From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 01:53:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE69937B401; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 01:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B33543FA3; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 01:53:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 1926pl-000PTT-00; Sun, 06 Apr 2003 10:53:05 +0100 Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 10:53:05 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20030406095305.GB97856@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Murray Stokely , www@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> <20030405134918.B43794@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030405134918.B43794@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 09:53:07 -0000 On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 01:49:18PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > What are the benefits of the full transition? What cool new XML tools > will this allow us to use? How will this enhance the look and feel of > the website? etc.. I don't know that there would be any other benefits; all this would get us is a web site that validates. Perhaps someone else more familiar with the tools available could offer a suggestion, but in my opinion XHTML, by it's very nature, is lacking most of the benefits of XML anyway. [ Having said that, having XHTML documents that validate would be more useful than having ones that don't ;) ] > I'm not against it, but it seems like a lot of work that could be > better spent improving the Handbook or something if there aren't some > more apparent benefits. That's a fair point; since there's still work to be done before this can work properly anyway, I'll background it for now, but at some point I'd like to revisit this (ever since I noticed this it's been bugging me). Ceri -- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 04:54:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ED837B401; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 04:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E303C43F75; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 04:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (tom@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h36BrwUp068696; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 04:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h36BrwhE068692; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 04:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 04:53:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Hukins Message-Id: <200304061153.h36BrwhE068692@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tim@bishnet.net, tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50501: Add UK rsync mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 11:54:06 -0000 Synopsis: Add UK rsync mirror State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: tom State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 6 04:52:29 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed in revision 1.284 of mirrors/chapter.sgml, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50501 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 05:27:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5586F37B401; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 05:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0.freebsd-services.com (survey.codeburst.net [195.149.39.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CAD43FD7; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 05:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@freebsd-services.com) Received: from [192.168.7.2] (freebsd.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.249.198]) by mx0.freebsd-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A011B213; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 13:27:14 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Richards To: Ceri Davies In-Reply-To: <20030406095305.GB97856@submonkey.net> References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> <20030405134918.B43794@freebsdmall.com> <20030406095305.GB97856@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: FreeBSD Services Ltd Message-Id: <1049631813.651.2.camel@cf.freebsd-services.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 06 Apr 2003 13:23:34 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Murray Stokely cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 12:27:16 -0000 On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 10:53, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 01:49:18PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > > What are the benefits of the full transition? What cool new XML tools > > will this allow us to use? How will this enhance the look and feel of > > the website? etc.. > > I don't know that there would be any other benefits; all this would get > us is a web site that validates. Perhaps someone else more familiar with > the tools available could offer a suggestion, but in my opinion XHTML, by > it's very nature, is lacking most of the benefits of XML anyway. It's maybe a bit pedantic but one of the strengths of this project has always been that we "do things right", therefore getting our website to be xhtml compliant is a worthy goal. Just as we try to keep our code up to the highest standards our web site should also match current web standards. It will have some benefits, if the pages pass validation tests then we can be sure that it renders correctly in all browsers that correctly implement the standards. -- Paul Richards FreeBSD Services Ltd From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 07:06:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA3537B431 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 07:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abc.com (bb220-255-81-81.singnet.com.sg [220.255.81.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB0643F3F for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 07:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abc@abc.com) From: "James" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset="GB2312" Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 22:02:40 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: FoxMail 3.11 Release [cn] Message-Id: <20030406140628.EBB0643F3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Supply laser markers X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: abc@abc.com List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 14:06:32 -0000 Manufacturer of Nd:YAG & CO2 laser marking, welding, engraving, drilling & cutting machine, mirror, Q-switch, fiber, scanning lens, focusing lens, chiller, flashlamp, crystal, bean expander, energy/power meter, laser diodes, safety goggles. For more information, please visit http://www.SintecOptronics.com or e-mail to sales@SintecOptronics.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 08:15:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09AE37B401; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 08:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts9.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BAC43F75; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 08:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmagda@magda.ca) Received: from number6.magda.ca ([64.229.177.20]) by tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20030406151520.NPWP17120.tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net@number6.magda.ca>; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 11:15:20 -0400 Received: from number6.magda.ca (localhost.magda.ca [127.0.0.1]) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.9/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h36FFJH2065222 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Apr 2003 11:15:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda@magda.ca) Received: (from dmagda@localhost) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.9/8.12.7/Submit) id h36FFJNj065221; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 11:15:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 11:15:19 -0400 From: David Magda To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030406151518.GB65167@number6.magda.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: suggestion for copying files: use cpio(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Magda List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 15:15:22 -0000 Hello, A suggestion for general Ports policy and for the Porter's handbook. Can you suggest/encourage the use of cpio(1) to copy file from one directory to another? Many ports use tar(1) or cp(1) which can sometimes lead to unexpected results. For paranoia reasons, I tend to build all my ports as a regular, non-priviledged user, and then do a 'make install' as root. If a port uses tar(1) or cp(1) then the installed files are owned by the building user. I personally think this is Not Good. An example of what I think is good would be the www/mozilla port: [...] do-install: ${MKDIR} ${PREFIX}/lib/${MOZILLA} ${CHMOD} 755 ${PREFIX}/lib/${MOZILLA} cd ${WRKSRC}/dist/bin && ${FIND} . | \ cpio -pdm -L -R ${LIBOWN}:${LIBGRP} ${PREFIX}/lib/${MOZILLA} [...] The '-R' option makes sure that the proper permissions are set, but also makes them user-definable through the variables that are used. Just a suggestion. -- David Magda Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 16:03:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C1237B401; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE18043F3F; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <20030406230308001002mpb6e>; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 23:03:08 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h36N37s0033556; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h36N37ZO033555; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:03:07 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Ceri Davies , www@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030406230307.GA33473@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 23:03:11 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline If memory serves me right, Ceri Davies wrote: > In August last year, a commit was made to change the website to XHTML, and > since then, all the documents built from SGML have been happily announcing > in their DOCTYPE declaration that they are XHTML 1.0 Transitional. > However, with the exception of the front page of the web site, they aren't; > none of them validate. I might note that all of the documents in our documentation set also claim to be XHTML. I wonder about them? If they're compliant, fixing *them* might be kind of hard since a lot of the XHTML is generated from the toolchain. Like Murray, the cost/benefit ratio is a little hazy to me, but I'd say as long as you're willing, and it doesn't break anything, go for it. Bruce. --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+kLIr2MoxcVugUsMRAnsbAJ0UzHbmPCaAAOdUfE0qSt4hblnnCwCfTYAA AYt+8iRaqCWmps/zzm+acuo= =3pfT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 16:06:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627DA37B401 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AAA43FAF for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <20030406230653001002lkbbe>; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 23:06:53 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h36N6qs0033594; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h36N6qub033593; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:06:52 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Gerald Pfeifer Message-ID: <20030406230652.GB33473@intruder.bmah.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V0207lvV8h4k8FAm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8R/relnotes-i386.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 23:06:56 -0000 --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > At http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/relnotes-i386.html I noticed that > some links, specifically >=20 > " hifn(4)" > " ubsec(4)" > " cd(4)" >=20 > have a leading blank when viewed with Netscape 7.02; I believe this is > due to "extra" line breaks after , so perhaps these could > be avoided somehow? So, given that I haven't actually looked at the actual HTML...the hyperlinks (and the text in and around them) are generated by the toolchain (and various stylesheets). Fixing this problem would probably mean groveling around in there. :-p Bruce. --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+kLMJ2MoxcVugUsMRAiqKAKDPB/xhjelx/wRVvv1tqoxXWwj+tQCfZqSq uOjuhqD4MG2F385bEARbyBc= =TRjy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 16:07:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7AD37B401 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 845DD43FB1 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dandeloreon@SoftHome.net) Received: (qmail 21730 invoked by uid 417); 6 Apr 2003 23:07:16 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 6 Apr 2003 23:07:16 -0000 Received: from SoftHome.net ([68.185.200.19]) (AUTH: PLAIN dandeloreon@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Sun, 06 Apr 2003 17:07:14 -0600 Message-ID: <3E90CEDE.2040703@SoftHome.net> Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 18:05:34 -0700 From: Kenney Phillis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Driver programming X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 23:07:17 -0000 I am currently working on drivers for freeBSD, and right now I can not see how to program for a wireless interface... Can you add a section for wireless interfaces to the developers handbook, and also a section on how to translate a linux driver to a freebsd driver, because the driver may need changes to work on freebsd natively without a compatability layer. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 16:21:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFC637B401; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65CD43FB1; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h36NLGBG046807; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 19:21:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 07:19:50 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-Id: <20030407071950.61a3d035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030406230307.GA33473@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> <20030406230307.GA33473@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: ceri@FreeBSD.org cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 23:21:23 -0000 On Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:03:07 -0700 "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > If memory serves me right, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > In August last year, a commit was made to change the website to XHTML, and > > since then, all the documents built from SGML have been happily announcing > > in their DOCTYPE declaration that they are XHTML 1.0 Transitional. > > However, with the exception of the front page of the web site, they aren't; > > none of them validate. > > I might note that all of the documents in our documentation set also > claim to be XHTML. I wonder about them? If they're compliant, fixing > *them* might be kind of hard since a lot of the XHTML is generated > from the toolchain. Generated from tidy using the flags we have. Wonder what other options we can use here. :) /me backs away > > Like Murray, the cost/benefit ratio is a little hazy to me, but I'd > say as long as you're willing, and it doesn't break anything, go for > it. Well this was originally done for the purpose of working with a wide variety of www browsers. Thats the only reason I cared to do it in the first place. If its not helping, or there is no real change, then we can just back it out and look at another solution. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 19:51:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19DA37B401 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 19:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spam2.snu.ac.kr (spam2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.10.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79EDC43FA3 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 19:51:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lahaye@users.sourceforge.net) Received: (snipe 10267 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 2003 02:57:35 -0000 Received: from lahaye@users.sourceforge.net with Spamsniper2.0 (Processed in 0.193025 secs); Received: from unknown (HELO sis1.snu.ac.kr) (147.46.10.36) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Apr 2003 02:57:35 -0000 X-RCPTTO: doc@FreeBSD.org, Received: from users.sourceforge.net ([147.46.44.183]) by sis1.snu.ac.kr (v3smtp 8.11.6.8/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h372oES72080 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:50:14 +0900 Message-ID: <3E90E7AE.90207@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:51:26 +0900 From: Rob Lahaye Organization: Seoul National University - South Korea User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030215 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ko-kr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Advanced Installation Guide: add installing over PPPoE X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 02:51:05 -0000 Hi, Instead of having PPPoE install guidelines info on a remote website, why not adding this to the handbook? The "Advanced Installation Guide" section would be the best place for this. The site I'm talking about is: http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/pppoe/article.html Regards, Rob. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 00:56:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329B037B404 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 00:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71C2243FAF for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 00:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 6211 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2003 07:51:27 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 7 Apr 2003 07:51:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18981 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Apr 2003 07:54:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:54:29 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-ID: <20030407075429.GB527@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce A. Mah" , World Wide Web Owner , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200304040654.h346sXah017211@www.freebsd.org> <20030404070136.GA40667@intruder.bmah.org> <20030404080640.GB7008@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030404173546.GA32903@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030404173546.GA32903@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: World Wide Web Owner Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 07:56:36 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 09:35:46AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:01:36PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > If memory serves me right, World Wide Web Owner wrote: > > >=20 > > > > install -C -o bmah -g www -m 664 /w/www/build/www/en/applications.= html /usr/local/www/data > > > > install: /usr/local/www/data/applications.html: chown/chgrp: Operat= ion not permitted > > >=20 > > > This is the result of me trying to trigger Web updates. I'm not sure > > > why it's trying to install files as me. Sorry for the chatter. > >=20 > > I think both web.site.mk and doc.install.mk have always done what > > doc.install.mk calls 'hack to set DOCOWN and DOCGRP to those of the user > > installing, if that user is not root'. >=20 > What was puzzling me was that I was logged in as www at the time > (well, logged in as me, and then ksu-ed to www). Oh well. If you ksu'd without '-l' (or just '-'), then ksu did not set the USER env variable, and $USER is exactly what web.site.mk uses to determine whether you are the World Wide Web or not... or rather, which user to install files as. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 What would this sentence be like if it weren't self-referential? --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+kS607Ri2jRYZRVMRAoyZAJ466FVolvppdNRmlObAsDR92A7DgACgnFkw IZSz+CrFfFiL4L16laI2Ep0= =rrcY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 02:00:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D7737B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D449943FA3 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3790VUp099568 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3790VQW099567; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304070900.h3790VQW099567@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8F937B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4964743F93 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by builder.freebsdmall.com (8.12.9/8.11.6) id h378p0So007090; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Message-Id: <200304070851.h378p0So007090@builder.freebsdmall.com> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:51:00 -0700 (PDT) From: murray@FreeBSD.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50664: Handbook 12.4.1 (CCD) needs work X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: murray@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 09:00:33 -0000 >Number: 50664 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook 12.4.1 (CCD) needs work >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 07 02:00:31 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Murray Stokely >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Mall, Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD builder.freebsdmall.com 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #21: Sun Mar 23 14:37:00 PST 2003 murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUILDER i386 >Description: The section on Software RAID / CCD in Chapter 12 is unclear, uses the first person, and includes a lot of irrelevant personal information about the author. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Rework this chapter to improve clarify and professionalism. Sorry, no patch at this time. ;) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 02:00:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7C837B404 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3572D43FAF for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3790WUp099581 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3790Wf5099580; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 02:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304070900.h3790Wf5099580@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50F937B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8022643F75 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by builder.freebsdmall.com (8.12.9/8.11.6) id h378vgdH007180; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Message-Id: <200304070857.h378vgdH007180@builder.freebsdmall.com> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 01:57:42 -0700 (PDT) From: murray@FreeBSD.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50665: Handbook 19.4.5 uses 1st person X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: murray@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 09:00:34 -0000 >Number: 50665 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook 19.4.5 uses 1st person >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 07 02:00:31 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Murray Stokely >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Mall, Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD builder.freebsdmall.com 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #21: Sun Mar 23 14:37:00 PST 2003 murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUILDER i386 >Description: The Advanced Networking : Bridging : Performance section includes an outdated performance antecdote written in the first person. I was tempted to just remove the whole thing but there may be some utility to such a performance testimonial if it can be done in more professional way. If this style must be used, then it should at least start off with "One of the authors" instead of "I" and it should probably be separated from the main flow of the text in a box or footnote or something. Alternatively, the personal testimonial style can just be dropped in favor or more formal exposition. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Sorry no patch yet. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 03:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A060B37B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 03:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4E143FD7; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 03:10:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 192TaL-0001BJ-00; Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:10:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:10:41 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-ID: <20030407101041.GA4506@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , "Bruce A. Mah" , www@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> <20030406230307.GA33473@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030406230307.GA33473@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:10:44 -0000 On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 04:03:07PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > In August last year, a commit was made to change the website to XHTML, and > > since then, all the documents built from SGML have been happily announcing > > in their DOCTYPE declaration that they are XHTML 1.0 Transitional. > > However, with the exception of the front page of the web site, they aren't; > > none of them validate. > > I might note that all of the documents in our documentation set also > claim to be XHTML. I wonder about them? If they're compliant, fixing > *them* might be kind of hard since a lot of the XHTML is generated > from the toolchain. It won't take me long to find out how hard this is likely to be; I'll take a look at it sometime this week. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 03:50:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB8B37B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 03:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B2C43FBF; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 03:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37AosUp031564; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 03:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37AosVE031527; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 03:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 03:50:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304071050.h37AosVE031527@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ast@marabu.ch, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/35620: make release fails in documentation for RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 as of Feb 28th X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:50:55 -0000 Synopsis: make release fails in documentation for RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 as of Feb 28th State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 03:50:11 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: I have added a note to the new 'BUGS' section of release(7). Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will MFC the man page addition later this week. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 03:50:11 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I have added a note to the new 'BUGS' section of release(7). Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will MFC the man page addition later this week. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35620 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 04:22:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6B337B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B50143FBF; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37BM2Up046496; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37BM2L2046492; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304071122.h37BM2L2046492@freefall.freebsd.org> To: osa@FreeBSD.org.ru, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48038: [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into EAG X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:22:03 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into EAG State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:20:31 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: I've added something about MAKEDEV / devfs to the EAG, but I think the rest of this patch is more appropriate for the FAQ. Can you resubmit this as an addition to the FAQ? The informal problem/solution items you've created here don't fit well with this article, but they are perfect for the FAQ. Thanks for taking the time to write this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48038 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 04:30:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4C837B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from doriath.saers.com (doriath.religion.no [193.156.192.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D5C43FBD for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from niklasmls@doriath.saers.com) Received: by doriath.saers.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8E8BE3E3B; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:30:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by doriath.saers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863C43E34 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:30:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:30:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Niklas Saers Mailinglistaccount To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030407131220.J44062@doriath.saers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Project model X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:30:18 -0000 Hi all, I'd like to present http://niklas.saers.com/freebsd-model/freebsd-model.html for review. Known issues: 1) freebsd-code-model.png (the rather ugly hand-done drawing) will be replaced soon (I'm getting help from someone a lot more skilled at drawing than I am :) ). 2) The reference section needs to be cleaned up (a couple references not working properly), and the xrefs all the sudden refer to sections, so I need to go through my compile options. 3) The couple of notes in brackets are for my updating of the document. A couple of questions before doing a send-pr, - do you prefer another license for documentation than the standard two-clause license? - are there any good tools for DocBook XML => DocBook SGML conversion? Cheers Nik From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 04:40:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5C937B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E795543FA3; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:40:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37BeqUp050719; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:40:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37BeqpH050709; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:40:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304071140.h37BeqpH050709@freefall.freebsd.org> To: scott+freebsd@fishballoon.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/49036: Add Sitecom multi-flash reader to umass(4) manual page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:40:54 -0000 Synopsis: Add Sitecom multi-flash reader to umass(4) manual page State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:30:25 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Your change has been committed to -CURRENT. Thanks for the submission. I will MFC this in a few days. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:30:25 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Committed.. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=49036 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 04:41:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FDE37B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBB043F3F; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37BfpUp051426; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37BfoA0051420; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304071141.h37BfoA0051420@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eric@mr-bill.cirr.com, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42339: Release process doesn't document required securelevel settings X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:41:52 -0000 Synopsis: Release process doesn't document required securelevel settings State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:41:00 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: I added a sentence about this to release(7). I will MFC this change in a few days. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:41:00 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I added a sentence about this to release(7). I will MFC this change in a few days. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42339 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 04:47:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F0F37B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4B143FA3; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:47:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37BlMUp051595; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:47:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37BlMDf051591; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304071147.h37BlMDf051591@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pepper@rockefeller.edu, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/38817: /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents /boot.conf, but 'man boot.conf' fails. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:47:23 -0000 Synopsis: /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents /boot.conf, but 'man boot.conf' fails. State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:46:29 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Do you mean boot.config? That is an optional file and I don't think we need a MLINK for it. I think boot(8) is sufficient and we can close this PR. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=38817 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 04:59:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEE537B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC94B43F93; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37BxjUp054247; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37BxjZk054243; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304071159.h37BxjZk054243@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/35823: [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Developers Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:59:46 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Developers Handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:58:04 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Hi Hiten, this looks OK but lets just wait until we have some actual content to contribute. Reorganizing the stub chapters and sections won't really gain us anything as long as they are still just place-holders. Assuming that all of these chapters were filled in, then yes, I would like to see your reorg here. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35823 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 06:30:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A1137B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8CB43FE0 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37DUGUp099019 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37DUGR6099018; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304071330.h37DUGR6099018@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Sergey A.Osokin" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C8137B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.org.ru (www.freebsd.org.ru [194.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386A643FB1 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@freebsd.org.ru) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 49E8A5D; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:27:25 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <20030407132725.49E8A5D@freebsd.org.ru> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:27:25 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey A.Osokin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50677: [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Sergey A.Osokin" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 13:30:18 -0000 >Number: 50677 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 07 06:30:16 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sergey A. Osokin >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Description: update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Add some question and answers (tips and tricks). Look at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48038 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.522 diff -u -r1.522 book.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 2003/04/07 02:06:46 1.522 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 2003/04/07 13:21:55 @@ -2228,6 +2228,26 @@ chapter. + + + + I have a problem with boot from FreeBSD 5.0 CD. + + + + When FreeBSD boot, press the space key, it says + + OK + + then type + OK unset acpi_load + then + + OK boot + + for continue boot + process. + @@ -5364,6 +5384,68 @@ using is having problems. + + + + How to disable ACPI? + + + + Add following line + hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" + into your /boot/device.hints file. + + + + I think NEWCARD implementation for PC-card do not work for me, + and I have a message: + cbb0: unsupported card type detected. + What can i do? + + + + Try to use OLDCARD implementation. Remove from kernel config + file strings: + + device cbb + device pccard + device cardbus + + and just add: + + device pcic + device card 1 + + Recompile and install new kernel as described in Configuring the + FreeBSD Kernel. + + + + When &man.pccardd.8; started, it says: + No /dev/pccard[0|1] devices, exit. + But kernel already detects all PC-cards devices. Whats wrong? + + + + You must run &man.devd.8;. Run it manually and add following + line into your /etc/rc.conf + devd_enable="YES". + + + + Looks like my cards (network or sound) have conflicts with PC-cards + (or other devices). What can I do? As far I see, I haven't any + problems with FreeBSD-4.X. + + + + Try to add following line + + hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" + + into your /boot/loader.conf.local + and reboot your machine. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 06:31:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC4A37B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.org.ru (www.freebsd.org.ru [194.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA07B43FAF; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@freebsd.org.ru) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F1EC06B; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:31:50 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:31:50 +0400 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20030407133150.GQ30819@freebsd.org.ru> References: <200304071122.h37BM2L2046492@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304071122.h37BM2L2046492@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48038: [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into EAG X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: osa@FreeBSD.org.ru List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 13:31:52 -0000 On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 04:22:02AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Synopsis: [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into EAG > > State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback > State-Changed-By: murray > State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:20:31 PDT 2003 > State-Changed-Why: > I've added something about MAKEDEV / devfs to the EAG, but I think the > rest of this patch is more appropriate for the FAQ. Can you resubmit > this as an addition to the FAQ? The informal problem/solution items > you've created here don't fit well with this article, but they are > perfect for the FAQ. Thanks for taking the time to write this. > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48038 Done. Look at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/50677 Please close http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/48038 Thanks. -- Rgdz, /"\ ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, \ / AGAINST HTML MAIL http://ozz.pp.ru/ X AND NEWS / \ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 06:40:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B8E37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9493843FB1 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37De8Up002763 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37De8Yx002762; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304071340.h37De8Yx002762@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Alexandr Kovalenko Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A9337B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (external.osdn.org.ua [212.40.34.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2911D43F93 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 06:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (never@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h37DdJ8B029532 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:39:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) id h37DdJr9029528; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:39:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never) Message-Id: <200304071339.h37DdJr9029528@kurush.osdn.org.ua> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:39:19 +0300 (EEST) From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50678: [PATCH] books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml: xine now is under ports/multimedia/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexandr Kovalenko List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 13:40:10 -0000 >Number: 50678 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml: xine now is under ports/multimedia/ >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 07 06:40:07 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexandr Kovalenko >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p4 i386 >Organization: WNet ISP, Kiev, Ukraine, http://wnet.ua/ >Environment: System: FreeBSD kurush.osdn.org.ua 4.7-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p4 #0: Wed Feb 5 19:25:23 EET 2003 root@kurush.osdn.org.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/kurush i386 >Description: MFru: Xine now resides under ports/multimedia category Noted when: translating >How-To-Repeat: Take a look into docs/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml line 1276 >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.47 diff -u -r1.47 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 20 Jan 2003 13:19:19 -0000 1.47 +++ chapter.sgml 7 Apr 2003 13:34:56 -0000 @@ -1273,7 +1273,7 @@ all in one video solution, but also in producing a reusable base library and a modular executable which can be extended with plugins. It comes both as a package and as a port, graphics/xine. + role="package">multimedia/xine. The good news is that the above is pretty much true. The xine player is still very rough around the edges, but it is clearly off to a >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 07:11:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2300837B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 07:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E1443FA3; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37EBqUp027363; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37EBq2J027359; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:11:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:11:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200304071411.h37EBq2J027359@freefall.freebsd.org> To: never@nevermind.kiev.ua, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50678: [PATCH] books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml: xine now is under ports/multimedia/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 14:11:53 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml: xine now is under ports/multimedia/ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 16:11:30 CEST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50678 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 09:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEE137B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7530743FBD; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <20030407162221001002lm3te>; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:22:21 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37GMKs0040146; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37GMKDW040145; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:22:20 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: "Bruce A. Mah" , World Wide Web Owner , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030407162220.GA40100@intruder.bmah.org> References: <200304040654.h346sXah017211@www.freebsd.org> <20030404070136.GA40667@intruder.bmah.org> <20030404080640.GB7008@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030404173546.GA32903@intruder.bmah.org> <20030407075429.GB527@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030407075429.GB527@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 16:22:24 -0000 --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline If memory serves me right, Peter Pentchev wrote: > If you ksu'd without '-l' (or just '-'), then ksu did not set > the USER env variable, and $USER is exactly what web.site.mk > uses to determine whether you are the World Wide Web or not... > or rather, which user to install files as. D'oh! Of course you're right. Thanks, Bruce. --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+kaW72MoxcVugUsMRApACAKDbCdg7mNc8I+jMSJDrbdXgmAqqmACgsYdj pTUr58wdEUCRUBXdtVe+iv4= =D3++ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 11:00:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB5537B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938DA43FCB for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h37I0dUp041725 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h37I0ckx041716 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304071800.h37I0ckx041716@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 18:00:45 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2001/10/31] i386/31671 doc 4.4 installer hangs at " Mounting root fr 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/08/20] docs/41824 doc LANG is not documented in setlocale(3) o [2002/08/22] docs/41892 doc Patch to fix slowdowns of documentation b o [2002/09/01] docs/42292 doc PPP documentation should use quote marks o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/10/07] docs/43776 doc /etc/sshd_config settings overridden by P o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o [2002/12/15] docs/46286 doc there's an omission and an error in the n o [2003/02/19] docs/48472 doc Documentation unreadable. o [2003/02/26] docs/48728 doc Option "device agp" in GENERIC kernel on o [2003/03/30] docs/50457 doc /etc/defaults/rc.conf pccard_ifconfig cou 16 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/15] misc/33926 doc Search function on website can not access o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/03] docs/35523 doc manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) o [2002/03/05] docs/35575 doc Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/l o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/07] docs/35649 doc mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot. o [2002/03/07] docs/35652 doc bsd.README seriously obsolete o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/15] docs/35941 doc cd(4) manual doesn't mention "target" use o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/03/28] docs/36459 doc tftp(1) manual's "get" syntax/description o [2002/04/01] docs/36628 doc header an footer of openssl manpages are o [2002/04/18] docs/37221 doc obsolete reference to seqpacket in mount_ o [2002/04/25] docs/37470 doc jail field not documented in procfs(5) o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page o [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/15] docs/38117 doc New FAQ entry for memory states o [2002/05/15] docs/38118 doc New FAQ entry for amount of free memory o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/22] docs/38426 doc extra manpage .Xr to locate relevant sysc o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/27] docs/38647 doc cvsupit built-in instructions are slightl o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha f [2002/06/02] docs/38817 doc /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents / o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/10] docs/39129 doc handbook; type WRT simulating postscript o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/12] docs/39214 doc No my(4) man page o [2002/06/14] docs/39293 doc the dumpon man page incorrectly states th o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39822 doc firewall.7: change "Mbits" to "Mbits/s" a o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/05] docs/40234 doc Typos and language cleanup in /usr/share/ o [2002/07/07] docs/40313 doc Grammar, wording, and clarifications for o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/22] docs/40910 doc [PATCH] Typos & grammer fixes for /usr/sh o [2002/07/22] docs/40911 doc [PATCH] Minor improvements for /usr/share o [2002/07/24] docs/40952 doc login.conf should mention that "idletime" o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/07/30] docs/41167 doc adventure.6 man-page, add section AUTHORS o [2002/08/02] docs/41263 doc [PATCH] Clarifications and minor grammer o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/12] docs/41578 doc Incorrect #include in the usb(4) manpage o [2002/08/12] docs/41580 doc usb(4) manpage: Structures' fields aren't o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41879 doc cleanup to DOCROOT/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl o [2002/08/22] docs/41919 doc MINI kernel for bootfloppy (Handbook p.34 a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/09/01] docs/42293 doc copystr(9) man page incorrectly describes o [2002/09/26] docs/43410 doc hardware-i386.html doesn't even mention p o [2002/09/27] docs/43416 doc pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page f [2002/10/09] docs/43864 doc Minor documentation to add o [2002/10/10] docs/43899 doc incorrect info in man page for fetch (8) o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/18] docs/44217 doc Problematic PDF version of handbook for 4 o [2002/10/21] docs/44337 doc [PATCH] netstat(1) manual references none o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/14] docs/45294 doc LINT notes are murky re PQ_CACHESIZE sett o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/11/25] docs/45702 doc Error in manual page ssh_config(5) o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/02] docs/46709 doc tables in terminfo.5 are broken o [2003/01/05] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/09] docs/46919 doc setkey(8) references the wrong RFC for ES o [2003/01/14] docs/47085 doc boot(8) manpage is incomplete according t o [2003/01/27] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/30] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing o [2003/02/02] docs/47824 doc auto-create plist chapter should mention o [2003/02/05] docs/47991 doc Handbook section on upgrading kernel says o [2003/02/06] docs/48018 doc telnetd(8) manpage appears incorrect rega f [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/08] docs/48083 doc [PATCH] missing #include in manpage for i o [2003/02/08] docs/48097 doc Manual for camediaplay(1) falsely describ o [2003/02/08] docs/48101 doc There's no documentation on the fixit dis o [2003/02/08] docs/48104 doc disktab(1) manpage omits b0 and b1, etc. o [2003/02/12] docs/48210 doc make -q only does what the manpage says i o [2003/02/17] docs/48407 doc PPP section needs a cleanup. o [2003/02/20] docs/48493 doc missing range information in arc4random() o [2003/02/28] docs/48767 doc wrong key numbers for left/right windows o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/14] docs/50013 doc [PATCH] add much more russian holydays o [2003/03/21] docs/50181 doc localtime_r man page doesn't exist o [2003/03/22] docs/50200 doc Handbook "Kerberos" chapter doesn't quali o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/03/27] docs/50349 doc make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! o [2003/03/28] docs/50390 doc no man page for suser_xxx() o [2003/03/28] docs/50391 doc Incorrect information in a man o [2003/03/29] docs/50426 doc [PATCH] Fix another minor typo in ifnet(9 o [2003/03/30] docs/50463 doc netstat(1) points to mbuf(9) which doesn' o [2003/03/30] docs/50469 doc "mount_msdos -W" issue in handbook o [2003/03/31] docs/50503 doc Upgate to the agp(4) manual page o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re o [2003/04/07] docs/50664 doc Handbook 12.4.1 (CCD) needs work o [2003/04/07] docs/50665 doc Handbook 19.4.5 uses 1st person o [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ 152 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 18:21:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2272837B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 18:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DB043FB1 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 18:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B164C39 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 21:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h381Lc6C040190 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 21:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 21:21:38 -0400 From: "J. Brown" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030408012138.GA40148@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030407131220.J44062@doriath.saers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030407131220.J44062@doriath.saers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: Project model X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 01:21:40 -0000 * Niklas Saers Mailinglistaccount [2003-04-07 07:32]: > Hi all, > > I'd like to present > http://niklas.saers.com/freebsd-model/freebsd-model.html for review. Great job! Something like this has been needed for quite a while. I found the material quite informative. I personally would like to see it incorporated into the handbook - perhaps as an appendix. Needs quite a bit of cleanup though... :-) One big thing I did notice- there has just been a switch from majordomo to Mailman for mailing lists. Might want to revisit that section (1.6.4). > > Known issues: > I don't know any of these answers... > > Cheers > > Nik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > jpb === From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 18:58:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C669737B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 18:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264CE43FBD for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 18:58:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1556551A7B; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:28:37 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:28:37 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Niklas Saers Mailinglistaccount Message-ID: <20030408015837.GH61300@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030407131220.J44062@doriath.saers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1xGqyAVbSpAWs5A" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030407131220.J44062@doriath.saers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Project model X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 01:58:41 -0000 --X1xGqyAVbSpAWs5A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 7 April 2003 at 13:30:10 +0200, Niklas Saers Mailinglistaccount wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to present > http://niklas.saers.com/freebsd-model/freebsd-model.html for review. This looks excellent! The structure is very clear, though I haven't had time to check for accuracy. > Known issues: > 1) freebsd-code-model.png (the rather ugly hand-done drawing) will be > replaced soon (I'm getting help from someone a lot more skilled at drawing > than I am :) ). It serves its purpose. > 2) The reference section needs to be cleaned up (a couple references not > working properly), and the xrefs all the sudden refer to sections, so I > need to go through my compile options. > > 3) The couple of notes in brackets are for my updating of the document. > > A couple of questions before doing a send-pr, > - do you prefer another license for documentation than the standard > two-clause license? That should be fine. > - are there any good tools for DocBook XML => DocBook SGML conversion? Not that I know of, but that doesn't mean anything. A couple of suggestions: 1. Offer the document alternatively as a series of pages rather than one big web page. I personally prefer the latter, but people on a slow link might find it a bit much. 2. Find yourself a doc committer to commit it for you. It will probably be faster. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --X1xGqyAVbSpAWs5A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+kizNIubykFB6QiMRAkxhAJ9Iy40MIqPucEg2IRLrkihiCncMDwCgkCbe SgV41xqp1HneHjY8DBZQC6M= =PibY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1xGqyAVbSpAWs5A-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 19:31:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B2037B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3432143FA3; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h382VEUp089182; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h382VDDb089178; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:31:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304080231.h382VDDb089178@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pepper@rockefeller.edu, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/40313: Grammar, wording, and clarifications for handbook/security/chapter.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 02:31:14 -0000 Synopsis: Grammar, wording, and clarifications for handbook/security/chapter.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 19:29:43 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: I committed many of the changes in this patch, found some others, and left a few of your changes uncommitted since I don't agree with them. This chapter needs a lot more work. Your patch here was very much appreciated. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=40313 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 19:49:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA62137B401; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B43C43F85; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h382nuUp091607; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h382ntN0091603; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304080249.h382ntN0091603@freefall.freebsd.org> To: osa@FreeBSD.org.ru, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50677: [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 02:49:57 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 19:46:21 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Arghh.. I just lost my extensive comments about this patch. The short of it is that this doesn't even validate (missing tags, etc..) and the English is ambiguous. I think every sentence needs revision. Here is the last bit of my previous comment that I was able to salvage from my editor on freefall : "The NEWCARD implementation for PC-card does not work for me." .. Also, The cbb0 line might be better if enclosed in . I won't go on, but each entry needs extensive grammatical improvement as well as some markup changes. Maybe someone else can work with you to improve the English? It would be nice to add these technical issues to the FAQ. Thanks for your time spent writing this up. Your contributions are appreciated. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50677 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 02:21:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD2537B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 02:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.org.ru (www.freebsd.org.ru [194.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE17E43FCB; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 02:21:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@freebsd.org.ru) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BDA745D; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:21:03 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:21:03 +0400 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20030408092103.GD4389@freebsd.org.ru> References: <200304080249.h382ntN0091603@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304080249.h382ntN0091603@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50677: [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: osa@FreeBSD.org.ru List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 09:21:07 -0000 On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 07:49:55PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Synopsis: [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml > > State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback > State-Changed-By: murray > State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 19:46:21 PDT 2003 > State-Changed-Why: > Arghh.. I just lost my extensive comments about this patch. The short > of it is that this doesn't even validate (missing tags, etc..) and the > English is ambiguous. I think every sentence needs revision. Here is > the last bit of my previous comment that I was able to salvage from my > editor on freefall : > > "The NEWCARD implementation for PC-card does not work for me." .. > > Also, The cbb0 line might be better if enclosed in . > > I won't go on, but each entry needs extensive grammatical improvement > as well as some markup changes. > > Maybe someone else can work with you to improve the English? > > It would be nice to add these technical issues to the FAQ. > > Thanks for your time spent writing this up. Your contributions are > appreciated. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50677 OK, please review next version of patch http://ozz.pp.ru/patches/patch-faq Thanks. -- Rgdz, /"\ ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, \ / AGAINST HTML MAIL http://ozz.pp.ru/ X AND NEWS / \ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 02:37:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1119137B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 02:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA1243F93; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 02:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (localhost.de.freebsd.org [127.0.0.1])h389b5nd016116; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:37:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost)h389b4Pc016111; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.6) id h389RwjN001473; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:27:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:27:58 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: "Philip M. Gollucci" Message-ID: <20030408112758.B1361@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <200303052346.21857.philip@p6m7g8.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200303052346.21857.philip@p6m7g8.com>; from philip@p6m7g8.com on Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:46:21PM +0000 cc: wosch@freebsd.org cc: tom@freebsd.org cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synopsis: Modify the CGI scripts url.cgi, ports.cgi, pds.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 09:37:08 -0000 On 2003-03-05 23:46:21 +0000, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > > Synopsis: Modify the CGI scripts url.cgi, ports.cgi, pds.cgi and the script > portindex to use the Perl FreeBSD::Ports modules. These modules also need > thorough testing. > > Whats the status on this ? > > out of curiousity, html.pl why not just CGI.pm ? Hi Philip, the ports cgi scripts are very old and ugly perl4 scripts. These scripts are stable, but hard to maintain. Feel free to re-rewrite the scripts using modern perl libraries and FreeBSD::Ports ;-) -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 05:30:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD53937B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 05:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30F643FBD for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 05:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h38CU8Up052952 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 05:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h38CU8Pf052951; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 05:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 05:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304081230.h38CU8Pf052951@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Sergey A.Osokin" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959E037B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 05:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.org.ru (freebsd.org.ru [194.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD0243FAF for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 05:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@freebsd.org.ru) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF4CE6B; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:25:39 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <20030408122539.CF4CE6B@freebsd.org.ru> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:25:39 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey A.Osokin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50720: [PATCH] doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml: add QAs (scheduler) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Sergey A.Osokin" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 12:30:10 -0000 >Number: 50720 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml: add QAs (scheduler) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 08 05:30:08 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sergey A. Osokin >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: n/a >Environment: System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml: add QAs (scheduler) Obtained from -current@ (des@ answers) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.526 diff -u -r1.526 book.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 7 Apr 2003 18:37:59 -0000 1.526 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 8 Apr 2003 11:58:22 -0000 @@ -5355,6 +5355,37 @@ + + + + How can I verify which scheduler is in use on a running system? + + + + Just type: + &prompt.root; sysctl kern.quantum + If you see + unknown oid 'kern.quantum' + it means that you use new SCHED_ULE scheduler, but + if you see + kern.quantum: 100000 + that means your system runs under old SCHED_4BSD scheduler. + + + + + + + What does it mean 'kern.quantum'? + + + + It is the maximum number of ticks a process can run without being + preempted. It is specific to the 4BSD scheduler, so you can use it + presence or absence to determine which scheduler is in use. + + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 07:00:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEE437B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC3D43FBF for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from user56.net310.fl.sprint-hsd.net ([198.70.220.56] helo=k6-2.weeble.com) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 192teV-0000Bn-00; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 07:00:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:01:09 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: Rob Lahaye Message-Id: <20030408100109.35ed7a42.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Advanced Installation Guide: add installing over PPPoE X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 14:00:45 -0000 Rob Lahaye wrote: > Hi, > > Instead of having PPPoE install guidelines info on a remote website, > why not adding this to the handbook? The "Advanced Installation Guide" > section would be the best place for this. > > The site I'm talking about is: > http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/pppoe/article.html > > Regards, > Rob. Hi Rob, I presume that the PPPoE install worked for you. In general, I agree that the documentation should be in a central site. I've not added this to the Handbook primarily because its not an "officially" supported installation method. Typically this method is only needed is in a situation that a user with PPPoE does not have a cd burner. To my knowledge, I think it has come up on the lists twice in the past year so its not a common installation method. I would prefer to see this option added to Sysinstall so that it is more straightforward and does not produce warnings/errors that have to be ignored. I'm not a coder but I suspect that adding anything to Sysinstall causes problems with fitting it on the floppies. The method I've described in the document is a kludge at best. It is just rough notes I kept while experimenting and I've not gotten back to cleaning them up. What does everyone think? Should we add something to the Handbook or should I just do some clean up and leave them where they are at? My initial reaction is to not set any precedent of including unsupported methods in the Handbook. Thanks, Randy From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 07:08:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6799B37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esso.tky.hut.fi (esso.tky.hut.fi [130.233.22.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA2D43F93 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:08:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ruffneck@esso.tky.hut.fi) Received: by esso.tky.hut.fi (Postfix, from userid 1400) id DCE4F59C3; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:08:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by esso.tky.hut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6DA592E for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:08:29 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:08:29 +0300 (EEST) From: ruffneck To: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030408165840.X94833-100000@esso.tky.hut.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Documentation of xfree, antialiased fonts and gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 14:08:35 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html#X11-WM-GNOME-ANTIALIAS In that document firstly using port x11/gdkxft is recommended. However that port didn't compile unless port x11-fonts/fontconfig is installed. Giving that information in the handbook could be beneficial? sincerely From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 07:54:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACBC37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F49743FD7 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:54:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h38EsdDn083904 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:54:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h38EsdjB083903 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:54:39 -0400 From: "Michael W . Lucas" To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030408105439.A83891@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Subject: No longer a FAQ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 14:54:41 -0000 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/hardware.html#PSMERR This information is no longer frequently asked. If anyone actually asked about it, they'd be told to update to 3-stable if not 4-stable. Can anyone think of a reason why we shouldn't cut this FAQ entirely? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 08:27:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F059F37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442EC43F85 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h38FReDn084028 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:27:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h38FRe8i084027 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:27:40 -0400 From: "Michael W . Lucas" To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Subject: Chainsawing the "Mouse" section of the FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:27:42 -0000 Folks, I've been spending some time on the FAQ, and came across our "Mouse" section of the "Hardware Support" section. It's not exactly user-friendly, is badly organized, and in my opinion just generally skanky. It's been added to over the years, but nobody's ever taken a good look at the organization. Current mouse questions: 4.11. I have an unusual bus mouse. How do I set it up? 4.12. How do I use my PS/2 (``mouse port'' or ``keyboard'') mouse? 4.13. Is it possible to use a mouse in any way outside the X Window system? 4.14. How do I cut and paste text with a mouse in the text console? 4.15. Does FreeBSD support any USB mice? 4.16. My mouse has a fancy wheel and buttons. Can I use them in FreeBSD? 4.17. Why does my wheel-equipped PS/2 mouse cause my mouse cursor to jump around the screen? 4.18. How do I use the mouse/trackball/touchpad on my laptop? I propose rearranging these as follows: What sorts of mice does FreeBSD support? includes: 4.11, 4.12, 4.15, 4.16, 4.18. Give device driver names but refer users to LINT/NOTES and man pages for kernel configurations How do I use a mouse in console mode? includes: 4.13, 4.14 Any comments? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 10:01:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71D837B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D90643FCB; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003040817013300200jco4ve>; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:01:33 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h38H1Ws0047920; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h38H1WmB047919; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:01:32 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Nik Clayton Message-ID: <20030408170132.GA47828@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030313152137.GA97343@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20030313153404.GB18271@intruder.bmah.org> <7mptovi7wc.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> <20030313122030.C25592@freebsdmall.com> <20030314001033.GC72128@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030316234847.GA25279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317223030.GD1051@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317230702.GF1051@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317231406.GA19216@intruder.bmah.org> <20030329130325.GG875@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FCuugMFkClbJLl1L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030329130325.GG875@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenJade and TeTeX (was: Re: Building the FTP tree (was Re: en_US/books/handbook/book.pd* b0rken)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:01:38 -0000 --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Moving doceng@ discussion to doc@ as per suggestion.] If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:14:06PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > I'm also going to test (probably tomorrow, now) OpenJade with this > > > environment, to get thumbnails in the PDF output. > >=20 > > You mean bookmarks, right? None of my OpenJade builds have ever given > > me thumbnails, but bookmarks work like a charm. >=20 > I did indeed mean bookmarks. I've just tested it here, and as you say, > it works like a charm. >=20 > I'm really quite impressed with that. Yeah. It looks quite spiffy. > So the suggestion is two-fold: >=20 > 1. Remove the hack in the Handbook's PDF build process to use > tex, since the new port can handle the size of the Handbook. >=20 > 2. Switch to OpenJade for the build to get bookmarks in the PDF > files. >=20 > Thoughts? We should probably shift this discussion over to doc@. The only problem I see with #2 is that it'll probably take a flag day to do this. If we switch the doc infrastructure to use OpenJade (with or without an override), then existing Jade-based toolchains will break. I think the benefits outweigh the costs but I am uncertain how best to proceed. Do we give lots of advance warning via multiple HEADSUP messages and just go for it? Once #2 is done, #1 is easy. =46rom a RE standpoint (er, this RE's standpoint), now is a good time, since we just finished a release and the next one is two months away. Bruce. PS. For newcomers: The issue is whether to switch to using OpenJade (rather than Jade) for all doc builds. OpenJade is under active development, and we are forced to use OpenJade on the 64-bit platforms anyways. At one point, there were concerns about OpenJade's ability to handle non-English languages, but my impression is that those have been resolved. --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+kwBr2MoxcVugUsMRAiyPAJ9gqH5GDho2wFJ3Rur5PkliLk7TXACgj5N0 NVyh/xI3CWezwl5Pvk0ARSc= =iKz3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 10:29:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E92D37B404 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5A643F75 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h38HSOBG087584; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:28:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:26:57 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: ruffneck Message-Id: <20030409012657.572ac816.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030408165840.X94833-100000@esso.tky.hut.fi> References: <20030408165840.X94833-100000@esso.tky.hut.fi> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Documentation of xfree, antialiased fonts and gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:29:44 -0000 On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:08:29 +0300 (EEST) ruffneck wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html#X11-WM-GNOME-ANTIALIAS > > In that document firstly using port x11/gdkxft is recommended. However > that port didn't compile unless port x11-fonts/fontconfig is installed. > Giving that information in the handbook could be beneficial? > By building that from the ports collection, the x11-fonts/fontconfig port should be installed as a depend. If that is NOT happening, I would suggest you contact the port maintainer: grep 'MAINTAINER' /usr/ports/x11/gdkxft/Makefile -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 10:36:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601FB37B404; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F2243FAF; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:36:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by builder.freebsdmall.com (8.12.9/8.11.6) id h38Ha9oA020486; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:36:08 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-ID: <20030408103608.C43794@freebsdmall.com> References: <20030313153404.GB18271@intruder.bmah.org> <7mptovi7wc.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> <20030313122030.C25592@freebsdmall.com> <20030314001033.GC72128@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030316234847.GA25279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317223030.GD1051@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317230702.GF1051@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317231406.GA19216@intruder.bmah.org> <20030329130325.GG875@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030408170132.GA47828@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p/1JFEOz/hVXxMAZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030408170132.GA47828@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:01:32AM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: OpenJade and TeTeX (was: Re: Building the FTP tree (was Re: en_US/books/handbook/book.pd* b0rken)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:36:11 -0000 --p/1JFEOz/hVXxMAZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:01:32AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > 1. Remove the hack in the Handbook's PDF build process to use > > tex, since the new port can handle the size of the Handbook. > >=20 > > 2. Switch to OpenJade for the build to get bookmarks in the PDF > > files. > >=20 > > Thoughts? We should probably shift this discussion over to doc@. >=20 > The only problem I see with #2 is that it'll probably take a flag day > to do this. If we switch the doc infrastructure to use OpenJade (with > or without an override), then existing Jade-based toolchains will > break. I think the benefits outweigh the costs but I am uncertain how > best to proceed. Do we give lots of advance warning via multiple > HEADSUP messages and just go for it? As long as we continue to support Jade via 'USE_JADE' or something similar then this sounds like a good idea to me. > PS. For newcomers: The issue is whether to switch to using OpenJade > (rather than Jade) for all doc builds. OpenJade is under active > development, and we are forced to use OpenJade on the 64-bit platforms > anyways. At one point, there were concerns about OpenJade's ability > to handle non-English languages, but my impression is that those have > been resolved. It seems many people are generally under the assumption that OpenJade is under "active" development, but the last I checked that really wasn't the case. I had some patches to commit and they even gave me commit access on sourceforge ISTR but there was hardly anyone actually doing any work. When I've worked with it I have indeed found some cool new stuff, but I also have found other parts broken that "just worked" with regular jade. Have they started doing regular releases? I don't mean to be negative, because I have not evaluated OpenJade in over a year. I just want us to keep this in mind and move forward cautiously and not just because of misconceptions. So, do not break my jade setup (which may have special hacks for my print-output activities) to do this. You can switch the default to OpenJade, but regular jade must still be supported. - Murray --p/1JFEOz/hVXxMAZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQE+kweRtNcQog5FH30RAhUlAJ9q5mU5FIS+ENJQGmxOw5HghjhGnwCeMdJi gO4f/z5ZZT1uD143LLqOADM= =9Q2U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p/1JFEOz/hVXxMAZ-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 10:47:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5840037B40B for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B15943F75 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:47:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snowfall@gmx.co.uk) Received: (qmail 30622 invoked by uid 65534); 8 Apr 2003 17:47:35 -0000 Received: from icipnet-117.quicksilver.net.nz (EHLO COMPUTER.gmx.co.uk) (202.89.132.117) by mail.gmx.net (mp004-rz3) with SMTP; 08 Apr 2003 19:47:35 +0200 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030409035849.01ea3210@pop.qsi.net.nz> X-Sender: 6803933@213.165.65.60 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 05:32:18 +1200 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Craig Carey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Advice on 2.88MB FDDs; can't e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:47:42 -0000 FreeBSD is making available a 2.88MB floppy image for installing a bootable FreeBSD. The i386 documentation makes too small a mention of the file and that is not the case with that alpha documentation. An improvement would be to copy some helpful text from the alpha documentation into the i386 (v4.8 and v5) installation documentation. However 2.88MB floppies seem to be very difficult to buy so maybe the "boot.flp" file would be deleted (or else a mention made of how the 2.88MB floppy would be copied onto an LS-120 zip disk drive). Here is a copy of he paragraph in the alpha documentation: | 1.3 Floppy Disk Image Instructions | ... | | If you're on an alpha machine that can network-boot its floppy images or | you have a 2.88MB or LS-120 floppy capable of taking a 2.88MB image on | an x86 machine, you may wish to use the single (but twice as large) | boot.flp image. It contains the contents of kern.flp and mfsroot.flp on | a single floppy. This file should also be used as the boot file for | those mastering ``El Torito'' bootable CD images. See the mkisofs(8) | command for more information. | | 1.4 Installing FreeBSD from CDROM or the Internet ... Came from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/5.0-RELEASE/INSTALL.HTM It looks like that is designed to discourage people from thinking that they want a 2.88MB floppy disk drive. The difficulty of getting a 2.88MB floppy disk drive is not the only problem. Also the install may fail when the 2 alternative files to "boot.flp" are used (and they are "kern.flp and mfsroot.flp"). That text says the the boot.flp file is not needed and it explains why. These similar documentation files do not have that paragraph or anything similar: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/5.0-RELEASE/INSTALL.HTM ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.8-RELEASE/INSTALL.HTM Here are the websites of makers of floppy disk drives and it seems that 2.88MB floppy disk drives are becoming hard to find: TEAC: no 2.88MB floppy disk drives: http://www.teac.com/DSPD/floppy.html Sony: no 2.88MB floppy disk drives: http://sony.storagesupport.com/floppydrive/index.htm Panasonic: no 2.88MB floppy disk drives: http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/computer/storage/fdd/ Here is a snapshot of a listing of the FreeBSD "boot.flp" file: Thus it is not just alpha machine owners who can't find 2.88MB floppy disk drives. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.8-RELEASE/floppies/ : ------------------------------------------------------- 04/03/2003 01:06 256 CHECKSUM.MD5 04/03/2003 01:06 57,852 README.TXT 04/03/2003 01:06 2,949,120 boot.flp 04/03/2003 01:06 1,474,560 fixit.flp 04/03/2003 01:06 1,474,560 kern.flp 04/03/2003 01:03 1,474,560 mfsroot.flp ------------------------------------------------------- The old unpopular 2.88MB floppy disk drive technology: http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/ohland/floppy.html#288_Mechanics I recommend that the "boot.flp" file be deleted. Thanks. Otherwise it provides a hope that it is possible to install FreeBSD successfully (at least once some ancient, or commonplace) piece of hardware is obtained. -- Craig Carey From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 10:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF2237B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDD543F3F for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h38HsEBG087661; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:54:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:52:47 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Michael W . Lucas" Message-Id: <20030409015247.677c1c28.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030408105439.A83891@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20030408105439.A83891@blackhelicopters.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No longer a FAQ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:54:22 -0000 On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:54:39 -0400 "Michael W . Lucas" wrote: > > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/hardware.html#PSMERR > > This information is no longer frequently asked. If anyone actually > asked about it, they'd be told to update to 3-stable if not 4-stable. > > Can anyone think of a reason why we shouldn't cut this FAQ entirely? > Not I. New users would most likely use one of the various 4.X releases. If users of 3.X still don't know the information here, they should consider a different operating system... Just my opinion. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 11:31:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D299537B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thalia.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA9943F85; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a101.otenet.gr [212.205.215.101]) by thalia.otenet.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h38IVimP027808; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:31:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h38IVi9n024227; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:31:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h38IVgrZ024226; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:31:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:31:42 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Niklas Saers Message-ID: <20030408183142.GB23907@gothmog.gr> References: <20030407131220.J44062@doriath.saers.com> <20030408015837.GH61300@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408015837.GH61300@wantadilla.lemis.com> cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Project model X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 18:31:56 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On 2003-04-08 11:28, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 7 April 2003 at 13:30:10 +0200, Niklas Saers Mailinglistaccount wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to present > > http://niklas.saers.com/freebsd-model/freebsd-model.html for review. > > This looks excellent! The structure is very clear, though I haven't > had time to check for accuracy. Indeed. Niklas, you have a great piece of work there! > > Known issues: > > 1) freebsd-code-model.png (the rather ugly hand-done drawing) will > > be replaced soon (I'm getting help from someone a lot more skilled > > at drawing than I am :) ). > > It serves its purpose. Aye. I'll help in my way if I can. We could probably convert some of the images to eps or pic code to save some repository space. Let me know what you want this to look like, and I'll try to convert the pictures to a non-binary format. > > - are there any good tools for DocBook XML => DocBook SGML conversion? > > Not that I know of, but that doesn't mean anything. > > A couple of suggestions: > > 1. Offer the document alternatively as a series of pages rather than > one big web page. I personally prefer the latter, but people on a > slow link might find it a bit much. This will automagically be taken care of if we use the current FreeBSD toolchain for building the document. FORMATS="html-split" will generate many small pages, while FORMATS="html" a big, one-page document. > 2. Find yourself a doc committer to commit it for you. It will > probably be faster. This could be me. Niklas, mail me at keramida@ and I'l take care of test-building this, writing any Makefile glue that's needed, and then adding this to our doc/ tree. - Giorgos --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+kxWO1g+UGjGGA7YRAvMCAJ9JXUohN4YOlz0ZsL8l/qPmBaTZHQCghZFu HTjlpgYVBNa0Bi/FDZeR7BQ= =FL0t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 11:37:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779A037B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F307543FA3 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:37:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mtaout08.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 14:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 14:36:50 -0400 From: Christopher Nehren In-reply-to: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> To: "Michael W . Lucas" Message-id: <1049827010.685.71.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-r535E30C5FHFxTpRyN3s"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 References: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chainsawing the "Mouse" section of the FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 18:37:52 -0000 --=-r535E30C5FHFxTpRyN3s Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2003-04-08 at 11:27, Michael W . Lucas wrote: > I propose rearranging these as follows: >=20 > What sorts of mice does FreeBSD support? > includes: 4.11, 4.12, 4.15, 4.16, 4.18. > Give device driver names but refer users to LINT/NOTES and man pa= ges > for kernel configurations >=20 > How do I use a mouse in console mode? > includes: 4.13, 4.14 >=20 > Any comments? I'd put something in there about using moused(8) along with XFree86 ("My mouse doesn't work in X!"; possibly linked to from a document on X about using moused with X). Also, a short bit comparing moused to gpm on Linux might help ("Why can't I click things in Links on the console?"[1]). [1]: If you -can-, this email serves as a very good reason to include such information. ;) --=-r535E30C5FHFxTpRyN3s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+kxbCUdqurN0fljsRAoJeAJ4+0z3uI/Q9TjCrlBb1p2lAfjBLFQCg0Frl gMmL7GYbC8gBsAzy2WNsaBA= =ES1A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-r535E30C5FHFxTpRyN3s-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 13:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04E337B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C153243F75; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 19301O-000CMC-00; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:48:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:48:46 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030408204846.GB46896@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , "Michael W . Lucas" , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030408105439.A83891@blackhelicopters.org> <20030409015247.677c1c28.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030409015247.677c1c28.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No longer a FAQ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 20:49:00 -0000 On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 01:52:47AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:54:39 -0400 > "Michael W . Lucas" wrote: > > > > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/hardware.html#PSMERR > > > > This information is no longer frequently asked. If anyone actually > > asked about it, they'd be told to update to 3-stable if not 4-stable. > > > > Can anyone think of a reason why we shouldn't cut this FAQ entirely? > > Not I. New users would most likely use one of the various 4.X releases. > If users of 3.X still don't know the information here, they should > consider a different operating system... Agreed. No newcomers should attempt to install 3.X (in fact, they may have to cut their own release to do so!). Ceri -- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 14:00:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719BC37B4EF for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9EE43F75 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h38L0ZUp076396 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h38L0YXL076395; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304082100.h38L0YXL076395@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Tilman Linneweh Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8816637B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at (tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.34.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB8943F93 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tilman@tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.8/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h38Kp8V1086157 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:51:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tilman@tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at) Received: (from tilman@localhost) by tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.8/8.12.6/Submit) id h38Kp8l3086156; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:51:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200304082051.h38Kp8l3086156@tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:51:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Tilman Linneweh To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50735: Small diff to the developers handbook & outdated example X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tilman Linneweh List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:00:37 -0000 >Number: 50735 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Small diff to the developers handbook & outdated example >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 08 14:00:34 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tilman Linneweh >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 >Organization: Vienna University of Technology >Environment: System: FreeBSD tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #3: Tue Mar 25 16:31:43 CET 2003 root@tl.kom.tuwien.ac.at:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 >Description: Fixed dfr's name. perl isn't in the base system anymore. Additional: The contrib chapter uses tcl as an example for contrib'ed sw which also isn't in the base anymore. Unfortunately I don't have the knowledge yet to replace it with an actual example :-(. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- devhandbook.diff begins here --- ? devhandbook.diff Index: newbus/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/newbus/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 chapter.sgml --- newbus/chapter.sgml 6 Jan 2003 06:31:56 -0000 1.4 +++ newbus/chapter.sgml 8 Apr 2003 20:46:06 -0000 @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ Newbus Special thanks to Mathew N. Dodd, Warner Losh, Bill Paul. - Daug Rabson, Mike Smith, Peter Wemm and Scott Long. + Doug Rabson, Mike Smith, Peter Wemm and Scott Long. This chapter explains the Newbus device framework in detail. Index: policies/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/policies/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.28 diff -u -r1.28 chapter.sgml --- policies/chapter.sgml 22 May 2002 08:36:37 -0000 1.28 +++ policies/chapter.sgml 8 Apr 2003 20:46:06 -0000 @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@ Some parts of the FreeBSD distribution consist of software that is actively being maintained outside the FreeBSD project. For historical reasons, we call this contributed software. Some - examples are perl, gcc and patch. + examples are gcc and patch. Over the last couple of years, various methods have been used in dealing with this type of software and all have some number of --- devhandbook.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 14:31:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E821037B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net [65.242.152.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3548343FB1 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net) Received: from sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (localhost.v6.thrupoint.net [127.0.0.1]) by sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F90A4C39 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jpb@localhost)h38LVS2d041959 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:31:28 -0400 From: "J. Brown" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030408213128.GA41943@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: Chainsawing the "Mouse" section of the FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:31:30 -0000 * Michael W . Lucas [2003-04-08 13:33]: > > Folks, > > I've been spending some time on the FAQ, and came across our "Mouse" > section of the "Hardware Support" section. It's not exactly > user-friendly, is badly organized, and in my opinion just generally > skanky. It's been added to over the years, but nobody's ever taken a > good look at the organization. > > Current mouse questions: > > 4.11. I have an unusual bus mouse. How do I set it up? > 4.12. How do I use my PS/2 (``mouse port'' or ``keyboard'') mouse? > 4.13. Is it possible to use a mouse in any way outside the X Window system? > 4.14. How do I cut and paste text with a mouse in the text console? > 4.15. Does FreeBSD support any USB mice? > 4.16. My mouse has a fancy wheel and buttons. Can I use them in FreeBSD? > 4.17. Why does my wheel-equipped PS/2 mouse cause my mouse cursor to jump around the screen? > 4.18. How do I use the mouse/trackball/touchpad on my laptop? > > > I propose rearranging these as follows: > > What sorts of mice does FreeBSD support? > includes: 4.11, 4.12, 4.15, 4.16, 4.18. > Give device driver names but refer users to LINT/NOTES and man pages > for kernel configurations > > How do I use a mouse in console mode? > includes: 4.13, 4.14 > > Any comments? There are some excellent mouse configuration details at http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/4.3.0/mouse.html by Kazutaka Yokota. I used it extensively when I upgraded to XF86 4.3.x. Maybe you can integrate some of that material or provide a meta outline with pointers, etc. > > ==ml > > -- > Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org > http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > > Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 14:32:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF99337B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2977A43FAF for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 1930hg-000Co6-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:32:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:32:28 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030408213228.GA49197@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:32:32 -0000 make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean doesn't currently work properly; any objections to my committing the attached patch, which after a quick test seems to do the right thing ? Thanks, Ceri -- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 14:34:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2948537B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7675043F3F for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 1930jk-000CpB-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:34:36 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:34:36 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030408213436.GC49197@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030408213228.GA49197@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408213228.GA49197@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:34:38 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:32:28PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean doesn't currently work properly; any > objections to my committing the attached patch, which after a quick test > seems to do the right thing ? Harumph. Here's the patch this time. Ceri -- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xsl-clean.diff" Index: doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.78 diff -u -r1.78 doc.docbook.mk --- doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 16 Feb 2003 14:59:30 -0000 1.78 +++ doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 8 Apr 2003 21:30:57 -0000 @@ -325,6 +325,10 @@ .endif .endif +.if (${STYLESHEET_TYPE} == "xsl") +CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.xml +.endif + .if (${LOCAL_CSS_SHEET} != ${CSS_SHEET}) && \ (${_cf} == "html-split" || ${_cf} == "html-split.tar" || \ ${_cf} == "html" || ${_cf} == "html.tar" || ${_cf} == "txt") --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 14:44:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0212137B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BCC43FB1 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:44:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h38LiiBG088066; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:44:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 05:43:17 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <20030409054317.6ef3cdf1.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030408213436.GC49197@submonkey.net> References: <20030408213228.GA49197@submonkey.net> <20030408213436.GC49197@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:44:48 -0000 On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:34:36 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:32:28PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean doesn't currently work properly; any > > objections to my committing the attached patch, which after a quick test > > seems to do the right thing ? > > Harumph. Here's the patch this time. > > Ceri > -- > Ceri, this looks great. Be my guest and apply it. Thanks for doing this! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 14:54:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA4337B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4676A43FAF; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 19312l-000Du2-00; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:54:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:54:15 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030408215415.GE49197@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030408213228.GA49197@submonkey.net> <20030408213436.GC49197@submonkey.net> <20030409054317.6ef3cdf1.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030409054317.6ef3cdf1.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:54:17 -0000 --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 05:43:17AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:34:36 +0100 > Ceri Davies wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:32:28PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > > make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean doesn't currently work properly; any > > > objections to my committing the attached patch, which after a quick test > > > seems to do the right thing ? > > > > Harumph. Here's the patch this time. > > Ceri, this looks great. Be my guest and apply it. Thanks for > doing this! Hmm, hang on; I've missed something. Please see new patch (attached). Ceri -- --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xsl-clean.diff" Index: doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.78 diff -u -r1.78 doc.docbook.mk --- doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 16 Feb 2003 14:59:30 -0000 1.78 +++ doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 8 Apr 2003 21:50:21 -0000 @@ -325,6 +325,10 @@ .endif .endif +.if (${STYLESHEET_TYPE} == "xsl") +CLEANFILES+= ${DOC}.xml .sxerr +.endif + .if (${LOCAL_CSS_SHEET} != ${CSS_SHEET}) && \ (${_cf} == "html-split" || ${_cf} == "html-split.tar" || \ ${_cf} == "html" || ${_cf} == "html.tar" || ${_cf} == "txt") --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 14:56:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2C337B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ACA43F75 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:56:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h38LumBG088117 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:56:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 05:55:20 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030409055520.1b06ecfc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030408215415.GE49197@submonkey.net> References: <20030408213228.GA49197@submonkey.net> <20030408213436.GC49197@submonkey.net> <20030409054317.6ef3cdf1.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030408215415.GE49197@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:56:50 -0000 On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:54:15 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 05:43:17AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:34:36 +0100 > > Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:32:28PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > > > > make STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl clean doesn't currently work properly; any > > > > objections to my committing the attached patch, which after a quick test > > > > seems to do the right thing ? > > > > > > Harumph. Here's the patch this time. > > > > Ceri, this looks great. Be my guest and apply it. Thanks for > > doing this! > > Hmm, hang on; I've missed something. Please see new patch (attached). > Oh the .sxerr's. Good catch! :) This looks good. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 15:24:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6BA37B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D0643F3F; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:24:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 1931WQ-000FSi-00; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:24:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:24:54 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030408222454.GF49197@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: Patch to the textproc/docproj port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:24:58 -0000 --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In order to build with the STYLESHEET_TYPE set to xsl, the following patches are necessary. Any objections (specifically from Nik, as he's down as the textproc/docproj maintainer) ? Note that the tree still won't build with these patches, but it's stepping in the right direction. Thanks, Ceri -- --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="docbookx.dtd" Index: doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.79 diff -u -r1.79 doc.docbook.mk --- doc.docbook.mk 8 Apr 2003 22:00:23 -0000 1.79 +++ doc.docbook.mk 8 Apr 2003 22:22:13 -0000 @@ -393,7 +393,7 @@ # Better approaches to handling this would be most welcome ${DOC}.xml: ${SRCS} - echo '' > ${DOC}.xml + echo '' > ${DOC}.xml ${SX} -xlower -xndata ${MASTERDOC} 2> .sxerr | tail -n +2 >> ${DOC}.xml @-grep -v 'reference to internal SDATA entity' .sxerr --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=docproj Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/pcvs/ports/textproc/docproj/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.41 Makefile --- Makefile 7 Mar 2003 06:11:39 -0000 1.41 +++ Makefile 8 Apr 2003 22:18:19 -0000 @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ # PORTNAME= docproj -PORTVERSION= 1.10 +PORTVERSION= 1.11 CATEGORIES= textproc MASTER_SITES= # empty DISTFILES= # empty @@ -30,7 +30,9 @@ ${PREFIX}/bin/links:${PORTSDIR}/www/links1 \ ${PREFIX}/bin/xsltproc:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/libxslt \ ${PREFIX}/bin/scr2png:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/scr2png \ - ${PREFIX}/bin/scr2txt:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/scr2txt + ${PREFIX}/bin/scr2txt:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/scr2txt \ + ${PREFIX}/share/xsl/docbook/html/docbook.xsl:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/docbook-xsl \ + ${PREFIX}/share/xml/docbook/4.2/docbookx.dtd:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/docbook-xml .if defined(WITH_OPENJADE) || ${MACHINE_ARCH} != "i386" RUN_DEPENDS+= openjade:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/openjade --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 15:33:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A33A37B40A for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B104D43F3F for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5F8C4F2; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 00:33:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EA6FF45C2; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 00:32:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 00:32:58 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer To: "Michael W . Lucas" Message-ID: <20030408223258.GG2151@unixpages.org> References: <20030408105439.A83891@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408105439.A83891@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No longer a FAQ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:33:04 -0000 --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:54:39AM -0400, Michael W . Lucas wrote: >=20 > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/hardware.html#PSMERR >=20 > This information is no longer frequently asked. If anyone actually > asked about it, they'd be told to update to 3-stable if not 4-stable. >=20 > Can anyone think of a reason why we shouldn't cut this FAQ entirely? >=20 > =3D=3Dml >=20 I think this can be safely removed. =20 People who are still using FreeBSD 3 will most likely do so on the server side, so removing stuff about mouse handling should be ok. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+k04ZbHYXjKDtmC0RAvgFAJ95D+nKeEaglNkgu572fsxwmU5cUgCg0eCR HfNtlQZVg79S+gfLlQJduks= =Ateu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 15:57:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6A837B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA51843FA3; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h38Mv6Up008777; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h38Mv6bG008773; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 00:57:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 00:57:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200304082257.h38Mv6bG008773@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tilman@arved.de, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50735: Small diff to the developers handbook & outdated example X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:57:07 -0000 Synopsis: Small diff to the developers handbook & outdated example State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 9 00:54:58 CEST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Patch from PR applied with some minor modification, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 9 00:54:58 CEST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of replacing the TCL example with something more applicable http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50735 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 16:24:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7B737B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mf2.bredband.net (mf2.bredband.net [195.54.106.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DEF43F75 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:24:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mk-freebsd@bredband.net) Received: from localhost.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([213.112.193.73]) by mf2.bredband.net with ESMTP <20030408232359.MDBO273.mf2@localhost.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:23:59 +0200 Received: from c-49c170d5.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (localhost [127.0.0.1])with ESMTP id h38NNxQ5077178 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:23:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mk-freebsd@bredband.net) Received: (from martink@localhost) (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h38NNrEM077177 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:23:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mk-freebsd@bredband.net) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:23:53 +0200 From: Martin Karlsson To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030408232353.GA586@c-49c170d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Karlsson , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Powered-by: FreeBSD X-PGP-Keyid: 9C924660 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5970 BE22 2C33 4D8F 53FD 7E34 66FF 9332 9C92 4660 X-PGP-Key: http://www.krutov.org/martin_karlsson.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: should the docs cater to 5 or 4? or both? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:24:02 -0000 Hi, I'm doing some work on the handbook, section 12.6 (floppy disks), and I have some questions: Should I describe the methods (for formatting floppies, for example) applicable to 4-RELEASE or 5-RELEASE? Or both? I notice that the handbook states that it "covers [...] use of FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE", but at the same time, there are lots of references such as "Note: In FreeBSD 5.0, devfs(5) will automatically manage device nodes in /dev, so use of MAKEDEV is not necessary.". Taking fdformat(1) and low-level formatting of floppies as an example, in 4.8 one appends the size to the floppy device node (/dev/fd0.1440) while in 5.0 one uses the -f flag, with a value from fdcontrol(8). Which method should be described? Thanks for reading, and best regards, -- Martin Karlsson From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 16:37:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7899637B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A470143F75 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E739C1DC; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:37:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0DA7F45BA; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:37:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:37:45 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer To: Jed Clear Message-ID: <20030408233745.GJ2151@unixpages.org> References: <3E86ED7E.B47BD5F1@alum.mit.edu> <20030330134346.GA25469@unixpages.org> <3E870960.6932AC90@alum.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ONvqYzh+7ST5RsLk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E870960.6932AC90@alum.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTML in Handbook/Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:37:51 -0000 --ONvqYzh+7ST5RsLk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 10:12:32AM -0500, Jed Clear wrote: > If I point NS4.8 at my local Apache 2 server to look at the Handbook > included with 4.7-RELEASE-p7, then SOME of the screen shots behave > themselves, but others don't. In install-start.html, ones that don't > are the ones in the numbered lists
  • , Figures 2-3,4,5. >=20 > There isn't any diff between the docbook.css on www.freebsd.org and my > local copy, so I looked at the page source. NS4.8 displays the page > right with=20 > =20 > and fails with=20 >

    > outside of a
  • . I added the

    on my copy and it started > failing the same way. Inside the
  • that doesn't seem to make any > difference. >=20 > HTH. >=20 > Also, I fed > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.h= tml > to the W3C validator, and it complained about not being able to identify > the "character encoding". Once I chose ISO8859-1, it still complained, > although some of that seemed bogus to me (hardly an authority on the > subject). >=20 > -Jed >=20 Hi, thanks for taking the time to look into this. It is interesting to see that the

    tag seems to be causing the errors. I will take a look at our sgml sources to see if this can be resolved during the next few days. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --ONvqYzh+7ST5RsLk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+k11JbHYXjKDtmC0RApA6AJ48k97FM+BUfCX3uyAnXtZJ0XIL7gCeJPca 4Nk9VuC5D+jK99JcowO+ZLo= =n+uE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ONvqYzh+7ST5RsLk-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 16:41:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667A037B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D4643F75; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (cs242746-11.austin.rr.com [24.27.46.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069C61435E; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:41:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon Organization: Lonesome Dove Computing Services To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:44:41 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200304082320.h38NKqCc003229@repoman.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200304082320.h38NKqCc003229@repoman.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304081844.42002.linimon@lonesome.com> cc: Sean Chittenden Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en support.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:41:15 -0000 Over on cvs-doc, Sean Chittenden (seanc@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > I think the Conspectus was well intentioned, but there wasn't any > follow up on the idea. Nuke said paragraph. The problem with an idea like that is that it takes too much manual effort for the reward involved. I wind up saving "hints" and interesting stuff that should be in such a document, but time prohibits editing all but the most important into e.g. a PR for the FAQs. Probably other people do as well. I'd be interested in brainstorming some way to share that information with others -- it might supplant the "search the mailing lists and find the one posting that actually answers the question" problem, which is, after all, fairly boring :-) I don't know. A list of pointers to email messages? A blog? A 'best-of' mailing list? Any ideas? I think something like this could really be useful for newbies and other people coming up the curve on various parts of the system. mcl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 16:51:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92D037B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mf2.bredband.net (mf2.bredband.net [195.54.106.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3120C43FAF; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mk-freebsd@bredband.net) Received: from localhost.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([213.112.193.73]) by mf2.bredband.net with ESMTP <20030408235103.MDJG273.mf2@localhost.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se>; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:51:03 +0200 Received: from c-49c170d5.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (localhost [127.0.0.1])with ESMTP id h38Np2Q5077673; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:51:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mk-freebsd@bredband.net) Received: (from martink@localhost) (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h38Nov7G077672; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:50:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mk-freebsd@bredband.net) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:50:57 +0200 From: Martin Karlsson To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20030408235057.GB586@c-49c170d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Karlsson , Mark Linimon , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Sean Chittenden References: <200304082320.h38NKqCc003229@repoman.freebsd.org> <200304081844.42002.linimon@lonesome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304081844.42002.linimon@lonesome.com> X-Powered-by: FreeBSD X-PGP-Keyid: 9C924660 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5970 BE22 2C33 4D8F 53FD 7E34 66FF 9332 9C92 4660 X-PGP-Key: http://www.krutov.org/martin_karlsson.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en support.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:51:05 -0000 * Mark Linimon [2003-04-08 17.44 -0600]: [...snip...] > I wind up saving "hints" and interesting stuff that should be in such > a document, but time prohibits editing all but the most important into > e.g. a PR for the FAQs. Probably other people do as well. Yep. > I'd be interested in brainstorming some way to share that information > with others -- it might supplant the "search the mailing lists and > find the one posting that actually answers the question" problem, > which is, after all, fairly boring :-) > I don't know. A list of pointers to email messages? A blog? > A 'best-of' mailing list? Any ideas? A wiki perhaps? I often find the emacs-wiki useful, for instance... It could contain both hard info and pointers to where else to look. > I think something like this could really be useful for newbies > and other people coming up the curve on various parts of > the system. Yeah, it sounds like a good idea. > mcl martink -- Martin Karlsson From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 20:52:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4669D37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 20:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D308E43FA3 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 20:52:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4EFA421064; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 20:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 20:52:28 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: Martin Karlsson , Mark Linimon , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030409035228.GU79923@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <200304082320.h38NKqCc003229@repoman.freebsd.org> <200304081844.42002.linimon@lonesome.com> <20030408235057.GB586@c-49c170d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408235057.GB586@c-49c170d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en support.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 03:52:42 -0000 > > I'd be interested in brainstorming some way to share that information > > with others -- it might supplant the "search the mailing lists and > > find the one posting that actually answers the question" problem, > > which is, after all, fairly boring :-) > > > I don't know. A list of pointers to email messages? A blog? > > A 'best-of' mailing list? Any ideas? > > A wiki perhaps? I often find the emacs-wiki useful, for instance... > It could contain both hard info and pointers to where else to look. Wiki's are generally the kiss of death for structured data. I'd that focusing on making submitting data to FreeBSD.org easier instead of implimenting a blog/wiki (though it'd be great to get news.freebsd.org up and running as a project blog of sorts). -sc -- Sean Chittenden From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 22:39:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C4837B401; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7B543FA3; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:39:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003040905392400300saka3e>; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 05:39:24 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h395dNs0052747; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h395dNfZ052746; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:39:23 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20030409053923.GB52499@intruder.bmah.org> References: <7mptovi7wc.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> <20030313122030.C25592@freebsdmall.com> <20030314001033.GC72128@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030316234847.GA25279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317223030.GD1051@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317230702.GF1051@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030317231406.GA19216@intruder.bmah.org> <20030329130325.GG875@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030408170132.GA47828@intruder.bmah.org> <20030408103608.C43794@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CdrF4e02JqNVZeln" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408103608.C43794@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: OpenJade and TeTeX (was: Re: Building the FTP tree (was Re: en_US/books/handbook/book.pd* b0rken)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 05:39:27 -0000 --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:01:32AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > 1. Remove the hack in the Handbook's PDF build process to use > > > tex, since the new port can handle the size of the Handbook. > > >=20 > > > 2. Switch to OpenJade for the build to get bookmarks in the PDF > > > files. > > >=20 > > > Thoughts? We should probably shift this discussion over to doc@. > >=20 > > The only problem I see with #2 is that it'll probably take a flag day > > to do this. If we switch the doc infrastructure to use OpenJade (with > > or without an override), then existing Jade-based toolchains will > > break. I think the benefits outweigh the costs but I am uncertain how > > best to proceed. Do we give lots of advance warning via multiple > > HEADSUP messages and just go for it? >=20 > As long as we continue to support Jade via 'USE_JADE' or something > similar then this sounds like a good idea to me. OK, that's fair enough. There'll still be kind of a flag day but an easy way for people to deal with it. > > PS. For newcomers: The issue is whether to switch to using OpenJade > > (rather than Jade) for all doc builds. OpenJade is under active > > development, and we are forced to use OpenJade on the 64-bit platforms > > anyways. At one point, there were concerns about OpenJade's ability > > to handle non-English languages, but my impression is that those have > > been resolved. >=20 > It seems many people are generally under the assumption that OpenJade > is under "active" development, but the last I checked that really > wasn't the case. I had some patches to commit and they even gave me > commit access on sourceforge ISTR but there was hardly anyone actually > doing any work. When I've worked with it I have indeed found some > cool new stuff, but I also have found other parts broken that "just > worked" with regular jade. Interesting. Do you remember what was broken? Both of them seem to work fine for the release documentation but that's pretty simple compared to some of the stuff that you did with the print Handbook. > Have they started doing regular releases? Well, in our ports tree, jade's last version upgrade was January 1999. openjade was last upgrade happened in February 2003, to a release from the project made in December 2002 (the prior release before that was January 2002). Admittedly an incomplete history... Actually, now that I look more closely I see mention of a patch to our jade port that's supposed to make it at least compile on sparc64 and ia64. Hmmm. Bruce. --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+k7IL2MoxcVugUsMRAj6PAJ9gC42f4EROz2XdJf7lqTU0LMlwtwCfcbJz KtV4OBETtvHE/ItzFCWO+ps= =sHpx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 23:01:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DB937B401 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D439B43FB1 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with ESMTP id <20030409060131052003qhbse>; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 06:01:31 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3961Vs0052913; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3961Uhp052912; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:01:30 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Craig Carey Message-ID: <20030409060130.GA52774@intruder.bmah.org> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030409035849.01ea3210@pop.qsi.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030409035849.01ea3210@pop.qsi.net.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice on 2.88MB FDDs; can't e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 06:01:32 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline If memory serves me right, Craig Carey wrote: > I recommend that the "boot.flp" file be deleted. Thanks. Otherwise > it provides a hope that it is possible to install FreeBSD > successfully (at least once some ancient, or commonplace) piece of > hardware is obtained. I don't think that 2.88MB floppy disks were ever common, and I don't think there was ever the implication that you needed one to install FreeBSD. I'm not sure if I really understand your point. As for getting rid of boot.flp: For 4.X, we need boot.flp as a part of the release process because the data in this file is needed for a bootable CD-ROM (on the i386 anyways, don't know about alpha). Basically, the computer thinks that it's booting a 2.88MB floppy disk. For FreeBSD 5.X, we do "no-emulation" bootable CD-ROMs. They boot a full generic kernel from the CD-ROM, and the bootstrap loader pulls in a filesystem image containing the installation program and supporting utilities. Technically, I suppose that boot.flp isn't needed in this scenario, but it's not hurting anything. We're not losing that much disk space by including it. Bruce. --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+k7c62MoxcVugUsMRAqZPAKClGaDTjNpyTET0dNikZoB5NByhKACfRYwF jyLvl55l55bRbKeJDKBaVc0= =U3Iw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 03:16:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6664937B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 03:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thalia.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADCC43F93 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 03:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a208.otenet.gr [212.205.215.208]) by thalia.otenet.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h39AGGmP018033; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:16:26 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h39AGBUi096908; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:16:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h39AFp3Q096895; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:15:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:15:51 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Martin Karlsson Message-ID: <20030409101551.GA96784@gothmog.gr> References: <20030408232353.GA586@c-49c170d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408232353.GA586@c-49c170d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: should the docs cater to 5 or 4? or both? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 10:16:39 -0000 On 2003-04-09 01:23, Martin Karlsson wrote: > I'm doing some work on the handbook, section 12.6 (floppy disks), and I > have some questions: > [...] > Should I describe the methods (for formatting floppies, for example) > applicable to 4-RELEASE or 5-RELEASE? Or both? Both, IMHO. The Handbook needs to support both -stable and -current. We don't have separate versions of the docs for different releases, so you'll need to split the information in two parts. Probably in two sections like: Formatting floppies in 4.X or older versions ... Formatting floopies in 5.X or newer versions ... - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 03:29:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA92337B401; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 03:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-106-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B4443F85; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 03:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h39ATERf064394; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:29:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h39ATECO036049; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:29:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h39ATDh9036048; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:29:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:29:13 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030409102912.GA35976@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030408222454.GF49197@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408222454.GF49197@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Subject: Re: Patch to the textproc/docproj port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 10:29:18 -0000 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:24:54PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > In order to build with the STYLESHEET_TYPE set to xsl, the following patc= hes > are necessary. Any objections (specifically from Nik, as he's down as the > textproc/docproj maintainer) ? I'm fine with that. While you're there, feel free to change the maintainer to 'doceng'. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+k/X4k6gHZCw343URAqwkAJ46n3b7bmT+Nr2I6UbepcI12sF06QCgkQPT vGhRC5WLT000ohI7bg+EywA= =H/6R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 04:43:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EEC37B401; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 04:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D298943FD7; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 04:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 193DzK-000Kpl-00; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:43:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:43:34 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Nik Clayton Message-ID: <20030409114334.GA70541@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030408222454.GF49197@submonkey.net> <20030409102912.GA35976@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030409102912.GA35976@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Patch to the textproc/docproj port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 11:43:37 -0000 On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 11:29:13AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:24:54PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > In order to build with the STYLESHEET_TYPE set to xsl, the following patches > > are necessary. Any objections (specifically from Nik, as he's down as the > > textproc/docproj maintainer) ? > > I'm fine with that. While you're there, feel free to change the > maintainer to 'doceng'. Done. On another note, I'm pretty sure that I've fixed the build in the STYLESHEET_TYPE=xsl case; doing a full test build now... Ceri -- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 07:59:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F79237B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 07:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B7843F75 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 07:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:58:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:58:53 +0200 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <162666537670.20030409165853@alexdupre.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------8E109025B8F055" Subject: mailing-lists.ent X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Dupre List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 14:59:00 -0000 ------------8E109025B8F055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I completed the great work on mailing-lists.ent done by Sean Chittenden with some enhancements and fixes. 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sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 343E021062; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:22:22 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: Alex Dupre Message-ID: <20030409152222.GS79923@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <162666537670.20030409165853@alexdupre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <162666537670.20030409165853@alexdupre.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mailing-lists.ent X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 15:22:38 -0000 > I completed the great work on mailing-lists.ent done by Sean > Chittenden with some enhancements and fixes. Thank you for fixing and improving the various entities. I've just finished testing this and will commit it shortly. > I did: > - replace all '&a.mailman.listinfo;/freebsd-xxx' with '&a.xxx.url;' > - replace freebsd-aic7xxx with aic7xxx (link) > - remove non-existent links (cvs-committers, freebsd-core, > freebsd-developers, doc-committers, ports-committers, src-committers) > - use &os.current; and &os.stable; entities > - replace freebsd-cvs* with cvs* (name and link) > - replace CVS Web with CVSweb > - replace filesystem with file system > - add freebsd-i386 mailing list > - remove freebsd-install mailing list > - hub => hubs > - newbus => new-bus > - sparc => sparc64 Thank you! -sc -- Sean Chittenden From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 08:30:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355E537B405 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0579B43FAF for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 17:30:21 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 17:30:15 +0200 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <98668419376.20030409173015@alexdupre.com> To: Sean Chittenden In-Reply-To: <20030409152222.GS79923@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <162666537670.20030409165853@alexdupre.com> <20030409152222.GS79923@perrin.int.nxad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mailing-lists.ent X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Dupre List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 15:30:18 -0000 Wednesday, April 9, 2003, 5:22:22 PM, you wrote: SC> Thank you for fixing and improving the various entities. I've just SC> finished testing this and will commit it shortly. Great....then you may also want to replace freebsd-core with &a.core.name; in the handbook eresource chapter. -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: not enough memory, go get system upgrade From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 08:41:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424A037B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1986943FB1 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003040915413600300saf5ve>; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:41:36 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h39FfZs0055896; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:41:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h39FfYRB055895; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:41:34 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Martin Karlsson , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030409154134.GB55700@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030408232353.GA586@c-49c170d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030408232353.GA586@c-49c170d5.bredbandsbolaget.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Subject: Re: should the docs cater to 5 or 4? or both? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 15:41:38 -0000 --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Martin Karlsson wrote: > I'm doing some work on the handbook, section 12.6 (floppy disks), and I > have some questions: >=20 > Should I describe the methods (for formatting floppies, for example) > applicable to 4-RELEASE or 5-RELEASE? Or both? I notice that the > handbook states that it "covers [...] use of FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE", but It should mention the most recent 4.X release as well (i.e. 4.8 in this case), but I missed updating this part. I'll go fix it now. Thanks, Bruce. PS. To answer your original question, I think most of us would say "whatever versions are commonly used" (in other words, 4.X and 5.X). --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+lD8u2MoxcVugUsMRAqrrAJ9TVzgszjjVyvTH643d6XZBsQ1A8ACggLDS 19qp2o6HAX/sGTI0ON0eN/E= =s0yZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 10:32:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B4937B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FEB43FB1 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8E0B92106C; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:32:13 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: Alex Dupre Message-ID: <20030409173213.GT79923@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <162666537670.20030409165853@alexdupre.com> <20030409152222.GS79923@perrin.int.nxad.com> <98668419376.20030409173015@alexdupre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <98668419376.20030409173015@alexdupre.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mailing-lists.ent X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 17:32:28 -0000 > SC> Thank you for fixing and improving the various entities. I've just > SC> finished testing this and will commit it shortly. > > Great....then you may also want to replace freebsd-core with > &a.core.name; in the handbook eresource chapter. Thank you again, committed. :-] -sc -- Sean Chittenden From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 11:57:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EF437B401; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315D443F93; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h39IvgBG090179; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:57:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:56:15 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Nik Clayton Message-Id: <20030410025615.63cdc8a3.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030409102912.GA35976@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030408222454.GF49197@submonkey.net> <20030409102912.GA35976@clan.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: nik@FreeBSD.org cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Patch to the textproc/docproj port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:57:45 -0000 On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:29:13 +0100 Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:24:54PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > In order to build with the STYLESHEET_TYPE set to xsl, the following patches > > are necessary. Any objections (specifically from Nik, as he's down as the > > textproc/docproj maintainer) ? > > I'm fine with that. While you're there, feel free to change the > maintainer to 'doceng'. > While we're at it, I think a few other places still have: MAINTAINER= nik@FreeBSD.org and those should be nuked also. Would someone complain about repo bloat? -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 12:12:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A972B37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E956543F75 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:12:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003040919121700300sbfv6e>; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 19:12:17 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h39J9r5F098500; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h39J9hN1098497; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:09:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: "Michael W . Lucas" References: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 09 Apr 2003 12:09:43 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chainsawing the "Mouse" section of the FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 19:12:20 -0000 "Michael W . Lucas" writes: > Any comments? Sure. Your considerable talents would be better spent on the FreeBSD Handbook. The FAQ should be a delete-only document. The sooner it rots away, the better. It's upkeep involves a duplication of effort that is worse than useless, as it tends to force FreeBSD users to have to hunt for information in an extra place for information that is not necessarily any more helpful than what the Handbook (or an Article) has (or should have). It's bad enough that the FDP has to duplicate so much of what xfree86.org has on mouse configuration, but that's given the existance and nature of "moused", I guess there's no alternative to that. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 12:57:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D137437B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAD443F3F for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 320099972051-0001@t-online.de) Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 193CL8-0005P6-08; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 11:57:58 +0200 Received: from cordoba.local.mediabase-gmbh.de. (320099972051-0001@[217.233.96.111]) by fwd10.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 193CL2-0aocymC; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:57:52 +0200 Received: from gargano.local.mediabase-gmbh.de (gargano.local.mediabase-gmbh.de [10.2.2.160])h399vpEX000889 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 09:57:51 GMT Received: from gargano.local.mediabase-gmbh.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])h399vo4t018852; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 09:57:50 GMT Received: (from aw@localhost)h399vnTC018851; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 09:57:49 GMT Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 09:57:49 GMT From: 320099972051-0001@t-online.de (Arne Woerner) Message-Id: <200304090957.h399vnTC018851@gargano.local.mediabase-gmbh.de> To: doc@FreeBSD.org X-Sender: 320099972051-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-productivity.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 19:57:14 -0000 Hi! Because I have heard that FreeBSD is more stable than SuSE Linux due to conservative change request management and code inspection I would like to include FreeBSD as a possible choice during an evaluation... I tried to install OpenOffice.org on FBSD4.8 (pkg_add -r openoffice) but no package was found. What do you mean with "The FreeBSD and Mac OS X ports are almost complete." ? Thank you for your time. Bye Arne --- mediaBase GmbH, Maria-Probst-St. 22, 80939 Muenchen, BY, FR Germany Arne Woerner, system administrator (GMT+1h(+DST)) phone +49 89 3715977-1 / +49 179 5410106 - fax +49 89 3715977-2 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 13:02:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4636037B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4A43FB1 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:02:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h39K2LTk021614; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:02:21 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h39K2Lij021613; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:02:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:02:21 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Arne Woerner <320099972051-0001@t-online.de> Message-ID: <20030409200220.GA17110@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <200304090957.h399vnTC018851@gargano.local.mediabase-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304090957.h399vnTC018851@gargano.local.mediabase-gmbh.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-productivity.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:02:27 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 09:57:49AM +0000, Arne Woerner wrote: > Hi! >=20 > Because I have heard that FreeBSD is more stable than SuSE Linux > due to conservative change request management and code inspection > I would like to include FreeBSD as a possible choice during an > evaluation... >=20 > I tried to install OpenOffice.org on FBSD4.8 (pkg_add -r openoffice) > but no package was found. You can get the openoffice package from http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/ -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+lHxLXY6L6fI4GtQRAn9cAKDaUOZXjpuYar+0frKQReOTPcI4GwCgz72S 0nirQQVssT/E9Cyfs0DuaJY= =G+fX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 15:30:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBCF37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81C543F93 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h39MU9Up097108 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h39MU9Jt097107; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304092230.h39MU9Jt097107@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Martin Karlsson Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCB637B401 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mf1.bredband.net (mf1.bredband.net [195.54.106.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4E543F75 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martink@shell.linux.se) Received: from localhost.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([213.112.193.73]) by mf1.bredband.net with ESMTP <20030409222854.LKSK269.mf1@localhost.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 00:28:54 +0200 Received: from c-49c170d5.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (localhost [127.0.0.1])with ESMTP id h39MSsJU037257 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 00:28:54 +0200 (CEST) martink@c-49c170d5.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) Received: (from martink@localhost) (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h39MSmsj037256; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 00:28:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martink) Message-Id: <200304092228.h39MSmsj037256@c-49c170d5.036-23-6f72652.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 00:28:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Karlsson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50761: [PATCH] Update of the handbook (12.6, floppy disks) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Karlsson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 22:30:11 -0000 >Number: 50761 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Update of the handbook (12.6, floppy disks) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 09 15:30:09 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Karlsson >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD c-49c170d5 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Apr 9 07:10:02 CEST 2003 root@c-49c170d5:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/K20030406 i386 >Description: Section 12.6 of the handbook, "Creating and Using Floppy Disks", doesn't quite apply to 5.0 or newer. It also uses a rather informal style, and contains some grammatical errors. This patch aims to fix this. The modified chapter can be viewed at URL:http://www.krutov.org/martink/floppy/floppies.html >How-To-Repeat: Read section 12.6 of the handbook. >Fix: --- floppy.diff begins here --- Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.145 diff -u -r1.145 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2003/03/26 02:11:55 1.145 +++ chapter.sgml 2003/04/09 21:47:06 @@ -1096,148 +1096,187 @@ Julio Merino - Contributed by + Original work by + + + Martin + Karlsson + Rewritten by + + + Creating and Using Floppy Disks - Floppy disks are, nowadays, an old-fashioned medium to - store/share data. Although, there are still some times when you - need to use them, because you do not have any other removable - storage media or you need to use what you have saved in them on - any other computer. + Storing data on floppy disks is sometimes useful, for example + when one does not have any other removable storage media or when one needs + to transfer small amounts of data to another computer. This section will explain how to use floppy disks in - FreeBSD, that is, formating and copying/restoring data from - them. But... I really have written this to help you about how to - create forced-size floppies. + FreeBSD, and will cover formating, copying, and restoring data from + floppies. - The device + Formatting floppies + + + The device - Floppy disks are accessed through entries in - /dev (like any other device). To access the - raw floppy disk you can use /dev/fdX, - where X stands for the drive number, usually 0. When the disk is - formatted you can use /dev/fdX, or - whichever of the other devices named - /dev/fdXY, where Y stands for a - letter. These are all the same. - - Other important devices are - /dev/fdX.size, where size is a floppy disk - size in kilobytes. These entries are used at low-level format - time to determine the disk size. - - Sometimes you will have to (re)create these entries under - /dev. To do it, you can issue: - - &prompt.root; cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV "fd*" - In FreeBSD 5.0, &man.devfs.5; will automatically - manage device nodes in /dev, so use of - MAKEDEV is not necessary. + Floppy disks are accessed through entries in + /dev, just like other devices. To access the + raw floppy disk one uses /dev/fdN, + where N stands for the drive number, + usually 0, or in 4.8 or older + /dev/fdNX, + where X stands for a letter. + + In 5.0 or newer, simply use + /dev/fdN. + + + The disk size in 4.8 or older versions + + There are also /dev/fdN.size + devices, where size is a floppy disk + size in kilobytes. These entries are used at low-level format + time to determine the disk size. + + Sometimes the entries under /dev will + have to be (re)created. To do that, issue: + + &prompt.root; cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV "fd*" + + + + The disk size in 5.0 or newer versions + + In 5.0, &man.devfs.5; will automatically + manage device nodes in /dev, so use of + MAKEDEV is not necessary. + + The desired disk size is passed to &man.fdformat.1; through + the -f flag. Supported sizes are listed in + &man.fdcontrol.8; + + + + + Formatting + + A floppy disk needs to be low-level formated before it can + be used. This is usually done by the vendor, but formatting is a good way + to check media integrity. It can also be used to force a larger + disk size. + + To low-level format the floppy disk you need to + use &man.fdformat.1;. This utility expects + the device name as an argument. + + Forced disks will take longer to format due to + the larger disk size. Other disk + sizes found in /dev can be used, + but the most stable and compatible forced + size is 1720kB for 3.5inch disks. + + Make note of any disk error , as this can help determining if + the disk is good or bad. + + + Formatting in 4.8 or older versions + + Use the + /dev/fdN.size devices + to either format the floppy to its real size, or to force a larger + disk size. Insert a new 3.5inch floppy disk in your drive and issue: + + &prompt.root; /usr/sbin/fdformat /dev/fd0.1440 + + To force the floppy disk size, use other entries + in /dev. With the same floppy, issue: + + &prompt.root; /usr/sbin/fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 + + + + Formatting in 5.0 or newer versions + + Use the /dev/fdN + devices to either format the floppy to its real size, or to force a larger + disk size. Check &man.fdcontrol.8; for the size you want the disk to + have. Insert a new 3.5inch floppy disk in your drive and issue: + + &prompt.root; /usr/sbin/fdformat -f 1440 /dev/fd0 + + To force the floppy disk size, use other entries + in /dev. With the same floppy, issue: + + &prompt.root; /usr/sbin/fdformat -f 1720 /dev/fd0 + + - - Formatting - A floppy disk needs to be low-level formated before it can - be used. This is usually done by the vendor but you may want to - do it to check media integrity or to force the disk capacity to - be bigger. - - To format the floppy at a low-level fashion you need to - use &man.fdformat.1;. This utility expects - the device name as an argument. We will use those - /dev/fdX.size devices, which will allow us - to format the floppy to its real size, or force them. So you - insert a new 3.5inch floppy disk in your drive and issue: - - &prompt.root; /usr/sbin/fdformat /dev/fd0.1440 - - This will take a while... You should notice any disk error - here (this can help you determining which disks are good or - bad). - - To force the floppy disk size, we will use other entries - in /dev. Get the same floppy and issue: - - &prompt.root; /usr/sbin/fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 - - It will take some more time than before (forced disks are - slower). When it finishes, you will have a 1720kB floppy disk, - but for the moment you will not notice any difference. You may - use other disk sizes that you can find in /dev, but the most - stable/compatible is the 1720kB for 3.5inch disks. - The disklabel After low-level formatting the disk, you will need to - place a disklabel on it. This disklabel will be destroyed - later, but it is needed by the system to determine the size of - the disk and its geometry later. + place a disklabel on it. This disklabel will be destroyed + later, but it is needed by the system to determine the size of + the disk and its geometry later. The new disklabel will take over the whole disk, and will - contain all the proper information about the geometry of the - normal or forced floppy. Take a look to - /etc/disktab now; you will see geometry - values of all kinds of floppy disks. + contain all the proper information about the geometry of the + normal or forced floppy. The geometry values for the disklabel + are listed in /etc/disktab now. - You can run now &man.disklabel.8; - like: + You can run now &man.disklabel.8; like so: &prompt.root; /sbin/disklabel -B -r -w /dev/fd0 fdsize - - Replace fdsize with fd1440, fd1720 or whichever size you - want. The last field instructs disklabel which entry to take - from /etc/disktab to use. + + Replace fdsize with + fd1440, fd1720 or whichever size you + want. The last field instructs disklabel which entry + from /etc/disktab to use. The file system + + Now the floppy is ready to be high-level formated. This + will place a new file system on it, which will let FreeBSD read + and write to the disk. After creating the new file system, the + disklabel is destroyed, so if you want to reformat the disk, you + will have to recreate the disklabel. - Now your floppy is ready to be high-level formated. This - will place a new file system on it, which will let FreeBSD read - and write to the disk. After creating the new file system, the - disklabel is destroyed, so if you want to reformat the disk, you - will have to recreate the disklabel another time. - - You can choose now which file system to use on your floppy. - You can use UFS or FAT, though UFS is not a good idea for - floppies. Choose FAT which is nice for floppies. + The floppy's file system can be either UFS or FAT. + FAT is generally a better choice for floppies. - To put a new file system on the floppy do this: + To put a new file system on the floppy, issue: &prompt.root; /sbin/newfs_msdos /dev/fd0 - As we created a disklabel before, &man.newfs.8; - will be able to fetch disk data and construct the new - file system. And now, your disk is ready for use. + The disk is now ready for use. + Using the floppy - - You have two choices to use the floppy. You can either - mount the disk with &man.mount.msdos.8;, or you can - use mtools. - Mtools are great, but you will need - to install them from the ports system. - Try it; issue a mdir. If you forced the - disk, you will notice its extra size! + To use the floppy, mount it with &man.mount.msdos.8; (in 4.8 or older) or + &man.mount.msdosfs.8; (in 5.0 or newer). + One can also use mtools from the ports collection. A last note about forced disks: they are compatible with practically all other operating systems without any external - utility to read/write them. Microsoft systems will recognize - them without problems. But note that there may be times when the - floppy drive itself is not able to read them (this may happen - with very old drives). + utility to read from them or write to them. Microsoft™ systems + will recognize them without problems. Note however that there may be + times when the floppy drive itself is not able to read them, for example + when using very old drives. --- floppy.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 01:10:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F80F37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2035C43FBD for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3A8ABUp074778 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3A8AB3o074777; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304100810.h3A8AB3o074777@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Dmitry Sivachenko Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C1D37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tear.demos.su (tear.demos.su [194.87.2.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9016443FB1 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitya@tear.demos.su) Received: from tear.demos.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tear.demos.su (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h3A87oEW000457 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:07:50 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from mitya@tear.demos.su) Received: (from root@localhost) by tear.demos.su (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h3A87oWG000456; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:07:50 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <200304100807.h3A87oWG000456@tear.demos.su> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:07:50 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Sivachenko To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50769: login_class.3 does not mention recently added 'vmemoryuse' limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Sivachenko List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:10:13 -0000 >Number: 50769 >Category: docs >Synopsis: login_class.3 does not mention recently added 'vmemoryuse' limit >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 10 01:10:11 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dmitry Sivachenko >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD tear.demos.su 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #10: Thu Apr 10 11:22:37 MSD 2003 mitya@tear.demos.su:/usr/src/sys/compile/TEAR i386 >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- login_class.3.orig Thu Apr 10 12:03:49 2003 +++ login_class.3 Thu Apr 10 12:04:11 2003 @@ -111,6 +111,7 @@ maxproc RLIMIT_NPROC openfiles RLIMIT_NOFILE sbsize RLIMIT_SBSIZE +vmemoryuse RLIMIT_VMEM .Ed .It LOGIN_SETPRIORITY Set the scheduling priority for the current process based on the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 02:40:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E316137B401 for ; 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Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.98.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCFE43FBD for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.12.8p1/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h3A9WWZk001380 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:32:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) Received: (from kheuer@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.12.8p1/8.12.4/Submit) id h3A9WVJP001379; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:32:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200304100932.h3A9WVJP001379@gwdu60.gwdg.de> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:32:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Konrad Heuer To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50773: NFS problems by jumbo frames to mention in bge man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Konrad Heuer List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:40:04 -0000 >Number: 50773 >Category: docs >Synopsis: NFS problems by jumbo frames to mention in bge man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 10 02:40:02 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Konrad Heuer >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 >Organization: GWDG >Environment: System: FreeBSD gwdu60.gwdg.de 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #4: Tue Apr 8 09:24:35 CEST 2003 kheuer@gwdu111.gwdg.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GWDU60 i386 >Description: The bge driver allows to use jumbo frames by setting an MTU value of e.g. 8192. This works well in most cases. If NFS client and server are both capable to use jumbo frames, perfect! But clients with different adapters and standard MTUs can't access files on an NFS server if the latter one uses jumbo frames. Thus possible NFS problems should be mentioned in the man page. >How-To-Repeat: Try to setup client and server as explained above. >Fix: *** bge.4 Thu Apr 10 11:15:47 2003 --- bge.4.new Thu Apr 10 11:18:32 2003 *************** *** 89,95 **** .Xr ifconfig 8 utility configures the adapter to receive and transmit jumbo frames. Using jumbo frames can greatly improve performance for certain tasks, ! such as file transfers and data streaming. .Pp The .Nm --- 89,96 ---- .Xr ifconfig 8 utility configures the adapter to receive and transmit jumbo frames. Using jumbo frames can greatly improve performance for certain tasks, ! such as file transfers and data streaming, but may cause NFS problems ! if clients and servers use different MTU values. .Pp The .Nm >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 07:09:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7014F37B42A; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-106-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74FB43FB1; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:09:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3AE9gRf088283; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:09:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3AE9fEN099484; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:09:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h3AE9fO8099483; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:09:41 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:09:41 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030410140941.GA95802@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030408222454.GF49197@submonkey.net> <20030409102912.GA35976@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030410025615.63cdc8a3.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030410025615.63cdc8a3.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Patch to the textproc/docproj port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:09:46 -0000 --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 02:56:15AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > While we're at it, I think a few other places still have: >=20 > MAINTAINER=3D nik@FreeBSD.org >=20 > and those should be nuked also. Would someone complain about repo > bloat? Nuke 'em if you see 'em (as long as it's doc related -- there are a couple of non doc- ports with my name on them). N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+lXslk6gHZCw343URAvRCAJ40t3+tiPb7+H967mKRsuON02Gy8gCfeCoS cWuX5ET4CwokCjY8ksdCynQ= =A+gs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 07:16:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF8D37B40A for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-106-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150A743F85 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3AEGCRf088320; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:16:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3AEGCEN099517; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:16:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h3AEG7OK099516; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:16:07 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:16:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-ID: <20030410141607.GB95802@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chainsawing the "Mouse" section of the FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:16:39 -0000 --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:09:43PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > "Michael W . Lucas" writes: > > Any comments? >=20 > Sure. Your considerable talents would be better spent on the FreeBSD > Handbook. The FAQ should be a delete-only document. The sooner it rots > away, the better. It's upkeep involves a duplication of effort that is > worse than useless, as it tends to force FreeBSD users to have to hunt > for information in an extra place for information that is not > necessarily any more helpful than what the Handbook (or an Article) has > (or should have). It's bad enough that the FDP has to duplicate so much > of what xfree86.org has on mouse configuration, but that's given the > existance and nature of "moused", I guess there's no alternative to > that. Hmm. I quite like the idea of the FAQ merging in to the Handbook. Each chapter starts with a "Synopsis" section -- there's no reason why they couldn't end with a "FAQ" section. If we wanted a separate FAQ document, it could be generated by pulling out all the FAQ sections from the Handbook. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+lXynk6gHZCw343URAiSrAJ9OU65zdCOijoGfm54O9j1fQYxW1QCfWvTb mQIPi1nqLWPrzT77H7Yxub0= =w5Dv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 07:30:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E298737B401; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EEA43F93; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (electron.centtech.com [204.177.173.173]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3AEUO56072278; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:30:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <3E957FF5.2000103@centtech.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:30:13 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton References: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> <20030410141607.GB95802@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chainsawing the "Mouse" section of the FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:30:27 -0000 Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:09:43PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > >>"Michael W . Lucas" writes: >> >>>Any comments? >> >>Sure. Your considerable talents would be better spent on the FreeBSD >>Handbook. The FAQ should be a delete-only document. The sooner it rots >>away, the better. It's upkeep involves a duplication of effort that is >>worse than useless, as it tends to force FreeBSD users to have to hunt >>for information in an extra place for information that is not >>necessarily any more helpful than what the Handbook (or an Article) has >>(or should have). It's bad enough that the FDP has to duplicate so much >>of what xfree86.org has on mouse configuration, but that's given the >>existance and nature of "moused", I guess there's no alternative to >>that. > > > Hmm. > > I quite like the idea of the FAQ merging in to the Handbook. > > Each chapter starts with a "Synopsis" section -- there's no reason why > they couldn't end with a "FAQ" section. If we wanted a separate FAQ > document, it could be generated by pulling out all the FAQ sections from > the Handbook. Ooooo.. I like this a lot.. This seems like the "right way".. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Attitudes are contagious, is yours worth catching? ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 07:31:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2583E37B401; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECC943FA3; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h3AEVqDn097688; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:31:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h3AEVqBX097687; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:31:52 -0400 From: "Michael W . Lucas" To: Nik Clayton Message-ID: <20030410103152.A97620@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> <20030410141607.GB95802@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030410141607.GB95802@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:16:07PM +0100 cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chainsawing the "Mouse" section of the FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:31:57 -0000 On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:16:07PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:09:43PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > "Michael W . Lucas" writes: > > > Any comments? > > > > Sure. Your considerable talents would be better spent on the FreeBSD > > Handbook. The FAQ should be a delete-only document. The sooner it rots > > away, the better. It's upkeep involves a duplication of effort that is > > worse than useless, as it tends to force FreeBSD users to have to hunt > > for information in an extra place for information that is not > > necessarily any more helpful than what the Handbook (or an Article) has > > (or should have). It's bad enough that the FDP has to duplicate so much > > of what xfree86.org has on mouse configuration, but that's given the > > existance and nature of "moused", I guess there's no alternative to > > that. > > Hmm. > > I quite like the idea of the FAQ merging in to the Handbook. > > Each chapter starts with a "Synopsis" section -- there's no reason why > they couldn't end with a "FAQ" section. If we wanted a separate FAQ > document, it could be generated by pulling out all the FAQ sections from > the Handbook. Didn't we hash this out a couple of years ago? :-) Personally, I think that the FAQ and the Handbook serve two different purposes. The Handbook is tutorial-oriented, the FAQ is for quick answers to basic questions. We need both. Integrating the two into the Handbook would be nice, if it gets maintained and someone can write the toolchain glue to pull the FAQ out. My energy for that sort of work is going into books for the forseeable future, however. In the meantime, I'm willing to help clean up the existing FAQ so that it's more useful and usable. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 08:15:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5743237B401 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D5243F85 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:15:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-reply@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from akruijff.xs4all.nl (akruijff.xs4all.nl [194.109.0.117]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3AFFAkc072402 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:15:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Alex de Kruijff To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:15:08 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304101715.08338.freebsd-reply@akruijff.dds.nl> Subject: The inquirer on FreeBSD memory (> 4G) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:15:14 -0000 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8838 -- Alex From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 10:51:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B873F37B401; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D40843F3F; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.gorean.org (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with SMTP id <2003041017512005200lhp62e>; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:51:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:51:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: "Michael W . Lucas" In-Reply-To: <20030410103152.A97620@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: <20030410104257.I972@znfgre.tberna.bet> References: <20030408112740.A83997@blackhelicopters.org> <20030410141607.GB95802@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030410103152.A97620@blackhelicopters.org> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Chainsawing the "Mouse" section of the FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:51:22 -0000 On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Michael W . Lucas wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:16:07PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:09:43PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > > "Michael W . Lucas" writes: > > > > Any comments? > > > > > > Sure. Your considerable talents would be better spent on the FreeBSD > > > Handbook. The FAQ should be a delete-only document. The sooner it rots > > > away, the better. It's upkeep involves a duplication of effort that is > > > worse than useless, as it tends to force FreeBSD users to have to hunt > > > for information in an extra place for information that is not > > > necessarily any more helpful than what the Handbook (or an Article) has > > > (or should have). It's bad enough that the FDP has to duplicate so much > > > of what xfree86.org has on mouse configuration, but that's given the > > > existance and nature of "moused", I guess there's no alternative to > > > that. > > > > Hmm. > > > > I quite like the idea of the FAQ merging in to the Handbook. > > > > Each chapter starts with a "Synopsis" section -- there's no reason why > > they couldn't end with a "FAQ" section. If we wanted a separate FAQ > > document, it could be generated by pulling out all the FAQ sections from > > the Handbook. > > Didn't we hash this out a couple of years ago? :-) Yes, but a lot has changed since then. > Personally, I think that the FAQ and the Handbook serve two different > purposes. The Handbook is tutorial-oriented, the FAQ is for quick > answers to basic questions. We need both. Personally, I'm not saying "get rid of the FAQ." My suggestion is to incorporate the answers to the FAQ's into the handbook, and make the FAQ itself a serious of links to the relevant handbook sections. One of the things that's changed in the intervening years is the actual hard copy publication of the handbook, making the integration of all the relevant data that much more useful. -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 11:40:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F4037B401 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD30943FBD for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3AIe6Up021396 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3AIe6ZS021395; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304101840.h3AIe6ZS021395@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Simon L.Nielsen" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C273C37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B793C43F93 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3A44F10BF94; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:35:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20030410183546.3A44F10BF94@arthur.nitro.dk> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:35:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "Simon L.Nielsen" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50790: [patch] Expand description of dumpdev use in Developers Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Simon L.Nielsen" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 18:40:08 -0000 >Number: 50790 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] Expand description of dumpdev use in Developers Handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 10 11:40:06 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Simon L. Nielsen >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Document that setting dumpdev in rc.conf also automatically calls savecore on boot. Change a reference to /etc/rc.conf to use rc.conf(5) instead. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- doc-develbook-crashdump.patch begins here --- Index: kerneldebug/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.45 diff -u -d -r1.45 chapter.sgml --- kerneldebug/chapter.sgml 12 Jan 2003 18:31:39 -0000 1.45 +++ kerneldebug/chapter.sgml 10 Apr 2003 18:23:14 -0000 @@ -24,7 +24,12 @@ (note that this will have to be done after configuring the partition in question as swap space via &man.swapon.8;). This is normally arranged by setting the dumpdev variable in - /etc/rc.conf. + &man.rc.conf.5;. If you have set dumpdev variable + in &man.rc.conf.5; the &man.savecore.8; program will automatically be + called on the first multi-user boot after the crash and save the kernel + crash dump to the directory specified in the &man.rc.conf.5; + dumpdir variable (the default directory is + /var/crash). Alternatively, you can hard-code the dump device via the dump clause in the config line of --- doc-develbook-crashdump.patch ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 13:19:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA9A37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAA143F75 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h3AKJjZK000570 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:19:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 04:18:12 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030411041812.1f27544d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030410104213.003f0632.freebsd@secspace.de> References: <20030410104213.003f0632.freebsd@secspace.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Read the comments about FreeBSD (was: FreeBSD 5.0 review on osnews) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:19:48 -0000 Hello -doc team, This email was sent to FreeBSD-advocacy. Now I know many people just don't have the time to read the comments, but I'm slightly bored today. Several of the comments on here talk about how great our documentation is. Just thought it was interesting and a few people here would like to know. Keep up the good work everyone! -- Tom Rhodes On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:42:13 +0200 Volker Kindermann wrote: > Hi, > > there's a review of FreeBSD 5.0 at > > http://www.osnews.com/printer.php?news_id=3240 > > Conclusion: > > "Everything is fast and stable, minus File Roller, which has a habit of > crashing. I haven't missed my old OS at all" > > Worth reading and advocating. :-) > > -volker From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 13:50:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CA137B401 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F2643F3F for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3AKo2Up025294 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3AKo2qN025293; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304102050.h3AKo2qN025293@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: docs/50720: [PATCH] doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml: add QAs (scheduler) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Pepper List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:50:03 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/50720; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chris Pepper To: "Sergey A.Osokin" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50720: [PATCH] doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml: add QAs (scheduler) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:46:07 -0400 At 4:25 PM +0400 2003/04/08, Sergey A.Osokin wrote: > >Number: 50720 >>Category: docs > >Synopsis: [PATCH] doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml: >add QAs (scheduler) >Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml >=================================================================== >RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v >retrieving revision 1.526 >diff -u -r1.526 book.sgml >--- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 7 Apr 2003 18:37:59 >-0000 1.526 >+++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 8 Apr 2003 11:58:22 -0000 >+ >+ Just type: >+ &prompt.root; sysctl >kern.quantum >+ If you see >+ unknown oid 'kern.quantum' >+ it means that you use new SCHED_ULE scheduler, but s/use/are running the/ >+ if you see >+ kern.quantum: 100000 >+ that means your system runs under old >SCHED_4BSD scheduler. s/runs under/is running the/ >+ >+ >+ >+ >+ >+ >+ What does it mean 'kern.quantum'? s/mean 'kern.quantum'?/'kern.quantum' mean?/ Should kern.quantum get an SGML tag instead of single quotes (here and in the question above)? >+ >+ >+ >+ It is the maximum number of ticks a process can run >without being >+ preempted. It is specific to the 4BSD scheduler, so >you can use it s/use it/use its/ >+ presence or absence to determine which scheduler is in use. >+ >+ >+ > > Chris Pepper -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 14:25:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EC937B404 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C3543FA3 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3ALPLb7017277 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:25:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3ALPKgi001695 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:25:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3ALPKNh001694 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:25:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:25:20 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Subject: HEADS UP: images separation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:25:26 -0000 Hello, In few hours I will commit the needed changes to allow images separation from en_US directory. All images will be moved to doc/share/images/ following this scheme: doc/share/images/articles doc/share/images/articles/checkpoint doc/share/images/articles/console-server etc... doc/share/images/callouts doc/share/images/books doc/share/images/books/corp-net-guide etc... doc/share/images/books/handbook doc/share/images/books/handbook/advanced-networking doc/share/images/books/handbook/install doc/share/images/books/handbook/vinum etc... In the Makefiles the images will be referenced like so: IMAGES_EN = advanced-networking/isdn-bus.eps instead of IMAGES = advanced-networking/isdn-bus.eps which will be now used for a localized version of the image, for example: doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/isdn-bus.eps Nothing will change for callouts images. Here are the files that will be changed by my commit: doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk doc/share/mk/doc.html.mk doc/share/mk/doc.images.mk and files that directly depend on en_US images: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/checkpoint/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/console-server/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/design-44bsd/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/txtfiles.ent doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile doc/it_IT.ISO8859-15/articles/vm-design/Makefile doc/it_IT.ISO8859-15/books/handbook/Makefile And of course images files will be moved. Please try to avoid commits on these files for the moment. For localized versions, translation teams should now link images from doc/share/images. Of course I did a lot of tests, but problems could occur, so please feel free to bug me in this case :) I will also take care of "pgp keys separation" soon. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 14:34:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964B037B401; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3014843FBD; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3ALYbUp041483; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3ALYaO8041466; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:34:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200304102134.h3ALYaO8041466@freefall.freebsd.org> To: matthias.andree@web.de, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42292: PPP documentation should use quote marks around AUTHNAME etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:34:37 -0000 Synopsis: PPP documentation should use quote marks around AUTHNAME etc. State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 10 14:33:14 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: I've updated the sample config files in current. Thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Apr 10 14:33:14 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will take care of MFCing this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42292 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 14:42:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FA037B401 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3707943F75 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:42:27 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:42:25 +0200 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <196777151054.20030410234225@alexdupre.com> To: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: images separation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Dupre List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:42:28 -0000 Thursday, April 10, 2003, 11:25:20 PM, you wrote: MF> In few hours I will commit the needed changes to allow images separation MF> from en_US directory. Great! -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: The mouse escaped. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 02:50:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931C337B401 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C240143FB1 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3B9oFb7022241 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:50:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3B9oDAR000751 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:50:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3B9oDW4000750 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:50:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:50:13 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030411095013.GA535@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Subject: Re: HEADS UP: images separation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:50:19 -0000 Done. Please check out changes and report any issue. PDF versions of fr_FR and it_IT docs should now correctly link images :) Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 02:55:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBEE37B405 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F054043FB1 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:55:11 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:55:10 +0200 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <123821117284.20030411115510@alexdupre.com> To: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20030411095013.GA535@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030411095013.GA535@nosferatu.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: images separation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Dupre List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:55:15 -0000 Friday, April 11, 2003, 11:50:13 AM, you wrote: MF> Done. Great job :) MF> Please check out changes and report any issue. PDF versions of MF> fr_FR and it_IT docs should now correctly link images :) I'll verify....last thing: I saw you removed all callouts images from en_US tree...shouldn't you do the same thing in fr_FR and it_IT trees? -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: Party-bug in the Aloha protocol. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 03:21:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ABC37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 03:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073C243F85 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 03:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3BAL4b7022422; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:21:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3BAL3AR000823; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:21:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3BAL2Tb000822; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:21:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:21:02 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Alex Dupre Message-ID: <20030411102102.GB535@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030411095013.GA535@nosferatu.blackend.org> <123821117284.20030411115510@alexdupre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <123821117284.20030411115510@alexdupre.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: images separation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:21:09 -0000 On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 11:55:10AM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote: > Friday, April 11, 2003, 11:50:13 AM, you wrote: > > MF> Done. > > Great job :) > > MF> Please check out changes and report any issue. PDF versions of > MF> fr_FR and it_IT docs should now correctly link images :) > > I'll verify....last thing: I saw you removed all callouts images from > en_US tree...shouldn't you do the same thing in fr_FR and it_IT trees? > Of course, I will do it asap, I just committed the "important" things. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 07:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55C437B401 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 07:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arc.ITB.ac.id (www.arc.ITB.ac.id [167.205.5.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D14EB43F75 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 07:10:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cakruarc@arc.ITB.ac.id) Received: (qmail 89712 invoked by uid 1006); 11 Apr 2003 14:06:02 -0000 Date: 11 Apr 2003 14:06:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20030411140602.89711.qmail@arc.ITB.ac.id> To: doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.3rel.1 X-Personal_name: taufik From: tt4ufik@yahoo.com Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:10:31 -0000 how to use vi editor? how to compile and to linking c programming ? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 07:15:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359D337B401 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 07:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C24643F75 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 07:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 193zJ3-000PiY-00; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:15:05 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:15:05 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: tt4ufik@yahoo.com Message-ID: <20030411141505.GA98833@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , tt4ufik@yahoo.com, doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030411140602.89711.qmail@arc.ITB.ac.id> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030411140602.89711.qmail@arc.ITB.ac.id> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:15:07 -0000 On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 02:06:02PM -0000, tt4ufik@yahoo.com wrote: > > how to use vi editor? > how to compile and to linking c programming ? You want questions@FreeBSD.org. Down the corridor, third door on the left. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 09:10:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5922C37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5B243FBD for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3BGAEUp030476 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3BGAEhb030475; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304111610.h3BGAEhb030475@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: docs/50790: [patch] Expand description of dumpdev use in Developers Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Pepper List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:10:15 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:10:15 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/50790; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chris Pepper To: "Simon L.Nielsen" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50790: [patch] Expand description of dumpdev use in Developers Handbook Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:01:44 -0400 At 8:35 PM +0200 2003/04/10, Simon L.Nielsen wrote: > >Number: 50790 >>Category: docs > >Synopsis: [patch] Expand description of dumpdev use in Developers > >--- doc-develbook-crashdump.patch begins here --- >Index: kerneldebug/chapter.sgml >=================================================================== >RCS file: >/home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml,v >retrieving revision 1.45 >diff -u -d -r1.45 chapter.sgml >--- kerneldebug/chapter.sgml 12 Jan 2003 18:31:39 -0000 1.45 >+++ kerneldebug/chapter.sgml 10 Apr 2003 18:23:14 -0000 >@@ -24,7 +24,12 @@ > (note that this will have to be done after configuring the partition in > question as swap space via &man.swapon.8;). This is normally arranged > by setting the dumpdev variable in >- /etc/rc.conf. >+ &man.rc.conf.5;. If you have set dumpdev variable s/set dumpdev variable/ set the dumpdev variable/ or s/set dumpdev variable/ set dumpdev/ >+ in &man.rc.conf.5; the &man.savecore.8; program will automatically be >+ called on the first multi-user boot after the crash and save the kernel >+ crash dump to the directory specified in the &man.rc.conf.5; >+ dumpdir variable (the default directory is >+ /var/crash). -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 09:15:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A4337B401 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825A243F93 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:15:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:15:35 +0200 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <170843942825.20030411181535@alexdupre.com> To: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20030411095013.GA535@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030411095013.GA535@nosferatu.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------51B31931D66B26B" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: images separation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Dupre List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:15:44 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:15:44 -0000 ------------51B31931D66B26B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friday, April 11, 2003, 11:50:13 AM, you wrote: MF> Please check out changes and report any issue. PDF versions of MF> fr_FR and it_IT docs should now correctly link images :) Just tested....it works fine. Thanks! In the attachment there is the updated Italian documentation (with elimination of callouts images, too). -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: Hard drive sleeping. Let it wake up on it's own... ------------51B31931D66B26B-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 09:52:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5DC37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from datexstorage.com (bdsl.66.12.146.162.gte.net [66.12.146.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 127B043F93 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenny@datexstorage.com) From: "datex" To: Sender: "datex" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:52:31 -0700 Message-Id: <20030411165238.127B043F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: disk drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:52:39 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:52:39 -0000 We are looking to buy excess SCSI and IDE disk drives. If you have any disk drives for sale please let us no. Thanks Datex Storage From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 12:53:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DFB37B401; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB82F43FBF; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3BJreUp000105; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3BJregU000100; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:53:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200304111953.h3BJregU000100@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50784: DocBook is now maintained by OASIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:53:41 -0000 Old Synopsis: New Synopsis: DocBook is now maintained by OASIS Class-Changed-From-To: sw-bug->update Class-Changed-By: ceri Class-Changed-When: Fri Apr 11 12:51:45 PDT 2003 Class-Changed-Why: Reassign misfiled PR. Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 11 12:51:45 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Reassign misfiled PR. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50784 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 12:55:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D51C37B401; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6FF43FA3; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:55:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3BJtXUp000216; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:55:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3BJtXsG000212; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:55:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200304111955.h3BJtXsG000212@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50792: DocBook is now maintained by OASIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:55:34 -0000 Old Synopsis: New Synopsis: DocBook is now maintained by OASIS Class-Changed-From-To: sw-bug->update Class-Changed-By: ceri Class-Changed-When: Fri Apr 11 12:53:42 PDT 2003 Class-Changed-Why: Reassign misfiled PR. Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 11 12:53:42 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Reassign misfiled PR. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50792 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 12:56:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0792637B401; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC3243F3F; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3BJuMUp000271; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3BJuMaI000267; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200304111956.h3BJuMaI000267@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50824: FDP - DocBook is maintained by OASIS since 1998 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:56:23 -0000 Synopsis: FDP - DocBook is maintained by OASIS since 1998 Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 11 12:55:43 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Reassign misfiled PR. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50824 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 12:56:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAC437B401; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F356A43F85; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3BJuhUp000315; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3BJuhK7000311; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200304111956.h3BJuhK7000311@freefall.freebsd.org> To: plexus@snafu.de, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50784: DocBook is now maintained by OASIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:56:44 -0000 Synopsis: DocBook is now maintained by OASIS State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 11 12:56:29 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Duplicate of docs/50824. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50784 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 12:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B254737B401; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5204D43FAF; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3BJuvUp000359; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3BJuv10000355; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200304111956.h3BJuv10000355@freefall.freebsd.org> To: plexus@snafu.de, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50792: DocBook is now maintained by OASIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:56:58 -0000 Synopsis: DocBook is now maintained by OASIS State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 11 12:56:45 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Duplicate of docs/50824. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50792 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 13:51:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B9937B401; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A309243F75; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: from [129.85.219.160] (salt.rockefeller.edu [129.85.219.160]) by www.reppep.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28898FDB2; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pepper@mail.reppep.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200304071147.h37BlMDf051591@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200304071147.h37BlMDf051591@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:52:21 -0400 To: Murray Stokely From: Chris Pepper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/38817: /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents /boot.conf, but 'man boot.conf' fails. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:51:56 -0000 At 4:47 AM -0700 2003/04/07, Murray Stokely wrote: >Synopsis: /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents /boot.conf, but >'man boot.conf' fails. > >State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback >State-Changed-By: murray >State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 7 04:46:29 PDT 2003 >State-Changed-Why: >Do you mean boot.config? That is an optional file and I don't think >we need a MLINK for it. I think boot(8) is sufficient and we can >close this PR. Yes, I mean boot.config -- sorry. I think it would be better to have "man boot.config" work, but not essential. Chris Pepper -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 14:40:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F7137B404 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from danica.com (nikki.danicacomputing.com [205.232.74.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0793B43FD7 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gert@danica.com) Received: from danica.com ((mail.dcinet.biz) [205.232.74.28]) by danica.com ([127.0.0.1]) with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v6.7.2.R) for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:10:59 -0300 Message-ID: <3E9735FB.30307@danica.com> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:39:07 -0400 From: Gert Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: gert@danica.com X-MDRemoteIP: 205.232.74.28 X-Return-Path: gert@danica.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gert@danica.com List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 21:40:52 -0000 Is there a version of freeBSD that installs gnome and it works after the install? Thank you, Gert From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 15:49:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D4C37B40B for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer.2gtdtbib.net (mailer.2gtdtbib.net [65.172.163.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936FB43F75 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bounces@mailer.2gtdtbib.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer.2gtdtbib.net (Postfix) with QMQP id 8673E227574 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Carol Davis To: X-Track-ID: iaf-825-411616 Message-Id: <20030411224650.8673E227574@mailer.2gtdtbib.net> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Helping Families and Businesses Help Themselves X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: carol@itsaboutfinance.com List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:49:01 -0000 Dear Friend: We're trying to find out if you're still with us - in these very difficult times we're here to help you grow your business or career and take care of your family. 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Sincerely, Carol Davis From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 02:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C4F37B401; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 02:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B892143FBD; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 02:49:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (Moses.earth.sol [192.168.1.1]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h3C9noCu019686; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:49:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (localhost.earth.sol [127.0.0.1]) by Moses.earth.sol (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h3C9nm5X090911; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:49:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent@Moses.earth.sol) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h3C9nllB090910; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:49:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:49:46 +0200 From: Martin Heinen To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20030412114946.A90856@sumuk.de> References: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030410212519.GA742@nosferatu.blackend.org>; from blackend@freebsd.org on Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 11:25:20PM +0200 cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: images separation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:49:54 -0000 On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 11:25:20PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > In few hours I will commit the needed changes to allow images separation > from en_US directory. [ ... ] > I will also take care of "pgp keys separation" soon. Wonderful. -- Marxpitn From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 03:40:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472AA37B4BC for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 03:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D2B43FCB for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 03:40:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:40:08 +0200 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:40:09 +0200 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <170910218284.20030412124009@alexdupre.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Broken link X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Dupre List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:40:14 -0000 In the bibliography chapter of the handbook, the link to the Jargon File should be changed to: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/jargon.html -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: Hot Java has gone cold From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 03:47:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047A837B401 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 03:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7122843FBD for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 03:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3CAlRb7035249; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:47:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3CAlQWK000922; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:47:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3CAlKjD000921; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:47:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:47:20 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Alex Dupre Message-ID: <20030412104720.GA534@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <170910218284.20030412124009@alexdupre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <170910218284.20030412124009@alexdupre.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Broken link X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:47:33 -0000 On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:40:09PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote: > In the bibliography chapter of the handbook, the link to the Jargon > File should be changed to: > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/jargon.html > Fixed, thanks. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 04:19:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB6F37B401 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 04:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7748543FAF for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 04:19:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from BelletJr@aol.com) Received: from BelletJr@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id n.102.2b305463 (18555) for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:19:19 -0400 (EDT) From: BelletJr@aol.com Message-ID: <102.2b305463.2bc95037@aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:19:19 EDT To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 116 Subject: Error in daytimed example program from the developers' handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:19:26 -0000 In "7.5.1.3.4 Our First Server": >close s; should read >close(s); From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 04:33:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D689B37B401 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 04:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8027E43FB1 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 04:33:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3CBX7b7035488; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:33:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3CBX5WK001041; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:33:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3CBX5bW001040; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:33:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:33:05 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: BelletJr@aol.com Message-ID: <20030412113304.GC534@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <102.2b305463.2bc95037@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <102.2b305463.2bc95037@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Error in daytimed example program from the developers' handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:33:15 -0000 On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:19:19AM -0400, BelletJr@aol.com wrote: > In "7.5.1.3.4 Our First Server": > >close s; > should read > >close(s); Fixed, thanks. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 07:26:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D49737B401 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal.netaxs.com (postal.netaxs.com [207.8.186.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E7E43F75 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:26:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clear@alum.mit.edu) Received: from alum.mit.edu (root@unix5.netaxs.com [207.8.186.7]) h3CEQ7iN012595 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3E9821FC.DE133FB6@alum.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:26:04 -0400 From: Jed Clear Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms6B300BB1C90DB7D9378F7DC9" Subject: Handbook Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:26:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms6B300BB1C90DB7D9378F7DC9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html "pkg_add -r kde3" doesn't work, "pkg_add -r kde" does. I'm running 4.8-RELEASE. 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Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B99143FA3 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3CEeGb7036165; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:40:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3CEeFWK001512; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:40:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3CEeD7W001511; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:40:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:40:13 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Jed Clear Message-ID: <20030412144013.GE534@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3E9821FC.DE133FB6@alum.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E9821FC.DE133FB6@alum.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Handbook Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:40:27 -0000 On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 10:26:04AM -0400, Jed Clear wrote: > In http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html > > "pkg_add -r kde3" doesn't work, "pkg_add -r kde" does. I'm running > 4.8-RELEASE. Oddly enough the ports directly right below that is still > kde3. > Fixed. It's the same scheme for XFree86, pkg_add -r XFree86 will install XFree86-4 which is the name used for the ports. I added a note about the fact pkg_add(1) will fetch the latest version of the application. Thanks for the submission. Marc > -Jed From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 07:50:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC6937B401 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8CF43FCB for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:50:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <200304121450130020070osee>; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:50:13 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h3BNhZsg003587 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:43:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h3BNhTgR003582; Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 11 Apr 2003 16:43:28 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: What are the FTP disk1, disk2, mini ISO images? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:50:15 -0000 A description of FTP files seems to be needed somewhere where it is obvious to someone who is trying to download FreeBSD. I've noticed this problem at least with respect to the ISO files in *.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/4.8/ which I got to after following the "Getting FreeBSD" link at "www.freebsd.org". I see three ISO files and one MD5 file and seem have to guess which to use and what to do with them. I looked on the pages which I clicked through from the home to find the FDP directory and saw nothing about the files. I also followed the "Release Information" link and then the Release Notes and the Announcement. And I searched the Handbook and the *.TXT files on "disk1" for "disk1" and found nothing about any of the files except the rather general directions regarding installation from CD which do not mention disk1, disk2, or mini. A handy place for such info would be in a README file in each FTP directory or in a higher-level directory. The file /pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/README.TXT mentions the ISO files generically, but says nothing about disk1, disk2, mini, or MD5. If the FTP mirrors are the wrong place for it, then it would be OK in the Handbook and/or Release Notes. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 07:54:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2097937B401 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A917643FBF for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3CEsGb7036257; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:54:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3CEsFWK001540; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:54:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3CEsESj001539; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:54:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:54:14 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-ID: <20030412145414.GF534@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What are the FTP disk1, disk2, mini ISO images? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:54:22 -0000 On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 04:43:28PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > A description of FTP files seems to be needed somewhere where it is > obvious to someone who is trying to download FreeBSD. > > I've noticed this problem at least with respect to the ISO files > in *.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/4.8/ which I got to > after following the "Getting FreeBSD" link at "www.freebsd.org". > I see three ISO files and one MD5 file and seem have to guess which > to use and what to do with them. I looked on the pages which I > clicked through from the home to find the FDP directory and saw > nothing about the files. I also followed the "Release Information" > link and then the Release Notes and the Announcement. And I searched > the Handbook and the *.TXT files on "disk1" for "disk1" and found > nothing about any of the files except the rather general directions > regarding installation from CD which do not mention disk1, disk2, or > mini. It's there: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html#AEN3228 Table 2-6. FreeBSD ISO image names and meanings Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 09:00:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FD337B401 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A1343FE3 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3CG0UUp086866 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3CG0Ubk086865; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200304121600.h3CG0Ubk086865@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Dominic Marks Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEAF37B401; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cus.org.uk (host213-106-240-81.no-dns-yet.ntli.net [213.106.240.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D6543FAF; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:59:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dom@cus.org.uk) Received: from cus.org.uk (localhost.cus.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) by cus.org.uk (8.12.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h3CFxJLX081600; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:59:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dom@cus.org.uk) Received: (from dom@localhost) by cus.org.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h3CFxIDO081599; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:59:18 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200304121559.h3CFxIDO081599@cus.org.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:59:18 +0100 (BST) From: Dominic Marks To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 cc: blackend@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/50871: Updating of Majordomo reference in Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dominic Marks List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:00:32 -0000 >Number: 50871 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Updating of Majordomo reference in Handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 12 09:00:29 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dominic Marks >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 i386 >Organization: UMIST >Environment: System: FreeBSD moo.cus.org.uk 4.7-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 #3: Mon Jan 20 23:49:12 GMT 2003 root@moo.cus.org.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BAA i386 >Description: The Cutting Edge section of the Handbook contains advice about subscribing to mailing lists, it was majordomo centric and since majordomo has gone now, out of date. I've converted this to reflect the current reality of mailman. I've tried to stay within the example set by the eresources section. There is another small patch after the main one which corrects a typo I found in the eresources section while I was creating this patch, goto -> go to. >How-To-Repeat: Read the Cutting Edge section of the Handbook. >Fix: Thanks, Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.183 diff -u -r1.183 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2003/04/11 01:11:38 1.183 +++ chapter.sgml 2003/04/12 15:53:09 @@ -191,33 +191,25 @@ - Join the &a.current; and the &a.cvsall;. This is not - just a good idea, it is essential. If - you are not on the &a.current;, - you will not see the comments that people are - making about the current state of the system and thus will - probably end up stumbling over a lot of problems that others - have already found and solved. Even more importantly, you - will miss out on important bulletins which may be critical - to your system's continued health. + Join the &a.current.name; and the &a.cvsall.name; + lists. This is not just a good idea, it is + essential. If you are not on the + &a.current.name; list, you will + not see the comments that people are making about the + current state of the system and thus will probably end up + stumbling over a lot of problems that others have already + found and solved. Even more importantly, you will miss + out on important bulletins which may be critical to your + system's continued health. - The &a.cvsall; will allow you to see the + The &a.cvsall.name; list will allow you to see the commit log entry for each change as it is made along with any pertinent information on possible side-effects. - To join these lists, send mail to &a.majordomo; and - specify the following in the body of your message: - - subscribe freebsd-current -subscribe cvs-all - - Majordomo - - - Optionally, you can also say help - and Majordomo will send you full help on how to subscribe - and unsubscribe to the various other mailing lists we - support. + To join these lists, or one of the others available + go to &a.mailman.lists.link; and click on the list that + you wish to subscribe to. Instructions on the rest of the + procedure are available there. @@ -404,32 +396,23 @@ - Join the &a.stable;. This will keep you informed of - build-dependencies that may appear in &os.stable; - or any other issues requiring - special attention. Developers will also make announcements - in this mailing list when they are contemplating some - controversial fix or update, giving the users a chance to - respond if they have any issues to raise concerning the - proposed change. + Join the &a.stable.name; list. This will keep you + informed of build-dependencies that may appear in + &os.stable; or any other issues requiring special + attention. 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Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.118 diff -u -r1.118 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2003/04/11 01:11:38 1.118 +++ chapter.sgml 2003/04/12 15:38:14 @@ -537,7 +537,7 @@ How to Subscribe To subscribe to a list, click on the list name above or - goto &a.mailman.lists.link; + go to &a.mailman.lists.link; and click on the list that you're interested in. The list page should contain all of the necessary subscription instructions. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 09:16:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D3037B401; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6F243F3F; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003041216162800100ogj80e>; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:16:28 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h3CGIDsg018397; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h3CGI7PD018394; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Marc Fonvieille References: From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 12 Apr 2003 09:18:07 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47el47d70g.l47@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What are the FTP disk1, disk2, mini ISO images? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:16:30 -0000 > Marc writes: > swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) writes: > > A description of FTP files seems to be needed somewhere where it is > > obvious to someone who is trying to download FreeBSD. > > And I searched > the Handbook and the *.TXT files on "disk1" for > > "disk1" and found > nothing about any of the files except the rather > > general directions > regarding installation from CD which do not > > mention disk1, disk2, or > mini. > It's there: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html#AEN3228 > Table 2-6. FreeBSD ISO image names and meanings > Marc I guess I saw "disc" in the filenames but read "disk". Thanks, Mark. :) P.S. Even with the Handbook entry, it'd be helpful to describe the files in the existing /pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/ README file. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 09:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BE537B401; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A59943FB1; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with ESMTP id <2003041216460305200lh08ae>; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:46:03 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3CGk22o007917; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3CGk2D7007916; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:46:02 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-ID: <20030412164602.GA7831@intruder.bmah.org> References: <47el47d70g.l47@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47el47d70g.l47@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What are the FTP disk1, disk2, mini ISO images? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:46:04 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > Marc writes: > > It's there: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-= media.html#AEN3228 > > Table 2-6. FreeBSD ISO image names and meanings >=20 > > Marc >=20 > I guess I saw "disc" in the filenames but read "disk". Thanks, Mark. >=20 > :) >=20 > P.S. Even with the Handbook entry, it'd be helpful to describe the files > in the existing /pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/ README file. Yes, you have a good point. I can think of a couple of places in the release documentation where having this information would be useful...either the README file or the installation guide. Maybe the latter would be better but it desperately needs an overhaul too. I probably don't have time to do any work on this but I can review patches. Bruce. --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+mELK2MoxcVugUsMRAoBDAKCchH2xq2fg9aPGm71mMB+PQ+mgGwCg29fT CEsP6/3JI6aUBK2gycf5R9o= =6rtK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 09:50:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CBB37B401; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C738443F75; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:50:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3CGoMUp003034; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:50:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3CGoMmf003030; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:50:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200304121650.h3CGoMmf003030@freefall.freebsd.org> To: blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50871: Updating of Majordomo reference in Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:50:23 -0000 Synopsis: Updating of Majordomo reference in Handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->blackend Responsible-Changed-By: blackend Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Apr 12 09:49:46 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50871 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 13:20:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A77337B404 for ; 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Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cus.org.uk (host213-106-240-81.no-dns-yet.ntli.net [213.106.240.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E004743FB1 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dom@cus.org.uk) Received: from cus.org.uk (localhost.cus.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) by cus.org.uk (8.12.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h3CKIKLX085258 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:18:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dom@cus.org.uk) Received: (from dom@localhost) by cus.org.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h3CKIKuS085257; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:18:20 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200304122018.h3CKIKuS085257@cus.org.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:18:20 +0100 (BST) From: Dominic Marks To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50879: Fixes and Additions to PPTP section of PPP/SLIP chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dominic Marks List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:20:06 -0000 >Number: 50879 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Fixes and Additions to PPTP section of PPP/SLIP chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 12 13:20:04 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dominic Marks >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 i386 >Organization: UMIST >Environment: System: FreeBSD moo.cus.org.uk 4.7-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 #3: Mon Jan 20 23:49:12 GMT 2003 root@moo.cus.org.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BAA i386 >Description: A variety of clarifcations and fixes: o Capitalise "SpeedTouch" as Alcatel do. o Abbreviation "PPTP" should be capitalised. o Correct typo in configuration example, actcomp -> acfcomp. o Clarify what two IP addresses actually represent in the configuration example with callouts. o Insert missing interface name "ng0" in output example. >How-To-Repeat: NA >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.100 diff -u -r1.100 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2003/03/01 01:24:14 1.100 +++ chapter.sgml 2003/04/12 20:10:36 @@ -2129,7 +2129,7 @@ PPPoA is a popular choice among European DSL providers. - Using PPPoA with the Alcatel Speedtouch USB + Using PPPoA with the Alcatel SpeedTouch USB PPPoA support for this device is supplied as a port in FreeBSD because the firmware is distributed under Using mpd You can use mpd to connect to a variety - of services, in particular pptp services. You can find + of services, in particular PPTP services. You can find mpd in the ports collection, - net/mpd. + net/mpd. Many ADSL modems + require that a PPTP tunnel is created between the modem and + computer, one such modem is the Alcatel SpeedTouch Home. First you must install the port, and then you can configure mpd to suit your requirements and provider @@ -2177,7 +2179,7 @@ id="co-mpd-ex-pass"> set bundle disable multilink - set link no pap actcomp protocomp + set link no pap acfcomp protocomp set link disable chap set link accept chap set link keep-alive 30 10 @@ -2210,9 +2212,23 @@ set link type pptp set pptp mode active set pptp enable originate incoming outcall - set pptp self 10.0.0.140 - set pptp peer 10.0.0.138 + set pptp self 10.0.0.1 + set pptp peer 10.0.0.138 + + + The IP address of your &os; computer which you will be + using mpd from. + + + The IP address of your ADSL modem. For the Alcatel + SpeedTouch Home this address defaults to 10.0.0.138 + + + It is possible to initialise the connection easily by issuing the following command as root. @@ -2222,7 +2238,7 @@ command. &prompt.user; ifconfig ng0 -: flags=88d1<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 +ng0: flags=88d1<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 inet 216.136.204.117 --> 204.152.186.171 netmask 0xffffffff Using mpd is the recommended way to >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 14:34:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B34637B401; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9B043F3F; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3CLYdUp093661; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dns.html, the Overview section: I think "RFC1034 and RFC1035 dictates the DNS protocol" should be "RFC1034 and RFC1035 dictate the DNS protocol". -Jed --------------ms127F37670DB0F12EBFD3606C Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIIKTAYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIKPTCCCjkCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC B9gwggSiMIIEC6ADAgECAhAh2hT0UnPaoPeC0rOsgd1jMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMIHMMRcw FQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEfMB0GA1UECxMWVmVyaVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29y azFGMEQGA1UECxM9d3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9yZXBvc2l0b3J5L1JQQSBJbmNvcnAuIEJ5 IFJlZi4sTElBQi5MVEQoYyk5ODFIMEYGA1UEAxM/VmVyaVNpZ24gQ2xhc3MgMSBDQSBJbmRp dmlkdWFsIFN1YnNjcmliZXItUGVyc29uYSBOb3QgVmFsaWRhdGVkMB4XDTAyMDgxNDAwMDAw MFoXDTAzMDgyNTIzNTk1OVowggEUMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEfMB0GA1UE CxMWVmVyaVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29yazFGMEQGA1UECxM9d3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9y ZXBvc2l0b3J5L1JQQSBJbmNvcnAuIGJ5IFJlZi4sTElBQi5MVEQoYyk5ODEeMBwGA1UECxMV UGVyc29uYSBOb3QgVmFsaWRhdGVkMTMwMQYDVQQLEypEaWdpdGFsIElEIENsYXNzIDEgLSBO ZXRzY2FwZSBGdWxsIFNlcnZpY2UxGDAWBgNVBAMUD0Vkd2FyZCBKLiBDbGVhcjEhMB8GCSqG SIb3DQEJARYSY2xlYXJAYWx1bS5taXQuZWR1MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKB gQDBLYza4iTrH4ttwwU1bhbk6NgCmXr9yuq8eKX3r2xbqd6DwQ6ULXOmtOUUUpTIqe8SEy28 CooXW6bAfiH6TD5QCuF1gBl8fWAw8Ix0FOVMWG5oaeFH3PeM+NPdqI3qOis7BIbek5dQSkaU CLiyr3RR/ys9MrgzCllSCVboAeG6aQIDAQABo4IBODCCATQwCQYDVR0TBAIwADCBrAYDVR0g BIGkMIGhMIGeBgtghkgBhvhFAQcBATCBjjAoBggrBgEFBQcCARYcaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudmVy aXNpZ24uY29tL0NQUzBiBggrBgEFBQcCAjBWMBUWDlZlcmlTaWduLCBJbmMuMAMCAQEaPVZl cmlTaWduJ3MgQ1BTIGluY29ycC4gYnkgcmVmZXJlbmNlIGxpYWIuIGx0ZC4gKGMpOTcgVmVy aVNpZ24wEQYJYIZIAYb4QgEBBAQDAgeAMDAGCmCGSAGG+EUBBgcEIhYgN2Q4NGVmYWNlZWFm MTg1NzFmNzFjY2VjMWE3YmMwMzAwMwYDVR0fBCwwKjAooCagJIYiaHR0cDovL2NybC52ZXJp c2lnbi5jb20vY2xhc3MxLmNybDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCm8+RaAwJlZhcadXnrHxtW NSWO5FtMtWGezondtUoEf1Zao27u7yTQi8mAiROA2jgCFxA+JE58xwv5M2E4VROxkqrdRyPa j2Cd8Ad+GPHkboaLmsXFzzbvPyc6FnecACDxwo2w6engukh/dP7nyGrsNJ9RpX/4PnoO7qnF T+SoBjCCAy4wggKXoAMCAQICEQDSdi6NFAw9fbKoJV2v7g11MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAgUAMF8x CzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjE3MDUGA1UECxMuQ2xhc3Mg MSBQdWJsaWMgUHJpbWFyeSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTAeFw05ODA1MTIwMDAw MDBaFw0wODA1MTIyMzU5NTlaMIHMMRcwFQYDVQQKEw5WZXJpU2lnbiwgSW5jLjEfMB0GA1UE CxMWVmVyaVNpZ24gVHJ1c3QgTmV0d29yazFGMEQGA1UECxM9d3d3LnZlcmlzaWduLmNvbS9y ZXBvc2l0b3J5L1JQQSBJbmNvcnAuIEJ5IFJlZi4sTElBQi5MVEQoYyk5ODFIMEYGA1UEAxM/ VmVyaVNpZ24gQ2xhc3MgMSBDQSBJbmRpdmlkdWFsIFN1YnNjcmliZXItUGVyc29uYSBOb3Qg VmFsaWRhdGVkMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQC7WkSKBBa7Vf0DeootlE8V eDa4DUqyb5xUv7zodyqdufBou5XZMUFweoFLuUgTVi3HCOGEQqvAopKrRFyqQvCCDgLpL/vC O7u+yScKXbawNkIztW5UiE+HSr8Z2vkV6A+HthzjzMaajn9qJJLj/OBluqexfu/J2zdqyErI CQbkmQIDAQABo3wwejARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCAQYwRwYDVR0gBEAwPjA8BgtghkgBhvhF AQcBATAtMCsGCCsGAQUFBwIBFh93d3cudmVyaXNpZ24uY29tL3JlcG9zaXRvcnkvUlBBMA8G A1UdEwQIMAYBAf8CAQAwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAgUAA4GBAIi4Nzvd2pQ3 AK2qn+GBAXEekmptL/bxndPKZDjcG5gMB4ZbhRVqD7lJhaSV8Rd9Z7R/LSzdmkKewz60jqrl Cwbe8lYq+jPHvhnXU0zDvcjjF7WkSUJj7MKmFw9dWBpJPJBcVaNlIAD9GCDlX4KmsaiSxVhq wY0DPOvDzQWikK5uMYICPDCCAjgCAQEwgeEwgcwxFzAVBgNVBAoTDlZlcmlTaWduLCBJbmMu MR8wHQYDVQQLExZWZXJpU2lnbiBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrMUYwRAYDVQQLEz13d3cudmVyaXNp Z24uY29tL3JlcG9zaXRvcnkvUlBBIEluY29ycC4gQnkgUmVmLixMSUFCLkxURChjKTk4MUgw RgYDVQQDEz9WZXJpU2lnbiBDbGFzcyAxIENBIEluZGl2aWR1YWwgU3Vic2NyaWJlci1QZXJz b25hIE5vdCBWYWxpZGF0ZWQCECHaFPRSc9qg94LSs6yB3WMwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkq hkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wMzA0MTIyMzQ1MzNaMCMG CSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBTOowrFo/HAwQYa3KiO/uH/8WcXUzBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoG CCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDANBggq hkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASBgBgZam8AS7frZQdGoNEmjcrAMeADjMjnIa0M j1/h+dRjVXrmX0P5Z3X4LG3uu3tW+P5ZJ5f5HJVgLBVcQKKNRyw2AVPASz0O/bxb5TZUxWzo ZNky9PpQ4PIz6N6vhY5FBaQNcM7FUHChIz4kYifA/WX77M1uTKSxNNM/4cFX8hrz --------------ms127F37670DB0F12EBFD3606C-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 17:21:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09DD37B401 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFBD43FB1 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:21:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3D0Lgb7038956; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:21:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3D0LiWK005323; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:21:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3D0Le61005322; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:21:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:21:39 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Jed Clear Message-ID: <20030413002139.GH534@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3E98A51D.E49B55AA@alum.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E98A51D.E49B55AA@alum.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: minor Handbook grammar error X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:21:49 -0000 On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 07:45:33PM -0400, Jed Clear wrote: > In http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dns.html, > the Overview section: I think "RFC1034 and RFC1035 dictates the DNS > protocol" should be "RFC1034 and RFC1035 dictate the DNS protocol". > Fixed, thanks. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 12 19:28:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61FF37B401; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6505F43FBD; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3D2SpUp084020; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3D2SpZs084016; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200304130228.h3D2SpZs084016@freefall.freebsd.org> To: murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50761: [PATCH] Update of the handbook (12.6, floppy disks) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:28:52 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] Update of the handbook (12.6, floppy disks) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Apr 12 19:27:49 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll work on this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=50761