From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Jul 10 7: 8:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [161.44.133.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C9B37B5A3 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:08:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18231 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:08:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <200007101408.KAA18231@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1-RELEASE Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:08:15 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been starting to pick up some rumors of 4.1-RELEASE. Any ETA of the release, so that I can up the amount of release testing I've been doing on -STABLE? -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Jul 10 7:12:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com (cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com [24.11.88.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2638137B623 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) Received: from whale.home-net (whale [192.168.1.2]) by cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03385; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:12:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) Received: (from jjreynold@localhost) by whale.home-net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA69600; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:12:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) From: John Reynolds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14697.55750.681373.348254@whale.home-net> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:12:22 -0700 (MST) To: Brian McGovern Cc: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <200007101408.KAA18231@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> References: <200007101408.KAA18231@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under Emacs 20.6.1 Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Monday, July 10, Brian McGovern wrote: ] > I've been starting to pick up some rumors of 4.1-RELEASE. Any ETA of the > release, so that I can up the amount of release testing I've been doing > on -STABLE? > > -Brian I had thought July 15th was the date set forth. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= John Reynolds Chandler Capabilities Engineering, CDS, Intel Corporation jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com My opinions are mine, not Intel's. Running jjreynold@home.com FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE. FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://members.home.com/jjreynold/ Come join us!!! @ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Jul 10 8:29:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506BB37B79C for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p29-dn03kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.224.158]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id AAA14303; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:28:14 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3969EBAC.4DBE9FCF@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:28:44 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian McGovern Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE References: <200007101408.KAA18231@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian McGovern wrote: > > I've been starting to pick up some rumors of 4.1-RELEASE. Any ETA of the > release, so that I can up the amount of release testing I've been doing > on -STABLE? I'd say go for it... :-) The release is tentatively scheduled to the 25th, with a code freeze on the 20th. Personally, I think this is a grave mistake, and fear we'll end up with a 4.1-RELEASE with more bugs than 4.0-RELEASE had. I'd personally appreciate any help those on the Quality Assurance list can give us. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org _DES: The Book of Bruce has only one sentence in it, and it says "the actual directives of my cult are left as an exercise for the reader. Good luck." jkh: does it really include the 'good luck' part? EE: OK, I made that part up. EE: I figured it should sound a bit more cheery than how Bruce initially dictated it to me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Jul 10 8:39:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310C637BAFA for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id PAA13853 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:39:52 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id IAA24380 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:39:47 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id LAA08045; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:39:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14697.60996.49690.839290@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:39:48 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <3969EBAC.4DBE9FCF@newsguy.com> References: <200007101408.KAA18231@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> <3969EBAC.4DBE9FCF@newsguy.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, July 11, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: ] > > I'd say go for it... :-) The release is tentatively scheduled to the > 25th, with a code freeze on the 20th. Personally, I think this is a > grave mistake, and fear we'll end up with a 4.1-RELEASE with more bugs > than 4.0-RELEASE had. In what respects? Source-level build procedures (which seem to be confusing people--the whole buildkernel/installkernel thing)? Secure changes? Let us know the issues and maybe those who can install the RC snaps can focus on those areas for testing. > I'd personally appreciate any help those on the Quality Assurance list > can give us. I can only assume that Jordan will be rolling at least 1 4.1-RC release -and- putting an ISO up for download? -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Jul 10 8:57:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356B437BDFD; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p29-dn03kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.224.158]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id AAA22409; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:55:47 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3969F221.34F78CE6@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:56:17 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Reynolds~ Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE References: <200007101408.KAA18231@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> <3969EBAC.4DBE9FCF@newsguy.com> <14697.60996.49690.839290@hip186.ch.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds~ wrote: > > In what respects? Source-level build procedures (which seem to be confusing > people--the whole buildkernel/installkernel thing)? Secure changes? Let us > know the issues and maybe those who can install the RC snaps can focus on > those areas for testing. I had to chuckle here... :-) The issues 4.1 will have are whatever it is that doesn't get enough testing! :-) We now have seen a HUGE merging effort. Fortunately, this is quite different from the usual "I need to get this feature in there before release!" effect that have plagued is before. But it still opens a lot of room for problems. And, then, I think we'll have no "CD candidates", as we had with 4.0, to test the actual _cd_ distribution, which is something that often bite us. All I can say is... test whatever you are familiar with, whatever features you exercise more heavily than usual. One is more likely to spot bugs this way. Then again, testing things you have never done before is also good to spot assumptions we make that are not clear to beginners, so we can document then more clearly. You are also more likely to make mistakes that the system ought to have been more forthcome in preventing. This is more in regards to the installation process itself, and the usability of the system after the installation is done (is something being forgotten? was all that needs to be setup automatically done? did we need to state the need for some post-installation manual setups that we forgot? etc). > > I'd personally appreciate any help those on the Quality Assurance list > > can give us. > > I can only assume that Jordan will be rolling at least 1 4.1-RC release -and- > putting an ISO up for download? I don't know. That was not my impression. But rather than spread misinformation here, better just let Jordan speak. So, Jordan? :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org _DES: The Book of Bruce has only one sentence in it, and it says "the actual directives of my cult are left as an exercise for the reader. Good luck." jkh: does it really include the 'good luck' part? EE: OK, I made that part up. EE: I figured it should sound a bit more cheery than how Bruce initially dictated it to me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Jul 10 9: 2:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB1837BE25; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA12491; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:02:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA06312; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:02:05 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id MAA09516; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:02:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14697.62333.775276.719291@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:02:05 -0700 (MST) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <3969F221.34F78CE6@newsguy.com> References: <200007101408.KAA18231@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> <3969EBAC.4DBE9FCF@newsguy.com> <14697.60996.49690.839290@hip186.ch.intel.com> <3969F221.34F78CE6@newsguy.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, July 11, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: ] > > I had to chuckle here... :-) The issues 4.1 will have are whatever it is > that doesn't get enough testing! :-) HA! > We now have seen a HUGE merging effort. Fortunately, this is quite > different from the usual "I need to get this feature in there before > release!" effect that have plagued is before. But it still opens a lot > of room for problems. indeed. > And, then, I think we'll have no "CD candidates", as we had with 4.0, to > test the actual _cd_ distribution, which is something that often bite > us. > > I don't know. That was not my impression. But rather than spread > misinformation here, better just let Jordan speak. So, Jordan? :-) Hmmmmm. That indeed could "bite" us. I remember that the CD and N RC releases for 4.0 caught lots of stuff in the install process. Maybe that would be less now since we're not doing a ".0" release, but still--if it's possible to roll an ISO, I know I for one would download/burn/install/give-feedback. I sure others would too .... -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Jul 10 17: 2:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CF137BACA; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA46590; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA51512; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14697.62333.775276.719291@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: John Reynolds~ Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, "Daniel C. Sobral" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Jul-00 John Reynolds~ wrote: > [ On Tuesday, July 11, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: ] >> And, then, I think we'll have no "CD candidates", as we had with 4.0, to >> test the actual _cd_ distribution, which is something that often bite >> us. >> >> I don't know. That was not my impression. But rather than spread >> misinformation here, better just let Jordan speak. So, Jordan? :-) > > Hmmmmm. That indeed could "bite" us. I remember that the CD and N RC releases > for 4.0 caught lots of stuff in the install process. Maybe that would be less > now since we're not doing a ".0" release, but still--if it's possible to roll > an ISO, I know I for one would download/burn/install/give-feedback. I sure > others would too .... If you have the bandwidth, you could do an FTP install of the latest daily snap from releng4.FreeBSD.org. Today's build seemed to work ok (4.0-20000710-STABLE), so perhaps it's a good place to start testing? > -Jr -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Tue Jul 11 13:37:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160C337B991; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15504; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: John Reynolds~ , freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:56:17 +0900." <3969F221.34F78CE6@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:36:51 -0700 Message-ID: <15501.963347811@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I don't know. That was not my impression. But rather than spread > misinformation here, better just let Jordan speak. So, Jordan? :-) I could put up a test ISO image if there were enough demand. I won't have a set of packages until at least the 20th, however, so "full testing" might not be possible with any ISO I release in time to really be seriously utilized (unless people's links are getting fast enough to make 24 hour test turn-around times possible now :). - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Tue Jul 11 16: 3:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (mail1.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B807C37B86C; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:03:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwass99@home.com) Received: from tristan.net ([24.114.108.234]) by mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000711230321.GVAI416.mail1.rdc3.on.home.com@tristan.net>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:03:21 -0700 Content-Length: 1064 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15501.963347811@localhost> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:55:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Colin To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, John Reynolds~ , "Daniel C. Sobral" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would certainly prefer to test with an ISO if that were at all possible. My link would probably allow for a 36 hour turn-around. Gotta love them cable modems ;) On 11-Jul-00 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> I don't know. That was not my impression. But rather than spread >> misinformation here, better just let Jordan speak. So, Jordan? :-) > > I could put up a test ISO image if there were enough demand. I won't > have a set of packages until at least the 20th, however, so "full > testing" might not be possible with any ISO I release in time to > really be seriously utilized (unless people's links are getting fast > enough to make 24 hour test turn-around times possible now :). > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message -- Cheers, Colin -------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Colin Date: 11-Jul-00 Time: 18:55:22 This message was sent by a little daemon with a big attitude .l -------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 4:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (h00a0242f177e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.249.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD57437B945; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:39:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA63567; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:39:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200007121139.HAA63567@spoon.beta.com> To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Cc: jkh@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1 Release testing... Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:39:12 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry I've been so quiet. It appears that mail to me from freefall has been hanging up until this morning. At least now I'm caught up (just in time to change ISPs... ;) ) Anyhow, if everyone is serious about a code freeze on 7/20 for release on 7/25, how about this for a timetable.... ISO images to be cut on 7/14, 7/17, 7/20 (at 'code freeze'), and 7/22. By 7/24, all feedback in to Jordan for a go/no go decision. If there is still a show stopping bug, bump the release to 7/28, and roll another RC on 7/25. Continue bumping the release by 3 days as needed to squish the show-stopping bugs. Now, I'm sure Jordan is squirming over bumping back the release date, but I'd like to remind everyone that on 4.0, Jordan released the image before he read my mail that we slipped in a bug the night before in sysinstall that causes it to crash when selecting a custom install. This effectively rendered my 4.0 CDs useless, as every time I want to play with 4.0, I have to go make floppies to boot from. Now, with this schedule, it a.) gives people time to download, and b.) we'll get one full cut of the CD either at 7/20 and/or 7/22, depending on when Jordan gets the full package set together. The last thing that needs to be done is we need to pick a machine that has reasonable speeds for the most people. In the past, this was releng3, but it no longer seems to be alive. ftp.cdrom.com won't cut it, unless we can all download at 5am... Suggestions? Comments? -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 11: 2:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978C337C01E; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA42777; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:02:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA39456; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200007121139.HAA63567@spoon.beta.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: "Brian J. McGovern" Subject: RE: 4.1 Release testing... Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Jul-00 Brian J. McGovern wrote: > Sorry I've been so quiet. It appears that mail to me from freefall has been > hanging up until this morning. At least now I'm caught up (just in time to > change ISPs... ;) ) > > Anyhow, if everyone is serious about a code freeze on 7/20 for release on > 7/25, how about this for a timetable.... > > ISO images to be cut on 7/14, 7/17, 7/20 (at 'code freeze'), and 7/22. So, we don't _have_ to have packages on the 14th and 17th, it would just be nice? Satoshi, do you have any recent package builds we could use to build a full CD #1 sitting on the build cluster? > By 7/24, all feedback in to Jordan for a go/no go decision. If there is still > a show stopping bug, bump the release to 7/28, and roll another RC on 7/25. > Continue bumping the release by 3 days as needed to squish the show-stopping > bugs. > > Now, I'm sure Jordan is squirming over bumping back the release date, but I'd > like to remind everyone that on 4.0, Jordan released the image before he read > my mail that we slipped in a bug the night before in sysinstall that causes > it > to crash when selecting a custom install. This effectively rendered my 4.0 > CDs useless, as every time I want to play with 4.0, I have to go make > floppies to boot from. > > Now, with this schedule, it a.) gives people time to download, and b.) we'll > get one full cut of the CD either at 7/20 and/or 7/22, depending on when > Jordan gets the full package set together. > > The last thing that needs to be done is we need to pick a machine that has > reasonable speeds for the most people. In the past, this was releng3, but it > no longer seems to be alive. ftp.cdrom.com won't cut it, unless we can all > download at 5am... Suggestions? releng4 exists and works fine. :) It also has the daily snaps on it so that people can start testing early if they wish. > Comments? > > -Brian -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 11:14:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (h00a0242f177e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.249.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FB737B93F; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA64708; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:14:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200007121814.OAA64708@spoon.beta.com> To: John Baldwin Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:26 PDT." Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:14:23 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On 12-Jul-00 Brian J. McGovern wrote: > > Sorry I've been so quiet. It appears that mail to me from freefall has been > > hanging up until this morning. At least now I'm caught up (just in time to > > change ISPs... ;) ) > > > > Anyhow, if everyone is serious about a code freeze on 7/20 for release on > > 7/25, how about this for a timetable.... > > > > ISO images to be cut on 7/14, 7/17, 7/20 (at 'code freeze'), and 7/22. > > So, we don't _have_ to have packages on the 14th and 17th, it would just > be nice? Satoshi, do you have any recent package builds we could use to > build a full CD #1 sitting on the build cluster? > Given that most of the bugs occur in the OS, and the package related bugs tend to be a dependency missing, I think it would be wise get our hands on the OS ASAP. Given that the test cycle is so short, I'd rather the bandwidth early on go to downloading a small ISO image and test, rather than downloading a larger ISO image w/packages (which are usually at least the size of the OS, if not larger), and getting less test time. Given that most of the 'bugs' with packages usually revolve around dependencies missing, or problems with the unpackaging, I think we can put them off a few days, and get a number of OS bugs shaken out first. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 11:24:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE98637C259; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA43719; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:24:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA39613; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200007121814.OAA64708@spoon.beta.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: "Brian J. McGovern" Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... Cc: asami@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Jul-00 Brian J. McGovern wrote: > > > > > On 12-Jul-00 Brian J. McGovern wrote: > > > Sorry I've been so quiet. It appears that mail to me from freefall has > been > > > hanging up until this morning. At least now I'm caught up (just in time > to > > > change ISPs... ;) ) > > > > > > Anyhow, if everyone is serious about a code freeze on 7/20 for release > on > > > 7/25, how about this for a timetable.... > > > > > > ISO images to be cut on 7/14, 7/17, 7/20 (at 'code freeze'), and 7/22. > > > > So, we don't _have_ to have packages on the 14th and 17th, it would just > > be nice? Satoshi, do you have any recent package builds we could use to > > build a full CD #1 sitting on the build cluster? > > > > Given that most of the bugs occur in the OS, and the package related bugs > tend to be a dependency missing, I think it would be wise get our hands on > the OS ASAP. Given that the test cycle is so short, I'd rather the bandwidth > early on go to downloading a small ISO image and test, rather than > downloading > a larger ISO image w/packages (which are usually at least the size of the OS, > if not larger), and getting less test time. > > Given that most of the 'bugs' with packages usually revolve around > dependencies missing, or problems with the unpackaging, I think we can put > them > off a few days, and get a number of OS bugs shaken out first. > -Brian It should not be a problem to have an ISO by the 14th then. If Jordan doesn't want to do it, then I'll roll a releng_4 release snapshot here at work and then get him to stick the FTP bits and the ISO in the appropriate places. :) -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 12:52: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5AF37B701; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca14-12.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.12]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16347; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id MAA72176; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:51:31 -0700 (PDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: "Brian J. McGovern" , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... References: From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 12 Jul 2000 12:50:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: John Baldwin's message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:26 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: John Baldwin * So, we don't _have_ to have packages on the 14th and 17th, it would just * be nice? Satoshi, do you have any recent package builds we could use to * build a full CD #1 sitting on the build cluster? They are always in bento:/a/asami/portbuild/[345]/packages. If it's an in-progress build, you can find the previos version in bento:/a/asami/portbuild/[345]/bak/packages. However, note that these have to be (manually) split up into multiple CDs if you are serious about burning ISO's. Steve Price is the one to talk to if you want them split. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 12:57:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B452837BD9C; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA44560; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: John Baldwin , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:14:23 EDT." <200007121814.OAA64708@spoon.beta.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:57:35 -0700 Message-ID: <44557.963431855@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tell you guys what - I'll release an ISO on the 18th if I can get packages that quickly and you guys can test the heck out of it. Then I'll release another on the 22nd for a second round of testing and we'll go with the final image on the 25th. Best I can do with an already-slipped schedule and other people in the product loop calling for my head on a plate. - Jordan > > > > > On 12-Jul-00 Brian J. McGovern wrote: > > > Sorry I've been so quiet. It appears that mail to me from freefall has b een > > > hanging up until this morning. At least now I'm caught up (just in time to > > > change ISPs... ;) ) > > > > > > Anyhow, if everyone is serious about a code freeze on 7/20 for release o n > > > 7/25, how about this for a timetable.... > > > > > > ISO images to be cut on 7/14, 7/17, 7/20 (at 'code freeze'), and 7/22. > > > > So, we don't _have_ to have packages on the 14th and 17th, it would just > > be nice? Satoshi, do you have any recent package builds we could use to > > build a full CD #1 sitting on the build cluster? > > > > Given that most of the bugs occur in the OS, and the package related bugs > tend to be a dependency missing, I think it would be wise get our hands on > the OS ASAP. Given that the test cycle is so short, I'd rather the bandwidth > early on go to downloading a small ISO image and test, rather than downloadin g > a larger ISO image w/packages (which are usually at least the size of the OS, > if not larger), and getting less test time. > > Given that most of the 'bugs' with packages usually revolve around > dependencies missing, or problems with the unpackaging, I think we can put th em > off a few days, and get a number of OS bugs shaken out first. > -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 12:58:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7213937BDA6; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:58:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA44592; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:59:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: John Baldwin Cc: "Brian J. McGovern" , asami@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:23:16 PDT." Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:59:07 -0700 Message-ID: <44589.963431947@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It should not be a problem to have an ISO by the 14th then. If Jordan > doesn't want to do it, then I'll roll a releng_4 release snapshot here > at work and then get him to stick the FTP bits and the ISO in the > appropriate places. :) An ISO image on the 14th is also doable, but I didn't think the packages would be available by then. Was I wrong? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 13: 6:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6AD37BEBC; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA44661; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: John Baldwin , "Brian J. McGovern" , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... In-reply-to: Your message of "12 Jul 2000 12:50:59 PDT." Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:06:48 -0700 Message-ID: <44658.963432408@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > They are always in bento:/a/asami/portbuild/[345]/packages. If it's > an in-progress build, you can find the previos version in > bento:/a/asami/portbuild/[345]/bak/packages. > > However, note that these have to be (manually) split up into multiple > CDs if you are serious about burning ISO's. Steve Price is the one to > talk to if you want them split. Grumble. If I ask Steve to check in his tools for doing this, it will only be the 5th or 6th time I've asked him to do so with no response on the topic. Should I dare even asking again? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 13:28:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703BE37C242; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca14-12.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.12]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29407; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id NAA72387; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:24:24 -0700 (PDT) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: John Baldwin , "Brian J. McGovern" , freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... References: <44589.963431947@localhost> From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 12 Jul 2000 13:23:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:59:07 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" * An ISO image on the 14th is also doable, but I didn't think the * packages would be available by then. Was I wrong? "Some" packages will always be available. They are just not the ones that go in the final release. Jordan, I need to know the exact date you need the packages that go into the release. There is tremendous pressure to put in the "latest" packages on the release -- everyone has his or her favorite port that happened to be updated/fixed/security hole plugged just hours after the ports freeze. The number of people who send me mail pleading to slip in just one more update has been increasing over the years due to the number of ports exploding. So, can you tell me when you need the final set of packages? I'll talk with Steve and decide the ports freeze date as late as possible based on that. As for earlier package sets that can be used for testing, I'll be building 4-stable packages exclusively from now on, so new ones will be showing up every 2 days or so. (I can do those faster if you can get me the new machines to replace the broken ones...hint hint. :) You need to talk to Steve about splitting them up, though. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 13:39:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EE837B601; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA44864; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , John Baldwin , "Brian J. McGovern" , freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... In-reply-to: Your message of "12 Jul 2000 13:23:14 PDT." Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:39:48 -0700 Message-ID: <44861.963434388@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jordan, I need to know the exact date you need the packages that go > into the release. There is tremendous pressure to put in the "latest" > packages on the release -- everyone has his or her favorite port that > happened to be updated/fixed/security hole plugged just hours after > the ports freeze. The number of people who send me mail pleading to > slip in just one more update has been increasing over the years due to > the number of ports exploding. Let's call it the 23rd then. This will give Steve two days to segregate them before I need a final cut for the ISO images. If he needs more time (Steve? Where arreeeee yooooooo? ;) then, of course, this will need to be pushed back. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 13:43:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from wat-border.sentex.ca (waterloo-hespler.sentex.ca [199.212.135.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2399237C0C0; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by wat-border.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA99215; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:43:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA15693; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000712163654.03107bd0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:38:42 -0400 To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <"Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:59:07 -0700"> <44589.963431947@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One the comes to mind is big brother. It should either be updated or marked as broken as there is a security hole in the current version. Also the port version runs as root when it happily runs under and should run under its own non priv'd userid. ---Mike At 01:23 PM 7/12/00 -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > * An ISO image on the 14th is also doable, but I didn't think the > * packages would be available by then. Was I wrong? > >"Some" packages will always be available. They are just not the ones >that go in the final release. >...... -- everyone has his or her favorite port that >happened to be updated/fixed/security hole plugged just hours after >the ports freeze. The number of people who send me mail pleading to >slip in just one more update has been increasing over the years due to >the number of ports exploding. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 13:48:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77ACB37B670; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca14-12.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.12]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24531; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id NAA72541; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: John Baldwin , "Brian J. McGovern" , freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... References: <44861.963434388@localhost> From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 12 Jul 2000 13:48:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:39:48 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" * Let's call it the 23rd then. This will give Steve two days to * segregate them before I need a final cut for the ISO images. You mean you need the split up versions by the 25th, so I give Steve the packages on 23rd? Or you need them on the 23rd and I talk to Steve when he needs them? * If he needs more time (Steve? Where arreeeee yooooooo? ;) * then, of course, this will need to be pushed back. He's probably holed up again in a basement of a hotel someplace.... Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 13:49:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D853C37C10A for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:49:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca14-12.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.12]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14255; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id NAA72558; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:49:26 -0700 (PDT) To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... References: <"Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:59:07 -0700"> <44589.963431947@localhost> <4.3.2.7.0.20000712163654.03107bd0@marble.sentex.ca> From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 12 Jul 2000 13:49:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: Mike Tancsa's message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:38:42 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: Mike Tancsa * One the comes to mind is big brother. It should either be updated or marked * as broken as there is a security hole in the current version. Also the * port version runs as root when it happily runs under and should run under * its own non priv'd userid. This one is already marked FORBIDDEN. === >> grep FORBIDDEN /usr/ports/net/bb/Makefile FORBIDDEN= "Remote buffer overflow in bbd" === Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 13:56: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05E637BFE9; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA45129; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , John Baldwin , "Brian J. McGovern" , freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... In-reply-to: Your message of "12 Jul 2000 13:48:12 PDT." Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:56:14 -0700 Message-ID: <45126.963435374@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > * From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > * Let's call it the 23rd then. This will give Steve two days to > * segregate them before I need a final cut for the ISO images. > > You mean you need the split up versions by the 25th, so I give Steve > the packages on 23rd? Or you need them on the 23rd and I talk to > Steve when he needs them? I'd like them by the 23rd (the finished product) so that we have a couple of days to find any problems with them. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 15:11:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF2D37BC42 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:11:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id WAA12997 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:11:41 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id PAA00613 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:11:40 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id SAA13870; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:11:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14700.60700.80523.14863@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:11:40 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... In-Reply-To: <44557.963431855@localhost> References: <200007121814.OAA64708@spoon.beta.com> <44557.963431855@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Wednesday, July 12, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ] > Tell you guys what - I'll release an ISO on the 18th if I can get > packages that quickly and you guys can test the heck out of it. Then > I'll release another on the 22nd for a second round of testing and > we'll go with the final image on the 25th. Best I can do with an > already-slipped schedule and other people in the product loop calling > for my head on a plate. I will download, install, feedback, rinse, lather, repeat as necessary :) -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 16:44:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC9837BD5C; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:44:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca14-12.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.12]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19660; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id QAA73403; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:44:16 -0700 (PDT) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: John Baldwin , "Brian J. McGovern" , freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... References: <45126.963435374@localhost> From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 12 Jul 2000 16:44:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:56:14 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" * I'd like them by the 23rd (the finished product) so that we have a * couple of days to find any problems with them. Ok. So, when do you want them, Steve? Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 17:27:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3953B37C064; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:27:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA55129; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA42463; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44589.963431947@localhost> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG, "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Jul-00 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> It should not be a problem to have an ISO by the 14th then. If Jordan >> doesn't want to do it, then I'll roll a releng_4 release snapshot here >> at work and then get him to stick the FTP bits and the ISO in the >> appropriate places. :) > > An ISO image on the 14th is also doable, but I didn't think the > packages would be available by then. Was I wrong? For the first ISO, no packages are needed. > - Jordan -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jul 12 20:19:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (h00a0242f177e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.249.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A1937B987; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:19:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA66236; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:19:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200007130319.XAA66236@spoon.beta.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: John Baldwin , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:57:35 PDT." <44557.963431855@localhost> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:19:34 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [significant trim] I hope I haven't missed anyone on this. Sorry if I did. Based on the email blast tonight (thats what I get for visiting the kids I'm about to adopt), here is the timetable I see. Anyone see problems with this? Otherwise, I'll send appropriate mails to -qa and -hackers and ticklers for people. 7/14 - First test run. Jordan has NOT committed to an ISO image, so we may have to pull the snapshot from releng4.freebsd.org as soon as its available. It is _critical_ we test this to locate show-stopping bugs early, while there is still a week to fix them. 7/18 - First ISO image from Jordan. This may or may not have packages, based on what Satoshi can get together. 7/22 - Second ISO image from Jordan. Should be final test cut w/packages. 7/24 - If you want it fixed, Jordan better know about it. 7/25 - 4.1 Release -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Jul 13 7:23: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (h00a0242f177e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.249.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E788437B9C3; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:23:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA68128; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:23:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200007131423.KAA68128@spoon.beta.com> To: jkh@freebsd.org, ftp@usw3.freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: wu-ftpd on releng4? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:23:03 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any possibility that we can get the powers that be to install wu-ftpd, or similar, so that we can tar snapshots on the fly? Its probably going to be critical in the next 24 hours, as I'd hate to see the time waste of pulling it down one directory at a time. I'd almost feel better rolling my own. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Jul 13 10:51:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E3E37C261; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:51:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01323; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:52:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: jkh@freebsd.org, ftp@usw3.freebsd.org, freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wu-ftpd on releng4? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:23:03 EDT." <200007131423.KAA68128@spoon.beta.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:52:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1320.963510731@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It doesn't work there and I have no idea why. It's damn weird. Same config as for current.freebsd.org, but no workie. - Jordan > Any possibility that we can get the powers that be to install wu-ftpd, or > similar, so that we can tar snapshots on the fly? Its probably going to be > critical in the next 24 hours, as I'd hate to see the time waste of pulling > it down one directory at a time. I'd almost feel better rolling my own. > > -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Jul 13 17: 0:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194AF37B5C6; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA91415; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05958; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:59:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200007130319.XAA66236@spoon.beta.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: "Brian J. McGovern" Subject: Re: 4.1 Release testing... Cc: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com, asami@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13-Jul-00 Brian J. McGovern wrote: > [significant trim] > > I hope I haven't missed anyone on this. Sorry if I did. > > Based on the email blast tonight (thats what I get for visiting the kids > I'm about to adopt), here is the timetable I see. Anyone see problems with > this? Otherwise, I'll send appropriate mails to -qa and -hackers and > ticklers for people. > > 7/14 - First test run. Jordan has NOT committed to an ISO image, so we may > have to pull the snapshot from releng4.freebsd.org as soon > as its available. It is _critical_ we test this to locate > show-stopping bugs early, while there is still a week to fix > them. I'm building a release for this right now. Assuming it doesn't fall over (it shouldn't as I already built another 4.x release today fine) I should have an ISO for Jordan in about 6-8 hours. > 7/18 - First ISO image from Jordan. This may or may not have packages, based > on what Satoshi can get together. > > 7/22 - Second ISO image from Jordan. Should be final test cut w/packages. > > 7/24 - If you want it fixed, Jordan better know about it. > > 7/25 - 4.1 Release > > > -Brian -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 1:55:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A9337B692 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02139 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:55:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA11217 for freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.1-RC1 delayed a bit... Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hrmph, due to some difficulties with FTP servers and the packages needed to build the docs, the 4.1-RC1 release I was building is now a bit delayed, so it will still be several hours before I can test it and send the ISO off to Jordan. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 9:48:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42E737C611 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13503 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:47:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19460 for qa@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: qa@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.1-RC1 pushed back again.. Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry guys, but the docs were broken and caused my relesae to fall over at about 6:40am PDT while I was trying to sleep after it had been building for 8 hours. *sigh* I've restarted it for the 3rd time, this time with no docs and no ports, which means it should be done in 4 hours. I'll test it and get it to jkh to put up for FTP ASAP. Sorry for the delay. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 10: 2:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (h00a0242f177e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.249.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3545137BAFE; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:02:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA75076; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:02:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200007141702.NAA75076@spoon.beta.com> To: John Baldwin Cc: qa@FreeBSD.ORG, mcgovern@spoon.beta.com Subject: Re: 4.1-RC1 pushed back again.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:47:24 PDT." Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:02:37 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the moment, I just grabbed the snapshot from releng4.freebsd.org with ncftp2, and grabbed X to replace the symbolic link. Its without packages, but it will give me something to start testing. I suspect everyone else can do the same. Perhaps effort should be spent on fixing the process and worry less about getting an ISO image this round. -Brian > Sorry guys, but the docs were broken and caused my relesae to > fall over at about 6:40am PDT while I was trying to sleep after > it had been building for 8 hours. *sigh* I've restarted it > for the 3rd time, this time with no docs and no ports, which > means it should be done in 4 hours. I'll test it and get it > to jkh to put up for FTP ASAP. Sorry for the delay. > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 10:12:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5EE37C7E3 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14629; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19663; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:11:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200007141702.NAA75076@spoon.beta.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: "Brian J. McGovern" Subject: Re: 4.1-RC1 pushed back again.. Cc: qa@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 14-Jul-00 Brian J. McGovern wrote: > For the moment, I just grabbed the snapshot from releng4.freebsd.org with > ncftp2, and grabbed X to replace the symbolic link. Its without packages, > but it will give me something to start testing. > > I suspect everyone else can do the same. Perhaps effort should be spent on > fixing the process and worry less about getting an ISO image this round. I can live with that if you don't think an ISO would be needed at this point in time. If so, then I'll play with making a 'restart-release' target that can be used to restart a release from where it left off. > -Brian > > Sorry guys, but the docs were broken and caused my relesae to > > fall over at about 6:40am PDT while I was trying to sleep after > > it had been building for 8 hours. *sigh* I've restarted it > > for the 3rd time, this time with no docs and no ports, which > > means it should be done in 4 hours. I'll test it and get it > > to jkh to put up for FTP ASAP. Sorry for the delay. > > > > -- > > > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > > PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc > > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 16:55:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B5037BF60 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:55:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27991 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16442 for freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:54:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.1-RC1 is finished. Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, after much trial and tribulation, I got a stripped down, no ports, no docs, no packages, and no X release candidate rolled and tested: FreeBSD widget.osd.bsdi.com 4.1-RC1 FreeBSD 4.1-RC1 #0: Fri Jul 14 22:27:29 GMT 2000 root@deimos.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 It will be at an FTP site near you as soon as Jordan copies it over to the right place. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 17:47:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (h00a0242f177e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.249.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727DD37BA69; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA76197; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:47:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200007150047.UAA76197@spoon.beta.com> To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Cc: jkh@freebsd.org Subject: First bug in sysinstall... Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:47:30 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fortunately, its a simple one. After doing a custom installation, I went in to the post-install configuration menu and configured my Ethernet interface, without using DHCP. After hitting OK, and bringing the interface up, the configuration menu does not redraw properly. This doesn't appear to occur with the other menu choices. Otherwise, so far, so good. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 18:28:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (h00a0242f177e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.249.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB1237C44B; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:28:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA76319; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:28:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200007150128.VAA76319@spoon.beta.com> To: hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Cc: jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Possible bug - check me 4.1 7/14 RC Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:28:26 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When compiling kernels, either by cd'ing to /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, config'ing, and make depending, etc, or by going to /usr/src and saying "make KERNEL=MEC buildkernel", I get: cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../kern/kern_sig.c ../../kern/kern_sig.c:359: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype ../../kern/kern_sig.c: In function `osigaction': ../../kern/kern_sig.c:367: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c:367: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c:369: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c:370: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c:372: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c:379: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c:384: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c: At top level: ../../kern/kern_sig.c:532: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype ../../kern/kern_sig.c: In function `osigprocmask': ../../kern/kern_sig.c:538: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c:539: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../kern/kern_sig.c: At top level: ../../kern/kern_sig.c:567: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype ../../kern/kern_sig.c:721: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype ../../kern/kern_sig.c: In function `osigsuspend': ../../kern/kern_sig.c:729: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/MEC. If someone could confirm that its not just me, I'd appreciate it. Kernel Config follows: # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.7 2000/07/13 16:13:46 imp Exp $ machine i386 #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC maxusers 64 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options UNION #Union filesystem options PORTAL #Portal filesystem options NTFS #options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor #options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) #device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) #options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured #device adv0 at isa? #device adw #device bt0 at isa? #device aha0 at isa? #device aic0 at isa? # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) #device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #device card #device pcic0 at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 #device pcic1 at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 #device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 #device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. device miibus # MII bus support #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ex #device ep # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. #device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those paremeters here. #device an # Xircom Ethernet #device xe # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 #device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support #pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 18:37:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F3037C3F3; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17358; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:36:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:34:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible bug - check me 4.1 7/14 RC In-Reply-To: <200007150128.VAA76319@spoon.beta.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had this happen to me. It turned out to be a bad source tree. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 18:58:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (h00a0242f177e.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.249.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A2A37BA51; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA76437; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:58:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200007150158.VAA76437@spoon.beta.com> To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible bug - check me 4.1 7/14 RC In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:34:35 PDT." Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:58:28 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I've had this happen to me. It turned out to be a bad source tree. > If this is true, then the first 4.1 RC snapshot has a bad source tree. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Jul 14 19: 9:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731F437B75B; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17433; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:09:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:07:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible bug - check me 4.1 7/14 RC In-Reply-To: <200007150158.VAA76437@spoon.beta.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Brian J. McGovern wrote: > > > > I've had this happen to me. It turned out to be a bad source tree. > > > > If this is true, then the first 4.1 RC snapshot has a bad source tree. Hmm. Minor problem. Ship it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Sat Jul 15 22: 3: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D0737B71C; Sat, 15 Jul 2000 22:03:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28723; Sat, 15 Jul 2000 22:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First bug in sysinstall... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:47:30 EDT." <200007150047.UAA76197@spoon.beta.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 22:03:56 -0700 Message-ID: <28720.963723836@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmm. I'll see if I can fix this one, otherwise it's not a show-stopper. - Jordan > Fortunately, its a simple one. After doing a custom installation, I went > in to the post-install configuration menu and configured my Ethernet > interface, without using DHCP. After hitting OK, and bringing the > interface up, the configuration menu does not redraw properly. This > doesn't appear to occur with the other menu choices. > > Otherwise, so far, so good. > > -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message