From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 04:13:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08297 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08183 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 04:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (beBop) id UAA07563; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:42:16 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 20:42:16 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199806281112.UAA07563@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: adrian@ubergeeks.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? In-Reply-To: <6n0hf9$a4s$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971224 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <6n0hf9$a4s$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> you wrote: > Still no go. Has anyone been using the MAX under 2.2.6 instead of > -current? I think I may just throw in a SB16 for the next few months. > The GUS support under 2.2.6 looks like it has problems. In any > case, as I read the code, the isa_dmastart message is going to happen 100% > of the time whether things are working or not. isa_dmaacquire is never > called. I've just spent the last week or so throwing my hands up at this prob.. I installed OSS for FreeBSD and the x11amp version worked great.. but these little spontaneous reboots worried me.. so i dumped that since i'm used to my system never going down unless i'm shutting it down! So i went back to the voxware stuff.. (pcm does _not_ work with non-pnp gus's btw) My GUS MAX is working under 2.2-stable (as of a few days ago) but the console fills up with isa_dmastart: channel 1 not acquired isa_dmastart: channel 1 not acquired isa_dmastart: channel 1 busy [repeated about 10000000 times...] when playing mp3 files with splay, amp, or mpg123. i have no problems with mods/s3m's with s3mod or midi's with playmidi... I've just commented out these two lines as they don't "appear" to effect anything, apart from giving syslog a headache (and xconsole). Looking at the cvs tree isa.c had some changes from 1.74.2.4->5 that was a "sound bugfix to isa.c"... I'm building a 2.2.0-RELEASE kernel now and i'll see if something along the way broke something.... Peter -- Peter Childs - finger pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au for PGP public key We are FreeBSD, resistance is related to current and voltage... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 05:13:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14565 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14549 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA01011; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:13:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980628221310.58110@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:13:10 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Peter Childs Cc: adrian@ubergeeks.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? References: <6n0hf9$a4s$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> <199806281112.UAA07563@al.imforei.apana.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199806281112.UAA07563@al.imforei.apana.org.au>; from Peter Childs on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 08:42:16PM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 08:42:16PM +0930, Peter Childs wrote: > In article <6n0hf9$a4s$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> you wrote: > > > > Still no go. Has anyone been using the MAX under 2.2.6 instead of > > -current? I think I may just throw in a SB16 for the next few months. > > > The GUS support under 2.2.6 looks like it has problems. In any > > case, as I read the code, the isa_dmastart message is going to happen 100% > > of the time whether things are working or not. isa_dmaacquire is never > > called. > > I've just spent the last week or so throwing my hands up at this prob.. > > I installed OSS for FreeBSD and the x11amp version worked great.. but > these little spontaneous reboots worried me.. so i dumped that since i'm > used to my system never going down unless i'm shutting it down! > > So i went back to the voxware stuff.. (pcm does _not_ work with non-pnp > gus's btw) > > My GUS MAX is working under 2.2-stable (as of a few days ago) but the > console fills up with > isa_dmastart: channel 1 not acquired > isa_dmastart: channel 1 not acquired > isa_dmastart: channel 1 busy > [repeated about 10000000 times...] > when playing mp3 files with splay, amp, or mpg123. i have no problems > with mods/s3m's with s3mod or midi's with playmidi... I'm running my GUS *Classic* under 2.2-stable as of late May, and playmidi wakes me each morning without problems. I simply put in the line that LINT suggested and it worked. But I have heard of someone not being able to use their old GUS with 2.2.6-release. I have been getting an excruciatingly annoying avalanche of apparently harmless error messages whenever I use the GUS, ever since 2.1.5 in 1996. During that time I have tried all manner of kernel entries for the GUS and it made no difference. There is not much sympathy for people using old hardware (I purchased it new in 1996!) so I only whinged half a dozen times :-) Apparently it is possible to change some sources to prevent these messages, but with my lack of skill and confidence I have been reluctant to do so. A couple of weeks ago I noticed that an old PR on this was still open. If it's so easy and harmless to fix I guess it would have been fixed ages ago, so this little newbie's keeping her hands off it. So far I'm just wearing the messages as usual, and avoiding using ttyv0 has become a natural habit. I usually only play midis, and the occasional .au or .mod for kicks. I don't even know what an mp3 is. > I'm building a 2.2.0-RELEASE kernel now and i'll see if something along > the way broke something.... I was running that for 12 months off and on until May this year, and doing much more with the GUS then. Again, the card worked fine with 2.2.2 but spewed out stuff like "isa_dmastart: channel 7 busy" and log entries like "last message repeated 123 times" for the duration of its use. So GUS Classic plays midis fine but complians bitterly with all of 2.1.5 2.2.2 2.2-STABLE of late May 98 -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 05:39:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16078 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16073 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA01064; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:39:22 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980628223918.33343@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:39:18 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Peter Childs Cc: adrian@ubergeeks.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? References: <6n0hf9$a4s$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> <199806281112.UAA07563@al.imforei.apana.org.au> <19980628221310.58110@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <19980628221310.58110@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 10:13:10PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 10:13:10PM +1000, Sue Blake wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 08:42:16PM +0930, Peter Childs wrote: > > > > > > I'm building a 2.2.0-RELEASE kernel now and i'll see if something along > > the way broke something.... Oops, after putting my glasses on I see that there's a 0 there. Sorry, my next statement referred only to 2.2.2-RELEASE > I was running that for 12 months off and on until May this year, and > doing much more with the GUS then. Again, the card worked fine with 2.2.2 > but spewed out stuff like "isa_dmastart: channel 7 busy" and log entries > like "last message repeated 123 times" for the duration of its use. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 05:41:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16463 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16458 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 05:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (beBop) id WAA03885; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:10:09 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980628221009.35391@imforei.apana.org.au> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:10:09 +0930 From: Peter Childs To: Sue Blake Cc: adrian@ubergeeks.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? References: <6n0hf9$a4s$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> <199806281112.UAA07563@al.imforei.apana.org.au> <19980628221310.58110@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <19980628221310.58110@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 10:13:10PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 10:13:10PM +1000, Sue Blake wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 08:42:16PM +0930, Peter Childs wrote: > > In article <6n0hf9$a4s$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> you wrote: > > I have been getting an excruciatingly annoying avalanche of apparently > harmless error messages whenever I use the GUS, ever since 2.1.5 in 1996. > During that time I have tried all manner of kernel entries for the GUS > and it made no difference. There is not much sympathy for people using > old hardware (I purchased it new in 1996!) so I only whinged half a dozen > times :-) Grin. I've put in a pr (kern/7095) so hopefully before 2.2.7-RELEASE happens someone will touch up the three lines needed... FWIW a mp3 file is a mpeg compressed(encoded) audio file.. so you can take your normal CD's and compress the tracks onto disk (about 3-5mb each) You can then get some neat apps to play them back.. x11amp/winamp are nice but x11amp only works with OSS's sound drivers, which made my machine go click-wirrrr... (hehe) I guess i'll have to stick with the old command line stuff :) Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 10:39:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16359 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16345 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:39:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (root@ppp-7.mexcom.net [206.103.65.199]) by ns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04385 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:38:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35968050.2D16C0B9@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:41:36 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Web interface for fxtv. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am very happy with fxtv on a super cheap bt489 card and a svideo camera/no tuner. I decided to use videocaptura.c as the base for a cgi to take a photo and display it on a webpage. Before I continue, does anyone know of web interface tools for the bt84[89] already done? My problem is that I can't make the card use the svideo input because the default is composite video. I tried fxtv with the fxtv -defaultInput svideo with no effect. I put defaultInput in the Fxtv app-defaults file with no effect, but changing the input form the fxtv window works perfectly. I tried a quick hack in the fxtv code and recompiled with no luck. Any suggestions will be appreciated. ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 12:19:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27995 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27989 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:19:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01757; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:18:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806281918.MAA01757@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Sue Blake cc: Peter Childs , adrian@ubergeeks.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:13:10 +1000." <19980628221310.58110@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:18:53 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just go into isa.c and comment the printf "isa_dmastart: channel 1 not acquired" Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 12:24:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28592 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:24:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28587 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01831; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806281924.MAA01831@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Edwin Culp cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:41:36 CDT." <35968050.2D16C0B9@webwizard.org.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:24:15 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For setting the input use: c = METEOR_INPUT_DEV1; if (ioctl(bt848, METEORSINPUT, &c) < 0) { printf("ioctl failed: %d\n", errno); exit(1); } Where "c", can be : #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV0 0x01000 /* camera input 0 -- default */ #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_RCA METEOR_INPUT_DEV0 #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV1 0x02000 /* camera input 1 */ #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV2 0x04000 /* camera input 2 */ #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV3 0x08000 /* camera input 3 */ #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_RGB 0x0a000 /* for rgb version of meteor */ #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_SVIDEO 0x06000 /* S-video input port */ Amancio > I am very happy with fxtv on a super cheap bt489 > card and a svideo camera/no tuner. > > I decided to use videocaptura.c as the base for > a cgi to take a photo and display it on a webpage. > > Before I continue, does anyone know of web interface > tools for the bt84[89] already done? > > My problem is that I can't make the card use the > svideo input because the default is composite video. > > I tried fxtv with the fxtv -defaultInput svideo with > no effect. I put defaultInput in the Fxtv app-defaults > file with no effect, but changing the input form the > fxtv window works perfectly. > > I tried a quick hack in the fxtv code and recompiled > with no luck. > > Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > ed > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 13:37:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06791 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06786 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02436; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806282035.NAA02436@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice 4 sp3. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:03:39 PDT." <199806281803.LAA28768@uhf.wireless.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:35:09 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Bernie, I am using Star Office 4 Service Pack 2 with no problems at all on -current. I guess the problematic version is the Service Pack 3. Has anyone in the list managed to get Star Office Service Pack 3 to work? Tnks, Amancio > Hi Amancio: > > Have you been able to get past the SIGABORT, in star office 4.0 service pack > 3? I even upgraded my libc to 5.4.44 according to what some RH Linux users > posted at stardivision's news server, but no luck... > > Ever since you suggested star office on the multimedia list I have been using it. Would be nice to upgrade from 3.1 though. > > Best Regards, > > Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 13:56:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08334 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wireless.4d.net (wireless.4d.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08325 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [207.137.157.140]) by wireless.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA22172; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA05227; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:56:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice 4 sp3. In-Reply-To: <199806282035.NAA02436@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There are new bugs reported in sp3 that weren't in sp2... Anyone know where to get sp2 from? Thanks... Bernie > I am using Star Office 4 Service Pack 2 with no problems at all on > -current. > > I guess the problematic version is the Service Pack 3. Has anyone in > the list managed to get Star Office Service Pack 3 to work? > > Tnks, > Amancio > > > > Hi Amancio: > > > > Have you been able to get past the SIGABORT, in star office 4.0 service pack > > 3? I even upgraded my libc to 5.4.44 according to what some RH Linux users > > posted at stardivision's news server, but no luck... > > > > Ever since you suggested star office on the multimedia list I have been using it. Would be nice to upgrade from 3.1 though. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Bernie > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 14:32:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11366 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11350 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (root@ppp-7.mexcom.net [206.103.65.199]) by ns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA04894; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:31:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3596B6ED.4A1FC879@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:34:37 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. References: <199806281924.MAA01831@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll give it a try. thanks ed Amancio Hasty wrote: > > For setting the input use: > c = METEOR_INPUT_DEV1; > > if (ioctl(bt848, METEORSINPUT, &c) < 0) { > printf("ioctl failed: %d\n", errno); > exit(1); > } > > Where "c", can be : > > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV0 0x01000 /* camera input 0 -- default */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_RCA METEOR_INPUT_DEV0 > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV1 0x02000 /* camera input 1 */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV2 0x04000 /* camera input 2 */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV3 0x08000 /* camera input 3 */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_RGB 0x0a000 /* for rgb version of meteor */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_SVIDEO 0x06000 /* S-video input port */ > > Amancio > > > I am very happy with fxtv on a super cheap bt489 > > card and a svideo camera/no tuner. > > > > I decided to use videocaptura.c as the base for > > a cgi to take a photo and display it on a webpage. > > > > Before I continue, does anyone know of web interface > > tools for the bt84[89] already done? > > > > My problem is that I can't make the card use the > > svideo input because the default is composite video. > > > > I tried fxtv with the fxtv -defaultInput svideo with > > no effect. I put defaultInput in the Fxtv app-defaults > > file with no effect, but changing the input form the > > fxtv window works perfectly. > > > > I tried a quick hack in the fxtv code and recompiled > > with no luck. > > > > Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > > > ed > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 14:38:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12650 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12645 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:38:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03552; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:38:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806282138.OAA03552@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Edwin Culp cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:34:37 CDT." <3596B6ED.4A1FC879@webwizard.org.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:38:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On a different , can I get a cgi thingy to capture images out of the mailing list? 8) The intent is to submit the program to the ports/www collection. Tnks! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 14:55:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14493 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [206.205.41.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14488 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01178; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:54:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:54:56 -0400 (EDT) From: ADRIAN Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: Amancio Hasty cc: Sue Blake , Peter Childs , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? In-Reply-To: <199806281918.MAA01757@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Just go into isa.c and comment the printf "isa_dmastart: channel 1 not > acquired" > > Cheers, > Amancio Well, that or move the "#endif /* DIAGNOSTICS */" down a few lines to where it ought to be. The problem is that the driver still seems to be broken. I dug around in the gnats DB for abit and there are several problem reports for the GUS boards. One said that reverting to the 2.2.5 isa.c was sufficient to correct things, but it doesn't actually appear to make a difference. The only significant changes I saw were related to introduction of the dma_audo_mode variable. When I previously said I get no audio output, I was wrong. If I crank the speakers up to maximum, I do hear a faint buz when I cat to /dev/audio. Still it isn't working properly. Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 15:03:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15397 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15386 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:03:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03699; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806282203.PAA03699@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Adrian Filipi-Martin cc: Sue Blake , Peter Childs , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:54:56 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:03:22 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, upgrade to 3.0 -current or back port the voxware driver to 2.2. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 15:52:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21340 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21329 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04820 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806282252.PAA04820@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: A Little Java, A Few Patterns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:52:22 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This is a great little book on Java . It is not about Java per se rather it shows how to manipulate classes. Why the posting to this list? I am going to try build up a multimedia programming culture and this is just a small step towards that goal. Cheers, Amancio http://mitpress.mit.edu/book-home.tcl?isbn=0262561158 A Little Java, A Few Patterns by Matthias Felleisen and Daniel P. Friedman foreword by Ralph E. Johnson and drawings by Duane Bibby "This is a book of 'why' not 'how.' If you are interested in the nature of computation and curious about the very idea behind object orientation, this book is for you. This book will engage your brain (if not your tummy). Through its sparkling interactive style, you will learn about three essential OO concepts: interfaces, visitors, and factories. A refreshing change from the 'yet another Java book' phenomenon. Every serious Java programmer should own a copy." -- Gary McGraw, Ph.D., Research Scientist at Reliable Software Technologies and coauthor of Java Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 15:56:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21710 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:56:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21686 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (root@ppp-7.mexcom.net [206.103.65.199]) by ns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA05062; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:55:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3596CABD.54FF5FF0@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:59:09 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. References: <199806281924.MAA01831@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I changed the c to METEOR_INPUT_DEV_SVIDEO and at least I get a black screen with some colored trace lines, maybe out of sync, rather than a blank, blue screen. This is progres:-) Thanks ed Amancio Hasty wrote: > > For setting the input use: > c = METEOR_INPUT_DEV1; > > if (ioctl(bt848, METEORSINPUT, &c) < 0) { > printf("ioctl failed: %d\n", errno); > exit(1); > } > > Where "c", can be : > > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV0 0x01000 /* camera input 0 -- default */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_RCA METEOR_INPUT_DEV0 > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV1 0x02000 /* camera input 1 */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV2 0x04000 /* camera input 2 */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV3 0x08000 /* camera input 3 */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_RGB 0x0a000 /* for rgb version of meteor */ > #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV_SVIDEO 0x06000 /* S-video input port */ > > Amancio > > > I am very happy with fxtv on a super cheap bt489 > > card and a svideo camera/no tuner. > > > > I decided to use videocaptura.c as the base for > > a cgi to take a photo and display it on a webpage. > > > > Before I continue, does anyone know of web interface > > tools for the bt84[89] already done? > > > > My problem is that I can't make the card use the > > svideo input because the default is composite video. > > > > I tried fxtv with the fxtv -defaultInput svideo with > > no effect. I put defaultInput in the Fxtv app-defaults > > file with no effect, but changing the input form the > > fxtv window works perfectly. > > > > I tried a quick hack in the fxtv code and recompiled > > with no luck. > > > > Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > > > ed > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 28 16:03:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22393 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22378 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05162; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806282302.QAA05162@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Edwin Culp cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:59:09 CDT." <3596CABD.54FF5FF0@webwizard.org.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:02:46 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Post your program. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 03:23:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18127 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18117 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 03:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06164 Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:23:06 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35976B09.59E2@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:23:06 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Handley CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Improvements to the bt848 driver - SW Pan and Zoom. References: <21172.898894728@north.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark > The downside unfortunately is interlacing. For me with PAL and only 25 frames per second, the interlacing is even more obvious as the is longer between each field.I'm well aware of the interlacing artefacts, and for my compression codec, I only grab even fields using YUV_12. So, for the sub-section code I would only grab sub sections of even or odd fields. That limits me to sub sections of a 640x240 image for NTSC, but I would still be able to capture a 192x128 box from within this field. Cheers Roger -- Roger Hardiman, | Department of Computer Science, PhD Research Student, | University of Strathclyde, roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | Glasgow, Scotland, UK http://www.cs.strath.ac.uk/~roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 06:22:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12827 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA12787 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:22:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 9:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28969; Mon, 29 Jun 98 09:21:54 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA22242; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:36:24 -0400 Message-Id: <19980628173624.A22228@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:36:24 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Edwin Culp , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Culp , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <35968050.2D16C0B9@webwizard.org.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35968050.2D16C0B9@webwizard.org.mx>; from Edwin Culp on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 12:41:36PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Edwin Culp: |I tried fxtv with the fxtv -defaultInput svideo with |no effect. I put defaultInput in the Fxtv app-defaults |file with no effect, but changing the input form the |fxtv window works perfectly. My bust. The attached patch will fix that right up. Randall --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fxtv-0.47.svideo.patch" --- fxtv-0.47/tv.c Sun May 31 06:02:34 1998 +++ tv.c Sun Jun 28 17:34:07 1998 @@ -492,12 +492,12 @@ if (( strstr( App_res.def_input, "tuner" ) != NULL ) || ( strstr( App_res.def_input, "TUNER" ) != NULL )) input_dev = TV_DEVICE_TUNER; - else if (( strstr( App_res.def_input, "video" ) != NULL ) || - ( strstr( App_res.def_input, "VIDEO" ) != NULL )) - input_dev = TV_DEVICE_VIDEO; else if (( strstr( App_res.def_input, "svideo" ) != NULL ) || ( strstr( App_res.def_input, "SVIDEO" ) != NULL )) input_dev = TV_DEVICE_SVIDEO; + else if (( strstr( App_res.def_input, "video" ) != NULL ) || + ( strstr( App_res.def_input, "VIDEO" ) != NULL )) + input_dev = TV_DEVICE_VIDEO; if ( input_dev != -1 ) TVCAPTURESetInputDevice ( c, input_dev ); --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 06:44:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17002 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:44:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16990 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:44:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA16183; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35979A84.3D587C24@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:45:40 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. References: <35968050.2D16C0B9@webwizard.org.mx> <19980628173624.A22228@ct.picker.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper wrote: > > Edwin Culp: > |I tried fxtv with the fxtv -defaultInput svideo with > |no effect. I put defaultInput in the Fxtv app-defaults > |file with no effect, but changing the input form the > |fxtv window works perfectly. > > My bust. The attached patch will fix that right up. > > Randall > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Part 1.2 Name: fxtv-0.47.svideo.patch > Type: Plain Text (text/plain) Just got your mail. I'll try it right now. Thanks a lot. ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 06:52:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18523 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18503 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:52:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-79-234.ca.us.ibm.net [32.100.79.234]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA27944; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:52:11 GMT Message-ID: <35979BAF.C50AD99A@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:50:39 -0700 From: Don Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Capture with videocapture References: <199806281924.MAA01831@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Amancio - I took your suggestion and bought one of those neato Sony EVID-30 cameras. You and Randall have done a fantastic job. It works great, but I am working my way through a couple of issues. 1) FXTV0.47 appears much brighter (actually, washed out is almost more appropriate) than 0.46 off the 2.2.6 CD's. 2) your videocapture demo script (taken from your BT848 web page along with the driver) does work, but it's very dim. I'm still learning and working on it. I see the Read Brightness / Set Brightness commands, I jjust have to learn how to use them. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 06:56:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19068 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19062 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA00491 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DjVu from ATT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Couldn't really think of a better place to post this, but has anyone looked at/played with this? Of course, thee are Linux and Sun binaries, but nothing FreeBSD, but... http://djvu.research.att.com They are claiming compression giving graphics 5->10 times smaller then jpegs... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 07:46:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27552 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:46:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27315 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA17183; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:43:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3597A87A.79D473E9@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:45:14 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. References: <35968050.2D16C0B9@webwizard.org.mx> <19980628173624.A22228@ct.picker.com> <35979A84.3D587C24@webwizard.org.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Edwin Culp wrote: > > Randall Hopper wrote: > > > > Edwin Culp: > > |I tried fxtv with the fxtv -defaultInput svideo with > > |no effect. I put defaultInput in the Fxtv app-defaults > > |file with no effect, but changing the input form the > > |fxtv window works perfectly. > > > > My bust. The attached patch will fix that right up. > > > > Randall > > > Just got your mail. I'll try it right now. Thanks a lot. > > ed Command line works great. It doesn't seem to be reading the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fxtv file though because I changed the Fxtv.defaultInput: svideo with no results. I'll keep looking even though it isn't critical. Thanks again, ed P.D. Before I forget, do you know of a cgi/web based interface for fxtv/bt848 ? TIA ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 10:30:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25835 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25812 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25026; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:30:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806291730.KAA25026@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Don Wilde cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Capture with videocapture In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 06:50:39 PDT." <35979BAF.C50AD99A@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:30:15 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You need 3.0-current's driver please get it from http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html Regards, Amancio > Hi, Amancio - > I took your suggestion and bought one of those neato Sony EVID-30 > cameras. You and Randall have done a fantastic job. It works great, but > I am working my way through a couple of issues. > > 1) FXTV0.47 appears much brighter (actually, washed out is almost more > appropriate) than 0.46 off the 2.2.6 CD's. > > 2) your videocapture demo script (taken from your BT848 web page along > with the driver) does work, but it's very dim. > > I'm still learning and working on it. I see the Read Brightness / Set > Brightness commands, I jjust have to learn how to use them. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 10:43:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28602 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28579 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA08608; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:12:38 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806291612.SAA08608@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: pdf pain... To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:12:38 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy the writer from adobe. The best i can come up with is getting some cheap pdf writer, run it under windows, and use "vnc" to access the machine from X. Any better idea ? thanks luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 10:56:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01443 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01382 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25266 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806291756.KAA25266@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Star Office Service Pack 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:56:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Found this -hackers Hope that is useful, Amancio ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: Received: from sarip.sol.net (mail@sarip.sol.net [169.207.30.120]) by mail.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id JAA13673; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by sarip.sol.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNNS-1.02) with ESMTP id LAA01047; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:28:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12709; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:11:07 -0700 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12300 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12293 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00380; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806291610.JAA00380@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Stefan Zehl cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staroffice 4.0 sp3 running In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:20:02 +0200." <19980629132002.A13667@yoda.pi.musin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:10:36 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-UIDL: ba00250f19104031e76ed8b98e022c33 > Hi, > > I just managed to install Staroffice 4.0sp3. > > It requires the file /proc//cmdline to run. Amazingly enough, it seems that Linux doesn't actually have /proc/curproc, which would have made this a lot simpler. > I have just added (an dummy-version of) cmdline in my local copy of > procfs, but I remember that there was some talk, not to 'bloat' procfs > with such things. The real issue is that the Linux and FreeBSD procfs' have different semantics. > I'm basdically asking now, which route do we want to take ? > an addition to our procfs ? an seperate linux-procfs ? We need a separate linux-procfs as part of the linux emulator; it should mount itself on /compat/linux/procfs. If you're interested in taking this on (please!), I'm sure we can arrange any support that you might need. - -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message ------- End of Forwarded Message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 11:07:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03591 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:07:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp (shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.139.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03517 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from slash@sfc.wide.ad.jp) Received: from enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp (enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.139.92]) by shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.9.0/3.6W05/29/98) with ESMTP id DAA24089; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 03:05:58 +0900 (JST) Received: from enterprise (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.8.7+2.7Wbeta7/3.5Wpl7) with ESMTP id DAA00491; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 03:05:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199806291805.DAA00491@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: slash@ht.sfc.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. From: Tadashi Okoshi In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:50:33 +0200" References: <19980622175033.06733@follo.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 03:05:58 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org About the multiple Bt848 system, according to your advise, I bought following parts. *PentiumII 400MHz *128M RAM *Miro/TV board x 2 *Sound Blaster 64 x 2 *FreeBSD 2.2.1R (The reason why I am using FreeBSD2.2.1R is the OS(RT-Mach) we are now developping based on FreeBSD2.2.1R. So we cannnot use 2.2.6R or 3.0-current) And I downloaded the newest bt848 driver, and reconfigured the kernel. But while "make depend", it said, "../../pci/brooktree848.c:270:opt_bktr.h No such file or directory" Q1. The newest bt848.tgz tree doesn't contain opt_bktr.h. Is it contained in 2.2.5R kernel tree? (2.2.5R is the first release with the bktr driver in kernel source tree.) If it isn't, where can we find this header file? ------ Anyway, I compiled fxtv-0.47(ports) with old bktr driver. But it saids the followings... # make >> Checksum OK for fxtv-0.47.tgz. ===> Building for fxtv-0.47 gmake: Nothing to be done for `Makefile'. cc -O2 -m486 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/tiff34 -I. -DVERS_STR=\"0.47\" -DHAVE_XFREE86 -c remote.c remote.c:69: `MOUSE_SYS_PACKETSIZE' undeclared here (not in a function) remote.c:69: size of array `Events' has non-integer type remote.c: In function `TVRemoteInputProcSysMouse': remote.c:395: `MOUSE_SYS_PACKETSIZE' undeclared (first use this function) remote.c:395: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once remote.c:395: for each function it appears in.) remote.c:395: size of array `buf' has non-integer type remote.c:422: `MOUSE_SYS_SYNCMASK' undeclared (first use this function) remote.c:422: `MOUSE_SYS_SYNC' undeclared (first use this function) remote.c: In function `TVREMOTEOpen': remote.c:619: `MOUSE_SETLEVEL' undeclared (first use this function) remote.c:620: `MOUSE_GETLEVEL' undeclared (first use this function) remote.c:628: structure has no member named `packetsize' remote.c:628: `MOUSE_SYS_PACKETSIZE' undeclared (first use this function) remote.c:629: structure has no member named `syncmask' remote.c:629: `MOUSE_SYS_SYNCMASK' undeclared (first use this function) remote.c:630: structure has no member named `syncmask' remote.c:630: `MOUSE_SYS_SYNC' undeclared (first use this function) gmake: *** [remote.o] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Q2. The reason why I saw there errors is I'm using 2.2.1R? or old bktr driver? I'm using 2.2.1R and have to use 2.2.1R. So can I use the newest bktr driver and the newest Fxtv(0.47) on 2.2.1R? Tadashi Okoshi Keio University, JAPAN slash@okoshi.org or slash@ht.sfc.keio.ac.jp http://www.okoshi.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 13:08:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28126 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28054 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15657; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crab.whistle.com(207.76.205.112), claiming to be "whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd015648; Mon Jun 29 20:04:58 1998 Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by whistle.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA05882; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:01:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199806292001.NAA05882@whistle.com> Subject: Re: pdf pain... In-Reply-To: <199806291612.SAA08608@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Jun 29, 98 06:12:38 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo writes: | I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some | documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice | was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce | PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy | the writer from adobe. Newer versions of Ghostscript can output PDF from PostScript. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 13:56:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07682 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07614 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from neipc-17.cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA14776 Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:55:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3597FFA4.225A@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:57:08 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tadashi Okoshi CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. References: <19980622175033.06733@follo.net> <199806291805.DAA00491@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tadashi Okoshi wrote: > > And I downloaded the newest bt848 driver, and reconfigured the > kernel. But while "make depend", it said, > "../../pci/brooktree848.c:270:opt_bktr.h No such file or directory" To generate opt_bktr.h you need to add the following line to /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 BROOKTREE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT opt_bktr.h It is an auto generated file, produced by the 'config' program Just re-run the config utility on your kernel options file. Sorry, cannot help with fxtv. > > Q2. The reason why I saw there errors is I'm using 2.2.1R? or old bktr > driver? the opt_bktr is a problem of the new driver which needed the new version of options.i386. > I'm using 2.2.1R and have to use 2.2.1R. So can I use > the newest bktr driver and the newest Fxtv(0.47) on 2.2.1R? As far as I know, this will work. Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 14:19:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11771 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11690 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA08801; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:47:05 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806291947.VAA08801@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: pdf pain... To: ambrisko@whistle.com (Doug Ambrisko) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:47:05 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806292001.NAA05882@whistle.com> from "Doug Ambrisko" at Jun 29, 98 01:01:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Luigi Rizzo writes: > | I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some > | documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice > | was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce > | PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy > | the writer from adobe. > > Newer versions of Ghostscript can output PDF from PostScript. i seem to remember that for some kind of licensing problem, gs only outputs uncompressed PDF. Am i wrong ? Ironically, the reason the above people like pdf so much is that files are smaller than uncompressed postscript (especially postscript generated by 50-100MB applications)... but ok, this is a viable alternative, thanks for the pointer. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 14:36:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14622 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ranma.nectar.com (nat.gulfsouth.verio.net [204.27.64.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14573 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@ranma.nectar.com) Received: from ranma.nectar.com (localhost.gulfsouth.verio.net [127.0.0.1]) by ranma.nectar.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09020; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806292132.QAA09020@ranma.nectar.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-pgp262.txt From: Jacques Vidrine In-reply-to: <199806291612.SAA08608@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> References: <199806291612.SAA08608@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: pdf pain... To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:32:31 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I use Ghostscript 5.10 ... see the ports collection. It has a driver for PDF, and a little wrapper script ps2pdf. I use it regularly as part of the trip from LaTeX -> dvi -> ps -> pdf. Jacques Vidrine On 29 June 1998 at 18:12, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some > documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice > was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce > PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy > the writer from adobe. > > The best i can come up with is getting some cheap pdf writer, run it > under windows, and use "vnc" to access the machine from X. Any better > idea ? > > thanks > luigi > -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- > Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione > email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa > tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > _____________________________|______________________________________ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNZgH7zeRhT8JRySpAQEfFQP+OyeKmJcoYv/QdUrxajwnFx9KhbHExWdL c9k8dYbkLS+Xwr6KiCD1JSkeMD37TxyT+nyT/sawpRIMVDof4CfIMqrFjJiG4JhX ksGhDas13k3D8HeJJSxlPD6kk6kS+WtMK0C+SGpO2bPDkZJr/6IHnp4EfgNJJdH8 NN2n4NEJa9c= =XInn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 14:48:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16143 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16126 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19407; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crab.whistle.com(207.76.205.112), claiming to be "whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd019366; Mon Jun 29 21:40:00 1998 Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by whistle.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA06875; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199806292135.OAA06875@whistle.com> Subject: Re: pdf pain... In-Reply-To: <199806291947.VAA08801@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Jun 29, 98 09:47:05 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo writes: | > Luigi Rizzo writes: | > | I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some | > | documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice | > | was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce | > | PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy | > | the writer from adobe. | > | > Newer versions of Ghostscript can output PDF from PostScript. | | i seem to remember that for some kind of licensing problem, gs only | outputs uncompressed PDF. Am i wrong ? I don't know. I just know I can create stuff that acroread can read. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 14:51:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16582 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16519 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gfccall@mailbag.com) Received: from kpw.gfc.net (msn-1-29.x2.binc.net [198.70.31.29]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA22636; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:50:41 -0500 Message-ID: <000601bda3a7$bba599a0$0cc812ac@kpw.gfc.net> Reply-To: "Ken Wills" From: "Ken Wills" To: "Luigi Rizzo" Cc: Subject: Re: pdf pain... Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:49:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doesn't GhostView allow saving as PDF's? (It does on the windows version.....) http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html Ken Wills GFC Call Center Email: gfchelp@gflesch.com Phone: 1-888-4325556 Fax: 1-608-2222432 -----Original Message----- From: Luigi Rizzo To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 3:15 PM Subject: pdf pain... >I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some >documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice >was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce >PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy >the writer from adobe. > >The best i can come up with is getting some cheap pdf writer, run it >under windows, and use "vnc" to access the machine from X. Any better >idea ? > > thanks > luigi >-----------------------------+-------------------------------------- >Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione >email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa >tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) >fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ >_____________________________|______________________________________ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 15:17:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20802 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20706 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:17:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@miller.cs.uwm.edu) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24298; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:16:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:16:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199806292216.RAA24298@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: Re: pdf pain... Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Luigi Rizzo > Subject: pdf pain... > To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > > I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some > documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice > was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce > PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy > the writer from adobe. > > The best i can come up with is getting some cheap pdf writer, run it > under windows, and use "vnc" to access the machine from X. Any better > idea ? I use /usr/ports/print/acroread, but I get the impression this is not what you are looking for. Something like: acroread -toPostScipt < file.pdf >file.ps -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 17:31:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13256 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from blackie.cruzers.com (cruzers.com [205.215.232.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13156 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkulp@board66.cruzers.com) Received: from board66.cruzers.com (board66.cruzers.com [205.215.233.66]) by blackie.cruzers.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03066; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dkulp@localhost) by board66.cruzers.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id RAA24700; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806300030.RAA24700@board66.cruzers.com> From: David Kulp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Doug Ambrisko Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pdf pain... In-Reply-To: <199806292135.OAA06875@whistle.com> References: <199806291947.VAA08801@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> <199806292135.OAA06875@whistle.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From the ps2pdf man page: Currently ps2pdf does a reasonable job on filled/stroked graphics, on bitmap images, and on text in the 14 built-in PDF fonts in the intersection of Windows and ISO Latin-1 encodings. It converts all other text in the PostScript file to bitmaps in the PDF file (although it does only write the bitmap for each character once per page, and only on pages where the character is actually used). It does not compress the output at all, except for character bitmaps: it can't use LZW because of Unisys' patent claims, and it doesn't yet use other compression methods for images. -d Doug Ambrisko writes: > Luigi Rizzo writes: > | > Luigi Rizzo writes: > | > | I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some > | > | documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice > | > | was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce > | > | PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy > | > | the writer from adobe. > | > > | > Newer versions of Ghostscript can output PDF from PostScript. > | > | i seem to remember that for some kind of licensing problem, gs only > | outputs uncompressed PDF. Am i wrong ? > > I don't know. I just know I can create stuff that acroread can read. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 18:00:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18654 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18522 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-79-20.ca.us.ibm.net [32.100.79.20]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA36262; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:58:51 GMT Message-ID: <359837C5.E90958A3@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:56:37 -0700 From: Don Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Capture with videocapture References: <199806291730.KAA25026@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I DL'd 'the current driver driver' and my link still shows up purple in my history. Have you changed it in the last two days? The date showing on the files is May 18 20:34. The README.bt848 file has no dates or VCS info in it. I unpacked the tarball in /usr/src. I then recompiled my kernel. Was that the right course, given that I already had bktr0 in there after I fired up the 0.46 and bt848 driver that came with the 2.2.6 CD's? I have also implemented the 'opts_bktr.h' substitution. Is there a separate compile necessary for the brooktree.c program? I assumed not, since there was no Makefile in the tarball. --> Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 18:11:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21121 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20984 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA21886; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:39:52 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806300109.KAA21886@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: The Hermit Hacker cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:56:30 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:39:51 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Couldn't really think of a better place to post this, but has anyone > looked at/played with this? Of course, thee are Linux and Sun binaries, > but nothing FreeBSD, but... I had a look.. The linux version works under FreeBSD fine, and the image quality for their test pics was good (but what do you expect :) Its fairly slow tho.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 18:29:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24104 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:29:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-20.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24091 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA09108; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:29:35 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:29:35 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-Reply-To: <199806300109.KAA21886@cain.gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > Couldn't really think of a better place to post this, but has anyone > > looked at/played with this? Of course, thee are Linux and Sun binaries, > > but nothing FreeBSD, but... > I had a look.. The linux version works under FreeBSD fine, and the image > quality for their test pics was good (but what do you expect :) > Its fairly slow tho.. slow when viewing, or compresing? Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 18:50:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27572 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27519 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:49:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA22346; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:18:37 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806300148.LAA22346@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: The Hermit Hacker cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:29:35 -0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:18:37 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > quality for their test pics was good (but what do you expect :) > > Its fairly slow tho.. > slow when viewing, or compresing? I didn't try compressing, viewing was fairly slow and thrashy (P100 w/ 64Mb of RAM, but not much _free_ RAM.. YMMV) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 19:06:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00902 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-62.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00765 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA09276; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:05:42 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:05:42 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-Reply-To: <199806300148.LAA22346@cain.gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > > quality for their test pics was good (but what do you expect :) > > > Its fairly slow tho.. > > slow when viewing, or compresing? > I didn't try compressing, viewing was fairly slow and thrashy (P100 w/ 64Mb of > RAM, but not much _free_ RAM.. YMMV) I ran it on a Win95 box, using the Netscape Plug-In, and considering how much smaller the file is from a similar jpeg (~1/6 in some cases), I would imagine that the savings in downloading would offset the decompression, no? And, with more and more ppl using faster computers for their 'primary system', decompressing becomes less of an issue then bandwidth. BTW...by bandwidth, I don't necessarily mean your computer to the 'Net, I mean the 'Net as a whole...if everyone used this, there would be (by AT&Ts claims of 5 to 10x better compression then Jpeg), that much less data (image wise) being strewn across the 'Net... So, you would end up downloading the images faster, and then spending a little more time decompressing, vs downloadign the slower and decompressing them fast... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 19:11:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02119 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:11:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02102 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA22697; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:41:01 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806300211.LAA22697@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: The Hermit Hacker cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:05:42 -0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:41:00 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I ran it on a Win95 box, using the Netscape Plug-In, and > considering how much smaller the file is from a similar jpeg (~1/6 in some > cases), I would imagine that the savings in downloading would offset the > decompression, no? And, with more and more ppl using faster computers for > their 'primary system', decompressing becomes less of an issue then > bandwidth. Oh yeah, it looked very good considering the compression it gets, and I am definatly interested in getting a FreeBSD port :) I'll test it at home on my P233, which should be more suitable :) > (by AT&Ts claims of 5 to 10x better compression then Jpeg), that much less > data (image wise) being strewn across the 'Net... Yes, but from reading the info on the compression scheme it is only suitable for low colour pictures which require crispness (eg text), whereas jpeg is better for pictures with lots of colour (eg images of people etc) Still, I'm just guessing and haven't tried it :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 19:27:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05922 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:27:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05889 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26970; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806300226.TAA26970@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Don Wilde cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Capture with videocapture In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:56:37 PDT." <359837C5.E90958A3@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:26:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not sure whats going on over there I haven't run 2.x in over a year. The brooktree848.c is a driver not a program and it gets build as part the kernel build process. The opt_bktr.h is an include file where options for the driver are included. Things like "#define TUNER ". You have to make sure that the include files are properly installed in your system . The tar ball is for /usr/src/ however the ioctls should also go to /usr/include/machine . This step is usually taken care by a make world. Good Luck, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 19:28:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06108 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:28:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-62.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06061 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:27:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA09366; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:27:42 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:27:42 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-Reply-To: <199806300211.LAA22697@cain.gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > (by AT&Ts claims of 5 to 10x better compression then Jpeg), that much less > > data (image wise) being strewn across the 'Net... > Yes, but from reading the info on the compression scheme it is only suitable > for low colour pictures which require crispness (eg text), whereas jpeg is > better for pictures with lots of colour (eg images of people etc) > Still, I'm just guessing and haven't tried it :) The talk about using it for online catalogs (one of there examples is an electronics catalog)...from what I understand of it so far, it "pulls" the text away from the graphics, and compresses each seperately. They had one graphic up that looked like an architectual drawing...when the image decompresses, you see the 'text' first, and then the graphic gets overlayed on top of it (really neat to watch, I find)...I was suprised at what it considered to be 'text'...text != alphanumeric. Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 19:32:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06875 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06753 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA22988; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:01:30 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806300231.MAA22988@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: The Hermit Hacker cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:27:42 -0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:01:28 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > is an electronics catalog)...from what I understand of it so far, it > "pulls" the text away from the graphics, and compresses each seperately. Wow.. that's neat.. > They had one graphic up that looked like an architectual > drawing...when the image decompresses, you see the 'text' first, and then > the graphic gets overlayed on top of it (really neat to watch, I find)...I > was suprised at what it considered to be 'text'...text != alphanumeric. Hmm.. probably things that have sharp egdes I suppose Sounds very cool, and also explains why it takes so much RAM =) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 19:38:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07923 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-62.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07901 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:37:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA09432; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:37:46 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:37:46 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-Reply-To: <199806300231.MAA22988@cain.gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > is an electronics catalog)...from what I understand of it so far, it > > "pulls" the text away from the graphics, and compresses each seperately. > Wow.. that's neat.. Again, don't take my word on this...this is only my understanding from what I read...I freely admit that I could have mis-interpreted :) Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 21:01:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21560 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21549 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:01:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA24744; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:01:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:01:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199806300401.WAA24744@softweyr.com> Subject: Re: pdf pain... From: Wes Peters To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, james@miller.cs.uwm.edu Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Wes Peters In-Reply-To: <199806292216.RAA24298@miller.cs.uwm.edu> References: <199806292216.RAA24298@miller.cs.uwm.edu> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: BeatWare Mail-It 1.6 (TrialWare) X-BeOS-Platform: Intel or clone Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id VAA21555 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My hidden microphone recorded Jim Lowe (james@miller.cs.uwm.edu) saying: % > From: Luigi Rizzo % > Subject: pdf pain... % > To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG % > % > I am having a problem... people here are insisting that some % > documentation be made available in PDF (the previous format of choice % > was Word DOC format...) so i wonder if there is a solution to produce % > PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or having to buy % > the writer from adobe. % > % > The best i can come up with is getting some cheap pdf writer, run it % > under windows, and use "vnc" to access the machine from X. Any better % > idea ? % % I use /usr/ports/print/acroread, but I get the impression this is not % what you are looking for. % % Something like: acroread -toPostScipt < file.pdf >file.ps I think he's looking for something to convert from "other" formats to PDF. If you have one, it is available for Solaris, SunOS, HP-UX, and AIX. You could stick it on another machine somewhere and use it via X. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 21:24:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25003 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:24:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ctserv.itfs.nsk.su (ctserv.itfs.nsk.su [193.124.36.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24923 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nnd@ctserv.itfs.nsk.su) Received: (from nnd@localhost) by ctserv.itfs.nsk.su (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29563; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:34:37 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from nnd) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:34:37 +0700 (NSS) From: "Nickolay N. Dudorov" Message-Id: <199806300434.LAA29563@ctserv.itfs.nsk.su> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DjVu from ATT In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980202 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article you wrote: > Couldn't really think of a better place to post this, but has anyone > looked at/played with this? Of course, thee are Linux and Sun binaries, > but nothing FreeBSD, but... > http://djvu.research.att.com > They are claiming compression giving graphics 5->10 times smaller then > jpegs... This is very COOL software from the very COLD WAR times :-( There is the extract from their ... DjVu Compressor License Agreement ....... Licensee acknowledges that the Software is subject to U.S. export laws and regulations and any use or transfer of such Software must be authorized under those regulations. Licensee hereby assures AT&T that Licensee will not, directly or indirectly, "export" or "reexport" the Software to Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Cuba, Estonia, Georgia, Iran, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan, Laos, Latvia, Libya, Lithuania, Moldova, Mongolia, North Korea, People's Republic of China, Romania, Russia, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, or Vietnam. The obligations of this written assurance shall survive the term of this or any other related agreement. For purposes of this Paragraph, "export" and "reexport" mean transferring or releasing to another country or to a national of another country (wherever that person is located) by any means-- physical, electronic, or otherwise. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 29 22:32:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03400 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:32:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA03390 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA09365; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:01:53 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806300401.GAA09365@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: pdf pain... To: dkulp@neomorphic.com (David Kulp) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:01:53 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ambrisko@whistle.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806300030.RAA24700@board66.cruzers.com> from "David Kulp" at Jun 29, 98 05:29:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, thanks to all those who pointed out that ghostscript can emit pdf. I tried with a non-compressed ps output from dvips and size seems to remain about the same. it is fast, the only issue is the absence of compression. But that i will leave as an issue for those who are asking me for PDF instead of gzipped postscript :) > does not compress the output at all, except for character > bitmaps: it can't use LZW because of Unisys' patent > claims, and it doesn't yet use other compression methods > for images. actually, i saw some posting on the LZW patent mentioning that the non-us (europe) patent only refers to hardware implementations ... i'll try to dig it out and post it (maybe one can come out with non-us gs patches... similar to the crypto stuff...) Speaking of the opposite conversion (pdf->ps) that Jim mentioned: ghostscript is very slow at this and produces huge files (a pain when you have to print a page in the middle of a long document since it appears to scan the whole document at the same slow pace). Acroread also produces huge files, although it is quite slow as well (faster than ghostscript, but much slower than both during rendering -- this i don't understand, perhaps it is because it generates 16 times as much data because the resolution goes up from 72dpi to 300dpi ? (but when producing postscript it really shouldn't generate bitmaps!) Anyways... i get what i pay for, just wondering if the commercial version of the adobe tools are similarly slow. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 02:33:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12913 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:33:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12890 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) Received: from brunos-sun.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.185]; by hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5/S-4.0) with SMTP; id KAA01411; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:33:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:33:05 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199806300933.KAA01411@hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Received: locally by brunos-sun (SMI-8.6/QMW-client-3.2b); poster "scott"; id KAA08829; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:27:32 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: dkulp@neomorphic.com (David Kulp), ambrisko@whistle.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pdf pain... In-Reply-To: <199806300401.GAA09365@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> References: <199806300030.RAA24700@board66.cruzers.com> <199806300401.GAA09365@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo said: >Ok, thanks to all those who pointed out that ghostscript can emit pdf. > >I tried with a non-compressed ps output from dvips and size seems to >remain about the same. it is fast, the only issue is the absence of >compression. But that i will leave as an issue for those who are asking >me for PDF instead of gzipped postscript :) > >> does not compress the output at all, except for character >> bitmaps: it can't use LZW because of Unisys' patent >> claims, and it doesn't yet use other compression methods >> for images. > >actually, i saw some posting on the LZW patent mentioning that the >non-us (europe) patent only refers to hardware implementations ... i'll >try to dig it out and post it (maybe one can come out with non-us >gs patches... similar to the crypto stuff...) > >Speaking of the opposite conversion (pdf->ps) that Jim mentioned: >ghostscript is very slow at this and produces huge files (a pain when >you have to print a page in the middle of a long document since it appears >to scan the whole document at the same slow pace). Acroread also >produces huge files, although it is quite slow as well (faster than >ghostscript, but much slower than both during rendering -- this i >don't understand, perhaps it is because it generates 16 times as >much data because the resolution goes up from 72dpi to 300dpi ? >(but when producing postscript it really shouldn't generate bitmaps!) > >Anyways... i get what i pay for, just wondering if the commercial >version of the adobe tools are similarly slow. My department has a shared (as in one person can use it at a time) copy of the Adobe Distiller on a Mac. I have no idea how fast this Mac is soI can't offer any speed comparisons, but it does produce PDF that is generally smaller and faster to display than ghostscript. It's not *too* painful (really) to use the Mac for 5 minutes every so often when something needs to be converted. I tend to do this for final versions of documents and just use gs for the drafts. Since you need the PDF for other people, couldn't your department cough up for one Distiller licence? Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 03:13:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17987 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 03:13:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pc02.labcontrol.com (pc02.labcontrol.com [194.163.70.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17978 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 03:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@pc02.labcontrol.com) Received: (from marc@localhost) by pc02.labcontrol.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00510; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:11:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:11:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199806301011.MAA00510@pc02.labcontrol.com> From: Marc van Woerkom To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199806291612.SAA08608@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> (message from Luigi Rizzo on Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:12:38 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: pdf pain... Reply-to: lmarc@mail.labcontrol.com Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > so i wonder if there is a solution to produce > PDF from postscript without having to run Windows and/or > having to buy the writer from adobe. Ghostscript contains a ps2pdf. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 03:50:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23419 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 03:50:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA23412 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 03:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 6:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01729; Tue, 30 Jun 98 06:49:36 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA08518; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:49:26 -0400 Message-Id: <19980630064926.A7427@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:49:26 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Tadashi Okoshi , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. Mail-Followup-To: Tadashi Okoshi , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980622175033.06733@follo.net> <199806291805.DAA00491@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806291805.DAA00491@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp>; from Tadashi Okoshi on Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 03:05:58AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, the 2.2.1 system you're compiling on doesn't have a recent moused/syscons interface. Compiling on 2.2.1 really isn't supported for now, so I'd recomment just grabbing the 2.2.2 package: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/packages-stable/graphics/fxtv-0.47.tgz and see if you have better luck. If not, you can try removing remote.c, rebuilding, and commenting out the one or two calls that are defined in remote.c. That may get you going. Randall Tadashi Okoshi: ... | Anyway, I compiled fxtv-0.47(ports) with old bktr driver. But |it saids the followings... | |# make |>> Checksum OK for fxtv-0.47.tgz. |===> Building for fxtv-0.47 |gmake: Nothing to be done for `Makefile'. |cc -O2 -m486 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/tiff34 -I. -DVERS_STR=\"0.47\" -DHAVE_XFREE86 -c remote.c |remote.c:69: `MOUSE_SYS_PACKETSIZE' undeclared here (not in a function) |remote.c:69: size of array `Events' has non-integer type |remote.c: In function `TVRemoteInputProcSysMouse': |remote.c:395: `MOUSE_SYS_PACKETSIZE' undeclared (first use this function) |remote.c:395: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |remote.c:395: for each function it appears in.) |remote.c:395: size of array `buf' has non-integer type |remote.c:422: `MOUSE_SYS_SYNCMASK' undeclared (first use this function) |remote.c:422: `MOUSE_SYS_SYNC' undeclared (first use this function) |remote.c: In function `TVREMOTEOpen': |remote.c:619: `MOUSE_SETLEVEL' undeclared (first use this function) |remote.c:620: `MOUSE_GETLEVEL' undeclared (first use this function) |remote.c:628: structure has no member named `packetsize' |remote.c:628: `MOUSE_SYS_PACKETSIZE' undeclared (first use this function) |remote.c:629: structure has no member named `syncmask' |remote.c:629: `MOUSE_SYS_SYNCMASK' undeclared (first use this function) |remote.c:630: structure has no member named `syncmask' |remote.c:630: `MOUSE_SYS_SYNC' undeclared (first use this function) |gmake: *** [remote.o] Error 1 |*** Error code 2 | |Q2. The reason why I saw there errors is I'm using 2.2.1R? or old bktr | driver? I'm using 2.2.1R and have to use 2.2.1R. So can I use | the newest bktr driver and the newest Fxtv(0.47) on 2.2.1R? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 05:42:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12933 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 05:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp (shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.139.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12920 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 05:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from slash@sfc.wide.ad.jp) Received: from enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp (enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.139.92]) by shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.9.0/3.6W05/29/98) with ESMTP id VAA16019; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:41:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from enterprise (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.8.7+2.7Wbeta7/3.5Wpl7) with ESMTP id VAA09398; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:41:34 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199806301241.VAA09398@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: rhh@ct.picker.com Cc: slash@ht.sfc.keio.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. From: Tadashi Okoshi In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:49:26 -0400" References: <19980630064926.A7427@ct.picker.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:41:34 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you, Randall. Anyway, I sovled the problem. Bt848 1) prepare for opt_bktr.h 2) configure kernel with the newest Bt848 driver. Fxtv-0.47 1) add -D"_PATH_MOUSEREMOTE" to CFLAGS in Makefile 2) commentout 1line about #define 3) gmake And now, fxtv-0.47 works well in my 2.2.1R. Thank you all. Tadashi Okoshi Keio University,JAPAN slash@okoshi.org or slash@ht.sfc.keio.ac.jp http://www.okoshi.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 06:59:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25792 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from matrix.42.org (sec@[194.246.248.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25775 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sec@42.org) Received: (from sec@localhost) by matrix.42.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) id PAA15502 (sender ); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:59:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19980630155906.A15123@matrix.42.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:59:06 +0200 From: Stefan `Sec` Zehl To: Amancio Hasty Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: staroffice 4 sp3. X-Current-Backlog: 243 messages References: <199806281803.LAA28768@uhf.wireless.net> <199806282035.NAA02436@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.8i In-Reply-To: <199806282035.NAA02436@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 10:48:08PM +0200 I-love-doing-this: really X-URL: http://sec.42.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 10:48:08PM +0200, Amancio Hasty wrote: > I guess the problematic version is the Service Pack 3. Has anyone in > the list managed to get Star Office Service Pack 3 to work? Jup, I have. The problem is rather simple. It won't work without the /proc//cmdline - file. So your choice is either a) to hack procfs to create this file (i have only partially succeeded in this) b) to guess the pid of the staroffice-process and create /compat/linux/proc//cmdline by hand. (guessing the pid is easy, if you start it with 'exec' :-) I already posted this to 'hackers' but I'm not sure if it went through, since i read this list via an mail2news-gate. CU, Sec -- Programs that make a computer worth to use: FreeBSD, zsh, mutt, wmx, procmail, vim, perl, less, LaTeX, fetch, slrn, screen, ssh, pgp, ircII, sendfile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 11:43:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11527 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:43:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11516 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05444; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:04:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:04:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199806301804.OAA05444@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: dkulp@neomorphic.com, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: Re: pdf pain... Cc: ambrisko@whistle.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Ok, thanks to all those who pointed out that ghostscript can emit pdf. > > I tried with a non-compressed ps output from dvips and size seems to > remain about the same. it is fast, the only issue is the absence of > compression. But that i will leave as an issue for those who are asking > me for PDF instead of gzipped postscript :) > > > does not compress the output at all, except for character > > bitmaps: it can't use LZW because of Unisys' patent > > claims, and it doesn't yet use other compression methods > > for images. > > actually, i saw some posting on the LZW patent mentioning that the > non-us (europe) patent only refers to hardware implementations ... i'll > try to dig it out and post it (maybe one can come out with non-us > gs patches... similar to the crypto stuff...) Newer versions of PDF (>=1.2?) supports zlib based compression and it is preferred over the LZW compression -- Adobe Distiller on my Mac generates zlib compressed streams. It wouldn't be too hard to teach ghostscript to do that. -lq > Speaking of the opposite conversion (pdf->ps) that Jim mentioned: > ghostscript is very slow at this and produces huge files (a pain when > you have to print a page in the middle of a long document since it appears > to scan the whole document at the same slow pace). Acroread also > produces huge files, although it is quite slow as well (faster than > ghostscript, but much slower than both during rendering -- this i > don't understand, perhaps it is because it generates 16 times as > much data because the resolution goes up from 72dpi to 300dpi ? > (but when producing postscript it really shouldn't generate bitmaps!) > > Anyways... i get what i pay for, just wondering if the commercial > version of the adobe tools are similarly slow. > > cheers > luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 14:06:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04727 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04629 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:05:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23309; Tue, 30 Jun 98 17:03:52 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14058; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:03:35 -0400 Message-Id: <19980630170334.B14018@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:03:34 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Tadashi Okoshi Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. Mail-Followup-To: Tadashi Okoshi , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980630064926.A7427@ct.picker.com> <199806301241.VAA09398@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806301241.VAA09398@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp>; from Tadashi Okoshi on Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 09:41:34PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tadashi Okoshi: |Thank you, Randall. |Anyway, I sovled the problem. ... |Fxtv-0.47 |1) add -D"_PATH_MOUSEREMOTE" to CFLAGS in Makefile |2) commentout 1line about #define |3) gmake | |And now, fxtv-0.47 works well in my 2.2.1R. Ok, sounds good. I just added: /* This is an easy way to keep fxtv buildable on FreeBSD versions that */ /* have "old" versions of the moused/syscons stuff -- e.g. 2.2.1 */ #ifndef MOUSE_SYS_PACKETSIZE # undef OLD_DEV_SYSMOUSE_STUFF # define _PATH_MOUSEREMOTE "foo" #endif to the top of remote.c in my pre-0.48 tree, so this should prevent pre-2.2 folks from having to hack future versions. Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 14:16:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06092 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06000 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:15:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23789; Tue, 30 Jun 98 17:14:49 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14099; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:14:41 -0400 Message-Id: <19980630171441.A14059@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:14:41 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Edwin Culp , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Culp , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <35968050.2D16C0B9@webwizard.org.mx> <19980628173624.A22228@ct.picker.com> <35979A84.3D587C24@webwizard.org.mx> <3597A87A.79D473E9@webwizard.org.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3597A87A.79D473E9@webwizard.org.mx>; from Edwin Culp on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 09:45:14AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Edwin Culp: |Command line works great. It doesn't seem to be reading the |/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fxtv file though because I |changed the Fxtv.defaultInput: svideo with no results. I'll |keep looking even though it isn't critical. Well, it works for me. I suspect you have this resource set someplace else such that it overrides your /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fxtv setting. Change your defaultInput resource to "svideo" and then run: appres Fxtv | grep defaultInput If this doesn't print "svideo" you have an overriding resource somewhere. Here are the typical locations, in order of precedence: xrdb -query | grep defaultInput user resource files (Fxtv in $XAPPLRESDIR / $XUSERFILESEARCHPATH) global app rsrc files (Fxtv in /usr/X11R6/lib/... or $XFILESEARCHPATH) Note that this search alg is simplified a bit (I skipped some things) but it'll probably get you where you need to go to find the problem. |Thanks again, Glad to help. |P.D. Before I forget, do you know of a cgi/web based interface |for fxtv/bt848 ? No CGI/WEB I/F to Fxtv, but several folks have posted cmd line utils for capturing pics with the bt848 driver. Might search the mailing list archives for details (www.freebsd.org/search.html). Jonny (jonny@gta.ufrj.br) wrote one of them for CGI. Might ask him. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 16:48:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03395 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03286 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (root@ppp-4.mexcom.net [206.103.65.196]) by dns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA09298; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:47:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <359979C6.186B6285@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:50:30 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web interface for fxtv. References: <35968050.2D16C0B9@webwizard.org.mx> <19980628173624.A22228@ct.picker.com> <35979A84.3D587C24@webwizard.org.mx> <3597A87A.79D473E9@webwizard.org.mx> <19980630171441.A14059@ct.picker.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks a lot. As I often due, I'm starting it on the command line and working on a simple command lin frame capture program that seems to be out of sync. I'll quit putting this off and solve it once and for all. I'm sure there is a conflict and I couldn't ask for better bases to start from. Thanks again ed Randall Hopper wrote: > > Edwin Culp: > |Command line works great. It doesn't seem to be reading the > |/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fxtv file though because I > |changed the Fxtv.defaultInput: svideo with no results. I'll > |keep looking even though it isn't critical. > > Well, it works for me. I suspect you have this resource set someplace else > such that it overrides your /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fxtv setting. > > Change your defaultInput resource to "svideo" and then run: > > appres Fxtv | grep defaultInput > > If this doesn't print "svideo" you have an overriding resource somewhere. > Here are the typical locations, in order of precedence: > > > xrdb -query | grep defaultInput > user resource files (Fxtv in $XAPPLRESDIR / $XUSERFILESEARCHPATH) > global app rsrc files (Fxtv in /usr/X11R6/lib/... or $XFILESEARCHPATH) > > Note that this search alg is simplified a bit (I skipped some things) but > it'll probably get you where you need to go to find the problem. > > |Thanks again, > > Glad to help. > > |P.D. Before I forget, do you know of a cgi/web based interface > |for fxtv/bt848 ? > > No CGI/WEB I/F to Fxtv, but several folks have posted cmd line utils for > capturing pics with the bt848 driver. Might search the mailing list > archives for details (www.freebsd.org/search.html). Jonny > (jonny@gta.ufrj.br) wrote one of them for CGI. Might ask him. > > Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 20:17:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08744 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA08728 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id DAA10640; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:46:54 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199807010146.DAA10640@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Magicpoint! To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:46:54 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, lately have been playing a little bit with magicpoint, and i have to say it is a great slide presentation tool. So i would like to advertise the tool and ask people if they want to give it a try, suggest possible enhancements, report bugs either in the implementation or in the documentation (very scarce at the moment), and perhaps help adding features. Weekly snapshot of mgp are available at ftp://sh.wide.ad.jp/WIDE/free-ware/mgp-snap and in particular the 980629 snap includes the possibility to define "styles" which was the main thing I was missing from the 1.03a version currently in ports. These snaps compile cleanly on FreeBSD (just do sh configure ; xmkmf -a; make so you should not have trouble with it. Features of magicpoint: * it is a slide presentation tool capable of displaying text, graphics (most image types incl. postscript) ; * it runs under X11 so you can have the presentation locally or on a remote display; * it lets you annotate the slides at runtime with a simple built-in drawing tool (a pen writing lines of different colors); * can launch applications and either show the output formatted in the slide, or show the application's window within the slide with full control; * uses a very simple, ascii based, slide definition language, so you can build slides in a matter of minutes using a simple editor. * can generate html or postscript from the slides. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 20:25:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10319 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10311 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id DAA10681; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:55:13 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199807010155.DAA10681@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: pdf pain... To: luoqi@watermarkgroup.com (Luoqi Chen) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 03:55:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: dkulp@neomorphic.com, ambrisko@whistle.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806301804.OAA05444@lor.watermarkgroup.com> from "Luoqi Chen" at Jun 30, 98 02:04:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Newer versions of PDF (>=1.2?) supports zlib based compression and > it is preferred over the LZW compression -- Adobe Distiller on my Mac > generates zlib compressed streams. It wouldn't be too hard to teach > ghostscript to do that. any idea if this can be done afterwards (e.g. compressing the pdf output by ghostscript) ? gv has no problems expanding the code on the fly of course... cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 22:11:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25710 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25705 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:11:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04684; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807010511.WAA04684@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Magicpoint! In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 03:46:54 +0200." <199807010146.DAA10640@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:11:18 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I play a little with magicpoing and was very impressed! Got a simple request, Remote Mouse Support for magicpoint Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 22:14:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25966 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA25961 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:14:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id FAA10877; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 05:44:00 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199807010344.FAA10877@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Magicpoint! To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 05:44:00 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199807010511.WAA04684@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Jun 30, 98 10:10:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I play a little with magicpoing and was very impressed! > > Got a simple request, Remote Mouse Support for magicpoint what's the difference between a remote mouse and an ordinary one ? I suppose it is more anX11 issue than an application issue, am I wrong ? luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 30 22:41:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29197 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29192 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04785; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807010541.WAA04785@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Magicpoint! In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 05:44:00 +0200." <199807010344.FAA10877@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:41:11 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The difference between an ordinary mouse and a Remote Mouse is that the remote mouse makes you look cool while you give a presentation or watching fxtv 8) The two have different apis for an ordinay mouse we go thru the X thing and for the Remote Mouse we access it via moused . moused creates a unix domain socket to serve Remote Mouse events and ordinary mouse events get dispatched via the normal mechanism. The remote mouse -- doubles as a microsoft mouse , serves 15 plus mouse events and can share the same serial line with your mouse. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 05:34:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10751 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 05:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from onyx.southwind.net (root@onyx.southwind.net [206.53.103.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10743 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 05:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bstevens@southwind.net) Received: from tmekscds (ewk4.southwind.net [206.53.98.68]) by onyx.southwind.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA00458 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:34:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701bda4eb$64bfc080$446235ce@tmekscds> From: "BC" To: Subject: windows 98 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:25:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDA4C1.7A67AC60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDA4C1.7A67AC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could you please advise if STB TV PCI is compatible with windows 98. = presently the board cannot be found in windows 98, and I have had it mounted on = the same computer with windows 95 and it worked well. 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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDA4C1.7A67AC60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 06:54:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19392 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA19353 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id OAA11196; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:23:36 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199807011223.OAA11196@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Magicpoint! To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:23:36 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199807010541.WAA04785@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Jun 30, 98 10:40:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The difference between an ordinary mouse and a Remote Mouse is that the > remote mouse makes you look cool while you give a presentation or > watching fxtv 8) oh, but the Libretto is almost as small as a mouse! > The two have different apis for an ordinay mouse we go thru the X > thing and for the Remote Mouse we access it via moused . hmm... i use moused and have XF86Config set to use /dev/sysmouse. Isn't it enough ? cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 07:12:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21519 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thumbs.org (thunder.thumbs.org [194.217.125.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21514 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from russ@thumbs.org) Received: (from russ@localhost) by thumbs.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id PAA04362; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:12:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from russ) Message-ID: <19980701151216.01366@demon.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:12:16 +0100 From: Russ Paton To: BC Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 References: <000701bda4eb$64bfc080$446235ce@tmekscds> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <000701bda4eb$64bfc080$446235ce@tmekscds>; from BC on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 07:25:52AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BC said: > Could you please advise if STB TV PCI is compatible with windows 98. presently > the board cannot be found in windows 98, and I have had it mounted on the > same computer with windows 95 and it worked well. Thanks Pardon me if this is a really stupid question, but why on earth would anyone want to ask a Windows 98 Question on a FreeBSD mailing list? Regards Russ -- Russ Paton russ@thumbs.org http://www.thumbs.org eWay'eray onlyway umanhay afterway allway To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 08:17:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28103 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mooseriver.com (dynamic26.pm01.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28096 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA14403; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980701081718.A14383@mooseriver.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:17:18 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Russ Paton , BC Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 Reply-To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com References: <000701bda4eb$64bfc080$446235ce@tmekscds> <19980701151216.01366@demon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980701151216.01366@demon.net>; from Russ Paton on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 03:12:16PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 03:12:16PM +0100, Russ Paton wrote: > BC said: > > Could you please advise if STB TV PCI is compatible with windows > > 98. presently the board cannot be found in windows 98, and I have had > > it mounted on the same computer with windows 95 and it worked > > well. Thanks > > Pardon me if this is a really stupid question, but why on earth would anyone > want to ask a Windows 98 Question on a FreeBSD mailing list? > The fact that they are using a microshit product should be a good hint. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.7 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 08:41:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00195 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00188 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14916; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199807011539.LAA14916@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, luoqi@watermarkgroup.com Subject: Re: pdf pain... Cc: ambrisko@whistle.com, dkulp@neomorphic.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Newer versions of PDF (>=1.2?) supports zlib based compression and > > it is preferred over the LZW compression -- Adobe Distiller on my Mac > > generates zlib compressed streams. It wouldn't be too hard to teach > > ghostscript to do that. > > any idea if this can be done afterwards (e.g. compressing the pdf > output by ghostscript) ? gv has no problems expanding the code on the > fly of course... > > cheers > luigi > -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- > Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione > email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa > tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > _____________________________|______________________________________ > I've just tried ghostscript's ps2pdf. With the most recently version in ports, ghostscript does zlib compression, and it's on by default. So upgrade your ghostscript to the latest version (5.10) and you're all set. -lq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 08:49:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01121 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01115 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06612; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807011548.IAA06612@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com cc: Russ Paton , BC , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 08:17:18 PDT." <19980701081718.A14383@mooseriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 08:48:50 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Bt848 is not a microsoft product . The last I heard microsoft didn't own Rockwell. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 09:16:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05798 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05792 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06883 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807011616.JAA06883@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Service Patch for Star Office Service Pack 3 8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 09:16:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just fired up Star Office Service 3 after following Andre Albsmeier 's instructions Enjoy, Amancio ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: Received: from sarip.sol.net (mail@sarip.sol.net [169.207.30.120]) by mail2.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with ESMTP id CAA11980; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 02:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by sarip.sol.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNNS-1.02) with ESMTP id EAA04724; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 04:21:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA16254; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 01:23:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 01:22:15 -0700 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15604 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 01:17:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15599 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 01:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA26374 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:16:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15792 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:16:40 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02104 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:17:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199807010817.KAA05134@internal> Subject: Re: Staroffice 4.0 sp3 running In-Reply-To: <19980630160415.A2179@yoda.pi.musin.de> from Stefan Zehl at "Jun 30, 98 04:04:15 pm" To: sec@yoda.pi.musin.de (Stefan Zehl) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:17:03 +0200 (CEST) Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-UIDL: e6d19f65b7bd623cb0f993838e49a7aa > On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 08:59:40PM +0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > However, the installed thing doesn't run properly and consumes only cpu time > > but I hadn't had time to investigate this yet... > > The installed program requires '/proc//cmdline', too. Doing that > sed-thing again on the soffice.bin will probably help you. Thanks for the hint... After modyfing lib/libsal364.so as well Staroffice 4.0 SP3 is running here. So the complete instructions are: 1. Unpack the sp3 distribution 2. cd into the Install directory (where setup.bin is) 3. sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' < setup.bin > setup.new 4. mv setup.new setup.bin 5. chmod 755 setup.bin 6. touch /compat/linux/so 7. ./setup The install program should run and install StarOffice. Maybe I missed some step but this is closely what I have done. Then, after installing it, go to the lib directory and do the sed command on libsal364.so: 1. sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' < libsal364.so > libsal364.new 2. mv libsal364.new libsal364.so 3. chmod 755 libsal364.so The new /compat/linux/so path can be anything that does not exceed the 16 characters. It only has to point to an empty file... -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message ------- End of Forwarded Message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 09:19:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06466 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:19:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06452 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20389 Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:18:42 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <359A6162.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 17:18:43 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com CC: Russ Paton , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 References: <000701bda4eb$64bfc080$446235ce@tmekscds> <19980701151216.01366@demon.net> <19980701081718.A14383@mooseriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> why on earth would anyone want to ask a Windows 98 Question on a >> FreeBSD mailing list? > The fact that they are using a microshit product should be a good hint. > It is becoming increasingly common for Win95/NT/98 questions to pop up on this group. But none knows why. My bt848 related posts can be found via the Deja News search engine. Now sure how it found them (mail2news gateway?) but perhaps this is a clue. If you are are loyal Microsoft follower, you probably have no idea what FreeBSD is and just post your questions to any news group which seems to mention the hardware you are having problems with. Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 10:03:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13212 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:03:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mooseriver.com (dynamic26.pm01.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13183 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:03:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA15206; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980701100311.A15153@mooseriver.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:03:11 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Amancio Hasty , jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com Cc: Russ Paton , BC , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 Reply-To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com References: <19980701081718.A14383@mooseriver.com> <199807011548.IAA06612@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807011548.IAA06612@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 08:48:50AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 08:48:50AM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > The Bt848 is not a microsoft product . The last I heard microsoft didn't > own Rockwell. > I meant windows 95 and 98. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.7 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 10:57:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23182 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23176 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19802; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199807011757.MAA19802@plains.NoDak.edu> To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com, roger@cs.strath.ac.uk Subject: Re: windows 98 Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, russ@demon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> why on earth would anyone want to ask a Windows 98 Question on a > >> FreeBSD mailing list? > > > The fact that they are using a microshit product should be a good hint. > > > > It is becoming increasingly common for Win95/NT/98 questions to > pop up on this group. But none knows why. Joe User uses their web browser to search one of the many web search engine for the card they have a problem with...up comes a FreeBSD page that talks about the driver written for FreeBSD. Joe User sees (in Charlie Brown style) WAA, WAA, WAA, (his card), WAA, WAA, WAA, WAA (mailing list name). Joe User send message to mailling list. It is annoying to see M$ questions, but Joe User is not informed enough to know that your web page is not close enough to what he wants to know. I get them all the time. It is my impression that if Win/NT questions bother you, throw them away, or if you are the driver author and you feel you must answer, state that you do not have that information because FreeBSD is a seperate/different OS. If I am Joe User and I get back the above reply from a "FreeBSD whatever that is" mailling list, I don't think my impression of the group and desire to ever use that product in the future will be too high. It can take one flippant comment to sour someone for ever. --mark. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 11:36:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27810 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from blackie.cruzers.com (cruzers.com [205.215.232.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27805 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:35:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkulp@board66.cruzers.com) Received: from board66.cruzers.com (board66.cruzers.com [205.215.233.66]) by blackie.cruzers.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12018 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dkulp@localhost) by board66.cruzers.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id LAA27884; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807011835.LAA27884@board66.cruzers.com> From: David Kulp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 In-Reply-To: <359A6162.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> References: <000701bda4eb$64bfc080$446235ce@tmekscds> <19980701151216.01366@demon.net> <19980701081718.A14383@mooseriver.com> <359A6162.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman writes: > >> why on earth would anyone want to ask a Windows 98 Question on a > >> FreeBSD mailing list? > > > The fact that they are using a microshit product should be a good hint. > > > > It is becoming increasingly common for Win95/NT/98 questions to > pop up on this group. But none knows why. Here's a guess: go to www.findmail.com, scroll to the bottom, and search for "STB" or "BT848". freebsd-multimedia comes up frequently. As Roger said, the person making the query probably hasn't a clue about what "freebsd" means, but "multimedia" sounds promising. Despite the annoyance of occasional random posts, I think findmail is actually a cool service since it offers free archiving, searching, and much better threading than at freebsd.org. -d > My bt848 related posts can be found via the Deja News search > engine. Now sure how it found them (mail2news gateway?) > but perhaps this is a clue. > > If you are are loyal Microsoft follower, you probably have no idea > what FreeBSD is and just post your questions to any news group which > seems to mention the hardware you are having problems with. > > > Roger > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 12:00:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01891 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01864 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA02678; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:59:18 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id UAA12532; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:59:14 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980701205913.19781@follo.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:59:13 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: David Kulp , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 References: <000701bda4eb$64bfc080$446235ce@tmekscds> <19980701151216.01366@demon.net> <19980701081718.A14383@mooseriver.com> <359A6162.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> <199807011835.LAA27884@board66.cruzers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199807011835.LAA27884@board66.cruzers.com>; from David Kulp on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 11:35:37AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 11:35:37AM -0700, David Kulp wrote: > Roger Hardiman writes: > > >> why on earth would anyone want to ask a Windows 98 Question on a > > >> FreeBSD mailing list? > > > > > The fact that they are using a microshit product should be a good hint. > > > > > > > It is becoming increasingly common for Win95/NT/98 questions to > > pop up on this group. But none knows why. > > Here's a guess: go to www.findmail.com, scroll to the bottom, and > search for "STB" or "BT848". freebsd-multimedia comes up frequently. > As Roger said, the person making the query probably hasn't a clue > about what "freebsd" means, but "multimedia" sounds promising. I _don't_ think these posts come from findmail. The started being frequent long before www.findmail.com existed (or was out of beta, at any rate). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 12:24:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06067 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from north.lcs.mit.edu (north.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06061 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjh@north.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from north.lcs.mit.edu by north.lcs.mit.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA04460; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:24:42 -0400 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: Information Sciences Institute, USC X-Phone: +1 617 253 6011 To: Mark Tinguely cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 12:57:10 CDT." <199807011757.MAA19802@plains.NoDak.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 15:24:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4458.899321082@north.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Joe User uses their web browser to search one of the many web search engine >for the card they have a problem with...up comes a FreeBSD page that talks >about the driver written for FreeBSD. Joe User sees (in Charlie Brown style) >WAA, WAA, WAA, (his card), WAA, WAA, WAA, WAA (mailing list name). >Joe User send message to mailling list. > >It is annoying to see M$ questions, but Joe User is not informed enough to >know that your web page is not close enough to what he wants to know. I get >them all the time. The technological solution to this problem would be to only allow postings from members of the list. Non-members would get a reply that politely explains what the mailing list is for, what FreeBSD is, and that if they're still interested and try again, their mail _will_ be forwarded to the list. The list server would keep a cache of non-members that mailed in the last 48 hrs, and allow them to post to the list without being a member. It would also serve as a simple spam filter as most spammers don't read the replies or use a fake reply-to address. But this discussion is getting off the point... Cheers, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 13:31:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16606 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16592 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00992; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807012030.NAA00992@rah.star-gate.com> To: Mark Handley cc: Mark Tinguely , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: windows 98 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 15:24:42 EDT." <4458.899321082@north.lcs.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <989.899325036.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:30:36 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I like that idea a lot . I think is jmb who is maintaining the majordomo lists. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 16:09:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11268 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:09:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11260 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA13046; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:39:09 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980702083909.K10452@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:39:09 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: David Kulp , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 References: <000701bda4eb$64bfc080$446235ce@tmekscds> <19980701151216.01366@demon.net> <19980701081718.A14383@mooseriver.com> <359A6162.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> <199807011835.LAA27884@board66.cruzers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807011835.LAA27884@board66.cruzers.com>; from David Kulp on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 11:35:37AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 1 July 1998 at 11:35:37 -0700, David Kulp wrote: > Roger Hardiman writes: >>>> why on earth would anyone want to ask a Windows 98 Question on a >>>> FreeBSD mailing list? >> >>> The fact that they are using a microshit product should be a good hint. >>> >> >> It is becoming increasingly common for Win95/NT/98 questions to >> pop up on this group. But none knows why. > > Here's a guess: go to www.findmail.com, scroll to the bottom, and > search for "STB" or "BT848". freebsd-multimedia comes up frequently. > As Roger said, the person making the query probably hasn't a clue > about what "freebsd" means, but "multimedia" sounds promising. Yes, this seems reasonable. A message about Macintosh disks appeared in -questions yesterday, saying they were having problems with the language on the web site. Turned out they had picked up some dejanews things and had been looking at a Japanese web site. I fear this problem is here to stay. Hopefully we'll be able to deal with the next one with less than 10 followups. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 16:11:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11608 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:11:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11554; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA13057; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:40:32 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980702084032.L10452@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:40:32 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mark Handley , Mark Tinguely Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: windows 98 References: <199807011757.MAA19802@plains.NoDak.edu> <4458.899321082@north.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <4458.899321082@north.lcs.mit.edu>; from Mark Handley on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 03:24:42PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 1 July 1998 at 15:24:42 -0400, Mark Handley wrote: > >> Joe User uses their web browser to search one of the many web search engine >> for the card they have a problem with...up comes a FreeBSD page that talks >> about the driver written for FreeBSD. Joe User sees (in Charlie Brown style) >> WAA, WAA, WAA, (his card), WAA, WAA, WAA, WAA (mailing list name). >> Joe User send message to mailling list. >> >> It is annoying to see M$ questions, but Joe User is not informed enough to >> know that your web page is not close enough to what he wants to know. I get >> them all the time. > > The technological solution to this problem would be to only allow > postings from members of the list. Non-members would get a reply that > politely explains what the mailing list is for, what FreeBSD is, and > that if they're still interested and try again, their mail _will_ be > forwarded to the list. The list server would keep a cache of > non-members that mailed in the last 48 hrs, and allow them to post to > the list without being a member. > > It would also serve as a simple spam filter as most spammers don't > read the replies or use a fake reply-to address. On -questions, at any rate, we certainly *don't* want this. But I suppose we could have different policies for different lists. jmb? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 16:23:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14513 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:23:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14505; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199807012323.QAA14505@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: windows 98 In-Reply-To: <19980702084032.L10452@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Jul 2, 98 08:40:32 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mjh@east.isi.edu, tinguely@plains.nodak.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 1 July 1998 at 15:24:42 -0400, Mark Handley wrote: > > > >> Joe User uses their web browser to search one of the many web search engine > >> for the card they have a problem with...up comes a FreeBSD page that talks > >> about the driver written for FreeBSD. Joe User sees (in Charlie Brown style) > >> WAA, WAA, WAA, (his card), WAA, WAA, WAA, WAA (mailing list name). > >> Joe User send message to mailling list. > >> > >> It is annoying to see M$ questions, but Joe User is not informed enough to > >> know that your web page is not close enough to what he wants to know. I get > >> them all the time. > > > > The technological solution to this problem would be to only allow > > postings from members of the list. Non-members would get a reply that > > politely explains what the mailing list is for, what FreeBSD is, and > > that if they're still interested and try again, their mail _will_ be > > forwarded to the list. The list server would keep a cache of > > non-members that mailed in the last 48 hrs, and allow them to post to > > the list without being a member. > > > > It would also serve as a simple spam filter as most spammers don't > > read the replies or use a fake reply-to address. > > On -questions, at any rate, we certainly *don't* want this. But I > suppose we could have different policies for different lists. jmb? sounds possible....would help to cut down on spam as well i expect. how was gonna mail in the diffs to majordomo-1.94.4? ;) jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 19:16:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11953 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11918; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:16:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01960; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:16:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807020216.TAA01960@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey), mjh@east.isi.edu, tinguely@plains.nodak.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 16:23:16 PDT." <199807012323.QAA14505@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 19:16:38 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > i expect. how was gonna mail in the diffs to majordomo-1.94.4? Do you mean that majordomo-1.94.4 doesn't have policies on a per mailing list basis? Because if that is the case , I am willing to take a look at majordomo this weekend. Tnks! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 19:22:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12793 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:22:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12784; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:22:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199807020222.TAA12784@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: windows 98 In-Reply-To: <199807020216.TAA01960@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jul 1, 98 07:16:38 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com, mjh@east.isi.edu, tinguely@plains.nodak.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > > i expect. how was gonna mail in the diffs to majordomo-1.94.4? > > Do you mean that majordomo-1.94.4 doesn't have policies on a per mailing list > basis? > > Because if that is the case , I am willing to take a look at majordomo > this weekend. some policies yes, but we often hear of suggestions for policies that majordomo does not support. storing mail and then releasing it later if resent is not one that is supported "out of the box". as far as i know. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 19:25:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13202 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13196; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02055; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807020225.TAA02055@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: grog@lemis.com, mjh@east.isi.edu, tinguely@plains.nodak.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Jul 1998 19:22:47 PDT." <199807020222.TAA12784@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 19:25:16 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I see however what we are asking to have the multimedia mailing list accept mail *only* from members. Can you do that? Tnks, Amancio > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > i expect. how was gonna mail in the diffs to majordomo-1.94.4? > > > > Do you mean that majordomo-1.94.4 doesn't have policies on a per mailing list > > basis? > > > > Because if that is the case , I am willing to take a look at majordomo > > this weekend. > > some policies yes, but we often hear of suggestions for > policies that majordomo does not support. storing mail > and then releasing it later if resent is not one that > is supported "out of the box". as far as i know. > jmb > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 19:47:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15315 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wireless.4d.net (wireless.4d.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15303; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [207.137.157.140]) by wireless.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA29279; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA02523; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:47:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 In-Reply-To: <199807020225.TAA02055@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I see however what we are asking to have the multimedia mailing list > accept mail *only* from members. Can you do that? > > Tnks, > Amancio Majordomo supported this since 1.94.1.. I had to do this on several of my mailing lists on uhf because of SPAM.. A lot simpler than the original suggestion (which I also like). restrict_post = $LIST in the mailing list config file does the trick.. Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 20:11:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18038 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18020; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08898; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:11:01 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980702131055.21136@welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:10:55 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Greg Lehey Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: windows 98 References: <199807011757.MAA19802@plains.NoDak.edu> <4458.899321082@north.lcs.mit.edu> <19980702084032.L10452@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <19980702084032.L10452@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 08:40:32AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 08:40:32AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 1 July 1998 at 15:24:42 -0400, Mark Handley wrote: > > > >> Joe User uses their web browser to search one of the many web search engine > >> for the card they have a problem with...up comes a FreeBSD page that talks > >> about the driver written for FreeBSD. Joe User sees (in Charlie Brown style) > >> WAA, WAA, WAA, (his card), WAA, WAA, WAA, WAA (mailing list name). > >> Joe User send message to mailling list. > >> > >> It is annoying to see M$ questions, but Joe User is not informed enough to > >> know that your web page is not close enough to what he wants to know. I get > >> them all the time. > > > > The technological solution to this problem would be to only allow > > postings from members of the list. Non-members would get a reply that > > politely explains what the mailing list is for, what FreeBSD is, and > > that if they're still interested and try again, their mail _will_ be > > forwarded to the list. The list server would keep a cache of > > non-members that mailed in the last 48 hrs, and allow them to post to > > the list without being a member. > > > > It would also serve as a simple spam filter as most spammers don't > > read the replies or use a fake reply-to address. > > On -questions, at any rate, we certainly *don't* want this. But I > suppose we could have different policies for different lists. jmb? What makes -multimedia so special? If this change is available, people will want every other list (except perhaps -questions) to be a closed list too :-) and each will generate a long discussion. Majordomo is enough of a mess as it is, the kind of mess that's safer to add to than change. For the closed lists I run, non-subscribers' messages are forwarded to the list-owner. It might be possible to change this to forward these messages (and no other bad messages) to another address, perhaps another list or an auto-responder or some whiz-bang script. But is it really worth it? Considering the number of subscribers and volume of mail, mistakes don't occur much and will not increase rapidly. It could be argued that mistakes from list members are more frequent than mistakes from outsiders, depending on one's pet annoyances. Spam *will* increase, and IMHO spam is what any changes should target. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 20:11:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18152 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:11:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18125 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:11:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07798 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807020311.UAA07798@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Multimedia is now a closed mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:11:54 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Only members are allowed to post to the multimedia mailing list. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 20:26:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20424 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (jonny@roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20379; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01130; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:25:17 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199807020325.AAA01130@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: windows 98 In-Reply-To: <199807020225.TAA02055@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jul 1, 98 07:25:16 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:25:17 -0300 (EST) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com, mjh@east.isi.edu, tinguely@plains.nodak.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Amancio Hasty) // I see however what we are asking to have the multimedia mailing list // accept mail *only* from members. Can you do that? IIRC, this was not exactly the initial suggestion. // > Amancio Hasty wrote: // > > > i expect. how was gonna mail in the diffs to majordomo-1.94.4? // > > // > > Do you mean that majordomo-1.94.4 doesn't have policies on a per mailing list // > > basis? // > > // > > Because if that is the case , I am willing to take a look at majordomo // > > this weekend. // > // > some policies yes, but we often hear of suggestions for // > policies that majordomo does not support. storing mail // > and then releasing it later if resent is not one that // > is supported "out of the box". as far as i know. Not storing it, but caching the user (something that formail, from the procmail package, may do for you) and allowing the user to send the message 1) if he is subscribed to the list (this one may need a bit of majordomo hacking, sending rejected mail to another address, instead of back to the sender), OR 2) he is trying to send a message again (this one based on Sender: or From: field caching). I'm not very attracted to this setup, since my experience with "closed" lists is bad for me, since I like to send mail from very different email addresses depending on where I'm sitting at that moment. :) But I must agree that it solves those two problems cited: 1) People lost from mommy M$ home, and 2) spammers from hell. The sender cache should be per-list, since spammers will send messages to every list, and if it gets cached on the first, the following ones will be allowed to him. The message sent back should explain what FreeBSD is, what are the objectives of that list, and that the user could send his message again if it satisfies those objectives. The formail caches can only be set by size, and not by time, so it may require some tuning from time to time. I've done some playing with procmail as a filter in distributed lists before. We had a "global" list for local users, and wanted to allow anybody inside the campus to send mail to it, even if the sender is not subscribed in the list, but also wanted to disallow everybody outside the campus to send mail to the list, and send back a message explaining why. This saved us from a lot of external spamming since. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 20:46:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23277 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23268; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14988; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807020346.UAA14988@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Sue Blake cc: Greg Lehey , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: windows 98 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jul 1998 13:10:55 +1000." <19980702131055.21136@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:46:02 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The list is now closed and it is time to go back to our multimedia related topics. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 2 05:15:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10352 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10300 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 8:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26257; Thu, 2 Jul 98 08:14:37 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA01539; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:14:27 -0400 Message-Id: <19980702081427.A29650@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:14:27 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multimedia is now a closed mailing list Mail-Followup-To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199807020311.UAA07798@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807020311.UAA07798@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 08:11:54PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty: |Only members are allowed to post to the multimedia mailing list. This is a bad idea IMO. Some newer folks that pick up the Bt848 driver or some FreeBSD util and have trouble with it want to mail a question without signing up for a mailing list, waiting until they know they're getting the messages, post the question, accumulate a bunch of irrelevent list mail, get their answer, and then unsubscribe. They'll more likely just drop the driver/utility, forget the problem, and go onto something else. That's what we'll be encouraging. Don't forget that not everyone has an ISP that let's them accumulate the mail traffic some mailing lists produce, even if they're willing to put up with the inconvenience of subscribe/wait/post/wait/unsubscribe/clean house. I do this same thing with various S/W I use. Do the few Windoze posts we get here from time to time annoy you that much? Hey man, relax and take a vacation. ;-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 2 05:36:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12947 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA12932 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 8:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26902; Thu, 2 Jul 98 08:34:54 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA01958; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:34:46 -0400 Message-Id: <19980702083446.A1918@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:34:46 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Edicted list policy (was Re: windows 98) Mail-Followup-To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199807011757.MAA19802@plains.NoDak.edu> <4458.899321082@north.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <4458.899321082@north.lcs.mit.edu>; from Mark Handley on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 03:24:42PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Handley: |The technological solution to this problem would be to only allow |postings from members of the list. Non-members would get a reply that ... Amancio Hasty: |I like that idea a lot . I think is jmb who is maintaining the majordomo |lists. ... Amancio Hasty: |I see however what we are asking to have the multimedia mailing list |accept mail *only* from members. Can you do that? ... Amancio Hasty: |The list is now closed and it is time to go back to our multimedia |related topics. Hmm. I see 2 people that are in the counted group "we" in "we are asking to have the multimedia mailing list [closed]". And "we" seem to have changed the policy for the whole group based upon that. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 2 06:52:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24573 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24567; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 06:52:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10338; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:51:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:51:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199807021351.IAA10338@plains.NoDak.edu> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 Cc: grog@lemis.com, mjh@east.isi.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think patching majordomo to close the multimedia mailing list is a high tech solution for a low tech problem. the web page: http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html (where nephites find by web search engines invites mail question, and I quote: "You can reach us: multimedia@freebsd.org", and it is hyperlinked and everything...of course you are asking for uninformed (not my first choice of word) people to ask uninformed questions. the point that I was trying to make is that adding the mailing list address to a web page is an invitation to these kinds of mail. Adding a better explaination of the appropriate use of the mailing list will cut back on most blind queries. the remaining queries will be the truely frustrated and the totally clueless...IMHO, we don't have to help them; ignore them if we want, but there is no excuse to flame them. who knows the web page may introduce FreeBSD to a person that knows no alternative other than M$, and may see that FreeBSD could be an alternative. I think the traffic we getting in annoying M$, or even Linux questions can be chalked up to the price of Public Relation. if you want to restrict -multimedia to developers only, then take the mailing list out of the web page. --mark. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 2 07:09:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27117 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27078; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:09:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27634; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:09:08 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id QAA17114; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:09:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980702160907.45465@follo.net> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:09:07 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Amancio Hasty , jmb@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Edicted list policy (was Re: windows 98) References: <199807011757.MAA19802@plains.NoDak.edu> <4458.899321082@north.lcs.mit.edu> <19980702083446.A1918@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19980702083446.A1918@ct.picker.com>; from Randall Hopper on Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 08:34:46AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 08:34:46AM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: > Hmm. I see 2 people that are in the counted group "we" in "we are asking > to have the multimedia mailing list [closed]". And "we" seem to have > changed the policy for the whole group based upon that. This will result in my messages not getting to the list except when I remember to do magic (I'm subscribed over my FreeBSD.ORG account, to be able to move around FreeBSD-related mail to different other accounts depending on where I'm located.) jmb, would you consider adding an extra file to restrict_post (I assume you use restrict_post), with a list of "known people"? If you create a suitable group and make it group-writable, Amancio can administer it (since he asked for it *grin*) Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 2 07:13:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28028 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (insane@gw.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27970 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id HAA07661; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980702071251.A7518@oneinsane.net> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:12:51 -0700 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows 98 Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980702131055.21136@welearn.com.au> <199807020346.UAA14988@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807020346.UAA14988@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 08:46:02PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.6-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If this discussion continues can we make the subject modification to FreeBSD's Majordomo Modifications proposal or something. Plus it would be nice if it was like in hackers or something. Thanks Ron -Just my .02 worth On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 08:46:02PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > The list is now closed and it is time to go back to our multimedia > related topics. > > Amancio -- -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 3 08:30:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12750 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12742 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00734 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:04:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807030604.XAA00734@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Just Got A Hauppauge video capture card with a Bt878 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 23:04:05 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The driver needs tweaking in order to work with this chipset. Will report back as soon as I get it working. Enjoy, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 4 13:20:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09169 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:20:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09148 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:20:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06116 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:20:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807042020.NAA06116@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bt878 support Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 13:20:43 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The latest driver now supports the Bt878 and it seems to work with my Hauppauge Wincast / FM (Bt878 based board). I modify the Hauppauge's model detection a little and the algorithm will improve as I get more data points : 1. Brand/model 2. Tuner component part number 3. output of fxtv-0.47 -debug startup 4. output of new sign.c 5. Any info that you may have on the card like the output of win95 hardware description for your bt848 card. Probably the best tactic is to check in the driver and as the report comes in of not being able to detect a card properly to then ask for the info 8) The driver is available at : http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html and ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/bt848.tar.gz --------------------------------------------------------------- On a different note, since now I have a card with FM capability I got to play with Flemming Jacobsen 's radio app . First it is a most cool app !! Only one minor gotcha my stations seems to be off by -5.5 so to tune to 103.7 I have to type in 98.2 so I am wondering if anyone else is having this problem. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 4 19:55:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12618 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12613 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00497; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 19:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807050255.TAA00497@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jacques Vidrine cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt878 support In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Jul 1998 21:05:01 CDT." <199807050205.VAA01277@bone.nectar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 19:55:34 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Your video input is not coming from mux3 so fxtv needs to be modified to support it for mux3 is not specified in fxtv if you like you can modify fxtv and for video input specify : #define METEOR_INPUT_DEV3 0x08000 /* camera input 3 */ This input is only for Bt878 for Bt848 does not support such port. Or add a new menu entry which allows you to select METEOR_INPUT_DEV3. I will look into why the driver is not detecting your card properly. What type of CPU do you have? I have a Pentium Pro 200Mhz and I don't have any problems with the driver however with my Pentium 200Mhz I did experience some problems . Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message