From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 29 19:24:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01204 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from saers.com (pe090.persbraten.vgs.no [194.143.107.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01108 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:24:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Received: from localhost (berenmls@localhost) by saers.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA02766 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:08:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:08:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Niklas Saers cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MSDOSFS In-Reply-To: <3515ADBF.FB39CDFD@kew.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi. I was just wondering... last night I mounted a MS-DOS floppy, which had some bad tracks on it. Because of this, I was no longer able to access, not even umount the floppy. But, what was worse, was that both my two harddisk-partitions which were mounted as msdosfs became just as unavaible as the floppy. Why does the entire filesystem go down with one minor problem such as the floppy? And how can I avoid this. (except from using bad floppies, that is :) ) Niklas Saers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 29 19:34:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05341 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:34:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05019 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:34:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02727 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:41:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:41:14 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-Reply-To: <199803290701.XAA11364@kithrup.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk While chatting about upgade glitches, my major one was with /dev entries. For a variety of reasons, I didn't tell sysinstall to do anything with my second scsi drive. When I rebooted with my own fstab referencing second drive, things came to a screetching halt when the /dev entries were not found. I would have expected /dev/MAKEDEV sd1 to make all the slice entries. In fact it did make /dev/sd1s[1-4] but NOT /dev/sd1s[1-4][a-h]. I eventually did /dev/MAKEDEV sd1s1a which made them all for slice 1, but I don't understand why the simplest form didn't do the Right Thing. Is this behavior a bug or a feature? -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 29 19:41:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07427 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:41:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07010 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15886; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199803291705.JAA15886@austin.polstra.com> To: freebsd@bug.fe.up.pt Subject: Re: Staying -STABLE with make world In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:05:15 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In article , wrote: > 2. If I customize any file in the tree that will be updated > by CVSup what will happen if that file must be changed by > the cvsup program? Can it merge the new version with the > one I've changed? If not what will happen? It won't merge the changes -- it will simply overwrite the file. (Maybe that will improve in a future version of CVSup.) However, you can set up a "refuse" file listing the areas that you don't want CVSup to touch. See cvsup(1) for details. If you do a lot of customization and have enough disk space, you might be better off CVSupping the CVS repository. Then check out your sources from there using CVS. CVS is able to merge changes in the way you describe. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 29 20:15:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20692 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:15:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (tcgr1-61.dialup.alliance.net [207.74.43.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20560 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:15:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [192.168.0.1]) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00294 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:50:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@megaweapon.zigg.com) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:50:10 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Lost /dev/wd0s1a Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Well, yesterday megaweapon took a dive. I'm not quite sure why, but when I got here to check it out, I noticed that it couldn't mount wd0s1a (which I found out later was missing.) All the wd0s1?'s were missing, and I could not remake the devices because the fs was read-only and I could not fsck it (is there a way around this?) I finally booted by 2.2.5-STABLE kernel, which was able to use wd0a... and everything's finally up again. I guess I'm wondering if anyone else has run into this on 2.2.6-BETA (2.2.6-RELEASE or -STABLE, whatever it's named right now, is coming up...) Matt Behrens | James McDougal dies in prison on March http://www.zigg.com/ | 9, 1998. The government says "cardiac Chanop Script Coordinator | arrest". Why doesn't anyone remember World-Wide FreeNet IRC Network | Vince Foster? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 29 20:17:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09622 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:48:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.northlink.com (root@prescott.northlink.com [209.75.160.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09189 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:46:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unixsa@smtp.northlink.com) Received: from Emry (pm2-20.northlink.com [209.75.160.114]) by smtp.northlink.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19736 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:17:45 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803291617.JAA19736@smtp.northlink.com> From: unixsa@northlink.com To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:15:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am getting many messages either: 1. TO: stable@freebsd.org or 2. TO: other people with CC: stable@freebsd.org Please remove me from your mailing lists. Wilton Hughes 520-776-8272 3682 Estate Drive Prescott, Arizona 86303-7523 Wilton Hughes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 29 20:20:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23182 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:20:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garlic.acadiau.ca (root@garlic.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22967; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@acadiau.ca) Received: from iceberg (iceberg [131.162.2.91]) by garlic.acadiau.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14590; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:19:25 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:19:57 -0400 (AST) From: Marc Fournier X-Sender: marc@iceberg To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Morning... Well, tonight, my #$^%#@%@ FreeBSD system is locked up solid...again. It's pretty much a daily occurance now, and I'm at a loss as to what to try next. I just put in a brand new 2940UW controller, with two UW drives (I'd tell you which, except I can't get to the system right now), and there is an IDE drive as the root drive for it... Symptom: if I telnet to the machine, I get: telnet hub.org Trying 209.47.148.200... Connected to hub.org. Escape character is '^]'. And it just sits there... At one persons suggestion, I've disabled SCBPAGING, but that apparently hasn't helped any... I'm running 2.2-STABLE on that machine right now, and reported a problem this morning with a panic: biodone... error message. I'm slowly going through the mailing list search engines, and get the feeling that the 2940 controllers might not be a "good pick" as far as controllers are concerned :( Thoughts? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 29 20:21:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23445 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:21:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-209-138-27-238.ATL.BELLSOUTH.net [209.138.27.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23322 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:20:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04498 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:02:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:02:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:01:13 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream To: stable@freebsg.org Subject: PPP's unstable behavior has anyone else experienced odd/unstable/buggy behavior with ppp? or were there just some changes to it that would create bugs with old config files? -Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 29 20:42:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02410 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-43.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02191; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:41:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA07262; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:40:17 -0400 (AST) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:40:15 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Chris Csanady cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: panic: biodone: buffer not busy (Was: Re: Signal 11's.. (and SCB problems) ) In-Reply-To: <199803291535.JAA18988@friley585.res.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1369468618-891207615=:1536" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1369468618-891207615=:1536 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Chris Csanady wrote: > I have actually tried removing the AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE and AHC_TAGENABLE > lines, although that does not seem to help under SMP. I have not tried > that without SMP though. Well, I removed the AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE option, but left in the TAGENABLE, and it panic'd a few hours later (panic'ng is better then hanging...debuggable, at least)... I've included here both the config file for my machine, as it stands now, as well as the gdb output for the core dump. 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Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:10:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01063 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:10:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24374; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:10:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: John Fieber cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:41:14 EST." Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:10:53 -0800 Message-ID: <24370.891241853@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Is this behavior a bug or a feature? I think it's a feature. Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 04:12:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23502 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-209-138-26-203.ATL.BELLSOUTH.net [209.138.26.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23489; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA11309; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:10:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:10:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: Marc Fournier cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk the 2940UW is a great controller. I have a system that (up to this point) has NEVER crashed. I've run 2.2.5-STABLE and 2.2.6-STABLE on it. My longest uptime was 51 days, 15:31, and that's cause I got really lazy about cvsup, and decided to see how long it would stay up...and then they went and released 2.2.6... here are a few questions for you to answer: 1) can you repeatedly connect to it (but not get a login prompt) 2) how long do you wait for the prompt 3) what is the machine doing 4) do you have any sort of firewall between you and the box 5) what are the loads on the box 6) are there any in.telnetd.core files 7) are there any login.core files 8) what minor release are you running (2, 5, or 6) -Jon On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Marc Fournier wrote: > > Morning... > > Well, tonight, my #$^%#@%@ FreeBSD system is locked up > solid...again. It's pretty much a daily occurance now, and I'm at a loss > as to what to try next. > > I just put in a brand new 2940UW controller, with two UW drives > (I'd tell you which, except I can't get to the system right now), and > there is an IDE drive as the root drive for it... > > Symptom: if I telnet to the machine, I get: > > telnet hub.org > Trying 209.47.148.200... > Connected to hub.org. > Escape character is '^]'. > > And it just sits there... > > At one persons suggestion, I've disabled SCBPAGING, but that > apparently hasn't helped any... > > I'm running 2.2-STABLE on that machine right now, and reported a > problem this morning with a panic: biodone... error message. > > I'm slowly going through the mailing list search engines, and get > the feeling that the 2940 controllers might not be a "good pick" as far as > controllers are concerned :( > > Thoughts? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 04:55:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28569 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:55:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garlic.acadiau.ca (root@garlic.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28562; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@acadiau.ca) Received: from iceberg (iceberg [131.162.2.91]) by garlic.acadiau.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA27252; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:53:59 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:54:30 -0400 (AST) From: Marc Fournier X-Sender: marc@iceberg To: Dexnation Holodream cc: Marc Fournier , freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Dexnation Holodream wrote: > the 2940UW is a great controller. I have a system that (up to this point) > has NEVER crashed. I've run 2.2.5-STABLE and 2.2.6-STABLE on it. My > longest uptime was 51 days, 15:31, and that's cause I got really lazy > about cvsup, and decided to see how long it would stay up...and then they > went and released 2.2.6... > > here are a few questions for you to answer: > > 1) can you repeatedly connect to it (but not get a login prompt) Yes... > 2) how long do you wait for the prompt An hour? > 3) what is the machine doing Not sure what you mean here, but its the CVSup server for PostgreSQL, news feeder/peer to 29 other hosts, WWW server for several domains, only a couple being high traffic... > 4) do you have any sort of firewall between you and the box No... > 5) what are the loads on the box Negligible, as far as I know, but I wasn't watching that at the time :( > 6) are there any in.telnetd.core files Have to check when it comes back up, but I don't think so... > 7) are there any login.core files Same as 6... > 8) what minor release are you running (2, 5, or 6) Whatever 2.2-STABLE is as of two days ago... > > -Jon > > On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Marc Fournier wrote: > > > > > Morning... > > > > Well, tonight, my #$^%#@%@ FreeBSD system is locked up > > solid...again. It's pretty much a daily occurance now, and I'm at a loss > > as to what to try next. > > > > I just put in a brand new 2940UW controller, with two UW drives > > (I'd tell you which, except I can't get to the system right now), and > > there is an IDE drive as the root drive for it... > > > > Symptom: if I telnet to the machine, I get: > > > > telnet hub.org > > Trying 209.47.148.200... > > Connected to hub.org. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > > And it just sits there... > > > > At one persons suggestion, I've disabled SCBPAGING, but that > > apparently hasn't helped any... > > > > I'm running 2.2-STABLE on that machine right now, and reported a > > problem this morning with a panic: biodone... error message. > > > > I'm slowly going through the mailing list search engines, and get > > the feeling that the 2940 controllers might not be a "good pick" as far as > > controllers are concerned :( > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 06:55:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13627 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:55:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13621 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:55:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA07003; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:55:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:55:41 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-Reply-To: <24370.891241853@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Is this behavior a bug or a feature? > > I think it's a feature. You sound so certain! :) There should be a bit of explaination if it is a feature because if I need to create sd1s1[a-h]: sh MAKEDEV sd1 doesn't work, sh MAKEDEV sd1s1 doesn't work, but sh MAKEDEV sd1s1a does work. It is plausible that the first form not working is a feature, but I'm not convinced that the second form not working is a feature. That the third form generates sd1s1[a-h] is counter-intuitive to say the least. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 08:37:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28852 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:37:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28843 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA28315; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:37:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA07151; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:37:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:37:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199803301637.JAA07151@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Fieber Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <24370.891241853@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > Is this behavior a bug or a feature? > > > > I think it's a feature. > > You sound so certain! :) I agree with Jordan. > There should be a bit of explaination if it is a feature because > if I need to create sd1s1[a-h]: > > sh MAKEDEV sd1 doesn't work, > sh MAKEDEV sd1s1 doesn't work, but > sh MAKEDEV sd1s1a does work. > > It is plausible that the first form not working is a feature, but > I'm not convinced that the second form not working is a feature. Why not. On my box 'sd1s1' is *NOT* a FreeBSD partition. > That the third form generates sd1s1[a-h] is counter-intuitive to > say the least. Ok, but that doesn't make the second form any more intuitive. IMHO, just because a slice is built doesn't mean it should contain FreeBSD partition entries. I think the current code as written does the right thing, in that it assumes that if you need any partition entries, you might as well get them all. :) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 09:42:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08909 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:42:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jli.com (jli.com [199.2.111.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08835 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:42:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trost@cloud.rain.com) Received: (qmail 21869 invoked by uid 4); 30 Mar 1998 17:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 20767 invoked from network); 30 Mar 1998 17:39:59 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (127.0.0.1) by softdnserror with SMTP; 30 Mar 1998 17:39:59 -0000 To: Dexnation Holodream cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) References: In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 29 Mar 1998 12:02:01 EST. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <20763.891279598.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:39:58 -0800 Message-ID: <20764.891279598@cloud.rain.com> From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Dexnation Holodream writes: has anyone else experienced odd/unstable/buggy behavior with ppp? or were there just some changes to it that would create bugs with old config files? What do you mean by "odd/unstable/buggy"? There have been some changes that may require you to modify config files, but so far, we have about as much information as a doctor with a patient who says, "My arm hurts." Although, if you would like, you can take two aspirin and call me in the morning.... (-: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 09:47:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10058 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:47:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09970 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA07639; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:46:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:46:35 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber Reply-To: John Fieber To: Nate Williams cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-Reply-To: <199803301637.JAA07151@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Nate Williams wrote: > > There should be a bit of explaination if it is a feature because > > if I need to create sd1s1[a-h]: > > > > sh MAKEDEV sd1 doesn't work, > > sh MAKEDEV sd1s1 doesn't work, but > > sh MAKEDEV sd1s1a does work. > > > > It is plausible that the first form not working is a feature, but > > I'm not convinced that the second form not working is a feature. > > Why not. On my box 'sd1s1' is *NOT* a FreeBSD partition. I understand that partition entries may not be appropriate for all slices, but I still think the human interface is wrong. > > That the third form generates sd1s1[a-h] is counter-intuitive to > > say the least. > > Ok, but that doesn't make the second form any more intuitive. Sure it does. There is a well established historical precedent of supplying MAKEDEV with the name and unit of a disk-like device, either physical or logical, to create partitions a-h logically contained within that device. Maybe I'm just whacked, but a slice sure seems like a disk-like device to me. MAKEDEV sd1 creates sd1[a-h]. A well established behavior. MAKEDEV sd1s1 creates sd1s1, but no partitons. Hmm... MAKEDEV sd1s1a creates sd1s1[a-h], but... MAKEDEV sd1a tells me I supplied a bad unit number! Now, where is the consistency in that? Incidentally, if it is an error to generate sd1s1[a-h] for non-FreeBSD slices, is it not also an error to generate sd1[a-h] entries for a "non-dedicated" disk? -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 09:57:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12959 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:57:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12946 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24259 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:57:25 +0100 (MET) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00522 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:57:27 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10690 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:57:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199803301757.TAA13428@intern> Subject: sd0[a-h], are they still needed? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:57:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, please apologize if this has been discussed already but I have been on holidays and might have missed some discussion about this: Will the /dev entries sd0[a-h] still be supported in the future? I still use them on my non-root disks because they are shorter and IMHO easier to read. I think they will be needed on "fully dedicated disks" without a fdisk table but I just want to be sure that they won't be replaced by something else. I am a little bit unsure because there were some mails saying that a lot of things would become easier to handle... Or does this apply only to the sysinstall/fdisk/disklabel/booting stuff? Thanks, and sorry if this has been discussed already, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 10:45:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19782 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:45:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19775 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00959; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:43:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803301843.KAA00959@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Sean Eric Fagan cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just upgraded to 2.2.6 via cvs update In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:30:44 PST." <199803290430.UAA00846@kithrup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:43:06 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > And kerberos is quite broken. Well, it is not necessarily broken, but > it no longer works with the old files. So now I have to figure out > what the new file locations are. Yay. Thanks for participating in the pre-release testing. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 11:18:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25393 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:18:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-209-138-26-203.ATL.BELLSOUTH.net [209.138.26.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25309 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:18:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA13076; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:18:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:17:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: Bill Trost cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20764.891279598@cloud.rain.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Dexnation Holodream writes: > has anyone else experienced odd/unstable/buggy behavior with ppp? or > were there just some changes to it that would create bugs with old > config files? > > What do you mean by "odd/unstable/buggy"? There have been some changes > that may require you to modify config files, but so far, we have about > as much information as a doctor with a patient who says, "My arm hurts." > > Although, if you would like, you can take two aspirin and call me in the > morning.... (-: hey doc...ummm...well...you see...I got this problem...my ppp is hosed. ok...here are the bugs I've discovered: dialin and login, and, manually do a add 0 0 HISADDR get disconnected, or manually disconnect try it again. ppp gets angry when you try to add the route, says it's already there...and it is...the right one, too, except it refuses to route any packets. bug #2: get disconnected. dialin again notice how sometimes you see a slew of # prompts and filenames scroll by at random. notice that you're still at the login prompt (even though you can't see it) about 75% of the time, and you can log in, but the above bug is still present. worse...notice that 25% of the time you're actually AT your root prompt. maybe it's just on my machine, but I don't like the fact that it's happening...I'm going to look at my config, however, and change it to the new format. -Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 11:34:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00775 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00753 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:34:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01094; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:30:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803301930.LAA01094@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: John Fieber cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:55:41 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:30:52 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > Is this behavior a bug or a feature? > > > > I think it's a feature. > > You sound so certain! :) > > There should be a bit of explaination if it is a feature because > if I need to create sd1s1[a-h]: > > sh MAKEDEV sd1 doesn't work, > sh MAKEDEV sd1s1 doesn't work, but > sh MAKEDEV sd1s1a does work. > > It is plausible that the first form not working is a feature, but > I'm not convinced that the second form not working is a feature. > That the third form generates sd1s1[a-h] is counter-intuitive to > say the least. Bruce pointed out that to create all the device nodes for sd0 you would be looking at 32 slices * 8 partitions * block/char = 512 nodes. Agreed, "./MAKEDEV sd1s1" intuitively should produce the partition nodes. Fixes would be gladly accepted, as long as they preserve the current behaviour. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 11:37:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01614 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:37:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01601 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:37:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29406; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:37:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA07704; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:37:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:37:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199803301937.MAA07704@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Fieber Cc: Nate Williams , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <199803301637.JAA07151@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > There should be a bit of explaination if it is a feature because > > > if I need to create sd1s1[a-h]: > > > > > > sh MAKEDEV sd1 doesn't work, > > > sh MAKEDEV sd1s1 doesn't work, but > > > sh MAKEDEV sd1s1a does work. > > > > > > It is plausible that the first form not working is a feature, but > > > I'm not convinced that the second form not working is a feature. > > > > Why not. On my box 'sd1s1' is *NOT* a FreeBSD partition. > > I understand that partition entries may not be appropriate for > all slices, but I still think the human interface is wrong. I think 'wrong' is a bit strong. Matter of fact, I think the human interface is better this way. See below. > > Ok, but that doesn't make the second form any more intuitive. > > Sure it does. There is a well established historical precedent > of supplying MAKEDEV with the name and unit of a disk-like > device, either physical or logical, to create partitions a-h > logically contained within that device. Maybe I'm just whacked, > but a slice sure seems like a disk-like device to me. But it's not. The 'historical precedence' changed at FreeBSD 2.0, so I'd say there's a long historical precedence for *NOT* behaving this way. :) > MAKEDEV sd1 creates sd1[a-h]. A well established behavior. I would argue that it shouldn't now. It should only create the partitions if you give it: MAKEDEV sd1a > MAKEDEV sd1s1 creates sd1s1, but no partitons. Hmm... Because a slice is not a FreeBSD partition. As a matter of fact, more often than not it is NOT a FreeBSD partition. > MAKEDEV sd1s1a creates sd1s1[a-h], but... > MAKEDEV sd1a tells me I supplied a bad unit number! I think this should be fixed as above. > Now, where is the consistency in that? It's inconsistant, not an error. > Incidentally, if it is an error to generate sd1s1[a-h] for > non-FreeBSD slices, is it not also an error to generate sd1[a-h] > entries for a "non-dedicated" disk? Who said anything about an error? It doesn't make sense, but it's ceratainly not an error. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 12:04:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08287 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:04:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08236 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:04:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01229; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:00:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803302000.MAA01229@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Andre Albsmeier cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sd0[a-h], are they still needed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:57:25 +0200." <199803301757.TAA13428@intern> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:00:36 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Will the /dev entries sd0[a-h] still be supported in the future? I still Yes. They represent partitions on a disk which (effectively) does not have a slice table. > use them on my non-root disks because they are shorter and IMHO easier > to read. If these disks have valid slice tables, this usage is incorrect, and will probably not work with 3.0. There will likely not be any changes prior to 3.0 that will affect this usage however. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 12:29:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12995 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:29:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12969 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:29:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07345 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:27:32 +0100 (MET) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21536 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:27:33 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12361 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:27:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199803302027.WAA17951@intern> Subject: Re: sd0[a-h], are they still needed? In-Reply-To: <199803302000.MAA01229@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Mar 30, 98 12:00:36 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:27:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > > Will the /dev entries sd0[a-h] still be supported in the future? I still > > Yes. They represent partitions on a disk which (effectively) does not > have a slice table. > > > use them on my non-root disks because they are shorter and IMHO easier > > to read. > > If these disks have valid slice tables, this usage is incorrect, and > will probably not work with 3.0. There will likely not be any changes > prior to 3.0 that will affect this usage however. OK, so when fdisk reports fdisk: Invalid fdisk partition table found I use sd0a otherwise sd0s1a (of course if it is slice 1)? Or do I have to use the sd0s1 form only if the slice does not start at C/H/S = 0/0/1 ? So I have 3 possibilities (of course only for non root-disks): 1.) The whole disk is dedicated to FreeBSD and starting at C/H/S = 0/0/1 ? ==> I have to use sd0a. 2.) Like 1. but there is also a single slice entry pointing to that partition: ==> I can use sd0a and sd1s1a 3.) The partition starts somewhere else (e.g. C/H/S=0/1/1) and of course has a slice entry: ==> I must use sd1s1a. Partitions with C/H/S=0/0/1 are the "dangerously dedicated" partitions. I hope this is right; as I noted before, I couldn't follow the discussion from the start. Thanks so long, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 30 13:48:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28901 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx (EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx [200.33.150.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28601 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from sunix (ver2-102.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.102] (may be forged)) by EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00194; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:37:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <352011EF.6AEE5C67@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:43:11 -0600 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dexnation Holodream CC: Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Dexnation Holodream wrote: > > > Dexnation Holodream writes: > > has anyone else experienced odd/unstable/buggy behavior with ppp? or > > were there just some changes to it that would create bugs with old > > config files? > > > > What do you mean by "odd/unstable/buggy"? There have been some changes > > that may require you to modify config files, but so far, we have about > > as much information as a doctor with a patient who says, "My arm hurts." > > > > Although, if you would like, you can take two aspirin and call me in the > > morning.... (-: > > hey doc...ummm...well...you see...I got this problem...my ppp is hosed. > > ok...here are the bugs I've discovered: > > dialin and login, and, manually do a add 0 0 HISADDR > get disconnected, or manually disconnect > try it again. > > ppp gets angry when you try to add the route, says it's already > there...and it is...the right one, too, except it refuses to route any > packets. > > bug #2: > > get disconnected. dialin again > notice how sometimes you see a slew of # prompts and filenames scroll by > at random. notice that you're still at the login prompt (even though you > can't see it) about 75% of the time, and you can log in, but the above bug > is still present. worse...notice that 25% of the time you're actually AT > your root prompt. > > maybe it's just on my machine, but I don't like the fact that it's > happening...I'm going to look at my config, however, and change it to the > new format. > > -Jon > I just cvsuped from about a month ago and supprise. Looks like I've been bitten, too:-) I guess it's time to re RTFM. Although it seems strange. ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 00:32:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12431 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:32:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12417 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:32:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from junichi@astec.co.jp) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6W-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id RAA21359; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:32:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from tamtam.astec.co.jp (tamtam.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.60]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.6Wbeta5-astecMX2.4) with SMTP id RAA26856; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:32:24 +0900 (JST) Received: (from junichi@localhost) by tamtam.astec.co.jp (SMI-8.6/3.5W-astec-sol2.5) id RAA24379; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:32:21 +0900 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:32:21 +0900 Message-Id: <199803310832.RAA24379@tamtam.astec.co.jp> To: jeays@statcan.ca Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, junichi@astec.co.jp Subject: Re: ATAPI Zip drive In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:29:13 -0500 (EST). From: junichi@astec.co.jp (Satoh Junichi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.19] 1995-07/21(Fri) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I downloaded 2.2.6-RELEASE, and upgraded my 2.2.1 system with no > trouble - the /etc/fstab changes are handled very well. Everything > seems to work well, with the exception of my Iomega Zip 100MB ATAPI > drive. > > My second IDE controller has a CD-ROM as master, and the Zip drive > as slave. They are both detected at boot time,as below: ... > wfd0: medium type unknown (no disk) ## There WAS a disk in it! ## No problem. The wfd driver always says so when it found the ATAPI ZIP drive. I have to add code to probe ZIP correctly. (^^; #The wfd driver shows correct messages when it found the LS-120 drive. I have a ATAPI ZIP drive now. I'm adding some code for the ZIP drive to the wfd driver. After it, I'll feedback to FreeBSD. > When I attempt to mount either the CD-ROM or the ZIP drive, mount > hangs, and I have to interrupt it with ctrl-C. If I do this > a second time, the system crashes. (X stops. Attempts to > log on through another tty don't work - characters entered after > the login prompt just get echoed to the screen. It is big red > switch time!) Hmm... I don't know why. I'll test if the ZIP drive works well with a CD-ROM drive. Now, the ATAPI ZIP drive works with the wfd driver, but the driver may have some problems on ZIP support. > If I disconnect the CD-ROM and make the Zip drive the master, > things seems a tiny bit better. When I attempt a disklabel, I get: > > /home/mike% disklabel -r -w wfd0 auto > disklabel: /dev/rwfd0c: Undefined error: 0 > The light on the drive blinks once. It occurs when the ZIP disk has incorrect fdisk informatinos. You need to execute 'fdisk wfd0' and create the FreeBSD slice on the first time. > mount -t msdos /dev/wfd0 /mnt doesn't work either. Try 'mount -t msdos /dev/wfd0s4 /mnt'. ^^^^^^ --- Junichi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 05:22:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11458 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:22:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-32-96-43-135.atl.bellsouth.net [32.96.43.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11398 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:22:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA17836; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:22:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:21:02 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: Edwin Culp cc: Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) In-Reply-To: <352011EF.6AEE5C67@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Well, I did a bunch of stuff, and got it to work in auto mode...but there's ANOTHER bug with the routes... using this config (the basic "dunno his address, dunno mine, either"): set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 delete ALL add default HISADDR it fails to set the default route properly (it leaves it as 10.0.0.2), so I have to manually route change default x.x.x.x 0 every time. this is a MAJOR pain. it does the same with add 0 0 HISADDR (there's no difference in what the commands do, anyway). anyone have a workaround? -Jn On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Edwin Culp wrote: > Dexnation Holodream wrote: > > > > > Dexnation Holodream writes: > > > has anyone else experienced odd/unstable/buggy behavior with ppp? or > > > were there just some changes to it that would create bugs with old > > > config files? > > > > > > What do you mean by "odd/unstable/buggy"? There have been some changes > > > that may require you to modify config files, but so far, we have about > > > as much information as a doctor with a patient who says, "My arm hurts." > > > > > > Although, if you would like, you can take two aspirin and call me in the > > > morning.... (-: > > > > hey doc...ummm...well...you see...I got this problem...my ppp is hosed. > > > > ok...here are the bugs I've discovered: > > > > dialin and login, and, manually do a add 0 0 HISADDR > > get disconnected, or manually disconnect > > try it again. > > > > ppp gets angry when you try to add the route, says it's already > > there...and it is...the right one, too, except it refuses to route any > > packets. > > > > bug #2: > > > > get disconnected. dialin again > > notice how sometimes you see a slew of # prompts and filenames scroll by > > at random. notice that you're still at the login prompt (even though you > > can't see it) about 75% of the time, and you can log in, but the above bug > > is still present. worse...notice that 25% of the time you're actually AT > > your root prompt. > > > > maybe it's just on my machine, but I don't like the fact that it's > > happening...I'm going to look at my config, however, and change it to the > > new format. > > > > -Jon > > > I just cvsuped from about a month ago and supprise. > Looks like I've been bitten, too:-) I guess it's time to re RTFM. > Although it > seems strange. > > ed > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 05:47:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15014 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:47:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver1-30.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14562 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:45:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (telmex@ppp-6.mexcom.net [206.103.65.198]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA20778; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:42:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3520F419.6572AE58@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:48:09 -0600 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.A. de C.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dexnation Holodream CC: Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Dexnation Holodream wrote: > > Well, I did a bunch of stuff, and got it to work in auto mode...but > there's ANOTHER bug with the routes... > > using this config (the basic "dunno his address, dunno mine, either"): > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 > delete ALL > add default HISADDR > > it fails to set the default route properly (it leaves it as 10.0.0.2), so > I have to manually route change default x.x.x.x 0 every time. this is a > MAJOR pain. it does the same with add 0 0 HISADDR (there's no difference > in what the commands do, anyway). > > anyone have a workaround? What I did was put the set ifaddr in the ppp.conf as in the conf.sample and it's working with cvsup from yesterday ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 06:00:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16289 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:00:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-32-96-43-215.atl.bellsouth.net [32.96.43.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16284 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA18194; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:00:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:00:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: Edwin Culp cc: Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3520F419.6572AE58@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I used the one from the sample, too. For some odd reason it's still not working, though but it works if I do it manually...it's very strange. -Jon On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Edwin Culp wrote: > Dexnation Holodream wrote: > > > > Well, I did a bunch of stuff, and got it to work in auto mode...but > > there's ANOTHER bug with the routes... > > > > using this config (the basic "dunno his address, dunno mine, either"): > > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 > > delete ALL > > add default HISADDR > > > > it fails to set the default route properly (it leaves it as 10.0.0.2), so > > I have to manually route change default x.x.x.x 0 every time. this is a > > MAJOR pain. it does the same with add 0 0 HISADDR (there's no difference > > in what the commands do, anyway). > > > > anyone have a workaround? > What I did was put the set ifaddr in the ppp.conf as in the conf.sample > and it's working with cvsup from yesterday > > ed > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 06:12:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17637 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-32-96-42-191.atl.bellsouth.net [32.96.42.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17565 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA18422; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:10:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:10:42 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: Edwin Culp cc: Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I also looked through the code and tried a few things, to no avail. I gave it a dest ip, and set it to /16, and it still did the same thing, leaving it set as the ip from that field...in this case I got a terminal server with an ip address that was x.x.x.142 instead of the x.x.x.141 I had put in the config, and it still didn't work...here's the full script: hellsouth: set phone 4042483900|7703008900 set login "TIMEOUT 15 name:--name: fake_user word: fake_pass" set timeout 120 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 205.152.3.141/16 255.255.255.0 delete ALL add default HISADDR On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Dexnation Holodream wrote: > I used the one from the sample, too. > > For some odd reason it's still not working, though > > but it works if I do it manually...it's very strange. > > -Jon > > On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Edwin Culp wrote: > > > Dexnation Holodream wrote: > > > > > > Well, I did a bunch of stuff, and got it to work in auto mode...but > > > there's ANOTHER bug with the routes... > > > > > > using this config (the basic "dunno his address, dunno mine, either"): > > > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 > > > delete ALL > > > add default HISADDR > > > > > > it fails to set the default route properly (it leaves it as 10.0.0.2), so > > > I have to manually route change default x.x.x.x 0 every time. this is a > > > MAJOR pain. it does the same with add 0 0 HISADDR (there's no difference > > > in what the commands do, anyway). > > > > > > anyone have a workaround? > > What I did was put the set ifaddr in the ppp.conf as in the conf.sample > > and it's working with cvsup from yesterday > > > > ed > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 06:50:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26871 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:50:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver1-30.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26573 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:49:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from sunix (telmex@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA04048; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:45:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <352101ED.4F04505@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:47:09 -0600 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dexnation Holodream CC: Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: References: <199803311431.IAA00971@ns.mexcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I'm sending you mine, including the default section to see if there is a difference. I start it with ppp -ddial -proxy telmex. Suerte y provecho, ed > > default: > set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier LCP IPCP CCP tun command > set device /dev/cuaa0 > set speed 115200 > disable lqr > deny lqr > set ctsrts on > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 10 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > > telmex: > set phone 890222 > set mtu 814 > set login "TIMEOUT 45 ame:-\\r-ame: monopolio word: adivina_quien uninet> ppp" > set timeout 120 > set redial 30 5000 > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > delete ALL > add 0 0 HISADDR The automatic asignation of both my ip and the default work fine :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 06:58:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28349 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28342 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:58:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA26168 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:57:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199803311457.IAA26168@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: stuck console Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:57:47 -0600 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On exit from X last night my vty console did not recover. Normally I login via vty0 and launch startx. Am running the XF86_Mach64 server. Today, I telent'ed in from another system and launched startx. So for now I'm functioning without having to reboot. Alt-F[1-4] do nothing. The Scroll Lock key does nothing. Any way to reset the text console? PeeCee: {1003} uptime 8:53AM up 53 days, 22 hrs, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 PeeCee: {1004} uname -a FreeBSD PeeCee.tbe.com 2.2.5-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Thu Feb 5 09:24:45 CST 1998 root@PeeCee.tbe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PEECEE i386 PeeCee: {1005} Would like to continue my 53 day streak (not really unusual) if possible. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 07:00:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28647 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-32-96-43-215.atl.bellsouth.net [32.96.43.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28600 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA18807; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:59:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:59:40 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: Edwin Culp cc: Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <352101ED.4F04505@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk it's still not working :( for some reason it refuses to change the default route oh, well...gotta figure it out some more ;P~ -Jon On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Edwin Culp wrote: > I'm sending you mine, including the default section to see if there is > a difference. I start it with ppp -ddial -proxy telmex. > > Suerte y provecho, > > ed > > > > default: > > set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier LCP IPCP CCP tun command > > set device /dev/cuaa0 > > set speed 115200 > > disable lqr > > deny lqr > > set ctsrts on > > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 10 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > > > > telmex: > > set phone 890222 > > set mtu 814 > > set login "TIMEOUT 45 ame:-\\r-ame: monopolio word: adivina_quien uninet> ppp" > > set timeout 120 > > set redial 30 5000 > > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > > delete ALL > > add 0 0 HISADDR > The automatic asignation of both my ip and the default work fine :-) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 07:26:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02905 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:26:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bigbrother (bigbrother.rstcorp.com [206.29.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA02898 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:26:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bigbrother (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA03436; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:15:31 -0500 Received: from fault.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.18) by bigbrother.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003432; Tue, 31 Mar 98 11:14:56 -0500 Received: (from vshah@localhost) by rstcorp.com (8.8.1/8.8.1) id KAA02541; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:24:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:24:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803311524.KAA02541@rstcorp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Viren R. Shah" To: Dexnation Holodream Cc: Edwin Culp , Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: <352011EF.6AEE5C67@ver1.telmex.net.mx> X-Mailer: VM 6.40 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Dexnation" == Dexnation Holodream writes: Dexnation> Well, I did a bunch of stuff, and got it to work in auto Dexnation> mode...but there's ANOTHER bug with the routes... Dexnation> using this config (the basic "dunno his address, dunno Dexnation> mine, either"): Dexnation> set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 Dexnation> delete ALL Dexnation> add default HISADDR Dexnation> anyone have a workaround? Running 2.2.6, mine works, when I do this in ppp.linkup instead of ppp.conf. It still gives me a "Warning" sometimes, but the routes get added correctly. Viren -- "Endure pain, find joy, and make your own meaning, because the universe certainly isn't going to supply it. Always be a moving target. Live. Live. Live." -- Cordelia Vorkosigan to the just born Miles (Lois McMaster Bujold, Barrayar) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 07:36:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04466 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:36:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-32-96-43-215.atl.bellsouth.net [32.96.43.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04427 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:35:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA19142; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:34:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:34:54 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: David Kelly cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stuck console In-Reply-To: <199803311457.IAA26168@PeeCee.tbe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk did you try CTRL-ALT [1-4]??? that's what I always have to use. -Jon On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, David Kelly wrote: > On exit from X last night my vty console did not recover. Normally I login > via vty0 and launch startx. Am running the XF86_Mach64 server. > > Today, I telent'ed in from another system and launched startx. So for now > I'm functioning without having to reboot. Alt-F[1-4] do nothing. The > Scroll Lock key does nothing. Any way to reset the text console? > > PeeCee: {1003} uptime > 8:53AM up 53 days, 22 hrs, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 > PeeCee: {1004} uname -a > FreeBSD PeeCee.tbe.com 2.2.5-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Thu Feb 5 09:24:45 CST 1998 root@PeeCee.tbe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PEECEE i386 > PeeCee: {1005} > > Would like to continue my 53 day streak (not really unusual) if possible. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 07:48:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06059 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:48:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06045 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:48:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp id AA13348; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:47:38 +0900 Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id AAA23553; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:56:03 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199803311556.AAA23553@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: David Kelly Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: stuck console In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:57:47 CST." <199803311457.IAA26168@PeeCee.tbe.com> References: <199803311457.IAA26168@PeeCee.tbe.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 00:56:02 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >On exit from X last night my vty console did not recover. What did it look? A blank screen? Garbage? >Normally I login >via vty0 and launch startx. Am running the XF86_Mach64 server. Which version of XFree86 are you running? Did the X server actually stop? Or, was it hanging the console? >Today, I telent'ed in from another system and launched startx. Did it start the X server successfully? >So for now >I'm functioning without having to reboot. Alt-F[1-4] do nothing. The >Scroll Lock key does nothing. If you are in the X session, you should be using Ctl-Alt-F[1-4] :-) >Any way to reset the text console? I am afraid there is no way ;-( >Would like to continue my 53 day streak (not really unusual) if possible. Sorry, I can be of little help... Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 07:56:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08487 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:56:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08474 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:56:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00331; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:55:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199803311555.JAA00331@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dexnation Holodream cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stuck console In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:34:54 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:55:20 -0600 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Dexnation Holodream writes: > did you try CTRL-ALT [1-4]??? > > that's what I always have to use. Only when in X. Alt-F[1-4] beeps at the console. Add a Ctrl to that and still get the beep. Guess the problem is moot now as I was pounding key sequences and didn't think before pounding Ctrl-Alt-Delete. System politely shutdown and rebooted just like it was supposed to. Maybe it wasn't apparent in my posting that I had a text display, the X display was gone. Was able to startx via telnet from another system. Forgot to add before, used "ps -aux" to scan all the processes guessing somebody still had control of the console. Found nothing. Altho it *shouldn't* have mattered because I couldn't get to any of my (3) getty's running on vty's (yes, a getty was running on the console I used to startx, as I had logged off it). "killall getty" respawned the vty getty's and didn't help. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 08:15:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12268 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:15:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.34.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12263 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:15:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thimm@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de) Received: from oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.33.83]) by axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA32335; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:15:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thimm@localhost) by oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.7.1) id SAA13619; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:15:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Axel Thimm Message-Id: <199803311615.SAA13619@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de> Subject: Upgrading /stand To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:15:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de (Axel Thimm) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk How does one upgrade /stand? I am aware of the nice make world tutorial, and I am also happily making worlds with /etc and /dev updating, but I have no clue of how to deal with /stand stuff. I am especially interested in sysinstall, which should have been modified for the changed slice code. I don't dare touch my old sysinstall. I thought of downloading a boot floppy and copying /stand of it, but this can't be the truth, can it? I hope there is some magic make syntax I could use (like for the /etc stuff), other than "make release". If there is indeed, than it should be taken into the tutorial, if not, maybe it should be introduced (?) [but I still would like to know what to do until then]. Thanks, Axel. -- Axel Thimm Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de Axel.Thimm@ifh.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 08:22:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13311 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:22:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13296 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00473; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:21:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199803311621.KAA00473@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stuck console In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Apr 1998 00:56:02 +0900." <199803311556.AAA23553@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:21:13 -0600 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Kazutaka YOKOTA writes: > > >On exit from X last night my vty console did not recover. > > What did it look? A blank screen? Garbage? The text output by the Mach64 X server on startup via startx was still on the console screen. > >Normally I login > >via vty0 and launch startx. Am running the XF86_Mach64 server. > > Which version of XFree86 are you running? Did the X server > actually stop? Or, was it hanging the console? 3.3.1. The X server was no longer running. Something was hanging the console, I couldn't find it. Looking at the text I would guess the problem happened Monday morning when I first launched startx, and didn't happen last night when I exited. I use an alias to startx: PeeCee: {1002} alias Startx startx & ; sleep 60 ; exit PeeCee: {1003} The login prompt never made it on the vty, altho a getty was running. > >Today, I telent'ed in from another system and launched startx. > > Did it start the X server successfully? Yup. Fired up exmh and posted the first message in this thread. > >So for now > >I'm functioning without having to reboot. Alt-F[1-4] do nothing. The > >Scroll Lock key does nothing. > > If you are in the X session, you should be using Ctl-Alt-F[1-4] :-) I wasn't too clear. Alt-F[1-4] did nothing when I had a text display. Ctrl didn't help either. After starting X from a remote telnet session (onto my problem console) that X session worked perfectly fine, altho inability to Ctrl-Alt-F1 sorta makes sense as the system console was not the parent of the X session. If you missed my other message, accidentally typed "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" before remembering what that ment. Put the problem to rest. Had to appologize to a couple of Samba and AFP users who were connected at the time. :-( Thanks for trying. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 08:22:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13406 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:22:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-32-96-43-215.atl.bellsouth.net [32.96.43.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13398 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA19703; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:21:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:21:48 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: David Kelly cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stuck console In-Reply-To: <199803311555.JAA00331@PeeCee.tbe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ok...you need to send init a HUP...that should fix it. -Jon On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, David Kelly wrote: > Dexnation Holodream writes: > > did you try CTRL-ALT [1-4]??? > > > > that's what I always have to use. > > Only when in X. Alt-F[1-4] beeps at the console. Add a Ctrl to that and > still get the beep. Guess the problem is moot now as I was pounding key > sequences and didn't think before pounding Ctrl-Alt-Delete. System > politely shutdown and rebooted just like it was supposed to. > > Maybe it wasn't apparent in my posting that I had a text display, the X > display was gone. Was able to startx via telnet from another system. > > Forgot to add before, used "ps -aux" to scan all the processes guessing > somebody still had control of the console. Found nothing. Altho it > *shouldn't* have mattered because I couldn't get to any of my (3) getty's > running on vty's (yes, a getty was running on the console I used to > startx, as I had logged off it). "killall getty" respawned the vty getty's > and didn't help. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 08:37:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16291 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16192 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:36:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01046; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:36:28 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA08944; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:36:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980331173611.47585@iii.co.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:36:11 +0100 To: Axel Thimm Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel Thimm Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand References: <199803311615.SAA13619@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <199803311615.SAA13619@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de>; from Axel Thimm on Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 06:15:21PM +0200 Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 06:15:21PM +0200, Axel Thimm wrote: > How does one upgrade /stand? > I hope there is some magic make syntax I could use (like for the /etc stuff), > other than "make release". As far as I'm aware, 'make release' is all there is. And that doesn't upgrade /stand, but creates the appropriate files elsewhere for you to copy in as appropriate (ICBW). A quick grovel through /usr/src/release/Makefile should indicate the scale of the task at hand. N -- Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 08:46:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17857 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:46:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17831 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:46:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00460; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:38:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803311638.IAA00460@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: junichi@astec.co.jp (Satoh Junichi) cc: jeays@statcan.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATAPI Zip drive In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:32:21 +0900." <199803310832.RAA24379@tamtam.astec.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:38:40 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > wfd0: medium type unknown (no disk) ## There WAS a disk in it! ## > > No problem. The wfd driver always says so when it found the ATAPI ZIP > drive. I have to add code to probe ZIP correctly. (^^; The problem here is that the Zip is fairly unhelpful when it comes to telling you what's in the drive. In this case, the message should probably not be printed. > > When I attempt to mount either the CD-ROM or the ZIP drive, mount > > hangs, and I have to interrupt it with ctrl-C. If I do this > > a second time, the system crashes. (X stops. Attempts to > > log on through another tty don't work - characters entered after > > the login prompt just get echoed to the screen. It is big red > > switch time!) > > Hmm... I don't know why. > I'll test if the ZIP drive works well with a CD-ROM drive. The problem is that the ATAPI Zip drive doesn't coexist well with our ATAPI code and a CDROM. The Zip has highlighted a number of problems with the way we do ATAPI, and this is one of them. You can try moving the Zip and CDROM to separate IDE channels, which should cure your problem. > > If I disconnect the CD-ROM and make the Zip drive the master, > > things seems a tiny bit better. When I attempt a disklabel, I get: > > > > /home/mike% disklabel -r -w wfd0 auto > > disklabel: /dev/rwfd0c: Undefined error: 0 > > The light on the drive blinks once. > It occurs when the ZIP disk has incorrect fdisk informatinos. > You need to execute 'fdisk wfd0' and create the FreeBSD slice on the > first time. You can do this another way: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/wfd0 count=16 # disklabel -rwB wfd0 auto # disklabel -e wfd0 -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 08:55:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19877 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:55:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pc-algier-p.dgms.com (pc-algier-p.dgms.com [206.67.30.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19849 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gaa@dgms.com) Received: from dgms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc-algier-p.dgms.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02661 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:55:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gaa@dgms.com) Message-ID: <35211FF9.5C388742@dgms.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:55:21 -0500 From: Gary Algier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Real release tag References: <199803311615.SAA13619@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de> <19980331173611.47585@iii.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Ok, I got all the sources via cvsup (I get the cvs files) and I did a "cvs -r RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE src doc lkm ports". All I got was the "src" directory. After poking around in the other repositories I notice that "doc" and "ports" are tagged "RELEASE_2_2_6" and "lkm" is not tagged at all. Will the real release 2.2.6 tag please stand up? -- Gary Algier, WB2FWZ gary.algier@srtc.com +1 609 608 2758 DGM&S Telecom, 1025 Briggs Rd, Mt. Laurel, NJ 08054 Fax:+1 609 866 8850 Paul Petzoldt on the renaming of Mount Washington: "I Call it the New England Booby Trap. We see Ph.D.'s from private schools taking kids up there in shorts. People die like flies up there!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 09:03:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21516 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:03:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21489 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca36-50.ix.netcom.com [207.93.42.242]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26924; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA17816; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:02:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:02:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803311702.JAA17816@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: gaa@dgms.com CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <35211FF9.5C388742@dgms.com> (message from Gary Algier on Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:55:21 -0500) Subject: Re: Real release tag From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * Ok, I got all the sources via cvsup (I get the cvs files) and I did * a "cvs -r RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE src doc lkm ports". All I got was * the "src" directory. After poking around in the other repositories * I notice that "doc" and "ports" are tagged "RELEASE_2_2_6" and "lkm" * is not tagged at all. Will the real release 2.2.6 tag please stand * up? The "doc" and "ports" trees don't have the RELENG_2_2 branch, so their tags reflect that and are named differently (as you noted). I have no idea where you found the "lkm" tree but the one I know is under "src" and is indeed tagged RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE. Shouldn't this be somewhere in the handbook? Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 09:15:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23593 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:15:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23577 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA15219; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:15:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:15:31 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Nate Williams cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-Reply-To: <199803301937.MAA07704@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Nate Williams wrote: > > Sure it does. There is a well established historical precedent > > of supplying MAKEDEV with the name and unit of a disk-like > > device, either physical or logical, to create partitions a-h > > logically contained within that device. Maybe I'm just whacked, > > but a slice sure seems like a disk-like device to me. > > But it's not. The 'historical precedence' changed at FreeBSD 2.0, so > I'd say there's a long historical precedence for *NOT* behaving this > way. :) Hmm... Just pulled out a FreeBSD 1.1 CDROM and a "MAKEDEV sd1" makes all partions a-h under sd1. I think my historical precedence point remains intact. Or at least the point I had in mind does; you may well have read something slightly different--I make no claims as to the clarity of my prose. > > MAKEDEV sd1 creates sd1[a-h]. A well established behavior. > > I would argue that it shouldn't now. It should only create the > partitions if you give it: > > MAKEDEV sd1a I won't disagree here at all, I'd just like to see a bit of consistency and documentation. Which way it goes, I really don't care. I'll even contribute some patches if I get a chance. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 09:18:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24361 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24347 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:18:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA06498; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:18:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA11305; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:17:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:17:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199803311717.KAA11305@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Fieber Cc: Nate Williams , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <199803301937.MAA07704@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > Sure it does. There is a well established historical precedent > > > of supplying MAKEDEV with the name and unit of a disk-like > > > device, either physical or logical, to create partitions a-h > > > logically contained within that device. Maybe I'm just whacked, > > > but a slice sure seems like a disk-like device to me. > > > > But it's not. The 'historical precedence' changed at FreeBSD 2.0, so > > I'd say there's a long historical precedence for *NOT* behaving this > > way. :) > > Hmm... Just pulled out a FreeBSD 1.1 CDROM FreeBSD 1.1 is not an issue, since there were no slices then. You must start when slices we're introduced, because all of the device name changes then. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 09:31:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29142 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29026 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:30:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA15588; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:30:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:30:02 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Nate Williams cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade In-Reply-To: <199803311717.KAA11305@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > Sure it does. There is a well established historical precedent > > > > of supplying MAKEDEV with the name and unit of a disk-like > > > > device, either physical or logical, to create partitions a-h > > > > logically contained within that device. Maybe I'm just whacked, > > > > but a slice sure seems like a disk-like device to me. > > > > > > But it's not. The 'historical precedence' changed at FreeBSD 2.0, so > > > I'd say there's a long historical precedence for *NOT* behaving this > > > way. :) > > > > Hmm... Just pulled out a FreeBSD 1.1 CDROM > > FreeBSD 1.1 is not an issue, since there were no slices then. You must > start when slices we're introduced, because all of the device name > changes then. Aye, but my historical precedence point was that ever since I can remember, partitions within a disk-like device are created automatically by passing just the device and unit to MAKEDEV. To this day this is the behavior for basically all devices *except* slices--look at cd, fd, ccd, and vn for instance. The historical precedent has nothing to do with slices--it predates slices. Now we have slices and the historical behavior of automatically making partitions continues with "MAKEDEV sd1" which makes sd1[a-h], along with the slice entries. *If* that is the desired behavior, then it follows that "MAKEDEV sd1s1" should make sd1s1[a-h], the partitions within the slice. Note that this does *not* mean that "MAKEDEV sd1" makes all partitions within slices. Arguments against this behavior are reasonable. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 12:09:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09003 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from techpower.net (hometeam@techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08996 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:09:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16641 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:08:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:08:06 -0500 (EST) From: Jt To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: drivers sio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk anyone seeing buffer overflows in sio driver in 2.2.6 /kernel: sio1: 4 more interrupt-level buffer overflows (total 4) DIAGNOSTICS: sio%d: interrupt-level buffer overflow. Problem in the bottom half of the driver. would rebuilding the driver help? hometeam@techpower.net --We cannot all be masters, nor all masters Cannot be truly follow'd-- -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 owEBqwBU/4kAlQMFADRCxNWhsddKSTR+6QEBelED/jzeC3btZfqSdIfrNoCgwUJJ iNQ33UQoMyJ2ygkfl72xP5J79yml/F4P73GnNaDVbaMOmOG2NNAi5ElE73wRh54U 17kH+n5XnYeqekV8T2TG2Q6ex3UotXPyZ1vvrCrSxapOz6a4hh0GQeA55rcwLy2W ROHwxfvaVsrX5iVOkRoerBFiC21lc3NhZ2UudHh0AAAAAA== =jCvF -----END PGP MESSAGE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 12:46:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18805 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:46:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18713 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05085; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:43:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Axel Thimm cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de (Axel Thimm) Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:15:21 +0200." <199803311615.SAA13619@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:43:41 -0800 Message-ID: <5082.891377021@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > worlds with /etc and /dev updating, but I have no clue of how to deal with > /stand stuff. I am especially interested in sysinstall, which should have bee cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 13:00:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20176 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20159 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.8/8.7.3) id XAA05658; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:58:19 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:58:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199803312058.XAA05658@silver.sms.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Axel Thimm , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de (Axel Thimm) Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand In-Reply-To: <5082.891377021@time.cdrom.com> References: <199803311615.SAA13619@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de> <5082.891377021@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > worlds with /etc and /dev updating, but I have no clue of how to deal with > > /stand stuff. I am especially interested in sysinstall, which should have bee > > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install > How about the other stuff in /stand? Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 13:21:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26131 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:21:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mikage.t-cnet.or.jp (ns.mikage.t-cnet.or.jp [210.169.187.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26052 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:21:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from issei@mikage.t-cnet.or.jp) Received: from localhost (fs.mikage.t-cnet.or.jp [210.169.187.131]) by ns.mikage.t-cnet.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) with ESMTP id GAA19519 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:22:06 +0900 (JST) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:43:41 -0800" <5082.891377021@time.cdrom.com> References: <5082.891377021@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) X-Prom-Mew: Prom-Mew 1.92.9 (procmail reader for Mew) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 29 5E 86 48 44 CC 38 9C 72 82 D5 83 B6 FD 03 B1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980401062127J.issei@mikage.t-cnet.or.jp> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 06:21:27 +0900 From: Issei Suzuki X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In mail "Re: Upgrading /stand " "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install You shoud rewrite /usr/src/release/version.h or somethis does not work well (eg. [Configure][Packages]). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 13:45:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03780 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:45:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03697 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:45:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01296; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:16:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803312116.NAA01296@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Petri Helenius cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Axel Thimm , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de (Axel Thimm) Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:58:19 +0300." <199803312058.XAA05658@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:16:17 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > > worlds with /etc and /dev updating, but I have no clue of how to deal with > > > /stand stuff. I am especially interested in sysinstall, which should have bee > > > > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install > > > How about the other stuff in /stand? Like what? There's nothing else interesting in there - in fact, there shouldn't be anything else there (though there is). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 14:02:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06691 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:02:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06587 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:01:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05629; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:57:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Petri Helenius cc: Axel Thimm , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de (Axel Thimm) Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:58:19 +0300." <199803312058.XAA05658@silver.sms.fi> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:57:15 -0800 Message-ID: <5626.891381435@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > How about the other stuff in /stand? There's nothing else in /stand that you need after installation. Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 15:16:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21387 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21334 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from softweyr@xmission.xmission.com) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) id QAA10711; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:15:50 -0700 (MST) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199803312315.QAA10711@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: PPP's unstable behavior (fwd) To: viren@rstcorp.com Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:15:50 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803311524.KAA02541@rstcorp.com> from "Viren R. Shah" at Mar 31, 98 10:24:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > >>>>> "Dexnation" == Dexnation Holodream writes: > > Dexnation> Well, I did a bunch of stuff, and got it to work in auto > Dexnation> mode...but there's ANOTHER bug with the routes... > Dexnation> using this config (the basic "dunno his address, dunno > Dexnation> mine, either"): > Dexnation> set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 > Dexnation> delete ALL > Dexnation> add default HISADDR > > Dexnation> anyone have a workaround? > Viren Shah replied: > Running 2.2.6, mine works, when I do this in ppp.linkup instead of > ppp.conf. > It still gives me a "Warning" sometimes, but the routes get added > correctly. The commdands in the config file are only executed once, when you first bring up ppp. If you need to change the route each time you connect, you'll need to configure ppp.linkup *also*. The commands in ppp.linkup are executed *each time you connect*. I've directed replies to the questions list, as this discussion no longer has anything to do with STABLE. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 16:57:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07110 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:57:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07099 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:57:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from solist. (solist.partitur.se [193.219.246.204]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA15576 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:57:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from partitur.se by solist. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA13667; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:57:20 +0200 Message-ID: <352190F0.B5589517@partitur.se> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 02:57:20 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.6; buildworld with -O3, groff fails... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi! I tried a 'make clean buildworld' on a newly cvsup'd 2.2.6-stable with /etc/make.conf's CFLAGS set to -O3 -pipe -m486 groff fails to compile, and gcc dumped core possibly with error 6?. (I talked to my girlfriend over the phone, and she told me this by reading the screen, so I can't be more specific. I can give you more details when I get home.) The machine worked for about 10 hours (yep, it's a slow bastard; that's why I'm trying optimization :-) until it came to a halt this way. Also, I'd like to know if there's any point in optimization more than 1? Will it be any faster? Will -O3 just eat memory, or will it do any good? Has anybody done any test on the subject on the FreeBSD source tree? I realize it depends on the hardware; this is a cyrix 5x86; 100MHz; 64Mb and a few gigs on two IDE hd's. Performance has been very poor, especially with X & KDE. Staring Netscape takes at least a minute... :( Hoping to gain some speed this way... Regards, Palle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 31 19:42:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00353 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [208.141.2.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00190 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:41:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmartin@calumet.infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23432; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:41:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199804010341.WAA23432@calumet.infoteam.com> From: "Kenn Martin" To: "stable@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:41:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Kenn Martin" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.00.1500) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 2.2.6; buildworld with -O3, groff fails... Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 01 Apr 1998 02:57:20 +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: >I tried a 'make clean buildworld' on a newly cvsup'd 2.2.6-stable with >/etc/make.conf's CFLAGS set to -O3 -pipe -m486 > >groff fails to compile, and gcc dumped core possibly with error 6?. (I >talked to my girlfriend over the phone, and she told me this by reading >the screen, so I can't be more specific. I can give you more details Same here. Tried -O2 and everything _seems_ OK; haven't done an installworld yet. This is on a PentiumPro 200, 128MB RAM. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 01:41:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23564 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23537 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:41:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10027; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:36:22 +1000 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:36:22 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199804010936.TAA10027@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: jfieber@indiana.edu, nate@mt.sri.com Subject: Re: More on 2.2.6 upgrade Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >Aye, but my historical precedence point was that ever since I can >remember, partitions within a disk-like device are created >automatically by passing just the device and unit to MAKEDEV. To >this day this is the behavior for basically all devices *except* >slices--look at cd, fd, ccd, and vn for instance. ... That's because cd, fd, ccd, matcd, mcd, scd and wcd are broken :-). vn is handled like the other sliced devices. Partitions are created for the compatibility slice and the fd, ccd and foocd devices because historically the "whole disk" device is just a partition (the C partition, except on the tahoe it is the A partition and under 386BSD and related systems it is the D partition). Floppies and cd's have evil aliases for the A and C partitions for compatibility. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 04:29:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17724 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:29:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stcgate.statcan.ca (stcgate.statcan.ca [142.206.192.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA17696 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:29:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeays@statcan.ca) Received: (from root@localhost) by stcgate.statcan.ca (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA02025; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:33:25 -0500 Received: from stcinet.statcan.ca(142.206.128.146) by stcgate via smap (V1.3) id sma002013; Wed Apr 1 12:33:13 1998 Received: from statcan.ca by statcan.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA19246; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:31:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:28:50 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Jeays X-Sender: jeays@austral To: Mike Smith cc: Satoh Junichi , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATAPI Zip drive In-Reply-To: <199803311638.IAA00460@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > wfd0: medium type unknown (no disk) ## There WAS a disk in it! ## > > > > No problem. The wfd driver always says so when it found the ATAPI ZIP > > drive. I have to add code to probe ZIP correctly. (^^; > > The problem here is that the Zip is fairly unhelpful when it comes to > telling you what's in the drive. In this case, the message should > probably not be printed. > > > > When I attempt to mount either the CD-ROM or the ZIP drive, mount > > > hangs, and I have to interrupt it with ctrl-C. If I do this > > > a second time, the system crashes. (X stops. Attempts to > > > log on through another tty don't work - characters entered after > > > the login prompt just get echoed to the screen. It is big red > > > switch time!) > > > > Hmm... I don't know why. > > I'll test if the ZIP drive works well with a CD-ROM drive. > > The problem is that the ATAPI Zip drive doesn't coexist well with our > ATAPI code and a CDROM. The Zip has highlighted a number of problems > with the way we do ATAPI, and this is one of them. > > You can try moving the Zip and CDROM to separate IDE channels, which > should cure your problem. > > > > If I disconnect the CD-ROM and make the Zip drive the master, > > > things seems a tiny bit better. When I attempt a disklabel, I get: > > > > > > /home/mike% disklabel -r -w wfd0 auto > > > disklabel: /dev/rwfd0c: Undefined error: 0 > > > The light on the drive blinks once. > > It occurs when the ZIP disk has incorrect fdisk informatinos. > > You need to execute 'fdisk wfd0' and create the FreeBSD slice on the > > first time. > > You can do this another way: > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/wfd0 count=16 > # disklabel -rwB wfd0 auto > # disklabel -e wfd0 > > Thanks for the various suggestions, to Mike Smith, Satoh Junichi and John Saunders. I can now mount msdos file systems with mount -t msdos /dev/wfd0s4 /mnt successfully (with the CD-ROM disconnected of course). I had less success making a FreeBSD file system, probably due to lack of experience with fdisk and disklabel. Information from DOS bootblock is now: 1: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 180000 (87 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 1/ sector 0/ head 0; end: cyl 32/ sector 0/ head 0 2: 3: 4: /home/mike% dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/wfd0 count=16 16+0 records in 16+0 records out 8192 bytes transferred in 0.146601 secs (55880 bytes/sec) /home/mike% disklabel -rw wfd0 auto /home/mike% newfs wfd0 newfs: wfd0: `0' partition is unavailable /home/mike% newfs wfd0s1 newfs: /dev/rwfd0s1: Device not configured /home/mike% disklabel -r wfd0 # /dev/rwfd0c: type: unknown disk: label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 96 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 6144 cylinders: 32 sectors/unit: 196608 rpm: 720 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 196608 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 31) /home/mike% disklabel -e wfd0 couldn't open "/tmp/EdDk.aNj3602": no such file or directory There is no /usr/mdec/wfdboot on my system, and I did install all the distributions under 2.2.6-RELEASE. I don't think I need it, as I don't intend to boot from these disks. Correct values of the various parameters would be a great help, please, such as a good copy of an /etc/disktab entry. I don't know the correct values for sectors/track, tracks/cylinder and total cylinders. ---------------------------------------------------------------- As a second question; I currently have a dual boot setup, with Win95 on wd0s1, and freebsd on wd1s1. If I move the FreeBSD disk to the second controller to make room for the CD-ROM on the first, what do I need to do to adjust the dual-boot configuration? I am a bit nervous about taking this step! Thnaks once more for all the help. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 05:31:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25980 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:31:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dpi.dgtu.donetsk.ua (root@dipt-38.4K-dgtu-gw.dgtu.donetsk.ua [194.44.183.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25954 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:31:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yk@info.dgtu.donetsk.ua) Received: from info.dgtu.donetsk.ua (root@info.dgtu.donetsk.ua [194.44.183.7]) by dpi.dgtu.donetsk.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA24546 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:29:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from yk@localhost) by info.dgtu.donetsk.ua (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA19538 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:29:15 +0300 (EET DST) From: Yury Yaroshevsky Message-Id: <199804011329.QAA19538@info.dgtu.donetsk.ua> Subject: Why??? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:29:15 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk See log for 'make installworld' [... skip ...] ===> share/syscons ===> share/syscons/fonts install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 cp437-8x8.fnt cp437-8x14.fnt cp437-8x16.fnt cp4 37-thin-8x8.fnt cp437-thin-8x16.fnt cp850-8x8.fnt cp850-8x14.fnt cp850-8x16.fnt cp850-thin-8x8.fnt cp850-thin-8x16.fnt cp865-8x8.fnt cp865-8x14.fnt cp865-8x1 6.fnt cp865-thin-8x8.fnt cp865-thin-8x16.fnt cp866-8x8.fnt cp866-8x14.fnt cp86 6-8x16.fnt cp866b-8x16.fnt cp866c-8x16.fnt iso-8x8.fnt iso-8x14.fnt iso-8x16.f nt iso02-8x8.fnt iso02-8x14.fnt iso02-8x16.fnt iso-thin-8x16.fnt iso-8859-2-8 x16.fnt koi8-r-8x8.fnt koi8-r-8x14.fnt koi8-r-8x16.fnt koi8-rb-8x16.fnt koi8-r c-8x16.fnt INDEX.fonts /usr/share/syscons/fonts install: cp437-8x8.fnt: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 See list of files in /usr/src/share/syscons/fonts total 171 drwxr-xr-x 2 root bin 1024 26 ÍÁÒ 20:27 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 512 2 ÄÅË 21:46 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 7049 26 ÍÁÒ 20:27 INDEX.fonts -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 835 26 ÍÁÒ 20:27 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 4967 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-8x14.fnt -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 5675 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-8x16.fnt -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 2850 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-8x8.fnt ^^^^^^^^^^^ File is present !!! Why abort 'make installworld' ??? -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 5680 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-thin-8x16.fnt -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 2855 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-thin-8x8.fnt [skip] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 05:53:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29539 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:53:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from athena.bfmni.com (www.bfmni.com [206.172.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29524 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:53:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsmith@bfmni.com) Received: from whatzit ([206.172.20.164]) by athena.bfmni.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-30094U35) with SMTP id AAA173; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:53:38 -0500 Message-ID: <000601bd5d74$d0852c60$6403a8c0@whatzit.comstyle.com> From: bsmith@bfmni.com (Brad Smith) To: "Yury Yaroshevsky" , Subject: Re: Why??? Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:48:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I had the EXACT same thing happen to me too. >See log for 'make installworld' > >[... skip ...] >===> share/syscons >===> share/syscons/fonts >install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 cp437-8x8.fnt cp437-8x14.fnt cp437-8x16.fnt cp4 >37-thin-8x8.fnt cp437-thin-8x16.fnt cp850-8x8.fnt cp850-8x14.fnt cp850-8x16.fnt > cp850-thin-8x8.fnt cp850-thin-8x16.fnt cp865-8x8.fnt cp865-8x14.fnt cp865-8x1 >6.fnt cp865-thin-8x8.fnt cp865-thin-8x16.fnt cp866-8x8.fnt cp866-8x14.fnt cp86 >6-8x16.fnt cp866b-8x16.fnt cp866c-8x16.fnt iso-8x8.fnt iso-8x14.fnt iso-8x16.f >nt iso02-8x8.fnt iso02-8x14.fnt iso02-8x16.fnt iso-thin-8x16.fnt iso-8859-2-8 >x16.fnt koi8-r-8x8.fnt koi8-r-8x14.fnt koi8-r-8x16.fnt koi8-rb-8x16.fnt koi8-r >c-8x16.fnt INDEX.fonts /usr/share/syscons/fonts >install: cp437-8x8.fnt: No such file or directory >*** Error code 71 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >See list of files in /usr/src/share/syscons/fonts > >total 171 >drwxr-xr-x 2 root bin 1024 26 ÍÁÒ 20:27 ./ >drwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 512 2 ÄÅË 21:46 ../ >-rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 7049 26 ÍÁÒ 20:27 INDEX.fonts >-rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 835 26 ÍÁÒ 20:27 Makefile >-rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 4967 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-8x14.fnt >-rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 5675 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-8x16.fnt >-rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 2850 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-8x8.fnt > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > File is present !!! > Why abort 'make installworld' ??? >-rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 5680 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-thin-8x16.fnt >-rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 2855 2 ÄÅË 21:46 cp437-thin-8x8.fnt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 06:27:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05458 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:27:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (0@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05422 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:27:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id GAA05598; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdaafFaa; Wed Apr 1 06:26:38 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) id GAA11277; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:26:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199804011426.GAA11277@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpd011269; Wed Apr 1 06:25:42 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cy To: David Kelly cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stuck console In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:57:47 CST." <199803311457.IAA26168@PeeCee.tbe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 06:25:40 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On exit from X last night my vty console did not recover. Normally I login > via vty0 and launch startx. Am running the XF86_Mach64 server. > > Today, I telent'ed in from another system and launched startx. So for now > I'm functioning without having to reboot. Alt-F[1-4] do nothing. The > Scroll Lock key does nothing. Any way to reset the text console? This problem occurs when we, as humans become impatient with the computer. I've had these hangs ever since I've started using FreeBSD way back at 2.0.5. The hangs have occured while using XF86 and XiG's X servers. To reproduce the hangs, you just need a little impatience. Just hit Alt-F? when X blanks the screen but before X has a chance to display anything, e.g. before X comes up after XDM starts up, just after logging out but before XDM (or DTLOGIN for CDE users) has a chance to display the login screen, or when my second machine at home (used as an X terminal) starts up X (Xserver -query in rc.local, and the console tty's just hang but the X server starts up O.K. The only way to get the console tty's back is to reboot. I don't think that this is a serious problem. I just remember to keep my grubby little fingers off the keyboard when logging out or when the X server is starting up. Besides, if you're using a FreeBSD system as an X terminal and the console tty's hang, I'd consider that a security feature. This way your customers have to use the XDM login. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 UNIX Support OV/VM: BCSC02(CSCHUBER) ITSD BITNET: CSCHUBER@BCSC02.BITNET Government of BC Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 06:39:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09335 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:39:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA08246 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:35:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA16500; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:27:59 +0200 Message-ID: <35224EDF.687DE336@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:27:43 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dep. de Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: Axel Thimm , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel Thimm Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand References: <5082.891377021@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > worlds with /etc and /dev updating, but I have no clue of how to deal with > > /stand stuff. I am especially interested in sysinstall, which should have bee > > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install > The /stand directory that I have (created after a fresh install of FreeBSD 2.2.1 about a year ago) has 19 hard links to the same file. One of the links is named "sysinstall". In any case, this executable is statically linked. If you go to /usr/src/release/sysinstall and build sysinstall, you will get a dinamically linked executable. I chose to install this file in /usr/sbin instead of /stand because it needs the libraries in /usr/lib, so that /usr must be mounted. But I don't know how to build the static executable that resides in /stand. -- JM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-4-4647700 x2624 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-4-4858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 06:49:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11315 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:49:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11309 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:49:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA03698; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:48:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199804011448.IAA03698@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stuck console In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Apr 1998 06:25:40 PST." <199804011426.GAA11277@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 08:48:50 -0600 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group writes: > > I don't think that this is a serious problem. I just remember to keep > my grubby little fingers off the keyboard when logging out or when the > X server is starting up. Besides, if you're using a FreeBSD system as > an X terminal and the console tty's hang, I'd consider that a security > feature. This way your customers have to use the XDM login. Guess I should spend some time getting xdm set up to my liking as I've been taking the lazy way out with startx. To the best of my knowledge, I didn't fumble-finger anything while startx was starting up. But thanks for the hint, I'll try it sometime when I feel like rebooting. :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 06:51:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11738 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:51:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (root@host-32-96-42-149.atl.bellsouth.net [32.96.42.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11721 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:51:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA27716; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:47:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:47:29 -0500 (EST) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: "Jose M. Alcaide" cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Axel Thimm , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel Thimm Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand In-Reply-To: <35224EDF.687DE336@we.lc.ehu.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk you need to specify the static flag in CFLAGS in the Makefile. -Jon On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Jose M. Alcaide wrote: > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > worlds with /etc and /dev updating, but I have no clue of how to deal with > > > /stand stuff. I am especially interested in sysinstall, which should have bee > > > > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install > > > > The /stand directory that I have (created after a fresh install > of FreeBSD 2.2.1 about a year ago) has 19 hard links to the same file. > One of the links is named "sysinstall". In any case, this executable > is statically linked. If you go to /usr/src/release/sysinstall and > build sysinstall, you will get a dinamically linked executable. > I chose to install this file in /usr/sbin instead of /stand > because it needs the libraries in /usr/lib, so that /usr must > be mounted. > > But I don't know how to build the static executable that > resides in /stand. > > -- JM > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es > Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose > Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | > Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-4-4647700 x2624 > 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-4-4858139 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 07:15:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15947 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx2.cso.uiuc.edu (mx2.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15919 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:15:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by mx2.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22197 for <@mailhost.uiuc.edu:stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:14:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for stable@freebsd.org id JAA15527; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:14:19 -0600 From: igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) Message-Id: <199804011514.JAA15527@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: accounting bug ? To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:14:19 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello! Sorry f this is already known. I've just found that the standard accounting implemented in FreeBSD 2.2.5-Release (and early February -stable) has a bug (or a feature ?). I was logged in for many days (over a half a month), and still logged in, but in the monthly accounting report my username was not included at all even though the current session was not the only one. (This was not the case for 2.1-stable box - there it should my username, though with probably slightly lower usage time, I didn't check it - may be it didn't count the last 2-week lasting session). While writing I realized what is the reason for such strange behavior - the wtmpx file was turned over. with 2.1-* - it was not turned over until the 1st of the next month. IgoR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 07:23:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19053 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:23:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19045 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:23:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28398; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:20:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Jose M. Alcaide" cc: Axel Thimm , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel Thimm Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:27:43 +0200." <35224EDF.687DE336@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:20:51 -0800 Message-ID: <28394.891444051@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > The /stand directory that I have (created after a fresh install > of FreeBSD 2.2.1 about a year ago) has 19 hard links to the same file. Right, and only one of them (sysinstall) is really necessary for post-installation configuration. However, you do have a point about the executable being linked shared - that was actually and oversight which I've just now fixed, thanks! Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 07:25:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19732 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:25:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zwieracz.pse.pl (zwieracz.pse.pl [195.117.106.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19678 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:25:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from krap@zwieracz.pse.pl) Received: (from krap@localhost) by zwieracz.pse.pl (8.8.7/8.8.5) id RAA20908 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:25:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:25:08 +0200 (CEST) From: maciej grzeszczuk Message-Id: <199804011525.RAA20908@zwieracz.pse.pl> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world problems - ypxfr_misc.c Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hi i've experienced problems while make world on 2.2.5-RELEASE. can anyone help me? chflags/chflags.c /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chflags/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c ===> usr.bin/chpass rpcgen -C -h -o yppasswd_private.h /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chpass/../../usr.sbin/rpc .yppasswdd/yppasswd_private.x rpcgen -C -c -o yppasswd_private_xdr.c /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chpass/../../usr.sbin /rpc.yppasswdd/yppasswd_private.x rpcgen -C -h -o yp.h /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yp.x rpcgen -C -l -o yp_clnt.c /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yp.x rpcgen -C -h -o yppasswd.h /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yppasswd.x rpcgen -C -l -o yppasswd_clnt.c /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yppas swd.x make: don't know how to make ypxfr_misc.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- = krap@zwieracz.pse.pl = phone +48-602-339173 = InterNIC: MKG5 = = 2:480/70 = PGP 50D98803B12327E7 216A787AB7EFD5FA * in arp we trust * = finger me or mail a message with subject: 'get-pgpkey' for pgp key = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 07:27:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20415 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20345 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:27:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28926; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:24:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Dexnation Holodream cc: "Jose M. Alcaide" , Axel Thimm , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Axel Thimm Subject: Re: Upgrading /stand In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Apr 1998 09:47:29 EST." Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:24:29 -0800 Message-ID: <28922.891444269@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hmm. It's actually simpler just to say ``make NOSHARED=YES''. > you need to specify the static flag in CFLAGS in the Makefile. > > -Jon > > On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Jose M. Alcaide wrote: > > > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > > worlds with /etc and /dev updating, but I have no clue of how to deal w ith > > > > /stand stuff. I am especially interested in sysinstall, which should ha ve bee > > > > > > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install > > > > > > > The /stand directory that I have (created after a fresh install > > of FreeBSD 2.2.1 about a year ago) has 19 hard links to the same file. > > One of the links is named "sysinstall". In any case, this executable > > is statically linked. If you go to /usr/src/release/sysinstall and > > build sysinstall, you will get a dinamically linked executable. > > I chose to install this file in /usr/sbin instead of /stand > > because it needs the libraries in /usr/lib, so that /usr must > > be mounted. > > > > But I don't know how to build the static executable that > > resides in /stand. > > > > -- JM > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es > > Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose > > Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | > > Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-4-4647700 x2624 > > 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-4-4858139 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 09:08:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06732 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:08:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA06721 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:08:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yKQzY-0004Yb-00; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:08:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:07:58 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Igor Roshchin cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: accounting bug ? In-Reply-To: <199804011514.JAA15527@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Igor Roshchin wrote: > Hello! > > Sorry f this is already known. > I've just found that the standard accounting implemented in FreeBSD > 2.2.5-Release (and early February -stable) has a bug (or a feature ?). Known and discussed on this list before. newsyslog is rotates the accounting logs, but does not do them on the 1st of the month. /etc/monthly processes the "last" accounting log as it were a monthly, but is usually only a couple of weeks. See /etc/newsylog.conf and /etc/monthly Obvious fix is to move rotation from /etc/newsyslog.conf to /etc/monthly I think this is done in 2.2.6-stable, but /etc/ does not get updated automatically. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 09:38:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12021 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:38:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12011 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:38:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yKRT4-0007Un-00; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:38:31 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:38:29 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: maciej grzeszczuk cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world problems - ypxfr_misc.c In-Reply-To: <199804011525.RAA20908@zwieracz.pse.pl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, maciej grzeszczuk wrote: > hi > > i've experienced problems while make world on 2.2.5-RELEASE. can anyone > help me? Why on earth would anyone do a "make world" on 2.2.5-RELEASE? > chflags/chflags.c /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chflags/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c > ===> usr.bin/chpass > rpcgen -C -h -o yppasswd_private.h /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chpass/../../usr.sbin/rpc > .yppasswdd/yppasswd_private.x > rpcgen -C -c -o yppasswd_private_xdr.c /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chpass/../../usr.sbin > /rpc.yppasswdd/yppasswd_private.x > rpcgen -C -h -o yp.h /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yp.x > rpcgen -C -l -o yp_clnt.c /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yp.x > rpcgen -C -h -o yppasswd.h /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yppasswd.x > rpcgen -C -l -o yppasswd_clnt.c /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yppas > swd.x > make: don't know how to make ypxfr_misc.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 Your build enviroment is damaged. Make sure /usr/src and /usr/obj and go to the right places and /usr/obj is empty. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 10:16:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19211 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:16:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.2.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19169 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id KAA16153; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:59:14 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199804011759.KAA16153@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: make world problems - ypxfr_misc.c To: tom@uniserve.com (Tom) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:59:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: krap@zwieracz.pse.pl, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Tom at "Apr 1, 98 09:38:29 am" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, maciej grzeszczuk wrote: > > > hi > > > > i've experienced problems while make world on 2.2.5-RELEASE. can anyone > > help me? > > Why on earth would anyone do a "make world" on 2.2.5-RELEASE? I'd guess because he wanted to see if he could, before he started messing with things. > > *** Error code 2 > > Your build enviroment is damaged. Make sure /usr/src and /usr/obj and > go to the right places and /usr/obj is empty. Good thing he did, too. > Tom -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL22) Brother, can you paradigm? 602-953-1392 chad@dcfinc.com chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 12:06:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06288 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06210 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:05:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@zeta.org.au) Received: from gurney.reilly.home (d31.syd2.zeta.org.au [203.26.11.31]) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA00834; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:04:55 +1000 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by gurney.reilly.home (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA00802; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:10:57 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Reilly Message-Id: <199804011310.XAA00802@gurney.reilly.home> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:10:56 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: 2.2.6; buildworld with -O3, groff fails... To: kmartin@infoteam.com cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804010341.WAA23432@calumet.infoteam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 31 Mar, Kenn Martin wrote: > On Wed, 01 Apr 1998 02:57:20 +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > >>I tried a 'make clean buildworld' on a newly cvsup'd 2.2.6-stable with >>/etc/make.conf's CFLAGS set to -O3 -pipe -m486 >> >>groff fails to compile, and gcc dumped core possibly with error 6?. (I >>talked to my girlfriend over the phone, and she told me this by reading >>the screen, so I can't be more specific. I can give you more details > > Same here. Tried -O2 and everything _seems_ OK; haven't done an > installworld yet. This is on a PentiumPro 200, 128MB RAM. I've been running a -O2 world for a couple of weeks, just to see if it made any difference. The kernel went up from about 650k to about 750k, so I guess some inlining is happening. There were one or two compiler crashes, but I think I've got a dodgey memory system: I'm running without an L2 cache at the moment, which helps. From memory, there's just one file (a yacc parser, I think. Could even be groff) that causes gcc to break on -O2, and has to be compiled at -O. -- Andrew "The steady state of disks is full." -- Ken Thompson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 14:04:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23931 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.ase.dowjones.com (ns.ase.dowjones.com [206.112.106.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23924 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:04:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim.king@mail.sstar.com) Received: from teal (teal.ase.dowjones.com [206.112.106.125]) by ns.ase.dowjones.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA29980 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:04:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980401160424.00916680@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: jim.king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:04:24 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jim King Subject: ifconfig alias oddness Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I'm seeing this happen on a 2.2.6-RELEASE system and on a system built from -stable as of noon today. I have de0 configured and working, at IP 206.112.106.11. If I try to add an alias IP address like this: ifconfig de0 inet 206.112.106.55 alias I get the message "ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists". (There is no other host using 206.112.106.55.) However, "ifconfig -a" shows the alias address (in addition to the original address) on de0, and pinging the alias address from another host is answered correctly by this host. However however, if from this host I try to ping 206.112.106.55 the ping fails 100% of the time. A little investigation with tcpdump shows that it sends an ARP who-is 206.112.106.55 but doesn't answer itself. The bogus "file exists" message doesn't bother me, but the odd ping-myself behavior has me a bit worried. Is this a bug, or do I need to go read the ifconfig man page again? *************************************************************************** * All opinions expressed herein fully | * * represent the views of my dogs: | Jim King * * Shortstop: "Bark!" | jim.king@mail.sstar.com * * Bunny: "Bark!" | http://www.sstar.com/jim_king/ * *************************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 14:08:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24359 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24176; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:07:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sef@kithrup.com) Received: (from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01425; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:07:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sef) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:07:31 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Eric Fagan Message-Id: <199804012207.OAA01425@kithrup.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: swap-leak in 2.2.5 ? In-Reply-To: <657.891465523.kithrup.freebsd.current@critter.freebsd.dk> References: Your message of "Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:05:10 -0000." <199804010705.AAA17595@usr02.primenet.com> Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In article <657.891465523.kithrup.freebsd.current@critter.freebsd.dk> you write: >The problem is, the kernel cannot account for the twohundred som Mbyte >of swap space it claims is in use. Even if I kill all processes the >number doesn't decrease significantly :-( There is something wrong with -stable. I reported this to John about a month ago, maybe two (I forget exactly). I noticed it when I upgraded from 32MBytes to 96MBytes of RAM; my swap usage, instead of going down, went drastically up. I am pretty sure it is related to MFS in my case; I was unable to see an MFS process in PHK's ps listing. Right now, I am at: Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/sd0s1b 131072 4448 126560 3% Interleaved /dev/sd1s1b 131072 4408 126600 3% Interleaved Total 262016 8856 253160 3% I'm sorry, but with 96MBytes of RAM, there is no reason for my system to swap, given what it does. And that amount will slowly grow; when I rebooted for the OS upgrade on Saturday, it was at 39MBytes or so (MFS is 32MBytes on my system). However: when I shut down to single user mode, it dropped down to about 100Kbytes in use. So, I think there's a leak, but I'm not sure *where* it is. Or perhaps it's just bad swap usage by the kernel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 14:13:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26161 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26002; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:12:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07880; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:12:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199804012212.OAA07880@implode.root.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: swap-leak in 2.2.5 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Apr 1998 14:07:31 PST." <199804012207.OAA01425@kithrup.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 14:12:28 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >In article <657.891465523.kithrup.freebsd.current@critter.freebsd.dk> you write: >>The problem is, the kernel cannot account for the twohundred som Mbyte >>of swap space it claims is in use. Even if I kill all processes the >>number doesn't decrease significantly :-( > >There is something wrong with -stable. I reported this to John about a month >ago, maybe two (I forget exactly). > >I noticed it when I upgraded from 32MBytes to 96MBytes of RAM; my swap usage, >instead of going down, went drastically up. > >I am pretty sure it is related to MFS in my case; I was unable to see an MFS >process in PHK's ps listing. > >Right now, I am at: > >Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type >/dev/sd0s1b 131072 4448 126560 3% Interleaved >/dev/sd1s1b 131072 4408 126600 3% Interleaved >Total 262016 8856 253160 3% > >I'm sorry, but with 96MBytes of RAM, there is no reason for my system to swap, >given what it does. And that amount will slowly grow; when I rebooted for the >OS upgrade on Saturday, it was at 39MBytes or so (MFS is 32MBytes on my >system). > >However: when I shut down to single user mode, it dropped down to about >100Kbytes in use. > >So, I think there's a leak, but I'm not sure *where* it is. Or perhaps it's >just bad swap usage by the kernel. FreeBSD will slowly page infrequently used pages out in favor of file caching, and 8MB (or 32+8) is about what you'd expect to see in this case. Poul's problem seems to be different, however. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 14:14:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26577 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:14:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rih.org (mail.rih.org [168.229.204.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26478 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Postmaster@mail.rih.org) Message-Id: <199804012214.OAA26478@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from mail.rih.org by mail.rih.org (AppleShare IP Mail Server 5.0.1) id 22832 via NDR; Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:19:28 -0500 From: "Postmaster" Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:19:28 -0500 Subject: Non-Delivery Report To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Could not deliver message (ID=22826). 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The first portion of the original message text follows: ------------------------------------------------------- Received: from hub.freebsd.org by mail.rih.org (AppleShare IP Mail Server 5.0.1) id 22826 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:19:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA24504; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:08:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:08:48 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24375 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24176; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:07:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sef@kithrup.com) Received: (from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01425; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:07:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sef) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:07:31 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Eric Fagan Message-Id: <199804012207.OAA01425@kithrup.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: swap-leak in 2.2.5 ? In-Reply-To: <657.891465523.kithrup.freebsd.current@critter.freebsd.dk> References: Your message of "Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:05:10 -0000." <199804010705.AAA17595@usr02.primenet.com> Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <657.891465523.kithrup.freebsd.current@critter.freebsd.dk> you write: >The problem is, the kernel cannot account for the twohundred som Mbyte >of swap space it claims is in use. Even if I kill all processes the >number doesn't decrease significantly :-( There is something wrong with -stable. I reported this to John about a month ago, maybe two (I forget exactly). I noticed it when I upgraded from 32MBytes to 96MBytes of RAM; my swap usage, instead of going down, went drastically up. I am pretty sure it is related to MFS in my case; I was unable to see an MFS process in PHK's ps listing. Right now, I am at: Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/sd0s1b 131072 4448 126560 3% Interleaved /dev/sd1s1b 131072 4408 126600 3% Interleaved Total 262016 8856 253160 3% I'm sorry, but with 96MBytes of RAM, there is no reason for my system to swap, given what it does. And that amount will slowly grow; when I rebooted for the OS upgrade on Saturday, it was at 39MBytes or so (MFS is 32MBytes on my system). However: when I shut down to single user mode, it dropped down to about 100Kbytes in use. So, I think there's a leak, but I'm not sure *where* it is. Or perhaps it's just bad swap usage by the kernel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 14:21:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27896 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:21:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27886 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:21:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (mail.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.21]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19071; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:21:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:21:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Jim King cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig alias oddness In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980401160424.00916680@mail.sstar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Jim King wrote: > I'm seeing this happen on a 2.2.6-RELEASE system and on a system built from > -stable as of noon today. > > I have de0 configured and working, at IP 206.112.106.11. If I try to add > an alias IP address like this: > > ifconfig de0 inet 206.112.106.55 alias > > I get the message "ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists". (There is > no other host using 206.112.106.55.) > > However, "ifconfig -a" shows the alias address (in addition to the original > address) on de0, and pinging the alias address from another host is > answered correctly by this host. > > However however, if from this host I try to ping 206.112.106.55 the ping > fails 100% of the time. A little investigation with tcpdump shows that it > sends an ARP who-is 206.112.106.55 but doesn't answer itself. > > The bogus "file exists" message doesn't bother me, but the odd ping-myself > behavior has me a bit worried. Is this a bug, or do I need to go read the > ifconfig man page again? Check your routing tables. If an entry exists for 206.112.106.55, delete it about 3 times in a row (to make sure) and ping yourself again. Are you running routed? That could be doing it... *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 14:25:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28374 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:25:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA28336 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:24:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yKVw7-0001gO-00; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:24:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:24:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Jim King cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig alias oddness In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980401160424.00916680@mail.sstar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Jim King wrote: > ifconfig de0 inet 206.112.106.55 alias > The bogus "file exists" message doesn't bother me, but the odd ping-myself Do: ifconfig de0 inet 206.112.106.55 alias netmask 255.255.255.255 Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 14:38:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01680 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:38:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zwieracz.pse.pl (zwieracz.pse.pl [195.117.106.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01493 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:38:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from krap@sanos.psych.uw.edu.pl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by zwieracz.pse.pl (8.8.7/8.8.5) with UUCP id AAA17080; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:37:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from krap@localhost) by sanos.psych.uw.edu.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA26089; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:29:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:29:14 +0200 (CEST) From: maciej grzeszczuk Message-Id: <199804012229.AAA26089@sanos.psych.uw.edu.pl> To: krap@zwieracz.pse.pl, tom@uniserve.com Subject: Re: make world problems - ypxfr_misc.c Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > i've experienced problems while make world on 2.2.5-RELEASE. can anyone > > help me? > Why on earth would anyone do a "make world" on 2.2.5-RELEASE? i answered in my previous post... > > make: don't know how to make ypxfr_misc.c. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > Your build enviroment is damaged. Make sure /usr/src and /usr/obj and > go to the right places and /usr/obj is empty. ok. let me show you my situation: /mnt-12 is nfs mounted 4gb disk /usr/src is symlink to /mnt-12/src /usr/obj is symlink to /mnt-12/obj if something here isn't right and could possibly disturb proper compilation process, please correct me. -- = krap@zwieracz.pse.pl = phone +48-602-339173 = InterNIC: MKG5 = = 2:480/70 = PGP 50D98803B12327E7 216A787AB7EFD5FA * in arp we trust * = finger me or mail a message with subject: 'get-pgpkey' for pgp key = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 1 15:31:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08812 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:31:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from maila.telia.com (root@maila.telia.com [194.236.189.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08656 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:31:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from d1o29.telia.com (root@d1o29.telia.com [194.236.214.241]) by maila.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22553 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:30:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from partitur.se (t4o29p106.telia.com [194.236.215.226]) by d1o29.telia.com (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA21441 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:30:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3522CE07.B8F57BB7@partitur.se> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 01:30:16 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-BETA i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make buildworld -O3 fails on stable; compile logs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi! This is following up a previous mail: Here's what happens: ===> share/doc/psd/title (cd /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title) | gzip -c > Title.ascii.gz /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title:48: warning: `pt' not defined grotty in free(): warning: chunk is already free. grotty in free(): warning: chunk is already free. grotty in free(): warning: chunk is already free. grotty in free(): warning: chunk is already free. grotty in free(): warning: chunk is already free. grotty in free(): warning: chunk is already free. ... continues for ever... (20000, that's twenty-thousand) lines. Yep, counted them :) Annoying that it's just docs... I cheked a -O1 I did last week on another machine, and it also get the pt defined, but just goes on. with -O3, grotty goes berzerk... Tring the last command by hand I get the pt not defined bit. Don't see how this has anything to do with optimizations... Does make use the newly built groff? The only warning I can find about groff is this: D=1 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/eqn/list.cc /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/eqn/list.cc: In method `int list_box::compute_metrics(int)': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/eqn/list.cc:162: warning: variable `i' shadows local /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/eqn/list.cc:94: warning: this is the shadowed declaration /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/eqn/list.cc: In method `void list_box::compute_sublist_width(int)': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/eqn/list.cc:190: warning: variable `i' shadows local /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/eqn/list.cc:177: warning: this is the shadowed declaration c++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -O3 -pipe -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_DIR_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DSTDLIB_H_DECLARES_GETOPT=1 -DSTDLIB_H_DECLARES_PUTENV=1 -DSTDIO_H_DECLARES_POPEN=1 -DSTDIO_H_DECLARE_PCLOSE=1 -DHAVE_CC_OSFCN_H=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRUCT_EXCEPTION=1 -DHAVE_RENAME=1 -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1 -DSYS_SIGLIST_DECLARED=1 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/eqn/../../../../contrib/groff/eqn/over.cc Also, the compile ens 20000 lines after the first grotty line with the following. Guess it just chokes on memory: ===> share/doc/papers/memfs indxbib -c /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/../../../../contrib/groff/indxbib/eign -o ref.bib /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/ref.bib indxbib in free(): warning: page is already free. indxbib in free(): warning: page is already free. vgrind -f < /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/A.t > A.gt refer -n -e -l -s -p /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/ref.bib /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/0.t /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/1.t A.gt > paper.t Failed assertion at line 161, file `/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/refer/../../../../contrib/groff/refer/token.cc'. Abort trap - core dumped *** Error code 134 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Regards, palle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 01:51:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13697 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:51:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13690 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16244 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:51:32 +0100 (MET) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03310 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:32 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08252 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199804020951.LAA20697@intern> Subject: Fix for the de driver in 2.2.6 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Below is the message I sent to gnats yesterday concerning kern/4841 and kern/5590. Maybe it's okay to bring it into -2.2.6... It is running now with the new driver for about 24 hours perfectly... Thanks, -Andre --------------------------- snip --------------------------- The patch below brings back the BNC functionality for the SMC 8434 dual channel NIC. I noticed that csr_sia_connectivity was initalized with 0x0000EF09 in the old driver while it was 0x00008F09 in the new driver. It is a small change but it took me nearly one day to find it :-). However, I don't know what else it breaks, since I don't have other 21040 based cards (only 21041). Maybe Matt will review this before it goes into -stable, I will drop him a note. I think this also affects kern/5590 :-) *** dc21040reg.h.ORI Wed Apr 1 17:59:58 1998 --- dc21040reg.h Wed Apr 1 17:59:58 1998 *************** *** 212,226 **** #define TULIP_21040_PROBE_AUIBNC_TIMEOUT 300 #define TULIP_21040_PROBE_EXTSIA_TIMEOUT 300 ! #define TULIP_21040_SIACONN_10BASET 0x00008F01L #define TULIP_21040_SIATXRX_10BASET 0x0000FFFFL #define TULIP_21040_SIAGEN_10BASET 0x00000000L ! #define TULIP_21040_SIACONN_10BASET_FD 0x00008F01L #define TULIP_21040_SIATXRX_10BASET_FD 0x0000FFFDL #define TULIP_21040_SIAGEN_10BASET_FD 0x00000000L ! #define TULIP_21040_SIACONN_AUIBNC 0x00008F09L #define TULIP_21040_SIATXRX_AUIBNC 0x00000705L #define TULIP_21040_SIAGEN_AUIBNC 0x00000006L --- 212,226 ---- #define TULIP_21040_PROBE_AUIBNC_TIMEOUT 300 #define TULIP_21040_PROBE_EXTSIA_TIMEOUT 300 ! #define TULIP_21040_SIACONN_10BASET 0x0000EF01L #define TULIP_21040_SIATXRX_10BASET 0x0000FFFFL #define TULIP_21040_SIAGEN_10BASET 0x00000000L ! #define TULIP_21040_SIACONN_10BASET_FD 0x0000EF01L #define TULIP_21040_SIATXRX_10BASET_FD 0x0000FFFDL #define TULIP_21040_SIAGEN_10BASET_FD 0x00000000L ! #define TULIP_21040_SIACONN_AUIBNC 0x0000EF09L #define TULIP_21040_SIATXRX_AUIBNC 0x00000705L #define TULIP_21040_SIAGEN_AUIBNC 0x00000006L To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 05:54:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12486 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:54:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from room101.sysc.com (qmailr@richmojm2.student.rose-hulman.edu [137.112.206.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA12465 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jayrich@room101.sysc.com) Received: (qmail 6556 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 1998 13:53:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:53:58 -0500 (EST) From: Jay Richmond To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: unusual dump problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello, Since upgrading from a 2.2-stable system (built around Sep 1997) to 2.2.6-release, I started to experience a strange dump problem. I run dumps every night to a separate hard disk in the system every night through cron. It really doesn't need the user attention to change tapes and so forth, and for months it worked fine. Now the strange part is: when running dump through cron it ALWAYS hangs midway through dumping the large /usr file system (there is plenty of space on the backup disk by the way) every time. However, when I run it as root normally, it completes EVERY time without a hitch. There are no errors associated with the hang, just a look at top reveals that all the dump processes have gone to "pause" mode. At first I thought it might be waiting for some kindof user input or something, but then why would I need user input when running through cron always on a certain file system, while when running it normally as root it completes the entire backup fine every time (to give you an idea I've done each about 20 times, just to make sure that I wasn't playing the odds.) Anyone know what could be causing this? Please cc any reply via e-mail. Thanks for your time, Jay Richmond jayrich@sysc.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 07:14:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23806 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.34.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23739 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:14:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thimm@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de) Received: from oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.33.83]) by axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13726; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:14:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thimm@localhost) by oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.7.1) id RAA21823; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:14:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: Axel Thimm Message-Id: <199804021514.RAA21823@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de> Subject: sysinstall (was Re: Upgrading /stand) In-Reply-To: <28394.891444051@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Apr 1, 98 07:20:51 am" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:14:16 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de (Axel Thimm), stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Axel Thimm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > The /stand directory that I have (created after a fresh install > > of FreeBSD 2.2.1 about a year ago) has 19 hard links to the same file. > > Right, and only one of them (sysinstall) is really necessary for > post-installation configuration. [...] As I understand /stand is considered as "install time only" directory. But sysinstall should be an administration tool also, just like e.g. adduser. Couldn't sysinstall have two modes of being build and installed? 1) like it is now (crunched with the other executables in to /stand) with `make release' 2) ... and a stand alone version (only the sysinstall executable), which installs under /usr/sbin/sysinstall (with bin distribution and `make world'). The help files should probably go under /usr/share/sysinstall This would prevent -stable and -current users from "forgetting" to keep sysinstall up to date. In the long run, I'd propose to even automaticaly remove /stand after installation (i.e. to consider /stand as a temporary fast-to-read-off floppy image). Regards, Axel. -- Axel Thimm Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de Axel.Thimm@ifh.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 07:52:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02488 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zwieracz.pse.pl (zwieracz.pse.pl [195.117.106.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02400 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: (from news@localhost) by zwieracz.pse.pl (8.8.7/8.8.5) id RAA19783 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:49:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from NEWS GATEWAY by zwieracz.pse.pl with netnews for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 2 Apr 1998 17:49:07 +0200 From: maciej grzeszczuk Message-ID: <6g0c1j$j9r$1@zwieracz.pse.pl> Organization: mow do mojej palki, ona czuje sie samotna... Subject: INRIA IPv6 patches for freebsd - problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk echlo ok, let's try it another way - anyone managed to compile freebsd with INRIA IPv6 patches, and can provide me some help? i tried to make buildworld with 2.2.5-RELEASE sources, and patches from March 13 (New.tar.gz from ftp.inria.fr), without any success (i've included full error message at the bottom of that mail). maybe there are any other patches, or it works with different sources, that i don't know. if you do, help me please. the error message i've got is: chflags/chflags.c /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chflags/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c ===> usr.bin/chpass rpcgen -C -h -o yppasswd_private.h /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chpass/../../usr.sbin/rpc .yppasswdd/yppasswd_private.x rpcgen -C -c -o yppasswd_private_xdr.c /mnt-12/src/usr.bin/chpass/../../usr.sbin /rpc.yppasswdd/yppasswd_private.x rpcgen -C -h -o yp.h /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yp.x rpcgen -C -l -o yp_clnt.c /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yp.x rpcgen -C -h -o yppasswd.h /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yppasswd.x rpcgen -C -l -o yppasswd_clnt.c /usr/obj/mnt-12/src/tmp/usr/include/rpcsvc/yppas swd.x make: don't know how to make ypxfr_misc.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. 1305 -- = krap@zwieracz.pse.pl = phone +48-602-339173 = InterNIC: MKG5 = = 2:480/70 = PGP 50D98803B12327E7 216A787AB7EFD5FA * in arp we trust * = finger me or mail a message with subject: 'get-pgpkey' for pgp key = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 07:59:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04081 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:59:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA04008 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA20526; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:49:21 +0200 Message-ID: <3523B37E.77274BA9@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:49:18 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dep. de Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Axel Thimm CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall (was Re: Upgrading /stand) References: <199804021514.RAA21823@oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Axel Thimm wrote: > > As I understand /stand is considered as "install time only" > directory. But sysinstall should be an administration tool also, just like > e.g. adduser. I agree. > > Couldn't sysinstall have two modes of being build and installed? > 1) like it is now (crunched with the other executables in to /stand) with > `make release' > 2) ... and a stand alone version (only the sysinstall executable), which > installs under /usr/sbin/sysinstall (with bin distribution and `make > world'). The help files should probably go under /usr/share/sysinstall > I think that sysinstall should be a static executable, placed in /sbin. In this way, it could be used without the /usr filesystem for doing some tasks. -- JM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-4-4647700 x2624 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-4-4858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 08:00:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04309 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from auxsrv1.lsumc.edu (AUXSRV1.LSUMC.EDU [155.58.118.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04296 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmire@lsumc.edu) Received: from JMIRE.COMPSERV.LSUMC.EDU by auxsrv1.lsumc.edu (5.65/AUX-3.02) id AA10443; Thu, 2 Apr 98 10:00:06 CST Posted-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:59:53 -0600 Message-Id: <3523B5F9.19CDB495@lsumc.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:59:53 -0600 From: John Mire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 08:14:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07066 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:14:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from room101.sysc.com (qmailr@richmojm2.student.rose-hulman.edu [137.112.206.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07060 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:14:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jayrich@room101.sysc.com) Received: (qmail 8248 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 1998 16:14:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:14:12 -0500 (EST) From: Jay Richmond To: Dan Swartzendruber cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: unusual dump problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Sounds like a login.conf issue. Daemon jobs (?) run out of cron are > probably running afoul of a filesize limit or some such. Yep you were right, was running into a 64 meg file size limit.. duh :) wasn't being enforced under a normal root shell. Thanks for the help, Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 09:38:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22613 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:38:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hackerz.org (randy@hackerz.org [209.31.146.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22604 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:38:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@hackerz.org) Received: (from randy@localhost) by hackerz.org (8.8.8/8.6.9) id MAA26891; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:45:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980402124503.19020@hackerz.org> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:45:03 -0500 From: Charles Quarri To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Hesiod support on 2.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am curious is anyone has used hesiod in FreeBSD 2.2 and how much modification needs to be made to the source (if any) needs to be done to get it working. I am looking for a central management system like NIS without the blatant security holes. I have heard that Hesiod can do this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 09:42:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23404 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:42:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23320 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:41:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (JvF24OzhrZn1ZGmED4m/E22fXseOg9jE@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02377; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:41:37 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (NBPRuawKRwLk12d3CFQ/HgBPT9pt5ai7@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21193; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:41:36 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199804021741.TAA21193@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Charles Quarri cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:41:35 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Charles Quarri wrote: > I am curious is anyone has used hesiod in FreeBSD 2.2 and how > much modification needs to be made to the source (if any) needs > to be done to get it working. > > I am looking for a central management system like NIS without > the blatant security holes. I have heard that Hesiod can do this. My interest was piqued with hesiod a few days ago. I have the source and am playing with it. I won't do anything for a while, though. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 10:23:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01972 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:23:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01940 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:23:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@vnode.vmunix.com) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17151; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:24:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark) Message-ID: <19980402132456.63459@vmunix.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:24:56 -0500 From: Mark Mayo To: Marc Fournier Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Marc Fournier on Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 12:19:57AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 12:19:57AM -0400, Marc Fournier wrote: > > Morning... > > Well, tonight, my #$^%#@%@ FreeBSD system is locked up > solid...again. It's pretty much a daily occurance now, and I'm at a loss > as to what to try next. > > I just put in a brand new 2940UW controller, with two UW drives > (I'd tell you which, except I can't get to the system right now), and > there is an IDE drive as the root drive for it... > > Symptom: if I telnet to the machine, I get: > > telnet hub.org > Trying 209.47.148.200... > Connected to hub.org. > Escape character is '^]'. > > And it just sits there... Try turning off TCP_EXTENSIONS in /etc/rc.conf -- this doesn't look like a SCSI problem. :-) -Mark > > At one persons suggestion, I've disabled SCBPAGING, but that > apparently hasn't helped any... > > I'm running 2.2-STABLE on that machine right now, and reported a > problem this morning with a panic: biodone... error message. > > I'm slowly going through the mailing list search engines, and get > the feeling that the 2940 controllers might not be a "good pick" as far as > controllers are concerned :( > > Thoughts? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark finger mark@vmunix.com for my PGP key and GCS code ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The problem is how do you build tools that understand your programs at a deeper semantic level." - James Gosling To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 10:28:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02934 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:28:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02918 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:28:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@vnode.vmunix.com) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17193; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:30:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark) Message-ID: <19980402133012.29746@vmunix.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:30:12 -0500 From: Mark Mayo To: Mark Murray , Charles Quarri Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 References: <199804021741.TAA21193@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199804021741.TAA21193@greenpeace.grondar.za>; from Mark Murray on Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 07:41:35PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 07:41:35PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Charles Quarri wrote: > > I am curious is anyone has used hesiod in FreeBSD 2.2 and how > > much modification needs to be made to the source (if any) needs > > to be done to get it working. > > > > I am looking for a central management system like NIS without > > the blatant security holes. I have heard that Hesiod can do this. > > My interest was piqued with hesiod a few days ago. I have the source > and am playing with it. The CIS department here at the university of Guelph uses hesiod for distrubting the kerberos database.. seems to work fine. we use lots of FreeBSD clients - although the machine running hesiod, etc. is a DEC 2100 (running 4.3BSD Reno, nonetheless!) I'd also be interested in trying it out on FreeBSD. I don't see why it wouldn't work. -Mark > > I won't do anything for a while, though. > > M > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark finger mark@vmunix.com for my PGP key and GCS code ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The problem is how do you build tools that understand your programs at a deeper semantic level." - James Gosling To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 10:45:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05428 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:45:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05190 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yKoxn-0000ab-00; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:43:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:43:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Charles Quarri cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: <19980402124503.19020@hackerz.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Charles Quarri wrote: > I am looking for a central management system like NIS without > the blatant security holes. I have heard that Hesiod can do this. All blatant security holes in NIS depend on how you configure it. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 10:51:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07956 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:51:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07919 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:51:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA17460; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:49:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:49:58 -0500 (EST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Mark Mayo cc: Marc Fournier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... In-Reply-To: <19980402132456.63459@vmunix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Mark Mayo wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 12:19:57AM -0400, Marc Fournier wrote: > > > > Morning... > > > > Well, tonight, my #$^%#@%@ FreeBSD system is locked up > > solid...again. It's pretty much a daily occurance now, and I'm at a loss > > as to what to try next. > > > > I just put in a brand new 2940UW controller, with two UW drives > > (I'd tell you which, except I can't get to the system right now), and > > there is an IDE drive as the root drive for it... > > > > Symptom: if I telnet to the machine, I get: > > > > telnet hub.org > > Trying 209.47.148.200... > > Connected to hub.org. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > > And it just sits there... > > Try turning off TCP_EXTENSIONS in /etc/rc.conf -- this doesn't > look like a SCSI problem. :-) Actually, bringing the transfer rate down to 10Mps vs 20Mps appears to have improved both the uptime (3days now) as well as the overall performance of the machine... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 11:00:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11236 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:00:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11183 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yKpCZ-0001yg-00; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:59:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:59:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: The Hermit Hacker cc: Mark Mayo , Marc Fournier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > Symptom: if I telnet to the machine, I get: > > > > > > telnet hub.org > > > Trying 209.47.148.200... > > > Connected to hub.org. > > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > > > > And it just sits there... > > > > Try turning off TCP_EXTENSIONS in /etc/rc.conf -- this doesn't > > look like a SCSI problem. :-) No, very common SCSI problem. If the SCSI bus hangs, telnet sessions (and everything else) hangs too. The kernel is always resident, and accepts the connection, but if inetd is not paged in or telnetd has to be loaded off the disk, the session hangs. The system will also respond to pings (handled completely in the kernel). Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 13:43:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09407 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09388 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:43:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@vnode.vmunix.com) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17749; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:45:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark) Message-ID: <19980402164544.14311@vmunix.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:45:44 -0500 From: Mark Mayo To: Tom , The Hermit Hacker Cc: Marc Fournier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Tom on Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 10:59:01AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 10:59:01AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > > Symptom: if I telnet to the machine, I get: > > > > > > > > telnet hub.org > > > > Trying 209.47.148.200... > > > > Connected to hub.org. > > > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > > > > > > And it just sits there... > > > > > > Try turning off TCP_EXTENSIONS in /etc/rc.conf -- this doesn't > > > look like a SCSI problem. :-) > > No, very common SCSI problem. If the SCSI bus hangs, telnet sessions > (and everything else) hangs too. The kernel is always resident, and > accepts the connection, but if inetd is not paged in or telnetd has to be > loaded off the disk, the session hangs. The system will also respond to > pings (handled completely in the kernel). "Neat" :-) I've personally never had problems with the 2940's, but I only use non-Wide drives on them... -Mark > > Tom -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark finger mark@vmunix.com for my PGP key and GCS code ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The problem is how do you build tools that understand your programs at a deeper semantic level." - James Gosling To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 14:08:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16018 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:08:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15948 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:08:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cschuber@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id OAA06621; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:07:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199804022207.OAA06621@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost, id smtpdaaqeFa; Thu Apr 2 14:07:18 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cschuber To: Tom cc: Charles Quarri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:43:45 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:06:47 -0800 From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Charles Quarri wrote: > > > I am looking for a central management system like NIS without > > the blatant security holes. I have heard that Hesiod can do this. > > All blatant security holes in NIS depend on how you configure it. You can minimize NIS security holes by limiting which hosts have access to your NIS ports. Another approach I've used (on NIS+) is to put a * in the password fields of the passwd map and use Kerberos V. In this case NIS would serve hosts, services and other maps, and be used for UID to username mapping while Kerberos would be used for user authentication. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 UNIX Support OV/VM: BCSC02(CSCHUBER) ITSD BITNET: CSCHUBER@BCSC02.BITNET Government of BC Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 14:21:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17877 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:21:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from natsoft.com.au (natsoft.com.au [203.39.138.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17861 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@natsoft.com.au) Received: from Win95.natsoft.com.au (Win95 [203.39.138.131]) by natsoft.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19395 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:22:02 GMT Message-ID: <35240F10.632@natsoft.com.au> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:20:00 +1000 From: Craig Wilson Organization: National Software Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: USER PPP Slowness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have several computer systems running FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE on a network using the User PPP from this release. (This system has been very stable, congratulations to all involved). I have a problem when connecting 2 computers via a modem with User PPP running on both ends. The problem is that after a period of time, usually days, the connection will slow down. Ping times from one system to the other are as follows: 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=5841.774 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=4870.321 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=3861.174 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=2860.197 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=1860.253 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=851.134 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=120.262 ms The fix is close the PPP connection and to redial, ie: PPP on > close ppp on > dial The connection now works at 150 ms. I have 2 seperate sets of systems that exhibit the same problem. I am using User PPP to connect to my ISP, this link is fine with no problems. I also have 2 computers connected the same as the above, but using a serial cable instead of a modem, this link is fine. The logs show nothing except in ppp.tun0.log I see: HDLC errors -> FCS: 1 ADDR: 0 COMD: 0 PROTO: 0 but this entry is dated at the time of connection not at the time of the problem. Has anyone seen the above problem before, or could someone please give some tips on how to find the cause of the problem. Thanks in advance for any help. Regards Craig Wilson National Software Pty Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 14:28:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19231 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:28:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19220 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA27503; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:27:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:27:34 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Mark Murray cc: Charles Quarri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199804021741.TAA21193@greenpeace.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Mark Murray wrote: > > I am looking for a central management system like NIS without > > the blatant security holes. I have heard that Hesiod can do this. > > My interest was piqued with hesiod a few days ago. I have the source > and am playing with it. To make Hesiod secure, you need secure name service. I understand that MIT implemented a kerberized DNS query of some kind -- this is not scalable, of course. DNSsec should provide a nice architecture for handling this kind of thing. See also draft-ietf-dnssec-ar-00.txt for some thoughts on how to handle authentication in the context of DNSsec, and assigning identities to DNS names. Robert N Watson ---- Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ Trusted Information Systems http://www.tis.com/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 15:09:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26080 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26048 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:09:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09901; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:09:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <35241A96.4962A670@san.rr.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:09:10 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0325 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Hermit Hacker CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Actually, bringing the transfer rate down to 10Mps vs 20Mps > appears to have improved both the uptime (3days now) as well as the > overall performance of the machine... Someone mentioned checking the cabling previously, did you try this? It seems to me that if reducing the speed helps there may be a cable problem. I have a 2940UW with an IBM DCAS UW drive on it and never had a problem. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 15:19:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27917 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:19:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27865 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:18:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25413; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:18:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA20449; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:18:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:18:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199804022318.QAA20449@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Craig Wilson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USER PPP Slowness In-Reply-To: <35240F10.632@natsoft.com.au> References: <35240F10.632@natsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I have a problem when connecting 2 computers via a modem with > User PPP running on both ends. The problem is that after a period of > time, usually days, the connection will slow down. This is because the modems 'train' down due to noise and/or sunspots on the line. Unless both modems are the expensive kind (USR Courier's are good), they will not 'train' back up, so the connection must be re-done. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 15:51:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03688 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:51:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bouncer.lucasdigital.com (bouncer.lucasdigital.com [207.1.122.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03669 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:51:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mkiernan@lucasdigital.com) Received: by bouncer.lucasdigital.com; id PAA27216; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:55:23 -0800 Received: from malone.kerner.com(10.5.15.15) by bouncer.lucasdigital.com via smap (3.2) id xma027206; Thu, 2 Apr 98 15:55:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by lucasdigital.com (8.6.9/931112-/NEWHUB) id PAA21602; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:52:43 -0800 Received: (from mkiernan@localhost) by moana.kerner.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA01775; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:49:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:49:01 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Kiernan Message-Id: <199804022349.PAA01775@moana.kerner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW with two ?? UW drives... References: <35241A96.4962A670@san.rr.com> Versions: dmail (irix) 2.1m/makemail 2.8o Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Doug wrote: >Someone mentioned checking the cabling previously, did you try this? >It seems to me that if reducing the speed helps there may be a cable >problem. I have a 2940UW with an IBM DCAS UW drive on it and never had a >problem. I recently ran into such a problem. Two UW disks and a narrow CD-ROM on a 2940UW. The default bios setting for the 2940UW sets the maximum synchronous transfer rate at 20.0 MBps. Everything ran fine until I tried setting it to 40.0 MBps, at which point the system would hang after recognizing all the devices. It turned out the CD-ROM's "SCSI Termination" pins, which I had popped a jumper on, were really used to "Disable SCSI Termination". The unterminated bus ran fine at 20 MBps, but choked at 40. Mike -- Michael Kiernan, Systems R&D, ILM mkiernan@kerner.com +415-721-3284 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 16:21:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08822 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:21:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA08807 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:21:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yKuEF-0007EU-00; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:21:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:21:04 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group cc: Charles Quarri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199804022207.OAA06621@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Charles Quarri wrote: > > > > > I am looking for a central management system like NIS without > > > the blatant security holes. I have heard that Hesiod can do this. > > > > All blatant security holes in NIS depend on how you configure it. > > You can minimize NIS security holes by limiting which hosts have access > to your NIS ports. Yes. Similar problems with Hesiod though. You don't want to be running NIS or Hesiod between a server and a client connected via an untrusted network. Most security holes in NIS are made by the system administrator setting up the NIS cluster/domain. > Another approach I've used (on NIS+) is to put a * in the password > fields of the passwd map and use Kerberos V. In this case NIS would > serve hosts, services and other maps, and be used for UID to username > mapping while Kerberos would be used for user authentication. Yes. Hesiod is good for this too. Probably better actually as I think Hesiod's use of DNS will be faster. Plus DNS has nicer caching and replication features than NIS. NIS replication isn't so bad, if using some propietary type of ypxfr, but is otherwise pretty bad. > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > UNIX Support OV/VM: BCSC02(CSCHUBER) > ITSD BITNET: CSCHUBER@BCSC02.BITNET > Government of BC Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca > Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 16:23:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09049 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obiwan.TerraNova.net (root@obiwan.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09022 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bofh@terranova.net) Received: from guenhwyvar (tog@guenhwyvar.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.4]) by obiwan.TerraNova.net (8.8.8/TNN/3.1) with SMTP id TAA25906; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:22:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35242BEF.7900@terranova.net> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:23:11 -0500 From: Travis Mikalson Organization: TerraNovaNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams , Craig Wilson CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USER PPP Slowness References: <35240F10.632@natsoft.com.au> <199804022318.QAA20449@mt.sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote: > > > I have a problem when connecting 2 computers via a modem with > > User PPP running on both ends. The problem is that after a period of > > time, usually days, the connection will slow down. > > This is because the modems 'train' down due to noise and/or sunspots on > the line. Unless both modems are the expensive kind (USR Courier's are > good), they will not 'train' back up, so the connection must be re-done. Actually I have yet to see a v.34(+) modem that wouldn't train back up. USR Sportsters, Supras, Cardinals.. under $70 28.8/33.6 no-name modems.. I have witnessed all of these train down and then back up when line conditions improved again a minute later.. no special settings; just the correct Windows95 "driver" (some even using "standard modem") You may want to check your modem manual and look for the settings that pertain to retraining. -T -- TerraNovaNet Internet Services - Key Largo, FL Voice: (305)453-4011 Fax: (305)451-5991 http://www.terranova.net/ ---------------------------------------------- Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, and a dark side, and it holds the universe together ... -- Carl Zwanzig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 16:34:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10821 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:34:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kstreet.interlog.com (kws@kstreet.interlog.com [198.53.146.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10785 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:34:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kws@kstreet.interlog.com) Received: (from kws@localhost) by kstreet.interlog.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09988; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:34:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) From: Kevin Street MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:34:22 -0500 (EST) To: Jay Richmond Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: unusual dump problem In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13604.8200.542586.473773@kstreet.interlog.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jay Richmond writes: >Since upgrading from a 2.2-stable system (built around Sep 1997) to >2.2.6-release, I started to experience a strange dump problem. > >Now the strange part is: when running dump through cron it ALWAYS hangs >midway through dumping the large /usr file system (there is plenty of >space on the backup disk by the way) every time. However, when I run it >as root normally, it completes EVERY time without a hitch. I have seen something similar... when I do a dump using sudo on a large filesystem it hangs when it tries to put out a status message like DUMP: 15.75% done, finished in 0:26 (the message does not get displayed when it hangs). If I su to root instead of using sudo it works fine. Watching top it appears that one of the dump processes dies and the rest are paused. My nightly cron dumps don't see this, but they're short and probably are not putting out the status message (I do the level 0 dumps manually). Can you tell if your cron dump is pausing at the point that it would be trying to put out a status message? -- Kevin Street street@iName.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 16:47:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12420 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:47:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12362 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA21896; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:49:54 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:49:53 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: Charles Quarri cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: <19980402124503.19020@hackerz.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Charles Quarri wrote: > I am curious is anyone has used hesiod in FreeBSD 2.2 and how > much modification needs to be made to the source (if any) needs > to be done to get it working. > I have looked at the source (still have it unpacked), but I didn't do anything much with it. Would be cool if FreeBSD had an option like "MAKE_KERBEROS4" which would build all utilities (w, ps, etc.) with full hesiod support... > I am looking for a central management system like NIS without > the blatant security holes. I have heard that Hesiod can do this. > Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 17:03:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15225 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:03:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15190 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:03:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA26049; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:03:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA20764; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:03:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:03:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199804030103.SAA20764@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Travis Mikalson Cc: Nate Williams , Craig Wilson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USER PPP Slowness In-Reply-To: <35242BEF.7900@terranova.net> References: <35240F10.632@natsoft.com.au> <199804022318.QAA20449@mt.sri.com> <35242BEF.7900@terranova.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > I have a problem when connecting 2 computers via a modem with > > > User PPP running on both ends. The problem is that after a period of > > > time, usually days, the connection will slow down. > > > > This is because the modems 'train' down due to noise and/or sunspots on > > the line. Unless both modems are the expensive kind (USR Courier's are > > good), they will not 'train' back up, so the connection must be re-done. > > Actually I have yet to see a v.34(+) modem that wouldn't train back up. > USR Sportsters, Supras, Cardinals.. under $70 28.8/33.6 no-name > modems.. None of them train back up. Read the documentation again. That's one of the big selling features of the 'higher-end' modems, since almost all low-end modems could easily do that. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 17:14:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16881 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:14:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from insomnia.norden1.com (insomnia.norden1.com [192.153.35.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16801 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:13:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmutter@insomnia.norden1.com) Received: from localhost (jmutter@localhost) by insomnia.norden1.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03461; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:14:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmutter@insomnia.norden1.com) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:14:19 -0500 (EST) From: "James A. Mutter" To: Nate Williams cc: Travis Mikalson , Craig Wilson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USER PPP Slowness In-Reply-To: <199804030103.SAA20764@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Actually I have yet to see a v.34(+) modem that wouldn't train back up. > > USR Sportsters, Supras, Cardinals.. under $70 28.8/33.6 no-name > > modems.. > > None of them train back up. Read the documentation again. That's one > of the big selling features of the 'higher-end' modems, since almost all > low-end modems could easily do that. > > I don't think that's true anymore. I believe that they fixed that problem ( not training back up ) years ago. My $65.00 33.6 does a fine job, it goes down, it goes up, no problems at all. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 17:23:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19110 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:23:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obiwan.TerraNova.net (root@obiwan.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18761 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:22:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bofh@terranova.net) Received: from guenhwyvar (tog@guenhwyvar.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.4]) by obiwan.TerraNova.net (8.8.8/TNN/3.1) with SMTP id UAA27502; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:21:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <352439C5.7FDE@terranova.net> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:22:13 -0500 From: Travis Mikalson Organization: TerraNovaNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams CC: Craig Wilson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USER PPP Slowness References: <35240F10.632@natsoft.com.au> <199804022318.QAA20449@mt.sri.com> <35242BEF.7900@terranova.net> <199804030103.SAA20764@mt.sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > None of them train back up. Read the documentation again. That's one > of the big selling features of the 'higher-end' modems, since almost all > low-end modems could easily do that. The docs for these modems (aside from the USR Courier manual which is nice and thick) wouldn't mention something that specific :P I can stare at someone's connection that has a cheap no-name modem and an unstable phone line and watch them go from 26400 down to 19200 and back up to 26400 again. Both the Supra here with the neat LCD display that gives me the current connect speed and the Microcom ISPorte with the management software show this same train-down-then-back-up behavior. -T -- TerraNovaNet Internet Services - Key Largo, FL Voice: (305)453-4011 Fax: (305)451-5991 http://www.terranova.net/ ---------------------------------------------- Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, and a dark side, and it holds the universe together ... -- Carl Zwanzig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 17:24:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19235 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19161 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA10619; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:23:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:23:27 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Narvi cc: Charles Quarri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Narvi wrote: > > I am curious is anyone has used hesiod in FreeBSD 2.2 and how > > much modification needs to be made to the source (if any) needs > > to be done to get it working. > > I have looked at the source (still have it unpacked), but I didn't do > anything much with it. Would be cool if FreeBSD had an option like > "MAKE_KERBEROS4" which would build all utilities (w, ps, etc.) with full > hesiod support... I was under the impression that Hesiod did not require w/ps/etc to be recompiled due to toehold, or was that an MIT-only thing? I thought they dynamically allocated UIDs when the user logged in (this was the toehold step), and added them to passwd, etc. They also had a magic NFS that converted UIDs to Kerberos identities. The identity information would be pulled out of the HS-class DNS records and used to synthesize a local account. At least, this is what I heard via Derrick Brashear . :) This gets around the 32k user limit on some older UNIX machines, and helps in that you don't have to redo a pwd_mkdb on ten thousand users each time a small change occurs. I may have a severe misconception as to how this works, of course, but it seems pretty novel. Robert N Watson ---- Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ Trusted Information Systems http://www.tis.com/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 17:30:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21216 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:30:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21173 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:30:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05178; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:25:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199804030125.RAA05178@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "James A. Mutter" cc: Nate Williams , Travis Mikalson , Craig Wilson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USER PPP Slowness In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:14:19 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:25:15 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > Actually I have yet to see a v.34(+) modem that wouldn't train back up. > > > USR Sportsters, Supras, Cardinals.. under $70 28.8/33.6 no-name > > > modems.. > > > > None of them train back up. Read the documentation again. That's one > > of the big selling features of the 'higher-end' modems, since almost all > > low-end modems could easily do that. > > > > > I don't think that's true anymore. I believe that they fixed that problem > ( not training back up ) years ago. My $65.00 33.6 does a fine job, it > goes down, it goes up, no problems at all. I've also observed generic Rockwell-based modems 'falling forward'. 99% of the no-name modems out there are a relayout of the Rockwell evaluation kit to suit the desired case shape and manufacturing cost, with nominal or no changes to the sample firmware. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 19:11:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05158 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.kersur.net (root@mail.kersur.net [199.79.199.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05115 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:11:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dswartz@druber.com) Received: from manticore (manticore.druber.com [207.180.95.108]) by mail.kersur.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA26181; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:12:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980402221117.0091e2a0@mail.kersur.net> X-Sender: druber@mail.kersur.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:11:17 -0500 To: Kevin Street From: Dan Swartzendruber Subject: Re: unusual dump problem Cc: Jay Richmond , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <13604.8200.542586.473773@kstreet.interlog.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk No, his problem was a login.conf issue - the cron job runs in the default class (I think) since it wasn't specifically defined to be in the root class. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 21:44:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22045 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:44:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22035 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (1PzAlc0QUANwS5PCmIt59WjJ3Oaxa+4o@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03698; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:43:56 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (3Nkls/iIbOPX+kedB0mkX40v5XKcMZxY@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24161; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:43:49 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199804030543.HAA24161@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Robert Watson cc: Charles Quarri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 07:43:43 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Robert Watson wrote: > To make Hesiod secure, you need secure name service. I understand that > MIT implemented a kerberized DNS query of some kind -- this is not > scalable, of course. DNSsec should provide a nice architecture for > handling this kind of thing. See also draft-ietf-dnssec-ar-00.txt for > some thoughts on how to handle authentication in the context of DNSsec, > and assigning identities to DNS names. To make Hesiod secure, you should not use it to distribute passwords (encrypted or not). That is what Kerberos is for. One of the things I have picked up in 48 hours of research. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 22:57:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02474 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:57:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02458 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:57:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id BAA14842; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:56:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:56:52 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Mark Murray cc: Charles Quarri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199804030543.HAA24161@greenpeace.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Mark Murray wrote: > To make Hesiod secure, you should not use it to distribute passwords > (encrypted or not). That is what Kerberos is for. One of the things I > have picked up in 48 hours of research. Well, I actually did not intend to, nor was it my understanding that that was MIT's intent on writing it. They intended it as a directory service for typical UNIX config files (such as /etc/hosts) and user information (such as /etc/passwd, /etc/group). Toehold would dynamically create accounts on the machine, assigning them uids as appropriate, and use Kerberos to authenticate the user. However, the ability to specify passwd entries + group entries + hosts entries, etc, could be used to attack a machine in an insecure DNS arrangement. As I understand it, MIT then implemented kerberized DNS queries -- securing communication between the resolver and the server using rcmd entries and krb_mkpriv. This is not equivilent to DNSsec, which digitally signs the DNS data, rather than the transport. Robert N Watson ---- Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ Trusted Information Systems http://www.tis.com/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 2 23:22:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07660 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:22:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07621; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:22:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13321; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:22:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804030722.CAA13321@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: swap-leak in 2.2.5 ? In-Reply-To: <199804012212.OAA07880@implode.root.com> from David Greenman at "Apr 1, 98 02:12:28 pm" To: dg@root.com Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:22:05 -0500 (EST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >In article <657.891465523.kithrup.freebsd.current@critter.freebsd.dk> you write: > >>The problem is, the kernel cannot account for the twohundred som Mbyte > >>of swap space it claims is in use. Even if I kill all processes the > >>number doesn't decrease significantly :-( > > > >There is something wrong with -stable. I reported this to John about a month > >ago, maybe two (I forget exactly). > > > >I noticed it when I upgraded from 32MBytes to 96MBytes of RAM; my swap usage, > >instead of going down, went drastically up. > > > >I am pretty sure it is related to MFS in my case; I was unable to see an MFS > >process in PHK's ps listing. > > > >Right now, I am at: > > > >Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type > >/dev/sd0s1b 131072 4448 126560 3% Interleaved > >/dev/sd1s1b 131072 4408 126600 3% Interleaved > >Total 262016 8856 253160 3% > > > >I'm sorry, but with 96MBytes of RAM, there is no reason for my system to swap, > >given what it does. And that amount will slowly grow; when I rebooted for the > >OS upgrade on Saturday, it was at 39MBytes or so (MFS is 32MBytes on my > >system). > > > >However: when I shut down to single user mode, it dropped down to about > >100Kbytes in use. > > > >So, I think there's a leak, but I'm not sure *where* it is. Or perhaps it's > >just bad swap usage by the kernel. > > FreeBSD will slowly page infrequently used pages out in favor of file > caching, and 8MB (or 32+8) is about what you'd expect to see in this case. > Poul's problem seems to be different, however. > Chiming in on DG: which would you want: 1) a bunch of initialization code or data for a bunch of processes. 2) cache space for data that will be more often used? We chose (2) as the correct strategy. If you choose (1) and want to keep the from now-on unused initialization code in memory forever, I simply cannot understand or agree. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 00:15:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18032 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.frihet.com (root@frihet.bayarea.net [205.219.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18018 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:15:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@ns.frihet.com) Received: from ns.frihet.com (tweten@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.frihet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01470; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:15:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@ns.frihet.com) Message-Id: <199804030815.AAA01470@ns.frihet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Craig Wilson cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USER PPP Slowness Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:15:31 -0800 From: "David E. Tweten" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk craig@natsoft.com.au said: >64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=5841.774 ms >64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=4870.321 ms >64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=3861.174 ms >64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=2860.197 ms >64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=1860.253 ms >64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=851.134 ms >64 bytes from 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=120.262 ms In the interests of adding another flavor to this thread besides "Cheep modems train up!", "No they don't!", "Yes they do!", etc., let me observe that the round trip times on the first 6 of Craig's pings differ by almost exactly a second. That tells me he just has a noisy line, or a pair of modems that haven't re-negotiated recently enough. They retried an unsuccessful transmission for a bit more than 5 seconds before they finally passed 6 pings at once. His ping performance was slow due to modem-to-modem retries, not due to reduced bandwidth on successful transmissions. -- David E. Tweten | 2047-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@frihet.com 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 Those who make good products sell products; those who don't, sell solutions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 01:18:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA01617 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:18:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sensi.pu.ru (sensi.pu.ru [194.58.105.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01535 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:18:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vadik@sensi.pu.ru) Received: (from vadik@localhost) by sensi.pu.ru (8.8.8/8.7.3) id NAA03107; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:18:44 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <19980403131844.43306@sensi.org> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:18:44 +0400 From: vadik likholetov To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: tx driver in 10Mbit/UTP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e X-NCC-RegID: ru.hqlgu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hi! The famous tx SMC ethernet dirver do not work in 10Mbit mode. :-( It even does not give any sort of diagnostics.... It just hangs (interruptable with ctrl-break) doing ioctl call.. What a pity :-( Any suggessions? -- vadik likholetov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 01:45:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA05838 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05826 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12397; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:32:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: vadik likholetov cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tx driver in 10Mbit/UTP In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Apr 1998 13:18:44 +0400." <19980403131844.43306@sensi.org> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 01:32:08 -0800 Message-ID: <12392.891595928@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk That's news to me - we're using it in several machines at 10Mbit? > hi! > > The famous tx SMC ethernet dirver do not work in 10Mbit mode. :-( > It even does not give any sort of diagnostics.... It just hangs > (interruptable with ctrl-break) doing ioctl call.. > What a pity :-( > > Any suggessions? > > -- > vadik likholetov > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 04:37:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25338 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 04:37:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25328 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 04:37:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21019 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:37:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980403073657.49439@marso.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:36:58 -0500 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.6 make world fails => lfs_cksum.c. Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk 2.2.6 cvsup'd 10pm last night. Is this a flaw in the sources? Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com > make world [...] ===> libexec/getty rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /jaz/src_stable/libexec/getty/main.c /jaz/src_stable/libexec/getty/init.c /jaz/src_stable/libexec/getty/subr.c /jaz/src_stable/libexec/getty/chat.c ===> libexec/lfs_cleanerd make: don't know how to make lfs_cksum.c. Stop *** Error code 2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 04:49:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26845 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 04:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26832 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 04:49:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21487 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:49:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from larry) Message-ID: <19980403074858.58653@marso.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:48:58 -0500 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 make world fails => lfs_cksum.c. Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <19980403073657.49439@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980403073657.49439@marso.com>; from Larry S. Marso on Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 07:36:58AM -0500 x-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk By the way, note that I've placed the sources on a remote drive, which I'm accessing via nfs. I've created symbolic links to all /usr/src directories except /usr/src/sys, which I keep locally. The translations *seem* to be done right... Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 07:36:58AM -0500, Larry S. Marso wrote: > 2.2.6 cvsup'd 10pm last night. > > Is this a flaw in the sources? > > Best regards > -- > Larry S. Marso > larry@marso.com > > > make world > > [...] > > ===> libexec/getty > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include > /jaz/src_stable/libexec/getty/main.c /jaz/src_stable/libexec/getty/init.c > /jaz/src_stable/libexec/getty/subr.c /jaz/src_stable/libexec/getty/chat.c > ===> libexec/lfs_cleanerd > make: don't know how to make lfs_cksum.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 11:03:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23711 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:03:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23696 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:02:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA25078; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:20:01 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:20:01 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: Robert Watson cc: Charles Quarri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Robert Watson wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Narvi wrote: > > > > I am curious is anyone has used hesiod in FreeBSD 2.2 and how > > > much modification needs to be made to the source (if any) needs > > > to be done to get it working. > > > > I have looked at the source (still have it unpacked), but I didn't do > > anything much with it. Would be cool if FreeBSD had an option like > > "MAKE_KERBEROS4" which would build all utilities (w, ps, etc.) with full > > hesiod support... > > I was under the impression that Hesiod did not require w/ps/etc to be > recompiled due to toehold, or was that an MIT-only thing? I thought they I have not seen toehold anywhere... And somewho w, ps, ls, etc. have to be told to talk to hesiod to get the uid<->name mappings. > dynamically allocated UIDs when the user logged in (this was the toehold > step), and added them to passwd, etc. They also had a magic NFS that > converted UIDs to Kerberos identities. The identity information would be > pulled out of the HS-class DNS records and used to synthesize a local > account. At least, this is what I heard via Derrick Brashear > . :) And this all would certainly be hyper cool. But I doubt this all is available in the hesiod distribution. > > This gets around the 32k user limit on some older UNIX machines, and helps > in that you don't have to redo a pwd_mkdb on ten thousand users each time > a small change occurs. > > I may have a severe misconception as to how this works, of course, but it > seems pretty novel. > > Robert N Watson > Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. > > ---- > Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ > Trusted Information Systems http://www.tis.com/ > SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ > robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 11:22:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28574 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27656 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA23438; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:17:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:17:40 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Narvi cc: Charles Quarri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Narvi wrote: > > I was under the impression that Hesiod did not require w/ps/etc to be > > recompiled due to toehold, or was that an MIT-only thing? I thought they > > I have not seen toehold anywhere... And somewho w, ps, ls, etc. have to be > told to talk to hesiod to get the uid<->name mappings. Well, toehold would install all relevant mappings in /etc/passwd, and then w/ps/ls just use the standard getpwent-style calls to access the data. > > dynamically allocated UIDs when the user logged in (this was the toehold > > step), and added them to passwd, etc. They also had a magic NFS that > > converted UIDs to Kerberos identities. The identity information would be > > pulled out of the HS-class DNS records and used to synthesize a local > > account. At least, this is what I heard via Derrick Brashear > > . :) > > And this all would certainly be hyper cool. But I doubt this all is > available in the hesiod distribution. It sounded fairly spiffy to me. The only mention I have found of toehold in the standard Kerberos release is in KERBEROS(1) where it indicates that a ticket might be provided by toehold or by kinit. One could thing that could be done with PAM (if we had PAM or friends) would be to have the PAM module dynamically create the account as described and perform the toehold activities of choice. Indeed, I also doubt that it is in the standard Hesiod system :). I have not looked at the hesiod distribution recently -- I'll grab a copy this afternoon and take a look. Some have suggested using LDAP for distributing this kind of information, but I personally like the idea of DNS used in this manner -- with security, this becomes quite feasible. There is significant oposition to storing this kind of information in DNS in a number of the groups working with DNS. The feeling is that another service should be used for this. I'm caught between agreeing that this may be beyond the scope of DNS, and also noting that DNS provides an excellent distribution mechanism, with security, etc, for this information. Given that DNSsec provides an excellent public key distribution system, I lean towards storing authentication-related data there. Robert N Watson ---- Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ Trusted Information Systems http://www.tis.com/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 14:19:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16575 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:19:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16492 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:19:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from softweyr@xmission.xmission.com) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) id PAA17773; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:19:16 -0700 (MST) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199804032219.PAA17773@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 To: robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:19:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Robert Watson" at Apr 3, 98 02:17:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Robert N Watson > ... Some have suggested using LDAP for > distributing this kind of information, but I personally like the idea of > DNS used in this manner -- with security, this becomes quite feasible. > There is significant oposition to storing this kind of information in DNS > in a number of the groups working with DNS. The feeling is that another > service should be used for this. I'm caught between agreeing that this > may be beyond the scope of DNS, and also noting that DNS provides an > excellent distribution mechanism, with security, etc, for this > information. Given that DNSsec provides an excellent public key > distribution system, I lean towards storing authentication-related data > there. DNS wasn't really designed with a highly volatile dataset in mind. If it takes a day or two for the existence of a new workstation to trickle across the net, that's generally not too bad, but if it takes a day or two for my new password to trickle across the net, I cannot reliably predict if I can login or not. You can, of course, fix this problem by using short expirations on the zone your login information is stored in, but that doesn't change the basic design limitation. I designed a system like this once for Raxco Software; it would allow you to define users and groups, and define any user account or group of users on domains of systems. I thought our design was pretty realistic, but they decided Novell NDS was going to win the world of directory services and canned the project. I quit, and 6 months later Novell canned NDS for Unix. You never know if a design will really work, but our flood-fill algorithmn designed back then still lives on in Axent Enterprise Security Manager, the one remaining product from that group. I still think it will work, and if you've got a couple hundred thousand dollars, I'll prove it. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 14:58:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23102 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:58:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23091 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA26769; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:57:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:57:29 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199804032219.PAA17773@xmission.xmission.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC wrote: > DNS wasn't really designed with a highly volatile dataset in mind. If > it takes a day or two for the existence of a new workstation to trickle > across the net, that's generally not too bad, but if it takes a day or > two for my new password to trickle across the net, I cannot reliably > predict if I can login or not. However, password support in Athena was designed to be distributed using Kerberos, not Hesiod. In a large system, a lag-time of a day for account creation across 5,000 workstations is not so bad. Robert N Watson ---- Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ Trusted Information Systems http://www.tis.com/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 15:02:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24215 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kstreet.interlog.com (kws@kstreet.interlog.com [198.53.146.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24195 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:02:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kws@kstreet.interlog.com) Received: (from kws@localhost) by kstreet.interlog.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22869; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:02:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) From: Kevin Street MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:02:27 -0500 (EST) To: Dan Swartzendruber Cc: Kevin Street , Jay Richmond , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: unusual dump problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980402221117.0091e2a0@mail.kersur.net> References: <13604.8200.542586.473773@kstreet.interlog.com> <3.0.5.32.19980402221117.0091e2a0@mail.kersur.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13605.26934.832701.993968@kstreet.interlog.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Dan Swartzendruber writes: > >No, his problem was a login.conf issue - the cron job runs in the >default class (I think) since it wasn't specifically defined to be >in the root class. Yes, I saw the answer from Jay after I sent my note. Mine turned out to be login.conf issue as well. I'd never thought about the difference between su (even su -m) and sudo in terms of who's login.conf resource entries get used (root's for su, mine for sudo). -- Kevin Street street@iName.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 3 16:01:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00836 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00814 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:01:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from softweyr@xmission.xmission.com) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) id RAA07877; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:01:39 -0700 (MST) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199804040001.RAA07877@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 To: robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:01:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Robert Watson" at Apr 3, 98 05:57:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC wrote: > > > DNS wasn't really designed with a highly volatile dataset in mind. If > > it takes a day or two for the existence of a new workstation to trickle > > across the net, that's generally not too bad, but if it takes a day or > > two for my new password to trickle across the net, I cannot reliably > > predict if I can login or not. > > However, password support in Athena was designed to be distributed using > Kerberos, not Hesiod. In a large system, a lag-time of a day for account > creation across 5,000 workstations is not so bad. One of the customers that drove the design of the system I worked on was a large automotive design department*. They had 20,000 workstations and 2,000 servers, and wanted user account changes propagated to the user's "home" domain within one minute, and all domains the user was defined on in 15 minutes (assuming no connectivity interruptions). New account creations had to be filled within 5 minutes and one hour, respectively. Given the performance our "job starter" in STK experienced in this same setting, I think we could have done it. This was a cool tool to work on, it's too bad the company didn't have the vision to complete it. Imagine creating a new user in the 'accounting' work group by saying the equivalent of "new user 'shelley' is just like 'stacey', except her name is 'Shelly Beancounter' and her extension is 4073." Her account is automgically created on all systems that Staceys is defined on, with identical access hours, quotas, etc. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 01:44:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22967 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.delta.edu (alpha.delta.edu [161.133.129.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA22961 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dakott@alpha.delta.edu) Received: from pm343-41.dialip.mich.net by alpha.delta.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/06Jan97-0932AM) id AA20457; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 04:46:52 -0500 Received: from kott.my.domain (dakott@kott.my.domain [192.168.0.1]) by kott.my.domain (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20319; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:44:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:44:51 -0500 (EST) From: David Kott To: David Kelly Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stuck console In-Reply-To: <199803311457.IAA26168@PeeCee.tbe.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, David Kelly wrote: > On exit from X last night my vty console did not recover. Normally I login > via vty0 and launch startx. Am running the XF86_Mach64 server. > > Today, I telent'ed in from another system and launched startx. So for now > I'm functioning without having to reboot. Alt-F[1-4] do nothing. The > Scroll Lock key does nothing. Any way to reset the text console? > > PeeCee: {1003} uptime > 8:53AM up 53 days, 22 hrs, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 > PeeCee: {1004} uname -a > FreeBSD PeeCee.tbe.com 2.2.5-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Thu Feb 5 09:24:45 CST 1998 root@PeeCee.tbe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PEECEE i386 > PeeCee: {1005} > I can repeatedly lock up my virtual terminals by attempting to switch to them WHILE XFree86 is in the process of shutting down. Is this what you did? I have not found a way to recover from this, and have always had to reboot. I just avoid the problem now by NOT changing terminals whilst XFree is shutting down. -d To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 06:46:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22707 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:46:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sensi.pu.ru (sensi.pu.ru [194.58.105.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22699 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:46:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vadik@sensi.pu.ru) Received: (from vadik@localhost) by sensi.pu.ru (8.8.8/8.7.3) id SAA00769; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 18:46:31 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <19980404184630.08369@sensi.org> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 18:46:30 +0400 From: vadik likholetov To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tx driver in 10Mbit/UTP References: <19980403131844.43306@sensi.org> <12392.891595928@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <12392.891595928@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 01:32:08AM -0800 X-NCC-RegID: ru.hqlgu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 01:32:08AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > That's news to me - we're using it in several machines at 10Mbit? > > > The famous tx SMC ethernet dirver do not work in 10Mbit mode. :-( > > It even does not give any sort of diagnostics.... It just hangs > > (interruptable with ctrl-break) doing ioctl call.. > > What a pity :-( I was to lazy to wait for a long delay in bootfloppie's sysinstall... Everything works fine. Thanks! -- vadik likholetov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 08:35:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05491 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-04.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05482 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:35:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04597; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:34:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:34:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199804041634.IAA04597@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: dakott@alpha.delta.edu CC: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from David Kott on Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:44:51 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: stuck console Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I experience the same problem with X. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #4: Tue Mar 10 15:30:47 PST 1998 XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: Jun 2 1997 tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 11:18:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29480 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:18:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29435 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:18:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yLYS6-0002c3-00; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:18:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:18:04 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC cc: robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hesiod support on 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199804032219.PAA17773@xmission.xmission.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC wrote: > DNS wasn't really designed with a highly volatile dataset in mind. If > it takes a day or two for the existence of a new workstation to trickle No. New records are available immediately. If someone has looked up the record before it was added, there may be some negative cache entries around which will expire in 10 minutes. > across the net, that's generally not too bad, but if it takes a day or > two for my new password to trickle across the net, I cannot reliably > predict if I can login or not. This would involve changing an existing entry, not adding a new entry. This is rather different, because previous version(s) of the record can be cached. > You can, of course, fix this problem by using short expirations on the > zone your login information is stored in, but that doesn't change the > basic design limitation. NOTIFY support in BIND 8.1 helps a lot. Secondaries update immediately now. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 12:44:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06737 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:44:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from homer.supersex.com (homer.supersex.com [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06701 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leo@homer.supersex.com) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.supersex.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA07805; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:44:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980404154434.51170@supersex.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:44:34 -0500 From: Leo Papandreou To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stuck console References: <199803311457.IAA26168@PeeCee.tbe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from David Kott on Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 06:44:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 06:44:51PM -0500, David Kott wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, David Kelly wrote: > > > On exit from X last night my vty console did not recover. Normally I login > > via vty0 and launch startx. Am running the XF86_Mach64 server. > > > > Today, I telent'ed in from another system and launched startx. So for now > > I'm functioning without having to reboot. Alt-F[1-4] do nothing. The > > Scroll Lock key does nothing. Any way to reset the text console? > > Terminal lockups have happened to me on every version since 2.1 X or no X. I've always telneted in from another machine and run setcon to regain control. See http://www.awfulhak.demon.co.uk/software.html *Very* useful little program. > > PeeCee: {1003} uptime > > 8:53AM up 53 days, 22 hrs, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 > > PeeCee: {1004} uname -a > > FreeBSD PeeCee.tbe.com 2.2.5-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Thu Feb 5 09:24:45 CST 1998 root@PeeCee.tbe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PEECEE i386 > > PeeCee: {1005} > > > > I can repeatedly lock up my virtual terminals by attempting to switch to > them WHILE XFree86 is in the process of shutting down. Is this what you > did? I have not found a way to recover from this, and have always had to > reboot. I just avoid the problem now by NOT changing terminals whilst > XFree is shutting down. > > > -d > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 14:32:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18113 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:32:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18108 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 17813 invoked by uid 1017); 4 Apr 1998 22:30:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:30:03 -0700 (MST) From: Atipa To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: sh MAKEDEV sd0 does not make slices Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I did a make world after a CVSup, and knew to change my /etc/fstab. However, there was no slice for my disk (should be /dev/sd0s1a). I did a: # sh MAKEDEV all and it made sd0s1, but no sd0s1a, sd0s1b, etc., etc. I did a # sh MAKEDEV sd0s1a and it made everything, but I think that should be done automatically by either MAKEDEV sd0 or MAKEDEV all. These instructions should also be placed on the Errata page, since it does not mention the possibility of the correct slice not existing. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 16:14:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27406 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 16:14:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27248 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 16:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA14733; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 21:18:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199804042018.VAA14733@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Dexnation Holodream cc: Edwin Culp , Bill Trost , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:59:40 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 21:18:25 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Sorry for not jumping in sooner - I've been away. There are bits in the man page under the `set ifaddr' and `add' command descriptions that explain this behaviour. You're missing the `delete all, add 0 0 HISADDR' in ppp.linkup. ^^^^^^^^^^ In auto mode, it's necessary in *both* ppp.conf and ppp.linkup. If you enable command logging, you'll see when your commands get executed. > it's still not working :( > > for some reason it refuses to change the default route > > oh, well...gotta figure it out some more ;P~ > > -Jon > > On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Edwin Culp wrote: > > > I'm sending you mine, including the default section to see if there is > > a difference. I start it with ppp -ddial -proxy telmex. > > > > Suerte y provecho, > > > > ed > > > > > > default: > > > set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier LCP IPCP CCP tun command > > > set device /dev/cuaa0 > > > set speed 115200 > > > disable lqr > > > deny lqr > > > set ctsrts on > > > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 10 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > > > > > > telmex: > > > set phone 890222 > > > set mtu 814 > > > set login "TIMEOUT 45 ame:-\\r-ame: monopolio word: adivina_quien uninet> ppp" > > > set timeout 120 > > > set redial 30 5000 > > > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > > > delete ALL > > > add 0 0 HISADDR > > The automatic asignation of both my ip and the default work fine :-) -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 23:18:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05879 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:18:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.frihet.com (root@frihet.bayarea.net [205.219.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05814; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@ns.frihet.com) Received: from ns.frihet.com (tweten@localhost.frihet.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.frihet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01331; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:17:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@ns.frihet.com) Message-Id: <199804050717.XAA01331@ns.frihet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.6, utmp, wtmp, and xterm From: "David E. Tweten" Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 23:17:48 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I first noticed this in 2.2.6-BETA, unfortunately not until after the release. I've since confirmed it with -stable from just a few days ago. The problem's most likely in XFree86 3.3.2, but I can't be sure since I no longer have any machines that run anything before XFree86 3.3.2 and post-2.2.6 FreeBSD. I'm hoping this question will save me having to debug xterm. The presenting symptom is who(1) lists pseudo-terminals as active that are long since gone. I populate most xterms with a login shell. It only happens with ptys that have been used by xterm. Rlogind ptys are okay; so are vtys. Both /var/run/utmp and /var/log/wtmp claim any pty that ever supported an xterm is still logged in. Run a last(1) on my machine, and you'll see the only way an xterm ever gets terminated is by "shutdown". Of course, that's not true. They terminate quite nicely, requiring only that "logout" be typed at csh. Explicitly setting xterm*utmpInhibit: false in my .Xresources file changed nothing, so it doesn't seem to be a problem external to xterm. Does this look familiar to anyone, or should I start debugging xterm? I couldn't find anything about this at the FreeBSD archives (particularly in the gnats search). Any help would be appreciated. -- David E. Tweten | 2047-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@frihet.com 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 Those who make good products sell products; those who don't, sell solutions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 4 23:58:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11165 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11076; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:58:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from localhost by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24029) with SMTP id <0EQX00301KTBWI@jaguar.ir.miami.edu>; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 03:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 03:58:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: Re: 2.2.6, utmp, wtmp, and xterm In-reply-to: <199804050717.XAA01331@ns.frihet.com> To: "David E. Tweten" Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I noticed the same problem. I even recompiled XFree86-3.3.2. I also tested it with a variety of window managers and terminals. Eterm seems to be affected as well. I'm sort of leaning towards a bug in X myself, as telnet etc. work fine. Joe Clarke On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, David E. Tweten wrote: > I first noticed this in 2.2.6-BETA, unfortunately not until after the > release. I've since confirmed it with -stable from just a few days ago. The > problem's most likely in XFree86 3.3.2, but I can't be sure since I no longer > have any machines that run anything before XFree86 3.3.2 and post-2.2.6 > FreeBSD. I'm hoping this question will save me having to debug xterm. > > The presenting symptom is who(1) lists pseudo-terminals as active that are > long since gone. I populate most xterms with a login shell. It only happens > with ptys that have been used by xterm. Rlogind ptys are okay; so are vtys. > Both /var/run/utmp and /var/log/wtmp claim any pty that ever supported an > xterm is still logged in. Run a last(1) on my machine, and you'll see the > only way an xterm ever gets terminated is by "shutdown". Of course, that's > not true. They terminate quite nicely, requiring only that "logout" be typed > at csh. > > Explicitly setting > > xterm*utmpInhibit: false > > in my .Xresources file changed nothing, so it doesn't seem to be a problem > external to xterm. > > Does this look familiar to anyone, or should I start debugging xterm? I > couldn't find anything about this at the FreeBSD archives (particularly in > the gnats search). Any help would be appreciated. > -- > David E. Tweten | 2047-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@frihet.com > 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com > Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 > Those who make good products sell products; those who don't, sell solutions. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message