From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 0:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4502115036 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA39903; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912120810.AAA39903@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Josef Grosch Subject: Re: docs/15429: Jewish calendar is out of date Reply-To: Josef Grosch Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/15429; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Josef Grosch To: Chris Costello Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15429: Jewish calendar is out of date Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:01:05 -0800 On Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 08:19:23PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Sat, Dec 11, 1999, Josef Grosch sent the whole update file. > > Typically you need only submit a patch! Try ``man patch'' for > more information on making a patch, and read > http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/, specifically the section on > contributing to FreeBSD. Thank you. I do understand about how to make a patch. My mistake was to submit a pr without including a patch. Last time I submitted a patch I was told to drop the patch in the incoming area of ftp.freebsd.org. I assume that this process has changed. Sorry for the mix-up. The files you need can be found at: ftp://moose.mooseriver.com/pub/FreeBSD/Calendar Thank you Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.3 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 2: 3:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097A914E01 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 02:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA97772; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 02:03:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 02:03:34 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199912121003.CAA97772@apollo.backplane.com> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Problem compiling /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is with the most recent version of jade in ports: apollo:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os# make /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks -c /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-4.x/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-4.x/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-4.x/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/article.sgml > article.html Segmentation fault - core dumped *** Error code 139 Stop in /FreeBSD/FreeBSD-4.x/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os. apollo:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os# Also, the make incorrectly succeeds the second time you run it because 'article.html' now exists. The Makefile should probably generate the output to a temporary file and then rename it after successful completion. A few other jade runs also appear to seg fault. en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook, for example. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 2:52:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEBB14FA8 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 02:52:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA82894; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:34:37 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:34:37 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Doc Proj members page. Message-ID: <19991212103437.A82758@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991210232552.K26894@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991210232552.K26894@holly.calldei.com>; from Chris Costello on Fri, Dec 10, 1999 at 11:25:52PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 10, 1999 at 11:25:52PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > Should I go ahead and delete the "LinuxDoc to DocBook > conversion" entry now? I don't see anything LinuxDoc here > anymore. Yep. I'm slowly coming out of my swamped period, just in time for Xmas N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 3: 0: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC41E14DF0 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 03:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA48764; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 03:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 03:00:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912121100.DAA48764@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14563; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:46:42 +0000 On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 05:06:22PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >Synopsis: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' > > >Description: > > Typing "man 4 fd" produces a man page talking generally about UNIX > file descriptors. > > This is in conflict with the established convention that `man 4 foo' > produces documentation for the `foo' device type (and its driver). > > `man 4 fd' should produce documentation relating to the `fd' (floppy > disk) device type. (See `man 4 fdc') > > >How-To-Repeat: > > man 4 fd > > >Fix: > > Use `man 4 fdc' instead. Sorry, I don't understand. The situation is as you say it is. Are you documenting the fact, or do you want it fixed? If you want it fixed, did you have anything in mind? % apropos fd works, with the fdc manual page being the third thing it lists. As things stand, section 4 of the manuals seems to be the right place to put both the fd and fdc manual pages. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 9:40: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D7214DA0 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA26814; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB5E15095 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:30:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id SAA03369 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:30:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA37226; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:02:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy) Message-Id: <199912121702.SAA37226@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:02:42 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Weisgerber Reply-To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15439: Add update target to doc/Makefile Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15439 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add update target to doc/Makefile >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 12 09:40:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christian Weisgerber >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Both the src and ports trees support a make target "update" which updates the respective tree by CVSup or CVS to the latest version. Configuration is typically provided through /etc/make.conf. The patch below adds this capability to the top level Makefile of the doc tree. The code is cribbed from {src,ports}/Makefile. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- doc/Makefile.orig Sun Dec 12 17:34:01 1999 +++ doc/Makefile Sun Dec 12 17:48:24 1999 @@ -14,4 +14,24 @@ .endif DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR} + +update: +.if defined(SUP_UPDATE) +.if !defined(DOCSUPFILE) + @echo "Error: Please define DOCSUPFILE before doing make update." + @exit 1 +.endif + @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" + @echo ">>> Running ${SUP}" + @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" + @${SUP} ${SUPFLAGS} ${DOCSUPFILE} +.elif defined(CVS_UPDATE) + @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" + @echo ">>> Updating ${.CURDIR} from cvs repository" ${CVSROOT} + @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" + cd ${.CURDIR}; cvs -q update -P -d +.else + @echo "Error: Please define either SUP_UPDATE or CVS_UPDATE first." +.endif + .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.subdir.mk" --- src/etc/defaults/make.conf.orig Sun Dec 12 17:41:23 1999 +++ src/etc/defaults/make.conf Sun Dec 12 17:42:11 1999 @@ -185,6 +185,7 @@ #SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile #SUPFILE1= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/secure-supfile #PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile +#DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile # # top(1) uses a hash table for the user names. The size of this hash # can be tuned to match the number of local users. The table size should >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 10: 7:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1851B14CC3; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:07:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.199.189]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA247E; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:07:12 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA52418; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:07:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:07:06 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: jhb@freebsd.org Subject: Some more patches, whitespace for the handbook Message-ID: <19991212190706.C49853@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, here are some patches to eliminate the emacs minddead whitespace additions. See http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/handbook.diff It's somewhat over 900k though. =) Translation teams can probably disregard these. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 13: 2:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3907214D2D; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:02:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA40452; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:02:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:02:20 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912122102.NAA40452@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ilmar@ints.ru, jkh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15090: Tekram-390 is supported Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Tekram-390 is supported State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Sun Dec 12 12:59:56 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: done, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 14: 0: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A4415052 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA45089; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7169B14E00 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FMN003CSE08LG@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net> for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:50:32 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA39341; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:52:14 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199912122152.PAA39341@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:52:14 -0600 (CST) From: chris@freebsd.org Reply-To: chris@freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15441: man.cgi does not properly handle man.cgi?somepage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15441 >Category: docs >Synopsis: man.cgi does not properly handle man.cgi?somepage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 12 14:00:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Project >Environment: The FreeBSD web site. >Description: It seems that I used to be able to query http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpage but now, it simply says it cannot find the page, no matter what I specify. However, http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=manpage works. >How-To-Repeat: See description. >Fix: Don't know, the real man.cgi is not in the www tree. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 14:18:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F2614E27; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:18:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA46134; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:18:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:18:42 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912122218.OAA46134@freefall.freebsd.org> To: billf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, billf@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15439: Add update target to doc/Makefile Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Add update target to doc/Makefile Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->billf Responsible-Changed-By: billf Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Dec 12 14:18:19 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I was the fool who added PORTSSUPFILE, I'll look at this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 14:35:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B12B14E0C; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:35:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA46922; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:35:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912122235.OAA46922@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15441: man.cgi does not properly handle man.cgi?somepage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man.cgi does not properly handle man.cgi?somepage Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->wosch Responsible-Changed-By: chris Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Dec 12 14:35:09 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Wolfram seems to own the real man.cgi script. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 18:10:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD2B1541E for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA63481; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 648D014E3A; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:01:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19991213020158.648D014E3A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: spcoltri@unm.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/15445: Please update email address in handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15445 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Please update email address in handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 12 18:10:02 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Steve Coltrin >Release: >Organization: The ccr project: Studying living information systems >Environment: >Description: My preferred email address is now spcoltri@unm.edu, rather than @io.com. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: In doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/, apply --- chapter.sgml.orig Sun Dec 12 18:57:37 1999 +++ chapter.sgml Sun Dec 12 18:57:51 1999 @@ -4840,7 +4840,7 @@ - Steve Coltrin spcoltri@io.com + Steve Coltrin spcoltri@unm.edu >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 20:51: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB49214F0D; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Thrumbar@Worldnet.att.net) Received: from 11.neworleans-01-02rs16rt.la.dial-access.att.net ([12.73.238.11]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991213045047.GYLL5516@11.neworleans-01-02rs16rt.la.dial-access.att.net>; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:50:47 +0000 From: Thrumbar Pathfinder To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Developer's Interface Guide for IA-64 Servers (DIG64) Adopter Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:47:45 -0600 Organization: OmniCorp Interstellar Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Attention, all FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD developers.. This is a chance we cannot ignore.. Please form up a development team with a central tram leader and get signed up for this offer. The Documentation personnel should sign up for the Contributors link to add BSD's voice in setting the guidelines for future BSD development for all three forms... Please read below.. (also, team leaders, send me a e-mail when you sign-up to keep me informed as to the process and to get an idea on how many teams there is involved) About the DIG64 Leading hardware and software vendors have formed an industry group to develop the DIG64 guidelines. These guidelines establish basic system building blocks, interfaces, and programming conventions for upcoming IA-64 based servers and their system-level software in order to define hardware and software compatibility and interoperability.=20 DIG64 is...=20 an industry-driven set of technical guidelines that define hardware, firmware and operating system's compatibility for IA-64 servers providing IT with systems built on common, stabilized interfaces that improve reliability and interoperability, lower qualification and support costs developed and backed by the key IA-64 OEMs, OSVs, and BIOS vendors who are contributing to its development and are building compliant products allowing the industry to accelerate the pace of IA-64 technology adoption=20 By defining common building blocks and interfaces and proactively addressing legacy issues, the DIG64 provides an array of benefits for both developers and IT organizations.=20 =46or developers, the DIG64: =20 Increases the efficiency of the design process, freeing developers to focus design resources of features that add unique value and differentiate their products in the marketplace. =20 Gives firmware and OS vendors a known set of interfaces to build to, enabling them to confidentially develop their products concurrently with the hardware and shrink time to markets. =20 Provides a technology migration roadmap that extends the planning horizon for developers and allows them to create designs with increased longevity.=20 =46or business users and Information Technology (IT) departments: =20 Standard interfaces and interoperable layers enhance the reliability and robustness of the resulting servers as well as lowering qualification costs. Since developers find it easier to build components that work together, customers can enjoy a greater choice of robust, innovative server solutions. Because the DIG64 addresses the migration of support-intensive, obsolete technologies to newer, more robust choices, IT departments can control or reduce the cost of server support.=20 DIG64 Defined =20 The DIG64 specification defines basic system building blocks, interfaces and programming conventions between IA-64 based servers and system-level software such as the operating system and device drivers. The specification covers:=20 Core system components such as the processor, chipset, memory, I/O bus, and server management hardware.=20 =20 Interfaces to peripheral devices for networking, communications and storage.=20 =20 Low-level firmware interfaces to the operating system for system configuration, boot and runtime services.=20 The guide does not create new standards and interfaces, but selects components and interfaces from already existing technologies. To ensure interoperability, the DIG64 also specifies implementation requirements for each specification or standard.=20 The DIG64 spells out a roadmap for eliminating obsolete technologies. Release 1.0, which is currently available , pertains to servers=20 based on the Intel=AE Itanium=99 processor. Subsequent versions will address future processors as they are developed. A three-level hierarchy of required, recommended and optional features enables vendors to choose how quickly they want to remove older technologies.=20 The DIG64 is operating-system independent, promoting cross-platform interoperability among servers running Windows 2000*, Linux and other UNIX* operating systems.=20 Join Other Industry Leaders Already Building Compatible IA-64 Server Solutions! =20 =20 There is still time to get involved by becoming a DIG64 Adopter member. To find out more about the advantages of becoming a DIG64 Adopter, take look at the DIG64 www site.... http://www.dig64.org/ To sign up as a Developer's Interface Guide for IA-64 Servers (DIG64) Adopter, complete all of the information at the link listed below and hit the submit button. You will then be able to download a "DIG64 Adopters Agreement". http://www.dig64.org/signup.htm By becoming a DIG64 Contributor, you will be able to provide technical input into the development of the DIG64 guidelines in addition to gaining access to the latest published draft. All input will be reviewed by the DIG64 Working Group for possible inclusion in the guideline. http://www.dig64.org/contributor.htm When you have formed your group please e-mail me so that I will know how many groups there are.. Please include a list of the individuals on the team and their position on said team as well as any contact information you are willing to provide... Thrumbar@Worldnet.att.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 12 21: 9: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6F114D1B; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:09:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA78048; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:09:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:09:07 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912130509.VAA78048@freefall.freebsd.org> To: spcoltri@unm.edu, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15445: Please update email address in handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Please update email address in handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Sun Dec 12 21:08:50 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 1:50: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7ED15005 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 01:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA02782; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 01:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 01:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912130950.BAA02782@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Reply-To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14563; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: Nik Clayton Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 01:48:04 -0800 In message <19991212104642.B82758@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>, you wrote: >On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 05:06:22PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> >Synopsis: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' >> >> >Description: >> >> Typing "man 4 fd" produces a man page talking generally about UNIX >> file descriptors. >> >> This is in conflict with the established convention that `man 4 foo' >> produces documentation for the `foo' device type (and its driver). >> >> `man 4 fd' should produce documentation relating to the `fd' (floppy >> disk) device type. (See `man 4 fdc') >> >> >How-To-Repeat: >> >> man 4 fd >> >> >Fix: >> >> Use `man 4 fdc' instead. > >Sorry, I don't understand. The situation is as you say it is. Are you >documenting the fact, or do you want it fixed? I'd like to see it fixed. >If you want it fixed, did you have anything in mind? I thought that the solution I was proposing was abundantly clear in what I wrote: >> `man 4 fd' should produce documentation relating to the `fd' (floppy >> disk) device type. >As things >stand, section 4 of the manuals seems to be the right place to put both >the fd and fdc manual pages. I agree completely, but `man 4 fd' *should* yield a man page that talks about floppy disk device files... *not* one that talks about UNIX file descriptors. (You can just trash the one that talks about file descrip- tors as far as I'm concerned. If people want to know about those, they should go buy a general book about UNIX/C programming.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 4:18: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kindred.agsmedia.pl (PrettyHateMachine.agsmedia.pl [212.244.100.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C600415012 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neq@kindred.agsmedia.pl) Received: (qmail 921 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 1999 13:17:32 -0000 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: From: neq Date: 13 Dec 1999 13:17:31 +0000 Message-ID: Lines: 5 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -- neq of AGS New Media // [ http://kindred.agsmedia.pl/neq ] // [ neq@ags.pl ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 4:48:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218EF14EBC; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:48:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA77062; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:31:44 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:31:43 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Cc: obrien@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automount.8 Message-ID: <19991213123143.A66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199908170955.NAA02471@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199908170955.NAA02471@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from Alexey M. Zelkin on Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 01:55:24PM +0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 01:55:24PM +0400, Alexey M. Zelkin wrote: > I see that am-utils staff added into FreeBSD tree without removing of > automount.8 (as described in src/contrib/amd/FREEBSD-upgrade). But > some tools in am-utils are referencing to automount(8) tool. > > What you propose ? Should this reference be removed or maybe it's > other level problem ? Did anything happen about this Alexey? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 10: 8:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC36A15212; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:08:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA05838; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:08:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:08:10 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912131808.KAA05838@freefall.freebsd.org> To: saeki@saskg.semicon.sony.co.jp, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12951: missing link to japanese mailing list guidance on WWW Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: missing link to japanese mailing list guidance on WWW State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 13 10:07:56 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 10:11:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2436315167; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:11:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA06235; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:11:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:11:31 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912131811.KAA06235@freefall.freebsd.org> To: joanra@jet.es, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12969: Informacion incorrecta para versiones FreeBSD 3.x en el Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Informacion incorrecta para versiones FreeBSD 3.x en el Handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 13 10:11:12 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: PR (in Spanish) seems to be about the fact that the information about the Linux shim layer was out of date. Having looked at the Handbook, the information now seems to be up to date (at least, as far as FreeBSD 3.x and below is concerned). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 10:12:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5391D15168; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA06389; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:12:11 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912131812.KAA06389@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, peter@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13034: incorrect (old/obsolete) manpage for named(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: incorrect (old/obsolete) manpage for named(8) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->peter Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 13 10:11:40 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: BIND is Peter's baby. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 10:13:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2259215186; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:13:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA06598; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:13:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:13:20 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912131813.KAA06598@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jdp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13116: typo in ms(7) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in ms(7) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jdp Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 13 10:12:35 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: The patch is trivial, but this is in contrib/, which I'm wary of touching. If JDP OK's it, assign it back to me, and I'll commit. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 10:14:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CDB15514; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA06898; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:14:52 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912131814.KAA06898@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eserte@cs.tu-berlin.de, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13439: Update docproj.docbook.mk for palm doc format Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update docproj.docbook.mk for palm doc format State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 13 10:14:17 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed to doc.docbook.mk, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 11: 0:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EAE1518A for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA12013 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912131900.LAA12013@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [1999/08/05] docs/12988 doc [Patch] Fix more occurances of 'sd' in FA o [1999/09/14] docs/13746 doc Incorrect version in FAQ o [1999/11/06] docs/14738 doc wrong type of arg is described for kgetst o [1999/12/11] docs/15427 doc Some man pages print a blank first page 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi o [1999/08/23] docs/13333 doc remove rtld(1) XREF in dlopen.3 o [1999/08/23] misc/13341 doc FAQ 8.7 addition - booting drive 1 from N o [1999/08/24] docs/13354 doc URL corrections for www/en/gallery/galler o [1999/08/24] docs/13356 doc Corrections to www/en/gallery/gallery.db o [1999/08/28] docs/13441 doc incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env o [1999/08/28] docs/13442 doc docproj-primer does not mention where to o [1999/09/09] docs/13657 doc mklocale(1) man errors o [1999/09/15] docs/13767 doc rstat_svc(8) manpage present, but /etc/rs o [1999/09/17] docs/13792 doc Difficult to find documentation of "secur o [1999/09/19] docs/13815 doc Out-of-date FAQ entries o [1999/09/21] docs/13878 doc No isnanf(3) documentation o [1999/09/22] docs/13914 doc global(1) manpage does not explain -v opt o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13956 doc commercial vendor: JAV-Associates Consult o [1999/09/25] docs/13957 doc Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. o [1999/09/25] docs/13959 doc cgi notes o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/09/25] docs/13970 doc FreeBSD Newbie Newsletter o [1999/09/28] docs/14024 doc Several manpages still mentions hosts.den o [1999/09/29] docs/14035 doc tzfile.h referenced in tzfile(5) doesn't o [1999/10/04] docs/14112 doc calls in ddb doc don't exist any longer o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/06] docs/14159 doc Commercial Vendors - Software: Deskware, o [1999/10/06] docs/14165 doc FDP introduction article o [1999/10/10] docs/14248 doc codify proposed style o [1999/10/13] docs/14319 doc hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf o [1999/10/14] docs/14320 doc tzfile manual page has omissions and erro o [1999/10/14] docs/14321 doc Missing ld.so.1. o [1999/10/19] docs/14426 doc FAQ entry on kernel panics needs updating o [1999/10/21] docs/14449 doc time clamping effect of securelevel not d o [1999/10/25] docs/14530 doc Printed manual pages have extraneous blan o [1999/10/25] bin/14532 doc Much of cam_cdbparse(3) prints in Courier o [1999/10/27] docs/14563 doc Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [1999/10/29] docs/14595 doc The ipfw `log' suboption is not documente o [1999/11/03] docs/14682 doc lprm(1) unaware of lp(1) Environment Vari o [1999/11/12] docs/14858 doc pthread_cond_{destroy,timed_wait,wait}.3 o [1999/11/16] docs/14936 doc Update for chpass.1 man page o [1999/11/17] docs/14952 doc Missing man page (terminfo(5)) mentioned o [1999/11/20] docs/15004 doc isdnd.rc.5 typo (changing -> charging, an o [1999/11/21] docs/15036 doc update of queue manpage o [1999/12/02] docs/15234 doc sh(1) man page have capitalised instance o [1999/12/04] docs/15259 doc amd(8) refers to nonexistent automount(8) o [1999/12/06] docs/15300 doc assorted update for FAQ o [1999/12/10] docs/15408 doc Description of ls and nlist wrong in man o [1999/12/11] docs/15429 doc Jewish calendar is out of date 55 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 12:13: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F661514F; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.199.123]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAB7048; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:12:56 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA66504; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:25:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:25:14 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: obrien@freebsd.org Subject: jade Message-ID: <19991213202514.H65618@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ...is still broken. [on CURRENT] Gets me sig 11's. And no it is not my memory since jade is the only thing going sig 11. Going to try and see if make world succeeds this time and then rebuild jade again. JFYI, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 12:21:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE352151DA; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:21:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12853; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:21:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jade In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:25:14 +0100." <19991213202514.H65618@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:21:37 -0800 Message-ID: <12849.945116497@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's odd, I just built a few -current snapshot release with docs enabled and it worked! - Jordan > ...is still broken. [on CURRENT] > > Gets me sig 11's. > > And no it is not my memory since jade is the only thing going sig 11. > > Going to try and see if make world succeeds this time and then rebuild > jade again. > > JFYI, > > -- > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] > Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... > The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project > Atone me to my throes curtail... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 12:58:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDDE151CA for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darrylo@sr.hp.com) Received: from postal.sr.hp.com (postal.sr.hp.com [15.4.46.173]) by atlrel2.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7E711EA for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mina.sr.hp.com (root@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by postal.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id MAA06001; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (darrylo@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by mina.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id MAA03405; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:58:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912132058.MAA03405@mina.sr.hp.com> To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jade Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:25:14 +0100." <19991213202514.H65618@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:58:25 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > ...is still broken. [on CURRENT] > > Gets me sig 11's. > > And no it is not my memory since jade is the only thing going sig 11. [ If you're still having problems after rebuilding ... ] You are using the port, right? (Stock jade needs patches to work with the latest gcc.) In the past, when jade dumps core, forcing jade to build w/archive libraries has fixed things. Ugly, but true. I think this is some subtle bug (or some subtle C++ portability issue) with jade and shared libraries, as this problem seems to appear on multiple platforms (x86, Solaris, & HP-UX). [ Just FYI, jade built from the port on a Dec. 2 -current works fine, even with shared libraries. ] -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 15:36: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.mail.easynet.net (kiwi.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E1515969; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:35:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from cream.org (boothman.easynet.co.uk [194.154.100.117]) by kiwi.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE75DAF7C; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:35:50 +0000 (GMT) Content-Length: 499 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19991212103437.A82758@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:37:27 -0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Boothman To: Nik Clayton Subject: Automated Docs Index (Was :Re: Doc Proj members page.) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-Dec-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > > Yep. I'm slowly coming out of my swamped period, just in time for Xmas > Ditto. I've let my Automated Index of Ports and Other Documentation just sit around for ages now, I'm gonna get back onto it about now. http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~andrew/docindex/ for those who can still remember what I'm talking about! :) --- Andrew Boothman FreeBSD UK User Group http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/~andrew/ http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 15:36:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (ccssu.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968EA14ED2 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.0) with UUCP id BAA25054; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:24:18 +0200 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id WAA29020; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:11:01 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:11:01 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Message-ID: <19991213221101.A602@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <199912130950.BAA02782@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199912130950.BAA02782@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 01:50:02AM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >> Typing "man 4 fd" produces a man page talking generally about UNIX > >> file descriptors. > >> > >> This is in conflict with the established convention that `man 4 foo' > >> produces documentation for the `foo' device type (and its driver). > >> > >> `man 4 fd' should produce documentation relating to the `fd' (floppy > >> disk) device type. (See `man 4 fdc') > >> > >> >How-To-Repeat: > >> > >> man 4 fd > >> > >> >Fix: > >> > >> Use `man 4 fdc' instead. > > > >Sorry, I don't understand. The situation is as you say it is. Are you > >documenting the fact, or do you want it fixed? > > I'd like to see it fixed. What exactly ? Rename fdc(4) -> fd(4) ? Ok. Any suggestions on new name for current fd(4) then ? PS: -doc guys! It would be nice to get your opinions also. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 16:48: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from monkeys.com (i180.value.net [206.14.136.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA198156E9 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:47:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: from monkeys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10956; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:47:32 -0800 (PST) To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:11:01 +0300. <19991213221101.A602@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:47:31 -0800 Message-ID: <10954.945132451@monkeys.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19991213221101.A602@scorpion.crimea.ua>, you wrote: >hi, > >On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 01:50:02AM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >> >> Typing "man 4 fd" produces a man page talking generally about UNIX >> >> file descriptors. >> >> >> >> This is in conflict with the established convention that `man 4 foo' >> >> produces documentation for the `foo' device type (and its driver). >> >> >> >> `man 4 fd' should produce documentation relating to the `fd' (floppy >> >> disk) device type. (See `man 4 fdc') >> >> >> >> >How-To-Repeat: >> >> >> >> man 4 fd >> >> >> >> >Fix: >> >> >> >> Use `man 4 fdc' instead. >> > >> >Sorry, I don't understand. The situation is as you say it is. Are you >> >documenting the fact, or do you want it fixed? >> >> I'd like to see it fixed. > >What exactly ? Rename fdc(4) -> fd(4) ? Ok. Any suggestions on new name for >current fd(4) then ? Just throw that away. Or else take that material and put it into intro(2), where it ought to be. Basic information about data thingies... e.g. unix file descriptors, UIDs, GIDs, timeval thingies, semaphore identifiers, SysV shared memory identifiers, and all info about all such basic data thingies should go into intro(2). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 16:48: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E44A1527B for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:48:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FMP004RPGSE6N@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:45:51 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04147; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:48:21 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:48:20 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' In-reply-to: <199912130950.BAA02782@freefall.freebsd.org> To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991213184820.K868@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <199912130950.BAA02782@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 13, 1999, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I agree completely, but `man 4 fd' *should* yield a man page that talks > about floppy disk device files... *not* one that talks about UNIX file > descriptors. (You can just trash the one that talks about file descrip- > tors as far as I'm concerned. If people want to know about those, they > should go buy a general book about UNIX/C programming.) Or it could be the other way: You could trash the man page for the disk driver. If people want to know about those, they can buy a Unix book or read the source code. It works both ways. -- |Chris Costello |Customer: A primitive life form at the bottom of the food chain. `---------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 16:51:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAA91527B for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:51:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FMP004D0H186N@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:51:08 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04182; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:53:39 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:53:38 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' In-reply-to: <10954.945132451@monkeys.com> To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: Alexey Zelkin , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991213185338.L868@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991213221101.A602@scorpion.crimea.ua> <10954.945132451@monkeys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 13, 1999, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Basic information about data thingies... e.g. unix file descriptors, UIDs, > GIDs, timeval thingies, semaphore identifiers, SysV shared memory identifiers, > and all info about all such basic data thingies should go into intro(2). File descriptors are not syscalls. -- |Chris Costello |Eunuchs, the non-gender-specific OS `------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 17:18: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from monkeys.com (i180.value.net [206.14.136.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7370E1521B for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:18:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: from monkeys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11296; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:17:51 -0800 (PST) To: chris@calldei.com Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:48:20 -0600. <19991213184820.K868@holly.calldei.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:17:51 -0800 Message-ID: <11294.945134271@monkeys.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19991213184820.K868@holly.calldei.com>, you wrote: >On Mon, Dec 13, 1999, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> I agree completely, but `man 4 fd' *should* yield a man page that talks >> about floppy disk device files... *not* one that talks about UNIX file >> descriptors. (You can just trash the one that talks about file descrip- >> tors as far as I'm concerned. If people want to know about those, they >> should go buy a general book about UNIX/C programming.) > > Or it could be the other way: You could trash the man page >for the disk driver. If people want to know about those, they >can buy a Unix book or read the source code. > > It works both ways. No, it doesn't. The tradition... on SySV at least... not sure about *BSD... is that data structures that are ``basic'' and/or common to a whole group of libc routines and/or kernel calls are documented in intro(2) or intro(3). Man pages for kernel functions are in Section 2, man pages for ordinary libc functions are in Section 3, and device files have man pages in Section 4. A UNIX file descriptor is not a device type _or_ a device file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 17:44:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A112314E76 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:44:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FMP00FG7JBDXL@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:40:26 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04417; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:42:57 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:42:56 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' In-reply-to: <11294.945134271@monkeys.com> To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991213194256.M868@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991213184820.K868@holly.calldei.com> <11294.945134271@monkeys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 13, 1999, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > A UNIX file descriptor is not a device type _or_ a device file. Section 4 is for kernel interfaces, not just for device types or device files. -- |Chris Costello |LISP: Lots of Idiotic Stupid Parenthesis `----------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 21:16:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from msi.ustu.ru (msi.ustu.ru [194.226.227.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F215115102 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:16:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@msi.ustu.ru) Received: from msi.ustu.ru (ustu-msi-02-w98 [192.168.101.2]) by msi.ustu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA58588 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:20:31 +0500 (ES) Message-ID: <3855D41A.6C51AE19@msi.ustu.ru> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:22:34 +0500 From: "Ñåðãåé Èâàíîâ" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: (áåç òåìû) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-announce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 21:17:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from msi.ustu.ru (msi.ustu.ru [194.226.227.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3AA1510A for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:17:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@msi.ustu.ru) Received: from msi.ustu.ru (ustu-msi-02-w98 [192.168.101.2]) by msi.ustu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA58593 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:21:31 +0500 (ES) Message-ID: <3855D457.F646A331@msi.ustu.ru> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:23:35 +0500 From: "Ñåðãåé Èâàíîâ" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: (áåç òåìû) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 22:12:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521C71527B for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:12:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.54.218]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5597; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:12:52 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA39926; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:08:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:08:01 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Darryl Okahata Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jade Message-ID: <19991214070801.B35707@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991213202514.H65618@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <199912132058.MAA03405@mina.sr.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199912132058.MAA03405@mina.sr.hp.com>; from darrylo@sr.hp.com on Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 12:58:25PM -0800 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991214 00:01], Darryl Okahata (darrylo@sr.hp.com) wrote: >Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > You are using the port, right? (Stock jade needs patches to work >with the latest gcc.) Aye. I am using the port. >[ Just FYI, jade built from the port on a Dec. 2 -current works fine, > even with shared libraries. ] Weird, mine is from December the 5th. Ah well. Just made world. Going to rebuild jade tonight. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 13 22:12:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6F51554E; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:12:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.54.218]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAB5597; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:12:52 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA39403; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:00:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:00:51 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jade Message-ID: <19991214070051.A35707@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991213202514.H65618@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <12849.945116497@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <12849.945116497@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 12:21:37PM -0800 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991214 00:01], Jordan K. Hubbard (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) wrote: >That's odd, I just built a few -current snapshot release with >docs enabled and it worked! Drat. Well, I will rebuild jade anyways. See if it works. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... 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------=_NextPart_000_0167_01BF464E.E4886280-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 6: 0: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FB814EB7 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA12714; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912141400.GAA12714@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14563; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: rfg@monkeys.com Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:29:52 +0000 On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 01:48:04AM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >If you want it fixed, did you have anything in mind? > > I thought that the solution I was proposing was abundantly clear in what > I wrote: > > >> `man 4 fd' should produce documentation relating to the `fd' (floppy > >> disk) device type. > > >As things > >stand, section 4 of the manuals seems to be the right place to put both > >the fd and fdc manual pages. > > I agree completely, but `man 4 fd' *should* yield a man page that talks > about floppy disk device files... *not* one that talks about UNIX file > descriptors. (You can just trash the one that talks about file descrip- > tors as far as I'm concerned. If people want to know about those, they > should go buy a general book about UNIX/C programming.) Yeah, but the problem is that different people have different ideas about what the default should be. /dev/fd is a directory of file descriptors, not a floppy disk device control node, so making fd(4) give information about the floppy disk device would then leave /dev/ and the manual pages inconsistent, which would be bad. Note, also, that manual pages like sa(4) or da(4) all stem from 'device' lines in the kernel config file, whereas the floppy disk entries stem from 'disk' lines in the kernel config file. Your best bet is probably to take this up with the -hackers mailing list, and see what the prevailing sentiment there is. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 7:33:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FD014FEF; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nbm@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA73983; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:33:11 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912141533.HAA73983@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nbm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nbm@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10085: NIS Setup Tutorial Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: NIS Setup Tutorial Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nbm Responsible-Changed-By: nbm Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 05:46:31 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 7:36: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mppsystems.com (dslmpp.pro-ns.net [208.210.148.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE064151C1 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:36:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpp@mppsystems.com) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mppsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05289; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:58:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mpp) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:58:36 -0600 From: Mike Pritchard To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: Alexey Zelkin , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Message-ID: <19991214055836.D5022@mppsystems.com> References: <19991213221101.A602@scorpion.crimea.ua> <10954.945132451@monkeys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <10954.945132451@monkeys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 04:47:31PM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > In message <19991213221101.A602@scorpion.crimea.ua>, you wrote: > >On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 01:50:02AM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > >> >> Typing "man 4 fd" produces a man page talking generally about UNIX > >> >> file descriptors. > >> >> > >> >> This is in conflict with the established convention that `man 4 foo' > >> >> produces documentation for the `foo' device type (and its driver). > >> >> > >> >> `man 4 fd' should produce documentation relating to the `fd' (floppy > >> >> disk) device type. (See `man 4 fdc') > >> >> > >> >> >How-To-Repeat: > >> >> > >> >> man 4 fd > >> >> > >> >> >Fix: > >> >> > >> >> Use `man 4 fdc' instead. > >> > > >> >Sorry, I don't understand. The situation is as you say it is. Are you > >> >documenting the fact, or do you want it fixed? > >> > >> I'd like to see it fixed. > > > >What exactly ? Rename fdc(4) -> fd(4) ? Ok. Any suggestions on new name for > >current fd(4) then ? > > Just throw that away. Or else take that material and put it into intro(2), > where it ought to be. > > Basic information about data thingies... e.g. unix file descriptors, UIDs, > GIDs, timeval thingies, semaphore identifiers, SysV shared memory identifiers, > and all info about all such basic data thingies should go into intro(2). But /dev/fd, which is what fd(4) describe, is different from the general description about file descriptors you would like to see in intro(2). fdc(4) matches what we use in the kernel config files, and that is appropriate. Unless we rename how we refernce floppy disks in the kernel, the name should stay fdc(4). -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mppsystems.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 7:37:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086B0151F1; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nbm@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA74533; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:37:51 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912141537.HAA74533@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jktheowl@bga.com, nbm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10098: Lack of overall guide for NIS setup Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Lack of overall guide for NIS setup State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nbm State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 07:34:44 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Similar to docs/10085. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 8:53:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EA81520C for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA78183 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:30:43 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:30:42 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Message-ID: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, Currently, the conversion path from DocBook to plain text consists of producing a monolithic HTML file from the DocBook version, and then using "lynx -dump" to produce plain text. Not a particularly elegant solution, and lynx has a few problems. Chief among them is lynx's inability to handle tables, which are used in a few places in the Handbook and other documents. I've been playing with w3m (ports/www/w3m), which is a lynx replacement. Apart from being somewhat nicer to use than lynx, and a quarter of the size (231,244 bytes, versus 862,648 bytes), w3m also handles tables (and even frames, which we don't use). So I'm considering the following trivial patch to share/mk/doc.docbook.mk, and an associated update to the textproc/docproj port dependencies. [...] ${DOC}.txt: ${DOC}.html - lynx -nolist -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} + w3m -S -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} [...] The "-S" parameter just smashes multiple blank lines to 1. Has anyone got any opinions on this one way or the other? In particular, I'd like to hear from the translation teams as to whether or not w3m's -dump option works correctly for text in their locale. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 8:57:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602E21525D; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA83460; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:57:47 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912141657.IAA83460@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13767: rstat_svc(8) manpage present, but /etc/rstat_svc nonexistent Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: rstat_svc(8) manpage present, but /etc/rstat_svc nonexistent State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 08:56:51 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: The man page still exists in the src/ tree, but it won't be installed any more. We'll probably rip it out later. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 8:58:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257281515A; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:58:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA83584; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:58:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:58:22 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912141658.IAA83584@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13957: Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. Hardware Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. Hardware State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 08:58:05 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed this ages ago, forgot to close the PR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 8:58:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9F1151EB; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA83724; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:58:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:58:53 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912141658.IAA83724@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13970: FreeBSD Newbie Newsletter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FreeBSD Newbie Newsletter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 08:58:31 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: In , Charles announced he had stopped sending out the Newbie Newsletter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 8:59:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AC51515A; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:59:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA83886; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:59:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:59:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912141659.IAA83886@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12988: [Patch] Fix more occurances of 'sd' in FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] Fix more occurances of 'sd' in FAQ State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 08:59:15 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patched up, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 9: 0:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFB914CC3 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA84017; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:00:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912141700.JAA84017@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13792; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: brett@lariat.org Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:02:58 +0000 On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 10:17:56AM -0700, brett@lariat.org wrote: > The commands "apropos securelevel" and "man -k securelevel" don't turn > up the documentation of this important setting, which is frequently > asked about. It's actually documentd in a nonintuitive place: the > man page for init(8). The user should be guided to the correct pages -- > init(8) and security(7) -- when investigating this setting. It's now documented in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, where there are a couple of knobs to tweak, and an explicit reference to init(8). I could also add an explicit MLINKS= init.8 securelevel.8 in the Makefile for init, so that "man 8 securelevel" worked. Thoughts? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 9: 2:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3741B154E5; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:01:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA84297; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:01:51 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912141701.JAA84297@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14248: codify proposed style Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: codify proposed style State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 09:01:01 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, modulo a couple of minor changes (CDATA -> RCDATA) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 9:35:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (CBL-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net [209.178.114.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5277C15458; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Received: from ad1440.net (uta003594.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.211.36]) by cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA23080; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:35:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Message-ID: <38568037.4305517@ad1440.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:36:55 -0800 From: Sean Kelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Has anyone got any opinions on this one way or the other? Lighter weight tools are always welcome, particularly if they do a better job than their beefier counterparts. But I'm a bit surprised that no one's gotten around to writing up some DSSSL specs that go right to plain text (perhaps with trivial postprocessing). Know of any? --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 10:22:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (adsl-63-192-209-55.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.209.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158F514A2F; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:22:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by luna.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05242; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:22:39 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: nbm@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, unfurl@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10085: NIS Setup Tutorial Message-ID: <19991214102239.B5071@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <199912141533.HAA73983@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.1i In-Reply-To: <199912141533.HAA73983@freefall.freebsd.org>; from nbm@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 07:33:11AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 at 07:33:11 -0800, nbm@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Synopsis: NIS Setup Tutorial > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nbm > Responsible-Changed-By: nbm > Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 05:46:31 PST 1999 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > I'll take this. Bill Swingle is writing an NIS section of the handbook and should have it done RSN. It's alot more up-to-date than the one in the PR (I meant to close that a while ago but forgot). I'll fire off a more detailed message of things that are already being worked on once I get into the office. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@cdrom.com - - phone: 925.691.2800 x3814 - fax: 925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - freebsdzine - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 13: 4:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5915D152C0; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:04:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by luna.cdrom.com (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id dBEL4iP01681; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:04:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:04:42 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: nbm@FreeBSD.org, unfurl@FreeBSD.org Subject: rewriting the handbook Message-ID: <19991214130441.A56926@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <199912141533.HAA73983@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991214102239.B5071@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.1i In-Reply-To: <19991214102239.B5071@luna.cdrom.com>; from jim@luna.cdrom.com on Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 10:22:39AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 at 10:22:39 -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 at 07:33:11 -0800, nbm@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > > Synopsis: NIS Setup Tutorial > > > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nbm > > Responsible-Changed-By: nbm > > Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Dec 14 05:46:31 PST 1999 > > Responsible-Changed-Why: > > I'll take this. > > Bill Swingle is writing an NIS section of the handbook and should have > it done RSN. It's alot more up-to-date than the one in the PR (I meant > to close that a while ago but forgot). > > I'll fire off a more detailed message of things that are already being > worked on once I get into the office. Ok, to elaborate a little more on this.. Here's what is currently being worked on or has been completed as of today. The goal here is to get the handbook rewritten/updated enough to be published as a book in the 1st quarter of 2000. The initial goal is to try to get stuff organized like the rewritten ports chapter with three or four parts.. 1) Synopsis 2) How to use whatever it is the chapter is about 3) Troubleshooting 4) Advanced Topics That'll make it much easier for people to find what they're looking for instead of having to wade through a bunch of other non-relevant stuff like they do now. Here's what's being worked on so far, at least as far as I know. If anyone wants to step up and volunteer some time and effort to write a missing section or update and old and crufty one, it would be appreciated. o Chapter 4 - Ports collection Total rewrite with the exception of the 'making a port' bits since those were kept up-to-date. I committed it last week so feel free to review/bash/change stuff. o Chapter 16 - Advanced Networking Write a YP/NIS section from scratch. This is what Bill is working on. Please keep him in the loop on any messages (he's Cc'd) so he knows what's going on and I don't have to yell it across the office to him :-) o Chapter 17 - Email This is what I'm currently working on rewriting and hopefully will have it done today or tonight. I don't have much more to do, so it definetly won't be long until it's finished. I'll be committing this once I test the build with it finished and have a few people read it over to pick up any glaring mistakes. After I'm finished with Chapter 17, I'll be starting the rewrite of Chapter 2 - Installing FreeBSD. As you can tell from reading the above, there's no real pattern to what's being done first, etc., because it doesn't really matter as long as it gets done. What it comes to is, if you're interested in helping, pick something and write it.. just be sure to let me know so I can add it to the list and give a poke every now and again to see how things are going. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@cdrom.com - - phone: 925.691.2800 x3814 - fax: 925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - freebsdzine - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 13:15:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A70F01516B for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unfurl@magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 57390 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Dec 1999 21:15:31 -0000 Date: 14 Dec 1999 13:15:31 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:15:30 -0800 From: Bill Swingle To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rewriting the handbook Message-ID: <19991214131530.B55720@dub.net> References: <199912141533.HAA73983@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991214102239.B5071@luna.cdrom.com> <19991214130441.A56926@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991214130441.A56926@luna.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 01:04:42PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > o Chapter 16 - Advanced Networking > > Write a YP/NIS section from scratch. This is what Bill is working > on. Please keep him in the loop on any messages (he's Cc'd) so he > knows what's going on and I don't have to yell it across the office > to him :-) I'm actually on the -doc list, unbeknownst to jim. Try not to CC me if ya don't need to :) -Bill -- -=| --- B i l l S w i n g l e --- http://www.dub.net/ -=| unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| Different all twisty a of in maze are you, passages little To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 14:16:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (ccssu.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A1114D5C; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:16:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.0) with UUCP id AAA09959; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:08:18 +0200 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id XAA15932; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:00:26 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:00:26 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Message-ID: <19991214230026.C15720@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <199912141700.JAA84017@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199912141700.JAA84017@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 09:00:07AM -0800, Nik Clayton wrote: > It's now documented in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, where there are a couple of > knobs to tweak, and an explicit reference to init(8). > > I could also add an explicit > > MLINKS= init.8 securelevel.8 > > in the Makefile for init, so that "man 8 securelevel" worked. Don't forget to add ".Nm securelevel" string also. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 14:16:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (ccssu.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC151533D; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.0) with UUCP id AAA09958; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:08:14 +0200 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id WAA15865; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:57:05 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:57:04 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Message-ID: <19991214225704.B15720@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 03:30:42PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > I've been playing with w3m (ports/www/w3m), which is a lynx replacement. > Apart from being somewhat nicer to use than lynx, and a quarter of the > size (231,244 bytes, versus 862,648 bytes), w3m also handles tables (and > even frames, which we don't use). Good points, but what about multiple encodings support ? I think it's big point for non-english users/developers (at least for me) > [...] > ${DOC}.txt: ${DOC}.html > - lynx -nolist -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} > + w3m -S -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} > [...] BROWSER=w3m BROWSEROPTS=-S -dump ${DOC}.txt: ${DOC}.html ${BROWSER} ${BROWSEROPTS} ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} Comments ? -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 14:47:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A876015355; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:47:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FMR00GRF5W8S7@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:45:44 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07618; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:48:10 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:48:10 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? In-reply-to: <38568037.4305517@ad1440.net> To: Sean Kelly Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991214164810.T868@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <38568037.4305517@ad1440.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Sean Kelly wrote: > But I'm a bit surprised that no one's gotten around to > writing up some DSSSL specs that go right to plain text > (perhaps with trivial postprocessing). Know of any? Because the work and 'postprocessing' involved would be a lot like hypertext, only without links. -- |Chris Costello |Every program is a part of some other program, and rarely fits. `--------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 15:17:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from satsuma.mail.easynet.net (satsuma.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D189E152E5 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:17:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from cream.org (boothman.easynet.co.uk [194.154.100.117]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDC87B0A9 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:17:36 +0000 (GMT) Content-Length: 809 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:19:13 -0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Boothman To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Automatic Documentation Index Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Right then folks. Those with a passing interest can cast their eyes over http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~andrew/docindex/ Especially docindex/README which is a text file (with ?'s where i'm not sure of details) that should explain the index to sysadmins. And, docindex/instdocs.html for an example output. Does anyone have any other thoughts/suggestions before I finally take it to -ports? Hrmph. If i'd got my finger out earlier, this could maybe have been in 3.4-R. It's too late now. Anyone who made suggestions that I havn't taken up on could e-mail me, because I accidentally cleared out some e-mails that I was keeping, and so I may have lost it. Thanks everyone. --- Andrew Boothman FreeBSD UK User Group http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/~andrew/ http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 17: 0: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A75014EC9 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA34137; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912150100.RAA34137@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Reply-To: Brett Glass Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13792; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brett Glass To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:53:04 -0700 The link would help! And maybe a crossreference to "security" (whichever chapter it's in; I forget offhand). --Brett At 09:02 AM 12/14/1999 , Nik Clayton wrote: >On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 10:17:56AM -0700, brett@lariat.org wrote: > > The commands "apropos securelevel" and "man -k securelevel" don't turn > > up the documentation of this important setting, which is frequently > > asked about. It's actually documentd in a nonintuitive place: the > > man page for init(8). The user should be guided to the correct pages -- > > init(8) and security(7) -- when investigating this setting. > >It's now documented in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, where there are a couple of >knobs to tweak, and an explicit reference to init(8). > >I could also add an explicit > > MLINKS= init.8 securelevel.8 > >in the Makefile for init, so that "man 8 securelevel" worked. > >Thoughts? > >N >-- > If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping > on a penguin's face forever. > --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 17:28:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A161525E for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:28:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (ppp1-pa2.neomedia.it [195.103.207.113]) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA12578 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:28:46 +0100 (CET) From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:29:24 GMT Message-ID: <19991215.1292400@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Information on Italian Documentation Project To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Supercalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear readers, I am Italian and I live in Sicily. I have been reading some FreeBSD documentation -- FAQ, Handbook, Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD" 2nd edition, tutorials etc. I would like to learn more about the Italian FreeBSD Documentation Project. In particular, I would like to give my own little contribution to it, e.g. by translating a few documents into Italian, to begin with. I sent a letter to maw58@hotmail.com, as per the instructions in the 3.3. manual and in the FreeBSD site, but I received no answer. Could you please let me know more about this project, the responsible for it etc. ? I thank you very much in advance. Truly yours Salvo Bartolotta N.B. myjokingdomain =3D=3D> neomedia.it to e-mail to me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 17:52:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F307F152E5; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:52:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FMR00KTBEHH84@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:51:17 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08376; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:53:42 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:53:41 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" In-reply-to: <19991214230026.C15720@scorpion.crimea.ua> To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991214195341.B868@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <199912141700.JAA84017@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991214230026.C15720@scorpion.crimea.ua> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > Don't forget to add ".Nm securelevel" string also. Why? Take a look at ``man rdump'' and compare with ``man dump'' for just one example. It's not like ``securelevel'' is a command here. -- |Chris Costello |Meets quality standards: Compiles without errors. `-------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 19:35:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD88815369; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AD5801C4A; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B73381B; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:35:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:35:06 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Jim Mock Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, nbm@FreeBSD.org, unfurl@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: rewriting the handbook In-Reply-To: <19991214130441.A56926@luna.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Jim Mock wrote: > Here's what's being worked on so far, at least as far as I know. If > anyone wants to step up and volunteer some time and effort to write a > missing section or update and old and crufty one, it would be > appreciated. I realize that you're doing this now, but WC would do well to let the doc mailing list know when they're doing things like this so work isn't duplicated. Not a "raging anger" thing, just would be nice. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 19:58:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (adsl-63-192-209-55.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.209.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A065714F9E; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:58:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by luna.cdrom.com (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id dBF3wYa12605; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:58:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:58:34 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Bill Fumerola Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, nbm@FreeBSD.org, unfurl@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: rewriting the handbook Message-ID: <19991214195834.B955@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <19991214130441.A56926@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.1i In-Reply-To: ; from billf@chc-chimes.com on Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 10:35:06PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 at 22:35:06 -0500, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Jim Mock wrote: > > Here's what's being worked on so far, at least as far as I know. If > > anyone wants to step up and volunteer some time and effort to write a > > missing section or update and old and crufty one, it would be > > appreciated. > > I realize that you're doing this now, but WC would do well to let the > doc mailing list know when they're doing things like this so work > isn't duplicated. I agree, and I take the blame for not being more vocal about it. That was sort of the point to that message.. what I'm thinking of doing is a weekly update message to -doc with stuff that's being worked on, who's doing it (if anyone volunteers, etc.). That should help keep everyone informed and make it easier for others to see where we're at and throw in their two cents. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@cdrom.com - - phone: 925.691.2800 x3814 - fax: 925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - freebsdzine - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 14 22:35:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498D614C3F; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04021; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:35:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA02102; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:35:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199912131813.KAA06598@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:35:20 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13116: typo in ms(7) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org nik@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: typo in ms(7) ... > The patch is trivial, but this is in contrib/, which I'm wary of touching. > If JDP OK's it, assign it back to me, and I'll commit. It's my understanding that we don't fix typos and other small things in /src/contrib. It's better to (a) make sure it's not already fixed in a newer version of groff, and then (b) report the bug to the groff folks. You can check with Peter if you want a second opinion, though. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 0:18:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (ccssu.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEC015475; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.0) with UUCP id KAA23917; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:13:54 +0200 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id JAA09072; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:30:38 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:30:38 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Chris Costello Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Message-ID: <19991215093038.A7697@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <199912141700.JAA84017@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991214230026.C15720@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991214195341.B868@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19991214195341.B868@holly.calldei.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 07:53:41PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > > Don't forget to add ".Nm securelevel" string also. > > Why? Take a look at ``man rdump'' and compare with ``man Ok, but original request was `lack of the documentation on securelevel'. He tried to use apropos(1) to get some info on securelevel, but/and filled PR :) BTW, try `apropos rdump'... IMHO its output would mean that we have no such tool > dump'' for just one example. It's not like ``securelevel'' is a > command here. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 0:26:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (ccssu.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DEA152C9; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:26:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.0) with UUCP id KAA23930; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:14:10 +0200 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id JAA09123; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:43:23 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:43:23 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: John Polstra Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/13116: typo in ms(7) Message-ID: <19991215094323.B7697@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <199912131813.KAA06598@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 10:35:20PM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > nik@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > Synopsis: typo in ms(7) > ... > > The patch is trivial, but this is in contrib/, which I'm wary of touching. > > If JDP OK's it, assign it back to me, and I'll commit. > > It's my understanding that we don't fix typos and other small things > in /src/contrib. It's better to (a) make sure it's not already fixed > in a newer version of groff, I checked it few days ago. Seems that during last 8 months maintainer just made few changes in Makefiles and integrated latest autoconf. I not sure that we really need to think about intergration of groff's new version until they integrate all FreeBSD's changes to distribution (yes, we have huge amount of local patches :-) ) > and then (b) report the bug to the groff > folks. You can check with Peter if you want a second opinion, though. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 1:10:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F02154C1 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA77606; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912150910.BAA77606@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Neil Blakey-Milner Subject: Re: docs/14595: The ipfw `log' suboption is not documented Reply-To: Neil Blakey-Milner Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14595; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/14595: The ipfw `log' suboption is not documented Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:02:33 +0200 Hi, Looking at the man page, the 'log' option is definitely documented: ipfw [-q] add [number] [prob match_probability] action [log [logamount number]] proto from src to dst [via name | ipno] [options] and: If the kernel was compiled with IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE, then when a packet matches a rule with the log keyword a message will be printed on the console. If the kernel was compiled with the IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT op- tion, then by default logging will cease after the number of packets specified by the option are received for that particular chain entry. Should I close this PR? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 1:32:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7FA15485; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nbm@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA79171; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 01:32:24 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912150932.BAA79171@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rfg@monkeys.com, nbm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nbm@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14595: The ipfw `log' suboption is not documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: The ipfw `log' suboption is not documented State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: nbm State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 01:23:55 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: The option does seem to be documented, awaiting confirmation from originator. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nbm Responsible-Changed-By: nbm Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 01:23:55 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll wait on this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 2:30:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from yta.attmil.ne.jp (yta.attmil.ne.jp [165.76.24.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3BA14C3F for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:30:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tiberius@yta.attmil.ne.jp) Received: from yta.attmil.ne.jp (36.gate1.yokota.attmil.ne.jp [165.76.24.115]) by yta.attmil.ne.jp (8.8.8+Spin/3.6W-CONS(11/09/99)) id TAA27220; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:29:46 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38576DB1.94DB59AE@yta.attmil.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:30:09 +0900 From: Robert Hugh Force II X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Development Projects Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1B4BE5535255126D4392FF5C" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1B4BE5535255126D4392FF5C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings and Felicitations, I am looking for any information I can find on cluster/parallel computing using FreeBSD. 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Documentation

  • FreeBSD Documentation Project The FreeBSD Documentation Project is a group of people who maintain and write the documentation (such as the Handbook and FAQ) for the FreeBSD project. If you want to help with the documentation project, subscribe to the freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG mailing list and partcipate.
  • FreeBSD Resources for Newbies is a list of resources to help those new to FreeBSD and UNIX in general. There is also a freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG mailing list.
  • Retail Outlets for FreeBSD is a list of worldwide retailers where FreeBSD can be purchased.
  • FreeBSD Security How-To FreeBSD is a very secure operating system. Since source code is freely available, the OS is constantly going through the review and audit. While FreeBSD comes very secure OOB (Out-Of-Box), there are many features that can make it more secure for those of you who are "paranoid". This How-To will go over some steps which will help you increase overall security of your machine.
  • RELEASE/SNAP finder for FreeBSD FTP servers. A resource that would allow anyone to find a FTP server that contains particular releases and SNAP of FreeBSD. The database is updated daily at 3am Melbourne time (10 hours ahead of UTC).
  • The FreeBSD Diary is a collection of how-to entries aimed at UNIX novices. The aim is to provide a set of step-by-step guides to installing and configuring various ports.
  • The FreeBSD User Guide This is a little document on how to start with the FreeBSD Operating System (OS), a Unix variant. It's made for people who never used a Unix OS. FreeBSD is a little hard to learn, so don't expect to be happy the first time you meet him alone. The main reason is that it's Command Line Interface (CLI), like MS-DOS.
  • A Comprehensive Guide to FreeBSD - an attempt at a more readable, "book-like" tutorial explaining the FreeBSD Operating System. Intended for people new to both FreeBSD and UNIX. Currently a work in progress.
  • FreeBSD How-To's for the Lazy and Hopeless is another somewhat more light-hearted attempt to provide more readable "how-to" style information on setting up and configuring FreeBSD.
  • The Linux+FreeBSD mini-HOWTO - this document describes how to use Linux and FreeBSD on the same system. It introduces FreeBSD and discusses how the two operating systems can cooperate, e.g. by sharing swap space.
  • Install Preview for FreeBSD 2.2.7 This is a guide illustrating the FreeBSD install program for those new to unix and/or FreeBSD.
  • The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project
  • The FreeBSD Cook Book Ok, you got FreeBSD installed, now what? Here are some suggested solutions to common problems you can implement with the knowledge you now have. This document is styled after the electronics cook books with some recipes for some common types of installations. Each "recipe" has some recommended minimum hardware, specific software to use, and most important the configuration information required to get the system running correctly.

Advocacy

  • The FreeBSD Advocacy Project The FreeBSD Advocacy Project is the group of people responsible for the promotion of FreeBSD. Our main goal is to develop a competent marketing image for the FreeBSD Project, and increase the overall user-base of FreeBSD.
  • FreeBSD Rocks is an initiative designed to provide the FreeBSD community with the latest FreeBSD news, software and resources. All areas include search facilities, making keyword searching of historical posts a breeze. The pages are updated daily and everyone is invited to sign up an post an article. If it happened today, you'll see it on FreeBSDRocks.
  • FreeBSD vs. Linux: a bunch of comparisons between FreeBSD and Linux, which is another publically-distributed free UNIX-like OS for PC's.
  • Daemon News is an electronic publication about the BSD operating system in general. It's aim is to be a resource for people in the FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD communities.
  • The FreeBSD Counter Page page is the start of a project which will attempt to determine the world-wide installed base of FreeBSD users. The FreeBSD development community currently has only the vaguest idea as to how large our user base is, and this makes it all the more difficult to persuade hardware and software vendors to take it seriously.
  • BSD CD Giveaway List If somebody has a CD to give away (recipient pays for shipping) or to lend locally, they can put their email address on the list. Hardware and literature can also be given away. We encourage people to donate CDs to local libraries and put them on the list as well.
  • The Free Software Bazaar is a market place designed to increase the amount of free software, to support free software developers, and to more accurately measure the demand for free software.
  • FreeBSD ezine The FreeBSD 'zine is a monthly collection of easy to read (we hope) articles written by FreeBSD users and administrators just like you.
  • The FreeBSD WebBoard is a place where the FreeBSD community can help eachother out. They can leave postings and have them answered while at the same time, other FreeBSD users can view these problems and learn from them. Keep in mind that this WebBoard is very new and things are currently being added. If there are few or no messages posted, feel free to still post as it may still get answered.
  • The Open Directory Project's goal is to produce the most comprehensive directory of the web, by relying on a vast army of volunteer editors.
  • FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows NT A comparison between the three operating systems which includes reliability, performance, Y2K issues, support, cost of ownership, and more.
  • The Internet Operating System Counter is a survey about operating system usage on the Internet. Host addresses are collected and queried for their operating system using queso.
  • The BSD cellphone. FreeBSD daemon covers for cellphones.
  • Welcome to FreeBSDCon '99, the first annual FreeBSD Conference and Expo! This will be the number one event this year for FreeBSD users and developers. We will have it all: tutorials, demos, workshops, panels, presentations, discussions and exhibits. Many FreeBSD developers and vendors will be here. Meet most (possibly all) of the core team. Meet people using FreeBSD for several of the world's largest internet sites. Talk to researchers and application developers. Browse the products at the FreeBSD Mall. Try out the "hands-on" demos of the latest FreeBSD applications.

Applications

  • Java on FreeBSD This contains information on where to obtain the latest JDK for FreeBSD, how to install and run it, and a list of java software that you may find interesting. Please note that the JDK is unsupported on versions of FreeBSD prior to 2.2.
  • FreeBSD Mozilla Group seeks to provide a focus for work on Netscape's Mozilla project for the FreeBSD world by providing centralized resources such as a CVS repository, a mailing list, and other tools for development.
  • MultiMedia A resource of links to information and software pertaining to the world of multimedia in the UNIX world.
  • FreeBSD Ports Collection The FreeBSD Ports Collection provides an easy way to compile and install a wide range of applications with a minimum amount of effort. A list of current ports is available along with a search mechanism to see if a specific application exists in the Ports Collection.
  • FreeBSD Ports distfiles survey is a list which checks the Ports Collection for unfetchable distfiles and provides a summary for each port.

Networking

File system

  • Arla is a free AFS client implementation. The main goal is to make a fully functional client with all capabilities of normal AFS. Other planned and implemented things are all the normal management tools and a server.
  • Coda is a distributed file system. Among its features are disconnected operation, good security model, server replication and persistent client side caching.
  • DEVFS
  • Mode locking
  • Make the namei interface reflexive
  • NFS client and server locking
  • NTFS Driver for FreeBSD This driver allows Windows NTFS partitions to be mounted by FreeBSD. Currently NTFS partitions can only be accessed in read-only mode, but plans are in the works for read/write access.
  • Rio (RAM I/O): The Rio project is investigating how to implement and use reliable memory. Reliable memory enables dramatic improvements in reliability and performance.
  • Soft Updates: A Solution to the Metadata Update Problem in File Systems
  • TCFS is a Transparent Cryptographic File System that is a suitable solution to the problem of privacy for distributed file system. By a deeper integration between the encryption service and the file system, it results in a complete trasparency of use to the user applications. Files are stored in encrypted form and are decrypted before they are read. The encryption/decryption process takes place on the client machine and thus the encryption/decryption key never travels on the network.
  • Tertiary Disk is a storage system architecture to create large disk storage systems that avoid the disadvantages of custom built disk arrays. The name comes from twin goals: to have the cost per megabyte and capacity of tape libraries and the performance of magnetic disks. We use commodity, off the shelf components to develop a scalable, low cost, terabyte capacity disk system. Our target is to build a complete storage system with about 30-50% extra to the cost of the raw disk. Tertiary Disk uses PCs connected by a switched network to host a large number of disks. Our prototype consists of 20 200MHz PC PCs, which host 370 8GB disks. The PCs are connected through a 100Mbps Ethernet switch.
  • Vinum is a logical volume manager modeled after the VERITAS volume manager. However, it is not a clone of Veritas, and attempts to solve a number of problems more elegantly than Veritas. It also offers features that Veritas does not have.
  • The PathConvert project is to develop utilities which make conversion between absolute path name and relative path name. It brings benefits mainly to the users of NFS and WWW.
  • V9FS: Memory-based file system for FreeBSD It will (we hope) become the basis of private name spaces for FreeBSD in the future. It provides a file system that uses only memory for directories, inodes, and data. This is not at all like mfs, since mfs uses memory for "disk blocks", and essentially acts as the device for UFS. V9FS in contrast is a first-class citizen and is a full mountable file system. No writeup yet.

Kernel, security

  • Drawbridge is a firewall package that was developed at Texax A&M University and was designed with a large academic environment in mind. It's greatest strength is the ability to perform high speed packet filtering for a larget number of individual hosts within an intranetwork.
  • FreeBSD Hardening Project The goal of the FreeBSD Hardening Project is to develop a set of modifications to the base FreeBSD system that, when applied, allow for a far more secure environment. Services would, in general, be disabled until specifically enabled, much like modern firewall policies.
  • Lottery Scheduling Kernel: This work is based on Waldspurger's lottery scheduling algorithm, which implements proportional-share resource management. The primary advantages are that users have strict control over the relative execution rates of their processes, and users are load-insulated from each other, preventing one user from dominating the CPU.
  • Metacomputing
  • DHCP configuration How to set up DHCP on FreeBSD systems for use with cable modems, etc.
  • Handling more than 32 signals
  • Working LDAP for FreeBSD
  • Symmetric MultiProcessor Support Documentation and other information about taking advantage of multiple processors under FreeBSD.
  • A validation suite for testing for kernel memory leaks
  • SPY allows you to monitor and/or selectively block syscalls on your system. It could be used either as a safety monitoring device, policy enforcement, or debugging tool.

Device drivers

  • BSD Driver Database Just because you don't have the time to write the driver yourself doesn't mean you can't still help. The idea behind the BSD Driver Database is to help individuals with hardware that needs supporting get in touch with driver developers with the knowledge to write the support for the hardware. This is a list of drivers currently under development that could stand to gain from time or resources you may have to offer.
  • A New Device Framework for FreeBSD
  • BSD ATM: implementation of ATM internetworking under 4.4BSD: New computer applications in areas such as multimedia, imaging, and distributed computing demand high levels of performance from computer networks. ATM-based networking solutions provide one possible alternative to meeting these performance needs. However, the complexity of ATM over traditional networks such as Ethernet has proven to be a barrier to its being used. In this paper we present the design and implementation of BSD ATM, a light-weight and efficient ATM software layer for BSD-based operating systems that requires minimal changes to the operating system. BSD ATM can be used both for IP-based networking traffic and for ``native'' ATM traffic.
  • High-precision timekeeping with FreeBSD How to create a NTP stratum 1 server with state of the art performance.
  • Home Automation with FreeBSD such as appliance controllers, infra-red controllers, automated telephone systems, and more.
  • i4b: ISDN for FreeBSD ISDN4BSD (or i4b for short) is a package for interfacing a computer running FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, or BSD/OS to ISDN. The only ISDN protocol currently supported is the BRI protocol. ISDN4BSD allows you to make IP network connections by using either IP packets sent in raw HDLC frames on the B channel, or by using sychronous PPP. For telephony, ISDN4BSD can answer incoming phone calls like an answering machine.
  • CAM: New SCSI layer for FreeBSD Details about what the new CAM SCSI layer is, and how it works.
  • The FreeBSD Token-Ring Project Information, files, patches, and documentation about adding Token Ring support to FreeBSD.
  • FreeBSD USB driver development The NetBSD USB stack has been ported to FreeBSD. Together with them we have started developing the drivers for many devices using the USB bus. Have a look on the webpage if you want to join the effort or you want to have a look on the devices that are being supported.
  • Soundblaster Awe64 configuration under FreeBSD 3.1
  • A mailing list exists for further development of Scott Mitchell's Xircom CEM ethernet driver. Send subscribe freebsd-xircom to majordomo@lovett.com to join.

Architecture

  • Porting FreeBSD to Alpha systems Contains information on the FreeBSD Alpha port such as the status, mailing list information, the hardware used, and other Alpha projects.
  • Porting FreeBSD to Sparc systems Contains information on the FreeBSD Sparc port including a FAQ, some early boot code, information on Sparc processors and motherboards, and other Sparc projects.
  • The SysVR4 Emulation page describes an SysVR4 emulator for FreeBSD. It is currently capable of running (or walking, in some cases) a wide-ish variety of SysV executabls taken from Solaris/x86 2.5.1 and 2.6 systems. I have reason to believe that it will also run SCO UnixWare and SCO OpenServer binaries.
  • The OSKit The OSKit is a framework and a set of 31 component libraries oriented to operating systems, together with extensive documentation. By providing in a modular way not only most of the infrastructure "grunge" needed by an OS, but also many higher-level components, the OSKit's goal is to lower the barrier to entry to OS R&D and to lower its costs. The OSKit makes it vastly easier to create a new OS, port an existing OS to the x86 (or in the future, to other architectures supported by the OSkit), or enhance an OS to support a wider range of devices, file system formats, executable formats, or network services. The OSKit also works well for constructing OS-related programs, such as boot loaders or OS-level servers atop a microkernel.
  • Small and embedded FreeBSD (PicoBSD) PicoBSD is a one floppy version of FreeBSD which in its different variations allows you to have secure dial-up access, small diskless router, or even a dial-in server. All of this on only one standard 1.44MB floppy disk. It runs on a minimum 386SX CPU with 8MB of RAM, and no hard drive is required!
  • Linux Threads under FreeBSD Create a port of Linux Threads that can be compiled and used as a kernel threads implementation under FreeBSD. Allow native Linux applications linked against the Linux Threads pthread library (either static or shared libs) to run under FreeBSD in Linux "emulation" mode.
  • BUDS: BSD Unix Distributed Simple-ly Provide a general purpose clustering system for further development into parallel-multi-processors. This system is intended to be generic in nature, but powerful. It is not intend for computensively intensive applications, nor is it intended for highly complex interdependent applications.

Misc

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--------------1B4BE5535255126D4392FF5C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 2:39:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E1014C3F; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nbm@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA85684; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:39:34 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912151039.CAA85684@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org, nbm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15004: isdnd.rc.5 typo (changing -> charging, and etc.) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: isdnd.rc.5 typo (changing -> charging, and etc.) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nbm State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 02:13:16 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: joe's update to version 0.83 of I4B in revision 1.1.2.3 of isdnd.rc.5 fixed these typos. Your effort is appreciated, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 4: 0: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5EA153DC for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA92803; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id D00921532B; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 03:55:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19991215115532.D00921532B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 03:55:32 -0800 (PST) From: dan@freebsddiary.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/15491: Porting applications tutorial is missing Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15491 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Porting applications tutorial is missing >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 15 04:00:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Langille >Release: 3.3-stable >Organization: The FreeBSD Diary >Environment: >Description: at http://www.freebsd.org/ports/, 4th paragraph, the link "Porting applications" to http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/porting.html is broken. It gives a Document not found >How-To-Repeat: see above >Fix: sorry, no fix from me. The file seems to be totally gone. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 5:36: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mppsystems.com (dslmpp.pro-ns.net [208.210.148.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973A215396; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpp@mppsystems.com) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mppsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10533; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:01:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mpp) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:01:35 -0600 From: Mike Pritchard To: John Polstra Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/13116: typo in ms(7) Message-ID: <19991215070135.C10327@mppsystems.com> References: <199912131813.KAA06598@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 10:35:20PM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > nik@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > Synopsis: typo in ms(7) > ... > > The patch is trivial, but this is in contrib/, which I'm wary of touching. > > If JDP OK's it, assign it back to me, and I'll commit. > > It's my understanding that we don't fix typos and other small things > in /src/contrib. It's better to (a) make sure it's not already fixed > in a newer version of groff, and then (b) report the bug to the groff > folks. You can check with Peter if you want a second opinion, though. We've fixed typos in contrib man pages before. Then we also try to get the person who pointed out the typo to ask the original developer to address the change. Style changes, we usually do not commit and also ask the originator to contact the original developer to make the requested change. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mppsystems.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 5:36:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mppsystems.com (dslmpp.pro-ns.net [208.210.148.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05156151CD; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 05:36:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpp@mppsystems.com) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mppsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA10454; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:53:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mpp) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:53:44 -0600 From: Mike Pritchard To: Chris Costello Cc: Alexey Zelkin , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Message-ID: <19991215065344.B10327@mppsystems.com> References: <199912141700.JAA84017@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991214230026.C15720@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991214195341.B868@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991214195341.B868@holly.calldei.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 07:53:41PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > > Don't forget to add ".Nm securelevel" string also. > > Why? Take a look at ``man rdump'' and compare with ``man > dump'' for just one example. It's not like ``securelevel'' is a > command here. If it is MLINKED then it should also be have a .Nm attached to it, too. Probably what we need is a security(7) man page the describes securelevel along with a bunch of other stuff. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mppsystems.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 6: 3:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667E1502D; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nbm@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA07662; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:03:39 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912151403.GAA07662@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gram@cequrux.com, nbm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14320: tzfile manual page has omissions and errors Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: tzfile manual page has omissions and errors State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nbm State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 06:01:00 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: PR docs/14035 covers the same issues, and has a possible patch to deal with them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 8:38:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web1607.mail.yahoo.com (web1607.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 032B21503B for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:38:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from antjock@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 14898 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 1999 16:38:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19991215163822.14897.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.244.214.130] by web1607.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:38:22 PST Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:38:22 -0800 (PST) From: Anthony Johnston Reply-To: ant@ubergeeks.com Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 8:40: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F11D15241; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06957; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:39:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA02904; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19991215070135.C10327@mppsystems.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:39:58 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Mike Pritchard Subject: Re: docs/13116: typo in ms(7) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Pritchard wrote: > > We've fixed typos in contrib man pages before. Then we also try to > get the person who pointed out the typo to ask the original developer > to address the change. Yes, but it's much better to get the original developer to fix it first, and then import the new version. When you make a local change to a file that's on the vendor branch, you take it off the vendor branch forever. That means one additional conflict every time a new version is imported thereafter. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 11:28:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6A114EC1; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:28:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA93013; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:28:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:28:56 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912151928.LAA93013@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dan@freebsddiary.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15491: Porting applications tutorial is missing Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Porting applications tutorial is missing State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 11:28:32 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 13:59:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from serio.al.rim.or.jp (serio.al.rim.or.jp [202.247.191.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE5C155EA; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from mail-relay.rim.or.jp by serio.al.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W/HMX-12) with ESMTP id GAA12928; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:59:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp524.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.174]) by mail-relay.rim.or.jp (3.7W/HMX-12) id GAA01500; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:59:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id GAA71923; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:59:40 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:59:39 +0900 Message-ID: <14424.3915.863570.71255S@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? In-Reply-To: In your message of "Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:30:42 +0000" <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Nik Clayton > [...] > ${DOC}.txt: ${DOC}.html > - lynx -nolist -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} > + w3m -S -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} > [...] > Has anyone got any opinions on this one way or the other? In particular, > I'd like to hear from the translation teams as to whether or not w3m's > -dump option works correctly for text in their locale. OK. I'll test this but it seems better than lynx for Japanese (if it compiled with JAPANESE option). But I don't know how w3m handles other laguages. If this change causes problem, I think Alexey's solution is better. Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 17:53:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E76D15575; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:53:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA79888; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:53:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:53:29 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912160153.RAA79888@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Thierry.Besancon@lps.ens.fr, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14112: calls in ddb doc don't exist any longer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: calls in ddb doc don't exist any longer State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 17:52:51 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Updated the section, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 17:53:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB13115451 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28315; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:07:15 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:07:15 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: chris@calldei.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/14563: Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' Message-ID: <19991216010715.F66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991213184820.K868@holly.calldei.com> <11294.945134271@monkeys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <11294.945134271@monkeys.com>; from Ronald F. Guilmette on Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 05:17:51PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 05:17:51PM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > The tradition... on SySV at least... not sure about *BSD... is that data > structures that are ``basic'' and/or common to a whole group of libc > routines and/or kernel calls are documented in intro(2) or intro(3). > Man pages for kernel functions are in Section 2, man pages for ordinary > libc functions are in Section 3, and device files have man pages in > Section 4. > > A UNIX file descriptor is not a device type _or_ a device file. Yeah, but fd(4) isn't talking about file descriptors in general, but is talking about the specific case of accessing file descriptors through their entry in the /dev/fd/ directory. As such, the text of fd(4) is appropriately placed. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 17:54:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320B51574E; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30401; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:24:10 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:24:10 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Message-ID: <19991216012410.G66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14424.3915.863570.71255S@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14424.3915.863570.71255S@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 06:59:39AM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 06:59:39AM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > From: Nik Clayton > > [...] > > ${DOC}.txt: ${DOC}.html > > - lynx -nolist -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} > > + w3m -S -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} > > [...] > > > Has anyone got any opinions on this one way or the other? In particular, > > I'd like to hear from the translation teams as to whether or not w3m's > > -dump option works correctly for text in their locale. > > OK. I'll test this but it seems better than lynx for Japanese (if it > compiled with JAPANESE option). Thanks. > But I don't know how w3m handles other laguages. If this change > causes problem, I think Alexey's solution is better. Alexey's solution is better anyway. I'll do it when the ports system is unfrozen. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 17:54:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD94C153F5; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA80053; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:54:33 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912160154.RAA80053@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bmah@acm.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14426: FAQ entry on kernel panics needs updating Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ entry on kernel panics needs updating State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 17:53:51 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committing new text now, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 17:56:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A681150FD; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:56:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19242; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:59:19 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:59:18 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Chris Costello , Alexey Zelkin , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, brett@lariat.org Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Message-ID: <19991215235918.E66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199912141700.JAA84017@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991214230026.C15720@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991214195341.B868@holly.calldei.com> <19991215065344.B10327@mppsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991215065344.B10327@mppsystems.com>; from Mike Pritchard on Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 06:53:44AM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 06:53:44AM -0600, Mike Pritchard wrote: > Probably what we need is a security(7) man page the describes securelevel > along with a bunch of other stuff. Oddly enough, we do, since 3.1 in fact. It just seems to be little noticed. That might be a better choice to MLINK to instead of init(8). N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 18: 8:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965E41529A; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA81214; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:08:35 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912160208.SAA81214@freefall.freebsd.org> To: james@targetnet.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14449: time clamping effect of securelevel not documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: time clamping effect of securelevel not documented State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 18:07:57 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committing a fix to init.8 now. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 18:16:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EC414E09; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA82150; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:16:36 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912160216.SAA82150@freefall.freebsd.org> To: moriko@yakumo.noe.mcu.or.jp, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14738: wrong type of arg is described for kgetstr(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: wrong type of arg is described for kgetstr(3) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 15 18:16:23 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committing a fix now. Thanks. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF4763.7E96A700-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 15 23:32:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0826A153B0; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA22370; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:38:14 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id IAA11905; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:51:37 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:51:37 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Chris Costello , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/13792: Difficult to find documentation of "securelevel" Message-ID: <19991216085137.A23431@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <199912141700.JAA84017@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991214230026.C15720@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991214195341.B868@holly.calldei.com> <19991215065344.B10327@mppsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19991215065344.B10327@mppsystems.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 06:53:44AM -0600, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > > Don't forget to add ".Nm securelevel" string also. > > > > Why? Take a look at ``man rdump'' and compare with ``man > > dump'' for just one example. It's not like ``securelevel'' is a > > command here. [..] > Probably what we need is a security(7) man page the describes securelevel > along with a bunch of other stuff. IMHO it would be better. Since securelevel is not application therefore we can't legaly include it to any manual section, except 7th (Misc docs). And it should be most staisfied solution to move all securelevel related data from init(8) to security(7) and add MLINKS/.Nm to security(7). Thoughts ? -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 16 0: 4:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 647) id 733A314E50; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:04:25 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <19991216080425.733A314E50@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:04:25 -0800 (PST) From: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG (Wolfram Schneider) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [This is an automatically created E-Mail message from the daily webupdate cron job:] ===> FAQ (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq && make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=/home/wosch/public_html/data/FAQ all) /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml:8088:14:E: general entity "man.make.1" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. make all failed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 16 2:57:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from knight.cons.org (knight.cons.org [194.233.237.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C4C14DCA for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 02:57:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cracauer@knight.cons.org) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by knight.cons.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28727 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:57:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:57:21 +0100 From: Martin Cracauer To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Current way to test handbook changes? Message-ID: <19991216115721.A28719@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What is the preferred way to test handbook changes before commit and is hub equipped with everything you need? I get: books/handbook(hub)7% make /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml /amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml:12:0:E: cannot open "/amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent" (No such file or directory) /usr/local/bin/jade:/amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml:46:5:E: general entity "bookinfo.legalnotice" not defined and no default entity ... although I have a checked out doc/share in the same tree. Thanks Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ Tel.: (private) +4940 5221829 Fax.: (private) +4940 5228536 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 16 3:13:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F8214EAB; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 03:13:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03396; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:10:29 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:10:29 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19991216111028.H66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991216080425.733A314E50@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991216080425.733A314E50@hub.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 12:04:25AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 12:04:25AM -0800, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq && make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=/home/wosch/public_html/data/FAQ all) > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml > /usr/local/bin/jade:/g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml:8088:14:E: general entity "man.make.1" not defined and no default entity Oh bugger. Sorry folks, my cockup. I thought the man-ref entities were already in the FAQ. Should've done "make lint" before committing. Committing a fix now. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 16 3:16:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D9014F20 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 03:16:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03915; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:14:14 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:14:13 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Martin Cracauer Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current way to test handbook changes? Message-ID: <19991216111413.I66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991216115721.A28719@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991216115721.A28719@cons.org>; from Martin Cracauer on Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 11:57:21AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 11:57:21AM +0100, Martin Cracauer wrote: > What is the preferred way to test handbook changes before commit Use the "lint" or "validate" targets (same thing). They run nsgmls to do the linting, without trying to format the docs, so it's much faster. > and is hub equipped with everything you need? > > I get: > books/handbook(hub)7% make > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c > /amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/catalog > -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c > /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d > /amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl > -t sgml > /amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml > /usr/local/bin/jade:/amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml:12:0:E: > cannot open > "/amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent" > (No such file or directory) > /usr/local/bin/jade:/amd/net/freefall/host/d/users/cracauer/work/cvs-freefall-work/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml:46:5:E: > general entity "bookinfo.legalnotice" not defined and no default > entity > > ... although I have a checked out doc/share in the same tree. What's in that doc/share? It doesn't look complete. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 16 8:53: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E23315628; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA11130; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912161652.IAA11130@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13956: commercial vendor: JAV-Associates Consulting Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: commercial vendor: JAV-Associates Consulting State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 16 08:51:48 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: jav.tytek.net is not valid address To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 16 17:52:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87D41574D for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id CAA16891 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:49:32 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id CAA00999 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:35:48 +0100 (CET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:35:47 +0100 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: faq entry about booting an existing system from floppy Message-ID: <19991217023547.A748@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As a followup to the `easyboot far into disk' thread on -stable, here is that faq entry about the subject. I haven't done FreeBSD docs before so there may easily be something wrong with this... I'm not subscribed to -doc (should i?) so please Cc any comments to me. And my ooold TeX installation apparently needs an update so i was only able to look at the html output. Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -u -r1.25 book.sgml --- book.sgml 1999/11/25 09:08:54 1.25 +++ book.sgml 1999/12/17 00:33:38 @@ -1473,6 +1473,7 @@ + I get a ``panic: cant mount root'' error when rebooting the system after installation. This error comes from confusion between the boot block's and the @@ -1527,6 +1528,226 @@ + + + +How do I boot an existing FreeBSD system +from a floppy/CDROM, for example when only the kernel or loader is +damaged, something has killed the boot manager or the slice +with the root filesystem despite all warnings ended up on a too +high position on its disk to be accessible for the BIOS? + +This method works with the three-stage loader thats now in +3.x, not sure about -current. You should be able to boot older +systems in this way too if you make a custom boot floppy with your +older kernel. This _may_ also help as a workaround if you have a +``geometry'' problem but i don't have such systems to test. +You can do it ``manually'' with just the installation +kern.flp for the version of the system you +use, or you can make a custom floppy and put your own kernel on it +and have it boot automagically. And if the box in question doesn't +have a floppy drive or you just want to boot a little faster, you +could even put that image on a CD... If the root disk is invisible +to the BIOS, like when its on a supported but BIOS-less SCSI +controller you need a small patch to the loader (see +this message +in the mailing list archive, you can replace the loader on the +floppy just like you can replace the kernel), or if you make a +new kernel you could also use the "-a" boot flag +but then you'd still have to be at the console for every boot to +type the root device to the kernel. (If you wonder why the BOOTMFS +kernel on the original kern.flp doesn't work +with "-a": for some reason it has + +config kernel root on wd0 + + +instead of something like + +config kernel swap generic + + +which would be needed to allow the "-a" flag to work. and of course +if you do use this you can omit the "lsdev" and "set rootdev" parts +below.) + +First the ``manual'' method: + + + Boot the floppy as usual, but leave it in the +drive when it asks for the mfsroot.flp (ignoring +the error), the mfsroot image would only be in the way for what +you will be doing. + + + When the Booting ... in x seconds... +countdown comes up interrupt it (like, hit the space bar) to get at the +loader's +prompt. Now find out its idea about where the partition with the +root filesystem is: do a + disk0s4a:> lsdev +and note the hard disk partition with ends with `a' (not the one +on disk0 which is the floppy). If there is more than one disk with +a `a' partition the root filesystem is usually the first, but not +necessarily. (If you have a backup of the +/etc/fstab look there, otherwise its most +likely a fresh install and you should know. :) If the BIOS didn't +see the root disk at all either fiddle with the hardware/BIOS until +it does (if its a SCSI disk sometimes changing the ID to 0 helps) +or see the comments about the patched loader or the "boot -a" +flag above. + + + Type + disk0s4a:> set rootdev= +followed by the loader's name for the slice with the root you just +noted above, with a trailing `:' (important). If you use the +patched loader and the root is on a disk the BIOS didn't see you +have to guess this value (numbering starts above the last disk +the BIOS saw, with the patched loader you can also just use 0 for +the disk number if you set the root_disk_unit +variable too, see below. The slice number you have to know or +check with sysinstall, well actually you can also omit it but then +you may find you have to take it out of the root entry in the +fstab too before you'll be able to go +multi user.) And if the BIOS didn't see the disk you also have +to set the new root_disk_type variable, like + disk0s4a:> set root_disk_type=da +if its a SCSI disk or + disk0s4a:> set root_disk_type=wd +if its IDE. +After that (in most cases, see below) you will be ready to do the + disk0s4a:> boot, +optionally followed by any of the usual flags listed in the +boot(8) +manpage. Like "-c" to invoke userconfig (actually as you will be +booting the installation kernel (BOOTMFS) it will ask about that +itself anyway, unless you have already replaced the kernel on the +floppy), remember any userconfig script that you or sysinstall +might have created is obviously now unavailable. If the disk(s) +have been moved from another system/controller/channel/SCSI ID +order you may also want "-s" to be able to fix the +fstab before going multi-user. Of course, +usually you'd then end up in single user anyway when the mount of +one of the moved filesystems fails, but if there is more than one +disk and you're especially lucky it may end up just mounting things +wrong instead... Also use this ("-s") when you test this with a +kernel on the floppy that belongs to a newer version than the +installed system (like, when you want to make a boot floppy for an +old system that didn't yet have the three-stage loader), it should(!) +still be able to run the /bin/sh but other +things will most likely fail. In this case don't go multi user +but run /sbin/reboot, or just hit reset at +the prompt for the shell (which won't cause an fsck run as nothing +has been mounted read/write yet), and then go on preparing a custom +boot floppy with your older kernel. (If you don't have another +system around to do it on try it in single user mode, or use +sysinstall's Fixit mode.) + + +If the boot fails with a ``cannot mount root'' panic +(and you didn't use the "-a" boot flag to type the root device +directly to the kernel in which case it was just wrong) then +you have been bitten by the problem described in the previous entry. Find the kernel's +idea of the numbering of the disk with the root on it (thats the +first digit after its da for SCSI or +wd for IDE device name, you can again check +the / line in /etc/fstab, +and these are also the names that sysinstall uses when you select +disk(s).) Then try the above again, only this time adding a + disk0s4a:> set root_disk_unit= +followed by this number before the final + disk0s4a:> boot +command. +Now for the custom boot floppy: + + +dd the +kern.flp image to another (formatted) floppy, +then mount it (no options needed, its plain vanilla ufs). +If you want to use a different kernel than the BOOTMFS on the floppy +(which is a bit limited as it needs all the possible devices and +there isn't too much space on a floppy) then copy it to somewhere +like /tmp and if its been built with +-g strip the debug symbols: + &prompt.root; strip -g /tmp/kernel +btw you should still be able to do debug crashdumps then, the debug +symbols are only needed in the copy of the kernel you give to the +debugger. Finally gzip it and copy it over the one on the mounted +floppy. + + +Edit the floppy's boot/loader.rc: +take out anything having to do with the mfsroot image, and +replace it with the set rootdev and any +set root_disk_type and/or +set root_disk_unit commands you just used above. +If you need a userconfig script then put that on the floppy too +and add a load -t userconfig_script command +with its filename. Btw the userconfig settings of the running +kernel can also be retrieved with +kget(8) +so if you are going to use the running kernel and its settings +on the floppy you can generate it that way too. + + + u(n)mount the floppy, flip its write protect +tab just in case, reboot, and try it out. + + +And if you do have to make a boot CD: A good candidate is +probably the ``live fs'' one, then you have it right there should +you need the ``Fixit'' mode. (Just boot with the original +install floppy pair and select Fixit and CD then. Well you could +probably also use the boot.flp image as your +boot floppy image if you replace the kernel and copy the mfsroot +image from the mfsroot.flp and then set rootdev +back to disk0 and load the mfsroot image by hand +to get to sysinstall... Of course if you don't have a 2.88M floppy +drive you'd have to use a +vn device +to prepare it then. And possibly build a new kernel first as vn +isn't in BOOTMFS or GENERIC.) +But first (if the machine doesn't already have two floppy +drives) you need to know if the BIOS maps the (real) floppy +as drive B: when booting a CD because that will change the +loader's numbering of the disks... (well unless you use the +patched loader and have both root_disk_type and +root_disk_unit set in which case the loader's +numbering doesn't matter anymore.) If you don't know you can boot +any recent FreeBSD installation CD and look at the loader's startup +messages. (And if you don't have one you could take just the +boot.flp image and make a bootable CD from +that...) If the BIOS does map the floppy as B: then you'll have +to adjust the rootdev value in the +loader.rc of the floppy image that will go on +the CD, all hard disks will be numbered one higher for the loader +then. +To create a bootable CD (image) use +mkisofs +with the "-b" and "-c" flags (and probably also "-R" for Rockridge. +mkisofs is +in +ports, if you prefer you can also use it with a GUI frontend +like gcombust, also in ports). +What you then use to actually write the CD doesn't really +matter, as long as it can be told to take an already prepared +.iso image file instead of creating the +filesystem itself. (``Other'' OSes usually haven't heared about +unix-like file permissions and don't know how to create a CD +filesystem with Rockridge extensions, which you want at least for +the live fs one.) Of course you _can_ do it on FreeBSD too, see +for example the cdrecord +and gcombust +ports, or try the wormcontrol +stuff if you're one of the unlucky ones whose CD writer isn't +SCSI. -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 6:30:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79814F09; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA49916; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:30:42 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912171430.GAA49916@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13959: cgi notes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: cgi notes State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 17 06:25:07 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: All scripts use/usr/bin/perl instead of /usr/local/bin/perl now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 6:39:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5753614E77; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA50809; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:39:52 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912171439.GAA50809@freefall.freebsd.org> To: zgabor@CoDe.hu, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13657: mklocale(1) man errors Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: mklocale(1) man errors State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 17 06:39:13 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in both -CURRENT and -STABLE. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 6:45:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6099214E49; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA51254; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:45:21 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912171445.GAA51254@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sjr@home.com, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14936: Update for chpass.1 man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update for chpass.1 man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 17 06:44:45 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in both -CURRENT and -STABLE. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 6:51:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538C415867; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:50:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA51954; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:50:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:50:26 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912171450.GAA51954@freefall.freebsd.org> To: okazaki@be.to, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14858: pthread_cond_{destroy,timed_wait,wait}.3 typo fix Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pthread_cond_{destroy,timed_wait,wait}.3 typo fix State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 17 06:49:56 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 6:53: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422C914C2F; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:52:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA52296; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:52:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:52:59 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912171452.GAA52296@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linus@swox.se, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14321: Missing ld.so.1. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing ld.so.1. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 17 06:51:09 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: ld.so(1) (AKA rtld(1)) is aout util. And it's availbale is main distribuion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 6:53:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3203314C85 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:53:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sreenath@bellatlantic.net) Received: from shailu (client-110-163.bellatlantic.net [151.198.110.163]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA10353 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:51:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000801bf489f$2a25e630$a36ec697@shailu> From: "sreenaths" To: Subject: to install freeBSD on windows NT Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:58:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF4875.3FFAFC90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF4875.3FFAFC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi : I have 3 logical drives c:, d:, e: on my WINDOWS NT system. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF4875.3FFAFC90-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 7: 6:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2723614DCB for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:06:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04510; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:05:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:05:11 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: sreenaths Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: to install freeBSD on windows NT Message-ID: <19991217160511.D3961@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <000801bf489f$2a25e630$a36ec697@shailu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <000801bf489f$2a25e630$a36ec697@shailu>; from sreenath@bellatlantic.net on Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 09:58:21AM -0500 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, -On [19991217 16:00], sreenaths (sreenath@bellatlantic.net) wrote: > >I have 3 logical drives c:, d:, e: on my WINDOWS NT system. I have >lot of space on e: drive where I want to install free BSD. Can I get >some help in installing freeBSD on my e: drive without disturbing my NT >OS on c: drive. These questions are best asked on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. Also, have you looked at the FAQ yet which resides on www.freebsd.org? kind regards, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator bART Internet Services / Tel: +31 - (0) 10 - 240 39 70 VIA NET.WORKS Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 7:26:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8804914E8D for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:26:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id QAA18199; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:26:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11yzIe-0003yx-00; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:28:08 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:28:07 +0100 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: interesting... Message-ID: <19991217162807.C12454@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everybody! Reading the last mail about asking help for a very basic setup situation... I was wondering why people keep sending those questions (and many even more stupid ones like "send me the Free BSD") exactly to *this* list? Is this address listed somewhere in the docs or on the web pages as the place to get help or something? I am on several other FBSD mailing lists and none of them gets this type of questions... If it is, even in some seemingly innocent context, we should make clear what we are for because most people disprefer reading long docs and instead want an answer for *their* problems instantly, individualized and of course free. (That is why all support hotlines are unreachable at hardware vendors...:-) Maybe it is the maintainer info or something similar... Just some quick thoughts... 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------=_NextPart_000_0021_01BF48F2.33742B40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 8:43:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from psasolar.colltech.com (psasolar.colltech.com [208.229.236.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D991814BE5 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:43:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nvp@colltech.com) Received: (from nvp@localhost) by psasolar.colltech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/not) id KAA07293; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:43:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:43:43 -0500 From: Nathan Patwardhan To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Would like to write "Kickstart" installation documentation Message-ID: <19991217114343.A6674@colltech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, After combing through the latest (stable) release source tree, I came across some interesting details about sysinstall and automated installations. (I've been using FreeBSD for about 5 years and never knew that sysinstall had this capability.) After reading through a bunch of man pages, mailing list archives, etc., I realized that there wasn't "One True Source" for documenting automated FreeBSD installations and I thought about writing something up -- either as a white paper/stand-alone document, or as an addition to the FreeBSD Handbook. Granted, sysinstall may change at some point or other (per a recent discussion on -current) but as for the 2.2.X and 3.X releases, sysinstall is still the starting point for all installations. So an effort to develop such a document wouldn't be for naught. In any case, do you see the need for such a document? If you do, what would be the next step in developing it? Where do you think that such a document would fit into the current FreeBSD documentation scheme? Please let me know; I'd love to start moving ahead with this. Thanks! -- _ _ |_| Collective |_| Nathan V. Patwardhan |_ technologies _| Collective Technologies, Team Yankee [] [] "The Power Of Many Minds" http://www.colltech.com -- Managing Systems and Networks -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 12: 5:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 647) id A0B7B15799; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:05:39 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <19991217200539.A0B7B15799@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:05:39 -0800 (PST) From: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG (Wolfram Schneider) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [This is an automatically created E-Mail message from the daily webupdate cron job:] ===> FAQ (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq && make 'FORMATS=html-split html' DESTDIR=/home/wosch/public_html/data/FAQ all) /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml:809:1:E: general entity "man.dd.1" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. make all failed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 17 13:26:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19BB14F83; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:26:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.11]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA4708; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:26:35 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21967; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:26:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:26:31 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19991217222631.B20837@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991217200539.A0B7B15799@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991217200539.A0B7B15799@hub.freebsd.org>; from wosch@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 12:05:39PM -0800 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991217 21:14], Wolfram Schneider (wosch@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: >/usr/local/bin/jade:/g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml:809:1:E: general entity "man.dd.1" not defined and no default entity Fixed in rev 1.14 of doc/share/sgml/man-refs.ent. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 18 7:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jubilee.ns.sympatico.ca (jubilee.ns.sympatico.ca [142.177.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE3315083 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 07:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.petrovsky@ns.sympatico.ca) Received: from ns.sympatico.ca ([142.177.78.8]) by jubilee.ns.sympatico.ca (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 607-63094U73000L73000S0V35) with ESMTP id ca for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:50:01 -0400 Message-ID: <385BAD8E.F2BE7FC5@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:51:42 -0400 From: m.petrovsky@ns.sympatico.ca (Michele Petrovsky) Reply-To: m.petrovsky@ns.sympatico.ca Organization: Cottage Books X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-SYMPA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Permission to Reproduce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please accept this message as my request to reproduce information from your Web site in a book I am preparing for IDG Books Worldwide. The title of that book is "WINE Administrator's Handbook". The information in question is from the archived documentation on your site, and deals with troubleshooting and XFree86. Should you require any more information, you may reach me at 610-358-2408. Sincerely, Michele Petrovsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 18 10:56:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EF314C1C for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.231]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5E47 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 19:56:10 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA33527 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 19:56:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 19:56:12 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Patches I have up my sleeve Message-ID: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, as some of you might have discovered I nowadays got access over the repository so that I can commit. I got some patches lying around which I want to commit soon. One, which impacts a lot of files per subdir (faq, handbook, etc) will remove all excessive whitespaces which were introduced by the sgmlmode of emacs. I consider this a bug in the editor and should be properly cleaned up. Another is the proper indention and organising of the FAQ. Anyone working on this? If I don't see anyone pipe up within a few days I'll start to work on these things when I get time to do so. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 18 11: 9: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285FA14E50 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.231]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA2723 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 20:09:00 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA33626 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 20:09:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 20:09:02 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: A question regarding style Message-ID: <19991218200902.B26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When we do 2 space indents, shouldn't we make the 8 space indent (tab) expand to it's space equivalent? That means 8 spaces instead of one ^I. This due to the fact that if you change indent levels you have to use those 2 space indents anyways. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 18 22:20: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495E51520E for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA70769; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 4F61A14CB7; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:16:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19991219061651.4F61A14CB7@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 22:16:51 -0800 (PST) From: johnpipe@nwserv.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/15557: man page for 'man' doesn't explain syntax for accessing "SEE ALSO" numbered pages. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15557 >Category: docs >Synopsis: man page for 'man' doesn't explain syntax for accessing "SEE ALSO" numbered pages. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Dec 18 22:20:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Meshkoff >Release: o FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE (vs. 3.3-RC) - This includes minor >Organization: Siva Kalpa Productions >Environment: FreeBSD web2.sea.nwserv.com 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Sun Nov 21 16:12:06 GM T 1999 dpk@web2.sea.nwserv.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/NWSERV-S i386 >Description: As a novice user, I encountered the problem that I didn't know how to access man pages under "SEE ALSO" where those pages were given in the form: "SEE ALSO sysctl(3), uname(3), sysctl(8)" the command 'man man' (i.e., the man page for 'man') ought to explain and give an example of the syntax, so new users can find how to access these pages; the syntax is not at all apparent, since parentheses are not used in the 'man' command, and the syntax is opposite of that implied above, i.e., "man 3 sysctl". I only found out how to do this because a reply to a question posted to best.unix (local group on best.com) included a paste-in of the command format. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Add command syntax explanation and example for numbered man pages to the man page for 'man'. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 2: 8:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98F814D03; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 02:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA83357; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 02:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 02:08:46 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912191008.CAA83357@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asmodai@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, asmodai@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15557: man page for 'man' doesn't explain syntax for accessing "SEE ALSO" numbered pages. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man page for 'man' doesn't explain syntax for accessing "SEE ALSO" numbered pages. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->asmodai Responsible-Changed-By: asmodai Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Dec 19 02:07:22 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 4:10:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from serio.al.rim.or.jp (serio.al.rim.or.jp [202.247.191.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B80151E8; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 04:09:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from mail-relay.rim.or.jp by serio.al.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W/HMX-12) with ESMTP id VAA17084; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:09:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp392.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.92]) by mail-relay.rim.or.jp (3.7W/HMX-12) id VAA06141; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:09:24 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id VAA13427; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:09:23 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:09:22 +0900 Message-ID: <14428.51954.499006.22222V@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: Doc Team Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? In-Reply-To: In your message of "Thu, 16 Dec 1999 01:24:10 +0000" <19991216012410.G66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14424.3915.863570.71255S@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991216012410.G66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Nik Clayton > > OK. I'll test this but it seems better than lynx for Japanese (if it > > compiled with JAPANESE option). > Thanks. I've tested Japanese Handbook and looks fine. I think w3m is more suitable (at least in Japanese) than lynx for our purpose. If there are no complains from other translation team, please use japanese/w3m in docproj meta-port. Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 8:31:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E174514C08; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:31:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA59667; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:31:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:31:27 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912191631.IAA59667@freefall.freebsd.org> To: des@des.follo.net, asmodai@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13746: Incorrect version in FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Incorrect version in FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: asmodai State-Changed-When: Sun Dec 19 08:24:16 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: The requested change got incorporated already. Nik missed this pr when he did revision 1.24 of the FAQ. So I close it on his behalf. Please note that within a month or two we need to update it again to reflect the availability of 4.x to the masses. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 8:50: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7BA14FB1 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:50:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08809; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:50:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id RAA13650; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:49:43 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:49:42 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Michele Petrovsky Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Permission to Reproduce Message-ID: <19991219174942.F10453@bitbox.follo.net> References: <385BAD8E.F2BE7FC5@ns.sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <385BAD8E.F2BE7FC5@ns.sympatico.ca>; from m.petrovsky@ns.sympatico.ca on Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 11:51:42AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 11:51:42AM -0400, Michele Petrovsky wrote: > Please accept this message as my request to reproduce > information from your Web site in a book I am preparing > for IDG Books Worldwide. The title of that book is > "WINE Administrator's Handbook". The information in > question is from the archived documentation on your > site, and deals with troubleshooting and XFree86. Almost all our documentation is under the BSD license, and can thus be copied with appropriate credit. The source for the documentation is available from http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cbi/doc/, which will let you browse the version history, and see the copyrights. The FreeBSD Project do usually NOT hold the actual copyright, but just aggregate. As a community, we would appreciate if you returned the favour if you use parts of our documentation, and included information in your book about how to administer WINE on FreeBSD :-) Feel free to ask if you need further information on how to the resources available. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 8:59:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B0B14C91 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:59:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08875; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:59:35 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id RAA13724; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:59:35 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:59:35 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Michele Petrovsky Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Permission to Reproduce Message-ID: <19991219175935.G10453@bitbox.follo.net> References: <385BAD8E.F2BE7FC5@ns.sympatico.ca> <19991219174942.F10453@bitbox.follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991219174942.F10453@bitbox.follo.net>; from eivind@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 05:49:42PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 05:49:42PM +0100, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 11:51:42AM -0400, Michele Petrovsky wrote: > > Please accept this message as my request to reproduce > > information from your Web site in a book I am preparing > > for IDG Books Worldwide. The title of that book is > > "WINE Administrator's Handbook". The information in > > question is from the archived documentation on your > > site, and deals with troubleshooting and XFree86. > > Almost all our documentation is under the BSD license, and can thus be > copied with appropriate credit. The source for the documentation is > available from http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cbi/doc/, which will This is of course supposed to be http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/ Thanks to Chris Costello for notifying me. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 9:45:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from drago.cert.org.tw (drago.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F264B14D97; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw) Received: from foxfair (chateau.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.101]) by drago.cert.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA28477; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:46:23 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:51:52 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Message-Id: <385D1B381B8.0682FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: Jun Kuriyama wrote: > >I've tested Japanese Handbook and looks fine. I think w3m is more >suitable (at least in Japanese) than lynx for our purpose. >If there are no complains from other translation team, please use >japanese/w3m in docproj meta-port. > w3m works just fine here, under the standard zh-TW.Big5 locale env. configuration and the ports/www/w3m. No extra hack or patch to any part of the system, both in src(locale) and ports(w3m). Please, take this consideration : "DON'T use a l10n port to be the default dependent part of our functinal work". I prefer using www/w3m instead of japanese/w3m to be the chosen one, at least www/w3m is no problem in Chinese. >Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org Cheers, -Foxfair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 10:18: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1084151F6 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:17:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2/$Revision: 1.4 $) with ESMTP id XAA45361; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:17:40 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from andy@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.8.6) id XAA28642; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:17:36 +0500 (ES) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Message-Id: <199912191817.XAA28642@mail.cgu.chel.su> Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve In-Reply-To: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai at "Dec 18, 1999 07:56:12 pm" To: asmodai@wxs.nl (Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:17:36 +0500 (ES) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > If I don't see anyone pipe up within a few days I'll start to work on > these things when I get time to do so. Please, made this changes in separate commits and don't touch text, only spaces/tabs etc.. It's important for translation teams. Sincerely yours, Andy. -- Tel: +7-(3512)-38-39-73, E-mail: andy@icc.surw.chel.su WWW: http://surw.chel.su/~andy/index.html, ICQ:10705306 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 10:56:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDA5151CF; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:56:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA67975; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:56:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:56:47 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912191856.KAA67975@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bin/15561: regex(3) manpage needs update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: regex(3) manpage needs update Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Dec 19 10:56:29 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Misfiled PR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 11:17:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B84F14FFB; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:17:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA69279; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:17:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:17:31 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912191917.LAA69279@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jburkhol@home.com, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15036: update of queue manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: update of queue manpage State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Sun Dec 19 11:16:00 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 11:20:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48B114CFA; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:20:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@chuck.jerocu.net) Received: from chuck.jerocu.net (chuck.jerocu.net [194.224.235.59]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA06923; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:20:13 +0100 (CET) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by chuck.jerocu.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01438; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:20:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:20:06 +0100 (CET) From: "JesusR." To: Nik Clayton Subject: RE: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14-Dec-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > I've been playing with w3m (ports/www/w3m), which is a lynx replacement. > Apart from being somewhat nicer to use than lynx, and a quarter of the > size (231,244 bytes, versus 862,648 bytes), w3m also handles tables (and > even frames, which we don't use). It works ok with spanish too. Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 12:42:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4734F1501D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 1477 invoked from network); 19 Dec 1999 20:42:34 -0000 Received: from userbq64.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.146.158) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 1999 20:42:34 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA71451 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:42:29 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:42:29 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Urgent help req'd building docproj port Message-ID: <19991219204229.A38044@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having *major* problems building the docproj port. Many of the dependencies were well out of date so it seemed like a good idea. I did ``pkg_delete -f'' on all the appropriate elements (as listed in sections 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 of the FDP primer) and then ran ``make JADETEX=no install'' in the docproj port directory. It d/l'd plenty of source and built it, completing successfully - or so it seemed. Attempting to build the docs resulted in hundreds of errors (mainly from jade). Checking /var/db/pkg showed that docbook, dsssl, and sp hadn't been installed. Poking around I found that the docbook and linuxdoc directories still existed in /usr/local/share/sgml, so I ``rm -rf''d them, re-ran ``make JADETEX=no install'' in the docproj directory and this time it built dsssl, docbook, and linuxdoc, but trying to build the docs still bombs out with hundreds of errors like: /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml:297:63:E: element "ANSWER" undefined So what's going wrong? Am I right in thinking that the docproj meta-port is supposed to check and, if necessary, build *all* the dependencies required to build the docs? And why is ``make deinstall'' (and pkg_delete -f) not removing them? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- "there's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture that allows you to install Windows too ;" -Matthew D. Fuller ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 14:29:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75803152D1 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:29:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08134; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:24:12 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:24:11 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve Message-ID: <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 07:56:12PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 07:56:12PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > I got some patches lying around which I want to commit soon. > > One, which impacts a lot of files per subdir (faq, handbook, etc) will > remove all excessive whitespaces which were introduced by the sgmlmode > of emacs. I consider this a bug in the editor and should be properly > cleaned up. What sort of excessive whitespace? > Another is the proper indention and organising of the FAQ. > > Anyone working on this? Chris Costello is currently actively working on the FAQ, so I expect he'll pipe up in a minute :-) N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 14:29:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F1A15239; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:29:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08992; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:31:08 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:31:07 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: John Baldwin Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Some more patches, whitespace for the handbook Message-ID: <19991219213107.D4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199912121835.NAA64952@server.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199912121835.NAA64952@server.baldwin.cx>; from John Baldwin on Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 01:35:32PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 01:35:32PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > This patch just trims trailing whitespace from every line in the Handbook > (most lines don't have any). > The question is, if we do this is it going to stay out, Not sure. I'm not 100% sure what's putting it in there in the first place. Anyone with hard evidence to point the finger at one particular program? > and is it worth the extra repo bloat it will cause? I (with my 33.6 modem, not the fastest in the world) don't mind the occasional large updates because of things like this. I'm more concerned with making sure that, once fixed, it stays fixed. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 14:29:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAA015342 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:29:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07998; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:23:07 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:23:07 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question regarding style Message-ID: <19991219212307.A4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991218200902.B26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991218200902.B26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 08:09:02PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 08:09:02PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > When we do 2 space indents, shouldn't we make the 8 space indent (tab) > expand to it's space equivalent? That means 8 spaces instead of one ^I. > > This due to the fact that if you change indent levels you have to use > those 2 space indents anyways. Don't particularly care. I'm agnostic on the issue, as long as Xemacs works correctly :-) For what it's worth, style(9) says Do not add whitespace at the end of a line, and only use tabs followed by spaces to form the indentation. Do not use more spaces than a tab will produce and do not use spaces in front of tabs. So a 10 character indent is one tab plus two spaces, not 10 spaces. That seems to be what Xemacs does by default. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 14:29:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5560F15283; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:29:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08533; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:27:23 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:27:23 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: nik@freebsd.org, Doc Team Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Message-ID: <19991219212723.C4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14424.3915.863570.71255S@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991216012410.G66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14428.51954.499006.22222V@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14428.51954.499006.22222V@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 09:09:22PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 09:09:22PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > From: Nik Clayton > > > OK. I'll test this but it seems better than lynx for Japanese (if it > > > compiled with JAPANESE option). > > Thanks. > > I've tested Japanese Handbook and looks fine. I think w3m is more > suitable (at least in Japanese) than lynx for our purpose. > > If there are no complains from other translation team, please use > japanese/w3m in docproj meta-port. Foxfair bought up something I didn't make clear. I was expecting to use www/w3m, not ja/w3m, in the metaport. Is that OK? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 14:58:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jaguars.cableinet.net (jaguars-int.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08E0A151CF for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:58:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@lavron.com) Received: (qmail 7081 invoked from network); 19 Dec 1999 22:58:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lavron) (194.117.148.32) by jaguars with SMTP; 19 Dec 1999 22:58:05 -0000 From: "Lee Norvall" To: Subject: Distributors Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:59:07 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi We are a company in the UK and would like a list of distributors that you use. Lee Norvall, MCP, CNA, MCP+I, MCSE Lavron Technologies (UK) Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 16: 9:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3273414A0D; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:09:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FN0005QWJ3M4C@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:09:23 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01492; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:12:11 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:12:07 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve In-reply-to: <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991219181207.A448@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 19, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Chris Costello is currently actively working on the FAQ, so I expect he'll > pipe up in a minute :-) Actually, up until now, school has been a nasty obstacle. I've been working on it lightly off and on, but now I can spend some more time with it. I'm also wondering if Jeroen is still interested in helping me work on it. -- |Chris Costello |You buttered your bread, now lie in it. `--------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 22: 7:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1214D152BF for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:07:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.199.168]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FN0ZO101.R63; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:07:13 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA44382; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:59:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:59:26 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Andrey Zakhvatov Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve Message-ID: <19991220065926.B35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <199912191817.XAA28642@mail.cgu.chel.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199912191817.XAA28642@mail.cgu.chel.su>; from andy@cgu.chel.su on Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 11:17:36PM +0500 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991219 20:00], Andrey Zakhvatov (andy@cgu.chel.su) wrote: >> If I don't see anyone pipe up within a few days I'll start to work on >> these things when I get time to do so. > Please, made this changes in separate commits and don't touch text, >only spaces/tabs etc.. It's important for translation teams. Hey of course. That has been the idea from the start. =) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 22: 7:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58A2152C8; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:07:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.199.168]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FN0ZO801.R66; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:07:20 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA44397; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:03:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:03:33 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Chris Costello Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve Message-ID: <19991220070333.D35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19991219181207.A448@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991219181207.A448@holly.calldei.com>; from chris@calldei.com on Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 06:12:07PM -0600 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991220 04:00], Chris Costello (chris@calldei.com) wrote: >On Sun, Dec 19, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: >> Chris Costello is currently actively working on the FAQ, so I expect he'll >> pipe up in a minute :-) > > Actually, up until now, school has been a nasty obstacle. >I've been working on it lightly off and on, but now I can spend >some more time with it. I'm also wondering if Jeroen is still >interested in helping me work on it. Of course Chris, that's why I also asked. Do we want the FAQ to be split up in sections just like the handbook? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 22: 7:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C79152C7; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:07:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.199.168]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FN0ZO201.R65; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:07:15 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA44393; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:02:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:02:01 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve Message-ID: <19991220070201.C35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 09:24:11PM +0000 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991220 00:01], Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org) wrote: >On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 07:56:12PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> I got some patches lying around which I want to commit soon. >> >> One, which impacts a lot of files per subdir (faq, handbook, etc) will >> remove all excessive whitespaces which were introduced by the sgmlmode >> of emacs. I consider this a bug in the editor and should be properly >> cleaned up. > >What sort of excessive whitespace? Just take a random file from the handbook and you will see a lot of of four spaces on line between tags. These lines should be empty instead of carrying four spaces. I am really thinking emacs sgml mode messed up. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 23: 5:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACEC14F05; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:05:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FN100I9K2DHRT@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:05:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06549; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:08:29 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:08:28 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve In-reply-to: <19991220070333.D35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991220010828.E6167@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19991219181207.A448@holly.calldei.com> <19991220070333.D35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 20, 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > Of course Chris, that's why I also asked. > > Do we want the FAQ to be split up in sections just like the handbook? I had an idea like so: section/ subsection.sgml anothersub.sgml The layout is still up at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~chris/newfaq/ -- |Chris Costello |Programmers do it bit by bit. `---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 23:16: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888F115103 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:16:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11zx2q-000ABZ-00; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:15:48 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:15:48 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Nathan Patwardhan Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Would like to write "Kickstart" installation documentation Message-ID: <19991220091547.C38843@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <19991217114343.A6674@colltech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991217114343.A6674@colltech.com> Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri 1999-12-17 (11:43), Nathan Patwardhan wrote: > In any case, do you see the need for such a document? If you do, what > would be the next step in developing it? Where do you think that such > a document would fit into the current FreeBSD documentation scheme? > Please let me know; I'd love to start moving ahead with this. Yes! I, for one, would be rather happy if you were to work on this. I think, at this stage, it may be easier as an Docbook article, but it really doesn't make that much of a difference, since with Docbook you aren't generally locking yourself into anything. Admittedly it might be a bit of a jump to learning Docbook, but the fdp-primer is generally a good reference to it. If you don't think you'll have the time to learn it (it's a good thing to learn, though), I volunteer for converting your HTML or even ASCII submission to Docbook. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 23:16:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE4514F05; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.54.16]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FN12VB03.E0F; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:16:23 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA44697; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:38:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:38:02 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Cc: John Baldwin , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Some more patches, whitespace for the handbook Message-ID: <19991220073802.G35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <199912121835.NAA64952@server.baldwin.cx> <19991219213107.D4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991219213107.D4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 09:31:07PM +0000 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991220 00:01], Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org) wrote: >On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 01:35:32PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: >> This patch just trims trailing whitespace from every line in the Handbook >> (most lines don't have any). >> The question is, if we do this is it going to stay out, > >Not sure. I'm not 100% sure what's putting it in there in the first place. >Anyone with hard evidence to point the finger at one particular program? AFAIK emacs. Since the vim settings I use don't do this kinda thing. But 100% sure, no. >> and is it worth the extra repo bloat it will cause? > >I (with my 33.6 modem, not the fastest in the world) don't mind the >occasional large updates because of things like this. I'm more concerned >with making sure that, once fixed, it stays fixed. *nod* That was my thought exactly. So I'll start removing the whitespace. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 23:16:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F65714EB7; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.54.16]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FN12VA03.E0E; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:16:22 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA44704; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:40:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:40:25 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "JesusR." Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Message-ID: <19991220074025.H35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jerocu@wol.es on Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 08:20:06PM +0100 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991220 00:00], JesusR. (jerocu@wol.es) wrote: > >On 14-Dec-99 Nik Clayton wrote: >> I've been playing with w3m (ports/www/w3m), which is a lynx replacement. >> Apart from being somewhat nicer to use than lynx, and a quarter of the >> size (231,244 bytes, versus 862,648 bytes), w3m also handles tables (and >> even frames, which we don't use). > >It works ok with spanish too. That would mean that Dutch, French, Italian and Portuguese should be ok too. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Atone me to my throes curtail... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 19 23:19:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF9D14C18; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:19:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11zx6g-000ACR-00; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:19:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:19:46 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question regarding style Message-ID: <19991220091946.D38843@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <19991218200902.B26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991219212307.A4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991219212307.A4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun 1999-12-19 (21:23), Nik Clayton wrote: > > This due to the fact that if you change indent levels you have to use > > those 2 space indents anyways. > > Don't particularly care. I'm agnostic on the issue, as long as Xemacs works > correctly :-) > > For what it's worth, style(9) says > > Do not add whitespace at the end of a line, and only use tabs followed by > spaces to form the indentation. Do not use more spaces than a tab will > produce and do not use spaces in front of tabs. > > So a 10 character indent is one tab plus two spaces, not 10 spaces. That > seems to be what Xemacs does by default. And is what vim with the fdp example .vimrc does. I think we should stick to it, since we've got a reasonable harmony between the xemacs behaviour and a vim behaviour. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 0:26:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B2914D21; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:26:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nbm@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA26674; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:26:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:26:18 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912200826.AAA26674@freefall.freebsd.org> To: richard@jezebel.demon.co.uk, nbm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15427: Some man pages print a blank first page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Some man pages print a blank first page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nbm State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 00:24:15 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: PR docs/14530 is similar, and contains a more solid-looking patch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 0:40: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA3714BF8 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA27789; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 7AA9115250; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:36:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19991220083639.7AA9115250@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:36:39 -0800 (PST) From: mitchy@er.ams.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/15579: The man page mk_cmds.1 in 3.3-19991217-STABLE has a TYPO. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15579 >Category: docs >Synopsis: The man page mk_cmds.1 in 3.3-19991217-STABLE has a TYPO. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 20 00:40:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Noriaki Mitsunaga >Release: 3.1-RELEASE with PAO >Organization: Osaka University >Environment: FreeBSD dell03.er.ams.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 29 12:07:51 JST 1999 mitchy@asahi.ams.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp:/usr/work/sys/compile/CARDBUS i386 >Description: The man page mk_cmds.1 in 3.3-19991217-STABLE has a TYPO. `,' should be added after `unimplemented ss_latest'. Also in the example, if there are `command_table ...;' and `end;' lines, it will be more helpful. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- mk_cmds.1.orig Mon Dec 20 13:54:13 1999 +++ mk_cmds.1 Mon Dec 20 17:25:20 1999 @@ -83,7 +83,7 @@ .Qq This is the explanation for anothertest , anothertest, (dont_list, dont_summarize); .Pp -unimplemented ss_lasttest +unimplemented ss_lasttest, .Qq This is the explanation for lasttest , lasttest, lt; .Sh HISTORY >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 0:45: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479E9152F8; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpiazza@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from cpiazza@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA28259; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpiazza@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:45:08 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912200845.AAA28259@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cpiazza@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, asmodai@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15579: The man page mk_cmds.1 in 3.3-19991217-STABLE has a TYPO. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: The man page mk_cmds.1 in 3.3-19991217-STABLE has a TYPO. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->asmodai Responsible-Changed-By: cpiazza Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 00:44:54 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Asmodai wrote this man page To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 5:52: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD4D14C02; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA59190; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:52:06 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912201352.FAA59190@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13356: Corrections to www/en/gallery/gallery.db Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Corrections to www/en/gallery/gallery.db Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 05:50:57 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to Gallery Editor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 5:52:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BE615062; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:52:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA59304; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:52:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:52:48 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912201352.FAA59304@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13354: URL corrections for www/en/gallery/gallery.db Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: URL corrections for www/en/gallery/gallery.db Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 05:52:14 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to Gallery Editor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 6:14: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3140A14C49; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:14:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA61275; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:14:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:14:08 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912201414.GAA61275@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15259: amd(8) refers to nonexistent automount(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: amd(8) refers to nonexistent automount(8) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->obrien Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 06:10:16 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to person who imported amd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 6:16: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D4014E96; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:15:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA61586; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:15:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:15:58 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912201415.GAA61586@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15234: sh(1) man page have capitalised instance of "sh". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: sh(1) man page have capitalised instance of "sh". Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mpp Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 06:14:55 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mike is working with this problem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 6:18:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2698152C6; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA61909; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:18:13 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912201418.GAA61909@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14159: Commercial Vendors - Software: Deskware, Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Commercial Vendors - Software: Deskware, Inc. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 06:17:25 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Gotcha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 7:57: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4602D152CB; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:57:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA26943; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:57:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:57:07 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912201557.HAA26943@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/14253: Mistake in dhclient-script(8) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Mistake in dhclient-script(8) man page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 07:56:43 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Misfiled PR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 8: 4:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from multi.al.rim.or.jp (multi.al.rim.or.jp [202.247.191.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D2515321; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:04:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from mail-relay.rim.or.jp by multi.al.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W/HMX-12) with ESMTP id BAA15079; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:04:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp388.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.88]) by mail-relay.rim.or.jp (3.7W/HMX-12) id BAA16751; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:04:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id BAA19461; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:04:38 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 01:04:38 +0900 Message-ID: <14430.21398.120089.86952F@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: Doc Team Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:27:23 +0000" <19991219212723.C4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14424.3915.863570.71255S@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991216012410.G66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14428.51954.499006.22222V@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991219212723.C4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Nik Clayton > Foxfair bought up something I didn't make clear. I was expecting to use > www/w3m, not ja/w3m, in the metaport. Is that OK? Yes, Foxfair's comment is reasonable. That's my selfish opinion, so please ignore it. I've checked w3m's JAPANESE differences and most of them are L10N of messages. I think we can handle Japanese encodings with www/w3m port (of course I will check Japanese Handbook with www/w3m). Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 11: 0:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70435153A7 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA46701 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:00:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912201900.LAA46701@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi o [1999/08/23] docs/13333 doc remove rtld(1) XREF in dlopen.3 o [1999/08/23] misc/13341 doc FAQ 8.7 addition - booting drive 1 from N o [1999/08/28] docs/13441 doc incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env o [1999/08/28] docs/13442 doc docproj-primer does not mention where to o [1999/09/17] docs/13792 doc Difficult to find documentation of "secur o [1999/09/19] docs/13815 doc Out-of-date FAQ entries o [1999/09/21] docs/13878 doc No isnanf(3) documentation o [1999/09/22] docs/13914 doc global(1) manpage does not explain -v opt o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/09/28] docs/14024 doc Several manpages still mentions hosts.den o [1999/09/29] docs/14035 doc tzfile.h referenced in tzfile(5) doesn't o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/06] docs/14165 doc FDP introduction article o [1999/10/10] ports/14253 doc Mistake in dhclient-script(8) man page o [1999/10/13] docs/14319 doc hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf o [1999/10/25] docs/14530 doc Printed manual pages have extraneous blan o [1999/10/25] bin/14532 doc Much of cam_cdbparse(3) prints in Courier o [1999/10/27] docs/14563 doc Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [1999/11/03] docs/14682 doc lprm(1) unaware of lp(1) Environment Vari o [1999/11/17] docs/14952 doc Missing man page (terminfo(5)) mentioned o [1999/12/06] docs/15300 doc assorted update for FAQ o [1999/12/10] docs/15408 doc Description of ls and nlist wrong in man o [1999/12/11] docs/15429 doc Jewish calendar is out of date o [1999/12/19] bin/15561 doc regex(3) manpage needs update 33 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 11: 8:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51E54153C1 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:08:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 29823 invoked from network); 20 Dec 1999 19:08:02 -0000 Received: from userbe91.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.142.13) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 1999 19:08:02 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA00842; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:08:00 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:08:00 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Chris Costello Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve Message-ID: <19991220190800.C322@marder-1> References: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19991219181207.A448@holly.calldei.com> <19991220070333.D35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991220010828.E6167@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991220010828.E6167@holly.calldei.com> Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 01:08:28AM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > Of course Chris, that's why I also asked. > > > > Do we want the FAQ to be split up in sections just like the handbook? > > I had an idea like so: > > section/ > subsection.sgml > anothersub.sgml > > The layout is still up at > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~chris/newfaq/ > One small suggestion. How about adding a "Top" link at the bottom of each chapter to take you back to the index at the top? > -- > |Chris Costello > |Programmers do it bit by bit. > `---------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- "there's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture that allows you to install Windows too ;" -Matthew D. Fuller ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 15:25:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AF51539D; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:25:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA74901; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:25:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:25:34 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912202325.PAA74901@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jdp@FreeBSD.org, jdp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13116: typo in ms(7) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in ms(7) Responsible-Changed-From-To: jdp->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: jdp Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 20 15:24:09 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Temporarily assigned to me for comments, which I have given. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 16: 4: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tdl.tdl.com (tdl.tdl.com [206.180.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C724B15063 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wdr@tdl.com) Received: from tdl.com (pm5-109.tdl.com [206.180.234.109]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24978 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:03:58 -0800 Message-ID: <385EC3F2.1955A728@tdl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:04:02 -0800 From: William Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sending manpage diffs (was Re: Current unassigned doc problem reports) References: <199912201900.LAA46701@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD bugmaster wrote: > o [1999/10/13] docs/14319 doc hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf I've added the appropriate reference to the hostname(1) manpage, and generated a diff for it. The Documentation Project says I should FTP this to ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ but there is no such directory. I'm willing to entertain suggestions on the Right Way to submit this. What would be the easiest way for the committers? Send it to this list? Submit it in a new PR? Am I allowed to amend this existing PR? Am I totally missing something here? TIA for any light anyone can shed on this. Cheers, William Richard wdr@tdl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 16:12:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (ric-54.freedomnet.com [198.240.105.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F74615062 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:12:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16730; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:12:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <199912210012.TAA16730@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <385EC3F2.1955A728@tdl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:12:25 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: William Richard Subject: RE: Sending manpage diffs (was Re: Current unassigned doc proble Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Dec-99 William Richard wrote: > FreeBSD bugmaster wrote: > >> o [1999/10/13] docs/14319 doc hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf > > I've added the appropriate reference to the hostname(1) manpage, and > generated a diff for it. The Documentation Project says I should FTP > this to ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ but there is no such > directory. > > I'm willing to entertain suggestions on the Right Way to submit this. > What would be the easiest way for the committers? Send it to this > list? Submit it in a new PR? Am I allowed to amend this existing PR? > Am I totally missing something here? Send a reply to the PR containing the patch. That will amend the existing PR, and is the preferred solution. > TIA for any light anyone can shed on this. > > Cheers, > William Richard > wdr@tdl.com -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 16:13: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CF7152B2 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FN200JQIDXRNS@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:13:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15197; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:15:46 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:15:46 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: Sending manpage diffs (was Re: Current unassigned doc problem reports) In-reply-to: <385EC3F2.1955A728@tdl.com> To: William Richard Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991220181545.Q6167@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <199912201900.LAA46701@freefall.freebsd.org> <385EC3F2.1955A728@tdl.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 20, 1999, William Richard wrote: > What would be the easiest way for the committers? Send it to this > list? Submit it in a new PR? Am I allowed to amend this existing PR? > Am I totally missing something here? If it's not a huge patch, just reply to the PR (include freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org in the Cc list) including the patch. -- |Chris Costello |To be, or not to be, those are the parameters. `---------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 16:14:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610E915256 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id CAA13986 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:21:05 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id WAA23430; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:56:48 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:56:48 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Message-ID: <19991220225648.A13656@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <385D1B381B8.0682FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <385D1B381B8.0682FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 01:51:52AM +0800, Foxfair Hu wrote: > >I've tested Japanese Handbook and looks fine. I think w3m is more > >suitable (at least in Japanese) than lynx for our purpose. > >If there are no complains from other translation team, please use > >japanese/w3m in docproj meta-port. > > > w3m works just fine here, under the standard zh-TW.Big5 locale env. > configuration and the ports/www/w3m. No extra hack or patch to any > part of the system, both in src(locale) and ports(w3m). I vote "yes". I have tested w3m under KOI8-R locale and it works fine! -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 16:40: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CEB14E79 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA81983; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912210040.QAA81983@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: William Richard Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Reply-To: William Richard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14319; it has been noted by GNATS. From: William Richard To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:37:51 -0800 Here's a patch: *** hostname.1.old Mon Dec 20 15:11:53 1999 --- hostname.1 Mon Dec 20 16:33:58 1999 *************** *** 50,55 **** --- 50,59 ---- .Pa /etc/rc.network , normally run at boot time. + The preferred method of setting the hostname is by defining the variable + .Va hostname + in + .Pa /etc/rc.conf . .Pp Options: .Bl -tag -width flag *************** *** 58,64 **** name. .El .Sh SEE ALSO ! .Xr gethostname 3 .Sh HISTORY The .Nm --- 62,69 ---- name. .El .Sh SEE ALSO ! .Xr gethostname 3 , ! .Xr rc.conf 5 .Sh HISTORY The .Nm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 17:50:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3D814A18 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA89417; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912210150.RAA89417@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: John Baldwin Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Reply-To: John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14319; it has been noted by GNATS. From: John Baldwin To: William Richard Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:47:14 -0500 (EST) On 21-Dec-99 William Richard wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/14319; it has been noted by GNATS. > > Here's a patch: > > *** hostname.1.old Mon Dec 20 15:11:53 1999 > --- hostname.1 Mon Dec 20 16:33:58 1999 > *************** > *** 50,55 **** > --- 50,59 ---- > .Pa /etc/rc.network , > normally run at boot > time. > + The preferred method of setting the hostname is by defining the variable > + .Va hostname > + in > + .Pa /etc/rc.conf . How about this wording: The hostname should be set by defining the .Va hostname variable in .Pa /etc/rc.conf . - or - The preferred method of setting the hostname is defining the variable .Va hostname in .Pa /etc/cr.conf . I don't think 'by defining...' is a valid direct object, it needs to be an infinitive (IIRC), i.e. 'to define' or a gerund, i.e. 'defining'. (I may have the terms messed up, but I believe the examples are accurate). -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 17:53: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA142151D0; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:53:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FN2004X2IKFOW@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:53:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15517; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:55:46 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:55:45 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf In-reply-to: <199912210150.RAA89417@freefall.freebsd.org> To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991220195545.R6167@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <199912210150.RAA89417@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 20, 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > The preferred method of setting the hostname is defining the variable > .Va hostname > in > .Pa /etc/cr.conf . > > I don't think 'by defining...' is a valid direct object, it needs to be an > infinitive (IIRC), i.e. 'to define' or a gerund, i.e. 'defining'. (I may have > the terms messed up, but I believe the examples are accurate). Why don't you put an adverb in that description? Like "permenantly." -- |Chris Costello |Any small object when dropped will hide under a larger object. `-------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 18: 0:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696FD15457 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA91406; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:00:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912210200.SAA91406@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: William Richard Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Reply-To: William Richard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14319; it has been noted by GNATS. From: William Richard To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:52:23 -0800 Whoops! This diff should point to src/bin/hostname/hostname.1. Darn. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 18: 3:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (ric-54.freedomnet.com [198.240.105.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5945115393 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA30246; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:04:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <199912210204.VAA30246@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19991220195545.R6167@holly.calldei.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:04:02 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Dec-99 Chris Costello wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 1999, John Baldwin wrote: >> The preferred method of setting the hostname is defining the variable >> .Va hostname >> in >> .Pa /etc/cr.conf . >> >> I don't think 'by defining...' is a valid direct object, it needs to be an >> infinitive (IIRC), i.e. 'to define' or a gerund, i.e. 'defining'. (I may >> have >> the terms messed up, but I believe the examples are accurate). > > Why don't you put an adverb in that description? Like > "permenantly." Hmm.. so this perhaps? To permanently set the hostname, define the variable .Va hostname in .Pa /etc/rc.conf to be the desired name of the host. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 18:11:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D021526F; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:11:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FN2006D6JFB32@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:11:36 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15640; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:14:18 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:14:18 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf In-reply-to: <199912210204.VAA30246@server.baldwin.cx> To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991220201418.T6167@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991220195545.R6167@holly.calldei.com> <199912210204.VAA30246@server.baldwin.cx> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 20, 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > Hmm.. so this perhaps? > > To permanently set the hostname, define the variable > .Va hostname > in > .Pa /etc/rc.conf > to be the desired name of the host. I can agree with that. If you need someone to take the blame, I'll do it! (That means you can put 'Reviewed by: chris') -- |Chris Costello |After a number of decimal places, nobody gives a damn. `------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 18:17:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tdl.tdl.com (tdl.tdl.com [206.180.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AA5153CB for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wdr@tdl.com) Received: from tdl.com (pm5-109.tdl.com [206.180.234.109]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04572; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:16:36 -0800 Message-ID: <385EE31F.8E9A8772@tdl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:17:03 -0800 From: William Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris@calldei.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf References: <199912210150.RAA89417@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991220195545.R6167@holly.calldei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Costello wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 20, 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > > The preferred method of setting the hostname is defining the variable > > .Va hostname > > in > > .Pa /etc/cr.conf . > > > > I don't think 'by defining...' is a valid direct object, it needs to be an > > infinitive (IIRC), i.e. 'to define' or a gerund, i.e. 'defining'. (I may have > > the terms messed up, but I believe the examples are accurate). > > Why don't you put an adverb in that description? Like > "permenantly." I'm a writer, I should have caught this. How about: The canonical way to define the hostname at boot time is with the .Va hostname variable in .Pa /etc/rc.conf . Better? There's enough bad English in documentation, I didn't mean to bugger up by adding more. New diff (with a better path specification) coming up. FWIW, we don't use words ending in -ly; my writing teacher would thrash me. Cheers, William Richard wdr@tdl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 18:19:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51373153BC; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:19:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA62512; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:14:15 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:14:15 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: nik@freebsd.org, Doc Team Subject: Re: TRANS: w3m instead of lynx for plain text from DocBook? Message-ID: <19991221021414.A61675@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991214153042.B66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14424.3915.863570.71255S@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991216012410.G66677@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14428.51954.499006.22222V@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991219212723.C4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14430.21398.120089.86952F@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14430.21398.120089.86952F@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 01:04:38AM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 01:04:38AM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > From: Nik Clayton > > Foxfair bought up something I didn't make clear. I was expecting to use > > www/w3m, not ja/w3m, in the metaport. Is that OK? > > Yes, Foxfair's comment is reasonable. That's my selfish opinion, so > please ignore it. > > I've checked w3m's JAPANESE differences and most of them are L10N of > messages. I think we can handle Japanese encodings with www/w3m port > (of course I will check Japanese Handbook with www/w3m). That's great. Unless I've missed an announcement, we're still in ports freeze (someone correct me if I'm wrong). When Satoshi lifts the freeze I'll make the change. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 18:20:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BAC15393 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FN2007HKJU09B@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:20:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15719; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:23:08 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:23:07 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf In-reply-to: <385EE31F.8E9A8772@tdl.com> To: William Richard Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991220202306.U6167@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <199912210150.RAA89417@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991220195545.R6167@holly.calldei.com> <385EE31F.8E9A8772@tdl.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 20, 1999, William Richard wrote: > FWIW, we don't use words ending in -ly; my writing teacher would thrash > me. Excellent method of torture if I ever heard of one. (I typically do not use perfect English in my email either. :) -- |Chris Costello |Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares? `------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 18:30: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF87115403 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA93791; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from carbon.flatlan.net (carbon.flatlan.net [169.197.56.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DCC15280 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@carbon.flatlan.net) Received: (from nick@localhost) by carbon.flatlan.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA42506; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:20:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nick) Message-Id: <199912210220.TAA42506@carbon.flatlan.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:20:42 -0700 (MST) From: nick@flatlan.net Reply-To: nick@flatlan.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15597: man page lib/libc/sys/jail.2 has a typo Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15597 >Category: docs >Synopsis: man page lib/libc/sys/jail.2 has a typo >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 20 18:30:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Nicholas Esborn >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: flatlan, tucson, az, us >Environment: FreeBSD capella.systems.tus.azstarnet.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Dec 14 10:41:05 MST 1999 root@capella.systems.tus.azstarnet.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/CAPELLA i386 >Description: two typos (I think :) -- see below >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** lib/libc/sys/jail.2.orig Mon Dec 20 18:52:29 1999 --- lib/libc/sys/jail.2 Mon Dec 20 18:55:19 1999 *************** *** 62,68 **** .Dq Li path can be manipulated all the ways a root can normally do it, including .Dq Li "rm -rf /*" ! but new device special notes cannot be created because the reference shared resources (the device drivers in the kernel). .Pp All IP activity will be forced to happen to/from the IP number specified, --- 62,68 ---- .Dq Li path can be manipulated all the ways a root can normally do it, including .Dq Li "rm -rf /*" ! but new device special nodes cannot be created because they reference shared resources (the device drivers in the kernel). .Pp All IP activity will be forced to happen to/from the IP number specified, >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 19: 0: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09D614A18 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA96269; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:00:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912210300.TAA96269@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: William Richard Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Reply-To: William Richard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14319; it has been noted by GNATS. From: William Richard To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:52:54 -0800 How about this: *** src/bin/hostname/hostname.1.old Sun Aug 29 07:12:37 1999 --- src/bin/hostname/hostname.1 Mon Dec 20 18:46:18 1999 *************** *** 51,56 **** --- 51,61 ---- normally run at boot time. .Pp + The canonical way to define the hostname at boot time is with the + .Va hostname + variable in + .Pa /etc/rc.conf . + .Pp Options: .Bl -tag -width flag .It Fl s *************** *** 58,64 **** name. .El .Sh SEE ALSO ! .Xr gethostname 3 .Sh HISTORY The .Nm --- 63,70 ---- name. .El .Sh SEE ALSO ! .Xr gethostname 3 , ! .Xr rc.conf 5 .Sh HISTORY The .Nm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 19:40: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4743514BC9 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA99474; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199912210340.TAA99474@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Robert Watson Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Reply-To: Robert Watson Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14319; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Robert Watson To: William Richard Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:34:50 -0500 (EST) Wow, I'd forgotten about that PR. :-) Is this solution committed? If not, I'll go ahead and do that. On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, William Richard wrote: > Here's a patch: > > *** hostname.1.old Mon Dec 20 15:11:53 1999 > --- hostname.1 Mon Dec 20 16:33:58 1999 > *************** > *** 50,55 **** > --- 50,59 ---- > .Pa /etc/rc.network , > normally run at boot > time. > + The preferred method of setting the hostname is by defining the variable > + .Va hostname > + in > + .Pa /etc/rc.conf . > .Pp > Options: > .Bl -tag -width flag > *************** > *** 58,64 **** > name. > .El > .Sh SEE ALSO > ! .Xr gethostname 3 > .Sh HISTORY > The > .Nm > --- 62,69 ---- > name. > .El > .Sh SEE ALSO > ! .Xr gethostname 3 , > ! .Xr rc.conf 5 > .Sh HISTORY > The > .Nm > Robert N M Watson robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: AF B5 5F FF A6 4A 79 37 ED 5F 55 E9 58 04 6A B1 TIS Labs at Network Associates, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 19:44: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tdl.tdl.com (tdl.tdl.com [206.180.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2573A15062 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:44:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wdr@tdl.com) Received: from tdl.com (pm5-109.tdl.com [206.180.234.109]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11327; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:44:03 -0800 Message-ID: <385EF7A0.DFC985D@tdl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:44:32 -0800 From: William Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Watson wrote: > Wow, I'd forgotten about that PR. :-) Is this solution committed? If > not, I'll go ahead and do that. Please don't commit the one that you sent to me; there's a new one in the database. But I'm not sure if you should commit that one either; there's been some controversy over the right wording. I'm sorry, I don't know what etiquette demands in these situations; this is my first contribution to the project. (I'll cc: this to the -doc list) Cheers, William Richard wdr@tdl.com > On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, William Richard wrote: > > > Here's a patch: > > > > *** hostname.1.old Mon Dec 20 15:11:53 1999 > > --- hostname.1 Mon Dec 20 16:33:58 1999 > > *************** > > *** 50,55 **** > > --- 50,59 ---- > > .Pa /etc/rc.network , > > normally run at boot > > time. > > + The preferred method of setting the hostname is by defining the variable > > + .Va hostname > > + in > > + .Pa /etc/rc.conf . > > .Pp > > Options: > > .Bl -tag -width flag > > *************** > > *** 58,64 **** > > name. > > .El > > .Sh SEE ALSO > > ! .Xr gethostname 3 > > .Sh HISTORY > > The > > .Nm > > --- 62,69 ---- > > name. > > .El > > .Sh SEE ALSO > > ! .Xr gethostname 3 , > > ! .Xr rc.conf 5 > > .Sh HISTORY > > The > > .Nm > > > > Robert N M Watson > > robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ > PGP key fingerprint: AF B5 5F FF A6 4A 79 37 ED 5F 55 E9 58 04 6A B1 > TIS Labs at Network Associates, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 20 22: 0:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CFE153E5 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA10834; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E4015257 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:53:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA94195; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:58:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) Message-Id: <199912210558.AAA94195@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:58:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Crist J. Clark" Reply-To: cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15600: Undocumented option in restore(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15600 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Undocumented option in restore(8) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 20 22:00:02 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Crist J. Clark >Release: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: First noticed on a 3.3-STABLE system. Patch derived from 3.3-STABLE source. 2.2.8-STABLE and 3.4-RELEASE also are effected. >Description: While looking over the code for restore(8), /usr/src/sbin/restore, for other reasons, I noticed that there is code for a flag, -N, which causes the dump to be executed normally, except no changes are actually made to the disk, or whatever media is the desitnation for the restore. This option is not documented on the manpage. >How-To-Repeat: A search of the manpage shows no mention of flag, # man 8 restore | grep -- '-N' To see the flag in action, one can attempt to do a restore, # restore -xvNf /dev/rst0 And watch the usual messages go by, but no writes actually take place. If you are not so trusting, take a look at the source code and see for yourself before you try the above. >Fix: A patch to the restore manpage, restore.8: --- /usr/src/sbin/restore/restore.8 Sun Aug 29 21:57:27 1999 +++ restore.8 Tue Dec 21 00:39:21 1999 @@ -41,32 +41,32 @@ .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm restore .Fl i -.Op Fl chkmuvy +.Op Fl chkmNuvy .Op Fl b Ar blocksize .Op Fl f Ar file .Op Fl s Ar fileno .Nm restore .Fl R -.Op Fl ckuvy +.Op Fl ckNuvy .Op Fl b Ar blocksize .Op Fl f Ar file .Op Fl s Ar fileno .Nm restore .Fl r -.Op Fl ckuvy +.Op Fl ckNuvy .Op Fl b Ar blocksize .Op Fl f Ar file .Op Fl s Ar fileno .Nm restore .Fl t -.Op Fl chkuvy +.Op Fl chkNuvy .Op Fl b Ar blocksize .Op Fl f Ar file .Op Fl s Ar fileno .Op file ... .Nm restore .Fl x -.Op Fl chkmuvy +.Op Fl chkmNuvy .Op Fl b Ar blocksize .Op Fl f Ar file .Op Fl s Ar fileno @@ -311,6 +311,10 @@ This is useful if only a few files are being extracted, and one wants to avoid regenerating the complete pathname to the file. +.It Fl N +Do the extraction normally, but do not actually write any changes +to disk. This can be used to check the integrity of dump media +or other test purposes. .It Fl s Ar fileno Read from the specified .Ar fileno >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 0: 0:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 647) id D610414C57; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:00:15 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <19991221080015.D610414C57@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:00:15 -0800 (PST) From: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG (Wolfram Schneider) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [This is an automatically created E-Mail message from the daily webupdate cron job:] ===> handbook (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook && make FORMATS=html-split DESTDIR=/home/wosch/public_html/data/handbook all) for entry in applications.html auditors.html availability.html docs.html features.html register.html index.html internet.html mailto.html publish.html send-pr.html support.html where.html y2kbug.html robots.txt index.html ; do install -C -o wosch -g www -m 664 ${entry} /usr/local/www/data; done install: /usr/local/www/data/applications.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted *** Error code 71 Stop. make install failed: 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 3:20:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD6A14A2B; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 03:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA41416; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 03:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 03:20:18 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912211120.DAA41416@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nick@flatlan.net, asmodai@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15597: man page lib/libc/sys/jail.2 has a typo Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man page lib/libc/sys/jail.2 has a typo State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: asmodai State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 21 03:19:44 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.9 with some additions. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 4:24:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E270F15473; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:24:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA45440; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:33:58 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:33:56 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/releases/3.4R errata.sgml Message-ID: <19991221103356.A32887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Reply-To: doc@freebsd.org References: <199912210849.AAA27908@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199912210849.AAA27908@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Neil Blakey-Milner on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 12:49:25AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ cc'd, and followups set, to -doc ] On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 12:49:25AM -0800, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > nbm 1999/12/21 00:49:23 PST > > Modified files: > en/releases/3.4R errata.sgml > Log: > Change the title from 3.3 to 3.4, must've slipped through the > nik-filter. Cheers for that. While we're here -- it strikes me as being silly to maintain two copies of the release notes and the errata, one on the FTP site and one on the web site. It makes maintenance more complicated, and it's one more thing to break. I'd be happy to see the website just link straight to the FTP'able release notes and errata, rather than trying to 'pretty them up' with some HTML around them. Thoughts? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 4:24:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956F81548A for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:24:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA69106; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:22:24 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:22:24 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: bortzmeyer@debian.org, doc@freebsd.org, docbook@lists.oasis-open.org, sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr, dssslist@mulberrytech.com, oswg-discuss@oswg.org Subject: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements Message-ID: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Reply-To: doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks, There's quite a wide distribution on this message. Sorry about that, but quite a few people have expressed an interest in this sort of thing, so I'm trying to catch all of them. My apologies to those of you who receive this message multiple times. I've set followups to the FreeBSD Doc. Proj. mailing list, doc@freebsd.org. You don't need to be a subscriber to post there, and most people are in the habit of doing 'Reply to all', so you should stay in the discussion. Feel free to override this if you think your comment is only applicable to a particular list. In the FreeBSD and Linux documentation communities the problem of how to represent information that is only appropriate for one release of the code, or a limited range of releases, comes up occasionally. The common link is that we're all using DocBook (or modifications thereof) as our base DTD. Rather than reinvent the wheel for all our documentation projects, we wanted to come up with a mechanism that we could all use, to promote document interchange. The last time we discussed this, the general consensus was to add three attributes to every element in DocBook in our customisation layers. osversionmin osversionmax osversionequal The allowed content of these attributes was up to the individual projects concerned. For example, FreeBSD will probably use the CVS tags we lay down to denote individual releases, so sample DocBook text might look like This note contains text that is only appropriate for FreeBSD 3.0. or This example consists of text that only applies to FreeBSD 2.1 through all versions in the 2.2 branch. Debian might use Information only for the SLINK release. [ Apologies if that's a bad example, I'm not too cognescent of Debian release naming schemes ] We would then have a pre-processor that, given the name of a specific release, would run through the documentation, stripping out all the elements whose osversion* attributes didn't match that release, before handing the SGML over to a formatter like Jade. Attached is my first cut at implementing this preprocessor, for further comment. The processor is written in Perl, but should be fairly easy to understand. In addition, the processor uses some *SGML* modules from CPAN, not XML modules. You will need to download and install SGMLSpm-1.03ii.tar.gz from http://www.cpan.org/ first. You will also need DocBook 3.1 installed. This is probably not the best approach. My DSSSL isn't up to it, but I imagine that a DSSSL (or XSL) script to do the same thing would be better, in that it would reduce the number of tools required in order to build the docs. I would be very interested in someone reimplementing the logic of the code in DSSSL. Included is a customised DocBook DTD to add the new attributes, a sample book.sgml, the script, and a Makefile. Running the Makefile should generate new-book.sgml, with certain elements from book.sgml removed. Alter the Makefile to adjust the idea of which release you're building. Customising the script is trivial. For example, Debian users can 1. Duplicate create_freebsd_tags() as create_debian_tags(). 2. Replace the *ordered* list of FreeBSD tags in the new create_debian_tags() with an equivalent list of *ordered* Debian release tags (or release names, or whatever). 3. Alter book.sgml as necessary. 4. Alter the Makefile, replace '-o freebsd' with '-o debian', and change the -v value to reflect a Debian release name or tag. 5. make There are probably bugs. I haven't tested this preprocessor on a wide range of documents yet. Comments welcome. 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Tue, 21 Dec 1999 05:19:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp) Received: from srv2.cablecom.ne.jp by mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) id WAA24994; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:19:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.snipe.rim.or.jp by srv2.cablecom.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) id WAA13723; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:19:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp (localhost.snipe.rim.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by mail.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id WAA45562; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:19:50 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199912211319.WAA45562@mail.snipe.rim.or.jp> To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/releases/3.4R errata.sgml X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <199912210849.AAA27908@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991221103356.A32887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:19:49 +0900 From: Motoyuki Konno Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Nik Clayton wrote: > While we're here -- it strikes me as being silly to maintain two copies > of the release notes and the errata, one on the FTP site and one on the > web site. It makes maintenance more complicated, and it's one more thing > to break. > > I'd be happy to see the website just link straight to the FTP'able > release notes and errata, rather than trying to 'pretty them up' with > some HTML around them. o As FreeBSD committers cannot edit the file of FTP sites. o How about translated versions? on FTP site or WWW site? If English version is on FTP and translated versions are on WWW, it makes more complcated, I think. If both English version and translated versions are on FTP, how we (doc committers) edit the files on FTP site? o Since files on FTP sites does not exists in CVS repository, Translation teams have difficulty to know how/when the file is modified. For example, Japanese doc team uses a tool which compare the /www/en and /www/ja directory of CVS repository. o On the FTP site, files of the old releases will be deleted very soon. I think release notes of old -RELEASEs are very important. > Thoughts? I have a plan. 1. Put the FTP-site version of RELEASE NOTES and ERRATA into CVS repository ( for example, /www/ftp/X.X-RELEASE/ ). 2. Modify the /www/(en|ja|...)/release/X.XR/Makefile. Current: relnotes.sgml -> relnotes.html errata.sgml -> errata.html Fix: /www/ftp/X.X-RELEASE/RELNOTES.TXT -> relnotes.html /www/ftp/X.X-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT -> errata.html -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno mkonno@res.yamanashi-med.ac.jp (Univ) motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) Yamanashi Medical University http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 5:24:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9688514A2B; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 05:23:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 120PGC-000DX2-00; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:23:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:23:28 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Motoyuki Konno Cc: doc@freebsd.org, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/releases/3.4R errata.sgml Message-ID: <19991221152327.A51667@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <199912210849.AAA27908@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991221103356.A32887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <199912211319.WAA45562@mail.snipe.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <199912211319.WAA45562@mail.snipe.rim.or.jp> Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue 1999-12-21 (22:19), Motoyuki Konno wrote: > 2. Modify the /www/(en|ja|...)/release/X.XR/Makefile. > Current: relnotes.sgml -> relnotes.html > errata.sgml -> errata.html > Fix: /www/ftp/X.X-RELEASE/RELNOTES.TXT -> relnotes.html > /www/ftp/X.X-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT -> errata.html How about a script that automatically uses w3m or lynx to generate the text file, much like what we do elsewhere, which the script then puts on the ftp site? Would need some tweaking, but I think it could work. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 6: 4:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nexus.berkshire.net (nexus.berkshire.net [206.72.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127BD1550F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 06:04:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ndw@nwalsh.com) Received: from nwalshpc.berkshire.net (nwalshpc.nwalsh.com [140.186.114.234]) by nexus.berkshire.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA22248; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:04:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:04:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3822-Tue21Dec1999090416-0500-ndw@nwalsh.com> X-Mailer: emacs 20.4.1 (via feedmail 7 I) To: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements References: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Reply-To: Norman Walsh From: Norman Walsh X-URL: http://nwalsh.com/ X-TEOTWAWKI: 1 week, 3 days, 15 hours, 4 minutes, 34 seconds, and counting... Approved: Sys5.4 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:22:24 +0000" Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org / Nik Clayton was heard to say: | I've set followups to the FreeBSD Doc. Proj. mailing list, doc@freebsd.org. Another list for DocBook issues. | This is probably not the best approach. My DSSSL isn't up to it, but I | imagine that a DSSSL (or XSL) script to do the same thing would be better, | in that it would reduce the number of tools required in order to build the | docs. I would be very interested in someone reimplementing the logic of | the code in DSSSL. It would be non-trivial. Especially since it would have to vary from system to system. You're asking the stylesheet to do a fair number of things to determine if RELENG_2_1_3 is in between RELENG_2_1_0 and RELENG_2_2. Not impossible, it might even be a rewarding challenge to implement. I'd call it a two-star problem. I've solved enough of those in DSSSL to keep me quite content for this lifetime. And I'm working on some three star problems in XSL at the moment :-) Cheers, norm -- Norman Walsh | It is seldom that any liberty is http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | lost all at once.--David Hume Member, DocBook Editorial Board | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 6: 8: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp [202.248.199.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CBA14E32; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 06:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp) Received: from srv2.cablecom.ne.jp by mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) id XAA27477; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:08:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.snipe.rim.or.jp by srv2.cablecom.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) id XAA21397; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:08:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp (localhost.snipe.rim.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by mail.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id XAA48192; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:07:59 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199912211407.XAA48192@mail.snipe.rim.or.jp> To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/releases/3.4R errata.sgml X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <199912210849.AAA27908@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991221103356.A32887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <199912211319.WAA45562@mail.snipe.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:07:59 +0900 From: Motoyuki Konno Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > I have a plan. My second (and better, I think) plan: Why FTP-version of ERRATA is more official than WWW-version? 1. Edit the FTP-version as follows: o WWW-version is the official. o If you want to get the latest ERRATA, please read WWW. Good Point: o Simple. o Every committer who find a problem of -RELEASE can edit the ERRATA file. o I think almost all Internet user can access WWW. Otherwise, some user (inside the firewall etc.) cannot access the anonymous FTP site. Bad Point: o None? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno mkonno@res.yamanashi-med.ac.jp (Univ) motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) Yamanashi Medical University http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 8:21:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (ric-54.freedomnet.com [198.240.105.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CA614C59 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:21:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA71040; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:21:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <199912211621.LAA71040@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <385EF7A0.DFC985D@tdl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:21:16 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: William Richard Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Dec-99 William Richard wrote: > Robert Watson wrote: > >> Wow, I'd forgotten about that PR. :-) Is this solution committed? If >> not, I'll go ahead and do that. > > Please don't commit the one that you sent to me; there's a new one in > the database. But I'm not sure if you should commit that one either; > there's been some controversy over the right wording. I'm sorry, I > don't know what etiquette demands in these situations; this is my first > contribution to the project. Heh.. not really a controversy, a bike shed argument maybe. I was just curious as to what you thought of my last proposal: To permanently set the hostname, define the variable .Va hostname in .Pa /etc/rc.conf to be the desired name of the host. My personal goal for most of the docco (with the exception of sections 2 and 3 of the man pages, for example) is for it to be easily understood by newbies. Also, I don't know why your English teacher hates the (arguably) largest group of adverbs in existence, I've certainly never encountered that opinion before. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 9:17: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cnri.reston.va.us (ns.CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429C8154A7 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fdrake@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us) Received: from weyr.cnri.reston.va.us (weyr [132.151.1.174]) by cnri.reston.va.us (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13516; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fdrake@localhost) by weyr.cnri.reston.va.us (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id MAA24301; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:16:39 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14431.46583.222301.132344@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:16:39 -0500 (EST) To: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: bortzmeyer@debian.org, doc@freebsd.org, sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr, dssslist@mulberrytech.com, oswg-discuss@oswg.org Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements In-Reply-To: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 6) "Big Bend" XEmacs Lucid From: "Fred L. Drake, Jr." Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton writes: > I've set followups to the FreeBSD Doc. Proj. mailing list, doc@freebsd.org. > You don't need to be a subscriber to post there, and most people are in > the habit of doing 'Reply to all', so you should stay in the discussion. I'm definately not on that list, so a "Reply to All" or CC to me would be appreciated. > In the FreeBSD and Linux documentation communities the problem of how to > represent information that is only appropriate for one release of the code, > or a limited range of releases, comes up occasionally. The common link is ... > The last time we discussed this, the general consensus was to add three > attributes to every element in DocBook in our customisation layers. > > osversionmin > osversionmax > osversionequal This is probably pretty reasonable. My concern is that the attribute names imply that the constructs are only useful for OS versioning. I think this is likely to be useful for any large system; perhaps different names should be chosen? You may also want an attribute that allows specific version labels (NMTOKENS instead of NMTOKEN); perhaps "versionequal" should be "versionin"? -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. Corporation for National Research Initiatives To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 9:57:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FAE15519; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA38199; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:57:18 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912211757.JAA38199@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/7873: poor initial configuration and documentation of kernel resources frustrating! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: poor initial configuration and documentation of kernel resources frustrating! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Dec 21 09:55:54 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Looks like lack of documentation problem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 10:39:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742A015458 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:39:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15691; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:34:16 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:34:16 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements Message-ID: <19991221183416.A14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <3822-Tue21Dec1999090416-0500-ndw@nwalsh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3822-Tue21Dec1999090416-0500-ndw@nwalsh.com>; from Norman Walsh on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 09:04:16AM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 09:04:16AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote: > | This is probably not the best approach. My DSSSL isn't up to it, but I > | imagine that a DSSSL (or XSL) script to do the same thing would be better, > | in that it would reduce the number of tools required in order to build the > | docs. I would be very interested in someone reimplementing the logic of > | the code in DSSSL. > > It would be non-trivial. Does DSSSL not have an associative array type? > Especially since it would have to vary > from system to system. You're asking the stylesheet to do a fair > number of things to determine if RELENG_2_1_3 is in between > RELENG_2_1_0 and RELENG_2_2. I was envisioning a callback[1] that takes two or three parameters, and returns a boolean, indicating whether or not the element should be retained. The first parameter indicates the test required, either 'equal', 'min', 'max', or 'minmax', and parameters two and three are the attribute values as necessary. This callback could be one big if statement -- not particularly elegant, but it would work. The default callback (as supplied by your stylesheets ) would ignore the parameters, and return 1 all the time, so that all the elements are included. Customisation layers could then override this callback as necessary, and add their own processing as necessary. Of course, you've done more than enough already. Perhaps someone else feels up to the challenge? N [1] I am hereby exposing my ignorance of DSSSL. I don't even know if this term has significance in a language like DSSSL. -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 10:54:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79746154D0 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.194]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA6E18; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:54:29 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA51208; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:54:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:54:25 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Fred L. Drake, Jr." Cc: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org, bortzmeyer@debian.org, doc@freebsd.org, sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr, dssslist@mulberrytech.com, oswg-discuss@oswg.org Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements Message-ID: <19991221195425.C50448@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14431.46583.222301.132344@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <14431.46583.222301.132344@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us>; from fdrake@acm.org on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 12:16:39PM -0500 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991221 18:25], Fred L. Drake, Jr. (fdrake@acm.org) wrote: > > > represent information that is only appropriate for one release of the code, > > or a limited range of releases, comes up occasionally. The common link is >... > > The last time we discussed this, the general consensus was to add three > > attributes to every element in DocBook in our customisation layers. > > > > osversionmin > > osversionmax > > osversionequal > > This is probably pretty reasonable. My concern is that the >attribute names imply that the constructs are only useful for OS >versioning. I think this is likely to be useful for any large system; >perhaps different names should be chosen? > You may also want an attribute that allows specific version labels >(NMTOKENS instead of NMTOKEN); perhaps "versionequal" should be >"versionin"? Sorry if I ask a question that might be staring me in the face from your text (but I am not deep into DSSSL and relevant stuff, just DocBook and the tools). How will we make sure the version get their relevant info to make those decisions about what to include or not? Nik's solution involved a Makefile system with scripts. With the above I reckon you want to integrate it into DSSSL or relevant tools? Did I sound confused enough? ;) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Once sent from the Golden Hall... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 11: 4:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27E014D0B; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:04:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05220; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:04:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/releases/3.4R errata.sgml In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:33:56 GMT." <19991221103356.A32887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:04:40 -0800 Message-ID: <5216.945803080@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > While we're here -- it strikes me as being silly to maintain two copies > of the release notes and the errata, one on the FTP site and one on the > web site. It makes maintenance more complicated, and it's one more thing > to break. > > I'd be happy to see the website just link straight to the FTP'able > release notes and errata, rather than trying to 'pretty them up' with > some HTML around them. I agree - I've converted those docs to HTML by hand one too many times, and when I'm in a hurry to leave (like I was on Monday), sometimes I don't even do it at all and leave the chore to others (thanks Nik, BTW). We could stand to make this process more efficient. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 12: 0:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 647) id 35C3B14E05; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:00:25 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <19991221200025.35C3B14E05@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:00:25 -0800 (PST) From: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG (Wolfram Schneider) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [This is an automatically created E-Mail message from the daily webupdate cron job:] ===> handbook (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook && make FORMATS=html-split DESTDIR=/home/wosch/public_html/data/handbook all) for entry in applications.html auditors.html availability.html docs.html features.html register.html index.html internet.html mailto.html publish.html send-pr.html support.html where.html y2kbug.html robots.txt index.html ; do install -C -o wosch -g www -m 664 ${entry} /usr/local/www/data; done install: /usr/local/www/data/auditors.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted *** Error code 71 Stop. make install failed: 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 12: 2:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ravi.lums.edu.pk (ravi.lums.edu.pk [203.128.0.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C6214E7B for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:02:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 01020042@ravi.lums.edu.pk) Received: from ravi.lums.edu.pk (ravi.lums.edu.pk [203.128.0.4]) by ravi.lums.edu.pk (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA16280 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:01:37 +0500 (PKT) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:01:37 +0500 (PKT) From: Tiger <01020042@ravi.lums.edu.pk> To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Code Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would like to know where can I get explanation and documentation of freebsd source and if process migration has been implemented in Freebsd. I plan to work in freebsd environment but first I would have to understand the code. I would like to know who can help me in my objective. Are there any mailing list where one can get help in understanding code. How elaborate is the documentation of Freebsd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 12:54:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cnri.reston.va.us (ns.CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBA815090 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fdrake@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us) Received: from weyr.cnri.reston.va.us (weyr [132.151.1.174]) by cnri.reston.va.us (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15190; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fdrake@localhost) by weyr.cnri.reston.va.us (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id PAA26401; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:53:34 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14431.59598.635029.702475@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:53:34 -0500 (EST) To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org, bortzmeyer@debian.org, doc@freebsd.org, sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr, dssslist@mulberrytech.com, oswg-discuss@oswg.org Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements In-Reply-To: <19991221195425.C50448@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14431.46583.222301.132344@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us> <19991221195425.C50448@daemon.ninth-circle.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 6) "Big Bend" XEmacs Lucid From: "Fred L. Drake, Jr." Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai writes: > Did I sound confused enough? ;) Wow! ;-) > How will we make sure the version get their relevant info to make those > decisions about what to include or not? > > Nik's solution involved a Makefile system with scripts. With the above > I reckon you want to integrate it into DSSSL or relevant tools? I don't think my suggestion had anything at all to do with tools. Whether someone wants to do the DSSSL/XSL footwork to implement this sort of versioning or use a Python script is entirely up to them. The notion of "current version" and version ranges just seems much more general than only interesting for operating systems. If I build a large piece of software (say, a programming language), I might want to be able to maintain the documentation for multiple versions. Some text may apply to version <= X, and other text to version > X, but other changes are simply to fix typos or other errors, and are not version specific in any way. If I can then regenerate the formatted documentation for, say, the last three versions, that would certainly be useful for users who aren't upgrading for whatever reason. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. Corporation for National Research Initiatives To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 13:46:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web505.mail.yahoo.com (web505.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6CBD15511 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from god@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26657 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Dec 1999 21:46:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19991221214614.26656.qmail@web505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.224.169.134] by web505.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:46:14 PST Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:46:14 -0800 (PST) From: Mike s Subject: bugs in the handbook. To: doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, Maybe, just maybe, It is time for a team of "motivated" and "skilled" web developers with FreeBSD expertise to crank out a new web site entirely for the new year ( err, for the new year to come :-) ), Including a new handbook. Of course not trash the current handbook. FreeBSD has evolved so fast but it seems the Documentation has been left in the dust. I'm game, But only if people are serious and not going to say i will help and vanish. i sent this to -stable as well as the doc team mailing list since i haven't heard a peep out of the list in awhile. maybe we start a FreeBSD Portal on FreeBSD.com and leave FreeBSD.org running the way it is now. Just a thought.. love you all. God God@yahoo.com i am not subscribed to the list so please send a copy to me, thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 15: 4:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE76D15581 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by luna.cdrom.com (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id dBLN4qj03163 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:04:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:04:52 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Update on the handbook.. Message-ID: <19991221150451.A3134@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's the latest batch of updates with regards to the handbook.. o I finished up and committed the mail chapter earlier this week. Any comments on it would be appreciated. o Bill is nearing completion of the YP/NIS section of the advanced network chapter. o Joel Sutton has volunteered himself to rewrite the printing chapter. I'd like to take the opportunity to publicly thank him for stepping up to do this. Thanks Joel! :-) o I've been working on the installation chapter this week. I hope to have it done by Friday before I'm gone for Christmas. If anyone wants to be super-helpful and update the list of 'Supported Configurations' and fire it off to me, it would be hugely appreciated. As usual, if anyone wants to take the initiative and volunteer, let me know so I can keep track of what you'd like to work on. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 15:38:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tdl.tdl.com (tdl.tdl.com [206.180.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF3714DE7; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:38:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wdr@tdl.com) Received: from tdl.com (pm4-43.tdl.com [206.180.234.43]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01065; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:38:07 -0800 Message-ID: <38600F7C.D1ACE918@tdl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:38:36 -0800 From: William Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf References: <199912211621.LAA71040@server.baldwin.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > Heh.. not really a controversy, a bike shed argument maybe. I was just curious > as to what you thought of my last proposal: > > To permanently set the hostname, define the variable > .Va hostname > in > .Pa /etc/rc.conf > to be the desired name of the host. This, or the second one I followed up to the PR with. Commit either one, it makes no never mind to me. I think they're both fine; they both say what needs saying. > Also, I don't know why your English teacher hates the (arguably) largest group > of adverbs in existence, I've certainly never encountered that opinion before. Not so much "English teacher" as "creative writing teacher", and her (and my) primary complaint about adverbs is that they're some of the weakest words in the language. "He spoke loudly" just doesn't say as much as "He hollered" or "He bellowed". Thus I can't use adverbs in place of verbs without a mental override. I think reasonable people can disagree on whether "permanently set" says more or less than "configure at boot time". For a man page, this is all hair-splittery (and this isn't the freebsd-bondage-and-discipline-english-usage list). Commit the one you think is best (you have commit privileges, n'est pas?). (And of course, I had to bring this up *right after* 3.4-RELEASE came out. D'oh!) Cheers, William Richard wdr@tdl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 17:31: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29A814EA1; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:31:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA77284; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:31:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:31:04 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912220131.RAA77284@freefall.freebsd.org> To: robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14319: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 21 17:30:35 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fix was committed in rev 1.10. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 20:30:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baldcom.net (mail.BALDCOM.NET [205.232.46.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBE7153EA for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 20:30:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from azentner@baldcom.net) Received: from baldcom.net [205.232.46.222] by mail.baldcom.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4D6B20C0116; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:34:30 -0500 Message-ID: <386053C4.96D9B68B@baldcom.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:29:56 -0500 From: Al Zentner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: I need the hand book in plain text Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello is it possible to get the hand book in plain txt I need to have a copy by my computer so I can get it working better and so I can figure out what im doing thanks tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 21 22:16:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713D715049 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:16:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.129]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA144D; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:16:31 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA59503; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:09:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:09:23 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Fred L. Drake, Jr." Cc: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org, bortzmeyer@debian.org, doc@freebsd.org, sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr, dssslist@mulberrytech.com, oswg-discuss@oswg.org Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements Message-ID: <19991222070923.B59486@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14431.46583.222301.132344@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us> <19991221195425.C50448@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <14431.59598.635029.702475@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <14431.59598.635029.702475@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us>; from fdrake@acm.org on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 03:53:34PM -0500 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991222 00:00], Fred L. Drake, Jr. (fdrake@acm.org) wrote: >Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai writes: > > How will we make sure the version get their relevant info to make those > > decisions about what to include or not? > > > > Nik's solution involved a Makefile system with scripts. With the above > > I reckon you want to integrate it into DSSSL or relevant tools? > > I don't think my suggestion had anything at all to do with tools. >Whether someone wants to do the DSSSL/XSL footwork to implement this >sort of versioning or use a Python script is entirely up to them. The >notion of "current version" and version ranges just seems much more >general than only interesting for operating systems. If I build a >large piece of software (say, a programming language), I might want to >be able to maintain the documentation for multiple versions. Some >text may apply to version <= X, and other text to version > X, but >other changes are simply to fix typos or other errors, and are not >version specific in any way. If I can then regenerate the formatted >documentation for, say, the last three versions, that would certainly >be useful for users who aren't upgrading for whatever reason. Sorry, I really failed to communicate properly. =\ I understand what Nik meant with his osversion (heck, I am one of the people whom he had discussed it with before ;). I think that reading Norm's mail prior to yours made me think that you also wanted to use DSSSL or whatever to accomplish these versioning tags (why? I really don't know, must be the flu still messing with my mind). What I understand in our FreeBSD and Debian cases is that we can use CVS to tag the appropriate piece of text and use those tags for the versioning. I am just wondering what solutions need to be thought of for projects not using CVS. In what way would they specify the versions and make sure these get used throughout the creation of the final documents. And that also wonders me, is all of that even possible with DSSSL (I am really a rookie with DSSSL) or other related languages/tools? Hope I sound less confused now. ;) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl] Documentation nutter. *BSD: Technical excellence at its best... The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Brother, let your Heart be wounded and give no Mercy to your fear... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 0:52:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E128A15057; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:52:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA14296; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:52:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA00692; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:46:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:46:40 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Tom Messmer Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: iso image Message-ID: <19991222094640.A601@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <38601794.8AF37D9A@planetout.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38601794.8AF37D9A@planetout.com>; from messmer@planetout.com on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 04:13:44PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-12-21 16:13:44 -0800, Tom Messmer wrote: > blah blah blah, im sure people have been nagging you already, but i dont > think the cd image is there at > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/3.4-install.cd0 Please use the 3.4-install.iso (.cd0 -> .iso) file instead. Thanks, Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 0:53:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nefertiti.pasteur.fr (nefertiti.pasteur.fr [157.99.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3BC14E10 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:53:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bortz@pasteur.fr) Received: from ezili.sis.pasteur.fr (ezili.sis.pasteur.fr [157.99.60.56]) by nefertiti.pasteur.fr (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id dBM8rET22472; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:53:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from pasteur.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezili.sis.pasteur.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) with ESMTP id JAA03202; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:53:46 +0100 Message-Id: <199912220853.JAA03202@ezili.sis.pasteur.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: ezili.sis.pasteur.fr: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be pasteur.fr X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: "Fred L. Drake, Jr." , docbook@lists.oasis-open.org, doc@freebsd.org, sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements In-reply-to: <19991222070923.B59486@daemon.ninth-circle.org> (Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai 's message of Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:09:23 +0100) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:53:45 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [List trimmed down a bit.] On Wednesday 22 December 1999, at 7 h 9, the keyboard of Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > What I understand in our FreeBSD and Debian cases is that we can use CVS > to tag the appropriate piece of text and use those tags for the > versioning. I am just wondering what solutions need to be thought of > for projects not using CVS. The proposed scheme has no relationship with CVS. The value of attributes osversion* is just CDATA and you can use anything which is meaningful for your project (making a project-independant numbering scheme is outside the scope of the current proposal). If there is a semantic, it is in the application (see next question). > And that also wonders me, is all of that even possible with DSSSL (I am > really a rookie with DSSSL) or other related languages/tools? I do it with Perl/DOM. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 1: 8:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181FD1541A for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:08:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA37868; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:08:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:08:13 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Mike s Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bugs in the handbook. Message-ID: <19991222100813.E37409@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <19991221214614.26656.qmail@web505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991221214614.26656.qmail@web505.mail.yahoo.com>; from god@yahoo.com on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 01:46:14PM -0800 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991221 22:50], Mike s (god@yahoo.com) wrote: >Maybe, just maybe, It is time for a team of "motivated" and "skilled" >web developers with FreeBSD expertise to crank out a new web site >entirely for the new year ( err, for the new year to come :-) ), The look and feel is not mine to determine. Prerequisites are that is good viewable with w3m and lynx. But I don't think it's easily changed at this point. We like to show stability and maturity with out look and feel of the website. Not just change the whole lay-out for the sake of change. Then again, I might be all wrong, and if that is what the community wants, then the community is allowed to state so. >Including a new handbook. Of course not trash the current handbook. >FreeBSD has evolved so fast but it seems the Documentation has been >left in the dust. You obviously haven't been paying attention. If you would have consulted the archives of this list you would see that Jim Mock and Bill Swingle are busy on rewriting chapters of the handbook. Chris Costello and me have been busy on the FAQ. >I'm game, But only if people are serious and not going to say i will >help and vanish. Feel free to create a prototype and ask for public opinion. >i sent this to -stable as well as the doc team mailing list since i >haven't heard a peep out of the list in awhile. -doc has been active all the time. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator bART Internet Services / Tel: +31 - (0) 10 - 240 39 70 VIA NET.WORKS Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 1:10: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27F515057 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:10:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA37878; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:09:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:09:56 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Jim Mock Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Update on the handbook.. Message-ID: <19991222100956.F37409@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <19991221150451.A3134@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991221150451.A3134@luna.cdrom.com>; from jim@luna.cdrom.com on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 03:04:52PM -0800 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991222 00:05], Jim Mock (jim@luna.cdrom.com) wrote: >As usual, if anyone wants to take the initiative and volunteer, let me >know so I can keep track of what you'd like to work on. Jim, my tasklist, which will be under projects on the webpage, will be ripped from the contrib section. So I guess I will be rewriting it in the prospect. Or at least make sure that part is out. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator bART Internet Services / Tel: +31 - (0) 10 - 240 39 70 VIA NET.WORKS Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 1:12:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD92714FFE; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:12:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA37922; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:12:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:12:22 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19991222101222.G37409@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <19991221200025.35C3B14E05@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991221200025.35C3B14E05@hub.freebsd.org>; from wosch@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 12:00:25PM -0800 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991221 21:05], Wolfram Schneider (wosch@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: >===> handbook >(cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook && make FORMATS=html-split DESTDIR=/home/wosch/public_html/data/handbook all) >for entry in applications.html auditors.html availability.html docs.html features.html register.html index.html internet.html mailto.html publish.html send-pr.html support.html where.html y2kbug.html robots.txt index.html ; do install -C -o wosch -g www -m 664 ${entry} /usr/local/www/data; done >install: /usr/local/www/data/auditors.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted >*** Error code 71 Where did this came from all of sudden? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator bART Internet Services / Tel: +31 - (0) 10 - 240 39 70 VIA NET.WORKS Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 2:14:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.letras.de (mail.letras.de [62.96.219.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879DC14D08 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:14:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dp@letras.de) Received: from letras.de (golem.letras.de [192.168.8.8]) by server.letras.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA23996 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:19:57 +0100 Message-ID: <3860A393.6BACDE0C@letras.de> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:10:27 +0100 From: Dirk Pahl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The link to the Sangoma ftp-server at http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html needs an update. -- ____________________________________________________ | | | Dirk Pahl LETRAS Informatik | | dp@letras.de http://www.letras.de | |____________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 7:54:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A40B14DB9; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:54:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA08205; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:54:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 07:54:16 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912221554.HAA08205@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asmodai@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nbm@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14165: FDP introduction article Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FDP introduction article Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nbm Responsible-Changed-By: asmodai Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Dec 22 07:53:44 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Let Neil use his commit bit to close his own PR's. =) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 9: 2:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from metrocon.com (metrocon.com [198.143.64.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333781552C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:02:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swolf@metrocon.com) Received: from swolf (access.metrocon.com [198.143.64.40]) by metrocon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA47198 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:02:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from swolf@metrocon.com) Message-ID: <007e01bf48b0$ea0fa100$f491b7c6@metrocon.com> From: "swolf" To: Subject: re:book Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:05:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007B_01BF4887.0091C040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BF4887.0091C040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please tell me how i can order the handbook ... ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BF4887.0091C040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BF4887.0091C040-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 10:40:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.korax.net (mail.korax.net [216.94.178.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB5214E12 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ean@korax.net) Received: from raven.korax.net (ean@raven.korax.net [216.94.178.7]) by mail.korax.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11002 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:40:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:40:42 -0500 (EST) From: Ean Kingston To: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Non-traditional Drives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I've been wanting to contribute something back to the FreeBSD project for a while now and in looking at the sections of the handbook that aren't done yet I found an area that I think I can get started on. This being the Section 8.3 Non-tradition Drives. I don't want to waist effort if someone else is working on it already. So I'm asking, is anyone working on the Non-traditional Drives section? -- Ean Kingston Just another faceless name on the Internet. URL: http://www.korax.net/~ean MAILTO: ean@korax.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 10:47:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B249614D6E; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA25044; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:47:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912221847.KAA25044@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rfg@monkeys.com, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14952: Missing man page (terminfo(5)) mentioned on tconv(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing man page (terminfo(5)) mentioned on tconv(1) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 22 10:45:51 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Peter impoerted latest version of the ncurses library. It contains terminfo(5)anpage To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 10:49:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B48FF14FC3 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 12554 invoked from network); 22 Dec 1999 18:49:46 -0000 Received: from userac84.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.131.28) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 1999 18:49:46 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA00559; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:49:44 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:49:44 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Ean Kingston Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: Non-traditional Drives Message-ID: <19991222184944.C322@marder-1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 01:40:42PM -0500, Ean Kingston wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been wanting to contribute something back to the FreeBSD project for > a while now and in looking at the sections of the handbook that aren't > done yet I found an area that I think I can get started on. This being > the Section 8.3 Non-tradition Drives. I don't want to waist effort if > someone else is working on it already. So I'm asking, is anyone working > on the Non-traditional Drives section? > Well, I started doing the section on Zip drives but have been rather pressed for time recently. I don't have a first-hand experience of using them but have been saving all the posts on the subject to cull info from. If you have a good knowledge of these then it would be better if you do this, if not I'd be happy to continue (and I'd better get my finger out and get it finished ;)). > -- > > Ean Kingston > Just another faceless name on the Internet. > URL: http://www.korax.net/~ean > MAILTO: ean@korax.net > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- "there's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture that allows you to install Windows too ;" -Matthew D. Fuller ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 11:14:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.korax.net (mail.korax.net [216.94.178.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDA515790 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:14:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ean@korax.net) Received: from raven.korax.net (ean@raven.korax.net [216.94.178.7]) by mail.korax.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12700; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:13:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:13:13 -0500 (EST) From: Ean Kingston To: Mark Ovens Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: Non-traditional Drives In-Reply-To: <19991222184944.C322@marder-1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Mark Ovens wrote: > Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:49:44 +0000 > From: Mark Ovens > > On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 01:40:42PM -0500, Ean Kingston wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been wanting to contribute something back to the FreeBSD project for > > a while now and in looking at the sections of the handbook that aren't > > done yet I found an area that I think I can get started on. This being > > the Section 8.3 Non-tradition Drives. I don't want to waist effort if > > someone else is working on it already. So I'm asking, is anyone working > > on the Non-traditional Drives section? > > > > Well, I started doing the section on Zip drives but have been rather > pressed for time recently. I don't have a first-hand experience of > using them but have been saving all the posts on the subject to cull > info from. If you have a good knowledge of these then it would be > better if you do this, if not I'd be happy to continue (and I'd better > get my finger out and get it finished ;)). > Ok, why don't you send me what you have so far. I have a parallel port Zip drive, will be purchasing a SCSI ZIP 250 drive soon and have access to an ATAPI drive for a couple more months. I think I can borrow a parallel port syquest drive (and maybe a scsi one). This would just leave the Jazz to guess at. I'm also going to need to find the procedures for submitting this. I read the blurb about the documentation project on www.FreeBSD.org but it sounds kind of vague. -- Ean Kingston Just another faceless name on the Internet. URL: http://www.korax.net/~ean MAILTO: ean@korax.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 11:20:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DAA155AB for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:20:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by luna.cdrom.com (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id dBMJJrp00654; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:19:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:19:52 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: swolf Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: book Message-ID: <19991222111952.A484@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <007e01bf48b0$ea0fa100$f491b7c6@metrocon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.1i In-Reply-To: <007e01bf48b0$ea0fa100$f491b7c6@metrocon.com>; from swolf@metrocon.com on Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 12:05:25PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 at 12:05:25 -0500, swolf wrote: > please tell me how i can order the handbook ... http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ It's not available in print.. yet. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 11:40:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626F0151B8 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:40:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by luna.cdrom.com (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id dBMJeau00990; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:40:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:40:35 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Al Zentner Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need the hand book in plain text Message-ID: <19991222114035.B484@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <386053C4.96D9B68B@baldcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.1i In-Reply-To: <386053C4.96D9B68B@baldcom.net>; from azentner@baldcom.net on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 11:29:56PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 at 23:29:56 -0500, Al Zentner wrote: > hello is it possible to get the hand book in plain txt I need to have > a copy by my computer so I can get it working better and so I can > figure out what im doing thanks ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook.txt.zip That one appears to be from back in August, however it should be better than nothing. On another note, I just built an up-to-date text version for you. You can get it gzipped from: http://www.freebsd.org/~jim/handbook/handbook.txt.gz or non-compressed from: http://www.freebsd.org/~jim/handbook/handbook.txt - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 12: 2:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 647) id 798CA14E70; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:02:12 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <19991222200212.798CA14E70@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG (Wolfram Schneider) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [This is an automatically created E-Mail message from the daily webupdate cron job:] ===> ru/docproj for entry in current.html doc-set.html sgml.html submitting.html who.html translations.html docproj.html ; do install -C -o wosch -g www -m 664 ${entry} /usr/local/www/docproj; done install: /usr/local/www/docproj/current.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. make install failed: 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 17:18:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 489C91579F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 15191 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 01:18:33 -0000 Received: from userbm76.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.145.28) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 01:18:33 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id BAA02706 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:18:42 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:18:42 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Correct tag to quote commands in the docs Message-ID: <19991223011842.B2347@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What is the correct tag to use for commands embedded in the text of a doc (article)? I mean in the context: "A good way of stress-testing your hardware is to run make world several times in succession" What tag would you use for ``make world''? Reading the FDP Primer (Example 4-35. Applications, commands, and options.) I think it is: make world Is this correct? -- "there's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture that allows you to install Windows too" -Matthew D. Fuller ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 18:31:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC4F156F0 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by luna.cdrom.com (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id dBN2TYL02286; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:29:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:29:34 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Mark Ovens Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Correct tag to quote commands in the docs Message-ID: <19991222182934.A2091@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <19991223011842.B2347@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.1i In-Reply-To: <19991223011842.B2347@marder-1>; from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org on Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 01:18:42AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 at 01:18:42 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > What is the correct tag to use for commands embedded in the text of > a doc (article)? I mean in the context: > > "A good way of stress-testing your hardware is to run make world > several times in succession" > > What tag would you use for ``make world''? > > Reading the FDP Primer (Example 4-35. Applications, commands, and > options.) I think it is: > > make world > > Is this correct? I'd say no. Using make world would be better since it's not really an application whereas something like.. "I use mutt as a mailer." Would be mutt since it's the actual application being discussed. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 22 22:38:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6903914EEA for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:38:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 21166 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 06:38:34 -0000 Received: from userbf87.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.142.108) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 06:38:34 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id GAA00577; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:38:30 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:38:30 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Jim Mock Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Correct tag to quote commands in the docs Message-ID: <19991223063830.B323@marder-1> References: <19991223011842.B2347@marder-1> <19991222182934.A2091@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991222182934.A2091@luna.cdrom.com> Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 06:29:34PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 at 01:18:42 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > What is the correct tag to use for commands embedded in the text of > > a doc (article)? I mean in the context: > > > > "A good way of stress-testing your hardware is to run make world > > several times in succession" > > > > What tag would you use for ``make world''? > > > > Reading the FDP Primer (Example 4-35. Applications, commands, and > > options.) I think it is: > > > > make world > > > > Is this correct? > > I'd say no. Using make world would be better since > it's not really an application whereas something like.. > > "I use mutt as a mailer." > > Would be mutt since it's the actual > application being discussed. > Thanks. > - jim > > -- > - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - > - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - -- "there's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture that allows you to install Windows too" -Matthew D. Fuller ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 2: 0:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E6F14F1E for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:00:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01408; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:45:53 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:45:52 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mike s Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bugs in the handbook. Message-ID: <19991222194552.D14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991221214614.26656.qmail@web505.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991221214614.26656.qmail@web505.mail.yahoo.com>; from Mike s on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 01:46:14PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 01:46:14PM -0800, Mike s wrote: > Maybe, just maybe, It is time for a team of > "motivated" > and "skilled" web developers with FreeBSD expertise to > crank out a new web site entirely for the new year ( > err, for the new year to come :-) ), Including a new > handbook. Of course not trash the current handbook. > FreeBSD has evolved so fast but it seems the > Documentation has been left in the dust. What, specifically, do you think is wrong with the current site? I've got my own list, but I've been quite close to the site for about a year, so I don't see it as more normal (or, perhaps, less 'abnormal' :-) ) users do. Specific suggestions would be welcome. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 2: 2: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D789014C36 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:01:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01604; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:47:26 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:47:26 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Tiger <01020042@ravi.lums.edu.pk> Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Code Message-ID: <19991222194726.E14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Tiger on Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 01:01:37AM +0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 01:01:37AM +0500, Tiger wrote: > I would like to know where can I get explanation and documentation of > freebsd source and if process migration has been implemented in Freebsd. I > plan to work in freebsd environment but first I would have to understand > the code. I would like to know who can help me in my objective. Are there > any mailing list where one can get help in understanding code. How > elaborate is the documentation of Freebsd. Specific questions should probably be directed to the hackers@FreeBSD.org mailing list. Things like this tend to be documented in the code itself, or in the manual pages. If you find a poorly documented section, and struggle through to understand it, we would appreciate any comments (or documentation) you would like to submit. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 2: 3:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79900155C6; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:03:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01672; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:47:56 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:47:56 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: Wolfram Schneider , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19991222194756.F14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991221200025.35C3B14E05@hub.freebsd.org> <19991222101222.G37409@lucifer.bart.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991222101222.G37409@lucifer.bart.nl>; from Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven on Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:12:22AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:12:22AM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [19991221 21:05], Wolfram Schneider (wosch@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: > >===> handbook > >(cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook && make FORMATS=html-split DESTDIR=/home/wosch/public_html/data/handbook all) > >for entry in applications.html auditors.html availability.html docs.html features.html register.html index.html internet.html mailto.html publish.html send-pr.html support.html where.html y2kbug.html robots.txt index.html ; do install -C -o wosch -g www -m 664 ${entry} /usr/local/www/data; done > >install: /usr/local/www/data/auditors.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted > >*** Error code 71 > > Where did this came from all of sudden? Me, I think, when I did a special build of the site to get the 3.4 release information out. I'll fix it later this evening. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 2: 3:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F3A155FB for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01167; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:44:04 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:44:04 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Ean Kingston Cc: Mark Ovens , FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: Non-traditional Drives Message-ID: <19991222194404.C14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991222184944.C322@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Ean Kingston on Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 02:13:13PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 02:13:13PM -0500, Ean Kingston wrote: > Ok, why don't you send me what you have so far. I have a parallel port > Zip drive, will be purchasing a SCSI ZIP 250 drive soon and have access to > an ATAPI drive for a couple more months. I think I can borrow a parallel > port syquest drive (and maybe a scsi one). This would just leave the Jazz > to guess at. Sounds good. > I'm also going to need to find the procedures for submitting this. I read > the blurb about the documentation project on www.FreeBSD.org but it sounds > kind of vague. Write the documentation, submit it using send-pr. Preferred format for the docs is DocBook, lots of information at http://www.FreeBSD.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/ If that's the "vague" document you mention earlier, please let me know what isn't clear, and I'll do my best to update it. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 2: 4:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22E11560E; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03311; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:01:13 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:01:12 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Motoyuki Konno Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Neil Blakey-Milner , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/releases/3.4R errata.sgml Message-ID: <19991222200112.H14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199912210849.AAA27908@freefall.freebsd.org> <19991221103356.A32887@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <199912211319.WAA45562@mail.snipe.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199912211319.WAA45562@mail.snipe.rim.or.jp>; from Motoyuki Konno on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 10:19:49PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 10:19:49PM +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > o As FreeBSD committers cannot edit the file of FTP sites. > > o How about translated versions? on FTP site or WWW site? > If English version is on FTP and translated versions are on WWW, > it makes more complcated, I think. > If both English version and translated versions are on FTP, > how we (doc committers) edit the files on FTP site? > > o Since files on FTP sites does not exists in CVS repository, > Translation teams have difficulty to know how/when the file > is modified. For example, Japanese doc team uses a tool > which compare the /www/en and /www/ja directory of CVS repository. > > o On the FTP site, files of the old releases will be deleted very soon. > I think release notes of old -RELEASEs are very important. Good points. However, the ERRATA and other texts are in the repository, under src/release/texts. What's missing (I think) is a mechanism to automatically copy these files over to the FTP site (and the appropriate directory of the site) when they are committed to. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 2: 4:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6599D1556F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02247; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:52:39 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:52:39 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Fred L. Drake, Jr." Cc: docbook@lists.oasis-open.org, bortzmeyer@debian.org, doc@freebsd.org, sgml-tools@via.ecp.fr, dssslist@mulberrytech.com, oswg-discuss@oswg.org Subject: Re: DOCBOOK: Including OS Version information on DocBook elements Message-ID: <19991222195239.G14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991221122224.B75275@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14431.46583.222301.132344@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14431.46583.222301.132344@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us>; from Fred L. Drake, Jr. on Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 12:16:39PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 21, 1999 at 12:16:39PM -0500, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > > The last time we discussed this, the general consensus was to add three > > attributes to every element in DocBook in our customisation layers. > > > > osversionmin > > osversionmax > > osversionequal > > This is probably pretty reasonable. My concern is that the > attribute names imply that the constructs are only useful for OS > versioning. I think this is likely to be useful for any large system; > perhaps different names should be chosen? I'm open to dropping the leading 'os' from the attribute names. > You may also want an attribute that allows specific version labels > (NMTOKENS instead of NMTOKEN); perhaps "versionequal" should be > "versionin"? Also a good idea. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 2:33:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651AE14C36 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:33:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09823; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:24:41 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:24:41 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jim Mock Cc: Mark Ovens , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Correct tag to quote commands in the docs Message-ID: <19991223102441.B9006@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991223011842.B2347@marder-1> <19991222182934.A2091@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991222182934.A2091@luna.cdrom.com>; from Jim Mock on Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 06:29:34PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 06:29:34PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > make world > > > > Is this correct? > > I'd say no. Using make world would be better since > it's not really an application whereas something like.. > > "I use mutt as a mailer." > > Would be mutt since it's the actual > application being discussed. Agreed, except in that instance, I'd use something like I use Mutt as a mailer. The command to start Mutt is mutt. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 2:33:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF4314E26 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:33:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09435; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:21:39 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:21:38 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jim Mock Cc: Al Zentner , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need the hand book in plain text Message-ID: <19991223102138.A9006@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <386053C4.96D9B68B@baldcom.net> <19991222114035.B484@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991222114035.B484@luna.cdrom.com>; from Jim Mock on Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 11:40:35AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 11:40:35AM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 at 23:29:56 -0500, Al Zentner wrote: > > hello is it possible to get the hand book in plain txt I need to have > > a copy by my computer so I can get it working better and so I can > > figure out what im doing thanks > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook.txt.zip > > That one appears to be from back in August, however it should be better > than nothing. On another note, I just built an up-to-date text version > for you. You can get it gzipped from: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jim/handbook/handbook.txt.gz > > or non-compressed from: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jim/handbook/handbook.txt This (in theory) should be happening automatically. It's not. At the moment, I'm waiting for Jordan to hand over the keys to a machine we've got colocated at a US West POP somewhere. This machine will do very little except nightly builds of the documentation, and hosting the docs.freebsd.org website. Then the docs on the FTP site will be updated daily. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 3:34:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AD015613; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:34:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA57257; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:34:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:34:05 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Nik Clayton Cc: Wolfram Schneider , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19991223123405.Z38722@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <19991221200025.35C3B14E05@hub.freebsd.org> <19991222101222.G37409@lucifer.bart.nl> <19991222194756.F14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991222194756.F14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 07:47:56PM +0000 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991223 11:05], Nik Clayton (nik@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: >On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:12:22AM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: >> -On [19991221 21:05], Wolfram Schneider (wosch@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: >> >install: /usr/local/www/data/auditors.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted >> >*** Error code 71 >> >> Where did this came from all of sudden? > >Me, I think, when I did a special build of the site to get the 3.4 release >information out. I'll fix it later this evening. Nah, it now seems to fail in ru/docproj. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator bART Internet Services / Tel: +31 - (0) 10 - 240 39 70 VIA NET.WORKS Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 4:26:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858771560F; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA19171; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:24:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA16190; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:24:17 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:24:17 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: Nik Clayton , Wolfram Schneider , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19991223132417.B16091@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <19991221200025.35C3B14E05@hub.freebsd.org> <19991222101222.G37409@lucifer.bart.nl> <19991222194756.F14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19991223123405.Z38722@lucifer.bart.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <19991223123405.Z38722@lucifer.bart.nl>; from Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven on Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 12:34:05PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-12-23 12:34:05 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [19991223 11:05], Nik Clayton (nik@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: > >On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 10:12:22AM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > >> -On [19991221 21:05], Wolfram Schneider (wosch@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: > >> >install: /usr/local/www/data/auditors.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted > >> >*** Error code 71 > >> > >> Where did this came from all of sudden? > > > >Me, I think, when I did a special build of the site to get the 3.4 release > >information out. I'll fix it later this evening. > > Nah, it now seems to fail in ru/docproj. This is a new error ;-/ -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 5:22:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DC714E65; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 05:22:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@sonet.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19703; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:29:16 +0300 (MSK) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Message-Id: <199912231229.PAA19703@sonet.crimea.ua> Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19991222200212.798CA14E70@hub.freebsd.org> from Wolfram Schneider at "Dec 22, 99 12:02:12 pm" To: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG (Wolfram Schneider) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:29:15 +0300 (MSK) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, wosch@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > [this is an automatically created e-mail message from > the daily webupdate cron job:] > > ===> ru/docproj > for entry in current.html doc-set.html sgml.html submitting.html who.html translations.html docproj.html ; do install -C -o wosch -g www -m 664 ${entry} /usr/local/www/docproj; done > install: /usr/local/www/docproj/current.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted What's reason of this problem ? I did not see any commits related to this problem. --- Sy, Alexey phantom@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 6:38:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.korax.net (mail.korax.net [216.94.178.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D1115623; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:38:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ean@korax.net) Received: from raven.korax.net (ean@raven.korax.net [216.94.178.7]) by mail.korax.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26770; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:38:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:38:47 -0500 (EST) From: Ean Kingston To: Nik Clayton Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: Non-traditional Drives In-Reply-To: <19991222194404.C14739@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:44:04 +0000 > From: Nik Clayton > > Write the documentation, submit it using send-pr. > > Preferred format for the docs is DocBook, lots of information at > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/ > > If that's the "vague" document you mention earlier, please let me know > what isn't clear, and I'll do my best to update it. Actually, I missed that one. I'm not sure how I managed to miss it. Looks like I've got some reading to do. Do you happen to have a pointer at flags for parallel ports? The last time I went through LINT it didn't mention flags but I know there are ways to optimize a parallel port for ZIP drives (I just don't know how it's done). All I've got to work with is the one bit of the LINT manual that says: # vpo Iomega Zip Drive # Requires SCSI disk support ('scbus' and 'da'), best # performance is achieved with ports in EPP 1.9 mode. Thanks for any help. Hopefully I'll have something for review soon. -- Ean Kingston Just another faceless name on the Internet. URL: http://www.korax.net/~ean MAILTO: ean@korax.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 6:47:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.korax.net (mail.korax.net [216.94.178.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1B8155D9; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:47:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ean@korax.net) Received: from raven.korax.net (ean@raven.korax.net [216.94.178.7]) by mail.korax.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27133; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:47:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:47:15 -0500 (EST) From: Ean Kingston To: Jim Mock Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: Update to mail section of the FreeBSD Handbook. In-Reply-To: <19991222115842.C484@luna.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Jim Mock wrote: > Our eventual goal is to sort of get rid of the FAQ and have everything > in the handbook. This will make all of our lives much easier since > there will only be one document to maintain. But then you lose some flexibility. You (er we) can put quick or temporary answers in the FAQ and have more time to refine documentation for the Handbook. Besides there are some question that are better answered in the FAQ. Things like "How did you split the distribution into 240k files" which may be of interrest but are a bit too specific for the handbook itself (IMHO). -- Ean Kingston Just another faceless name on the Internet. URL: http://www.korax.net/~ean MAILTO: ean@korax.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 6:47:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from citicorp.com (mango2-a.citicorp.com [192.193.196.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FEA15632 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from csaba.szigetvari@citicorp.com) Received: from myrtle1.citicorp.com (imta.citicorp.com [192.193.195.186]) by citicorp.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17428 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimosa.citicorp.com (mimosa.citicorp.com [192.193.249.136]) by myrtle1.citicorp.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25950 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from 169.162.141.88 (cszigetv-pc.bud.hu.citicorp.com [169.162.141.88]) by mimosa.citicorp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05706 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:47:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38624509.2B19@citicorp.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:51:43 +0000 From: Csaba Szigetvari Reply-To: csaba.szigetvari@citicorp.com Organization: citicorp X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: hungarian documentation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, based on the FBSD handbook this is the source to ask if the FreeBSD documentation is already translated or is being translated to hungarian language. Please reply a note on this. Thx, ---Csaba To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 8:37: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from serio.al.rim.or.jp (serio.al.rim.or.jp [202.247.191.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAA015A51; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:36:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from mail-relay.rim.or.jp by serio.al.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W/HMX-12) with ESMTP id BAA21622; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:36:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp534.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.184]) by mail-relay.rim.or.jp (3.7W/HMX-12) id BAA05387; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:36:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id BAA43750; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:36:52 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:36:50 +0900 Message-ID: <14434.20386.348631.57870H@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need the hand book in plain text In-Reply-To: In your message of "Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:21:38 +0000" <19991223102138.A9006@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <386053C4.96D9B68B@baldcom.net> <19991222114035.B484@luna.cdrom.com> <19991223102138.A9006@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Nik Clayton > At the moment, I'm waiting for Jordan to hand over the keys to a machine > we've got colocated at a US West POP somewhere. This machine will do very > little except nightly builds of the documentation, and hosting the > docs.freebsd.org website. Then the docs on the FTP site will be updated > daily. Can you prepare chroot'ed environment which has localized ports in it? Japanese Doc Team is trying to build PS version of the Handbook but that will need japanese/ptex-* and some other ports which may conflict non-localized version. I think other localization projects have same problem. If we got chroot'ed build environment, we can build localized doc packages. # But we cannot complete to build PS version, yet. :-) I hope that # will occur at near future. Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 8:50: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7715C1584C for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA93932; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from serio.al.rim.or.jp (serio.al.rim.or.jp [202.247.191.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86C215737 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from mail-relay.rim.or.jp by serio.al.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.7W/HMX-12) with ESMTP id BAA22314 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:44:13 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (pppb29.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.186.129]) by mail-relay.rim.or.jp (3.7W/HMX-12) id BAA06554 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:44:12 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19991224014332E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:43:32 +0900 From: horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org Reply-To: horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15649: ng_vjc.8 typo (``nodes'' should be ``hooks'') Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15649 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ng_vjc.8 typo (``nodes'' should be ``hooks'') >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 23 08:50:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: src/sys/modules/netgraph/vjc/ng_vjc.8 revision 1.5.2.4 (recent RELENG_3) and revision 1.7 (HEAD), commited on Dec 21, 1999. >Description: I understand that ``ip'', ``vjcomp'', ``vjuncomp'' and ``vjip'' are hooks of ng_vjc netgraph node. But in some place, these hooks are mentioned as nodes. I understand that ``vjc_ip'', ``vjc_vjcomp'', ``vjc_vjuncomp'' and ``vjc_ip'' are also hooks of ng_ppp netgraph node. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 8 ng_vjc >Fix: Apply following patch to src/sys/modules/netgraph/vjc/ng_vjc.8 revision 1.5.2.4 (recent RELENG_3) and revision 1.7 (HEAD). --- ng_vjc.8.bak Fri Dec 24 01:27:24 1999 +++ ng_vjc.8 Fri Dec 24 01:28:08 1999 @@ -52,15 +52,15 @@ compress TCP packet headers. The .Dv ip hook represents the uncompressed side of the node, while the .Dv vjcomp , .Dv vjuncomp , and .Dv vjip -nodes represent the compressed side of the node. Packets received on the +hooks represent the compressed side of the node. Packets received on the .Dv ip will be compressed or passed through as appropriate. Packets received on the other three hooks will be uncompressed as appropriate. This node also supports .Dq always pass through mode in either direction. .Pp @@ -81,23 +81,23 @@ .Xr ng_ppp 8 node, the .Dv ip , .Dv vjuncomp , .Dv vjcomp , and .Dv vjip -nodes should be connected to the +hooks should be connected to the .Xr ng_ppp 8 node's .Dv vjc_ip , .Dv vjc_vjcomp , .Dv vjc_vjuncomp , and .Dv vjc_ip -nodes, respectively. +hooks, respectively. .Sh HOOKS This node type supports the following hooks: .Pp .Bl -tag -width foobarbazi .It Dv ip Upstream (uncompressed) IP packets. .It Dv vjcomp @@ -149,15 +149,15 @@ When enabling compression, .Dv maxChannel should be set to the number of outgoing compression channels minus one, and is a value between 3 and 15, inclusive. Also, the .Dv compressCID field indicates whether it is OK to compress the CID field for outgoing compressed TCP packets. This value should be zero unless -either (a) it not possible for an incoming frame to be lost, or +either (a) it is not possible for an incoming frame to be lost, or (b) lost frames can be reliably detected and a .Dv NGM_VJC_RECV_ERROR message is immediately sent whenever this occurs. .It Dv NGM_VJC_GET_STATE This command returns the node's current state described by the .Dv "struct slcompress" structure, which is defined in >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 9: 2: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6E614E11; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:02:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA16513; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:00:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA21650; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:00:43 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:00:43 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG (Wolfram Schneider), freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19991223180043.A21580@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <19991222200212.798CA14E70@hub.freebsd.org> <199912231229.PAA19703@sonet.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199912231229.PAA19703@sonet.crimea.ua>; from Alexey M. Zelkin on Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 03:29:15PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-12-23 15:29:15 +0300, Alexey M. Zelkin wrote: > > [this is an automatically created e-mail message from > > the daily webupdate cron job:] > > > > ===> ru/docproj > > for entry in current.html doc-set.html sgml.html submitting.html who.html translations.html docproj.html ; do install -C -o wosch -g www -m 664 ${entry} /usr/local/www/docproj; done > > install: /usr/local/www/docproj/current.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted > > What's reason of this problem ? A wrong installation directory. The pages should be installed in /usr/local/www/data/ru/docproj, not /usr/local/www/docproj -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 10:53: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E79B156B4 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:53:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 18669 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 18:52:58 -0000 Received: from userbk54.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.144.62) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 18:52:58 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA00957 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:52:54 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:52:53 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Building the docs with make(1) in emacs Message-ID: <19991223185253.D327@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do I build the docs tree from within emacs? If, with /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml (or another doc sgml file) open in emacs, select ``Compile...'' from the Edit menu, change the default ``make -k'' in the minibuffer to ``make'', I get this in the *compilation* window: cd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/ make make: no target to make. Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 at Thu Dec 23 18:48:02 Thinking that emacs may be using it's own ``make'' (gmake?) instead, I tried using the full path ``/usr/bin/make'', but got the same results. What is the cause, and how do I fix it? -- "there's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture that allows you to install Windows too" -Matthew D. 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Thanks, Brandon Katcher FreeDiskSpace.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 12:20:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C65156AE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA15787; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1EA214F57 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:19:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 19550 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 20:19:38 -0000 Received: from userco81.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) 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(8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA01669; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:19:36 GMT (envelope-from mark) Message-Id: <199912232019.UAA01669@marder-1.> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:19:36 GMT From: Mark Ovens Reply-To: Mark Ovens To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15657: Addition to tunefs(8) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15657 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Document warning message in tunefs(8) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 23 12:20:02 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Ovens >Release: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Document a waring that tunefs(8) emits when enabling/disabling soft updates on an unmounted filesystem. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** tunefs.8.orig Thu Dec 23 19:01:03 1999 --- tunefs.8 Thu Dec 23 20:13:40 1999 *************** *** 120,125 **** --- 120,144 ---- .Xr dumpfs 8 manual page. .El + .Sh ERRORS + If + .Nm + .Fl n + is run to enable/disable soft update on an unmounted file system + after booting single-user then + .Nm + will output the warning + .Pp + reload\&: Invalid argument + .Pp + preceded by the raw device name. This occurs because the filesystem + is not currently mounted read-only. + .Nm + is trying to reload the incore (r*) device, but it was never loaded + to begin with. When you boot single user, only + .Dq / + is mounted, so all other filesystems will give you that warning. + It is completely harmless. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr fs 5 , .Xr dumpfs 8 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 17:28: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tdl.tdl.com (tdl.tdl.com [206.180.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF26314D47; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:28:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wdr@tdl.com) Received: from tdl.com (pm4-7.tdl.com [206.180.234.7]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26079; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:28:04 -0800 Message-ID: <3862CC40.1F050A33@tdl.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:28:32 -0800 From: William Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Morgan Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: CPU class not configured References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Mike Morgan wrote: > > I was working on 3.4-stable #1. When I finished making the kernel, > with 'by the book' procedures from http://www.freebsd.org/handbook. > I did modify the kernel before i did /usr/sbin/config mykernel, I > selected only the i586 type of CPU and commented out the others. After > doing fast boot, I ran into the following: > > CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (unknown class CPU) > > panic: CPU class not configured What kind of processor do you *really* have? Tell the truth, now. If it's a Pentium II (incl. Celeron), you should have specified "i686", not "i586". D'oh! > I did keep a copy of my old kernel. But, I can't seen to get it to > boot to it. (Yes, this is undocumented. cc'd to -doc) When the boot loader comes up (Press Enter to boot [kernel]), press any key except Enter, and type: unload This will kick your current (defective) kernel out of core, leaving a tabula rasa. Type: load kernel.old This moves your old (pre-3.4-STABLE) kernel into core. Type: boot Self-explanatory. That should bring up your old kernel, but it's no guarantee that this one will work either. So if it doesn't try kernel.GENERIC. If this doesn't work, you may be SOL. Good luck. Once you get your system up and running, immediately modify the kernel config file and recompile--do not pass GO, do not collect $200. Your 3.4-STABLE libraries and system utilities are not meant to work with your 3.x-RELEASE kernel. (Hey, -doc'ers! If this part of the Handbook isn't being re-written by anyone, I'll volunteer to at least write this part (booting an old kernel), if not the entire Build A New Kernel section.) Cheers, William Richard wdr@tdl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 23 17:40: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C6D150AA for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA38945; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 74DB914CD4; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:39:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19991224013954.74DB914CD4@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:39:54 -0800 (PST) From: wdr@tdl.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/15661: Handbook doesn't properly document booting other kernels Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15661 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook doesn't properly document booting other kernels >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 23 17:40:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: William Richard >Release: 3.4-STABLE >Organization: William Richard & Associates >Environment: FreeBSD wdr 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #21: Sat Dec 18 17:33:07 PST 1999 root@wdr:/usr/src/sys/compile/SAFFRON i386 >Description: The FreeBSD Handbook suggests that the proper way to boot to an old kernel (after mis-configuring an kernel rebuild, etc.) is to specify the name of the old kernel at the boot prompt. This is not correct in 3.4-STABLE (and probably hasn't been for some time before 3.4-STABLE). >How-To-Repeat: Bugger your kernel configuration into an unbootable state, then try to load an old kernel using the instructions in the handbook. >Fix: The proper method to boot an old kernel is to press any other key where asked to "Press Enter to boot [kernel], any other key for boot prompt", then type: unload load kernel.old boot I'll volunteer to re-write this section of the Handbook, if no one else is already in charge of this. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 24 1: 2:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rental01.kyoto.future-spirits.co.jp (rental01.kyoto.future-spirits.co.jp [210.229.32.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AAA14E49; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:02:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tooyama@247japan.com) Received: from tooyama (ns.dragon.co.jp [210.228.141.242]) by rental01.kyoto.future-spirits.co.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA02290; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:25:06 +0900 X-Authentication-Warning: rental01.kyoto.future-spirits.co.jp: Host ns.dragon.co.jp [210.228.141.242] claimed to be tooyama Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:20:59 +0900 From: "Tooyama.T" To: tooyama@247japan.com Subject: Japan Office Message-Id: <38632CEB26C.5BCDTOOYAMA@mailex.dragon.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="RnJpLCAyNCBEZWMgMTk5OSAxNzoyMDo1OSArMDkwMA==" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.06 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --RnJpLCAyNCBEZWMgMTk5OSAxNzoyMDo1OSArMDkwMA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain As I informed you a few days ago, IPO rush started to happen here in Japan... 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``hooks'') Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ng_vjc.8 typo (``nodes'' should be ``hooks'') Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->archie Responsible-Changed-By: asmodai Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Dec 24 03:17:00 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Netgraph is under active development by archie and julian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 24 4: 0:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC00514EDE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA99661; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id AC3601520C; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 03:51:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19991224115124.AC3601520C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 03:51:24 -0800 (PST) From: camel@avias.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/15664: a bug in src/UPDATING Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15664 >Category: docs >Synopsis: a bug in src/UPDATING >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Dec 24 04:00:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ilya Naumov >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT >Organization: NIIAVIA >Environment: FreeBSD camel.avias.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Dec 24 14:13:02 MSK 1999 root@camel.avias.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/CAMEL i386 >Description: there is a bug (or typo :) in src/UPDATING file of -CURRENT branch. 19991218: sendmail.cf has moved from /etc/sendmail.cf to /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. You may need to adjust /etc/rc.conf to cope as well as moving sendmail.cf. actually it should be /etc/rc instead of /etc/rc.conf >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 24 5:43:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76014151DD for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 05:43:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@sonet.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23002 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:50:27 +0300 (MSK) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Message-Id: <199912241250.PAA23002@sonet.crimea.ua> Subject: make www failed To: doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:50:27 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, looks like we have troubles with ja/ subtree now. ===> ja if [ -f ../en/./applications.sgml ]; then ../ja/revcheck .. . applications.sgml > applications.revinc; else touch applications.revinc; fi Bareword found where operator expected at ../ja/revcheck line 29, near "/\$FreeBSD: www/ja" (Missing operator before ja?) Unquoted string "ja" may clash with future reserved word at ../ja/revcheck line 29. syntax error at ../ja/revcheck line 29, near "/\$FreeBSD: www/ja" Unquoted string "revcheck" may clash with future reserved word at ../ja/revcheck line 29. Unquoted string "v" may clash with future reserved word at ../ja/revcheck line 29. Number found where operator expected at ../ja/revcheck line 29, near "v 1.1" (Do you need to predeclare v?) Number found where operator expected at ../ja/revcheck line 29, near "1.1 1999" (Missing operator before 1999?) Number found where operator expected at ../ja/revcheck line 29, near "23 01" (Missing operator before 01?) Bareword found where operator expected at ../ja/revcheck line 29, near "38 kuriyama" (Missing operator before kuriyama?) syntax error at ../ja/revcheck line 33, near "}" Execution of ../ja/revcheck aborted due to compilation errors. *** Error code 255 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. [73][ttyp6][phantom@freefall:~/test/www/en]$ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 24 10:13:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD03914C08; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:13:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FN900H1CBYBOE@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:13:24 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03742; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:15:48 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:15:47 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Alpha "minimum hardware requirements"? To: alpha@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991224121547.I70195@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since I'm rewriting the FAQ for 3.X, I'd like to include information about Alpha systems. Unfortunately, I can't find anything relating to the minimum requirements of hardware in any documentation. So can anyone point me in the right direction, or explain the 'least possible' system? -- |Chris Costello |EOOPS: We're sorry, our bad `---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 24 11:24:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668FD150BF; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpiazza@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from cpiazza@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA86523; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpiazza@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:24:56 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199912241924.LAA86523@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cpiazza@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, imp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15664: a bug in src/UPDATING Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: a bug in src/UPDATING Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->imp Responsible-Changed-By: cpiazza Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Dec 24 11:24:50 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 24 19:40: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691B415240 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA17699; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A784115231 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id EAA23692 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 04:35:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA66282; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 04:14:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy) Message-Id: <199912250314.EAA66282@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 04:14:38 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Weisgerber Reply-To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15678: Typos in mdoc.samples.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15678 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typos in mdoc.samples.7 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Dec 24 19:40:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christian Weisgerber >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Apparent typos in mdoc.samples(7). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- /usr/src/share/man/man7/mdoc.samples.7 Sat Dec 18 19:10:42 1999 +++ mdoc.samples.7 Sat Dec 25 01:39:28 1999 @@ -2293,7 +2293,7 @@ the indent (display) of one line of text. Its default font is set to constant width (literal) however -it is parsed and will recognized other macros. +it is parsed and will recognize other macros. It is not callable however. .Pp .Dl % ls -ldg /usr/local/bin @@ -2719,7 +2719,7 @@ if another item in the list is given with a different callable macro name, a new and nested list is assumed. .Sh PREDEFINED STRINGS -The following strings are predefined as may be used by +The following strings are predefined and may be used by preceding with the troff string interpreting sequence .Ql \&\e*(xx where >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 24 21:40: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAC0151AD for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA22259; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451CE14C47 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:30:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id GAA00426 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 06:30:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA67601; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 04:44:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy) Message-Id: <199912250344.EAA67601@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 04:44:15 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Weisgerber Reply-To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15680: Xref hosts.equiv(5) from r* man pages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15680 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Xref hosts.equiv(5) from r* man pages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Dec 24 21:40:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christian Weisgerber >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The rlogin.1/rsh.1/rlogind.1/rshd.1 man pages don't crossreference hosts.equiv(5), which makes it difficult for newbies to configure these r* commands. Other than adding the crossreferences and mentions in the FILES section where missing, the appended patch also changes .Pa $HOME/foo to .Sm off .Pa Ev $HOME /foo .Sm on in order to properly mark up the environment variable. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- /usr/src/libexec/rshd/rshd.8 Sat Sep 11 03:50:40 1999 +++ libexec/rshd/rshd.8 Sat Dec 25 04:32:15 1999 @@ -219,6 +219,7 @@ .Xr rcmd 3 , .Xr ruserok 3 , .Xr hosts 5 , +.Xr hosts.equiv 5 , .Xr login.conf 5 , .Xr nologin 5 , .Xr services 5 , @@ -230,7 +231,9 @@ .It Pa /etc/hosts .It Pa /etc/hosts.equiv .It Pa /etc/login.conf -.It Pa $HOME/.rhosts +.Sm off +.It Pa Ev $HOME /.rhosts +.Sm on .It Pa /var/run/nologin .El .Sh BUGS --- /usr/src/libexec/rlogind/rlogind.8 Sat Sep 11 03:50:35 1999 +++ libexec/rlogind/rlogind.8 Sat Dec 25 04:31:18 1999 @@ -170,13 +170,16 @@ .Xr login 1 , .Xr ruserok 3 , .Xr hosts 5 , +.Xr hosts.equiv 5 , .Xr nologin 5 , .Xr rshd 8 .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /etc/hostsxxxxxxxx -compact .It Pa /etc/hosts .It Pa /etc/hosts.equiv -.It Pa $HOME/.rhosts +.Sm off +.It Pa Ev $HOME /.rhosts +.Sm on .It Pa /var/run/nologin .El --- /usr/src/usr.bin/rlogin/rlogin.1 Sat Sep 11 04:02:00 1999 +++ usr.bin/rlogin/rlogin.1 Sat Dec 25 04:28:12 1999 @@ -194,6 +194,7 @@ .Xr ruserok 3 , .Xr tty 4 , .Xr hosts 5 , +.Xr hosts.equiv 5 , .Xr rlogind 8 , .Xr rshd 8 @@ -202,8 +203,10 @@ .It Pa /etc/hosts .It Pa /etc/hosts.equiv .It Pa /etc/auth.conf -.It Pa $HOME/.rhosts -.It Pa $HOME/.klogin +.Sm off +.It Pa Ev $HOME /.rhosts +.It Pa Ev $HOME /.klogin +.Sm on .El .Sh HISTORY --- /usr/src/usr.bin/rsh/rsh.1 Fri Nov 19 00:22:27 1999 +++ usr.bin/rsh/rsh.1 Sat Dec 25 04:27:20 1999 @@ -137,7 +137,11 @@ .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /etc/hosts -compact .It Pa /etc/hosts +.It Pa /etc/hosts.equiv .It Pa /etc/auth.conf +.Sm off +.It Pa Ev $HOME /.rhosts +.Sm on .El .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr rlogin 1 , @@ -148,6 +152,7 @@ .Xr rcmd 3 , .Xr ruserok 3 , .Xr hosts 5 , +.Xr hosts.equiv 5 , .Xr rlogind 8 , .Xr rshd 8 .Sh HISTORY >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 25 22:50: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DDD1519C for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 22:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA70899; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 22:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A7914E7F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 22:46:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@clara.co.uk) Received: from [195.8.82.118] (helo=myname.my.domain) by oracle.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1227RT-000JKe-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 06:46:12 +0000 Received: (from alex@localhost) by myname.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA00575; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 06:53:19 GMT (envelope-from alex) Message-Id: <199912260653.GAA00575@myname.my.domain> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 06:53:19 GMT From: alex@frustum.clara.co.uk Reply-To: alex@frustum.clara.co.uk To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15697: FAQ's Dial-up Sendmail information Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15697 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Outdated information about Sendmail's configuration >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Dec 25 22:50:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Aleksandar Simic >Release: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Under the chapter 7 of the FAQ, the question "How do I use sendmail for mail delivery with UUCP?" a user is advised on how to install the sources from the CD-ROM. The FAQ states: # cd /usr/src # tar -xvzf /cdrom/dists/src/ssmailcf.aa This is wrong since that directory does not exist on 3.3-RELEASE CD. And I have also been told that it is the same for 3.2-RELEASE. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: The proper way to extract the sources should be: After mounting the frist CD-ROM: # cd /cdrom/src # cat scontrib.?? | tar xzf - -C /usr/src contrib/sendmail >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message