From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Apr 29 10:45:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from bsdhome.dyndns.org (unknown [24.25.2.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4197D37B423 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd@bsdhome.com) Received: from vger.bsdhome.com (vger [192.168.220.2]) by bsdhome.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3THjsJ74162 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:45:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsd@bsdhome.com) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by vger.bsdhome.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3THjrF51053; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:45:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:45:53 -0400 From: Brian Dean To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: ~/public_distfiles copying Message-ID: <20010429134553.D47740@vger.bsdhome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Recently (about 4 days ago), I put up a new distfile for one of my ports in my home directory on freefall. The file has not yet propogated to ftp.freebsd.org. I was wondering if this process is still supported or perhaps there is a problem related to recent ftp.freebsd.org problems? Thanks, -Brian -- Brian Dean bsd@FreeBSD.org bsd@bsdhome.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [root@vger]:/avrprog- make fetch >> avrprog-1.2.2.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bsd/. fetch: avrprog-1.2.2.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.se.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bsd/. fetch: avrprog-1.2.2.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bsd/. fetch: avrprog-1.2.2.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bsd/. fetch: avrprog-1.2.2.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.ru.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bsd/. fetch: avrprog-1.2.2.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.nectec.or.th/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bsd/. fetch: avrprog-1.2.2.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch: avrprog-1.2.2.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Apr 29 12:17:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from casimir.physics.purdue.edu (casimir.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0E837B43E for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: by casimir.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B0081C0E3; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:13:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:13:17 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Brian Dean Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ~/public_distfiles copying Message-ID: <20010429141316.G5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <20010429134553.D47740@vger.bsdhome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Tz7mAkDDWm/7r1IB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010429134553.D47740@vger.bsdhome.com>; from bsd@bsdhome.com on Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:45:53PM -0400 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 sparc64 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Tz7mAkDDWm/7r1IB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:45:53PM -0400, Brian Dean wrote: > Recently (about 4 days ago), I put up a new distfile for one of my > ports in my home directory on freefall. The file has not yet > propogated to ftp.freebsd.org. I was wondering if this process is > still supported or perhaps there is a problem related to recent > ftp.freebsd.org problems? Yes, it's related to these problems. There's no point in syncing up the local-distfiles stuff without a primary master server. Period. The ftp.freebsd.org we have now is not a primary master, it's more of a 4.3R clearinghouse server (well, it has other releases now, but it's still a subset of what the former ftp.freesoftware.com server once had ;<). It's unfortunate that lightning.net had to crap out now (or whatever the actual problem is), but... we'll make do with what we can. Peter Wemm is working on an ftp-master server for the mirrors (yay!) so the main ftp site won't (any longer) be viewed as THE site for everyone. Good man, that Peter Wemm. Indeed. :-) --=20 wca --Tz7mAkDDWm/7r1IB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE67GfMF47idPgWcsURApe4AKCSBdgngYQo5WWHOfsj+Ky0+G/TvwCeI88J uxGCm80T4cL2OHBPnckbaDw= =tTjk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Tz7mAkDDWm/7r1IB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Apr 30 12:15:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D30C37B424 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8846A5D60; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:15:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:15:23 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Peter Wemm Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftpX.freebsd.org syncing (e.g missing files/isos) Message-ID: <20010430211523.A24214@skriver.dk> References: <20010429054425.99588380C@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010429054425.99588380C@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 10:44:25PM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 10:44:25PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > Wes Kurdziolek wrote: > > There are plans to create an ftp-master.freebsd.org which the mirrors will > > sync w/. Right now ftp.freebsd.org is hosting a small subset of the real > > ftp.freebsd.org's contents. > > ftp-master.freebsd.org exists and is about 80% complete. Once it has had a > final rsync pass from ftp.freesoftware.com, it will be open for business. > > Things were taking a LOT longer than I expected because of a botch in the > network interface setup. The switch was wired at 100/full, and the damn > fxp driver chose 100/half duplex. This was slowing things down > spectacularly with the faster sites due to loss from "collisions". > > I hope it will be ready in the next 12 to 24 hours. How will you authenticate access to ftp-master ? by ip address or by a shared password, or ? Have you got a new ETA ? /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 13: 2:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D3837B422 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:02:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA96419; Wed, 2 May 2001 16:02:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:02:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200105022002.QAA96419@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Peter Wemm Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master.freebsd.org is alive ... In-Reply-To: <20010428063629.2EB96380C@overcee.netplex.com.au> References: <200104271436.KAA33044@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20010428063629.2EB96380C@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > And you have the same fine-grained functionality with rsync. The manual page suggests that it can do most of what I want it to do (although I don't relish rewriting all those regular expressions into globs so that `rsync' can handle them). rsync still doesn't have useful gradations in verbosity, doesn't have a safety feature to limit the scope of deletions, and doesn't deal gracefully with connections being refused or broken and permission errors on either end. (The server is also an incredible memory hog, but I assume you have already crossed that bridge.) In short, I much prefer spegla, despite its clear quirkiness and incomplete documentation. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 13:33:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDB037B43C for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:33:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f42KXHO15201; Thu, 3 May 2001 06:33:18 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:33:18 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Peter Wemm , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master.freebsd.org is alive ... In-Reply-To: <200105022002.QAA96419@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 May 2001, Garrett Wollman wrote: > The manual page suggests that it can do most of what I want it to do > (although I don't relish rewriting all those regular expressions into > globs so that `rsync' can handle them). rsync still doesn't have > useful gradations in verbosity, doesn't have a safety feature to limit true > the scope of deletions, and doesn't deal gracefully with connections --max-delete=# it's not as good as mirrors.. really needs to be written, but you can use it to stop your whole site being wiped out. > being refused or broken and permission errors on either end. (The this is true.. > server is also an incredible memory hog, but I assume you have already > crossed that bridge.) it's much less of a memory hog than mirror.pl.. but things like omi/spegla are better at memory usage. it also chews a lot more memory with --delete unfortunately (about 3 times more i believe ?) regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 14:17:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from casimir.physics.purdue.edu (casimir.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C18937B422 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:17:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: by casimir.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2A161C0E3; Wed, 2 May 2001 16:13:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:13:30 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: ftp-master method Message-ID: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0S40YYjc8USbVp7i" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 sparc64 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0S40YYjc8USbVp7i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit faster than rsync, to put it mildly. --=20 wca [*] I like blue bikesheds. --0S40YYjc8USbVp7i Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE68Hh6F47idPgWcsURAsxZAJ9xb759w1Y2CI8DwiRDkHbI0IqHTACbBKOf khg8w1+5WBooPQ/rOiLEgB4= =OZk+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0S40YYjc8USbVp7i-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 14:22:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B469D37B422 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9958C5D60; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:22:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:22:25 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Will Andrews Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftp-master method Message-ID: <20010502232225.B61696@skriver.dk> References: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>; from will@physics.purdue.edu on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:13:30PM -0500 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:13:30PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. For now I simply suggest to offer both ftp and rsync access for mirror, then people can pick what they prefer. Later when we've gotten the mirror's in sync we can have a look at cvsup or other methods. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 21:11:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from stinky.ca.360networks.net (stinky.ca.360networks.net [64.251.100.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40BB37B424 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 21:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmayo@360networks.net) Received: by stinky.ca.360networks.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A111A60E01; Wed, 2 May 2001 21:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:11:23 -0700 From: Mark Mayo To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: How much disk space needed for a complete mirror? Message-ID: <20010502211123.A74398@360networks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Subject pretty much says it all.. How much disk space is anticipated to carry a complete mirror of the ftp.freebsd.org site? TIA, -Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 21:12:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from lists.unixathome.org (lists.unixathome.org [210.48.103.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEF837B424 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 21:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.unixathome.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f434COA96001; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:12:24 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:12:24 +1200 (NZST) From: Dan Langille X-Sender: dan@lists.unixathome.org To: Mark Mayo Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much disk space needed for a complete mirror? In-Reply-To: <20010502211123.A74398@360networks.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please check the mailing list archives for this list. This is a very FAQ. On Wed, 2 May 2001, Mark Mayo wrote: > Subject pretty much says it all.. How much disk space is anticipated > to carry a complete mirror of the ftp.freebsd.org site? > > TIA, > -Mark > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 21:22:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169F537B422 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 21:22:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f434MI830321; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:22:18 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from localhost.coe.ufrj.br(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "jonny.eng.br" via SMTP by localhost.coe.ufrj.br, id smtpds8Bgxk; Thu May 3 01:22:14 2001 Message-ID: <3AF0DD00.D0D95863@jonny.eng.br> Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 01:22:24 -0300 From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Organization: Internet via Embratel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,pt,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Langille Cc: Mark Mayo , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much disk space needed for a complete mirror? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Let's make a new FAQ. How much disk space estimated to be considered a primary mirror in the coming days of ftp-master? Dan Langille wrote: > > Please check the mailing list archives for this list. This is a very FAQ. > > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Mark Mayo wrote: > > > Subject pretty much says it all.. How much disk space is anticipated > > to carry a complete mirror of the ftp.freebsd.org site? > > > > TIA, > > -Mark Jonny (ftp.br.freebsd.org master) -- João Carlos Mendes Luís jonny@embratel.net.br Networking Engineer jonny@jonny.eng.br Internet via Embratel jcml@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 22:10:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D195F37B423 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f435AKM96747 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDCB380A; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Will Andrews Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 22:10:20 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010503051020.7BDCB380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Will Andrews wrote: > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. Please make sure you are using the current version: ftp-master# rsync --version rsync version 2.4.6 protocol version 24 Dont even use 2.4.x where x <= 5. I ran into some problems with them. The command you probably want to do a full mirror is: rsync -vaz --delete rsync://ftp-master.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/ ~ftp/pub/FreeBSD/ Leave out the --delete initially to make sure you are not in for a nasty suprise. I am not sure what to do about the dir.sizes and ls-lR.gz file. Right now they are copies of what was rsync'ed from ftp.freesoftware.com. ftp is not yet available. people can ftp from inside the freebsd cluster, but I have no way to use the mirror access list yet. So for now, for the folks who want to use ftp, sorry. Once another mirror has updated, you can mirror that. jkh did some spring cleaning before the final rsync, the archive is now ~48GB. The release candidates and some other stuff got cleaned out. It does have 4.3-R, but the timestamps may be off. They never made it to ftp.freesoftware.com, and there are several unofficial copies around. All the checksums were verified though. Fire away, but please be gentle to start with. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 22:24:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D4037B422 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f435OIM96784 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF81E380A for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010503051020.7BDCB380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 22:24:18 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010503052418.CF81E380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: > Will Andrews wrote: > > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. > > I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. Some things I forgot to mention.. I'm using the same access list that ftp.freesoftware.com had for the mirror class. If you were mirroring anonymously, you will need to get in touch. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 23: 0:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD8437B423 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4360TM96882 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F83D380A for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010503052418.CF81E380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:00:29 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010503060029.4F83D380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > > > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > > > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > > > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. > > > > I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. > > Some things I forgot to mention.. I'm using the same access list that > ftp.freesoftware.com had for the mirror class. If you were mirroring > anonymously, you will need to get in touch. One other final comment. If you want to have a look around, just use rsync rsync://ftp-master/FreeBSD/where/ever/ and it will give you a directory listing. You can use this if you want to start with some specific parts. I recommend: releases/i386/4.3-RELEASE/ (225MB) releases/alpha/4.3-RELEASE/ (182MB) ports/i386/packages-4.3-release/ (3.8G) (ports/alpha/packages-4.3-release is there, but broken. symlinks got copied as duplicate files somehow. :-( ) This will relieve some pressure of the usw*.freebsd.org machines, which have saturated their available bandwidth. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 23:21:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E5E37B422 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f436LGM96932 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91EA380A for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010503060029.4F83D380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:21:16 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010503062116.B91EA380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > Peter Wemm wrote: > > > Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > > > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > > > > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > > > > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > > > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > > > > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. > > > > > > I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. > > > > Some things I forgot to mention.. I'm using the same access list that > > ftp.freesoftware.com had for the mirror class. If you were mirroring > > anonymously, you will need to get in touch. > > One other final comment... OK, so that was wishful thinking. For the early stages, it might be advisable to add: --exclude branches --exclude FreeBSD-CVS --exclude mailing-lists to the command line. These have many, many files and take quite a while to sync up. While we are in catch-up mode, I think it would be an idea to leave these out for the moment. An alternative may be to cvsup these files directly and completely bypass ftp-master. There are supfiles in these areas, as well as in doc/mailing-lists/ Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 23:26:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3374537B440 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:26:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f436QgO01469; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:26:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:26:43 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Peter Wemm Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010503062116.B91EA380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 May 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > --exclude branches --exclude FreeBSD-CVS --exclude mailing-lists > to the command line. These have many, many files and take quite a while > to sync up. While we are in catch-up mode, I think it would be > an idea to leave these out for the moment. > > An alternative may be to cvsup these files directly and completely bypass > ftp-master. There are supfiles in these areas, as well as in > doc/mailing-lists/ i highly recommend using cvsup to manager the FreeBSD-CVS tree as well as all the branches tree. IMHO it's a bit tricker to setup and maintain CVSup if you haven't before, but it handles those trees much better than rsync. of course this assumes one is cvsupping either from cvsup-master, or that ftp-master will also maintain a cvsupd for mirrors. -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed May 2 23:31:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4FE37B43F for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f436VLO02012; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:31:21 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:31:22 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Peter Wemm Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010503060029.4F83D380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 May 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > ports/i386/packages-4.3-release/ (3.8G) > > (ports/alpha/packages-4.3-release is there, but broken. symlinks got copied > as duplicate files somehow. :-( ) er.. is that a mistake above ? that's a significant jump for the package tree - by more than 1 gigabyte from 4.2-release. i'm trying to figure out what on earth would use more than 1G.. (a freebsd release of MSOffice ? :-) 2734792 packages-4.2-release -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 0: 6:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from casimir.physics.purdue.edu (casimir.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F376737B423 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 00:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: by casimir.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 028D01C0E3; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:02:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 02:02:24 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: jason andrade Cc: Peter Wemm , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method Message-ID: <20010503020224.R5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <20010503060029.4F83D380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8OLezhwaZ8w3s/dZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from jason@dstc.edu.au on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 04:31:22PM +1000 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 sparc64 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --8OLezhwaZ8w3s/dZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 04:31:22PM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > er.. is that a mistake above ? that's a significant jump for the package > tree - by more than 1 gigabyte from 4.2-release. i'm trying to figure out > what on earth would use more than 1G.. (a freebsd release of MSOffice ? := -) We gained 865 packages and 918 ports between the releases, for a grand total of about 850MB more packages. Ports has simply grown at an extremely amazing pace between 4.2R and 4.3R (that and the fact that 4.3R was released about a month off contributed). In fact, I believe there are at least two week-long periods where we gained 100+ ports. --=20 wca --8OLezhwaZ8w3s/dZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE68QKAF47idPgWcsURArwNAKCJlJLHlRX696dSyMkXbHN8cQGCnQCZAdGh kcCSkmPHD//lVGipclUEml4= =oeDj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8OLezhwaZ8w3s/dZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 1: 2: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D2D37B423 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ([131.159.24.91] HELO atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ident: IDENT-NONSENSE [port 1742]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <113643-238>; Thu, 3 May 2001 10:01:54 +0000 Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id EB03613667; Thu, 3 May 2001 10:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:01:42 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: Peter Wemm Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method Message-ID: <20010503100142.B94748@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010503051020.7BDCB380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010503051020.7BDCB380A@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:10:20PM -0700 X-Geek: GCS d-- s: a- C++ UB++++$ P+++$ L- E W+++(--) N+ o K w--- O? M- V@ PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5@ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear folks, Peter Wemm wrote on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:10:20PM -0700: [..] > The command you probably want to do a full mirror is: > rsync -vaz --delete rsync://ftp-master.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/ ~ftp/pub/FreeBSD/ I would suggest, maybe not to use the -z option for two reasons: - Many of the files are already compressed, thus yielding no advantage, but CPU load - At least the iso images won't sync with -z: [..] receiving file list ... done ISO-IMAGES/ ISO-IMAGES/4.2-install.iso deflate on token returned 0 (16384 bytes left) unexpected EOF in read_timeout unexpected EOF in read_timeout Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Agartim billiard bumba m'abdul in papejim twista - rumba rock n rolla. Leik'ab mai. Spirzon Heroin se'osit gaula. - - Marijuana esit gaula. Haschisch. Opis. - *Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 2:12:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D480B37B422 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f439CiM97637 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873A1380A; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Daniel Lang Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010503100142.B94748@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 02:12:44 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010503091244.873A1380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel Lang wrote: > Dear folks, > > Peter Wemm wrote on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:10:20PM -0700: > [..] > > The command you probably want to do a full mirror is: > > rsync -vaz --delete rsync://ftp-master.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/ ~ftp/pub/FreeBS D/ > > I would suggest, maybe not to use the -z option for two reasons: > > - Many of the files are already compressed, thus yielding > no advantage, but CPU load > - At least the iso images won't sync with -z: > [..] > receiving file list ... done > ISO-IMAGES/ > ISO-IMAGES/4.2-install.iso > deflate on token returned 0 (16384 bytes left) > unexpected EOF in read_timeout > unexpected EOF in read_timeout Bah. rsyncd.conf(5) explicitly lists .iso, .tgz etc as files that are *not* re-compressed by -z. I've rsync'ed these files a couple of times now for testing.. (you are using 2.4.6, right?) Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 3:22:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7E437B424 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 03:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ([131.159.24.91] HELO atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ident: IDENT-NONSENSE [port 1887]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <114109-234>; Thu, 3 May 2001 12:22:52 +0000 Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id 512B113667; Thu, 3 May 2001 12:22:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:22:50 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: Peter Wemm Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method Message-ID: <20010503122250.B95086@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20010503100142.B94748@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <20010503091244.873A1380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010503091244.873A1380A@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 02:12:44AM -0700 X-Geek: GCS d-- s: a- C++ UB++++$ P+++$ L- E W+++(--) N+ o K w--- O? M- V@ PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5@ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Peter, Peter Wemm wrote on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 02:12:44AM -0700: [..] > Bah. rsyncd.conf(5) explicitly lists .iso, .tgz etc as files that are > *not* re-compressed by -z. I've rsync'ed these files a couple of times now > for testing.. (you are using 2.4.6, right?) Aye: ftpadmin@atleo4:~>rsync --version rsync version 2.4.6 protocol version 24 Written by Andrew Tridgell and Paul Mackerras Strange, though :-/ Bye, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - signs of absurd developments in the net community: #42: - "Wurstbrot gehoert m.E. zum Fruehstuecks-botnet von Cartoon" - *Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 6:25:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FB037B422 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 06:25:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27476 for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 May 2001 09:25:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Smith Message-Id: <200105031325.JAA27476@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> Subject: Re: ftp-master method To: hubs@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:25:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "jason andrade" at May 03, 2001 04:26:43 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: jason andrade > To: Peter Wemm > Subject: Re: ftp-master method > > i highly recommend using cvsup to manager the FreeBSD-CVS tree as well > as all the branches tree. IMHO it's a bit tricker to setup and maintain > CVSup if you haven't before, but it handles those trees much better > than rsync. > Idle and probably dumb question... Why keep them in the FTP archive at all? Sorry if this has been beaten to death before, I've only been on the list for a month and I only checked through this year's archived messages to "get caught up"... I've been running unpublished ftp-mirror and cvs-mirror machines for a while now and haven't been able to figure out why the FTP archive needed to overlap the CVSup servers for the above mentioned stuff but figured there was probably some reason. The only reason I got up the nerve to ask was there seem to be some growing pains being worked out and maybe this was an old artifact no longer necessary but nobody has thought about it recently. ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 8: 7:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF17537B422 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 08:07:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06139; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:07:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:07:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200105031507.LAA06139@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Ken Smith Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <200105031325.JAA27476@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <200105031325.JAA27476@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > Idle and probably dumb question... Why keep them in the FTP archive > at all? I think it's for history and convenience, mostly. Not everybody has cvsup available, and sometimes people who aren't part of the FreeBSD community may wish to look at our source code. On ftp5 I don't keep the CVS tree -- public access to that is better provided through CVSweb -- but I do have the branch sources which can be more convenient (if you're trying to grab all the files in a particular directory) than going through CVSweb. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 9:14:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.2.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A5837B424 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 09:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdugan@ncsa.uiuc.edu) Received: from mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.2.8]) by ex1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f43GEMO20051; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:14:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Envelope-From: jdugan@ncsa.uiuc.edu Received: from anduril.ncsa.uiuc.edu (anduril.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.102.3]) by mx1.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f43GEJY28158; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:14:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jdugan by anduril.ncsa.uiuc.edu with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14vLkB-00035f-00; Thu, 03 May 2001 11:14:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:14:18 -0500 From: Jon Dugan To: Peter Wemm Cc: hubs@freebsd.org, Tony Rimovsky Subject: Re: ftp-master method Message-ID: <20010503111418.A11797@ncsa.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20010503052418.CF81E380A@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:24:18PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been mirroring from ftp3 via rsync anononymously for a few weeks now. I have received my boss's approval to go ahead and become an official mirror. I haven't turned on anonymous ftp yet, but I'm going to be doing that just after I send this mail. I am also up for running an rsync server to allow downstream mirrors and anonymous rsync access. I'm willing to dedicate the time and energy to making sure this system is highly available. We use FreeBSD extensively in the networking group here, and this is one of they ways we can give something back to the project. Our connectivity is as follows: OC12 to Abilene OC12 to vBNS+ OC3 to the AADS (Chicago) NAP (peering with several providers there) DS3 to Verio Our connectivity is a bit skewed towards the research and education community, but we have plenty of bandwidth to the commodity internet. Could you add reflection.ncsa.uiuc.edu to the mirror access list? How do I go about being listed as an official mirror? Do I just need to send mail to hostmaster@FreeBSD.org and request the next available ftp DNS record? On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:24:18PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > > > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > > > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > > > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. > > > > I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. > > Some things I forgot to mention.. I'm using the same access list that > ftp.freesoftware.com had for the mirror class. If you were mirroring > anonymously, you will need to get in touch. > > Cheers, > -Peter > -- > Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au > "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message -- Jon Dugan | Senior Network Engineer, NCSA Network Development jdugan@ncsa.uiuc.edu | 57C CAB, 605 E Springfield, Champaign, IL 61820 217/244-7715 | http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/people/jdugan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 11:22:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com [209.247.77.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC07C37B43C for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gordont@bluemtn.net) Received: from localhost (gordont@localhost) by sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (8.11.3/8.11.2/BMA1.1) with ESMTP id f43IKj075057; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:20:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Gordon Tetlow X-X-Sender: To: Jon Dugan Cc: Peter Wemm , , Tony Rimovsky Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010503111418.A11797@ncsa.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At this rate, we are going to nail the magic number of 8 primary first-tier mirrors for the ftp.freebsd.org round-robin. After that the load gets weird with some machines getting more load than others. It would probably be beneficial to use ultra-dns or some other closest hop first technology. Has anyone taken a look at it? or did I just volunteer myself? =) -gordon On Thu, 3 May 2001, Jon Dugan wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:14:18 -0500 > From: Jon Dugan > To: Peter Wemm > Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, Tony Rimovsky > Subject: Re: ftp-master method > > I have been mirroring from ftp3 via rsync anononymously for a few weeks now. > > I have received my boss's approval to go ahead and become an official > mirror. I haven't turned on anonymous ftp yet, but I'm going to be doing > that just after I send this mail. I am also up for running an rsync server > to allow downstream mirrors and anonymous rsync access. > > I'm willing to dedicate the time and energy to making sure this system is > highly available. We use FreeBSD extensively in the networking group here, > and this is one of they ways we can give something back to the project. > > Our connectivity is as follows: > > OC12 to Abilene > OC12 to vBNS+ > OC3 to the AADS (Chicago) NAP (peering with several providers there) > DS3 to Verio > > Our connectivity is a bit skewed towards the research and education > community, but we have plenty of bandwidth to the commodity internet. > > Could you add reflection.ncsa.uiuc.edu to the mirror access list? > > How do I go about being listed as an official mirror? Do I just need to > send mail to hostmaster@FreeBSD.org and request the next available ftp DNS > record? > > On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:24:18PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Peter Wemm wrote: > > > Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > > > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > > > > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > > > > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > > > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > > > > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. > > > > > > I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. > > > > Some things I forgot to mention.. I'm using the same access list that > > ftp.freesoftware.com had for the mirror class. If you were mirroring > > anonymously, you will need to get in touch. > > > > Cheers, > > -Peter > > -- > > Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au > > "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > > -- > Jon Dugan | Senior Network Engineer, NCSA Network Development > jdugan@ncsa.uiuc.edu | 57C CAB, 605 E Springfield, Champaign, IL 61820 > 217/244-7715 | http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/people/jdugan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 13: 1:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from stinky.ca.360networks.net (stinky.ca.360networks.net [64.251.100.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7A337B424 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 13:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmayo@360networks.net) Received: by stinky.ca.360networks.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EB94860E01; Thu, 3 May 2001 13:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:01:48 -0700 From: Mark Mayo To: Daniel Lang Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method Message-ID: <20010503130148.A79203@360networks.net> References: <20010503100142.B94748@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <20010503091244.873A1380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20010503122250.B95086@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010503122250.B95086@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>; from dl@leo.org on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:22:50PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FWIW, I've had no problems rsync'ing the ISO images. rsync 2.4.6 as well. -Mark On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:22:50PM +0200, Daniel Lang wrote: > Dear Peter, > > Peter Wemm wrote on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 02:12:44AM -0700: > [..] > > Bah. rsyncd.conf(5) explicitly lists .iso, .tgz etc as files that are > > *not* re-compressed by -z. I've rsync'ed these files a couple of times now > > for testing.. (you are using 2.4.6, right?) > Aye: > > ftpadmin@atleo4:~>rsync --version > rsync version 2.4.6 protocol version 24 > > Written by Andrew Tridgell and Paul Mackerras > > Strange, though :-/ > > Bye, > Daniel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 13:41:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1026237B424 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 13:41:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14vPuv-000Hj3-00 for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 May 2001 20:41:41 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f43KidK01871 for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 May 2001 22:44:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 22:44:38 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: diskspace requirements for ftp-mirror Message-ID: <20010503224438.C1560@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I'm working to see if I can get an additional well-connected FreeBSD ftp-mirror in Amsterdam. It is sitting (almost) on top of the AMSIX, currently with 100Mbit connected but 1Gbit is under discussion as we speak. The concurrent release of Mandrake and RedHat spurred this discussion. What I'm looking for is the amount of diskspace a full FreeBSD ftp mirror would take. I assume we don't need to mirror the ports distfiles? If this is a FAQ please tell me where to RTFM tnx Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 14:44:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from stinky.ca.360networks.net (stinky.ca.360networks.net [64.251.100.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BC637B424 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 14:44:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmayo@360networks.net) Received: by stinky.ca.360networks.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EAE2960E01; Thu, 3 May 2001 14:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:44:36 -0700 From: Mark Mayo To: Wilko Bulte Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskspace requirements for ftp-mirror Message-ID: <20010503144436.B79203@360networks.net> References: <20010503224438.C1560@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010503224438.C1560@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 10:44:38PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FAQ is the mailing list archives, as I found out. :) Looks like a complete mirror requires ~50GB right now, but I'm planning for close to 100GB by year's end, personally. -Mark On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 10:44:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm working to see if I can get an additional well-connected FreeBSD > ftp-mirror in Amsterdam. It is sitting (almost) on top of the AMSIX, > currently with 100Mbit connected but 1Gbit is under discussion as we > speak. The concurrent release of Mandrake and RedHat spurred this > discussion. > > What I'm looking for is the amount of diskspace a full FreeBSD ftp > mirror would take. I assume we don't need to mirror the ports distfiles? > > If this is a FAQ please tell me where to RTFM > > tnx > Wilko > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu May 3 19: 2:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A30537B423 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4422pM00555 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F2E380A; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: diskspace requirements for ftp-mirror In-Reply-To: <20010503224438.C1560@freebie.demon.nl> Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 19:02:51 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010504020251.D5F2E380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm working to see if I can get an additional well-connected FreeBSD > ftp-mirror in Amsterdam. It is sitting (almost) on top of the AMSIX, > currently with 100Mbit connected but 1Gbit is under discussion as we > speak. The concurrent release of Mandrake and RedHat spurred this > discussion. > > What I'm looking for is the amount of diskspace a full FreeBSD ftp > mirror would take. I assume we don't need to mirror the ports distfiles? > > If this is a FAQ please tell me where to RTFM Right now: peter@ftp-master[6:52pm]~-91# df /archive Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/twed2s1e 79781671 50370927 23028211 69% /archive (yes, that is a hardware mirror) Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 7:18:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53B337B422; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 841025D60; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:18:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:18:35 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Peter Wemm Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftp-master method Message-ID: <20010504161835.J85037@skriver.dk> References: <20010503051020.7BDCB380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20010503052418.CF81E380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010503052418.CF81E380A@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:24:18PM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:24:18PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > > > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > > > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > > > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. > > > > I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. > > Some things I forgot to mention.. I'm using the same access list that > ftp.freesoftware.com had for the mirror class. If you were mirroring > anonymously, you will need to get in touch. I'd like you to add inet 193.162.159.98 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 193.162.159.127 inet 195.249.6.93 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 195.249.6.95 Both are interfaces on ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org Could you please use the list I compiled for jkh which he use at the temporary ftp.FreeBSD.org ? jkh made a few additions so it's probably best if you get a up to date copy from him, but the attached email is what I sent to him /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:12:37 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heads up on 4.3-RELEASE on "ftp.freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20010423001237.H4193@skriver.dk> References: <20010421134015J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010422171024.C478@skriver.dk> <20010422101837G.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010422101837G.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:18:37AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:18:37AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Would it be possible for the mirrors to be put into a second access > > group, it's impossible to connect now, and at least ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org > > currently don't have 4.3-RELEASE due to this ... > > I sure wish I'd managed to get a copy of the ftpaccess file off of > ftp.freesoftware.com before it disappeared or I'd have used that. > I could add another access class, to be sure, but first I need > to reconstruct who all the mirrors are. :( The following is constructed from the zone files jesper@freesbee% dig axfr freebsd.org @ns1.root.com|grep ftp ctm 1H IN CNAME ftp.uni-trier.de. ftp10 1H IN CNAME fadeto.blackened.com. ftp11 1H IN CNAME onion.valueclick.com. ftp2 1H IN A 129.250.31.161 ftp3 1H IN CNAME raven.cslab.vt.edu. ftp4 1H IN CNAME burka.rdy.com. ftp5 1H IN CNAME xyz.lcs.mit.edu. ftp6 1H IN CNAME mirrors.rcn.com. ftp7 1H IN CNAME ftp.arl.mil. ftp8 1H IN CNAME ftp.stealth.net. ftp9 1H IN CNAME ftp.cerias.purdue.edu. ftp 1H IN CNAME usw3 ftp.lt 1D IN CNAME ocean.delfi.lt. ftp.nl 1D IN CNAME ftp.nl.uu.net. ftp2.nl 1D IN CNAME ftp.nluug.nl. ftp2.no 1D IN CNAME trane.uninett.no. ftp.no 1D IN CNAME sunsite.uio.no. ftp.bg 2h23m20s IN A 212.91.180.1 ftp.ar 1D IN CNAME gaucho.ar.freebsd.org. ftp3.pl 10H IN CNAME grendel.dermak.pl. ftp.pl 10H IN CNAME sunsite.icm.edu.pl. ftp2.pl 10H IN CNAME ftp.iem.pw.edu.pl. ftp.at 2H IN CNAME mingus.wu-wien.ac.at. ftp3.au 12H IN CNAME www.au.freebsd.org. ftp4.au 12H IN A 131.170.118.50 ftp5.au 12H IN CNAME minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au. ftp6.au 12H IN CNAME ftp2.fl.net.au. ftp7.au 12H IN CNAME ftp.itworks.com.au. ftp2.au 12H IN CNAME ftp.tas.gov.au. ftp.au 12H IN CNAME mirror.aarnet.edu.au. ftp3.pt 8H IN CNAME ftp.ip.pt. ftp2.pt 8H IN A 193.136.198.200 ftp.pt 8H IN CNAME ftp.ua.pt. ftp1.de 3H IN CNAME ftp.apfel.de. ftp2.de 3H IN CNAME filepile.nacamar.net. ftp3.de 3H IN CNAME ftp.tu-dresden.de. ftp4.de 3H IN CNAME ftp.leo.org. ftp5.de 3H IN CNAME ftp.gigabell.net. ftp6.de 3H IN CNAME ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de. ftp7.de 3H IN CNAME ftp.tu-clausthal.de. ftp3.dk 1D IN CNAME mirror03.inet.tele.dk. ftp2.dk 1D IN CNAME thot.dkuug.dk. ftp.dk 1D IN CNAME boulder.tele.dk. ftp.se 1D IN A 130.240.16.110 ftp-bal.se 1D IN A 130.240.16.110 ftp-bal.se 1D IN A 130.242.206.33 ftp-bal.se 1D IN A 130.242.206.41 ftp2.se 1D IN CNAME ftp.stacken.kth.se. ftp3.se 1D IN CNAME ftp.sunet.se. ftp4.se 1D IN CNAME ftp.raditex.se. ftp.sk 12H IN CNAME ftp.nextra.sk. ftp3.internat 1H IN A 196.30.227.198 ftp4.internat 1H IN CNAME ftp.is.co.za. ftp2.internat 1H IN CNAME storm.sea.uct.ac.za. ftp.internat 1H IN A 146.64.8.4 ftp.cz 1D IN CNAME www.freebsd.cz. ftp3.ru 2D IN CNAME ftp.chg.ru. ftp4.ru 2D IN CNAME ftp.gamma.ru. ftp3.ua 1D IN A 193.124.228.3 ftp.ua 1D IN A 193.193.193.113 ftp.fi 2H IN A 195.74.0.82 ftp.fi 2H IN A 195.74.0.83 ftp3.es 2D IN A 158.227.6.47 ftp.es 2D IN CNAME ftp.worldonline.es. ftp2.es 2D IN A 194.179.50.21 ftp3.eu 1D IN CNAME ftp.ibp.fr. ftp4.eu 1D IN CNAME ftp.kiae.su. ftp5.eu 1D IN CNAME ftp.luth.se. ftp2.eu 1D IN CNAME ftp.funet.fi. ftp.eu 1D IN CNAME mail.apfel.de. ftp3.uk 1H IN CNAME ftp.demon.co.uk. ftp4.uk 1H IN CNAME src.doc.ic.ac.uk. ftp5.uk 1H IN CNAME karma.freebsd-uk.eu.org. ftp6.uk 1H IN CNAME storm.freebsd.org.uk. ftp.uk 1H IN CNAME ftp.plig.net. ftp2.uk 1H IN CNAME freebsd.mirror.ac.uk. ftp3.fr 2D IN CNAME soleil.uvsq.fr. ftp4.fr 2D IN CNAME altair.worldonline.fr. ftp5.fr 2D IN CNAME ns1.bsdfr.org. ftp6.fr 2D IN CNAME nephtys.lip6.fr. ftp42.fr 2D IN CNAME soleil.uvsq.fr. ftp1.fr 2D IN CNAME guinness.domicile.fr. ftp2.fr 2D IN CNAME rork.net.univ-angers.fr. ftp.fr 2D IN CNAME guinness.domicile.fr. ftp1.tw 3D IN CNAME freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw. ftp2.tw 3D IN CNAME bsd.sinica.edu.tw. ftp3.tw 3D IN CNAME ccuftp.ccu.edu.tw. ftp4.tw 3D IN CNAME ftp.ee.ncku.edu.tw. ftp5.tw 3D IN CNAME ftp.nctu.edu.tw. ftp6.tw 3D IN CNAME qrq.cc.ntu.edu.tw. ftp7.tw 3D IN CNAME ftp.NHCTC.edu.tw. ftp8.tw 3D IN CNAME ftp.tku.edu.tw. ftp9.tw 3D IN CNAME ftp.chu.edu.tw. ftp.tw 3D IN CNAME freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw. ftp2.gr 1D IN A 192.108.114.80 ftp.gr 1D IN CNAME ftp.ntua.gr. ftp.hk 1D IN A 168.70.221.232 ftp.ie 1D IN CNAME siobhra.indigo.ie. ftp2.ie 1D IN CNAME ftp.esat.net. ftp.hu 1D IN CNAME medusa.ik.bme.hu. ftp.it 1D IN A 192.132.34.126 ftp3.za 1H IN A 196.30.227.198 ftp4.za 1H IN CNAME ftp.is.co.za. ftp2.za 1H IN CNAME storm.sea.uct.ac.za. ftp.za 1H IN A 146.64.8.4 ftp-kyoto.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.meida.kyoto-u.ac.jp. ftp1.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.jpix.ad.jp. ftp2.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.nisiq.net. ftp3.jp 1H IN CNAME freebsd-mirror.ring.gr.jp. ftp4.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp. ftp5.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.ee.uec.ac.jp. ftp6.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp. ftp7.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.itjit.ne.jp. ftp.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.jpix.ad.jp. ftp-aizu.jp 1H IN CNAME ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp. ftp3.kr 1D IN CNAME ftp.dacom.co.kr. ftp4.kr 1D IN CNAME ftp.nuri.net. ftp5.kr 1D IN CNAME ftp.cau.ac.kr. ftp6.kr 1D IN CNAME kfug.kr.freebsd.org. ftp7.kr 1D IN CNAME ftp.sayclub.com. ftp2.kr 1D IN CNAME daemon.kr.freebsd.org. ftp.kr 1D IN CNAME daemon.kr.freebsd.org. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 7:30:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [193.219.211.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF46937B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from domas.mituzas@delfi.lt) Received: from localhost (midom@localhost) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44EUMS13505 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:30:23 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: axis.tdd.lt: midom owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:30:22 +0200 (EET) From: Domas Mituzas X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010504161835.J85037@skriver.dk> Message-ID: <20010504162821.J12818-100000@axis.tdd.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, could you add please to ftp-master 193.219.195.227 (fetcher.delfi.lt) 213.197.128.70 (ocean.delfi.lt) both ip's are used for ftp.lt.freebsd.org. Thanks, Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 7:53:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E4C37B423; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f44ErcM02802; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCC6380C; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jesper Skriver Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010504161835.J85037@skriver.dk> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 07:53:38 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010504145338.9BCC6380C@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesper Skriver wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:24:18PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Peter Wemm wrote: > > > Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > > > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > > > > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > > > > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > > > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > > > > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. > > > > > > I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. > > > > Some things I forgot to mention.. I'm using the same access list that > > ftp.freesoftware.com had for the mirror class. If you were mirroring > > anonymously, you will need to get in touch. > > I'd like you to add > > inet 193.162.159.98 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 193.162.159.127 > inet 195.249.6.93 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 195.249.6.95 > > Both are interfaces on ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org Done. We already had the first, I added the second. > Could you please use the list I compiled for jkh which he use at the > temporary ftp.FreeBSD.org ? > > jkh made a few additions so it's probably best if you get a up to date > copy from him, but the attached email is what I sent to him jkh sent me the current ftpacces list, and quite a few ftp*.freebsd.org mirrors were since added since they were previously mirroring anonymously. I have some domestic administration to deal with first for a few hours, I'll go through this list shortly and make sure nobody got missed. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 7:53:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BD037B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f44EruM02814 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3543C380E; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Domas Mituzas Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010504162821.J12818-100000@axis.tdd.lt> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 07:53:56 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010504145356.3543C380E@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Domas Mituzas wrote: > Hi, > > could you add please to ftp-master > > 193.219.195.227 (fetcher.delfi.lt) > 213.197.128.70 (ocean.delfi.lt) > > both ip's are used for ftp.lt.freebsd.org. Done. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 7:58:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mother.ludd.luth.se (mother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C2537B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:58:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johan@ludd.luth.se) Received: from brother.ludd.luth.se (brother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.78]) by mother.ludd.luth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09603; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:57:57 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:57:54 +0200 (MEST) From: Johan Larsson To: Peter Wemm Cc: Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010503052418.CF81E380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: X-uri: http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/johan/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 May 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > > How about cvsup? It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, > > > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > > > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, > > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. And I'll bet it's a bit > > > faster than rsync, to put it mildly. > > > > I think we're just about ready to go, at least for the rsync clients. > > Some things I forgot to mention.. I'm using the same access list that > ftp.freesoftware.com had for the mirror class. If you were mirroring > anonymously, you will need to get in touch. ftp.se.freebsd.org IP: 130.240.16.110 Thanks! Johan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 8:20:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE2437B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:20:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.45.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6569013854C for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f44FKGt10679; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:20:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15090.51376.551458.918293@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:20:16 -0400 To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: cvsupd config files? X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone got (in a semi public place) example cvsupd configuration files such that I'm not starting from scratch to enable a new cvsupd mirror? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 8:24: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mother.ludd.luth.se (mother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BE337B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:24:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pantzer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by mother.ludd.luth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11110; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:23:52 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200105041523.RAA11110@mother.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsupd config files? In-Reply-To: Message from David Gilbert of "Fri, 04 May 2001 11:20:16 EDT." <15090.51376.551458.918293@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:22:31 +0200 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Has anyone got (in a semi public place) example cvsupd configuration > files such that I'm not starting from scratch to enable a new cvsupd > mirror? net/cvsup-mirror in ports. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 9:45: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4102837B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44Giv029853; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f44GiuO54477; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105041644.f44GiuO54477@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Reply-To: hubs@freebsd.org Cc: will@physics.purdue.edu Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> References: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>, Will Andrews wrote: > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > How about cvsup? I've suggested this a few times myself. I haven't heard any arguments against it, but nobody ever seems to consider it seriously for this application. It wouldn't be hard to try it and find out how well it works. > It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, Well, to be fair, I doubt it compresses quite as well as rsync. (Rsync is tuned better.) But CVSup probably streams better, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was faster overall in terms of elapsed time. > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, All true. > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. Hmm -- maybe, maybe not. It uses a lot of CPU for dealing with RCS files, because it parses them and edits them and generally spends a lot of time grokking them. The rsync algorithm is much simpler, so CVSup's CPU usage should be better for that case. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 10: 3:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from lab.cyberlifelabs.com (lab.cyberlifelabs.com [208.201.255.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9100037B43C for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from milo@cyberlifelabs.com) Received: (qmail 29654 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 17:03:14 -0000 Received: from win2k.lab.cyberlifelabs.com (HELO win2k) (208.201.255.3) by lab.cyberlifelabs.com with SMTP; 4 May 2001 17:03:14 -0000 From: "Milo Hyson" To: Cc: Subject: RE: ftp-master method Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:03:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200105041644.f44GiuO54477@vashon.polstra.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've been running CVSup for FreeBSD, PostgreSQL and KDE for quite a while now. It does eat up quite a bit of CPU time. A single update across a T1 dropped about 12% of an otherwise idle P2-400. - Milo Hyson CyberLife Labs, LLC -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of John Polstra Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:45 AM To: hubs@freebsd.org Cc: will@physics.purdue.edu Subject: Re: ftp-master method In article <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>, Will Andrews wrote: > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > How about cvsup? I've suggested this a few times myself. I haven't heard any arguments against it, but nobody ever seems to consider it seriously for this application. It wouldn't be hard to try it and find out how well it works. > It uses the rsync algorithm with some optimizations, Well, to be fair, I doubt it compresses quite as well as rsync. (Rsync is tuned better.) But CVSup probably streams better, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was faster overall in terms of elapsed time. > and can be configured to have a maximum number of deletions, and has > several methods of excluding files. It also requires little memory, All true. > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. Hmm -- maybe, maybe not. It uses a lot of CPU for dealing with RCS files, because it parses them and edits them and generally spends a lot of time grokking them. The rsync algorithm is much simpler, so CVSup's CPU usage should be better for that case. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 11:17:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323C037B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44IH7030264; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f44IH6H54699; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:17:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105041817.f44IH6H54699@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Reply-To: hubs@freebsd.org Cc: milo@cyberlifelabs.com Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article , Milo Hyson wrote: > We've been running CVSup for FreeBSD, PostgreSQL and KDE for quite a while > now. It does eat up quite a bit of CPU time. Yes, that's for RCS files, as I explained in my mail: > > > although it does hurt when it comes to cpu. > > > > Hmm -- maybe, maybe not. It uses a lot of CPU for dealing with RCS > > files, because it parses them and edits them and generally spends a > > lot of time grokking them. The rsync algorithm is much simpler, so > > CVSup's CPU usage should be better for that case. When updating normal files CVSup will use the rsync algorithm, which I'd expect to use less CPU time. Also, CPU time isn't everything. If rsync uses too much RAM to be viable, then CVSup is an attractive alternative even if it turns out to be a little bit slower. I don't see much point in speculating about it when an actual test is so easy to perform. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 12:12:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F5837B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.45.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901C7137F5C for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f44JCQx42158; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:12:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:12:26 -0400 To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: cvsupd error? X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Server warning: RCS file error in "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER,v": 1: "head" expected I get a slew of these from my cvsupd server when I cvsup against it. What should a do to correct it? maybe remove the files and run an update? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 12:17:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from casimir.physics.purdue.edu (casimir.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576BC37B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: by casimir.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 903891BD1D; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:12:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:12:45 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsupd error? Message-ID: <20010504141245.G3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:12:26PM -0400 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 sparc64 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:12:26PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > I get a slew of these from my cvsupd server when I cvsup against it. > What should a do to correct it? maybe remove the files and run an > update? Yeah.. somehow you got corrupted files. That's happened to me before; I just remove the files and update again. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 12:17:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [193.219.211.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C26B37B43C for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from domas.mituzas@delfi.lt) Received: from localhost (midom@localhost) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44JHIC55524; Fri, 4 May 2001 21:17:18 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: axis.tdd.lt: midom owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:17:18 +0200 (EET) From: Domas Mituzas X-X-Sender: To: David Gilbert Cc: Subject: Re: cvsupd error? In-Reply-To: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> Message-ID: <20010504211651.Y55463-100000@axis.tdd.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I get a slew of these from my cvsupd server when I cvsup against it. > What should a do to correct it? maybe remove the files and run an > update? or update your files without -s flag. Anyway, your way would work also. Regards, Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 12:27: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC70437B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.45.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFD5137F2B; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f44JR3i44023; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:27:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15091.646.976873.766797@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:27:02 -0400 To: Will Andrews Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsupd error? In-Reply-To: <20010504141245.G3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> <20010504141245.G3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Will" == Will Andrews writes: Will> On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:12:26PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: >> I get a slew of these from my cvsupd server when I cvsup against >> it. What should a do to correct it? maybe remove the files and >> run an update? Will> Yeah.. somehow you got corrupted files. That's happened to me Will> before; I just remove the files and update again. OK... this is wierd. The files in question don't exist in the repository and I'm not using -s. I'm doubly confused now. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 12:29:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from casimir.physics.purdue.edu (casimir.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBCB37B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: by casimir.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C31C1BD1D; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:24:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:24:41 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: David Gilbert Cc: Will Andrews , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsupd error? Message-ID: <20010504142441.I3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> <20010504141245.G3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <15091.646.976873.766797@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <15091.646.976873.766797@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:27:02PM -0400 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 sparc64 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:27:02PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > OK... this is wierd. The files in question don't exist in the > repository and I'm not using -s. I'm doubly confused now. Uh.. src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER,v sure does exist: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 12:45: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884FB37B43C for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44Jix030747; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f44Jiwq54875; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105041944.f44Jiwq54875@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: dgilbert@velocet.ca Subject: Re: cvsupd error? In-Reply-To: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net>, David Gilbert wrote: > Server warning: RCS file error in "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER,v": 1: "head" expected > > I get a slew of these from my cvsupd server when I cvsup against it. > What should a do to correct it? maybe remove the files and run an > update? Nope, the bad file is on the server, not on your machine. I can tell because it says "Server warning" at the beginning of the message. Please inform the maintainer of your master site about this ASAP. Thanks, John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 13:25: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A858D37B424 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ([131.159.24.91] HELO atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ident: IDENT-NONSENSE [port 2217]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <114661-235>; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:24:56 +0000 Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id 1F6CD13667; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:24:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:24:58 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: John Polstra Cc: hubs@freebsd.org, dgilbert@velocet.ca Subject: Re: cvsupd error? Message-ID: <20010504222458.E98281@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> <200105041944.f44Jiwq54875@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105041944.f44Jiwq54875@vashon.polstra.com>; from jdp@polstra.com on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:44:58PM -0700 X-Geek: GCS d-- s: a- C++ UB++++$ P+++$ L- E W+++(--) N+ o K w--- O? M- V@ PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5@ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, John Polstra wrote on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:44:58PM -0700: [..] > Nope, the bad file is on the server, not on your machine. I can > tell because it says "Server warning" at the beginning of the > message. Please inform the maintainer of your master site about > this ASAP. I guess thats me. This path in the warning message looked too familiar :-/ I also found the DISCLAIMER,v in the corresponding directory, deleted it, and started a manual update. I wonder how I could get the bad file. I update hourly from cvsup-master (with -s), but daily without (doing a 'hard' update). I had a disk-full problem, a couple of days ago, which corrupted our OpenBSD repository, and 'sup' was unable to repair it. Well, a full-scale reget solved the problem but not on some clients, who already got broken files, since cvsup only checked for timestamps. ... wait right now my cvsup reports this: [..] Create src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER,v [..] So I assume it in fact it must reside on cvsup-master. Could anyone confirm this ? Sorry for inconvieniences, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - signs of absurd developments in the net community: #42: - "Wurstbrot gehoert m.E. zum Fruehstuecks-botnet von Cartoon" - *Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 14: 0: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from owlstation.cslab.vt.edu (owlstation.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489BC37B43C for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkurdzio@snowcow.cslab.vt.edu) Received: from snowcow.cslab.vt.edu (snowcow.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.27]) by owlstation.cslab.vt.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f44Kxwb54524 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:59:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wkurdzio@snowcow.cslab.vt.edu) Received: from localhost (wkurdzio@localhost) by snowcow.cslab.vt.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f44KwRK93827 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:58:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wkurdzio@snowcow.cslab.vt.edu) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:58:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Wes Kurdziolek To: Subject: Ownership of files on ftp-master Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can we come to an agreement on which user and group should own the files on ftp-master? I'm watching the most of the files on rsync come down w/ a UID and GID of 100 while others have a UID of 758 and a GID of 100. I'd prefer if all the files were owned by nobody/nobody. Does anyone object to that? Peter, is this do-able? -- Wes Kurdziolek Virginia Tech Computer Science Lab UNIX System Administrator E-mail: wkurdzio@cslab.vt.edu Voice: +1 (540) 231-3457 Office: 116A McBryde Hall http://www.cslab.vt.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 14: 1:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B5337B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21686; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:01:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:01:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200105042101.RAA21686@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Wes Kurdziolek Cc: Subject: Ownership of files on ftp-master In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > Can we come to an agreement on which user and group should own the files > on ftp-master? I'm watching the most of the files on rsync come down w/ a > UID and GID of 100 while others have a UID of 758 and a GID of 100. I'd > prefer if all the files were owned by nobody/nobody. Does anyone object to > that? I'd suggest instead that you run rsync as an unprivileged user so that it can't change the ownership of the files. I am running rsync under `su -m mirror' and it seems to be able to deal just fine. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 14:23:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972A237B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.45.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A07137F1F; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f44LNEU58792; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:23:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15091.7618.363531.485751@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:23:14 -0400 To: Will Andrews Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsupd error? In-Reply-To: <20010504142441.I3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> <20010504141245.G3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <15091.646.976873.766797@trooper.velocet.net> <20010504142441.I3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Will" == Will Andrews writes: Will> On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:27:02PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: >> OK... this is wierd. The files in question don't exist in the >> repository and I'm not using -s. I'm doubly confused now. Will> Uh.. src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER,v sure does exist: Will> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER Oh, I have no bones with that assertion. It simply doesn't exist in my repository (so the "solution" of removing it doesn't exist). Since I'm not running with -s, I'm confused as to why the file isn't being re-fetched. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 14:31:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BB437B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.45.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69CA137F42; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f44LVZ559781; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:31:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15091.8119.233271.779461@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:31:35 -0400 To: John Polstra Cc: hubs@freebsd.org, dgilbert@velocet.ca Subject: Re: cvsupd error? In-Reply-To: <200105041944.f44Jiwq54875@vashon.polstra.com> References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> <200105041944.f44Jiwq54875@vashon.polstra.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "John" == John Polstra writes: John> In article <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net>, John> David Gilbert wrote: >> Server warning: RCS file error in >> "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER,v": >> 1: "head" expected >> >> I get a slew of these from my cvsupd server when I cvsup against >> it. What should a do to correct it? maybe remove the files and >> run an update? John> Nope, the bad file is on the server, not on your machine. I can John> tell because it says "Server warning" at the beginning of the John> message. Please inform the maintainer of your master site about John> this ASAP. Right ... but I'm running the server and the client in this instance. I'm also running a client to update the server, but the server is still missing these files. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 14:39:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C6837B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from defiant.we.lc.ehu.es (defiant [158.227.6.52]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f44LdlX06225 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 23:39:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jose@localhost) by defiant.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f44Ldlc75772 for hubs@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 4 May 2001 23:39:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jose) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 23:39:47 +0200 (CEST) From: José Mª Alcaide Message-Id: <200105042139.f44Ldlc75772@defiant.we.lc.ehu.es> To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftp-master method Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please add 158.227.6.47 (ftp3.es.freebsd.org) to the access list. Thanks! -- JMA ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 15:56:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt (fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt [194.65.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDF937B424 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpedras@webvolution.net) Received: from mobinho.tafkap.priv ([213.13.96.107]) by fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010504230420.GWXK27144.fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt@mobinho.tafkap.priv> for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 00:04:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 23:55:57 +0100 From: Joao Pedras To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: adding other stuff to the mirror Message-ID: <124580000.989016957@mobinho.tafkap.priv> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am thinking of adding OpenBSD to a cvsup mirror. How should I proceed ? I already have the tree and I have tweaked with some files, but I keep getting OpenBSD-all collection unknown. Tkx all Joao To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 15:58:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from casimir.physics.purdue.edu (casimir.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A6A37B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:58:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: by casimir.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D406D1BD1D; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:53:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:53:48 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Joao Pedras Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding other stuff to the mirror Message-ID: <20010504175348.E3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <124580000.989016957@mobinho.tafkap.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <124580000.989016957@mobinho.tafkap.priv>; from jpedras@webvolution.net on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:55:57PM +0100 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 sparc64 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:55:57PM +0100, Joao Pedras wrote: > I am thinking of adding OpenBSD to a cvsup mirror. > > How should I proceed ? > > I already have the tree and I have tweaked with some files, but I keep > getting OpenBSD-all collection unknown. Uhm.. this isn't an openbsd list (and hence the wrong place to ask). However, I do run cvsup.usa.openbsd.org. In a few days I will put up files to provide cvsup for FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD. Brian Somers may be able to help. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 16:10:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from firewall.f5.com (firewall.f5.com [207.17.117.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAE937B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j.hall@f5.com) Received: by firewall.f5.com; id PAA02222; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:51:18 GMT Received: from klar.f5.com(192.50.100.9) by firewall.f5.com via smap (4.1) id xma002198; Fri, 4 May 01 15:50:27 GMT Received: from f5.com by klar.f5.com; (8.8.7/1.1.8.2/18Jul96-1139AM) id QAA12732; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:14:06 -0700 Message-ID: <3AF336A4.2BECC507@f5.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:09:24 -0700 From: John Hall Organization: F5 Networks, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master method References: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <200105041644.f44GiuO54477@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by klar.f5.com id QAA12732 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I use cvsup to mirror about 50GB of FTP archives in addition to the FreeBSD cvsup trees. It works great. About 75% of the time an rsync took and about 20% of the time a mirror.pl took. One nice thing is that it balances the load between the server and client very nicely both in terms of CPU as well as network load. If you wanted to setup the server on ftp-master, I'd volunteer to test it... ;-) JMH John Polstra wrote: >=20 > In article <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>, Will > Andrews wrote: >=20 > > OK, so people have problems with either mirror/spegla+ftp and rsync. > > How about cvsup? >=20 > I've suggested this a few times myself. ... > John > -- > John Polstra jdp@polstr= a.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washingto= n USA > "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Ch=F6gyam = Trungpa --=20 John Hall F5 Networks= , Inc. BIG-IP Test Manager 206-272-555= 5 Old age is too high a price to pay for maturity. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 19:24:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F22D37B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f452NS032447; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f452NS355515; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105050223.f452NS355515@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: dl@leo.org Subject: Re: cvsupd error? In-Reply-To: <20010504222458.E98281@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> <200105041944.f44Jiwq54875@vashon.polstra.com> <20010504222458.E98281@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <20010504222458.E98281@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>, Daniel Lang wrote: > Hi, > > John Polstra wrote on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:44:58PM -0700: > [..] > > Nope, the bad file is on the server, not on your machine. I can > > tell because it says "Server warning" at the beginning of the > > message. Please inform the maintainer of your master site about > > this ASAP. > I guess thats me. This path in the warning message looked > too familiar :-/ > I also found the DISCLAIMER,v in the corresponding > directory, deleted it, and started a manual update. > > I wonder how I could get the bad file. > I update hourly from cvsup-master (with -s), but > daily without (doing a 'hard' update). Too bad you deleted the file -- it would have been interesting to look at it. I can tell you that I've helped people with this kind of problem a good 2 dozen times over the past 5 years, and it has always turned out to be the same thing. Namely, there is either a block of 0 bytes or a random block of some totally unrelated file splatted somewhere into the victim file. Furthermore, the block is always a multiple of 4K or maybe 8K bytes, and it is always aligned to the same multiple. That kind of file corruption is a sure sign of hardware trouble, kernel bugs, or a damaged filesystem. I should mention I've seen a lot less of this in the past year or two than I saw before. That means FreeBSD's getting better. :-) I just remembered, there's one other kind of damage I've seen about 2-3 times. That was a single byte in the file with a 1-bit error. Hardware trouble for sure. BTW, when you have to manually delete a file like this, you should turn off "-s" until the next update has finished. That option assumes you're not messing around inside the repository. > ... wait right now my cvsup reports this: > > [..] > Create src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER,v > [..] > > So I assume it in fact it must reside on cvsup-master. > Could anyone confirm this ? Yes, it's definitely on cvsup-master, and it looks valid. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 19:25:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C9937B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f452Pa032468; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f452PaQ55532; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105050225.f452PaQ55532@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: dgilbert@velocet.ca Subject: Re: cvsupd error? In-Reply-To: <15091.8119.233271.779461@trooper.velocet.net> References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> <200105041944.f44Jiwq54875@vashon.polstra.com> <15091.8119.233271.779461@trooper.velocet.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <15091.8119.233271.779461@trooper.velocet.net>, David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "John" == John Polstra writes: > > John> In article <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net>, > John> David Gilbert wrote: > >> Server warning: RCS file error in > >> "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/lib/libc/rpc/DISCLAIMER,v": > >> 1: "head" expected > >> > >> I get a slew of these from my cvsupd server when I cvsup against > >> it. What should a do to correct it? maybe remove the files and > >> run an update? > > John> Nope, the bad file is on the server, not on your machine. I can > John> tell because it says "Server warning" at the beginning of the > John> message. Please inform the maintainer of your master site about > John> this ASAP. > > Right ... but I'm running the server and the client in this instance. > I'm also running a client to update the server, but the server is > still missing these files. Now you've got me good and confused. You're saying that you don't have that file anywhere (client or server) but you're still getting those error messages? I don't see how that's possible. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri May 4 19:27:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C3237B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f452Rb032505; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f452RbR55546; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105050227.f452RbR55546@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: j.hall@f5.com Subject: Re: ftp-master method In-Reply-To: <3AF336A4.2BECC507@f5.com> References: <20010502161330.B5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <200105041644.f44GiuO54477@vashon.polstra.com> <3AF336A4.2BECC507@f5.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <3AF336A4.2BECC507@f5.com>, John Hall wrote: > > I use cvsup to mirror about 50GB of FTP archives in addition to the > FreeBSD cvsup trees. It works great. About 75% of the time an rsync > took and about 20% of the time a mirror.pl took. One nice thing is > that it balances the load between the server and client very nicely > both in terms of CPU as well as network load. Thanks for the info! That's the first actual data I've heard on this topic. Too bad you don't have a bigger test case ... ;-) John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat May 5 2:47: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt (fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt [194.65.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C703737B423 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 02:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpedras@webvolution.net) Received: from mobinho.tafkap.priv ([213.13.96.203]) by fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010505095446.SBQ6175.fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt@mobinho.tafkap.priv>; Sat, 5 May 2001 10:54:46 +0100 Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 10:46:23 +0100 From: Joao Pedras To: Will Andrews Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding other stuff to the mirror Message-ID: <19720000.989055983@mobinho.tafkap.priv> In-Reply-To: <20010504175348.E3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know and apologize for it. The thing is that users of a FreeBSD cvsup server requested me to add OpenBSD. If would be nice to see those files. Since we're on it adding NetBSD wouldn't be bad too. Tkx --On Friday, May 04, 2001 17:53:48 -0500 Will Andrews wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:55:57PM +0100, Joao Pedras wrote: >> I am thinking of adding OpenBSD to a cvsup mirror. >> >> How should I proceed ? >> >> I already have the tree and I have tweaked with some files, but I keep >> getting OpenBSD-all collection unknown. > > Uhm.. this isn't an openbsd list (and hence the wrong place to ask). > However, I do run cvsup.usa.openbsd.org. In a few days I will put up > files to provide cvsup for FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD. > > Brian Somers may be able to help. > > -- > wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat May 5 2:57:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt (fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt [194.65.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E9537B423 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 02:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpedras@webvolution.net) Received: from mobinho.tafkap.priv ([213.13.96.203]) by fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010505100527.SYA6175.fep01-svc.mail.telepac.pt@mobinho.tafkap.priv>; Sat, 5 May 2001 11:05:27 +0100 Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 10:57:04 +0100 From: Joao Pedras To: Will Andrews Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding other stuff to the mirror Message-ID: <55920000.989056624@mobinho.tafkap.priv> In-Reply-To: <19720000.989055983@mobinho.tafkap.priv> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Somers already did! http://cvsup.uk.NetBSD.org/ ]:) --On Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:46:23 +0100 Joao Pedras wrote: > I know and apologize for it. > > The thing is that users of a FreeBSD cvsup server requested me to add > OpenBSD. > > If would be nice to see those files. Since we're on it adding NetBSD > wouldn't be bad too. > > Tkx > > --On Friday, May 04, 2001 17:53:48 -0500 Will Andrews > wrote: > >> On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:55:57PM +0100, Joao Pedras wrote: >>> I am thinking of adding OpenBSD to a cvsup mirror. >>> >>> How should I proceed ? >>> >>> I already have the tree and I have tweaked with some files, but I keep >>> getting OpenBSD-all collection unknown. >> >> Uhm.. this isn't an openbsd list (and hence the wrong place to ask). >> However, I do run cvsup.usa.openbsd.org. In a few days I will put up >> files to provide cvsup for FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD. >> >> Brian Somers may be able to help. >> >> -- >> wca > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat May 5 3: 1: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719F437B423 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 03:01:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ([131.159.24.91] HELO atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ident: IDENT-NONSENSE [port 2265]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <112951-235>; Sat, 5 May 2001 12:01:01 +0000 Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id 79B5313667; Sat, 5 May 2001 12:01:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:01:04 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: John Polstra Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsupd error? Message-ID: <20010505120104.B3916@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <15090.65306.189764.474196@trooper.velocet.net> <200105041944.f44Jiwq54875@vashon.polstra.com> <20010504222458.E98281@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <200105050223.f452NS355515@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105050223.f452NS355515@vashon.polstra.com>; from jdp@polstra.com on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 07:23:28PM -0700 X-Geek: GCS d-- s: a- C++ UB++++$ P+++$ L- E W+++(--) N+ o K w--- O? M- V@ PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5@ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, John Polstra wrote on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 07:23:28PM -0700: [..] > > I guess thats me. This path in the warning message looked > > too familiar :-/ > > I also found the DISCLAIMER,v in the corresponding > > directory, deleted it, and started a manual update. > > > > I wonder how I could get the bad file. > > I update hourly from cvsup-master (with -s), but > > daily without (doing a 'hard' update). > > Too bad you deleted the file -- it would have been interesting to > look at it. Yes, especially, when I slept over it. It came to mind, that it needn't be me, who is David mirroring from, since this the place for a cvsup / prefixes directory is possible not too uncommon. It was a bit late last night *yawn*. So I checked my cvsupd log, and there was no client from Canada the last months, which would not be very sensible anyway. Another case to remind oneself of the valuable hints in the HHGTG: Don't Panic ;) Anyway, if David would tell us, where he is mirroring from, when he is not cvsup'ing from his own machine, it would help to check if your problem described below applies to someone of us. > > I can tell you that I've helped people with this kind of problem a > good 2 dozen times over the past 5 years, and it has always turned out > to be the same thing. Namely, there is either a block of 0 bytes or > a random block of some totally unrelated file splatted somewhere into > the victim file. Furthermore, the block is always a multiple of 4K or > maybe 8K bytes, and it is always aligned to the same multiple. That > kind of file corruption is a sure sign of hardware trouble, kernel > bugs, or a damaged filesystem. I should mention I've seen a lot Ouch. Hmmm I remember to have read about symtoms like these on one of the other lists, but I don't recall the context. Could have been vinum (*argh, no Greg, please don't, ... I promise,... aaaaaaaargh, I will never rant about vinum again, ... I will never send any crash dumps again, nooooo) :-). No seriously, don't remember. [..] > BTW, when you have to manually delete a file like this, you should > turn off "-s" until the next update has finished. That option assumes > you're not messing around inside the repository. Yes, thats what I did. [..] > Yes, it's definitely on cvsup-master, and it looks valid. Phew, at least something to rely on. :) Regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Cool people don't move, they just hang around. - Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * ++49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat May 5 11:52:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from centauro.ufrgs.br (centauro.ufrgs.br [143.54.1.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507B837B422 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 11:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from girald@etcom.ufrgs.br) Received: from vortex.ufrgs.br (vortex.ufrgs.br [143.54.1.7]) by centauro.ufrgs.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA04872 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 15:51:31 -0300 (EST) Received: from sol.etcom.ufrgs.br (143.54.73.1) by vortex.ufrgs.br (DCS-X50A-27, OpenVMS V7.2 Alpha); Sat, 05 May 2001 15:52:28 -0300 (EST) Received: from SOL/SpoolDir by sol.etcom.ufrgs.br (Mercury 1.48); 5 May 01 15:47:44 GMT-3 Received: from SpoolDir by SOL (Mercury 1.48); 5 May 01 15:46:45 GMT-3 Received: from etcom.ufrgs.br (143.54.73.171) by sol.etcom.ufrgs.br (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 5 May 01 15:46:32 GMT-3 Message-ID: <3AF44BA3.2CFE4B98@etcom.ufrgs.br> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 15:51:15 -0300 From: Alexander Girald Organization: Escola Tecnica da Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Mirroring FreeBSD X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, and sorry my poor english skills! I'm a brazilian student and like to run a FreeBSD mirror in my school. I tried to talk with my domain hostmaster but not received any response. What i need to be a registered mirror? The mirror candidate URL is ftp://mirror.pop-rs.rnp.br/pub/FreeBSD Greetings, Girald. -------------------------------------------- Network Administrator Nucleo de Informatica Escola Tecnica, UFRGS - Campus Saude Av. Ramiro Barcelos, 2777 / 320 CEP: 90.035-007 - Porto Alegre / RS - Brasil http://karina.etcom.ufrgs.br/~girald/ girald@etcom.ufrgs.br -------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat May 5 11:58:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB7237B423 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 11:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f45Iw2364318; Sat, 5 May 2001 11:58:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: girald@etcom.ufrgs.br Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mirroring FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3AF44BA3.2CFE4B98@etcom.ufrgs.br> References: <3AF44BA3.2CFE4B98@etcom.ufrgs.br> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010505115802R.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 11:58:02 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I take it that the person(s) not responding is hostmaster@br.freebsd.org ? Unfortunately, those are the only people to talk to since we have no centralized control over the subdomains like this. :( Perhaps your next message should cc hostmaster@freebsd.org so that there's some record as to whether or not the current Brazilian DNS admins are being responsive to requests. If it turns out to be a chronic problem, we can work to find an alternate. - Jordan From: Alexander Girald Subject: Mirroring FreeBSD Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 15:51:15 -0300 > Hi, and sorry my poor english skills! > > I'm a brazilian student and like to run a FreeBSD mirror in my school. > I tried to talk with my domain hostmaster but not received any response. > What i need to be a registered mirror? > > The mirror candidate URL is ftp://mirror.pop-rs.rnp.br/pub/FreeBSD > > Greetings, > Girald. > -------------------------------------------- > Network Administrator > Nucleo de Informatica > Escola Tecnica, UFRGS - Campus Saude > Av. Ramiro Barcelos, 2777 / 320 > CEP: 90.035-007 - Porto Alegre / RS - Brasil > http://karina.etcom.ufrgs.br/~girald/ > girald@etcom.ufrgs.br > -------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat May 5 13: 6:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B916937B422 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 13:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2215F5D73; Sat, 5 May 2001 22:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:06:26 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Alexander Girald Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mirroring FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010505220626.A7959@skriver.dk> References: <3AF44BA3.2CFE4B98@etcom.ufrgs.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AF44BA3.2CFE4B98@etcom.ufrgs.br>; from girald@etcom.ufrgs.br on Sat, May 05, 2001 at 03:51:15PM -0300 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 03:51:15PM -0300, Alexander Girald wrote: > Hi, and sorry my poor english skills! > > I'm a brazilian student and like to run a FreeBSD mirror in my school. > I tried to talk with my domain hostmaster but not received any response. > What i need to be a registered mirror? > > The mirror candidate URL is ftp://mirror.pop-rs.rnp.br/pub/FreeBSD From your host ftp> ls 227 Entering Passive Mode (200,132,0,126,42,131) 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. total 5 drwxr-xr-x 21 202 1 1024 May 5 15:31 4.2-RELEASE drwxr-xr-x 23 202 1 1024 May 5 15:32 4.3-RELEASE drwxr-xr-x 2 202 1 512 May 5 14:02 ISO-IMAGES This is far from a complete FreeBSD mirror, and you don't put things in the same locations as the official site (and mirrors), so I don't think we should list your host as a official FreeBSD mirror. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. 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