From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 03:40:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02606 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 03:40:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obsidian.noc.dfn.de (obsidian.noc.dfn.de [193.174.247.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02587; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 03:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@obsidian.noc.dfn.de) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by obsidian.noc.dfn.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA17606; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:40:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jens Schweikhardt Message-Id: <199809061040.MAA17606@obsidian.noc.dfn.de> Subject: Re: Where can I find C To: cyouse@artemis.syncom.net (Charles Youse) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:40:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: syko@sykotik.org, scott@iprg.nokia.com, daniel@cooltime.simplenet.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Charles Youse" at Sep 5, 98 08:43:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, world\n # Nah, it'll draw a warning, perhaps .... but this is perfectly legal C. What did you smoke tonight? :-) You call a variadic function with no prototype in scope which leads to undefined behaviour as per ISO 9899:1990 This bombs as soon as the representation of int and char * are different or if there are different passing mechanisms for those types. Now back to our regularly scheduled -stable discussions. Note that only the spelling of hello, world\n as above is correct :-) # On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Dusk Auriel Sykotik wrote: # > You can't use printf(), you didn't include stdio.h :) # # > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Scott Sewall wrote: # > > main () { # > > printf("Hello World!\n"); # > > } Regards, -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.shuttle.de/schweikh/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 04:00:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05344 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 04:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kinetic.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (NAFp2-096.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.23.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05338 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 04:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kinetic.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA02501 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:51:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gcc, global register variables and __sputc Reply-To: marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.34 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980906125125F.marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 12:51:25 +0200 From: Marko Schuetz X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 12 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG __sputc is defined as an inline function in stdio.h if __GNUC__ and __STDC__ are defined. gcc complains when compiling source that tries to use global register variables that there is a function definition before the definition of the global register variable. I looked at stdio.h and found the alternative definition of __sputc to be defined as a macro. I added a !defined(__USE_GLOBAL_REGISTER_VARIABLES__) to the condition for using the function definition for __sputc. Should something like this be added to -stable or are there reasons against this that I do not see? Marko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 06:56:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19496 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 06:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19490 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 06:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id GAA28481; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 06:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdc28473; Sun Sep 6 06:54:59 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) id GAA00979; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 06:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809061354.GAA00979@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdZAC967; Sun Sep 6 06:53:58 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cy To: Mike Smith cc: andrew@squiz.co.nz, Tom , The Hermit Hacker , Bob K , The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Sep 1998 10:11:15 PDT." <199809051711.KAA05862@word.smith.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:53:54 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > between sysctl and login.conf, either can be set without a rebuild. > > No. The kern.maxfiles sysctl shouldn't be writable in 2.2, and it's > not writable in 3.0; it refers to the size of a static table. I've been setting kern.maxfiles on 2.2 systems for well over a year, possibly even two years. It seems like it would be a step backwards for 3.0 to require a kernel rebuild to set this value. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Government of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 07:18:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21233 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 07:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bolide.adhoc.net (bolide.adhoc.net [195.103.67.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21203 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 07:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pizzi@adhoc.net) Received: (from pizzi@localhost) by bolide.adhoc.net (8.9.1(PIZZI)/Ad-Hoc) id QAA27741 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:15:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Riccardo Pizzi Message-Id: <199809061415.QAA27741@bolide.adhoc.net> Subject: panic: brelse: free buffer onto anothe queue? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:15:51 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL44 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am getting several of those a week and the machine hangs in the syncing disks... phase (does not reboot!) Anyone with the same problem? Running 2.2.7-19980830-SNAP on a PII/300, 256 RAM 5x4.5 SCSI3 (ahc) (I only run squid cache on this machine) Thanks Rick -- +--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Riccardo Pizzi | AD HOC Network srl | | System Administrator | Internet Service Provider | | UNIX Geek wannabe | Rimini, ITALY | +--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | GEEK CODE BLOCK Version: 3.1 | | GCS/CC/IT d- s++:- a C++ UBS++++ P- L+ !E--- W+$ N++$ !o K-? !w-- !O---- !M- | | V-- PS? PE Y+ !PGP- !t--- 5? X- !R tv-? b DI-? !D--- G e h++ r++ y++** | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 09:20:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29606 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beatrice.rutgers.edu (beatrice.rutgers.edu [165.230.209.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29591 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 09:20:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu) Received: (from easmith@localhost) by beatrice.rutgers.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id MAA08828; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:20:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Allen Smith" Message-Id: <9809061220.ZM8826@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:20:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Chad R. Larson" "Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver" (Sep 1, 12:38am) References: <199809010422.VAA18744@freebie.dcfinc.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sep 1, 12:38am, Chad R. Larson (possibly) wrote: > > This was done as part of the announcement. It's also in the commit > > logs, which are the authoratative reference. > > > > Tracking either -stable or -current without reading the logs is like > > anything else your mother warned you about. > > This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. > > I've read (and agree) that tracking -stable without subscribing to the > stable mailing list is asking for whatever you get. I'd never heard a > requirement for reading the CVS logs before. If such is to be considered a possible part of the responsibilities... might I suggest the creation of some CVS lists that are specifically filtered for only RELENG_2_2 messages? Sure, people can do it themselves (if we can get the blasted procmail regexps to work right - give me Perl any day...), but that'll save on unnecessary bandwidth wastage from sending out messages that will just get deleted. -Allen -- Allen Smith easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 09:40:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01693 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 09:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01661 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 09:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.7]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02501; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 17:14:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woof.lan.awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07106; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:59:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199809061559.QAA07106@woof.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group cc: Mike Smith , andrew@squiz.co.nz, Tom , The Hermit Hacker , Bob K , The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:53:54 PDT." <199809061354.GAA00979@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 16:58:58 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > between sysctl and login.conf, either can be set without a rebuild. > > > > No. The kern.maxfiles sysctl shouldn't be writable in 2.2, and it's > > not writable in 3.0; it refers to the size of a static table. > > I've been setting kern.maxfiles on 2.2 systems for well over a year, > possibly even two years. It seems like it would be a step backwards > for 3.0 to require a kernel rebuild to set this value. Indeed: woof:/usr/src $ uname -a FreeBSD woof.lan.awfulhak.org 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #17: Sat Sep 5 03:02:51 BST 1998 brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/WOOF i386 woof:/usr/src $ fgrep maxusers /sys/i386/conf/WOOF maxusers 15 woof:/usr/src $ cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/0000files.sh #! /bin/sh echo -n ' maxfiles'; sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=2048 sysctl -w kern.maxfilesperproc=128 woof:/usr/src $ pstat -T 136/2048 files 30M/199M swap space > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Open Systems Group Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca > ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca > Government of BC -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 11:44:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12896 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles157.castles.com [208.214.165.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12802 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:43:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09624; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:48:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809061848.LAA09624@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group cc: Mike Smith , andrew@squiz.co.nz, Tom , The Hermit Hacker , Bob K , The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:53:54 PDT." <199809061354.GAA00979@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:48:51 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > between sysctl and login.conf, either can be set without a rebuild. > > > > No. The kern.maxfiles sysctl shouldn't be writable in 2.2, and it's > > not writable in 3.0; it refers to the size of a static table. > > I've been setting kern.maxfiles on 2.2 systems for well over a year, > possibly even two years. It seems like it would be a step backwards > for 3.0 to require a kernel rebuild to set this value. Bleagh. I appear to have come unstuck somewhere; 'maxfiles' doesn't refer to a static table, and kern.maxfiles is still writable. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 15:38:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07776 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:38:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07769 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40332>; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:37:32 +1000 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:37:52 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: kernel PPS line discipline for NTP To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: bm@malepartus.de Message-Id: <98Sep7.083732est.40332@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Burkard Meyendriesch writes: >I'm trying to install a NTP pulse per second suport on my FreeBSD-2.2.7 >Can anybody of you give me a hint for installing a timestamp line >discipline on FreeBSD? There is an undocumented ioctl that will do almost what you want (assuming your PPS signal is tied to DCD on a serial port): struct timeval tv; ioctl(fd, TIOCDCDTIMESTAMP, &tv); This will enable the capture of, and report the time of the last inactive -> active DCD edge on the serial port. (There's also TIOCTIMESTAMP, which timestamps received characters). Note that the ppbus parallel port driver in -current includes similar functionality. The reason I say `almost' is that: 1) Since both the 16[45]50 and the code treat DCD transitions as a low priority, there will be a substantial amount of jitter on the timestamps. On a 486DX2/50, interrupt latencies are typically ~12usec (peaking to ~50usec) for the clock interrupt. The SIO interrupts are likely to be somewhat worse (because they are masked more frequently). Once the interrupt is recognized, the DCD transition isn't noted until after any received characters are processed. 2) The code does not include the hooks to call hardpps(), so the PPS signal can't be used to directly discipline the kernel PLL. This may or may not be an issue for you. I have patched sio.c on 2.2.6 to support a PPS signal,whilst minimising the jitter within the sio interrupt handler and including a call to hardpps(). The changed in 2.2.7 are fairly minor, so the patch should apply fairly cleanly. Let me know if you're interested. I'm also looking at a solution to compensate for interrupt latencies, but that will require additional hardware and a bi-directional parallel port. Peter -- Peter Jeremy (VK2PJ) peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Alcatel Australia Limited 41 Mandible St Phone: +61 2 9690 5019 ALEXANDRIA NSW 2015 Fax: +61 2 9690 5247 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 17:00:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13526 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 17:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13517 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 17:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au) From: Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA03415 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:00:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(192.3.1.21) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma003397; Mon, 7 Sep 98 09:59:52 +1000 Received: by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 4A256678.00001259 ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:00:46 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <4A256677.00831072.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:58:45 +1000 Subject: fsck problem with ccd partitions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've got 2 9gb Barracudas striped using ccd on a 2.2.7-STABLE (built from last Friday's sources). When booting it stops with; cannot alloc 8309762 bytes for lncntp /dev/rccd0c: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. /dev/rccd0c: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. I then "fsck /dev/rccd0c", which works fine, do a "mount -a" and exit the shell so the system keeps booting. Immediately after I hit "d" I get; "ccdconfig: open: /dev/ccd0c: Device Busy" and the boot then runs and ends fine... Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening? Thanks, Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 18:26:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22033 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 18:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22027 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 18:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zFq4c-0004ce-00; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 18:26:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 18:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fsck problem with ccd partitions In-Reply-To: <4A256677.00831072.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Sep 1998 Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au wrote: > Hi, > I've got 2 9gb Barracudas striped using ccd on a 2.2.7-STABLE (built from > last Friday's sources). > > When booting it stops with; > > cannot alloc 8309762 bytes for lncntp > /dev/rccd0c: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. > /dev/rccd0c: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. You must increase the memory limits for the "daemon" class in /etc/login.conf This is an FAQ. Search for the string "bytes for lncntp" in the archives. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 20:18:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04572 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:18:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp4.nwnexus.com (smtp4.nwnexus.com [206.63.63.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04560 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrsomsky@halcyon.com) Received: from gramarye (evt-lx100-ip14.nwnexus.net [204.57.235.14]) by smtp4.nwnexus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16576; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wrsomsky@localhost) by gramarye (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00929; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrsomsky) From: "William R. Somsky" Message-Id: <199809070313.UAA00929.gramarye.wrsomsky@halcyon.com> Subject: Re: Sound. In-Reply-To: <199809060316.FAA14949@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Sep 6, 1998 5:16:10 am" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: shyone@home.dreaming.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Sound. > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 05:16:10 +0200 (MET DST) > From: Luigi Rizzo > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, The Reality Engineer wrote: > > > > > I have managed to successfully get my SB16 AWE64 kinda working using > > > luigi's sound code + pnp, at least it is detected. :) > > > > > > However, i'm getting the following messages: > > > > > > pcm0: unit not configured, perhaps you want pcm1 ? > > > /dev/dsp: device not configured. > > > > > > What am i missing? > > > > > > > > > my dmesg is below. > > > > > > -Mit > > > > > > > Is this the answer? > > > > rm /dev/dsp /dev/dspW > > ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp > > ln -s /dev/dspW1 /dev/dspW > > and also > rm /dev/mixer /dev/audio > ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio > ln -s /dev/mixer1 /dev/mixer Hmm... perhaps it's time I submitted this proposed patch to /dev/MAKDEV: *** ./MAKEDEV Sat Aug 29 05:57:15 1998 --- ./MAKEDEV Sun Sep 6 20:04:24 1998 *************** *** 965,978 **** # 33 patmgr1 sequencer2 # ! unit=`expr $i : 'snd\(.*\)'` chr=30 # XXX write this less verbosely, like std snd_security_hole=0 # XXX umask $snd_security_hole ! if [ $unit = "0" ] ; then ln -fs mixer$unit mixer ln -fs sequencer$unit sequencer ln -fs dsp$unit dsp --- 965,979 ---- # 33 patmgr1 sequencer2 # ! unit=`expr $i : 'snd\([0-9]*\)'` ! default=`expr $i : 'snd[0-9]*\(.*\)'` chr=30 # XXX write this less verbosely, like std snd_security_hole=0 # XXX umask $snd_security_hole ! if [ "$default" = "=" ] ; then ln -fs mixer$unit mixer ln -fs sequencer$unit sequencer ln -fs dsp$unit dsp With this patch, if you 'sh MAKEDEV snd2' (or snd), you just make the mixer2, etc, devices as usual, but if you add a trailing '=', then it makes symlinks for mixer, etc, to that newly created device. So if you've got a pnp soundcard ends up as snd1, just do 'sh MAKEDEV snd1=', and the 'default' sound-device links will be made to that card. ________________________________________________________________________ William R. Somsky wrsomsky@halcyon.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 6 21:55:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14761 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:55:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (limes.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14756 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bm@Reineke.malepartus.de) Received: from kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.92]) by limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id GAA18115; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 06:54:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.92]) by limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id GAA18115; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 06:54:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Reineke.malepartus.de (reineke.malepartus.de [194.25.4.66]) by kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA15753; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 06:55:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Reineke.malepartus.de (localhost.Malepartus.de [127.0.0.1]) by Reineke.malepartus.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01651; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 06:55:30 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from bm@Reineke.malepartus.de) Message-Id: <199809070455.GAA01651@Reineke.malepartus.de> From: Burkard Meyendriesch To: Peter Jeremy cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, bm@malepartus.de Subject: Re: kernel PPS line discipline for NTP In-reply-to: Your Message from Mon, 07 Sep 1998 08:37:52 +1000. <98Sep7.083737est.40333@border.alcanet.com.au> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3 X-organization: The home of Reineke Fuchs X-GPOS: 52.0844N 7.9081E X-phone: +49 5484 96097 X-pgp-fingerprint: DF 83 04 CD B5 D1 10 43 57 4C AD 9A B1 02 28 17 X-face: "[-;]oI+8gP9>*J%knDN8d%DuhvJS2Lj4L\bRb7gz(pcT?2Zh6_Vam_6csAum3$<&lhAFd^ jt|!&Ut1C~Vg*E/q}+#cbFg-GU]c.bB8Ad,L'W$'9{^0y'AzM4#hS[C[F-1'|O;Kg3Vrq5q6dsU*TmJ@}+QPM\ b[^9Rhd,UoMpRpd5k[X=h.Dom*kbT`cNQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1648.905144128.1@Reineke.malepartus.de> Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 06:55:29 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1998-09-07 08:37:52 +1000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Burkard Meyendriesch writes: > >I'm trying to install a NTP pulse per second suport on my FreeBSD-2.2.7 > > >Can anybody of you give me a hint for installing a timestamp line > >discipline on FreeBSD? > > [...] > I have patched sio.c on 2.2.6 to support a PPS signal,whilst > minimising the jitter within the sio interrupt handler and including a > call to hardpps(). The changed in 2.2.7 are fairly minor, so the > patch should apply fairly cleanly. Let me know if you're interested. > > I'm also looking at a solution to compensate for interrupt latencies, > but that will require additional hardware and a bi-directional > parallel port. > > Peter > -- Hello Peter, thanks a lot for your description of the FreeBSD interrupt behavior and the already installed code for TIOCTIMESTAMP. Yes, I'm very interested in your sio.c patch for PPS support. Maybe it might be of interest for the rest of the group too. Burkard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 01:15:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07409 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (pppk-15.igrin.co.nz [202.49.245.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07395 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA00911; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:14:10 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:14:07 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Allen Smith cc: Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-Reply-To: <9809061220.ZM8826@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Allen Smith wrote: > > I've read (and agree) that tracking -stable without subscribing to the > > stable mailing list is asking for whatever you get. I'd never heard a > > requirement for reading the CVS logs before. > > If such is to be considered a possible part of the > responsibilities... might I suggest the creation of some CVS lists > that are specifically filtered for only RELENG_2_2 messages? Sure, > people can do it themselves (if we can get the blasted procmail > regexps to work right - give me Perl any day...), but that'll save on > unnecessary bandwidth wastage from sending out messages that will just > get deleted. erm... You've got perl. Has anyone implemeted a persistent mail filtering daemon? (using perl or not). I ran procmail in a tight loop over each of 2000 or so messages last night and it took over 1/2 an hour. Sorry if this drifts of the list topic. Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 04:12:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25498 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:12:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from box.argonet.co.uk (box.argonet.co.uk [194.200.2.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25492 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasper@staff.argonet.co.uk) Received: from jasper by box.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.81 #8) id 0zFzCW-0001L4-00; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:11:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:11:16 +0200 (GMT) From: Jasper Wallace X-Sender: jasper@box To: Andrew McNaughton cc: Allen Smith , Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Andrew McNaughton wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Allen Smith wrote: > > Has anyone implemeted a persistent mail filtering daemon? (using perl or > not). I ran procmail in a tight loop over each of 2000 or so messages > last night and it took over 1/2 an hour. exim. see http://www.exim.org - it's a complete mta with built in mail filtering. The filter syntax is *much* nicer than procmail (your evarage user can normally understand it). -- Jasper Wallace Argo Interactive Group PLC +44 (0)1243 815815 Unix Systems support, +44 (0)411 264753 Integration and Administration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 04:42:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28292 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lax-ca66-09.ix.netcom.com [207.223.161.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28285 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14570; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:42:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael V. Harding" Message-Id: <199809071142.EAA14570@netcom1.netcom.com> To: jasper@staff.argonet.co.uk CC: andrew@squiz.co.nz, easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu, mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Jasper Wallace on Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:11:16 +0200 (GMT)) Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can also use procmail as your local MTA within sendmail - this speeds things up a bit... just cram the line FEATURE(local_procmail)dnl before the MAILER(local)dnl line in your *.mc file that you generate 'sendmail.cf' from. Mike Harding Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:11:16 +0200 (GMT) From: Jasper Wallace X-Sender: jasper@box cc: Allen Smith , Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Andrew McNaughton wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Allen Smith wrote: > > Has anyone implemeted a persistent mail filtering daemon? (using perl or > not). I ran procmail in a tight loop over each of 2000 or so messages > last night and it took over 1/2 an hour. exim. see http://www.exim.org - it's a complete mta with built in mail filtering. The filter syntax is *much* nicer than procmail (your evarage user can normally understand it). -- Jasper Wallace Argo Interactive Group PLC +44 (0)1243 815815 Unix Systems support, +44 (0)411 264753 Integration and Administration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 08:24:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14112 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14103 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id IAA15342 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdP15088; Mon Sep 7 08:24:23 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) id IAA14693 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809071524.IAA14693@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdl14688; Mon Sep 7 08:24:07 1998 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cy To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question About CVS Activity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 08:24:02 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed the following this morning CVS activity during CVSup this morning. My initial thoughts are that this would affect anyone wishing to check out code based on the -stable branch. The activity that raises a red flag to me is as follows. It was accompanied by a number of similar deletions from the CVS tree for the Alpha platform. Edit src/sys/isa/kbdio.c,v Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.1.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.10 Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.10 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.10 Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.10.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.12 Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.12 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.12 Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.12 Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.12 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 Delete delta 1.1.2.6 Delete delta 1.1.2.5 Delete delta 1.1.2.4 Delete delta 1.1.2.3 Delete delta 1.1.2.2 Delete delta 1.1.2.1 Edit src/sys/isa/kbdio.h,v Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.1.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.4 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.4 Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.6 Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.6 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.4 Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.6 Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.6.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.4 Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.7 Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.7 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.5 Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.7 Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.7 Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.7 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.5 Delete delta 1.1.2.5 Delete delta 1.1.2.4 Delete delta 1.1.2.3 Delete delta 1.1.2.2 Delete delta 1.1.2.1 Edit src/sys/isa/kbdtables.h,v Delete tag BETA_1_0 -> 1.2 Delete tag GAMMA_1_0 -> 1.2 Delete tag EPSILON_1_0 -> 1.3 Delete tag FINAL_1_0 -> 1.4 Delete tag BRANCH_1_0 -> 1.4.0.2 Delete tag FINAL_1_0_2 -> 1.4 Delete tag BP_BETA_1_1 -> 1.11 Delete tag BETA_1_1 -> 1.11.0.2 Delete tag GAMMA_1_1 -> 1.11 Delete tag FINAL_1_1 -> 1.11 Delete tag MOVED_NEWCVS -> 1.12 Delete tag REL_before_johndavid_2_0_0 -> 1.12 Delete tag ALPHA_2_0 -> 1.15.0.2 Delete tag BETA_2_0 -> 1.18 Delete tag RELEASE_2_0 -> 1.18 Delete tag OLAH_TTCP -> 1.18.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_ALPHA -> 1.29 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_BP -> 1.29 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5 -> 1.29.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_RELEASE -> 1.29 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_BP -> 1.29 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0 -> 1.29.0.4 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -> 1.29 Delete tag wollman_polling -> 1.31.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE -> 1.29 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_BP -> 1.32 Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.32.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_RELEASE -> 1.29 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_1_RELEASE -> 1.29 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_7_RELEASE -> 1.29 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.32 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.32 Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.34 Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.34 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.32 Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.34 Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.34.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.32.2.2 Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.39 Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.39 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.32.2.4 Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.39 Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.39 Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.40 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.32.2.5 Delete delta 1.32.2.5 Delete delta 1.32.2.4 Delete delta 1.32.2.3 Delete delta 1.32.2.2 Delete delta 1.32.2.1 Edit src/sys/isa/syscons.c,v Delete tag BETA_1_0 -> 1.2 Delete tag GAMMA_1_0 -> 1.4 Delete tag EPSILON_1_0 -> 1.9 Delete tag FINAL_1_0 -> 1.14 Delete tag BRANCH_1_0 -> 1.14.0.2 Delete tag FINAL_1_0_2 -> 1.14 Delete tag BP_BETA_1_1 -> 1.35 Delete tag BETA_1_1 -> 1.35.0.2 Delete tag GAMMA_1_1 -> 1.35.2.1 Delete tag FINAL_1_1 -> 1.35.2.2 Delete tag MOVED_NEWCVS -> 1.45 Delete tag REL_before_johndavid_2_0_0 -> 1.45 Delete tag ALPHA_2_0 -> 1.76.0.2 Delete tag BETA_2_0 -> 1.78 Delete tag RELEASE_2_0 -> 1.80 Delete tag OLAH_TTCP -> 1.80.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_ALPHA -> 1.116 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_BP -> 1.117 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5 -> 1.117.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_RELEASE -> 1.117 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_BP -> 1.117 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0 -> 1.117.0.4 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.5 Delete tag wollman_polling -> 1.144.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.12 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_BP -> 1.182 Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.182.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.15 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_1_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.15 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_7_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.16 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.15 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.15 Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.210 Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.210 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.18 Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.220 Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.220.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.26 Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.256 Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.256 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.31 Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.260 Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.260 Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.264 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.34 Delete delta 1.182.2.34 Delete delta 1.182.2.33 Delete delta 1.182.2.32 Delete delta 1.182.2.31 Delete delta 1.182.2.30 Delete delta 1.182.2.29 Delete delta 1.182.2.28 Delete delta 1.182.2.27 Delete delta 1.182.2.26 Delete delta 1.182.2.25 Delete delta 1.182.2.24 Delete delta 1.182.2.23 Delete delta 1.182.2.22 Delete delta 1.182.2.21 Delete delta 1.182.2.20 Delete delta 1.182.2.19 Delete delta 1.182.2.18 Delete delta 1.182.2.17 Delete delta 1.182.2.16 Delete delta 1.182.2.15 Delete delta 1.182.2.14 Delete delta 1.182.2.13 Delete delta 1.182.2.12 Delete delta 1.182.2.11 Delete delta 1.182.2.10 Delete delta 1.182.2.9 Delete delta 1.182.2.8 Delete delta 1.182.2.7 Delete delta 1.182.2.6 Delete delta 1.182.2.5 Delete delta 1.182.2.4 Delete delta 1.182.2.3 Delete delta 1.182.2.2 Delete delta 1.182.2.1 Delete delta 1.117.4.16 Delete delta 1.117.4.15 Delete delta 1.117.4.14 Delete delta 1.117.4.13 Delete delta 1.117.4.12 Delete delta 1.117.4.11 Delete delta 1.117.4.10 Delete delta 1.117.4.9 Delete delta 1.117.4.8 Delete delta 1.117.4.7 Delete delta 1.117.4.6 Delete delta 1.117.4.5 Delete delta 1.117.4.4 Delete delta 1.117.4.3 Delete delta 1.117.4.2 Delete delta 1.117.4.1 Delete delta 1.35.2.2 Delete delta 1.35.2.1 Edit src/sys/isa/syscons.h,v Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_ALPHA -> 1.8 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_BP -> 1.9 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5 -> 1.9.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_RELEASE -> 1.9 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_BP -> 1.9 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0 -> 1.9.0.4 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.1 Delete tag wollman_polling -> 1.15.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.1 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_BP -> 1.23 Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.23.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_1_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_7_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.3 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.3 Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.28 Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.28 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.3 Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.30 Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.30.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.7 Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.37 Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.37 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.9 Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.37 Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.37 Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.37 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.9 Delete delta 1.23.2.9 Delete delta 1.23.2.8 Delete delta 1.23.2.7 Delete delta 1.23.2.6 Delete delta 1.23.2.5 Delete delta 1.23.2.4 Delete delta 1.23.2.3 Delete delta 1.23.2.2 Delete delta 1.23.2.1 Delete delta 1.9.4.2 Delete delta 1.9.4.1 Edit src/sys/isa/timerreg.h,v Delete tag V_0_1_2_4 -> 1.1.1.1 Delete tag ALPHA_1_0 -> 1.1.1.1 Delete tag BETA_1_0 -> 1.1.1.1 Delete tag GAMMA_1_0 -> 1.1.1.1 Delete tag EPSILON_1_0 -> 1.1.1.1 Delete tag FINAL_1_0 -> 1.2 Delete tag BRANCH_1_0 -> 1.2.0.2 Delete tag FINAL_1_0_2 -> 1.2 Delete tag BP_BETA_1_1 -> 1.2 Delete tag BETA_1_1 -> 1.2.0.4 Delete tag GAMMA_1_1 -> 1.2 Delete tag FINAL_1_1 -> 1.2 Delete tag MOVED_NEWCVS -> 1.2 Delete tag REL_before_johndavid_2_0_0 -> 1.2 Delete tag ALPHA_2_0 -> 1.2.0.6 Delete tag BETA_2_0 -> 1.2 Delete tag RELEASE_2_0 -> 1.2 Delete tag OLAH_TTCP -> 1.2.0.8 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_ALPHA -> 1.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_BP -> 1.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5 -> 1.2.0.10 Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_RELEASE -> 1.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_BP -> 1.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0 -> 1.2.0.12 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -> 1.2 Delete tag wollman_polling -> 1.2.0.14 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE -> 1.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_BP -> 1.3 Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.3.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_RELEASE -> 1.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_1_RELEASE -> 1.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_1_7_RELEASE -> 1.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.3 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.3 Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.5 Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.5 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.3 Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.5 Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.5.0.2 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.3 Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.5 Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.5 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.3 Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.5 Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.5 Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.5 Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.3 Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Government of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 08:48:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16715 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com ([206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16701 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA06516; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:47:44 -0400 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006512; Mon, 7 Sep 98 11:47:16 -0400 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00545; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01012; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809071547.LAA01012@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: Bill Paul Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: auto-negotiation in xl driver takes too long? In-Reply-To: <199809071509.LAA19002@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> References: <199809071353.JAA00940@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <199809071509.LAA19002@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Paul writes: Bill> Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Viren R. Shah Bill> had to walk into mine and say: Bill> It should not be from memory: it should be written down on paper and Bill> transcribed exactly. I have no idea what this error message means or Bill> where it comes from. It's possible you remembered it wrong and Bill> it actually said something different which might have been Bill> useful, but now we'll never know. Here's the exact boot message. It's easily reproducible, by removing the "sleep 5" from /etc/rc *Network pass 1 done. *Starting the mount of all NFS filesystems. xl0: autoneg not complete, no carrier xl1: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 10Mbps) [hangs for a long time] nfs: can't get net id for host *Finished mounting all NFS filesystems. recording kernel -c changes additional daemons: syslogd. The statements prefixed with an * are the ones I introduced into the rc files. When it does continue after being hung during the NFS mount, all of my NFS filesystems are not mounted (although most of them are). In this state when I do a mount -a -t nfs again in order to mount the ones that haven't been mounted, all the NFS mounts that were already mounted get mounted again (as in they are listed twice in the df output). Bill> The autonegotiation doesn't happen sequentially. That is, it takes 5 Aah. Bill> I'm not quite certain how to deal with this. If I reduce the timeout, Bill> it will break autonegotiation with some of the 3c905 boards (which is Bill> what I increased the timeout to fix in the first place). NFS mounts are Bill> done via RPC, and the RPC library is supposed to retry a couple times Bill> before giving up. I would have expected it to succeed eventually. It does seem to retry and succeed for *some* of the NFS mounts. [options] 1. add "bg" to fstab 2. force the media type 3. change the code Like I mentioned the first time, I'm perfectly happy with putting a sleep statement in the rc file. If this is going to affect only a few people (namely me), then that is fine. However, if you want me to test the above 3 options to see whether they work, and give you feedback, let me know, and I'll do so. This seems to be more the fault of the NFS/RPC subsystem than of the NIC driver. Bill> -Bill Viren -- Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} "SCSI *is* God's bus and it's hardly an old-fashioned (or academic) attitude to think so, it's simply an informed attitude." -- Jordan Hubbard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 09:39:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24124 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24119 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:39:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id JAA27093; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdf26579; Mon Sep 7 09:38:46 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) id JAA14884; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809071638.JAA14884@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdj14876; Mon Sep 7 09:38:37 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cy To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question About CVS Activity In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Sep 1998 08:24:02 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:38:34 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've managed to answer my own question. sys/isa never existed in -stable, so the listed changes would never affect it. -stable uses sys/i386/isa instead. My apologies for wasting your time and the bandwidth. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Government of BC > I noticed the following this morning CVS activity during CVSup this > morning. My initial thoughts are that this would affect anyone wishing > to check out code based on the -stable branch. The activity that raises > a red flag to me is as follows. It was accompanied by a number of > similar deletions from the CVS tree for the Alpha platform. > > Edit src/sys/isa/kbdio.c,v > Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.1.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.10 > Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.10 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.10 > Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.10.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.12 > Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.12 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.12 > Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.12 > Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.12 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete delta 1.1.2.6 > Delete delta 1.1.2.5 > Delete delta 1.1.2.4 > Delete delta 1.1.2.3 > Delete delta 1.1.2.2 > Delete delta 1.1.2.1 > Edit src/sys/isa/kbdio.h,v > Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.1.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.4 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.4 > Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.6 > Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.6 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.4 > Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.6 > Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.6.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.4 > Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.7 > Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.7 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.5 > Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.7 > Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.7 > Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.7 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.5 > Delete delta 1.1.2.5 > Delete delta 1.1.2.4 > Delete delta 1.1.2.3 > Delete delta 1.1.2.2 > Delete delta 1.1.2.1 > Edit src/sys/isa/kbdtables.h,v > Delete tag BETA_1_0 -> 1.2 > Delete tag GAMMA_1_0 -> 1.2 > Delete tag EPSILON_1_0 -> 1.3 > Delete tag FINAL_1_0 -> 1.4 > Delete tag BRANCH_1_0 -> 1.4.0.2 > Delete tag FINAL_1_0_2 -> 1.4 > Delete tag BP_BETA_1_1 -> 1.11 > Delete tag BETA_1_1 -> 1.11.0.2 > Delete tag GAMMA_1_1 -> 1.11 > Delete tag FINAL_1_1 -> 1.11 > Delete tag MOVED_NEWCVS -> 1.12 > Delete tag REL_before_johndavid_2_0_0 -> 1.12 > Delete tag ALPHA_2_0 -> 1.15.0.2 > Delete tag BETA_2_0 -> 1.18 > Delete tag RELEASE_2_0 -> 1.18 > Delete tag OLAH_TTCP -> 1.18.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_ALPHA -> 1.29 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_BP -> 1.29 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5 -> 1.29.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_RELEASE -> 1.29 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_BP -> 1.29 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0 -> 1.29.0.4 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -> 1.29 > Delete tag wollman_polling -> 1.31.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE -> 1.29 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_BP -> 1.32 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.32.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_RELEASE -> 1.29 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_1_RELEASE -> 1.29 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_7_RELEASE -> 1.29 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.32 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.32 > Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.34 > Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.34 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.32 > Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.34 > Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.34.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.32.2.2 > Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.39 > Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.39 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.32.2.4 > Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.39 > Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.39 > Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.40 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.32.2.5 > Delete delta 1.32.2.5 > Delete delta 1.32.2.4 > Delete delta 1.32.2.3 > Delete delta 1.32.2.2 > Delete delta 1.32.2.1 > Edit src/sys/isa/syscons.c,v > Delete tag BETA_1_0 -> 1.2 > Delete tag GAMMA_1_0 -> 1.4 > Delete tag EPSILON_1_0 -> 1.9 > Delete tag FINAL_1_0 -> 1.14 > Delete tag BRANCH_1_0 -> 1.14.0.2 > Delete tag FINAL_1_0_2 -> 1.14 > Delete tag BP_BETA_1_1 -> 1.35 > Delete tag BETA_1_1 -> 1.35.0.2 > Delete tag GAMMA_1_1 -> 1.35.2.1 > Delete tag FINAL_1_1 -> 1.35.2.2 > Delete tag MOVED_NEWCVS -> 1.45 > Delete tag REL_before_johndavid_2_0_0 -> 1.45 > Delete tag ALPHA_2_0 -> 1.76.0.2 > Delete tag BETA_2_0 -> 1.78 > Delete tag RELEASE_2_0 -> 1.80 > Delete tag OLAH_TTCP -> 1.80.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_ALPHA -> 1.116 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_BP -> 1.117 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5 -> 1.117.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_RELEASE -> 1.117 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_BP -> 1.117 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0 -> 1.117.0.4 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.5 > Delete tag wollman_polling -> 1.144.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.12 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_BP -> 1.182 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.182.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.15 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_1_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.15 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_7_RELEASE -> 1.117.4.16 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.15 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.15 > Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.210 > Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.210 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.18 > Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.220 > Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.220.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.26 > Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.256 > Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.256 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.31 > Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.260 > Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.260 > Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.264 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.182.2.34 > Delete delta 1.182.2.34 > Delete delta 1.182.2.33 > Delete delta 1.182.2.32 > Delete delta 1.182.2.31 > Delete delta 1.182.2.30 > Delete delta 1.182.2.29 > Delete delta 1.182.2.28 > Delete delta 1.182.2.27 > Delete delta 1.182.2.26 > Delete delta 1.182.2.25 > Delete delta 1.182.2.24 > Delete delta 1.182.2.23 > Delete delta 1.182.2.22 > Delete delta 1.182.2.21 > Delete delta 1.182.2.20 > Delete delta 1.182.2.19 > Delete delta 1.182.2.18 > Delete delta 1.182.2.17 > Delete delta 1.182.2.16 > Delete delta 1.182.2.15 > Delete delta 1.182.2.14 > Delete delta 1.182.2.13 > Delete delta 1.182.2.12 > Delete delta 1.182.2.11 > Delete delta 1.182.2.10 > Delete delta 1.182.2.9 > Delete delta 1.182.2.8 > Delete delta 1.182.2.7 > Delete delta 1.182.2.6 > Delete delta 1.182.2.5 > Delete delta 1.182.2.4 > Delete delta 1.182.2.3 > Delete delta 1.182.2.2 > Delete delta 1.182.2.1 > Delete delta 1.117.4.16 > Delete delta 1.117.4.15 > Delete delta 1.117.4.14 > Delete delta 1.117.4.13 > Delete delta 1.117.4.12 > Delete delta 1.117.4.11 > Delete delta 1.117.4.10 > Delete delta 1.117.4.9 > Delete delta 1.117.4.8 > Delete delta 1.117.4.7 > Delete delta 1.117.4.6 > Delete delta 1.117.4.5 > Delete delta 1.117.4.4 > Delete delta 1.117.4.3 > Delete delta 1.117.4.2 > Delete delta 1.117.4.1 > Delete delta 1.35.2.2 > Delete delta 1.35.2.1 > Edit src/sys/isa/syscons.h,v > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_ALPHA -> 1.8 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_BP -> 1.9 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5 -> 1.9.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_RELEASE -> 1.9 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_BP -> 1.9 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0 -> 1.9.0.4 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.1 > Delete tag wollman_polling -> 1.15.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.1 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_BP -> 1.23 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.23.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_1_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_7_RELEASE -> 1.9.4.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.3 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.3 > Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.28 > Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.28 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.3 > Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.30 > Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.30.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.7 > Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.37 > Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.37 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.9 > Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.37 > Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.37 > Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.37 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.23.2.9 > Delete delta 1.23.2.9 > Delete delta 1.23.2.8 > Delete delta 1.23.2.7 > Delete delta 1.23.2.6 > Delete delta 1.23.2.5 > Delete delta 1.23.2.4 > Delete delta 1.23.2.3 > Delete delta 1.23.2.2 > Delete delta 1.23.2.1 > Delete delta 1.9.4.2 > Delete delta 1.9.4.1 > Edit src/sys/isa/timerreg.h,v > Delete tag V_0_1_2_4 -> 1.1.1.1 > Delete tag ALPHA_1_0 -> 1.1.1.1 > Delete tag BETA_1_0 -> 1.1.1.1 > Delete tag GAMMA_1_0 -> 1.1.1.1 > Delete tag EPSILON_1_0 -> 1.1.1.1 > Delete tag FINAL_1_0 -> 1.2 > Delete tag BRANCH_1_0 -> 1.2.0.2 > Delete tag FINAL_1_0_2 -> 1.2 > Delete tag BP_BETA_1_1 -> 1.2 > Delete tag BETA_1_1 -> 1.2.0.4 > Delete tag GAMMA_1_1 -> 1.2 > Delete tag FINAL_1_1 -> 1.2 > Delete tag MOVED_NEWCVS -> 1.2 > Delete tag REL_before_johndavid_2_0_0 -> 1.2 > Delete tag ALPHA_2_0 -> 1.2.0.6 > Delete tag BETA_2_0 -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELEASE_2_0 -> 1.2 > Delete tag OLAH_TTCP -> 1.2.0.8 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_ALPHA -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_BP -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5 -> 1.2.0.10 > Delete tag RELENG_2_0_5_RELEASE -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_BP -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0 -> 1.2.0.12 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_0_RELEASE -> 1.2 > Delete tag wollman_polling -> 1.2.0.14 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_5_RELEASE -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_BP -> 1.3 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.3.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_RELEASE -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_6_1_RELEASE -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_1_7_RELEASE -> 1.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.3 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.3 > Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.5 > Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.5 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.3 > Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.5 > Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.5.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.3 > Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.5 > Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.5 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.3 Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.5 > Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.5 > Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.5 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.3 > > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Open Systems Group Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca > ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca > Government of BC > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 11:38:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12737 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kern.sub.erols.com (kern.sub.erols.com [207.96.19.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12706 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from awood@kern.sub.erols.com) Received: from localhost (awood@localhost) by kern.sub.erols.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA20872 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:37:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from awood@kern.sub.erols.com) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: austin wood To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to upgrade my 2.2.5-RELEASE system to 2.2.7-STABLE. I CVSuped with the supfile from the FAQ. The command I entered was cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile Then I did: cd /usr/src && make world After a bit of compiling it quit with *** Error Code 1. This is what I got: yacc -o expr.c /usr/src/bin/expr/expr.y usage: yacc [-dlrtv] [-b file_prefix] [-p symbol_prefix] filename *** Error code 1 Stop. Apparently -o is not a valid flag. How could I fix this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 12:06:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17354 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:06:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17349 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:06:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04358; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:05:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: austin wood cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Sep 1998 14:37:42 EDT." Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 12:05:57 -0700 Message-ID: <4352.905195157@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmmm. I moved yacc earlier in the build order to deal with this breakage in another place, but clearly not early enough to handle expr. I've just committed a fix which should hopefully fix that now; please try again (after cvsuping again) and report back if it fails once more, thanks. - Jordan > I'm trying to upgrade my 2.2.5-RELEASE system to 2.2.7-STABLE. I CVSuped > with the supfile from the FAQ. The command I entered was > > cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile > > Then I did: > > cd /usr/src && make world > > After a bit of compiling it quit with *** Error Code 1. This is what I > got: > > yacc -o expr.c /usr/src/bin/expr/expr.y > usage: yacc [-dlrtv] [-b file_prefix] [-p symbol_prefix] filename > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Apparently -o is not a valid flag. How could I fix this? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 12:41:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21958 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:41:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lax-ca72-08.ix.netcom.com [207.223.161.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21953 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:41:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01421; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:41:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael V. Harding" Message-Id: <199809071941.MAA01421@netcom1.netcom.com> To: awood@kern.sub.erols.com CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from austin wood on Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:37:42 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: STABLE References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG make buildworld to pick up the new yacc, I assume... Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: austin wood Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to upgrade my 2.2.5-RELEASE system to 2.2.7-STABLE. I CVSuped with the supfile from the FAQ. The command I entered was cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile Then I did: cd /usr/src && make world After a bit of compiling it quit with *** Error Code 1. This is what I got: yacc -o expr.c /usr/src/bin/expr/expr.y usage: yacc [-dlrtv] [-b file_prefix] [-p symbol_prefix] filename *** Error code 1 Stop. Apparently -o is not a valid flag. How could I fix this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 13:18:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29234 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rotting.cheese.org (rotting.cheese.org [194.217.167.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29225 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pgm@rotting.cheese.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by rotting.cheese.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA01953; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:18:18 +0100 (GMT/BST) From: System Administrator Message-Id: <199809072018.VAA01953@rotting.cheese.org> Subject: How do I get the boot: prompt to show on the serial console? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:18:17 +0100 (GMT/BST) Cc: pgm@rotting.cheese.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Having read: a kernel with options COMCONSOLE. Unplug the keyboard from the system. I did so, but, I'm using 2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP because of our Adaptec SCSIs and ../../compile/NEWKERNEL make does this DINET -DKERNEL -c vers.c loading kernel cam_xpt.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sinit' referenced from text segment cam_xpt.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sinit' referenced from text segment cam_xpt.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sinit' referenced from text segment cam_xpt.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sinit' referenced from text segment cam_xpt.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sinit' referenced from text segment cam_periph.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_pinit' referenced from text segment cam_periph.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_pinit' referenced from text segment cam_periph.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_pinit' referenced from text segment ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_dainit' referenced from data segment ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_cdinit' referenced from data segment *** Error code 1 Stop. I went to ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/FreeBSD/cam/2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP/src/ to get the source and tried again (to no avail) Can anybody shed any light on the matter? Thanks patmac To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 7 17:41:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07893 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07888 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au) From: Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16642 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:40:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(192.3.1.21) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma016638; Tue, 8 Sep 98 10:40:41 +1000 Received: by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 4A256679.0003CF4D ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:41:36 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <4A256679.0001A62D.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:39:28 +1000 Subject: buildworld pic problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While doing a "make buildworld" on Friday I ran into the following error; cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -nostdlib -Wl,-Bshareable -Wl,-Bsymbolic -Wl,-assert -Wl,nosymbolic -o ld.so mdprologue.o rtld.o malloc.o shlib.o md.o support.o sbrk.o -lc_pic -lgcc_pic ld: -lc_pic: no match *** Error code 1 My previous buildworld was a couple of months ago. It wasn't hard to get around (just dive into the right directories and build and install libc_pic.a and libgcc_pic.a). I'm not that up on the FreeBSD buildworld process however this makes me wonder. Those two librariesseem to be new since I didn't already have them in /usr/lib,and they are either built after ld.so in the normal buildworld sequence or the includes for ld.so don't point to the right place to pick them up. So, is there a problem that, if the two "pic" libraries change then that change won't be picked up immediately? Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 07:01:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04047 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spiv.fnal.gov (spiv.fnal.gov [131.225.124.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04032 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:01:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neswold@spiv.fnal.gov) Received: (from neswold@localhost) by spiv.fnal.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA22532; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:02:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from neswold) Message-ID: <19980908090209.30116@spiv.fnal.gov> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:02:09 -0500 From: Rich Neswold To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What time shall I sup? Reply-To: neswold@fnal.gov References: <199809042115.OAA12224@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199809042115.OAA12224@austin.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 02:15:35PM -0700 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 0A C8 A5 76 DF 8E E1 B3 F3 97 BE 73 DA CD 4B C9 X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.mcs.net/~rneswold/www/pub.key X-Spambot-Food: abuse@localhost postmaster@localhost abuse@fbi.gov Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If memory serves, didn't John Polstra say: > > > What is the best time of the week to run cvsup? > > You are not going to get a useful answer to this question. > > Your best bet is to spread the load by using a mirror site other than > cvsup.freebsd.org. In the US, both cvsup2 and cvsup3 are almost > always less loaded than cvsup.freebsd.org. Argh! Now cvsup2 is going to get loaded down! Thanks a lot! :-) -- Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard Neswold, Accelerator Div./Controls Dept | neswold@fnal.gov Fermilab, PO Box 500, MS 347, Batavia, IL 60510 | voice (630) 840-3454 'finger neswold@aduxb.fnal.gov' for PGP key | fax (630) 840-3093 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 08:04:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12798 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:04:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12738; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id RAA12000; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:04:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:04:03 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: neswold@fnal.gov Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What time shall I sup? References: <199809042115.OAA12224@austin.polstra.com> <19980908090209.30116@spiv.fnal.gov> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 08 Sep 1998 17:04:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: Rich Neswold's message of "Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:02:09 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA12793 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rich Neswold writes: > If memory serves, didn't John Polstra say: > > Your best bet is to spread the load by using a mirror site other than > > cvsup.freebsd.org. In the US, both cvsup2 and cvsup3 are almost > > always less loaded than cvsup.freebsd.org. > Argh! Now cvsup2 is going to get loaded down! Thanks a lot! :-) How about hacking cvsup to accept a list of servers (instead of just one server per supfile) and select one randomly? DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 08:33:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18201 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:33:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from papa.faki-campus.mipt.ru (papa.faki-campus.mipt.ru [194.85.83.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18187 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@papa.faki-campus.mipt.ru) Received: from localhost (freebsd@localhost) by papa.faki-campus.mipt.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA00974 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:34:47 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@papa.faki-campus.mipt.ru) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:34:44 +0000 (GMT) From: FreeBSD User To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux And FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199804162316.QAA03131@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 09:12:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24712 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24664 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13279; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199809081611.JAA13279@austin.polstra.com> To: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What time shall I sup? In-reply-to: Your message of "08 Sep 1998 17:04:02 +0200." Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 09:11:05 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How about hacking cvsup to accept a list of servers (instead of just > one server per supfile) and select one randomly? I like that idea. I'll add it to my CVSup to-do list. In the past, we've considered renaming cvsup.freebsd.org to cvsup1.freebsd.org. Then we would give cvsup.freebsd.org 3 DNS entries, one for each of the three US mirrors. This would have more or less the same effect. However, for various reasons, I've shied away from this approach. For one thing, we would have to make sure that all 3 mirrors carried exactly the same collections, or it would cause problems. Currently it's optional to carry some of the larger collections such as the mailing list archives. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 11:40:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21301 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:40:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21293 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14305; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199809081840.LAA14305@austin.polstra.com> To: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: Question About CVS Activity In-Reply-To: <199809071524.IAA14693@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: <199809071524.IAA14693@cwsys.cwsent.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 11:40:44 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199809071524.IAA14693@cwsys.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > I noticed the following this morning CVS activity during CVSup this > morning. My initial thoughts are that this would affect anyone wishing > to check out code based on the -stable branch. The activity that raises > a red flag to me is as follows. It was accompanied by a number of > similar deletions from the CVS tree for the Alpha platform. > > Edit src/sys/isa/kbdio.c,v > Delete tag RELENG_2_2 -> 1.1.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_1_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag pre_smp_merge -> 1.10 > Delete tag post_smp_merge -> 1.10 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_2_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag BP_WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.10 > Delete tag WOLLMAN_MBUF -> 1.10.0.2 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_5_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag PRE_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.12 > Delete tag POST_SOFTUPDATE -> 1.12 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_6_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete tag PRE_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.12 > Delete tag POST_DEVFS_SLICE -> 1.12 > Delete tag PRE_NOBDEV -> 1.12 > Delete tag RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE -> 1.1.2.6 > Delete delta 1.1.2.6 > Delete delta 1.1.2.5 > Delete delta 1.1.2.4 > Delete delta 1.1.2.3 > Delete delta 1.1.2.2 > Delete delta 1.1.2.1 ... I don't blame you for being alarmed, but in this case it's nothing to worry about. I caused it, with my Repository Manager hat on. A month or so ago, a committer who will remain unnamed did an unauthorized repository copy of these files. That's a non-trivial operation, and he did it wrong. (That's why committers are not allowed to do repository copies themselves.) It caused these files to suddenly appear as if they existed in -stable as well as many past releases. With all the ELF-related work going on, I didn't get around to repairing it until last weekend. The repairs caused the worrisome log messages. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 12:04:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25867 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25859 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:04:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27388; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:03:14 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199809081903.QAA27388@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: What time shall I sup? In-Reply-To: <199809081611.JAA13279@austin.polstra.com> from John Polstra at "Sep 8, 98 09:11:05 am" To: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:03:13 -0300 (EST) Cc: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG #define quoting(John Polstra) // > How about hacking cvsup to accept a list of servers (instead of just // > one server per supfile) and select one randomly? // // I like that idea. I'll add it to my CVSup to-do list. // // In the past, we've considered renaming cvsup.freebsd.org to // cvsup1.freebsd.org. Then we would give cvsup.freebsd.org 3 DNS // entries, one for each of the three US mirrors. This would have more // or less the same effect. However, for various reasons, I've shied // away from this approach. For one thing, we would have to make sure // that all 3 mirrors carried exactly the same collections, or it would // cause problems. Currently it's optional to carry some of the larger // collections such as the mailing list archives. Those who need that could get directly from cvsup1.freebsd.org. I think you just have to define what's the minimum to be carried by a server in the main ring. The same could be applied to ftp, of course. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 16:10:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02978 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kern.sub.erols.com (kern.sub.erols.com [207.96.19.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02970 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from awood@kern.sub.erols.com) Received: from localhost (awood@localhost) by kern.sub.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA03455 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:09:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from awood@kern.sub.erols.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:09:49 -0400 (EDT) From: austin wood To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ed0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 3c509 card. I'm trying to make a mini LAN with two computers, and the freebsd box is the server. I did everything that the natd man page says to do, but when I do /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 I get: ipfw: warning: interface ``ed0'' does not exist 00000 divert 6668 ip from any to any via ed0 I'm not sure if I'm doing any of this correctly, as I'm not familiar on how to do this. However, I do not understand why natd cannot find interface ed0 because ep0 is probed succesfully on bootup. In the LINT file I happen to see the ep0 is buggy. I hope this is not the problem. Thanks, Austin Wood To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 16:34:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06942 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:34:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ainet.com (ainet.com [204.30.40.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06936 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmscott@ainet.com) Received: from perl.ainet.com (perl.ainet.com [204.30.40.14]) by ainet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA02856; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980908163526.008d4e50@mail.ainet.com> X-Sender: jmscott@mail.ainet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:35:26 -0700 To: austin wood , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Joseph M. Scott" Subject: Re: ed0 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Change : /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 To: /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ep0 ^^^ You need to specify the type of device you have on your system. I'm doing the same thing at home with a machine that has an ne2000 clone card in it. That card is supported using the ed0 driver. I've got another machine with and Intel card using the fxp0 driver. Also, this question should probably have been sent to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org instead of freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Joseph Scott jmscott@ainet.com At 07:09 PM 9/8/98 -0400, austin wood wrote: >I have a 3c509 card. I'm trying to make a mini LAN with two computers, >and the freebsd box is the server. I did everything that the natd man >page says to do, but when I do > > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 > >I get: > > ipfw: warning: interface ``ed0'' does not exist > 00000 divert 6668 ip from any to any via ed0 > >I'm not sure if I'm doing any of this correctly, as I'm not familiar on >how to do this. However, I do not understand why natd cannot find >interface ed0 because ep0 is probed succesfully on bootup. In the LINT >file I happen to see the ep0 is buggy. I hope this is not the problem. > >Thanks, >Austin Wood > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 16:40:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08368 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08313 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@iprg.nokia.com) Received: from melkor.iprg.nokia.com (melkor.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.1.82]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA04747; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35F5C020.6201DD56@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:39:12 -0700 From: Scott Sewall Organization: Nokia Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: austin wood CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you mixing up ed0 and ep0? austin wood wrote: > > I have a 3c509 card. I'm trying to make a mini LAN with two computers, > and the freebsd box is the server. I did everything that the natd man > page says to do, but when I do > > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 > > I get: > > ipfw: warning: interface ``ed0'' does not exist > 00000 divert 6668 ip from any to any via ed0 > > I'm not sure if I'm doing any of this correctly, as I'm not familiar on > how to do this. However, I do not understand why natd cannot find > interface ed0 because ep0 is probed succesfully on bootup. In the LINT > file I happen to see the ep0 is buggy. I hope this is not the problem. > > Thanks, > Austin Wood > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 16:42:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09116 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rrz.Hanse.DE (rrz.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09111 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from daemon.Hanse.DE (daemon.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.17]) by rrz.Hanse.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00272; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:42:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from transit.hanse.de (transit.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.161]) by daemon.Hanse.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22664; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:43:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from localhost (stb@localhost) by transit.hanse.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA04061; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:41:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: transit.hanse.de: stb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:41:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Bethke To: austin wood cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, austin wood wrote: > I have a 3c509 card. I'm trying to make a mini LAN with two computers, > and the freebsd box is the server. I did everything that the natd man > page says to do, but when I do > > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 > > I get: > > ipfw: warning: interface ``ed0'' does not exist > 00000 divert 6668 ip from any to any via ed0 > > I'm not sure if I'm doing any of this correctly, as I'm not familiar on > how to do this. However, I do not understand why natd cannot find > interface ed0 because ep0 is probed succesfully on bootup. In the LINT > file I happen to see the ep0 is buggy. I hope this is not the problem. Why don't you simply try to use 'ep0' instead of 'ed0'? 'ed0' isn't a magic cookie, it's the name of the interface packet aliasing should be effective on. -- Stefan Bethke Muehlendamm 12 Phone: +49-40-256848, +49-177-3504009 D-22087 Hamburg Hamburg, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 16:53:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11210 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:53:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11203 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:53:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 1549 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Sep 1998 23:53:12 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:53:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: austin wood Subject: RE: ed0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-Sep-98 austin wood wrote: > I have a 3c509 card. I'm trying to make a mini LAN with two computers, > and the freebsd box is the server. I did everything that the natd man > page says to do, but when I do > > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 > > I get: > > ipfw: warning: interface ``ed0'' does not exist > 00000 divert 6668 ip from any to any via ed0 > > I'm not sure if I'm doing any of this correctly, as I'm not familiar on > how to do this. However, I do not understand why natd cannot find > interface ed0 because ep0 is probed succesfully on bootup. In the LINT > file I happen to see the ep0 is buggy. I hope this is not the problem. I'm using ep0 with a 3c509 and haven't had any problems at all. In your case, tho, shouldn't you be using /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ep0 ^^^ since that's the card you're using? Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Searchable Campground Listings http://www.camping-usa.com "There is no outfit less entitled to lecture me about bloat than the federal government" -- Tony Snow ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 16:54:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11311 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netmug.org (netmug.org [207.88.43.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11305 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perl@netmug.org) Received: from localhost (perl@localhost) by netmug.org (8.8.8/NetMUG_1.0.0) with SMTP id QAA08175; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:53:55 -0700 (PDT) From: perl To: austin wood cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try using ep0 Michael On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, austin wood wrote: > I have a 3c509 card. I'm trying to make a mini LAN with two computers, > and the freebsd box is the server. I did everything that the natd man > page says to do, but when I do > > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 > > I get: > > ipfw: warning: interface ``ed0'' does not exist > 00000 divert 6668 ip from any to any via ed0 > > I'm not sure if I'm doing any of this correctly, as I'm not familiar on > how to do this. However, I do not understand why natd cannot find > interface ed0 because ep0 is probed succesfully on bootup. In the LINT > file I happen to see the ep0 is buggy. I hope this is not the problem. > > Thanks, > Austin Wood > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 17:01:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12231 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12224 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:01:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24784; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:00:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980908190041.03400@futuresouth.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:00:41 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: austin wood Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed0 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from austin wood on Tue, Sep 08, 1998 at 07:09:49PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 08, 1998 at 07:09:49PM -0400, austin wood woke me up to tell me: > > I'm not sure if I'm doing any of this correctly, as I'm not familiar on > how to do this. However, I do not understand why natd cannot find > interface ed0 because ep0 is probed succesfully on bootup. In the LINT > file I happen to see the ep0 is buggy. I hope this is not the problem. Read what you just wrote ;) "Natd cann't find *ed0* because *ep0* is probed sucessfully..." Or do you actually have another card in the system that's ed0? *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 17:04:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12776 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from deranged.gomad.com (deranged.gomad.com [199.227.26.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12753 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veers@gomad.com) Received: from deranged.gomad.com (veers@deranged.gomad.com [199.227.26.14]) by deranged.gomad.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA03806; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:14:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from veers@gomad.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:14:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Perel To: austin wood cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, austin wood wrote: > I have a 3c509 card. I'm trying to make a mini LAN with two computers, > and the freebsd box is the server. I did everything that the natd man > page says to do, but when I do > > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 > > I get: > > ipfw: warning: interface ``ed0'' does not exist > 00000 divert 6668 ip from any to any via ed0 > > I'm not sure if I'm doing any of this correctly, as I'm not familiar on > how to do this. However, I do not understand why natd cannot find > interface ed0 because ep0 is probed succesfully on bootup. In the LINT > file I happen to see the ep0 is buggy. I hope this is not the problem. Since the 3C905 is not exactly 100% NE2K compliant, ed0 fubars on it. Use ep0 instead, I have not had problems with it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- // Alex Perel \\ \\ // // veers@gomad.com -=- thermhlp@interlog.com \\ \\ shotgun@feh.net // // \\ \\ GoMad Networks - Powered exclusively by FreeBSD // -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 8 19:24:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02073 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail3.mailsorter.net (mail3.mailsorter.net [209.132.1.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02068 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel@cooltime.simplenet.com) Received: from daniel ([206.173.241.70]) by mail3.mailsorter.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA1446 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:24:37 -0700 Message-ID: <003601bddb99$027a7160$0201a8c0@daniel> From: "Daniel" To: Subject: Patching from FreeBSD2.0.5 to 2.7 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:24:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01BDDB5E.54B37DE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BDDB5E.54B37DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a way to patch from that low of a version? ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BDDB5E.54B37DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a way to patch from that = low of a=20 version?
 
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BDDB5E.54B37DE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 9 13:42:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15320 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15315 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19731; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35F6E80B.A571FEB1@dal.net> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:41:47 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0905 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patching from FreeBSD2.0.5 to 2.7 References: <003601bddb99$027a7160$0201a8c0@daniel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Daniel wrote: > > Is there a way to patch from that low of a version? There is no way to patch it, but you can upgrade your system from source. Go to http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html and take a look at the upgrading from source tutorial. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** At Barry (a small town in south Wales) hidden cameras have had to be installed to keep watch on the town's CCTV [Closed Circuit Television] to record acts of vandalism against the CCTV. - Privacy Forum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 9 23:30:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09225 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09203; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id XAA08373; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:30:34 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809100630.XAA08373@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: SCSI tape drives To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:30:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been using an HP DDS-2 4mm DAT drive quite successfully on a FreeBSD machine at my office. I was browsing the Insight web site for SCSI tape drives under $600 for use at home, and found the expected 8mm and 4mm tapes. However, I found that Segate, HP and a couple of others were selling Travan (TR-4) drives (4 GB native capacity in) SCSI versions for a couple of hundred bucks less than the 4mm DAT drives. Does anyone here have any experience with SCSI Travan drives under FreeBSD? If so, how are they working out? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 00:35:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18320 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:35:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tetragr.zaporizhzhe.ua (news.tetragr.zaporizhzhe.ua [194.44.20.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18295; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oleg@www.reis.zp.ua) Received: from www.tetragr.zaporizhzhe.ua (oleg@www.tetragr.zaporizhzhe.ua [194.44.20.6]) by tetragr.zaporizhzhe.ua (8.8.8/Relcom-2A-nov1) with ESMTP id KAA23256 ;Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:34:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from oleg@localhost) by www.reis.zp.ua (8.8.8/Relcom-2A-nov0.7) id KAA14710 ;Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:34:48 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199809100630.XAA08373@freebie.dcfinc.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:34:47 +0300 (EEST) Organization: ReIS Ltd. From: "Oleg V. Naumann" To: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: RE: SCSI tape drives Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Sep-98 Chad R. Larson wrote: > I've been using an HP DDS-2 4mm DAT drive quite successfully on a > FreeBSD machine at my office. > > I was browsing the Insight web site for SCSI tape drives under $600 for > use at home, and found the expected 8mm and 4mm tapes. > > However, I found that Segate, HP and a couple of others were selling > Travan (TR-4) drives (4 GB native capacity in) SCSI versions for a couple > of hundred bucks less than the 4mm DAT drives. Seagate Travan TR-4 (SCSI) do not properly detect eom (End Of Media). So dump [0-9]auf /dev/nrst[0-9] /filesystem if your dump data large then 4GB (multitape dump) failed. However, value of B option for Travan TR-4 unknown for me :-( > > Does anyone here have any experience with SCSI Travan drives under > FreeBSD? If so, how are they working out? > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message With best wishes Oleg V. Naumann P.S. Sorry for my bad English, my native language is Russian. Oleg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 01:05:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21815 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 01:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA21791; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 01:05:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zH1jF-0005of-00; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:05:21 -0600 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA01759; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:05:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199809100805.CAA01759@harmony.village.org> To: chad@dcfinc.com Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:30:34 PDT." <199809100630.XAA08373@freebie.dcfinc.com> References: <199809100630.XAA08373@freebie.dcfinc.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:05:05 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199809100630.XAA08373@freebie.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes: : Does anyone here have any experience with SCSI Travan drives under : FreeBSD? If so, how are they working out? I have been using the ATAPI versions of the travan drive on my -current box for several months now. I've been doing daily backups on them for the past couple of weeks. The drive is good for about 400kB/s or so (although this will vary from about 350kB/s to 450kB/s depending on the drive I use). I've had problems with Sony media last year, but the stuff I bought recently works. The PPro that I have has the 440FX chipset, so its IDE isn't quite up to snuff and I needed to put an ISA ide controller into the box to get it working (although I could have purchased a PCI IDE controller). Before I did this, Soeren and I were tearing our hair out over what to do. Overall, I'd say that Travan is low end. I got it because it was cheaper to get two IDE tape drives (I think I paid $185 each[*]) and give one to the FreeBSD project than it was to buy one SCSI tape drive (at the time $450 was the lowest I could find, although I kinda wish I'd gone for the $550 4mm with 4 tape magazine). I'd rate Travan in general as OK for light use, on a personal system, but I wouldn't put it into a "enterprise" setting. I think I may be pushing the limits with might nightly dumps, but so far so good. I change tapes when I feel like it. I do a level 0 every so often. I don't know how the Travan on SCSI would work for you, but I suspect that you'd have fewer oddball IDE related problems if you went that route, and parted with an extra $100. Warner [*] Not counting the pair I picked up at a garage sale for $1.00. One was missing its tape head, and the other one seems to work wonderfully. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 07:01:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28038 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bogslab.ucdavis.edu (bogslab.ucdavis.edu [169.237.68.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28033 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:01:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (deal1.bogs.org [198.137.203.51]) by bogslab.ucdavis.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10248 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deal1.bogs.org (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA23021 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809101359.GAA23021@deal1.bogs.org> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:05:05 MDT." <199809100805.CAA01759@harmony.village.org> Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:59:44 -0700 From: User GregGreg Shenaut Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199809100630.XAA08373@freebie.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes: : Does anyone here have any experience with SCSI Travan drives under : FreeBSD? If so, how are they working out? I have also been considering Travan drives, but have sort of decided that you have to include the cost of 10-20 tape cartridges into the cost; when you do this, the cost advantage of Travan evaporates considerably. -Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 07:25:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02696 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02691 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from speednet.com.au (backup.zippynet.iol.net.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18473 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:25:17 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35F7E14C.8242BF56@speednet.com.au> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:25:17 +1000 From: Andy Farkas Organization: Speed Internet Sevices X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives References: <199809101359.GAA23021@deal1.bogs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG User GregGreg Shenaut wrote: > > : Does anyone here have any experience with SCSI Travan drives under > : FreeBSD? If so, how are they working out? Whether or not it was my fault, I left a AU$50 tape in one of these drives for a couple of days, and when I went to do a backup, I was informed by the software (amanda) that the tape was unusable. When I pulled the tape out of the drive and looked at the surface of the tape, it had creases on it from where the tape-head was resting on the tape! -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 09:59:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04597 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:59:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-server.rccc.cc.nc.us ([198.85.212.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04580 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodgesj@rccc.cc.nc.us) Received: from rccc.cc.nc.us (198.85.212.201) by mail-server.rccc.cc.nc.us (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:00:39 -0400 Message-ID: <35F8053D.C73855F5@rccc.cc.nc.us> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:58:37 -0400 From: Jim Hodges Reply-To: hodgesj@rccc.cc.nc.us Organization: Rowan-Cabarrus Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: >64M memory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there something I need to do to enable >64Mg on a 2.2.7 machine. I seem to remember something about bounce buffers etc.. from an older release. TIA, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 11:01:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18178 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:01:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18154 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:01:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) Received: from localhost (zoonie@localhost) by nak.myhouse.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27856; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:01:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) X-Authentication-Warning: nak.myhouse.com: zoonie owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:01:01 -0400 (EDT) From: zoonie To: Jim Hodges cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: >64M memory In-Reply-To: <35F8053D.C73855F5@rccc.cc.nc.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i thought bounce buffers was in the GENERIC kernel config already (i always use it as the base for custom kernel configs), either way i always leave it in there and i didn't have to do anything to have 128meg work on my workstation.....but depending on your motherboard you may need some additional cache memory so that it will cache anything over 64meg. i have an ASUS HX chipset motherboard and i had to get a tag memory chip for it.... On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Jim Hodges wrote: > Is there something I need to do to enable >64Mg on a 2.2.7 machine. I > seem to remember something about bounce buffers etc.. from an older > release. > > TIA, > Jim > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 13:11:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13867 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (prinz-atm.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.30.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13825 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:11:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse@prinz-atm.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12498 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:11:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA22603; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:11:14 +0200 Message-ID: <19980910221114.C22539@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:11:14 +0200 From: Roland Jesse To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: >64M memory References: <35F8053D.C73855F5@rccc.cc.nc.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2i In-Reply-To: <35F8053D.C73855F5@rccc.cc.nc.us>; from Jim Hodges on Thu, Sep 10, 1998 at 12:58:37PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Hodges wrote: > Is there something I need to do to enable >64Mg on a 2.2.7 machine. The 'problem' seem to be worked out. My 2.2.7 recognized all 128 MB RAM out of the box. Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 17:27:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04716 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04697 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-100.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.100]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA19693 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09944 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:26:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199809110026.TAA09944@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives In-reply-to: Message from User GregGreg Shenaut of "Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:59:44 PDT." <199809101359.GAA23021@deal1.bogs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:26:51 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG User GregGreg Shenaut writes: > In message <199809100630.XAA08373@freebie.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes > : > : Does anyone here have any experience with SCSI Travan drives under > : FreeBSD? If so, how are they working out? > > I have also been considering Travan drives, but have sort of decided > that you have to include the cost of 10-20 tape cartridges into > the cost; when you do this, the cost advantage of Travan evaporates > considerably. I have to agree. When you have an expensive tape, you tend to reuse it. And reuse it. And reuse it. But with cheap $6 tapes one can have a pile of them, and afford to put one away every couple of months for possible future entertainment ("What was I doing in 1998?"). I have several Seagate/Conner/Archive 4236 2/4/8G 4mm drives at home and work. Love 'em. They are not the fastest anymore (400k/sec honest uncompressed rate) but have been very reliable. Last time I looked Bason Computers (http://www.basoncomputers.com) had them for $399 each (internal). Was at an unclaimed baggage store a couple of years ago and got a 1st generation Archive 4mm external for $50. It was a risk, but it works perfectly at a whopping 170k/sec rate. About 5 of us at work go thru about 2,000 4mm tapes and 5,000 8mm tapes per year. We don't like our Sony SDT-5200 4mm drives, but we love Sony 4mm and 8mm media. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 18:03:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11920 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11911 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:03:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id DAA27806; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:03:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:03:32 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Farkas Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives References: <199809101359.GAA23021@deal1.bogs.org> <35F7E14C.8242BF56@speednet.com.au> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Co=EFdan?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 11 Sep 1998 03:03:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: Andy Farkas's message of "Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:25:17 +1000" Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id SAA11916 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andy Farkas writes: > User GregGreg Shenaut wrote: > > : Does anyone here have any experience with SCSI Travan drives under > > : FreeBSD? If so, how are they working out? > Whether or not it was my fault, I left a AU$50 tape in one of these > drives for a couple of days, and when I went to do a backup, I was > informed by the software (amanda) that the tape was unusable. When I > pulled the tape out of the drive and looked at the surface of the tape, > it had creases on it from where the tape-head was resting on the tape! Hmm... My Travan streamer gets *very* hot (though not hot enough to scold), and even when idle, it's noticeably hotter than some of my hard disks, so I never leave tapes in it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 20:37:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02060 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:37:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02046 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05931 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:37:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199809110337.UAA05931@austin.polstra.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives In-Reply-To: References: <199809101359.GAA23021@deal1.bogs.org> <35F7E14C.8242BF56@speednet.com.au> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:37:21 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My Travan streamer gets *very* hot (though not hot enough to scold), Naughty tape drive! BAD! BAD! You should be ashamed of yourself! Sorry. Foreign languages are so much fun. :-) -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 21:38:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06254 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:38:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06249 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:38:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zHKyg-0006SC-00; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:38:34 -0600 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA11074; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199809110438.WAA11074@harmony.village.org> To: John Polstra Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:37:21 PDT." <199809110337.UAA05931@austin.polstra.com> References: <199809110337.UAA05931@austin.polstra.com> <199809101359.GAA23021@deal1.bogs.org> <35F7E14C.8242BF56@speednet.com.au> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:38:29 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199809110337.UAA05931@austin.polstra.com> John Polstra writes: : > My Travan streamer gets *very* hot (though not hot enough to scold), : : Naughty tape drive! BAD! BAD! You should be ashamed of yourself! Hmmmm, isn't that why the known rogues list was added to st.c :-) Gotta put that tape drive on the known rogues list :-). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 10 23:02:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14130 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (user-37kb0fi.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.129.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14118 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:02:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA09308; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:41:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:41:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: John Polstra cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives In-Reply-To: <199809110337.UAA05931@austin.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Next time at least mention that the proper spelling is scald. This may not be English class, but it's polite to correct while poking fun. -Jon -- opinions? cat creative_criticism >/dev/ponder cat flames >/dev/null -- J.D. Mischo -- SuperTaz -- DexNation Holodream -- dex@wankers.net -- On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, John Polstra wrote: > > My Travan streamer gets *very* hot (though not hot enough to scold), > > Naughty tape drive! BAD! BAD! You should be ashamed of yourself! > > Sorry. Foreign languages are so much fun. :-) > -- > John Polstra jdp@polstra.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA > "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 02:06:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA06873 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sagittarius.freibergnet.de (sagittarius.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06862 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:06:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mw@zoo.freibergnet.de) Received: from zoo.freibergnet.de (zoo.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.71]) by sagittarius.freibergnet.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04466; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:06:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mw@localhost) by zoo.freibergnet.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA19813; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:04:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19980910221114.C22539@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:04:31 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: mw@freibergnet.de Organization: FreibergNet Liebscher & Partner Werbeagentur und XLink-PoP Freiberg From: Martin Welk To: Roland Jesse Subject: Re: >64M memory Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Sep-98 Roland Jesse wrote: () > Is there something I need to do to enable >64Mg on a 2.2.7 machine. () The 'problem' seem to be worked out. My 2.2.7 recognized all 128 MB RAM () out of the box. AFAIR, there was the problem that older PC BIOSes don't write the correct memory size into BIOS variables due to size limitations of that space. So you probably have to put the max. RAM size FreeBSD should recognize into the kernel config file for your machine. Have a look at the documentation, but before, have a look at your kernel boot output (dmesg, /var/log/messages) if it recognizes all of your RAM. On my PII-300 (LX chipset mainboard) it worked out of the box, on an older P166 (HP NetServer) only 64 MB were recognized, although 96 inserted. After making a new kernel, if works flawlessly for months now. This has nothing to do with bounce buffers. They are needed if you have ISA cards doing DMA with more than 16 MB RAM, as those cards can only address up to 16 MB. With VLB/PCI/EISA cards they are unnecessary. An example is an Adaptec 1542B on a 486 board with 32 MB RAM. They slow down the machine a little, but if you're running memory hungry applications 32 MB RAM, it's still much faster than 16 MB and a machine constantly swapping :-) Regards, Martin -- Liebscher & Partner Werbeagentur GbR // Martin Welk Advertising, Art Design & DTP // network administration Xlink Point Of Presence Freiberg // phone: (+49|0) 3731 781-387 Am St. Niclas Schacht 13 // fax: (+49|0) 3731 781-377 D-09599 Freiberg, Germany // http://www.freibergnet.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 07:58:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10014 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA09970 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01063; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:56:47 +0200 Message-ID: <35F93A2E.EED15343@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:56:46 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mw@freibergnet.de CC: Roland Jesse , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: >64M memory References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin Welk wrote: > > On 10-Sep-98 Roland Jesse wrote: > > () > Is there something I need to do to enable >64Mg on a 2.2.7 machine. > () The 'problem' seem to be worked out. My 2.2.7 recognized all 128 MB RAM > () out of the box. > > AFAIR, there was the problem that older PC BIOSes don't write the correct > memory size into BIOS variables due to size limitations of that space. So > you probably have to put the max. RAM size FreeBSD should recognize into > the kernel config file for your machine. Have a look at the documentation, > but before, have a look at your kernel boot output (dmesg, > /var/log/messages) if it recognizes all of your RAM. > I had a "64 MB problem" when first booted my machine, which is based on an Iwill PIILS mb (Award BIOS) and has 128 MB of RAM. After fiddling a little with the BIOS settings, I found that the "memory hole at 64M" was active. This setting prevented FreeBSD from detecting the RAM over the 64M limit. When I deactivated the "memory hole", FreeBSD detected all the 128M of RAM. -- JM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-944647700 x2624 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 08:41:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15784 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:41:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from snoopy.ne.mediaone.net (snoopy.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.48.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15777 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drt@snoopy.ne.mediaone.net) Received: (from drt@localhost) by snoopy.ne.mediaone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08869; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:41:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from drt) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape drives From: drt@snoopy.ne.mediaone.net (David R. Tucker) Date: 11 Sep 1998 11:41:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no's message of "11 Sep 1998 03:03:31 +0200" Message-ID: <86btomac8d.fsf@snoopy.ne.mediaone.net> Lines: 52 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coïdan Smørgrav ) writes: > Andy Farkas writes: > > User GregGreg Shenaut wrote: > > > : Does anyone here have any experience with SCSI Travan drives under > > > : FreeBSD? If so, how are they working out? > > > > Whether or not it was my fault, I left a AU$50 tape in one of these > > drives for a couple of days, and when I went to do a backup, I was > > informed by the software (amanda) that the tape was unusable. When I > > pulled the tape out of the drive and looked at the surface of the tape, > > it had creases on it from where the tape-head was resting on the tape! > > Hmm... > > My Travan streamer gets *very* hot (though not hot enough to scold), > and even when idle, it's noticeably hotter than some of my hard disks, > so I never leave tapes in it. I haven't had either of these problems. My ordinary practice is to run a Level 0 dump every night, but I have gone away for over 3 weeks leaving a single tape in the drive with no problems. This is on my home machine and I only have 1 GB of data, so I have yet to run into the end-of-file problem mentioned in another message (although now that I know about it I'd love to know that B figure, as well). And of course, the tapes are notoriously expensive, running US$30 retail or so. I have found that retensioning each time as part of the backup script is a good idea, because otherwise I can get errors beginning with the second filesystem backed up. I have restored from scratch with no problems. The upshot: I like mine, but I've never seen them praised on any FreeBSD mailing list or newsgroup. So, they would seem best for smaller applications where backups can be arranged so as to fit on a single tape, where money is tight, and where the need to buy a lot of expensive tapes won't eat up all your savings. Otherwise, despite my experience, they're probably not worth the risk, especially in an environment where administrators are paid to be risk-averse with data. -- David R. Tucker drt@pobox.com "I may be wrong, but I'm not Clearly Erroneous." -Judge Hillman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 08:43:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16138 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from versa.eng.comsat.com (versa.eng.comsat.com [134.133.169.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16106 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@versa.eng.comsat.com) Received: (from marc@localhost) by versa.eng.comsat.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id MAA02680 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Comsat Mobile Communications From: Marc Giannoni To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dialup PPP Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG All: I'm not sure if this issue has been addressed yet, but following the 2.2.5 to 2.2.6/7 upgrade, my dialup PPP stopped working. This seems to be related to the new group 'network' assigned to ppp. Since I'm using 'getty' for dialup ppp, my configuration invokes `ppp -direct'. This does not run as Joe-Low-Privlege-User, so I changed the permissions for "/usr/sbin/ppp". before: -r-sr-x--- 1 root network 143360 Feb 25 1998 /usr/sbin/ppp --- after: -r-sr-xr-x 1 root network 143360 Feb 25 1998 /usr/sbin/ppp This may introduce some security problems. Any suggestions? ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Marc Giannoni Date: 11-Sep-98 Time: 12:26:33 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 10:15:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28840 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from berry.cs.brandeis.edu (berry.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.2.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28832 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waterman@cs.brandeis.edu) Received: from home (mg128-247.ricochet.net [204.179.128.247]) by berry.cs.brandeis.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15478; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by home (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08729; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waterman@home) Message-Id: <199809111715.KAA08729@home> To: Marc Giannoni cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Originally-to: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dialup PPP In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:26:33 EDT." References: Reply-To: waterman@acm.org Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:11 -0700 From: TS Waterman Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is exactly how it is installed in 2.2.7 from my system (recently rebuilt to -STABLE) -r-sr-xr-- 1 root network 143360 Aug 31 22:19 /usr/sbin/ppp Ppp still has security features built in (the "allow user" directive) to give permissions to only desired users. Unless it can be perverted into doing something bizarre, or the config files (/etc/ppp/...) are compromised, I wouldn't worry about the setuid security issues. Anyone know any outstanding security holes in ppp? Brian? Marc Giannoni writes: >All: > >I'm not sure if this issue has been addressed yet, but following the 2.2.5 to >2.2.6/7 upgrade, my dialup PPP stopped working. This seems to be related to >the new group 'network' assigned to ppp. > >Since I'm using 'getty' for dialup ppp, my configuration invokes `ppp -direct > '. >This does not run as Joe-Low-Privlege-User, so I changed the permissions for >"/usr/sbin/ppp". > >before: -r-sr-x--- 1 root network 143360 Feb 25 1998 /usr/sbin/ppp >--- >after: -r-sr-xr-x 1 root network 143360 Feb 25 1998 /usr/sbin/ppp > >This may introduce some security problems. Any suggestions? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 10:22:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00316 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:22:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00243 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:22:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11165; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:27:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:27:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Jt Reply-To: Jt To: Marc Giannoni cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dialup PPP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG try: -r-sr-xr-- 1 root network 143360 Sep 5 13:50 ppp hometeam@techpower.net --We cannot all be masters, nor all masters Cannot be truly follow'd-- On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Marc Giannoni wrote: > All: > > I'm not sure if this issue has been addressed yet, but following the 2.2.5 to > 2.2.6/7 upgrade, my dialup PPP stopped working. This seems to be related to > the new group 'network' assigned to ppp. > > Since I'm using 'getty' for dialup ppp, my configuration invokes `ppp -direct'. > This does not run as Joe-Low-Privlege-User, so I changed the permissions for > "/usr/sbin/ppp". > > before: -r-sr-x--- 1 root network 143360 Feb 25 1998 /usr/sbin/ppp > --- > after: -r-sr-xr-x 1 root network 143360 Feb 25 1998 /usr/sbin/ppp > > This may introduce some security problems. Any suggestions? > > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: Marc Giannoni > Date: 11-Sep-98 > Time: 12:26:33 > > This message was sent by XF-Mail > ---------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 11:31:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10578 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:31:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10564 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:31:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20195 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:31:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199809111831.NAA20195@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "make release", eBones, and ctm-cvs-cur From: David Kelly Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:31:33 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm missing something about how to "make release." My local CVS repository is created from the files mirrored at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/cvs-cur and is clearly lacking eBones. Don't think I really need eBones as md5 passwords are fine. The following are in my .cshrc so I don't forget and don't have to manually edit /usr/src/release/Makefile: setenv CHROOTDIR /usr2/release setenv BUILDNAME 2.2.7-dmk setenv CVSROOT /home/ncvs/ setenv RELEASETAG RELENG_2_2 "make release" breaks 15 hours later at: ===> usr.sbin/kstash /usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/usr.sbin/kstash created for /usr/src/kerberosIV/usr.sbin/kstash ===> include ===> lib ===> lib/libroken make: don't know how to make k_getpwuid.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Guessing Kerberos needs DES and studying the Makefile I've added: setenv NOKERBEROS yes Then 18 hours later it breaks when trying to copy something into a des directory which doesn't exist. OK, I don't have eBones, such wasn't totally unexpected. In short, "How the heck does one 'make release' without eBones?" Giving up on that, we can change the question to, "How do I merge eBones into my CVS repository and not mess up updates via CTM?" The final fallback would be to use cvsup to update my CVS but gave up on that in the past as I can't get thru the company firewall. Is there a cvsup server running on a telnet, http, https, ftp, or other common port that I might use? On my home machine I don't have this problem as I can run cvsup from there and include eBones. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 12:27:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22665 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22648 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22145; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:26:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: David Kelly cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make release", eBones, and ctm-cvs-cur In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:31:33 CDT." <199809111831.NAA20195@PeeCee.tbe.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:26:10 -0700 Message-ID: <22142.905541970@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In short, "How the heck does one 'make release' without eBones?" Short answer: I don't think it's easily possible. That's not to say it couldn't *become* possible if someone wanted to put in the work, simply that nobody (TMK) has tried to build a release this way so it just simply doesn't work that way yet. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 14:19:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11842 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:19:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11837 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:19:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA20607 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:19:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199809112119.QAA20607@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make release", eBones, and ctm-cvs-cur In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:26:10 PDT." <22142.905541970@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:19:32 -0500 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > In short, "How the heck does one 'make release' without eBones?" > > Short answer: I don't think it's easily possible. That's not to > say it couldn't *become* possible if someone wanted to put in the > work, simply that nobody (TMK) has tried to build a release this > way so it just simply doesn't work that way yet. :-) Honest answer, thanks. Guess I'll have to see what I can do about it. Have poked around a bit thinking, "its gotta work somehow, what am I doing wrong?" Having confirmed it doesn't work for others, I'll start digging deeper. Is there a document describing what /usr/src/release/Makefile is doing? If not, then that would be a good subject for a magazine article. Is there a way to resume a "make release" from the last error? Attempts to resume using "make release.6" doesn't. Appears it needs to chroot itself or something, maybe only change the object dir? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 14:30:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14457 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from centex.co.jp (ns.centex.co.jp [210.226.96.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14449 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zomi@centex.co.jp) Received: from aaa (yokohama1-101.kcom.ne.jp [210.174.91.101]) by centex.co.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with SMTP id GAA00981 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:30:25 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:30:12 GMT From: Tadahide Mizoguchi To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <35FA14F4104.F24BZOMI@centex.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24.13 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 15:59:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24531 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24521 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22757; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:59:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: David Kelly cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make release", eBones, and ctm-cvs-cur In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:19:32 CDT." <199809112119.QAA20607@PeeCee.tbe.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:59:02 -0700 Message-ID: <22753.905554742@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is there a document describing what /usr/src/release/Makefile is doing? > If not, then that would be a good subject for a magazine article. I look forward to reading the magazine article. :-) > Is there a way to resume a "make release" from the last error? Attempts > to resume using "make release.6" doesn't. Appears it needs to chroot > itself or something, maybe only change the object dir? 1. edit ${CHROOTDIR}/mk to remove make world step, preserving vars. 2. chroot ${CHROOTDIR} /mk - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 18:11:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08976 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08954 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-207.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.207]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA19142 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:10:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13511 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:10:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199809120110.UAA13511@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: "make release", eBones, and ctm-cvs-cur In-reply-to: Message from "Jordan K. Hubbard" of "Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:59:02 PDT." <22753.905554742@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:10:41 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > Is there a way to resume a "make release" from the last error? Attempts > > to resume using "make release.6" doesn't. Appears it needs to chroot > > itself or something, maybe only change the object dir? > > 1. edit ${CHROOTDIR}/mk to remove make world step, preserving vars. > > 2. chroot ${CHROOTDIR} /mk Wonderful! When it fails 18 hours into the task its hard to "guess, see what happens, try again" as the experiment cycle is only once per day. Have scrounged a 2G SCSI drive. Could probably halve my "make release" time by distributing the files across two spindles. Am still thinking about it. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 19:34:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15063 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:34:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [137.132.252.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15057 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilson@krdl.org.sg) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailbox.krdl.org.sg [137.132.247.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA18082 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:38:53 +0800 (SGT) Received: from witamach.krdl.org.sg (witamach [137.132.243.168]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA20277 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:32:58 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:39:29 +0800 (SGT) From: Wilson Tam To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: some simple fixes for bt849 card In-Reply-To: <199809072018.VAA01953@rotting.cheese.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, I have add some fixes on files brktree_reg.h and brooktree848.c which distributed with 2.2.7-RELEASE in order to make my bt849 works. Hope this will help someone out there who is using the same card. And pls forgive me if the fixes has been post before... In the file /usr/src/sys/pci/brktree_reg.h line 39: <#define BROOKTREE 849_ID 0x0351109E --- >#define BROOKTREE_849_ID 0x0351109E ^ and in file /usr/src/sys/pci/brooktree848.c line 760 add the following two lines case BROOKTREE_849_ID: return("BrookTree 849"); ----- Cheers, wilson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 19:56:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16634 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [137.132.252.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16545 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:55:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilson@krdl.org.sg) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailbox.krdl.org.sg [137.132.247.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA18317; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:00:41 +0800 (SGT) Received: from witamach.krdl.org.sg (witamach [137.132.243.168]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA20987; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:54:42 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:01:14 +0800 (SGT) From: Wilson Tam To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sound driver (pcm) block size must <= 2000 ? In-Reply-To: <199809120110.UAA13511@nospam.hiwaay.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi, I have a problem with the pcm sound driver for my creative card. The problem is when I try to issue the command: dd if=/dev/dsp of=record.raw bs=8000 count=1 The size of output file 'record.raw' always equal to 2000 rather than 8000 bytes specified by the 'bs'. However if I change the block size (bs) to <= 2000, the output file then has correct size. Is there any hints for fixing? The device line from 'dmesg' is: pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x0ffaa040) at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 id 15 cheers, wilson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 11 21:50:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24579 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:50:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.hacker.org (nvp.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.50.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24574 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:50:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nvp@mediaone.net) From: nvp@mediaone.net Received: (qmail 23012 invoked by uid 603); 12 Sep 1998 05:53:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19980912055330.23011.qmail@destiny.hacker.org> Date: 12 Sep 1998 00:53:30 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable nvp@mediaone.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 12 04:58:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26738 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA26729 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA20647; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:06:16 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809121006.MAA20647@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: sound driver (pcm) block size must <= 2000 ? To: wilson@krdl.org.sg (Wilson Tam) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:06:16 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: luigi@iet.unipi.it, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Wilson Tam" at Sep 12, 98 11:00:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Luigi, > > I have a problem with the pcm sound driver for my creative card. The > problem is when I try to issue the command: > > dd if=/dev/dsp of=record.raw bs=8000 count=1 > > The size of output file 'record.raw' always equal to 2000 rather than 8000 > bytes specified by the 'bs'. However if I change the block size (bs) to well... to avoid too high latency, the audio driver defaults to using 0.25s of data unless you specify a different blocksize using the appropriate ioctl(). This is not such a great idea i agree, but programs tend to use large blocksizes like 64K in a rad() call, and this makes redirection from /dev/audio almost unusable. While I or someone else write a more general program for audio grabbing/editing, you might try to use a blocksize <= 0.25s in your dd call to be sure that you do not get a short read (or, i think there are options for dd to read the desired amount of data). cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 12 10:49:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25629 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles152.castles.com [208.214.165.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25614 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00369; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809121754.KAA00369@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Wilson Tam cc: Luigi Rizzo , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sound driver (pcm) block size must <= 2000 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:01:14 +0800." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:54:57 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Luigi, > > I have a problem with the pcm sound driver for my creative card. The > problem is when I try to issue the command: > > dd if=/dev/dsp of=record.raw bs=8000 count=1 > > The size of output file 'record.raw' always equal to 2000 rather than 8000 > bytes specified by the 'bs'. However if I change the block size (bs) to > <= 2000, the output file then has correct size. Is there any hints for > fixing? Use a value less than 2000, obviously. It's an error to specify a block size larger than the block size of the device. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 12 14:16:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13078 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13062 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.7]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29557; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:56:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woof.lan.awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10336; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:14:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199809121114.MAA10336@woof.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: waterman@acm.org cc: Marc Giannoni , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dialup PPP In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:11 PDT." <199809111715.KAA08729@home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:14:15 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anyone know any outstanding security holes in ppp? Brian? Nope. Even if /etc/ppp/ppp.conf isn't properly protected, ppp should refuse to run. Of course this shouldn't have been a problem for the original poster as getty's run as root, and root has permission to run ppp. The only exception is if /usr/sbin/ppp is on an NFS drive and has permissions 4550. If the NFS mount maps root to nobody (the default), ppp won't be executable by root. To correct this, the permissions have now been changed to 4554. The remote machine allows ppp to be read and the local machine will execute it because it's executable by root. Alternatively, add root to group network. -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message