From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 1:27: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A9314CCF for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 01:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11907; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:28:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:28:06 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: just matt Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3d in 1280x1024 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, just matt wrote: > > I know this review focuses on M$ performance, but it may help you decide: > > http://www.tomshardware.com/releases/99q2/990628/g400-02.html > > >From this review it seems that the G400 might eventually be the better > card (when there is more software support), but right now the TNT2 Ultra > blows it out of the water. But that's for those M$ benchmarks, so I > dunno... They do have some screenshots though that might be worth looking > at. FWIW, the D3D drivers for TNT are very good. My application runs significantly faster on D3D compared to OpenGL. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 6:11:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ECA14D13 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 06:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial9-208.netcologne.de [194.8.195.208]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29966; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:09:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01148; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:07:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:07:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199908011307.PAA01148@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: the_hermit665@hotmail.com Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990731211129.89220.qmail@hotmail.com> (the_hermit665@hotmail.com) Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <19990731211129.89220.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > mid April. My friend ordered the new Riva TNT-2 (pre-order) 2 months ago > and they told him to expect his card in about another 30+ days (I'm guessing > he will receive it early sept). Waiting? In what communist country do you live? :) TNT-2 and TNT-2 Ultra cards are for sale here. > Creative Labs Suck so just get a Diamond. Even though the herules has > the best "RIVA" card on the market, Diamond & ASUS are right behind by a > couple #'s and you "Will Recieve" these cards on time :P > so good luck... So far I am very happy with Diamond. However I don't know if they will continue to manufacture cards with nvidia chips - someone told me they were aquired by S3. Another strong manufacturer is ELSA, they have a reputation for good quality. (Anyone had a view through their 3d shutter glasses yet?) And of course ASUS and Gigabyte. My personal experience was more positive with Gigabyte mainboards so far, so I hope they will have nice graphics boards too. Their GA660 is a TNT2 card, but I have not seen it offered anywhere yet. Plus I've seen some cheap brand I don't know how to value it. They offer a 32 MB "TNT2 Model 64" (whatever that is) for less than a brand name TNT board. http://www.powertech-electronics.de/mn_grafikkarten.html Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 8:11:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75B814C84; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:11:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-104.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.104]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04168; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA01846; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:13:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:13:28 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Message-ID: <19990801111328.A1342@ipass.net> References: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> <199907312000.WAA00709@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199907312000.WAA00709@oranje.my.domain>; from Marc van Woerkom on Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 10:00:49PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc van Woerkom: |> I'm looking for recommendations for a good 3D board (PCI) that has 2D |> & 3D hardware support in the new XFree86 pre-4.0 release. I'd prefer that |> it support 3D-in-a-window and >= 1280x1024 resolution. Voodoo3? Riva128? |> RivaTNT? | |The current snapshot 3.9.15 does only feature a limited set of cards. |E.g. no RIVA (nv) chipset drivers yet. (*) ... |I would be very supprised if the nvidia chips would get no XF 4 support. Thanks for the reply. From a few previously posted URLs (attached), it sounds like official NVidia NV1, 128, TNT, and TNT2 support may not be far off. According to NVidia, they've releasing source code and with the same license as XFree86. ---------- Anyone heard anything definite about NVidia's drivers being pulled into XFree86 4.0? ---------- As I'm limited to PCI, I'm most interested in: - NVidia TNT, and - Voodoo3 3D boards. In MSWindows reviews, Voodoo3 sounds like the fastest PCI performer. And it appears that Voodoo3 "may" be supported in XFree86: http://www.xfree86.org/snapshots/3.9.15/RELNOTES1.html#10 (glide is listed). But I've not heard from someone who has a Voodoo3 working with an XFree86 4.0 pre-release, to what extent it is functional, and how much of the driver source code is freely available (to factor in long-term support). ---------- Anyone have a Voodoo3 working in 2D/3D with XFree86? ---------- Thanks, Randall TNT/TNT2 GLX links: Jordon: http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/tnt.html and: http://glx.on.openprojects.net/faq.html http://www.nvidia.com/developer.nsf/htmlmedia/devMainFR_top.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 8:22:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9112D14CF6 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-104.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.104]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05399; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA02159; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:24:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:24:29 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Message-ID: <19990801112429.B1342@ipass.net> References: <19990731211129.89220.qmail@hotmail.com> <199908011307.PAA01148@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199908011307.PAA01148@oranje.my.domain>; from Marc van Woerkom on Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 03:07:39PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc van Woerkom: |TNT-2 and TNT-2 Ultra cards are for sale here. ... |Plus I've seen some cheap brand I don't know how to value it. |They offer a 32 MB "TNT2 Model 64" (whatever that is) for less than a |brand name TNT board. | | http://www.powertech-electronics.de/mn_grafikkarten.html Quick question on TNT2. It sounds like the top-performer with Voodoo3 neck-and-neck or not far behind, depending on the game. But I've yet to see a PCI version of a TNT2-based board. Is there such a thing? Or does TNT2 imply an AGP interface? Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 8:35:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5895914CA6; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-104.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.104]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06644; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA02470; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:37:09 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Message-ID: <19990801113709.A2171@ipass.net> References: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> <199907312213.SAA11281@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199907312213.SAA11281@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 06:13:45PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Louis A. Mamakos: |> I'm looking for recommendations for a good 3D board (PCI) that has 2D |> & 3D hardware support in the new XFree86 pre-4.0 release. I'd prefer that |> it support 3D-in-a-window and >= 1280x1024 resolution. Voodoo3? Riva128? |> RivaTNT? | |Just today I put a Matrox G400 in my FreeBSD box, and am running the |XFree86 3.3.4 server. Seems to work well for 2D stuff. Slick. What's the highest resolution and color depth it sports under XFree86? Does it support 3D in all modes? (I've got a 21-inch monitor, so ideally I'd like > 1280x1024.) Also, how does your Hauppauge WinCast TV/dbx card work with bktr/fxtv on the G400? (DGA TV card support for my next video card is a must! :-) |I'm also playing around right now with some GLX-based 3D in a window stuff |with this board. The Matrox seems to be pretty well supported by the |folks doing the Mesa-in-the-X-server work (http://glx.on.openprojects.net/) |I wend with the G400 rather than the RivaTNT since the current GLX support |for the TNT only works in 15/16 bits per pixel, and I really wanted a 24/32 |bit deep display. | |So far, so good. Only got the X server to hang once :-) Seriously, I now |need to make sure that I'm using the recommended version of Mesa for the |loadable module in the X server (rather than what was laying around in |my ports directory). But it's not doomed to be completely busted since |I got the OpenGL screensaves in xlock to go *really* fast compared to |software rendering. Great! Thanks for the feedback. I'd be interested in whatever else you try out regarding 3D-in-window support. Also, if you give an XFree86 4.0 prerelease a shot (3.9.15), I'd sure appreciate a Cc of your results. Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 9: 6:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E5214D72; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-104.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.104]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09917; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id MAA03408; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:08:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:08:34 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Message-ID: <19990801120834.A3025@ipass.net> References: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> <199907312213.SAA11281@whizzo.transsys.com> <19990801113709.A2171@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990801113709.A2171@ipass.net>; from Randall Hopper on Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 11:37:09AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper: |Slick. What's the highest resolution and color depth it sports under |XFree86? Does it support 3D in all modes? (I've got a 21-inch monitor, so |ideally I'd like > 1280x1024.) I see the G400 is an AGP-only video card. Darn. It looks like the G200 is candidate though... I'll have to research it. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 9: 7:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F0214D7F; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:07:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14009; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:07:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199908011607.MAA14009@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend References: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> <199907312213.SAA11281@whizzo.transsys.com> <19990801113709.A2171@ipass.net> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Aug 1999 11:37:09 EDT." <19990801113709.A2171@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 12:07:29 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Louis A. Mamakos: > |> I'm looking for recommendations for a good 3D board (PCI) that has 2D > |> & 3D hardware support in the new XFree86 pre-4.0 release. I'd prefer that > |> it support 3D-in-a-window and >= 1280x1024 resolution. Voodoo3? Riva128? > |> RivaTNT? > | > |Just today I put a Matrox G400 in my FreeBSD box, and am running the > |XFree86 3.3.4 server. Seems to work well for 2D stuff. > > Slick. What's the highest resolution and color depth it sports under > XFree86? Does it support 3D in all modes? (I've got a 21-inch monitor, so > ideally I'd like > 1280x1024.) I'm running it in 1280x1024x32 right now on a 19" monitor. Note that it also support 1280x1024x24 (packed), but as usual, netscrape doesn't deal well with that sort of display. It has 32MB of memory on board and I think you can go well over 1280x1024 at 32bpp without problem. As I understand it, you begin to make some tradeoffs on how much memory is left over on the board for textures. In my case, I'm primarily concerned with how well it works in 2D mode, with 3D accelleration coming next. That's why I went with the G400 as I was unwilling to run at 16bpp as the TNT software currently requires. > Also, how does your Hauppauge WinCast TV/dbx card work with bktr/fxtv on > the G400? (DGA TV card support for my next video card is a must! :-) Yup, this seems to work just fine. There appears to be a bug when trying to switch back from 640x480 "full screen" mode. This is still an improvement over my previous configuration with the #9 Motion 771 S3-968 based board, where switching into 640x480 mode would not work that great. > |I'm also playing around right now with some GLX-based 3D in a window stuff > |with this board. The Matrox seems to be pretty well supported by the > |folks doing the Mesa-in-the-X-server work (http://glx.on.openprojects.net/) > |I wend with the G400 rather than the RivaTNT since the current GLX support > |for the TNT only works in 15/16 bits per pixel, and I really wanted a 24/32 > |bit deep display. > | > |So far, so good. Only got the X server to hang once :-) Seriously, I now > |need to make sure that I'm using the recommended version of Mesa for the > |loadable module in the X server (rather than what was laying around in > |my ports directory). But it's not doomed to be completely busted since > |I got the OpenGL screensaves in xlock to go *really* fast compared to > |software rendering. > > Great! Thanks for the feedback. I'd be interested in whatever else you > try out regarding 3D-in-window support. Also, if you give an XFree86 4.0 > prerelease a shot (3.9.15), I'd sure appreciate a Cc of your results. I've been playing around with xlock just to see the pretty screensavers zip along, as well as with vtk (/usr/ports/math/vtk) which is a visualization toolkit. Pretty much all the testing I've been doing (and all of vtk) has been in a window, rather than full-screen mode. I haven't had a chance to try the 4.0 prerelease yet, but hope to eventually get around to it. I got my G400 from the local computer-store-hole-in-the-wall for $189. Note this was for the OEM version which has the 300MHz RAMDAC and lacks the second display output. It has 32MB of SGRAM on board. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 9:31:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E61E14CF1 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial12-166.netcologne.de [194.8.196.166]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07044; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:31:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04974; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:29:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:29:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199908011629.SAA04974@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: aa8vb@ipass.net Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990801112429.B1342@ipass.net> (message from Randall Hopper on Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:24:29 -0400) Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <19990731211129.89220.qmail@hotmail.com> <199908011307.PAA01148@oranje.my.domain> <19990801112429.B1342@ipass.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > But I've yet to see a PCI version of a TNT2-based board. > Is there such a thing? I have seen none. That's why I bought a TNT-PCI card - don't want to change board, processor and maybe case (AT->ATX transition) until the K7 has shown up. > Or does TNT2 imply an AGP interface? Possible. AGP bandwith is 2x or 4x of PCI. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 1 11:31:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EEC14C86 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-237.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.237]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25254; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id OAA06946; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:32:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:32:57 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Message-ID: <19990801143257.B6460@ipass.net> References: <19990731211129.89220.qmail@hotmail.com> <199908011307.PAA01148@oranje.my.domain> <19990801112429.B1342@ipass.net> <199908011629.SAA04974@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199908011629.SAA04974@oranje.my.domain>; from Marc van Woerkom on Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 06:29:49PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc van Woerkom: |That's why I bought a TNT-PCI card - don't want to change board, |processor and maybe case (AT->ATX transition) until the K7 has |shown up. I have the same goal. This'll be my last upgrade for this amazing ASUS P55T2P4. - K6-III 400MHz to replace my P-233MMX, - Powerleap module (just to be safe), and - New PCI 2D/3D combo card to replace two PCI video cards. Ideally near P-III performance, without having to bother with Slot 1/2/etc. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 0:52:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6741C14FDB; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:52:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial4-119.netcologne.de [195.14.233.119]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05578; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:52:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10101; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:50:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:50:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199908020750.JAA10101@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86 3.3.4 and RIVA 3d acceleration Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have put a port on http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-vanwoma/opengl that enables 3d hardware acceleration under XFree86 3.3.4 for RIVA chip based cards. Feel free to test it! And report problems please. G200 users: I have had no time yet to change some bits for use with Matrox cards. However it might work if you delete that "-with-chipset=tnt" expression. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 1:39:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4559014F3A for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA77852; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:42:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:42:53 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Randall Hopper Cc: Marc van Woerkom , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend In-Reply-To: <19990801112429.B1342@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > Marc van Woerkom: > |TNT-2 and TNT-2 Ultra cards are for sale here. > ... > |Plus I've seen some cheap brand I don't know how to value it. > |They offer a 32 MB "TNT2 Model 64" (whatever that is) for less than a > |brand name TNT board. > | > | http://www.powertech-electronics.de/mn_grafikkarten.html > > Quick question on TNT2. It sounds like the top-performer with Voodoo3 > neck-and-neck or not far behind, depending on the game. But I've yet to > see a PCI version of a TNT2-based board. Is there such a thing? Or does > TNT2 imply an AGP interface? I think its possible to get TNT2 with PCI. Someone told me that future nvidia boards will be AGP only though which really sucks since none of my alphas have AGP and I don't think alphas will ever have AGP. It also makes it impossible to use them in a multihead configuration since I think AGP is limited to exactly one slot. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 1:39:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94EE14F31 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA77856; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:44:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:44:10 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: aa8vb@ipass.net, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend In-Reply-To: <199908011629.SAA04974@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > But I've yet to see a PCI version of a TNT2-based board. > > Is there such a thing? > > I have seen none. > > That's why I bought a TNT-PCI card - don't want to change board, > processor and maybe case (AT->ATX transition) until the K7 has > shown up. > > > > Or does TNT2 imply an AGP interface? > > Possible. AGP bandwith is 2x or 4x of PCI. AGP is 2x or 4x 32bit PCI at 33Mhz. 64bit PCI at 66Mhz matches AGP speeds without reinventing the wheel... -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 10: 1:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9417D151B1 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: from whistle.com (crab.whistle.com [207.76.205.112]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04963 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by whistle.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA97273 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199908021658.JAA97273@whistle.com> Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend In-Reply-To: from Doug Rabson at "Aug 2, 99 09:44:10 am" To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:58:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson writes: | On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: | > Possible. AGP bandwith is 2x or 4x of PCI. | AGP is 2x or 4x 32bit PCI at 33Mhz. 64bit PCI at 66Mhz matches AGP speeds | without reinventing the wheel... Yep, I hate AGP ... my guess is Intel had trouble making a real PCI slot work like it is supposed to so they invented AGP so they only had to make one separate PCI slot work. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 10:18: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat200.74.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.200.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE14214D49 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:17:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA00916; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:17:07 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:17:06 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Doug Ambrisko Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend In-Reply-To: <199908021658.JAA97273@whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Doug Ambrisko wrote: > Doug Rabson writes: > | On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > | > Possible. AGP bandwith is 2x or 4x of PCI. > | AGP is 2x or 4x 32bit PCI at 33Mhz. 64bit PCI at 66Mhz matches AGP speeds > | without reinventing the wheel... > > Yep, I hate AGP ... my guess is Intel had trouble making a real PCI slot > work like it is supposed to so they invented AGP so they only had to > make one separate PCI slot work. I like the AGP...I still have the same number of slots on my motherboard that I ever had, but one less used up since they add'd the AGP. If they had taken away a slot to give me AGP, then, ya, I'd have to agree, but now instead of 7 slots, I have 8 *shrug* Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 12:20:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dqc.org (dqc.org [12.7.119.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180F714E78 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@dqc.org) Received: by dqc.org (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 4539B216B; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dqc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2493C for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: just matt To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I like the AGP...I still have the same number of slots on my motherboard > that I ever had, but one less used up since they add'd the AGP. If they > had taken away a slot to give me AGP, then, ya, I'd have to agree, but now > instead of 7 slots, I have 8 *shrug* Only 7 are accessible though due to a couple of your slots in a shared configuration. All standard atx cases only have 7 slots available anyway. I'll stop now cause this is really off topic for this mailing list. > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 14:23:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gate.hentschel.net (gate.hentschel.net [216.200.30.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C7014C36 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gate.hentschel.net) Received: from mail.hentschel.net (dorothy [192.168.1.2]) by gate.hentschel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09636 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:33:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gate.hentschel.net) Message-Id: <199908020433.VAA09636@gate.hentschel.net> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 22:30:30 -0700 (PDT) From: thomas@spam.no.hentschel.net Subject: Fwd: Astra 1200S & FreeBSD To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Forwarded to -multimedia, maybe someone over here can help :) > > ------ Forwarded message ------ > From: thomas@hentschel.net > Subject: Astra 1200S & FreeBSD (Astra 1200 again ...) > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:47:43 -0700 (PDT) > To: sane-devel@mostang.com > > > Hi all, > I came into possesion of a umax Astra 1200S, and would like to > get it going on my FreeBSD machine. Here is the problem : > > # scanimage --list-devices > device `umax:/dev/scanner' is a UMAX Astra 1200S flatbed scanner > device `pnm:0' is a Noname PNM file reader virtual device > device `pnm:1' is a Noname PNM file reader virtual device > > After upping SANE_DEBUG_UMAX, I get the following output, where > irrelevant parts are snipped for brevity : > > # scanimage -d umax > output.ppm > .... > [umax] fast preview function = 0 > [umax] trying to reposition scanner ... > [umax] wait_scanner > > that's were scanimage hangs and the following messages appear > > [umax] scanner reports Device busy, waiting ... > Aug 1 17:02:15 dorothy /kernel: uk1(aha0:4:1): timed out > > if the scanner now get's power-cycled, it continues on until : > ... > [umax] scanner ready > [umax] reader_process: buffer of 17850 bytes read; 0 bytes to go > [umax] reader_process: finished reading data > ... > [umax] sane_read: read 0 bytes > [umax] do_cancel > [umax] killing reader_process > [umax] reader_process killed > [umax] trying to reposition scanner ... > [umax] wait_scanner > [umax] scanner ready > [umax] scanner repositioned > [umax] trying to release scanner ... > [umax] wait_scanner > > Here it stops again (same messages as above) and another power cycle > is in order, then it goes : > > [umax] scanner ready > [umax] scanner released > [umax] closing scannerdevice filedescriptor > [umax] close_pipe > [umax] sane_cancel > [umax] sane_close > [umax] sane_exit > > which then completes the scan. > > Here is the machine info : Pentium 133 / 32 Meg > FreeBSD 2.2.8 release > SCSI host adaptor is a adaptec 1542 CP which get's > detected as follows : > > aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 12 drq 5 on isa > > I've changed the BIOS settings as per suggestion in the mailing > list archives and disabled disconnect/reconnect. > > the Scanner is a umax astra 1200 S-C, Firmware Rev. 3.1, > detectet as follows : > > (aha0:4:0): "UMAX Astra 1200S V3.1" type 6 fixed SCSI 2 > > uk0(aha0:4:0): Unknown > > (aha0:4:1): "UMAX Astra 1200S V3.1" type 6 fixed SCSI 2 > > uk1(aha0:4:1): Unknown > > I'm running SANE-1.0.1 > /dev/scanner is symlinked to /dev/uk1 > > I've read the recent thread with Lee Nevo, where it turned out > to be a SCSI termination problem, so I went off buying new > (shorter) cables and rearranged the external SCSI bus to be > terminated by a device with active termination (External > CD-ROM) -- the problem is to get a 25DB active terminator, so I > opted for this solution -- same problem persists. The total > cable lenght now is ~ 120 cm, there are no devices on the > internal side of the host adaptor and the host adaptor is set to > terminate. > > The reason why I don't think that this is a termination problem > is that those problem should show a bit more "randomness". I've > run it ~ 50 times now, changing configurations etc. and it > ALWAYS shows the exact same behavior (unless I leave the > termination off altogether, then it doesn't even start talking > to the scanner). > In addition, it hangs on the first "[umax] trying to reposition > scanner ...", but it succesfully completes the second one after > it's done scanning... > > There was also a mentioning of the astra 1200S with Firmware > Rev. 2.9 and ext. Power-supply "could make problems" on Olivers > Site > http://www.wolfsburg.de/~rauch/sane/sane-umax-scanners-doc.html > Anyone know if that's still the case with Rev. 3.1 and does > anyone know what the exact symptoms of the problems are ?? > > Thanks in advance if anyone could shed a light on this. If more > information is needed I'm happy to provide what's necessary. > > Thanks > > -Th > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 15:39:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA5C15025 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial1-49.netcologne.de [194.8.196.49]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26070; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:38:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA04564; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:36:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@oranje.my.domain) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:36:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199908022236.AAA04564@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to marc@oranje.my.domain using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: dfr@nlsystems.com Cc: aa8vb@ipass.net, van.woerkom@netcologne.de, multimedia@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug Rabson on Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:42:53 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Someone told me that future nvidia boards will be AGP only though > which really sucks since none of my alphas have AGP and I don't think > alphas will ever have AGP. I first thought AGP was just a PCI bus run at 2x33 MHz or even 4x33 MHz. But there must be more to it, if you say that alpha boards don't feature AGP. Embrace & extend tactics from Intel? Just out of curiosity: I understand that the PCI bus specs are CPU independent, but what is with the BIOS on a PCI card, isn't that written in x86 code? Does a non x86 system like alpha simply ignore the BIOS? > It also makes it impossible to use them in a multihead configuration > since I think AGP is limited to exactly one slot. Intersting. Which brings me to another question - I pulled the old RIVA 128 card, I wonder if I could have let it stay in the system together with the TNT. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 15:51:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B7114F9D for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk) Received: from doyle.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (richard@doyle [129.215.110.29]) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01996; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:50:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:50:20 +0100 Message-Id: <17241.199908022250@doyle.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, dfr@nlsystems.com In-Reply-To: Marc van Woerkom's message of Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:36:59 +0200 (CEST) Organization: just say no Cc: aa8vb@ipass.net, van.woerkom@netcologne.de, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I understand that the PCI bus specs are CPU independent, but what is with > the BIOS on a PCI card, isn't that written in x86 code? Of course, not all cards have any BIOS. And some which do come in different versions with different firmware. I have seen Adaptec PCI SCSI cards with Sparc "open boot" roms. Since real operating systems (tm) don't use the BIOS except during boot, this only matters for controllers for bootable devices. As to what happens if you use a card with the wrong BIOS, I don't know. "No BIOS found, insert ROM to continue", perhaps. -- Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 15:57:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D8514FB2; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:57:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-88.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.88]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22647; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:56:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA05310; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:59:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:59:01 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Message-ID: <19990802185901.A4639@ipass.net> References: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> <199907312213.SAA11281@whizzo.transsys.com> <19990801113709.A2171@ipass.net> <199908011607.MAA14009@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199908011607.MAA14009@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 12:07:29PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Louis A. Mamakos: |I've been playing around with xlock just to see the pretty screensavers |zip along, as well as with vtk (/usr/ports/math/vtk) which is a visualization |toolkit. Pretty much all the testing I've been doing (and all of vtk) has |been in a window, rather than full-screen mode. Yeah, VTK and IBM Data Explorer are the two main power apps I have in mind running on the board. I use both at home and at work, though they're sweeter on the SGIs at work of course. :-) Looking forward to closing that 3D performance gap a bit, for SciVis tools and games. (BTW, I can't figure why anyone put the VTK port in the math directory. VTK = Visualization Toolkit = graphics / scientific visualization. Oh well, if everything made sense we'd all be bored.) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 16: 1:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from Tuna.Novellus.Com (Tuna.Novellus.Com [198.211.186.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFADB14FE0 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Hentschel@Novellus.Com) Received: from cliff.novellus.com ("port 4844"@cliff.novellus.com) by Tuna.Novellus.Com (PMDF V5.1-8 #18109) with ESMTP id <01JEAQ4S3N1C0004W7@Tuna.Novellus.Com> for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by cliff.novellus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:00:00 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:00:36 -0700 From: "Hentschel, Thomas" Subject: FW: Fwd: Astra 1200S & FreeBSD To: "'freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forwarded to -multimedia, maybe someone over here can help :) ------ Forwarded message ------ From: thomas@ no.hentschel.net.spam Subject: Astra 1200S & FreeBSD (Astra 1200 again ...) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:47:43 -0700 (PDT) To: sane-devel@mostang.com Hi all, I came into possesion of a umax Astra 1200S, and would like to get it going on my FreeBSD machine. Here is the problem : # scanimage-list-devices device 'umax:/dev/scanner' is a UMAX Astra 1200S flatbed scanner device 'pnm:0' is a Noname PNM file reader virtual device device 'pnm:1' is a Noname PNM file reader virtual device After upping SANE_DEBUG_UMAX, I get the following output, where irrelevant parts are snipped for brevity : # scanimage -d umax > output.ppm .... [umax] fast preview function = 0 [umax] trying to reposition scanner ... [umax] wait_scanner that's were scanimage hangs and the following messages appear [umax] scanner reports Device busy, waiting ... Aug 1 17:02:15 dorothy /kernel: uk1(aha0:4:1): timed out if the scanner now get's power-cycled, it continues on until : ... [umax] scanner ready [umax] reader_process: buffer of 17850 bytes read; 0 bytes to go [umax] reader_process: finished reading data ... [umax] sane_read: read 0 bytes [umax] do_cancel [umax] killing reader_process [umax] reader_process killed [umax] trying to reposition scanner ... [umax] wait_scanner [umax] scanner ready [umax] scanner repositioned [umax] trying to release scanner ... [umax] wait_scanner Here it stops again (same messages as above) and another power cycle is in order, then it goes : [umax] scanner ready [umax] scanner released [umax] closing scannerdevice filedescriptor [umax] close_pipe [umax] sane_cancel [umax] sane_close [umax] sane_exit which then completes the scan. Here is the machine info : Pentium 133 / 32 Meg FreeBSD 2.2.8 release SCSI host adaptor is a adaptec 1542 CP which get's detected as follows : > aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 12 drq 5 on isa I've changed the BIOS settings as per suggestion in the mailing list archives and disabled disconnect/reconnect. the Scanner is a umax astra 1200 S-C, Firmware Rev. 3.1, detectet as follows : > (aha0:4:0): "UMAX Astra 1200S V3.1" type 6 fixed SCSI 2 > uk0(aha0:4:0): Unknown > (aha0:4:1): "UMAX Astra 1200S V3.1" type 6 fixed SCSI 2 > uk1(aha0:4:1): Unknown I'm running SANE-1.0.1 /dev/scanner is symlinked to /dev/uk1 I've read the recent thread with Lee Nevo, where it turned out to be a SCSI termination problem, so I went off buying new (shorter) cables and rearranged the external SCSI bus to be terminated by a device with active termination (External CD-ROM) -- the problem is to get a 25DB active terminator, so I opted for this solution-same problem persists. The total cable lenght now is ~ 120 cm, there are no devices on the internal side of the host adaptor and the host adaptor is set to terminate. The reason why I don't think that this is a termination problem is that those problem should show a bit more "randomness". I've run it ~ 50 times now, changing configurations etc. and it ALWAYS shows the exact same behavior (unless I leave the termination off altogether, then it doesn't even start talking to the scanner). In addition, it hangs on the first "[umax] trying to reposition scanner ...", but it succesfully completes the second one after it's done scanning... There was also a mentioning of the astra 1200S with Firmware Rev. 2.9 and ext. Power-supply "could make problems" on Olivers Site http://www.wolfsburg.de/~rauch/sane/sane-umax-scanners-doc.html Anyone know if that's still the case with Rev. 3.1 and does anyone know what the exact symptoms of the problems are ?? Thanks in advance if anyone could shed a light on this. If more information is needed I'm happy to provide what's necessary. Thanks -Th To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 20:26:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579FE14EE1 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA08033; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:26:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199908030326.XAA08033@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Ambrisko Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend References: <199908021658.JAA97273@whistle.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:58:28 PDT." <199908021658.JAA97273@whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 23:26:31 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Doug Rabson writes: > | On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > | > Possible. AGP bandwith is 2x or 4x of PCI. > | AGP is 2x or 4x 32bit PCI at 33Mhz. 64bit PCI at 66Mhz matches AGP speeds > | without reinventing the wheel... > > Yep, I hate AGP ... my guess is Intel had trouble making a real PCI slot > work like it is supposed to so they invented AGP so they only had to > make one separate PCI slot work. Well, there is a bit more to it than that. I think the AGP slot (and associated support chips) also include a mapping capability so that the AGP peripheral can do DMA bus cycles to virtual addresses you hand to it. This could be handy so that you don't need contiguous physical memory for texture maps, etc. Of course I'm sure this is some new invention, totally unlike the UNIBUS mapping registers we used in the dark ages. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 2 21:12:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from web1006.mail.yahoo.com (web1006.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4194A14CA9 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvmcg@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990803041238.12562.rocketmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.29.199.43] by web1006.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 21:12:38 PDT Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:12:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian McGroarty Reply-To: brian@pobox.com Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend To: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Doug Ambrisko Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know anything about the UNIBUS - what was the concept there? For passive components, there's pretty much no difference between AGP and PCI. With the early video cards, they pretty much put different connecters on the cards to be able to sell an AGP card as soon as possible. With newer cards, some of the main advantages are: Shorter prologs/epilogs for DMA operations - this allows more effective scatter gather operations. Of AGP, PCI, RAM and the CPU, two pairs of two can be communicating with each other at once - this means AGP can talk to RAM while the CPU is bothering itself with PCI components. Ditto AGP and PCI communicating while the CPU's banging on RAM. AGP can transfer data on the rise and fall of a clock cycle - 66mhz * 64 bit * 2 xfers. (I'm not sure how widely implemented this last is.) --- "Louis A. Mamakos" wrote: > > Doug Rabson writes: > > | On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > | > Possible. AGP bandwith is 2x or 4x of PCI. > > | AGP is 2x or 4x 32bit PCI at 33Mhz. 64bit PCI at 66Mhz > matches AGP speeds > > | without reinventing the wheel... > > > > Yep, I hate AGP ... my guess is Intel had trouble making a > real PCI slot > > work like it is supposed to so they invented AGP so they > only had to > > make one separate PCI slot work. > > Well, there is a bit more to it than that. I think the AGP > slot (and > associated support chips) also include a mapping capability so > that the > AGP peripheral can do DMA bus cycles to virtual addresses you > hand to > it. This could be handy so that you don't need contiguous > physical > memory for texture maps, etc. > > Of course I'm sure this is some new invention, totally unlike > the > UNIBUS mapping registers we used in the dark ages. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Aug 3 0:36:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9011F1525E for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA53819; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:41:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:41:10 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Cc: aa8vb@ipass.net, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend In-Reply-To: <199908022236.AAA04564@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > Someone told me that future nvidia boards will be AGP only though > > which really sucks since none of my alphas have AGP and I don't think > > alphas will ever have AGP. > > I first thought AGP was just a PCI bus run at 2x33 MHz or even 4x33 MHz. > But there must be more to it, if you say that alpha boards don't feature > AGP. Embrace & extend tactics from Intel? I think so. I'm not sure of the exact details but I think it is either Intel specific or it is patent protected. > > > Just out of curiosity: > > I understand that the PCI bus specs are CPU independent, but what is with > the BIOS on a PCI card, isn't that written in x86 code? > > Does a non x86 system like alpha simply ignore the BIOS? The firmware in my alphas includes an x86 emulator for running the BIOS on VGA cards and sometimes SCSI cards. Fortunately, no useful operating system needs to rely on this method to actually use the card. > > > > It also makes it impossible to use them in a multihead configuration > > since I think AGP is limited to exactly one slot. > > Intersting. > Which brings me to another question - I pulled the old RIVA 128 card, > I wonder if I could have let it stay in the system together with the TNT. Its quite possible that the RIVA128 would co-exist with the TNT. I'm pretty sure that you can have >1 TNTs in a box. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Aug 3 21:49:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from 42interactive.com (greimann.erols.com [209.122.149.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11DD14EAF for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:49:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ed@42interactive.com) Received: from 207-172-116-175.s48.as3.dwt.pa.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-116-175.s48.as3.dwt.pa.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.116.175]) by 42interactive.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09204 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 00:53:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ed@42interactive.com) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 00:46:59 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Ed Vander Bush To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: dell onboard sound Message-ID: X-X-Sender: ed@free.threeprime.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am running FreeBSD 3.2 on a DELL optiplex P1333 with onboard sound. I cannot for the life of my figure out what the device is and how to config it... Any ideas? ED Ed Vander Bush ed@42interactive.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Aug 3 22:14:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEB114D64; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20570; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:12:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:12:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908040512.HAA20570@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kodak DC240 camera USB download utility Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, A first alpha version of my picture download utility for the Kodak DC240 camera is available, it's called ``oPhoto''. It has been tested with the following environment: - Kodak DC240 - FreeBSD 4.0-19990726-CURRENT (i386) - Uni-processor (non-SMP) system - UHCI intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller This utility will not work with non-Kodak cameras. Don't even try it. It _might_ work with other Kodak cameras that have a USB interface, e.g. the DC265. However, I'm not able test that (I only have a DC240). Other FreeBSD versions: I haven't tried any. It might work with older versions of 4.0-current or 3.2-stable (not tested!), but it will most probably not work with anything older than 3.2-Release. I haven't tested NetBSD, it might work, too. And I have no idea if it works on any non-i386 platforms (e.g. Alpha/AXP). I guess it doesn't. I've had some strange problems with an SMP box, but I'm not sure if that's a driver bug or a hardware problem. It didn't even recognize the camera at all, and ``devlist'' reported errors. I've read somewhere that the current OHCI driver does not support so-called bulk endpoints, which are used by the Kodak DC240. If that's true, only UHCI controllers will work for now. Here are the URLs: http://www.fromme.com/ophoto/ http://dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/ophoto/ The first URL is the "canonical" one, but there seem to be network problems right now, so please use the second URL. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 1:27:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from ren.detir.qld.gov.au (ns.detir.qld.gov.au [203.46.81.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0712514C28 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:27:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.detir.qld.gov.au; id SAA18564; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:26:03 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.detir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.detir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma018535; Wed, 4 Aug 99 18:25:39 +1000 Received: from atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (atlas.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA13464; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:25:38 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (nymph.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24899; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:25:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (localhost.detir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA10016; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:25:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199908040825.SAA10016@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: vallo@matti.ee Cc: syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: 3d in 1280x1024 References: <199907311105.NAA04974@oranje.my.domain> In-Reply-To: <199907311105.NAA04974@oranje.my.domain> from Marc van Woerkom at "Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:05:07 +0200" Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 18:25:36 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 31st July 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: >> How the RIVA based cards compare to Matrox ones in the case of 2D >> quality? > >Hard to judge, as I don't use the same monitors at home (RIVA) and at >work (G200). > >A nice Sony Trinitron or a good LCD display (slow but no distortions) >is something I notice, differences among cards I usually spot only when the >cards are horrible. And the nvidia cards are good enough for me so far. > >> All usual references in the 'Net say that RIVA cards have below >> average 2D quality but I haven't tried myself. > >Was this not rather due to 3d issues (different MIP mapping or so)? No, just pure 2D. Differences in 3D quality are a separate matter. A recent quote from AnandTech: The 2D image quality of the Gigabyte GA-660 follows the pattern of other TNT2's out there - it is fine at resolutions up to 1280 x 1024, but at 1600 x 1200 the image quality takes a noticeable dive. Although it is noticeably better than the best TNT cards in terms of 2D image quality most TNT2 based cards, aren't too friendly on your eyes at 1600 x 1200 and above. That quote from: http://www.anandtech.com/html/review_display.cfm?document=1006&pagenum=2 I'm also trying to decide between TNT2 and G400. I already have a G200 and its 2D is excellent. But now I have a gaming machine to kit out too. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 6:56:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from arthur.caida.org (arthur.caida.org [204.212.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B84C14C46 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 06:56:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwm@arthur.caida.org) Received: from arthur.caida.org (localhost.caida.org [127.0.0.1]) by arthur.caida.org (8.9.0/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id JAA57940; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908041354.JAA57940@arthur.caida.org> Location: CAIDA Ann Arbor, MI To: Stephen McKay Cc: Marc van Woerkom , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, vallo@matti.ee Subject: Re: 3d in 1280x1024 In-reply-to: Message from of Wed Aug 4, 1999 18:25 +1000 <199908040825.SAA10016@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:54:20 -0400 From: Daniel McRobb Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Saturday, 31st July 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > >> How the RIVA based cards compare to Matrox ones in the case of 2D > >> quality? > > > >Hard to judge, as I don't use the same monitors at home (RIVA) and at > >work (G200). > > > >A nice Sony Trinitron or a good LCD display (slow but no distortions) > >is something I notice, differences among cards I usually spot only when the > >cards are horrible. And the nvidia cards are good enough for me so far. > > > >> All usual references in the 'Net say that RIVA cards have below > >> average 2D quality but I haven't tried myself. > > > >Was this not rather due to 3d issues (different MIP mapping or so)? > > No, just pure 2D. Differences in 3D quality are a separate matter. A recent > quote from AnandTech: > > The 2D image quality of the Gigabyte GA-660 follows the pattern of other > TNT2's out there - it is fine at resolutions up to 1280 x 1024, but at > 1600 x 1200 the image quality takes a noticeable dive. Although it is > noticeably better than the best TNT cards in terms of 2D image quality > most TNT2 based cards, aren't too friendly on your eyes at 1600 x 1200 > and above. > > That quote from: > http://www.anandtech.com/html/review_display.cfm?document=1006&pagenum=2 Interesting. I recently switched from a Matrox Millenium II 8M PCI card to a Diamond Viper V770 Ultra (TNT2 Ultra chipset), and honestly can't see a difference in image quality (I'm running at 1600x1200 w/ 16bpp and have been for as long as I can remember... several years). And I considered the Matrox card one of the better 2D cards around when I bought it. My monitor is a Viewsonic PT813. Makes me wonder if there's a Windows driver issue (I don't have any Microsoft stuff on my machines). Daniel ~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 7:24:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from tahiti.oss.uswest.net (tahiti.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7F014C46 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pmckenna@uswest.net) Received: from uswest.net (otto.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.81]) by tahiti.oss.uswest.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA38489 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:24:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from pmckenna@uswest.net) Message-ID: <37A84D6D.689DF0B6@uswest.net> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:25:49 -0500 From: Pete Mckenna X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kodak DC240 camera USB download utility References: <199908040512.HAA20570@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a 240 at work so I thought I'd try this. I got to making the devices at it errored. otto:sh MAKEDEV ugen0.1 mknod: 0.1: non-numeric minor number /sbin/mknod ugen0.1 Does something need to be altered to work in 3.2 I'm running stable from June 1st or so. BTW this is what dmesg reported about the controller. usb0: usb0: root device is not a hub I also didn't understand this statment and if it was relavent to my problem. > I've read somewhere that the current OHCI driver does not > support so-called bulk endpoints, which are used by the Kodak > DC240. If that's true, only UHCI controllers will work for > now. Thanks, for creating the driver, and any help you can lend. Pete Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Hi, > > A first alpha version of my picture download utility for the > Kodak DC240 camera is available, it's called ``oPhoto''. It > has been tested with the following environment: > > - Kodak DC240 > - FreeBSD 4.0-19990726-CURRENT (i386) > - Uni-processor (non-SMP) system > - UHCI intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller > > This utility will not work with non-Kodak cameras. Don't even > try it. It _might_ work with other Kodak cameras that have a > USB interface, e.g. the DC265. However, I'm not able test that > (I only have a DC240). > > Other FreeBSD versions: I haven't tried any. It might work > with older versions of 4.0-current or 3.2-stable (not tested!), > but it will most probably not work with anything older than > 3.2-Release. I haven't tested NetBSD, it might work, too. > And I have no idea if it works on any non-i386 platforms (e.g. > Alpha/AXP). I guess it doesn't. > > I've had some strange problems with an SMP box, but I'm not > sure if that's a driver bug or a hardware problem. It didn't > even recognize the camera at all, and ``devlist'' reported > errors. > > I've read somewhere that the current OHCI driver does not > support so-called bulk endpoints, which are used by the Kodak > DC240. If that's true, only UHCI controllers will work for > now. > > Here are the URLs: > > http://www.fromme.com/ophoto/ > http://dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/ophoto/ > > The first URL is the "canonical" one, but there seem to be > network problems right now, so please use the second URL. > > Regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > (Terry Pratchett) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 10: 4:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from diamond.gpad.ac.ru (diamond.gpad.ac.ru [193.233.9.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5138150A7; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@Chg.RU) Received: from cavia.gpad.ac.ru (ppp92.dialup.corbina.ru [195.14.32.92]) by diamond.gpad.ac.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA13341; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:03:20 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from dima@localhost) by cavia.gpad.ac.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00941; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:03:07 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:03:07 +0400 (MSD) From: Dima Sivachenko Message-Id: <199908041703.VAA00941@cavia.gpad.ac.ru> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: MSS audio card Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I am trying to get my Microsoft Sound System card working. I configured kernel with snd0 controller and snd0 device (with default irqs), during the boot process system reports: mss0: at 0x530 irq 10 drq 5 on isa snd0: So it appears that kernel detects sound card. I have FreeBSD-3.2 installed. But when I am trying to cat(1) some audio files to /dev/{audio,music}, it reports: /kernel: PCM device 1 not installed. /kernel: SoundCard: Sequencer not initialized. What's wrong with it? Thank you in advance, Dima. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 10:44:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from itchy.serv.net (itchy.serv.net [205.153.153.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6646615199; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from utz@itchy.serv.net) Received: from localhost (utz@localhost) by itchy.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA53412; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:42:30 -0700 (PDT) From: The Utz Family To: Dima Sivachenko Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MSS audio card In-Reply-To: <199908041703.VAA00941@cavia.gpad.ac.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org did you do a MAKEDEV in your /dev/ dir? su cd /dev sh MAKEDEV snd0 On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Dima Sivachenko wrote: > Hello! > I am trying to get my Microsoft Sound System card working. > I configured kernel with snd0 controller and snd0 device (with default irqs), > during the boot process system reports: > mss0: at 0x530 irq 10 drq 5 on isa > snd0: > So it appears that kernel detects sound card. > > I have FreeBSD-3.2 installed. > > But when I am trying to cat(1) some audio files to /dev/{audio,music}, > it reports: > /kernel: PCM device 1 not installed. > /kernel: SoundCard: Sequencer not initialized. > > What's wrong with it? > > Thank you in advance, > Dima. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 15:30:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A04114D18; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA38372; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kodak DC240 camera USB download utility In-Reply-To: <199908040512.HAA20570@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > A first alpha version of my picture download utility for the > Kodak DC240 camera is available, it's called ``oPhoto''. It > has been tested with the following environment: Er, Ophoto is a product by Apple... the name is probably copyrighted. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 20:36:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2C014BF6; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:36:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-15-174.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.15.174]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA04403; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:35:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA37277; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:20:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199908050320.WAA37277@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Kodak DC240 camera USB download utility In-reply-to: Message from Doug White of "Wed, 04 Aug 1999 15:29:16 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 22:20:37 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug White writes: > On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > A first alpha version of my picture download utility for the > > Kodak DC240 camera is available, it's called ``oPhoto''. It > > has been tested with the following environment: > > Er, Ophoto is a product by Apple... the name is probably copyrighted. A minor nit, product names can not be copyrighted but may be trademarked. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 21: 6:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B33F14D2F; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04399; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:05:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:05:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908050405.GAA04399@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kodak DC240 camera USB download utility Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Kelly wrote in list.freebsd-hardware: > Doug White writes: > > On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > > A first alpha version of my picture download utility for the > > > Kodak DC240 camera is available, it's called ``oPhoto''. It > > > has been tested with the following environment: > > > > Er, Ophoto is a product by Apple... the name is probably copyrighted. > > A minor nit, product names can not be copyrighted but may be > trademarked. Well, I spell it differently ("oPhoto"). ;-) Anyway, it's only the current project title. If there is any trouble with that name, I will rename it. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 21: 8:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FAF14D2F for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04462 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:08:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:08:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908050408.GAA04462@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kodak DC240 camera USB download utility Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pete Mckenna wrote in list.freebsd-multimedia: > I have a 240 at work so I thought I'd try this. > I got to making the devices at it errored. > [...] I'm sorry, but it looks like the ugen driver in 3.2 lacks the required support for bulk endpoints. You'll have to upgrade to 4.0-current in order to use the utility. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 4 21:19:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz (xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B491914D2F; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:19:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joerg@lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz) Received: from lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz (joerg@lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.12]) by xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04935; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:18:53 +1200 (NZST) Received: (from joerg@localhost) by lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.0) id QAA04003; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:18:51 +1200 (NZST) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:18:51 +1200 From: Joerg Micheel To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Kodak DC240 camera USB download utility Message-ID: <19990805161851.R24149@cs.waikato.ac.nz> References: <199908050405.GAA04399@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <199908050405.GAA04399@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from Oliver Fromme on Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 06:05:44AM +0200 Organization: SCMS, The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Project: WAND - Waikato Applied Network Dynamics, DAG Operating-System: ... drained by Solaris 7 SPARC Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 06:05:44AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > David Kelly wrote in list.freebsd-hardware: > > Doug White writes: > > > On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > > > > A first alpha version of my picture download utility for the > > > > Kodak DC240 camera is available, it's called ``oPhoto''. It > > > > has been tested with the following environment: > > > > > > Er, Ophoto is a product by Apple... the name is probably copyrighted. > > > > A minor nit, product names can not be copyrighted but may be > > trademarked. > > Well, I spell it differently ("oPhoto"). ;-) > > Anyway, it's only the current project title. If there is > any trouble with that name, I will rename it. Call it oFoto, that matches more of your name :-). Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: Waikato Applied Network Dynamics Phone: +64 7 8384794 The University of Waikato, SCMS Fax: +64 7 8384155 Private Bag 3105 Pager: +64 868 38222 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 5 18:32:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF8515536; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:32:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-180.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.180]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA07757; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:30:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA63246; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:30:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199908060130.UAA63246@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joerg Micheel Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Oliver Fromme From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Kodak DC240 camera USB download utility In-reply-to: Message from Joerg Micheel of "Thu, 05 Aug 1999 16:18:51 +1200." <19990805161851.R24149@cs.waikato.ac.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:30:26 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joerg Micheel writes: > On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 06:05:44AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > Well, I spell it differently ("oPhoto"). ;-) > > > > Anyway, it's only the current project title. If there is > > any trouble with that name, I will rename it. > > Call it oFoto, that matches more of your name :-). Or "OFoto". Or if by any chance Oliver's middle name starts with an H, then "OhFoto". Or "OhFoto!" -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 6 17:17:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 789) id 2121214D13; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:17:34 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 3d Graphics Pages Message-Id: <19990807001734.2121214D13@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:17:34 -0700 (PDT) From: 3d@FreeBSD.ORG (Marc van Woerkom) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear FreeBSD users, I am happy to announce a forthcoming section on the FreeBSD site that is dedicated to the use of 3d graphics: http://www.freebsd.org/~3d If you have useful information that you would like to see there please drop me a mail. It is open to all sorts of graphics cards, APIs and software. More soon.. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Aug 7 18:22:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D30A14BD6; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:22:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk ([158.152.19.238]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DHdl-000KwG-0K; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:20:46 +0000 Received: from nenya (nenya.rings [10.2.4.3]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA19381; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 02:25:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Message-ID: <000901bee13c$b1831dc0$0304020a@rings> From: "Cameron Grant" To: , Subject: it's time... Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 02:23:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org to let newpcm out of the cage so you can all get your grubby little hands on it. http://www.vilnya.demon.co.uk/newpcm+dfrpnp-19990807.diff.gz this is a patch against a recent -current. if you have a pci or isapnp soundcard, you should have pnp0 and pcm0 in your kernel config as appropriate. isapnp cards should not need any pnp lines in kernel.conf. the list of supported cards is as for luigi's driver, with the addition of a couple more mss-clones, and trident 4dwave. there is a part done aureal vortex driver which is as yet nonfunctional. mmap() is supported but not well tested. format conversions are supported. the code seems to be stable. please test it and email me success and failure reports. - cameron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message