From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 14 6:10:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34AA15331 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 06:10:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.224.36]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA3395 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:10:41 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15023 for isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:09:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:09:17 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Question(s) regarding uids Message-ID: <19991114150917.I14299@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am curious how my fellow FreeBSD-using ISPs are dealing with uids. Currently we can still maintain our users on the 3.2/3.3-STABLE uid maximum, but what if we get more than 99999 users? We are fast pushing to this limit. How have you all solved this? Hacked the sources to expand the uid? Also, how do you all manage the authentication of users? We currently use Radiator (a damn fine product if I may say so) plus some NIS on the side, but I want to get rid of NIS as much as possible and create seperate DB files for POP users, or even get our POP to use the radius authentication servers. But then I am still stomped on things like FTP, because users need an uid to have their homedirectories protected and all that. I hope you can enlighten me with some ideas. =) Thanks in advance, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best From Nothing comes only Nothing... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 14 8:25:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D31D14DDB for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.195]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA4FB7; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:25:32 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15361; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:56:35 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Benoit Rossier Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on DELL Poweredge 4300? Message-ID: <19991114165635.B15219@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <4.2.0.58.19991105142243.00b2af00@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991105142243.00b2af00@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991105 16:54], Benoit Rossier (Benoit.Rossier@mcnet.ch) wrote: >Has anybody experiences with DELL hardware and FreeBSD? > >We plan to use Poweredge 4300 servers. Nice choice, I used 6300's and 2300's with FreeBSD and I have had little problems. >I know that there is a beta driver for the controller >RAID perc2. Is it stable and can one test it? It appears to work pretty well, but without testing no-one can say for certain. Contact Mike Smith about the driver and its current stability. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Possession is nine points of the law. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 5:27:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0097814DA4 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:27:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 277; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:27:07 +0800 Message-ID: <38300A28.4DF7A0@fil.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:27:04 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windows nt References: <3829D437.F2F41176@macromedia.com> <012301bf2cc9$58ac51c0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org James wrote: > > Looking for a list for n/t 4.0. Do ya'll know any good ones for and isp > admin? > > Thank you > JaMes RufFeR III > Jr. Sys. Admin. > EmpireOne > 453-1111 Wow, as for me I am junking NT4 and learning FreeBSD. It is hard on an island all by my self (no other FreeBSD users), however I have converted five of our seven servers and now I spend 95% of my time with the two NT4 servers remaining - I'll be glad when they are gone! Perhaps you found the right list and need to junk NT4 instead - it worked for me! PS to all the others on this list. I read everything although I never post (except this once). It is a GREAT help to our little ISP, Thanks! aLan Tait To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 5:52:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFABD150B1 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:52:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 294; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:52:20 +0800 Message-ID: <38301010.E9BF0643@fil.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:52:16 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrew@scoop.co.nz Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Telehousing needed urgently in California References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You might try pair.com. I r Andrew McNaughton wrote: > > Our ISP in Wellington, New Zealand has decided to pull out of telehousing > at remarkably short notice, leaving us in the lurch. I'm looking into > alternative arrangements locally, but I expect to have to go offshore. > Traffic is expensive in NZ, and contra deals take time to arrange. > > I need an ISP with reasonable ping times to New Zealand, and a FreeBSD > background who can purchase and install a fairly generic freebsd machine, > and then leave me to it. I'd need to be sure I had emergency back up on > the spot, but would administer the machine myself. > > Traffic is currently around 250MB/day, and expected to double by the end > of the year and keep climbing at a somewhat slower rate thereafter. > > We need something like a PII, 128MB ram, 6GB 7200rpm drive. > > Could anyone interested please contact me ASAP with details of how you'd > approach this. I'd like to have something in production next week if it > can be done. > > Andrew McNaughton > andrew@scoop.co.nz You might try pair.com. I run a tiny ISP on an island in the Philippines, and use them for my web server outside of my network. I've tried four others, but this is the only one I've been happy with. They also slave (second) my outside DNS on those domains. aLan Tait To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 7: 3:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139B8150A9 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:03:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 192; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:02:52 +0800 Message-ID: <38302099.E1DFECB1@fil.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:02:50 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Duel Nic's Testing References: <38301010.E9BF0643@fil.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I run a tiny ISP on an island in the Philippines, with no one to talk to about FreeBSD! (Which means I have almost no money!) Right now I have converted some of our boxes from When?Doze-NT to FreeBSD (radius, bind 8, ftp and apache). I am now working on our the hardest problem yet, the firewall/filter. I have a Pentium 120 with 480 MB Hard Drive and 48 MB ram - that I want to use as a gateway. It has two Nics, a PCI NE2000 (outside) and a 3C905b-TX (inside), no problems getting these in (FreeBSD 3.3). rc.conf reads okay, bootup sees them too. Tomorrow I plan to load IPFilter, and then take on ALTQ for a little bandwidth control. Here is the problem... How do I test this... Without disrupting all our clients! Our little SBE router (I am not really routing and may be able to set this up as just a bridge - it supplies the needed high speed serial port), the router connects to a Microwave Radio to Manila (the lease line, now at 64 kbps, soon to be 128 kbps and I hope it will grow!). Our provider in Manila has a cisco with IP address: Manila serial port 1.2.98.10/30 Our Router serial port 1.2.98.9/30 Our Router address 1.2.102.1/23 (Gateway) Our Network 1.2.102/23 I can't touch the router at this time because of live traffic. If I set a couple workstations on the inside of this then set: the "inside" nick to 1.2.102.65/28 (which is vacant) the "outside" nick to 1.2.102.2/26 (which has the servers I need for testing) Will this work for testing? Or should I remove the 1.2.102.65/28 from the Ethernet of the router and "route" it to 1.2.102.2? Any Advise would be most welcome. aLan Tait PS I am also open for other suggestions. I chose IPFilter because, 1) the rules look like the rules in the SBE router (which I already understand some), 2) I want to stop people from getting into our site from the outside (they should be going to our mirror in the USA), 3) I want to redirect all outgoing port 80 traffic to a squid proxy, still to be built! I chose ALTQ because it allows any one customer to use are whole bandwidth if the others are not using it. I have enough IP's and I don't need any Network Translation. I was also looking at ipfw and dummynet, but couldn't find anything about allowing higher bandwidth when others are not using it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Why did I convert from Windows NT? Because of its name... When?Doze - I never knew When? it was going to Doze! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 14:46: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from continuity.necrosys.net (continuity.necrosys.net [207.229.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DA915169 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:45:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bvowk@necrosys.net) Received: from continuity.necrosys.net (IDENT:bvowk@continuity.necrosys.net [207.229.21.140]) by continuity.necrosys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA56380 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:45:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from bvowk@necrosys.net) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:45:53 -0700 (MST) From: Barkley Vowk To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: fsck and dropping to single luser mode problems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having a big nightmare with several co-located boxen dropping to single user mode on a reboot if the filesystems have the slightest problem, this is a REAL big deal because it means I have to drop everything and drive across town to clean up the FS and reboot the box. I was wondering if someone had a patch for the startup or an idea to keep this from happening? I'm not sure if it would be in my best interest to just force the box to mount the filesystems, but I can't keep doing this.. its not a good deal during midterms. Thanks in advance Barkley Vowk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 14:47:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275DF1517A for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D18D81C2B; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE68F3836; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:49:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:49:19 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Barkley Vowk Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck and dropping to single luser mode problems. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Barkley Vowk wrote: > I'm having a big nightmare with several co-located boxen dropping to > single user mode on a reboot if the filesystems have the slightest > problem, this is a REAL big deal because it means I have to drop > everything and drive across town to clean up the FS and reboot the box. I > was wondering if someone had a patch for the startup or an idea to keep > this from happening? I'm not sure if it would be in my best interest to > just force the box to mount the filesystems, but I can't keep doing this.. > its not a good deal during midterms. There was a patch floating around that made fsck just answer yes and keep on truckin' after a bad boot. Granted, this is quicker then it is smart. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 14:54:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B4F1518A for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:54:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01666 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:53:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:53:54 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck and dropping to single luser mode problems. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Barkley Vowk wrote: > I'm having a big nightmare with several co-located boxen dropping to > single user mode on a reboot if the filesystems have the slightest > problem, this is a REAL big deal because it means I have to drop > everything and drive across town to clean up the FS and reboot the box. I > was wondering if someone had a patch for the startup or an idea to keep > this from happening? I'm not sure if it would be in my best interest to > just force the box to mount the filesystems, but I can't keep doing this.. > its not a good deal during midterms. I'm not sure if the default behaviour has changed, but in 2.x it seemed to only drop to single user mode if there was a serious problem that the redundancy built into the file system couldn't automatically repair/recover. In fact 'man fsck' discusses this in some detail, now that I look... If it's dropping to single user mode then it's a relatively serious problem that cannot be repaired without some decision, I'm not sure that you would want to try to quietly ignore this - a missing (removed due to file system damage) or corrupted config/executable file could cause some very strange and hard to trace events to happen further down the track. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 15: 5:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ntserver.computronic.hu (ntserver.computronic.hu [194.38.126.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522E31518C for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:04:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andras.tudos@computronic.hu) Received: from thinkpad (dhcp1.c3.hu [194.38.96.1]) by ntserver.computronic.hu (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-44403U100L100S0) with ESMTP id AAA538; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:04:57 +0100 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991115235303.01cd6f00@computronic.hu> X-Sender: andras.tudos@computronic.hu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:03:14 +0100 To: Barkley Vowk From: "Andras Tudos - Computronic, C3" Subject: Re: fsck and dropping to single luser mode problems. Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, two ideas from our experience: 1) Keep the root partition for read-only stuff and use several partitions for everything else, like this: / /tmp /var ... 2) Use a terminal/console server (like a Cisco 2511) and redirect the console to the serial port on each servers Andras Tudos C3, Budapest At 1999.11.15 23:45, Monday, Barkley Vowk wrote: >I'm having a big nightmare with several co-located boxen dropping to >single user mode on a reboot if the filesystems have the slightest >problem, this is a REAL big deal because it means I have to drop >everything and drive across town to clean up the FS and reboot the box. I >was wondering if someone had a patch for the startup or an idea to keep >this from happening? I'm not sure if it would be in my best interest to >just force the box to mount the filesystems, but I can't keep doing this.. >its not a good deal during midterms. > >Thanks in advance >Barkley Vowk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 15:13:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B40A14A01 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:13:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 14954 invoked from network); 16 Nov 1999 00:03:29 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 1999 00:03:29 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991115150931.036c0f00@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 (demo) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:13:57 -0800 To: "Andras Tudos - Computronic, C3" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: fsck and dropping to single luser mode problems. In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991115235303.01cd6f00@computronic.hu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Both of these are good ideas. Additionally, you can use symbolic links to map /tmp, /etc, /var, Et Cetra to one filesystem if you need to. Often times it becomes a pain-in-the-ass to have seperate slices for each directory off the root. Also, we are using a nice Computone terminal server to do all our serial port consoles. Terminal servers can be had very cheaply now because they cannot be used provide 56k dialin access. At 12:03 AM 11/16/99 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >two ideas from our experience: > >1) Keep the root partition for read-only stuff and use several partitions >for everything else, like this: > >/ >/tmp >/var >... > >2) Use a terminal/console server (like a Cisco 2511) and redirect the >console to the serial port on each servers > >Andras Tudos >C3, Budapest > >At 1999.11.15 23:45, Monday, Barkley Vowk wrote: >>I'm having a big nightmare with several co-located boxen dropping to >>single user mode on a reboot if the filesystems have the slightest >>problem, this is a REAL big deal because it means I have to drop >>everything and drive across town to clean up the FS and reboot the box. I >>was wondering if someone had a patch for the startup or an idea to keep >>this from happening? I'm not sure if it would be in my best interest to >>just force the box to mount the filesystems, but I can't keep doing this.. >>its not a good deal during midterms. >> >>Thanks in advance >>Barkley Vowk > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 16:54:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EB51505B for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@caladan.tdx.co.uk) Received: from localhost (kpielorz@localhost) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Kp) with ESMTP id AAA46097; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:54:00 GMT Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:54:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Karl Pielorz To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Barkley Vowk , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fsck and dropping to single luser mode problems. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Barkley Vowk wrote: > > > I'm having a big nightmare with several co-located boxen dropping to > > single user mode on a reboot if the filesystems have the slightest > > problem, this is a REAL big deal because it means I have to drop > > everything and drive across town to clean up the FS and reboot the box. I If there that important, ever thought of a serial-console setup? (i.e. out-of-band management?) We use this here to great effect... So long as you pick a modem wisely, they quite often have a lot of security features built in, for verifying the caller before letting them get at your serial console (e.g. caller-id, callback etc.) When it fails in the future you could just dial it up, and fix it from afar... Just my $0.02's worth... -Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 17:28:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from moat.teksupport.net.au (moat.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEAE14E1E for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:28:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Received: from magician.teksupport.net.au (magician.teksupport.net.au [192.168.1.2]) by moat.teksupport.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16705 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:28:29 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991116112828.00b72470@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au> X-Sender: robseco@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:28:28 +1000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rob Secombe Subject: Virtual Private Networking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, We have been building firewall boxes for our customers using FreeBSD and various combinations of userland PPP, ipfw and natd for quite some time now. This gives us great flexiblity in terms of who gets access to what, across varied types and numbers of interfaces. We are now being asked to provide VPN solutions for private net to private net and roaming client to private net users. There are many commercial solutions available but all seem to have some form of limitation ie. they are hardware based (inflexible) or run on NT (yuk). I was wondering if some has come up with, or knows of a FreeBSD based answer, open source would be preferable but I certainly wouldn't exclude commercial packages. TIA Rob. BTW FreeBSDcon was great!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 20:35:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA7814C23 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:35:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21860; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:35:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-mdt.sentex.net (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA24628; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:35:23 -0500 (EST) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au (Rob Secombe) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual Private Networking Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:35:34 GMT Message-ID: <3830de18.658094710@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 15 Nov 1999 20:28:55 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >We are now being asked to provide VPN solutions for private net to private >net and roaming client to private net users. There are many commercial >solutions available but all seem to have some form of limitation ie. they >are hardware based (inflexible) or run on NT (yuk). I was wondering if >some has come up with, or knows of a FreeBSD based answer, open source >would be preferable but I certainly wouldn't exclude commercial packages. There are several in the ports/security section including one that works as a client or server with the NT implementation. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 21: 1:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE3614D22 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:01:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 291; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:01:33 +0800 Message-ID: <3830E52A.64728158@fil.net> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:01:30 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Welch Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Duel Nic's Testing References: <38301010.E9BF0643@fil.net> <4.2.1.19991116021126.05133650@arthur.intraceptives.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wow! Thanks, At least I am on the right track. > Well, thats a good start!!! > What about your email??? (Seriously consider something like QMAIL...) Yes, Email is on the priority list right after the NT Proxy dies. Which means right after squid is running (that box is lacking a part, checking for it daily). I plan on using using Qmail, with a web-based attachment for the Cafes. But the computer that will run it is the NT proxy and bad as it is, it is the best I have right now... So I am working on the FW as I have all the parts! > Yep, should be fine... Especially with your minimal bandwidth... (BW is > expensive here too!) It's good to have a 2nd opinion. I found an entry on the ALTQ site that said a P-1 200 MHz would handle full 100baseT speed, so I figured a 120 MHz ought to at least handle an E-1 > Ultimately, I think you're going to interrupt something along the lines... Yea, I realize that. I just want to get a little more "friendly" with it before I "cut the line". After I wrote that I realized I have an "unused" subnet that is mine, but my provider won't route it until I buy at least 512K. I'll use it for testing and then put it back later. The idea is to set the box up, then just change the IP's to the real ones and hopefully early some Sunday morning I won't effect very many at all (that is our one "dead time"). > > Unfortunately you're going to have to interupt the traffic somewhere along > the lines, to actually insert the box into the network. I'd kinda suggest, > looking at it a different way. If you want to use your existing devices, > you're going to have to subnet your network, which in my opinion is a waste > of addresses. An alternative is to use RFC1918 addresses between the > router and the outside interface of the firewall... > > This would be transparent (mostly) to your users, and blocks the outside > world from even trying to do funny things to the firewall... This is what > we do here. That is really a great idea. I'd never thought to do that! Although I plan later to replace the router (which only works when you blow a lot of cold air on it) with a serial card and let the FreeBSD box do our routing. What's to root? If it ain't on our network, put it on the microwave to SNMI! > > Should do, but as I mentioned, this will waste IP's which could otherwise > be used more productively... You'll also have to remember that you'll have > to route from one 1.2.102 subnet to get to another... Not that this is a > problem, but it does add... (Specially later when you might decided to use > dynamic routing protocols like RIP/OSPF and later BGP.) YES! I fully agree, I would rather leave my network at /23 and be done with it. I really like the idea of using the Intranet private addresses - adds another blanket of security and frees my addresses for my use. > > I'd get to doing the squid part real quick... This can, and probably will > lead to significant BW savings, especially if you can peer off a parent, > and considering the relative ease of setting this up, it's almost worth > doing before you get the FW fully up and running. Yea, I can see that - I am just waiting for a cable that you could go and buy in under an hour, it takes me three weeks to get or I have to make a two day trip via boat - ain't living in an island pair-o-dice grand! > The other thing I'd say, is that you should consider not redirecting HTTP > outbound traffic to the squid box. Some things don't pass through the > proxy transparently enough, and it actually works better if you get your > users to set proxy settings in their browser. What you can do, is redirect > the traffic to the proxy box, and get that to bounce it to an internal web > page describing to your users how to setup their browsers. (Take a look at > SquidGuard http://info.ost.eltele.no/freeware/squidGuard/ ...) I am looking at this and bookmarked it for when I start the squid box. I see what you mean. However, I think my upstream provider is transparent proxying my bandwidth already. I do have some HTTP problems and I am wondering what kind of problems transparent proxying causes??? Things I have complaints about are hotmail.com and mirc (maybe icq also according to my wife). > >I was also looking at ipfw and dummynet, but couldn't find > >anything about allowing higher bandwidth when others are not > >using it. > > No, you can't do it with dummynet... Aside from that, IPFilter is a much > better solution, and system. The other downside to IPFW is that you have > to setup separate daemons for every bandwidth allocation. Well that is one question I don't need to spend any more time thinking about... Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 15 21:51:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gdr.dhis.org (tm28.hypermax.net.au [203.46.36.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC27414DF7 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:50:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phil@ozxpress.com.au) Received: (from right@localhost) by gdr.dhis.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA07266; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:03:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from phil@ozxpress.com.au) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:03:45 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199911160303.NAA07266@gdr.dhis.org> X-Authentication-Warning: raven.gdr.dhis.org: right set sender to phil@ozxpress.com.au using -f From: phil grainger To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: phil grainger References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.10 Subject: Re: fsck and dropping to single luser mode problems. Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Barkley Vowk : > I'm having a big nightmare with several co-located boxen dropping to > single user mode on a reboot if the filesystems have the slightest > problem, > Thanks in advance > Barkley Vowk > hmmm my workaround was nowhere as elegeant as some of the other suggestions (my server is 1.5 hour drive away so rebooting is a real issue...) edit rc and change fsck -p line to fsck -y ... modify /etc/fstab and make large file systems (proxies etc.) noauto and load them manually, or via a shell script in rc.local ... phil grainger ozxpress.com.au user support services ----------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 0:37:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.interact.se (smtp1.interact.se [193.15.98.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC9D14CB8 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from je@interact.se) Received: from wolfie.interact.se (wolfie.interact.se [193.15.98.202]) by smtp.interact.se (InterACT Mailer) with ESMTP id JAA24669; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:38:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:37:03 +0100 (CET) From: Jonas Eriksson To: Rob Secombe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Virtual Private Networking In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991116112828.00b72470@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au> Message-ID: X-Mascot: Homer Simpson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you are going to run VPN with freebsd try one of theese: http://www.r4k.net/ipsec/ - IPSec port from OpenBSD to FreeBSD http://www.skip-vpn.org/ - From SUN (In the ports) http://www.kame.net/ - IPv6 and IPSec And the last option is to run ppp(tcp) over ssh. -- Jonas Eriksson On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Rob Secombe wrote: > Hi all, > > We have been building firewall boxes for our customers using FreeBSD and > various combinations of userland PPP, ipfw and natd for quite some time > now. This gives us great flexiblity in terms of who gets access to what, > across varied types and numbers of interfaces. > > We are now being asked to provide VPN solutions for private net to private > net and roaming client to private net users. There are many commercial > solutions available but all seem to have some form of limitation ie. they > are hardware based (inflexible) or run on NT (yuk). I was wondering if > some has come up with, or knows of a FreeBSD based answer, open source > would be preferable but I certainly wouldn't exclude commercial packages. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 0:41:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E2614EC6 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:41:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D2DB23E37; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:41:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:41:50 +0100 From: Jesper Skriver To: Barkley Vowk Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck and dropping to single luser mode problems. Message-ID: <19991116094150.B91862@skriver.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from bvowk@necrosys.net on Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 03:45:53PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 03:45:53PM -0700, Barkley Vowk wrote: > I'm having a big nightmare with several co-located boxen dropping to > single user mode on a reboot if the filesystems have the slightest > problem, this is a REAL big deal because it means I have to drop > everything and drive across town to clean up the FS and reboot the box. I > was wondering if someone had a patch for the startup or an idea to keep > this from happening? I'm not sure if it would be in my best interest to > just force the box to mount the filesystems, but I can't keep doing this.. > its not a good deal during midterms. Have a look at the PR I submitted about a week ago, conf/14791, this adds a new option to rc.conf, fsck_unattended, which if enabled changes the behaviour of fsck in /etc/rc from 'fsck -p' to 'fsck -p || fsck -y' /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 1:33:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arthur.intraceptives.com.au (arthur.intraceptives.com.au [203.22.72.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBEE714EC6 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:33:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwlists@intraceptives.com.au) Received: (qmail 63608 invoked from network); 16 Nov 1999 09:33:39 -0000 Received: from wks-pc1.intraceptives.com.au (HELO waddy) (203.22.72.32) by arthur.intraceptives.com.au with SMTP; 16 Nov 1999 09:33:39 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.1.19991116202804.00a90ab0@arthur.intraceptives.com.au> X-Sender: wwlists@arthur.intraceptives.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:33:38 +1100 To: Rob Secombe From: Warren Welch Subject: Re: Virtual Private Networking Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991116112828.00b72470@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:37 AM 11/16/99 +0100, Jonas Eriksson wrote: >If you are going to run VPN with freebsd try one of >theese: > >http://www.r4k.net/ipsec/ - IPSec port from OpenBSD to FreeBSD >http://www.skip-vpn.org/ - From SUN (In the ports) >http://www.kame.net/ - IPv6 and IPSec > >And the last option is to run ppp(tcp) over ssh. And just a couple of other alternatives:- http://vtun.netpedia.net/ - Lots of options & methods... And pipsecd in the ports collection (/usr/ports/net/pipsecd/)... This is REALLY REALLY easy to setup and get going... W. wwelch@intraceptives.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 3:51:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [212.174.120.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE17151F4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:51:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA39402 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:51:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:51:03 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: problem with the web pages of users Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We decided to have different machines for mail server and web server. Our problem is, when we have our web pages in the other machine and accounts in the other machine how can we still use www.ourweb.com/~username type addresses? I hope my english was clear enough. If not I may try to rewrite my problem. Thank you Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 4:58:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from home.pl (home.pl [195.205.230.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCCFC15214 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkg@halicz.com.pl) Received: from pa48.rzeszow.ppp.tpnet.pl (212.160.6.48) by home.pl with SMTP; 16 Nov 1999 12:58:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9650 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Nov 1999 11:03:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Nov 1999 11:03:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:03:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wiesiek Glod X-Sender: wkg@aba.mielec.rzesa.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What can I simple install ? ====================================================================== Wiesiek Glod wkg@halicz.com.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 7:41:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from memleak.kernel-panic.net (Memleak.Kernel-Panic.NET [206.186.193.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C29151C1 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fluke@memleak.kernel-panic.net) Received: from memleak.kernel-panic.net (fluke@localhost.kernel-panic.net [127.0.0.1]) by memleak.kernel-panic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA70140; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:39:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fluke@memleak.kernel-panic.net) Message-Id: <199911161539.KAA70140@memleak.kernel-panic.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with the web pages of users In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:51:03 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:39:06 -0500 From: fluke Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Hello, > >We decided to have different machines for mail server >and web server. Very good idea :) >Our problem is, when we have our web pages in the other >machine and accounts in the other machine how can we >still use www.ourweb.com/~username type addresses? I assume the mail server has all the users created and each of them has a real home directory? If so, install another apache on the mail server, called something like www2.ourweb.com (from your example..) and do something similar to this on www (in your srm.conf or equivalent:) RedirectMatch permanent ^/~(.+) http://www2.ourweb.com/~$1 This makes any URL that matches the regex to be sent back to the 2nd web server. Hmm I'm sure you could do something like use NIS and NFS export /home, but this is by far (IMO) the way to go if you don't want to change the network in place. Hope this helps. antoine >I hope my english was clear enough. If not I may try to >rewrite my problem. > >Thank you > >Evren > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 9:18:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [212.174.120.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A81E14D9E for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:18:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA44719; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:17:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:17:42 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Greg W Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with the web pages of users In-Reply-To: <199911170222030781.002DEF5E@mail.ausit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did not want to redirect people but I wanted them to be able to use www.mydomain.net/~username style homepage address directly. I thought the solution would be NFS and NIS but I was not sure. I wanted to know if there is somebody doing this thing with NIS and NFS... On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Greg W wrote: > use the redirect module option in Apache to redirect, or you can use a > javascript > > apache http://www.apache.org > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 16/11/99 at 13:51 Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >We decided to have different machines for mail server > >and web server. > > > >Our problem is, when we have our web pages in the other > >machine and accounts in the other machine how can we > >still use www.ourweb.com/~username type addresses? > > > >I hope my english was clear enough. If not I may try to > >rewrite my problem. > > > >Thank you > > > >Evren > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 9:25:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1810C14D64 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:25:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by cutter.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28414; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:25:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:25:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: Greg W , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with the web pages of users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org my users' home directories are all on a file system which i nfs mount to all of the servers...this includes the web server, where www.wantabe.com/~username works. cheers, jeff -- | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > I did not want to redirect people but I wanted them to be > able to use www.mydomain.net/~username style homepage address > directly. I thought the solution would be NFS and NIS but I was > not sure. I wanted to know if there is somebody doing this > thing with NIS and NFS... > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Greg W wrote: > > > use the redirect module option in Apache to redirect, or you can use a > > javascript > > > > apache http://www.apache.org > > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > > On 16/11/99 at 13:51 Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > >Hello, > > > > > >We decided to have different machines for mail server > > >and web server. > > > > > >Our problem is, when we have our web pages in the other > > >machine and accounts in the other machine how can we > > >still use www.ourweb.com/~username type addresses? > > > > > >I hope my english was clear enough. If not I may try to > > >rewrite my problem. > > > > > >Thank you > > > > > >Evren > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 9:32:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [212.174.120.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EC2151B7 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:32:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA49098; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:32:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:32:18 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: Greg W , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with the web pages of users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org But you also use NIS or not ? Evren On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > my users' home directories are all on a file system which i nfs mount to > all of the servers...this includes the web server, where > www.wantabe.com/~username works. > > cheers, > jeff > > -- > | > |\ +------------------------------+ > Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | > Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ > jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | > (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > I did not want to redirect people but I wanted them to be > > able to use www.mydomain.net/~username style homepage address > > directly. I thought the solution would be NFS and NIS but I was > > not sure. I wanted to know if there is somebody doing this > > thing with NIS and NFS... > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Greg W wrote: > > > > > use the redirect module option in Apache to redirect, or you can use a > > > javascript > > > > > > apache http://www.apache.org > > > > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > > > > On 16/11/99 at 13:51 Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > > > >We decided to have different machines for mail server > > > >and web server. > > > > > > > >Our problem is, when we have our web pages in the other > > > >machine and accounts in the other machine how can we > > > >still use www.ourweb.com/~username type addresses? > > > > > > > >I hope my english was clear enough. If not I may try to > > > >rewrite my problem. > > > > > > > >Thank you > > > > > > > >Evren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 9:47:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3313814C8F for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1806 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:42:07 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:42:06 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with the web pages of users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > We decided to have different machines for mail server > and web server. > > Our problem is, when we have our web pages in the other > machine and accounts in the other machine how can we > still use www.ourweb.com/~username type addresses? > > I hope my english was clear enough. If not I may try to > rewrite my problem. Sounds like you need to have accounts on both machines and sync the passwords. I'd recommend pushing the user portion of the password file from one to the other and completely avoiding NIS. The account on the mail server would allow for the MTA (sendmail/qmail/etc...) to deliver and POP or IMAP to allow the user to fetch email. The account on the web server would allow the www.../~user for viewing and FTP to let the user update the web pages. You could push the whole password file over, but I prefer to keep admin accounts static per machine in case an update fails or someone finds a chink in the armor... If you have more than a hundred users or so, you *really* need to consider a package like BillMax (www.billmax.com) which will automate almost the entire ISP operation cleanly and efficiently - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 12: 7:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9AA1529E for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:07:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by cutter.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29257; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:07:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:07:01 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: Greg W , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with the web pages of users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org no...i use a script that calls rdist to maintain the passwd and group files on several systems. cheers, jeff -- | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > But you also use NIS or not ? > > Evren > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > > > my users' home directories are all on a file system which i nfs mount to > > all of the servers...this includes the web server, where > > www.wantabe.com/~username works. > > > > cheers, > > jeff > > > > -- > > | > > |\ +------------------------------+ > > Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | > > Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ > > jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | > > (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ > > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > > I did not want to redirect people but I wanted them to be > > > able to use www.mydomain.net/~username style homepage address > > > directly. I thought the solution would be NFS and NIS but I was > > > not sure. I wanted to know if there is somebody doing this > > > thing with NIS and NFS... > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Greg W wrote: > > > > > > > use the redirect module option in Apache to redirect, or you can use a > > > > javascript > > > > > > > > apache http://www.apache.org > > > > > > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > > > > > > On 16/11/99 at 13:51 Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > > > > > >We decided to have different machines for mail server > > > > >and web server. > > > > > > > > > >Our problem is, when we have our web pages in the other > > > > >machine and accounts in the other machine how can we > > > > >still use www.ourweb.com/~username type addresses? > > > > > > > > > >I hope my english was clear enough. If not I may try to > > > > >rewrite my problem. > > > > > > > > > >Thank you > > > > > > > > > >Evren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 12:27:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280F314D22 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:27:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1573 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:27:08 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:27:06 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: Evren Yurtesen , Greg W , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with the web pages of users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I usually recommend just pushing user accounts and leaving an admin stub in the slave machines that gets user accounts added to it. It prevents a NULL or damaged passwd/group file from corrupting all your machines at once. (It has been done, 8{( thus this approach). As I remember rdist will allow you to run pwd_mkdb on the slaves. For security, you can use ssh as the transport, IIRC. - Jy@ On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > no...i use a script that calls rdist to maintain the passwd and group > files on several systems. > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > But you also use NIS or not ? > > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > > > my users' home directories are all on a file system which i nfs mount to > > > all of the servers...this includes the web server, where > > > www.wantabe.com/~username works. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 15:35:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7835714E1A for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:35:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (gunk.i-plus.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA58015; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:34:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Wiesiek Glod" , Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:34:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The easiest way I've found to install this combination, is to make patch on the apache13-php port (selecting mod-ssl and other modules as desired), then patch for FP2K, then make install Once installed, you'll need to go through the FP install script to configure your server. Have fun on that one. Info for it can be found at www.rtr.com Laterz, Troy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Wiesiek Glod > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 6:03 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php > > > > What can I simple install ? > > ====================================================================== > Wiesiek Glod wkg@halicz.com.pl > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 19:39:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B1314F93 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:39:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA87860; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:38:59 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Troy Settle Cc: Wiesiek Glod , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > The easiest way I've found to install this combination, is to make patch on > the apache13-php port (selecting mod-ssl and other modules as desired), then > patch for FP2K, then make install > > Once installed, you'll need to go through the FP install script to configure > your server. Have fun on that one. Info for it can be found at www.rtr.com How does one patch for FP2K? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 19:54:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E9414E20 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:54:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (gunk.i-plus.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA82683; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:54:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:54:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As provided in my earlier post, info for FP2K can be found at www.rtr.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@venus.GAIANET.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:39 PM > To: Troy Settle > Cc: Wiesiek Glod; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > > The easiest way I've found to install this combination, is to > make patch on > > the apache13-php port (selecting mod-ssl and other modules as > desired), then > > patch for FP2K, then make install > > > > Once installed, you'll need to go through the FP install script > to configure > > your server. Have fun on that one. Info for it can be found > at www.rtr.com > > How does one patch for FP2K? > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ > __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | > / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | > / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / > |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin > /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 21:45:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe23.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3081F15233 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:45:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from a_3shmaoy@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 56309 invoked by uid 65534); 17 Nov 1999 05:45:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19991117054549.56308.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [163.121.47.10] From: "3mr 3shmaoy" To: Subject: chroot for telnet accounts Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:45:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF30CF.C54D6350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF30CF.C54D6350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I's wondering how could I apply chroot for telnet accounts. Thnx in advance. Best Regards 3mr 3shmaoy ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF30CF.C54D6350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I's wondering how could I = apply chroot=20 for telnet accounts.
Thnx in = advance.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF30CF.C54D6350-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 22: 1: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240A914FF2 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:00:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11nwdk-00042z-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:24:16 -0800 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:24:15 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD NFS vs. a NetApp server? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone using FreeBSD to NFS mount filesystems from a NetApp filer? How well is this solution working for you? Do you use NFSv2 or NFSv3? Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 16 22: 7: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BF21500B for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:06:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA88456; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:06:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:06:33 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > As provided in my earlier post, info for FP2K can be found at www.rtr.com I thought you meant there was a different patch available. So basically, apache13+php should be compiled and installed with the mod_ssl and other options of choice and then apply FP2K from www.rtr.com over it? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 2:38:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD9014C09 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:38:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (gunk.i-plus.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA08520; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:38:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:37:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No. On the port, 'make patch' first. Then, apply the FP2K patch to the rest of the source. Once this is done, you can continue building the rest of the apache port and install. Once this is done, you need to install FP2K and configure. Or, if you want to skip the port, you can do it the hard way: fetch and build all the dependancies you need (mysql, rsaref, ssl stuff, etc) build PHP according to docs install PHP into the apache source patch the apache source for FP2K build apache install apache install FP2K configure FP2K configure Apache > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@venus.GAIANET.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 1:07 AM > To: Troy Settle > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > > As provided in my earlier post, info for FP2K can be found at > www.rtr.com > > I thought you meant there was a different patch available. So > basically, apache13+php should be compiled and installed with the mod_ssl > and other options of choice and then apply FP2K from www.rtr.com > over it? > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ > __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | > / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | > / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / > |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin > /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 2:47: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC14014D15 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:46:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA89696; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:46:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:46:36 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > No. On the port, 'make patch' first. Then, apply the FP2K patch to the > rest of the source. Once this is done, you can continue building the rest > of the apache port and install. Okay, where does one get the FP2K patch? Since if one was using the apace +php port, make would do the patching but without the FP2K patch. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Once this is done, you need to install FP2K and configure. > > > > Or, if you want to skip the port, you can do it the hard way: > > fetch and build all the dependancies you need (mysql, rsaref, ssl stuff, > etc) > build PHP according to docs > install PHP into the apache source > patch the apache source for FP2K > build apache > install apache > install FP2K > configure FP2K > configure Apache To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 3: 8:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3835C14DA9 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:08:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (gunk.i-plus.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA09274; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:08:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:07:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just how dense are you? Do you not understand what it means when someone is refering to FP2K, and says that "info for it can be found at www.rtr.com" ? This is the THIRD time I've posted this URL. Please go there and educate yourself before asking any more questions on this list. Installing Apache+php+ssl+frontpage+this+that+the_other, is really freakin simple. You read the directions for each item you wish to toss in, and apply those instructions at the appropriate time: Unpack, build, install dependancies Unpack all your sources patch as needed (ssl, fp2k, mod_perl, php, blah, foo, bar) build and install modules configure, build, install apache install and configure the rest of the packages (fp2k and ssl) configure and run apache Doing this with or without the port is really simple. Just follow the directions. If you're using a port to do most of the work for you, that's OK. You just need to make sure that you stop the port building process at such a time that you can toss your own stuff into it (make patch). > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@venus.GAIANET.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:47 AM > To: Troy Settle > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > > No. On the port, 'make patch' first. Then, apply the FP2K patch to the > > rest of the source. Once this is done, you can continue > building the rest > > of the apache port and install. > > Okay, where does one get the FP2K patch? Since if one was using > the apace +php port, make would do the patching but without the FP2K > patch. > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ > __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | > / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | > / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / > |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin > /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > > Once this is done, you need to install FP2K and configure. > > > > > > > > Or, if you want to skip the port, you can do it the hard way: > > > > fetch and build all the dependancies you need (mysql, rsaref, ssl stuff, > > etc) > > build PHP according to docs > > install PHP into the apache source > > patch the apache source for FP2K > > build apache > > install apache > > install FP2K > > configure FP2K > > configure Apache > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 3:41: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489F014C38 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA89908; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:40:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:40:39 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > Just how dense are you? Do you not understand what it means when someone is > refering to FP2K, and says that "info for it can be found at www.rtr.com" ? I know where the info can be found. > This is the THIRD time I've posted this URL. Please go there and educate > yourself before asking any more questions on this list. Installing > Apache+php+ssl+frontpage+this+that+the_other, is really freakin simple. You > read the directions for each item you wish to toss in, and apply those > instructions at the appropriate time: When there was Fp98, there was no such thing as a patch and the BSDI version of the FP98 extensions didn't install out of the box... that's when the apache12-fp port came in handy... That's why I was asking about the patch since you seemed to implied that FP2K was installed after apache13+php is already installed. In previous versions of apache, the apache was installed and all that was done was untaring the fp extensions tarball and that was it. > Unpack, build, install dependancies > Unpack all your sources > patch as needed (ssl, fp2k, mod_perl, php, blah, foo, bar) > build and install modules > configure, build, install apache > install and configure the rest of the packages (fp2k and ssl) > configure and run apache > > Doing this with or without the port is really simple. Just follow the > directions. If you're using a port to do most of the work for you, that's > OK. You just need to make sure that you stop the port building process at > such a time that you can toss your own stuff into it (make patch). Yeah, you have a point. I just didn't know rtr.com actually has a patch available since they only supported BSDI. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@venus.GAIANET.NET] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:47 AM > > To: Troy Settle > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > > > > No. On the port, 'make patch' first. Then, apply the FP2K patch to the > > > rest of the source. Once this is done, you can continue > > building the rest > > > of the apache port and install. > > > > Okay, where does one get the FP2K patch? Since if one was using > > the apace +php port, make would do the patching but without the FP2K > > patch. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ > > __ ____ > > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | > > / |[__ ] > > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | > > / | __] ] > > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / > > |/ / | __] ] > > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin > > /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > > > > > Once this is done, you need to install FP2K and configure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or, if you want to skip the port, you can do it the hard way: > > > > > > fetch and build all the dependancies you need (mysql, rsaref, ssl stuff, > > > etc) > > > build PHP according to docs > > > install PHP into the apache source > > > patch the apache source for FP2K > > > build apache > > > install apache > > > install FP2K > > > configure FP2K > > > configure Apache > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 5: 7:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7797214A06 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:07:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA76451 for isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:07:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <199911171307.IAA76451@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Apache & Java error on FreeBSD To: isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:07:36 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@gltg.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I tried -questions, heard nothing. You folks probably have a better idea than they do, anyway... I have a web server running 3.2-stable and apache-fp.1.3.6. Everything works fine, except the client-side Java apps. We call up a web site with a Java app, and get an error: date, etc, blah blah: File does not exist: /home/dynamic/public_html/data/DropMenu.class Looking in the directory in question, though, the file is *definitely* there. The same file works on an NT IIS box, but not here at all. Yes, we've checked filename case. ;) Do I have to do anything to get a FreeBSD Apache box to serve Java properly? Thanks, Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 5:51:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B597C14C0F for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06882; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:50:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:50:56 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: 3mr 3shmaoy Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: chroot for telnet accounts Message-ID: <19991117085056.B23467@intrepid.net> References: <19991117054549.56308.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991117054549.56308.qmail@hotmail.com>; from amostafa@misrnet.com.eg on Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 07:45:51AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 07:45:51AM +0200, 3mr 3shmaoy wrote: > I's wondering how could I apply chroot for telnet accounts. > Thnx in advance. There's a patch to login.c available: http://www.o-o.org/~licia/projects/login/ I've never used it, so I'm not sure it works with relatively current system, but it's only a few lines long, so it should be easy to get to apply to your system. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 6:34: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C874514CF1 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:33:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-Plus.net) Received: from localhost (st@localhost) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29223; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:33:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:33:56 -0500 (EST) From: Troy Settle To: Vincent Poy Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vincent, I've been using the FP extensions since 1997, and there has always been a patch that makes some minor adjustments to the base code, but is primarily just the frontpage module that gets built into the apache server. The BSDI binaries don't install right out of the box, but once you tell the installation script how to deal with FreeBSD (1 line edit in the install script), it installs without a hitch. -- Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services It's always a long day... 86400 doesn't fit into a short. On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > > Just how dense are you? Do you not understand what it means when someone is > > refering to FP2K, and says that "info for it can be found at www.rtr.com" ? > > I know where the info can be found. > > > This is the THIRD time I've posted this URL. Please go there and educate > > yourself before asking any more questions on this list. Installing > > Apache+php+ssl+frontpage+this+that+the_other, is really freakin simple. You > > read the directions for each item you wish to toss in, and apply those > > instructions at the appropriate time: > > When there was Fp98, there was no such thing as a patch and the > BSDI version of the FP98 extensions didn't install out of the box... > that's when the apache12-fp port came in handy... That's why I was asking > about the patch since you seemed to implied that FP2K was installed after > apache13+php is already installed. In previous versions of apache, the > apache was installed and all that was done was untaring the fp extensions > tarball and that was it. > > > Unpack, build, install dependancies > > Unpack all your sources > > patch as needed (ssl, fp2k, mod_perl, php, blah, foo, bar) > > build and install modules > > configure, build, install apache > > install and configure the rest of the packages (fp2k and ssl) > > configure and run apache > > > > Doing this with or without the port is really simple. Just follow the > > directions. If you're using a port to do most of the work for you, that's > > OK. You just need to make sure that you stop the port building process at > > such a time that you can toss your own stuff into it (make patch). > > Yeah, you have a point. I just didn't know rtr.com actually has > a patch available since they only supported BSDI. > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince@venus.GAIANET.NET] > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:47 AM > > > To: Troy Settle > > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > > > > > > No. On the port, 'make patch' first. Then, apply the FP2K patch to the > > > > rest of the source. Once this is done, you can continue > > > building the rest > > > > of the apache port and install. > > > > > > Okay, where does one get the FP2K patch? Since if one was using > > > the apace +php port, make would do the patching but without the FP2K > > > patch. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ > > > __ ____ > > > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | > > > / |[__ ] > > > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | > > > / | __] ] > > > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / > > > |/ / | __] ] > > > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin > > > /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > > > > > > > > Once this is done, you need to install FP2K and configure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or, if you want to skip the port, you can do it the hard way: > > > > > > > > fetch and build all the dependancies you need (mysql, rsaref, ssl stuff, > > > > etc) > > > > build PHP according to docs > > > > install PHP into the apache source > > > > patch the apache source for FP2K > > > > build apache > > > > install apache > > > > install FP2K > > > > configure FP2K > > > > configure Apache > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 7:52:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail-smtp.socket.net (mail-smtp.socket.net [216.106.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A9414EB0 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:52:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vaevictus@socket.net) Received: from mail.socket.net (mail.socket.net [216.106.1.7]) by mail-smtp.socket.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA14800 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:58:37 -0600 Received: from nathanm.office.socket.net ([216.106.0.22]) by mail.socket.net ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:52:35 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:49:06 -0600 (CST) From: Nathan Mahon X-Sender: vaevictus@nathanm.office.socket.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: DHCP, win95 clients and more fun. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Due to the type of service i'm issuing, our ADSL customers are invoking a peculiar situation. I'm working on getting ISC-DHCP working with our current situation: 1. all of these accounts are on unregistered ips, NAT translated... Each of the different dsl connections connect through a terminator, and each should be allowed it's own group (class C worth) of 10.X.X.X addresses. I've got an Ascend Max Terminator with all the 10.X.X.1 addresses for each of the DSL lines, and it does DHCP proxy for all the accounts. I've gotten this to work on NT, but you know how we all love NT. Anyway, I don't know if my configuration is poor or my routing is poor, so I'll attach everything below... Note: it works locally, notice the 10.0.0.x settings... but won't route them through the max terminator. Please help! :) vaevictus 10.0.0.5 -> local ip of the max terminator 10.0.0.2 -> ip of the dhcp server 10.0.0.1 -> outside gateway 10.0.2.1 -> sample max terminator interface for the dsl 10.0.2.2-255 -> ips for that dsl link Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 10/24 link#2 UC 0 0 xl1 10 10.0.0.5 UGSc 0 305 xl1 10.0.0.1 0:10:7b:84:bd:9b UHLW 0 104 xl1 1144 10.0.0.5 0:c0:7b:84:1f:c0 UHLW 1 0 xl1 619 10.0.0.105 0:40:33:5b:11:9 UHLW 1 1301 xl1 585 10.0.0.252 link#2 UHLW 2 2 xl1 255.255.255.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLSb 0 0 xl1 option domain-name-servers 216.106.1.2, 216.106.1.3; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option domain-name "socket.net"; subnet 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 10.0.0.252 10.0.0.253; option routers 10.0.0.1; option broadcast-address 10.0.0.255; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; } subnet 10.0.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 10.0.1.3 10.0.1.4; option routers 10.0.1.1; option broadcast-address 10.0.1.255; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; } subnet 10.0.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 10.0.2.3 10.0.2.4; option routers 10.0.2.1; option broadcast-address 10.0.2.255; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 8:42:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from birdie.sekure.net (sekure.net [193.15.98.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C6C14A01 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:42:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from je@sekure.net) Received: from localhost (je@localhost) by birdie.sekure.net (Sekure.Net Mailer) with ESMTP id RAA11081 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:42:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:42:16 +0100 (CET) From: Jonas Eriksson To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: PRI Cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What PRI/E1 Cards are supported in FreeBSD? -- Jonas Eriksson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 9:28: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (ns.mt.sri.com [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939D114D90 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:27:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17442; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:27:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA08676; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:27:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:27:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199911171727.KAA08676@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: mwlucas@gltg.com Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache & Java error on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199911171307.IAA76451@blackhelicopters.org> References: <199911171307.IAA76451@blackhelicopters.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I tried -questions, heard nothing. You folks probably have a better > idea than they do, anyway... > > I have a web server running 3.2-stable and apache-fp.1.3.6. > Everything works fine, except the client-side Java apps. > > We call up a web site with a Java app, and get an error: > > date, etc, blah blah: File does not exist: /home/dynamic/public_html/data/DropMenu.class > > Looking in the directory in question, though, the file is *definitely* there. On the client boxes? Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 9:35:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B4A152EF; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:35:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA77298; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:35:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <199911171735.MAA77298@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Apache & Java error on FreeBSD -- nevermind To: questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:35:33 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@gltg.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, My mistake. Sorry to have bothered you. I hereby concede that I am unfit to hold an intellectual with a turnip. Squirrels laugh at me behind my back. I hear voices, and do as they say. Yet again, all that is necessary for me to solve a problem I spent a week looking at is humiliating myself before hundreds of thousands of users. Perhaps I should simply fall back on mailing test@freebsd.org first. ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 10:29:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B02714F68 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whiste.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA85474; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:29:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:29:13 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Jonas Eriksson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PRI Cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org talk with 'phk@freebsd.org' I BELIEVE he has a siemens card working. On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonas Eriksson wrote: > > What PRI/E1 Cards are supported in FreeBSD? > > -- Jonas Eriksson > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 10:51:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E64E150BE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:51:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA07177; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:51:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:51:02 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: mwlucas@gltg.com Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache & Java error on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199911171307.IAA76451@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sometimes apache will not recognize any other directory before the directory that it is in. You may need to play with the Directory thingi in the access.conf file or in httpd.conf file Jahanur On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 mwlucas@gltg.com wrote: > Hello, > > I tried -questions, heard nothing. You folks probably have a better > idea than they do, anyway... > > I have a web server running 3.2-stable and apache-fp.1.3.6. > Everything works fine, except the client-side Java apps. > > We call up a web site with a Java app, and get an error: > > date, etc, blah blah: File does not exist: /home/dynamic/public_html/data/DropMenu.class > > Looking in the directory in question, though, the file is *definitely* there. > > The same file works on an NT IIS box, but not here at all. Yes, we've > checked filename case. ;) > > Do I have to do anything to get a FreeBSD Apache box to serve Java properly? > > Thanks, > Michael > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 15:24:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0138714F96 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:24:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA64447; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:24:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <00bf01bf3152$e3d48be0$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:24:26 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Vincent Poy" > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > > The easiest way I've found to install this combination, is to make patch on > > the apache13-php port (selecting mod-ssl and other modules as desired), then > > patch for FP2K, then make install > > > > Once installed, you'll need to go through the FP install script to configure > > your server. Have fun on that one. Info for it can be found at www.rtr.com > > How does one patch for FP2K? > Have a look at the Apache13-FP port at: ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp/port/apache13-fp.tar.gz ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp/port/apache13-fp-modssl.tar.gz From this port you'll need: files/apache.sh.tmpl files/mod_frontpage.c patches/patch-f* Look at the patches/patch-a* patches to see if any thing in these patches needs to be applied. Look at the Ports Makefile, on how it deals with mod_frontpage, suexec, fp_install.sh, and change_server.sh. Make sure that you have the DES libraries installed onto your system. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 15:53: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from beagle.epooch.com (beagle.epooch.com [208.232.158.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EA314E99; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:53:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@epooch.com) Received: from POOCH (pooch.epooch.com [208.232.158.5]) by beagle.epooch.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id SAA04464; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:51:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@epooch.com) Message-ID: <001801bf3157$3e20b570$059ee8d0@epooch.com> From: "Matt Schroebel" To: "Troy Settle" , "Vincent Poy" Cc: , "Freebsd questions" References: Subject: Re: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:55:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Settle" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 6:07 AM Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php > > Just how dense are you? Do you not understand what it means when someone is > refering to FP2K, and says that "info for it can be found at www.rtr.com" ? > > This is the THIRD time I've posted this URL. Please go there and educate > yourself before asking any more questions on this list. Installing > Apache+php+ssl+frontpage+this+that+the_other, is really freakin simple. You > read the directions for each item you wish to toss in, and apply those > instructions at the appropriate time: > I don't think computer software is simple at all, especially when it doesn't work. I just had a heck of a time installing apache + mysql + php3 with FBSD 3.2. The port wanted gd, but the version of gd fetched didn't match what the port expected, the checksum validation failed, and the patches wouldn't apply. The same was true with PHP3. Since I'm a newbie to UNIX, I gave up on the ports collection, went to the respective web sites, and followed each packages INSTALL instructions. I'm an experienced computer professional. There was recently some banter of noticing less newbie questions. It's answers like this that keep me from even asking questions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 16: 2:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from casper.spirit.net.au (cas240.act.spirit.net.au [203.63.240.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826A515060; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:02:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryan@casper.spirit.net.au) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by casper.spirit.net.au (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA88323; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:02:08 +1100 (EST) From: Bryan Collins Message-Id: <199911180002.LAA88323@casper.spirit.net.au> Subject: Re: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php In-Reply-To: <001801bf3157$3e20b570$059ee8d0@epooch.com> from Matt Schroebel at "Nov 17, 1999 06:55:32 pm" To: matt@epooch.com (Matt Schroebel) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:02:08 +1100 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I don't think computer software is simple at all, especially when it doesn't > work. I just had a heck of a time installing apache + mysql + php3 with > FBSD 3.2. The port wanted gd, but the version of gd fetched didn't match > what the port expected, the checksum validation failed, and the patches > wouldn't apply. The same was true with PHP3. Since I'm a newbie to UNIX, I > gave up on the ports collection, went to the respective web sites, and > followed each packages INSTALL instructions. > Theres a nice little page on this on the FreeBSD 'zine site. http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/fp2k.html It gives good info on getting fp2k going with apache. I followed the instructions and my setup worked first go! Cheers Bry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 18:41:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3F714C95 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:41:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02722; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:40:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:40:38 -0500 From: Steven Ames To: Rami Abu Jebara Cc: Hamid Moghadam , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, V.35 cross ... Message-ID: <19991117214038.A63975@vic.cioe.com> References: <19990915062122.87946.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where do you get one of these cables? I've been looking for some cables to use to cross connect Cisco's to simulate WAN connections... -Steve On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 04:07:54PM +0300, Rami Abu Jebara wrote: > Hi > > If this is for a cisco serial interface (crossing 2 ciscos) > > you can use a Cisco DTE + Cisco DCE cable . > > set the close rate on the interface .. and that's it. > > else .. check the equipment manual. > > cheers > > Rami > > **************************** > Rami Abu Jebara > Technical Director > Palnet Communications Ltd > e-mail : rjebara@palnet.com > Tel: ++ 972 2 583 5666 > Fax: ++ 972 2 583 6354 > w w w . p a l n e t . c o m > > On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Hamid Moghadam wrote: > > > Dear guys > > > > Sorry for being very off topic but I nead the information urgently. > > Where can I find the pin assignment for V.35 cross connection ? > > V.35 ( DCE ) <=> V.35 ( DCE ) > > > > > > Thanks for every thing. > > > > - Hamid > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 19:49:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com (smtp4.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A9214FAE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2iveaq1.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.43.65]) by smtp4.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05103 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:49:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <383376EC.C908307B@confusion.net> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:47:56 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Colocation information Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Admittedly this is very off topic, but I'm in a major bind here and need information. I'm looking for price quotes on dedicated gigabit ethernet colocation, including one rack of space to start, perhaps more later on. I'm looking for leads on good colocation facilities, and perhaps some price quotes that include any utilization fees as well as upfront costs. Your help is greatly appreciated. -- Laurence Berland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 21:19:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasknow.com (h139-142-245-96.ss.fiberone.net [139.142.245.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4671153FE for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:19:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@sasknow.com) Received: from sasknow.com (ntstn [10.0.0.2]) by sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA72424 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:19:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@sasknow.com) Message-ID: <38338D2B.4C0FD5AC@sasknow.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:22:51 -0600 From: "Ryan Thompson [FreeBSD]" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Hardware upgrade time.. Root filesystem moving Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all; I'll shortly be adding some additional storage to my production server. Currently, my / and /var partitions are on an old, slow and noisy drive. / doesn't change, but /var is also kept on the same drive, and is rapidly losing available space (I've already had to symlink /var/mail to another fs). So, to make a long story short, I would like to move /, /var and /www filesystems to a new, faster, bigger bootable drive, and have as little downtime (and headaches) as possible during the transition. Obviously, I'm going to be down for as long as it takes me to cable the new drive in and reboot, but I'd like to avoid as many other delays as possible. I run a heavily configured 3.2 system with a good number of options installed. Most of my changes are documented, but I'm sure I've missed one or two important points along the way that would take me inordinate amounts of time to track down and fix. So, starting from scratch is perhaps not a good option. I do have another "free" system here on the LAN (though it's an NT machine :-) I COULD, however, sacrifice it to the cause temporarily to install a new system on the new drive. (Perhaps also a good time to install and test the newest 3.3-STABLE). However, an version upgrade could also generate a number of headaches. Doesn't look like much of the config will have changed with 3.3, but it's still not going to be a drag and drop replacement of /etc :-) I also perform tape backups, though I do this across the LAN and only take partials of critical files. (So, in the event of server armageddon, I wouldn't lose any data, but I'd have quite a scramble on my hands. Money is the limiting factor, here, people... Not intelligence :-) Therefore, it's not really feasable for me to do a complete restore from backup to the new drive. So, my options, then: 1) Take NT machine down in favour of new FreeBSD install (yippee!!). Spend days-weeks configuring everything as I need so I can just replace the kernel/address settings, and drop it in my production system, with a minimum of downtime. Would use some NFS mounting to grab old and important config settings. Pro: Opportunity to upgrate to and test 3.3-stable. Con: Involved process, some opportunity to make errors. 2) Install a base 3.2 system on NT on new drive, NFS mount my old system, and copy literally everything on /, /var and /www over. Pro: Relatively fast and easy in comparison. Less likely to foul up my configuration. Con: Same server, different drive. No opportunity to upgrade. 3) ?? Suggestions ?? Most of the problems I will have with either option above is the complexity of the server. I don't even know where all the dependencies lie. I have added many libraries from all kinds of sources, installed ports, packages, downloaded software, you name it. I'd like to know of any success/horror stories any of you have had with similar situations. - Ryan Thompson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 17 21:23:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2D014A0B for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:23:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from laptop (PORT-001.MAX-01.RAD.I-PLUS.NET [209.100.21.33]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA32465; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:23:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Matt Schroebel" Cc: Subject: Newbie stuff (WAS: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:24:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <001801bf3157$3e20b570$059ee8d0@epooch.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's been quite some time since I've used the port in question. The last time I did, it worked as expected. As distributions change, ports break. The maintainer of the port wasn't paid, and isn't paid. If the port is broken, then you need to do exactly what you did: install stuff manually. Alternatively, you could fix the port :) As for my mail being anti-newbie, please re-read it. It's not the question that bothered me, is the fact that I gave the same answer 3 times in one thread. All that the more experienced users on these lists ask, is that you, the newbie, take the time to read the availiable documentation. The first time I installed the FP server extensions, I followed the directions located at www.rtr.com, and it worked like a charm. All I had to do, was *READ* the documentation and do what it said (with a few minor adjustments since I was installing on FreeBSD as opposed to BSDI). Don't be hesitant to ask your questions. Ask us why the sky is blue. Someone will provide you an answer, but may chastise you if it's obvious that you did not bother to utilize availiable resources to try to find the answer yourself. Also, I'd like to state for the record that I never used the mailing lists until I had already been using FreeBSD for about 6 months or so. When I finally did subscribe, I saw nothing but questions that were easily answered by man pages, web pages, or README files. It's really frustrating for us more experienced users to have to explain these basic concepts to new people. You're subscribed to the ISP mailing list. I assume you own and/or work at an ISP. How many times have you wanted to strangle a customer for calling you up and asking some stupid question that could have been answered by hitting F1 and bringing up the help file? Nobody expects anyone on these lists to know everything, and nobody will get bitchy for a newbie asking a question after he/she has read the related documentation. I'll close now, Troy ** -----Original Message----- ** From: Matt Schroebel [mailto:matt@epooch.com] ** Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 6:56 PM ** To: Troy Settle; Vincent Poy ** Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Freebsd questions ** Subject: Re: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php ** ** ** ----- Original Message ----- ** From: "Troy Settle" ** To: "Vincent Poy" ** Cc: ** Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 6:07 AM ** Subject: RE: Apache + FP2000 + modssl + php ** ** ** > ** > Just how dense are you? Do you not understand what it means ** when someone ** is ** > refering to FP2K, and says that "info for it can be found at ** www.rtr.com" ** ? ** > ** > This is the THIRD time I've posted this URL. Please go there ** and educate ** > yourself before asking any more questions on this list. Installing ** > Apache+php+ssl+frontpage+this+that+the_other, is really freakin simple. ** You ** > read the directions for each item you wish to toss in, and apply those ** > instructions at the appropriate time: ** > ** ** I don't think computer software is simple at all, especially ** when it doesn't ** work. I just had a heck of a time installing apache + mysql + php3 with ** FBSD 3.2. The port wanted gd, but the version of gd fetched didn't match ** what the port expected, the checksum validation failed, and the patches ** wouldn't apply. The same was true with PHP3. Since I'm a ** newbie to UNIX, I ** gave up on the ports collection, went to the respective web sites, and ** followed each packages INSTALL instructions. ** ** I'm an experienced computer professional. There was recently ** some banter of ** noticing less newbie questions. It's answers like this that keep me from ** even asking questions. ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 18 4: 3:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpin2.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpin2.email.verio.net [129.250.36.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062B8153B4 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:03:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: from bilver.magicnet.net ([157.238.16.49]) by dfw-smtpin2.email.verio.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FLE6TW00.R8C for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:03:32 +0000 Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id HAA06795 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:02:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:02:02 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC, V.35 cross ... Message-ID: <19991118070202.A6741@bilver.magicnet.net> References: <19990915062122.87946.qmail@hotmail.com> <19991117214038.A63975@vic.cioe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <19991117214038.A63975@vic.cioe.com> Organization: Vermillion Consulting Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 09:40:38PM -0500, Thus Spake Steven Ames: > Where do you get one of these cables? I've been looking for some > cables to use to cross connect Cisco's to simulate WAN connections... (refereing to DTE/DCE cable). > > If this is for a cisco serial interface (crossing 2 ciscos) > > > > you can use a Cisco DTE + Cisco DCE cable . > > set the close rate on the interface .. and that's it. Actually setting the 'clock' rate would be better :-) :-) However in the past 2 years we've bought almost every piece of equipment used, and got cables from the same place at prices better than Cisco. Call John Sheldon. Get his number from www.networkhardware.com. We got a 7513, 16 serial ports, 6 ethernet ports, HSSI port, dual power supplies - brand new in a box but 1.5 years old - some major company's spare for $31K. Got a rack of 12 Kentrox CSU/DSU's for under $3K - less power supply. I'm not affiliated with them in any way. We're just a happy customer. Bill -- Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 18 4:34: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net [129.250.36.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1511507C for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: from bilver.magicnet.net ([157.238.16.49]) by dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FLE88K00.6A6 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:33:56 +0000 Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id HAA07004 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:30:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:30:40 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Cicso DCE/DTE cables Message-ID: <19991118073040.A6996@bilver.magicnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i Organization: Vermillion Consulting Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well I must have been 1/2 asleep when I posted to the comment about the DCE/DTE cables, and gave the site where we bought hardware. I meant to say we bought the DCE/DTE cables from John too. It's been a long day. DS3 out at about 8PM, I slept from 4AM to 5AM - until I got another update - and then the 6AM call whent it was running. Four day-time techs at two different interconnects worked all night on it, so at least I wasn't alone. I'm going to bed. Sorry about the nebulous post. Bill -- Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 18 11:36:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [216.24.27.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB1D14C26 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfmays@launchpad.win.net) Received: from launchpad.win.net (notebook01.win.net [216.24.1.215]) by ns1.win.net (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA02348 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:35:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38345422.CE02002F@launchpad.win.net> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:31:46 -0500 From: Joe Mays X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Apache and Realaudio/realvideo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This isn't *strictly* a freebsd question (though all the software in question is running on freebsd servers), but posting this question to comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix yielded nothing, so I thought I would try it here. Didn't there used to be a limit on the number of realaudio/realvideo streams that an apache webserver could serve? If so, does the limit still apply? If there is no limit on apache streams, is there any reason to buy a realserver from progressive networks other than doing live broadcasts? Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 18 11:43:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Astrovan.cstone.net (mailstop.cstone.net [205.197.102.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E8314E12 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:43:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from highway@cstone.net) Received: from cstone.net (snowcrash.cstone.net [209.145.66.12]) by Astrovan.cstone.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59789U13500L1350S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:41:02 -0500 Message-ID: <383456DA.FEFF4FA5@cstone.net> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:43:23 -0500 From: Sean Michael Whipkey Organization: Cornerstone Networks, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Mays Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache and Realaudio/realvideo References: <38345422.CE02002F@launchpad.win.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joe Mays wrote: > Didn't there used to be a limit on the number of realaudio/realvideo streams > that an apache webserver could serve? If so, does the limit still apply? AFAIK, if you have pre-existing RA files on your server, as many people who want to listen to them can as long as they can reach your server. > If there is no limit on apache streams, is there any reason to buy a realserver > from progressive > networks other than doing live broadcasts? If you're doing a live broadcast, the RA server package has the built-in limitations. It's something like a minimum of 25... SeanMike -- SeanMike Whipkey - highway@cstone.net - http://www.cstone.net Engineering Department, Cornerstone Networks, Inc. - 804.817.7000 HEY! Lay off the SeanMike! The man's a misunderstood visionary! - Kermit Labmonkey (aka Ryan Kimmet) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 18 12:27:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C2F15190 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:27:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 101) id 49B0FE4A37; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:27:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F94AE0C0C; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:27:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:27:34 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Joe Mays Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache and Realaudio/realvideo In-Reply-To: <38345422.CE02002F@launchpad.win.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Joe Mays wrote: > Didn't there used to be a limit on the number of realaudio/realvideo streams > that an apache webserver could serve? If so, does the limit still apply? Apache sort of "streams" by nature that the realplayerg2 will recognize certain file types and after buffering the data as configured, can begin playing the clip before downloading completes. However, to take advantage of real time streaming protocol to throttle the connection and select the proper rate of streaming for the viewer as set in their realplayer preferences, you've got to use the realserver. > > If there is no limit on apache streams, is there any reason to buy a realserver > from progressive > networks other than doing live broadcasts? It's got nice features, but we would not have purchased it if a major client didn't request it. ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 5:43:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from student-mailhub.dcu.ie (ns.dcu.ie [136.206.1.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27EC15639 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from singer@redbrick.dcu.ie) Received: from enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie (postfix@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie [136.206.15.5]) by student-mailhub.dcu.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3/893-FD) with ESMTP id NAA12446 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:43:23 GMT Received: by enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie (Postfix, from userid 2030) id 9557B7CC1; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:43:22 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:43:22 +0000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Old Question (Was Re: chroot for telnet accounts) Message-ID: <19991119134322.A30589@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> References: <19991117054549.56308.qmail@hotmail.com> <19991117085056.B23467@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991117085056.B23467@intrepid.net>; from mark@intrepid.net on Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 08:50:56AM -0500 From: singer@redbrick.dcu.ie (Brian Scanlan ) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all... On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 08:50:56AM -0500, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 07:45:51AM +0200, 3mr 3shmaoy wrote: > > I's wondering how could I apply chroot for telnet accounts. > > Thnx in advance. > > > There's a patch to login.c available: That's reminded me of something I'm intrested in, but got distracted/put off. I've a spare FreeBSD box here, and am looking to train people up as admins on it - Howto use the root account, howto configure services, securing services etc. Thing is, it'd be more intresting for myself to set it up as virtual machines, i.e. chrooted environments with different IPs, thus excluding each of the trainee-admins away from each other as much as possible. I know it's been done before etc., but I couldn't seem to find a pointer to a web page explaining precisely what to do with patches etc. I'd love to RTFM, but I can't seem to find TFM. :) I'm also utterly unwilling to attempt such crazyness myself, coding wise. Though that's probably a good thing. The machine is currently running 3.1-STABLE, but that can be upgraded if needed... Thanks for your time etc. :) Brian. -- "As with most of my theories, this one doesn't hold up to close scrutiny, but it's surprisingly resilient to casual criticism." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 6:25:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF2B15070 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:25:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sh@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F419B2E; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:25:41 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <38355E07.CB9CD0C9@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:26:15 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Lynch Cc: Joe Mays , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache and Realaudio/realvideo References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > However, to take advantage of real time streaming protocol > to throttle the connection It's not rtsp, but squid has some rather interesting features here... :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 6:28:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBEF150BC for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:28:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sh@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59039B1E; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:28:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <38355EA8.FEFD20AB@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:28:56 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laurence Berland Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Colocation information References: <383376EC.C908307B@confusion.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Admittedly this is very off topic, but I'm in a major bind here and need > information. I think you're looking for http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-colo/. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 8:18:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iservern.teligent.se (www.teligent.se [194.17.198.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7159515679 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:18:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jakob@teligent.se) Received: from fwse.teligent.se (gateway.teligent.se [192.168.3.254] (may be forged)) by iservern.teligent.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA24339 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:14:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jakob@teligent.se) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:17:32 +0100 (CET) From: Jakob Alvermark Reply-To: alvermark@teligent.se To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: User ppp with callback. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. Does anybody know how to set up user ppp client for callback? It should dial the number, get a password prompt, send the password, the server hangs up, wait for ring, pick up the modem, wait for login prompt, send username, wait for password, send password, then go to packet mode. Hope you understand what I mean. Thanks, =09Jakob ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nyn=E4shamn, Sweden =20 Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36=20 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 10:35:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host1.premier-hosting.com (host1.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E8C14D51 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:35:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@premier-networks.com) Received: from premier-networks.com (internal-admin.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.6]) by host1.premier-hosting.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA92819; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:53:51 GMT Message-ID: <3829AB83.59ACD36F@premier-networks.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:29:39 -0500 From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Javier Henderson Cc: James Wyatt , "Eric W. Bates" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: where to get hardware References: <14377.44501.661696.939706@bogon.kjsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you're looking for quantity, email me... we wholesale mice all the time including Logitech and MS...:) Paul Javier Henderson wrote: > > > My favorite little VAR down the street cannot find me 3-button mice > > (more signs of MS dominance). He checked Ingram Micro and a few other > > places. > > > > Anyone got a source? I've never tried, but can one use the wheel as a > > middle button on such mice? > > Office Depot had several three button mice, some for about 10 > bucks, both in serial and ps/2 versions. I was there just last week. > > -jav > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 10:35:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host1.premier-hosting.com (host1.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F491545F for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:35:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@premier-networks.com) Received: from premier-networks.com (internal-admin.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.6]) by host1.premier-hosting.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA59104; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:18:57 GMT Message-ID: <3826E4CB.9CB10689@premier-networks.com> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 09:57:15 -0500 From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FP200 extensions. References: <199911051304.NAA04600@post.mail.areti.net>; from Nicholas J. Dear on Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 01:00:02PM -0000 <199911051325.NAA05797@post.mail.areti.net> <031501bf27ed$e65c3c00$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do we know when this port will be available in the ports collection or is there a place it can be downloaded from now? :) Paul "Scot W. Hetzel" wrote: > > From: "Nicholas J. Dear" > > > On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 01:00:02PM -0000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there are any FP extensions that support FP2000 > for BSD > > > > under Apache? We currently run the FP98 extensions on our BSD servers > here. > > If you look in the Ports collection you'll see the Apache13-FP port, > currently it uses the FP98 Exts, but PR 14571 was submited to upgraded it to > FP2K. > > > Cheers, found and received! Just now to install the damn thing. > > > > For peoples ref: > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/languages/fp/2000/unixfpse.asp > > > Scot > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 10:43:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from home.mem.net (home.mem.net [208.233.48.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AB01567B for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:43:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from engineering@mem.net) Received: from mem.net (romulus.mem.net [208.233.48.156]) by home.mem.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13028 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:43:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38359A65.F9027C41@mem.net> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:43:49 -0600 From: Synapse Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Allowing users to read mail throuth the web Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am looking for a good free software package that will allow my users to read their mbox formatted mailboxes through the web. I would also like them to be able to send mail through the web and send and recieve attachments. I need to authenticate the users out of the passwd database. Is anyone using something for this that they would recommend? Thanks. http://www.mem.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 10:43:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FADF1569A for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmaster@deancare.com) Received: from dtjack (mail.deancare.com [208.212.83.68]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA21608 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:43:51 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991119124524.00974ea0@mailbag.com> X-Sender: deanweb@mailbag.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:45:24 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Jack Wenger Subject: Satan Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for a port of SATAN that will work on a 3.2 box. I downloaded that latest - satan-1.1.1 - but I can't get the "reconfig" script to work. Grrrrr. It keeps bitching that -S is a bad switch when it checks my perl ver. I need this to do some testing from home of my firewall at work. Jack Wenger Internet Administrator Dean Health Plan Madison, WI 608-250-1237 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 10:58:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sneakerz.org (sneakerz.org [208.176.135.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CD10155BE for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@sneakerz.org) Received: (qmail 64858 invoked by uid 1004); 19 Nov 1999 18:51:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:51:49 -0800 From: Dave McKay To: Jack Wenger Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Satan Port Message-ID: <19991119105149.A64843@sneakerz.org> References: <3.0.6.32.19991119124524.00974ea0@mailbag.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991119124524.00974ea0@mailbag.com>; from Jack Wenger on Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 12:45:24PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 12:45:24PM -0600, Jack Wenger wrote: > I'm looking for a port of SATAN that will work on a 3.2 box. I downloaded > that latest - satan-1.1.1 - but I can't get the "reconfig" script to work. This is not the latest version of Satan. Satan now has a newer version called "Saint." You can probably find it on any of the security related web sites. You might try SecurityFocus..com. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave McKay dave@sneakerz.org MSN Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 11:49:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D343614CFC for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:49:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19869; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:49:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199911191949.UAA19869@zed.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Synapse Engineering Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Allowing users to read mail throuth the web In-Reply-To: Message from Synapse Engineering of "Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:43:49 CST." <38359A65.F9027C41@mem.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:49:17 +0100 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am looking for a good free software package that will allow my users > to read their mbox formatted mailboxes through the web. I would also > like them to be able to send mail through the web and send and recieve > attachments. I need to authenticate the users out of the passwd > database. Is anyone using something for this that they would recommend? IMP. http://www.horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 12:49:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boofura.swcp.com (boofura.swcp.com [198.59.115.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA3614D0B for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:48:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deichert@wrench.com) Received: from localhost (deichert@localhost) by boofura.swcp.com (8.8.5/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA01209; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:03:04 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: boofura.swcp.com: deichert owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:03:04 -0700 (MST) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@boofura.swcp.com To: Synapse Engineering Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Allowing users to read mail throuth the web In-Reply-To: <38359A65.F9027C41@mem.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org TWIG http://twig.screwdriver.net/ diana On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Synapse Engineering wrote: > I am looking for a good free software package that will allow my users > to read their mbox formatted mailboxes through the web. I would also > like them to be able to send mail through the web and send and recieve > attachments. I need to authenticate the users out of the passwd > database. Is anyone using something for this that they would recommend? > > Thanks. > > http://www.mem.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Diana Eichert VP Technical Services Nothing in Particular at the Moment, Inc. deichert@wrench.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 14:59:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.cpetc.com (hermes.cpetc.com [207.137.157.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1845614CF8 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:59:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kahn@deadbbs.com) Received: from erin-laptop (mongo.sdccd.cc.ca.us [209.129.16.5]) by hermes.cpetc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA06068; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:59:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Kahn" To: "'Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)'" , "'Scot W. Hetzel'" Cc: , Subject: RE: FP200 extensions. Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:00:48 -0800 Message-ID: <000c01bf32e1$ebd68c40$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3826E4CB.9CB10689@premier-networks.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got my copy from www.rtr.com Erin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Do we know when this port will be available in the ports collection or > is there a place it can be downloaded from now? :) > > Paul > > > "Scot W. Hetzel" wrote: > > > > From: "Nicholas J. Dear" > > > > On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 01:00:02PM -0000, Nicholas J. > Dear wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there are any FP extensions that > support FP2000 > > for BSD > > > > > under Apache? We currently run the FP98 extensions on > our BSD servers > > here. > > > > If you look in the Ports collection you'll see the Apache13-FP port, > > currently it uses the FP98 Exts, but PR 14571 was submited > to upgraded it to > > FP2K. > > > > > Cheers, found and received! Just now to install the damn thing. > > > > > > For peoples ref: > > > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/languages/fp/2000/unixfpse.asp > > > > > Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 15:11: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dns.sonntag.org (dns.sonntag.org [216.140.186.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF61314F60 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:11:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aaron@sonntag.org) Received: from aaron (cs2732-58.austin.rr.com [24.27.32.58]) by dns.sonntag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA00490; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:10:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from aaron@sonntag.org) From: "Aaron Sonntag" To: "Kahn" , "'Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)'" , "'Scot W. Hetzel'" Cc: , Subject: RE: FP200 extensions. Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:27:14 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000c01bf32e1$ebd68c40$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I HIGHLY recommend checking out the following page... Let me know if you have problems... Lord knows I have had more than my share... http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/fp2k.html there are links to download the extensions... Aaron -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kahn Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 5:01 PM To: 'Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)'; 'Scot W. Hetzel' Cc: ndear@areti.net; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: FP200 extensions. I got my copy from www.rtr.com Erin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Do we know when this port will be available in the ports collection or > is there a place it can be downloaded from now? :) > > Paul > > > "Scot W. Hetzel" wrote: > > > > From: "Nicholas J. Dear" > > > > On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 01:00:02PM -0000, Nicholas J. > Dear wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there are any FP extensions that > support FP2000 > > for BSD > > > > > under Apache? We currently run the FP98 extensions on > our BSD servers > > here. > > > > If you look in the Ports collection you'll see the Apache13-FP port, > > currently it uses the FP98 Exts, but PR 14571 was submited > to upgraded it to > > FP2K. > > > > > Cheers, found and received! Just now to install the damn thing. > > > > > > For peoples ref: > > > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/languages/fp/2000/unixfpse.asp > > > > > Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 15:32: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from apache.vineyard.net (PRIMARY.VINEYARD.NET [199.232.92.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B451507B for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:31:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericx@apache.vineyard.net) Received: (from ericx@localhost) by apache.vineyard.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id SAA08946; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:31:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911192331.SAA08946@apache.vineyard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Nathan Mahon Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DHCP, win95 clients and more fun. In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under Emacs 19.34.1 Reply-To: "Eric W. Bates" From: "Eric W. Bates" X-Work: Vineyard.NET, Inc., Box 4249, Vineyard Haven, MA 02568-4249 X-Phone: 508/696-6688 X-Fax: 508/696-8989 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:31:46 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please excuse if I am way off in left field. I'm making a few guesses between the lines of your note. I don't think your client's machines are getting their configs. You cannot use dhcp to assign addresses in a network space if there is no interface to that network. This holds true for both your networks 10.0.1.0/24 and 10.0.2.0/24. You will have to hang an IP from each network on your NIC (or loopback). You will also need a mechanism to distinguish each DHCP REQUEST sufficiently so that your DHCP server can decide which of the multiple networks the NIC touches is the appropriate one from which to assign an IP (the packet is being sent to FFFF.FFFF.FFFF.FFFF with little more than its own MAC number to identify itself. You might also consider renumbering altogether. There are way too many devices defaulting to 10.0.0.0/24. Some one of your customers downstream is likely to install Windows NT Small Business Services (you think NT is bad...). The SBS proxy dhcp server defaults to 10.0.0.0/24 and even if the bindings are set to point the service at only one of multiple interfaces, it will post an error and quit if it sees any DHCP activity using 10.0.0.0/24 on the other interface. Net 10 gives you a whole class A to play with. I like to make something up for each NAT'ed net, e.g. 10.12.34.0/24. It is useful to stick with ye olde classic /24 nets because sometimes the gear is old or (just crappy) and can't handle variably sized subnets and/or aggregation. Also there is a problem betwixed Win95 and ISC-DHCP. After receiving a broadcast packet from a machine in INIT state requesting DHCP info, ISC's server will send the response back with the client's MAC address instead of the ethernet broadcast address, FFFF.FFFF.FFFF, (after all, why bother every machine on the net with a broadcast packet when you know which machine wants the data?) but the packet has the IP broadcast address, 255.255.255.255, because the client doesn't have an IP yet (it's in the packet). Those with more smarts than I might argue, but I agree with the ISC designers that this is "the right thing". However, it is a violation of IP protocol in that ARP wants the 2 parts (ethernet MAC and IP) to match: a packet with the IP broadcast address should be sent with the ethernet broadcast address. Win95 barfs. It doesn't seem to be a problem for Win98. (I would appreciate those with better understanding elaborating.) The client can specify a preference for a broadcast reply in the DHCP REQUEST(Win95 doesn't do this). You can force ISC to always broadcast replys, but I can't quote the specifics (my copy of Lemon & Droms' new "The DHCP Handbook" is on the bedside table at home). > From: Nathan Mahon > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:49:06 -0600 (CST) > > > Due to the type of service i'm issuing, our ADSL customers are invoking a > peculiar situation. > > I'm working on getting ISC-DHCP working with our current situation: > > 1. all of these accounts are on unregistered ips, NAT translated... > Each of the different dsl connections connect through a terminator, and > each should be allowed it's own group (class C worth) of 10.X.X.X > addresses. > I've got an Ascend Max Terminator with all the 10.X.X.1 addresses for each > of the DSL lines, and it does DHCP proxy for all the accounts. > I've gotten this to work on NT, but you know how we all love NT. > > Anyway, I don't know if my configuration is poor or my routing is poor, so > I'll attach everything below... > Note: it works locally, notice the 10.0.0.x settings... but won't route > them through the max terminator. > > Please help! :) > > vaevictus > > > > 10.0.0.5 -> local ip of the max terminator > 10.0.0.2 -> ip of the dhcp server > 10.0.0.1 -> outside gateway > 10.0.2.1 -> sample max terminator interface for the dsl > 10.0.2.2-255 -> ips for that dsl link > > Routing tables > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > 10/24 link#2 UC 0 0 xl1 > 10 10.0.0.5 UGSc 0 305 xl1 > 10.0.0.1 0:10:7b:84:bd:9b UHLW 0 104 xl1 1144 > 10.0.0.5 0:c0:7b:84:1f:c0 UHLW 1 0 xl1 619 > 10.0.0.105 0:40:33:5b:11:9 UHLW 1 1301 xl1 585 > 10.0.0.252 link#2 UHLW 2 2 xl1 > 255.255.255.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLSb 0 0 xl1 > > > > option domain-name-servers 216.106.1.2, 216.106.1.3; > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > option domain-name "socket.net"; > > subnet 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 > { > range 10.0.0.252 10.0.0.253; > option routers 10.0.0.1; > option broadcast-address 10.0.0.255; > default-lease-time 600; > max-lease-time 7200; > } > subnet 10.0.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 > { > range 10.0.1.3 10.0.1.4; > option routers 10.0.1.1; > option broadcast-address 10.0.1.255; > default-lease-time 600; > max-lease-time 7200; > } > subnet 10.0.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 > { > range 10.0.2.3 10.0.2.4; > option routers 10.0.2.1; > option broadcast-address 10.0.2.255; > default-lease-time 600; > max-lease-time 7200; > } > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 17:43:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22F314EFE for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:43:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA59412; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:42:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:42:29 +1100 From: Jonathan Michaels To: Aaron Sonntag Cc: Kahn , "'Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)'" , "'Scot W. Hetzel'" , ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FP200 extensions. Message-ID: <19991120124227.B59363@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Aaron Sonntag , Kahn , "'Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)'" , "'Scot W. Hetzel'" , ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000c01bf32e1$ebd68c40$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Aaron Sonntag on Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 05:27:14PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 05:27:14PM -0600, Aaron Sonntag wrote: > I HIGHLY recommend checking out the following page... > Let me know if you have problems... > Lord knows I have had more than my share... > http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/fp2k.html > there are links to download the extensions... i will follow these up when i require more relevant information, but for the moment i'd like to ask this question. frontpage used to have a reputation for being less than "secure" and many of the ports of these tools were also open to "easy access" as the old saying used to go. what i would like to know is, and in the context of a secure webserver, are the current round of frontpage tools and "extesnions" safe and or secure in the unix context, if not the orange book itself. warm regards and thank you for your time. cheers, jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 17:45:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.patho.gen.nz (tardis.patho.gen.nz [203.97.2.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8C814EFE for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:45:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@tardis.patho.gen.nz) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25235; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:45:15 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:45:14 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: "Eric W. Bates" Cc: Nathan Mahon , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP, win95 clients and more fun. Message-ID: <19991120144512.A23200@patho.gen.nz> References: <199911192331.SAA08946@apache.vineyard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911192331.SAA08946@apache.vineyard.net>; from ericx@vineyard.net on Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 06:31:46PM -0500 X-Files: the Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 06:31:46PM -0500, Eric W. Bates wrote: > You cannot use dhcp to assign addresses in a network space if there is > no interface to that network. Yes, you can. You use a BOOTP relay agent. RFC2131: o "BOOTP relay agent" A BOOTP relay agent or relay agent is an Internet host or router that passes DHCP messages between DHCP clients and DHCP servers. DHCP is designed to use the same relay agent behavior as specified in the BOOTP protocol specification. > [snip] > You will also need a mechanism to > distinguish each DHCP REQUEST sufficiently so that your DHCP server > can decide which of the multiple networks the NIC touches is the > appropriate one from which to assign an IP (the packet is being sent > to FFFF.FFFF.FFFF.FFFF with little more than its own MAC number to > identify itself. RFC2131: The format of DHCP messages is based on the format of BOOTP messages, to capture the BOOTP relay agent behavior described as part of the BOOTP specification [7, 21] and to allow interoperability of existing BOOTP clients with DHCP servers. Using BOOTP relay agents eliminates the necessity of having a DHCP server on each physical network segment. See RFC951 for how BOOTP handles this. > [interoperability issue between win95 and isc-dhcp] That's interesting. I hadn't heard of that. Joe -- Ua lawa küpono ka hakahaka pä o këia pä malule To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 19 18:30:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-56.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CA6156F7 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03743; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:20:24 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01134; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:25:04 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199911200025.AAA01134@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: alvermark@teligent.se Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: User ppp with callback. In-Reply-To: Message from Jakob Alvermark of "Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:17:32 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:25:04 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi. > = > Does anybody know how to set up user ppp client for callback? > It should dial the number, get a password prompt, send the password, th= e > server hangs up, wait for ring, pick up the modem, wait for login promp= t, > send username, wait for password, send password, then go to packet mode= =2E > = > Hope you understand what I mean. > = > Thanks, > Jakob [.....] Ppp doesn't wait for a ring. It negotiates callback then exits. You = must also setup a server-side ppp. -- = Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 20 0:19:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cask.force9.net (cask.force9.net [195.166.128.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05F6414D71 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:19:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from emrul.i@emnetonline.f9.co.uk) Received: (qmail 18692 invoked from network); 20 Nov 1999 08:19:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO emnetonline.f9.co.uk) (212.56.116.87) by cask.force9.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 1999 08:19:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3835C0E7.D159F730@emnetonline.f9.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:28:08 +0000 From: Emrul Islam Reply-To: freebsd@emnetonline.f9.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Intel Port Pro/100+ Intellegent Server Adapter. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there anyway to get drivers for the above network card for FreeBSD? If not, what is the best supported network card for servers under FreeBSD? Thanks in advance, -Emrul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 20 5: 3:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C4A14CD3 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 05:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 269 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:03:27 +0800 Message-ID: <38369C1E.4B1BF281@fil.net> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:03:26 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail in 3.3 References: <3.0.6.32.19991119124524.00974ea0@mailbag.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am a bit new to FreeBSD and just now trying 3.3 (from my month of experance with 3.1). I'm Alone in the Philippines running a small ISP - so pity me! I started out trying to run CgiEmail on Apache. Everything seemed to go okay, but I got this message: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ No email was sent due to an error. 500 sendmail exit 67 with error message filnet@fil.net... User unknown /usr/local/www/data/dead.letter... Saved message in /usr/local/www/data/dead.letter cgiemail 1.6 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As I started looking into this I noticed that my two 3.3 boxes do not report like the two 3.1 do (the Charlie Root midnight report). All are set in alises to forward "root" to my email address on another box. When I write to root@ the 3.1 boxes forward the mail, the 3.3 seem to absorb it in /var/mail/root I have a feeling these are the same problem and my nose is getting bloody from me banging my face on this keyboard for the last couple days... Any Ideas? aLan PS I only went here as a last resort. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 20 16:26:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6D214E98 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 16:26:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA97841; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:26:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <023601bf33b7$04f59ba0$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" Cc: References: <199911051304.NAA04600@post.mail.areti.net>; from Nicholas J. Dear on Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 01:00:02PM -0000 <199911051325.NAA05797@post.mail.areti.net> <031501bf27ed$e65c3c00$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> <3826E4CB.9CB10689@premier-networks.com> Subject: Re: FP200 extensions. Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:26:13 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" > Do we know when this port will be available in the ports collection or > is there a place it can be downloaded from now? :) > No Ideal as to when the update will be applied to the ports collection. The Apache13-FP port can be downloaded from: ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp/port/ Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 20 19:34:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E5315195 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:34:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA81544; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:34:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 21:34:29 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Joe Abley Cc: "Eric W. Bates" , Nathan Mahon , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP, win95 clients and more fun. In-Reply-To: <19991120144512.A23200@patho.gen.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Joe Abley wrote: > > [interoperability issue between win95 and isc-dhcp] > > That's interesting. I hadn't heard of that. Neither have I. I've been using the ISC DHCP server with hundreds of Win95 (and now some 98 and NT) clients for the past few years with never a problem. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message