From owner-freebsd-ia64 Sun Jun 9 1:38:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from web21109.mail.yahoo.com (web21109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9D7937B40A for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 01:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020609083807.82333.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 01:38:07 PDT Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 01:38:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Some help needed for booting ia64 under SKI/NUE To: Marcel Moolenaar , "K.Sumitani" Cc: FreeBSD-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020609040119.GA14302@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Marcel Moolenaar wrote: : Aarrgghh. The new GCC emits object files with OSABI set to FreeBSD (=9). : Linux ski only knows about SysV (=0) and HP-UX (=1). Linux uses SysV : and we used that too before the new GCC. : I'll see if we can create object files with OSABI equal to SysV... : I have to get back to this later, Yay!. I re-discovered some-problem. 8-) > > Temporary solution: brandelf -f 0 skiload. > > Brandelf on 4-STABLE works. > Yes, this is the simplest solution and it works on -current as well. > I don't expect we can create SysV objects at all. I haven't looked > though. I'll commit a change to the makefile when I have a moment > again... > > BTW: I fixed this problem for me in a completely different way and > forgot all about it (I fixed ski :-) I guess I didn't realize I > wouldn't be the only one that would see this... Oh cool. I think fixing Makefiles will be a much better solution rather than fixing ski. We could just add a target to the makefile, that when it cross-build's for ia64 and USE_SKI=yes is provided, then it should brand the resulting binaries as ELF Type 0; because I dont think this problem occurs at all when using "real(TM)" ia64 machines. ;) > Thanks, Thanks. I will try this method out soon!. ;) Assuming that the above method works, how would the kernel find the mountroot device; do I have to make a vnode-backed device or is that un-neccessary? I apologise for asking too many questions. We definitely need an FAQ for this project done. (I). :-) Regards. -- Hiten -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Sun Jun 9 10:19:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF86337B401 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g59HJqJn071128; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g59HJpTl071127; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:19:51 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some help needed for booting ia64 under SKI/NUE Message-ID: <20020609101951.B26546@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020608041819.GA15870@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20020608104632.85065.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> <20020609010050.GB13783@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020609010050.GB13783@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>; from marcel@xcllnt.net on Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:00:50PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:00:50PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Aarrgghh. The new GCC emits object files with OSABI set to FreeBSD (=9). > Linux ski only knows about SysV (=0) and HP-UX (=1). Linux uses SysV and > we used that too before the new GCC. No. GCC (ours or stock) has never set the OSABI -- it cannot at that level. Our native GNU Binutils `ld' is what sets the OSABI to FreeBSD(=9). It has done that for many years. The differences is IA-64 is now using the system `ld' vs. one cross built from stock FSF sources. > I'll see if we can create object files with OSABI equal to SysV... You would have to change `ld' and that might mess up the native IA-64 users. I would simply prepair a list of files names that Ski is upset about and `brandelf' them to SysV. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Sun Jun 9 15:37:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from hpdi.ath.cx (pc1-nfds1-5-cust34.not.cable.ntl.com [80.4.34.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9692637B407 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 15:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpdi.ath.cx (localhost.hpdi.net [127.0.0.1]) by hpdi.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g59MWD7R000343; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 23:32:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx) Received: (from hitenp@localhost) by hpdi.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g59MWCVU000342; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 23:32:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 23:32:12 +0100 From: Hiten Pandya To: ia64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Is it skiload, or is it me? Message-ID: <20020609223212.GA305@hpdi.ath.cx> Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organisation: Hiten Pandya, Leicester LE5 3NF, United Kingdom X-PGP-Key: http://www.pittgoth.com/~hiten/pubkey.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone. Thanks for helping me in getting the ski to load skiload. I brind one more dillema. I have 'brandelf -f 0 skiload'. =20 Although, when I execute 'xski skiload' in /c2/build/boot=20 (the /boot directory), the loader 'skiload' loads, but I=20 get the following error: %%% Script started on Sun Jun 9 22:40:22 2002 hitenp@hpdi:1m/c2/build/boot%m bski -noconsole -nonet skiload Console: ia64 SKI console FreeBSD/ia64 ia64 SKI boot, Revision 0.2 (hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx, Fri Jun 7 16:49:43 BST 2002) / can't load 'kernel' Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. OK Script done on Sun Jun 9 22:45:42 2002 %%% I know the error is obvious, that the kernel does not exist, but the my keyboard gets locked up, i.e I can not type anything in the window. Has this error been investigated before or am I missing a step? Also, it is possible for someone to provide me with some brief steps=20 on what would be the steps after this. This will go towards an ia64 FAQ. (see the P.S.) Thanks. P.S. Once I get SKI to boot the kernel, I want to produce an FAQ; maybe this will bring more porters towards this project. Also, Marcel, what do you think of the ia64 site diff I provided for review? --=20 Hiten Pandya http://storm.uk.FreeBSD.org/~hiten Finger hiten@storm.uk.FreeBSD.org for PGP public key -- 4FB9 C4A9 4925 CF97 9BF3 ADDA 861D 5DBD E4E3 03C3=20 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9A9drhh1dveTjA8MRAujKAJ9682g+aNVfm9++W+gkmXY8ZNdzdgCgrBmF OZGsNjvTpI9B0VNIt9QuigA= =/J5O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Sun Jun 9 20: 4:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from kayak.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D88637B40B for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 20:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by kayak.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g5A34bJ05965; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 20:04:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@kayak.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5A34fH4029703; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 20:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5A34f9r029702; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 20:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 20:04:41 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: "K.Sumitani" , FreeBSD-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some help needed for booting ia64 under SKI/NUE Message-ID: <20020610030441.GB29330@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20020609040119.GA14302@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20020609083807.82333.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020609083807.82333.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 01:38:07AM -0700, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > Oh cool. I think fixing Makefiles will be a much better solution rather > than fixing ski. We could just add a target to the makefile, that when > it cross-build's for ia64 and USE_SKI=yes is provided, then it should brand > the resulting binaries as ELF Type 0; because I dont think this problem > occurs at all when using "real(TM)" ia64 machines. ;) We only need to brand skiload and that is never used on hardware anyway. Hence, we can always brandelf. > Thanks. I will try this method out soon!. ;) Assuming that the above > method works, how would the kernel find the mountroot device; do I have > to make a vnode-backed device or is that un-neccessary? Under ski, you only need a regular file, named ia64-root.fs by default. To create such a file you would probably use a vnode-backed MD device, yes. You can set SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM in the kernel config file to any filename you like. 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Message-ID: <20020611142811.A11698@kayak.xcllnt.net> References: <20020609223212.GA305@hpdi.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020609223212.GA305@hpdi.ath.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:32:12PM +0100, Hiten Pandya wrote: > %%% > Script started on Sun Jun 9 22:40:22 2002 > hitenp@hpdi:1m/c2/build/boot%m bski -noconsole -nonet skiload > Console: ia64 SKI console > > FreeBSD/ia64 ia64 SKI boot, Revision 0.2 > (hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx, Fri Jun 7 16:49:43 BST 2002) > / > can't load 'kernel' > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > OK This is a generic problem. Just type "load kernel" and it all works, provided you can type. Why did you add -noconsole and -nonet? > maybe this will bring more porters towards this project. Also, > Marcel, what do you think of the ia64 site diff I provided for review? The SGML magic to easily load the dmesg(1) output is handy. Especially now that we have the freedom to create directories and files to our hearts content. Other than that, it didn't really had a lot of body, so I didn't feel a strong urge to commit it. I'll probably piggyback it with other changes... HTH, -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Tue Jun 11 14:44:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEEC337B416 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020611214406.16868.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:44:06 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:44:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Is it skiload, or is it me? To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: ia64@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020611142811.A11698@kayak.xcllnt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:32:12PM +0100, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > %%% > > Script started on Sun Jun 9 22:40:22 2002 > > hitenp@hpdi:1m/c2/build/boot%m bski -noconsole -nonet skiload > > Console: ia64 SKI console > > > > FreeBSD/ia64 ia64 SKI boot, Revision 0.2 > > (hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx, Fri Jun 7 16:49:43 BST 2002) > > / > > can't load 'kernel' > > > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > > OK > > This is a generic problem. Just type "load kernel" and it all works, > provided you can type. Why did you add -noconsole and -nonet? I added -noconsole, so that (b)SKI will load the simulator in the controling terminal. I also tried the normal way "xski skiload", but when the X-Window comes up, I still cant type anything, i.e. I cant type. This problem also happened to me when dfr sent an ia64 snapshot for trial. Probably is some step I am missing, right? > The SGML magic to easily load the dmesg(1) output is handy. Especially > now that we have the freedom to create directories and files to our > hearts content. Yup. It gives us the flexibility of adding entities in a section where all data is !SGML. :-) > Other than that, it didn't really had a lot of body, so I didn't feel > a strong urge to commit it. I'll probably piggyback it with other > changes... Understood. I saw an ia64/ directory under platforms, so I will get cracking with more information. Hiten hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hiten@xMach.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Tue Jun 11 14:53:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from gate.qubesoft.com (gate.qubesoft.com [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EF437B40B for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluebottle.qubesoft.com (bluebottle [192.168.1.2]) by gate.qubesoft.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g5BLrdZ40475; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:53:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@qubesoft.com) Received: from bluebottle (bluebottle [192.168.1.2]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g5BLrcD18042; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:53:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@qubesoft.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:53:38 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , Subject: Re: Is it skiload, or is it me? In-Reply-To: <20020611214406.16868.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020611224958.U17191-100000@bluebottle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > I added -noconsole, so that (b)SKI will load the simulator in the controling > terminal. I also tried the normal way "xski skiload", but when the X-Window > comes up, I still cant type anything, i.e. I cant type. This problem also > happened to me when dfr sent an ia64 snapshot for trial. Probably is some > step I am missing, right? This is a linux emulation problem which the linux version of ski trips over. Basically the vmin and vtime attributes of the console's pty are set to 255. You need to figure out which pty its using and set them back to zero. Something like: $ stty -a < /dev/ttyp0 ... look to see if min and time are 255 ... Do this for each ttypN until you find the one ski is using, then: $ stty min 0 time 0 < /dev/ttypN where N is the one you found in the first step. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@qubesoft.com Technical Director, Qube Software Ltd. Phone: +44 20 7431 9995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Tue Jun 11 14:58:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from kayak.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915AE37B406 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by kayak.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g5BLw0Z11912; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:58:00 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is it skiload, or is it me? Message-ID: <20020611145800.A11851@kayak.xcllnt.net> References: <20020611142811.A11698@kayak.xcllnt.net> <20020611214406.16868.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020611214406.16868.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 02:44:06PM -0700, Hiten Pandya wrote: > --- Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:32:12PM +0100, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > > %%% > > > Script started on Sun Jun 9 22:40:22 2002 > > > hitenp@hpdi:1m/c2/build/boot%m bski -noconsole -nonet skiload > > > Console: ia64 SKI console > > > > > > FreeBSD/ia64 ia64 SKI boot, Revision 0.2 > > > (hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx, Fri Jun 7 16:49:43 BST 2002) > > > / > > > can't load 'kernel' > > > > > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > > > OK > > > > This is a generic problem. Just type "load kernel" and it all works, > > provided you can type. Why did you add -noconsole and -nonet? > > I added -noconsole, so that (b)SKI will load the simulator in the controling > terminal. Ah, I remember. There's a TTY timeout setting that's iprobably causing this. You might want to search the archives. I don't know the details. > Understood. I saw an ia64/ directory under platforms, so I will get > cracking with more information. Oh, I didn't create one. Good to know... -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Fri Jun 14 3:36: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from hpdi.ath.cx (pc1-nfds1-5-cust34.not.cable.ntl.com [80.4.34.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C0737B486 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 03:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpdi.ath.cx (localhost.hpdi.net [127.0.0.1]) by hpdi.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5EAUdaG002493 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:30:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx) Received: (from hitenp@localhost) by hpdi.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5EAUdqb002492 for FreeBSD-ia64@FreebSD.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:30:39 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:30:38 +0100 From: Hiten Pandya To: FreeBSD-ia64@FreebSD.org Subject: SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM option errors out Message-ID: <20020614103038.GA2453@hpdi.ath.cx> Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organisation: Hiten Pandya, Leicester LE5 3NF, United Kingdom X-PGP-Key: http://www.pittgoth.com/~hiten/pubkey.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. After following dfr's instructions; I got ski to accept keyboard input. Then, I tried rebuilding the kernel as SKI2 with the option that Marcel provided to me, SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM, but the kernel build errors out. Is this a problem with the build or is it me doing something wrong as usual? :) The error file is attached with this mail. I tried the following combinations but none of them worked: options SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM "/c2/build" options SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM=3D"/c2/build" options SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM /c2/build I would be greatful to get this sorted; and then it is ... IA64 FAQ Time! FYI: ski listens on /dev/ttyp2 on a FreeBSD system (I am using DEVFS) Thanks. Regards. P.S. Error output attached. --=20 Hiten Pandya http://storm.uk.FreeBSD.org/~hiten Finger hiten@storm.uk.FreeBSD.org for PGP public key -- 4FB9 C4A9 4925 CF97 9BF3 ADDA 861D 5DBD E4E3 03C3=20 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="error.out" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes= -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wno-format -a= nsi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/data/dev/src/sys -I/data/dev/src/sys/dev -I/da= ta/dev/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/data/dev/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/d= ata/dev/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -ffreestanding -include opt_global.h = -fno-common -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=3Df32-f127 -ffreestanding -Werror = /data/dev/src/sys/ia64/ia64/sscdisk.c /data/dev/src/sys/ia64/ia64/sscdisk.c: In function `ssccreate': /data/dev/src/sys/ia64/ia64/sscdisk.c:243: syntax error before '/' token /data/dev/src/sys/ia64/ia64/sscdisk.c:244: too many arguments to function `= ia64_tpa' /data/dev/src/sys/ia64/ia64/sscdisk.c:244: syntax error before ';' token *** Error code 1 Stop in /c2/ia64/ia64/data/dev/src/sys/SKI2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /data/dev/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /data/dev/src. hpdi# =07^D=08=08exit Script done on Fri Jun 14 11:16:34 2002 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9CcXOhh1dveTjA8MRAsYXAJ92D2yqtxtj2LPvadNoCyIS0JDpSQCgzYws Pk+qXB8bRFIUtokWA26dMog= =ofm7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Fri Jun 14 9:54:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from gate.qubesoft.com (gate.qubesoft.com [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C4537B427 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluebottle.qubesoft.com (bluebottle [192.168.1.2]) by gate.qubesoft.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g5EGs1Z56973; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 17:54:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@qubesoft.com) Received: from bluebottle (bluebottle [192.168.1.2]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g5EGs1D34743; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 17:54:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@qubesoft.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 17:54:01 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson X-X-Sender: To: Hiten Pandya Cc: Subject: Re: SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM option errors out In-Reply-To: <20020614103038.GA2453@hpdi.ath.cx> Message-ID: <20020614175205.T33916-100000@bluebottle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Hiten Pandya wrote: > Hi. > > After following dfr's instructions; I got ski to accept keyboard input. > Then, I tried rebuilding the kernel as SKI2 with the option that Marcel > provided to me, SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM, but the kernel build errors out. Is > this a problem with the build or is it me doing something wrong as usual? :) > > The error file is attached with this mail. I tried the following > combinations but none of them worked: > > options SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM "/c2/build" > options SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM="/c2/build" > options SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM /c2/build > > I would be greatful to get this sorted; and then it is ... IA64 FAQ Time! > FYI: ski listens on /dev/ttyp2 on a FreeBSD system (I am using DEVFS) It looks like the '"' marks are being stripped out. Try escaping them with '\'. Note also that this pathname should be to a file containing a UFS filesystem. I suspect that the path you are using is to a directory containing your build. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@qubesoft.com Phone: +44 20 7431 9995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Sat Jun 15 8:22:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from arcor.de (ACB1BCC7.ipt.aol.com [172.177.188.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0666F37B410 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 08:18:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "todschick38259@arcor.de" To: Subject: Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:18:36 +0200 Reply-To: "todschick38259@arcor.de" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020615151819.0666F37B410@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Störung! Mir ist etwas zu Ohren gekommen. Eine relativ aussergewöhnliche Gerüchteküche, aus der man mir ein schwerverdauliches Süppchen vorgesetzt hat, ist der Grund meiner Mail. Unappetitlich ist gar kein Ausdruck! Ist es möglich auf funktechnischem Wege(in welchen Frequenzbereichen?) jemanden zu beeinflussen oder zu manipulieren? Oder sogar zu schikanieren und terrorisieren? Unter dem Motto:"Einen am Sender?Nich ganz alleine? Kleine Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlänge?Bohnen in den Ohren? Auf den Zahn gefühlt(Amalgam)?Mal unverbindlich reinhören? Der Pullacher Wanzentanz? Ist das Spinnerei?Das geht doch gar nicht,oder? Und wenn wie sieht das ethisch moralisch aus? Zur technischen Seite der Sache gibt es zwar Berichte und Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. ,aber,das kann doch nicht sein,das soetwas gemacht wird,oder? Eine Menschenrechtsverletzung sonder gleichen!?! Ist es möglich,durch Präparation,der Ohren und im Zusammenspiel mit eventuell vorhandenem Zahnersatz? Mit relativ einfacher Funktechnik?? In diesem Land?Hier und heute??? Unter welchen Motiven? Wo ist eigentlich die Abteilung 5 des BND und des Verfassungsschutzes? Kann es sein,daß es Leute gibt,die dem BND/Verfassungsschutz,auf funktechnischem Wege permanent einen Situationsbericht abliefern,ohne es selbst zu merken,im Kindesalter machbar gemacht?? Werden durch solche inoffiziellen Mitarbeiter,beim BND und Verfassungsschutz,nach Stasimanier, Informationen von und über,rein theoretisch, jeden Bundesbürger,gesammelt? Gibt es dann noch ein Recht auf Privatsphere? Wer kontrolliert eigentlich den BND,MAD und Verfassungsschutz auf Unterwanderung??? In der Mail geht es mir eigentlich um die Frage,ob es kriminellen Elementen, aus dem Motiv der Bereicherung,oder Gruppierungen aus ideologischen Motiven, möglich ist ,sich Wissen und Technik anzueignen,die zu anderen Zeiten, aus anderen Motiven(Westfernsehen?),entwickelt wurde. Und stellt der technische Wissensstand, der der Allgemeinheit bekannt ist wirklich das Ende der Fahnenstange dar? Ist es denn nicht kriminellen Elementen genauso möglich, ich sage das jetzt mal verharmlost und verniedlichend, einzelne Personen oder Gruppen mit relativ einfachen Mitteln, aus welchen Motiven auch immer, auszuspionieren? Und stellt diese "Ausspioniererei" nicht einen erheblichen Eingriff in die Privatsphäre dar? Ist es möglich einzelne Personen oder Gruppen, eine Akzeptans einer gewissen Öffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), die z.B. mit Hilfe von Internetseiten,wie zum Beispiel dem "Pranger"geschaffen werden könnte, mal vorausgestzt,zu terroriesieren und oder zu schikanieren, und das in aller (suggerierten)Öffentlichkeit?Haben die Leute die da am Pranger, oder auf irgendeiner anderen Seite verunglimpft,oder gar Verleumdet werden, eigentlich eine Chance zur Gegenöffentlichkeit?Ist das nicht Rufmord? Vor einigen Jahren bin ich per Zufall auf die Seite "Der Pranger" gestoßen, damals lief das noch nicht unter dem Deckmantel der Partnervermittlung. Können sich einzelne Personen,oder Interessengemeinschaften, aus reinem Selbstzweck,solcher Seiten bedienen, um unter dem Deckmantel einer fragwürdigen Zivilkourage, durch anzetteln irgendwelcher Hetzkampagnen,eigene, ganz persöhnliche Interessen durchsetzen? Können solche Seiten zur Koordination von kriminellen machenschaften dienen? Die Frage,ist es Möglichkeit oder Unmöglichkeit,technisch und gesellschaftlich, einzelne Personen,oder auch Gruppierungen,aus einer kriminellen/ideologischen Energei heraus,zu manipulieren oder zu beeinflussen,terrorisieren oder zu schickanieren,und zwar gezielt. Zielgruppenmanipulation durch Massenmedien sind alltägliche Manipulation, der mansich,mehr oder weniger,entziehen kann. Wird das Recht auf Privatsphäre,schleichend,tiefenpsychologisch, durch Sendungen,wie,zum Beispiel "Big brother",untergraben? Sollte bei einem der Angemailten ein gewisser Wissensstand zum Thema vorhanden sein, wäre ich über Hinweise zum Thema froh. Auf der Suche nach Antworten auf meine Fragen maile ich verschiedene Adressen aus dem Internet an, und hoffe aufkonstruktive Antworten und Kritiken. Über einen Besuch auf der Seite würde ich mich freuen. Sollten Sie von mir mehrfach angeschrieben worden sein,so bitte ich Sie,mir dies zu entschuldigen, das war nicht beabsichtigt. Der Grund für meine Anonymität ist die Tatsache, daß bei derlei Fragenstellerei, verständlicherweise,schnell der Ruf nach der Psychatrie laut wird. Was auch Methode hat(ist). Sollten Sie die Mail als Belästigung empfinden, möchte ich mich hiermit dafür entschuldigen! Big brother is watching you? Excuse please the disturbance! Me something came to ears. A relatively unusual rumor kitchen, from which one put forward to me a heavydigestible soup, is the reason of my Mail. Unappetizing is no printout! Is it possible on radio Wege(in for which frequency ranges?) to influence or manipulate someone? Terrorize or to even chicane and? Under the Motto:"Einen at the Sender?Nich quite alone? Small Mannim Ohr?Fal Wellenlaenge?Bohnen in the ears? On the tooth clean-hear gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal witthout obligation? The Pullacher bug wanzentanz? Isn't the Spinnerei?Das goes nevertheless at all, or? And if as looks ethicalally morally? For the technical page of the thing there is to report and web page: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. but, that cannot be nevertheless, which is made soetwas, or? A violation of human rights resemble special!?! Is it possible, by preparation, the ears and in interaction with possibly available artificial dentures? With relatively simple radio engineering?? In this Land?Hier and today??? Under which motives? Where is the department actually 5 of the BND and the protection of the constitution? Can it be that there are people, which deliver the Federal Intelligence Service/protection of the constitution, on radio way permanently a situation report, without noticing it, in the infancy feasiblly made? By such unofficial coworkers, with the BND and protection of the constitution, after Stasimanier, is information collected of and over,purely theoretically, each Federal citizen? Is there then still another right to Privatsphere? Who actually checks the BND, WAD and protection of the constitution for infiltration??? Into the Mail actually concerns it to me the question whether it criminal items, from which motive of enriching, or groupings from ideological motives is possible, to acquire itself knowledge and technique which were developed at other times, from other Motiven(Westfernsehen?).And does the technical knowledge status place, to that the public admits is really the end of the flag bar? Is it not to criminal items just as possible, I legend that now times played down and does nice-end, individual persons or groups with relatively simple means, to spy from whatever motives always? And doesn't this " Ausspioniererei " represent a substantial intervention into the privatsphaere? It is possible individual persons or groups, one acceptance to of a certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), e.g. by Internet pages, how for example the " Pranger"geschaffen could become, times vorausgestzt, to terroriesieren and or chicane, and in everything (the people suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben there at the Pranger, or on any other page to be reviled, or slandered, actually a chance to the Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist that not character assassination? Some years ago I am by coincidence the page " the Pranger " encountered, at that time ran not yet under the cover of the partner switching.Itself can individual persons, or communities of interests, from pure self purpose, such pages to serve, over under the cover of a doubtful Zivilkourage, through plot any rushing campaigns, own, quite persoehnliche interests to intersperse? Can such pages serve for the co-ordination of criminal machinations? The question, is it possibility or impossibility, technically and socially, individual persons, or also groupings of manipulating or of influencing from an criminal/ideological Energei, terrorizes or to schickanieren, directed.Target group manipulation by mass media are everyday manipulation, from which, more or less, can extract itself. Does the right to privatsphaere, creeping, by transmissions become deep psychological, how, for example " Big undermine brother"? If the Angemailten should be available a certain knowledge status to the topic with one, I would be glad over notes to the topic On the search for responses to my questions maile I different addresses from the Internet on, and hope up-constructional responses and criticisms.Over an attendance on the page wuerde I are pleased.If you should have been written down by me several times, then please I you to excuse me this that was not intended. The reason for my anonymity is the fact that with such Fragenstellerei, understandably, fast after the call the Psychatrie loud becomes. Which also method hat(ist). If you should feel the Mail as annoyance, I would like to apologize hereby for it! Big is watching you? Veuillez excuser le dérangement! Moi quelque chose concernant des oreilles est venu. Une cuisine de bruit relativement inhabituelle, dont on m'a placé un Sueppchen schwerverdauliches devant, est la raison de mes Mail.Aucune expression n'est peu appétissante! Il est possible sur un Wege(in funktechnischem pour quelles réponses fréquentielles?) quelqu'un influencer ou manipuler? Ou même schikanieren et terroriser? Sous le Motto:"Einen au Sender?Nich tout à fait seulement? Petits Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlaenge?Bohnen dans les oreilles? Sur la dent gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal non contraignant reinhoeren? Le Pullacher Wanzentanz? Le Spinnerei?Das n'est-il quand même pas du tout va, ou? Et si comme cela paraît éthiquement moralement? Au côté technique de la chose, il y a certes des rapports et des Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. toutefois qui ne peut quand même pas être qui on fait soetwas, ou? Une violation des droits de l'homme séparer ressembler!?! Il est possible, par la préparation, des oreilles et dans l'effet avec la prothèse dentaire éventuellement existante? Avec la technique de radio relativement simple?? Dans ce Land?Hier et aujourd'hui Sous quels motifs? Où le département est-il en réalité 5 du BND et de la protection d'constitution? peut il être qu'il y a les personnes qui livrent en permanence le BND/Verfassungsschutz, de manière funktechnischem un rapport de situation, sans le remarquer le -même , dans l'enfance rendu possible?? Par de tels collaborateurs officieux, avec le BND et la protection d'constitution, après manière, des informations sont-elles rassemblées et plus de, purement théoriquement, chaque citoyen allemand? Il y a alors encore un droit à des Privatsphere? Qui contrôle en réalité le BND, mad et protection d'constitution sur une infiltration??? Il s'agit en réalité dans le Mail me la question de savoir si lui éléments criminels, dont le motif de l'enrichissement, ou de groupements des motifs idéologiques, possible de s'acquérir le savoir et la technique qui à d'autres temps, est autre MotivenEt place-t-il le savoir technique dont le public vraiment la fin la barre de drapeau a connaissance ? Il n'est pas donc exactement la même chose possible pour des éléments criminels, moi cela maintenant fois verharmlost et minimisant une légende, personnes ou groupes particuliers avec des moyens relativement simples, de quels motifs aussi toujours, auszuspionieren?(Westfernsehen?), a été développé. Et ce "Ausspioniererei" ne représente-t-il pas une intervention considérable dans la vie privée? Il est possible personnes ou groupes particuliers, pour certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), celui p. ex. à l'aide des côtés Internet, comme par exemple "le Pranger"geschaffen pourrait, fois vorausgestzt schikanieren terroriesieren et ou , et qui toute (suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben les personnes ceux là, ou d'un autre côté verunglimpft, ou on ne pas calomnie, en réalité une chance au Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist qui meurtre d'appel? Il y a quelques années, je ne suis pas encore par hasard sur le côté "celui" poussé, fonctionnais alors cela sous la couche de pont de l'entremise partenaire. Des personnes particulières, ou des communautés d'intérêts le peuventelles, d'un autobut pur, de tels côtés servent, sous la couche de pont d'un Zivilkourage douteux, tracent plus de des campagnes de précipitation, propres intérêts tout à fait persoehnliche entremêlent? De tels côtés peuvent-ils servir à la coordination des manoeuvres criminelles? Question, est lui possibilité ou impossibilité de manipuler ou d'influencer techniquement et socialement, particulière personnes, ou aussi groupements, criminelle/ponctuel idéologique Energei dehors, , terroriser ou schickanieren, et ce.Une manipulation de groupe cible par des masse-médias être la manipulation quotidienne qui peut extraire mansich, plus ou moins. Le droit à la vie privée est-il miné, ramment, tiefenpsychologisch, par des envois, comme, par exemple "des Big brother"? Avec un les Angemailten si un certain savoir devait exister sur le thème, je serais heureux sur des indications sur le thème.Sur la recherche des réponses à mes questions je différentes adresses maile d'Internet dessus, et espère réponses et critiques aufkonstruktive. Sur une visite du côté http://hometown.aol.de/reinerhohn38259/homepage/index.html> je me réjouirais. Si vous deviez avoir été écrit à différentes reprises par moi, je vous demande de m'excuser cela qui n'était pas envisagé. La raison de mon anonymat est le fait qu'avec telle des Fragenstellerei, l'appel devient ce qui est bien compréhensible, rapidement bruyant après le Psychatrie. Ce que la méthode a également (ist). Si vous deviez ressentir les Mail comme un ennui, je voudrais m'excuser par ceci pour cela! Big brother is watching you? Könnte mir jemand bei der korrekten Überstzung helfen? Could someone help me with the correct translation? Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'aider lors du Ueberstzung correct? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Sat Jun 15 16:12:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from hpdi.ath.cx (pc1-nfds1-5-cust34.not.cable.ntl.com [80.4.34.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850CB37B400 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 16:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpdi.ath.cx (localhost.hpdi.net [127.0.0.1]) by hpdi.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5FN7Wa2000973 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:07:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx) Received: (from hitenp@localhost) by hpdi.ath.cx (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5FN7VIX000972 for FreeBSD-ia64@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:07:31 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:07:31 +0100 From: Hiten Pandya To: FreeBSD-ia64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Traps in SKI Message-ID: <20020615230730.GA929@hpdi.ath.cx> Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organisation: Hiten Pandya, Leicester LE5 3NF, United Kingdom X-PGP-Key: http://www.pittgoth.com/~hiten/pubkey.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. I have finally got SKI to load up. Now, I think it detects the root filesystem set by: options SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM \"/dev/md2\" Although, this is what I get when I boot skiload. Attached is the script(1) output: %%% Script started on Sat Jun 15 23:50:56 2002 hpdi# bski -noconsole -nonet boot/skiload=20 Console: ia64 SKI console FreeBSD/ia64 ia64 SKI boot, Revision 0.2 (hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx, Fri Jun 7 16:49:43 BST 2002) |Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf=20 Warning: syntax error on file /boot/loader.conf lsdev -v ^ -/boot/kernel/kernel data=3D0x3003d0+0x22600 syms=3D[0x8+0x2db70+0x8+0x25e0= 5] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. OK ls open '/' failed: no such file or directory OK boot -v Entering /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xe00000000050a000... PAL code not found No system table! Platform clock frequency 133347096 Hz Processor ratio 11/2, Bus ratio 1/1, ITC ratio 11/2 ptc.e base=3D0x0, count1=3D1, count2=3D1, stride1=3D0x0, stride2=3D0x0 Processor supports 18 Region ID bits Trying VHPT size 0x40000 Putting VHPT at 0x280000 Splitting [0x24a000-0x500000] fatal kernel trap (cpu 0): trap vector =3D 0x18 (General Exception) cr.iip =3D 0xe00000000072ad10 cr.ipsr =3D 0x101008022010 (mfl,ic,dt,rt,cpl=3D0,it,ri=3D0,bn) cr.isr =3D 0x0 (code=3D0,vector=3D0,ei=3D0) cr.ifa =3D 0xe0000000007ef9c8 cr.iim =3D 0x0 curthread =3D 0xe0000000007c4248 pid =3D 0, comm =3D=20 Stopped at 0xe00000000072ad10: [MMI] mov.m ar.fcr=3Dr17;; db> c panic: trap panic Stopped at 0xe000000000715521: nop.m 0x0 db> c Uptime: 1s Terminated Script done on Sat Jun 15 23:54:26 2002 %%% Is there something I am missing. I am also attaching the kernel configuration file which I used for building this kernel. I am willing to provide more information if needed. Thanks. Regards. --=20 Hiten Pandya http://storm.uk.FreeBSD.org/~hiten Finger hiten@storm.uk.FreeBSD.org for PGP public key -- 4FB9 C4A9 4925 CF97 9BF3 ADDA 861D 5DBD E4E3 03C3=20 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=SKI2 # # SKI -- Kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/ia64 running in the HP # SKI simulator # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../i386/conf/NOTES file. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. Please note that this is the i386 NOTES, but it still contains # valuable info for ia64 too. # # For hardware specific information check HARDWARE.TXT # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/ia64/conf/SKI,v 1.1 2001/10/09 10:14:06 dfr Exp $ machine ia64 cpu ITANIUM ident SKI2 maxusers 32 #To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols makeoptions NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS=true #Ignore any x86 CPUTYPE makeoptions KERNEL=ia64ski #Kernel Name Change to avoid conflicts options SKI #Support for HP simulator options INET #InterNETworking #options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device #options NFSCLIENT #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem #options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PSEUDOFS #A requirment for Process filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console #options KTRACE #ktrace(1) syscall trace support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extentions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options CONSPEED=115200 options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER #a BREAK on a comconsole goes to # Debugging for use in -current options DDB options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT #options WITNESS #options KTR #options KTR_EXTEND #options KTR_ENTRIES=1024 #options KTR_COMPILE="(KTR_INTR|KTR_PROC)" #options KTR_MASK=0 #options KTR_CPUMASK=0x3 #options KTR_VERBOSE # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. device random # Entropy device device loop # Network loopback device ether # Ethernet support device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! device bpf #Berkeley packet filter options SKI_ROOT_FILESYSTEM=\"/dev/md2\" --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9C8inhh1dveTjA8MRAsozAKCajF3XwO7GGkhOrmzPD6HJVoF0EwCggDMv cVtRofzPpPXk+4fXRJOn+jQ= =Wlm3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-ia64 Sat Jun 15 17: 3:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Received: from kayak.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9571D37B97F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by kayak.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g5G02VJ26532; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@kayak.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5G02eQL001510; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:02:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5G02dQJ001509; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:02:39 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Hiten Pandya Cc: FreeBSD-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Traps in SKI Message-ID: <20020616000239.GA1465@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20020615230730.GA929@hpdi.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020615230730.GA929@hpdi.ath.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 12:07:31AM +0100, Hiten Pandya wrote: > Splitting [0x24a000-0x500000] > > fatal kernel trap (cpu 0): > > trap vector = 0x18 (General Exception) > cr.iip = 0xe00000000072ad10 > cr.ipsr = 0x101008022010 (mfl,ic,dt,rt,cpl=0,it,ri=0,bn) > cr.isr = 0x0 (code=0,vector=0,ei=0) > cr.ifa = 0xe0000000007ef9c8 > cr.iim = 0x0 > curthread = 0xe0000000007c4248 > pid = 0, comm = > > Stopped at 0xe00000000072ad10: [MMI] mov.m ar.fcr=r17;; This is caused by a bug in SKI. Try the following patch: Index: swtch.s =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/ia64/ia64/swtch.s,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 swtch.s --- swtch.s 7 May 2002 05:52:27 -0000 1.21 +++ swtch.s 16 Jun 2002 00:01:24 -0000 @@ -355,7 +355,7 @@ mov ar.fsr=r16 ;; ld8 r16=[r15],8 // ar.fir - mov ar.fcr=r17 + // mov ar.fcr=r17 ;; ld8 r17=[r15],8 // ar.fdr mov ar.fir=r16 Note that this breaks IA32 support. Patch is untested. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ia64" in the body of the message