From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 19 1: 0:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C056737B612 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:59:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA86903 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 08:59:49 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:23:50 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Appending mailing list links to documents Message-ID: <20000318132350.A9834@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000313205349.A48293@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <86vh2p438s.wl@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <86vh2p438s.wl@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:05:07AM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:05:07AM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > From: Nik Clayton > > 2. The best way to handle i18n in the patch. > > To handle this cleanly, we should have l10n-{en,es,fr,ja,ru,zh}.ent > files like as Norm's dsssl-docbook-modular distribution. Possibly. The problem with that is that (a) Norm doesn't address the issue of different character sets, which we do. (b) As far as I can see, DSSSL doesn't support 'positional parameters' (see printf(3), and the '$' format string), making it tricky to do l10n where you're replacing more than one item, and where the order of items in the string might change depending on the language. Really, you need a way to address this that's more comprehensive than simple translating a word from one language to another. Then I had a brain wave. Check out the attached patches. Basically, the idea is that now, instead of having one freebsd.dsl file that contains all the language specific code as well as the language independent definitions, we keep language independent stuff only in doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl. All the language dependent stuff goes in to doc//share/sgml/freebsd.dsl. So we'll have one of these per language (and encoding). This, second, freebsd.dsl includes the doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl file, in the same way that doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl includes Norm Walsh's stylesheets. However, it overrides, or adds to the definition in that file. So our stylesheet definitions are spread out in to three places, instead of the two they're currently located: $PREFIX/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular The original stylesheets. doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl Customisations that apply to the FDP as a whole. These are used to enforce a consistent style on the output. doc//share/sgml/freebsd.dsl Customisations that apply to a specific language. These include any changes to, for example, specify the language and encoding of the output HTML file. When building the docs, the Makefile (actually, doc.docbook.mk) has to refer to doc//share/sgml/freebsd.dsl, instead of the current doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl. This means that the various Makefile.inc files no longer need to include a "JADEFLAGS+= -ilang.", as those settings can be set in the language specific freebsd.dsl, instead of being options in the master freebsd.dsl file. There are two files attached to this message. The first is a patch to apply to the top of the doc/ tree, which fixes up the existing Makefile's and the share/sgml/freebsd.dsl file. It also sorts out share/mk/doc.docbook.mk, because the DSL* variable values have changed. [ doc.docbook.mk also has another small patch -- Palm Pilots don't like having multiple files installed with the same name. So this just symlinks "book.pdb" to ${.CURDIR:T}.pdb -- eg., in the handbook, you get a "book.pdb" file, and a link to it called "handbook.pdb". This makes it a bit easier to install these on the Palm Pilot. ] The second is a tar file to extract at the top of the doc/ tree, which contains the new /share/sgml/freebsd.dsl files Give it a go, let me know what you think. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc.diff" Index: ja_JP.eucJP/articles/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/articles/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile.inc --- Makefile.inc 2000/01/06 07:22:40 1.1.1.1 +++ Makefile.inc 2000/03/18 12:59:34 @@ -3,7 +3,6 @@ # # Original revision: 1.3 -JADEFLAGS= -ilang.ja TIDYFLAGS= -raw DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/ja/articles/${.CURDIR:T} Index: ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile.inc --- Makefile.inc 1999/09/06 06:53:19 1.4 +++ Makefile.inc 2000/03/18 12:59:57 @@ -2,7 +2,6 @@ # $FreeBSD: doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc,v 1.4 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Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 19 2:34:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3FB37B6D3 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:34:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA51015 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:34:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 02:34:08 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0 Errata change Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can someone please review this? It's what you call "SGML by context" :-) Index: errata.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/releases/4.0R/errata.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 errata.sgml --- errata.sgml 2000/03/17 12:02:31 1.2 +++ errata.sgml 2000/03/19 10:30:23 @@ -28,17 +28,42 @@ freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org -For all CERT security advisories, see: +For all FreeBSD security advisories, see: - ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/ + http://www.FreeBSD.org/security/ -For the latest security incident information. +for the latest security incident information. ---- Security Advisories: Current active security advisories: None ---- System Update Information: + +The tcpdump binary in the bin distribution is erroneously linked +against the libcrypto.so library, which is only found in the separate +crypto distribution. + +Therefore, if you only install the bin distribution without the crypto +distribution, tcpdump will not work as installed. + +Fix: To fix, download a new tcpdump binary from the following location: + +http://www.freebsd.org/~kris/4.0R/i386/tcpdump (i386) +http://www.freebsd.org/~kris/4.0R/alpha/tcpdump (alpha) + +The MD5 checksum of this file is: + +i386 version: MD5 (tcpdump) = 0b3d32b367e7312d546ccae8f1824391 +alpha version: MD5 (tcpdump) = 2d113fa4c38c8a0299d558acb5c6ad57 + +To verify the checksum of your downloaded copy, perform the following +command: + +/sbin/md5 /path/to/downloaded/tcpdump + +and compare with the above. +

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 19 11:38:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (adsl-63-192-209-55.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.209.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D564037B6C6; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:38:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 695B420F; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:37:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:37:45 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Kris Kennaway Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 Errata change Message-ID: <20000319113745.A5293@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 02:34:08AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 at 02:34:08 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Can someone please review this? It's what you call "SGML by context" :-) Here's a cleaned up patch. This one keeps with the current 'style' of the document (the tabbed URLs and capitalized FreeBSD.org and whatnot. If you want me to commit it, let me know, otherwise feel free to do so yourself. - jim Index: errata.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /mnt/ncvs/www/en/releases/4.0R/errata.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 errata.sgml --- errata.sgml 2000/03/17 12:02:31 1.2 +++ errata.sgml 2000/03/19 19:32:14 @@ -28,17 +28,42 @@ freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org -For all CERT security advisories, see: +For all FreeBSD security advisories, see: - ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/ + http://www.FreeBSD.org/security/ -For the latest security incident information. +for the latest security incident information. ---- Security Advisories: Current active security advisories: None ---- System Update Information: + +The tcpdump binary in the bin distribution is erroneously linked against +the libcrypto.so library, which is only found in the separate crypto +distribution. + +Therefore, if you only install the bin distribution without the crypto +distribution, tcpdump will not work as installed. + +Fix: Download a new tcpdump binary from the following location: + + http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kris/4.0R/i386/tcpdump (i386) + http://people.FreeBSD.org/~kris/4.0R/alpha/tcpdump (alpha) + +The MD5 checksum of this file is: + + i386 version: MD5 (tcpdump) = 0b3d32b367e7312d546ccae8f1824391 + alpha version: MD5 (tcpdump) = 2d113fa4c38c8a0299d558acb5c6ad57 + +To verify the checksum of your downloaded copy, perform the following +command: + + /sbin/md5 /path/to/downloaded/tcpdump + +and compare with the above. +

Release Home &footer; -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 19 16:30:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9A137B7AB for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:30:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA61646; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:29:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:29:52 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't Build docproj on 4.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20000319095927.A4891@scorpion.crimea.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > hi, > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 02:19:36PM -0800, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > Probably you already know this. This is a 4.0-RELEASE built from > > source upgrading a recent 3.4-STABLE. > > > > (The handbook in various formats available by ftp seems to be > > from August 15, 1999 as I recall; too old to be a reasonable > > alternative. Or are these regularly updated even though the > > directory date doesn't change?) > > Please re-cvsup and try again. I did--same error. AA > -- > /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ > /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ > /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 19 17:46:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from serio.al.rim.or.jp (serio.al.rim.or.jp [202.247.191.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBC437B846; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:46:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.rim.or.jp by serio.al.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/HMX-12) id KAA15760; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:46:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (pppa73.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.163.73]) by mail1.rim.or.jp (3.7W) id KAA13410; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:46:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA55731; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:46:08 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:46:07 +0900 Message-ID: <86aeju4dnk.wl@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Appending mailing list links to documents In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:23:50 +0000" <20000318132350.A9834@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000313205349.A48293@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <86vh2p438s.wl@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <20000318132350.A9834@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.2.16 (No Son Of Mine) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 8) (Bryce Canyon) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Nik Clayton > Give it a go, let me know what you think. OK, I'll test that later. But it seems your plan is good for me. -- Jun Kuriyama / FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 19 17:46:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from serio.al.rim.or.jp (serio.al.rim.or.jp [202.247.191.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CBD37B7AB; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:46:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.rim.or.jp by serio.al.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/HMX-12) id KAA15768; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:46:14 +0900 (JST) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (pppa73.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.163.73]) by mail1.rim.or.jp (3.7W) id KAA13419; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:46:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA55735; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:46:11 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:46:11 +0900 Message-ID: <868zze4dng.wl@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: phantom@FreeBSD.org Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: doc/ tree tagging In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:00:27 +0300" <20000318120027.A9870@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <20000318120027.A9870@scorpion.crimea.ua> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.2.16 (No Son Of Mine) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 8) (Bryce Canyon) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Alexey Zelkin > I remember about attempt of resolving of this problem by creation > of new sgml entities, but it looks little junkly for me. We'll just > create more problems with tracking of documentation for all branches > in that way, IMHO. And add more junk to SGML sources :( But we don't have -doc folks to maintain two branches on doc tree. Merging effort is too costly for us. Doc tree commitments come from doc committers, src committers, PR submitters and so on. Who should maintain changes to HEAD by them? -- Jun Kuriyama / FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 19 22:57:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail2.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DD1E37BE57 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:55:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 25292 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2000 06:55:46 -0000 Received: from du39.cli.ptd.net (HELO beowulf.cobre.com) (204.186.33.39) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2000 06:55:46 -0000 Message-ID: <38D5CB42.41C67EA6@mail.ptd.net> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:54:58 -0500 From: Thomas Michael Sommers Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: How do I submit documentation? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wrote a FAQ about assembly language programming in FreeBSD that I want to submit. The FreeBSD web site says to ftp submissions to ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming, but this directory does not seem to exist. Where should I send it? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 0:50:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DEF37B8F5 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA31666; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tasogare.imasy.or.jp (tasogare.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DA037C311 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:47:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistral@imasy.or.jp) Received: from mistral.wind.prv (isdn0.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.192]) by tasogare.imasy.or.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-tasogare/smtpfeed 1.01) with ESMTP id RAA06502 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:47:06 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from mistral@imasy.or.jp) Received: (from yohta@localhost) by mistral.wind.prv (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2-990626) id RAA03082; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:47:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200003200847.RAA06502@tasogare.imasy.or.jp> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:47:05 +0900 (JST) From: mistral@imasy.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17501: typo in ntpq.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17501 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in ntpq.8 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 20 00:50:07 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yoshihiko SARUMARU >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Personal >Environment: From 4.0-CURRENT ( at the timing of ntp 4.0 was imported) to HEAD >Description: There is a typo (in 2 position) in ntpq.8 assocation -> association >How-To-Repeat: man ntpq >Fix: I propose a patch below: --- ntpq.8.orig Tue Feb 15 22:52:45 2000 +++ ntpq.8 Mon Mar 20 12:41:04 2000 @@ -331,7 +331,7 @@ will show the variables of a particular clock. Omitting the variable list will cause the server to return a default variable display. -.It Ic lassocations +.It Ic lassociations Obtains and prints a list of association identifiers and peer statuses for all associations for which the server is maintaining state. This command differs from the @@ -442,7 +442,7 @@ .Pq selected The peer is a survivor, but not among the first six peers sorted by synchronization distance. -If the assocation is ephemeral, +If the association is ephemeral, it may be demobilized to conserve resources. .It * .Pq sys.peer >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 0:50:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E8D37B8F5 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA31657; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tasogare.imasy.or.jp (tasogare.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0085D37B82B for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:43:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistral@imasy.or.jp) Received: from mistral.wind.prv (isdn0.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.192]) by tasogare.imasy.or.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-tasogare/smtpfeed 1.01) with ESMTP id RAA06012 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:43:17 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from mistral@imasy.or.jp) Received: (from yohta@localhost) by mistral.wind.prv (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2-990626) id MAA02116; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:38:25 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200003200843.RAA06012@tasogare.imasy.or.jp> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:38:25 +0900 (JST) From: mistral@imasy.org Reply-To: mistral@imasy.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17500: HTML -> ROFF convert problem in ntpdc.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17500 >Category: docs >Synopsis: HTML -> ROFF convert problem in ntpdc.8 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 20 00:50:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yoshihiko SARUMARU >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Personal >Environment: From 4.0-current (at the timing of NTP 4.0 was imported) to to HEAD >Description: I here the man pages of NTP was converted from HTML documents. When I read down the man page of ntpdc(8), I found the same block with "pll", and the same and near position, sectioning is something wrong because of .It macro is misplaced by .Ic macro. There is one more problem that is not so critical. "reset" subtitle was not .Ic decorated and looks not so emphasized. >How-To-Repeat: man ntpdc >Fix: I propose a patch below --- ntpdc.8.orig Tue Feb 15 22:52:17 2000 +++ ntpdc.8 Mon Mar 20 12:26:18 2000 @@ -559,33 +559,12 @@ .Qq mutlicastclient configuration option with default address. The default for this flag is disable. -.It pll -Enables -the server to adjust its local clock by means of NTP. -If disabled, -the local clock free-runs at its intrinsic time and frequency -offset. -This flag is useful in case the local clock is controlled by -some other device or protocol and -NTP is used only to provide -synchronization to other clients. -In this case, the local clock driver is used. -See the -.Qo -Reference Clock Drivers -.Qc -page -(available as part of the HTML documentation -provided in -.Pa /usr/share/doc/ntp ) -for further information. -The default for this flag is enable. .It monitor Enables the monitoring facility for the .Ic monlist command. The default for this flag is enable. -.Ic pll +.It pll Enables the server to adjust its local clock by means of NTP. If disabled, the local clock free-runs at its intrinsic time and frequency offset. @@ -600,7 +579,7 @@ .Qc page for further information. The default for this flag is enable. -.Ic pps +.It pps Enables the pulse-per-second (PPS) signal when frequency and time is disciplined by the precision time kernel modifications. @@ -611,7 +590,7 @@ page for further information. The default for this flag is disable. -.Ic stats +.It stats Enables the statistics facility. See the .Qq Monitoring Support @@ -620,11 +599,11 @@ page for further information. The default for this flag is enable. -.Ic pll_kernel +.It pll_kernel When the precision time kernel modifications are installed, this indicates the kernel controls the clock discipline; otherwise, the daemon controls the clock discipline. -.Ic pps_kernel +.It pps_kernel When the precision time kernel modifications are installed and a pulse-per-second (PPS) signal is available, this indicates the PPS signal controls the clock discipline; @@ -697,7 +676,7 @@ .Xc Clear a trap for asynchronous messages. See the source listing for further information. -.It reset Ar counter Op Ar ... +.It Ic reset Ar counter Op Ar ... Clear the statistics counters in various modules of the server. See the source listing for further information. .El >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 1:25:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425D737B53C for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:25:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from localhost (narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA36932; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:24:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:24:39 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: Thomas Michael Sommers Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I submit documentation? In-Reply-To: <38D5CB42.41C67EA6@mail.ptd.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Thomas Michael Sommers wrote: > I wrote a FAQ about assembly language programming in FreeBSD that I want > to submit. The FreeBSD web site says to ftp submissions to > ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming, but this directory does not seem > to exist. Where should I send it? Thanks. > The trick has been for a long time now to send-pr it. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 3:42:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8798A37B56F; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:42:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA50225; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:42:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:42:39 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200003201142.DAA50225@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17500: HTML -> ROFF convert problem in ntpdc.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: HTML -> ROFF convert problem in ntpdc.8 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 20 03:42:20 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I did these manpages, so I'll take a look. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 3:55:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA7037B6C9 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:55:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12X0mD-000124-00; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:55:17 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Thomas Michael Sommers Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I submit documentation? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:54:58 EST." <38D5CB42.41C67EA6@mail.ptd.net> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:55:16 +0200 Message-ID: <3970.953553316@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:54:58 EST, Thomas Michael Sommers wrote: > I wrote a FAQ about assembly language programming in FreeBSD that I want > to submit. The FreeBSD web site says to ftp submissions to > ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming, but this directory does not seem > to exist. Where should I send it? Thanks. Could you point as at the exact place where the documentation says to send submissions using FTP? If we can fix that, we'll save other people from the same confusion. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 4: 3:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D754A37B585; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA53340; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:03:35 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200003201203.EAA53340@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17501: typo in ntpq.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in ntpq.8 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 20 03:59:19 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. Since this is a problem in the distribution docs (HTML), you should report it to David L. Mills so that he can fix it in the distribution. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 4:17:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail2.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6264F37B8DD for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:17:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 28422 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2000 12:17:42 -0000 Received: from du17.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) (204.186.33.17) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2000 12:17:42 -0000 Message-ID: <38D616B5.5DCB0287@mail.ptd.net> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:16:53 -0500 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I submit documentation? References: <3970.953553316@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:54:58 EST, Thomas Michael Sommers wrote: > > > I wrote a FAQ about assembly language programming in FreeBSD that I want > > to submit. The FreeBSD web site says to ftp submissions to > > ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming, but this directory does not seem > > to exist. Where should I send it? Thanks. > > Could you point as at the exact place where the documentation says to > send submissions using FTP? If we can fix that, we'll save other people > from the same confusion. > > Thanks, > Sheldon. It's on this page, in two places: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 4:22:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A116537B6F9 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:22:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12X1Cl-00040v-00; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:22:43 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I submit documentation? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:16:53 EST." <38D616B5.5DCB0287@mail.ptd.net> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:22:43 +0200 Message-ID: <15432.953554963@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:16:53 EST, "Thomas M. Sommers" wrote: > It's on this page, in two places: > > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html Thanks! I'll take a look. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 5:26: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103F837B918; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:26:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA62773; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:26:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:26:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200003201326.FAA62773@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17468: Missing man page: ld.so Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing man page: ld.so Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 20 05:25:30 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Looks like this is a simple mistake in which someone accidentally reintroduced the erroneous cross-reference. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 7:10: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A6637B7FD for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA47936; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DB637B7D4 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:07:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA47668; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:07:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200003201507.HAA47668@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:07:37 -0800 (PST) From: mike@sentex.ca To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/17506: reference to man page that does not exist Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17506 >Category: docs >Synopsis: reference to man page that does not exist >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 20 07:10:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Tancsa >Release: 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sun Mar 19 >Organization: Sentex Communications >Environment: 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sun Mar 19 >Description: man page for ipsec makes reference to racoon (8) which does not exist >How-To-Repeat: man ipsec >Fix: removal of the reference, or addition of the man page >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 7:22:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5BA37BB4B; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:22:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA49772; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:22:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:22:07 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200003201522.HAA49772@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, shin@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17506: reference to man page that does not exist Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: reference to man page that does not exist Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->shin Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 20 07:18:45 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Inoue-san, what's racoon(8)? :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 7:54:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8055137B827 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06951; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:56:04 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:56:04 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Annelise Anderson Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't Build docproj on 4.0-RELEASE Message-ID: <20000320145604.C4023@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Annelise Anderson on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 02:19:36PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 02:19:36PM -0800, Annelise Anderson wrote: > Probably you already know this. This is a 4.0-RELEASE built from > source upgrading a recent 3.4-STABLE. Known bug with the w3m build. Removing patch-aa from boehm-gc and rebuilding that seems to be the current consensus on the best way to fix it -- see -current mailing list for more details. I don't run -current, otherwise I'd have got a handle on this much earlier. I'm in the process of setting up a couple of scratch disks to do so, so more info later. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 7:54:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104A137B8B8; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:54:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05979; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:48:11 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:48:10 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: doc/ tree tagging Message-ID: <20000320144810.A4023@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000318120027.A9870@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000318120027.A9870@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from Alexey Zelkin on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 12:00:27PM +0300 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 12:00:27PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > I took a look to the FAQ and found that a lot of points should be > fixed for 4.0-RELEASE, but should be left for 3.x branch. For example > latest changes related in 4.x/5.x config(8) are not relected and FAQ > give incorrect examples at all. Since 3.x branch will be supported > until 3.6 release (at least) we need to fix documentation for 4.x > and leave it as well for 3.x. IMHO much better way is just create > cvs branch for 3.x docs and continue support of this branch, but > all new changes should go to HEAD branch. No. We don't have the resources to manage multiple branches, and, unlike code, there are definitely situations where the reader will want to see information about more than one version of FreeBSD at a time. For example, imagine a hardware compatability list that was branched. There was a time when -current lacked support for devices in -stable, and there's no reason why that might not happen again. There's more, see the list archives for more detail. > I remember about attempt of resolving of this problem by creation > of new sgml entities, but it looks little junkly for me. It's still a prototype. It needs people other than me to actually try it out and provide feedback. I've posted sample code and patches to this list at least once (and quite probably more) and had very little feedback. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 7:55:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46B837B8FB; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:55:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06690; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:54:01 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:54:01 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Andrey Zakhvatov Cc: Alexey Zelkin , nik@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc/ tree tagging Message-ID: <20000320145401.B4023@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000318120027.A9870@scorpion.crimea.ua> <200003181025.PAA40420@mail.cgu.chel.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200003181025.PAA40420@mail.cgu.chel.su>; from Andrey Zakhvatov on Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 03:25:40PM +0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 03:25:40PM +0500, Andrey Zakhvatov wrote: > > IMHO much better way is just create > > cvs branch for 3.x docs and continue support of this branch, but > > all new changes should go to HEAD branch. > > Please, count my vote for this approvement. It can help, for example, > translation teams. I have future plans to start man pages translation for > different branches, it will be more clear to me track them in appropriate > branches.. Man pages are the one area where branching might be a good idea, as they are much more closely tied to the underlying system. Not books/ or articles/ though. > P.S. Is doc freeze over? I seen commits to doc tree without "Approved by:" > line, but missed "freeze over" announce. Yes, my mistake. However, per the recent discussions on committers, can anyone who is committing *please* take the time to run "make lint" on stuff before they commit it. I don't particularly want to have to use CVS to enforce this rule, but I will if necessary. Also, if you (i.e., everyone reading this, not just you Andrey) are committing to a language-specific part of the doc/ tree, please take the time to ensure that the language you are using is clear. For example, if English is not your native language, and you are committing to en*/*, please get your changes reviewed by someone who is a native English speaker -- either post them to this list, or, if necessary, send them directly to me. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 8: 5:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp (fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp [192.51.44.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0060437B7FA; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:05:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp) Received: from m1.gw.fujitsu.co.jp by fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-MX0002-Fujitsu Gateway) id BAA03480; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:05:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp) Received: from incapgw.fujitsu.co.jp by m1.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-0002-Fujitsu Domain Master) id BAA20503; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:05:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost ([192.168.245.173]) by incapgw.fujitsu.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-0002) id BAA02384; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:05:37 +0900 (JST) To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, shin@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/17506: reference to man page that does not exist In-Reply-To: <200003201522.HAA49772@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200003201522.HAA49772@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94 on Emacs 20.4 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) X-Prom-Mew: Prom-Mew 1.93.4 (procmail reader for Mew) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000321010632Z.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:06:32 +0900 From: Yoshinobu Inoue X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 61 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Synopsis: reference to man page that does not exist > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->shin > Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh > Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 20 07:18:45 PST 2000 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > Inoue-san, what's racoon(8)? :-) It is IPsec related ISAKMP key exchange daemon, and sorry, it is not yet added. (I'm think of adding a port for it.) I also find another non exsit reference for dtcpc(8), dtcps(8). They are dynamic tunnel configuration tool. I think following patches will fix them, and I'll commit them. Yoshinobu Inoue Index: ipsec.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/ipsec.4,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 ipsec.4 --- ipsec.4 2000/03/12 16:37:25 1.3 +++ ipsec.4 2000/03/20 16:01:29 @@ -206,8 +206,9 @@ .Xr intro 4 , .Xr ip6 4 , .Xr setkey 8 , -.Xr sysctl 8 , -.Xr racoon 8 +.Xr sysctl 8 +.\" (racoon doesn't exist yet.) +.\" .Xr racoon 8 .Pp .Rs .%A Daniel L. McDonald Index: kame.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/kame.4,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 kame.4 --- kame.4 2000/03/12 16:10:13 1.3 +++ kame.4 2000/03/20 16:01:29 @@ -97,9 +97,10 @@ .Ss IPsec and tunnelling .Xr gifconfig 8 , .Xr ipsec 4 , -.Xr dtcpc 8 , -.Xr dtcps 8 , -.Xr racoon 8 , +.\" (dtcp and racoon doesn't exist yet.) +.\" .Xr dtcpc 8 , +.\" .Xr dtcps 8 , +.\" .Xr racoon 8 , .Xr setkey 8 . .Pp Dozen of existing tools are modified for IPsec support, like cvs server: Diffing man4.i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 9: 0:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1EE37B966; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA64278; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:53:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:53:01 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't Build docproj on 4.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20000320145604.C4023@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finally got the package for w3m, and with that in place, the rest of it built. Thanks. Annelise On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 02:19:36PM -0800, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > Probably you already know this. This is a 4.0-RELEASE built from > > source upgrading a recent 3.4-STABLE. > > Known bug with the w3m build. Removing patch-aa from boehm-gc and > rebuilding that seems to be the current consensus on the best way to > fix it -- see -current mailing list for more details. > > I don't run -current, otherwise I'd have got a handle on this much > earlier. I'm in the process of setting up a couple of scratch disks > to do so, so more info later. > > N > -- > Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. > Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, > hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. > Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. > -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 11: 0:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAAB37C2CF for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA73535 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:00:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003201900.LAA73535@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/02/08] docs/16585 doc no info documentation for nm (binutils) i 1 problem total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/09/09] docs/7873 doc poor initial configuration and documentat o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/08/23] docs/13341 doc FAQ 8.7 addition - booting drive 1 from N o [1999/08/28] docs/13441 doc incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env o [1999/08/28] docs/13442 doc docproj-primer does not mention where to o [1999/09/17] docs/13792 doc Difficult to find documentation of "secur o [1999/09/19] docs/13815 doc Out-of-date FAQ entries o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/09/29] docs/14035 doc tzfile.h referenced in tzfile(5) doesn't o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/25] docs/14532 doc Much of cam_cdbparse(3) prints in Courier o [1999/10/27] docs/14563 doc Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [1999/11/03] docs/14682 doc lprm(1) unaware of lp(1) Environment Vari o [1999/12/10] docs/15408 doc Description of ls and nlist wrong in man o [1999/12/19] docs/15561 doc regex(3) manpage needs update o [1999/12/23] docs/15661 doc Handbook doesn't properly document bootin o [2000/01/01] docs/15821 doc Wrong device names in manpages for lpt(4) o [2000/01/04] docs/15890 doc rfork(RFMEM) on SMP generates error o [2000/01/18] docs/16173 doc [PATCH] fix for the kld/cdev example o [2000/01/29] docs/16439 doc fdp-primer - difficulties with split SGML o [2000/02/16] docs/16748 doc Documentation of Linux Mode for 2.1 is ob o [2000/02/16] docs/16764 doc Include link to "Linux-Oracle on FreeBSD" o [2000/02/23] docs/16934 doc anon transfer log doesn't log all xfers o [2000/02/26] docs/17014 doc send-pr sets MAIL_AGENT unconditionally o [2000/03/01] docs/17101 doc Useless reference in the doscmd manpage o [2000/03/01] docs/17105 doc Wrong crossreference in ndc(8). o [2000/03/08] docs/17269 doc Description of Symbols in nm(1) o [2000/03/11] docs/17333 doc IPv6 man typos (rrenumd.conf.5, prefix.8, o [2000/03/13] docs/17364 doc Fix minor errors and omissions in FAQ o [2000/03/18] docs/17469 doc Missing man page: sigwait o [2000/03/18] docs/17470 doc Missing man page: pthread_yield 34 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 14: 9:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828BC37B99E; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:09:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA11598; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:09:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:09:16 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200003202209.OAA11598@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/16748: Documentation of Linux Mode for 2.1 is obsolete Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Documentation of Linux Mode for 2.1 is obsolete Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jim Responsible-Changed-By: jim Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 20 14:08:42 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. This is the next chapter on my list of stuff to do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 15:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E2A37BD1D for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA23365; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C49637BB4A for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from d1o90.telia.com (d1o90.telia.com [195.67.216.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA13236; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:39:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from stordatan.telia.com (t2o90p43.telia.com [195.67.216.163]) by d1o90.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15398; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:39:30 +0100 (CET) Received: (from girgen@localhost) by stordatan.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA07702; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:39:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Message-Id: <200003202339.AAA07702@stordatan.telia.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:39:04 +0100 (CET) From: Palle Girgensohn Reply-To: Palle Girgensohn To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: imp@village.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17518: Please update the UPDATING document Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17518 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Please update the UPDATING document >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 20 15:50:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Palle Girgensohn >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Partitur >Environment: Updating from version 3.x to version 4. >Description: The UPDATING document in the src dir need a few more lines to prevent problems. To build a kernel ----------------- Update config, genassym and go: cd src/usr.bin/genassym make depend all install clean cd ../../usr.sbin/config make depend all install clean cd ../../sys/i386/conf + Before config can run, it needs to find a libc.so.4 to link with. I did this by setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc, but there are many other ways. config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make depend && make make install To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable -------------------------------- cd /usr/src make buildworld cd sbin/mknod make install + also, kld modules need to be installed, especially if you're using vinum! cd sys/modules && make install is one way to go, but perhaps copying the old ones somewhere safe first is a good idea [*] reboot cd /usr/src + a make test here is a very good idea. If the user (like I did on one of my machines) forgets to remove the /etc/rc.conf.local, the make binary will get installed first of all, and since it cannot run without the new libc, thing will come to a prompt halt. make will not run again until you get libc.so.4 in your ld path. make -DNOINFO installworld make installworld >How-To-Repeat: Get a 3.x installation preferrably with vinum volume management. Follow the UPDATING document when updating to version 4. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 15:52: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3889E37BA83; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:52:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA23738; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200003202352.PAA23738@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/16764: Include link to "Linux-Oracle on FreeBSD" page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Include link to "Linux-Oracle on FreeBSD" page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jim Responsible-Changed-By: jim Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Mar 20 15:51:42 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 16:38:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mw2.texas.net (mw2.texas.net [206.127.30.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3133F37BA87 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:38:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luser@texas.net) Received: from 206.127.8.28 (www2.texas.net [207.207.0.42]) by mw2.texas.net (2.4/2.4) with SMTP id SAA14222 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:38:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200003210038.SAA14222@mw2.texas.net> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: luser@texas.net Subject: subscribe Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:38:22 US/Central X-Mailer: Texas.Net Webmail (Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.12) X-User: luser Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 20:38:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.funing.com.hk (mail.funing.com.hk [152.101.73.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E4637BAB4 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:38:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tung@funing.com.hk) Received: from tung ([152.101.73.189]) by mail.funing.com.hk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA02686 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:25:08 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <028f01bf9089$80f62ec0$bd496598@funing.com.hk> From: "Tung Chan" To: Subject: the link problem Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:24:42 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_028C_01BF90CC.8E83E580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_028C_01BF90CC.8E83E580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks your work first. it make us have a great & free OS. I want go to=20 http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/userppp.html but the web retrun this: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ppp-and-slip.html#USERPPP please check the file!=20 can you notice me when update ? where is the old document? (I means if I want find the doc of ver2.2.x) thanks! tung ------=_NextPart_000_028C_01BF90CC.8E83E580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks your work first. it make us have a great & free = OS.
 
I want go to
http://www.freebsd.= org/handbook/userppp.html
 
but the web retrun this:
http:/= /www.freebsd.org/handbook/ppp-and-slip.html#USERPPP
 
please check the file!
can you notice me when update ?
where is the old document? (I means if I want find the doc of=20 ver2.2.x)
 
thanks!
 
tung
 
------=_NextPart_000_028C_01BF90CC.8E83E580-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 20 23:30: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218C337BAED for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA92562; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail2.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB4F437B63E for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:21:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tms@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 8761 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2000 07:21:05 -0000 Received: from du29.cli.ptd.net (HELO beowulf.bsd.home) (204.186.33.29) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 21 Mar 2000 07:21:05 -0000 Received: (from tms@localhost) by beowulf.bsd.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01053; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 02:20:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tms) Message-Id: <200003210720.CAA01053@beowulf.bsd.home> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 02:20:10 -0500 (EST) From: tms2@mail.ptd.net Reply-To: tms2@mail.ptd.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17521: Proposed FAQ on assembly programming Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17521 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Proposed FAQ on assembly programming >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 20 23:30:00 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Thomas M. Sommers >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: The FAQ applies only to i386 machines. >Description: Information on assembly programming is not readily available. In particular, the correct way to make syscalls is not at all obvious. The proposed FAQ shows how to write a "Hello, world." program in assembly. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Hello, World in FreeBSD Assembler

How do I write "Hello, world" in FreeBSD assembler?

This program prints "Hello, world." on the standard output, and then exits with an exit status of 0. It is written for Intel machines, to be assembled by the GNU assembler, as. The syntax used by as is different from Intel's, but is common in the Unix world. See man as or info as for details. This syntax is known as AT&T syntax. The most important difference for present purposes is that the order of operands is reversed: the source operand comes first, then the destination.

The program works by first calling write(2) to write the message, and then calling exit(2) to exit.

 1:         .data                       # Data section
 2: 
 3: msg:    .string "Hello, world.\n"   # The string to print.
 4:         len = . - msg - 1           # The length of the string.
 5:     
 5:         .text                       # Code section.
 6:         .global _start
 7:
 8: _start:                             # Entry point.
10:         pushl   $len                # Arg 3 to write: length of string.
11:         pushl   $msg                # Arg 2: pointer to string.
12:         pushl   $1                  # Arg 1: file descriptor.
13:         movl    $4, %eax            # Write.
14:         call    do_syscall
15:         addl    $12, %esp           # Clean stack.
16:
17:         pushl   $0                  # Exit status.
18:         movl    $1, %eax            # Exit.
19:         call    do_syscall
20:
21: do_syscall:   
22:         int     $0x80               # Call kernel.
23:         ret

_start (line 8) is the default name for a program's entry point.

Arguments to system calls are placed on the stack from right to left, just as in C. Lines 10 through 12 push the arguments for write(2) on the stack, and line 17 pushes the argument for exit(2). Note that the caller is responsible for cleaning up the stack after control has returned from the call.

System calls are made by putting the call's index in EAX (lines 13 and 18), and then invoking int $0x80 (line 22). Important: A call must be made after the arguments are placed on the stack and before the int $0x80. If you replace call do_syscall (lines 14 and 19) with int $0x80, the program will not work.

The kernel puts the system call's return value in EAX. This program ignores the value returned by write(2).

Assemble the program with (assuming you saved it as hello.s)

    as -o hello.o hello.s
and link it with
    ld -o hello hello.o

It is also possible to invoke system calls using libc instead of doing it directly through int $0x80.

 1:         .data
 2:
 3: msg:    .string "Hello, world.\n"
 4:         len = . - msg - 1       
 5:
 6:         .text
 7:         .extern write
 8:         .extern exit
 9:         .global main
10:
11: main:
12:         pushl   $len
13:         pushl   $msg
14:         pushl   $1
15:         call    write
16:         addl    $12, %esp
17:
18:         pushl   $0
19:         call    exit

Since we are linking with libc, we must also use the C startup code, which means that the entry point to our program is now main (line 11) instead of _start.

The easiest way to assemble and link this program is through cc, which will take care of linking in the proper startup modules in the correct order:

    cc -o hello hello.s

Resources

There is a lot of information available about assembly programming on Intel machines, but little if any of it applies to FreeBSD specifically (hence this FAQ). All of the books I have seen, and most of the Web sites, are about programming in an MS-DOS environment. These books can be useful for a FreeBSD programmer to the extent that they discuss general principles or the Intel instruction set, but of course nothing specific to MS-DOS or the PC BIOS will work under FreeBSD. There is also some material on the Web concerning assembly programming under Linux, but the same caveat applies.

Here are some Web links that you might find useful:

Intel Manuals
Reference manuals for Intel processors can be found here.
Art of Assembly Language
A well-regarded and very long (~1500 page) online textbook for assembly programming in MS-DOS.
Linux Assembly
Assembly programming under Linux. Some useful information for FreeBSD programmers, but be wary of the differences between FreeBSD and Linux.
NASM
If you prefer Intel syntax in your assembler, try NASM. It is in the FreeBSD ports system.
comp.lang.asm.x86 Host page
Contains links to other Intel assembly resources on the Web.
Alpha Assembly Language Programmer's Guide
Probably useful if you are running FreeBSD on an Alpha.
>Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 5:11:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C261337B836; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:11:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2/$Revision: 1.4 $) with ESMTP id SAA45399; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:10:50 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from andy@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.8.6) id SAA61370; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:10:50 +0500 (ES) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Message-Id: <200003211310.SAA61370@mail.cgu.chel.su> Subject: Re: doc/ tree tagging In-Reply-To: <20000320145401.B4023@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> from Nik Clayton at "Mar 20, 2000 02:54:01 pm" To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG (Nik Clayton) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:10:50 +0500 (ES) Cc: andy@cgu.chel.su (Andrey Zakhvatov), phantom@FreeBSD.ORG (Alexey Zelkin), doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, > > Please, count my vote for this approvement. It can help, for example, > > translation teams. I have future plans to start man pages translation for > > different branches, it will be more clear to me track them in appropriate > > branches.. > > Man pages are the one area where branching might be a good idea, as they > are much more closely tied to the underlying system. Not books/ or > articles/ though. Totally agreed. Branching is good for man pages, but for articles/books it looks strange (better to use paragraphs about different OS versions). And what to do with man pages? What about: 1) Create subtree exclusively for man pages (partially already there - share/man), a-la doc/ tree (i.e. with different languages in mind). 2) Move all man pages from utilities sources to this directory and track them here. I think it can help to simplify tracking man pages for translation teams. Sincerely yours, Andy. -- Tel: +7-(3512)-38-39-73, E-mail: andy@icc.surw.chel.su WWW: http://surw.chel.su/~andy/index.html, ICQ:10705306 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 9:32: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3139E37BA4E for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:32:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA96993 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:47:12 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26545 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:49:45 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:49:43 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject:
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    to good effect, but I think the kludgy nature of the solution is deeply offensive :-) I'd like our HTML to be as clean as possible. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 9:32:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92F937C086 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA97000 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:47:13 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26460 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:30:58 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:30:58 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: $DIR/$DIR.sgml -> $DIR/index.sgml Message-ID: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, Comments please, before I ask the CVS-meisters to do the copy: A glance at the web site will show that we have a mix and match of 'index' file names. [ An "index" file in this context means the "master" file for each section of the web site. For example, the index file for the java section is java/index.sgml, for the Doc. Proj section it's docproj/docproj.sgml, for the news section it's news/news.sgml, for the releases it's releases/index.sgml, and so on ] Sometimes we use $DIR/$DIR.sgml, other times we use $DIR/index.sgml. I'd like to suggest that 1. From now on, we always use $DIR/index.sgml 2. The repo-meisters copy $DIR/$DIR.sgml to $DIR/index.sgml where that's not the case, and I'll patch up the Makefiles as necessary. This will 1. Make the web site structure more consistent, which means there are fewer rules to carry around in your head when working on it. 2. Bring it more in to line with every other website I've ever worked on. 3. Allow Apache DirectoryIndex directives to work properly, allowing us to quote URLs of the form .../news/, or .../docproj/. Ultimately, I'd like a structure whereby each major section in the site has an "obvious" name: alpha, java, ports, news, ... with an index.sgml file in each one, containing pointers to all the appropriate information for that section. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 9:33:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07A937BC2E for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA97001 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:47:13 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26440 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:23:08 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:23:08 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Updated news page Message-ID: <20000321112308.A26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks, Attached is an updated news page for the FreeBSD site -- I've included the whole file because the diff would be twice the size. Any comments before I put it live? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="news.sgml" %includes; %newsincludes; ]> &header;

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    &footer; --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 9:40:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB77F37BC49; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:39:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA97005; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:47:14 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24834; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:23:51 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:23:50 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Appending mailing list links to documents Message-ID: <20000318132350.A9834@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000313205349.A48293@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <86vh2p438s.wl@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <86vh2p438s.wl@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:05:07AM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:05:07AM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > From: Nik Clayton > > 2. The best way to handle i18n in the patch. > > To handle this cleanly, we should have l10n-{en,es,fr,ja,ru,zh}.ent > files like as Norm's dsssl-docbook-modular distribution. Possibly. The problem with that is that (a) Norm doesn't address the issue of different character sets, which we do. (b) As far as I can see, DSSSL doesn't support 'positional parameters' (see printf(3), and the '$' format string), making it tricky to do l10n where you're replacing more than one item, and where the order of items in the string might change depending on the language. Really, you need a way to address this that's more comprehensive than simple translating a word from one language to another. Then I had a brain wave. Check out the attached patches. Basically, the idea is that now, instead of having one freebsd.dsl file that contains all the language specific code as well as the language independent definitions, we keep language independent stuff only in doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl. All the language dependent stuff goes in to doc//share/sgml/freebsd.dsl. So we'll have one of these per language (and encoding). This, second, freebsd.dsl includes the doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl file, in the same way that doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl includes Norm Walsh's stylesheets. However, it overrides, or adds to the definition in that file. So our stylesheet definitions are spread out in to three places, instead of the two they're currently located: $PREFIX/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular The original stylesheets. doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl Customisations that apply to the FDP as a whole. These are used to enforce a consistent style on the output. doc//share/sgml/freebsd.dsl Customisations that apply to a specific language. These include any changes to, for example, specify the language and encoding of the output HTML file. When building the docs, the Makefile (actually, doc.docbook.mk) has to refer to doc//share/sgml/freebsd.dsl, instead of the current doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl. This means that the various Makefile.inc files no longer need to include a "JADEFLAGS+= -ilang.", as those settings can be set in the language specific freebsd.dsl, instead of being options in the master freebsd.dsl file. There are two files attached to this message. The first is a patch to apply to the top of the doc/ tree, which fixes up the existing Makefile's and the share/sgml/freebsd.dsl file. It also sorts out share/mk/doc.docbook.mk, because the DSL* variable values have changed. [ doc.docbook.mk also has another small patch -- Palm Pilots don't like having multiple files installed with the same name. So this just symlinks "book.pdb" to ${.CURDIR:T}.pdb -- eg., in the handbook, you get a "book.pdb" file, and a link to it called "handbook.pdb". This makes it a bit easier to install these on the Palm Pilot. ] The second is a tar file to extract at the top of the doc/ tree, which contains the new /share/sgml/freebsd.dsl files Give it a go, let me know what you think. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc.diff" Index: ja_JP.eucJP/articles/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/articles/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile.inc --- Makefile.inc 2000/01/06 07:22:40 1.1.1.1 +++ Makefile.inc 2000/03/18 12:59:34 @@ -3,7 +3,6 @@ # # Original revision: 1.3 -JADEFLAGS= -ilang.ja TIDYFLAGS= -raw DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/ja/articles/${.CURDIR:T} Index: ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile.inc --- Makefile.inc 1999/09/06 06:53:19 1.4 +++ Makefile.inc 2000/03/18 12:59:57 @@ -2,7 +2,6 @@ # $FreeBSD: doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/Makefile.inc,v 1.4 1999/09/06 06:53:19 peter Exp $ # -JADEFLAGS= -ilang.ja TIDYFLAGS= -raw DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/ja/books/${.CURDIR:T} Index: ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile.inc --- Makefile.inc 1999/10/31 22:13:32 1.4 +++ Makefile.inc 2000/03/18 12:58:52 @@ -2,7 +2,6 @@ # $FreeBSD: doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/Makefile.inc,v 1.4 1999/10/31 22:13:32 phantom Exp $ # -JADEFLAGS= -ilang.ru TIDYFLAGS= -raw DESTDIR?= ${DOCDIR}/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/${.CURDIR:T} Index: share/mk/doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 doc.docbook.mk --- doc.docbook.mk 2000/03/08 11:21:37 1.8 +++ doc.docbook.mk 2000/03/17 23:07:05 @@ -49,8 +49,8 @@ JADE= ${PREFIX}/bin/jade -DSLHTML?= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -DSLPRINT?= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl +DSLHTML?= ../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl +DSLPRINT?= ../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl FREEBSDCATALOG= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/catalog DOCBOOKCATALOG= ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/docbook/catalog @@ -137,8 +137,8 @@ _docs+= ${DOC}.doc CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.doc .elif ${_cf} == "pdb" -_docs+= ${DOC}.pdb -+CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.pdb +_docs+= ${DOC}.pdb ${.CURDIR:T}.pdb ++CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.pdb ${.CURDIR:T}.pdb .endif .endfor @@ -185,7 +185,10 @@ w3m -S -dump ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} ${DOC}.pdb: ${DOC}.html - iSilo386 -y -d0 -Idef ${DOC}.html ${DOC}.pdb + iSiloBSD -y -d0 -Idef ${DOC}.html ${DOC}.pdb + +${.CURDIR:T}.pdb: ${DOC}.pdb + ln -f ${DOC}.pdb ${.CURDIR}.pdb ${DOC}.rtf: ${SRCS} ${JADE} -Vrtf-backend -ioutput.print ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLPRINT} -t rtf -o ${.TARGET} ${MASTERDOC} Index: share/sgml/freebsd.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 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Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 9:58:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (CBL-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net [209.178.114.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785F337BBE2; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:58:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Received: from uta003594 (uta003594.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.211.36]) by cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA14120; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:58:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Message-ID: <016c01bf935f$7e720100$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> From: "Sean Kelly" To: "Nik Clayton" , References: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Subject: Re: $DIR/$DIR.sgml -> $DIR/index.sgml Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:01:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > 1. From now on, we always use $DIR/index.sgml Hear, hear! (Or is that, here, here?) > Ultimately, I'd like a structure whereby each major section in the site > has an "obvious" name: alpha, java, ports, news, ... with an index.sgml > file in each one, containing pointers to all the appropriate information > for that section. Indeed. I hate navigating IBM's web site, but they do allow me to construct an URL like http://ibm.com/java/, and get to the Java information I need. I hate to say it, but even Micro$oft got it right when they deployed their website: microsoft.com/ie, microsoft.com/java, and microsoft.com/games all take me where I expect to go. --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 9:59: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (CBL-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net [209.178.114.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9EC37BC56; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Received: from uta003594 (uta003594.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.211.36]) by cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA14124; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Message-ID: <016d01bf935f$820b7b70$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> From: "Sean Kelly" To: "Nik Clayton" , References: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Subject: Re: $DIR/$DIR.sgml -> $DIR/index.sgml Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:01:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > 1. From now on, we always use $DIR/index.sgml Hear, hear! (Or is that, here, here?) > Ultimately, I'd like a structure whereby each major section in the site > has an "obvious" name: alpha, java, ports, news, ... with an index.sgml > file in each one, containing pointers to all the appropriate information > for that section. Indeed. I hate navigating IBM's web site, but they do allow me to construct an URL like http://ibm.com/java/, and get to the Java information I need. I hate to say it, but even Micro$oft got it right when they deployed their website: microsoft.com/ie, microsoft.com/java, and microsoft.com/games all take me where I expect to go. --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 10:29:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (adsl-63-192-209-55.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.209.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAE137BC24; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:29:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EB97D1F8; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:28:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:28:29 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: $DIR/$DIR.sgml -> $DIR/index.sgml Message-ID: <20000321102829.B3313@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 11:30:58AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 at 11:30:58 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Hi folks, > > Comments please, before I ask the CVS-meisters to do the copy: > [snip..] > I'd like to suggest that > > 1. From now on, we always use $DIR/index.sgml > > 2. The repo-meisters copy $DIR/$DIR.sgml to $DIR/index.sgml where > that's not the case, and I'll patch up the Makefiles as > necessary. Sounds like a great idea to me :-) - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 15:14:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from azazel.zer0.org (azazel.zer0.org [209.133.53.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8489537BDDC for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by azazel.zer0.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA28216; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:13:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:13:27 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Sean Kelly Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: $DIR/$DIR.sgml -> $DIR/index.sgml Message-ID: <20000321151327.C27767@azazel.zer0.org> References: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <016d01bf935f$820b7b70$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <016d01bf935f$820b7b70$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov>; from kelly@ad1440.net on Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:01:35AM -0800 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-03-21 10:01 -0800, Sean Kelly wrote: > > 1. From now on, we always use $DIR/index.sgml > > Hear, hear! (Or is that, here, here?) You've got it right the first time. Searching for a distionary entry didn't yield any exact results, but one entry noted that it was an idiomatic expression intended to convey agreement. Web1913 also has a relevant note: Note: Hear, or Hear him, is often used in the imperative, especially in the course of a speech in English assemblies, to call attention to the words of the speaker. Hear him, . . . a cry indicative, according to the tone, of admiration, acquiescence, indignation, or derision. --Macaulay. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Black holes were created mailto:gsutter@zer0.org when God divided by zero. http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 15:30:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B194C37BF12 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA62431; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.hcisp.net (Stargate.hcisp.net [208.60.89.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7372937BE15 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:22:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@mysql.com) Received: (qmail 24799 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2000 23:28:32 -0000 Received: from modem13.hcisp.net (HELO threads.polyesthetic.msg) (208.60.89.79) by stargate.hcisp.net with SMTP; 21 Mar 2000 23:28:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 2647 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Mar 2000 23:22:06 -0000 Message-Id: <20000321232206.2646.qmail@threads.polyesthetic.msg> Date: 21 Mar 2000 23:22:06 -0000 From: "Thimble Smith" Reply-To: tim@mysql.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17538: no manpage for pthread_sigmask, pthread_kill, sigwait Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17538 >Category: docs >Synopsis: no man page for pthread_kill(3) and friends >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 21 15:30:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Thimble Smith >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: There is no man page for pthread_sigmask, pthread_kill, or sigwait. If I knew more about them, I'd submit it with this report. :) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 18:32:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71ED437BA94; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:32:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unfurl@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from unfurl@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA83676; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unfurl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:32:55 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200003220232.SAA83676@freefall.freebsd.org> To: unfurl@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jasone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17538: no man page for pthread_kill(3) and friends Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: no man page for pthread_kill(3) and friends Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jasone Responsible-Changed-By: unfurl Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Mar 21 18:30:58 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: This is Jason's baby. I discussed this with him awhile back. The PR is a good way to remind him on a weekly basis that he has to write these manpages eventually :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 21:50: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D8E37C063 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:50:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA03897; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:50:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4B637BBAB for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:48:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA85982; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:48:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) Message-Id: <200003220548.AAA85982@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:48:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Crist J. Clark" Reply-To: cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17544: login.conf(5) should have pointer to cap_mkdb(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17544 >Category: docs >Synopsis: login.conf(5) should have pointer to cap_mkdb(1) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 21 21:50:00 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Crist J. Clark >Release: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: Standard installation of FreeBSD 3.x or 4.0. >Description: I made changes to my login.conf on my new 4.0 system and could not remember how to make a login.conf into a login.conf.db. Took me a while to track it down and the way I did was by 'apropos mkdb' which was only a guess. I think at the least a pointer to that manpage belongs in the 'SEE ALSO' section on login.conf(5). Building a database actually probably deserves a short paragraph, but this is just a quick fix. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: A patch, --- /usr/src/lib/libutil/login.conf.5 Fri Mar 10 04:02:37 2000 +++ login.conf.5 Wed Mar 22 00:40:10 2000 @@ -358,6 +357,7 @@ .Em host.exempt lists. .Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr cap_mkdb 1 , .Xr login 1 , .Xr getcap 3 , .Xr getttyent 3 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 22:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B31D37C0C4 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA08976; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45E437BC0C for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA06451; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:12:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200003220612.WAA06451@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:12:18 -0800 (PST) From: hiro@mail.advok.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/17545: Typo in ncplist.1 and ncplogout.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17545 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in ncplist.1 and ncplogout.1 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 21 22:20:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yoshihiro Ota >Release: FreeBSD3.2 >Organization: jpman project >Environment: 4.0-current src/usr.bin/ncplist/ncplist.1,v 1.1 1999/10/20 11:31:01 src/usr.bin/ncplogin/ncplogout.1,v 1.2 1999/11/14 13:39:49 >Description: There are typos in ncplist.1 and ncplotout.1 In ncplist.1, Original, "First argument are one letter" Fix, "First argument is one letter" In ncplogout.1, "shedule" shuold be "schedule". There are two of that in ncplogout. >How-To-Repeat: man 1 ncplist man 1 ncplogout >Fix: Sorry, I don't have original docs and couldn't diff. I hope you can easily find where they are from the following. In ncplist, ----- from here .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm ncplist .Ar command .Op Ar args .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm command used to display state of ncplib and NetWare servers. First argument are one letter .Ar command following by optional ------- until here First argument are one letter => First argument is one letter. In ncplogout, ----- from here .Sh NAME .Nm ncplogout -.Nd shedule permanent connection to close +.Nd schedule permanent connection to close ----- until here And ----- from here .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -will shedule connection created by +will schedule connection created by ----- until here. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 21 23: 1:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from 001.co.jp (ej1.001.co.jp [210.146.252.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A712D37C0E9; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mic@001.co.jp) Received: from ej1.001.co.jp.001.co.jp ([192.168.100.33]) by 001.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W:Mon Mar 16 22:26:19 JST 1998) with SMTP id OAA13838; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:52:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <002601bf93c5$3abbf4a0$2164a8c0@ej1.001.co.jp.001.co.jp> From: "=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJTAlbCE8JUglOCVjITwlSyE8GyhC?=" To: Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?IBskQiUwJWwhPCVIJTglYyVLITwbKEIgTkVXUyAbJEIhShsoQnZvbC4x?= =?iso-2022-jp?B?ORskQiFLGyhCIDAzMjIxMDA5?= Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:09:12 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=(B $BFMA3$N%a!<%k$9$k$3$H$r$*5v$72<$5$$!#(B $B8fLBOG$N$+$+$C$F$7$^$C$?J}!"$3$N%a!<%k$,ITMW$JJ}$XFO$$$F(B $B$7$^$C$F$$$^$7$?$i?<$/$*OM$S?=$7>e$2$^$9!#(B $B8fMF&IJ$N$40FFb$G$9!#(B $BEv&IJ"!!~(B--- http://www.001.co.jp/mic/gj/beach/supuringkyanpen3.html $B-!(B $BF|K\9R6uMxMQ!A%"%8%"$NN9!A!!(B $B!J9a9A!&%7%s%,%]!<%k!&%^%l!<%7%"!&%?%$!&%U%#%j%T%s!&%;%V(B $B!&%P%j!&%Y%H%J%`!&4Z(B $B9q!K(B $B-"(B $B%b%k%G%#%V%D%"!<(B $B#37nCf$K$4M=Ls$rD:$$$?J}$K$O!"0lN'!o#5!"#0#0#0$N%G%#%9%+(B $B%&%s%H!*!*(B $B-#(B $B%S%s%?%sEg!u%7%s%,%]!<%k#5F|4V(B $B!A:#$A$g$C$H$7$?%V!<%`$K$J$C$F$^$9!A(B $B$*Ld$$9g$o$;$r?4$h$j$*BT$A?=$7>e$2$F$*$j$^$9!#(B $B3t<02q Message-Id: <200003221309.FAA51100@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, imp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17518: Please update the UPDATING document Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Please update the UPDATING document Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->imp Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Mar 22 05:08:30 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to UPDATING's maintainer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 9:40: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9BC37BFC3 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA45407; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ada.eu.org (marvin.enst.fr [137.194.161.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F5B37B99A for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:35:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sam@infres.enst.fr) Received: from antinea.enst.fr (antinea.enst.fr [137.194.160.145]) by ada.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0C71907E for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:35:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by antinea.enst.fr (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6FE491E3; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:13:51 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20000322171351.6FE491E3@antinea.enst.fr> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:13:51 +0100 (CET) From: sam@enst.fr Reply-To: sam@enst.fr To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17552: Documentation error in divert(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17552 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Documentation error in divert(4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 22 09:40:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Samuel Tardieu >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: TELECOM Paris >Environment: >Description: When developing an toy application using divert(4), I was surprised to see that it was working only if the PF_INET/SOCK_RAW/IPPROTO_DIVERT socket, at bind() time, has a *valid* interface address (such as INADDR_ANY). divert(4) manpage says: The IP ad- dress in the bind is ignored; only the port number is significant. A di- vert socket bound to a divert port will receive all packets diverted to that port by some (here unspecified) kernel mechanism(s). This is false, as the bind() operation for a divert socket will call in_pcbbind() which makes use of the interface address. >How-To-Repeat: Build a PF_INET/SOCK_RAW/IPPROTO_DIVERT socket, bind it with a sockaddr_in structure which has an invalid sin_addr field. Diverted packets will not be available on the socket and will be silently dropped by the kernel as if no diverted socket was listening. >Fix: Two possible immediate fixes: (1) Doc fix: change divert(4) manpage (2) Code fix: when entering div_bind, change the nam->sin_addr field if nam->sin_family is AF_INET so that it contains INADDR_ANY. It may break things that would depend on the fact that a diverted socket can be bound to a particular interface though (natd does use INADDR_ANY explicitely). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 10: 6:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BB137BD97 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:06:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2/$Revision: 1.4 $) with ESMTP id XAA28332 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:06:19 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from andy@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.8.6) id XAA07272 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:06:19 +0500 (ES) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Message-Id: <200003221806.XAA07272@mail.cgu.chel.su> Subject: Re: doc/ tree tagging To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:06:18 +0500 (ES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, > > Please, count my vote for this approvement. It can help, for example, > > translation teams. I have future plans to start man pages translation for > > different branches, it will be more clear to me track them in appropriate > > branches.. > > Man pages are the one area where branching might be a good idea, as they > are much more closely tied to the underlying system. Not books/ or > articles/ though. Totally agreed. Branching is good for man pages, but for articles/books it looks strange (better to use paragraphs about different OS versions). And what to do with man pages? What about: 1) Create subtree exclusively for man pages (partially already there - share/man), a-la doc/ tree (i.e. with different languages in mind). 2) Move all man pages from utilities sources to this directory and track them here. I think it can help to simplify tracking man pages for translation teams. Sincerely yours, Andy. -- Tel: +7-(3512)-38-39-73, E-mail: andy@icc.surw.chel.su WWW: http://surw.chel.su/~andy/index.html, ICQ:10705306 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 10:10:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D926A37C1DE; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31400; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:49:47 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:49:47 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: committers@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: [nik@freebsd.org: Web based shared calendar...] Message-ID: <20000322164946.A30719@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do guys, [ Sent to -committers, -doc, and hostmaster@freebsd.org, as I need input from all of you ] I'm sending this again, and including -doc this time, as the response was somewhat underwhelming last time. Then again, we were pushing out a release. If there are no objections then I'll talk to Jay about getting a license for the software. I think this'll probably need to sit on a virtual host somewhere (calendar.freebsd.org?) as it really falls some way out of the traditional web site build and mirroring infrastructure. N ----- Forwarded message from Nik Clayton ----- Delivered-To: nik@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-committers@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:56:03 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: cvs-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Web based shared calendar... Organization: FreeBSD Project Hi guys, Y'know what we need? We need a web based calendar. We can use it to highlight planned release dates, conferences and exhibitions, user group meetings, committers birthdays, that sort of thing. If you go to http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/calendar/cgi-bin/calweb.cgi You'll see a candidate I'm proposing we use. First things first. The source code for this program is *not* freely available. It's a commercial application, and what's running at that URL is a demo version. That's why there are adverts top and bottom. But, please keep reading. Over the past couple of weeks I've been talking to Jay Rush, who runs Greathill Software, the author of the calendar application. He seems like a good guy, and, as most of us are, he's trying to make some money for his work. I first got in touch because some clients of my consulting business were looking for a web based calendar. The current state of the art in terms of open source calendaring systems seems to be rather poor, and the alternative are either very heavily priced, or rely too heavily on Java, or Javascript. We started talking about the possiblity of opening up the source code, and adapting his business model. At the moment, he's not yet convinced that releasing the source code to his company's main product would be a smart thing to do. I can't say I blame him -- he's not a big player as Netscape were, nor does he have lots of venture capital behind him. So, for the time being, the app source stays closed. However, and as a possible prelimenary to eventually releasing the source, he'd like to co-operate more with the Open Source community. There are a couple of ways I suggested that he do this. One (which will happen soon) is he'll be setting up a "calendar repository", for want of a better word. If you're a user group, or a small software project, or a small, non-profit organisation, and you want a web based calendar, they'll host it for you on their servers, for free, and with a little bit of advertising. The other thing I pointed out to him is that there are a number of larger projects and/or organisations out there that might be interested in using a web based calendar. Delving deep in to my personal experience, I suggested FreeBSD and Slashdot as possible candidates. He's obviously quite excited by this, and is quite keen to offer out free licenses for the software for this sort of thing. We get a free, good quality, web based calendar that we can customise the look and feel of, he gets publicity through the larger number of people that will be looking at the calendars, some of whom might actually click on the "Calendar software provided by Greathill Corporation" link at the bottom of each calendar. Everybody wins (in theory). So, with that in mind, please take the time to look at the URL above. Please don't heavily publicise it though -- I'm trying to keep this internal to FreeBSD and Slashdot for the time being, as I've only got a certain amount of time to deal with questions and suggestions. Keep in mind that the look and feel of the calendar can be heavily customised in the licensed version, and it won't have the honking big adverts on it. To play around with adding or changing events, you need to login (bottom right of the screen). For the time being, the username and password combination is demo/demo. That lets you do pretty much anything (including deleting events that other people have added), please play nicely. This will be a bugger to mirror, and I don't know how it will handle things like i18n and l10n. The latter issue we can resolve, mirroring may be more tricky. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 10:27:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2949C37BD97; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:27:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (postfix@genius.systems.pavilion.net [212.74.1.100]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26239; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:27:08 GMT (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id E43E432C; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:28:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:28:42 +0000 From: Joe Karthauser To: Nik Clayton Cc: committers@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [nik@freebsd.org: Web based shared calendar...] Message-ID: <20000322182842.F11473@genius.systems.pavilion.net> References: <20000322164946.A30719@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000322164946.A30719@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 04:49:47PM +0000 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 04:49:47PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > How do guys, > > [ Sent to -committers, -doc, and hostmaster@freebsd.org, as I need input > from all of you ] > > I'm sending this again, and including -doc this time, as the response > was somewhat underwhelming last time. Then again, we were pushing out > a release. > > If there are no objections then I'll talk to Jay about getting a license > for the software. I think this'll probably need to sit on a virtual host > somewhere (calendar.freebsd.org?) as it really falls some way out of the > traditional web site build and mirroring infrastructure. > > N I'll put it up here Nik, if no-one objects. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 12:13:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EBF37BD9E for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:13:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.net) Received: from home.net ([24.0.178.21]) by mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000322201353.NXNL17125.mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com@home.net> for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:13:53 -0800 Message-ID: <38D92A5B.226C36A0@home.net> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:17:31 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Site problems? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 3/22/2000 - 12:10 PM PST This URL http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ includes "Transfer Interrupted" embedded in the HTML??? Also, here: http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html the entry for April 1999 regarding Matrix links to 'advocacy.FreeBSD.org' which does not seem to exist any longer. Or does it? Thanks, Craig Burgess -- ... mind like a steel trap: things wander in and get mangled ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 13:17:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0269637B876 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:17:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [213.1.193.162] (helo=parish.my.domain) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12XsVk-0007mE-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:17:54 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00768; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:51:01 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:51:01 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Craig Burgess Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Site problems? Message-ID: <20000322205101.E248@parish> References: <38D92A5B.226C36A0@home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38D92A5B.226C36A0@home.net>; from craig-burgess@home.net on Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 12:17:31PM -0800 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 12:17:31PM -0800, Craig Burgess wrote: > 3/22/2000 - 12:10 PM PST > > This URL http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ includes "Transfer Interrupted" > embedded in the HTML??? > Not from where I'm looking. Try re-loading from the server (Shift-Reload in Netscape). > Also, here: http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html the entry for April > 1999 regarding Matrix links to 'advocacy.FreeBSD.org' which does not > seem to exist any longer. Or does it? > I'll agree with this one though :) > Thanks, > > Craig Burgess > -- > ... mind like a steel trap: things wander in and get mangled ... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Seminars, n.: From "semi" and "arse", hence, any half-assed discussion. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 13:39:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (web214.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAFAE37B65E for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:39:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jtmcnaughton@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5851 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2000 21:39:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322213905.5850.qmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.101.226.34] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:39:05 PST Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:39:05 -0800 (PST) From: James McNaughton To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org gave me this message FreeBSD.org - Document not found The file http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jraynard/source/ does not exist at this server. You are coming from http://www.freebsd.org/projects/#architecture. The closest match to your request is http://www.freebsd.org. Please contact the server administrator www@FreeBSD.org. Thank you very much! Sincerely, James McNaughton __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 14:42:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from noc.theworks.com (noc.theworks.com [206.171.181.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEF937C58F for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:42:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzdogg@noc.theworks.com) Received: by noc.theworks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:45:38 -0800 Message-ID: <315C6C99356DD111866C006008926532676C45@noc.theworks.com> From: Brian McKinney To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: info on changes made to nfs Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:45:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Iv been looking all over the freebsd website for a listing of the security updates made to nfs in freebsd 4.0-current. Does anyone know where i can get this? Thanks for any help. Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 16:23:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F3637B778 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca6-109.ix.netcom.com [205.186.213.109]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03369 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id QAA10660; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:22:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:22:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003230022.QAA10660@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: handbook build failure From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone else seeing this? It hasn't been building for at least a few days.... Satoshi ------- ## make clean && make all install rm -f `xargs < HTML.manifest` HTML.manifest /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /usr/opt/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/opt/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml /b/opt/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/b/opt/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml:456:6:E: general entity "man.rpc.rquotad.8" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/jade:/b/opt/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml:457:9:E: general entity "man.quota.1" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 16:31:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FD437B7A0 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:31:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C68E51BE; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:30:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:30:46 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Satoshi Asami Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook build failure Message-ID: <20000322163046.A28216@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <200003230022.QAA10660@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <200003230022.QAA10660@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from asami@cs.berkeley.edu on Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 04:22:39PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 at 16:22:39 -0800, Satoshi Asami wrote: > Is anyone else seeing this? It hasn't been building for at least a > few days.... Make sure your doc tree is up-to-date.. > ## make clean && make all install > rm -f `xargs < HTML.manifest` HTML.manifest > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /usr/opt/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/opt/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml /b/opt/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml > /usr/local/bin/jade:/b/opt/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml:456:6:E: general entity "man.rpc.rquotad.8" not defined and no default entity > /usr/local/bin/jade:/b/opt/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml:457:9:E: general entity "man.quota.1" not defined and no default entity > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. I committed this stuff 2 days ago. From the cvs logs.. ---------------------------- revision 1.29 date: 2000/03/20 21:00:59; author: jim; state: Exp; lines: +3 -1 Add bits needed for the quota section of the disks chapter. ---------------------------- - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 17:36:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.b3works.com (rb2512-23n.vel.net [207.182.226.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8ED37C211 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:36:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thomas.olausson@b3works.com) Received: from lincoln (imp [207.182.226.220]) by ns.b3works.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03760 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:33:03 -0800 From: Thomas Olausson Organization: b3works.com To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:38:29 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00032217385700.18314@lincoln> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 18: 4:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E37337B96A for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2N24Dk20014; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:04:14 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:04:13 +0900 Message-ID: <86aejqo31e.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: andy@cgu.chel.su Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: doc/ tree tagging Newsgroups: freebsd.doc In-Reply-To: In your message of "22 Mar 2000 18:06:41 GMT" <200003221806.XAA07272@mail.cgu.chel.su> References: <200003221806.XAA07272@mail.cgu.chel.su> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.0 (Overjoyed-pre5) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 9) (Canyonlands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is my personal opinion, not a committer of Japanese Manpage Translation Project... At 22 Mar 2000 18:06:41 GMT, Andrey Zakhvatov wrote: > Totally agreed. Branching is good for man pages, but for articles/books it > looks strange (better to use paragraphs about different OS versions). > And what to do with man pages? > What about: > 1) Create subtree exclusively for man pages (partially already > there - share/man), a-la doc/ tree (i.e. with different languages in mind). > 2) Move all man pages from utilities sources to this directory and track them > here. Ideally, translated man pages are good candidate for branching. But (as usually :-)) we cannot catch up multiple branches due to lack of translator (and reviewer). So if you are planning to translate manpages, please go for it with HEAD branch and think branching if you can handle both. :-) -- Jun Kuriyama // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 22 18:15:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351D637B87E for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:15:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca6-109.ix.netcom.com [205.186.213.109]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA32664; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA11195; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:14:24 -0800 (PST) To: jim@luna.cdrom.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook build failure References: <200003230022.QAA10660@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <20000322163046.A28216@luna.cdrom.com> From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:13:34 -0800 In-Reply-To: Jim Mock's message of "Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:30:46 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 6 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * I committed this stuff 2 days ago. From the cvs logs.. You're right, sorry. I have been doing "cvs update" in the handbook dir only since I saw the failure.... ;> Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 0:41:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AE037BAFD; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:40:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA89445; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:30:55 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:30:54 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: cvs@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do, [cc'd to -doc] Per a discussion on -doc, please could you repo-copy the following files to a file called "index.sgml" in the same directory as the original file. I.e., "en/alpha/alpha.sgml" to "en/alpha/index.sgml", and so on. I'll update the Makefiles, and any internal links afterwards, and then "cvs remove" the old files. All under www/ en/alpha/alpha.sgml en/commercial/commercial.sgml en/copyright/copyright.sgml en/docproj/docproj.sgml en/gallery/gallery.sgml en/internal/internal.sgml en/news/news.sgml en/projects/projects.sgml en/search/search.sgml en/security/security.sgml es/alpha/alpha.sgml es/copyright/copyright.sgml es/docproj/docproj.sgml es/internal/internal.sgml es/news/news.sgml es/projects/projects.sgml es/search/search.sgml es/security/security.sgml ja/alpha/alpha.sgml ja/commercial/commercial.sgml ja/copyright/copyright.sgml ja/docproj/docproj.sgml ja/gallery/gallery.sgml ja/internal/internal.sgml ja/news/news.sgml ja/projects/projects.sgml ja/search/search.sgml ja/security/security.sgml ru/alpha/alpha.sgml ru/commercial/commercial.sgml ru/copyright/copyright.sgml ru/docproj/docproj.sgml ru/gallery/gallery.sgml ru/internal/internal.sgml ru/news/news.sgml ru/projects/projects.sgml ru/search/search.sgml ru/security/security.sgml Thanks, N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 0:55:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DE737BE52; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:54:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id LAA09664; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:05:26 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id KAA11251; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:54:37 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:54:37 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Nik Clayton Cc: cvs@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:30:54AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Per a discussion on -doc, please could you repo-copy the following files > to a file called "index.sgml" in the same directory as the original file. > I.e., "en/alpha/alpha.sgml" to "en/alpha/index.sgml", and so on. 2cvsmeisters: I am sorry, but can you suspend doing it until resolution of some points ? Thank you! -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 1: 2:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA1937B60A; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 01:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA52996; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:01:42 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:01:41 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Nik Clayton , cvs@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from Alexey Zelkin on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 10:54:37AM +0300 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 10:54:37AM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:30:54AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > Per a discussion on -doc, please could you repo-copy the following files > > to a file called "index.sgml" in the same directory as the original file. > > I.e., "en/alpha/alpha.sgml" to "en/alpha/index.sgml", and so on. > > 2cvsmeisters: I am sorry, but can you suspend doing it until resolution > of some points ? Thank you! What's the problem? All the replies I've seen were in favour. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 1:23: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (ccssu.ccssu.crimea.ua [212.3.113.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091DA37B591; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 01:22:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.0) with UUCP id LAA10473; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:27:08 +0200 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id LAA11441; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:17:11 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:17:11 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: $DIR/$DIR.sgml -> $DIR/index.sgml Message-ID: <20000323111710.B5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 11:30:58AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Comments please, before I ask the CVS-meisters to do the copy: Sorry for late reply, but I was out of city for about 4 days and still have about 800 unread messages at my mailbox. > A glance at the web site will show that we have a mix and match of > 'index' file names. > > [ An "index" file in this context means the "master" file for each > section of the web site. For example, the index file for the java > section is java/index.sgml, for the Doc. Proj section it's > docproj/docproj.sgml, for the news section it's news/news.sgml, for > the releases it's releases/index.sgml, and so on ] I don't see any reason for doing it. Makefiles for all directories which does not contain index.sgml contain INDEXLINK= assignment and on installing stage INDEXLINK value is linking to index.html. IMHO, it more appropriate to have not any index.sgml in www tree because if I'll want to replace index.html file I have to make patch which will completely replace index.sgml. In current case I just need to commit new file and change one line in Makefile. > Sometimes we use $DIR/$DIR.sgml, other times we use $DIR/index.sgml. Probably better to change all index.sgml names to $DIR.sgml name. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 3:45:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3219037C45C; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA71598; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:45:51 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200003231145.DAA71598@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17545: Typo in ncplist.1 and ncplogout.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typo in ncplist.1 and ncplogout.1 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 23 03:45:33 PST 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 4:11:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA5037BF52; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:10:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id OAA11709; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:21:26 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id MAA14736; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:09:46 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:09:45 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 09:01:41AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > Per a discussion on -doc, please could you repo-copy the following files > > > to a file called "index.sgml" in the same directory as the original file. > > > I.e., "en/alpha/alpha.sgml" to "en/alpha/index.sgml", and so on. > > > > 2cvsmeisters: I am sorry, but can you suspend doing it until resolution > > of some points ? Thank you! > > What's the problem? All the replies I've seen were in favour. Nobody who answered is actively working on FreeBSD www server. ps: I did not see any answers from Wolfram. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 7:40: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC5E37B818 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA73210; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu [136.165.1.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A486F37C4C5 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:31:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k.stevenson@louisville.edu) Received: from osaka.louisville.edu (osaka.louisville.edu [136.165.1.114]) by erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16ADD25388 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by osaka.louisville.edu (Postfix, from userid 15) id BAC1518605; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:30:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20000323153041.BAC1518605@osaka.louisville.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: ktstev01@louisville.edu Reply-To: ktstev01@osaka.louisville.edu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17566: [PATCH] ssh(1) and sshd(8) manpage error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17566 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] ssh(1) and sshd(8) manpage error >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 23 07:40:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Keith Stevenson >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386 >Organization: University of Louisville >Environment: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE >Description: The man pages for ssh(1) and sshd(8) do not reflect the recent policy decision to not forward X11 connections by default. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: More enlightened persons may wish to review my wording in the patch. Index: ssh.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /opt/ncvs/src/crypto/openssh/ssh.1,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 ssh.1 --- ssh.1 2000/03/13 00:22:52 1.4 +++ ssh.1 2000/03/23 14:50:24 @@ -207,14 +207,15 @@ .Pp If the user is using X11 (the .Ev DISPLAY -environment variable is set), the connection to the X11 display is -automatically forwarded to the remote side in such a way that any X11 +environment variable is set), the connection to the X11 display can +be forwarded to the remote side in such a way that any X11 programs started from the shell (or command) will go through the encrypted channel, and the connection to the real X server will be made from the local machine. The user should not manually set .Ev DISPLAY . -Forwarding of X11 connections can be -configured on the command line or in configuration files. +Forwarding of X11 connections weakens the security of ssh and is +disabled by default. X11 forwarding can be enabled on the command line +or in configuration files. .Pp The .Ev DISPLAY Index: sshd.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /opt/ncvs/src/crypto/openssh/sshd.8,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 sshd.8 --- sshd.8 2000/03/13 00:22:52 1.5 +++ sshd.8 2000/03/23 15:22:27 @@ -480,9 +480,7 @@ The default is 10. .It Cm X11Forwarding Specifies whether X11 forwarding is permitted. The default is -.Dq yes . -Note that disabling X11 forwarding does not improve security in any -way, as users can always install their own forwarders. +.Dq no . .El .Sh LOGIN PROCESS When a user successfully logs in, >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 11:32:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A33137C4EB; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:32:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 16EB91C68; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:32:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:32:34 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323143234.J25438@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from phantom@cris.net on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:09:45PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:09:45PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > Nobody who answered is actively working on FreeBSD www server. > > ps: I did not see any answers from Wolfram. Failure to answer typically means approval in this project... -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 12: 2: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0DF37B89E; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:02:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B32186; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:01:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:01:09 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323120109.A3954@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from phantom@cris.net on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:09:45PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 at 12:09:45 +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > hi, > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 09:01:41AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > Per a discussion on -doc, please could you repo-copy the > > > > following files to a file called "index.sgml" in the same > > > > directory as the original file. I.e., "en/alpha/alpha.sgml" to > > > > "en/alpha/index.sgml", and so on. > > > > > > 2cvsmeisters: I am sorry, but can you suspend doing it until > > > resolution of some points ? Thank you! > > > > What's the problem? All the replies I've seen were in favour. > > Nobody who answered is actively working on FreeBSD www server. Uhm, check your commit logs again.. heh. I'm in agreement with Nik here, and since you're the only one objecting and everyone else seems to agree this is good, you're in the minority. Unless someone else speaks up against doing this, I think you're probably going to be out of luck. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 13:35:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561AB37C5F0 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:35:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A82E86; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:34:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:34:13 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: repo copy for doc directories (fwd) Message-ID: <20000323133413.I5129@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a message I've sent to Nik yesterday (along with his reply) and he suggested I ran it by the list before getting John or Peter to do the repo copy, so here it is. If I don't hear anything back on this within the next 24 hours, I'm going to request the repo copy. - jim --- Forwarded message from Nik Clayton --- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:49:56 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jim Mock Subject: Re: repo copy for doc directories X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:42:46AM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > I was wondering if you could do two repo copies for the handbook.. the > first one is the 'advanced-networking' directory. I think it would be > better called 'network-services' or something similar, since it deals > network services than advanced networking topics.. especially since DHCP > and DNS will be added to it.. > > The second is the linuxemu directory.. since it's not really emulation > (and when I work on that chapter today, I'm going to make sure that's > pointed out) I think it would be better called 'linuxcompat' instead due > to the fact that it's 'Linux binary compatibility' and no emulation > layer exists. > > If you object to either change, that's fine, it's not a big deal, I just > think updating them to reflect reality would be a good idea. I don't have a problem with either of these. Can you run them past -doc, just in case someone thinks of something I haven't, and then, if it's all OK, send them on to cvs@FreeBSD.org. [ I don't touch the doc/ repository directly, I leave that up to Peter and John, as they know what they're doing. . . ] N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery --- End forwarded message --- -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 14:33:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B346C37C894 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:31:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C67AC86; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:30:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:30:18 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: status of the handbook Message-ID: <20000323143018.A29698@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's been a while since I've sent one of these, mainly due to lack of time and lack of keeping an up-to-date todo list. At any rate, the deadline for getting this thing out for technical review is in 8 days (April 1st). With that said, the list of stuff left todo is dwindling at a pretty decent rate. Here's what we've got so far: [This is available at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jim/handbook.txt] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Last updated: Thu Mar 23 12:09:46 PST 2000 Finished (full chapters): ------------------------- Chapter 1 (introduction - jim) Chapter 2 (installing FreeBSD - jim) Chapter 3 (unix basics - chris shumway) Chapter 4 (the ports collection - jim) Chapter 5 (booting process - nbm) Chapter 6 (users and basic account management - nbm) Chapter 8 (security - unfurl) Chapter 10 (disks - nbm, jim) Chapter 11 (backups - jim) Chapter 12 (X - jim) Chapter 13 (localization - michael chin-yuan wu) Chapter 15 (ppp and slip - jim) Chapter 17 (electronic mail - jim) Chapter 18 (staying up-to-date with FreeBSD - jim) Chapter 23 (linux compatibility - jim) In progress (full chapters): ---------------------------- Chapter 7 (configuring the kernel - jim) Chapter 9 (printing - joel) Chapter 16 (advanced networking - unfurl) Chapter 24 (FreeBSD internals - michael chin-yuan wu) In progress (parts of chapters): -------------------------------- Chapter 16 (DHCP - greg) To do: ------ Chapter 14 (serial communications) Chapter 22 (kernel debugging) Breakdown of the above: ----------------------- Chapter 14 is another one of those topics I don't know jack about. It was assembled from the FAQ (at least parts of it were), so it might need some updating done to it. If it doesn't, restructuring won't be a problem. Chapter 16 is one of the ones being worked on currently. Hopefully we'll get the bits that are supposedly being worked on in time for me to add them in. If we don't get them, it'll just be restructured since it's pretty much up-to-date. Also, we're going to need to go through the completed bits and make sure that they're up-to-date for 4.0-R. --------------------------------------------------------------------- If anyone wants to lend a hand with the stuff that still needs doing, get in touch with me. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 14:48:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D196C37C5DE; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:47:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id XAA11458; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:47:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA01696; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:30:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:30:10 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Alexey Zelkin , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323233010.A1600@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323143234.J25438@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000323143234.J25438@jade.chc-chimes.com>; from billf@chc-chimes.com on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 02:32:34PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-03-23 14:32:34 -0500, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:09:45PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > > > Nobody who answered is actively working on FreeBSD www server. > > > > ps: I did not see any answers from Wolfram. > > Failure to answer typically means approval in this project... Nonsens. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 14:49: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D440A37C5D1; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:48:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id XAA11471; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:48:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA01757; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:44:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:44:34 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Jim Mock Cc: Alexey Zelkin , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323234434.B1600@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323120109.A3954@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000323120109.A3954@luna.cdrom.com>; from jim@luna.cdrom.com on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:01:09PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-03-23 12:01:09 -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 09:01:41AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > Per a discussion on -doc, please could you repo-copy the 36 hours between Niks mails is NOT a discussion! > > > > > following files to a file called "index.sgml" in the same > > > > > directory as the original file. I.e., "en/alpha/alpha.sgml" to > > > > > "en/alpha/index.sgml", and so on. This is a silly change. We do not rename foo/foo.c to foo/main.c just because someone think it looks better (ask Bruce if you don't believe me ;-). And we should not do that with HTML pages too. The users will have no benefits from these changes. > > > > 2cvsmeisters: I am sorry, but can you suspend doing it until > > > > resolution of some points ? Thank you! > > > > > > What's the problem? All the replies I've seen were in favour. > > > > Nobody who answered is actively working on FreeBSD www server. > > Uhm, check your commit logs again.. heh. I'm in agreement with Nik > here, and since you're the only one objecting and everyone else seems to > agree this is good, you're in the minority. Unless someone else speaks > up against doing this, I think you're probably going to be out of luck. And I have to fix the web pages if something failed ;-/ There are many *real* things to do on the FreeBSD web server. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 14:51:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F8737BB2B; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12YGRf-000H9u-00; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:51:15 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:51:15 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Jim Mock Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: repo copy for doc directories (fwd) Message-ID: <20000324005114.A65823@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000323133413.I5129@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000323133413.I5129@luna.cdrom.com> Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey Jim, > This is a message I've sent to Nik yesterday (along with his reply) and > he suggested I ran it by the list before getting John or Peter to do the > repo copy, so here it is. If I don't hear anything back on this within > the next 24 hours, I'm going to request the repo copy. I think we might want to consider a "compat" chapter, instead of "linuxcompat". Linux compatility would be the primary topic, but SVR4, and ibcs and so forth might be useful to have in the same chapter. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 14:51:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B781137C508; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4FD531C4A; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:51:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:51:22 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Alexey Zelkin , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323175122.Q25438@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323143234.J25438@jade.chc-chimes.com> <20000323233010.A1600@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000323233010.A1600@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>; from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 11:30:10PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 11:30:10PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > Failure to answer typically means approval in this project... > > Nonsens. So is objecting to the change a week after discussion was over. (ie, when implementation already started). See recent threads on -ports over the 'Version Required' stuff for more on the proper way to implement a plan. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 14:58:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3613037B58C; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:58:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 261C686; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:57:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:57:28 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Alexey Zelkin , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000323145728.A89569@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.cdrom.com References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323120109.A3954@luna.cdrom.com> <20000323234434.B1600@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000323234434.B1600@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>; from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 11:44:34PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 at 23:44:34 +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 2000-03-23 12:01:09 -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 09:01:41AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > > Per a discussion on -doc, please could you repo-copy the > > 36 hours between Niks mails is NOT a discussion! > > > > > > > following files to a file called "index.sgml" in the same > > > > > > directory as the original file. I.e., "en/alpha/alpha.sgml" > > > > > > to "en/alpha/index.sgml", and so on. > > This is a silly change. We do not rename foo/foo.c to foo/main.c > just because someone think it looks better (ask Bruce if you don't > believe me ;-). And we should not do that with HTML pages too. > > The users will have no benefits from these changes. I think it's more an issue of consistency. IMO, things should be one way or the other, not a mix of the two, and it doesn't really matter which at this point. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 15: 8:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B25837B5D1 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:08:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8E6E4B4; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:07:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:07:22 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: repo copy for doc directories (fwd) Message-ID: <20000323150721.B914@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20000323133413.I5129@luna.cdrom.com> <20000324005114.A65823@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.9i In-Reply-To: <20000324005114.A65823@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 12:51:15AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 at 00:51:15 +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > Hey Jim, > > > This is a message I've sent to Nik yesterday (along with his reply) and > > he suggested I ran it by the list before getting John or Peter to do the > > repo copy, so here it is. If I don't hear anything back on this within > > the next 24 hours, I'm going to request the repo copy. > > I think we might want to consider a "compat" chapter, instead of > "linuxcompat". Linux compatility would be the primary topic, but SVR4, > and ibcs and so forth might be useful to have in the same chapter. That sounds good to me. I hadn't even thought of that stuff since there's nothing there for it right now :-) - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 23 19:53: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailrelay.ywcn.or.id (ip51-globalinfo.indosat.net.id [202.155.5.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FA6137B67E for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:52:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yudi@pop.sby.globalinfo.net) Received: (qmail 3490 invoked by uid 502); 25 Mar 2000 03:44:33 -0000 Received: from pop.sby.globalinfo.net (167.205.169.8) by 167.205.169.9 with SMTP; 25 Mar 2000 03:44:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:57:37 PDT Message-Id: <200003241057.AA11731454@pop.sby.globalinfo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Yudi Eko Santoso" Reply-To: To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 24 0:22:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c012.sfo.cp.net (c012-h005.c012.sfo.cp.net [209.228.13.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1617737B815 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:22:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jacky_linux@altavista.com) Received: (cpmta 8325 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2000 00:22:48 -0800 Date: 24 Mar 2000 00:22:48 -0800 Message-ID: <20000324082248.8324.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> X-Sent: 24 Mar 2000 08:22:48 GMT Received: from [202.188.134.66] by mail.altavista.com with HTTP; 24 Mar 2000 00:22:48 PST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Jacky Chan X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.5.1.4 Subject: Would you allow me to Contribute a FreeBSD document. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir or Madam, I'm sending this mail to you because I want to tell you that I'd like to Contribute a FreeBSD Document and it will be in My Web page.The reason that make me to do it because I really love FreeBSD but it's not as popular as Linux. Secondly,I hope you can give me chance. Thank you very much!!! Best Wishes, Jacky ____________________________________________________________________ For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com ____________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 24 0:32:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635E337B619; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA79620; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:07:07 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:07:06 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jim Mock Cc: Wolfram Schneider , Alexey Zelkin , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repo copies for the doc/ tree Message-ID: <20000324020705.B75564@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000323003054.B43966@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323105437.A5757@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323090141.A85935@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000323120945.A14715@scorpion.crimea.ua> <20000323120109.A3954@luna.cdrom.com> <20000323234434.B1600@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20000323145728.A89569@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000323145728.A89569@luna.cdrom.com>; from Jim Mock on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 02:57:28PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 02:57:28PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > This is a silly change. We do not rename foo/foo.c to foo/main.c > > just because someone think it looks better (ask Bruce if you don't > > believe me ;-). And we should not do that with HTML pages too. > > > > The users will have no benefits from these changes. > > I think it's more an issue of consistency. IMO, things should be one > way or the other, not a mix of the two, and it doesn't really matter > which at this point. That's it, pretty much, in a nutshell. The fewer inconsistencies there are in the structure of the site, the less headspace I (and anyone else working on it) have to devote to remembering them, and the easier it is to document. Alexey (I think) said that this point was moot because of the INDEXLINK variable. If you look at web.mk, you'll see ... .if defined(INDEXLINK) && !empty(INDEXLINK) (cd ${DOCINSTALLDIR}; ln -s -f ${INDEXLINK} index.html) .endif ... Now I'm sorry, but things like this are a kludge to work around a bad initial design. If you're going to install something as "index.html" then it should be called "index.sgml" in the repo. That's how all the other .sgml files in the repository work. I'm not knocking the efforts of the people who originally created the site -- it's easy to make the wrong decision about things like this when you first create a site, and CVS does tend to carve these mistakes in to stone. I've made similar decisions in my web design career, and lived to regret them. I'd rather they went perpetuated any further than is absolutely necessary on this project. As far as I can see, there are two things to be careful about this change. One is that for a short time there will be a foo.sgml and an index.sgml with the same content. If someone commits to foo.sgml before I've updated the Makefile and "cvs remove"d it then they'll be out of sync. I can either freeze the tree immediately after the repo copy, do the work, and then unfreeze it (nice and simple, but it locks everyone else out) or just propogate any commits to each index file over, and then commit and remove in the same action (more work for me, less work for everybody else). The other is that doubtless there are links out there to /docproj/docproj.html. I suggest we deal with these by: 1. For one month, put in a simple redirect in httpd.conf 2. For one month, put in a redirect, with a warning message displayed first. Then, kill the redirect, and watch the error log to see if there are still lots of links. If there are, go back to step 1, but extend the waiting period another month (or two). N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 24 1:59:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F6B37B579 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 01:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA49617; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:59:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:59:04 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Gregory Sutter Cc: Sean Kelly , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: $DIR/$DIR.sgml -> $DIR/index.sgml Message-ID: <20000324105904.D48913@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <20000321113058.B26424@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <016d01bf935f$820b7b70$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> <20000321151327.C27767@azazel.zer0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000321151327.C27767@azazel.zer0.org>; from gsutter@zer0.org on Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:13:27PM -0800 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [20000322 00:40], Gregory Sutter (gsutter@zer0.org) wrote: >On 2000-03-21 10:01 -0800, Sean Kelly wrote: >> > 1. From now on, we always use $DIR/index.sgml >> >> Hear, hear! (Or is that, here, here?) > >You've got it right the first time. Searching for a distionary >entry didn't yield any exact results, but one entry noted that >it was an idiomatic expression intended to convey agreement. [history lesson] IIRC it was due in the middle ages when herauts called `hear, hear' on the townsquare to alert the inhabitants of the new rules/news/etc. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl Man is the measure of all things... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 24 6:58:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bru5-rc-mx1.uunet.be (bru5-rc-mx1.uunet.be [194.7.179.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6787F37B5D3 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vincent.blondel@vt4.net) Received: (qmail 26710 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2000 14:58:24 -0000 Received: from uu212-190-3-159.unknown.uunet.be (HELO pws) (212.190.3.159) by bru5-rc-mx1.uunet.be with SMTP; 24 Mar 2000 14:58:24 -0000 Message-ID: <000801bf95a1$5c630610$9f03bed4@pws> From: "vincent blondel" To: Subject: Installation of FreeBsd 3.4 from a DOS partition ... Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:58:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF95A9.BCFBE660" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF95A9.BCFBE660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I want to try FreeBsd 3.4. I got the "fdimage.exe" to prepare my two = floppies. Now I have this, I will download the files on a DOS partition = I need to start a minimal installation. I found the complete release 3.4 on the following reference = "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/.0/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-3.4-release". I = saw when I started the floppies the installation proposed me different = types of installation. 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    I want to try FreeBsd 3.4. I got the "fdimage.exe" = to prepare=20 my two floppies. Now I have this, I will download the files on a DOS = partition I=20 need to start a minimal installation.
    I found the complete release 3.4 on the following = reference=20 "ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/.0/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-3.4-release".=20 I saw when I started the floppies the installation proposed me different = types=20 of installation.
     
    My question is how can I konw which files I have to = download=20 to launch my minimal installation.
     
    Thank You ...
    ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF95A9.BCFBE660-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 24 16:53:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.x-treme.gr (mail2.x-treme.gr [212.120.196.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4941437B72B for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:53:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (pat6.x-treme.gr [212.120.197.198]) by mail2.x-treme.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3/IPNG-ADV-ANTISPAM-0.1) with SMTP id CAA23937 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 02:53:20 +0200 Received: (qmail 7866 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Mar 2000 12:53:35 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:53:35 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jacky Chan Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Would you allow me to Contribute a FreeBSD document. Message-ID: <20000324145335.C7289@hades.hell.gr> Reply-To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr References: <20000324082248.8324.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000324082248.8324.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net>; from jacky_linux@altavista.com on Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 12:22:48AM -0800 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 62 45 D1 C9 26 F9 95 06 D6 21 2A C8 8C 16 C0 8E Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 12:22:48AM -0800, Jacky Chan wrote: > > I'm sending this mail to you because I want to tell you that I'd like > to Contribute a FreeBSD Document and it will be in My Web page. The > reason that make me to do it because I really love FreeBSD but it's > not as popular as Linux. Secondly, I hope you can give me chance. Hard to say anything, without actually seeing the document itself, or at least a URL pointing to it. - Giorgos Keramidas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 24 17:20: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40A437B796 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA94410; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from rat-thing.netizen.com.au (europa-as61.labyrinth.net.au [202.182.81.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F44237BE7D for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benno@rat-thing.netizen.com.au) Received: (from benno@localhost) by rat-thing.netizen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00715; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:11:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from benno) Message-Id: <200003250111.MAA00715@rat-thing.netizen.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:11:07 +1100 (EST) From: benno@netizen.com.au Reply-To: benno@netizen.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17590: [patch] typo in queue.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17590 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] typo in queue.3 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 24 17:20:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Benno Rice >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Netizen Pty Ltd >Environment: FreeBSD rat-thing.netizen.com.au 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #11: Wed Mar 15 14:04:47 EST 2000 benno@rat-thing.netizen.com.au:/usr/src/sys/compile/RATTHING i386 >Description: TAILQ_REMOVE_HEAD used instead of STAILQ_REMOVE_HEAD in the STAILQ example. >How-To-Repeat: man 3 queue >Fix: --- /usr/src/share/man/man3/queue.3 Mon Dec 20 06:12:14 1999 +++ queue.3 Fri Mar 24 22:26:23 2000 @@ -564,7 +564,7 @@ /* TailQ Deletion. */ while (!STAILQ_EMPTY(&head)) { n1 = STAILQ_HEAD(&head); - TAILQ_REMOVE_HEAD(&head, entries); + STAILQ_REMOVE_HEAD(&head, entries); free(n1); } /* Faster TailQ Deletion. */ >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 25 0:41:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from genocide.intouch.co.za (geeks.web.za [196.14.181.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8677C37B67A for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:41:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbotha@itouch.co.za) Received: from fbotha by genocide.intouch.co.za with local (Exim 2.11 #1) id 12Ym8T-0008EM-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 10:41:33 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 10:41:33 +0200 From: Francois Botha To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Typo in FreeBSD Handbook Message-ID: <20000325104133.A31633@itouch.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, while rtfm'ing I found a small typo at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/boot-init.html Beginning with "Onqe the kernel has finished booting, it passes control to the usqr process" Maybe once? Regards, FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 25 6:35:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E83237B78C for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 06:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12Yrem-000Mc6-00; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:35:16 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:35:16 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Francois Botha Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Typo in FreeBSD Handbook Message-ID: <20000325163516.A86576@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000325104133.A31633@itouch.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000325104133.A31633@itouch.co.za> Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat 2000-03-25 (10:41), Francois Botha wrote: > Hi, while rtfm'ing I found a small typo at: > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/boot-init.html > > Beginning with > "Onqe the kernel has finished booting, it passes control to the usqr > process" > > Maybe once? Indeed. Fixed. Thanks Francois *grin* Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 25 7:30: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E5F37B7BB for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA12988; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909EF37B525 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA11880; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200003251526.HAA11880@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:26:31 -0800 (PST) From: dozprompt@onsea.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/17598: installworld over NFS documentation no longer accurate Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17598 >Category: docs >Synopsis: installworld over NFS documentation no longer accurate >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 25 07:30:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Cliff Rowley >Release: 4.0 >Organization: 4Site Media >Environment: FreeBSD guru.onsea.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Fri Mar 17 23:11:50 GMT 2000 dozprompt@guru.onsea.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GURU i386 >Description: Just a small thing, the documentation provided on http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/makeworld.html#AEN16201 on using a master machine to upgrade others over NFS is no longer correct. It states that / and /usr on the target system must be mounted on the master, but it appears that the install process also now needs to install to /var, therefore the documentation should refelect this. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 25 11:50: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E61D37B893 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA69487; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from news.orsk.ru (news.orsk.ru [193.233.163.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B2037B851 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dm@dmhome.orsk.ru) Received: from bbs.orsk.ru (bbs.orsk.ru [193.233.163.8]) by news.orsk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08219 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:43:10 +0500 (YEKT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bbs.orsk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id AAA25331 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:43:09 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from dm@dmhome.orsk.ru) Received: (from dm@localhost) by dmhome.orsk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02459; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:06:43 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from dm) Message-Id: <200003251906.AAA02459@dmhome.orsk.ru> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:06:43 +0500 (YEKT) From: Denis Mittsev Reply-To: dm@dmhome.orsk.ru To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17600: Error in description /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17600 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Error in description /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 25 11:50:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Denis Mittsev >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: From /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile, rev 1.3 : --- # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # FreeBSD-current source tree. --- >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 25 18:49:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.gaos.net (ns.gaos.net [210.226.166.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6F237B81B; 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