From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 2:12:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF22D37B404; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 02:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [210.49.75.34] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id pfufaaaa for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:12:08 +1000 Message-ID: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:11:44 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Good dual port NICs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiyas, Just wondering if anyone has a recomendation on some good quality duel port NICs that work well with FreeBSD?? Im not talking about those trunking ones.. Just plain old multi-port NICs.. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 2:29:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.dev.itouchnet.net (devco.net [196.15.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D70937B411 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 02:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with scanned_ok (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MQA5-0002tu-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:29:29 +0200 Received: from shell.devco.net ([196.15.188.7]) by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MQA3-0002tZ-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:29:27 +0200 Received: from bvi by shell.devco.net with local (Exim 3.33 #4) id 17MQ9G-000DtQ-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:28:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:28:38 +0200 From: Barry Irwin To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? Message-ID: <20020624112838.F46303@itouchlabs.com> References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 07:11:44PM +1000 X-Checked: Scanned for any viruses and unauthorized attachments at mx1.dev.itouchnet.net X-iScan-ID: 11150-1024910968-78849@mx1.dev.itouchnet.net version $Name: REL_2_0_2 $ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for quite a while with no hastles. Barry On Mon 2002-06-24 (19:11), Kal Torak wrote: > Hiyas, > > Just wondering if anyone has a recomendation on some > good quality duel port NICs that work well with FreeBSD?? > > Im not talking about those trunking ones.. Just plain old > multi-port NICs.. > > Thanks! > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- Barry Irwin bvi@itouchlabs.com +27214875177 Systems Administrator: Networks And Security Itouch Labs http://www.itouchlabs.com South Africa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 2:42:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0979537B404; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 02:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [210.49.75.34] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id zfufaaaa for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:42:35 +1000 Message-ID: <3D16E972.3080505@quake.com.au> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:42:10 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Irwin Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624112838.F46303@itouchlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Barry Irwin wrote: > Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for > quite a while with no hastles. I think I looked at that card before.. Its 4 ports count as "one" interface dont they? It does load balancing and redundancy..? But I want one card that has at least two interfaces on it that are seperate, each with their own IP address etc.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 2:48:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.dev.itouchnet.net (devco.net [196.15.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27137B401 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 02:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with scanned_ok (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MQTQ-0003NG-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:49:28 +0200 Received: from shell.devco.net ([196.15.188.7]) by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MQTO-0003Mv-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:49:26 +0200 Received: from bvi by shell.devco.net with local (Exim 3.33 #4) id 17MQSb-000DwA-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:48:37 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:48:37 +0200 From: Barry Irwin To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? Message-ID: <20020624114837.I46303@itouchlabs.com> References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624112838.F46303@itouchlabs.com> <3D16E972.3080505@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3D16E972.3080505@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 07:42:10PM +1000 X-Checked: Scanned for any viruses and unauthorized attachments at mx1.dev.itouchnet.net X-iScan-ID: 12970-1024912167-54729@mx1.dev.itouchnet.net version $Name: REL_2_0_2 $ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here is an ifconfig -a on my one box card has 4 separate chips on it 4 different macs etc.. bash-2.05$ ifconfig dc0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 inet 192.192.192.5 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 192.192.192.63 ether 00:80:c8:cf:a3:0d media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none dc1: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:80:c8:cf:a3:0e media: autoselect (none) status: no carrier supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none dc2: flags=8943 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.9.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.9.255 inet 192.168.9.1 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.9.1 ether 00:80:c8:cf:a3:0f media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none dc3: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:80:c8:cf:a3:10 media: autoselect (none) status: no carrier supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none On Mon 2002-06-24 (19:42), Kal Torak wrote: > Barry Irwin wrote: > > Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for > > quite a while with no hastles. > > I think I looked at that card before.. > > Its 4 ports count as "one" interface dont they? It does > load balancing and redundancy..? > > But I want one card that has at least two interfaces on > it that are seperate, each with their own IP address etc.. > > > -- Barry Irwin bvi@itouchlabs.com +27214875177 Systems Administrator: Networks And Security Itouch Labs http://www.itouchlabs.com South Africa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 2:57:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from christel.heitec.net (christel.heitec.net [193.101.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C4C37B404 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 02:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from norbu.admin.er.heitec.net (paladin.heitec.net [193.101.232.30]) by christel.heitec.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2156FB8206 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:57:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by norbu.admin.er.heitec.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B784B60F; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:57:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:57:38 +0200 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? Message-ID: <20020624095738.GA229@heitec.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD ISP References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Organization: Heitec AG From: lenz@heitec.net (Lenz Gschwendtner) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Kal Torak wrote: > Hiyas, > > Just wondering if anyone has a recomendation on some > good quality duel port NICs that work well with FreeBSD?? we have some adaptec 4 port nics in an internal router in our network, it is a ANA6944A/TX. it works good for two years now with plenty of load (4 cards/16 ports in a server, running 100base TX) here is the bootmessage for the chipset of the card: de0: port 0xa000-0xa07f mem 0xbb003000-0xbb00307f de0: Cogent EM440TX 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 lenz -- FreeBSD Systemadministrator fon +49 9131 877-138 fax +49 9131 877-136 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 3: 8: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.dev.itouchnet.net (devco.net [196.15.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5CA37B405 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with scanned_ok (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MQmi-0003t2-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:09:24 +0200 Received: from shell.devco.net ([196.15.188.7]) by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MQmg-0003so-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:09:22 +0200 Received: from bvi by shell.devco.net with local (Exim 3.33 #4) id 17MQlt-000Dzc-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:08:33 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:08:33 +0200 From: Barry Irwin To: Lenz Gschwendtner Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? Message-ID: <20020624120833.L46303@itouchlabs.com> References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624095738.GA229@heitec.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020624095738.GA229@heitec.net>; from lenz@heitec.net on Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 11:57:38AM +0200 X-Checked: Scanned for any viruses and unauthorized attachments at mx1.dev.itouchnet.net X-iScan-ID: 14940-1024913363-87439@mx1.dev.itouchnet.net version $Name: REL_2_0_2 $ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Adaptec Quartet (starfire) cards are also a nice quad port card ( and are on a 64-bit PCI card) They use the sf driver. I have a few of these as well, but prefer theDlinks which are in the region of 1/4 of the cost. Barry On Mon 2002-06-24 (11:57), Lenz Gschwendtner wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Kal Torak wrote: > > > Hiyas, > > > > Just wondering if anyone has a recomendation on some > > good quality duel port NICs that work well with FreeBSD?? > > we have some adaptec 4 port nics in an internal router in our network, > it is a ANA6944A/TX. it works good for two years now with plenty of > load (4 cards/16 ports in a server, running 100base TX) > here is the bootmessage for the chipset of the card: > > de0: port 0xa000-0xa07f mem > 0xbb003000-0xbb00307f > de0: Cogent EM440TX 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 > > lenz > -- > FreeBSD Systemadministrator > fon +49 9131 877-138 > fax +49 9131 877-136 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- Barry Irwin bvi@itouchlabs.com +27214875177 Systems Administrator: Networks And Security Itouch Labs http://www.itouchlabs.com South Africa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 3:15:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9A237B403 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [210.49.75.34] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id kgufaaaa for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:15:51 +1000 Message-ID: <3D16F13E.8040503@quake.com.au> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:15:26 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Irwin Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624095738.GA229@heitec.net> <20020624120833.L46303@itouchlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Barry Irwin wrote: > Adaptec Quartet (starfire) cards are also a nice quad port card ( and are on > a 64-bit PCI card) > > > They use the sf driver. I have a few of these as well, but prefer theDlinks > which are in the region of 1/4 of the cost. Hmmm so you can actualy use each 4 ports seperatly?? I see in your ifconfig output only 2 of the interfaces have IP's.. The other 2 are being used for redundancy? I just want to make sure I can use them seperatly ;) How much are those D-Links? I might just get one and try it.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 3:22:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.dev.itouchnet.net (devco.net [196.15.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A3437B400 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with scanned_ok (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MR0u-0004GC-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:24:04 +0200 Received: from shell.devco.net ([196.15.188.7]) by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MR0u-0004Fy-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:24:04 +0200 Received: from bvi by shell.devco.net with local (Exim 3.33 #4) id 17MR06-000E2E-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:23:14 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:23:14 +0200 From: Barry Irwin To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? Message-ID: <20020624122314.P46303@itouchlabs.com> References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624095738.GA229@heitec.net> <20020624120833.L46303@itouchlabs.com> <3D16F13E.8040503@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3D16F13E.8040503@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 08:15:26PM +1000 X-Checked: Scanned for any viruses and unauthorized attachments at mx1.dev.itouchnet.net X-iScan-ID: 16376-1024914244-53169@mx1.dev.itouchnet.net version $Name: REL_2_0_2 $ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org all four interfaces can be used, the box I pasted form just happens to not have the other two segments powered on at present. I'm using these with one U rackmounts that have a dual onboard fxp to give me a nice 6 port firewall in limited space. cards are around ZAR2800 so +_250 USD for the Dlink cards the Adaptec starfire/quartet's are around 700 GBP last one I bought On Mon 2002-06-24 (20:15), Kal Torak wrote: > > Barry Irwin wrote: > > Adaptec Quartet (starfire) cards are also a nice quad port card ( and are on > > a 64-bit PCI card) > > > > > > They use the sf driver. I have a few of these as well, but prefer theDlinks > > which are in the region of 1/4 of the cost. > > Hmmm so you can actualy use each 4 ports seperatly?? > > I see in your ifconfig output only 2 of the interfaces have > IP's.. The other 2 are being used for redundancy? I just want > to make sure I can use them seperatly ;) > > How much are those D-Links? I might just get one and try it.. > > > -- Barry Irwin bvi@itouchlabs.com +27214875177 Systems Administrator: Networks And Security Itouch Labs http://www.itouchlabs.com South Africa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 3:30:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAA037B400 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [210.49.75.34] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id pgufaaaa for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:30:22 +1000 Message-ID: <3D16F4A5.8060709@quake.com.au> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:29:57 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Irwin Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624095738.GA229@heitec.net> <20020624120833.L46303@itouchlabs.com> <3D16F13E.8040503@quake.com.au> <20020624122314.P46303@itouchlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Barry Irwin wrote: > all four interfaces can be used, the box I pasted form just happens to not > have the other two segments powered on at present. > > I'm using these with one U rackmounts that have a dual onboard fxp to give > me a nice 6 port firewall in limited space. Ahh great :) Thats exactly what my problem, need more ports in these 1U cases... Thanks for that! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 3:46:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from server.rucus.ru.ac.za (server.rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.115.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0CA637B403 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 87938 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2002 10:46:03 -0000 Received: from shell-fxp1.rucus.ru.ac.za (HELO shell.rucus.ru.ac.za) (10.0.0.1) by server.rucus.ru.ac.za with SMTP; 24 Jun 2002 10:46:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 20533 invoked by uid 10032); 24 Jun 2002 10:46:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:46:03 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?David_Sieb=F6rger?= To: Kal Torak Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? Message-ID: <20020624124603.A19969@rucus.ru.ac.za> References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <3D16F5A3.2030603@rucus.ru.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 07:11:44PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kal Torak wrote: > Just wondering if anyone has a recomendation on some > good quality duel port NICs that work well with FreeBSD?? > > Im not talking about those trunking ones.. Just plain old > multi-port NICs.. The Intel dual-port adapters work nicely. In FreeBSD, they appear as two separate fxp interfaces. In Windows, the Intel drivers support 802.3ad link aggregation but they are fundamentally two separate interfaces on one card with different MAC addresses, IRQs, etc. Here's what an Intel PRO/100 S Dual Port Server Adapter looks like: fxp0: port 0xc000-0xc03f mem 0xe8000000-0xe801ffff,0xe8041000-0xe8041fff irq 5 at device 4.0 on pci2 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:96:16:5e inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: port 0xc400-0xc43f mem 0xe8020000-0xe803ffff,0xe8040000-0xe8040fff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci2 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:96:16:5f inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto -- David Sieb๖rger drs@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 7:26:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7817D37B401 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (FreeBSD)) id 17MUmY-000GWg-00 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:25:30 +0300 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:25:30 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-ISP Subject: FREE Webmail App Message-ID: <20020624142530.GG80516@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-ISP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Fortune: "Of course power tools and alcohol don't mix. Everyone knows power tools aren't soluble in alcohol ..." -- Crazy Nigel X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 X-Best-Window-Manager: Blackbox X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 5:23PM up 21 days, 8:07, 2 users, load averages: 0.64, 0.71, 0.59 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, May I count on the experience on this list to get an application (FREE of course) that I can use to give Free webmail access the way hotmail.com does. It would be much better if it was MySQL based, gives signup options and can be virtualized (non-system users). tia -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington "The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: 254 2 313985-9 Fax: 254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD." GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig is McQ! :-) You can learn many things from children. How much patience you have, for instance. -- Franklin P. Jones To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 7:48:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.online.ie (mail.online.ie [213.159.130.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8840C37B401 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from online.ie (news.eirteic.com [62.17.159.133]); by mail.online.ie with ESMTP id DAA3119025; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:48:45 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <3D173FC5.20500@online.ie> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:50:29 +0000 From: Sascha Luck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020508 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-ISP Subject: Re: FREE Webmail App References: <20020624142530.GG80516@ns2.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi, > > May I count on the experience on this list to get an application (FREE of course) > that I can use to give Free webmail access the way hotmail.com does. It would be > much better if it was MySQL based, gives signup options and can be virtualized > (non-system users). You want Horde/IMP http://www.horde.org/imp It's in /usr/ports/www/imp as well. Does all the above. > -Wash s. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 7:53:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.britesite.net (mx1.britesite.net [63.175.65.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A8237B401 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stranger (dsl-209-81-146-23.dsl.iwc.net [209.81.146.23]) by mx1.britesite.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g5OEofF38729; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:50:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lanshark@bsinet.net) Message-ID: <015f01c21b8e$dfca7a90$0201a8c0@stranger> From: "Edward Shabotinsky" To: "Lars Thegler" , References: <004201c2192a$534d2240$0201a8c0@stranger> <005501c219f1$fbfc64b0$0200000a@marvin> Subject: Re: Netscape Directory Server 4.16 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:53:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :-) Thanks what did you do for 'arch' ? 'arch' is something for linux, right? Edward Shabotinsky System Engineer BriteSiteInet Inc. --------------------------------- lanshark@bsinet.net www.britesite.net --------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Thegler" To: Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Netscape Directory Server 4.16 > In a previous life, I've had Netscape Directory Server running on the > FreeBSD Linux-emulation. Worked like a charm. > > /Lars > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Shabotinsky" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:48 PM > Subject: Netscape Directory Server 4.16 > > > > Hi all. > > anybody have Netscape Directory Server 4.16 installed and running > > on FreeBSD 4.x? > > iPlanet has only Linux ver and i really don't like to go for it, so i was > > wondering if > > NSD will run on FBSD without problem? > > Thanks for your input. > > > > Edward Shabotinsky > > System Engineer > > BriteSiteInet Inc. > > --------------------------------- > > lanshark@bsinet.net > > www.britesite.net > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 8: 0:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from favour.one2net.co.ug (g-class.sanyutel.com [216.250.215.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF03437B401 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.one2net.co.ug [127.0.0.1]) by favour.one2net.co.ug (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2FF54833; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:59:26 +0300 (EAT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:59:26 +0300 (EAT) From: Noah K Sematimba X-X-Sender: ksemat@favour.one2net.co.ug To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-ISP Subject: Re: FREE Webmail App In-Reply-To: <20020624142530.GG80516@ns2.wananchi.com> Message-ID: <20020624175601.H73500-100000@favour.one2net.co.ug> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > much better if it was MySQL based, gives signup options and can be virtualized > (non-system users). Horde/IMP would do well enough also twig would do nicely http://twig.screwdriver.net For vitualised users you simply need an imap or pop server that understands them. IN my case courier imap/pop3 solved my problem and I use postfix with mysql users. A friend I know uses qmail with mysql and qmail-pop3d All these are viable alternatives. The webmail app should not have to know anything of your user setup since it should jsut simply pick up mail form an imap or pop server. One major reason I like horde/imp is because of the option of using imaps i.e imap over ssl. cheers, Noah. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 8:31: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (adsl-67-113-12-90.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.113.12.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BC437B40E; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morpheus.kfu.com (morpheus.kfu.com [IPv6:3ffe:1200:301b:1:2d0:b7ff:fe3f:bdd0]) by quack.kfu.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5OFTrGX017805 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by morpheus.kfu.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5OFTm9U008269; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3D173AEB.6010601@quack.kfu.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:29:47 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020606 X-Accept-Language: en, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stay away from the Znyx 4 port ZX346Q. The card is ostensibly 4 'dc' cards, but the dc driver does not properly parse the SROM to figure out what values to poke around for media selection. It's not Znyx's fault. Their SROM is legal per the spec I read, but our driver doesn't obey that spec. I bought a dual port fxp card from eBay that's been working just fine. Kal Torak wrote: > Hiyas, > > Just wondering if anyone has a recomendation on some > good quality duel port NICs that work well with FreeBSD?? > > Im not talking about those trunking ones.. Just plain old > multi-port NICs.. > > Thanks! > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 8:34:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E551E37B400; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 17MUud-00041M-00; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:33:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Kal Torak Cc: Barry Irwin , FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? In-Reply-To: <3D16E972.3080505@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Kal Torak wrote: > Barry Irwin wrote: > > Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for > > quite a while with no hastles. > > I think I looked at that card before.. > > Its 4 ports count as "one" interface dont they? It does > load balancing and redundancy..? All of these cards use the ports as separate interfaces. The load balancing and redundancy features are provided by the driver only. And the FreeBSD driver has no such support and will only let you use the ports as separate interfaces. However, I believe there is work on generic support for 802.3ad (link aggregation). Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 11:24:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD35137B401; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g5OIOEH95464; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:24:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Nick Sayer Cc: Kal Torak , FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? In-Reply-To: <3D173AEB.6010601@quack.kfu.com> Message-ID: <20020624112327.R95387-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Nick Sayer wrote: > Stay away from the Znyx 4 port ZX346Q. The card is ostensibly 4 'dc' > cards, but the dc driver does not properly parse the SROM to figure out > what values to poke around for media selection. It's not Znyx's fault. > Their SROM is legal per the spec I read, but our driver doesn't obey > that spec. Did you try the Znyx driver they provide on their website? :-) They support link failover and other goodies and have been longtime FreeBSD supporters. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 11:24:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from I-Sphere.COM (shell.i-sphere.com [209.249.146.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7BF37B406 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fasty@localhost) by I-Sphere.COM (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5OIRvk14739 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:27:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fasty) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:27:57 -0700 From: faSty To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? Message-ID: <20020624182756.GE14456@i-sphere.com> Mail-Followup-To: faSty , FreeBSD ISP References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <3D173AEB.6010601@quack.kfu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D173AEB.6010601@quack.kfu.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just get Intel Pro dual port ethernet (the freebsd use fxp device) It's rieable and best quality. Never had any problem since 2 years now. I used for the bridge/IPFW with bandwidth shaper and IDS protection. -fasty On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 08:29:47AM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote: > Stay away from the Znyx 4 port ZX346Q. The card is ostensibly 4 'dc' > cards, but the dc driver does not properly parse the SROM to figure out > what values to poke around for media selection. It's not Znyx's fault. > Their SROM is legal per the spec I read, but our driver doesn't obey > that spec. > > I bought a dual port fxp card from eBay that's been working just fine. > > Kal Torak wrote: > >Hiyas, > > > >Just wondering if anyone has a recomendation on some > >good quality duel port NICs that work well with FreeBSD?? > > > >Im not talking about those trunking ones.. Just plain old > >multi-port NICs.. > > > >Thanks! > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 16:34:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6056E37B401; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA47580; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:34:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10959; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:34:45 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200206242334.JAA10959@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD Stable Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:11:44 +1000. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:34:45 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We had good luck with the Intel dual EtherExpress Pro 100 cards, even if they do cost about 10x a single! This is still on FreeBSD 3.2 (soon, soon to be 4.6). Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: fxp1: rev 0x05 int a irq 11 on pci1.4. 0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:90:27:4c:ea:bc fxp2: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on pci1.5. 0 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:90:27:4c:ea:bd Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: fxp3: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on pci2.4. 0 fxp3: Ethernet address 00:90:27:3a:ce:6a fxp4: rev 0x05 int a irq 9 on pci2.5.0 fxp4: Ethernet address 00:90:27:3a:ce:6b (note the sequential MAC addresses) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 17: 6:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5013237B414 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [210.49.75.34] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id ijufaaaa for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:06:33 +1000 Message-ID: <3D17B3EB.2010403@quake.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:06:03 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Samplonius Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Samplonius wrote: > > All of these cards use the ports as separate interfaces. The load > balancing and redundancy features are provided by the driver only. And > the FreeBSD driver has no such support and will only let you use the ports > as separate interfaces. > > However, I believe there is work on generic support for 802.3ad (link > aggregation). Ahh ok, so its not actualy a feature of the hardware like they seem to try and make out on the web site.. Quote: "The DFE-570TX works like a single network adapter being replaced with an array of 4 adapters. The server sees one logical interface to the network. DFE-570TX provides both dynamic failover and load balancing." The server actualy see's 4 logical interfaces and the software tricks it into seeing it as 1... Well it would be nice to have the fbsd drivers get that sort of functionality but for me I just want the extra ports ;) Thanks for clearing that up! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 17:11: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AAB37B400 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [210.49.75.34] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id kjufaaaa for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:10:55 +1000 Message-ID: <3D17B4F1.7050203@quake.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:10:25 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Bond Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <200206242334.JAA10959@lightning.itga.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gregory Bond wrote: > We had good luck with the Intel dual EtherExpress Pro 100 cards, even if they > do cost about 10x a single! This is still on FreeBSD 3.2 (soon, soon to be > 4.6). I was thinking about these cards since I currently have all EtherExpress Pro 100 cards.. But for the cost of the dual port Intel I can get a 4 port D-Link or something... How they justifiy the price when its basicaly two Pro 100's stuck onto one pcb I dont know.. The manufacturing costs cant be that much more... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 19:34:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host185.dolanmedia.com (host185.dolanmedia.com [209.98.197.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60A7237B405 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 75424 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jun 2002 02:34:00 -0000 Received: from greg.panula@dolaninformation.com by proxy with qmail-scanner-0.96 (. Clean. Processed in 0.325494 secs); 25 Jun 2002 02:34:00 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: greg.panula@dolaninformation.com via proxy X-Qmail-Scanner-Rcpt-To: kaltorak@quake.com.au,bvi@itouchlabs.com,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG,freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Qmail-Scanner: 0.96 (No viruses found. Processed in 0.325494 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO mail.dolanmedia.com) (10.1.1.23) by host185.dolanmedia.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 2002 02:34:00 -0000 Received: from dolaninformation.com (10.1.1.135) by mail.dolanmedia.com (Worldmail 1.3.167); 24 Jun 2002 21:34:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3D17D697.E91515E@dolaninformation.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:33:59 -0500 From: Greg Panula Reply-To: greg.panula@dolaninformation.com Organization: Dolan Information Center Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kal Torak Cc: Barry Irwin , FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624112838.F46303@itouchlabs.com> <3D16E972.3080505@quake.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kal Torak wrote: > > Barry Irwin wrote: > > Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for > > quite a while with no hastles. > I was unable to get dlink's quad port 570TX card to work properly in an SMP kernel. The card worked fine in single cpu mode. The box I was using was a compaq DL360 and the code was freebsd-stable 4.4. I got watchdog timeouts if I remember correctly. A search thru -stable list should turn up my problems. The card & box worked fine with linux (kernel 2.2.x) both with and without SMP enabled. So, I'm not sure if it was an interupt thing or APIC thing with freebsd or just a general user head-space problem on my part. Just my two bits, Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 19:39:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F0E037B405 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 61867 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2002 02:52:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.102.18.54) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 25 Jun 2002 02:52:34 -0000 From: "Dave" To: "Kal Torak" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: RE: Good dual port NICs? Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 22:43:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3D17B4F1.7050203@quake.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I imagine its a matter of quantity like everything else... if it costs $10k to setup, design and manufacturer a card over 100 cards = $100 per card plus componants. over 100,000 cards = $0.01 per card plus cost of componants. Would imagine demand for multiport NIC's isn't as great as simple single ports. or, (and more likely) just a way for them to make more profit since server folk are more likely to spend money on what is perceived to be better product (note Cisco) just thoughts have usedwhat I am assuming is a similar chipset on the Intel server boards (on board nics) with no problem. Have not stacked multiport nic cards on top of it though. cheers, Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kal Torak >Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:10 PM >To: Gregory Bond >Cc: FreeBSD ISP >Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? > > >Gregory Bond wrote: >> We had good luck with the Intel dual EtherExpress Pro 100 cards, >even if they >> do cost about 10x a single! This is still on FreeBSD 3.2 (soon, soon to be >> 4.6). >I was thinking about these cards since I currently have all >EtherExpress Pro 100 cards.. But for the cost of the dual port >Intel I can get a 4 port D-Link or something... > >How they justifiy the price when its basicaly two Pro 100's >stuck onto one pcb I dont know.. The manufacturing costs cant >be that much more... > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 20: 7: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [208.8.16.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27BEF37B403 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 85490 invoked by uid 1825); 25 Jun 2002 03:06:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2002 03:06:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:06:44 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Greg Panula Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? In-Reply-To: <3D17D697.E91515E@dolaninformation.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Greg Panula wrote: > Kal Torak wrote: > > > > Barry Irwin wrote: > > > Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for > > > quite a while with no hastles. > > > > I was unable to get dlink's quad port 570TX card to work properly in an > SMP kernel. The card worked fine in single cpu mode. The box I was > using was a compaq DL360 and the code was freebsd-stable 4.4. I got > watchdog timeouts if I remember correctly. A search thru -stable list > should turn up my problems. > > The card & box worked fine with linux (kernel 2.2.x) both with and > without SMP enabled. > > So, I'm not sure if it was an interupt thing or APIC thing with freebsd > or just a general user head-space problem on my part. Interesting, I had the *exact* same problem with an SMP kernel built on 4.6RC-1 with a Tyan Tiger's on-board 3C920c (3C905c driver). It never occured to me that it might be linked to SMP in any way, so I just returned it and used an Intel L440GX. May not be anywhere near as fast, but they always work... James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 24 22:58: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (daemon.kr.freebsd.org [211.176.62.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EF737B411 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 22:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gradius.wdb.co.kr (daemon [211.176.62.31]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CAC8F612; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 14:57:09 +0900 (KST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gradius.wdb.co.kr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5P5uvxH033031; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 14:57:05 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from cjh@kr.FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 14:56:56 +0900 (KST) Message-Id: <20020625.145656.35664200.cjh@kr.FreeBSD.org> To: mark@mics.co.za Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel PRO/1000 problem with 4.5R From: CHOI Junho In-Reply-To: References: <20020618.163142.98892204.cjh@kr.FreeBSD.org> Organization: Korea FreeBSD Users Gruop X-URL: http://www.kr.FreeBSD.org/~cjh X-Mailer: Mew version 3.0.55 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I changed it to empty IRQ 5(parallel disabled instead). Under certain condition(>200Mbit/sec), it showed watchdog timeout again. :< Currently I am happy with MTU 1500. It can reach 501Mbit/sec... From: Mark Bojara Subject: Re: Intel PRO/1000 problem with 4.5R Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:52:22 +0200 (SAST) > Hello, > > This usually happens when there is a IRQ conflict or a problem assigning > an IRQ to your network card. Try setting a IRQ in your bios for that PCI > slot. > > Regards > Mark > -- +++ Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my employers +++ CHOI Junho [sleeping now] [while sleeping] Korea FreeBSD Users Group Web Data Bank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 25 1:49:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alogis.com (firewall.solit-ag.de [212.184.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7E837B400; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 01:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alogis.com (kipp@clausthal.int1.b.intern [10.1.1.30]) by alogis.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g5P8mLF88012; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:48:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from holger.kipp@alogis.com) Message-ID: <3D182E49.D5E86F50@alogis.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:48:09 +0200 From: Holger Kipp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: greg.panula@dolaninformation.com Cc: Kal Torak , Barry Irwin , FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624112838.F46303@itouchlabs.com> <3D16E972.3080505@quake.com.au> <3D17D697.E91515E@dolaninformation.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Panula wrote: > > Kal Torak wrote: > > > > Barry Irwin wrote: > > > Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for > > > quite a while with no hastles. > > > > I was unable to get dlink's quad port 570TX card to work properly in an > SMP kernel. The card worked fine in single cpu mode. The box I was > using was a compaq DL360 and the code was freebsd-stable 4.4. I got > watchdog timeouts if I remember correctly. A search thru -stable list > should turn up my problems. We're using three of them in one system (no SMP) without any problems. > So, I'm not sure if it was an interupt thing or APIC thing with freebsd > or just a general user head-space problem on my part. I'd bet it was a problem with shared irqs (and IO-APIC-support). Could you provide some more information (if you still have them?). Just so I can collect more data / evidence on this. Problem Report or anything? 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------=_NextPart_000_0205_01C21C67.C7D305E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 25 6: 6:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ecotech.com.lr (mail.liberiaonline.com.lr [64.110.100.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D86537B405 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 06:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4352 invoked by uid 85); 25 Jun 2002 13:04:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wireless) (64.110.100.166) by mail.liberiaonline.com.lr with SMTP; 25 Jun 2002 13:04:42 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c21c48$e3108950$04ef10ac@wireless> From: "Max" To: Subject: Squid Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 13:04:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C21C48.E1015860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C21C48.E1015860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Anyone got any idea why my default installation of squid keeps = restarting each time i access the proxy? I just did a fresh install of squid-2.4.STABLE1 according to instruction = @ http://squid-docs.sourceforge.net/latest/ But whenever I access the proxy it gives this: . . . 2002/06/25 13:03:50| Ready to serve requests. 2002/06/25 13:04:00| Not currently OK to rewrite swap log. 2002/06/25 13:04:00| storeDirWriteCleanLogs: Operation aborted. 2002/06/25 13:04:03| Starting Squid Cache version 2.4.STABLE1 for = prefix=3D/usr/local/squid... and starts the process all over, never completely answering a request! Max ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C21C48.E1015860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Anyone got any idea why my default = installation of=20 squid keeps restarting each time i access the proxy?
 
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and starts the process all over, never = completely=20 answering a request!
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C21C48.E1015860-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 25 8: 3:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (mail.epcdirect.co.uk [195.10.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B482137B401 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.epcdirect.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8AA467E2; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:03:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from lfarr (l-farr.int.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.6.200]) by jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B95467E1; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:03:03 +0100 (BST) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "'Max'" , Subject: RE: Squid Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:03:03 +0100 Message-ID: <003201c21c59$67c66ec0$c806a8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-reply-to: <001201c21c48$e3108950$04ef10ac@wireless> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by EPC-Direct (jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try the port. It'll "Just Work". Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Max Sent: 25 June 2002 14:05 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Squid Hi, Anyone got any idea why my default installation of squid keeps restarting each time i access the proxy? I just did a fresh install of squid-2.4.STABLE1 according to instruction @ http://squid-docs.sourceforge.net/latest/ But whenever I access the proxy it gives this: . . . 2002/06/25 13:03:50| Ready to serve requests. 2002/06/25 13:04:00| Not currently OK to rewrite swap log. 2002/06/25 13:04:00| storeDirWriteCleanLogs: Operation aborted. 2002/06/25 13:04:03| Starting Squid Cache version 2.4.STABLE1 for prefix=/usr/local/squid... and starts the process all over, never completely answering a request! Max To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 25 11:39:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bugs.elitsat.net (bugs.elitsat.net [213.208.10.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E94137B400; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bugs.elitsat.net (amour@localhost.elitsat.net [127.0.0.1]) by bugs.elitsat.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5PId3pi004455; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:39:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from amour@bugs.elitsat.net) Received: from localhost (amour@localhost) by bugs.elitsat.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g5PId0dC004452; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:39:02 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:38:59 +0300 (EEST) From: Alexander To: Cc: Subject: ipfw question Message-ID: <20020625212231.U4383-100000@bugs.elitsat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have few clients which should share 1 channel of 256Kbit/s and each one of them should have max 64Kbit/s. The idea is like 5-6 clients to share 256Kbit/s I do the following pipe configs ipfw pipe 1 config bw 64Kbit/s queue 5 ... ipfw pipe 6 config bw 64Kbit/s queue 5 ipfw pipe 7 config bw 256Kbit/s queue 5 ipfw add pipe 1 all from any to any via tun0 ipfw add pipe 7 all from any to any via tun0 ... ... ipfw add pipe 6 all from any to any via tun5 ipfw add pipe 7 all from any to any via tun5 (Each client has a tunnel) And what happens is that packets only go to the first rule and everyone have 64k but they don't share one 256k/s channel Is there a way doing this without using sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass ? thanks P.S. I'll be glad if someone responds as quick as possible. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 25 12: 3:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from patriarch.dnsalias.org (adsl-66-140-18-199.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [66.140.18.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1318937B764; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compgeek ([127.0.0.1]) by patriarch.dnsalias.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Tue, 25 Jun 2002 14:01:50 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Jon Noack" To: "Alexander" , Cc: , Subject: RE: ipfw question Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 14:01:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020625212231.U4383-100000@bugs.elitsat.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2002 19:01:50.0817 (UTC) FILETIME=[C34FCD10:01C21C7A] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not that I know of (isn't that the point of fw.one_pass -- it only matches one rule). Why don't you want to use fw.one_pass? (If it's because you're using bridging I may be able to help) Jon Use the freebsd-ipfw list. I've sent them this message as well. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alexander Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 1:39 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw question Hello, I have few clients which should share 1 channel of 256Kbit/s and each one of them should have max 64Kbit/s. The idea is like 5-6 clients to share 256Kbit/s I do the following pipe configs ipfw pipe 1 config bw 64Kbit/s queue 5 ... ipfw pipe 6 config bw 64Kbit/s queue 5 ipfw pipe 7 config bw 256Kbit/s queue 5 ipfw add pipe 1 all from any to any via tun0 ipfw add pipe 7 all from any to any via tun0 ... ... ipfw add pipe 6 all from any to any via tun5 ipfw add pipe 7 all from any to any via tun5 (Each client has a tunnel) And what happens is that packets only go to the first rule and everyone have 64k but they don't share one 256k/s channel Is there a way doing this without using sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass ? thanks P.S. I'll be glad if someone responds as quick as possible. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 25 15:29:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web12107.mail.yahoo.com (web12107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8546E37B401 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020625222909.61604.qmail@web12107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.10.208] by web12107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:29:09 PDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Kachler Subject: f-prot To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All. We're planning to buy F-Prot Enterprise virus scanner. We're considering it because it is inexpensive and the features seem to be what we need. It is for Linux. Anybody knows if it runs well on FreeBSD with Linux emulation? Thanks. Arie Kachler SysAdmin/Telcom.Net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 25 18: 8:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tesla.foo.is (tesla.reverse-bias.org [217.151.166.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270D037B40D for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (eniac.foo.is [192.168.1.25]) by tesla.foo.is (Postfix) with SMTP id 6464F2731; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:06:29 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Baldur Gislason To: Arie Kachler Subject: Re: f-prot Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:04:50 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020625222909.61604.qmail@web12107.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020625222909.61604.qmail@web12107.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020626010629.6464F2731@tesla.foo.is> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Works fine, you do have to mark the binary as a Linux binary to make it run (brandelf -T Linux ) Baldur On Tuesday 25 June 2002 22:29, you wrote: > Hi All. > We're planning to buy F-Prot Enterprise virus scanner. > We're considering it because it is inexpensive and the > features seem to be > what we need. > It is for Linux. > Anybody knows if it runs well on FreeBSD with Linux > emulation? > > Thanks. > > Arie Kachler > SysAdmin/Telcom.Net > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 25 22:53:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mipk-kspu.kharkov.ua (flash.mipk-kspu.kharkov.ua [194.44.157.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EE337B404 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mipk-kspu.kharkov.ua (rainbow.mipk-kspu.kharkov.ua [192.168.9.241]) by mail.mipk-kspu.kharkov.ua (8.12.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g5Q5oQFd068673; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:50:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from artem@mipk-kspu.kharkov.ua) Message-ID: <3D195621.BF8BD874@mipk-kspu.kharkov.ua> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:50:25 +0300 From: "Artyom V. Viklenko" Organization: IIAT NTU "KhPI" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,uk,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw question References: <20020625212231.U4383-100000@bugs.elitsat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexander wrote: > > Hello, > I have few clients which should share 1 channel of 256Kbit/s and each one > of them should have max 64Kbit/s. > The idea is like 5-6 clients to share 256Kbit/s > > I do the following pipe configs > > ipfw pipe 1 config bw 64Kbit/s queue 5 > ... > ipfw pipe 6 config bw 64Kbit/s queue 5 > ipfw pipe 7 config bw 256Kbit/s queue 5 You set 6 clients with 64kbit/s limits, so each client will never reach higher bandwidth! In this case IMHO you didn't need pipe 7 with 256 kbit/s. But if you want more than 6 clients with max bandwidth at 64kbit/s and 256kbit/s total limit, then you have to set up queue with pipe for 256 kbit/s. In this case pipe will force max. total bandwidth and queue will enforce policy to reduce bandwidth for each client. For examle if you will have 12 clients each of them can transfer data with speed up to 64kbit/s alone. But if all clients will transfer data simultaneously they got, for example, 32kbit/s, if you set equal priority for each client. And if you set them different priority some clients can have guaranted 64 and some clients will have less guaranted speed ( say 28 or less kbit/s ). Read man page for ipfw for more explanation of traffic shaping. And you need to set net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass to 0 in order to walk through several pipes but not just one. > > ipfw add pipe 1 all from any to any via tun0 > ipfw add pipe 7 all from any to any via tun0 > ... > ... > ipfw add pipe 6 all from any to any via tun5 > ipfw add pipe 7 all from any to any via tun5 > > (Each client has a tunnel) > > And what happens is that packets only go to the first rule > and everyone have 64k but they don't share one 256k/s channel > > Is there a way doing this without using sysctl variable > net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass > ? > > thanks > > P.S. I'll be glad if someone responds as quick as possible. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Sincerely yours, Artyom V. Viklenko. ====================================================== System Administrator artem@mipk-kspu.kharkov.ua ------------------------------------------------------ IIAT NTU "KhPI" 21, Frunze Str., Kharkov Ukraine 61002 Phone: +380 (572) 400026 Fax: +380 (572) 474062 ====================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 26 4:29:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web20103.mail.yahoo.com (web20103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AEC337B407 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 04:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020626112928.9151.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.227.212.161] by web20103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:29:28 CEST Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:29:28 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: Re: FREE Webmail App To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-ISP In-Reply-To: <20020624142530.GG80516@ns2.wananchi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello Wash. you are absolutely looking for IMP (part of HORDE) at www.horde.org Bye --- Odhiambo Washington ha scritto: > Hi, > > May I count on the experience on this list to get an > application (FREE of course) > that I can use to give Free webmail access the way > hotmail.com does. It would be > much better if it was MySQL based, gives signup > options and can be virtualized > (non-system users). > > tia > > > -Wash > > -- > Odhiambo Washington "The box > said 'Requires > Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows > 95, NT, or better,' > Tel: 254 2 313985-9 Fax: 254 2 313922 so I > installed FreeBSD." > GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig > is McQ! :-) > > > You can learn many things from children. How much > patience you have, > for instance. > -- Franklin P. Jones > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ Scarica il nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: con webcam, nuove faccine e tante altre novitเ. http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.messenger.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 26 5:29:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from psknet.com (voyager.psknet.com [63.171.251.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D67BC37B407 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 05:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 85067 invoked by uid 85); 26 Jun 2002 12:22:25 -0000 Received: from troy@psknet.com by voyager.psknet.com with qmail-scanner-1.02 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4100. . Clean. Processed in 0.447174 secs); 26 Jun 2002 12:22:25 -0000 Received: from 64-4-124-138.dmt.ntelos.net (HELO abyss) (gunk@64.4.124.138) by voyager.psknet.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2002 12:22:24 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'Wincent Colaiuta'" , Cc: "'Hans-Joachim Picht'" Subject: RE: Bandwidth billing and measurement scripts Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:29:35 -0400 Message-ID: <001e01c21d0d$22715bf0$8a7c0440@psknet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1B02AF4B-8669-11D6-A31E-003065C60B4C@mac.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wincent, Have you looked at cflowd for monitoring the flows through your router? This can track by IP address and protocol. There are some interesting tools built around rrdtool that can generate some very nifty graphs/reports. Check it out, it's in the ports collection. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 http://www.psknet.com =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Wincent Colaiuta > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 1:22 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: Hans-Joachim Picht > Subject: Re: Bandwidth billing and measurement scripts >=20 >=20 > El Sunday, 23 June, 2002, a las 04:45 AM, Hans-Joachim Picht=20 > escribi=F3: >=20 > >> What I'd like it to do: > >> - run as an hourly cron job > >> - count incoming and outgoing bandwidth user per IP based on ipfw > >> "count" rules - this should give a totally accurate traffic count > >> without the need to resort to parsing mail, http and ftp=20 > logs (which > >> could get very messy) > >> - save ipfw output to disc for safe keeping > > > > A tool for that is already available. http://www.simon.org.ua/ipa/ >=20 > Thanks for the reply Hans. I had already checked out IPA and=20 > found that=20 > it wasn't quite what I was looking for. I had two main=20 > problems with it:=20 > firstly it was written in C, and I don't know C so I can't=20 > modify it or=20 > add to it to make it how I would like; and secondly, I'm not=20 > so sure I'm=20 > entirely happy with how deep it digs down into the kernel.=20 > From the IPA=20 > FAQ: >=20 > > If you installed a new kernel or made some changes in the=20 > kernel, then=20 > > you should also rebuild ipa(8), becase it uses kernel=20 > structures and=20 > > they can be changed from one version of the operating=20 > system to another=20 > > one, but see below. >=20 > Don't really feel like having to worry about my billing and invoicing=20 > system breaking down when I rebuild the kernel. That's why I want to=20 > stick with basic user-land accessible tools like Perl, sh and=20 > ipfw. In=20 > any case, I've done most of the scripting for my custom=20 > solution anyway=20 > now. >=20 > Cheers > Wincent >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 26 15:56:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ambrisko.com (adsl-64-174-51-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.174.51.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25E437B490; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by ambrisko.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5QL2nc04219; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <200206262102.g5QL2nc04219@ambrisko.com> Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? In-Reply-To: <20020624112838.F46303@itouchlabs.com> To: Barry Irwin Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Kal Torak , FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Barry Irwin writes: | Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for | quite a while with no hastles. Unfortunately they are being obsoleted with a card that doesn't work well. I have some local patches to make the 580-TX card work better but still it has issues when receiving data and performace dies. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 27 2:20:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host185.dolanmedia.com (host185.dolanmedia.com [209.98.197.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EABA37B405 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 02:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 76601 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jun 2002 09:20:33 -0000 Received: from greg.panula@dolaninformation.com by proxy with qmail-scanner-0.96 (. Clean. Processed in 0.331606 secs); 27 Jun 2002 09:20:33 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: greg.panula@dolaninformation.com via proxy X-Qmail-Scanner-Rcpt-To: holger.kipp@alogis.com,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG,freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Qmail-Scanner: 0.96 (No viruses found. Processed in 0.331606 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO mail.dolanmedia.com) (10.1.1.23) by host185.dolanmedia.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2002 09:20:33 -0000 Received: from dolaninformation.com (10.1.1.135) by mail.dolanmedia.com (Worldmail 1.3.167); 27 Jun 2002 04:20:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3D1AD8E0.550F0076@dolaninformation.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 04:20:32 -0500 From: Greg Panula Reply-To: greg.panula@dolaninformation.com Organization: Dolan Information Center Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Holger Kipp Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <3D16E250.9080004@quake.com.au> <20020624112838.F46303@itouchlabs.com> <3D16E972.3080505@quake.com.au> <3D17D697.E91515E@dolaninformation.com> <3D182E49.D5E86F50@alogis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Holger Kipp wrote: > [...] > > I'd bet it was a problem with shared irqs (and IO-APIC-support). Could you > provide some more information (if you still have them?). Just so I can collect > more data / evidence on this. > > Problem Report or anything? > Nope, didn't open a problem report on it. My original post with dmesg output is available at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1369103+1382097+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-questions/20020210.freebsd-questions I should be able try again with the same kind of hardware and card(physically different box & card but still a dl360 & 570) the week after July 4th. Anything in particular you would like to see and/or have me try? Cheers, Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 27 2:36:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFABC37B408 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 02:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [210.49.75.34] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id uvufaaaa for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:36:27 +1000 Message-ID: <3D1ADC77.9030508@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:35:51 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Ambrisko Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Good dual port NICs? References: <200206262102.g5QL2nc04219@ambrisko.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Ambrisko wrote: > Barry Irwin writes: > | Not Dual port, but I have been using the quad port dlink 570-TX cards for > | quite a while with no hastles. > > Unfortunately they are being obsoleted with a card that doesn't work well. > I have some local patches to make the 580-TX card work better but still > it has issues when receiving data and performace dies. Hmm thats no good at all.. My supplier has already sold all their 570's and wont be getting any more in favour of the new 580's.. Is this a known problem? Anyone filed a PR? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 27 18:47:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADAD37B400 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (smtp-relay02-en1 [10.13.10.225]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g5S1lL56024879 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g5S1lGrE004367 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cannondale.elcentro.red ([202.45.118.108]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GYE7MR00.NBV for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 18:47:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:17:12 +0930 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Apache + disk quotas loophole? From: Wincent Colaiuta To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a loophole in using disk quotas with apache? Imagine I have a customer (user: johntest) limited to 100MB disk space using filesystem quotas. He won't be able to upload files via ftp if it would take him over the limit, nor can he create files from the shell. But if his website is dynamic and apache is writing files to the disk for him (pages, files etc), won't they be created as user "nobody" or "www" files (or whatever the server is running as) and hence will they be omitted from the quota restriction? I have one site which only has about four files uploaded into the public_html directory, and the rest of the pages (hundreds of them) were all created by apache using a webinterface. Do only the four uploaded files get counted in the quota? If it is true that this is a loophole, how would I plug it? Any ideas? And a related question... how would I include MySQL storage in the quota also? (Same problem there, all MySQL db files are owned by "mysql"). Cheers Wincent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 28 4:27:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A5A37B405 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 04:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tchpc01.tcd.ie (tchpc01.tcd.ie [134.226.10.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A6843E06 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 04:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bobb+freebsd-isp@redbrick.dcu.ie) Received: from flipflop.tchpc.tcd.ie (hpc04.iss.tcd.ie [134.226.10.47]) by tchpc01.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A132356C; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:37:44 +0100 (IST) Received: by flipflop.tchpc.tcd.ie (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D4604192; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:27:38 +0100 (IST) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:27:38 +0100 From: Robert bobb Crosbie To: Wincent Colaiuta Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache + disk quotas loophole? Message-ID: <20020628112738.GA65863@lummux.tchpc.tcd.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: bobb Industries Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wincent Colaiuta hath declared on Friday the 28 day of June 2002 :-: > But if his website is dynamic and apache is writing files to the disk > for him (pages, files etc), won't they be created as user "nobody" or > "www" files (or whatever the server is running as) and hence will they > be omitted from the quota restriction? Yeah pretty much, You could enable the SuEXEC wrapper in apache so that the cgi's run as the user who ownes them, then the files they create will also be owned by that user. > And a related question... how would I include MySQL storage in the quota > also? (Same problem there, all MySQL db files are owned by "mysql"). I don't know of any direct way to do this through mysql. (mysql.com is also down at the moment...) You could put a filesize limit on the mysql processes so that no db files could grow above that size, I immagine that this would have a negative effect on mysql once they reached that size. You could try changing the owner.group of the database files to username.group and have them group writeable so that mysqld can write to them, you would have to do this manually whenever a database or table was created, which would mean that you would have to restrict the create table privilage from your users. (perhaps a CGI wrapper...) This would probably have a negative effect on mysql when the quota is reached. - bobb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 28 7:35:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5072E37B40C for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caturix.genilog.net (mx1.mtl.distributel.net [66.38.181.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C08743E09 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@colba.net) Received: from colba.net (nat.MTL.distributel.NET [66.38.181.24]) by caturix.genilog.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id KAA13131 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:34:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3D1C752D.6462BC88@colba.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:39:41 -0400 From: Paul Khavkine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: NIS Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks. Anyone using NIS on their FreeBSD boxen ? I seem to be having problem binding to the server that has 2 NIC's and 2 IP's on different subnets. Anyone done tha kinda thing before ? Thanx Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 28 7:51:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC4937B401 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxb.saturn-tech.com (mxb.saturn-tech.com [207.229.19.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180F043E09 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 07:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from mxb.saturn-tech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxb.saturn-tech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5SEpg7E035377; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:51:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from localhost (drussell@localhost) by mxb.saturn-tech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g5SEpfrL035374; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:51:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mxb.saturn-tech.com: drussell owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:51:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Doug Russell To: Paul Khavkine Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NIS Question In-Reply-To: <3D1C752D.6462BC88@colba.net> Message-ID: <20020628085017.V13543-100000@mxa.saturn-tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Paul Khavkine wrote: > Hi folks. > > Anyone using NIS on their FreeBSD boxen ? .. > Anyone done tha kinda thing before ? Yup > I seem to be having problem binding to the server that has 2 NIC's and 2 > IP's on different subnets. It might help if you told us what the problem was. ;) Later...... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 28 8: 9:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD0037B405 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stella.pyramus.com (stella.pyramus.com [206.129.206.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA5C43E0F for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blake@pyramus.com) Received: from pyramus.com (dark-star.pyramus.com [206.129.206.6]) by stella.pyramus.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g5SFJpP72694; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blake@pyramus.com) Message-ID: <3D1C7C5C.8050507@pyramus.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:10:20 -0700 From: Blake Swensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020314 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khavkine Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NIS Question References: <3D1C752D.6462BC88@colba.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do the different NICs have different host names Although I have never done this on FreeBSD, I have accomplished this same thing on solaris. Please NOTE: I am only babbling theory as I have never done this on FreeBSD. The trick is making sure that the different nics are on truely different networks and have different hostnames. example hosts: 192.168.1.1 firstnic.mydomain.com 192.168.2.1 secondnic.mydomain.com /var/yp/ypservers on server machine: firstnic.mydomain.com secondnic.mydomain.com Your server must have a server to bind to, even if it is itself so pick one in /etc/rc.conf on the server: nisdomainname="mydomain.com" nis_server_enable="YES" nis_yppasswdd_enable="YES" nis_yppasswdd_flags="-t /var/yp/master.passwd -v" nis_client_enable="YES" nis_client_flags="-S mydomain.com,firstnic.mydomain.com" Then for clients you simply bind them to the appropriate NIC using the ypbind in /etc/rc.conf like: nisdomainname="mydomain.com" nis_client_enable="YES" nis_client_flags="-S mydomain.com,firstnic.mydomain.com" # OR Depending on the network of the client #nis_client_flags="-S mydomain.com,secondnic.mydomain.com" Hope this helps. Peace, Blake Paul Khavkine wrote: > Hi folks. > > Anyone using NIS on their FreeBSD boxen ? > I seem to be having problem binding to the server that has 2 NIC's and 2 > IP's on different subnets. > Anyone done tha kinda thing before ? > > Thanx > Paul > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 28 8:14:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FF137B407 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caturix.genilog.net (mx1.mtl.distributel.net [66.38.181.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAE743E06 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@colba.net) Received: from colba.net (nat.MTL.distributel.NET [66.38.181.24]) by caturix.genilog.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id LAA15345; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:14:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3D1C7E5C.8E0A409C@colba.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:18:52 -0400 From: Paul Khavkine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Russell Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NIS Question References: <20020628085017.V13543-100000@mxa.saturn-tech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Russell wrote: I have a server running ypserv with 2 nics one on 10.14.56.14 and the other on 10.14.61.93 I can bind from the boxes sitting on 10.14.56.x subnet but not from 10.14.61.x I was able to bind sometimes and sometins i got an icmp flud from ypserv. Thanx Paul > On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Paul Khavkine wrote: > > > Hi folks. > > > > Anyone using NIS on their FreeBSD boxen ? > .. > > Anyone done tha kinda thing before ? > > Yup > > > I seem to be having problem binding to the server that has 2 NIC's and 2 > > IP's on different subnets. > > It might help if you told us what the problem was. ;) > > Later...... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 28 12: 8: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC88D37B408 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.ksc.th.com (mail3.ksc.th.com [203.155.0.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6856543E0A for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:07:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from easytoberich01@yahoo.com) Received: from ksc.th.com ([203.107.246.47]) by mail3.ksc.th.com (8.12.1/8.12.0) with SMTP id g5SIYR1M007846 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 02:07:43 +0700 Message-Id: <200206281907.g5SIYR1M007846@mail3.ksc.th.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 02:09:47 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org From: easytoberich01@yahoo.com (international e-business) Subject: สำหรับผู้ที่ต้องการโอกาสในการเปลี่ยนแปลงชีวิต Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org !!!!! 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