From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 0: 7:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B1737B41E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAB89YB28403 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 02:09:35 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 02:09:34 -0600 (CST) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Sprint PCS / AirCard 510 on newcard In-Reply-To: <20011111024733.A13232@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org given the mail that doug sent out earlier today, there is some unhappiness in the cis parsing code that doesnt permit us to see all of the cises? cisii? :-) correctly. Tuple #2, code = 0x6 (Long link to next chain for MFC), length = 11 i am guessing the stuff about Long link is referring to the problem, but i really dunno yet. On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > John Utz probably said: > > the 4.4 version of pccardd worked on my 4.3 box with my 3com 574b card but > > it dumped core on the AirCard. it does appear to have died in a > > *different* spot than the 43 version did. > > My aircard arrived yesterday, I'm running fairly recent 4.4-STABLE > (around Tue Oct 30). > > With a config of; > > card "Sierra Wireless" "AC510 Modem" > config 0x1 "sio" ? > > (or any other config number) I get; > > Nov 11 02:25:47 disapp pccardd[13446]: Resource allocation failure for > "Sierra Wireless"("AC510 Modem") [(null)] [(null)]; Reason specified > CIS was not found > > With a config using 'auto' pccardd dumps core. I've got a core dump I > can poke at when I'm more awake but I'll need debugging info since the > stack isn't very useful with more info ... > > > The CIS info is; > > Configuration data for card in slot 0 > Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 2 > 000: 00 ff > Common memory device information: > Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF > Speed = No speed, Memory block size = reserved, 32 units > Tuple #2, code = 0x6 (Long link to next chain for MFC), length = 11 > 000: 02 00 3e 00 00 00 00 aa 00 00 00 > Function 0: attribute memory, address 0x3e > Function 1: attribute memory, address 0xaa > Tuple #3, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 31 > 000: 01 01 53 69 65 72 72 61 20 57 69 72 65 6c 65 73 > 010: 73 00 41 43 35 31 30 20 4d 6f 64 65 6d 00 ff > Version = 1.1, Manuf = [Sierra Wireless], card vers = [AC510 Modem] > Tuple #4, code = 0x20 (Manufacturer ID), length = 4 > 000: 92 01 00 03 > PCMCIA ID = 0x192, OEM ID = 0x300 > Tuple #5, code = 0x17 (Attribute memory descriptor), length = 3 > 000: 41 00 ff > Attribute memory device information: > Device number 1, type EEPROM, WPS = OFF > Speed = 250nS, Memory block size = 512b, 1 units > Tuple #6, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 > 1 slots found > > P. > > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 4:54:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail48.fg.online.no (mail48-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6D937B41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 04:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from osltoringol-hpc (ti211310a011-0248.dialup.online.no [130.67.240.248]) by mail48.fg.online.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10165 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:54:40 +0100 (MET) From: "Torfinn Ingolfsen" To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:50:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Two FreeBSDs on same disk, booting secondary slice? Message-ID: <3BEE8243.1115.97AA66@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've tried out this question in the newsgroups with no answer, maybe some of you will know the answer. My work laptop (an IBM ThinkPad X20) has serveral OS'es installed. I have Win2K, Mandrake Linux and FreeBSD. For various reasons, I wish to have 2 FreeBSD installations on this disk. FreeBSD 4.3 is installed on slice 3 (ad0s3), and FreeBSD 4.4 is installed on slice 4 (ad0s4). (This will have FreeBSD-current on it later, for testing purposes). The problem is, when FreeBSD boots, it automatically takes the first FreeBSD slice and boots from that. How do I make the boot process automatically boot from the slice I've choosen in the boot menu? if I interrupt the boot process, I can always set curredev, unload and load the kernel, but that isn't good enough. For info, I'm using LILO as the boot loader, and I specify the correct partition ("slice") there, slice 3 is hda3 and slice 4 is hda4. But, when the FreeBSD boot loader starts, it still boots the first FreeBSD slice. For various reasons, I do not wish to use booteasy, if I can avoid it. I've read all I can about /boot/loader.conf etc., but I can't seem to get this to work. Pointers to relevant info? -- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 5:28:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC27337B405 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fABDSWp02311; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:28:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:28:32 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200111111328.fABDSWp02311@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, torfinn.ingolfsen@oslo.online.no Subject: Re: Two FreeBSDs on same disk, booting secondary slice? In-Reply-To: <3BEE8243.1115.97AA66@localhost> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: "Torfinn Ingolfsen" >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:50:59 +0100 >My work laptop (an IBM ThinkPad X20) has serveral OS'es >installed. I have Win2K, Mandrake Linux and FreeBSD. >For various reasons, I wish to have 2 FreeBSD installations on >this disk. FreeBSD 4.3 is installed on slice 3 (ad0s3), and >FreeBSD 4.4 is installed on slice 4 (ad0s4). (This will have >FreeBSD-current on it later, for testing purposes). OK; I've been doing something along these lines on my laptop (and ubsequently, on my build machine). See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/laptop.html (a little more than halfway down the page) for my deathless prose on the topic. >The problem is, when FreeBSD boots, it automatically takes the >first FreeBSD slice and boots from that. That has not been my experience. >How do I make the boot process automatically boot from the slice >I've choosen in the boot menu? >if I interrupt the boot process, I can always set curredev, unload and >load the kernel, but that isn't good enough. I've never needed to do that, as far as I can tell -- and I've been using this setup to build & boot -STABLE & -CURRENT daily for quite a while. Granted, I've only been running (different versions of) FreeBSD, so that may have some bearing on what I'm seeing. And I'm using the FreeBSD-default boot loader. >For info, I'm using LILO as the boot loader, and I specify the correct >partition ("slice") there, slice 3 is hda3 and slice 4 is hda4. But, >when the FreeBSD boot loader starts, it still boots the first >FreeBSD slice. For various reasons, I do not wish to use booteasy, >if I can avoid it. OK; I'll sympathize, but these are the only 2 salient differences I can think of. Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 5:50:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp2.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F43237B419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p537.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.201.101]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fABDoD811363; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:50:13 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:50:08 +0100 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Torfinn Ingolfsen" Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Two FreeBSDs on same disk, booting secondary slice? Message-Id: <20011111145008.708af364.steve@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <3BEE8243.1115.97AA66@localhost> References: <3BEE8243.1115.97AA66@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) X-Face: %]+HVL}K`P8>+8ZcY-WGHP6j@&mxMo9JH6_WdgIgUGH)JX/usO0%jy7T~IVgqjumD^OBqX,Kv^-GM6mlw(fI^$"QRKyZ$?xx/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:50:59 +0100 "Torfinn Ingolfsen" wrote: > The problem is, when FreeBSD boots, it automatically takes the > first FreeBSD slice and boots from that. Eh, it's been a while but my multibooting machines always offered me F1 for this, F2 for that and so forth just using the standard FreeBSD booteasy. If you are using DOS style MBRs and no boot manager then you need to install a boot manager. > For info, I'm using LILO as the boot loader, and I specify the correct Ah, I see. > partition ("slice") there, slice 3 is hda3 and slice 4 is hda4. But, > when the FreeBSD boot loader starts, it still boots the first > FreeBSD slice. For various reasons, I do not wish to use booteasy, > if I can avoid it. How about grub then. It sounds like a LILO problem. I've never tried booting BSD with LILO. -- C:>WIN | Directable Mirrors The computer obeys and wins. |A Better Way To Focus The Sun You lose and Bill collects. | licenses available - see: | http://www.sohara.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 9:10:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net (viper.oldcity.dca.net [216.158.38.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BC837B425; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from defiant.mutara.net (ns1.mutara.net [216.158.26.30]) by viper.oldcity.dca.net (8.11.6/8.9.3/DCANET) with ESMTP id fABHAW219384; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:10:32 -0500 Received: (from cgriffiths@localhost) by defiant.mutara.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fABHAsc09008; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:10:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cgriffiths@dca.net) X-Authentication-Warning: defiant.mutara.net: cgriffiths set sender to cgriffiths@dca.net using -f Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:10:54 -0500 From: Chris Griffiths To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Sound Issues on Sony Z505JE Message-ID: <20011111121054.A8837@dca.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.4-STABLE (i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am running 4.4-stable built as of yesterday. I have been unable to get my sound card to work using either form and also enabling sound modules: device pcm device csa If I try to play an MP3 using mpg123 I get the following message in /var/log/messages: /kernel: pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead I also tried playing wavfiles and get feedback and then nothing, and movies using xanim get no sound at all. I have searched the archives and found some people saying this is a bug and saw one pr http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25442 for a bug on a IBM A20 with a similar problem that was fixed by adding the device csa into kernel config. This however did not solve my problem. Here is a cat of /dev/sndstat: FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Nov 11 2001 00:27:47 Installed devices: pcm0: at memory 0xfecf0000 irq 9 (4p/2r/0v channels duplex) Here is dmesg: pcm0: mem 0xfecf0000-0xfecf7fff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 Any help with getting my sound back and working would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 9:26:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.alphaque.com (ns2.alphaque.com [202.185.254.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBB6437B405 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9718 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2001 17:26:35 -0000 Received: from ns2.alphaque.com (HELO prophet.alphaque.com) (202.185.254.11) by ns2.alphaque.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2001 17:26:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (7n2owvi01fe5y0of@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prophet.alphaque.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fABG77A01599; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:07:07 +0800 (MYT) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:07:07 +0800 (MYT) From: Dinesh Nair To: Bob Ney Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: an and wi ad-hoc talking In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011110233357.027e4410@pop.quiknet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Bob Ney wrote: > point to point and sectorized for cell type distribution. We have rolled > out several hundred 2.4 customers all over the Sacramento area this way and with directional cells, would your customers need high gain antennas as well, or would the stock pcmcia cards work ? Regards, /\_/\ "All dogs go to heaven." dinesh@alphaque.com (0 0) http://www.alphaque.com/ +==========================----oOO--(_)--OOo----==========================+ | for a in past present future; do | | for b in clients employers associates relatives neighbours pets; do | | echo "The opinions here in no way reflect the opinions of my $a $b." | | done; done | +=========================================================================+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 9:47:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from vaio.aviaport.ru (dialup-h.aviaport.ru [217.69.199.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640B037B42A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:47:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by vaio.aviaport.ru (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D28B5E2C97; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:47:32 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:47:32 +0300 From: Juriy Goloveshkin To: Chris Griffiths Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Issues on Sony Z505JE Message-ID: <20011111174732.GA5618@aviaport.ru> References: <20011111121054.A8837@dca.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011111121054.A8837@dca.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 12:10:54PM -0500, Chris Griffiths wrote: > I am running 4.4-stable built as of yesterday. I have been unable to > get my sound card to work using either form and also enabling sound > modules: > > device pcm > device csa > > If I try to play an MP3 using mpg123 I get the following message in > /var/log/messages: > /kernel: pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead try to turn off 'PnP OS' in BIOS. -- bye Juriy Goloveshkin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 10: 4:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57B337B417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fABI6UB26796 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:06:30 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:06:30 -0600 (CST) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Subject: isnt pccard_ether supposed to replace the need to ifconfig and route add? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi; i am probably being stupid in some way, but pccard_ether doesnt seem to do what i would expect. after i insert my 3com 574bt, i still have to do an ifconfig ep0 inet 172.16.0.6 255.255.255.0 route add default 172.16.0.1 to get any networking. am i supposed to hack this into pccard_ether? or is that the purpose of the calls to /etc/start_if.{interface} that are in the script? tnx for any help you can provider... -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 11:12:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259CA37B417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fABJCja28578; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:12:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fABJCi774306; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:12:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200111111912.fABJCi774306@harmony.village.org> To: John Utz Subject: Re: Sprint PCS / AirCard 510 on newcard Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2001 02:09:34 CST." References: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:12:44 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message John Utz writes: : given the mail that doug sent out earlier today, there is some unhappiness : in the cis parsing code that doesnt permit us to see all of the cises? : cisii? :-) correctly. : : Tuple #2, code = 0x6 (Long link to next chain for MFC), length = 11 : : i am guessing the stuff about Long link is referring to the problem, but i : really dunno yet. This likely is a cause of problems. The OLDCARD pccard cis parsing code isn't very good about these. I'm wondering, is there an easy way to get ahold of one of these cards? They seem to be popping up a lot lately. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 11:13:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D4CC37B416 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18651 invoked by uid 0); 11 Nov 2001 19:13:17 -0000 Received: from pd9508853.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO mail.gsinet.sittig.org) (217.80.136.83) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 11 Nov 2001 19:13:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 68036 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2001 19:10:10 -0000 Received: from shell.gsinet.sittig.org (192.168.11.153) by mail.gsinet.sittig.org with SMTP; 11 Nov 2001 19:10:10 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by shell.gsinet.sittig.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fABJA7q68030 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:10:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sittig) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:10:07 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Two FreeBSDs on same disk, booting secondary slice? Message-ID: <20011111201007.F39804@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3BEE8243.1115.97AA66@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BEE8243.1115.97AA66@localhost>; from torfinn.ingolfsen@oslo.online.no on Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 01:50:59PM +0100 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 13:50 +0100, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > For various reasons, I wish to have 2 FreeBSD installations on > this disk. FreeBSD 4.3 is installed on slice 3 (ad0s3), and > FreeBSD 4.4 is installed on slice 4 (ad0s4). (This will have > FreeBSD-current on it later, for testing purposes). Last time I tried this, sysinstall wouldn't have helped me there. But with a little manual intervention it is possible. Let's see: It takes three slices (at least I would do and did it this way) - one, say 128MB, for the -STABLE root fs - another 128MB one for the -CURRENT root fs - and a bigger one with all the rest, like - swap space - -STABLE's and -CURRENT's /usr, /var, /tmp partitions (single per boot option) - maybe shared, maybe singe /home partition, could hold a common source tree, CVS repo, or whatever Putting / in separate and early created slices is what I got used to for circumventing BIOS limitations (you surely know the infamous 1024 cylinder problem). I don't care too much if today's machines could cope with root fs'es located anywhere -- as long as I can spare the separate slices I will happily do so and know things will work. :) Feel free to evaluate for yourself if different layouts work. :> You install the first system as usual with its root fs in /dev/ad0s1 and the other partitions in /dev/ad0s3. After the system runs, you have to act here: boot from any recovery means (life CD, rescue disk, whatever -- could even be Linux. Either mark the root fs slice as non-FreeBSD or mark the root partition something different from "a" (neither "b" nor "c", of course). This way it will be hidden from the second system you are about to install. Then install the second system and put its root fs into /dev/ad0s2 and the other partitions into /dev/ad0s3. You may share swap and /home here. I would never share /usr nor /var. And I wouldn't think too long about sharing /tmp. Today's disks are rather big, even in notebooks. When things work, you can rename the first system's root partition back to ad0s1a. Boot loaders don't have a problem with the situation, they just boot the system whose(id?) root partition you jumped into. The only "problem" IIUC is sysinstall not letting you select (even create? don't remember too well since my setup works now) ad0s2a as root if there is already some ad0s1a partition. > The problem is, when FreeBSD boots, it automatically takes the > first FreeBSD slice and boots from that. No, neither did I experience this just like David never did. :) You might be tricked into thinking this when sysinstall's disk editor prevents you from creating two root partitions. > How do I make the boot process automatically boot from the slice > I've choosen in the boot menu? booteasy (FreeBSD's default boot loader) works fine. It's just that one has to remember which two of the three FreeBSD slices are the boot options' root fses. :) But apart from this visual annoyance I've not had enough pressure to look out for different boot loaders. I guess I boot my machines too rarely. :] > For info, I'm using LILO as the boot loader, and I specify the correct > partition ("slice") there, slice 3 is hda3 and slice 4 is hda4. But, > when the FreeBSD boot loader starts, it still boots the first > FreeBSD slice. For various reasons, I do not wish to use booteasy, > if I can avoid it. I can understand your reasons (self chosen labels, additional parameters - for those kernels to understand them - plus boot menus with cursor navigation and maybe even graphics screens if you feel like it). But I don't quite get how much of installation already happened on your machine. Do you already have two FreeBSD systems on it? How did you get there? And if it's only one, how can you state that the loader always starts the first one? :) You see, I'm somewhat puzzled ... Do your normal installation (with the hiding mentioned above between the two runs) and instruct the installer to *not* touch the MBR. I take it LILO lives there or the standard (DOS?) MBR lives there and the Linux partition with LILO in it is the active "partition". As soon as LILO has gotten control, you should be free to choose any of the discussed options: load one of several Linux kernels, maybe load DOS or floppy / CD images, or jump to FreeBSD's -STABLE or -CURRENT root fs (hda3 and hda4 in your example, which reminds me: you have to "renumber" my examples above, but you should get the idea). BTW: Many thanks to David Wolfskill whom I was discussing this very topic with via PM back in April. I suggest you visit his website for another description and many more BSD hints. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 11:14: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C9C37B405 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fABJE5a28591; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:14:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fABJE5774339; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:14:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200111111914.fABJE5774339@harmony.village.org> To: Dinesh Nair Subject: Re: an and wi ad-hoc talking Cc: Bob Ney , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:07:07 +0800." References: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:14:05 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Dinesh Nair writes: : On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Bob Ney wrote: : : > point to point and sectorized for cell type distribution. We have rolled : > out several hundred 2.4 customers all over the Sacramento area this way and : : with directional cells, would your customers need high gain antennas as : well, or would the stock pcmcia cards work ? Stock pcmcia antennas on the pcmcia cards suck so bad that you likely need them reguardless, unless you have "ideal" conditions. Anything involving customers and houses and such deviates substantially from "ideal" conditions :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 11:20: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C110737B416 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 16309D-0007W6-00 for mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:20:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:20:03 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint PCS / AirCard 510 on newcard Message-ID: <20011111142003.D26866@pir.net> Reply-To: mobile@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200111111912.fABJCi774306@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111111912.fABJCi774306@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 12:12:44PM -0700 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh probably said: > I'm wondering, is there an easy way to get ahold of one of these > cards? They seem to be popping up a lot lately. SprintPCS had an offer (which I heard about here) for a free card and free service for 60 days/2500 minutes but the URL quoted doesn't appear to work anymore. http://sprintpcs.i33.com/b2bwwmodem/signup.asp. P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 12:28:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F81137B416 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fABKUnB30347; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:30:49 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:30:49 -0600 (CST) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Warner Losh Cc: Subject: Re: Sprint PCS / AirCard 510 on newcard In-Reply-To: <200111111912.fABJCi774306@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > In message John Utz writes: > : given the mail that doug sent out earlier today, there is some unhappiness > : in the cis parsing code that doesnt permit us to see all of the cises? > : cisii? :-) correctly. > : > : Tuple #2, code = 0x6 (Long link to next chain for MFC), length = 11 > : > : i am guessing the stuff about Long link is referring to the problem, but i > : really dunno yet. > > This likely is a cause of problems. The OLDCARD pccard cis parsing > code isn't very good about these. does pccardd and pccardc share the same implementation? or is it 2 identical copies in 2 parts of the tree? or does pccardd call pccardc to sort this out? i'd love to see whatever doug and his helper came up with at this point, i dont care if it's lame, i'll put it in and try it and see if i can improve upon it.... his last mail said that he got it to cis-parse ok, but that when it called sio it hung his box. so, it seems that either: 1. it's not actually parsing *quite* ok :-) 2. it's not actually implemented as a serial port, just a facsimile thereof.... -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 12:30:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319A737B417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fABKUea28847; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:30:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fABKUd775058; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:30:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200111112030.fABKUd775058@harmony.village.org> To: John Utz Subject: Re: Sprint PCS / AirCard 510 on newcard Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:30:49 CST." References: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:30:39 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The fastest way for me to cope would be to get one of these cards in my grubby little hands :-) Is there anybody in Boulder/Denver Colorado willing to loan me one :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 13:34:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C6D37B405 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1632Ex-00040V-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:34:07 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: Dinesh Nair , Bob Ney , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: an and wi ad-hoc talking References: <200111111914.fABJE5774339@harmony.village.org> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:34:07 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org all this talk about antennas etc. while all this stuff is well documented on various web sites. e.g. try but what got me about your message was having ad hoc going well on wi. and i wonder if anyone has base-station mode going? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 13:39:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8129037B419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27052; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:39:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:39:07 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Michael Scheidell Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: does shutdown -p work for anyone for 4.3? Message-ID: <20011111143907.B26953@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <003a01c1693d$34dee930$2801010a@MIKELT> <3BEC0AA4.10759FBF@millions.ca> <008201c16946$adb93d70$2801010a@MIKELT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <008201c16946$adb93d70$2801010a@MIKELT>; from scheidell@fdma.com on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:48:02PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:48:02PM -0500, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > Works fine for me on my Sony Z505 (running 4.3-Stable from July) > > and an older Toshiba I set up for a friend (running 4.4-Release) > > I don't have the model of the Toshiba, it is in Florida and I > > am, well, NOT :-) > > > > The following line in kernel config > > device apm > > Anyone know how to debug it? when you type shutdown -p and it sends a > SIGUSR2 to process #1, where in the kernel it calls apm_power_off()? > > It looks like my hardware is calling SUSPENDREQ and not power down. For what it's worth, this kind of problem isn't limited to FreeBSD. I've got a Sony SR5K that doesn't get it right with the factory installed Windows 2000 Pro. If I shutdown, it will stop and the lights go out but it is in some limbo-land that is like a hibernate to disk from which it usually won't wake up. About two thirds the time I have to do the "hold the power switch for 5 seconds" to get it to =really= turn off, and then turn it on. About one in 20 times I have to pull the battery, then =try= to turn it on, then reinstall the battery and then start it. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 13:46:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751B637B417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fABLkfa29019; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:46:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fABLke775524; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:46:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200111112146.fABLke775524@harmony.village.org> To: Randy Bush Subject: Re: an and wi ad-hoc talking Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:34:07 PST." References: <200111111914.fABJE5774339@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:46:40 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Randy Bush writes: : but what got me about your message was having ad hoc going well on wi. and : i wonder if anyone has base-station mode going? Yes. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C16AF2.1304DC00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 15: 8:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dmlb.org (pc1-camb6-0-cust228.cam.cable.ntl.com [62.253.135.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A2B37B418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dmlb by dmlb.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1633iW-0005jZ-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:08:44 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200111102300.fAAN0g767233@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:08:43 -0000 (GMT) From: Duncan Barclay To: Warner Losh Subject: RE: an and wi ad-hoc talking Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Are the Orinoco's really doing a generic ad-hoc? Or is it a hacked up thing? Can you obtain the BSS id's from the Orinocos (should be the same) and the one from the Cisco card. If an ad-hoc node does not actually find a BSS it can create a new one on its own. Additionally look at the low level parameters such as DIFS, PIFS, beacon interval etc. There may be a mismatch between these on the different manufacturers cards. Are both WiFi certified to be interoperable in ad-hoc mode? 802.11 is an advisory standard and there is a lot of difference in implementations... D --- ________________________________________________________________________ Duncan Barclay | God smiles upon the little children, dmlb@dmlb.org | the alcoholics, and the permanently stoned. dmlb@freebsd.org| Steven King To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 15:10:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail45.fg.online.no (mail45-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6353537B41C for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from osltoringol-hpc (ti211310a010-0186.dialup.online.no [148.122.159.186]) by mail45.fg.online.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23228 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:10:24 +0100 (MET) From: "Torfinn Ingolfsen" To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:06:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Two FreeBSDs on same disk, booting secondary slice? Message-ID: <3BEF1290.2663.3F79F2@localhost> In-reply-to: <20011111201007.F39804@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> References: <3BEE8243.1115.97AA66@localhost>; from torfinn.ingolfsen@oslo.online.no on Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 01:50:59PM +0100 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > No, neither did I experience this just like David never did. :) You > might be tricked into thinking this when sysinstall's disk editor > prevents you from creating two root partitions. sysinstall wasn't a problem, see below. > I can understand your reasons (self chosen labels, additional > parameters - for those kernels to understand them - plus boot > menus with cursor navigation and maybe even graphics screens if > you feel like it). My main point is that I can have lilo always boot the same partition as default. And of course, that I can use it to boot Linux. > But I don't quite get how much of installation already happened on > your machine. Do you already have two FreeBSD systems on it? How Yes, I have. > did you get there? And if it's only one, how can you state that Easy ;) I already had FreeBSD 4.3-release installed on slice ad0s3. When I decided to try my "two-FreeBSDs-on-one-disk" scheme, I had FreeBSD-4.4-release on a CD. So I just installed that one. I had no problems what so ever in making sysinstall use ad0s4 to install on, even if ados3 was there. There is only one swap partition, but that's fine with me. > Do your normal installation (with the hiding mentioned above > between the two runs) and instruct the installer to *not* touch > the MBR. I take it LILO lives there or the standard (DOS?) MBR Lilo lives in the MBR, yes. > lives there and the Linux partition with LILO in it is the active > "partition". As soon as LILO has gotten control, you should be Actually, the first partition (Win2K) is the active one, but that doesn't matter. > FreeBSD's -STABLE or -CURRENT root fs (hda3 and hda4 in your Yes, I'm able to choose the one I would like to start. But, when the FreeBSD bootblock (boot0?) starts, it always loads the kernel from ad0s3, even when I boot from ad0s4. How do I know this? Easy, one kernel is 4.3-release, the other is 4.4-release. How do I *know* that I have 4.4 on ad0s4? Well, I press space to abort the loader, use 'set currdev=disk1s4a:' (or something like that), use 'unload', 'load kernel' and 'boot'. The only thing that remains is to automate this task, preferably in a way that don't require updating. > BTW: Many thanks to David Wolfskill whom I was discussing this > very topic with via PM back in April. I suggest you visit his > website for another description and many more BSD hints. I've already been there. ;-) Thanks for the hint. -- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 15:12: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dmlb.org (pc1-camb6-0-cust228.cam.cable.ntl.com [62.253.135.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AB637B416 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dmlb by dmlb.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1633lc-0005kO-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:11:56 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200111102300.fAAN0g767233@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:11:55 -0000 (GMT) From: Duncan Barclay To: Warner Losh Subject: RE: an and wi ad-hoc talking Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BTW, I think "association" is not defined for ad-hoc mode. From 802.11-1999a 3.4 association: The service used to establish access point/station (AP/STA) mapping and enable STA invo-cation of the distribution system services (DSSs). There is no AP in an ad-hoc network. D --- ________________________________________________________________________ Duncan Barclay | God smiles upon the little children, dmlb@dmlb.org | the alcoholics, and the permanently stoned. dmlb@freebsd.org| Steven King To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 15:32:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7200937B41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fABNWba29338; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:32:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fABNWa776237; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:32:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200111112332.fABNWa776237@harmony.village.org> To: Duncan Barclay Subject: Re: an and wi ad-hoc talking Cc: mobile@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:08:43 GMT." References: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:32:36 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Duncan Barclay writes: : Are the Orinoco's really doing a generic ad-hoc? Or is it a hacked : up thing? I don't know. How Can I check? : Can you obtain the BSS id's from the Orinocos (should be the same) and : the one from the Cisco card. If an ad-hoc node does not actually find : a BSS it can create a new one on its own. I didn't check. I can check, however. : Additionally look at the low level parameters such as DIFS, PIFS, beacon : interval etc. There may be a mismatch between these on the different : manufacturers cards. Hmmm, They should all be the same? : Are both WiFi certified to be interoperable in ad-hoc mode? : : 802.11 is an advisory standard and there is a lot of difference in : implementations... That I don't know. I do know they both work with the Airport access point I have, but that's not ad-hoc mode. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 15:55:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from lament.noc.uk.easynet.net (lament.noc.uk.easynet.net [212.74.1.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D8737B421 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by lament.noc.uk.easynet.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD25FA1; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:55:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:55:46 +0000 From: Ben Hughes To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MA301 PCI/PCMCIA on 4.x Message-ID: <20011111235546.A20012@uk.easynet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Morning all, A while ago, there was a wee thread on MA301's under FreeBSD-4 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=191860+194589+/usr/local/www/db/text/2001/freebsd-mobile/20010826.freebsd-mobile) Is it now at the stage where the MA301's work, with or without tweaking the wi code, it looks (from that thread, tho it's okay now, but im not rich enough to test), as im looking to buy one and get on the 802.11 boat.. cheers muchly den.. (: -- Ben Hughes, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 19:49:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from t-mta2.odn.ne.jp (mfep2.odn.ne.jp [143.90.131.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F370437B417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:49:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pop16.odn.ne.jp ([61.209.161.115]) by t-mta2.odn.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20011112034949592.JGJT.30022.t-mta2.odn.ne.jp@mta2.odn.ne.jp>; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:49:49 +0900 Message-ID: <3BEF1C33.ACDCABEA@pop16.odn.ne.jp> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:48:47 +0900 From: WATANABE Kiyoshi MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, Scott Lambert , Daniel O'Connor , Dinesh Nair Subject: RE: linmodem on freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 10:43:38 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: > It would be even nicer if it could be updated to use version 6.0 + of the > linmodem driver. I've seen a report on a linux web site that 6.0 works with > the modem in my Toshiba 2805-s201. I think I would be willing to give up > the clock cycles to run the linmodem to not have to carry this pcmcia card. > :-) I made ltmdm-rev0.6 which was adapted for ltmdmobj.o-ver6.00 about one month ago, but I had neglected updating my web page. I will update the page tonight or tomorrow morning. URL: http://www.geocities.com/wtnbkysh/ It is still supporting only Mars-based PCI LT Modem. If your modem is Apollo-based ISA/PCCARD LT Modem, you have to write probe/attach/detach function for ISA/PCCARD. Sorry I am not good at English. -- Kiyoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 19:59:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385CA37B416 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAC3vuS48587; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:27:56 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3BEF1C33.ACDCABEA@pop16.odn.ne.jp> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:27:55 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: WATANABE Kiyoshi Subject: RE: linmodem on freebsd Cc: Dinesh Nair , Scott Lambert , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-Nov-2001 WATANABE Kiyoshi wrote: > I made ltmdm-rev0.6 which was adapted for ltmdmobj.o-ver6.00 about one month > ago, > but I had neglected updating my web page. Wow cool! I will update my port tonight (hopefully) > It is still supporting only Mars-based PCI LT Modem. > If your modem is Apollo-based ISA/PCCARD LT Modem, you have to write > probe/attach/detach function for ISA/PCCARD. I have access to a PCCARD modem that describes itself as a LT modem, I will try and write a PCCARD attachment for it. > Sorry I am not good at English. Far from it. Thanks once again for writing this code. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 21:40:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BBD37B41B; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAC5e2a30036; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:40:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAC5e1778386; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:40:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200111120540.fAC5e1778386@harmony.village.org> To: mobile@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: MFC of latest pccard code Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:40:01 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just tried the latest -current pccard code on my CL-Pd6729, and it works great, even with the 3.3V card that I have, so I merged the latest kernel changes to -stable. o Fixes second socket of 6729 o Fixes hang on reboot on some cards o Expand working 3.3V card support from only 82365SL step DF to also include CL-PD6710, '22 and '29. o Lots of other stuff too. Pleae let me know if you have problems. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 11 23:10:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A0337B418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com (mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com [171.69.24.14]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id fAC78Bx18162 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitab.cisco.com (kitab.cisco.com [171.69.187.233]) by mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AAS93754; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from raj@localhost) by kitab.cisco.com (8.11.6/8.9.2) id fAC7AYO00412; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from raj) From: Richard Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15343.30181.937921.21800@kitab.cisco.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:10:29 -0800 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Question re. pcic driver X-Mailer: VM 6.97 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I was running 4.1.1 I could leave my pccard controller in "auto-selected" mode and it would my PCMCIA Aironet card just fine. Under 4.4 it doesn't find my card and it appears to be "auto-selecting" the controller as "cardbus" instead of PCMCIA. I'm wondering if there's a way to force it to use PCMCIA? Here's the output when I go into BIOS and force it to "pcic compatible". This work fine: Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #2: Tue Nov 6 10:50:53 PST 2001 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: raj@kitab.cisco.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/KITAB1 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: CPU: Pentium/P55C (quarter-micron) (233.29-MHz 586-class CPU) Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x581 Stepping = 1 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Features=0x8001bf Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: real memory = 67174400 (65600K bytes) Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di sio1 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di sio0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di ppc0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di sn0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di lnc0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di ie0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di fe0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di ed0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di cs0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di bt0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di ata1 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di aic0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di aha0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> di adv0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: config> q Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: avail memory = 60784640 (59360K bytes) Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0484000. Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc048409c. Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: md0: Malloc disk Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: Using $PIR table, 5 entries at 0xc00f8e80 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: apm0: on motherboard Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: npx0: on motherboard Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: pcib0: on motherboard Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: pci0: at 4.0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: chip1: port 0xffe0-0xffff irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0 Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: isa0: on motherboard Nov 11 13:06:46 kitab /kernel: orm0: