From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 1 15:41:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from MailAndNews.com (MailAndNews.com [199.29.68.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3D014C88 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:41:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shiver@mailandnews.com) Received: from NELSON [198.79.79.5] (shiver@mailandnews.com); Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:35:29 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: MailAndNews.com; Sat, 1 Jan 00 18:35:29 -0500 Message-ID: <000801bf54b1$46c3b9c0$054f4fc6@NELSON> From: "Nelson Tsai" To: Subject: Linksys 10/100+56Kmodem PCMCIA card in DELL Inspiron7K Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:38:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF547E.FAD615D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF547E.FAD615D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi: I am trying to install freeBSD 3.3 +PAO3 in my laptop but really feel frustrated. I have no idea how to make my Linksys PCMCIA=20 card working on it. The Linksys10/100+56KModem card can be detected when BSD=20 is booting and the card active light was always on and I could ping=20 the local only. Anyone had experiences with this card? nelson=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF547E.FAD615D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi:
I am trying to install freeBSD 3.3 +PAO3 in my = laptop but=20 really
feel frustrated. I have no idea how to = make my=20 Linksys PCMCIA
card working on it.
 
The Linksys10/100+56KModem card can be detected = when BSD=20
is booting and the card active light was = always on=20 and I could ping
the local only. Anyone had=20 experiences with this card?
 
nelson 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF547E.FAD615D0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 6:55:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mickey.atarde.com.br (mickey.atarde.com.br [200.223.87.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DE9114ECE for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 06:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from listas@atarde.com.br) Received: (qmail 63841 invoked by uid 65534); 3 Jan 2000 15:01:36 -0000 Date: 3 Jan 2000 15:01:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20000103150136.63839.qmail@mickey.atarde.com.br> From: listas@atarde.com.br To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: listas@atarde.com.br MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.9 X-Originating-IP: 200.223.87.30 Subject: Migrando Sendmail para Qmail Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pessoal, Estou migrando um servidor de e-mail Sendmail 8.9.3 para um Qmail 1.0.3... Entretanto nao sei como fazer para migrar as contas dos usuarios do passwd para o Qmail(estou usando o formato de conta Maildir). Alguem ja passou por isso ou tem alguma informacao que possa me ajudar??? Agradeco desde ja, Daniel Carlos A Tarde On-Line ----------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 9:23:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cyberfrg.access.one.net (cyberfrg.access.one.net [216.23.8.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44A81151C5 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:23:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from x11@cyberfrg.access.one.net) Received: by cyberfrg.access.one.net via sendmail with stdio id for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:31:31 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built 2000-Jan-2) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:31:31 -0500 From: Mark Shirley To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrando Sendmail para Qmail Message-ID: <20000103123131.D12738@cyberfrg.access.one.net> References: <20000103150136.63839.qmail@mickey.atarde.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000103150136.63839.qmail@mickey.atarde.com.br>; from listas@atarde.com.br on Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 03:01:36PM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i thought this list was english only. heh ok, well i attempted to translate this from just looking at it. it looks like spanish but i'm not sure. i went to altavista and translated it and came up with some interesting translations. (here's my version) "blah blah migrating a mail server from sendmail 8.9.3 to qmail 1.0.3 hehe blah blah etc.. blah blah.. password for qmail (something about a maildir) blah etc.. blah blah" (this is portuguese to english translation) I am migrando a server of email Sendmail 8.9.3 for a Qmail 1,0,3... However nao I know as to make to migrar the accounts of the usuarios of passwd for the Qmail(estou using the format of Maildir account). Alguem ja passed therefore or has some informacao that it can help me? (and this is spanish translation. looks like i get a better result with portuguese :) Estou migrating um server of email Sendmail 8,9,3 for um Qmail 1.0.3... Meanwhile nao sei like fazer to migrate ace contas two users do passwd for or Qmail(estou using or format of conta Maildir). Alguem ja passou by isso ou tem alguma informacao that possa to ajudar to me? *sorry guys. i was bored* On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 03:01:36PM -0000, listas@atarde.com.br wrote: > Pessoal, > > Estou migrando um servidor de e-mail Sendmail > 8.9.3 para um Qmail 1.0.3... Entretanto nao sei como > fazer para migrar as contas dos usuarios do passwd para > o Qmail(estou usando o formato de conta Maildir). > Alguem ja passou por isso ou tem alguma informacao que > possa me ajudar??? > > Agradeco desde ja, > Daniel Carlos > A Tarde On-Line > > ----------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 10:57:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from csimo02.mx.cs.com (csimo02.mx.cs.com [205.188.156.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E51414C93 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Rloteck007@cs.com) Received: from Rloteck007@cs.com by csimo02.mx.cs.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id n.0.d1bc3505 (3877) for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:57:26 -0500 (EST) From: Rloteck007@cs.com Message-ID: <0.d1bc3505.25a24b16@cs.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:57:26 EST Subject: i need help To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 67 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello i am a newbie to freebsd and i am haveing problems loading bsd. The computer keeps telling me that it can not detect the hardrive for some resone or other.... can you help or refer me to some who can....any help will be greatly aprechiated sincelry rlo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 11: 5:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7005151FE for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:04:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA96601; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:04:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:04:22 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200001031904.LAA96601@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Rloteck007@cs.com Subject: Re: i need help In-Reply-To: <0.d1bc3505.25a24b16@cs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: Rloteck007@cs.com >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:57:26 EST >Hello i am a newbie to freebsd and i am haveing problems loading bsd. The >computer keeps telling me that it can not detect the hardrive for some resone >or other.... >can you help or refer me to some who can....any help will be greatly >aprechiated With the given information, it's difficult to tell, but I'd guess that the classic problem of ahving only "slave" (no "master") device on an IDE controller may well be to blame. The archives of freebsd-questions (and possibly freebsd-hardware) will have more details on that issue, and should serve as examples of what information to post to -questions in the event that this doesn't happen to be the problem in question. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 11:11:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C07414C40 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:11:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sbcorey@azstarnet.com) Received: from azstarnet.com (dialup06ip113.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.32.241]) by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.9.3+blt.Beta0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28258; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:11:32 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ Message-ID: <3870F497.FDEB23B6@azstarnet.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 12:12:23 -0700 From: Scott Corey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rloteck007@cs.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i need help References: <0.d1bc3505.25a24b16@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rloteck007@cs.com wrote: > > Hello i am a newbie to freebsd and i am haveing problems loading bsd. The > computer keeps telling me that it can not detect the hardrive for some resone > or other.... > can you help or refer me to some who can....any help will be greatly > aprechiated > > sincelry rlo > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Before you do the step below please read :http://www.lemis.com/questions.html to understand posting a question (that will get an answer) to freebsd questions list. You need to post this to freebsd-questions list. Just follow the directions at:http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 11:17:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bfm.org (mail.bfm.org [216.127.218.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EEF153B3 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adam@whizkidtech.net) Received: from WhizKid (r45.bfm.org [216.127.220.141]) by mail.bfm.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5 release 215 ID# 0-52399U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id org; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:17:16 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000103131720.00a55be0@mail85.pair.com> X-Sender: whizkid@mail85.pair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:17:20 -0600 To: Mark Shirley , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: Migrando Sendmail para Qmail In-Reply-To: <20000103123131.D12738@cyberfrg.access.one.net> References: <20000103150136.63839.qmail@mickey.atarde.com.br> <20000103150136.63839.qmail@mickey.atarde.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:31 03-01-2000 -0500, Mark Shirley wrote: >(and this is spanish translation. looks like i get a better result with portuguese :) The reason you get better results with Portuguese is because the original *is* in Portuguese. :-) That's the official language of Brazil, which is where the message came from. As for the list being English only, the author probably did not even realize he was posting to a list. My guess is he was reading a Portuguese version of the FreeBSD web site, and it gave him an email address to post newbie questions to. So he did. Cheers, Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 11:32:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bfm.org (mail.bfm.org [216.127.218.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C1C14C93 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adam@whizkidtech.net) Received: from WhizKid (r45.bfm.org [216.127.220.141]) by mail.bfm.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5 release 215 ID# 0-52399U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id org; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:33:01 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000103133334.009a0b00@mail85.pair.com> X-Sender: whizkid@mail85.pair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:33:34 -0600 To: Rloteck007@cs.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: i need help In-Reply-To: <0.d1bc3505.25a24b16@cs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 13:57 03-01-2000 EST, Rloteck007@cs.com wrote: >Hello i am a newbie to freebsd and i am haveing problems loading bsd. The >computer keeps telling me that it can not detect the hardrive for some resone >or other.... The "some reason or other" is the essential piece of information you left out of your question. No one can help you without it... Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 17:57:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (ha1.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CE815203 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:57:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kavit@home.com) Received: from cr228899a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com ([24.112.176.97]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with SMTP id <20000104015459.MOE7552.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@cr228899a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com> for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:54:59 -0800 Message-ID: <001301bf566f$f710dfa0$61b07018@wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Kavi Tanna" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:55:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF562C.E8D535A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF562C.E8D535A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF562C.E8D535A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
unsubscribe
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF562C.E8D535A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 3 18:51:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cyberfrg.access.one.net (cyberfrg.access.one.net [216.23.8.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E54E14BC5 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 18:51:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from x11@cyberfrg.access.one.net) Received: by cyberfrg.access.one.net via sendmail with stdio id for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:59:57 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built 2000-Jan-2) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:59:57 -0500 From: Mark Shirley To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrando Sendmail para Qmail Message-ID: <20000103215957.G12738@cyberfrg.access.one.net> References: <20000103150136.63839.qmail@mickey.atarde.com.br> <20000103150136.63839.qmail@mickey.atarde.com.br> <20000103123131.D12738@cyberfrg.access.one.net> <3.0.6.32.20000103131720.00a55be0@mail85.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000103131720.00a55be0@mail85.pair.com>; from adam@whizkidtech.net on Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 01:17:20PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well, it seemed similar to spanish from my highschool days so thats what i figured it was. i didn't know that portuguese was similar to spanish. but know i know, thanks :) btw. the whole translation situation was sortof a joke, i was just bored. hehe On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 01:17:20PM -0600, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > At 12:31 03-01-2000 -0500, Mark Shirley wrote: > >(and this is spanish translation. looks like i get a better result with > portuguese :) > > The reason you get better results with Portuguese is because the original > *is* in Portuguese. :-) That's the official language of Brazil, which is > where the message came from. > > As for the list being English only, the author probably did not even > realize he was posting to a list. My guess is he was reading a Portuguese > version of the FreeBSD web site, and it gave him an email address to post > newbie questions to. So he did. > > Cheers, > Adam > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 4 17:41:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2316015044 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:41:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.105.241] (helo=propro) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 125fRp-0006mV-00 for newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 01:41:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:41:13 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Schneiders To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: webserver on 4MB RAM (too long) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This list has 'making mistakes, boasting' in its charter. This is exactly what follows. As I like to play around with old hardware and could not find any useful purpose for a Toshiba laptop (486 SX 33) with only 4MB RAM (and not even 4096 but 39XX according to the memory test) and a dead battery, and as additional RAM and a new battery was too expensive, I decided to install FreeBSD (4.0 current) on it and see whether it would work as a webserver. It does :-) Recent versions of FreeBSD cannot be installed with less than 5MB, so I had to take the hard disk out and install on a desktop. Before I opened the laptop, tricky as that is, I wanted to find out whether it worked on the desktop. Installing (with 8 MB) went fine over nfs, but the GENERIC kernel would not boot after I reduced the RAM in the desktop to 4MB. Compiling a kernel and getting rid of unnecessary options (nfs = 250KB!) made it run. (I now have a kernel of 1.31MB). I thought it wise to find out, whether things stayed ok for a longer period. So I let the desktop (a DX 66) run rc5des (www.distributed.net) on 4MB for some time. It did great and had the same speed as other 486/66 machines I had rc5 running on. So I went to bed. Next morning the harddisks (there were two of approx. 100MB each) were spinning and the desktop seemed frozen. It could be pinged, change consoles by pressing alt-Fx, but nothing else. After some hours I turned it off and on. Again it was running rc5des ok. This happened a few times. Until one night I was up longer and found out what made the machine stop responding: the daily cron jobs at 2:00 AM. I asked some advise on the questions list (thanks!) and turned these off. I also shutdown sendmail and disabled it in /etc/rc.conf. Now the freezes did not occur any longer. (Sendmail is now on again.) Next step: the webserver. This I also tried on the desktop. I was under the impression that apache was too big, so I went for boa, which is small and doesn't fork (except in cgi). Boa is in the ports. I was lazy and ftp-ed it from another box I have it on. It worked fine. I tested it by turning the thing into a webcam server. It got a new picture every 30 seconds from a camera (attached to a Win98 PC) by ftp. Four other boxes had the webcampage on simultaneously. The pic (approx 12KB) refreshed automatically on all four, also every 30 seconds. There were no problems whatsoever, not even when I ran rc5des on the 4MB-box as well. So I opened the laptop, got the harddisk out, installed FreeBSD on it with 8MB RAM in the desktop, compiled a kernel for the laptop (with pccard) and moved it back in the laptop. It didn't work :-( The Toshiba would not see the disk anymore. I am not sure why, but running the setup for the laptop from a dos-floppy and setting harddisk to "???" (I had two options: "???" or "not installed"...) it worked, but the laptop could not find FreeBSD. So I decided to put the bootmanager on it. This has helped me in the past. Might be a simple matter of active partitions. But anyway. I did that. Then it booted ok. But ... it dropped into single user mode. Problems related to new/old ide-driver. (See current list few weeks ago: 50 messages about it at least.) Anyway, I tried this and that, put the harddisk back in the desktop, in which it did work. In the end, and after reading a bit in the current list, I decided to try the old ide-driver. This did it. I was happy. I've now been looking at my webcam for two days. It runs just fine on the laptop. Now all I have to do is hide the laptop somewhere at work and secretly attach it to the net (there is a PCMCIA-ethernet card in it), so my boss won't notice it... Maybe I can turn it into a mailserver as well. (Seems you can have one of your own with a real domain through free webhosting with dns-options at webprovider.com. Maybe I should register lowmemory.net. It is still available.) What you cannot reasonably do on this 4MB-laptop: compile ports. I tried lynx, it was still busy with bzip2 (a dependancy) after 5 hours. So I installed the package. Compiling a kernel I haven't even tried. On the desktop with 8MB RAM and a faster CPU it took two hours. I had to try out many config's to see what really counted (nfs!). So you need a 'real' box for that. Also better avoid using nmap on a server like mine. It freezes it for more than five minutes. But it did recover! Finally, a question, even though I shouldn't here: what is the best mail client to run on low memory? Not pine, I suppose. Mutt? -- Marc Schneiders marc@venster.nl marc@oldserver.demon.nl propro 1:40am up 5 days, 3:29, load average: 2.01 2.01 2.00 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 6 13:37:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dsp.uiowa.edu (mail.dsp.uiowa.edu [128.255.242.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA65D14F8E for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:37:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris-manjoine@uiowa.edu) Received: from dsp45 (dsp62.dsp.uiowa.edu [128.255.242.128]) by mail.dsp.uiowa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA67668 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:37:46 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000106150136.00ab4f00@mail.vpr.uiowa.edu> X-Sender: manjoine@mail.vpr.uiowa.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:32:04 -0600 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Manjoine Subject: Primary DNS setup problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_285690130==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_285690130==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Ok I have set up DNS on a redhat box before and I thought this would be straight forward I have added the configurations in my named.conf file to goto my zone but nothing happens. I can't get it to work at all named.conf options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/var/run/named.pid"; }; zone "." { type hint; file "/etc/namedb/db.cache"; }; zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts"; }; I want to get the caching name server setup first to avoid any simple errors but this will not even work. the db.cache is the same as everyone else has and the 0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts @ IN SOA ns.linux.bogus. hostmaster.linux.bogus. ( 1 ; Serial 8H ; Refresh 2H ; Retry 1W ; Expire 1D) ; Minimum TTL NS ns.linux.bogus. 1 PTR localhost. rc.conf file stuff NOTE THAT I AM USING A DHCP CLIENT THAT LINKS TO A STATIC IP # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # network_interfaces="ep0 lo0" ifconfig_ep0="DHCP" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # named_enable="YES" Other info available at request~ --=====================_285690130==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Ok I have set up DNS on a redhat box before and I thought this would be straight forward I have added the configurations in my named.conf file to goto my zone but nothing happens. I can't get it to work at all


named.conf

options {
        directory "/etc/namedb";
        pid-file "/var/run/named.pid";
        };

zone "." {
        type hint;
        file "/etc/namedb/db.cache";
        };

zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
        type master;
        file "/etc/namedb/0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts";
        };
              


I want to get the caching name server setup first to avoid any simple errors but this will not even work.
the db.cache is the same as everyone else has and the 0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts

@               IN      SOA     ns.linux.bogus. hostmaster.linux.bogus. (
                                1       ; Serial
                                8H      ; Refresh
                                2H      ; Retry
                                1W      ; Expire
                                1D)     ; Minimum TTL
                        NS      ns.linux.bogus.
1                       PTR     localhost.



rc.conf file stuff NOTE THAT I AM USING A DHCP CLIENT THAT LINKS TO A STATIC IP

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
network_interfaces="ep0 lo0"
ifconfig_ep0="DHCP"
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
named_enable="YES"

Other info available at request~                      --=====================_285690130==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 6 16:30:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tomts1-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts1.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FB51590A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:30:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martyg@sympatico.ca) Received: from martingignac ([206.172.243.51]) by tomts1-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.07 201-229-116-107) with SMTP id <20000107002731.LXGH24271.tomts1-srv.bellnexxia.net@martingignac>; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:27:31 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bf58a5$fbefad20$33f3acce@martingignac> From: "Martin Gignac" To: "Chris Manjoine" , References: <4.2.2.20000106150136.00ab4f00@mail.vpr.uiowa.edu> Subject: Re: Primary DNS setup problems Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:26:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF587B.EF48A380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF587B.EF48A380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just set up a secondary BIND 8.1.2 server (on a FreeBSD machine) at = the company I work for that's a slave to a primary BIND 4.9.5 running on = Windows NT 4.0. It took all of five minutes to set up and get working, all without a = hitch. I used the PROTO.localhost.rev shell script to create the = localhost.rev file. After adding the zones for which it would slave, I = started the thing, and it simply worked. My named.conf file is basically the stock one that comes with FreeBSD, = with my zones added in. You gotta make sure you either don't have a /etc/resolv.conf file, or = that /etc/resolv.conf looks kinda like this: domain nameserver 0.0.0.0 nameserver The /etc/resolv.conf isn't necessary on your FreeBSD machine running the = BIND server, as it will talk to named directly, but if you have one and = the first nameserver is 0.0.0.0, you'll basically have the same result. Can you expand on what you mean by 'doesn't work at all'? Does the = command 'tail /var/log/messages' show any messages about named running = starting up correctly (or not)? Can you use nslookup on your server? Let me know, -Martin ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Manjoine=20 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Primary DNS setup problems Ok I have set up DNS on a redhat box before and I thought this would = be straight forward I have added the configurations in my named.conf = file to goto my zone but nothing happens. I can't get it to work at all=20 named.conf options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/var/run/named.pid"; }; zone "." { type hint; file "/etc/namedb/db.cache"; }; zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts"; }; =20 I want to get the caching name server setup first to avoid any simple = errors but this will not even work. the db.cache is the same as everyone else has and the = 0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts @ IN SOA ns.linux.bogus. = hostmaster.linux.bogus. ( 1 ; Serial 8H ; Refresh 2H ; Retry 1W ; Expire 1D) ; Minimum TTL NS ns.linux.bogus. 1 PTR localhost. rc.conf file stuff NOTE THAT I AM USING A DHCP CLIENT THAT LINKS TO A = STATIC IP # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # network_interfaces=3D"ep0 lo0" ifconfig_ep0=3D"DHCP" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # named_enable=3D"YES" Other info available at request~ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF587B.EF48A380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just set up a secondary BIND 8.1.2 server (on = a FreeBSD=20 machine) at the company I work for that's a slave to a primary BIND = 4.9.5=20 running on Windows NT 4.0.
 
It took all of five minutes to set up and get = working, all=20 without a hitch. I used the PROTO.localhost.rev shell script to create = the=20 localhost.rev file. After adding the zones for which it would slave, I = started=20 the thing, and it simply worked.
 
My named.conf file is basically the stock one that = comes with=20 FreeBSD, with my zones added in.
 
You gotta make sure you either don't have a = /etc/resolv.conf=20 file, or that /etc/resolv.conf looks kinda like this:
 
domain        = <INSERT DOMAIN=20 NAME HERE>
nameserver    0.0.0.0
nameserver    <INSERT OTHER KNOWN = SERVERS=20 YOU ARE
nameserver    AUTHORIZED TO=20 USE>
 
The /etc/resolv.conf isn't necessary on your FreeBSD = machine=20 running the BIND server, as it will talk to named directly, but if you = have one=20 and the first nameserver is 0.0.0.0, you'll basically have the same=20 result.
 
Can you expand on what you mean by 'doesn't work at = all'? Does=20 the command 'tail /var/log/messages' show any messages about named = running=20 starting up correctly (or not)? Can you use nslookup on your=20 server?
 
Let me know,
 
-Martin
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Chris=20 Manjoine
To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG =
Sent: Thursday, January 06, = 2000 4:32=20 PM
Subject: Primary DNS setup = problems

Ok I have set up DNS on a redhat box before and I = thought this=20 would be straight forward I have added the configurations in my = named.conf=20 file to goto my zone but nothing happens. I can't get it to work at = all=20


named.conf

options=20 {
        directory=20 "/etc/namedb";
        pid-file=20 "/var/run/named.pid";
       =20 };

zone "." {
        = type=20 hint;
        file=20 "/etc/namedb/db.cache";
       =20 };

zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA"=20 {
        type=20 master;
        file=20 = "/etc/namedb/0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts";
    &nbs= p;  =20 = };
           &= nbsp;  =20


I want to get the caching name server setup first to avoid = any=20 simple errors but this will not even work.
the db.cache is the same = as=20 everyone else has and the 0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts

@          &nb= sp;   =20 IN      SOA     = ns.linux.bogus.=20 hostmaster.linux.bogus.=20 = (
           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;       =20 1       ;=20 = Serial
          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;        =20 8H      ;=20 = Refresh
          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;        =20 2H      ;=20 = Retry
          &nbs= p;            = ;        =20 1W      ;=20 = Expire
          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;        =20 1D)     ; Minimum=20 = TTL
           =              = NS     =20 = ns.linux.bogus.
1         = ;            =  =20 PTR     localhost.



rc.conf = file=20 stuff NOTE THAT I AM USING A DHCP CLIENT THAT LINKS TO A STATIC = IP

# --=20 sysinstall generated deltas -- #
network_interfaces=3D"ep0=20 lo0"
ifconfig_ep0=3D"DHCP"
# -- sysinstall generated deltas --=20 #
named_enable=3D"YES"

Other info available at=20 = request~           = ;          =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF587B.EF48A380-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 6 19: 2:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FEF415790 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:02:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 15342 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2000 21:58:41 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user59883@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 6 Jan 2000 21:58:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Chris Manjoine Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Primary DNS setup problems In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000106150136.00ab4f00@mail.vpr.uiowa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Change linux.bogus to localhost, see if that resolves the problem. Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Chris Manjoine wrote: > Ok I have set up DNS on a redhat box before and I thought this would be > straight forward I have added the configurations in my named.conf file to > goto my zone but nothing happens. I can't get it to work at all > > > named.conf > > options { > directory "/etc/namedb"; > pid-file "/var/run/named.pid"; > }; > > zone "." { > type hint; > file "/etc/namedb/db.cache"; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts"; > }; > > > > I want to get the caching name server setup first to avoid any simple > errors but this will not even work. > the db.cache is the same as everyone else has and the > 0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts > > @ IN SOA ns.linux.bogus. hostmaster.linux.bogus. ( > 1 ; Serial > 8H ; Refresh > 2H ; Retry > 1W ; Expire > 1D) ; Minimum TTL > NS ns.linux.bogus. > 1 PTR localhost. > > > > rc.conf file stuff NOTE THAT I AM USING A DHCP CLIENT THAT LINKS TO A STATIC IP > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > network_interfaces="ep0 lo0" > ifconfig_ep0="DHCP" > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > named_enable="YES" > > Other info available at request~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 6 19: 2:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B0ED157C1 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 15526 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2000 21:59:25 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user80932@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 6 Jan 2000 21:59:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:55:44 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Martin Gignac Cc: Chris Manjoine , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Primary DNS setup problems In-Reply-To: <000d01bf58a5$fbefad20$33f3acce@martingignac> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also check your system logs for any messages from BIND/named. Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Martin Gignac wrote: > I just set up a secondary BIND 8.1.2 server (on a FreeBSD machine) at the company I work for that's a slave to a primary BIND 4.9.5 running on Windows NT 4.0. > > It took all of five minutes to set up and get working, all without a hitch. I used the PROTO.localhost.rev shell script to create the localhost.rev file. After adding the zones for which it would slave, I started the thing, and it simply worked. > > My named.conf file is basically the stock one that comes with FreeBSD, with my zones added in. > > You gotta make sure you either don't have a /etc/resolv.conf file, or that /etc/resolv.conf looks kinda like this: > > domain > nameserver 0.0.0.0 > nameserver nameserver AUTHORIZED TO USE> > > The /etc/resolv.conf isn't necessary on your FreeBSD machine running the BIND server, as it will talk to named directly, but if you have one and the first nameserver is 0.0.0.0, you'll basically have the same result. > > Can you expand on what you mean by 'doesn't work at all'? Does the command 'tail /var/log/messages' show any messages about named running starting up correctly (or not)? Can you use nslookup on your server? > > Let me know, > > -Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Manjoine > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 4:32 PM > Subject: Primary DNS setup problems > > > Ok I have set up DNS on a redhat box before and I thought this would be straight forward I have added the configurations in my named.conf file to goto my zone but nothing happens. I can't get it to work at all > > > named.conf > > options { > directory "/etc/namedb"; > pid-file "/var/run/named.pid"; > }; > > zone "." { > type hint; > file "/etc/namedb/db.cache"; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts"; > }; > > > > I want to get the caching name server setup first to avoid any simple errors but this will not even work. > the db.cache is the same as everyone else has and the 0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA.hosts > > @ IN SOA ns.linux.bogus. hostmaster.linux.bogus. ( > 1 ; Serial > 8H ; Refresh > 2H ; Retry > 1W ; Expire > 1D) ; Minimum TTL > NS ns.linux.bogus. > 1 PTR localhost. > > > > rc.conf file stuff NOTE THAT I AM USING A DHCP CLIENT THAT LINKS TO A STATIC IP > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > network_interfaces="ep0 lo0" > ifconfig_ep0="DHCP" > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > named_enable="YES" > > Other info available at request~ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 0:16:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from unknown-230-100.pilot.net (unknown-230-100.pilot.net [206.98.230.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FF515087 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:16:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sivaramn@wipsys.ge.com) Received: from unknown-239-164.pilot.net (unknown-239-164.pilot.net [206.189.239.164]) by unknown-230-100.pilot.net with ESMTP id DAA20684 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemail.wipsys.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-239-164.pilot.net with ESMTP id DAA26384 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from Sivaram ([192.168.47.139]) by gemail.wipsys.ge.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA3A8C for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:51:22 +0530 Message-ID: <00bb01bf58ea$72223820$8b2fa8c0@wipsys.ge.com> Reply-To: "Sivaram Neelakantan" From: "SIVARAM N" To: Subject: other mailing lists Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:07:34 +0530 Organization: wipro MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Are there any specific mailing lists for shell & awk scripts? If so , I'd like to get on to them. Regards, Sivaram To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 2:32:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from is2.nesbittburns.com (torfw1.nesbittburns.com [192.139.71.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C8214C0F for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Rodney.Lewis@nesbittburns.com) Received: (from qmaild@localhost) by is2.nesbittburns.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id FAA17534 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 05:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17533 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2000 10:32:10 -0000 Received: from torfw1.nesbittburns.com (HELO nesbittburns.ca) (192.139.71.69) by is2.nesbittburns.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2000 10:32:10 -0000 Received: from nbnotomail2.nesbittburns.ca (nbnotomail2 [165.185.33.11]) by nesbittburns.ca (8.8.8+Sun/mail.byaddr) with ESMTP id FAA01138 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 05:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by nbnotomail2.nesbittburns.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 05:32:10 -0500 Message-ID: <83773E236646D3118EAE00508B12C8FE0B16E4@NBNELOMAIL2> From: "Lewis, Rodney" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 05:31:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 7:16:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx.cti.gr (kronos.cti.gr [150.140.1.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4631814CF1 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:16:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 18622 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2000 15:16:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.hell.gr) (150.140.30.26) by kronos.cti.gr with SMTP; 7 Jan 2000 15:16:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 5831 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jan 2000 14:12:55 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:12:55 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: SIVARAM N Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: other mailing lists Message-ID: <20000107161255.E3624@hades.hell.gr> Reply-To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr References: <00bb01bf58ea$72223820$8b2fa8c0@wipsys.ge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <00bb01bf58ea$72223820$8b2fa8c0@wipsys.ge.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 02:07:34PM +0530, SIVARAM N wrote: > > Are there any specific mailing lists for shell & awk scripts? If so, > I'd like to get on to them. If you have some specific questions to ask, then freebsd-questions might be a nice place to start with. Note however that the questions that are totally unrelated to freebsd, like "my /bin/sh in linux is a symlink to /bin/bash, is that a problem with shell scripts?", are not always easy to reply to, since some freebsd'ers do not have other OSes installed to their systems ;) Ciao. -- Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr > "What we have to learn to do, we learn by doing." [Aristotle] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 9:13:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B58015016 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:13:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 64411 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2000 17:13:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20000107171347.64410.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.52.122.1 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 09:13:47 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.52.122.1] From: "Some Person" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Certification... Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 09:13:47 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just as MS has and RH has Linux certifications, wouldn't having FreeBSD or simply *BSD certifications be beneficial to the advocacy and/or promotion of *BSD? Not to mention, maybe having the money contributing to the development of *BSD. I know to some this may sound dumb, and just maybe to others might sound good. Please don't bother flamming, as it's only a question and I'm just curious on people's reponses to this. Personally, I think it would be a great idea and extremely beneficial to the future development of *BSD. ie, I think FreeBSD should have more promotional offers such as T-Shirts and what not like OpenBSD does. OpenBSD is another one I really like, for security! Regards all... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 9:22:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09DD14F68 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA17221; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:22:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:22:09 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200001071722.JAA17221@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, ntvsunix@hotmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification... In-Reply-To: <20000107171347.64410.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: "Some Person" >Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 09:13:47 PST >Just as MS has and RH has Linux certifications, wouldn't having FreeBSD or >simply *BSD certifications be beneficial to the advocacy and/or promotion of >*BSD? Not to mention, maybe having the money contributing to the development >of *BSD. I know to some this may sound dumb, and just maybe to others might >sound good. Well, there's a professional group of systems administrators (SAGE; it's affiliated with USENIX, which is another organization that it's a good idea to know about). And the notion of "certification for systems administrators" tends to be one of the more contentious issues discussed, both in the sage-members mailing list and at face-to-face meetings. It seems to me that most of the opinions to which I've been exposed on the matter(s) would likely carry over to any notion of "*BSD certification" (whatever that might mean in a given context). So expecting concensus on the matter doesn't seem reasonable to me.... Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 10:44:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f150.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 197DF14F63 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:44:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 61908 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2000 18:44:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20000107184451.61907.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.52.122.1 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:44:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.52.122.1] From: "Some Person" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification... Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:44:51 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks David! Much appreciated! I was expecting some flamming, but glad you informed me of this as I never knew about that. Have a great day! > >Just as MS has and RH has Linux certifications, wouldn't having FreeBSD >or > >simply *BSD certifications be beneficial to the advocacy and/or promotion >of > >*BSD? Not to mention, maybe having the money contributing to the >development > >of *BSD. I know to some this may sound dumb, and just maybe to others >might > >sound good. > >Well, there's a professional group of systems administrators (SAGE; it's >affiliated with USENIX, which is another organization that it's a good >idea to know about). > >And the notion of "certification for systems administrators" tends to be >one of the more contentious issues discussed, both in the sage-members >mailing list and at face-to-face meetings. > >It seems to me that most of the opinions to which I've been exposed on >the matter(s) would likely carry over to any notion of "*BSD >certification" (whatever that might mean in a given context). > >So expecting concensus on the matter doesn't seem reasonable to me.... > >Cheers, >david >-- >David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator >voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 10:53:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFFE15828 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:53:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA17828; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:53:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200001071853.KAA17828@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, ntvsunix@hotmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification... In-Reply-To: <20000107184451.61907.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: "Some Person" >Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:44:51 PST >Thanks David! Much appreciated! I was expecting some flamming, but glad you >informed me of this as I never knew about that. :-) It sometimes happens that folk of a technical bent have opinions. For information on USENIX, http://www.usenix.org/ is a good source. And for SAGE, http://www.usenix.org/sage does the trick. In general, I suspect that more folks who are new to FreeBSD might do well to become (at least) somewhat aware of sysadmin issues. (FreeBSD seems to have a way of encouraging such awareness, one way or another.) >Have a great day! Happy Friday to you, too, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 16: 4:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from zagnut.hotpop.com (zagnut.hotpop.com [204.57.55.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FCB1507A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:04:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kamidesu@hotpop.com) Received: from wingate (unknown [209.198.236.144]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A564E639DC; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 19:51:10 -0500 (EST) From: m To: Mark Shirley Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrando Sendmail para Qmail In-Reply-To: <20000103123131.D12738@cyberfrg.access.one.net> References: <20000103150136.63839.qmail@mickey.atarde.com.br> <20000103123131.D12738@cyberfrg.access.one.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Message-Id: <20000108005110.A564E639DC@zagnut.hotpop.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 19:51:10 -0500 (EST) X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > *sorry guys. i was bored* hehehehe, it is portuguese. > > Estou migrando um servidor de e-mail Sendmail > > 8.9.3 para um Qmail 1.0.3... Entretanto nao sei como > > fazer para migrar as contas dos usuarios do passwd para > > o Qmail(estou usando o formato de conta Maildir). > > Alguem ja passou por isso ou tem alguma informacao que > > possa me ajudar??? I'm migrating an email server from Sendmail 8.9.3 to a Qmail 1.0.3. In the meantime, I don't know how to migrate (change??) the accounts with passwords to Qmail (I'm using the Maildir accounting format). Anybody has done this or have any info that could help me? -- Sorta. Mario, your amiable translator. Special prices for FreeBSD buddies. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 17:30:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88C21597D for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10064 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:30:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:30:09 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200001080130.MAA10064@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 18: 2:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from zagnut.hotpop.com (zagnut.hotpop.com [204.57.55.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0046C15067 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:02:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kamidesu@hotpop.com) Received: from wingate (unknown [209.198.236.114]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 356FA639CB for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 21:48:21 -0500 (EST) From: m To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification... In-Reply-To: <20000107171347.64410.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <20000107171347.64410.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Message-Id: <20000108024821.356FA639CB@zagnut.hotpop.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 21:48:21 -0500 (EST) X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ie, I think FreeBSD should have more promotional offers such as T-Shirts and > what not like OpenBSD does. > OpenBSD is another one I really like, for security! http://www.freebsdmall.com T shirts, dolls, books, stickers ... (-: Regards all... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 20:36:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f90.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C28A152C5 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:36:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 3673 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2000 04:36:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000108043619.3672.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.53.55.150 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 20:36:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.53.55.150] From: "Some Person" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: freebsdmall.com Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 20:36:19 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey peeple. Does www.freebsdmall.com support the FreeBSD commitee in aid'ing the development & groth of FreeBSD? Or is it a company making money off of it only? Not that I don't like their stuff, because I already have tons. Not to mention my custom license plate 'FreeBSD', haha, I know, I know... "Hooked on FreeBSD'x Worked for me!" I don't know if it's just me, but I certainly want to see FreeBSD gain more awareness in the public eye, (ie, the not so nerdy people, & more media coverage) not just Linux... If you know what I mean? :) Hey, btw, anyone see www.coolcase(s).com? They have a duck penguin picture on a case... I would love to see the Daemon logo/picture on one! The side or whatever! :) Wonder if there's a place I can look in the phonebook for people who do that sorta stuff, just not sure what to look under. > > ie, I think FreeBSD should have more promotional offers such as T-Shirts >and > > what not like OpenBSD does. > > OpenBSD is another one I really like, for security! > >http://www.freebsdmall.com > > T shirts, dolls, books, stickers ... (-: > > Regards all... > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 7 20:40:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f3.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74BF214C29 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:40:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 44629 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 2000 04:39:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20000108043947.44628.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.53.55.150 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Jan 2000 20:39:47 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.53.55.150] From: "Some Person" To: ntvsunix@hotmail.com, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsdmall.com - oops, URL typo... Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 20:39:47 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ooops, it's http://www.colorcase.com/ >Hey peeple. > >Does www.freebsdmall.com support the FreeBSD commitee in aid'ing the >development & groth of FreeBSD? Or is it a company making money off of it >only? Not that I don't like their stuff, because I already have tons. Not >to >mention my custom license plate 'FreeBSD', haha, I know, I know... "Hooked >on FreeBSD'x Worked for me!" > >I don't know if it's just me, but I certainly want to see FreeBSD gain more >awareness in the public eye, (ie, the not so nerdy people, & more media >coverage) not just Linux... If you know what I mean? :) > >Hey, btw, anyone see www.coolcase(s).com? They have a duck penguin picture >on a case... I would love to see the Daemon logo/picture on one! The side >or >whatever! :) Wonder if there's a place I can look in the phonebook for >people who do that sorta stuff, just not sure what to look under. > > > >> > ie, I think FreeBSD should have more promotional offers such as >>T-Shirts >>and >> > what not like OpenBSD does. >> > OpenBSD is another one I really like, for security! >> >>http://www.freebsdmall.com >> >> T shirts, dolls, books, stickers ... (-: >> >> Regards all... >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 8 0:41: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from zagnut.hotpop.com (zagnut.hotpop.com [204.57.55.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17440158C7 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 00:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kamidesu@hotpop.com) Received: from wingate (unknown [216.72.93.64]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A214639CF for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 03:40:54 -0500 (EST) From: m To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsdmall.com In-Reply-To: <20000108043619.3672.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <20000108043619.3672.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Message-Id: <20000108084054.6A214639CF@zagnut.hotpop.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 03:40:54 -0500 (EST) X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does www.freebsdmall.com support the FreeBSD commitee in aid'ing the > development & groth of FreeBSD? Or is it a company making money off of it > only? Not that I don't like their stuff, because I already have tons. Not to The money goes to freebsd. AFAIK. > awareness in the public eye, (ie, the not so nerdy people, & more media > coverage) not just Linux... If you know what I mean? :) Linux is more for the desktop, freebsd is for more 'serious' work. AFAIK. Therefore, you find freebsd on places like yahoo!, and linux at home, therefore, from home to work in a lot of cases (UK for example). The queen's site uses linux. Why? The webmaster tried it at home, loved it, tested it, it worked fine, there it is. -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d- s:- a25 C+++ U P L E+ W++ N o+ K w+ !O M V PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5 X+ !R tv++ b++ DI+ D+ G e+ h! r--- y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 8 6:28:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from unknown-230-100.pilot.net (unknown-230-100.pilot.net [206.98.230.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29830158B1 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 06:28:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sivaramn@wipsys.ge.com) Received: from unknown-239-164.pilot.net (unknown-239-164.pilot.net [206.189.239.164]) by unknown-230-100.pilot.net with ESMTP id JAA09263 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemail.wipsys.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-239-164.pilot.net with ESMTP id JAA22037 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Sivaram ([192.168.47.139]) by gemail.wipsys.ge.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA6002 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:32:05 +0530 Message-ID: <00c901bf59e3$36dd8a40$8b2fa8c0@wipsys.ge.com> Reply-To: "Sivaram Neelakantan" From: "SIVARAM N" To: Subject: client side scripting languages Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:48:19 +0530 Organization: wipro MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does HTML variations & XML qualify as client-side scripting languages? Aren't these Doc markup languages ?? And are they any other client-side scripting languages other than Jscript,javascript,VBscript currently supported by the browsers? I really am not sure of the descriptions given for HTML & XML,on the web. Anybody can give a better explanation? Regards, Sivaram To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 8 7:17:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D2615060 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:17:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p162.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.162]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28672 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:17:07 +0100 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA00669 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:18:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:18:06 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification - Sysadmin liability ? In-Reply-To: <200001071722.JAA17221@pau-amma.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > Well, there's a professional group of systems administrators (SAGE;it's > affiliated with USENIX, which is another organization that it's a good > idea to know about). > > And the notion of "certification for systems administrators" tends to be > one of the more contentious issues discussed, both in the sage-members > mailing list and at face-to-face meetings. What should a certification be good for ? I dont think BSD needs promotion, and else ? Sysadmin liability comes to mind. Well, as a law student, not a professional admin, I think all cases are too different, to be judged according to the fact if somebody had a general license to admin or not. But I dont know any cases. Are there any ? Heiko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 8 10:39:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92C915772 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:39:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id TAA02006 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:39:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09412 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:36:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: freebsdmall.com Date: 8 Jan 2000 19:36:36 +0100 Message-ID: <85803k$95r$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <20000108043619.3672.qmail@hotmail.com> <20000108084054.6A214639CF@zagnut.hotpop.com> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org m wrote: > Linux is more for the desktop, freebsd is for more 'serious' work. > AFAIK. Well, if you keep telling yourself this long enough, you may end up believing it. I can't but note that that's the position the commercial Unix vendors took: Microsoft is for the desktop, Unix is for servers. If you look where that attitude took them (you may need to do some archaeology there), you might want to reconsider. Actually, that's what people keep saying about Linux, too. Linux is for servers, MS Windows is for the desktop. Linus Torvalds prominently disagrees, pointing out that you either conquer the desktop or YOU DIE. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 8 19:19:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dccserver.com (lax-29-a-114.lax.dsl.cerfnet.com [206.18.16.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF3F14C26; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:19:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@dccserver.com) Received: from dccserver.att.com [206.18.16.114] by dccserver.com (SMTPD32-5.08 EVAL) id ABF429B01B6; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 19:09:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: admin@dccserver.com Reply-To: admin@dccserver.com To: admin@dccserver.com Subject: Discount Capital For Commercial Equipment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <200001081909896.SM00184@dccserver.att.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:17:46 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org em general doc

Discount Capital

For

Equipment Leasing & Financing

 

We provide financing for Commercial Equipment, Upgrading or Expansion & High-Tech Equipment Leasing.

 

100% Financing on New & Used Equipment.

 

Sale Lease backs, Debt Consolidations,

 

Deferred Payment plans, lets you generate revenue with your new investment before you have to pay for it.

 

Financing programs for ALL credit profiles.

 

Use our Asset Location Division to help find the equipment you need.

Discount Capital Corp.

10101 Slater Ave. Suite 123-A

Fountain Valley, CA 92708

Phone: (877)346-MONY(6669) Fax: (714)593-0326

Don't Respond To This Address As It Is Not Monitored

E-Mail us @ info@discountcapital.net or visit out web site http://www.discountcapital.net/

To Stop Receiving Our Mail, Click On The Remove Link And Type

"Remove" In The Subject Line.           remove@discountcapital.net

To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 8 21:31:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A1014C2B for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:31:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2ivea3s.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.40.124]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00539; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:30:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38781CEE.6726EE0D@confusion.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 00:30:22 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification - Sysadmin liability ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since there is no FreeBSD certification AFAIK, what sort of certifications are good, if nothing else for a resume and such. For networking type stuff there's the Cisco certs (CCNA, CCIE, etc.), and Micro$oft has the MCSE and such. Is there something more generic that hiring types like to see? Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > Hi, > > > Well, there's a professional group of systems administrators (SAGE;it's > > affiliated with USENIX, which is another organization that it's a good > > idea to know about). > > > > And the notion of "certification for systems administrators" tends to be > > one of the more contentious issues discussed, both in the sage-members > > mailing list and at face-to-face meetings. > > What should a certification be good for ? I dont think BSD needs > promotion, and else ? Sysadmin liability comes to mind. Well, as a law > student, not a professional admin, I think all cases are too different, to > be judged according to the fact if somebody had a general license to admin > or not. But I dont know any cases. Are there any ? > > Heiko > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 1999 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message