From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Dec 15 09:58:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27951 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:58:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.tar.com (ns.tar.com [204.95.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27942 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:58:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@tar.com) Received: from ppro.tar.com (ppro.tar.com [204.95.187.9]) by ns.tar.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04410; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:53:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lists@tar.com) Message-Id: <199812151753.LAA04410@ns.tar.com> From: "Richard Seaman, Jr." To: "Vladimir N.Silyaev" , "Johan Larsson" , "pam@NetSurfer.lp.lviv.ua" , "=?iso-8859-0?q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?=" , "Tim Tretyak" , "Wolfram Rautenberg" Cc: "emulation@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 98 11:53:43 -0600 Reply-To: "Richard Seaman, Jr." X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Linux Threads patches Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've posted the "linux threads" patches at http://lt.tar.com/ I've been able to run StarOffice 5.0 with these patches, though there are still a few problems. Also, I've been able to run the example programs that come with the linux threads source distribution, both in linux emulation mode and in FreeBSD native, when compiled against the native "port" of linux threads. I'd appreciate feedback if you try them. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Dec 15 13:35:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29079 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:35:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.tar.com (ns.tar.com [204.95.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29072 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:35:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@tar.com) Received: from ppro.tar.com (ppro.tar.com [204.95.187.9]) by ns.tar.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA06133 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:35:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lists@tar.com) Message-Id: <199812152135.PAA06133@ns.tar.com> From: "Richard Seaman, Jr." To: "emulation@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 98 15:35:25 -0600 Reply-To: "Richard Seaman, Jr." X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linux Threads patches (StarOffice 5.0) Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 15 Dec 98 11:53:43 -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: >I've been able to run StarOffice 5.0 with these patches, though >there are still a few problems. The problems seem to have gone away when I reinstalled it and added the Office/bin directory to my default path. I've successfully registered StarOffice 5.0, and so far no problems with very limited testing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Dec 17 22:10:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23674 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:10:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23641; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA13609; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:39:49 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA16491; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:39:44 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981218163944.V486@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:39:44 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jason C. Wells" , "Paul T. Root" Cc: FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD References: <199812171957.NAA07576@horton.iaces.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason C. Wells on Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 08:01:51PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 17 December 1998 at 20:01:51 -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: > On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Paul T. Root wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I downloaded the free WordPerfect for Linux today from download.com and >> installed it on my 2.2.8-Stable (a week or so ago) machine. It came right up >> without any problem. The install was flawless. > > I must report very good success with Word Perfect as well. I am so pleased > with WordPerfect that I must now say goodbye to StarOffice, and (TA DA) > WORD. Ding dong the witch is dead. The wicked witch... Hmm. I've just installed it, which worked fine, and looked quite professional, but it SIGSEGVs when I try to run it. I'll look at it when I have time, but if anybody else sees something like this and has a solution, I'd be interested in hearing it. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 00:14:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06138 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06133 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:14:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02303; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:11:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812180811.AAA02303@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Greg Lehey cc: "Jason C. Wells" , "Paul T. Root" , FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:39:44 +1030." <19981218163944.V486@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:11:24 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Thursday, 17 December 1998 at 20:01:51 -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Paul T. Root wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> I downloaded the free WordPerfect for Linux today from download.com and > >> installed it on my 2.2.8-Stable (a week or so ago) machine. It came right up > >> without any problem. The install was flawless. > > > > I must report very good success with Word Perfect as well. I am so pleased > > with WordPerfect that I must now say goodbye to StarOffice, and (TA DA) > > WORD. Ding dong the witch is dead. The wicked witch... > > Hmm. I've just installed it, which worked fine, and looked quite > professional, but it SIGSEGVs when I try to run it. I'll look at it > when I have time, but if anybody else sees something like this and has > a solution, I'd be interested in hearing it. It's running fine here; should be OK on 2.2.5 and later (perhaps even 2.2.2) - I'm using it now to write some HTML describing in painful detail everything that's involved in making it work. All the usual crap - make sure your LKM's in sync, check you have linux_lib 2.4 or later installed, etc. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 00:26:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07297 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:26:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07286 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:26:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA13967; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:55:31 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA18552; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:55:25 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981218185524.Y486@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:55:24 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , "Paul T. Root" , FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD References: <19981218163944.V486@freebie.lemis.com> <199812180811.AAA02303@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812180811.AAA02303@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 12:11:24AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 18 December 1998 at 0:11:24 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >> On Thursday, 17 December 1998 at 20:01:51 -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: >>> On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Paul T. Root wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I downloaded the free WordPerfect for Linux today from download.com and >>>> installed it on my 2.2.8-Stable (a week or so ago) machine. It came right up >>>> without any problem. The install was flawless. >>> >>> I must report very good success with Word Perfect as well. I am so pleased >>> with WordPerfect that I must now say goodbye to StarOffice, and (TA DA) >>> WORD. Ding dong the witch is dead. The wicked witch... >> >> Hmm. I've just installed it, which worked fine, and looked quite >> professional, but it SIGSEGVs when I try to run it. I'll look at it >> when I have time, but if anybody else sees something like this and has >> a solution, I'd be interested in hearing it. > > It's running fine here; should be OK on 2.2.5 and later (perhaps even > 2.2.2) - I'm using it now to write some HTML describing in painful > detail everything that's involved in making it work. > > All the usual crap - make sure your LKM's in sync, check you have > linux_lib 2.4 or later installed, etc. I didn't check the version of linux_lib, but it was ancient. I installed the new version, and at least now it produces a display and seems to be working. Of course, it's full of these silly icons which don't mean anything to me, so I suppose I'll have to get Yvonne to decipher it for me. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 00:33:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08338 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:33:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08331 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:33:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02405; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:29:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812180829.AAA02405@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Greg Lehey cc: Mike Smith , "Jason C. Wells" , "Paul T. Root" , FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:55:24 +1030." <19981218185524.Y486@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:29:28 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > It's running fine here; should be OK on 2.2.5 and later (perhaps even > > 2.2.2) - I'm using it now to write some HTML describing in painful > > detail everything that's involved in making it work. > > > > All the usual crap - make sure your LKM's in sync, check you have > > linux_lib 2.4 or later installed, etc. > > I didn't check the version of linux_lib, but it was ancient. I > installed the new version, and at least now it produces a display and > seems to be working. Of course, it's full of these silly icons which > don't mean anything to me, so I suppose I'll have to get Yvonne to > decipher it for me. Do you remember which version you had installed? If you don't know what the icons do, point at one for a couple of seconds and it will tell you. I'm unhappy at the paucity of keyboard shortcuts for things, but I understand you can roll these to suit, and it's certainly a pretty tolerable WYSIWYG HTML editor. I'll put up the results of the evening's work shortly and you can pick its code apart. The one thing irritating me so far is that I can't work out how to turn off the bloody grammar checker. I expect that its default American dictionary will piss me off too. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 01:28:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15829 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:28:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15824 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:28:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02689; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:24:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812180924.BAA02689@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: Greg Lehey , "Jason C. Wells" , "Paul T. Root" , FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:29:28 PST." <199812180829.AAA02405@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:24:21 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'm unhappy at the paucity of keyboard > shortcuts for things, but I understand you can roll these to suit, and > it's certainly a pretty tolerable WYSIWYG HTML editor. I take that back; it's a *^&%*&^ awful HTML editor. It has the habit of munching things like a trailing in a set of quoted blocks, and other stupid things that make it look good (and easy) to work with onscreen, but useless. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 02:12:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19564 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:12:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19559 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:12:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA14255; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:41:57 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id UAA18663; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:41:54 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981218204151.B486@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:41:51 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , "Paul T. Root" , FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD References: <19981218185524.Y486@freebie.lemis.com> <199812180829.AAA02405@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812180829.AAA02405@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 12:29:28AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 18 December 1998 at 0:29:28 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >>> It's running fine here; should be OK on 2.2.5 and later (perhaps even >>> 2.2.2) - I'm using it now to write some HTML describing in painful >>> detail everything that's involved in making it work. >>> >>> All the usual crap - make sure your LKM's in sync, check you have >>> linux_lib 2.4 or later installed, etc. >> >> I didn't check the version of linux_lib, but it was ancient. I >> installed the new version, and at least now it produces a display and >> seems to be working. Of course, it's full of these silly icons which >> don't mean anything to me, so I suppose I'll have to get Yvonne to >> decipher it for me. > > Do you remember which version you had installed? No. All I have is the following: $ ls -l /compat/linux/ total 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4 Apr 11 1997 .linux_lib-version -rw-r--r-- 1 grog wheel 118 Dec 21 1997 Adreßbuch.url drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 27 1996 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 25 02:40 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 15 1997 lib drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 26 1996 sbin drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Dec 12 1996 usr drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 27 1996 var I think we can agree it was ancient enough. > If you don't know what the icons do, point at one for a couple of > seconds and it will tell you. Sure. Read http://www.daemonnews.org/199810/d-advocate.html for my take on this approach. > I'm unhappy at the paucity of keyboard shortcuts for things, but I > understand you can roll these to suit, and it's certainly a pretty > tolerable WYSIWYG HTML editor. I'll put up the results of the > evening's work shortly and you can pick its code apart. I'll be interested. So far it looks pretty professional, and before the days of Windoze (about 10 years ago) WordPerfect was my favourite word processor, so I don't want to be too prejudiced. > The one thing irritating me so far is that I can't work out how to > turn off the bloody grammar checker. I expect that its default > American dictionary will piss me off too. I'll comment if I get that far. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 02:18:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20231 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20225 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:18:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03076; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:14:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812181014.CAA03076@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Greg Lehey cc: Mike Smith , "Jason C. Wells" , "Paul T. Root" , FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:41:51 +1030." <19981218204151.B486@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:14:36 -0800 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id CAA20226 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> I didn't check the version of linux_lib, but it was ancient. I > >> installed the new version, and at least now it produces a display and > >> seems to be working. Of course, it's full of these silly icons which > >> don't mean anything to me, so I suppose I'll have to get Yvonne to > >> decipher it for me. > > > > Do you remember which version you had installed? > > No. All I have is the following: > > $ ls -l /compat/linux/ > total 1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4 Apr 11 1997 .linux_lib-version And what does this file contain? > -rw-r--r-- 1 grog wheel 118 Dec 21 1997 Adreßbuch.url > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 27 1996 bin > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 25 02:40 etc > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 15 1997 lib > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 26 1996 sbin > drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Dec 12 1996 usr > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 27 1996 var > > I think we can agree it was ancient enough. '96 is bad, yes. > > If you don't know what the icons do, point at one for a couple of > > seconds and it will tell you. > > Sure. Read http://www.daemonnews.org/199810/d-advocate.html for my > take on this approach. Read the manual then, sourpuss. > > I'm unhappy at the paucity of keyboard shortcuts for things, but I > > understand you can roll these to suit, and it's certainly a pretty > > tolerable WYSIWYG HTML editor. I'll put up the results of the > > evening's work shortly and you can pick its code apart. > > I'll be interested. So far it looks pretty professional, and before > the days of Windoze (about 10 years ago) WordPerfect was my favourite > word processor, so I don't want to be too prejudiced. I think it's a pretty good WP. I've characterised the HTML bug I'm seeing, and it looks pretty basic, which is a bad sign as far as that part of the package is concerned. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 02:24:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20940 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20935 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:24:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA14279; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:54:13 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id UAA18707; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:54:11 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981218205411.C486@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:54:11 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , "Paul T. Root" , FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD References: <19981218204151.B486@freebie.lemis.com> <199812181014.CAA03076@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812181014.CAA03076@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 02:14:36AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 18 December 1998 at 2:14:36 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >>>> I didn't check the version of linux_lib, but it was ancient. I >>>> installed the new version, and at least now it produces a display and >>>> seems to be working. Of course, it's full of these silly icons which >>>> don't mean anything to me, so I suppose I'll have to get Yvonne to >>>> decipher it for me. >>> >>> Do you remember which version you had installed? >> >> No. All I have is the following: >> >> $ ls -l /compat/linux/ >> total 1 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4 Apr 11 1997 .linux_lib-version > > And what does this file contain? "2.6 " It now also has the following info: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4 Oct 24 19:28 /compat/linux/.linux_lib-version What I sent you was before I installed the new version (it was in a window I hadn't accessed since). >> I think we can agree it was ancient enough. > > '96 is bad, yes. Agreed. >>> If you don't know what the icons do, point at one for a couple of >>> seconds and it will tell you. >> >> Sure. Read http://www.daemonnews.org/199810/d-advocate.html for my >> take on this approach. > > Read the manual then, sourpuss. Why should I? I'm quite happy with the tools I have :-() >>> I'm unhappy at the paucity of keyboard shortcuts for things, but I >>> understand you can roll these to suit, and it's certainly a pretty >>> tolerable WYSIWYG HTML editor. I'll put up the results of the >>> evening's work shortly and you can pick its code apart. >> >> I'll be interested. So far it looks pretty professional, and before >> the days of Windoze (about 10 years ago) WordPerfect was my favourite >> word processor, so I don't want to be too prejudiced. > > I think it's a pretty good WP. I've characterised the HTML bug I'm > seeing, and it looks pretty basic, which is a bad sign as far as that > part of the package is concerned. 8( I must do some thinking about what I did with word processors 10 years ago. I gave up Word Perfect 4.2 round the time I got my first laser printer, because it didn't handle proportional fonts. I briefly tried Microsoft Word, which was (even then) the biggest disaster I had ever experienced, and then went on to Borland's Sprint (used to be Mark of the Unicorn's ``Final Word''). It was so buggy that I ended up trying TeX, and the rest is history. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 18:43:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11195 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:43:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horton.iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11185 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from proot@horton.iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13167; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:42:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from proot) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199812190242.UAA13167@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <19981218205411.C486@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Dec 18, 98 08:54:11 pm" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:42:23 -0600 (CST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, jcwells@u.washington.edu, FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organization: USWEST !nterprise Networking - ACES X-Phone: (612) 664-3385 X-Fax: (612) 664-4779 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55413 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I must do some thinking about what I did with word processors 10 years > ago. I gave up Word Perfect 4.2 round the time I got my first laser > printer, because it didn't handle proportional fonts. I briefly tried > Microsoft Word, which was (even then) the biggest disaster I had ever > experienced, and then went on to Borland's Sprint (used to be Mark of > the Unicorn's ``Final Word''). It was so buggy that I ended up trying > TeX, and the rest is history. I remember hating Word 1.0 (and my opinion has never changed). WP was pretty good back then. I also had Sprint, I'd forgotten about it. It had multiple personality front ends, I choose emacs. They never developed it beyond the first release. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 18 19:03:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13303 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 19:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13291 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 19:03:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA19101; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:33:20 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA24187; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:33:19 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981219133318.B24125@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:33:18 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Paul T. Root" Cc: mike@smith.net.au, jcwells@u.washington.edu, FreeBSD-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect for Linux on FreeBSD References: <19981218205411.C486@freebie.lemis.com> <199812190242.UAA13167@horton.iaces.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812190242.UAA13167@horton.iaces.com>; from Paul T. Root on Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 08:42:23PM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 18 December 1998 at 20:42:23 -0600, Paul T. Root wrote: >> >> I must do some thinking about what I did with word processors 10 years >> ago. I gave up Word Perfect 4.2 round the time I got my first laser >> printer, because it didn't handle proportional fonts. I briefly tried >> Microsoft Word, which was (even then) the biggest disaster I had ever >> experienced, and then went on to Borland's Sprint (used to be Mark of >> the Unicorn's ``Final Word''). It was so buggy that I ended up trying >> TeX, and the rest is history. > > I remember hating Word 1.0 (and my opinion has never changed). Ditto. > WP was pretty good back then. Modulo the PS problems. > I also had Sprint, I'd forgotten about it. It had multiple > personality front ends, I choose emacs. They never developed it > beyond the first release. I have 1.5. It was only sold in France, and it had a few annoying features, one of which was the incompatible customizing. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message