From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jan 30 9:59:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from po7.andrew.cmu.edu (PO7.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E3D15008 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:59:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tcrimi+@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21180 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: via switchmail; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix6.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.unix6.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:58:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:58:05 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Valentino Crimi To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Postfix Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone been able to get Postfix working on FreeBSD-Alpha? It may appear that something is wrong with unix-domain sockets which postfix makes heavy use of. I've been meaning to debug this at some point but if someone has gotten ahead of me it'd be interesting to hear. To repeat: Install postfix killall sendmail (for good measure :) postfix start /usr/local/sbin/sendmail -bp ( to get the mailq stats) mailq will hang. You can also watch things hang trying to send an email. Place postfix in heavy-debug output mode, I was never able to discern anythign going differently than on my i386 machines. It may have to be something with the processes never receiving a connect on their unix sockets. Any ideas? Thanks, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jan 30 16:41:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from web2001.mail.yahoo.com (web2001.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D57A914DF3 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:41:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kbagel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 20561 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2000 00:41:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000131004157.20560.qmail@web2001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [132.170.41.141] by web2001.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:41:57 PST Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:41:57 -0800 (PST) From: GReg meno Subject: WARNING: preposterous clock chip time. To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org my systems time is messed up date returns a random time which is sometimes off a day and a few hours or a year on bootup i get WARNING: preposterous clock chip time --- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! what is going on here? thanks greg PS is there some website for freebsd alpha simmilar to www.alphalinux.org that has answers to all these kind of questions ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jan 30 16:47:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pallas.veritas.com (pallas.veritas.com [204.177.156.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB6615274 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@veritas.com) Received: from megami.veritas.com (megami.veritas.com [192.203.46.101]) by pallas.veritas.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA06947; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (1632 bytes) by megami.veritas.com via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:46:59 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1999-Aug-24) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:46:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@veritas.com To: GReg meno Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING: preposterous clock chip time. In-Reply-To: <20000131004157.20560.qmail@web2001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, GReg meno wrote: > my systems time is messed up > date returns a random time which is sometimes off a > day and a few hours or a year > on bootup i get > > WARNING: preposterous clock chip time > --- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! > > what is going on here? Need some more details. There was, hee hee, a y2k bug when it didn't believe that year < 70 was a valid year. This was fixed around the 2nd of January for -current. So -what kernel are you running. What machine, etc... If you are running this particular machine with OSF/1, there's a different interpretation on the NVRAM in the toy (chip), or if you switch with ARC and run NT, there's yet *another* intepretation of NVRAM, so they all step on each other. This is a known problem, but hasn't been a high priority issue to fix. > > PS is there some website for freebsd alpha simmilar to > www.alphalinux.org that has answers to all these kind > of questions ? Wish there was- I don't know if there really is one set up yet. We sure need one. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jan 30 17:10:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from web2006.mail.yahoo.com (web2006.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92F9414A00 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kbagel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 12950 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2000 01:10:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20000131011026.12949.qmail@web2006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [132.170.41.141] by web2006.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:10:26 PST Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:10:26 -0800 (PST) From: GReg meno Subject: Re: WARNING: preposterous clock chip time. To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i'm running FreeBSD 4.0-19991225-CURRENT on an LX164 greg --- Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, GReg meno wrote: > > > my systems time is messed up > > date returns a random time which is sometimes off > a > > day and a few hours or a year > > on bootup i get > > > > WARNING: preposterous clock chip time > > --- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! > > > > what is going on here? > > Need some more details. There was, hee hee, a y2k > bug when it didn't > believe that year < 70 was a valid year. This was > fixed around the 2nd of > January for -current. So -what kernel are you > running. What machine, > etc... > > If you are running this particular machine with > OSF/1, there's a different > interpretation on the NVRAM in the toy (chip), or if > you switch with ARC > and run NT, there's yet *another* intepretation of > NVRAM, so they all step > on each other. This is a known problem, but hasn't > been a high priority > issue to fix. > > > > > > PS is there some website for freebsd alpha > simmilar to > > www.alphalinux.org that has answers to all these > kind > > of questions ? > > Wish there was- I don't know if there really is one > set up yet. We sure > need one. > > -matt > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jan 30 17:17:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pallas.veritas.com (pallas.veritas.com [204.177.156.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5F314D5A for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:17:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@veritas.com) Received: from megami.veritas.com (megami.veritas.com [192.203.46.101]) by pallas.veritas.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA07387; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (1246 bytes) by megami.veritas.com via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:17:14 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1999-Aug-24) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:17:14 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@veritas.com To: GReg meno Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING: preposterous clock chip time. In-Reply-To: <20000131011026.12949.qmail@web2006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, GReg meno wrote: > i'm running FreeBSD 4.0-19991225-CURRENT > on an LX164 Well, the fixes to sys/dev/dec/mcclock.c are didn't go in until the 4th: ---------------------------- revision 1.5 date: 2000/01/04 03:22:04; author: mjacob; state: Exp; lines: +15 -2 Ho, ho, ho... this clock chip is not y2k compliant. Motorola has it blacklisted. Silly us for not planning ahead. Tsk. Anyway- a 10 year window patch is probably sufficient to still detect nonsense in the clock but allow us to roll past the year 2000. (and yes, I've had people complain to me about the 10 year window- it's the right thing to do, but only in this case). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jan 30 18:50:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [216.190.188.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D909D14F67 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@cybcon.com) Received: from laptop.cybcon.com (william@pm3b-16.cybcon.com [205.147.75.81]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06126; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:50:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000131011026.12949.qmail@web2006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:45:31 -0800 (PST) From: William Woods To: GReg meno Subject: Re: WARNING: preposterous clock chip time. Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fow what its worth, I got this when the internal battery was dead. I replaced, set time and date, all is well On 31-Jan-00 GReg meno wrote: > i'm running FreeBSD 4.0-19991225-CURRENT > on an LX164 > > greg > --- Matthew Jacob wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, GReg meno wrote: >> >> > my systems time is messed up >> > date returns a random time which is sometimes off >> a >> > day and a few hours or a year >> > on bootup i get >> > >> > WARNING: preposterous clock chip time >> > --- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! >> > >> > what is going on here? >> >> Need some more details. There was, hee hee, a y2k >> bug when it didn't >> believe that year < 70 was a valid year. This was >> fixed around the 2nd of >> January for -current. So -what kernel are you >> running. What machine, >> etc... >> >> If you are running this particular machine with >> OSF/1, there's a different >> interpretation on the NVRAM in the toy (chip), or if >> you switch with ARC >> and run NT, there's yet *another* intepretation of >> NVRAM, so they all step >> on each other. This is a known problem, but hasn't >> been a high priority >> issue to fix. >> >> >> > >> > PS is there some website for freebsd alpha >> simmilar to >> > www.alphalinux.org that has answers to all these >> kind >> > of questions ? >> >> Wish there was- I don't know if there really is one >> set up yet. We sure >> need one. >> >> -matt >> >> >> > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: William Woods Date: 30-Jan-00 Time: 17:07:58 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jan 30 19: 5: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pallas.veritas.com (pallas.veritas.com [204.177.156.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C0914F2E for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:05:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@veritas.com) Received: from megami.veritas.com (megami.veritas.com [192.203.46.101]) by pallas.veritas.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA09232; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (686 bytes) by megami.veritas.com via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:02:26 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1999-Aug-24) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:02:26 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@veritas.com To: William Woods Cc: GReg meno , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING: preposterous clock chip time. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oh- duh- that's a simple and good thing to check... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jan 31 1: 1: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha2.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801C414DC2 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:00:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.net) Received: from home.net ([24.0.178.21]) by lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000131090058.SXGU945.lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com@home.net> for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:00:58 -0800 Message-ID: <38955019.210B890A@home.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:04:25 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: unable to create login-less user Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org was easy in i386... I'd read somewhere that adding NP to the password field in masster.passwd created a user who could not login -- and it worked. The same simple thing does not work in FreeBSD/Alpha FreeBSD 4.0-19991225-CURRENT -- or I'm missing something. Thanks, craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jan 31 1:11: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from guardian-ext.merrion.nua.net (guardian-ext.merrion.nua.net [195.7.46.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7D514EB6 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:10:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tony@nua.ie) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by guardian-ext.merrion.nua.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id JAA01635; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:10:39 GMT Received: from globetrotter.merrion.nua.net(195.7.46.55) via SMTP by guardian-int.merrion.nua.net, id smtpdMu1629; Mon Jan 31 09:10:35 2000 From: Tony Byrne To: Craig Burgess Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: unable to create login-less user Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:12:54 +0000 Organization: Nua Ltd. Message-ID: References: <38955019.210B890A@home.net> In-Reply-To: <38955019.210B890A@home.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:04:25 -0800, you wrote: >was easy in i386... I'd read somewhere that adding NP to the password >field in masster.passwd created a user who could not login -- and it >worked. > >The same simple thing does not work in FreeBSD/Alpha FreeBSD >4.0-19991225-CURRENT -- or I'm missing something. > >Thanks, >craig Craig, I'm not familiar with using "NP" in the password field of the master.password file to prevent logins, but "*" should come close to doing the same job. Also it might be an idea to set the shell of such accounts to "/sbin/nologin". Hope this helps, Regards, Tony. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jan 31 1:17: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from frond.minions.com (adsl-63-192-211-186.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.211.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E2D14D54 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bifrost@minions.com) Received: from localhost.minions.com (localhost.minions.com [127.0.0.1]) by frond.minions.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA47963; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bifrost@minions.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:16:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Tony Byrne Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: unable to create login-less user In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm not familiar with using "NP" in the password field of the > master.password file to prevent logins, but "*" should come close to > doing the same job. Also it might be an idea to set the shell of such > accounts to "/sbin/nologin". * is probably better as its more universally recognized as a bogus charachter in a password file. /usr/bin/yes is a much better null shell :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jan 31 10:31:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A669814F0E for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA33521; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:31:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:31:36 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Tom Cc: Tony Byrne , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: unable to create login-less user In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Tom wrote: > > I'm not familiar with using "NP" in the password field of the > > master.password file to prevent logins, but "*" should come close to > > doing the same job. Also it might be an idea to set the shell of such > > accounts to "/sbin/nologin". > > * is probably better as its more universally recognized as a bogus > charachter in a password file. > > /usr/bin/yes is a much better null shell :) Why? Nologin was created especially for this situation, I wonder why you think yes is better? Nologin is doc'ed in the login(1) man page, too. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jan 31 10:38:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from frond.minions.com (adsl-63-192-211-186.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.211.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB4D14FB6 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:38:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bifrost@minions.com) Received: from localhost.minions.com (localhost.minions.com [127.0.0.1]) by frond.minions.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA49387; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bifrost@minions.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:37:34 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Chuck Robey Cc: Tony Byrne , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: unable to create login-less user In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > /usr/bin/yes is a much better null shell :) > > Why? Nologin was created especially for this situation, I wonder why you > think yes is better? Nologin is doc'ed in the login(1) man page, too. I guess I should've clarified my statement. /usr/bin/yes is a bit funnier, especially if you're booting people out of your system for {doing something dumb, hacking, etc}. When they login they get blitzed off by a stream of y's. Its not handy when you have legitimate users who've got bad passwords/etc and need them changed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 1 1:51:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED17E3D70 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 01:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA07F1CDA; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:50:56 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tom Cc: Tony Byrne , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: unable to create login-less user In-Reply-To: Message from Tom of "Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:16:01 PST." Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 17:50:56 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000201095056.DA07F1CDA@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom wrote: > > I'm not familiar with using "NP" in the password field of the > > master.password file to prevent logins, but "*" should come close to > > doing the same job. Also it might be an idea to set the shell of such > > accounts to "/sbin/nologin". > > * is probably better as its more universally recognized as a bogus > charachter in a password file. > > /usr/bin/yes is a much better null shell :) Hmm, that appeals to my sense of BOFH. :-) Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 2 11:49:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from server1.huntsvilleal.com (www.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.7]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39EE40F7 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from barricuda.bsd.nws.net (kris.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.46]) by server1.huntsvilleal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22019; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:33:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barricuda.bsd.nws.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA45787; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:49:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:49:32 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: Peter Wemm Cc: Tom , Tony Byrne , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: unable to create login-less user In-Reply-To: <20000201095056.DA07F1CDA@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > /usr/bin/yes is a much better null shell :) Note that yes(1) can say anything you want it to. I'd be more concerned with wasting outward bandwidth, i.e.: chargen. > Hmm, that appeals to my sense of BOFH. :-) How would Simon use this? ;-) --- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "God gave them the ability to reproduce... ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 3 16: 7:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75594BEC for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115231>; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:23:46 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: POSIX P1003.1b extensions To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Feb4.092346est.115231@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:23:45 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A couple of weeks ago, Jordan enabled the following options in the -CURRENT i386 GENERIC. In addition, ntpd is now configured to use sched_setscheduler(2), which (presumably) causes it to log an error (but continue) on the Alpha. Is there some reason why this isn't enabled (or mentioned) on the Alpha? There doesn't appear to be any machine-dependent code in the underlying implementation (though I didn't work through it in detail). options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extentions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 4 5:51:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from brak.fuzzfactor.com (cc922847-b.hwrd1.md.home.com [24.13.114.72]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383AF3FE5 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 05:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by brak.fuzzfactor.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06756 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:51:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:51:40 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Harris To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: help! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running a mission critical app on a box, using FreeBSD 4.0 SNAP 01012000. I keep getting a panic. Also, I've seen this a lot before on one of our LX164s. Feb 3 23:42:02 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 3 23:42:02 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 3 23:48:01 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 00:08:03 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 00:28:06 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 00:48:08 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 00:58:09 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 01:08:10 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 01:18:12 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 01:38:14 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 01:58:16 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 02:08:17 ds10-mc last message repeated 4 times Feb 4 02:18:19 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 02:48:22 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 03:08:25 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 03:28:27 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 04:08:32 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 04:18:33 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 04:28:34 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 04:38:35 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 04:48:36 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 04:58:37 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 05:08:39 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 05:18:40 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 05:28:41 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 05:38:42 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: unexpected machine check: Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: mces = 0x1 Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: vector = 0x670 Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: param = 0xfffffc0000006080 Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: pc = 0xfffffc000045f3c0 Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00004689c8 Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: curproc = 0xfffffe001a076660 Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: pid = 384, comm = mc-20 Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: panic: machine check Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: syncing disks... 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: giving up on 6 buffers Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: Uptime: 7h13m8s Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the co nsole to abort Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: Rebooting... -=[ Rob ]=- ___________________________________________________________________________ "He's old enough to know what's right, but young enough not to choose it. He's noble enough to win the world, but weak enough to lose it." --"New World Man" (Rush) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 4 6:53:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334F34187 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07686; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA75292; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:53:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:53:00 -0500 (EST) To: Rob Harris Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help! In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14490.59011.291428.147695@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rob Harris writes: > > I'm running a mission critical app on a box, using FreeBSD 4.0 SNAP > 01012000. I keep getting a panic. > > Also, I've seen this a lot before on one of our LX164s. > <..> > Feb 4 01:58:16 ds10-mc /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable > error. > Feb 4 02:08:17 ds10-mc last message repeated 4 times <..> > error. > Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: > Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: unexpected machine check: > Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: > Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: mces = 0x1 > Feb 4 05:48:04 ds10-mc /kernel: vector = 0x670 Sounds like hardware problems to me. From the vector 670 ( = processor incorrectable error) and the previous messages, I suspect you have bad memory. I suspect the correctable errors are memory corruption errors which can be fixed by the ECC bits, and the panic is corruption so bad that it cannot be fixed by the ECC bits. Try yanking simms until the errors stop. Of course, it could also be a problem with the motherboard (bcache) or the CPU (icache/dcache).. You might also try to remove any excess dust buildup & make sure the box is properly cooled. Good luck, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 4 12:29:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590693F84 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23512; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:39:46 -0800 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:39:41 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Rob Harris Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looks like bad memory to me. Try reseating and/or cleaning contacts, but... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 4 16:11:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDC34389; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA31115; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:11:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA57433; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:11:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:11:34 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: giffunip@asme.org Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: CodeWeavers Announces Twine 1.3] Message-ID: <20000204161134.F57320@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <38961B2F.9D0454DD@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38961B2F.9D0454DD@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co>; from pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co on Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 06:30:55PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: "Jim Graham" > To: > Subject: CodeWeavers Announces Twine 1.3 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:24:22 -0600 ... > Just in time for LinuxWorld Conference and Expo, CodeWeavers announces Twine > 1.3. > > Major changes: > - Enabled Alpha/OSF Version of Twine I see the makings of a new FreeBSD/Alpha port. :-) -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 4 16:20:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0C9430F for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA20028 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 18:20:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 18:20:58 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Price To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot failure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Steve Price wrote: # I just rebuilt my -current Alpha with sources from earlier today. # When I rebooted the machine I saw the following messages. # # ... # jumping to bootstrap code # *** no timer interrupts on CPU 0 *** # \ # halted CPU 0 # # halt code = 2 # kernel stack not valid halt # PC = 7b555e85cfa773e0 # boot failure # >>> Update to my own question: This problem seems to be caused by the following commit. I reverted to revision 1.3 and things are working as they should. RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/alpha/common/Makefile.common,v ---------------------------- revision 1.4 date: 1999/12/27 09:20:33; author: peter; state: Exp; lines: +14 -4 Connect up the bootforth glue and compile it, but don't initialize it at runtime as it has a nasty habit of crashing on the Alpha :-(. This is being done this way so we have a common starting point for debugging. ---------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 5 5:24:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8C64092 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 05:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14271 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 06:24:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 06:24:33 -0700 (MST) From: "brian j. peterson" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: a little help with Compaq Fortran Message-ID: X-Prime: (2 ^ 6972593) - 1 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i am trying to install the Compaq Fortran compiler on my alpha. the Compaq download page is offering install packages for RedHat 6.0, RedHat 5.2, and Debian. which is better suited for FreeBSD/alpha 4.0-CURRENT? thanks, brian -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 5 10: 1:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995B645CB for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05431; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA87322; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:01:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:01:47 -0500 (EST) To: "brian j. peterson" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a little help with Compaq Fortran In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14492.25450.986008.933941@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org brian j. peterson writes: > i am trying to install the Compaq Fortran compiler on my alpha. the > Compaq download page is offering install packages for RedHat 6.0, RedHat > 5.2, and Debian. which is better suited for FreeBSD/alpha 4.0-CURRENT? We don't currently support linux emulation on the alpha. I'm working on it & have simple things like bash running right now. I've downloaded one of the compilers (ccc actually) and will be testing it this weekend. Bear in mind that this work is low priority for me, since my employers have real Tru64 alphas around & we use them for compiling OSF/1 binaries with the Compaq compilers. As an aside, linux/alpha emulation is more challenging than you might think. This has more to do with the disgusting, hackish nature of linux than any fault (eg 32-bit-ism) of our linux-emu. Linux uses different syscall numbers & different flags for syscall args on different ports. Many system calls even behave differently. Little things like pipe are totally different between the x86 & the alpha. I realize they did this when they bootstrapped of of osf/1, but they really should have reverted to their native numbers/flags. Its really quite a mess.. Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 5 10:13:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9D845E6 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17018; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:13:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:13:40 -0700 (MST) From: "brian j. peterson" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a little help with Compaq Fortran In-Reply-To: <14492.25450.986008.933941@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: X-Prime: (2 ^ 6972593) - 1 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: <<>> # As an aside, linux/alpha emulation is more challenging than you might # think. This has more to do with the disgusting, hackish nature of # linux than any fault (eg 32-bit-ism) of our linux-emu. Linux uses # different syscall numbers & different flags for syscall args on # different ports. Many system calls even behave differently. Little # things like pipe are totally different between the x86 & the alpha. I # realize they did this when they bootstrapped of of osf/1, but they # really should have reverted to their native numbers/flags. Its really # quite a mess.. precisely why i am sticking with FreeBSD. =) anyway, do you think it would be easier to get Compaq to port their Fortran compiler to FreeBSD/alpha instead? they have those alphas running FreeBSD in their testdrive program, so it would seem to me that they already have (token?) support for FreeBSD/alpha. why not nudge them to support it more? -brian -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 5 12:10:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D014636 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA41170 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA12422 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:11:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:11:10 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: new OSF/1 [library] compatibility port Message-ID: <20000205121110.A61516@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just wanted to mention that I have just committed the osf1_base port (/usr/ports/emulators/osf1_base). This port gives you the OSF/1 shared libraries needed to run OSF/1 Netscape and other binaries with out having a Compaq Tru64 license. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 5 12:51:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75F545CB for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07687; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA87530; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:51:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:51:19 -0500 (EST) To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new OSF/1 [library] compatibility port In-Reply-To: <20000205121110.A61516@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20000205121110.A61516@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14492.36141.67884.918389@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > Just wanted to mention that I have just committed the osf1_base port > (/usr/ports/emulators/osf1_base). This port gives you the OSF/1 shared > libraries needed to run OSF/1 Netscape and other binaries with out having > a Compaq Tru64 license. Thanks David!! Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 5 16:25: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from psyclone.s4d.ch (psyclone.s4d.ch [212.28.139.21]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB054695 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from s4d.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by psyclone.s4d.ch (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id BAA14001 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 01:22:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <389CBEBC.9C197FB9@s4d.ch> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 01:22:20 +0100 From: Fabian Wenk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD on an Alpha XL-300? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, we are trying to install FreeBSD on an Alpha XL-300 with AlphaBIOS, are there any possibilities to do this? How can we load and run the kernel.gz. This machine doesn't support the SRM console. We tried with milo (miniloader) from linux, it can load the kernel from the disk, but it stops after uncompressing it. Thanks for any help. bye Fabian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 5 17: 2:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3358C468C for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA10770; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA87958; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:57:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:57:15 -0500 (EST) To: Fabian Wenk Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Alpha XL-300? In-Reply-To: <389CBEBC.9C197FB9@s4d.ch> References: <389CBEBC.9C197FB9@s4d.ch> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14492.50865.630768.162483@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fabian Wenk writes: > Hello, > > we are trying to install FreeBSD on an Alpha XL-300 with AlphaBIOS, are > there any possibilities to do this? > > How can we load and run the kernel.gz. This machine doesn't support the > SRM console. No, there are no possibilities now. Your machine must support SRM in order to run any BSD. I'm sorry, but you're stuck with NT or Linux. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 6 8:13:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from set.spradley.org (set.spradley.tmi.net [207.170.107.99]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6E23D0F for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 08:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from set.spradley.org (localhost.spradley.tmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by set.spradley.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA32623; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 10:14:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.org) Message-Id: <200002061614.KAA32623@set.spradley.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new OSF/1 [library] compatibility port In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Feb 2000 12:11:10 PST." <20000205121110.A61516@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 10:14:22 -0600 From: Ted Spradley Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Just wanted to mention that I have just committed the osf1_base port > (/usr/ports/emulators/osf1_base). This port gives you the OSF/1 shared > libraries needed to run OSF/1 Netscape and other binaries with out having > a Compaq Tru64 license. Thanks! I did it (cvsup and make install) and it Just Works. Muchas gracias! > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 6 15:12: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C7B3D7E for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (x130-65-210-24.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.24]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03169 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:12:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <389DFFBA.D1C4B36F@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:11:54 -0800 From: manning@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4.0-CURRENT install boot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i know this is going to be kinda repeditive, but until i learn where www.freebsd.org has archives of messages from here, i'll have to ask these stupid repeditive questions :P OK, i'm trying to install 4.0-CURRENT on my DEC Multia (yea yea, laugh it up). I'm using a serial console. Now, when i boot the installation disk (off one of the hd's none the less), it switches back over to the graphics console, and when it gets to asking which terminal type you want (press 1,2,3,4), it doesn't recognize keyboard input anymore. I was hoping it would all be over the serial console, so i could use the keyboard on the other computer, but....... anyway, the kernel says it finds an "atkbd0", implying an AT keyboard. I'm using a PS2 keyboard. Would this have anything to do with it? In any case, is there anything i can do about this? right before the terminal select (1,2,3,4) menu, it says "/stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console". this DOESN'T show up on my serial console... infact, NOTHING shows up on my serial console, after it does the bootstrap. Can anything be done for this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 6 15:14:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5460D3E94 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA27621; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA89719; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:14:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:14:55 -0500 (EST) To: manning@uclink4.berkeley.edu Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-CURRENT install boot In-Reply-To: <389DFFBA.D1C4B36F@uclink4.berkeley.edu> References: <389DFFBA.D1C4B36F@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14494.51.823911.886449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the SRM console prompt: >>> set console serial Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 6 15:22:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF653D7E for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (x130-65-210-24.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.24]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11725 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:22:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <389E021A.60DC9EF2@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:22:02 -0800 From: manning@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-CURRENT install boot References: <389DFFBA.D1C4B36F@uclink4.berkeley.edu> <14494.51.823911.886449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yes, yes, i know that... i did that, and got the serial console working. but, as i said, when it jumps to the installation disk bootstrap, it switches back to the regualr "graphics" console.... Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >From the SRM console prompt: > > >>> set console serial To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 7 10:42:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from procyon.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A924019 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from deneb.meridian-enviro.com (deneb.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.32]) by procyon.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA11938; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:35:43 -0600 (CST) Received: (from rand@localhost) by deneb.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA93847; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:35:42 -0600 (CST) To: "brian j. peterson" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a little help with Compaq Fortran References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand) Date: 07 Feb 2000 11:35:42 -0600 In-Reply-To: "brian j. peterson"'s message of "Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:13:40 -0700 (MST)" Message-ID: <87r9eo9aq9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ** brian j peterson on Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:13:40 -0700 (MST) ** in [Re: a little help with Compaq Fortran] writes: brian> anyway, do you think it would be easier to get Compaq to port brian> their Fortran compiler to FreeBSD/alpha instead? I've asked them this question already, they said: ** Steven Lionel on Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:40:30 -0500 ** in [Re: FreeBSD] writes: Steven> Thank you for your interest in Compaq's Fortran products. Steven> I'm sorry to say that we have no plans to offer our Fortran Steven> compiler for FreeBSD. I sent my request to fortran@compaq.com. Maybe if more people asked they might take up the cause. All of our Intel systems run FreeBSD, but our Alphas run Digital Unix, er, OSF/1, er, True64 UNIX. :) We need a good FORTRAN90 compiler to run weather models (mm5 and arps) on the Alphas. Right now the only choices are True64 or Linux. Sigh. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 7 10:53:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2281419F for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:53:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06631; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA91405; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:53:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:53:23 -0500 (EST) To: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a little help with Compaq Fortran In-Reply-To: <87r9eo9aq9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> References: <87r9eo9aq9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14495.4967.213666.348209@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Douglas K. Rand writes: > > All of our Intel systems run FreeBSD, but our Alphas run Digital Unix, > er, OSF/1, er, True64 UNIX. :) We need a good FORTRAN90 compiler to > run weather models (mm5 and arps) on the Alphas. Right now the only > choices are True64 or Linux. Sigh. Do what we do: Have one designated compile machine running Tru64. Use that compile machine to build binaries for a cluster of Alphas running FreeBSD. The money we saved by not ordering Tru64 on our cluster of DS10s and the money that we've saved by not renewing 20+ CLSG/ESL campus software liceses & software support has probably paid for the time I've spent porting FreeBSD to the alpha and getting OSF/1 abi compatability to the point it is at now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 7 11: 0:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alphamb2.phys.vt.edu (alphamb2.phys.vt.edu [128.173.176.26]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C044C45B5 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (siglercm@localhost) by alphamb2.phys.vt.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA01762 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:00:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:00:40 -0500 (EST) From: Clemmitt Sigler To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Newbie question about Netscape on Alpha. In-Reply-To: <87r9eo9aq9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm running CURRENT-20000101-4.0 on a AXPpci33. Over the weekend I CVSup'ed my ports tree to get the new osf1-base port (which is a really super addition!). I installed it and netscape47-navigator. All went well. But navigator isn't working :^( When it comes up, the "graphic" is incomplete, I don't have the Back, Forward, Stop, etc. buttons. Worse yet, it can't connect to the 'net. Lynx works perfectly for me, but navigator says "Can't locate home.netscape.com, ..." Somehow it's not resolving host names. Surely I'm doing something obviously wrong. Am I missing some package that should be installed? Do I need to CVSup my src tree and make world/build a new kernel? TIA. Clemmitt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 7 11: 7:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F81440AA for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06989; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA91563; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:07:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:07:42 -0500 (EST) To: Clemmitt Sigler Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbie question about Netscape on Alpha. In-Reply-To: References: <87r9eo9aq9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14495.6080.956500.857408@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Clemmitt Sigler writes: > navigator says "Can't locate home.netscape.com, ..." Somehow it's > not resolving host names. > Make sure your /etc/resolv.conf doesn't have any empty search directives. Make sure there are no extra spaces or extra lines in the file. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 7 11:26: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from procyon.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76E84073 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from deneb.meridian-enviro.com (deneb.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.32]) by procyon.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA19433; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:26:34 -0600 (CST) Received: (from rand@localhost) by deneb.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA95077; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:26:33 -0600 (CST) From: "Douglas K. Rand" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14495.7273.186589.192997@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:26:33 -0600 (CST) To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a little help with Compaq Fortran In-Reply-To: <14495.4967.213666.348209@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <87r9eo9aq9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> <14495.4967.213666.348209@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) X-Face: $L%T~#'9fAQ])o]A][d7EH`V;"_;2K;TEPQB=v]rDf_2s% > All of our Intel systems run FreeBSD, but our Alphas run Digital Unix, > er, OSF/1, er, True64 UNIX. :) We need a good FORTRAN90 compiler to > run weather models (mm5 and arps) on the Alphas. Right now the only > choices are True64 or Linux. Sigh. Andrew> Do what we do: Have one designated compile machine running Andrew> Tru64. Use that compile machine to build binaries for a Andrew> cluster of Alphas running FreeBSD. I hadn't thought about doing it that way. One possible problem we might have with this is the MM5 model which unfortunately wants to recompile itself way too often, but perhaps we can do that via a ssh to the compile machine. Thanks for the idea. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 7 13:40:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896183F8A for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02502; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from dog ([198.82.106.223]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with SMTP id <0FPK00J2NU3GV0@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:26:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 15:25:35 -0500 From: nm Subject: Re: Newbie question about Netscape on Alpha. X-Sender: nmanisca@mail.vt.edu To: Andrew Gallatin , Clemmitt Sigler Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3.0.32.20000207152534.03160100@mail.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:07 PM 2/7/00 -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >Clemmitt Sigler writes: > > navigator says "Can't locate home.netscape.com, ..." Somehow it's > > not resolving host names. > > > >Make sure your /etc/resolv.conf doesn't have any empty search >directives. Make sure there are no extra spaces or extra lines in the >file. I thought I read somewhere that you need to make an /etc/svc.conf file. Tru64(Digital UNIX, OSF/1)'s resolver looks for /etc/svc.conf. I could be way off here, so correct me if I am. ...Maybe svc.conf should contain something like: aliases=local group=local hosts=local,bind,yp netgroup=local networks=local passwd=local protocols=local rpc=local services=local where the hosts line is the important one. Nick Maniscalco nmanisca@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 7 14:51:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A73740B3 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA52901; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA20554; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:52:37 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: nm Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbie question about Netscape on Alpha. Message-ID: <20000207145236.B19335@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3.0.32.20000207152534.03160100@mail.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000207152534.03160100@mail.vt.edu>; from nmanisca@vt.edu on Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:25:35PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:25:35PM -0500, nm wrote: > I thought I read somewhere that you need to make an /etc/svc.conf file. > Tru64(Digital UNIX, OSF/1)'s resolver looks for /etc/svc.conf. You should already have one -- but remember this is relative to the OSF/1 compat root. Thus you want /usr/compat/osf1/etc/svc.conf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 8 7:28:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alphamb2.phys.vt.edu (alphamb2.phys.vt.edu [128.173.176.26]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0524B4216 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 07:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (siglercm@localhost) by alphamb2.phys.vt.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03381 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:29:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:29:29 -0500 (EST) From: Clemmitt Sigler To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fixed -- Newbie question about Netscape on Alpha. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Clemmitt Sigler wrote: > Lynx works perfectly for me, but > navigator says "Can't locate home.netscape.com, ..." Somehow it's > not resolving host names. The problem was that osf1 didn't like my existing /etc/resolv.conf. I've got this machine on a private home net so I don't have a domain name assigned to it. `hostname' returns the name of the machine but `domainname' returns the empty string. osf1 needs that domain name it seems. I simply had to add a line: domain madeup.name.net to /etc/resolv.conf and all was well with netscape and name lookups. (Now on to problem #2 :^) Clemmitt Sigler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 8 7:37:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7194A4203 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 07:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA79237; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 07:38:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA56618; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 07:38:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 07:38:24 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Clemmitt Sigler Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixed -- Newbie question about Netscape on Alpha. Message-ID: <20000208073824.E19335@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from siglercm@alphamb2.phys.vt.edu on Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:29:29AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:29:29AM -0500, Clemmitt Sigler wrote: > The problem was that osf1 didn't like my existing /etc/resolv.conf. > I've got this machine on a private home net so I don't have a > domain name assigned to it. `hostname' returns the name of the > machine but `domainname' returns the empty string. domainname(1) has nothing to do with DNS or /etc/resolv.conf. domainname(1) refers to the YP/NIS domain of a machine. OSF/1 compatibility runs fine on a machine where ``domainname'' returns nothing. > osf1 needs that domain name it seems. I simply had to add a line: > > domain madeup.name.net OR, you can use the "search" directive rather than "domain" as the search directive is often more useful. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) [Va Tech BSEE] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 8 7:39:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alphamb2.phys.vt.edu (alphamb2.phys.vt.edu [128.173.176.26]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309C741CB for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 07:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (siglercm@localhost) by alphamb2.phys.vt.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03465 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:40:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:40:12 -0500 (EST) From: Clemmitt Sigler To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Strange X/graphics "artifacts." Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi again, I'm running CURRENT-20000101-4.0 on a AXPpci33. I'm using an old Matrox Mystique 4MB PCI video card, it reports as a Matrox MGA 1064SG rev 2. When I do X windows stuff, I get a *lot* of wierd graphics "artifacts" drawn on the screen. I've tried both the standard XF86_SVGA 335 and the new 336 servers, and both fvwm2 and twm. Same thing any way I try it. When I start up netscape, lots of junk gets drawn on the screen, mainly horizontal lines. In addition, when I use pull-down menus that overlap an X window and the menu goes away it leaves the artifact of the part that overlapped that window there. It's like the window's not getting redrawn properly. Just wondering if this behavior was a known problem or if I've managed to mess something up. Or do I simply need a different video card :^) TIA, FreeBSD on the Alpha is super! Clemmitt Sigler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 9 1:11: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from set.spradley.org (set.spradley.tmi.net [207.170.107.99]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D247419F for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from set.spradley.org (localhost.spradley.tmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by set.spradley.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA39067 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:52:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.org) Message-Id: <200002090352.VAA39067@set.spradley.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AS200 sound card configuration? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 21:52:53 -0600 From: Ted Spradley Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org AlphaStation 200 4/233 running 4.0-current from about a week ago. I added a line: device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq 9 drq 0 flags 0x11 to my kernel config and the device gets probed as: pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537 irq 9 drq 0 flags 0xa111 on isa0 pcm0: interrupting at ISA irq 9 ISACFG in the SRM reports that it uses I/O addresses 0x530 and 0x388, IRQ 9, and DMA 0 and 1. I ran MAKEDEV snd1 in /dev and have: stone$ ls -l au* dsp* mix* snd* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Feb 8 20:09 audio@ -> audio1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 20 Feb 8 20:09 audio1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Feb 8 20:09 dsp@ -> dsp1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 19 Feb 8 20:09 dsp1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 5 Feb 8 20:09 dspW@ -> dspW1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 21 Feb 8 20:09 dspW1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Feb 8 20:09 mixer@ -> mixer1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 16 Feb 8 20:09 mixer1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 6 Feb 8 20:09 sndstat stone$ cat < /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Feb 8 2000 19:48:21 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x530 irq 9 drq 0:1 (1p/1r channels duplex) but when I try to cat a .au file to /dev/audio I get: stone$ cat lumberjack.au > /dev/audio ksh: cannot create /dev/audio: Device not configured I know there's probably something dumb that I'm missing. Can anybody spare me a clue? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 9 5:54:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9453E00 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 05:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA26046; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA96008; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:53:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:53:47 -0500 (EST) To: Ted Spradley Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS200 sound card configuration? In-Reply-To: <200002090352.VAA39067@set.spradley.org> References: <200002090352.VAA39067@set.spradley.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14497.28775.115216.956044@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ted Spradley writes: <..> > pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537 irq 9 drq 0 flags 0xa111 on isa0 > pcm0: interrupting at ISA irq 9 > > ISACFG in the SRM reports that it uses I/O addresses 0x530 and 0x388, IRQ > 9, and DMA 0 and 1. I ran MAKEDEV snd1 in /dev and have: <...> > but when I try to cat a .au file to /dev/audio I get: > > stone$ cat lumberjack.au > /dev/audio > ksh: cannot create /dev/audio: Device not configured > > I know there's probably something dumb that I'm missing. Can anybody > spare me a clue? If it gets reported as pcm0, you should be using snd0 & not snd1. I've never tried just cat'ing a file to /dev/audio, I usually use amp or mpg123 to play mp3s. My alphas with wss cards tend to do better at playing mp3s than my x86s with soundblasters.. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 12 20:34: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012943FB5 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20755 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dog ([198.82.106.223]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with SMTP id <0FPU008HLQ0NS9@gkar.cc.vt.edu> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:33:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:33:28 -0500 From: nm Subject: applixware for linux on fbsd? X-Sender: nmanisca@mail.vt.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-id: <3.0.32.20000212233328.045873d0@mail.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have not used FreeBSD on Alpha in a long time so this may sound quite silly. Has anyone been able to get the linux version of Applixware to work under FreeBSD/Alpha? If so, is it stable and reliable? I have an AS200 w/ 128MB, I am wondering if it will perform well on such a system. Thanks Nick Maniscalco nmanisca@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 12 20:53:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E3540D5 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01981; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA13323; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:53:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:53:13 -0500 (EST) To: nm Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: applixware for linux on fbsd? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000212233328.045873d0@mail.vt.edu> References: <3.0.32.20000212233328.045873d0@mail.vt.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14502.13970.66090.773869@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org nm writes: > I have not used FreeBSD on Alpha in a long time so this may > sound quite silly. Has anyone been able to get the linux > version of Applixware to work under FreeBSD/Alpha? If so, > is it stable and reliable? I have an AS200 w/ 128MB, I am > wondering if it will perform well on such a system. It is not silly at all. Running Linux binaries is being worked on, but is not there yet. It will be good to have another useful application to test. So far I've only tried em86 (doesn't work) and the compaq compilers (sorta works). Can you tell me where to get applixware for alpha? I just checked their site & I can only find an x86 demo. Is there an alpha demo version? Thanks, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 6:35:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78234052 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 06:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fujimori@localhost) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) id XAA06009 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:36:02 +0900 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:36:02 +0900 From: Y Fujimori Message-Id: <200002131436.XAA06009@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: OSF/1 binaries Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear listers, Please let me ask the following question here. Could some one of you run commercial packages for symbolic computation like Maple, Mathematica or REDUCE for OSF/1(Digital Unix, Tru64) on FreeBSD/Alpha? How about gcl and MuPAD? Thanks for your attention. Regards, Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 8:37:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A893E2B for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 08:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id RAA00887 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:35:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15559 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:39:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:39:29 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: creating bootable cd for alpha Message-ID: <20000213173929.A15547@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I want to test booting off a cdrom on the various Alpha models I have available at home and at work. What I'm looking is the right magical commands to make such a cd. I assume Alpha uses a bootable ufs cd instead of RockRidge. Is this described somewhere? -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 8:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B534193 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 08:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11177; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dog ([198.82.106.223]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with SMTP id <0FPV002B5OCF6K@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:55:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:54:56 -0500 From: nm Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha X-Sender: nmanisca@mail.vt.edu To: Wilko Bulte , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Message-id: <3.0.32.20000213115455.04591310@mail.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:39 PM 2/13/00 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: >Hi > >I want to test booting off a cdrom on the various Alpha models I have >available at home and at work. > >What I'm looking is the right magical commands to make such a cd. I assume >Alpha uses a bootable ufs cd instead of RockRidge. > >Is this described somewhere? Wilko, I recently made an srm-bootable NetBSD cdrom. Here is what I did. 1. first download all the needed files from a mirror. 2. copy /usr/mdec/boot from a netbsd/alpha system to the root of the cd image 3. copy netbsd.gz from the instkernel directory under the alpha/installation distribution from the cd to the root directory and then uncompress it, leaving 4. build the iso image using the following command --------------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/local/bin/mkhybrid -A "NetBSD-1.4.1" \ -b NetBSD-1.4.1/i386/installation/floppy/boot.fs \ -c NetBSD-1.4.1/i386/installation/floppy/boot.catalog \ -J -o netbsd-1.4.1.iso -P "NetBSD-1.4.1" -p "NetBSD-1.4.1" \ -r -V "NetBSD-1.4.1" NetBSD --------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. install a primary boot loader (which loads /boot) to the root of the cd via installboot (man installboot). --------------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/mdec/installboot image.iso /usr/mdec/bootxx_cd9660 --------------------------------------------------------------------- The key steps to pay attention to are copying the secondary boot loader (boot) to the root of the iso9660 image and installing the primary boot loader (using installboot) to the iso9660 image. Hope this helps, if you have any questions please email me. Nick Maniscalco nmanisca@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 9:36:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4534139 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA90449; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:36:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:39:29 +0100." <20000213173929.A15547@yedi.iaf.nl> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:36:02 -0800 Message-ID: <90446.950463362@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What I'm looking is the right magical commands to make such a cd. I assume > Alpha uses a bootable ufs cd instead of RockRidge. Real easy these days! First go make your release and produce an ISO image with mkisofs. Then go build /usr/ports/sysutils/setcdboot on your alpha and do the following: setcdboot your-image.iso /boot/cdboot And the resulting image will be bootable. The 4.0-RC ISO image for the alpha on ftp.freebsd.org went through this process and I managed to boot and install from it just fine. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 9:49:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03FB4257 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07880; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:49:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA94627; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:49:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:49:58 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha Message-ID: <20000213094958.E91242@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list References: <20000213173929.A15547@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000213173929.A15547@yedi.iaf.nl>; from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl on Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:39:29PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:39:29PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > What I'm looking is the right magical commands to make such a cd. I assume > Alpha uses a bootable ufs cd instead of RockRidge. Not quite -- RockRidge is still useful (especially for Disc 2). Rather you do not specify a boot image as you would on the i386. When I hacked `make release' to support cdbooting on the Alpha, I maked my ISO images by: mkisofs -v -a -o alpha-boot.iso -r -d -T /release/R/cdrom/disc1 mkisofs -v -a -o alpha-liveFS.iso -r -d -T /release/R/cdrom/disc2 setcdboot alpha-boot.iso /boot/cdboot setcdboot alpha-liveFS.iso /boot/cdboot [ `setcdboot' is in ports/sysutils/setcdboot, and has only been tested on the Alpha. If anybody has tried doing the `setcdboot' step on an i386 box I would be interested to hear about it. ] -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 11:24:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F2042BA for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:24:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11329; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA14641; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:24:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:24:06 -0500 (EST) To: Y Fujimori Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OSF/1 binaries In-Reply-To: <200002131436.XAA06009@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> References: <200002131436.XAA06009@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14503.1052.930532.129915@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Y Fujimori writes: > Dear listers, > Please let me ask the following question here. > Could some one of you run commercial packages for symbolic computation > like Maple, Mathematica or REDUCE for OSF/1(Digital Unix, Tru64) on > FreeBSD/Alpha? > How about gcl and MuPAD? I have tried Mathematica 3.2 & found it to work. Extensive testing was not done. An early beta tester reported that Matlab worked. If you try any of these packages & they fail, please let us know. If they fail for any reason other than depending on DEC threads (and Mach system calls), I'll do what I can to help you get them running. Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 12:37:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3729A3EB0 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id VAA17245 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:25:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25709 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:27:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:27:19 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha Message-ID: <20000213202719.B25640@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <20000213173929.A15547@yedi.iaf.nl> <20000213094958.E91242@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000213094958.E91242@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@NUXI.com on Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 09:49:58AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 09:49:58AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:39:29PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > What I'm looking is the right magical commands to make such a cd. I assume > > Alpha uses a bootable ufs cd instead of RockRidge. > > Not quite -- RockRidge is still useful (especially for Disc 2). Rather > you do not specify a boot image as you would on the i386. Yep, I figured that one out. The whole concept of Torito is a bit alien to Alpha. > setcdboot alpha-boot.iso /boot/cdboot > setcdboot alpha-liveFS.iso /boot/cdboot Right, thanks. I'll post results for other systems once I've tested them -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 12:37:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D337847EF for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id VAA17179; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:25:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25694; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:25:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:25:24 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha Message-ID: <20000213202524.A25640@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <20000213173929.A15547@yedi.iaf.nl> <90446.950463362@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <90446.950463362@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 09:36:02AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 09:36:02AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > What I'm looking is the right magical commands to make such a cd. I assume > > Alpha uses a bootable ufs cd instead of RockRidge. > > Real easy these days! > > First go make your release and produce an ISO image with mkisofs. > Then go build /usr/ports/sysutils/setcdboot on your alpha > and do the following: > > setcdboot your-image.iso /boot/cdboot > > And the resulting image will be bootable. The 4.0-RC ISO image for > the alpha on ftp.freebsd.org went through this process and I managed > to boot and install from it just fine. Thanks. FYI I can report success booting to sysinstall on a MiataGL with a SCSI cdrom. I hope to try some other system models monday or tuesday. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 13 17:25:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gate.keisu.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ns06.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.68.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5B93E1D for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sylph.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (sylph.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [10.6.1.20]) by gate.keisu.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB843D45; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:25:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [10.6.1.30]) by sylph.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FC42DAA9; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:25:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp by ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.9.3/sat-V0.6) id KAA36672; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:25:30 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:25:29 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Cc: fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OSF/1 binaries In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:24:06 -0500 (EST)" <14503.1052.930532.129915@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <200002131436.XAA06009@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> <14503.1052.930532.129915@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.2.9 (Gonna Make You Sweat) SEMI/1.13.6 (Komatsu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.2 (beta19) (Shinjuku) (i386-unknown-freebsd3.2) X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7:#j7i14gu$ jgR\S*&C3R/pJX wrote: > > > Y Fujimori writes: > > Dear listers, > > Please let me ask the following question here. > > Could some one of you run commercial packages for symbolic computation > > like Maple, Mathematica or REDUCE for OSF/1(Digital Unix, Tru64) on > > FreeBSD/Alpha? > > How about gcl and MuPAD? > > I have tried Mathematica 3.2 & found it to work. Extensive testing > was not done. An early beta tester reported that Matlab worked. Maple works too. I checked only some demo. /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: finger -l simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 1:47:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D501D3E78 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 01:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12KI6U-000HuE-0W; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:47:38 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29186; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:48:37 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:48:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha In-Reply-To: <20000213094958.E91242@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:39:29PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > What I'm looking is the right magical commands to make such a cd. I assume > > Alpha uses a bootable ufs cd instead of RockRidge. > > Not quite -- RockRidge is still useful (especially for Disc 2). Rather > you do not specify a boot image as you would on the i386. > > When I hacked `make release' to support cdbooting on the Alpha, I maked > my ISO images by: > > mkisofs -v -a -o alpha-boot.iso -r -d -T /release/R/cdrom/disc1 > mkisofs -v -a -o alpha-liveFS.iso -r -d -T /release/R/cdrom/disc2 > > setcdboot alpha-boot.iso /boot/cdboot > setcdboot alpha-liveFS.iso /boot/cdboot > > [ `setcdboot' is in ports/sysutils/setcdboot, and has only been tested on > the Alpha. If anybody has tried doing the `setcdboot' step on an i386 > box I would be interested to hear about it. ] I believe setcdboot should work when run on an i386 (the resulting image being bootable on an alpha of course). I used it on an i386 several times while working on the cd boot support. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 1:48:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D2D3EE6 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 01:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12KI7Y-000HzY-0W; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:48:45 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29491; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:49:43 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:49:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha In-Reply-To: <20000213202719.B25640@yedi.iaf.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 09:49:58AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:39:29PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > What I'm looking is the right magical commands to make such a cd. I assume > > > Alpha uses a bootable ufs cd instead of RockRidge. > > > > Not quite -- RockRidge is still useful (especially for Disc 2). Rather > > you do not specify a boot image as you would on the i386. > > Yep, I figured that one out. The whole concept of Torito is a bit alien to > Alpha. > > > setcdboot alpha-boot.iso /boot/cdboot > > setcdboot alpha-liveFS.iso /boot/cdboot > > Right, thanks. I'll post results for other systems once I've tested them Make sure you have a kernel in the root of the CD filesystem too otherwise there is nothing for /boot/cdboot to load... -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 2:21:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5F23D08 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA20536; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA18462; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:21:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:21:24 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Doug Rabson Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha Message-ID: <20000214022124.A18442@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list References: <20000213202719.B25640@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dfr@nlsystems.com on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 09:49:17AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 09:49:17AM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: > Make sure you have a kernel in the root of the CD filesystem too otherwise > there is nothing for /boot/cdboot to load... ``make release'' takes care of that now. :-) -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 11:48:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.khmere.com (216-59-86-175.usa2.flashcom.net [216.59.86.175]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651C84235 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from getrelevant.com (IDENT:nathan@newwerk.getrelevant.com [63.211.149.44]) by ns3.khmere.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01764 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:49:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38A85C2C.C66243B8@getrelevant.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:49:00 -0800 From: Nathan Organization: Getrelevant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13_SIS i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Alpha kernels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forgive me if but I have a question. I have 2 alpha station 200's and I noticed that the FreebSD4.0-200xxx-CURRENT kernels are about 3.6+ megs. I re-made the kernel several times reducing the number of supported items even atapi support but I still have a kernel thats around 2.7+megs. I am new to alpha so I duuno if the large size is normal ? or are the kernels larger for alphas than intel based kernels ? I know that I can get an Intel kernel down to around 1.2megs. Also is the 20164a an EV4 or EV5 ? and what is a EV4 and EV5 ? Thank you nathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 11:50:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44384AA7 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id UAA09205; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:23:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01066; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:04:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:04:15 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Cc: Doug Rabson Subject: Re: creating bootable cd for alpha Message-ID: <20000214200415.C811@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <20000213202719.B25640@yedi.iaf.nl> <20000214022124.A18442@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000214022124.A18442@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@NUXI.com on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 02:21:24AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 02:21:24AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 09:49:17AM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: > > Make sure you have a kernel in the root of the CD filesystem too otherwise > > there is nothing for /boot/cdboot to load... > > ``make release'' takes care of that now. :-) Oh yes, and very well too, thank you ;-) Today I tested a CD-booted install and a subsequent buildworld on an AlphaServer 1000A (Noritake) 5/400. Works just fine. W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 11:56:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from calis.blacksun.org (calis.blacksun.org [168.100.186.40]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D2A4144 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by calis.blacksun.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F23218E; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calis.blacksun.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED27549ED; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:57:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:57:48 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: Nathan Cc: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Alpha kernels In-Reply-To: <38A85C2C.C66243B8@getrelevant.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > support but I still have a kernel thats around 2.7+megs. My kernels sit at about 2.5 Megs although they are on the lean side. > I am new to > alpha so I duuno if the large size is normal ? Yes > or are the kernels larger for alphas than intel based kernels ? Yes > Also is the 20164a an EV4 or EV5 ? and what is a EV4 and EV5 ? EV5 AFAIK -don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 12:43:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670E93FD1 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08373; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA16985; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:43:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:42:59 -0500 (EST) To: Nathan Cc: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Alpha kernels In-Reply-To: <38A85C2C.C66243B8@getrelevant.com> References: <38A85C2C.C66243B8@getrelevant.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14504.26589.393835.493396@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nathan writes: > Forgive me if but I have a question. > > I have 2 alpha station 200's and I noticed that the > FreebSD4.0-200xxx-CURRENT kernels are about 3.6+ megs. I re-made the > kernel several times reducing the number of supported items even atapi > support but I still have a kernel thats around 2.7+megs. I am new to > alpha so I duuno if the large size is normal ? Yes, that is normal. > or are the kernels larger for alphas than intel based kernels ? > I know that I can get an Intel kernel down to around 1.2megs. > > Also is the 20164a an EV4 or EV5 ? and what is a EV4 and EV5 ? You mean 21064a. They are EV45s The 'cpu EVx' line in the config file does absolutely nothing of any use, so it does not matter which of EV4 or EV5 you put there. It exists only to keep config happy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 13:12:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B069E4049 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115218>; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:13:31 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Support for AlphaServer 4100 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Feb15.081331est.115218@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:13:29 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone comment on why FreeBSD/alpha isn't supported on the AS4100 and/or how difficult it would be to add such support. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 13:25:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B523F82 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23136; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:25:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA75889; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:25:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:25:53 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Nathan Cc: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Alpha kernels Message-ID: <20000214132553.A17797@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" References: <38A85C2C.C66243B8@getrelevant.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38A85C2C.C66243B8@getrelevant.com>; from nboeger@getrelevant.com on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 11:49:00AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 11:49:00AM -0800, Nathan wrote: > or are the kernels larger for alphas than intel based kernels ? Yes this is a RISC vs. CISC thing. Kernels for Sparc would be bigger than i386 too. Plus the 64bit vs. 32bit ints also contributes some to the larger size. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 13:27:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (zmamail01.zma.compaq.com [161.114.64.101]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235F43F06 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 92BB27F7; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.42]) by zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7401B71F; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1JHGAJ69>; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:27:21 -0500 Message-ID: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> From: "Waite, Michael" To: 'Peter Jeremy' , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Support for AlphaServer 4100 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:27:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. We have sent an AS4100 quad machine to them to assist with making that a reality. -----Mike -----Original Message----- From: Peter Jeremy [mailto:peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 4:13 PM To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Support for AlphaServer 4100 Can anyone comment on why FreeBSD/alpha isn't supported on the AS4100 and/or how difficult it would be to add such support. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 13:33:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B9848BF for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01024; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200002142145.NAA01024@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Waite, Michael" Cc: "'Peter Jeremy'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:27:19 EST." <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:45:03 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. That's been a killer for a while now; it looks like some progress might actually be made soon, as we have finally gotten our mitts onto a box small enough to send to the UK. (No offense intended to Compaq here; just our inability to ship something quite as studly as a DS20 that far in safety.) > We have sent an AS4100 quad machine to them to assist with making that a > reality. I believe that Matt Jacob was working hard to add support for the 4100/8100 (Rawhide?) families in time for the 4.0 release. I'm not sure he'll make the deadline, but this has indeed largely been facilitated by Compaq's loaner. I expect that Matt will have something to say on the topic when he runs over this thread. > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 14:14:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23484C73 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115202>; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:12:32 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 In-reply-to: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com>; from Michael.Waite@Compaq.com on Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 08:28:14AM +1100 To: "Waite, Michael" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Feb15.091232est.115202@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:12:31 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-Feb-15 08:28:14 +1100, "Waite, Michael" wrote: >Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. I presume this means `FreeBSD won't boot on an SMP-capable box', rather than `FreeBSD can't see/use more than 1 CPU in an SMP box'. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 14:32:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31CA4DED for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11217; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA17251; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:29:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:29:06 -0500 (EST) To: Peter Jeremy Cc: "Waite, Michael" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 In-Reply-To: <00Feb15.091232est.115202@border.alcanet.com.au> References: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> <00Feb15.091232est.115202@border.alcanet.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14504.32958.278472.861071@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Jeremy writes: > On 2000-Feb-15 08:28:14 +1100, "Waite, Michael" wrote: > >Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. > > I presume this means `FreeBSD won't boot on an SMP-capable box', > rather than `FreeBSD can't see/use more than 1 CPU in an SMP box'. > It means the latter: 'FreeBSD can't see/use more than 1 CPU in an SMP box' We've been able to boot on DS20s for quite some time now, but we can use only 1 CPU. As Mike Smith mentioned, Matt Jacob has AlphaServer 8x00 support in the works. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 14:32:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from calis.blacksun.org (calis.blacksun.org [168.100.186.40]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C834E43DE for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by calis.blacksun.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 682798E; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calis.blacksun.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6315849ED; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:31:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:31:38 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: "Waite, Michael" Cc: 'Peter Jeremy' , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Support for AlphaServer 4100 In-Reply-To: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. FreeBSD-Alpha doesn't support SMP. Sorry but I felt the need to qualify this should random people run across this thread. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 14:32:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailext02.compaq.com (mailext02.compaq.com [207.18.199.33]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A765105 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailext02.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 1E7E39A9C9; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:30:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailint02.im.hou.compaq.com (mailint02.compaq.com [207.18.199.35]) by mailext02.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165D890D84; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:30:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by mailint02.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id B8B46BC4D2; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:30:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.52]) by mailint02.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB1CB2A47; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:30:06 -0600 (CST) Received: by exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1JG90RLV>; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:30:11 -0500 Message-ID: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2E@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> From: "Waite, Michael" To: 'Peter Jeremy' Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Support for AlphaServer 4100 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:25:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can boot FreeBSD on an SMP capable system. You just need to set "cpu_enabled 1" at the SRM. By default it is set to "f" ----Mike -----Original Message----- From: Peter Jeremy [mailto:peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 5:13 PM To: Waite, Michael Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 On 2000-Feb-15 08:28:14 +1100, "Waite, Michael" wrote: >Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. I presume this means `FreeBSD won't boot on an SMP-capable box', rather than `FreeBSD can't see/use more than 1 CPU in an SMP box'. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 14:32:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailext03.compaq.com (mailext03.compaq.com [207.18.199.41]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A184B30 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailext03.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 583DD151F8B; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:32:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailint02.im.hou.compaq.com (mailint02.compaq.com [207.18.199.35]) by mailext03.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D98148506; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:32:39 -0600 (CST) Received: by mailint02.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id E93A6BC4CC; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:32:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.52]) by mailint02.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B80B2A42; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:32:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1JG90RNX>; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:32:38 -0500 Message-ID: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A30@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> From: "Waite, Michael" To: 'Don' Cc: 'Peter Jeremy' , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Support for AlphaServer 4100 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:32:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would like to add "not yet" to that comment. :-) -----Mike -----Original Message----- From: Don [mailto:don@calis.blacksun.org] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 5:32 PM To: Waite, Michael Cc: 'Peter Jeremy'; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Support for AlphaServer 4100 > Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. FreeBSD-Alpha doesn't support SMP. Sorry but I felt the need to qualify this should random people run across this thread. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 14:52:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607FB532B for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28547; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:45:43 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:45:20 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Waite, Michael" Cc: "'Peter Jeremy'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Support for AlphaServer 4100 In-Reply-To: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Waite, Michael wrote: > Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. > > We have sent an AS4100 quad machine to them to assist with making that a > reality. Yes, Michael, I know :-) > > -----Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Jeremy [mailto:peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au] > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 4:13 PM > To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Support for AlphaServer 4100 > > > Can anyone comment on why FreeBSD/alpha isn't supported on the AS4100 > and/or how difficult it would be to add such support. > > Peter > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 15:13:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED81F4F8C for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28539; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:45:19 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:44:55 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 In-Reply-To: <00Feb15.081331est.115218@border.alcanet.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is hot on my list. I've gotten 8200 support done and I was supposed to finish the 4100 support RSN- too many fires... It'll appear RSN tho... On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Can anyone comment on why FreeBSD/alpha isn't supported on the AS4100 > and/or how difficult it would be to add such support. > > Peter > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 15:16: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE424BC1; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id AAA19638; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 00:02:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA77903; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:02:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:02:53 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Smith Cc: "Waite, Michael" , "'Peter Jeremy'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 Message-ID: <20000214230253.C77766@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> <200002142145.NAA01024@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200002142145.NAA01024@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 01:45:03PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 01:45:03PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. > > That's been a killer for a while now; it looks like some progress might > actually be made soon, as we have finally gotten our mitts onto a box > small enough to send to the UK. (No offense intended to Compaq here; > just our inability to ship something quite as studly as a DS20 that far > in safety.) Duh. Compaq logistics should very well be capable of sending anything anywhere (including the UK ;-) So, assuming CPQ US handles shipping things should work out just fine. If they need a CPQ middleman in the EC they can drop me a line at my Compaq email address. > > We have sent an AS4100 quad machine to them to assist with making that a > > reality. > > I believe that Matt Jacob was working hard to add support for the > 4100/8100 (Rawhide?) families in time for the 4.0 release. I'm not sure Yep, Rawhide is 4000/4100. 8200/8400 is Turbolaser which is a different beast. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 15:16:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DD04E1D for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id AAA19642; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 00:02:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA77914; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:04:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:04:35 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Waite, Michael" Cc: "'Peter Jeremy'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 Message-ID: <20000214230435.D77766@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A2B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com>; from Michael.Waite@compaq.com on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 04:27:19PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 04:27:19PM -0500, Waite, Michael wrote: > Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. > > We have sent an AS4100 quad machine to them to assist with making that a > reality. Cool. ES40 ('Clipper') would also be a cool machine. Bit pricey maybe. I could probably borrow some lab time at work to test on our SMP ES40 and AS4100. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 15:22:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (zmamail01.zma.compaq.com [161.114.64.101]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9094031; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 98400150; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.42]) by zmamail01.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8936E317; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1JHGAMBL>; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:15:36 -0500 Message-ID: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C2A31@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> From: "Waite, Michael" To: 'Wilko Bulte' , Mike Smith Cc: 'Peter Jeremy' , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Support for AlphaServer 4100 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:14:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Compaq logistics" have nothing to do with getting an SMP box to the UK. I have my normal job to do here besides trying to accomodate everyone that needs systems across the globe. It is happening as was already mentioned. Thanks for your insightful comment anyhow. -----Mike -----Original Message----- From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wilko@yedi.iaf.nl] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 5:03 PM To: Mike Smith Cc: Waite, Michael; 'Peter Jeremy'; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 01:45:03PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. > > That's been a killer for a while now; it looks like some progress might > actually be made soon, as we have finally gotten our mitts onto a box > small enough to send to the UK. (No offense intended to Compaq here; > just our inability to ship something quite as studly as a DS20 that far > in safety.) Duh. Compaq logistics should very well be capable of sending anything anywhere (including the UK ;-) So, assuming CPQ US handles shipping things should work out just fine. If they need a CPQ middleman in the EC they can drop me a line at my Compaq email address. > > We have sent an AS4100 quad machine to them to assist with making that a > > reality. > > I believe that Matt Jacob was working hard to add support for the > 4100/8100 (Rawhide?) families in time for the 4.0 release. I'm not sure Yep, Rawhide is 4000/4100. 8200/8400 is Turbolaser which is a different beast. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 15:54: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4765846 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28786; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:34:15 -0800 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:33:52 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Peter Jeremy Cc: "Waite, Michael" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 In-Reply-To: <00Feb15.091232est.115202@border.alcanet.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2000-Feb-15 08:28:14 +1100, "Waite, Michael" wrote: > >Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. > > I presume this means `FreeBSD won't boot on an SMP-capable box', > rather than `FreeBSD can't see/use more than 1 CPU in an SMP box'. > No, no, no... FreeBSD boots an SMP-capable alpha just fine (see below). It's just that we don't do anything with the other CPUs yet. The order in how I was going to do this was get 8200/4100 support done properly. Then do the cross-call support like current x86 does things. -matt WARNING: 8192 bytes not available for msgbuf in last cluster (32768 used) Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #9: Sun Feb 6 00:02:21 PST 2000 mjacob@mother.nas.nasa.gov:/usr/src/sys/compile/MOTHER AlphaServer 8400 AlphaServer 8200 5/440, 437MHz 8192 byte page size, 2 processors. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x10000500020116 real memory = 2144698368 (2094432K bytes) avail memory = 2088140800 (2039200K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000600000. md0: Malloc disk tlsbcpu0: at tlsb0 node 4 gbus0 on tlsbcpu0 zsc0: on gbus0 offset 0x10000000 zs0 on zsc0 channel A zs1 on zsc0 channel B mcclock0: on gbus0 offset 0x20000000 tlsbcpu1: at tlsb0 node 4 tlsbmem0: at tlsb0 node 5 kft2: at tlsb0 node 8 dwlpx0: on kft2 hose 0 pci0: on pcib0 isp0: port 0x87fff900-0x87fff9ff mem 0x87fac000-0x87facfff irq 0 at device 0.0 on pci0 isp0: Node 8 Hose 0 Slot 0 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8400 intpin 1 isp0: driver is using old-style compatability shims isp1: port 0x87fffa00-0x87fffaff mem 0x87fad000-0x87fadfff irq 4 at device 1.0 on pci0 isp1: Node 8 Hose 0 Slot 1 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8401 intpin 1 isp1: driver is using old-style compatability shims de0: port 0x87fffb00-0x87fffb7f mem 0x87fabd00-0x87fabd7f irq 8 at device 2.0 on pci0 de0: Node 8 Hose 0 Slot 2 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8402 intpin 1 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:00:f8:23:17:c6 de0: driver is using old-style compatability shims pci0: unknown card (vendor=0x1011, dev=0x000f) at 3.0 irq 12 isp2: port 0x87fffd00-0x87fffdff mem 0x87fae000-0x87faefff irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 isp2: Node 8 Hose 0 Slot 4 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8404 intpin 1 isp2: driver is using old-style compatability shims isp3: port 0x87fffe00-0x87fffeff mem 0x87faf000-0x87faffff irq 20 at device 5.0 on pci0 isp3: Node 8 Hose 0 Slot 5 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8405 intpin 1 isp3: driver is using old-style compatability shims de1: port 0x87ffff00-0x87ffff7f mem 0x87fabf00-0x87fabf7f irq 24 at device 6.0 on pci0 de1: Node 8 Hose 0 Slot 6 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8406 intpin 1 de1: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de1: address 00:00:f8:23:17:c2 de1: driver is using old-style compatability shims kft1: at tlsb0 node 7 dwlpx1: on kft1 hose 2 pci1: on pcib1 de2: port 0x77fffd00-0x77fffd7f mem 0x77f9df00-0x77f9df7f irq 0 at device 0.0 on pci1 de2: Node 7 Hose 2 Slot 0 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8320 intpin 1 de2: SMC 9332BDT 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de2: address 00:00:c0:3c:a4:ef de2: enabling 10baseT port de2: driver is using old-style compatability shims isp4: port 0x77fffe00-0x77fffeff mem 0x77f9e000-0x77f9efff irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci1 isp4: Node 7 Hose 2 Slot 4 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8324 intpin 1 isp4: driver is using old-style compatability shims isp5: port 0x77ffff00-0x77ffffff mem 0x77f9f000-0x77f9ffff irq 32 at device 8.0 on pci1 isp5: Node 7 Hose 2 Slot 8 interrupting at TLSB vector 0x8328 intpin 1 isp5: driver is using old-style compatability shims kft0: at tlsb0 node 6 dwlpx0: node 8 hose 0 error interrupt HPC 0: ERR=0x0000c001; DMA read from Memory, Failing Address 0x0 Illegal CSR Address Error Nonexistent PCI Address Error Timecounter "alpha" frequency 437004286 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle de0: autosense failed: cable problem? de1: autosense failed: cable problem? isp3: target 1 lun 0 had an unexpected bus free isp3: target 1 lun 0 had an unexpected bus free isp3: target 1 lun 0 had an unexpected bus free isp3: target 1 lun 0 had an unexpected bus free isp3: target 1 lun 0 had an unexpected bus free Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da1a da3 at isp4 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 9407MB (4816593 2048 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 299C) da4 at isp4 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da4: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da4: 9407MB (4816593 2048 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 299C) da5 at isp4 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da5: 9407MB (4816593 2048 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 299C) da6 at isp4 bus 0 target 10 lun 0 da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da6: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da6: 9407MB (4816593 2048 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 299C) da7 at isp4 bus 0 target 11 lun 0 da7: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da7: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da7: 9407MB (4816593 2048 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 299C) da2 at isp3 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) da1 at isp3 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) da0 at isp3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) cd0 at isp3 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 4.032MB/s transfers (4.032MHz, offset 12) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present WARNING: / was not properly dismounted nfs server caves:/home: not responding nfs server caves:/home: is alive again nfs server caves:/space/FreeBSD/cvs-src: not responding nfs server caves:/space/FreeBSD/cvs-src: is alive again nfs server caves:/usr/pkgsrc/distfiles: not responding nfs server caves:/usr/pkgsrc/distfiles: is alive again cmd ntpd pid 80 tried to use non-present sched_get_priority_max cmd ntpd pid 80 tried to use non-present sched_setscheduler de2: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising TX threshold to 96|256) de2: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising TX threshold to 128|512) de2: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising TX threshold to 160|1024) de2: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (switching to store-and-forward mode) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 16:20:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DDD4C2D for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:06:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04904; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200002150017.QAA04904@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Michael.Waite@compaq.com, "'Peter Jeremy'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for AlphaServer 4100 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:02:53 +0100." <20000214230253.C77766@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:17:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 01:45:03PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Well for one, FreeBSD doesn't support SMP. > > > > That's been a killer for a while now; it looks like some progress might > > actually be made soon, as we have finally gotten our mitts onto a box > > small enough to send to the UK. (No offense intended to Compaq here; > > just our inability to ship something quite as studly as a DS20 that far > > in safety.) > > Duh. Compaq logistics should very well be capable of sending anything > anywhere (including the UK ;-) So, assuming CPQ US handles shipping > things should work out just fine. If they need a CPQ middleman in the EC > they can drop me a line at my Compaq email address. We've tried flying this before, but never had any luck. I get the impression that there are regional issues within Compaq that make it moderately difficult. There's also a terrible disaster story associated with trying to get a machine to Peter Wemm a few years back that has left the Project a bit chary of this sort of thing. At any rate, we have a workaround as soon as we can get this UP2000 properly sorted; there are parts in transit from API that should take care of that, and it'll be on its way as soon after that as practical. Michael has told us there's another 4100 on its way which will probably replace the UP2000 as 'beast', unless it finds a better home. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 14 18:46: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC353E18 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115251>; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:46:56 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Alpha kernels In-reply-to: <20000214132553.A17797@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@NUXI.com on Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 08:27:47AM +1100 To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Message-Id: <00Feb15.134656est.115251@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <38A85C2C.C66243B8@getrelevant.com> <20000214132553.A17797@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:46:55 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-Feb-15 08:27:47 +1100, David O'Brien wrote: >Yes this is a RISC vs. CISC thing. Though in my experience, i386 code tends to quite sparse for a CISC architecture. Intel propaganda notwithstanding, the lack of 16-bit offsets seems to make real-world i386 code significantly larger than say the M68K. > Plus the 64bit vs. 32bit ints also contributes some to >the larger size. My guess is that this is the major contributing factor. I don't know how much effort (if any) has been applied to removing padding from kernel data structures when compiled with 64-bit longs/pointers. In any case, the FreeBSD kernel is still small compared to Digital UNIX: # size /vmunix text data bss dec hex 4420416 747008 1201440 6368864 612e60 In the case of kernels, the size is also affected by the complexity of things like interrupt handling, the MMU and device drivers. The SRM gives the Alpha an advantage here. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 15 8:40: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93754BC7 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (fujimori@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id BAA05426 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:37:42 +0900 Message-Id: <200002151637.BAA05426@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 3.4R kernel freezes Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:37:42 +0000 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear listers, I have installed FreeBSD3.4R for AXP to my PC164LX. Its memory size is 128MB and the same amount of swap was created due to lack of spaces. I tested to see what happens when the out-of-swap-space occurs. To my surprise, the system freezes, which reminds me an old-day Linux. # In Linux 2.2.14/x86, some important fixes are made. # I am running FreeBSD3.3R on my PCs, and they are robust in a similar situation. Have anyone of you experienced the same system freeze before? Thank you for your attention. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 15 9:17:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CA14CE6 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29284; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA07665; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:14:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:14:27 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.4R kernel freezes Message-ID: <20000215091427.C76552@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <200002151637.BAA05426@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200002151637.BAA05426@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp>; from fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp on Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 01:37:42AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 01:37:42AM +0000, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > I have installed FreeBSD3.4R for AXP to my PC164LX. IMHO, you should install the 4.0-RC snapshot. The 4.0 on the Alpha is a *lot* more mature than 3.x on the Alpha. I don't know of a single FreeBSD developer with 3.x installed on their Alpha. 4.0 is really the Big Bang release for the Alpha. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 15 17:22:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from phy.ucsf.EDU (phy.ucsf.edu [128.218.64.200]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B7D4E5B for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from amadeus.ucsf.edu (dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu [128.218.65.107]) by phy.ucsf.EDU (8.8.6/GSC4.27) with ESMTP id QAA27958 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by amadeus.ucsf.edu (8.8.6) id QAA01892; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:43:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:43:09 -0800 (PST) From: Dirk Kleinhesselink X-Sender: dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an AlphaStation 200 with Digital UNIX and NetBSD on it and I tried to install the FreeBSD/alpha 4.0 release candidate. It fails because it does not recognize the TGA video card and then switches to the serial port. As far as I know, the machine has a standard DEC ZLXp video card in it. The boot messages from FreeBSD are: . . pci0: unknown card (vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0004) at 13.0 irq 10 . . NetBSD/alpha 1.4.1 reports: . tga0: at pci0 dev 13 function 0: DC21030 step C, board type T8-02 tga0: 1152 x 900, 8bpp, Bt485 RAMDAC tga0: interrupting at isa irq 10 . Is there anyway I can get FreeBSD 4.0 to use/recognize the video card for at least a text mode ? Thanks, Dirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 15 18:24:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BB042AC for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03182; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:20:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200002160220.SAA03182@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Dirk Kleinhesselink Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:43:09 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:20:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > NetBSD/alpha 1.4.1 reports ... > tga0: at pci0 dev 13 function 0: DC21030 step C, board type T8-02 ... > Is there anyway I can get FreeBSD 4.0 to use/recognize the video card for > at least a text mode ? No. The TGA is not supported. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 15 21:43:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF264439 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA33284; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:43:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA09401; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:43:50 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Dirk Kleinhesselink Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 Message-ID: <20000215214350.F76552@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dkleinh@phy.ucsf.EDU on Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 04:43:09PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 04:43:09PM -0800, Dirk Kleinhesselink wrote: > to install the FreeBSD/alpha 4.0 release candidate. It fails because it > does not recognize the TGA video card and then switches to the serial > port. This is probably my fault. I made the serial console users lives easier, but it seems at the expense of monitor+keyboard console users. I will fix this before 4.0-RELEASE. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 11:12:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42D937B538 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:12:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkleinh@phy.ucsf.EDU) Received: from phy.ucsf.EDU (phy.ucsf.edu [128.218.64.200]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B02F132E3 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from amadeus.ucsf.edu (dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu [128.218.65.107]) by phy.ucsf.EDU (8.8.6/GSC4.27) with ESMTP id LAA15287 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by amadeus.ucsf.edu (8.8.6) id LAA02105; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:12:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:12:21 -0800 (PST) From: Dirk Kleinhesselink X-Sender: dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: <200002160220.SAA03182@mass.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > NetBSD/alpha 1.4.1 reports > ... > > tga0: at pci0 dev 13 function 0: DC21030 step C, board type T8-02 > ... > > Is there anyway I can get FreeBSD 4.0 to use/recognize the video card for > > at least a text mode ? > > No. The TGA is not supported. If I can't use it for a non-graphic text console, what card can I use for this ? Or is FreeBSD/alpha only a head-less OS ? I find it very bad that the official DEC/Compaq systems don't work with FreeBSD, given that XFree86 has support for TGA and the *other guys* (Linux/NetBSD) can handle them... > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 11:20:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5C637B555 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:20:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638E4132ED for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04546; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA22524; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:19:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:19:58 -0500 (EST) To: Dirk Kleinhesselink Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: References: <200002160220.SAA03182@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14506.63188.74419.101940@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dirk Kleinhesselink writes: > > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > NetBSD/alpha 1.4.1 reports > > ... > > > tga0: at pci0 dev 13 function 0: DC21030 step C, board type T8-02 > > ... > > > Is there anyway I can get FreeBSD 4.0 to use/recognize the video card for > > > at least a text mode ? > > > > No. The TGA is not supported. > If I can't use it for a non-graphic text console, what card can I use for > this ? Or is FreeBSD/alpha only a head-less OS ? I find it very bad that > the official DEC/Compaq systems don't work with FreeBSD, given that > XFree86 has support for TGA and the *other guys* (Linux/NetBSD) can handle > them... PCI VGA cards will work, and will run XFree86. I have personal experiance with an S3 ViRGE based Diamond card on an AS200. I run a number of AS600, AS500 and my own Miata with 3D-labs based cards (Powerstorm 4d10, as well as $30 clones). We had somebody who was going to write TGA support, but he never produced anything. If TGA support is important to you, consider writing it yourself. The documentation is apparently readily available (ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/ec-n0683-72.ps.gz) Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 13:25:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9A537B54D for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:25:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86432132EB for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id WAA21372; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:17:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02830; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:34:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:34:19 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Dirk Kleinhesselink Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 Message-ID: <20000216213419.B2716@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <200002160220.SAA03182@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dkleinh@phy.ucsf.EDU on Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 11:12:21AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 11:12:21AM -0800, Dirk Kleinhesselink wrote: > > > Is there anyway I can get FreeBSD 4.0 to use/recognize the video card for > > > at least a text mode ? > > > > No. The TGA is not supported. > If I can't use it for a non-graphic text console, what card can I use for > this ? Or is FreeBSD/alpha only a head-less OS ? I find it very bad that I've used S3Virge etc cards with success. Even an ISA ET4000 works in my Miata MX5. > the official DEC/Compaq systems don't work with FreeBSD, given that > XFree86 has support for TGA and the *other guys* (Linux/NetBSD) can handle > them... I'm afraid this means that you will have to write TGA support code yourself. It probably boils down to people owning a TGA and having enough time and willing to spend the time. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 13:30:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7832437B5F2 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:30:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkleinh@phy.ucsf.EDU) Received: from phy.ucsf.EDU (phy.ucsf.edu [128.218.64.200]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30FF132E5 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from amadeus.ucsf.edu (dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu [128.218.65.107]) by phy.ucsf.EDU (8.8.6/GSC4.27) with ESMTP id NAA12504 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by amadeus.ucsf.edu (8.8.6) id NAA02130; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:30:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:30:37 -0800 (PST) From: Dirk Kleinhesselink X-Sender: dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: <20000216213419.B2716@yedi.iaf.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 11:12:21AM -0800, Dirk Kleinhesselink wrote: > > > > > Is there anyway I can get FreeBSD 4.0 to use/recognize the video card for > > > > at least a text mode ? > > > > > > No. The TGA is not supported. > > If I can't use it for a non-graphic text console, what card can I use for > > this ? Or is FreeBSD/alpha only a head-less OS ? I find it very bad that > > I've used S3Virge etc cards with success. Even an ISA ET4000 works in my > Miata MX5. > > > the official DEC/Compaq systems don't work with FreeBSD, given that > > XFree86 has support for TGA and the *other guys* (Linux/NetBSD) can handle > > them... > > I'm afraid this means that you will have to write TGA support code > yourself. It probably boils down to people owning a TGA and having enough > time and willing to spend the time. I have no idea how to write a driver -- I'm an old FORTRAN coder. I guess I'm confused, because FreeBSD won't boot from the ARC/AlphaBIOS and so the only machines one can use for it are "real DEC/Compaq" machines -- I would've figured that the DEC/Compaq machines that ran UNIX (or OpenVMS) would run FreeBSD, but I guess this isn't the case. Are there any video cards supported by Digital UNIX/Tru64/OpenVMS that will work with FreeBSD ? > > -- > Wilko Bulte > Arnhem, The Netherlands > WWW : http://www.tcja.nl > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 13:45:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6F737B630 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:45:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE32132E4 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08956; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA22957; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:44:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:44:49 -0500 (EST) To: Dirk Kleinhesselink Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: References: <20000216213419.B2716@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14507.6310.52769.784517@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dirk Kleinhesselink writes: > I'm confused, because FreeBSD won't boot from the ARC/AlphaBIOS and so the > only machines one can use for it are "real DEC/Compaq" machines -- I Specifically, what hardware are you talking about? It might not be as bad as you think. You can run SRM on the PC164 series of machines, as well as on the a series of Miatas (eg, DPW433a). The only machines which are really locked into AlphaBios/arc are the NT-only DEC branded machines like the Alpha XL (233, 266, 300, 366, 433). > would've figured that the DEC/Compaq machines that ran UNIX (or > OpenVMS) would run FreeBSD, but I guess this isn't the case. Are there > any video cards supported by Digital UNIX/Tru64/OpenVMS that will > work with FreeBSD ? Off the top of my head, I would imagine that the Elsa Gloria Synergy should work just fine, as it is a 3D-labs Permedia2 based card. The S3-trio64 and the Mach64 cards which shipped in AlphaStations should also work. I had a Mach64 going in an AlphaStation200 about a year ago. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 13:58:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6044337B519 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:58:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Received: from calis.blacksun.org (calis.blacksun.org [168.100.186.40]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F48132E8 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by calis.blacksun.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F05E76; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calis.blacksun.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E1F49ED; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:59:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:59:18 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: Dirk Kleinhesselink Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well it appears that you have several choices here. Choice #1: I have an AlphaStation 200 and I currently use an S3 virge in it with absolutely no difficulties. If you wish you can choose to purchase one of these cards for about $25. Choice #2: You can also run Linux since it supports the TGA card. Choice #3: You can write the driver. To be honest, I agree with you. I think the FreeBSD Alpha team should get the TGA cards supported instead of working on useless stuff like SMP or OSF/1 compatability . Seriously though, noone has had the time, or the inclination (given the fact that the average virge card with s3 server outperforms the TGA hands down) to bother supporting the card. It may come but few people see a reason for it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 14:11:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F231837B53D for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:11:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445DC132E4 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09818; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:11:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA23005; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:11:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:11:04 -0500 (EST) To: Don Cc: Dirk Kleinhesselink , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14507.7789.62902.372667@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don writes: > Seriously though, noone has had the time, or the inclination (given the > fact that the average virge card with s3 server outperforms the TGA hands > down) to bother supporting the card. It may come but few people see a > reason for it. Yes, when I side-graded a handful of AS500s and AS600s sitting in a public lab from Tru64 to FreeBSD, I gave thought to spending time writing console support. And then I realized that I could buy new Permedia-based cards to replace the TGAs in these four machines for less than $200US. I quickly gave up the idea of spending time on it in favor of working on OSF/1 compat. In all seriousness, if there is somebody out there who is willing to write console support for for the TGA, I will be happy to mail you a ZLXp-E1. I have a small stack getting dusty in my desk drawer. This would not be an impossible task for somebody who has a little C programming experience. There is documentation for the chip, and there are concrete examples of how to program it (NetBSD's wscons, I imagine linux must support it too). Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 14:26:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988BD37B538 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cc@137.org) Received: from friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.236]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21425132E0 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ameslab.gov (friley-160-235.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.235]) by friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2793B123 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:26:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:26:44 -0600 From: Chris Csanady X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, ja, ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Netbooting.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, I have tried several things, but I have yet to get FreeBSD to boot over the network. These are test machines, and I need to have more than one OS on them. At first, I was trying bootp'ing the loader, but using a local filesystem as the root. It looks like the loader was not intended to be used this way though. Right now, I would be happy netbooting the entire system, but I can't get this to work either. I am using the Feb 8 snapshot, and I continually get the following: FreeBSD/alpha SRM net boot, Revision 0.1 (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Tue Feb 8 11:30:11 GMT 2000) Memory: 131072 k boot: ethernet address: 08:00:2b:86:77:45 net_open: server addr: 147.155.137.1 net_open: server path: /raid/diskless/ariel . . Mounting root from nfs:147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel no such device 'ariel' setrootbyname failed panic: nfs_mountroot: socreate(0000): 43 My bootptab entry looks like .default.freebsd:\ :sa=147.155.137.1:hd=/scl/boot:bf=netboot:\ :rp="147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel":\ :sm=255.255.254.0:\ :gw=147.155.136.252:\ :hn:ht=ether:vm=rfc1048:\ :ds=147.155.137.2,147.155.137.3: ariel:ip=147.155.137.91:ha=08002B867745:tc=.default.freebsd: and the fstab has 147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel / nfs rw 0 0 Am I misssing something? The nfs server is actually an Irix box if it matters. The bootp/tftp server is different.. Thanks, Chris Csanady To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 14:32: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5922037B551 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:32:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from don@calis.blacksun.org) Received: from calis.blacksun.org (calis.blacksun.org [168.100.186.40]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C6F132E3 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:31:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by calis.blacksun.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2EE8D76; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calis.blacksun.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DA149ED; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:32:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:32:46 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Dirk Kleinhesselink , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: <14507.7789.62902.372667@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In all seriousness, if there is somebody out there who is willing to > write console support for for the TGA, I will be happy to mail you a > ZLXp-E1. I would be happy to mail you all three of mine... please? > This would not be an impossible task for somebody who has a little C > programming experience. There is documentation for the chip, and > there are concrete examples of how to program it (NetBSD's wscons, I > imagine linux must support it too). The big problem with this chip originally was the lack of documentation. For a while noone was able to get hold of the chip specs to actually write the driver. Now that the specs are out, everyone I know has already replaced the card. -don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 14:33:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEB437B5E3 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:33:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from manning@uclink4.berkeley.edu) Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B482132E0 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (x130-65-210-24.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.24]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29585 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:33:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38AB256D.9462680E@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:32:13 -0800 From: manning@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd just like to throw out there that although i agree, it would be nice and simple to get even a semi-decent vid card in there, and out perform that old TGA chip, some of us have Multias ( yeah, laugh it up :P ), and we need the one and only pci slot for something else (like a second ethernet card -- it's my firewall). I don't know how many pci slots an AS200 has, but that's just something to consider. I suppose I'll end up doing that too, when i get a pcmcia ethernet card. In any case, it's just really handy to be able to use the TGA card, when that's all you can do. Also, If i DO put a video card in the PCI slot, and want to use that, how do i make it use it when it boots? will it automatically jump to using that card when it boots? -Jesse Don wrote: > > Well it appears that you have several choices here. > Choice #1: > I have an AlphaStation 200 and I currently use an S3 virge in it with > absolutely no difficulties. If you wish you can choose to purchase one of > these cards for about $25. > > Choice #2: > You can also run Linux since it supports the TGA card. > > Choice #3: > You can write the driver. > > > To be honest, I agree with you. I think the FreeBSD Alpha team should get > the TGA cards supported instead of working on useless stuff like SMP or > OSF/1 compatability . > > Seriously though, noone has had the time, or the inclination (given the > fact that the average virge card with s3 server outperforms the TGA hands > down) to bother supporting the card. It may come but few people see a > reason for it. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 14:35: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E6F37B551 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkleinh@phy.ucsf.EDU) Received: from phy.ucsf.EDU (phy.ucsf.edu [128.218.64.200]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F24132E5 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from amadeus.ucsf.edu (dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu [128.218.65.107]) by phy.ucsf.EDU (8.8.6/GSC4.27) with ESMTP id OAA09763; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by amadeus.ucsf.edu (8.8.6) id OAA02137; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:34:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:34:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dirk Kleinhesselink X-Sender: dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: <14507.6310.52769.784517@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Dirk Kleinhesselink writes: > > I'm confused, because FreeBSD won't boot from the ARC/AlphaBIOS and so the > > only machines one can use for it are "real DEC/Compaq" machines -- I > > Specifically, what hardware are you talking about? > > It might not be as bad as you think. You can run SRM on the PC164 > series of machines, as well as on the a series of Miatas (eg, > DPW433a). The only machines which are really locked into > AlphaBios/arc are the NT-only DEC branded machines like the Alpha XL > (233, 266, 300, 366, 433). I know -- I've got an Enorex PC164 366 at home that I bought from them with a cirrus 5446 PCI video card, IDE cdrom, IDE disk. It came with NT and I added a 2nd disk and installed RedHat Linux 4.2/5.1/5.2 on it. At some point I wanted to run *BSD on it and so I down loaded SRM console from Compaq/DEC web site and flashed that in -- however as my system was not SCSI, this caused some big problems. The PC164 will only show one of the two IDE controllers in with the SRM console. I bought a Tekram DC-390F (Symbios 53C875 based) controller, SCSI disk and SCSI cdrom for this and SRM would see these devices. I had to replace the Cirrus video card with a Diamond Stealth (S3) based card for Linux. This situation worked, but recently I got the Non-commercial copy of Tru64 5.0 and OpenVMS 7.2, which I thought I'd try and run. Tru64 would actually work with my PC164 system with the Tekram controller and the S3 video card, although it would only work with 16 colors and it complained that the SCSI controller was an unsupported 53C875 based card (i.e. it's not IntraServer, who make, I guess, the only official 53C87x based SCSI cards for Digipac products). I had no network with my 3com 905B controller. I administer a bunch of Alpha machines running DU and I got some parts to take home: TGA video card and Digital Ethernet card. Tru64 is happier and I have networking, but I cannot run OpenVMS with that -- OpenVMS fails with a message from IntraServer about an incorrect ROM for the PKA0% device -- my SCSI controller, obviously and it halts. Now, the TGA card I took home is actually a TGA2 card and even RedHat 6.1 won't work with it in X mode, although I can install it as a text console. The AlphaStation 200 here at work runs RedHat 6.1 just find with the plain old TGA card in it. I think I have an Elsa GLoria Synergy card and maybe that will work with FreeBSD. I'll try it. One question -- does anyone know about a SCSI controller that will work with OpenVMS besides the IntraServer cards ? The AlphaStation has an integrated Qlogic controller -- are there separate Qlogic controller cards? Thanks, Dirk > > > would've figured that the DEC/Compaq machines that ran UNIX (or > > OpenVMS) would run FreeBSD, but I guess this isn't the case. Are there > > any video cards supported by Digital UNIX/Tru64/OpenVMS that will > > work with FreeBSD ? > > Off the top of my head, I would imagine that the Elsa Gloria Synergy > should work just fine, as it is a 3D-labs Permedia2 based card. The > S3-trio64 and the Mach64 cards which shipped in AlphaStations should > also work. I had a Mach64 going in an AlphaStation200 about a year > ago. I think I have an Elsa Gloria card -- we have an XP-1000 here that I installed a 40D10 powerstorm card in -- the TGA2 card I have at home came from this machine. Along with the documentation for the XP-1000, I found another card in a sealed antistatic bag that has an ELSA sticker on it. All the documentation I found with all the cards was for NT, even though the machine was purchased with DU... Go figure. Anyway I'll try the ELSA card I found in my PC164 at home. > > Drew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin > Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu > Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 14:37:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E95F37B54B for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:37:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9D9132D6 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id XAA24680; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:23:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04075; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:08:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:08:16 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Dirk Kleinhesselink Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 Message-ID: <20000216230816.A4017@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <20000216213419.B2716@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dkleinh@phy.ucsf.EDU on Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 01:30:37PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 01:30:37PM -0800, Dirk Kleinhesselink wrote: > > > the official DEC/Compaq systems don't work with FreeBSD, given that > > > XFree86 has support for TGA and the *other guys* (Linux/NetBSD) can handle > > > them... > > > > I'm afraid this means that you will have to write TGA support code > > yourself. It probably boils down to people owning a TGA and having enough > > time and willing to spend the time. > I have no idea how to write a driver -- I'm an old FORTRAN coder. I guess > I'm confused, because FreeBSD won't boot from the ARC/AlphaBIOS and so the Correct, only SRM consoles work. There are very good reasons for that, the mailing list archives contain it all. ARC has PALcode too closely linked to what WinNT needs/wants/likes to be useful for Unix. > only machines one can use for it are "real DEC/Compaq" machines -- I > would've figured that the DEC/Compaq machines that ran UNIX (or > OpenVMS) would run FreeBSD, but I guess this isn't the case. Are there > any video cards supported by Digital UNIX/Tru64/OpenVMS that will > work with FreeBSD ? Yes, for example the Number9 cards (S3 based) that are in some of the Alpha server machines. And the DEC S3 864 (IIRC) that is in my PWS433 (Miata) Alpha also works. In general: the more exotic (from the PC standpoint) the cards are the less likely they are to be widespread. The problem is, I think, that things like the PowerStorm series of graphics cards don't have programming docs available. And they are not 'mainstream'. Like it or not, the best chance for support has hardware that is well-used in the Intel/PC world. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl The FreeBSD Project: http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 15:37:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A516237B564 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D93E132EF for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:36:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01400; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:49:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200002162349.PAA01400@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Dirk Kleinhesselink Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:12:21 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:49:03 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > NetBSD/alpha 1.4.1 reports > > ... > > > tga0: at pci0 dev 13 function 0: DC21030 step C, board type T8-02 > > ... > > > Is there anyway I can get FreeBSD 4.0 to use/recognize the video card for > > > at least a text mode ? > > > > No. The TGA is not supported. > If I can't use it for a non-graphic text console, what card can I use for > this ? Any other functional VGA adapter. I've had good results with Matrox and #9 adapters; the DS20 that I'm using as a workstation has an 8M Elsa something-or-other in it that works just fine. > I find it very bad that > the official DEC/Compaq systems don't work with FreeBSD, given that > XFree86 has support for TGA and the *other guys* (Linux/NetBSD) can handle > them... I've never seen an "official DEC/Compaq" system with TGA other than a Multia; everything they've ever shipped us has either been headless, or had a real video card in it. As far as supporting the TGA is concerned; if someone were to step forward with the code, I'm sure we'd take it. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 17:49:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C144837B927; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:49:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED527132EF; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14474; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA23351; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:48:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:48:34 -0500 (EST) To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 In-Reply-To: <200002162349.PAA01400@mass.cdrom.com> References: <200002162349.PAA01400@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14507.21163.155875.893371@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith writes: > I've never seen an "official DEC/Compaq" system with TGA other than a > Multia; everything they've ever shipped us has either been headless, or > had a real video card in it. As far as supporting the TGA is concerned; > if someone were to step forward with the code, I'm sure we'd take it. Not true. Most of the AlphaStation 200, 500 & 600 shipped with TGA cards. They're essentially the same chip as DEC had been using on their older TurboChannel boxes, but on a PCI interface. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 16 22:38:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A7237B602 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:38:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77485132E3 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id HAA10149; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:34:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04449; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:33:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:33:29 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Don , Dirk Kleinhesselink , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help installing FreeBSD 4.0 on AlphaStation 200 Message-ID: <20000216233329.A4317@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <14507.7789.62902.372667@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <14507.7789.62902.372667@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 05:11:04PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 05:11:04PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Don writes: > > > Seriously though, noone has had the time, or the inclination (given the > > fact that the average virge card with s3 server outperforms the TGA hands > > down) to bother supporting the card. It may come but few people see a > > reason for it. ... > In all seriousness, if there is somebody out there who is willing to > write console support for for the TGA, I will be happy to mail you a > ZLXp-E1. I have a small stack getting dusty in my desk drawer. This > would not be an impossible task for somebody who has a little C I guess this is something a Multia owner might interest. Multia, having embedded TGA and only on PCI slot, would really benefit from a TGA driver. [on the other hand, Multia is speed-wise a bit end of the road.. :( ) -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl The FreeBSD Project: http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 17 0:12:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC2237B622 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:12:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cracauer@knight.cons.org) Received: from knight.cons.org (knight.cons.org [194.233.237.195]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24DF132E4 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:12:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by knight.cons.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08700 for alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:12:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:12:38 +0100 From: Martin Cracauer To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Does FreeBSD/alpha support SA_SIGINFO? Message-ID: <20000217091238.A8689@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I remember Doug said he added SA_SIGINFO shortly after i386 got it. If so, it should go into src/release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT. Please drop me a line or just add it if so. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ Tel.: (private) +4940 5221829 Fax.: (private) +4940 5228536 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 17 1:28:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DB637B682 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:28:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12LNES-000DYq-0U; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:28:20 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA38905; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:29:52 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:28:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Martin Cracauer Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD/alpha support SA_SIGINFO? In-Reply-To: <20000217091238.A8689@cons.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Martin Cracauer wrote: > I remember Doug said he added SA_SIGINFO shortly after i386 got it. > > If so, it should go into src/release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT. Please > drop me a line or just add it if so. I'm pretty sure this is not supported on the alpha. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 17 2:32:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F1137B6B8 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (fujimori@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id TAA03553 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:32:16 +0900 Message-Id: <200002171032.TAA03553@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: libXTrStub.so.6 not found error Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:32:16 +0000 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Listers, I have installed FreeBSD/Alpha 4.0 snap (0214). I am trying to compile some of language packages, but quite often I see the error message something to the effect: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXThrStub.so.6" not found When I installed the system, I choosed all. Is that object really included in 4.0 snap? Thanks for your attention. Regards, Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 17 5:57:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.cetlink.net (ns2.cetlink.net [209.198.2.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B73237B742 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 05:57:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@cetlink.net) Received: from CARTMAN (cartman.cetlink.net [209.198.61.152]) by ns2.cetlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA94901 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:58:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeff Wheat" To: Subject: Frontpage and Apache Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:58:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_352F_01BF7925.255A50D0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_352F_01BF7925.255A50D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone is interested, I have succeeded in getting Apache 1.3.11 and FrontPage 2000 to work under 4.0-20000214 on an AlphaStation 250 4/266. It was a very simple task to get this to work. I simply installed the osf_base from ports, untarred the fp40.alpha.tar.z file from ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/products/frontpage/ and that was all. I will be happy to submit a port module for this but would be unable to maintain it due to time restraints. On a different note, does anyone have the required pinouts needed to make a PS/2 style keyboard work with an AlphaStation 250? Cheers, Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_352F_01BF7925.255A50D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_352F_01BF7925.255A50D0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 17 8: 8:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.cetlink.net (ns2.cetlink.net [209.198.2.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD3D37B784 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:08:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@cetlink.net) Received: from CARTMAN (cartman.cetlink.net [209.198.61.152]) by ns2.cetlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA28028; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:08:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeff Wheat" To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: Subject: RE: Frontpage and Apache Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:08:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000217091444.W18774@stat.Duke.EDU> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If this is the case, is there anything special I need to do to get this to work? When I plug in a keyboard now, it doesn't work for me. The Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LEDs all strobe quickly and then on the serial console I get the following: >>>*** keyboard not plugged in ... Using the show command reveals: kbd_hardware_type PCXAL I have tried two different keyboards now. Any ideas? Regards, Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean O'Connell [mailto:sean@stat.Duke.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 9:15 AM > To: Jeff Wheat > Subject: Re: Frontpage and Apache > > > Jeff Wheat stated: > > On a different note, does anyone have the required pinouts > needed to make a > > PS/2 style > > keyboard work with an AlphaStation 250? > > Jeff- > > The alphastation 250 does use a ps/2 keyboard. > > S > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU > Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 > Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 17 10:12:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from phy.ucsf.EDU (phy.ucsf.edu [128.218.64.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D3337B79D for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkleinh@phy.ucsf.EDU) Received: from amadeus.ucsf.edu (dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu [128.218.65.107]) by phy.ucsf.EDU (8.8.6/GSC4.27) with ESMTP id KAA23402 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by amadeus.ucsf.edu (8.8.6) id KAA02431; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:12:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: Dirk Kleinhesselink X-Sender: dkleinh@amadeus.ucsf.edu To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: problem with Tekram DC-390F SCSI on 4.0 release candidate Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, I put an ELSA gloria synergy card in my AlphaPC164 box at home replacing the TGA2 card I had in there and this time I got a nice RedHat 6.1 GUI install. So I tried to install FreeBSD 4.0 release candidate and while I got a vga console instead of it switching to serial, I got a screen full of sym0: parity complaints during the kernel boot and device probe/identification. I had to reset the machine to get it to stop. I also had FreeBSD 3.3 release and so I made boot/mfsroot floppies and installed this. 3.3 works OK and reports ncr0: for my Tekram controller (the Xserver install even offers me a TGA server although FreeBSD can't install on a TGA card in console mode, which I find rather ironic....) Anyway, I'm reporting that something seems wrong with the symbios/ncr driver for 4.0 -- it works with 3.3 (and the card works with Linux and Tru64 UNIX). Card is a Tekram DC-390F 53C875 symbios based card. Dirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 17 10:23:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215A437B6A5 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id TAA15279; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:19:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01465; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:16:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:16:34 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Chris Csanady Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netbooting.. Message-ID: <20000217191633.B1346@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov>; from cc@137.org on Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 04:26:44PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 04:26:44PM -0600, Chris Csanady wrote: > Ok, I have tried several things, but I have yet to get FreeBSD to boot > over the network. These are test machines, and I need to have more than > one OS on them. > > At first, I was trying bootp'ing the loader, but using a local filesystem > as the root. It looks like the loader was not intended to be used this > way though. > > Right now, I would be happy netbooting the entire system, but I can't get > this to work either. I am using the Feb 8 snapshot, and I continually > get the following: > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM net boot, Revision 0.1 > (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Tue Feb 8 11:30:11 GMT 2000) > Memory: 131072 k > boot: ethernet address: 08:00:2b:86:77:45 > net_open: server addr: 147.155.137.1 > net_open: server path: /raid/diskless/ariel > . > . > Mounting root from nfs:147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel > no such device 'ariel' > setrootbyname failed > panic: nfs_mountroot: socreate(0000): 43 It's been a while ago that I experimented with netboot on alpha. I had similar problems IIRC. If only I remembered the details.. :( This was on a DEC3000/400 booting from a Miata BTW. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl The FreeBSD Project: http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 18 9:12:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bile.skycache.com (bile.skycache.com [207.239.230.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5117537B9BF for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marian@bile.skycache.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by bile.skycache.com (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id e1IHCiD28711 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:12:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:12:44 -0500 (EST) From: Marian Stagarescu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: FD_SET error on 64 bit architecture Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am running FreeBSD 4.0-20000101-CURRENT on a DS-10 Alpha/64 bit and I am getting an error when trying to FD_SET descriptors with particular values. Here is an example: int fd; fd_set fdset; FD_ZERO(&fds); fd=35; FD_SET(fd,&fdset); check: if(FD_ISSET(fd,&fdset)) reports fd unset. I was able to identify the cause of the problem (or at least what I believe to be the cause); the macros or FD_SET, FD_ISSET (appended below from /usr/include/sys/types.h) work with longs on 8 bytes on alpha-64bit architectures. having this will result in a value of 64 for NFDBITS. Trying to do FD_SET(fd,..) with fd=35 will force a shift (1 << fd % NFDBITS) which translates into "shift a 32-bit (the 1 is an int on 32-bit) by 35 bits" which is shifting 1 out and the result is 0, hence fd unset. I choose to redefine the FD_SET, FD_ISSET macros to use a (long) 1 instead of an 1 and this seems to work. This looks to me as a portability problem to 64-bit arch. Is this correct ? Does anybody experienced this ? Are there any known problems with 64-bits arch ? Thanks, Marian Stagarescu Cidera, Inc. #define NBBY 8 /* number of bits in a byte */ /* * Select uses bit masks of file descriptors in longs. These macros * manipulate such bit fields (the filesystem macros use chars). * FD_SETSIZE may be defined by the user, but the default here should * be enough for most uses. */ #ifndef FD_SETSIZE #define FD_SETSIZE 1024 #endif typedef long fd_mask; #define NFDBITS (sizeof(fd_mask) * NBBY) /* bits per mask */ #ifndef howmany #define howmany(x, y) (((x) + ((y) - 1)) / (y)) #endif typedef struct fd_set { fd_mask fds_bits[howmany(FD_SETSIZE, NFDBITS)]; } fd_set; #define FD_SET(n, p) ((p)->fds_bits[(n)/NFDBITS] |= (1 << ((n) % NFDBITS))) #define FD_CLR(n, p) ((p)->fds_bits[(n)/NFDBITS] &= ~(1 << ((n) % NFDBITS))) #define FD_ISSET(n, p) ((p)->fds_bits[(n)/NFDBITS] & (1 << ((n) % NFDBITS))) #define FD_COPY(f, t) bcopy(f, t, sizeof(*(f))) #define FD_ZERO(p) bzero(p, sizeof(*(p))) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Feb 18 11:38:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380C137B8AC for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:38:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01793; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA30136; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:38:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:38:20 -0500 (EST) To: Marian Stagarescu Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FD_SET error on 64 bit architecture In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14509.40771.555663.27774@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marian Stagarescu writes: > This looks to me as a portability problem to 64-bit arch. Is this correct Yes. Thank you for pointing it out; we're exploring the best way to fix it. > ? Does anybody experienced this ? Are there any known problems with > 64-bits arch ? We try to fix issues as soon as they are raised; so in general, the answer is "no" Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 1:53: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A89637BB61 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (fujimori@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id SAA09881 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:52:55 +0900 Message-Id: <200002190952.SAA09881@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: DigitalUnix4.0 and recent SRM on PC164LX Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:52:55 +0000 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Listers, I am testing the installation of Digital Unix 4.0{D,E} on PC164LX in addition to FreeBSD/Alpha 4.0-current. I attached one more old disk. A funny thing is that DU reboots the system in the middle of the installation--after writing 31 subsets or so to the hard disk drive, and then it hangs. Just black console, and no vga output. Is this normal? I want to know if recent SRMs are not compatible with Digital Unix 4.0 any longer. Moreover, the operating system CD cannot be read at all on all of PCs and workstations in my lab. Thanks for your attention. Yoriaki FUJIMORI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 8:45:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D158637BC2F for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:45:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25115; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:45:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA36813; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:44:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:44:43 -0500 (EST) To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DigitalUnix4.0 and recent SRM on PC164LX In-Reply-To: <200002190952.SAA09881@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> References: <200002190952.SAA09881@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14510.51071.221166.198759@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yoriaki FUJIMORI writes: > Moreover, the operating system CD cannot be read at all on all of > PCs and workstations in my lab. > It is UFS format, with a 512k block size. Most CDROM readers cannot handle this. If you want to read it on a pc, dd the image off the CD and mount it via vnconfig. Also, they sometimes leave the image "dirty", so you might need to forcibly mount it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 10:41:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1D437BCDE for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:41:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id SAA00619; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:36:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA58937; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:00:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:00:24 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DigitalUnix4.0 and recent SRM on PC164LX Message-ID: <20000219190024.C58497@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <200002190952.SAA09881@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200002190952.SAA09881@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp>; from fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp on Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 06:52:55PM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 06:52:55PM +0000, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > Dear Listers, > I am testing the installation of Digital Unix 4.0{D,E} > on PC164LX in addition to FreeBSD/Alpha 4.0-current. > I attached one more old disk. > > A funny thing is that DU reboots the system in the middle of the > installation--after writing 31 subsets or so to the hard disk drive, > and then it hangs. Just black console, and no vga output. > Is this normal? I want to know if recent SRMs are not compatible Hardly.. > with Digital Unix 4.0 any longer. No, it is more the other way around: later versions T64 sometimes require updated SRM versions. > Moreover, the operating system CD cannot be read at all on all of > PCs and workstations in my lab. It is UFS, not ISO9660. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands http://www.tcja.nl The FreeBSD Project: http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 10:41:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9840537BC3C for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:41:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id SAA00625; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:36:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA58840; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:55:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:55:38 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Yoriaki FUJIMORI , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DigitalUnix4.0 and recent SRM on PC164LX Message-ID: <20000219185538.A58497@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <200002190952.SAA09881@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> <14510.51071.221166.198759@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <14510.51071.221166.198759@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 11:44:43AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 11:44:43AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Yoriaki FUJIMORI writes: > > > Moreover, the operating system CD cannot be read at all on all of > > PCs and workstations in my lab. > It is UFS format, with a 512k block size. Most CDROM readers cannot bytes -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands http://www.tcja.nl The FreeBSD Project: http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 11:45:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from set.spradley.org (set.spradley.tmi.net [207.170.107.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A6237BBA0 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:45:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.org) Received: from set.spradley.org (localhost.spradley.tmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by set.spradley.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA88750; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:40:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tsprad@set.spradley.org) Message-Id: <200002191940.NAA88750@set.spradley.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DigitalUnix4.0 and recent SRM on PC164LX In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:52:55 GMT." <200002190952.SAA09881@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:40:44 -0600 From: Ted Spradley Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > A funny thing is that DU reboots the system in the middle of the > installation--after writing 31 subsets or so to the hard disk drive, > and then it hangs. Just black console, and no vga output. > Is this normal? I want to know if recent SRMs are not compatible > with Digital Unix 4.0 any longer. > Moreover, the operating system CD cannot be read at all on all of > PCs and workstations in my lab. How much memory does the box have? More than 256 Mbytes? I had similar symptoms with a couple of boxes with 512M. This saved me: http://www.aspsys.com/docs/UNIXWorkaround.txt Basically, "boot -flag I" and when it asks for kernel options type "vmunix memlimit=256". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 18:37: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA27437BCF8 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:36:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA81851; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:36:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:36:45 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Chris Csanady Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netbooting.. Message-ID: <20000219193644.A81810@panzer.kdm.org> References: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov>; from cc@137.org on Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 04:26:44PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 16:26:44 -0600, Chris Csanady wrote: > Ok, I have tried several things, but I have yet to get FreeBSD to boot > over the network. These are test machines, and I need to have more than > one OS on them. > > At first, I was trying bootp'ing the loader, but using a local filesystem > as the root. It looks like the loader was not intended to be used this > way though. > > Right now, I would be happy netbooting the entire system, but I can't get > this to work either. I am using the Feb 8 snapshot, and I continually > get the following: > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM net boot, Revision 0.1 > (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Tue Feb 8 11:30:11 GMT 2000) > Memory: 131072 k > boot: ethernet address: 08:00:2b:86:77:45 > net_open: server addr: 147.155.137.1 > net_open: server path: /raid/diskless/ariel > . > . > Mounting root from nfs:147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel > no such device 'ariel' > setrootbyname failed > panic: nfs_mountroot: socreate(0000): 43 > > My bootptab entry looks like > > .default.freebsd:\ > :sa=147.155.137.1:hd=/scl/boot:bf=netboot:\ > :rp="147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel":\ > :sm=255.255.254.0:\ > :gw=147.155.136.252:\ > :hn:ht=ether:vm=rfc1048:\ > :ds=147.155.137.2,147.155.137.3: > ariel:ip=147.155.137.91:ha=08002B867745:tc=.default.freebsd: > > and the fstab has > > 147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel / nfs rw 0 0 > > Am I misssing something? The nfs server is actually an Irix box > if it matters. The bootp/tftp server is different.. FWIW, I'm having similar problems with a DEC3000/300 box I'm trying to netboot. (It took me a while to figure out that I had to boot "ez0" instead of "esa0" to get bootp instead of MOP.) My bootptab looks like this: modena.plutotech.com: \ :ht=ethernet:ha=08002bbb4eb3: \ :ip=206.168.67.197:sm=255.255.255.128: \ :sa=206.168.67.172:bf=netboot:rp=/b/modena: \ :vm=rfc10248 I get through the first part of the kernel boot, and then I get this (copied by hand, I'm not using a serial console): Mounting root from nfs:subway:/b/modena no such device 'modena' setroobyname failed panic: nfs_mountroot: socreate(0000): 43 The stack trace is: Debugger() panic() nfs_mountroot() nfs_mount() vfs_mountroot_try() vfs_mountroot() mi_startup() locorestart() I may try to track this down tomorrow. It seems like it should be solveable. BTW, I'm running with -current as of ~February 12th, I think, and I'm netbooting (bootp, tftp and NFS) off a FreeBSD/alpha box. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 21:21: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5548A37BDEE for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:20:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cc@137.org) Received: from ameslab.gov (friley-160-235.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.235]) by friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1943D78; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:20:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38AF79AE.15C1FE6E@ameslab.gov> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:20:46 -0600 From: Chris Csanady X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, ja, ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooting.. References: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov> <20000219193644.A81810@panzer.kdm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 16:26:44 -0600, Chris Csanady wrote: > > Ok, I have tried several things, but I have yet to get FreeBSD to boot > > over the network. These are test machines, and I need to have more than > > one OS on them. > > > > At first, I was trying bootp'ing the loader, but using a local filesystem > > as the root. It looks like the loader was not intended to be used this > > way though. > > > > Right now, I would be happy netbooting the entire system, but I can't get > > this to work either. I am using the Feb 8 snapshot, and I continually > > get the following: > > > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM net boot, Revision 0.1 > > (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Tue Feb 8 11:30:11 GMT 2000) > > Memory: 131072 k > > boot: ethernet address: 08:00:2b:86:77:45 > > net_open: server addr: 147.155.137.1 > > net_open: server path: /raid/diskless/ariel > > . > > . > > Mounting root from nfs:147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel > > no such device 'ariel' > > setrootbyname failed > > panic: nfs_mountroot: socreate(0000): 43 > > > > My bootptab entry looks like > > > > .default.freebsd:\ > > :sa=147.155.137.1:hd=/scl/boot:bf=netboot:\ > > :rp="147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel":\ > > :sm=255.255.254.0:\ > > :gw=147.155.136.252:\ > > :hn:ht=ether:vm=rfc1048:\ > > :ds=147.155.137.2,147.155.137.3: > > ariel:ip=147.155.137.91:ha=08002B867745:tc=.default.freebsd: > > > > and the fstab has > > > > 147.155.137.1:/raid/diskless/ariel / nfs rw 0 0 > > > > Am I misssing something? The nfs server is actually an Irix box > > if it matters. The bootp/tftp server is different.. > > FWIW, I'm having similar problems with a DEC3000/300 box I'm trying to > netboot. (It took me a while to figure out that I had to boot "ez0" > instead of "esa0" to get bootp instead of MOP.) > > My bootptab looks like this: > > modena.plutotech.com: \ > :ht=ethernet:ha=08002bbb4eb3: \ > :ip=206.168.67.197:sm=255.255.255.128: \ > :sa=206.168.67.172:bf=netboot:rp=/b/modena: \ > :vm=rfc10248 > > I get through the first part of the kernel boot, and then I get this > (copied by hand, I'm not using a serial console): > > Mounting root from nfs:subway:/b/modena > no such device 'modena' > setroobyname failed > panic: nfs_mountroot: socreate(0000): 43 > > The stack trace is: > > Debugger() > panic() > nfs_mountroot() > nfs_mount() > vfs_mountroot_try() > vfs_mountroot() > mi_startup() > locorestart() > > I may try to track this down tomorrow. It seems like it should be > solveable. BTW, I'm running with -current as of ~February 12th, I think, > and I'm netbooting (bootp, tftp and NFS) off a FreeBSD/alpha box. Do you have the bootp options in your kernel? Drew pointed out that I need these as well as the NFS_ROOT option in my kernel. options BOOTP # Use BOOTP to obtain IP address/hostname options BOOTP_NFSROOT # NFS mount root filesystem using BOOTP info options BOOTP_NFSV3 # Use NFS v3 to NFS mount root options BOOTP_COMPAT # Workaround for broken bootp daemons. options BOOTP_WIRED_TO=dc0 # Use interface fxp0 for BOOTP Also, it turned out that dc0 does not autodetect the media correctly on my boxes. If you have xp1000's, you will probably need the included patches. My bootptab finally ended up looking like: .default.freebsd:\ :sa=147.155.137.1:hd=/scl/boot:bf=netboot:\ :rp="147.155.137.1:/d/fbsd40.alpha/":\ :sm=255.255.254.0:\ :gw=147.155.136.252:\ :hn:ht=ether:vm=rfc1048: puck:ip=147.155.137.90:ha=0000F871D472:tc=.default.freebsd: ariel:ip=147.155.137.91:ha=08002B867745:tc=.default.freebsd: Aside from the Irix 6.5.4 nfs server, things work fine. I can panic it consistently with a make world though, even if /usr/obj is local.. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 21:31: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458B937BDA1 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:31:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA83049; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:30:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:30:54 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Chris Csanady Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooting.. Message-ID: <20000219223054.B82975@panzer.kdm.org> References: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov> <20000219193644.A81810@panzer.kdm.org> <38AF79AE.15C1FE6E@ameslab.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38AF79AE.15C1FE6E@ameslab.gov>; from cc@137.org on Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 11:20:46PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 23:20:46 -0600, Chris Csanady wrote: > "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > > FWIW, I'm having similar problems with a DEC3000/300 box I'm trying to > > netboot. (It took me a while to figure out that I had to boot "ez0" > > instead of "esa0" to get bootp instead of MOP.) [ ... ] > > I may try to track this down tomorrow. It seems like it should be > > solveable. BTW, I'm running with -current as of ~February 12th, I think, > > and I'm netbooting (bootp, tftp and NFS) off a FreeBSD/alpha box. > > Do you have the bootp options in your kernel? Drew pointed out that > I need these as well as the NFS_ROOT option in my kernel. > > options BOOTP # Use BOOTP to obtain IP address/hostname > options BOOTP_NFSROOT # NFS mount root filesystem using BOOTP info > options BOOTP_NFSV3 # Use NFS v3 to NFS mount root > options BOOTP_COMPAT # Workaround for broken bootp daemons. > options BOOTP_WIRED_TO=dc0 # Use interface fxp0 for BOOTP Oops, no, I don't have those. It makes sense that I would need them, though. :) > Also, it turned out that dc0 does not autodetect the media correctly on my > boxes. If you have xp1000's, you will probably need the included patches. Nah, this is a fairly old box with a 10BaseT-only Lance ethernet interface. I haven't had any trouble with the dc0 driver detecting the media on a 433au box. Although I do have the media type hard-coded in SRM, I think. What patches are you talking about? > Aside from the Irix 6.5.4 nfs server, things work fine. I can panic it > consistently with a make world though, even if /usr/obj is local.. Cool, thanks. I'll give those options a whirl tomorrow. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 21:49:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4368D37BDF5 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:49:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cc@137.org) Received: from ameslab.gov (friley-160-235.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.235]) by friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2257D78; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:49:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38AF805C.68A6F23A@ameslab.gov> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:49:16 -0600 From: Chris Csanady X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, ja, ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: Chris Csanady , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooting.. References: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov> <20000219193644.A81810@panzer.kdm.org> <38AF79AE.15C1FE6E@ameslab.gov> <20000219223054.B82975@panzer.kdm.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------41C3B9ACA6B0EC5AEAB48A0E" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------41C3B9ACA6B0EC5AEAB48A0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 23:20:46 -0600, Chris Csanady wrote: > > "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > > > FWIW, I'm having similar problems with a DEC3000/300 box I'm trying to > > > netboot. (It took me a while to figure out that I had to boot "ez0" > > > instead of "esa0" to get bootp instead of MOP.) > > [ ... ] > > > > I may try to track this down tomorrow. It seems like it should be > > > solveable. BTW, I'm running with -current as of ~February 12th, I think, > > > and I'm netbooting (bootp, tftp and NFS) off a FreeBSD/alpha box. > > > > Do you have the bootp options in your kernel? Drew pointed out that > > I need these as well as the NFS_ROOT option in my kernel. > > > > options BOOTP # Use BOOTP to obtain IP address/hostname > > options BOOTP_NFSROOT # NFS mount root filesystem using BOOTP info > > options BOOTP_NFSV3 # Use NFS v3 to NFS mount root > > options BOOTP_COMPAT # Workaround for broken bootp daemons. > > options BOOTP_WIRED_TO=dc0 # Use interface fxp0 for BOOTP > > Oops, no, I don't have those. It makes sense that I would need them, > though. :) > > > Also, it turned out that dc0 does not autodetect the media correctly on my > > boxes. If you have xp1000's, you will probably need the included patches. > > Nah, this is a fairly old box with a 10BaseT-only Lance ethernet interface. > > I haven't had any trouble with the dc0 driver detecting the media on a > 433au box. Although I do have the media type hard-coded in SRM, I think. > > What patches are you talking about? Hmm.. Perhaps I forgot to attach them. :) This happens sometimes. The patches basically make the dc driver listen to the SRM settings. Here they are in any case.. Chris --------------41C3B9ACA6B0EC5AEAB48A0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; name="dc.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dc.diff" Index: if_dc.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.7 if_dc.c --- if_dc.c 2000/01/24 17:19:37 1.7 +++ if_dc.c 2000/02/07 17:04:48 @@ -1721,6 +1721,33 @@ bpfattach(ifp, DLT_EN10MB, sizeof(struct ether_header)); +#ifdef __alpha__ + sc->dc_srm_media = 0; + + /* Remember the SRM console media setting */ + if (DC_IS_INTEL(sc)) { + command = pci_read_config(dev, DC_PCI_CFDD, 4); + command &= ~(DC_CFDD_SNOOZE_MODE|DC_CFDD_SLEEP_MODE); + switch ((command >> 8) & 0xff) { + case 3: + sc->dc_srm_media = IFM_10_T; + break; + case 4: + sc->dc_srm_media = IFM_10_T | IFM_FDX; + break; + case 5: + sc->dc_srm_media = IFM_100_TX; + break; + case 6: + sc->dc_srm_media = IFM_100_TX | IFM_FDX; + break; + } + if (sc->dc_srm_media) + sc->dc_srm_media |= IFM_ACTIVE | IFM_ETHER; + } +#endif + + fail: splx(s); @@ -2669,6 +2696,15 @@ sc->dc_stat_ch = timeout(dc_tick, sc, hz); +#ifdef __alpha__ + if(sc->dc_srm_media) { + struct ifreq ifr; + + ifr.ifr_media = sc->dc_srm_media; + ifmedia_ioctl(ifp, &ifr, &mii->mii_media, SIOCSIFMEDIA); + sc->dc_srm_media = 0; + } +#endif return; } @@ -2772,6 +2808,10 @@ case SIOCSIFMEDIA: mii = device_get_softc(sc->dc_miibus); error = ifmedia_ioctl(ifp, ifr, &mii->mii_media, command); +#ifdef __alpha__ + if (sc->dc_srm_media) + sc->dc_srm_media = 0; +#endif break; default: error = EINVAL; Index: if_dcreg.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/pci/if_dcreg.h,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 if_dcreg.h --- if_dcreg.h 2000/01/19 19:03:08 1.3 +++ if_dcreg.h 2000/02/07 17:04:49 @@ -655,6 +655,9 @@ struct dc_list_data *dc_ldata; struct dc_chain_data dc_cdata; struct callout_handle dc_stat_ch; +#ifdef __alpha__ + int dc_srm_media; +#endif }; #define DC_TX_POLL 0x00000001 --------------41C3B9ACA6B0EC5AEAB48A0E-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Feb 19 21:57:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFE537BE21 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA83232; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:57:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:57:12 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Chris Csanady Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooting.. Message-ID: <20000219225712.A83184@panzer.kdm.org> References: <38AB2424.C4C9D80D@ameslab.gov> <20000219193644.A81810@panzer.kdm.org> <38AF79AE.15C1FE6E@ameslab.gov> <20000219223054.B82975@panzer.kdm.org> <38AF805C.68A6F23A@ameslab.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38AF805C.68A6F23A@ameslab.gov>; from cc@137.org on Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 11:49:16PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 23:49:16 -0600, Chris Csanady wrote: > "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 23:20:46 -0600, Chris Csanady wrote: > > > Also, it turned out that dc0 does not autodetect the media correctly on my > > > boxes. If you have xp1000's, you will probably need the included patches. > > > > Nah, this is a fairly old box with a 10BaseT-only Lance ethernet interface. > > > > I haven't had any trouble with the dc0 driver detecting the media on a > > 433au box. Although I do have the media type hard-coded in SRM, I think. > > > > What patches are you talking about? > > Hmm.. Perhaps I forgot to attach them. :) This happens sometimes. The > patches basically make the dc driver listen to the SRM settings. Here they > are in any case.. Ahh. It must just be a problem with the 21143 on the XP1000 boxes, then, since autodetection works fine on the 433au I've got. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message