From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 2:33:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5704D14D8D for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 02:33:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24441; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:36:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:36:09 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Armin Ollig Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postgresql on the alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Armin Ollig wrote: > > i'm working to get postgresql to work on the alpha. > By now i have a more-or-less working version of 6.5 > up and running. It still fails some regression tests... > TAS asm stuff was a bit messy. > > I do not send any diff yet because i messed up the source a bit :-) > > Just wanted to ask if someone else is on that topic to share resources... > > best regards, > --armin > > PS: The current kernel detects all disks on my 2940UW but i cannot > access any...this normal ? You probably need to direct this question at the scsi list. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 6:10:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB101529F for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 06:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F3781 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:10:16 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Hmm!! Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:10:16 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990627131016.53F3781@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, this is wierd. It looks like there might be some gremlin somewhere.. Figure this one: ashburton# echo $SHELL /usr/local/bin/tcsh ashburton# sysctl -n kern.bootfile /kernel ashburton# csh ashburton# sysctl -n kern.bootfile /kernel ashburton# sh # sysctl -n kern.bootfile Segmentation fault - core dumped # csh ashburton# sysctl -n kern.bootfile /kernel Some VM, pmap or fork/exec interaction perhaps? This is the same problem that showed up when I compiled in softupdates and went away when it was compiled out. With some other drivers present now it has come back again so perhaps it's a kernel size issue somehow? (I've had them before - see rev 1.21 in kern_fork.c back in 1996 that was kernel size related) Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 6:24: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654121529F for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 06:23:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB6281 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:23:57 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:10:16 +0800." <19990627131016.53F3781@overcee.netplex.com.au> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:23:57 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990627132357.BAB6281@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: [..] > ashburton# csh > ashburton# sysctl -n kern.bootfile > /kernel > > ashburton# sh > # sysctl -n kern.bootfile > Segmentation fault - core dumped [..] > Some VM, pmap or fork/exec interaction perhaps? > > This is the same problem that showed up when I compiled in softupdates and > went away when it was compiled out. With some other drivers present now > it has come back again so perhaps it's a kernel size issue somehow? (I've > had them before - see rev 1.21 in kern_fork.c back in 1996 that was kernel > size related) It gets stranger.. If I give the kernel config a major diet, it works with SOFTUPDATES, compiled in and running on /home... ashburton# ls -l /kernel* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2759622 Jun 27 21:03 /kernel -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3810116 Mar 27 10:23 /kernel.GENERIC -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3690516 Jun 27 20:19 /kernel.old -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3583502 Jun 26 16:21 /kernel.sane ashburton# size /kernel* text data bss dec hex filename 1568138 177520 161256 1906914 1d18e2 /kernel 2218779 184776 170040 2573595 27451b /kernel.GENERIC 2259744 213600 175176 2648520 2869c8 /kernel.old 2014113 189088 173512 2376713 244409 /kernel.sane ashburton# size -x /kernel* text data bss dec hex filename 0x17ed8a 0x2b570 0x275e8 1906914 1d18e2 /kernel 0x21db1b 0x2d1c8 0x29838 2573595 27451b /kernel.GENERIC 0x227b20 0x34260 0x2ac48 2648520 2869c8 /kernel.old 0x1ebba1 0x2e2a0 0x2a5c8 2376713 244409 /kernel.sane kernel.old was showing the segfaults for sysctl, kernel is fine - both are exactly the same code but with a handful of PCI drivers, platform drivers, EV4 compiled out, no NFS or CD9660, but with softupdates added. kernel.sane was my last known good kernel prior to the buffer changes, and it works reliably but fails if I add softupdates. Just a datapoint... Anybody got any bright ideas about this? (apart from run the memory tester in SRM that is..) Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 6:58:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9078614CE1 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 06:58:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25188; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:00:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:00:49 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Peter Wemm Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-Reply-To: <19990627132357.BAB6281@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > [..] > > ashburton# csh > > ashburton# sysctl -n kern.bootfile > > /kernel > > > > ashburton# sh > > # sysctl -n kern.bootfile > > Segmentation fault - core dumped > [..] > > Some VM, pmap or fork/exec interaction perhaps? > > > > This is the same problem that showed up when I compiled in softupdates and > > went away when it was compiled out. With some other drivers present now > > it has come back again so perhaps it's a kernel size issue somehow? (I've > > had them before - see rev 1.21 in kern_fork.c back in 1996 that was kernel > > size related) > > It gets stranger.. If I give the kernel config a major diet, it works with > SOFTUPDATES, compiled in and running on /home... > > ashburton# ls -l /kernel* > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2759622 Jun 27 21:03 /kernel > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3810116 Mar 27 10:23 /kernel.GENERIC > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3690516 Jun 27 20:19 /kernel.old > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3583502 Jun 26 16:21 /kernel.sane > ashburton# size /kernel* > text data bss dec hex filename > 1568138 177520 161256 1906914 1d18e2 /kernel > 2218779 184776 170040 2573595 27451b /kernel.GENERIC > 2259744 213600 175176 2648520 2869c8 /kernel.old > 2014113 189088 173512 2376713 244409 /kernel.sane > ashburton# size -x /kernel* > text data bss dec hex filename > 0x17ed8a 0x2b570 0x275e8 1906914 1d18e2 /kernel > 0x21db1b 0x2d1c8 0x29838 2573595 27451b /kernel.GENERIC > 0x227b20 0x34260 0x2ac48 2648520 2869c8 /kernel.old > 0x1ebba1 0x2e2a0 0x2a5c8 2376713 244409 /kernel.sane > > kernel.old was showing the segfaults for sysctl, kernel is fine - both are > exactly the same code but with a handful of PCI drivers, platform drivers, > EV4 compiled out, no NFS or CD9660, but with softupdates added. > kernel.sane was my last known good kernel prior to the buffer changes, and > it works reliably but fails if I add softupdates. > > Just a datapoint... > > Anybody got any bright ideas about this? (apart from run the memory tester > in SRM that is..) Maybe the kernel doesn't fit in its memory region? You could try enabling the debug printfs in alpha_init() where it reads the memory cluster information. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 7:11:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B18914D97 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710CA81; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:11:24 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Rabson Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:00:49 +0100." Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:11:24 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990627141124.710CA81@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: [..] > > Anybody got any bright ideas about this? (apart from run the memory tester > > in SRM that is..) > > Maybe the kernel doesn't fit in its memory region? You could try enabling > the debug printfs in alpha_init() where it reads the memory cluster > information. Another datapoint: # /bin/cat Jun 27 22:01:19 ashburton /kernel: pid 23490 (cat), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Segmentation fault - core dumped # /bin/cat foo foo # The interesting thing is that according to the coredumps, it consistantly appears to die in the first getenv() inside setlocale() when walking the environ list. It's being a damn nuisance to check because the slightest change makes it work.. ie: under truss or ktrace, gdb, etc, it works fine. Multiple different cat binaries all do this - including one I compiled with -g - but they only misbehave under /bin/sh. Something funny about the environment passing perhaps? This is on the small kernel BTW, so the size of the kernel seems to affect things, but not eliminate the problems. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 8:54:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCDF14F34 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 08:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF9181; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:54:06 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Rabson , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:11:24 +0800." <19990627141124.710CA81@overcee.netplex.com.au> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:54:06 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990627155406.CCF9181@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: > Doug Rabson wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > [..] > > > Anybody got any bright ideas about this? (apart from run the memory test er > > > in SRM that is..) > > > > Maybe the kernel doesn't fit in its memory region? You could try enabling > > the debug printfs in alpha_init() where it reads the memory cluster > > information. > > Another datapoint: > > # /bin/cat > Jun 27 22:01:19 ashburton /kernel: pid 23490 (cat), uid 0: exited on signal 1 1 (core dumped) > Segmentation fault - core dumped > # /bin/cat > foo > foo > # > > The interesting thing is that according to the coredumps, it consistantly > appears to die in the first getenv() inside setlocale() when walking the > environ list. It's being a damn nuisance to check because the slightest > change makes it work.. ie: under truss or ktrace, gdb, etc, it works fine. > Multiple different cat binaries all do this - including one I compiled with > -g - but they only misbehave under /bin/sh. Something funny about the > environment passing perhaps? > > This is on the small kernel BTW, so the size of the kernel seems to affect > things, but not eliminate the problems. > > Cheers, > -Peter This is getting stranger by the minute... If I do this to cat.c: main() { ... write(1, "A", 1); setlocale(LC_CTYPE, ""); write(1, "A", 1); ... Then it works. If I take away either added write() syscall, it fails. If I change it to this, it works too: setlocale(LC_CTYPE, ""); write(1, "A", 1); while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "benstuv")) != -1) { write(1, "A", 1); switch (ch) { .. even though the second write() is never executed. If I compile without optimization, cat seems to work always. This is bizzare. Why cat? Why with the different kernels does it pick mount_nfs or sysctl to screw up, and only then when called from /bin/sh. I have saved a copy of the (-O) assembler code from a working and non-working version of cat.c. (reminder: it only fails when run from sh, eg in /etc/rc or under make.) Oh, also, according to the console: pal VMS PALcode V1.20-5, OSF PALcode V1.22-6 version V5.1-4 Feb 12 1998 15:40:06 If I look at the firmware updates directory, the current 5_4 release is labelled: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ April 1999 + AlphaPC 164SX Firmware + + README-FIRST + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. Latest Firmware Update Revisions SRM V5.4-1 VMS PALcode V1.20-6 Unix PALcode V1.22-6 The Unix palcode is the same version, but the SRM release is a newer. Does it seem worthwhile to try to update SRM? Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 9: 9:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3114A14D4F; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 09:09:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA15218; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:09:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:09:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: obrien@freebsd.org Subject: latest egcs-devel port compile for anyone? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1019580639-930499794=:22752" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1019580639-930499794=:22752 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While trying to figure out why the KDE port doesn't compile on the Alpha (really a Qt problem it seems), I decided to try the egcs-devel port to see if it might be a compiler- related problem. The build dies with the following error: gmake[2]: Entering directory `/a/ports/lang/egcs-devel/work/egcs-19990623/gcc' stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/ -B/usr/local/alpha-portbld-freebsd4.0/bin/ -DIN_GCC -DHAIFA -O2 -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./config -I./../include \ -DGCC_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-portbld-freebsd4.0/gcc-2.95/include\" \ -DGPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-portbld-freebsd4.0/gcc-2.95/include/g++\" \ -DLOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/include\" \ -DCROSS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-portbld-freebsd4.0/gcc-2.95/../../../../alpha-portbld-freebsd4.0/sys-include\" \ -DTOOL_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-portbld-freebsd4.0/gcc-2.95/../../../../alpha-portbld-freebsd4.0/include\" \ -c `echo ./cccp.c | sed 's,^\./,,'` cccp.c: In function `vnotice': cccp.c:9290: incompatible type for argument 3 of `vfprintf' gmake[2]: *** [cccp.o] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/a/ports/lang/egcs-devel/work/egcs-19990623/gcc' gmake[1]: *** [bootstrap] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/a/ports/lang/egcs-devel/work/egcs-19990623/gcc' gmake: *** [bootstrap] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. The full build log is also attached. Has anyone run across this problem? Any suggestions on how to fix it? 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freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 9:32: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF5A14EC6 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 09:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26440; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:03:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:03:46 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Peter Wemm Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-Reply-To: <19990627155406.CCF9181@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > Doug Rabson wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > [..] > > > > Anybody got any bright ideas about this? (apart from run the memory test > er > > > > in SRM that is..) > > > > > > Maybe the kernel doesn't fit in its memory region? You could try enabling > > > the debug printfs in alpha_init() where it reads the memory cluster > > > information. > > > > Another datapoint: > > > > # /bin/cat > > Jun 27 22:01:19 ashburton /kernel: pid 23490 (cat), uid 0: exited on signal 1 > 1 (core dumped) > > Segmentation fault - core dumped > > # /bin/cat > > foo > > foo > > # > > > > The interesting thing is that according to the coredumps, it consistantly > > appears to die in the first getenv() inside setlocale() when walking the > > environ list. It's being a damn nuisance to check because the slightest > > change makes it work.. ie: under truss or ktrace, gdb, etc, it works fine. > > Multiple different cat binaries all do this - including one I compiled with > > -g - but they only misbehave under /bin/sh. Something funny about the > > environment passing perhaps? > > > > This is on the small kernel BTW, so the size of the kernel seems to affect > > things, but not eliminate the problems. > > > > Cheers, > > -Peter > > This is getting stranger by the minute... > > If I do this to cat.c: > main() { > ... > write(1, "A", 1); > setlocale(LC_CTYPE, ""); > write(1, "A", 1); > ... > Then it works. If I take away either added write() syscall, it fails. > If I change it to this, it works too: > setlocale(LC_CTYPE, ""); > write(1, "A", 1); > > while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "benstuv")) != -1) { > write(1, "A", 1); > switch (ch) { > .. even though the second write() is never executed. > > If I compile without optimization, cat seems to work always. This is > bizzare. Why cat? Why with the different kernels does it pick mount_nfs > or sysctl to screw up, and only then when called from /bin/sh. > > I have saved a copy of the (-O) assembler code from a working and non-working > version of cat.c. (reminder: it only fails when run from sh, eg in /etc/rc > or under make.) > > Oh, also, according to the console: > pal VMS PALcode V1.20-5, OSF PALcode V1.22-6 > version V5.1-4 Feb 12 1998 15:40:06 > > If I look at the firmware updates directory, the current 5_4 release is > labelled: > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ April 1999 > + AlphaPC 164SX Firmware + > + README-FIRST + > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > 1. Latest Firmware Update Revisions > SRM V5.4-1 > VMS PALcode V1.20-6 > Unix PALcode V1.22-6 > > The Unix palcode is the same version, but the SRM release is a newer. Does > it seem worthwhile to try to update SRM? Its worth a try. You should be able to just put the relavent fwupdate.exe onto a floppy and use SRM's fwupdate command. It will read the floppy (extremely slowly) then ask you some silly question about option disks which you should ignore. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 9:43:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from arc.hq.cti.ru (arc.hq.cti.ru [195.34.40.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C634614FE1 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 09:42:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by arc.hq.cti.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id UAA34249; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:42:16 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00502; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:44:08 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199906271644.UAA00502@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Doug Rabson , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dmitrij Tejblum Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:54:06 +0800." <19990627155406.CCF9181@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:44:08 +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I once noticed that our pmap miss some calls to alpha_pal_imb(). I did suspect it may cause problems like the ones you see. Unfortunately, I did almost nothing to fix that, but still have plans :-(. At that time, I made this change to pmap.c (cut & pasted) @@ -2176,6 +2183,8 @@ *pte = newpte; if (origpte) pmap_invalidate_page(pmap, va); + if (prot & VM_PROT_EXECUTE) + alpha_pal_imb(); } } and probably didn't see such gremlins since that, but it may be coincidence. (I got a feeling that the weird things I seen in a nightmare, not in reality...) (I suspect a little it may be 164sx specific.) Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 11:18: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gate.keisu.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ns06.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.68.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 962B314D00 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:18:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: (qmail 30189 invoked from network); 27 Jun 1999 18:18:01 -0000 Received: from sylph.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (10.6.1.20) by ns06.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jun 1999 18:18:01 -0000 Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [10.6.1.30]) by sylph.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACBA2DAA9; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:18:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp by ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.9.3/sat-V0.6) id DAA49222; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:17:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:17:59 +0900 Message-ID: <14198.27351.32304.92066L@ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa To: sprice@hiwaay.net Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest egcs-devel port compile for anyone? In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:09:54 -0500 (CDT)" References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.0 (Kokomo) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/21.2 (beta13) (Demeter) (i386-unknown-freebsd3.1) X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7:#j7i14gu$ jgR\S*&C3R/pJX wrote: > The full build log is also attached. Has anyone run across > this problem? Any suggestions on how to fix it? I think removing patch-am(a patch against t-freebsd) will build it. (I have not checked yet.) __gnuc_va_list and _BSD_VA_LIST is a little different on alpha. -- /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: finger -l simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 11:50:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from osbie.layer8.net (osbie.layer8.net [166.88.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D30F614C85 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:50:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from black@osbie.layer8.net) Received: (qmail 99920 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Jun 1999 18:50:16 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:50:16 -0700 From: Ben Black To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PC164SX conversion to SRM? Message-ID: <19990627115015.D97236@layer8.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got no response when asking this before, so I'll add in a bit more data and see if anyone can help out. Having failed completely to update the firmware through the AlphaBIOS GUI, I switched to the fail-safe boot. The output is as follows: *** keyboard not plugged in... ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5.f3.f2.f1.f0. ef.ee.ed.probing hose 0, PCI probing PCI-to-ISA bridge, bus 1 bus 0, slot 5 -- pka -- QLogic ISP1020 bus 0, slot 6 -- fwa -- DEC PCI FDDI bus 0, slot 7 -- eia -- Intel 82558 Ethernet bus 0, slot 8, function 1 -- dqa -- Cypress 82C693 IDE bus 0, slot 8, function 2 -- dqb -- Cypress 82C693 IDE ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7. Checking dva0 for the option firmware files. . . If you have a floppy containing option firmware, Please insert it now and hit when ready. Option firmware not copied. latest fwupdate.exe binary on it. Apparently a raw firmware image is needed (?). I attempted to manually specify the various files involved using Update fw -path dva0:fwupdate.exe with similar results. The output of the list command is: Device Current Revision Filename Update Revision fsb 3.1 fsb_fw 3.1 fw 5.62-1 nt_fw Missing file fwa0 2.46 dfxaa_fw Missing file Any help in getting this switched to SRM console is greatly appreciated. Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 11:51:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187CD14C85; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA08305; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:51:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:51:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Hidetoshi Shimokawa Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest egcs-devel port compile for anyone? In-Reply-To: <14198.27351.32304.92066L@ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: # I think removing patch-am(a patch against t-freebsd) will build it. # (I have not checked yet.) It appears to have helped. It is not done building yet, but it has gone much further that it has before. :) # __gnuc_va_list and _BSD_VA_LIST is a little different on alpha. Yep. I thought the following patch would have helped but it didn't. --- gcc/ginclude/va-alpha.h.orig Sun Jun 27 13:06:18 1999 +++ gcc/ginclude/va-alpha.h Sun Jun 27 13:06:50 1999 @@ -19,6 +19,7 @@ typedef struct { char *__base; /* Pointer to first integer register. */ int __offset; /* Byte offset of args so far. */ + int __pad; } __gnuc_va_list; #endif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 12: 1:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles519.castles.com [208.214.165.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4435014FB5 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05132; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906271858.LAA05132@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ben Black Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164SX conversion to SRM? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:50:16 PDT." <19990627115015.D97236@layer8.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:58:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I got no response when asking this before, so I'll add in a bit more data > and see if anyone can help out. > > Having failed completely to update the firmware through the AlphaBIOS GUI, > I switched to the fail-safe boot. The output is as follows: You can't do it any other way. You need to find one of the old-style "fwupdate.exe" files (the large ones) and an SRM ROM image that will both fit on a floppy. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 12: 2:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679BA14FB5 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:02:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (iras-2-64.ucdavis.edu [169.237.16.192]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08050; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:02:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA76311; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:02:37 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:02:35 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Hidetoshi Shimokawa Cc: sprice@hiwaay.net, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest egcs-devel port compile for anyone? Message-ID: <19990627120235.A76186@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <14198.27351.32304.92066L@ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <14198.27351.32304.92066L@ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp>; from Hidetoshi Shimokawa on Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 03:17:59AM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I think removing patch-am(a patch against t-freebsd) will build it. > (I have not checked yet.) > > __gnuc_va_list and _BSD_VA_LIST is a little different on alpha. Since such a patch is the way EGCS is going, it would be best if we can fix the differences in __gnuc_va_list and _BSD_VA_LIST on the Alpha. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 12:15:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D276150D2 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:15:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18189; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA24837; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:15:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:15:42 -0400 (EDT) To: Mike Smith Cc: Ben Black , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164SX conversion to SRM? In-Reply-To: <199906271858.LAA05132@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <19990627115015.D97236@layer8.net> <199906271858.LAA05132@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14198.30029.273660.336400@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith writes: > > I got no response when asking this before, so I'll add in a bit more data > > and see if anyone can help out. > > > > Having failed completely to update the firmware through the AlphaBIOS GUI, > > I switched to the fail-safe boot. The output is as follows: > > You can't do it any other way. You need to find one of the old-style > "fwupdate.exe" files (the large ones) and an SRM ROM image that will > both fit on a floppy. > Hint: you can get the srm image at ftp://ftp.decsy.ru/alpha/FirmWare/164SX/SRM-T4.9/sx164srm.rom Try to find a later fwupdate.exe (the one at that site gave us problems when attempting to update the 164sx at USENIX). I've left the one we used at USENIX at http://www.freebsd.org/~gallatin/fwupdate.exe Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 12:41: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from osbie.layer8.net (osbie.layer8.net [166.88.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B956714CCF for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from black@osbie.layer8.net) Received: (qmail 211 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Jun 1999 19:41:00 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:41:00 -0700 From: Ben Black To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164SX conversion to SRM? Message-ID: <19990627124100.F97236@layer8.net> References: <19990627115015.D97236@layer8.net> <199906271858.LAA05132@dingo.cdrom.com> <14198.30029.273660.336400@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <14198.30029.273660.336400@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from Andrew Gallatin on Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 03:15:42PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It worked! Thanks so much! On Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 03:15:42PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Mike Smith writes: > > > I got no response when asking this before, so I'll add in a bit more data > > > and see if anyone can help out. > > > > > > Having failed completely to update the firmware through the AlphaBIOS GUI, > > > I switched to the fail-safe boot. The output is as follows: > > > > You can't do it any other way. You need to find one of the old-style > > "fwupdate.exe" files (the large ones) and an SRM ROM image that will > > both fit on a floppy. > > > > Hint: you can get the srm image at > ftp://ftp.decsy.ru/alpha/FirmWare/164SX/SRM-T4.9/sx164srm.rom > > Try to find a later fwupdate.exe (the one at that site gave us > problems when attempting to update the 164sx at USENIX). I've left > the one we used at USENIX at > http://www.freebsd.org/~gallatin/fwupdate.exe > > Drew > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin > Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu > Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- --b To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 12:43:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C14B14CCF for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18574; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA24917; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:43:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:43:20 -0400 (EDT) To: Ben Black Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164SX conversion to SRM? In-Reply-To: <19990627124100.F97236@layer8.net> References: <19990627115015.D97236@layer8.net> <199906271858.LAA05132@dingo.cdrom.com> <14198.30029.273660.336400@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <19990627124100.F97236@layer8.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14198.32427.254840.779538@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ben Black writes: > It worked! Thanks so much! Great! Remember: its your turn to answer this question the next time it comes up ;-) Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 12:45:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles519.castles.com [208.214.165.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351BF14CCF for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:45:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05466; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906271941.MAA05466@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ben Black Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Mike Smith , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164SX conversion to SRM? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:41:00 PDT." <19990627124100.F97236@layer8.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:41:39 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It worked! Thanks so much! Cool. For future reference, I've been collecting a few sets of firmware update tools at http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/alpha. At the moment I only have LX and SX sets; any that other people might have would be appreciated. > On Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 03:15:42PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Mike Smith writes: > > > > I got no response when asking this before, so I'll add in a bit more data > > > > and see if anyone can help out. > > > > > > > > Having failed completely to update the firmware through the AlphaBIOS GUI, > > > > I switched to the fail-safe boot. The output is as follows: > > > > > > You can't do it any other way. You need to find one of the old-style > > > "fwupdate.exe" files (the large ones) and an SRM ROM image that will > > > both fit on a floppy. > > > > > > > Hint: you can get the srm image at > > ftp://ftp.decsy.ru/alpha/FirmWare/164SX/SRM-T4.9/sx164srm.rom > > > > Try to find a later fwupdate.exe (the one at that site gave us > > problems when attempting to update the 164sx at USENIX). I've left > > the one we used at USENIX at > > http://www.freebsd.org/~gallatin/fwupdate.exe > > > > Drew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin > > Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu > > Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > -- > --b > -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 12:48:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFE514EFF for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:48:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637ED82; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:48:47 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Mike Smith , Ben Black , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164SX conversion to SRM? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:15:42 -0400." <14198.30029.273660.336400@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:48:47 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990627194847.637ED82@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Mike Smith writes: > > > I got no response when asking this before, so I'll add in a bit more dat a > > > and see if anyone can help out. > > > > > > Having failed completely to update the firmware through the AlphaBIOS GU I, > > > I switched to the fail-safe boot. The output is as follows: > > > > You can't do it any other way. You need to find one of the old-style > > "fwupdate.exe" files (the large ones) and an SRM ROM image that will > > both fit on a floppy. > > > > Hint: you can get the srm image at > ftp://ftp.decsy.ru/alpha/FirmWare/164SX/SRM-T4.9/sx164srm.rom > > Try to find a later fwupdate.exe (the one at that site gave us > problems when attempting to update the 164sx at USENIX). I've left > the one we used at USENIX at > http://www.freebsd.org/~gallatin/fwupdate.exe I'm rather confused about the whole thing. Is this for initial bootstrap to SRM? Or is this required for everything? What are the V5.4 sx164_5_4.sys and sx164_5_4.exe and fwupdate.exe in the alphapc164sx directory on ftp.digital.com then? They are 900K+ each. Or do you use the new fwupdate.exe *and* the old sx164srm.rom file for initial bootstrap? Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 12:57:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C9514DAA for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18731; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA24943; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:57:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:57:07 -0400 (EDT) To: Peter Wemm Cc: Mike Smith , Ben Black , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164SX conversion to SRM? In-Reply-To: <19990627194847.637ED82@overcee.netplex.com.au> References: <14198.30029.273660.336400@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <19990627194847.637ED82@overcee.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14198.32863.362230.864129@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm writes: > > I'm rather confused about the whole thing. Is this for initial bootstrap > to SRM? Or is this required for everything? > Yes, this hack is for the initial AlphaBios->SRM bootstrap. > What are the V5.4 sx164_5_4.sys and sx164_5_4.exe and fwupdate.exe in > the alphapc164sx directory on ftp.digital.com then? They are 900K+ each. Those can be used once you're alread running SRM. See below.. > Or do you use the new fwupdate.exe *and* the old sx164srm.rom file for > initial bootstrap? "Sort of." You need to have both the fwupdate.exe and the srm.rom on the same floppy disk to be able to do the initial switch into the SRM console from the alphabios. Once you've switched into the SRM console, you can upgrade your firmware from the normal sources (eg, the ones you mentioned). The problem is that the srm.rom is hard to come by. We used an older fwupdate.exe simply because the one we found at the same site that had the srm.rom file was broken, and the later ones were too large to fit on a floppy alongside the srm.rom file. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 13:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B236D15176 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7CB81; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:50:02 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dmitrij Tejblum Cc: Doug Rabson , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:44:08 +0400." <199906271644.UAA00502@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:50:02 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990627205002.0C7CB81@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > I once noticed that our pmap miss some calls to alpha_pal_imb(). I did > suspect it may cause problems like the ones you see. Unfortunately, I > did almost nothing to fix that, but still have plans :-(. At that time, > I made this change to pmap.c (cut & pasted) > > @@ -2176,6 +2183,8 @@ > *pte = newpte; > if (origpte) > pmap_invalidate_page(pmap, va); > + if (prot & VM_PROT_EXECUTE) > + alpha_pal_imb(); > } > } > > and probably didn't see such gremlins since that, but it may be > coincidence. (I got a feeling that the weird things I seen in a > nightmare, not in reality...) > > (I suspect a little it may be 164sx specific.) > > Dima I went a bit further and it seems to have fixed my mystery problems: Index: pmap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/pmap.c,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -c -r1.26 pmap.c *** pmap.c 1999/06/10 20:40:55 1.26 --- pmap.c 1999/06/27 20:41:52 *************** *** 728,745 **** static void pmap_invalidate_page(pmap_t pmap, vm_offset_t va) { ! if (pmap_isactive(pmap)) ALPHA_TBIS(va); ! else pmap_invalidate_asn(pmap); } static void pmap_invalidate_all(pmap_t pmap) { ! if (pmap_isactive(pmap)) ALPHA_TBIA(); ! else pmap_invalidate_asn(pmap); } --- 728,747 ---- static void pmap_invalidate_page(pmap_t pmap, vm_offset_t va) { ! if (pmap_isactive(pmap)) { ALPHA_TBIS(va); ! alpha_pal_imb(); ! } else pmap_invalidate_asn(pmap); } static void pmap_invalidate_all(pmap_t pmap) { ! if (pmap_isactive(pmap)) { ALPHA_TBIA(); ! alpha_pal_imb(); ! } else pmap_invalidate_asn(pmap); } *************** *** 2176,2181 **** --- 2178,2185 ---- *pte = newpte; if (origpte) pmap_invalidate_page(pmap, va); + if (prot & VM_PROT_EXECUTE) + alpha_pal_imb(); } } I'm pretty sure this is overkill, but it doesn't seem to hurt so far. I have not tried your single patch though, I got out the sledgehammer to see if I could get some sanity. I'm not sure if the alpha_pal_tbi() functions do an implied imb as well or not. If so, then the first chunks are irrelevant. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 14:40: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from arc.hq.cti.ru (arc.hq.cti.ru [195.34.40.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967AC14C0B for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by arc.hq.cti.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id BAA36097; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:39:40 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03092; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:41:29 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199906272141.BAA03092@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Dmitrij Tejblum , Doug Rabson , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dmitrij Tejblum Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:50:02 +0800." <19990627205002.0C7CB81@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:41:29 +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: > I went a bit further and it seems to have fixed my mystery problems: One line in your program completely change its behavior, and you claim several lines in the kernel fix it? ;-) Cool! ;-) > [...] > I'm pretty sure this is overkill, but it doesn't seem to hurt so far. I > have not tried your single patch though, I got out the sledgehammer to see > if I could get some sanity. I'm not sure if the alpha_pal_tbi() functions > do an implied imb as well or not. If so, then the first chunks are > irrelevant. I don't think so. While your patch is overkill, it still seem to miss imb in pmap_enter_quick()... Dima > > Cheers, > -Peter > -- > Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 15:23:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C68214CA1 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D80781; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:23:32 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dmitrij Tejblum Cc: Doug Rabson , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:41:29 +0400." <199906272141.BAA03092@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:23:32 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990627222332.8D80781@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > I went a bit further and it seems to have fixed my mystery problems: > > One line in your program completely change its behavior, and you claim > several lines in the kernel fix it? ;-) Cool! ;-) I was suspicious of something along those lines but the Alpha system is quite new to me. I also kept thinking about Jason Thorpe's "you aren't doing all the required imb's" comment before. I also note that DEC/Compaq have explicitly said that their upcoming CPU's are far more strict about certain things, I wonder if this is one? This one isn't a particularly new CPU though. > > [...] > > I'm pretty sure this is overkill, but it doesn't seem to hurt so far. I > > have not tried your single patch though, I got out the sledgehammer to see > > if I could get some sanity. I'm not sure if the alpha_pal_tbi() functions > > do an implied imb as well or not. If so, then the first chunks are > > irrelevant. > > I don't think so. To which part? :-) > While your patch is overkill, it still seem to miss imb in > pmap_enter_quick()... Yeah, seems so.. pmap_enter_quick() is, by definition, used on the current pmap. We only need alpha_pal_tbi() calls when a mapping is being changed or removed, yes? pmap_enter_quick() only seems to be used for preinitializing pt's and for page fault clustering.. > Dima Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 15:32:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.NMSU.Edu (bubba.NMSU.Edu [128.123.3.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EBA14D31 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian@nmsu.edu) Received: from dns1.NMSU.Edu (dns1.NMSU.Edu [128.123.3.5]) by bubba.NMSU.Edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA21482; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:31:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wilma.NMSU.Edu (wilma.NMSU.Edu [128.123.3.12]) by dns1.NMSU.Edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA22872; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nmsu.edu (yacko [128.123.3.8]) by wilma.NMSU.Edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA28197; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:31:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3776A67C.2F01EB5C@nmsu.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:32:28 -0600 From: Ian Logan Organization: Computing and Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Black Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164SX conversion to SRM? References: <19990627115015.D97236@layer8.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How were you trying to load SRM with AlphaBIOS? I used AlphaBIOS to convert to SRM without any problems on my 164SX about 2 months ago. If I remember correctly all I did was create a dos formated floppy with the srm164sx.rom file on it, and then I told AlphaBIOS to update the flash. I'm really busy at the moment, but after thursday life should be calmer and I can try to work out exactly what steps I took if you're still having problems. Ian -- Ian Logan Computing & Networking New Mexico State University Email: ian@nmsu.edu Phone: 505-646-6034 Fax: 505-646-5278 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 15:49:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from arc.hq.cti.ru (arc.hq.cti.ru [195.34.40.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E7014D31 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by arc.hq.cti.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id CAA36554; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:49:19 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04434; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:51:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199906272251.CAA04434@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Dmitrij Tejblum , Doug Rabson , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dmitrij Tejblum Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:23:32 +0800." <19990627222332.8D80781@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:51:10 +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: > I was suspicious of something along those lines but the Alpha system is > quite new to me. I also kept thinking about Jason Thorpe's "you aren't > doing all the required imb's" comment before. I also note that DEC/Compaq > have explicitly said that their upcoming CPU's are far more strict about > certain things, I wonder if this is one? This one isn't a particularly new > CPU though. FWIW, http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/alpha/models.html says: AlphaPC 164SX systems include a 21164PC microprocessor instead of the 21164A microprocessor used by the other supported systems. The 21164PC microprocessor uses a different cache architecture than the 21164A microprocessor. > > > [...] > > > I'm pretty sure this is overkill, but it doesn't seem to hurt so far. I > > > have not tried your single patch though, I got out the sledgehammer to see > > > if I could get some sanity. I'm not sure if the alpha_pal_tbi() functions > > > do an implied imb as well or not. If so, then the first chunks are > > > irrelevant. > > > > I don't think so. > > To which part? :-) Sorry, I mean: I don't think alpha_pal_tbi() functions do an implied imb. > > > While your patch is overkill, it still seem to miss imb in > > pmap_enter_quick()... > > Yeah, seems so.. pmap_enter_quick() is, by definition, used on the current > pmap. We only need alpha_pal_tbi() calls when a mapping is being changed or > removed, yes? Umm, probably. (I can only guess, I don't have anything resembling the alpha architecture manual :-(). If so, it may very well apply to imb, and then I apparently was wrong and pmap_enter_quick() don't need an imb... Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 16:42:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF38714E84 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA21228; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:42:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Hidetoshi Shimokawa , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest egcs-devel port compile for anyone? In-Reply-To: <19990627120235.A76186@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, David O'Brien wrote: # > __gnuc_va_list and _BSD_VA_LIST is a little different on alpha. # # Since such a patch is the way EGCS is going, it would be best if we can # fix the differences in __gnuc_va_list and _BSD_VA_LIST on the Alpha. Agreed. Anyone know the technical reasons why they both can't be made 'char *'? I'm also looking into helping Pedro Giffuni with porting willows to the Alpha and I tripped on this same thing but in vsprintf(3) instead of vfprintf(3). :/ -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 27 21:14:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8E21524A for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (iras-2-23.ucdavis.edu [169.237.16.151]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09771; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id EAA04446; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:14:06 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:14:06 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Steve Price , Hidetoshi Shimokawa , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest egcs-devel port compile for anyone? Message-ID: <19990627211406.D2142@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990627120235.A76186@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Steve Price on Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 06:42:19PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > # Since such a patch is the way EGCS is going, it would be best if we can > # fix the differences in __gnuc_va_list and _BSD_VA_LIST on the Alpha. > > Agreed. Anyone know the technical reasons why they both can't > be made 'char *'? Nope. Thus must just agree (between either "char *" or "void *"). The current ports/egcs-devel/patches/patch-aq should do this. Is this not working on the Alpha? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 28 0:53:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gate.keisu.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ns06.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.68.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78416153B3 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: (qmail 32498 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 07:53:25 -0000 Received: from sylph.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (10.6.1.20) by ns06.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 07:53:25 -0000 Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [10.6.1.30]) by sylph.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766752DAA9; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:53:24 +0900 (JST) Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp by ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.9.3/sat-V0.6) id QAA50924; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:53:24 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:53:24 +0900 Message-ID: <14199.10740.176020.31261G@ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa To: sprice@hiwaay.net Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest egcs-devel port compile for anyone? In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:51:34 -0500 (CDT)" References: <14198.27351.32304.92066L@ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.0 (Kokomo) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/21.2 (beta13) (Demeter) (i386-unknown-freebsd3.1) X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7:#j7i14gu$ jgR\S*&C3R/pJX wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: > > # I think removing patch-am(a patch against t-freebsd) will build it. > # (I have not checked yet.) > > It appears to have helped. It is not done building yet, but > it has gone much further that it has before. :) > > # __gnuc_va_list and _BSD_VA_LIST is a little different on alpha. > > Yep. I thought the following patch would have helped but it > didn't. > > --- gcc/ginclude/va-alpha.h.orig Sun Jun 27 13:06:18 1999 > +++ gcc/ginclude/va-alpha.h Sun Jun 27 13:06:50 1999 > @@ -19,6 +19,7 @@ > typedef struct { > char *__base; /* Pointer to first integer register. */ > int __offset; /* Byte offset of args so far. */ > + int __pad; > } __gnuc_va_list; > #endif Another workaround is removing patch-an and put the following patch, then fixincl will replace _BSD_VA_LIST_ with __gnuc_va_list. --- gcc/fixinc/inclhack.def.orig Fri Jun 18 16:00:06 1999 +++ gcc/fixinc/inclhack.def Mon Jun 28 15:31:45 1999 @@ -1367,7 +1367,7 @@ sed -e 's@ va_list @ __gnuc_va_list @' \\ -e 's@ va_list)@ __gnuc_va_list)@' \\ - -e 's@ _BSD_VA_LIST_));@ __gnuc_va_list));@' \\ + -e 's@ _BSD_VA_LIST_))@ __gnuc_va_list))@' \\ -e 's@ _VA_LIST_));@ __gnuc_va_list));@' \\ -e 's@ va_list@ __va_list__@' \\ -e 's@\\*va_list@*__va_list__@' \\ --- gcc/fixinc/inclhack.sh.orig Mon Jun 28 15:40:11 1999 +++ gcc/fixinc/inclhack.sh Mon Jun 28 15:47:24 1999 @@ -1955,7 +1955,7 @@ sed -e 's@ va_list @ __gnuc_va_list @' \ -e 's@ va_list)@ __gnuc_va_list)@' \ - -e 's@ _BSD_VA_LIST_));@ __gnuc_va_list));@' \ + -e 's@ _BSD_VA_LIST_))@ __gnuc_va_list))@' \ -e 's@ _VA_LIST_));@ __gnuc_va_list));@' \ -e 's@ va_list@ __va_list__@' \ -e 's@\*va_list@*__va_list__@' \ --- gcc/fixinc/fixincl.x.orig Mon Jun 28 15:53:20 1999 +++ gcc/fixinc/fixincl.x Mon Jun 28 15:59:00 1999 @@ -2324,7 +2324,7 @@ \n\ sed -e 's@ va_list @ __gnuc_va_list @' \\\n\ -e 's@ va_list)@ __gnuc_va_list)@' \\\n\ - -e 's@ _BSD_VA_LIST_));@ __gnuc_va_list));@' \\\n\ + -e 's@ _BSD_VA_LIST_))@ __gnuc_va_list))@' \\\n\ -e 's@ _VA_LIST_));@ __gnuc_va_list));@' \\\n\ -e 's@ va_list@ __va_list__@' \\\n\ -e 's@\\*va_list@*__va_list__@' \\\n\ -- /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: finger -l simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 28 10:24:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw1a.lmco.com (mailgw1a.lmco.com [192.31.106.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FBA14F19 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james.n.record@lmco.com) Received: from emss02g01.ems.lmco.com (emss02g01.ems.lmco.com [198.7.15.39]) by mailgw1a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12543 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38887) id <0FE100E01SD78H@lmco.com> for alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:24:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from emss02i01.ems.lmco.com ([198.7.15.35]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38887) with ESMTP id <0FE100J8ASD0B3@lmco.com> for alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:24:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by emss02i01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:23:33 -0600 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:24:29 -0600 From: "Record, James N" Subject: Booting question To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <60DE3FC656A5D1118E110000F804A7830485243B@emss02m07.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to have a DEC 3000/300LX boot on power up with only an ethernet attached: no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor, no terminal connected to the serial port. So far it only boots with the keyboard and mouse attached. I don't have to type "boot". It boots automatically. Is having the keyboard and mouse attached required to boot? Jim Record Lockheed Martin Astronautics - Image Understanding Group 303-977-0523 303-977-7946 - fax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 28 10:33: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from djk.saintl.com (djk.saintl.com [192.133.52.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B37C153A6 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djk@djk.saintl.com) Received: (from djk@localhost) by djk.saintl.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA01224 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:36:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:36:07 -0700 From: Dirk Kleinhesselink Message-Id: <199906281736.KAA01224@djk.saintl.com> To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: EIDE support in FreeBSD alpha ? Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a PC164 alpha system that has no SCSI controller and had NT with the ARC console. I downloaded the latest SRM firmware and was able to switch to SRM. When I do a show device, the SRM reports DVA0, DQA0 and DQA1 -- it also shows the models of the ide disks on DQA0 and DQA1 -- these are ide disks on the primary IDE controller. It does NOT report the ATAPI CD-ROM that is on the secondary IDE controller. I tried to boot up FreeBSD with the 4.0 snapshot kernel and mfsroot disks from 5/24. The floppies booted OK and I got to an installation screen, but it said I had no disks. For what it's worth, I also have OpenBSD 2.5 and I decided to see what would happen if I tried to boot this up. To my pleasant surprise, OpenBSD 2.5 sees the IDE controllers and both disks and the ATAPI CD-rom. I was able to install OpenBSD and run it, except for X-windows as OpenBSD seems only to have support for tga video on alpha. Given this, it seems that FreeBSD should be able to check for the ide controllers and attached devices. I have a Tekram DC-390F Ultra-Wide SCSI controller that is in an Intel box with a CD-Writer. This controller is very reasonably priced these days and has the 53C875 chip in it (I paid $75 for mine). I popped it in my PC164 and SRM recognizes it, so if anyone is looking for a cheap SCSI controller, this one seems to work. Dirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 28 10:45:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC00153DD for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id TAA15210; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:42:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00866; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:37:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199906281737.TAA00866@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: DEC Server 530x? In-Reply-To: <199906260948.LAA98830@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Jun 26, 1999 11:48:47 am" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:37:25 +0200 (CEST) Cc: gallatin@cs.duke.edu, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, port-alpha@netbsd.org X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Wilko Bulte wrote ... > As Andrew Gallatin wrote ... > > > > Anybody know what the heck an AlphaServer1200 is? Is it a scaled down > > rawhide? I ask because a NECX is selling something called the 'Digital > > Server 5300' with a 400Mhz 21164 for $800USD. > > > > According to some of the old DEC info, the 5300 was formerly known as > > the 'AlphaServer 1200 for Windows NT.' And according to some linux > > A, a 'whitebox' Alpha. > > > documentation I've seen, a 1200 is the 'TINCUP' variation of the > > rawhide family. (http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/alpha/rh52-hardware-alpha-3.html) > > > > Anybody know if > > > > a) SRM will run on a 5300 > > It could very well be that it does not. It is from the days DEC tried > to seperately price NT and 'real' Alphas. > > > b) NetBSD will run on a 5300 (or a 1200) as if it were a normal rawhide? > > c) the 5300, like the AS1200, can accept a second CPU? > > I will check this for you with my AXP-guru colleague. Will be monday before > I can followup. He will do some additional digging. There have been a limited number of cpus that really could not run SRM. Most of the whiteboxes can be brought to SRM using a failsafe bootfloppy. He started mumbling that he needed to check some docs. Stay tuned for more info. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 28 11:27:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.in.tu-clausthal.de (zaphod.in.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.100.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2C114C15 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:26:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jc@joerch.org) Received: from eressea.in.tu-clausthal.de (3777be272ffd0@eressea.in.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.100.9]) by zaphod.in.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA02941; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:25:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joerg Czeranski To: Dmitrij Tejblum Cc: alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199906272251.CAA04434@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:25:38 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <5wpPWIW9M$0L6$1@joerch.org> Subject: Re: Hmm!! Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: > [...] (I can only guess, I don't have anything resembling > the alpha architecture manual :-(). [...] On ftp.digital.com and ftp.europe.digital.com: /pub/DEC/info/semiconductor/literature/alphaahb.pdf And there's more interesting stuff in the same directory. joerch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 28 14:54:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A59615488 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24579; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:53:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA01523; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:53:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906282153.OAA01523@vashon.polstra.com> To: peter@netplex.com.au Subject: Re: Hmm!! In-Reply-To: <19990627141124.710CA81@overcee.netplex.com.au> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <19990627141124.710CA81@overcee.netplex.com.au>, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Another datapoint: > > # /bin/cat > Jun 27 22:01:19 ashburton /kernel: pid 23490 (cat), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > Segmentation fault - core dumped > # /bin/cat > foo > foo > # This is _exactly_ the kind of behavior I was seeing on my AlphaPC when I first got it. It mysteriously went away for unknown reasons and I haven't seen it since then. The IMB fixes you posted later look promising. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 29 0: 8: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from noop.colo.erols.net (noop.colo.erols.net [207.96.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68FB14CAE for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:07:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@noop.colo.erols.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=noop.colo.erols.net) by noop.colo.erols.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10yryU-00097Y-00; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:06:34 -0400 To: Mike Smith Cc: Peter Wemm , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: AARGH!! "dead" Alpha 164SX (Was: Re: OK, any pointers on how to use SRM? :-)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:23:39 PDT." <199906262323.QAA00454@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:06:29 -0400 Message-ID: <35063.930639989@noop.colo.erols.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith wrote in message ID <199906262323.QAA00454@dingo.cdrom.com>: > > > > The next good question is.. what's up with softupdates? :-] Hmm.. say, > > No idea. We were unhappy with it at Usenix too. Perhaps I should send > Kirk an Aplha? I have softupdates on the alpha snapshot building machine and its never EVER crashed or had a filesystem problem. Makes me think there is something else going on. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 29 0:27:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE93614D5B; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3692282; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:27:21 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Gary Palmer" Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AARGH!! "dead" Alpha 164SX (Was: Re: OK, any pointers on how to use SRM? :-)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:06:29 -0400." <35063.930639989@noop.colo.erols.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:27:21 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990629072721.3692282@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Gary Palmer" wrote: > Mike Smith wrote in message ID > <199906262323.QAA00454@dingo.cdrom.com>: > > > > > > The next good question is.. what's up with softupdates? :-] Hmm.. say, > > > > No idea. We were unhappy with it at Usenix too. Perhaps I should send > > Kirk an Aplha? > > I have softupdates on the alpha snapshot building machine and its > never EVER crashed or had a filesystem problem. Makes me think there > is something else going on. It's running perfectly now, with allowances for buffer locking though. :-) I just hope the excessive alpha_pal_imb() calls are not too expensive.. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 29 8:37:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (secure.smtp.email.msn.com [207.46.181.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74B214FA9 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:37:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JHowie@msn.com) Received: from JHowie - 216.103.48.12 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:37:38 -0700 Message-ID: <005101bec246$64888380$fe01a8c0@pacbell.net> From: "John Howie" To: Subject: Problem installing on AlphaStation 400 4/233 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:45:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01BEC20B.B7CAE9B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01BEC20B.B7CAE9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, I have a AlphaStation 400 4/233. I upgraded the SRM to v7 (from DEC's = Web-site) and tried to install FreeBSD 3.2 Stable using kern.flp and = mfsroot.flp from the FTP site. Everything seems to load fine but I = cannot select my console type (I am given four options). It appears (if = I read the kernel startup configuration information correctly) that the = kernel is trying to use a serial console for the keyboard. I did (once) = receive an error about my PCXAL keyboard and scan code (0x83, I believe) = shortly after the menu was presented to me. The keyboard works fine in = the system boot menus, the boot process (I can interrupt the autoboot = and query the console value, which is set to prom) and when running = Windows NT. Trying to be smart, I hooked up a laptop running term emulation to the = serial port and while I was able to start the boot process from that, = once FreeBSD started it required me to use the console keyboard instead = (all output is sent to the console screen as well, and not to the serial = port). When I get back to the menu with the four console options the = keyboard is unresponsive and the term emulator does not appear to work. Help! john... ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01BEC20B.B7CAE9B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks,
 
I have a AlphaStation 400 4/233. I upgraded the SRM = to v7=20 (from DEC's Web-site) and tried to install FreeBSD 3.2 Stable using = kern.flp and=20 mfsroot.flp from the FTP site. Everything seems to load fine but I = cannot select=20 my console type (I am given four options). It appears (if I read the = kernel=20 startup configuration information correctly) that the kernel is trying = to use a=20 serial console for the keyboard. I did (once) receive an error = about my=20 PCXAL keyboard and scan code (0x83, I believe) shortly after the menu = was=20 presented to me. The keyboard works fine in the system boot menus, the = boot=20 process (I can interrupt the autoboot and query the console value, which = is set=20 to prom) and when running Windows NT.
 
Trying to be smart, I hooked up a laptop running = term=20 emulation to the serial port and while I was able to start the boot = process from=20 that, once FreeBSD started it required me to use the console keyboard = instead=20 (all output is sent to the console screen as well, and not to the serial = port).=20 When I get back to the menu with the four console options the keyboard = is=20 unresponsive and the term emulator does not appear to work.
 
Help!
 
john...
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01BEC20B.B7CAE9B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 29 12:35:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tad.cetlink.net (tad.cetlink.net [209.198.2.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3480314D87 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@tad.cetlink.net) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tad.cetlink.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id PAA61130; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:35:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jeff) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Organization: CETLink.Net From: Jeff Wheat To: Steve Price Subject: Re: Alpha port Questions Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve, Thanks a bunch... This worked like a charm! Regards, Jeff On 22-Jun-99 Steve Price wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Jeff Wheat wrote: > ># Good day everyone, ># ># I have a few questions regarding FreeBSD-3.2 for the alpha ># platform. I have the system installed and running just fine. My problem ># however is with the ports collections. I am running FreeBSD on a Dec ># AlphaStation 250 4/266. When I attempt to build most things in the ># ports collection by typing "make" in a port directory, configure will ># do something to the tune of "alpha--FreeBSD" when configure tries to ># guess the system type. Going directly into the port work directory ># and running configure by hand usually will return "alpha-unknown-FreeBSD". ># The TCSH port and package both return the following: > > This is because is build from the port's Makefile, bsd.port.mk > forces the target host to alpha--freebsd4.0. When left to its own > accord the ./configure script will find it can't determine the > vendor and replaces it with unknown instead of leaving it blank. > It is completely harmless. :) > ># alpha # set ># version tcsh 6.08.00 (Astron) 1998-10-02 (i386-unknown-FreeBSD) options ># 8b,nls,d ># l,al,sm,rh,color ># alpha# file /usr/local/bin/tcsh ># /usr/local/bin/tcsh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, Alpha, version 1 (FreeBSD), ># stri ># pped ># ># This is of course very wrong... Are there any fixes or work arounds for ># this? > > There wasn't until now. :-) Add the following as patch-ad and > try it again. > > ----- cut here 8<-------------------------------------------------- > --- host.defs.orig Mon Jun 21 20:11:51 1999 > +++ host.defs Mon Jun 21 20:14:16 1999 > @@ -494,10 +494,12 @@ > > newdef : defined(__FreeBSD__) > comment : FreeBSD > +vendor : defined(__alpha) : "digital" > vendor : defined(M_intel) : "intel" > hosttype: : "FreeBSD" > ostype : : "FreeBSD" > -machtype: : "i386" > +machtype: defined(__alpha) : "alpha" > +machtype: defined(M_i386) : "i386" > enddef : > > > ----- cut here 8<-------------------------------------------------- > > BTW, thanks for catching this. The Alpha ports collection is still > in its infancy. My first build only about a month ago had a meager > 1200 out of 2400 possible ports represented. With the last build I > was able to get this number up to 1820 or so. There are still quite > a few (~600) that are just plain broken and no doubt also quite a > few of the 1820 that run but have minor nits to fix. This turned > out to be one of the latter. > > Anyone else that has noticed problems, has patches, or would like > to lend a hand, please let me know. ;) > > Thanks. > > -steve > ># Many thanks in advance... Please reply directly to me as I am not yet ># subscribed ># to any of these lists. ># ># Best regards, ># Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 29 14:52: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0482714E3A for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA49447; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:55:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:55:23 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: John Howie Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing on AlphaStation 400 4/233 In-Reply-To: <005101bec246$64888380$fe01a8c0@pacbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, John Howie wrote: > Folks, > > I have a AlphaStation 400 4/233. I upgraded the SRM to v7 (from DEC's > Web-site) and tried to install FreeBSD 3.2 Stable using kern.flp and > mfsroot.flp from the FTP site. Everything seems to load fine but I > cannot select my console type (I am given four options). It appears > (if I read the kernel startup configuration information correctly) > that the kernel is trying to use a serial console for the keyboard. I > did (once) receive an error about my PCXAL keyboard and scan code > (0x83, I believe) shortly after the menu was presented to me. The > keyboard works fine in the system boot menus, the boot process (I can > interrupt the autoboot and query the console value, which is set to > prom) and when running Windows NT. > > Trying to be smart, I hooked up a laptop running term emulation to the > serial port and while I was able to start the boot process from that, > once FreeBSD started it required me to use the console keyboard > instead (all output is sent to the console screen as well, and not to > the serial port). When I get back to the menu with the four console > options the keyboard is unresponsive and the term emulator does not > appear to work. > > Help! To set the default console to serial, type >>>set console serial at the SRM prompt. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 29 14:55:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (secure.smtp.email.msn.com [207.46.181.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4F915147; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JHowie@msn.com) Received: from JHowie - 216.103.48.12 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:55:04 -0700 Message-ID: <00d201bec27b$202627d0$fe01a8c0@pacbell.net> From: "John Howie" To: , Subject: REPOST: Problem installing on AlphaStation 400 4/233 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:02:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CF_01BEC240.737649A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01BEC240.737649A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, I had a problem with my incoming mail so I am reposting this question. Thanks, john... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Howie=20 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 8:45 AM Subject: Problem installing on AlphaStation 400 4/233 Folks, I have a AlphaStation 400 4/233. I upgraded the SRM to v7 (from DEC's = Web-site) and tried to install FreeBSD 3.2 Stable using kern.flp and = mfsroot.flp from the FTP site. Everything seems to load fine but I = cannot select my console type (I am given four options). It appears (if = I read the kernel startup configuration information correctly) that the = kernel is trying to use a serial console for the keyboard. I did (once) = receive an error about my PCXAL keyboard and scan code (0x83, I believe) = shortly after the menu was presented to me. The keyboard works fine in = the system boot menus, the boot process (I can interrupt the autoboot = and query the console value, which is set to prom) and when running = Windows NT. Trying to be smart, I hooked up a laptop running term emulation to the = serial port and while I was able to start the boot process from that, = once FreeBSD started it required me to use the console keyboard instead = (all output is sent to the console screen as well, and not to the serial = port). When I get back to the menu with the four console options the = keyboard is unresponsive and the term emulator does not appear to work. Help! john... ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01BEC240.737649A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks,
 
I had a problem with my incoming mail so I am = reposting this=20 question.
 
Thanks, john...
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Howie =
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 8:45 AM
Subject: Problem installing on AlphaStation 400 = 4/233

Folks,
 
I have a AlphaStation 400 4/233. I upgraded the SRM = to v7=20 (from DEC's Web-site) and tried to install FreeBSD 3.2 Stable using = kern.flp and=20 mfsroot.flp from the FTP site. Everything seems to load fine but I = cannot select=20 my console type (I am given four options). It appears (if I read the = kernel=20 startup configuration information correctly) that the kernel is trying = to use a=20 serial console for the keyboard. I did (once) receive an error = about my=20 PCXAL keyboard and scan code (0x83, I believe) shortly after the menu = was=20 presented to me. The keyboard works fine in the system boot menus, the = boot=20 process (I can interrupt the autoboot and query the console value, which = is set=20 to prom) and when running Windows NT.
 
Trying to be smart, I hooked up a laptop running = term=20 emulation to the serial port and while I was able to start the boot = process from=20 that, once FreeBSD started it required me to use the console keyboard = instead=20 (all output is sent to the console screen as well, and not to the serial = port).=20 When I get back to the menu with the four console options the keyboard = is=20 unresponsive and the term emulator does not appear to work.
 
Help!
 
john...
------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01BEC240.737649A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 29 15:35:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (secure.smtp.email.msn.com [207.46.181.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E914FF8 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JHowie@msn.com) Received: from JHowie - 216.103.48.12 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:35:40 -0700 Message-ID: <010601bec280$cc435600$fe01a8c0@pacbell.net> From: "John Howie" To: "Doug Rabson" , References: Subject: Re: Problem installing on AlphaStation 400 4/233 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:43:24 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug, Thanks for the tip - unfortunately, I already tried this one and for some reason, when the console is set to serial, I don't get any output on it at all! Thanks anyway, john... ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Rabson To: John Howie Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Problem installing on AlphaStation 400 4/233 > On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, John Howie wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > I have a AlphaStation 400 4/233. I upgraded the SRM to v7 (from DEC's > > Web-site) and tried to install FreeBSD 3.2 Stable using kern.flp and > > mfsroot.flp from the FTP site. Everything seems to load fine but I > > cannot select my console type (I am given four options). It appears > > (if I read the kernel startup configuration information correctly) > > that the kernel is trying to use a serial console for the keyboard. I > > did (once) receive an error about my PCXAL keyboard and scan code > > (0x83, I believe) shortly after the menu was presented to me. The > > keyboard works fine in the system boot menus, the boot process (I can > > interrupt the autoboot and query the console value, which is set to > > prom) and when running Windows NT. > > > > Trying to be smart, I hooked up a laptop running term emulation to the > > serial port and while I was able to start the boot process from that, > > once FreeBSD started it required me to use the console keyboard > > instead (all output is sent to the console screen as well, and not to > > the serial port). When I get back to the menu with the four console > > options the keyboard is unresponsive and the term emulator does not > > appear to work. > > > > Help! > > To set the default console to serial, type > > >>>set console serial > > at the SRM prompt. > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jul 1 19:39:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FEA14F59 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA19900 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:39:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: there's been Qlogic ISP breakage all along....sorry.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At some point recently, allocations for the request/response queues for the ISP started to fail in startup- but I wasn't checking for errors (because the !@*$!($#*(!#! busdma framework is so bloody awkward and I got lazy)... A little auditting and error checking found: Qlogic ISP Driver, FreeBSD CAM Version 0.991, Core Version 1.8 isp0: irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 isp0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 isp0: Ultra Mode Capable isp0: Board Revision 1040B, loaded F/W Revision 7.63.0 isp0: Last F/W revision was 2.10.0 bus_dmamap_load: Too many segs! buf_len = 0x2000 isp0: error 27 loading dma map for DMA request queue isp0: can't setup dma mailboxes de0: irq 1 at device 7.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at CIA irq 1 de0: 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de0: address 00:c0:f0:16:2d:7c isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 isp1: irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 isp1: interrupting at CIA irq 3 isp1: Board Revision 2100, loaded F/W Revision 1.15.37 isp1: Last F/W revision was 1.15.37 bus_dmamap_load: Too many segs! buf_len = 0x2000 isp1: error 27 loading dma map for DMA request queue isp1: can't setup dma mailboxes So, if you've had mysterious crashes, well, this might explain it. I'm chasing down why this fails- basically it's because I *thought* I was asking for a continguous chunk of memory which should get mapped with only one DMA segment- the ISP can't do multiple DMA descriptors to the request/response/FC scratch areas- but apparently I'm getting things back such that I'm getting multiple descriptors. Tsk. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message