From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 1: 7:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B0537B7D2 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA63239; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 02:07:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA10092; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 02:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006250805.CAA10092@harmony.village.org> To: micheloo@xs4all.nl (Michel Oosterhof) Subject: Re: panic when installing port linux_base Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "24 Jun 2000 18:43:06 +0200." <8j2oeq$a16$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> References: <8j2oeq$a16$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 02:05:19 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <8j2oeq$a16$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> Michel Oosterhof writes: : My system panics when i try to install the linux_base port. : It's a 4.0-STABLE system. 'make' works fine, and downloads : the software. 'make install' does install ldconfig, but : then reboots my system. Make sure that your kernel and userland are exactly in sync. The modules that are build as part of make buildworld and installed in installworld must match the kernel that you've installed. Otherwise, the linux abi implemetnation module that we have may crash your machine when it is used. I think it is used at the end of make install to run the Linux ldconfig you just installed. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 8: 7:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.v-wave.com (area51.v-wave.com [24.108.26.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF6C237B5B4 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flatline@area51.v-wave.com) Received: (qmail 96044 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Jun 2000 15:08:56 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:08:56 -0600 From: Chris Wasser To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Strangeness with 4.0-S Message-ID: <20000625090856.A96022@area51.v-wave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know I've asked about this several times before, but have yet to get any real solid answer (also searched the mailing list archives) .... I've tried several different brands of network cards under FreeBSD 4.0: 3Com 3c905C-TX 10/100 Linksys LNE100TX Kingston 21143 Tulip 10/100 Netgear FA310TX 10/100 Whenever I use these cards @ 100base-T full duplex (although it's significantly less pronounced in the tulip) transferring a 7GB tarball (my test file) across a switched full-dupe network, I always end up with: dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold xl0: transmission error: 90 The problem is always the same, TX underrun on all the cards. I've done everything I can to eliminate the possibility of bus contention (PCI 2.1 enabled, delayed transactions, etc) but I can never seem to eliminate this problem. It only seems to happen @ 100base-T/FDX however. Has anyone run into this problem? Or can suggest a possible course of action short of modifying the TX threshold in the source? I noticed that it started showing up again after I cvsup'd last night from running June 11'th source. When the new source was installed, TX underruns started happening, before that, June 11'th build, I put almost a terrabyte of data through the card without a single hiccup or warning of any kind. I'm pretty much at my wits end here, so if someone has an idea or a suggestion, I'm all ears. Network preformance doesn't suffer mind you, but I'd rather not see the errors (ie: stop the underrun) if possible. Thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 8:16:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.v-wave.com (area51.v-wave.com [24.108.26.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1264F37BAA4 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flatline@area51.v-wave.com) Received: (qmail 96098 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Jun 2000 15:18:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:18:14 -0600 From: Chris Wasser To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S Part II Message-ID: <20000625091814.A96076@area51.v-wave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ------ 3Com 3c905C-TX 10/100 Linksys LNE100TX Kingston 21143 Tulip 10/100 Netgear FA310TX 10/100 Whenever I use these cards @ 100base-T full duplex (although it's significantly less pronounced in the tulip) transferring a 7GB tarball (my test file) across a switched full-dupe network, I always end up with: dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold xl0: transmission error: 90 ------ [ cut ] Forgot to mention: Intel P3-550 w/256MB PC133 ABIT BE6-II motherboard ATI MACH64 PCI (*) Kingston KNE100TX (Lan) Linksys LNE100TX (Cablemodem) There's absolutely no ISA cards in this machine. There is a 3Com/USR 56K external modem running off the onboard serial for my incoming faxes and the printers are running off USB and parallel (onboard, both) * Tried a AGP version of a ATI card (Rage128) but the TX underruns happened alot more often until I swapped it out with the PCI version, this is leading me to believe there's perhaps a bus contention issue here. Anyways, as before, if anyone has any ideas, please speak up. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 9:48:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eddings.acpub.duke.edu (eddings.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3863137B5B1 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu [152.16.67.15]) by eddings.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA00931; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA86165 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:48:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sto) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:48:13 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/src/contrib/tcsh does not compile Message-ID: <20000625124813.A86115@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000625032528.00aaf600@vivaldi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000625032528.00aaf600@vivaldi>; from svysh@pn.sinp.msu.ru on Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 03:34:20AM +0400 X-Organization: House of Schmutzli X-Kitties: Bitty Maya CJ Keisha Jacob X-Hound: Bob X-OS-OF-Choice: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sergei Vyshenski stated: : Since last week or so, tcsh shell is cvsupping into /usr/src/contrib/. : But it does not even attempt to compile and install during subsequent : "make world". : : Is it a correct behavior, and what for tcsh is there? tcsh has replaced csh in -current. it was tagged for RELENG4 in advance of it being fully integrated and tested in -current. it will be the csh in 4.1 (I think). I imagine it would be that hard to turn it on and csh off in the various makefiles. s -- 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 11:52:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vega.uli.it (vega.uli.it [62.212.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E2C37B52E for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Received: from olgeni.uli.it (olgeni.uli.it [62.212.0.22]) by vega.uli.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644683B00E for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:52:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:52:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-Sender: olgeni@olgeni.localdomain.net To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: smbus trouble Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello there, I'm a FreeBSD newbie running a 4.0-STABLE system on a K7Pro motherboard (128MB ram). I'm trying to enable the smbus driver to use the temperature / voltage sensors. I enabled the following devices in my kernel: --- device iicbus device iicbb device iic device ic device iicsmb device smbus device intpm device smb device bktr # for Miro TV --- If I boot the system *without* the Miro TV board, the kernel does not detect the smbus: # dmesg | grep smb # If I use the 'consolehm' application from ports/sysutils, it says that /dev/smb0 is not configured, and exits (the file exists in /dev/). If I boot the system *with* the Miro TV, the (same) kernel detectes some smbus devices: --- bktr0: mem 0xeddfd000-0xeddfdfff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 iicbb0: on bti2c0 iicbus0: on iicbb0 master-only iicsmb0: on iicbus0 smbus0: on iicsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 iic0: on iicbus0 smbus1: on bti2c0 smb1: on smbus1 Warning - card vendor 0xbd11 (model 0x1200) unknown. Miro TV, Philips SECAM tuner. --- The Miro TV works fine under X, with fxtv-1.02. If I try to run chm (or chm -I to use the /dev/io interface) I get a kernel panic, trap 12, "supervisor page read, page not present", at address 0x8:0xc019e8f6. 'nm /kernel' returns ... c019e778 T device_get_devclass c019e76c T device_get_driver c019e7c4 T device_get_flags c019e8fc T device_get_ivars c019e784 T device_get_name c019e7a0 T device_get_nameunit ... If I disable the bktr device (and keep the Miro TV) the smbus disappears. If I keep the the bktr device (and remove the Miro TV) the smbus disappears again (!). Did I do something wrong in my kernel configuration? I have a core image in /var/crash but I don't know how to look into it :( Could anybody please help me? Thanks :-) bye, Jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 13: 4: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (mail1.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A6C37B522 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pnmurphy@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.42.55.28]) by mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000625200404.FGYZ416.mail1.rdc3.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:04:04 -0700 Message-ID: <395665B4.E12311FF@home.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:04:04 -0400 From: Paul Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -- Paul Murphy http://members.home.com/pnmurphy/ Home Lat: 43° 33' 29" N, Lon: 79° 39' 03" W Work Lat: 43° 25' 30" N, Lon: 79° 42' 34" W To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 13:31:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front5.grolier.fr (front5.grolier.fr [194.158.96.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1508B37B7C4 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpasini@club-internet.fr) Received: from mpasini (ppp-195-36-221-86.pop.club-internet.fr [195.36.221.86] (may be forged)) by front5.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with SMTP id WAA18053; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:31:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001f01bfdee4$5951b520$56dd24c3@mpasini> From: "Matthieu Pasini" To: Cc: Subject: Always an ISDN Card Problem, but don't know if it's software or hardware ... Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:23:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFDEF3.FE019900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFDEF3.FE019900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I ve compiling the kernel with the ISDN Support , all is okay and the = kernel is made and i install it ... But when i boot it , it freezes and = says me : -------------------------------------------------------------- ... "isic0: port 0xeff4-0xeff7,0xe880-0xe8ff mem = 0xfebfef80-0xfebfefff irq 9 at device 18.0 on pci0 isic0 : Error, IPAC version 2 unknow ! Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode" ... ------------------------------------------------------------------- And he reboots ... ( he let me 15 seconds ....) I really don't know what it is talking about ,but i know the card is = "working" cause it works on Win98 ( but i had problems with it,and win = freezed and rebooted alone , but without saying me anything ...). Now it's working without i made anything ,so maybe it's a hardware = problem ... Anyone has an idea ? Matthieu Pasini ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFDEF3.FE019900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
I ve compiling the kernel with the ISDN Support , = all is okay=20 and the kernel is made and i install it ... But when i boot it , it = freezes and=20 says me :
--------------------------------------------------------------
...
"isic0: <ELSA Microlink ISDN/PCI> port=20 0xeff4-0xeff7,0xe880-0xe8ff mem 0xfebfef80-0xfebfefff irq 9 at device = 18.0 on=20 pci0
isic0 : Error, IPAC version 2 unknow !
 
 
Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel=20 mode"
...
----------------------------------------------------------------= ---
And he reboots = ... ( he let=20 me 15 seconds ....)
I really don't know what it is talking about ,but i = know the=20 card is "working" cause it works on Win98 ( but i had problems = with=20 it,and win freezed and rebooted alone , but without saying me anything=20 ...).
Now it's working without i made anything ,so maybe = it's a=20 hardware problem ...
Anyone has an idea ?
 
Matthieu Pasini
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFDEF3.FE019900-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 13:48:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97A037B7C4; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA10281; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Gregory Bond Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Summary] Re: 4.0 CD, crypto and SSH In-Reply-To: <200006230751.RAA23941@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good summary :) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 17:16:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2B737B763 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:16:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id 19FDCE896; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:16:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14678.41164.32445.819682@kci.kciLink.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:16:12 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move In-Reply-To: <3954F25F.C93C2E46@3-cities.com> References: <200006241347.JAA40114@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000624.15140700@bartequi.ottodomain.org> <3954F25F.C93C2E46@3-cities.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KS" == Kent Stewart writes: >> You may just wish to delete the links and cvsup again. KS> Re-cvsuping will not help. You have to unlink the two files. Cvsup KS> doesn't know how to deal with links. Curious... I just did cvsup and the symlinks went away and the new files showed up. Perhaps it is hard links that it can't deal with. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 18:36: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from student.kgv.edu.hk (student.kgv.edu.hk [152.101.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DE0437B898 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jryan@kgv.edu.hk) Received: (qmail 76570 invoked by uid 1552); 26 Jun 2000 01:35:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 01:35:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:35:44 +0800 (CST) From: John Ryan To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Buildworld failure after upgrade Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've upgraded my machine from FreeBSD 3.4 Stable to 4.0 Release and have tried to upgrade that to 4.0 Stable. I installed DES (from an Australian ftp server) while I was at 3.4. Make update runs fine, but then I have tried several times to do a make buildworld but get the following error time. Can anyone help? cd /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED cleandepend; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -B install cleandir obj rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/GPATH /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/GRTAGS /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/GSYMS /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/GTAGS cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libmd -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt -DNONEXPORTABLE_CRYPT -DLIBC_SCCS -Wall -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/crypt.c -o crypt.o cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libmd -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt -DNONEXPORTABLE_CRYPT -DLIBC_SCCS -Wall -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/crypt-md5.c -o crypt-md5.o *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 18:43: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050A937B7AE for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:42:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA96438; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:42:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26736; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:42:43 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200006260142.LAA26736@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Doug White Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI adv SCSI card being probed twice? In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:38:57 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:42:43 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, it's standard combined ISA/PCI driver functionality. The ed driver > does it too. I gather I can ignore it? The question I don't understand is why this behaviour didn't occur in the GENERIC kernel? > (although if you compile it in as > > device adv0 > > it might squelch the ISA probe). Tried that. It just made the bogus one "adv2" instead! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 20:19:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61A0A37BA80 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:19:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gits.dyndns.org) Received: (qmail 3394952 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 03:19:51 -0000 Received: from r224m65.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.224.65]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Jun 2000 03:19:51 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA29083 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:19:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) From: Cyrille Lefevre Posted-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:19:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200006260319.FAA29083@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: cvs update failed To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:19:50 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net Organization: ACME X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL77 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, yesterday, I cvsup'ed src-all the cvs tree in /home/ncvs. make world failed due to a perl header error. today, I cvsup again and this problem has been fixed as the commitlogs/contrib says. the problem I have, is that, when I run "cvs -t update -r RELENG_4", I got the following message (last 4 lines) : ... -> unlink(zic/CVS/Entries.Static) -> unlink(zdump/CVS/Entries.Static) -> unlink(zic/CVS/Entries.Static) -> rename(CVS/Entries.Backup,CVS/Entries) -> unlink(CVS/Entries.Log) -> rename(CVS/Entries.Backup,CVS/Entries) -> unlink(CVS/Entries.Log) cvs update: notice: main loop with CVSROOT=anoncvs@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot -> Starting server: rsh anoncvs.netbsd.org -l anoncvs cvs server anoncvs.netbsd.org: Connection refused cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) what's happen ? is the update finished or (really) aborted ? how can I return to a safe state ? I already cleanup sup/*/checkouts.cvs and cvsup src-all again. Regards, Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 25 20:31:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pimout8-int.prodigy.net (pimout8-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CCF37B605 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from postmaster@vault.com) Received: from vault.com (NYCMA050-0946.splitrock.net [63.253.69.184]) by pimout8-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA189478 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:31:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3956CEEB.6D6E7D74@vault.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:32:58 -0400 From: Peter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 0:38:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50B837B888 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:38:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA22163; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:37:23 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 22161; Mon Jun 26 09:37:21 2000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:37:58 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kent Stewart Cc: Greg Work , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Console switching woes remain References: <9c983121ea800eab2aa666dfad50cd16@cequrux.com> <001d01bfdd06$e94022a0$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> <395399B2.937314CA@3-cities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart wrote: > > I thought there were some strange things that happen if you use moused > and also ran x. You had problems with the mouse unless you used the > sysmouse in x. This almost sounds like something similar. I have problems either way, which indicates either problems in the psm and kbd drivers, or hardware problems. I suspect the former but haven't totally ruled out the latter. That's why I still want to experiment with Linux and see if the same problems occur. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 0:44:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A9837BA78 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:44:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from enigmatic (dhcp1.intranet.tyfon.net [192.168.1.20]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E0B841C5C1 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:44:32 +0200 (CEST) From: "Dan Larsson" To: Subject: startup issues after mergemaster Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:44:18 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After doing a mergemaster of configuration files in /etc this morning (2000/06/26 08:00 CEST) the system fails to read /etc/rc.conf completely (stops after reading the top 3 lines, which are nic configparams). The problem may reside in something else, as I'm no expert on the startup process of FreeBSD-4.0. In any case I'd really like to merge in the new features in my conf. files. What could it be I'm missing? Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 1: 1:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFE037B9EE for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04535; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39570DA1.27D98698@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:00:33 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0603 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Larsson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startup issues after mergemaster References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Larsson wrote: > > After doing a mergemaster of configuration files in /etc > this morning (2000/06/26 08:00 CEST) the system fails to > read /etc/rc.conf completely (stops after reading the top > 3 lines, which are nic configparams). What clued you in to it stopping at exactly that point? > The problem may reside in something else, as I'm no expert > on the startup process of FreeBSD-4.0. > > In any case I'd really like to merge in the new features > in my conf. files. What could it be I'm missing? The method of sourcing the rc.conf* files has changed. We have seen some problems in the past when people don't fully merge their /etc/rc* and /etc/default/rc.conf files. Try running mergemaster again, and make sure that all you have in /etc/rc.conf* is variable assignments, no executable code. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 1:21:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B4A37BA61 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from enigmatic (dhcp1.intranet.tyfon.net [192.168.1.20]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BEE2B1C5C1; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:21:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "Dan Larsson" To: "Doug Barton" Cc: Subject: RE: startup issues after mergemaster Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:21:32 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <39570DA1.27D98698@gorean.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | Dan Larsson wrote: | > | > After doing a mergemaster of configuration files in /etc | > this morning (2000/06/26 08:00 CEST) the system fails to | > read /etc/rc.conf completely (stops after reading the top | > 3 lines, which are nic configparams). | | What clued you in to it stopping at exactly that point? On line four I have 'portmap_enable="NO"'. This as all the following lines are ignored. | Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 1:25:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E4E37BB3D; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA87045; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Khoo Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /kernel: panic: ufs_lick: recursive lock not expected... In-Reply-To: <39512073.C0760D92@gordian.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Steve Khoo wrote: > 2.2.8-STABLE NFS server crashing frequently. NFS was only really fixed in 4.0 thanks to Matt Dillon - consider upgrading. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 1:33:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de (mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de [193.99.167.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8283537B644 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from von-trotha@ghn.de) Received: from info.ghn.de (info.ghn.de [193.99.167.213]) by mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12494 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:33:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ghn.de (jupiter.ghn.de [193.99.167.206]) by info.ghn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14256 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:33:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3957156A.2C55BEB6@ghn.de> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:33:46 +0200 From: Thilo von Trotha Organization: GHN mbH, Germany X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 1:59:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5DF37BB83 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from enigmatic (dhcp1.intranet.tyfon.net [192.168.1.20]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 239FE1C7BC; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:59:31 +0200 (CEST) From: "Dan Larsson" To: "Doug Barton" Cc: Subject: RE: startup issues after mergemaster (SOLVED) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:59:16 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | The problem disappeared after a second run of mergemaster Thanks! Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 2:57: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 094F937B538 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 2136 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jun 2000 09:56:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 09:56:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:56:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Compatibility Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I've got a chance here to pick up a new Dell Poweredge 1300 for a very good price and I'm wondering if I will have any problems running FreeBSD on it, I'd like to hear of any pitfalls and so fourth before I commit to it, obviously :) It's specs are: PIII 550 (dual) 64MB ECC SDRAM (this will be replaced since I need about 512M of ram and can't afford to/don't find I need to buy half a gig of ECC ram) 9.1GB LVD SCSI 7200rpm 1" HDD Intel Pro 100+ Input appreciated, thanks in advance :) * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5VyjodMMtMcA1U5ARAnBLAKDCci9sVhOH1IKQ0t/lWkMVn7WN4ACg6P8D O4Z8AgkPnZj7JOlQoMJ4Jg8= =PtBm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 3:24:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904EC37B583 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from enigmatic (dhcp1.intranet.tyfon.net [192.168.1.20]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 17CF71C5C9 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:24:27 +0200 (CEST) From: "Dan Larsson" To: Subject: sendmail version behind Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:24:12 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a particular reason why sendmail has stayed on version 8.9.3 (current stable 8.10.2) I'm assuming licensing issues. Correct? Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 4:29:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC8C37BA22 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4A2DC64; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:29:22 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:18:25 +0200 To: "Dan Larsson" , From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: sendmail version behind Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:24 PM +0200 2000/6/26, Dan Larsson wrote: > Is there a particular reason why sendmail has > stayed on version 8.9.3 (current stable 8.10.2) > > I'm assuming licensing issues. Correct? I don't think that the license has changed between these releases. My guess is that the real reason is that no one has stepped up to the plate to get this corrected. Thank you for volunteering to fix this oversight. ;-) -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 4:29:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E86537BBAA for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43281DBB9; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:29:27 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:24:20 +0200 To: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Compatibility Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 5:56 AM -0400 2000/6/26, Matt Heckaman wrote: > I've got a chance here to pick up a new Dell Poweredge 1300 for a very > good price and I'm wondering if I will have any problems running FreeBSD > on it, I'd like to hear of any pitfalls and so fourth before I commit to > it, obviously :) I have no problems on the Dell PowerEdge 1300 that is our primary news peering server running FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE (and in the Freenix Top 100), nor on the new news spool server I am building (running FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE), nor have I had any problems on any other Dell machines (I've got a couple of PowerEdge 2450s that I'm building as news reader servers, with FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE). > PIII 550 (dual) > 64MB ECC SDRAM (this will be replaced since I need about 512M of ram and > can't afford to/don't find I need to buy half a gig of ECC ram) > 9.1GB LVD SCSI 7200rpm 1" HDD > Intel Pro 100+ It's been my experience that when you start talking about significant amounts of RAM (anything over 128-256MB), you really, *really*, *REALLY* want to be using ECC. You can't imagine the amount of pain and hassle that will be caused for you when you run into frequent hard-to-diagnose system crashes, and you can't begin to estimate the amount of time and money it will cost you to try to track down problems like this. Depending on what you're doing, how much down time results, how much your time costs per hour, and how much work is lost by all your customers, a single crash could cost you more than the ECC RAM that could have prevented that crash. That said, this has nothing to do with Dell PowerEdge servers per se, just that they allow you to use ECC RAM, and that I'd strongly encourage you to reconsider this decision. Other than that, the Dell machines should work for you just fine -- certainly no worse than any other systems I know of, and better than most. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 4:35: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C57037BBAA for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA25723 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:28:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:27:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Following the instructions from UPDATING. When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number of syntax errors and the last line reports: Specify machine type, e.g. ``machine vax'' I tried to put single and double quotes to my "machine" line with no luck. The archives returned two questions on this and one answer suggesting to put quotes which I already did. Francisco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 4:43: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 092DA37BBF7 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:42:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 2341 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jun 2000 11:42:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 11:42:52 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:42:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Compatibility Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: : It's been my experience that when you start talking about : significant amounts of RAM (anything over 128-256MB), you really, : *really*, *REALLY* want to be using ECC. Interesting, I've always personally thought ECC to be somewhat overrated and certaintly overpriced. Granted I do not have that much expierence in comparison to some, but I have a machine here running 512M of non-ECC for over a year now without any ram-related problems. (HD did die once though) ... : Depending on what you're doing, how much down time results, how : much your time costs per hour, and how much work is lost by all your : customers, a single crash could cost you more than the ECC RAM that : could have prevented that crash. I don't know, 512M (2x256) of ECC RAM will cost me 2,200$ - that's an awful nasty hit to be taking for what the server will do, which is a generally nasty business called shell services. In other words, there is no single client paying thousands of dollars for web hosting of their company's core page that will cost them (and me) a fortune for any downtime :) Given this situation, I've a hard time justifying that cost, which is only a few hundred dollars less then the *entire* machine is going to cost me, especially for it's role :) : That said, this has nothing to do with Dell PowerEdge servers per : se, just that they allow you to use ECC RAM, and that I'd strongly : encourage you to reconsider this decision. Other than that, the Dell : machines should work for you just fine -- certainly no worse than any : other systems I know of, and better than most. Thank you, I appreciate the input, as well as the information about ECC/non-ECC, it's a subject I've never really discussed before, just me living in my own little world opinions as usual. Thanks again :) : -- : These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy : ====================================================================== : Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV : Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 : Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels : http://www.skynet.be || Belgium : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5V0G7dMMtMcA1U5ARAoNOAKCJyTCqSJxW3MQ5KoVImlUOnjJ/ywCffJfd Gy3tY7W5gZKMar9S3KtRcIg= =vv5L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 4:58:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B143637BB3F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6464CDC02; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:58:26 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:58:03 +0200 To: Matt Heckaman From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Compatibility Question Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:42 AM -0400 2000/6/26, Matt Heckaman wrote: > I don't know, 512M (2x256) of ECC RAM will cost me 2,200$ - that's an > awful nasty hit to be taking for what the server will do, which is a > generally nasty business called shell services. Ouch. That is quite a lot of money, but then a shell server is usually the sort of machine that gets pounded on the worst, and in the worst ways -- all sorts of bizarre things that users try, some of which are actively trying to break security and exceed their authorized level of access, others that are just curious about this new thing they just heard about, some who are just plain clueless, etc.... > In other words, there is > no single client paying thousands of dollars for web hosting of their > company's core page that will cost them (and me) a fortune for any > downtime :) Given this situation, I've a hard time justifying that cost, > which is only a few hundred dollars less then the *entire* machine is > going to cost me, especially for it's role :) You have to make that cost/benefit analysis for yourself, and it may well not be worth it for you. However, I'd encourage you to go look at the archive for -questions, and do a bit of research on how many times people have strange unexplained crashes, how often they claim it works just fine for them under Windows, and then try to figure out for yourself how many of these crashes are likely to be RAM-related. Myself, I'd put that number up pretty close to 100%. However, that's just my own personal opinion. Of course, once you figure out what percentage you'd give to that number, you then have to figure out what your "costs" are. There's your time debugging the problem, the amount of work lost by your customers multiplied by the number of customers and what their time is worth, the amount of money that you could have been bringing in that was otherwise wasted trying to fix the machine, the "cost" resulting from damage to your reputation, and the resulting loss of future business. I'm sure there's a lot of other hidden costs in there that I'm overlooking. I hope someone else will jump in here and help flesh out this list. Once you have a full list of all potential costs, you can then assign estimates to their values. Once you've done that, you can then compare that total cost to the cost of the ECC RAM, and you can figure out whether it really is worth it or not. Only you can make this decision. My experience is that it's usually not worth trying to go through and do a full cost/benefit analysis of having or not having ECC RAM. Instead, I err on the side of caution, and I specify ECC RAM everywhere, perhaps in some cases where it isn't strictly necessary. However, we do tend to re-utilize machines around here quite a lot, and although for one particular purpose ECC may not be a strict requirement, for another it might. It's better for us to not have to worry about whether or not a machine has ECC RAM, should we have an emergency that requires that we get a new machine up and running as quickly as possible. But your shop may be entirely different. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 5: 2: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27FA37BB3F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:01:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e5QC1t994289 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:01:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (root@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id OAA18763 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:01:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id OAA11145 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:01:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:01:53 +0200 From: Michel TALON To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Compatibility Question Message-ID: <20000626140153.A11131@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-STABLE References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:42:50AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:42:50AM -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > > : It's been my experience that when you start talking about > : significant amounts of RAM (anything over 128-256MB), you really, > : *really*, *REALLY* want to be using ECC. > > Interesting, I've always personally thought ECC to be somewhat overrated > and certaintly overpriced. Granted I do not have that much expierence in > comparison to some, but I have a machine here running 512M of non-ECC for > over a year now without any ram-related problems. (HD did die once though) Here in our lab, we have ~20 biprocessors doing heavy numerical computations with 512 Megs of non ECC memory. They work night and day, all days of the year without a single problem. Is the memory adding some entropy to the results? I don't know. -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 5: 6:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BCF37B57A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000626120629.NJIJ26299.relay02@chello.nl>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:29 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01209; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:46 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Brad Knowles , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Compatibility Question Message-ID: <20000626140646.B1179@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:42:50AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:42:50AM -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > > : It's been my experience that when you start talking about > : significant amounts of RAM (anything over 128-256MB), you really, > : *really*, *REALLY* want to be using ECC. > > Interesting, I've always personally thought ECC to be somewhat overrated > and certaintly overpriced. Granted I do not have that much expierence in No, it is underrated and overpriced. For real serious work that is. It obviously depends on what a memory related crash costs you.. -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 5:42:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lth2.k12.il.us (mail.lth2.k12.il.us [206.166.46.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9DC37B86F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us) Received: from hub (5.240.175.209.lth2.k12.il.us [209.175.240.5]) by mail.lth2.k12.il.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA30822; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:26:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000626074628.006cb1d8@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> X-Sender: dallen@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:46:28 -0500 To: Matt Heckaman From: "Douglas G. Allen" Subject: Re: Compatibility Question Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt, >Interesting, I've always personally thought ECC to be somewhat overrated >and certaintly overpriced. Granted I do not have that much expierence in >comparison to some, but I have a machine here running 512M of non-ECC for >over a year now without any ram-related problems. (HD did die once though) I'm moving all servers to ECC memory. I think if you were running True Parity (where the second number is divisible by 9), you'd be ok though - based upon my machine at home. >I don't know, 512M (2x256) of ECC RAM will cost me 2,200$ - that's an >awful nasty hit to be taking for what the server will do, which is a >generally nasty business called shell services. In other words, there is >no single client paying thousands of dollars for web hosting of their >company's core page that will cost them (and me) a fortune for any >downtime :) Given this situation, I've a hard time justifying that cost, >which is only a few hundred dollars less then the *entire* machine is >going to cost me, especially for it's role :) I suggest you go look at http://www.crucial.com for memory. It's Crucial's website, which means it's Micron memory. I think they had 256M ECC modules for the PowerEdge listed for about $500 a piece. I would say that the price you were quoted is rather high. Hope this helps with your questions. Doug Allen Tech Coordinator Regional Offices of Education #35 and #43 (LaSalle, Marshall, Putnam, and Woodford Counties Illinois) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 5:43:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D3E37B86F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:43:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136YET-000IEG-00; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:43:21 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: David Miller Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Announce: -stable commit lists In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 May 2000 07:52:09 -0400." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:43:20 +0200 Message-ID: <70075.962023400@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 30 May 2000 07:52:09 -0400, David Miller wrote: > I've setup freebsd-stable-3 and freebsd-stable-4 majordomo lists at > sparks.net. These use procmail to filter the RELENG_[3|4] messages out of > cvs-all, so one can easily tell which commits affect them. Are you using the new X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch mail header? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 5:48:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.205.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902A237BC3F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from marble ([216.54.255.8]) by sstar.com with SMTP (IPAD 2.52) id 2210600; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:48:28 -0500 Message-ID: <024301bfdf6c$d3e58680$08e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: "Matt Heckaman" , "Brad Knowles" Cc: "FreeBSD-STABLE" References: Subject: Re: Compatibility Question Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:48:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Heckaman" To: "Brad Knowles" Cc: "FreeBSD-STABLE" Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 6:42 AM Subject: Re: Compatibility Question Matt Heckaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > > : It's been my experience that when you start talking about > : significant amounts of RAM (anything over 128-256MB), you really, > : *really*, *REALLY* want to be using ECC. > > Interesting, I've always personally thought ECC to be somewhat overrated > and certaintly overpriced. Granted I do not have that much expierence in > comparison to some, but I have a machine here running 512M of non-ECC for > over a year now without any ram-related problems. (HD did die once though) > > ... > : Depending on what you're doing, how much down time results, how > : much your time costs per hour, and how much work is lost by all your > : customers, a single crash could cost you more than the ECC RAM that > : could have prevented that crash. > > I don't know, 512M (2x256) of ECC RAM will cost me 2,200$ - that's an > awful nasty hit to be taking for what the server will do, which is a > generally nasty business called shell services. In other words, there is > no single client paying thousands of dollars for web hosting of their > company's core page that will cost them (and me) a fortune for any > downtime :) Given this situation, I've a hard time justifying that cost, > which is only a few hundred dollars less then the *entire* machine is > going to cost me, especially for it's role :) Where are you buying your memory!? Crucial (http://www.crucial.com) has 2x256MB ECC registered SDRAM for about $800; I'm sure other places have similar (or better) prices. Well worth it, IMHO. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 5:53:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D4C437B54C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:53:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 2749 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jun 2000 12:53:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 12:53:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:53:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: "Douglas G. Allen" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Compatibility Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000626074628.006cb1d8@roe35.lth2.k12.il.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Douglas G. Allen wrote: ... : I suggest you go look at http://www.crucial.com for memory. It's Crucial's : website, which means it's Micron memory. I think they had 256M ECC modules : for the PowerEdge listed for about $500 a piece. I would say that the : price you were quoted is rather high. Sorry, I neglected to mention that the price I quoted was in Canadian dollars. Which roughly works out to, 1,400$ USD I'll look at that though. : Hope this helps with your questions. Yes, thanks :) : Doug Allen : Tech Coordinator : Regional Offices of Education : #35 and #43 : (LaSalle, Marshall, Putnam, and : Woodford Counties Illinois) : * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5V1JSdMMtMcA1U5ARAnWHAKCRf5M2HgaYHLP7uBYmFiOeifYAXACgxM2v 81LqnDTm0eTcui9rHX0L+rw= =UDln -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 6:24: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [213.188.21.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D9037B637 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: from localhost (localhost.flipp.net [127.0.0.1]) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00630 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:23:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:23:35 +0200 (CEST) From: "Morten A. Middelthon" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Serious stability problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently I've experienced stability problems with one of my 4.0-STABLE boxes. When it freezes/locks up I can still ping it, and I can change between virtual consoles, but everything else is dead. Ctrl-alt-del doesn't work, or any other input on the console, except for print-screen. As far as I can tell there are no messages in the logs or on the console telling me what's wrong. I just went through a 'make -j 4 world' with the source I updated a few days ago in single-user mode, and that seemed to work without any complaints. I've attached the dmesg-output, so I probably don't have to explain what hardware I've got. /usr and /home is using soft-updates. The box is running apache 1.3.12 + php4, lotsof screens with irc and pine/mutt, does email for a few domains, but doesn't have a significantly high load. Usually 10-20 users are logged in, via ssh. -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 6:30:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [213.188.21.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FC337B52A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:30:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: from localhost (localhost.flipp.net [127.0.0.1]) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00688 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:30:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:30:04 +0200 (CEST) From: "Morten A. Middelthon" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Serious stability problems (with my dmesg) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2116963308-962026204=:294" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2116963308-962026204=:294 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry, forgot the dmesg-output in my previous posting. Here it is. -- Morten A. 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starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B7387A84B; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:35:16 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50F95443; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:35:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:35:16 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Francisco Reyes Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable In-Reply-To: <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Francisco Reyes wrote: > When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number > of syntax errors and the last line reports: > > Specify machine type, e.g. ``machine vax'' I got this when I accidently cvsuped 3-STABLE rather than 4-STABLE on a 4.0-RELEASE box. Have you rebuilt config? Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 6:58: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relativity.student.utwente.nl (wit389306.student.utwente.nl [130.89.234.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F3737B61A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl) Received: by relativity.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5B6125DFA; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:58:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:58:22 +0200 From: Dave Boers To: Pete Fritchman Cc: Sean O'Connell , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lockups Message-ID: <20000626155822.A64634@relativity.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: djb@ifa.au.dk References: <20000622095416.A12684@databits.net> <20000622103039.E26292@stat.Duke.EDU> <20000622113947.A15589@databits.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000622113947.A15589@databits.net>; from petef@databits.net on Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:39:47AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:39:47AM -0500, Pete Fritchman wrote: > If it's up long enough, pretty high load. Once people get a chance to > get their processes back up, around 400-500 processes. The machine can > handle this though, it's a dual 550 MHz, with 768 MB ram. Is the machine by any chance an Abit BP6 with dual Celeron's? I recently solved my lockups (check the archives, also in the -smp list, for details) by slightly increasing the processor voltage. The machine was not overclocked, but it would crash at irregular intervals, with an average uptime of about 1 week. The lockups I got sound exactly the same as the ones you describe: not even Ctrl-Alt-Esc works. I increased the processor voltage from 2.00 to 2.05 volts in the bios and the problem has gone away. The Abit BP6 mainboards have a history of power stabilization problems. Hope this helps, Dave Boers. -- djb@ifa.au.dk d.j.boers@tn.utwente.nl PGP Key: ftp://relativity.student.utwente.nl/pub/pgpkeys/djb.asc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 7: 4:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E471E37B6F3 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Received: (from joe@localhost) by team7.cba.ualr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04828; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:04:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joe) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:04:01 -0500 From: Joe To: Francisco Reyes Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Message-ID: <20000626090401.A4590@team7.cba.ualr.edu> References: <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net>; from fran@reyes.somos.net on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:27:01AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:27:01AM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Following the instructions from UPDATING. > When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number > of syntax errors and the last line reports: > > Specify machine type, e.g. ``machine vax'' > > I tried to put single and double quotes to my "machine" line > with no luck. > The archives returned two questions on this and one answer > suggesting to put quotes which I already did. > > Francisco > I believe 4.x does not require quotes. Try without. -Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 7: 6:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.pair.com (relay1.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA54637B61A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:06:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@zoner.org) Received: (qmail 12255 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 14:02:43 -0000 Received: from kcmh13.kazoocmh.org (HELO tag1288.zoner.org) (206.31.240.158) by relay1.pair.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 14:02:43 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 206.31.240.158 Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000626095103.00ac5a70@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sniper@mail175.pair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:06:03 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: John Holland Subject: 4.0-Stable boot hangs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sunday, I did a fresh cvsup of RELENG_4, made and installed world and a new kernel. The reboot hangs at the point the old kernel gets to the two ed* devices (old Thomas Conrad NE2000 NICs). Before this, the system was working perfectly. Did something break in the ed driver in the two months since I last built the system from source? Here is the dmesg from the OLD, functioning kernel. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #1: Fri Jun 9 13:16:20 EDT 2000 toor@pippin.kazoocmh.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PIPPIN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 132632297 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.63-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 29941760 (29240K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.orig" at 0xc02d3000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 15.0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: on ppbus0 ed0 at port 0x320-0x33f iomem 0xd8000 irq 5 on isa0 ed0: address 00:80:13:c5:8c:25, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000 irq 3 on isa0 ed1: address 00:80:13:49:6c:e2, type NE2000 (16 bit) device_probe_and_attach: ex0 attach returned -1 IP Filter: v3.4.4 initialized. Default = block all, Logging = enabled ad0: 1033MB [2100/16/63] at ata0-master using WDMA2 ad1: 1549MB [3148/16/63] at ata0-slave using WDMA2 acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 7:28:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8689D37B792 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:28:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 3510 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jun 2000 14:28:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 14:28:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:28:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Compatibility Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: : : Ouch. That is quite a lot of money, but then a shell server is : usually the sort of machine that gets pounded on the worst, and in : the worst ways -- all sorts of bizarre things that users try, some of : which are actively trying to break security and exceed their : authorized level of access, others that are just curious about this : new thing they just heard about, some who are just plain clueless, : etc.... Yep tell me about it. ... : Once you have a full list of all potential costs, you can then : assign estimates to their values. Once you've done that, you can : then compare that total cost to the cost of the ECC RAM, and you can : figure out whether it really is worth it or not. I think that since this is a leasing deal, the price of ECC ram sounded alot more scary then it really is. When it comes down to monthly cost, it's rather nominal in my opinion. : But your shop may be entirely different. It is, but your practice is very sound. After all the discussion that has been going on here in private e-mail, I've decided to go for the ECC mem once I figured out that it wasn't really that bad when done with a lease which is how we were going to do the server anyways :) Thanks for your advice and suggestions. : -- : These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy : ====================================================================== : Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV : Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 : Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels : http://www.skynet.be || Belgium : * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5V2iUdMMtMcA1U5ARAiQiAKCTB/wpJ0jmodwxGxYKO7VTm+vm5ACfXnuS RAuTqcPHsyndRXnInRk8aX0= =KWO2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 7:36:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682D537B7DA for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA61018; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:36:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karelj) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:36:23 +0200 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: John Holland Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-Stable boot hangs Message-ID: <20000626163623.A60970@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> Reply-To: K.J.Bosschaart@tue.nl References: <4.3.1.0.20000626095103.00ac5a70@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20000626095103.00ac5a70@pop.mindspring.com>; from john@zoner.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:06:03AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:06:03AM -0400, John Holland wrote: > Sunday, I did a fresh cvsup of RELENG_4, made and installed world and a new > kernel. The reboot hangs at the point the old kernel gets to the two ed* > devices (old Thomas Conrad NE2000 NICs). Before this, the system was > working perfectly. > > Did something break in the ed driver in the two months since I last built > the system from source? > On 06/17 there was a change in sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c, which causes my ISA NE2000 compatible to hang at boot time, just like in your case. I contacted Paul Saab, who commited the change, about it and hope he will have a solution. As a quick workaround, you might try replacing if_ed.c with an 'old' one and recompile your kernel. I didn't try this myself. Instead I replaced my ISA NIC with a PCI NIC (also using ed0...) which works fine. If you go into config mode during boot and disable the ed driver the system will boot again - without network of course :-(. (The change in if_ed.c had to do with probing newer cards). Karel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 7:36:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luxren2.boostworks.com (luxren2.boostworks.com [194.167.81.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8A037B7FE for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@boostworks.com) Received: from boostworks.com (root@oldrn.luxdev.boostworks.com [192.168.1.99]) by luxren2.boostworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA10618 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:36:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200006261436.QAA10618@luxren2.boostworks.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:36:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Remy Nonnenmacher Reply-To: remy@boostworks.com Subject: Fixing PCI device locations To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently upgraded a server from 3.4 to 4-stable and was hurted by the PCI device scanning not done in the same order on the two versions. Mainly, the server have 6 SCSI busses over 3 devices and two PCI busses. (da0 on 3.4 ended up on da52 under 4-stable) While provisions are made for fixing SCSI controlers to busses (ieg: ahc to scbus) and disks to scbuses, is there a way to fix SCSI controlers to PCI locations ? (something like "device ahc0 on pci0.11.1") Thanks. RN. ItM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 7:40:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.pair.com (relay1.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E547237B97C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@zoner.org) Received: (qmail 8441 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 14:36:51 -0000 Received: from kcmh13.kazoocmh.org (HELO tag1288.zoner.org) (206.31.240.158) by relay1.pair.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 14:36:51 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 206.31.240.158 Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000626103947.00aa2c20@mail175.pair.com> X-Sender: sniper@mail175.pair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:40:30 -0400 To: K.J.Bosschaart@tue.nl From: John Holland Subject: Re: 4.0-Stable boot hangs Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000626163623.A60970@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> References: <4.3.1.0.20000626095103.00ac5a70@pop.mindspring.com> <4.3.1.0.20000626095103.00ac5a70@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:36 PM 6/26/00 +0200, Karel J. Bosschaart wrote: >On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:06:03AM -0400, John Holland wrote: > > Sunday, I did a fresh cvsup of RELENG_4, made and installed world and a > new > > kernel. The reboot hangs at the point the old kernel gets to the two ed* > > devices (old Thomas Conrad NE2000 NICs). Before this, the system was > > working perfectly. > > > > Did something break in the ed driver in the two months since I last built > > the system from source? > > >On 06/17 there was a change in sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c, which causes my ISA >NE2000 compatible to hang at boot time, just like in your case. I contacted >Paul Saab, who commited the change, about it and hope he will have a >solution. As a quick workaround, you might try replacing if_ed.c with an >'old' one and recompile your kernel. I didn't try this myself. Instead >I replaced my ISA NIC with a PCI NIC (also using ed0...) which works fine. >If you go into config mode during boot and disable the ed driver the system >will boot again - without network of course :-(. >(The change in if_ed.c had to do with probing newer cards). Thanks. That's exactly what I needed to know. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 7:51:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77B7237B692 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 2345 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 14:51:36 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 14:51:36 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17878; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:51:34 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 From: Harry Putnam Date: 26 Jun 2000 07:51:31 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think this is a continueing problem since my first brush with bsd some mnths ago with 3.2-RELEASE. Quit playing with it for several mnths and now installed from 4.0-STABLE snap 06/24 I still see unwanted and seemingly random highlighting when opening man pages with `more', lots of it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 7:55:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EE137B692 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:55:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525E1137FC8 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA47700; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:55:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14679.28368.157426.659715@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:55:12 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Almost serial consoles. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While we have for some time used serial consoles from realweasel.com, we are faced with a number of server motherboards without ISA slots. I found it fairly easy to get the kernel to boot against the serial console and there is an option in the kernel config to set the console speed. It is also possible to set console="comconsole" in /boot/loader.conf, but I can't see a setting for the serial speed. Is that possible? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 8: 6:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.uninet.ee (ns.uninet.ee [194.204.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3329537B880 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauri@inspiral.net) Received: from puu.mbp.ee (parnu-isdn-22.uninet.ee [194.204.43.86]) by ns.uninet.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B342582D for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:05:48 +0200 (EET) From: "Lauri Laupmaa" Organization: Inspiral.Net To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:03:23 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: TZ info for Europe/Tallinn fix ? Message-ID: <39578CDB.4659.A7B17@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi When were Timezone definitions last updated in 4.0-STABLE ? TIA L. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 8:16: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76B937B81D for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:15:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.9.3/1.13) id SAA29426; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:15:29 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:15:29 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TZ info for Europe/Tallinn fix ? Message-ID: <20000626181529.B29160@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Lauri Laupmaa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <39578CDB.4659.A7B17@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39578CDB.4659.A7B17@localhost>; from mauri@inspiral.net on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 05:03:23PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 05:03:23PM +0300, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > Hi > > When were Timezone definitions last updated in 4.0-STABLE ? > Once again :-) : ru 2000/04/05 11:19:34 PDT : Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) : share/zoneinfo africa antarctica asia australasia : backward europe leapseconds northamerica : southamerica zone.tab : Log: : MFC: New timezone data from ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2000d.tar.gz : Revision Changes Path : 1.10.2.1 +31 -36 src/share/zoneinfo/africa : 1.1.2.6.2.1 +67 -31 src/share/zoneinfo/antarctica : 1.14.2.1 +172 -85 src/share/zoneinfo/asia : 1.14.2.1 +303 -159 src/share/zoneinfo/australasia : 1.1.2.4.2.1 +5 -1 src/share/zoneinfo/backward : 1.18.2.1 +260 -773 src/share/zoneinfo/europe : 1.4.2.1 +4 -2 src/share/zoneinfo/leapseconds : 1.14.2.1 +165 -67 src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica : 1.12.2.1 +178 -168 src/share/zoneinfo/southamerica : 1.4.2.1 +25 -13 src/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 9: 4:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7225937B96B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:04:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06123; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA15390; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200006261604.JAA15390@vashon.polstra.com> To: kstewart@3-cities.com Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move In-Reply-To: <3954F25F.C93C2E46@3-cities.com> References: <200006241347.JAA40114@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000624.15140700@bartequi.ottodomain.org> <3954F25F.C93C2E46@3-cities.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <3954F25F.C93C2E46@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart wrote: > > Re-cvsuping will not help. You have to unlink the two files. Cvsup > doesn't know how to deal with links. It doesn't deal properly with links *in checkout mode* when somebody has created a link between two filenames, both of which CVSup thinks it is supposed to be managing. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 9: 7:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F24337B961 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5QG7KE59341; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:07:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Gregory Bond Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI adv SCSI card being probed twice? In-Reply-To: <200006260142.LAA26736@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Gregory Bond wrote: > > Yes, it's standard combined ISA/PCI driver functionality. The ed driver > > does it too. > > I gather I can ignore it? The question I don't understand is why this > behaviour didn't occur in the GENERIC kernel? Yes, it's a byproduct of how the minor numbers are allocated. ISA devices have to use a fixed minor number, so it reserves minor 0, and self-configuring buses (like PCI) use numbers above that, in this case 1. If you want it to act like GENERIC then copy the config line out of GENERIC. > > (although if you compile it in as > > > > device adv0 > > > > it might squelch the ISA probe). > > Tried that. It just made the bogus one "adv2" instead! Erm, remove the ISA probe, then add that line. :-) Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 9:12:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F1837B975 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFEF137FE2 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA55621; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:12:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14679.32995.463702.841570@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:12:19 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Panic with 20 dc ports and ifconfig -a X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It appears to be repeatable that I can panic the machine after some amount of running by typing ifconfig -a on a machine with 20 dc ports. I am compiling the machine with a debug kernel and a crash dump to attempt to isolate the issue, but the initial info is as follows (and any ideas would be appretiated)...: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x308038e6 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0007078 stack pointer = 0x10:0xd7110de4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xd7110e58 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 1735 (ifconfig) interrupt mask = none trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 4 1 done Uptime: 3h4m12s Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 9:12:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5FA37B8ED for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5QGCnj73034; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:12:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Chris Wasser Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S In-Reply-To: <20000625090856.A96022@area51.v-wave.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Chris Wasser wrote: > Whenever I use these cards @ 100base-T full duplex (although it's > significantly less pronounced in the tulip) transferring a 7GB tarball > (my test file) across a switched full-dupe network, I always end up > with: > > dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold > xl0: transmission error: 90 > You have some device on your PCI bus (usually video) hogging the bus too much. This is a common problem on high-usage network cards. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 9:19: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616E737BA47 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:18:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5QGIcR90613; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:18:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Remy Nonnenmacher Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixing PCI device locations In-Reply-To: <200006261436.QAA10618@luxren2.boostworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Remy Nonnenmacher wrote: > > I recently upgraded a server from 3.4 to 4-stable and was hurted by the > PCI device scanning not done in the same order on the two versions. > > Mainly, the server have 6 SCSI busses over 3 devices and two PCI > busses. (da0 on 3.4 ended up on da52 under 4-stable) > > While provisions are made for fixing SCSI controlers to busses (ieg: ahc > to scbus) and disks to scbuses, is there a way to fix SCSI controlers > to PCI locations ? > > (something like "device ahc0 on pci0.11.1") Not at this time, but it may appear at some time in the future, given an enterprising individual. A great many people, including embedded systems builders, would be thankful for such a feature. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 9:31:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83F937B9DB for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:31:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09952; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39578546.FC755B1C@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:31:02 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0603 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Larsson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startup issues after mergemaster (SOLVED) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Larsson wrote: > > | > > The problem disappeared after a second run of mergemaster > > Thanks! No problem... good news. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 10:15:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6617337BA7A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.34]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:16:29 -0700 Message-ID: <39578F8A.1C027CF2@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:14:50 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Polstra Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move References: <200006241347.JAA40114@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000624.15140700@bartequi.ottodomain.org> <3954F25F.C93C2E46@3-cities.com> <200006261604.JAA15390@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > > In article <3954F25F.C93C2E46@3-cities.com>, > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > Re-cvsuping will not help. You have to unlink the two files. Cvsup > > doesn't know how to deal with links. > > It doesn't deal properly with links *in checkout mode* when somebody > has created a link between two filenames, both of which CVSup thinks > it is supposed to be managing. The only problem is that people will not typically see cvsup having problems checking out the two files. I just happened to see the messages flash by on the screen. If they only update infrequently, the messages could always be off of the screen and they won't see them. I timed it last night and a cvsup of 4.0-Stable from cvsup7.freebsd.org to get the two new files on my 3rd system required just over 5 minutes. When I finally endup on a DSL, it should be even better. Cheers, Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 10:24:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA02D37B70C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:24:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.34]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:26:03 -0700 Message-ID: <395791C9.121D5D32@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:24:25 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francisco Reyes Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable References: <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Francisco Reyes wrote: > > Following the instructions from UPDATING. > When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number > of syntax errors and the last line reports: > > Specify machine type, e.g. ``machine vax'' I think the only supported cpu's are alpha and i386. I use i386. Kent > > I tried to put single and double quotes to my "machine" line > with no luck. > The archives returned two questions on this and one answer > suggesting to put quotes which I already did. > > Francisco > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 11:59:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CA737BB63 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.91.224]) by mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000626185937.DOUD381.mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:59:37 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01310; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:59:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:59:36 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Harry Putnam Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 Message-ID: <20000626195936.G232@parish> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:51:31AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:51:31AM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > > I think this is a continueing problem since my first brush with bsd > some mnths ago with 3.2-RELEASE. Quit playing with it for several > mnths and now installed from 4.0-STABLE snap 06/24 > > I still see unwanted and seemingly random highlighting when opening > man pages with `more', lots of it. > You mean doing ``man | more''? There is no need to use more(1) man(1) pages automatically (using more(1) unless $PAGER is set to something else. What exactly do you mean by "seemingly random highlighting" and is this in an xterm or the console. If it's the latter it is because there is no settings for underlining in the termcap entry for cons25. I can let you know how to change this if that is the problem. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 12:19:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBE3137BC02 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 16410 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2000 19:19:22 -0000 Received: from p3ee0b318.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.224.179.24) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 19:19:22 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26531 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:49:20 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:49:20 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: startup issues after mergemaster Message-ID: <20000626194920.J9883@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <39570DA1.27D98698@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dl@tyfon.net on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:21:32AM +0200 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:21 +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: > | Dan Larsson wrote: > | > > | > After doing a mergemaster of configuration files in /etc > | > this morning (2000/06/26 08:00 CEST) the system fails to > | > read /etc/rc.conf completely (stops after reading the top > | > 3 lines, which are nic configparams). > | > | What clued you in to it stopping at exactly that point? > > On line four I have 'portmap_enable="NO"'. This as all the > following lines are ignored. This sounds very much like an unterminated string -- the ticks / quotes are opened but never closed. This way the assignment continues till the EOF. And the RHS is somewhat defective. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 12:34:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9081637BCE8 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:34:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 17730 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 19:34:10 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 19:34:10 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19360; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:34:09 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> From: Harry Putnam In-Reply-To: Mark Ovens's message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:59:36 +0100" Date: 26 Jun 2000 12:34:04 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 78 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens writes: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:51:31AM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > > I think this is a continueing problem since my first brush with bsd > > some mnths ago with 3.2-RELEASE. Quit playing with it for several > > mnths and now installed from 4.0-STABLE snap 06/24 > > > > I still see unwanted and seemingly random highlighting when opening > > man pages with `more', lots of it. > > > > You mean doing ``man | more''? There is no need to use > more(1) man(1) pages automatically (using more(1) unless $PAGER is set > to something else. No, I mean in the normal way a manpage is viewed like: `man vi'. Apparently `more' is the default man page viewer since this is a brandnew install and I'v made almost no changes yet. I don't see any problems when using more like: `more file' or dmesg|more > > What exactly do you mean by "seemingly random highlighting" and is > this in an xterm or the console. If it's the latter it is because By random I mean I see no pattern to what is being highlighted. In console mode ( I don't have X setup yet) and with stock new install env settings. (echo $TERM cons25) Examples: (Using "*" to indicate highlights) man vi shows: VI(1) VI(1) NAME ex, vi, view - text editors SYNOPSIS ex [-eFGRrSsv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] vi [-eFGlRrSv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] view [-eFGRrSv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] [NOTE -ed some of the stuff in brackets but not all] Lots more through out the page. man emacs: EMACS(1) EMACS(1) NAME emacs - GNU project Emacs SYNOPSIS emacs [ *command-line* *switches* ] [ *files* *...* ] DESCRIPTION *GNU* *Emacs* is a version of *Emacs*, written by the author of the original (PDP-10) *Emacs*, Richard Stallman. The primary documentation of GNU Emacs is in the GNU Emacs Manual, which you can read on line using Info, a subsystem of Emacs. Please look there for complete and up-to-date [NOTE: In the synopsis area everything inside brackets is individually highligted with unhighlited space beteen. In the Description part, line one and two have the indicated highlites (Emacs) but not elsewhere in that paragraph... That is what I mean by `seemingly Random'] > there is no settings for underlining in the termcap entry for cons25. > I can let you know how to change this if that is the problem. Sounds like it is, but not sure why underlining would occur in such a random way either. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 12:58:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F3937BAE3 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:58:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.87.178]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000626195826.YOUK290.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:26 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01517; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:28 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Harry Putnam Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 Message-ID: <20000626205828.I232@parish> References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 12:34:04PM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 12:34:04PM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Ovens writes: > > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:51:31AM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > > > > I think this is a continueing problem since my first brush with bsd > > > some mnths ago with 3.2-RELEASE. Quit playing with it for several > > > mnths and now installed from 4.0-STABLE snap 06/24 > > > > > > I still see unwanted and seemingly random highlighting when opening > > > man pages with `more', lots of it. > > > > > > > You mean doing ``man | more''? There is no need to use > > more(1) man(1) pages automatically (using more(1) unless $PAGER is set > > to something else. > > No, I mean in the normal way a manpage is viewed like: > `man vi'. Apparently `more' is the default man page viewer since this > is a brandnew install and I'v made almost no changes yet. > > I don't see any problems when using more like: `more file' > or dmesg|more > > > > > What exactly do you mean by "seemingly random highlighting" and is > > this in an xterm or the console. If it's the latter it is because > > By random I mean I see no pattern to what is being highlighted. > > In console mode ( I don't have X setup yet) and with stock new install > env settings. (echo $TERM cons25) > > Examples: (Using "*" to indicate highlights) > man vi shows: > > VI(1) VI(1) > > NAME > ex, vi, view - text editors > > SYNOPSIS > ex [-eFGRrSsv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] Right, if you look at the output from man(1) you will see that this text appears as c^Hcm^Hmd^Hd etc. It's backspacing and repeating the chars which would give bold on a printer (one that could backspace). The interpretation of this is controlled jointly by more(1) and the termcap entry for cons25. In an xterm it appears as bold text. Here is a reply I made to almost the same question ~6 months ago, hopefully it will help you. Note that termcap is traditionally in /etc but in FreeBSD /etc/termcap is a symlink to /usr/share/misc/termcap. You *must* run cap_mkdb in /usr/share/misc/, not /etc. --------- begin included message ------------ Actually, it's a combination of the function of the pager *and* the termcap entry for that terminal. The text that appears in inverse video on the console is underlined (f^H_o^H_o^H_ in the output from man(1)) and appears as such in an xterm. The termcap(5) entry for the console (cons25) has no underline attributes defined and in /usr/src/usr.bin/more/screen.c if there is no underline attribute defined for the terminal it uses "standout mode", i.e. inverse video. If Alexey wants underlining to appear as yellow on black as he says then in /usr/share/misc/termcap change the line :tc=cons25w: in the definition of cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ to :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: ^^ ^^ || fg colour || bg colour then, as root, run ``cd /usr/share/misc ; cap_mkdb termcap'' and then try ``man chmod'' on the console. For a visual "list" of colour combinations, run this script (the numbers along the top of the display are the bg colours and the ones at the left are the fg colours): #!/bin/sh # Display ANSI colours. # esc="\033[" echo -e "\t 40\t 41\t 42\t 43\t 44 45\t46\t 47" for fore in 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37; do line1="$fore " line2=" " for back in 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47; do line1="${line1}${esc}${back};${fore}m Normal ${esc}0m" line2="${line2}${esc}${back};${fore};1m Bold ${esc}0m" done echo -e "$line1\n$line2" done HTH ------ end included message ---------- > vi [-eFGlRrSv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] > view [-eFGRrSv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] > > [NOTE -ed some of the stuff in brackets but not all] > Lots more through out the page. > > man emacs: > > EMACS(1) EMACS(1) > > NAME > emacs - GNU project Emacs > > SYNOPSIS > emacs [ *command-line* *switches* ] [ *files* *...* ] > > DESCRIPTION > *GNU* *Emacs* is a version of *Emacs*, written by the author of > the original (PDP-10) *Emacs*, Richard Stallman. > The primary documentation of GNU Emacs is in the GNU Emacs > Manual, which you can read on line using Info, a subsystem > of Emacs. Please look there for complete and up-to-date > > [NOTE: In the synopsis area everything inside brackets is individually > highligted with unhighlited space beteen. In the Description part, > line one and two have the indicated highlites (Emacs) but not elsewhere > in that paragraph... That is what I mean by `seemingly Random'] > > > there is no settings for underlining in the termcap entry for cons25. > > I can let you know how to change this if that is the problem. > > Sounds like it is, but not sure why underlining would occur in such > a random way either. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 12:59: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.dsl.visi.com (kirk.dsl.visi.com [209.98.248.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BDF37BCB3 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dsl.visi.com) Received: from localhost (dgl@localhost) by kirk.dsl.visi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12839; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:58:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dsl.visi.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:58:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Doug Lee To: Harry Putnam Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, this highlighting is not random; what you are seeing highlighted is what the original man page put in italic. Notice that, in both your examples, the parts of the "SYNOPSIS" section which were highlighted are the WORDS (not lists of option letters) which specify a category for what should be typed there ("cmd" for a command, etc.). In the Emacs man page sample you sent, "GNU Emacs" is highlighted in the man page's source exactly where you see it highlighted in your display, and the highlighting of Emacs only at the beginning of the paragraph, as well as the non-highlighting of spaces between GNU and Emacs, are results of the way the page was written. So the issue boils down to whether you want to see italic as highlighting. If not, I'm sure there's a way to prevent it. I'm using TERM=vt102, and I don't see any highlighting at all. -- Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl On 26 Jun 2000, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Ovens writes: > > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:51:31AM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > > > > I think this is a continueing problem since my first brush with bsd > > > some mnths ago with 3.2-RELEASE. Quit playing with it for several > > > mnths and now installed from 4.0-STABLE snap 06/24 > > > > > > I still see unwanted and seemingly random highlighting when opening > > > man pages with `more', lots of it. > > > > > > > You mean doing ``man | more''? There is no need to use > > more(1) man(1) pages automatically (using more(1) unless $PAGER is set > > to something else. > > No, I mean in the normal way a manpage is viewed like: > `man vi'. Apparently `more' is the default man page viewer since this > is a brandnew install and I'v made almost no changes yet. > > I don't see any problems when using more like: `more file' > or dmesg|more > > > > > What exactly do you mean by "seemingly random highlighting" and is > > this in an xterm or the console. If it's the latter it is because > > By random I mean I see no pattern to what is being highlighted. > > In console mode ( I don't have X setup yet) and with stock new install > env settings. (echo $TERM cons25) > > Examples: (Using "*" to indicate highlights) > man vi shows: > > VI(1) VI(1) > > NAME > ex, vi, view - text editors > > SYNOPSIS > ex [-eFGRrSsv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] > vi [-eFGlRrSv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] > view [-eFGRrSv] [-c *cmd*] [-t *tag*] [-w *size*] [file ...] > > [NOTE -ed some of the stuff in brackets but not all] > Lots more through out the page. > > man emacs: > > EMACS(1) EMACS(1) > > NAME > emacs - GNU project Emacs > > SYNOPSIS > emacs [ *command-line* *switches* ] [ *files* *...* ] > > DESCRIPTION > *GNU* *Emacs* is a version of *Emacs*, written by the author of > the original (PDP-10) *Emacs*, Richard Stallman. > The primary documentation of GNU Emacs is in the GNU Emacs > Manual, which you can read on line using Info, a subsystem > of Emacs. Please look there for complete and up-to-date > > [NOTE: In the synopsis area everything inside brackets is individually > highligted with unhighlited space beteen. In the Description part, > line one and two have the indicated highlites (Emacs) but not elsewhere > in that paragraph... That is what I mean by `seemingly Random'] > > > there is no settings for underlining in the termcap entry for cons25. > > I can let you know how to change this if that is the problem. > > Sounds like it is, but not sure why underlining would occur in such > a random way either. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 13:10:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F92537BC76 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07385; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:10:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA16075; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200006262010.NAA16075@vashon.polstra.com> To: clefevre@citeweb.net Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs update failed In-Reply-To: <200006260319.FAA29083@gits.dyndns.org> References: <200006260319.FAA29083@gits.dyndns.org> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200006260319.FAA29083@gits.dyndns.org>, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > the problem I have, is that, when I run "cvs -t update -r RELENG_4", > I got the following message (last 4 lines) : [...] > cvs update: notice: main loop with CVSROOT=anoncvs@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot > -> Starting server: rsh anoncvs.netbsd.org -l anoncvs cvs server > anoncvs.netbsd.org: Connection refused > cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) > > what's happen ? Either your CVSROOT environment variable is set incorrectly, or you have a "CVS/Root" file somewhere in your tree that contains the wrong value. The value listed is for NetBSD, and the NetBSD server doesn't even like it. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 13:56:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE7737B542 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000626205729.NHHP159.relay01@chello.nl> for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:57:29 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00551 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:56:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:56:29 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: microuptime() going backwards Message-ID: <20000626225629.A525@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just got tons and tons of Jun 26 22:06:33 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,199762) Jun 26 22:06:34 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,210275) (approx 10Mb worth of them). This was during a mpeg video playing operation. FreeBSD freebie.wbnet 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat Jun 24 16:52:41 CEST 2000 root@freebie.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE i386 System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. Any idea what is causing this? -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 15:31:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vivaldi.pn.npi.msu.ru (gw.pn.npi.msu.ru [193.232.127.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E70437B814 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from svysh@pn.sinp.msu.ru) Received: from handel.pn.sinp.msu.ru (handel [195.208.223.24]) (authenticated) by vivaldi.pn.npi.msu.ru (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e5QMV9W07627 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:31:10 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000627022543.00ab0cc0@vivaldi> X-Sender: svysh@vivaldi (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:34:04 +0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Sergei Vyshenski Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available for x86 In-Reply-To: <890.961896181@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So FreeBSD has two stable branches? Which one is more stable among stable for i386? Say for use at a site that need reliable round-the-clock gatewaing, named and mail operation? Thanks in advance for any comment. Sergei At 18:23 24.06.00 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >I'm pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE, the very >LAST in 3.x-STABLE branch technology. Following the release of FreeBSD 3.4 >in December, 1999, many bugs were fixed, important security issues dealt >with, and even a few new features added. Please see the release notes >for more information. > >This release will only be done for the i386 architecture. If you >want to run FreeBSD on the Alpha architecture, please install >4.0-RELEASE - it's much better suited for that platform. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 16: 5:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netcom.com (netcom15.netcom.com [199.183.9.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C116037BD55 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@netcom.com) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by netcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16150 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Stan Brown Message-Id: <200006262303.QAA16150@netcom.com> Subject: HELP PLEAS! with Oracle install! To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable List) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:03:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been posting this to various FreebSD lsit for several days with no useful replies. Could someone _PLEASE_ give me a clue here? I am trying to install Oralce on 4.0 STABEL. I have read teh Handbook section on this and done everythign it recomends. This includes seting up an Oracle use with a shell of /ccompat/linux/bin/bash. Now, whne I try to run the installer, I get an error message that says esentiallly that /usr/local/jre/bin/jre is not found. Now I think this must be tje Java Runtime Environment. Since I am runing in a Linux compatabilty shell. I belive the file it is really looking for is /compat/linux/usr/local/jre/bin/jre. I have istalled the jre jdk, and linux-jdk ports, all to no vail. Could someone _PLESE_ explain what I am doing wrong? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer (c) 1998 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 16: 6:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD1637BD92 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:06:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA81365; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:06:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:06:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Sergei Vyshenski Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available for x86 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000627022543.00ab0cc0@vivaldi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Sergei Vyshenski wrote: >So FreeBSD has two stable branches? >Which one is more stable among stable for i386? >Say for use at a site that need reliable round-the-clock >gatewaing, named and mail operation? > >Thanks in advance for any comment. >Sergei Sergei, FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE is meant as a support release for those still using 3.x in production environments. It is highly recommended that all new installations use FreeBSD 4.0 as it has more features and will be supported by the project further into the future. 4.0 has been battle tested by the folks at Yahoo! and is ready for mission critical deployments. You'll be much happier in the long run if you install 4.0. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 16:17:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-216-102-91-184.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-216-102-91-184.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.91.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB53237B94C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwsung@Sung.org) Received: from win95.sung.org (win95.Sung.org [192.168.255.2]) by adsl-216-102-91-184.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16695; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwsung@Sung.org) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000626161155.00cebef0@sung.org> X-Sender: web714e9@sung.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:16:30 -0700 To: Stan Brown From: Christian Sung Subject: Re: HELP PLEAS! with Oracle install! Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable List) In-Reply-To: <200006262303.QAA16150@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stan, I haven't heard of "Oralce," nor am I aware of the "4.0 STABEL" release of FreeBSD. If I were you, I'd start by carefully checking the spelling of the installation script(s) and/or command lines you're using--specially if you wrote them. You'd be surprised at what may be lurking there... ;-) At 07:03 PM 6/26/00 -0400, Stan Brown wrote: > I have been posting this to various FreebSD lsit for several days > with > no useful replies. > > Could someone _PLEASE_ give me a clue here? > > I am trying to install Oralce on 4.0 STABEL. I have read teh Handbook > section on this and done everythign it recomends. > > This includes seting up an Oracle use with a shell of > /ccompat/linux/bin/bash. > > Now, whne I try to run the installer, I get an error message that > says > esentiallly that /usr/local/jre/bin/jre is not found. Now I think > this > must be tje Java Runtime Environment. Since I am runing in a Linux > compatabilty shell. I belive the file it is really looking for is > /compat/linux/usr/local/jre/bin/jre. > > I have istalled the jre jdk, and linux-jdk ports, all to no vail. > > Could someone _PLESE_ explain what I am doing wrong? > >-- >Stan >Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 >Factory Automation Systems >Atlanta Ga. >-- >Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! >Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer >(c) 1998 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 16:42:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C487437B9C6 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 517 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 23:42:15 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 23:42:15 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19952; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:42:09 -0700 To: Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> From: Harry Putnam In-Reply-To: Mark Ovens's message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:28 +0100" Date: 26 Jun 2000 16:42:09 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens writes: > If Alexey wants underlining to appear as yellow on black as he says > then in /usr/share/misc/termcap change the line > > :tc=cons25w: > > in the definition of > > cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ > > to > > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: > ^^ ^^ > || fg colour > || > bg colour > > then, as root, run ``cd /usr/share/misc ; cap_mkdb termcap'' and then > try ``man chmod'' on the console. > > For a visual "list" of colour combinations, run this script (the > numbers along the top of the display are the bg colours and the ones > at the left are the fg colours): Good info here, I'm still bogged down trying to get a network up on a laptop with FreeBSD so getting tired of the obnoxious highlighting since I'm pooring thru manpages constantly right now. Not that familiar with FreeBSD and its just enough different from Linux that most tools don't act quite the same. Doug Writes: > So the issue boils down to whether you want to see italic as > highlighting. If not, I'm sure there's a way to prevent it. I'm using > TERM=vt102, and I don't see any highlighting at all. Thanks Doug, thats a quick fix for now... Mark has posted a full blown way to fix it permanently. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 17:52:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.wetworks.org (shell.wetworks.org [63.160.175.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D39D37B9D4 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:52:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abc@shell.wetworks.org) Received: (qmail 35033 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Jun 2000 00:52:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:52:18 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pcmcia fails to identify cards (4.0-stable cvsup 2000-06-26) Message-ID: <20000626205218.A34624@shell.wetworks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First off, a previous 4.0 (closer to release) worked with the same hardware (both PC-Card [wavelan wi0] and isa/pcic card). The kernel has PNPBIOS turned on and there don't seem to be any I/O or IRQ conflicts. The system finds the ISA/PCIC device during boot: pcic0: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 from: device pcic0 at isa? device pcic1 at isa? device card but, when I attempt to run pccardd, it always complains with: Jun 26 20:28:36 i pccardd[50]: No card in database for "(null)"("(null)") no matter what card I insert. a 'pccardc dumpcis' appears to be dumping random data.. {i 94} pccardc dumpcis Code 161 not found Code 161 not found code Unknown ignored Code 137 not found Code 137 not found code Unknown ignored Code 219 not found Code 219 not found code Unknown ignored Code 87 not found Code 87 not found code Unknown ignored Code 90 not found Code 90 not found code Unknown ignored Code 90 not found Code 90 not found code Unknown ignored Code 198 not found Code 198 not found code Unknown ignored Code 131 not found Code 131 not found code Unknown ignored Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 37 000: 02 a3 5a 45 a3 5a 06 5a 00 00 36 25 4c e8 21 c4 010: 89 f6 7e 1b 74 8b f8 db 00 46 74 c7 c6 01 ff f6 020: 76 ff 04 44 83 Tuple #2, code = 0x6 (Long link to next chain for MFC), length = 126 000: 07 2f 7e 01 29 46 00 eb 8b fc 46 74 6a ff f8 76 010: e8 00 c4 ff fc 46 3b b8 72 83 f4 0f 8d 5f c9 55 020: ec 57 7e 83 c0 00 25 f6 19 de e3 8b 06 c0 d8 46 030: 89 b8 56 26 59 3b b8 72 eb 8b c1 04 46 03 03 8b 040: 08 87 5a e8 00 5f 5d 55 ec 57 56 8b e0 39 74 74 050: 8b c1 04 b8 8b 8b c1 03 cc 8b 80 d0 7d 00 03 0c 060: 83 08 74 80 02 7d 00 03 0c 83 0c 74 80 08 7d 00 070: 03 0c 8b 03 8b 74 89 04 5d 8a 7e 88 02 45 Function 0: common memory, address 0x4629017e Function 1: attribute memory, address 0x46fc8beb Function 2: common memory, address 0x76f8ff6a Function 3: common memory, address 0xfcffc400 Function 4: common memory, address 0x8372b83b Function 5: common memory, address 0xc95f8d0f Function 6: common memory, address 0x837e57ec Tuple #3, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 6 000: 5e c3 8b 56 f6 de Tuple #4, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 183 000: 29 ff 04 26 83 06 83 08 e8 06 57 00 5d c8 00 56 010: 83 c4 00 28 10 f0 59 50 68 00 00 81 83 08 36 dc 020: 59 50 68 00 00 6d 83 08 46 00 e9 00 1e 57 87 01 030: 46 75 8b fe 65 50 ae 59 56 89 f8 ff 30 1e 57 bf 040: 01 75 68 00 0c 1e 57 87 01 94 50 84 59 d8 c2 8a 050: c4 f8 df 88 47 ff 76 c4 f8 df c6 00 83 83 c4 00 060: 7c 24 68 57 00 76 ff e0 e8 9d c4 89 fc 7e 00 53 070: 46 05 00 e8 e8 89 fa 46 8b fe db 87 25 00 06 57 080: bf 00 0e 5e 03 8a 82 26 47 47 ff 76 bf 00 0e 5e 090: 03 8a 82 26 47 47 ff 76 eb 8b fe db 87 25 00 46 0a0: 8b fe 06 5b 82 ff 3e 57 74 6a e8 e8 0d 84 83 04 0b0: 06 57 00 5e c3 02 00 Tuple #5, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 118 000: bf 00 ff 33 8b e0 8b 74 89 fe 33 56 74 0b 74 33 010: 8b c1 04 c6 c0 d8 8f 5a 16 da e3 8b 03 03 39 b8 020: 74 b9 ff 07 3b b8 72 8b 5f c9 56 8b e0 8b 74 c1 030: 04 b8 8b 33 56 8b 59 de db 01 83 08 ef 7d ff 04 040: 05 ff 5e c8 00 56 c7 f6 00 46 00 c7 a6 a6 c7 f4 050: 57 46 00 8b fa db c0 87 5a 5e 03 89 86 ff fa 7e 060: 10 e3 06 30 74 8b be d1 03 c7 86 01 c7 58 05 c7 070: 5a 09 a1 30 d1 a3 Tuple #6, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 6 000: 5a 00 06 5a 00 06 Tuple #7, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 90 000: 06 5a 00 06 30 00 cf 83 04 0f 08 6a e8 06 36 2a 010: 4c 05 00 e8 07 c4 6a e8 e6 52 e8 07 68 00 00 97 020: 83 08 ff 3b 8b f4 b7 01 7b 59 c0 85 01 ff f4 8a 030: 83 04 01 0f 18 8b f4 87 01 0f 0c 53 d5 59 46 03 040: c7 f6 00 46 00 33 eb 6a 8b c1 03 a6 50 46 6b 0e 050: 20 50 2d 83 06 c0 3c c6 00 0c Tuple #8, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 232 000: 05 50 2a 0a c6 e8 05 50 04 0b 83 04 76 68 26 f3 010: 83 04 46 01 83 f6 75 89 f8 3b be 72 83 f0 75 83 020: f6 73 8b f6 46 eb 6a 1e 46 6b 0e 1e 50 8b fa 6b 030: 0e 1e 50 80 6a 1e 46 c1 02 56 50 8b fa c1 02 56 040: 50 64 83 14 46 83 fa 72 6a 1e 48 e8 94 02 68 4f 050: 34 83 0c 4e ff f6 7e 00 0b 46 83 f6 0f 11 66 00 060: 19 e8 06 c4 eb 47 3e 30 82 fe 46 e8 04 46 8b 81 070: fe 01 84 02 c1 6a e8 e5 52 66 28 13 e8 e5 c4 66 080: 0f 01 66 27 14 e8 1e c4 89 fc 13 9e 6a e8 e5 c4 090: 83 fc 0f a8 8b fc 46 76 81 fc 27 12 46 3b f6 34 0a0: e8 05 3d 00 2a 44 a4 59 50 68 00 00 35 66 00 19 0b0: e8 05 ca 6a e8 e5 c4 c7 fc ff 7e 0f 75 83 f6 75 0c0: 39 f8 2b cc e8 e4 52 66 28 13 e8 e4 68 00 00 7f 0d0: e8 05 13 0e 83 0e 46 ff 83 fc 77 a1 30 3b fc 08 0e0: 46 3b f6 09 7e 0f 0f 1a Tuple #9, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 252 000: 0f 16 33 eb f7 01 74 8b d1 05 00 6a eb 8b d1 05 010: 00 6a e8 05 c4 68 26 0f 59 3b be 72 66 00 19 e8 020: 05 c4 c7 f0 00 f6 26 00 c7 e0 05 2d 8b 6b 0e 20 030: 50 e3 83 06 c0 07 46 01 eb 46 36 30 d4 7e 01 32 040: 7e 0f 75 83 f6 76 6a 1e c6 c0 05 4f e8 92 c4 eb 050: 39 fc 46 ff fc bb 83 04 35 06 8b fc c0 89 ec 20 060: 50 8b c1 03 a6 50 46 83 0a 5e 6b 0e 5e c7 28 01 070: c7 1e 04 c7 f2 00 7e 00 1d 38 68 2e 68 4f 16 6a 080: 1e ea 1e 56 e8 92 c4 68 2e 76 e8 db c4 81 fe 01 090: 85 fc 7e 00 84 01 cd e8 e2 52 66 28 13 e8 e3 c4 0a0: 6a e8 e2 52 66 28 14 e8 e3 68 00 00 f1 83 0c ff 0b0: 1f ff f4 f6 83 04 01 75 8b f4 87 01 75 53 45 59 0c0: 3b be 72 c7 ca 01 e8 e7 bb ff 4e a1 2a 02 50 ab 0d0: 83 04 40 76 59 50 e4 6a e8 02 68 00 00 8f 83 0a 0e0: 1b 89 fe f8 ff 73 50 76 e8 01 c4 3d 00 5a 46 a3 0f0: 57 3e 57 ce e8 e2 52 66 28 14 e8 e2 2 slots found Any ideas? AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 18:12:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wind.lcs.mit.edu (wind.lcs.mit.edu [18.31.0.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0FA37BBB7 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:12:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dga@wind.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from dga@localhost) by wind.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA19572 for freebsd-stable@freeBSD.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:12:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200006270112.VAA19572@wind.lcs.mit.edu> Subject: emu10k1 / ECC memory kernel panic To: freebsd-stable@freeBSD.org Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:12:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "David G. Andersen" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noted in the -stable archives the following thread, dated April 17: >> There was also an interaction between the emu10k1 code and the the >> Linux APM driver. With both enabled, I would see an NMI generated >> precisely every 5 minutes. With just APM everything was fine, and >> with just the emu10k1 the situation was as described above. The only >> other person I knew to be observing this behavior was another fellow >> with a Dell Dimension XPS T and ECC memory. > ECC memory seems to be the common denominator; it may be that the card > is doing Bad Things to the bus during memory accesses. I don't know, I > don't have specs for the card so I can't really make any kind of > educated guess, but I certainly hope this helps Cameron figure it out. I'm running on a Gateway PIII/600, 256M ECC SDRAM. I get a similar kernel panic (trap 19 with interrupts disabled, and an ECC error) when I attempt to use the soundcard. It's detected completely normally. Is this still a well-known and being-worked-on thing, or should I send verbose dmesg output and kernel config? apm0 enabled, per GENERIC. Major differences from generic: IPFIREWALL (+VERBOSE, +DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, +DIVERT, +DUMMYNET) HZ=10000 NMBCLUSTERS=8192 no scsi, pared down ethernet interfaces, added 4 bpf devices. -Dave -- work: dga@lcs.mit.edu me: dga@pobox.com MIT Laboratory for Computer Science http://www.angio.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 18:35:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0A1F37BDA1 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:35:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 23356 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 01:35:40 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 01:35:40 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20122; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:35:37 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> From: Harry Putnam In-Reply-To: Mark Ovens's message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:28 +0100" Date: 26 Jun 2000 18:35:36 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 66 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens writes: > If Alexey wants underlining to appear as yellow on black as he says > then in /usr/share/misc/termcap change the line > > :tc=cons25w: > > in the definition of > > cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ > > to > > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: > ^^ ^^ > || fg colour > || > bg colour > > then, as root, run ``cd /usr/share/misc ; cap_mkdb termcap'' and then > try ``man chmod'' on the console. This isn't working for me .. Probably doing something wrong but I can't see what. Can you see what I've done wrong here? beginning around line 2379 in termcao cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ :ac=l\332m\300k\277j\331u\264t\303v\301w\302q\304x\263n\305`^Da\260f\370g\361~\371.^Y-^Xh\261i^U0\333y\363z\362:\ :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=con25w: || fg colour || bg colour cons25-m|ansis-mono|ansi80x25-mono:\ When running cap_mkdb termcap I get this output: root:/usr/share/misc # cp termcap-edited termcap root:/usr/share/misc # cap_mkdb termcap cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25|ansis|ansi80x25 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25-m|ansis-mono|ansi80x25-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30|ansi80x30 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30-m|ansi80x30-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43|ansi80x43 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43-m|ansi80x43-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50|ansil|ansi80x50 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50-m|ansil-mono|ansi80x50-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60|ansi80x60 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60-m|ansi80x60-mono root:/usr/share/misc # I thought maybe the positioning of `bg colour' in your post was a typo so tried it like `|| bg colour' but got the same output. I understood your post to be saying this edit would produce a yellow on black is that just on xterms? When viewing `man chmod' all highlight is removed which is what I wanted anyway, but does the output mean something else will break? > For a visual "list" of colour combinations, run this script (the > numbers along the top of the display are the bg colours and the ones > at the left are the fg colours): Very nice this script To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 18:40:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A5937BDA7 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFC76F4; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id SAA12875; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200006270140.SAA12875@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Alan Clegg Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pcmcia fails to identify cards (4.0-stable cvsup 2000-06-26) Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:52:18 EDT." <20000626205218.A34624@shell.wetworks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:40:06 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ -questions removed from cc: ] Alan Clegg wrote: > but, when I attempt to run pccardd, it always complains with: > > Jun 26 20:28:36 i pccardd[50]: No card in database for "(null)"("(null)") Well, as you've given very little information, I'll take a wild-*** guess and say that you're probably seeing a memory conflict. If this is a desktop, I'd guess that the conflict is with a SCSI controller, probably fixable via iomem settings. For some hints, see item #3 in the "TROUBLESHOOTING" section of: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=69971+95875+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-mobile/20000528.freebsd-mobile -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 19:16:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D4737B74C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA27708; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:10:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006270210.WAA27708@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "andrew@ugh.net.au" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:07:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:35:16 +1000 (EST), andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: >On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Francisco Reyes wrote: >> When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number >> of syntax errors and the last line reports: >> Specify machine type, e.g. ``machine vax'' > >I got this when I accidently cvsuped 3-STABLE rather than 4-STABLE on a >4.0-RELEASE box. Have you rebuilt config? What do you mean by "Have you rebuilt config?" I am following the instructions from UPDATING I am trying to build the new kernel the same way I have built my previous kernels when staying stable. To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable -------------------------------- cd /usr/src make buildworld cd sbin/mknod make install cd ../../sys/modules make install <---I am there reboot cd /usr/src cd gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info make install cd ../../../.. make installworld mergemaster reboot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 19:17:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E40437B6AA for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA27712; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:10:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006270210.WAA27712@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Joe" Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:08:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <20000626090401.A4590@team7.cba.ualr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:04:01 -0500, Joe wrote: >On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:27:01AM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: >> Following the instructions from UPDATING. >> When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number >> of syntax errors and the last line reports: >> >> Specify machine type, e.g. ``machine vax'' >I believe 4.x does not require quotes. Try without. >-Joe That is the default. I tried the quotes after seen the error message. What I don't understand is why only a few people including myself have had this problem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 19:24:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front.linuxcare.com.au (linuxcare.com.au [203.29.91.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB08837B74C; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com ([203.17.0.42]) by front.linuxcare.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA08614; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:24:44 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: front.linuxcare.com.au: Host [203.17.0.42] claimed to be sydney.worldwide.lemis.com Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05460; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:03:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:03:49 +1000 From: Greg Lehey To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Message-ID: <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <20000626225629.A525@freebie.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000626225629.A525@freebie.wbnet> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 22:56:29 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > I just got tons and tons of > > Jun 26 22:06:33 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,199762) > Jun 26 22:06:34 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,210275) > > (approx 10Mb worth of them). This was during a mpeg video playing operation. > > FreeBSD freebie.wbnet 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat Jun 24 16:52:41 CEST 2000 root@freebie.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE i386 > > System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. > > Any idea what is causing this? Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it's a bug in the APM code. It even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the kernel. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 19:34:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BB437BDC3 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA27777; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:28:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "John Polstra" , "Kent Stewart" Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:25:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <39578F8A.1C027CF2@3-cities.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:14:50 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: >The only problem is that people will not typically see cvsup having >problems checking out the two files. I just happened to see the >messages flash by on the screen. And this is why it is best to always send the output of cvsup to a file. I like the graphic interface, but until it has loging capabilities (did I miss them somewhere?) it really doesn't make much sense to use it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 19:49:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4082837BDDC for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 3800 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 02:49:44 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 02:49:44 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20359; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:49:41 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Andrew Johns Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> From: Harry Putnam In-Reply-To: Harry Putnam's message of "26 Jun 2000 18:35:36 -0700" Date: 26 Jun 2000 19:49:33 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 57 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Harry Putnam writes: > beginning around line 2379 in termcao > > cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ > :ac=l\332m\300k\277j\331u\264t\303v\301w\302q\304x\263n\305`^Da\260f\370g\361~\371.^Y-^Xh\261i^U0\333y\363z\362:\ > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=con25w: > || fg colour > || > bg colour > cons25-m|ansis-mono|ansi80x25-mono:\ > > When running cap_mkdb termcap I get this output: > > root:/usr/share/misc # cp termcap-edited termcap > root:/usr/share/misc # cap_mkdb termcap > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25|ansis|ansi80x25 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25-m|ansis-mono|ansi80x25-mono > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30|ansi80x30 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30-m|ansi80x30-mono > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43|ansi80x43 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43-m|ansi80x43-mono > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50|ansil|ansi80x50 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50-m|ansil-mono|ansi80x50-mono > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60|ansi80x60 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60-m|ansi80x60-mono > root:/usr/share/misc # > Someone graciously pointed out to me privately that the || fg colour Stuff wasn't to go in the edit. I took them to be `or' operators or something. Probably the only dumbell out here who missed the boat. But still, trying it again.. I still get the messages and man chmod shows no highlighting at all. cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ :ac=l\332m\300k\277j\331u\264t\303v\301w\302q\304x\263n\305`^Da\260f\37\ 0g\361~\371.^Y-^Xh\261i^U0\333y\363z\362:\ :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=con25w: cons25-m|ansis-mono|ansi80x25-mono:\ cao_mkdb cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25|ansis|ansi80x25 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25-m|ansis-mono|ansi80x25-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30|ansi80x30 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30-m|ansi80x30-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43|ansi80x43 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43-m|ansi80x43-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50|ansil|ansi80x50 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50-m|ansil-mono|ansi80x50-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60|ansi80x60 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60-m|ansi80x60-mono fgroot:/usr/share/misc # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 19:55:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B25637BDB8 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08996; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:55:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA16879; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200006270255.TAA16879@vashon.polstra.com> To: fran@reyes.somos.net Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move In-Reply-To: <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net> References: <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net>, Francisco Reyes wrote: > And this is why it is best to always send the output of cvsup to > a file. I like the graphic interface, but until it has loging > capabilities (did I miss them somewhere?) it really doesn't make > much sense to use it. That's what the little button with the diskette symbol near the southeast corner is for. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 20:33:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F2E37BD93 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AA6F9A847; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:33:41 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33405443; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:33:41 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:33:41 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Francisco Reyes Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable In-Reply-To: <200006270210.WAA27708@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Francisco Reyes wrote: > What do you mean by "Have you rebuilt config?" cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config && make && make install Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 20:40: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E6337B674 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA27934; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:33:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006270333.XAA27934@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "andrew@ugh.net.au" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:30:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:33:41 +1000 (EST), andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > > >On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Francisco Reyes wrote: > >> What do you mean by "Have you rebuilt config?" > >cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config && make && make install >Andrew Now I get /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found when I try to run config :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 20:47:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (luna.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABEC37BDF3; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:47:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B618E3154; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:47:20 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Alan Clegg Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pcmcia fails to identify cards (4.0-stable cvsup 2000-06-26) Message-ID: <20000626204720.A10939@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com References: <20000626205218.A34624@shell.wetworks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.4i In-Reply-To: <20000626205218.A34624@shell.wetworks.org>; from abc@shell.wetworks.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:52:18PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 at 20:52:18 -0400, Alan Clegg wrote: > First off, a previous 4.0 (closer to release) worked with the same hardware > (both PC-Card [wavelan wi0] and isa/pcic card). The kernel has PNPBIOS > turned on and there don't seem to be any I/O or IRQ conflicts. > > The system finds the ISA/PCIC device during boot: > > pcic0: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 > pcic0: Polling mode > pccard0: on pcic0 > pccard1: on pcic0 > > from: > > device pcic0 at isa? > device pcic1 at isa? > device card > > but, when I attempt to run pccardd, it always complains with: > > Jun 26 20:28:36 i pccardd[50]: No card in database for "(null)"("(null)") > > no matter what card I insert. a 'pccardc dumpcis' appears to be dumping > random data.. What's in your /etc/pccard.conf? - jim -- /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 20:57:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3B037BDFD for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 480BAA847; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:57:45 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D7C5443; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:57:45 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:57:45 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Francisco Reyes Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable In-Reply-To: <200006270333.XAA27934@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Now I get > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found > > when I try to run config Ah yes...didn't think of the shared libraries. Perhaps a staticly linked config will help? You can grab one from ftp://ftp.ugh.net.au/pub/unix/config.gz compiled under 4.0-STABLE. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 20:58: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D86A37BDFD for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Received: (from joe@localhost) by team7.cba.ualr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00983; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:57:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joe) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:57:05 -0500 From: Joe Royce To: Francisco Reyes Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Message-ID: <20000626225705.A868@team7.cba.ualr.edu> References: <200006270210.WAA27708@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006270210.WAA27708@sanson.reyes.somos.net>; from fran@reyes.somos.net on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:07:24PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:07:24PM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:35:16 +1000 (EST), andrew@ugh.net.au > wrote: > > >On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Francisco Reyes wrote: > >> When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number > >> of syntax errors and the last line reports: > >> Specify machine type, e.g. ``machine vax'' > > > >I got this when I accidently cvsuped 3-STABLE rather than 4-STABLE on a > >4.0-RELEASE box. Have you rebuilt config? > > What do you mean by "Have you rebuilt config?" When upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable you must rebuild config(8) and genassym(8) prior to rebuilding a new kernel. See below. > I am following the instructions from UPDATING > I am trying to build the new kernel the same way I have built my > previous kernels when staying stable. > > To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable > -------------------------------- > > cd /usr/src > > make buildworld > cd sbin/mknod > make install > cd ../../sys/modules > make install > <---I am there An alternative method of building a kernel is: cd /usr/src/usr.bin/genassym make depend all install clean cd ../../usr.sbin/config make depend all install clean cd ../../sys/i386/conf config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make depend && make make install Then continue with the rest of the instructions. HTH, Joe. > > reboot > > cd /usr/src > cd gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info > make install > cd ../../../.. > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 21:23: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD73337BE0F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01699 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:22:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00786; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:22:58 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200006270422.OAA00786@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Repeatable panic: zone: entry not free Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:22:58 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the wierdest thing. I have a 4.0-Stable machine. I mount the 4.0 CD#1. I go to another 4.0 machine, or another window on the same machine, and ftp to this machine as a non-root non-anonymous user. Inside ftp, I do cd /cdrom/packages/Latest ls rsy* and I get a panic (traceback attached). This happens repeatably, even across Kernel recompiles (to get a debugging kernel for the stack trace). This is 100% repeatable (5 from 5 so far). non-Weird fact: it does not happen if you try to ls the directory from the command line. very Weird fact: If you ftp in from a Solaris host, and try the exact same sequence, it all works fine. I don't have easy access to any other FTP clients to try. NB: The code for this panic in vm/vm_zone.c is hidden inside "#ifdef INVARIANTS" which I turn on out of habitual paranoia and/or terminal curiosity. Any clues? I can offer dump files, tracebacks etc if anyone is interested. Greg. Script started on Tue Jun 27 14:04:08 2000 hellcat## gdb -k kernel.debug.1 vmcore.1 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... IdlePTD 3342336 initial pcb at 2b7420 panicstr: zone: entry not free panic messages: --- panic: zone: entry not free syncing disks... done Uptime: 20m18s dumping to dev #ad/1, offset 131072 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:302 302 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:302 #1 0xc014ba11 in panic (fmt=0xc0265bf9 "zone: entry not free") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:552 #2 0xc01f95a7 in zerror () at ../../vm/vm_zone.c:456 #3 0xc0173a78 in namei (ndp=0xc6240ec4) at ../../vm/vm_zone.h:91 #4 0xc0179b68 in readlink (p=0xc5c9f1e0, uap=0xc6240f80) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:1902 #5 0xc0235951 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 671744047, tf_es = 671744047, tf_ds = -1078001617, tf_edi = 134657024, tf_esi = 134657100, tf_ebp = -1077945572, tf_isp = -970715180, tf_ebx = -1077946600, tf_edx = 10, tf_ecx = -1077947756, tf_eax = 58, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 672018760, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp = -1077947664, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1126 #6 0xc02298e6 in Xint0x80_syscall () #7 0x66c4c083 in ?? () Cannot access memory at address 0x6602b70f. (kgdb) ^D hellcat## exit Script done on Tue Jun 27 14:06:20 2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 21:33: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E7037B526 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA32396; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:26:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006270426.AAA32396@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Joe Royce" Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:23:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <20000626225705.A868@team7.cba.ualr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:57:05 -0500, Joe Royce wrote: >When upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable you must rebuild config(8) and >genassym(8) prior to rebuilding a new kernel. See below. Thanks much for your message. the most detailed. I have decided that I have tried long enough (currently getting a core dump) and will save/data, install 4.X from scratch. Would someone please send-pr the current instructsions to go from 3.4 to 4.X Stable. It can save people like myself a lot of time and frustration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 21:34:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A0F37B526 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA32404; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:28:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006270428.AAA32404@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Joe Royce" Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:25:16 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:23:49 -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: >Would someone please send-pr the current instructsions to go >from 3.4 to 4.X Stable. clarification... I mean to say if someone would send-prg to update /usr/src/UPDATING. Francisco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 21:39:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marble.fbcc.com (ns2.fbcc.com [216.54.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9508437BE20 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: (qmail 4220 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 04:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bluto.jimking.net) (216.54.255.8) by ns2.fbcc.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 04:41:39 -0000 Received: from marble (marble.lgc.com [134.132.228.8]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA72270; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:39:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Message-ID: <009f01bfdff1$aeee7a00$08e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: "Francisco Reyes" Cc: References: <200006270426.AAA32396@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:39:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:57:05 -0500, Joe Royce wrote: > > >When upgrading from 3.x to 4.0 stable you must rebuild config(8) and > >genassym(8) prior to rebuilding a new kernel. See below. > > Thanks much for your message. > the most detailed. > I have decided that I have tried long enough (currently getting > a core dump) and will save/data, install 4.X from scratch. > > Would someone please send-pr the current instructsions to go > from 3.4 to 4.X Stable. > > It can save people like myself a lot of time and frustration. They're in src/UPDATING. If you follow them carefully then upgrading from 3.4 to 4.0 works fine - I did two machines in the last two weeks. That being said, if I'd had local access to the machines I probably would have done a data backup and installed 4.0 from scratch, because it would have been a nice opportunity to tweak partition sizes, clean out old gunk, etc. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 21:48:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262E437B6DF for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:48:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA32450; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:42:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006270442.AAA32450@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Jim King" Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:38:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <009f01bfdff1$aeee7a00$08e48486@marble> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:39:26 -0500, Jim King wrote: >> Would someone please send-pr the current instructsions to go >> from 3.4 to 4.X Stable. >> >> It can save people like myself a lot of time and frustration. > >They're in src/UPDATING. If you follow them carefully then upgrading from >3.4 to 4.0 works fine - I did two machines in the last two weeks. They are close, but not complete. For one they are missing the references about genassym. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 21:48:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DF837BE3E for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:48:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16060; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:47:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01836; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:47:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270447.WAA01836@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Polstra Cc: fran@reyes.somos.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move In-Reply-To: <200006270255.TAA16879@vashon.polstra.com> References: <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <200006270255.TAA16879@vashon.polstra.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > And this is why it is best to always send the output of cvsup to > > a file. I like the graphic interface, but until it has loging > > capabilities (did I miss them somewhere?) it really doesn't make > > much sense to use it. > > That's what the little button with the diskette symbol near the > southeast corner is for. Hey, cool. I learned something new today. :) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:26:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25CD37B948; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:26:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000627062746.PKVT159.relay01@chello.nl>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:27:46 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA04818; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:26:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:26:49 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Greg Lehey Cc: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Message-ID: <20000627082648.A3475@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000626225629.A525@freebie.wbnet> <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:03:49PM +1000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:03:49PM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > > On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 22:56:29 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I just got tons and tons of > > > > Jun 26 22:06:33 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,199762) > > Jun 26 22:06:34 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,210275) > > > > (approx 10Mb worth of them). This was during a mpeg video playing operation. > > > > FreeBSD freebie.wbnet 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat Jun 24 16:52:41 CEST 2000 root@freebie.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE i386 > > > > System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. > > > > Any idea what is causing this? > > Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it's a bug in the APM code. It > even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the > kernel. No, it is an Abit KA7. But I will try removing apm, it is indeed in the kernel. I'll see what happens next. Why does apm influence the time stuff? -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:29:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDD337B948 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72480; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:29:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32051; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:27:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270627.AAA32051@harmony.village.org> To: "Francisco Reyes" Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:27:01 EDT." <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net> References: <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:27:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net> "Francisco Reyes" writes: : When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number : of syntax errors and the last line reports: did you accidentally update to -current where lots of things changed? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:30:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C7B37BE45 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72497; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:30:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32078; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:28:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270628.AAA32078@harmony.village.org> To: Matt Heckaman Subject: Re: Compatibility Question Cc: Brad Knowles , FreeBSD-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:42:50 EDT." References: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:28:17 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Matt Heckaman writes: : comparison to some, but I have a machine here running 512M of non-ECC for : over a year now without any ram-related problems. (HD did die once though) Without any ram-related problems that were detected you mean. without ECC or parity, you may have some that go undetected... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:32:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CA237B948 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72512; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:32:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32111; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270631.AAA32111@harmony.village.org> To: K.J.Bosschaart@tue.nl Subject: Re: 4.0-Stable boot hangs Cc: John Holland , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:36:23 +0200." <20000626163623.A60970@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> References: <20000626163623.A60970@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> <4.3.1.0.20000626095103.00ac5a70@pop.mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:31:00 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000626163623.A60970@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> "Karel J. Bosschaart" writes: : On 06/17 there was a change in sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c, which causes my ISA : NE2000 compatible to hang at boot time, just like in your case. I contacted : Paul Saab, who commited the change, about it and hope he will have a : solution. As a quick workaround, you might try replacing if_ed.c with an : 'old' one and recompile your kernel. I didn't try this myself. Instead : I replaced my ISA NIC with a PCI NIC (also using ed0...) which works fine. : If you go into config mode during boot and disable the ed driver the system : will boot again - without network of course :-(. : (The change in if_ed.c had to do with probing newer cards). Yes. We really need to split up the ed driver into three new drivers: ne (for the ne2000), smc (for the smc based card) and ls (for linksys, although my off the cuff name sucks). Probing is becoming much harder for these beasts and order is getting harder and harder to get right for every card on the planet :-( Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:35:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B8537B948 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:35:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72525; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:35:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32131; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:33:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270633.AAA32131@harmony.village.org> To: David Gilbert Subject: Re: Almost serial consoles. Cc: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:55:12 EDT." <14679.28368.157426.659715@trooper.velocet.net> References: <14679.28368.157426.659715@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:33:24 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14679.28368.157426.659715@trooper.velocet.net> David Gilbert writes: : While we have for some time used serial consoles from realweasel.com, : we are faced with a number of server motherboards without ISA slots. : I found it fairly easy to get the kernel to boot against the serial : console and there is an option in the kernel config to set the console : speed. : : It is also possible to set console="comconsole" in /boot/loader.conf, : but I can't see a setting for the serial speed. Is that possible? Yes, but you must build bootblocks yourself. Look in sys/boot/${arch}/lib${arch}/comconsole.c for the COMSPEED parameter. I have boot blocks that boot at 115200 over COM3 in an embedded SBC we at Timing Solutions have. It works great, although we might not ship the final proudct like this for other reasons. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:36:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FE437BE3D for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:36:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72529; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:36:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32148; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:34:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270634.AAA32148@harmony.village.org> To: Sergei Vyshenski Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available for x86 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:34:04 +0400." <4.3.2.7.0.20000627022543.00ab0cc0@vivaldi> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000627022543.00ab0cc0@vivaldi> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:34:53 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <4.3.2.7.0.20000627022543.00ab0cc0@vivaldi> Sergei Vyshenski writes: : So FreeBSD has two stable branches? : Which one is more stable among stable for i386? : Say for use at a site that need reliable round-the-clock : gatewaing, named and mail operation? I'd use 4.0-stable. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:38:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E667037BE83 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:38:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72547; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:38:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32183; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:36:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270636.AAA32183@harmony.village.org> To: Harry Putnam Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 Cc: Mark Ovens , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "26 Jun 2000 16:42:09 PDT." References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:36:28 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Harry Putnam writes: : Good info here, I'm still bogged down trying to get a network up on a : laptop with FreeBSD so getting tired of the obnoxious highlighting : since I'm pooring thru manpages constantly right now. Not that : familiar with FreeBSD and its just enough different from Linux that : most tools don't act quite the same. If you are trying to install from scratch on a laptop, and don't have a NetGear pccard card (or anything cardbus), then I'd suggest installing from the latest 4.0-stable snapshot rather than from 4.0 release. If you do have a netgear card, I'm sorry. Some of the newer ones just don't work yet and need a lot of help. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:39: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560CF37BEF2; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72555; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:38:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32203; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:37:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270637.AAA32203@harmony.village.org> To: Alan Clegg Subject: Re: pcmcia fails to identify cards (4.0-stable cvsup 2000-06-26) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:52:18 EDT." <20000626205218.A34624@shell.wetworks.org> References: <20000626205218.A34624@shell.wetworks.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:37:04 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000626205218.A34624@shell.wetworks.org> Alan Clegg writes: : Any ideas? Almost certainly a memory conflict. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:40:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B3237BE6F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72568; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32223; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270638.AAA32223@harmony.village.org> To: "Francisco Reyes" Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: "andrew@ugh.net.au" , "FreeBSD Stable List" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:30:56 EDT." <200006270333.XAA27934@sanson.reyes.somos.net> References: <200006270333.XAA27934@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:38:22 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006270333.XAA27934@sanson.reyes.somos.net> "Francisco Reyes" writes: : /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found UPDATING says: [5] If you get warnings from ld-elf.so that it cannot load libc.so, run 'ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc' and repeat the installworld target. But you may need to substitute your own values of "/usr/obj" and "/usr/src" in the above path. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:41:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BC737BE73 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72572; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:41:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32236; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:39:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270639.AAA32236@harmony.village.org> To: Joe Royce Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: Francisco Reyes , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:57:05 CDT." <20000626225705.A868@team7.cba.ualr.edu> References: <20000626225705.A868@team7.cba.ualr.edu> <200006270210.WAA27708@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:39:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000626225705.A868@team7.cba.ualr.edu> Joe Royce writes: : An alternative method of building a kernel is: : : cd /usr/src/usr.bin/genassym : make depend all install clean : cd ../../usr.sbin/config : make depend all install clean : cd ../../sys/i386/conf : config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE : cd ../../compile/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE : make depend && make : make install : : Then continue with the rest of the instructions. This alternative method has been known to have problems, which is why I replaced it with the method that currently is in UPDATING. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:41:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13AE37BDDD for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:41:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72577; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:41:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32249; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:39:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270639.AAA32249@harmony.village.org> To: "Francisco Reyes" Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: "Joe Royce" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:23:49 EDT." <200006270426.AAA32396@sanson.reyes.somos.net> References: <200006270426.AAA32396@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:39:48 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006270426.AAA32396@sanson.reyes.somos.net> "Francisco Reyes" writes: : Would someone please send-pr the current instructsions to go : from 3.4 to 4.X Stable. cvsup cat /usr/src/UPDATING Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:42:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786DD37BE57 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72586; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:41:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32272; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270640.AAA32272@harmony.village.org> To: "Francisco Reyes" Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: "Joe Royce" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:25:16 EDT." <200006270428.AAA32404@sanson.reyes.somos.net> References: <200006270428.AAA32404@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:08 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006270428.AAA32404@sanson.reyes.somos.net> "Francisco Reyes" writes: : clarification... I mean to say if someone would send-prg to : update /usr/src/UPDATING. What update is needed? The instructions worked fine for me last time I tried it? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 26 23:42:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC7237B948 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72593; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:42:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA32285; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006270640.AAA32285@harmony.village.org> To: "Francisco Reyes" Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: "Jim King" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:38:54 EDT." <200006270442.AAA32450@sanson.reyes.somos.net> References: <200006270442.AAA32450@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:42 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006270442.AAA32450@sanson.reyes.somos.net> "Francisco Reyes" writes: : For one they are missing the references about genassym. No. They aren't. You don't need to build genassym. Buildkernel takes care of all of that. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 0: 1: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from router.difi.de (router.difi.de [212.6.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519D737B604 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from max.difi.de (max [192.168.1.2]) by router.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA87350 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:00:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from difi.de (uwe@edvnb1.difi.de [192.168.1.99]) by max.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA76995 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:00:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Message-ID: <39585240.7C833E3C@difi.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:05:36 +0200 From: Uwe Laverenz Organization: DIFI Dierk Filmer GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Doug, > > dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold > > xl0: transmission error: 90 > > > > You have some device on your PCI bus (usually video) hogging the bus too > much. This is a common problem on high-usage network cards. And a common problem on old 486-based PCI-boards, maybe? At least I see these messages on my Asus SP3G. Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 0:44:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.craxx.nl (mail.craxx.nl [195.85.153.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F18537B6B8 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd.stable@lists.craxx.nl) Received: from cartman (segfault.craxx.nl [195.85.153.236]) by mail.craxx.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C81C1E80E for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:44:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "laurens van alphen (craxx)" To: Subject: RE: Strangeness with 4.0-S Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:44:46 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <39585240.7C833E3C@difi.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold > > > xl0: transmission error: 90 > > > > > > > You have some device on your PCI bus (usually video) hogging the bus too > > much. This is a common problem on high-usage network cards. > > And a common problem on old 486-based PCI-boards, maybe? At least I see > these messages on my Asus SP3G. Add, early Pentium PCI boards. I'm seeing the same thing, using several different NICs. Last time I checked, that system had an ISA video card. -- laurens van alphen, craxx alphen@craxx.nl, http://www.craxx.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 1:49:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from barmetta.skmdc.net (barmetta.skmdc.net [209.21.47.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEB337B604 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan@barmetta.com) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by barmetta.skmdc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03759; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:33:02 -0700 From: "bryan d. o'connor" To: Gregory Bond Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repeatable panic: zone: entry not free Message-ID: <20000626223302.K249@barmetta.com> References: <200006270422.OAA00786@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006270422.OAA00786@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:22:58PM +1000 X-X: super karate monkey death car Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | very Weird fact: If you ftp in from a Solaris host, and try the exact same | sequence, it all works fine. I don't have easy access to any other FTP | clients to try. the difference might be how the client is handling the "ls". the FTP protocol has at least two different mechanisms for requesting a directory listing (LIST, NLST). so the solaris client might be implemented differently from the first client you tried. i think the original idea was that one would be "human readable" and the other would be "machine readable" (for implementing things like mget). ...bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 2:43:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from router.difi.de (router.difi.de [212.6.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F175A37BEEA for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from max.difi.de (max [192.168.1.2]) by router.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA88189 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:43:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from difi.de (uwe@edvnb1.difi.de [192.168.1.99]) by max.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA89682 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:43:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Message-ID: <39587852.C088418B@difi.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:48:02 +0200 From: Uwe Laverenz Organization: DIFI Dierk Filmer GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Add, early Pentium PCI boards. I'm seeing the same thing, using > several different NICs. Last time I checked, that system had an ISA video > card. I think the problem is that these old boards have an older PCI standard, not PCI 2.1. Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 4:21:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8978F37BF8D for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 4031 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 11:21:15 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 11:21:15 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23214; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:21:07 -0700 To: Andrew Johns Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> <39582DD1.581CAB6D@kpi.com.au> From: Harry Putnam In-Reply-To: Andrew Johns's message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:30:09 +1000" Date: 27 Jun 2000 04:20:56 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 123 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG NOTE: Posted to freebsd-stable incase anyone else can see the error Andrew Johns writes: > See inline comments below. > > Harry Putnam wrote: > > > > Harry Putnam writes: > > [snip] > > > > > cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ > > :ac=l\332m\300k\277j\331u\264t\303v\301w\302q\304x\263n\305`^Da\ > > 260f\370g\361~\371.^Y-^Xh\261i^U0\333y\363z\362:\ > > Make CERTAIN that the line above has no spaces and no end-of-line or > carriage returns in it - it must all be on one line (although the terminal > may wrap it for display purposes - beware of the difference) > > NOTE: I had to break the line for mail purposes. Also check that the VERY > LAST character is the '\' after the ':' - there MUST NOT be any characters > after the '\' else it will never work. > > Good luck this time perhaps... :) This is turning into a real exercise in scrutiny.. Studying the original termcap compared to termcap.tmp (edited) I see no extraneous junk in there. Although admittedly I'm not very experienced with this. Further this is not a huge issue, but very curious now as to what I'm doing wrong here. Using `vim :2374 2382 list' to see all characters it looks ok but still I get the same output when running `cap_mkdb'. Then my term cap is trashed, so that trying to start emacs to view the file termcap gives me .."terminal type "cons25" is not powerful enough to run Emacs ....." And `man chmod' shows no highlighting whatever OK. `cp termcap-orig termcap; cap_mkdb termcap' Back to square one. Everything works as before. (White Reverse video highlighting at `man ') So, in an effort to make sure I only replace: :tc=cons25w: with: :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: I tried using tools so as not to rely on my eyesight too much: # ed termcap-orig 188977 2379p :tc=cons25w: 2379 s/:tc=cons25w/:us=\\\E[40;34;1m:ue=\\\E[m:tc=cons25w:/ 2379p :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: w termcap.tmp 18999 q # diff termcap-orig termcap.tmp 2379c2379 < :tc=cons25w: --- > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: # cp termcap.tmp termcap Now running `cap_mkdb termcap' produces the same output: cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25|ansis|ansi80x25 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25-m|ansis-mono|ansi80x25-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30|ansi80x30 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30-m|ansi80x30-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43|ansi80x43 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43-m|ansi80x43-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50|ansil|ansi80x50 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50-m|ansil-mono|ansi80x50-mono cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60|ansi80x60 cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60-m|ansi80x60-mono Which trashes termcap : # emacs termcap emacs: Terminal type "cons25" is not powerful enough to run Emacs. It lacks the ability to position the cursor. If that is not the actual type of terminal you have, use the Bourne shell command `TERM=... export TERM' (C-shell: `setenv TERM ...') to specify the correct type. It may be necessary to do `unset TERMCAP' (C-shell: `unsetenv TERMCAP') as well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 4:22: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gradwell.com (mail.gradwell.com [194.205.225.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 171C537BF76 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@gradwell.com) Received: (qmail 12033 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 11:19:28 -0000 Received: from vaio.peterg.net (HELO vaio) (194.205.225.24) by mail.gradwell.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 11:19:28 -0000 X-Jealousy-Factor: Sony Vaio X9 X-URL: http://www.gradwell.com/ X-Age: I'm 20, how old are you? Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000627121230.04632d20@mail.gradwell.com> X-Sender: peter@mail.gradwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:18:14 +0100 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Peter Gradwell Subject: 4-RELEASE -> 4 Stable, error making tools. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ya, I'm trying to upgrade from CURRENT to STABLE, having installed via ftp from ftp.uk.freebsd.org. So, i'm updating my sources using cvsup thus: su-2.03# more /etc/cvsup/stable *default host=cvsup3.uk.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all cvs-crypto and then running cd /usr/src; make buildworld and it goes along fine until we get to: cd /usr/src/bin/sh; make build-tools cc -O -pipe -DSHELL -I. -I/usr/src/bin/sh -Wall -Wformat -c /usr/src/bin/sh/mkinit.c cc -O -pipe -DSHELL -I. -I/usr/src/bin/sh -Wall -Wformat -static mkinit.o -o mkinit cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11 - when it stops. at the same time I get Jun 27 13:00:45 red /kernel: pid 51781 (ld), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) in /var/log/messages. - I've updated the sources and repeated this problem several times over the last 48 hours. Now, i've seem people saying in these lists that this error is caused due to a hardware fault. Is this likely my problem (I hope not, it's all new!) clues welcome. thanks peter -- peter at gradwell dot com; online @ http://www.gradwell.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 4:32:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.wetworks.org (shell.wetworks.org [63.160.175.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0527037BF7B for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abc@shell.wetworks.org) Received: (qmail 41596 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Jun 2000 11:32:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:32:51 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pcmcia fails to identify cards (4.0-stable cvsup 2000-06-26) Message-ID: <20000627073251.B36942@shell.wetworks.org> References: <20000626205218.A34624@shell.wetworks.org> <200006270140.SAA12875@mina.soco.agilent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006270140.SAA12875@mina.soco.agilent.com>; from darrylo@soco.agilent.com on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 06:40:06PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An SMTP stream claimed that Darryl Okahata muttered: > > Jun 26 20:28:36 i pccardd[50]: No card in database for "(null)"("(null)") > > Well, as you've given very little information, I'll take a wild-*** > guess and say that you're probably seeing a memory conflict. If this is > a desktop, I'd guess that the conflict is with a SCSI controller, > probably fixable via iomem settings. For some hints, see item #3 in the > "TROUBLESHOOTING" section of: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=69971+95875+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-mobile/20000528.freebsd-mobile This got it. I find it a bit disconcerting that nowhere in dmesg did it show that anything was using the memory region around 0xd0000 and yet that turned out to be the problem. I *HATE* pc hardware.... I really do. Thanks to all that gave ideas on fixing the problem. My wireless network is once again working. AlanC {now, to upgrade to WEP capable WaveLan cards..} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 4:44: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BE537BF78 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:43:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA33634; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:37:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006271137.HAA33634@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Warner Losh" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:34:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <200006270627.AAA32051@harmony.village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:27:15 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >In message <200006261128.HAA25723@sanson.reyes.somos.net> "Francisco Reyes" writes: >: When I get to the point of building the kernel I get a number >: of syntax errors and the last line reports: > >did you accidentally update to -current where lots of things changed? No. My case was partly just bad luck. I used /usr/src/UPDATING from stable. I think it was missing one minor part. I also re-read it afterwards and found I also did not see one of the points that was documented. The part missing was about a file that had moved in stable. By now I am just going to go with "the sure thing" and re-install from scratch. I have already done this for two other boxes and have been keeping notes so hopefully this third one should be even better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 4:55:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCC737B969 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:55:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA33671; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:49:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200006271149.HAA33671@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Warner Losh" Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , "Joe Royce" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:45:35 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <200006270640.AAA32272@harmony.village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:08 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >What update is needed? The instructions worked fine for me last time >I tried it? As of version 1.73.2.6 cd /usr/src/usr.bin/genassym make depend all install clean cd ../../usr.sbin/config make depend all install clean There is an entry about genassym on 19991223, but this is not part of the instructions on how to upgrade. This was the part that was missing. There was another part that I didn't read properly due to the "note" system of putting comments below. It may be somewhat better to have the instructions in a linear fashion instead of having the notes below. For example [3] cd /usr/src [2] make buildworld cd /usr/src/sys/modules make install cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod make install [1] reboot The notes for [1], [2], [3], could be embedded within the text. A table may be a good setup for this. Sure it would be a pain to setup for the first time, but after that it won't be much more difficult to maintain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 5: 1:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from servnet.iiriam.fr (iiriam.iiriam.fr [194.167.168.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE91E37BE7E for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:01:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Henri.Michelon@iiriam.fr) Received: œby servnet.iiriam.fr (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA89460; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:12:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:12:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200006270712.JAA89460@servnet.iiriam.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: servnet.iiriam.fr: apache set sender to Henri.Michelon@iiriam.fr using -f From: Henri Michelon To: FreeBSD Stable List Reply-To: Henri Michelon References: <20000626225629.A525@freebie.wbnet> <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 X-Originating-IP: 193.104.124.13 Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG En réponse à Greg Lehey : > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > > Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it\'s a bug in the APM code. It > even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the > kernel. > I have the same problem running 4.0 on a IBM PC300GL. The message is displayed when unsing the CDROM, even if the APM is disabled in the BIOS (using the GENERIC kernel, I will try building a new kernel without APM). I have another pb with this box, but is not related to FreeBSD: the video card chipset, a S3 Savage 4 rev 3. There is two X servers: one from the linux version of XFree86, one binary version from Creative Labs (running without less bugs than the XFree86 one). Did somebody experienced running one of this Linux server under 4.0 (I try it, but it complain about opening a linux pseudo terminal that does not exists in FreeBSD) ?? -- Henri Michelon Henri.Michelon@iiriam.fr -- http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 5:35:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAB137BEFE for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from micheloo@xs4all.nl) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12109 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:35:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from root@localhost) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23824; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:35:01 +0200 (CEST) From: micheloo@xs4all.nl (Michel Oosterhof) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at list1.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: 4.0-Stable boot hangs Date: 27 Jun 2000 14:34:55 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL, Networking for the masses Message-ID: <8ja71f$a24$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <200006270631.AAA32111@harmony.village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG imp@village.ORG (Warner Losh) writes: >In message <20000626163623.A60970@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> "Karel J. Bosschaart" writes: >: On 06/17 there was a change in sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c, which causes my ISA >: NE2000 compatible to hang at boot time, just like in your case. I contacted >: Paul Saab, who commited the change, about it and hope he will have a >: solution. As a quick workaround, you might try replacing if_ed.c with an >: 'old' one and recompile your kernel. I didn't try this myself. Instead >: I replaced my ISA NIC with a PCI NIC (also using ed0...) which works fine. >: If you go into config mode during boot and disable the ed driver the system >: will boot again - without network of course :-(. >: (The change in if_ed.c had to do with probing newer cards). >Yes. We really need to split up the ed driver into three new drivers: >ne (for the ne2000), smc (for the smc based card) and ls (for linksys, >although my off the cuff name sucks). Probing is becoming much harder >for these beasts and order is getting harder and harder to get right >for every card on the planet :-( I also had problems with my latest kernel, that hangs at boot time right after the parallel port (which is just before the ethernet devices, i think). This could be a configuration error on my part, or maybe i walked into the same bug as the poster here (it's an NE2000 clone card). Just thought I'd let you know. michel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 6:30:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wysoft.tzo.com (c481444-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.12.235.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC47F37C091 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com) Received: (from wysoft@localhost) by wysoft.tzo.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5RDRbs14949; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Wyman Message-Id: <200006271327.e5RDRbs14949@wysoft.tzo.com> To: peter@gradwell.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-RELEASE -> 4 Stable, error making tools. In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000627121230.04632d20@mail.gradwell.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG segv's can often be caused by hardware problems, as you stated. Usually CPU, cache, or memory can be culprits. You might try entering your BIOS setup and use conservative memory timings, turn off some "optimizations" relating to this hardware, or maybe even underclock your CPU temporarily. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 8:40:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from terra.whro.org (terra.whro.org [205.130.90.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD35737C098 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bob.Boone@whro.org) Received: by terra.whro.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:40:23 -0400 Message-ID: <5E2A7CADC3FAD311A3C80090271EF40A091D1B@terra.whro.org> From: Bob Boone To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:40:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What plans do you have to get the NEW 4.x version into Comp-USA and other stores, as you did for one of the last versions. I checked the shelves recently and found 6 different versions/packages of Linux -- no FreeBSD !! It was great to pick up the CDs and book at one-stop, instead of the overnight-download-install-over-the-internet thing that I've done for earlier versions . . . . . > > > > > bob -----Original Message----- From: Sergei Vyshenski [mailto:svysh@pn.sinp.msu.ru] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 6:34 PM To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available for x86 So FreeBSD has two stable branches? Which one is more stable among stable for i386? Say for use at a site that need reliable round-the-clock gatewaing, named and mail operation? Thanks in advance for any comment. Sergei At 18:23 24.06.00 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >I'm pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE, the very >LAST in 3.x-STABLE branch technology. Following the release of FreeBSD 3.4 >in December, 1999, many bugs were fixed, important security issues dealt >with, and even a few new features added. Please see the release notes >for more information. > >This release will only be done for the i386 architecture. If you >want to run FreeBSD on the Alpha architecture, please install >4.0-RELEASE - it's much better suited for that platform. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 8:53:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3931A37B743 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA40518; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:52:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <3958CDD4.7731F76F@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:52:52 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Boone Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . References: <5E2A7CADC3FAD311A3C80090271EF40A091D1B@terra.whro.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just bought the FreeBSD PowerPack 4.0 from CompUSA yesterday here in Dallas. MicroCenter listed 4.0 in a mailing, but they didn't have any on the shelves. Bob Boone wrote: > > What plans do you have to get the NEW 4.x version into Comp-USA and other > stores, as you did for one of the last versions. I checked the shelves > recently and found 6 different versions/packages of Linux -- no FreeBSD !! > > It was great to pick up the CDs and book at one-stop, instead of the > overnight-download-install-over-the-internet thing that I've done for > earlier versions . . . . . > > > > > > > bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sergei Vyshenski [mailto:svysh@pn.sinp.msu.ru] > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 6:34 PM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available for x86 > > So FreeBSD has two stable branches? > Which one is more stable among stable for i386? > Say for use at a site that need reliable round-the-clock > gatewaing, named and mail operation? > > Thanks in advance for any comment. > Sergei > > At 18:23 24.06.00 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >I'm pleased to announce the availability of FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE, the very > >LAST in 3.x-STABLE branch technology. Following the release of FreeBSD 3.4 > >in December, 1999, many bugs were fixed, important security issues dealt > >with, and even a few new features added. Please see the release notes > >for more information. > > > >This release will only be done for the i386 architecture. If you > >want to run FreeBSD on the Alpha architecture, please install > >4.0-RELEASE - it's much better suited for that platform. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 9:23:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F17F37C0DE for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA74701; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:23:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA46800; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:21:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006271621.KAA46800@harmony.village.org> To: "Francisco Reyes" Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:34:00 EDT." <200006271137.HAA33634@sanson.reyes.somos.net> References: <200006271137.HAA33634@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:21:33 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006271137.HAA33634@sanson.reyes.somos.net> "Francisco Reyes" writes: : The part missing was about a file that had moved in stable. Which file? That I'm unaware of, but if true needs to be corrected. The only one relevant I can recall is maybe mknod. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 9:25:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mb03.swip.net (mb03.swip.net [193.12.122.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63A337C339 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi6@swipnet.se) Received: from highlight.hopey.mdf (d212-151-188-230.swipnet.se [212.151.188.230]) by mb03.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19112 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:23:36 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:19:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Hampus Linden X-Sender: mi6@highlight.hopey.mdf To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 11:41: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pinenut.nosc.mil (pinenut.nosc.mil [198.253.4.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57DE37C1F3 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syed@pinenut.nosc.mil) Received: (from syed@localhost) by pinenut.nosc.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA76706; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syed) From: User syed Syed Message-Id: <200006271840.LAA76706@pinenut.nosc.mil> Subject: help with compile error: buildworld To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: syed@nosc.mil X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG . . . ibrsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsar_err.c /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref.c /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref_stubs.c cd /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa; make _EXTRADEPEND echo librsaUSA.so.1: /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/openssl/opensslconf.h >> .depend ===> libssh make: don't know how to make aux.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. thanks/basit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 11:45:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7A137C27C for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08712; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:45:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Bob Boone Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:40:23 EDT." <5E2A7CADC3FAD311A3C80090271EF40A091D1B@terra.whro.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:45:50 -0700 Message-ID: <8709.962131550@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What plans do you have to get the NEW 4.x version into Comp-USA and other > stores, as you did for one of the last versions. I checked the shelves > recently and found 6 different versions/packages of Linux -- no FreeBSD !! We've just redesigned the box and prepped the channel to accept the newer FreeBSD products. The channel doesn't move as fast as our release engineering does since for them to do so would result in a lot of product coming back. It sometimes takes them a couple of months just to get the stuff on the shelves after we ship it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 11:49:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from out3.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (out3.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.3.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FF537B61F for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cortex@execpc.com) Received: from earth (cortex@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by out3.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19557 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:49:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:49:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Thomas M Duffey To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Tracking stable branch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD Users, I'm fairly new to FreeBSD (although I have years of experience with Slackware, kinda similar...) and have recently come across a FreeBSD 4-RELEASE machine that was setup almost right when the 4-RELEASE branch emerged. I would like to merge any updates committed to the stable branch to this installation. Unfortunately, I've only been on this list now for a few days so I'm not aware of any special instructions required to perform the upgrade. Is there an archive of issues requiring special attention anywhere? Or is it safe to just go ahead and perform the upgrade using cvsup? Regards, Tom Duffey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 11:54:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from staff.nyi.net (staff.nyi.net [204.248.157.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44D2437C1D6 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Received: (qmail 87838 invoked by uid 1004); 27 Jun 2000 18:52:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20000627185201.87837.qmail@staff.nyi.net> From: "javier" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Host Resources Library Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:52:00 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm wondering, does anyone know of any other unix host resources library besides libGtop ,http://www.home-of-linux.org/gnome/libgtop/ , preferebably on a BSD license? If there isn't, is there any ongoing project to start one, am wondering, cause i have recently come up to many situations where such a library would be very useful, and am pondering whether i should take the plunge, and actually write one myself. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 11:57:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.server.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A71537BDEA for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.87.0]) by mta02-svc.server.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000627195712.ZJDL10065.mta02-svc.server.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:57:12 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00715; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:57:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:57:37 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Harry Putnam Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 Message-ID: <20000627195737.A232@parish> References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 04:42:09PM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 04:42:09PM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Ovens writes: > > > If Alexey wants underlining to appear as yellow on black as he says > > then in /usr/share/misc/termcap change the line > > > > :tc=cons25w: > > > > in the definition of > > > > cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ > > > > to > > > > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: > > ^^ ^^ > > || fg colour > > || > > bg colour I just noticed a typo there, 34 is blue, yellow is 33 (nit that it matters I guess). > > > > then, as root, run ``cd /usr/share/misc ; cap_mkdb termcap'' and then > > try ``man chmod'' on the console. > > > > For a visual "list" of colour combinations, run this script (the > > numbers along the top of the display are the bg colours and the ones > > at the left are the fg colours): > > Good info here, I'm still bogged down trying to get a network up on a > laptop with FreeBSD so getting tired of the obnoxious highlighting > since I'm pooring thru manpages constantly right now. Not that > familiar with FreeBSD and its just enough different from Linux that > most tools don't act quite the same. > > > Doug Writes: > > > So the issue boils down to whether you want to see italic as > > highlighting. If not, I'm sure there's a way to prevent it. I'm using > > TERM=vt102, and I don't see any highlighting at all. > > Thanks Doug, thats a quick fix for now... Mark has posted a full blown > way to fix it permanently. -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 11:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA2D37BDEA for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5CC003E47; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:58:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:58:27 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Thomas M Duffey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tracking stable branch Message-ID: <20000627205827.B4834@skriver.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from cortex@execpc.com on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 01:49:38PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 01:49:38PM -0500, Thomas M Duffey wrote: > Dear FreeBSD Users, > > I'm fairly new to FreeBSD (although I have years of experience with > Slackware, kinda similar...) and have recently come across a FreeBSD > 4-RELEASE machine that was setup almost right when the 4-RELEASE branch > emerged. I would like to merge any updates committed to the stable branch > to this installation. Unfortunately, I've only been on this list now for > a few days so I'm not aware of any special instructions required to > perform the upgrade. Is there an archive of issues requiring special > attention anywhere? Or is it safe to just go ahead and perform the > upgrade using cvsup? Read the handbook regarding updating, and to the cvsup, make buildworld, make installworld, and rebuild your kernel, and you should be done. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 11:59: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E0337C2C0 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.188]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:00:11 -0700 Message-ID: <3958F962.FAEAB3EC@3-cities.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:58:42 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: syed@nosc.mil Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with compile error: buildworld References: <200006271840.LAA76706@pinenut.nosc.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG User syed Syed wrote: > > . > . > . > ibrsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/urandom\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsar_err.c /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref.c /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref_stubs.c > cd /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa; make _EXTRADEPEND > echo librsaUSA.so.1: /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/openssl/opensslconf.h >> .depend I would guess up front that you didn't cvsup "cvs-crypto". Kent > ===> libssh > make: don't know how to make aux.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > thanks/basit > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 12: 0:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.udel.edu (math.udel.edu [128.175.16.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D47137C29E for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schwenk@math.udel.edu) Received: from math.udel.edu (sisyphus.math.udel.edu [128.175.16.167]) by math.udel.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18112; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3958F9CA.478D84CD@math.udel.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:00:26 -0400 From: Peter Schwenk Organization: University of Delaware X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, de, ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas M Duffey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tracking stable branch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's the way I did it, and it worked fine. I used the information in the handbook about making world and cvsup. I used the example supfile, /usr/share/examples/cvsup/4.x-stable-supfile. Thomas M Duffey wrote: > Dear FreeBSD Users, > > I'm fairly new to FreeBSD (although I have years of experience with > Slackware, kinda similar...) and have recently come across a FreeBSD > 4-RELEASE machine that was setup almost right when the 4-RELEASE branch > emerged. I would like to merge any updates committed to the stable branch > to this installation. Unfortunately, I've only been on this list now for > a few days so I'm not aware of any special instructions required to > perform the upgrade. Is there an archive of issues requiring special > attention anywhere? Or is it safe to just go ahead and perform the > upgrade using cvsup? > > Regards, > > Tom Duffey > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- PETER SCHWENK | Campus IT Associate 3 Department of Mathematical Sciences | University of Delaware schwenk@math.udel.edu | (302)831-0437 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 12: 3:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558B037C1FD for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5RJ2tn28131; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200006271902.e5RJ2tn28131@ptavv.es.net> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Bob Boone , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:45:50 PDT." <8709.962131550@localhost> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:02:55 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sunday I was at CompUSA and I found a box with the familiar little devil on it. It had the BSDi logo and claimed to be BSD/OS. It also stated that it included FreeBSD 4.0. I assume that this is the first product of the BSDi/ Walnut Creek CD-ROM merger. Is this the future of FreeBSD distribution? R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 12:19:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC3037B642 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.188]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:20:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3958FE19.387E4B7@3-cities.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:18:49 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas M Duffey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tracking stable branch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas M Duffey wrote: > > Dear FreeBSD Users, > > I'm fairly new to FreeBSD (although I have years of experience with > Slackware, kinda similar...) and have recently come across a FreeBSD > 4-RELEASE machine that was setup almost right when the 4-RELEASE branch > emerged. I would like to merge any updates committed to the stable branch > to this installation. Unfortunately, I've only been on this list now for > a few days so I'm not aware of any special instructions required to > perform the upgrade. Is there an archive of issues requiring special > attention anywhere? Or is it safe to just go ahead and perform the > upgrade using cvsup? You need to use the 4.x-stable-supfile. It can be found in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/4.x-stable-supfile. This keeps your system up todate on the both crypto and the source. A default 4.0 install probably has some crypton turned on and you probably have to have both present before the buildworld will work. The /etc has changed quite a bit but mergemaster will take care of that once you have finished doing the installworld and kernel install. I don't let mergemaster upgrade my /etc/hosts or group files. That is a quick way to lose all of your users. I personally do a buildworld, config, the makes and install the kernel and reboot to single user mode to finish the installworld. My reasoning is that if your new kernel doesn't work, you can recover using your /kernel.old if you haven't done an installworld first. The handbook has a section on "Making the world your own", which covers all of this. The kernel and the world are a matched pair. Once you cvsup your sources, you can't expect to just build a new kernel and have it work. Since it is you and not me, not doing both may work :). A buildworld of 4.0-stable requires around 4000 seconds on my P-II 400 machines. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 12:20: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC0B337C320 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:19:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 30862 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jun 2000 19:19:52 -0000 Received: from p3e9c35b7.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.156.53.183) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 19:19:52 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29218 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:53:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:53:47 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xe in 4.0-S (was: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624) Message-ID: <20000627195346.O9883@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> <200006270636.AAA32183@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200006270636.AAA32183@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:36:28AM -0600 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 00:36 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > If you are trying to install from scratch on a laptop, and > don't have a NetGear pccard card (or anything cardbus), then > I'd suggest installing from the latest 4.0-stable snapshot > rather than from 4.0 release. If you do have a netgear card, > I'm sorry. Some of the newer ones just don't work yet and need > a lot of help. Is there still some work done on the xe driver? I have a Toshiba satellite (very early model 210cs) which works fine with a 3x589e and the ep driver. But a Xircom "Power Series CreditCard Ethernet Adapter" (PS-CE2-10) constantly has problems detecting and *keeping* the media connection. After booting (or loading the driver, respectively) it takes quite some time to see which media is connected (TP constantly). That's something one could easily live with. But after some idle time or even in the middle of a connection (i.e. traffic doesn't matter) the network connections stall and syslog messages scroll by looking like media is renegotiated or scanned and detected or something (sorry, I lack better words, and I just see "intr disabled, selecting 10baseX, intr enabled"). After this artificial pause packets can flow again -- until the next "irritation" which will be only a few seconds away. All this time nothing is done to the card or cable or something (the device is even stable on a desk and definitely doesn't get moved). Which info can I provide besides 'uname -a' and /v/l/m at initialization and failure time to surround and kill the problem? The software environment is FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE from around 2000/06/20 (the latest xe commits are in it, I follow cvs-all and didn't miss any change in this area). The PCMCIA controller is an ISA version of the i82c365. Sorry for being this vague, but I don't have the gadget around right now. But I could provide anything you want in a two days period. I'm volunteering to test whatever debugging and logging code you need to run. :) And the problem is quite persistent -- I have it with three different cards of this type and they work in other machines (although not with BSD and I don't have a chance to test this as I don't have STABLE CDs or booting media). virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 12:27:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7458A37C1F3 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09019; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Kevin Oberman" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Bob Boone , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:02:55 PDT." <200006271902.e5RJ2tn28131@ptavv.es.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:27:43 -0700 Message-ID: <9016.962134063@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Sunday I was at CompUSA and I found a box with the familiar little > devil on it. It had the BSDi logo and claimed to be BSD/OS. It also > stated that it included FreeBSD 4.0. I assume that this is the first > product of the BSDi/ Walnut Creek CD-ROM merger. I don't know of any product we have in the channel which claims to be BSD/OS. Are you totally positive? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 12:59:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21F337BCA8 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.85.169]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000627195910.FSLS290.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:59:10 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01277; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:54:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:54:05 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Harry Putnam Cc: Andrew Johns , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 Message-ID: <20000627205405.E232@parish> References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> <39582DD1.581CAB6D@kpi.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 04:20:56AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 04:20:56AM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > NOTE: Posted to freebsd-stable incase anyone else can see the error > > Andrew Johns writes: > > > See inline comments below. > > > > Harry Putnam wrote: > > > > > > Harry Putnam writes: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ > > > :ac=l\332m\300k\277j\331u\264t\303v\301w\302q\304x\263n\305`^Da\ > > > 260f\370g\361~\371.^Y-^Xh\261i^U0\333y\363z\362:\ > > > > Make CERTAIN that the line above has no spaces and no end-of-line or > > carriage returns in it - it must all be on one line (although the terminal > > may wrap it for display purposes - beware of the difference) > > > > NOTE: I had to break the line for mail purposes. Also check that the VERY > > LAST character is the '\' after the ':' - there MUST NOT be any characters > > after the '\' else it will never work. > > > > Good luck this time perhaps... :) > > This is turning into a real exercise in scrutiny.. Studying the original > termcap compared to termcap.tmp (edited) I see no extraneous junk in there. > Although admittedly I'm not very experienced with this. > > Further this is not a huge issue, but very curious now as to what I'm > doing wrong here. > > Using `vim :2374 2382 list' to see all characters it looks ok but > still I get the same output when running `cap_mkdb'. Then my term cap > is trashed, so that trying to start emacs to view the file termcap > gives me .."terminal type "cons25" is not powerful enough to run > Emacs ....." > > And `man chmod' shows no highlighting whatever > > OK. `cp termcap-orig termcap; cap_mkdb termcap' > > Back to square one. Everything works as before. (White Reverse > video highlighting at `man ') > > So, in an effort to make sure I only replace: > :tc=cons25w: > > with: > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: > > I tried using tools so as not to rely on my eyesight too much: > > # ed termcap-orig > 188977 > 2379p > :tc=cons25w: > 2379 s/:tc=cons25w/:us=\\\E[40;34;1m:ue=\\\E[m:tc=cons25w:/ > > 2379p > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: > w termcap.tmp > 18999 > q > > # diff termcap-orig termcap.tmp > > 2379c2379 > < :tc=cons25w: > --- > > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: > > > # cp termcap.tmp termcap > > Now running `cap_mkdb termcap' produces the same output: > > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25|ansis|ansi80x25 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons25-m|ansis-mono|ansi80x25-mono > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30|ansi80x30 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons30-m|ansi80x30-mono > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43|ansi80x43 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons43-m|ansi80x43-mono > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50|ansil|ansi80x50 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons50-m|ansil-mono|ansi80x50-mono > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60|ansi80x60 > cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: cons60-m|ansi80x60-mono > I've never seen those messages before, but they suggest that you've removed the cons25w entry (the one above cons25). ``tc=cons25w'' means, effectively, set everything else to be the same as cons25w. As others have pointed out, termcap is very sensitive to trailing whitespace. I've sent you my termcap file in a private e-mail. That definitely works, see what you get with it (you'll need to run cap_mkdb on it). You should see ``mode file ....'' at the end of the SYNOPSIS line in the chmod manpage in yellow. HTH > Which trashes termcap : > # emacs termcap > > emacs: Terminal type "cons25" is not powerful enough to run Emacs. > It lacks the ability to position the cursor. > If that is not the actual type of terminal you have, > use the Bourne shell command `TERM=... export TERM' (C-shell: > `setenv TERM ...') to specify the correct type. It may be necessary > to do `unset TERMCAP' (C-shell: `unsetenv TERMCAP') as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 12:59:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF46737BB62 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.85.169]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000627195919.FSMV290.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:59:19 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01304; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:58:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:58:17 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Francisco Reyes Cc: Warner Losh , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , Joe Royce Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Message-ID: <20000627205817.G232@parish> References: <200006270640.AAA32272@harmony.village.org> <200006271149.HAA33671@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006271149.HAA33671@sanson.reyes.somos.net>; from fran@reyes.somos.net on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 07:45:35AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 07:45:35AM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:08 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > >What update is needed? The instructions worked fine for me last time > >I tried it? > > As of version 1.73.2.6 > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/genassym > make depend all install clean ^^^^^^^ > cd ../../usr.sbin/config > make depend all install clean ^^^^^^^ Don't do ``clean'' here. {genassym,config}.o are required later. > > > There is an entry about genassym on 19991223, but this is not > part of the instructions on how to upgrade. > This was the part that was missing. There was another part that > I didn't read properly due to the "note" system of putting > comments below. > > It may be somewhat better to have the instructions in a linear > fashion instead of having the notes below. > For example > [3] > cd /usr/src > [2] > make buildworld > > cd /usr/src/sys/modules > make install > cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod > make install > [1] > reboot > > The notes for [1], [2], [3], could be embedded within the text. > A table may be a good setup for this. Sure it would be a pain to > setup for the first time, but after that it won't be much more > difficult to maintain. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 12:59:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885AD37BF5A for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.85.169]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000627195925.FSNT290.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:59:25 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01247; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:43:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:43:18 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Harry Putnam Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 Message-ID: <20000627204318.D232@parish> References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from reader@newsguy.com on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 04:42:09PM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 04:42:09PM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Ovens writes: > > > If Alexey wants underlining to appear as yellow on black as he says > > then in /usr/share/misc/termcap change the line > > > > :tc=cons25w: > > > > in the definition of > > > > cons25|ansis|ansi80x25:\ > > > > to > > > > :us=\E[40;34;1m:ue=\E[m:tc=cons25w: > > ^^ ^^ > > || fg colour > > || > > bg colour > > > > then, as root, run ``cd /usr/share/misc ; cap_mkdb termcap'' and then > > try ``man chmod'' on the console. > > > > For a visual "list" of colour combinations, run this script (the > > numbers along the top of the display are the bg colours and the ones > > at the left are the fg colours): > > Good info here, I'm still bogged down trying to get a network up on a > laptop with FreeBSD so getting tired of the obnoxious highlighting > since I'm pooring thru manpages constantly right now. Not that > familiar with FreeBSD and its just enough different from Linux that > most tools don't act quite the same. > > > Doug Writes: > > > So the issue boils down to whether you want to see italic as > > highlighting. If not, I'm sure there's a way to prevent it. I'm using > > TERM=vt102, and I don't see any highlighting at all. > > Thanks Doug, thats a quick fix for now... Mark has posted a full blown > way to fix it permanently. Permanently that is until you cvsup the sources when it will get reverted (because the checksum doesn't match cvsup will assume it's corrupt). > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 13: 1:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C9037B559 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:01:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA75772; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:01:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA48770; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006271959.NAA48770@harmony.village.org> To: Mark Ovens Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: Francisco Reyes , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , Joe Royce In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:58:17 BST." <20000627205817.G232@parish> References: <20000627205817.G232@parish> <200006270640.AAA32272@harmony.village.org> <200006271149.HAA33671@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:59:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000627205817.G232@parish> Mark Ovens writes: : On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 07:45:35AM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: : > On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:08 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: : > : > >What update is needed? The instructions worked fine for me last time : > >I tried it? : > : > As of version 1.73.2.6 : > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/genassym : > make depend all install clean : ^^^^^^^ : > cd ../../usr.sbin/config : > make depend all install clean : ^^^^^^^ : : Don't do ``clean'' here. {genassym,config}.o are required later. I don't see these in my version of UPDATING, which is 1.73.2.6. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 13: 9:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4FF37BB50 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26784; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:09:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200006272009.NAA26784@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <5E2A7CADC3FAD311A3C80090271EF40A091D1B@terra.whro.org> from Bob Boone at "Jun 27, 0 11:40:23 am" To: Bob.Boone@whro.org (Bob Boone) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:09:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Bob Boone wrote: > What plans do you have to get the NEW 4.x version into Comp-USA and > other stores, as you did for one of the last versions. I checked the > shelves recently and found 6 different versions/packages of Linux -- > no FreeBSD !! Last time I was in Fry's, there were about a half-dozen of the PowerPak boxes. Sticker said version 3.3 inside... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 13: 9:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8833437B642 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:09:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.85.169]) by mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000627200940.MDYK381.mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:09:40 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01385; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:09:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:09:36 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Warner Losh Cc: Francisco Reyes , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , Joe Royce Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Message-ID: <20000627210936.H232@parish> References: <20000627205817.G232@parish> <200006270640.AAA32272@harmony.village.org> <200006271149.HAA33671@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000627205817.G232@parish> <200006271959.NAA48770@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006271959.NAA48770@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 01:59:43PM -0600 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 01:59:43PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000627205817.G232@parish> Mark Ovens writes: > : On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 07:45:35AM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > : > On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:08 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > : > > : > >What update is needed? The instructions worked fine for me last time > : > >I tried it? > : > > : > As of version 1.73.2.6 > : > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/genassym > : > make depend all install clean > : ^^^^^^^ > : > cd ../../usr.sbin/config > : > make depend all install clean > : ^^^^^^^ > : > : Don't do ``clean'' here. {genassym,config}.o are required later. > > I don't see these in my version of UPDATING, which is 1.73.2.6. > Just checked mine, 1.73.2.5, on they're not there either. They were though when I u/g 3.4-S -> 4.0-S and I had the same problem as Francisco - the error about missing genassym. Sounds like he needs to update UPDATING ;) > Warner -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 13:10:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E172037B642 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA75853; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:10:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA48908; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:08:37 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006272008.OAA48908@harmony.village.org> To: Mark Ovens Subject: Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable Cc: Francisco Reyes , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , Joe Royce In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:09:36 BST." <20000627210936.H232@parish> References: <20000627210936.H232@parish> <20000627205817.G232@parish> <200006270640.AAA32272@harmony.village.org> <200006271149.HAA33671@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000627205817.G232@parish> <200006271959.NAA48770@harmony.village.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:08:37 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000627210936.H232@parish> Mark Ovens writes: : Just checked mine, 1.73.2.5, on they're not there either. They were : though when I u/g 3.4-S -> 4.0-S and I had the same problem as : Francisco - the error about missing genassym. : : Sounds like he needs to update UPDATING ;) Yes. It was in the 4.0 release updating. Which was wrong which is why I changed it :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 13:59:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.wplus.net (relay.wplus.net [195.131.52.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BE137B73D for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) Received: from kernigan.wplus.net (kernigan.wplus.net [195.131.52.178]) by relay.wplus.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/wplus.2) with ESMTP id AAA41238 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:59:20 +0400 (MSD) X-Real-To: Received: from lev.sereb.net (ip85-202.dialup.wplus.net [195.131.85.202]) by kernigan.wplus.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/wplus.2) with ESMTP id AAA19311 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:59:18 +0400 (GMT+0400) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:58:32 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) Reply-To: Lev Serebryakov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <640.000628@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: All Subject: 3.5-STABLE problems with /bin/sh Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All! I've compiled 3.5-STABLE about 10 hours ago, and found very strange bug in new /bin/sh (I had used old 3.4-STABLE without any problems): I have some scripts, which generate output in codepage CP866 (Russian DOS codepage). New sh trapped, if here is some russian letters from CP866 in script. I've tested all letters and found these: Russian big V (0x82): Abort trap (core dumped) Russian big D (0x84): Segmentation fault (core dumped) Russian big E (0x85): Segmentation fault (core dumped) Russian big Ze (0x87): missing CTLARI (shouldn't happen) Russian big R (0x90): Crash, and parent shell hangs up too!. Russian big ?? (0x9B): Abort trap (core dumped) These scripts work perfectly under 3.4-STABLE (old one). Lev Serebryakov, 2:5030/661.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 14:22:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wat-border.sentex.ca (waterloo-hespler.sentex.ca [199.212.135.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CA437C264; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:22:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by wat-border.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08845; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:22:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA01491; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000627171840.031b45f0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:18:40 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Strange FreeBSD 4.x network problems with SQUID Cc: stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am just starting to play with Squid 2.3 on a box with 512M of RAM, (configured for 256 users in the kernel with no other special tweaks). I notice that after a few hrs, the server becomes extremely 'jerky' in that my ssh session freezes (same results when physically on the console) for a good 5-10 seconds where I have a quick window to kill squid. Once it is dead, all comes back to normal until again soon after it becomes rather sluggish. It seems some resource is being starved or over loaded some how, but I am not sure where to look beyond the obvious places. I had a look at the FreeBSD related threads on the squid list and didnt see anything obviously related to my situation. I did read http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/FAQ/FAQ-9.html#paging which talks about paging and the "'memory_pools off'" off issue and FreeBSD. I have tried setting it to 'memory_pools off' to see if it makes a difference... Dont know yet. One thing I found in the archives that *might* be related is KERN/19479, but thats a different version of SQUID on 3.x. 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #1: Tue Jun 27 15:32:46 EDT 2000 Here is a snapshot of various stats when the problem begins. UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 0 0 0 0 -18 0 0 0 sched DLs ?? 0:00.01 (swapper) 0 1 0 0 10 0 524 208 wait ILs ?? 0:00.01 /sbin/init - 0 2 0 0 -18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:00.74 (pagedaemon 0 3 0 0 18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:00.00 (vmdaemon) 0 4 0 0 -18 0 0 0 psleep DL ?? 0:00.12 (bufdaemon) 0 5 0 2 18 0 0 0 syncer DL ?? 6:59.12 (syncer) 0 32 1 0 18 0 208 64 pause Is ?? 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i 0 107 1 0 2 0 900 560 select Ss ?? 0:04.52 syslogd -s 1 110 1 0 2 0 888 428 select Is ?? 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/po 0 130 1 0 2 0 1024 684 select Is ?? 0:00.01 inetd -wWl 0 132 1 1 10 0 940 632 nanslp Ss ?? 0:00.10 cron 0 135 1 0 2 0 1408 968 select Ss ?? 0:00.23 sendmail: ac 0 139 1 0 2 0 1948 1068 select Is ?? 0:01.01 /usr/sbin/ss 0 276 139 0 2 0 2048 1288 select I ?? 0:00.54 sshd: mdtanc 0 556 130 4 2 0 1988 1192 select Is ?? 0:00.05 telnetd 65533 581 192 149 46 0 66368 65620 - R ?? 0:30.62 squid -NsY 65533 582 581 2 -6 0 816 304 piperd Is ?? 0:00.00 (unlinkd) (u 0 559 556 4 3 0 1020 564 ttyin Is+ p0 0:00.02 login -h gra 1001 277 276 0 18 0 1612 1260 pause Is p1 0:00.09 -tcsh (tcsh) 0 283 277 2 3 0 1628 1256 ttyin I+ p1 0:00.13 _su (tcsh) 0 200 1 2 3 0 1644 1260 ttyin Is+ v0 0:00.14 -tcsh (tcsh) 0 201 1 0 18 0 1644 1252 pause Ss v1 0:00.13 -tcsh (tcsh) 0 591 201 1 28 0 416 244 - R+ v1 0:00.00 ps -axl 0 202 1 0 3 0 904 536 ttyin Is+ v2 0:00.01 /usr/libexec 0 203 1 0 3 0 904 536 ttyin Is+ v3 0:00.01 /usr/libexec 0 204 1 0 3 0 904 536 ttyin Is+ v4 0:00.01 /usr/libexec 0 205 1 0 3 0 904 536 ttyin Is+ v5 0:00.01 /usr/libexec 0 206 1 0 3 0 904 536 ttyin Is+ v6 0:00.01 /usr/libexec 0 207 1 0 3 0 904 536 ttyin Is+ v7 0:00.01 /usr/libexec 0 186 1 0 2 0 2280 1344 select I con- 0:00.12 /usr/local/s 0 192 1 0 10 0 624 224 wait I con- 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr Memory statistics by bucket size Size In Use Free Requests HighWater Couldfree 16 670 1634 3524520 0 1280 32 384 0 319717 0 640 64 1945 103 972923 0 320 128 1179 5 3717 0 160 256 47155 93 314216 0 80 512 646 2818 1906029 0 40 1K 376 44 3340 0 20 2K 22 6 100 0 10 4K 17 1 48 0 5 8K 4 1 6 0 5 16K 8 0 8 0 5 32K 2 0 2 0 5 64K 2 0 2 0 5 128K 3 0 3 0 5 256K 2 0 2 0 5 Memory usage type by bucket size Size Type(s) 16 kld, proc-args, atexit, temp, sysctl, bus, rman, soname, pcb, mount, vnodes, ether_multi, routetbl, IpFw/IpAcct, Ip6Fw/Ip6Acct, key mgmt, p1003.1b, devbuf, isa_devlist 32 kld, sigio, proc-args, temp, ip6ndp, pgrp, proc, subproc, sysctl, bus, eventhandler, SWAP, soname, pcb, cluster_save buffer, vnodes, BPF, ifaddr, ether_multi, routetbl, in_multi, tseg_qent, devbuf, atkbddev 64 file, proc-args, lockf, temp, session, subproc, bus, eventhandler, rman, pcb, vfscache, cluster_save buffer, vnodes, ifaddr, ether_multi, routetbl, in6_multi, isadev, devbuf 128 ppbusdev, kld, timecounter, dev_t, proc-args, zombie, temp, cred, bus, ttys, soname, vfscache, cluster_save buffer, mount, vnodes, ifaddr, routetbl, ZONE, devbuf 256 file desc, proc-args, temp, subproc, bus, ttys, vnodes, ifaddr, routetbl, IpFw/IpAcct, Ip6Fw/Ip6Acct, NFS daemon, FFS node, devbuf 512 file desc, temp, ip6ndp, proc, bus, ioctlops, ptys, BIO buffer, mount, ifaddr, key mgmt, UFS mount, devbuf, isa_devlist 1K file desc, temp, bus, ioctlops, BIO buffer, NQNFS Lease, devbuf, isa_devlist 2K proc, bus, pcb, BIO buffer, UFS mount, devbuf 4K temp, bus, UFS mount, devbuf, memdesc 8K temp, shm, UFS mount, devbuf, mbuf 16K devbuf 32K devbuf 64K temp, UFS mount 128K NFS hash, UFS ihash, VM pgdata 256K SWAP, vfscache Memory statistics by type Type Kern Type InUse MemUse HighUse Limit Requests Limit Limit Size(s) ppbusdev 3 1K 1K 85720K 3 0 0 128 kld 7 1K 1K 85720K 40 0 0 16,32,128 timecounter 10 2K 2K 85720K 10 0 0 128 dev_t 529 67K 67K 85720K 529 0 0 128 file desc 33 9K 11K 85720K 607 0 0 256,512,1K file 74 5K 13K 85720K 957849 0 0 64 sigio 1 1K 1K 85720K 1 0 0 32 proc-args 27 1K 2K 85720K 1082 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 zombie 0 0K 1K 85720K 570 0 0 128 atexit 1 1K 1K 85720K 1 0 0 16 lockf 1 1K 1K 85720K 1187 0 0 64 temp 228 72K 85K 85720K 1512 0 0 16,32,64,128,256,512,1K,4K,8K,64K ip6ndp 1 1K 1K 85720K 3 0 0 32,512 pgrp 24 1K 1K 85720K 175 0 0 32 session 21 2K 2K 85720K 88 0 0 64 proc 7 5K 5K 85720K 8 0 0 32,512,2K subproc 77 7K 8K 85720K 1286 0 0 32,64,256 cred 15 2K 2K 85720K 244 0 0 128 sysctl 0 0K 1K 85720K 95 0 0 16,32 bus 327 34K 34K 85720K 445 0 0 16,32,64,128,256,512,1K,2K,4K eventhandler 13 1K 1K 85720K 13 0 0 32,64 SWAP 2 173K 173K 85720K 2 0 0 32,256K ioctlops 0 0K 1K 85720K 16 0 0 512,1K rman 56 4K 4K 85720K 94 0 0 16,64 shm 1 8K 8K 85720K 1 0 0 8K ttys 488 63K 63K 85720K 1268 0 0 128,256 ptys 3 2K 2K 85720K 3 0 0 512 soname 1 1K 1K 85720K 2577225 0 0 16,32,128 pcb 18 9K 10K 85720K 313413 0 0 16,32,64,2K BIO buffer 12 14K 71K 85720K 2611 0 0 512,1K,2K vfscache 1552 353K 353K 85720K 10524 0 0 64,128,256K cluster_save buffer 0 0K 1K 85720K 3739 0 0 32,64,128 mount 6 3K 3K 85720K 8 0 0 16,128,512 vnodes 20 5K 5K 85720K 249 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 BPF 12 1K 1K 85720K 12 0 0 32 ifaddr 54 13K 13K 85720K 54 0 0 32,64,128,256,512 ether_multi 56 3K 3K 85720K 56 0 0 16,32,64 routetbl 215 31K 35K 85720K 405 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 in_multi 3 1K 1K 85720K 3 0 0 32 IpFw/IpAcct 14 2K 2K 85720K 14 0 0 16,256 tseg_qent 0 0K 1K 85720K 316300 0 0 32 in6_multi 16 1K 1K 85720K 16 0 0 64 Ip6Fw/Ip6Acct 2 1K 1K 85720K 2 0 0 16,256 key mgmt 903 306K 1735K 85720K 2538775 0 0 16,512 NFS daemon 1 1K 1K 85720K 1 0 0 256 NQNFS Lease 1 1K 1K 85720K 1 0 0 1K NFS hash 1 128K 128K 85720K 1 0 0 128K p1003.1b 1 1K 1K 85720K 1 0 0 16 FFS node 46911 11728K 11744K 85720K 312993 0 0 256 UFS ihash 1 128K 128K 85720K 1 0 0 128K UFS mount 15 81K 81K 85720K 15 0 0 512,2K,4K,8K,64K VM pgdata 1 128K 128K 85720K 1 0 0 128K ZONE 20 3K 3K 85720K 20 0 0 128 isadev 13 1K 1K 85720K 13 0 0 64 devbuf 614 644K 644K 85720K 1025 0 0 16,32,64,128,256,512,1K,2K,4K,8K,16K,32K mbuf 1 8K 8K 85720K 1 0 0 8K memdesc 1 4K 4K 85720K 1 0 0 4K isa_devlist 0 0K 2K 85720K 19 0 0 16,512,1K atkbddev 2 1K 1K 85720K 2 0 0 32 Memory Totals: In Use Free Requests 14040K 1533K 7044633 699/2128/14592 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 192 mbufs allocated to data 507 mbufs allocated to packet headers 150/356/3648 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 1244 Kbytes allocated to network (38% in use) proxy1# netstat -na | wc 1422 8539 109275 proxy1# In terms of active connections, they are all generally of this variety Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.243.3128 192.168.1.242.3787 TIME_WAIT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.243.3128 192.168.1.242.3786 TIME_WAIT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.243.3128 192.168.1.242.3785 TIME_WAIT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.243.3128 192.168.1.242.3784 TIME_WAIT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.243.3128 192.168.1.242.3783 TIME_WAIT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.243.3128 192.168.1.242.3782 TIME_WAIT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.243.3128 192.168.1.242.3781 TIME_WAIT tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.243.3128 192.168.1.242.3780 TIME_WAIT proxy1# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 198399 29795 152733 16% / /dev/da0s1f 5931961 2240905 3216500 41% /usr /dev/da0s1e 1984479 28252 1797469 2% /var /dev/twed0e 77576569 5154208 66216236 7% /usr/local/squid/cache /dev/da2e 8695079 518685 7480788 6% /usr/local/squid/cache2 procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #1: Tue Jun 27 15:32:46 EDT 2000 mdtancsa@proxy1.sentex.ca:/usr/src/sys/compile/proxy1 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 467728506 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (467.73-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 536805376 (524224K bytes) config> q avail memory = 518565888 (506412K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc032b000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc032b09c. Preloaded elf module "twe.ko" at 0xc032b0ec. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 11 chip1: port 0x5000-0x500f at device 7.3 on pci0 ahc0: port 0xd400-0xd4ff mem 0xec200000-0xec200fff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0xd800-0xd83f mem 0xec000000-0xec0fffff,0xec201000-0xec201fff irq 12 at device 10. 0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:27:55:43 fxp0: supplying EUI64: 00:d0:b7:ff:fe:27:55:43 fxp1: port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem 0xec100000-0xec1fffff,0xec202000-0xec202fff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:23:66:76 twe0: <3ware Storage Controller> port 0xe000-0xe00f irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio4 at port 0x100-0x107 flags 0x404 on isa0 sio4: type 8250 sio5 at port 0x108-0x10f flags 0x404 on isa0 sio5: type 8250 sio6 at port 0x110-0x117 flags 0x404 on isa0 sio6: type 8250 sio7 at port 0x118-0x11f irq 7 flags 0x404 on isa0 sio7: type 8250 IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging limited to 20100 pack ets/entry by default IPv6 packet filtering initialized, logging limited to 100 packets/entry IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle twed0: <3ware RAID unit> on twe0 twed0: 78163MB (160078336 sectors) RAID 255 (unknown) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8709MB (17836668 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1110C) fxp0: starting DAD for fe80:0001::02d0:b7ff:fe27:5543 fxp1: starting DAD for fe80:0002::02d0:b7ff:fe23:6676 Any pointers on how to track down this issue or work around it ? Thanks, ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications mike@sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 14:47:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC9337BEE7 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000627214717.BQXZ26299.relay02@chello.nl>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:47:17 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02321; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:47:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:47:34 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kevin Oberman Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Bob Boone , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . Message-ID: <20000627234734.A2307@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <8709.962131550@localhost> <200006271902.e5RJ2tn28131@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006271902.e5RJ2tn28131@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:02:55PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:02:55PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Sunday I was at CompUSA and I found a box with the familiar little > devil on it. It had the BSDi logo and claimed to be BSD/OS. It also ^--- daemon, not devil... please. Or "beastie" or (only when Kirk is out of hearing range, "Chuck") W/ -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 15: 2:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F13B37BE14 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDC6138007 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21301; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:02:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14681.9330.448264.560959@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:02:26 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: panic with 20 ethernet interfaces reproducable. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With FreeBSD-stable (4.0-STABLE, this week's), I can reliably panic a machine with 20 dc ethernet interfaces by typing 'ifconfig -a' Here's some output. How do I find the actual culprit of the first panic? (Captured from a serial console) dc14: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:80:c8:ca:1d:0f media: autoselect (none) status: no carrier supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none dc15: flags=8802 mtu 1500 S ether 00:8t0:c8:ca:1d:10 o media: aputoselect (none)p status: no carreier supdported media: au toselect 100baseaTX t 100baseTX 10bas eT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none dc16: fla gs=8802 mtu 1500 bD ether 00:e80:c8:c9:70:59 media: uautoselect (noneg) status: no cargrier suepported media: arutoselect 100bas+eTX 100baseTX 10baxseT/UTP bt No such command db> trace Debugger(c025baa3) at Debugger+0x35 panic(c0281983,c0281f30,ca0a001c,c0281f24,ca09ff88) at panic+0x70 dblfault_handler(1c00,0,0,0,0) at dblfault_handler+0x47 db> ? Bad character ? db> help print p examine x search set write w delete d break dwatch watch step s continue c until next match trace call show ps gdb panic db> Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 19:16:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front.linuxcare.com.au (linuxcare.com.au [203.29.91.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B8637B755; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:16:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com ([203.17.0.42]) by front.linuxcare.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA05300; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:16:12 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: front.linuxcare.com.au: Host [203.17.0.42] claimed to be sydney.worldwide.lemis.com Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01652; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:16:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:16:12 +1000 From: Greg Lehey To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Message-ID: <20000628121611.C1504@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <20000626225629.A525@freebie.wbnet> <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20000627082648.A3475@freebie.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000627082648.A3475@freebie.wbnet> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 27 June 2000 at 8:26:49 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:03:49PM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 22:56:29 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: >>> I just got tons and tons of >>> >>> Jun 26 22:06:33 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,199762) >>> Jun 26 22:06:34 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,210275) >>> >>> (approx 10Mb worth of them). This was during a mpeg video playing operation. >>> >>> FreeBSD freebie.wbnet 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat Jun 24 16:52:41 CEST 2000 root@freebie.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE i386 >>> >>> System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. >>> >>> Any idea what is causing this? >> >> Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it's a bug in the APM code. It >> even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the >> kernel. > > No, it is an Abit KA7. But I will try removing apm, it is indeed in the > kernel. I'll see what happens next. Why does apm influence the time stuff? It changes the way the timer code works. I've been told various things, and have quoted some of them in the past, but it seems they may be wrong. As far as I can tell now, the issue is that microuptime() is not atomic, and it seems that it's possible for race conditions to arise where it's called reentrantly and returns the older time after returning a newer time. If this hypothesis is correct, you should also be able to eliminate the messages by putting a splhigh() around the body of microuptime() (in /sys/kern/kern_tc.c). This isn't the solution though, especially since we're removing spls with the new SMP code. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 19:27:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D57237C036 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reader@newsguy.com) Received: (qmail 27960 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 02:27:18 -0000 Received: from adsl-117-113.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.117.113) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 02:27:18 -0000 Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA32122; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:27:13 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624 References: <20000626195936.G232@parish> <20000626205828.I232@parish> <39582DD1.581CAB6D@kpi.com.au> <20000627205405.E232@parish> From: Harry Putnam Date: 27 Jun 2000 19:05:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: Mark Ovens's message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:54:05 +0100" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens writes: > I've never seen those messages before, but they suggest that you've > removed the cons25w entry (the one above cons25). ``tc=cons25w'' > means, effectively, set everything else to be the same as cons25w. > > As others have pointed out, termcap is very sensitive to trailing > whitespace. > > I've sent you my termcap file in a private e-mail. That definitely > works, see what you get with it (you'll need to run cap_mkdb on it). > You should see ``mode file ....'' at the end of the SYNOPSIS line in > the chmod manpage in yellow. I see yellow.. I'm not sure now I trashed that job. The regexp I posted was wrong but it was a typo here because I was transferring the stuff from a non-networked BSD machine to my main desktop by hand. But still somehow I botched up something in all those tiny little marks. I've worn out three pair of store bought cheaters on this. he he Trying it all again it worked ok. Thanks for the file... it works too. Running diff on your file and my edited one they are the same except for the 33 and 34 . Guess I did something right finally. And as you noticed it is blue. But if I want something else I might be able to handle that edit.... cp termcap.mark termcap .... now were talking Right now I think I like the blue. And thanks for your originall post showing how to do it. I'd never have tackled that file with out that post. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 19:32:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DB737B755 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:32:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5S2WWO79948; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:32:16 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Michel Oosterhof Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-Stable boot hangs In-Reply-To: <8ja71f$a24$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today Michel Oosterhof wrote: > imp@village.ORG (Warner Losh) writes: > > >Yes. We really need to split up the ed driver into three new drivers: > >ne (for the ne2000), smc (for the smc based card) and ls (for linksys, > >although my off the cuff name sucks). Probing is becoming much harder > >for these beasts and order is getting harder and harder to get right > >for every card on the planet :-( > > I also had problems with my latest kernel, that hangs at boot time right > after the parallel port (which is just before the ethernet devices, i think). > This could be a configuration error on my part, or maybe i walked into > the same bug as the poster here (it's an NE2000 clone card). Just thought > I'd let you know. I have the same problem, but only on one of two different motherboards with identical cheap NE2000 clones. Switching back to if_ed.c,v 1.173.2.3 2000/05/24 works for me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 20: 0:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com [207.46.181.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75F737B64C for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays@email.msn.com) Received: from KenMays - 63.25.195.48 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:59:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bfe0ac$09d7d640$30c3193f@KenMays> From: "kmays" To: "Kevin Oberman" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Bob Boone" , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" References: <9016.962134063@localhost> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:53:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The products are mainly FreeBSD 3.5 , FreeBSD 4.0, and BSDI Internet Server v4.1 as far as I know. I hope the 3.x build can be merged into future 4.x builds successfully so we can do away with 3.x. I don't think all of the bugs in 3.x will ever be fixed unless you freeze new features and try to fix all the old ones. My one issue is that its hard to tell what patch level or build anyone is on when they report bugs or issues. That might be an idea. If somebody was mentioning issues with a build, they could type a command like 'verbuild' and it would display "FreeBSD v3.5, b062700p13" or something like that. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" To: "Kevin Oberman" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" ; "Bob Boone" ; "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 3:27 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . > > Sunday I was at CompUSA and I found a box with the familiar little > > devil on it. It had the BSDi logo and claimed to be BSD/OS. It also > > stated that it included FreeBSD 4.0. I assume that this is the first > > product of the BSDi/ Walnut Creek CD-ROM merger. > > I don't know of any product we have in the channel which claims to > be BSD/OS. Are you totally positive? > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 20: 2:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (dsl-028-a.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.161.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F6437BFCF for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA87464; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:02:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:02:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: kmays Cc: Kevin Oberman , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Bob Boone , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <000501bfe0ac$09d7d640$30c3193f@KenMays> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You'd need the timestamp of checkout from CVS. It doesn't matter when they build it, it matters when they checked it out ;) -- Close your eyes. Now forget what you see. What do you feel? -- My heart. -- Come here. -- Your heart. -- See? We're exactly the same. Jon Smith -- Senior Math Major @ Purdue On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, kmays wrote: > The products are mainly FreeBSD 3.5 , FreeBSD 4.0, and BSDI Internet Server > v4.1 as far as I know. > > I hope the 3.x build can be merged into future 4.x builds > successfully so we can do away with 3.x. I don't think all of the bugs in > 3.x will ever be fixed unless you freeze new features and try to fix all the > old ones. > > My one issue is that its hard to tell what patch level or build anyone is on > when they report bugs or issues. That might be an idea. If somebody was > mentioning issues with > a build, they could type a command like 'verbuild' and it would display > "FreeBSD v3.5, b062700p13" or something like that. > > Ken > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > To: "Kevin Oberman" > Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" ; "Bob Boone" > ; "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 3:27 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . > > > > > Sunday I was at CompUSA and I found a box with the familiar little > > > devil on it. It had the BSDi logo and claimed to be BSD/OS. It also > > > stated that it included FreeBSD 4.0. I assume that this is the first > > > product of the BSDi/ Walnut Creek CD-ROM merger. > > > > I don't know of any product we have in the channel which claims to > > be BSD/OS. Are you totally positive? > > > > - Jordan > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 20:12:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CEC37C56D for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:11:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e5S3BWb28882 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:11:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200006280311.e5S3BWb28882@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: AMD K6-2 / 550 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:11:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I'm back... Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the 128MB memory. This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. Still have a problem with make world. HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can make worlds all day long with out an error. Anyone got a good explanation for this? Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if that makes a difference. Larry -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 20:15:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (ppp-140.dialup.clari.net.au [203.57.253.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B47B37C4D3 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00490; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:21:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200006280321.UAA00490@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:03:49 +1000." <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:21:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > > On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 22:56:29 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I just got tons and tons of > > > > Jun 26 22:06:33 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,199762) > > Jun 26 22:06:34 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,210275) > > > > (approx 10Mb worth of them). This was during a mpeg video playing operation. > > > > FreeBSD freebie.wbnet 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat Jun 24 16:52:41 CEST 2000 root@freebie.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE i386 > > > > System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. > > > > Any idea what is causing this? > > Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it's a bug in the APM code. It > even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the > kernel. I explained this to you at Usenix, actually. It has nothing to do with APM, it has to do with the selection of clocks available with/without APM compiled into the kernel - there is probably either a bug in the TSC hardware on this CPU, or (more likely) a bug in the timecounter code (since people see this on !APM systems already). -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 21: 1:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEB437B7FC for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28066; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:01:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200006280401.VAA28066@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <000501bfe0ac$09d7d640$30c3193f@KenMays> from kmays at "Jun 27, 0 10:53:25 pm" To: kmays@email.msn.com (kmays) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:01:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: oberman@es.net, jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com, Bob.Boone@whro.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, kmays wrote: > My one issue is that its hard to tell what patch level or build anyone > is on when they report bugs or issues. That might be an idea. If > somebody was mentioning issues with a build, they could type a command > like 'verbuild' and it would display "FreeBSD v3.5, b062700p13" or > something like that. I suggested something like that about two years ago. I wanted a slight change to CVS commit such that /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh were a dynamic file that reflected the last commit made to the particular branch. Then the output of a "uname -r" could absolutely identify where in the continuum of updates a particular system was fetched. I also suggested that the hack to support this could be in cvsup, if touching CVS was too sacred. It was generally argued against. Check the archives if you'd like to examine the whole thread. Typical arguments pointed out that the user could cvsup just the kernel sources, which would not accurately reflect what he's running. Same argument for building user-land without building a kernel. But I still think the idea has merit. There should be some way of unequivocally stating "I'm running , and stuff is broken since when I was running ". This "I'm running -stable, cvsup'd sometime early in June" just doesn't cut it when trying to track down the source of a breakage. Wanna resurrect the flame wars? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 21:31:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pilikia.net (pilikia.net [12.36.98.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8B637C0BC for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:31:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Received: from taz.pilikia.net (taz.pilikia.net [192.168.0.2]) by pilikia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA17327 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:31:23 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000627183123.00ba4ec0@pilikia.net> X-Sender: art@pilikia.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:31:23 -1000 To: stable@freebsd.org From: "Art Neilson, WH7N" Subject: lsof-4.49.3 on FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG lsof make blows up under 3.5-STABLE as shown below. has anyone else stumbled across this?? root@pilikia# make ===> Building for lsof-4.49.3 (cd lib; make DEBUG="-O2" CFGF="-pipe -DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS=1 -DHASFDLINK -DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS -DLSOF_VSTR=\"3.5-STABLE\"") cc -pipe -DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS=1 -DHASFDLINK -DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS -DLS OF_VSTR="3.5-STABLE" -I/usr/include -I/usr/src/sys -O2 -c ckkv.c In file included from ../dlsof.h:110, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/ufs/mfs/mfsnode.h:49: field `buf_queue' has incomplete type In file included from ../dlsof.h:121, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:219: parse error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:219: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:230: parse error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:230: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union In file included from ../dlsof.h:195, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/vm/vm_map.h:158: field `vm_pmap' has incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, WH7N - FISTS #7448 Bank of Hawaii Tech Support http://www.pilikia.net art@pilikia.net, aneilson@boh.com, wh7n@arrl.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 4: 8:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from macbeth.phy.hr (macbeth.phy.hr [161.53.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E0F37BE88 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkumer@macbeth.phy.hr) Received: (from kkumer@localhost) by macbeth.phy.hr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA49594 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:55:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kkumer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:55:00 +0200 From: Kresimir Kumericki To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.3- to 4.0-STABLE source upgrade Message-ID: <20000628125500.A49568@phy.hr> Reply-To: kkumer@phy.hr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 3.3-STABLE machine and I would like to upgrade it to 4.0-STABLE by cvsupping source. Is it possible to do this just by following instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING or should I *really* first make binary upgrade to 4.0 RELEASE? I'm asking this because of the following message I've found in archives: Kris Kennaway on Thu, 18 May 2000 wrote: > Updating from 3.X to 4.0-STABLE is not supported - you have to go to > 4.0-RELEASE, and then to -STABLE. > > Having said that, this was temporary tree breakage which is already fixed, > although trying to update to 4.0-S still may not work. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Kresimir Kumericki kkumer@phy.hr http://www.phy.hr/~kkumer/ Theoretical Physics Department, University of Zagreb, Croatia ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 4:38:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rush.telenordia.se (mail.telenordia.se [194.213.64.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDE8137BEAF for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pap@garen.net) Received: (qmail 15187 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 13:38:21 +0200 Received: from du35-152.ppp.algonet.se (HELO 302695) (195.100.152.35) by mail.telenordia.se with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 13:38:21 +0200 Received: (qmail 70074 invoked by uid 1004); 28 Jun 2000 11:37:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:37:53 +0200 From: Andreas Persson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.3- to 4.0-STABLE source upgrade Message-ID: <20000628133751.A70019@sophocles> Mail-Followup-To: Andreas Persson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000628125500.A49568@phy.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628125500.A49568@phy.hr>; from kkumer@phy.hr on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:55:00PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:55:00PM +0200, Kresimir Kumericki wrote: > I have a 3.3-STABLE machine and I would like to upgrade it >to 4.0-STABLE by cvsupping source. Is it possible to do this >just by following instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING or should >I *really* first make binary upgrade to 4.0 RELEASE? 3.4-RELASE -> 4.0-STABLE worked fine here. Had some additional problems which were due to not following /usr/src/UPDATING :). Since UPDATING explicitly mentions 3.x -> 4.0, I'd say its fixed. > I'm asking this because of the following message I've found >in archives: > >Kris Kennaway on Thu, 18 May 2000 wrote: >> Updating from 3.X to 4.0-STABLE is not supported - you have to go to >> 4.0-RELEASE, and then to -STABLE. >> >> Having said that, this was temporary tree breakage which is already fixed, >> although trying to update to 4.0-S still may not work. > > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------- >Kresimir Kumericki kkumer@phy.hr http://www.phy.hr/~kkumer/ >Theoretical Physics Department, University of Zagreb, Croatia >------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andreas Persson pap@garen.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 5:22:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDDA37B634 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@search.sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 0661ADAFE; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BA6DAFD; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Announce: -stable commit lists In-Reply-To: <70075.962023400@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 May 2000 07:52:09 -0400, David Miller wrote: > > > I've setup freebsd-stable-3 and freebsd-stable-4 majordomo lists at > > sparks.net. These use procmail to filter the RELENG_[3|4] messages out of > > cvs-all, so one can easily tell which commits affect them. > > Are you using the new X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch mail header? Answered in private email, telling the list now, yes, I am, thanks to Sheldon pointing out its existance. --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 6:48: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [207.8.42.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B928F37B692; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA84697; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:47:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:47:49 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: Greg Lehey Cc: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Message-ID: <20000628084749.A84134@luke.immure.com> Reply-To: Bob Willcox References: <20000626225629.A525@freebie.wbnet> <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20000627082648.A3475@freebie.wbnet> <20000628121611.C1504@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628121611.C1504@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:16:12PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:16:12PM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Tuesday, 27 June 2000 at 8:26:49 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:03:49PM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 22:56:29 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >>> I just got tons and tons of > >>> > >>> Jun 26 22:06:33 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,199762) > >>> Jun 26 22:06:34 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,210275) > >>> > >>> (approx 10Mb worth of them). This was during a mpeg video playing operation. > >>> > >>> FreeBSD freebie.wbnet 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat Jun 24 16:52:41 CEST 2000 root@freebie.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE i386 > >>> > >>> System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. > >>> > >>> Any idea what is causing this? > >> > >> Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it's a bug in the APM code. It > >> even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the > >> kernel. > > > > No, it is an Abit KA7. But I will try removing apm, it is indeed in the > > kernel. I'll see what happens next. Why does apm influence the time stuff? > > It changes the way the timer code works. I've been told various > things, and have quoted some of them in the past, but it seems they > may be wrong. As far as I can tell now, the issue is that > microuptime() is not atomic, and it seems that it's possible for race > conditions to arise where it's called reentrantly and returns the > older time after returning a newer time. If this hypothesis is > correct, you should also be able to eliminate the messages by putting > a splhigh() around the body of microuptime() (in /sys/kern/kern_tc.c). > This isn't the solution though, especially since we're removing spls > with the new SMP code. I just tried the splhigh() around microuptime() on my system here with this problem and it did not solve the problem. Removal of apm from the kernel seems to have, though. Note that this is an Abit KA7 board with a 700MHz Athlon CPU. Also, I have another system here with a similar configuration (same Abit board but with a 800MHz CPU in it and a SCSI disk vs. IDE) that doesn't suffer from this problem (with apm installed). Bob -- Bob Willcox Everyone complains of his memory, no one of bob@immure.com his judgement. Austin, TX -- anonymous To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 7:12:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cxi.cx (CXI.CX [208.138.115.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F2137BD84 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwsedlak@cxi.cx) Received: (from nwsedlak@localhost) by cxi.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA68796 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:12:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nwsedlak) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:12:06 -0400 From: Neil Sedlak To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lsof-4.49.3 on FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE Message-ID: <20000628101206.A67558@matrix.cxi.cx> References: <3.0.6.32.20000627183123.00ba4ec0@pilikia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000627183123.00ba4ec0@pilikia.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 06:31:23PM -1000, Art Neilson, WH7N wrote: > lsof make blows up under 3.5-STABLE as shown below. has anyone else > stumbled across this?? I have the same exact breakage from a cvsup during the afternoon (EST) of June 22. > ===> Building for lsof-4.49.3 My version of lsof is 4.49.2 > /usr/include/vm/vm_map.h:158: field `vm_pmap' has incomplete type -- Neil Sedlak nwsedlak@cxi.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 7:21:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sohara.dyndns.org (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D1137B87B; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:21:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sohara.dyndns.org) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sohara.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08455; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:28:59 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000628084749.A84134@luke.immure.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:28:59 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Bob Willcox Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, Greg Lehey Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28-Jun-00 Bob Willcox wrote: > with a 700MHz Athlon CPU. Also, I have another system here with a > similar configuration (same Abit board but with a 800MHz CPU in it and > a SCSI disk vs. IDE) that doesn't suffer from this problem (with apm > installed). Just as a datapoint, I get the microuptime going backwards messages on rare occasions (maybe once a week) from my Compaq laptop. I rather assume that the cause (race hazard ?) affects my system but that I rarely see the symptom, I can easily imagine it being rare enough to be invisible. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 7:27: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B56B37B93A; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C25E8D2; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA95615; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:26:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14682.2861.129077.336976@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:26:53 -0400 (EDT) To: "Art Neilson, WH7N" Cc: stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lsof-4.49.3 on FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000627183123.00ba4ec0@pilikia.net> References: <3.0.6.32.20000627183123.00ba4ec0@pilikia.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "ANW" == Art Neilson, WH7N writes: ANW> lsof make blows up under 3.5-STABLE as shown below. has anyone else ANW> stumbled across this?? This is probably better discussed in the ports mailing list... You missed the part of the build that goes like this: ===> Configuring for lsof-4.49.3 Unknown FreeBSD release: 3.5-STABLE Assuming FreeBSD 2.x ./Configure: /usr/sbin/sysctl: not found Which obviously will make for a very bad set of assumptions. The following patch to the lsof Configure script fixes it. I'll send-pr this now as well. --- Configure.orig Wed Jun 28 10:21:23 2000 +++ Configure Wed Jun 28 10:24:01 2000 @@ -830,6 +830,9 @@ 3.4*) LSOF_VERS=340 ;; + 3.5*) + LSOF_VERS=350 + ;; 4.0*) LSOF_VERS=400 ;; @@ -900,7 +903,7 @@ LSOF_CFGF="$LSOF_CFGF -DHASVMLOCKH" fi # } ;; - 300|310|320|330|340) + 300|310|320|330|340|350) LSOF_CFGL="-lkvm" if test -r ${LSOF_INCLUDE}/nfs/rpcv2.h # { then To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 7:32:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFC637B87E; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from enigmatic (dhcp1.intranet.tyfon.net [192.168.1.20]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 963AA1C5C9; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:32:11 +0200 (CEST) From: "Dan Larsson" To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , "Bob Willcox" Cc: , , "Greg Lehey" Subject: RE: microuptime() going backwards Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:31:56 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | Just as a datapoint, I get the microuptime going backwards messages | on rare occasions (maybe once a week) from my Compaq laptop. I rather assume | that the cause (race hazard ?) affects my system but that I rarely see the | symptom, I can easily imagine it being rare enough to be invisible. Someone suggested that I should compile my kernel with the line 'device apm0' commented out. This worked for me, but may not be something to aim for on a laptop (FYI: FreeBSD-4.0 STABLE). | Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 7:32:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pail.ircache.net (pail.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.28.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2B837B896 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rousskov@ircache.net) Received: from localhost (rousskov@localhost) by pail.ircache.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA08215; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:31:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from rousskov@ircache.net) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:31:48 -0600 (MDT) From: Alex Rousskov To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <200006280401.VAA28066@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > But I still think the idea has merit. There should be some way of > unequivocally stating "I'm running , and stuff is broken since > when I was running ". This "I'm running -stable, cvsup'd > sometime early in June" just doesn't cut it when trying to track > down the source of a breakage. As you pointed out, since people can sync only a part of their sources (a single file in the extreme case), your ultimate goal may not be reachable assuming that s and s strings are of a reasonable length. However, it seems to me that the "snapshot identifiers" (the and above) can be quite long and can represent the state of several (many) major chunks of the cvs tree. Each chunk gets a unique id that is automatically changed after each commit to that chunk. Commit time may be an acceptable identifier. The resulting "global" identifier would look like " ..." allowing developers to approximately identify the state of the code. Note that the string above can be MD5-ed and CRCed to make it shorter and more robust. One can make a tool that reconstructs the original identifier based on an MD5 digest by enumerating all known combinations of chunk identifiers (the digest can be constructed to assist with such a reconstruction, if needed). $0.02, Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 7:33:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rush.telenordia.se (mail.telenordia.se [194.213.64.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48B1937B9EC for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pap@garen.net) Received: (qmail 21489 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 16:33:07 +0200 Received: from du123-152.ppp.algonet.se (HELO 327219) (195.100.152.123) by mail.telenordia.se with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 16:33:07 +0200 Received: (qmail 71211 invoked by uid 1004); 28 Jun 2000 14:32:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:32:38 +0200 From: Andreas Persson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Message-ID: <20000628163236.A70918@sophocles> Mail-Followup-To: Andreas Persson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <200006280321.UAA00490@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006280321.UAA00490@mass.osd.bsdi.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:21:18PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:21:18PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >I explained this to you at Usenix, actually. It has nothing to do with >APM, it has to do with the selection of clocks available with/without APM >compiled into the kernel - there is probably either a bug in the TSC >hardware on this CPU, or (more likely) a bug in the timecounter code >(since people see this on !APM systems already). Setting the sysctl kern.timecounter.method to 1 seems to have solved this on one of my 4.0-RELEASE boxes. No microuptime() messages for almost 3 weeks now. >-- >\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith >\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com -- Andreas Persson pap@garen.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 7:56: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eve.framatome.fr (eve.framatome.fr [195.101.50.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA5137B9CA for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:56:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ubc@paris.framatome.fr) Received: from localhost (ubc@localhost) by eve.framatome.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA59405; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:55:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ubc@paris.framatome.fr) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:55:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Claude Buisson X-Sender: ubc@eve.framatome.fr To: Neil Sedlak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lsof-4.49.3 on FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE In-Reply-To: <20000628101206.A67558@matrix.cxi.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Neil Sedlak wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 06:31:23PM -1000, Art Neilson, WH7N wrote: > > lsof make blows up under 3.5-STABLE as shown below. has anyone else > > stumbled across this?? > I have the same exact breakage from a cvsup during the afternoon (EST) of > June 22. > > > ===> Building for lsof-4.49.3 > My version of lsof is 4.49.2 > > > /usr/include/vm/vm_map.h:158: field `vm_pmap' has incomplete type > > -- The current versions of lsof do not know about FreeBSD 3.5, but only about 3.4 and older, 4.0, 5.0. I modified the Configure script to test for 3.5* as the result of uname, leading to the version "350" (same as 3.4* => 340), and added support to 350 (same as for 340) later in the script. > Neil Sedlak > nwsedlak@cxi.cx > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Claude Buisson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 9:41:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from visionaire.ping.de (visionaire.ping.de [195.37.123.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A87E37B934 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@visionaire.ping.de) Received: from dante.visionaire.net (dante.visionaire.net [192.168.208.42]) by visionaire.ping.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24047; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:16:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thomas@dante.visionaire.net) Received: from thomas by dante.visionaire.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 137Gl9-0000Kb-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:16:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:16:03 +0200 To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: US FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: startup issues after mergemaster Message-ID: <20000628141602.A565@dante.visionaire.net> References: <39570DA1.27D98698@gorean.org> <20000626194920.J9883@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000626194920.J9883@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:49:20PM +0200 From: Thomas Keusch Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:49:20PM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > | > After doing a mergemaster of configuration files in /etc > > | > this morning (2000/06/26 08:00 CEST) the system fails to > > | > read /etc/rc.conf completely (stops after reading the top > > | > 3 lines, which are nic configparams). > > | > > | What clued you in to it stopping at exactly that point? > > > > On line four I have 'portmap_enable="NO"'. This as all the > > following lines are ignored. > > This sounds very much like an unterminated string -- the ticks / > quotes are opened but never closed. This way the assignment > continues till the EOF. And the RHS is somewhat defective. I had the same problem a few weeks ago. It had something to do with the firewall_* settings in /etc/rc.conf . The issue may have been caused by an weird combination of firewall_script pointing to a custom rc.firewall file and firewall_type being undefined or something similiar. I'm sorry I can't be more precise, as I don't have a copy of my old stuff left and have not had the time to figure out the exact reason back then either. So I suggest commenting out firewall_* and reboot, see if it works, and go from there. Check if you are using firewall_* as it is supposed, I found it to be a bit confusing sometimes. Oh, and don't lock yourself out! :-) -- thomas. .powered.by.debian/linux. .served.by.FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 10: 0:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB71537BED7 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708DB112D2; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:54:11 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:53:58 +0200 To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Brad Knowles Subject: regcomp(3) acting weird? Cc: Jens A Nilsson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I'm trying to use spegla 1.1p4 to mirror a particular site, and up until now I've not had any trouble. However, now I want to skip a particular subdirectory, and regcomp(3) looks to me like it's acting really weird. I would normally take this issue up just with the author, but it seems to me that the problem is with regcomp(3) and not spegla, so I figured I'd ask here as well. Here's the section of code (as it originally looked) that is calling regcomp(3): /* init the sp_skip struct */ struct sp_skip * sps_init(const char *arg) { size_t len; int cflags; struct sp_skip *sps; len = strlen(arg); if ((sps = calloc((size_t)1, sizeof(*sps) + len + 1)) == NULL) return NULL; /* LINTED save us from one calloc */ sps->sps_name = (char *)(sps + 1); (void) strcpy(sps->sps_name, arg); cflags = 0; cflags |= REG_EXTENDED; /* extended RE's */ cflags |= REG_NOSUB; /* only report match or no match */ sps->sps_reg_errno = regcomp(&sps->sps_reg, sps->sps_name, cflags); if (sps->sps_reg_errno != 0) { free(sps); return NULL; } return sps; } Here is the configuration file I'm using: version = 1.1 minfree = 102400 loglevel = 10 localdir = /home/ftp/mirror/interplay dodelete = yes remotedir = /pub skip = ^/movies username = anonymous password = ftp@skynet.be host = ftp.interplay.com timeout = 120 retries = 300 # busy ftp server and lots of files. # Takes lots of hours to complete # and don't want to quit when we are # almost finished. retrytime = 120 # if network goes down don't consume # all retries to fast. logfile = /var/log/ftpd/interplay.log lockfile = /var/run/interplay.lock However, spegla dies while trying to parse it: $ /usr/local/bin/spegla -f /usr/local/etc/spegla/interplay.conf spegla: sps_init: Undefined error: 0 The section of spegla.c that is calling this routine is: /* ARGSUSED */ static void add_param_sps(int option, const char *arg, struct cl_sps_que **q) { struct sp_skip *sps; option = 0; /* quiet gcc */ if (*q == NULL && ((*q = cl_sps_init()) == NULL)) e_err(1, "cl_sps_init"); if ((sps = sps_init(arg)) == NULL) e_err(1, "sps_init"); if (sps_error(sps)) e_errx(1, "sps_init: %s", sps_strerror(sps)); (void) cl_sps_push(*q, sps); } However, looking at this problem further, it appears that the error number regcomp(3) is returning is not *remotely* anywhere close to any of the standard REG_* error codes. I put in some stupid fprintf commands, and found the following values being set after the call to regcomp(3): sps->sps_name = ^/movies (int) &sps->sps_reg = 135192588 (int) &sps->sps_reg.re_endp = 135192596 sps->sps_reg_errno = 135196672 These are the definitions I can find for REG_* in /usr/include/regex.h: #define REG_BASIC 0000 #define REG_EXTENDED 0001 #define REG_ICASE 0002 #define REG_NOSUB 0004 #define REG_NEWLINE 0010 #define REG_NOSPEC 0020 #define REG_PEND 0040 #define REG_DUMP 0200 #define REG_NOMATCH 1 #define REG_BADPAT 2 #define REG_ECOLLATE 3 #define REG_ECTYPE 4 #define REG_EESCAPE 5 #define REG_ESUBREG 6 #define REG_EBRACK 7 #define REG_EPAREN 8 #define REG_EBRACE 9 #define REG_BADBR 10 #define REG_ERANGE 11 #define REG_ESPACE 12 #define REG_BADRPT 13 #define REG_EMPTY 14 #define REG_ASSERT 15 #define REG_INVARG 16 #define REG_ATOI 255 /* convert name to number (!) */ #define REG_ITOA 0400 /* convert number to name (!) */ #define REG_NOTBOL 00001 #define REG_NOTEOL 00002 #define REG_STARTEND 00004 #define REG_TRACE 00400 /* tracing of execution */ #define REG_LARGE 01000 /* force large representation */ #define REG_BACKR 02000 /* force use of backref code */ But none of these numbers looks remotely like what sps->sps_reg_errno is being set to! I'm completely and totally stumped. I've gotten to the point where it looks like regcomp(3) is doing something totally whacked-out in response to the input, but I can't figure out how to proceed from here. Any and all assistance would be appreciated! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 10: 2:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.3.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC9D37B717 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:02:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bellefso@execpc.com) Received: from pop03.execpc.com (pop03.execpc.com [169.207.1.82]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.9.1) id MAA07489 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:02:19 -0500 Received: from packfan (d65.as28.nwbl1.wi.voyager.net [169.207.114.193]) by pop03.execpc.com (8.8.8) id MAA26860 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:02:18 -0500 From: "Brian" To: "Freebsd-Stable" Subject: SMP panic on boot Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:02:18 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have just installed a machine with 4.0 release. When I rebuilt the kernel to enable SMP, I got a panic on reboot. I cvsup'd to stable and tried it again, but the same problem occured. The following message is what I recieved: APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 panic: mbinit mp_lock = 00000002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 Then the machine reboots. I have tried changing the SMP version between 1.1 and 1.4 with the same results. The machine has worked previosly with 3.x. The machine is a Abit BP6 with dual Celeron 433's and 768 MB RAM. IDE hard drive and CDROM. I am not using the Highpoint controller on the board. I know that 4.0 will work with these boards, I have two others running the same thing, but with SCSI. Any ideas what could be causing this? Thanks, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 10:21:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from npri54exc10.Npt.NUWC.Navy.Mil (NPRI54EXC10.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL [129.190.70.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C0F37BDB2 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:21:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from FinkWA@Npt.NUWC.Navy.Mil) Received: by NPRI54EXC10.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) id ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:21:48 -0400 Message-ID: <471DC41CE997D11199AA0001FA7E86E703A28149@NPRI54EXC05.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL> From: Fink William A CONT NPRI To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:21:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 10:43:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD5737BF01 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 22D0115543; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:43:05 -0700 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: New Machine boot up Message-ID: <20000628104305.A25069@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.0-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Crescent (14% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 10:40AM up 5 days, 10:47, 2 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.03, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hope I have the right list. Just built a new machine for a friend and to got it to install I had to go into the Visual config and disable alot of stuff. Once installed and running with a custom kernel ALl is working well except the disable stuff I had when I initially set when I installed spits out can't find this and that etc.. My question is how do I clear that out so it boots nice, clean and pretty. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Zenocide: the killing of ancient philosophers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 10:52:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marvin.kazrak.com (adsl-209-233-16-235.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.233.16.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6606337B5E2 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad@kazrak.com) Received: by marvin.kazrak.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B487A40A; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:52:34 -0700 From: Brad Jones To: Brian Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP panic on boot Message-ID: <20000628105234.A15109@marvin.kazrak.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from bellefso@execpc.com on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:02:18PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:02:18PM -0500, Brian wrote: > I have just installed a machine with 4.0 release. When I rebuilt the kernel > to enable SMP, > I got a panic on reboot. I cvsup'd to stable and tried it again, but the > same problem > occured. The following message is what I recieved: > > APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery > APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 > > panic: mbinit > mp_lock = 00000002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 > > Then the machine reboots. I have tried changing the SMP version between 1.1 > and 1.4 with > the same results. The machine has worked previosly with 3.x. The machine is > a Abit BP6 with > dual Celeron 433's and 768 MB RAM. IDE hard drive and CDROM. I am not using > the Highpoint > controller on the board. I know that 4.0 will work with these boards, I have > two others running the same thing, but with SCSI. Any ideas what could be > causing this? ISTR having this problem as well. As I recall, it triggered when I tried setting my BIOS to handle the USB keyboard instead of leaving it to the OS. (Same board, same CPUs, less memory, using HPT366.) Try tweaking that and see if it helps. BJ -- Brad Jones -- brad@kazrak.com "I use emacs, which might be thought of as a thermonuclear word processor." -- Neal Stephenson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 11: 8:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snoopy.brwn.org (intgw1.brwn.org [196.28.127.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F83837B7D6 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willem@snoopy.brwn.org) Received: by snoopy.brwn.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E247E1D91; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:08:18 +0200 (SAST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:08:18 +0200 From: Willem Brown To: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Machine boot up Message-ID: <20000628200818.H250@snoopy.brwn.org> References: <20000628104305.A25069@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628104305.A25069@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:43:05AM -0700 X-Public-Key: http://www.brwn.org/~willem/pubkey.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Look in the /boot/kernel.conf file. I just deleted the lines that did not need to be there. Regards Willem Brown On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:43:05AM -0700, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > I hope I have the right list. Just built a new machine for a friend and > to got it to install I had to go into the Visual config and disable alot > of stuff. Once installed and running with a custom kernel ALl is working > well except the disable stuff I had when I initially set when I > installed spits out can't find this and that etc.. > > My question is how do I clear that out so it boots nice, clean and > pretty. > > TIA > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... > The InSaNe One rm -rf * > insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Zenocide: the killing of ancient philosophers. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- /* =============================================================== */ /* Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD. The choice is yours. */ /* =============================================================== */ The first time, it's a KLUDGE! The second, a trick. Later, it's a well-established technique! -- Mike Broido, Intermetrics To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 11: 9: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A83D37C144 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA90493; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200006281808.LAA90493@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: New Machine boot up In-Reply-To: <20000628104305.A25069@lunatic.oneinsane.net> from "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" at "Jun 28, 2000 10:43:05 am" To: Ron Rosson Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I hope I have the right list. Just built a new machine for a friend and > to got it to install I had to go into the Visual config and disable alot > of stuff. Once installed and running with a custom kernel ALl is working > well except the disable stuff I had when I initially set when I > installed spits out can't find this and that etc.. > > My question is how do I clear that out so it boots nice, clean and > pretty. Edit /boot/loader.conf and comment out or remove the line saying 'userconfig_script="YES"' or some such. --- John Baldwin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 11:13:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC15C37BFB3; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000628181357.FBMT159.relay01@chello.nl>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:13:57 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01205; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:12:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:12:59 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bob Willcox Cc: Greg Lehey , wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Message-ID: <20000628201259.C1136@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000626225629.A525@freebie.wbnet> <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20000627082648.A3475@freebie.wbnet> <20000628121611.C1504@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20000628084749.A84134@luke.immure.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628084749.A84134@luke.immure.com>; from bob@luke.immure.com on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:47:49AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:47:49AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:16:12PM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Tuesday, 27 June 2000 at 8:26:49 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:03:49PM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: > > >> On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 22:56:29 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > >>> I just got tons and tons of > > >>> > > >>> Jun 26 22:06:33 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,199762) > > >>> Jun 26 22:06:34 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,210275) > > >>> > > >>> (approx 10Mb worth of them). This was during a mpeg video playing operation. > > >>> > > >>> FreeBSD freebie.wbnet 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat Jun 24 16:52:41 CEST 2000 root@freebie.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE i386 > > >>> > > >>> System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. > > >>> > > >>> Any idea what is causing this? > > >> > > >> Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it's a bug in the APM code. It > > >> even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the > > >> kernel. > > > > > > No, it is an Abit KA7. But I will try removing apm, it is indeed in the > > > kernel. I'll see what happens next. Why does apm influence the time stuff? > > > > It changes the way the timer code works. I've been told various > > things, and have quoted some of them in the past, but it seems they > > may be wrong. As far as I can tell now, the issue is that > > microuptime() is not atomic, and it seems that it's possible for race > > conditions to arise where it's called reentrantly and returns the > > older time after returning a newer time. If this hypothesis is > > correct, you should also be able to eliminate the messages by putting > > a splhigh() around the body of microuptime() (in /sys/kern/kern_tc.c). > > This isn't the solution though, especially since we're removing spls > > with the new SMP code. > > I just tried the splhigh() around microuptime() on my system here with > this problem and it did not solve the problem. Removal of apm from > the kernel seems to have, though. Note that this is an Abit KA7 board > with a 700MHz Athlon CPU. Also, I have another system here with a OK, same board/CPU here. > similar configuration (same Abit board but with a 800MHz CPU in it and > a SCSI disk vs. IDE) that doesn't suffer from this problem (with apm > installed). Mine is SCSI-only, Adaptec 2940UW based. So there is no relation with the disksubsystem type. -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 11:16:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from michaelvince.com (CPE-144-132-49-2.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2090737C23F for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enews@michaelvince.com) Received: (qmail 66265 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 17:59:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO purple) (192.168.1.34) by 192.168.1.33 with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 17:59:33 -0000 Message-ID: <005f01bfe12a$753755e0$2201a8c0@vic.bigpond.net.au> From: "Michael" To: Subject: Bad apache ports on stable 4.0 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:58:23 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I went from 4.0 release to 4.0 stable and when I installed apache and modphp4 from ports the php4 side of it doesnt work. It all compiles fine (apache and the php4 /usr/ports/www/mod_php4) but the end result was either apache would load and any .php I requested would be downloaded instead of executed or apache wouldnt even load. And yes I was adding AddType application/x-httpd-php .php and AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps to the apache confile file I sat there for about 24 hours worth of compiling most of the apache choices(apache13, apache13-ssl, apache13-modssl) in ports and deleteing and adding the modphp4 and they all gave the same results. I kept trying because I had faith that it was something I wasnt doing and not the stable ports, but after a while I belived it was the modphp4 that wasnt getting compiled properly even though there wasn't any error messages in the compile. I downloaded php4 from the www.php.net web site compiled/installed it (I used apache from ports) and apache worked with php first time. So I belive the /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 is dodgey and what happened to the nice menu you used to get when installing apache from ports with the options to choose mysql and php etc? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 12: 2:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragonstar.dhs.org (dsl-028-a.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.161.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C179937C137; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by dragonstar.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA88744; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:02:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@dragonstar.dhs.org) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:02:32 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Smith To: Michael Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad apache ports on stable 4.0 In-Reply-To: <005f01bfe12a$753755e0$2201a8c0@vic.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CC'd to ports where it belongs. (Please respond only there as I don't think this is a -stable issue). I'd like to suggest they add this to the messages that says to hadd the handler lines, it certainly would have saved me grief -- and you. I had the same problems (and a few worse ones). To get php working, you need to manually add the following lines to tell apache that the module exist (in addition to defining that certain files should use the handlers): In Dynamic Shared Object (DSO) Support: Append to the list of LoadModule lines: LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so Append to the list of AddModule lines: AddModule mod_php4.c j. -- Close your eyes. Now forget what you see. What do you feel? -- My heart. -- Come here. -- Your heart. -- See? We're exactly the same. Jon Smith -- Senior Math Major @ Purdue On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Michael wrote: > I went from 4.0 release to 4.0 stable and when I installed apache and > modphp4 from ports the php4 side of it doesnt work. > It all compiles fine (apache and the php4 /usr/ports/www/mod_php4) but the > end result was either apache would load and any .php I requested would be > downloaded instead of executed or apache wouldnt even load. > And yes I was adding AddType application/x-httpd-php .php and AddType > application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > to the apache confile file > > I sat there for about 24 hours worth of compiling most of the apache > choices(apache13, apache13-ssl, apache13-modssl) in ports and deleteing and > adding the modphp4 and they all gave the same results. > I kept trying because I had faith that it was something I wasnt doing and > not the stable ports, but after a while I belived it was the modphp4 that > wasnt getting compiled properly even though there wasn't any error messages > in the compile. > > I downloaded php4 from the www.php.net web site compiled/installed it (I > used apache from ports) and apache worked with php first time. > > So I belive the /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 is dodgey and what happened to the > nice menu you used to get when installing apache from ports with the options > to choose mysql and php etc? > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 12:46:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0963737C129 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:46:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574B18E8; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id MAA20177; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <395A5627.82EF1F17@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:46:47 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stan Brown Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: HELP PLEAS! with Oracle install! References: <200006262303.QAA16150@netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stan Brown wrote: > I am trying to install Oralce on 4.0 STABEL. I have read teh Handbook > section on this and done everythign it recomends. [snip] > Now, whne I try to run the installer, I get an error message that says > esentiallly that /usr/local/jre/bin/jre is not found. Now I think this > must be tje Java Runtime Environment. Since I am runing in a Linux > compatabilty shell. I belive the file it is really looking for is > /compat/linux/usr/local/jre/bin/jre. The handbook describes Oracle 8.0.5.x. Oracle 8 doesn't have a Java installer. Oracle 8i does, but isn't covered by the handbook. The handbook does give a good starting point when trying to install and run Oracle 8i, but it is no following-these-easy-steps-to-guaranteed-success kind of description anymore (it never was :-) I suggest reading the Oracle installation manual before you attempt to do anything unsupported with it. And with anything unsupported: assume you don't get any support :-) > I have istalled the jre jdk, and linux-jdk ports, all to no vail. The Oracle manual clearly stated that blackdown JDK was recommended. That may have changed in the mean time of course, but I don't think that it will be as trivial as installing just any JDK port (and specifically a FreeBSD port). > Could someone _PLESE_ explain what I am doing wrong? 1. You're installing the wrong Oracle version, or you're reading the wrong description for the Oracle version you're trying to install. 2. You're pioneering with the expectation that the road ahead is already paved. -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 12:53:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.2.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8276D37BC30 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bellefso@execpc.com) Received: from pop03.execpc.com (pop03.execpc.com [169.207.1.82]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.9.1) id OAA11436; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:53:39 -0500 Received: from packfan (d65.as28.nwbl1.wi.voyager.net [169.207.114.193]) by pop03.execpc.com (8.8.8) id OAA02151; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:53:37 -0500 From: "Brian" To: "Brad Jones" Cc: Subject: RE: SMP panic on boot Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:53:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000628105234.A15109@marvin.kazrak.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an update, I commented out the SMP parts of the config and rebuilt the kernel. I still get the panic - but without the APIC stuff. If I boot kernel.GENERIC it will boot fine. Any ideas why this would happen without SMP in the kernel ? I have USB and APM commented out of the config. Also when I did the config I had already deleted the directory from /usr/src/sys/compile. Thanks, Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Brad Jones Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:53 PM To: Brian Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP panic on boot On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:02:18PM -0500, Brian wrote: > I have just installed a machine with 4.0 release. When I rebuilt the kernel > to enable SMP, > I got a panic on reboot. I cvsup'd to stable and tried it again, but the > same problem > occured. The following message is what I recieved: > > APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery > APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 > > panic: mbinit > mp_lock = 00000002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 > > Then the machine reboots. I have tried changing the SMP version between 1.1 > and 1.4 with > the same results. The machine has worked previosly with 3.x. The machine is > a Abit BP6 with > dual Celeron 433's and 768 MB RAM. IDE hard drive and CDROM. I am not using > the Highpoint > controller on the board. I know that 4.0 will work with these boards, I have > two others running the same thing, but with SCSI. Any ideas what could be > causing this? ISTR having this problem as well. As I recall, it triggered when I tried setting my BIOS to handle the USB keyboard instead of leaving it to the OS. (Same board, same CPUs, less memory, using HPT366.) Try tweaking that and see if it helps. BJ -- Brad Jones -- brad@kazrak.com "I use emacs, which might be thought of as a thermonuclear word processor." -- Neal Stephenson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 13:12:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7340D37BA29; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@gordian.com) X-bait: aablmeh@gordian.com,mmblmeh@gordian.com,zzblmeh@gordian.com Received: from delphi.gordian.com (delphi.gordian.com [192.73.220.125]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14074; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gordian.com (asclepius [192.73.220.254]) by delphi.gordian.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA04956; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <395A5C2F.1976557D@gordian.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:12:31 -0700 From: Steve Khoo Organization: Gordian; Santa Ana Heights, CA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway , David Malone Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /kernel: panic: ufs_lick: recursive lock not expected... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Steve Khoo wrote: > > > 2.2.8-STABLE NFS server crashing frequently. > > NFS was only really fixed in 4.0 thanks to Matt Dillon - consider > upgrading. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe OK. I'll plan on upgrading to 4.x-stable. Thanks! SEK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 13:21:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ss5.paco.odessa.ua (ss5.paco.odessa.ua [195.114.128.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C2B37BF05 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:21:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@paco.net) Received: from rapid (ejs@rapid.paco.net [195.114.129.107]) by ss5.paco.odessa.ua (8.9.3/8.9.1.1) with ESMTP id XAA00733 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:21:38 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:23:46 +0300 (EEST) From: "Eugen J. Sobchenko" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth 347f902e subscribe freebsd-stable ejs@paco.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 13:32:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anarchy.io.com (anarchy.io.com [199.170.88.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E868837B62C; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcerha@eris.io.com) Received: from deliverator.io.com (root@deliverator.io.com [199.170.88.17]) by anarchy.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12735; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:32:28 -0500 Received: from eris.io.com (IDENT:mcerha@eris.io.com [199.170.88.11]) by deliverator.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14833; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:32:28 -0500 Received: (from mcerha@localhost) by eris.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA15375; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:32:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:32:27 -0500 From: Matthew Cerha To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Perl and 'make buildworld' for FreeBSD 4.0-Stable Message-ID: <20000628153227.A14806@io.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Intergalactic Mail Mangler 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to update my 4.0-Release to Stable. I've installed and cvsup'd the latest sources (as of this morning). However, during the 'make buildworld' process, the compile craps out while making Perl. I searched the lists and saw some similar problems posted in 1999, but I never found a resolution. Any help would be greatly appreciated? Here's a snippet of problem: Writing Makefile for DynaLoader^M Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/Config.pm may be out of date with /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh^M cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl && make lib/Config.pm^M `lib/Config.pm' is up to date.^M Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h out of date with /usr/o bj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh^M *** Error code 1 (ignored)^M Makefile out-of-date with respect to /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/ Config.pm /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h^M Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile...^M make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 || /bin/sh -c true^M perl "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr. bin/perl/perl/lib" Makefile.PL "INSTALLDIRS=perl" "PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu /usr.bin/perl/perl" "INSTALLMAN3DIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/perl/man3" " PERL=perl" "FULLPERL=perl" "DEFINE=-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include" "LINKTYP E=static" "LIBS=-lperl -lm"^M Writing Makefile for DynaLoader^M ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <==^M ==> Please rerun the make command. <==^M false *** Error code 1 TIA, mtc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 13:59:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF4737B619; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:59:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68423137F10; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA56053; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:58:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14682.26377.867059.707257@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:58:49 -0400 (EDT) To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: wpaul@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic with 20 ethernet interfaces reproducable. In-Reply-To: <20000628094440.B44987@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <14681.9330.448264.560959@trooper.velocet.net> <20000627230534.F348@stat.Duke.EDU> <14681.62241.599779.846669@trooper.velocet.net> <20000628094440.B44987@stat.Duke.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm still about at wits end with this panic caused when I have 20 dc ethernet interfaces. It doesn't happen when I have 12. ... but I built GDB_REMOTE_CHAT into the kernel and I always get a double fault ... and it doesn't drop to gdb until the second of the two faults ... at which point I can't get back the information about where it's crashing from. I have a serial console on this box ... is someone interested/able to help debug this? where in the kernel is running when I run ifconfig -a? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 15:45:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.uninet.ee (ns.uninet.ee [194.204.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1957837BA1E for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:45:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauri@inspiral.net) Received: from puu.mbp.ee (parnu-isdn-26.uninet.ee [194.204.43.90]) by ns.uninet.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA1B2585F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:44:56 +0200 (EET) From: "Lauri Laupmaa" Organization: Inspiral.Net To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:44:23 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: todays kernel not compiling. Message-ID: <395A9BE7.10628.222AE07@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I get: ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c: In function `in_cksum': ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: `__func__' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c: In function `in_cksum_skip': ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:426: `__func__' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 TIA L. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 18:41: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8BE37BAD0 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from c169507b ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000629014101.JYXB18210.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@c169507b> for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:41:01 -0700 Message-ID: <00b301bfe16b$16074a30$2cad0b18@c169507b> Reply-To: "Dolgan" From: "Dolgan" To: Subject: Gnome compliance and speed? Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:41:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if this is the right place for this, and I'm still rather inexperienced, but: First, here's my setup: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE (6/27/00) AMD K6-2 400, 128MB of ram (just providing this for proof that it's not my hardware) Gnome 1.2.1 Sawfish 0.28.1 XFree86 3.3.6 - also tried with X 4.0 The gtk and all that that I got when I did a 'make install' in /usr/ports/x11/gnome Gnome runs extremely slower than it should (I've been using Gnome 1.2 and the pre-releases of it for a LONG time in Linux with nada for problems until I got FBSD), and when I boot into it with a Deskguide applet open, it says that I don't have a gnome-compliant Window Manager, even though sawfish has pretty much always been gnome-compliant (if not really always). I tried the default installation. I tried a clean install to see if I did something wrong the first time. I copied my .gnome directories from my Linux installation of Debian 2.3 that's on the *same system* which runs better than fine, and stil the same thing. It does it with root, as well as user. Any ideas? Let me know if you need more info. I am inexperienced, and very stumped. I've tried searching Google and many other places to no avail. Help greatly appreciated. -Dolgan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 18:57:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D24437C2E1 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.40]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:58:44 -0700 Message-ID: <395AACF0.D3E01C97@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:57:04 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: todays kernel not compiling. References: <395A9BE7.10628.222AE07@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > > Hi > > I get: > > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c: In function `in_cksum': > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: `__func__' undeclared (first use this > function) > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: (Each undeclared identifier is > reported only once > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: for each function it appears in.) > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c: In function `in_cksum_skip': > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:426: `__func__' undeclared (first use this > function) > *** Error code 1 Did you cvsup and retry it. I cvsup'ed today and didn't have any problems doing a make world and kernel. Kent > > TIA > > L. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 19: 5:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF8F37BAA8 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:05:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from c169507b ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000629020539.KOGK18210.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@c169507b>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:05:39 -0700 Message-ID: <011a01bfe16e$872f7630$2cad0b18@c169507b> Reply-To: "Dolgan" From: "Dolgan" To: "Matt Heckaman" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:05:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed it from the ports. However, that was an unupdated ports. But it was from the ports that I got when I installed 4.0-STABLE. So how old could it be? I don't know how to update the ports file. You think I should reinstall from a later ports file? Not quite sure how to delete the old Gnome if so. I installed both from ports, btw. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Heckaman" To: "Dolgan" Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Question: Did you install GNOME/Sawfish from the ports? I do not use > sawfish (I'm a windowmaker fan) but I often use various gnome applications > (not to mention compiling gnome (minus panel) support into everything I > can. (I really like Gnome) and I've never had a problem with anything > here. We have virtually identical machines; Celeron 400 / 128MB / > 4.0-STABLE (May 30 2000). Offhand, did you update the ports tree? (see > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile) > > I don't know if that's much help, but we'll see. :) > > Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 19: 7: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC58F37C3EB for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10497 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:06:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06029; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:06:56 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200006290206.MAA06029@lightning.itga.com.au> From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: [Summary] Re: Repeatable panic: zone: entry not free In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:22:58 +1000. Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:06:56 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the record/mail-list archives: I sumbitted this as a PR (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19553) and David Malone pointed out that using KLDs compiled without INVARIANTS in a kernel compiled with INVARIANTS will cause this. See the PR for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 19:21:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2769237B6EB for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 17814 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jun 2000 02:21:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 02:21:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Dolgan Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? In-Reply-To: <011a01bfe16e$872f7630$2cad0b18@c169507b> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Dolgan wrote: : I installed it from the ports. : : However, that was an unupdated ports. But it was from the ports that I got : when I installed 4.0-STABLE. So how old could it be? If you upgraded to 4.0-STABLE through a make world, your ports did not get updated. :) : I don't know how to update the ports file. You think I should reinstall from : a later ports file? Not quite sure how to delete the old Gnome if so. Read over /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile, change the host to cvsupX.freebsd.org (where X = number, I like cvsup3) and run cvsup -g -L 2 on ports-supfile. : I installed both from ports, btw. * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5WrKXdMMtMcA1U5ARAkIIAJ991v+dKm73goaxgXG/q/CJ34fPuACeO/V6 EmbrjKEabAwo/3ycRCqOAzY= =w0++ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 19:23:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.cosco.com.cn (mail2.cosco.com.cn [202.96.54.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC6B37BA98 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:22:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlist@mail2.cosco.com.cn) Received: from hef ([172.17.2.166]) by mail2.cosco.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01258 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:27:45 GMT (envelope-from mlist@mail2.cosco.com.cn) Message-ID: <001401bfe171$bd65e970$a60211ac@hef> From: "He Feng(BJ)" To: Subject: Help : about ipnat rdr problem Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:28:26 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- --- |___|----------------------|___|--------> Internet | | | host A host B 172.17.2.229 172.17.2.176 202.99.99.99 host A: winnt + exchange host B: FreeBSD 4.0-release,recompiled kernel and add "options IPFILTER" I want to redirect outside POP3 requests to Host A via HostB here is my ipnat config file: # cat /etc/ipnat.conf map ep0 172.17.2.0/24 -> 202.99.99.99/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 rdr ep0 202.99.99.99/32 port 110 -> 172.17.2.229 port 110 tcp/udp #ipnat -C #ipnat -f /etc/ipnat.conf when i try to telnel 202.99.99.99 110,there is no response. after about 60 second, echo "connection closed by server............." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 19:33:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E3837C3AD for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from c169507b ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000629023309.LEIU18210.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@c169507b>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:33:09 -0700 Message-ID: <013201bfe172$5e545650$2cad0b18@c169507b> Reply-To: "Dolgan" From: "Dolgan" To: "Matt Heckaman" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:33:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I didn't "upgrade." I had RELEASE, then I did a clean installation just to avoid the trouble. See it was about an hour after I got done installing FBSD for the first time so it didn't matter. I installed clean from a 6-27-2000 snapshot. That was yesterday. Wouldn't that make the ports updated, or not..? Why would it be a ports thing, though? It's Gnome 1.2.1... latest. Is there something weird with ports? Latest sawfish too. On Wed , 28 Jun 2000, Dolgan wrote: : I installed it from the ports. : : However, that was an unupdated ports. But it was from the ports that I got : when I installed 4.0-STABLE. So how old could it be? If you upgraded to 4.0-STABLE through a make world, your ports did not get updated. :) : I don't know how to update the ports file. You think I should reinstall from : a later ports file? Not quite sure how to delete the old Gnome if so. Read over /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile, change the host to cvsupX.freebsd.org (where X = number, I like cvsup3) and run cvsup -g -L 2 on ports-supfile. : I installed both from ports, btw. * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5WrKXdMMtMcA1U5ARAkIIAJ991v+dKm73goaxgXG/q/CJ34fPuACeO/V6 EmbrjKEabAwo/3ycRCqOAzY= =w0++ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 19:45: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D4E37C39A for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelw@iprg.nokia.com) Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (darkstar.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.69]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-GLGS) with ESMTP id TAA17389 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-VIRSCAN) id TAA29726 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:44:52 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:44:52 -0700 Nokia Silicon Valley Email Exploit Scanner Received: from (brakescr.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.1.186]) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com SMTP/WTS (12.69) xma029589; Wed, 28 Jun 00 19:44:46 -0700 Message-ID: <395AB821.3146E628@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:44:49 -0700 From: Michael Glenn Williams Organization: NOKIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: ugh X server prob Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After 4.0-release fresh install, my X server lets me run xterms, but no window managers. Yes after 6+ releases of X I should know how to debug these things *sigh* Can someone point me to what I didn't read or give debug hints. The error is below. Ask me anything you want, privately this is most surely brain cramp. Tx michaelw# xhost + Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xhost: unable to open display ":0.0" michaelw# xauth Using authority file /home/michaelw/.Xauthority xauth> list michaelw.iprg.nokia.com:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 778ffa6dea880331103e5bd722597a4d michaelw.iprg.nokia.com/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 778ffa6dea880331103e5bd722597a4d michaelw.iprg.nokia.com:0 XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 24af78dee89c923000110500b4c45744 michaelw.iprg.nokia.com/unix:0 XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 24af78dee89c923000110500b4c45744 brakescr.iprg.nokia.com:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 5d341f7a3b7940000c7e334107257738 brakescr.iprg.nokia.com/unix:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 5d341f7a3b7940000c7e334107257738 xauth> quit michaelw# ps -auxww | DWIM USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND michaelw 3364 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? Z 7:36PM 0:00.00 (xclock) root 2948 0.0 1.3 2264 1672 ?? Is 5:36PM 0:00.06 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm root 3118 0.0 9.8 13244 12436 ?? Ss 5:45PM 0:01.26 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -auth /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-LG2948 (XF86_SVGA) root 3343 0.0 1.6 2388 2040 ?? Is 7:36PM 0:00.04 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm michaelw 3353 0.0 1.6 2320 2012 ?? Rs 7:36PM 0:00.07 xterm -geometry 80x25+20+100 -name Login xterm -ls michaelw 3365 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? Z 7:36PM 0:00.00 (xload) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 19:49:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A75B37B8B9 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:49:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from c169507b ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000629024915.LNWY18210.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@c169507b>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:49:15 -0700 Message-ID: <014601bfe174$9e517e20$2cad0b18@c169507b> Reply-To: "Dolgan" From: "Dolgan" To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: References: <013201bfe172$5e545650$2cad0b18@c169507b> <20000628224734.B348@stat.Duke.EDU> Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:49:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unfortunately, I did that. It seemed to have no effect. :( KDE is fine, but I *hate hate* KDE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean O'Connell" To: "Dolgan" Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? > Dolgan stated: > : I didn't "upgrade." > : > : I had RELEASE, then I did a clean installation just to avoid the trouble. > : See it was about an hour after I got done installing FBSD for the first time > : so it didn't matter. > : > : I installed clean from a 6-27-2000 snapshot. That was yesterday. Wouldn't > : that make the ports updated, or not..? > : > : Why would it be a ports thing, though? It's Gnome 1.2.1... latest. Is there > : something weird with ports? > : Latest sawfish too. > > Dolgan- > > Did you tweak the SYSV shared memory parameters in your kernel? If > you are making heavy use of imlib, you need to do this. There was a > fairly long thread on either -stable or -current (I forget) detailing > various folks tweakings of their SYSV share memory setting in the > kernel. > > Look at LINT ... the options in question are > > options SHMALL=1025 > options SHMMAX="(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" > options SHMMAXPGS=1025 > options SHMMIN=2 > options SHMMNI=33 > options SHMSEG=9 > > Some of these need to included in your kernel and larger. Take a > gander at either > > http://www.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-stable.html > > or > > http://www.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-current.html > > And look aroung for sawfish/gnome/ipcs/sysv shared memory > > When your perfomance goes into the toilet look at > > ipcs -mob > > Hope this helps, > S > > > 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 > Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 19:55:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F9A237BADE for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:55:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 17937 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jun 2000 02:55:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 02:55:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:55:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Dolgan Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? In-Reply-To: <013201bfe172$5e545650$2cad0b18@c169507b> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Dolgan wrote: ... : I installed clean from a 6-27-2000 snapshot. That was yesterday. Wouldn't : that make the ports updated, or not..? Hmm, it should yes. : Why would it be a ports thing, though? It's Gnome 1.2.1... latest. Is there : something weird with ports? : Latest sawfish too. Yeah, but ports often apply several patches to make things work right on FreeBSD, those patches could have been updated without a version upgrade of gnome. Given that you installed from a snapshot of yesterday, you should have the latest ports though. At this point, I'm not sure what the problem is.. Maybe someone who runs the combination would have an idea. * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5WrqRdMMtMcA1U5ARAseTAJ4g927b4R9ACY5SRVX++MBW8cu3NACgr4V0 hvHt/mfYRJppqBesXVYH/RU= =tMyz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 20:39: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E732137BB0B; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA64473; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:38:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: kmays Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <000501bfe0ac$09d7d640$30c3193f@KenMays> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, kmays wrote: > I hope the 3.x build can be merged into future 4.x builds > successfully so we can do away with 3.x. I don't think all of the bugs in > 3.x will ever be fixed unless you freeze new features and try to fix all the > old ones. I don't know what you're talking about "merging into future 4.x builds". 4.x is already much more stable than 3.x ever was..the bug-fixing has already taken place during the development of the 4.0 branch. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 20:41:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F2B37BB27; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:41:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA64737; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:41:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:41:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: todays kernel not compiling. In-Reply-To: <395A9BE7.10628.222AE07@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c: In function `in_cksum': > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: `__func__' undeclared (first use this > function) > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: (Each undeclared identifier is > reported only once > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:238: for each function it appears in.) > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c: In function `in_cksum_skip': > ../../i386/i386/in_cksum.c:426: `__func__' undeclared (first use this > function) > *** Error code 1 Looks like you're compiling a 4.0-STABLE kernel with 3.x gcc Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 20:54:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wat-border.sentex.ca (waterloo-hespler.sentex.ca [199.212.135.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8CA37BAD6 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by wat-border.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12860 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:54:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19660 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:54:26 -0400 (EDT) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange FreeBSD 4.x system freezes and SQUID Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:50:04 GMT Message-ID: <395ac5d3.371222900@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27 Jun 2000 17:24:23 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.misc you wrote: To followup on my system 'freezing' problem.... I have been running the box for a good 12hrs now with 2 small modifications. One, I up'd the max users to 256. Two, I began rotating the squid logs every 4hrs. This last point is rather strange. I notice that after the log rotation, my free vnodes blast up from 2,000 to nearly 12,000. 4 users Load 0.62 0.36 0.22 Wed Jun 28 23:49 Mem:KB REAL VIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share Tot Share Free in out in out Act 191376 1168 193640 1908 19860 count All 513320 1572 2994980 2488 pages zfod Interrupts Proc:r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt cow 443 total 1 5 1140 588 1065 444 18 2 59568 wire ahc0 irq10 203060 act fxp0 irq12 4.7%Sys 0.9%Intr 3.7%User 0.0%Nice 90.7%Idl 231828 inact 210 fxp1 irq9 | | | | | | | | | | 18864 cache 5 twe0 irq11 ==+>> 996 free fdc0 irq6 daefr sio0 irq4 Namei Name-cache Dir-cache prcfr sio1 irq3 Calls hits % hits % react sio7 irq7 390 332 85 6 2 pdwak 100 clk irq0 pdpgs 128 rtc irq8 Disks twed0 da0 da1 da2 fd0 pass0 pass1 intrn KB/t 10.33 16.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 62064 buf tps 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 233 dirtybuf MB/s 0.05 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 36260 desiredvnodes % busy 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 36213 numvnodes 8479 freevnodes This is after rotating the logs an hours ago via cron. The freevnodes keeps going down until the next rotate. Why would rotating a few big logs cause these values to change so much ? -rw-r--r-- 1 squid squid 28204318 Jun 28 23:51 access.log -rw-r--r-- 1 squid squid 65535714 Jun 28 22:00 access.log.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 squid squid 19418684 Jun 28 18:00 access.log.1 If I dont rotate them I start to get into the 'freezing' syndrome again where the system is unresponsive for a good 3-6 seconds. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 21:22: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4396737BAF9 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays@email.msn.com) Received: from KenMays - 63.30.241.184 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:21:31 -0700 Message-ID: <00ad01bfe180$8ca74860$b8f11e3f@KenMays> From: "kmays" To: References: <20000628125500.A49568@phy.hr> Subject: Use 4.0-STABLE or 5.0-CURRENT? Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:14:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I started talking about the new way to tell about versioning and remember how current is noted by the "5.0-yyyymmdd-CURRENT". Question #1: Should be use v4.0-STABLE for production and 5.0-20000625-CURRENT for new development/testing?? Question#2: What is the latest 4.0-yyyymmdd-STABLE version as of today and where is it usually located?!? Is there a place to get the ISO image or can a request to make a weekly or monthly version of it possible?!? I only saw 4.0-20000307-CURRENT I think this is where people are getting confused (if not somewhere else). I'm thinking to just use 5.0-CURRENT since it makes sense for bug tracking and new development. Otherwise, if its not broke then don't mess with it or use FreeBSD v4.0-RELEASE. Period! Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 21:28:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038A437BAF9 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15119; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:28:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:28:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: kmays Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use 4.0-STABLE or 5.0-CURRENT? In-Reply-To: <00ad01bfe180$8ca74860$b8f11e3f@KenMays> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Take a look on releng4.freebsd.org for 4.0-STABLE snapshots. On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, kmays wrote: > I started talking about the new way to tell about versioning and remember > how current is noted by the "5.0-yyyymmdd-CURRENT". > > Question #1: Should be use v4.0-STABLE for production and > 5.0-20000625-CURRENT for new development/testing?? > > Question#2: What is the latest 4.0-yyyymmdd-STABLE version as of today and > where is it usually located?!? Is there a place to get the ISO image or can > a request to make a weekly or monthly version of it possible?!? I only saw > 4.0-20000307-CURRENT > > I think this is where people are getting confused (if not somewhere else). > I'm thinking to just use 5.0-CURRENT since it makes sense for bug tracking > and new development. Otherwise, if its not broke then don't mess with it or > use FreeBSD v4.0-RELEASE. Period! > > Ken > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Bob "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes" - The Amityville Horror III To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 21:29:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604E037C3D1 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:29:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA34048; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:29:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000629002004.035c4ed0@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:24:58 -0400 To: "kmays" , From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Use 4.0-STABLE or 5.0-CURRENT? In-Reply-To: <00ad01bfe180$8ca74860$b8f11e3f@KenMays> References: <20000628125500.A49568@phy.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:14 AM 6/29/2000 -0400, kmays wrote: >I started talking about the new way to tell about versioning and remember >how current is noted by the "5.0-yyyymmdd-CURRENT". > >Question #1: Should be use v4.0-STABLE for production and >5.0-20000625-CURRENT for new development/testing?? CURRENT is always for development by the developers. This is all explained in the handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html >Question#2: What is the latest 4.0-yyyymmdd-STABLE version as of today and >where is it usually located?!? Is there a place to get the ISO image or can >a request to make a weekly or monthly version of it possible?!? I only saw >4.0-20000307-CURRENT Again, see the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/synching.html on using cvsup to keep your branch up to date. Periodically snapshots are made in ISO format, but all you need to do is grab a release ISO or 2 floppy disks worth of data and cvsup to the latest, or burn your own release onto CD and install from it. >I think this is where people are getting confused (if not somewhere else). >I'm thinking to just use 5.0-CURRENT since it makes sense for bug tracking >and new development. Otherwise, if its not broke then don't mess with it or >use FreeBSD v4.0-RELEASE. Period! Its actually quite straight forward. The few paragraphs which explain the distinction are quite clear. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 21:46: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5785F37C25C for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:45:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA83408; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:45:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA61759; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:45:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006290445.WAA61759@harmony.village.org> To: "kmays" Subject: Re: Use 4.0-STABLE or 5.0-CURRENT? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:14:35 EDT." <00ad01bfe180$8ca74860$b8f11e3f@KenMays> References: <00ad01bfe180$8ca74860$b8f11e3f@KenMays> <20000628125500.A49568@phy.hr> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:45:52 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <00ad01bfe180$8ca74860$b8f11e3f@KenMays> "kmays" writes: : Question #1: Should be use v4.0-STABLE for production and : 5.0-20000625-CURRENT for new development/testing?? Yes. -current is about to get ugly soon. June 25 is as good/bad as anything. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 21:57:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grove.iup.edu (maple.grove.iup.edu [144.80.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3099F37B5AC for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvjg@grove.iup.edu) Received: from grove.iup.edu ("port 1355"@bvjg.sgi.iup.edu [144.80.62.105]) by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #30978) with ESMTP id <01JR5NC2B5IW90N494@grove.iup.edu> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:57:09 EDT Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:53:30 -0400 From: Nader Subject: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <395AD649.D30BEDB5@grove.iup.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, i have FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE installed on my system. if i cvsup to the stable .... will it show FreeBSD 4.0-yyyymmdd-STABLE or just FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE? 'cause on one of the machines i have i upgraded to 4.0-STABLE like 6 weeks ago and it'sa showing FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE .... i just hate it when the yymmdd shows! by the way, anybody knows when 4.1 will be released? thanks, nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 22:13:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (server.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DC837B778 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:13:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00824; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:13:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04733; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006290514.WAA04733@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200006280311.e5S3BWb28882@lerami.lerctr.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Larry Rosenman Subject: RE: AMD K6-2 / 550 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28-Jun-00 Larry Rosenman wrote: > Well, I'm back... > Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the 128MB memory. > > This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. > > Still have a problem with make world. > > HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can make worlds all day long > with out an error. With softupdates on, your disk activity lowers and your system isn't stressed as hard. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 22:25:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F7B37BB72 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber@lunabase.org) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org ([63.200.244.110]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWW00JICHO82B@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by praxis.lunabase.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00780 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:22:44 -0700 X-URL: http://www.lunabase.org/~faber Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:22:44 -0700 From: Ted Faber Subject: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) To: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <200006290522.WAA00780@praxis.lunabase.org> Organization: My Secret Broadcast Base on the Moon X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm running 4.0-STABLE as of a few days ago and I wanted to move from the ssh-1.2.27 port over to the OpenSSH in the main tree. It seems to me that X11 connection forwarding is hosed. I've tried it with several configurations, and had no luck. I did an ssh from my host to my host and tried to start an xterm from the secure login - failure. The same procedure works fine with the ssh-1.2.27 port. I've also tried remote machines running ssh-1.2.26 and 1.2.27 and seen the same error. A script from the client follows (with extraneous stuff from my .profile deleted). Anyone else seeing this problem? Any hope of a fix from the OpenSSL folks? I'm happy to try patches or provide more debugging information. Script started on Wed Jun 28 21:50:39 2000 78praxis:~$ ssh -v praxis SSH Version OpenSSH-2.1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0. Compiled with SSL (0x00904100). debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug: Applying options for * debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0 debug: Connecting to praxis.lunabase.org [63.200.244.110] port 22. debug: Allocated local port 1015. debug: Connection established. debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version OpenSSH-2.1 debug: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH-2.1 debug: Waiting for server public key. debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits). debug: Host 'praxis.lunabase.org' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug: Encryption type: 3des debug: Sent encrypted session key. debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector. debug: Received encrypted confirmation. debug: Trying RSA authentication via agent with 'faber@newbox.lunabase.org' debug: Received RSA challenge from server. debug: Sending response to RSA challenge. debug: Remote: RSA authentication accepted. debug: RSA authentication accepted by server. debug: Requesting pty. debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. debug: Requesting authentication agent forwarding. debug: Requesting shell. debug: Entering interactive session. Last login: Wed Jun 28 21:49:56 2000 from praxis.lunabase. Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE (PRAXIS) #8: Sat Jun 24 14:55:27 PDT 2000 Welcome to FreeBSD! You will find security advisories and updated errata information for all releases at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ Before asking for technical assistance: 1. Consult the ERRATA section for your release at the URL above. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html. If the doc distribution is installed on this machine, you will also find the formatted FAQ and Handbook documents in /usr/share/doc/ 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' along with error messages from whatever part of the system you are having problems with and email it as a question to the questions@FreeBSD.ORG mailing list. You may also use `/stand/sysinstall' to re-enter the installation and configuration utility. Edit /etc/motd to change this login announcement. [snip] 78praxis:~$ xterm debug: Received X11 open request. debug: fd 5 setting O_NONBLOCK debug: channel 0: new [X11 connection from praxis.lunabase.org port 1037] debug: X11 auth data does not match fake data. debug: X11 rejected 0 i1/o16 debug: channel 0: read failed debug: channel 0: input open -> drain debug: channel 0: close_read debug: channel 0: input: no drain shortcut debug: channel 0: ibuf empty debug: channel 0: input drain -> wait_oclose debug: channel 0: send ieof debug: channel 0: write failed debug: channel 0: output open -> wait_ieof debug: channel 0: send oclose debug: channel 0: close_write debug: X11 closed 0 i4/o64 debug: channel 0: rcvd ieof debug: channel 0: non-open channel 0: istate 4 != open channel 0: ostate 64 != open debug: channel 0: rcvd oclose debug: channel 0: input wait_oclose -> closed X connection to praxis.lunabase.org:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). praxis:~$ exit logout Connection to praxis.lunabase.org closed. debug: Transferred: stdin 27, stdout 2598, stderr 43 bytes in 8.7 seconds debug: Bytes per second: stdin 3.1, stdout 297.2, stderr 4.9 debug: Exit status 1 praxis:~$ exit exit Script done on Wed Jun 28 21:50:55 2000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 iD8DBQE5Wt0jaUz3f+Zf+XsRAoPtAKC/aYbV07mRuU4vw03urS9LwtXkIACgpmpP T4jR2CtQl+hs8cujXSwlQDE= =JUNF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 22:34:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from code.cs.unm.edu (code.cs.unm.edu [198.83.92.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328FD37BB23 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:34:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spcoltri@code.cs.unm.edu) Received: from code.cs.unm.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by code.cs.unm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA36761; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:34:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from spcoltri@code.cs.unm.edu) Message-Id: <200006290534.XAA36761@code.cs.unm.edu> To: Ted Faber Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:22:44 PDT." <200006290522.WAA00780@praxis.lunabase.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:34:35 -0600 From: Steve Coltrin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'm running 4.0-STABLE as of a few days ago and I wanted to move from >the ssh-1.2.27 port over to the OpenSSH in the main tree. It seems to >me that X11 connection forwarding is hosed. >I've tried it with several configurations, and had no luck. By default, the main tree's OpenSSH disables X11 forwarding in both /etc/ssh/ssh_config and /etc/ssh/sshd_config. If you didn't change those, that should make it work. -spc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 22:47: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B197137B8CC for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01010; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <395AE2CA.2ECC1C27@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:46:50 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0628 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Faber Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) References: <200006290522.WAA00780@praxis.lunabase.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Faber wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I'm running 4.0-STABLE as of a few days ago and I wanted to move from > the ssh-1.2.27 port over to the OpenSSH in the main tree. It seems to > me that X11 connection forwarding is hosed. Did you check the settings in the respective conf files? IIRC you have to specifically enable X11 forwarding in the client. HTH, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 22:52: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF6E37B5FA for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber@lunabase.org) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org ([63.200.244.110]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWW003POIH3JR@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by praxis.lunabase.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01604; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:39:32 -0700 X-URL: http://www.lunabase.org/~faber Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:39:31 -0700 From: Ted Faber Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) In-reply-to: "Your message of Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:34:35 MDT." <200006290534.XAA36761@code.cs.unm.edu> To: Steve Coltrin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <200006290539.WAA01604@praxis.lunabase.org> Organization: My Secret Broadcast Base on the Moon X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Steve Coltrin wrote: >>I'm running 4.0-STABLE as of a few days ago and I wanted to move from >>the ssh-1.2.27 port over to the OpenSSH in the main tree. It seems to >>me that X11 connection forwarding is hosed. > >>I've tried it with several configurations, and had no luck. > >By default, the main tree's OpenSSH disables X11 forwarding in both >/etc/ssh/ssh_config and /etc/ssh/sshd_config. If you didn't change those, >that should make it work. Thanks for the suggestion, but for the record, X11 forwarding is turned on in both the client and server config files. If you look at the trace, the client requests the X11 forwarding service when the first connection is established, but when the client actually asks for a connection, there's an authorization failure of some kind in ssh. Because this failure has happened with both the OpenSSH cleint in -stable and the ssh client in the 1.2.27 port, I think the problem is in the OpenSSH server. (A 1.2.27 client and 1.2.27 server do the X11 forwarding correctly, so I don't think the problem is X server configuration, either.) Any other ideas? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 iD8DBQE5WuETaUz3f+Zf+XsRAkovAKC1ktI/ZOi70mYvSf/MIVZ+OU2z7gCgmLaH QslzTh7W4KusFaZ568seeqM= =KFJg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 23: 1: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-04-real.cdsnet.net (mail-04-real.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1A7E37B8D6 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrcpu@internetcds.com) Received: (qmail 89625 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 06:00:50 -0000 Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (204.118.244.32) by mail-04-real.cdsnet.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 06:00:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen X-Sender: mrcpu@schizo.cdsnet.net To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: world failure... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm getting this after a sup this afternoon on 4.0-stable. cd /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl; make _EXTRADEPEND cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/i386/usr/include -c /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perl.c -o perl.o cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/i386/usr/include -c /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/gv.c -o gv.o cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/i386/usr/include -c /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/toke.c -o toke.o mkdir: build: File exists *** Error code 1 Stop in /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src. And sure enough, it does, however, I did start with a clean /usr/obj... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 23:20:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C8237BAE9 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:20:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000629062021.SOHQ18210.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:20:21 -0700 Message-ID: <395A8837.1F934639@home.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:20:24 -0700 From: Dolgan Reply-To: dolgan@linuxfan.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000627-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome compliance? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, this problem got a whole lot weirder, but a whole lot brighter. I noticed that Netscape kept crashing whenever I went to a site (It still does - but there's always Mozilla and right now, I want GNOME working. One problem at a time, right?), so I installed Netscape 3 for experiment's sake. Suddenly, I restarted X, and sawfish was "gnome compliant" and Gnome was zippy. That makes me think that sawfish's compliancy is causing Gnome to be sluggish - somehow. Unfortunately, next time I restarted X it went back to crap. Does anyone know what could be related to SAWFISH that could be causing Gnome to not think it's wm-compliant? On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Dolgan wrote: ... : I installed clean from a 6-27-2000 snapshot. That was yesterday. Wouldn't : that make the ports updated, or not..? Hmm, it should yes. : Why would it be a ports thing, though? It's Gnome 1.2.1... latest. Is there : something weird with ports? : Latest sawfish too. Yeah, but ports often apply several patches to make things work right on FreeBSD, those patches could have been updated without a version upgrade of gnome. Given that you installed from a snapshot of yesterday, you should have the latest ports though. At this point, I'm not sure what the problem is.. Maybe someone who runs the combination would have an idea. * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * -- Dolgan icq@14444322 dolgan@linuxfan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 23:27:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (ppp-247.dialup.clari.net.au [203.57.253.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5C337BB23; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:27:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01381; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200006290633.XAA01381@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:21:18 PDT." <200006280321.UAA00490@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:33:53 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. > > > > > > Any idea what is causing this? > > > > Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it's a bug in the APM code. It > > even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the > > kernel. > > I explained this to you at Usenix, actually. It has nothing to do with > APM, it has to do with the selection of clocks available with/without APM > compiled into the kernel - there is probably either a bug in the TSC > hardware on this CPU, or (more likely) a bug in the timecounter code > (since people see this on !APM systems already). s/TSC hardware/i8254 hardware/ (the TSC is disabled when APM is compiled in, and this forces the use of the i8254) -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 23:44:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown3-1-74.adsl.one.net [216.23.34.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE1537B92F for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00566; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:51:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:51:31 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: dolgan@linuxfan.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome compliance? Message-ID: <20000629025131.A539@cokane.yi.org> References: <395A8837.1F934639@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <395A8837.1F934639@home.com>; from dolgan2k@home.com on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:21:24AM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm... I've been using the latest sawfish and gnome for some time now (5.0-CURRENT) and it has been working fine. I am even using the development releases of XFree864. I have been using netscape4, netscape6, mozilla... the works. It seems to be fine, except for that pesky console switch thing that locks up the mouse when I switch to the console. Dolgan had the audacity to say: > OK, this problem got a whole lot weirder, but a whole lot brighter. > > I noticed that Netscape kept crashing whenever I went to a site (It > still does - but there's always > Mozilla and right now, I want GNOME working. One problem at a time, > right?), so I installed > Netscape 3 for experiment's sake. > > Suddenly, I restarted X, and sawfish was "gnome compliant" and Gnome was > zippy. That makes me > think that sawfish's compliancy is causing Gnome to be sluggish - > somehow. > > Unfortunately, next time I restarted X it went back to crap. > > Does anyone know what could be related to SAWFISH that could be causing > Gnome to not think it's > wm-compliant? > > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Dolgan wrote: > ... > : I installed clean from a 6-27-2000 snapshot. That was yesterday. > Wouldn't > : that make the ports updated, or not..? > > Hmm, it should yes. > > : Why would it be a ports thing, though? It's Gnome 1.2.1... latest. Is > there > : something weird with ports? > : Latest sawfish too. > > Yeah, but ports often apply several patches to make things work right on > > FreeBSD, those patches could have been updated without a version upgrade > > of gnome. Given that you installed from a snapshot of yesterday, you > should have the latest ports though. At this point, I'm not sure what > the > problem is.. Maybe someone who runs the combination would have an idea. > > * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * > > -- > Dolgan > icq@14444322 > dolgan@linuxfan.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 28 23:49:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A46437B61E for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000629064920.TWHP18210.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:49:20 -0700 Message-ID: <395A8F03.6F141D08@home.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:49:23 -0700 From: Dolgan Reply-To: dolgan@linuxfan.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000627-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome compliance? References: <395A8837.1F934639@home.com> <20000629025131.A539@cokane.yi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > More information. It seems that whenever Netscape crashes (every time I use it), and then when I do ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X (if I kill Netscape, then it kills X and renders it unrestartable until next reboot - no idea why), it core dumps etc etc. But here's the killer. When I go back into X after that, Gnome works fine. Netscape still doesn't. But Gnome works fine. So does sawfish. Here I say, W T F ? What IS this? Something to do with Netscape, X, and Sawfish... I wish I wasn't so inexperienced. Any help on this greatly appreciated. The problem, once again, is that Gnome is really slow and doesn't think sawfish is wm-compliant until Netscape core dumps. > > > Dolgan had the audacity to say: > > OK, this problem got a whole lot weirder, but a whole lot brighter. > > > > I noticed that Netscape kept crashing whenever I went to a site (It > > still does - but there's always > > Mozilla and right now, I want GNOME working. One problem at a time, > > right?), so I installed > > Netscape 3 for experiment's sake. > > > > Suddenly, I restarted X, and sawfish was "gnome compliant" and Gnome was > > zippy. That makes me > > think that sawfish's compliancy is causing Gnome to be sluggish - > > somehow. > > > > Unfortunately, next time I restarted X it went back to crap. > > > > Does anyone know what could be related to SAWFISH that could be causing > > Gnome to not think it's > > wm-compliant? > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Dolgan wrote: > > ... > > : I installed clean from a 6-27-2000 snapshot. That was yesterday. > > Wouldn't > > : that make the ports updated, or not..? > > > > Hmm, it should yes. > > > > : Why would it be a ports thing, though? It's Gnome 1.2.1... latest. Is > > there > > : something weird with ports? > > : Latest sawfish too. > > > > Yeah, but ports often apply several patches to make things work right on > > > > FreeBSD, those patches could have been updated without a version upgrade > > > > of gnome. Given that you installed from a snapshot of yesterday, you > > should have the latest ports though. At this point, I'm not sure what > > the > > problem is.. Maybe someone who runs the combination would have an idea. > > > > * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * > > > > -- > > Dolgan > > icq@14444322 > > dolgan@linuxfan.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Coleman Kane > President, > UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu -- Dolgan icq@14444322 dolgan@linuxfan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 0:17: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DE4E37B8A1 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:17:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 29 Jun 2000 08:16:59 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:16:58 +0100 From: David Malone To: mike@sentex.net Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange FreeBSD 4.x system freezes and SQUID Message-ID: <20000629081658.A15923@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <395ac5d3.371222900@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <395ac5d3.371222900@mail.sentex.net>; from mike@sentex.net on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 03:50:04AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 03:50:04AM +0000, mike@sentex.net wrote: > This is after rotating the logs an hours ago via cron. The freevnodes > keeps going down until the next rotate. Why would rotating a few big logs > cause these values to change so much ? Maybe it is a side effect of HUPing squid, not the fact that it rotated it's logs. Could it do some sort of cleanup run, which involves closing file discriptore or something? David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 1: 2:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fagot.techno.ru (fagot.techno.ru [195.161.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4C737BB34 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hitower@don.sitek.net) Received: from keeper.dungeon (ppp11.ats74.donpac.ru [195.161.173.202]) by fagot.techno.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA19326; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:53:18 +0400 (MSD) Received: from don.sitek.net (nest.dungeon [10.0.0.254]) by keeper.dungeon (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA37666; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:00:45 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from hitower@don.sitek.net) Message-ID: <395B01DB.59801A33@don.sitek.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:59:23 +0400 From: Max Mukhin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Stan Brown , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: HELP PLEAS! with Oracle install! References: <200006262303.QAA16150@netcom.com> <395A5627.82EF1F17@cup.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may install Oracle on Linux machine and then copy it to FreeBSD box.I heard this works -- [mailto:hitower@don.sitek.net = ICQ 21050590 = Rostov-on-Don, Russia] [ PGP fingerprint:2E26 C4FF 6940 1F7E 0188 1684 7B21 CF13 068D AE82 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 1:17:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dastor.albury.net.au (dastor.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE3B37BB2E for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicks@dastor.albury.net.au) Received: (from nicks@localhost) by dastor.albury.net.au (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e5T8H6982196 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:17:06 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:17:06 +1000 From: Nick Slager To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld dying in libssh Message-ID: <20000629181706.A81878@albury.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Homer: Whoohooooooo! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone please bash me with the clue stick? I'm obviously doing something wrong. Going from 4.0-RELASE to -STABLE, pulling crypto bits from internat as I'm in Australia. I've also tried getting the crypto distribution from cvsup2.au.freebsd.org, with the same result. On going through the archives, it would appear I have cvsupped -current's crypto. If that's the case, how do I get the crypto distribution for -STABLE? My crypto supfile: *default host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-crypto src-secure src-sys-crypto /etc/make.conf has USA_RESIDENT=NO. Pointers to RTFM appreciated, along with directions to TFM :-) Nick. ------------------------------- ===> libssh cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/authfd.c -o authfd.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/authfile.c -o authfile.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/aux.c -o aux.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/bufaux.c -o bufaux.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/buffer.c -o buffer.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/canohost.c -o canohost.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/channels.c -o channels.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/cipher.c -o cipher.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/compat.c -o compat.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/compress.c -o compress.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/crc32.c -o crc32.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/deattack.c -o deattack.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/fingerprint.c -o fingerprint.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/hostfile.c -o hostfile.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/log.c -o log.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/match.c -o match.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/mpaux.c -o mpaux.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/nchan.c -o nchan.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/packet.c -o packet.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/readpass.c -o readpass.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/rsa.c -o rsa.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/tildexpand.c -o tildexpand.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/ttymodes.c -o ttymodes.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/uidswap.c -o uidswap.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/xmalloc.c -o xmalloc.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/atomicio.c -o atomicio.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/key.c -o key.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/dispatch.c -o dispatch.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/dsa.c -o dsa.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/kex.c -o kex.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/hmac.c -o hmac.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/uuencode.c -o uuencode.o cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c -o auth-skey.o /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c: In function `auth_skey_password': /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:20: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c: In function `skey_fake_keyinfo': /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: `OPIE_HASHNAME_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/secure/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- From a Sun Microsystems bug report (#4102680): "Workaround: don't pound on the mouse like a wild monkey." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 3:15:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112A637B5A2; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA19653; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:15:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Nick Slager Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld dying in libssh In-Reply-To: <20000629181706.A81878@albury.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Nick Slager wrote: > Can someone please bash me with the clue stick? I'm obviously doing something > wrong. Looks like you've updated the crypto code without the rest of the system. *clue* :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 3:20: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2412D37BDC9; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA20136; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Ted Faber Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) In-Reply-To: <200006290522.WAA00780@praxis.lunabase.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Ted Faber wrote: > I'm running 4.0-STABLE as of a few days ago and I wanted to move from > the ssh-1.2.27 port over to the OpenSSH in the main tree. It seems to > me that X11 connection forwarding is hosed. Someone else complained about this once (Brian Feldman, green@freebsd.org) and couldn't track it down - dunno if he ever got it fixed. However, it's always Just Worked for me and everyone else I've heard of (I just tried it again then) :-( Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 3:22:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F5737BA37; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA20288; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:22:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Warner Losh Cc: kmays , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use 4.0-STABLE or 5.0-CURRENT? In-Reply-To: <200006290445.WAA61759@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <00ad01bfe180$8ca74860$b8f11e3f@KenMays> "kmays" writes: > : Question #1: Should be use v4.0-STABLE for production and > : 5.0-20000625-CURRENT for new development/testing?? > > Yes. -current is about to get ugly soon. June 25 is as good/bad as > anything. ..but since you're a new user, you shouldn't use -current. You're expected to know what you're doing and how to repair your own system when it goes bad. Sorry to be blunt, but newbies aren't welcome in -current, for their own safety and our sanity :-) Stick to 4.0-release or -stable and enjoy :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 3:23:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7B037BA28; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA20341; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:23:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Nader Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE In-Reply-To: <395AD649.D30BEDB5@grove.iup.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Nader wrote: > hi there, > i have FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE installed on my system. if i cvsup to the > stable .... will it show FreeBSD 4.0-yyyymmdd-STABLE or just FreeBSD > 4.0-STABLE? 'cause on one of the machines i have i upgraded to > 4.0-STABLE like 6 weeks ago and it'sa showing FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE .... i > just hate it when the yymmdd shows! The former is when you install a snapshot, as opposed to making world. > by the way, anybody knows when 4.1 will be released? Target date is mid-July Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 3:46:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B67F37BB20 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:46:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA34774; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:46:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000629064042.03e12f08@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:42:05 -0400 To: David Malone From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Strange FreeBSD 4.x system freezes and SQUID Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000629081658.A15923@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <395ac5d3.371222900@mail.sentex.net> <395ac5d3.371222900@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:16 AM 6/29/2000 +0100, David Malone wrote: >On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 03:50:04AM +0000, mike@sentex.net wrote: > > This is after rotating the logs an hours ago via cron. The freevnodes > > keeps going down until the next rotate. Why would rotating a few big logs > > cause these values to change so much ? > >Maybe it is a side effect of HUPing squid, not the fact that it >rotated it's logs. Could it do some sort of cleanup run, which >involves closing file discriptore or something? If I squid -k shutdown and start him again, the problem starts right away again. If there is something I can do to help track this down, please let me know. I can stop rotating the logs and force the issue. I just dont know what info would be helpful to provide. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 4:18:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dastor.albury.net.au (dastor.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FCB37BB8E; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicks@dastor.albury.net.au) Received: (from nicks@localhost) by dastor.albury.net.au (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e5TBHxo84906; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:17:59 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:17:59 +1000 From: Nick Slager To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: buildworld dying in libssh Message-ID: <20000629211759.A84643@albury.net.au> References: <20000629181706.A81878@albury.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 03:15:44AM -0700 X-Homer: Whoohooooooo! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Kris Kennaway (kris@FreeBSD.org): > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Nick Slager wrote: > > > Can someone please bash me with the clue stick? I'm obviously doing > > something wrong. > > Looks like you've updated the crypto code without the rest of the system. > > *clue* :-) > :-) Thanks. I had [for reasons undetermined] omitted src-contrib and src-gnu. Thanks again, Nick. -- From a Sun Microsystems bug report (#4102680): "Workaround: don't pound on the mouse like a wild monkey." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 4:26:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.dsl.visi.com (kirk.dsl.visi.com [209.98.248.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8AD37BB87 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:26:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dsl.visi.com) Received: from localhost (dgl@localhost) by kirk.dsl.visi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA19307 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:26:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dsl.visi.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:26:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Doug Lee To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: snapshot --> make world: what happens to the yyyymmdd? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Responding to a thread I read and already deleted... If I install a 4.0 snapshot, I understand it will print the snapshot date as part of the OS version identification... but if I then cvsup and make world, will the date stay the same, change, or vanish? -- Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 4:27:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B0D37BB7F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:27:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08110; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:27:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <395B328E.6FE7F851@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:27:10 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Ted Faber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Ted Faber wrote: > > > I'm running 4.0-STABLE as of a few days ago and I wanted to move from > > the ssh-1.2.27 port over to the OpenSSH in the main tree. It seems to > > me that X11 connection forwarding is hosed. > Just a thought. Since you are moving from the port to the base system. Rename/move the config files in you home directory and any still in /usr/local/etc since /etc is used. Just to make sure this is a "clean" setup. Jim -- Studies show that 1 out of every 4 Americans suffer some form of mental illness. So look at your three best friends, if they are okay it is YOU! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 4:30:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.matrixtek.net (mimatrix-2.iserv.net [206.114.39.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD2F37BB33 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Received: from localhost (platypus@localhost) by wombat.matrixtek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00414 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:39:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Fuller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ethernet card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just did an upgrade from 3.x-stable to 4-stable. The whole process went over very well, and everything in my system works great, except my 3Com ethernet card (which worked just fine before the upgrade). This kinda makes a frantic time for me, since this is my main sever AND gateway to my network. I have been looking through the archives for this list and not finding anything that resolves my problem here. I have tried everything I can think of, including making the ep0 setup in the kernel match exactly what it had been for 3.x. The message I am getting is: ifconfig: interface ep0 does not exist my rc.conf on this says: network_interfaces="ep0 lo0 tun0" # List of network interfaces (lo0 is loopback). ifconfig_ep0="inet 206.114.39.193 netmask 255.255.255.240" ifconfig_ep0_alias0="inet 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0" Also, get messages: ad1: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# xxxxxx retrying etc. Any suggestions? Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! -- http://www.cauce.org VirusScan Detected Windows: (A)bort, (D)elete, (F)ormat C: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 4:36:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BA037BB33 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08159; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:36:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <395B34BF.C8CEB080@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:36:31 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Fuller , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason Fuller wrote: > > I just did an upgrade from 3.x-stable to 4-stable. The whole process went > over very well, and everything in my system works great, except my 3Com > ethernet card (which worked just fine before the upgrade). This kinda > makes a frantic time for me, since this is my main sever AND gateway to my > network. I have been looking through the archives for this list and not > finding anything that resolves my problem here. I have tried everything I > can think of, including making the ep0 setup in the kernel match exactly > what it had been for 3.x. The message I am getting is: > ifconfig: interface ep0 does not exist > If you compile and boot the GENERIC kernel what happens? You don't mention the 3COM type. It might be possible that the card is in a different driver? Does you dmesg show the card being detected? Jim -- Studies show that 1 out of every 4 Americans suffer some form of mental illness. So look at your three best friends, if they are okay it is YOU! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 4:46: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3BF37B5A2 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: from fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BA71EA; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:45:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <395B36F1.23D00EE1@fernuni-hagen.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:45:53 +0200 From: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Organization: FernUni in Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, German/Germany, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 3c905 pci card and the following lines in the kernel config files (this changed from 3.x): device miibus # do you have this? device xl -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 5:11:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.matrixtek.net (mimatrix-2.iserv.net [206.114.39.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A4837B825 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:11:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Received: from localhost (platypus@localhost) by wombat.matrixtek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00238 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:20:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:20:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Fuller To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card In-Reply-To: <395B34BF.C8CEB080@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > Jason Fuller wrote: > > > > ifconfig: interface ep0 does not exist > > > If you compile and boot the GENERIC kernel what happens? You don't > mention the 3COM type. It might be possible that the card is in a > different driver? Does you dmesg show the card being detected? Same message booting from the GENERIC kernel. ifconfig: interface ep0 does not exist 3COM 3c509B-TPO 10T/10-2 card, I believe. As I said, it worked fine in 3.x-stable. The card is ISA Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! -- http://www.cauce.org VirusScan Detected Windows: (A)bort, (D)elete, (F)ormat C: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 5:16:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD37C37B581 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08347; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:16:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <395B3E02.1FA5AFAF@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:16:02 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Fuller Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason Fuller wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > > > Jason Fuller wrote: > > > > > > ifconfig: interface ep0 does not exist > > > > > If you compile and boot the GENERIC kernel what happens? You don't > > mention the 3COM type. It might be possible that the card is in a > > different driver? Does you dmesg show the card being detected? > > Same message booting from the GENERIC kernel. But what does dmesg from GENERIC say??? Does it find any cards? Jim -- Studies show that 1 out of every 4 Americans suffer some form of mental illness. So look at your three best friends, if they are okay it is YOU! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 5:25:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED7037B7A4 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id QAA08853; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:28:30 +0200 Message-ID: <395B4064.C114985C@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:26:12 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de Organization: i-clue interactive GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Lee Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: snapshot --> make world: what happens to the yyyymmdd? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Lee wrote: > > Responding to a thread I read and already deleted... > > If I install a 4.0 snapshot, I understand it will print the snapshot date > as part of the OS version identification... but if I then cvsup and make > world, will the date stay the same, change, or vanish? It will change to the date you compiled the source, uname -a will show the machine it was compiled on, along with the date and the tag. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 6:14:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.matrixtek.net (mimatrix-2.iserv.net [206.114.39.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F41437BAD1 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:14:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Received: from localhost (platypus@localhost) by wombat.matrixtek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00235 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:23:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:23:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Fuller To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card In-Reply-To: <395B3E02.1FA5AFAF@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > But what does dmesg from GENERIC say??? Does it find any cards? Well, this time it said it found the card (with full description 3COM etherlink 3c509 etc) on ep0, then it started screaming about the eeprom on ep0 and stuff. Then it said it was starting up and setting up hostname and froze there. I have PNP OS turned off in the bios. (And because the bootloader started working suddenly on me, I am finding it near impossible to boot the GENERIC kernel again...at least not without risking not being able to load the hacked again.) Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! -- http://www.cauce.org VirusScan Detected Windows: (A)bort, (D)elete, (F)ormat C: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 6:40:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.megatrends.com (mail3.megatrends.com [155.229.80.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F2937B7D7 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vineshc@ami.com) Received: by atl_es1.megatrends.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:46:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4A78850EF802D211BB3900805FFE55550BA84D@atl_es1.megatrends.com> From: Vinesh Christopher To: 'Jaye Mathisen' , stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: world failure... Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:46:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I ran into this problem when the system date is showing a old date and it got corrected once I set the correct date. Check your system date. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jaye Mathisen [SMTP:mrcpu@internetcds.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 1:54 AM > To: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: world failure... > > > > I'm getting this after a sup this afternoon on 4.0-stable. > > cd /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl; make > _EXTRADEPEND > cc -O -pipe > -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../ > ../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/i386/usr/include -c > /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../.. > /contrib/perl5/perl.c > -o perl.o > cc -O -pipe > -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../ > ../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/i386/usr/include -c > /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../.. > /contrib/perl5/gv.c > -o gv.o > cc -O -pipe > -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > -I/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../ > ../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/i386/usr/include -c > /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../.. > /contrib/perl5/toke.c > -o toke.o > mkdir: build: File exists > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /n/apocalypse/exports/FreeBSD/4.0/src. > > And sure enough, it does, however, I did start with a clean /usr/obj... > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 6:50:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.craxx.nl (mail.craxx.nl [195.85.153.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31CE37BCC8 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd.stable@lists.craxx.nl) Received: from cartman (segfault.craxx.nl [195.85.153.236]) by mail.craxx.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C7EE1E80E for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:50:16 +0200 (CEST) From: "laurens van alphen (craxx)" To: Subject: Using a CD for firewalls Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:50:15 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, We're using PicoBSD on floppy disks (1.44MB) for our current firewall config. As our version is highly customized, I dont like the complex build proces and the uneasy way to keep track of changes in the PicoBSD base system (the build proces for example). However, as space is limited, so are the possibilities. You can't have all ipfilter tools, openssh (client & server), snmpd, dchrelay and a bloated kernel on a single disk. Also, floppy disks tend to go bad once in a while and are painfully slow. We're currently looking into using CD's as a replacement. The are cheap to replace and easy to build (keep an image on a bsd toaster). Also the firewall itself will be standards-based (unlike LS120 or Flashdisk) and can be swapped in and out with standard hardware, when shit hits the fan; the firewall could be any desktop machine with a cdrom and 3 or more NICs. I'm looking for pointers on how to best approach this. So far it's easy to make a 2.88MB disk image that holds a kernel & boot loader but then; - I'd prefer to use the floppy emulation for bootloading only and mount the rest of the CD (up to about 650MB) as root that holds the kernel, init, rc and basically the rest of the OS. - Where does cdboot (/usr/src/sys/i386/boot/cdboot) come in handy? What does it do and when better avoid it? Any help, hints, pointers are welcome. Is anyone working on the same? We might as well share experience. Of course I'll be willing to contribute whatever i come up with back to the FreeBSD project. Other things to keep in mind about this CD thing: - You can't edit a single file. Maybe /etc should move off to MD so we can at edit online. How would mounting another CD work when the CD is our root fs? - Could be better to keep / to the 2.88MB floppy and mount /bin /var /usr and /etc from the CD so it can be unmounted at runtime. Does CD support different labels (sessions?) on a single CD so I could say: mount /dev/acd0? /usr mount /dev/acd0? /etc - Could / be double mounted? Once from the 2.88MB floppy emulation, once from the CD itself? You can then unmount the CD and remount another CD. How would that work? Thanks in advance, -- laurens van alphen, craxx alphen@craxx.nl, http://www.craxx.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 6:58:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.matrixtek.net (mimatrix-2.iserv.net [206.114.39.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CA437BA28 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:58:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Received: from localhost (platypus@localhost) by wombat.matrixtek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04830 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:07:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:07:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Fuller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet card (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > Jason Fuller wrote: > At the prompt where it asks to ENTER to boot press the space bar. Then > type "unload" to unload the current kernel. Then you can type "boot > GENERIC" or what ever you named the GENERIC kernel to. I can handle the hard stuff. It's the easy stuff that gets me. It crashes hard on GENERIC, so I cannot get a dmesg, but I do have written down what it says in that area (before it crashes) plip0: on ppbus0 ep0: <3Com 3C509-TPO EtherLink III> at port 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa0 ep0: eeprom failed to come ready ep0: eeprom failed to come ready ep0: eeprom failed to come ready ep0: eeprom failed to come ready ep0: eeprom failed to come ready ep0: Ethernet address 00:00:00:00:00:00 ad0: (drive stuff) ad1: (drive stuff) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/wd0s1a swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap drive (File system checks skipped/clean) Doing initial network setup: hostname It freezes badly there, allowing no keyboard inputs even to reboot (ctrl-alt-del). I had to either hit reset button or power switch. Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! -- http://www.cauce.org VirusScan Detected Windows: (A)bort, (D)elete, (F)ormat C: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 7: 3:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AD837BA1D for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e5TE2vN21926; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:02:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200006291402.e5TE2vN21926@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: Ethernet card (fwd) In-Reply-To: "from Jason Fuller at Jun 29, 2000 10:07:42 am" To: Jason Fuller Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check for an interupt conflict. Larry Rosenman > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > > > Jason Fuller wrote: > > At the prompt where it asks to ENTER to boot press the space bar. Then > > type "unload" to unload the current kernel. Then you can type "boot > > GENERIC" or what ever you named the GENERIC kernel to. > > I can handle the hard stuff. It's the easy stuff that gets me. > It crashes hard on GENERIC, so I cannot get a dmesg, but I do have written > down what it says in that area (before it crashes) > > plip0: on ppbus0 > ep0: <3Com 3C509-TPO EtherLink III> at port 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa0 > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready > ep0: Ethernet address 00:00:00:00:00:00 > ad0: (drive stuff) > ad1: (drive stuff) > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/wd0s1a > swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap drive > (File system checks skipped/clean) > Doing initial network setup: hostname > > It freezes badly there, allowing no keyboard inputs even to reboot > (ctrl-alt-del). I had to either hit reset button or power switch. > > Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! -- http://www.cauce.org > > VirusScan Detected Windows: (A)bort, (D)elete, (F)ormat C: > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 7:12:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F9437BC97 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@veriohosting.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:12:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.7) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma025304; Thu, 29 Jun 00 08:12:06 -0600 Received: from vespa.orem.iserver.com (vespa.orem.iserver.com [192.168.1.144]) by orca.orem.veriohosting.com [Verio Web Hosting, Inc. 801.437.0200] (8.8.8) id IAA23624; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:12:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:18:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Fred Clift X-Sender: fred@vespa.orem.iserver.com To: Ted Faber Cc: Steve Coltrin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) In-Reply-To: <200006290539.WAA01604@praxis.lunabase.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Thanks for the suggestion, but for the record, X11 forwarding is > turned on in both the client and server config files. > > If you look at the trace, the client requests the X11 forwarding > service when the first connection is established, but when the client > actually asks for a connection, there's an authorization failure of > some kind in ssh. Because this failure has happened with both the > OpenSSH cleint in -stable and the ssh client in the 1.2.27 port, I > think the problem is in the OpenSSH server. (A 1.2.27 client and > 1.2.27 server do the X11 forwarding correctly, so I don't think the > problem is X server configuration, either.) Fore the record -- I had the exact same problem with a 4.0-RELEASE box I have on which I set up OpenSSH. Both a variety of ssh clients and the OpenSSH server configured to allow X forwarding and couldn't get it to actually forward X connections. Got a wierd protocol authentication error that I dont recall off hand. Note that it seemed to be latency related because when I tried from a box on the same local lan, it worked almost all of the time, but when I tried over an ISDN link through a couple of slow routers, etc it never worked. I found the exact same error message somewhere in the archives at openssh.org or .net or wherever the web site is, but no resolution, and then I found someone else complaining about it in one of the bsd usenet newsgroups, but he never replied to my querries. So, I did the logical thing and went back to non-OpenSSH server and haven't had any problems. Let us all know if you figure out anything -- kind of frustrating -- I burned several hours of time trying to track this down with no luck. Fred Clift -- fred@clift.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 7:22: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1B837BCC8 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA60585; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:22:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:22:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: James Housley Cc: Ted Faber , imp@village.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) In-Reply-To: <395B328E.6FE7F851@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: >Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >> On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Ted Faber wrote: >> >> > I'm running 4.0-STABLE as of a few days ago and I wanted to move from >> > the ssh-1.2.27 port over to the OpenSSH in the main tree. It seems to >> > me that X11 connection forwarding is hosed. >> >Just a thought. Since you are moving from the port to the base system. >Rename/move the config files in you home directory and any still in >/usr/local/etc since /etc is used. Just to make sure this is a "clean" >setup. The smart thing to do would be to do a "pkg_delete ssh" or "cd /usr/ports/net/ssh && make deinstall" *before* installing the new 4.x world. src/UPDATING contains news of this and instructions on how one might accomplish the move. Mr. Faber should be aware of this file as should all who track stable and he should use it approriately. 20000225: OpenSSH has been added to FreeBSD. This may conflict with the ports/security/ssh port since it installs binaries into /usr/bin and the port goes into /usr/local/bin. Most paths have /usr/bin in the path before /usr/local/bin, so problems may arise. If you don't want OpenSSH, add NO_OPENSSH=yes to your make.conf. You will also need to enable OpenSSH in /etc/rc.conf if you want to run the new servers. You may need to move your host key and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc/ssh. OpenSSH's command line parsing, available options and default settings aren't the same as ssh, so some care needs to be taken in its operation. One should do a full audit of all configuration settings. Warner: Perhaps an entry on how best to remove the old port would be appropriate there as well? Your call. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 7:34:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F1E37BE40 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7A1E8D3 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA89689; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:34:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.24160.331152.51159@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:34:08 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) In-Reply-To: <200006290539.WAA01604@praxis.lunabase.org> References: <200006290534.XAA36761@code.cs.unm.edu> <200006290539.WAA01604@praxis.lunabase.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "TF" == Ted Faber writes: TF> actually asks for a connection, there's an authorization failure of TF> some kind in ssh. Because this failure has happened with both the TF> OpenSSH cleint in -stable and the ssh client in the 1.2.27 port, I The OpenSSH server can't handle keys encrypted with IDEA. I had this problem when I first made the switch. The fix was to change my password using the original ssh-keygen program. When I first created my key, IDEA was the default cypher, but now it is DES or 3DES, I forget which. OpenSSH can deal just fine with DES encrypted keys. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 7:34:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1EA37BE40 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:34:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B337137F1C for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA51070; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:34:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:34:19 -0400 (EDT) To: Freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: dc19 fructration. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I type 'ifconfig -a' or 'netstat -i' and I have 20 dc interfaces (dc0 to dc19) ... what chunks of code are running in the kernel? Something is stack smashing, and my efforts at debugging are being thwarted by the fact that whatever is going wrong is covering it's tracks rather effectively. To update the people who havn't been following, ifconfig -a on a box with 20 dc interfaces double-panics the machine. This is easily repeatable. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 8:36:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30CA37B667 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber@lunabase.org) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org ([63.200.244.110]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWX002HR9L4K8@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by praxis.lunabase.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04579; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:24:55 -0700 X-URL: http://www.lunabase.org/~faber Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:24:55 -0700 From: Ted Faber Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) In-reply-to: "Your message of Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:22:24 EDT." To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: James Housley , imp@village.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <200006291524.IAA04579@praxis.lunabase.org> Organization: My Secret Broadcast Base on the Moon X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: >world. src/UPDATING contains news of this and instructions on how one >might accomplish the move. Mr. Faber should be aware of this file as >should all who track stable and he should use it approriately. Mr Faber is aware of the file, how to control ports, and made the appropriate changes to the configuration files. Thanks for your input. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 iD8DBQE5W2pGaUz3f+Zf+XsRAiR1AJwOEkB8kag0sNGl1L7yIWgc7sIgXgCeKPCd JnrAMqdVqZtr04XV3A9q6hE= =fb/X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 8:49:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2AD37B656 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA61448 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:50:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:50:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Compaq ProLiant 6500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've recently been offered a great deal on a Compaq ProLiant 6500. I was looking for success and/or horror stories before I go ahead and buy it. But I think it's a pretty exciting machine. It's a 4-way PPro, 7U RM, with all kinds of goodies. I2O support and the whole bit. I know there are a lot of Dell fans on this list, but if they were presented with this offer, they'd buy a Compaq too. I'm gonna put it in my rack at home and probably run the SMP code from -stable on it. I've already got 2 dual SMP boxen running it and am quite happy. I've also got a third dual SMP motherboard I'm contemplating taking through the -current SMP trials as a tester. But I digress..anyone have experience with FreeBSD on one of these or a similiar machine and can make a recommendation? If there's some aspect of the hardware configuration you'd need to give me a recommendation, it's available from: http://www.compaq.com/products/servers/proliant6500/index.html Thanks. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 9: 7:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FC137BC14 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e5TG7ne08925; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:07:49 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: David Gilbert Cc: Freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. Message-ID: <20000629090749.J275@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:34:19AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * David Gilbert [000629 07:37] wrote: > When I type 'ifconfig -a' or 'netstat -i' and I have 20 dc interfaces > (dc0 to dc19) ... what chunks of code are running in the kernel? > > Something is stack smashing, and my efforts at debugging are being > thwarted by the fact that whatever is going wrong is covering it's > tracks rather effectively. > > To update the people who havn't been following, ifconfig -a on a box > with 20 dc interfaces double-panics the machine. This is easily > repeatable. Using truss or gdb on ifconfig may help you find out which syscall is the culpret. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 9:38:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6267B37B80D for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:38:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE28A137F07; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA63029; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:38:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:38:15 -0400 (EDT) To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: David Gilbert , Freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <20000629090749.J275@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629090749.J275@fw.wintelcom.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Alfred" == Alfred Perlstein writes: Alfred> Using truss or gdb on ifconfig may help you find out which Alfred> syscall is the culpret. Problem is that the system crashes before ifconfig -a completes, and it would appear that the stack smashing that whatever syscall is running does will bring down the kernel regardless of how I proceed. I was asking specifically if someone new the approximate code path that ifconfig -a traversed since I was having trouble collecting this data. I would assume that even if I knew what syscall was running that I'd have to trace my way through a maze of function pointers before I got my way clear. dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 9:48:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E5F37B7C6 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:48:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e5TGmfo10107; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:48:41 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: David Gilbert Cc: Freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. Message-ID: <20000629094841.N275@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629090749.J275@fw.wintelcom.net> <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:38:15PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * David Gilbert [000629 09:38] wrote: > >>>>> "Alfred" == Alfred Perlstein writes: > > Alfred> Using truss or gdb on ifconfig may help you find out which > Alfred> syscall is the culpret. > > Problem is that the system crashes before ifconfig -a completes, and > it would appear that the stack smashing that whatever syscall is > running does will bring down the kernel regardless of how I proceed. truss should get you _some_ output before the system explodes, this is what we need. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 9:51:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6199C37C097 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse@ISI.EDU) Received: from [128.9.176.141] (ras41.isi.edu [128.9.176.141]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10951; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:51:13 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:51:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Ethernet card From: Lars Eggert To: Jason Fuller , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > 3COM 3c509B-TPO > 10T/10-2 card, I believe. 3com has pretty nice diagnostic/config software for this available from their support site, if you have any chance to run Windows at all. This card can be configured to either use PnP or fixed config settings using the Windows tool. Do you know which mode you were running in? If you run in non-PnP mode, you need to set the irq/port/etc in your kernel config, otherwise leave unspecified. > As I said, it worked fine in 3.x-stable. What does the ep0 line in your 3.X kernel look like? What does it look like in your 4.X kernel? -- Lars Eggert Information Sciences Institute http://www.isi.edu/~larse/ University of Southern California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10: 2:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F21837BF54 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09909; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:02:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <395B811D.BBA77F1D@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:02:21 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert Cc: Jason Fuller , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lars Eggert wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > > 3COM 3c509B-TPO > > 10T/10-2 card, I believe. > > 3com has pretty nice diagnostic/config software for this available from > their support site, if you have any chance to run Windows at all. > This utility will also will run in DOS. A Boot Dos disk is easier to find. Jim -- Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10: 3:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from by.ritel.net (by.ritel.net [194.184.48.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FBB37BF54 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:03:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gbalda@glomanet.com) Received: from sviluppo (urano.sv.infotel.it [194.184.48.137]) by by.ritel.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA02858 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:05:43 +0200 From: "Gian-Carlo Baldarelli" To: Subject: SUBSCRIBE Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:00:19 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10:15: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB8E37BA16 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90A0137F16 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA66604 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:14:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.33049.32674.916004@trooper.velocet.net> In-Reply-To: <20000629125307.G46772@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629090749.J275@fw.wintelcom.net> <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629125307.G46772@stat.Duke.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: David Gilbert To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: David Gilbert Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a test box here which fails, but while I exercise that, http://trooper.velocet.net/~dgilbert/ktrace.ifconfig-a.txt is a kdump from a machine with 4 dc ports (I don't have any 1 port machines with dc interfaces). Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10:15:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E5A37BF68 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BE0137F10 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:14:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA66615 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:14:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.33049.32674.916004@trooper.velocet.net> In-Reply-To: <20000629125307.G46772@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629090749.J275@fw.wintelcom.net> <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629125307.G46772@stat.Duke.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: David Gilbert To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: David Gilbert Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a test box here which fails, but while I exercise that, http://trooper.velocet.net/~dgilbert/ktrace.ifconfig-a.txt is a kdump from a machine with 4 dc ports (I don't have any 1 port machines with dc interfaces). Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10:15:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D503F37B943 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853B3137F10 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA66703 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:15:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.33049.32674.916004@trooper.velocet.net> In-Reply-To: <20000629125307.G46772@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629090749.J275@fw.wintelcom.net> <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629125307.G46772@stat.Duke.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: David Gilbert To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: David Gilbert Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a test box here which fails, but while I exercise that, http://trooper.velocet.net/~dgilbert/ktrace.ifconfig-a.txt is a kdump from a machine with 4 dc ports (I don't have any 1 port machines with dc interfaces). Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10:18: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400EE37BFF7 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:18:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A49E137F16 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA66934; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:18:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.33992.513902.941669@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:18:00 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: eip? (more dc19 frustration) X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I get the following when the panic (caused by ifconfig -a and the 20 dc interfaces): Fatal double fault: eip = 0xc023f114 esp = 0xca0c6000 ebp = 0xca0c602c panic: double fault Debugger("panic") Stopped at Debugger+0x35: movb $0,in_Debugger.390 ... is there useful information there that I can attempt to translate? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10:22:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.matrixtek.net (mimatrix-2.iserv.net [206.114.39.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DFE37B810 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Received: from localhost (platypus@localhost) by wombat.matrixtek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00448 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:31:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from platypus@wombat.matrixtek.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:31:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Fuller To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card In-Reply-To: <395B811D.BBA77F1D@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > Lars Eggert wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, James Housley wrote: > > > 3COM 3c509B-TPO > > > 10T/10-2 card, I believe. > > > > 3com has pretty nice diagnostic/config software for this available from > > their support site, if you have any chance to run Windows at all. > > > This utility will also will run in DOS. A Boot Dos disk is easier to > find. A reconfig of the card through the dos utility to make it PNP with the bios PNP off seems to have allowed FreeBSD to see it and use it nicely. A bit confusing, maybe, why this would be the case, but it is so. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10:23: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C60137B6E0; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:22:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000629172344.PCLB159.relay01@chello.nl>; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:23:44 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01525; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:22:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:22:45 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: microuptime() going backwards Message-ID: <20000629192245.A1456@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200006280321.UAA00490@mass.osd.bsdi.com> <200006290633.XAA01381@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006290633.XAA01381@mass.osd.bsdi.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:33:53PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:33:53PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required. > > > > > > > > Any idea what is causing this? > > > > > > Yup. Is this an Epox board? I think it's a bug in the APM code. It > > > even bites if APM is disabled. Try completely removing APM from the > > > kernel. > > > > I explained this to you at Usenix, actually. It has nothing to do with > > APM, it has to do with the selection of clocks available with/without APM > > compiled into the kernel - there is probably either a bug in the TSC > > hardware on this CPU, or (more likely) a bug in the timecounter code > > (since people see this on !APM systems already). > > s/TSC hardware/i8254 hardware/ > > (the TSC is disabled when APM is compiled in, and this forces the use of > the i8254) Allow me a silly question: what is the TSC exactly? Probably something in the CPU per: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (700.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x621 Stepping = 1 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0400000 -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10:35:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BFB37C1A9 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:35:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05876137F16 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA68476; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:35:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.35054.415664.112592@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:35:42 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: sdiff of ifconfig -l and -a X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Someone suggested ifconfig -l --- which works. Ifconfig -a still crashes, so I've put the sdiffs up at http://trooper.velocet.net/~dgilbert/ifconfig-sdif Now... it would appear that for each interface, ifconfig -a calls a bunch of socket stuff --- to get the MTU 'n such. Ifconfig on each individual interface works. I would assume that the MTUs are checked there... but something in the ifconfig -a (and not -l) is hanging the machine. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 10:47:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB0537B978 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:47:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EED137F16 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA69565; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:47:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.35748.643965.363053@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:47:16 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: More reports from the dc19 front. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unfortunately I can only add/subtract ports in 4 port increments... but 16 ports does not crash with ifconfig -a and 20 ports does. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 11: 2:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9245237C42C for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:01:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000629180154.HYOH18210.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:01:54 -0700 Message-ID: <395B2CA9.7CF1FF68@home.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:02:01 -0700 From: Dolgan Reply-To: dolgan@linuxfan.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000627-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? References: <4402410.962264016458.JavaMail.imail@puffer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, I don't think this is something that's impossible to fix. Because it was fixed... twice. Every time Netscape core dumps and I go back into X (Netscape crashing kills X), it works *better* than Linux. And it's not only a performance issue. Gnome thinks sawfish isn't gnome-compliant - until Netscape core dumps, then it's fine. So maybe something with some libraries or somesuch. I don't know enough to know what it could be... Rudynell Millian wrote: > Dolgan; > > I understand you're new to FBSD. Welcome aboard. You can uninstall a port > just like you would uninstall a package. Use pkg_delete. Also, you can > update your ports collection with cvsup. Check the handbook for details. > Unless you didn't install the documentation, you should have a copy of the > handbook on your system (/usr/local/share/doc or something like that.) The > bad news is that you need a web browser to read the handbook (html), but you > can always use gnome itself for that. > > I'm having some problems with gnome too. The unfortunate truth is that you > will never get gnome to work as well on FBSD as it does on Linux. The > porting guys do their best, but until there's a commitment from the gnome > folks themselves to be FBSD compatible, you're going to continue to see > annoying problems. The same goes for KDE by the way. For example, I can't > find gdm for FBSD. The last time I used kdm on FBSD it was broken due to > some Linux specific dependencies. The authors of kdm think multiplatform > means supporting Suse and RedHat. > > Good luck, > > Rudy > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:05:41 -0700, Dolgan wrote: > > > I installed it from the ports. > > > > However, that was an unupdated ports. But it was from the ports that I > got > > when I installed 4.0-STABLE. So how old could it be? > > > > I don't know how to update the ports file. You think I should reinstall > from > > a later ports file? Not quite sure how to delete the old Gnome if so. > > > > I installed both from ports, btw. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matt Heckaman" > > To: "Dolgan" > > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 6:57 PM > > Subject: Re: Gnome compliance and speed? > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Question: Did you install GNOME/Sawfish from the ports? I do not use > > > sawfish (I'm a windowmaker fan) but I often use various gnome > applications > > > (not to mention compiling gnome (minus panel) support into everything I > > > can. (I really like Gnome) and I've never had a problem with anything > > > here. We have virtually identical machines; Celeron 400 / 128MB / > > > 4.0-STABLE (May 30 2000). Offhand, did you update the ports tree? (see > > > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile) > > > > > > I don't know if that's much help, but we'll see. :) > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > _______________________________________________________ > Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite > Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp -- Dolgan icq@14444322 dolgan@linuxfan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 11:10:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freemail.aecinfo.com (host-45.toronto.bricsnet.com [209.146.217.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEB037BB95 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitayai@bricsnet.com) Received: from itdept (host-102.toronto.bricsnet.com [209.146.217.102]) by freemail.aecinfo.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08734 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:10:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@bricsnet.com) From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: Subject: Follow-up: XirCom Realport Cardbus Modem/Ethernet PC card Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:13:55 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, folks... just following up to check on the status of support in 4.0-STABLE for the ethernet portion of a XirCom Realport Cardbus Modem/Ethernet PC card. Has the support managed to work its way in yet? I wish i could help, but i'm nowhere near good enough a programmer to do it. I can offer debugging help though... i already have 4.0-RELEASE on my laptop and can sync my source tree via a DOS partition or null modem cable. Regards, Mit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 11:14: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D311837B950 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from c169507b ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000629181351.IFWJ18210.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@c169507b> for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:13:51 -0700 Message-ID: <000901bfe1bb$1b8a36c0$2cad0b18@c169507b> Reply-To: "Dolgan" From: "Dolgan" Cc: References: <395A8837.1F934639@home.com> <20000629025131.A539@cokane.yi.org> <395A8F03.6F141D08@home.com> <395B90F3.8D31D990@network-alchemy.com> Subject: Re: Gnome compliance? Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:13:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't think that's it. Because see, when I reboot fresh after say going into Windows, and go into Gnome, it says sawfish isn't compliant and runs really slow. Once I open Netscape (which is about 10-15 minutes after it's been running bad and having all these weird errors and quirks), it core dumps and causes X to crash. THEN when I open X, it's juuuuust fine. No quirks, no slowdowns. ps aux has no Netscape or Communicator or anything in it unless Netscape is actually running (which it can only do for about 5 seconds maximum). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Ruhl" To: Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Gnome compliance? > I have had netscape processes take up 80% of my CPU, even after it > appeared that the browser was gone. > > After netscape dies, do a top command or ps -aux and see if there is > any netscape "helper" processes hanging out. That might be your > problem. > > Good luck, > > Mike > > Dolgan wrote: > > > > > > > > > More information. > > > > It seems that whenever Netscape crashes (every time I use it), and then when > > I do ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X (if I kill Netscape, then it kills X and > > renders it unrestartable until next reboot - no idea why), it core dumps etc > > etc. > > > > But here's the killer. When I go back into X after that, Gnome works fine. > > Netscape still doesn't. But Gnome works fine. So does sawfish. > > > > Here I say, W T F ? > > > > What IS this? Something to do with Netscape, X, and Sawfish... > > > > I wish I wasn't so inexperienced. Any help on this greatly appreciated. > > > > The problem, once again, is that Gnome is really slow and doesn't think > > sawfish is wm-compliant until Netscape core dumps. > > > > > > > > > > > Dolgan had the audacity to say: > > > > OK, this problem got a whole lot weirder, but a whole lot brighter. > > > > > > > > I noticed that Netscape kept crashing whenever I went to a site (It > > > > still does - but there's always > > > > Mozilla and right now, I want GNOME working. One problem at a time, > > > > right?), so I installed > > > > Netscape 3 for experiment's sake. > > > > > > > > Suddenly, I restarted X, and sawfish was "gnome compliant" and Gnome was > > > > zippy. That makes me > > > > think that sawfish's compliancy is causing Gnome to be sluggish - > > > > somehow. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, next time I restarted X it went back to crap. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what could be related to SAWFISH that could be causing > > > > Gnome to not think it's > > > > wm-compliant? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Dolgan wrote: > > > > ... > > > > : I installed clean from a 6-27-2000 snapshot. That was yesterday. > > > > Wouldn't > > > > : that make the ports updated, or not..? > > > > > > > > Hmm, it should yes. > > > > > > > > : Why would it be a ports thing, though? It's Gnome 1.2.1... latest. Is > > > > there > > > > : something weird with ports? > > > > : Latest sawfish too. > > > > > > > > Yeah, but ports often apply several patches to make things work right on > > > > > > > > FreeBSD, those patches could have been updated without a version upgrade > > > > > > > > of gnome. Given that you installed from a snapshot of yesterday, you > > > > should have the latest ports though. At this point, I'm not sure what > > > > the > > > > problem is.. Maybe someone who runs the combination would have an idea. > > > > > > > > * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dolgan > > > > icq@14444322 > > > > dolgan@linuxfan.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Coleman Kane > > > President, > > > UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu > > > > -- > > Dolgan > > icq@14444322 > > dolgan@linuxfan.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 11:17: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5B737BB6D for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:16:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 137irn-00027s-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:16:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:16:47 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Follow-up: XirCom Realport Cardbus Modem/Ethernet PC card Message-ID: <20000629141646.D4517@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mitayai@bricsnet.com on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:13:55PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe probably said: > Hi, folks... just following up to check on the status of support in > 4.0-STABLE for the ethernet portion of a XirCom Realport Cardbus > Modem/Ethernet PC card. Has the support managed to work its way in yet? Cardbus cards are not yet supported. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 11:22:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp23.singnet.com.sg (smtp23.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C839037BC8F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twchan@singnet.com.sg) Received: from twchan.singnet.com.sg (tns01125.singnet.com.sg [165.21.186.155]) by smtp23.singnet.com.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16909; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:22:12 +0800 (envelope-from twchan@singnet.com.sg) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000630021523.00aa54b0@zaapth> X-Sender: twchan@zaapth (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:20:53 +0800 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chan Tur Wei Subject: Re: Xircom PCMCIA card support Cc: "Kevin M. Dulzo" In-Reply-To: <20000622161825.A18963@caffeine.gerp.org> References: <200006220212.UAA85390@harmony.village.org> <20000621182406.A9734@caffeine.gerp.org> <200006220212.UAA85390@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Kevin M. Dulzo wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:18:25 -0500 > From: Kevin M. Dulzo > Reply-To: kdulzo@gerp.org > To: Warner Losh > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Xircom PCMCIA card support > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 08:12:55PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > What's your pccard.conf entry for this card? The config id 35 not > > present looks bad. > > > > Warner > This is using a default out of the box /etc/defaults/pccard.conf > CVSup'd to June 20th iirc. pccard.conf shows 2 entries one modem/one ether > the modem is NOT attached either. > > card "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56" > config 0x27 "xe0" ? > insert logger -t pccard:$device -s Xircom CreditCard Modem inserted > insert /etc/pccard_ether $device > remove logger -t pccard:$device -s Xircom CreditCard Modem removed > remove /sbin/ifconfig $device delete > > pccardc dumpcis output - I am sure someone will ask for this =) [...snip...] I was hoping to see an update regarding this problem Kevin brought up as I was having the same problem. Anyway, I dug into the cardd.c code in pccardd, and I realised that pccardd was matching against the following entry in /etc/defaults/pccard.conf: # Xircom CreditCard Ethernet+Modem (Modem only !!!) card "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet" config 0x23 "sio2" ? insert logger -t pccard:$device -s Xircom CreditCard Modem inserted remove logger -t pccard:$device -s Xircom CreditCard Modem removed which happens to happen before my (our?) desired entry: # Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + modem (Ethernet part) card "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56" config 0x27 "xe0" ? insert logger -t pccard:$device -s Xircom CreditCard Modem inserted insert /etc/pccard_ether $device remove logger -t pccard:$device -s Xircom CreditCard Modem removed remove /sbin/ifconfig $device delete It seems cis_strcmp() in cardd.c would return a match for "CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56" and "CreditCard Ethernet"; hence pccardd will try to use config 0x23 to configure the card, which doesn't work. I got around this by creating my own pccard.conf in /etc, ensuring that the Ethernet bit is before the modem stuff, then pointing rc.conf to my /etc/pccard.conf, then *wallah* things worked. Regards -T.W.Chan- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 11:27:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlh01.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlh01.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C832A37BC8F; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:27:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) To: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , James Housley , imp@village.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: rsowders@usgs.gov Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:27:16 -0700 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlh01/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.2b |December 16, 1999) at 06/29/2000 11:27:25 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

You should try to connect with the -v switch and send the output to the = list.  X11 forwarding problems could be any of a number of things incl= uding permissions on the /tmp dir.  You should get some info to troubl= e shoot with.

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Mr Faber is= aware of the file, how to control ports, and made the
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 12: 6:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14EC37B9EF for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deimos@lewman.com) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 93C663D32; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A135BBF for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:06:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy X-Sender: deimos@lowrider.lewman.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > I don't know what you're talking about "merging into future 4.x builds". > 4.x is already much more stable than 3.x ever was..the bug-fixing has > already taken place during the development of the 4.0 branch. Not to start a massive flamewar here, but in my personal experience with multiple FreeBSD boxes in a live environment, I've found that 3.x is much more stable than the 4.x servers. I've gone so far as to revert the 4.x server back to 3.x. I'm going to revisit the issue when it becomes 4.1. -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | You are the only person to ever get this message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 12:19:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EEEA37B9EF for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 32140 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jun 2000 19:19:26 -0000 Received: from p3e9c350e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.156.53.14) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 19:19:26 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01938 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:42:39 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:42:39 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help : about ipnat rdr problem Message-ID: <20000629194239.X9883@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <001401bfe171$bd65e970$a60211ac@hef> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <001401bfe171$bd65e970$a60211ac@hef>; from mlist@mail2.cosco.com.cn on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:28:26AM +0800 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:28 +0800, He Feng(BJ) wrote: > > # cat /etc/ipnat.conf > > map ep0 172.17.2.0/24 -> 202.99.99.99/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 > rdr ep0 202.99.99.99/32 port 110 -> 172.17.2.229 port 110 tcp/udp ipnat rules are sensitive to the order they're specified in, IIRC. rdr usually has to be above map, and more concrete map (single hosts) has to be before general map (network) rules. And the above lines miss an icmp (i.e. w/o tcp/udp) map rule. > #ipnat -C > #ipnat -f /etc/ipnat.conf Don't know if this will hurt, but I stick with the "ipnat -CF -f $CFGFILE" I've seen in OpenBSD installations. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 12:31: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C2A37B5EA for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09322; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:30:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt052n3e.san.rr.com To: Doug Lee Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: snapshot --> make world: what happens to the yyyymmdd? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Doug Lee wrote: > Responding to a thread I read and already deleted... > > If I install a 4.0 snapshot, I understand it will print the snapshot date > as part of the OS version identification... but if I then cvsup and make > world, will the date stay the same, change, or vanish? Yes, but you can edit /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh to your heart's content. I put a mmdd code in SNAPDATE to distinguish my own builds from snapshots. HTH, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 12:33:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freemail.aecinfo.com (host-45.toronto.bricsnet.com [209.146.217.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206CB37B595 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitayai@bricsnet.com) Received: from itdept (host-102.toronto.bricsnet.com [209.146.217.102]) by freemail.aecinfo.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09134 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:33:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@bricsnet.com) From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: Subject: RE: Follow-up: XirCom Realport Cardbus Modem/Ethernet PC card Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:37:04 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20000629141646.D4517@pir.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG are there any plans to have it included in the near future? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Radcliffe Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:17 PM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Follow-up: XirCom Realport Cardbus Modem/Ethernet PC card Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe probably said: > Hi, folks... just following up to check on the status of support in > 4.0-STABLE for the ethernet portion of a XirCom Realport Cardbus > Modem/Ethernet PC card. Has the support managed to work its way in yet? Cardbus cards are not yet supported. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 12:42:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E266D37C03E for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 137kCI-0002bf-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:42:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:42:01 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Follow-up: XirCom Realport Cardbus Modem/Ethernet PC card Message-ID: <20000629154201.E4517@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000629141646.D4517@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mitayai@bricsnet.com on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 03:37:04PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please be polite and trim quoted text to a minium. Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe probably said: >> Cardbus cards are not yet supported. > are there any plans to have it included in the near future? As soon as the good people who are working on the code get it finished. The last timeframe I heard was a matter of months. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 12:44:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ktts.kharkov.ua (ktts.kharkov.ua [193.124.57.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF6237B75B for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET) Received: from Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET (greg@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET [193.124.57.81]) by ktts.kharkov.ua (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5TJesr26227 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:40:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from greg@localhost) by Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET (8.9.0/8.9.0) id WAA23031 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:40:49 +0300 (EEST) From: Gregory Edigaroff Message-Id: <200006291940.WAA23031@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET> Subject: buildworld fails in yacc To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:40:48 +0300 (EEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! The system was cvsuped today: that's how it happens: cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/read er.c /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c: In function `copy_text': /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:474: syntax error at null character /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:482: duplicate label `next_line' /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:483: `u_lineno' undeclared (first use in this fun ction) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:483: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:483: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:483: `u_line' undeclared (first use in this funct ion) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:483: `u_cptr' undeclared (first use in this funct ion) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:487: `depth' undeclared (first use in this functi on) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:595: syntax error before `static' /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:600: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:602: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:604: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:605: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:609: syntax error before `static' /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:627: `s_lineno' undeclared (first use in this fun ction) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:627: `s_line' undeclared (first use in this funct ion) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:627: `s_cptr' undeclared (first use in this funct ion) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:642: `n' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:666: `i' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:689: `s' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:738: `bp' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:744: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:748: syntax error before `static' /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:754: `name' undeclared (first use in this functio n) /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:757: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:763: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:766: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:770: syntax error before `static' /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:782: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c: At top level: /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:87: warning: `copy_union' used but never defined /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:97: warning: `get_literal' used but never defined /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc/reader.c:98: warning: `get_name' used but never defined *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/yacc. *** Error code 1 -- With best regards, Gregory Edigarov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 12:48:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C142537B75B for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09531; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:48:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:48:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt052n3e.san.rr.com To: Andy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Andy wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > I don't know what you're talking about "merging into future 4.x builds". > > 4.x is already much more stable than 3.x ever was..the bug-fixing has > > already taken place during the development of the 4.0 branch. > > Not to start a massive flamewar here, but in my personal > experience with multiple FreeBSD boxes in a live environment, I've found > that 3.x is much more stable than the 4.x servers. I've gone so far as to > revert the 4.x server back to 3.x. I'm going to revisit the issue when it > becomes 4.1. It's a pretty safe bet that your problems won't have been fixed if you didn't tell anyone about them. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 12:58:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D270B37C101 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from lerdesk (ler-desk.iadfw.net [206.66.13.18]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) with SMTP id e5TJw5j05831; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:58:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Larry Rosenman" To: "Doug Barton" , "Andy" Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:58:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have found in our ISP environment that the 4.x IP stack is MUCH more stable for heavy network stuff. As Doug says, if you haven't reported a bug, you can't expect it to be fixed. Larry Rosenman -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Doug Barton Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:48 PM To: Andy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Andy wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > I don't know what you're talking about "merging into future 4.x builds". > > 4.x is already much more stable than 3.x ever was..the bug-fixing has > > already taken place during the development of the 4.0 branch. > > Not to start a massive flamewar here, but in my personal > experience with multiple FreeBSD boxes in a live environment, I've found > that 3.x is much more stable than the 4.x servers. I've gone so far as to > revert the 4.x server back to 3.x. I'm going to revisit the issue when it > becomes 4.1. It's a pretty safe bet that your problems won't have been fixed if you didn't tell anyone about them. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 13: 6:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (user209-140-175-91.netcarrier.net [209.140.175.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B2D837C03E for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:06:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lint@satan.dyn.reject.org) Received: (qmail 13363 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jun 2000 20:06:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:06:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Lint^^ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: installation on Dell Precision 620 (AIC-7899) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, i apologize for previous threading. the problem is that the FreeBSD boot images (kern, mfsroot) do not see da0 and da1. this results in a 'disks not found' error in sysinstall. some background: the machine is a newly delivered Dell Precision 620. the scsi controller is an Adaptec AIC-7899, and there are two Quantum 10k RPM 17.4GB disks (specifically, Quantum model ATLAS10K2-TY184L) on it, as well as a tape backup drive (ARCHIVE Python 06240-XXX, Revision 8071). i had thought before that the issue may have something to do with RAID, so i've deleted the arrays that the machine shipped with and am just using the disks as standalone devices. i have also done a low-level format on each disk, as suggested in a previous message to freebsd-hardware. all this results in the same thing: the boot kernel detects the controller as ahc0, but fails to detect any disks. i decided to try booting a slackware 7 cdrom to see if it had similar problems (kernel version 2.2.13), and it sees everything without issue (tape, scsi controller, scsi disks). this also works when the disks are part of a RAID0 array, as defined in the utility shipped with the machine... for these reasons i've narrowed it down to the boot images. previous posts to freebsd-current have suggested that these controllers work fine under 4.0-STABLE, and at reduced capacity under 4.0-RELEASE. as another test, i booted the latest floppy images from the 20000626 5.0-STABLE branch, with the same result: controller found, disks not. does anyone else have this problem with the boot images, or is it just me? i am thinking that since linux 2.2.13 sees everything, the hardware configuration is ok... unless it has to be configured a specific way to jive with FreeBSD? i'm stumped... any insight is very very greatly appreciated. thank you. adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 13:16:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7D537B681 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:16:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e5TKGSP16798; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:16:28 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Doug Barton Cc: Andy , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . Message-ID: <20000629131627.T275@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug@gorean.org on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:48:06PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Doug Barton [000629 12:56] wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Andy wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > I don't know what you're talking about "merging into future 4.x builds". > > > 4.x is already much more stable than 3.x ever was..the bug-fixing has > > > already taken place during the development of the 4.0 branch. > > > > Not to start a massive flamewar here, but in my personal > > experience with multiple FreeBSD boxes in a live environment, I've found > > that 3.x is much more stable than the 4.x servers. I've gone so far as to > > revert the 4.x server back to 3.x. I'm going to revisit the issue when it > > becomes 4.1. > > It's a pretty safe bet that your problems won't have been fixed if > you didn't tell anyone about them. But it makes it so much less challenging for us developers working on our ESP abilities to diagnose these problems that we never hear about! ... or something. pfft, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 13:33:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6925A37C101 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:33:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA82646 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:33:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:33:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: RELENG_4 build from RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE broken due to getflags()? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm attempting to upgrade from RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE to RELENG_4 as of this morning, and the build is currently failing with the following: /data/fbsd-stable/src/libexec/ftpd/ftpd.c:2595: warning: variable `dirlist' might be clobbered by `longjmp' or `vfork' /data/fbsd-stable/src/libexec/ftpd/ftpd.c:2596: warning: variable `simple' might be clobbered by `longjmp' or `vfork' /data/fbsd-stable/src/libexec/ftpd/ftpd.c:2597: warning: variable `freeglob' might be clobbered by `longjmp' or `vfork' cc -O -pipe -DSETPROCTITLE -DSKEY -DLOGIN_CAP -DVIRTUAL_HOSTING -Wall -I/data/fbsd-stable/src/libexec/ftpd/../../contrib-crypto/telnet -DINET6 -Dmain=ls_main -I/data/fbsd-stable/src/libexec/ftpd/../../bin/ls -I/usr/obj/data/fbsd-stable/src/i386/usr/include -o ftpd ftpd.o ftpcmd.o logwtmp.o popen.o skey-stuff.o ls.o cmp.o print.o util.o -lskey -lmd -lcrypt -lutil -lpam ls.o: In function `display': ls.o(.text+0xbd2): undefined reference to `getflags' *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Any suggestions? Robert N M Watson robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: AF B5 5F FF A6 4A 79 37 ED 5F 55 E9 58 04 6A B1 TIS Labs at Network Associates, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 13:52: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4902537C29E; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:51:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA63421; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:51:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:51:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Christoph Sold Cc: Doug Lee , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: snapshot --> make world: what happens to the yyyymmdd? In-Reply-To: <395B4064.C114985C@i-clue.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Christoph Sold wrote: > > If I install a 4.0 snapshot, I understand it will print the snapshot date > > as part of the OS version identification... but if I then cvsup and make > > world, will the date stay the same, change, or vanish? > > It will change to the date you compiled the source, uname -a will show > the machine it was compiled on, along with the date and the tag. No, it will vanish. FreeBSD mollari.usc.edu 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Sun Jun 18 03:50:43 PDT 2000 kkenn@mollari.usc.edu:/usr/src2/sys/compile/MOLLARI i386 The 5.0-yyyymmdd-CURRENT (ditto for 4.0) only gets put there when you're installing a snapshot made from 'make release'. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 14:17:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF71537B730 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3F1137F07 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA90010; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:17:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.48359.50510.940339@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:17:27 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: gdb trace (finally) from dc19 problem. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x1e79c fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc000a400 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc8b5fe38 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc8b5fe68 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 173 (ifconfig) interrupt mask = none trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 3 2 done Uptime: 2m46s dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 1835040 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:304 304 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:304 #1 0xc018b9b4 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc034d5cf, howto=-938005120) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:554 #2 0xc02e660d in trap_fatal (frame=0xc8b5fdf8, eva=124828) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:924 #3 0xc02e62e5 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc8b5fdf8, usermode=0, eva=124828) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:817 #4 0xc02e5eaf in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1071972336, tf_es = -927662064, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1070041216, tf_esi = -1071093448, tf_ebp = -927596952, tf_isp = -927597020, tf_ebx = -938005120, tf_edx = -927596868, tf_ecx = -927597010, tf_eax = -1073729222, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1073699840, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66050, tf_esp = -1071859694, tf_ss = -1070041216}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:423 #5 0xc000a400 in ?? () #6 0xc019bbbe in soo_ioctl (fp=0xc0f05700, cmd=3223873848, data=0xc8b5febc "faith0", p=0xc8172d80) at ../../kern/sys_socket.c:140 #7 0xc0198dcb in ioctl (p=0xc8172d80, uap=0xc8b5ff80) at ../../sys/file.h:171 #8 0xc02e683e in syscall (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = -1077939600, tf_esi = 6, tf_ebp = -1077939600, tf_isp = -927596588, tf_ebx = -1077939640, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1077939624, tf_eax = 54, tf_trapno = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134532056, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp = -1077939708, ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1073 #9 0xc02d8846 in Xint0x80_syscall () #10 0x8049091 in ?? () #11 0x8048685 in ?? () #12 0x80480f9 in ?? () Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 14:23:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E54437B730 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 137kjo-000MCk-00; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:16:40 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 137kjn-000CWw-00; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:16:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:16:39 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More reports from the dc19 front. Message-ID: <20000629211639.C48373@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <14683.35748.643965.363053@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZJcv+A0YCCLh2VIg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14683.35748.643965.363053@trooper.velocet.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ZJcv+A0YCCLh2VIg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Gilbert wrote: > Unfortunately I can only add/subtract ports in 4 port > increments... but 16 ports does not crash with ifconfig -a and 20 > ports does. Would you please stop starting half a dozen new threads talking about the same problem? If you'd keep it all in one thread it would be easier to follow. thanks, --=20 Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D --ZJcv+A0YCCLh2VIg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: OQ0Tb81YVLgws2iXhNwibV0GWDGs4096 iQCVAwUBOVuupysPVtiZOS99AQE9LwP/XB5djon1L7pwPXs/Lq3uqQQaC0UZM87y 4varXqNbNCW+yT80mUtHit10/ctH6NJydbooKkrp/CdX1k0UCIVQdBjLBsXYmKs+ 4S3QijVTkt/wkpWk/LFiTLLYCCboN5ui964r676Nw0VOk4Rv0ivc67dxnjCaq0St yozIdE4LHvs= =NgQj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZJcv+A0YCCLh2VIg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 14:56:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B534837B730 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE23F137F1C; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA93520; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:56:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.50674.397643.327724@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:56:02 -0400 (EDT) To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <20000629125307.G46772@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <14683.24171.98558.24798@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629090749.J275@fw.wintelcom.net> <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net> <20000629125307.G46772@stat.Duke.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After much work with several people, I have nailed it down to haveing 20 dc ports and "options BRIDGE" in the kernel config. Both 20 ports (16 doesn't crash) and "options BRIDGE" are required to crash the kernel when ifconfig -a is typed. Both -STABLE and 4.0-RELEASE will crash, however (my earlier post was incorrect). Is there a problem with how bridging keeps track of interfaces? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 15:37:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grove.iup.edu (maple.grove.iup.edu [144.80.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFB637C1B1 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvjg@grove.iup.edu) Received: from grove.iup.edu ("port 4478"@bvjg.sgi.iup.edu [144.80.62.105]) by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #30978) with ESMTP id <01JR6OD5O4BE8ZDWPA@grove.iup.edu> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:37:04 EDT Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:33:23 -0400 From: Nader Subject: mergemaster To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <395BCEB3.EDB39F26@grove.iup.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, I installed a fresh FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE and cvsup to FReeBSD 4.0-STABLE like 2 months ago. Do I really need to update my /etc? i mean it's been online for 2 months with no problem. -nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 15:42: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D984937C1D3 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deimos@lewman.com) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0950D3D32; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045EA5BBF for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:41:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy X-Sender: deimos@lowrider.lewman.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > Not to start a massive flamewar here, but in my personal > > experience with multiple FreeBSD boxes in a live environment, I've found > > that 3.x is much more stable than the 4.x servers. I've gone so far as to > > revert the 4.x server back to 3.x. I'm going to revisit the issue when it > > becomes 4.1. > > It's a pretty safe bet that your problems won't have been fixed if > you didn't tell anyone about them. The problems have already been submitted by others, kernel panics after 3.4 --> 4.0 upgrades, netgear PCI nic flakiness, and possible data corruption with DMA enabled ATA/66 drives. I don't remember the PR's off the top of my head, but I don't see the point in re-submitting known PRs. The problems could be hardware/firmware incompatibility or true 4.x bugs. I know that when I tried to go to 4.x, the system was much less stable. Going back to 3.x allows me to run the boxes, so I'll stick with 3.x until 4.1 comes out. I'll try again then. I can't point to any one thing that "broke stuff". And honestly, I don't have the time to debug it. It didn't work, I went back to what worked. Is that so bad? -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | Philadelphia is not dull -- it just seems so because it is next to exciting Camden, New Jersey. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 16: 6:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A3637C216; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.9.2/8.8.7) with UUCP id AAA71503; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:05:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] (eccles [194.32.164.2]) by seagoon.gid.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA61647; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:44:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000626163623.A60970@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> References: <4.3.1.0.20000626095103.00ac5a70@pop.mindspring.com>; from john@zoner.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:06:03AM -0400 <4.3.1.0.20000626095103.00ac5a70@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:44:16 +0100 To: K.J.Bosschaart@tue.nl From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: 4.0-Stable boot hangs Cc: John Holland , ps@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 16:36 +0200 26/6/00, Karel J. Bosschaart wrote: >On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:06:03AM -0400, John Holland wrote: >> Sunday, I did a fresh cvsup of RELENG_4, made and installed world and a new >> kernel. The reboot hangs at the point the old kernel gets to the two ed* >> devices (old Thomas Conrad NE2000 NICs). Before this, the system was >> working perfectly. >> >> Did something break in the ed driver in the two months since I last built >> the system from source? >> >On 06/17 there was a change in sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c, which causes my ISA >NE2000 compatible to hang at boot time, just like in your case.[etc] "Me too" (on -current). This is actually a reversion: if_ed.c: >revision 1.170 >date: 1999/11/01 01:16:56; author: jmb; state: Exp; lines: +22 -18 > rearrange order of tests for NE1000, NE2000, and Linksys > cards. previous order caused computers with NE2000 cards > to hang during boot. Backing up to if_ed.c 1.180 fixes it here, and I can't immediately see how the 1.181 change alters things for Linksys (except possibly for timing). -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 16:19:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF61037B5D6 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:19:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id XAA00666; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:19:34 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id QAA20746; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:19:17 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id TAA12649; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:19:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14683.55669.468165.208753@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:19:17 -0700 (MST) To: Nader Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster In-Reply-To: <395BCEB3.EDB39F26@grove.iup.edu> References: <395BCEB3.EDB39F26@grove.iup.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, June 29, Nader wrote: ] > Hi guys, > I installed a fresh FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE and cvsup to FReeBSD 4.0-STABLE > like 2 months ago. > Do I really need to update my /etc? i mean it's been online for 2 months > with no problem. > updating /etc to reflect the date on which you cvsup'ed and built/installed -STABLE is generally a requirement(**). Either by hand or mergemaster. I recommend mergemaster. My $0.02. -Jr ** you could NOT do it, but if you run into problems and don't follow the "normal procedures" you may be SOL for help on this and other groups. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 16:36:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hellasnet.gr (mail.hellasnet.gr [212.54.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC1737C26B for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:36:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (ppp1.patr.hellasnet.gr [212.54.197.16]) by mail.hellasnet.gr (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20792; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:35:01 +0200 (GMT) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e5TMs8C47342; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:54:08 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:54:08 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . Message-ID: <20000630015408.C43130@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from deimos@lewman.com on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 03:06:41PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 03:06:41PM -0400, Andy wrote: > > Not to start a massive flamewar here, but in my personal experience with > multiple FreeBSD boxes in a live environment, I've found that 3.x is much > more stable than the 4.x servers. I've gone so far as to revert the 4.x > server back to 3.x. I'm going to revisit the issue when it becomes 4.1. It is only because I found a 3.4 installation cdrom more eaasily that I have installed a 3.x version on my home PC, after removing for the zillion'th time that Windows thing from my workstation at work. One of the things that strikes me as a major difference between 3.x and 4.x is that the latter seems to run more smoothly when I copy large amount of data from an IDE device to some other IDE device near by. The 4.x branch is definitely a lot more stable now than 3.x, IMHO. Not that 4.x never had any problems, since I recall trying a lot harder to get MySQL and PHP-4 on a 4.x installation to work properly. But that was a couple of weeks *before* the release of 4.0; I suspect than by now 4.x has become a lot better. I guess, I'll have to try it once more, and see if it works better now :-) -- Giorgos Keramidas < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr > Find my public pgp key at: finger://keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 16:48:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6177637C12F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelw@iprg.nokia.com) Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (darkstar.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.69]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-GLGS) with ESMTP id QAA26342 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-VIRSCAN) id QAA27140 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:48:35 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:48:35 -0700 Nokia Silicon Valley Email Exploit Scanner Received: from (brakescr.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.1.186]) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com SMTP/WTS (12.69) xma026236; Thu, 29 Jun 00 16:48:22 -0700 Message-ID: <395BE047.C8668F13@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:48:23 -0700 From: Michael Glenn Williams Organization: NOKIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: FAQ for env vars Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed 4.0 from CD, then cvsuped from 4.0 RELEASE and want to do first build. Each time I run make buildworld, some combination of the Makefile.inc1 env vars is wrong. Leaving them all to defaults and doing mkdir for the missing directory that stopped the build also doesn't work. Is there a FAQ or sample list of settings of the env vars and their interaction during the buildworld make, first time through? Tx! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 17: 0:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43A137B65C for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00417; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200006300000.RAA00417@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "Jun 29, 2000 12:38:15 pm" To: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bright@wintelcom.net (Alfred Perlstein), Freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >>>>> "Alfred" == Alfred Perlstein writes: > > Alfred> Using truss or gdb on ifconfig may help you find out which > Alfred> syscall is the culpret. > > Problem is that the system crashes before ifconfig -a completes, and > it would appear that the stack smashing that whatever syscall is > running does will bring down the kernel regardless of how I proceed. > > I was asking specifically if someone new the approximate code path > that ifconfig -a traversed since I was having trouble collecting this > data. > > I would assume that even if I knew what syscall was running that I'd > have to trace my way through a maze of function pointers before I got > my way clear. Here is the truss output of an ifconfig -a on an older system, but the kernel calls should be the same: (FreeBSD 3.2) syscall __sysctl(0xefbfd8c4,0x6,0x0,0xefbfd8c0,0x0,0x0) returns 0 (0x0) syscall readlink("/etc/malloc.conf",0xefbfd81c,63) errno 2 'No such file or directory' syscall mmap(0x0,4096,0x3,0x1002,-1,0x0) returns 671526912 (0x2806b000) syscall break(0x8079000) returns 0 (0x0) syscall break(0x807a000) returns 0 (0x0) syscall __sysctl(0xefbfd8c4,0x6,0x8079000,0xefbfd8c0,0x0,0x0) returns 0 (0x0) syscall socket(0x2,0x2,0x0) returns 3 (0x3) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMETRIC,0x80752f0) returns 0 (0x0) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMTU,0x80752f0) returns 0 (0x0) syscall fstat(1,0xefbfd528) returns 0 (0x0) syscall break(0x807e000) returns 0 (0x0) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMEDIA,0xefbfd7f8) returns 0 (0x0) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMEDIA,0xefbfd7f8) returns 0 (0x0) syscall close(3) returns 0 (0x0) syscall socket(0x2,0x2,0x0) returns 3 (0x3) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMETRIC,0x80752f0) returns 0 (0x0) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMTU,0x80752f0) returns 0 (0x0) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMEDIA,0xefbfd7f8) returns 0 (0x0) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMEDIA,0xefbfd7f8) returns 0 (0x0) syscall close(3) returns 0 (0x0) syscall socket(0x2,0x2,0x0) returns 3 (0x3) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMETRIC,0x80752f0) returns 0 (0x0) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMTU,0x80752f0) returns 0 (0x0) syscall ioctl(3,SIOCGIFMEDIA,0xefbfd7f8) errno 22 'Invalid argument' syscall close(3) returns 0 (0x0) syscall madvise(0x8079000,0x1000,0x5) returns 0 (0x0) de0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:c0:f0:04:2c:d4 media: autoselect (10base5/AUI) status: active supported media: autoselect 10base5/AUI 10base2/BNC 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP de1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 198.145.92.4 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 198.145.92.31 inet 198.145.92.17 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 198.145.92.17 ether 00:80:c8:3e:32:de media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 syscall write(1,0x807a000,677) returns 677 (0x2a5) syscall exit(0x0) process exit, rval = 0 -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 17: 6:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA93637C23B for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@earthlink.net) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip183.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.183]) by merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06626; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eogren@localhost) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5U06DM01269; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:06:13 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: Nick Slager Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld dying in libssh Message-ID: <20000629200613.A306@earthlink.net> References: <20000629181706.A81878@albury.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000629181706.A81878@albury.net.au>; from nicks@albury.net.au on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 06:17:06PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 06:17:06PM +1000, Nick Slager wrote: > My crypto supfile: > > *default host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_4 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > It doesn't look like that would give you -CURRENT crypto code. You should however replace all of this with cvs-crypto; this will get all of the crypto bits. I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that cvs-crypto will give you more than the below entries. It can't hurt to try at least :) Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 17: 8:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C0737C230 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:08:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e5U08KI23797; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:08:20 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: David Gilbert , Freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. Message-ID: <20000629170820.D275@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <14683.31607.612798.996185@trooper.velocet.net> <200006300000.RAA00417@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006300000.RAA00417@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 05:00:16PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Rodney W. Grimes [000629 17:00] wrote: > > >>>>> "Alfred" == Alfred Perlstein writes: > > > > Alfred> Using truss or gdb on ifconfig may help you find out which > > Alfred> syscall is the culpret. > > > > Problem is that the system crashes before ifconfig -a completes, and > > it would appear that the stack smashing that whatever syscall is > > running does will bring down the kernel regardless of how I proceed. Ok guys, the idea behind using truss was just this: > > Problem is that the system crashes before ifconfig -a completes, and Therefore I wanted to see on which syscall the system blew up. Showing me the truss output from a successful run doesn't help. :( The idea was that it would like this: truss output.. truss output.. truss output.. truss output.. panic -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 19:38:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9395B37B51A for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber@lunabase.org) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org ([63.200.244.110]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWY0085S4LL9P@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by praxis.lunabase.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05974; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:35:24 -0700 X-URL: http://www.lunabase.org/~faber Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:35:24 -0700 From: Ted Faber Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) In-reply-to: "Your message of Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:27:16 PDT." To: rsowders@usgs.gov Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <200006300235.TAA05974@praxis.lunabase.org> Organization: My Secret Broadcast Base on the Moon X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii rsowders@usgs.gov wrote (encoded in html): >You should try to connect with the -v switch and send the output to >the list. My first message on the topic included that output. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 iD8DBQE5XAdsaUz3f+Zf+XsRAs6tAKCzsvsMgPeggi9T6dBoRYB2F+KK+ACZAUNh 58IBi8NbdOLkjru2k/l/STw= =pzRM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 19:45: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B8337B6F1 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber@lunabase.org) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org ([63.200.244.110]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWY0015J4UOW9@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by praxis.lunabase.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06143 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:41:07 -0700 X-URL: http://www.lunabase.org/~faber Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:41:07 -0700 From: Ted Faber Subject: Re: OpenSSH X11 forwarding fails(!?) - resolved To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <200006300241.TAA06143@praxis.lunabase.org> Organization: My Secret Broadcast Base on the Moon X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've (finally) run this down. It is not an OpenSSH bug, nor a direct OpenSSH configuration error. The short answer is that you cannot reset the XAUTHORITY environment variable under OpenSSH and get X11 forwarding. Under the ssh-1.2.27 port it doesn't interfere. Why? OpenSSH creates its own authorization information and sets XAUTHORITY to point to it. My .bashrc was resetting it (a relic from some system where XAUTHORITY was not initialized) and causing a conflict. Just so it's in the mail archive where it might help someone: when you move to OpenSSH from ssh-1.2.27, check to make sure your environment doesn't reset XAUTHORITY. Thanks to the people who made suggestions. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 iD8DBQE5XAjDaUz3f+Zf+XsRApL5AKDB+1Fp/YG4so5eN+2rfyzoOkovcgCg6G6J qvjGCqmjWA/Ymk3u3LhDDhU= =EXhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 20:10:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE3D37C2E6; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from joshpaet (hutch-507.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.146]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA12065; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:09:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Lint^^" , , Subject: RE: installation on Dell Precision 620 (AIC-7899) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:02:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Lint^^ > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:06 PM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: installation on Dell Precision 620 (AIC-7899) > > > hello, i apologize for previous threading. > > the problem is that the FreeBSD boot images (kern, mfsroot) do not see da0 > and da1. this results in a 'disks not found' error in sysinstall. some > background: the machine is a newly delivered Dell Precision 620. the scsi > controller is an Adaptec AIC-7899, and there are two Quantum 10k RPM > 17.4GB disks (specifically, Quantum model ATLAS10K2-TY184L) on it, as well > as a tape backup drive (ARCHIVE Python 06240-XXX, Revision 8071). i had > thought before that the issue may have something to do with RAID, so i've > deleted the arrays that the machine shipped with and am just using the > disks as standalone devices. i have also done a low-level format on each > disk, as suggested in a previous message to freebsd-hardware. all this > results in the same thing: the boot kernel detects the controller as ahc0, > but fails to detect any disks. i decided to try booting a slackware 7 > cdrom to see if it had similar problems (kernel version 2.2.13), and it > sees everything without issue (tape, scsi controller, scsi disks). this > also works when the disks are part of a RAID0 array, as defined in the > utility shipped with the machine... for these reasons i've narrowed it > down to the boot images. previous posts to freebsd-current have suggested > that these controllers work fine under 4.0-STABLE, and at reduced capacity > under 4.0-RELEASE. as another test, i booted the latest floppy images from > the 20000626 5.0-STABLE branch, with the same result: controller found, > disks not. does anyone else have this problem with the boot images, or is > it just me? > I had some trouble getting 4.0 release to see a aic-7899 that was onboard a dell 2450 a while back, but only when it was in RAID mode. In SCSI mode it worked fine. We ended up sending it back anyways...couldn't get SMP to work. > i am thinking that since linux 2.2.13 sees everything, the hardware > configuration is ok... unless it has to be configured a specific way to > jive with FreeBSD? > > i'm stumped... any insight is very very greatly appreciated. thank you. > > adam > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 20:24: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AB337C312 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber@lunabase.org) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org ([63.200.244.110]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWY00DKC6O2DB@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by praxis.lunabase.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09333 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:20:11 -0700 X-URL: http://www.lunabase.org/~faber Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:20:11 -0700 From: Ted Faber Subject: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? To: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <200006300320.UAA09333@praxis.lunabase.org> Organization: My Secret Broadcast Base on the Moon X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The ssh-1.2.27 port has a program called ssh-askpass that would pop up an X window for you to type your ssh RSA password into. It was called from ssh-add when there was a DISPLAY set but no tty. It was handy to call from my window manager (which was started under ssh-agent) so that I could type my ssh password in right as I logged in. The OpenSSH man pages mention this capability of ssh-add, but there's no ssh-askpass in the source or installed by make {build,install}world and ssh-add doesn't create the window on its own. Is this program (or a replacement) available for OpenSSH? If not is there a compatible X program that I can use in its place? Right now I'm using the binary from the port, but this is obviously not a great solution. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 iD8DBQE5XBHraUz3f+Zf+XsRAt2dAKCHL7+65mDQYy4fNZ4MjFUofgLWNACg0+8h 0Wli6hjei9ugYdY+Z+SyN/4= =kc9S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 20:36:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8C037B68E for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber@lunabase.org) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org ([63.200.244.110]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWY001EH7BPT2@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praxis.lunabase.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by praxis.lunabase.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10337 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:34:23 -0700 X-URL: http://www.lunabase.org/~faber Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:34:23 -0700 From: Ted Faber Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? In-reply-to: "Your message of Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:20:11 PDT." <200006300320.UAA09333@praxis.lunabase.org> Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <200006300334.UAA10337@praxis.lunabase.org> Organization: My Secret Broadcast Base on the Moon X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ted Faber wrote: >Is this program (or a replacement) available for OpenSSH? If not is >there a compatible X program that I can use in its place? Sean O'Connell just pointed me at the copy of ssh-askpass in the ports collection. That's exactly what I needed. Thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 iD8DBQE5XBU/aUz3f+Zf+XsRArTzAKDOAa1C/I12sNQYu/rdbonOiW4xpACg1KMx O6DOAQRGqeFuVQCXSJ6gLKU= =CRYF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 20:36:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2204D37C318; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA36298; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:36:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Ted Faber Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? In-Reply-To: <200006300320.UAA09333@praxis.lunabase.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ted Faber wrote: > Is this program (or a replacement) available for OpenSSH? If not is > there a compatible X program that I can use in its place? the openssh-askpass port. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 20:59:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A48B37B748; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5U3xOY40312; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Ted Faber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ted Faber wrote: > > > Is this program (or a replacement) available for OpenSSH? If not is > > there a compatible X program that I can use in its place? > > the openssh-askpass port. I discovered you can swipe the ssh-askpass from an 1.2.2X install and use that too... not that askpass is that complex; it just prints it's output on stdout when you hit enter. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 22:31:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EF837B6D7 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15184; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:30:22 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:30:22 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: Ted Faber Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? In-Reply-To: <200006300320.UAA09333@praxis.lunabase.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ted Faber wrote: > Is this program (or a replacement) available for OpenSSH? If not is > there a compatible X program that I can use in its place? > > Right now I'm using the binary from the port, but this is obviously > not a great solution. /usr/ports/security/openssh-askpass /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 23:46:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A5E37B83F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:46:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA02228; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:46:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jason Fuller Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Jason Fuller wrote: > Well, this time it said it found the card (with full description 3COM > etherlink 3c509 etc) on ep0, then it started screaming about the eeprom on > ep0 and stuff. Then it said it was starting up and setting up hostname > and froze there. I have PNP OS turned off in the bios. (And because the > bootloader started working suddenly on me, I am finding it near impossible > to boot the GENERIC kernel again...at least not without risking not being > able to load the hacked again.) Using the visual userconfig widget, disable all device drivers that you don't have hardware for. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 23:56:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEDD37C322 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000630065616.JOPD6302.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:56:16 -0700 Message-ID: <395C44A2.2A01A5E5@home.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:56:34 -0700 From: Dolgan Reply-To: dolgan@linuxfan.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000627-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome compliance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a notification of success. If anyone else is having the problems I had (Sawfish being non-gnome compliant, extreme slowdowns), then make sure your .xinitrc *DOES NOT* look like this: gnome-session & sawfish or have sawfish in it. As soon as I deleted the sawfish line and only used the gnome-session line, then went into Control Center and set my WM to sawfish, restarted Gnome and let it load sawfish on its own, BAM! Everything works perfectly. It's ALWAYS simple. Always, always. =/ Now to get that ext2fs problem... I'm sure it's simple. ;) -- Dolgan icq@14444322 dolgan@linuxfan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 29 23:57:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from router.difi.de (router.difi.de [212.6.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB2037B724 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from max.difi.de (max [192.168.1.2]) by router.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01649 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:57:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from difi.de (edv1.difi.de [192.168.1.54]) by max.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19473 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:57:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Message-ID: <395C44E4.E0888D27@difi.de> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:57:40 +0200 From: Uwe Laverenz Organization: DIFI Dierk Filmer GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Andy, > experience with multiple FreeBSD boxes in a live environment, I've found > that 3.x is much more stable than the 4.x servers. I've gone so far as to > revert the 4.x server back to 3.x. I'm going to revisit the issue when it > becomes 4.1. Huh? I have similar experiences, but in my case it's exactly the opposite. Especially if FreeBSD runs as NFS-server, I would always prefer 4.x. Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 0:16:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D3137B724 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:16:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16693 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:16:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18432; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:16:36 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200006300716.RAA18432@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: International Crypto/ssh broked yet again by deletion of rsa_eay.c,v Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:16:36 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did a CVSUp of my CVS repository this morning (crypto from cvsup.dk, rest from cvsup.au) Installed a new machine from CD then did a make installworld. SSH busted _yet again_ with missing librsaref.a message. It looks like someone moved/deleted src/crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_eay.c, and I saw a message like this in the cvsup logs: Connected to cvsup.dk.freebsd.org Updating collection cvs-crypto/cvs Edit src/crypto/openssh/auth2.c,v Edit src/crypto/openssh/ssh.c,v Edit src/crypto/openssh/sshd.c,v Delete src/crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_eay.c,v Finished successfully but secure/lib/Makefile uses the existence of this file to decide wether or not to make/install librsaINTL.so. So this stub doesn't get installed so SSH fails. Arrrrrggghhhhh!!!!!! These fscking crypto problems are driving me Crazy!!! Can someone please fix secure/lib/Makefile!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 1: 9:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A4C37C3BB for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:09:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15150; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:09:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <395C55B6.5CD2F113@gorean.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:09:26 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0629 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andy wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > Not to start a massive flamewar here, but in my personal > > > experience with multiple FreeBSD boxes in a live environment, I've found > > > that 3.x is much more stable than the 4.x servers. I've gone so far as to > > > revert the 4.x server back to 3.x. I'm going to revisit the issue when it > > > becomes 4.1. > > > > It's a pretty safe bet that your problems won't have been fixed if > > you didn't tell anyone about them. > > The problems have already been submitted by others, Additional data always helps. > And honestly, I don't have the time to debug > it. It didn't work, I went back to what worked. Is that so bad? Nope, it's your life, spend the time whatever way feels right to you. However, I think most of us would appreciate it if you don't "knock" something you're not willing to put even the smallest amount of effort into improving. -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 1:36:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dwarf.demos.su (dwarf.demos.su [194.87.2.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8AD37C369 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from azher@dwarf.demos.su) Received: (from azher@localhost) by dwarf.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA47623; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:36:22 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from azher) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.6 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:36:22 +0400 (MSD) From: tolyar@mx.ru To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Some troubles with pident on 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After upgrading 3.4 to 4.0-STABLE pident (/usr/ports/security/pidentd) does not work as daemon (-b option), identd -b does'nt write errors, but simple exit and dont stay in memory. Pident work thru inetd, but only if uid =0. If i use identd -i -u2 -g2 (it work at 3.4) in inetd, then identd can't say for me uid of user. I don't know IDENT commands and check it thru sendmail :) If i use uid 0 smtp session will: > telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mycomputer_name ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:17:47 +0400 (MSD) helo qq 250 mycomputer_name Hello root@localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you quit 221 mycomputer_name closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. But if i use -u2 -g2 (as recommend in documentation or -u5 -g2 (kmem:kmem)) session will: > telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mycomputer_name ESMTP 8.9.3/8.9.3; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:23:01 +0400 (MSD) helo qq 250 mycomputer_name Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you quit 221 mycomputer_name closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. P.S. I tried it on 3 computers on old identd binaries (compiled on 3.4) and on new binaries (compiled on 4.0-STABLE). Also i try it on new computer where was only 4.0 (without upgrades), so please don't propose for me create new devices i know about /dev/MAKEDEV ;) -- Zherdev Anatoly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 2:43:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECD537C3CA for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:43:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5U9gM582341; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:42:22 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200006300942.e5U9gM582341@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: International Crypto/ssh broked yet again by deletion of rsa_eay.c,v In-Reply-To: <200006300716.RAA18432@lightning.itga.com.au> from Gregory Bond at "Jun 30, 2000 05:16:36 pm" To: gnb@itga.com.au (Gregory Bond) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:42:22 +0200 (SAT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just add src-crypto-rsa to your cvsup file. Look in /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/secure* to see how. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za > Did a CVSUp of my CVS repository this morning (crypto from cvsup.dk, rest from > cvsup.au) > > Installed a new machine from CD then did a make installworld. SSH busted _yet > again_ with missing librsaref.a message. > > It looks like someone moved/deleted src/crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_eay.c, > and I saw a message like this in the cvsup logs: > Connected to cvsup.dk.freebsd.org > Updating collection cvs-crypto/cvs > Edit src/crypto/openssh/auth2.c,v > Edit src/crypto/openssh/ssh.c,v > Edit src/crypto/openssh/sshd.c,v > Delete src/crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_eay.c,v > Finished successfully > > but secure/lib/Makefile uses the existence of this file to decide wether or not > to make/install librsaINTL.so. So this stub doesn't get installed so SSH > fails. > > Arrrrrggghhhhh!!!!!! These fscking crypto problems are driving me Crazy!!! > > Can someone please fix secure/lib/Makefile!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 2:54: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hpmail.centrum.cz (mail.centrum.cz [194.213.208.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AEE37C3A9 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:54:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from milan@centrum.cz) Received: from hpmail.centrum.cz ([194.213.208.72]:17170 "HELO mail.centrum.cz") by mail.centrum.cz with SMTP id ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:53:31 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:53:21 +0200 From: To: X-Mailer: Centrum Mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Subject: random resets Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20000630095344Z477410-19832+446@mail.centrum.cz> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i have installed freebsd-release 4.0 on this computer: abit bp6 mb (only 1 processor now(500mhz)) - RU bios, 128mb ram, udma/33. kernel compiling & stress tests was ok, but computer sometimes 'resets' (cca. one or more times a day)... no coredumps, etc... what can be a problem ? bad hardware or freebsd vs. hardware stuff ? i seems that linux (debian) & win98 was running OK. thanks milan Objevujte Internet s http://www.centrum.cz Zalo¾te si svuj mail na http://mail.centrum.cz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 3: 2:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.comnet.bg (ns.comnet.bg [212.5.158.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A650637B78E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Hristo@BGINFO.NET) Received: from BGINFO.NET (rojen.comnet.bg [212.5.158.12]) by ns.comnet.bg (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5UA3I921312; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:03:18 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <395C6F71.D75AFA56@BGINFO.NET> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:59:13 +0300 From: Hristo Grigorov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: milan@centrum.cz Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: random resets References: <20000630095344Z477410-19832+446@mail.centrum.cz> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------65B971B2FEF9B74628B42858" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------65B971B2FEF9B74628B42858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I want to confirm that I have exactly the same problem here! And I don't beleive it's hardware related... milan@centrum.cz wrote: > > i have installed freebsd-release 4.0 on this computer: > abit bp6 mb (only 1 processor now(500mhz)) - RU bios, > 128mb ram, udma/33. > > kernel compiling & stress tests was ok, but computer > sometimes 'resets' (cca. one or more times a day)... > no coredumps, etc... what can be a problem ? > bad hardware or freebsd vs. hardware stuff ? > i seems that linux (debian) & win98 was running OK. > > thanks > > milan > > Objevujte Internet s http://www.centrum.cz > Zalo¾te si svuj mail na http://mail.centrum.cz > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --------------65B971B2FEF9B74628B42858 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=koi8-r; name="Hristo.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Hristo Grigorov Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Hristo.vcf" begin:vcard n:Grigorov;Hristo tel;home:+359 56 685051 tel;work:+359 56 840644 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;Slaveikov 16-3-2;Burgas;;8000;BULGARIA version:2.1 email;internet:Hristo@BGINFO.NET title: note;quoted-printable:Occupation info might not be valid=0D=0Aalready! x-mozilla-cpt:;-15040 fn:Hristo Grigorov end:vcard --------------65B971B2FEF9B74628B42858-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 3:13:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.mail.ru (mx5.mail.ru [194.67.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A58437C19D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaroshenko@mail.ru) Received: from [212.96.98.39] (helo=[212.96.98.39]) by smtp4.mail.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 137xn1-00009o-00; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:12:55 +0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:12:48 +0400 (MSD) From: Jaroshenko Serge X-Sender: jaroshenko@freebsd.merlin.ru To: milan@centrum.cz Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: random resets In-Reply-To: <20000630095344Z477410-19832+446@mail.centrum.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cvsup it to 4.0-STABLE ! On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 milan@centrum.cz wrote: > i have installed freebsd-release 4.0 on this computer: > abit bp6 mb (only 1 processor now(500mhz)) - RU bios, > 128mb ram, udma/33. > > kernel compiling & stress tests was ok, but computer > sometimes 'resets' (cca. one or more times a day)... > no coredumps, etc... what can be a problem ? > bad hardware or freebsd vs. hardware stuff ? > i seems that linux (debian) & win98 was running OK. > > thanks > > milan > > Objevujte Internet s http://www.centrum.cz > Zalo¾te si svuj mail na http://mail.centrum.cz > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 3:14: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wat-border.sentex.ca (waterloo-hespler.sentex.ca [199.212.135.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F8537C47E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdtancsa@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by wat-border.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA58710; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:13:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mdtancsa@sentex.net) Received: (from mdtancsa@localhost) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) id GAA06871; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:13:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike D Tancsa Message-Id: <200006301013.GAA06871@granite.sentex.net> Subject: ppp,poptop (pptpd) and encryption To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:13:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone gotten the MS PTPTPd working with and encrypted data stream ? The docs make reference to replacing the PPP in order to get the encryption working (http://www.moretonbay.com/vpn/releases/HOWTO-PoPToP.txt) Does the FreeBSD version of pppd support such encryption ? ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 3:22:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3EC37B99D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 137xw5-000KhP-00; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:22:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:22:13 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Michael Glenn Williams Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: FAQ for env vars Message-ID: <20000630122213.A79521@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <395BE047.C8668F13@iprg.nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <395BE047.C8668F13@iprg.nokia.com>; from michaelw@iprg.nokia.com on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 04:48:23PM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu 2000-06-29 (16:48), Michael Glenn Williams wrote: > I installed 4.0 from CD, then cvsuped from 4.0 RELEASE and want to do > first build. Each time > I run make buildworld, some combination of the Makefile.inc1 env vars is > wrong. > Leaving them all to defaults and doing mkdir for the missing directory > that stopped the build > also doesn't work. Is there a FAQ or sample list of settings of the env > vars and their interaction during the buildworld make, first time > through? It's not likely to be your environment variables. Do you have a log of the buildworld failre? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 4:21:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895A337B59D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (v-ger [158.227.6.179]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA19967; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:20:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01334; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:59:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Message-ID: <395C7D81.25B4385B@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:59:13 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del Pais Vasco - Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: es-ES, es, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dolgan@linuxfan.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gnome compliance References: <395C44A2.2A01A5E5@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dolgan wrote: > > As soon as I deleted the sawfish line and only used the gnome-session > line, then went into Control Center and set my WM to sawfish, restarted > Gnome and let it load sawfish on its own, BAM! Everything works > perfectly. > The .xinitrc file should contain "exec gnome-session". Just FYI :-) -- JMA ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 4:30: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B543E37B97A for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: from fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7502D1EA; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:29:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <395C84B5.B39742AE@fernuni-hagen.de> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:29:57 +0200 From: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Organization: FernUni in Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, German/Germany, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable Subject: error message xl0: transmission error: 90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What can i do against the following messages (dmesg): xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 180 bytes they nag me since i used freebsd-3.0 but everything else seems to work ... Here is the full dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Wed Jun 28 11:46:35 CEST 2000 root@es-i2.fernuni-hagen.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ES-I2.smp Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (265.26-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x633 Stepping = 3 Features=0x80fbff real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) avail memory = 257863680 (251820K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0323000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 7.1 pci0: at 10.0 irq 16 xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xef00-0xef3f irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:0b:b0:a5 miibus0: on xl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: supplying EUI64: 00:60:08:ff:fe:0b:b0:a5 ahc0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfebfb000-0xfebfbfff irq 16 at device 14.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8682MB (17781520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8682MB (17781520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 180 bytes -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 4:42:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rizla.energy.it (rizla.energy.it [212.51.128.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0692237C46B for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from demanzano@playstos.com) Received: from sunshine (s39.mi.energy.it [212.51.129.102]) by rizla.energy.it (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA27634; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:42:09 +0200 Message-Id: <200006301142.NAA27634@rizla.energy.it> From: "Alessandro de Manzano" To: "F. Heinrichmeyer" , "freebsd-stable" Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:45:01 +0200 Reply-To: "Alessandro de Manzano" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: <395C84B5.B39742AE@fernuni-hagen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: error message xl0: transmission error: 90 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:29:57 +0200, F. Heinrichmeyer wrote: >xl0: transmission error: 90 >xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes >xl0: transmission error: 90 >xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 180 bytes > >they nag me since i used freebsd-3.0 but everything else seems to work I had this problems with my FBSD 3.4 machine, and they disappeard after I changed the ethernet patch cable. "netstat -i" reports some error on that interface ? Mine did it. just my _0.1 (yes, it's the Euro symbol :) ) Alessandro de Manzano Playstos - TIMA S.p.A. Corso Sempione 63 20149 Milano, Italy tel.: +39-023314153 fax: +39-02315678 email: demanzano@playstos.com http://www.playstos.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 5:25: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pobox.rwwa.com (pobox.rwwa.com [216.254.75.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C95337B8FF for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Received: from rwwa.com (spooky.rwwa.com [192.124.97.13]) by pobox.rwwa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA97676; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:29:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Message-Id: <200006301229.IAA97676@pobox.rwwa.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Max Khon Cc: Ted Faber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:30:22 +0700." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:19:09 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru said: :-/usr/ports/security/openssh-askpass Yes. Since Open SSH is part of the base system, shouldn't this *also* be there? Otherwise the switch from ssh to open ssh isn't transparent, as it should be. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 5:34:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2382137C4E6 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:34:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-79-95-73.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.73]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5UCY3i04949 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:34:03 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <395C93B5.69B64116@paradise.net.nz> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 00:33:57 +1200 From: Mark Ibell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: FreeBSD 3.5 now available for x86] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone know if Yahoo! are running 4.0-RELEASE or 4.0-STABLE? "Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Sergei Vyshenski wrote: > > >So FreeBSD has two stable branches? > >Which one is more stable among stable for i386? > >Say for use at a site that need reliable round-the-clock > >gatewaing, named and mail operation? > > > >Thanks in advance for any comment. > >Sergei > > Sergei, > FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE is meant as a support release for those still using > 3.x in production environments. It is highly recommended that all new > installations use FreeBSD 4.0 as it has more features and will be > supported by the project further into the future. 4.0 has been battle > tested by the folks at Yahoo! and is ready for mission critical > deployments. You'll be much happier in the long run if you install 4.0. > > Brandon D. Valentine > -- > bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu > "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 5:35:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE03237C525 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 137zyJ-000LGg-00; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:32:39 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:32:39 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Robert Withrow Cc: Max Khon , Ted Faber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? Message-ID: <20000630143239.A81727@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200006301229.IAA97676@pobox.rwwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006301229.IAA97676@pobox.rwwa.com>; from witr@rwwa.com on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 08:19:09AM -0400 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri 2000-06-30 (08:19), Robert Withrow wrote: > fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru said: > :-/usr/ports/security/openssh-askpass > > Yes. Since Open SSH is part of the base system, shouldn't this > *also* be there? Otherwise the switch from ssh to open ssh isn't > transparent, as it should be. Isn't it an X program? Where do we get the X headers during buildworld? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 5:49:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1634F37B8E5; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:49:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-79-95-26.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.26]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5UCnni10370; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:49:49 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <395C9767.3CB72C03@paradise.net.nz> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 00:49:43 +1200 From: Mark Ibell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, We have a FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (GENERIC kernel) box at work that has exhibitted some strange telnetd behaviour. For example, when you try to telnet in you get a login prompt straight away but after entering a password have to wait for exactly 150 seconds (2m30s) until the shell prompt is reached. Even more curiously, once logged in if you try to telnet (or ftp for that matter) out, a 75 second delay is experienced. This has happened a couple of times now and a reboot fixes the problem. DNS has been checked carefully (nslookup queries work fine), so I'm pretty sure it's not that. I've seen a couple of vague references to this problem but nothing quite so clearly defined. There is no problem on boot, so I can only guess the system gets itself into a state over time. Guess I'd better upgrade to 4.0-STABLE... Cheers, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 6: 7:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.udel.edu (math.udel.edu [128.175.16.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BF437B71A for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schwenk@math.udel.edu) Received: from math.udel.edu (sisyphus.math.udel.edu [128.175.16.167]) by math.udel.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03651; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:07:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <395C9B93.439B43A3@math.udel.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:07:31 -0400 From: Peter Schwenk Organization: University of Delaware X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, de, ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hristo Grigorov Cc: milan@centrum.cz, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: random resets References: <20000630095344Z477410-19832+446@mail.centrum.cz> <395C6F71.D75AFA56@BGINFO.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Neither of these complaints have anything to do with FreeBSD-STABLE, which is what this list is for. Please consider upgrading to 4.0-Stable. Read the Handbook sections on getting the stable code and the 'make world' process. Hristo Grigorov wrote: > I want to confirm that I have exactly the same problem here! > And I don't beleive it's hardware related... > > milan@centrum.cz wrote: > > > > i have installed freebsd-release 4.0 on this computer: > > abit bp6 mb (only 1 processor now(500mhz)) - RU bios, > > 128mb ram, udma/33. > > > > kernel compiling & stress tests was ok, but computer > > sometimes 'resets' (cca. one or more times a day)... > > no coredumps, etc... what can be a problem ? > > bad hardware or freebsd vs. hardware stuff ? > > i seems that linux (debian) & win98 was running OK. > > > > thanks > > > > milan -- PETER SCHWENK | Campus IT Associate 3 Department of Mathematical Sciences | University of Delaware schwenk@math.udel.edu | (302)831-0437 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 6:11: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (www.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [212.111.192.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EDF37B714 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jar@ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix, from userid 1122) id DECB82FA1A; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:10:52 +0300 (EEST) From: Yaroslav Halchinsky To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp,poptop (pptpd) and encryption In-Reply-To: <200006301013.GAA06871@granite.sentex.net> User-Agent: tin/1.4.2-20000205 ("Possession") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-STABLE (i386)) Message-Id: <20000630131052.DECB82FA1A@relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:10:52 +0300 (EEST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike D Tancsa wrote: > Has anyone gotten the MS PTPTPd working with and encrypted data stream ? > The docs make reference to replacing the PPP in order to get the > encryption working (http://www.moretonbay.com/vpn/releases/HOWTO-PoPToP.txt) > Does the FreeBSD version of pppd support such encryption ? Try mpd-netgraph from ports collection with recent version of 4.0-STABLE. -- Regards, Yaroslav Halchinsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 6:18: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D726E37B64F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:18:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA18031; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:17:16 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda18029; Fri Jun 30 06:17:14 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA50483; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdJ50481; Fri Jun 30 06:16:52 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.2/8.9.1) id e5UDGqe07295; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200006301316.e5UDGqe07295@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdlN7287; Fri Jun 30 06:16:16 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: tolyar@mx.ru Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some troubles with pident on 4.0-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:36:22 +0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:16:16 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , tolyar@mx.ru writes: > After upgrading 3.4 to 4.0-STABLE pident (/usr/ports/security/pidentd) does n > ot > work as daemon (-b option), identd -b does'nt write errors, but simple exit a > nd > dont stay in memory. > > Pident work thru inetd, but only if uid =0. If i use identd -i -u2 -g2 (it wo > rk > at 3.4) in inetd, then identd can't say for me uid of user. I don't know IDEN > T > commands and check it thru sendmail :) If i use uid 0 smtp session will: Use the auth service built into 4.0's inetd: auth stream tcp wait root internal auth -d foobar -rgo UNIX Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 6:23:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB44E37B79C for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA68554; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:21:14 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:21:14 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: Robert Withrow Cc: Ted Faber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? In-Reply-To: <200006301229.IAA97676@pobox.rwwa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Robert Withrow wrote: > fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru said: > :-/usr/ports/security/openssh-askpass > > Yes. Since Open SSH is part of the base system, shouldn't this > *also* be there? Otherwise the switch from ssh to open ssh isn't > transparent, as it should be. we might not have X when building world OpenBSD seems to have X in their source tree so they can build ssh-askpass when building world (don't know exactly though) /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 6:47:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.comnet.bg (ns.comnet.bg [212.5.158.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF95A37B66F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:47:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Hristo@BGINFO.NET) Received: from BGINFO.NET (rojen.comnet.bg [212.5.158.12]) by ns.comnet.bg (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5UDmP935293; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:48:25 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <395CA434.AB444F46@BGINFO.NET> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:44:20 +0300 From: Hristo Grigorov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Schwenk Cc: milan@centrum.cz, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: random resets References: <20000630095344Z477410-19832+446@mail.centrum.cz> <395C6F71.D75AFA56@BGINFO.NET> <395C9B93.439B43A3@math.udel.edu> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9EC2232743829A80E3884A79" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9EC2232743829A80E3884A79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blah! It's 4.0-STABLE here fresh cvsuped and compiled and it still resets so I think it has something to do with FreeBSD-Stable OK ? Peter Schwenk wrote: > > Neither of these complaints have anything to do with FreeBSD-STABLE, > which is what this list is for. Please consider upgrading to > 4.0-Stable. Read the Handbook sections on getting the stable code and > the 'make world' process. > > Hristo Grigorov wrote: > > > I want to confirm that I have exactly the same problem here! > > And I don't beleive it's hardware related... > > > > milan@centrum.cz wrote: > > > > > > i have installed freebsd-release 4.0 on this computer: > > > abit bp6 mb (only 1 processor now(500mhz)) - RU bios, > > > 128mb ram, udma/33. > > > > > > kernel compiling & stress tests was ok, but computer > > > sometimes 'resets' (cca. one or more times a day)... > > > no coredumps, etc... what can be a problem ? > > > bad hardware or freebsd vs. hardware stuff ? > > > i seems that linux (debian) & win98 was running OK. > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > milan > > -- > PETER SCHWENK | Campus IT Associate 3 > Department of Mathematical Sciences | University of Delaware > schwenk@math.udel.edu | (302)831-0437 --------------9EC2232743829A80E3884A79 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=koi8-r; name="Hristo.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Hristo Grigorov Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Hristo.vcf" begin:vcard n:Grigorov;Hristo tel;home:+359 56 685051 tel;work:+359 56 840644 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;Slaveikov 16-3-2;Burgas;;8000;BULGARIA version:2.1 email;internet:Hristo@BGINFO.NET title: note;quoted-printable:Occupation info might not be valid=0D=0Aalready! x-mozilla-cpt:;-15040 fn:Hristo Grigorov end:vcard --------------9EC2232743829A80E3884A79-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 6:51:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95EA37B66F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:51:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8A5137F1A for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA80877; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:51:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14684.42449.103888.380937@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:51:13 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <200006300024.KAA01770@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <200006300024.KAA01770@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Solved. PR 19603. Probably should be MFC'd all over the place. I'm not 100% satisfied with the patch. I don't understand the operation of SYSCTL_STRUCT() enough to make it allocatate things dynamically --- it probably should. As evidenced by the printf(), it knows the number of interfaces it's got right before it bzero()'s the block to initialize it. The biggest insult was that BDG_MAX_PORTS was defined ... and used elsewhere in the code, but that a static 16 entries was allocated in the status struct (and not range checked anywhere). Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 6:53: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from denverweb.net (xenu.denverweb.net [199.45.153.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B0D37BA36 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bminazzi@denverweb.net) Received: from denverweb.net (rc-pm3-3-27.enetis.net [206.31.207.138]) by denverweb.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02134 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:58:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <395C99BE.8173A9FE@denverweb.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:59:42 +0000 From: "B. K. Minazzi" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: random resets References: <20000630095344Z477410-19832+446@mail.centrum.cz> <395C6F71.D75AFA56@BGINFO.NET> <395C9B93.439B43A3@math.udel.edu> <395CA434.AB444F46@BGINFO.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you running overclocked, or is it a true 500? Random reboots are frequently a hardware problem. CPU heat, #1 guess. If you have not opend the box in a while, check the CPU fan. IF your running overclocked, back it down to normal, and see if the problem goes away. Bkm. Hristo Grigorov wrote: > > Blah! > > It's 4.0-STABLE here fresh cvsuped and compiled and it still > resets so I think it has something to do with FreeBSD-Stable > > OK ? > > Peter Schwenk wrote: > > > > Neither of these complaints have anything to do with FreeBSD-STABLE, > > which is what this list is for. Please consider upgrading to > > 4.0-Stable. Read the Handbook sections on getting the stable code and > > the 'make world' process. > > > > Hristo Grigorov wrote: > > > > > I want to confirm that I have exactly the same problem here! > > > And I don't beleive it's hardware related... > > > > > > milan@centrum.cz wrote: > > > > > > > > i have installed freebsd-release 4.0 on this computer: > > > > abit bp6 mb (only 1 processor now(500mhz)) - RU bios, > > > > 128mb ram, udma/33. > > > > > > > > kernel compiling & stress tests was ok, but computer > > > > sometimes 'resets' (cca. one or more times a day)... > > > > no coredumps, etc... what can be a problem ? > > > > bad hardware or freebsd vs. hardware stuff ? > > > > i seems that linux (debian) & win98 was running OK. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > milan > > > > -- > > PETER SCHWENK | Campus IT Associate 3 > > Department of Mathematical Sciences | University of Delaware > > schwenk@math.udel.edu | (302)831-0437 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: Hristo.vcf > Hristo.vcf Type: VCard (text/x-vcard) > Encoding: 7bit > Description: Card for Hristo Grigorov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 7: 2:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775AA37BBAF for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA51240; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:03:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200006301403.QAA51240@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <14684.42449.103888.380937@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "Jun 30, 2000 09:51:13 am" To: David Gilbert Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The biggest insult was that BDG_MAX_PORTS was defined ... and used > elsewhere in the code, but that a static 16 entries was allocated in > the status struct (and not range checked anywhere). right... and i even looked at the code yesterday, because i remember there was some static set of ports, and when i found that BDG_MAX_PORTS was 128 i thought "ok, this is surely enough..." thanks for the fix. cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 7:31:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFE737B6B2 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4C0E8D5 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA94076; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:31:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14684.44858.800403.367130@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:31:22 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? In-Reply-To: <200006300320.UAA09333@praxis.lunabase.org> References: <200006300320.UAA09333@praxis.lunabase.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "TF" == Ted Faber writes: TF> Is this program (or a replacement) available for OpenSSH? If not is TF> there a compatible X program that I can use in its place? cd /usr/ports/security/openssh-askpass/ make install Done. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 7:34:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D65B37BA71 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id PAA06091; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:24:18 +0200 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id QAA11267; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:32:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C125690E.00500DDD ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:34:24 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: Hristo Grigorov Cc: Peter Schwenk , milan@centrum.cz, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:34:13 +0200 Subject: Re: random resets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm also using at home a BP6 with -Stable, and it's as stable as any rock you could find, so the FreeBSD code is certainly not the culprit for your resets. What I've noticed with my BP6 is that it's very sensitive to heat : I'm now forced to run it in an open case to keep it going (and my CPU's are just 333's), so the heat generated by the 500's (even if they are not overclocked) could be a more plausible explanation. Could you try and run your BP6 with its case open, to see if you get a better uptime ? TfH Hristo Grigorov on 30/06/2000 15:44:20 To: Peter Schwenk cc: milan@centrum.cz, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG(bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) Subject: Re: random resets Blah! It's 4.0-STABLE here fresh cvsuped and compiled and it still resets so I think it has something to do with FreeBSD-Stable OK ? [SNIP] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 7:47:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E0737BECF for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:47:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16326E8D2; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA94246; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:47:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14684.45799.999543.896593@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:47:03 -0400 (EDT) To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: tolyar@mx.ru, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some troubles with pident on 4.0-STABLE In-Reply-To: <200006301316.e5UDGqe07295@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: <200006301316.e5UDGqe07295@cwsys.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "CS" == Cy Schubert <- ITSD Open Systems Group > writes: CS> Use the auth service built into 4.0's inetd: CS> auth stream tcp wait root internal auth -d foobar CS> -rgo UNIX Speaking of built-in identd, has anyone gotten the built-in to work on 3.[45]-STABLE? I always get identd failures and need to use an external identd. All I did was uncomment the line in the inetd.conf file and comment out the old one for the external identd. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 7:48:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A8CD37BCB6 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 30 Jun 2000 15:48:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:48:32 +0100 From: David Malone To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: tolyar@mx.ru, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some troubles with pident on 4.0-STABLE Message-ID: <20000630154832.A46573@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200006301316.e5UDGqe07295@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <200006301316.e5UDGqe07295@cwsys.cwsent.com>; from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:16:16AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:16:16AM -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > Use the auth service built into 4.0's inetd: > > auth stream tcp wait root internal auth -d foobar > -rgo UNIX This was broken (last time I checked) if the ident query was spread over two packets. Unfortunately common programs like tcpd do split the request over two packtes, so it's not such a good idea to use it. See http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=16086 - the patch I've included there, based on Hajimu UMEMOTO patch, seems to work OK, but it might be a good idea to deactivate the itimer once you've finished reading. Maybe someone should take the PR from des, who is no longer inetd's maintainer and give it to green who wrote the inetd's ident code? David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 8:14:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05EA37BCB6 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deimos@lewman.com) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 84E823D36; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE105BC2; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy X-Sender: deimos@lowrider.lewman.org To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <395C55B6.5CD2F113@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > And honestly, I don't have the time to debug > > it. It didn't work, I went back to what worked. Is that so bad? > > Nope, it's your life, spend the time whatever way feels right to you. > However, I think most of us would appreciate it if you don't "knock" > something you're not willing to put even the smallest amount of effort > into improving. I was going to let this go, but not now. My opinion is just one data point on a whole range of points about stability. Just because I don't take the time to re-submit the same PR doesn't mean I don't help. I've offered to help with many things in the FreeBSD community, they just aren't code related. My coding skills aren't on par with anything written for FreeBSD today. I volunteered to call Aureal to get sound drivers, and offered Cameron Grant any sound board he wanted, if it would help him develop drivers for it. I called Aureal, and some of the other sound chip vendors, to get an SDK that an open source OS could use. I don't have US$10,000 to volunteer to a project so they can get an SDK, sorry. I've learned my lesson, any digression from the norm in BSD land is just bad. God forbid someone raise a flag that everything isn't as smooth as is believed. Next time, I'll just keep my mouth shut. Jeez. -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | In Corning, Iowa, it's a misdemeanor for a man to ask his wife to ride in any motor vehicle. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 8:47:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cfdnet.me.tuns.ca (CFDnet.me.TUNS.Ca [134.190.50.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B7D37BB56 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbmail@cfdnet.me.tuns.ca) Received: from localhost (bbmail@localhost) by cfdnet.me.tuns.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21259; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:42:46 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from bbmail@cfdnet.me.tuns.ca) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:42:46 -0300 (ADT) From: Bryan Bursey To: Hristo Grigorov Cc: Peter Schwenk , milan@centrum.cz, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: random resets In-Reply-To: <395CA434.AB444F46@BGINFO.NET> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hristo: I have to disagree. I track -stable and rebuild every few days. Between rebuilds, my machine with similar hardware (ABit BP6, dual 366 Celerons, and 128MB RAM) run without any problems. You're going to need to eliminate the possibility of this being hardware related, or provide a more detailed description of the events surrounding a failure. Regards, Bryan On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Hristo Grigorov wrote: > Blah! > > It's 4.0-STABLE here fresh cvsuped and compiled and it still > resets so I think it has something to do with FreeBSD-Stable > > OK ? > > Peter Schwenk wrote: > > > > Neither of these complaints have anything to do with FreeBSD-STABLE, > > which is what this list is for. Please consider upgrading to > > 4.0-Stable. Read the Handbook sections on getting the stable code and > > the 'make world' process. > > > > Hristo Grigorov wrote: > > > > > I want to confirm that I have exactly the same problem here! > > > And I don't beleive it's hardware related... > > > > > > milan@centrum.cz wrote: > > > > > > > > i have installed freebsd-release 4.0 on this computer: > > > > abit bp6 mb (only 1 processor now(500mhz)) - RU bios, > > > > 128mb ram, udma/33. > > > > > > > > kernel compiling & stress tests was ok, but computer > > > > sometimes 'resets' (cca. one or more times a day)... > > > > no coredumps, etc... what can be a problem ? > > > > bad hardware or freebsd vs. hardware stuff ? > > > > i seems that linux (debian) & win98 was running OK. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > milan > > > > -- > > PETER SCHWENK | Campus IT Associate 3 > > Department of Mathematical Sciences | University of Delaware > > schwenk@math.udel.edu | (302)831-0437 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 8:48:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6F637BFE6; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5UFmFH74628; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:48:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Mark Ibell Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <395C9767.3CB72C03@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote: > We have a FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (GENERIC kernel) box at work that has > exhibitted some strange telnetd behaviour. For example, when you try to > telnet in you get a login prompt straight away but after entering a > password have to wait for exactly 150 seconds (2m30s) until the shell > prompt is reached. > > Even more curiously, once logged in if you try to telnet (or ftp for > that matter) out, a 75 second delay is experienced. This has happened a > couple of times now and a reboot fixes the problem. DNS has been checked > carefully (nslookup queries work fine), so I'm pretty sure it's not > that. Did you verify that reverse lookups were working properly? That's the point where it reverse-resolves the IP address that connected to get a hostname. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 9: 7:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from michaelvince.com (CPE-144-132-49-2.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A38F37B886 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enews@michaelvince.com) Received: (qmail 13368 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2000 15:45:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO purple) (192.168.1.34) by 192.168.1.33 with SMTP; 30 Jun 2000 15:45:29 -0000 Message-ID: <003f01bfe2aa$1263a0a0$2201a8c0@vic.bigpond.net.au> From: "Michael" To: , References: <20000630095344Z477410-19832+446@mail.centrum.cz> Subject: Re: random resets Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 01:44:25 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I went from 3.4 to 4.0 release I got random resets. It took me a while to figure out what it was, when I had a reread of the config kernel info in the handbook I noticed this # For older non-PCI systems, these are the lines to use: #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 Which is uncommented as most things things are in the generic kernel file. Since my pc was a K6-2 PCI motherboard (which I had recently upgraded to) I commented them out did a full recompile and I NEVER had a reset since. The ones you should be using are device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives If you do find this is your problem email me, because I would find it interesting to know :) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: random resets > i have installed freebsd-release 4.0 on this computer: > abit bp6 mb (only 1 processor now(500mhz)) - RU bios, > 128mb ram, udma/33. > > kernel compiling & stress tests was ok, but computer > sometimes 'resets' (cca. one or more times a day)... > no coredumps, etc... what can be a problem ? > bad hardware or freebsd vs. hardware stuff ? > i seems that linux (debian) & win98 was running OK. > > thanks > > milan > > Objevujte Internet s http://www.centrum.cz > Zalo¾te si svuj mail na http://mail.centrum.cz > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 9:15:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB34537B618 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19590; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <395CC7A3.BD6F37BF@gorean.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:15:31 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0629 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Daniel J. Zaccariello" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andy wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > And honestly, I don't have the time to debug > > > it. It didn't work, I went back to what worked. Is that so bad? > > > > Nope, it's your life, spend the time whatever way feels right to you. > > However, I think most of us would appreciate it if you don't "knock" > > something you're not willing to put even the smallest amount of effort > > into improving. > > I was going to let this go, but not now. My opinion is just one > data point on a whole range of points about stability. Just because I > don't take the time to re-submit the same PR doesn't mean I don't > help. But following up on a PR with data about your experience with the same problem might just give the developer working on that problem the extra "data point" they need to solve the problem. It might also help point out that what was thought to be a small problem is actually a much larger one. You think this is a small thing, but really I can't emphasize enough how important this is. > I've offered to help with many things in the FreeBSD community, > they just aren't code related. Nothing wrong with that either. Over the years I've contributed almost no C code to the project since usually the need in other areas was greater. > I've learned my lesson, any digression from the norm in BSD land > is just bad. God forbid someone raise a flag that everything isn't as > smooth as is believed. Next time, I'll just keep my mouth shut. Jeez. I think that you and Daniel are missing my point. There is plenty of room for people who just want to use FreeBSD. No one is condemning you for not _solving_ the problem. But we work very hard to make FreeBSD the best we can, so it's very frustrating to us when someone sits "on the outside" and says in effect, "I don't have time to do even the smallest thing to help you make it better, but I do have time to criticize." Perhaps you thought I was being sarcastic when I said that it's your life and you should spend the time however you want to. I wasn't... I really believe that. Most of my effort on the project has been toward making it easier for people to "just use" freebsd, so I'm down with that too. It's the middle ground of "criticize, but don't help" that makes me nutso, but that's just me. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 9:32:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from michaelvince.com (CPE-144-132-49-2.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.49.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E93237B883 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enews@michaelvince.com) Received: (qmail 14081 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2000 16:19:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO purple) (192.168.1.34) by 192.168.1.33 with SMTP; 30 Jun 2000 16:19:24 -0000 Message-ID: <009f01bfe2ae$cf88d020$2201a8c0@vic.bigpond.net.au> From: "Michael" To: "Jason Fuller" , References: Subject: Re: Ethernet card Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 02:18:21 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I went from 4.0 release (where everything worked fine) to 4.0 stable my ep0 seemed to cause the pc to lockup at boot when probeing for hardware. It stats in the freebsd complete book that the ep0 is bugy and can cause the PC to lockup on hardware probes. I have 3 ethernet cards in my system a (3com 905b ep0 0x210-0x21f irq 3 isa) (xl0pci) and a (winbond NE2000 ed0 irc 5 0x360 isa) The way I fixed the problem was pulled I pulled out the ed0 NE2000 and placed one of those realtek ne2000's (pci) that I happend to have lieing around. Even though theoretically it should of been the ep0 that was causing the lockups since the generic kernel detected and used the ep0 fine I figured it was the way the hardware was being probed or somehow the ed0 was conflicting. I did download the 3com softset program to configure the hardware address's but they didnt seem to stick. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Fuller" To: Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 9:39 PM Subject: Ethernet card > I just did an upgrade from 3.x-stable to 4-stable. The whole process went > over very well, and everything in my system works great, except my 3Com > ethernet card (which worked just fine before the upgrade). This kinda > makes a frantic time for me, since this is my main sever AND gateway to my > network. I have been looking through the archives for this list and not > finding anything that resolves my problem here. I have tried everything I > can think of, including making the ep0 setup in the kernel match exactly > what it had been for 3.x. The message I am getting is: > ifconfig: interface ep0 does not exist > > my rc.conf on this says: > > network_interfaces="ep0 lo0 tun0" # List of network interfaces (lo0 is > loopback). > ifconfig_ep0="inet 206.114.39.193 netmask 255.255.255.240" > ifconfig_ep0_alias0="inet 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > Also, get messages: > ad1: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# xxxxxx retrying > etc. > > Any suggestions? > > Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! -- http://www.cauce.org > > VirusScan Detected Windows: (A)bort, (D)elete, (F)ormat C: > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 10: 3:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056B137C349 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@search.sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7BB60DAFF; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61887DAFE for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:58:42 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make installworld to a different dir? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to make installworld to some other directory than the actual system? Something like: make installworld ROOT=/usr/test Thanks, --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 10:43:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683BD37C003 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F04A61C65; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:43:26 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Mark Ibell Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: FreeBSD 3.5 now available for x86] Message-ID: <20000630134326.J18942@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <395C93B5.69B64116@paradise.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <395C93B5.69B64116@paradise.net.nz>; from marki@paradise.net.nz on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:33:57AM +1200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:33:57AM +1200, Mark Ibell wrote: > Anyone know if Yahoo! are running 4.0-RELEASE or 4.0-STABLE? For all intents and purposes 4.0-YAHOO, which is a subset of 4.0-STABLE :-> -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 10:55:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wysoft.tzo.com (c481444-a.bremtn1.wa.home.com [24.12.235.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B43737C0A6 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wysoft@wysoft.tzo.com) Received: (from wysoft@localhost) by wysoft.tzo.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5UHqSf20201; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:52:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Wyman Message-Id: <200006301752.e5UHqSf20201@wysoft.tzo.com> To: Hristo@BGINFO.NET, Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Subject: Re: random resets Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, milan@centrum.cz, schwenk@math.udel.edu In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As opposed to opening the case, sometimes we can eliminate heat by adding very fast fans at both ends of the case. Most people simply have a power supply fan, but a large fan in the front introducing cool outside air into the system will force any warm air outside/. A good simple guide for improving airflow inside your system can be found at: http://www.desernet.com/ccc/cccfce.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 11:15:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4736237B76D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA06888 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:15:39 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Should we MFC building modules with kernel rather than world Message-ID: <20000630111539.A6718@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Should the current method of building modules with the kernel rather than the world in 5-CURRENT be merged into 4-STABLE for 4.1-RELEASE? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 11:16:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480A437C33A; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07840; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:16:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200006301816.LAA07840@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <395C9767.3CB72C03@paradise.net.nz> from Mark Ibell at "Jul 1, 0 00:49:43 am" To: marki@paradise.net.nz (Mark Ibell) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:16:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > We have a FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (GENERIC kernel) box at work that has > exhibitted some strange telnetd behaviour. For example, when you try > to telnet in you get a login prompt straight away but after entering a > password have to wait for exactly 150 seconds (2m30s) until the shell > prompt is reached. Sounds like you've enabled one of the networked authentication methods (NIS? Kerberos?) on the server, but don't actually have such services available. So, the server times out its query and defaults back to the password file. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 11:20: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D9F37C108 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:19:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07889; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:19:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200006301819.LAA07889@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <14684.42449.103888.380937@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "Jun 30, 0 09:51:13 am" To: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:19:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > I'm not 100% satisfied with the patch. I don't understand the > operation of SYSCTL_STRUCT() enough to make it allocatate things > dynamically --- it probably should. As evidenced by the printf(), it > knows the number of interfaces it's got right before it bzero()'s the > block to initialize it. > > The biggest insult was that BDG_MAX_PORTS was defined ... and used > elsewhere in the code, but that a static 16 entries was allocated in > the status struct (and not range checked anywhere). And just to preach to the converted, how long do you think it would have taken you to get that fixed if you were running Solaris? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 11:39:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horizon.barak-online.net (horizon.barak.net.il [206.49.94.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97D037BCB7 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bk532@iname.com) Received: from localhost.local.net (pop09-1-ras1-p174.barak.net.il [212.150.8.174]) by horizon.barak-online.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11793 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:38:48 +0300 (IDT) Received: from iname.com (localhost.local.net [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.local.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01555 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:17:40 +0300 (IDT) (envelope-from bk532@iname.com) Message-ID: <395BAEDF.CDCC2356@iname.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:17:35 +0300 From: Boris Karnaukh Organization: Private person X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move References: <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <200006270255.TAA16879@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > > In article <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net>, > Francisco Reyes wrote: > > > And this is why it is best to always send the output of cvsup to > > a file. I like the graphic interface, but until it has loging > > capabilities (did I miss them somewhere?) it really doesn't make > > much sense to use it. > > That's what the little button with the diskette symbol near the > southeast corner is for. > But it doesn't let you choose log file name. -- Boris Karnaukh (mailto:bk532@iname.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 11:40: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (user209-140-175-91.netcarrier.net [209.140.175.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A31E537BC68 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lint@satan.reject.org) Received: (qmail 4902 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2000 18:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerberus) (lint@192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 30 Jun 2000 18:39:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lint^^ X-Sender: lint@cerberus To: Josh Paetzel Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: installation on Dell Precision 620 (AIC-7899) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > thanks for the reply josh... i just have one (dumb) question for > > you... how exactly should i go about disabling RAID mode and putting the > > disks into straight SCSI mode? i've tried un-defining any and all RAID > > arrays in the configuration tool that you can boot into off that 'dell > > resource cd', i also tried making each disk its own RAID0, and making a > > RAID0 consisting of both disks... also standalone.. no dice anywhere... am > > i messing something up there? > > > > adam > > > On the machine we had, the aic-7899 was configured in the BIOS settings. If > you tell it to be a SCSI controller then FBSD should pick it up at boot > time....no kernel mods needed. AFAIK the RAID mode of that chip is not > supported by FBSD and that is why you can't get it to find your devices. > > > > > apparently on the precision 620, you can't configure the 7899 in the BIOS (other than disable/enable)... but the ARO-1302 RAID controller (the offending part here) is positioned in an expansion slot, while the 7899 SCSI controller is embedded onto the motherboard. i can't remember if the SCSI cable connecting the drives is plugged into the RAID controller or not, but if they are, the solution seems to be pull them out of there, plug them directly into the SCSI ports on the motherboard, and optionally yank the ARO-1302 card until such time as a driver is implemented. regarding SMP, i seem to remember previous threads on this list saying that support for these SCSI chips _and_ SMP at the same time was backported into 4.0-STABLE sometime in april/may ?? adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 11:53:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id AF46637B5FB; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S In-Reply-To: <20000625090856.A96022@area51.v-wave.com> from Chris Wasser at "Jun 25, 2000 09:08:56 am" To: cwasser@v-wave.com (Chris Wasser) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000630185329.AF46637B5FB@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I know I've asked about this several times before, but have yet to get any real solid answer (also searched the mailing > list archives) .... I've tried several different brands of network cards under FreeBSD 4.0: > > 3Com 3c905C-TX 10/100 > Linksys LNE100TX > Kingston 21143 Tulip 10/100 > Netgear FA310TX 10/100 > > Whenever I use these cards @ 100base-T full duplex (although it's significantly less pronounced in the tulip) transferring a > 7GB tarball (my test file) across a switched full-dupe network, I always end up with: > > dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold > xl0: transmission error: 90 Alright, I'll explain this *again*. Most PCI bus master ethernet cards allow you to start transmitting data onto the wire before it's all been loaded into the FIFO memory. In other words, data starts moving from the host to the ethernet controller chip, and then the controller starts sending it out onto the wire after a certain number of bytes are available. The idea is that by the time those bytes have been sent, more data will have been transfered from the host. This is faster than having to DMA all of the data into the FIFO and then start transmission (plus it means you can have a smaller FIFO). The problem is that when you have a lot of bus master devices, or the system is just plain busy, you will get a condition where the data can't get from the host to the NIC fast enough to keep things flowing smoothly. This is the underrun condition that the driver is warning you about. To compensate, the driver increases the threshold, which means the chip will wait for more data to be loaded into the FIFO before starting transmission. If the underruns persist, the driver will eventually set the chip for "store and forward" mode, at which point you shouldn't see any more underruns. The driver starts out with the lowest possible threshold since this gives you the best performance, but if the host can't keep up, it has no choice but to back off. This is *not* a fatal error. The driver should just reset the chip and keep going. With that many bus master devices in the system, it's not unusual to see some transmit underruns. Don't be too concerned about them. It is not a "problem" that needs to be fixed. If the messages really annoy you, comment them out of the driver code. (I'm starting to regret putting them in there in the first place. Here I was thinking I was being nice to people by letting them know what the driver is doing, and everybody panics the moment they see them.) -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 12:28:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A45F37BB4F; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Received: from digitalconvergence.com (dallas [207.158.100.67]) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA51495; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:27:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com) Message-ID: <395CF4E5.2B452670@digitalconvergence.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:28:37 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Paul Cc: Chris Wasser , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strangeness with 4.0-S References: <20000630185329.AF46637B5FB@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Paul wrote: [deleted] > > (I'm starting to regret putting them in there in the first place. Here > I was thinking I was being nice to people by letting them know what the > driver is doing, and everybody panics the moment they see them.) Maybe prefix the warning with "info" or "warning" and/or some message like "Don't panic!" Also, would it help to see "increasing TX threshold to %d" in the message? Just a thought. -- Alan Edmonds Director of International Technology DigitalConvergence.:Com aedmonds@digitalconvergence.com Phone: +1-214-292-6040 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 12:39:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B66037BC31 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.90.12]) by mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000630193946.MULD381.mta01-svc.server.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:39:46 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01534; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:39:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:39:43 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Boris Karnaukh Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move Message-ID: <20000630203943.I232@parish> References: <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <200006270255.TAA16879@vashon.polstra.com> <395BAEDF.CDCC2356@iname.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <395BAEDF.CDCC2356@iname.com>; from bk532@iname.com on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:17:35PM +0300 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:17:35PM +0300, Boris Karnaukh wrote: > John Polstra wrote: > > > > In article <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net>, > > Francisco Reyes wrote: > > > > > And this is why it is best to always send the output of cvsup to > > > a file. I like the graphic interface, but until it has loging > > > capabilities (did I miss them somewhere?) it really doesn't make > > > much sense to use it. > > > > That's what the little button with the diskette symbol near the > > southeast corner is for. > > > But it doesn't let you choose log file name. > Why bother with the GUI? # cvsup -g -L2 your_sup_file | tee [-a] log_file_of_your_choice > -- > > Boris Karnaukh (mailto:bk532@iname.com) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 13:50:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319CB37C3C2 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.226]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.2) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:51:26 -0700 Message-ID: <395D0802.BAC5BCEF@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:50:10 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens Cc: Boris Karnaukh , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cleanup after softupdate move References: <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <200006270255.TAA16879@vashon.polstra.com> <395BAEDF.CDCC2356@iname.com> <20000630203943.I232@parish> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:17:35PM +0300, Boris Karnaukh wrote: > > John Polstra wrote: > > > > > > In article <200006270228.WAA27777@sanson.reyes.somos.net>, > > > Francisco Reyes wrote: > > > > > > > And this is why it is best to always send the output of cvsup to > > > > a file. I like the graphic interface, but until it has loging > > > > capabilities (did I miss them somewhere?) it really doesn't make > > > > much sense to use it. > > > > > > That's what the little button with the diskette symbol near the > > > southeast corner is for. > > > > > But it doesn't let you choose log file name. > > > > Why bother with the GUI? > > # cvsup -g -L2 your_sup_file | tee [-a] log_file_of_your_choice The gui provides more information and runs in comparable amounts of time on my P-II & III's. There were times that the gui even appeared to run faster. If you are on a really busy machine or older and slower system, the gui may place a larger burden on the system. If you want to see how much data was transfered, I found the gui provided that and the command line version didn't. I have a shell alias that will fire either off. I usually telnet to my server and don't use the gui version at all then. I only walk down to the server when it time to boot to single user mode and do the installworld sequence. If you are going to see 100's of changes, the scrollback buffer on the gui will probably be penalized and your tee and log file will have the advantage. Kent > > > -- > > > > Boris Karnaukh (mailto:bk532@iname.com) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, > am I entitled to my money back? > ________________________________________________________________ > FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ > mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 16: 1:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4407D37C2C5 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from joshpaet (hutch-251.hutchtel.net [206.10.67.179]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA09201; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:01:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Lint^^" Cc: Subject: RE: installation on Dell Precision 620 (AIC-7899) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:53:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Lint^^ [mailto:lint@satan.dyn.reject.org] > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 1:40 PM > To: Josh Paetzel > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: installation on Dell Precision 620 (AIC-7899) > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > > > > thanks for the reply josh... i just have one (dumb) question for > > > you... how exactly should i go about disabling RAID mode and > putting the > > > disks into straight SCSI mode? i've tried un-defining any and all RAID > > > arrays in the configuration tool that you can boot into off that 'dell > > > resource cd', i also tried making each disk its own RAID0, > and making a > > > RAID0 consisting of both disks... also standalone.. no dice > anywhere... am > > > i messing something up there? > > > > > > adam > > > > > On the machine we had, the aic-7899 was configured in the BIOS > settings. If > > you tell it to be a SCSI controller then FBSD should pick it up at boot > > time....no kernel mods needed. AFAIK the RAID mode of that chip is not > > supported by FBSD and that is why you can't get it to find your devices. > > > > > > > > > > > apparently on the precision 620, you can't configure the 7899 in the BIOS > (other than disable/enable)... but the ARO-1302 RAID controller (the > offending part here) is positioned in an expansion slot, while the 7899 > SCSI controller is embedded onto the motherboard. i can't remember if the > SCSI cable connecting the drives is plugged into the RAID controller or > not, but if they are, the solution seems to be pull them out of there, > plug them directly into the SCSI ports on the motherboard, and optionally > yank the ARO-1302 card until such time as a driver is > implemented. regarding SMP, i seem to remember previous threads on this > list saying that support for these SCSI chips _and_ SMP at the same time > was backported into 4.0-STABLE sometime in april/may ?? > > adam > yes, that should solve the problem. Josh > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 16: 4:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-151-197-209-150.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-197-209-150.bellatlantic.net [151.197.209.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20BF37BC4F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by adsl-151-197-209-150.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00959 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:04:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:04:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@adsl-151-197-209-150.bellatlantic.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: dc0 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-122793194-962406265=:760" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-122793194-962406265=:760 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, I'll try asking once more. I cannot find anything close to an answer in the archives, and never an answer from the mailing list. I have two Macronix pci ethernet cards: dc0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xe7021000-0xe70210ff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci0 dc1: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xe7020000-0xe70200ff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 dc0 is connected to my DSL modem, never a problem. dc1 is connected to a small LAN (just a win98 box via a 3com hub), so that we can share the internet connection here at home. dc1 goes braindead, and the only way to get the network back up is to do an ifconfig dc1 down/up. The time frame from a cold boot to braindeadness can be anywhere from five to twenty minutes. It's definitely not the hardware, I switched my config around so that dc1 connects to the internet and dc0 is on the local network. Invariably, the local network goes down no matter which nic I'm using and the connection to the DSL is solid as a rock. If I run tcpdump on the LAN nic, it stays up forever! I really don't think I should have to do this as a workaround. Has anyone had a similar problem? Any suggestions to try? Please? dmesg is attached. ========================================================== = Bryan D. 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charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e5UNp0u52197; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 02:51:00 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 02:51:00 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: David Miller Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make installworld to a different dir? Message-ID: <20000701025100.B51689@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dmiller@search.sparks.net on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 12:58:42PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 12:58:42PM -0400, David Miller wrote: > Is it possible to make installworld to some other directory than the > actual system? Something like: > > make installworld ROOT=/usr/test Yes, of course. In fact, that's what I customarily do. I don't call it /usr/test but I have some space under /tmp/test and usually do my installworlds like: # script /tmp/world.log # cd /usr/src # make buildworld # make installworld DESTDIR=/tmp/test and if this does not fail somewhere, then I do the real installworld. -- Giorgos Keramidas < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr > Find my public pgp key at: finger://keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 17: 5:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB29C37C58A; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-79-95-117.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.117]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6105Fi16237; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:05:16 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <395D320F.55D3043C@paradise.net.nz> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 11:49:35 +1200 From: Mark Ibell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote: > > > We have a FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (GENERIC kernel) box at work that has > > exhibitted some strange telnetd behaviour. For example, when you try to > > telnet in you get a login prompt straight away but after entering a > > password have to wait for exactly 150 seconds (2m30s) until the shell > > prompt is reached. > > > > Even more curiously, once logged in if you try to telnet (or ftp for > > that matter) out, a 75 second delay is experienced. This has happened a > > couple of times now and a reboot fixes the problem. DNS has been checked > > carefully (nslookup queries work fine), so I'm pretty sure it's not > > that. > > Did you verify that reverse lookups were working properly? That's the > point where it reverse-resolves the IP address that connected to get a > hostname. I did quite a bit of this sort of testing and unfortunately came up blank :( Thanks, Mark > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 17: 5:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019CB37C523; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-79-95-117.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.117]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6105Di00363; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:05:13 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <395D317A.D56E2AC@paradise.net.nz> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 11:47:06 +1200 From: Mark Ibell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE References: <395C9767.3CB72C03@paradise.net.nz> <20000630094706.F48683@stat.Duke.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean O'Connell wrote: > > Mark Ibell stated: > : Hi, > : > : We have a FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (GENERIC kernel) box at work that has > : exhibitted some strange telnetd behaviour. For example, when you try to > : telnet in you get a login prompt straight away but after entering a > : password have to wait for exactly 150 seconds (2m30s) until the shell > : prompt is reached. > : > : Even more curiously, once logged in if you try to telnet (or ftp for > : that matter) out, a 75 second delay is experienced. This has happened a > : couple of times now and a reboot fixes the problem. DNS has been checked > : carefully (nslookup queries work fine), so I'm pretty sure it's not > : that. > : > : I've seen a couple of vague references to this problem but nothing quite > : so clearly defined. There is no problem on boot, so I can only guess the > : system gets itself into a state over time. > : > : Guess I'd better upgrade to 4.0-STABLE... > > Yep. Going to stable is a good idea. If you aren't using IPv6, > you might want to pull that out of your kernel config > > #option INET6 > #pseudo-device gif > #pseudo-device faith > > there were some issues with gethostbyname and ip4to6 in RELEASE. hmmm - I might try that. > > This sounds like a dns problem though. Do reverse look ups > work? Telnet usually does a forward and a reverse lookup. Also, > make sure that this isn't an autonegotiation (speed and duplex) error > on the NIC. yep - forward and reverse lookups work for all machines involved. I don't think that it's a NIC negotiation problem either because ftp/http into the machine work fine. Curiously, even telnet localhost experiences the same delay! Thanks, Mark > > Good luck, > S > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU > Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 > Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 17:20:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pobox.rwwa.com (pobox.rwwa.com [216.254.75.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4466E37C457 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:20:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Received: from rwwa.com (spooky.rwwa.com [192.124.97.13]) by pobox.rwwa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA98604; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:30:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Message-Id: <200007010030.UAA98604@pobox.rwwa.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Max Khon , Ted Faber , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH - replacement for ssh-askpass? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:32:39 +0200." <20000630143239.A81727@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:19:42 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG nbm@mithrandr.moria.org said: :-Isn't it an X program? Where do we get the X headers during :-buildworld? Ok. How about we at least modify the ssh-add man page to make it clear what the user needs to do. I discovered this when my logins started hanging. My .xsession-error had 6 MB of failure messages in it! :-( Actually, I'm wondering why ssh-add didn't give up the first time the execlp failed to find a program? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 17:54:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0550037C3AC for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:54:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@rentul.net) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C5AB3D34; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AB35BC2; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Lutner X-Sender: sean@lowrider.lewman.org To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <200006301819.LAA07889@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > I'm not 100% satisfied with the patch. I don't understand the > > operation of SYSCTL_STRUCT() enough to make it allocatate things > > dynamically --- it probably should. As evidenced by the printf(), it > > knows the number of interfaces it's got right before it bzero()'s the > > block to initialize it. > > > > The biggest insult was that BDG_MAX_PORTS was defined ... and used > > elsewhere in the code, but that a static 16 entries was allocated in > > the status struct (and not range checked anywhere). > > And just to preach to the converted, how long do you think it would > have taken you to get that fixed if you were running Solaris? Depending on how you did it, ie - an "Emergency, Production server down" ticket with Sun, a matter of hours. > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 18: 7:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7723C37C43D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000701010711.DSIM6302.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:07:11 -0700 Message-ID: <395BF2CF.717761D3@home.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:07:27 -0700 From: Dolgan Reply-To: dolgan@linuxfan.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000627-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Delete key in Eterm? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This one should be easier than my last couple problems. Anyone know why my delete key doesn't work right when I use a text editor or BitchX in an X terminal (Eterm, rxvt, xterm, basically *term in X - BitchX, for example, is fine in a CONSOLE)? Instead of letting me hit backspace and delete the character next to it, I have to have the cursor ON the character to delete it. Shift+backspace works normally. Ideas? This has gotta be something stupid. =/ -- Dolgan icq@14444322 dolgan@linuxfan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 18:12: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grove.iup.edu (maple.grove.iup.edu [144.80.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A1137C36F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvjg@grove.iup.edu) Received: from grove.iup.edu ("port 2399"@bvjg.sgi.iup.edu [144.80.62.105]) by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #30978) with ESMTP id <01JR882HKA008ZDYTK@grove.iup.edu> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:11:55 EDT Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:08:13 -0400 From: Nader Subject: FreeBSD 4.1 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <395D447C.E66CA861@grove.iup.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, any idea when FreeBSD 4.1 will be released? what about 4.0-STABLE? when will it stop and move to 4.1-STABLE? as soon as 4.1 is out? later, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 18:24:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5970237B742; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e611ONC79813; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:24:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Mark Ibell Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <395D320F.55D3043C@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote: > Doug White wrote: > > > > On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Mark Ibell wrote: > > > > > We have a FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (GENERIC kernel) box at work that has > > > exhibitted some strange telnetd behaviour. For example, when you try to > > > telnet in you get a login prompt straight away but after entering a > > > password have to wait for exactly 150 seconds (2m30s) until the shell > > > prompt is reached. > > > > > > Even more curiously, once logged in if you try to telnet (or ftp for > > > that matter) out, a 75 second delay is experienced. This has happened a > > > couple of times now and a reboot fixes the problem. DNS has been checked > > > carefully (nslookup queries work fine), so I'm pretty sure it's not > > > that. > > > > Did you verify that reverse lookups were working properly? That's the > > point where it reverse-resolves the IP address that connected to get a > > hostname. > > I did quite a bit of this sort of testing and unfortunately came up > blank :( Again, did you check *REVERSE* lookups? Try logging into one of the broken 'servers' and do 'host (client IP address' and see what you get. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 18:28: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF2137B85C; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09125; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:27:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007010127.SAA09125@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <395D317A.D56E2AC@paradise.net.nz> from Mark Ibell at "Jul 1, 0 11:47:06 am" To: marki@paradise.net.nz (Mark Ibell) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:27:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: sean@stat.Duke.EDU, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > Sean O'Connell wrote: >> This sounds like a dns problem though. Do reverse look ups >> work? Telnet usually does a forward and a reverse lookup. Also, >> make sure that this isn't an autonegotiation (speed and duplex) error >> on the NIC. How about ident? Some telnet daemons want to validate your connection by using ident. If yours does, and your client doesn't respond, it'll hang like you're seeing as it times out the attempt. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 19:54:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F5837BC9E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-79-95-49.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.49]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e612rti19437 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:53:55 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <395D5D39.6EA1B8FE@paradise.net.nz> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 14:53:45 +1200 From: Mark Ibell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It does appear to be a dns problem after all. After renaming resolv.conf to resolv.conf.bak the problem is cured, although only hosts in the hosts file can be looked up. The strange thing is that both the 'nslookup' & 'host' commands both appeared to retrieve the correct information from the dns server (for both forward and reverse lookups) on our network. The dns server could be a tad broken at it is running RedHat Linux. Another strange thing I discovered was that 'telnet localhost' caused nameserver queries, even though host.conf has the default 'hosts' then 'bind' order. This 'telnet localhost' took 75 seconds to even connect, all this when 'nslookup localhost' & 'nslookup 127.0.0.1' work fine. Oh well, ... Mark Ibell wrote: > > Hi, > > We have a FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (GENERIC kernel) box at work that has > exhibitted some strange telnetd behaviour. For example, when you try to > telnet in you get a login prompt straight away but after entering a > password have to wait for exactly 150 seconds (2m30s) until the shell > prompt is reached. > > Even more curiously, once logged in if you try to telnet (or ftp for > that matter) out, a 75 second delay is experienced. This has happened a > couple of times now and a reboot fixes the problem. DNS has been checked > carefully (nslookup queries work fine), so I'm pretty sure it's not > that. > > I've seen a couple of vague references to this problem but nothing quite > so clearly defined. There is no problem on boot, so I can only guess the > system gets itself into a state over time. > > Guess I'd better upgrade to 4.0-STABLE... > > Cheers, > Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 20:13:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E416C37B660 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deimos@lewman.com) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 798583D34; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AD05BC2 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy X-Sender: deimos@lowrider.lewman.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <395CC7A3.BD6F37BF@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > best we can, so it's very frustrating to us when someone sits "on the > outside" and says in effect, "I don't have time to do even the smallest > thing to help you make it better, but I do have time to criticize." I don't consider myself on the outside, perhaps the outer fringe. I've submitted PRs when I went from 1.x to 2.x, and through the ELF conversion, and from 2.x to 3.x, and saw that others have already submitted my bugs on the 3.x to 4.x path. I do what I can. At this point, I don't have the time to figure what when wrong, when 4.1 is released, I'll check it out. I'll submit the PRs then, if any. > too. It's the middle ground of "criticize, but don't help" that makes me > nutso, but that's just me. Just to end this thread, my final statement is: don't judge my entire past history with FreeBSD based on one reply about stability. I've been a fbsd user/admin/contributor for a long time. Those that have worked with me on ports, code, docs, and advocacy know I'm one of the biggest team players and BSD zealots you're ever going to meet. I'm sorry this attitude hasn't been prevalent throughout this conversation. -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | The surest protection against temptation is cowardice. -- Mark Twain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 20:33:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zinc.singnet.com.sg (smtp3.singnet.com.sg [165.21.7.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7344B37B76A for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:33:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twchan@singnet.com.sg) Received: from tns03432.singnet.com.sg (tns03432.singnet.com.sg [165.21.192.102]) by zinc.singnet.com.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11034 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:33:11 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:34:11 +0800 (SGT) From: Chan Tur Wei X-Sender: twchan@zaapth.twnet.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Bugfix for xfstt-1.1 port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Apologies if this is in the wrong discussion group... I think I fixed a bug in the xfstt server that's causing it to hang the X server at random, most usually when viewing things using Courier New-regular font. How should I proceed with this? The author of the code called realloc() but neglected to fix up some pointers to the data within hence causing merry SIGSEGV's at random. I suspect on other platforms their realloc() code doesn't shift locations if one is shrinking memory, but this is purely a hypothesis. Who should I mail to get the code fixed? Regards -T.W.Chan- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 20:56:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.va.home.com (ha1.rdc1.va.home.com [24.2.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2F837B5A7 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:56:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damascus@home.com) Received: from athena ([24.3.219.36]) by mail.rdc1.va.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000701035645.NSOV9417.mail.rdc1.va.home.com@athena> for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:56:45 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000630103332.00b6e2c0@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 00:01:03 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Carroll Kong Subject: IPFilter 3.4.6 on a FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE box Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys. I am running Ipfilter on a fbsd 3.4-release box with ipnat. After about 5 days or so, the box refuses all tcp connections. I am more willing to bet on various "noise" affects rather than any known problem, but I am curious if it was a known issue at all? (checked archives, nothing specific on this). I have seen very weird errors, such as sshd[532]: warning: can't get client address: Connection reset by peer sshd[532]: error: setsockopt IPTOS_LOWDELAY: Connection reset by peer sshd[532]: error: setsockopt TCP_NODELAY: Connection reset by peer sshd[532]: error: getpeername failed: Socket is not connected arplookup 128.11.86.107 failed: host is not on local network We are not on the 128 network either. Which is extremely odd. Does it seem like hardware issues? Bad nic? Bad ram? 64 megs of ram. Using two 3com ethernet 905Bs. Celeron 366 or so. incoming rules 0 @1 block in log quick from any to any with short 0 @2 block in log quick from any to any with opt lsrr 0 @3 block in log quick from any to any with opt ssrr 0 @4 pass in on lo0 from any to any 64 @5 block in log on xl0 from any to any 1 @6 pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to 63.86.70.80/28 port = 22 flags S/0xff keep state 0 @7 pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 keep state 0 @8 pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any port = 20 to any port > 1023 keep state 4 @9 block return-rst in log on xl0 proto tcp from any to any flags S/SA 0 @10 block return-icmp in log on xl0 proto udp from any to any outgoing rules 0 @1 pass out on lo0 from any to any 977 @2 block out log on xl0 from any to any 977 @3 pass out on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any keep state 0 @4 pass out on xl0 proto icmp from any to any keep state Do you guys see anything weird? pstat -T, netstat -m, all show up A.O.K. (nmbcluster at 4096, not even close to max usage). maxusers = 128 #pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter options IPFILTER #kernel ipfilter support options IPFILTER_LOG #ipfilter logging options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN options TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission of TCP RST options "ICMP_BANDLIM" options NMBCLUSTERS=4096 I did comment out the berkeley packet filter. Almost everything else is the same, these are the only interesting kernel switches. It only runs sshd, and ipnat. If everything "seems" ok, I am going to assume hardware problems. I have used natd before, and never experienced problems. This is my first run with ipfilter in a production environment, and I am experiencing some issues. I am more likely to blame it on hardware over ipfilter in itself. So just curious if my configuration "looks" fishy or prone to some kind of "self inflicting" DoS. :) Box just randomly starts denying all TCP connects or rejecting them as if it was in a DoS. My guess is bad hardware causing a bad memory address write. I will try running natd on it later to see if there is a difference. Thanks in advance guys! -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 21:11:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sfo.geocast.com (mail.sfo.geocast.com [209.125.100.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152A237B60F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:11:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from castor@geocast.com) Received: from swamp.sfo.geocast.com ([209.125.100.45]) by mail.sfo.geocast.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4802; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:11:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Castor Fu" X-Sender: castor@swamp.sfo.geocast.com To: Bryan Liesner Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc0 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've seen some stability problems with a macronix 98715AEC-C based cards under NetBSD. It sometimes corrupts its receive buffers and the recovery code is not quite right. I suspect the problem here might be the same. Another issue is that the receive buffers must be aligned to 32-bits. I have no idea if the FreeBSD driver does this. The NetBSD one didn't until recently. > > Ok, I'll try asking once more. I cannot find anything close to an > answer in the archives, and never an answer from the mailing list. > > I have two Macronix pci ethernet cards: > > dc0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff > mem 0xe7021000-0xe70210ff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci0 > > dc1: port 0xcc00-0xccff > mem 0xe7020000-0xe70200ff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 > > dc0 is connected to my DSL modem, never a problem. dc1 is connected to > a small LAN (just a win98 box via a 3com hub), so that we can share > the internet connection here at home. > > dc1 goes braindead, and the only way to get the network back up is to > do an ifconfig dc1 down/up. The time frame from a cold boot to > braindeadness can be anywhere from five to twenty minutes. It's > definitely not the hardware, I switched my config around so that dc1 > connects to the internet and dc0 is on the local network. Invariably, > the local network goes down no matter which nic I'm using and the > connection to the DSL is solid as a rock. > > If I run tcpdump on the LAN nic, it stays up forever! I really don't > think I should have to do this as a workaround. > > Has anyone had a similar problem? Any suggestions to try? Please? > > dmesg is attached. > > > ========================================================== > = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = > = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = > = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = > ========================================================== > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 22:32:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FBA37B68C for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:32:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09706; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:32:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007010532.WAA09706@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] In-Reply-To: <395D5D39.6EA1B8FE@paradise.net.nz> from Mark Ibell at "Jul 1, 0 02:53:45 pm" To: marki@paradise.net.nz (Mark Ibell) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:32:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > It does appear to be a dns problem after all. After renaming > resolv.conf to resolv.conf.bak the problem is cured, although only > hosts in the hosts file can be looked up. The strange thing is that > both the 'nslookup' & 'host' commands both appeared to retrieve the > correct information from the dns server (for both forward and reverse > lookups) on our network. A week or two ago I posted about the circumstances in which host and nslookup can give you misleading results, and a program to demonstrate the fact. It has to do with how /etc/host.conf can be set to override what DNS servers will tell you, but host, dig and nslookup query the resolver directly, not using the gethostbyname(3) call, as an application would. In your case, if "hosts" is in your /etc/host.conf ahead of "bind", then you need to look for an entry in your /etc/hosts file that would result in namespace overloading. And, check my earlier mail in the archives... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 0: 0: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F7637B8E7 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dolgan2k@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.11.173.44]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000701065957.JJWU6302.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:59:57 -0700 Message-ID: <395C457C.1A5FD051@home.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:00:12 -0700 From: Dolgan Reply-To: dolgan@linuxfan.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000627-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delete key in Eterm? References: <395BF2CF.717761D3@home.com> <20000701084947.A49560@sr.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doesn't matter. I got it fixed. My last questions were relevant to Stable. I just forgot this time. But they're all fixed now. -- Dolgan icq@14444322 dolgan@linuxfan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 0: 7: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grove.iup.edu (maple.grove.iup.edu [144.80.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA7C37BFF0 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvjg@grove.iup.edu) Received: from grove.iup.edu ("port 1276"@bvjg.sgi.iup.edu [144.80.62.105]) by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #30978) with ESMTP id <01JR8KGL7KVA8ZDYWR@grove.iup.edu> for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 03:06:53 EDT Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 03:03:13 -0400 From: Nader Subject: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE To: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <395D97B1.66C1BA74@grove.iup.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, any idea when FreeBSD 4.1 will be released? what about 4.0-STABLE? when will it stop and move to 4.1-STABLE? as soon as 4.1 is out? later, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 0:48:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DE837BEB6 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from evileye (203-79-95-118.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.118]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e617m9i12650; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:48:10 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <001101bfe330$b138faa0$0101a8c0@rf.org> From: "Mark Ibell" To: Cc: References: <200007010532.WAA09706@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:47:15 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I understand what you were saying in your recent post (~23rd) but don't think that it completely explains my difficulties. The problem appears to be related to the absence of a domain extension. For example, on the machine in question (mars.econz.co.nz): # ftp localhost [pauses for 75 seconds] # ftp localhost.econz.co.nz [connects straight away] # ftp mars [pauses for 75 seconds] # ftp mars.econz.co.nz [connects straight away] # ftp shiva [pauses for 75 seconds] # ftp shiva.econz.co.nz [connects straight away] I think the reason incoming telnet fails is because of the fact that a 'login -h shiva -p' is spawned on localhost, where 'shiva' is of course without a domain extension. Here's my /etc/host.conf: # cat host.conf hosts resolv.conf # $FreeBSD: src/etc/host.conf,v 1.6 1999/08/27 23:23:41 peter Exp $ # First try the /etc/hosts file hosts # Now try the nameserver next. bind # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncomment the next line # nis Here's my /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost 172.16.1.73 mars.econz.co.nz mars Here's my /etc/resolv.conf: domain econz.co.nz nameserver 172.16.0.1 Nothing flash here at all which is why I am now puzzled again. I mean, it used to work I swear! ----- Original Message ----- From: Chad R. Larson To: Mark Ibell Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] > As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > > It does appear to be a dns problem after all. After renaming > > resolv.conf to resolv.conf.bak the problem is cured, although only > > hosts in the hosts file can be looked up. The strange thing is that > > both the 'nslookup' & 'host' commands both appeared to retrieve the > > correct information from the dns server (for both forward and reverse > > lookups) on our network. > > A week or two ago I posted about the circumstances in which host and > nslookup can give you misleading results, and a program to demonstrate > the fact. > > It has to do with how /etc/host.conf can be set to override what DNS > servers will tell you, but host, dig and nslookup query the resolver > directly, not using the gethostbyname(3) call, as an application > would. > > In your case, if "hosts" is in your /etc/host.conf ahead of "bind", > then you need to look for an entry in your /etc/hosts file that > would result in namespace overloading. > > And, check my earlier mail in the archives... > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 4: 6:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08BB37C087 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 04:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from stordatan.palle.se (c193.150.250.87.cm-upc.chello.se [193.150.250.87]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03794; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:06:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from partitur.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stordatan.palle.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA90317; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:06:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Message-ID: <395DD0A3.3324D13F@partitur.se> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 13:06:11 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nader Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.1 References: <395D447C.E66CA861@grove.iup.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nader wrote: > > Hi guys, > any idea when FreeBSD 4.1 will be released? Sorry, no info released on this topic, afaik. > what about 4.0-STABLE? when will it stop and move to 4.1-STABLE? as soon > as 4.1 is out? It is really 4-STABLE, only the releases use minor version numbers. Cheers, -- Palle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 4:38: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout2.silyn-tek.de (mout2.silyn-tek.de [194.25.165.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF15137BAC1 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 04:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nils@nightcastleproductions.org) Received: from [192.168.32.33] (helo=mx1.silyn-tek.de) by mout2.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 138Lar-0000D9-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 13:37:53 +0200 Received: from p3e9e972d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.158.151.45] helo=sundance.ncptiddische.net) by mx1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 138Lak-0007hq-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 13:37:47 +0200 Received: from ilka.ncptiddische.net (ilka.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by sundance.ncptiddische.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00216 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:39:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nils@nightcastleproductions.org) Received: from ilka.ncptiddische.net (ilka.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by ilka.ncptiddische.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA37456 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:40:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nils@nightcastleproductions.org) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:40:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Nils Holland X-Sender: nils@ilka.ncptiddische.net To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: NE2000 problem with new kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I just compiled and installed the latest 4.0-STABLE sources on some of my machines. Everything worked fine, except for one thing: On some older machine I have a NE2000 network card installed. I'm talking about the original ISA-thing from Novell. This card has always been working fine with the following line in the kernel configuration file: device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 9 iomem 0xd8000 In a new kernel I compiled (using sources I cvsupped yesterday) this line does not seem to work. The kernel compiles fine, but when trying to boot it it hangs at the point where it should recognize the network card. I tried several things, for instance re-jumpering my card in order to use different IRQs and ports, but it didn't work. Looking at the LINT file I saw that nothing has changed with the way of configuring my card. Also the UPDATING file in /usr/src didn't say anything useful. I'd be glad if somebody could suggest a solution. I don't expect the FreeBSD source code to be broken, but since I don't see something has gone wrong on my side either, I suppose that something is just not working the way it should. So any suggestions are welcome... Nils Holland, nils@nightcastleproductions.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 4:53:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E124D37B846 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 04:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 138LqC-00081a-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 12:53:44 +0100 Received: from modem-134.arkansas.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.55.134] helo=nohow.demon.co.uk) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 138LqC-0001vf-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 12:53:44 +0100 Received: from localhost (noway@localhost) by nohow.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02236; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:53:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:53:01 +0100 (BST) From: Jose Marques To: Sean Lutner Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Sean Lutner wrote: > > And just to preach to the converted, how long do you think it would > > have taken you to get that fixed if you were running Solaris? > > Depending on how you did it, ie - an "Emergency, Production server > down" ticket with Sun, a matter of hours. For which one pays how much? -- Jose Marques To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 4:58:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ddg.com (eunuch.ddg.com [216.30.58.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6281537B5A6 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 04:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from nomad.dataplex.net (24.27.13.152) by mail.ddg.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Sat, 1 Jul 2000 06:58:07 -0500 From: Richard Wackerbarth To: Palle Girgensohn Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.1 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 06:58:05 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.50] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <395D447C.E66CA861@grove.iup.edu> <395DD0A3.3324D13F@partitur.se> In-Reply-To: <395DD0A3.3324D13F@partitur.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00070106580502.24863@nomad.dataplex.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 01 Jul 2000, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > > what about 4.0-STABLE? when will it stop and move to 4.1-STABLE? as soon > > as 4.1 is out? > > It is really 4-STABLE, only the releases use minor version numbers. It's really FreeBSD 4. The "Stable" is redundant and confusing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 9:38:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B4237B6A0 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:38:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@rentul.net) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15C143D32; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CAC5BC2; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:38:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Lutner X-Sender: sean@lowrider.lewman.org To: Jose Marques Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Jose Marques wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Sean Lutner wrote: > > > > And just to preach to the converted, how long do you think it would > > > have taken you to get that fixed if you were running Solaris? > > > > Depending on how you did it, ie - an "Emergency, Production server > > down" ticket with Sun, a matter of hours. > > For which one pays how much? Yes, Sun Support is expensive. Yes, FreeBSD support is free. Yes, I'd rather pay and have my production machine back running in hours rather than wait out a mailing list for days. I don't mean for this to be a flame. I love FreeBSD. If I could have a few key software products I can get for Solaris for FreeBSD, my production envoronment would be FreeBSD. Knocking Solaris was out of line (imho). > > -- > Jose Marques > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 11:47:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE6037B90F for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:47:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@inwind.it) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (212.141.78.244) by relay2.inwind.it; 1 Jul 2000 20:47:09 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 19:49:20 GMT Message-ID: <20000701.19492000@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. To: Sean Lutner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 7/1/00, 5:38:31 PM, Sean Lutner wrote regarding Re:= =20 dc19 fructration.: > On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Jose Marques wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Sean Lutner wrote: > > > > > > And just to preach to the converted, how long do you think it wo= uld > > > > have taken you to get that fixed if you were running Solaris? > > > > > > Depending on how you did it, ie - an "Emergency, Production server= > > > down" ticket with Sun, a matter of hours. > > > > For which one pays how much? > Yes, Sun Support is expensive. Yes, FreeBSD support is free. Yes, I'd > rather pay and have my production machine back running in hours rather= > than wait out a mailing list for days. I don't mean for this to be a > flame. I love FreeBSD. If I could have a few key software products I=20 can > get for Solaris for FreeBSD, my production envoronment would be > FreeBSD. Knocking Solaris was out of line (imho). Dear Sean Lutner, I have only had a superficial look at this thread; yet I seem to=20 understand that the specific problem was solved (with)in a couple (!)=20 of days (NOT weeks). AFAIR, there is commercial FreeBSD support available somewhere=20 (FreeBSD Mall ? Others ?). If you will pay in order to have your=20 production machines back running in [a] few hours rather than in a=20 couple of days, you can hire excellent technicians, cant'you ? :-) Best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 12:18:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C29937B612 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (1Cust58.tnt2.beaverton.or.da.uu.net [63.21.215.58]) by merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18175; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 545C43149; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:17:28 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Nader Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.1 Message-ID: <20000701121728.A11321@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com References: <395D447C.E66CA861@grove.iup.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.4i In-Reply-To: <395D447C.E66CA861@grove.iup.edu>; from bvjg@grove.iup.edu on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 09:08:13PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 at 21:08:13 -0400, Nader wrote: > Hi guys, > any idea when FreeBSD 4.1 will be released? Around July 25th. > what about 4.0-STABLE? when will it stop and move to 4.1-STABLE? as > soon as 4.1 is out? Yes. - jim -- /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 12:40: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C062937B9D9 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA85274; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:39:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: Sean Lutner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <20000701.19492000@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: >AFAIR, there is commercial FreeBSD support available somewhere >(FreeBSD Mall ? Others ?). If you will pay in order to have your >production machines back running in [a] few hours rather than in a >couple of days, you can hire excellent technicians, cant'you ? :-) BSDi provides commercial FreeBSD support and you can purchase well supported hardware from Telenet Systems Solutions, a BSDi subsidiary. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 12:40: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDE137B845 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:39:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14540; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:39:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007011939.MAA14540@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: from Sean Lutner at "Jul 1, 0 12:38:31 pm" To: sean@rentul.net (Sean Lutner) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:39:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: noway@nohow.demon.co.uk, dgilbert@velocet.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, Sun Support is expensive. Yes, FreeBSD support is free. Yes, > I'd rather pay and have my production machine back running in hours > rather than wait out a mailing list for days. I don't mean for this > to be a flame. I love FreeBSD. If I could have a few key software > products I can get for Solaris for FreeBSD, my production envoronment > would be FreeBSD. Knocking Solaris was out of line (imho). As the guy that started this thread with an off-hand comment, let me say it wasn't intended so much as a knock at Solaris. I could have used HP-UX, or True64 just as easily. I believe, that in most cases, the support for FreeBSD, via these mailing lists, works better than the support that I pay for on my commercial systems. And, I should also point out, if I wanted to pay for emergency support on my FreeBSD systems, I can. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 13: 7:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAEF37B505 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26260; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:07:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karelj) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:06:12 +0200 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: Nils Holland Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NE2000 problem with new kernel Message-ID: <20000701220612.A26225@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> Reply-To: K.J.Bosschaart@tue.nl References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from nils@nightcastleproductions.org on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:40:26PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:40:26PM +0200, Nils Holland wrote: > Hi folks, > I just compiled and installed the latest 4.0-STABLE sources on some of my > machines. Everything worked fine, except for one thing: > > On some older machine I have a NE2000 network card installed. I'm talking > about the original ISA-thing from Novell. This card has always been > working fine with the following line in the kernel configuration file: > > device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 9 iomem 0xd8000 > > In a new kernel I compiled (using sources I cvsupped yesterday) this line > does not seem to work. The kernel compiles fine, but when trying to boot > it it hangs at the point where it should recognize the network card. > > I tried several things, for instance re-jumpering my card in order to use > different IRQs and ports, but it didn't work. Looking at the LINT file I > saw that nothing has changed with the way of configuring my card. Also the > UPDATING file in /usr/src didn't say anything useful. > > I'd be glad if somebody could suggest a solution. I don't expect the > FreeBSD source code to be broken, but since I don't see something has gone > wrong on my side either, I suppose that something is just not working the > way it should. So any suggestions are welcome... > I had the same problem, it turned out to be caused by the latest change (06/17) in sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c. As a quick workaround, you can replace this file by an older version and recompile your kernel. The committer of the latest change (Paul Saab) has sent me patches which make my NE2000 work again. I suppose these will be merged in the source tree eventually. Karel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 13:13:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E150E37B72F; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA02918; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Chan Tur Wei Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bugfix for xfstt-1.1 port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Chan Tur Wei wrote: > Apologies if this is in the wrong discussion group... For future reference, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org is the correct forum for ports-related issues. > I think I fixed a bug in > the xfstt server that's causing it to hang the X server at random, most > usually when viewing things using Courier New-regular font. How should I > proceed with this? You should try and talk to the author of the software, or failing that submit a patch to the FreeBSD port through the send-pr mechanism. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 13:43:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E8837B9FC for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: from istari.home.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA37135 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:43:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sjr@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com) Message-Id: <200007012043.QAA37135@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:43:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Subject: Perl problem in make world To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to do a make world (from 4.0-20000624-STABLE to a cvsup from about a day ago) and am getting the attached error. I've looked for the -current perl discussion, but can't seem to find it to see if it is the same problem.... Any ideas? Thanks, -SR awk -f /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/MKnames.awk /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include/Caps cat namehdr boolnames boolfnames numnames numfnames strnames strfnames nameftr > names.c cc -o make_keys -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include -Wall -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DNDEBUG -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DTERMIOS /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/make_keys.c cd /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps; make build-tools cc -static -O -pipe -I/usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps -DFIL=\"koi8-r2cp866\" -o koi8-r2cp866.mk /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps/mkscrfil.c cc -static -O -pipe -I/usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps -DFIL=\"iso-8859-1_to_cp437\" -o iso-8859-1_to_cp437.mk /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps/mkscrfil.c cc -static -O -pipe -I/usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps -DFIL=\"iso-8859-4_to_cp437\" -o iso-8859-4_to_cp437.mk /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps/mkscrfil.c cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl; make build-tools cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl && make build-tools Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) Invalid conversion in sprintf: "%v" at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 20. Use of uninitialized value at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 432. /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm: Config.pm not valid at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 432. *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 14:31:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB04C37BCFE for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:31:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14850; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:31:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007012131.OAA14850@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] In-Reply-To: <001101bfe330$b138faa0$0101a8c0@rf.org> from Mark Ibell at "Jul 1, 0 07:47:15 pm" To: marki@paradise.net.nz (Mark Ibell) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:31:00 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM962487060-14798-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ELM962487060-14798-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > The problem appears to be related to the absence of a domain extension. > For example, on the machine in question (mars.econz.co.nz): > > # ftp localhost > [pauses for 75 seconds] > > # ftp localhost.econz.co.nz > [connects straight away] If you compile the attached program, and use it to lookup "localhost", what do you get? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 --ELM962487060-14798-0_ Content-Type: application/x-shar Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=gethost.shar Content-Description: gethostbyname(3) command line wrapper Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # gethost.c # Makefile # echo x - gethost.c sed 's/^X//' >gethost.c << 'END-of-gethost.c' X/* $Id: gethost.c,v 1.1 2000/05/17 04:52:06 chad Exp $*/ X X/* X * Print the "hostent" information for every host whose name is X * specified on the command line. X */ X X#include X#include X#include /* for struct hostent */ X#include /* for AF_INET */ X#include /* for struct in_addr */ X#include /* for inet_ntoa() */ X X#define FALSE 0 X#define TRUE ~FALSE X Xmain(argc, argv) Xint argc; Xchar **argv; X{ X register char *ptr; X register struct hostent *hostptr; X int tcp_flag = FALSE; /* stream or dgram ? */ X X if (argc < 2) { X printf("Usage: %s hostname [...]\n", argv[0]); X exit(1); X } X X if (argc > 2) { /* use virtual circuit if more than one query */ X tcp_flag = TRUE; X sethostent(TRUE); X } X X while (--argc > 0) { X ptr = *++argv; X if ( (hostptr = gethostbyname(ptr)) == NULL) { X printf("gethostbyname error for host %s: ", ptr); X err_ret(h_errno); X continue; X } X printf("\nOfficial host name: %s\n", hostptr->h_name); X X /* go through the list of aliases */ X while ( (ptr = *(hostptr->h_aliases)) != NULL) { X printf(" alias: %s\n", ptr); X hostptr->h_aliases++; X } X X switch (hostptr->h_addrtype) { X case AF_INET: X pr_inet(hostptr->h_addr_list, hostptr->h_length); X break; X X default: X printf("unknown address type"); X break; X } X } X if (tcp_flag) X endhostent(); X} X X/* X * Go through a list of Internet addresses, X * printing each one in dotted-decimal notation. X */ X Xpr_inet(listptr, length) Xchar **listptr; Xint length; X{ X struct in_addr *ptr; X X while ( (ptr = (struct in_addr *) *listptr++) != NULL) X printf(" Internet address: %s\n", inet_ntoa(*ptr)); X} X X/* X * Display hostent error code X */ X Xerr_ret(err) Xint err; X{ X switch (err) { X case HOST_NOT_FOUND: X printf("Authoritative Answer Host not found\n"); X break; X case TRY_AGAIN: X printf("Non-Authoritive Host not found, or server fail\n"); X break; X case NO_RECOVERY: X printf("Non recoverable errors, FORMERR, REFUSED, NOTIMP\n"); X break; X case NO_DATA: X printf("Valid name, no data record of requested type\n"); X default: X printf("Unknown error code %d\n", err); X break; X } X} END-of-gethost.c echo x - Makefile sed 's/^X//' >Makefile << 'END-of-Makefile' X# Makefile for the host name lookup program X# $Id: Makefile,v 1.1 2000/05/17 04:52:06 chad Exp $ X XBINDIR = /usr/local/bin X Xgethost: gethost.o X $(CC) $(CFLAGS) gethost.o -o gethost X Xinstall: gethost X install -C -s gethost $(BINDIR) X X.c.o: X $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< END-of-Makefile exit --ELM962487060-14798-0_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 15:52:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2812D37B79E for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk) Received: from gotham.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk ([128.243.40.48] helo=unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk) by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 138W6D-0003wR-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 23:50:57 +0100 Received: from granby ([128.243.40.43] helo=granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk) by unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #2) id 138W7X-0006Sc-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 23:52:19 +0100 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:52:14 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch X-Sender: psyrawt@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ssh and librsaintl Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just installed freebsd 4.0 on a machine followed by cvsup'ing the sources and international secure collection. a make world later and ssh (of course) didn't work, reading the instructions with the error I go to install librsaintl. However it faisl with the following erroe: rsa_err.c:77: `RSA_F_RSA_NULL' undeclared here (not in a function) rsa_err.c:77: initializer element is not constant rsa_err.c:77: (near initialization for `RSA_str_functs[8].error') rsa_err.c:115: `RSA_R_INVALID_MESSAGE_LENGTH' undeclared here (not in a function) rsa_err.c:115: initializer element is not constant rsa_err.c:115: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[16].error') rsa_err.c:124: `RSA_R_RSA_OPERATIONS_NOT_SUPPORTED' undeclared here (not in a function) rsa_err.c:124: initializer element is not constant rsa_err.c:124: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[25].error') *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl/work. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl. I'd appreciate any help, cheers Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 15:58:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0060B37BD82 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:58:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@rentul.net) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB71F3D32; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68B85BC2; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:58:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Lutner X-Sender: sean@lowrider.lewman.org To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <20000701.19492000@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 7/1/00, 5:38:31 PM, Sean Lutner wrote regarding Re: > dc19 fructration.: > > > > On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Jose Marques wrote: > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Sean Lutner wrote: > > > > > > > > And just to preach to the converted, how long do you think it would > > > > > have taken you to get that fixed if you were running Solaris? > > > > > > > > Depending on how you did it, ie - an "Emergency, Production server > > > > down" ticket with Sun, a matter of hours. > > > > > > For which one pays how much? > > > Yes, Sun Support is expensive. Yes, FreeBSD support is free. Yes, I'd > > rather pay and have my production machine back running in hours rather > > than wait out a mailing list for days. I don't mean for this to be a > > flame. I love FreeBSD. If I could have a few key software products I > can > > get for Solaris for FreeBSD, my production envoronment would be > > FreeBSD. Knocking Solaris was out of line (imho). > > > > Dear Sean Lutner, > > I have only had a superficial look at this thread; yet I seem to > understand that the specific problem was solved (with)in a couple (!) > of days (NOT weeks). > > AFAIR, there is commercial FreeBSD support available somewhere > (FreeBSD Mall ? Others ?). If you will pay in order to have your > production machines back running in [a] few hours rather than in a > couple of days, you can hire excellent technicians, cant'you ? :-) > > Best regards, > Salvo If you go back and reread the thread, I didn't say weeks, I said days. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 16: 0:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from teapot16.domain4.bigpond.com (teapot16.domain4.bigpond.com [139.134.5.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C80E37B545 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Greg@fatcanary.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot16.domain4.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ha126783 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:55:07 +1000 Received: from WYBH-T-005-p-90-104.tmns.net.au ([203.54.90.104]) by mail4.bigpond.com (Claudes-Tanj-MailRouter V2.8a 7/635201); 02 Jul 2000 08:55:06 Received: from thefridge (the-fridge.gwork.org.au [192.168.0.2]) by the-toaster.gwork.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA00694; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:33:54 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from Greg@FatCanary.com.au) Message-ID: <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Reply-To: "Greg Work" From: "Greg Work" To: "Larry Rosenman" Cc: References: <200006280311.e5S3BWb28882@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:23:55 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey ya Larry Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with SIG's 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have been thrashing that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. The CPU / Motherboard / Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 days no problems. Now - no luck :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - i have no idea how to debug them :( FYI - System specs AMD K6-2 300 MHz Jetway 542-B Motherboard (AT) 64 meg PC-100 Intel i740 video card 4.3 gig Maxtor HDD (IDE) Generic NIC G. -------------------------------------- Greg Work Email: Greg@FatCanary.com.au -------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Rosenman" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:41 PM Subject: AMD K6-2 / 550 > Well, I'm back... > Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the 128MB memory. > > This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. > > Still have a problem with make world. > > HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can make worlds all day long > with out an error. > > Anyone got a good explanation for this? > > Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if that makes a difference. > > Larry > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 16: 1:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D928437BA4F for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:01:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@rentul.net) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDA513D32; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAD65BC2; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:02:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Lutner X-Sender: sean@lowrider.lewman.org To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: noway@nohow.demon.co.uk, dgilbert@velocet.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. In-Reply-To: <200007011939.MAA14540@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > Yes, Sun Support is expensive. Yes, FreeBSD support is free. Yes, > > I'd rather pay and have my production machine back running in hours > > rather than wait out a mailing list for days. I don't mean for this > > to be a flame. I love FreeBSD. If I could have a few key software > > products I can get for Solaris for FreeBSD, my production envoronment > > would be FreeBSD. Knocking Solaris was out of line (imho). > > As the guy that started this thread with an off-hand comment, let me > say it wasn't intended so much as a knock at Solaris. I could have > used HP-UX, or True64 just as easily. I believe, that in most > cases, the support for FreeBSD, via these mailing lists, works > better than the support that I pay for on my commercial systems. > > And, I should also point out, if I wanted to pay for emergency > support on my FreeBSD systems, I can. > > -crl And as the guy who responded, I didn't intend to knock FreeBSD or it's support. I'm well aware of the commercial support offered by BSDi, and telenet. Those are steps in a good direction. It's just that sometimes people will knock Solaris, HP-UX, Tru64, AIX etc etc, solely because they are commercial. I wasn't setting out to start a flame war, nor do I think you were, it was a discussion, this is what these lists are for afterall, aren't they? Cheers... > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 16:19: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DCA37B92D for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from evileye (203-79-95-38.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.95.38]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e61NImi08816; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:18:49 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <001501bfe3b2$b315d6e0$0101a8c0@rf.org> From: "Mark Ibell" To: Cc: References: <200007012131.OAA14850@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:17:40 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is the output I get: $ ./gethost localhost Official host name: localhost Internet address: 127.0.0.1 $ ./gethost mars Official host name: mars.econz.co.nz alias: mars Internet address: 172.16.1.73 $ ----- Original Message ----- From: Chad R. Larson To: Mark Ibell Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] > As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > > The problem appears to be related to the absence of a domain extension. > > For example, on the machine in question (mars.econz.co.nz): > > > > # ftp localhost > > [pauses for 75 seconds] > > > > # ftp localhost.econz.co.nz > > [connects straight away] > > If you compile the attached program, and use it to lookup > "localhost", what do you get? > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 16:19:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rjk191.rh.psu.edu (RJK191.rh.psu.edu [128.118.194.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A0837B83B for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:19:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ray@rjk191.rh.psu.edu) Received: (from ray@localhost) by rjk191.rh.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11872 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ray) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:18:57 -0400 From: Ray Kohler To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh and librsaintl Message-ID: <20000701191857.A11837@rjk191.rh.psu.edu> Reply-To: rjk191@psu.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 11:52:14PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 11:52:14PM +0100, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > I just installed freebsd 4.0 on a machine followed by cvsup'ing the > sources and international secure collection. a make world later and ssh > (of course) didn't work, reading the instructions with the error I go to > install librsaintl. However it faisl with the following erroe: > > rsa_err.c:77: `RSA_F_RSA_NULL' undeclared here (not in a function) > rsa_err.c:77: initializer element is not constant > rsa_err.c:77: (near initialization for `RSA_str_functs[8].error') > rsa_err.c:115: `RSA_R_INVALID_MESSAGE_LENGTH' undeclared here (not in a > function) > rsa_err.c:115: initializer element is not constant > rsa_err.c:115: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[16].error') > rsa_err.c:124: `RSA_R_RSA_OPERATIONS_NOT_SUPPORTED' undeclared here (not > in a function) > rsa_err.c:124: initializer element is not constant > rsa_err.c:124: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[25].error') > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/librsaintl. > I'd appreciate any help, cheers You need to do 'make depend' here before make. -- Ray Kohler FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison. -- Henry David Thoreau To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 16:44:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9683037BE07 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:44:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@inwind.it) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (212.141.78.160) by relay2.inwind.it; 2 Jul 2000 01:44:33 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 00:46:45 GMT Message-ID: <20000702.464500@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: dc19 fructration. To: Sean Lutner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Yes, Sun Support is expensive. Yes, FreeBSD support is free. Yes, = I'd > > > rather pay and have my production machine back running in hours ra= ther > > > than wait out a mailing list for days. I don't mean for this to be= a > > > flame. I love FreeBSD. If I could have a few key software products= I > > can > > > get for Solaris for FreeBSD, my production envoronment would be > > > FreeBSD. Knocking Solaris was out of line (imho). > > > > > > > > Dear Sean Lutner, > > > > I have only had a superficial look at this thread; yet I seem to > > understand that the specific problem was solved (with)in a couple (!= ) > > of days (NOT weeks). > > > > AFAIR, there is commercial FreeBSD support available somewhere > > (FreeBSD Mall ? Others ?). If you will pay in order to have your > > production machines back running in [a] few hours rather than in a > > couple of days, you can hire excellent technicians, cant'you ? :-) > > > > Best regards, > > Salvo > If you go back and reread the thread, I didn't say weeks, I said > days. Sorry, I should have been more explicit. =20 I wish I had specified the following points in more detail: 1) the free mailing list support was able to fix the problem in a=20 couple of days (not weeks: this is a general remark, NOT related to=20 what you said); this free support is often excellent; =20 2) in the final sentence, I indicated that one might solve=20 (particular/specific emergency) problems in a few hours rather than a=20 couple of days (days: what you had said) by hiring FreeBSD experts. I did not mean to criticize the mailing list support in the least,=20 either. I simply wished to recall a further possibility, which may be=20 useful or handy under special circumstances. Best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 16:58:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5565D37B5EB for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA11449 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:58:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:58:47 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: merged CAM changes Message-ID: <20000701175847.A11404@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have merged 6 different sets of CAM changes to RELENG_4. This includes 'camcontrol format', for low-level formatting disks. This also includes a change that disables the default "da0" device. So things like: camcontrol format won't work anymore, but: camcontrol format da2 Will work. With the number of ways people can shoot themselves in the foot with camcontrol, I think it's probably a good idea to make sure people have to specify which device they want to operate on. It may break a few scripts, but I think it's worth the small inconvenience. You'll need to do a buildworld to get the changes, since the format changes depend on changes to libcam. (Or you can just build and install libcam and then build and install camcontrol.) Many thanks to Mark Murray, Jacques Vidrine and Will Andrews for testing these for me, since I don't have a -stable box. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 17:29:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBD637B6B3; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA18277; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 09:59:10 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 09:59:10 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "David O'Brien" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should we MFC building modules with kernel rather than world Message-ID: <20000702095910.A18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20000630111539.A6718@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000630111539.A6718@dragon.nuxi.com> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 30 June 2000 at 11:15:39 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > Should the current method of building modules with the kernel rather than > the world in 5-CURRENT be merged into 4-STABLE for 4.1-RELEASE? Sounds good to me. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 17:57:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C3937B5F7 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:57:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15378; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:57:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007020057.RAA15378@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] In-Reply-To: <001501bfe3b2$b315d6e0$0101a8c0@rf.org> from Mark Ibell at "Jul 2, 0 11:17:40 am" To: marki@paradise.net.nz (Mark Ibell) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:57:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > Here is the output I get: > > $ ./gethost localhost > > Official host name: localhost > Internet address: 127.0.0.1 > $ ./gethost mars > > Official host name: mars.econz.co.nz > alias: mars > Internet address: 172.16.1.73 > $ Were there delays? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 18:49:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFD737B69B for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:49:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e621nZq08536; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:49:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007020149.e621nZq08536@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> "from Greg Work at Jul 2, 2000 08:23:55 am" To: Greg Work Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:49:35 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yup, you're hitting the same ones, and the reason this box is now Intel P-III 600E, Shuttle AV61 MB, 128MB ram (same stick I've been using). I think AMD has an issue in the K6-2 series. I give up. Larry [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > Hey ya Larry > > Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? > > ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with SIG's > 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have been thrashing > that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. The CPU / Motherboard / > Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 days no problems. Now - no luck > :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - > i have no idea how to debug them :( > > > FYI - System specs > > AMD K6-2 300 MHz > Jetway 542-B Motherboard (AT) > 64 meg PC-100 > Intel i740 video card > 4.3 gig Maxtor HDD (IDE) > Generic NIC > > G. > > -------------------------------------- > Greg Work > Email: Greg@FatCanary.com.au > -------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Rosenman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:41 PM > Subject: AMD K6-2 / 550 > > > > Well, I'm back... > > Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the 128MB > memory. > > > > This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. > > > > Still have a problem with make world. > > > > HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can make > worlds all day long > > with out an error. > > > > Anyone got a good explanation for this? > > > > Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if that makes > a difference. > > > > Larry > > -- > > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:14:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727F337B69B for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18911; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:44:22 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:44:22 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Greg Work Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702114422.Q18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200006280311.e5S3BWb28882@lerami.lerctr.org> <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Sunday, 2 July 2000 at 8:23:55 +0930, Greg Work wrote: > On Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:41 PM, "Larry Rosenman" wrote: >> Well, I'm back... >> Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the >> 128MB memory. >> >> This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. >> >> Still have a problem with make world. >> >> HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can >> make worlds all day long with out an error. >> >> Anyone got a good explanation for this? >> >> Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if >> that makes a difference. > > Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? > > ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with > SIG's 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have > been thrashing that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. You mean it never discovered a problem? What software were you running? > The CPU / Motherboard / Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 > days no problems. Now - no luck :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's > to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - i have no idea how to debug > them :( If they're hardware related, there's probably not much to see except that things will be different each time. I suspect that a large number of crashes on Microsoft machines are in fact due to flaky hardware. Despite my low opinion of Microsoft, I have not had an unexpected crash of a Microsoft system in years (it helps, of course, if you don't use them much :-). Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:18:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com (teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com [139.134.5.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6CD537BA6F for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Greg@fatcanary.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ra198215 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:18:59 +1000 Received: from WYBH-T-005-p-89-195.tmns.net.au ([203.54.89.195]) by mail0.bigpond.com (Claudes-Dodgy-MailRouter V2.8a 13/680284); 02 Jul 2000 12:18:58 Received: from thefridge (the-fridge.gwork.org.au [192.168.0.2]) by the-toaster.gwork.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00479; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:57:49 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from Greg@FatCanary.com.au) Message-ID: <000c01bfe3cb$b95cdbc0$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Reply-To: "Greg Work" From: "Greg Work" To: "Larry Rosenman" Cc: References: <200007020149.e621nZq08536@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:47:51 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hmm.... how easy is it to install an earlier 3.x ? (3.0-RELEASE --> 3.2-RELEASE) it would be interesting to see if that fixes the problem unfortunately - i dont have any spare HD's to stick it on - or i would try it i tell you what - this was *REALLY* getting me bugged - i thought i had fried the CPU / MB somehow... G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Rosenman" To: "Greg Work" Cc: "Larry Rosenman" ; Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 > Yup, you're hitting the same ones, and the reason this box > is now Intel P-III 600E, Shuttle AV61 MB, 128MB ram (same stick > I've been using). > > I think AMD has an issue in the K6-2 series. > > I give up. > > Larry > [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > > Hey ya Larry > > > > Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? > > > > ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with SIG's > > 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have been thrashing > > that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. The CPU / Motherboard / > > Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 days no problems. Now - no luck > > :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - > > i have no idea how to debug them :( > > > > > > FYI - System specs > > > > AMD K6-2 300 MHz > > Jetway 542-B Motherboard (AT) > > 64 meg PC-100 > > Intel i740 video card > > 4.3 gig Maxtor HDD (IDE) > > Generic NIC > > > > G. > > > > -------------------------------------- > > Greg Work > > Email: Greg@FatCanary.com.au > > -------------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry Rosenman" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:41 PM > > Subject: AMD K6-2 / 550 > > > > > > > Well, I'm back... > > > Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the 128MB > > memory. > > > > > > This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. > > > > > > Still have a problem with make world. > > > > > > HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can make > > worlds all day long > > > with out an error. > > > > > > Anyone got a good explanation for this? > > > > > > Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if that makes > > a difference. > > > > > > Larry > > > -- > > > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > > > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > > > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:22: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E18737B9D4 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e622Lu110181; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:21:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007020221.e622Lu110181@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <000c01bfe3cb$b95cdbc0$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> "from Greg Work at Jul 2, 2000 11:47:51 am" To: Greg Work Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:21:56 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I can't (the AMD K6-2 is back at the computer store), as I said, that computer now has an Intel P-III 600E in it :-). The tech's at IMS did say that AMD did admit to "some problem" with the K6-2's, so I'm not sure that an earlier FreeBSD will help... LER [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > hmm.... > > how easy is it to install an earlier 3.x ? (3.0-RELEASE --> 3.2-RELEASE) > it would be interesting to see if that fixes the problem > > unfortunately - i dont have any spare HD's to stick it on - or i would try > it > > i tell you what - this was *REALLY* getting me bugged - i thought i had > fried the CPU / MB somehow... > > G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Rosenman" > To: "Greg Work" > Cc: "Larry Rosenman" ; > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 > > > > Yup, you're hitting the same ones, and the reason this box > > is now Intel P-III 600E, Shuttle AV61 MB, 128MB ram (same stick > > I've been using). > > > > I think AMD has an issue in the K6-2 series. > > > > I give up. > > > > Larry > > [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > > > > Hey ya Larry > > > > > > Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? > > > > > > ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with > SIG's > > > 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have been > thrashing > > > that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. The CPU / > Motherboard / > > > Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 days no problems. Now - no > luck > > > :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's to 12's and core dumps - > unfortunately - > > > i have no idea how to debug them :( > > > > > > > > > FYI - System specs > > > > > > AMD K6-2 300 MHz > > > Jetway 542-B Motherboard (AT) > > > 64 meg PC-100 > > > Intel i740 video card > > > 4.3 gig Maxtor HDD (IDE) > > > Generic NIC > > > > > > G. > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > > > Greg Work > > > Email: Greg@FatCanary.com.au > > > -------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Larry Rosenman" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:41 PM > > > Subject: AMD K6-2 / 550 > > > > > > > > > > Well, I'm back... > > > > Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the > 128MB > > > memory. > > > > > > > > This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6. > > > > > > > > Still have a problem with make world. > > > > > > > > HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can > make > > > worlds all day long > > > > with out an error. > > > > > > > > Anyone got a good explanation for this? > > > > > > > > Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if that > makes > > > a difference. > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > -- > > > > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > > > > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > > > > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org > > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:29:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com (teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com [139.134.5.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16A1437B68A for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:29:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Greg@fatcanary.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot25.domain0.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ea198254 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:24:02 +1000 Received: from WYBH-T-005-p-89-195.tmns.net.au ([203.54.89.195]) by mail0.bigpond.com (Claudes-All-New-MailRouter V2.8a 13/681225); 02 Jul 2000 12:24:01 Received: from thefridge (the-fridge.gwork.org.au [192.168.0.2]) by the-toaster.gwork.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00499; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:02:52 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from Greg@FatCanary.com.au) Message-ID: <001201bfe3cc$6e1b9c40$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Reply-To: "Greg Work" From: "Greg Work" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: "Larry Rosenman" , References: <200006280311.e5S3BWb28882@lerami.lerctr.org> <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> <20000702114422.Q18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:52:54 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? > > > > ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with > > SIG's 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have > > been thrashing that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. > > You mean it never discovered a problem? What software were you > running? Was running win98 - and used to dual boot 3.0 --> 3.2-STABLE with 98 It got retired to a straight win98 box (ducks objects thrown at him) when i got a second machine > > > The CPU / Motherboard / Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 > > days no problems. Now - no luck :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's > > to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - i have no idea how to debug > > them :( > > If they're hardware related, there's probably not much to see except > that things will be different each time. > > I suspect that a large number of crashes on Microsoft machines are in > fact due to flaky hardware. Despite my low opinion of Microsoft, I > have not had an unexpected crash of a Microsoft system in years (it > helps, of course, if you don't use them much :-). the funny thing was that it never skipped a beat under M$ after a bios flash (it didnt like my vid card - but thats another issue :) ) /me is intregued G. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:32:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795A137B580 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19572; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:02:00 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:02:00 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Greg Work Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702120200.R18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200007020149.e621nZq08536@lerami.lerctr.org> <000c01bfe3cb$b95cdbc0$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <000c01bfe3cb$b95cdbc0$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Sunday, 2 July 2000 at 11:47:51 +0930, Greg Work wrote: > (mutilated description of hardware-related problems with AMD K6-2 deleted) > hmm.... > > how easy is it to install an earlier 3.x ? (3.0-RELEASE --> > 3.2-RELEASE) it would be interesting to see if that fixes the > problem I don't think that would be very interesting. All versions of FreeBSD run with the K6-2. > unfortunately - i dont have any spare HD's to stick it on - or i > would try it > > i tell you what - this was *REALLY* getting me bugged - i thought i had > fried the CPU / MB somehow... It's not that serious. I'd guess memory problems, or probably BIOS settings. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:33:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A27737B580 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19592; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:03:24 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:03:24 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702120324.S18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <000c01bfe3cb$b95cdbc0$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> <200007020221.e622Lu110181@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200007020221.e622Lu110181@lerami.lerctr.org> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 21:21:56 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: > (mutilated description of hardware-related problems with AMD K6-2 deleted) > hmm.... > I can't (the AMD K6-2 is back at the computer store), as > I said, that computer now has an Intel P-III 600E in it :-). > > The tech's at IMS did say that AMD did admit to "some problem" with > the K6-2's, so I'm not sure that an earlier FreeBSD will help... There have been "some problems" with all processors. Without any more accurate description, this statement doesn't help. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:35:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D099137B580 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19613; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:05:37 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:05:37 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Greg Work Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702120537.T18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200006280311.e5S3BWb28882@lerami.lerctr.org> <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> <20000702114422.Q18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> <001201bfe3cc$6e1b9c40$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <001201bfe3cc$6e1b9c40$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 2 July 2000 at 11:52:54 +0930, Greg Work wrote: >>> Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem? >>> >>> ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with >>> SIG's 10, 11 and 12 randomly. I know its not the memory - i have >>> been thrashing that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat. >> >> You mean it never discovered a problem? What software were you >> running? > > Was running win98 - and used to dual boot 3.0 --> 3.2-STABLE with 98 > It got retired to a straight win98 box (ducks objects thrown at him) when i > got a second machine OK, this seems to contradict your previous statements ("just turned into a BSD box"). >>> The CPU / Motherboard / Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2 >>> days no problems. Now - no luck :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's >>> to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - i have no idea how to debug >>> them :( >> >> If they're hardware related, there's probably not much to see except >> that things will be different each time. >> >> I suspect that a large number of crashes on Microsoft machines are in >> fact due to flaky hardware. Despite my low opinion of Microsoft, I >> have not had an unexpected crash of a Microsoft system in years (it >> helps, of course, if you don't use them much :-). > > the funny thing was that it never skipped a beat under M$ after a > bios flash (it didnt like my vid card - but thats another issue :) ) After a flash, or until after a flash? Check the BIOS settings; maybe they're overstressing the memory. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:37:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120F137B580 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:37:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e622bY510740; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:37:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <20000702120324.S18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> "from Greg Lehey at Jul 2, 2000 12:03:24 pm" To: Greg Lehey Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:37:33 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. I'm tired of fighting it. The *SAME MEMORY STICK* runs just fine on this Shuttle AV61 motherboard with Intel P-III 600E CPU. I can't get a more accurate description from the techs. if you want to trouble shoot it, be my guest, but I can't give any more time to it. I've played with ALL the BIOS settings on both a HOT-591/P and a HOT-597 Shuttle board with the K6-2/550, and also TONS of Kernel settings, nothing gets a successful repeatable MAKE WORLD. Therefore I went, reluctantly, and at a $200 cost, back to Intel. I resent your comment that it's memory or processor (read the threads I've posted recently). Larry Rosenman > On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 21:21:56 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > (mutilated description of hardware-related problems with AMD K6-2 deleted) > > hmm.... > > I can't (the AMD K6-2 is back at the computer store), as > > I said, that computer now has an Intel P-III 600E in it :-). > > > > The tech's at IMS did say that AMD did admit to "some problem" with > > the K6-2's, so I'm not sure that an earlier FreeBSD will help... > > There have been "some problems" with all processors. Without any > more accurate description, this statement doesn't help. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 19:54:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FBF37B69B for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:54:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19708; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:24:18 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:24:18 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702122418.W18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20000702120324.S18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 21:37:33 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: >> On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 21:21:56 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: >>> (mutilated description of hardware-related problems with AMD K6-2 deleted) >>> hmm.... >>> I can't (the AMD K6-2 is back at the computer store), as >>> I said, that computer now has an Intel P-III 600E in it :-). >>> >>> The tech's at IMS did say that AMD did admit to "some problem" with >>> the K6-2's, so I'm not sure that an earlier FreeBSD will help... >> >> There have been "some problems" with all processors. Without any >> more accurate description, this statement doesn't help. > > Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable > list over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a > CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make > world. > > I'm tired of fighting it. > > The *SAME MEMORY STICK* runs just fine on this Shuttle AV61 > motherboard with Intel P-III 600E CPU. This suggests that the problem was either the motherboard, the processor or the BIOS settings. > I can't get a more accurate description from the techs. > > if you want to trouble shoot it, be my guest, but I can't give any more > time to it. Nor I. But that doesn't make your assessment correct. > I've played with ALL the BIOS settings on both a HOT-591/P and a > HOT-597 Shuttle board with the K6-2/550, and also TONS of Kernel > settings, nothing gets a successful repeatable MAKE WORLD. It could still be the motherboard, or the specific processor. > Therefore I went, reluctantly, and at a $200 cost, back to Intel. > > I resent your comment that it's memory or processor (read the > threads I've posted recently). Your prerogative. I'm not trying to make black white or any such thing, but it seems that you haven't been very thorough in your analysis. That in itself isn't an issue, but under the circumstances I can't see why you blame one component over another. Lots of people are running all kinds of AMD processors, the same speed, slower and faster, and most of them work fine. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 20: 7:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263B337B6AA for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:07:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e6236cG12081; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:06:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007020306.e6236cG12081@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <20000702122418.W18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> "from Greg Lehey at Jul 2, 2000 12:24:18 pm" To: Greg Lehey Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:06:38 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 21:37:33 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: > >> On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 21:21:56 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: > >>> (mutilated description of hardware-related problems with AMD K6-2 deleted) > >>> hmm.... > >>> I can't (the AMD K6-2 is back at the computer store), as > >>> I said, that computer now has an Intel P-III 600E in it :-). > >>> > >>> The tech's at IMS did say that AMD did admit to "some problem" with > >>> the K6-2's, so I'm not sure that an earlier FreeBSD will help... > >> > >> There have been "some problems" with all processors. Without any > >> more accurate description, this statement doesn't help. > > > > Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable > > list over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a > > CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make > > world. > > > > I'm tired of fighting it. > > > > The *SAME MEMORY STICK* runs just fine on this Shuttle AV61 > > motherboard with Intel P-III 600E CPU. > > This suggests that the problem was either the motherboard, the > processor or the BIOS settings. ALL BIOS SETTINGS were tried (Including resetting to the most conservative BIOS SETUP DEFAULTS). > > > I can't get a more accurate description from the techs. > > > > if you want to trouble shoot it, be my guest, but I can't give any more > > time to it. > > Nor I. But that doesn't make your assessment correct. I was quoting a tech at IMS computers in Carrollton, TX quoting an AMD rep at a tech forum they had. THIS IS AN EXACT QUOTE. > > > I've played with ALL the BIOS settings on both a HOT-591/P and a > > HOT-597 Shuttle board with the K6-2/550, and also TONS of Kernel > > settings, nothing gets a successful repeatable MAKE WORLD. > > It could still be the motherboard, or the specific processor. Multiple Processors and MB's were tried. > > > Therefore I went, reluctantly, and at a $200 cost, back to Intel. > > > > I resent your comment that it's memory or processor (read the > > threads I've posted recently). > > Your prerogative. I'm not trying to make black white or any such > thing, but it seems that you haven't been very thorough in your > analysis. That in itself isn't an issue, but under the circumstances > I can't see why you blame one component over another. Lots of people > are running all kinds of AMD processors, the same speed, slower and > faster, and most of them work fine. Sorry, I can't say I've not been thorough. I've posted my steps, and this is the first time you've jumped in. I was hoping for some ideas to try. Obviously, I'm NOT the only one with issues. I thought a couple of different times that we had nailed it, but was proven wrong later. At this point I give up, and will stay with Intel chips. I'd like to know what combination is eventually found to get an AMD K6-2/550 to work, but the box here is now Intel. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 20:22:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-151-197-201-28.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-197-201-28.bellatlantic.net [151.197.201.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E21037B6AA for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by adsl-151-197-201-28.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00240; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:22:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:22:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@adsl-151-197-201-28.bellatlantic.net To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Greg Lehey , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: >Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list >over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a >CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. > >I'm tired of fighting it. It's got to be flaky hardware somewhwere, Larry. I'm running an AMD K6-2/500 here on a Soyo Super 7 motherboard with a single 128M stick of SDRAM. I just finished a make world today (1hr 20m total time) and it never gave me so much as a hiccup. I usually make world once a week around this time and it has never failed on this configuration. ========================================================== = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = ========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 20:40:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B4337BC77 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e623eYX13655; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:40:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007020340.e623eYX13655@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: "from Bryan Liesner at Jul 1, 2000 11:22:15 pm" To: Bryan Liesner Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:40:34 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , Greg Lehey , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > >Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list > >over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a > >CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. > > > >I'm tired of fighting it. > > It's got to be flaky hardware somewhwere, Larry. I'm running an AMD > K6-2/500 here on a Soyo Super 7 motherboard with a single 128M stick > of SDRAM. I just finished a make world today (1hr 20m total time) and > it never gave me so much as a hiccup. I usually make world once a > week around this time and it has never failed on this configuration. Fine. I suspect something in the Shuttle board/Bios Combo, then. As I said, I couldn't get 2 different Shuttle Boards, and a couple of instances of each, to make it work. I just didn't have the time to devote to finding a solution that WORKED. I *DID* post, and HOPED for a response like this one over the last month or so. Today is the first dialog I've had off the list with answers. Larry > > > ========================================================== > = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = > = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = > = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = > ========================================================== > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 20:51: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC5937BC7E for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19919; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:20:43 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 13:20:43 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Bryan Liesner , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702132043.X18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200007020340.e623eYX13655@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200007020340.e623eYX13655@lerami.lerctr.org> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 22:40:34 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: >> On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: >> >>> Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list >>> over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a >>> CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. >>> >>> I'm tired of fighting it. >> >> It's got to be flaky hardware somewhwere, Larry. I'm running an AMD >> K6-2/500 here on a Soyo Super 7 motherboard with a single 128M stick >> of SDRAM. I just finished a make world today (1hr 20m total time) and >> it never gave me so much as a hiccup. I usually make world once a >> week around this time and it has never failed on this configuration. > > Fine. I suspect something in the Shuttle board/Bios Combo, then. > > As I said, I couldn't get 2 different Shuttle Boards, and a couple > of instances of each, to make it work. > > I just didn't have the time to devote to finding a solution > that WORKED. > > I *DID* post, and HOPED for a response like this one over the last > month or so. Today is the first dialog I've had off the list > with answers. Unfortunately, that's the way things work here. You would probably have been better off with the FreeBSD-questions list; the topic has nothing to do with -STABLE, and there are fewer subscribers. Also, note that people don't always have time to read the lists. I've just got back from 3 weeks of travel, for example. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 20:56:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9CE37B678 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e623uPq14179; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:56:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007020356.e623uPq14179@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: <20000702132043.X18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> "from Greg Lehey at Jul 2, 2000 01:20:43 pm" To: Greg Lehey Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:56:25 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , Bryan Liesner , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 22:40:34 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: > >> On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: > >> > >>> Let's put it this way, I've posted a NUMBER of items to the -stable list > >>> over the last 2-4 weeks as I've fought this one. I can't get a > >>> CPU/BIOS/MB with a K6-2/550 on it to SUCCESSFULLY/RELIABLY make world. > >>> > >>> I'm tired of fighting it. > >> > >> It's got to be flaky hardware somewhwere, Larry. I'm running an AMD > >> K6-2/500 here on a Soyo Super 7 motherboard with a single 128M stick > >> of SDRAM. I just finished a make world today (1hr 20m total time) and > >> it never gave me so much as a hiccup. I usually make world once a > >> week around this time and it has never failed on this configuration. > > > > Fine. I suspect something in the Shuttle board/Bios Combo, then. > > > > As I said, I couldn't get 2 different Shuttle Boards, and a couple > > of instances of each, to make it work. > > > > I just didn't have the time to devote to finding a solution > > that WORKED. > > > > I *DID* post, and HOPED for a response like this one over the last > > month or so. Today is the first dialog I've had off the list > > with answers. > > Unfortunately, that's the way things work here. You would probably > have been better off with the FreeBSD-questions list; the topic has > nothing to do with -STABLE, and there are fewer subscribers. Also, > note that people don't always have time to read the lists. I've just > got back from 3 weeks of travel, for example. I thought (since this all worked on the old P-90 board), that -STABLE MIGHT have been broken, so this is where I posted. I understand about people and time, but don't accuse me of not TRYING to get help. Larry > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 21:17:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A3A37B8AD for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:17:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000616) id e624HFe14937; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:17:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007020417.e624HFe14937@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 In-Reply-To: "from Bryan Liesner at Jul 2, 2000 00:07:55 am" To: Bryan Liesner Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:17:15 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > >I *DID* post, and HOPED for a response like this one over the last > >month or so. Today is the first dialog I've had off the list > >with answers. > > > >Larry > > Just a thought - try disabling the external cache memory on the > mobo. I know it will run painfully slow, but that's a good place to > start. Some manufacturers cut corners there. Did that, and it ran fine. Again, I tried LOTS of things. > > I'm not trying to be a smartass, but before I bought my motherboard, I > did a little homework and the Soyo got great reviews from a few > different sources. I can't say anything positive or negative about > the Shuttle, I'm just not familiar with it. It's what my dealer sells (He gives good prices, and stands behind it. I've bought LOTS of stuff over the years from him both for personal use and for the ISP I ran (CyberRamp Internet Services, Dallas, now part of Internet America, Inc.)). I was looking to upgrade an aged P-90 to something faster, and cheaply, so they recommended the AMD. Didn't work out this time, but I still like the guys at the dealer. > > For what it's worth, you're firmware version on the adaptec gave us > all fits at work. Unfortunately the only platform we distribute our > software on is NT 4.0, so I can't remark on how FreeBSD handles it. It ran fine on UnixWare 2.1.3, FreeBSD (on the P-90, and now the P-III, although I did swap the board for a 1.16 one from work as Problem source id), but it didn't change the AMD case. > > Gotta make a buck :) Corporate in their infinite wisdom dropped our > Unix based products. NT is really neat-o and comes on those cool CDs > with the holograms :) I understand that one. > > ========================================================== > = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = > = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = > = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = > ========================================================== > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 22:34:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131CD37BCD6; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:34:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA41258; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:34:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02037; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:34:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200007020534.WAA02037@realtime.exit.com> Subject: SB Live! versus -stable. To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: cg@freebsd.org Reply-To: frank@exit.com Organization: Exit Consulting X-Copyright0: Copyright 2000 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM962516082-2018-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ELM962516082-2018-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I had three panics from this today (the first was accidental when I went to a webpage with music attached; the other two were me trying to get a good dump). I got some info from the dump. The most relevant bits are that the NMI was at IP 0x280f819a, which isn't in the kernel. I don't know where this might be, a shared library maybe? (I was running the Linux Netscape 4.73, if that might help.) I've attached a disassembly around the faulting instruction, as well as some other info gleaned from the dump. Cameron, et al, if you want any other info, please let me know; I'll hang on to the dump as long as necessary (when you have 36 gig, space isn't a real problem :-). -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://store.exit.com/ --ELM962516082-2018-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=assem Content-Description: assem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:302 #1 0xc01612f5 in panic ( fmt=0xc02a1660 "RAM parity error, likely hardware failure.") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:552 #2 0xc0267e8d in isa_nmi (cd=0) at ../../i386/isa/intr_machdep.c:187 #3 0xc025f42f in trap (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 147577152, tf_esi = 135760192, tf_ebp = -1077937456, tf_isp = -656769068, tf_ebx = 262144, tf_edx = 135729216, tf_ecx = 254400, tf_eax = 11816960, tf_trapno = 19, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = 672104858, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -1077937560, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:379 #4 0x280f819a in ?? () #5 0x8051b67 in ?? () #6 0x8054d3a in ?? () #7 0x8054e09 in ?? () #8 0x804a2cf in ?? () #9 0x80495c5 in ?? () (kgdb) print /x frame $1 = {tf_fs = 0x2f, tf_es = 0x2f, tf_ds = 0x2f, tf_edi = 0x8cbd940, tf_esi = 0x8178940, tf_ebp = 0xbfbffad0, tf_isp = 0xd8da7fd4, tf_ebx = 0x40000, tf_edx = 0x8171040, tf_ecx = 0x3e1c0, tf_eax = 0xb45000, tf_trapno = 0x13, tf_err = 0x0, tf_eip = 0x280f819a, tf_cs = 0x1f, tf_eflags = 0x10206, tf_esp = 0xbfbffa68, tf_ss = 0x2f} 0x280f8148: andb $0x4e,%al 0x280f814a: je 0x280f818f 0x280f814d: pushl %ebx 0x280f814e: incl %esp 0x280f814f: cmpb (%eax),%ah 0x280f8151: boundl 0x6f(%ebx),%esp 0x280f8154: jo 0x280f81cf 0x280f8156: pushl %ebx 0x280f8158: subb $0x76,%al 0x280f815a: andb %dh,(%ecx) 0x280f815c: andb %dh,%cs:%ss:(%ecx) 0x280f8160: cmpl %edi,(%ecx) 0x280f8162: das 0x280f8164: xorl %esi,(%ecx) 0x280f8166: das 0x280f8167: xorl %esi,(%edx) 0x280f8169: andb %dh,(%eax) 0x280f816b: xorb %bh,(%edx) 0x280f816d: xorl $0x36303a30,%eax 0x280f8172: andb %ch,0x74(%edx) 0x280f8175: arpl %sp,(%eax) 0x280f8177: incl %ebp 0x280f8178: js 0x280f81ea 0x280f817a: andb %ah,(%eax,%eax,1) 0x280f817d: leal 0x0(%esi),%esi 0x280f8180: pushl %esi 0x280f8181: pushl %edi 0x280f8182: movl 0xc(%esp,1),%edi 0x280f8186: movl 0x10(%esp,1),%esi 0x280f818a: movl 0x14(%esp,1),%ecx 0x280f818e: movl %edi,%eax 0x280f8190: subl %esi,%eax 0x280f8192: cmpl %ecx,%eax 0x280f8194: jb 0x280f81ac 0x280f8196: cld 0x280f8197: shrl $0x2,%ecx 0x280f819a: repz movsl %ds:(%esi),%es:(%edi) <-- Faulting instruction. 0x280f819c: movl 0x14(%esp,1),%ecx 0x280f81a0: andl $0x3,%ecx 0x280f81a3: repz movsb %ds:(%esi),%es:(%edi) 0x280f81a5: movl 0xc(%esp,1),%eax 0x280f81a9: popl %edi 0x280f81aa: popl %esi 0x280f81ab: ret (kgdb) proc 373 (kgdb) bt #0 mi_switch () at machine/globals.h:119 #1 0xc0163f91 in tsleep (ident=0xc030206c, priority=280, wmesg=0xc02819e8 "select", timo=8640001) at ../../kern/kern_synch.c:467 #2 0xc016ed28 in select (p=0xd8dd5740, uap=0xd8e18edc) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:702 #3 0xc22393dc in ?? () #4 0xc22392bb in ?? () #5 0xc0260055 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 146812732, tf_esi = -1077944272, tf_ebp = 1342250056, tf_isp = -656306220, tf_ebx = 1342250064, tf_edx = 1342250600, tf_ecx = 148557768, tf_eax = 82, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 143784734, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = 1342250052, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1126 #6 0xc024d7fc in Xint0x80_syscall () #7 0x891e5a4 in ?? () #8 0x891e7a8 in ?? () #9 0x891cd68 in ?? () #10 0x891cda7 in ?? () #11 0x891ce14 in ?? () (kgdb) frame 2 #2 0xc016ed28 in select (p=0xd8dd5740, uap=0xd8e18edc) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:702 702 error = tsleep((caddr_t)&selwait, PSOCK | PCATCH, "select", timo); (kgdb) print /x *p $2 = {p_procq = {tqe_next = 0xd65e9780, tqe_prev = 0xd65e8dc0}, p_list = { le_next = 0xd8dd55a0, le_prev = 0xd8dd5268}, p_cred = 0xc2020ee0, p_fd = 0xc2294400, p_stats = 0xd8e17b78, p_limit = 0xc2297f00, p_upages_obj = 0xd8e0f1e0, p_procsig = 0xc20d1740, p_flag = 0x4086, p_stat = 0x3, p_pad1 = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, p_pid = 0x175, p_hash = { le_next = 0x0, le_prev = 0xc1e475d4}, p_pglist = {le_next = 0xd8dd5a80, le_prev = 0xd8dd4dbc}, p_pptr = 0xd8dd55a0, p_sibling = {le_next = 0x0, le_prev = 0xd8dd4dc8}, p_children = {lh_first = 0x0}, p_ithandle = { callout = 0x0}, p_oppid = 0x0, p_dupfd = 0x0, p_vmspace = 0xd8dfba00, p_estcpu = 0x4, p_cpticks = 0x0, p_pctcpu = 0x0, p_wchan = 0xc030206c, p_wmesg = 0xc02819e8, p_swtime = 0xbe, p_slptime = 0x1, p_realtimer = { it_interval = {tv_sec = 0x0, tv_usec = 0x0}, it_value = {tv_sec = 0x0, tv_usec = 0x0}}, p_runtime = 0x1ac26, p_uu = 0x0, p_su = 0x0, p_iu = 0x0, p_uticks = 0x2, p_sticks = 0x6, p_iticks = 0x0, p_traceflag = 0x0, p_tracep = 0x0, p_siglist = {__bits = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}}, p_textvp = 0xd8df27c0, p_lock = 0x0, p_oncpu = 0xff, p_lastcpu = 0x1, p_rqindex = 0x8, p_locks = 0x0, p_simple_locks = 0x0, p_stops = 0x0, p_stype = 0x0, p_step = 0x0, p_pfsflags = 0x0, p_pad3 = {0x0, 0x0}, p_retval = {0x0, 0x50011e68}, p_sigiolst = {slh_first = 0x0}, p_sigparent = 0x14, p_oldsigmask = {__bits = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}}, p_sig = 0x0, p_code = 0x0, p_klist = {slh_first = 0x0}, p_sigmask = { __bits = {0x2000, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}}, p_sigstk = {ss_sp = 0x0, ss_size = 0x0, ss_flags = 0x4}, p_priority = 0x18, p_usrpri = 0x32, p_nice = 0x0, p_comm = {0x6e, 0x65, 0x74, 0x73, 0x63, 0x61, 0x70, 0x65, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, p_pgrp = 0xc2020980, p_sysent = 0xc223fce0, p_rtprio = {type = 0x1, prio = 0x0}, p_prison = 0x0, p_args = 0xc2020e60, p_addr = 0xd8e17000, p_md = {md_regs = 0xd8e18fa8}, p_xstat = 0x0, p_acflag = 0x0, p_ru = 0x0, p_nthreads = 0x0, p_aioinfo = 0x0, p_wakeup = 0x0, p_peers = 0x0, p_leader = 0xd8dd5740, p_asleep = { as_priority = 0x0, as_timo = 0x0}, p_emuldata = 0x0} --ELM962516082-2018-0_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 22:40:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fobos.ldc.net (fobos.ldc.net [213.160.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F67037B521 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sasha@deimos.ldc.net) Received: from deimos.ldc.net (deimos.ldc.net [213.160.128.3]) by fobos.ldc.net (8.10.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id e625dlu41668; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:39:48 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:39:47 +0300 (EEST) From: Alexander Nazarenko To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Mark Ibell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] In-Reply-To: <200007012131.OAA14850@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think you have ftpd with identd support on local machine, and there is no identd running on it and kernel compilled with "dropping" rst packets. Try to turn on identd. On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > > The problem appears to be related to the absence of a domain extension. > > For example, on the machine in question (mars.econz.co.nz): > > > > # ftp localhost > > [pauses for 75 seconds] > > > > # ftp localhost.econz.co.nz > > [connects straight away] > > If you compile the attached program, and use it to lookup > "localhost", what do you get? > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 23: 6:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pilikia.net (pilikia.net [12.36.98.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83AC37B753 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Received: from taz.pilikia.net (taz.pilikia.net [192.168.0.2]) by pilikia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA36079; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:05:41 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000701200540.00bab680@pilikia.net> X-Sender: art@pilikia.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 20:05:40 -1000 To: Greg Lehey From: "Art Neilson, WH7N" Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000702122418.W18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> <20000702120324.S18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200007020237.e622bY510740@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Right, I've been running FreeBSD for a couple of years on a Tyan Titan motherboard with a 200Mhz AMD K6-2 with absolutely zero problems. I installed 2.2.8 on it originally and now am running 3.5-STABLE. It's rock solid with FreeBSD and I love it. At 12:24 PM 7/2/00 +0930, you wrote: > > [ stuff deleted .. ] > >Your prerogative. I'm not trying to make black white or any such >thing, but it seems that you haven't been very thorough in your >analysis. That in itself isn't an issue, but under the circumstances >I can't see why you blame one component over another. Lots of people >are running all kinds of AMD processors, the same speed, slower and >faster, and most of them work fine. > >Greg >-- >Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key >See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, WH7N - FISTS #7448 Bank of Hawaii Tech Support http://www.pilikia.net art@pilikia.net, aneilson@boh.com, wh7n@arrl.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 23:13:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-2-178.adsl.one.net [216.23.15.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4011F37B620 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:13:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14290; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:19:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:19:23 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Greg Lehey Cc: Larry Rosenman , Greg Work , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 / 550 Message-ID: <20000702021923.A14043@cokane.yi.org> References: <000c01bfe3cb$b95cdbc0$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au> <200007020221.e622Lu110181@lerami.lerctr.org> <20000702120324.S18213@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000702120324.S18213@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 10:35:11PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The "some problem" you refer to was the disabled cache pipeline in the earlier models. You had to disable the option for CPU Cache Write Pipeline, or else large data writes to/from memory could crash your system. It was actually a minor thing, and probably wasn't causing this problem. A lot of the trouble associated with the k6-2 is actually from the chipsets and motherboards that may not have been built as well as the nice boards Intel sells (like the infamous SE440BX) as long as you do research into the hardware, you can get a rock-solid system. Greg Lehey had the audacity to say: > > On Saturday, 1 July 2000 at 21:21:56 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > (mutilated description of hardware-related problems with AMD K6-2 deleted) > > hmm.... > > I can't (the AMD K6-2 is back at the computer store), as > > I said, that computer now has an Intel P-III 600E in it :-). > > > > The tech's at IMS did say that AMD did admit to "some problem" with > > the K6-2's, so I'm not sure that an earlier FreeBSD will help... > > There have been "some problems" with all processors. Without any > more accurate description, this statement doesn't help. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 1 23:16:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296F437B668 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:16:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marki@paradise.net.nz) Received: from evileye (203-79-68-14.apx0.paradise.net.nz [203.79.68.14]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e626GMi14927; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 18:16:22 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <003c01bfe3ed$0831d0e0$0101a8c0@rf.org> From: "Mark Ibell" To: Cc: References: <200007020057.RAA15378@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 18:14:11 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG no delays at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chad R. Larson To: Mark Ibell Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: telnet/tcp problems in 4.0-RELEASE] > As I recall, Mark Ibell wrote: > > Here is the output I get: > > > > $ ./gethost localhost > > > > Official host name: localhost > > Internet address: 127.0.0.1 > > $ ./gethost mars > > > > Official host name: mars.econz.co.nz > > alias: mars > > Internet address: 172.16.1.73 > > $ > > Were there delays? > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message