS) start 2072385, size 2120580 (1035 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 129/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 260/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 4192965, size 4690980 (2290 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 261/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 552/ sector 63/ head 254 Thanks Eric Haug Saint Louis University To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 06:40:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17529 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov (mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov [147.155.137.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17524 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov) Received: from demios.ether.scl.ameslab.gov ([147.155.137.54] helo=demios.scl.ameslab.gov) by mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for freebsd-current@freebsd.org id 0yrN5p-0003F5-00; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:38:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:40:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: aic driver w/ SCSI Zip drive on Pentium II 266 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yesterday I wrote: >I'm trying to use the aic6360 driver on a 266MHz Pentium II running >FreeBSD-current to contact a SCSI Zip drive. The kernel recognizes the >Zip drive as sd2 [...] Nevermind. It was simply a matter of changing the BIOS parameters to make PCI/PnP give up IRQ 11 to the ISA bus for use by the aic6360. I was surprised that the SCSI interface was probed correctly despite the IRQ not working. Even more surprising was that this worked under NT 4.0 before I adjusted the BIOS. Guy Helmer, Graduate Student, Iowa State University Dept. of Computer Science Research Assistant, Ames Laboratory --- ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~ghelmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 06:58:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19748 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from krabi.mbp.ee (krabi.mbp.ee [194.204.12.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19733 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:58:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauri@krabi.mbp.ee) Received: from localhost (mauri@localhost) by krabi.mbp.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA00286; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:58:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mauri@krabi.mbp.ee) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:58:21 +0300 (EEST) From: Lauri Laupmaa To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup.??.freebsd.org and default ? In-Reply-To: <10838.899247945@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > It would be nice to have a place (/etc/make.conf ?) to define my > > location and get files from ftp/cvsup/www/current.??.freebsd.org > > make.conf already does provide this, in fact. Er, does it ? Where ? I mean something like /etc/location , which in turn contains 2 letter country code and all relevant applications then try ftp/www/cvsup.xx.freebsd.org first. _____________ Lauri Laupmaa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 07:08:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20924 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20914 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:08:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA20534 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:37:59 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199807011407.XAA20534@cain.gsoft.com.au> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is MSDOS FS OK? Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:37:59 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone have any reports of MSDOSFS stomping on drives? (I am interested in the current version, as of today). I realise there is no guarantee, but I'd like an idea of its danger before I have a real fiddle with it :) The partitions I want to use it on are a 499Mb FAT16 partition, and a 2.6Gb FAT32 partition. (I have tried it read only and it seems fine..) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 08:00:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26572 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:00:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26542 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA06760; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:03:16 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199807011503.LAA06760@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) To: lcremean@tidalwave.net Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980630201717.09849@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net> from "Lee Cremeans" at Jun 30, 98 08:17:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Lee Cremeans had to walk into mine and say: > On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 05:38:04PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote: > > I don't know if this is something to do with the BIOS or something > > peculiar about how the x86 CPUs work, but with these three bytes, > > it loads the FreeBSD boot floppy fine. I'm sure Bruce Evans will > > jump in eventually to explain everything, except why nobody thought > > to do this in the first place. > > It sounds like the BIOS to me; this is the first time I've ever seen a PC > that checks for a short jump and a NOP at the beginning of sector 0. What > kind of BIOS is this? It's an AMI BIOS. It says: AMIBIOS MOBILE '96 256KB BIOS OPTI FIRESTAR, 82c814 DOCKING C8T 65554 VGA, TI 1151 CARDBUS, ESS 1878/690/938 07/03/97 R1.06 If you press DEL for setup, you get this mouse-driven setup screen. After it passes the POST, it displays an 'Amarican Megatrends Power Management BIOS version 0.0' graphic logo for a few seconds before reading the boot blocks. > (and does that FCC certification sticker have an ID on > it? YOu can find the manufacturer using that, get the first 3 chars and go > to http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid. Ooo... good idea. The FCC ID is: L4PK7000S13. According to this page (which insists on using secure communications that don't work with Mozilla, I'll have you know), it's made by a company called Kapok Computer Co. in Taiwan. The form indicates that the original grant was mailed to a 'Sporton International Inc.' On the whole, it doesn't seem like a bad machine, except for this nonsense with the boot blocks. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 08:36:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29504 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:36:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ConSys.COM (ConSys.COM [209.141.107.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29498 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:36:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: (from pinyon@localhost) by ConSys.COM (8.8.6/8.8.6) id IAA07323 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:36:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:36:16 -0700 (MST) From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-Id: <199807011536.IAA07323@ConSys.COM> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: opt_linux.h, opt_nfs.h, and friends Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, My make buildworld this morning ~6:30AM MST fails in lkm/linux looking for an opt_linux.h. Touching the file in the obj hierarchy gets through lkm/linux but then the build fails looking for opt_nfs.h and couple of others (going from memory, which erodes yearly...). Now I just re-cvsupped all my sources last night, but this is only a couple of day old -current. Not seeing any complaints in current or fixes in cvs-all makes me suspect something on my side. What am I missing? Thanks, Russell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 08:53:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01826 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01818 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04039; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199807011552.IAA04039@austin.polstra.com> To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) In-Reply-To: <199806302138.RAA05124@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> References: <199806302138.RAA05124@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 08:52:46 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199806302138.RAA05124@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>, Bill Paul wrote: > Basically, there's a jump and a no-op, about 60 bytes of stuff, then > the start of the boot code. The jump skips over the 60 bytes of whatever. > Initially I duplicated all of this in start.S and yes, it worked. But > I wanted to see how much of this was really necessary so I started > whittling things down. It turns out that all you really need to make > the bastard happy is the jump and the no-op. Hey, the jump plus nop form the "magic number". :-) As I recall, the original a.out magic number (0407) was simply the opcode word of the PDP-11 jump instruction. Some things never change. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 08:59:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02945 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (root@mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02936 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA51422; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:59:04 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: drosih@pop1.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199807011313.IAA07409@mnw.eas.slu.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:02:54 -0400 To: Eric Haug , current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Disk drive errors Toshiba 6200M Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:13 AM -0500 7/1/98, Eric Haug wrote: > Hi all, > I suspect that both disk drives may have problems > but before i attempt to get warranty repair > Could this be software related? > > I bought two 6200M's and both mother boards exhibit similiar > problems. > I have configured two 6200M's into one with 64M memory and one > processor. Two disks by MICROPOLIS of model 4345WS I didn't look at the errors you listed, but I would note that we (some of my friends and I) did have some problems with the disks in some of the Toshiba 6200m's we bought. There is a firmware upgrade for the disk that you can get, and at least in my case that solved all the problems I was having with the disk. We ended up updating the firmware for the disks in all the Toshiba's we bought. You can get the firmware upgrade from: http://www.addit.de/SUPPORT/micr-eproms.htm You want the one called something like X502_4.exe. You'll also have to go to the adaptec site to find how to build a dos floppy with ASPI support. In our exerience this site (the one in germany) was often down or very busy, but if you keep trying (say, every 20 minutes) then you'll eventually get it OK. One additional note: If you go to do the first step, and you get a big red dialog (of sense data, I think it was) with a few numbers blinking in it, then the update isn't working. In our case, the problem was because of some of the BIOS settings we had setup (in the SCSISelect part of the boot-up sequence). I think it was because we had turned on Ultra-wide support, or some option negotiation thing. So, if you get that red screen, don't panic. Just start fiddling around with scsi options until the update works OK. (and remember to do both steps of the update) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 09:02:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03703 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03691 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15213; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:02:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:02:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199807011602.MAA15213@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, ejh@mnw.eas.slu.edu Subject: Re: Disk drive errors Toshiba 6200M Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi all, > I suspect that both disk drives may have problems > but before i attempt to get warranty repair > Could this be software related? > > I bought two 6200M's and both mother boards exhibit similiar > problems. > I have configured two 6200M's into one with 64M memory and one processor. > Two disks by MICROPOLIS of model 4345WS > FreeBSD current FreeBSD 3.0-980520-SNAP would not successfully > newfs the f partition. I think the system just hung. > The SNAP with the CAM changes would successfully complete. > The current problem is that both disks will come up with errors > and go "offline". Try a low level format. I had similar problem with one of my SCSI disks, and a LL format fixed it. -lq > Thanks > Eric Haug > Saint Louis University > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 09:11:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05219 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:11:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from solaris.matti.ee (root@solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05208 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from localhost (vallo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with SMTP id TAA19654 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:11:33 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:11:32 +0300 (EET DST) From: Vallo Kallaste Reply-To: Vallo Kallaste To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CAM kernel panics on IBM NetFinity 3500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello ! Writing to -current list because CAM is current child. As subject says I can't install FreeBSD on the IBM NetFinity 3500. This machine has Adaptec AIC-7895P chip built-in and provides two-channel SCSI interface. Of course I used right boot image grabbed from location http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/cam-boot/. Kernel probes controller and I see kernel messages about it, but panics immediately after messages: ( probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): Sending SDTR!! ( probe0:ahc0:0:1:0): Sending SDTR!! panic: page fault Now I'm stopped reboot process and scrolled back and there are some other messages below (subjectively) that panic message: changing root device to fd0c rootfs is 1440 Kbyte compiled in MFS running as init on vty0 Controller has an external SCSI connector connected to channel B without any device on it and two IBM DCHS04U hard drives (4,5GB each) connected to channel A ( scsi ID 0 and 1 respectively). I have played with SCSISelect utility but no luck. Are there some points I missed ? Can somebody explain what these messages means before panic and maybe all that is my fault. Thanks Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 09:18:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06153 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vampire.sung.org (ip-69-171.obt.primenet.com [207.218.69.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06083 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwsung@Sung.org) Received: from win95.Sung.org (win95.sung.org [90.0.0.1]) by vampire.sung.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11396; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwsung@Sung.org) Message-Id: <199807011616.JAA11396@vampire.sung.org> X-Sender: root@90.0.0.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 09:16:35 -0700 To: Paul Richards , "'Mike Smith'" , Garance A Drosihn From: Christian Sung Subject: RE: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul, Try www.pricewatch.com, you may just find what you're looking for. -christian At 11:08 AM 7/1/98 +0100, Paul Richards wrote: >Does anyone actually know of sources of 200Mhz PPro chips since I >haven't had much luck finding any for the last few months! > >Paul Richards Ph.D. >Originative Solutions Ltd > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Smith [mailto:mike@smith.net.au] >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 12:31 AM >> To: Garance A Drosihn >> Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG >> Subject: Re: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc >> >> >> > Okay. For those who can't seem to find the machine I'm >> talking about >> > at insight, the URL is: >> > >> > >> http://www.insight.com/cgi-bin/bp/1480860161/web/technote.html >> ?a=f&f=p&d=TODT102 >> > 6U >> >> Ooh, I want me one. 8) >> >> > I just ordered a second one of these $800 boxes yesterday, >> and I think >> > they still have a thousand left in stock (that's with just >> the single >> > PPro, of course, for SMP you'd have to buy another processor). I >> > imagine it is to my advantage to have many many of these sold to >> > freebsd folks, as it will increase the number of people interested >> > in freebsd support for them :-) >> >> They ought to Just Work. >> >> > But I really was interested in whether there's anything I need to >> > watch out for when buying the second processor, in case I >> want to try >> > for SMP in the fall, >> >> Should be nothing special. Make sure you're buying the processor >> sooner rather than later, as they're getting harder to get. >> >> > and whether there's a way to read the temperature >> > sensors inside the box while freebsd is running. >> >> I believe someone's already written code to talk to the LM78, if not, >> you could dig out the specs and do it pretty easily. There's a Linux >> driver that's supposed to do this (didn't work too well when I tried >> it). >> >> -- >> \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith >> \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au >> \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org >> \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message >> > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Christian W. Sung E-Mail: cwsung@Sung.org IS Management Consultant Website: www.Sung.org Senior UNIX Consultant Telephone (800) COM-UNIX "And the UNIX Guru typed 'rm -rf /*', and all that was before, including the Guru himself, became then null and void, and darkness came down upon the system and those who worshiped it in a rather ruthless way." -- C.W. Sung ================================================== PGP Key Fingerprint: F6E2 0372 F765 28B6 6D34 7DF4 A928 A7AF 59A0 04CD ================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 09:23:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07083 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07066 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA27670; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:23:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: ben@rosengart.com To: "Russell L. Carter" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: opt_linux.h, opt_nfs.h, and friends In-Reply-To: <199807011536.IAA07323@ConSys.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't think you're missing anything, or if you are, I'm missing it too. On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Russell L. Carter wrote: > Hi all, > My make buildworld this morning ~6:30AM MST fails in lkm/linux > looking for an opt_linux.h. Touching the file in the > obj hierarchy gets through lkm/linux but then the build > fails looking for opt_nfs.h and couple of others (going > from memory, which erodes yearly...). > > Now I just re-cvsupped all my sources last night, but this > is only a couple of day old -current. Not seeing any > complaints in current or fixes in cvs-all makes me > suspect something on my side. What am I missing? > > Thanks, > Russell > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 09:34:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08871 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08802 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:33:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id MAA04510; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:34:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:34:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199807011634.MAA04510@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, rcarter@pinyon.org Subject: Re: opt_linux.h, opt_nfs.h, and friends Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My make buildworld this morning ~6:30AM MST fails in lkm/linux > looking for an opt_linux.h. Touching the file in the > obj hierarchy gets through lkm/linux but then the build > fails looking for opt_nfs.h and couple of others (going > from memory, which erodes yearly...). > > Now I just re-cvsupped all my sources last night, but this > is only a couple of day old -current. Not seeing any > complaints in current or fixes in cvs-all makes me > suspect something on my side. What am I missing? I got the same thing from a CVSup on 6/30/98(last night). I re-CVSup'd this morning, and will try again later, but you're not alone. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 09:38:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09359 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09288 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: from localhost (chrisc@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13478; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:41:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:41:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman X-Sender: chrisc@vnode To: Mike Smith cc: Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not booting after install. In-Reply-To: <199807010652.XAA00749@antipodes.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > This means that BIOS disk 0x80 is not sd0, ie. your BIOS probes your > > > SCSI controllers in a different order to FreeBSD. This is because > > > someone thought it would be better to do their own PCI enumeration > > > rather than use the BIOS. 8( > > > > > Any way of fixing this? > > The "best" way is to disable BIOS support on all the cards except for > the one that's providing your boot device, and making sure that this is > the controller probed first by FreeBSD. Wonderful, this fixed everything. I had two controllers in there trying to install boot bios. I enabled only the first one that FreeBSD probed and re-installed. Worked wonderful. Thanks. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 09:49:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10906 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (root@mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10880 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:49:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA72102; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:43:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: drosih@pop1.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:47:24 -0400 To: Paul Richards , Mike Smith From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: RE: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:08 AM +0100 7/1/98, Paul Richards wrote: > Does anyone actually know of sources of 200Mhz PPro chips since I > haven't had much luck finding any for the last few months! I just went to www.pricewatch.com, and found a number of places that at least claimed to sell them. The first place I happened to call (not the first place on the list) scared me off because without me even asking about it they said that they only have a 7-day warranty. The second place I called had them in stock, but then got confused when I asked what stepping level they were. They were going to call me back about that (the stepping levels), but never did. Or maybe they did, and I wasn't in my office at the time. I ended up calling www.atipa.com and ordering from them. This time I did not ask about stepping levels... :-) They were a bit more expensive than many of the sites I saw at www.pricewatch.com, but they had a three-year warranty. I don't really expect any problem with the chip, but a 7-day warranty seemed rather unsettling! In any case, the chip is installed (it took me more than seven days just to get around to installing it...), and seems to be working great. All total, it took me about three days to find a place to buy from, once I started looking. Two more days to get the CPU, and eight days before I got around to installing it. (I had to track down the compound to put between the fan and the CPU, for best cooling results). [apologies if this gets posted twice. I could have sworn I already posted it, but after moving a bunch of windows around I find that it's still sitting here, so I guess I'll try to post it again] --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 10:02:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12991 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aldan.ziplink.net (mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.29.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12940 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:02:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@rtfm.ziplink.net) Received: from rtfm.ziplink.net (rtfm [199.232.255.52]) by aldan.ziplink.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA23181 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:01:58 GMT (envelope-from mi@rtfm.ziplink.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by rtfm.ziplink.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA08352 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:01:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199807011701.NAA08352@rtfm.ziplink.net> Subject: Re: bin/7059 (fwd) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:01:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli"From phk@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 08:13:10 1998 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 01:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807010810.BAA18360@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mi@aldan.algebra.com, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/7059 Synopsis: sh dumps core on this script State-Changed-From-To: open-suspended State-Changed-By: phk State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 1 01:10:39 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: awaiting fix & committer ----- End of forwarded message from Poul-Henning Kamp ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 10:25:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17440 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from base486.home.org (imdave@imdave.pr.mcs.net [205.164.3.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17422 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:25:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imdave@mcs.net) Received: (from imdave@localhost) by base486.home.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07680; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:25:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:25:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Bodenstab Message-Id: <199807011725.MAA07680@base486.home.org> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, ejh@mnw.eas.slu.edu Subject: Re: Disk drive errors Toshiba 6200M Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Eric Haug > > I bought two 6200M's and both mother boards exhibit similiar problems. > I have configured two 6200M's into one with 64M memory and one processor. > Two disks by MICROPOLIS of model 4345WS > FreeBSD current FreeBSD 3.0-980520-SNAP would not successfully > newfs the f partition. I think the system just hung. > The SNAP with the CAM changes would successfully complete. > The current problem is that both disks will come up with errors > and go "offline". > With the CAM SNAP part of the error messages: > Jun 9 14:32:27 gumbo /kernel: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 79 81 f5 I have successfully built a single dual system from two 6200m's now running the 980520 snap... Your symptoms are very similar to mine. I (and other folks) had to upgrade the firmware on the Micropolis drives. The firmware upgrade is on: http://www.addit.de/SUPPORT/micr-eproms.htm It lists X504_4.exe as the current fw for the 4345xx drives (but the comment still says X502 and the link is still to ``X502_4.exe''.) Probably the ``X504'' is a typo. I still have X502_4.exe, so if you can't get it from the above site, you can get it from: ftp://ftp.mcs.net/mcsnet.users/imdave/6200m-micropolis-fw.tar which also contains the Adaptech drivers you need to create the boot floppy for the upgrade. Good luck. Dave Bodenstab imdave@mcs.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 10:34:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18895 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:34:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peloton.physics.montana.edu (peloton.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18836 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA08199; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:33:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:33:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Brett Taylor To: Paul Richards cc: "'Mike Smith'" , Garance A Drosihn , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Paul Richards wrote: > Does anyone actually know of sources of 200Mhz PPro chips since I > haven't had much luck finding any for the last few months! Check pricewatch: http://www.pricewatch.com/ They've got the 256k cache ones listed from various places for around $180-$190. Brett *********************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu http://peloton.physics.montana.edu/brett/ How many Microsoft employees does it take to change a light bulb? Zero. They declared Darkness[tm] the standard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 10:42:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20617 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:42:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20610; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199807011742.KAA20610@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: opt_linux.h, opt_nfs.h, and friends In-Reply-To: <199807011634.MAA04510@pcnet1.pcnet.com> from Daniel Eischen at "Jul 1, 98 12:34:44 pm" To: eischen@vigrid.com (Daniel Eischen) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, rcarter@pinyon.org From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Daniel Eischen who wrote: > > My make buildworld this morning ~6:30AM MST fails in lkm/linux > > looking for an opt_linux.h. Touching the file in the > > obj hierarchy gets through lkm/linux but then the build > > fails looking for opt_nfs.h and couple of others (going > > from memory, which erodes yearly...). > > > > Now I just re-cvsupped all my sources last night, but this > > is only a couple of day old -current. Not seeing any > > complaints in current or fixes in cvs-all makes me > > suspect something on my side. What am I missing? > > I got the same thing from a CVSup on 6/30/98(last night). > I re-CVSup'd this morning, and will try again later, but > you're not alone. I think Bruce has just fixed those bogons... This is the X'd time lately that current has been broken for days. I can accept that there can be runtime erros/bugs in new code, its very difficult to check for all situation s given maybe only one machine to test it on. BUT, there is absolutely NO excuse for committing code that wont even compile.. Maybe we need to reconsider the whole commiters/access scenario... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 10:56:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22934 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22925 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00594; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807011724.KAA00594@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Eric Haug cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Disk drive errors Toshiba 6200M In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 08:13:23 CDT." <199807011313.IAA07409@mnw.eas.slu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 10:24:20 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi all, > I suspect that both disk drives may have problems > but before i attempt to get warranty repair > Could this be software related? > > I bought two 6200M's and both mother boards exhibit similiar > problems. > I have configured two 6200M's into one with 64M memory and one processor. > Two disks by MICROPOLIS of model 4345WS You need to upgrade the firmware on these drives. Get http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/firmware/micropolis_tomahawk.tar.gz. You will need to boot DOS or some other system that can provide you with ASPI drivers - you can get the Adaptec drivers from their website. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 11:56:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00955 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:56:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00839 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id MAA23044; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:50:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:50:37 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199807011850.MAA23044@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Vallo Kallaste cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CAM kernel panics on IBM NetFinity 3500 Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you wrote: > > Hello ! > > Writing to -current list because CAM is current child. > As subject says I can't install FreeBSD on the IBM NetFinity 3500. This > machine has Adaptec AIC-7895P chip built-in and provides two-channel SCSI > interface. Of course I used right boot image grabbed from location > http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/cam-boot/. > Kernel probes controller and I see kernel messages about it, but panics > immediately after messages: > > ( probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): Sending SDTR!! > ( probe0:ahc0:0:1:0): Sending SDTR!! This is an old bug that has been fixed in later revisions of the CAM code. Unfortunately, the boot floppy that is available is somewhat stale. We're going to try and do a release here for the next snapshot. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 12:35:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07745 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:35:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07734 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:35:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA12246; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:34:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19980701153420.16822@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:34:20 -0400 From: Lee Cremeans To: Bill Paul Cc: mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19980630201717.09849@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net> <199807011503.LAA06760@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199807011503.LAA06760@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>; from Bill Paul on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 11:03:14AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE (soon to be 3.0-CURRENT) X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 11:03:14AM -0400, Bill Paul wrote: > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Lee Cremeans > had to walk into mine and say: > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 05:38:04PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote: > > > I don't know if this is something to do with the BIOS or something > > > peculiar about how the x86 CPUs work, but with these three bytes, > > > it loads the FreeBSD boot floppy fine. I'm sure Bruce Evans will > > > jump in eventually to explain everything, except why nobody thought > > > to do this in the first place. > > > > It sounds like the BIOS to me; this is the first time I've ever seen a PC > > that checks for a short jump and a NOP at the beginning of sector 0. What > > kind of BIOS is this? > > It's an AMI BIOS. It says: > > AMIBIOS MOBILE '96 256KB BIOS OPTI FIRESTAR, 82c814 DOCKING > C8T 65554 VGA, TI 1151 CARDBUS, ESS 1878/690/938 07/03/97 R1.06 > > If you press DEL for setup, you get this mouse-driven setup screen. Ewww, WinBIOS. :( Personal preferences aside, I think someone at AMI put in some rather overzealous boot-sector virus checking...I get the feeling that someone there forgot that there are non-Microsoft OSes in this world. :( Check the setup program--if there's an option for it, turn boot-sector virus and modification checking off. > > (and does that FCC certification sticker have an ID on > > it? YOu can find the manufacturer using that, get the first 3 chars and go > > to http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid. > > Ooo... good idea. The FCC ID is: L4PK7000S13. According to this page > (which insists on using secure communications that don't work with > Mozilla, I'll have you know), Its only downside IMO...I have no idea why they require it, seeing that it *is* public information. > it's made by a company called Kapok > Computer Co. in Taiwan. The form indicates that the original grant > was mailed to a 'Sporton International Inc.' Wow...never heard of them. In any case, it's an AMI BIOS, and I know AMI has added a bunch of virus-checking routines to their BIOS. It appears that they check to see if the boot header on the drive is 0xEB foo 0x90, and if it doesn't match that profile, it cries wolf and won't boot. PS: AMIBIOS was good UI-wise until WinBIOS came out. And I don't like the AMI-based BIOS used on Intel motherboards, either--not configurable enough. I'm a fan of the old AMI Hi-Flex text-mode setup, and of Award BIOS. -- Lee C. -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet #watertower) A! JW223 YWD+++^ri P&B++ SL+++^i GDF B&M KK--i MD+++i P++ I++++ Did $++ E5/10/70/3c/73ac/95/96 H2 PonPippi Ay77 M | lcremean@tidalwave.net FreeBSD/Linux/Unix hacker...Win95 and M$ evil! (go see www.freebsd.org) My home page: http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | finger me for geek code To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 12:50:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09718 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:50:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09711 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00716; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:47:44 +0200 (CEST) To: Mikhail Teterin cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/7059 (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:01:49 EDT." <199807011701.NAA08352@rtfm.ziplink.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 21:47:44 +0200 Message-ID: <714.899322464@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199807011701.NAA08352@rtfm.ziplink.net>, Mikhail Teterin writes: >Is this a new policy for a PR database? This is only one of the >PRs I submitted, which are "suspended". It looks suspiciously like >dust that goes under carpet... I understand, there is lack of >time*people to fix them, but why suspend? It is a relatively new policy, I try to get through the database. Things that have merit, but are unlikely to happen unless somebody takes a fancy in them are moved to suspended, leaving "open" to mean "still to be decided on" more or less. suspended was not used for anything else, and does sadly enough reflect will on the progress on many of these good and well deserving topics. Including patches improves your situation a lot of course, but still no guarantees can be given. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 13:00:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11222 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from solaris.matti.ee (root@solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11216 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:00:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@myhakas.matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas [194.126.98.150]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with SMTP id WAA29714; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:59:59 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:59:59 +0300 (EEST) From: Vallo Kallaste To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CAM kernel panics on IBM NetFinity 3500 In-Reply-To: <199807011850.MAA23044@narnia.plutotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > This is an old bug that has been fixed in later revisions of the CAM > code. Unfortunately, the boot floppy that is available is somewhat stale. > We're going to try and do a release here for the next snapshot. *** Thanks. Some searching and I have found newer boot image. BTW, there are now another problem and I see exactly similar problem posting in the freebsd-scsi list. (message ID <3588F450.4AA54C81@rockwell.cz>, 18 June 1998 ). Unfortunately there's no answer, only one reply marking this problem as known. Ok, enough history: Now machine boots up correctly and shows sysinstall screen. I can do disk partitioning, labeling, newfs'ing without any problem. After these operations some stuff cpio'd to the hard drive root partition from the boot floppy disk, it seems. Install utility shows error: Unable to create a new /etc/fstab file! Manual intervention will be required. Fixit floppy was very helpful at this point and I figured out that etc directory is there. I have no glue how I can avoid this problem, except installing ordinary supported scsi controller and doing make world with cam patches on it. Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 14:17:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24071 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:17:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dragonfly.rain.com (methane.dragonfly.rain.com [206.163.85.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24066 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mason@methane.dragonfly.rain.com) Received: (from mason@localhost) by dragonfly.rain.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA27090; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:16:41 -0700 (PDT) From: mason@methane.dragonfly.rain.com Message-Id: <199807012116.OAA27090@dragonfly.rain.com> Subject: LBA support problems To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mason@methane.dragonfly.rain.com () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I've posted this to -current because while we're running FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE (mostly) this really deals with the LBA support (which isn't a feature in a pure 2.2.6-RELEASE system). I'm seeing some strange behaviour on our system with the LBA support that's been added to wd.c We've got an ASUS P2L97-S/233 system with IDE drives as follows: primary master WDC AC35100L 4.9 Gig, normal mode primary slave Maxtor 91152D8 11G, LBA mode secondary master Maxtor 91152D8 11G, (normal mode, 8G avail) secondary slave empty We're running FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE + the LBA patches that where posted some time back (I got them through deja news). wd.c and wdreg.h are the *only* two files we've changed in the kernel. We want to run both 11G disks in LBA mode so we can use ccd or vinum and make them look like a single 22G disk (that we NFS export to our other machines). The problem has been with accessing the disk on the seconday controller in LBA mode. If I enable LBA mode on the secondary controller, the disk is properly identified: Jun 10 15:58:57 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Jun 10 15:58:57 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Jun 10 15:58:57 sinkhole /kernel: wd0: 4924MB (10085040 sectors), 10672 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 10 15:58:57 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 Jun 10 15:58:57 sinkhole /kernel: wd1: 10991MB (22510656 sectors), 1401 cyls, 255 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 10 15:58:57 sinkhole /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Jun 10 15:58:57 sinkhole /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 Jun 10 15:58:57 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: 10991MB (22510656 sectors), 1401 cyls, 255 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S However when we try to access the secondary disk (trying to write a disklabel, or any other operation) the system freezes for several seconds and then we get a bunch of errors like the following: Jun 10 16:00:04 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: wdcontrol: recal failed reading fsbn 0wd2: status 0 error 0 Jun 10 16:00:04 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: wdsetctlr failed: Jun 10 16:00:04 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: status 0 error 0 Jun 10 16:00:04 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: wdcontrol: recal failed reading fsbn 0wd2: status 0 error 0 Jun 10 16:00:04 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: wdsetctlr failed: Jun 10 16:00:04 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: status 0 error 0 I've tried swaping the two 11G disks, no change (the disk hooked up to the secondary controller still fails) so it doesn't seem to be the disk itself. We've also tried moving the disk on the seconday contoller to the slave position (no luck - hey it was the only thing I could think of). The disk on the secondary controller works fine if we disable LBA mode. We've also seen the same problems if we disable 32-bit access on the secondary controller: Jun 10 16:35:46 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Jun 10 16:35:46 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Jun 10 16:35:46 sinkhole /kernel: wd0: 4924MB (10085040 sectors), 10672 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 10 16:35:46 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 Jun 10 16:35:46 sinkhole /kernel: wd1: 10991MB (22510656 sectors), 1401 cyls, 255 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 10 16:35:46 sinkhole /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Jun 10 16:35:46 sinkhole /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, multi-block-16 Jun 10 16:35:46 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: 10991MB (22510656 sectors), 1401 cyls, 255 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S And if we also disable multi-block access: Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: wd0: 4924MB (10085040 sectors), 10672 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: wd1: 10991MB (22510656 sectors), 1401 cyls, 255 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: wd2: 10991MB (22510656 sectors), 1401 cyls, 255 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Other interesting configuration info: Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (233.86-MHz 686-class CPU) Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x634 Stepping=4 Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: Features=0x80f9ff Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: avail memory = 128958464 (125936K bytes) Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0:0 Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: chip1 rev 3 on pci0:1:0 Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: chip2 rev 1 on pci0:4:0 Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: chip3 rev 1 on pci0:4:1 Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: chip4 rev 1 int d irq 9 on pci0:4:2 Jun 10 17:01:56 sinkhole /kernel: chip5 rev 1 on pci0:4:3 Any ideas anyone? Thanks in advance, Mark _______________________________________________________________________________ Mark Mason Dragonfly Software Consulting Company. mason@dragonfly.rain.com 503-641-3440 (office) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 18:08:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01247 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01106 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:07:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kfurge@worldnet.att.net) From: kfurge@worldnet.att.net Received: from phaser.indy.net ([12.66.3.236]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980702010646.QLNH23521@phaser.indy.net>; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 01:06:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (kfurge@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phaser.indy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01059; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:43:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:43:41 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: kfurge@kcfhome.my.domain To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is MSDOS FS OK? In-Reply-To: <199807011407.XAA20534@cain.gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried the MSDOS code from about 2.5 months ago and had mixed success. I was talking to a SCSI zip disk through a ncr810 based controller card and things were fine as long as I stayed in the root directory. I could add, delete and copy to my hearts content. But as soon as I tried to manipulate files in a subdirectory, it slowly began to self destruct and then roasted the filesystem. This was on a standard fat16 fs on the zip disk. I don't know if this was a zip specific artifact or not. When I put a unix fs on it, it worked flawlessly. - K.C. On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > Does anyone have any reports of MSDOSFS stomping on drives? (I am interested in > the current version, as of today). > I realise there is no guarantee, but I'd like an idea of its danger before I > have a real fiddle with it :) > The partitions I want to use it on are a 499Mb FAT16 partition, and a 2.6Gb > FAT32 partition. > (I have tried it read only and it seems fine..) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | > |http://www.gsoft.com.au | > |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| > |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 18:24:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04857 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04758 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15774; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Mikhail Teterin cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/7059 (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:01:49 EDT." <199807011701.NAA08352@rtfm.ziplink.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 18:23:45 -0700 Message-ID: <15770.899342625@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is this a new policy for a PR database? This is only one of the > PRs I submitted, which are "suspended". It looks suspiciously like > dust that goes under carpet... I understand, there is lack of > time*people to fix them, but why suspend? My understanding is that phk is suspending them in preparation for moving the whole set into a different PR tracking mechanism of some sort. GNATs is not a very good mechanism for maintaining large databases of old PRs and the only alternative seemed to be total abandonment. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 20:22:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19635 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:22:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19615 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA05412 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:22:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199807020322.WAA05412@home.dragondata.com> Subject: -current wishlist To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:22:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if there's a Santa Claus on -current right now, but I've got a few suggestions/weak spots I see in -current now, and would be more than willing to help anyone wanting to work on these. I'm not that deep into the mysteries of the kernel to just do it myself, but I'm a willing test subject. :) 1) Fix de driver panics 2) Fix pidentd from screaming so much 3) Fix NFS (client inability to recover from server dying) 4) Fix NIS (client inability to recover from server dying) 5) Fix ccd under SMP 6) Fix ep driver 7) Fix NFS bug where certain files become inaccessable. Processes get stuck in vmpfw when you try to read them 8) Load average seems to have no bearing on how busy the system really is. last pid: 21803; load averages: 2.74, 2.82, 2.88 135 processes: 3 running, 131 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU states: 1.7% user, 0.0% nice, 1.3% system, 1.7% interrupt, 95.2% idle Mem: 75M Active, 12M Inact, 23M Wired, 6520K Cache, 8347K Buf, 8364K Free Swap: 164M Total, 25M Used, 139M Free, 16% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 21800 toasty 29 0 1664K 940K CPU0 1 0:00 2.15% 1.03% top If the load average is 2.74, how can the CPU be 95.2% idle? If it really is, what's it waiting on so much? Or am I just misinterpreting this? 9) init seems to occasionally die, and stop reaping zombies 10) NIS slave servers don't seem to work Anyone got anything to add to this? Any takers on wanting to fix it? :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 1 21:56:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01662 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01655 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:56:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07722; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199807020456.VAA07722@austin.polstra.com> To: mike@smith.net.au, ejh@mnw.eas.slu.edu Subject: Re: Disk drive errors Toshiba 6200M In-Reply-To: <199807011724.KAA00594@antipodes.cdrom.com> References: <199807011724.KAA00594@antipodes.cdrom.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 21:56:01 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199807011724.KAA00594@antipodes.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith wrote: > > I suspect that both disk drives may have problems > > but before i attempt to get warranty repair > > Could this be software related? ... > You need to upgrade the firmware on these drives. > > Get http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/firmware/micropolis_tomahawk.tar.gz. Yes. Also, there is a problem with the particular revision of the AIC-7880 SCSI controller that is in this box. Justin Gibbs just committed a work-around fix a day or two ago. So make sure you have a fully up-to-date -current kernel in addition to the firmware upgrade on the disk drives. -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 00:07:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18427 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18391; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199807020707.AAA18391@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: LBA support problems In-Reply-To: <199807012116.OAA27090@dragonfly.rain.com> from "mason@methane.dragonfly.rain.com" at "Jul 1, 98 02:16:41 pm" To: mason@methane.dragonfly.rain.com Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to mason@methane.dragonfly.rain.com who wrote: > Hello all, > > I've posted this to -current because while we're running FreeBSD > 2.2.6-RELEASE (mostly) this really deals with the LBA support (which > isn't a feature in a pure 2.2.6-RELEASE system). > > I'm seeing some strange behaviour on our system with the LBA support > that's been added to wd.c [snip snap] > Any ideas anyone? This works fine with -current, so your patches to 2.2 has gotten something wrong... BTW its not nessesary to run the drive in LBA mode when you use it for FreeBSD only, normal CHS mode will do just fine then... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 00:45:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25424 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25417 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id RAA07196; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:15:39 +0930 (CST) Received: by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA18300; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:15:38 +0930 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:15:37 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: kfurge@worldnet.att.net Cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is MSDOS FS OK? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For what it's worth, I have msdosfs running fine on 3 partitions (I dont recall having any problems since a nasty root cluster size problem was fixed back in the early 2.2 days last year). I use my /d and /e to store archived stuff on fairly regularly. Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1 872640 749120 123520 86% /c /dev/wd1s1 1023824 983776 40048 96% /d /dev/wd1s5 511760 308720 203040 60% /e I don't recall any problems hitting the mailing list recently, so I'd guess the fs is fairly stable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 01:54:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09789 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 01:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09687 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 01:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id KAA23554; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:45:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11218; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:28:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980702102856.A11204@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:28:56 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Kevin Day , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current wishlist References: <199807020322.WAA05412@home.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807020322.WAA05412@home.dragondata.com>; from Kevin Day on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 10:22:08PM -0500 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 10:22:08PM -0500, Kevin Day wrote: > > I don't know if there's a Santa Claus on -current right now, but I've got a > few suggestions/weak spots I see in -current now, and would be more than > willing to help anyone wanting to work on these. I'm not that deep into the > mysteries of the kernel to just do it myself, but I'm a willing test > subject. :) > [...] > 5) Fix ccd under SMP > [...] What problems ? I'm using ccd here since over a year without trouble. Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0s2a 31743 23340 5864 80% / /dev/sd0s2f 1029135 394221 552584 42% /usr /dev/sd0s2e 127023 27416 89446 23% /var /dev/ccd0c 198327 167213 15248 92% /obj /dev/ccd1c 198327 38089 144372 21% /news /dev/ccd2c 99055 51307 39824 56% /proxy /dev/ccd3c 3400078 2660168 467904 85% /home Currently I'm using SOFTUPDATES as well. # # Configuration file for concatenated disk devices # # ccd ileave flags component devices ccd0 128 none /dev/sd1s1e /dev/sd2s1e ccd1 128 none /dev/sd1s1f /dev/sd2s1f ccd2 128 none /dev/sd1s1g /dev/sd2s1g ccd3 128 none /dev/sd1s1h /dev/sd2s1h Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Jun 28 16:51:11 CEST 1998 root@titan.klemm.gtn.com:/home/src/sys/compile/ISDNSMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz cost 3611 ns CPU: Pentium Pro (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping=9 Features=0xfbff real memory = 83886080 (81920K bytes) avail memory = 78262272 (76428K bytes) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 vx0: <3COM 3C900 Etherlink XL PCI> rev 0x00 int a irq 19 on pci0.11.0 utp/aui/bnc[*utp*] address 00:60:97:aa:3a:db vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 18 on pci0.12.0 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 17 on pci0.13.0 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors) sd0: with 6703 cyls, 5 heads, and an average 126 sectors/track st0 at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 st0: type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0: Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty cd0 at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM cd present [232086 x 2048 byte records] ahc1: rev 0x03 int a irq 16 on pci0.14.0 ahc1: aic7870 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0 ahc1: target 1 Tagged Queuing Device sd1 at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors) sd1: with 6703 cyls, 5 heads, and an average 126 sectors/track ahc1: target 2 Tagged Queuing Device sd2 at scbus1 target 2 lun 0 sd2: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2: Direct-Access 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors) sd2: with 6703 cyls, 5 heads, and an average 126 sectors/track Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <4 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 10 maddr 0xd0000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:5a:98:2a, type WD8013EPC (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x20 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 pcm0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in isic0 at 0xd80 irq 9 flags 0x4 on isa isic0: Teles S0/16.3 isic0: ISAC 2085 Version A1/A2 or 2086/2186 Version 1.1 (IOM-2) (Addr=0x960) isic0: HSCX 82525 or 21525 Version 2.1 (AddrA=0x160, AddrB=0x560) npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers i4b: ISDN call control device attached i4bisppp: 4 ISDN SyncPPP device(s) attached i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached i4bipr: 4 IP over raw HDLC ISDN device(s) attached i4btel: 2 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached i4brbch: 4 raw B channel access device(s) attached i4btrc: 4 ISDN trace device(s) attached IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, logging limited to 500 packets/entry changing root device to sd0s2a SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ffs_mountfs: superblock updated ffs_mountfs: superblock updated ffs_mountfs: superblock updated ffs_mountfs: superblock updated ffs_mountfs: superblock updated vx0: selected utp. (link2) isppp0: phase establish i4b-L2-i4b_tei_assign: tx TEI ID_Request i4b-L2-i4b_T202_timeout: unit 0, N202 = 3 i4b-L2-i4b_tei_assign: tx TEI ID_Request i4b-L2-i4b_tei_rx_frame: TEI ID Assign - TEI = 78 isppp0: phase authenticate isppp0: phase network isppp0: phase terminate isppp0: phase dead -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more speed, for example, in kernel compilation ? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~fsmp/SMP/akgraph-a/graph1.html "NT = Not Today" (Maggie Biggs) ``powered by FreeBSD SMP'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 02:47:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA16108 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 02:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16102 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 02:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00578 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:47:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <359B572C.EFD5C099@tdx.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:47:24 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Filesystem corruption? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been running -current for a while, the last make world I did was 21/6/98. The systems been running fine, I had a couple of panic's over the last few months - but just recently I've been going to load files and found them corrupt... Things like: c---rw---x 844382393/478298378 54 Apr 17 13:21 mezon.config Doing an rm gets: rm c---rw---x 844382393/478298378, nochg, unlnk, sunlnk? Followed by: operation not permitted. Any further attempts to remove the file just get: operation not permitted. Some files also get random corruption in them... The filesystem is IDE based - I'm not using async or softupdates etc, just plain old mount defaults... Has anyone seen anything like this? Are there any 'stress' tests I can do on this filesystem? (something a little less risky/more informative than make worlds?) - the drive as it stands has /usr/obj mounted on it, but the source for the makeworlds is on another SCSI... Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 03:00:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18345 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from copernicus.cpt.tech.iafrica.com (oHkLV9cIfDYlgIVK+WX1reZnx0RyLqTZ@copernicus.cpt.tech.iafrica.com [196.31.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18230 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 02:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iang@iafrica.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=iafrica.com ident=[V5LUSa1nEEApOw/CSxDCiB6IjejtQkCH]) by copernicus.cpt.tech.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for freebsd-current@freebsd.org id 0yrfm3-0007mc-00; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:35:27 +0200 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SCSI problems on aic7880 X-Attribution: BOFH Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 11:35:26 +0200 Message-ID: <29921.899372126@iafrica.com> From: Ian Freislich Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi After a while (3 mins from boot to a day or so) I start getting the following messages on my console: (this sequence repeats infinitely so I'm not sure if the SCSI problem causes the pager problem or the other way around) My kernel config has the follwing relevant lines: options AHC_TAGENABLE options AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE controller ahc0 controller scbus0 at ahc0 device cd0 device sd0 device st0 I have a Gigabyte 686DLX motherboard with one PII-266. Does anyone have any ideas? ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 3 SCBs aborted spec_getpages: I/O read failure: (Error code=5) size: 8192, resid: 8192, a_count: 8192, valid: 0x0 nread: 0, reqpage 1, pindex 3, pcount 2 vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 274 failure sd0: SCB 0x3 - timed out in message in phase, SCSIIGI == 0xe6 SEQADDR = 0xca SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x2 SSTAT1 = 0x3 sd0: abort message in message buffer sd0: SCB 0x3 - timed out in message in phase, SCSIIGI == 0xf6 SEQADDR = 0xca SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x2 SSTAT1 = 0x3 sd0: no longer in timeout ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 3 SCBs aborted sd1: SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SCSIIGI == 0xe6 SEQADDR = 0xca SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x2 SSTAT1 = 0x3 sd1: abort message in message buffer sd1: SCB 0x3 - timed out in message in phase, SCSIIGI == 0xf6 SEQADDR = 0xca SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x2 SSTAT1 = 0x3 sd0: no longer in timeout ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 3 SCBs aborted sd1: SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SCSIIGI == 0xe6 SEQADDR = 0xca SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x2 SSTAT1 = 0x3 sd1: abort message in message buffer sd1: SCB 0x3 - timed out in message in phase, SCSIIGI == 0xf6 SEQADDR = 0xca SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x2 SSTAT1 = 0x3 sd0: no longer in timeout ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 3 SCBs aborted sd1: SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SCSIIGI == 0xe6 SEQADDR = 0xca SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x2 SSTAT1 = 0x3 sd1: abort message in message buffer sd1: SCB 0x3 - timed out in message in phase, SCSIIGI == 0xf6 SEQADDR = 0xca SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x2 SSTAT1 = 0x3 sd0: no longer in timeout -- Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 03:05:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19260 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (geos01.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com [134.32.44.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19252 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smoergrd@geos01.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com) Received: from sunw132.geco-prakla.slb.com (sunw132 [134.32.45.120]) by oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA23058 ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:04:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by sunw132.geco-prakla.slb.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA07719; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:04:28 +0200 To: Bill Paul Cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fatal trap 12' on boot (smp and up) References: <199806302138.RAA05124@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Organization: Schlumberger Geco-Prakla X-Disclaimer: I speak only for myself. From: smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav) Date: 02 Jul 1998 12:04:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: Bill Paul's message of Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Paul writes: > I disassembled the boot block from an MS-DOG floppy and it has > the following structure: > > - short jump to 'foo' > - no-op instruction > - the string "MSDOS5.0" (8 bytes) > - some junk (33 bytes) > - the string "NO NAME FAT12 " (19 bytes) > - foo (start of boot block code) Now really, you can do better than that... What you call junk is actually a table of disk geometry and file system parameters. The jump jumps past this to the start of the code; the nop is there so you can put in a 3-byte long jump if you need to (i.e. if you have more than 127 bytes of data, since the short jump displacement is a signed char). The first string is the name of the creator, e.g. the program that formatted the disk; it can be whatever you like. The "junk" is a rather badly laid out structure which contains the partition ID and the size of the disk, the FATs and the root directory. The second string is actually two strings; one 11-byte disk label and one 8-byte file system type. ISTR the LILO technical manual and/or the LILO howto contain information about the structure of the MS-DOS boot sector. I have written a rather lengthy doc about it myself which I'm sure must be on one of those MO floppies I have lying about at home... DES (brushes the dust off his trusty old MO drive) -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 03:06:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19310 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19268 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.12-nospam) with ESMTP id MAA13864; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:05:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8/pb-19980526) id MAA27532; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:05:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pb) Message-ID: <19980702120540.A27435@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:05:40 +0200 From: Pierre Beyssac To: Kevin Day , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current wishlist References: <199807020322.WAA05412@home.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.8i In-Reply-To: <199807020322.WAA05412@home.dragondata.com>; from Kevin Day on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 10:22:08PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 10:22:08PM -0500, Kevin Day wrote: > 8) Load average seems to have no bearing on how busy the system really is. I see this one sometimes too: load average stuck over 1 with all processes idle. The real load average seems to be more like (displayed load average - 1). -- Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 05:06:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08536 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:06:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.133.1] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08531 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:06:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01874 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:04:35 +0200 (CEST) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: interrupt latency data available From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:04:35 +0200 Message-ID: <1872.899381075@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.freebsd.org/\~phk/interruptlatency.ps.gz -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 05:27:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11864 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goliath.camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11855 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thyerm@camtech.net.au) Received: from camtech.net.au (dialup-ad-3-12.camtech.net.au [203.28.0.108]) by goliath.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id VAA02860; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:53:43 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <359B7C7E.AF64B3D@camtech.net.au> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:56:38 +0930 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway CC: kfurge@worldnet.att.net, "Daniel O'Connor" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is MSDOS FS OK? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I regularly read and write my FAT32 dos partition these days without problem. There were major problems in the past. I badly trashed a FAT16 partition when writing to it after mounting from a FreeBSD boot disk from a 2.2 Snapshot of 23 March 1996. Kris Kennaway wrote: > > For what it's worth, I have msdosfs running fine on 3 partitions (I dont > recall having any problems since a nasty root cluster size problem was > fixed back in the early 2.2 days last year). I use my /d and /e to store > archived stuff on fairly regularly. > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/wd0s1 872640 749120 123520 86% /c > /dev/wd1s1 1023824 983776 40048 96% /d > /dev/wd1s5 511760 308720 203040 60% /e > > I don't recall any problems hitting the mailing list recently, so I'd > guess the fs is fairly stable. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- /=====================================================================\ |Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au| \=====================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 05:36:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13006 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:36:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12938 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from scotty.masternet.it (modem00.masternet.it [194.184.65.254]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00838 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:31:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <359B7EBA.7AB37573@scotty.masternet.it> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:36:10 +0200 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Reply-To: gmarco@giovannelli.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: doscmd fails to build Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ... and break make world... cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/int1a.c cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/int2f.c cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c: In function `int2f11_lseek': /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c:453: parse error before `;' *** Error code 1 -- Regards... Gianmarco "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 06:27:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20259 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kong.dorms.spbu.ru (kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru [195.19.252.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20226 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru) Received: from localhost (kong@localhost) by kong.dorms.spbu.ru (8.8.8/kong/0.01) with SMTP id RAA19053 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:27:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:27:26 +0400 (MSD) From: Hostas Red To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cannot build world for 4 days now Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm still cannot make world for 4 days now, cvsup'ing regular, last was an couple of hours ago. It stops the same place every time: --- _EXTRADEPEND --- echo suidperl: `cc -Wl,-f -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/sperl/../perl -DIAMSUID -DTAINT -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -Wl,-lm -Wl,-lcrypt` >> .depend ===> gnu/usr.sbin --- depend --- 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error What i'm getting wrong? (NOCLEAN is false ;) Adios, /KONG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 06:47:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23713 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:47:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23699 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:47:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by dns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA18936; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:46:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <359B8FAC.6F7647C9@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 08:48:28 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gmarco@giovannelli.it CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doscmd fails to build References: <359B7EBA.7AB37573@scotty.masternet.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > > ... and break make world... > > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/int1a.c > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/int2f.c > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c > /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c: In function `int2f11_lseek': > /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c:453: parse error before `;' > *** Error code 1 > > -- > > Regards... > > Gianmarco > "Unix expert since yesterday" > > http://www.giovannelli.it > here too. Same problem. Thanks ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 07:04:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26176 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from indigo.ie (root@ts01-55.waterford.indigo.ie [194.125.139.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26167 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rotel@indigo.ie) Received: (from nsmart@localhost) by indigo.ie (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA00699; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:53:59 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from rotel@ginseng.indigo.ie) From: Niall Smart Message-Id: <199807021353.OAA00699@indigo.ie> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:53:59 +0000 In-Reply-To: Karl Pielorz "Filesystem corruption?" (Jul 2, 10:47am) Reply-To: rotel@indigo.ie X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(3) 11/17/96) To: Karl Pielorz , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Jul 2, 10:47am, Karl Pielorz wrote: } Subject: Filesystem corruption? > > The systems been running fine, I had a couple of panic's over the last few > months - but just recently I've been going to load files and found them > corrupt... > > Things like: > c---rw---x 844382393/478298378 54 Apr 17 13:21 mezon.config > Doing an rm gets: > rm c---rw---x 844382393/478298378, nochg, unlnk, sunlnk? > Followed by: > operation not permitted. > Any further attempts to remove the file just get: > operation not permitted. > Some files also get random corruption in them... Looks like either your disk is hosed or the filesystem on it is corrupt. Use chflags chg,nounlnk,nosunlnk mezon.config before trying to remove it (see chflags(1)). Niall -- Niall Smart. PGP: finger njs3@motmot.doc.ic.ac.uk FreeBSD: Turning PC's into Workstations: www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 07:19:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29675 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:19:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29647; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199807021419.HAA29647@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: HEADS UP, IMPORTANT!! To: current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD current), committers Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:19:22 -0700 (PDT) From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So, I took yet another sweep at getting world to build again, *SIGH* Can I kindly demand that people TEST their patches before committing to the tree, please! It is mandatory to secure that things still compile after a change, the least is a recompile of the given program if the change is located only to a specific part of the tree, and if the change is to multiple targets, a complete make world has to survive before committing the changes. If we cannot get this into shape, so -current at least compiles, then we will have to start putting more restrictions on what goes into the tree, and who has access to the crown jewels. I hope this gets the message across, it would be sad if we had to start restricting the tree, just because of laziness... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 07:32:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01950 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [207.51.48.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01933 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:32:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbriggs@switchboard.net) Received: from switchboard.net (alex-va-n013c109.moon.jic.com [208.135.210.119]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.8.8/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA12761 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359B9A24.FAA2471D@switchboard.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:33:08 -0400 From: "Matthew R. Briggs" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SMP Problems Update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Some time ago I wrote about severe difficulties I was having running FreeBSD-CURRENT on a dual P2-333 system. The system was extremely unstable, and it was possible to wedge it quite easily with a parallel make of a port with many dependencies or a make world. Last night I wiped my FreeBSD partition and reinstalled with the SNAP from 6/27. I had previously installed on 5/27, and had built the world a couple times since then. I had also compiled new SMP kernels on almost a daily basis. I don't know what changed, but with the new SNAP, a quick cvsup, and an SMP kernel compilation using a config file I carried over, the system seems to work fine. I have been trying very hard to crash it, sitting on pins and needles saying to myself, "it's going to fall over any second now," as I watched compilation messages scroll by, but it hasn't yet. I've been pushing it very hard, and it continues to impress me. I only recently subscribed to the src/sys cvs mailing list, so I don't know what may have changed, but whoever did it, thanks. I can now start using FreeBSD in a serious way, and maybe even contribute myself. Matt Briggs mbriggs@switchboard.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 08:08:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06420 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:08:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06415 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA03608 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:08:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: ben@rosengart.com To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world dies in libskey Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ===> libskey cc -pipe -DPERMIT_CONSOLE -D_SKEY_INTERNAL -I/usr/src/lib/libskey -W -Wall -Werror -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libskey/skeyaccess.c -o skeyaccess.o *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Am I doing something wrong, or has current not been buildworthy for several days now? This is frustrating. Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 08:21:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07983 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07971 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:20:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA18837; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:20:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199807021520.KAA18837@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: -current wishlist In-Reply-To: <19980702102856.A11204@klemm.gtn.com> from Andreas Klemm at "Jul 2, 98 10:28:56 am" To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:20:51 -0500 (CDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 10:22:08PM -0500, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > I don't know if there's a Santa Claus on -current right now, but I've got a > > few suggestions/weak spots I see in -current now, and would be more than > > willing to help anyone wanting to work on these. I'm not that deep into the > > mysteries of the kernel to just do it myself, but I'm a willing test > > subject. :) > > [...] > > 5) Fix ccd under SMP > > [...] > > What problems ? > I get random 'Page fault while in kernel mode', then lockups before I can do a trace. Seperating the two drives into non-ccd paritions makes it go away, adding them back as a ccd drive starts it again.. Is it just me? :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 08:31:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09946 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from compound.east.sun.com ([208.141.230.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09895 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@compound.east.sun.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id KAA13841; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:32:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:32:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cron cannot fork X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13723.42917.826169.239164@compound.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For as long as I can remember, cron has been failing to fork if I'm running any sort of make. I have copious swap. Can anyone explain this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 08:40:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12028 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11853; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199807021539.IAA11853@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: doscmd fails to build In-Reply-To: <359B8FAC.6F7647C9@webwizard.org.mx> from Edwin Culp at "Jul 2, 98 08:48:28 am" To: eculp@webwizard.org.mx (Edwin Culp) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: gmarco@giovannelli.it, current@FreeBSD.ORG From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Edwin Culp who wrote: I've fixed this and a couple of other nits... Could people PLEASE test thier stuff before comitting it ??? > Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > > > > ... and break make world... > > > > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/int1a.c > > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/int2f.c > > cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c > > /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c: In function `int2f11_lseek': > > /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c:453: parse error before `;' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > -- > > > > Regards... > > > > Gianmarco > > "Unix expert since yesterday" > > > > http://www.giovannelli.it > > > here too. Same problem. > > Thanks > > ed > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 08:44:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13236 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13170; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:44:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199807021544.IAA13170@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: make world dies in libskey In-Reply-To: from Snob Art Genre at "Jul 2, 98 11:08:49 am" To: ben@rosengart.com Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Snob Art Genre who wrote: Oh, well, I've just fixed some other nits, and a make world has succeded here. I think we are into business again. Current has been in a terrible shapre lately, so people PLEASE TEST YOUR STUFF BEFORE COMMITTING.... > ===> libskey > cc -pipe -DPERMIT_CONSOLE -D_SKEY_INTERNAL -I/usr/src/lib/libskey -W > -Wall -Werror -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/src/lib/libskey/skeyaccess.c -o skeyaccess.o > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Am I doing something wrong, or has current not been buildworthy for > several days now? This is frustrating. > > > > Ben > > "You have your mind on computers, it seems." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 09:00:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17266 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ConSys.COM (ConSys.COM [209.141.107.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17257 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: (from pinyon@localhost) by ConSys.COM (8.8.6/8.8.6) id JAA11991 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:00:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:00:43 -0700 (MST) From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-Id: <199807021600.JAA11991@ConSys.COM> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies in libskey Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And there's trouble lurking still in them thar lkm's; a check showed that Bruce fixed two of the opt_xxx.h's but there still needs to be something done about opt_nfs.h. (at least). This was about 12h ago, and I don't see any mention in cvs-all. Russell |Subject: make world dies in libskey |MIME-Version: 1.0 |Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII |Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG |X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | |===> libskey |cc -pipe -DPERMIT_CONSOLE -D_SKEY_INTERNAL -I/usr/src/lib/libskey -W |-Wall -Werror -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c |/usr/src/lib/libskey/skeyaccess.c -o skeyaccess.o |*** Error code 1 | |Stop. |*** Error code 1 | |Stop. |*** Error code 1 | |Stop. |*** Error code 1 | |Stop. |*** Error code 1 | |Stop. | |Am I doing something wrong, or has current not been buildworthy for |several days now? This is frustrating. | | | | Ben | |"You have your mind on computers, it seems." | | |To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org |with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 09:56:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26966 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26958 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id KAA05263; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:47:54 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:47:54 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199807021647.KAA05263@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Ian Freislich cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI problems on aic7880 Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: <29921.899372126@iafrica.com> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <29921.899372126@iafrica.com> you wrote: > Hi > > After a while (3 mins from boot to a day or so) I start getting > the following messages on my console: > (this sequence repeats infinitely so I'm not sure if the SCSI > problem causes the pager problem or the other way around) ... > Does anyone have any ideas? ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 10:52:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05059 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from sos@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05013; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:52:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199807021752.KAA05013@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: make world dies in libskey In-Reply-To: <199807021600.JAA11991@ConSys.COM> from "Russell L. Carter" at "Jul 2, 98 09:00:43 am" To: rcarter@pinyon.org (Russell L. Carter) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Russell L. Carter who wrote: > > And there's trouble lurking still in them thar > lkm's; a check showed that Bruce fixed two > of the opt_xxx.h's but there still needs to > be something done about opt_nfs.h. (at least). > This was about 12h ago, and I don't see > any mention in cvs-all. > I fixed those in lkm/nfs couble of hours ago, world builds here now... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 11:37:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14134 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gloria.cord.edu (twschulz@gloria.cord.edu [138.129.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14125 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:37:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twschulz@gloria.cord.edu) Received: from localhost (twschulz@localhost) by gloria.cord.edu (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA29910 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:37:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:37:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Trenton Schulz To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is MSDOS FS OK? In-Reply-To: <359B7C7E.AF64B3D@camtech.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also do reads and writes to my FAT32 partition (even though I've set up a strange partition table for it 512 byte clusters). I'm really been pleased. although the original FAT32 patch would hang during writes, it now seems to work excellent as I've sent many megabytes between both sides, I'm hoping that it will be commited to -stable Awesome work guys, Trenton Schulz twschulz@cord.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 12:28:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22821 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:28:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22808; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA11962; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:28:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: ben@rosengart.com To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG cc: "Russell L. Carter" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies in libskey In-Reply-To: <199807021752.KAA05013@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 sos@freebsd.org wrote: > world builds here now... I'm still dying in libskey. ===> libskey cc -pipe -DPERMIT_CONSOLE -D_SKEY_INTERNAL -I/usr/src/lib/libskey -W -Wall -Werror -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libskey/skeyaccess.c -o skeyaccess.o cc1: warnings being treated as errors /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/stdio.h:348: warning: `__sputc' defined but not used /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/ctype.h:146: warning: `__maskrune' defined but not used /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/ctype.h:160: warning: `__toupper' defined but not used /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/ctype.h:167: warning: `__tolower' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 12:30:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23119 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23112 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA02928; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:30:13 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id VAA18271; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:30:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980702213011.35162@follo.net> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:30:11 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Kevin Day , Andreas Klemm Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current wishlist References: <19980702102856.A11204@klemm.gtn.com> <199807021520.KAA18837@home.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199807021520.KAA18837@home.dragondata.com>; from Kevin Day on Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 10:20:51AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 10:20:51AM -0500, Kevin Day wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 10:22:08PM -0500, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > > > I don't know if there's a Santa Claus on -current right now, but I've got a > > > few suggestions/weak spots I see in -current now, and would be more than > > > willing to help anyone wanting to work on these. I'm not that deep into the > > > mysteries of the kernel to just do it myself, but I'm a willing test > > > subject. :) > > > [...] > > > 5) Fix ccd under SMP > > > [...] > > > > What problems ? > > > > I get random 'Page fault while in kernel mode', then lockups before I can do > a trace. Seperating the two drives into non-ccd paritions makes it go away, > adding them back as a ccd drive starts it again.. Is it just me? :) These fix a couple of reasons for such problems, I think. They're completely untested. Feel free to test them :-) They're part of a large fix-set I've got; unfortunately, the (commercial) tools I use to find problems require a lot of 'pointless' changes, including error control comments. This means that extracting individual fixes such as the below can be quite a bit of work, and committing the 'pointless' changes has been deemed deterimental to everybody that don't have the tools... Index: ccd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ccd/ccd.c,v retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.32 ccd.c --- ccd.c 1998/03/09 20:39:26 1.32 +++ ccd.c 1998/05/31 01:10:56 @@ -427,7 +433,7 @@ printf("ccd%d: interleave must be at least %d\n", ccd->ccd_unit, (maxsecsize / DEV_BSIZE)); #endif - while (ci >= cs->sc_cinfo) { + while (ci && ci >= cs->sc_cinfo) { free(ci->ci_path, M_DEVBUF); ci--; } @@ -792,14 +801,16 @@ rcount = cbp[0]->cb_buf.b_bcount; if ((cbp[0]->cb_buf.b_flags & B_READ) == 0) cbp[0]->cb_buf.b_vp->v_numoutput++; - VOP_STRATEGY(&cbp[0]->cb_buf); + /* XXX VOP_STRATEGY can fail - add error checking? */ + (void)VOP_STRATEGY(&cbp[0]->cb_buf); if (cs->sc_cflags & CCDF_MIRROR && (cbp[0]->cb_buf.b_flags & B_READ) == 0) { /* mirror, start another write */ cbp[1]->cb_buf.b_vp->v_numoutput++; - VOP_STRATEGY(&cbp[1]->cb_buf); + /* XXX VOP_STRATEGY can fail - add error checking? */ + (void)VOP_STRATEGY(&cbp[1]->cb_buf); } bn += btodb(rcount); addr += rcount; } } @@ -918,7 +929,8 @@ #endif cb[0] = cbp; if (cs->sc_cflags & CCDF_MIRROR && - (cbp->cb_buf.b_flags & B_READ) == 0) { + (cbp->cb_buf.b_flags & B_READ) == 0 + && ci2) { /* mirror, start one more write */ cbp = getccdbuf(); bzero(cbp, sizeof (struct ccdbuf)); Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 14:14:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10559 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from top.worldcontrol.com (surf54.cruzers.com [205.215.232.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10554 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@worldcontrol.com) From: brian@worldcontrol.com Received: (qmail 4497 invoked by uid 100); 2 Jul 1998 21:15:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19980702141521.A4466@top.worldcontrol.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:15:21 -0700 To: Ian Freislich , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI problems on aic7880 Mail-Followup-To: Ian Freislich , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <29921.899372126@iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <29921.899372126@iafrica.com>; from Ian Freislich on Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 11:35:26AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On %M 0, Ian Freislich wrote: > Hi > > After a while (3 mins from boot to a day or so) I start getting > the following messages on my console: > (this sequence repeats infinitely so I'm not sure if the SCSI > problem causes the pager problem or the other way around) I have repeatable problems with the aic7880. The same problems do not appear on the aic7870. I suggest you find a aic7870 based board. CAM may solve the problem, however, I am unable to use it due to a lack of CD burning facility. -- Brian Litzinger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 14:36:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13379 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13319; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA04164; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 07:47:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199807022147.HAA04164@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: make world dies in libskey In-Reply-To: from Snob Art Genre at "Jul 2, 98 03:28:30 pm" To: ben@rosengart.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 07:47:54 +1000 (EST) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, rcarter@pinyon.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Snob Art Genre wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 sos@freebsd.org wrote: > > > world builds here now... > > I'm still dying in libskey. > > ===> libskey > cc -pipe -DPERMIT_CONSOLE -D_SKEY_INTERNAL -I/usr/src/lib/libskey -W > -Wall -Werror -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c Looks like you've got CFLAGS set in /etc/make.conf. Without -O, you get unused inline static function warnings that -Werror barfs at. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 16:46:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00319 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:46:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00283 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by dns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA03938 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:45:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <359C1BF4.3BA3E31B@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 18:47:00 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Make World Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the third time my make world has failed today and at three different places. At least it isn't boring :-) This time it stopped at doscmd. cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/int2f.c cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c: In function `int2f11_lseek\': /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/intff.c:453: parse error before `;\' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Has it been fixed, yet? Thanks ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 17:36:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06970 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06962 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA04624; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:35:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199807030035.TAA04624@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: -current wishlist In-Reply-To: <19980702213011.35162@follo.net> from Eivind Eklund at "Jul 2, 98 09:30:11 pm" To: eivind@yes.no (Eivind Eklund) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:35:30 -0500 (CDT) Cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > These fix a couple of reasons for such problems, I think. They're > completely untested. Feel free to test them :-) > I'll give them a try. :) However... > > Index: ccd.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ccd/ccd.c,v > retrieving revision 1.32 > diff -u -r1.32 ccd.c > --- ccd.c 1998/03/09 20:39:26 1.32 > +++ ccd.c 1998/05/31 01:10:56 > @@ -427,7 +433,7 @@ > printf("ccd%d: interleave must be at least %d\n", > ccd->ccd_unit, (maxsecsize / DEV_BSIZE)); > #endif > - while (ci >= cs->sc_cinfo) { > + while (ci && ci >= cs->sc_cinfo) { > free(ci->ci_path, M_DEVBUF); > ci--; > } I'm not quite sure I understand how this would help. If this were happening, shouldn't ccd blow up all over the place? :) Or is it just a case of 'lets make really sure'? :) > @@ -918,7 +929,8 @@ > #endif > cb[0] = cbp; > if (cs->sc_cflags & CCDF_MIRROR && > - (cbp->cb_buf.b_flags & B_READ) == 0) { > + (cbp->cb_buf.b_flags & B_READ) == 0 > + && ci2) { > /* mirror, start one more write */ > cbp = getccdbuf(); > bzero(cbp, sizeof (struct ccdbuf)); I'm not mirroring, so I doubt this is the cause.. (if that helps you narrow things down) In any case, thanks a lot, I'll apply and see what happens. :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 17:39:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07465 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07455 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA08924; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:39:47 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id CAA23450; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:39:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980703023945.08867@follo.net> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:39:45 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Kevin Day Cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current wishlist References: <19980702213011.35162@follo.net> <199807030035.TAA04624@home.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199807030035.TAA04624@home.dragondata.com>; from Kevin Day on Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 07:35:30PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 07:35:30PM -0500, Kevin Day wrote: > > These fix a couple of reasons for such problems, I think. They're > > completely untested. Feel free to test them :-) > > > > I'll give them a try. :) > > However... > > > > > Index: ccd.c > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ccd/ccd.c,v > > retrieving revision 1.32 > > diff -u -r1.32 ccd.c > > --- ccd.c 1998/03/09 20:39:26 1.32 > > +++ ccd.c 1998/05/31 01:10:56 > > @@ -427,7 +433,7 @@ > > printf("ccd%d: interleave must be at least %d\n", > > ccd->ccd_unit, (maxsecsize / DEV_BSIZE)); > > #endif > > - while (ci >= cs->sc_cinfo) { > > + while (ci && ci >= cs->sc_cinfo) { > > free(ci->ci_path, M_DEVBUF); > > ci--; > > } > > I'm not quite sure I understand how this would help. If this were happening, > shouldn't ccd blow up all over the place? :) Or is it just a case of 'lets > make really sure'? :) This one only strikes in an obscure error condition WRT a previous malloc, IIRC. > > @@ -918,7 +929,8 @@ > > #endif > > cb[0] = cbp; > > if (cs->sc_cflags & CCDF_MIRROR && > > - (cbp->cb_buf.b_flags & B_READ) == 0) { > > + (cbp->cb_buf.b_flags & B_READ) == 0 > > + && ci2) { > > /* mirror, start one more write */ > > cbp = getccdbuf(); > > bzero(cbp, sizeof (struct ccdbuf)); > > I'm not mirroring, so I doubt this is the cause.. (if that helps you narrow > things down) Not really - I'm not running CCD, as I said. I just do patches based on 'obvious errors'. > In any case, thanks a lot, I'll apply and see what happens. :) You're welcome. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 18:02:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09906 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:02:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from csns02.comp.polyu.edu.hk (csns02.comp.polyu.edu.hk [158.132.25.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09820 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from c5666305@comp.polyu.edu.hk) Received: from cssolar85.COMP.HKP.HK (cssolar85 [158.132.8.174]) by csns02.comp.polyu.edu.hk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18799 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:01:07 +0800 (HKT) Received: (from c5666305@localhost) by cssolar85.COMP.HKP.HK (SMI-8.6/) id JAA14702 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:01:06 +0800 Message-Id: <199807030101.JAA14702@cssolar85.COMP.HKP.HK> Subject: winfast 3D L2300 support by XFree86 3.3.2 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:01:05 +0800 (HKT) From: "c5666305" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I had checked the XFree86 to see if it supports the winfast L2300 which use 3D Labs Permedia 2 chipset with no particular answer. I would like to know if anyone using it (PCI version) under SMP. If so, please let me know how to do it. Thanks. Clarence CHAN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 19:13:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19843 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:13:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19817; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12629; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:13:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd012611; Thu Jul 2 19:12:58 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA18252; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:12:56 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199807030212.TAA18252@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: make world dies in libskey To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:12:56 +0000 (GMT) Cc: rcarter@pinyon.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199807021752.KAA05013@hub.freebsd.org> from "sos@freebsd.org" at Jul 2, 98 10:52:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I fixed those in lkm/nfs couble of hours ago, world builds here now... I somehow get this feeling that if another "machine enforcement of rules of engagement for the source tree" thread were to arise (for example, from people jumping down my throat for merely mentioning it in this posting ;-)), Soren might be in my corner this time... 8-) 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 19:16:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20538 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:16:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (daemon@smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20517 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22034; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:16:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd021965; Thu Jul 2 19:16:27 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA18411; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:16:23 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199807030216.TAA18411@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: -current wishlist To: eivind@yes.no (Eivind Eklund) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:16:23 +0000 (GMT) Cc: toasty@home.dragondata.com, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980702213011.35162@follo.net> from "Eivind Eklund" at Jul 2, 98 09:30:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > They're part of a large fix-set I've got; unfortunately, the > (commercial) tools I use to find problems require a lot of 'pointless' > changes, including error control comments. This means that extracting > individual fixes such as the below can be quite a bit of work, and > committing the 'pointless' changes has been deemed deterimental to > everybody that don't have the tools... What tools are you using? Something from McCabe systems, perhaps, which costs ~$55,000 a seat? If so: I really, really like them... 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 19:39:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24209 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (ken@panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24200 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA13486; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:39:05 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199807030239.UAA13486@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: SCSI problems on aic7880 In-Reply-To: <19980702141521.A4466@top.worldcontrol.com> from "brian@worldcontrol.com" at "Jul 2, 98 02:15:21 pm" To: brian@worldcontrol.com Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:39:04 -0600 (MDT) Cc: iang@iafrica.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG brian@worldcontrol.com wrote... > On %M 0, Ian Freislich wrote: > > Hi > > > > After a while (3 mins from boot to a day or so) I start getting > > the following messages on my console: > > (this sequence repeats infinitely so I'm not sure if the SCSI > > problem causes the pager problem or the other way around) > > I have repeatable problems with the aic7880. The same problems do > not appear on the aic7870. I suggest you find a aic7870 based board. > > CAM may solve the problem, however, I am unable to use it due to a > lack of CD burning facility. Well, this is your lucky day. Check out: ftp://ftp.kdm.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/cdrecord-1.6-cam.980630.tar.gz It's a CAM port of cdrecord, thanks to Mike Smith. I have tested it with my Plextor 4/12 Max, and it seems to work fine. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 20:09:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27005 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles183.castles.com [208.214.165.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27000 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03446; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807030309.UAA03446@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: brian@worldcontrol.com cc: Ian Freislich , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI problems on aic7880 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:15:21 PDT." <19980702141521.A4466@top.worldcontrol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_5545622880" Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:09:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_5545622880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On %M 0, Ian Freislich wrote: > > Hi > > > > After a while (3 mins from boot to a day or so) I start getting > > the following messages on my console: > > (this sequence repeats infinitely so I'm not sure if the SCSI > > problem causes the pager problem or the other way around) > > I have repeatable problems with the aic7880. The same problems do > not appear on the aic7870. I suggest you find a aic7870 based board. > > CAM may solve the problem, however, I am unable to use it due to a > lack of CD burning facility. Please find attached patches for cdrecord 1.6a12. These have already been submitted to the CAM people and Joerg Schilling, but it sounds like the urgency level is rising. You need to set the following environment variables before building: COPTX= -DBSD_CAM LDOPTX= -lcam (Note that the patch was cleaned slightly by hand, as I just realised it was full of junk. It should still work though.) --==_Exmh_5545622880 Content-Type: text/plain; name="camdiff"; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: camdiff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="camdiff" diff -ru cdrecord-1.6.orig/cdrecord/cdrecord.c cdrecord-1.6/cdrecord/cdrecord.c --- cdrecord-1.6.orig/cdrecord/cdrecord.c Thu Mar 12 14:42:11 1998 +++ cdrecord-1.6/cdrecord/cdrecord.c Mon Jun 29 16:37:12 1998 @@ -1709,6 +1709,13 @@ { struct sched_param scp; + /* + * Verify that scheduling is available + */ + if (sysconf(_SC_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING) == -1) { + errmsg("WARNING: RR-scheduler not available, disabling.\n"); + return(0); + } fillbytes(&scp, sizeof(scp), '\0'); scp.sched_priority = sched_get_priority_max(SCHED_RR) - pri; if (sched_setscheduler(0, SCHED_RR, &scp) < 0) { diff -ru cdrecord-1.6.orig/cdrecord/scsi-bsd.c cdrecord-1.6/cdrecord/scsi-bsd.c --- cdrecord-1.6.orig/cdrecord/scsi-bsd.c Sun Aug 31 15:25:17 1997 +++ cdrecord-1.6/cdrecord/scsi-bsd.c Tue Jun 2 15:27:20 1998 @@ -30,6 +30,8 @@ * the Free Software Foundation, 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA. */ +#ifndef BSD_CAM + #undef sense #include @@ -283,3 +285,194 @@ return (ret); } #define sense u_sense.Sense + +#else /* BSD_CAM */ +/* + * Interface for the FreeBSD CAM passthrough device. + * + * Copyright (c) 1998 Michael Smith + * All rights reserved. + * + * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without + * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions + * are met: + * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright + * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. + * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright + * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the + * documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. + * + * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND + * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE + * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE + * ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE + * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL + * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS + * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) + * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT + * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY + * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF + * SUCH DAMAGE. + * + */ + +#undef sense +#define scsi_sense CAM_scsi_sense +#define scsi_inquiry CAM_scsi_inquiry +#include +#include +#include +#include +#include + +#define CAM_MAXDEVS 128 +struct cam_device *cam_devices[CAM_MAXDEVS + 1]; + +/* + * Build a list of everything we can find. + */ +EXPORT +int scsi_open() +{ + struct cam_device *dev; + char name[16]; + int unit; + + bzero(cam_devices, sizeof(cam_devices)); + + for (unit = 0; unit < CAM_MAXDEVS; unit++) { + sprintf(name, "pass%d", unit); + cam_devices[unit] = cam_open_device(name, O_RDWR); + } + return(unit); +} + +LOCAL +long scsi_maxdma() +{ + return (MAXPHYS); +} + +EXPORT void * +scsi_getbuf(amt) + long amt; +{ + void *ret; + + if (scg_maxdma == 0) + scg_maxdma = MAXPHYS; + + if (amt <= 0 || amt > scg_maxdma) + return ((void *)0); + if (debug) + printf("scsi_getbuf: %ld bytes\n", amt); + ret = valloc((size_t)(amt)); + return (ret); +} + +EXPORT +BOOL scsi_havebus(int busno) +{ + int unit; + + for (unit = 0; cam_devices[unit] != NULL; unit++) + if (cam_devices[unit]->path_id == busno) + return(1); + return(0); +} + +EXPORT +int scsi_fileno(bus, unit, lun) +{ + int i; + + for (i = 0; cam_devices[i] != NULL; i++) + if ((cam_devices[i]->path_id == bus) && + (cam_devices[i]->target_id == unit) && + (cam_devices[i]->target_lun == lun)) + return(i); + + fprintf(stderr, "lookup for %d,%d,%d failed\n", bus, unit, lun); + return(-1); +} + +EXPORT +int scsireset() +{ + /* XXX synchronous reset command - is this wise? */ +} + +LOCAL int +scsi_send(int unit, struct scg_cmd *sp) +{ + struct cam_device *dev; + union ccb *ccb; + int rv, result; + u_int32_t ccb_flags; + + if (unit < 0) { + fprintf(stderr, "attempt to reference invalid unit %d\n", unit); + sp->error = SCG_FATAL; + return (0); + } + + dev = cam_devices[unit]; + ccb = cam_getccb(dev); + + /* Build the CCB */ + bzero(&ccb->csio, sizeof(struct ccb_scsiio)); + bcopy(sp->cdb.cmd_cdb, &ccb->csio.cdb_io.cdb_bytes, sp->cdb_len); + + /* Request simple error recovery */ + ccb_flags = CAM_PASS_ERR_RECOVER; + if (sp->size != 0) { + ccb_flags |= (sp->flags & SCG_RECV_DATA) ? CAM_DIR_IN : CAM_DIR_OUT; + } + cam_fill_csio(&ccb->csio, + /* retries */ 1, + /* cbfncp */ NULL, + /* flags */ ccb_flags, + /* tag_action */ MSG_SIMPLE_Q_TAG, + /* data_ptr */ (u_int8_t *)sp->addr, + /* dxfer_len */ sp->size, + /* sense_len */ SSD_FULL_SIZE, + /* cdb_len */ sp->cdb_len, + /* timeout */ sp->timeout * 1000); + + /* Run the command */ + errno = 0; + if ((rv = cam_send_ccb(dev, ccb)) != 0) { + errmsg("CAM INTERFACE ERROR"); + result = SCG_FATAL; + sp->ux_errno = errno; + } else { + /* + * Check for command status; failure to complete a command is fatal, + * but anything else will be handled at a higher level. + */ + if ((ccb->ccb_h.status & CAM_STATUS_MASK) != CAM_REQ_CMP) { + scsi_sense_print(dev, &ccb->csio, stderr); + result = SCG_FATAL; + } else { + result = SCG_NO_ERROR; + } + } + + /* Pass the result back up */ + bzero(&sp->scb, sizeof(sp->scb)); + bzero(&sp->u_sense.cmd_sense, sizeof(sp->u_sense.cmd_sense)); + sp->resid = ccb->csio.resid; + sp->sense_count = SSD_FULL_SIZE - ccb->csio.sense_resid; + if (sp->sense_count > SCG_MAX_SENSE) + sp->sense_count = SCG_MAX_SENSE; + sp->u_scb.cmd_scb[0] = ccb->csio.scsi_status; + + cam_freeccb(ccb); + return(result); +} + +#undef scsi_sense +#undef scsi_inquiry +#define sense u_sense.Sense + +#endif /* BSD_CAM */ diff -ru cdrecord-1.6.orig/lib/libschily.mk cdrecord-1.6/lib/libschily.mk --- cdrecord-1.6.orig/lib/libschily.mk Sun Nov 9 09:58:01 1997 +++ cdrecord-1.6/lib/libschily.mk Thu Apr 16 10:37:23 1998 @@ -63,8 +63,8 @@ ########################################################################### $(ARCHDIRX)align_test$(DEP_SUFFIX): $(ARCHDIR) -include $(ARCHDIRX)avoffset$(DEP_SUFFIX) -include $(ARCHDIRX)align_test$(DEP_SUFFIX) +#include $(ARCHDIRX)avoffset$(DEP_SUFFIX) +#include $(ARCHDIRX)align_test$(DEP_SUFFIX) CLEAN_FILEX= $(ARCHDIR)/align_test.o $(ARCHDIR)/align_test CLEAN_FILEX += $(ARCHDIR)/avoffset.o $(ARCHDIR)/avoffset --==_Exmh_5545622880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com --==_Exmh_5545622880-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 20:13:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27703 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27677; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:13:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA27102; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: ben@rosengart.com To: John Birrell cc: ben@rosengart.com, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, rcarter@pinyon.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world dies in libskey In-Reply-To: <199807022147.HAA04164@cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, John Birrell wrote: > Looks like you've got CFLAGS set in /etc/make.conf. Without -O, you > get unused inline static function warnings that -Werror barfs at. You're right about CFLAGS; with so much breakage happening, I turned off -O2 so as to get to the breakage faster each time. I'm rebuilding the world now with -O. Thanks. Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 20:14:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28126 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles183.castles.com [208.214.165.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28109 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03494; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807030315.UAA03494@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "c5666305" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: winfast 3D L2300 support by XFree86 3.3.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Jul 1998 09:01:05 +0800." <199807030101.JAA14702@cssolar85.COMP.HKP.HK> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:15:16 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello, > > I had checked the XFree86 to see if it supports the winfast L2300 which > use 3D Labs Permedia 2 chipset with no particular answer. I would like > to know if anyone using it (PCI version) under SMP. If so, please let > me know how to do it. Thanks. I don't believe it's supported under XFree86 (I could be wrong). However, Xi Graphic's Accelerated X supports it. I've used it on an SMP system, although that has almost nothing to do with anything. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 21:16:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07810 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thing.dyn.ml.org (root@dyn-max8-146.chicago.il.ameritech.net [206.141.211.146] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07781 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:15:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcdougall@ameritech.net) Received: from ameritech.net (bsdx [192.168.1.2]) by thing.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA18102; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:16:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcdougall@ameritech.net) Message-ID: <359C5AC2.C4953737@ameritech.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 00:14:58 -0400 From: Adam McDougall Reply-To: mcdougall@ameritech.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: c5666305 , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: winfast 3D L2300 support by XFree86 3.3.2 References: <199807030315.UAA03494@antipodes.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I had checked the XFree86 to see if it supports the winfast L2300 which > > use 3D Labs Permedia 2 chipset with no particular answer. I would like > > to know if anyone using it (PCI version) under SMP. If so, please let > > me know how to do it. Thanks. > > I don't believe it's supported under XFree86 (I could be wrong). > However, Xi Graphic's Accelerated X supports it. I've used it on an > SMP system, although that has almost nothing to do with anything. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html " What are XSuSE-Servers? In cooperation with The XFree86 Project, Inc., S.u.S.E. GmbH is proud to present a small series of its own X servers. These servers are based on source code from XFree86-servers, but enhance and extend these. ... XSuSE_Elsa_GLoria This X-Server supports the following cards: .... PERMEDIA-2 ELSA GLoria Synergy ELSA WINNER 2000/Office DIAMOND Fire GL 1000 Pro CREATIVE Blaster Exxtreme LEADTEK WinFast 2300 ACCELSTAR Permedia II AGP Basically, most cards with Permedia II chipset (including AGP versions) should work. ATTENTION: Cards based on the new Permedia IIv Chip are not supported! Moreover, some problems do exist with certain Permedia II AGP cards. These are currently being investigated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 21:50:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11202 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:50:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11079 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA16219; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:45:56 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199807030445.WAA16219@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: SCSI problems on aic7880 In-Reply-To: <199807030309.UAA03446@antipodes.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jul 2, 98 08:09:55 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:45:56 -0600 (MDT) Cc: brian@worldcontrol.com, iang@iafrica.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote... > > On %M 0, Ian Freislich wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > After a while (3 mins from boot to a day or so) I start getting > > > the following messages on my console: > > > (this sequence repeats infinitely so I'm not sure if the SCSI > > > problem causes the pager problem or the other way around) > > > > I have repeatable problems with the aic7880. The same problems do > > not appear on the aic7870. I suggest you find a aic7870 based board. > > > > CAM may solve the problem, however, I am unable to use it due to a > > lack of CD burning facility. > > Please find attached patches for cdrecord 1.6a12. These have already > been submitted to the CAM people and Joerg Schilling, but it sounds > like the urgency level is rising. You need to set the following > environment variables before building: > > COPTX= -DBSD_CAM > LDOPTX= -lcam > > > (Note that the patch was cleaned slightly by hand, as I just realised > it was full of junk. It should still work though.) It might be better to grab the port from my ftp site. I've changed a few things, fixed a few bugs. Among other things, it can tell the difference between CAM and non-CAM systems, and configures itself accordingly. ftp://ftp.kdm.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/cdrecord-1.6-cam.980630.tar.gz [ Mike, I'll explain a little more shortly...] Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 23:23:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA22496 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA22480 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA29430 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:23:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199807030623.BAA29430@home.dragondata.com> Subject: panic: rslock To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:23:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Am I the only one seeing these every week or so? panic: rslock: cpu: 0, addr: 0xf02131c0, lock: 0x00000001 mp_lock = 00000001; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 trace shows: bsl1 _vm_object_allocate _vm_object_shadow _vm_map_lookup _vm_fault _trap_pfault _trap calltrap() Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 2 23:42:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA24984 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from myrddin.demon.co.uk (exim@myrddin.demon.co.uk [158.152.54.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24969 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dom@myrddin.demon.co.uk) Received: from dom by myrddin.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0yroYK-0000FF-00; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:57:52 +0100 To: alk@pobox.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cron cannot fork References: <13723.42917.826169.239164@compound.east> From: Dom Mitchell In-Reply-To: Tony Kimball's message of "Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:32:06 -0500 (CDT)" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 19:57:52 +0100 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tony Kimball writes: > For as long as I can remember, cron has been failing to fork > if I'm running any sort of make. I have copious swap. Can > anyone explain this? Look at login.conf settings? -- "A day without a core file is a day without sunshine." -- JB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 00:13:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29495 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA29480 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:13:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.0/1998052000) with ESMTP id JAA22637 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (vodix.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.247.43]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.0/1998060300) with ESMTP id JAA26431 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <359C84A2.E3F9642E@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 09:13:38 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger Organization: Uni-SB, Lehrstuhl für Rechnerarchitektur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel panic, solved! + question References: <98062619072801.00275@Old-Man.Home> <35989FE7.48162DAB@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > this happens between > > IP Filter: ... Logging = enabled > > and > > Changing root device to sd0s2a > > > > the only changes I´ve made: > > - CVSup from ~Jun 4 to Jun 26 I've solved my problem, I had config kernel swap on generic in my kernel, after changing it to config kernel root on sd0s2 the new kernel bootet without a panic. Q: Why did my old kernel boot, and the new one didn't? Bye, Alexander. -- 2^{F_{h+1}-1} z^{F_{h+2}-1} + 2^{F_{h+1}-2} L_{h-1} z^{F_{h+2}} + complicated terms + 2^{h-1} z^{2^h - 2} + z^{2^h - 1} Donald E. Knuth, "The Art of Computer Programming" http://fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de/~netchild mailto:netchild@studcs.uni-sb.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 01:15:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09451 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09438 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29340; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 10:18:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 10:18:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Alexander Leidinger cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel panic, solved! (not really) In-Reply-To: <359C84A2.E3F9642E@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > > this happens between > > > IP Filter: ... Logging = enabled > > > and > > > Changing root device to sd0s2a > > > > > > the only changes I´ve made: > > > - CVSup from ~Jun 4 to Jun 26 > > I've solved my problem, I had > config kernel swap on generic > in my kernel, after changing it to > config kernel root on sd0s2 > the new kernel bootet without a panic. Hmmm... This seems to point to some bug in /sys/i386/i386/swapgeneric.c, so I'd classify it as a workaround. Andrzej Bialecki --------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@nask.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. --------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 01:59:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15468 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com (84LdwZcyojsb7JZ4eZg/Go1FEezM/xe5@brane.digs.iafrica.com [196.7.162.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15463 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iang@digs.iafrica.com) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com ([196.7.162.25] ident=[l25CjfyY/ubUGRu0iUFlfpMSLfy+eX/q]) by brane.digs.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0ys1gR-00019F-00; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 10:59:07 +0200 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI problems on aic7880 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:47:54 CST." <199807021647.KAA05263@narnia.plutotech.com> X-Attribution: BOFH Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 10:59:06 +0200 From: Ian Freislich Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Justin T. Gibbs" wrote: > > After a while (3 mins from boot to a day or so) I start getting > > the following messages on my console: > > (this sequence repeats infinitely so I'm not sure if the SCSI > > problem causes the pager problem or the other way around) > > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README I'll checkout the source tree for that day and give it a try. FWIW, I removed the SCB paging and TAG_ENABLE stuff and things seem a lot more stable. -- Ian Freislich Senior System Administrator UUNET Internet Africa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 02:30:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21120 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:30:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21100 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20491; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:29:58 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id LAA24984; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:29:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980703112957.49905@follo.net> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:29:57 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Terry Lambert Cc: toasty@home.dragondata.com, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current wishlist References: <19980702213011.35162@follo.net> <199807030216.TAA18411@usr04.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199807030216.TAA18411@usr04.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 02:16:23AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 02:16:23AM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > They're part of a large fix-set I've got; unfortunately, the > > (commercial) tools I use to find problems require a lot of 'pointless' > > changes, including error control comments. This means that extracting > > individual fixes such as the below can be quite a bit of work, and > > committing the 'pointless' changes has been deemed deterimental to > > everybody that don't have the tools... > > What tools are you using? Something from McCabe systems, perhaps, > which costs ~$55,000 a seat? If so: I really, really like them... For this particular case, I ran flexelint from Gimpel software (http://www.gimpel.com/). It cost $3000,- for a 5 concurrent users server license, $1995,- for a single server user, and somewhat less for a workstation ($995,- ?) A usual: I'm not associated with them in any way beyond being a happy customer. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 05:09:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18314 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 05:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18265; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 05:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5688) with SMTP id OAA00078; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 14:09:16 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 14:02:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PKGINFO statistics Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In short, it would be appreciated if you could execute the command below on your FreeBSD box. It is harmless. /usr/sbin/pkg_info -aI | \ /usr/bin/mail -s "PKGINFO `hostname`" \ nick.hibma@jrc.it (this command should be all on one line, like: /usr/bin/pkg_info -aI | mail -s "PKGINFO `hostname`" nick.hibma@jrc.it The `hostname` in the subject is there to be able to filter out duplicates but is not required at all, in case you want to send it anonymously. It sends me a list of all the packages you have installed on the machine you execute the command on. Reason to do this: In a discussion the idea came up to see if profiles for the usage of packages could be found. If a large number of these pkg_info lists are retrieved we can try to find relations between each two installed packages. This could be used to offer predefined profiles to the user when installing packages. This avoids the user to having to wade through the entire list of packages when deciding what to install. The directory structure present in the /usr/ports directory already provides a means to do this but this could be improved upon. See for a more elaborate discussion the message below. Thanks for your help and my apologies for the cross posting. Please note that I am not subscribed to any of the mailing lists (except hackers) and any flames should be sent to my personal address only. I will collect all the flames and post a digest. :-) Nick Hibma ======== >From nick.hibma@jrc.it Fri Jul 3 13:34:37 1998 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 19:01:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: FreeBSD hackers mailing list Subject: Re: 2.2.6 CD-ROM : Package dependencies up the creek ? > > That is true, but the idea of profiles and a more copious choice of > > what you might want to install is not a bad idea either I think. > > I think it is a "slippery slope", as each of us has a different > collection of packages which we feel are important for machines > once we have them setup as a production service. If we start down > this path, we will probably end up just reorganizing the ports list, > whereas what I'm hoping for is a very short list of packages which > are displayed during the initial install time. Let's separate between two different issues. One, the more important and urgent one: your point of creating a list of packages which should be optional but most probably necessary on a newly installed system. You mention bash as an example, perl5 is another one. Add a tick box in one of the installation menus and add the packages to the CD and you are done. The more room on the CD the more packages you can add to that list if you like. The idea of profiles is the other one and as you say, it is a slippery slope. Most people install the operating system for the first time to try and if they have the feeling that they are being coached through the process and been given choices that they can easily understand, they'll probably have a better feeling about what is happening to them. Profiles you can see as different views on the database of packages available. You can already see this if you look at the way the packages are structured now. The point is that you can select a number of profiles that suite you. They might overlap, for example web, mail and software development, but you have a preselection of packages which should fullfill most your intended uses. Enhancing the profiles with relations makes it even more sexy. For example, installing MSQL on a development system that also has perl installed could trigger the adding perl5-msql. Having selected X and ghostscript makes it invitable to install ghostview as well. An idea is to collect a lot of pkg_info -aI lists and see if you can use statistics to guess what someone might want to install as well. Taking into account the available disk space and using the statistical analysis to rank the automatically added packages would keep the thing from installing too many things. REQUEST: I hereby post a request for pkg_info -aI listings of FBSD machines. Please add in the subject PKGINFO. That makes the message more of an object that _just_knows_ which mail folder to go to. The following should do: pkg_info -aI | mail -s "PKGINFO `hostname`" nick.hibma@jrc.it should do the trick. And, someone has said this (I cannot remember his name), there should be a step in between the installation of the base system (O sys and basic functionality /usr/bin and packages) and the installation of the packages through selection/profiles/whatever. In contrast to MicroDollar there is a difference between the operating system and the user interface. A remark about the fact that the operating system and base functionality (including the item above, the packages on CD 1) has been completely installed and that he now can continue with the installation of added functionality if he wishes to do so, should be added. To avoid the problem Garance had when installing FreeBSD (supposedly nuking his fresh installation during the installation of XFree) maybe some consolidation stage should be added (reboot) after dumping a README on what to do next to the screen/to more. Shouldn't we force a reboot to make sure we run off a decent medium (common guys, one reboot is not the end of the world! :-) Is it at all possible to install XFree at that stage, because of the lack of swap and RO /usr partition? > I would expect most shells will be on this "short list". As part of the > install process the user going to be asked to create some personal ID's, Account creation is a good one as well for the initial setup phase. At least you can log in as user root with a password or as someone else. It makes it feel more like home instead of a black hole. > shell I "need". Obviously I can get by using other shells, but it > only takes about five minutes before I start missing shell features > which I'm pretty used to. The cursor jumping all over the place when pressing tab, very annoying, yes. :-) Someone who has the CD1 handy should tell us how much space is left there before we embark on listing all our favourite toys. Nick Hibma To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 06:27:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27890 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oldnews.quick.net (donegan@oldnews.quick.net [207.212.170.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27881 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 06:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from donegan@oldnews.quick.net) Received: (from donegan@localhost) by oldnews.quick.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id GAA13060; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 06:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 06:27:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven P. Donegan" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make depend fails on today's cvsup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I completed a cvsup retrieval a few minutes ago and tried a config/make depend on a kernel (SMP enabled). I received the following error message from make depend: cc: vnode_if.c: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 08:49:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14425 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:49:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14420 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:49:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by dns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA11391 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 10:49:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <359CFDEA.DB7F5AD@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 10:51:06 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Make World Succeeded Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG for the first time in three or four days. Thanks, I needed that:-) ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 09:42:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20052 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:42:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20040 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roddie@krweb.net) Received: from localhost (roddie@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id MAA23709 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:42:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Roddie Hasan X-Sender: roddie@hub.org To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm getting the following while compiling my kernel with the latest sources - The kernel has compiled fine in the past, but I used a new GENERIC and customized it again to be sure. <>> Roddie Hasan - roddie@krweb.net - http://www.krweb.net/roddie <>> "Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear." -- ... cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../s csi/cd.c In file included from ../../scsi/cd.c:47: ioconf.h:11: conflicting types for `fdintr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:154: previous declaration of `fdintr' ioconf.h:11: warning: redundant redeclaration of `fdintr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:154: warning: previous declaration of `fdintr' ioconf.h:12: conflicting types for `wdintr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:185: previous declaration of `wdintr' ioconf.h:12: warning: redundant redeclaration of `wdintr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:185: warning: previous declaration of `wdintr' ioconf.h:13: conflicting types for `scintr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:175: previous declaration of `scintr' ioconf.h:13: warning: redundant redeclaration of `scintr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:175: warning: previous declaration of `scintr' ioconf.h:14: conflicting types for `npxintr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:167: previous declaration of `npxintr' ioconf.h:14: warning: redundant redeclaration of `npxintr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:167: warning: previous declaration of `npxintr' ioconf.h:15: conflicting types for `siointr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:177: previous declaration of `siointr' ioconf.h:15: warning: redundant redeclaration of `siointr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:177: warning: previous declaration of `siointr' ioconf.h:16: conflicting types for `lptintr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:162: previous declaration of `lptintr' ioconf.h:16: warning: redundant redeclaration of `lptintr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:162: warning: previous declaration of `lptintr' ioconf.h:17: conflicting types for `psmintr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:172: previous declaration of `psmintr' ioconf.h:17: warning: redundant redeclaration of `psmintr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:172: warning: previous declaration of `psmintr' ioconf.h:18: conflicting types for `edintr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:149: previous declaration of `edintr' ioconf.h:18: warning: redundant redeclaration of `edintr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:149: warning: previous declaration of `edintr' ioconf.h:19: conflicting types for `pcmintr' ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:169: previous declaration of `pcmintr' ioconf.h:19: warning: redundant redeclaration of `pcmintr' in same scope ../../i386/isa/isa_device.h:169: warning: previous declaration of `pcmintr' *** Error code 1 Stop. I don't know if this is a clue, but this is what I get during config: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf% config NAFFY WARNING: version of config(8) does not match kernel! config version = 300003, version required = 300004 Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' Kernel build directory is ../../compile/NAFFY Any ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 10:54:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28507 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 10:54:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28502 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 10:54:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id NAA08729; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 13:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 13:53:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: Roddie Hasan cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Roddie Hasan wrote: > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf% config NAFFY > WARNING: version of config(8) does not match kernel! > config version = 300003, version required = 300004 > Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' > Kernel build directory is ../../compile/NAFFY rebuild config and try again. Thank you for playing! Chris -- "Linux... The choice of a GNUtered generation." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. 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I have a Compex FreedomLine 100TX/PCI (DEC21143-based) card. And i'm having big problems under current to get it into 10BaseT mode... ;( == ifconfig -a === ... de0: flags=8c02 mtu 1500 ether 00:80:48:e7:12:cf media: autoselect supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX ... === == ifconfig de0 media 10BaseT/UTP === ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA: Device not configured === This card works fine under Win98 on the same machine in 10BaseT/UTP or in autosense mode. The same card works fine on 2.2.5/2.2.6 of my friend. What can be the problem here? Adios, /KONG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 15:42:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26507 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 15:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from top.worldcontrol.com (surf33.cruzers.com [205.215.232.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26501 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 15:42:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@worldcontrol.com) From: brian@worldcontrol.com Received: (qmail 5966 invoked by uid 100); 3 Jul 1998 22:43:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19980703154316.A5943@top.worldcontrol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 15:43:16 -0700 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CAM cdrecord: Invalid argument. CAM INTERFACE ERROR Mail-Followup-To: "Kenneth D. Merry" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <199807030309.UAA03446@antipodes.cdrom.com> <199807030445.WAA16219@panzer.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <199807030445.WAA16219@panzer.plutotech.com>; from Kenneth D. Merry on Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 10:45:56PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On %M 0, "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > It might be better to grab the port from my ftp site. I've changed > a few things, fixed a few bugs. Among other things, it can tell the > difference between CAM and non-CAM systems, and configures itself > accordingly. > > ftp://ftp.kdm.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/cdrecord-1.6-cam.980630.tar.gz Thanks for the info. I installed this on my CAM system. I ran # cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=2 -v -dummy ~brian/cdimage.raw The only scary looking part is: Waiting for reader process to fill input-buffer ... input-buffer ready. cdrecord: Invalid argument. CAM INTERFACE ERROR <********************** Starting new track at sector: 0 However, it has gone ahead and is doing the dummy burn. -- Brian Litzinger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 15:46:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26907 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 15:46:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (ken@panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26892 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 15:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA20609; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:46:28 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199807032246.QAA20609@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: CAM cdrecord: Invalid argument. CAM INTERFACE ERROR In-Reply-To: <19980703154316.A5943@top.worldcontrol.com> from "brian@worldcontrol.com" at "Jul 3, 98 03:43:16 pm" To: brian@worldcontrol.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:46:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: ken@plutotech.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG brian@worldcontrol.com wrote... > On %M 0, "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > > It might be better to grab the port from my ftp site. I've changed > > a few things, fixed a few bugs. Among other things, it can tell the > > difference between CAM and non-CAM systems, and configures itself > > accordingly. > > > > ftp://ftp.kdm.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/cdrecord-1.6-cam.980630.tar.gz > > Thanks for the info. > > I installed this on my CAM system. I ran > > # cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=2 -v -dummy ~brian/cdimage.raw > > The only scary looking part is: > > Waiting for reader process to fill input-buffer ... input-buffer ready. > cdrecord: Invalid argument. CAM INTERFACE ERROR <********************** > Starting new track at sector: 0 > > However, it has gone ahead and is doing the dummy burn. I wouldn't worry too much about that. It spews a few errors for me as well, generally with non-critical commands. (like it tries to send a start unit and the drive doesn't like that for some reason) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 16:00:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28776 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa5-03.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28753 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00509; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807032300.QAA00509@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fd Device Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am getting errors in accessing fd0. I can boot a FreeBSD floppy. DOS has no problem with the device. I never see or hear FreeBSD access the device. I am running FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Jun 19 09:15:17 PDT 1998 The only IDE storage device is the floppy. There are 3 SCSI disks and a SCSI CD. The SCSI controller is a NCR PCI device. >From dmesg: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in With a floppy disk I can mount on another system, I get: # mount /dev/fd0a /mnt /dev/fd0 on /mnt: Input/output error and, dmesg has: fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 16 of 16-31 (No status) The LED on the drive does not light, and, drive is not accessed, the heads are not heard to move. With NO floppy in the drive, # mount /dev/fd0a /mnt /dev/fd0a on /mnt: Input/output error and, dmesg has: fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 16 of 16-31 (No status) The LED on the drive does not light, and, drive is not accessed, the heads are not heard to move. Is there a problem with the fd driver? Is there an updated driver? I have: sys/i386/conf/ controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 sys/i386/isa/fd.c * from: @(#)fd.c 7.4 (Berkeley) 5/25/91 * $Id: fd.c,v 1.114 1998/06/07 19:40:39 dfr Exp $ sys/i386/isa/fdc.h * $Id: fdc.h,v 1.9 1997/09/17 20:16:16 tegge Exp $ sys/i386/isa/fdreg.h * $Id: fdreg.h,v 1.10 1997/02/22 09:36:11 peter Exp $ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 3 22:52:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14670 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 22:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-48.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14662 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 22:52:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA25164 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 02:52:46 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 02:52:46 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: X no longer works... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Morning... I recently did an upgrade of my machine, running FreeBSD-CURRENT, and now can't seem to run X anymore, with an error of: Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: KDENABIO failed (Operation not permitted) My first thought was that it was KDE related, by the KEDNABIO message, but disabling KDE and using some other window manager brings up the same error message :( I've tried rebuilding XFree86 and KDE, but that hasn't appeared to help any... Am going to upgrade my source tree and kernel today, but has anyone else seen this? Did I just get a source snapshot between good ones? Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 4 02:37:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07414 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 02:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07227 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 02:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelh@cet.co.jp) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.8/CET-v2.2) with SMTP id JAA11159 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 09:34:57 GMT Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 18:34:57 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: JunOS Whitepaper Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Juniper Networks has a cool whitepaper on their FreeBSD derived technology. http://www.juniper.net/leadingedge/whitepapers/optimizing-routing-sw.fm.html Regards, Mike Hancock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 4 07:12:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04662 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 07:12:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04657 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 07:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22805; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199807041412.KAA22805@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Michael Hancock cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: JunOS Whitepaper References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jul 1998 18:34:57 +0900." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 10:12:34 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, it's pretty cool stuff. We've been testing it since late last year, and it works pretty good. > Juniper Networks has a cool whitepaper on their FreeBSD derived > technology. > > http://www.juniper.net/leadingedge/whitepapers/optimizing-routing-sw.fm.html Of course the cool stuff is the quality of the routing protocol implementation they have. Nothing else like it on the planet. Not just warmed-over gated. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 4 15:08:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20941 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20931 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 15:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29886 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 14:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd029875; Sat Jul 4 21:58:17 1998 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 14:58:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: small locking patch for discussion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1966150496-899589491=:10069" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. 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Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Im gonna get fried for this but some of the ports for me are breaking like xpilot with: socklib.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_addr' referenced from text segment socklib.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_ntoa' referenced from text segment socklib.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_addr' referenced from text segment query.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_ntoa' referenced from text segment query.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_ntoa' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Tank bombs out with: gcc -Wall -o tank tank.o operations.o collisions.o lists.o readtga.o daemon.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib \ -lMesaaux -lMesatk -lMesaGLU -lMesaGL \ -lXext -lX11 -lm daemon.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_addr' referenced from text segment gmake[1]: *** [linux-elf] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/games/tank/work/tank-0.4a' gmake: *** [linux-mesa-elf] Error 2 *** Error code 2 *I* dont recall seeing any mention of this happening or going to happen from any commits. Did I miss a post to current about possible breakage? Chris (Wearing Flame Suit) -- "Linux... The choice of a GNUtered generation." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 4 15:44:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24614 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24514 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 15:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA14420; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 08:56:09 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199807042256.IAA14420@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Ports breakage. In-Reply-To: from Open Systems Networking at "Jul 4, 98 06:18:49 pm" To: opsys@mail.webspan.net (Open Systems Networking) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 08:56:09 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Open Systems Networking wrote: > > Im gonna get fried for this but some of the ports for me are breaking like > xpilot with: > > socklib.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_addr' referenced from text segment > socklib.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_ntoa' referenced from text segment > socklib.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_addr' referenced from text segment > query.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_ntoa' referenced from text segment > query.o: Undefined symbol `___inet_ntoa' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 Check if you've got an old libc in /usr/lib and the new one in /usr/lib/aout. I've seen this sort of thing when a port compiles against the new headers, but links against the old libc due to the configure script "searching" /usr/lib. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 4 18:41:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06059 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 18:41:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles321.castles.com [208.214.167.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06044 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 18:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00757; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 12:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807041940.MAA00757@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Alexander Leidinger cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel panic, solved! + question In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Jul 1998 09:13:38 +0200." <359C84A2.E3F9642E@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 12:40:50 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id SAA06048 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > > this happens between > > > IP Filter: ... Logging = enabled > > > and > > > Changing root device to sd0s2a > > > > > > the only changes I´ve made: > > > - CVSup from ~Jun 4 to Jun 26 > > I've solved my problem, I had > config kernel swap on generic > in my kernel, after changing it to > config kernel root on sd0s2 > the new kernel bootet without a panic. > > Q: Why did my old kernel boot, and the new one didn't? 'on generic' is Evil. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message