From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 7 13:44:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD7A37B405 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB0C43E58 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 13:44:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [217.82.38.36] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17RIth-0004xi-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Jul 2002 22:44:45 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 6C2891CF for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:44:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-linnb.lan (jan-linnb.lan [192.168.0.25]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 2CF316D for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 22:44:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... From: Jan Lentfer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 07 Jul 2002 22:43:10 +0200 Message-Id: <1026074590.2085.39.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, assuming Terry's patch will be integrated into bsd.port.mk soon, what will be the next steps to push this further? If I found a port and tested it and it works with ccc, what to do? Contact the port maintainer and ask him to add "PREFER_COMPAQ_CC=yes" to the Makefile? Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 7 14: 1:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0836E37B400 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB3243E42 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0606.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.194.96] helo=mindspring.com) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17RJA9-0003b8-00; Sun, 07 Jul 2002 17:01:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3D28AC0E.45B756B9@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 14:01:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... References: <1026074590.2085.39.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jan Lentfer wrote: > Hi all, > > assuming Terry's patch will be integrated into bsd.port.mk soon, what > will be the next steps to push this further? > If I found a port and tested it and it works with ccc, what to do? > Contact the port maintainer and ask him to add "PREFER_COMPAQ_CC=yes" to > the Makefile? Assuming it's committed, yes, this should be all that's necessary. Since it won't effect the port for non-Alpha, and won't effect it for Alpha, if the Compaq C compiler is not installed, this is the lowest possible impact method. Basically, your original call for a list becomes a call for adding the flag to individual ports. If you wanted to build everything, one at a time, to see what could be built, then all you'd have to do is set it in /etc/make.conf. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 7 14:10:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC8137B400 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB8543E31 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [217.82.38.36] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17RJIo-0001k2-00; Sun, 07 Jul 2002 23:10:42 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 6ECEC1CF; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:10:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-linnb.lan (jan-linnb.lan [192.168.0.25]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 34FB26D; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 23:10:37 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... From: Jan Lentfer To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3D28AC0E.45B756B9@mindspring.com> References: <1026074590.2085.39.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <3D28AC0E.45B756B9@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 07 Jul 2002 23:09:06 +0200 Message-Id: <1026076146.2275.59.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Am Son, 2002-07-07 um 23.01 schrieb Terry Lambert: > If you wanted to build everything, one at a time, to see what could > be built, then all you'd have to do is set it in /etc/make.conf. 8-). I think that will get you into deep trouble unless you do in on a machine which is only ment for testing. I tried to compile libogg and libvorbis with the ccc - at first it looked really good an did install flawless. But when I then tried install ports depending on one of the libs (can't remember exactly which) I got errors because of missing .so's. So, some real testing will be needed. So far I have build and checked four ports (wget, emboss, mmosaic, rxvt) and they seem to work well. But only emboss seems to be worth it, since it has some pretty FP intensive programs. What ports are most worth compiling with ccc? Floating point intesive one are top priority, I guess - which would that be? Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 7 14:49:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D225837B400 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8FF43E09 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:49:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0316.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.43.61] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17RJuI-0001g6-00; Sun, 07 Jul 2002 17:49:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3D28B73A.6F32272F@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 14:48:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... References: <1026074590.2085.39.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <3D28AC0E.45B756B9@mindspring.com> <1026076146.2275.59.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jan Lentfer wrote: > Am Son, 2002-07-07 um 23.01 schrieb Terry Lambert: > > If you wanted to build everything, one at a time, to see what could > > be built, then all you'd have to do is set it in /etc/make.conf. 8-). > > I think that will get you into deep trouble unless you do in on a > machine which is only ment for testing. I tried to compile libogg and > libvorbis with the ccc - at first it looked really good an did install > flawless. But when I then tried install ports depending on one of the > libs (can't remember exactly which) I got errors because of missing > .so's. So, some real testing will be needed. Yes, of course. Testing is what I meant by "to see what could be built". -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 7 15: 0:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8092D37B400 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vvl15.fh-konstanz.de (vvl15.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FAB43E09 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by vvl15.fh-konstanz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g67MC3R25074 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:12:03 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) X-Authentication-Warning: vvl15.fh-konstanz.de: nobody set sender to vahe@fh-konstanz.de using -f To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... Message-ID: <1026079921.3d28bcb19f1a3@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 00:12:01 +0200 (MEST) From: Vahe Khachikyan References: <1026074590.2085.39.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <3D28AC0E.45B756B9@mindspring.com> <1026076146.2275.59.camel@jan-linnb.lan> In-Reply-To: <1026076146.2275.59.camel@jan-linnb.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 217.235.135.126 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Jan Lentfer : > Am Son, 2002-07-07 um 23.01 schrieb Terry Lambert: > > > If you wanted to build everything, one at a time, to see what could > > be built, then all you'd have to do is set it in /etc/make.conf. > 8-). > > I think that will get you into deep trouble unless you do in on a > machine which is only ment for testing. I tried to compile libogg and > libvorbis with the ccc - at first it looked really good an did install > flawless. But when I then tried install ports depending on one of the > libs (can't remember exactly which) I got errors because of missing > .so's. So, some real testing will be needed. > This is another problem well known as libtool problem ! The libtool doesn't expect the ccc as a compiler which is able to produce shared libraries. Or it looks for some special flags to use with ccc to produce position independant code and there are no such flags cause either CCC produces such a code in any case or there is nothing special about it on Alpha architecture (not sure anymore what it was...) There was patch once uppon a time posted in this list which helped to solve the problem. However the way was a little bit tricky cause a lot of sources are packed with a version of libtool so to make the things working you should always replace the original libtool with the patched one ..... And even after that there were some problems, in my case I was playing with Apache-PHP, shared libraries produced were somehow broken. Once or twice I solved the problem and got the Apache-mod_ssl-PHP compiled with ccc working. But then some change in Apache source made it broken against ccc and I just have had no more time to investigate the problem. > So far I have build and checked four ports (wget, emboss, mmosaic, > rxvt) > and they seem to work well. But only emboss seems to be worth it, > since > it has some pretty FP intensive programs. What ports are most worth > compiling with ccc? Floating point intesive one are top priority, I > guess - which would that be? There is another advantage against gcc. Not only the increased speed in FP due to libcpml but also the optimisation in whole code. The optimisation of ccc works! Everytime after make world I rebuild the openssl manually with ccc, After that openssl and all other programs using libcrypto and libssl are working at least 30% faster !! -- Vahe --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 7 15: 3:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B68737B400 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vvl15.fh-konstanz.de (vvl15.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB0043E09 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:03:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by vvl15.fh-konstanz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g67MEbV25086 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 00:14:37 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) X-Authentication-Warning: vvl15.fh-konstanz.de: nobody set sender to vahe@fh-konstanz.de using -f To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is the -stable OK Message-ID: <1026080075.3d28bd4b387c7@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 00:14:35 +0200 (MEST) From: Vahe Khachikyan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 217.235.135.126 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi !, I just updated my stable source tree, going to build world . I took a look in mailing list archive and found a discussion about some natd problem in stable. As far I see the problem is solved and was been commited to -current. Was it also commited to stable tree? Are there any other known problems in stable ? I just wouldn't like to break my working DSL router at home :-) Thanks in advance -- Vahe --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 8 1:55:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A34F37B400 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 01:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD78343E58 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 01:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjm@satanii.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 979 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2002 08:56:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satanii.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 2002 08:56:53 -0000 Received: from satanii.enemy.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satanii.enemy.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g688tqvt088710 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:55:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cjm@satanii.enemy.org) Message-Id: <200207080855.g688tqvt088710@satanii.enemy.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: kernel trap on a AlphaServer 400 X-message-flag: This mail was sent through the ``Enemy.ORG Productions'' network Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 10:55:52 +0200 From: "Chris J. Mutter" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello list, i upgraded from 4.5-RELEASE-p2 to 4.6-RELEASE-p1 on my main shellbox. 4.5 ran without any troubles for weeks. and now i got a kernel trap after 4days uptime: --snip-- fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) a0 = 0xfffffe000177f17f a1 = 0x29 a2 = 0x1 pc = 0xfffffc0000372e9c ra = 0xfffffc0000368414 curproc = 0xfffffe000d87cc40 pid = 387, comm = sendmail panic: trap syncing disks... 10 done Uptime: 4d10h48m38s Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE-p1 #0: Tue Jul 2 12:00:48 CEST 2002 root@satanii.enemy.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/S2 AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") AlphaServer 400 4/60, 166MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV4 (21064) major=2 minor=0 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e --snip-- anything i could do against it? (i have no debugging options in the kernel). nothing changed on the hardware side. i had to upgrade because of the latest libc security changes (resolver bug). later, cjm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 8 8:36:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF93E37B400 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f147.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9990C43E42 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicholsmi@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:36:07 -0700 Received: from 216.231.11.130 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:36:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.231.11.130] From: "Mike Nichols" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Booting from da1e? Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:36:07 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2002 15:36:07.0597 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D8CA5D0:01C22695] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an AlphaStation 400 with two SCSI disks, dka0 (da0) and dka100 (da1) running 4.5-STABLE. The first disk, which is the one I boot from, is exhibiting signs of sickness (high-pitched whining isn't good, is it?), so I want to make the box boot from the second one. I read in the Alpha Hardware Notes that, "In order to be bootable the root partition (partition a) must be at offset 0 of the disk drive" (section 2.2). On the second disk, I have da1e, which is at offset 0, but it isn't "partition a". Can I boot from that? I tried copying the necessary stuff (/boot, /etc, /bin, etc.) over and doing "boot dka100" in SRM; that seemed to do what I want (SRM reported that it was indeed booting from dka100), but the root filesystem was still mounted from da0a (as reported by the kernel, "Mounting root from ufs:da0a"; I didn't change fstab to point to da1e, but AFAICT that shouldn't affect where the _kernel_ mounts root from). Is it possible to do what I want (have a system boot from da1e, which is at offset 0)? If not, can I rename da1e to da1a (which I should be able to boot from) without having to newfs it? Thanks in advance, Mike. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 8 8:51:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAA937B400 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABB643E3B for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:51:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g68FpjMa042774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:51:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g68FpjFJ003318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:51:46 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g68Fpjut003317; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:51:45 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 17:51:45 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Mike Nichols Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting from da1e? Message-ID: <20020708155144.GD94279@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 03:36:07PM +0000, Mike Nichols wrote: > I have an AlphaStation 400 with two SCSI disks, dka0 (da0) and > dka100 (da1) running 4.5-STABLE. The first disk, which is the one > I boot from, is exhibiting signs of sickness (high-pitched whining > isn't good, is it?), so I want to make the box boot from the second > one. I read in the Alpha Hardware Notes that, "In order to be > bootable the root partition (partition a) must be at offset 0 of the > disk drive" (section 2.2). On the second disk, I have da1e, which > is at offset 0, but it isn't "partition a". Can I boot from that? > > I tried copying the necessary stuff (/boot, /etc, /bin, etc.) over > and doing "boot dka100" in SRM; that seemed to do what I want (SRM > reported that it was indeed booting from dka100), but the root > filesystem was still mounted from da0a (as reported by the kernel, > "Mounting root from ufs:da0a"; I didn't change fstab to point to > da1e, but AFAICT that shouldn't affect where the _kernel_ mounts > root from). But it does. /boot/loader reads /etc/fstab and informs the kernel. > Is it possible to do what I want (have a system boot from da1e, > which is at offset 0)? If not, can I rename da1e to da1a (which > I should be able to boot from) without having to newfs it? If the kernel boots from that disk it seems to work. But you can always rename the partition using disklabel -e da1. Just replace the e: with an a:. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 8 18: 2:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68EA37B400 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA0C43E31 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:02:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no) Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (unverified) by mail.baerum.kommune.no (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 02:58:03 +0200 Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 10:06:15 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.5 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 10:06:08 +0200 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I know this is probably going to sound stupid, but hey, you only learn by asking... FreeBSD and Linux don't use the same ELF format, do they? I thought the Compaq compiler produced Linux/Alpha binaries, in which case you would need the Linux emulator to run them. =CCf that's the case, is there really a speed increase to be gained? And even if it is, do we really want the FreeBSD ports collection to prefer building Linux/Alpha binaries over native binaries on the Alpha? - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 8 18:32:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5965F37B406 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F093143E31 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0460.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.199.205] helo=mindspring.com) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17RjqW-0003CC-00; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:31:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3D2A3CBA.4156AD9F@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 18:30:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Idar Tollefsen wrote: > I know this is probably going to sound stupid, but hey, > you only learn by asking... > = > FreeBSD and Linux don't use the same ELF format, do they? Yes. > I thought the Compaq compiler produced Linux/Alpha binaries, > in which case you would need the Linux emulator to run them. No. It is the system call entry points, which are in libc, which dictate whether it's a Linux or a FreeBSD system it's talking to (and the manifest constants and structures in the header files which are filled out and/or passed as parameters to the system calls). > =CCf that's the case, is there really a speed increase to be > gained? And even if it is, do we really want the FreeBSD ports > collection to prefer building Linux/Alpha binaries over native > binaries on the Alpha? You seem to believe that the Linux compatability module is an emulator. It's not. It's an ABI. There are no performance penalties for running Linux binaries (other than those imposed by use of the Linux system interfaces by virtue of their design). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 0: 8:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7144937B40B for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D6A43E3B for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g69776oi096423 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g6975kUs096391; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:05:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... Message-ID: <20020709070546.GA96335@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 10:06:08AM +0200, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > FreeBSD and Linux don't use the same ELF format, do they? For the most part. > I thought the Compaq compiler produced Linux/Alpha binaries, Nope the Compaq compiler spits out AXP ASM code. I remove the Linux gas and GNU ld from the Compaq compiler installation and replace with a link to the FreeBSD native ones. Because there are no syscalls in any of the .a's & .o's included with the Compaq compiler, I can get away with doing this. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 6:53:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83AA37B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 06:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reg.seresc.net (regmail.seresc.net [199.92.100.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C8D43E31 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 06:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan@seresc.net) Received: from laptop ([209.80.192.11]) by reg.seresc.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g69DrnsK005597 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:53:50 -0400 From: "Bryan Dina" To: Subject: Subscribe Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:53:53 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would like to subscribe -Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 6:54: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C3C37B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 06:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reg.seresc.net (regmail.seresc.net [199.92.100.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6552943E4A for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 06:54:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan@seresc.net) Received: from laptop ([209.80.192.11]) by reg.seresc.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g69DrnsI005597 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:53:49 -0400 From: "Bryan Dina" To: Subject: add me to the list Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:53:52 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org add me to the list -Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 7:36:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E8B37B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A3E43E09 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:36:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3D9ZTCV4>; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:36:29 +0200 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA832@l04.research.kpn.com> From: K.J.Koster@kpn.com To: bryan@seresc.net Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: add me to the list Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:36:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Bryan, > > add me to the list > As the FreeBSD web pages will tell you, send a mail with "help" in the body to majordomo@freebsd.org. Kees Jan ===================================================== You can't have everything. Where would you put it? [Steven Wright] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 8:57:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F8837B405 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reg.seresc.net (regmail.seresc.net [199.92.100.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025A143E52 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:57:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan@seresc.net) Received: from laptop ([209.80.192.11]) by reg.seresc.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g69FvVlx018180 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:57:31 -0400 From: "Bryan Dina" To: Subject: subscribe freebsd-alpha Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-alpha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 9:23:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17DC37B401 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reg.seresc.net (regmail.seresc.net [199.92.100.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAD343E31 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan@seresc.net) Received: from laptop ([209.80.192.11]) by reg.seresc.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g69Fotlx017658 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:50:55 -0400 From: "Bryan Dina" To: Subject: subscribe freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:50:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 10:37: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2D337B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509E243E09 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no) Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (unverified) by mail.baerum.kommune.no (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:32:47 +0200 Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:09:05 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.5 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:08:49 +0200 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> FreeBSD and Linux don't use the same ELF format, do they? > Yes. OK. Thanks for clearing that up. >> =CCf that's the case, is there really a speed increase to be >> gained? And even if it is, do we really want the FreeBSD ports >> collection to prefer building Linux/Alpha binaries over native >> binaries on the Alpha? > You seem to believe that the Linux compatability module is an > emulator. It's not. It's an ABI. There are no performance > penalties for running Linux binaries (other than those imposed > by use of the Linux system interfaces by virtue of their design). Well, yes, I suppose I was under the impression that it was an emulator. Although I have seen references to the contrary before, this is the first time someone has actually explained the workings of it. Thank you. - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 12: 7:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26F037B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reg.seresc.net (regmail.seresc.net [199.92.100.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A630843E3B for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan@seresc.net) Received: from laptop ([209.80.192.11]) by reg.seresc.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g69J7Nlx004472 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:07:23 -0400 From: "Bryan Dina" To: Subject: Getting netscape to work on alpha Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:07:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have installed netscape-4.78 on FreeBSD 4.5, and when I reboot or restart the machine netscape dies. When I run the binary, I get a bunch or ASCII chars, and the machine beeps once. Once I rebuild netscape, it will work until I reboot or reinstall again. The box is a DEC AlphaStation 200 4/166 stock config. Any ideas? -Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 12:10:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D7F37B401 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182C843E3B for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 12:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [80.129.116.164] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17S0NG-0005lp-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 21:10:10 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 1FD6B2E1; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:10:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web.de (jan-winnb.lan [192.168.0.26]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 06AC6127; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3D2B34A6.3050203@web.de> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 21:08:22 +0200 From: Jan Lentfer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryan Dina Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting netscape to work on alpha References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bryan Dina schrieb: >I have installed netscape-4.78 on FreeBSD 4.5, and when I reboot or restart >the machine netscape dies. When I run the binary, I get a bunch or ASCII >chars, and the machine beeps once. Once I rebuild netscape, it will work >until I reboot or reinstall again. The box is a DEC AlphaStation 200 4/166 >stock config. Any ideas? > > Do you have OSF1 and LINUX modules loaded? Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 13:23:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8F437B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail14.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C96F43E09 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:23:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 7239 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2002 20:23:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail14.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 9 Jul 2002 20:23:36 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69KNYf10204 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:23:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 16:23:39 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: uac flags in the kernel Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, I have a couple of questions about the uac (unaligned access check) flags in the kernel. First, I think they should be a process-wide property, so we need to move them out of td_md.md_flags and into a p_md.md_flags or p_md.md_uac or some such. Secondly, why do the sysarch() syscalls get and set the uac of the parent process? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 13:44:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BAF37B400; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp03.web.de [217.72.192.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D79543E09; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [80.129.116.164] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17S1qG-0001Qj-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 22:44:13 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 8A82E2E1; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:44:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web.de (jan-winnb.lan [192.168.0.26]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id D29E1127; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:44:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3D2B4AB5.7000605@web.de> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 22:42:29 +0200 From: Jan Lentfer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha Subject: Can't build tree-puzzle because of radixsort Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I am trying to build a program called "tree-puzzle" (www.tree-puzzle.de, the source is there) which I really need for my work. But I can't compile it. I tried on x86 and on Alpha (both with gcc and ccc), but it aways fails with reference to "radixsort". Can anyone help me? I need this!!! Many thanks in advance, Jan Lentfer --------------------------------------------------- This is from x86 FreeBSD4.6-Release/gcc: bash-2.05#make Making all in src gcc -DPACKAGE=\"tree-puzzle\" -DVERSION=\"5.0\" -DHAVE_LIBM=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -I. -I. -g -O2 -c ml1.c && mv ml1.o sml1.o In file included from ml1.c:28: ml.h:176: conflicting types for `radixsort' /usr/include/stdlib.h:167: previous declaration of `radixsort' *** Error code 1 Stop in /root/builds/tree-puzzle-5.0/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /root/builds/tree-puzzle-5.0. bash-2.05# ---------- This is from Alpha FreeBSD-4.6RELEASE/ccc: bash-2.05a# make Making all in src ccc -DPACKAGE=\"tree-puzzle\" -DVERSION=\"5.0\" -DHAVE_LIBM=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -I. -I. -O4 -fast -arch ev56 -tune ev56 -c ml1.c && mv ml1.o sml1.o cc: Error: ml.h, line 176: In this declaration, the type of "radixsort" is not compatible with the type of a previous declaration of "radixsort" at line number 166 in file /usr/include/stdlib.h. (notcompat) void radixsort(cmatrix, ivector, int, int, int *); -----^ cc: Error: ml1.c, line 81: In this declaration, the type of "radixsort" is not compatible with the type of a previous declaration of "radixsort" at line number 166 in file /usr/include/stdlib.h. (notcompat) void radixsort(cmatrix seqchar, ivector ali, int maxspc, int maxsite, -----^ cc: Warning: ml1.c, line 199: In this statement, the referenced type of the pointer value "Seqchar" is "pointer to char", which is not compatible with "pointer to const unsigned char". (ptrmismatch) radixsort(Seqchar, ali, Maxspc, Maxsite, &Numptrn); ------------------^ cc: Warning: ml1.c, line 199: In this statement, "ali" of type "pointer to int", is being converted to "int". (cvtdiftypes) radixsort(Seqchar, ali, Maxspc, Maxsite, &Numptrn); ---------------------------^ cc: Warning: ml1.c, line 199: In this statement, "ali" has a larger data size than "int". Assignment can result in data loss. (maylosedata) radixsort(Seqchar, ali, Maxspc, Maxsite, &Numptrn); ---------------------------^ cc: Warning: ml1.c, line 199: In this statement, "Maxspc" of type "int", is being converted to "pointer to const unsigned char". (cvtdiftypes) radixsort(Seqchar, ali, Maxspc, Maxsite, &Numptrn); --------------------------------^ cc: Error: ml1.c, line 199: In this statement, "radixsort" expects 4 arguments, but 5 are supplied. (toomanyargs) radixsort(Seqchar, ali, Maxspc, Maxsite, &Numptrn); --------^ *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/builds/tree-puzzle-5.0/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/builds/tree-puzzle-5.0. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 14:42:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD75D37B401; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F0143E3B; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:42:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g69LgZMa063257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:42:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g69LgZFJ020213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:42:35 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g69LgZD3020212; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:42:35 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:42:35 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha Subject: Re: Can't build tree-puzzle because of radixsort Message-ID: <20020709214234.GI94279@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <3D2B4AB5.7000605@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D2B4AB5.7000605@web.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 10:42:29PM +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to build a program called "tree-puzzle" (www.tree-puzzle.de, > the source is there) which I really need for my work. But I can't > compile it. I tried on x86 and on Alpha (both with gcc and ccc), but it > aways fails with reference to "radixsort". Can anyone help me? I need > this!!! > > > Many thanks in advance, > > Jan Lentfer > > --------------------------------------------------- > > This is from x86 FreeBSD4.6-Release/gcc: > bash-2.05#make > Making all in src > gcc -DPACKAGE=\"tree-puzzle\" -DVERSION=\"5.0\" -DHAVE_LIBM=1 > -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -I. -I. -g -O2 -c ml1.c && mv > ml1.o sml1.o > In file included from ml1.c:28: > ml.h:176: conflicting types for `radixsort' > /usr/include/stdlib.h:167: previous declaration of `radixsort' > *** Error code 1 Your programm declared radixsort which name is already in use by the system. You should rename the usage in the programm. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 15:42:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794B137B400; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3365043E4A; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from fw.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086CA2A7D6; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by fw.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B444C27C; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98DB3808; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: uac flags in the kernel In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:42:21 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020709224221.E98DB3808@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > Ok, I have a couple of questions about the uac (unaligned access check) > flags in the kernel. First, I think they should be a process-wide > property, so we need to move them out of td_md.md_flags and into a > p_md.md_flags or p_md.md_uac or some such. Secondly, why do the > sysarch() syscalls get and set the uac of the parent process? uac works on the parent, because it would be a bit silly to work on itself since it is just about to exit. Actually, I'd like it to behave more like env(1)/ktrace etc. uac ... - operates on parent uac -p nnn ... - operates on process nnn uac ... /bin/sh - execs /bin/sh with specified uac settings. Secondly.. At least one arch (ia64) has part of this as application thread context. ie: ia64 apps can freely toggle alignment the AC bit on and off without making a sysarch() call. Note that the cpu may not allow AC=off to go unpunished so the kernel may have to do a fixup anyway. I thought you'd just love to know about that wrinkle. :-) It would be nice to have a uac that worked similarly across all platforms. I'd like to be able to turn it on and off for x86 as well. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 15:53:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FF037B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E59543E58 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:53:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0275.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.199.20] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17S3q1-0006c4-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 18:52:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3D2B68EA.7FE85FC7@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:51:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq-CC, the next steps.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Idar Tollefsen wrote: > >> FreeBSD and Linux don't use the same ELF format, do they? > > Yes. > = > OK. Thanks for clearing that up. As someone else pointed out, the compiler in question cranks out assembly language, so as long as the GNU assembler supports its output, it doesn't really care about ELF format. That's how the compiler port is working in this case, so it doesn't know from ELF. But I can, and do, use Linux binary ELF code from third party vendors in my FreeBSD kernel (such modules are, by their nature, not GPL'ed). As long as there are no external references to Linux-specific code (e.g. system call traps), it doesn't matter. One of the things people discussed recently was whether it was the compiler, or the Compaq math library itself, which was the cause of certain applications (e.g. the "Blade" encoder) going much faster. To test their theory, they linked FreeBSD programs against the Compaq provided math library, a binary in ELF format. > >> =CCf that's the case, is there really a speed increase to be > >> gained? And even if it is, do we really want the FreeBSD ports > >> collection to prefer building Linux/Alpha binaries over native > >> binaries on the Alpha? > = > > You seem to believe that the Linux compatability module is an > > emulator. It's not. It's an ABI. There are no performance > > penalties for running Linux binaries (other than those imposed > > by use of the Linux system interfaces by virtue of their design). > = > Well, yes, I suppose I was under the impression that it was > an emulator. Although I have seen references to the contrary > before, this is the first time someone has actually explained > the workings of it. Thank you. No problem. A lot of people make this mistake, because FreeBSD, very early on, made the mistake of calling it an "emulator", when it wasn't an emulator (I guess "Linuxulator" was just too "cute" to pass up). It turns out that for certain applications, Linux binaries actually ran faster on FreeBSD than they did on Linux, for a long time. I haven't seen recent Linux compared with recent FreeBSD, though. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 22:41: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7FF37B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6427343E3B for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:40:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [80.129.117.113] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17SADf-0003cE-00; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:40:55 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 159A337C; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:40:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web.de (jan-winnb.lan [192.168.0.26]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 762BE93; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:40:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3D2BC881.7020603@web.de> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:39:13 +0200 From: Jan Lentfer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ticso@cicely.de, freebsd-alpha Subject: Re: Can't build tree-puzzle because of radixsort References: <3D2B4AB5.7000605@web.de> <20020709214234.GI94279@cicely5.cicely.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter schrieb: >Your programm declared radixsort which name is already in use >by the system. >You should rename the usage in the programm. > > > Thanks a lot, that did it. Is "radixsort" something unique to FreeBSD? I build the program on Linux and IRIX 6.5 without any problems. Regards, Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 9 22:45:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00B837B400 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E56E43E31 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 22:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6A5jFMa072541 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:45:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g6A5jEFJ022997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:45:15 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g6A5jDxl022996; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:45:14 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:45:13 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Jan Lentfer Cc: ticso@cicely.de, freebsd-alpha Subject: Re: Can't build tree-puzzle because of radixsort Message-ID: <20020710054512.GP94279@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <3D2B4AB5.7000605@web.de> <20020709214234.GI94279@cicely5.cicely.de> <3D2BC881.7020603@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D2BC881.7020603@web.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 07:39:13AM +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Bernd Walter schrieb: > > >Your programm declared radixsort which name is already in use > >by the system. > >You should rename the usage in the programm. > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, that did it. Is "radixsort" something unique to FreeBSD? I > build the program on Linux and IRIX 6.5 without any problems. It's also on NetBSD and possibly on other systems too. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 1:38: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195AE37B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp03.web.de [217.72.192.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3682543E4A for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [80.129.117.113] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17SCz5-00066d-00 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:38:04 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id F1EC13F5 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from web.de (jan-winnb.lan [192.168.0.26]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 31DF573 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:37:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3D2BF204.1080100@web.de> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:36:20 +0200 From: Jan Lentfer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; de-AT; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha Subject: xdm and kdm core dump Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I am trying to set up a graphical login on my PWS 500a. I've tried xdm, kdm/kde2 (both core dump if called from ttys AND command line). Gdm seems to work. Gdm2 only works if started from command line, acts very strange when started from ttys. Am I missing something? I Always thought that usually xdm is the one with the highest chance to work. Are the others I could try? But actually I really would like to have kdm working. I can't remember to have these problems when setting up X on a x86 machine, so I guess this is Alpha-specific? Regards, Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 1:47:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E8537B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vvl15.fh-konstanz.de (vvl15.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E36543E65 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by vvl15.fh-konstanz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g6A8x1329585 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:59:01 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) X-Authentication-Warning: vvl15.fh-konstanz.de: nobody set sender to vahe@fh-konstanz.de using -f To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting netscape to work on alpha Message-ID: <1026291538.3d2bf7525e737@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:58:58 +0200 (MEST) From: Vahe Khachikyan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 194.138.37.41 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You should set osf1_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf Description: Each time you install the software it loads the OSF compatibility module automatically. It is ok untill you reboot the system. After reboot the OSF module will not be loaded automatically during the startup, if the flag above isn't set in /etc/rc.conf Loader tries to load the Netscape binary and there is no corresponding kernel module which is responsible for OSF1 binaries. Loader falls back to it's default /bin/sh, and tries to execute the netscape binary as a shell script. That's it you get the strange ASCII output :-) BTW: I don't think that linux module is required for netscape. -- Vahe --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Lentfer" To: "Bryan Dina" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Getting netscape to work on alpha > Bryan Dina schrieb: > > >I have installed netscape-4.78 on FreeBSD 4.5, and when I reboot or restart > >the machine netscape dies. When I run the binary, I get a bunch or ASCII > >chars, and the machine beeps once. Once I rebuild netscape, it will work > >until I reboot or reinstall again. The box is a DEC AlphaStation 200 4/166 > >stock config. Any ideas? > > > > > Do you have OSF1 and LINUX modules loaded? > > Jan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 3: 5:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2842537B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADFE43E5E for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:05:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6AA5EMa074640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:05:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g6AA5FFJ024288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:05:16 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g6AA5FLd024287; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:05:15 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:05:15 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Vahe Khachikyan Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting netscape to work on alpha Message-ID: <20020710100514.GT94279@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <1026291538.3d2bf7525e737@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1026291538.3d2bf7525e737@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:58:58AM +0200, Vahe Khachikyan wrote: > > You should set > osf1_enable="YES" > in your /etc/rc.conf > > Description: > Each time you install the software it loads the OSF compatibility module > automatically. > It is ok untill you reboot the system. > After reboot the OSF module will not be loaded automatically during the > startup, if the flag above isn't set in /etc/rc.conf > Loader tries to load the Netscape binary and there is no corresponding > kernel module which is responsible for OSF1 binaries. > Loader falls back to it's default /bin/sh, and tries to execute the > netscape binary as a shell script. > That's it you get the strange ASCII output :-) > > BTW: I don't think that linux module is required for netscape. It is required by the osf module. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 6:56:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2742837B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD8443E54 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10318; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g6ADtlY39515; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:55:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15660.15587.794229.723384@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:55:47 -0400 (EDT) To: ticso@cicely.de Cc: Vahe Khachikyan , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting netscape to work on alpha In-Reply-To: <20020710100514.GT94279@cicely5.cicely.de> References: <1026291538.3d2bf7525e737@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> <20020710100514.GT94279@cicely5.cicely.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter writes: > > BTW: I don't think that linux module is required for netscape. > > It is required by the osf module. No, that's exactly backwards. The osf.ko module is required by the linux.ko module. osf.ko can be used by itself. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 6:59:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD79F37B400; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA6943E09; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10425; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g6ADxDT39518; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:59:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15660.15793.332512.618094@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:59:13 -0400 (EDT) To: Peter Wemm Cc: John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: uac flags in the kernel In-Reply-To: <20020709224221.E98DB3808@overcee.wemm.org> References: <20020709224221.E98DB3808@overcee.wemm.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm writes: > John Baldwin wrote: > > Ok, I have a couple of questions about the uac (unaligned access check) > > flags in the kernel. First, I think they should be a process-wide > > property, so we need to move them out of td_md.md_flags and into a > > p_md.md_flags or p_md.md_uac or some such. Secondly, why do the > > sysarch() syscalls get and set the uac of the parent process? > > uac works on the parent, because it would be a bit silly to work on > itself since it is just about to exit. > > Actually, I'd like it to behave more like env(1)/ktrace etc. > > uac ... - operates on parent > uac -p nnn ... - operates on process nnn > uac ... /bin/sh - execs /bin/sh with specified uac settings. All this sounds fine, except for the -p flag, which currently disables printing of unaligned access errors. FWIW, the uac flags were named so as to be compatable with the Tru64 uac routine for users migrating from Tru64. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 7: 3: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A32337B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D427243E31 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10608; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g6AE2XX39529; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:02:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15660.15992.992752.254928@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:02:32 -0400 (EDT) To: "Chris J. Mutter" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel trap on a AlphaServer 400 In-Reply-To: <200207080855.g688tqvt088710@satanii.enemy.org> References: <200207080855.g688tqvt088710@satanii.enemy.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris J. Mutter writes: > Hello list, > > i upgraded from 4.5-RELEASE-p2 to 4.6-RELEASE-p1 on my main > shellbox. 4.5 ran without any troubles for weeks. and now i got a > kernel trap after 4days uptime: > > --snip-- > fatal kernel trap: > > trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) > a0 = 0xfffffe000177f17f > a1 = 0x29 > a2 = 0x1 > pc = 0xfffffc0000372e9c > ra = 0xfffffc0000368414 > curproc = 0xfffffe000d87cc40 > pid = 387, comm = sendmail > > panic: trap > > syncing disks... 10 > done > Uptime: 4d10h48m38s > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort > Rebooting... > Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE-p1 #0: Tue Jul 2 12:00:48 CEST 2002 > root@satanii.enemy.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/S2 > AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") > AlphaServer 400 4/60, 166MHz > 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. > CPU: EV4 (21064) major=2 minor=0 > OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e > --snip-- > > anything i could do against it? (i have no debugging options in the > kernel). nothing changed on the hardware side. i had to upgrade because > of the latest libc security changes (resolver bug). For a full stack trace, add ddb to your kernel (see i386/conf/LINT). For a stack trace with gdb after the crash, you can enable crashdumps. At the very least, run configure with -g, and build a kernel with symbols. The run gdb on that kernel and do list *faulting_address. Eg, list *0xfffffc0000372e9c Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 7: 5:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8CD37B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D4043E3B for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:05:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10674; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g6AE4sv39532; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:04:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15660.16134.903658.104250@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:04:54 -0400 (EDT) To: Vahe Khachikyan Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the -stable OK In-Reply-To: <1026080075.3d28bd4b387c7@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> References: <1026080075.3d28bd4b387c7@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vahe Khachikyan writes: > Hi !, > I just updated my stable source tree, going to build world . > I took a look in mailing list archive and found a discussion about some natd > problem in stable. > As far I see the problem is solved and was been commited to -current. > Was it also commited to stable tree? Yes, in time for 4.6-RELEASE. > Are there any other known problems in stable ? None that aren't alpha-specific. The integration of a newer version of ssh caused some hiccups last week on x86 as well. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 7: 9:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD7437B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780C643E42 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10777; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g6AE8r939545; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:08:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15660.16373.936832.188568@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:08:53 -0400 (EDT) To: Vahe Khachikyan Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the -stable OK In-Reply-To: <15660.16134.903658.104250@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <1026080075.3d28bd4b387c7@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> <15660.16134.903658.104250@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin writes: > > Vahe Khachikyan writes: > > Hi !, > > I just updated my stable source tree, going to build world . > > I took a look in mailing list archive and found a discussion about some natd > > problem in stable. > > As far I see the problem is solved and was been commited to -current. > > Was it also commited to stable tree? > > Yes, in time for 4.6-RELEASE. > > > Are there any other known problems in stable ? > > None that aren't alpha-specific. The integration of a newer version Opps. s/aren't/are/ Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 8:22:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248B537B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qescan1.qgraph.com (QESCAN1.qgraph.com [206.158.124.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D7FF43E58 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com) Received: from 192.168.200.28 by qescan1.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:21:58 -0500 Received: by sxsmtp1.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:21:57 -0500 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E26F0@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Jan Lentfer' , freebsd-alpha Subject: Slightly OT, WAS: RE: xdm and kdm core dump Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:21:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I have been getting messages when kdm starts up, here they are: > Jul 10 02:49:12 diabloii kdm[24204]: Can't lock pid file /var/run/kdm.pid, another xdm is running (pid 146) > Jul 10 02:49:12 diabloii init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > Jul 10 02:49:42 diabloii kdm_config[24206]: Unknown command line option 'ttyv8' I don't know if this is related to Mr. Lentfer's problems or not. KDM and XDM seem to work fine on my PWS 500au, but I get these messages when KDM starts. Has anyone seen these before? AJ Schroeder -----Original Message----- From: Jan Lentfer [mailto:Jan.Lentfer@web.de] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 3:36 AM To: freebsd-alpha Subject: xdm and kdm core dump Hi all, I am trying to set up a graphical login on my PWS 500a. I've tried xdm, kdm/kde2 (both core dump if called from ttys AND command line). Gdm seems to work. Gdm2 only works if started from command line, acts very strange when started from ttys. Am I missing something? I Always thought that usually xdm is the one with the highest chance to work. Are the others I could try? But actually I really would like to have kdm working. I can't remember to have these problems when setting up X on a x86 machine, so I guess this is Alpha-specific? Regards, Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 10:14:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D45A37B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69D43E58 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [80.129.117.113] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17SL2o-0000yX-00; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:14:26 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 0BBDD3F9; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:14:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-alpha.lan (jan-alpha.lan [192.168.0.29]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 8D9A193; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:14:21 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: List of ports that can be compiled with compaq-cc From: Jan Lentfer To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <3D21F1C8.2010708@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7 Date: 10 Jul 2002 19:14:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1026321255.24524.3.camel@jan-alpha.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 01:20, Christian Weisgerber wrote: [..] > I have previously built the Ogg Vorbis collection (libao, libogg, > libvorbis, vorbis-tools) with ccc, and this gave substantial speed > gains for encoding audio tracks. I forgot the numbers, but basically > my PC164-500 went from quite a bit worse than real time to quite a > bit better than real time. [...] How did you do that? When I try to build libogg with ccc it doesn' build the shared libraries.... and the configure script says so.. checking for ccc option to produce PIC... none checking if ccc static flag works... yes checking if ccc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if ccc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd4.6 ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... no checking whether to build shared libraries... no checking whether to build static libraries... yes creating libtool Regards, Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 10:47:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D1737B400 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A200143E4A for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:47:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6AHknoi023204; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:46:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g6AHklMR023203; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:46:47 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the -stable OK Message-ID: <20020710174647.GA12733@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1026080075.3d28bd4b387c7@vvl15.fh-konstanz.de> <15660.16134.903658.104250@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15660.16134.903658.104250@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Speaking of -STABLE, I plan to MFC Binutils 2.12.1 next month. That means RELENG_4's rtld needs to be updated to handle the new relocations used. Can anyone take a stable at doing that? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 12:58: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE6137B40A for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.ksc.th.com (mail3.ksc.th.com [203.155.0.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B68343E09 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:57:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from easytoberich01@yahoo.com) Received: from ksc.th.com ([203.156.15.36]) by mail3.ksc.th.com (8.12.1/8.12.0) with SMTP id g6AJjxHW022592 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:57:44 +0700 Message-Id: <200207101957.g6AJjxHW022592@mail3.ksc.th.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:59:50 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org From: easytoberich01@yahoo.com (international e-business) Subject: สำหรับผู้ที่ต้องการโอกาสในการเปลี่ยนแปลงชีวิต Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org !!!!! Part-Time Job!! สำหรับนักเรียน นักศึกษา และผู้ทำงานประจำ คุณต้องการงานแบบนี้บ้างไหม…?? -งาน parttime ทำงานที่บ้านได้ ถ้าคุณใช้ Internet เป็น -ทำงานเพียงวันละ 2-3 ชม. -รายได้ 5,000 – 15,000 บาท ถ้าคุณเป็นคนหนึ่งที่ทำงานประจำหรือยังไม่มีงานทำ นักศึกษาที่กำลังศึกษาอยู่ ผู้ว่างงาน หรือผู้ที่ยังพอมีเวลาว่างจากงานประจำ มีคุณสมบัติเบื้องต้นดังนี้ 1. มีทัศนคติที่ดี 2. พร้อมที่จะเรียนรู้ เนื่องจากเป็นระบบใหม่จึงต้องให้มีการอบรมให้ตามความเหมาะสม 3. ต้องการที่จะทำงานอย่างจริงจัง อยากที่จะเปลี่ยนฐานะทางการเงินของตนเอง และอยากมีรายได้จากการทำงานตรงนี้จริงๆ ทุกอย่างเป็นไปได้ ใน http://www.geocities.com/getchances2000/ อย่า !…………….. เป็นแค่เพียงคนที่นั่งรอโอกาส To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jul 10 17:24:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6998537B400; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8B943E64; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from fw.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041442A7D6; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by fw.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0404C211; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B943915; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: uac flags in the kernel In-Reply-To: <15660.15793.332512.618094@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:24:45 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020711002445.21B943915@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Peter Wemm writes: > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > Ok, I have a couple of questions about the uac (unaligned access check) > > > flags in the kernel. First, I think they should be a process-wide > > > property, so we need to move them out of td_md.md_flags and into a > > > p_md.md_flags or p_md.md_uac or some such. Secondly, why do the > > > sysarch() syscalls get and set the uac of the parent process? > > > > uac works on the parent, because it would be a bit silly to work on > > itself since it is just about to exit. > > > > Actually, I'd like it to behave more like env(1)/ktrace etc. > > > > uac ... - operates on parent > > uac -p nnn ... - operates on process nnn > > uac ... /bin/sh - execs /bin/sh with specified uac settings. > > All this sounds fine, except for the -p flag, which currently disables > printing of unaligned access errors. Heh, well, that would be a slight technical problem. :-) (I wanted to use real examples, but beast.freebsd.org was down) > FWIW, the uac flags were named so as to be compatable with the Tru64 > uac routine for users migrating from Tru64. Indeed. No need to be incompatable. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jul 11 7: 4:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251F537B400 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (vic-dial-196-31-177-29.mweb.co.za [196.31.177.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A51F43E4A for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikedube64@hotmail.com) From: "MIKENA DDUBELA" To: Subject: IN NEED OF HELP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:47:37 +0200 Reply-To: "MIKENA DDUBELA" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020711140336.7A51F43E4A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FAX: 27-731485293. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jul 11 15:25:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F8A37B417 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EE343E5E for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [217.225.199.20] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17SmNV-0003i4-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:25:37 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id A74B5359 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:25:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-linnb.lan (jan-linnb.lan [192.168.0.25]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 2679C1D5 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:25:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: set boot device permanantly in SRM From: Jan Lentfer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 12 Jul 2002 00:23:53 +0200 Message-Id: <1026426233.2125.4.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I know I saw a web page, where it is explained how to set automatic boot in SRM, but I just can't find it anymore. Can someone please tell me? I doesn't happen often, but from time to time I actually shut down my Alpha ;-) Thanks in advance, Jan PS: my boot device is DKAO To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jul 11 15:30:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D4237B400 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D829E43E9B for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: from malkavian.org (rbw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by malkavian.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6BMUc2F007771; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:30:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g6BMUcwh007770; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:30:38 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: malkavian.org: rbw set sender to rbw@myplace.org using -f Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:30:38 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: set boot device permanantly in SRM Message-ID: <20020711223038.GA64406@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: Jan Lentfer , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1026426233.2125.4.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1026426233.2125.4.camel@jan-linnb.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org run the following command at the SRM prompt: set bootdef_dev dka0 see also: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7-Manual/alpha-install-guide/s1-alpha-srm.html http://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/howto/SRM-HOWTO -brian On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 12:23:53AM +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Hi all, > > I know I saw a web page, where it is explained how to set automatic boot > in SRM, but I just can't find it anymore. Can someone please tell me? I > doesn't happen often, but from time to time I actually shut down my > Alpha ;-) > > Thanks in advance, > > Jan > > PS: my boot device is DKAO > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== bjp aka rbw | and did you exchange a walk on part in the war rbw@myplace.org | for a lead role in a cage? ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jul 11 15:32:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28F737B400 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C980443E54 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6BMWRMa098662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:32:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g6BMWTFJ095601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:32:29 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g6BMWS8H095600; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:32:28 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:32:28 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: set boot device permanantly in SRM Message-ID: <20020711223227.GE63545@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <1026426233.2125.4.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1026426233.2125.4.camel@jan-linnb.lan> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 12:23:53AM +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Hi all, > > I know I saw a web page, where it is explained how to set automatic boot > in SRM, but I just can't find it anymore. Can someone please tell me? I > doesn't happen often, but from time to time I actually shut down my > Alpha ;-) > > Thanks in advance, > > Jan > > PS: my boot device is DKAO set bootdef_dev dka0 Maybe you also want: set auto_action boot -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jul 11 15:40:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F1B37B401 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419C143E52 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [217.225.199.20] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17SmbZ-0004L2-00; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:40:09 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 61808404; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:40:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-linnb.lan (jan-linnb.lan [192.168.0.25]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 0E0B51D5; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:40:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: set boot device permanantly in SRM From: Jan Lentfer To: ticso@cicely.de Cc: Jan Lentfer , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020711223227.GE63545@cicely5.cicely.de> References: <1026426233.2125.4.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <20020711223227.GE63545@cicely5.cicely.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 12 Jul 2002 00:38:20 +0200 Message-Id: <1026427101.2125.9.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Am Fre, 2002-07-12 um 00.32 schrieb Bernd Walter: > set bootdef_dev dka0 > > Maybe you also want: > set auto_action boot Brian, Bernd, Many thanks for the quick answers (this really is one of the most helpfull lists I have ever been on). Is there a possibility to set a "wait time" before boot? Like if no one hits a key for 5 seconds, then auto-boot? Thanks, Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jul 11 15:55:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD437B400 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F344B43E31 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: from malkavian.org (rbw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by malkavian.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6BMti2F008419; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:55:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g6BMtiW8008418; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:55:44 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: malkavian.org: rbw set sender to rbw@myplace.org using -f Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:55:44 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: set boot device permanantly in SRM Message-ID: <20020711225543.GA8059@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: Jan Lentfer , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1026426233.2125.4.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <20020711223227.GE63545@cicely5.cicely.de> <1026427101.2125.9.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1026427101.2125.9.camel@jan-linnb.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i'm not aware of any delay-before-boot setting, but the boot can be effectively stopped by hitting ^C during the early stages of the boot process, thus dropping you back to the SRM console. another document for you: http://www.support.compaq.com/alpha-tools/documentation/archive/sdk/ec-qk8df-te_srm_cons_mb_users_gde.pdf this PDF lists all the SRM commands and environment variables. -brian On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 12:38:20AM +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Am Fre, 2002-07-12 um 00.32 schrieb Bernd Walter: > > > set bootdef_dev dka0 > > > > Maybe you also want: > > set auto_action boot > > Brian, Bernd, > > Many thanks for the quick answers (this really is one of the most > helpfull lists I have ever been on). Is there a possibility to set a > "wait time" before boot? Like if no one hits a key for 5 seconds, then > auto-boot? > > Thanks, > > Jan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== bjp aka rbw | and did you exchange a walk on part in the war rbw@myplace.org | for a lead role in a cage? ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jul 12 6:21:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377C337B401 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qescan2.qgraph.com (QESCAN2.qgraph.com [206.158.124.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B0B243E4A for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com) Received: from 192.168.200.30 by qescan2.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:21:29 -0500 Received: by sxsmtp3.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3VPB75PZ>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:21:29 -0500 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E2735@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: XFree86 build error... Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:21:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I tried to do a 'portupgrade -ra' on my system, and the newest XFree86 from /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server (Ver. 4.2.0_3) did not build properly. I do have version 4.1.0_12,1 installed. Anyway, I thought I would just go into that directory manually and do a 'make', that's when I got this: -D__filemansuffix__=5 -D__miscmansuffix__=7 -D__drivermansuffix__=4 -D__projectroot__=/usr/X11R6 -D__xorgversion__='"Release 6.6" "X Version 11"' -D__vendorversion__="Version `echo 4 2 0 | sed 's/ /./g'` XFree86" pswrap._man rm -f pswrap.1.html pswrap.1-html ../../config/util/rman -f HTML < pswrap._man > pswrap.1-html && mv -f pswrap.1-html pswrap.1.html macro "na" not recognized -- ignoring macro "nh" not recognized -- ignoring ===> Installing for imake-4.2.0_1 ===> imake-4.2.0_1 is already installed - perhaps an older version? If so, you may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of imake-4.2.0_1 without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/imake-4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Now, my feeble BSD troubleshooting skills tell me that I need to re-install imake-4. On the other hand, if XFree86-4 requires imake-4, and it is already there, shouldn't it just see that it's there and proceed? Please clue me in on this because I do not want to hose up my system doing something silly. Also, I do have a Matrox card, and there is a disclaimer about Matrox drivers not fully tested. Maybe that is my problem, if so, does someone know how to possibly exclude a package from a portupgrade command? TIA, AJ Schroeder To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jul 12 10:28:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30B737B400 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1418E43E31 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:28:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [80.129.111.35] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17T4DO-0003Te-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:28:22 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id E1FBA304 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:28:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-alpha.lan (jan-alpha.lan [192.168.0.29]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 5C65E1D1 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:28:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Alpha optimized Fortran Compiler From: Jan Lentfer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7 Date: 12 Jul 2002 19:28:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1026494890.88979.7.camel@jan-alpha.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, is there an (freely available) Alpha-optimized Fortran compiler for FreeBSD? Thanks, Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jul 12 13:24:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1596C37B400 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qescan2.qgraph.com (QESCAN2.qgraph.com [206.158.124.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52FFB43E4A for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com) Received: from 192.168.200.30 by qescan2.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:24:52 -0500 Received: by sxsmtp3.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3VPB8FMV>; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:24:52 -0500 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E274D@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: "Schroeder, Aaron" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: UPDATE: RE: XFree86 build error... Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:24:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here is another error that may be of some troubleshooting use: install.man in config/pswrap done ===> Generating temporary packing list mkhtmlindex:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 now, I searched for mkhtmlindex and it is located in /usr/X11R6/bin. Not surprisingly, I am completely stumped. Again, any help on this would be much appreciated. AJ Schroeder -----Original Message----- From: Schroeder, Aaron Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:21 AM To: 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' Subject: XFree86 build error... Hello all, I tried to do a 'portupgrade -ra' on my system, and the newest XFree86 from /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server (Ver. 4.2.0_3) did not build properly. I do have version 4.1.0_12,1 installed. Anyway, I thought I would just go into that directory manually and do a 'make', that's when I got this: -D__filemansuffix__=5 -D__miscmansuffix__=7 -D__drivermansuffix__=4 -D__projectroot__=/usr/X11R6 -D__xorgversion__='"Release 6.6" "X Version 11"' -D__vendorversion__="Version `echo 4 2 0 | sed 's/ /./g'` XFree86" pswrap._man rm -f pswrap.1.html pswrap.1-html ../../config/util/rman -f HTML < pswrap._man > pswrap.1-html && mv -f pswrap.1-html pswrap.1.html macro "na" not recognized -- ignoring macro "nh" not recognized -- ignoring ===> Installing for imake-4.2.0_1 ===> imake-4.2.0_1 is already installed - perhaps an older version? If so, you may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of imake-4.2.0_1 without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/imake-4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Now, my feeble BSD troubleshooting skills tell me that I need to re-install imake-4. On the other hand, if XFree86-4 requires imake-4, and it is already there, shouldn't it just see that it's there and proceed? Please clue me in on this because I do not want to hose up my system doing something silly. Also, I do have a Matrox card, and there is a disclaimer about Matrox drivers not fully tested. Maybe that is my problem, if so, does someone know how to possibly exclude a package from a portupgrade command? TIA, AJ Schroeder To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jul 12 13:29: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BBF37B400 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6895A43E65 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjm@satanii.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 317 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2002 20:29:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satanii.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 12 Jul 2002 20:29:55 -0000 Received: from satanii.enemy.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satanii.enemy.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6CKT2vt007165 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:29:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cjm@satanii.enemy.org) Message-Id: <200207122029.g6CKT2vt007165@satanii.enemy.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha optimized Fortran Compiler In-reply-to: Jan.Lentfer's message of 12 Jul 2002 19:28:09 +0200. <1026494890.88979.7.camel@jan-alpha.lan> X-Sig1: This Message is MIME-less... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:29:02 +0200 From: "Chris J. Mutter" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi jan, > is there an (freely available) Alpha-optimized Fortran compiler for > FreeBSD? there seems to be software for linux/alpha on ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/fortran/linux but didnt try it out. there is also a C++ compiler available for download on the same ftp-server in /pub/products/C-CXX/linux it would be find if we could have all 3 in a metaport iv C++ and fortran work under f/bsd. i personally dont use much fortran but a lot of ports use c++ (i.e. the openjade project ... for building docs/handbook). later, cjm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jul 13 1:22:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACEC37B400 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C68343E64 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [217.225.201.211] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17THrB-0004ZP-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:02:21 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 4D3611D5 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:02:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-alpha.lan (jan-alpha.lan [192.168.0.29]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with SMTP id 84FAB6F for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:02:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:02:07 +0200 From: Jan Lentfer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha optimized Fortran Compiler Message-Id: <20020713100207.696c2eae.Jan.Lentfer@web.de> In-Reply-To: <200207122029.g6CKT2vt007165@satanii.enemy.org> References: <1026494890.88979.7.camel@jan-alpha.lan> <200207122029.g6CKT2vt007165@satanii.enemy.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; alpha-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:29:02 +0200 "Chris J. Mutter" wrote: > hi jan, > > > is there an (freely available) Alpha-optimized Fortran compiler for > > FreeBSD? > > there seems to be software for linux/alpha on > ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/fortran/linux > but didnt try it out. > > there is also a C++ compiler available for download > on the same ftp-server in /pub/products/C-CXX/linux > > it would be find if we could have all 3 in a metaport > iv C++ and fortran work under f/bsd. i personally dont > use much fortran but a lot of ports use c++ (i.e. the > openjade project ... for building docs/handbook). > > later, > cjm That would be really great. I want to use biology/tinker (Protein Modelling Software), which is written in Fortran. Who did the Compaq-CC port? I have no idea how to install/test the Fortran and C++ RPM in FreeBSD. Anyone? Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jul 13 3:50:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE1B37B400 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 03:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.JP [133.9.152.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4C443E42 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 03:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6DAoRU04401; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:50:28 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200207131050.g6DAoRU04401@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha optimized Fortran Compiler In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:02:07 +0200." <20020713100207.696c2eae.Jan.Lentfer@web.de> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:50:27 +0900 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I compile many sources for floating point numbers computation by Compaq's ccc/cxx/fort77. When I compile these sources, I usually invoke /compat/linux/bin/tcsh and create complete Linux-native binaries. Some drawbacks are there is not such utilities in /compat/linux/usr/bin as more, vi, file etc. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jul 13 5:19:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C1337B401; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 05:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F35343E58; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 05:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from idnopheq@comcast.net) Received: from roshomon (pcp01167952pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net [68.62.17.63]) by mtaout05.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 13 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GZ600J38SVNLS@mtaout05.icomcast.net>; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:18:15 -0400 From: "Coffin, Dexter" Subject: Alpha/FreeBSD linux-mozilla 0.99 Installation and Execution Instructions To: alpha Cc: trevor@FreeBSD.org, mozilla Message-id: <1026562697.92449.2349.camel@roshomon.idnopheq.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, All! The following is a placative panacea, or placebo, for me until native Mozilla for Alpha/FreeBSD (non-CURRENT) can build and run. I got Mozilla for Alpha/Linux running on my box (164LX w/ 4.6-PR). I do not know if anyone else tried recently. Installing it from Ports failed for me (before it went FORBIDDEN). RPMFind failed to find anything recent. Google likewise. I noticed the standard linux-mozilla port uses xpi files. This method does not. I do not know if the port maintainer, Trevor (CC-ed), agrees with my methodology, but hey ... just throwing it out there. I installed linux_base-7 all ready. So, I went out and nabbed the RedHat 7.2 ISOs from HP/Compaq (http://www.support.compaq.com/alpha-tools/redhat) on a whim and burned them to CD. I found the RPMs needed on disks one and two. They are: MD5 (gtk+-1.2.10-11.alpha.rpm) = d11bf595a4b79c9d1735121ab1da2eac MD5 (libjpeg-6b-16.alpha.rpm) = 6c0a67135d51cf927e00786d9f80220f MD5 (mozilla-0.9.9-8.9.alpha.rpm) = 7292161e0f7736daa8e8f78ef11c5e58 MD5 (mozilla-mail-0.9.9-8.9.alpha.rpm) = 3fcf2eec4457ac2c66d9a76346d47801 MD5 (mozilla-nspr-0.9.9-8.9.alpha.rpm) = 31d15f6cb27d86a8004bf43dffdba7c7 MD5 (mozilla-nss-0.9.9-8.9.alpha.rpm) = 4ef9c4b0ffb74b5ee2ed29ab6f7cc8c4 MD5 (mozilla-psm-0.9.9-8.9.alpha.rpm) = 10fe5ad35d058a71e0873144468d47c9 At least, this is what _I_ needed in order to run. I performed the tried and true 'rpm2cpio | cpio -idumv' into an empty directory. The process populated two subsequent subdirs (etc/ and usr/) to which I, as root, executed 'cp -rp /compat/linux/' on. I then edited the /compat/linux/usr/bin/mozilla file to reflect the '/compat/linux' prefix to the script's shell path and subsequent paths. I remember I also symlinked a lib, libjpeg.so.62 from libjpeg.so.62.0.0 I think, to render jpegs. If all goes well, execute /usr/linux/usr/bin/mozilla as yourself and surf in relative style. If not, append a phantom '-?' to see error messages in your friendly neighborhood term window. Adjust appropriately to taste and email me the problem w/ solution. NOTES (and questions/miscellany) ===== One can maybe do without mozilla-mail if another client is preferred. One needs mozilla-psm to see https pages. Maybe there is a way to use native FreeBSD libraries? I do not know the security ramifications of this build. Some of the 0.9x builds were quite poor in that regard, and the linux-mozilla 1.0-1 port is marked FORBIDDEN (see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150339 for more information)! In case of security flaws, DO NOT RUN THIS AS A PRIVILEGED USER - LEAST OF ALL _ROOT_! If rooted, power off the system. Encase your box in concrete. Sink it to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Or, simply boot off of your CD and reinstall, wiping all file systems in the process. Do not ingest. If ingested, induce vomiting immediately! LOL ;P Mozilla picked up my Netscape 4.78 OSF/1 preferences and bookmarks, etc. (a.k.a. profile) w/o a hitch. As always, YMMV and there are no warranties either implicit or implied. I uploaded the RPMs to http://idnopheq.perlmonk.org/axp/mozilla should anyone want to give this a try yet not grab the Compaq ISOs. I strongly, strenuously, and ... uh ... superbly recommend downloading the ISOs anyway, space and bandwidth permitting, just to keep HP/Compaq developing Alpha/Linux. Even a half-hearted attempt will show in their logs. While native builds are better of course, Linux or OSF/1 compatibility is better than nothing at all from time to time. Speaking of which, anyone on the Mozilla list know a solution to the ld-elf "Unsupported Relocation Type" error (8 and 240) on Alpha (-Stable and -Release) other than building and running under -Current? For the details, check http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/154/2002/5/0/8781765/. Between Linux/Mozilla, OSF/1-Netscape-4, and native Konquerer & mMosaic & Lynx, there exist few sites I cannot view and/or render properly yet wish to ... well, none, actually. Don't tell M$. It would be nice, though, to see most all sites with one native browser. Comments and questions are welcome. Anyone know how to build the java plug-in for Mozilla on Alpha/Linux and the Compaq Alpha/Linux JRE/JDK? Or know of Alpha-capable plug-ins for other things, preferably Linux at the moment? Thanks to everyone for their help with that nasty zip issue and other things! Send email to Compaq/HP to work on Alpha/FreeBSD stuff, too!. HTH! Dex -- "Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing." - advice I should take more often http://idnopheq.perlmonk.org idnopheq@NOSPAM.perlmonk.org http://idnopheq.dns2go.com idnopheq@NOSPAM.comcast.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jul 13 9:49:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB2437B400 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84F643E42 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [217.225.201.211] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.70 #5) id 17TQ59-0003RL-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:49:19 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 7BE9930E for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:49:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jan-alpha.lan (jan-alpha.lan [192.168.0.29]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with SMTP id 997F693 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:49:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 18:49:05 +0200 From: Jan Lentfer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Order of memory modules effects system stability? Message-Id: <20020713184905.3d23f70b.Jan.Lentfer@web.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; alpha-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I have a hardware related question again (don't know where to ask else, is there a good hardware related alpha list?): OK, I have a PWS 500a. I came with 64MB installed, I added another 128MB (2x64MB) and today another 256 MB (2x128). They are all ECC RAMs and all work great individually. Somehow I thought (sort of "had the feeling") that having the greatest memory module in the first bank I removed all the chips and added them again in the order 256, 128, 64 MB. I booted the system and it booted fine, but when I logged into KDE2 the system hang up :-(. I shut down hard (pushed that button) and tried to start the system, but it didn' come up - not even to SRM console. I removed the 64MB from the last bank and everything was fine again. So I changed the memory module order back to 64,128,256 MB and everything works fine again (until now). I started like every program I have installed to fill up memory. I reached 444 MB of filled up RAM and the system was stable and responsive. So, does anyone know if there are any issues with how you order the memory modules? Does it make a performance difference where you have the largest module installed? Thanks a lot in advance, Jan Lentfer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jul 13 14:24:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2CC37B400 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2970043E5E for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:24:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 994EC534B; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:24:41 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: UPDATE: RE: XFree86 build error... References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E274D@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 13 Jul 2002 23:24:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E274D@waexch1.qgraph.com> Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Schroeder, Aaron" writes: > now, I searched for mkhtmlindex and it is located in /usr/X11R6/bin. Not > surprisingly, I am completely stumped. Again, any help on this would be much > appreciated. PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin; export PATH then try again DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message