From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 2:14: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp3fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DA837B408 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:14:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: from hercules ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:13:50 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Subject: The FreeBSD Demon Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:14:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [please e-mail me directly, as i'm not subscribed to the list] Hello, I was wondering if anyone here knows the name for the BSD demon, like Tux is the name for the Linux penguin? -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks, Inc. http://www.blinx.net/ "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 4:17: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A26837B40A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ntlworld.com) Received: from parish ([62.255.97.31]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010812111651.DCWE15984.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:16:51 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7CBGmr19401; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:16:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:16:48 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Demon Message-ID: <20010812121648.A275@parish> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jslivko@blinx.net on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 05:14:28AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 05:14:28AM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > [please e-mail me directly, as i'm not subscribed to the list] > > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone here knows the name for the BSD demon, like Tux is > the name for the Linux penguin? -- Jonathan > Officially he is nameless but Kirk McKusick, the copyright holder of the image, says that if you must call him something then "Beastie" is the name. You may often see him called "Chuck" but that is frowned upon by Kirk. From Kirk's website, http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html Many folks have asked about the BSD daemon's name. Contrary to a myth first started by some advertising droid at Walnut Creek, the daemon's name is NOT Chuck. He is very proud of the fact that he does not have a name, he is just the BSD daemon. If you insist on a name, call him beastie. > -- > Jonathan M. Slivko > Blinx Networks, Inc. > http://www.blinx.net/ > "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 4:53:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3336737B407; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: (apparently) from hercules ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:53:42 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "Mark Ovens" Cc: Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Demon Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:54:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010812121648.A275@parish> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The reason i'm asking is because I know that there are Tuxtops out there, and I know that Tux is the name of the Linux Penguin. So, I was wondering if there is a similar sort of name for laptops running *BSD. -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks, Inc. http://www.blinx.net/ "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" -----Original Message----- From: Mark Ovens [mailto:marko@freebsd.org] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:17 AM To: Jonathan M. Slivko Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Demon On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 05:14:28AM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > [please e-mail me directly, as i'm not subscribed to the list] > > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone here knows the name for the BSD demon, like Tux is > the name for the Linux penguin? -- Jonathan > Officially he is nameless but Kirk McKusick, the copyright holder of the image, says that if you must call him something then "Beastie" is the name. You may often see him called "Chuck" but that is frowned upon by Kirk. From Kirk's website, http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html Many folks have asked about the BSD daemon's name. Contrary to a myth first started by some advertising droid at Walnut Creek, the daemon's name is NOT Chuck. He is very proud of the fact that he does not have a name, he is just the BSD daemon. If you insist on a name, call him beastie. > -- > Jonathan M. Slivko > Blinx Networks, Inc. > http://www.blinx.net/ > "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 5:14:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0747337B406; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:14:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7CCH1j76321; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:17:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:17:01 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: Mark Ovens , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Demon Message-ID: <20010812131700.T50182@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010812121648.A275@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="N7HXVILz59yg1nI8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jslivko@blinx.net on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 07:54:21AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --N7HXVILz59yg1nI8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 07:54:21AM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > The reason i'm asking is because I know that there are Tuxtops out there, > and I know that Tux is the name of the Linux Penguin. So, I was wondering= if > there is a similar sort of name for laptops running *BSD. -- Jonathan "Laptop". N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --N7HXVILz59yg1nI8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt2c7sACgkQk6gHZCw343VSsQCff8JaDzgyYSUyMu8JF8od+XKF hToAnjQ09ymq8pmzD+Y8LQ3ggWDBJcst =4c57 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --N7HXVILz59yg1nI8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 5:17:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6EA37B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:17:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ntlworld.com) Received: from parish ([62.253.85.212]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010812121740.DPFH15984.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:17:40 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7CCHa263780; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:17:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:17:35 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Demon Message-ID: <20010812131735.A62791@parish> References: <20010812121648.A275@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jslivko@blinx.net on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 07:54:21AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 07:54:21AM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > The reason i'm asking is because I know that there are Tuxtops out there, > and I know that Tux is the name of the Linux Penguin. So, I was wondering if > there is a similar sort of name for laptops running *BSD. -- Jonathan > Dunno, I've never heard of one (but then I've never heard of TuxTops either). I guess ChuckTops sort of rolls off the tongue but I doubt Kirk would be amused. BeastieTops just doesn't cut it though. > -- > Jonathan M. Slivko > Blinx Networks, Inc. > http://www.blinx.net/ > "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" ROFL - http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/Ms1.jpg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Ovens [mailto:marko@freebsd.org] > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:17 AM > To: Jonathan M. Slivko > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Demon > > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 05:14:28AM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > [please e-mail me directly, as i'm not subscribed to the list] > > > > Hello, > > > > I was wondering if anyone here knows the name for the BSD demon, like Tux > is > > the name for the Linux penguin? -- Jonathan > > > > Officially he is nameless but Kirk McKusick, the copyright holder of the > image, says that if you must call him something then "Beastie" is the name. > You may often see him called "Chuck" but that is frowned upon by Kirk. > > >From Kirk's website, http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html > > Many folks have asked about the BSD daemon's name. Contrary to a > myth first started by some advertising droid at Walnut Creek, the > daemon's name is NOT Chuck. He is very proud of the fact that he > does not have a name, he is just the BSD daemon. If you insist on a > name, call him beastie. > > > -- > > Jonathan M. Slivko > > Blinx Networks, Inc. > > http://www.blinx.net/ > > "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > -- > 4.4 - The number of the Beastie > ________________________________________________________________ > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 9:57:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0F937B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:57:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from europax@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010812165720.CUVL16290.femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:57:20 -0700 Message-ID: <3B76B56D.5DAF71B9@home.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:57:17 -0700 From: Rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: When is 4.4 going to arrive? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I see people cvsup'ing pre-4.4. When is 4.4-release supposed to arrive? Thanks, Rob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 11: 1:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from tigerdyr.wheel.dk (tigerdyr.wheel.dk [62.242.234.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DA437B401 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:01:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@lyngbol.dk) Received: by tigerdyr.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 5A0A8150E5; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:01:42 +0200 From: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lyngb=F8l?= To: Rob Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is 4.4 going to arrive? Message-ID: <20010812200142.B83267@tigerdyr.wheel.dk> References: <3B76B56D.5DAF71B9@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3B76B56D.5DAF71B9@home.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 5.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CA6 3789 1455 8FC2 D499 F22A D763 1ABB 9E4A 37AE X-PGP-Public-Key: finger lyngbol@tigerdyr.wheel.dk Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12.08.2001 09:57:17 +0000, Rob wrote: > I see people cvsup'ing pre-4.4. When is 4.4-release supposed to > arrive? Thanks, Rob. August 20th. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=0+0+archive/2001/freebsd-announce/20010624.freebsd-announce /Michael -- Michael Lyngbøl -- michael at lyngbol dot dk TDC Tele Danmark, DataNetworks, IP section To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 14:47:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A3237B408; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:47:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@tumbolia.com) Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0356434; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:47:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:47:27 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt X-X-Sender: To: Technical Information Cc: Mark Ovens , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: calculating uptime In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010811140656.0181bc88@threespace.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Technical Information wrote: :At 11:59 AM 8/11/2001, Mark Ovens wrote: :>On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 11:55:45PM -0400, Technical Information wrote: :> > I currently run Windows and Linux about evenly now, :> :>What about FreeBSD? : :The XFree86 3.3.6 included with the latest shipping version of FreeBSD 4.3 :didn't have drivers for my fancy Voodoo 5 video card. So until I figure :out how to install XFree86 4.1 on FreeBSD without using sysintall, I'm :running Red Hat 7.1. Interestingly, I do occasionally run FreeBSD in :emulation on the Red Hat system. pkg_add -r XFree86-4.1.0_4 -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 17:34: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BC137B401; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09336; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:33:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010812183112.047b7d50@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:33:30 -0600 To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , "Mark Ovens" From: Brett Glass Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Demon Cc: In-Reply-To: References: <20010812121648.A275@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:54 AM 8/12/2001, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: >The reason i'm asking is because I know that there are Tuxtops out there, >and I know that Tux is the name of the Linux Penguin. So, I was wondering if >there is a similar sort of name for laptops running *BSD. -- Jonathan "Tuxtops" was actually the name of a company. I tried to persuade them to do a laptop with FreeBSD pre-installed, and actually got a solid configuration going for them. But the founders sold the company shortly thereafter, and the new owner did not show interest in having me tie up the loose ends and help them ship the product. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 17:54:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E7C37B405; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: from hercules ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:54:16 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "Brett Glass" , "Mark Ovens" Cc: Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Demon Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:54:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010812183112.047b7d50@localhost> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was under the impression that Tuxtops are laptops running Linux, not a company or brandname. -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks, Inc. http://www.blinx.net/ "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" -----Original Message----- From: Brett Glass [mailto:brett@lariat.org] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 8:34 PM To: Jonathan M. Slivko; Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Demon At 05:54 AM 8/12/2001, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: >The reason i'm asking is because I know that there are Tuxtops out there, >and I know that Tux is the name of the Linux Penguin. So, I was wondering if >there is a similar sort of name for laptops running *BSD. -- Jonathan "Tuxtops" was actually the name of a company. I tried to persuade them to do a laptop with FreeBSD pre-installed, and actually got a solid configuration going for them. But the founders sold the company shortly thereafter, and the new owner did not show interest in having me tie up the loose ends and help them ship the product. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 12 21: 8:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-252.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BE237B405; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:08:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 94C2866CC1; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:08:03 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: Brett Glass , Mark Ovens , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Demon Message-ID: <20010812210803.A4447@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010812183112.047b7d50@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jslivko@blinx.net on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > I was under the impression that Tuxtops are laptops running Linux, not a > company or brandname. -- Jonathan Surely you can call it whatever you like, and if you want to make up a lame name for your BSD-running laptop (BSDtop, yay!) feel free to :-) Kris --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7d1KiWry0BWjoQKURAuuOAKCsWnmkFQOsMWKYJlDAWNUP4P3NfwCg03dN YT1rYacmTfuHlaNqt7lqSxY= =r47g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 13 9:15: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C56D37B409; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:15:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15728; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:14:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010813101150.054ec510@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:14:45 -0600 To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , "Mark Ovens" From: Brett Glass Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Demon Cc: In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010812183112.047b7d50@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:54 PM 8/12/2001, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: >I was under the impression that Tuxtops are laptops running Linux, not a >company or brandname. -- Jonathan Nope. It's a trademark, and was (until they were acquired) the name of a corporation. See http://www.tuxtops.com/ --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 13 18:27:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from franklin.physics.purdue.edu (franklin.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70F337B40A; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:27:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: from physics.purdue.edu (bohr.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.67.12]) by franklin.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF3C20F01; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 12409) id B76125BC1; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:29:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:29:53 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: misc@openbsd.org, chat@freebsd.org, cvsup@csociety.purdue.edu Cc: jdp@FreeBSD.org, brian@OpenBSD.org, plug@csociety.purdue.edu, openbsd-mirrors@list.rt.fm Subject: cvsup server going down for upgrade Message-ID: <20010813202953.F5712@bohr.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After 95 consecutive days of service and over 25,000 connections served (grand total of ~70,000 over the last nine months), I am taking down cvsup12.freebsd.org+cvsup.usa.openbsd.org to perform an upgrade on the operating system. This will be done sometime between Thursday, August 16 and Saturday, August 18, depending on how the week goes. Thanks, -- wca, operator; cvsup.usa.openbsd.org+cvsup12.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 13 21:19:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2974C37B40A; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:19:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B9BA6ACBC; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:50:11 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:50:11 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: admin@FreeBSD.org, Terry Lambert , Mike Meyer , j mckitrick , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Blocking earthlink (was: How did the MSFT monopoly start?) Message-ID: <20010814135011.B61413@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010806142544.A64348@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15214.52633.581653.632317@guru.mired.org> <3B6F98D0.A3C22CC9@mindspring.com> <20010808160551.Q78395@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3B7103A4.558B9B3B@mindspring.com> <20010809124559.G73579@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010810001105.A6407@blossom.cjclark.org> <20010810164617.H37968@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010810005706.B6485@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010810005706.B6485@blossom.cjclark.org>; from cristjc@earthlink.net on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 12:57:06AM -0700 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 10 August 2001 at 0:57:06 -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 04:46:17PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > [snip] > >>> I use Earthlink and it looks like someone's blocked outgoing port 25 >>> from their network that is not going to their own mail servers. If I >>> do, >>> >>> $ telnet hub.freebsd.org 25 >>> Trying 216.136.204.18... >>> telnet: connect to address 216.136.204.18: Network dropped connection on reset >>> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host >>> >>> I get blocked, >>> >>> # tcpdump -itun0 -n >>> 00:07:29.298296 209.244.105.174.1184 > 216.136.204.18.25: S 3233816272:3233816272(0) win 16384 (DF) [tos 0x10] >>> 00:07:29.435204 209.244.43.80 > 209.244.105.174: icmp: net 216.136.204.18 unreachable - admin prohibited >>> >>> $ host 209.244.43.80 >>> 80.43.244.209.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer nas16.sjo1.Level3.net >>> >>> I can otherwise access hub just fine. Only port 25 is affected. >> >> Hmm. Looks like a firewall rule. I don't know if that's intended; >> I'm copying admin@, who will possibly reply. > > I think you may have misunderstood. I believe _Earthlink_ is blocking > outgoing SMTP (25/tcp) as an anti-spam measure. That machine producing > the ICMP unreachable is my first hop, Ah, sorry. Yes, that seems reasonable. Why are you trying to send mail directly rather than through the Earthlink SMTP servers? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 13 21:55:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DE337B40E; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@earthlink.net) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (1Cust29.tnt1.santa-clara2.ca.da.uu.net [63.59.192.29]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07692; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7E4tCF05228; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:55:11 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Greg Lehey Cc: admin@FreeBSD.org, Terry Lambert , Mike Meyer , j mckitrick , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Blocking earthlink (was: How did the MSFT monopoly start?) Message-ID: <20010813215511.C349@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20010806142544.A64348@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15214.52633.581653.632317@guru.mired.org> <3B6F98D0.A3C22CC9@mindspring.com> <20010808160551.Q78395@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3B7103A4.558B9B3B@mindspring.com> <20010809124559.G73579@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010810001105.A6407@blossom.cjclark.org> <20010810164617.H37968@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010810005706.B6485@blossom.cjclark.org> <20010814135011.B61413@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010814135011.B61413@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 01:50:11PM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 01:50:11PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: [snip] > Ah, sorry. Yes, that seems reasonable. Why are you trying to send > mail directly rather than through the Earthlink SMTP servers? I generally do not. As you can see, all of the mails I have sent in this thread have been successfully routed through Earthlink's servers. I do find the block annoying when I try to help people debug email problems since, $ telnet smtp.somedomain.org 25 Will obviously fail. But the whole reason I brought up this goes back to Terry mentioning his ISP recently was aquired and he now has a "mindspring" address. Since that time he has experienced email issues. "mindspring" is part of Earthlink too. I thought I'd mention that Earthlink messes with port 25 which may or may not have some relation to his troubles. Probably not, but I thought I'd whine about it. Didn't think the thread would live on this long. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Aug 14 12:55:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C053E37B409; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.28]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23059; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:55:48 +0200 Received: by zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5670D14E4C; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:55:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:55:48 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Akinori MUSHA Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils/portupgrade Makefile distinfo Message-ID: <20010814215548.D22531@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Langer , Akinori MUSHA , chat@FreeBSD.org References: <200108082230.f78MU3Q86293@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108082230.f78MU3Q86293@freefall.freebsd.org>; from knu@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 03:30:03PM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Akinori MUSHA (knu@FreeBSD.org): > Since it's my birthday today, I just wish this update doesn't contain > terrible bugs.. ;) Heh, working on his birthday. You are evil :) Alex -- WELCOME DATACOMP! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 15 15:32:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45F137B407 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:32:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA70033; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:32:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: eug@bsd.eu.org, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Internationale Funkausstellung Berlin From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Aug 2001 00:31:56 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eivind and are going to IFA Berlin (http://www.ifa-berlin.com/) with a customer (Hypertec stand - hall 4.2a, stand 01). The fair doesn't open until Saturday, August 25th, but we'll be there a couple of days early to set up the stand etc. It would be great to meet up with other FreeBSD folks while we're there - other IFA attendees or local residents - and have a beer or two! (feel free to forward this to appropriate German FUG mailing lists) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 16 0:20:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from seven.Alameda.net (dsl081-063-137.dsl-isp.net [64.81.63.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBFD37B40E for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@Alameda.net) Received: by seven.Alameda.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 85B9A3A212; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:25:01 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Testing imap filter setup. Please ignore Message-ID: <20010816002501.A36297@seven.alameda.net> Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please ignore this email. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 CCNA, CCNP now, CCIE hopeful soon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 16 8: 7: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A00237B406 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:07:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA51609; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:07:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:07:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Terry Lambert Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD's aggressive keyboard probe/attach In-Reply-To: <3B7B7CB0.AD23C107@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Snipped the other recipients and moved to -chat, since we've moved out of -current's subject area. :-) On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > Chris Dillon wrote: > [ ... Belkin OmniView firmware version ... ] > > > > Little square sticker with rounded corners on the bottom, about > > > 1/2" by 1/4", with just the version, e.g. "1.9"... > > > > The 4-port OmniCube on my desk only has version 1.5, but that probably > > doesn't matter (how would I upgrade it? I have a ROM burner). > > I don't know how you would upgrade; it isn't flashable. A > quick look at their web site doesn't show new versions > available; I rather think it would violate your warranty. I just popped the hood and apparently they are using two Microchip PIC16C57C microcontrollers, not a ROM and seperate CPU or MCU. I can program that type of MCU, but these are only one-shot devices, so can't be reprogrammed. > > The only > > caveat with these two KVM switches hooked together is that it is a > > real PITA when I hit Scroll Lock twice to change consoles on the > > remote KVM that sometimes the local KVM will see the same sequence and > > think I want to change consoles on it instead. I wish there were a > > way to disable the keyboard shortcuts on the OmniCube and just use the > > front-panel button. > > There's actually a way to do the cascade correctly; you can see > the product manuals on line. They have a "magic" keyboard cable > that you *must* use, and then they have two di switches that you > have to set "off" for the cascaded device. Good luck! They don't support cascading of any type with the OmniCube series, apparently. There are no dipswitches on my OmniCube anywhere either. I'll probably have to get a different KVM switch if I want to avoid the keyboard shortcut annoyance. :-) -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet - Available for IA32 (Intel x86) and Alpha architectures - IA64 (Itanium), PowerPC, and ARM architectures under development - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 17 14: 3:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from o-o.org (o-o.org [216.90.196.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA20437B40A for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaila@o-o.org) Received: from localhost (kaila@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by o-o.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA85418; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:03:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kaila@o-o.org) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:03:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Kaila To: chat@freebsd.org Cc: kyfhon@fnord.to Subject: Something I found while poking around... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.aplusconferencing.com/osc.html I copied out the basic text below (pulled the urls out into text) I've worked with the company before and never had any complaints about their service or honesty. I don't have any use for this myself, but thought maybe the project could benefit from it... -------------------------------------------- Everyone's heard of free email, but how about free phone conferencing? Teleconferencing is a lot like IRC, but using telephones and voice instead of typing. As you might imagine, it's a lot faster, more dynamic, and in general just a better way to have a real time discussion without all the lag and distractions. The problem has always been that it is so expensive, that it's not really reasonable to use it for things like development work. Now, that's changed. A+ Conferencing, Inc (www.aplusconferencing.com) has worked out a deal to allow free use of their reservationless conference bridges during off peak hours for members of the open source community. This is a pilot program and at present limited capacity is available. If you are interested in taking advantage of this program, send an email to opensource@aplusconferencing.com with the following information: The name of your open source project, a web site where information about the project is available, name and email address for a contact person for the project, name and email addresses for up to four conference moderators, and a rough estimate of how many ports you expect to use (this is the maximum number of people you expect per conference and does not need to be exact) Please be aware that no information provided to A+ Conferencing will be in any way sold or shared. Also please note that due to limited availability of time and ports, that all projects accepted for this pilot program must comply with the definition of Open Source provided by the Open Source Initiative (http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html). ------------------------------------- [ Name : Christine F. Maxwell ] [ ICQ : #45010616 ] [ EMail : cfm@o-o.org ] [ IRC : Kaila ] [ Home : http://www.cfm.o-o.org/ ] [ BBS : http://www.aci.o-o.org ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Aug 18 1:45: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB7C37B408 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:45:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA60854 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:35:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Book for New Users Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finally got this finished, and it was published August 16, the day I got the first copies and the day Chris Coleman announced it on DaemonNews. It's available from mall.daemonnews.org. The title is FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer. It's for people new to both FreeBSD and UNIX. But if anyone is interested in reviewing it for an on-line or hard copy publication, let me know and I'll see that you get a review copy--or, if you prefer, pdf files. (Chris already has a reviewer for DaemonNews, but SlashDot seems to be looking.) Thanks, Annelise To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Aug 18 5:47:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCA337B414 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 05:47:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15Y5VP-000Itt-00 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:47:11 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f7IClBD15696 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:47:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:47:10 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: conspiracy theory, anyone? Message-ID: <20010818134710.A15680@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If this is true, it is downright chilling... http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010816.html jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Aug 18 5:50:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2724037B416 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 05:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15Y5YA-000JVk-00 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:50:02 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f7ICo2d15743 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:50:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:50:02 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: conspiracy theory, anyone? Message-ID: <20010818135002.A15719@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If this is true, it is downright chilling... http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010816.html i forgot one other article... http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html jm -- My other computer is your windows box. ----- End forwarded message ----- jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Aug 18 10:20:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B5EF37B40D for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 51075 invoked by uid 100); 18 Aug 2001 17:20:09 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15230.41929.497256.848736@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 12:20:09 -0500 To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: conspiracy theory, anyone? In-Reply-To: <20010818135002.A15719@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010818135002.A15719@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org j mckitrick types: > If this is true, it is downright chilling... > http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010816.html That sounds like MS doing business as usual. > i forgot one other article... > http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html That one has been debunked in a number of places. I like . http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. 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