From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 4:53: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3B61518A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA16525; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE96E1511A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip231.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.231]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38397370BB for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 07:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA58004; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 06:42:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199907251142.GAA58004@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 06:42:02 -0500 (CDT) From: chris@calldei.com Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12804: [Patch] Spacing error in www/en/news/newsflash.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12804 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] Spacing error in www/en/news/newsflash.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jul 25 04:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none >Environment: newsflash.sgml: $Date: 1999/06/11 01:45:14 $ $Id: newsflash.sgml,v 1.130 1999/06/11 01:45:14 nsj Exp $ >Description: There is an error in the spacing of http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html * 05-Mar-1999The USENIX Association has announced the 1999 USENIX Annual Technical Conference, scheduled for 06-11 June 1999 in Monterey, CA, USA. Our own Jordan Hubbard is chairing the FREENIX Track, devoted to open source software's latest developments and interesting applications. * 01-Mar-1999A secure server has been set up to accept monetary donations to the FreeBSD Project. For more information, see: http://www.freebsdmall.com/donate/. * 01-Mar-1999FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE CDs are now shipping. Subscribers should receive their CDs soon. See http://www.cdrom.com/ to order. >How-To-Repeat: http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html >Fix: Index: newsflash.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/news/newsflash.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.130 diff -u -r1.130 newsflash.sgml --- newsflash.sgml 1999/06/11 01:45:14 1.130 +++ newsflash.sgml 1999/07/25 11:35:12 @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ FreeBSD community can help one another out. --> -
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  • 05-Mar-1999 The USENIX Association has announced the 1999 USENIX Annual Technical Conference, scheduled for 06-11 June 1999 in Monterey, @@ -84,12 +84,12 @@ to open source software's latest developments and interesting applications.
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  • 01-Mar-1999 FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE CDs are now shipping. Subscribers should receive their CDs soon. See http://www.cdrom.com/ to order.
    • >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 7:15:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D27914CE2 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 07:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@freebsd.org) Received: from modem-76.scandium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.10.76] ident=[0Q3W8lJNiKcGlyzcYOP2lZ6lQs2wf+ZH]) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 118P3E-0005Oi-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:14:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 4265 invoked by uid 5000); 25 Jul 1999 14:11:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:11:33 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: User Group list formatting Message-ID: <19990725151133.A4224@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've noticed that the User Group list on the support page of our Web site now lists the locations of user groups in a blue font. This is a bad idea because: - Blue text is usually associated with hyperlinks. Users might be confused. - We're displaying the meaning of the page using colour only. This violates even the most lax of accessibility guidelines. Therefore, I propose that we use a
    to list User Groups, with a
    for the geographical location (replacing the ) and
    for the rest of the text. If anyone can think of a good reason why we shouldn't go ahead with this, please let me know. If I receive no objections, I'll commit this change in the next week or so. Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 7:46: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472AD15172; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 07:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from foxfair@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA23988; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 07:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 07:45:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907251445.HAA23988@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sada@FreeBSD.ORG, foxfair@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12794: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: foxfair State-Changed-When: Sun Jul 25 07:40:29 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Change state because it should be a misfiled PR: Check the ERRATA info http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.2R/errata.html here. If no objection and we all agree with it, I'll close it at next Sunday(local time: GMT+8, 1st Aug.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 8: 5:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B75151A5; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA24839; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:05:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907251505.IAA24839@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12804: [Patch] Spacing error in www/en/news/newsflash.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] Spacing error in www/en/news/newsflash.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: tom State-Changed-When: Sun Jul 25 08:04:26 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed in revision 1.131, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 8:47:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rr.iij4u.or.jp (h096.p060.iij4u.or.jp [210.130.60.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CE4E15187 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sada@rr.iij4u.or.jp) Received: (qmail 3094 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jul 1999 00:46:40 +0900 Date: 26 Jul 1999 00:46:40 +0900 Message-ID: <19990725154640.3093.sada@rr.iij4u.or.jp> To: foxfair@FreeBSD.org Cc: sada@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12794: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:45:12 JST". <199907251445.HAA23988@freefall.freebsd.org> From: sada@rr.IIJ4U.OR.JP (SADA Kenji) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.21] 1997-12/23(Tue) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Change state because it should be a misfiled PR: Check the ERRATA info >> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.2R/errata.html here. If no objection >> and we all agree with it, I'll close it at next Sunday(local time: GMT+8, >> 1st Aug.) Please check the ERRATA info carefully. Nothing about compat22 is reported on it. Also, please refine my FAQ entry > anyone I'm sorry I could write poor English. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 9:20:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8C515175; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA71842; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:20:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907251620.JAA71842@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sada@FreeBSD.ORG, sada@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12794: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. State-Changed-From-To: feedback->analyzed State-Changed-By: sada State-Changed-When: Sun Jul 25 09:18:17 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Still waiting for comments. No comments for few days, I'll commit this by myself. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 11: 2: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6465514F86; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA19921; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:02:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:02:36 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: sandbox?? Message-ID: <19990726040233.E7349@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi clever people Nobody seems to be confident about the answer to my post to -questions. Below is the only public answer. It is typical of many private answers I received from otherwise knowledgeable people willing to make a partial educated guess but not willing to expose their ignorance publicly. They're all keen to know whatever I can find out :-) On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 07:58:01AM -0400, T. William Wells wrote: > In article <19990719212431.D300@welearn.com.au>, > Sue Blake wrote: > : Could someone tell me what is a sandbox, what does it do, how does it > : work, how do I use it, or where is it documented? > : named(8) and security(8) seem to assume one already knows. > > It's a generic term. It refers to a restricted environment in > which something is to be done. Exactly how a sandbox is > implemented depends on the specific application. As you see it is far from the complete 4-5 part answer I need. The problem that I see is that our named.conf refers to this sandbox thing, implies that it is actually the default method for BIND in FreeBSD (I don't think it is though), and directs the user to man pages which don't provide the necessary info to be able to confidently (un)implement it. If nobody understands how this sandbox thing works, we should change the named.conf that we supply. If somebody does, then they or someone who they teach (me if really necessary) needs to document it so that anyone seriously interested can figure it out on thier own (or at least accept the defaults with confidence), and then change at least the named.conf to point to that info. It sounds like a good idea, worth giving people the resources to use it. (Email cc would be appreciated) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 11:23:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E1B14EAB; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:23:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id DAA01438; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:22:58 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <379B55C3.433B71B0@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:21:55 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sandbox?? References: <19990726040233.E7349@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > > Nobody seems to be confident about the answer to my post to -questions. > Below is the only public answer. It is typical of many private answers > I received from otherwise knowledgeable people willing to make a > partial educated guess but not willing to expose their ignorance > publicly. They're all keen to know whatever I can find out :-) :-) > On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 07:58:01AM -0400, T. William Wells wrote: > > In article <19990719212431.D300@welearn.com.au>, > > Sue Blake wrote: > > : Could someone tell me what is a sandbox, what does it do, how does it > > : work, how do I use it, or where is it documented? > > : named(8) and security(8) seem to assume one already knows. > > > > It's a generic term. It refers to a restricted environment in > > which something is to be done. Exactly how a sandbox is > > implemented depends on the specific application. Without having read the references in the files you mentioned, here is my own take on sandbox. In some firewall books I have read, sandbox is used to refer to a machine connected to the net in a "protected" way. Basically, all packets to and from that machine go through a firewall. The machine, though inside the firewall, is isolated from the rest of the internal network. The sandbox can then be used to provide services in a more or less secure way. It cannot threat the internal network, because it can reach it even if breached, and it is not as exposed as it would be outside the firewall. If *think* this definition was given in the book by the TIS people, but, alas, I haven't read about firewalls in two years, and my firewall books are 12 thousand km away. And notice, too, that I'm *not* refering to the hacker's trap, whose name I can't recall right now. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Is it true that you're a millionaire's son who never worked a day in your life?" "Yeah, I guess so." "Lemme tell you, son, you ain't missed a thing." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 11:37: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEE714BF2; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA41121; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:36:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199907251836.LAA41121@apollo.backplane.com> To: Sue Blake Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sandbox?? References: <19990726040233.E7349@welearn.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A sandbox is a security term. It can mean two things: * A process which is placed inside a set of virtual walls that are designed to prevent someone who breaks into the process from being able to break into the wider system. The process is said to be able to "play" inside the walls. That is, nothing the process does in regards to executing code is supposed to be able to breech the walls so you do not have to do a detailed audit of its code to be able to say certain things about its security. The walls might be a userid, for example. This is the definition used in the security and named man pages. Take the 'ntalk' service, for example (see /etc/inetd.conf). This service used to run as userid root. Now it runs as userid tty. The tty user is a sandbox desiegned to make it more difficult for someone who has successfully hacked into the system via ntalk from being able to hack beyond that user id. * A process which is placed inside a simulation of the machine. This is more hard-core. Basically it means that someone who is able to break into the process may believe that he can break into the wider machine but is, in fact, only breaking into a simulation of that machine and not modifying any real data. The most common way to accomplish this is to build a simulated environment in a subdirectory and then run the processes in that directory chroot'd (i.e. "/" for that process is this directory, not the real "/" of the system). Another common use is to mount an underlying filesystem read-only and then create a filesystem layer on top of it that gives a process a seemingly writeable view into that filesystem. The process may believe it is able to write to those files, but only the process sees the effects -- other processes in the system do not, necessarily. An attempt is made to make this sort of sandbox so transparent that the user (or hacker) does not realize that he is sitting in it. UNIX implements two core sanboxes. One is at the process level, and one is at the userid level. Every UNIX process is completely firewalled off from every other UNIX process. One process can modify the address space of another. This is unlike Windows where a process can easily overwrite the address space of any other, leading to a crash. A UNIX process is owned by a patricular userid. If the userid is not the root user, it serves to firewall the process off from processes owned by other users. The userid is also used to firewall off on-disk data. -Matt Matthew Dillon :Hi clever people : :Nobody seems to be confident about the answer to my post to -questions. :Below is the only public answer. It is typical of many private answers :I received from otherwise knowledgeable people willing to make a :partial educated guess but not willing to expose their ignorance :publicly. They're all keen to know whatever I can find out :-) : :On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 07:58:01AM -0400, T. William Wells wrote: :> In article <19990719212431.D300@welearn.com.au>, :> Sue Blake wrote: :> : Could someone tell me what is a sandbox, what does it do, how does it :> : work, how do I use it, or where is it documented? :> : named(8) and security(8) seem to assume one already knows. :> :> It's a generic term. It refers to a restricted environment in :> which something is to be done. Exactly how a sandbox is :> implemented depends on the specific application. : :As you see it is far from the complete 4-5 part answer I need. The :problem that I see is that our named.conf refers to this sandbox thing, :implies that it is actually the default method for BIND in FreeBSD (I :don't think it is though), and directs the user to man pages which :don't provide the necessary info to be able to confidently :(un)implement it. : :If nobody understands how this sandbox thing works, we should change :the named.conf that we supply. If somebody does, then they or someone :who they teach (me if really necessary) needs to document it so that :anyone seriously interested can figure it out on thier own (or at least :accept the defaults with confidence), and then change at least the :named.conf to point to that info. It sounds like a good idea, worth :giving people the resources to use it. : :(Email cc would be appreciated) : :-- : :Regards, : -*Sue*- : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 11:39:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4129414BF2; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA63806; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:35:34 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199907251835.UAA63806@gratis.grondar.za> To: Sue Blake Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sandbox?? Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:35:20 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > > Nobody seems to be confident about the answer to my post to -questions. > Below is the only public answer. It is typical of many private answers > I received from otherwise knowledgeable people willing to make a > partial educated guess but not willing to expose their ignorance > publicly. They're all keen to know whatever I can find out :-) The usual use of the term "sandbox" means "restricted environment". A chroot(3) can be used to build this, and jail(3) is a stronger version, although this is not a usual use for the term. The term is popular in Java where it it implies that the (possibly hostile) applet _cannot_ do anything dangerous, because the environment it runs in has no API that allows this (like the applet cannot open arb files). The term "sandbox" in inetd.conf refers to a "su - ; chroot ; " environment (I think) so that cannot do any damage even if compromised. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 11:48:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1BC15214; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA41278; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:46:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199907251846.LAA41278@apollo.backplane.com> To: Mark Murray Cc: Sue Blake , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sandbox?? References: <199907251835.UAA63806@gratis.grondar.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Speaking of jail() ... it might be a good idea to change the int32 being passed for the IP address to something a little more portable or it will not be useable when IPV6 goes in. Perhaps a pointer and a length instead of an int32, or even pass a structural pointer and a length (which can remain backwards compatible by checking the passed length). -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 12:28: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0C6151F7 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 12:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.3]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5005; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:25:28 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15454; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:23:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:23:49 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: some more questions wrt freebsd docbook Message-ID: <19990725212349.E14954@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Nik, in handbook.sgml you use: %man; what exactly does this allow us to do? pull in manpages? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Cum angelis et pueris, fideles inveniamur. Quis est iste Rex gloriae...? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 13: 0:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15FE15249 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.3]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA4EB; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:00:00 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15659; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:48:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:48:27 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Foxlink Admin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification Message-ID: <19990725214827.G14954@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <003001bed537$a105c4e0$87577ccf@isp1.foxlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i In-Reply-To: <003001bed537$a105c4e0$87577ccf@isp1.foxlink.net>; from Foxlink Admin on Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 02:17:31PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Foxlink Admin (admin@foxlink.net) [990723 20:08]: > Are you guys by any chance going to create a FreeBSD certification program? > If yes, by when will it be available? If not, don't you think it is a good > idea > to start one? Please see archives of this month and previous of -chat and -advocacy. This topic has been discussed before and you might prefer to read up... HTH, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Cum angelis et pueris, fideles inveniamur. Quis est iste Rex gloriae...? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 14:40:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3CB1523C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA85602; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from shattered.disturbed.net (shattered.disturbed.net [205.236.147.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0184D1523C for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:35:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veers@disturbed.net) Received: from localhost (user: 'veers', uid#1000) by disturbed.net id ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:34:36 -0400 Message-Id: <19990725213442Z61470-3498+80@disturbed.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:34:36 -0400 From: veers@disturbed.net Reply-To: veers@disturbed.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12810: sendfile(2) manual page error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12810 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sendfile(2) manual page has erronous history information >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jul 25 14:40:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alex Perel >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none >Environment: FreeBSD mirage.disturbed.net 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #2: Sun Jul 25 16:56:17 EDT 1999 root@mirage.disturbed.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MIRAGE i386 >Description: sendfile(2) claims that the system call first appeared in FreeBSD 3.0.1, when in fact it was present in FreeBSD 3.0. >How-To-Repeat: man 2 sendfile >Fix: --- lib/libc/sys/sendfile.2.orig Sun Jul 25 17:10:45 1999 +++ lib/libc/sys/sendfile.2 Sun Jul 25 17:23:24 1999 @@ -144,8 +144,9 @@ .Xr send 2 , .Xr writev 2 .Sh HISTORY -.Fn sendfile -first appeared in FreeBSD 3.0.1. +The +.Fn sendfile +system call first appeared in FreeBSD 3.0. This manual page first appeared in FreeBSD 3.1. .Sh AUTHORS .Fn sendfile and this manual page were written by David Greenman . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 16:21:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E8114D12; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:21:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@shell6.ba.best.com) Received: (from jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id QAA17211; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990725161839.A16546@best.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:18:39 -0700 From: "Jan B. Koum " To: Matthew Dillon , Sue Blake Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sandbox?? Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Dillon , Sue Blake , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990726040233.E7349@welearn.com.au> <199907251836.LAA41121@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199907251836.LAA41121@apollo.backplane.com>; from Matthew Dillon on Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 11:36:49AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 11:36:49AM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > A sandbox is a security term. It can mean two things: > [...] > > UNIX implements two core sanboxes. One is at the process level, and one > is at the userid level. > > Every UNIX process is completely firewalled off from every other UNIX > process. One process can modify the address space of another. This is ^^^^ Can not. Silly typo ;) BTW, I have running bind running chroot()'ed in /var/named (where OpenBSD puts it). Can we now also put /var/named and all subdirs needed into FreeBSD? We can also add '-t /var/named' flag into commented out rc.conf startup for bind. I could supply more info to someone who can commit this into the tree... % tail /var/named/var/log/named-noise.log 25-Jul-1999 04:11:16.730 security: info: chrooted to /var/named 25-Jul-1999 04:11:16.871 security: info: group = bind 25-Jul-1999 04:11:16.872 security: info: user = bind % ps ax | grep named 113 ?? Is 0:00.02 /var/named/named -u bind -g bind -t /var/named -- Yan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 16:21:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-193-112-19.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.112.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACE515266; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:21:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@snafu.adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24805; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:20:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Sue Blake Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sandbox?? In-Reply-To: <19990726040233.E7349@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Sue Blake wrote: > If nobody understands how this sandbox thing works, we should change > the named.conf that we supply. If somebody does, then they or someone Understanding a sandbox only requires the ability to read on the part of the user (something anyone in charge of named administration has hopefully learned, else they don't need to be administrating anything). As for the current named.conf format... I agree that it should be changed. Rc.conf currently references the fact that 'it may be possible to run named in a sandbox'. Named.conf says 'FreeBSD runs bind in a sandbox'. Saying FreeBSD does something one place while saying it may be possible to do it in another is... silly. The actual use is up to the administrator, so it seems logical to have named.conf examples for sandbox and non-sandbox configs. Mike Hoskins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 17:19:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from drago.cert.org.tw (drago.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903B514CBA; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw) Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by drago.cert.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA06793; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:19:06 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:17:11 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: sada@FreeBSD.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12794: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. Message-Id: <379BA907190.9458FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun Jul 25 23:46:40 1999, you wrote: >Please check the ERRATA info carefully. >Nothing about compat22 is reported on it. Actually I think this information can be found in 3.1-R && 3.2-R's ERRTA. Your PR just implied "Some 3.x users could have trouble of missing ld.so" but it is not true. The truth is 3.1-R lacked with (aout) ld.so , you need to install compat22 distribution; and 3.2-R missed its installation directory from /usr/lib/compat(right place) to /usr/lib/compat/aout(wrong place). Those file in /usr/lib/compat now should be ELF format. I don't think it is necessary to include these information to FAQ. You can check it out from the errata file of every release version. And I encourage people to do so. Ref: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/fooR/errata.html Oh yeah, the "foo" word here is 3.[1-2], as your wish. >Also, please refine my FAQ entry > anyone >I'm sorry I could write poor English. Cheers, -Foxfair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 19: 6:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56961525A; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:06:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA14187; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:36:39 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA57791; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:36:34 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:36:34 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Tom Hukins Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: User Group list formatting Message-ID: <19990726113634.P51019@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990725151133.A4224@eborcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990725151133.A4224@eborcom.com>; from Tom Hukins on Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 03:11:33PM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 25 July 1999 at 15:11:33 +0100, Tom Hukins wrote: > I've noticed that the User Group list on the support page of our Web > site now lists the > locations of user groups in a blue font. > > This is a bad idea because: > - Blue text is usually associated with hyperlinks. Users might be > confused. > - We're displaying the meaning of the page using colour only. This > violates even the most lax of accessibility guidelines. > > Therefore, I propose that we use a
    to list User Groups, with a >
    for the geographical location (replacing the COLOR="blue">) and
    for the rest of the text. > > If anyone can think of a good reason why we shouldn't go ahead with > this, please let me know. If I receive no objections, I'll commit > this change in the next week or so. Hmm. Checking the logs, it appears that I committed this blunder, but on looking at it, I can't imagine why. Yes, it's a good idea to change it. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 25 21:59:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF14415291; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA42863; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:59:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:59:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199907260459.VAA42863@apollo.backplane.com> To: Mike Hoskins Cc: Sue Blake , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sandbox?? References: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :Understanding a sandbox only requires the ability to read on the part of :the user (something anyone in charge of named administration has hopefully :learned, else they don't need to be administrating anything). : :As for the current named.conf format... I agree that it should be :changed. Rc.conf currently references the fact that 'it may be possible :to run named in a sandbox'. Named.conf says 'FreeBSD runs bind in a :sandbox'. Saying FreeBSD does something one place while saying it may be :possible to do it in another is... silly. : :The actual use is up to the administrator, so it seems logical to have :named.conf examples for sandbox and non-sandbox configs. : :Mike Hoskins : The sandbox code for bind is not a novice exercise, which is why it is commented out by default. This is mainly because bind insists on doing things which make sandboxing difficult - you can't HUP it, for example, or bring interfaces down and up. The comment in the sample named.conf is wrong, it isn't on by default. Bind has a number of design faults that make it difficult to run outside of root. It would probably work in a jail(), though, if someone wants to work on that. The sandbox for the comsat and ntalk daemons does work and is on by default. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 2:26:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC29214BD8; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA33898; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:25:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907260925.CAA33898@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12810: sendfile(2) manual page has erronous history information Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: sendfile(2) manual page has erronous history information Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jul 26 02:24:47 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 2:33:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccug.wlv.ac.uk (ccug.wlv.ac.uk [134.220.1.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE5B152F6 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:33:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from g9700666@wlv.ac.uk) Received: from [134.220.205.193] (helo=wlv.ac.uk) by ccug.wlv.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #2) id 118h7x-0006MX-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:32:57 +0100 Message-ID: <379C2A38.576D9754@wlv.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:28:24 +0000 From: lisa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Handbook for Free BSD. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir/Madam, My name is Lisa Jones and I am currently studying at the University of Wolverhampton.I am writing concerning the handbook you have available for FreeBSD which can be obtained in English, Japanese and Spanish. My query is do you have the handbook available in French ? Thankyou for your time, Kind regards, Lisa Jones. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 4:37: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00319152FF; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA45274; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:36:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907261136.EAA45274@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12783: [PATCH] missing return value for msgsnd(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] missing return value for msgsnd(3) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jul 26 04:35:44 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 5:41:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45301532F for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:41:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA51059; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B16A1532A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip47.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.47]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A18E370B4 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA81916; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:32:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199907261232.HAA81916@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:32:32 -0500 (CDT) From: chris@calldei.com Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12818: [Patch] doc/FAQ/admin.sgml refers to old sd device Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12818 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] doc/FAQ/admin.sgml refers to old sd device >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jul 26 05:40:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none >Environment: admin.sgml: $Id: admin.sgml,v 1.25 1999/07/11 18:03:59 roberto Exp $ >Description: admin.sgml refers to the old sd(4) device. Part of my patch affects a section that refers to the boot prompt. Is the current documentation sufficient, or should further instruction as to how to get to the boot prompt be provided? >How-To-Repeat: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ120.html#120 >Fix: Index: admin.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/FAQ/admin.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 admin.sgml --- admin.sgml 1999/07/11 18:03:59 1.25 +++ admin.sgml 1999/07/26 12:28:15 @@ -103,7 +103,7 @@

    if it's a floppy, or this: - mount -t msdos /dev/sd2s4 /zip + mount -t msdos /dev/da2s4 /zip

    for a ZIP disk with the factory configuration. @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@

    For other disks, see how they're laid out using /stand/sysinstall. -

    The rest of the examples will be for a ZIP drive on sd2, the third +

    The rest of the examples will be for a ZIP drive on da2, the third SCSI disk.

    Unless it's a floppy, or a removable you plan on sharing with @@ -126,8 +126,8 @@ and just use the BSD partitioning: - dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd2 count=2 - disklabel -Brw sd2 auto + dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda2 count=2 + disklabel -Brw da2 auto

    You can use disklabel or /stand/sysinstall to create multiple @@ -139,13 +139,13 @@ using the whole disk: - newfs /dev/rsd2c + newfs /dev/rda2c

    and mount it: - mount /dev/sd2c /zip + mount /dev/da2c /zip

    and it's probably a good idea to add a line like this to @@ -154,7 +154,7 @@ future: - /dev/sd2c /zip ffs rw,noauto 0 0 + /dev/da2c /zip ffs rw,noauto 0 0 @@ -163,12 +163,12 @@

    The secondary DOS partitions are found after ALL the primary partitions. For example, if you have an "E" partition as the second DOS partition on the second SCSI drive, you need to create - the special files for "slice 5" in /dev, then mount /dev/sd1s5: + the special files for "slice 5" in /dev, then mount /dev/da1s5: # cd /dev - # ./MAKEDEV sd1s5 - # mount -t msdos /dev/sd1s5 /dos/e + # ./MAKEDEV da1s5 + # mount -t msdos /dev/da1s5 /dos/e @@ -220,7 +220,7 @@ FAT partition, under, say, /mnt. - dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=/mnt/bootsect.bsd bs=512 count=1 + dd if=/dev/rda0a of=/mnt/bootsect.bsd bs=512 count=1

    Reboot into DOS or NT. NTFS users copy the - Boot: 1:sd(0,a)/kernel + Boot: 1:da(0,a)/kernel

    On FreeBSD 2.2.5 and later, you can configure - dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd0 count=15 + dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda0 count=15

    Alternatively, the undocumented DOS ``feature'' >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 9: 1:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rr.iij4u.or.jp (h225.p060.iij4u.or.jp [210.130.60.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFA35153AA for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sada@rr.iij4u.or.jp) Received: (qmail 13376 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Jul 1999 01:00:08 +0900 Date: 27 Jul 1999 01:00:08 +0900 Message-ID: <19990726160008.13375.sada@rr.iij4u.or.jp> To: foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw Cc: sada@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12794: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:17:11 JST". <379BA907190.9458FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> From: sada@rr.IIJ4U.OR.JP (SADA Kenji) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.21] 1997-12/23(Tue) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Actually I think this information can be found in 3.1-R && 3.2-R's ERRTA. >> Your PR just implied "Some 3.x users could have trouble of missing >> ld.so" but it is not true. The truth is 3.1-R lacked with (aout) ld.so , >> you need to install compat22 distribution; and 3.2-R missed its >> installation directory from /usr/lib/compat(right place) to >> /usr/lib/compat/aout(wrong place). Those file in /usr/lib/compat now >> should be ELF format. >> >> I don't think it is necessary to include these information to FAQ. You >> can check it out from the errata file of every release version. And I >> encourage people to do so. Actually 3.2-R still needs compat22 for Netscape, so many users send question about it to ML and me. Now I recommend adding the note to ERRATA-3.2, not FAQ. Probably 3.2 users wouldn't see ERRATA-3.1 . Current Netscape ports would warn about need of compat22 to users and the notation wouldn't be necessary for ERRATA-3.3 or later. -- SADA Kenji "There's a rainbow in my soul" Gene Chandler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 10: 7:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub4.isdnet.net (mailhub4.isdnet.net [195.154.209.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323B214FE8 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephane@libertysurf.fr) Received: from sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo ([195.154.24.74]) by mailhub4.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA99009; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:07:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA12898; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:52:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:52:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907261452.QAA12898@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> From: Stephane Legrand MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: lisa Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook for Free BSD. In-Reply-To: <379C2A38.576D9754@wlv.ac.uk> References: <379C2A38.576D9754@wlv.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org lisa writes: > Dear Sir/Madam, > My name is Lisa Jones and I am currently studying at the University = of > Wolverhampton.I am writing concerning the handbook you have availabl= e > for FreeBSD which can be obtained in English, Japanese and Spanish. > My query is do you have the handbook available in French ? Go to http://www.freebsd-fr.org/ and follow the link "Manuel de r=E9f=E9rence". The translation is almost complete. Stephane Legrand. --=20 Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com FreeBSD Francophone : http://www.freebsd-fr.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 11: 0:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCED14F5C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA16697 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907261800.LAA16697@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/06/12] docs/12181 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chap o [1999/06/23] docs/12372 doc man page HISTORY for strdup is wrong o [1999/07/15] docs/12652 doc [Patch] scsi.4 refers to old kernel confi o [1999/07/23] docs/12773 doc ftp.mirros was not updated for while a [1999/07/24] docs/12794 doc FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld. o [1999/07/26] docs/12818 doc [Patch] doc/FAQ/admin.sgml refers to old 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/05/11] docs/11643 doc handbook should state alternatives o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi o [1999/06/07] docs/12075 doc [PATCH] Ports Changes Page Does not List o [1999/06/10] docs/12128 doc Cosmetics changes in eresoureses.sgml o [1999/06/11] docs/12132 doc Invalid URL at http://www.freebsd.org/int o [1999/06/15] docs/12220 doc No manual page on system command "getkern o [1999/06/22] docs/12343 doc make.conf error in documentation (COM2) o [1999/06/28] docs/12435 doc allied telesys is now allied telesyn o [1999/07/12] docs/12619 doc dhclient-lease(8) does not exist; dhclien o [1999/07/13] docs/12625 doc Update links for French o [1999/07/13] docs/12627 doc update the French FreeBSD Documentation P o [1999/07/15] docs/12657 doc Handbook on ftp mirrors is old... o [1999/07/16] docs/12659 doc adduser man page references non existant o [1999/07/16] docs/12679 doc splash(4) contains incorrect references o [1999/07/17] docs/12684 doc Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. o [1999/07/21] docs/12734 doc [patches] bring makewhatis.local* stuff t o [1999/07/23] docs/12775 doc Update Russian Documentation Project mail 40 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 14:57:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3D614BCF; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA16549; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:34:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:34:43 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Tom Hukins Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User Group list formatting Message-ID: <19990726213443.A16313@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990725151133.A4224@eborcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990725151133.A4224@eborcom.com>; from Tom Hukins on Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 03:11:33PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 03:11:33PM +0100, Tom Hukins wrote: > Therefore, I propose that we use a

    to list User Groups, with a >
    for the geographical location (replacing the COLOR="blue">) and
    for the rest of the text. > > If anyone can think of a good reason why we shouldn't go ahead with > this, please let me know. If I receive no objections, I'll commit > this change in the next week or so. Go ahead. This has been at the bottom of my ToDo list for a while. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 14:58:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7051501C for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA16993; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:38:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:38:17 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some more questions wrt freebsd docbook Message-ID: <19990726213817.B16313@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990725212349.E14954@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990725212349.E14954@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 09:23:49PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 09:23:49PM +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > in handbook.sgml you use: > > > %man; > > what exactly does this allow us to do? > > pull in manpages? Not quite. The definition of the man.foo.n entities (such as &man.csh.1;) are stored in a file. That file is referenced by the name -//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN the catalog file ("catalog") maps that name to a specific file in the file system. The " To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 15: 6:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.connectnet.com (smtp.connectnet.com [207.110.0.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00E0A14BCF for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from higley@opensystem.com) Received: (qmail 14580 invoked from network); 26 Jul 1999 22:06:01 -0000 Received: from dyn2-178.sandiego.connectnet.com (HELO elwood.WinNATDomain) (206.251.152.178) by smtp.connectnet.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 1999 22:06:01 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990726150519.00957400@mail.recruiters.net> X-Sender: higley@mail.recruiters.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:06:57 -0700 To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Elwood Higley Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe FreeBSD-doc _______________________________________________________________________ Elwood Higley Telephone: 760-729-2224 Open Systems Consultants FAX: 760-729-2225 2850 Pio Pico Dr. Suite K higley@opensystem.com Carlsbad, CA 92008 CA45 http://www.opensystem.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 15:52:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4BD14C40 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:52:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA38628; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 6B0E2150B9; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990726224129.6B0E2150B9@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:41:29 -0700 (PDT) From: jobaldwi@vt.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/12823: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12823 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jul 26 15:50:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Baldwin >Release: 3.2-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: n/a >Description: This patch adds a new question to the sys admin portion of the FAQ. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: patch: Index: admin.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/FAQ/admin.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 admin.sgml --- admin.sgml 1999/07/11 18:03:59 1.25 +++ admin.sgml 1999/07/26 22:38:46 @@ -969,6 +969,74 @@ # return # exit - + + + What is a sandbox? + +

    "Sandbox" is a security term. It can mean two things: + + + +

    A process which is placed inside a set of virtual walls + that are designed to prevent someone who breaks into the + process from being able to break into the wider system. + +

    The process is said to be able to "play" inside the + walls. That is, nothing the process does in regards to + executing code is supposed to be able to breech the walls + so you do not have to do a detailed audit of its code to + be able to say certain things about its security. + +

    The walls might be a userid, for example. This is the + definition used in the security and named man pages. + +

    Take the 'ntalk' service, for example (see + /etc/inetd.conf). This service used to run as userid + root. Now it runs as userid tty. The tty user is a + sandbox desiegned to make it more difficult for someone + who has successfully hacked into the system via ntalk from + being able to hack beyond that user id. + + + +

    A process which is placed inside a simulation of the + machine. This is more hard-core. Basically it means that + someone who is able to break into the process may believe + that he can break into the wider machine but is, in fact, + only breaking into a simulation of that machine and not + modifying any real data. + +

    The most common way to accomplish this is to build a + simulated environment in a subdirectory and then run the + processes in that directory chroot'd (i.e. "/" for that + process is this directory, not the real "/" of the + system). + +

    Another common use is to mount an underlying filesystem + read-only and then create a filesystem layer on top of it + that gives a process a seemingly writeable view into that + filesystem. The process may believe it is able to write + to those files, but only the process sees the effects + ‐ other processes in the system do not, necessarily. + +

    An attempt is made to make this sort of sandbox so + transparent that the user (or hacker) does not realize + that he is sitting in it. + + + +

    UNIX implements two core sanboxes. One is at the process + level, and one is at the userid level. + +

    Every UNIX process is completely firewalled off from every + other UNIX process. One process can modify the address space + of another. This is unlike Windows where a process can easily + overwrite the address space of any other, leading to a crash. + +

    A UNIX process is owned by a patricular userid. If the + userid is not the root user, it serves to firewall the process + off from processes owned by other users. The userid is also + used to firewall off on-disk data. + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 16:12: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D7415164; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA40778; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:11:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907262311.QAA40778@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jesusr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12823: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jesusr Responsible-Changed-By: jesusr Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jul 26 16:10:53 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Working it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 17: 5:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF96315177; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (Hamilton-ppp44898.sympatico.ca [206.172.76.91]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16014; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA45255; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:59:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:59:52 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: jesusr@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12823: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" Message-ID: <19990726195952.A45195@mad> References: <199907262311.QAA40778@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199907262311.QAA40778@freefall.freebsd.org>; from jesusr@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 04:11:26PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 04:11:26PM -0700, jesusr@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" I wonder if this matches the "F" part of FAQ. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 18:21:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32E715022; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (207-172-143-180.s53.as2.hgt.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.143.180]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21577; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907270118.VAA21577@smtp3.erols.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990726195952.A45195@mad> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:18:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Tim Vanderhoek Subject: Re: docs/12823: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jesusr@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Jul-99 Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 04:11:26PM -0700, jesusr@FreeBSD.org wrote: >> Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" > > I wonder if this matches the "F" part of FAQ. I think it is an oft-wondered question that is not always posed by newbies. IOW, they ask themselves the question but don't think it is very important and thus don't bother asking out loud. They then do not ask the question and do not learn the meaning, to their loss. (Not all FreeBSD newbies are ex-Unix hackers ya know). If it is in the FAQ, then they will read that because they don't have to "bother" anyone to ask it. At least, that was how I was about this and similar questions when I was a newbie. If that philosophy does not fit with the FAQ, then that is ok. However, I do have one question for you: is there such a thing as too much documentation? Even if there is, I don't think FreeBSD is very close to that point. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 26 18:38:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE2214DB4; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:38:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp6493.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.208.85]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19496; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA46001; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:38:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:38:16 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jesusr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12823: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "What is a sandbox?" Message-ID: <19990726213816.A45954@mad> References: <19990726195952.A45195@mad> <199907270118.VAA21577@smtp3.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199907270118.VAA21577@smtp3.erols.com>; from John Baldwin on Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 09:18:45PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 09:18:45PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > However, I do have one question > for you: is there such a thing as too much documentation? Yes, there is such a thing as too much documentation (see the BUGS section of ports(7) :), but in this specific case I only wanted to see that some people actually think it's a worthwhile entry. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 27 4:58:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9507B153B8 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:57:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA26924 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:58:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id OAA01016 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:51:23 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199907271051.OAA01016@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: src/share/doc ... To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:51:23 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello folks, just interesting about stuff stored under /usr/share/doc/ tree -- someone maintaining that ? Or it should be left in imported state -- 4.4BSD Light documents. Fast look shown me that these files were not updated for long time and out-of-date somewhere. -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 27 6:20:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2ACB15406 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA97472; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from od3.sharp.co.jp (od3.sharp.co.jp [202.32.86.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6939D1540B for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuma@slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp) Received: by od3.sharp.co.jp; id WAA21750; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:13:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.159.14.115) by od3.sharp.co.jp via smap (4.1) id xma021714; Tue, 27 Jul 99 22:12:45 +0900 Received: from td1.tnr.sharp.co.jp (root@td1.tnr.sharp.co.jp [133.159.52.20]) by od.sharp.co.jp (8.8.5/3.5W-98081113) with ESMTP id WAA23071 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:12:44 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailfwd.slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp ([10.32.30.11]) by td1.tnr.sharp.co.jp (8.8.5/3.5W-97080613) with ESMTP id WAA08894 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:12:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from server01.slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp ([10.32.50.4]) by mailfwd.slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp (8.8.4+2.7Wbeta4/3.6Wbeta7) with ESMTP id WAA29389 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:12:44 +0900 (JST) Received: from gaye.slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp (gaye.slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp [10.32.49.117]) by server01.slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp (8.8.5/3.6Wbeta7 98051815) with ESMTP id WAA01656 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:12:40 +0900 (JST) Received: (from kuma@localhost) by gaye.slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl5) id WAA22785; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:12:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199907271312.WAA22785@gaye.slab.tnr.sharp.co.jp> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:12:40 +0900 (JST) From: kuma@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: kuma@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12837: a typo in wicontrol. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12837 >Category: docs >Synopsis: a typo in wicontrol.8 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jul 27 06:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Norihiro Kumagai >Release: 3.2-19990603-STABLE >Organization: FreeBSD Japanese Manual Translation Project >Environment: manpages.?? in 3.2-19990603-STABLE >Description: 'sofware' should be 'software', I believe. >How-To-Repeat: install, type 'man wicontrol', and see. >Fix: --- wicontrol.8-en-org Tue Jul 27 21:24:11 1999 +++ wicontrol.8-en Tue Jul 27 21:34:12 1999 @@ -139,7 +139,7 @@ .Ar station name for the specified interface. The .Ar station name -is used for diagnostic purposes. The Lucent WaveMANAGER sofware can +is used for diagnostic purposes. The Lucent WaveMANAGER software can poll the names of remote hosts. .It Fl i Ar iface Fl c Ar 0|1 Allow the station to create a service set (IBSS). Permitted values >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 27 10:37:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from oak.micromedia.on.ca (mailsrv.mmltd.com [204.187.104.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A44152EB for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdao@micromedia.on.ca) Received: from micromedia.on.ca ([10.0.0.124]) by oak.micromedia.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07683 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <379DED7E.157D36B1@micromedia.on.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:33:51 -0400 From: huong dao X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: freeBSD and SCSI Future domain 18xx controller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HI, IsFreeDSB support scsi future domain controller 18xx models? thanks Khai. kdao@micromedia.on.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 27 11:20:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AB614C89; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA64260; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:20:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907271820.LAA64260@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12181: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml needs updating. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml needs updating. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Jul 27 11:19:41 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 27 11:21:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE0F14C89; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA64515; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:21:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:21:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907271821.LAA64515@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12652: [Patch] scsi.4 refers to old kernel config syntax Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] scsi.4 refers to old kernel config syntax State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Jul 27 11:20:56 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 27 11:23:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C1E15423; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:23:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA64661; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:22:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907271822.LAA64661@freefall.freebsd.org> To: markd@Grizzly.COM, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12659: adduser man page references non existant commands Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: adduser man page references non existant commands State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Jul 27 11:21:47 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 27 11:25:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30D115360; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:25:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA64983; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:25:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907271825.LAA64983@freefall.freebsd.org> To: shade@dnai.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12435: allied telesys is now allied telesyn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: allied telesys is now allied telesyn State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Jul 27 11:23:02 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 27 12: 0: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8EC15382 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA67727; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4989014BFF for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip47.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.47]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A684E37013 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA91083; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:55:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199907271855.NAA91083@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:55:57 -0500 (CDT) From: chris@calldei.com Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12842: [Patch] Be-all, end-all to the inconsistant 'FreeBSD.org' capitalization problem Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12842 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] Be-all, end-all to the inconsistant 'FreeBSD.org' capitalization problem >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jul 27 12:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none >Environment: The latest doc tree as of Thursday 27 July, 1999, 1:30 PM, CST. >Description: The capitalization of 'FreeBSD.org' in the handbook is inconsistant. >How-To-Repeat: http://www.freebsd.org/ >Fix: This patch is huge. begin 664 fix-capitalization.patch.gz M'XL("*O_G3<"`V9I>"UC87!I=&%L:7IA=&EO;BYP871C:`#56WMOXT8._]O^ M%-,CZN_#PS'<31]KIESHEM+>[$TG0$7,QJ-9(3&8FG/EM/I M\/24C*VI0T;X.#T=CH^_./OI^OSZ5^).4A:2HVMX?)_=^5%"CFGH^L$)O'VZ MB2E=)=Z$Q3?'6O[VTF,S*"'_3/@)!? 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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:11:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA72907; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FDA14E2C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip47.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.47]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1818A3708E for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA91681; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:01:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199907272001.PAA91681@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:01:58 -0500 (CDT) From: chris@calldei.com Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12843: [Patch] Fix capitalization of 'FreeBSD.org' in FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12843 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] Fix capitalization of 'FreeBSD.org' in FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jul 27 13:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none >Environment: doc tree as of around 1:30 PM, 27 July, CST >Description: There are many, many occurances of older and inconsistant capitalizations of 'FreeBSD.org' in the FAQ. >How-To-Repeat: http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/ >Fix: This patch is even bigger. begin 664 faq-capitalization.patch.gz M'XL(`-0+GC<"`]5=6Y/CMK%^WOT5J'EPUD/#:#1:#2:/P0.?MZ@ M[V_^-DON?>_UN^'_O?[\_@[M70]OT/P0^G@>V(_)W`GM.2EEGI5T_?@ZQFGL MXD2_8^R]N_(M MUTO#S3[&>)=>Q\':?)"^J:JU'K=@P1:&M5570A/S+6BI"D8>M!"-0*.B8("M% M;\GC%53/#)&.B:PHBK'M6BE&I_`8LUINO1^T3?7]6>TYOAN\5)WE9=76E+8H M5Y6V$#G2&LH/K0-YK)JD,GU:$+U='4I>U[ M=^Y;P8Q\_W><=\(Y3NTY.=PB*W"R6FGJ8UU@@)M&U)JF27&;V6&P?[/X.@/G M9S+=VX=?/13EN"0LJ>G?S:(COTR5^<6^TP`%7DTC6%"7+KR[1S.VZP@6BQ_)=GZ=2$FKNZN9Q'9*IEW>-D MJLVTF3F_.@.R%C0(+%>0_7P33?0F;?1Z@-4Z.\:0ISZ%X='#8XGTC#>B5`62 MHPA6)$EENZ:R78\L6V-J'^,8!^E8PA4`1Y2N2',4\19HTK'9!/G2S[-\K93- M3WKX%7,QYNR*IC+RK23%,4K<%.<#=T,Y=0^5R^%<3L'B+I8#3[@F,X^U./-X M$\;]QRK!=L@8-.)TL$&XZ\D`WY/,S,C=V8F6C=/LH+<]68E!>:EDE(>/_KR" MH^>],7(;:^[@QSF-E78;;^*TYFZ)8YX1*,VQW#_[0>K5(3 M;KKR///K6ICXB*RP24UA%U=FL\C%DCXM_1*>MNW1J!KH]FSL4G!-_K`'?R2R M8HR.$3BI'2O%U]!;@_S)VQZ3%]SE.;L5S.V[`U%F.'XITTXLK=ZJ6UY8=[0GOH'ME MW>K]SW?H,XY"HC+#^'2UW72NX:YX="`G;`T9I^YC[J$CO[;(B=U'HM]!B;KW MQQCW]NZVXM&I/K,[M)+AT7$PM+SH8%4,B5UNH[W@"QD5;_YR^Z>;PL.UCXY9 MP9-^ED)5P50*"S)QAP^AC:7I]BLO_29;1*6WB@LC7]VGW[R=DZO>QGB/7(+HF1L5L!F);*! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 6:25:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE3515468 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp372.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.72]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id WAA14013; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:24:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.1) with ESMTP id WAA13924; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:24:26 +0900 (JST) To: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk Cc: doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: Resolution: FDP reorganisation In-Reply-To: <19990714222443.A65435@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990705234732.R71138@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <3788952C.8F8C593D@sky.rim.or.jp> <19990714222443.A65435@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94b42 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990728222425U.kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:24:25 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama X-Dispatcher: imput version 990623(IM117) Lines: 22 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry for my slow reaction... From: Nik Clayton > The original plan was repository copy. Then John said this was too much > work, so I said we'd repository copy the English docs, and re-import > everything else. Then you guys said "No, we need the histories", and I > wrote the script that does most of the repository copy work for us, so > now, yes, I think we're repository copying :-) I think it is good for us. Is there any things to consider about it? > Incidentally, and on a complete tangent -- I don't suppose any of the > Japanese team are planning on going to the FreeBSD Con this year are > they? It'd be great to put faces to names. I know some of Japanese people are planning to go there (including me). But I don't know anyone's fixed schedule (including me :-). Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 6:29:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491C114F88; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA48031; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:29:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907281329.GAA48031@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12837: a typo in wicontrol.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: a typo in wicontrol.8 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 06:23:14 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 7: 4:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2320814F25; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA92825; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:02:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907281402.HAA92825@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10180: Another mirror site not listed... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Another mirror site not listed... State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jesusr State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 07:00:24 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13: 5:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C47155EB for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA66641; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:56:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA35845; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:01:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:01:55 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src/share/doc ... Message-ID: <19990728150155.B18540@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199907271051.OAA01016@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907271051.OAA01016@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from Alexey M. Zelkin on Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 02:51:23PM +0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 02:51:23PM +0400, Alexey M. Zelkin wrote: > just interesting about stuff stored under /usr/share/doc/ tree -- someone > maintaining that ? Or it should be left in imported state -- 4.4BSD Light > documents. Fast look shown me that these files were not updated for long time > and out-of-date somewhere. They're historical documents that have always shipped with BSD systems. I don't have much of an opinion on them either way. It's nice to keep them from a historical perspective and they don't take up much space. However, if someone was to take them into the ports tree you wouldn't here any complaints from me. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13: 8:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDE315426; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA24059; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:08:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282008.NAA24059@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12842: [Patch] Be-all, end-all to the inconsistant 'FreeBSD.org' capitalization problem Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] Be-all, end-all to the inconsistant 'FreeBSD.org' capitalization problem State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:06:36 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:18:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67303154F8; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA25057; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:18:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282018.NAA25057@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12843: [Patch] Fix capitalization of 'FreeBSD.org' in FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] Fix capitalization of 'FreeBSD.org' in FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:10:10 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:22:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from penelope.skunk.org (penelope.skunk.org [208.133.204.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFED4153FA for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by penelope.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA66619 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:21:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben Rosengart To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: A doc on creating custom packages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1415763344-933193290=:63701" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1415763344-933193290=:63701 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I wrote this up for work, and someone suggested I submit it to the Project. 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Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:26:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip47.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.47]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964A9371B5; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11025; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:26:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:26:24 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Ben Rosengart Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A doc on creating custom packages Message-ID: <19990728152624.H93397@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Ben Rosengart on Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 04:21:30PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 28, 1999, Ben Rosengart wrote: > I wrote this up for work, and someone suggested I submit it to the > Project. Any interest? Perhaps you could look into submitting a section of http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/ports.html with more detailed information on how to create a package. In creating a port, as documented in the URL above, a package is created in order to test, among other things, dependancies. -- |Chris Costello |Foolproof operation: All parameters are hard coded. `--------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:29:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED1715558; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA26211; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:27:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282027.NAA26211@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12775: Update Russian Documentation Project maillist address Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update Russian Documentation Project maillist address State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:26:39 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:29:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from penelope.skunk.org (penelope.skunk.org [208.133.204.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA41715572 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:28:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by penelope.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA66673; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:28:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben Rosengart To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A doc on creating custom packages In-Reply-To: <19990728152624.H93397@holly.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > Perhaps you could look into submitting a section of > http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/ports.html with more detailed > information on how to create a package. In creating a port, > as documented in the URL above, a package is created in order to > test, among other things, dependancies. The emphasis in my doc is on creating custom packages for local use, not on rolling packages from scratch. So I don't know if ports.html is the right place for it. What do you think? -- Ben UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group StarMedia Network, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:29:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6C6155DD; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:29:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA26473; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:29:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282029.NAA26473@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wjgrun@dippy.cyberwar.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12343: make.conf error in documentation (COM2) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: make.conf error in documentation (COM2) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:29:13 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Error fixed, and clearer text substituted. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:30:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB601561A; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA26563; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282030.NAA26563@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12128: Cosmetics changes in eresoureses.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Cosmetics changes in eresoureses.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:29:42 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: It's been fixed as part of the commit for docs/12842. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:32:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C1B15519; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA26861; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282031.NAA26861@freefall.freebsd.org> To: n_hibma@freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11643: handbook should state alternatives Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: handbook should state alternatives State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:31:31 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: I've looked at the pages in question, and can't see where the problem is. The section that talks about getting CVSup says that CVSup can be downloaded from the main FTP site, or from the mirrors, and links to the Handbook section that talks about all the mirrors. So no problem, right? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:33: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E236154F9; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:33:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA26961; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282032.NAA26961@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11090: User's group in Melbourne Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: User's group in Melbourne Australia State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:31:58 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added in www/en/support.sgml:1.139, by jb. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:33: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236D014C56 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip47.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.47]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39222371B3; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11100; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:32:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:32:58 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Ben Rosengart Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A doc on creating custom packages Message-ID: <19990728153258.A11042@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <19990728152624.H93397@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Ben Rosengart on Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 04:28:17PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 28, 1999, Ben Rosengart wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > > > Perhaps you could look into submitting a section of > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/ports.html with more detailed > > information on how to create a package. In creating a port, > > as documented in the URL above, a package is created in order to > > test, among other things, dependancies. > > The emphasis in my doc is on creating custom packages for local > use, not on rolling packages from scratch. So I don't know if > ports.html is the right place for it. What do you think? In that case, perhaps the tutorials section would be a better place. At http://www.FreeBSD.org/tutorials/ there are various tutorials on how to perform different tasks on FreeBSD systems -- or with applications that happen to run on FreeBSD systems. Given the nature (which I misunderstood) of your document, that would definitely be a better place for it than under the ports section of the handbook. -- |Chris Costello |Asking if computers can think is like asking if submarines can swim. `-------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:33:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BB214C3C; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:33:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA27048; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:32:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:32:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282032.NAA27048@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11089: freebsd user group, sydney Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: freebsd user group, sydney State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:32:29 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added (or updated) in www/en/support.sgml:1.142, by steve. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:34:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1591559D; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:34:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA27141; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:33:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282033.NAA27141@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11087: Portland FreeBSD users group Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Portland FreeBSD users group State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:32:54 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added in www/en/support.sgml:1.148, by grog. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:34:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203A81584E; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:34:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA27417; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:34:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282034.NAA27417@freefall.freebsd.org> To: newton@atdot.dotat.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10472: Mailing list for discussion of Xircom driver development Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Mailing list for discussion of Xircom driver development State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:34:20 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added to the projects page, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:34:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4DF1573C; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA27302; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:34:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:34:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282034.NAA27302@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10762: geocrawler.com mailing list archives Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: geocrawler.com mailing list archives State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:33:38 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: I've included a link to it on the search page. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:35:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from penelope.skunk.org (penelope.skunk.org [208.133.204.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E0814C3C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by penelope.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA66727; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:35:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben Rosengart To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A doc on creating custom packages In-Reply-To: <19990728153258.A11042@holly.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > In that case, perhaps the tutorials section would be a better > place. At http://www.FreeBSD.org/tutorials/ there are various > tutorials on how to perform different tasks on FreeBSD systems > -- or with applications that happen to run on FreeBSD systems. > Given the nature (which I misunderstood) of your document, that > would definitely be a better place for it than under the ports > section of the handbook. Ok, some time this week I'll take a look at the tutorials and see about making my doc fit the style therein. If all goes well, I'll re-send it to the list when I'm done. Thanks. -- Ben UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group StarMedia Network, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 13:36:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C2714C46; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA27583; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:36:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907282036.NAA27583@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dcs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12679: splash(4) contains incorrect references Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: splash(4) contains incorrect references Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dcs Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jul 28 13:35:26 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: dcs has agreed to handle this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 19: 9:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw (bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.18.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F14E14F5D for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:08:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw) Received: (qmail 6004 invoked by uid 9999); 29 Jul 1999 02:06:28 -0000 Date: 29 Jul 1999 02:06:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990729020628.6003.qmail@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw> Reply-To: woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw From: woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Searching the Handbook (was Re: 'rtfm script') X-Disclaimer: »O€j¹qŸ÷ Maxwell ¯ž¹ï¥»«H€º®e®€€£­t³d¡C Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi: FreeBSD.org Search http://doc.wj.o3.net/ FreeBSD Ports COMMENT+DESCR Search http://ports.wj.o3.net/ FreeBSD Ports Makefile Search http://ports2.wj.o3.net/ FreeBSD BIG5 Chinese FAQ http://freebsd.sinica.edu.tw/~woju/search.html FreeBSD BIG5 Chinese FAQ http://bsd.wj.o3.net/ http://ftp.ntu.edu.tw/search ftp/filename search engine About Perlfect Search http://www.perlfect.com/freescripts/search/ About webglimpse http://glimpse.cs.arizona.edu/webglimpse/ It would be my great pleasure to build some "search engines" on/about/for FreeBSD.org, if this is helpful and some one can tell me how (to "annouce" these services or have proper accout on FreeBSD.org to do such things). 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      --------------FBAB417E37F0F90EBC507F6E Content-Type: application/x-unknown-content-type Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="" --------------FBAB417E37F0F90EBC507F6E-- --------------67B67A38DF084445A2CCC65C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 28 21:23: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from seastrom.com (valhalla.seastrom.com [192.148.252.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC781546E for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:23:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rs@seastrom.com) Received: (from rs@localhost) by seastrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id AAA28264; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:22:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rs) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: rs@seastrom.com Subject: Found an error in the handbook From: rs@seastrom.com (Robert E. Seastrom) Date: 29 Jul 1999 00:22:13 -0400 Message-ID: <879080ulu2.fsf@valhalla.seastrom.com> Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sun's model 411 is the type of external enclosure that the tape drive is housed in. It is _not_ the model of an external tape drive from Sun. An external Archive Python 28454 (in a 411 case) is Sun part # 595-3067 Throughput on a dd from /dev/zero appears to be in the 1.5 MByte/sec range, however doing a dd from a file on local disk on the same controller resulted in substantially worse goodput, presumably because of overhead for speed changes on the tape. Perhaps giving this drive a bus of its own would be a good idea. Controller for this test was a Buslogic BT958. Original note is at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/hw-storage.html#HW-STORAGE-PYTHON-28454 Archive Python 28454 The boot message identifier for this drive is ARCHIVE Python 28454-XXX4ASB type 1 removable SCSI 2 density code 0x8c, 512-byte blocks This is a DDS-1 tape drive. Native capacity is 2.5GB on 90m tapes. Data transfer rate is XXX. This drive was repackaged by Sun Microsystems as model 411. Reported by: Bob Bishop To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 4:16:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9D614C0B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from titus@pleach.de) Received: from gateway.pleach-hamburg.de (145.253.71.189) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 29 Jul 1999 13:15:14 +0200 Received: from massa.pleach-hamburg.de (qmailr@massa.pleach-hamburg.de [192.168.1.1]) by gateway.pleach-hamburg.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA04536 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:19:14 +0200 Received: (qmail 12510 invoked from network); 29 Jul 1999 11:07:42 -0000 Received: from titus.pleach-hamburg.de (HELO pleach-hamburg.de) (192.168.1.16) by massa.pleach-hamburg.de with SMTP; 29 Jul 1999 11:07:42 -0000 Message-ID: <37A03798.AE81961D@pleach-hamburg.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:14:32 +0200 From: Titus von Boxberg Organization: ple@ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, marc@freeamp.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, de-bsd-translators@de.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardcopy versions of Handbook and FAQ as BoD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I think that your idea sounds good, but may be a little too big for FreeBSD: I think that FreeBSD hasn't experienced a public interest large enough to expect that people would also spend money for a printed book (speaking only for germany). Otherwise, I think, there would be a serious second source for FreeBSD CD-ROMs; it's really annoying that it always takes several weeks until the new walnut creek distribution is sold e.g. at Lehmann's. SuSE is (or at least were) selling FreeBSD but I'm not aware of any really serious german distributor. So: Before you do this, maybe you should ask a major distributor (either an experienced Linux distributor or e.g. Lehmanns) if they are interested in that project. And there are *lots* of Print On Demand Services (of course without the distribution channel of LIBRI via the bookstores), surely being less expensive. And as you said, even with Libri you are depending on the feedback of the BSD user community. So long, TITUS email: titus@pleach.de marc@freeamp.org wrote: > > There is a new publishing option available in Germany that > I believe could make sense for our project. > > It is called book on demand (BoD) and is a service by > LIBRI, a publishing company and well established distributor to > around 3000 bookstores in Germany. > > One pays a certain fixed amount for a print mastering, > depending on the number of pages. > > The interesting thing is that the books will be available via > the standard book distribution (ISBN and everything) and are > manufactured on demand! > > Customers can order it from their bookstore or via Internet > online stores that cooperate with this distributor. > > Quality is announced as beeing indistinguishable from traditional > paperback. Different formats are available too. > > The customer price for an 80 pages version of the FAQ I estimate to > be something around US $5, a 600 pages version of the Handbook > should be possible for around US$ 30. People outside of Germany > would have to be similiar extra fees like for a traditional > foreign book. > > This will be a non-profit effort. I calculate prices so that they > cover production, I don't want to make money on this. > > My first goal is to have some quality reproductions of the FreeBSD > documentation in a nice paperback format that is affordable for > every user. > > I see this advantages: > > - good quality > - reduced financial risk due to uncertain number of copies sold > - distribution (incl. money handling done by the BoD company) > - the process seems fast > - possible model to get a German translation in the close future, > by adding an amount that would pay a translator > - wide availability (money stores, should be around for some time) > - the BoD company is allowed to make copies, but it has no > exclusive rights > > I see this disadvantages: > - quite a share goes into distribution (LIBRI, bookstore) > - I depend on honest user feedback to do proper calculation for > reimbursing my print mastering expenses > > So please e-mail me what you think of this and if you would be > interested in such books. > > I will try to calculate expenses for typical orders > from Germany and outside and post them here soon. > > Regards, > Marc > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@de.FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe de-bsd-translators" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 7: 3: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rr.iij4u.or.jp (h021.p060.iij4u.or.jp [210.130.60.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55AA0155CB for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sada@rr.iij4u.or.jp) Received: (qmail 6643 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jul 1999 23:02:54 +0900 Date: 29 Jul 1999 23:02:54 +0900 Message-ID: <19990729140254.6642.sada@rr.iij4u.or.jp> To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw Subject: Re: docs/12794: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:17:11 JST". <379BA907190.9458FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> From: sada@rr.IIJ4U.OR.JP (SADA Kenji) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.21] 1997-12/23(Tue) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> On Sun Jul 25 23:46:40 1999, you wrote: >> >Please check the ERRATA info carefully. >> >Nothing about compat22 is reported on it. >> >> Actually I think this information can be found in 3.1-R && 3.2-R's ERRTA. >> Your PR just implied "Some 3.x users could have trouble of missing >> ld.so" but it is not true. The truth is 3.1-R lacked with (aout) ld.so , >> you need to install compat22 distribution; and 3.2-R missed its >> installation directory from /usr/lib/compat(right place) to >> /usr/lib/compat/aout(wrong place). Those file in /usr/lib/compat now >> should be ELF format. >> >> I don't think it is necessary to include these information to FAQ. You >> can check it out from the errata file of every release version. And I >> encourage people to do so. I've carefully read the erratas again and found that they aren't saying about a problem of my PR. The 3.1 errata says about registration of aout libs after installing compat22. The 3.2 errata says nothing about compat22. My PR is about `How to let users know that they should install compat22 before installing aout applications like netscape.' I've seen a lot of such questions on ML and direct mail to me from new 3.2 users. This seems to be a pure FAQ and now I recommend importing the entry into FAQ. Any objection ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 8: 3:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freeamp.org (209.249.146.48.has.no.reverse [209.249.146.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEB614D3B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@freeamp.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by freeamp.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA00569; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:32:19 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:32:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199907291532.IAA00569@freeamp.org> From: To: titus@pleach.de Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, de-bsd-translators@de.freebsd.org In-reply-to: <37A03798.AE81961D@pleach-hamburg.de> (message from Titus von Boxberg on Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:14:32 +0200) Subject: Re: Hardcopy versions of Handbook and FAQ as BoD Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, marc@freeamp.org References: <37A03798.AE81961D@pleach-hamburg.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I think that FreeBSD hasn't experienced > a public interest large enough to expect > that people would also spend money for a printed > book (speaking only for germany). I would wish the answer was so easy. The problem has a bit of the egg/hen dilemma. Why is suddenly everyone talking about Linux, and not about FreeBSD? I believe their visibility has reached a certain critical size. They had some companies that produced easy to use distributions, plus lots of books, magazines, mascots.. Every new FreeBSD item is good and will assure people that they are betting on a healthy, growing OS. I myself would not hesitate to buy the books if they are resonably priced and respect their origin. In fact printing 600p on my laser is not for free after all, and the result is an ugly pile of pages that is not easy to use. So for practical reasons it would make sense to drag this stuff to a printer, for a nice A5 sized paperback edition. Doing this is only justified, if a certain number of copies can be produced. I used to publish a school paper that was quite professional for that time, we printed about 2000 of them per issue, 80 pages, chromolux cover (3 colors printing). It was lots of work, but really nice. Also we had to recoup the 1000-2000$ of printing costs per issue. This was covered by printing ads of local stores, from bigger ads companies etc. But I guess such a business model won work with technical documentation - 600 pages handbook + 50 pages of ads? :-) > Otherwise, I think, there would be a serious > second source for FreeBSD CD-ROMs; it's really > annoying that it always takes several weeks until the > new walnut creek distribution is sold e.g. at Lehmann' I am buggered about this as you are. However for another reason too - I want to see money flowing to the FreeBSD project, but subscribing is a PITA for various reasons. > So: Before you do this, maybe you should ask a major distributor > (either an experienced Linux distributor or e.g. Lehmanns) > if they are interested in that project. End of this month I hope to have all major options covered, contacting Lehmanns -my source for CDs too- is one the options. > And there are *lots* of Print On Demand Services If you have recommendations for - BoD Services - Print Services - CD Manufacturers please mail them to me. Another item is advice on the legal form to choose. I wish I could do without such hassle, but in a regulated western country like Germany, economic activity above a certain scale -and selling books and CDs qualify as such- is not tolerated without creating a foundation/Verein or a company. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 11:50: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CE91513F for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA69359; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907291850.LAA69359@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: docs/12372: man page HISTORY for strdup is wrong Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/12372; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/12372: man page HISTORY for strdup is wrong Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:46:54 +0200 Style precedent taken from the pipe(2) manpage: Index: strdup.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/string/strdup.3,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -d -r1.6 strdup.3 --- strdup.3 1997/02/22 15:03:27 1.6 +++ strdup.3 1999/07/29 18:44:21 @@ -61,5 +61,4 @@ .Sh HISTORY The .Fn strdup -function first appeared in -.Bx 4.4 . +function first appeared in UNIX System V release 2. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 15:50: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB4C14E5C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA87569; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907292250.PAA87569@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: docs/12372: man page HISTORY for strdup is wrong Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/12372; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: Tim Vanderhoek Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/12372: man page HISTORY for strdup is wrong Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:40:16 +0200 On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:39:29 -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > Might want to say "is believed to have first appeared in..." since no > one really seemed certain, if I recall. Fair enough. I'll do that. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 16:23:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (mpp.pro-ns.net [208.200.182.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C93D1562F for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01969; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:22:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199907292322.SAA01969@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: docs/12372: man page HISTORY for strdup is wrong In-Reply-To: <199907291850.LAA69359@freefall.freebsd.org> from Sheldon Hearn at "Jul 29, 1999 11:50:02 am" To: sheldonh@uunet.co.za (Sheldon Hearn) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:22:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The following reply was made to PR docs/12372; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Sheldon Hearn > To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: docs/12372: man page HISTORY for strdup is wrong > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:46:54 +0200 > > Style precedent taken from the pipe(2) manpage: You picked the wrong page to look at for HISTORY style :-(. > .Sh HISTORY > The > .Fn strdup > -function first appeared in > -.Bx 4.4 . > +function first appeared in UNIX System V release 2. Should read: .Sh HISTORY The .Fn strdup function first appeared in .At V.2 . Or as someone else pointed out, "...is believed to have first appeared...", which I don't really like. If we can't prove when it first came to be, and it wasn't in 4.3, but was in 4.4, then at least for the lineage of our systems, the history is correct. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 17:57:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB9B1564B; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA94043; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:56:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907300056.RAA94043@freefall.freebsd.org> To: peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bin/12767: Expand /etc/ttys manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Expand /etc/ttys manpage State-Changed-From-To: feedback->open State-Changed-By: sheldonh State-Changed-When: Thu Jul 29 17:53:17 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: I feel that Peter's suggestion would only contribute unwanted baggage to the manpage, except perhaps for his addendum. I'm leaving it open for a second opinion. :-) Responsible-Changed-From-To: sheldonh->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jul 29 17:53:17 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Handing back to the peanut gallery. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 18: 0:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C3014E96 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA94250; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907300100.SAA94250@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: bin/12767: Expand /etc/ttys manpage Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR bin/12767; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: Peter Jeremy Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/12767: Expand /etc/ttys manpage Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:53:10 +0200 On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:39:53 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > 1) Within a single field (which comprises multiple words enclosed in > double quotes), command arguments can contain multiple words by > enclosing the argument in single quotes. This is a pretty standard UNIX thing, yeah. > I don't read this as any reference to the way that words > within a single quoted field are parsed before being passed to > exec(). You're right, the manpage doesn't explicitly spell out how the command is executed. Imagine, though, how annoying it would be if every manpage that uses a user-specified command for execution spelled out how the exec() family works. I'm happy with believing that "foo bar" means run program foo with argument bar. > 2) There's no command line expansion or substitution. > Reasoned reflection would suggest that this is the behaviour, but > explicitly documenting it can only improve clarity (IMHO). The documentation doesn't say that the command is passed to a shell, so the lack of expansion and substitution should be self-evident. > This wording implies (to me, anyway), that the field _must_ refer > to a terminal special file in /dev - this makes it unclear what to > put here when the entry is starting a daemon that isn't related to > a terminal at all. I wouldn't want to encourage people to launch daemons which aren't associated with a terminal from /etc/ttys -- I'd prefer them to launch their daemons from ${LOCABASE}/etc/rc.d, rc.local etc. > >Permission to close PR, or would you like a second opinion? :-) > If the above arguments don't sway you, I'd like a second opinion. Sure thing. You've dealt with me before, so you know I'm not one to piss on your ideas without giving someone else the opportunity to do the same. :-) I'll leave the PR open for independant review as I do with others where the originator disagrees with me. If someone else likes your idea, it won't be the first time that the originator was right and I was wrong. ;-) Later, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 29 18:29:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E42E15043; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:29:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from green@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA95995; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:27:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907300127.SAA95995@freefall.freebsd.org> To: takamune@avrl.mei.co.jp, green@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kern/11213: lutimes() is the same as utimes() Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: lutimes() is the same as utimes() State-Changed-From-To: closed->open State-Changed-By: green State-Changed-When: Thu Jul 29 18:27:07 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: This is still open for documentation changes. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: green Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jul 29 18:27:07 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: ditto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 1:11:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D284C15695 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA21216; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from des.follo.net (des.follo.net [195.204.143.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9022C15692 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@des.follo.net) Received: (from des@localhost) by des.follo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11602; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:00:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) Message-Id: <199907300800.KAA11602@des.follo.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:00:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Dag-Erling Smørgrav Reply-To: des@des.follo.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12882: Incorrect wording in the linux(8) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12882 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Incorrect wording in the linux(8) man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jul 30 01:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dag-Erling Smørgrav >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Yes Interactive >Environment: FreeBSD 3.x and 4.x. >Description: The linux(8) manual page talks about an inexistent Linux emulator, instead of the Linux image activator. >How-To-Repeat: des@flood ~% whatis linux linux(8) - load the Linux emulator kernel module >Fix: Index: sys/modules/linux/linux.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/modules/linux/linux.8,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 linux.8 --- linux.8 1999/04/23 16:12:03 1.5 +++ linux.8 1999/07/30 07:59:19 @@ -29,17 +29,17 @@ .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm linux -.Nd load the Linux emulator kernel module +.Nd load the Linux image activator module .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm linux .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -utility loads the Linux emulator kernel module. +utility loads the Linux image activator module. .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /modules/linux.ko .It Pa /modules/linux.ko -Linux emulator loadable kernel module. +Linux image activator loadable kernel module. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr kld 4 , .Xr kldload 8 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 1:11:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2F015100; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA21395; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:11:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:11:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907300811.BAA21395@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kern/11213: lutimes() is the same as utimes() Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: lutimes() is the same as utimes() Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mpp Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jul 30 01:11:26 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll work on documenting lutimes & futimes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 2: 9:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BFF151DE; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA25838; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907300908.CAA25838@freefall.freebsd.org> To: takamune@avrl.mei.co.jp, mpp@FreeBSD.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kern/11213: lutimes() is the same as utimes() Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: lutimes() is the same as utimes() State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Fri Jul 30 02:06:04 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: lutimes() and futimes() are now documented in rev 1.6 of libc/sys/utimes.2. Responsible-Changed-From-To: mpp->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jul 30 02:06:04 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 2:52:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0B5156C4 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA28161; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907300950.CAA28161@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: bin/12767: Expand /etc/ttys manpage Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR bin/12767; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bin/12767: Expand /etc/ttys manpage Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:47:24 +0200 On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:41:48 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Actually, I'd assume that (in the absence of evidence to the contrary), > where an arbitrary command string is allowed, that string was passed > to system(3) (or something functionally similar) for execution. > I currently have a situation where I'd prefer to launch something from > init so it'll automatically get restarted if it dies. This isn't as > easy from rc.* (I'd need to wrap it in another process that just > re-exec'd it if it died - init already does this and comes with > assorted sanity checks). Hmmm. I'm convinced on both counts. I'm still not happy with the fact that your diff leads the manpage to repeat itself. Here's a deal: if I can come up with a diff that I prefer over yours by next Tuesday, I'll send it. Otherwise, we'll assume I can't do any better than you can and use yours. ;-) And yes, if I come up with something, I'll pass it by you for approval. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 6:37:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29270157B4 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from TimTTurner@aol.com) Received: from TimTTurner@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id nCSTa07546 (4247) for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:36:50 -0400 (EDT) From: TimTTurner@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:36:49 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd@vt.edu end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 8:26:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web215.mail.yahoo.com (web215.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B483B14BE4 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandersjt@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990730152327.25778.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.192.111.25] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:23:27 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) From: James Sanders Subject: Where is FreeBSD located to be downloaded? To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where is FreeBSD located to be downloaded? I read all this wonderful things about FreeBSD, but where is it? Please e-mail me back with the location. I have my floppys and I'm ready to download away! Thank you. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 9:21:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from buri.drug.com (goki.drug.com [202.33.25.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF87014C58 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:21:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@buri.drug.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by buri.drug.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10555; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:22:26 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from root) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:22:26 +0900 (JST) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199907310122.KAA10555@buri.drug.com> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-URL: file://localhost/usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.1rel.2 Subject: file://localhost/usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 10:43:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A84914CC9; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sada@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA61874; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sada@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:41:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907301741.KAA61874@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sada@FreeBSD.ORG, sada@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12794: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ entry about a problem for lack of ld.so. State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->closed State-Changed-By: sada State-Changed-When: Fri Jul 30 10:40:35 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 11:26: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop1.tm.net.my (pop.tm.net.my [202.188.95.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C8A156EF for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from liauwh@tm.net.my) Received: from kbu-65-69.tm.net.my ([202.188.65.69]) by pop1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990730182545.HREI28404@kbu-65-69.tm.net.my> for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:25:45 +0800 Received: by kbu-65-69.tm.net.my with Microsoft Mail id <01BEDA97.CBCED800@kbu-65-69.tm.net.my>; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:28:30 +0800 Message-ID: <01BEDA97.CBCED800@kbu-65-69.tm.net.my> From: Rukawa To: "'freebsd-doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: I wish to join the BSD project Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:44:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wish to join the BSD project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 12:47:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99FE15214 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA79381; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:36:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA47487; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:59:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:59:33 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Ken Marx Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: groff & truetype fonts Message-ID: <19990730105933.C46018@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <378266B3.D1A128F0@bigshed.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <378266B3.D1A128F0@bigshed.com>; from Ken Marx on Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:27:31PM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ken, On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:27:31PM -0700, Ken Marx wrote: > I recently had to convert truetype fonts for use with groff. > I thought this might be a useful addition to Dave Bodenstab's > *excellent* primer (http://www.pt.freebsd.org/tutorials/fonts/fonts.html). Just so you know -- this is still in my list of things to deal with. I haven't ignored it. In the mean time, if anyone else feels up to the challenge of doing the SGML conversion, please step forward. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 12:47:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB0015712 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA79382; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:36:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA64117; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:40:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:40:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Robert E. Seastrom" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Found an error in the handbook Message-ID: <19990730134034.A62853@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <879080ulu2.fsf@valhalla.seastrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <879080ulu2.fsf@valhalla.seastrom.com>; from Robert E. Seastrom on Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 12:22:13AM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 12:22:13AM -0400, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > Sun's model 411 is the type of external enclosure that the tape drive > is housed in. It is _not_ the model of an external tape drive from Sun. > > An external Archive Python 28454 (in a 411 case) is Sun part # 595-3067 > > Throughput on a dd from /dev/zero appears to be in the 1.5 MByte/sec > range, Thanks. I'll be adding this information (with credit) to the Handbook shortly. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 12:47:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC021570D for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA79383; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:36:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA47337; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:58:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:58:24 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Searching the Handbook (was Re: 'rtfm script') Message-ID: <19990730105824.B46018@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990729020628.6003.qmail@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990729020628.6003.qmail@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw>; from woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw on Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 02:06:28AM -0000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 02:06:28AM -0000, woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw wrote: > It would be my great pleasure to build some "search engines" > on/about/for FreeBSD.org, if this is helpful and some one can > tell me how (to "annouce" these services or have proper accout > on FreeBSD.org to do such things). John Armstrong just started looking at the feasability of using swish-e to index and search the main FreeBSD web site (and mailing list archives). It's probably best if you get in touch with him and pool your resources. Thanks for volunteering. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 12:48: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82F61523B for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA79384; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:36:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA71710; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:06:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:06:28 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggested enhancement to y2kbug.sgml page Message-ID: <19990730170628.A71507@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199906030151.VAA12813@istari.home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906030151.VAA12813@istari.home.net>; from Stephen J. Roznowski on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 09:51:48PM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stephen, Sorry it's taken this long to get back to you; On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 09:51:48PM -0400, Stephen J. Roznowski wrote: > I've been looking at adding the following section to the Y2K bug web page > (patch below). Basically, this adds a letter in front of each problem > report, and creates a little table showing compliance. > > However, after doing this, it doesn't seem like it would be very useful > (since most of the problems weren't fixed until the most recent releases). > Also, I was unsure of where -STABLE releases fit in this timeline. As you say, I don't think it's too useful, and it becomes just one more thing to maintain, which is probably a bad thing. So, unless you were volunteering to maintain it as well it's probably best to drop it. Thanks for the effort though, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 12:53:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58C11523B; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:53:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA79394; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:36:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA47023; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:55:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:55:56 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: jdp@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Cc: John Polstra , wosch@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Timetable for doc/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990730105555.A46018@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990712230859.K54911@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990719231801.A56392@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990719231801.A56392@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 11:18:01PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi John (and -doc) On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 11:18:01PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > [...] > > > Basically, this means any Monday, Wednesday, or Sunday evening are best > > > for this to happen (from my point of view). John, how does this fit in > > > with your schedule? > > > > Summertime is so crazy that I can't really generalize about the days > > of the week. I'm sure we can work out a specific date, though. > > Can we get to work on this (setting a date, I mean). If you can pick a > date we can use sometime in the next couple of weeks, I'll make sure my > schedule is clear, and start warning the mirror site operators of the > impending breakage, and what they might do to mitigate it. # ping jdp jdp is not responding Are you any closer to being able to set a date to do this? Now that I'm laptop enabled I have a bit more flexibility over when I'll be able to do the work, so should be able to accommodate most dates you can come up with. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 13:10:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E9115714 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:10:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (207-172-143-83.s20.as1.hgt.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.143.83]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04754; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907302009.QAA04754@smtp3.erols.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: TimTTurner@aol.com Subject: RE: (no subject) Cc: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 30-Jul-99 TimTTurner@aol.com wrote: > subscribe freebsd@vt.edu > end Try sending it to majordomo@freebsd.org instead. Also, you'll need to include the mailing list like so: subscribe freebsd-doc freebsd@vt.edu --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 13:18:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8020F15758 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:17:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (207-172-143-83.s20.as1.hgt.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.143.83]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with ESMTP id QAA08679; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907302017.QAA08679@smtp4.erols.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990730105933.C46018@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:17:39 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: groff & truetype fonts Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Ken Marx Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 30-Jul-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > Ken, > > On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:27:31PM -0700, Ken Marx wrote: >> I recently had to convert truetype fonts for use with groff. >> I thought this might be a useful addition to Dave Bodenstab's >> *excellent* primer (http://www.pt.freebsd.org/tutorials/fonts/fonts.html). > > > > Just so you know -- this is still in my list of things to deal with. I > haven't ignored it. > > In the mean time, if anyone else feels up to the challenge of doing the > SGML conversion, please step forward. > > Cheers, Just point at me the stuff to convert. The tutorials are in DocBook, correct? > N --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 13:51:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A49C15716; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA74454; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907302051.NAA74454@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mi@aldan.algebra.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12619: dhclient-lease(8) does not exist; dhclient.leases(5) does Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: dhclient-lease(8) does not exist; dhclient.leases(5) does State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Jul 30 13:51:01 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 14:11: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AF41521B; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA76138; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:11:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907302111.OAA76138@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jobaldwi@vt.edu, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12075: [PATCH] Ports Changes Page Does not List Recent Releases.. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Ports Changes Page Does not List Recent Releases.. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Jul 30 14:10:44 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: I think this PR is now obsolete -- when I looked at the ports.cgi script this afternoon it was showing entries for the 3.[1,2] line, so the comments in the PR don't apply any more. Thanks for the suggestion though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 14:14:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FF415713; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:14:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA76322; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907302112.OAA76322@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12734: [patches] bring makewhatis.local* stuff to up-to-date state Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [patches] bring makewhatis.local* stuff to up-to-date state State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Jul 30 14:12:22 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 14:22:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ECC151FA; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA76739; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:20:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907302120.OAA76739@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hgoldst@mpcs.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10512: ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not documented State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Jul 30 14:20:11 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Document the error in write(2). Thanks for the pointer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 30 21:41:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EAE14D32; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24270; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:40:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA97879; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:40:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990730105555.A46018@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Timetable for doc/ repository changes Cc: wosch@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > # ping jdp > jdp is not responding Sorry! I've been on the road a lot. It's summertime. :-) How about Sunday, August 15? John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 31 5:30:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5808414E90 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 05:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.196]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5285; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:30:50 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04637; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:19:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:19:42 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: James Sanders Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD located to be downloaded? Message-ID: <19990731141942.B4509@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990730152327.25778.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i In-Reply-To: <19990730152327.25778.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com>; from James Sanders on Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:23:27AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * James Sanders (sandersjt@yahoo.com) [990730 19:48]: > Where is FreeBSD located to be downloaded? Try one of the multitude of FreeBSD FTP mirrors? ftp..freebsd.org ftp.freebsd.org ftp[1-5].freebsd.org -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Cum angelis et pueris, fideles inveniamur. Quis est iste Rex gloriae...? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 31 7:18:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from correio2.openlink.com.br (relay.openlink.com.br [200.240.24.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E1B14FBD for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lgmontenegro@openlink.com.br) Received: from suporte10.openlink.com.br (unverified [200.240.24.41]) by correio2.openlink.com.br (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:14:46 -0300 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990731112027.007eee90@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: lgmontenegro#pop.openlink.com.br@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:20:27 -0300 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Leonardo Goncalves Subject: Booting FreeBSD under DOS partition. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How can I boot FreeBSD under a DOS partition, after booting DOS (like loadlin from Linux)? Thanks a lot! Leonardo Goncalves Montenegro _____________________________ "-You can't have a better tomorrow if you are thinking about yesterday all the time" --Charles F. Kettering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 31 8:11:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7762C15113; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:11:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04626; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:47:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:46:59 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Alton, Matthew" Cc: "'Nik Clayton'" , "'Matthew Dillon'" , "David E. Cross" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOC volunteer WAS:RE: userfs help needed. Message-ID: <19990730234659.A3260@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Reply-To: doc@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Alton, Matthew on Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 04:09:20PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ cc'd to -doc, reply-to points there ] On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 04:09:20PM -0500, Alton, Matthew wrote: > I prefer to work in flat ASCII. Perhaps the doc project can HTMLize > the final product. We can, it just takes longer, that's all. It would make life simpler if you can follow the general structure, which basically consists of an overall document, containing zero or more parts, each part containing one or more chapters, each chapter containing zero or more sections, each section divided in to zero or more subsections (and so on, down to sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sections). Each part, chapter, and section has a mandatory title. The Handbook is a good example of a document that uses parts, further divided in to chapters, and the Doc. Proj. primer is a good example of a document that dispenses with parts, and just uses chapters and sections. Generally, something like Title Abstract ..................... ..................... ..................... Chapter 1: Overview ..................... ..................... ..................... and then further chapters as necessary. Within the text, set off things that are 'out of band' information, like notes, tips, and important information. If you include instructions for the user to follow, please use "#" for the root prompt, and "%" for the regular user prompt. Refer to commands as 'command(n)', and assume that in the web (and PDF) version that will be generated that this will automatically turn in to a link to the manual page. The Doc. Proj. primer has a (sparse) writing style chapter that covers things like contractions, serial commas, and so on. Of course, you don't have to do any of this, it just makes it harder for whoever turns it in to DocBook (which will probably be me) to do the conversion. Once again, thanks for volunteering to do this. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 31 8:12:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2FF15159 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA66942; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907311510.IAA66942@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/12882: Incorrect wording in the linux(8) man page Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/12882; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: Dag-Erling Smrgrav Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/12882: Incorrect wording in the linux(8) man page Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:35:05 +0100 How do, On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 10:00:35AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > Index: sys/modules/linux/linux.8 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/modules/linux/linux.8,v > retrieving revision 1.5 > diff -u -r1.5 linux.8 > --- linux.8 1999/04/23 16:12:03 1.5 > +++ linux.8 1999/07/30 07:59:19 > @@ -29,17 +29,17 @@ > -.Nd load the Linux emulator kernel module > +.Nd load the Linux image activator module It's OK, I won't be offended if you decide to commit this yourself :-) N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 31 14: 1:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610FD14C4C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA70464; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:59:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01869; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:33:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:33:37 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Rukawa Cc: "'freebsd-doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: I wish to join the BSD project Message-ID: <19990731183337.A1713@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <01BEDA97.CBCED800@kbu-65-69.tm.net.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <01BEDA97.CBCED800@kbu-65-69.tm.net.my>; from Rukawa on Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 08:44:56AM +0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 08:44:56AM +0800, Rukawa wrote: > I wish to join the BSD project Welcome aboard. What do you want to do? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 31 14: 8:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E0214EE4; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA70484; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:59:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03530; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:47:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:47:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Polstra Cc: Nik Clayton , wosch@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Timetable for doc/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990731184707.C1713@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990730105555.A46018@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from John Polstra on Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 09:40:33PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 09:40:33PM -0700, John Polstra wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > # ping jdp > > jdp is not responding > > Sorry! I've been on the road a lot. It's summertime. :-) No problem. I'm sat outside at the moment, shading the laptop screen from the sun and knocking back quite a large cocktail. This is quite definitely the life! Just out of interest, do you know what's happened to Peter Wemm? > How about Sunday, August 15? Sounds good to me, it's in my diary now. I'll alert the various web mirror site maintainers and let them know that we're going to break the tree. Right, you're 7 hours behind where I am. Hmm. If you let me know what time (your time) you'll be able to do this, I'll make sure that I'm around afterwards to grab a copy of the repository and start fixing the things that will break. Hopefully we can have the doc/ (and www/) trees fully functional within 24 hours of the change. Cheers for this John. I've got a lot of stuff sat in the pipe just waiting to be committed after this happens. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 31 14: 9:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42B214C23 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:08:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA70488; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:59:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02727; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:40:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:40:32 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Baldwin Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Ken Marx Subject: Re: groff & truetype fonts Message-ID: <19990731184032.B1713@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990730105933.C46018@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <199907302017.QAA08679@smtp4.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907302017.QAA08679@smtp4.erols.com>; from John Baldwin on Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 04:17:39PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 04:17:39PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On 30-Jul-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:27:31PM -0700, Ken Marx wrote: > >> I recently had to convert truetype fonts for use with groff. > >> I thought this might be a useful addition to Dave Bodenstab's > >> *excellent* primer (http://www.pt.freebsd.org/tutorials/fonts/fonts.html). > > > > > > > > Just so you know -- this is still in my list of things to deal with. I > > haven't ignored it. > > > > In the mean time, if anyone else feels up to the challenge of doing the > > SGML conversion, please step forward. > > > > Cheers, > > Just point at me the stuff to convert. The tutorials are in DocBook, correct? Rather than re-post Ken's documentation, if you search the -doc mailing list for a message from kmarx@bigshed.com with the subject groff & truetype fonts you'll find his original, 280+ line message which included the new text. Yes, the existing fonts tutorial is in doc/en/tutorials/fonts/fonts.docb, marked up in DocBook. This is a pain, because there are a number of things which need to happen to that file to bring it in line with the evolving standards for the FDP. For example, it should really be an

    rather than a , the indentation is wrong, it doesn't use the &man.foo.n; entities, and so on. However, trying to fix all these in one commit makes things difficult for the translators. The best bet is probably to merge in Ken's text without making any formatting changes to the file, or introducing new entity references and so on. This at least gets the text in to the tree. We can then sort out the stylistic and structure issues later. Thanks for volunteering to do this -- as ever, if you've got questions about markup choices as you're doing the conversion, don't hesitate to get in touch. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message