From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 3 6:55:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 005B137B400 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 06:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (202.1.200.78) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2002 14:55:33 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "'Denny Jodeit'" , Subject: RE: Book Suggestions for a newbie Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 19:55:16 +0500 Message-ID: <000001c1acc2$d106ef10$4ec801ca@warhawk> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <007c01c1ac1a$1ae50b70$6f830acf@gdennyj> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org *snip* > > It's a great second book (after Ms. Anderson's excellent > book). Ms. > > Anderson's doesn't go that deeply into Apache or Samba > (both of which, > > in my experience work fairly well out of the box) but is a great > > reference Wrt samba and apache, I've had mixed results, and I think I'll just mention how my initial experiences were just for the record. Apache didn't give me too much trouble for simple stuff, but for more complicated stuff like cgi's and what not, do be prepared to read the manual 4 or 5 times, check permissions, reconfigure and rinse repeat as necessary. (tip: Do make a backup config copy of the config file) As for samba, in my experience, most misery is caused by win9x clients. I've not had any serious issues with NT clients, and the samba docco is really extensive and included step by step trouble shooting instructions should shit happen... :) Do be prepared to burn retina while reading said extensive docco. (which lives in /usr/local/share/doc/samba, IIRC) Go forth and conquer... *snip* _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Feb 3 11:47:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.takas.lt (mail-src.takas.lt [212.59.31.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AB037B416 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 11:47:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from praba ([212.59.27.199]) by mail.takas.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:47:11 +0200 From: "Francisco Borggia" To: Subject: Something missing Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:45:23 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C1ACFC.15C73F40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2002 19:47:12.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[92C30170:01C1ACEB] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C1ACFC.15C73F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tell me somebody please what mean warnings like these: " /kernel: file: table is full" "/kernel:le:table is full" "/var/run/utmp:too many files in system" I get them after gnome desktop is started. System FreeBSD 4.4 is freshly installed. but neither gnome nor Netscape Navigator work properly despite that ppp connection with ISP is established. Thanks for previous answers. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1AD76.1BCC3B00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 4 10:34:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bcn.isoco.net (ldap.isoco.net [212.9.90.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BA037B400 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fxn.bcn.isoco.net (fxn.bcn.isoco.net [172.16.1.50]) by smtp.bcn.isoco.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EF54CD2B6; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:34:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:34:09 +0100 From: F.Xavier Noria To: "Basilio Delgado" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hola ! Message-Id: <20020204193409.7632557e.fxn@isoco.com> In-Reply-To: <000801c1ada8$684444a0$a3cfdf94@conexiondigital.net.mx> References: <000801c1ada8$684444a0$a3cfdf94@conexiondigital.net.mx> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:18:52 -0600 "Basilio Delgado" wrote: : Hola ! si deseo acceder a la lista de principiantes, pero me agradaría a un más si existiese en español. : Gracias! Puedes dirigir tus consultas a freebsd@es.freebsd.org. Para subscribirte envia un mensaje a majordomo@es.freebsd.org con una linea en el cuerpo: subscribe freebsd@es.freebsd.org Por si no lo conocieras, este sitio puede que te sea util: http://www.eldemonio.org/ creo que tienen una lista sobre BSDs en castellano. -- fxn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 4 10:38:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35DA37B42C for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch00.acuson.com ([157.226.230.212]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA5032; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:38:20 -0800 Received: by mvaexch00.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:33:29 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-100.acuson.com [157.226.46.100]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVDFM20; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:28:48 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Phillip Rhodes , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: simple upgrade question? Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:38:05 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020201215230.00a712b0@mail.telerama.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020201215230.00a712b0@mail.telerama.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020204183823.D35DA37B42C@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 01 February 2002 06:53 pm, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > Hi, > I am running version 3.4 and want to upgrade. > Do I just run the /stand/sysinstall that is on my system now, or do I > download the new version (that I want to upgrade to) and run it's > sysinstall? Any how-to on upgrading would be appreciated! I prefer upgrading from source, and the handbook has lots of info on this. If you don't want to build from source, you can use your current sysinstall if you first set the correct release name in the options screen. Ask this question on -questions as well. You find many more people there with experience in upgrading. There may be numerous tarpits they can help you avoid that we newbies have never encountered simply because we're newbies. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 4 11:55:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hoemail1.firewall.lucent.com (hoemail1.lucent.com [192.11.226.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CA037B416 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvmail.mv.lucent.com (h135-13-96-58.lucent.com [135.13.96.58]) by hoemail1.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id g14JtFf23176 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lucent.com (yy189.mv.lucent.com [135.13.195.30]) by mvmail.mv.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id OAA29614; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:55:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C5EE849.C6443DB@lucent.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:00:09 -0500 From: jlr Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.5 (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Missing files on Installation CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To whom it may concern, I recently purchased the FreeBSD Power Pack 4.2 from Staples in Bedford NH. When I tried to install the system, I found, much to my dismay, that the installation CD was missing critical files needed to install the kernel. When viewing the CD contents and comparing them with the table on page 27 & 28 of the manual, I found that the View.exe file and the Setup.exe along with the Install.exe files were missing from the CD. There were numerous other files missing from the CD that the table showed. I returned the software to the store and when they looked at another box, they found the same problem. Needless to say, I was very disappointed that I had spent all that time and effort and never got off the ground. (Thank goodness the Patriots won the Super Bowl that night). I am at this point completely disillusioned with FreeBSD. I hope that someone takes the time to look into the possibility that other stores may have been delivered the same packages. Jacques Ricard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 4 13:26:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4579E37B42F for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch00.acuson.com ([157.226.230.212]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA3007; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:26:44 -0800 Received: by mvaexch00.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:21:52 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-100.acuson.com [157.226.46.100]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVDFN3N; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:17:17 -0800 From: Johnson David To: jlr , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Missing files on Installation CD Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:26:33 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <3C5EE849.C6443DB@lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <3C5EE849.C6443DB@lucent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020204212648.4579E37B42F@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 04 February 2002 12:00 pm, jlr wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > I recently purchased the FreeBSD Power Pack 4.2 > from Staples in Bedford NH. When I tried to install > the system, I found, much to my dismay, that the > installation CD was missing critical files needed > to install the kernel. When viewing the CD contents > and comparing them with the table on page 27 & 28 > of the manual, I found that the View.exe file and > the Setup.exe along with the Install.exe files were > missing from the CD. There were numerous other files > missing from the CD that the table showed. I'm not familiar with the Power Pack, so I don't know what it's supposed to have in it. However, I have never had a problem with any of the FreeBSD "normal" 4-CD sets. However, I seem to recall an issue about the view.exe, setup.exe and install.exe files being the property of Walnut Creek CDROM. The 4.2 Power Pack was not a Walnut Creek release, but a BSDi release. I suspect that the documentation didn't get updated as thoroughly as the CDs. Slackware Linux had the same problem. These files are *not* required to install FreeBSD. They are not a part of the official FreeBSD release. The Handbook will give you all the installation instruction you will need. > I am at this point completely disillusioned with FreeBSD. > I hope that someone takes the time to look into the possibility > that other stores may have been delivered the same packages. Don't be disillusioned over something so trivial. The Power Pack was originally a Walnut Creek packaging, and not an official FreeBSD project. FreeBSD had nothing to do with it. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 5 7:34:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6CD37B43B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 07:34:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust137.tnt1.pikeville.ky.da.uu.net ([63.24.70.137] helo=celeron.iname.com) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Y7bs-00000b-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 05 Feb 2002 07:34:17 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020205101802.0378ac00@us23.com> X-Sender: all@us23.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 10:32:14 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ralph King Subject: dos based email client, dos emulation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know where I can find a dos based application that can dial into a FreeBSD server to get and send mail on the local server? It needs to be as simple to use as possible. I want to replace a system currently using Worldgroup client software running on Windows 3.11 I would prefer to completely avoid Windows and keep the users away from any ability to execute dos commands. I would really like to be able to replace the dos with FreeBSD. How well does dos emulation work in FreeBSD? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 5 9:22:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web12507.mail.yahoo.com (web12507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8232737B438 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:22:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020205172213.76912.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.91.132.126] by web12507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Feb 2002 09:22:13 PST Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:22:13 -0800 (PST) From: Marcia Barrett Nice Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie To: Nik Clayton , Mike Kanaly Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions-digest@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020202113314.B5732@clan.nothing-going-on.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Nik Clayton wrote: > [ At last -- a post that's on topic ] > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:46:06PM -0800, Mike > Kanaly wrote: > > I'm wondering which books would be best in > explaining what I need from > > freebsd. I'm a newbie, and I'm planning on using > freebsd to serve some > > webpages, provide ftp/ssh access, meanwhile be > accessible on my Windows > > network/workgroup. > > > > I've looked over some options as far as setup goes > and all that, and I > > think I'm going to go with the following: > > > > The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > > Is probably too advanced for your needs. It might > be useful if you're > planning on using FreeBSD on a larger network with > many Windows machines > (at which point it's invaluable). > Do you think so? I recently got a copy (or more precisely got the time to read my copy), and I've found it quite useful. Admittedly, I've been playing with FreeBSD for about a year and a half now, but I wouldn't consider myself an advanced user. The nice thing about the CNG is that Mittelstadt (sp?) explains a lot of the whys and wherefores of the system. This has been somewhat more helpful to me than some other books. I'm also pretty fond of The Complete FreeBSD (Lehey). I've heard good things about Annelise Anderson's book, but haven't picked it up. HTH Marci ===== Marriage, n. THe state or condition of a community consisting of a master, a mistress and two slaves, making in all, two. -Ambrose Bierce, THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 5 10: 5:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097C837B41B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-vcautcv.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.117.159] helo=athena) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Y9xl-0004Sd-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2002 10:05:01 -0800 Message-ID: <001301c1ae70$31920d70$6404a8c0@athena> From: "Mark Hepp" To: References: <3C5EE849.C6443DB@lucent.com> Subject: Re: Missing files on Installation CD Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:09:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bad situation, if you got your money back no harm no foul. We have all been where you are now at some point Now, so that you will not give up and this will not stop you from your pursuit of learning FreeBSD. First, do you have a cd burner or know someone who does? - find a high speed Internet connection, go here. www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html Notice at the top of the page you are 'in' the FreeBSD Handbook. The ftp BSD link (about 4 inches down the page from the top) will take you to where you can download FreeBSD for nothing. follow ISO's , then ISO 386 then 4.5 - here click on the install iso. you will be prompted to download the iso Try to create a folder ahead of time to hold the iso - check your free space the iso is quite large 600+ Megs there is plenty contained in this one iso, it will give you a fully functional machine If you don't have DSL or Cable or don't know anyone who does Go here http://www.bsdmall.com/ and buy a cd set. These are the same iso images as from the web. Most important -- read the FreeBSD Handbook ( from the link above) at least the first 3 chapters. Have fun! -Mark >Subject: Missing files on Installation CD > To whom it may concern, > > I recently purchased the FreeBSD Power Pack 4.2 > from Staples in Bedford NH. When I tried to install > the system, I found, much to my dismay, that the > installation CD was missing critical files needed > to install the kernel. > > I returned the software to the store and when they > looked at another box, they found the same problem. > > Needless to say, I was very disappointed that I had > spent all that time and effort and never got off the > ground.> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 5 14:18: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9309B37B41A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:17:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020205221758.99297.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.24.198] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Feb 2002 14:17:58 PST Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:17:58 -0800 (PST) From: Vinod Namboodiri Subject: subscribe freebsd-newbies To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-newbies __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 5 14:33:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21109.mail.yahoo.com (web21109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 567CB37B427 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:33:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020205223318.69295.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.24.198] by web21109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Feb 2002 14:33:18 PST Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:33:18 -0800 (PST) From: Vinod Namboodiri Subject: TCP/IP stack To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org can anyone tell me the url where i can find the TCP/IP stack source code.is the following url the right one http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ Thanks in advance. 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Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 5 18:29:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2716D37B416 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 18:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1626u494675; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 02:06:56 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 02:06:56 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Ralph King Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dos based email client, dos emulation Message-ID: <20020206020656.I5732@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020205101802.0378ac00@us23.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VxEiC3f0k/7mWchE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020205101802.0378ac00@us23.com>; from rking@iname.com on Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:32:14AM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --VxEiC3f0k/7mWchE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:32:14AM -0500, Ralph King wrote: > Anyone know where I can find a dos based application that can dial into a= =20 > FreeBSD server to get and send mail on the local server? It needs to be a= s=20 > simple to use as possible. I want to replace a system currently using=20 > Worldgroup client software running on Windows 3.11 I would prefer to=20 > completely avoid Windows and keep the users away from any ability to=20 > execute dos commands. I would really like to be able to replace the dos= =20 > with FreeBSD. How well does dos emulation work in FreeBSD? Since it sounds like (from your first sentance) that you haven't got the DOS application yet, why not just FreeBSD for the whole thing? 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Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:19:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a059.otenet.gr [212.205.215.59]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g16LJTr8018847; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 23:19:34 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g16JMZW07424; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 21:22:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 21:22:34 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Vinod Namboodiri Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCP/IP stack Message-ID: <20020206192234.GA638@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020205223318.69295.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020205223318.69295.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-02-05 14:33, Vinod Namboodiri wrote: > can anyone tell me the url where i can find the TCP/IP > stack source code.is the following url the right one > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ I've been reading the 'TCP/IP Illustrated, vol. 2' book lately. The networking code of FreeBSD is similar to that of 4.4BSD (that the book describes). The src/sys/net, src/sys/netinet and src/sys/sys directories are those that you'll be mostly interested to. Searching to find things with cvsweb is an awful thing though. Having a local copy of the sources, on a FreeBSD installation will help you a lot. I use a local copy of the sources and find/grep combinations to look for files where a function is defined or used. For instance, to look at the headers to find which one defines the ip_output() function (in case you forget where it's defined), you can use the simple (but kind of slow) command: $ find /usr/src/sys -type f -name '*.h' | xargs grep -n ip_output - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 6 13:47:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from psmtp2.dnsg.net (psmtp2.dnsg.net [193.168.128.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63A8937B419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7522 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2002 22:47:28 +0100 Received: from frnk-3e3574eb.pool.mediaways.net (HELO there) (62.53.116.235) by psmtp2.dnsg.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2002 22:47:28 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Heiko Scheib To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Official 4 CDROM-Set - ISO-IMAGES lacking lot of software ??? Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 22:50:39 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20020206214728.7520.qmail@psmtp2.dnsg.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just recently switched to FreeBSD and bought a 4 CDROM-set with the official iso-images from a german distributor (www.liniso.de). He claims, that the content is identical with the iso images on the ftp-server. I do belive that because I frequently buy CDs from him and never had any problems. Now I`m suffering a serious disappointment, because the included PACKAGES are only a very small part of what is shown in the packages-tree of the ftp-server. For example kdenetwork, XT and XP and dozens (no apparently hundreds) of packages are only listed as packages on the ftp-server. They are not included in the iso-images and therefore in the 4 cdrom-set. I would have to load them down (with my very slow connection). IS THIS RIGHT OR IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY CD-SET? Thanks for any information ! regards Heiko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 6 14:20:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158ED37B421 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAAB48; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:20:17 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:19:46 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-100.acuson.com [157.226.46.100]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVDF7GB; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:10:44 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Heiko Scheib , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Official 4 CDROM-Set - ISO-IMAGES lacking lot of software ??? Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:20:03 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020206214728.7520.qmail@psmtp2.dnsg.net> In-Reply-To: <20020206214728.7520.qmail@psmtp2.dnsg.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020206222024.158ED37B421@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:50 pm, Heiko Scheib wrote: > Now I`m suffering a serious disappointment, because the included PACKAGES > are only a very small part of what is shown in the packages-tree of the > ftp-server. There's no way the 4 CD set can contain all of the packages. There's simply not enough room. If you have the ISO images from -4.5, then most of the KDE stuff will be missing, due to an unfortunate series of miscommunications. kdelibs and kdebase will still be there, but the other stuff needs to be downloaded separately. This *may* get corrected on some distributors' sets, but it's still too early to know. You shouldn't have any problems with KDE on earlier releases. I don't know anything about XT and XP. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 6 15:57:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7800637B420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g16NeUf07056; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 23:40:30 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 23:40:30 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Johnson David Cc: Heiko Scheib , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official 4 CDROM-Set - ISO-IMAGES lacking lot of software ??? Message-ID: <20020206234030.J5732@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020206214728.7520.qmail@psmtp2.dnsg.net> <20020206222024.158ED37B421@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mtfogggI1YmpIpmy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020206222024.158ED37B421@hub.freebsd.org>; from djohnson@acuson.com on Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:20:03PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --mtfogggI1YmpIpmy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:20:03PM -0800, Johnson David wrote: > On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:50 pm, Heiko Scheib wrote: >=20 > > Now I`m suffering a serious disappointment, because the included PACKAG= ES > > are only a very small part of what is shown in the packages-tree of the > > ftp-server. >=20 > There's no way the 4 CD set can contain all of the packages. There's simp= ly=20 > not enough room.=20 >=20 > If you have the ISO images from -4.5, then most of the KDE stuff will be= =20 > missing, due to an unfortunate series of miscommunications. kdelibs and= =20 > kdebase will still be there, but the other stuff needs to be downloaded= =20 > separately. This *may* get corrected on some distributors' sets, but it's= =20 > still too early to know. You shouldn't have any problems with KDE on earl= ier=20 > releases. I don't know anything about XT and XP. If you've got a DVD drive, may I recommend FreeBSD on DVD, from http://www.freebsd-services.com/ 2 DVD disks, which include all the port distfiles, and the pre-built packages, that can legally be distributed. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --mtfogggI1YmpIpmy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxhvu4ACgkQk6gHZCw343XdKwCfYzB24919cCMHrWuPM/vUdTmA LAgAnRMU+/iLS778pRDfnIqJ4RDq6McT =FLSG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mtfogggI1YmpIpmy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 7 4: 7:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03-gb.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFC837B41F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 04:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [131.220.244.104] (ascend-tk-p104.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.104]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA199482; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:06:50 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:06:50 +0100 X-Sender: uzs106@mailin.uni-bonn.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020205101802.0378ac00@us23.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Ralph King , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Heiko Recktenwald Subject: Re: dos based email client, dos emulation Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >execute dos commands. I would really like to be able to replace the dos >with FreeBSD. How well does dos emulation work in FreeBSD? Why dont you use Pine ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 7 18: 2:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from h008.c021.snv.cp.net (h008.c021.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8472437B419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.dignons.com.criticalpath.net (209.228.35.181) by h008.c021.snv.cp.net (5.6.019) (authenticated as freebsd@dignons.com) id 3C115C2200020B6C for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:02:08 -0800 Received: from [172.153.128.19] by mail.dignons.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Feb 2002 18:02:07 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: freebsd@dignons.com Subject: mount faq X-Sent-From: freebsd@dignons.com Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 18:02:07 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.0.5-8 Message-Id: <20020207180208.18401.h011.c021.wm@mail.dignons.com.criticalpath.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i am a "newbie" at freebsd and am currently puzzled with the mount command. i have read the man pages, and other documentation but still cant seem to get it..can someone help? note: because i was brought up on a windows system and babied by it, i need simplistic instructions. =) thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 7 18:47:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9C337B41A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch00.acuson.com ([157.226.230.212]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA63C5; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:47:21 -0800 Received: by mvaexch00.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:42:24 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-100.acuson.com [157.226.46.100]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVDG170; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:37:44 -0800 From: Johnson David To: freebsd@dignons.com, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: mount faq Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:47:05 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020207180208.18401.h011.c021.wm@mail.dignons.com.criticalpath.net> In-Reply-To: <20020207180208.18401.h011.c021.wm@mail.dignons.com.criticalpath.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020208024723.AA9C337B41A@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday 07 February 2002 06:02 pm, freebsd@dignons.com wrote: > i am a "newbie" at freebsd and am currently puzzled > with the mount command. i have read the man pages, and > other documentation but still cant seem to get it..can > someone help? If the Handbook is confusing (section 3.4), then the following might help: http://www.daemonnews.org/199811/newbies.html This is an article about mounting and using floppies, but most of the principles apply to mounting other file systems, such as the CDROM or a Windows/DOS partition. In a nutshell, here is the "why" of mounting. Back in the days of the dinosaurs (even before PDP-11's) harddrives and tape drives were very expensive and very big. You didn't insert a floppy or CD, you physically mounted a platter or tape spool. "mount" was a very appropriate name. You also needed to tell the computer somehow that you had changed the platter or spool. Nowadays the drives are much, much smaller and hold much, much more information, but the process is still the same. Every operating system of any sophistication has mount and unmount, or analogous actions. Windows still does this, but it does it for you automatically. There is a daemon program for FreeBDS that will do this automatically as well, but it isn't the easiest thing to set up (although it isn't rocket science either). Here's how you mount under FreeBSD (and all other unices). You take a filesystem (CD, floppy, harddrive partition) and splice it into the Grand Unified Directory Hiearchy. The filesystem is represented by a device (/dev/acd0c) and the splicing point is the directory it gets mounted at. mount also needs to know what kind of filesystem it is (native freebsd, native windows, CDROM iso9660 format, etc). You can also pass it miscellaneous options, such as read-only. Now that you know the "why", the "how" of the Handbook should be understandable. Hope this helps, David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 7 19:24:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from idscc05.onewest.net (idscc05.onewest.net [199.104.81.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A6F37B404 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:24:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from terry (du212.idfl-223.onewest.net [12.7.223.212] (may be forged)) by idscc05.onewest.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id g183K3K8026408 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:20:03 -0700 Message-ID: <001101c1b057$a819f000$0400a8c0@terry> From: "Terry Thomas" To: References: <20020207180208.18401.h011.c021.wm@mail.dignons.com.criticalpath.net> Subject: Re: mount faq Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:18:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are you just trying to mount a floppy so you can access it... mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt then cd /mnt to ls, cp , mv, etc. make sure you umount it other than do a search here... http://groups.google.com/groups?group=mailing.freebsd.questions or here is the freebsd site with mail archives and doc search... http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html Have fun, freebsd is great! Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: mount faq > i am a "newbie" at freebsd and am currently puzzled > with the mount command. i have read the man pages, and > other documentation but still cant seem to get it..can > someone help? > > note: because i was brought up on a windows system and > babied by it, i need simplistic instructions. =) > > thanks > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 7 23:37:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from monday.rutgers.edu (monday.rutgers.edu [128.6.60.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5798837B405; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bohra@localhost) by monday.rutgers.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06317; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 02:37:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 02:37:26 -0500 (EST) From: Aniruddha Bohra To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Starting X for non root users Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I have been trying to get X to work for non root users but have failed on FreeBSD 4.4. In any case Xwrapper does not work even for root, but startx works(so there is nothing wrong with the X configuration). Xwrapper just starts a gray screen and sits there. xdm/kdm both show the initial screen, take login and passwd if login is incorrect, they say login failed however, if correct login is provided, the server restarts. Any ideas about how to do it? Thanks Aniruddha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 8 9:45:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.intermedia.net (mail4.intermedia.net [206.40.48.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB1637B41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from cenatek.com (unverified [216.139.43.22]) by mail4.intermedia.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:45:03 -0800 Message-ID: <3C640DB0.C102060A@cenatek.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:41:05 -0800 From: Kelly Cash X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD and Compaq Presario Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to load FreeBSD onto a Compaq Presario model 5102US. I've tried standard install of both FreeBSD 4.4 and 4.5. They seem to install fine, but when I boot it, the system kernel panics every time after it configures ppi0 on ppbus0. Trace is: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x1 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01b7013 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc04a1f6c frame pointer = 0x10:0xc04a1f88 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) interrupt mask = net tty bio cam trap number = 12 panic: page fault Any ideas? Thanks much, -K ============================================================= Kelly Cash Director, Systems Engineering 408-782-1220 (w) Cenatek, Inc. 408-782-1120 (f) 18625 Sutter Blvd. #800 kcash@cenatek.com (e) Morgan Hill, CA 95037-2864 http://www.cenatek.com/ (u) ============================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 8 10:26:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851F737B41C; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87E75D13; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:26:18 -0800 (PST) To: Aniruddha Bohra Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting X for non root users In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Feb 2002 02:37:26 EST." Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:26:18 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20020208182618.E87E75D13@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 02:37:26 -0500 (EST) > From: Aniruddha Bohra > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Hello > I have been trying to get X to work for non root users but have > failed on FreeBSD 4.4. > > In any case Xwrapper does not work even for root, but startx works(so > there is nothing wrong with the X configuration). > > Xwrapper just starts a gray screen and sits there. > > xdm/kdm both show the initial screen, take login and passwd > if login is incorrect, they say login failed > however, if correct login is provided, the server restarts. Are you running XFree86 4.x or 3.3.6? The X wrapper is only for 4.0 and higher. You don't ever run the wrapper. It is executed automatically. you just have startx fire up KDE in the normal fashion with the contents of .xinitrc. (I run Gnome, so I don't remember the command to start kde.) The wrapper is not used/needed for xdm (and, I assume, kdm) logins. It is specific to startx. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 8 15:55:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from integral.e-boxen.com (s142-179-213-195.ab.hsia.telus.net [142.179.213.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF81337B402 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 34033 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2002 23:37:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO business-aid.net) (150.0.6.223) by s142-179-213-195.ab.hsia.telus.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2002 23:37:40 -0000 Message-ID: <3C64757E.CCB66B7F@business-aid.net> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 17:03:58 -0800 From: joe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: webserver error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have a web and name server, i did up a website and was setting it up for my web/name server when i got it all sat up. i check the next day to see if was up and i got this... Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. what did i do wrong can some one help me thank joe; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 8 16:25: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from idscc05.onewest.net (snake.srv.net [199.104.81.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D186F37B41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from terry (du212.idfl-223.onewest.net [12.7.223.212] (may be forged)) by idscc05.onewest.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id g190Ku97006930 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:20:57 -0700 Message-ID: <013501c1b107$d4b98520$0400a8c0@terry> From: "Terry Thomas" To: References: <3C64757E.CCB66B7F@business-aid.net> Subject: Re: webserver error Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:19:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check the permissions on your directory! ls -la directory should be drwxr-xr-x chmod 755 directory Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: webserver error > i have a web and name server, i did up a website and was setting it up > for my web/name server when i got it all sat up. i check the next day to > see if was up and i got this... > > Forbidden > > You don't have permission to access / on this server. > > what did i do wrong can some one help me > > thank > joe; > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 8 19:10:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C2337B400 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g193A1429692 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200202090310.g193A1429692@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 9 1:59:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from webclan.com (webclan.com [216.149.213.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A5D637B405 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 01:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 73552 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2002 10:12:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mk) (24.48.219.208) by msquaredweb.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2002 10:12:40 -0000 Message-ID: <036801c1b150$6f0604d0$6601a8c0@mk> From: "Mike K" To: Subject: FAQ is vague about upgrade from 3.x -> 4.x ... please help Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 01:59:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello... I have a remote 3.4-RELEASE box (production box) that I would like to upgrade to the latest version (4.5?). I have searched and read and reviewed the FAQ, especially this page: http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/01.31.shtml which says: "We strongly recommend that you use binary snapshots to do this. 4-STABLE snapshots are available at Upgrading via source is never recommended for new users, and upgading from 3.X -> 4.X is even less so; make sure you have read the instructions carefully before attempting to upgrade via source this! " Now, I was told by several freebsd people (who know a hell of a lot more than I) that upgrading from 3.x to 4.x using binary snapshots is cake and can be done safely and easily remotely, without console access. My problem is that I can't find information regarding this.... whatsoever. Everywhere I look it just has the same line from a mirror of the FAQ. Does anyone have step-by-step instructions for upgrading 3.x (or 3.4-REL specifically) to the latest 4.x.....remotely/safely/with-minimal-downtime? Thanks. -MK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 9 5:48:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB1137B41D for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 05:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a114.otenet.gr [212.205.215.114]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g19DmQto018682; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:48:26 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g19DmPm09119; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:48:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:48:25 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mike K Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAQ is vague about upgrade from 3.x -> 4.x ... please help Message-ID: <20020209134825.GC8832@hades.hell.gr> References: <036801c1b150$6f0604d0$6601a8c0@mk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <036801c1b150$6f0604d0$6601a8c0@mk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-02-09 01:59, Mike K wrote: > Does anyone have step-by-step instructions for upgrading 3.x (or 3.4-REL > specifically) to the latest 4.x.....remotely/safely/with-minimal-downtime? Your best bet is probably to install to a second box (as similar as possible to the remote box), set everything up, and then replace the disk of the remote machine with the new disk. I feel a lot safer when doing remote upgrades this way, and it only requires a single reboot to swap disks :) Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 9 15:31: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6BD37B404 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-58-224-6.s6.tnt1.clmb.md.dialup.rcn.com ([208.58.224.6] helo=ljgms2k) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 16ZgxW-0000qu-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2002 18:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c1b1c1$ee6d4eb0$06e03ad0@ljgms2k> From: "leegold" To: Subject: upgrading X has been nasty Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 18:30:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do you think you could take a look at my x problem on the questions mail list? I broke my X trying to upgrade. Here's the questions mailing list date and subject. Feb 9 leegold nasty x problem Thanks. Any help appreciated. Imo, I've really been busting chops trying to figure out what deinstall does (I don't even have a man pg for it but see it mentioned as a command(?), what delete_pkg does, what setnev FORCE_PKG_REGISTER does (an env. variable?), what the heck was going w/the ports, then when it's installed it called apparently a pakage(?) It's way complicated imo. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 9 20: 2:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe13.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.18.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5F037B402 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:02:22 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.41.159.196] From: "Shawn Halloran" To: "freebsd-newbie" Subject: Drivers - Finding / installing Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:07:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1B1A5.5FAD5600" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2002 04:02:22.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE36F900:01C1B1E7] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1B1A5.5FAD5600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1) Where do I find inforation about current drivers? a) I have an Intellipoint Optical USB mouse - PS/2 compatible. I can not = get the mouse daemon or X to initialize the mouse. FreeBSD recocnizes the= USB mouse during installation, but I can not configure it. b) I have a 3dfx VooDoo5 5500 PCI graphics card - the only driver listed = is a VooDoo3 (generic). =20 2) How do I tell the OS where to look for the drivers once their located,= and how do I update the drivers? These are probably very stupid questions, but the greatest amount of succ= ess I've experience to date is the ls command (definately a newbie). Thanks, ShawnGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer= .msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1B1A5.5FAD5600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
1) Where do I = find inforation about current drivers?
 
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These are probably= very stupid questions, but the greatest amount of success I've experienc= e to date is the ls command (definately a newbie).
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------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C1B1A5.5FAD5600-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 9 21:10:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [216.187.106.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0C137B402; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 21:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by m20.unixathome.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1A5A6176754; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 00:10:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 00:10:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200202100510.g1A5A6176754@m20.unixathome.org> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-01-20 - 2002-02-09 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . No new articles have been posted during this period -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message