From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 2:29:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.de (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA70C37B416; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 02:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16D1DB-0007pN-0A; Sun, 09 Dec 2001 11:29:33 +0100 Received: from rebecca (320063858491-0001@[217.83.172.138]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16D1D1-0MBBaKC; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 11:29:23 +0100 From: Thomas.Kovacs@t-online.de (Thomas Kovacs) To: "'Wilko Bulte'" , "'Andrew Gallatin'" , Cc: Subject: AW: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 11:33:06 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c180e8$53f68f40$0100a8c0@rebecca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20011203085355.A93421@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Sender: 320063858491-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok. I tried your build. The Mylex is being recognised. Disklabel is writing information's onto the disks and the "partitions" (sorry, still thinking in NT...) where successfully created. Then I choose "minimal" and the installation starts. And now to the part, where I was nearly started crying: - the copy process gets slower and slower - it seems like the machine freezes when I opened the console "alt+f2" I saw this nice messages: -> mlx0: I/O error - attempt to write beyond end of drive I updated the Mylex bios to 2.7 (3.xx would work but I don't know by now where to get this 2nd chip...) I went back to NT console and installed it. It worked... Restarted the FreeBSD installation. Same error. Any ideas??? Thx, Thomas -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG] Im Auftrag von Wilko Bulte Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2001 23:54 An: Andrew Gallatin; obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Thomas Kovacs; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Betreff: Re: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 09:51:32PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >=20 > > Thomas Kovacs writes: > > > Me again... > > >=20 > > > Back from holydays I tried to install FreeBSD on the alpha (AS2100 > > > 5/300). As I said before, I was able to boot. But with your disks the > > > system is not recognizing my CD drive :( . Unfortunately the ftp > >=20 > > > I'm willing to send out some fine German Christmas beer (strong, but > > > good :). > > >=20 > >=20 > > Wilko mentioned something about building an alpha snapshot last week. > > Perhaps he could post the install floppies.. That would be the > > easiest thing. >=20 > I built a snapshot, after David trimmed the bootfloppy kernel (again..) > that worked OK. I'm waiting for David to tell me where he wants the > snapshot to go (it is destined for ftp-master I think). For now it (the miniinst.iso; disc2.iso is still uploading) is as http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snap I'm waiting for David's input on how to get it on ftp-master. Wilko [who likes German beer BTW ;) ] --=20 | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands=09 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 2:52:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7F237B419; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 02:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB9AqTo59959; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 11:52:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 11:52:29 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: adam@blacktabby.org Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It works! Message-ID: <20011209115229.A59927@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011208164346.4330571a.adam@blacktabby.org>; <20011208204701.A332@dragon.nuxi.com> <3C12947F.30850.2A47C09@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C12947F.30850.2A47C09@localhost>; from adam@blacktabby.org on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 10:30:23PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 10:30:23PM -0800, adam@blacktabby.org wrote: > On 8 Dec 2001 at 20:47, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 04:43:46PM -0800, Adam Kranzel wrote: > > > Hi... > > > > > > I got -CURRENT installed on my 5305 (after some messing around and > > > discovering that while -STABLE won't boot of the RAID controller, -CURRENT > > > will), and am building world now. > > > > What RAID controller is this? > > > > Mylex DAC960, single-channel, don't remember the DEC model number for it. That is a DEC KZPSC- also called a RAIDarray230 -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 4:24: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0B537B416; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 04:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB9CNqu60266; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 13:23:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 13:23:52 +0100 From: "'Wilko Bulte'" To: Thomas Kovacs Cc: "'Andrew Gallatin'" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing Message-ID: <20011209132352.E60136@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011203085355.A93421@freebie.xs4all.nl> <000001c180e8$53f68f40$0100a8c0@rebecca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c180e8$53f68f40$0100a8c0@rebecca>; from Thomas.Kovacs@t-online.de on Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:33:06AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:33:06AM -0800, Thomas Kovacs wrote: > Ok. I tried your build. The Mylex is being recognised. Disklabel is > writing information's onto the disks and the "partitions" (sorry, still > thinking in NT...) where successfully created. Then I choose "minimal" > and the installation starts. And now to the part, where I was nearly > started crying: > > - the copy process gets slower and slower > - it seems like the machine freezes > > when I opened the console "alt+f2" I saw this nice messages: > > -> mlx0: I/O error - attempt to write beyond end of drive > > I updated the Mylex bios to 2.7 (3.xx would work but I don't know by now > where to get this 2nd chip...) I went back to NT console and installed > it. It worked... > Restarted the FreeBSD installation. Same error. > > Any ideas??? I think I remember Mike (msmith@freebsd.org) mentioning that 2.x firmware on the Mylex is not a lot of fun. Forgot any details though. I once checked with Mylex and found out you need a specific minimum hardware rev before you can go to 3.x firmware. If that is only the second flash rom I don't know. I have given up on the DAC960s I had and sold them ;) W/ -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 12:11:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455FA37B416; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 12:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB9KGbe01141; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 12:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200112092016.fB9KGbe01141@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Thomas.Kovacs@t-online.de (Thomas Kovacs) Cc: "'Wilko Bulte'" , "'Andrew Gallatin'" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Dec 2001 11:33:06 PST." <000001c180e8$53f68f40$0100a8c0@rebecca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 12:16:37 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bug(s) in the Mylex driver. Matthew Dodd has my controllers, so I can't fix this, sorry. Pester him; he was going to maintain this driver. 8( > Ok. I tried your build. The Mylex is being recognised. Disklabel is > writing information's onto the disks and the "partitions" (sorry, still > thinking in NT...) where successfully created. Then I choose "minimal" > and the installation starts. And now to the part, where I was nearly > started crying: > > - the copy process gets slower and slower > - it seems like the machine freezes > > when I opened the console "alt+f2" I saw this nice messages: > > -> mlx0: I/O error - attempt to write beyond end of drive > > I updated the Mylex bios to 2.7 (3.xx would work but I don't know by now > where to get this 2nd chip...) I went back to NT console and installed > it. It worked... > Restarted the FreeBSD installation. Same error. > > Any ideas??? > > Thx, Thomas > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG] Im Auftrag von Wilko Bulte > Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2001 23:54 > An: Andrew Gallatin; obrien@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: Thomas Kovacs; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 09:51:32PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > >=20 > > > Thomas Kovacs writes: > > > > Me again... > > > >=20 > > > > Back from holydays I tried to install FreeBSD on the alpha > (AS2100 > > > > 5/300). As I said before, I was able to boot. But with your disks > the > > > > system is not recognizing my CD drive :( . Unfortunately the ftp > > >=20 > > > > > I'm willing to send out some fine German Christmas beer (strong, > but > > > > good :). > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Wilko mentioned something about building an alpha snapshot last > week. > > > Perhaps he could post the install floppies.. That would be the > > > easiest thing. > >=20 > > I built a snapshot, after David trimmed the bootfloppy kernel > (again..) > > that worked OK. I'm waiting for David to tell me where he wants the > > snapshot to go (it is destined for ftp-master I think). > > For now it (the miniinst.iso; disc2.iso is still uploading) is as > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snap > > I'm waiting for David's input on how to get it on ftp-master. > > Wilko > [who likes German beer BTW ;) ] > --=20 > | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands=09 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 12:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322A937B419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 12:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB9KGtP61657 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:16:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:16:55 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: failure to make release with DOCs Message-ID: <20011209211655.A61634@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Anybody tried building a RELENG_4 release *with* docs enabled recently? NODOC=YES worked fine for me, but now I tried to build the docs as well. As part of that process half a truckload of ports need to be built. And that seems to fail: ... >> Checksum OK for pkgconfig-0.8.0.tar.gz. ===> pkgconfig-0.8.0 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> pkgconfig-0.8.0 depends on executable: libtool - found ... checking for __d10_pthread_attr_init in -lthread... no checking for __pthread_attr_init_system in -lpthread... no configure: error: I can't find the libraries for the thread implementation posix. Please choose another thread implementation or provide information on your thread implementation. You can also run 'configure --disable-threads' to compile without thread support. configure: error: ./configure failed for glib-1.2.8 ===> Script "configure" failed: here are the contents of "config.log" This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. configure:733: checking for a BSD compatible install configure:786: checking whether build environment is sane ... configure:984: checking for Cygwin environment configure:1000: cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 conftest.c 1>&5 configure: In function `main': configure:996: `__CYGWIN32__' undeclared (first use in this function) configure:996: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once configure:996: for each function it appears in.) configure: failed program was: #line 989 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" ... (end of "config.log") *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pkgconfig. *** Error code 1 Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 12:25:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F80537B405 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 12:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19285; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:24:28 +1100 (EDT) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37640) with ESMTP id <01KBP10XRE5CVLVSVD@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:24:26 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB9KOON89695; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:24:24 +1100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:24:24 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: How to enable logging of machine checks? In-reply-to: ; from jakari@bithose.com on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:58:46AM -0500 To: Jameel Akari Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Jameel Akari , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20011210072424.B63990@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207143036.01d69e30@pop.ozemail.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-Dec-07 10:58:46 -0500, Jameel Akari wrote: > Indeed, the Multia does (almost) the same thing. On of my Multias >running Linux eventually succumbed to the dreaded "heat death" where one >of the ECC logic chips on the board and it pullup resistors get fried, >causing random ECC "errors". Actually the 74F623 is just an octal buffer for the L2 (external) cache. And, based on my decoding of the LCA memory interface, the L2 cache ECC is disabled by default. > Does anyone have a "tips and tricks" about FreeeBSD on the >Multia.. things I should know about before I bust out the soldering iron >and fix the Multia just for kicks? About the only problem I've found is that the TGA isn't supported by default - but that is nearly fixed. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 13:44:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from poptart.bithose.com (poptart.bithose.com [208.171.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE2E37B405 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 13:44:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jakari@localhost) by poptart.bithose.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB9LicR55017; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:44:38 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: poptart.bithose.com: jakari owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:44:38 -0500 (EST) From: Jameel Akari To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Subject: Re: How to enable logging of machine checks? In-Reply-To: <20011210072424.B63990@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2001-Dec-07 10:58:46 -0500, Jameel Akari wrote: > > Indeed, the Multia does (almost) the same thing. On of my Multias > >running Linux eventually succumbed to the dreaded "heat death" where one > > Actually the 74F623 is just an octal buffer for the L2 (external) cache. It's been a while since I looked at it, didn't remember what the chip was. So I was sorta close, granted that it has nothing to do with RAM ECC. But I wonder why it starting to spew RAM ECC machine checks.. hmm. Guess I should run the thing and see what they really were. > And, based on my decoding of the LCA memory interface, the L2 cache ECC > is disabled by default. Hmm... odd. Whatever messages I saw were about ECC traps, and obviously if the cache ECC was off, the machine would have died. But it kept running (though I've never seen a slower kernel build). Okay, now I've gone and confused myself, so I'll just go try it again. ;) BTW, a Multia doesn't run real well with a broken +3V power pin, either. Grrr. > About the only problem I've found is that the TGA isn't supported by > default - but that is nearly fixed. Yep, ran into that problem on my AS200. #!/jameel/akari for zig in $(find / -name zig); do rm -f "$zig"; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 14:34: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3396D37B405 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 14:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB9MY2611205; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:34:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB9MYDtx090987; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:34:13 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB9MYCW03749; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:34:12 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB9MYCi09941; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:34:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:34:11 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: failure to make release with DOCs Message-ID: <20011209233411.K7042@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011209211655.A61634@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011209211655.A61634@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 09:16:55PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Hi > > Anybody tried building a RELENG_4 release *with* docs enabled > recently? NODOC=YES worked fine for me, but now I tried to > build the docs as well. As part of that process half a truckload > of ports need to be built. And that seems to fail: There is a small problem with pthreads on stable: bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> cat test.c int main () { return 0; } bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> gcc -o test test.c -pthread /usr/lib/libc_r.so: undefined reference to `_thread_sys_sigreturn' Exit 1 That's what Daniel Eischen told me: : OK, the problem is with libc/alpha/gen/setjmp.S. Change : the PCALL(sigreturn) to CALL(sigreturn) near the bottom of : the file. I hadn't the time to check yet, because I need to recheckout the lib source before. > > ... > >> Checksum OK for pkgconfig-0.8.0.tar.gz. > ===> pkgconfig-0.8.0 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> pkgconfig-0.8.0 depends on executable: libtool - found > ... > checking for __d10_pthread_attr_init in -lthread... no > checking for __pthread_attr_init_system in -lpthread... no > configure: error: I can't find the libraries for the thread implementation > posix. Please choose another thread implementation or > provide information on your thread implementation. > You can also run 'configure --disable-threads' > to compile without thread support. > configure: error: ./configure failed for glib-1.2.8 > ===> Script "configure" failed: here are the contents of "config.log" > This file contains any messages produced by compilers while > running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. > > configure:733: checking for a BSD compatible install > configure:786: checking whether build environment is sane > ... > configure:984: checking for Cygwin environment > configure:1000: cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 conftest.c 1>&5 > configure: In function `main': > configure:996: `__CYGWIN32__' undeclared (first use in this function) > configure:996: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > configure:996: for each function it appears in.) > configure: failed program was: > #line 989 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > ... > (end of "config.log") > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pkgconfig. > *** Error code 1 -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 14:45:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D012137B416 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 14:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB9Mj2K62145; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:45:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:45:02 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bernd Walter Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: failure to make release with DOCs Message-ID: <20011209234502.A62124@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011209211655.A61634@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011209233411.K7042@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011209233411.K7042@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de on Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:34:11PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:34:11PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 09:16:55PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Hi > > > > Anybody tried building a RELENG_4 release *with* docs enabled > > recently? NODOC=YES worked fine for me, but now I tried to > > build the docs as well. As part of that process half a truckload > > of ports need to be built. And that seems to fail: > > There is a small problem with pthreads on stable: > bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> cat test.c > int > main () { > return 0; > } > bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> gcc -o test test.c -pthread > /usr/lib/libc_r.so: undefined reference to `_thread_sys_sigreturn' > Exit 1 Duh.. /me has no clue about this threads stuff. I assume this is something that is mandatory to be fixed before 4.5 can be rolled? Wilko > > That's what Daniel Eischen told me: > : OK, the problem is with libc/alpha/gen/setjmp.S. Change > : the PCALL(sigreturn) to CALL(sigreturn) near the bottom of > : the file. > > I hadn't the time to check yet, because I need to recheckout the lib > source before. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 15:48:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2C037B416 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:48:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB9NmEa45088; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:48:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB9Nmbtx091429; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:48:37 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB9NmbW03810; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:48:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB9NmRG10110; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:48:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:48:26 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: failure to make release with DOCs Message-ID: <20011210004826.L7042@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011209211655.A61634@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011209233411.K7042@cicely8.cicely.de> <20011209234502.A62124@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011209234502.A62124@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:45:02PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:34:11PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 09:16:55PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Anybody tried building a RELENG_4 release *with* docs enabled > > > recently? NODOC=YES worked fine for me, but now I tried to > > > build the docs as well. As part of that process half a truckload > > > of ports need to be built. And that seems to fail: > > > > There is a small problem with pthreads on stable: > > bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> cat test.c > > int > > main () { > > return 0; > > } > > bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> gcc -o test test.c -pthread > > /usr/lib/libc_r.so: undefined reference to `_thread_sys_sigreturn' > > Exit 1 > > Duh.. > > /me has no clue about this threads stuff. I assume this is something > that is mandatory to be fixed before 4.5 can be rolled? Absolutely yes - non working pthreads excludes a mass of ports. I just tried Daniels fix myself, have found it working and will answer him now so it gets commited. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 9 23:50:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3034937B41B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBA7oEK59539 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:50:14 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 066A91E02; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:48:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id B111E18601 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:48:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:48:56 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, is it a good or bad thing to build stable with specific CPU options ?? I noticed I have some strange trouble with system programs built adding mcpu=ev56 in make.conf thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 0:52: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A9037B41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBA8pXG40931; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:51:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:51:33 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option Message-ID: <20011210005133.A40859@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 08:48:56AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 08:48:56AM +0100, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > is it a good or bad thing to build stable with specific CPU options ?? Good. > I noticed I have some strange trouble with system programs built adding > mcpu=ev56 in make.conf Details? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 1: 5:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BBFE37B620 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 01:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:04:53 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:04:44 +0100 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Subject: Undefined references in libc_r Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm running 4.4-STABLE on an ev56 (21164A/164LX). After having a lot of trouble with different ports failing configuration and build, I've tracked down the problem to be libc_r. An example is glib-1.2.10. It fails configuration with this message: libc_r: undefined reference: _sys_thread_sigreturn Other ports have similar problems, but with different undefined references (such as pthread_create, e.g.). I've tried to delete /usr/src/lib/libc_r and cvsup it again, but it didn't help. Could it be a problem that I have libpthread.so and libpthreads.so installed as part of the OSF1 compat kit? I tried to rename them and then build glib, but it didn't help. Any help would be greatly appreciated. - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 1:36:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C9637B416 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 01:36:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fBA9aBx49900; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:36:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBA9aLtx094631; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:36:21 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBA9aLW04794; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:36:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBA9aKX11530; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:36:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:36:20 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Message-ID: <20011210103619.A11508@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:04:44AM +0100, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running 4.4-STABLE on an ev56 (21164A/164LX). > > After having a lot of trouble with different ports failing > configuration and build, I've tracked down the problem to > be libc_r. > > An example is glib-1.2.10. It fails configuration > with this message: > libc_r: undefined reference: _sys_thread_sigreturn > > Other ports have similar problems, but with different undefined > references (such as pthread_create, e.g.). > > I've tried to delete /usr/src/lib/libc_r and cvsup it again, > but it didn't help. You also need to update libc source as the fix is there. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 2:30:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBF037B416 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 02:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBAAU0B64238; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:30:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:30:00 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Message-ID: <20011210113000.A64210@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:04:44AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:04:44AM +0100, Idar Tollefsen wrote: I suggest filing a critical PR (using send-pr) to track this one. You are not alone with this problem.. And it needs to be fixed before 4.5R is done Wilko > Hello, > > I'm running 4.4-STABLE on an ev56 (21164A/164LX). > > After having a lot of trouble with different ports failing > configuration and build, I've tracked down the problem to > be libc_r. > > An example is glib-1.2.10. It fails configuration > with this message: > libc_r: undefined reference: _sys_thread_sigreturn > > Other ports have similar problems, but with different undefined > references (such as pthread_create, e.g.). > > I've tried to delete /usr/src/lib/libc_r and cvsup it again, > but it didn't help. > > Could it be a problem that I have libpthread.so and libpthreads.so > installed as part of the OSF1 compat kit? I tried to rename them and > then build glib, but it didn't help. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > - IT > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 2:41:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98F9237B416 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 02:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:41:14 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:40:46 +0100 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> I'm running 4.4-STABLE on an ev56 (21164A/164LX). >>=20 >> After having a lot of trouble with different ports failing >> configuration and build, I've tracked down the problem to >> be libc_r. >>=20 >> An example is glib-1.2.10. It fails configuration >> with this message: >> libc_r: undefined reference: _sys_thread_sigreturn >>=20 >> Other ports have similar problems, but with different undefined >> references (such as pthread_create, e.g.). >>=20 >> I've tried to delete /usr/src/lib/libc_r and cvsup it again, >> but it didn't help. > You also need to update libc source as the fix is there. I'll remove /usr/src/lib/libc and get it again then. I don't see how that will make any difference tough. If there was a fix in there, or any other activity, I should catch it trough a normal cvsup, shouldn't I? Or are you implying that someone managed to check in a file without changing it's version number? - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 4:10:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2998037B416 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 04:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fBACACY50902; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBABhetx095395; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:43:40 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBABhdW04884; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:43:39 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBABhdS11780; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:43:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:43:39 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Message-ID: <20011210124338.A11774@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:40:46AM +0100, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > >> I'm running 4.4-STABLE on an ev56 (21164A/164LX). > >> > >> After having a lot of trouble with different ports failing > >> configuration and build, I've tracked down the problem to > >> be libc_r. > >> > >> An example is glib-1.2.10. It fails configuration > >> with this message: > >> libc_r: undefined reference: _sys_thread_sigreturn > >> > >> Other ports have similar problems, but with different undefined > >> references (such as pthread_create, e.g.). > >> > >> I've tried to delete /usr/src/lib/libc_r and cvsup it again, > >> but it didn't help. > > > You also need to update libc source as the fix is there. > > I'll remove /usr/src/lib/libc and get it again then. > > I don't see how that will make any difference tough. > If there was a fix in there, or any other activity, I should catch > it trough a normal cvsup, shouldn't I? Or are you implying that > someone managed to check in a file without changing it's > version number? I tought you had only updated libc_r - there is no need to delete with cvsup. Looks like you simply missed it with your last try. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 4:10:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734B237B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 04:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fBACAOg50903; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:10:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBABj7tx095415; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:45:07 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBABj6W04888; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:45:07 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBABj6O11804; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:45:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:45:06 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Idar Tollefsen , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Message-ID: <20011210124505.B11774@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011210113000.A64210@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011210113000.A64210@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:30:00AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:04:44AM +0100, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > > I suggest filing a critical PR (using send-pr) to track this > one. You are not alone with this problem.. And it needs to > be fixed before 4.5R is done The fix got already commited. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 5:26:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0731637B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBADQPS64703; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:26:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:26:25 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bernd Walter Cc: Idar Tollefsen , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Message-ID: <20011210142625.A64686@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011210113000.A64210@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011210124505.B11774@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011210124505.B11774@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:45:06PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:45:06PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:30:00AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:04:44AM +0100, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > > > > I suggest filing a critical PR (using send-pr) to track this > > one. You are not alone with this problem.. And it needs to > > be fixed before 4.5R is done > > The fix got already commited. > I noticed a bit too late :/ -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 7:48:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A5037B416; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBAFmcK71602; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:48:38 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E250B1E02; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:47:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BE318601; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:47:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:47:19 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Subject: Re: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option In-Reply-To: <20011210005133.A40859@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sorry, I just was trying to find out what it can be the cause of my ppp program crashing... since I added mcpu=ev56 in make.conf and I installed STABLE I was wondering if -mcpu=ev56 could be a problem. Anyway ppp crashes when ppp_nat is enabled and trying to look the core with gdb it finds the problem in the libalias routines. ppp crashes if I connect to the Internet from my LAN At home using my MIATA as a gateway (ADSL). If I disable ppp_nat everything works fine and it won't crash. I Also noticed ppp crashes always when I make web browsing on some particular www site, it does not crash for every connection I make from my internal LAN. IR happens randomly and this is terrible, I have to restart ppp every time to reconnect via ADSL. I Actually did a sh script which restarts ppp everytime it crashes but it is a poor solution... thank you a lot for your interest Rick On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:51:33 -0800 > From: David O'Brien > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 08:48:56AM +0100, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > is it a good or bad thing to build stable with specific CPU options ?? > > Good. > > > I noticed I have some strange trouble with system programs built adding > > mcpu=ev56 in make.conf > > Details? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 9:42:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB3E737B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:41:57 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:41:52 +0100 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rick, > I experienced it too building xms, I Wanted to open divx on FreeBSD, but > the build did build, same error: libc_r: undefined reference: _sys_thread= _sigreturn According to Wilko Bulte, it was a problem in libc. A fix is supposed to have been commited. I've just cvsup'ed and I did get some updates in /usr/src/lib/libc. I'm building world as we speak. I'll report tomorrow how it went (I have to get home now). - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 10:20:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8EE37B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBAIKRJ65364; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:20:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:20:27 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Message-ID: <20011210192027.B65310@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:41:52PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:41:52PM +0100, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > Rick, > > > I experienced it too building xms, I Wanted to open divx on FreeBSD, but > > the build did build, same error: libc_r: undefined reference: _sys_thread_sigreturn > > According to Wilko Bulte, it was a problem in libc. A fix is supposed Actually is was Bernd Walter. > to have been commited. I've just cvsup'ed and I did get some updates > in /usr/src/lib/libc. I'm building world as we speak. I'll report tomorrow > how it went (I have to get home now). My buildworld went fine. I am now doing a 'make release' W/ -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 11:40:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25A037B43F; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBAJeJK75939; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:40:20 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 85F1C1E02; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:39:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219D718601; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:39:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:39:00 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Cc: "David O'Brien" , Subject: Re: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I ssh right now from inside my LAN using natted PPP (ADSL connection) here is the result ppp.core Dec 10 20:33:58 durlindana /kernel: pid 778 (ppp), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) gdb cannot do anything with it it tells it can't trace back. it looks like to be a ppp bug. First attempt to make a connection from inside the firewall and ppp nat crashes. I had to restart PPP. Now it is working but it can crash any time :( any ideas? thanks Rick On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:47:19 +0100 (CET) > From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > To: David O'Brien > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option > > > sorry, I just was trying to find out what it can be the cause of my ppp > program crashing... since I added > mcpu=ev56 in make.conf and I installed STABLE I was wondering if > -mcpu=ev56 could be a problem. > Anyway ppp crashes when ppp_nat is enabled and trying to look the core > with gdb it finds the problem in the libalias routines. > ppp crashes if I connect to the Internet from my LAN At home using my > MIATA as a gateway (ADSL). If I disable ppp_nat everything works fine and > it won't crash. I Also noticed ppp crashes always when I make web > browsing on some particular www site, it does not crash for every connection > I make from my internal LAN. IR happens randomly and this is terrible, I > have to restart ppp every time to reconnect via ADSL. I Actually did a sh > script which restarts ppp everytime it crashes but it is a poor > solution... > > thank you a lot for your interest > > Rick > > > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:51:33 -0800 > > From: David O'Brien > > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 08:48:56AM +0100, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > > is it a good or bad thing to build stable with specific CPU options ?? > > > > Good. > > > > > I noticed I have some strange trouble with system programs built adding > > > mcpu=ev56 in make.conf > > > > Details? > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 13: 7:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4799B37B416 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBAL7SK76786 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:07:28 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4F8731E02; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:06:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DE418601 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:06:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:06:08 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: PPP bug?? I think it's something urgent. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have ppp crashing (Core dumps) when it is in tun mode and only in tun mode it crashes. It will crash when a connection from the inside LAN goes thru the gateway to the external Internet. THe gateway is connected to internet with an ADSL PPP connection (PPPoE). It's not possible for me to backtrace looking the core dump with gdb, it does not work. I have 2 NICs, dc0 and fxp0. dc0 is the external one used by tun0, fxp0 is the one in my lan side. If I open a web browser or a ssh connection from my inside LAN To outside ppp will crash from time to time. It can crash several times in 1 hour... so much that it is giving me a lots of troubles. I have 4.4-STABLE dated 7 December. here is my rc.conf: #PPPoE for ADSL ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="ddial" ppp_nat="YES" gateway_enable="YES" ipfilter_enable="YES" ipfilter_flags="-E" ipfilter_program="/sbin/ipf" ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" ipnat_enable="YES" ipnat_flags="-CF" ipnat_program="/sbin/ipnat" ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" here is my ipf.rules block return-rst in quick proto tcp from any to any port = 6000 pass in all pass out all here is my ipnat.rules map tun0 172.16.16.0/24 -> x.y.z.w/32 # x.y.z.w being my IP assigned me by the ISP here is ppp.conf default: set device PPPoE:dc0 set speed sync set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set authname xxx set authkey xxx set log local Phase tun command debug set dial set login delete all add default HISADDR enable dns nat enable yes #iface-alias enable no papchap: set authname xxx set authkey xxx I hope someone could give me some hints. thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 13:15:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CDF37B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05314; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fBALExK14421; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:14:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15381.9683.496533.896159@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:14:59 -0500 (EST) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Reply-To: trimyourccs@loopback.net Subject: Re: PPP bug?? I think it's something urgent. In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > ADSL PPP connection (PPPoE). It's not possible for me to backtrace looking > the core dump with gdb, it does not work. > I don't suppose that you've rebuilt ppp with symbols? (eg, added -g to the CFLAGS when building ppp). One you've done this, please go into more detail than "[gdb] does not work". Supply an exact transcript. Make sure you do "info registers" and "info frame" in addition to "backtrace" Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 14:13:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.fortean.com (nemesis.fortean.com [209.42.194.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8C937B419 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:13:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nemesis.fortean.com (nemesis.fortean.com [209.42.194.41]) by nemesis.fortean.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA11230 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:13:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:13:12 -0500 (EST) From: Rich Bud To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ifconfig gives unaligned access with faith driver Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the 'minor annoyance at best (worst?)' category, i rebuilt stable over the weekend and ifconfig now gives unaligned access errors when it hits the faith interface. All the other interfaces are fine. gdb gives: ======= (gdb) status (afp=0x12003dc98, addrcount=0, sdl=0x6f722f3d454d4f48, ifm=0x12006a4cc, ifam=0x0) at /usr/src/sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.c:1120 1120 if (ifm->ifm_data.ifi_metric) (gdb) pid 711 (ifconfig): unaligned access: va=0x12006a4ec pc=0x12000215c ra=0x120002150 op=ldq 1122 if (ifm->ifm_data.ifi_mtu) (gdb) pid 711 (ifconfig): unaligned access: va=0x12006a4e4 pc=0x120002178 ra=0x120002150 op=ldq 1123 printf(" mtu %ld", ifm->ifm_data.ifi_mtu); (gdb) faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 ======= I checked back and the previous version of ifconfig.c had local integer vars for metric and mtu, and printed to '%d'. ifm_data is struct if_data and defined, and ifi_metric = 0 and ifi_mtu = 1500, both u_long...so i don't see the problem. Is it even valid to step through gdb and wait for the kernel to pop the error messages? If not, do i plug in va,pc,ra or op somewhere to track unaligned accesses down? Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 16:21:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta02.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF1837B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20011211002055.CQBH19732.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:20:55 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011211111801.0372c910@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:18:59 +1100 To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it From: Rob B Subject: Re: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option Cc: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 18:48 10/12/2001, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it sent this up the stick: >Hello, >is it a good or bad thing to build stable with specific CPU options ?? >I noticed I have some strange trouble with system programs built adding >mcpu=ev56 in make.conf I use that exact option, and notice nothing out of the ordinary. The only copmiler setting that make lots of noise is using the -O2 or higher setting Cheers, Rob -- Delicious and nutritious, tastes like chicken! [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian This is random quote 324 of a collection of 1191 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 16:42:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F209437B422 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10420; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fBB0frB15043; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:41:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15381.22096.993339.435960@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:41:52 -0500 (EST) To: Rich Bud Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig gives unaligned access with faith driver In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rich Bud writes: > kernel to pop the error messages? If not, do i plug in va,pc,ra or op > somewhere to track unaligned accesses down? > Run uac -s in the shell you're debugging from, then run ifconfig under gdb. The program should die with a sigbus at the site of the unaligned access trap. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 16:52:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC2237B41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17173 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2001 00:52:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Dec 2001 00:52:26 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15381.22096.993339.435960@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:52:23 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: ifconfig gives unaligned access with faith driver Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, Rich Bud Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11-Dec-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Rich Bud writes: > > > kernel to pop the error messages? If not, do i plug in va,pc,ra or op > > somewhere to track unaligned accesses down? > > > > Run uac -s in the shell you're debugging from, then run ifconfig under > gdb. The program should die with a sigbus at the site of the > unaligned access trap. Compiling with -Wcast-align might help track down problems as well. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 20:42:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6279637B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28024; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:41:46 +1100 (EDT) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01KBQWOIQPAO4M34S1@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:41:29 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBB4fcr80731; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:41:38 +1100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:41:38 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: How to enable logging of machine checks? In-reply-to: ; from jakari@bithose.com on Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 04:44:38PM -0500 To: Jameel Akari Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Jameel Akari , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20011211154137.A73243@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20011210072424.B63990@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-Dec-09 16:44:38 -0500, Jameel Akari wrote: >On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Peter Jeremy wrote: >> And, based on my decoding of the LCA memory interface, the L2 cache ECC >> is disabled by default. > > Hmm... odd. Whatever messages I saw were about ECC traps, and >obviously if the cache ECC was off, the machine would have died. The Multia supports ECC on both the RAM and cache - both of which can be separately enabled/disabled. By my reading of the LCA datasheet, combined with what SRM displays as the register values, the RAM ECC is on but the cache ECC is off. Possible explanations: - Your ECC errors were RAM not cache. Though I can't explain why the 74F623 would affect this. - We are running different SRM's - I'm running BL5 V3.8-3 - I've misread the datasheet. - The LCA doesn't match the datasheet. For anyone else who wants to play, the L2 cache control register is at physical address 0x120000078. The low 16 bits are the relevant ones. By default the SRM sets it to 0x1141. Other useful values are: 0x1140 - Disables L2 cache. Note that this will probably make the SRM reboot since it's a write-back cache. I found that the updated value made it through that reboot and everything else worked OK. 0x1155 - Enable L2 cache ECC and tag parity. (I have no idea why the SRM doesn't do this by default). 0x1255 - Enable L2 cache ECC and tag parity. Increase L2 reads by 1 cycle. BTW, you can get free samples of SN74ABT623DW from TI at http://www.ti.com/sc/docs/products/logic/sn74abt623.html#Pricing_Samples This is a drop-in replacement for the 74F623 and will run cooler. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 23:25:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA11F37B417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBB7Phf68537; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:25:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:25:43 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Message-ID: <20011211082543.B68488@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:41:52PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 06:41:52PM +0100, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > Rick, > > > I experienced it too building xms, I Wanted to open divx on FreeBSD, but > > the build did build, same error: libc_r: undefined reference: _sys_thread_sigreturn > > According to Wilko Bulte, it was a problem in libc. A fix is supposed > to have been commited. I've just cvsup'ed and I did get some updates > in /usr/src/lib/libc. I'm building world as we speak. I'll report tomorrow > how it went (I have to get home now). Make release with docs now also ran to completion without errors. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 23:26:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1C837B417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBB7QY568560; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:26:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:26:34 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Rob B Cc: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: building stable with mcpu=ev56 option Message-ID: <20011211082634.C68488@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011211111801.0372c910@pop.ozemail.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011211111801.0372c910@pop.ozemail.com.au>; from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:18:59AM +1100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:18:59AM +1100, Rob B wrote: > At 18:48 10/12/2001, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it sent this up the stick: > > >Hello, > >is it a good or bad thing to build stable with specific CPU options ?? > >I noticed I have some strange trouble with system programs built adding > >mcpu=ev56 in make.conf > > I use that exact option, and notice nothing out of the ordinary. The only > copmiler setting that make lots of noise is using the -O2 or higher setting Make that: results in buggy binaries. Don't use O2 on Alpha -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 10 23:27: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB2937B417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBB7QxI68579; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:26:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:26:59 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bernd Walter Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: failure to make release with DOCs Message-ID: <20011211082659.D68488@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011209211655.A61634@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011209233411.K7042@cicely8.cicely.de> <20011209234502.A62124@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011210004826.L7042@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011210004826.L7042@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:48:26AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:48:26AM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:45:02PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:34:11PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 09:16:55PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Anybody tried building a RELENG_4 release *with* docs enabled > > > > recently? NODOC=YES worked fine for me, but now I tried to > > > > build the docs as well. As part of that process half a truckload > > > > of ports need to be built. And that seems to fail: > > > > > > There is a small problem with pthreads on stable: > > > bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> cat test.c > > > int > > > main () { > > > return 0; > > > } > > > bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> gcc -o test test.c -pthread > > > /usr/lib/libc_r.so: undefined reference to `_thread_sys_sigreturn' > > > Exit 1 > > > > Duh.. > > > > /me has no clue about this threads stuff. I assume this is something > > that is mandatory to be fixed before 4.5 can be rolled? > > Absolutely yes - non working pthreads excludes a mass of ports. > I just tried Daniels fix myself, have found it working and will answer > him now so it gets commited. make release on stable now ran OK. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 0:43:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7395037B416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:43:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBB8hSK83432; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:43:28 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C76351E02; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:42:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C9318601; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:42:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:42:06 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Rich Bud , Subject: Re: ifconfig gives unaligned access with faith driver In-Reply-To: <15381.22096.993339.435960@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org very nice this uac program! here is hte result I got from the ifconfig.core Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. #0 status (afp=0x12003e538, addrcount=2, sdl=0x30312e3534312e34, ifm=0x12006c134, ifam=0x12006c214) at ifconfig.c:1148 1148 if (allfamilies || afp->af_status == ether_status) (gdb) bt #0 status (afp=0x12003e538, addrcount=2, sdl=0x30312e3534312e34, ifm=0x12006c134, ifam=0x12006c214) at ifconfig.c:1148 #1 0x120000cbc in main (argc=0, argv=0x12006c134) at ifconfig.c:633 (gdb) info registers v0 0xa 10 t0 0x120070038 4832297016 t1 0x3e5453414349544c 4491306268162085964 t2 0x5453414349544c 23735437810553932 t3 0x120056958 4832192856 t4 0x2c 44 t5 0x0 0 t6 0x3d736761 1030973281 t7 0xa6576693d736761 749135107401672545 s0 0x12006c214 4832281108 s1 0x12003e538 4832093496 s2 0x3 3 s3 0x0 0 s4 0x2 2 s5 0x1 1 fp 0x12006c134 4832280884 a0 0x54 84 a1 0x0 0 a2 0x4 4 a3 0x11ffb49c 301970588 a4 0x120070010 4832296976 a5 0x0 0 t8 0x0 0 t9 0x0 0 t10 0x0 0 t11 0x0 0 ra 0x1200022b0 4831847088 t12 0x120034800 4832053248 at 0x120056b80 4832193408 gp 0x12005ef28 4832227112 sp 0x11ffb658 301971032 zero 0x0 0 pc 0x1200022bc 4831847100 vfp 0x11ffba28 301972008 (gdb) info frame Stack level 0, frame at 0x11ffba28: pc = 0x1200022bc in status (ifconfig.c:1148); saved pc 0x120000cbc called by frame at 0x11ffbae8 source language c. frame pointer is at sp+976 Arglist at 0x11ffb9f8, args: afp=0x12003e538, addrcount=2, sdl=0x30312e3534312e34, ifm=0x12006c134, ifam=0x12006c214 Locals at 0x11ffba28, Previous frame's sp is 0x11ffba28 Saved registers: s0 at 0x11ffb660, s1 at 0x11ffb668, s2 at 0x11ffb670, s3 at 0x11ffb678, s4 at 0x11ffb680, s5 at 0x11ffb688, fp at 0x11ffb690, ra at 0x11ffb658, pc at 0x11ffb658 I hope this can be useful ciao Rick On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:41:52 -0500 (EST) > From: Andrew Gallatin > To: Rich Bud > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ifconfig gives unaligned access with faith driver > > > Rich Bud writes: > > > kernel to pop the error messages? If not, do i plug in va,pc,ra or op > > somewhere to track unaligned accesses down? > > > > Run uac -s in the shell you're debugging from, then run ifconfig under > gdb. The program should die with a sigbus at the site of the > unaligned access trap. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 0:48: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4791737B416; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBB8loK83536; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:47:50 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D4DEE1E02; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:46:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8520418601; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:46:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:46:29 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: John Baldwin Cc: Andrew Gallatin , , Rich Bud Subject: Re: ifconfig gives unaligned access with faith driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In my case ifconfig reports unaligned access on dc0 and fxp0 the 2 NICs dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::200:f8ff:fe75:81c0%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:00:f8:75:81:c0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active pid 14068 (ifconfig): unaligned access: va=0x12006c154 pc=0x1200022bc ra=0x1200022b0 op=ldq pid 14068 (ifconfig): unaligned access: va=0x12006c14c pc=0x1200022d8 ra=0x1200022b0 op=ldq fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 172.16.16.254 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.16.255 inet6 fe80::202:b3ff:fe2b:2591%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:02:b3:2b:25:91 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active pid 14068 (ifconfig): unaligned access: va=0x12006c2c4 pc=0x1200022bc ra=0x1200022b0 op=ldq pid 14068 (ifconfig): unaligned access: va=0x12006c2bc pc=0x1200022d8 ra=0x1200022b0 op=ldq Rick On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:52:23 -0800 (PST) > From: John Baldwin > To: Andrew Gallatin > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, Rich Bud > Subject: Re: ifconfig gives unaligned access with faith driver > > > On 11-Dec-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Rich Bud writes: > > > > > kernel to pop the error messages? If not, do i plug in va,pc,ra or op > > > somewhere to track unaligned accesses down? > > > > > > > Run uac -s in the shell you're debugging from, then run ifconfig under > > gdb. The program should die with a sigbus at the site of the > > unaligned access trap. > > Compiling with -Wcast-align might help track down problems as well. > > -- > > John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 1:22:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C680E37B623 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:21:52 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:21:44 +0100 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Cc: , , Subject: Re: Undefined references in libc_r Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Make release with docs now also ran to completion without errors. YES! It works! :-)) Finally. Thanks for all help, I appreciated it. - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 1:28:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61F537B417; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBB9SIW69009; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:28:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:28:18 +0100 From: "'Wilko Bulte'" To: Mike Smith Cc: Thomas Kovacs , "'Andrew Gallatin'" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing Message-ID: <20011211102818.C68844@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <000001c180e8$53f68f40$0100a8c0@rebecca> <200112092016.fB9KGbe01141@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112092016.fB9KGbe01141@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 12:16:37PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 12:16:37PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: Assuming that this does not get fixed for 4.5R: should this be rel-noted maybe? Is it x86 and alpha, meaning is it MI or MD? W/ > Bug(s) in the Mylex driver. Matthew Dodd has my controllers, so I can't > fix this, sorry. Pester him; he was going to maintain this driver. 8( > > > > Ok. I tried your build. The Mylex is being recognised. Disklabel is > > writing information's onto the disks and the "partitions" (sorry, still > > thinking in NT...) where successfully created. Then I choose "minimal" > > and the installation starts. And now to the part, where I was nearly > > started crying: > > > > - the copy process gets slower and slower > > - it seems like the machine freezes > > > > when I opened the console "alt+f2" I saw this nice messages: > > > > -> mlx0: I/O error - attempt to write beyond end of drive > > > > I updated the Mylex bios to 2.7 (3.xx would work but I don't know by now > > where to get this 2nd chip...) I went back to NT console and installed > > it. It worked... > > Restarted the FreeBSD installation. Same error. > > > > Any ideas??? > > > > Thx, Thomas > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG] Im Auftrag von Wilko Bulte > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2001 23:54 > > An: Andrew Gallatin; obrien@FreeBSD.ORG > > Cc: Thomas Kovacs; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing > > > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 09:51:32PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > Thomas Kovacs writes: > > > > > Me again... > > > > >=20 > > > > > Back from holydays I tried to install FreeBSD on the alpha > > (AS2100 > > > > > 5/300). As I said before, I was able to boot. But with your disks > > the > > > > > system is not recognizing my CD drive :( . Unfortunately the ftp > > > >=20 > > > > > > > I'm willing to send out some fine German Christmas beer (strong, > > but > > > > > good :). > > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Wilko mentioned something about building an alpha snapshot last > > week. > > > > Perhaps he could post the install floppies.. That would be the > > > > easiest thing. > > >=20 > > > I built a snapshot, after David trimmed the bootfloppy kernel > > (again..) > > > that worked OK. I'm waiting for David to tell me where he wants the > > > snapshot to go (it is destined for ftp-master I think). > > > > For now it (the miniinst.iso; disc2.iso is still uploading) is as > > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snap > > > > I'm waiting for David's input on how to get it on ftp-master. > > > > Wilko > > [who likes German beer BTW ;) ] > > --=20 > > | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands=09 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > -- > ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his > rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want > to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force > people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E > ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 6:29:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from poptart.bithose.com (poptart.bithose.com [208.171.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A6F37B416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 06:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jakari@localhost) by poptart.bithose.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBBETJ956296; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:29:19 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: poptart.bithose.com: jakari owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:29:19 -0500 (EST) From: Jameel Akari To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Subject: Re: How to enable logging of machine checks? In-Reply-To: <20011211154137.A73243@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2001-Dec-09 16:44:38 -0500, Jameel Akari wrote: > >On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >> And, based on my decoding of the LCA memory interface, the L2 cache ECC > >> is disabled by default. > - Your ECC errors were RAM not cache. Though I can't explain why the > 74F623 would affect this. I'll have to burn the thing for a few hours to find out. > - We are running different SRM's - I'm running BL5 V3.8-3 At the time I was running Linux under ARC, which might set the control registers differently. I'll keep your note and play with it later this week. I *think* that the SRM on there might be the original as-shipped revision. > BTW, you can get free samples of SN74ABT623DW from TI at > http://www.ti.com/sc/docs/products/logic/sn74abt623.html#Pricing_Samples > This is a drop-in replacement for the 74F623 and will run cooler. I love free samples... I can't help but to think my sample orders single-handedly led to NatSemi sinking into the red. ;) I wish I could afford to ditch the Multias entirely and play with FreeBSD on my PWS500, but that runs Tru64 too well for me to mess with. #!/jameel/akari for zig in $(find / -name zig); do rm -f "$zig"; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 7: 9:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from switch2.switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD8437B405 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by switch2.switchpwr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBBF2tD15198 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:02:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C161FDC.1E22C4CF@switchpwr.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:01:48 -0500 From: mel kravitz Organization: switching power inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.38 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4 install on DS10L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just to let you know that 4.4 out of the box, installs on the DS10L with a 3X-DEPVZAA combo pci card. This is a triple function , 3Dlabs/SCSI/ethernet adapter card. -Mel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 8:42: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A76F37B416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBBGfux70438 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:41:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:41:56 +0100 From: "'Wilko Bulte'" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: FW: Machine check AS2100 Message-ID: <20011211174156.A70419@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In case any other 2100 owner needs assistance. ----- Forwarded message from Roberto de Iriarte ----- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:36:41 -0300 From: Roberto de Iriarte Subject: Machine check AS2100 To: "'Wilko Bulte'" Im sorry not to be able to write to the list (my MTA is somewhat broken and my messages get rejected by the list), i am certain that Tomas' s problems are related directly to the firmware revision on the Mylex and the problems of the ARC based upgrade programm (that has never upgraded anything by me ...) I am trying to help Thomas as i own a very close config as he does and have it working OK for several weeks (No crashes, no bugs) Running -stable I even got the very complex Courier MTA to compile and run OK. (it will replace my current MTA, running on the 2100A) So after a few install problems i'd say 2100's and 2100A's with Mylex are a definitely working and practical proposition I am willing to write a HOWTO on 2100 and 2100A if you are willing to correct my english.... Please forward to interested parties (Andrew, and others) ----- End forwarded message ----- -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 11:23:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B8137B405 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.134.6]) by gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.9.1/8.9.1/TechFak/pk+ro20010720) with SMTP id UAA07700 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:23:23 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Schonefeld Received: by mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (SMI-8.6/pk19971205) id UAA09505; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:23:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:23:23 +0100 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Q: SCSI controller suggestion? Message-ID: <20011211202323.A9485@mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Zen: Oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello -alpha, which scsi controller (preferable UW or "better") is known to be working with freebsd-alpha? I need a controller which supports booting from SRM. Any suggestions? Regards, Oliver P.S. Please reply directly, since I am not on the freebsd-alpha list (yet) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 12: 2:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452FA37B416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBBK2MK97219; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:02:22 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1E741E02; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:01:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B5F18601; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:01:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:00:59 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: , Subject: Re: PPP bug?? I think it's something urgent. In-Reply-To: <15381.9683.496533.896159@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I finally have something more about ppp ,it is really a bug and I can reproduce it. First of all it crashes the very first time I initialize a nat connection. That is if I restart ppp after it crashes it won't crash anymore until there are active sessions. When the active sessions list is empty if I open a new nat session it will crash: durlindana# ipnat -l List of active MAP/Redirect filters: map tun0 172.16.16.0/24 -> 80.116.y.x/32 List of active sessions: (empty) now the active session list is empty and ppp did crash. Here is what gdb reported (gdb ./ppp -c ./ppp.core): (gdb) bt Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmd.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libutil.so.3...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libalias.so.4...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libradius.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnetgraph.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.4...done. Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. #0 0x16013a714 in AliasHandleUdpNbt () from /usr/lib/libalias.so.4 #1 0x16013af00 in AliasHandleUdpNbtNS () from /usr/lib/libalias.so.4 warning: Hit heuristic-fence-post without finding warning: enclosing function for address 0x890004187450 This warning occurs if you are debugging a function without any symbols (for example, in a stripped executable). In that case, you may wish to increase the size of the search with the `set heuristic-fence-post' command. Otherwise, you told GDB there was a function where there isn't one, or (more likely) you have encountered a bug in GDB. I built PPP with symbols (-g). So I don;t really know what to do.... this ppp problem is really a BIG problem, at least for me which I ahev to restart it over and over often every day. I did a script which did it but the problem is that a new dynamic IP is assigned to me every time and this is really a mess for me. thanks sorry for boring you. Rick On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:14:59 -0500 (EST) > From: Andrew Gallatin > Reply-To: trimyourccs@loopback.net > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: PPP bug?? I think it's something urgent. > > > Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > ADSL PPP connection (PPPoE). It's not possible for me to backtrace looking > > the core dump with gdb, it does not work. > > > > > I don't suppose that you've rebuilt ppp with symbols? (eg, added -g > to the CFLAGS when building ppp). > > One you've done this, please go into more detail than "[gdb] does not > work". Supply an exact transcript. Make sure you do "info registers" > and "info frame" in addition to "backtrace" > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 18:11: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C351F37B416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBC2Avl26763; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:10:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:10:57 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Oliver Schonefeld Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: SCSI controller suggestion? Message-ID: <20011211181057.A26742@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20011211202323.A9485@mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011211202323.A9485@mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE>; from oschonef@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 08:23:23PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 08:23:23PM +0100, Oliver Schonefeld wrote: > Hello -alpha, > > which scsi controller (preferable UW or "better") is known to be working with > freebsd-alpha? I need a controller which supports booting from SRM. > Any suggestions? Please send output from SRM 'show conf' cmd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 11 23:48:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21BE37B416; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBC7m5i73712; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:48:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:48:05 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Oliver Schonefeld , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Q: SCSI controller suggestion? Message-ID: <20011212084805.A73691@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011211202323.A9485@mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> <20011211181057.A26742@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011211181057.A26742@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:10:57PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:10:57PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 08:23:23PM +0100, Oliver Schonefeld wrote: > > Hello -alpha, > > > > which scsi controller (preferable UW or "better") is known to be working with > > freebsd-alpha? I need a controller which supports booting from SRM. > > Any suggestions? > > Please send output from SRM 'show conf' cmd. And read the docs for FreeBSD/alpha a bit to get you started. This question really is machine dependent that is why David asks for show conf. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 4:49:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD8F37B41B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.134.6]) by gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.9.1/8.9.1/TechFak/pk+ro20010720) with SMTP id NAA28941; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:49:51 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Schonefeld Received: by mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (SMI-8.6/pk19971205) id NAA11854; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:49:50 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:49:50 +0100 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: SCSI controller suggestion? Message-ID: <20011212134950.A11737@mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Reply-To: Oliver Schonefeld References: <20011211202323.A9485@mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> <20011211181057.A26742@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011212084805.A73691@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20011212084805.A73691@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 08:48:05AM +0100 X-Zen: Oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Eines schoenen Tages schrieb Wilko Bulte: > And read the docs for FreeBSD/alpha a bit to get you started. This > question really is machine dependent that is why David asks for show conf. Ok, sorry. Sould have checked the HARDWARE.TXT before asking the list. As far, as I undersand it, I can put an ordinarly (w/"normal" PC bois) Adaptec 2940 series controller in the machine and, giving SRM version 5.8 is installed, it will recognize the controller and can boot from it, right? (As long, as murphy is on my side) I actually don't have a Board but can get a good deal on a PC164SX w/CPU and have almost all the other Stuff (graphics card, scsi disks, etc) laying around. Regards, Oliver -- -------------------------------------------------------- And remember: "To Infinity And Far Beyond ... Somehow?!" email: oschonef@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de -------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me in your ~/.signature to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 8:11:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF1F37B41B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fBCGBRu83102; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:11:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBCG6Dtx015067; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:06:13 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBCG6CW08421; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:06:12 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBCG69N18660; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:06:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:06:09 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP bug?? I think it's something urgent. Message-ID: <20011212170608.H15654@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <15381.9683.496533.896159@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 09:00:59PM +0100, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > I built PPP with symbols (-g). > So I don;t really know what to do.... this ppp problem is really a BIG > problem, at least for me which I ahev to restart it over and over often > every day. I did a script which did it but the problem is that a new > dynamic IP is assigned to me every time and this is really a mess for me. AFAIK debug symbols are stripped when binaries get installed. You have to give gdb the path to the ppp file in the obj dir. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 10: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3880E37B419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBCI02K31861; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564B237B416 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBCHwct31759; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:58:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112121758.fBCHwct31759@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:58:38 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Swager To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for install on Alpha DS20 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32757 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for install on Alpha DS20 >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 12 10:00:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dave Swager >Release: 4.4 >Organization: Raytheon >Environment: uname unavailable, won't boot. DS20 with 1G RAM, (2) 9G hard drives. >Description: Booting the machine using the install CD gives the following error: fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) a0 = 0x60 a1 = 0x1 a2 = 0x0 pc = 0xfffffc0000521f90 ra = 0xfffffc0000541b88 curproc = 0 This happens with pci_parity set to on or off. >How-To-Repeat: Boot from installer CD on this machine. >Fix: None known. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 13:58:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF54237B417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11655; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fBCLvdI24889; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:57:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15383.53971.863681.746881@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:57:39 -0500 (EST) To: Dave Swager Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for install on Alpha DS20 In-Reply-To: <200112121758.fBCHwct31759@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200112121758.fBCHwct31759@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave Swager writes: > > uname unavailable, won't boot. DS20 with 1G RAM, (2) 9G hard drives. > >Description: > Booting the machine using the install CD gives the following error: > > fatal kernel trap: > > trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > a0 = 0x60 > a1 = 0x1 > a2 = 0x0 > pc = 0xfffffc0000521f90 > ra = 0xfffffc0000541b88 > curproc = 0 Unfortunately, the install kernels are stripped, so I can't see where the crash is happening. Can you provide a few more details, please? Where in the boot process does this happen? A transcript from a serial console would be ideal. It would also be helpful to see the results of the SRM 'show conf' command on this machine. You might also want to try the 4.3 boot floppies to see if there was some sort of regression between 4.3 and 4.4. Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 14: 1: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FBC37B421 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBCM0nB76885; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:00:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:00:49 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Dave Swager , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for install on Alpha DS20 Message-ID: <20011212230049.E76738@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200112121758.fBCHwct31759@freefall.freebsd.org> <15383.53971.863681.746881@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15383.53971.863681.746881@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:57:39PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:57:39PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Dave Swager writes: > > > > uname unavailable, won't boot. DS20 with 1G RAM, (2) 9G hard drives. > > >Description: > > Booting the machine using the install CD gives the following error: > > > > fatal kernel trap: > > > > trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > > a0 = 0x60 > > a1 = 0x1 > > a2 = 0x0 > > pc = 0xfffffc0000521f90 > > ra = 0xfffffc0000541b88 > > curproc = 0 > > Unfortunately, the install kernels are stripped, so I can't see where > the crash is happening. > > Can you provide a few more details, please? Where in the boot process > does this happen? A transcript from a serial console would be ideal. > It would also be helpful to see the results of the SRM 'show conf' > command on this machine. > > You might also want to try the 4.3 boot floppies to see if there was > some sort of regression between 4.3 and 4.4. Really strange. I tested 4.4-RC CDs on our DS20 at work. No problems. Can I also get a SHOW CONF from the SRM? The only thing that stinks on both DS20 and DS10 is access to the floppy. (it still stinks in -stable btw ;-) W/ -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 14:10:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F32A37B405 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27652 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2001 22:10:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2001 22:10:36 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011212230049.E76738@freebie.xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:10:31 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for inst Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Dave Swager , Andrew Gallatin Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-Dec-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:57:39PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >> >> Dave Swager writes: >> > >> > uname unavailable, won't boot. DS20 with 1G RAM, (2) 9G hard drives. >> > >Description: >> > Booting the machine using the install CD gives the following error: >> > >> > fatal kernel trap: >> > >> > trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) >> > a0 = 0x60 >> > a1 = 0x1 >> > a2 = 0x0 >> > pc = 0xfffffc0000521f90 >> > ra = 0xfffffc0000541b88 >> > curproc = 0 >> >> Unfortunately, the install kernels are stripped, so I can't see where >> the crash is happening. >> >> Can you provide a few more details, please? Where in the boot process >> does this happen? A transcript from a serial console would be ideal. >> It would also be helpful to see the results of the SRM 'show conf' >> command on this machine. >> >> You might also want to try the 4.3 boot floppies to see if there was >> some sort of regression between 4.3 and 4.4. > > Really strange. I tested 4.4-RC CDs on our DS20 at work. No problems. > > Can I also get a SHOW CONF from the SRM? > > The only thing that stinks on both DS20 and DS10 is access to the > floppy. (it still stinks in -stable btw ;-) Hmm, I installed 4.4 on the DS20 I have here and it installed fine. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 14:15:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E0637B41B; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBCMFkq77088; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:15:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:15:46 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Dave Swager , Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for inst Message-ID: <20011212231546.A77071@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011212230049.E76738@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:10:31PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:10:31PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 12-Dec-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:57:39PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >> > >> Dave Swager writes: > >> > > >> > uname unavailable, won't boot. DS20 with 1G RAM, (2) 9G hard drives. > >> > >Description: > >> > Booting the machine using the install CD gives the following error: > >> > > >> > fatal kernel trap: > >> > > >> > trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > >> > a0 = 0x60 > >> > a1 = 0x1 > >> > a2 = 0x0 > >> > pc = 0xfffffc0000521f90 > >> > ra = 0xfffffc0000541b88 > >> > curproc = 0 > >> > >> Unfortunately, the install kernels are stripped, so I can't see where > >> the crash is happening. > >> > >> Can you provide a few more details, please? Where in the boot process > >> does this happen? A transcript from a serial console would be ideal. > >> It would also be helpful to see the results of the SRM 'show conf' > >> command on this machine. > >> > >> You might also want to try the 4.3 boot floppies to see if there was > >> some sort of regression between 4.3 and 4.4. > > > > Really strange. I tested 4.4-RC CDs on our DS20 at work. No problems. > > > > Can I also get a SHOW CONF from the SRM? > > > > The only thing that stinks on both DS20 and DS10 is access to the > > floppy. (it still stinks in -stable btw ;-) > > Hmm, I installed 4.4 on the DS20 I have here and it installed fine. Yes, it installed fine for me too. But how is your floppy doing (fdformat, tar, whatever)? -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 14:22:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC6F37B417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12232 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2001 22:22:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2001 22:22:45 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011212231546.A77071@freebie.xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:22:40 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for inst Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Dave Swager , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-Dec-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:10:31PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 12-Dec-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: >> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:57:39PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >> >> >> >> Dave Swager writes: >> >> > >> >> > uname unavailable, won't boot. DS20 with 1G RAM, (2) 9G hard drives. >> >> > >Description: >> >> > Booting the machine using the install CD gives the following error: >> >> > >> >> > fatal kernel trap: >> >> > >> >> > trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) >> >> > a0 = 0x60 >> >> > a1 = 0x1 >> >> > a2 = 0x0 >> >> > pc = 0xfffffc0000521f90 >> >> > ra = 0xfffffc0000541b88 >> >> > curproc = 0 >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, the install kernels are stripped, so I can't see where >> >> the crash is happening. >> >> >> >> Can you provide a few more details, please? Where in the boot process >> >> does this happen? A transcript from a serial console would be ideal. >> >> It would also be helpful to see the results of the SRM 'show conf' >> >> command on this machine. >> >> >> >> You might also want to try the 4.3 boot floppies to see if there was >> >> some sort of regression between 4.3 and 4.4. >> > >> > Really strange. I tested 4.4-RC CDs on our DS20 at work. No problems. >> > >> > Can I also get a SHOW CONF from the SRM? >> > >> > The only thing that stinks on both DS20 and DS10 is access to the >> > floppy. (it still stinks in -stable btw ;-) >> >> Hmm, I installed 4.4 on the DS20 I have here and it installed fine. > > Yes, it installed fine for me too. > > But how is your floppy doing (fdformat, tar, whatever)? Have not tried. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 14:24:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210CC37B41B; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBCMOZW77172; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:24:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:24:35 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Dave Swager , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for inst Message-ID: <20011212232435.A77158@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011212231546.A77071@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:22:40PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:22:40PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 12-Dec-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 02:10:31PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > >> > >> On 12-Dec-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: > >> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:57:39PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Dave Swager writes: .. > >> > Really strange. I tested 4.4-RC CDs on our DS20 at work. No problems. > >> > > >> > Can I also get a SHOW CONF from the SRM? > >> > > >> > The only thing that stinks on both DS20 and DS10 is access to the > >> > floppy. (it still stinks in -stable btw ;-) > >> > >> Hmm, I installed 4.4 on the DS20 I have here and it installed fine. > > > > Yes, it installed fine for me too. > > > > But how is your floppy doing (fdformat, tar, whatever)? > > Have not tried. Please do? ;) -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 12 18:16:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89C037B416; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011213021617.QZHQ5010.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 02:16:17 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBD2GH123095; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:16:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200112130216.fBD2GH123095@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: CFR: More Alpha hardware list updates From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1402247248P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:16:17 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1402247248P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks-- I've completed my changes to remove i386-isms from the supported hardware list from -CURRENT. The goal here is that every architecture's hardware list should only contain hardware that's explicitly supported for that platform; no entry should exist "by default". (Many of the NICs, SCSI controllers, etc. listed in the Alpha hardware list were left over from its i386 origins.) Source material for these changes were wilko's Alpha notes, the -alpha mailing list archives, and alpha kernel configurations I could find. I did a quick sanity check by building a (embryonic) ia64 hardware list. It's a little long for the mailing lists, so I've put a proposed diff, plus PDF and HTML renderings at: http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/alpha/ Comments appreciated. If there's no major problems, I should be able to get all of these (and related changes) MFC-ed in time for 4.5-RELEASE. Thanks, Bruce. --==_Exmh_1402247248P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE8GA9w2MoxcVugUsMRAoW9AKDdiLrh8Ux5F0yBElirJCnQZPbQvgCgoLdE 1K/R2Wl8Wics7XXW+cgbemE= =cjEl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1402247248P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 13 3:26:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4307337B405 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 03:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18882 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 2001 11:26:27 -0000 Received: from p3ee086ef.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO lotti3) (62.224.134.239) by mail.gmx.net (mp011-rz3) with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 11:26:27 -0000 Message-ID: <002801c183c9$80cd2e00$ef86e03e@lotti3> From: "Tobias Lott" To: "freebsd alpha mailing list" Subject: xl 266 really not possible? Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:29:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Disposition-Notification-To: "Tobias Lott" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello there is there no way to install FreeBSD (or any other BSD/linux) on the XL 266 ? Thx a lot Tobias Lott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 13 4:40:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0192837B405 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBDCeRq79957; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:40:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:40:27 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Tobias Lott Cc: freebsd alpha mailing list Subject: Re: xl 266 really not possible? Message-ID: <20011213134027.A79940@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <002801c183c9$80cd2e00$ef86e03e@lotti3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002801c183c9$80cd2e00$ef86e03e@lotti3>; from tlott@gmx.net on Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 12:29:59PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 12:29:59PM +0100, Tobias Lott wrote: This is a FAQ. No *BSD, Tru64, VMS possible on XL. Linux has some way to run on these things, please enquire with the Linux folks (i.e. not here) cheers, Wilko > Hello there > > is there no way to install FreeBSD (or any other BSD/linux) on the XL 266 ? > > Thx a lot > Tobias Lott > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 13 4:46:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1960A37B41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22104 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 2001 12:46:49 -0000 Received: from p3ee086ef.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO lotti3) (62.224.134.239) by mail.gmx.net (mp014-rz3) with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 12:46:49 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01c183d4$ba54a760$ef86e03e@lotti3> From: "Tobias Lott" To: "Wilko Bulte" Cc: "freebsd alpha mailing list" References: <002801c183c9$80cd2e00$ef86e03e@lotti3> <20011213134027.A79940@freebie.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: xl 266 really not possible? Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:50:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Disposition-Notification-To: "Tobias Lott" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :( nahh ok thx so i have to install linux on it, ok much better than windows nt =) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilko Bulte" To: "Tobias Lott" Cc: "freebsd alpha mailing list" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: Re: xl 266 really not possible? > On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 12:29:59PM +0100, Tobias Lott wrote: > > This is a FAQ. No *BSD, Tru64, VMS possible on XL. Linux has some > way to run on these things, please enquire with the Linux folks > (i.e. not here) > > cheers, > Wilko > > > Hello there > > > > is there no way to install FreeBSD (or any other BSD/linux) on the XL 266 ? > > > > Thx a lot > > Tobias Lott > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > ---end of quoted text--- > > -- > | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 13 9:22:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.arc.nasa.gov (pony1.arc.nasa.gov [143.232.48.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2187937B42F for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from waveville.arc.nasa.gov (waveville.arc.nasa.gov [143.232.154.149]) by mail.arc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19331; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:22:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011213091317.00b22348@mail.arc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: dvswager@mail.arc.nasa.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:21:55 -0800 To: Wilko Bulte , Andrew Gallatin From: Dave Swager Subject: Re: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for install on Alpha DS20 Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011212230049.E76738@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15383.53971.863681.746881@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <200112121758.fBCHwct31759@freefall.freebsd.org> <15383.53971.863681.746881@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Turns out I was incorrect on the amount of memory installed on this box. I inherited it from the previous admin., and the numbers he gave me were incorrect. It actually had 4G of RAM, which apparently was what was causing the problem. Kind of embarrassing since that information is clearly displayed as the OS is loading. I removed all but 1G of memory, and the install worked fine. I remember reading somewhere that the install can't use more than some amount of memory. Once everything is installed, can I put the full 4G in there? -Dave At 11:00 PM 12/12/2001 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: >On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:57:39PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Dave Swager writes: > > > > > > uname unavailable, won't boot. DS20 with 1G RAM, (2) 9G hard drives. > > > >Description: > > > Booting the machine using the install CD gives the following error: > > > > > > fatal kernel trap: > > > > > > trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > > > a0 = 0x60 > > > a1 = 0x1 > > > a2 = 0x0 > > > pc = 0xfffffc0000521f90 > > > ra = 0xfffffc0000541b88 > > > curproc = 0 > > > > Unfortunately, the install kernels are stripped, so I can't see where > > the crash is happening. > > > > Can you provide a few more details, please? Where in the boot process > > does this happen? A transcript from a serial console would be ideal. > > It would also be helpful to see the results of the SRM 'show conf' > > command on this machine. > > > > You might also want to try the 4.3 boot floppies to see if there was > > some sort of regression between 4.3 and 4.4. > >Really strange. I tested 4.4-RC CDs on our DS20 at work. No problems. > >Can I also get a SHOW CONF from the SRM? > >The only thing that stinks on both DS20 and DS10 is access to the >floppy. (it still stinks in -stable btw ;-) > >W/ > >-- >| / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org >|/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 13 9:31: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA71B37B416 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06270; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fBDHUVF29613; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:30:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15384.58807.866879.55017@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:30:31 -0500 (EST) To: Dave Swager Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha/32757: fatal kernel trap using generic kernel for install on Alpha DS20 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011213091317.00b22348@mail.arc.nasa.gov> References: <15383.53971.863681.746881@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <200112121758.fBCHwct31759@freefall.freebsd.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011213091317.00b22348@mail.arc.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave Swager writes: > Turns out I was incorrect on the amount of memory installed on this box. I > inherited it from the previous admin., and the numbers he gave me were > incorrect. It actually had 4G of RAM, which apparently was what was > causing the problem. Kind of embarrassing since that information is > clearly displayed as the OS is loading. I removed all but 1G of memory, > and the install worked fine. > > I remember reading somewhere that the install can't use more than some > amount of memory. Once everything is installed, can I put the full 4G in > there? > The highest you can safely go is 2GB. Most FreeBSD drivers don't use busdma, so they must use direct mapped DMA on alpha. We can only make the direct map cover 2GB of ram on this machine. If you upgrade to -stable, you can leave all the RAM in the box & limit FreeBSD to using the lower 2GB via a bootloader option. (maxmem). This is handy if you're dual booting with Tru64 or OVMS. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 13 11: 3:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3B437B428; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBDJ33Y81217; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:03:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:03:03 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CFR: More Alpha hardware list updates Message-ID: <20011213200303.A81110@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200112130216.fBD2GH123095@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112130216.fBD2GH123095@bmah.dyndns.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 06:16:17PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 06:16:17PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > architecture's hardware list should only contain hardware that's > explicitly supported for that platform; no entry should exist "by > default". (Many of the NICs, SCSI controllers, etc. listed in the Great! > Alpha hardware list were left over from its i386 origins.) Right, and that tended to give people heartburn. > Source material for these changes were wilko's Alpha notes, the -alpha > mailing list archives, and alpha kernel configurations I could find. I > did a quick sanity check by building a (embryonic) ia64 hardware list. > > It's a little long for the mailing lists, so I've put a proposed diff, > plus PDF and HTML renderings at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/alpha/ The html rendering complains docboot.css ain't there but I looked at the diff > Comments appreciated. If there's no major problems, I should be able to > get all of these (and related changes) MFC-ed in time for 4.5-RELEASE. - Do you want to make a note about Alpha bootability, or a reference that one should also consult the rest of the Alpha docs? I think that is recommended. - Is + 3ware Escalade ATA RAID really tested on alpha? - This one + AST 4 port serial card using shared IRQ is most likely working on alpha as well. AST4 contains 4 plain 16[45]50 UARTs - This works on alpha too: + ESS ES1868, ES1869, ES1879 and ES1888 (&man.sbc.4; driver) @@ -2068,8 +2070,8 @@ - Builtin USB works on some of the Alphas. Dunno how to write that down in a sensible way. Hth, Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 13 11:55:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF3237B417; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011213195504.OYNI10701.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:55:04 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBDJt1S39049; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200112131955.fBDJt1S39049@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CFR: More Alpha hardware list updates In-Reply-To: <20011213200303.A81110@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200112130216.fBD2GH123095@bmah.dyndns.org> <20011213200303.A81110@freebie.xs4all.nl> Comments: In-reply-to Wilko Bulte message dated "Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:03:03 +0100." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1469322312P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:55:01 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1469322312P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 06:16:17PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Alpha hardware list were left over from its i386 origins.) > > Right, and that tended to give people heartburn. I guess I inherited that when I took this job. :-) > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/alpha/ > > The html rendering complains docboot.css ain't there but I looked at > the diff Oops...fixed. > > Comments appreciated. If there's no major problems, I should be able to > > get all of these (and related changes) MFC-ed in time for 4.5-RELEASE. > > - Do you want to make a note about Alpha bootability, or a reference that > one should also consult the rest of the Alpha docs? I think that is > recommended. Well...when someone reads the hardware notes for the Alpha, they'll see your Alpha-specific section first, then this file. So I'd say we're probably already covered, right? > - Is > > + 3ware Escalade ATA RAID > > really tested on alpha? Urk. Come to think of it, probably not (or at least it didn't turn up on the mailing lists). Don't know how that got there. > - This one > > + AST 4 port serial card using shared IRQ > > is most likely working on alpha as well. AST4 contains 4 plain > 16[45]50 UARTs OK, I can fix that. > - This works on alpha too: > > + ESS > > > ES1868, ES1869, ES1879 and ES1888 (&man.sbc.4; > driver) > @@ -2068,8 +2070,8 @@ > Ditto. > - Builtin USB works on some of the Alphas. Dunno how to write that > down in a sensible way. OK, I will think about that a bit. Thanks for the help! Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1469322312P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD4DBQE8GQeU2MoxcVugUsMRAsYGAJwO+yT4a3VZRfYj9DuVFXslvl2rkQCYjSbA eoO3HObtHlmiFa3jvxlTSg== =uatE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1469322312P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 9:28:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07C937B41D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:28:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fBEHSMV65404 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:28:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBEHSEtx032730 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:28:14 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBEHSDW11738 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:28:14 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBEHS5u25073 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:28:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:28:05 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with kldload linux on -stable Message-ID: <20011214182804.C22150@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org While installing compaq-cc: [...] ===> Patching for linux_base-6.1 ===> Configuring for linux_base-6.1 ===> Installing for linux_base-6.1 Linux mode is not enabled. Loading linux kernel module now... kldload: can't load linux: No such file or directory The linux kernel module could not be loaded. Please enable linux mode manually and retry. *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/ports/emulators/linux_base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/ports/emulators/linux_base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/ports/emulators/linux_base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/ports/lang/compaq-cc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/ports/lang/compaq-cc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /var/ports/lang/compaq-cc. 6.605u 4.752s 0:52.73 21.5% 343+369k 681+0io 75pf+0w Exit 1 bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:/modules# kldload /modules/linux.ko kldload: can't load /modules/linux.ko: No such file or directory Exit 1 bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:/modules# ls -al /modules/linux.ko -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1236830 Dec 2 17:58 /modules/linux.ko bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:~> uname -a FreeBSD srv1.cosmo-project.de 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sun Dec 2 17:25:53 CET 2001 bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:/var/d1/FreeBSD-2001-11-21/src/sys/compile/SRV1 alpha dmesg says: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 10:20:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687A437B405 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09863; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fBEIJgF00569; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:19:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15386.17086.626528.999833@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:19:42 -0500 (EST) To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with kldload linux on -stable In-Reply-To: <20011214182804.C22150@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011214182804.C22150@cicely8.cicely.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter writes: > dmesg says: > link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined kldload osf1 Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 10:25:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBF837B416 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBEIVab01752; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:31:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200112141831.fBEIVab01752@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with kldload linux on -stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:19:42 EST." <15386.17086.626528.999833@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:31:36 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Bernd Walter writes: > > dmesg says: > > link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined > > kldload osf1 You should put a module dependancy in the axp linux_compat module; this should be automatic... -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 10:26:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D10537B405 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fBEIQMl66839; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:26:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBEIQgtx033636; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:26:42 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBEIQgW11829; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:26:42 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBEIQfV25199; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:26:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:26:41 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with kldload linux on -stable Message-ID: <20011214192641.D22150@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011214182804.C22150@cicely8.cicely.de> <15386.17086.626528.999833@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15386.17086.626528.999833@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:19:42PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Bernd Walter writes: > > dmesg says: > > link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined > > kldload osf1 Arg - to stupid. Sorry for the noise. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 10:31:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A27537B419; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10267; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fBEIVKA00587; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:31:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15386.17783.907431.654566@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:31:19 -0500 (EST) To: Mike Smith Cc: Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with kldload linux on -stable In-Reply-To: <200112141831.fBEIVab01752@mass.dis.org> References: <15386.17086.626528.999833@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <200112141831.fBEIVab01752@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith writes: > > > > Bernd Walter writes: > > > dmesg says: > > > link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined > > > > kldload osf1 > > You should put a module dependancy in the axp linux_compat module; this > should be automatic... Its already there, but it doesn't work: MODULE_VERSION(linux, 1); MODULE_DEPEND(linux, osf1, 1, 1, 1); Osf1 has: MODULE_VERSION(osf1, 1); Any suggestions? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 10:49:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3810637B417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBEInDK56042; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:49:13 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F04C21E02; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:15:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7ED18601; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:15:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:15:51 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Subject: Re: PPP bug?? I think it's something urgent. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I found out I was wrong, the ppp core dump problem still exist. Actually I had disabled "nat enable yes" in ppp.conf and I only keep ipnat configuration and it still crashes, I'll try now to disable ipnat and to enable the nat mechanism in ppp.conf to see what happens. thanks bye Rick On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:00:59 +0100 (CET) > From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > To: Andrew Gallatin > Cc: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: PPP bug?? I think it's something urgent. > > > Hi, > I finally have something more about ppp ,it is really a bug and I can > reproduce it. > First of all it crashes the very first time I initialize a nat connection. > That is if I restart ppp after it crashes it won't crash anymore until > there are active sessions. When the active sessions list is empty if I > open a new nat session it will crash: > durlindana# ipnat -l > List of active MAP/Redirect filters: > map tun0 172.16.16.0/24 -> 80.116.y.x/32 > > List of active sessions: > (empty) > > now the active session list is empty and ppp did crash. > > Here is what gdb reported (gdb ./ppp -c ./ppp.core): > (gdb) bt > Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmd.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libutil.so.3...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libalias.so.4...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libradius.so.1...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnetgraph.so.1...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.4...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. > #0 0x16013a714 in AliasHandleUdpNbt () from /usr/lib/libalias.so.4 > #1 0x16013af00 in AliasHandleUdpNbtNS () from /usr/lib/libalias.so.4 > warning: Hit heuristic-fence-post without finding > warning: enclosing function for address 0x890004187450 > This warning occurs if you are debugging a function without any symbols > (for example, in a stripped executable). In that case, you may wish to > increase the size of the search with the `set heuristic-fence-post' > command. > > Otherwise, you told GDB there was a function where there isn't one, or > (more likely) you have encountered a bug in GDB. > > > I built PPP with symbols (-g). > So I don;t really know what to do.... this ppp problem is really a BIG > problem, at least for me which I ahev to restart it over and over often > every day. I did a script which did it but the problem is that a new > dynamic IP is assigned to me every time and this is really a mess for me. > > thanks > sorry for boring you. > > Rick > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:14:59 -0500 (EST) > > From: Andrew Gallatin > > Reply-To: trimyourccs@loopback.net > > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: PPP bug?? I think it's something urgent. > > > > > > Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > > ADSL PPP connection (PPPoE). It's not possible for me to backtrace looking > > > the core dump with gdb, it does not work. > > > > > > > > > I don't suppose that you've rebuilt ppp with symbols? (eg, added -g > > to the CFLAGS when building ppp). > > > > One you've done this, please go into more detail than "[gdb] does not > > work". Supply an exact transcript. Make sure you do "info registers" > > and "info frame" in addition to "backtrace" > > > > Drew > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 12:17:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5220937B423 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 12:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBEKH2K56826 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:17:02 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8AD391E02; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:15:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D78118601 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:15:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:15:29 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: ppp core dump problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, my last try was to disable ipnat and keep only ppp nat mode. ppp crashes the same way at the very first time a nat connection is established. I'll accept any hints, suggestions, flames... do not have any idea how to fix this problem other than make buildworld and installworld everything with symbols.... There is any alternative to /usr/sbin/ppp ? NetBSD uses rppoe from the packages collection. IS this possible also with FreeBSD? In FreeBSD there is rppoe but it is reported as broken. thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 14:46:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAB737B419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 14:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fBEMkZ193614; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:46:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBEMkitx035378; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:46:44 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBEMkiW12043; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:46:44 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBEMkaB25773; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:46:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:46:34 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp core dump problem Message-ID: <20011214234634.F22150@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 09:15:29PM +0100, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > Hello, > my last try was to disable ipnat and keep only ppp nat mode. > ppp crashes the same way at the very first time a nat connection is > established. I'll accept any hints, suggestions, flames... do not have any > idea how to fix this problem other than make buildworld and installworld > everything with symbols.... You only need to compile the libs and binaries you need debuging output from. From what you already wrote it seems to be libalias and ppp. Simply go into the src dir of the compent you need and make obj all install. > There is any alternative to /usr/sbin/ppp ? /usr/sbin/ppp + fix. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 16:37:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f19.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8152F37B41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:37:28 -0800 Received: from 207.106.42.221 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:37:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [207.106.42.221] From: "Nizar Sedki" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Will FreeBSD work on my Sony Vaio? Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:37:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2001 00:37:28.0413 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC8758D0:01C18500] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If so which platform type should I download? Thank you very much:) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 22:15:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D3A37B419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBF6FJ425865; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:15:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:15:19 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Nizar Sedki Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Will FreeBSD work on my Sony Vaio? Message-ID: <20011214221519.A25840@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from nizar_sedki@hotmail.com on Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 12:37:28AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 12:37:28AM +0000, Nizar Sedki wrote: > If so which platform type should I download? Thank you very much:) I did not know Sony started making DEC Alphas. If they are anything like the Pentium ones, I *definately* want one!! In all seriousness, you've emailed the wrong mailing list. You should try questions@freebsd.org. But they probably wont give you an answer as you haven't told us a single thing about your Vaio. Perhaps you did not concider the WIDE range and NUMERIOUS models Sony has put the "Vaio" name on. When you do email questions@freebsd.org, please include suffient details for an answer that will be helpful to you. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 14 22:21:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96C037B405 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0205.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.205] helo=mindspring.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16F8CR-0002hl-00; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:21:31 -0800 Message-ID: <3C1AEBEF.B3CFA833@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 22:21:35 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nizar Sedki Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Will FreeBSD work on my Sony Vaio? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nizar Sedki wrote: > > If so which platform type should I download? Thank you very much:) Yes. But do not expect the Winmodem to work, and you will need to hack a single axis, one buttom mouse device, if you want to make the "jog dial" work (took me a couple of hours, but the code is incredibly unclean, license-wise AND code-wise AND style-wise... as I said, a hack). Also, though the hardware could support it, there's no easy way to seperate the left button from the touchpad tap "button" to get a "3 button mouse" without chording. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 15 0:22: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B3337B405 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBF8Lrj27054; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:21:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:21:53 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Terry Lambert Cc: Nizar Sedki , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Will FreeBSD work on my Sony Vaio? Message-ID: <20011215002153.A27029@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <3C1AEBEF.B3CFA833@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C1AEBEF.B3CFA833@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:21:35PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > the left button from the touchpad tap "button" to get a > "3 button mouse" without chording. There are Vaio desktops besides laptops. > Yes. But do not expect the Winmodem to work, and you will need MY Vaio laptop does not have a Winmodem. Thus why we really cannot say anything in responde to this detail-lacking question. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 15 2: 2: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B72237B419 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 02:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBFA1tK65000 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:01:55 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9510D1E02; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:00:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B35A18601 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:00:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:00:20 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: ppp problem - gdb output Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recompiled ppp, libcrypt, libmd, libz, libutil, libalias, libradius, libc with symbols, here is what gdb tells analizing the ppp.core Even if I did all this recompiling and isntalling the new binaries with symbols gdb tells... Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)... done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmd.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libutil.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)... done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libalias.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)... done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)... done. anyway here is... #0 0x1601756dc in AliasHandleUdpNbt () from /usr/lib/libalias.so.4 #1 0x12004a888 in _init () (gdb) info frame Stack level 0, frame at 0x11ffb918: pc = 0x1601756dc in AliasHandleUdpNbt; saved pc 0x12004a888 called by frame at 0x11ffb928 Arglist at 0x11ffb8e8, args: Locals at 0x11ffb918, Previous frame's sp is 0x11ffb918 Saved registers: fp at 0x11ffb8c0, ra at 0x11ffb8b8, pc at 0x11ffb8b8 v0 0x1200bc16b 4832608619 t0 0x1200bc16b 4832608619 t1 0x1200bc176 4832608630 t2 0x8 8 t3 0x20c5a6 2147750 t4 0x208288 2130568 t5 0x1200c6080 4832649344 t6 0x0 0 t7 0x0 0 s0 0x120099b18 4832467736 s1 0x11ffbb50 301972304 s2 0x11ffbb30 301972272 s3 0x0 0 s4 0x0 0 s5 0x0 0 fp 0x11ffb608 301970952 a0 0x1603f2220 5909717536 a1 0x1200bc176 4832608630 a2 0x1200bc176 4832608630 a3 0x11ffb698 301971096 a4 0x11ffb6e4 301971172 a5 0x11ffb6e0 301971168 t8 0x0 0 t9 0x120062c48 4832242760 t10 0x0 0 t11 0x5 5 ra 0x1601756a8 5907109544 t12 0x1603d1740 5909583680 at 0x16018eec8 5907214024 gp 0x1601972c0 5907247808 sp 0x11ffb8b8 301971640 zero 0x0 0 pc 0x1601756dc 5907109596 vfp 0x11ffb918 301971736 thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 15 7:16: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCB037B417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBFFFpK66768 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:15:51 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1DAAC1E02; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:14:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBCF18601 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:14:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:14:16 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: ppp problem half resolved Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I resolved the problem installing a local named cache server on my gateway. I discovered that what did ppp crash. They were DNS queries by the client on the hidden internal LAN. Now I make the client query to my gateway DNS and ppp did crash NO MORE. Before clients DNS queries went on my ISP dns server passing tru my natted gateway. thanks in particular to Drew to bear with me about this problem and for the hints given. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 15 7:36:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ms51.hinet.net (ms51.hinet.net [168.95.4.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEAD37B419; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from u6o9v0 (61-216-40-84.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.216.40.84]) by ms51.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA09762; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:22:52 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200112151522.XAA09762@ms51.hinet.net> From: "dream" To: Subject: 行愛的真諦--敲天堂的門 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:25:02 +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org

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      行愛的真諦  敲天堂的門

     

     

    愛是恆久忍耐，又有恩慈，愛是不嫉妒。愛是不自誇，不張狂，不做害羞的事。不求自己的益處，不輕易發怒，不計算人家的惡，不喜歡不義，只喜歡真理。凡事包容，凡事相信，凡事盼望，凡事忍耐，凡事要忍耐，愛是永不止息。

     

      

       「愛的真諦」是聖經中的一段話，經人整理後，譜成一曲舒緩動聽的人間之歌。這首歌從小至今深獲我喜愛，印象中是在小學合唱團學的。她那優美柔和的旋律、內涵豐富的歌詞不但靜默地滋養著我童年的心靈，也陪我度過了無數個人生的挫折與考驗，當我遭逢苦惱或面對讚揚時，我的心底時常響起這首聖潔無比的歌。

        我常暗自佩服身旁的基督教朋友，因為神要她們做的不只是普通的好人，而是言行俱美、品德高潔的好人中的好人！前一陣子，一位基督教同學的談話，卻給了我一些思考的空間，我突然對她信仰上帝的方式感到有些疑惑。

        她經常熱心地與周圍的人分享神如何愛護他們整個家庭、如何悉心安排她的人生遭遇，真心地訴說著神的無私、偉大與包容。那天聽到她說：「…無論你以前做了什麼不好的事，只要你信祂，祂就會帶領你走向天國。」對方問她：「就這麼簡單嗎？只要我相信祂，就可以上天國嗎？」她回答：「是啊！就是這麼簡單！你看上帝多麼偉大呀！」

         我生長在一個沒有神佛信仰、甚少宗教儀式的家庭裡。儘管在成長過程中，與宗教的接觸非常有限，但是我一直深信，人總該要有屬於自己的信仰，也因此，我便不斷尋找亙古不變的真理。

        因著同學的談話，我再一次思考人們對於宗教的認知。人真的了解神的旨意嗎？我想，不管是耶穌或是釋迦牟尼，為了救渡世人而傳道講法時，應該沒有說過自己是基督教或是佛教吧！當我認識到宗教是後人所自創的名詞，儀式也是因著時空背景所自行建立的人類行為，而非神的旨意，人們信奉、護衛的是宗教形式，而非其中所闡揚的真理，祈求的是自己在世間的各種現實利益時，對於現今諸多宗教亂象也就不那麼摸不著頭緒了。也難怪我的同學會如此天真的以為只在表面上、形式上「信耶穌就得永生」了。

        我認為信不只是精神上的堅守，更是行動上的落實。就如同我們在學校學習一樣，如果我相信只要考進一流高中，就可以包中諸多學子夢寐以求的大學名校，而不在三年的高中生涯中認真聽講，盡力做好一個學生的本分，又怎能實現成為大學新鮮人的美麗夢想呢？正確的思考伴隨積極的行動，不正是成就諸多美事的先決要件嗎？

        我想不管我們來自何方，過著什麼樣的生活，是否擁有宗教信仰，我期盼人們都能將「愛的真諦」的精深內涵與美好德行融入生活點滴之中，做個真正心靈潔淨、道德高尚的好人。

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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 15 21: 6:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from k6.locore.ca (k6.locore.ca [198.96.117.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C048D37B417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 21:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jake@localhost) by k6.locore.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBG58LY36694 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:08:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jake) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:08:21 -0500 From: Jake Burkholder To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/sys/ufs/ffs ffs_alloc.c ffs_snapshot.c ffs_vfsops.c fs.h Message-ID: <20011216000821.D35198@locore.ca> References: <200112140015.fBE0F6Q99440@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112140015.fBE0F6Q99440@freefall.freebsd.org>; from mckusick@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 04:15:06PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This commit breaks binary compatibility of the ffs superblock for 64 bit platforms. Do not update to -current or you will not be able to mount your ffs filesystems (unless you use kernel.old). Have a nice day. Apparently, On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 04:15:06PM -0800, Kirk McKusick said words to the effect of; > mckusick 2001/12/13 16:15:06 PST > > Modified files: > sys/ufs/ffs ffs_alloc.c ffs_snapshot.c ffs_vfsops.c > fs.h > Log: > Minimize the time necessary to suspend operations on a filesystem > when taking a snapshot. The two time consuming operations are > scanning all the filesystem bitmaps to determine which blocks > are in use and scanning all the other snapshots so as to be able > to expunge their blocks from the view of the current snapshot. > The bitmap scanning is broken into two passes. Before suspending > the filesystem all bitmaps are scanned. After the suspension, > those bitmaps that changed after being scanned the first time > are rescanned. Typically there are few bitmaps that need to be > rescanned. The expunging of other snapshots is now done after > the suspension is released by observing that we can easily > identify any blocks that were allocated to them after the > suspension (they will be maked as `not needing to be copied' > in the just created snapshot). For all the gory details, see > the ``Running fsck in the Background'' paper in the Usenix > BSDCon 2002 Conference Proceedings, pages 55-64. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.82 +15 -1 src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c > 1.24 +193 -96 src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_snapshot.c > 1.164 +1 -0 src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c > 1.24 +3 -2 src/sys/ufs/ffs/fs.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message