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3.3-stable as of 99.10.23
smp
wl0 wavelan isa card

gets

    Oct 24 03:04:00 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: ERRs a269
    Oct 24 03:04:17 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: ERRs a7da
    Oct 24 03:04:17 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: !OK 9803

and the box locks up.  or sometimes just the wl0 locks up and an ifconfig
down/up wakes it up.

if i do not use the wl0 from a remote i do not see the crashes.  the system
seems stable otherwise.

randy


Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Sat Oct 23 21:59:01 PDT 1999
    root@rip.psg.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RIP
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x651  Stepping = 1
  Features=0x183fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
real memory  = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
avail memory = 127438848 (124452K bytes)
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard
 cpu0 (BSP): apic id:  1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000
 cpu1 (AP):  apic id:  0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000
 io0 (APIC): apic id:  2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02da000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Intel 82443BX host to PCI bridge> rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <Intel 82443BX host to AGP bridge> rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0
chip2: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0
chip3: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3
ahc0: <Adaptec aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 19 on pci0.6.0
ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
fxp0: <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 0x05 int a irq 19 on pci0.9.0
fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:df:c8:4e
bktr0: <BrookTree 878> rev 0x02 int a irq 18 on pci0.10.0
bti2c0: <bt848 Hard/Soft I2C controller>
iicbb0: <I2C generic bit-banging driver> on bti2c0
iicbus0: <Philips I2C bus> on iicbb0 master-only
smbus0: <System Management Bus> on bti2c0
smb0: <SMBus general purpose I/O> on smbus0
bktr0: Hauppauge Model 61111 A M 
bktr0: Detected a MSP3430G-A1 at 0x80
Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, msp3400c stereo.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
vga0: <Matrox model 051f graphics accelerator> rev 0x00 int a irq 16 on pci1.0.0
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c3 [0xc3008c0e] Serial 0x1fd0a682 Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041]
pcm1 (SB16pnp <SB16 PnP> sn 0x1fd0a682) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 irq 12 on isa
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
wl0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 7 on isa
wl0: address 08:00:6a:2b:dd:a7, NWID 0xaaaa
APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery
APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2
ccd0-5: Concatenated disk drivers
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
sa0: <DEC DLT2000 8B37> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 15)
changing root device to da0s1a
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <SEAGATE ST34573LW 5702> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da1: <SEAGATE ST34573LW 5702> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
cd0: <TEAC CD-ROM CD-532S 1.0A> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 16)
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
cd1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
cd1: <YAMAHA CRW4416S 1.0f> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd1: 8.333MB/s transfers (8.333MHz, offset 31)
cd1: cd present [140956 x 2048 byte records]


#
# GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.143.2.23 1999/10/10 23:04:56 wpaul Exp $

# This allows you to actually store this configuration file into
# the kernel binary itself, where it may be later read by saying:
#    strings -aout -n 3 /kernel | grep ^___ | sed -e 's/^___//' > MYKERNEL
#
options         INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE     # Include this file in kernel

machine		"i386"
#cpu		"I386_CPU"
#cpu		"I486_CPU"
#cpu		"I586_CPU"
cpu		"I686_CPU"
ident		RIP
maxusers	96

#options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
#options 	MFS_ROOT		#MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed
options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
#options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	"CD9660"		#ISO 9660 Filesystem
#options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	"COMPAT_43"		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=5000		#Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
#options 	FAILSAFE		#Be conservative
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) syscall trace support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores

config		kernel	root on da0

# Soft updates is technique for improving file system speed and
# making abrupt shutdown less risky.  It is not enabled by default due
# to copyright restraints on the code that implement it.
#
# Read ../../ufs/ffs/README.softupdates to learn what you need to
# do to enable this.  ../../contrib/softupdates/README gives
# more details on how they actually work.
#
options         SOFTUPDATES

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
options		SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
options		APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
# Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown):
options		NCPU=2			# number of CPUs
options		NBUS=4			# number of busses
options		NAPIC=2			# number of IO APICs
options		NINTR=24		# number of INTs

controller	isa0
controller	pnp0			# PnP support for ISA
#controller	eisa0
controller	pci0

# Real time extensions added in the 1993 Posix
# P1003_1B: Infrastructure
# _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING: Build in _POSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
# _KPOSIX_VERSION:             Version kernel is built for
options 	"P1003_1B"
options 	"_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING"
options 	"_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L"

# Floppy drives
controller	fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 bio irq 6 drq 2
disk		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
#disk		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

controller	ahc0		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices

# SCSI peripherals
# Only one of each of these is needed, they are dynamically allocated.
controller	scbus0	at ahc0 # SCSI bus (required)
#device		da0		# Direct Access (disks)
disk		da0 at scbus0 target 0 unit 0
disk		da1 at scbus0 target 1 unit 0
device		sa0		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
device		cd0		# CD
device		pass0		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI)

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
controller	atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD tty
device		atkbd0	at isa? tty irq 1
device		psm0	at isa? tty irq 12

device		vga0	at isa? port ? conflicts

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? tty

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
#device		apm0	at nexus? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 tty irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 tty irq 3

# PCI Ethernet NICs.
device		fxp0		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	tun	1	# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty    32	# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	ccd	6	#Concatenated disk driver


device wl0 at isa? port 0x300 irq ?
options		WLCACHE		# enables the signal-strength cache

#
# SMB bus
#
# System Management Bus support provided by the 'smbus' device.
#
# Supported devices:
# smb	standard io
#
# Supported interfaces:
# iicsmb I2C to SMB bridge with any iicbus interface
# bktr	brooktree848 I2C hardware interface
# intpm	Intel PIIX4 Power Management Unit
# alpm	Acer Aladdin-IV/V/Pro2 Power Management Unit
#
controller smbus0
#controller intpm0
#controller alpm0

device smb0	at smbus?

#
# I2C Bus
#
# Philips i2c bus support is provided by the `iicbus' device.
#
# Supported devices:
# ic	i2c network interface
# iic	i2c standard io
# iicsmb i2c to smb bridge. Allow i2c i/o with smb commands.
#
# Supported interfaces:
# pcf	Philips PCF8584 ISA-bus controller
# bktr	brooktree848 I2C software interface
#
# Other:
# iicbb	generic I2C bit-banging code (needed by lpbb, bktr)
#
controller iicbus0
controller iicbb0

device ic0	at iicbus?
#device iic0	at iicbus?
#device iicsmb0	at iicbus?

# Brooktree driver has been ported to the new I2C framework. Thus,
# you'll need to have the following 3 lines in the kernel config.
#     controller smbus0
#     controller iicbus0
#     controller iicbb0
# The iic and smb devices are only needed if you want to control other
# I2C slaves connected to the external connector of some cards.
#
device	bktr0

# Luigi's snd code (use INSTEAD of snd0 and all VOXWARE drivers!).
# You may also wish to enable the pnp controller with this, for pnp
# sound cards.
#
device	pcm0	at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0


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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Oct 24  3:49:19 1999
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Please put me on the FreeBSD-Stable mailing list.
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Oct 24  6:57:52 1999
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Config that works well for me, is slapping an entire /24 on the ethernet
interface, then sticking a static route on my router:

	ip route 192.168.20.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.10

Sources outside the LAN are properly routed to the right place, and hosts on
the LAN are ICMP redirected to the right place.  Easy stuff maynard.  It
gets even easier if you run gated and let ospf do the talking for you.

The routing problems mentioned by Forrest only appeared for me when I tried
to use the loopback interface.  Perhaps I'd done something terribly wrong to
make it not work.

Just for kicks, when I had the spare IP addresses availiable, I did have an
entire /22 aliased to the ethernet port.  It worked perfectly.


YMMV,

Troy




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I have a FreeBSD server here doing a little bit of everything, including
mail for my network here. I was in the market for a free, featured imap
server that could do the following:

	Work with $HOME/Mailbox
	Support configurable folders

I haven't had any luck with imap-uw. I read the docs on how to change it
to use $HOME/Mailbox, but the hack didn't seem to work at all. 

What I mean by configurable folders, is something like this:

Mail comes in, postfix delivers it to procmail, procmail filters it into
the correct "folder" like:

:0:
* ^To:.*stable@freebsd.org
in.freebsd-stable

Here comes the folders part... when you logon with imap to the server,
it reports Inbox, in.freebsd-stable, and all the other folders.

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Sean


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Hi,

----- Original Message -----
From: Sean-Paul Rees <sean@dreamfire.net>
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Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 10:55 AM
Subject: imap, postfix, freebsd


> I have a FreeBSD server here doing a little bit of everything, including
> mail for my network here. I was in the market for a free, featured imap
> server that could do the following:
>
> Work with $HOME/Mailbox
> Support configurable folders
>
> I haven't had any luck with imap-uw. I read the docs on how to change it
> to use $HOME/Mailbox, but the hack didn't seem to work at all.
>

Well I had made a port with the necessary modifications to IMAP-uw.
The patch you are looking for can be found on the QMAIL site. They need to
be changed a bit to work well (which is why I did a port to begin with), but
overall it's OK...

I will update the port to match the current version of IMAP-UW and resubmit
it.

However, I think that the CYRUS IMAP server is somewhat nicer than IMAP-UW.
Is anybody looking at updating the port ?

Patrick.




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Freshly cvsup'd my box this morning, and was going to let it do a
buildworld while I ate breakfast.

No such luck.

It dies as soon as it tries to 'install' the first thing it compiles
(make):

cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include
-c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstReplace.c
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include
-c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstSucc.c
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include
-static -o make arch.o buf.o compat.o cond.o dir.o for.o hash.o job.o
main.o make.o parse.o str.o suff.o targ.o var.o util.o lstAppend.o
lstAtEnd.o lstAtFront.o lstClose.o lstConcat.o lstDatum.o lstDeQueue.o
lstDestroy.o lstDupl.o lstEnQueue.o lstFind.o lstFindFrom.o lstFirst.o
lstForEach.o lstForEachFrom.o lstInit.o lstInsert.o lstIsAtEnd.o
lstIsEmpty.o lstLast.o lstMember.o lstNext.o lstOpen.o lstRemove.o
lstReplace.o lstSucc.o  
install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   make /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin
*** Error code 70

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.


I've never seen the Error code 70 before.  Any ideas/help would be muchly
appreciated. :-)

-Pat


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Hi there,
I recently cvsuped to FreeBSD-3.3 as of
yesterday.
I am trying to make a release so,
I edited the /usr/src/release/Makefile
and setup the appropriate values for CVSROOT,
BUILDTAG, etc,,,
I left the thing do for many hours, and tried to
build the ports, and docs too.
apprently it is broken in the international
section of docs.
Any suggestions ?
I am trying "currently" to build the release
without ports and docs, in the hope that
everything will go smooth.
Anyone succeeded in building such a release ?
and yes I the complete cvs repository, and gnats
too.  Any help is appreciated.
sorry I could not give the exact location where
it was broken, its gone now in the volatile
memory of the vga display, but anyways, if
severly needed I'll repeat the thing again, and
get that error in next mail. 


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cvsup'd a few minutes ago and started my buildworld  (14:35 CST
10/24/99) and got the following error.  Any ideas or suggestions?


===> usr.bin/kdump
cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace
-I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../..   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c
ioctl.c
In file included from ioctl.c:77:
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/sys/memrange.h:16: warning:
`MDF_ACTIVE' redefined
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/pccard/cardinfo.h:77: warning: this is
the location of the previous definition
ioctl.c: In function `ioctlname':
ioctl.c:1200: `PPS_IOC_WAIT' undeclared (first use this function)
ioctl.c:1200: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ioctl.c:1200: for each function it appears in.)
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1



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I'm getting the following on a simple 'make upgrade'...sources are
slightly old (Oct 12thish), but a make buildworld worked at the time...

cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER   -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd/xms.c
ld -N -Bstatic -T 110000 -o doscmd.kernel   crt0.o AsyncIO.o ParseBuffer.o bios.o callback.o cpu.o dos.o cmos.o config.o cwd.o debug.o disktab.o doscmd.o ems.o emuint.o exe.o i386-pinsn.o int.o int10.o int13.o int14.o int16.o int17.o int1a.o int2f.o intff.o mem.o mouse.o net.o port.o setver.o signal.o timer.o trace.o trap.o tty.o xms.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -L/usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/aout -lgcc -lc
ld: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.a(): bad magic



Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org 
primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org 



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On Sun, Oct 24, 1999, Pat Young <xdice@mindspring.net> quoth:
> Freshly cvsup'd my box this morning, and was going to let it do a
> buildworld while I ate breakfast.
> 
> No such luck.
> 
> It dies as soon as it tries to 'install' the first thing it compiles
> (make):
> 
> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include
> -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstReplace.c
> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include
> -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/lst.lib/lstSucc.c
> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include
> -static -o make arch.o buf.o compat.o cond.o dir.o for.o hash.o job.o
> main.o make.o parse.o str.o suff.o targ.o var.o util.o lstAppend.o
> lstAtEnd.o lstAtFront.o lstClose.o lstConcat.o lstDatum.o lstDeQueue.o
> lstDestroy.o lstDupl.o lstEnQueue.o lstFind.o lstFindFrom.o lstFirst.o
> lstForEach.o lstForEachFrom.o lstInit.o lstInsert.o lstIsAtEnd.o
> lstIsEmpty.o lstLast.o lstMember.o lstNext.o lstOpen.o lstRemove.o
> lstReplace.o lstSucc.o  
> install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   make /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin
> *** Error code 70
> 
> Stop.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> 
> 
> I've never seen the Error code 70 before.  Any ideas/help would be muchly
> appreciated. :-)
> 

Seek and ye shall recieve.  I found the answer to my problem.

My kernel, and my system were out of sync.  I rebooted to the previous
kernel, and all is well.

:-)
-Pat



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I am wanting to upgrade to FreeBSD Version 3.3 Release
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I have noticed that FreeBSD 3.3 only has version 1.0.0 of the
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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:36:48 EST, Zapper wrote:

> cvsup'd a few minutes ago and started my buildworld  (14:35 CST
> 10/24/99) and got the following error.  Any ideas or suggestions?

Yes, don't use NOCLEAN.

Ciao,
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Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote:
> However, I think that the CYRUS IMAP server is somewhat nicer than IMAP-UW.
> Is anybody looking at updating the port ?

I tryed to run it but there are a problem. New Cyrus uses PAM. But
non-root user hasn't got permissions to athentificate user by pam_unix.
I don't know is this a feature or bug. It's possible to use Curus's
users database.

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Hi,

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Adrian Penisoara wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> 
> > Can you test the latest version from my web page ?  This should be 
> > fixed.
> 
>  Yep, it doesn't die with SIGBUS anymore; I'm not yet too sure about that
> weird "IPCP not open" error message, I got it a few times but I assume it
> was from the old PPP, I'll confirm this later, if you still need to...

 Hmmm, I still get these "ip_Input: IPCP not open - packet dropped"
messages, though it doesn't die with SIGBUS...

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> Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote:
> > However, I think that the CYRUS IMAP server is somewhat nicer
> than IMAP-UW.
> > Is anybody looking at updating the port ?
>
> I tryed to run it but there are a problem. New Cyrus uses PAM. But
> non-root user hasn't got permissions to athentificate user by pam_unix.
> I don't know is this a feature or bug. It's possible to use Curus's
> users database.
>

As far as I can tell, the newer cyrus will still use pwcheck, but only
through that SASL crap, which, when building with --with-pwcheck, it chokes
and pukes.  On my list of things to do this week, is to figure out what the
folks at CMU have been smoking and how it's affected their ability to create
clean code and reasonable documentation.


Save the rest for a better time/list,

-Troy



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> 3.3-stable as of 99.10.23
> smp
> wl0 wavelan isa card
> 
> gets
> 
>     Oct 24 03:04:00 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: ERRs a269
>     Oct 24 03:04:17 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: ERRs a7da
>     Oct 24 03:04:17 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: !OK 9803
> 
> and the box locks up.  or sometimes just the wl0 locks up and an ifconfig
> down/up wakes it up.
> 
> if i do not use the wl0 from a remote i do not see the crashes.  the system
> seems stable otherwise.

confirmed with a complete resup and rebuild.  disable wl0 and it is stable.
enable and it soon dies.

randy


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> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Adrian Penisoara wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > 
> > > Can you test the latest version from my web page ?  This should be 
> > > fixed.
> > 
> >  Yep, it doesn't die with SIGBUS anymore; I'm not yet too sure about that
> > weird "IPCP not open" error message, I got it a few times but I assume it
> > was from the old PPP, I'll confirm this later, if you still need to...
> 
>  Hmmm, I still get these "ip_Input: IPCP not open - packet dropped"
> messages, though it doesn't die with SIGBUS...

This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
happens :-/

>  Thanks
>  Ady (@warpnet.ro)

Thanks.

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> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Adrian Penisoara wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > 
> > > Can you test the latest version from my web page ?  This should be 
> > > fixed.
> > 
> >  Yep, it doesn't die with SIGBUS anymore; I'm not yet too sure about that
> > weird "IPCP not open" error message, I got it a few times but I assume it
> > was from the old PPP, I'll confirm this later, if you still need to...
> 
>  Hmmm, I still get these "ip_Input: IPCP not open - packet dropped"
> messages, though it doesn't die with SIGBUS...

This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
happens :-/

>  Thanks
>  Ady (@warpnet.ro)

Thanks.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Mon Oct 25 12:25:51 1999
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Forrest,
I am creating virtual ip's on my system, by adding aliases during boot.
But I
can't reach the IP from the machine itself. When trying to connect from
other
hosts, it works!  I can reach the server from other boxes on the network
and the
Internet, but can't just lynx or ping to it from the server itself.

Can you tell me why this happens?

I have more than 100 ip based virtual hosts on a box.
During boot, rc.local evokes:

ifconfig ep0 206.180.151.123 netmask 0xffffffff alias

If I try to ping 206.180.151.123 from the box, it fails and syslog
reports:
Oct 24 21:40:34 TripleCrown /kernel: arplookup 206.180.151.123 failed:
could not
allocate llinfo
Oct 24 21:40:34 TripleCrown /kernel: arplookup 206.180.151.123 failed:
could not
allocate llinfo
Oct 24 21:40:34 TripleCrown /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo
for
206.180.151.123rt
Oct 24 21:40:34 TripleCrown /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo
for
206.180.151.123rt

If I then remove the address from the interface with route -d
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
and then do ifconfig ep0 206.180.151.123 netmask 0xffffffff alias, I can
then
ping the address from the box.


"Forrest W. Christian" wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote:
> 
> > I noticed on another server's box that they alias IP addresses to their
> > loopback interface rather than their Ethernet interface. Is their any
> > benefit/detriment to doing this?
> 
> Here's the rule I use:
> 
> If the IP address you are adding is "Naturally" on the ethernet add it as
> an alias to the Ethernet interface.
> 
> If the IP address is on a different subnet than the Ethernet, add it as an
> alias on the loopback.
> 
> For example, let's say you're doing web hosting.   For a small number of
> hosts, you might just want to use some unused addresses on your ethernet.
> For example if your ethernet is the subnet 192.168.1.0/24 (the entire
> class c) then, you could utilize any of the unused addresses from
> 192.168.1.1 through 192.168.1.254 as a "alias" interface address.  In this
> case, you would add them to the Ethernet interface.
> 
> On the other hand, if you are going to be doing a lot of web hosting (or
> more simply put, more than the ethernet subnet has available) then you
> probably want to set aside another block just for web addresses.   For
> example, 192.168.2.0/24.  In this case, you would add the addresses to the
> Loopback interface.   You will also need to add either a host or a subnet
> route to your router pointing to the ethernet interface on your box.
> 
> For example, my main box is configured as follows:
> 
> bash$ ifconfig -a
> ed1: flags=8a43<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,ALLMULTI,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet 206.127.77.89 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 206.127.77.95
>         inet 206.127.77.81 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 206.127.77.81
>         inet 206.127.77.91 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 206.127.77.91
>         ether 00:00:1b:3c:a5:cc
> lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> tun0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
>         inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
>         inet 206.127.77.129 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.130 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.131 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.132 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.133 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.138 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.139 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.140 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.141 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.142 netmask 0xffffffff
> 
> You could argue what the netmask should be in each case, but I generally
> use the same netmask as the ethernet interface on the aliases added to the
> ethernet, and a "host" netmask of 0xffffffff on the loopback interface.
> 
> Not to confuse the issue, but I believe that if you add an address to the
> loopback out of the range on the ethernet you also need to do some
> proxy-arp configuration (at least you used to).  This is the real reason
> you should add the "ethernet" to the ethernet.  Conversely, if you add
> "loopback" addresses to the ethernet, depending on the subnet and the
> state of the ip forwarding flag in the kernel, you may have interesting
> routing problems such as the machine trying to send packets for the subnet
> but not on the localhost out the ethernet.  (This last paragraph is
> oversimplified- If you'd like a more technically accurate description,
> e-mail me privately).
> 
> - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) KD7EHZ
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Mon Oct 25 12:51:17 1999
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Hi,

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:

> This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
> things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
> happens :-/
> 

 One more problem discovered in Multilink mode: if both links fall down
simultaneusly then, after reconnect, one of the end (usually the oposite
end) gets confused and no replies get sent over the wire. A "down" in the
control prompt gets the situation back to normal (probably because a
renegociation is implied) -- could you please investigate this ?

 Thanks, I'll try the newest version as soon as possible,
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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Vadim Chekan wrote:

> I tryed to run it but there are a problem. New Cyrus uses PAM. But
> non-root user hasn't got permissions to athentificate user by pam_unix.
> I don't know is this a feature or bug. It's possible to use Curus's
> users database.

This is because the passwords themselves are stored in /etc/master.passwd,
which is only readable by root (this is a generic problem with pam_unix on
systems with a "shadow" password file). Your solution is either to make
this file readable by the uid or gid which runs cyrus, or to use another
authentication mechanism.

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From today's installworld:

--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Rebuilding man page indices
--------------------------------------------------------------
cd /usr/src-dist/RUNNING/share/man; /usr/obj/usr/src-dist/RUNNING/tmp/usr/bin/ma
ke makedb
makewhatis /usr/share/man
makewhatis /usr/share/perl/man
make: don't know how to make 2. Stop

What am I doing wrong?  This was from a fresh buildworld.  Thanks.

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Never mind.... user error (blush).

Sorry.


SB

> make: don't know how to make 2. Stop
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  This was from a fresh buildworld.  Thanks.
> 
> SB


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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Seth wrote:

> Never mind.... user error (blush).

Not to directly insult the poster but:

 These seem to be more and more common. I would hope that the
 users/posters of this list would blow away /usr/obj (and removing
 and refetch /usr/src by your prefered method would be even better)
 before posting broken tree messages. Also, don't use -j when providing
 output because that will often (always, really) give really poor
 debugging info.

Several members of the project are currently working to get more publically
consumable information out of the snapshot servers.  jkh suckered me into
looking at a few things today on IRC too.

Stay tuned, but the moral of this e-mail is please be REALLY sure that
something is really broke. 

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I have 3.0-RELEASE and cvsup'ed 3-STABLE last thursday (21th of October), and I tried to build it today (25th), without success.

The only uncommented lines in my /etc/make.conf file are:
CFLAGS= -O -pipe
NOPROFILE=      true

Anyone's got a suggestion?

make buildworld fails with the error message below:



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> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> 
> > This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
> > things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
> > happens :-/
> > 
> 
>  One more problem discovered in Multilink mode: if both links fall down
> simultaneusly then, after reconnect, one of the end (usually the oposite
> end) gets confused and no replies get sent over the wire. A "down" in the
> control prompt gets the situation back to normal (probably because a
> renegociation is implied) -- could you please investigate this ?
> 
>  Thanks, I'll try the newest version as soon as possible,
>  Ady (@warpnet.ro)

Can you send me some relevant logs ?

Cheers.

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On Oct 10,  6:12pm, Tony Finch wrote:
} Subject: Re: merging current's jail functionality to stable
} Don Lewis <Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com> wrote:
} >
} >While I have a need for the jail functionality, I also need a working a
} >working nullfs implementation to use with it.  Somehow I don't thing we'll
} >see a working nullfs in 3.x, so I guess I can wait for 4.x.
} 
} Is this so that you can share the same /usr partition between all the
} jails?

Nope.  I want to mount a read-write subtree in one part of the filesystem
with the processes in a jail (where it will be read-only).  One example
is allowing a jailed user to update a set of html documents in a specific
directory tree, and sharing this directory tree on a read-only basis with
a jailed web server.  I also want to export all the executables to each
jail via read-only mounts without needing lots of tiny partitions.


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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:20:53 MST, "Juan Kuuse" wrote:

> make buildworld fails with the error message below:

You didn't show us the error message. :-)

Before you do, though, how about updating your source tree again and
trying with more recent sources.  This is always a good idea before
assuming that you must have broken something. :-)

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I have my SoundBlaster PCI128 sound card "working" but I'm a bit
confused if the driver is in "stable" condition or just
experimental. It can make sound if I cat a raw sound file
to it but

    # play mysound.aiff
    sox: Unable to sync dsp

This is sox 12.16.

I checked the source and sox assumes the ioctl SNDCTL_DSP_SYNC
is implemented but it is not according to the source in
"/usr/src/sys/pci/es1370.c".

I have seen referenses to "newpcm". Is the sound driver
rewritten but not merged to "stable"?

I suspect there are some advanced dependensis or could
I cvsup the sound system from the "current" branch and
the rest of the system from the "stable" branch? If so,
what should the cvsup collection file look like?

kent


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That's because adding the alias doesn't add in a route on the local machine
to that box.  I ran into this head scratcher myself when I first started
playing with aliasing, so it's not uncommon to ask about this.

Scott Milliken
IMS Health Strategic Technologies

-----Original Message-----
From: David L. Aldridge [mailto:dlac@aldridge.com]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: IP aliasing


Forrest,
I am creating virtual ip's on my system, by adding aliases during boot.
But I
can't reach the IP from the machine itself. When trying to connect from
other
hosts, it works!  I can reach the server from other boxes on the network
and the
Internet, but can't just lynx or ping to it from the server itself.

Can you tell me why this happens?

I have more than 100 ip based virtual hosts on a box.
During boot, rc.local evokes:

ifconfig ep0 206.180.151.123 netmask 0xffffffff alias

If I try to ping 206.180.151.123 from the box, it fails and syslog
reports:
Oct 24 21:40:34 TripleCrown /kernel: arplookup 206.180.151.123 failed:
could not
allocate llinfo
Oct 24 21:40:34 TripleCrown /kernel: arplookup 206.180.151.123 failed:
could not
allocate llinfo
Oct 24 21:40:34 TripleCrown /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo
for
206.180.151.123rt
Oct 24 21:40:34 TripleCrown /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo
for
206.180.151.123rt

If I then remove the address from the interface with route -d
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
and then do ifconfig ep0 206.180.151.123 netmask 0xffffffff alias, I can
then
ping the address from the box.


"Forrest W. Christian" wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote:
> 
> > I noticed on another server's box that they alias IP addresses to their
> > loopback interface rather than their Ethernet interface. Is their any
> > benefit/detriment to doing this?
> 
> Here's the rule I use:
> 
> If the IP address you are adding is "Naturally" on the ethernet add it as
> an alias to the Ethernet interface.
> 
> If the IP address is on a different subnet than the Ethernet, add it as an
> alias on the loopback.
> 
> For example, let's say you're doing web hosting.   For a small number of
> hosts, you might just want to use some unused addresses on your ethernet.
> For example if your ethernet is the subnet 192.168.1.0/24 (the entire
> class c) then, you could utilize any of the unused addresses from
> 192.168.1.1 through 192.168.1.254 as a "alias" interface address.  In this
> case, you would add them to the Ethernet interface.
> 
> On the other hand, if you are going to be doing a lot of web hosting (or
> more simply put, more than the ethernet subnet has available) then you
> probably want to set aside another block just for web addresses.   For
> example, 192.168.2.0/24.  In this case, you would add the addresses to the
> Loopback interface.   You will also need to add either a host or a subnet
> route to your router pointing to the ethernet interface on your box.
> 
> For example, my main box is configured as follows:
> 
> bash$ ifconfig -a
> ed1: flags=8a43<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,ALLMULTI,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet 206.127.77.89 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 206.127.77.95
>         inet 206.127.77.81 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 206.127.77.81
>         inet 206.127.77.91 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 206.127.77.91
>         ether 00:00:1b:3c:a5:cc
> lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> tun0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
>         inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
>         inet 206.127.77.129 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.130 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.131 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.132 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.133 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.138 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.139 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.140 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.141 netmask 0xffffffff
>         inet 206.127.77.142 netmask 0xffffffff
> 
> You could argue what the netmask should be in each case, but I generally
> use the same netmask as the ethernet interface on the aliases added to the
> ethernet, and a "host" netmask of 0xffffffff on the loopback interface.
> 
> Not to confuse the issue, but I believe that if you add an address to the
> loopback out of the range on the ethernet you also need to do some
> proxy-arp configuration (at least you used to).  This is the real reason
> you should add the "ethernet" to the ethernet.  Conversely, if you add
> "loopback" addresses to the ethernet, depending on the subnet and the
> state of the ip forwarding flag in the kernel, you may have interesting
> routing problems such as the machine trying to send packets for the subnet
> but not on the localhost out the ethernet.  (This last paragraph is
> oversimplified- If you'd like a more technically accurate description,
> e-mail me privately).
> 
> - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) KD7EHZ
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Tue Oct 26 10:46:56 1999
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Hi,

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:

> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > 
> > > This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
> > > things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
> > > happens :-/
> > > 
> > 
> >  One more problem discovered in Multilink mode: if both links fall down
> > simultaneusly then, after reconnect, one of the end (usually the oposite
> > end) gets confused and no replies get sent over the wire. A "down" in the
> > control prompt gets the situation back to normal (probably because a
> > renegociation is implied) -- could you please investigate this ?
> > 
> >  Thanks, I'll try the newest version as soon as possible,
> >  Ady (@warpnet.ro)
> 
> Can you send me some relevant logs ?

 Can't find any interesting things in the logs, but the situation is
easily reproductible, see above. Any hints what log levels I should be
watching ?

 One thing is sure: forcing a renegociation through "down" (including a 
"reset" at the mp level) gets things back to normal.

> 
> Cheers.
> 

 Thanks,



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I've got a Linksys lne100tx 10/100 card connected to a Kingston 5 
port 10/100 autosensing switch. The card uses the mx driver. If I 
have it connected to the switch during boot, I get a panic and 
auto-reboot message during the negotiation phase (during the part of 
the boot process with the highlighted text -- early on). If I boot 
with the card unplugged, it comes up fine, and can auto-negotiate at 
that point with no problems once plugged in (100Mbit/Full-duplex). 
Been happening since 3.3R. Last update via CVSUP was Friday, Oct 22.

Anyone else seeing similar?

Thanks,
jon

PS -- I guess that's what I get for using a $9 NIC. :->


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Are you specifying which media to use?  Try forcing the media speed at
100M or 10M, depending on your needs, to see if it eliminates the panic.

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On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jon Rust wrote:

> I've got a Linksys lne100tx 10/100 card connected to a Kingston 5 
> port 10/100 autosensing switch. The card uses the mx driver. If I 
> have it connected to the switch during boot, I get a panic and 
> auto-reboot message during the negotiation phase (during the part of 
> the boot process with the highlighted text -- early on). If I boot 
> with the card unplugged, it comes up fine, and can auto-negotiate at 
> that point with no problems once plugged in (100Mbit/Full-duplex). 
> Been happening since 3.3R. Last update via CVSUP was Friday, Oct 22.
> 
> Anyone else seeing similar?
> 
> Thanks,
> jon
> 
> PS -- I guess that's what I get for using a $9 NIC. :->
> 
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One of my 3.3-stable boxes has two mx cards in it. one auto-negotiates
100mbit half-duplex with lynksys 100mbit 8 port hub, the other 10mbit
half-duplex with a terapro cable modem. I have never had any problem with
either.

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[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jon Rust
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Subject: mx0: crash during kernel load


I've got a Linksys lne100tx 10/100 card connected to a Kingston 5
port 10/100 autosensing switch. The card uses the mx driver. If I
have it connected to the switch during boot, I get a panic and
auto-reboot message during the negotiation phase (during the part of
the boot process with the highlighted text -- early on). If I boot
with the card unplugged, it comes up fine, and can auto-negotiate at
that point with no problems once plugged in (100Mbit/Full-duplex).
Been happening since 3.3R. Last update via CVSUP was Friday, Oct 22.

Anyone else seeing similar?

Thanks,
jon

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Vadim Chekan wrote:
> 
> Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote:
> > However, I think that the CYRUS IMAP server is somewhat nicer than IMAP-UW.
> > Is anybody looking at updating the port ?
> 
> I tryed to run it but there are a problem. New Cyrus uses PAM. But
> non-root user hasn't got permissions to athentificate user by pam_unix.
> I don't know is this a feature or bug. It's possible to use Curus's
> users database.
> 
> Vadim Chekan.


We run a postfix+cyrus box here, and in sort, you'll have to wait for
the pwcheck module to be re-included in the 1.6.X series to really use
it inder FreeBSD I've found some other bugs/annoyances in 1.6.x, so
thats why we went back to 1.5.x.. However, if you really want to get
1.6.x to work under FreeBSD..

The culprit for the fowled authentication (-13) is this line in
/usr/src/lib/libc/gen/getpwent.c:

         p = (geteuid()) ? _PATH_MP_DB : _PATH_SMP_DB;

What happens is the pam module (or if you tell it to use the shadow
type) tries to do getpwent() as a non-root user, and getpwent() then
hands it the password database file the has no passwords (/etc/pwd.db)
because it's euid is not 0. (It's cyrus). 

The simple fix for it (the horrible hack we did) was to give getpwent()
a more SYSV mentality, and check if the process could open /etc/spwd.db,
otherwise, hand it /etc/pwd.db. I'm not altogether sure why this is not
the behaviour in BSD (while it is a little more secure, it does not lend
much to security). Then of course, you would change /etc/spwd.db so that
cyrus has read access to it. (not write). 

Beware that every time the database is rebuilt you would have to re-give
permissions to cyrus to read the password database. Dealing with hacks
like this was a little too much for us, so we wimped out and went back
to 1.5.x. 

The downside is if someone was to crack cyrus, they would get *READ
ACCESS* to the password file. But if you think about it, if someone was
to crack pwcheck running as root, they would get *ROOT ACCESS*. 

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> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
> > > > things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
> > > > happens :-/
> > > > 
> > > 
> > >  One more problem discovered in Multilink mode: if both links fall down
> > > simultaneusly then, after reconnect, one of the end (usually the oposite
> > > end) gets confused and no replies get sent over the wire. A "down" in the
> > > control prompt gets the situation back to normal (probably because a
> > > renegociation is implied) -- could you please investigate this ?
> > > 
> > >  Thanks, I'll try the newest version as soon as possible,
> > >  Ady (@warpnet.ro)
> > 
> > Can you send me some relevant logs ?
> 
>  Can't find any interesting things in the logs, but the situation is
> easily reproductible, see above. Any hints what log levels I should be
> watching ?
> 
>  One thing is sure: forcing a renegociation through "down" (including a 
> "reset" at the mp level) gets things back to normal.

And is this with the latest version from my web site ?

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Hi,

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:

> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > 
> > > >  One more problem discovered in Multilink mode: if both links fall down
> > > > simultaneusly then, after reconnect, one of the end (usually the oposite
> > > > end) gets confused and no replies get sent over the wire. A "down" in the
> > > > control prompt gets the situation back to normal (probably because a
> > > > renegociation is implied) -- could you please investigate this ?
> > > > 
> > > >  Thanks, I'll try the newest version as soon as possible,
> > > >  Ady (@warpnet.ro)
> > > 
> > > Can you send me some relevant logs ?
> > 
> >  Can't find any interesting things in the logs, but the situation is
> > easily reproductible, see above. Any hints what log levels I should be
> > watching ?
> > 
> >  One thing is sure: forcing a renegociation through "down" (including a 
> > "reset" at the mp level) gets things back to normal.
> 
> And is this with the latest version from my web site ?

 Yes (991025). Once again, what should I do to trace the source of the
problem, solving this issue is pretty important for it's used in
production here...

> 
> -- 
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> 
> 

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 Ady (@warpnet.ro)



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Hi again,

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Adrian Penisoara wrote:

> > And is this with the latest version from my web site ?
> 
>  Yes (991025). Once again, what should I do to trace the source of the
> problem, solving this issue is pretty important for it's used in
> production here...
> 

 Oh, and another thing: the client accuses that every few hours the
traffics starts to slow down up to the point where he needs to restart the
PPP process -- this I can't very well trace but it may be related to what
I told you...

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Be sure to reply to that address.

Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:09:28 CST, Juan Kuuse wrote:
> 
> > Today I updated the source tree, on this 3.0-RELEASE box, and I did the
> > same on a 3.1-RELEASE box.
> 
> What sources are you fetching? RELENG_3?

Yes, RELENG_3. 
Extracts from my cvsup config file (the standard stable-supfile):
# IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites
# listed at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html.
*default host=cvsup1.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
# The following line is for 3-stable.  If you want 2.2-stable, change
# "RELENG_3" to "RELENG_2_2".
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
*default delete use-rel-suffix
# If your network link is a T1 or faster, comment out the following line.
*default compress
## Main Source Tree.
#
# The easiest way to get the main source tree is to use the "src-all"
# mega-collection.  It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections,
# except the export-restricted collections.
src-all


> I'm not really sure what the
> problem is. Are you using NOCLEAN perhaps?

No. I just follow the instructions in "Making the world your own" tutorial (by Nik Clayton).
When I come to the point "Check your /etc/make.conf file", I just 
* uncomment the following two lines:
  CFLAGS= -O -pipe
  NOPROFILE=      true
* check /etc/group (group "bind" had to be added 3.0-RELEASE )
* drop into single user mode
* cd to /usr/obj
* chflags - R noschg *
* rm -rf *
* cd /usr/src
* script /var/tmp/mw.out
* make buildworld  :(
where things go bad (the error message I sent to you, lots of warnings excluded):

function `localtime'
/usr/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:140: warning: passing arg 2 of
`in_ltm' makes pointer from integer without a cast
/usr/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c: In function `in_lts':
/usr/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:159: warning: passing arg 2 of
`in_ltms' makes pointer from integer without a cast
*** Error code 1

Stop.


> Has anyone else managed to
> help you with this?
Nope. You're the first kind soul.

> 
> Ciao,
> Sheldon.

cu,
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Subject: Buildworld dies trying to compile "bc"
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The past few days I've been struggling to "make buildworld" successfully.

My current platform is 3.3-stable (updated a couple of weeks ago), and I
cvsuped all the latest sources in the last couple of days to keep up to
date.  Buildworld chokes about 12 minutes into the make, while trying to
compile the program "bc", with the following messages (see below).

I've been careful to remove /usr/obj and I even blew away /usr/src and
download the src tree anew.

My Hardware:
HP Kayak XU 6/300
Dual Pentium II 300Mhz
64 MB Ram
SCSI drives on adaptec 7880

Any ideas why this is happening?


Thanks,

Paul Magwene
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output of script:
----------------

/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/load.c: In function
`addbyte':
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/load.c:58: `had_error'
undeclared (first use this function)
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/main.c:52: `compile_only'
undeclared here (not in a function)
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/load.c:58: (Each undeclared
identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/main.c:52: initializer
element for `long_options[0].flag' is not constant
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/execute.c: In function
`byte':
(first use this function)
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/main.c:94: `interactive'
undeclared (first use this function)

*** many errors snipped ***

/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/storage.c:1015: `ex_stack'
undeclared (first use this function)
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/storage.c:1034: `arrays'
undeclared (first use this function)
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/storage.c:1053: `a_names'
undeclared (first use this function)
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bc/../../../contrib/bc/bc/storage.c:1056: `v_names'
undeclared (first use this function)
*** Error code 1
6 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error

real 13m27.269s
user 10m17.601s
sys 6m2.990s
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> cd /usr/src-dist/RUNNING/share/man; /usr/obj/usr/src-dist/RUNNING/tmp/usr/bin/ma
> ke makedb
> makewhatis /usr/share/man
> makewhatis /usr/share/perl/man
> make: don't know how to make 2. Stop
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  This was from a fresh buildworld.  Thanks.

lemme guess, your command line went like:

make buildworld 2>&1 > logfile

That would be fine if you weren't using C-shell at the time  ;)

Cheers,

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Dear Stable, knowlegable FreeBSDusers,

    I am trying to install the free (from sun.com) Star Office 51
for linux, on my FreeBSD 3.3 system.  My system runs at least one
complex linux binary.

    The file /cdrom/linux/office51/README
says I am going to need

    libc-2.0.7.so and libthread-0.7.so (glibc-2.0.7-7-7.i386.rpm)

    The first item seems to be in the CD in the misc/ directory.

    I can't find the glibc-2.0..7-7-7.i386.rpm anywhere.  I keep 
getting lost on the redhat.com web site.

    The setup* program complains that I need libvos517li.so

    Can anyone please advise me how to successfully install
    (on FreeBSD 3.3)
Star Office 5.1a from the $9.95 CD that sun.com does send out?

    Thanks for any advice,

Wayne M Barnes      stabilizer@klentaq.com



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Wayne M Barnes wrote:
> 
> Dear Stable, knowlegable FreeBSDusers,
> 
>     I am trying to install the free (from sun.com) Star Office 51
> for linux, on my FreeBSD 3.3 system.  My system runs at least one
> complex linux binary.
> 

<SNIP>

> 
>     Can anyone please advise me how to successfully install
>     (on FreeBSD 3.3)
> Star Office 5.1a from the $9.95 CD that sun.com does send out?
> 

	Just this afternoon I installed Star Office on a 3.3-STABLE box.  I'm
not sure of the exact version of Star Office though, I downloaded it
from Sun's web site this afternoon.  The instructions that I used can be
found at :

http://www.stat.duke.edu/~sto/StarOffice51a/install.html

I found these instructions to be right on the money and the install went
with out any problems.  I haven't really had a chance to use it much,
just played a little, but so far so good.  It looks like I owe Sean
O'Connell a thank you.

Joseph Scott
joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu
Water Programs - CSU Sacramento


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Joseph Scott once stated:

=http://www.stat.duke.edu/~sto/StarOffice51a/install.html
=
=I found  these instructions to  be right on  the money and  the install
=went with  out any problems.  I haven't really had  a chance to  use it
=much, just  played a little, but  so far so  good. It looks like  I owe
=Sean O'Connell a thank you.

"Me too", except  that whenever I start SO, the  message pops up telling
me  about  its  inability  to  load "Plugin  Manager".  I  hit  Ok,  and
everything seems to work...

	-mi


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On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Joseph Scott wrote:

> from Sun's web site this afternoon.  The instructions that I used can be
> found at :

> http://www.stat.duke.edu/~sto/StarOffice51a/install.html

> I found these instructions to be right on the money and the install went

One note with these instructions.  You don't need to use Warren Toomey's
script.  The version from Sun has multiuser or "net" enabled so you can
just do a "setup /net" to install.

Carl.




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Mikhail Teterin wrote:
> "Me too", except  that whenever I start SO, the  message pops up telling
> me  about  its  inability  to  load "Plugin  Manager".  I  hit  Ok,  and
> everything seems to work...
> 
>         -mi

	I don't even have that.  As far as I can tell ( keep in mind I've only
used it for a few minutes so far ) it runs just fine.  The only thing
that may be of note is the Java support.  Someone mentioned that we may
need to use the Linux Java in order for that to happen.  However I'm not
exactly a huge fan of Java, so unless having Java support adds some
great features I don't really miss the Java support.  Besides, Star
Office is a pig as it is, I don't think it needs any more help in that
area :-)

Joseph Scott
joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu
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Carl Makin wrote:
> 
> > http://www.stat.duke.edu/~sto/StarOffice51a/install.html
> 
> One note with these instructions.  You don't need to use Warren Toomey's
> script.  The version from Sun has multiuser or "net" enabled so you can
> just do a "setup /net" to install.
> 

	Yep, in the instructions above that's what they have you do.  Looks
like I've got around 3 meg in my home dir for Star Office.

Joseph Scott
joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu
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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

: "Me too", except  that whenever I start SO, the  message pops up telling
: me  about  its  inability  to  load "Plugin  Manager".  I  hit  Ok,  and
: everything seems to work...

Did you replace applicat.rdb with the version given at the site?
(Step 1 of "Cleaning up after the installation" details how, and
is supposed to resolve the plugin manager complaint.)

Matt Behrens <matt@zigg.com>
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Thanks  to  everybody  for  pointing  me back  to  the  SO  installation
instructions for the .rdb file.

Now  I  have another  problem  with  it. I  tried  to  send e-mail  with
StarMail. I specified localhost as my  SMTP server typed an SMTP address
and a  one-line content and  hit send (the little  button at the  top of
mail-frame). Now the entire soffice.bin is hung:

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
[...]
29904 mi       -18   0 55196K 28984K thrd_s   0:26  0.00%  0.00% soffice.bin
[...]

It does not repaint its window. Killing it (including -9) does not work.
The mail message never reached the sendmail-daemon.

And not only that, but `ps -ax'  hangs too! Although plain `ps' is fine.
Other programs seem to function Ok.

Swap usage  was at 70% so  I exited Netscape and  now it is at  54%. The
machine is PII-350 with 128Mb RAM and 128Mb of swap.

Something in the Linux mode/emulation?

	-mi


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=Now  I  have another  problem  with  it. I  tried  to  send e-mail  with
=StarMail. I specified localhost as my  SMTP server typed an SMTP address
=and a  one-line content and  hit send (the little  button at the  top of
=mail-frame). Now the entire soffice.bin is hung:
=
=  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
=[...]
=29904 mi       -18   0 55196K 28984K thrd_s   0:26  0.00%  0.00% soffice.bin
=[...]

After  closer  examination of  top,  I  found several  more  soffice.bin
processes  (29904 29919  29921 29988  29989 29990)  -- all  in the  same
state, all unkillable.

=It does not repaint its window. Killing it (including -9) does not work.
=The mail message never reached the sendmail-daemon.
=
=And not only that, but `ps -ax'  hangs too! Although plain `ps' is fine.
=Other programs seem to function Ok.

	-mi


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I get the following error when trying to compile proftpd-1.2.8pre8, anybody
have this error or know how to fix it?

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usr/
local/var/proftpd\" -DFREEBSD3_3 -DFREEBSD3 -I.. -I../include -c ident.c
gcc -g -O2  -DCONFIG_FILE_PATH=\"/usr/local/etc/proftpd.conf\" -DRUN_DIR=\"/
usr/
local/var/proftpd\" -DFREEBSD3_3 -DFREEBSD3 -I.. -I../include -c data.c
data.c: In function `data_sendfile':
data.c:535: warning: passing arg 3 of `sendfile' makes integer from pointer
with
out a cast
data.c:535: too few arguments to function `sendfile'
gmake[1]: *** [data.o] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/poseiden/proftpd-1.2.0pre8/src'
gmake: *** [src] Error 2
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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:

: I get the following error when trying to compile proftpd-1.2.8pre8, anybody
: have this error or know how to fix it?
[.snip.]

Have you considered installing ProFTPD from the ports? It resides in,
/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd. Don't let the hard work of others who port
everything they get their hands on to FreeBSD for the ports tree, it's
a wonderful thing, and really is a major benefit. =)

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The FreeBSD port knows how to deal with this problem.

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On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 01:03:33PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
> I get the following error when trying to compile proftpd-1.2.8pre8, anybody
> have this error or know how to fix it?
> 
> gcc -g -O2  -DCONFIG_FILE_PATH=\"/usr/local/etc/proftpd.conf\" -DRUN_DIR=\"/
> usr/
> local/var/proftpd\" -DFREEBSD3_3 -DFREEBSD3 -I.. -I../include -c ident.c
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> usr/
> local/var/proftpd\" -DFREEBSD3_3 -DFREEBSD3 -I.. -I../include -c data.c
> data.c: In function `data_sendfile':
> data.c:535: warning: passing arg 3 of `sendfile' makes integer from pointer
> with
> out a cast
> data.c:535: too few arguments to function `sendfile'
> gmake[1]: *** [data.o] Error 1
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> gmake: *** [src] Error 2
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> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
> > > > things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
> > > > happens :-/
> > > > 
> > > 
> > >  One more problem discovered in Multilink mode: if both links fall down
> > > simultaneusly then, after reconnect, one of the end (usually the oposite
> > > end) gets confused and no replies get sent over the wire. A "down" in the
> > > control prompt gets the situation back to normal (probably because a
> > > renegociation is implied) -- could you please investigate this ?
> > > 
> > >  Thanks, I'll try the newest version as soon as possible,
> > >  Ady (@warpnet.ro)
> > 
> > Can you send me some relevant logs ?
> 
>  Can't find any interesting things in the logs, but the situation is
> easily reproductible, see above. Any hints what log levels I should be
> watching ?
> 
>  One thing is sure: forcing a renegociation through "down" (including a 
> "reset" at the mp level) gets things back to normal.

I think I'm misunderstanding at least some of the problem.  I'm 
assuming the following:  You have a two-link ppp session with ppp(8) 
running in -direct mode.  You then reset both modems and ppp exits.  
The client dials again (twice) and has problems establishing the 
connection because no ``replies'' are sent by one side or the other.

What sort of replies are we talking about here ?  If they're LCP or 
IPCP replies, I need a log with something like

  set log command lcp ipcp phase

If they're missing ``replies'' from the application level, then

  set log command lcp ipcp phase tcp/ip

would be more in order.

ady@warpnet.ro said:
>  Oh, and another thing: the client accuses that every few hours the
> traffics starts to slow down up to the point where he needs to restart
> the PPP process -- this I can't very well trace but it may be related
> to what I told you... 

This sounds like a modem that likes to renegotiate the link speed 
when the line gets bad but never renegotiates up.  I would suggest 
doing some tests with the pings' round trip times.

> > Cheers.
> > 
> 
>  Thanks,

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Is there a reason why 'uname -p' always reports 'i386'?

Helping someone with a cross-platform system-info script, I notice that
Linux kicks out i586 for Pentium-class CPUs, and i686 for Pentium-II class
chips.  'sysctl hw.machine' does the same.  

I'll point him to 'sysctl hw.model' instead.

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On 1999-Oct-29 08:56:47 +1000, Randall Hopper wrote:
>Is there a reason why 'uname -p' always reports 'i386'?

As I understand it, "uname -p" (and "uname -m") are intended to
report a generic platform architecture (i386 vs Alpha), rather
than the specific CPU variant.

>Linux kicks out i586 for Pentium-class CPUs,

Against which Solaris reports `sparc' and Digital UNIX reports `alpha',
rather than the specific processor variant.

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Peter Jeremy:
 |On 1999-Oct-29 08:56:47 +1000, Randall Hopper wrote:
 |>Is there a reason why 'uname -p' always reports 'i386'?
 |
 |As I understand it, "uname -p" (and "uname -m") are intended to
 |report a generic platform architecture (i386 vs Alpha), rather
 |than the specific CPU variant.
 |
 |>Linux kicks out i586 for Pentium-class CPUs,
 |
 |Against which Solaris reports `sparc' and Digital UNIX reports `alpha',
 |rather than the specific processor variant.

Ok, makes sense.  

Do you know the correct way is for software to inquire about the CPU
installed?  We don't have cat /proc/cpuinfo.  And sysctl hw.model is still
pretty generic:

    hw.model: AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor

Surely not:

    > dmesg | grep '^CPU:'
    CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor (399.81-MHz 586-class CPU)

as that doesn't work if too many errors have spewed into syslog.
FWIW, I have an AMD K6-III, though FreeBSD doesn't know it.

Randall


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On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 07:49:46PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote:

> Surely not:
> 
>     > dmesg | grep '^CPU:'
>     CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor (399.81-MHz 586-class CPU)
> 
> as that doesn't work if too many errors have spewed into syslog.
> FWIW, I have an AMD K6-III, though FreeBSD doesn't know it.

The boot messages are recorded in /var/run/dmesg.boot.

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On 1999-Oct-29 09:49:46 +1000, Randall Hopper wrote:
>Do you know the correct way is for software to inquire about the CPU
>installed?

sysctl hw.model

What more do you want to know about it?  From memory there's been some
discussion about how to report CPU features (probably via an
additional sysctl), but I'm not sure what's happened.  There's nothing
in -current yet, so it'll be a while before there's anything in
-stable.

>FWIW, I have an AMD K6-III, though FreeBSD doesn't know it.
Probably because there's nothing in the kernel that needs to know.

There's code in src/sys/i386/i386/identcpu.c in -current to
recognize the K6-III.

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Matthew Hunt:
 |On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 07:49:46PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote:
 |
 |> Surely not:
 |> 
 |>     > dmesg | grep '^CPU:'
 |>     CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor (399.81-MHz 586-class CPU)
 |> 
 |> as that doesn't work if too many errors have spewed into syslog.
 |> FWIW, I have an AMD K6-III, though FreeBSD doesn't know it.
 |
 |The boot messages are recorded in /var/run/dmesg.boot.

I didn't know that.  Thanks.

Randall


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Peter Jeremy:
 |On 1999-Oct-29 09:49:46 +1000, Randall Hopper wrote:
 |>Do you know the correct way is for software to inquire about the CPU
 |>installed?
 |
 |sysctl hw.model
 |
 |What more do you want to know about it?  From memory there's been some

For reporting to or warning the user, everything :-)

But to use for making software decisions: 3DNow Y/N, MMX Y/N, SSE Y/N.  You
touch on that below.

Thanks,

Randall


 |discussion about how to report CPU features (probably via an
 |additional sysctl), but I'm not sure what's happened.  There's nothing
 |in -current yet, so it'll be a while before there's anything in
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>> 3.3-stable as of 99.10.23
>> smp
>> wl0 wavelan isa card
>> gets
>>     Oct 24 03:04:00 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: ERRs a269
>>     Oct 24 03:04:17 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: ERRs a7da
>>     Oct 24 03:04:17 rip /kernel: wl0 RCV: !OK 9803
>> and the box locks up.  or sometimes just the wl0 locks up and an ifconfig
>> down/up wakes it up.
>> if i do not use the wl0 from a remote i do not see the crashes.  the system
>> seems stable otherwise.
> confirmed with a complete resup and rebuild.  disable wl0 and it is stable.
> enable and it soon dies.

so i suspected hardware, and replaced the wavelan card.  identical result,
it still fails, locks up the machine.

i tried 4.0-current.  it works.

i suspect wl does not work in -stable.  is anybody successful with it?

randy


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Hi,

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:

> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
> > > > > things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
> > > > > happens :-/
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  One more problem discovered in Multilink mode: if both links fall down
> > > > simultaneusly then, after reconnect, one of the end (usually the oposite
> > > > end) gets confused and no replies get sent over the wire. A "down" in the
> > > > control prompt gets the situation back to normal (probably because a
> > > > renegociation is implied) -- could you please investigate this ?
> > > > 
> > > >  Thanks, I'll try the newest version as soon as possible,
> > > >  Ady (@warpnet.ro)
> > > 
> > > Can you send me some relevant logs ?
> > 
> >  Can't find any interesting things in the logs, but the situation is
> > easily reproductible, see above. Any hints what log levels I should be
> > watching ?
> > 
> >  One thing is sure: forcing a renegociation through "down" (including a 
> > "reset" at the mp level) gets things back to normal.
> 
> I think I'm misunderstanding at least some of the problem.  I'm 
> assuming the following:  You have a two-link ppp session with ppp(8) 
> running in -direct mode.

 Correct up to here...

  You then reset both modems and ppp exits.  
> The client dials again (twice) and has problems establishing the 
> connection because no ``replies'' are sent by one side or the other.

 Nope: On one end the carriers on both links go down (for example a wire
cut) and then the links is reestablished but almost no packets get sent
through. This is fixed only with a 'down' at the control prompt.

> 
> What sort of replies are we talking about here ?  If they're LCP or 
> IPCP replies, I need a log with something like
> 
>   set log command lcp ipcp phase
> 
> If they're missing ``replies'' from the application level, then
> 
>   set log command lcp ipcp phase tcp/ip
> 
> would be more in order.

 I'll check it out closely again, with full logging.

> 
> ady@warpnet.ro said:
> >  Oh, and another thing: the client accuses that every few hours the
> > traffics starts to slow down up to the point where he needs to restart
> > the PPP process -- this I can't very well trace but it may be related
> > to what I told you... 
> 
> This sounds like a modem that likes to renegotiate the link speed 
> when the line gets bad but never renegotiates up.  I would suggest 
> doing some tests with the pings' round trip times.

 Nope, the carriers stay online all the time !


 Thanks, I'll get back to you later,
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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Randy Bush wrote:
> i suspect wl does not work in -stable.  is anybody successful with it?

I don't know about stable, but I know it works in 3.3-RELEASE.

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>> i suspect wl does not work in -stable.  is anybody successful with it?
> I don't know about stable, but I know it works in 3.3-RELEASE.

great.  then i have screwed up somehow.  i do not think i changed anything
from how it ran in 4.0-current, but i must have.  but what?

symptom is i can use it for a little while and then the system freezes.
so the basic configuration is correct, i.e. i am driving the hardware.

so i am at a loss as to where to start looking.  clues begged.

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On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Randy Bush wrote:
> great.  then i have screwed up somehow.  i do not think i changed anything
> from how it ran in 4.0-current, but i must have.  but what?
> 
> symptom is i can use it for a little while and then the system freezes.
> so the basic configuration is correct, i.e. i am driving the hardware.

I do have to mention that I did not do a great deal of testing, I had the
card in the box for about a day and in that time I did not notice anything
weird (no messages on the console and no noticeble performance loss). So
it could be that if I ran for a longer time, problems would trip up.

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Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au> wrote:

> As I understand it, "uname -p" (and "uname -m") are intended to
> report a generic platform architecture (i386 vs Alpha), rather
> than the specific CPU variant.

The OpenBSD people seem to think otherwise. There "uname -p" gives the
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After having upgraded my systems from FBSD 3.2R to FBSD 3.3S via cvsup

with
src-all

and for export restricted files
src-crypto, src-eBones, src-secure

I wanted to upgrade with command make buildworld in /usr/src.

But following error output was produced:
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c: In function
`crypt':
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c:62: warning:
unused variable `j'
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level:
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c:14: warning:
`rcsid' defined but not used
make: don't know how to make crypt-md5.c. Stop
*** Error code 2

Could someone please help me fix that problem. Thanx in advance.

Markus

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Markus,

Make sure you use `secure-stable-supfile' and not `secure-supfile'.
Then run cvsup again and try to buildworld.

On Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 05:15:37PM +0200, Markus Minihold wrote:
> After having upgraded my systems from FBSD 3.2R to FBSD 3.3S via cvsup
> 
> with
> src-all
> 
> and for export restricted files
> src-crypto, src-eBones, src-secure
> 
> I wanted to upgrade with command make buildworld in /usr/src.
> 
> But following error output was produced:
> /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c: In function
> `crypt':
> /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c:62: warning:
> unused variable `j'
> /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c: At top
> level:
> /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c:14: warning:
> `rcsid' defined but not used
> make: don't know how to make crypt-md5.c. Stop
> *** Error code 2
> 
> Could someone please help me fix that problem. Thanx in advance.
> 
> Markus

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Ruslan,

thanx for your immediate help. It was my fault. I have used
secure-supfile instead of secure-stable-supfile.

I'm now compiling world and the process has passed libcrypt.

Markus

Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> 
> Markus,
> 
> Make sure you use `secure-stable-supfile' and not `secure-supfile'.
> Then run cvsup again and try to buildworld.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 05:15:37PM +0200, Markus Minihold wrote:
> > After having upgraded my systems from FBSD 3.2R to FBSD 3.3S via cvsup
> >
> > with
> > src-all
> >
> > and for export restricted files
> > src-crypto, src-eBones, src-secure
> >
> > I wanted to upgrade with command make buildworld in /usr/src.
> >
> > But following error output was produced:
> > /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c: In function
> > `crypt':
> > /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c:62: warning:
> > unused variable `j'
> > /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c: At top
> > level:
> > /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c:14: warning:
> > `rcsid' defined but not used
> > make: don't know how to make crypt-md5.c. Stop
> > *** Error code 2
> >
> > Could someone please help me fix that problem. Thanx in advance.
> >
> > Markus
> 
> --
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===> share/doc/psd/19.curses^M
/usr/libexec/vfontedpr
/usr/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurse
s/PSD.doc/ex1.c | grep -v "^'wh" > ex1.gr^M
no entry for language c^M
*** Error code 1

I have been having this trouble lately. I pulled down a whole new source
tree last night. It is probably something misconfigured. Any ideas how I
can fix this?

Thank You, 	| http://students.washington.edu/jcwells/
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I just got my boss moved over to FreeBSD from Windows, and we're having a
terrible time with X and mice ...

She has a PII system, and we've tried both a Logitech Mouseman and
MicroSoft Inteellimouse...we have her box hooked up through a console
switch, since, for now, she needs to shre her mouse/monitor/keyboard with
her old Microsoft machine...

If I reboot the machine and bring up X, no problems...if I switch to
Microsfot and back again, it starts to generate:

psmintr: out of sync (#### != ####)

error messages ...

I did a quick search through the archives, and found:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=293190+294613+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-questions/19990704.freebsd-questions

But there doesn't appear to have been any resolution to the problem, or at
least none posted publicly...

The kernel is 3.3-STABLE as of yesterday, with a full 'make world'
done...with the following defining the PSM device:

# atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
controller      atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty
device          atkbd0  at isa? tty irq 1
device          psm0    at isa? tty irq 12

I've used FreeBSD/X with a switch before, but with older kernels, and have
never seen this...

Solutions much appreciated...even suggestions? :)

Thanks...


Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
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>> great.  then i have screwed up somehow.  i do not think i changed anything
>> from how it ran in 4.0-current, but i must have.  but what?
>> 
>> symptom is i can use it for a little while and then the system freezes.
>> so the basic configuration is correct, i.e. i am driving the hardware.
> 
> I do have to mention that I did not do a great deal of testing, I had the
> card in the box for about a day and in that time I did not notice anything
> weird (no messages on the console and no noticeble performance loss). So
> it could be that if I ran for a longer time, problems would trip up.

i think i fixed it.  i rebuilt all ports, including things like bind and
gated.  it's only been a few hours, but no crash.

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On Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 01:51:34PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> I just got my boss moved over to FreeBSD from Windows, and we're having a
> terrible time with X and mice ...
> 
> She has a PII system, and we've tried both a Logitech Mouseman and
> MicroSoft Inteellimouse...we have her box hooked up through a console
> switch, since, for now, she needs to shre her mouse/monitor/keyboard with
> her old Microsoft machine...
> 
> If I reboot the machine and bring up X, no problems...if I switch to
> Microsfot and back again, it starts to generate:
> 
> psmintr: out of sync (#### != ####)
> 
> error messages ...

If you have a good smart switch you may be able to reset the mouse and
bring it back into sync.  For instance my Black Box switch lets me reset
the mouse with "Ctl Ctl M W" which usually fixes the sync problems.  I
believe that serial mice will often resync if you unplug them and then
plug them back in.  That won't work with PS/2 mice though (at least I
don't think it will, the last real PS/2s I used would require a power
cycle after pulling the mouse).  If your switch can't handle it then
you'll probably have to get a new one.

-- Brooks


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> On Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 01:51:34PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > 
> > I just got my boss moved over to FreeBSD from Windows, and we're having a
> > terrible time with X and mice ...
> > 
> > She has a PII system, and we've tried both a Logitech Mouseman and
> > MicroSoft Inteellimouse...we have her box hooked up through a console
> > switch, since, for now, she needs to shre her mouse/monitor/keyboard with
> > her old Microsoft machine...
> > 
> > If I reboot the machine and bring up X, no problems...if I switch to
> > Microsfot and back again, it starts to generate:
> > 
> > psmintr: out of sync (#### != ####)
> > 
> > error messages ...
> 
> If you have a good smart switch you may be able to reset the mouse and
> bring it back into sync.  For instance my Black Box switch lets me reset
> the mouse with "Ctl Ctl M W" which usually fixes the sync problems.  I
> believe that serial mice will often resync if you unplug them and then
> plug them back in.  That won't work with PS/2 mice though (at least I
> don't think it will, the last real PS/2s I used would require a power
> cycle after pulling the mouse).  If your switch can't handle it then
> you'll probably have to get a new one.

apparently win98 (but not 95) CAN handle a, erm, 'hot mouse swap' ...

> 
> -- Brooks
> 
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I am trying to get help making this card work.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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[ On Friday, October 29, mikep@inficad.com wrote: ]
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> I am trying to get help making this card work.
> I have tried a couple of things (copying everything from LINT
> concerning sound)
> and cannot get the kernel to compile.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> (please cc racer@inficad.com)
> 

I've got one of these cards. It has worked beautifully since I installed 
3.1-R on the system months ago. Now running 3.3-STABLE.

All I've got in my kernel config is:

pnp0
pcm0

I recently read somewhere (was it here?) that Creative very recently changed
the chipset of the PCI128--some other Ensoniq chip that the pcm0 driver 
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-Jr

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I just installed proftpd 1.2.0pre9 and I noticed that every time I =
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Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync? 
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:22:27 +0900
From: Kazutaka YOKOTA <yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>
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>I just got my boss moved over to FreeBSD from Windows, and we're having a
>terrible time with X and mice ...
>
>She has a PII system, and we've tried both a Logitech Mouseman and
>MicroSoft Inteellimouse...we have her box hooked up through a console
>switch, since, for now, she needs to shre her mouse/monitor/keyboard with
>her old Microsoft machine...

I cannot guarantee the correct operation of the psm driver if you use
a console switch.  There have been quite a number of console switch
products and some of them are so dumb that they cut power when you
switch between computers, others claim that they are clever enough to
"emulate" MS IntelliMouse when they, in fact, always bogusly answer
that your mouse is IntelliMouse, but does nothing to make it look like
the one when passing mouse data to the host computer.

[...]
>But there doesn't appear to have been any resolution to the problem, or at
>least none posted publicly...

If you have a good old 2-button or 3-button Logitech Mouseman without
a wheel, you may have better chance of using it with the console
switch, provided that your console switch does not try to be
half-smart.  Because the Mouseman does not require wacky
initialization or strange data format, there is a possibility that the
console switch won't wreack a havoc.

IntelliMouse uses a special initialization sequence and proprietary
data format.  Apparently the psm driver got confused about it when you
switched between two computers using this particular console switch.

You can use the flags 0x20 for the psm driver.  This flag will direct
the psm driver not to use any special initialization sequence and
treat any PS/2 mouse as the standard 2- or 3-button mouse. Mouseman
should behave like an ordinary 3-button mouse.  IntelliMouse will look
like a 2-button mouse; its wheel won't work and cannot be used as the
middle button, though.

device          psm0    at isa? tty irq 12 flags 0x20

With this flag, the any mouse should work...

>I've used FreeBSD/X with a switch before, but with older kernels, and have
>never seen this...

It depends on the console switch...  This one must have been rather a
harmless one.

Kazu


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