From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 00:15:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28594 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA28586 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:15:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02106 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:15:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:15:44 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199901310815.JAA02106@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: current.freebsd.org ? Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > Are current and releng22.freebsd.org offline temporarily or permanently ? I don't know, but I don't hope so. > Are there any alternatives where I can get a 3.0STABLE snapshot from ? You might try ftp7.de.freebsd.org, the directory is /pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/i386. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 04:41:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24509 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:41:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [207.95.42.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24502 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:41:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from enc.edu ([10.1.255.3]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA13000; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:39:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B45051.8B2672DB@enc.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:45:06 -0500 From: Charles Owens X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Polstra , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: no RELENG_3 in my CVSup'd repository? References: <199901291807.KAA14375@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > In article , > Charles Owens wrote: > > > > So, yesterday I did this, usual sort of thing (with CVSROOT pointing at my > > local repository, of course): > > > > cvs co -rRELENG_3 src > > > > ... it starts chewing... I notice that it's not actually extracing any > > sources into my current directory. Not wanting to wait for ever, I abort > > and do the same but for the module "modules". It quickly spits back: > > > > cvs [checkout aborted]: no such tag RELENG_3 > > Be more patient the next time. :-) Run your original command "cvs co > -rRELENG_3 src". (But read the rest of this message first.) Don't > kill it. Go make yourself a pot of coffee, or engage in whatever > personal vice suits you the best. When you come back, you'll discover > that it worked. Ahhh... I had wondered if this might be true. Someone had suggested in another thread that the missing tag gets "added" once any module is successfully checked out. So I'd been trying to check out the module "modules" (as was suggested), which for some reason failed (and still gives an error message). Eventually out of desperation I decided I should try to check out some other, small module. I checked out "crypto"... which, to my surprise, succeeded... and then I tried again with "src" and saw very quickly that it was now working. So... I just needed saving from my self a bit. ;-) Thanks for the help and clarification! > > When cvs is given a symbolic tag to checkout, it first looks in > $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/val-tags to see if the tag is valid. The first time > you try to do this, the tag won't yet be present in val-tags. So > cvs will start searching the entire repository looking for a file > containing the tag. This can take time. Yes, it really searches the > whole repository until it finds the tag, even if you specifically told > it only to check out "src". Since this tag doesn't exist anywhere > outside the src tree, cvs may have to look at a lot of files before it > finds one containing the tag. > > It is possible that by aborting the checkout, you caused cvs to record > that the tag is definitely invalid. (That would be a bug.) Take > a look at your val-tags file and make sure it doesn't have a line > "RELENG_3 n". If it does, either delete the line or change the "n" to > a "y". Then it should all work. > > John > -- > John Polstra jdp@polstra.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA > "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." > -- H. L. Mencken > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 05:32:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28678 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 05:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [207.95.42.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28673 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 05:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from enc.edu ([10.1.255.3]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13284; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:30:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B45C54.82BF98BE@enc.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:36:21 -0500 From: Charles Owens X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Schohn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kingsled@enc.edu, Robert Nordier Subject: Re: disk problem at bootup... (me too!) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg, I believe I'm having the same problem that you are. I had my system running 2.2.7 just fine. I did a clean reinstall of 3.0-RELEASE: during the "fdisk" phase I said to my buddy, "I'm pretty sure that it will _not_ work to make a bootable drive dangerously dedicated." Rather than just go with what I has worked for years I decided to test my assertion by attempting to dangerously dedicate the disk (duh :-). As I'd expected I got an error during the commit phase. So I went back to the fdisk screen, redid things normally, and completed the install. When attempting the first boot I get a "missing operating system" error. I can get into the system by booting from the install floppy and typing "0:da(0,a)/boot/loader" at the first boot prompt. So I'm thinking that my messing around with dangerously dedicated mode must have screwed something up. Thus far I've done this to attempt to fix it: -- Booted the install disk. When to fdisk screen and did the normal thing I'd do during and install: Use all disk (_not_ dangerously dedicated), Set FBSD partition bootable. Then I hit 'W' to write it out. Didn't help. -- From the booted system (getting in via the on-floppy boot sector) I typed both: disklabel -B da0s1 and disklabel -B da0 I'm not quite sure if this was right, but it helped me as much as it helped you. In digging through the mail archives I've found some folks that seem to have had this problem in the past. Several people suggested that the installing DOS MBR via the DOS "fdisk /mbr" command would fix things. Isn't this what the above disklabel commands are supposed to do? What _is_ the correct way to do this from FreeBSD? Not that I'm _entirely_ opposed to doing it with the DOS utility. ;-) (I'm going to give this a try Monday.) Someone else pointed out that some motherboards have a BIOS setting by which the motherboard will prevent the writing of the boot sector... which can mess up FreeBSD install. Good point... I don't think that's my problem here though. I must admit I'm a bit unclear on how this is all arranged. Are there multiple "boot sectors" that get processed during boot up? One "MBR" for the whole disk and then another boot record that lives on each bootable slice? Thanks all, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 07:15:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08941 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:15:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08935; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:15:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:15:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901311515.HAA08935@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com CC: fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <4662.917554348@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: /etc/mail/Makefile doesn't make. References: <4662.917554348@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:12:28 -0800 > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > > How bizarre, there were changes make to /etc/mail/Makefile just a couple > > of months ago. That is what made me try this agian. When I cvsup'd one > > I didn't say that everyone was particularly aware of this; evidently > not, in fact! :-) > > - Jordan > the only thing broken is the ftp from gulf.net. the rest works fine. use it hub all the time. i'll remove the ftp (or fetch whichever we were using) from the makefile. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 08:36:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17204 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:36:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17123 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:35:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01388; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:35:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <36B4865A.DDBBE975@softweyr.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:35:38 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Owens CC: Greg Schohn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kingsled@enc.edu, Robert Nordier Subject: Re: disk problem at bootup... (me too!) References: <36B45C54.82BF98BE@enc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Owens wrote: > > When attempting the first boot I get a "missing operating system" > error. I can get into the system by booting from the install floppy and > typing "0:da(0,a)/boot/loader" at the first boot prompt. > > So I'm thinking that my messing around with dangerously dedicated mode > must have screwed something up. Thus far I've done this to attempt to > fix it: > > -- Booted the install disk. When to fdisk screen and did the normal > thing I'd do during and install: Use all disk (_not_ dangerously > dedicated), Set FBSD partition bootable. Then I hit 'W' to write it > out. Didn't help. You've lost your "boot block", aka the master boot record. On most FreeBSD systems, this is BootEasy, the one that is installed by default. You need to go far enough through the install to get to the point where it asks you if you want to install the boot manager. Answer yes, go on to the next screen, then reboot. Alternatively, you can boot from a DOS floppy or Win95 "start disk" and run the booteasy install program from the FreeBSD CD-ROM. Or just use BeBoot, like I do. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 09:03:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20230 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:03:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from galileo.physics.purdue.edu (galileo.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.67.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20225 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:03:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonsmith@london.physics.purdue.edu) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by galileo.physics.purdue.edu (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20568 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:03:23 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: galileo.physics.purdue.edu: jonsmith owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:03:23 -0500 (EST) From: "The one and only, Psycho Phys Kid..." X-Sender: jonsmith@galileo.physics.purdue.edu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.0-19990130-STABLE boot.flp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FYI This floppy lacks the /boot/loader files (or something to that affect) and will not boot; however, using kernel and mfs floppies located with this file, I was able to boot up and do the install. Jonathan Smith, Physics Computing Network, Purdue University -- "Everywhere I go, there's Jon Smith!" -- Leah Dunlevy Jonathan Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 09:51:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26354 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:51:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m2-20-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26345 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:51:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id TAA04694; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:49:09 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901311749.TAA04694@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: disk problem at bootup... (me too!) In-Reply-To: <36B45C54.82BF98BE@enc.edu> from Charles Owens at "Jan 31, 99 08:36:21 am" To: owensc@enc.edu (Charles Owens) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:49:06 +0200 (SAT) Cc: root@jules.res.cmu.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kingsled@enc.edu, rnordier@nordier.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Owens wrote: > Greg, > > I believe I'm having the same problem that you are. I had my system > running 2.2.7 just fine. I did a clean reinstall of 3.0-RELEASE: > during the "fdisk" phase I said to my buddy, "I'm pretty sure that it > will _not_ work to make a bootable drive dangerously dedicated." Rather > than just go with what I has worked for years I decided to test my > assertion by attempting to dangerously dedicate the disk (duh :-). As > I'd expected I got an error during the commit phase. So I went back to > the fdisk screen, redid things normally, and completed the install. You can boot from an unsliced ("dangerously dedicated") disk; but it's probably best to slice your disks unless you've got really good reasons not to. In particular, unless you're starting with a completely blank disk (where sysinstall detects no slices and no partitions whatever), you don't want to go changing between sliced and unsliced. (However, a blank disk may be what you meant by a "clean reinstall".) > > When attempting the first boot I get a "missing operating system" > error. I can get into the system by booting from the install floppy and > typing "0:da(0,a)/boot/loader" at the first boot prompt. A "Missing operating system" error generally means that the OS- specific bootstrap can't be found by the mbr code. Anyway, the error at least indicates you have working mbr code installed (see below). > > So I'm thinking that my messing around with dangerously dedicated mode > must have screwed something up. Thus far I've done this to attempt to > fix it: > > -- Booted the install disk. When to fdisk screen and did the normal > thing I'd do during and install: Use all disk (_not_ dangerously > dedicated), Set FBSD partition bootable. Then I hit 'W' to write it > out. Didn't help. > > -- From the booted system (getting in via the on-floppy boot sector) I > typed both: > disklabel -B da0s1 > and disklabel -B da0 > I'm not quite sure if this was right, but it helped me as much as it > helped you. Both of those were reasonable things to try. > In digging through the mail archives I've found some folks that seem to > have had this problem in the past. Several people suggested that the > installing DOS MBR via the DOS "fdisk /mbr" command would fix things. > Isn't this what the above disklabel commands are supposed to do? What > _is_ the correct way to do this from FreeBSD? Not that I'm _entirely_ > opposed to doing it with the DOS utility. ;-) (I'm going to give this > a try Monday.) An "fdisk /mbr" will rewrite the mbr code (rather than data). The easiest way to do the same thing from FreeBSD is to use the recent fdisk -b option, but this is available only in -current. You can do the same thing using sysinstall, by instructing it to use a "Standard MBR", but the process is more involved and error-prone. I think the fdisk -b option should probably be back-ported to -stable. However, an "fdisk /mbr" or equivalent is unlikely to help you at this stage (see above). > > Someone else pointed out that some motherboards have a BIOS setting by > which the motherboard will prevent the writing of the boot sector... > which can mess up FreeBSD install. Good point... I don't think that's > my problem here though. Yes, apparently some BIOSes do this. Unless one's using Microsoft OSes exclusively, though, this is probably more trouble than it's worth. > > I must admit I'm a bit unclear on how this is all arranged. Are there > multiple "boot sectors" that get processed during boot up? One "MBR" > for the whole disk and then another boot record that lives on each > bootable slice? The mbr will load sector 0 of the slice. If this has the correct signature (the last two bytes are 0x55, 0xaa), control will be passed to it. What happens after that is OS-specific (and maybe bootstrap-specific). The usual FreeBSD behavior is to load another 14 or 15 consecutive sectors following sector 0 of the slice. Together, these 15 or 16 sectors comprise boot1, the disk label, and boot2. Control is passed (blindly) from boot1 to boot2. And boot2 looks in the root directory for /boot/loader, and loads and passes control to that, if found. As far as your problem is concerned, I don't think there's a substitute for actually looking at the disk to find out what has ended up there. If you want to send me the output of dd if=/dev/rda0 size=512 count=80 | hexdump -C together with fdisk and disklabel output, I can probably tell you where things are going wrong. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 09:58:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26998 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:58:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26989 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27222; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA07062; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36B45051.8B2672DB@enc.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:58:32 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Charles Owens Subject: Re: no RELENG_3 in my CVSup'd repository? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Owens wrote: > Ahhh... I had wondered if this might be true. Someone had suggested > in another thread that the missing tag gets "added" once any module > is successfully checked out. So I'd been trying to check out the > module "modules" (as was suggested), which for some reason failed > (and still gives an error message). That's probably because "modules" has no tags. Only the files under "src" have the RELENG_3 tag. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 10:02:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27433 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:02:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m2-20-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27426 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:02:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id TAA05078; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:58:54 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901311758.TAA05078@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: disk problem at bootup... (me too!) In-Reply-To: <36B4865A.DDBBE975@softweyr.com> from Wes Peters at "Jan 31, 99 09:35:38 am" To: wes@softweyr.com (Wes Peters) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:58:52 +0200 (SAT) Cc: owensc@enc.edu, root@jules.res.cmu.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kingsled@enc.edu, rnordier@nordier.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wes Peters wrote: > Charles Owens wrote: > > > > When attempting the first boot I get a "missing operating system" > > error. I can get into the system by booting from the install floppy and > > typing "0:da(0,a)/boot/loader" at the first boot prompt. > > > > So I'm thinking that my messing around with dangerously dedicated mode > > must have screwed something up. Thus far I've done this to attempt to > > fix it: > > > > -- Booted the install disk. When to fdisk screen and did the normal > > thing I'd do during and install: Use all disk (_not_ dangerously > > dedicated), Set FBSD partition bootable. Then I hit 'W' to write it > > out. Didn't help. > > You've lost your "boot block", aka the master boot record. On most FreeBSD > systems, this is BootEasy, the one that is installed by default. > > You need to go far enough through the install to get to the point where > it asks you if you want to install the boot manager. Answer yes, go > on to the next screen, then reboot. Alternatively, you can boot from a > DOS floppy or Win95 "start disk" and run the booteasy install program > from the FreeBSD CD-ROM. I don't think this is going to help; and a boot manager is unneccesary where only one slice is defined (a standard MBR is already installed). -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 10:54:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04130 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:54:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.webnology.com (mercury.webnology.com [209.155.51.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04122; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:54:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jooji@webnology.com) Received: from localhost (jooji@localhost) by mercury.webnology.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA20192; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:54:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:54:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Jasper O'Malley" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/mail/Makefile doesn't make. In-Reply-To: <199901311515.HAA08935@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > the only thing broken is the ftp from gulf.net. > the rest works fine. use it hub all the time. > i'll remove the ftp (or fetch whichever we were using) > from the makefile. Any reason not to just put the built-in RBL support in our default sendmail.cf, and get rid of /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.additions altogether? Cheers, Mick The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webnology.com Systems Administrator ringring:asktheadmiral Webnology, LLC woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 11:30:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09295 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:30:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09275; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA99005; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:30:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Jasper O'Malley" cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: /etc/mail/Makefile doesn't make. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:54:18 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:30:37 -0500 Message-ID: <99001.917811037@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jasper O'Malley" wrote in message ID : > Any reason not to just put the built-in RBL support in our default > sendmail.cf, and get rid of /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.additions altogether? For legal reasons, the RBL has to remain the choice of the sysadmin of the site who does the deployment. I think there is an explanation somewhere on maps.vix.com about that. Something about liability :) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 12:08:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13867 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:08:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13862 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA011502205; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:16:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:16:45 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: "Jasper O'Malley" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/mail/Makefile doesn't make. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > Any reason not to just put the built-in RBL support in our default > sendmail.cf, and get rid of /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.additions altogether? Some of us don't like the thought of inherently blocking users without enabling that option. I know I don't. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 12:12:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14248 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:12:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14230; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:12:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 304C82EE1A; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:12:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:12:13 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole Harrington To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CVSup seems broken Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA14231 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did someone break CVSUP or is my machine wacky? Updating collection src-all/cvs Delete src/contrib/cvs/l Updater failed: /usr/src/contrib/cvs/lib/#cvs.cvsup-1186.1: Cannot create: Not a directory Nicole |\ __ /| (`\ | o_o |__ ) ) // \\ nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - - I'm not ADD - I'm just MultiThreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- SYSADMIN(1) Sysadmin is the keeper of all things computer, is generally harangued, must be supplied with caffine, chocolate, and sushi in order to function properly, cannot be exposed to direct sunlight, and must not be allowed to have a life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 13:20:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23538 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23530; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:20:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20663; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:20:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990131131642.009fb800@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:17:39 -0800 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , jkh@zippy.cdrom.com From: Chris Knight Subject: Re: /etc/mail/Makefile doesn't make. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901311515.HAA08935@hub.freebsd.org> References: <4662.917554348@zippy.cdrom.com> <4662.917554348@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:15 AM 1/31/99 -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: >> cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG >> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:12:28 -0800 >> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" >> >> > How bizarre, there were changes make to /etc/mail/Makefile just a couple >> > of months ago. That is what made me try this agian. When I cvsup'd one >> >> I didn't say that everyone was particularly aware of this; evidently >> not, in fact! :-) >> >> - Jordan >> > > > the only thing broken is the ftp from gulf.net. > the rest works fine. use it hub all the time. > i'll remove the ftp (or fetch whichever we were using) > from the makefile. So, where would we get a base blocking list from? Is it possible to replace the fetch to gulf.net with a mirror site? -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 15:05:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07056 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07033; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:05:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09232; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:05:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19990131181107.04928040@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:11:53 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: current.freebsd.org backup and then back down :-( Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Connected to usw2.freebsd.org. 220 usw2.freebsd.org FTP server (Version 6.00) ready. Name (current.freebsd.org:mdtancsa): ftp 331 Guest login ok, send your email address as password. Password: 550 Can't set guest privileges. ftp: Login failed. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 15:28:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10315 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:28:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.jps.net (smtp1.jps.net [209.63.224.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10310 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from onemo@jps.net) Received: from jps.net (209-63-247-64.smf.jps.net [209.63.247.64]) by smtp1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12174; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:28:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B4E648.D8ADE2DE@jps.net> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:24:57 -0800 From: ONE-MO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Dawson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch References: <36B3826B.D84339D1@jps.net> <36B443A6.84AF6D17@doc.ic.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Dawson wrote: > The patch may now be out of date wrt 3.0 in this regard. Try building > the kernel without applying (3) and see what happens. [I don't run 3.0 > systems myself, all my kit is using 2.2.x.] Thanks for getting back to me so soon. I tried a couple of things without success, so I decided to forward a full breakdown of the situation. First, a little hardware description: Compaq Prosignia 500 Smart-2E controller with 3 4Gb drives RAID5 one 2Gb drive on embedded NCR controller (to boot from). I'm running a completely ELF system, kernel & userland. Here's my kernel config: machine "i386" ident JUPITER maxusers 32 options "MAXDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" options "DFLDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" options "MAXMEM=(256*1024)" config kernel root on da0 cpu "I586_CPU" cpu "I686_CPU" options GPL_MATH_EMULATE options "COMPAT_43" options USER_LDT options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options "MD5" options PQ_HUGECACHE options PERFMON options UCONSOLE options USERCONFIG options VISUAL_USERCONFIG options INET pseudo-device ether pseudo-device loop pseudo-device bpfilter 4 pseudo-device disc pseudo-device tun 1 options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT options "ICMP_BANDLIM" options "VM86" options FFS options NFS options "CD9660" options MSDOSFS options PROCFS options FFS_ROOT options SOFTUPDATES options NSWAPDEV=20 options "NFS_MINATTRTIMO=3" options "NFS_MAXATTRTIMO=60" options "NFS_MINDIRATTRTIMO=30" options "NFS_MAXDIRATTRTIMO=60" options "NFS_GATHERDELAY=10" options "NFS_UIDHASHSIZ=29" options "NFS_WDELAYHASHSIZ=16" options "NFS_MUIDHASHSIZ=63" options "P1003_1B" options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING" options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" controller scbus0 device da0 device sa0 device cd0 device pass0 options "SA_SPACE_TIMEOUT=(60)" options "SA_REWIND_TIMEOUT=(2*60)" options "SA_ERASE_TIMEOUT=(4*60)" pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device gzip pseudo-device vn controller isa0 controller pnp0 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? port IO_KBD conflicts tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? tty pseudo-device splash options MAXCONS=12 options VESA device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX iosiz 0x0 flags 0x0 irq 13 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options "CMD640" options ATAPI options ATAPI_STATIC options IDE_DELAY=8000 controller eisa0 controller ida0 at isa? bio irq ? vector idaintr disk id0 at ida0 drive 0 disk id1 at ida0 drive 1 disk id2 at ida0 drive 2 disk id3 at ida0 drive 3 disk id4 at ida0 drive 4 disk id5 at ida0 drive 5 disk id6 at ida0 drive 6 device acd0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 controller pci0 controller ahc1 controller ncr0 device fxp0 device tl0 device xl0 options PCI_QUIET options COMPAT_LINUX The following is the relavent portion of the make results without Step 3: cc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/isa/ida.c ../../i386/isa/ida.c:430: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type ../../i386/isa/ida.c: In function `ida_pci_attach': ../../i386/isa/ida.c:573: `idaintr' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/isa/ida.c:573: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/isa/ida.c:573: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/isa/ida.c:541: warning: unused variable `i' ../../i386/isa/ida.c:538: warning: unused variable `io_port' ../../i386/isa/ida.c: In function `ida_eisa_probe': ../../i386/isa/ida.c:603: warning: unused variable `drive' ../../i386/isa/ida.c:601: warning: unused variable `qcbp' ../../i386/isa/ida.c: In function `idopen': ../../i386/isa/ida.c:908: warning: label `bad' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/ida.c: In function `idstrategy': ../../i386/isa/ida.c:981: warning: unused variable `part' ../../i386/isa/ida.c: In function `ida_queue_buf': ../../i386/isa/ida.c:1176: warning: unused variable `blkno' ../../i386/isa/ida.c: At top level: ../../i386/isa/ida.c:1387: warning: no previous prototype for `idaintr' ../../i386/isa/ida.c:1387: `idaintr' used prior to declaration ../../i386/isa/ida.c:405: warning: `ida_xsubmit' declared `static' but never defined ../../i386/isa/ida.c:413: warning: `id_bdevsw' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Stop. So, I obviously need the declaration of the idaintr variable. I received a suggestion from another user who stated replacing Step 3 as follows worked for him: /sys/i386/isa/isa_device.h [...] void isa_dma_release __P((int chan)); int isa_dmastatus __P((int chan)); int isa_dmastop __P((int chan)); void reconfig_isadev __P((struct isa_device *isdp, u_int *mp)); void idaintr (int cntlr); #endif /* KERNEL */ #endif /* !_I386_ISA_ISA_DEVICE_H_ */ This time I was able to compile and install the kernel, but I receive the following error upon boot: [...] Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: eisa0: Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: Probing for devices on the EISA bus Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: eisa0:1 unknown device [...] Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: wdc1 not found at 0x170 Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: ida: port address (0xffffffff) out of range Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: ida0 not found [...] So, it still doesn't work :-( If you have any other suggestions, the machine I'm using can be hacked all over the place if necessary. It's not really useful if I can't to the RAID anyway. Michael. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 17:14:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25399 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:14:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25381; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:14:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:14:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902010114.RAA25381@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com CC: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <4.1.19990131131642.009fb800@pop2.ghostwheel.com> (message from Chris Knight on Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:17:39 -0800) Subject: Re: /etc/mail/Makefile doesn't make. References: <4662.917554348@zippy.cdrom.com> <4662.917554348@zippy.cdrom.com> <4.1.19990131131642.009fb800@pop2.ghostwheel.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:17:39 -0800 > From: Chris Knight > > > > the only thing broken is the ftp from gulf.net. > > the rest works fine. use it hub all the time. > > i'll remove the ftp (or fetch whichever we were using) > > from the makefile. > > So, where would we get a base blocking list from? Is it possible to > replace the fetch to gulf.net with a mirror site? the only thing needed is a well-founded site to host it. well-founded means it needs to stick around for a while (months to years) and have appropriate connectivity. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 17:20:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26423 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.webnology.com (mercury.webnology.com [209.155.51.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26414 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:20:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jooji@webnology.com) Received: from localhost (jooji@localhost) by mercury.webnology.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id TAA26684; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:20:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:20:53 -0600 (CST) From: "Jasper O'Malley" To: Bill Fumerola cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/mail/Makefile doesn't make. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > > > Any reason not to just put the built-in RBL support in our default > > sendmail.cf, and get rid of /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.additions altogether? > > Some of us don't like the thought of inherently blocking users without > enabling that option. I know I don't. Fair enough, but I think we're reinventing the wheel with the sendmail.cf.additions stuff, especially now that the ftp.gulf.net list is no longer available. Perhaps we could just include a README and a sample sendmail.cf m4 with the anti-spam configuration? Also, in the README, we could explain the usage of /etc/mail/relay-domains file, and how to enable the sendmail access database. Cheers, Mick The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webnology.com Systems Administrator ringring:asktheadmiral Webnology, LLC woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 18:10:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02128 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02121 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:10:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (root@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id SAA11280 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:10:45 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id SAA15053 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:10:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:10:14 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Gzipped Aouts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does the kernel option for gzipped aout's apply to gzipped "elves"? More to the point, If I have no a.outs at all can I remove this option from my kernel config? Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 31 21:42:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24659 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:42:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24654 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:42:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02245; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:42:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA10275; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:42:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:42:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902010542.VAA10275@vashon.polstra.com> To: nicole@nmhtech.com Subject: Re: CVSup seems broken Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Nicole Harrington wrote: > > Did someone break CVSUP or is my machine wacky? Your machine is wacky. -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 00:20:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11348 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coiib.es ([195.76.52.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA11322; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:20:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from janet9981@yahoo.com) From: janet9981@yahoo.com Received: from mirentxu.coiib.es by coiib.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03948; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:14:59 -0100 Message-Id: <199902011114.KAA03948@coiib.es> To: adsrtc@mtyisrot.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 99 23:41:37 EST Subject: Maximize your website's traffic! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maximize your website's traffic. INCREASE YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK! If your Web site isn't getting the traffic it should, it's likely that it's not ranked well on the major Internet search engines. According to recent Internet E-commerce studies, over 90% of consumers find the Web sites they visit by using eight major search engines, which are Yahoo!, Excite, AltaVista, Infoseek, Lycos, Web Crawler, HotBot, and Northern Light. If your website isn't located in the top-30 listings of these engines, chances are your site will never be seen. The single most important thing you can do to increase your Web site's traffic is to increase your search engine ranking. ------------- "PUT YOUR NAME IN LIGHTS -- List your business with search engines to make sure potential customers can find it." -- BIZ Excite, PC Computing magazine, November 1998 ------------- THE BASICS: HOW SEARCH ENGINES RANK YOUR SITE When you submit your website to a search engine to be indexed in its database, it sends a "robot" to scan your page. 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Some highly-ranked websites still don't get much traffic--much depends on your particular industry and choice of keywords. However, high rankings, in most cases, do mean increased Web site traffic. And, we have never failed to increase a client's ranking. Ever. ------------ CONTACT A REPRESENTATIVE: Search Engine Success Group - Call us at: (310) 859-4659 ----------------------- If you've received this message in error--and are not interested in our services--please click reply or call, (888)-248-2236, and we'll remove you from our list. Maximize your website's traffic. INCREASE YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK! If your Web site isn't getting the traffic it should, it's likely that it's not ranked well on the major Internet search engines. According to recent Internet E-commerce studies, over 90% of consumers find the Web sites they visit by using eight major search engines, which are Yahoo!, Excite, AltaVista, Infoseek, Lycos, Web Crawler, HotBot, and Northern Light. If your website isn't located in the top-30 listings of these engines, chances are your site will never be seen. The single most important thing you can do to increase your Web site's traffic is to increase your search engine ranking. ------------- "PUT YOUR NAME IN LIGHTS -- List your business with search engines to make sure potential customers can find it." -- BIZ Excite, PC Computing magazine, November 1998 ------------- THE BASICS: HOW SEARCH ENGINES RANK YOUR SITE When you submit your website to a search engine to be indexed in its database, it sends a "robot" to scan your page. Using complex algorithms to rank your page for keyword relevance, the "robot" determines whether you'll be ranked number 1 or 1,000,000 when potential visitors conduct a search looking for sites like yours. Because the search engines are constantly changing their algorithms to provide users with the best possible search results, there's only one true solution to high search engine placement--us. In short, submission alone isn't enough. *Good search engine ranking* is critical to your site's success. ------------- HERE'S WHAT WE DO -- A UNIQUE, SUCCESSFUL APPROACH In order to counter the ever-changing search engine algorithms, we create an entire series of "entry pages" that are optimized for the search engines--one for every keyword (or keyword phrase) that you provide. Each entry page is optimized for a different set of algorithm variables. In other words, instead of having only *one* page struggling to rank well on all engines, we create separate, search engine-specific entry pages for each keyword. As a result, your pages rank well because they contain information relevant to search queries that are related to your industry. ------------- HOW ENTRY PAGES AFFECT YOUR WEB SITE'S CURRENT STRUCTURE Put simply, they don't. When creating entry pages we *do not* make any changes to the existing structure, content, or functionality of your current site. The entry pages act as a welcome screen for your Web site when people enter from your highly ranked link on the search engine. The pages will say a few introductory words about your site, which are keyword and/or keyword phrase rich, and then provide a link that asks the visitor to "Click Here To Enter," which moves them directly to your current homepage. ------------ HERE'S WHAT WE DON'T *EVER* DO TO HELP YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK We *will not* build pages for irrelevant--yet "popular"--keywords. Also, we will *never* "spamdex" pages. "Spamdexing" is "stuffing" a Web page full of words for the search engine's robots. You may have seen spamdexing, which is placing many words in the same text color as a background onto a Web page. Spamdexing will actually get your pages "kicked" from search engine indexes. What we *will* do is simply present very relevant keywords for your site to the search engines in the way that they "like" to see it. ------------- "It's simple: If they can't find you on the search engines, they can't buy from you." -- J. LeRoss, Internet Sales Consultant ------------ HOW WELL DOES THE SERVICE WORK? We'll send you a detailed report of your current search engine ranking on "The Big Six" engines before we begin. Then, once your new entry pages have been indexed, we'll send you a second report showing how they've ranked. Here's a sampling of some results we've acheived for previous clients. (These examples are for competitive keywords--not just obscure words on which no one is conducting searches.) <> 6 top-10 rankings on Infoseek for different relevant keywords <> 18 top-10 rankings across the major search engines <> 3 top-10 rankings on Alta Vista for one keyword <> 16 total *number one* rankings <> 40 top-30 rankings, spread across the different engines. <> 1 to 2 hits per week increased to 500 per day <> 45,000 hits per month grew to 108,000. ------------ HOW MUCH DOES YOUR SERVICE COST? Our basic services start at only $385. The basic package includes: <> Construction of optimized entry pages for up to 20 keywords -- This gives you good "coverage" in your industry <> Submission of the keyword-dense entry pages to the "Big Six" search engines When you contact us, ask about other services we provide that may be able to help your Internet initiatives succeed. We have special services that can be tailored for your specific Internet marketing needs. ------------ HOW DO I GET STARTED? <> Call us--we'll answer any questions you may have and provide a no-cost initial consultation. (888) 283-2050 <> Submit your keywords and/or keyword phrases (up to 20) to us ------------ COMMENTS FROM CLIENTS "Frankly, I'm impressed with the foregoing. So many solicitations from email sources turn out to be a phone line that hooks up to a voice mail system that is designed to give the impression of size, and people who never return phone calls/messages. . . So its a pleasant surprise to find that someone at the other end is really operating as a business!!!" --Alan B. "Incredible! Our site is now receiving more hits in a day than we used to get in an entire month. [My boss] is still eating his words." -- Bob W. "I knew the search engines were a fantastic marketing tool, but my company simply didn't have the time to devote to search engine placement. It has proven to be the best money we've ever spent on marketing." -- Shelley H. "I worked for weeks to get good search engine placement, but I could never crack the top 80 . . . my site was deserted. Within a month [after using your service], I'd had more hits than I'd had in the last year. I wouldn't believe it if it hadn't happened to me." -- Chris L. ------------ OUR JOB: INCREASE YOUR WEB SITE'S RANKING. We can't guarantee that better ranking will increase the number of visitors that "surf" to your Web site. Some highly-ranked websites still don't get much traffic--much depends on your particular industry and choice of keywords. However, high rankings, in most cases, do mean increased Web site traffic. And, we have never failed to increase a client's ranking. Ever. ------------ CONTACT A REPRESENTATIVE: Search Engine Success Group - Call us at: (888) 283-2050 ----------------------- If you've received this message in error--and are not interested in our services--please click reply or call, (888)-248-2236, and we'll remove you from our list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 05:13:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18710 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gate.trgz.lviv.ua (d14.lv.ukrtel.net [195.5.29.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18685 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pelex@trgz.lviv.ua) Received: from trgz.lviv.ua (pelex [10.3.1.79]) by gate.trgz.lviv.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09911 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:12:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from pelex@trgz.lviv.ua) Message-ID: <36B5A893.C0A893ED@trgz.lviv.ua> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:13:56 +0200 From: Yaroslav Pelekh Organization: LTG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -- Best wishes. ------------ Pelex E-mail: ypelex@yahoo.com or pelex@trgz.lviv.ua To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 05:31:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20617 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [207.95.42.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20608 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from itsdsv2.enc.edu (itsdsv2.enc.edu [10.1.1.9]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22633; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:26:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:26:53 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Owens To: Robert Nordier cc: Wes Peters , root@jules.res.cmu.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kingsled@enc.edu Subject: Re: disk problem at bootup... (me too!) In-Reply-To: <199901311758.TAA05078@ceia.nordier.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Robert Nordier wrote: > Wes Peters wrote: > > Charles Owens wrote: > > > > > > When attempting the first boot I get a "missing operating system" > > > error. I can get into the system by booting from the install floppy and > > > typing "0:da(0,a)/boot/loader" at the first boot prompt. > > > > > > So I'm thinking that my messing around with dangerously dedicated mode > > > must have screwed something up. Thus far I've done this to attempt to > > > fix it: > > > > > > -- Booted the install disk. When to fdisk screen and did the normal > > > thing I'd do during and install: Use all disk (_not_ dangerously > > > dedicated), Set FBSD partition bootable. Then I hit 'W' to write it > > > out. Didn't help. > > > > You've lost your "boot block", aka the master boot record. On most FreeBSD > > systems, this is BootEasy, the one that is installed by default. > > > > You need to go far enough through the install to get to the point where > > it asks you if you want to install the boot manager. Answer yes, go > > on to the next screen, then reboot. Alternatively, you can boot from a > > DOS floppy or Win95 "start disk" and run the booteasy install program > > from the FreeBSD CD-ROM. > > I don't think this is going to help; and a boot manager is unneccesary > where only one slice is defined (a standard MBR is already installed). You're right Robert, I actually tried this already... didn't help. --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 06:21:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25224 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:21:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.erols.com (destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25216 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:21:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) Received: from destiny.erols.com (someone@destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by destiny.erols.com (8.9.2/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA08734 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:21:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:21:02 -0500 (EST) From: John Dowdal To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: network slowdown with rc5des Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a dramatic network slowdown on 3.0-stable when usign 100BT cards and rc5des at the same time. The rc5des process causes the slowdown even if it is set to idprio 1. rc5des running, 25MB file ftp to/from windoze machine (server on BSD) Send from windoze to bsd: 3.0MB/s Send from BSD to windoze: 1.45MB/s rc5des NOT running Send from windoze to bsd: 6.0MB/s Send from BSD to windoze: 6.5MB/s Both machines have winbond 840F (wb0 driver) ethernet cards connected with a crossover cable operating in full duplex 100 mbit mode. I also tried a 'dd if=/dev/rwd0 of=/dev/null bs=32k count=10000' with and without rc5des running. In either case it got 12MBytes/sec, so rc5 isn't affecting disk trhoughput. Question: why does the system care if the internal idle process (resulting in fast network performance) or an external idle process (rc5des at idprio 1) (resulting in slow network performance) runs? Even win98 seems to handle this correctly; there was n o difference in network performance on win98 with or without the win32 vesion of rc5des running. I also tried increasing net.inet.tcp.sendspace and net.inet.tcp.recvspace to 32K and 64K. This improved the performance dramatically with rc5des running, but slightly slowed it down without rc5des running. Leaving these values increased isn't a good solution, because it can cause huge latency through my ppp connections. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 06:32:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26495 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:32:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from idea.co.uk (ultra2.idea.co.uk [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26487 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:32:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kiril@idea.co.uk) Received: from kiril.idea.co.uk (kiril [194.36.20.51]) by idea.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA19546 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:30:04 GMT Received: by kiril.idea.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BE4DEF.B0A6DA80@kiril.idea.co.uk>; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:32:26 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE4DEF.B0A6DA80@kiril.idea.co.uk> From: Kiril Mitev To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: soundcard woes... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:32:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First of all, I apologise if this is not technical enough for this list - let me know and I'll crawl off to the -questions list if necessary. Configuring a yamaha opl3 card, here is what I have in the kernel config file : Controller snd0 Device opl0 at isa? Port 0x388 #device mpu0 at isa? Port 0x30 irq 6 drq 0 this combo fails during kernel compile with (typos possible :) ): ============= loading kernel soundcard.o: undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_poll' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_read' referenced from text segment. ============= And another 6 or so in the same vein... Incidentally, if the mpu0 line is uncommented, config gives me a syntax error in that line... Pointers/help/suggestions/even flames welcome ;-( Kiril To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 06:41:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28117 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:41:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26924 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:36:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id QAA30728; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:35:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:35:06 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Step-by-step 2.2.8 -> 3.0-STABLE transition instructions Message-ID: <19990201163506.A83373@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Stable References: <19990127200951.A19404@ucb.crimea.ua> <80570.917461685@zippy.cdrom.com> <19990129192548.A23285@ucb.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i In-Reply-To: <19990129192548.A23285@ucb.crimea.ua>; from Ruslan Ermilov on Fri, Jan 29, 1999 at 07:25:48PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Here I would like to describe the step-by-step 2.2.8 to 3.0-STABLE transition process I did last Saturday. 1. Backup your system!!! Use whatever backup method you want. As for me, I just plugged a cheap (???) 3Gb IDE disk in and copied the contents of all my partitions onto it. Also, I've made it bootable. You may find the following tutorial helpful at this step: http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/diskformat.html 2. Fetch the sources for 3.0-STABLE and put them into /usr/src. If you have a local CVS repository, just upgrade the sources from it: # cd /usr/src # cvs -q update -P -d -rRELENG_3 3. Recompile the sources. # cd /usr/src # make aout-to-elf-build This will: a) build an aout world in the /usr/obj/aout directory. b) build an ELF world in the /usr/obj/elf, using just built aout tools from the step a). During step b) you may notice the following messages: `ELF interpreter /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' You can safely ignore them. Step 3 WILL NOT touch your system in any way. 4. Reboot into single-user mode. 5. Upgrade your system. # cd /usr/src # make aout-to-elf-install This will: a) ask you: Which config file do you wish to use? [GENERIC] _ Just press , and it will build GENERIC kernel later, which is sufficient in most cases. b) ask you: What is your boot device (e.g. wd0 or sd0)? [sd0] _ If your boot drive is SCSI disk, say, sd0, answer sd0, don't tell it da0 now!!! c) move aout libraries into aout subdir of each library directory. For example, all a.out libs from /usr/lib will be in /usr/lib/aout. At this step the upgrade may fail with the message: `ldconfig: /usr/local/lib/aout: No such file or directory' If this happens for you, just do: # mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/aout Then restart install process: # cd /usr/src # make aout-to-elf-install WARNING!!! Don't interrupt the upgrade process after this step, or you'll leave your system in unusable state. d) install aout world on your system e) install ELF world on your system f) install new boot blocks on your boot drive g) build and install ELF kernel you've choosen in step a), and install it on your boot drive h) set the default object format to ELF i) ask you to reboot the system 6. Boot into single-user mode. 7. Update your /etc and /dev. This is something you have to do by hand, eyeball, and judicious use of the diff command. You may find the following tutorial very helpful at this step: http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html Read sections `Update /etc' and `Update /dev' of this document. Also, pay a special attention to the contents of your /etc/group and /etc/master.passwd. FreeBSD-3.0 introduces 3 new system uids - `kmem', `tty' and `bind', and new group `bind'. These can be used to run certain services in a sandbox mode. Consult security(7) manpage later. After you've successfully updated your /dev, you may want to rename sd0 to da0 in your /etc/fstab. Don't forget to do: # cd /dev # sh MAKEDEV da0s1a 8. Your system is now fully updated to run elf. 9. Reboot into muti-user mode. 10. [Optional] Recompile your ports in ELF. 11. [Optional] Recompile your own programs. 12. Delete /usr/obj P.S. Use at your own risk!!! This procedure is based only on my own experience of upgrading two (2.2.8-RELEASE and 2.2.8-STABLE) machines to 3.0-STABLE. Regards, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 06:43:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29042 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:43:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gfoster.intr.net (gfoster.intr.net [207.32.93.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29018 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gfoster@gfoster.intr.net) Received: (from gfoster@localhost) by gfoster.intr.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA78657; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:43:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gfoster) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:43:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902011443.JAA78657@gfoster.intr.net> From: Glen Foster To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.0-STABLE breakage? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, Am I the only one for whom top and ps are broken and w/uptime and who prints weird messages about /dev//whatever being missing? tbd: {303} top kvm_open: proc size mismatch (46992 total, 680 chunks) top: Out of memory. tbd: {304} w w: /dev//è´6ttyp4: No such file or directory w: /dev//5: No such file or directory 9:23AM up 20:13, 2 users, load averages: 1.63, 1.49, 1.42 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT w: proc size mismatch (46992 total, 680 chunks): No such file or directory I'm guessing a problem with procfs. Both world and the running kernel were built from sources updated Jan 28 and should not be out of sync. I rebuilt top and w/uptime just in case and the same breakage persists. PROCFS is in the kernel, loading the KLD makes no difference. Where should I look to begin having an idea of how to fix this? Is this a known problem? TIA, Glen Foster To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 06:45:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29665 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:45:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29638 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:45:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id IAA24620; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:44:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id IAA24616; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:44:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <010d01be4df1$70a018f0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Kiril Mitev" , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: soundcard woes... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:44:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Use the new code. I believe it is device pnp0 device pcm0 and some options out of lint. Set your IRQ correctly (I usually use 5). See the LINT file. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com -----Original Message----- From: Kiril Mitev To: 'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org' Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:33 AM Subject: soundcard woes... >First of all, I apologise if this is not technical enough for this list - let me know >and I'll crawl off to the -questions list if necessary. > >Configuring a yamaha opl3 card, here is what I have in the kernel config file : > >Controller snd0 >Device opl0 at isa? Port 0x388 >#device mpu0 at isa? Port 0x30 irq 6 drq 0 > >this combo fails during kernel compile with (typos possible :) ): >============= >loading kernel >soundcard.o: undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_poll' referenced from text segment >sound_switch.o: undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_read' referenced from text segment. >============= > >And another 6 or so in the same vein... > >Incidentally, if the mpu0 line is uncommented, config gives me a syntax error in that line... > >Pointers/help/suggestions/even flames welcome ;-( > > > >Kiril > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 06:50:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA00521 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA00491 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:50:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA20795; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:28:52 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199902011228.NAA20795@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: soundcard woes... To: kiril@idea.co.uk (Kiril Mitev) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:28:51 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <01BE4DEF.B0A6DA80@kiril.idea.co.uk> from "Kiril Mitev" at Feb 1, 99 02:32:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > and I'll crawl off to the -questions list if necessary. > > Configuring a yamaha opl3 card, here is what I have in the kernel config file : > > Controller snd0 > Device opl0 at isa? Port 0x388 > #device mpu0 at isa? Port 0x30 irq 6 drq 0 use "controller pnp0" and "device pcm0 ..." entries -- read about them in the manpages for pcm(4) and pnp(4), /sys/i386/isa/snd/README, /sys/i386/isa/snd/CARDS, and /sys/i386/conf/LINT that's all i can say. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 06:52:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA00730 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:52:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA00717 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:52:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA094479660; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:01:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:01:00 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: "Jasper O'Malley" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/mail/Makefile doesn't make. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > Fair enough, but I think we're reinventing the wheel with the > sendmail.cf.additions stuff, especially now that the ftp.gulf.net list is > no longer available. Perhaps we could just include a README and a sample > sendmail.cf m4 with the anti-spam configuration? Also, in the README, > we could explain the usage of /etc/mail/relay-domains file, and how to > enable the sendmail access database. That's an idea. Patches happily accepted. :> - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 07:03:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02166 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:03:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02159 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:03:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA51273; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 06:45:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Ruslan Ermilov cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Step-by-step 2.2.8 -> 3.0-STABLE transition instructions In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:35:06 +0200." <19990201163506.A83373@ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 06:45:11 -0800 Message-ID: <51270.917880311@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > c) move aout libraries into aout subdir of each library directory. > For example, all a.out libs from /usr/lib will be in /usr/lib/aout. > > At this step the upgrade may fail with the message: > > `ldconfig: /usr/local/lib/aout: No such file or directory' Shouldn't now - I just imported your fix for this this morning, thanks. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 07:06:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02607 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:06:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02554 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:05:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id JAA24753; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:05:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id JAA24749; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:05:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <011a01be4df4$5b92f830$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Glen Foster" , Subject: Re: 3.0-STABLE breakage? Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:05:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, I have seen this problem too. Saturday all was working again after a new world was built. However, networking performance has been very poor since then. What is one too do? -----Original Message----- From: Glen Foster To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:58 AM Subject: 3.0-STABLE breakage? >Folks, > >Am I the only one for whom top and ps are broken and w/uptime and who >prints weird messages about /dev//whatever being missing? > >tbd: {303} top >kvm_open: proc size mismatch (46992 total, 680 chunks) >top: Out of memory. >tbd: {304} w >w: /dev//è´6ttyp4: No such file or directory >w: /dev//5: No such file or directory > 9:23AM up 20:13, 2 users, load averages: 1.63, 1.49, 1.42 >USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT >w: proc size mismatch (46992 total, 680 chunks): No such file or directory > >I'm guessing a problem with procfs. Both world and the running kernel >were built from sources updated Jan 28 and should not be out of sync. >I rebuilt top and w/uptime just in case and the same breakage >persists. PROCFS is in the kernel, loading the KLD makes no >difference. > >Where should I look to begin having an idea of how to fix this? Is >this a known problem? > >TIA, >Glen Foster > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 07:31:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06140 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:31:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.erols.com (destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06134 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:31:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) Received: from destiny.erols.com (someone@destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by destiny.erols.com (8.9.2/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA09192; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:31:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:31:29 -0500 (EST) From: John Dowdal To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: Glen Foster , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-STABLE breakage? In-Reply-To: <011a01be4df4$5b92f830$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAA06136 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The errors with top/w/ps as described seem to occur when the running kernel and the utilities are compiled from a different set of sources. The problem seems to go away if you do a 'make world' then reboot with a kernel compiled after the make world completed (such that the new kernel was built using the include files installed by the make world). Can you please elaborate on "networking performance has been very poor"? I just bought a pair of fast ethernet cards and only get regular ethernet-like performance if rc5des is running, but get fast ethernet performance if i stop rc5des. (1.5MB send, 3.0MB receive with rc5des; 6MB send/receive without it). My cvsup was also done on saturday.... John On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > No, I have seen this problem too. Saturday all was working again after a > new world was built. However, networking performance has been very poor > since then. > > What is one too do? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glen Foster > To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 8:58 AM > Subject: 3.0-STABLE breakage? > > > >Folks, > > > >Am I the only one for whom top and ps are broken and w/uptime and who > >prints weird messages about /dev//whatever being missing? > > > >tbd: {303} top > >kvm_open: proc size mismatch (46992 total, 680 chunks) > >top: Out of memory. > >tbd: {304} w > >w: /dev//è´6ttyp4: No such file or directory > >w: /dev//5: No such file or directory > > 9:23AM up 20:13, 2 users, load averages: 1.63, 1.49, 1.42 > >USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > >w: proc size mismatch (46992 total, 680 chunks): No such file or directory > > > >I'm guessing a problem with procfs. Both world and the running kernel > >were built from sources updated Jan 28 and should not be out of sync. > >I rebuilt top and w/uptime just in case and the same breakage > >persists. PROCFS is in the kernel, loading the KLD makes no > >difference. > > > >Where should I look to begin having an idea of how to fix this? Is > >this a known problem? > > > >TIA, > >Glen Foster > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 07:58:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08424 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:58:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com ([206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08417 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:58:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31703; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:44:45 -0500 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031692; Mon, 1 Feb 99 10:43:49 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29254; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) id KAA59443; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:43:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:43:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902011543.KAA59443@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: ONE-MO Cc: Mark Dawson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch In-Reply-To: <36B4E648.D8ADE2DE@jps.net> References: <36B3826B.D84339D1@jps.net> <36B443A6.84AF6D17@doc.ic.ac.uk> <36B4E648.D8ADE2DE@jps.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Michael" == ONE-MO writes: Michael> So, I obviously need the declaration of the idaintr Michael> variable. I received a suggestion from another user who Michael> stated replacing Step 3 as follows worked for him: Michael> /sys/i386/isa/isa_device.h Michael> [...] Michael> void isa_dma_release __P((int chan)); Michael> int isa_dmastatus __P((int chan)); Michael> int isa_dmastop __P((int chan)); Michael> void reconfig_isadev __P((struct isa_device *isdp, u_int *mp)); Michael> void idaintr (int cntlr); [...] Michael> This time I was able to compile and install the kernel, but Michael> I receive the following error upon boot: Michael> Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: ida: port address Michael> (0xffffffff) out of range Michael> Jan 31 14:44:13 jupiter /kernel: ida0 not found Michael> [...] Oops, I forgot to add another suggestion when I first mailed you. The port address is not detected for some reason. I booted from one of the 2.2.x boot floppies that have ida in there (grab one from Mark's site), wrote down the port that the Compaq controller uses, and then do one of the following: 1. boot with -c and set the port address for ida in the user config screen. (This probably could be automated thru the loader.rc file) 2. Hack the ida.c file to always use that port (This is what I did. My EISA controller uses port 0x6000 so ida.c has been hacked to do this. I'm not proud of it, but it works, and has been working ever since Mark sent the announcement that he had a 3.0 version of the ida driver). Michael> Michael. Viren -- Viren R. Shah "You are about as sharp as a sack of wet mice" -- Foghorn Leghorn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 08:08:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09079 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:08:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09071 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:08:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (tiburon [158.227.6.111]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01896 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:08:07 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36B5D166.9CE4A52B@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:08:06 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del Pais Vasco - Dept. de Electricidad y Electronica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mount: .: Permission denied ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am looking for an explanation to this phenomenom. If, as root, I have no permission to read or write my working directory (because it is being NFS-mounted), and I try to run "mount", I get a "mount: .: Permission denied" message. Why? A syscall trace is not very helpful: # truss mount -t null /usr/ports /mnt syscall readlink("/etc/malloc.conf",0xefbfdac8,63) errno 2 'No such file or directory' syscall mmap(0x0,4096,0x3,0x1002,-1,0x0) returns 671555584 (0x28072000) syscall break(0x807e000) returns 0 (0x0) syscall break(0x807f000) returns 0 (0x0) syscall open(".",0,00) errno 13 'Permission denied' mount: syscall write(2,0xefbfc90c,7) returns 7 (0x7) .syscall write(2,0xefbfc920,1) returns 1 (0x1) : syscall write(2,0xefbfc904,2) returns 2 (0x2) Permission denied syscall write(2,0xefbfc908,18) returns 18 (0x12) syscall exit(0x1) process exit, rval = 256 At the very beginning, mount tries to open() the working directory. The code that makes this syscall does not belong to main(). I think that there is an explanation to this behaviour... -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 08:51:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14336 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:51:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from idea.co.uk (ultra2.idea.co.uk [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14331 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:51:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kiril@idea.co.uk) Received: from kiril.idea.co.uk (kiril [194.36.20.51]) by idea.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA23305 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:49:26 GMT Received: by kiril.idea.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BE4E03.288D2640@kiril.idea.co.uk>; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:51:48 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE4E03.288D2640@kiril.idea.co.uk> From: Kiril Mitev To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: more soundcard woes ... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:51:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the help so far... (trying to get a yamaha opl3-sa2 sound card working on 3.0) Pnp/pcm seems to work (card detected & configured), but after that: If I use (cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV snd1 ), there is a kernel msg 'device not configured', if I use MAKEDEV snd0 , first the box hangs, then the kernel panics... Kerlen config, dmesg output, error messages available on request... :( :( :( Kiril (will try another card in the meantime) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 08:59:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15123 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:59:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from blacksun.student.simons-rock.edu ([207.51.114.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15118 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:59:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mib@io.com) Received: from io.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blacksun.student.simons-rock.edu (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA48283 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:58:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mib@io.com) Message-ID: <36B5DD52.CD6FC124@io.com> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:58:58 -0500 From: mib Reply-To: mib@io.com Organization: Illuminati Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: USB in 3.0-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So now we've got USB kernel options and I know I have a USB port on this box here, but I'm not quite sure what I should be uncommenting in my config file. Any suggestions? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 09:11:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16519 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:11:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16513 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:11:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA92928 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:12:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:12:59 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network slowdown with rc5des Message-ID: <19990201111258.A89636@rain.futuresouth.com> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from John Dowdal on Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:21:02AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (John Dowdal, jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) once wrote... > There is a dramatic network slowdown on 3.0-stable when usign 100BT > cards and rc5des at the same time. The rc5des process causes the > slowdown even if it is set to idprio 1. I think you have the priority backwards (or didn't type the 3 hard enough). The manpage for idprio states: Priority is an integer between 0 and RTP_PRIO_MAX (usually 31). 0 is the highest priority Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 10:07:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21795 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:07:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21778 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA10738; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:57:27 -0500 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21084; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:58:40 GMT Message-Id: <199902011758.RAA21084@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Charles Owens cc: John Baldwin , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: fixed: no RELENG_3 in my CVSup'd repository? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:05:27 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:58:40 +0000 From: Jerry Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You needed to add the line: ' RELENG_3 y' to $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/val-tags You probably synchronized your repository just before freefall.freebsd.org migrated to RELENG_3? Anyway, this got me going... Cheers, Jerry Hicks jerry.hicks@glenayre.com > On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Charles Owens wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > > > > On 29-Jan-99 Charles Owens wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > distrib > > > > distrib release=self > > > > src-all > > > > cvs-crypto > > > > ports-all > > > > doc-all > > > > > > > > > > > > This looks okay to me, but I'm not really up to snuff on this stuff. > > > > > > > > Is there anything that jumps out here as a reason why my CVS repository > > > > doesn't seem to know about the RELENG_3 tag? ...or other ideas about what > > > > I'm doing wrong? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > --- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu > > > > http://www.enc.edu/~owensc > > > > > > I'm not sure when it changed, but I had to change to using the cvs-all distro > > > instead of src-all, ports-all, and doc-all recently. > > > > > > Thanks for the idea! I've made the change and done another cvsup but > > still nothing is extracted when I checkout with -rRELENG_3. > > Okay... never mind. It seems to be working now. Various examples that I > saw suggested that I check out the modules "modules" as a test, so since > that had been failing I was assuming general failure. For some > reason doing so still gives me an error, but I can now checkout out > everything else. > > So... thanks very much... it looks like having cvs-all in my supfile was > the solution!! > > > > > Any other thoughts? I'm wondering if I should try deleting my entire > > repository and pulling it down fresh. I hate fixing things this way > > though and then always wondering what was wrong (especially if I do all > > that and its still broken! ;-). > > > > > > BTW, my supfile now looks like this: > > > > *default host=cvsup3.FreeBSD.org > > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > > *default prefix=/usr/cvs/FreeBSD > > *default release=cvs > > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > > > cvs-all > > cvs-crypto > > distrib release=self > > > > > > Thanks, > > --- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu > > http://www.enc.edu/~owensc > > Network & Systems Administrator > > Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's > > Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's > > too dark to read." - Groucho Marx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > --- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu > http://www.enc.edu/~owensc > Network & Systems Administrator > Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's > Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's > too dark to read." - Groucho Marx > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 10:17:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22992 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skraldespand.demos.su (skraldespand.demos.su [194.87.5.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22986 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:17:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mishania@skraldespand.demos.su) Received: (from mishania@localhost) by skraldespand.demos.su (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA56433; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:16:26 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from mishania) Message-ID: <19990201211625.03767@demos.su> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:16:25 +0300 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Step-by-step 2.2.8 -> 3.0-STABLE transition instructions References: <19990127200951.A19404@ucb.crimea.ua> <80570.917461685@zippy.cdrom.com> <19990129192548.A23285@ucb.crimea.ua> <19990201163506.A83373@ucb.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <19990201163506.A83373@ucb.crimea.ua>; from Ruslan Ermilov on Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 04:35:06PM +0200 X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. X-Useless-Header: Look ma! It's a # sign! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 04:35:06PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: # 7. Update your /etc and /dev. # # This is something you have to do by hand, eyeball, and judicious use # of the diff command. For this you may as well find the port sysutils/mergemaster, but don't forget to use -v when you use it first time and read man sdiff to fully understand the way how it works. # Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the -- -mishania To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 10:22:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23751 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:22:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23744 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:22:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA10849; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:12:33 -0500 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21123; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:13:46 GMT Message-Id: <199902011813.SAA21123@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Glen Foster cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-STABLE breakage? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:43:33 EST." <199902011443.JAA78657@gfoster.intr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:13:46 +0000 From: Jerry Hicks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id KAA23745 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Folks, > > Am I the only one for whom top and ps are broken and w/uptime and who > prints weird messages about /dev//whatever being missing? > > tbd: {303} top > kvm_open: proc size mismatch (46992 total, 680 chunks) > top: Out of memory. > tbd: {304} w > w: /dev//è´6ttyp4: No such file or directory > w: /dev//5: No such file or directory > 9:23AM up 20:13, 2 users, load averages: 1.63, 1.49, 1.42 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > w: proc size mismatch (46992 total, 680 chunks): No such file or directory > > I'm guessing a problem with procfs. Both world and the running kernel > were built from sources updated Jan 28 and should not be out of sync. > I rebuilt top and w/uptime just in case and the same breakage > persists. PROCFS is in the kernel, loading the KLD makes no > difference. > > Where should I look to begin having an idea of how to fix this? Is > this a known problem? Hi Glen, I had the same problem after a make {install,build}world here yesterday. Mine was performed from ground zero, having a clear /usr/obj and checking out a fresh /usr/src after deleting the old one. I am certain that I didn't have any cruft left over anywhere. I cvsupped again last night, blasted everything from /usr/{src,obj}, checked out new sources from my local repo. Then ran 'make includes' before rebuilding and reinstalling everything. Problem disappeared... Cheers, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net > TIA, > Glen Foster > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 10:28:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24569 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:28:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.erols.com (destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24521 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:28:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) Received: from destiny.erols.com (someone@destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by destiny.erols.com (8.9.2/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA16543; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:27:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:27:45 -0500 (EST) From: John Dowdal To: Stormy Henderson cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network slowdown with rc5des In-Reply-To: <19990201111258.A89636@rain.futuresouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Stormy Henderson wrote: > A happy camper (John Dowdal, jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) once wrote... > > There is a dramatic network slowdown on 3.0-stable when usign 100BT > > cards and rc5des at the same time. The rc5des process causes the > > slowdown even if it is set to idprio 1. > > I think you have the priority backwards (or didn't type the 3 hard > enough). The manpage for idprio states: > > Priority is an integer between 0 and RTP_PRIO_MAX (usually 31). 0 is > the highest priority > > Be happy... I did idprio 1 -PID, where PID is the PID of the rc5des job. IT worked, because the rc5des process shows up with a nice value of 22. Also from the idprio man page: A process with an idle priority will run only when no other process is runnable and then only if its idle priority is equal or greater than all other runnable idle priority processes. This should imply that it doesn't matter whether I use 1 or 31 for priority, because I do not have any other processes with idle priority. Based on the behavior (and not te sources), it appears that the ethernet-card-is-ready interrupt is placed into a queue to be scheduled later, instead of immediately preempting the idprio processes. IT also appears that the interrupt will preempt the kernel idle loop causing better performance if I kill -STOP the rc5des process. The big question is why the system behaves differently when its executing a idprio job and its internal idle loop. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 10:31:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25123 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:31:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25118; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:31:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id KAA07335; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:30:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:30:57 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199902011830.KAA07335@apollo.backplane.com> To: Bjoern Fischer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nuts'n'bolts in vfs_bio References: <19990129094616.A555@frolic.no-support.loc> <199901290923.BAA75985@apollo.backplane.com> <19990129211554.A349@broccoli.no-support.loc> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Hello Matthew, : :thank you for reviewing vfs_bio.c. Your patch seems to :solve the problem with NFS writes remaining uncommitted. :At the time I can't see any NFS related data corruption. : :But when shutting down the server it still panics complaining :about dirty bufs. (happens in 9 out of 10 times). : : Bjoern I haven't been able to reproduce this one yet. I can see how there might be dirty buffers on the client, but there shouldn't be dirty buffers on the server. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 10:55:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28230 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28205; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA13162; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:54:47 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:54:47 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Matthew Dillon cc: Bjoern Fischer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nuts'n'bolts in vfs_bio In-Reply-To: <199902011830.KAA07335@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've seen this for a non-NFS case. On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :Hello Matthew, > : > :thank you for reviewing vfs_bio.c. Your patch seems to > :solve the problem with NFS writes remaining uncommitted. > :At the time I can't see any NFS related data corruption. > : > :But when shutting down the server it still panics complaining > :about dirty bufs. (happens in 9 out of 10 times). > : > : Bjoern > > I haven't been able to reproduce this one yet. I can see how there > might be dirty buffers on the client, but there shouldn't be dirty buffers > on the server. > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 11:03:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29690 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [207.95.42.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29683 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:03:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from itsdsv2.enc.edu (itsdsv2.enc.edu [10.1.1.9]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00790; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:01:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:01:14 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Owens To: Robert Nordier cc: root@jules.res.cmu.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kingsled@enc.edu Subject: Re: disk problem at bootup... (me too!) In-Reply-To: <199901311749.TAA04694@ceia.nordier.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Robert Nordier wrote: > Charles Owens wrote: > > > Greg, > > > > I believe I'm having the same problem that you are. I had my system > > running 2.2.7 just fine. I did a clean reinstall of 3.0-RELEASE: > > during the "fdisk" phase I said to my buddy, "I'm pretty sure that it > > will _not_ work to make a bootable drive dangerously dedicated." Rather > > than just go with what I has worked for years I decided to test my > > assertion by attempting to dangerously dedicate the disk (duh :-). As > > I'd expected I got an error during the commit phase. So I went back to > > the fdisk screen, redid things normally, and completed the install. > > You can boot from an unsliced ("dangerously dedicated") disk; but > it's probably best to slice your disks unless you've got really good > reasons not to. Just for the sake of arguement, why is dangerously dedicated so "dangerous?" What does either approach buy you? (Other than the normal mode's provision for multi-OS configurations.) It seemed that the install disk tools got confused with my attempt to do an bootable-disk install on a dangerously dedicated disk (though maybe it was a fluke). Sysinstall has no problem, though, with just fdisk'ing and disklabel'ing non-bootable disks in dangerously dedicated mode (I've done that many times). > In particular, unless you're starting with a completely blank disk > (where sysinstall detects no slices and no partitions whatever), you > don't want to go changing between sliced and unsliced. (However, a > blank disk may be what you meant by a "clean reinstall".) No, it had 2.2.6 (or maybe 2.2.7) on it before I began. I didn't do an upgrade install, though. I re-fdisk'ed and re-disklablel'ed it and installed 3.0-RELEASE from scratch. > > > > When attempting the first boot I get a "missing operating system" > > error. I can get into the system by booting from the install floppy and > > typing "0:da(0,a)/boot/loader" at the first boot prompt. > > A "Missing operating system" error generally means that the OS- > specific bootstrap can't be found by the mbr code. > > Anyway, the error at least indicates you have working mbr code > installed (see below). > > > > > So I'm thinking that my messing around with dangerously dedicated mode > > must have screwed something up. Thus far I've done this to attempt to > > fix it: > > > > -- Booted the install disk. When to fdisk screen and did the normal > > thing I'd do during and install: Use all disk (_not_ dangerously > > dedicated), Set FBSD partition bootable. Then I hit 'W' to write it > > out. Didn't help. > > > > -- From the booted system (getting in via the on-floppy boot sector) I > > typed both: > > disklabel -B da0s1 > > and disklabel -B da0 > > I'm not quite sure if this was right, but it helped me as much as it > > helped you. > > Both of those were reasonable things to try. > > > In digging through the mail archives I've found some folks that seem to > > have had this problem in the past. Several people suggested that the > > installing DOS MBR via the DOS "fdisk /mbr" command would fix things. > > Isn't this what the above disklabel commands are supposed to do? What > > _is_ the correct way to do this from FreeBSD? Not that I'm _entirely_ > > opposed to doing it with the DOS utility. ;-) (I'm going to give this > > a try Monday.) > > An "fdisk /mbr" will rewrite the mbr code (rather than data). The > easiest way to do the same thing from FreeBSD is to use the recent > fdisk -b option, but this is available only in -current. You can > do the same thing using sysinstall, by instructing it to use a > "Standard MBR", but the process is more involved and error-prone. > > I think the fdisk -b option should probably be back-ported to -stable. Sounds like a fine idea! > However, an "fdisk /mbr" or equivalent is unlikely to help you at > this stage (see above). > > > > > Someone else pointed out that some motherboards have a BIOS setting by > > which the motherboard will prevent the writing of the boot sector... > > which can mess up FreeBSD install. Good point... I don't think that's > > my problem here though. > > Yes, apparently some BIOSes do this. Unless one's using Microsoft > OSes exclusively, though, this is probably more trouble than it's > worth. > > > > > I must admit I'm a bit unclear on how this is all arranged. Are there > > multiple "boot sectors" that get processed during boot up? One "MBR" > > for the whole disk and then another boot record that lives on each > > bootable slice? > > The mbr will load sector 0 of the slice. If this has the correct > signature (the last two bytes are 0x55, 0xaa), control will be > passed to it. What happens after that is OS-specific (and maybe > bootstrap-specific). The usual FreeBSD behavior is to load another > 14 or 15 consecutive sectors following sector 0 of the slice. > Together, these 15 or 16 sectors comprise boot1, the disk label, > and boot2. Control is passed (blindly) from boot1 to boot2. And > boot2 looks in the root directory for /boot/loader, and loads and > passes control to that, if found. > > As far as your problem is concerned, I don't think there's a > substitute for actually looking at the disk to find out what has > ended up there. > > If you want to send me the output of > > dd if=/dev/rda0 size=512 count=80 | hexdump -C > > together with fdisk and disklabel output, I can probably tell you > where things are going wrong. Thanks! I'll send this in another message in a minute or two. --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 11:37:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05028 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05021 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:37:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phate1@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA05392 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:37:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from unknown(209.67.1.10) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005286; Mon Feb 1 13:36:54 1999 Message-ID: <36B60321.AA21E91@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:40:17 -0500 From: Mike Organization: Integration Soft. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't set maxusers to 512. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, FreeBSD 3.0 stable Pentium 400 Xeon x2 (SMP) 512MB Ram Recently moved from 3.0R to 3.0S, had trouble at first, but finally got it working. The problem is, I can't set maxusers to 512, this is going to be a very a heavy serving box, and I would need the extra open files, file descriptors, etc.. The problem is, after the box boots up, when i login via the console (and httpd, ftp starts, etc) kernel panics: panic: pmap_new_proc: u_map allocation failed I can set it to 256, 384 without any problems I remember I couldnt set this to 512 as well on my earlier box which had only 384MB Ram, (kmem_alloc() panicked right after detecting the memory) This panic is after the boot process is finished.. Can someone elucidate me if me not be able to set maxusers to 512 is a memory issue, or do I have add another option to kernel config?? Thanks in advance! Yev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 12:05:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09233 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:05:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09225 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:05:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00425; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902012000.MAA00425@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Charles Owens cc: Robert Nordier , root@jules.res.cmu.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kingsled@enc.edu Subject: Re: disk problem at bootup... (me too!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:01:14 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:00:14 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > You can boot from an unsliced ("dangerously dedicated") disk; but > > it's probably best to slice your disks unless you've got really good > > reasons not to. > > Just for the sake of arguement, why is dangerously dedicated so > "dangerous?" Please read any of my numerous posts on the topic. Try searching the -current and -stable archives for "stupidly dedicated". -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 12:30:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11937 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:30:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11864 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:30:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA15388 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:29:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by mail.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA07036 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:29:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16430 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:29:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:29:54 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: John Dowdal Cc: Stormy Henderson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network slowdown with rc5des Message-ID: <19990201212954.A17716@internal> References: <19990201111258.A89636@rain.futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from John Dowdal on Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 01:27:45PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 01-Feb-1999 at 13:27:45 -0500, John Dowdal wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Stormy Henderson wrote: > > > A happy camper (John Dowdal, jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) once wrote... > > > There is a dramatic network slowdown on 3.0-stable when usign 100BT > > > cards and rc5des at the same time. The rc5des process causes the > > > slowdown even if it is set to idprio 1. > > > > I think you have the priority backwards (or didn't type the 3 hard > > enough). The manpage for idprio states: > > > > Priority is an integer between 0 and RTP_PRIO_MAX (usually 31). 0 is > > the highest priority > > > > Be happy... > > I did idprio 1 -PID, where PID is the PID of the rc5des job. IT worked, > because the rc5des process shows up with a nice value of 22. > > Also from the idprio man page: > > A process with an idle priority will run only when no other process is > runnable and then only if its idle priority is equal or greater than all > other runnable idle priority processes. > > This should imply that it doesn't matter whether I use 1 or 31 for > priority, because I do not have any other processes with idle priority. > > Based on the behavior (and not te sources), it appears that the > ethernet-card-is-ready interrupt is placed into a queue to be scheduled > later, instead of immediately preempting the idprio processes. IT also > appears that the interrupt will preempt the kernel idle loop causing > better performance if I kill -STOP the rc5des process. The big question > is why the system behaves differently when its executing a idprio job and > its internal idle loop. Interesting, yesterday I sent a message covering the same topic to -questions. I attach it below. I replaced rc5des (which was here also the initial reason to investigate a little) with a little shell script. It does mainly the same: Stressing the cpu. I have observed this behavior for a long time now; I am still runinng 2.2.8-STABLE... -Andre ---------------------- snip --------------------------------------- How idle is idletime scheduling priority really ? I wonder what effect has idle priority on system activities, I fear not much. Let's assume the following scenario: Two hosts (2.2.8-STABLE) connected via 100MBit with a 35MB file for testing via ftp. Small test shell script: #!/bin/sh while true; do true done 1. Both hosts idle: Speed 10.17 MB/s ftp> get aa local: aa remote: aa 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,75) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes). 100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB 00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 36746099 bytes received in 3.45 seconds (10.17 MB/s) 2. Sending host with the above script running: Speed 185.48 KB/s ftp> get aa local: aa remote: aa 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,79) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes). 100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB 00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 36746099 bytes received in 193.47 seconds (185.48 KB/s) 3. Same as 2. but script runs with idprio 5: 689.14 KB/s ftp> get aa local: aa remote: aa 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,78) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes). 100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB 00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 36746099 bytes received in 52.07 seconds (689.14 KB/s) 4. Receiving host with the above script running: Speed 949.32 KB/s ftp> get aa local: aa remote: aa 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,84) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes). 100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB 00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 36746099 bytes received in 37.80 seconds (949.32 KB/s) 5. Same as 4. but script runs with idprio 5: Speed 991.28 KB/s ftp> get aa local: aa remote: aa 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,83) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes). 100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB 00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 36746099 bytes received in 36.20 seconds (991.28 KB/s) So we get: no process : 10170 KB/s sender running : 185 KB/s sender running with idprio 5 : 689 KB/s receiver running : 949 KB/s receiver running with idprio 5: 991 KB/s What bugs me is that the rates are so bad in the both idprio'ed cases. Is there an explanation for that behaviour? Is it possible to catch the case when the system is _really_ idle so my process runs only then? Thanks, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 12:37:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12627 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from idea.co.uk (ultra2.idea.co.uk [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12573; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kiril@idea.co.uk) Received: from kiril.idea.co.uk (kiril [194.36.20.51]) by idea.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id UAA27529; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:34:00 GMT Received: by kiril.idea.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BE4E22.872D9A80@kiril.idea.co.uk>; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:36:21 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE4E22.872D9A80@kiril.idea.co.uk> From: Kiril Mitev To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: yamaha woes .. FIN Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:36:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA12604 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to everybody that helped!! (One fried motherboard later...) It finally worked!! FWIW, I still don't understand the reason behind specifying a pcm0 in the kernel, just to have it 'not found', and working off pcm1 (snd1) :)))))))) Oh, well... Kiril To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 15:10:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02293 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:10:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02280 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:10:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.198] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A6CE6401FC; Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:20:46 +03d00 Message-ID: <36B633AD.3DF700FF@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:07:25 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Stable Subject: SCSI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG where can i get a SCSI device compatible list to BSD-s ? How to get RAID working on my 2.2.8Stable? -- I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ... Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin. +---------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 15:36:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05791 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:36:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05773; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:36:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx84.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.84]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02823; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:36:33 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36B63A80.6A4872D9@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:36:32 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kiril Mitev CC: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: yamaha woes .. FIN References: <01BE4E22.872D9A80@kiril.idea.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kiril Mitev wrote: > > > FWIW, I still don't understand the reason behind specifying a pcm0 in the kernel, just to have it 'not found', and working off pcm1 (snd1) :)))))))) > You could get rid of that annoying "pcm0 not found" message simply disabling the pcm device in your kernel config file, or using the "boot -c" configuration. While the pcm driver is in the kernel (even if it is disabled), the PNP code attachs the soundcard to it. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 17:35:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19213 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:35:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hyperhost.net (ether.lightrealm.com [207.159.132.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19205 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:35:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patseal@hyperhost.net) Received: from port43.annex8.radix.net (port43.annex8.radix.net [205.252.108.43]) by hyperhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18868 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:35:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:35:46 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Seal To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ahc0:A:0: no active SCB for reconnecting target Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ahc0:A:0: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET SAVED_TCL == 0x0, ARG_1 == 0xb, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x40 ahc0: Bus Device Reset on A:0. 2 SCBs aborted Since I've upgraded from 2.2.8-stable I've had various error messages about my SCSI controller/Harddrive. As soon as some of the others pop up I post them too. What do they mean? Thanks, ------------------------------------ _____________________________________ Patrick Seal |"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make | really crappy operating systems." Hyperhost - http://www.hyperhost.net| -Linus Torvalds hosting and Design http://www.freebsd.org - http://www.linux.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 19:00:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26738 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:00:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.greatbasin.net (mail.greatbasin.net [207.228.35.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26733 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:00:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@jgl.reno.nv.us) Received: from danco (rno-max7-20.gbis.net [207.228.61.212]) by mail.greatbasin.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA14617 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:00:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <012801be4e58$28f9ca20$d43de4cf@danco.home> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "freebsd-stable" Subject: Floppy Tape support gone from 3.0-STABLE? Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:00:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What do I need to do to re-activate my Colorado floppy tape drive? It was there in 3.0-RELEASE, but after building 3.0-STABLE (elf), it no longer exists. I could not find the ft0 device line in LINT or GENERIC, so I added the line that I used in 2.2.8, tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 but this didn't have any effect. /dev/ft0a and /dev/rft0a exist, but running 'ft -r' gives me a device not configured message. TIA, --Dan --Dan On Matters of Most Grave Concern: http://www.greatbasin.net/~doconnor/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 19:07:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27124 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.29.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27117 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:07:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id WAA18830 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:06:31 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199902020306.WAA18830@kot.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: releng_3 does not build To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:06:31 -0500 (EST) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" zic ===> zdump ===> zic make: don't know how to make /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/zic/zic/../private.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. The file was there not too long ago -- it is still in locate's database. But the latest cvsup removed it... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 19:09:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27505 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27497 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:09:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.2/8.9.1) id TAA50397 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:09:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:09:50 -0800 From: Matthew Hunt To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Perl auto-loading in 3.0-STABLE Message-ID: <19990201190950.A50295@wopr.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ almost sent to -current; keep forgetting 3.0 is -stable now. :-) ] I made world on a 3.0-STABLE source tree ca. Friday. I now discover that dynamic loading of Perl modules is broken: wopr:~$ perl -e 'use Socket' Can't load '/usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/mach/auto/Socket/Socket.so' for module Socket: Service unavailable at /usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/DynaLoader.pm line 168. at -e line 1 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1. wopr:~$ file /usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/mach/auto/Socket/Socket.so /usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/mach/auto/Socket/Socket.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), not stripped The bit of DynaLoader.pm around line 168 reads: # Many dynamic extension loading problems will appear to come from # this section of code: XYZ failed at line 123 of DynaLoader.pm. # Often these errors are actually occurring in the initialisation # C code of the extension XS file. Perl reports the error as being # in this perl code simply because this was the last perl code # it executed. my $libref = dl_load_file($file, $module->dl_load_flags) or croak("Can't load '$file' for module $module: ".dl_error()."\n"); Clue? -- Matthew Hunt * Stay close to the Vorlon. http://www.pobox.com/~mph/pgp.key for PGP public key 0x67203349. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 19:54:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02860 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02852 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id MAA25308; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:54:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (4.1) id xma024798; Tue, 2 Feb 99 12:53:29 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.3W9-98080410) with ESMTP id MAA16674 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:53:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.8.8/3.7W-12/24/98) with ESMTP id MAA00601 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:52:37 +0900 (JST) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Any info on ctm-src-3 mailing list? X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990202125236Y.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:52:36 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 19 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have been using the ctm-src-2_2 mailing list to update my 2.2-STABLE source tree. Now, delta files are on ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/CTM/src-3, I'm thinking of moving to 3.0-STABLE. But I cannot seem to find any info about ctm-src-3(?) mailing list. Am I missing something or, does it even exist? If not, when will it be available? Thank you, Haro ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro (Haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Office of Business Planning & Developement, Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-32454-3315 Email: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 21:12:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11095 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11089 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:12:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dexter@dexter.dialup.access.net) Received: from dexter.dialup.access.net (dexter.dialup.access.net [166.84.192.199]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with ESMTP id AAA07356 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dexter@localhost) by dexter.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA07752; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:11:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990202001150.25091@panix.com> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:11:50 -0500 From: Dexter McNeil To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Serial port probe in 3.0 - bug? Feature? And other questions... Reply-To: dexter@panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e X-Operating-System: FreeBSD dexter.dialup.access.net 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've assembled a new test box to try out 3.0 on before the grand upgrade... So far so good! In the course of getting this thing together (you know, the rumage around in the box of bits to scrape together yet another computer routine....) and making sure that the hardware was stable (easier said than done this time around...), I've noticed a bit of odd behavior in the serial port probe. I'd put this thing together without any serial port boards in it. The start up probe message seems to show that while it can't find a port with a matching interrupt for assignment, it does seem to default to having found a phantom 8250 uart for sio0. If I put a serial port board in (this one having two 16450 uarts and a printer port), it finds sio0 and sio1 where they belong. With the right uart IDs. Bug? Feature? :-) I spent a little time looking in sio.c and noticed that it seems to default to identifying as an 8250 if it can't determine which other chip it might be. Given the fact that 8250s are VERY obsolete, can't we just pull this one? The 16450 was National Semiconductor's answer to the slowness and generally crufty specs of their 8250 when the original PC/AT came out. Also, is there any reason for all the variants on the serial port cards being in one file? Shouldn't things like the Hayes ESP be in a separate file/driver? It would make it easier to read/understand. Just a thought. A final question (which probably belongs on -scsi) - I've got an older DPT board (see dmesg.today, below) which while it appears in the list of detectable devices in the dpt driver code, and shows up at a legal interrupt address when using the EISA config software, seems to cause the EISA/DPT probe to fail. I've tried looking in the source for an answer, but I don't know enough about how the controller responds to queries to follow the code through. The controller is assigned to irq 14 and changing irq assignments doesn't seem to change the error message. The controller was removed from a working Linux box that I had set up a couple of years ago, and stuck in storage until now. It passes all the relevant DPT related diagnostics. It's a PM2012B-90, which has a EISA ID of DPTA401. A DPT PM2122 passes just fine and is found and is usable by the kernel. Otherwise 3.0-stable seems to work very well. I had no problems with the initial install from the 3.0 CDs, and the cvsup and upgrade of the boot loader was straightforward after following -stable for a while. Seems to run a bit faster than 2.2.8-stable, though that's not a fair comparison between the two machines that I have here. The 2.2.8 box is the working box, and has quite a bit more load on it. OTOH, a kernel sure seems to compile quicker... Regards, Dexter McNeil dexter@panix.com --- begin dmesg.today --- Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #7: Sat Jan 30 23:17:07 EST 1999 dexter@wilma.localhost:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOCAL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 Features=0x3 real memory = 20971520 (20480K bytes) avail memory = 18038784 (17616K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0298000. eisa0: Probing for devices on the EISA bus dpt at slot 6: illegal irq setting 56 ep0: <3Com 3C579-TP EISA Network Adapter> at 0x3000-0x300f, 0x3c80-0x3c89 irq 10 ep0: on eisa0 slot 3 ep0: aui/utp[*UTP*] address 00:20:af:1d:3a:c1 bt0: at 0x330-0x333, 0x5c00-0x5cff irq 11 bt0: on eisa0 slot 5 bt0: BT-742AH FW Rev. 3.22 Narrow SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, 30 CCBs eisa0:6 unknown device Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: MDA/Hercules <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 8250 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 lpt0 at 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ep0 not found at 0x300 bt: unit number (1) too high bt1 not found at 0x334 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3bb maddr 0xb0000 msize 32768 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da0s1a cd0 at bt0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 4.32MB/s transfers (4.32MHz, offset 15) cd0: cd present [275057 x 2048 byte records] da0 at bt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 15) da0: 4095MB (8386733 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 21:24:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12568 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:24:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA12562; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:24:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 107YJd-0004fb-00; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:24:01 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:23:57 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Matthew Hunt cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl auto-loading in 3.0-STABLE In-Reply-To: <19990201190950.A50295@wopr.caltech.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Matthew Hunt wrote: > [ almost sent to -current; keep forgetting 3.0 is -stable now. :-) ] > > I made world on a 3.0-STABLE source tree ca. Friday. I now discover > that dynamic loading of Perl modules is broken: > > wopr:~$ perl -e 'use Socket' > Can't load '/usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/mach/auto/Socket/Socket.so' for module Socket: Service unavailable at /usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/DynaLoader.pm line 168. > at -e line 1 > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1. Almost certainly of elf vs aout strangeness. Is Socket.so aout or elf? Is perl aout or elf? Both would have to be the same. I'm assuming that perl has been traied for elf already. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 21:26:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12860 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:26:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12853 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:26:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.2/8.9.1) id VAA52086; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:26:51 -0800 From: Matthew Hunt To: Tom Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl auto-loading in 3.0-STABLE Message-ID: <19990201212650.A52035@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <19990201190950.A50295@wopr.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Tom on Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:23:57PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:23:57PM -0800, Tom wrote: > Almost certainly of elf vs aout strangeness. Is Socket.so aout or elf? > Is perl aout or elf? Both would have to be the same. I'm assuming that > perl has been traied for elf already. All ELF. My previous "world" was also ELF, and it worked correctly. This "make world" transitioned from a.out to ELF kernel, but I don't know why that would matter. wopr:~$ file /usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/mach/auto/Socket/Socket.so /usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/mach/auto/Socket/Socket.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), not stripped wopr:~$ file `which perl` /usr/bin/perl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, stripped -- Matthew Hunt * Science rules. http://www.pobox.com/~mph/pgp.key for PGP public key 0x67203349. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 21:47:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14757 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14747 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:47:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from waterman@ricochet.net) Received: from home (mg134-044.ricochet.net [204.179.134.44]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10479; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:47:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by home (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06347; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:46:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from waterman@home) Message-Id: <199902020546.VAA06347@home> To: Andre Albsmeier cc: John Dowdal , Stormy Henderson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network slowdown with rc5des In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:29:54 +0100." <19990201212954.A17716@internal> References: <19990201212954.A17716@internal> <19990201111258.A89636@rain.futuresouth.com> Reply-To: waterman@acm.org Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:46:52 -0800 From: TS Waterman Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andre Albsmeier writes: >On Mon, 01-Feb-1999 at 13:27:45 -0500, John Dowdal wrote: >> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Stormy Henderson wrote: >> >> > A happy camper (John Dowdal, jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) once wrote... >> > > There is a dramatic network slowdown on 3.0-stable when usign 100BT >> > > cards and rc5des at the same time. The rc5des process causes the [...] >> This should imply that it doesn't matter whether I use 1 or 31 for >> priority, because I do not have any other processes with idle priority. >> >> Based on the behavior (and not te sources), it appears that the >> ethernet-card-is-ready interrupt is placed into a queue to be scheduled >> later, instead of immediately preempting the idprio processes. IT also >> appears that the interrupt will preempt the kernel idle loop causing >> better performance if I kill -STOP the rc5des process. The big question >> is why the system behaves differently when its executing a idprio job and >> its internal idle loop. [some actual empirical TESTS of the problem! wee need more posts like this!] > >So we get: > >no process : 10170 KB/s >sender running : 185 KB/s >sender running with idprio 5 : 689 KB/s >receiver running : 949 KB/s >receiver running with idprio 5: 991 KB/s > > >What bugs me is that the rates are so bad in the both idprio'ed >cases. Is there an explanation for that behaviour? Is it possible >to catch the case when the system is _really_ idle so my process >runs only then? I arrived at the following explanation a while ago, after having similar behavior (not networking related, though), and poking at the kernel sources some: FreeBSD is not a real-time operationg system, and we shouldn't expect it to be. The interrupt from the card may be dealt with immediately, but the process that's dealing with the data isn't. The reading/sending process really _is_ placed in the queue behind whatever is running at the moment, but at a high priority. Processes are time-sliced, according to the 'hz' kernel variable. (see the -curent archives for some discussion of upping this -- 'hz and scheduling' will probably get you on track) If your idprio proc is running, and there aren't any interrupts, it will take 1/hz for it be shut down in favor of whatever is on the higher priority queues (3 separate queues are kept: "real-time", normal, and idprio). If you're in the idle_loop, then the highest thing on the queues is woken up and run. The idprio proc (remember rc5des is a hog and never needs to wait) will wake up whenever nothing else is on the queue, and will take 1/hz to finish if there aren't any interrupts; and will take long enough to do a context switch out if there are. If we're in a gap where the network proc has done it's thing with the card, especially the sending proc, which might fill the card's send buffer or whatever, it goes to sleep. The idprio stuff wakes up, and then it's 1/hz until we get any more action. In a similar vein, maybe even more responsible for this behavior, the kernel networking code has some time-slice variables set as multiples of 'hz'. But I haven't dug around in that stuff ever -- someone who really knows should answer that part of things. The given values were probably arrived at long before 100Base-T was. Try rebuilding a kernel with HZ set 10x higher or so, and run your test numbers again. --ts To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 21:47:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14806 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:47:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.sefcik.cc (cx757770-a.fed1.sdca.home.com [24.0.167.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14791 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daren@rover.sefcik.cc) Received: (from daren@localhost) by rover.sefcik.cc (8.9.2/8.9.1) id WAA00759; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:05:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daren) Message-Id: <199902020605.WAA00759@rover.sefcik.cc> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:05:51 -0800 (PST) From: Daren Sefcik Subject: Re: Floppy Tape support gone from 3.0-STABLE? To: dan@jgl.reno.nv.us cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <012801be4e58$28f9ca20$d43de4cf@danco.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1 Feb, Dan O'Connor wrote: > What do I need to do to re-activate my Colorado floppy tape drive? > > It was there in 3.0-RELEASE, but after building 3.0-STABLE (elf), it no > longer exists. I could not find the ft0 device line in LINT or GENERIC, so I > added the line that I used in 2.2.8, > > tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 > > but this didn't have any effect. > > /dev/ft0a and /dev/r Hummm...looking at the /usr/src/UPDATEING file..here it is: 19981224: The old wcd driver has been deleted from the kernel. The driver that replaces it is named acd. You'll need to change this in your configuration files. Failure to do this will result in "ATAPI CD-ROMs not configured" at boot time. The floppy tape driver (ft) has been removed from the kernel, with no replacement driver. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 21:51:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15145 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:51:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15136 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id OAA12681; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:49:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (4.1) id xma012592; Tue, 2 Feb 99 14:49:23 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.3W9-98080410) with ESMTP id OAA25358; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:49:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.8.8/3.7W-12/24/98) with ESMTP id OAA00869; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:48:30 +0900 (JST) To: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Well, what to do with src-3.0001.gz on ftp.freebsd.org? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:17:33 +0100" <19990129191733.A3286@internal> References: <19990129191733.A3286@internal> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990202144829O.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:48:29 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 38 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, From: Andre Albsmeier Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:17:33 +0100 :: ::today I found the long awaited src-3.0001.gz on ftp.freebsd.org in ::/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-3. I thought it was a starting delta for 3.x-STABLE ::but it seems to attempt to modify already existing files and not create ::the from scratch: Worked for me OK. It seems that, src-3.0001.gz has been replaced on Jan 31. Try retrieving it again. ftp> cd /pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-3 250 CWD command successful. ftp> dir 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for 'file list'. total 46462 -r--r--r-- 1 603 207 47542559 Jan 31 03:02 src-3.0001.gz -r--r--r-- 1 603 207 17326 Jan 31 09:45 src-3.0002.gz -r--r--r-- 1 603 207 13681 Feb 1 02:13 src-3.0003.gz -r--r--r-- 1 603 207 1853 Feb 2 06:15 src-3.0004.gz 226 Transfer complete. 257 bytes received in 0.032 seconds (7.9 Kbytes/s) ftp> Haro, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Office of Business Planning & Developement, Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-32454-3315 Email: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 22:26:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18639 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:26:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18610 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA19171 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:25:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by mail.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA11551 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:25:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19932 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:25:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:25:37 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Munehiro Matsuda Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Well, what to do with src-3.0001.gz on ftp.freebsd.org? Message-ID: <19990202072537.A5721@internal> References: <19990129191733.A3286@internal> <19990202144829O.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990202144829O.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp>; from Munehiro Matsuda on Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 02:48:29PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 02-Feb-1999 at 14:48:29 +0900, Munehiro Matsuda wrote: > Hi, > > From: Andre Albsmeier > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:17:33 +0100 > :: > ::today I found the long awaited src-3.0001.gz on ftp.freebsd.org in > ::/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-3. I thought it was a starting delta for 3.x-STABLE > ::but it seems to attempt to modify already existing files and not create > ::the from scratch: > > Worked for me OK. > > It seems that, src-3.0001.gz has been replaced on Jan 31. > Try retrieving it again. Yup, I already got that. Now, the next thing we need is the mailinglist ctm-src-3-fast :-) -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 22:32:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19455 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.greatbasin.net (mail.greatbasin.net [207.228.35.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19443 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:32:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@jgl.reno.nv.us) Received: from danco (rno-max7-20.gbis.net [207.228.61.212]) by mail.greatbasin.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA27678; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:32:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <048a01be4e75$b58cdb40$d43de4cf@danco.home> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Daren Sefcik" Cc: Subject: Re: Floppy Tape support gone from 3.0-STABLE? Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:25:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, bummer :-( It's not that I think 250MB floppy tapes are the greatest thing, but I already had one. And since this is just an extra (read: obsolete in the Windoze world) PC so I could learn Unix, it seems a waste of money to buy a new tape drive. --Dan -----Original Message----- From: Daren Sefcik To: dan@jgl.reno.nv.us Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Floppy Tape support gone from 3.0-STABLE? >On 1 Feb, Dan O'Connor wrote: >> What do I need to do to re-activate my Colorado floppy tape drive? >> >> It was there in 3.0-RELEASE, but after building 3.0-STABLE (elf), it no >> longer exists. I could not find the ft0 device line in LINT or GENERIC, so I >> added the line that I used in 2.2.8, >> >> tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 >> >> but this didn't have any effect. >> >> /dev/ft0a and /dev/r > > >Hummm...looking at the /usr/src/UPDATEING file..here it is: > >19981224: > The old wcd driver has been deleted from the kernel. The > driver that replaces it is named acd. You'll need to change > this in your configuration files. > > Failure to do this will result in "ATAPI CD-ROMs not > configured" at boot time. > > The floppy tape driver (ft) has been removed from the kernel, > with no replacement driver. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 1 22:38:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20226 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:38:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (net25-cust199.pdx.wantweb.net [24.236.25.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20217 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:38:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28897; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:37:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:37:28 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: "Dan O'Connor" cc: Daren Sefcik , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Floppy Tape support gone from 3.0-STABLE? In-Reply-To: <048a01be4e75$b58cdb40$d43de4cf@danco.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It's not that I think 250MB floppy tapes are the greatest thing, but I > already had one. And since this is just an extra (read: obsolete in the > Windoze world) PC so I could learn Unix, it seems a waste of money to buy a > new tape drive. Floppy tape support has been rotting for several years now. Apparently the driver code is truly awful because the device itself is truly awful. I still have a 120M unit in my workstation also... - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 00:19:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05142 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:19:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05133 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:18:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA02849; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:18:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990202000157.0096b940@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:14:54 -0800 To: Greg Lehey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Knight Subject: Vinum in 2.2-stable, but broken? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed that vinum was introduced into 2.2.8 within the past week or so, but it isn't compiled in a 'make world', and it doesn't compile directly. Is is safe to assume that this made in into 2.2-stable by accident? If so, it should probably be removed by someone with that ability. -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 00:37:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07943 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:37:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07933 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA22598; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:07:47 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id TAA01880; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:07:45 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:07:45 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Chris Knight Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum in 2.2-stable, but broken? Message-ID: <19990202190745.C76680@freebie.lemis.com> References: <4.1.19990202000157.0096b940@pop2.ghostwheel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990202000157.0096b940@pop2.ghostwheel.com>; from Chris Knight on Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 12:14:54AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 2 February 1999 at 0:14:54 -0800, Chris Knight wrote: > I noticed that vinum was introduced into 2.2.8 within the past week or so, > but it isn't compiled in a 'make world', and it doesn't compile directly. > Is is safe to assume that this made in into 2.2-stable by accident? Well, not completely. It was introduced deliberately, but an accident happened during the commit, and the modules ended up in the wrong directory. I was going to leave them there, but something has gone funny with the Makefile (it had a dependency for vnode_if.[ch], but doesn't build them). Since it currently doesn't hurt, and I don't have time to look at what's really going on, I have just left it as it is. If somebody else wants to look at why it doesn't build (please?), I'd be grateful. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 00:44:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09167 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:44:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from teimes.gr (pandora.teimes.gr [194.177.216.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09160; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:44:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hsaxpazi@pandora.teimes.gr) Received: from localhost (hsaxpazi@localhost) by teimes.gr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21824; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:44:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from hsaxpazi@pandora.teimes.gr) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:44:15 +0200 (EET) From: Hlias Saxpazidis To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, hsaxpazi@teimes.gr Subject: Netscape problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have FreeBSD 3.0-19990201-STABLE #0: Mon Feb 1 10:52:02 GMT 1999 and when I tried bash-2.02# cd netscape45-navigator/ bash-2.02# make install ===> Installing for netscape-navigator-4.5 cd /usr/ports/www/netscape45-navigator/work/navigator-v45.x86-unknown-freebsd && yes "" | LC_TIME=C MOZILLA_HOME="/usr/local/lib/netscape" ./ns-install ./ns-install: not found *** Error code 127 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Also: bash-2.02# pwd /usr/local/netscape-4.5 bash-2.02# ./netscape Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. What is going on ????? bye. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 05:02:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10772 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:02:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.29.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10756 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:01:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id IAA20354 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:01:28 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199902021301.IAA20354@kot.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: This ain't NetBSD. You lose! To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:01:27 -0500 (EST) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13304 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:22:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the-force.net (the-force.net [207.12.67.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13298 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:22:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@the-force.net) Received: from the-force.net (IDENT:mike@fast.the-force.net [207.12.67.129]) by the-force.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11065 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:26:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@the-force.net) Message-ID: <36B6FC4B.2CCA6741@the-force.net> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 05:23:23 -0800 From: Mike Shannon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.0ac2 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe root@the-force.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 07:13:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24177 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:13:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24172 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:13:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA05560 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:13:12 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990202090223.00cbd3e0@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:16:09 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: 3Com 3C509B Oddities Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I ran into an interesting problem yesterday when running 3.0-19990201-STABLE installation. While trying to perform a FTP install, my card seemed unable to respond to ip traffic. The card was set up in PNP mode (0x300, IRQ 10 detected in dmesg). The card seemed to setup correctly, assigned 192.168.0.32 as an IP, then tried to pass some ip traffic through it. I ended up with about 95% of the packets dropped, but the link light remained on, and some of the packets were getting through at their normal speed (0.6 ms). After fighting with it for a while, I went in with the 3Com config program, hard assigned these values into the card, diabled PNP, and restarted. This led to yet another interesting behavior, in this case the card seemed unable to talk through the firewall, the ping times were fine, but the ftp wouldn't work, in either active of passive mode. I have at least ten other machines behind the firewall and they were all working just fine. Finally I gave up and switched it over to public IPs, after which time it worked fine (public IP's are on a standard hub, private IPs are on a switch). Anyone have an explanation here? I can't figure it out. I also noticed that there were a number of kernel messages where IPs were switching between numerous MAC addresses (don't have the exact numbers, but I also noticed the same thing happening on the firewall). For example: On 3.0-STABLE box: ... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8f to 00:...:8e ... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8e to 00:...:8c ... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8c to 00:...:8f On Firewall (3.0-STABLE): ... /kernel: 192.168.0.32 moved from 00:...:4b to 00:...:4d Anyone got any ideas? The firewall server is running 3.0 CVSup'ed probably 2 weeks ago. Thanks, Ben /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 08:14:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01216 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:14:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vital.bleeding.com (vital.bleeding.com [206.251.12.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01210 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jjwolf@bleeding.com) Received: from crimson ([144.254.195.6]) by vital.bleeding.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13707; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jjwolf@bleeding.com) Message-ID: <002f01be4ec5$e793cea0$06c3fe90@cisco.com> From: "Justin Wolf" To: , "Benjamin Gavin" Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:05:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to make sure it's nothing obvious - is your subnet set correctly and there aren't any other machines sharing the same IP, right? What about routers? Just checking... -Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin Gavin To: Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 7:16 AM Subject: 3Com 3C509B Oddities >Hi all, > I ran into an interesting problem yesterday when running >3.0-19990201-STABLE installation. While trying to perform a FTP install, >my card seemed unable to respond to ip traffic. The card was set up in PNP >mode (0x300, IRQ 10 detected in dmesg). The card seemed to setup >correctly, assigned 192.168.0.32 as an IP, then tried to pass some ip >traffic through it. I ended up with about 95% of the packets dropped, but >the link light remained on, and some of the packets were getting through at >their normal speed (0.6 ms). > After fighting with it for a while, I went in with the 3Com config >program, hard assigned these values into the card, diabled PNP, and >restarted. This led to yet another interesting behavior, in this case the >card seemed unable to talk through the firewall, the ping times were fine, >but the ftp wouldn't work, in either active of passive mode. I have at >least ten other machines behind the firewall and they were all working just >fine. > Finally I gave up and switched it over to public IPs, after which time it >worked fine (public IP's are on a standard hub, private IPs are on a >switch). Anyone have an explanation here? I can't figure it out. > I also noticed that there were a number of kernel messages where IPs were >switching between numerous MAC addresses (don't have the exact numbers, but >I also noticed the same thing happening on the firewall). For example: > >On 3.0-STABLE box: >... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8f to 00:...:8e >... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8e to 00:...:8c >... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8c to 00:...:8f > >On Firewall (3.0-STABLE): >... /kernel: 192.168.0.32 moved from 00:...:4b to 00:...:4d > >Anyone got any ideas? The firewall server is running 3.0 CVSup'ed probably >2 weeks ago. > >Thanks, >Ben > >/-------------------------------------------------------------------------- / > Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant > > *********** NO SPAM!! ************ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 08:27:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02474 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.itnnet.com (mail.itninc.net [208.195.144.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02466 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:27:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tanguy@itninc.net) Received: from relay.itnnet.com (relay.itnnet.com [208.195.144.14]) by mail.itnnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA15404 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:27:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902021627.IAA15404@mail.itnnet.com> Received: from [10.0.2.34] by relay.itnnet.com via smtpd (for mail.itninc.net [208.195.144.7]) with SMTP; 2 Feb 1999 13:37:27 UT X-Sender: tdecourson@mail.itnnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:27:29 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tanguy de Courson Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you know i ran into the same problem. i tried to install 3.0-RELEASE with this card and it dowloaded all of 5 packets and then just stopped. i then installed 2.2.2 from an old cd and tried to cvsup and it kept connecting to the cvsup server then timeing out. the card that was in the machine before was an old ISA PNP card and for some reason FreeBSD would not pick up the card no matter what i did. but it was working fine before. does FreeBSD have a problem with the 3com 3C509B cards? At 09:16 AM 02/02/1999 -0600, you wrote: >Hi all, > I ran into an interesting problem yesterday when running >3.0-19990201-STABLE installation. While trying to perform a FTP install, >my card seemed unable to respond to ip traffic. The card was set up in PNP >mode (0x300, IRQ 10 detected in dmesg). The card seemed to setup >correctly, assigned 192.168.0.32 as an IP, then tried to pass some ip >traffic through it. I ended up with about 95% of the packets dropped, but >the link light remained on, and some of the packets were getting through at >their normal speed (0.6 ms). > After fighting with it for a while, I went in with the 3Com config >program, hard assigned these values into the card, diabled PNP, and >restarted. This led to yet another interesting behavior, in this case the >card seemed unable to talk through the firewall, the ping times were fine, >but the ftp wouldn't work, in either active of passive mode. I have at >least ten other machines behind the firewall and they were all working just >fine. > Finally I gave up and switched it over to public IPs, after which time it >worked fine (public IP's are on a standard hub, private IPs are on a >switch). Anyone have an explanation here? I can't figure it out. > I also noticed that there were a number of kernel messages where IPs were >switching between numerous MAC addresses (don't have the exact numbers, but >I also noticed the same thing happening on the firewall). For example: > >On 3.0-STABLE box: >... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8f to 00:...:8e >... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8e to 00:...:8c >... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8c to 00:...:8f > >On Firewall (3.0-STABLE): >... /kernel: 192.168.0.32 moved from 00:...:4b to 00:...:4d > >Anyone got any ideas? The firewall server is running 3.0 CVSup'ed probably >2 weeks ago. > >Thanks, >Ben > >/--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ > Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant > > *********** NO SPAM!! ************ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------- Tanguy 'Ripper' de Courson - Internet Programmer ('Perl') at ITN myneid - fool 'o fools, gnome 'o gnomes "schalin666: Okay. I guess I should allow a human's right to a higher education, so long as it doesn't ruin my pornography income" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 08:35:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03206 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:35:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vital.bleeding.com (vital.bleeding.com [206.251.12.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03201 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:35:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jjwolf@bleeding.com) Received: from crimson ([144.254.195.6]) by vital.bleeding.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13756; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:35:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jjwolf@bleeding.com) Message-ID: <003c01be4ec8$e0481a40$06c3fe90@cisco.com> From: "Justin Wolf" To: , "Tanguy de Courson" Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:26:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had a 3C509B in a 2.2.8 machine for a while with no problems... I haven't had it in a 3.0 machine yet - I'm using a DEC Tulip card in it right now. Maybe 3.0 broke something? -Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: Tanguy de Courson To: Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 8:27 AM Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities >you know i ran into the same problem. i tried to install 3.0-RELEASE with >this card and it dowloaded all of 5 packets and then just stopped. > >i then installed 2.2.2 from an old cd and tried to cvsup and it kept >connecting to the cvsup server then timeing out. the card that was in the >machine before was an old ISA PNP card and for some reason FreeBSD would >not pick up the card no matter what i did. but it was working fine before. > does FreeBSD have a problem with the 3com 3C509B cards? > > > >At 09:16 AM 02/02/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>Hi all, >> I ran into an interesting problem yesterday when running >>3.0-19990201-STABLE installation. While trying to perform a FTP install, >>my card seemed unable to respond to ip traffic. The card was set up in PNP >>mode (0x300, IRQ 10 detected in dmesg). The card seemed to setup >>correctly, assigned 192.168.0.32 as an IP, then tried to pass some ip >>traffic through it. I ended up with about 95% of the packets dropped, but >>the link light remained on, and some of the packets were getting through at >>their normal speed (0.6 ms). >> After fighting with it for a while, I went in with the 3Com config >>program, hard assigned these values into the card, diabled PNP, and >>restarted. This led to yet another interesting behavior, in this case the >>card seemed unable to talk through the firewall, the ping times were fine, >>but the ftp wouldn't work, in either active of passive mode. I have at >>least ten other machines behind the firewall and they were all working just >>fine. >> Finally I gave up and switched it over to public IPs, after which time it >>worked fine (public IP's are on a standard hub, private IPs are on a >>switch). Anyone have an explanation here? I can't figure it out. >> I also noticed that there were a number of kernel messages where IPs were >>switching between numerous MAC addresses (don't have the exact numbers, but >>I also noticed the same thing happening on the firewall). For example: >> >>On 3.0-STABLE box: >>... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8f to 00:...:8e >>... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8e to 00:...:8c >>... /kernel: 192.168.0.1 moved from 00:...:8c to 00:...:8f >> >>On Firewall (3.0-STABLE): >>... /kernel: 192.168.0.32 moved from 00:...:4b to 00:...:4d >> >>Anyone got any ideas? The firewall server is running 3.0 CVSup'ed probably >>2 weeks ago. >> >>Thanks, >>Ben >> >>/------------------------------------------------------------------------- -/ >> Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant >> >> *********** NO SPAM!! ************ >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >----------------------------------------------------------- >Tanguy 'Ripper' de Courson - Internet Programmer ('Perl') at ITN >myneid - fool 'o fools, gnome 'o gnomes >"schalin666: Okay. I guess I should allow a human's right to a higher >education, so long as it doesn't ruin my pornography income" > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 08:45:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04195 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:45:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04184 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA01611; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Greg Lehey cc: Chris Knight , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum in 2.2-stable, but broken? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:07:45 +1030." <19990202190745.C76680@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:46:14 -0800 Message-ID: <1558.917973974@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmmm. This is giving me the feeling that it's something which probably just needs to go back out again. Many people have asked me why such a comparatively large change occurred in a branch which has already been scheduled for maintenance only and end-of-lifed, and I haven't had a good answer for them yet. The "well, didn't seem like it hurt much" argument is about the best one I've come up with and it's kinda weak. I'd be a lot more comfortable if vinum just disappeared again entirely from 2.2, thanks. There's nothing that says you can't provide a patch file somewhere for those 2.2.x folks who really want such a new feature. - Jordan > On Tuesday, 2 February 1999 at 0:14:54 -0800, Chris Knight wrote: > > I noticed that vinum was introduced into 2.2.8 within the past week or so, > > but it isn't compiled in a 'make world', and it doesn't compile directly. > > Is is safe to assume that this made in into 2.2-stable by accident? > > Well, not completely. It was introduced deliberately, but an accident > happened during the commit, and the modules ended up in the wrong > directory. I was going to leave them there, but something has gone > funny with the Makefile (it had a dependency for vnode_if.[ch], but > doesn't build them). Since it currently doesn't hurt, and I don't > have time to look at what's really going on, I have just left it as it > is. If somebody else wants to look at why it doesn't build (please?), > I'd be grateful. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 08:59:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06248 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06231 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.8/8.7.3) id SAA29632; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:58:38 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:58:38 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Greg Lehey , Chris Knight , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum in 2.2-stable, but broken? In-Reply-To: <1558.917973974@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <19990202190745.C76680@freebie.lemis.com> <1558.917973974@zippy.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14007.11911.7470.481835@silver.sms.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > Hmmmm. This is giving me the feeling that it's something which > probably just needs to go back out again. Many people have asked me > why such a comparatively large change occurred in a branch which > has already been scheduled for maintenance only and end-of-lifed, > and I haven't had a good answer for them yet. The "well, didn't > seem like it hurt much" argument is about the best one I've come > up with and it's kinda weak. I'd be a lot more comfortable > if vinum just disappeared again entirely from 2.2, thanks. There's > nothing that says you can't provide a patch file somewhere for > those 2.2.x folks who really want such a new feature. > Talking about vinum, could somebody provide a pointer how to get the RAID5 module? I browsed around the webpages the manual refers to but was unable to find a way to purchase the product. Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 09:18:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08215 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (gnome.gw.cerbernet.co.uk [193.243.224.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08207 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:18:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jacs@hawk.gnome.co.uk) Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.gnome.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA79370; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:16:52 GMT (envelope-from jacs@hawk.gnome.co.uk) Message-Id: <199902021716.RAA79370@hawk.gnome.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Justin Wolf" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Tanguy de Courson" Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:26:36 PST." <003c01be4ec8$e0481a40$06c3fe90@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:16:51 +0000 From: Chris Stenton Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 3C509B in my 3.0-stable machine and it has been working fine. The only problem I have had is when the machine is configured as a multi-homed machine I have had some packet routing problems on the PPP interface. Chris > I had a 3C509B in a 2.2.8 machine for a while with no problems... I haven't > had it in a 3.0 machine yet - I'm using a DEC Tulip card in it right now. > Maybe 3.0 broke something? > > -Justin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tanguy de Courson > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 8:27 AM > Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities > > > >you know i ran into the same problem. i tried to install 3.0-RELEASE with > >this card and it dowloaded all of 5 packets and then just stopped. > > > >i then installed 2.2.2 from an old cd and tried to cvsup and it kept > >connecting to the cvsup server then timeing out. the card that was in the > >machine before was an old ISA PNP card and for some reason FreeBSD would > >not pick up the card no matter what i did. but it was working fine before. > > does FreeBSD have a problem with the 3com 3C509B cards? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 09:51:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11881 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11872 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:51:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from berend@pobox.com) Received: from auke.nederware.nl (nederware.nl [194.109.55.62]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13452 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:51:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from bmach (bmach.nederware.nl [192.168.33.3]) by auke.nederware.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00655 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:46:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from berend@pobox.com) From: "Berend de Boer" To: Subject: RE: Floppy Tape support gone from 3.0-STABLE? Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:46:04 +0100 Message-ID: <007301be4ed3$e7e40920$0321a8c0@bmach.nederware.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Floppy tape support has been rotting for several years now. > Apparently > the driver code is truly awful because the device itself is > truly awful. > I still have a 120M unit in my workstation also... That could be, but I'm using it reasonably fine here. The code isn't that bad, the biggest problem is that it does not look like a real tape device to the system. Groetjes, Berend. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 09:51:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11912 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11906 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:51:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03742; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:51:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990202094630.00938ef0@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:48:35 -0800 To: Petri Helenius From: Chris Knight Subject: Re: Vinum in 2.2-stable, but broken? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <14007.11911.7470.481835@silver.sms.fi> References: <1558.917973974@zippy.cdrom.com> <19990202190745.C76680@freebie.lemis.com> <1558.917973974@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:58 PM 2/2/99 +0200, Petri Helenius wrote: >Talking about vinum, could somebody provide a pointer how to get the >RAID5 module? I browsed around the webpages the manual refers to but >was unable to find a way to purchase the product. The Raid-5 module is not for sale yet, as it is still in Beta testing. Greg does provide a link to the company that owns the copyright, and you can contact them or Greg to inquire about a potential release date. You might also ask Greg if they are still accepting Beta testers. -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 10:25:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14869 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:25:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14864 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:25:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA19087 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:25:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by mail.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA09850 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:25:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08855 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:25:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:25:23 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: waterman@acm.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network slowdown with rc5des Message-ID: <19990202192523.A6023@internal> References: <19990201212954.A17716@internal> <19990201111258.A89636@rain.futuresouth.com> <19990201212954.A17716@internal> <199902020546.VAA06347@home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199902020546.VAA06347@home>; from TS Waterman on Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:46:52PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 01-Feb-1999 at 21:46:52 -0800, TS Waterman wrote: Thanks for your explanation. I came to a similar point while thinking about it. However, I don't know which sideeffects I am going to have if I change HZ and since these are important machines, I will stick with my crontab controlled 'kill -STOP PID' :-) Thanks again, -Andre > Andre Albsmeier writes: > >On Mon, 01-Feb-1999 at 13:27:45 -0500, John Dowdal wrote: > >> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Stormy Henderson wrote: > >> > >> > A happy camper (John Dowdal, jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) once wrote... > >> > > There is a dramatic network slowdown on 3.0-stable when usign 100BT > >> > > cards and rc5des at the same time. The rc5des process causes the > [...] > >> This should imply that it doesn't matter whether I use 1 or 31 for > >> priority, because I do not have any other processes with idle priority. > >> > >> Based on the behavior (and not te sources), it appears that the > >> ethernet-card-is-ready interrupt is placed into a queue to be scheduled > >> later, instead of immediately preempting the idprio processes. IT also > >> appears that the interrupt will preempt the kernel idle loop causing > >> better performance if I kill -STOP the rc5des process. The big question > >> is why the system behaves differently when its executing a idprio job and > >> its internal idle loop. > > [some actual empirical TESTS of the problem! wee need more posts like this!] > > >So we get: > > > >no process : 10170 KB/s > >sender running : 185 KB/s > >sender running with idprio 5 : 689 KB/s > >receiver running : 949 KB/s > >receiver running with idprio 5: 991 KB/s > > > > > >What bugs me is that the rates are so bad in the both idprio'ed > >cases. Is there an explanation for that behaviour? Is it possible > >to catch the case when the system is _really_ idle so my process > >runs only then? > > I arrived at the following explanation a while ago, after having > similar behavior (not networking related, though), and poking at > the kernel sources some: > > FreeBSD is not a real-time operationg system, and we shouldn't expect > it to be. The interrupt from the card may be dealt with immediately, > but the process that's dealing with the data isn't. > > The reading/sending process really _is_ placed in the queue behind > whatever is running at the moment, but at a high priority. > Processes are time-sliced, according to the 'hz' kernel variable. > (see the -curent archives for some discussion of upping this -- > 'hz and scheduling' will probably get you on track) > > If your idprio proc is running, and there aren't any interrupts, it > will take 1/hz for it be shut down in favor of whatever is on > the higher priority queues (3 separate queues are kept: "real-time", > normal, and idprio). If you're in the idle_loop, then the highest > thing on the queues is woken up and run. > The idprio proc (remember rc5des is a hog and never needs to wait) > will wake up whenever nothing else is on the queue, and will take 1/hz > to finish if there aren't any interrupts; and will take long enough > to do a context switch out if there are. > > If we're in a gap where the network proc has done it's thing with > the card, especially the sending proc, which might fill the card's > send buffer or whatever, it goes to sleep. The idprio stuff wakes > up, and then it's 1/hz until we get any more action. > > > In a similar vein, maybe even more responsible for this behavior, > the kernel networking code has some time-slice variables set as > multiples of 'hz'. But I haven't dug around in that stuff ever -- > someone who really knows should answer that part of things. > The given values were probably arrived at long before 100Base-T was. > > Try rebuilding a kernel with HZ set 10x higher or so, and run your test > numbers again. > > --ts > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 10:26:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15141 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:26:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cx757770-a.fed1.sdca.home.com (cx757770-a.fed1.sdca.home.com [24.0.167.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15132 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:26:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daren@partners-dsi.com) Received: from rio (rio.partners-dsi.com [38.240.152.202]) by cx757770-a.fed1.sdca.home.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA19913 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:40:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <007301be4ed8$adaab1a0$ca98f026@partnersdsi.com> From: "Daren R. Sefcik" To: Subject: How do I disable source routing Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:19:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is the best way to disable source routing between interfaces..?? thanks in advance, Daren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 10:33:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15677 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:33:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15670 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:33:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 107kd6-0005sz-00; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:32:57 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:32:55 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "Daren R. Sefcik" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I disable source routing In-Reply-To: <007301be4ed8$adaab1a0$ca98f026@partnersdsi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Daren R. Sefcik wrote: (This actually belongs on freebsd-questions) > What is the best way to disable source routing between > interfaces..?? Use sysctl to modify "net.inet.ip.sourceroute" > thanks in advance, > Daren Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 11:03:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18581 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:03:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from user1.channel1.com (user1.channel1.com [199.1.13.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18574 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:03:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@channel1.com) Received: from ntadmin (ntadmin.channel1.com [204.96.33.24]) by user1.channel1.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA01177 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:02:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990202140149.027bd600@pop.channel1.com> X-Sender: deepblue@pop.channel1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:01:49 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mail Handler Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities In-Reply-To: <199902021627.IAA15404@mail.itnnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:27 AM 2/2/99 -0800, you wrote: >you know i ran into the same problem. i tried to install 3.0-RELEASE with >this card and it dowloaded all of 5 packets and then just stopped. >i then installed 2.2.2 from an old cd and tried to cvsup and it kept >connecting to the cvsup server then timeing out. the card that was in the >machine before was an old ISA PNP card and for some reason FreeBSD would >not pick up the card no matter what i did. but it was working fine before. > does FreeBSD have a problem with the 3com 3C509B cards? In our experience (we're phasing out the last of 100 or so 3c509s), no. The card itself has a problem with any signifant /output/. In other words, it's a bad card for even a moderately busy web-server, but probably ok for a (perish-the-thought) news box. Under load, the card will simply lose the network, but will recover easily with ifconfig ep0 up. The symptom you are seeing (though not the original poster) sounds like an IRQ conflict. Unless you have set the IRQ in your pnp/pci BIOS config for "Legacy/ISA" you are probably sharing interrupts with a pci video or scsi card. The 3com card will get maybe every 1000th interrupt; I've seen ping times over a /minute/ in this case as the card struggles to get an interrupt. The best strategy if you want to use these old cards in a new machine is to run 3c5x9cfg and manually set the base address and IRQ (typically 300/10), and then assign the IRQ to ISA in your machine's BIOS. With 10/100 Netgear's at $29 it's generally not worth the effort. Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 12:45:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29877 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:45:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.planlos.net (ppp-30.pm03.hamburg.nikoma.de [212.122.132.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29858 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dizman@linux.de) From: dizman@linux.de Received: (qmail 329 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Feb 1999 20:44:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990202214407.33487@planlos.net> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:44:07 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: .. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 13:15:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04897 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:15:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04856 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:14:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA25318; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:44:50 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id HAA01494; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:44:49 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:44:48 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Petri Helenius Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Chris Knight , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Vinum RAID-5 (was: Vinum in 2.2-stable, but broken?) Message-ID: <19990203074448.F1179@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990202190745.C76680@freebie.lemis.com> <1558.917973974@zippy.cdrom.com> <14007.11911.7470.481835@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <14007.11911.7470.481835@silver.sms.fi>; from Petri Helenius on Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 06:58:38PM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 2 February 1999 at 18:58:38 +0200, Petri Helenius wrote: > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: >> Hmmmm. This is giving me the feeling that it's something which >> probably just needs to go back out again. Many people have asked me >> why such a comparatively large change occurred in a branch which >> has already been scheduled for maintenance only and end-of-lifed, >> and I haven't had a good answer for them yet. The "well, didn't >> seem like it hurt much" argument is about the best one I've come >> up with and it's kinda weak. I'd be a lot more comfortable >> if vinum just disappeared again entirely from 2.2, thanks. There's >> nothing that says you can't provide a patch file somewhere for >> those 2.2.x folks who really want such a new feature. > > Talking about vinum, could somebody provide a pointer how to get the > RAID5 module? I browsed around the webpages the manual refers to but > was unable to find a way to purchase the product. Cybernet has promised to put some info in their web page Real Soon Now. In the meantime, contact Jeff Hartnagle . Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 14:00:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11294 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11287 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:00:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA25470; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:30:38 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id IAA01843; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:30:37 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:30:37 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Chris Knight , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum in 2.2-stable, but broken? Message-ID: <19990203083036.N1179@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990202190745.C76680@freebie.lemis.com> <1558.917973974@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <1558.917973974@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 08:46:14AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 2 February 1999 at 8:46:14 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> On Tuesday, 2 February 1999 at 0:14:54 -0800, Chris Knight wrote: >>> I noticed that vinum was introduced into 2.2.8 within the past week or so, >>> but it isn't compiled in a 'make world', and it doesn't compile directly. >>> Is is safe to assume that this made in into 2.2-stable by accident? >> >> Well, not completely. It was introduced deliberately, but an accident >> happened during the commit, and the modules ended up in the wrong >> directory. I was going to leave them there, but something has gone >> funny with the Makefile (it had a dependency for vnode_if.[ch], but >> doesn't build them). Since it currently doesn't hurt, and I don't >> have time to look at what's really going on, I have just left it as it >> is. If somebody else wants to look at why it doesn't build (please?), >> I'd be grateful. > > Hmmmm. This is giving me the feeling that it's something which > probably just needs to go back out again. Many people have asked me > why such a comparatively large change occurred in a branch which > has already been scheduled for maintenance only and end-of-lifed, > and I haven't had a good answer for them yet. The "well, didn't > seem like it hurt much" argument is about the best one I've come > up with and it's kinda weak. I'd be a lot more comfortable > if vinum just disappeared again entirely from 2.2, thanks. There's > nothing that says you can't provide a patch file somewhere for > those 2.2.x folks who really want such a new feature. Well, a number of people asked me for it, and it seemed straightforward enough at the time, but I hadn't reckoned with the structural problems which blew the job out of proportion. Does anybody still want it there? Otherwise I'll take it out again, as Jordan suggests. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 14:09:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13207 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:09:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13191 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:09:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA20510; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:09:40 +1100 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd020508; Tue Feb 2 22:09:40 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12139; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:09:34 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199902022209.JAA12139@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Justin Wolf" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Tanguy de Courson" Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:26:36 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:09:34 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I had a 3C509B in a 2.2.8 machine for a while with no problems... I haven't > had it in a 3.0 machine yet - I'm using a DEC Tulip card in it right now. > Maybe 3.0 broke something? > Nope. I have been using a 905B since 3.0-R and now 3.0-Stable with no problems at all: >xl0: <3Com 3c905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.17.0 >xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:a9:84:33 >xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) The messages the original poster was getting about ether addresses moving probably means that several machines are attempting to use the same IP address and they are fighting over it. This explains why it works periodically - when this machine has 'control' it receives packets, but as soon as one of the other machines attempts to use the net, it 'steals' the ARP entries and this machine stops. It would also explain the failing ftps: when another machine steals the IP address, the in-progress TCP session will get a RST because the new machine has no knowledge of the open session, causing the FTP server to drop the connection even when this machine steals back the IP address. Sharing IPs is A Bad Thing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 14:46:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20303 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:46:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20287 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:46:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvergall@ns.double-barrel.be) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.double-barrel.be (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01081; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:45:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mvergall@ns.double-barrel.be) Received: from ns.double-barrel.be(194.7.102.18) via SMTP by mail.double-barrel.be, id smtpdwO1079; Tue Feb 2 23:45:30 1999 Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ns.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01354; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:45:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:45:23 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Gregory Bond cc: Justin Wolf , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tanguy de Courson Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities In-Reply-To: <199902022209.JAA12139@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Gregory Bond wrote: > Sharing IPs is A Bad Thing. True, if one is short off real IP's it may actually be better to set up a fake net (the 168.10.X.X (?) net ) for the internal non internet vital machines and assign each workstation a static IP and give the internet servers two static IP'S one internal + one external IP on different NIC's ( This inshures that you can admin your servers directly from anywhere ) and then you could add as a extra security layer a firewall to deny access to the workstations but allowing the workstations access to the outside world. I personally don't like the dhcp aproach off dynamic ip's... But that is me. Michael --- Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 15:44:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28308 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:44:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.webnology.com (mercury.webnology.com [209.155.51.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28295 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:44:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jooji@webnology.com) Received: from localhost (jooji@localhost) by mercury.webnology.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA31497; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:44:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:44:10 -0600 (CST) From: "Jasper O'Malley" To: "Michael C. Vergallen" cc: Gregory Bond , Justin Wolf , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tanguy de Courson Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Michael C. Vergallen wrote: > True, if one is short off real IP's it may actually be better to set up a > fake net (the 168.10.X.X (?) net ) As per RFC1918, private address ranges are: 10/16 (10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255) 192.168/16 (192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255) 172.16/12 (172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255) See http://info.internet.isi.edu:80/in-notes/rfc/files/rfc1918.txt Cheers, Mick The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webnology.com Systems Administrator ringring:asktheadmiral Webnology, LLC woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 17:50:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18752 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18744 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:50:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from cybcon.com (bwoods@cybcon.com [205.147.64.49]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA25288 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:50:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:50:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Woods To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mtools help please Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have just finished compiling mtools from the ports, on a 3.0 Stable system. When I do a mdir a: I get plain_io: Input/output error init A: could not read boot sector Cannot initialize 'A:' and in my /var/log/messages I have this... Feb 2 17:36:07 freebsd /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0 70 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19415 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:57:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19382 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:56:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvergall@ns.double-barrel.be) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.double-barrel.be (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01390; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:56:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mvergall@ns.double-barrel.be) Received: from ns.double-barrel.be(194.7.102.18) via SMTP by mail.double-barrel.be, id smtpdDf1388; Wed Feb 3 02:56:21 1999 Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ns.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA01398; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:56:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:56:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: "Jasper O'Malley" cc: "Michael C. Vergallen" , Gregory Bond , Justin Wolf , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tanguy de Courson Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks ... BTW I knew it had 168 in the adress somewhere ... Michael --- Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Michael C. Vergallen wrote: > > > True, if one is short off real IP's it may actually be better to set up a > > fake net (the 168.10.X.X (?) net ) > > As per RFC1918, private address ranges are: > > 10/16 (10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255) > 192.168/16 (192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255) > 172.16/12 (172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255) > > See http://info.internet.isi.edu:80/in-notes/rfc/files/rfc1918.txt > > Cheers, > Mick > > The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webnology.com > Systems Administrator ringring:asktheadmiral > Webnology, LLC woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 18:14:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22228 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minubian.houabg.com (minubian.houabg.com [206.109.247.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22215 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from houcbs2.houabg.com (HOUABG.COM [206.109.247.20]) by minubian.houabg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11382 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:22:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from sdn-ar-001txhousP056.dialsprint.net by houcbs2.houabg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id DK98RVN9; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:24:58 -0600 Message-ID: <36B7B1B9.5DD365AA@houabg.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:17:29 -0600 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Picobsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id SAA22222 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone been able to compile picobsd after cvsuping lately. Mine stops during stage 1 and doesn't finish. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 20:18:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09725 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09633; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from cybcon.com (usr1-18.cybcon.com [205.147.76.19]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA04351; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:18:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B7CDE6.AE2A9B03@cybcon.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:17:42 -0800 From: William Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mtools Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have just installed mtools from the ports collection on a 3.0 Stable system. Now, when I do a mdir a: I get Can't open /dev/wfd0: Device not configured Cannot initialize 'A:' Any ideas on this? Here is my mtools.conf ----------------------- # # FreeBSD floppy drives drive a: file="/dev/wfd0" drive b: file="/dev/wfd1" Any ideas appreciated Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 20:47:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15163 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:47:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15143; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:47:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from cybcon.com (usr1-18.cybcon.com [205.147.76.19]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA06465; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:46:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B7D493.D4084B45@cybcon.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:46:11 -0800 From: William Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sean O'Connell" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mtools Problems References: <36B7CDE6.AE2A9B03@cybcon.com> <19990202232632.A28945@stat.Duke.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I changed it to /dev/rfd0 and get the same error after I type mdir......... plain_io: Input/output error init A: could not read boot sector Cannot initialize 'A:' any ideas for me?? Sean O'Connell wrote: > On 1999 Feb 02, William Woods (aka wwoods@cybcon.com) wrote: > > I have just installed mtools from the ports collection on a 3.0 Stable > > system. Now, when I do a > > mdir a: I get > > > > Can't open /dev/wfd0: Device not configured > > Cannot initialize 'A:' > > > > Any ideas on this? > > > > Here is my mtools.conf > > > > ----------------------- > > # # FreeBSD floppy drives > > drive a: file="/dev/wfd0" > > drive b: file="/dev/wfd1" > > > > > > Any ideas appreciated > > Bill- > > /dev/wfd0 -> zip drive or ls120 > > you want to use > > /dev/rfd0 or /dev/rfd0c (same) > > you probably also want to make sure taht > you have rw perms ot the device. a quick > and dirty approach is to chmod 666 /dev/rfd0 > > try mdir > > S > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU > Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 > Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 > > Not only am I highly allergic to perfume; it is an environmental toxin! > > http://www.supernet.net/~jackibar/perfume.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 20:49:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15583 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:49:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15566; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:49:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from cybcon.com (usr1-18.cybcon.com [205.147.76.19]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA06602; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:48:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B7D500.F7FA232C@cybcon.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:48:00 -0800 From: William Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sean O'Connell" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mtools Problems References: <36B7CDE6.AE2A9B03@cybcon.com> <19990202232632.A28945@stat.Duke.EDU> <36B7D493.D4084B45@cybcon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Also, here is a cut from dmesg..........I dont like the looks of this: ---------- fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status) fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status) fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0: recal failed ST0 70 cyl 0 fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status) William Woods wrote: > OK, I changed it to /dev/rfd0 and get the same error after I type > mdir......... > > plain_io: Input/output error > init A: could not read boot sector > Cannot initialize 'A:' > > any ideas for me?? > > Sean O'Connell wrote: > > > On 1999 Feb 02, William Woods (aka wwoods@cybcon.com) wrote: > > > I have just installed mtools from the ports collection on a 3.0 Stable > > > system. Now, when I do a > > > mdir a: I get > > > > > > Can't open /dev/wfd0: Device not configured > > > Cannot initialize 'A:' > > > > > > Any ideas on this? > > > > > > Here is my mtools.conf > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > # # FreeBSD floppy drives > > > drive a: file="/dev/wfd0" > > > drive b: file="/dev/wfd1" > > > > > > > > > Any ideas appreciated > > > > Bill- > > > > /dev/wfd0 -> zip drive or ls120 > > > > you want to use > > > > /dev/rfd0 or /dev/rfd0c (same) > > > > you probably also want to make sure taht > > you have rw perms ot the device. a quick > > and dirty approach is to chmod 666 /dev/rfd0 > > > > try mdir > > > > S > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU > > Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 > > Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 > > > > Not only am I highly allergic to perfume; it is an environmental toxin! > > > > http://www.supernet.net/~jackibar/perfume.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 21:07:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18970 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:07:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18964 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.2/8.9.1) id VAA90559 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:07:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:07:50 -0800 From: Matthew Hunt To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl auto-loading in 3.0-STABLE Message-ID: <19990202210750.A88380@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <19990201190950.A50295@wopr.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990201190950.A50295@wopr.caltech.edu>; from Matthew Hunt on Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 07:09:50PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 07:09:50PM -0800, Matthew Hunt wrote: > wopr:~$ perl -e 'use Socket' > Can't load '/usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/mach/auto/Socket/Socket.so' for module Socket: Service unavailable at /usr/libdata/perl/5.00502/DynaLoader.pm line 168. > at -e line 1 > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1. I nuked /usr/libdata/perl and re-installed the world, and it worked correctly again. I don't know exactly what happened to make it go bad, though. -- Matthew Hunt * Stay close to the Vorlon. http://www.pobox.com/~mph/pgp.key for PGP public key 0x67203349. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 21:10:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19404 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19368; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from cybcon.com (usr1-18.cybcon.com [205.147.76.19]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA07901; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:09:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B7D9E9.F9869CEB@cybcon.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:08:57 -0800 From: William Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Holling , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Mtools Problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried doing mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt and I got: msdos: /dev/fd0: Input/output error I have not rebooted, I will try that but I am in the middle of a big DL right now... I have tried several floppies, all work fine in my windows machiene. Bill Mike Holling wrote: > Have you tried different floppies? Have you tried rebooting? (My > workstation has a floppy tape drive, which occassionally hoses the entire > floppy subsystem). Can you mount a DOS formatted floppy: > > mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt > > ? > > - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 21:37:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24066 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24058 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 12394 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Feb 1999 16:37:29 +1100 Date: 3 Feb 1999 16:37:29 +1100 Message-ID: <19990203053729.12382.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> From: "John Saunders" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsupped RELENG_3 last night (about 20 hours ago) and after making world last night I built a new kernel this morning and rebooted. First thing I noticed is that my splash screen caused the video controller to go strange (made the monitor sing as well). Then within a couple of minutes the machine had rebooted. I rebooted and bypasssed the loader to remove the splash screen. Within a couple of minutes I got a page fault while in supervisor mode (write to page not present). The machine is SMP (dual P133MHz) which may make a difference. My home machine which is running a very similar vintage has been stable. Since I can repeat this I'm going to try getting a crash dump. However I suspect that anybody else running SMP will find it similarly easy to reproduce. Has anybody else noticed the IDE disk flackyness lately? One one machine I have a ccd mirror, and on another machine a vinum mirror. If I hit these filesystems heavily it's a garantee to lock, no panic, virtual console switching works, ping works, but everything stops. On the ccd mirror machine I backup the root filesystm using dd, it's completely reproducable to lock the machine by dd from rwd0s1 to wd2s1, the file stats by dd get printed but I never get a prompt back. I think the -stable tag went on way to early. Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 22:04:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28842 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:04:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28831 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:04:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id RAA24969; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:04:04 +1100 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd024964; Wed Feb 3 06:03:56 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20524; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:03:55 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199902030603.RAA20524@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "John Saunders" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3 In-reply-to: Your message of 03 Feb 1999 16:37:29 +1100. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:03:55 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Has anybody else noticed the IDE disk flackyness lately? One one machine > I have a ccd mirror, and on another machine a vinum mirror. If I hit > these filesystems heavily it's a garantee to lock, no panic, virtual > console switching works, ping works, but everything stops. I discovered what sounds very similar which bit me only when softupdates were enabled. I also discovered that if I put the 0xa0ff flags on the drive spec in the kernel config (to enable DMA/32 bit/ multi-sector transfers), it works fine. My conclusion was some bug in the old-fashioned bit of the IDE driver, but no-one accepted my offers of a guaranteed hang to help debug the problem :< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 23:26:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15005 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:26:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA14998 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:26:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 25432 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Feb 1999 18:26:13 +1100 From: "John Saunders" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:26:13 +1100 (EST) To: Gregory Bond cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3 In-Reply-To: <199902030603.RAA20524@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Gregory Bond wrote: > > Has anybody else noticed the IDE disk flackyness lately? One one machine > > I have a ccd mirror, and on another machine a vinum mirror. If I hit > > these filesystems heavily it's a garantee to lock, no panic, virtual > > console switching works, ping works, but everything stops. > > I discovered what sounds very similar which bit me only when softupdates were > enabled. I also discovered that if I put the 0xa0ff flags on the drive spec in > the kernel config (to enable DMA/32 bit/ multi-sector transfers), it works > fine. My conclusion was some bug in the old-fashioned bit of the IDE driver, > but no-one accepted my offers of a guaranteed hang to help debug the problem :< Hmm, very interesting. Since the recent commit to wd.c that is causing the DMA error 0 messages, I have been disabling DMA mode in my kernels until it gets sorted out. I might try with DMA enabled and see what happens. Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 2 23:37:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16201 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:37:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netmug.org (netmug.org [204.188.144.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16195 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:37:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perl@netmug.org) Received: from localhost (perl@localhost) by netmug.org (8.8.8/NetMUG_1.0.0) with ESMTP id XAA21889; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:36:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:36:35 -0800 (PST) From: perl To: John Saunders cc: Gregory Bond , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just recently added 0xa0ff to my kernel and now it seems like when I access data on that drive the system stops responding to other processes which were running. Everything is "normal" when the drive stops being accessed. I don't recall this happening until I added 0xa0ff. I'm running FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Sun Jan 31. Michael On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, John Saunders wrote: > On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Gregory Bond wrote: > > > > Has anybody else noticed the IDE disk flackyness lately? One one machine > > > I have a ccd mirror, and on another machine a vinum mirror. If I hit > > > these filesystems heavily it's a garantee to lock, no panic, virtual > > > console switching works, ping works, but everything stops. > > > > I discovered what sounds very similar which bit me only when softupdates were > > enabled. I also discovered that if I put the 0xa0ff flags on the drive spec in > > the kernel config (to enable DMA/32 bit/ multi-sector transfers), it works > > fine. My conclusion was some bug in the old-fashioned bit of the IDE driver, > > but no-one accepted my offers of a guaranteed hang to help debug the problem :< > > Hmm, very interesting. Since the recent commit to wd.c that is causing the > DMA error 0 messages, I have been disabling DMA mode in my kernels until > it gets sorted out. I might try with DMA enabled and see what happens. > > Cheers. > -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ > . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | > ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | > / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | > \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | > v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | > +------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 00:44:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24411 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:44:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aire.open.ac.uk (aire.open.ac.uk [137.108.40.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA24405 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:44:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from mallard.open.ac.uk ([137.108.40.50] helo=mallard) by aire.open.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 107xvK-0007DJ-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:44:38 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990203084158.00de7260@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:44:37 +0000 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Zanker Subject: Re: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3 In-Reply-To: <19990203053729.12382.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:37 03/02/99 , John Saunders wrote: >Has anybody else noticed the IDE disk flackyness lately? Yes! I mentioned this over a week ago and no-one responded. I had noticed that after prolonged heavy disk access my machine would completely lock up for 4 or 5 seconds then reboot. I have now upgraded to a BX motherboard with a Celeron 333, added 0xa0ff flags and so far things have been fine. Regards, Mike -- Mike Zanker | Email: A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk Network and Computer Services Group | Tel : +44 1908 652726 The Open University | Fax : +44 1908 652193 Milton Keynes, UK | PGP public key available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 01:12:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29396 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send105.yahoomail.com (send105.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA29386 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thallgren@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990203091341.6059.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.116.188.217] by send105.yahoomail.com; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:13:41 PST Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:13:41 -0800 (PST) From: Tommy Hallgren Subject: Can't install from DOS partition To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I put bin dist in C:\FREEBSD as BIN. But, I run Windows 95, and it seems that the filenames could be just about anything. For example: C:\Freebsd\Bin, C:\Freebsd\bin etc etc. How does FreeBSD(sysinstall) handle this? It looks like sysinstall or the fat fs doesn't convert the filenames to uppercase. I found out this yesterday, after wiping out 2.2-stable, while trying to install 3.0-990129-snap. Should I report this to GNATS? == Regards: Tommy - The source of all good beers... thallgren@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 03:40:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16005 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:40:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mtc.relinfo.ru (mtc.relinfo.mari.su [193.124.110.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15999 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:40:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oleg@mtc.relinfo.ru) Received: (from oleg@localhost) by mtc.relinfo.ru (X.X.X/X.X.X) id OAA21959 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:40:19 +0300 (MSK) From: Oleg Zharoff Message-Id: <199902031140.OAA21959@mtc.relinfo.ru> Subject: yale tftpd dont compile To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:40:19 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE... ===> Building for yale-tftpd-3.0 (cd /usr/ports/net/yale-tftpd/work/classes; make) Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/net/yale-tftpd/work/classes Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/net/yale-tftpd/work cc -O -pipe -DCONFIGFILE='"/usr/local/etc/tftpd.conf"' -c tftpd.c tftpd.c: In function `sendfile': tftpd.c:641: argument `pf' doesn't match prototype tftpd.c:297: prototype declaration tftpd.c:641: number of arguments doesn't match prototype tftpd.c:297: prototype declaration *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- Oleg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 04:38:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25227 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:38:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from metis.salford.ac.uk (metis.salford.ac.uk [146.87.232.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25210 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:38:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@ais.salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 12072 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 12:38:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 12059 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 12:38:23 -0000 Received: from plato.salford.ac.uk (146.87.255.76) by metis.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 12:38:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 27359 invoked by alias); 3 Feb 1999 12:38:22 -0000 Delivered-To: catchall-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: (qmail 27350 invoked by uid 141); 3 Feb 1999 12:38:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:38:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Powell To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE successfully mmap block devices? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I notice the INN 2.1 docs mention that only Solaris can successfully mmap raw block devices. Does this still hold true for the recent FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE? Cheers. Mark Powell - System Administrator (UNIX) - Clifford Whitworth Building A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key M.S.Powell@ais.salfrd.ac.uk (spell salford correctly to reply to me) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 05:36:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05650 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:36:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.salestech.com (gatekeeper.salestech.com [198.153.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05645 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MillikS@sti.imshealth.com) Received: from [162.44.80.67] by gatekeeper.salestech.com for id IAA10942; Wed Feb 3 08:36:06 1999 Received: by STIUSATLCX1.salestech.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:36:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Problem with kernel 'make depend' after upgrading from 2.2.8 to 3 .0 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:36:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" From: "Milliken, Scott" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I was running one of the most recent 2.2.8 installations before cvsup'ing this past Monday (1 Feb 1999) to the RELENG_3 tree. The make aout-to-elf ran just fine and rebooted the system correctly using the generic kernel, but since I have the unfortunate luck of working for a company that only buys Compaq systems, I need to compile a new kernel with the MEMMAX option to see more than 16 MB of RAM. Config creates the new ../../compile/custom directory but when I change to that dir and try to make depend I get the following: make: don't know how to make ../../vm/lock.h. Stop Knowing that often times small bugs make it in without notice I cvsup'ed again yesterday (2 Feb 1999) and rebuilt world before trying again, just in case the config program (or any other dependencies I'm unaware of) were modified. Still the same results. I just ran cvsup one more time and didn't see any source changes that looked like they would affect my kernel compile. I'm also wondering just how the GENERIC kernel could have been built with the make aout-to-elf step since I'm supposed to now have the latest and greatest versions installed via the last make world. Any ideas? Thanks. Scott A. Milliken IMS Health Strategic Technologies Systems Integration Group Atlanta, GA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 05:45:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06632 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.29.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06613 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:45:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from rtfm.ziplink.net (rtfm [10.10.0.1]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA29540 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:44:46 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin X-Relay-IP: 10.10.0.1 Received: (from mi@localhost) by rtfm.ziplink.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id IAA99301 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:45:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902031345.IAA99301@rtfm.ziplink.net> Subject: 3.0 stable kernel build failure To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:45:24 -0500 (EST) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07624 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:53:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.29.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07617 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:53:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id IAA29564 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:53:12 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199902031353.IAA29564@kot.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: cvsupping releng_3 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:53:12 -0500 (EST) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14521 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.salestech.com (gatekeeper.salestech.com [198.153.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14514 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MillikS@sti.imshealth.com) Received: from [162.44.80.67] by gatekeeper.salestech.com for id JAA19481; Wed Feb 3 09:32:36 1999 Received: by STIUSATLCX1.salestech.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:32:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Update to problem with 'make depend' on FreeBSD 3.0 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:32:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" From: "Milliken, Scott" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, it looks like I've found the problem just a few minutes after I ask for help from the world. =) It appears that the config program no longer cleans out the directory /usr/src/sys/compile/[kernel_name] before putting files into it. Once I did an rm -rf on that directory and reran config everything worked fine. Scott A. Milliken IMS Health Strategic Technologies Systems Integration Group Atlanta, GA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 06:49:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16635 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.planlos.net (ppp-17.pm03.hamburg.nikoma.de [212.122.132.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA16630 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:49:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dizman@linux.de) From: dizman@linux.de Received: (qmail 394 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Feb 1999 14:48:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990203154843.06980@planlos.net> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:48:43 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: more consoles? Reply-To: dizman@linux.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I'm trying to get more consoles. When I run /dev/MAKEDEV with parameter ie. 'ttyv7', it says 'unknown device' so I added the device manualy (mknod ttyv7 c 12 7). I added ttyv7 in to /etc/ttys: ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure but it doesnt run. i get no error or so, i just doesnt run. anybody can help? bye -- dizman@linux.de - diz@IRCNet - http://generation.rhein.com/diz/ pgpkey available, commercial use of my email-address is not allowed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 06:50:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16972 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:50:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16966 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:50:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@hexanet.fr) Received: from hexanet.fr (nighty@proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00807 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:50:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from chris@hexanet.fr) Message-ID: <36B86235.D4AC889D@hexanet.fr> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:50:29 +0100 From: Christophe Prevotaux Organization: HEXANET X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: French, fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Update to problem with 'make depend' on FreeBSD 3.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Milliken, Scott" wrote: > > Well, it looks like I've found the problem just a few minutes after I ask > for help from the world. =) > > It appears that the config program no longer cleans out the directory > /usr/src/sys/compile/[kernel_name] before putting files into it. Once I did > an rm -rf on that directory and reran config everything worked fine. > I had the same problem too :) -- =================================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: chris@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 9 rue Roland Coffignot Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 BP415 51689 Reims Cedex 2 Use a real OS, use UNIX FRANCE FreeBSD =================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 06:56:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17709 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arka.kielce.mtl.pl (arka.kielce.mtl.pl [195.117.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17628 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:55:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartman@arka.kielce.mtl.pl) Received: from localhost (bartman@localhost) by arka.kielce.mtl.pl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA01309; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:54:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:54:14 +0100 (CET) From: Bartosz Sienkiewicz To: dizman@linux.de cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more consoles? In-Reply-To: <19990203154843.06980@planlos.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 dizman@linux.de wrote: > I'm trying to get more consoles. > When I run /dev/MAKEDEV with parameter ie. 'ttyv7', it says 'unknown > device' so I added the device manualy (mknod ttyv7 c 12 7). > I added ttyv7 in to /etc/ttys: > > ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > > but it doesnt run. i get no error or so, i just doesnt run. > anybody can help? killall -HUP init -- Bartosz Sienkiewicz mailto: B.Sienkiewicz@multinet.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 07:00:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18907 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:00:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (hou4-44.flex.net [207.18.136.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18893 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.2+chrismods/8.9.1) id JAA01479; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:00:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:00:16 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: dizman@linux.de Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more consoles? Message-ID: <19990203090016.A1264@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: phoenix@calldei.com References: <19990203154843.06980@planlos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <19990203154843.06980@planlos.net>; from dizman@linux.de on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 03:48:43PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 3, 1999, dizman@linux.de put this into my mailbox: > Hi > > I'm trying to get more consoles. > When I run /dev/MAKEDEV with parameter ie. 'ttyv7', it says 'unknown > device' so I added the device manualy (mknod ttyv7 c 12 7). > I added ttyv7 in to /etc/ttys: > > ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > > but it doesnt run. i get no error or so, i just doesnt run. > anybody can help? cd /dev sh MAKEDEV vty13 These files will be created: total 0 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 0 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv0 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 1 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv1 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 2 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv2 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 3 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv3 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 4 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv4 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 5 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv5 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 6 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv6 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 7 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv7 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 8 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv8 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 9 Feb 3 08:58 ttyv9 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 10 Feb 3 08:58 ttyva crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 11 Feb 3 08:58 ttyvb crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 12 Feb 3 08:58 ttyvc lrwx------ 1 root wheel 5 Feb 3 08:58 vga -> ttyv0 It is important that you use 'vty' and not 'ttyv'. Good luck! -Chris > > > bye > -- > dizman@linux.de - diz@IRCNet - http://generation.rhein.com/diz/ > pgpkey available, commercial use of my email-address is not allowed. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 07:07:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20249 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:07:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from easeway.com (ns1.easeway.com [209.69.71.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20239 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:07:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@easeway.com) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by easeway.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA03089 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:47:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902031447.JAA03089@easeway.com> Subject: -stable too early? (was re: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:47:38 -0500 (EST) From: mwlucas@exceptionet.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from John Saunders ----- [detailed problem description deleted I think the -stable tag went on way to early. ---end forwarded message--- Since I've heard this sentiment repeated several times on the various FreeBSD lists, I wanted to comment on this. >From http://www.freebsd.org/releases/2.2.5R/announce.html "Those folks who are still running 2.1.x and wish to upgrade to 2.2 technology are now encouraged to do so as 2.2.5 has reached an equivalent level of stability in all of our tests." 2.2 went -stable in (IIRC) May 1997. 2.2.5 came out in Oct 1997. That's five or six months between the -stable tag and solid stability. I won't consider 3.0-stable to be as reliable as 2.2.-stable until I see a similar notice. The -stable tag isn't a guarantee of reliability. It's equivalent to the developers saying, "We won't *deliberately* destroy your system." Some people (like John above) need 3.0-stable for new features, such as SMP. Speaking as a foolishly early adapter of 2.2, however, we can't expect perfect solidity out of 3.0. And, it seems to me, the gulf between 2.1 and 2.2 is much smaller than the yawning chasm between 2.2 and 3. All my production machines are 2.2-stable, and will stay that way until the release coordinator is happy enough with 3-stable to issue a notice like the one above. Regards, Michael PS: Of course, if you want to upgrade simply to be cool, that's another matter worth investing large amounts of time on. But coolness has its price. ;) -- Michael Lucas | Exceptionet, Inc. | www.exceptionet.com "Exceptional Networking" | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 07:46:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26935 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:46:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.erols.com (destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26908 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:46:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) Received: from destiny.erols.com (someone@destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by destiny.erols.com (8.9.2/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA13620; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:45:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:45:44 -0500 (EST) From: John Dowdal To: Mike Zanker cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a PII-400 on an ABIT BX6 running 3.0 stable with the kernel cvsupped on 02/01 and the rest of the system on 01/29. The IBM Deskstar 16GP has its UDMA turned on with an a0ff flag. On 02/01 I compiled a new kernel which included a commit to if_wb.c which corrected an unitialized variable; the machine then crashed within 15 minutes of boot about 6 times using either the new kernel or the old kernel (indicating the commit to if_wb.c isn't the problem). The system paniced with a page fault in kernel mode error. First I tried squirting silicone lube on the cpu fan's bearing (does anyone know of a pentium CPU fan which does not get stiction within 6 months?). The fan then ran properly, but the machine still crashed. I made the following adjustments in a hail-mary to make it work at 12:30am: 1) Tear down and rebuild the computer. Blast every socket/slot/disk connector/card/dimm/cpu with canned air. 2) Disable bridging 3) ifconfig ed0 down (ed0 is a 10mbit SMC ELITE16 which has worked without problems since 1991; it was connected to an otherwise empty hub intended to connect windoze pc's for game playing. On the last working boot, there were numerous "unmuting ed0" "errors" logged to the console. Perhaps the random rebooting came from here. 4) Physically disconnect ed0 from its hub. Please remember that no change was made to the hardware, other than power cycling after a shutdown -h now (I have a very old scsi-1 disk which will not re-probe after BSD negotiates a transfer rmode other than the default). The machine has been up for about 30 hours now without crashing. I've recently seen several new complaints about UDMA, and am thinking something might be unitialized in the driver After all these complaints of similar panics/random lockups with UDMA, I'm suspect I might be *randomly* experiencing this problem, meaning that on some boots a config register has the correct random value, on other boots its wrong. If you get lucky, its stable :) I am completely aware that 3.0-STABLE will not be as stable as 2.2, and would like to help smoke out the bugs. On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Mike Zanker wrote: > At 05:37 03/02/99 , John Saunders wrote: > > >Has anybody else noticed the IDE disk flackyness lately? > > Yes! I mentioned this over a week ago and no-one responded. I had noticed > that after prolonged heavy disk access my machine would completely lock up > for 4 or 5 seconds then reboot. I have now upgraded to a BX motherboard > with a Celeron 333, added 0xa0ff flags and so far things have been fine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 07:51:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27761 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (hou4-44.flex.net [207.18.136.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27733 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.2+chrismods/8.9.1) id JAA01973; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:51:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:51:46 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0 stable kernel build failure Message-ID: <19990203095145.E1560@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: phoenix@calldei.com References: <199902031345.IAA99301@rtfm.ziplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <199902031345.IAA99301@rtfm.ziplink.net>; from Mikhail Teterin on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 08:45:24AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 3, 1999, Mikhail Teterin put this into my mailbox: > The fresh world just finished building. Brand new compile/MYKERNEL made with the > brand new config: Did you: Make sure you included all of the devices required by existing devices in your kernel config? Try looking at LINT and the kernel configuration section in the FreeBSD handbook. Make sure the build directory was clean and that you had run make depend before compiling the kernel sources? Hope this helps. -Chris > > cc -c -O2 -pipe -malign-jumps=0 -malign-loops=0 -mno-486 -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/isa/spkr.c > ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c: In function `MIDIbuf_poll': > ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c:412: warning: implicit declaration of function `selrecord' > ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c:412: invalid use of undefined type `struct selinfo' > ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c:418: invalid use of undefined type `struct selinfo' > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > > -mi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 07:54:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28410 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:54:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28393 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA05769; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:54:28 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990203094304.00b61760@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:57:40 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Gregory Bond From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities In-Reply-To: <199902022209.JAA12139@lightning.itga.com.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Just to clear everything up... 1) I am not having a problem with conflicting IPs, I am fully aware that sharing IPs doesn't work. 2) I am also using internal, non-routable IPs running through a firewall (IPFW 3.0-STABLE) running NAT. The Internal network is running 10MBit switched using an HP 24-port switch (that may be where the floating MAC Addresses are coming from...) 3) It is an ISA _3C509_ that is giving me trouble, not the 905. I am still having some very interesting problems. I will state them here, then probably throw another ethernet card in the machine to see if they are limited to just that card/OS combination, or to the OS itself. Here are the problems I am having... 1) I am able to flood ping out from the machine to the firewall. 2) I am able to flood ping from the firewall to the machine. 3) I am unable to FTP to anywhere from the machine and maintain a decent datastream, this includes passive and active mode transfers. The connection starts, then stalls itself, never to be retrieved again. Even 'ifconfig ep0 up' doesn't do the trick. 4) I am able to FTP from the machine (file /kernel.GENERIC) 5) I am able to telnet to/from the machine just fine I don't have the time to test every network service, but I think this is some highly non-standard behavior that we are seeing here. The interesting thing is this... The firewall is also using two 3C509s and it is running an earlier version of 3.0-STABLE, possibly about 2-3 weeks old, maybe as much as a month. What has changed since then??? Anyone? Ben Gavin At 09:09 AM 2/3/99 +1100, you wrote: >> I had a 3C509B in a 2.2.8 machine for a while with no problems... I haven't >> had it in a 3.0 machine yet - I'm using a DEC Tulip card in it right now. >> Maybe 3.0 broke something? >> > >Nope. I have been using a 905B since 3.0-R and now 3.0-Stable with no >problems at all: > >>xl0: <3Com 3c905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on >pci0.17.0 >>xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:a9:84:33 >>xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) > >The messages the original poster was getting about ether addresses moving >probably means that several machines are attempting to use the same IP address >and they are fighting over it. This explains why it works periodically - when >this machine has 'control' it receives packets, but as soon as one of the other >machines attempts to use the net, it 'steals' the ARP entries and this machine >stops. It would also explain the failing ftps: when another machine steals the >IP address, the in-progress TCP session will get a RST because the new machine >has no knowledge of the open session, causing the FTP server to drop the >connection even when this machine steals back the IP address. > >Sharing IPs is A Bad Thing. > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 07:58:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29211 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:58:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aire.open.ac.uk (aire.open.ac.uk [137.108.40.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29170 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:58:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@zanker.org) Received: from mallard.open.ac.uk ([137.108.40.50] helo=mallard) by aire.open.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 1084gg-0001w8-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:57:58 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990203155710.05e6b680@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:57:56 +0000 To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" From: Mike Zanker Subject: Re: Update to problem with 'make depend' on FreeBSD 3.0 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 14:32 03/02/99 , Milliken, Scott wrote: >It appears that the config program no longer cleans out the directory >/usr/src/sys/compile/[kernel_name] before putting files into it. Once I did >an rm -rf on that directory and reran config everything worked fine. Do you mean that config -r [kernel_name} no longer works? Mike -- Mike Zanker | mike@zanker.org Milton Keynes | United Kingdom | PGP Public Key available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 08:02:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29715 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:02:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.175.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29668 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:01:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id XAA15794 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:57:07 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:57:07 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199902031557.XAA15794@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Real Player Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone succeeded in getting any Real Player (either FreeBSD or Linux) to work under 3.0-STABLE? If so, will you let me in on the secret? Thanks. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 08:02:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29856 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29333 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id RAA54239; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:58:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:58:20 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: 2.2.8 -> 3.0 tutorial is ready!!! Message-ID: <19990203175820.A48152@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! If you are planning to upgrade your 2.2.8 system to 3.0-STABLE, you may want to check out my article at http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html Please be patient - we have a slow Internet these days. Best regards, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 08:04:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00511 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:04:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00503 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:04:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA06276 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:04:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990203100744.00b33d50@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:07:59 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Just to let everyone know... I have replaced the 3c509 with an Intel Pro/100. The crd came up fine, and I am not having any network trouble with it. It must be a problem with the 3C509s... This can't be too good, since these cards are _very_ widely used, both in our organization, and I am sure in many others... Ben At 09:57 AM 2/3/99 -0600, you wrote: >Hi, > Just to clear everything up... > >1) I am not having a problem with conflicting IPs, I am fully aware that >sharing IPs doesn't work. > >2) I am also using internal, non-routable IPs running through a firewall >(IPFW 3.0-STABLE) running NAT. The Internal network is running 10MBit >switched using an HP 24-port switch (that may be where the floating MAC >Addresses are coming from...) > >3) It is an ISA _3C509_ that is giving me trouble, not the 905. > > I am still having some very interesting problems. I will state them >here, then probably throw another ethernet card in the machine to see if >they are limited to just that card/OS combination, or to the OS itself. >Here are the problems I am having... > >1) I am able to flood ping out from the machine to the firewall. >2) I am able to flood ping from the firewall to the machine. >3) I am unable to FTP to anywhere from the machine and maintain a decent >datastream, this includes passive and active mode transfers. The >connection starts, then stalls itself, never to be retrieved again. Even >'ifconfig ep0 up' doesn't do the trick. >4) I am able to FTP from the machine (file /kernel.GENERIC) >5) I am able to telnet to/from the machine just fine > > I don't have the time to test every network service, but I think this is >some highly non-standard behavior that we are seeing here. The interesting >thing is this... The firewall is also using two 3C509s and it is running >an earlier version of 3.0-STABLE, possibly about 2-3 weeks old, maybe as >much as a month. What has changed since then??? Anyone? > >Ben Gavin > >At 09:09 AM 2/3/99 +1100, you wrote: >>> I had a 3C509B in a 2.2.8 machine for a while with no problems... I haven't >>> had it in a 3.0 machine yet - I'm using a DEC Tulip card in it right now. >>> Maybe 3.0 broke something? >>> >> >>Nope. I have been using a 905B since 3.0-R and now 3.0-Stable with no >>problems at all: >> >>>xl0: <3Com 3c905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on >>pci0.17.0 >>>xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:a9:84:33 >>>xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) >> >>The messages the original poster was getting about ether addresses moving >>probably means that several machines are attempting to use the same IP address >>and they are fighting over it. This explains why it works periodically - when >>this machine has 'control' it receives packets, but as soon as one of the >other >>machines attempts to use the net, it 'steals' the ARP entries and this machine >>stops. It would also explain the failing ftps: when another machine >steals the >>IP address, the in-progress TCP session will get a RST because the new machine >>has no knowledge of the open session, causing the FTP server to drop the >>connection even when this machine steals back the IP address. >> >>Sharing IPs is A Bad Thing. >> >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >/--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ > Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant > > *********** NO SPAM!! ************ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 08:07:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01112 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:07:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01094 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:07:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gozer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (gozer@speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26455; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:07:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:07:38 +0100 (CET) From: Johan Larsson To: Michael Robinson cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Real Player In-Reply-To: <199902031557.XAA15794@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: X-uri: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~gozer/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: > Has anyone succeeded in getting any Real Player (either FreeBSD or Linux) > to work under 3.0-STABLE? If so, will you let me in on the secret? Thanks. There is no secret, just follow the install instructions. Most people forget to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to the directory where the decoding libs are. > > -Michael Robinson > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Johan -- * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 08:44:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07774 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:44:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rimmer.viewsnet.com (rimmer.viewsnet.com [38.153.104.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07769 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:44:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@viewsnet.com) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by rimmer.viewsnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14454 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@viewsnet.com) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:43 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Nowlin To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.0-STABLE & Rocketport Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just installed 3.0-STABLE on a VESA 486 machine with hopes of getting my ISA Rocketport (16) card flying a little better than it did with 2.2.8. After messing with it a bit, it's working, but... Seems there is some problem with #ifdef's or something in the rocketport driver -- if I don't define the pci0 bus in the config file, the kernel compile dies with a unresolved "pci_map_port" or some other such "*pci*" unresolved sym. (Don't have my notes right here, so I can't remember exactly what the error is.) After creating the pci0 dev in the config file, everything seems to work fine now, but I now have PCI support on a machine with no PCI bus -- unnecessary. Bug? Feature? Oversight? --Mike (BTW: exactly the same problem with both 2.2.8 and 3.0) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 08:45:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07871 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from extra.gc.lviv.ua (www.gc.lviv.ua [195.5.17.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07852 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vadim@gc.lviv.ua) Received: from gate.gc.lviv.ua (gate.gc.lviv.ua [192.168.168.18]) by extra.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA15649 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:37:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from intra (intra.gc.lviv.ua [192.168.1.93]) by gate.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA39958 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:45:00 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <013801be4f94$7a47ea00$5d01a8c0@intra.gc.lviv.ua> From: "Vadim Chekan" To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Update to problem with 'make depend' on FreeBSD 3.0 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:44:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Mike Zanker To: 'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org' Date: 3 ëþòîãî 1999 ð. 17:59 Subject: Re: Update to problem with 'make depend' on FreeBSD 3.0 >At 14:32 03/02/99 , Milliken, Scott wrote: > >>It appears that the config program no longer cleans out the directory >>/usr/src/sys/compile/[kernel_name] before putting files into it. Once I did >>an rm -rf on that directory and reran config everything worked fine. > >Do you mean that config -r [kernel_name} no longer works? Before it was by default. And I think it's good idea. Current state is bug or feature? Vadim Chekan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 09:19:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13639 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:19:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13626 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:19:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA27587 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:15:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199902031715.MAA27587@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: 3.0 stable kernel build failure In-Reply-To: <19990203095145.E1560@holly.dyndns.org> from Chris Costello at "Feb 3, 1999 09:51:46 am" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:15:05 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Feb 3, 1999, Mikhail Teterin put this into my mailbox: > > The fresh world just finished building. Brand new compile/MYKERNEL > > made with the brand new config: > > Did you: > > Make sure you included all of the devices required by existing > devices in your kernel config? Try looking at LINT and the kernel > configuration section in the FreeBSD handbook. Nope. I've used this config file without problems forever. I recently modified it to reflect the syscons/vga changes and it worked (since Jan 14). > Make sure the build directory was clean and that you had run make > depend before compiling the kernel sources? Yes, and I even stated this in my original letter. However, after re-cvsuping the problem is gone... But huge changes to the rest of the world were also checked out. So I'm rebuilding world over again. But the new kernel waits to be rebooted into. Thanks. -mi > > cc -c -O2 -pipe -malign-jumps=0 -malign-loops=0 -mno-486 > > -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall > > -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual > > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > > -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h > > -elf ../../i386/isa/spkr.c ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c: In > > function `MIDIbuf_poll': ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c:412: > > warning: implicit declaration of function `selrecord' > > ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c:412: invalid use of undefined type > > `struct selinfo' ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c:418: invalid use of > > undefined type `struct selinfo' *** Error code 1 1 error To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 09:42:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17449 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:42:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17436 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:42:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id LAA13392 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:41:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id LAA13388 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:41:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001f01be4f9c$88a5c3d0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:42:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just installed a fresh 3.0-19990202-SNAP on one of my machines. I then proceeded to build X with elf and a.out libraries.I installed netscape and it wouldn't start because it could not find ld.so. I could not find ld.so anywhere. I tried linking to the ld-elf.so (?) and it didn't work either. I rebuilt world (lots of changes in CVS anyway) and all is well. However, I have to wonder if there is a problem with the Release process that is missing this file/link. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 10:17:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23732 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:17:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23708 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:17:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA56218 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:17:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:17:41 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem Message-ID: <19990203121741.C80461@rain.futuresouth.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <001f01be4f9c$88a5c3d0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <001f01be4f9c$88a5c3d0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com>; from Thomas T. Veldhouse on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 11:42:04AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (Thomas T. Veldhouse, veldy@visi.com) once wrote... > I just installed a fresh 3.0-19990202-SNAP on one of my machines. I > then proceeded to build X with elf and a.out libraries.I installed > netscape and it wouldn't start because it could not find ld.so. I could > not find ld.so [...] However, I have to wonder if there is a problem > with the Release process that is missing this file/link. a.out will be gone from FreeBSD as of 3.1, and is disabled by default in 3.0. This would be fine except for the 3rd party a.out binaries...like Netscape. One hopes Netscape will switch to ELF before a.out is gone (hah). Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 10:25:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25146 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news2.du.gtn.com (news2.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25131 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:25:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by news2.du.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA05054; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:24:58 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id TAA73371; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:25:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19990203192504.35970@cicely.de> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:25:04 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: dillon@apollo.backplane.com Subject: Panic with 3.0-Stable SNAP 1999-02-02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Errors are are all resultion with the same trigger. Running squid and doing several lookups with wget. I have tried a current SNAP 1999-01-12 and tried the Stable-SNAP 1999-02-02 with the same problems. bash-2.02# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-19990202-STABLE #4: Wed Feb 3 16:43:52 CET 1999 bernd@hostname:/usr/src/sys/compile/PROXY Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 400911186 Hz CPU: Pentium II (quarter-micron) (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping=2 Features=0x183f9ff> real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) config> quit avail memory = 519491584 (507316K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0293000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 12 on pci0.6.0 ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on pci0.7.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:e0:18:90:a5:11 ahc1: rev 0x01 int a irq 12 on pci0.9.0 ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x0b int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 80.0MB/s transfers (40.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) da3 at ahc1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) da2 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) da5 at ahc1 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da5: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) da6 at ahc1 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da6: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da6: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) da4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da4: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da4: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) WARNING: / was not properly dismounted (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 64 (da1:ahc1:0:0:0): tagged openings now 64 (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): tagged openings now 64 (da3:ahc1:0:2:0): tagged openings now 64 (da4:ahc1:0:3:0): tagged openings now 64 (da5:ahc1:0:4:0): tagged openings now 64 (da6:ahc1:0:5:0): tagged openings now 64 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (kgdb) bash-2.02# gdb -k kernel.gdb vmcore.5 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 2740224 initial pcb at 225fa0 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0x0 stack pointer = 0x10:0xffa4d7b0 frame pointer = 0x10:0xffa4d7c8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 7321 (sh) interrupt mask = trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 243 237 207 124 30 done dumping to dev 30401, offset 2023424 dump 512 511 510 509 508 507 506 505 504 503 502 501 500 499 498 497 496 495 494 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 476 475 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 457 456 455 454 453 452 451 450 449 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 439 438 437 436 435 434 433 432 431 430 429 428 427 426 425 424 423 422 421 420 419 418 417 416 415 414 413 412 411 410 409 408 407 406 405 404 403 402 401 400 399 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 26! ! 6 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xf013cbc5 in panic (fmt=0xf020c72f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xf01eba5a in trap_fatal (frame=0xffa4d774, eva=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:942 #3 0xf01eb713 in trap_pfault (frame=0xffa4d774, usermode=0, eva=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:835 #4 0xf01eb372 in trap (frame={tf_es = -4784112, tf_ds = -6029296, tf_edi = -266052224, tf_esi = -266515610, tf_ebp = -5974072, tf_isp = -5974116, tf_ebx = 4096, tf_edx = -266053116, tf_ecx = -4776593, tf_eax = 14, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66178, tf_esp = 4096, tf_ss = -4776592}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (kgdb) bash-2.02# gdb -k kernel.gdb vmcore.6 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 2740224 initial pcb at 225fa0 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01ea7a7 stack pointer = 0x10:0xff5e6bcc frame pointer = 0x10:0xff5e6bf0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 208 (squid) interrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 giving up dumping to dev 30401, offset 2023424 dump 512 511 510 509 508 507 506 505 504 503 502 501 500 499 498 497 496 495 494 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 476 475 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 457 456 455 454 453 452 451 450 449 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 439 438 437 436 435 434 433 432 431 430 429 428 427 426 425 424 423 422 421 420 419 418 417 416 415 414 413 412 411 410 409 408 407 406 405 404 403 402 401 400 399 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 26! ! 6 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xf013cbc5 in panic (fmt=0xf020c72f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xf01eba5a in trap_fatal (frame=0xff5e6b90, eva=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:942 #3 0xf01eb713 in trap_pfault (frame=0xff5e6b90, usermode=0, eva=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:835 #4 0xf01eb372 in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -10616816, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -226674688, tf_ebp = -10589200, tf_isp = -10589256, tf_ebx = 20480, tf_edx = 5, tf_ecx = 5120, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -266426457, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -250478592, tf_ss = -266515610}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437 #5 0xf01ea7a7 in generic_bzero () #6 0xf015e6d8 in getnewvnode (tag=VT_UFS, mp=0xf2734e00, vops=0xf2667300, vpp=0xff5e6c7c) at ../../vm/vm_zone.h:85 #7 0xf01bdb4d in ffs_vget (mp=0xf2734e00, ino=222414, vpp=0xff5e6ccc) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1082 #8 0xf01b7ee1 in ffs_valloc (pvp=0xffbbc440, mode=33188, cred=0xf2805300, vpp=0xff5e6ccc) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:595 #9 0xf01c5901 in ufs_makeinode (mode=33188, dvp=0xffbbc440, vpp=0xff5e6f10, cnp=0xff5e6f24) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2082 #10 0xf01c316a in ufs_create (ap=0xff5e6e2c) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:179 #11 0xf01c5ad5 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xff5e6e2c) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2294 #12 0xf0164ddb in vn_open (ndp=0xff5e6f00, fmode=1550, cmode=420) at vnode_if.h:83 #13 0xf0161b8d in open (p=0xff5d2780, uap=0xff5e6f94) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:935 #14 0xf01ebca3 in syscall (frame={tf_es = 233373735, tf_ds = -272826329, tf_edi = 1549, tf_esi = 233100704, tf_ebp = -272770132, tf_isp = -10588188, tf_ebx = 134811480, tf_edx = 233100496, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 5, tf_trapno = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 672198564, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 514, tf_esp = -272770160, tf_ss = 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1100 #15 0xf01e27ec in Xint0x80_syscall () #16 0x8090813 in ?? () #17 0x8090d62 in ?? () #18 0x8089585 in ?? () #19 0x8060a81 in ?? () #20 0x806933b in ?? () #21 0x805c9fc in ?? () #22 0x80738a3 in ?? () #23 0x804a149 in ?? () ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sorry no debug file for this :( (kgdb) bash-2.02# gdb -k kernel.4 vmcore.4 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...(no debugging symbols found)... IdlePTD 2637824 initial pcb at 225fa0 panicstr: pipeinit: cannot allocate pipe -- out of kvm -- code = 3 panic messages: --- panic: pipeinit: cannot allocate pipe -- out of kvm -- code = 3 syncing disks... 239 236 199 100 8 done dumping to dev 30401, offset 2023424 dump 512 511 510 509 508 507 506 505 504 503 502 501 500 499 498 497 496 495 494 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 476 475 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 457 456 455 454 453 452 451 450 449 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 439 438 437 436 435 434 433 432 431 430 429 428 427 426 425 424 423 422 421 420 419 418 417 416 415 414 413 412 411 410 409 408 407 406 405 404 403 402 401 400 399 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 26! ! 6 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 0xf013c927 in boot () (kgdb) bt #0 0xf013c927 in boot () #1 0xf013cbc5 in panic () #2 0xf014876b in pipespace () #3 0xf014930e in pipe_write () #4 0xf0147762 in write () #5 0xf01ebca3 in syscall () #6 0xf01e27ec in Xint0x80_syscall () #7 0x804881f in ?? () #8 0x80482f6 in ?? () #9 0x80480e9 in ?? () -- B.Walter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 10:32:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26071 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:32:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26022; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.8/8.7.3) id UAA22541; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:32:19 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:32:18 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG CC: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: od driver X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14008.38325.211229.872688@silver.sms.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How do I force the system to use od0 instead of cd0 driver for a device? I've a SCSI DVD-RAM which I would like try to write to but since the cd0 driver does not support that (at least at the moment?) I tried to wire the drive to use od0 but was not successful. How does one accomplish this? Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 10:45:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28294 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:45:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.2.129.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28274 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:45:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmartin@calumet.infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27702; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:45:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902031845.NAA27702@calumet.infoteam.com> From: "Kenn Martin" To: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:47:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Kenn Martin" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: od driver Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:32:18 +0200 (EET), Petri Helenius wrote: > > How do I force the system to use od0 instead of cd0 driver for a >device? I've a SCSI DVD-RAM which I would like try to write to but >since the cd0 driver does not support that (at least at the moment?) >I tried to wire the drive to use od0 but was not successful. > > How does one accomplish this? We don't have any DVDs, but we do have PDs. Under 2.2.x, we used the od0 driver, but under 3.x, I believe we are using da0. The PD drives also read CDs, so there are 2 LUNs, and the CDs are accessed with cd0. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 11:05:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02623 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:05:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02600 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:05:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.8/8.7.3) id VAA22667; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:05:19 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:05:19 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: "Kenn Martin" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Subject: Re: od driver In-Reply-To: <199902031845.NAA27702@calumet.infoteam.com> References: <199902031845.NAA27702@calumet.infoteam.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14008.40371.394440.341298@silver.sms.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenn Martin writes: > On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:32:18 +0200 (EET), Petri Helenius wrote: > > > > > How do I force the system to use od0 instead of cd0 driver for a > >device? I've a SCSI DVD-RAM which I would like try to write to but > >since the cd0 driver does not support that (at least at the moment?) > >I tried to wire the drive to use od0 but was not successful. > > > > How does one accomplish this? > > We don't have any DVDs, but we do have PDs. Under 2.2.x, we used the > od0 driver, but under 3.x, I believe we are using da0. The PD drives > also read CDs, so there are 2 LUNs, and the CDs are accessed with > cd0. > So if I read this correctly I should enable the dual-LUN mode on the drive and it should work with default kernel configuration? Or were there changes required to get yours working? Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 11:11:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04060 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:11:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.2.129.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04054 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:11:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmartin@calumet.infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27917; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:11:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902031911.OAA27917@calumet.infoteam.com> From: "Kenn Martin" To: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:13:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Kenn Martin" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: od driver Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:05:19 +0200 (EET), Petri Helenius wrote: >Kenn Martin writes: > > On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:32:18 +0200 (EET), Petri Helenius wrote: > > > > > > > > How do I force the system to use od0 instead of cd0 driver for a > > >device? I've a SCSI DVD-RAM which I would like try to write to but > > >since the cd0 driver does not support that (at least at the moment?) > > >I tried to wire the drive to use od0 but was not successful. > > > > > > How does one accomplish this? > > > > We don't have any DVDs, but we do have PDs. Under 2.2.x, we used the > > od0 driver, but under 3.x, I believe we are using da0. The PD drives > > also read CDs, so there are 2 LUNs, and the CDs are accessed with > > cd0. > > >So if I read this correctly I should enable the dual-LUN mode on the >drive and it should work with default kernel configuration? Maybe ;-) That is how my PD drive works, I don't know about the DVD drive. >Or were there changes required to get yours working? No changes for me. kenn - -- Kenn Martin 606.335.7233 InfoTeam Lexington http://www.infoteam.com/ 24/7 Support at support@infoteam.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQCVAwUBNrifzYgkIyfe0NPFAQGMZwP/RHDHu+AnFcCllRCGQwMxxOyYUWtRNr4a LFBpJXQFF/TRIGKJu3PeD/4dmR7y6S37aPyT26y/YMAHki3aOlEH04/hWV3oUXPS nNQA+KKz+AxqrfA5VtXEojrro6kDng8Gk6YjlQXQXWRK4q/Cz+L+TgskClUM1tVU 3gvi97uB9PE= =giF0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 11:15:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04846 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:15:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.salestech.com (gatekeeper.salestech.com [198.153.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04829 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:15:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MillikS@sti.imshealth.com) Received: from [162.44.80.67] by gatekeeper.salestech.com for id OAA08613; Wed Feb 3 14:15:44 1999 Received: by STIUSATLCX1.salestech.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:15:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: 3.0 sysinstall hangs on Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:15:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" From: "Milliken, Scott" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After a bit of frustration with an XFree86 3.3.3.1 that refuses to compile completely I decided to simply install FreeBSD 3.0 from scratch rather than push this 2.2.8 -> 3.0 upgrade any further. I downloaded the latest and greatest boot.flp and started up my Deskpro 6000. Everything seems to be detected properly but the system hangs on "Probing for devices" phase of sysinstall. I rebooted my system into the upgraded 3.0 environment and tried to run /stand/sysinstall and got the same error. What can I do to give the development group more information so that this can be fixed? Scott A. Milliken IMS Health Strategic Technologies Systems Integration Group Atlanta, GA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 11:31:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07518 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:31:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07488 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:31:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA277709199; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:39:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:39:59 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: mwlucas@exceptionet.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable too early? (was re: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3) In-Reply-To: <199902031447.JAA03089@easeway.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 mwlucas@exceptionet.com wrote: > I won't consider 3.0-stable to be as reliable as 2.2.-stable until I see a > similar notice. > > The -stable tag isn't a guarantee of reliability. It's equivalent to the > developers saying, "We won't *deliberately* destroy your system." It's important to note the difference between 3.0-STABLE and 4.0-CURRENT is really only just a bunch of VM/-Wfoo fixes by dillon and co. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 11:33:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08009 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (net25-cust199.pdx.wantweb.net [24.236.25.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07978 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:33:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04317; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: Stormy Henderson cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-Reply-To: <19990203121741.C80461@rain.futuresouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > a.out will be gone from FreeBSD as of 3.1, and is disabled by default in > 3.0. This would be fine except for the 3rd party a.out binaries...like > Netscape. One hopes Netscape will switch to ELF before a.out is gone > (hah). I suspect that this decision will be reversed, or a huge majority of the -stable crowd will stick with 2.2.8 forever. It's pretty unlikely that everything can be recompiled for ELF that quickly. - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 11:46:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10271 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:46:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles240.castles.com [208.214.165.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10248 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:46:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08544; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:42:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902031942.LAA08544@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Milliken, Scott" cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: 3.0 sysinstall hangs on Compaq Deskpro 6000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:15:38 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:42:11 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > After a bit of frustration with an XFree86 3.3.3.1 that refuses to compile > completely I decided to simply install FreeBSD 3.0 from scratch rather than > push this 2.2.8 -> 3.0 upgrade any further. I downloaded the latest and > greatest boot.flp and started up my Deskpro 6000. Everything seems to be > detected properly but the system hangs on "Probing for devices" phase of > sysinstall. I rebooted my system into the upgraded 3.0 environment and > tried to run /stand/sysinstall and got the same error. What can I do to > give the development group more information so that this can be fixed? The following would be a good start: - Detailed disk configuration information; which drives, connected where. Include CDROMs, extra add-in cards, etc. - Are any disk lights on? On solid, or blinking? - Hit Alt-F2 and tell us everything you see. We've had reports of this many times, but never been able to reproduce it. If you or someone else in the SF Bay area has a machine that does this repeatably, we'd *really* like to borrow it for a few days. Thanks. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 11:47:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10380 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:47:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10356 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:47:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA01036 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:47:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:47:15 -0800 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem Message-ID: <19990203114715.A27993@the.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net References: <19990203121741.C80461@rain.futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Holling on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 11:32:57AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.8-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 11:46AM up 6 days, 3:06, 7 users, load averages: 1.02, 0.86, 1.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 11:32:57AM -0800, Mike Holling wrote: > > a.out will be gone from FreeBSD as of 3.1, and is disabled by default in > > 3.0. This would be fine except for the 3rd party a.out binaries...like > > Netscape. One hopes Netscape will switch to ELF before a.out is gone > > (hah). > > I suspect that this decision will be reversed, or a huge majority of the > -stable crowd will stick with 2.2.8 forever. It's pretty unlikely that > everything can be recompiled for ELF that quickly. > > - Mike I have to agree with Mike here.. Especially when I am bringing a new box up to play with 3.0 while I have 2 happily running 2.2.8-STABLE TIA Ron -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- Gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 11:51:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10958 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:51:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10941 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (root@shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA20607 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:51:41 +0300 (MSK) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01255 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:52:40 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199902031952.WAA01255@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: Kernel panics on 3.0-RELEASE X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-20728733960" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:52:40 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-20728733960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello! I've got 100% repeatable panic using 3.0-RELEASE. I have wd0 and wd3 on their usual place (dmesg output included), and every kernel I've made (actually, two; the second is cut-down GENERIC) panics after most of local daemons been started, or (in single-user mode) on attempt to ls /usr/lib panic: vrele: negative ref count. 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Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #2: Tue Feb 2 18:50:43 MSK 1999 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/MTKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz cost 3368 ns Timecounter "TSC" frequency 300683792 Hz cost 91 ns CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (300.68-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x584 Stepping=4 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 63029248 (61552K bytes) DEVFS: ready for devices Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x41 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x06 on pci0.7.1 chip3: rev 0x10 on pci0.7.3 vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.9.0 bktr0: rev 0x12 int a irq 10 on pci0.10.0 AVer Media TV/FM, Temic SECAM tuner. Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL0035 [0x35008c0e] Serial 0x00004c0a Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x00004c0a) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 3 flags 0x15 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 1625MB (3329424 sectors), 3303 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa wdc1: unit 1 (wd1): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd3: 4892MB (10018890 sectors), 10602 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 1377Kb/sec, 256Kb cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wt0 at 0x300-0x303 irq 9 drq 1 on isa wt0: type npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcm0 not found DEVFS: ready to run changing root device to wd0s2a --==_Exmh_-20728733960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ÁÂ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] --==_Exmh_-20728733960-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 12:08:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14342 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:08:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.salestech.com (gatekeeper.salestech.com [198.153.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14327 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:08:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MillikS@sti.imshealth.com) Received: from [162.44.80.67] by gatekeeper.salestech.com for id PAA20011; Wed Feb 3 15:08:30 1999 Received: by STIUSATLCX1.salestech.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:08:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: 3.0 sysinstall hangs on Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:08:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BE4FB0.F406A18A" To: "'Mike Smith'" , "Milliken, Scott" From: "Milliken, Scott" Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE4FB0.F406A18A Content-Type: text/plain Mike and Other Gurus: The system is a Compaq Deskpro 6000 configured as follows: Pentium 166 MMX 64 MB RAM Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI Adapter, BIOS version 1.23S3 Integrated Netflex 3 ethernet ESS1688 Sound Card SCSI Devices on Bus 0: 0 1 GB Compaq (Seagate) 1 2 GB Compaq (Seagate) 5 Plextor PX-R24CS external CDR Integrated Matrox MGA Floppy drive Integrated dual IDE Hitachi IDE CDROM drive The drive activity lights blink for a short period when first starting up sysinstall but quickly die out. At that point the keyboard is completely locked up and the system has to be powered off. I did manage to hit Alt-F2 right before the hang up (when running from the boot floppy) and I got the following messages: DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) = 0 (success) DEBUG: Found a network device named xl0 wcd0: cannot read audio disc DEBUG: Found a CDROM device for /dev/wcd0c There is no disc in wcd0, so that all looks normal to me. Attached is the output of dmesg on the upgraded system, which, as I said, also locks up during /stand/sysinstall. Thanks, Scott > <> ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE4FB0.F406A18A Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="dmesg.log" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.log" Content-Location: ATT-0-28BE5FEB8ABBD211AB1F006097A52FCC-d mesg.log Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #0: Wed Feb 3 14:39:04 GMT 1999 root@stlabl01.salestech.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ims_health Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (167.05-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 67104768 (65532K bytes) config> quit avail memory = 62128128 (60672K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02e2000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x01 int \M^D irq 192 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 int j irq 160 on pci0.0.1 chip2: rev 0x01 int j irq 32 on pci0.0.2 chip3: rev 0x01 int i irq 160 on pci0.0.3 chip4: rev 0x01 int i irq 32 on pci0.0.4 chip5: rev 0x01 int h irq 160 on pci0.0.5 chip6: rev 0x01 int h irq 32 on pci0.0.6 chip7: rev 0x01 int g irq 160 on pci0.0.7 vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.7.0 xl0: <3Com 3c900 Etherlink XL 10BaseT> rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.8.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:97:7c:a5:2a xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.9.0 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs tl0: rev 0x10 int a irq 255 on pci0.11.0 create_intr: requested irq255 too high, limit is 15 tl0: couldn't map interrupt chip8: rev 0x0a on pci0.15.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x0a int a irq 14 on pci0.15.1 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 8250 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x10 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 not found fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 1377KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked adv0 not found at 0x330 bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0 not found at 0x134 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da0s2a da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 20.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 2006MB (4110000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 255C) cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 1001MB (2051000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE4FB0.F406A18A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 12:23:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16375 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:23:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16359 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA295612340; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:32:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:32:20 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Mike Holling Cc: Stormy Henderson , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Mike Holling wrote: > I suspect that this decision will be reversed, or a huge majority of the > -stable crowd will stick with 2.2.8 forever. It's pretty unlikely that > everything can be recompiled for ELF that quickly. That quickly? There has been considerable (6 month?) warning. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 12:28:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16999 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from main.apex.dp.ua (main.apex.dp.ua [195.24.128.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16962 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:28:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from golovin@apex.dp.ua) Received: from apex.dp.ua (dialup34.apex.dp.ua [195.24.139.34]) by main.apex.dp.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24334; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:27:44 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <36B8B04C.9D1E3487@apex.dp.ua> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:23:40 +0200 From: Nick Golovin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Milliken, Scott" CC: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: 3.0 sysinstall hangs on Compaq Deskpro 6000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Milliken, Scott wrote: > detected properly but the system hangs on "Probing for devices" phase of Wonder if this might be of any help: we always got this when installing FreeBSD on a disk where BSDI was installed before. Was cured by booting from DOS diskette and doing "fdisk /mbr" to install standard MBR. It was quite a while ago (about a year), but I've never heard of this to be fixed. Nick Golovin Apex NCC Trifle Co. Ltd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 12:37:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18366 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:37:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18344; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:37:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) id NAA39697; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:37:23 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199902032037.NAA39697@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: od driver In-Reply-To: <14008.38325.211229.872688@silver.sms.fi> from Petri Helenius at "Feb 3, 1999 8:32:18 pm" To: pete@sms.fi (Petri Helenius) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:37:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Petri Helenius wrote... > > How do I force the system to use od0 instead of cd0 driver for a > device? I've a SCSI DVD-RAM which I would like try to write to but > since the cd0 driver does not support that (at least at the moment?) > I tried to wire the drive to use od0 but was not successful. > > How does one accomplish this? Umm, you can't. Writing to CD-R or DVD drives is very different than writing to MO drives. Even if you change the probe routine in the od driver to recognize your DVD drive, writing to the drive probably won't work properly. I suggest that you try cdrecord, and see if you can write a DVD that way. You can probably stick a cd9660 filesystem on the DVD. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 12:41:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18915 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:41:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.salestech.com (gatekeeper.salestech.com [198.153.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18898 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:41:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MillikS@sti.imshealth.com) Received: from [162.44.80.67] by gatekeeper.salestech.com for id PAA25847; Wed Feb 3 15:41:14 1999 Received: by STIUSATLCX1.salestech.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:41:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Aha! I think I figured out what part sysinstall doesn't like Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:41:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" From: "Milliken, Scott" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Being the fidgety person that I am, I decided to start poking around the configuration of the machine that kept hanging up during the sysinstall probes. (By the way, I forgot to mention that it also has a 3COM 3c90x PCI Ethernet card) After booting into Compaq's wacky little Win 3.1 based system setup I looked at what IRQ assignments were being made. The auto configuration program from Compaq had assigned the xl0 interface to IRQ 3 for some reason. Just for grins I changed the IRQ assignment to IRQ 9 and retried the boot floppy. WHAM! I made it into the menu for sysinstall with no problem! Of course I had to set it back to IRQ 3 and see if the process would lock up again and yes, it most certainly did. Looks like the problem deals with having a NIC on IRQ 3. Scott A. Milliken IMS Health Strategic Technologies Systems Integration Group Atlanta, GA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 12:52:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20633 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:52:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20620 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from loverso@sitara.net) Received: from sitara.net (jamaica.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.147]) by apollo.sitaranetworks.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09831 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:52:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B8B6CF.175362C7@sitara.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:51:27 -0500 From: "John R. LoVerso" Reply-To: loverso@sitaranetworks.com Organization: Sitara Networks, http://surf.to/loverso/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > a.out will be gone from FreeBSD as of 3.1, and is disabled by default in > 3.0. This would be fine except for the 3rd party a.out binaries...like > Netscape. One hopes Netscape will switch to ELF before a.out is gone While it may be disabled, why won't there be a compat22 install option to add/enable a.out libraries? John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 12:54:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20668 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.planlos.net (ppp-21.pm02.hamburg.nikoma.de [212.122.132.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20660 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dizman@linux.de) From: dizman@linux.de Received: (qmail 639 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Feb 1999 19:10:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990203201049.25395@planlos.net> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:10:49 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more consoles? Reply-To: dizman@linux.de References: <19990203154843.06980@planlos.net> <19990203090016.A1264@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19990203090016.A1264@holly.dyndns.org>; from Chris Costello on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 09:00:16AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 09:00:16AM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 1999, dizman@linux.de put this into my mailbox: > > anybody can help? > cd /dev > sh MAKEDEV vty13 ah, that may help :) thanks. bye -- dizman@linux.de - diz@IRCNet - http://generation.rhein.com/diz/ pgpkey available, commercial use of my email-address is not allowed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 12:54:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20910 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:54:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.planlos.net (ppp-21.pm02.hamburg.nikoma.de [212.122.132.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20890 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dizman@linux.de) From: dizman@linux.de Received: (qmail 627 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Feb 1999 19:09:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990203200943.44957@planlos.net> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:09:43 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more consoles? Reply-To: dizman@linux.de References: <19990203154843.06980@planlos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Bartosz Sienkiewicz on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 03:54:14PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 03:54:14PM +0100, Bartosz Sienkiewicz wrote: > On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 dizman@linux.de wrote: > > ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > killall -HUP init i did that.. bye -- dizman@linux.de - diz@IRCNet - http://generation.rhein.com/diz/ pgpkey available, commercial use of my email-address is not allowed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 13:02:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21913 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:02:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gate.lustig.com (gate.lustig.com [205.246.2.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21905 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:02:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barry@lustig.com) Received: (qmail 33274 invoked from network); 3 Feb 1999 21:02:38 -0000 Received: from devious.lustig.com (205.246.2.244) by gate.lustig.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 1999 21:02:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12317 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Feb 1999 21:02:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990203210255.12316.qmail@devious.lustig.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.RR) From: Barry Lustig Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:02:54 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ypserv sigsegv in most recent CVSup of 2.2.8 Reply-To: barry@lustig.com X-Organizations: Barry Lustig & Associates, Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone seen any problems with ypserv on the latest CVSup of 2.2.8? I have been seeing random sigsegv's showing up. I compiled up a debugging version of ypserv along with libc and found the following: (gdb) bt #0 svc_getreqset (readfds=0xefbfd964) at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/rpc/svc.c:432 #1 0x4234 in yp_svc_run () at /usr/src/usr.sbin/ypserv/yp_main.c:144 #2 0x480c in main (argc=1, argv=0xefbfd9dc) at /usr/src/usr.sbin/ypserv/yp_main.c:333 (gdb) p xprt $12 = (SVCXPRT *) 0x0 Here is the snippet of code in svc_getreqset where the problem is occuring: #ifdef FD_SETSIZE setsize = _rpc_dtablesize(); maskp = (u_long *)readfds->fds_bits; for (sock = 0; sock < setsize; sock += NFDBITS) { for (mask = *maskp++; (bit = ffs(mask)); mask ^= (1 << (bit - 1))) \ { /* sock has input waiting */ xprt = xports[sock + bit - 1]; #else for (sock = 0; readfds_local != 0; sock++, readfds_local >>= 1) { if ((readfds_local & 1) != 0) { /* sock has input waiting */ xprt = xports[sock]; #endif /* def FD_SETSIZE */ /* now receive msgs from xprtprt (support batch calls) */ do { =>if (SVC_RECV(xprt, &msg)) { /* now find the exported program and call it */ register struct svc_callout *s; enum auth_stat why; r.rq_xprt = xprt; r.rq_prog = msg.rm_call.cb_prog; r.rq_vers = msg.rm_call.cb_vers; r.rq_proc = msg.rm_call.cb_proc; r.rq_cred = msg.rm_call.cb_cred; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 13:03:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21934 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:03:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21926; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:02:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.8/8.7.3) id XAA22957; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:02:41 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:02:41 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: od driver In-Reply-To: <199902032037.NAA39697@panzer.plutotech.com> References: <14008.38325.211229.872688@silver.sms.fi> <199902032037.NAA39697@panzer.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14008.47444.55701.124427@silver.sms.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth D. Merry writes: > Petri Helenius wrote... > > > > How do I force the system to use od0 instead of cd0 driver for a > > device? I've a SCSI DVD-RAM which I would like try to write to but > > since the cd0 driver does not support that (at least at the moment?) > > I tried to wire the drive to use od0 but was not successful. > > > > How does one accomplish this? > > Umm, you can't. Writing to CD-R or DVD drives is very different than > writing to MO drives. Even if you change the probe routine in the od > driver to recognize your DVD drive, writing to the drive probably won't > work properly. > > I suggest that you try cdrecord, and see if you can write a DVD that way. > You can probably stick a cd9660 filesystem on the DVD. > DVD-RAM is a random access media, quite unlike CD-R which is written in sessions. Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 13:05:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22279 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:05:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22271 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:05:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu (root@saul5.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.3]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA12398; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:05:08 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul5.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id NAA29888; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:05:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:04:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Michael Robinson cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Real Player In-Reply-To: <199902031557.XAA15794@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: >Has anyone succeeded in getting any Real Player (either FreeBSD or Linux) >to work under 3.0-STABLE? If so, will you let me in on the secret? Thanks. I use rvplayer5.0 for Linux on my box. The key for me was this shell script. I pointed netscape at this script and everything works well. (I do get rvplayer to crash on video sometimes.) HTH! #!/usr/local/bin/bash # Author: Jason C. Wells # 8 December, 1998 # This trivial program is used to run the Linux version of rvplayer which # seems to not read the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH correctly # from my login environment. LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/bin/rvplayer5.0 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH rvplayer $1 Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 13:18:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24059 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24054 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:18:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@AUSS2.ALCATEL.COM.AU) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40388>; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:08:23 +1100 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:18:15 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: RE: Kernel panic with recent RELENG_3 To: jdowdal@destiny.erols.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Feb4.080823est.40388@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Dowdal wrote: >1) Tear down and rebuild the computer. Blast every socket/slot/disk > connector/card/dimm/cpu with canned air. ... >Please remember that no change was made to the hardware, other than power >cycling Unplugging and reconnecting every connector is effectively a hardware change. Connections that may have been previously dodgy have been wiped clean (and previously good connections may now have dust caught in them). Getting rid of all the dust _is_ a positive step - both thermally and electrically (at best, dust increases stray capacitances, at worst, damp dust is conductive). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 13:23:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24742 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24736 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:23:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvergall@ns.double-barrel.be) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.double-barrel.be (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03062; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:23:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mvergall@ns.double-barrel.be) Received: from ns.double-barrel.be(194.7.102.18) via SMTP by mail.double-barrel.be, id smtpdta3060; Wed Feb 3 22:22:57 1999 Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ns.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA01943; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:22:55 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:22:55 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: "Milliken, Scott" cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Aha! I think I figured out what part sysinstall doesn't like In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think that has to do with what IRQ 3 is normally used for e.i. a com port. And if I remember correctly from the FreeBSD bootup sequence it allways looks for a comm port during sysinstall. --- Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Milliken, Scott wrote: > Being the fidgety person that I am, I decided to start poking around the > configuration of the machine that kept hanging up during the sysinstall > probes. (By the way, I forgot to mention that it also has a 3COM 3c90x PCI > Ethernet card) After booting into Compaq's wacky little Win 3.1 based > system setup I looked at what IRQ assignments were being made. The auto > configuration program from Compaq had assigned the xl0 interface to IRQ 3 > for some reason. Just for grins I changed the IRQ assignment to IRQ 9 and > retried the boot floppy. WHAM! I made it into the menu for sysinstall > with no problem! Of course I had to set it back to IRQ 3 and see if the > process would lock up again and yes, it most certainly did. > > Looks like the problem deals with having a NIC on IRQ 3. > > Scott A. Milliken > IMS Health Strategic Technologies > Systems Integration Group > Atlanta, GA > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 13:31:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26406 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:31:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26386; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:31:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) id OAA40124; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:31:24 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199902032131.OAA40124@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: od driver In-Reply-To: <14008.47444.55701.124427@silver.sms.fi> from Petri Helenius at "Feb 3, 1999 11: 2:41 pm" To: pete@sms.fi (Petri Helenius) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:31:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Petri Helenius wrote... > Kenneth D. Merry writes: > > Petri Helenius wrote... > > > > > > How do I force the system to use od0 instead of cd0 driver for a > > > device? I've a SCSI DVD-RAM which I would like try to write to but > > > since the cd0 driver does not support that (at least at the moment?) > > > I tried to wire the drive to use od0 but was not successful. > > > > > > How does one accomplish this? > > > > Umm, you can't. Writing to CD-R or DVD drives is very different than > > writing to MO drives. Even if you change the probe routine in the od > > driver to recognize your DVD drive, writing to the drive probably won't > > work properly. > > > > I suggest that you try cdrecord, and see if you can write a DVD that way. > > You can probably stick a cd9660 filesystem on the DVD. > > > DVD-RAM is a random access media, quite unlike CD-R which is written > in sessions. Well, you can certainly try it. I think it would be easier to just use the CAM cd driver, though. It should already support writing, and it'll attach to your drive by default. I'm not sure, though that the cd9660 filesystem code can support writes. You may have to use a standard ufs filesystem on the CD for that. I just tried a few experiments to see if I could get a cd9660 filesystem to mount read-write (using the vn device), and I wasn't able to get it to work. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 13:34:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26899 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:34:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26894 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40390>; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:24:30 +1100 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:34:24 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem To: myke@ees.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Feb4.082430est.40390@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Holling wrote: >> a.out will be gone from FreeBSD as of 3.1, and is disabled by default in >> 3.0. This would be fine except for the 3rd party a.out binaries...like >> Netscape. One hopes Netscape will switch to ELF before a.out is gone >> (hah). > >I suspect that this decision will be reversed, or a huge majority of the >-stable crowd will stick with 2.2.8 forever. It's pretty unlikely that >everything can be recompiled for ELF that quickly. The initial statement was referring to _development_tools_ only: 3.1 (and later) will lose the capability to build a.out executables. The kernel will still be able to execute pre-existing a.out executables (assuming you have installed the shared libraries which are part of the 2.x compatibility package). The only problem area in the transition is 3rd-party libraries (eg Motif). To link and/or execute a new application, you'll need an ELF version of the library. (But you'll still need an a.out shared lib for an a.out executable). a.out executables _will_ be supported for the foreseeable future. (And it's worthwhile noting that recent 2.x kernels can execute ELF binaries (at least 2.2.7 does)). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 14:24:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04972 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:24:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from houston.matchlogic.com (houston.matchlogic.com [205.216.147.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04966 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:24:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonb@matchlogic.com) Received: by houston.matchlogic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:23:41 -0700 Message-ID: <64003B21ECCAD11185C500805F31EC0301977D8D@houston.matchlogic.com> From: Jon Bailey To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:23:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a note for everyone when partitioning your HD for FreeBSD, if you use the entire disk "dedicated" instead of using a DOS/other compatible master boot record, some BIOS' won't load the FreeBSD MBR and will die. (And, I surmise, some BIOS' may think it's a virus.) -jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 14:39:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07730 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:39:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07722 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:39:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA13421; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:39:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Mike Holling cc: Stormy Henderson , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:32:57 PST." Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:39:54 -0800 Message-ID: <13417.918081594@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There's no decision to reverse. We're already ELF and there's certainly no going back at this point - many of our ISVs are already switching their products over. The a.out libraries are still available, of course, and I have no problems running any of my reasonably (~1 year) up to date a.out stuff. - Jordan > > a.out will be gone from FreeBSD as of 3.1, and is disabled by default in > > 3.0. This would be fine except for the 3rd party a.out binaries...like > > Netscape. One hopes Netscape will switch to ELF before a.out is gone > > (hah). > > I suspect that this decision will be reversed, or a huge majority of the > -stable crowd will stick with 2.2.8 forever. It's pretty unlikely that > everything can be recompiled for ELF that quickly. > > - Mike > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 14:43:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08461 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:43:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd91.hotmail.com [207.82.252.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08452 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:42:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tar1189@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 3980 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 1999 22:42:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990203224254.3979.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 150.192.176.104 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:42:54 PST X-Originating-IP: [150.192.176.104] From: "Thad Anderson" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Trying to Download 3.0 Stable Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:42:54 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to download the 3.0 stable, but it doesnt seem to have a complete directory structure. could someone please help me. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 15:27:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15744 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from repop1.jps.net (repop1.jps.net [209.63.224.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15733 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:27:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from onemo@jps.net) Received: from jps.net (209-63-247-132.smf.jps.net [209.63.247.132]) by repop1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18879; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:27:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B8DA72.F58BB5D1@jps.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:23:30 -0800 From: ONE-MO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: md@doc.ic.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, to continue this saga a bit longer... I finally get the thing probed correctly - I specified port 0x0 in my kernel configuration which allows it to detect the correct value upon boot. It (the probe) detects my 8Gb logical drive and all would seem well; until I try to access the drive in any manner (at least those I've tried). If I run: fdisk, disklabel, fsck, or even sysinstall - I get a locked process. The rest of the system functions fine, except shutting down, and top shows no CPU utilization by the hosed PID. A ps shows the PID with a status of D and it will not kill nor succeed (I left an fdisk sitting overnight). Any further suggestions? MO! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 16:02:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22676 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:02:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22595 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-112.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.112]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01875; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id QAA24800; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:01:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:01:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902040001.QAA24800@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com CC: myke@ees.com, stormy@futuresouth.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <13417.918081594@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * The a.out libraries are still available, of course, and I have no problems * running any of my reasonably (~1 year) up to date a.out stuff. Will it be a sysinstall option? What would be the recommended way for ports to verify that they are available? (Check /usr/lib/aout/crt0.o?) I'd like to put in some safety belts so we won't see an influx of "why doesn't my netscape work?" messages when people install 3.1R.... Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 16:15:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26673 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:15:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26667 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:15:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-112.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.112]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01893; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id QAA24841; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:15:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:15:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902040015.QAA24841@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: brooks@one-eyed-alien.net CC: archie@whistle.com, steveo@iol.ie, rbezuide@oskar.nanoteq.co.za, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (brooks@one-eyed-alien.net) Subject: Re: make port and bsd.port.mk From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (Redirected from -current.) * From: brooks@one-eyed-alien.net * On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: * > I'm curious what the reason for moving the includes to /usr/ports/Mk * > was.. is this to insure better consistency? That would make sense. Yes. There is also a plan to add some "versioning" mechanism to have the bsd.port.mk in the tree automatically check the existence of an upgrade kit or a reasonably close "make world" so the rest of the /usr/src dependencies can be automatically handled too, but that's only just a plan so far. * It makes since to me, but I'm a little confused about the timing of this * change. It was rather annoying to update my 2.2.8-STABLE machine a day or * two after being told that cvsuping ports on a 2.2 machine might cause * breakage (re: the no more 2.2 support announcement) to find that *not* * cvsuping ports broke my ports collection because the makefiles moved to * /usr/ports/Mk. Don't get me wrong, I like the change, but the timing * seems less the perfect. Huum. I deliberately merged that change after the announcement since I didn't introduce any breakage in the final snapshot, although I wanted to give a chance to people who would try to follow ports-current anyway. But you are right, I probably outsmarted myself. Hmm, how can I fix this. What do people think of something like: === PORTSDIR?= /usr/ports .if exists(${PORTSDIR}/Mk/bsd.port.mk) .include "${PORTSDIR}/Mk/bsd.port.mk" .else : rest of original bsd.port.mk : .endif === as a final version of bsd.port.mk in 2.2-stable? Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 16:17:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26829 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:17:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26810 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:17:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id QAA76195; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:17:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:17:18 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199902040017.QAA76195@apollo.backplane.com> To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Panic with 3.0-Stable SNAP 1999-02-02 References: <19990203192504.35970@cicely.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmm. If you can, please go to frame 6 and print out '*z'. Also print out *kernel_map: frame 6 print *z print *kernel_map I'm not sure why it isn't listing the _zget() in a frame. It's hard to tell where the bzero is being called from. It appears to be trying to bzero() NULL, which means either kmem_malloc() or kmem_alloc() returned NULL. This in turn can only happen in a few specific instances, such as if you run out of KVM. Please also do this: cd /var/crash vmstat -m -N kernel.gdb -M vmcore.6 To see if your KVM has filled up. -Matt Matthew Dillon : :The Errors are are all resultion with the same trigger. :Running squid and doing several lookups with wget. :I have tried a current SNAP 1999-01-12 :and tried the Stable-SNAP 1999-02-02 with the same problems. :... :#4 0xf01eb372 in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -10616816, tf_edi = 0, : tf_esi = -226674688, tf_ebp = -10589200, tf_isp = -10589256, : tf_ebx = 20480, tf_edx = 5, tf_ecx = 5120, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, : tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -266426457, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, : tf_esp = -250478592, tf_ss = -266515610}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437 :#5 0xf01ea7a7 in generic_bzero () :#6 0xf015e6d8 in getnewvnode (tag=VT_UFS, mp=0xf2734e00, vops=0xf2667300, : vpp=0xff5e6c7c) at ../../vm/vm_zone.h:85 :#7 0xf01bdb4d in ffs_vget (mp=0xf2734e00, ino=222414, vpp=0xff5e6ccc) : at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1082 :#8 0xf01b7ee1 in ffs_valloc (pvp=0xffbbc440, mode=33188, cred=0xf2805300, : vpp=0xff5e6ccc) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:595 :#9 0xf01c5901 in ufs_makeinode (mode=33188, dvp=0xffbbc440, vpp=0xff5e6f10, : cnp=0xff5e6f24) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2082 :#10 0xf01c316a in ufs_create (ap=0xff5e6e2c) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:179 :#11 0xf01c5ad5 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xff5e6e2c) : at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2294 :#12 0xf0164ddb in vn_open (ndp=0xff5e6f00, fmode=1550, cmode=420) : at vnode_if.h:83 :#13 0xf0161b8d in open (p=0xff5d2780, uap=0xff5e6f94) : at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:935 :... :-- : B.Walter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 17:19:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05112 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05104; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:19:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net) From: brooks@one-eyed-alien.net Received: from localhost (brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08064; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:19:16 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.ac.hmc.edu: brdavis owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:19:16 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu To: Satoshi Asami cc: brooks@one-eyed-alien.net, archie@whistle.com, steveo@iol.ie, rbezuide@oskar.nanoteq.co.za, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make port and bsd.port.mk In-Reply-To: <199902040015.QAA24841@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Satoshi Asami wrote: > Yes. There is also a plan to add some "versioning" mechanism to have > the bsd.port.mk in the tree automatically check the existence of an > upgrade kit or a reasonably close "make world" so the rest of the > /usr/src dependencies can be automatically handled too, but that's > only just a plan so far. That sounds great. It sure would have been cool to have ports upgrade when I did the make upgrade to 3.0 from 2.2.8 (not that I'm complaining about the lack of that very difficult to implement feature). > But you are right, I probably outsmarted myself. Hmm, how can I fix > this. What do people think of something like: > [snip] > > as a final version of bsd.port.mk in 2.2-stable? That would work for me on my remaining 2.2 boxes. On other alternative would be to simply have the new version of the makefile tell people how to fix the problem by grabing snapshots from some ftp/web site or a very limited anon-cvs checkout from freefall (what I did) or some other solution. -- Brooks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 17:43:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08616 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bubba.whistle.com (s205m7.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08605; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:43:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id RAA06572; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:43:23 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199902040143.RAA06572@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: make port and bsd.port.mk In-Reply-To: <199902040015.QAA24841@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> from Satoshi Asami at "Feb 3, 99 04:15:04 pm" To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:43:23 -0800 (PST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Satoshi Asami writes: > But you are right, I probably outsmarted myself. Hmm, how can I fix > this. What do people think of something like: > > === > PORTSDIR?= /usr/ports > .if exists(${PORTSDIR}/Mk/bsd.port.mk) > .include "${PORTSDIR}/Mk/bsd.port.mk" > .else > : > rest of original bsd.port.mk > : > .endif > === > > as a final version of bsd.port.mk in 2.2-stable? That looks reasonable to me... Also (unrelated comment), somewhere it should be pointed out (if it's not already) that in order to build any ports yourself, you really have to have the entire ports tree checked out because of all the inter-port dependencies. Another question: when you do an install and include X, should it register the XFree86 port, so all the x utilities don't give a warning message? -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 18:04:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11627 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minubian.houabg.com (minubian.houabg.com [206.109.247.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11619 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:04:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from houcbs2.houabg.com (HOUABG.COM [206.109.247.20]) by minubian.houabg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24323 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:11:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from sdn-ar-001txhousP056.dialsprint.net by houcbs2.houabg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id DK98RVWN; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:14:39 -0600 Message-ID: <36B900D0.C06E73BB@houabg.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:07:12 -0600 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id SAA11623 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I notice that when I run my kernel -C to configure it, the next time I boot it doesn't remember my settings. Does anyone know how to fix this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 18:34:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17735 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:34:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17724 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:34:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA21198; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:34:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA18221; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:34:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902040234.SAA18221@vashon.polstra.com> To: jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com Subject: Re: fixed: no RELENG_3 in my CVSup'd repository? In-Reply-To: <199902011758.RAA21084@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199902011758.RAA21084@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com>, Jerry Hicks wrote: > > You needed to add the line: > ' RELENG_3 y' to $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/val-tags Cvs checkout or cvs update will add it automatically, if you give it enough time. (That doesn't seem to work for remote cvs, though.) > You probably synchronized your repository just before freefall.freebsd.org > migrated to RELENG_3? We don't send out the val-tags file in CVSup updates, because it's really a system-local file. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 18:37:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18340 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:37:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18317; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA14414; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:37:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: myke@ees.com, stormy@futuresouth.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:01:46 PST." <199902040001.QAA24800@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:37:46 -0800 Message-ID: <14410.918095866@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I guess, yeah. We don't currently make the a.out stuff at all, so I guess I'm still waiting for Peter (who's been maintaining them up to now) to roll me a compat22 distribution. :) - Jordan > * The a.out libraries are still available, of course, and I have no problems > * running any of my reasonably (~1 year) up to date a.out stuff. > > Will it be a sysinstall option? What would be the recommended way for > ports to verify that they are available? (Check /usr/lib/aout/crt0.o?) > > I'd like to put in some safety belts so we won't see an influx of "why > doesn't my netscape work?" messages when people install 3.1R.... > > Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 18:53:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21153 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:53:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21140 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:53:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA21283; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA18310; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:53:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902040253.SAA18310@vashon.polstra.com> To: mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net Subject: Re: cvsupping releng_3 In-Reply-To: <199902031353.IAA29564@kot.ne.mediaone.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199902031353.IAA29564@kot.ne.mediaone.net>, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > I just realized, that for a long time I'm not seeing cvsup reporting Edit -- > just Delete and Checkout. > > Is that my home-cooked cvsup file (attached), or something wrong on the cvsupd > side? Thanks! Your cvsupfile looks OK to me. (Except, you should try using cvsup2 or cvsup3 or cvsup4 or cvsup5, because cvsup.freebsd.org is always overloaded.) Maybe there just hasn't been much activity on the RELENG_3 branch recently. That's the only explanation I can think of for what you're observing. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 19:02:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22925 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:02:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA22892 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.204] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id AFF4162400F8; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:11:48 +03d00 Message-ID: <36B90CD9.8D526916@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:58:33 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Stable Subject: 3.0 via CTM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is 3.0 Stable CTM file ready? Thanks for all. -- I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ... Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin. +---------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 19:02:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23160 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:02:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA23106 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:02:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.204] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A023B4000FE; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:12:35 +03d00 Message-ID: <36B90D09.F4192D6A@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:59:21 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Stable Subject: 3.0 stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is 3.0 Stable buggy ? Thanks!! -- I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ... Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin. +---------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 19:04:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23698 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:04:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23639; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:04:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from freebsd.cybcon.com (pm3a-4.cybcon.com [205.147.75.133]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA18825; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:04:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14410.918095866@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:03:52 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: wwoods@cybcon.com From: William Woods To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stormy@futuresouth.com, myke@ees.com, (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wont Netscape still work if you do ldconfig -aout (path to netscape libs) in 3.1 ? On 04-Feb-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I guess, yeah. We don't currently make the a.out stuff at all, > so I guess I'm still waiting for Peter (who's been maintaining them > up to now) to roll me a compat22 distribution. :) > > - Jordan > >> * The a.out libraries are still available, of course, and I have no >> problems >> * running any of my reasonably (~1 year) up to date a.out stuff. >> >> Will it be a sysinstall option? What would be the recommended way for >> ports to verify that they are available? (Check /usr/lib/aout/crt0.o?) >> >> I'd like to put in some safety belts so we won't see an influx of "why >> doesn't my netscape work?" messages when people install 3.1R.... >> >> Satoshi > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: William Woods Date: 03-Feb-99 / Time: 19:02:43 FreeBSD 3.0 -Stable ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 19:06:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24089 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:06:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24032 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:06:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.204] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A123B4A00FE; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:16:51 +03d00 Message-ID: <36B90E09.D2E22CED@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:03:37 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0 stable References: <36B90D09.F4192D6A@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sorry about this stupid question, but i heard that 3.0 stable are not so stable as 2.2.8 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > > Is 3.0 Stable buggy ? > > Thanks!! > -- > I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. > You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ... > Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin. > +---------------------------------------------------+ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ... Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin. +---------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 19:13:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25243 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:13:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25225 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:13:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA37721; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:13:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios cc: BSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0 stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:03:37 -0200." <36B90E09.D2E22CED@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:13:53 -0800 Message-ID: <37717.918098033@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > sorry about this stupid question, but i heard that 3.0 stable are not so > stable as 2.2.8 Don't believe everything you hear, or if you hear something and want confirmation of a specific complaint then raise *that* as a question in this forum. Installing a 3.0 snapshot from releng3.freebsd.org has not made any of my systems less stable, I can say that much, and much of what has been touted as "instability" lately has more to do with people upgrading from /usr/src and running over all the bumps of trying to transition an a.out system to an ELF one in developer mode with no seat belts. Those that do binary upgrades from, or (more recommended) clean installations of 3.1 will not suffer from those problems. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 19:36:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29828 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:36:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29809 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:36:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19045; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:36:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19990203224002.057d9b60@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:43:21 -0500 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 3.0 stable Cc: BSD-Stable In-Reply-To: <37717.918098033@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:13 PM 2/3/99 , Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> sorry about this stupid question, but i heard that 3.0 stable are not so >> stable as 2.2.8 .... >not made any of my systems less stable, I can say that much, and much >of what has been touted as "instability" lately has more to do with >people upgrading from /usr/src and running over all the bumps of >trying to transition an a.out system to an ELF one in developer mode >with no seat belts. Those that do binary upgrades from, or (more >recommended) clean installations of 3.1 will not suffer from those >problems. Is there an easy way to find out if there are still some a.out libs or binaries on a machine that has been 'transitioned' ? One of my SMP machines during heavy load is rebooting without any warning. In other words, is there a reccomended audit I could do on the machine to make sure the a.out-elf transition was done properly ? It started out as a 3.0 STABLE box from Dec. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 19:41:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00921 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:41:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp2.jps.net (smtp2.jps.net [209.63.224.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00898 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:41:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from onemo@jps.net) Received: from jps.net (209-63-246-85.smf.jps.net [209.63.246.85]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24608; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:41:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B91611.D7A1B9CD@jps.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:37:53 -0800 From: ONE-MO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David W. Chapman Jr." CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel References: <36B900D0.C06E73BB@houabg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David W. Chapman Jr." wrote: > I notice that when I run my kernel -C to configure it, the next time I > boot it doesn't remember my settings. Does anyone know how to fix this? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Very easy. Create or edit a /kernel.config file with all of your -c settings, mine, for example is as follows: pnp 1 0 enable os irq0 10 port0 0x3e8 pnp 2 0 enable os irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 Then for your /boot/boot.conf file, something like this: load kernel load -t userconfig_script /kernel.config load -t splash_image_data /boot/FreeBSD.bmp load splash_bmp boot This will take away your ability to do a boot -c easily since once the kernel loads these settings, it starts up without the normal timeout. MO! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 20:02:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05184 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:02:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from madcow.borg.com (madcow.borg.com [205.217.206.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05176 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@borg.com) Received: from mail.borg.com (mail.borg.com [205.217.206.192]) by madcow.borg.com (8.9.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29996 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from borg.com (ip86b.borg.com [208.3.181.86]) by mail.borg.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04502 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:02:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B91C9E.5DF9F762@borg.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:05:50 -0500 From: "Mark S. Reichman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't save userconfig... Getting bummed... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cant save userconfig. Its as simple as that. I am using 3.0 stable. I just received an email from someone else having the same problem. Can everyone else save usrconfig in 3.0 stable except for the two of us? I could save it in 2.2.5 through 3.0 release just fine, but it stopped saving right after upgrade to 3.0 stable. This did actually cause me to further refine my kernel though and eliminate everything that I was disabling in the visual userconfig. I dropped almost 400k worth of kernel. So.. I guess it was a good thing. I still (big headache) must manually enter my pnp stuff every time I boot though. As far as I know this doesnt go directly into the kernel config file, or can it? Anyways, how about someone please letting me know if they are able to save their kernel config in 3.0 stable and where does it actually get saved? -- \|/ (@ @) +----------oOO----(_)-----------------+ | Mark S. Reichman | | mark@borg.com | | | | ASCII a stupid question, | | get a stupid ANSI | +----------------------oOO------------+ |__|__| || || ooO Ooo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 20:28:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10241 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:28:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10218 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:28:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA71035; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:29:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Mark S. Reichman" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't save userconfig... Getting bummed... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:05:50 EST." <36B91C9E.5DF9F762@borg.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:29:04 -0800 Message-ID: <71031.918102544@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I cant save userconfig. Its as simple as that. It's broken right now. It's as simple as that. :) > This did actually cause me to further > refine my kernel though and eliminate everything > that I was disabling in the visual userconfig. I dropped > almost 400k worth of kernel. So.. I guess it was a > good thing. I still (big headache) must manually enter my pnp > stuff every time I boot though. As far as I know this > doesnt go directly into the kernel config file, or can it? root@zippy-> cat /boot/loader.rc set root_disk_unit=0 load kernel load -t userconfig_script /boot/kernel.conf boot That 2nd to the last line there is the ticket: root@zippy-> cat /boot/kernel.conf pnp 1 0 enable os irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 3 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 20:34:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11289 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:34:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles240.castles.com [208.214.165.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11282 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:34:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11388; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:30:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902040430.UAA11388@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: ONE-MO cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:37:53 PST." <36B91611.D7A1B9CD@jps.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:30:15 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Very easy. Create or edit a /kernel.config file with all of your -c > settings, mine, for example is as follows: > > pnp 1 0 enable os irq0 10 port0 0x3e8 > pnp 2 0 enable os irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 > > Then for your /boot/boot.conf file, something like this: > > load kernel > load -t userconfig_script /kernel.config > load -t splash_image_data /boot/FreeBSD.bmp > load splash_bmp > boot > > This will take away your ability to do a boot -c easily since once the > kernel loads these settings, it starts up without the normal timeout. Try replacing 'boot' with 'autoboot 5' at the end. Then you can break in and use 'boot -c' to get Userconfig, or 'unload' and start again, or whatever. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 20:45:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12764 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:45:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12721 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:45:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA85109; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:44:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Mike Smith cc: ONE-MO , "David W. Chapman Jr." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:30:15 PST." <199902040430.UAA11388@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:44:45 -0800 Message-ID: <85091.918103485@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Try replacing 'boot' with 'autoboot 5' at the end. Then you can break > in and use 'boot -c' to get Userconfig, or 'unload' and start again, or > whatever. The things you learn sometimes! :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 21:02:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14857 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:02:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (enaila.nidlink.com [216.18.128.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14851 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:02:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from nidlink.com (pm3d4-19.nidlink.com [216.18.131.170]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA24727 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:02:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B92A57.B1C8D7D4@nidlink.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:04:23 -0800 From: Shawn Workman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IDE Cdrom problems References: <4.1.19990203224002.057d9b60@granite.sentex.ca> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C3525D6B865F3D7D2A7120E0" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C3525D6B865F3D7D2A7120E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I try to mount my cdrom in 3.0-Stable I get the following errors: hal# mount /cdrom cd9660: Input/output error hal# Feb 3 20:55:29 hal /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed Feb 3 20:55:29 hal /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed Any ideas? I checked my kernel config and it is in there and it is also in my /etc/fstab file. This only happens when the drive is empty. It never used to do this.. It works great when the drive is loaded though.. --------------C3525D6B865F3D7D2A7120E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="typescript" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="typescript" Script started on Wed Feb 3 20:55:25 1999 hal# mount /cdrom cd9660: Input/output error hal# hal# exit hal# exit Script done on Wed Feb 3 20:55:34 1999 --------------C3525D6B865F3D7D2A7120E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 21:06:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15336 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:06:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles240.castles.com [208.214.165.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15329 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:06:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11610; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:02:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902040502.VAA11610@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Shawn Workman cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:04:23 PST." <36B92A57.B1C8D7D4@nidlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:02:33 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > When I try to mount my cdrom in 3.0-Stable I get the following errors: > > hal# mount /cdrom > cd9660: Input/output error > hal# Feb 3 20:55:29 hal /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed > Feb 3 20:55:29 hal /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed > > Any ideas? > > I checked my kernel config and it is in there and it is also in my > /etc/fstab file. > > This only happens when the drive is empty. It never used to do this.. > > It works great when the drive is loaded though.. Er, dare I ask, why would you care? If the drive's empty, there's nothing to mount, right? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 21:10:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15927 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA15911 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:10:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Message-Id: <199902040510.VAA15911@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 4390 invoked from network); 4 Feb 1999 05:10:28 -0000 Received: from blinky.palomine.net (HELO ?192.168.10.10?) (@206.84.62.38) by shemp.palomine.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 1999 05:10:27 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:10:28 -0500 Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems From: "Chris Johnson" To: Shawn Workman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > When I try to mount my cdrom in 3.0-Stable I get the following errors: > > > hal# mount /cdrom > cd9660: Input/output error > hal# Feb 3 20:55:29 hal /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed > Feb 3 20:55:29 hal /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed > > Any ideas? > > I checked my kernel config and it is in there and it is also in my > /etc/fstab file. > > This only happens when the drive is empty. It never used to do this.. > > It works great when the drive is loaded though.. You're saying that you can't mount a CD when there's no CD in the drive? Do you expect to be able to? Even if it made sense to do so, what would you expect to gain by mounting a non-existent disk? Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 21:11:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16220 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:11:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16204 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:11:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA20942; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:11:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990204001120.A20924@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:11:20 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Shawn Workman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <4.1.19990203224002.057d9b60@granite.sentex.ca> <36B92A57.B1C8D7D4@nidlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <36B92A57.B1C8D7D4@nidlink.com>; from Shawn Workman on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 09:04:23PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 09:04:23PM -0800, Shawn Workman wrote: > When I try to mount my cdrom in 3.0-Stable I get the following errors: > > > hal# mount /cdrom > cd9660: Input/output error > hal# Feb 3 20:55:29 hal /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed > Feb 3 20:55:29 hal /kernel: acd0: read_toc failed > > Any ideas? > > I checked my kernel config and it is in there and it is also in my > /etc/fstab file. > > This only happens when the drive is empty. It never used to do this.. I hate to say this, but it's _supposed_ to do that -- you can't very well read a disk that isn't there. > It works great when the drive is loaded though.. All right then, you have nothing to worry about. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 21:17:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16850 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:17:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (enaila.nidlink.com [216.18.128.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16845 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from nidlink.com (pm3d4-19.nidlink.com [216.18.131.170]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA27899; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:17:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B92DFB.E1FA16D8@nidlink.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:19:56 -0800 From: Shawn Workman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lcremean@tidalwave.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems References: <4.1.19990203224002.057d9b60@granite.sentex.ca> <36B92A57.B1C8D7D4@nidlink.com> <19990204001120.A20924@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG so it must have been an oversight in 2.2.8S that did not give an error message? I know I cannot mount an empty drive, but when I forget that the drive is empty on my 2.2.8S box it never tells me this.. I am just glad it works.... Lee Cremeans wrote: > > I hate to say this, but it's _supposed_ to do that -- you can't very well > read a disk that isn't there. > > > It works great when the drive is loaded though.. > > All right then, you have nothing to worry about. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 23:27:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29790 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:27:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29778 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:27:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-112.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.112]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02286; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id XAA26239; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:27:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:27:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902040727.XAA26239@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com CC: myke@ees.com, stormy@futuresouth.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <14410.918095866@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * I guess, yeah. We don't currently make the a.out stuff at all, * so I guess I'm still waiting for Peter (who's been maintaining them * up to now) to roll me a compat22 distribution. :) Hmm. I assume that's going into /usr/lib/aout, right? What about XFree86 a.out libs? netscape needs those too. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 3 23:34:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00842 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news2.du.gtn.com (news2.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00747 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:33:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by news2.du.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA08978; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:33:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA77099; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:33:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19990204083333.36857@cicely.de> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:33:33 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Matthew Dillon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Panic with 3.0-Stable SNAP 1999-02-02 References: <19990203192504.35970@cicely.de> <199902040017.QAA76195@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199902040017.QAA76195@apollo.backplane.com>; from Matthew Dillon on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:17:18PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:17:18PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: Thank you for your quick reply. > Hmmm. If you can, please go to frame 6 and print out '*z'. Also > print out *kernel_map: > > frame 6 > print *z > print *kernel_map bash-2.02# gdb -k kernel.gdb vmcore.6 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 2740224 initial pcb at 225fa0 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01ea7a7 stack pointer = 0x10:0xff5e6bcc frame pointer = 0x10:0xff5e6bf0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 208 (squid) interrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 194 giving up dumping to dev 30401, offset 2023424 dump 512 511 510 509 508 507 506 505 504 503 502 501 500 499 498 497 496 495 494 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 476 475 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 457 456 455 454 453 452 451 450 449 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 439 438 437 436 435 434 433 432 431 430 429 428 427 426 425 424 423 422 421 420 419 418 417 416 415 414 413 412 411 410 409 408 407 406 405 404 403 402 401 400 399 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 26! ! 6 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) frame 6 #6 0xf015e6d8 in getnewvnode (tag=VT_UFS, mp=0xf2734e00, vops=0xf2667300, vpp=0xff5e6c7c) at ../../vm/vm_zone.h:85 85 return _zget(z); (kgdb) print *z Cannot access memory at address 0x0. (kgdb) print *kernel_map $1 = {lock = {lk_interlock = {lock_data = -266052716}, lk_flags = 16777216, lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0, lk_exclusivecount = 0, lk_prio = 4, lk_wmesg = 0xf0207601 "thrd_sleep", lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder = -1}, header = {prev = 0xf024255c, next = 0xf0243524, start = 4026265600, end = 4290772992, avail_ssize = 0, object = {vm_object = 0x0, share_map = 0x0, sub_map = 0x0}, offset = 0x0000000000000000, eflags = 0 '\000', protection = 0 '\000', max_protection = 0 '\000', inheritance = 0 '\000', wired_count = 0}, nentries = 101, size = 264495104, is_main_map = 1 '\001', system_map = 1 '\001', hint = 0xf0243434, timestamp = 4475, first_free = 0xf024255c, pmap = 0xf0253648} > > I'm not sure why it isn't listing the _zget() in a frame. It's hard > to tell where the bzero is being called from. > > It appears to be trying to bzero() NULL, which means either > kmem_malloc() or kmem_alloc() returned NULL. This in turn can only > happen in a few specific instances, such as if you run out of KVM. > Yes I have got a dump showing me that allocation to kernel_map failed. Thats why I CCed to you because I know your are very responsible about the VM system Unlukily I don't have this special dump. I forgot to mention that I've raised some values in sys/vm/vm_map.h beacuse of the first dumps: /* XXX: number of kernel maps and entries to statically allocate */ #define MAX_KMAP 100 #define MAX_KMAPENT 1280 #define MAX_MAPENT 1280 original: /* XXX: number of kernel maps and entries to statically allocate */ #define MAX_KMAP 10 #define MAX_KMAPENT 128 #define MAX_MAPENT 128 Interestingly I got one crash with top showing still over 300Meg on free pool - the system was not up for long... - that was without sys/vm/vm_map.h modification. > Please also do this: > > cd /var/crash > vmstat -m -N kernel.gdb -M vmcore.6 bash-2.02# vmstat -m -N kernel.gdb -M vmcore.6 Memory statistics by bucket size Size In Use Free Requests HighWater Couldfree 16 818 462 189520 1280 0 32 3615 97 21942 640 0 64 3046 26 188525 320 0 128 418 30 18495 160 0 256 18451 13 20293 80 0 512 230 2 4473 40 0 1K 40 56 15157 20 70 2K 31 5 206540 10 3 4K 20 0 102 5 0 8K 8 0 8 5 0 16K 4 0 4 5 0 32K 1 0 1 5 0 128K 2 0 2 5 0 256K 2 0 2 5 0 512K 1 0 1 5 0 Memory usage type by bucket size Size Type(s) 16 kld, devbuf, temp, proc, sysctl, soname, pcb, vnodes, ether_multi, routetbl 32 kld, sigio, devbuf, temp, pgrp, subproc, sysctl, pcb, cluster_save buffer, vnodes, ifaddr, ether_multi, routetbl, in_multi 64 file, lockf, namecache, devbuf, temp, session, pcb, cluster_save buffer, vnodes, ifaddr, routetbl, MFS node 128 kld, timecounter, file desc, zombie, namecache, devbuf, cred, ttys, soname, vnodes, ifaddr, routetbl, ZONE 256 file desc, namecache, devbuf, temp, subproc, vnodes, routetbl, NFS srvsock, NFS daemon, FFS node, MFS node 512 file desc, devbuf, temp, ioctlops, BIO buffer, mount, UFS mount 1K file desc, devbuf, temp, BIO buffer, NQNFS Lease 2K file desc, devbuf, temp, proc, ttys, pcb, BIO buffer, UFS mount 4K devbuf, temp, UFS mount 8K proc, UFS mount 16K devbuf, mbuf 32K devbuf 128K NFS hash, UFS ihash 256K namecache, temp 512K VM pgdata Memory statistics by type Type Kern Type InUse MemUse HighUse Limit Requests Limit Limit Size(s) kld 4 1K 1K 40960K 5 0 0 16,32,128 timecounter 10 2K 2K 40960K 10 0 0 128 file desc 75 31K 35K 40960K 8803 0 0 128,256,512,1K,2K file 395 25K 29K 40960K 169149 0 0 64 sigio 1 1K 1K 40960K 2 0 0 32 zombie 0 0K 1K 40960K 8695 0 0 128 lockf 1 1K 1K 40960K 93 0 0 64 namecache 2602 420K 420K 40960K 10334 0 0 64,128,256,256K devbuf 782 302K 302K 40960K 1769 0 0 16,32,64,128,256,512,1K,2K,4K,16K,32K temp 23 138K 168K 40960K 234285 0 0 16,32,64,256,512,1K,2K,4K,256K pgrp 32 1K 2K 40960K 56 0 0 32 session 25 2K 2K 40960K 33 0 0 64 proc 7 19K 19K 40960K 8 0 0 16,2K,8K subproc 135 7K 7K 40960K 17534 0 0 32,256 cred 31 4K 5K 40960K 66 0 0 128 sysctl 0 0K 1K 40960K 13 0 0 16,32 ioctlops 0 0K 1K 40960K 10 0 0 512 ttys 251 36K 36K 40960K 489 0 0 128,2K soname 1 1K 1K 40960K 148515 0 0 16,128 pcb 573 14K 20K 40960K 40347 0 0 16,32,64,2K BIO buffer 19 20K 78K 40960K 399 0 0 512,1K,2K cluster_save buffer 0 0K 1K 40960K 211 0 0 32,64 mount 11 6K 6K 40960K 11 0 0 512 vnodes 43 6K 7K 40960K 996 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 ifaddr 11 1K 1K 40960K 11 0 0 32,64,128 ether_multi 7 1K 1K 40960K 7 0 0 16,32 routetbl 6359 894K 894K 40960K 6369 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 in_multi 2 1K 1K 40960K 2 0 0 32 NFS srvsock 2 1K 1K 40960K 2 0 0 256 NFS daemon 1 1K 1K 40960K 1 0 0 256 NQNFS Lease 1 1K 1K 40960K 1 0 0 1K NFS hash 1 128K 128K 40960K 1 0 0 128K FFS node 15230 3808K 3808K 40960K 16777 0 0 256 MFS node 1 1K 1K 40960K 10 0 0 64,256 UFS ihash 1 128K 128K 40960K 1 0 0 128K UFS mount 30 83K 83K 40960K 30 0 0 512,2K,4K,8K VM pgdata 1 544K 544K 40960K 1 0 0 512K ZONE 18 3K 3K 40960K 18 0 0 128 mbuf 1 12K 12K 40960K 1 0 0 16K Memory Totals: In Use Free Requests 6627K 86K 665065 > > To see if your KVM has filled up. > > -Matt > > Matthew Dillon > > > : > :The Errors are are all resultion with the same trigger. > :Running squid and doing several lookups with wget. > :I have tried a current SNAP 1999-01-12 > :and tried the Stable-SNAP 1999-02-02 with the same problems. > :... > :#4 0xf01eb372 in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -10616816, tf_edi = 0, > : tf_esi = -226674688, tf_ebp = -10589200, tf_isp = -10589256, > : tf_ebx = 20480, tf_edx = 5, tf_ecx = 5120, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, > : tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -266426457, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, > : tf_esp = -250478592, tf_ss = -266515610}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437 > :#5 0xf01ea7a7 in generic_bzero () > :#6 0xf015e6d8 in getnewvnode (tag=VT_UFS, mp=0xf2734e00, vops=0xf2667300, > : vpp=0xff5e6c7c) at ../../vm/vm_zone.h:85 > :#7 0xf01bdb4d in ffs_vget (mp=0xf2734e00, ino=222414, vpp=0xff5e6ccc) > : at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1082 > :#8 0xf01b7ee1 in ffs_valloc (pvp=0xffbbc440, mode=33188, cred=0xf2805300, > : vpp=0xff5e6ccc) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:595 > :#9 0xf01c5901 in ufs_makeinode (mode=33188, dvp=0xffbbc440, vpp=0xff5e6f10, > : cnp=0xff5e6f24) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2082 > :#10 0xf01c316a in ufs_create (ap=0xff5e6e2c) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:179 > :#11 0xf01c5ad5 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xff5e6e2c) > : at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2294 > :#12 0xf0164ddb in vn_open (ndp=0xff5e6f00, fmode=1550, cmode=420) > : at vnode_if.h:83 > :#13 0xf0161b8d in open (p=0xff5d2780, uap=0xff5e6f94) > : at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:935 > :... > :-- > : B.Walter > -- B.Walter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 00:03:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04492 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04487; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:03:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990204080324.ZDOM9535.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:03:24 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990204000315.00a3f4b0@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:03:15 -0800 To: "Thad Anderson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trying to Download 3.0 Stable Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990203224254.3979.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:42 PM 2/3/99 PST, Thad Anderson wrote: >I am trying to download the 3.0 stable, but it doesnt seem to have a >complete directory structure. could someone please help me. You could look at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook269.html, but all I have to say is good luck. I can't figure out how to upgrade to -STABLE either, which is why I'm writing, actually... Since my FreeBSD machine isn't networked, my only option is CTM, but I really can't figure it out. Is there a way to just install -STABLE from the start (as opposed to a -RELEASE)? At this point, redoing an installation would be _MUCH_ easier than trying to figure out CTM. Thanks! -Charon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 00:15:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06053 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from walter.doc.ic.ac.uk (walter.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06047 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:15:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from md@doc.ic.ac.uk) Received: from dialup06.doc.ic.ac.uk ([146.169.43.69] helo=doc.ic.ac.uk ident=md) by walter.doc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.890 #1) id 108Jwm-0005JJ-00; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:15:36 +0000 Message-ID: <36B956B7.4299FC0@doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:13:43 +0000 From: Mark Dawson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.1 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ONE-MO CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch References: <36B8DA72.F58BB5D1@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ONE-MO, > I finally get the thing probed correctly - I specified port 0x0 in my > kernel configuration which allows it to detect the correct value upon > boot. It (the probe) detects my 8Gb logical drive and all would seem > well; until I try to access the drive in any manner (at least those I've > tried). The fact that you had to do this indicates to me that the EISA probe code in the driver has not migrated happily to 3.0 from 2.2.x. Perhaps someone who is familiar with changes in this area can take a quick look and advise you (and me) if there are obvious problems with it. I'm afraid I haven't migrated my systems to 3.0 and I no longer have any EISA cards to experiment with. Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 00:52:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10630 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:52:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10437 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpxcs.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.170]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA09626; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:44:52 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36B8DF23.74D12FA7@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:43:31 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stormy Henderson CC: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem References: <001f01be4f9c$88a5c3d0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> <19990203121741.C80461@rain.futuresouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stormy Henderson wrote: > > A happy camper (Thomas T. Veldhouse, veldy@visi.com) once wrote... > > I just installed a fresh 3.0-19990202-SNAP on one of my machines. I > > then proceeded to build X with elf and a.out libraries.I installed > > netscape and it wouldn't start because it could not find ld.so. I could > > not find ld.so [...] However, I have to wonder if there is a problem > > with the Release process that is missing this file/link. > > a.out will be gone from FreeBSD as of 3.1, and is disabled by default in > 3.0. This would be fine except for the 3rd party a.out binaries...like > Netscape. One hopes Netscape will switch to ELF before a.out is gone > (hah). > Uh? Just builded 3.0 (sources CVSup'ed 1999/02/03): a.out binaries can be builded (setting OBJFORMAT=aout) and executed without trouble. I think that a.out support will stay with us for a long, long time (perhaps under /compat/bsd22). What will be gone soon is the possibility to _build_ an a.out system using "make world". -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 02:37:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22065 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21981 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:36:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA98739; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:36:25 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (IDENT:hwO+BhAHdqeUWPqZxvJ3vm/uINYUYw7A@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA19942; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:36:19 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Message-Id: <199902041036.MAA19942@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios cc: BSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0 via CTM In-Reply-To: Your message of " Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:58:33 -0200." <36B90CD9.8D526916@netshell.vicosa.com.br> References: <36B90CD9.8D526916@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:36:17 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > Is 3.0 Stable CTM file ready? Yes. Please join FreeBSD-announce, and look for the announcement that got sent out a couple of days ago. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 03:10:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25624 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:10:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from leo.inet.it (leo.inet.it [194.185.132.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25617 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:10:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from max@leo.inet.it) Received: by leo.inet.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A29621CE; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:10:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:10:37 +0100 From: Massimo Fusaro To: Benjamin Gavin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B Oddities Message-ID: <19990204121037.C6897@leo.inet.it> References: <4.1.19990203100744.00b33d50@mail.supranet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990203100744.00b33d50@mail.supranet.net>; from Benjamin Gavin on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 10:07:59AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG something like this happened to me when the board was configured with the wrong IRQ i.e.: board irq=9, Kernel irq=10 -- -max On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 10:07:59AM -0600, Benjamin Gavin wrote: > Hi, > Just to let everyone know... I have replaced the 3c509 with an Intel > Pro/100. The crd came up fine, and I am not having any network trouble > with it. It must be a problem with the 3C509s... This can't be too good, > since these cards are _very_ widely used, both in our organization, and I > am sure in many others... > > Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 03:54:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01233 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from doriath.saers.com ([194.248.7.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01192 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Received: from niklas (karon.elanders.no [194.143.3.10]) by doriath.saers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23425 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:54:24 GMT (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990204130133.019e83a0@pop.saers.com> X-Sender: berenmls@pop.saers.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:01:33 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Niklas Saers Subject: dump -> multiple fs'es and computers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. We've got a DLT-tapedrive and four FreeBSD-boxes which we want to take backup of. The DLT-tape can store 15 GB uncompressed, and our disks are 8+4+2+1=15 Gb in total, filled up about a third, so there should be more than enough. Now I wish to dump them all to the streamer and make dayly incrementals. BUT, dump seems only to be able to handle one filesystem pr tape. So I'm quite sure I've misunderstood something here. What programs should I use to dump all my file systems on my four computers over to the DLT-drive and run incrementals on them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 04:15:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05774 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:15:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lsd.rise.ru (lsd.rise.ru [193.232.62.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05766 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:15:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pvi@lsd.rise.ru) Received: (from pvi@localhost) by lsd.rise.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10004 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:14:46 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from pvi) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:14:46 +0300 From: Vadim Pasynkov To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Message-ID: <19990204151446.C9719@lsd.rise.ru> Reply-To: pvi@rise.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lsd.rise.ru 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE Organization: Rise Communication Ltd. Phone: +7(095)3316733 Fax: +7(095)3316733 ICQ: 17443131 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe -- Pasynkov Vadim I. , Joint-Stock Bank "INKOMBANK" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 04:43:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08896 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:43:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chmls11.mediaone.net (chmls11.mediaone.net [24.128.1.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08886; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from visi.com (h-182-122.mn.mediaone.net [209.32.182.122]) by chmls11.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA13906; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:43:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36B9963A.69179345@visi.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 06:44:42 -0600 From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satoshi Asami CC: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, myke@ees.com, stormy@futuresouth.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem References: <199902040727.XAA26239@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And equally as important, so does the JDK! Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com Satoshi Asami wrote: > > Hmm. I assume that's going into /usr/lib/aout, right? > > What about XFree86 a.out libs? netscape needs those too. > > Satoshi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 05:04:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11183 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:04:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11176; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA87118; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:05:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: myke@ees.com, stormy@futuresouth.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:27:08 PST." <199902040727.XAA26239@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 05:05:31 -0800 Message-ID: <87115.918133531@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What about XFree86 a.out libs? netscape needs those too. What about them? Those are bundled with XFree86, last I checked, and not of any immediate concern. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 05:24:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13963 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13449 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:21:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id PAA09971 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:20:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:20:30 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [FYI] net.inet.ip.portrange change in 3.0 Message-ID: <19990204152030.B5137@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! If you are running firewall that is bound to default local port range (like me), note that it has been changed in FreeBSD 3.0 from 40000-44999 to 49152-65535 according to IANA assignments. Here is a log of this change: } # cvs -q log -N -r1.31 /usr/src/sys/netinet/in.h } } RCS file: /usr/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/netinet/in.h,v } Working file: /usr/src/sys/netinet/in.h } head: 1.38 } branch: } locks: strict } access list: } keyword substitution: kv } total revisions: 46; selected revisions: 1 } description: } ---------------------------- } revision 1.31 } date: 1998/04/19 17:22:27; author: phk; state: Exp; lines: +14 -3 } According to: } } ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/port-numbers } } port numbers are divided into three ranges: } } 0 - 1023 Well Known Ports } 1024 - 49151 Registered Ports } 49152 - 65535 Dynamic and/or Private Ports } } This patch changes the "local port range" from 40000-44999 } to the range shown above (plus fix the comment in in_pcb.c). } } WARNING: This may have an impact on firewall configurations! } } PR: 5402 } Reviewed by: phk } Submitted by: Stephen J. Roznowski } ============================================================================= Best regards, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 05:25:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14067 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14061 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:25:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-112.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.112]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA02628; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id FAA27777; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:25:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:25:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902041325.FAA27777@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com CC: myke@ees.com, stormy@futuresouth.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <87115.918133531@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * > What about XFree86 a.out libs? netscape needs those too. * * What about them? Those are bundled with XFree86, last I checked, and * not of any immediate concern. Ok. I just wanted to make sure. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 05:29:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14442 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:29:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14436; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:29:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA57226; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:29:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:29:27 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Satoshi Asami , myke@ees.com, stormy@futuresouth.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-Reply-To: <87115.918133531@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will they still be buildable? (I use the XFree86 port, personally. I think it's because I'm masochistic.) I think that there's some confusion surrounding this. I think that most people think they're going to wake up and their old binaries are going to stop working. What I'm wondering is if 3.1 will do the following: 1. Not have any a.out libraries or binaries, only ELF, for 3.x-level stuff. (Generally a Good Thing, unless someone went on a building spree for 3.0-RELEASE, then died or something. Doubt this is much of anything to worry about though.) :) 2. Have compat1x and compat2[012], just like every other version of FreeBSD, able to run a.out binaries from those old releases. 3. Be able to build any a.out libraries when needed for compatibility's sake. (i.e. XFree86's old libs). On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: : > What about XFree86 a.out libs? netscape needs those too. : : What about them? Those are bundled with XFree86, last I checked, and : not of any immediate concern. - Matt Behrens Network Administrator, zigg.com Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 05:37:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15322 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:37:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15314; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA87398; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:38:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Matt Behrens cc: Satoshi Asami , myke@ees.com, stormy@futuresouth.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:29:27 EST." Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 05:38:03 -0800 Message-ID: <87394.918135483@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > are going to stop working. What I'm wondering is if 3.1 will do > the following: > 2. Have compat1x and compat2[012], just like every other version > of FreeBSD, able to run a.out binaries from those old releases. Yes. > 3. Be able to build any a.out libraries when needed for compatibility's > sake. (i.e. XFree86's old libs). Yes. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 05:38:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15403 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:38:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aire.open.ac.uk (aire.open.ac.uk [137.108.40.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15352 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:37:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from mallard.open.ac.uk ([137.108.40.50] helo=mallard) by aire.open.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 108OyS-0002l4-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:37:40 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990204133314.00b5fe10@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:37:40 +0000 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Zanker Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-Reply-To: <87115.918133531@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 13:05 04/02/99 , Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >What about them? Those are bundled with XFree86, last I checked, and >not of any immediate concern. As far as I can tell, only ELF libs are included with the FreeBSD-3.0 XFree86 distribution. I have both aout and ELF libs but this is as a result of installing the FreeBSD 2.2.x aout version, doing an aout-to-elf conversion, then installing the 3.0 ELF version. Mike -- Mike Zanker | Email: A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk Network and Computer Services Group | Tel : +44 1908 652726 The Open University | Fax : +44 1908 652193 Milton Keynes, UK | PGP public key available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 05:59:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18346 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:59:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iron.singnet.com.sg (iron.singnet.com.sg [165.21.7.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18341 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:59:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chamaras@singnet.com.sg) Received: from singnet.com.sg (qtns02246.singnet.com.sg [165.21.165.116]) by iron.singnet.com.sg (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29465 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:59:05 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <36B9A7B0.40268973@singnet.com.sg> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:59:12 +0800 From: Chamara Somaratne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------ACAC419438E828FB955BB166" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ACAC419438E828FB955BB166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all --------------ACAC419438E828FB955BB166 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="chamaras.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Chamara Somaratne Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="chamaras.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Somaratne;Chamara tel;cell:+65-97359450 tel;fax:+65-7595562 tel;home:+65-7595562 tel;work:+65-3604620 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.singnet.com.sg/~chamaras/ org:Manufacturing Systems;Chartered Semiconductor Mfg. Ltd. version:2.1 email;internet:chamaras@singnet.com.sg title:CIM Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;60 Woodlands Industrial Park D,=0D=0AStreet 2,=0D=0ASingapore 738406;;;; x-mozilla-cpt:;-1 fn:KC end:vcard --------------ACAC419438E828FB955BB166-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 06:03:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18952 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:03:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aire.open.ac.uk (aire.open.ac.uk [137.108.40.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18947 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from mallard.open.ac.uk ([137.108.40.50] helo=mallard) by aire.open.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 108PNi-0002ng-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:03:46 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990204140240.00c554f0@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:03:45 +0000 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Zanker Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990204133314.00b5fe10@aire.open.ac.uk> References: <87115.918133531@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 13:37 04/02/99 , Mike Zanker wrote: >As far as I can tell, only ELF libs are included with the FreeBSD-3.0 >XFree86 distribution. Ignore me, I'm talking nonsense - the aout libs *are* included. Sorry, Mike -- Mike Zanker | Email: A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk Network and Computer Services Group | Tel : +44 1908 652726 The Open University | Fax : +44 1908 652193 Milton Keynes, UK | PGP public key available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 06:25:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21939 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:25:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21934 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:25:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id JAA07852; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA18289; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:25:23 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem References: <87115.918133531@zippy.cdrom.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 04 Feb 1999 09:25:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of Thu, 04 Feb 1999 05:05:31 -0800 Message-Id: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > What about XFree86 a.out libs? netscape needs those too. > > What about them? Those are bundled with XFree86, last I checked, and > not of any immediate concern. Okay, then: what's the recommended way of upgrading X after an upgrade from 2.2-STABLE to 3.x-STABLE? I've upgraded X with binaries several times before, but I can't seem to find the new ones at the moment. Upgrading from the ports system should be easy, but that would involve getting and compiling *all* of the servers, which seems kind of inefficient. Also, what about registering the port for the new version of X? Last time around, I just faked up a /var/db/pkg entry for XFree86-3.3.2. Should I ignore it and leave it in place? Try to pkg_delete it? Just FORCE_PKG_REGISTER? Be well. Lowell Gilbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 06:27:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22167 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:27:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22161 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:27:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA91388; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:28:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-reply-to: Your message of "04 Feb 1999 09:25:23 EST." Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 06:28:28 -0800 Message-ID: <91385.918138508@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Okay, then: what's the recommended way of upgrading X after an upgrade > from 2.2-STABLE to 3.x-STABLE? I've upgraded X with binaries several Unpack the parts you're interested in into /usr/X11R6. Then extract /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/pkgreg.tar.gz into / and you'll have a faked registration. Sysinstall does this automatically itself, but if you're upgrading by hand then you have to do this by hand as well. :| - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 06:29:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22284 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:29:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from servo.ccr.org (servo.ccr.org [198.3.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22279 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:29:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mo@servo.ccr.org) Received: from servo.ccr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by servo.ccr.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA14576; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:29:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mo@servo.ccr.org) Message-Id: <199902041429.JAA14576@servo.ccr.org> To: "Chris Johnson" cc: Shawn Workman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:10:28 EST." <199902040510.VAA15911@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 09:29:16 -0500 From: "Mike O'Dell" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i cannot believe how crass the responses have been to the simple CDrom question - "it didn't do this before, nothing explained it would be any different, so is this a problem or not?" and the responses have been incredibly rude. and yes, one might want to put something in /etc/fstab so that if it's there, it's mounted, otherwise it just does nothing. you need to learn to be nice to your customers. when you labelled it STABLE you set people's expectations and how when you fail to meet them you blame the user?? I thought this wasn't supposed to be Windows. -mo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 06:39:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23187 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:39:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com ([206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23182 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:39:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04267; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:38:56 -0500 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma004260; Thu, 4 Feb 99 09:38:19 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28010; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:38:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) id JAA44908; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:38:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:38:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902041438.JAA44908@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: Mark Dawson Cc: ONE-MO , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch In-Reply-To: <36B956B7.4299FC0@doc.ic.ac.uk> References: <36B8DA72.F58BB5D1@jps.net> <36B956B7.4299FC0@doc.ic.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MD" == Mark Dawson writes: MD> ONE-MO, >> I finally get the thing probed correctly - I specified port 0x0 in my You had to specify port 0x0 ??? What is the real port that it is at? also, what are the exact probe lines from dmesg? Mine wouldn't work correctly unless I specified the exact port. You should also be able to look at the EISA config on your machine BIOS (or using the floopy that must have come along with any EISA machine), and find out what resources are being used by each device. MD> The fact that you had to do this indicates to me that the EISA probe MD> code in the driver has not migrated happily to 3.0 from 2.2.x. Perhaps MD> someone who is familiar with changes in this area can take a quick look MD> and advise you (and me) if there are obvious problems with it. That's probably true. MD> I'm afraid I haven't migrated my systems to 3.0 and I no longer have any MD> EISA cards to experiment with. If anyone has the knowhow, but not the hardware, I'll be willing to work on the driver under tutelage (so to speak). My machine at home is not critical to me right now, so messing with the ida driver is ok. MD> Mark Viren -- Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/ ====== FreeBSD: It's free, it's fast, it's fun. ====== "3 syncs represent the trinity - init, the child and the eternal zombie process." -- Jordan Hubbard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 06:49:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24252 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:49:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com (planetx-2-68.mdm.mkt.execpc.com [169.207.119.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24247 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:49:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155084585D; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:49:26 -0600 (CST) To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-reply-to: Your message of "04 Feb 1999 09:25:23 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:49:26 -0600 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <19990204144927.155084585D@pobox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Lowell Gilbert wrote: } "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: } } > > What about XFree86 a.out libs? netscape needs those too. } > } > What about them? Those are bundled with XFree86, last I checked, and } > not of any immediate concern. } } Okay, then: what's the recommended way of upgrading X after an upgrade } from 2.2-STABLE to 3.x-STABLE? I've upgraded X with binaries several } times before, but I can't seem to find the new ones at the moment. } Upgrading from the ports system should be easy, but that would involve } getting and compiling *all* of the servers, which seems kind of } inefficient. You don't build all the servers; the configure script is interactive and asks you which servers to build and install. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 06:54:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25146 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:54:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from main.avias.com (avias-gw.corbina.net [195.14.40.4] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25128 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:54:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Received: from 195.14.38.65 (juriy.avias.com [195.14.38.66]) by main.avias.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA19137 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:54:28 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:57:43 +0300 From: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.19) S/N D508402B Reply-To: Juriy Goloveshkin Organization: =?koi8-r?B?7unpIPzLz87PzcnLyQ==?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19748.990204@avias.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: rc.network->rc.firewall->natd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, if "natd_enable" is set to "YES" in rc.conf then rc.firewall loads the following rule: if [ "X${natd_enable}" = X"YES" -a "X${natd_interface}" != X"" ]; then $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via ${natd_interface} fi but after rc.firewall and before natd some programs in rc.network require normally working network... Best regards, Juriy mailto:j@avias.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 06:55:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25314 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:55:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25298 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:55:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id IAA20940; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:55:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id IAA20936; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:55:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00d901be504e$696f0ff0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Lowell Gilbert" , "Jon Hamilton" Cc: Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:55:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It works very well and takes up a minimal amount of extra space. Only a few megabytes. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com -----Original Message----- From: Jon Hamilton To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 8:49 AM Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem > >You don't build all the servers; the configure script is interactive >and asks you which servers to build and install. > >-- > Jon Hamilton > hamilton@pobox.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 08:50:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13872 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hades.mminternet.com (hades2.mminternet.com [207.175.72.13] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13867 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:50:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boing@boing.com) Received: from bsd.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hades.mminternet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA30003 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:25:52 -0800 Received: from hanoiang (campus254.toyota.com [205.180.183.254]) by bsd.boing.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id IAA65221 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:50:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boing@boing.com) Message-ID: <001a01be505e$2c4a0930$48ff020a@hanoiang.tms.toyota.com> From: "Geff Hanoian" To: Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:48:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Just a note for everyone when partitioning your HD for FreeBSD, if you use >the entire disk "dedicated" instead of using a DOS/other compatible master >boot record, some BIOS' won't load the FreeBSD MBR and will die. (And, I >surmise, some BIOS' may think it's a virus.) FYI, this is in the FAQ (somewhere). HP is one of the "offending" vendors. Apparently the do some sort of "checking" to make sure there are dos partitions on the disk. If dos partitions do not exist the HP vectra's print, "Read Error." User friendliness at it's best. Geff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 09:05:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17325 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:05:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17293 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:05:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 108SDG-0006sx-00; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:05:10 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:05:09 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Niklas Saers cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump -> multiple fs'es and computers In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19990204130133.019e83a0@pop.saers.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Niklas Saers wrote: (There is QUESTION, and belongs on freebsd-questions) > than enough. Now I wish to dump them all to the streamer and make dayly > incrementals. BUT, dump seems only to be able to handle one filesystem pr > tape. So I'm quite sure I've misunderstood something here. What programs dump does not care, but you must use the no-rewind tape device (nrstX), otherwise the tape will automatically rewind after close. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 10:05:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25604 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:05:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from B1FF.nas.nasa.gov (b1ff.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.34.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25596 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:05:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rone@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov) Received: (from rone@localhost) by B1FF.nas.nasa.gov (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA43522; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:04:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rone) From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199902041804.KAA43522@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems In-Reply-To: <199902041429.JAA14576@servo.ccr.org> from "Mike O'Dell" at "Feb 4, 1999 9:29:16 am" To: mo@servo.ccr.org (Mike O'Dell) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:04:50 -0800 (PST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike O'Dell writes: you need to learn to be nice to your customers. This is not customer service. This is the freebsd-stable mailing list. when you labelled it STABLE you set people's expectations and how when you fail to meet them you blame the user?? Funny, when i saw the "stable" label i thought it was going to be an operating systems with horsies and stuff. My expectations sure have not been met. I demand a refund. rone -- Ron Echeverri Numerical Aerospace Simulation Facility DSS/Usenet Administrator NASA Ames Research Center Sterling Software Mountain View, CA x42771 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 10:08:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25998 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from urca.domain.com.br ([200.240.26.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25941 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfassad@domain.com.br) Received: from domain.com.br (200.240.26.240) by urca.domain.com.br (NPlex 2.0.123) for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:07:17 -0200 Message-ID: <36B9E1E8.9C4BE72@domain.com.br> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:07:37 -0200 From: Joao Assad X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problems making world Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------96D7E6CD8B808E3EA008D175" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------96D7E6CD8B808E3EA008D175 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Heya, Im running FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Tue Jan 26 16:41:08 GMT 1999 , and when I try to make world It stops with a fatal error. I tryed like 5 times already .... cvsuped many times but it didnt help. here is the error. ===> share ===> share/dict ===> share/doc ===> share/doc/psd ===> share/doc/psd/title touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title) | gzip -cn > Title.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' . . . . more groff errors . . . ===> share/doc/usd/13.viref sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' *** Error code 3 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. . . . Any clue ? thanks. -- João Assad - 515-5055 Depto de Operações Domain Internet - Navegue Voando!!! http://www.domain.com.br --------------96D7E6CD8B808E3EA008D175 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heya,

Im running  FreeBSD  3.0-STABLE  Tue Jan 26 16:41:08 GMT 1999 , and when I try to make world It stops with a fatal error.  I tryed like 5 times already .... cvsuped many times but it didnt help.

here is the error.

===> share
===> share/dict
===> share/doc
===> share/doc/psd
===> share/doc/psd/title
touch _stamp.extraobjs
(cd /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title) |  gzip -cn > Title.ascii.gz
groff: can't find `DESC' file
groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii'
.
.
.
.  more groff errors
.
.
.
===> share/doc/usd/13.viref
sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \   ][\ \   ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \    ][\ \]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \  ][\ \   ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \    ][\ \   ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \      ][\ \   ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/vi.ref |  groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null
groff: can't find `DESC' file
groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii'
*** Error code 3

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
.
.
.
 

Any clue ?

thanks.
  

-- 
João Assad - 515-5055
Depto de Operações 
Domain Internet -  Navegue Voando!!!
http://www.domain.com.br
  --------------96D7E6CD8B808E3EA008D175-- jfa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 10:18:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27178 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27159 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:18:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA61060 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:19:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:19:50 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems making world Message-ID: <19990204121950.F60743@rain.futuresouth.com> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <36B9E1E8.9C4BE72@domain.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <36B9E1E8.9C4BE72@domain.com.br>; from Joao Assad on Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 04:07:37PM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (Joao Assad, jfassad@domain.com.br) once wrote... > Im running FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Tue Jan 26 16:41:08 GMT 1999 , and when > I try to make world It stops with a fatal error. I tryed like 5 times > already .... cvsuped many times but it didnt help. > (cd /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- > /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title) | gzip -cn > Title.ascii.gz > groff: can't find `DESC' file > groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' Same problem here...I haven't been able to perform a buildworld in a week. Read of a 3rd person on the newsgroup with the same error. Maybe three of us can get noticed where just I didn't.. Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 10:29:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28839 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:29:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28834 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:29:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09008; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:29:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990204102349.009a3830@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:26:26 -0800 To: Shawn Workman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Knight Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems In-Reply-To: <36B92DFB.E1FA16D8@nidlink.com> References: <4.1.19990203224002.057d9b60@granite.sentex.ca> <36B92A57.B1C8D7D4@nidlink.com> <19990204001120.A20924@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:19 PM 2/3/99 -0800, Shawn Workman wrote: >so it must have been an oversight in 2.2.8S that did not give an error >message? My 2.2.8-STABLE system gives an error when I try to mount /cdrom without a CD loaded. >I know I cannot mount an empty drive, but when I forget that the drive >is empty on my 2.2.8S box it never tells me this.. Something is weird with your system, perhaps an off-brand CDROM drive that gives funny results? 2.2.8-STABLE gives an error. Here are my results: My system: FreeBSD rebma.ghostwheel.com 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 17 16:08:07 PST 1999 root@rebma.ghostwheel.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ACCTON i386 The error: rebma# mount /cdrom cd9660: /dev/wcd0c: Input/output error To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 10:35:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29536 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:35:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29526 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:35:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09029; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990204103109.009a72d0@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:31:59 -0800 To: "Mike O'Dell" , "Chris Johnson" From: Chris Knight Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems Cc: Shawn Workman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199902041429.JAA14576@servo.ccr.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:29 AM 2/4/99 -0500, you wrote: >you need to learn to be nice to your customers. I didn't realize you were a customer. Perhaps it is because your check is late. You will be denied access to this glorious souce of support if you exceed 30 days past due. >when you labelled it STABLE you set people's expectations >and how when you fail to meet them you blame the user?? >I thought this wasn't supposed to be Windows. What on earth does the labeling of -STABLE have to do with a PROPER error resulting from someone trying to mount an empty CD-ROM device? Please find a better excuse for your tirade against -STABLE. Not to mention, you didn't answer his question either. Check my other reply for an example of how 2.2.8-STABLE does result in an error when mounting an empty CD device, and the only possible reason I can think of for his system's odd behavior. And it still has nothing to do with the 3.0-STABLE branching. -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 10:44:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00679 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:44:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00673 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:44:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id MAA22195; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:44:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id MAA22191; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:44:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <017301be506e$7138e010$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Mike O'Dell" , "Chris Johnson" , "Chris Knight" Cc: "Shawn Workman" , Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:44:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please email these rants and raves to yourselves, OK (retorical)? Let's stick to technical stuff. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 10:49:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01212 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:49:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01205 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:49:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net) From: brooks@one-eyed-alien.net Received: from localhost (brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00674; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:48:54 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.ac.hmc.edu: brdavis owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:48:54 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu To: Mike Tancsa cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , BSD-Stable Subject: Re: 3.0 stable In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990203224002.057d9b60@granite.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Is there an easy way to find out if there are still some a.out libs or > binaries on a machine that has been 'transitioned' ? One of my SMP > machines during heavy load is rebooting without any warning. In other > words, is there a reccomended audit I could do on the machine to make sure > the a.out-elf transition was done properly ? It started out as a 3.0 > STABLE box from Dec. My solutions (which wasn't efficient, but was pretty easy) was to do a 'find / -type f -exec file {} \; | grep executable | grep -V ELF'. That found all the aout executable. You could modify it with egrep to find the libs too. I also removed most of my ports and reinstalled them. Be warned that this takes a long time (especialy on oldish IDE disks) since you have to stat and open nearly every file on the system. -- Brooks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 11:06:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03959 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:06:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp2.jps.net (smtp2.jps.net [209.63.224.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03951 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:06:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from onemo@jps.net) Received: from jps.net (209-63-253-239.smf.jps.net [209.63.253.239]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11040; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:06:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B9EECF.DB2F9F08@jps.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:02:39 -0800 From: ONE-MO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viren R. Shah" CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch References: <36B8DA72.F58BB5D1@jps.net> <36B956B7.4299FC0@doc.ic.ac.uk> <199902041438.JAA44908@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I booted a 2.2.7 ida install floppy and checked the device settings there. It showed the port at 0x0 so I tried that and it detected the actual port of 0x1000. I tried kernel configs with both 0x0 and 0x1000, either way I still can't access with 3.0-based utils. I am able to access it and setup a filesystem on it using the 2.2.7 floppy - but booting back to 3.0, I get the same lock trying to mount the fs. This definately appears to be a 3.0 issue. I'll check the commit logs later today and see if I can track any changes to the wd driver, since the ida still cuckoos it. Thanks for the help, I too can play a bit on my machine - unfortunately, I'm not really a C programmer.... more like a blind hacker wannabe ;^) MO! "Viren R. Shah" wrote: > >>>>> "MD" == Mark Dawson writes: > > MD> ONE-MO, > >> I finally get the thing probed correctly - I specified port 0x0 in my > > You had to specify port 0x0 ??? What is the real port that it is at? > also, what are the exact probe lines from dmesg? Mine wouldn't work > correctly unless I specified the exact port. You should also be able > to look at the EISA config on your machine BIOS (or using the floopy > that must have come along with any EISA machine), and find out what > resources are being used by each device. > > MD> The fact that you had to do this indicates to me that the EISA probe > MD> code in the driver has not migrated happily to 3.0 from 2.2.x. Perhaps > MD> someone who is familiar with changes in this area can take a quick look > MD> and advise you (and me) if there are obvious problems with it. > > That's probably true. > > MD> I'm afraid I haven't migrated my systems to 3.0 and I no longer have any > MD> EISA cards to experiment with. > > If anyone has the knowhow, but not the hardware, I'll be willing to > work on the driver under tutelage (so to speak). My machine at home is > not critical to me right now, so messing with the ida driver is ok. > > MD> Mark > > Viren > -- > Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/ > ====== FreeBSD: It's free, it's fast, it's fun. ====== > "3 syncs represent the trinity - init, the child and the > eternal zombie process." -- Jordan Hubbard > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 11:10:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04717 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:10:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04712 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:10:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20503; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:10:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199902041910.MAA20503@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: dump -> multiple fs'es and computers In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19990204130133.019e83a0@pop.saers.com> from Niklas Saers at "Feb 4, 99 01:01:33 pm" To: berenmls@saers.com (Niklas Saers) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:10:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Niklas Saers wrote: > Hi. We've got a DLT-tapedrive and four FreeBSD-boxes which we want to take > backup of. The DLT-tape can store 15 GB uncompressed, and our disks are > 8+4+2+1=15 Gb in total, filled up about a third, so there should be more > than enough. Now I wish to dump them all to the streamer and make dayly > incrementals. BUT, dump seems only to be able to handle one filesystem pr > tape. So I'm quite sure I've misunderstood something here. What programs > should I use to dump all my file systems on my four computers over to the > DLT-drive and run incrementals on them? You want to make use of the "no-rewind" version of the device. For example, here's how my machine dumps it's filesystems to a SCSI tape. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= #!/bin/sh # Dump the whole system to the DAT drive /sbin/dump -au -0 -b 32 -f /dev/nrst0 / /sbin/dump -au -0 -b 32 -f /dev/nrst0 /usr /sbin/dump -au -0 -b 32 -f /dev/nrst0 /var /sbin/dump -au -0 -b 32 -f /dev/nrst0 /home /sbin/dump -au -0 -b 32 -f /dev/rst0 /chad -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= It's a shell script, run as root. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 11:25:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06450 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06342; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:24:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08071; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:21:29 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA55761; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:49:30 GMT (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199902041549.PAA55761@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Juriy Goloveshkin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rc.network->rc.firewall->natd In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:57:43 +0300." <19748.990204@avias.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:49:30 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello, > > if "natd_enable" is set to "YES" in rc.conf then rc.firewall > loads the following rule: > if [ "X${natd_enable}" = X"YES" -a "X${natd_interface}" != X"" ]; then > $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via ${natd_interface} > fi > but after rc.firewall and before natd some programs in > rc.network require normally working network... I think natd needs to be loaded in the network_interfaces loop in network_pass1 in rc.network and should reside in /sbin. Any chance of a repository copy of src/usr.sbin/natd to src/sbin/natd (peter & jdp cc'd) ? If it's moved, I'll shift the loading. Cheers. > Best regards, > Juriy mailto:j@avias.com -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 11:31:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07531 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:31:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07515 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:31:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA14440 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:18:16 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id TAA00907; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:31:16 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199902041831.TAA00907@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: dump -> multiple fs'es and computers In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19990204130133.019e83a0@pop.saers.com> from Niklas Saers at "Feb 4, 99 01:01:33 pm" To: berenmls@saers.com (Niklas Saers) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:31:15 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Niklas Saers wrote... > Hi. We've got a DLT-tapedrive and four FreeBSD-boxes which we want to take > backup of. The DLT-tape can store 15 GB uncompressed, and our disks are > 8+4+2+1=15 Gb in total, filled up about a third, so there should be more > than enough. Now I wish to dump them all to the streamer and make dayly > incrementals. BUT, dump seems only to be able to handle one filesystem pr > tape. So I'm quite sure I've misunderstood something here. What programs > should I use to dump all my file systems on my four computers over to the > DLT-drive and run incrementals on them? Write a script that writes the multiple dumps on the nonrewinding tape device. Works just fine for me on my DLT. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 11:37:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08683 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:37:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles146.castles.com [208.214.165.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08677 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:37:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16053; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:33:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902041933.LAA16053@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Geff Hanoian" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:48:15 PST." <001a01be505e$2c4a0930$48ff020a@hanoiang.tms.toyota.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:33:24 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Just a note for everyone when partitioning your HD for FreeBSD, if you use > >the entire disk "dedicated" instead of using a DOS/other compatible master > >boot record, some BIOS' won't load the FreeBSD MBR and will die. (And, I > >surmise, some BIOS' may think it's a virus.) > > > FYI, this is in the FAQ (somewhere). HP is one of the "offending" vendors. > Apparently the do some sort of "checking" to make sure there are dos > partitions on the disk. If dos partitions do not exist the HP vectra's > print, "Read Error." User friendliness at it's best. This is completely and utterly wrong, and I will thank you in advance for a) never repeating it again, and b) telling me where it is in the FAQ so that I can remove it. The "read error" message comes from the boot1 code as it is unable to locate the boot2 code. The error is caused because the "dangerously dedicated" layout contains bogus information which confuses the BIOS. Once the BIOS is confused, boot1 doesn't have a hope of locating boot2, hence the error. Other symptoms of this include the BIOS locking up before loading boot1 and spontaneous reboots just after reading boot1. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 11:38:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08836 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:38:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com ([206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08821 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:38:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08357; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:38:37 -0500 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008355; Thu, 4 Feb 99 14:38:05 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11207; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) id OAA53509; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:38:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:38:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902041938.OAA53509@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: ONE-MO Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch In-Reply-To: <36B9EECF.DB2F9F08@jps.net> References: <36B8DA72.F58BB5D1@jps.net> <36B956B7.4299FC0@doc.ic.ac.uk> <199902041438.JAA44908@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <36B9EECF.DB2F9F08@jps.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MO" == ONE-MO writes: MO> I booted a 2.2.7 ida install floppy and checked the device MO> settings there. It showed the port at 0x0 so I tried that and it MO> detected the actual port of 0x1000. I tried kernel configs with MO> both 0x0 and 0x1000, either way I still can't access with MO> 3.0-based utils. I am able to access it and setup a filesystem on MO> it using the 2.2.7 floppy - but booting back to 3.0, I get the MO> same lock trying to mount the fs. Hmm..I've been running a hacked version of the ida driver on -3.0 current, and now on -4.0 current (for the past couple of months). So, while, the EISA/wd stuff in 3.0 may have changed, it hasn't changed a lot. All I've changed in ida.c is hard-coding the port (to 0x6000 in my case). I'll send you my version of ida.c seperately. also, can you post the dmseg lines from 2.2.7 and 3.0? Here's how I would recommend you do it: 1. Install 2.2.x using one of the boot floppies from Mark's site. 2. cvsup to 3.0-stable 3. Modify the upgrade kernel config file to include the ida drivers. Modify the kernel sources according to the instructions on Mark's site. Modify ida.c so that it always goes to port 0x1000 (Look at where I did it in my version of ida.c ) 4. run the upgrade procedure (I ran make aout-to-elf-build. I don't know whether it is still the same) 5. DO not install the new boot blocks (just in case the kernel fails) 6. try out the new kernel. If it fails, default to the old 2.2.x kernel, and make modifications to ida.c. Keep at it till it works. (don't take this as gospel. Read the upgrade makefiles to see what exactly it is doing) OR I can build you a kernel with the port hardcoded to 0x1000. I would rather not do this since the only means I have of transferring the kernel from my home machine to work is a 28.8 modem. [I realize that all this is a big hack, and that Mark and a bunch of others are cringing, but *shrug* practicality first] Viren -- Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/ ====== FreeBSD: It's free, it's fast, it's fun. ====== "3 syncs represent the trinity - init, the child and the eternal zombie process." -- Jordan Hubbard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 11:47:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10127 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:47:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kit.isi.edu (kit.isi.edu [128.9.160.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10119 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:47:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddy@kit.isi.edu) Received: (from eddy@localhost) by kit.isi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA22653; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:46:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddy) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:46:58 -0800 (PST) From: eddy@isi.edu To: Ron Echeverri cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems In-Reply-To: <199902041804.KAA43522@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov> References: <199902041429.JAA14576@servo.ccr.org> <199902041804.KAA43522@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14009.61392.46911.33090@kit.isi.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG my appoligies in advance for murking up this list with other than technical contect. Ron Echeverri states: > Mike O'Dell writes: > you need to learn to be nice to your customers. > > This is not customer service. This is the freebsd-stable mailing list. > > when you labelled it STABLE you set people's expectations > and how when you fail to meet them you blame the user?? > > Funny, when i saw the "stable" label i thought it was going to be an > operating systems with horsies and stuff. My expectations sure have > not been met. I demand a refund. > oh man, this is ridiculous. keep in mind this is not freebsd-hackers. Mike has a good point, this is indeed *indirectly* a customer support mail list (where the customers happen to be the support, much of the time). from my perspective, the way for freebsd to continue will be to continue to gain some form of popularity, with decreasing revenues due to slowing cd sales, etc. this would appear to be even more important. in turn increasing demand that somehow translates into $$$ for the freebsd development team. that user base will almost certainly be made up of those of us that don't have the genetic make-up, will power and/or access to cryptonyte (see i can't even spell), than the authors and others on this list do. i've been around long enough (installed 386BSD the first day it was made availabe), that i could, if i had the desire, get most things within reason to work, yet these days i don't. The freebsd team has done such an excellent job that installs now are a no brainer, and i like it like that. this is why i'll wait for 3.1 before upgrading my development machines. it's nice to be able to goto '-RELEASE' and be resonably confident that things will work with little extra effort. of course we the user community must be greatful for the free goods and service we are recieving for free and tolerant of imperfection. Yet we should not fear being fried to a crispy when we have a question/problem however un-enlightended it may be. so let us all just take a deep breath and consider quietly how to make this a kinder gentler world where freedom of computing is a way of life. please try to be kind to those of us less fortunante beings lacking enlightment, but would love to live in a free world also ;-). appoligies once again, but i felt compelled to speak. - rusty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 12:04:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12434 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:04:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles146.castles.com [208.214.165.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12414 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16219; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902042000.MAA16219@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stormy Henderson cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems making world In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:19:50 CST." <19990204121950.F60743@rain.futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:00:09 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > A happy camper (Joao Assad, jfassad@domain.com.br) once wrote... > > Im running FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Tue Jan 26 16:41:08 GMT 1999 , and when > > I try to make world It stops with a fatal error. I tryed like 5 times > > already .... cvsuped many times but it didnt help. > > > (cd /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- > > /usr/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title) | gzip -cn > Title.ascii.gz > > groff: can't find `DESC' file > > groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' > > Same problem here...I haven't been able to perform a buildworld in a week. > Read of a 3rd person on the newsgroup with the same error. Maybe three of > us can get noticed where just I didn't.. I just ran one last night. Make sure that you don't have '-O2' or higher in your build options in /etc/make.conf; anything over -O is known to be broken. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 12:05:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12590 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com (lakertya-2-30.mdm.mkt.execpc.com [169.207.118.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12583 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:05:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E299C45859; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:05:06 -0600 (CST) To: berenmls@saers.com (Niklas Saers), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump -> multiple fs'es and computers In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:31:15 +0100." <199902041831.TAA00907@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:05:06 -0600 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <19990204200506.E299C45859@pobox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199902041831.TAA00907@yedi.iaf.nl>, Wilko Bulte wrote: } As Niklas Saers wrote... } > Hi. We've got a DLT-tapedrive and four FreeBSD-boxes which we want to take } > backup of. The DLT-tape can store 15 GB uncompressed, and our disks are } > 8+4+2+1=15 Gb in total, filled up about a third, so there should be more } > than enough. Now I wish to dump them all to the streamer and make dayly } > incrementals. BUT, dump seems only to be able to handle one filesystem pr } > tape. So I'm quite sure I've misunderstood something here. What programs } > should I use to dump all my file systems on my four computers over to the } > DLT-drive and run incrementals on them? } } Write a script that writes the multiple dumps on the nonrewinding tape device } . } Works just fine for me on my DLT. There's a tutorial on using dump for backups on my web site at http://www.pobox.com/~hamilton/dump.html which may be of some use as well. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 12:49:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19362 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:49:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hades.mminternet.com (hades2.mminternet.com [207.175.72.13] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19357 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:49:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boing@boing.com) Received: from bsd.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hades.mminternet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01847; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:24:05 -0800 Received: from hanoiang (campus254.toyota.com [205.180.183.254]) by bsd.boing.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA66378; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:49:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boing@boing.com) Message-ID: <007801be507f$72c53cb0$48ff020a@hanoiang.tms.toyota.com> From: "Geff Hanoian" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:46:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike, I may have spoken slightly incorrectly. Perhaps to be more accurate, it's the bios not allowing the drive to recognize due to the lack or valid fdisk partitions .... My apologies for wasting everyone else's time. I have personally experienced this with my HP vectra's at work. Geff ------ 8.10. Will a ``dangerously dedicated'' disk endanger my health? So why it is called ``dangerous''? A disk in this mode doesn't contain what normal PC utilities would consider a valid fdisk table. Depending on how well they have been designed, they might complain at you once they are getting in contact with such a disk, or even worse, they might damage the BSD bootstrap without even asking or notifying you. Some kind of operating system that is in rather widespread use on PCs is known for this kind of user-unfriendliness (of course, it does this in the name of ``user-friendliness''). At least one Award BIOS that is for example used in HP Netservers (but not only there) is known to ignore any harddisk that doesn't have what it believes to be a valid fdisk table. When it comes to booting, it simply ignores such a disk drive, advances to the floppy drive, and barfs at you with just ``Read error''. Very impressive, eh? They probably also call this ``user-friendly'', who knows? ---- End of line. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Smith To: Geff Hanoian Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' >> >Just a note for everyone when partitioning your HD for FreeBSD, if you use >> >the entire disk "dedicated" instead of using a DOS/other compatible master >> >boot record, some BIOS' won't load the FreeBSD MBR and will die. (And, I >> >surmise, some BIOS' may think it's a virus.) >> >> >> FYI, this is in the FAQ (somewhere). HP is one of the "offending" vendors. >> Apparently the do some sort of "checking" to make sure there are dos >> partitions on the disk. If dos partitions do not exist the HP vectra's >> print, "Read Error." User friendliness at it's best. > >This is completely and utterly wrong, and I will thank you in advance >for a) never repeating it again, and b) telling me where it is in the >FAQ so that I can remove it. > >The "read error" message comes from the boot1 code as it is unable to >locate the boot2 code. The error is caused because the "dangerously >dedicated" layout contains bogus information which confuses the BIOS. >Once the BIOS is confused, boot1 doesn't have a hope of locating boot2, >hence the error. > >Other symptoms of this include the BIOS locking up before loading >boot1 and spontaneous reboots just after reading boot1. > > > >-- >\\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith >\\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au >\\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 13:21:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23323 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:21:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles146.castles.com [208.214.165.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23310 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16608; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902042117.NAA16608@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Geff Hanoian" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:46:31 PST." <007801be507f$72c53cb0$48ff020a@hanoiang.tms.toyota.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:17:10 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike, > > I may have spoken slightly incorrectly. Perhaps to be more accurate, > it's the bios not allowing the drive to recognize due to the lack or valid > fdisk partitions .... My apologies for wasting everyone else's time. I > have personally experienced this with my HP vectra's at work. Again, it's not the "lack or valid fdisk partitions", it's the bogus information inserted by "dangerously dedicated". The solution is simple; DO NOT use "dangerously dedicated" mode. At all. Ever. > Geff > > > ------ > > > 8.10. Will a ``dangerously dedicated'' disk endanger my health? > > > So why it is called ``dangerous''? A disk in this mode doesn't contain what > normal PC utilities would consider a valid fdisk table. Depending on how > well they have been designed, they might complain at you once they are > getting in contact with such a disk, or even worse, they might damage the > BSD bootstrap without even asking or notifying you. Some kind of operating > system that is in rather widespread use on PCs is known for this kind of > user-unfriendliness (of course, it does this in the name of > ``user-friendliness''). At least one Award BIOS that is for example used in > HP Netservers (but not only there) is known to ignore any harddisk that > doesn't have what it believes to be a valid fdisk table. When it comes to > booting, it simply ignores such a disk drive, advances to the floppy drive, > and barfs at you with just ``Read error''. Very impressive, eh? They > probably also call this ``user-friendly'', who knows? > > > ---- > > End of line. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Smith > To: Geff Hanoian > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' > > > >> >Just a note for everyone when partitioning your HD for FreeBSD, if you > use > >> >the entire disk "dedicated" instead of using a DOS/other compatible > master > >> >boot record, some BIOS' won't load the FreeBSD MBR and will die. (And, > I > >> >surmise, some BIOS' may think it's a virus.) > >> > >> > >> FYI, this is in the FAQ (somewhere). HP is one of the "offending" > vendors. > >> Apparently the do some sort of "checking" to make sure there are dos > >> partitions on the disk. If dos partitions do not exist the HP vectra's > >> print, "Read Error." User friendliness at it's best. > > > >This is completely and utterly wrong, and I will thank you in advance > >for a) never repeating it again, and b) telling me where it is in the > >FAQ so that I can remove it. > > > >The "read error" message comes from the boot1 code as it is unable to > >locate the boot2 code. The error is caused because the "dangerously > >dedicated" layout contains bogus information which confuses the BIOS. > >Once the BIOS is confused, boot1 doesn't have a hope of locating boot2, > >hence the error. > > > >Other symptoms of this include the BIOS locking up before loading > >boot1 and spontaneous reboots just after reading boot1. > > > > > > > >-- > >\\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > >\\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > >\\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > >\\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 13:54:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27471 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27460 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.198] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A9795E00DA; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:04:41 +03d00 Message-ID: <36B91359.F816BC75@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:26:17 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Stable Subject: compatible list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where can i get a updated compatible device (hard drivers, SCSI controllers, Tapes, etc) list for freeBSD? -- I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ... Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin. +---------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 14:40:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04367 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (hou4-12.flex.net [207.18.136.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04223 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:39:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.2+chrismods/8.9.1) id QAA09012; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:38:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:38:43 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compatible list Message-ID: <19990204163843.B6431@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: phoenix@calldei.com References: <36B91359.F816BC75@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <36B91359.F816BC75@netshell.vicosa.com.br>; from Gustavo Vieira G C Rios on Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 01:26:17AM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 3, 1999, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios put this into my mailbox: > Where can i get a updated compatible device (hard drivers, SCSI > controllers, Tapes, etc) list for freeBSD? I suggest you refer to http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook8.html#install:hw -Chris > > > -- > I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. > You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ... > Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin. > +---------------------------------------------------+ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 14:55:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06310 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:55:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cx757770-a.fed1.sdca.home.com (cx757770-a.fed1.sdca.home.com [24.0.167.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06305 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:55:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daren@partners-dsi.com) Received: from rio (rio.partners-dsi.com [38.240.152.202]) by cx757770-a.fed1.sdca.home.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA26490 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:11:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <010c01be508f$f2497b80$ca98f026@partnersdsi.com> From: "Daren R. Sefcik" To: Subject: struct in sigaltstack wrong?? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:44:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While trying to compile the FWTK it would fail everytime at the /usr/include/sys/signal.h line 163 with: cc -O -pipe -I.. -D_SKEY_INTERNAL -c daemon.c In file included from daemon.c:14: /usr/include/sys/signal.h:163: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/signal.h:163: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/signal.h:165: parse error before `}' *** Error code 1 from the signal.h file line 163: /* * Structure used in sigaltstack call. */ struct sigaltstack { char *ss_sp; /* signal stack base */ size_t ss_size; /* signal stack length */ int ss_flags; /* SS_DISABLE and/or SS_ONSTACK */ looking at the man page for sigaltstack it uses char & long & int I changed the size_t to long and the compile finished fine. Is the signal.h file wrong or is the FWTK wrong??? any ideas?? Daren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 15:00:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07209 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:00:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07203 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA21012; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:00:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: eddy@isi.edu cc: Ron Echeverri , mo@uu.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: -stable, support and some perspective. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:46:58 PST." <14009.61392.46911.33090@kit.isi.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:00:24 -0800 Message-ID: <21008.918169224@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oh dear, it's the support silly season again. We come to this topic at least a dozen times a year, so I'll be more succinct than usual: These mailing lists, the various IRC networks, USENET NEWS groups and assorted webchat pages do not constitute "official" support forums in the sense that their content is moderated or controlled by any central authority. Period. Being almost completely unregulated as they are, complaining about what you see here is basically a completely pointless exercise unless it's your deliberate intention to create a thread where 20 other people follow up to tell you how much clue you're missing to call for regulation in free speach forums like these. The mailing lists do, at least, impose certain constraints on the language one uses or how topical the postings should be and everyone who has not already done so is encouraged to read the mailing list charters, which may be found at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:charters.html That said, I should also note that the specific cases that Mike complained about (for some inexplicable reason, since he knows better than this) are not covered by the charters since we don't have time to play full-time list cops but simply to make sure that behavior does not stray so far over the line that people are swearing at or directly attacking one another. It's all spelled out in the charters and has been for some time, so check it out. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for seeing reasoned calls for a collective return to sanity when people are getting out the torches and the firewood, and Rusty's mail was a good example of that in action. What there has been too much of lately, however, is general complaining to the project about things that the project cannot realistically control (and should not be expected to), like EFNET's IRC channels or people's general behavior towards newbies on mailing lists, and these complaints only *generate* far more useless traffic than they prevent. For as long as these lists are populated by human beings, to say nothing of human beings in the "engineer" category, you're going to see people skewering other people over slights both real and imagined. If that's not something you can handle then I can only point out that list membership _is_ elective and maybe a short vacation from this kind of thing in your mailbox is in order if you're ever getting to the point where a public complaint about it seems to be coming on. The complaining serves no purpose other than to generate even more useless traffic. :-( - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 15:02:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07573 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:02:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07310 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22119; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:22:49 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199902042222.UAA22119@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-Reply-To: <199902042117.NAA16608@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Feb 4, 1999 1:17:10 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:22:49 -0200 (EDT) Cc: boing@boing.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG #define quoting(Mike Smith) // > I may have spoken slightly incorrectly. Perhaps to be more accurate, // > it's the bios not allowing the drive to recognize due to the lack or valid // > fdisk partitions .... My apologies for wasting everyone else's time. I // > have personally experienced this with my HP vectra's at work. // // Again, it's not the "lack or valid fdisk partitions", it's the bogus // information inserted by "dangerously dedicated". // // The solution is simple; DO NOT use "dangerously dedicated" mode. At // all. Ever. Why not wipe it out, then ? Is there any advantage ? Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 15:08:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08433 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:08:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08405 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:08:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id PAA23552; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id PAA10887; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:03:50 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id QAA27022; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:03:48 -0700 Message-ID: <36BA2754.C044DBB6@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:03:48 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mike O'Dell" CC: Chris Johnson , Shawn Workman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems References: <199902041429.JAA14576@servo.ccr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike O'Dell wrote: > > i cannot believe how crass the responses have been > to the simple CDrom question - "it didn't do this before, > nothing explained it would be any different, > so is this a problem or not?" and the responses > have been incredibly rude. > > and yes, one might want to put something in /etc/fstab > so that if it's there, it's mounted, otherwise it > just does nothing. The standard /etc/fstab has the cdrom set to "noauto." If someone is seeing errors from non-existant CDs at startup, they've already hacked the fstab. > you need to learn to be nice to your customers. Main Entry: cus·tom·er Pronunciation: 'k&s-t&-m&r Function: noun Etymology: Middle English custumer, from custume Date: 15th century 1 : one that purchases a commodity or service 2 : an individual usually having some specified distinctive trait Exactly which meaning were you referring to? I didn't see any money exchanging hands here in return for services rendered. You are right, being rude isn't going to help, but I didn't see any rude responses until the original questioner pushed his agenda (this is not what I expected, so it's stupid) as somehow being morally superior to the existing state of affairs. Rudeness begets rudeness. > when you labelled it STABLE you set people's expectations > and how when you fail to meet them you blame the user?? > I thought this wasn't supposed to be Windows. It's not windows, but the STABLE branch label has a well-defined meaning. It may not be the meaning you expect, and that is unfortunate, but it doesn't mean the label is a misnomer, just that you don't understand how the FreeBSD labelling scheme works. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 15:27:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10894 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:27:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (enaila.nidlink.com [216.18.128.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10888 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:27:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from slw (pm3d2-31.nidlink.com [216.18.131.86]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA11773; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:27:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902042327.PAA11773@enaila.nidlink.com> X-Sender: sworkman@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:24:26 -0800 To: Wes Peters From: Shawn Workman Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36BA2754.C044DBB6@softweyr.com> References: <199902041429.JAA14576@servo.ccr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cannot believe how out of hand this IDE-CDRom thing has gotten, All I did was mention that on my 2.2.8S box when I forget that the drive is empty and mount /cdrom it never gave me an error and on my 3.0S box it did. Sorry for posting the question that got a few members of the list in an uproar.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 16:03:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16539 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:03:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16519 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA21457; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Shawn Workman cc: Wes Peters , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:24:26 PST." <199902042327.PAA11773@enaila.nidlink.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:04:07 -0800 Message-ID: <21453.918173047@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I cannot believe how out of hand this IDE-CDRom thing has gotten, All I did > was mention that on my 2.2.8S box when I forget that the drive is empty and > mount /cdrom it never gave me an error and on my 3.0S box it did. Indeed, and I still haven't seen a conclusive summary. In the interests of doing so, here it is: 1. The fact that 2.2.8 did not complain was a bug. 2. 3.0S has been fixed and now complains properly. 3. End of story. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 16:13:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18826 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:13:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18813 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:13:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA97374; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:12:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:12:21 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Chris Costello cc: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compatible list In-Reply-To: <19990204163843.B6431@holly.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 1999, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios put this into my mailbox: > > Where can i get a updated compatible device (hard drivers, SCSI > > controllers, Tapes, etc) list for freeBSD? > > I suggest you refer to > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook8.html#install:hw That is disturbingly out of date. A better better choice is the release notes that come with any of the distributions. They are easily accessible ASCII text files in the same place you ftp a distribution from (either ftp.freebsd.org or a mirror). -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 16:21:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19782 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:21:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19775 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:21:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 108Z0r-0002Ic-00; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:20:49 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios cc: BSD-Stable Subject: Re: compatible list In-Reply-To: <36B91359.F816BC75@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: (THIS BELONGS ON FREEBSD-QUESTIONS) > Where can i get a updated compatible device (hard drivers, SCSI > controllers, Tapes, etc) list for freeBSD? There is no such list. All standard SCSI hard drives, and tapes are supported. Supported SCSI controllers are listed on www.freebsd.org, and in the handbook. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 16:32:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21240 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:32:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21228 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:32:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id QAA91774; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:32:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:32:30 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199902050032.QAA91774@apollo.backplane.com> To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Panic with 3.0-Stable SNAP 1999-02-02 References: <19990203192504.35970@cicely.de> <199902040017.QAA76195@apollo.backplane.com> <19990204083333.36857@cicely.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode :fault virtual address = 0x0 :... :interrupt mask = bio :trap number = 12 :panic: page fault :... :(kgdb) print *kernel_map :$1 = {lock = {lk_interlock = {lock_data = -266052716}, lk_flags = 16777216, : lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0, lk_exclusivecount = 0, lk_prio = 4, : lk_wmesg = 0xf0207601 "thrd_sleep", lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder = -1}, : header = {prev = 0xf024255c, next = 0xf0243524, start = 4026265600, : end = 4290772992, avail_ssize = 0, object = {vm_object = 0x0, : share_map = 0x0, sub_map = 0x0}, offset = 0x0000000000000000, : eflags = 0 '\000', protection = 0 '\000', max_protection = 0 '\000', : inheritance = 0 '\000', wired_count = 0}, nentries = 101, : size = 264495104, is_main_map = 1 '\001', system_map = 1 '\001', : hint = 0xf0243434, timestamp = 4475, first_free = 0xf024255c, : pmap = 0xf0253648} :... :Yes I have got a dump showing me that allocation to kernel_map failed. :Thats why I CCed to you because I know your are very responsible about the VM system :Unlukily I don't have this special dump. :I forgot to mention that I've raised some values in sys/vm/vm_map.h beacuse of the first dumps: :/* XXX: number of kernel maps and entries to statically allocate */ Well, I'm not sure why your 'print *z' failed - z can't be NULL here so it's probably gdb tripping over a compiler optimization. The vnode_zone is not flagged ZONE_INTERRUPT. The kernel_map's lock wasn't taken, so _zget() should have called kmem_alloc(). The kmem_alloc() must be failing, but I don't see where and I don't know why. :original: :/* XXX: number of kernel maps and entries to statically allocate */ :#define MAX_KMAP 10 :#define MAX_KMAPENT 128 :#define MAX_MAPENT 128 :Memory statistics by type Type Kern : Type InUse MemUse HighUse Limit Requests Limit Limit Size(s) : kld 4 1K 1K 40960K 5 0 0 16,32,128 : timecounter 10 2K 2K 40960K 10 0 0 128 : file desc 75 31K 35K 40960K 8803 0 0 128,256,512,1K,2K : file 395 25K 29K 40960K 169149 0 0 64 : sigio 1 1K 1K 40960K 2 0 0 32 : zombie 0 0K 1K 40960K 8695 0 0 128 : lockf 1 1K 1K 40960K 93 0 0 64 : namecache 2602 420K 420K 40960K 10334 0 0 64,128,256,256K : devbuf 782 302K 302K 40960K 1769 0 0 16,32,64,128,256,512,1K,2K,4K,16K,32K : temp 23 138K 168K 40960K 234285 0 0 16,32,64,256,512,1K,2K,4K,256K : pgrp 32 1K 2K 40960K 56 0 0 32 : session 25 2K 2K 40960K 33 0 0 64 : proc 7 19K 19K 40960K 8 0 0 16,2K,8K : subproc 135 7K 7K 40960K 17534 0 0 32,256 : cred 31 4K 5K 40960K 66 0 0 128 : sysctl 0 0K 1K 40960K 13 0 0 16,32 : ioctlops 0 0K 1K 40960K 10 0 0 512 : ttys 251 36K 36K 40960K 489 0 0 128,2K : soname 1 1K 1K 40960K 148515 0 0 16,128 : pcb 573 14K 20K 40960K 40347 0 0 16,32,64,2K : BIO buffer 19 20K 78K 40960K 399 0 0 512,1K,2K :cluster_save buffer 0 0K 1K 40960K 211 0 0 32,64 : mount 11 6K 6K 40960K 11 0 0 512 : vnodes 43 6K 7K 40960K 996 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 : ifaddr 11 1K 1K 40960K 11 0 0 32,64,128 : ether_multi 7 1K 1K 40960K 7 0 0 16,32 : routetbl 6359 894K 894K 40960K 6369 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 : in_multi 2 1K 1K 40960K 2 0 0 32 : NFS srvsock 2 1K 1K 40960K 2 0 0 256 : NFS daemon 1 1K 1K 40960K 1 0 0 256 : NQNFS Lease 1 1K 1K 40960K 1 0 0 1K : NFS hash 1 128K 128K 40960K 1 0 0 128K : FFS node 15230 3808K 3808K 40960K 16777 0 0 256 : MFS node 1 1K 1K 40960K 10 0 0 64,256 : UFS ihash 1 128K 128K 40960K 1 0 0 128K : UFS mount 30 83K 83K 40960K 30 0 0 512,2K,4K,8K : VM pgdata 1 544K 544K 40960K 1 0 0 512K : ZONE 18 3K 3K 40960K 18 0 0 128 : mbuf 1 12K 12K 40960K 1 0 0 16K : :Memory Totals: In Use Free Requests : 6627K 86K 665065 : :... :> : :> :The Errors are are all resultion with the same trigger. :> :Running squid and doing several lookups with wget. :> :I have tried a current SNAP 1999-01-12 :> :and tried the Stable-SNAP 1999-02-02 with the same problems. :> :... :.... :> :#5 0xf01ea7a7 in generic_bzero () :> :#6 0xf015e6d8 in getnewvnode (tag=VT_UFS, mp=0xf2734e00, vops=0xf2667300, :> : vpp=0xff5e6c7c) at ../../vm/vm_zone.h:85 This is a kernel map full failure too. The problem should be clear from the vmstat and it isn't... the vmstat looks quite normal. Try running netstat on the cores the same way you ran vmstat. netstat -tn -M vmcore.6 -N kernel.6 netstat -s -M vmcore.6 -N kernel.6 netstat -m -M vmcore.6 -N kernel.6 : B.Walter -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 16:35:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21544 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:35:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles146.castles.com [208.214.165.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21529 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:35:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17707; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902050031.QAA17707@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:22:49 -0200." <199902042222.UAA22119@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:31:23 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > #define quoting(Mike Smith) > // > I may have spoken slightly incorrectly. Perhaps to be more accurate, > // > it's the bios not allowing the drive to recognize due to the lack or valid > // > fdisk partitions .... My apologies for wasting everyone else's time. I > // > have personally experienced this with my HP vectra's at work. > // > // Again, it's not the "lack or valid fdisk partitions", it's the bogus > // information inserted by "dangerously dedicated". > // > // The solution is simple; DO NOT use "dangerously dedicated" mode. At > // all. Ever. > > Why not wipe it out, then ? Is there any advantage ? Lots of people have asked this; there are a couple of reasons. - The last time I proposed this, I received responses from a number of people indicating that the option was popular. It sounds as though at least some of its supporters like it for the "no microsoft" overtones, others just like the percieved convenience. - It was introduced to solve a problem (difficulty in extracting BIOS geometry information). When the disk layout doesn't confuse the BIOS, it does actually do this. We have a better dedicated mode ('truly dedicated', or 'disklabel auto' mode), but it doesn't fit well with libdisk. Working on libdisk is difficult. So the first reason is somewhat political. I'm not sure whether the tradeoff would be good or not. The second is merely a matter of solving the technical issues, which just takes (free) time. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 17:31:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28193 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:31:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nomad.dataplex.net (nomad.dataplex.net [208.2.87.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28176 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from localhost (rkw@localhost) by nomad.dataplex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02885; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:30:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:30:53 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Wackerbarth To: Ron Echeverri cc: "Mike O'Dell" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems In-Reply-To: <199902041804.KAA43522@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Ron Echeverri wrote: > Funny, when i saw the "stable" label i thought it was going to be an > operating systems with horsies and stuff. My expectations sure have > not been met. I demand a refund. That should not be a problem. Where did you purchase it? How much did you pay? Please return ALL copies of the materials and discontinue all use of it. ( If you bought the CDs from Walnut Creek, they do offer refunds. I suspect that other vendors will also. ) If you don't wish to discontinue use of FreeBSD, then change your attitude. One of the biggest impediments to more wide spread useage is the initial reaction that the new users get. We NEED to make the initial reaction FRIENDLY. Abandoning choices that are not working in favor of more workable ones is less likely to drive away an existing user than a new one. IMHO, FreeBSD missed ANOTHER opportunity to help clean up this mess. I, again, suggest that the next time we do a major release branch, we leave "current" associated with the branch and move references to the head to a new name such as "development". Along with this idea, "stable" and "current" simply become aliases to some branch which is permanently associated with its cvs branch tag (i.e. 2.2 or 3). cnch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 18:20:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06094 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:20:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.177.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06047 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id KAA18771 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:09:41 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:09:41 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199902050209.KAA18771@netrinsics.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Marketing (was: Re: IDE Cdrom problems) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Richard Wackerbarth writes: >One of the biggest impediments to more wide spread >useage is the initial reaction that the new users get. And, if I may belabor the obvious, developers don't do free development for systems they don't use. Users are developers. Flaming users is flaming developers. Anti-user attitudes are anti-developer attitudes. And, just browsing through the FreeBSD todo lists, it doesn't look like FreeBSD is yet at a point where it can afford to be turning away developers. I consider myself a loyal BSD user (since BSD 4.2), and I make it a point to buy the Walnut Creek CD-ROMS whenever possible, but my good will toward the platform had been steadily eroded by the gratuitously abrasive attitudes of a number of vocal core members, to the point where I'm seriously wondering whether I'll even want to upgrade to 4.x whenever it's released. Product loyalty only goes so far when there are better alternatives at the same price. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 19:13:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13828 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA13821 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 11752 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Feb 1999 14:12:59 +1100 Date: 5 Feb 1999 14:12:59 +1100 Message-ID: <19990205031259.11648.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> From: "John Saunders" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump -> multiple fs'es and computers X-Newsgroups: nlc.lists.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <19990204200506.E299C45859@pobox.com> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.37 (i686)) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jon Hamilton you wrote: > There's a tutorial on using dump for backups on my web site at > http://www.pobox.com/~hamilton/dump.html which may be of some use as well. One thing that all the dump man pages/tutorials never fully explain is the significance of dump levels. They sort of explain what they do, but never fully explain how to apply these to making full/incremental/ differential backups. Basically: Full backup means use dump level 0, period. Incremental (backup changes since last backup of any type) means use ascending dump levels other than 0. i.e. Do a full backup Friday night with level 0, then use levels 1 2 3 4 5 6 for Sat through Thu. Differential (backup changes since last _full_ backup) means use descending dump levels other than 0. i.e. Do a full backup Friday night with level 0, then use levels 6 5 4 3 2 1 for Sat through Thu. Or simply use the same level for each night. I prefer a different level so that /etc/dumpdates has a weekly history. Benefit of incremental is that the amount of data backed up is on average the same for each incremental. Bad side is that a recovery requires the last full back + _all_ incrementals to be restored. Benefit of differential is that a recovery only requires the last full backup + the last differential to be restored. Bad side is that the amount of data stored to the differential grows each day. P.S. You can also do simple network backups using rsh to run dump on another machine and using :/dev/nrst0 as the tape name. e.g. dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 / dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 /usr dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 /var rsh otherhost dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 / rsh otherhost dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 /usr rsh otherhost dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 /var rsh andotherhost dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 / rsh andotherhost dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 /usr rsh andotherhost dump ... tapehost:/dev/nrst0 /var P.S. Keep a hard copy print out of your backup script (and disk partition/labels). That way if bad juju strikes you know how to repartition the new drives and what each dump file on tape is from. I missed out on the partition info, result was it took time to work out how big to make each partition again on the new disk. And when the phone is ringing non-stop it's hard to think clearly :-) Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 19:28:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15996 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:28:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15990 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:28:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id OAA13814; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:28:44 +1100 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd013812; Fri Feb 5 03:28:36 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16264; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:28:35 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199902050328.OAA16264@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "John Saunders" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump -> multiple fs'es and computers In-reply-to: Your message of 05 Feb 1999 14:12:59 +1100. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:28:35 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Or you can use something like amanda to take most of the branework out of it. (/usr/ports/misc/amanda) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 21:01:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26104 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:01:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (enaila.nidlink.com [216.18.128.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26099 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from nidlink.com (pm3d3-2.nidlink.com [216.18.131.105]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA26148; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:01:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36BA7B81.8147B56D@nidlink.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:02:57 -0800 From: Shawn Workman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: Wes Peters , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems References: <21453.918173047@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > 1. The fact that 2.2.8 did not complain was a bug. > > 2. 3.0S has been fixed and now complains properly. > > 3. End of story. :) > > - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 21:41:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29243 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:41:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA29230 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:41:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 18067 invoked by uid 100); 5 Feb 1999 05:41:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Feb 1999 05:41:46 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:41:46 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump -> multiple fs'es and computers In-Reply-To: <19990205031259.11648.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 5 Feb 1999, John Saunders wrote: > > There's a tutorial on using dump for backups on my web site at > > http://www.pobox.com/~hamilton/dump.html which may be of some use as well. > > One thing that all the dump man pages/tutorials never fully explain is > the significance of dump levels. They sort of explain what they do, but > never fully explain how to apply these to making full/incremental/ > differential backups. Basically: > > Full backup means use dump level 0, period. > > Incremental (backup changes since last backup of any type) means use > ascending dump levels other than 0. i.e. Do a full backup Friday night > with level 0, then use levels 1 2 3 4 5 6 for Sat through Thu. > > Differential (backup changes since last _full_ backup) means use > descending dump levels other than 0. i.e. Do a full backup Friday night > with level 0, then use levels 6 5 4 3 2 1 for Sat through Thu. Or > simply use the same level for each night. I prefer a different level > so that /etc/dumpdates has a weekly history. I suppose that terminology is correct from somewhere, but the dump man page says "incremental" is dump except a level 0. I.e. - anything that only dumps incremental changes since some prior dump. To be precise about what dump does, a level N dump saves all new files since the last dump at a level lower than N, or everything on the disk if there is no such dump. Since there are no dumps lower than level 0, they always dump everything on the disk. (bonus question - why is this type of backup system impossible on an MS-DOS system?) Given that, there are any number of possibilities between the two extremes mentioned above, including the tower of hanoi mentioned on the man page. Some of the ones i've seen include a school, that did Level 0's after every semester (before you delete the students semester accounts). Level 5's at every Saturday except the first saturday of the month, which is level 3. Level 9's every day - to a dedicated file system, which is tar'ed off to tape when you're through. On systems with lots of activity, we did level 7's on Wednesdays. Normal restore is two (or, for very busy systems, three) tape backups plus the latest incremental from disk. One corporate client required complete backups of all work to be sent to the corporate storage site every month. So we did level 3's on saturdays, except the first of the month was level 0s. Then 7's every other day of the week (again, to disk). Personally, I run level 0s to CD-ROM, level 5's on Saturdays, and level 8s every day. If I do a major change on a system, I'll do an intermediate level so I don't wind up dumping the new stuff every day/week from then on out. If I'm going to do something that seems a bit risky, I'll take a level 9 of the file systems in question before preceeding. Incrementals go to a Jazz cartridge. When it fills up, I delete all the dailies that aren't current, but keep the weeklies for archival purposes. When what's left over after that starts looking like a CD-ROM's worth of stuff, I press one from it and delete everything on the JAZZ disk except the last set of dailies. Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01229 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:06:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp2.jps.net (smtp2.jps.net [209.63.224.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01224 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:06:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from onemo@jps.net) Received: from jps.net (209-63-253-215.smf.jps.net [209.63.253.215]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07109; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:06:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36BA899D.C780DF99@jps.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:03:10 -0800 From: ONE-MO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viren R. Shah" CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch References: <36B8DA72.F58BB5D1@jps.net> <36B956B7.4299FC0@doc.ic.ac.uk> <199902041438.JAA44908@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <36B9EECF.DB2F9F08@jps.net> <199902041938.OAA53509@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, here's the latest status. I used your hacked ida.c, noticing a couple changes in addition to the port address. I rebuilt my kernel with the ida port specified as 0x1000. Upon booting, I did NOT receive the same process lockup upon accessing the drive. However, I DID receive many errors about the slices and other geometry not matching. So, I decided to check the Array Config Utility and see exactly what settings I had left it at. The Operating System selected was Unix/Xenix and the RAID5 array used all available disk space. I decided to delete the array, change the OS to DOS/Windows, and recreate the array. This time, I show 264Mb unused space along with the RAID5 logical drive (strange, I thought). Upon saving this configuration and rebooting, I can now access the drive without further problems. Just for fun, I booted my kernel.old (the last kernel built with Mark's original ida.c) and I again received the lockup upon access. Thanks for the help, now if only I can determine exactly what it was the corrected it.... MO! "Viren R. Shah" wrote: > >>>>> "MO" == ONE-MO writes: > > MO> I booted a 2.2.7 ida install floppy and checked the device > MO> settings there. It showed the port at 0x0 so I tried that and it > MO> detected the actual port of 0x1000. I tried kernel configs with > MO> both 0x0 and 0x1000, either way I still can't access with > MO> 3.0-based utils. I am able to access it and setup a filesystem on > MO> it using the 2.2.7 floppy - but booting back to 3.0, I get the > MO> same lock trying to mount the fs. > > Hmm..I've been running a hacked version of the ida driver on -3.0 > current, and now on -4.0 current (for the past couple of months). So, > while, the EISA/wd stuff in 3.0 may have changed, it hasn't changed a > lot. All I've changed in ida.c is hard-coding the port (to 0x6000 in > my case). I'll send you my version of ida.c seperately. > also, can you post the dmseg lines from 2.2.7 and 3.0? > > Here's how I would recommend you do it: > > 1. Install 2.2.x using one of the boot floppies from Mark's site. > 2. cvsup to 3.0-stable > 3. Modify the upgrade kernel config file to include the ida > drivers. Modify the kernel sources according to the instructions on > Mark's site. Modify ida.c so that it always goes to port 0x1000 > (Look at where I did it in my version of ida.c ) > 4. run the upgrade procedure (I ran make aout-to-elf-build. I don't know > whether it is still the same) > 5. DO not install the new boot blocks (just in case the kernel fails) > 6. try out the new kernel. If it fails, default to the old 2.2.x > kernel, and make modifications to ida.c. Keep at it till it works. > > (don't take this as gospel. Read the upgrade makefiles to see what > exactly it is doing) > > OR > I can build you a kernel with the port hardcoded to 0x1000. I would > rather not do this since the only means I have of transferring the > kernel from my home machine to work is a 28.8 modem. > > [I realize that all this is a big hack, and that Mark and a bunch of > others are cringing, but *shrug* practicality first] > > Viren > -- > Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah/ > ====== FreeBSD: It's free, it's fast, it's fun. ====== > "3 syncs represent the trinity - init, the child and the > eternal zombie process." -- Jordan Hubbard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 22:43:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03956 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:43:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat0252.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.188.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03950; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA00358; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:42:53 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:42:52 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CAM problem with 3.0S? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-409431660-918196469=:344" Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-409431660-918196469=:344 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Further to my last, slightly more details to work from... Attached is from /var/log/messages, basically what gets spewed out when I type 'tosha -iq'...and dmesg.boot A few extra details that I just clued into. One thing has changed recently, I added a 4 gig, UW drive to the system. My controller is an Adaptec 2940 UW...with the two internal buses (one 68pin, one 50pin?) ... I have both in use...my root drive, and the CD I'm trying to read from, is on the 50pin..my new 4gig is on the 68pin. I can access both the root (obviously) and the 4gig drive, just tosha fails on the CD... %tosha -iq error sending SCSI command: Input/output error the kernel is "fresh" as of about 30minute ago or so, figured I should bring the 3.0S machine up to date before adding more data...makes no difference... Trying to follow things through a little further, I just shut down and removed the second bus (68pin)...now the CD works again. So, with both bus's in operation, I can access both hard drives (1 on the 68pin bus, one on the 50pin bus), but I can't touch the CD on the 50pin bus...if I remove the 68pin bus/cable, the CD works again... Anything else that I should be trying? Marc G. 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Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05631 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from freebsd.cybcon.com (pm3a-1.cybcon.com [205.147.75.130]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA20888 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:01:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:00:59 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: wwoods@cybcon.com From: William Woods To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Address Book?? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The only app I see in the ports collection that is like an address book is Xmaddressbook, which requires motif. I don't have motif, are there any alternatives? ---------------------------------- E-Mail: William Woods Date: 04-Feb-99 / Time: 22:59:39 FreeBSD 3.0 -Stable ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 23:02:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05888 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05880; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA30551; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:37 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:02:37 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: The Hermit Hacker cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CAM problem with 3.0S? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmm.. The Sony reports 20Mhz (FAST-20) speeds, and you're mixing a wide and narrow bus. They aren't separate busses, and I'd have my doubts about this working well. I don't remember off the top of my head whether the AHA driver reads NVRAM settings, but try and dial down the Ultra rates- it really isn't going to work well in this configuration. On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Further to my last, slightly more details to work from... > > Attached is from /var/log/messages, basically what gets spewed out when I > type 'tosha -iq'...and dmesg.boot > > A few extra details that I just clued into. One thing has changed > recently, I added a 4 gig, UW drive to the system. > > My controller is an Adaptec 2940 UW...with the two internal buses (one > 68pin, one 50pin?) ... I have both in use...my root drive, and the CD I'm > trying to read from, is on the 50pin..my new 4gig is on the 68pin. I can > access both the root (obviously) and the 4gig drive, just tosha fails on > the CD... > > %tosha -iq > error sending SCSI command: Input/output error > > the kernel is "fresh" as of about 30minute ago or so, figured I should > bring the 3.0S machine up to date before adding more data...makes no > difference... > > Trying to follow things through a little further, I just shut down and > removed the second bus (68pin)...now the CD works again. So, with both > bus's in operation, I can access both hard drives (1 on the 68pin bus, one > on the 50pin bus), but I can't touch the CD on the 50pin bus...if I remove > the 68pin bus/cable, the CD works again... > > Anything else that I should be trying? > > Marc G. Fournier > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 23:09:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06623 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:09:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06614 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:09:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from lot.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@lot.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.106]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12204; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:39:06 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:39:05 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: William Woods Subject: RE: Address Book?? Cc: FreeBSD Stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 05-Feb-99 William Woods wrote: > The only app I see in the ports collection that is like an address book is > Xmaddressbook, which requires motif. > > I don't have motif, are there any alternatives? Installing the lesstif port is a possibility here. Then you remake the address book port with 'HAVE_MOTIF=1' --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 23:09:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06772 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:09:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [142.154.6.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06767 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:09:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA27349; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:09:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:09:47 -0500 (EST) From: Bob K To: William Woods cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Address Book?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, William Woods wrote: > The only app I see in the ports collection that is like an address book is > Xmaddressbook, which requires motif. > > I don't have motif, are there any alternatives? You could install lesstif from the ports, which is a free Motif clone. Note that you'll have to uncomment the line in /etc/make.conf that says HAVE_MOTIF=YES. Also, this sort of question is more appropriate for freebsd-questions. melange@yip.org - Shave A Tree Today! (TM) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 4 23:10:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06917 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com (kronos-1-92.mdm.mkt.execpc.com [169.207.85.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06908 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:10:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8078B45E11; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:10:26 -0600 (CST) To: wwoods@cybcon.com Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Address Book?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:00:59 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:10:26 -0600 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <19990205071026.8078B45E11@pobox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , William Woods wrote: } The only app I see in the ports collection that is like an address book is } Xmaddressbook, which requires motif. } } I don't have motif, are there any alternatives? There are dozens of addressbook applications floating around (I don't use any of them, so can't recommend any in particular), but you should be able to install lesstif and give Xmaddressbook. Lesstif is a free Motif clone, and is in the ports. You may want/need to edit /etc/make.conf after installing lesstif and set HAVE_MOTIF to yes. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 05:28:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16506 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:28:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16264 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:26:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id PAA27341; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:22:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:22:56 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [ru@ucb.crimea.ua: Problems with fstat/netstat in 3.0-STABLE] Message-ID: <19990205152256.D17220@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Noone from -hackers bother to respond, so forwardind to -stable. ----- Forwarded message from Ruslan Ermilov ----- Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:21:41 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with fstat/netstat in 3.0-STABLE Hi! On 2.2.X I was able to do the following: # fstat -p 13612 USER CMD PID FD MOUNT INUM MODE SZ|DV R/W root telnetd 13612 wd / 2 drwxr-xr-x 512 r root telnetd 13612 text /usr 61498 -r-xr-xr-x 49152 r root telnetd 13612 0* internet stream tcp f0b79e00 root telnetd 13612 1* internet stream tcp f0b79e00 root telnetd 13612 2* internet stream tcp f0b79e00 root telnetd 13612 3 / 524 crw-rw-rw- ptyp1 rw # netstat -Aan | grep f0b79e00 f0b79e00 tcp 0 0 212.110.138.4.23 192.168.1.250.1030 ESTABLISHED On 3.0-STABLE it doesn't work for TCP sockets (for udp it works). Anyone's comments? -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 05:30:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16725 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:30:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com ([206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16714 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:30:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14866; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:30:39 -0500 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014862; Fri, 5 Feb 99 08:30:04 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22717; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) id IAA01320; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:30:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:30:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902051330.IAA01320@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: ONE-MO Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ida driver patch In-Reply-To: <36BA899D.C780DF99@jps.net> References: <36B8DA72.F58BB5D1@jps.net> <36B956B7.4299FC0@doc.ic.ac.uk> <199902041438.JAA44908@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <36B9EECF.DB2F9F08@jps.net> <199902041938.OAA53509@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <36BA899D.C780DF99@jps.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MO" == ONE-MO writes: MO> OK, here's the latest status. MO> I used your hacked ida.c, noticing a couple changes in addition MO> to the port address. I rebuilt my kernel with the ida port MO> specified as 0x1000. Upon MO> booting, I did NOT receive the same process lockup upon accessing the Good. That's a start. MO> Just for fun, I booted my kernel.old (the last kernel built with MO> Mark's original ida.c) and I again received the lockup upon MO> access. MO> Thanks for the help, now if only I can determine exactly what it was the MO> corrected it.... In addition to setting the port, I think I also set the slot # for the Compaq controller (though this is also calculated as a function of the port address). Finally, in ida_eisa_attach() I set : dev->id_ointr = idaintr; These are the only changes, I think. I don't have a virgin copy of ida.c to diff against. MO> MO! Viren -- Viren R. Shah, {viren @ rstcorp . com} "SCSI *is* God's bus and it's hardly an old-fashioned (or academic) attitude to think so, it's simply an informed attitude." -- Jordan Hubbard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 06:16:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22453 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:16:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22426 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA05022; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:14:42 -0300 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:14:42 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: Shawn Workman cc: lcremean@tidalwave.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE Cdrom problems In-Reply-To: <36B92DFB.E1FA16D8@nidlink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm geting some errors with IDE cdroms. I'm using 3.0-Stable. Ever I do "dd if=/dev/wcd0c of=cdrom.0" to make identicals cdroms. After 3.0-Stable, "dd" never finsh off!!. I try to kill this job but kill command don't work!!. Finally I make reboot. When my system restart my "/" was not properly dismounted!! I'm using "dd if=/dev/wcd0c of=cdrom.0" since 2.1.X. Paulo. On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Shawn Workman wrote: > so it must have been an oversight in 2.2.8S that did not give an error > message? > > I know I cannot mount an empty drive, but when I forget that the drive > is empty on my 2.2.8S box it never tells me this.. > > I am just glad it works.... > > Lee Cremeans wrote: > > > > > I hate to say this, but it's _supposed_ to do that -- you can't very well > > read a disk that isn't there. > > > > > It works great when the drive is loaded though.. > > > > All right then, you have nothing to worry about. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 07:27:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01079 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:27:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01074; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:27:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from cordelia.lcs.mit.edu (cordelia.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.55]) by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12023; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:27:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BB0DE9.41C67EA6@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:27:37 -0500 From: Xiaowei Yang Organization: MIT LCS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrading errors in /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I tried to update my current 2.2.6-Release system to RELENG_3. When I was makeing buildworld, I got the following errors. Can someone help me fix it? Thanks a lot! -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding bootstrap libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- ......... /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not supported for this target /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:31: section attributes are not supported for this target {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:73: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.section' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- Xiaowei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 08:45:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10164 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peloton.physics.montana.edu (peloton.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10157 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23188; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:45:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:45:06 -0700 (MST) From: Brett Taylor To: William Woods cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Address Book?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > The only app I see in the ports collection that is like an address > book is Xmaddressbook, which requires motif. > > I don't have motif, are there any alternatives? Sure - install the package of xmaddressbook - it's statically linked so even if you don't have Motif it will work. Brett ****************************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu http://peloton.physics.montana.edu/brett/ "Bart, a woman is like a beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one!" Homer Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 08:59:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11556 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:59:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11548 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:59:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA22552 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:59:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA27807 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:59:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14809 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:59:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:59:32 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Mark Murray Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0 via CTM Message-ID: <19990205175932.A2482@internal> References: <36B90CD9.8D526916@netshell.vicosa.com.br> <199902041036.MAA19942@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199902041036.MAA19942@greenpeace.grondar.za>; from Mark Murray on Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 12:36:17PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 04-Feb-1999 at 12:36:17 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > > Is 3.0 Stable CTM file ready? > > Yes. Please join FreeBSD-announce, and look for the announcement > that got sent out a couple of days ago. Thanks for supporting 3.x via CTM! How about the export restricted stuff? I haven't seen any int-src-3 so long on ftp.internat.freebsd.org... I think it is okay to stick with int-src-cur for the moment, right? Thanks, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 09:39:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17603 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:39:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17598 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01490; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:39:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22573; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:39:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:39:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902051739.JAA22573@vashon.polstra.com> To: daren@partners-dsi.com Subject: Re: struct in sigaltstack wrong?? Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <010c01be508f$f2497b80$ca98f026@partnersdsi.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <010c01be508f$f2497b80$ca98f026@partnersdsi.com>, Daren R. Sefcik wrote: > While trying to compile the FWTK > it would fail everytime at the /usr/include/sys/signal.h > line 163 with: > > cc -O -pipe -I.. -D_SKEY_INTERNAL -c daemon.c > In file included from daemon.c:14: > /usr/include/sys/signal.h:163: parse error before `size_t' > /usr/include/sys/signal.h:163: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or > union > /usr/include/sys/signal.h:165: parse error before `}' > *** Error code 1 > > from the signal.h file line 163: > > /* > * Structure used in sigaltstack call. > */ > struct sigaltstack { > char *ss_sp; /* signal stack base */ > size_t ss_size; /* signal stack length */ > int ss_flags; /* SS_DISABLE and/or SS_ONSTACK */ > > > > looking at the man page for sigaltstack it uses char & long & int > I changed the size_t to long and the compile finished fine. > Is the signal.h file wrong or is the FWTK wrong??? The work-around is to change FWTK to include first. But that shouldn't be necessary. I'd say the bug is in (or , which it includes). To be standard conforming, the header file should be self-sufficient. Probably should use _BSD_SIZE_T_ from if it is defined, to keep from polluting the application's namespace with size_t. Bruce probably has a better answer. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 12:39:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27042 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:39:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26994 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:39:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01581; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22613; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:52:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:52:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902051752.JAA22613@vashon.polstra.com> To: yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Upgrading errors in /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <36BB0DE9.41C67EA6@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <36BB0DE9.41C67EA6@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>, Xiaowei Yang wrote: > Hello, > > I tried to update my current 2.2.6-Release system to RELENG_3. When I > was makeing buildworld, I got the following errors. Can someone help me > fix it? > > Thanks a lot! > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Rebuilding bootstrap libraries > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ......... > > /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o > /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not > supported for this target For this upgrade you can't use "make buildworld". You have to use "make aout-to-elf-build" and "make aout-to-elf-install". Look at the big comment in "/usr/src/Makefile", and also search the -current mailing lists for information. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 12:44:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28015 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:44:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27939 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:44:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (IDENT:nZdqau08aPA51UvXUtZ0TZyaMGEEQj1l@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA02569; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:15:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (IDENT:BzGVPG/XjIuoBN2XselK1v1BM+YOoigP@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA26824; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:15:05 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Message-Id: <199902052015.WAA26824@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Andre Albsmeier cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0 via CTM In-Reply-To: Your message of " Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:59:32 +0100." <19990205175932.A2482@internal> References: <36B90CD9.8D526916@netshell.vicosa.com.br> <199902041036.MAA19942@greenpeace.grondar.za> <19990205175932.A2482@internal> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:15:04 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andre Albsmeier wrote: > On Thu, 04-Feb-1999 at 12:36:17 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > > > Is 3.0 Stable CTM file ready? > > > > Yes. Please join FreeBSD-announce, and look for the announcement > > that got sent out a couple of days ago. > > Thanks for supporting 3.x via CTM! > > How about the export restricted stuff? I haven't seen any int-src-3 > so long on ftp.internat.freebsd.org... I think it is okay to stick > with int-src-cur for the moment, right? Right. I'll be making an int-src-3 this weekend. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 12:48:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28438 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:48:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28416; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:48:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from freebsd.cybcon.com (pm3a-13.cybcon.com [205.147.75.142]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA27932; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:48:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:48:25 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: wwoods@cybcon.com From: William Woods To: FreeBSD Questions To: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD Stable Subject: test............ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG test......... ---------------------------------- E-Mail: William Woods Date: 05-Feb-99 / Time: 11:48:00 FreeBSD 4.0 -Current ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 13:36:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06245 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:36:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06235 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:36:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24561; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:20:09 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA08259; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:36:01 GMT (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199902051636.QAA08259@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: wwoods@cybcon.com cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Address Book?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:00:59 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:36:01 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The only app I see in the ports collection that is like an address book is > Xmaddressbook, which requires motif. > > I don't have motif, are there any alternatives? If you install the package (binary) it'll work ok - I use it under KDE. Alternatively, kde has ``kab'', which looks like a pretty good (better) alternative. Both store stuff in an ascii file that can be easily parsed using perl or the like. > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: William Woods > Date: 04-Feb-99 / Time: 22:59:39 > FreeBSD 3.0 -Stable > ---------------------------------- -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 14:13:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10805 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:13:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10798 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA20058 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:13:46 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990205161516.00b86760@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:16:25 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: DHCP Client?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Has anyone gotten a DHCP client up and running under 3.0-STABLE. I am interested in getting it setup, but I have heard there are major problems. Anyone here have it functioning or can point me in the right direction? Thanks, Ben Gavin /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 14:18:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11567 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:18:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coal.sentex.ca (coal.sentex.ca [209.112.4.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11554 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:18:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from leaverite (leaverite.sentex.ca [209.112.4.36]) by coal.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA29456 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:18:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990205172135.044b09b0@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:21:35 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: SKIP on 3.0 STABLE ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was trying to install SKIP on a 3.0 STABLE box and I am having problems getting it to boot up. The port compliles cleanly, but when I reboot, I get the following ruby# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/skip.sh skipld: /kernel: malformed input file (not rel or archive) modload: /usr/bin/ld: return code 1 skip: failed to load driver skip: perhaps too many drivers are loaded? I have LKM support in my ELF kernel, but it does not seem to make a difference. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, noc@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 14:18:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11757 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (net25-cust199.pdx.wantweb.net [24.236.25.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11750 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:18:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10856; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:18:28 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: Benjamin Gavin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP Client?? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990205161516.00b86760@mail.supranet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Has anyone gotten a DHCP client up and running under 3.0-STABLE. I am > interested in getting it setup, but I have heard there are major problems. > Anyone here have it functioning or can point me in the right direction? I use the WIDE client from the ports collection, and haven't had any problems. You just run it with whatever interface you want to monitor, and optional flags to set nameservers and hostname automatically as well. What supposed "major problems" are there? It worked fine at least at the beginning of January... - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 15:11:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17576 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from neale.econ.vt.edu (neale.econ.vt.edu [128.173.173.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17570 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:11:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdmurphy@neale.econ.vt.edu) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by neale.econ.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08015; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:53:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rdmurphy) From: "Russell D. Murphy" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:53:02 -0500 (EST) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2-stable - 3.0-stable and X X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14011.29244.974506.80389@neale.econ.vt.edu> Reply-To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I realize that, wanting stability one shouldn't be moving to 3.0-S yet, but I need to move a machine along soon, so I thought I'd try on my laptop. The process worked quite well, with some minor bumps. Most were probably my doing. One apparent bug is that the new boot loader, if I understand its help messages correctly, should take: boot -s kernel.old to boot kernel.old in single user mode. This actually boots kernel. To boot kernel.old in single user mode, I had to specify: boot kernel.old -s A minor point. My bigger problem is that I can nolonger login as myself through xdm. I can login (non-X); I can login (X) as root. As myself, I see fvwm start (sets screen color), screen flashes again, then I'm sent back to the login window. I suspect something I've done is not quite kosher, but it was working before. . . My .xsession-errors has: ----- IP DISPLAY :0 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: :0.0 Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server FvwmPager: can't open display :0.0 ----- My .xsession file: ----- #!/bin/sh # Get hostname cpu=`/bin/hostname -s` # modify to set DISPLAY based on IP address; avoid name lookup # when running behind natd gateway IP=`/usr/bin/grep $CPU /etc/hosts | /usr/bin/grep -v localhost | /usr/bin/awk '{print $1}'` echo "IP " $IP # Set DISPLAY if it is not set. if [ -z $DISPLAY ]; then DISPLAY=$IP:0 fi case $DISPLAY in unix:0.0|unix:0|:0.0|:0)DISPLAY="$IP:0";; esac export DISPLAY echo "DISPLAY " $DISPLAY # Merge user resource definitions, if they exist, with system definitions. if [ -f $HOME/.Xresources ]; then xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xresources fi # KeyClick off, screen Saver after 7 minutes xset c off s 600 # Mouse acceleration and threshold xset m 4 3 PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:$HOME/bin export PATH MANPATH=/usr/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/X11R6/man export MANPATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/real-player/rvplayer5.0 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH XAPPLRESDIR=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults export XAPPLRESDIR XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB export XKEYSYMDB XNLSPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls export XNLSPATH # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # start the controlling process(es). First a window manager: # Try this for something slightly different fvwm & # The MS-Windows 95 look-a-like: # fvwm95 & # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- exec xterm -ls -n login -title "logout here" -display $DISPLAY -geometry 80x15+0+0 -iconic # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- and /usr/X11R6/lib/xdm/xdm-errors: ----- XFree86 Version 3.3.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: February 28 1998 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 < stuff deleted > Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 2) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) XKB: model: "pc101" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (**) Mouse: type: SysMouse, device: /dev/sysmouse, buttons: 3 (**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card" (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "Solo 5100 LCD" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" xf86OpenConsole: VT_ACTIVATE failed xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: VT_SETMODE VT_PROCESS failed When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages xf86CloseConsole: KDDISABIO failed (Inappropriate ioctl for device) xdm error (pid 259): IO Error in XOpenDisplay xdm error (pid 255): Display :0 cannot be opened XFree86 Version 3.3.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: February 28 1998 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 < stuff deleted > Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 4) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) XKB: model: "pc101" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (**) Mouse: type: SysMouse, device: /dev/sysmouse, buttons: 3 (**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card" (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "Solo 5100 LCD" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" (--) SVGA: PCI: C&T 65555 rev 198, Memory @ 0xfd000000 (**) SVGA: Chipset: ct65555 (--) SVGA: CHIPS: no monitor detected. (**) SVGA: CHIPS: 2048 kB VRAM (--) SVGA: CHIPS: TFT probed. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: LCD (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Display Size: x=1024; y=768 (--) SVGA: CHIPS: PCI Bus (--) SVGA: CHIPS: base address is set at 0xFD000000. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Linear addressing is enabled at 0xFD000000. (**) SVGA: CHIPS: 16 bpp. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Internal DAC disabled. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: using programmable clocks. (--) SVGA: CHIPS: probed memory clock of 50113 KHz (**) SVGA: chipset: ct65555 (**) SVGA: videoram: 2048k (**) SVGA: Option "no_stretch" (**) SVGA: Option "sw_cursor" (**) SVGA: Using 16 bpp, Depth 16, Color weight: 565 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 70.158 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 65.100 (**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 28.300 (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 28.300 (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768 (--) SVGA: CHIPS: 524288 bytes off-screen memory available (--) SVGA: CHIPS: SpeedUps selected (Flags=0xF) (--) SVGA: CHIPS: Memory mapped I/O selected (--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture) (--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles (--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 pattern fill (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill (--) SVGA: XAA: CPU to screen color expansion (bitmap, TE/NonTE imagetext, TE/NonTE polytext) (--) SVGA: XAA: Using 8 128x128 areas for pixmap caching (--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and stipples (--) SVGA: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segments X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. AUDIT: Fri Feb 5 15:33:45 1999: 265 X: client 2 rejected from local host X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. AUDIT: Fri Feb 5 15:47:19 1999: 265 X: client 2 rejected from local host AUDIT: Fri Feb 5 17:20:03 1999: 265 X: client 4 rejected from local host AUDIT: Fri Feb 5 17:20:34 1999: 265 X: client 4 rejected from local host AUDIT: Fri Feb 5 17:20:47 1999: 265 X: client 4 rejected from local host X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. AUDIT: Fri Feb 5 17:31:25 1999: 265 X: client 2 rejected from local host AUDIT: Fri Feb 5 17:31:25 1999: 265 X: client 3 rejected from local host X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. ----- Any suggestions? Thanks- Russ Murphy ----- Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 3034 Pamplin Hall Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0316 (540) 231-4537 rdmurphy@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 15:32:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19679 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:32:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19611; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:32:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.8/8.7.3) id BAA16671; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:31:49 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:31:48 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DVD-RAM X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14011.32492.892285.496123@silver.sms.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got my DVD-RAM partitioned and labeled ok after enabling the dual-LUN mode on the drive but when I try to run newfs to the drive, I get the following error messages on 3.0-stable: (built earlier this week) Would anybody have an idea what's going on? Feb 4 13:28:02 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x0 - timed out in command phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): BDR message in message buffer Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x0 - timed out in command phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 1 SCBs aborted Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): BDR message in message buffer Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): BDR message in message buffer Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1) Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: : BDR message in message buffer Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): BDR message in message buffer Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x0 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): BDR message in message buffer Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:06 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): BDR message in message buffer Feb 4 13:39:07 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0 Feb 4 13:39:07 pete3 /kernel: :0:6:1): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 Feb 4 13:39:07 pete3 /kernel: (da2:ahc0:0:6:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b Feb 4 13:39:07 pete3 /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 2 SCBs aborted Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 19:28:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17090 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:28:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ibm.net. (slip166-72-224-168.pa.us.ibm.net [166.72.224.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17085 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:28:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from placej@ibm.net) Received: (from placej@localhost) by ibm.net. (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA00295; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:27:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from placej) Message-ID: <19990205222745.12006@ka3tis.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:27:45 -0500 From: "John C. Place" To: Bill Woods , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mtools help please Reply-To: "John C. Place" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Bill Woods on Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 05:50:46PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 05:50:46PM -0800, Bill Woods wrote: > When I do a mdir a: I get > ^^^^^^^ Is this exactly what you typed?? If so what if you type "mdir a:/" L8er John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 20:05:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19457 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:05:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19452; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:05:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) id VAA52675; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:05:11 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199902060405.VAA52675@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: CAM problem with 3.0S? In-Reply-To: from The Hermit Hacker at "Feb 5, 1999 2:42:52 am" To: scrappy@hub.org (The Hermit Hacker) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:05:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Hermit Hacker wrote... > > Further to my last, slightly more details to work from... > > Attached is from /var/log/messages, basically what gets spewed out when I > type 'tosha -iq'...and dmesg.boot > > A few extra details that I just clued into. One thing has changed > recently, I added a 4 gig, UW drive to the system. > > My controller is an Adaptec 2940 UW...with the two internal buses (one > 68pin, one 50pin?) ... I have both in use...my root drive, and the CD I'm > trying to read from, is on the 50pin..my new 4gig is on the 68pin. I can > access both the root (obviously) and the 4gig drive, just tosha fails on > the CD... > > %tosha -iq > error sending SCSI command: Input/output error > > the kernel is "fresh" as of about 30minute ago or so, figured I should > bring the 3.0S machine up to date before adding more data...makes no > difference... > > Trying to follow things through a little further, I just shut down and > removed the second bus (68pin)...now the CD works again. So, with both > bus's in operation, I can access both hard drives (1 on the 68pin bus, one > on the 50pin bus), but I can't touch the CD on the 50pin bus...if I remove > the 68pin bus/cable, the CD works again... > > Anything else that I should be trying? You almost certainly have a cabling or termination problem. The parity errors are a very good indication of that. You should probably have the termination set to 'automatic', or high on, low off, and of course make sure that both ends of the bus are terminated. If that doesn't work, I would try replacing the cables, checking for bent pins on various connectors, etc. Also, you might try moving the cables away from the power supply. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 20:11:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20498 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20493 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:11:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from freebsd.cybcon.com (usr1-12.cybcon.com [205.147.76.13]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA28377; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:11:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990205222745.12006@ka3tis.com> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:10:45 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: wwoods@cybcon.com From: William Woods To: "John C. Place" Subject: Re: mtools help please Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Bill Woods Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the reply, I got the problem taken acre of. On 06-Feb-99 John C. Place wrote: > On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 05:50:46PM -0800, Bill Woods wrote: >> When I do a mdir a: I get >> ^^^^^^^ > Is this exactly what you typed?? If so what if you type "mdir a:/" > > L8er > John > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: William Woods Date: 05-Feb-99 / Time: 20:10:24 FreeBSD 4.0 -Current ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 21:00:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23969 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:00:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gloria.cord.edu (gloria.cord.edu [138.129.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23964 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:00:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from twschulz@gloria.cord.edu) Received: from localhost (twschulz@localhost) by gloria.cord.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA02726; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:00:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:00:43 -0600 (CST) From: Trenton Schulz To: Benjamin Gavin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP Client?? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990205161516.00b86760@mail.supranet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Benjamin Gavin wrote: > Hi, > Has anyone gotten a DHCP client up and running under 3.0-STABLE. I am > interested in getting it setup, but I have heard there are major problems. > Anyone here have it functioning or can point me in the right direction? Our college uses DHCP for all its dorm connections. It is pretty straight forward if you follow the instructions on this website that you can find from FreeBSD.org http://home.san.rr.com/freebsd/dhcp.html I found all I needed to do was install the port and packet filter and touch the config file in /etc and I was online in no time at all. good luck, Trenton Schulz twschulz@cord.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 5 22:27:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29486 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:27:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from students.itb.ac.id (students.ITB.ac.id [167.205.22.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA29476 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:27:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ujang@students.itb.ac.id) Received: (qmail 17095 invoked by uid 1045); 6 Feb 1999 06:27:05 -0000 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:27:05 +0700 (JAVT) From: "Pajar R. Achmad" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more consoles? In-Reply-To: <19990203154843.06980@planlos.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 dizman@linux.de wrote: for example you wanna get 7 consoles try this one : cd /dev/ ./MAKEDEV vty7 edit /etc/ttys kill -1 1 > I'm trying to get more consoles. > When I run /dev/MAKEDEV with parameter ie. 'ttyv7', it says 'unknown > device' so I added the device manualy (mknod ttyv7 c 12 7). > I added ttyv7 in to /etc/ttys: > > ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure > > but it doesnt run. i get no error or so, i just doesnt run. > anybody can help? > > > bye > -- > dizman@linux.de - diz@IRCNet - http://generation.rhein.com/diz/ > pgpkey available, commercial use of my email-address is not allowed. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > - Pajar R. Achmad Pajar@ITB.ac.id http://xxx.itb.ac.id/~pajar ----- Think of it! With VLSI we can pack 100 ENIACs in 1 sq. cm.! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 02:41:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21650 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:41:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elfie.demon.co.uk (elfie.demon.co.uk [158.152.39.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA21443 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:40:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neil@elfie.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 530 invoked by uid 501); 6 Feb 1999 10:40:21 -0000 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:40:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Neil Groeber To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel build failure Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After a `make world' to update from 3.0-release to 3.0-stable I get the following failure when I try to build a new kernel:- loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o: In function `sckbdprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to `kbd_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x2be): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x2db): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o: In function `sc_attach_unit': syscons.o(.text+0x3a2): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scopen': syscons.o(.text+0x5c2): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `sckbdevent': syscons.o(.text+0x82d): undefined reference to `kbd_release' syscons.o(.text+0x8eb): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scioctl': syscons.o(.text+0x1dd5): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x1e43): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x1e82): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x1f56): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x1fee): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o(.text+0x2029): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x2056): undefined reference to `kbd_release' syscons.o(.text+0x205f): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o(.text+0x207c): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x20ee): undefined reference to `kbd_release' syscons.o(.text+0x216e): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `sccngetch': syscons.o(.text+0x2719): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x274a): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x2798): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x27bf): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scrn_timer': syscons.o(.text+0x295d): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x296f): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o(.text+0x2985): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `exchange_scr': syscons.o(.text+0x2efb): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x2f4c): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scinit': syscons.o(.text+0x4593): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o(.text+0x45a0): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x45bc): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x477d): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x479c): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `init_scp': syscons.o(.text+0x4a74): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o(.text+0x4a80): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `scgetc': syscons.o(.text+0x4e4a): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5438): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scmmap': syscons.o(.text+0x5623): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `save_kbd_state': syscons.o(.text+0x56c5): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_state': syscons.o(.text+0x5729): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5780): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_leds': syscons.o(.text+0x57ca): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `set_mode': syscons.o(.text+0x5805): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x583f): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x58ca): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5927): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `set_border': syscons.o(.text+0x5957): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5a98): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow *** Error code 1 Stop. So, the question is, what did I do wrong or can someone explain how to cure this, please. Neil. -- --------------------------------------------------- Neil Groeber neil@elfie.co.uk IRC_Nick Snudger LINUX OR FREEBSD - INSIDE 'N' WINDOWS IN THE TRASH AMD - INSIDE, INTEL OUTSIDE "Life, don't talk to me about life!" -- Marvin the paranoid android --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 02:58:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23482 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:58:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23477 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:58:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:ybV0OKe0pS8hGVdGkHBm6uycpE28LbvU@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA07736; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:58:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id UAA13686; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:00:48 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199902061100.UAA13686@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Neil Groeber , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: HEADS UP: please read /usr/src/UPDATING! (was: Re: Kernel build failure) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:40:21 GMT." References: Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:00:47 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >After a `make world' to update from 3.0-release to 3.0-stable I get the >following failure when I try to build a new kernel:- > >loading kernel >syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': >syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' [...] Please read /usr/src/UPDATING before you try using 3.0-STABLE! And you are advised to read the following statement from Jordan regarding 3.0-STABLE... Kazu yokota@FreeBSD.ORG ----------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:16:54 PST To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: When to transition to 3.0-STABLE.. NOT NOW! Delivered-To: vmailer-stable@freebsd.org X-UIDL: 917526831.000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Status: U If you're running 3.0-RELEASE or 2.2.x-SOMETHING and you're thinking of upgrading to 3.0-STABLE at this time, I thought I would just send a quick heads-up which says simply: "Don't!" Please wait until at least mid-February, when the release engineering and general tree repair work for 3.1-RELEASE has been mostly completed and all the sharpest edges have been filed off. This work has to happen anyway for 3.1 and it will make the transition process MUCH easier, so please... Wait! Don't jump in now just because we recently branched and you see a new -stable, wait until the early bleeders have finished finding the sharp edges in the upgrade process and we've had a chance to child-safe the whole thing a bit. Folks who've been tracking 3.0 all along and went to ELF everything months or weeks ago are fine and should keep right on tracking 3.0-stable, it's just that for the rather NEW situation where we have people switching binary formats as they jump -stable tracks, we're not quite prepared yet. This is a very different upgrade than previous ones and we need time to make the "upgrade" target actually work in a reasonable number of cases. What works great for 3.0-RELEASE might not at all for 2.2-stable and vice-versa, so it's not as easy as it looks. By mid-February, those running 2.2-S will be more encouraged to take the plunge since they'll have both a working source upgrade target AND a working SNAPshot or two to do binary upgrades with. We haven't even had the SNAPshots happening reliably since we branched and anyone who jumps in right now and doesn't also have the time to necessarily wrestle with a very green process simply does so at their own peril. You have been warned! - Jordan ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 03:07:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24245 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 03:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA24238; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 03:07:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id UAA17713; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:07:41 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36BC2251.14D1884C@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:06:57 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Groeber CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel build failure References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Neil Groeber wrote: > > After a `make world' to update from 3.0-release to 3.0-stable I get the > following failure when I try to build a new kernel:- I'll take for granted that you read the UPDATING file in /usr/src and modified your kernel configuration file appropriately... oh, what the heck, I won't. Have you read the UPDATING file and modified your kernel configuration file appropriately? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Well, as a computer geek, I have to believe in the binary universe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 03:38:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA26844 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 03:38:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cobra.net (ns.cobra.net [209.201.88.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA26835 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 03:38:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nitehawk@cobra.net) Received: (qmail 5864 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Feb 1999 06:36:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 06:36:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 06:36:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Cobra Networking To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Users Privlages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id DAA26840 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, Im knew to the admin part of FreeBSD and would like to know if there is a way to give certain users access...like I would like to take on a couple ppl to help me with my box but dont want them to have the full super user access Im just looking for something that will allow them to edit other users on the system files and change passwords for other users. I know I can do this by doing su -l userid but thats cause I know su pw ;) but I dont want them to be super user...is there away for this to be done? Thanx in advanced for any help ææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææ Cobra Networking Thomas C. Edwards Email: nitehawk@cobra.net http://www.cobra.net ææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææææ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 03:51:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29422 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 03:51:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elfie.demon.co.uk (elfie.demon.co.uk [158.152.39.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA29417 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 03:51:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neil@elfie.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 903 invoked by uid 501); 6 Feb 1999 11:51:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:51:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Neil Groeber To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: please read /usr/src/UPDATING! (was: Re: Kernel build failure) In-Reply-To: <199902061100.UAA13686@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry about that waste of band width DOH!!!!!! I've only just joined this mailing list (so hadn't seen the HEADS UP) as I've never had problems updating to a STABLE version untill now, thanks for your patience. Neil. -- --------------------------------------------------- Neil Groeber neil@elfie.co.uk IRC_Nick Snudger LINUX OR FREEBSD - INSIDE 'N' WINDOWS IN THE TRASH AMD - INSIDE, INTEL OUTSIDE "Life, don't talk to me about life!" -- Marvin the paranoid android --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 04:47:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07495 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 04:47:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from neptune.psn.net (neptune.psn.net [207.211.58.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07487 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 04:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chemtechweb@psn.net) Received: from 1-41.phx.psn.net ([209.63.50.169] helo=psn.net) by neptune.psn.net with esmtp (PSN Internet Service 2.10 #1) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id 10978Z-0000X1-00; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:47:03 -0700 Message-ID: <36BC3A20.8ADA79AF@psn.net> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 05:48:32 -0700 From: Emmanuel Gravel Reply-To: chemtechweb@psn.net Organization: Orbit Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world fail after cvsup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just tried to upgrade from 2.2.7 release (from CD's) to 3.0 stable by cvsupping the whole source tree. I had to restart cvsup multiple times because of connection failures, but I don't know if this had anything to do with my problem (first cvsup for me). Once I had completed the download (message of success by cvsup) I cd /usr/src and make world. Messages went by really fast (I have a PII 450 with 128 MB ram) but I know I saw many messages of "file not found". But that's not the major problem. Here's the final error message when rebuilding the bootstrap binaries: /usr/src/lib/csu/1386-elf/crtbegin.c:30 attributes not supported for this target /usr/src/lib/csu/1386-elf/crtbegin.c:31 attributes not supported for this target then it gives a few assembler messages and error 1 stop. Full output from make available on demand, but it's much too big to be included here. Mind you, I'm writing this message from a Win98 machine (I don't dare halt the FreeBSD machine until the problem is solved). Anyone have any hints to what could have gone wrong? Better yet, how to fix this? Thanks, Manu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 05:14:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09360 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:14:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09354; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA57746; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:14:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:14:28 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Satoshi Asami Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem Message-ID: <19990206051428.A57571@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <14410.918095866@zippy.cdrom.com> <199902040727.XAA26239@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199902040727.XAA26239@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi Asami on Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 11:27:08PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 11:27:08PM -0800, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * up to now) to roll me a compat22 distribution. :) > > Hmm. I assume that's going into /usr/lib/aout, right? Don't they belong in /usr/lib/compat/aout ? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 05:37:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10845 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:37:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10839; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA06814; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:37:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: obrien@NUXI.com cc: Satoshi Asami , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Feb 1999 05:14:28 PST." <19990206051428.A57571@relay.nuxi.com> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 05:37:15 -0800 Message-ID: <6810.918308235@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 11:27:08PM -0800, Satoshi Asami wrote: > > * up to now) to roll me a compat22 distribution. :) > > > > Hmm. I assume that's going into /usr/lib/aout, right? > > Don't they belong in /usr/lib/compat/aout ? Yeah. That reminds me.. How many versions of each shared lib do we want to keep around? Since we're capping off the list of "typical a.out libraries" here, it stands to reason that we may end up including several versions of some of the more popular shared libs in the 2.2 branch's history. Check out: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/i386/*/compat22/ For my "suggested" 2.2 compat set. I'm not attached to it and, in fact, didn't even put it together with any particular rigor. It's simply a snapshot of hub.freebsd.org's a.out shared libs, selected because I knew it spent much of the 2.2 branch progressing via source upgrades and was likely to have a "rich" set of libraries. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 06:59:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16660 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 06:59:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16655; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 06:59:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.60]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA382E; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:59:28 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36BC2251.14D1884C@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:08:21 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Subject: Re: Kernel build failure Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Neil Groeber Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 06-Feb-99 Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Neil Groeber wrote: >> >> After a `make world' to update from 3.0-release to 3.0-stable I get the >> following failure when I try to build a new kernel:- > > I'll take for granted that you read the UPDATING file in /usr/src > and modified your kernel configuration file appropriately... oh, > what the heck, I won't. Have you read the UPDATING file and modified > your kernel configuration file appropriately? Also, one might care to compare the kernel file against LINT and GENERIC again from time to time... Sound advice. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven join #FreeBSD on Undernet asmodai(at)wxs.nl Time is merely a residue of Reality... Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 07:06:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17579 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 07:06:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA17571 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 07:06:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Message-Id: <199902061506.HAA17571@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 21225 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1999 15:06:34 -0000 Received: from blinky.palomine.net (HELO ?192.168.10.10?) (@206.84.62.38) by shemp.palomine.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 1999 15:06:34 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:06:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Users Privlages From: "Chris Johnson" To: Cobra Networking , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello all, > > Im knew to the admin part of FreeBSD and would like to know if > there is a way to give certain users access...like I would like to take on > a couple ppl to help me with my box but dont want them to have the full > super user access Im just looking for something that will allow them to > edit other users on the system files and change passwords for other users. > > I know I can do this by doing su -l userid but thats cause I know su pw ;) > but I dont want them to be super user...is there away for this to be done? Try the sudo port. It'll let you give certain users root privileges for only a particular set of commands that you define. It's in /usr/ports/security/sudo, if you've installed the ports collection. If not, you can download the precompiled package. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 07:55:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21629 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 07:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from neale.econ.vt.edu (neale.econ.vt.edu [128.173.173.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21621 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 07:55:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdmurphy@neale.econ.vt.edu) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by neale.econ.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13028; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:57:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rdmurphy) From: "Russell D. Murphy" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:57:37 -0500 (EST) To: Jon Bailey CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Thanks and RE: 2.2-stable - 3.0-stable and X In-Reply-To: <64003B21ECCAD11185C500805F31EC0301977DC4@houston.matchlogic.com> References: <64003B21ECCAD11185C500805F31EC0301977DC4@houston.matchlogic.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14012.25832.597945.218113@neale.econ.vt.edu> Reply-To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It turns out that I was setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH in .xsession and had not updated it to include the aout compatability libraries. I've noticed a few complaints recently, so perhaps this is a good time to say thanks to everyone who makes FreeBSD possible. I enjoy it, find it productive, and am quite thankful for all your efforts. For all the warnings (and complaints), I was pleasantly suprised at how relatively painless the transition from 2.2-stable to 3.0-stable was. Russ Murphy According to Jon Bailey (February 5, 1999): | Just a totally dumb idea, but maybe | # xauth +localhost | will help? | | -----Original Message----- | From: Russell D. Murphy [mailto:rdmurphy@vt.edu] | Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 3:53 PM | To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG | Subject: 2.2-stable - 3.0-stable and X | < stuff deleted > | | My bigger problem is that I can nolonger login as myself through xdm. | I can login (non-X); I can login (X) as root. As myself, I see fvwm | start (sets screen color), screen flashes again, then I'm sent back to | the login window. I suspect something I've done is not quite kosher, | but it was working before. . . | < stuff deleted > ----- Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 3034 Pamplin Hall Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0316 (540) 231-4537 rdmurphy@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 08:53:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27313 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 08:53:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27296; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 08:52:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id BAA00638; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:52:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36BC70B2.FFD967F6@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:41:22 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Neil Groeber Subject: Re: Kernel build failure References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > Also, one might care to compare the kernel file against LINT and GENERIC > again from time to time... > > Sound advice. You are right. I always keep an eye on GENERIC and LINT, and if they change, I check out what changed. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Well, as a computer geek, I have to believe in the binary universe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 09:15:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29291 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:15:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ppc1.cybertime.ch (ppc1.cybertime.ch [194.191.120.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29282 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:15:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pajarola@cybertime.ch) Received: from tiamat.dlc.cybertime.ch (tiamat.dlc.cybertime.ch [194.191.120.143]) by ppc1.cybertime.ch (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id SAA18096 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:15:20 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990206181103.008afb70@shrike.overmind.ch> X-Sender: pajarola@shrike.overmind.ch X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:15:05 +0100 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rico Pajarola Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Why not wipe it out, then ? Is there any advantage ? Because I am using it all the time, and yes it has it's advantages. I had no problems so far, except on Compaq's and HP's on which it don't work at all. I've not come across any other machines that don't work (and on Compaq/HP you find out very quickly). In the seldom case that you installed dangerously dedicated, and it won't boot, it's a loss of 20 min to reinstall again using a 'normal' partition table entry (less than a windoze reinstall, and also far less frequently) I think it the faq very clearly explains everything about this. On old 486's with very small harddisks (which make up fine internet gateways), you gain some valuable Kilobytes of harddisk space :) and on 'dedicated' machines, I can't see any reason why I should have an fdisk partition table that freebsd doesn't need or use. I also spare myself the hassle of finding out the correct chs settings (which can be a nightmare on some machines) and it allows me to install it on harddisks >8G without having to set up a 'dedicated' fdisk partition for my root filesystem. Dangerously dedicated is a fine thing in my opinion, and if it doesn't work for you, then don't use it, and don't complain as you have been warned (maybe the warning message should write on which sort of machines it can be 'dangerous'). I'd be very unhappy to see this option go away (->reason not to upgrade) Rico Pajarola To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 09:20:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29883 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:20:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29863 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:20:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA21534; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990206091430.009b99b0@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 09:16:58 -0800 To: Neil Groeber From: Chris Knight Subject: Re: HEADS UP: please read /usr/src/UPDATING! (was: Re: Kernel build failure) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <199902061100.UAA13686@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:51 AM 2/6/99 +0000, you wrote: >Sorry about that waste of band width DOH!!!!!! >I've only just joined this mailing list (so hadn't seen the HEADS UP) as >I've never had problems updating to a STABLE version untill now, thanks >for your patience. Definatly not a waste of bandwidth. It is possible to upgrade to 3.0-stable right now, just not extremely easy. This URL was posted after Jordan's message about upgrading, and I am plannning on using these instructions to upgrade one of my boxes this weekend: http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 09:20:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29914 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:20:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29907 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beng@lcs.mit.edu) Received: from alnitak (root@miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA23438 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:20:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902061720.MAA23438@miris.lcs.mit.edu> From: "Benjamin Greenwald" To: Subject: Naming branches Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:20:53 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Perhaps we should consider, in the future, not puting the -stable name on a branch until we feel it's really stable. Perhaps we should call a new release branch -development or -releng initially. At least you won't end up with people saying "Why doesn't this work out of the box ... after all it's a 'stable' branch?!" -Ben Greenwald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 09:22:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00185 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:22:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00180; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from cordelia.lcs.mit.edu (cordelia.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.55]) by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA28212; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:22:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BC7A2F.15FB7483@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:21:51 -0500 From: Xiaowei Yang Organization: MIT LCS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrade from 2.2.8 to 3.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I in fact did that but didnot get enough information about how to upgrade /etc. What files are important so I have to copy from the /usr/src/etc? What old files can be kept? Do I need to upgrade X, or recomplie X? Thanks, --Xiaowei Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > On 06-Feb-99 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > > Is there any URL that can help me do that ? > > Please, give me some tips? > > www.freebsd.org > mailinglist > search > current & stable > > query words: upgrade 2.2 3.0 > sort by date > > that might be a start. (sorry for not being able to provide better help, > but I have been CURRENT all the way) > > --- > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven join #FreeBSD on Undernet > asmodai(at)wxs.nl Time is merely a residue of Reality... > Network/Security Specialist > *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 09:23:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00277 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:23:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00268 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:23:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA20062; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Benjamin Greenwald" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Naming branches In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:20:53 EST." <199902061720.MAA23438@miris.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 09:23:11 -0800 Message-ID: <20058.918321791@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It works fine out of the box. Upgrading is just more work if you're pre-ELF. > Hi all, > > Perhaps we should consider, in the future, not puting the -stable name on a > branch until we feel it's really stable. Perhaps we should call a new > release branch -development or -releng initially. At least you won't end up > with people saying "Why doesn't this work out of the box ... after all it's > a 'stable' branch?!" > > -Ben Greenwald > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 09:44:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02173 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:44:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.180.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02163 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:44:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id BAA17625; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:38:56 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:38:56 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199902061738.BAA17625@netrinsics.com> To: beng@lcs.mit.edu, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Naming branches Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20058.918321791@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: >It works fine out of the box. With the caveat that the PCCARD support is a big step backwards from PAO-2.2.8. Laptop users should take that into consideration. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 09:48:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02620 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:48:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02608 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:47:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21430; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:47:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA16745; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:47:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:47:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199902061747.KAA16745@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Robinson Cc: beng@lcs.mit.edu, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Naming branches In-Reply-To: <199902061738.BAA17625@netrinsics.com> References: <20058.918321791@zippy.cdrom.com> <199902061738.BAA17625@netrinsics.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > >It works fine out of the box. > > With the caveat that the PCCARD support is a big step backwards from > PAO-2.2.8. In that it doesnt' crash the system when you suspend/resume it like PAO does? Seems a step forward to me.... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 10:00:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03985 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:00:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03979 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.9.2/8.7.3) id UAA09785; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:00:01 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:00:00 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: Chris Knight Cc: Neil Groeber , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: please read /usr/src/UPDATING! (was: Re: Kernel build failure) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990206091430.009b99b0@pop2.ghostwheel.com> References: <199902061100.UAA13686@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <4.1.19990206091430.009b99b0@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14012.33484.807675.123666@silver.sms.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Knight writes: > At 11:51 AM 2/6/99 +0000, you wrote: > >Sorry about that waste of band width DOH!!!!!! > >I've only just joined this mailing list (so hadn't seen the HEADS UP) as > >I've never had problems updating to a STABLE version untill now, thanks > >for your patience. > > Definatly not a waste of bandwidth. It is possible to upgrade to > 3.0-stable right now, just not extremely easy. This URL was posted after > Jordan's message about upgrading, and I am plannning on using these > instructions to upgrade one of my boxes this weekend: > > http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html > I just upgraded using these instructions and it went smoothly, however I was not able to get my old WD8013C running after the upgrade so I just swapped the board for a modern PCI ethernet card which I should have done a long time ago. Other than that, I'm very happy with the upgrade. Thanks for the great piece of software and instructions. Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 10:12:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05214 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chmls11.mediaone.net (chmls11.mediaone.net [24.128.1.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05207 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:12:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from barley (h-182-215.mn.mediaone.net [209.32.182.215]) by chmls11.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA12798 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:12:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: Subject: Kernel Crash! Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:13:20 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be51fc$60639520$0100a8c0@barley.veldy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got the following output when my kernel crashed (02021999 source). I have been getting spontaneous reboots during periods of high network activity through this machine also. I jotted this down off of the screen. wd1: interrup timeout (status 50 error 0) Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x82c7dc85 fault code = supervisorread, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0200002 stack pointer = 0x10: 0xf2ea4df8 code segment = base 0x0, limit fffff, type 0x1b = DPL, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor flags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 4 (syncer) interrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault Could this be caused by SoftUpdates? I have it on all slices except root (and swap): First IDE (wd0) has /, swap, /usr/local Second IDE (wd1) has /usr These are relatively old drives on a 486DX100 ISA machine. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 10:12:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05251 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05246 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beng@lcs.mit.edu) Received: from alnitak (root@miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA24874; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:12:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902061812.NAA24874@miris.lcs.mit.edu> From: "Benjamin Greenwald" To: "Nate Williams" , "Michael Robinson" Cc: , Subject: RE: Naming branches Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:12:47 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: <199902061747.KAA16745@mt.sri.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My point is this: I moved from 3.0-current to 3.0-stable at the time of the branch. My machine doesn't crash any less since the move. In fact, I didn't buildworld in the last couple of weeks before the branch and now my machine crashes more often. By calling the branch -stable, whether we intend to or not, we are making a statement about both the robustness of the code and the ease of use. In the case of 3.0-stable, I think we can all agree the upgrade path has been less than smooth and the code is far less robust than 2.2-stable. I think a lot of the people who are having trouble upgrading from 2.2-stable to 3.0-stable are simply poorly informed of these facts. By puting a new release branch in a probationary period, people may be less likely to become early adopters. As a result, they are less inconvienenced and the early adopters will be less annoyied by the constant stream of questions, which although the answers are documented (/usr/src/UPDATING), they are documented in a place which didn't exist previously and we can't really expect them to know about. It comes down to the poor guy who's machine no longer boots. If he'd been installing 3.0-development, then he really has no one but himself to blame. By installing 3.0-stable, he has a rightful expectation that this shouldn't have happended, and if you ask me, he has every right to be angry. -Ben -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nate Williams Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 12:48 PM To: Michael Robinson Cc: beng@lcs.mit.edu; jkh@zippy.cdrom.com; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Naming branches > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > >It works fine out of the box. > > With the caveat that the PCCARD support is a big step backwards from > PAO-2.2.8. In that it doesnt' crash the system when you suspend/resume it like PAO does? Seems a step forward to me.... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 10:18:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05965 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.180.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05872 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:18:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id CAA17887; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:12:54 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:12:54 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199902061812.CAA17887@netrinsics.com> To: nate@mt.sri.com Subject: Re: Naming branches Cc: beng@lcs.mit.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199902061747.KAA16745@mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nate Williams wrote: >> With the caveat that the PCCARD support is a big step backwards from >> PAO-2.2.8. > >In that it doesnt' crash the system when you suspend/resume it like PAO >does? Seems a step forward to me.... Actually, it's funny you should mention that. I've found that about one time in three, the PCCARD driver stops working now (no card insertion/removal messages on the console) after a suspend/resume. As a result, I have to be sure to unmount any filesystems on my wd controller (support for which I had add myself, thank you very much) before I suspend. Otherwise the kernel will wedge hard when it comes back up and finds the mounted device missing. This is on a Tecra 510CDT. I never had that problem under PAO. Be that as it may, though, the big step backwards I was referring to was in the areas of configuration and device support. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 10:32:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07965 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07938 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx49.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.49]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA17667 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:32:07 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36BC8AA6.AED7B836@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:32:06 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ld.so is installed schg and ld-elf.so.1 is not. Why? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The subject says all :-) Is this intentional? Another question: why are the ld.so's installed using the "-C" option? This is only a matter of curiosity. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 10:42:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09056 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:42:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09051 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:42:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17357; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:41:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:41:53 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Benjamin Greenwald cc: Nate Williams , Michael Robinson , jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Naming branches In-Reply-To: <199902061812.NAA24874@miris.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > By calling the branch -stable, whether we intend to or not, we are making a > statement about both the robustness of the code and the ease of use. The real meaning of "stable" is that the code base doesn't go through dramatic changes over time. Hopefully robustness of code follows from this because the fixing of existing bugs outpaces the introduction of new bugs. The actual robustness of the code is more a function of the minor release number than whether or not it is labeled "stable" or not. The major number is more an indication of cool features. I'm not sure how this could best be clarified to users. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 12:36:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20205 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:36:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20193 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (root@shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02218; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:36:07 +0300 (MSK) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01197; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:37:09 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199902062037.XAA01197@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Alexandr E. Derevyanko" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cyrillic is broken in XFree86 3.3.3.1? In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:54:22 +0300." Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:37:09 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Alexandr E. Derev yanko" writes: > >Few weeks ago i have a same problem. When i use XKB, it works in Netscape, >but in xterms all symbols was in iso-8859-5 encoding. Do you have the same >problem ? I don's solve it yet. I've cvsupped -STABLE today, rebuilt world, reinstalled world and kernel and WOOOOOPS! xterm works. Kind of black magic... Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ÁÂ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 17:40:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19115 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:40:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles177.castles.com [208.214.165.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19010 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:39:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02044; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902070135.RAA02044@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Benjamin Greenwald" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Naming branches In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:12:47 EST." <199902061812.NAA24874@miris.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:35:12 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > By calling the branch -stable, whether we intend to or not, we are making a > statement about both the robustness of the code and the ease of use. In the > case of 3.0-stable, I think we can all agree the upgrade path has been less > than smooth and the code is far less robust than 2.2-stable. Personally, I think that "we" would like to hear fewer complaints about how "un-stable" things are, and receive more _help_ in resolving whatever issues are being brought up. I'm not quite sure who everyone out there thinks is doing the work here. FreeBSD is developed and maintained by a group of volunteers, and the best, nay the only way to encourage them is helping. Whining is not, never has been, and never will be useful. Please consider how you can direct your efforts towards helping the Project. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 17:52:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20084 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail2.acninc.net (mail2.acninc.net [38.201.2.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19983 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:52:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@reportz.net) Received: from reportz.net (ipa64.new-cumberland4.pa.pub-ip.psi.net) by mail2.acninc.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.2.1998.10.13.00.06) with ESMTP id <0F6R000IDFSM38@mail2.acninc.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:22:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:24:59 -0500 From: thevapors Subject: *Make All Install* To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <36BE3CEA.47815019@reportz.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsupped to 3.0-stable with elf. Everything runs pretty well except for one last thing... When I type: # cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall # make all install This is the error message I get: Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/release/sysinstall cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../sys -DUC_PRIVATE -DKERN_NO_SYMBOLS -static -o sysinstall anonFTP.o cdrom.o command.o config.o devices.o kget.o disks.o dispatch.o dist.o dmenu.o doc.o dos.o floppy.o ftp.o globals.o index.o install.o installUpgrade.o keymap.o label.o lndir.o main.o makedevs.o media.o menus.o misc.o mouse.o msg.o network.o nfs.o options.o package.o register.o system.o tape.o tcpip.o termcap.o ufs.o user.o variable.o wizard.o -ldialog -lncurses -lmytinfo -lutil -ldisk -lftpio command.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized *** Error code 1 ------------------------------- Does anyone have any clue what is wrong? Please send me an email back if you have any clues at all on what I could do to get it working, or if you need more information just drop me an email. Thanks alot! Bill Rollins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 18:14:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21728 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:14:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peloton.physics.montana.edu (peloton.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21644 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:13:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA19263; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:13:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:13:10 -0700 (MST) From: Brett Taylor To: Benjamin Gavin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP Client?? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990205161516.00b86760@mail.supranet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Benjamin wrote: > Has anyone gotten a DHCP client up and running under 3.0-STABLE. I > am interested in getting it setup, but I have heard there are major > problems. Anyone here have it functioning or can point me in the right > direction? Running it right now: hot-monkey: {7} uname -rs FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE I just installed isc-dhcp2 from the ports collection and ran it. -shrug- Brett ****************************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu http://peloton.physics.montana.edu/brett/ "Bart, a woman is like a beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one!" Homer Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 20:39:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03188 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:39:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03182 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:39:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA21272; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:39:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Michael Robinson cc: beng@lcs.mit.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Naming branches In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Feb 1999 01:38:56 +0800." <199902061738.BAA17625@netrinsics.com> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:39:42 -0800 Message-ID: <21268.918362382@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > >It works fine out of the box. > > With the caveat that the PCCARD support is a big step backwards from > PAO-2.2.8. Laptop users should take that into consideration. This has always been an issue with the PAO folks, even those running 2.2.8 or 3.0. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 20:46:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04142 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:46:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tolstoy.mpd.ca (mpd.ca [206.123.11.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04121 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wlloyd@tolstoy.mpd.ca) Received: (from wlloyd@localhost) by tolstoy.mpd.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13330; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:44:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wlloyd) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:44:18 -0500 From: William Lloyd To: Brett Taylor Cc: Benjamin Gavin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP Client?? Message-ID: <19990206234418.A13258@tolstoy.mpd.ca> References: <4.1.19990205161516.00b86760@mail.supranet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Brett Taylor on Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 07:13:10PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 07:13:10PM -0700, Brett Taylor wrote: > Benjamin wrote: > > Has anyone gotten a DHCP client up and running under 3.0-STABLE. I > > am interested in getting it setup, but I have heard there are major > > problems. Anyone here have it functioning or can point me in the right > > direction? > I just installed isc-dhcp2 from the ports collection and ran it. -shrug- > I'm also using DHPC now. I have one machine running the isc-dhcp2 server on 2 interfaces and the wide-dhcp client on still another interface. I found that the isc-dhcp client has a bug and resets both interfaces even if you only want one. The mailing lists refer to a patch I never found. wide-dhcp works nicely for FreeBSD client and is easy to setup Install wide-dhcp cd /usr/ports/net/wide-dhcp make install make clean my ether net interface is de0, substitute yours everywhere edit /etc/rc.conf and modify the following line network_interfaces="lo0 de0" create a file called /etc/start_if.de0 cat > /etc/start_if.de0 #/bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/dhcpc -r -n de0 & sleep 5 #I let it aquire and set the interface ctrl-d to save the file man dhcpc read this for other options for the dhcpc command The options above will clobber /etc/resolv.conf with a server supplied value. -bill -- William Lloyd mailto:wlloyd@mpd.ca | http://www.mpd.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 20:47:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04202 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04194 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA21307; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:47:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Benjamin Greenwald" cc: "Nate Williams" , "Michael Robinson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Naming branches In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:12:47 EST." <199902061812.NAA24874@miris.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:47:20 -0800 Message-ID: <21303.918362840@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > By calling the branch -stable, whether we intend to or not, we are making a > statement about both the robustness of the code and the ease of use. In the > case of 3.0-stable, I think we can all agree the upgrade path has been less > than smooth and the code is far less robust than 2.2-stable. We don't agree on any such thing. I have no idea why your system crashes with either 2.2.x or 3.0, but I'd be more inclined to target the system in such a case, not the OS. > It comes down to the poor guy who's machine no longer boots. If he'd been > installing 3.0-development, then he really has no one but himself to blame. > By installing 3.0-stable, he has a rightful expectation that this shouldn't > have happended, and if you ask me, he has every right to be angry. I think he has every right to try and change things for the better since this is a volunteer OS and people aren't paying for it - CD folks contribute, but pay for the core technology? They couldn't help recoup the donated development costs if they paid 10X the CD price. So nobody has a "right" to be angry about anything and those who think that they do should really investigate another offering, Like Red Hat Linux, before venting that in our direction. Life is too short and there are too many users jumping into the lifeboat to tolerate such people at all. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 6 23:59:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19987 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (enaila.nidlink.com [216.18.128.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19982 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from nidlink.com (pm3d2-10.nidlink.com [216.18.131.65]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA12264 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:58:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36BD4843.2751D0DE@nidlink.com> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:01:07 -0800 From: Shawn Workman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsup'd RELENG_3 at 23:20 PST and ran 'make world' (I am already ELF', and it errored out within a minute or so. Here is the typescript: Script started on Sat Feb 6 23:51:20 1999 hal# make world -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> elf make world started on Sat Feb 6 23:51:26 PST 1999 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Cleaning up the temporary elf build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/ rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making make -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make ( cd /usr/src/usr.bin/make; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=""; unset MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/share/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/share/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED install; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/share/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED clean ) cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/arch.c cc: installation problem, cannot exec `/usr/libexec/elf/as': Exec format error /usr/src/usr.bin/make/arch.c: In function `ArchFree': /usr/src/usr.bin/make/arch.c:158: output pipe has been closed *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. hal# script      exit hal# exit Script done on Sat Feb 6 23:53:00 1999 Any ideas what I did wrong? 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