From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 7 1:28:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from makita.cc.gifu-nct.ac.jp (iwato.gifu-nct.ac.jp [202.223.137.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3985614CB7 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bachng@mail.com) Received: from shosho.archi.gifunct.ac.jp (shosho.archi.gifu-nct.ac.jp [10.28.24.14]) by makita.cc.gifu-nct.ac.jp (2.0 Build 2131 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA03261 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:28:26 +0900 Message-ID: <00fb01beb0bc$ce432640$0e181c0a@archi.gifunct.ac.jp> Reply-To: "Nguyen Huu Bach" From: "Nguyen Huu Bach" To: "freebsd-newbie" Subject: e-config Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:07:36 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After I installed Enlightenment, I try to compile e-config but met the error message while configuring: file capplet-widget.h not found... What can I do now ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 8 3:14:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from makita.cc.gifu-nct.ac.jp (iwato.gifu-nct.ac.jp [202.223.137.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DB914E54 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:14:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bachng@mail.com) Received: from shosho.archi.gifunct.ac.jp (shosho.archi.gifu-nct.ac.jp [10.28.24.14]) by makita.cc.gifu-nct.ac.jp (2.0 Build 2131 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA03707 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:13:49 +0900 Message-ID: <018d01beb194$b445c4e0$0e181c0a@archi.gifunct.ac.jp> Reply-To: "Nguyen Huu Bach" From: "Nguyen Huu Bach" To: "freebsd-newbie" Subject: help Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:53:03 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org when i install EMusic for Enligtenment it demanded thread-safe xlib . What is it anh how can I get it ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 8 3:45:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ot.stpn.soft.net (freebie.opentech.stpn.soft.net [204.143.126.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6E96152A9 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:44:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pdinesh@opentech.stpn.soft.net) Received: from opentech.stpn.soft.net (insomnia.opentech.stpn.soft.net [204.143.126.78]) by ot.stpn.soft.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA23411 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:25:32 +0530 Message-ID: <375CF437.F3904036@opentech.stpn.soft.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:15:12 +0530 From: Dinesh Pal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbie Subject: Router Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have installed a FreeBSD 2.1.0 which is working as a router . It has two Network Interface cards. 1. Very frequently it igives following error message if I do a ping to any system on my internal network. Ping works ok to any system in outside world. We also can not ping this system from any local machine. " ping send to: no buffer space available." 2. System also reports " ix.cx.excesscoll" frequently on the console. I want to know why these error messages are comming and what I should do to rectify them. Thanks in advance. Dinesh Pal System Administartor Open Technologies India Pvt. Ltd. Noida India To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 8 17: 7:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AA4152E5; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA00617; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:08:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199906090008.UAA00617@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Router Problems In-Reply-To: <375CF437.F3904036@opentech.stpn.soft.net> from Dinesh Pal at "Jun 8, 99 04:15:12 pm" To: pdinesh@opentech.stpn.soft.net (Dinesh Pal) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions) Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Dinesh. This is a question much beyond the scope of freebsd-newbies. I am forwarding this to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. I do not have any solid answers, but some comments below... Dinesh Pal wrote, > Hello, > > I have installed a FreeBSD 2.1.0 which is working as a router . You just installed 2.1.0? Do you realize that the present release version of FreeBSD is 3.2? I would suggest upgrading to at least 2.2.8-STABLE[0], if not 3.x-STABLE. > It has two Network Interface cards. > > 1. Very frequently it igives following error message if I do a ping > to any system on my internal network. Ping works ok to any system > in > outside world. We also can not ping this system from any local > machine. > > " ping send to: no buffer space available." > > 2. System also reports " ix.cx.excesscoll" frequently on the console. > > I want to know why these error messages are comming and what I should do > to rectify them. > > Thanks in advance. > > Dinesh Pal > System Administartor > Open Technologies India Pvt. Ltd. > Noida > India [0] The jump from a 2.x.x to 3.x system has some tricks to it. If continuity of service is important, go to 2.2.8 unless you really know what you are doing. If this is a fresh install and you are working out bugs and configuring from scratch, however, might as well start at 3.x-STABLE... my humble opinions of course. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 10 1:38:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nw171.netaddress.usa.net (nw171.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F91614BF6 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:38:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from racer-xxx@usa.net) Received: (qmail 3641 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 1999 08:38:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990610083853.3640.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.71 by nw171 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.135) on Thu Jun 10 08:38:53 GMT 1999 Date: 10 Jun 99 02:38:53 MDT From: Wouldn'tYou LikeToKnow To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.135) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 0f2650c5 subscribe freebsd-newbies racer-xxx@usa.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 10 23:54:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f239.hotmail.com [209.185.130.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAFE11504B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dunaedain@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 65521 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 1999 06:54:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990611065412.65520.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 139.130.250.20 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:54:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [139.130.250.20] From: lachlan kanaley To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:54:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I had freebsd installed on my computer before, but had to delete it because I needed the HD space. To avoid downloading it again I was wondering if anybody in or near Canberra Australia has a copy of freebsd on cd that they could lend/sell to me thanks lachlan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 11 8:14:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from o1.telstra.easymail.com.au (unknown [192.148.129.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54814DEA for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from royman@telstra.easymail.com.au) Received: from telstra.easymail.com.au ([192.148.129.80]) by o1.telstra.easymail.com.au (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA3A8E for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 01:16:08 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 01:16:08 +1000 Message-ID: <7727407B647.AAA3A8E@o1.telstra.easymail.com.au> From: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 0f2650c5 subscribe freebsd-newbies racer-xxx@usa.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 11 9:32:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from intergate.luciamar.k12.ca.us (intergate.luciamar.k12.ca.us [209.129.95.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BF81550D for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:32:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dknapp@luciamar.k12.ca.us) Received: from luciamar.k12.ca.us (intergate.luciamar.k12.ca.us [209.129.95.252]) by intergate.luciamar.k12.ca.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09832; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37613AA7.5A60E25F@luciamar.k12.ca.us> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:34:47 -0700 From: David Knapp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lachlan kanaley Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: loaning Unix CD References: <19990611065412.65520.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You may wish to look here: http://visar.csustan.edu/giveaway_list.txt lachlan kanaley wrote: > > Hello > I had freebsd installed on my computer before, but had to delete it because > I needed the HD space. To avoid downloading it again I was wondering if > anybody in or near Canberra Australia has a copy of freebsd on cd that they > could lend/sell to me > thanks > lachlan > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- David Knapp PC Network Specialist LMUSD 805 473-4390 ext 426 FreeBSD Newbie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 11 19:30:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9AA14E08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA15809 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:30:12 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:30:12 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199906120230.MAA15809@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 30 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 11 19:55:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA8714D13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@marconi.concentric.net) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA19223; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:54:51 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts004d20.mer-id.concentric.net (ts004d20.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.176]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA03301; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:56:51 -0600 (MDT) From: ML Duke X-Sender: mlduke@concentric.net To: Sue Blake Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit In-Reply-To: <199906120230.MAA15809@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about > installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests > are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. A newbie can also get trashed there, without even knowing why. This is not to say some trashings, even most, are not deserved. I was lucky and met my Mentor and now good friend, there, but I have no doubt that many a newbie just gave it up after a few experiences on questions. > FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to > questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. I've been on this list, off and on, for some time. You keep saying the above, even harping on it, it seems, no disrespect intended. Why? What is the harm? We all know questions is the place for answers, but what is wrong with a rank newbie,, or even an experienced one, throwing out a question he/she is not quite sure how to frame on questions to other newbies? If it does not get answered, so be it. I've seen some answered accurately, others did not have a clue and even answered a few (which I always do in private). It is quite beyond me how a forum like this can _avoid_ questions, given the subject matter. But you seem passionate about stopping them. I can only ask, again, why? Please don't just say it's "policy" or something on that order. ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jun 12 1:29:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp (nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp [131.112.148.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EF015145 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 01:29:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (neon.enveng.titech.ac.jp [131.112.148.211]) by nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA11539 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:23:52 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp) To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:56:51 -0600 (MDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990612173059C.masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:30:59 +0900 From: UEBAYASHI Masao X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 6 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It is quite beyond me how a forum like this can _avoid_ questions, given Rename the list as ``freebsd-about-newbies-but-not-for-newbies''. Masao To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jun 12 8:50: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E3414CA5 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from treecat@charm.net) Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04644 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:49:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Dutch Collins To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bought Linux never used it, buying FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yep, just could not see installing it on my machine. So, after getting tired of Telnet-ISP-BSDI I ordered FreeBSD 3.2 from the Mall. Some of my friends at the Linux Group say there is a BSD Group - there is now. It is a group of one, me. And I know nothing, strange world. As a note, go read Sue's article about RCS, saved my but while mucking around my .*rc files in my surfer space on my ISP's machine. (any spelling errors and formatting errors are due to virgin use of Pine 4.05L via ksh (no Xwin ctl-j only), sorry, duh!) later - dutch/quasimoto +------------------------------------------------------+ | Dutch Collins e-mail: treecat@charm.net | | voice:410.922.5805 | | | | No fancy quote here. | +------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jun 12 13:52: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E98A14F8E for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from as_hombert@ibm.net) Received: from ash (slip139-92-48-179.br.be.ibm.net [139.92.48.179]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA218294 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:52:02 GMT From: "Anne-Sophie Hombert" To: "FreeBSD (newbies)" Subject: Booting FreeBSD with Win NT Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:52:02 +0200 Message-ID: <000601beb515$6c0eea10$01010101@ash> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A real newbie question ... I just installed FreeBSD 2.2.8. Since I have also NT running on the system, I did not to install booteasy nor modify the MBR. For the moment I boot FreeBSD from the install disk, using "wd(1,a) kernel" at the boot prompt. The system configuration is as follows (HP vectra, PII 450 Mhz, 128 Mb RAM): - primary HDD (10Gb) entirely dedicated to NT, on the first controller as master - secondary HDD with 2 partitions (4Gb), first controller, slave: a very small DOS partition(7 Mb), just enough to allow HP power management utility to recognize the drive and put it to sleep when it's not used and the rest (so about 4Gb) dedicated to FreeBSD. I have tried to apply the method in the FAQ to boot via NT loader, but it does not work. Now the question : do I have any other options than the boot floppy to load FreeBSD on a system with Win NT installed ? Thanks for your help, Anne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jun 12 17: 5:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FDB14D13 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:05:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18413.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.93]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25136; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA70540; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:06:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:06:06 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: ML Duke Cc: Sue Blake , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Message-ID: <19990612200606.B70348@mad> References: <199906120230.MAA15809@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from ML Duke on Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 08:56:51PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 08:56:51PM -0600, ML Duke wrote: > > > FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to > > questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. > > I've been on this list, off and on, for some time. You keep saying the > above, even harping on it, it seems, no disrespect intended. Why? It's on the contract she signed about a year ago. ;-) When this list was created, most of the, um, dare I call them, Old Guard, were loudly opposed to its creation. Its purpose was far from clear to them, and its backers were never quite able to succinctly summarize its purpose in four words (or less). Nevertheless, freebsd-newbies was ultimately given life as a place where people, not just new to FreeBSD, but intimidated by the whole UNIX aura hovering inside most FreeBSD mailing-lists, could meet. However, there was a caveat: the new mailing list must not damage support structures already in place for user-help. The potential for this was deemed to be very great by Old Guard of the Support Structures. The cells behind this potential are explained semi-regularly courtesy Sue, and I expect a follow-up to your question re-listing them. :) I think, though, that one thing Sue (when I say "backers behind the creation of this mailing list", I really "Sue Blake" --- that's why her name appears here so often...it's not because of my secret plan to take over the mailing-list under her name) (Dope! I just gave away my plan again!!) ... thing Sue doesn't do as well is explain what the purpose of this mailing-list is. Deep down, I believe that's because she doesn't know, but, unfortunately, years of research into human behaviour and other such nonsense argue that there actually is some possibility she does have some legitimate purpose for this list. Think of this as "freebsd-chat", but for people who don't really belong or aren't part of the, I'll do it again, may I say, umm, UNIX club, for the everyday user who just wants to sit down at his/her computer, do some work, learn something, play, whatever, but doesn't really do UNIX, not for a living. It's freebsd-chat for the non-developer. A FreeBSD.ORG-sponsored list where users can get together and bitch about stupid developers who don't write enough documentation, or whatever. Regardless, freebsd-chat is already well-known for being the list where nothing is off-topic. Discussions have ranged from dinner at USENIX, to how-to-do what with FreeBSD, to the correct method of spanking your child. But there is always a very UNIX-hacker feel to the discussions there (even for religous conversations). This is the same list rehashed, but meant for the average person, not the nerdy type that only gets a date on nights when their net connection to freefall is too busy to get any real work done. There. Now that I have thoroughly, or, at least, in some manner after a fashion, offended all those who would normally have agreed with what I am writing, I'd like to say, ML Duke, that I think this list can only, will only, be useful if it is treated as a type of freebsd-chat for newbies. Further, I think you will agree (actually, I'm certain you will agree, but I don't want to sound cocky), that encouraging people to ask questions will take away, perhaps take away severely, from the aspect of the list that I just stated I believe _must_ be emphasized if the world is to be an okay, happy, sex-loving place. [My humour is a little subtle sometimes. This is most certainly not one of those times, but I'll point out that Sue hasn't signed any contracts with either FreeBSD Inc. or little green aliens, to the best of my knowledge.] > Please don't just say it's "policy" or something on that order. Well, that too. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jun 12 17: 6:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E503F14C96 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:06:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kernel@tdnet.com.br) Received: from tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.201] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.00) id A8D6156012C; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:18:30 -0300 Message-ID: <3762CB90.1D1A341@tdnet.com.br> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:05:20 +0000 From: Unknow User X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: quota crash my system Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I read from GNATS that quota can hang 2.2.7-Stable system. I would like to know when will there be a patch to fix the problem, if there is plan to fix it! Thank you for your time and cooperation! -- "The box said 'Requires Windows 98, NT, Linux or better' so I installed FreeBSD." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jun 12 17:50:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E8914C26 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kernel@tdnet.com.br) Received: from tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.194] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.00) id A33B172012C; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:02:51 -0300 Message-ID: <3762D5F5.92792155@tdnet.com.br> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:49:41 +0000 From: Unknow User X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: quota Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Setting quota for a user i get this message as soon as a leave the editor: edquota: /home: cannot change current allocation Does anybody knows what it means ? -- "The box said 'Requires Windows 98, NT, Linux or better' so I installed FreeBSD." 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