From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 7 1: 7: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111B337B400 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0796l990351 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:06:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0796Vi02720 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:06:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <007001c07889$313ce160$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: References: Subject: Re: Jail revisited Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:03:23 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave VanAuken" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:19 AM Subject: RE: Jail revisited > okay, jail is up, running, and functional thanks to the assistance > found here. > > still playing around with some aspects. for example: > > Problem 1: Wish to give jail owner the ability to install ports (or > try to) as they see fit, essentially to configure the virtual machine. > I do not want to make duplicate copies of the entire ports directory > but from what I can delve from the documentation, jail will not allow > a link to the ports directory (outside the jail, and thus for obvious > reasons). > I nice solution would be to get an IBM S390. Under vm, it can emulate tens of thousands virtual pc's running linux. Of cause, you have to get double flooring, and increased aircondition, but you don't have to buy another dedicated server for years... I'm sure it can work for freebsd too :-) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 8 8:53:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10A437B400; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoraida.reyes.somos.net (zoraida.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.15]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA64708; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:48:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:57:16 -0500 (EST) From: Francisco Reyes To: Jahanur R Subedar Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to find the time.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jahanur R Subedar wrote: > I am trying to find the time of when a particular command was executed. What command? Unless the program has some type of loging I don't believe there are logs to indicate when apps are run. Will you continue to need this? A possible solution, unless someone suggests something better, would be to run a cron job which does ps and sends the output to a log. You could use newsyslog to keep it under control (i.e. don't let it get too big). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 8 9: 1:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [200.52.207.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DFF37B400; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lcroker@localhost) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f08Gwvs24099; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:58:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lcroker@unix.megared.net.mx) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:58:57 -0600 (CST) From: Lu!s Croker To: Francisco Reyes Cc: Jahanur R Subedar , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to find the time.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can put set the command in a script.... for example... #!/bin/sh echo "X command Logs" >/var/log/xcommand.log date >>/var/log/xcommand.log #Log the date and time in a file time >>/var/log/xcommand.log xcommand date >>/var/log/xcommand.log #Log again the time and date, when the time >>/var/log/xcommand.log #command finish If you log the initial time and the final time, you can know the time that the command was in execution... Greetings... On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jahanur R Subedar wrote: > > > I am trying to find the time of when a particular command was executed. > > What command? Unless the program has some type of loging I don't believe > there are logs to indicate when apps are run. > Will you continue to need this? > A possible solution, unless someone suggests something better, would be to > run a cron job which does ps and sends the output to a log. > > You could use newsyslog to keep it under control (i.e. don't let it get > too big). > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 8 10:52:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.itech-usa.com (unknown [63.122.15.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A42C37B6C8 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 70416 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2001 18:40:06 -0000 Received: from desert.itech-usa.com (HELO oswars.net) (63.122.15.69) by condor.itech-usa.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2001 18:40:06 -0000 Message-ID: <3A5A8AA9.42700A6E@oswars.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:51:05 -0600 From: Chris Tusa Organization: OsWars.net - BSD resource center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: NFS & NIS interaction issue. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ya'll, I'm currently running 5 machines with 4.2-stable. I am attempting to consoloidate the home directories on a single machine. I've read the handbook, and searched the internet for FAQs and TUTORIALS but have had no results except confusion. The machines are all sharing via NFS exports. When I create a new user account via 'adduser' on the NIS master, I set the home directory to be on an NFS mount located at '/mnt/nfs/home' when adduser attempts to create the directory, it gives a CHOWN error. I have determined that it is because the userid does not exist on the NFS server hosting the home share. The NFS server is configured as an NIS client. So how can I configure NFS for NIS permissions? I also use QMAIL and want it to distribute EMAIL via the NFS share. Any suggestions, or links would be helpful. Cordially, Chris Tusa webmaster@oswars.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 8 11:14:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2FE37B6B2 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14Fgx3-0003G0-00; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:23:25 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:23:03 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Chris Tusa Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS & NIS interaction issue. In-Reply-To: <3A5A8AA9.42700A6E@oswars.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Chris Tusa wrote: ... > exports. When I create a new user account via 'adduser' on the > NIS master, I set the home directory to be on an NFS mount located at > '/mnt/nfs/home' when adduser attempts to create the directory, it gives > a CHOWN error. I have determined that it is because the userid does not > exist on the NFS server hosting the home share. The NFS server is ... No, NFS uses numeric IDs in the protocol, so it doesn't matter what users are actually present on the NFS server. You don't need any users on the NFS server if you don't want. The problem is that by default the NFS server mapps the root user to nobody, and only root can chown() files. By default, NFS is setup so that the NFS clients aren't completely trusted, and the "root" user on the client should not necessarily have "root" access to the exported NFS directories. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 8 20: 2:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64D2E37B400 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 71854 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 2001 04:02:13 -0000 Received: from ndslppp221.phnx.uswest.net (HELO pinyon.org) (63.224.136.221) by phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 9 Jan 2001 04:02:13 -0000 Received: from chomsky.Pinyon.ORG (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391E670 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:02:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:02:13 -0700 Message-Id: <20010109040213.391E670@pinyon.org> From: "Russell L. Carter" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Subject: a 2U RAID+sound server design Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! I am curious if there are any opinions on the following headless server configuration: Case: http://www.amtrade.com/computer/2u_hot_swappable_industrial_case.htm 3 PCI cards: sound, 3ware 6400, network. serial console admin, only because that case has only three pci slots on the riser, if I'm interpreting the diagrams right. I've got a lot of flexibility on cpus. Comments? Is there a better case for the 3ware cards? What does it mean to have root on a raid? Thanks! Russell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 8 20:38:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sun2.siteone.net (ns2.site-one.com [209.246.218.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4603E37B401 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from David (wan104.siteone.net [209.246.218.40]) by sun2.siteone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA05043 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:39:27 -0500 From: "David Lawson" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Hosting with multiple subnets Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:38:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C079CC.1B319F20" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C079CC.1B319F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We setup a new hosting box running FreeBSD 4.1, we have two Class C's that we want to use on this box but we are having problems. When ever we add another subnet we lose all connection. All the other Interfaces stop working. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C079CC.1B319F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We = setup a new=20 hosting box running FreeBSD 4.1, we have two Class C's that we want to = use on=20 this box but we are having problems. When ever we add another subnet we = lose all=20 connection. All the other Interfaces stop=20 working.
------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C079CC.1B319F20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 8 22:21: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF38A37B400 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 22:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14FrRR-00040D-00; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:35:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:35:07 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: David Lawson Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Hosting with multiple subnets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, David Lawson wrote: > We setup a new hosting box running FreeBSD 4.1, we have two Class C's that > we want to use on this box but we are having problems. When ever we add > another subnet we lose all connection. All the other Interfaces stop > working. You haven't provided any really detail on how you are "adding a subnet". I can think of several ways that could be done, and a lot more ways that it could be done wrong. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 9 2:36:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2319637B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f09AaG403735; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:36:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:36:16 -0600 From: Tim To: "Russell L. Carter" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a 2U RAID+sound server design Message-ID: <20010109043616.A3606@futuresouth.com> References: <20010109040213.391E670@pinyon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010109040213.391E670@pinyon.org>; from rcarter@pinyon.org on Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 09:02:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Make sure the motherboard you buy support the riser card. I recently bought an Intel motherboard and the riser card (from Enlight's 2U case which I do not recommend) is at the spot where the AGP slot is. Too bad, it was a neat MB. Tim On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 09:02:13PM -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: > > Greetings! > I am curious if there are any opinions on the following > headless server configuration: > > Case: http://www.amtrade.com/computer/2u_hot_swappable_industrial_case.htm > 3 PCI cards: sound, 3ware 6400, network. > serial console admin, only because that case has only three pci slots > on the riser, if I'm interpreting the diagrams right. > > I've got a lot of flexibility on cpus. > > Comments? Is there a better case for the 3ware cards? > What does it mean to have root on a raid? > > Thanks! > Russell > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 9 4:25: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (ftp.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ED637B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AH9370.63.d1acf55c) with ESMTP id jiosaaaa for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:32:43 +1100 Message-ID: <3A5B031F.8DBB4185@quake.com.au> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 23:25:03 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Cc: "Russell L. Carter" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a 2U RAID+sound server design References: <20010109040213.391E670@pinyon.org> <20010109043616.A3606@futuresouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tim wrote: > > Make sure the motherboard you buy support the riser card. I recently > bought an Intel motherboard and the riser card (from Enlight's 2U case > which I do not recommend) is at the spot where the AGP slot is. Too bad, > it was a neat MB. Speaking of riser cards, dose anyone know of a place that sells them separately to cases? I just want the riser not a case as well... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 9 4:29:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C2337B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:29:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f09CTHD09812; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 06:29:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 06:29:16 -0600 From: Tim To: Kal Torak Cc: "Russell L. Carter" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a 2U RAID+sound server design Message-ID: <20010109062916.A9672@futuresouth.com> References: <20010109040213.391E670@pinyon.org> <20010109043616.A3606@futuresouth.com> <3A5B031F.8DBB4185@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A5B031F.8DBB4185@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:25:03PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's not obvious that all riser cards will mount on all cases - that's probably why they typically come with the case. I've seen them at industrial computing sites though - perhaps try technoland.com or arisecomputer.com. Tim On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:25:03PM +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > Tim wrote: > > > > Make sure the motherboard you buy support the riser card. I recently > > bought an Intel motherboard and the riser card (from Enlight's 2U case > > which I do not recommend) is at the spot where the AGP slot is. Too bad, > > it was a neat MB. > > Speaking of riser cards, dose anyone know of a place that sells them > separately to cases? I just want the riser not a case as well... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 9 6:32:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 445A337B698 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 06:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8290 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2001 14:31:59 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (209.100.22.250) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2001 14:31:59 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "Tom Samplonius" , "David Lawson" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: RE: Hosting with multiple subnets Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:31:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tom Samplonius ** Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:35 AM ** To: David Lawson ** Cc: FreeBSD ISP ** Subject: Re: Hosting with multiple subnets ** ** ** ** On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, David Lawson wrote: ** ** > We setup a new hosting box running FreeBSD 4.1, we have two ** Class C's that ** > we want to use on this box but we are having problems. When ever we add ** > another subnet we lose all connection. All the other Interfaces stop ** > working. ** ** You haven't provided any really detail on how you are "adding ** a subnet". ** I can think of several ways that could be done, and a lot more ways that ** it could be done wrong. ** Agreed, but you could have given an example of one of the good ways to do it. Here's how I set up for hosting: 192.168.10.1/26 - gw address 192.168.10.8/26 - fxp0 on my web server 192.168.20.0/23 - bound to lo1 on the web server I use zebra to implement OSPF to get the routes kicked around my network, but it could easily be done with a static route on the gateway router. Doing it like this keeps the arp tables small. I don't know if it really matters or not, but I like it like that. I also use a script rather than rc.conf to do my bindings: for i in `jot 256 0` do ifconfig lo1 inet 192.168.20.${i} netmask 0xffffffff alias done And, yes, I do bind the /whole/ subnet. I won't use .0 or .255, but with a /26, I will use all 64 addresses. HTH, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 They told me to think out of the box, but I tripped over it, now I own my own company. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 9 14:43: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pc759.cs.msu.su (pc759.cs.msu.su [158.250.10.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD18637B400; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc759.cs.msu.su (uucp@localhost) by pc759.cs.msu.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id BAA52469; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:59:07 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from der@pc759.cs.msu.su) Received: from pc759.cs.msu.su (megagame.my.home [10.0.1.5]) by gateway.my.home (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28047; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:31:42 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from der@pc759.cs.msu.su) Message-ID: <3A5B8522.EBDB426F@pc759.cs.msu.su> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 21:39:46 +0000 From: Alexander Derevyanko X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Lu!s Croker" Cc: Francisco Reyes , Jahanur R Subedar , FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-questions@pc759.cs.msu.su, FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-isp@pc759.cs.msu.su Subject: Re: How to find the time.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can enable "lastcomm". See accton(?). "Lu!s Croker" wrote: > > You can put set the command in a script.... for example... > > #!/bin/sh > > echo "X command Logs" >/var/log/xcommand.log > date >>/var/log/xcommand.log #Log the date and time in a file > time >>/var/log/xcommand.log > > xcommand > > date >>/var/log/xcommand.log #Log again the time and date, when the > time >>/var/log/xcommand.log #command finish > > If you log the initial time and the final time, you can know the time > that the command was in execution... > > Greetings... > > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Francisco Reyes wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jahanur R Subedar wrote: > > > > > I am trying to find the time of when a particular command was executed. > > > > What command? Unless the program has some type of loging I don't believe > > there are logs to indicate when apps are run. > > Will you continue to need this? > > A possible solution, unless someone suggests something better, would be to > > run a cron job which does ps and sends the output to a log. > > > > You could use newsyslog to keep it under control (i.e. don't let it get > > too big). > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 9 15:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DB3937B404 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:09:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30218 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2001 23:09:42 -0000 Received: from arcadia.psknet.com (HELO arcadia) (63.171.251.7) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2001 23:09:42 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: Subject: RE: Hosting with multiple subnets Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:09:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Colin, I'm breaking netiqet by copying this back to the list, but I think that many folks will find this useful or even educational. You are correct, in that on a /26 subnet, you only have 62 usable IP addresses, however, if you treat it as a group of 64 /32 subnets, you can use all 64 addresses in the /26 that you allocated for web hosting. The same thing applies to dynamic IP pools on your NAS. Keep in mind, though, that this does not work if you are not properly subnetted. If the subnet on your LAN is a /24, you can not use the network or broadcast addresses. If, however, you use the first /26 (0-31) for your LAN, then route the last /26 (192-255) to your web server at .10, you can treat all 64 addresses in 192/26 as /32 subnets, giving you use of all 64 addresses (including .255). This concept does extend to a /24. If you treat it as a group of 256 /32 subnets, you can use all 256 addresses for web hosting or dialup. It works for /any/ size CIDR block of IP addresses. Give me a /16, and I'll give you 65,536 usable addresses for web hosting. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short ** -----Original Message----- ** From: Colin Campbell [mailto:sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au] ** Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:38 PM ** To: Troy Settle ** Subject: RE: Hosting with multiple subnets ** ** ** Hi, ** ** On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Troy Settle wrote: ** ** > Agreed, but you could have given an example of one of the good ** ways to do ** > it. Here's how I set up for hosting: ** > ** > 192.168.10.1/26 - gw address ** > 192.168.10.8/26 - fxp0 on my web server ** > 192.168.20.0/23 - bound to lo1 on the web server ** > ** > I use zebra to implement OSPF to get the routes kicked around ** my network, ** > but it could easily be done with a static route on the gateway router. ** > ** > Doing it like this keeps the arp tables small. I don't know ** if it really ** > matters or not, but I like it like that. ** > ** > I also use a script rather than rc.conf to do my bindings: ** > ** > for i in `jot 256 0` ** > do ifconfig lo1 inet 192.168.20.${i} netmask 0xffffffff alias ** > done ** > ** > And, yes, I do bind the /whole/ subnet. I won't use .0 or ** .255, but with a ** > /26, I will use all 64 addresses. ** ** You cannot use ALL addresses in a subnet. A /26 gives you 62 usable ** addresses. The host address that is all 0's is the sub-network ** address and ** the host address that is all 1's is the broadcast address. With ** a /26 mask ** you have four subnets as follows: ** ** Subnet 1 ** -------- ** 192.168.10.0 = network address ** 192.168.10.1-192.168.10.62 = usable host addresses ** 192.168.10.63 = broadcast ** ** Subnet 2 ** -------- ** 192.168.10.64 = network address ** 192.168.10.65-192.168.10.126 = usable host addresses ** 192.168.10.127 = broadcast ** ** Subnet 3 ** -------- ** 192.168.10.128 = network address ** 192.168.10.129-192.168.10.190 = usable host addresses ** 192.168.10.191 = broadcast ** ** Subnet 4 ** -------- ** 192.168.10.192 = network address ** 192.168.10.193-192.168.10.254 = usable host addresses ** 192.168.10.255 = broadcast ** ** Colin ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 9 15:37:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from marius.org (marius.org [216.88.115.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681C437B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from marius@localhost) by marius.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f09NbIt02515; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:37:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:37:18 -0600 From: Marius Strom To: Troy Settle Cc: Colin Campbell , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hosting with multiple subnets Message-ID: <20010109173718.C1302@marius.org> Mail-Followup-To: Troy Settle , Colin Campbell , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from troy@psknet.com on Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:09:24PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org But man would that make for a nasty routing table. =] On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:09:24PM -0500, Troy Settle wrote: > > Colin, > > I'm breaking netiqet by copying this back to the list, but I think that many > folks will find this useful or even educational. > > You are correct, in that on a /26 subnet, you only have 62 usable IP > addresses, however, if you treat it as a group of 64 /32 subnets, you can > use all 64 addresses in the /26 that you allocated for web hosting. The > same thing applies to dynamic IP pools on your NAS. > > Keep in mind, though, that this does not work if you are not properly > subnetted. If the subnet on your LAN is a /24, you can not use the network > or broadcast addresses. If, however, you use the first /26 (0-31) for your > LAN, then route the last /26 (192-255) to your web server at .10, you can > treat all 64 addresses in 192/26 as /32 subnets, giving you use of all 64 > addresses (including .255). > > This concept does extend to a /24. If you treat it as a group of 256 /32 > subnets, you can use all 256 addresses for web hosting or dialup. It works > for /any/ size CIDR block of IP addresses. Give me a /16, and I'll give you > 65,536 usable addresses for web hosting. > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > 540.994.4254 > > It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short > > > > ** -----Original Message----- > ** From: Colin Campbell [mailto:sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au] > ** Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:38 PM > ** To: Troy Settle > ** Subject: RE: Hosting with multiple subnets > ** > ** > ** Hi, > ** > ** On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Troy Settle wrote: > ** > ** > Agreed, but you could have given an example of one of the good > ** ways to do > ** > it. Here's how I set up for hosting: > ** > > ** > 192.168.10.1/26 - gw address > ** > 192.168.10.8/26 - fxp0 on my web server > ** > 192.168.20.0/23 - bound to lo1 on the web server > ** > > ** > I use zebra to implement OSPF to get the routes kicked around > ** my network, > ** > but it could easily be done with a static route on the gateway router. > ** > > ** > Doing it like this keeps the arp tables small. I don't know > ** if it really > ** > matters or not, but I like it like that. > ** > > ** > I also use a script rather than rc.conf to do my bindings: > ** > > ** > for i in `jot 256 0` > ** > do ifconfig lo1 inet 192.168.20.${i} netmask 0xffffffff alias > ** > done > ** > > ** > And, yes, I do bind the /whole/ subnet. I won't use .0 or > ** .255, but with a > ** > /26, I will use all 64 addresses. > ** > ** You cannot use ALL addresses in a subnet. A /26 gives you 62 usable > ** addresses. The host address that is all 0's is the sub-network > ** address and > ** the host address that is all 1's is the broadcast address. With > ** a /26 mask > ** you have four subnets as follows: > ** > ** Subnet 1 > ** -------- > ** 192.168.10.0 = network address > ** 192.168.10.1-192.168.10.62 = usable host addresses > ** 192.168.10.63 = broadcast > ** > ** Subnet 2 > ** -------- > ** 192.168.10.64 = network address > ** 192.168.10.65-192.168.10.126 = usable host addresses > ** 192.168.10.127 = broadcast > ** > ** Subnet 3 > ** -------- > ** 192.168.10.128 = network address > ** 192.168.10.129-192.168.10.190 = usable host addresses > ** 192.168.10.191 = broadcast > ** > ** Subnet 4 > ** -------- > ** 192.168.10.192 = network address > ** 192.168.10.193-192.168.10.254 = usable host addresses > ** 192.168.10.255 = broadcast > ** > ** Colin > ** > ** > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Marius Strom Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator URL: http://www.marius.org/ http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0x55DE53E4 "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a mini-van full of DLT tapes traveling down the highway at 65 miles per hour..." -Andrew Tanenbaum, "Computer Networks" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 9 15:52:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from coloradosurf.com (c769378-a.lakwod3.co.home.com [24.15.35.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333D637B401 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from heike ([172.16.1.2]) by coloradosurf.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA11551; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:50:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from mike@coloradosurf.com) Message-ID: <001601c07a97$94cd3260$020110ac@c769378a.lakwod3.co.home.com> From: "mike" To: , "Len Conrad" References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010107082319.0522d9e0@mail.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: DNS Tools - Zone File Creation Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:54:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Len, I looked again in my copy of DNS/BIND (rather tattered despite how clueless I feel) and did not find adequate examples the proper use of the $INCLUDE statement you referenced. I have a script that copies a 'master' zone file and makes the necessary substitutions (serial,domain, and IP which is only one of a couple ip's) for new virtually hosted domains. My company hosts 150-200 domains and therefore has 150-200 zone files. This way would seem to clean things up quite a bit. Could you (please) show me an example of it's proper use (or refer me to some location that does)? I have pasted below what should be pretty close to the master we use. From your post, I believe I should be able to get down to 3-5 zone files. TIA, mike #domain#. IN SOA #ns1#. webmaster.#domain#. ( #date# 10800 3600 604800 86400 ) #domain#. IN NS #ns1#. #domain#. IN NS #ns2#. #domain#. IN A #ipaddress# www.#domain#. IN CNAME #domain#. #domain#. IN MX 1 #domain#. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Conrad" To: Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: Re: DNS Tools - Zone File Creation > > >I manage all my zones manually and don't mind. I do a search and replace in > >vi. However, I have to create a number of zone files all in one go and was > >wondering if anyone has any scripts to create the zone files. > > If you use the $INCLUDE of BIND8, you can greatly simplify the zone > files and errors and maintenance. > > And if you do a lot of virtual www/ftp/smtp hosting where many > domains have the same ip's (A records) for their www/ftp services and > you have one or two mail servers with virtual mail hosts, then you > can often use just one zone file for any number of separate domains. > > I helped one ISP upgrade 150 zones from W2K DNS to BIND8, and with > the above techniques, I reduced his zone files to just 4. No enough > of zone files bothering to develop a script for. Adding a new zone > for him was just duplicating a line in his named.conf with no > modification of the common zone file. > > Len > > > > http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 T9B for NT4 & W2K > http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 10 2:59:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arachna.worldonline.es (arachna.worldonline.es [212.7.33.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF7137B402 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (pc252.worldonline.es [212.7.35.252]) by arachna.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C03FE82F for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:59:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (IDENT:jesusr@wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct [10.34.0.38]) by belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0AAxPB00131 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:59:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jesusr@worldonline.es) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:12:17 +0100 (CET) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesusr@wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD, PHP4 + Oracle Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I've been trying to find some reference to know if is possible to have php4 compiled with oci8 (oracle) support but i can't find any real and definitive answer. Is it possible? Thanks in advance. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 10 5:50:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [193.124.215.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB9337B698 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (root@iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by mx.nsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA29810; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:50:04 +0600 (NOVT) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0ADnwr04102; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:49:58 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:49:57 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD, PHP4 + Oracle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, there! On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > I've been trying to find some reference to know if is possible to > have php4 compiled with oci8 (oracle) support but i can't find > any real and definitive answer. > > Is it possible? do not know if this is possible but do you have OCI? There is native OCI available here: ftp://www.kuzbass.ru/pub/freebsd/oracle/oracle7.client.OCI.tar.gz /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 10 10:14:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-1.worldonline.es (pop3-1.worldonline.es [212.7.33.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0F237B69B for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (pc252.worldonline.es [212.7.35.252]) by pop3-1.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C1B5FFAC; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:14:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (IDENT:jesusr@wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct [10.34.0.38]) by belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0AIE4B00882; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:14:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jesusr@worldonline.es) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:26:58 +0100 (CET) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesusr@wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: Adrian Urquhart Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD, PHP4 + Oracle In-Reply-To: <3A5C6439.6E47641F@devnet-uk.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Adrian Urquhart wrote: > Hi > > As far as I could find out, the main problem is that FreeBSD doesn't > have Java support, which is required to run (at least, install) Oracle > and there is no Oracle port for FBSD. There have been reports of people > using Linux emulation to install Oracle, but I'm not sure how successful > they were, or how difficult it is. In our case we weren't using PHP, but > wanted to compile DBD::Oracle for running on a FBSD box. In this case, > there had to be enough of Oracle installed to be able to run the ProC > compiler. We gave up and set up a Linux machine for the job. Thanks for the answer but i think i have not explained clearly what i want :) I have Oracle on Solaris boxes, so no problem for that. What i need is getting PHP4 compiled with OCI8 support on FreeBSD for make queries from those php applications on FreeBSD boxes to the Oracles in the Solaris boxes. I know i need to install the Oracle client libraries on FreeBSD for compiling PHP4 with OCI8 and i've seen a lot of problems with people trying to do this and i have not been able to find a clear answer or solution... that's why my question. Thanks. > Things may have changed since then (about 4 months ago). If there is a > solution, I'd like to hear it too. > > HTH > > Adrian Urquhart > devnet (uk) ltd. > > Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I've been trying to find some reference to know if is possible to > > have php4 compiled with oci8 (oracle) support but i can't find > > any real and definitive answer. > > > > Is it possible? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > JesusR. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 10 10:16:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arachna.worldonline.es (arachna.worldonline.es [212.7.33.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC65337B69B for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (pc252.worldonline.es [212.7.35.252]) by arachna.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8E0FE811; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:16:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (IDENT:jesusr@wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct [10.34.0.38]) by belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0AIGSB00892; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:16:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jesusr@worldonline.es) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:29:22 +0100 (CET) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesusr@wol38.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: Max Khon Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD, PHP4 + Oracle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Max Khon wrote: > hi, there! > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > > I've been trying to find some reference to know if is possible to > > have php4 compiled with oci8 (oracle) support but i can't find > > any real and definitive answer. > > > > Is it possible? > > do not know if this is possible but do you have OCI? What i want to do is trying to compile php4 on FreeBSD with OCI libraries from Oracle for Linux using the FreeBSD binary compat. > There is native OCI available here: > ftp://www.kuzbass.ru/pub/freebsd/oracle/oracle7.client.OCI.tar.gz I'll take a look. Thanks! Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 10 11:11:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [193.124.215.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682F037B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:11:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (root@iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by mx.nsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA00521; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:11:05 +0600 (NOVT) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0AJB4G13406; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:11:04 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:11:04 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD, PHP4 + Oracle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, there! On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > > I've been trying to find some reference to know if is possible to > > > have php4 compiled with oci8 (oracle) support but i can't find > > > any real and definitive answer. > > > > > > Is it possible? > > do not know if this is possible but do you have OCI? > > What i want to do is trying to compile php4 on FreeBSD with OCI libraries > from Oracle for Linux using the FreeBSD binary compat. you should you Linux for that. then you will have Linux php, Linux apache It will be easier to install Linux in this case /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 10 11:50:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7722937B401 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ocsinternet.com (localhost.upan.org [127.0.0.1]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0AEm6119619; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:48:06 GMT (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3A5C7626.B1C4F643@ocsinternet.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:48:06 +0000 From: Mikel King X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: Max Khon , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD, PHP4 + Oracle References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You should try this question on the php lists...I would bet $1 that some one else has already tried this....;) Cheers, Mikel Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Max Khon wrote: > > > hi, there! > > > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > > > > I've been trying to find some reference to know if is possible to > > > have php4 compiled with oci8 (oracle) support but i can't find > > > any real and definitive answer. > > > > > > Is it possible? > > > > do not know if this is possible but do you have OCI? > > What i want to do is trying to compile php4 on FreeBSD with OCI libraries > from Oracle for Linux using the FreeBSD binary compat. > > > There is native OCI available here: > > ftp://www.kuzbass.ru/pub/freebsd/oracle/oracle7.client.OCI.tar.gz > > I'll take a look. > > Thanks! > > Saludos > JesusR. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 10 21:38: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DAB37B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0B5bXG96980; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:37:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange DNS issue (more) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:37:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <000b01c076a3$e13eccf0$628a13ac@me> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 4 Jan 2001 18:26:20 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >> I have mail.xyz.com, www.xyz.com, host.xyz.com as A records in my zone >> files. >> Very sporadically I get a call from someone saying that they cannot = get to >> www.xyz.com. I have them ping around and they can ping mail and host,= but >> www comes back with unknown host. If I have them do an nslookup and = change >> to another DNS server out on the net, it works. A short while later = the >> problem will resolve itself. >... >> Any clues? > >Tell us the real name of the xyz.com domain so that we can check your >name server for ourselves. *Then* we might be able to help. OK, here is a strange DNS issue that is different. =20 Not sure if this is specifically a sendmail or bind issue or a FreeBSD issue. But when sending email to a domain that is LAME (e.g. supercom.ca = or beckett.com)) where the 2 authoritative name servers are giving non authoritative answers, I want to send mail to it anyways. Using the same rev of sendmail on a lINUX box works in conjunction with asking the = FreeBSD nameserver. Any idea why sendmail 8.11 on FreeBSD would be more strict than the same rev on Linux ? # name resolver options #O ResolverOptions=3D+AAONLY ResolverOptions=3D-AAONLY or ResolverOptions=3D Does not seem to have any effect. Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) =09 Sentex Communications Corp, =09 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers=20 could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 3:26: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.grad.kiev.ua (unknown [195.5.37.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8710037B400 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from Shevchenko.Kiev.UA (bolla.internal.grad.kiev.ua [10.0.1.99]) by mail.grad.kiev.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA65009; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:40:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA) Message-ID: <3A5D9B43.171F4AEE@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:38:43 +0200 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: Adrian Urquhart , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD, PHP4 + Oracle References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Adrian Urquhart wrote: > > > Hi > > > > As far as I could find out, the main problem is that FreeBSD doesn't > > have Java support, which is required to run (at least, install) Oracle > > and there is no Oracle port for FBSD. There have been reports of people > > using Linux emulation to install Oracle, but I'm not sure how successful > > they were, or how difficult it is. In our case we weren't using PHP, but > > wanted to compile DBD::Oracle for running on a FBSD box. In this case, > > there had to be enough of Oracle installed to be able to run the ProC > > compiler. We gave up and set up a Linux machine for the job. > > Thanks for the answer but i think i have not explained clearly what i > want :) > > I have Oracle on Solaris boxes, so no problem for that. What i need is getting > PHP4 compiled with OCI8 support on FreeBSD for make queries from those php > applications on FreeBSD boxes to the Oracles in the Solaris boxes. > > I know i need to install the Oracle client libraries on FreeBSD for compiling > PHP4 with OCI8 and i've seen a lot of problems with people trying to do this and > i have not been able to find a clear answer or solution... that's why my > question. > > Thanks. > > > Things may have changed since then (about 4 months ago). If there is a > > solution, I'd like to hear it too. > > > > HTH > > > > Adrian Urquhart > > devnet (uk) ltd. > > > > Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've been trying to find some reference to know if is possible to > > > have php4 compiled with oci8 (oracle) support but i can't find > > > any real and definitive answer. > > > > > > Is it possible? > > > I guess, than more clean solutions would be leave Oracle on Linux, and set FreeBSD apache as reverse proxy for Linux machine, or use some middleware tools for Oracle access. (such as our mod_cbroker http://www.gradsoft.com.ua/eng/Products/cbroker/cbroker.html). > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > JesusR. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > Saludos > JesusR. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 7:58:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sun2.siteone.net (ns2.site-one.com [209.246.218.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C4F37B401 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from David (wan104.siteone.net [209.246.218.40]) by sun2.siteone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13110 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:59:30 -0500 From: "David Lawson" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Username Length Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:58:27 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C07BBD.6CEED240" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C07BBD.6CEED240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How would I extend the maximum length of usernames for FreeBSD 4.1 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C07BBD.6CEED240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How = would I extend=20 the maximum length of usernames for FreeBSD=20 4.1
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C07BBD.6CEED240-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 8:48:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gifw.genroco.com (genroco.com [205.254.195.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6BC37B401 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gi2.genroco.com (IDENT:root@gi2.genroco.com [192.133.120.3]) by gifw.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01444; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:48:22 -0600 Received: from scot.genroco.com (scot.genroco.com [192.133.120.125]) by gi2.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA07315; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:48:18 -0600 Message-ID: <00fb01c07bee$4f0da0e0$7d7885c0@genroco.com> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "David Lawson" , "FreeBSD ISP" References: Subject: Re: Username Length Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:48:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "David Lawson" > How would I extend the maximum length of usernames for FreeBSD 4.1 > To change the maximum length of usernames you will need to change: file parameter default ------------------------ ---------- -------- /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h MAXLOGNAME 16 /usr/src/include/utmp.h UT_NAMESIZE 16 /usr/src/include/stdio.h L_cuserid (UT_NAMESIZE + 1) You will also need to change the adduser.pl, and rmuser.pl (/usr/src/usr.sbin/adduser) perl scripts to allow > 16 character names. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 14:27:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82CED37B698 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17165 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2001 22:25:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitaldaemon.com) (192.168.0.73) by jak.org with SMTP; 11 Jan 2001 22:25:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3A5E3305.6060102@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:26:13 -0500 From: Jan Knepper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: T1/DS1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I ordered a T1 quite a while ago and now Verizon seems to come around the corner and finally install the connection, however... I need a 4 ft square panel on the wall so they can mount a couple of things: - Fiber Cable Termination - Soneplex Equip - Smart Jack Shelf - Rectifier Cabinet - Battery Cabinet Also their instruction paper says: "Requirements for DS-1 Service via Fiber" Since I don't have that much experience I am beginning to wonder what is going on. Can any of you shed any light? Thanks! Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 14:52:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7671E37B400 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from server0 (cr901664-a.pr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.146.66]) by hawk-systems.com (8.8.8) id PAA27967 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:50:54 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave VanAuken" To: Subject: RE: T1/DS1 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:59:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3A5E3305.6060102@digitaldaemon.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Probably having diffuculty (or not bothering to) obtaining copper in your area, and instead laid fibre to the area(or bought fibre). They terminate the fibre at both ends, provision a DS1 signal over it and voila, you have a T-1. This was commonly done with T3(DS3) installations, but with the DSL craze, getting copper lines has become difficult, thus the move to provision fibre and cut bell out of the loop. If you can get the fibre in cheaply enough, having a customer pay for a copper DS1 with local loop and pocketing all the cash to pay for your fibre infrastructure instead of paying a bell is a good business model. Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jan Knepper Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:26 PM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: T1/DS1 Hi, I ordered a T1 quite a while ago and now Verizon seems to come around the corner and finally install the connection, however... I need a 4 ft square panel on the wall so they can mount a couple of things: - Fiber Cable Termination - Soneplex Equip - Smart Jack Shelf - Rectifier Cabinet - Battery Cabinet Also their instruction paper says: "Requirements for DS-1 Service via Fiber" Since I don't have that much experience I am beginning to wonder what is going on. Can any of you shed any light? Thanks! Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 15:13:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D947337B698 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from server0 (cr901664-a.pr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.146.66]) by hawk-systems.com (8.8.8) id QAA30955 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:11:28 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave VanAuken" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: ipaddr and domain TCP handling and directing Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:20:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looking for examples, direction, or scripts for the following (no jail solutions please): Situation: 4.2 Release, single NIC, moderately heavy install (no X) primary ipaddr 192.168.1.110 (private network for construction purposes) aliased ip addr 192.168.1.111-115 resolved dn server1-server5 Want to: - determine the ipaddress (or domain name) that is requested - then direct to a custom telnetd login based on the ipaddress with appropriate hostname= header identifying the "server" or resources they are logging into - have the telnetd use individual login and authentication files to allow re-use of uid/rw sets and seperate them from the root set. similar solution for ftp but chroot the user again, would like to do this without jail'ing a copy of the server... I do not want to chroot the telnet user since they should be able to have browing access over the shared libs and such... any thoughts along this line, in whole or in portions thereof, would be appreciated. would ideally like to use generic telnetd and ftpd applications instead of installing additionaly packages if possible. thanks Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 15:23:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kira.epconline.net (kira.epconline.net [209.83.132.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B201B37B402 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from therock (betterguard.epconline.net [209.83.132.193]) by kira.epconline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0BNNUN57101 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:23:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from carock@epconline.net) From: "Chuck Rock" To: Subject: RE: T1/DS1 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:27:06 -0600 Message-ID: <002f01c07c26$02e8b320$1805010a@epconline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've got a 4' x 4' x 3/4" piece of plywood mounted on the wall. It's painted black, and mounted into our concrete wall with four anchors. It's mounted in our building where the fiber comes in from outside. No big deal, they just need a dedicated area for their equipment. All of this equipment is their property, and they have these specifications for putting at your location. We've got an OC-3 which is fiber, and some T1's. The T1's use a "smart jack" which is basically a router type piece of equipment that converts the signal on the T1 to a signal your CSU/DSU can handle. Our fiber has a patchpanel where each of the fibers come in from outside to a jack on this panel, then they run that from the jack into our router. That patch panel is their equipment too. If you go into any businesses that have a phone system, or a lot of phone lines, you'll see a similar thing on their wall where all the phone equipment and patchpanels are. Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave VanAuken > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:00 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: T1/DS1 > > > Probably having diffuculty (or not bothering to) obtaining copper in > your area, and instead laid fibre to the area(or bought fibre). They > terminate the fibre at both ends, provision a DS1 signal over it and > voila, you have a T-1. > > This was commonly done with T3(DS3) installations, but with the DSL > craze, getting copper lines has become difficult, thus the move to > provision fibre and cut bell out of the loop. If you can get the > fibre in cheaply enough, having a customer pay for a copper DS1 with > local loop and pocketing all the cash to pay for your fibre > infrastructure instead of paying a bell is a good business model. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jan Knepper > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:26 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: T1/DS1 > > > Hi, > > I ordered a T1 quite a while ago and now Verizon seems to come around > the corner and finally install the connection, however... > > I need a 4 ft square panel on the wall so they can mount a couple of > things: > - Fiber Cable Termination > - Soneplex Equip > - Smart Jack Shelf > - Rectifier Cabinet > - Battery Cabinet > > Also their instruction paper says: "Requirements for DS-1 Service via > Fiber" > > Since I don't have that much experience I am beginning to wonder what > is > going on. > > Can any of you shed any light? > > Thanks! > Jan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 16:11:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569C837B6A4 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14Gr6V-0001kg-00; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:25:59 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:25:55 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: T1/DS1 In-Reply-To: <3A5E3305.6060102@digitaldaemon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: > Hi, > > I ordered a T1 quite a while ago and now Verizon seems to come around > the corner and finally install the connection, however... > > I need a 4 ft square panel on the wall so they can mount a couple of things: ... > Also their instruction paper says: "Requirements for DS-1 Service via Fiber" > > Since I don't have that much experience I am beginning to wonder what is > going on. > > Can any of you shed any light? > > Thanks! > Jan Well, you ordered a T1 and now they are installing it. Strange I know. Make sure you put up the good plywood (3/4 inch, smooth on one side). Just go to your hardware store and pick up a half-sheet. If you are concerned about asthetics, buy some white primer and paint it first. Make sure you mount it to the wall studs too, and not just to the drywall. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 16:33:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1BB137B6A7 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21581 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 00:31:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitaldaemon.com) (192.168.0.73) by jak.org with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 00:31:11 -0000 Message-ID: <3A5E5087.2050204@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:32:07 -0500 From: Jan Knepper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Samplonius Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: T1/DS1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Samplonius wrote: > Well, you ordered a T1 and now they are installing it. Strange I know. Yeah... Especially when you consider that I ordered the T1 May 2000... > Make sure you put up the good plywood (3/4 inch, smooth on one side). > Just go to your hardware store and pick up a half-sheet. If you are > concerned about asthetics, buy some white primer and paint it first. Make > sure you mount it to the wall studs too, and not just to the drywall. I understood it so far. Does the hardware that has to go onto it sound normal to you? Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 17:38:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C1037B401 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14GsSz-0001sp-00; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:53:17 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:53:15 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: T1/DS1 In-Reply-To: <3A5E5087.2050204@digitaldaemon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: > Tom Samplonius wrote: > > > Well, you ordered a T1 and now they are installing it. Strange I know. > > Yeah... > Especially when you consider that I ordered the T1 May 2000... > > > Make sure you put up the good plywood (3/4 inch, smooth on one side). > > Just go to your hardware store and pick up a half-sheet. If you are > > concerned about asthetics, buy some white primer and paint it first. Make > > sure you mount it to the wall studs too, and not just to the drywall. > > I understood it so far. > Does the hardware that has to go onto it sound normal to you? What does it matter? The telco owns it and maintains it. You just need to know where the demarc is, and everything on the other end of the demarc is mysterious telco stuff. For all you know, they might be using the equipment as a concentration point for the entire building. > Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 19: 1:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from comp1.mastery.ca (lan12.dzyn.win.mnsi.net [208.28.54.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E202437B400; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lan4 (dyn216-8-128-229.ADSL.mnsi.net [216.8.128.229]) (authenticated) by comp1.mastery.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0C30sF10042; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:00:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rmasse@mastery.ca) Message-ID: <009401c07c43$fe735c00$0400a8c0@Home> From: "Ryan Masse" To: "FreeBSD-Questions" Cc: Subject: sendmail queue Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:01:42 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could anyone provide some info with regards to setting up a secondary mail server? having the mail get queued in the secondary mail server when the PMS is down then send all the mail back to the PMS when back up? Thanks, Ryan Masse IT / Authoring Tech Mastery Group of Canada, Inc. Rmasse@mastery.ca http://www.masterycanada.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 11 23:22:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (ftp.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E89137B401; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AH9370.63.d1acf55c) with ESMTP id usqsaaaa for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:31:07 +1100 Message-ID: <3A5EB0E0.F9174C5B@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:23:12 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Masse Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail queue References: <009401c07c43$fe735c00$0400a8c0@Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ryan Masse wrote: > > Could anyone provide some info with regards to setting up a secondary mail > server? having the mail get queued in the secondary mail server when the PMS > is down then send all the mail back to the PMS when back up? That is done with the MX record in the DNS zone file... say you have server.domain.com zone with two mail servers, one local and one remote backup you would have this in the zone: server A x.x.x.x server MX 50 server.domain.com. server MX 60 backup.otherhost.com. You can have as many as you want... Mail will go to the lowest number MX first then the next and so on until its received by something... Setting up your smpt server is another matter and will depend on what you are using... Good Luck! Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 12 0:12:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1174337B400 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.207.93.139] by gate.trident-uk.co.uk for jan@digitaldaemon.com id IAA09351; Fri Jan 12 08:11:46 2001 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:21:29 +0000 Subject: Re: T1/DS1 Message-ID: <20010112082129.A1751@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> References: <3A5E3305.6060102@digitaldaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3A5E3305.6060102@digitaldaemon.com>; from jan@digitaldaemon.com on Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 22:26:13 +0000 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.0.0 Lines: 52 To: Jan Knepper From: Jamie Heckford Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, heres how its done in the UK... Depends on the speed of your line - this is what happened when I got 2MB You usually have a couple of boxes, depending on the service. For data you usually have a digital broadband box mounted on the wall, which handle a max capacity of around 8MB. The fibre leads plug straight into this. From this ThinEthernet cable (on mine) was run as my media, which I converted to X.21, and plugged into a cisco 2610. I didn't have a battery pack, mine is just powered from a UPS - but you probably have some kind of backup on the line as default, which is their own UPS. If your using the line for voice to, theres more than likely a MUX to go in somewhere. Seems like my box does everything in one - but may they split it up with you? Jamie On 2001.01.11 22:26:13 +0000 Jan Knepper wrote: > Hi, > > I ordered a T1 quite a while ago and now Verizon seems to come around > the corner and finally install the connection, however... > > I need a 4 ft square panel on the wall so they can mount a couple of > things: > - Fiber Cable Termination > - Soneplex Equip > - Smart Jack Shelf > - Rectifier Cabinet > - Battery Cabinet > > Also their instruction paper says: "Requirements for DS-1 Service via > Fiber" > > Since I don't have that much experience I am beginning to wonder what is > going on. > > Can any of you shed any light? > > Thanks! > Jan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 12 1:20:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C813937B402 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 01:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with BSMTP id f0C9K3w05046 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:20:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:15:32 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.76 References: <009401c07c43$fe735c00$0400a8c0@Home> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.90] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 20010112000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ryan Masse wrote: > Could anyone provide some info with regards to setting up a secondary mail > server? having the mail get queued in the secondary mail server when the PMS > is down then send all the mail back to the PMS when back up? 1) The easy way: configure Sendmail to accept mail for this host/domain: simply add in /etc/mail/mailertable: primary.do.main smpt:[hostname of primary mail-server] After rebuild of mailertable.db the server will accept mail for this domain and deliver it towards the primary server. Please keep the Hostname or IP in square brackets, to avoid any DNS-lookup. 2) For high loads or long downtime You might configure a special Queue or requiets it with ETRN, this could improve the performance, if you expect lots of mail. This take a bit more work on the configuration. kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany - Tel. +49-5606-6512 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 12 3:29:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8912237B69B for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.207.93.139] by gate.trident-uk.co.uk for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org id LAA21394; Fri Jan 12 11:25:08 2001 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:34:49 +0000 Subject: strange sendmail prob. Message-ID: <20010112113449.C2008@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.0.0 Lines: 22 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Jamie Heckford Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know what this error message means? Jan 12 10:49:31 marvin mail.local: lockmailbox /var/mail/jamie failed; error code 75 Permissions etc are all OK.. -- Jamie Heckford Chief Network Engineer Psi-Domain - Innovative Linux Solutions. Ask Us How. ===================================== email: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk web: http://www.psi-domain.co.uk/ tel: +44 (0)1737 789 246 fax: +44 (0)1737 789 245 mobile: +44 (0)7779 646 529 ===================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 12 6:29:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27F9C37B400 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21652 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 14:29:34 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (209.100.22.250) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 14:29:34 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "Jan Knepper" , Subject: RE: T1/DS1 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:29:33 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3A5E3305.6060102@digitaldaemon.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jan, This is normal, but if you can, I would reccomend that you offer them floor space to put a rack. If they don't bite, offer them the rack (23" CPI) as well. The fiber stuff works and looks /so/ much better in a rack. When I was in the planning/building stage of my current datacenter, I was fortunate enough to have a nice big wall for the telco. Verizon actually has a 23" rack, an 8' x 8' backboard (of which, I reserved a portion for my own stuff). From the backboard, I have a 12" cable ladder that runs from the telco wall all the way to my equipment racks. Their 23" rack has a short piece bridging the gap from the telco rack to the ladder. Somewhere around here, I have a diagram and parts list of what I put together. If interested, reply off list and I'll dig around for it. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 They told me to think out of the box, but I tripped over it, now I own my own company. ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jan Knepper ** Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:26 PM ** To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org ** Subject: T1/DS1 ** ** ** Hi, ** ** I ordered a T1 quite a while ago and now Verizon seems to come around ** the corner and finally install the connection, however... ** ** I need a 4 ft square panel on the wall so they can mount a ** couple of things: ** - Fiber Cable Termination ** - Soneplex Equip ** - Smart Jack Shelf ** - Rectifier Cabinet ** - Battery Cabinet ** ** Also their instruction paper says: "Requirements for DS-1 ** Service via Fiber" ** ** Since I don't have that much experience I am beginning to wonder what is ** going on. ** ** Can any of you shed any light? ** ** Thanks! ** Jan ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 12 18:31:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from woodruffs.net (jjw.smart.net [207.176.88.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D861C37B404 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from woodruffs.net (jjw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woodruffs.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA25341; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:29:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jjw@woodruffs.net) Message-ID: <3A5FBD7A.3E8FA09F@woodruffs.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:29:14 -0500 From: John Woodruff X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave VanAuken , Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: T1/DS1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jan Knepper wrote: > I ordered a T1 quite a while ago and now Verizon seems to come around > the corner and finally install the connection, however... > > I need a 4 ft square panel on the wall so they can mount a couple of things: > - Fiber Cable Termination > - Soneplex Equip > - Smart Jack Shelf > - Rectifier Cabinet > - Battery Cabinet Brings back memories of my last ISP. In 1996, I think. After running the building out of copper cables - twice - Bell Awful finally brought in a SONET ring, filled one wall of our suite with Lightspan SLC's, and terminated 2000 POTS pairs for modems. PM3's were just coming out, so we never ordered another POTS line (!). They did have to add more T1 shelves a couple of times, though; and finally a T3. At least they're running a fiber for your first T1. In the old daze, you got two pair all the way to the CO, with repeaters every 2000ft. BTW, that T1 "smart jack" is a critical, if lo-tech, piece if hardware. Look carefully inside the female jack, and you'll notice contact fingers that can tell when you're plugged in. If not, they connect the transmit pair to the recieve pair, thus forming a hardware "loop back". This lets Bell test their entire circuit from the CO to the jack, without involving anything you provided (even the cable), before you plug in. If you call and report a trouble, they'll have you unplug your wire and see if they can hear themselves. If not, they fix it. Next T1 turnup trick: Often, the Bell gear goes in a building wiring closet; and they use the building 50-pair cables to get to your suite (not Jan's case, but a common one nonetheless). You plug in your new router/DSU, and it can't hear a T1 carrier. The smart jack test passes, so Bell sez "it works fer us, buddy; your stuff is baroque". Make a cable that reverses TX and RX pairs, and see if that works. You see, a common wiring error is to swap the TX/RX pairs, and the smart jack test can't detect it. If they simply point to one of eight holes on the side of a Westel shelf, you won't have to worry about this. OK, the DSU has carrier, but your data is *terrible* - so bad that PPP can't negotiate. Bell sends a tech with a T-Berd, who pronounces the line OK, and slams you with an NTF (No Trouble Found) bill to boot. Did you order the line yourself (instead of getting it from your friendly upstream ISP) and forget to specify "B8ZS, ESF"? There's lots of tricks like this. Welcome to the T1 level. You're now only somewhat faster than the DSL newbie with a Windoze98 box, at 10x the price. Tom Samplonius wrote: > Make sure you mount it to the wall studs too, and not just to the > drywall. Be *sure* to heed this man's advice. Dave VanAuken wrote: > This was commonly done with T3(DS3) installations, but with the DSL > craze, getting copper lines has become difficult, thus the move to > provision fibre and cut bell out of the loop. If you can get the > fibre in cheaply enough, having a customer pay for a copper DS1 with > local loop and pocketing all the cash to pay for your fibre > infrastructure instead of paying a bell is a good business model. Er, Verizon *is* Bell. No last-mile-shaving here. A single T1 won't pay for a fiber installation - that's called "investment", as in "we sure hope someone orders more circuits on this fiber"... -- John Woodruff, Sr. Consultant PGP KeyFP: 66 18 1A 4E 55 08 40 E2 C7 B1 F2 D1 81 12 6D BF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 1:28:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BC437B400 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:28:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0D9S2o04437; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:28:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leif@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (leif@localhost) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0D9Rrg45915; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:27:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leif@neland.dk) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:27:51 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: avpkeeper-users@ns.internet.dk Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: avpkeeper-user mailinglist Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I run avpkeeper on Freebsd and Linux, and have recieved a number of questions about the installation. As there seems to be no forum for discussing this (it is not FreeBSD-specfic), I have taken the liberty to create the list "avpkeeper-users@ns.internet.dk" I have subscribed the persons, which has send me questions. It is a manually-maintained list, i.e. it is just an alias, no fancy majordomo-stuff (yet), so to (un-)subscribe, just write to leifn@neland.dk (that's me) or owner-avpkeeper-users@ns.internet.dk (that's me too) I'll be sending a few tips I've gotten from Kaspersky, and my cfg-files. Leif Neland leifn@neland.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 1:51:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862A737B400 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0D9ow234126; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:50:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0D9oki46097; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:50:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:50:46 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: Dirk Meyer Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail queue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Dirk Meyer wrote: > Ryan Masse wrote: > > > Could anyone provide some info with regards to setting up a secondary mail > > server? having the mail get queued in the secondary mail server when the PMS > > is down then send all the mail back to the PMS when back up? > > 1) The easy way: > configure Sendmail to accept mail for this host/domain: > simply add in /etc/mail/mailertable: > > primary.do.main smpt:[hostname of primary mail-server] > > After rebuild of mailertable.db the server will accept mail > for this domain and deliver it towards the primary server. > Please keep the Hostname or IP in square brackets, > to avoid any DNS-lookup. > This is not needed. sendmail will look at the mx-records, and will send to the primary mailserver when it becomes available. You could put primary.do.main dsmtp:[hostname of primary mail-server] Then sendmail wouldn't try delivering until the primary mailserver sent an ETRN to this server. It is however nessecary to tell sendmail to accept relaying to that domain, otherwise it will be rejected with "we do not relay". 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 14:25:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8CB37B698 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0DMPPC61255 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:25:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0DMPDi49222 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:25:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:25:13 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Any unix mailclient which does smtp auth? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm experimenting with smtp auth. Is there an unix MUA, which will do smtp auth? sendmail is "smtp auth-enabled": Script started on Sat Jan 13 23:21:35 2001 gina~ # telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 gina.neland.dk ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.1/8.11.1; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:21:43 +0100 (CET) ehlo localhost 250-gina.neland.dk Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ONEX 250-ETRN 250-XUSR 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 250 HELP quit I've tried with Outlook express and checked "Smtp host requires authentication", but no auth is being done. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 14:49:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D6D37B69E for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from admin.westbend.net (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) (authenticated) by mail.westbend.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0DMnbQ79811; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:49:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <004201c07db2$d9a20aa0$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Leif Neland" , References: Subject: Re: Any unix mailclient which does smtp auth? Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:47:45 -0600 Organization: West Bend Interent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Leif Neland" > > I'm experimenting with smtp auth. > Is there an unix MUA, which will do smtp auth? > Netscape Communicator, possibly pine also. > Script started on Sat Jan 13 23:21:35 2001 > gina~ # telnet localhost 25 > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 gina.neland.dk ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.1/8.11.1; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:21:43 +0100 (CET) > ehlo localhost > 250-gina.neland.dk Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 250-8BITMIME > 250-SIZE > 250-DSN > 250-ONEX > 250-ETRN > 250-XUSR > 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > 250 HELP > quit > > I've tried with Outlook express and checked "Smtp host requires > authentication", but no auth is being done. > I have Outlook Express working on my SMTP AUTH enabled server. In the Accounts properties, I made the following changes: Outgoing Mail Server -> My server requires authentication Settings -> Log on using Enter "Account name", and "Password", then check "Remember password" Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 15: 8:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.amplex.net (bsd.amplex.net [209.57.124.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3345237B6A0 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by bsd.amplex.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0DN8Lp46032 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org.AVP; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from web.amplex.net (web.amplex.net [209.57.124.26]) by bsd.amplex.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0DN8KV46024 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from marklaptop ([209.57.124.58] unverified) by web.amplex.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:08:19 -0500 From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: Subject: RE: Any unix mailclient which does smtp auth? Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:13:16 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2001 23:08:19.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8281100:01C07DB5] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don't know about Unix but it should work with both Netscape 4 and higher as well as Outlook Express. Note that Netscape will REQUIRE you to use a password once the server offers AUTH even if you have click the box "never use authentication". Any error messages when you start sendmail? Mark Radabaugh VP, Amplex (419)833-3635 mark@amplex.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Leif Neland > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 5:25 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Any unix mailclient which does smtp auth? > > > I'm experimenting with smtp auth. > Is there an unix MUA, which will do smtp auth? > > sendmail is "smtp auth-enabled": > > Script started on Sat Jan 13 23:21:35 2001 > gina~ # telnet localhost 25 > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 gina.neland.dk ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.1/8.11.1; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 > 23:21:43 +0100 (CET) > ehlo localhost > 250-gina.neland.dk Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 250-8BITMIME > 250-SIZE > 250-DSN > 250-ONEX > 250-ETRN > 250-XUSR > 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > 250 HELP > quit > > I've tried with Outlook express and checked "Smtp host requires > authentication", but no auth is being done. > > Leif > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 16:11:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7978537B400 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01176 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:09:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:08:40 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with sendmail and NSI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network Solutions. I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form to the e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. I've called them repeatedly and they say it's a problem with my mail settings. The mail never hits my box from what I've seen. Nothing in the logs and nothing in my /etc/hosts-allow. I can specify to send it to a yahoo or hotmail account and it will work, but any domain on this box, won't receive it. I was wondering if any of you knew another reason why mail from NSI won't hit sendmail. It appears all other mail goes through the box just fine. Thanks. J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 17:52: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604FD37B400 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from admin.westbend.net (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) (authenticated) by mail.westbend.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0E1phQ82912; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:51:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <010101c07dcc$45f10e40$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Mark Radabaugh" , References: Subject: Re: Any unix mailclient which does smtp auth? Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:49:45 -0600 Organization: West Bend Interent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Mark Radabaugh" > Don't know about Unix but it should work with both Netscape 4 and higher as well > as Outlook Express. Note that Netscape will REQUIRE you to use a password once > the server offers AUTH even if you have click the box "never use > authentication". > Netscape's requirement to supply a password to a server that offers AUTH can be disabled by adding user_pref("mail.auth_login", false); to the Netscape prefs.js file. This stops Netscape from using SMTP AUTH with the server. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 21: 5:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71A037B792 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with BSMTP id f0E554u19082 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:05:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:00:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.77 References: X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.90] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 20010114000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif Neland schrieb:, > > 1) The easy way: > > configure Sendmail to accept mail for this host/domain: > > simply add in /etc/mail/mailertable: > > > > primary.do.main smpt:[hostname of primary mail-server] > > > This is not needed. sendmail will look at the mx-records, and will send to > the primary mailserver when it becomes available. only if you configure the FEATURE(`relay_based_on_MX|) or you have already condigured to be RELAY for this domain. If you add entry's in "mailertable" you don't need to permit RELAY for them. kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 21:33: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (ftp.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C29B37B401 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AH9370.63.d1acf55c) with ESMTP id gdrsaaaa for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:41:16 +1100 Message-ID: <3A613A19.3D7A6895@quake.com.au> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:33:13 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail queue References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dirk Meyer wrote: > > Leif Neland schrieb:, > > > > 1) The easy way: > > > configure Sendmail to accept mail for this host/domain: > > > simply add in /etc/mail/mailertable: > > > > > > primary.do.main smpt:[hostname of primary mail-server] > > > > > This is not needed. sendmail will look at the mx-records, and will send to > > the primary mailserver when it becomes available. > > only if you configure the > FEATURE(`relay_based_on_MX|) > or you have already condigured to be RELAY for this domain. > > If you add entry's in "mailertable" you don't need to permit RELAY for them. And you need to be aware that this opens the way for ANYONE that runs DNS for a domain can then add you as an MX for there domain and relay through you... So its probably better to use the /etc/mail/ files to control relays... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 23: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from e450.mnsi.net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84B937B401 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lan4 (dyn216-8-128-247.ADSL.mnsi.net [216.8.128.247]) by e450.mnsi.net (8.8.8/waffleiron) with SMTP id BAA16263; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:59:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002401c07df7$ac1c3de0$0400a8c0@Home> From: "Ryan Masse" To: "Kal Torak" Cc: References: <3A613A19.3D7A6895@quake.com.au> Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 02:00:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org heh well let me through a monkey rench into this... I'm using the cyrus-sasl and sendmail-8.11.1 for smtpauth to control relays. If i do create this field in the relay-domains /etc/mail won't the smtpauth overwride this and deny relay withought authenticating? Next question.. > > > This is not needed. sendmail will look at the mx-records, and will send to > > > the primary mailserver when it becomes available. How will the SMS know what the primary MX record is if this machine is on a sepereate network? how do i configure this? primary server---> mail, web, ftp, etc secondary--> only secondary mail server how does the secondary mail server 1. know to queue the mail and not send it to a local inbox 2. know when to send the queued mail to the primary MX 3. know the primary MX in the first place? Sorry i'm missing the connection here =\ Thanks, Ryan Masse From: Kal Torak Cc: > Dirk Meyer wrote: > > > > Leif Neland schrieb:, > > > > > > 1) The easy way: > > > > configure Sendmail to accept mail for this host/domain: > > > > simply add in /etc/mail/mailertable: > > > > > > > > primary.do.main smpt:[hostname of primary mail-server] > > > > > > > This is not needed. sendmail will look at the mx-records, and will send to > > > the primary mailserver when it becomes available. > > > > only if you configure the > > FEATURE(`relay_based_on_MX|) > > or you have already condigured to be RELAY for this domain. > > > > If you add entry's in "mailertable" you don't need to permit RELAY for them. > > And you need to be aware that this opens the way for ANYONE that runs > DNS for a domain can then add you as an MX for there domain and relay > through you... So its probably better to use the /etc/mail/ files to > control relays... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 13 23: 5: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from e450.mnsi.net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889E837B404 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lan4 (dyn216-8-128-247.ADSL.mnsi.net [216.8.128.247]) by e450.mnsi.net (8.8.8/waffleiron) with SMTP id CAA17481; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 02:04:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006101c07df8$62c1bfc0$0400a8c0@Home> From: "Ryan Masse" To: Cc: References: <010101c07dcc$45f10e40$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Subject: Re: Any unix mailclient which does smtp auth? Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 02:05:31 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pine 4.X will do smtpauth when the smtpauth services promts for authentification. I haven't looked into the config area for setting this auth strings but i know when i implemented smtpauth with sendmail-8.11.1 using the 'a' option for authenticating all connections, i was able to use pine to authenticate. Hope this helps =\ Ryan Masse From: Scot W. Hetzel To: Mark Radabaugh ; > From: "Mark Radabaugh" > > Don't know about Unix but it should work with both Netscape 4 and higher > as well > > as Outlook Express. Note that Netscape will REQUIRE you to use a password > once > > the server offers AUTH even if you have click the box "never use > > authentication". > > > Netscape's requirement to supply a password to a server that offers AUTH can > be disabled by adding > > user_pref("mail.auth_login", false); > > to the Netscape prefs.js file. > > This stops Netscape from using SMTP AUTH with the server. > > Scot > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message