From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 00:31:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9562837B401; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF4543FD7; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:31:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: by builder.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id E2F4313D4; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:31:10 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030615073110.GW390@freebsdmall.com> References: <200306132154.h5DLsJgZ013646@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200306132154.h5DLsJgZ013646@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48407: PPP section needs a cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:31:11 -0000 On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 02:54:19PM -0700, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Close this. I'm doing an overhaul and this is listed on the handbook3.sgml > TODO list. Hi Tom, thanks for working on this. Please send your patches to this list first before committing. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 03:05:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F352737B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B4E43FCB for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: by builder.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 2E63A1407; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:05:50 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030615100550.GA390@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Subject: Random thoughts on indexterms.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:05:54 -0000 I've recently pointed out to some people minor inconsistencies in the indexterms, so I thought I'd do a little braindump in the hopes that someone will add this to the FDP, come up with other guidelines, or argue why these guidelines shouldn't be adopted. * indexterms should be lower case unless the word refers to an acronym or proper noun. * indexterms should almost never be identical to the section title. For example : "backup software and basics" Is a bad indexterm for several reasons. It is way too long, and not organized properly. "backup software" is a legitamite primary index term, but this "and basics" reads like a section title, not like an index entry. The best I could do for this one was remove it since it's in close proximity to other more succinct backup-related indexterms. I don't see to many secondary indexterms like "basics" or "details" underneath a legitimate primary indexterm as I look through the CS books within arms reach. * tertiary indexterms are almost always bad * indexterms should be succinct - the index must be printed in two column format at the back of a book. long-winded indexterms make this impossible. 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 09:09:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE9437B401; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B21143FDD; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:09:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dannyboy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5FG98Up083639; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dannyboy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5FG98CI083635; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Harris Message-Id: <200306151609.h5FG98CI083635@freefall.freebsd.org> To: larson@eng.paix.net, dannyboy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:09:09 -0000 Synopsis: Documentation unreadable. State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dannyboy State-Changed-When: Sun Jun 15 09:08:37 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Waiting on feedback from NS 4.79 user. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48472 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 09:22:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98CD37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD4D43FA3 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from ms-1 (ms-dienst.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.132]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HGJ00KXB6TJ10@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:22:31 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by ms-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:22:30 +0200 (MEST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (postfix@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) h5FGMUNY014619 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:22:30 +0200 (MEST) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E852529 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:23:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6FD734746; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:22:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:22:29 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer To: doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <20030615162228.GU4002@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="eEYjL7b2m+/uQ8dh"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D Subject: ffsinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:22:34 -0000 --eEYjL7b2m+/uQ8dh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, ffsinfo(8) was removed from the build (in -CURRENT) because of lacking ufs2 support. It is however still referenced in a couple of system manpages, e.g. tunefs.8. I think these referenced should be removed from now, since we don't know when (if) ffsinfo will be reconnected to the build. Opinions? - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --eEYjL7b2m+/uQ8dh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+7J1EbHYXjKDtmC0RAk7VAJ9f3cBpnS3Iq4XjXcuE8KbawjPrTACgu+MZ /hVSMhrP2J1rTD2pGyVGIlQ= =t/I5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eEYjL7b2m+/uQ8dh-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 09:25:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7826237B401; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1541343FD7; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dannyboy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5FGPYUp084579; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dannyboy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5FGPYAu084575; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Harris Message-Id: <200306151625.h5FGPYAu084575@freefall.freebsd.org> To: simon@nitro.dk, dannyboy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/53326: [patch] New handbook section about filtering on the mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:25:35 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] New handbook section about filtering on the mailing lists State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dannyboy State-Changed-When: Sun Jun 15 09:25:11 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Added with minor tweaks; thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=53326 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 11:17:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AFC37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cyberonic.com (mail.cyberonic.com [4.17.179.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECA243F75 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (node-40244c0a.sfo.onnet.us.uu.net [64.36.76.10]) by mail.cyberonic.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h5FIh8Mo030833 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:43:09 -0400 Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.9/8.11.6) id h5FIIQcY070095 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:18:26 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030615181826.GC59754@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Subject: handobook mailinglists are out of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:17:57 -0000 In the handbook listing the Mailing lists (C.1), it doesn't list a large number of lists, such as the amd64 list which is hoppefully going to be Tier 1 for 5.2-R, but the ppc list IS listed. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 16:56:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EA237B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-217.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E0543FA3 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) h5FNuoOg004459 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:56:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3EED07C2.3040701@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:56:50 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pr 53291: [patch] Ports section of handbook doesn't mention /usr/local/etc/rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:56:52 -0000 Has anyone had a chance to look at this? I misfiled it when I first submitted (sorry) so it may not have gone through normal channels: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=53291 -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 22:51:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B062837B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.e-easy.com.au (eth0.lnk.e-easy.com.au [203.31.73.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E28B43FE1 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:51:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from postoffice.aims.com.au (nts-ts1.aims.private [192.168.10.2]) by postoffice.e-easy.com.au with ESMTP id h5G5owQr043823 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:50:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from ntsts1 by aims.com.au with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v6.7.9.1.R) for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:50:54 +1000 From: "Nigel Weeks" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:50:52 +1000 Message-ID: <002601c333c8$426f44d0$020aa8c0@aims.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: High X-Return-Path: nigel@e-easy.com.au X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: A New docbook.css X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nigel@e-easy.com.au List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:51:10 -0000 I had a little play with your docbook.css file, and came up with something you might like. Here's a demo of it - I did attach it to my original email, but it was rejected due to the fact that it contained an attachment. http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/ Pop it in a document folder(backup your old one), and see what you think! ps. It's got unix endlines(done on FreeBSD...) ;-) Nige. -------------------------------------------------------- Nigel Weeks E-Easy 15 Wellington St. Launceston Tas 7250 Ph. 61 3 6334 6664 Fax. 61 3 6331 7032 Email. nigel@e-easy.com.au Web: www.e-easy.com.au -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 02:53:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C3137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.macomnet.ru (relay.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15E543F75 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay.macomnet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5G9rAl7361657 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:53:10 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:53:10 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030616135148.X24436@news1.macomnet.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: internal/machines.sgml small diff X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:53:13 -0000 Hello, I hope everything is OK with a diff below? Index: www/en/internal/machines.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/internal/machines.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.40 diff -u -r1.40 machines.sgml --- www/en/internal/machines.sgml 4 Feb 2003 21:03:45 -0000 1.40 +++ www/en/internal/machines.sgml 16 Jun 2003 09:48:31 -0000 @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ bento -4-STABLE +5-CURRENT i386 package build master ports team %%% -- Maxim Konovalov, maxim@macomnet.ru, maxim@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 03:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6554137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 03:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8900443FD7 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 03:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19RrFa-000JZC-24; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:30:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:30:10 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Maxim Konovalov Message-ID: <20030616103009.GA75191@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Maxim Konovalov , docs@freebsd.org References: <20030616135148.X24436@news1.macomnet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030616135148.X24436@news1.macomnet.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: internal/machines.sgml small diff X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:30:12 -0000 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:53:10PM +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > Hello, > > I hope everything is OK with a diff below? Hi Maxim, please commit this. Ceri > Index: www/en/internal/machines.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/internal/machines.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.40 > diff -u -r1.40 machines.sgml > --- www/en/internal/machines.sgml 4 Feb 2003 21:03:45 -0000 1.40 > +++ www/en/internal/machines.sgml 16 Jun 2003 09:48:31 -0000 > @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ > > > bento > -4-STABLE > +5-CURRENT > i386 package build master > ports team > > %%% > -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 05:56:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739D637B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCD743F85; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5GCuEUp023447; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5GCuEb8023443; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:56:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200306161256.h5GCuEb8023443@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wmoran@potentialtech.com, blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/53291: [patch] Ports section of handbook doesn't mention /usr/local/etc/rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:56:15 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] Ports section of handbook doesn't mention /usr/local/etc/rc.d State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: blackend State-Changed-When: Mon Jun 16 05:55:37 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed, Thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=53291 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 06:15:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E270B37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ABB43FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCC366CFA for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E7077B78; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:15:22 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: docs@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030616131522.GA62288@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [Ozgur.Ozdemircili@izmir.af.mil: Freebsd.org.tr] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:15:24 -0000 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Forwarded message from Ozdemircili Ozgur CIV 425 ABS/SGST ----- X-Original-To: kkenn@localhost Delivered-To: kkenn@localhost.obsecurity.org X-Originating-IP: [128.125.38.123] Delivered-To: kris@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ozdemircili Ozgur CIV 425 ABS/SGST To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:04:23 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: Freebsd.org.tr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Bogosity: No, tests=3Dbogofilter, spamicity=3D0.000000, version=3D0.13.6 Dear sirs, I have been using Freebsd for like 4 years and am a fan of the operating system.When I checked www.freebsd.org.tr I have gotten a dns error which means it is not registered.Is there any way I can translate your page into Turkish and be a mirror of your site? I have checked the country list in your web page too but couldn`t see Turkey there either. I`ll look forward to hearing from you. Ozgur Ozdemircili _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ----- End forwarded message ----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+7cLqWry0BWjoQKURAiNFAKDEABocXBdNVBM783Vy9qEyGvTV/gCfa0Wk is7+B94q3PSm2pJfb9MBf7s= =JwBj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 10:15:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA39E37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2324E43F3F for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:15:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5GHEtbS051768 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:14:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5GHEtLP001878 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:14:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5GHEtf9001877 for docs@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:14:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:14:55 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030616171455.GB550@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Subject: Removal of some mini-faqs in the Handbook. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:15:03 -0000 Hello, I noted that some "mini-faqs" have been removed. I'm not against that idea, but sometimes the solution used to replace the FAQ just looks like an "ugly mess". Where it was easy to find the information for the reader, we have now a big set of "paras" not easy to read. Maybe I'm totally "out" of what is a good layout, but maybe we should think twice before doing it on all mini-faqs (I'm thinking about http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-trouble.html for example, which will be, I guess, the next "axed one"). Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 10:31:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBAD37B404; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5F343FD7; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5GHVt99016185; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:31:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:21:14 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <20030616132114.368a354c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030616171455.GB550@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030616171455.GB550@nosferatu.blackend.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Removal of some mini-faqs in the Handbook. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:31:58 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:14:55 +0200 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Hello, > > I noted that some "mini-faqs" have been removed. I'm not against that > idea, but sometimes the solution used to replace the FAQ just looks like > an "ugly mess". Where it was easy to find the information for the > reader, we have now a big set of "paras" not easy to read. > > Maybe I'm totally "out" of what is a good layout, but maybe we should > think twice before doing it on all mini-faqs (I'm thinking about > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-trouble.html > for example, which will be, I guess, the next "axed one"). > This was discussed a little bit ago, and is also listed as a handbook task which I'm currently working on. Recently there was a small discussion about moving the FAQ into the handbook, near the end of each chapter, and then add a way to extract these entries for the FAQ. This would give us a build_with_faq or build_without_faq type of setup. This is not definate though. My reply on the following is: > an "ugly mess". Where it was easy to find the information for the > reader, we have now a big set of "paras" not easy to read. A few of my replacement "paras" were posted on the -doc list and did bring a reply from Simon L. Nielson, Jim, and someone else who I just cannot remember right now for some reason. During the time I was doing this, you never sent a reply to me. If you think it is an "ugly mess", then could you explain this opinion to me? Perhaps a patch, cut & paste it into an email then post your comments, anything. I'll certainly look at it. Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 11:00:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F47437B40A for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAB543F93 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5GI0lUp032746 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5GI0kC9032741 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306161800.h5GI0kC9032741@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:00:50 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2001/10/31] i386/31671 doc 4.4 installer hangs at " Mounting root fr 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o [2002/12/15] docs/46286 doc there's an omission and an error in the n f [2003/02/19] docs/48472 doc Documentation unreadable. 10 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/15] misc/33926 doc Search function on website can not access o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/07] docs/35649 doc mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot. o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/09] docs/35711 doc the "gnats page" should move to its own s o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/03/28] docs/36459 doc tftp(1) manual's "get" syntax/description o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) o [2002/08/22] docs/41919 doc MINI kernel for bootfloppy (Handbook p.34 a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/09/27] docs/43416 doc pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/02] docs/46709 doc tables in terminfo.5 are broken o [2003/01/05] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/14] docs/47085 doc boot(8) manpage is incomplete according t o [2003/01/27] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/30] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing o [2003/02/02] docs/47824 doc auto-create plist chapter should mention o [2003/02/05] docs/47991 doc Handbook section on upgrading kernel says o [2003/02/06] docs/48018 doc telnetd(8) manpage appears incorrect rega f [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/12] docs/48210 doc make -q only does what the manpage says i o [2003/02/28] docs/48767 doc wrong key numbers for left/right windows o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/14] docs/50013 doc [PATCH] add much more russian holydays o [2003/03/22] docs/50200 doc Handbook "Kerberos" chapter doesn't quali o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/03/27] docs/50349 doc make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! f [2003/03/28] docs/50391 doc Incorrect information in a man o [2003/03/30] docs/50469 doc "mount_msdos -W" issue in handbook o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re f [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/04/10] docs/50773 doc NFS problems by jumbo frames to mention i o [2003/04/15] docs/51006 doc [PATCH] divert(4) and ipfw(8) manpages ar o [2003/04/27] docs/51480 doc Multiple undefined references in the Free o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/05/13] docs/52183 doc [PATCH] Clarifies pccard setup for wirele o [2003/05/19] docs/52448 doc [patch] Misc man page reference fixes o [2003/05/24] ports/52640 doc New port: xmlcatmgr and patches to use th o [2003/05/25] docs/52672 doc Porter's Handbook: couple of corrections o [2003/06/02] docs/52878 doc [PATCH] security(7): small clairification p [2003/06/08] docs/53073 doc [PATCH] Typo in elf(5) o [2003/06/13] docs/53303 doc mount(2) man page error o [2003/06/14] docs/53315 doc [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at t o [2003/06/14] docs/53316 doc Small update/correction to multimedia/cha 118 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 11:59:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF2637B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mail.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D637543FA3; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:59:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from l.ertl@univie.ac.at) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (adslle.cc.univie.ac.at [131.130.102.11]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h5GIxdon259920; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:59:44 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:59:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Lukas Ertl To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <200306141250.h5ECoBGZ043143@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20030616205705.H550@korben.in.tern> References: <200306141250.h5ECoBGZ043143@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-DCC-ZID-Univie-Metrics: mx1 4251; Body=0 Fuz1=0 Fuz2=0 cc: Lukas Ertl Subject: Re: docs/53315: [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at the end of lines in articles X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:59:55 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >Category: docs > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >Synopsis: [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at the end of lines= in articles > >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 14 05:50:11 PDT 2003 Ok, I see that a 200k+-sized patch isn't really appreciated. :-) The following Perl script does the same job. Call it "cleanspaces" or whatever and run it like "cleanspaces *.sgml". ---8<--- #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; for my $file (@ARGV) { my $dont_touch =3D 0; my $bak =3D "$file.bak"; open IN, "<$file" or die $!; open OUT, ">$bak" or die $!; while () { if (m!|
|<\!--||]+>!) =
{
            $dont_touch =3D 1;
        }
        if (m!|
|-->||!) { $dont_touch =3D 0; } s/\s+$/\n/ unless $dont_touch; print OUT $_; } close IN; close OUT; rename ($bak, $file) or die $!; } ---8<--- regards, le --=20 Lukas Ertl eMail: l.ertl@univie.ac.at UNIX-Systemadministrator Tel.: (+43 1) 4277-14073 Zentraler Informatikdienst (ZID) Fax.: (+43 1) 4277-9140 der Universit=E4t Wien http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 12:00:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D3737B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972D743F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5GJ0UUp041560 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5GJ0Um4041559; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306161900.h5GJ0Um4041559@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Lukas Ertl Subject: Re: docs/53315: [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at the end of lines in articles X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lukas Ertl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:00:31 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/53315; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Lukas Ertl To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Lukas Ertl Subject: Re: docs/53315: [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at the end of lines in articles Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:59:38 +0200 (CEST) On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >Category: docs > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >Synopsis: [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at the end of lines= in articles > >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 14 05:50:11 PDT 2003 Ok, I see that a 200k+-sized patch isn't really appreciated. :-) The following Perl script does the same job. Call it "cleanspaces" or whatever and run it like "cleanspaces *.sgml". ---8<--- #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; for my $file (@ARGV) { my $dont_touch =3D 0; my $bak =3D "$file.bak"; open IN, "<$file" or die $!; open OUT, ">$bak" or die $!; while () { if (m!|
|<\!--||]+>!) =
 {
             $dont_touch =3D 1;
         }
         if (m!|
|-->||!) { $dont_touch =3D 0; } s/\s+$/\n/ unless $dont_touch; print OUT $_; } close IN; close OUT; rename ($bak, $file) or die $!; } ---8<--- regards, le --=20 Lukas Ertl eMail: l.ertl@univie.ac.at UNIX-Systemadministrator Tel.: (+43 1) 4277-14073 Zentraler Informatikdienst (ZID) Fax.: (+43 1) 4277-9140 der Universit=E4t Wien http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 14:22:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADA237B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outpost.globcon.net (outpost.globcon.net [62.141.88.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE34543FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:22:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sergei@kolobov.com) Received: (qmail 95939 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 21:22:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kolobov.com) (213.247.180.114) by outpost.globcon.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 21:22:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 1133 invoked by uid 911); 16 Jun 2003 21:21:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:21:43 +0400 From: Sergei Kolobov To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030616212143.GA717@chetwood.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, "Sergey A. Osokin" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i cc: "Sergey A. Osokin" Subject: textproc/xmlto: missing XML catalogs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:22:42 -0000 Hello, I am trying to solve a little problem building a new port I just submitted - textproc/xmlto (see ports/53173). To quote its pkg-descr: "xmlto is a front-end to an XSL toolchain. It chooses an appropriate stylesheet for the conversion you want and applies it using an external XSL-T processor. It also performs any necessary post-processing." When building xmlto, I get a lot of warnings from xsltproc similar to this: (manually wrapped for readability) xmlNanoHTTPConnectAttempt: Connect attempt timed out. /FreeBSD/current/ports/xmlto-0.0.14/xmlto-0.0.14/./doc/xmlif.xml:4: error: failed to load external entity "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" (also, the build time is greatly increased because of this timeouts). Even though the port successfully builds despite the warnings, I am trying to find out a better way. ;) The port's homepage (http://www.cyberelk.net/tim/xmlto/) has the following in the Problems section: Attempt to load network entity ... failed to load external entity This is caused by the absence of correctly configured XML Catalogs on your system. When XML Catalogs are available, URLs are transformed into local file references. For more information about XML Catalogs see the xsltproc documentation. Unfortunately, I am a novice in XML area, so I am lost as to where to get those XML catalogs. I have the following DocBook- and XML-related ports installed: docbook-1.2 Meta-port for the different versions of the DocBook DTD docbook-241 V2.4.1 of the DocBook DTD, designed for technical documenta docbook-3.0 V3.0 of the DocBook DTD, designed for technical documentati docbook-3.1 V3.1 of the DocBook DTD, designed for technical documentati docbook-4.0 V4.0 of the DocBook DTD, designed for technical documentati docbook-4.1 V4.1 of the DocBook DTD, designed for technical documentati docbook-xml-4.2 XML version of the DocBook DTD docbook-xsl-1.61.2 XSL DocBook stylesheets expat-1.95.6_1 XML 1.0 parser written in C fontconfig-2.2.0 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows jade-1.2.1_1 An object-oriented SGML/XML parser toolkit and DSSSL engine libxml2-2.5.7_1 Xml parser library for GNOME sdocbook-xml-4.1.2.5 "Simplified" DocBook XML DTD sgmlformat-1.7_2 Generates groff and HTML from linuxdoc and docbook SGML doc xmlto-0.0.14 Front-end to an XSL toolchain Am I missing something obvious? FWIW, the RPM spec file included with xmlto lists docbook-dtds as dependency. What is its equivalent in ports? Thanks. Sergei From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 15:36:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B4837B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105B043FDD; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADE266B9B; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB28EB36; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:36:25 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, "Sergey A. Osokin" Message-ID: <20030616223625.GB71605@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030616212143.GA717@chetwood.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030616212143.GA717@chetwood.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: textproc/xmlto: missing XML catalogs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:36:27 -0000 --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:21:43AM +0400, Sergei Kolobov wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I am trying to solve a little problem building a new port I just > submitted - textproc/xmlto (see ports/53173). >=20 > To quote its pkg-descr: > "xmlto is a front-end to an XSL toolchain. It chooses an appropriate > stylesheet for the conversion you want and applies it using an external > XSL-T processor. It also performs any necessary post-processing." >=20 > When building xmlto, I get a lot of warnings from xsltproc similar to thi= s: > (manually wrapped for readability) >=20 > xmlNanoHTTPConnectAttempt: Connect attempt timed out. > /FreeBSD/current/ports/xmlto-0.0.14/xmlto-0.0.14/./doc/xmlif.xml:4:=20 > error: failed to load external entity=20 > "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" >=20 > (also, the build time is greatly increased because of this timeouts). > Even though the port successfully builds despite the warnings, I am > trying to find out a better way. ;) It may be trying to download them from the net (bad port!). If you are building the port on a machine that cannot perform HTTP fetches then this would of course fail. In order to be certain one would need to monitor network activity during the build or consult the source. Kris --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+7kZpWry0BWjoQKURAgQyAJ4xNm7Zq5F7Wi5LQM0JP2s4D65AuACg7jza fL13sxlSLw52PwRL3QHm9kc= =JZKa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 16:17:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8C137B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A31243FAF; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5GLF5bS053635; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:15:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5GLF6LP002429; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:15:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5GLF6qe002428; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:15:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:15:05 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030616211505.GC550@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030616171455.GB550@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030616132114.368a354c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030616132114.368a354c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Removal of some mini-faqs in the Handbook. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:17:52 -0000 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:21:14PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > This was discussed a little bit ago, and is also listed as a handbook > task which I'm currently working on. Recently there was a small > discussion about moving the FAQ into the handbook, near the end of > each chapter, and then add a way to extract these entries for the > FAQ. This would give us a build_with_faq or build_without_faq type > of setup. > > This is not definate though. > No, I'm not talking about that. > My reply on the following is: > > an "ugly mess". Where it was easy to find the information for the > > reader, we have now a big set of "paras" not easy to read. > > A few of my replacement "paras" were posted on the -doc list and did > bring a reply from Simon L. Nielson, Jim, and someone else who I > just cannot remember right now for some reason. During the time I > was doing this, you never sent a reply to me. I'm talking about Section "6.8.3.2 Troubleshooting" and I do not remember any mail about it on -doc, but I can be wrong on that point. > If you think it is > an "ugly mess", then could you explain this opinion to me? Perhaps > a patch, cut & paste it into an email then post your comments, anything. > I'll certainly look at it. Thanks! > I know very well that section since I wrote it :) I just noted the removal of the mini-faq when I sent an user to the section 6.3 (I do not read every commit mail). The person complained about the Troubleshooting section layout. If you really think the new layout is better than the previous one, then that's Ok. My opinion is not: "keep the old layout", I just want something easy to read. By the way, you should keep the info about performance issues with autoselect mode on some NICs since this mode is not seen by users as an "incorrect network settings". For mail-trouble.html, I just hope it will be treated in a better way. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 16:28:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F351337B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.e-easy.com.au (eth0.lnk.e-easy.com.au [203.31.73.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2162743F75 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from postoffice.aims.com.au (nts-ts1.aims.private [192.168.10.2]) by postoffice.e-easy.com.au with ESMTP id h5GNSKPo036541 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:28:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from ntsts1 by aims.com.au with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v6.7.9.1.R) for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:57:42 +1000 From: "Nigel Weeks" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:57:40 +1000 Message-ID: <002601c333c8$426f44d0$020aa8c0@aims.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal X-Return-Path: nigel@e-easy.com.au X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: doc@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_20 version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Subject: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nigel@e-easy.com.au List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:28:33 -0000 I had a little play with your docbook.css file, and came up with something you might like. Here's a demo of it - I did attach it to my original email, but it was rejected due to the fact that it contained an attachment. http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/ The css file is at: http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/docbook.css Pop it in a document folder(backup your old one), and see what you think! ps. It's got unix endlines(done on FreeBSD...) ;-) Nige. -------------------------------------------------------- Nigel Weeks E-Easy 15 Wellington St. Launceston Tas 7250 Ph. 61 3 6334 6664 Fax. 61 3 6331 7032 Email. nigel@e-easy.com.au Web: www.e-easy.com.au -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 17:11:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACCF37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portamoose.portamoose.com (bgrcvx032234.prexar.com [142.167.32.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FBE43FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kyle@kgreen.org) Received: from kgreen.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])h5H0BPjG005130; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:11:24 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: nigel@e-easy.com.au From: "Kyle R. Green" In-Reply-To: <002601c333c8$426f44d0$020aa8c0@aims.private> Message-Id: <3BB22FEC-A058-11D7-87B6-000A959D227C@kgreen.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:11:59 -0000 Hi. A couple of things: 1) I find light gray on dark gray slightly hard to read. While the beauty of CSS is that it allows you to create and change the presentation of a website easily without changing the semantic meaning of the content--as you have done--the default presentation for a resource such as the Handbook, which is most users' introduction to the Documentation Project, should be broadly accessible, and highly legible. One of the biggest things that drew me to FreeBSD four years ago was the quality of the documentation compared to that available for most distributions of Linux. Documentation is still one of the greatest factors that sets FreeBSD apart from its peers. 2) When you get to pages with lots of styles such as , the wide variety in colors becomes very distracting and focuses the reader's attention on how the text is presented, usurping the content itself. The issue is probably best seen on the above referenced page, where you go from a dark gray background on BODY to a dark blue background on BODY PRE. That said, it is nice to see some different ideas floating about. I'd definitely keep at it. Thanks. On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 06:57 PM, Nigel Weeks wrote: > I had a little play with your docbook.css file, and came up with > something > you might like. > > Here's a demo of it - I did attach it to my original email, but it was > rejected due to the fact that it contained an attachment. > http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/ > > The css file is at: > http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/docbook.css > > Pop it in a document folder(backup your old one), and see what you > think! > > ps. It's got unix endlines(done on FreeBSD...) ;-) > > Nige. > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Nigel Weeks > E-Easy > 15 Wellington St. Launceston Tas 7250 > Ph. 61 3 6334 6664 > Fax. 61 3 6331 7032 > Email. nigel@e-easy.com.au > Web: www.e-easy.com.au > -------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Kyle R. Green kyle@kgreen.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 17:16:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1890137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.20.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A878843F75 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au) Received: from elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au (elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.18.41])h5H0GlfE011398 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:16:47 +1000 (EST) From: JacobRhoden Organization: University of Melbourne To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:16:46 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <3BB22FEC-A058-11D7-87B6-000A959D227C@kgreen.org> In-Reply-To: <3BB22FEC-A058-11D7-87B6-000A959D227C@kgreen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306171016.46909.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:16:50 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:11 am, Kyle R. Green wrote: > That said, it is nice to see some different ideas floating about. I'd > definitely keep at it. The font is certianly nicer! (: Jacob Rhoden Phone: +61 3 8344 6102 ITS Division Email: jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au Melbourne University Mobile: +61 403 788 386 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 17:31:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F5837B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.e-easy.com.au (eth0.lnk.e-easy.com.au [203.31.73.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19EA43F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from postoffice.aims.com.au (nts-ts1.aims.private [192.168.10.2]) by postoffice.e-easy.com.au with ESMTP id h5H0UxPo038311 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:30:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from ntsts1 by aims.com.au with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v6.7.9.1.R) for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:30:59 +1000 From: "Nigel Weeks" To: "'Kyle R. Green'" Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:30:57 +1000 Message-ID: <005301c33467$b9240fd0$020aa8c0@aims.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3BB22FEC-A058-11D7-87B6-000A959D227C@kgreen.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: High X-Return-Path: nigel@e-easy.com.au X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: doc@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_20,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH, X_PRIORITY_HIGH version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:31:27 -0000 How's that? I've pushed the bgcol closer to black, removed the blue bg's(slightly darker grey) Looks good on an LCD - hows it look on peoples' monitors? -----Original Message----- From: Kyle R. Green [mailto:kyle@kgreen.org] Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 10:11 To: nigel@e-easy.com.au Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme Hi. A couple of things: 1) I find light gray on dark gray slightly hard to read. While the beauty of CSS is that it allows you to create and change the presentation of a website easily without changing the semantic meaning of the content--as you have done--the default presentation for a resource such as the Handbook, which is most users' introduction to the Documentation Project, should be broadly accessible, and highly legible. One of the biggest things that drew me to FreeBSD four years ago was the quality of the documentation compared to that available for most distributions of Linux. Documentation is still one of the greatest factors that sets FreeBSD apart from its peers. 2) When you get to pages with lots of styles such as , the wide variety in colors becomes very distracting and focuses the reader's attention on how the text is presented, usurping the content itself. The issue is probably best seen on the above referenced page, where you go from a dark gray background on BODY to a dark blue background on BODY PRE. That said, it is nice to see some different ideas floating about. I'd definitely keep at it. Thanks. On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 06:57 PM, Nigel Weeks wrote: > I had a little play with your docbook.css file, and came up with > something > you might like. > > Here's a demo of it - I did attach it to my original email, but it was > rejected due to the fact that it contained an attachment. > http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/ > > The css file is at: > http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/docbook.css > > Pop it in a document folder(backup your old one), and see what you > think! > > ps. It's got unix endlines(done on FreeBSD...) ;-) > > Nige. > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Nigel Weeks > E-Easy > 15 Wellington St. Launceston Tas 7250 > Ph. 61 3 6334 6664 > Fax. 61 3 6331 7032 > Email. nigel@e-easy.com.au > Web: www.e-easy.com.au > -------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Kyle R. Green kyle@kgreen.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 17:41:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C96037B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portamoose.portamoose.com (bgrcvx032234.prexar.com [142.167.32.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBE743F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kyle@kgreen.org) Received: from kgreen.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])h5H0fbjG006417; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:41:36 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: "Nigel Weeks" From: "Kyle R. Green" In-Reply-To: <005301c33467$b9240fd0$020aa8c0@aims.private> Message-Id: <73ABAA53-A05C-11D7-87B6-000A959D227C@kgreen.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:41:57 -0000 On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 08:30 PM, Nigel Weeks wrote: > How's that? > I've pushed the bgcol closer to black, removed the blue bg's(slightly > darker > grey) I dunno. I'm still not convinced that BODY PRE should have a different bgcolor than BODY. A couple of other things: 1) You use yellow twice--unvisited links, and header text. 2) Visited and unvisited links use almost identical colors. 3) The difference between the light gray text and lime green text makes the lime green seem like it should be a link. > Looks good on an LCD - hows it look on peoples' monitors? This color report brought to you by an Apple PowerBook G4 17". -- Kyle R. Green kyle@kgreen.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 18:40:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3994B37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3CF43F85 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:40:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com ([192.168.42.25]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5H1el56065745; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:40:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <3EEE7191.5020101@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:40:33 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nigel@e-easy.com.au References: <002601c333c8$426f44d0$020aa8c0@aims.private> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:40:59 -0000 Nigel Weeks wrote: > I had a little play with your docbook.css file, and came up with something > you might like. > > Here's a demo of it - I did attach it to my original email, but it was > rejected due to the fact that it contained an attachment. > http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/ > > The css file is at: > http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/docbook.css > > Pop it in a document folder(backup your old one), and see what you think! > > ps. It's got unix endlines(done on FreeBSD...) ;-) > > Nige. I love the colors, however, I would have to say it could be somewhat eerie to some users (the newbies and management types). The biggest reason it won't work out - try printing that out. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Attitudes are contagious, is yours worth catching? ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 18:50:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C4337B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.e-easy.com.au (eth0.lnk.e-easy.com.au [203.31.73.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663EE43FF5 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:50:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from postoffice.aims.com.au (nts-ts1.aims.private [192.168.10.2]) by postoffice.e-easy.com.au with ESMTP id h5H1ohPo040261 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:50:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from nigel@e-easy.com.au) Received: from ntsts1 by aims.com.au with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v6.7.9.1.R) for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:41:17 +1000 From: "Nigel Weeks" To: "'Kyle R. Green'" Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:41:16 +1000 Message-ID: <005501c33471$8b5fb540$020aa8c0@aims.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <73ABAA53-A05C-11D7-87B6-000A959D227C@kgreen.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal X-Return-Path: nigel@e-easy.com.au X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: doc@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_20,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:50:59 -0000 Green toned down Links still yellow, black bg when hovered Dunno about the headings - bue looked weird. pastel red looks washy Any Ideas? -----Original Message----- From: Kyle R. Green [mailto:kyle@kgreen.org] Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 10:42 To: Nigel Weeks Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 08:30 PM, Nigel Weeks wrote: > How's that? > I've pushed the bgcol closer to black, removed the blue bg's(slightly > darker > grey) I dunno. I'm still not convinced that BODY PRE should have a different bgcolor than BODY. A couple of other things: 1) You use yellow twice--unvisited links, and header text. 2) Visited and unvisited links use almost identical colors. 3) The difference between the light gray text and lime green text makes the lime green seem like it should be a link. > Looks good on an LCD - hows it look on peoples' monitors? This color report brought to you by an Apple PowerBook G4 17". -- Kyle R. Green kyle@kgreen.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 21:31:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF6137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outpost.globcon.net (outpost.globcon.net [62.141.88.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B60943FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sergei@kolobov.com) Received: (qmail 7030 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 04:31:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kolobov.com) (213.247.180.114) by outpost.globcon.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 04:31:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 753 invoked by uid 911); 17 Jun 2003 04:30:42 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:30:42 +0400 From: Sergei Kolobov To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030617043042.GA709@chetwood.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030616212143.GA717@chetwood.ru> <20030616223625.GB71605@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030616223625.GB71605@rot13.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Subject: Re: textproc/xmlto: missing XML catalogs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:31:26 -0000 On 2003-06-16 at 15:36 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:21:43AM +0400, Sergei Kolobov wrote: > > When building xmlto, I get a lot of warnings from xsltproc similar to this: > > (manually wrapped for readability) > > > > xmlNanoHTTPConnectAttempt: Connect attempt timed out. > > /FreeBSD/current/ports/xmlto-0.0.14/xmlto-0.0.14/./doc/xmlif.xml:4: > > error: failed to load external entity > > "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" > > > > (also, the build time is greatly increased because of this timeouts). > > Even though the port successfully builds despite the warnings, I am > > trying to find out a better way. ;) > > It may be trying to download them from the net (bad port!). If you > are building the port on a machine that cannot perform HTTP fetches > then this would of course fail. In order to be certain one would need > to monitor network activity during the build or consult the source. Well, it DOES try to fetch that DTD via HTTP. As far as I understand, the purpose of having the XML catalogs install is to avoid those fetches by mapping URLs to local files. Now, is there a port that installs or builds XML catalogs? Sergei From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 22:06:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AFC37B404; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC76F43F93; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id CCEF02ED449; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:45 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:06:49 -0000 I would like to host the config files for http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe/server-config.html somewhere under our CVS, how shall I do that? -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 22:06:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AFC37B404; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC76F43F93; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id CCEF02ED449; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:45 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:06:49 -0000 I would like to host the config files for http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe/server-config.html somewhere under our CVS, how shall I do that? -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 22:21:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54DC37B401; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sekine00.ee.noda.tus.ac.jp (sekine00.ee.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.107.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D35343F93; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (woodstock.vlsi.ee.noda.tus.ac.jp [192.168.200.52]) ESMTP id h5H5LKAl028805; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:21:20 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@jp.FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:20:26 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030617.142026.104095785.hrs@vlsi.ee.noda.tus.ac.jp> To: sergei@kolobov.com From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20030617043042.GA709@chetwood.ru> References: <20030616212143.GA717@chetwood.ru> <20030616223625.GB71605@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030617043042.GA709@chetwood.ru> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: textproc/xmlto: missing XML catalogs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:21:26 -0000 Sergei Kolobov wrote in <20030617043042.GA709@chetwood.ru>: sergei> Well, it DOES try to fetch that DTD via HTTP. As far as I understand, sergei> the purpose of having the XML catalogs install is to avoid those fetches sergei> by mapping URLs to local files. sergei> sergei> Now, is there a port that installs or builds XML catalogs? DTDs in the ports collection install SGML and/or XML catalog. You can find them in ${PREFIX}/share/sgml or ${PREFIX}/share/xml. For example, docbook-xml has ${PREFIX}/share/xml/docbook/4.2/catalog.xml in XML, ${PREFIX}/share/xml/docbook/4.2/docbook.cat in SGML. Set $SGML_CATALOG_FILES and/or $XML_CATALOG_FILES properly, and use --nonet and --catalogs in the case of xsltproc. Besides, you use xmlcatmgr to create catalog files (see ports/52640). All ports does not care about catalog files in a consistent way, so I am working on this problem. -- | Hiroki SATO / From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 00:03:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7390137B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DEB43F93; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:03:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yar@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (yar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5H72xUp020645; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yar@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from yar@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5H72x8o020641; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:02:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Yar Tikhiy Message-Id: <200306170702.h5H72x8o020641@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nkinkade@dsl-only.net, yar@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48018: telnetd(8) manpage appears incorrect regarding gettytab X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:03:00 -0000 Synopsis: telnetd(8) manpage appears incorrect regarding gettytab State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: yar State-Changed-When: Tue Jun 17 00:00:33 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: This PR is a duplicate of i386/23562. The problem is that handling the issue file has never been merged from the plain telnetd to the crypto one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48018 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 01:14:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0740037B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC0443FF2 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id h5H8EhX19111; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:14:43 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <20030617181443.14492@caamora.com.au> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:14:43 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: doc@freebsd.org References: <002601c333c8$426f44d0$020aa8c0@aims.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <002601c333c8$426f44d0$020aa8c0@aims.private>; from Nigel Weeks on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:57:40AM +1000 Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:14:59 -0000 all, On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:57:40AM +1000, Nigel Weeks wrote: > I had a little play with your docbook.css file, and came up with something > you might like. i apologise in advance, for the fact that "like" is not a word that i can use in connection with "colour schemes" on internet based (actually any) documentation. for me (and those like me) it is far less esoteric, it is a matter of being able to see/discern the text on/from the background. colour discrimination is not a gift that all share equally abundantly. i am writing on behalf of the disabled people who are not able to participate in community other than by what is available to them on "the internet" and for those who have colour compromised vision. > Here's a demo of it - I did attach it to my original email, but it was stuff deleted > http://www.aims.com.au/nigel/freebsd/docbook.css also sorry for the fact that (at teh moment) i have neither teh resources, excpet for a 13 inch vga monochrome screen that i have reverted to using for all documentation "browsing". i looked at teh file and found that if i did have the resources to 'read' this file as it should be i could not read the documentation i am about to ressurect an old rebol script that display a #rrggbb table for 8 bit (16 level grey scale) and 16 bit (256 level greyscale). it also has a conversion routine that produces greyscale conversion for #rrggbb input. > Pop it in a document folder(backup your old one), and see what you think! maybe one day teh processing, and teh hdd relestate and teh ability to use a 21 inch colour screen. regards jonathan -- ================================================================ Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 ==== === appropriate solution in an inappropriate world === ==== From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 01:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7192F37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2D843FD7 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5H7bnbS058338; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:37:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h5H7bmr2058337; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:37:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:37:48 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Alfred Perlstein Message-ID: <20030617093748.B58247@abigail.blackend.org> References: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:06:45PM -0700 X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:37:56 -0000 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:06:45PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > I would like to host the config files for > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe/server-config.html > somewhere under our CVS, how shall I do that? > Under doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe/ will be the right solution. Have a look at doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch or doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pam for an example. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 02:19:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA00037B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 02:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outpost.globcon.net (outpost.globcon.net [62.141.88.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD98243FBD for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 02:19:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sergei@kolobov.com) Received: (qmail 8205 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 09:19:53 -0000 Received: from agdcgw01.akingump.com (HELO kolobov.com) (12.40.174.2) by outpost.globcon.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 09:19:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 4337 invoked by uid 911); 17 Jun 2003 09:19:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:19:14 +0400 From: Sergei Kolobov To: Hiroki Sato Message-ID: <20030617091914.GA728@chetwood.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Hiroki Sato , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20030616212143.GA717@chetwood.ru> <20030616223625.GB71605@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030617043042.GA709@chetwood.ru> <20030617.142026.104095785.hrs@vlsi.ee.noda.tus.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617.142026.104095785.hrs@vlsi.ee.noda.tus.ac.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: textproc/xmlto: missing XML catalogs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:19:58 -0000 On 2003-06-17 at 14:20 +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > DTDs in the ports collection install SGML and/or XML catalog. You > can find them in ${PREFIX}/share/sgml or ${PREFIX}/share/xml. > For example, docbook-xml has ${PREFIX}/share/xml/docbook/4.2/catalog.xml > in XML, ${PREFIX}/share/xml/docbook/4.2/docbook.cat in SGML. > Set $SGML_CATALOG_FILES and/or $XML_CATALOG_FILES properly, and > use --nonet and --catalogs in the case of xsltproc. Thanks for the explanation - now I understand it a little better. Still, after setting up variables like this: XML_CATALOG_FILES=${LOCALBASE}/share/xml/docbook/4.2/catalog.xml SGML_CATALOG_FILES=${LOCALBASE}/share/xml/docbook/4.2/docbook.cat Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl warning: failed to load external entity "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" cannot parse http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl [...] Of course, I have manpages/docbook.xsl in ${LOCALBASE}/share/xsl/docbook (installed by docbook-xsl port), but how do I feed it to xmlto so it will not try to fetch via HTTP? Should I rely on a user building the port to set up XML_CATALOG_FILES and SGML_CATALOG_FILES properly in advance or can I create catalog at the port's build time with xmlcatalog? > Besides, you use xmlcatmgr to create catalog files (see ports/52640). > All ports does not care about catalog files in a consistent way, > so I am working on this problem. I did not have chance to look at your PR yet, but it sounds promising. Thanks. Sergei From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 03:42:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B7737B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 03:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.macomnet.ru (relay.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8385643FCB; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 03:42:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay.macomnet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5HAgBx7507000; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:42:12 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:42:11 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: Ceri Davies In-Reply-To: <20030616152715.GA77635@submonkey.net> Message-ID: <20030617143253.Q97862@news1.macomnet.ru> References: <200306161408.h5GE8TRq010603@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030616150820.GA1865@i18n.org> <20030616190925.L50702@news1.macomnet.ru> <20030616152715.GA77635@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: John De Boskey cc: docs@FreeBSD.org cc: Hye-Shik Chang Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/internal machines.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:42:19 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, 16:27+0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 07:10:33PM +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, 00:08+0900, Hye-Shik Chang wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 07:08:29AM -0700, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > > maxim 2003/06/16 07:08:29 PDT > > > > > > > > FreeBSD doc repository > > > > > > > > Modified files: > > > > en/internal machines.sgml > > > > Log: > > > > bento is 5-CURRENT (5.1-BETA to be precise) not 4-STABLE. > > > > > > > > > > We have three additional machines on the ports cluster now; dosirak, > > > dalki and haessal. They are running 5-CURRENT, too. Can they be > > > documented on somewhere? And can donors (Yahoo! Korea and eSlim) > > > be documented? :) > > > > .. and rtp.freebsd.org cluster. > > > > IMHO we should document all of them. > > Yes. This is pretty much my fault; I volunteered to update these pages and > the committer's guide, but I am real low on spare time at the moment. OK, here is a preliminary diff for Rtp cluster, please review. Sorry but I have zero information about Yahoo! Korea and eSlim machines but I will be happy to add them if I get it. Index: machines.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/internal/machines.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.41 machines.sgml --- machines.sgml 16 Jun 2003 14:08:29 -0000 1.41 +++ machines.sgml 17 Jun 2003 10:40:37 -0000 @@ -289,6 +289,115 @@ and colocation is provided by Yahoo!. All systems have logged serial consoles and remote power control.

+ +

Rtp.FreeBSD.org cluster

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
HostOSPurposeOwner(s)
triangle4-STABLEreleng4 snapshots buildcommitters
8ball5-CURRENTReference machine for testing 5-CURRENT changescommitters
9ball5-CURRENTreleng5 snapshots buildcommitters
cueball5-CURRENTReference machine for testing 5-CURRENT changescommitters
+ + +

Hardware configurations

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HostTypeHardware
triangleIntel x862xAMD Athlon(tm) MP 2200+, 2GB mem, 1x19GB ATA100 drive, +2x95GB ATA100 drives, 2xIntel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B NIC.
8ballIntel x862xAMD Athlon(tm) MP 2200+, 2GB mem, 3x95GB ATA100 drives, +1xIntel PRO/1000 NIC, 2xIntel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B NIC.
9ballIntel x862.80GHz Pentium 4, 1GB mem, 3x36GB ATA100 drives, +2xIntel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B NIC.
cueballIntel x862x2.80GHz Pentium 4, 3GB mem, Adaptec SCSI RAID 5400S, +2xIntel PRO/1000 NIC.
+ +

Each systems comes with some small amount of disk attached +for local work. Home directories are handled by an NFS fileserver +on the internal/backside network. The main cvs repository is +mirrored and available at /home/ncvs.

+ +

Access to this cluster is controlled by the readability of your +public ssh keys on freefall (ie: if your public key is publicly +readable and you are in the access file, you have a login).

+ +

What this cluster is not, is a high bandwidth distribution point. +If/When large data transfers are required, they can be scheduled to +occur during non-prime time hours (typically 10pm to 6am EST, or during +weekend hours).

+ +

Administration requests should be sent to admins@rtp.FreeBSD.org.

+ +

Administrative Policies

If the machine in question is "owned" by someone specific, please %%% -- Maxim Konovalov, maxim@macomnet.ru, maxim@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 07:51:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DDF37B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.macomnet.ru (relay.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF8B43FAF; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:51:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay.macomnet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5HEpNx7607092; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:51:23 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:51:23 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030617184800.S876@news1.macomnet.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: alfred@freebsd.org Subject: SHMALL in pages, not in bytes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:51:27 -0000 Hello, I guess nobody will object to a diff below? Index: sys/i386/conf/LINT =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/Attic/LINT,v retrieving revision 1.749.2.144 diff -u -r1.749.2.144 LINT --- sys/i386/conf/LINT 4 Jun 2003 17:56:59 -0000 1.749.2.144 +++ sys/i386/conf/LINT 17 Jun 2003 14:44:56 -0000 @@ -294,7 +294,7 @@ # System V shared memory and tunable parameters options SYSVSHM # include support for shared memory options SHMMAXPGS=1025 # max amount of shared memory pages (4k on i386) -options SHMALL=1025 # max amount of shared memory (bytes) +options SHMALL=1025 # max number of shared memory pages system wide options SHMMAX="(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" # max shared memory segment size (bytes) options SHMMIN=2 # min shared memory segment size (bytes) %%% -- Maxim Konovalov, maxim@macomnet.ru, maxim@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 08:11:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FDC37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B7643FB1 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:11:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id D5AAB2ED460; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:11:53 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Maxim Konovalov Message-ID: <20030617151153.GO62025@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030617184800.S876@news1.macomnet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617184800.S876@news1.macomnet.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SHMALL in pages, not in bytes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:11:54 -0000 * Maxim Konovalov [030617 07:51] wrote: > Hello, > > I guess nobody will object to a diff below? It's good. > > Index: sys/i386/conf/LINT > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/Attic/LINT,v > retrieving revision 1.749.2.144 > diff -u -r1.749.2.144 LINT > --- sys/i386/conf/LINT 4 Jun 2003 17:56:59 -0000 1.749.2.144 > +++ sys/i386/conf/LINT 17 Jun 2003 14:44:56 -0000 > @@ -294,7 +294,7 @@ > # System V shared memory and tunable parameters > options SYSVSHM # include support for shared memory > options SHMMAXPGS=1025 # max amount of shared memory pages (4k on i386) > -options SHMALL=1025 # max amount of shared memory (bytes) > +options SHMALL=1025 # max number of shared memory pages system wide > options SHMMAX="(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" > # max shared memory segment size (bytes) > options SHMMIN=2 # min shared memory segment size (bytes) > %%% > > -- > Maxim Konovalov, maxim@macomnet.ru, maxim@FreeBSD.org -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 08:25:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1724637B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD2243F3F; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5HFP4kR002815; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:25:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:13:55 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <20030617111355.6c8eeb90.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030616211505.GC550@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <20030616171455.GB550@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030616132114.368a354c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030616211505.GC550@nosferatu.blackend.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Removal of some mini-faqs in the Handbook. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:25:12 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:15:05 +0200 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > I know very well that section since I wrote it :) I just noted the > removal of the mini-faq when I sent an user to the section 6.3 (I do > not read every commit mail). > The person complained about the Troubleshooting section layout. > If you really think the new layout is better than the previous one, > then that's Ok. My opinion is not: "keep the old layout", I just > want something easy to read. > By the way, you should keep the info about performance issues with > autoselect mode on some NICs since this mode is not seen by users as > an "incorrect network settings". > > For mail-trouble.html, I just hope it will be treated in a better way. I'm sorry if I have not given enough justice to your work, any suggestions on improving what I did? -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 09:02:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2005637B41A for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.168.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31E943FCB for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ernst@zaphod.euronet.nl) Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HDk2lt006659; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:46:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ernst@zaphod.euronet.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HDjw1b006652; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:45:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Ernst de Haan To: Eric Anderson , nigel@e-easy.com.au Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:45:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <002601c333c8$426f44d0$020aa8c0@aims.private> <3EEE7191.5020101@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <3EEE7191.5020101@centtech.com> X-Address: Muiderstraat 1, Amsterdam, Netherlands MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306171545.58386.znerd@FreeBSD.org> cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Color Scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:02:06 -0000 > The biggest reason it won't work out - try printing that out. One of the major advantages of CSS is that it allows specific rules for printing. Ernst From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 09:20:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9904437B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF39643F3F; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5HGKSkA069523; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:20:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:19:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030617.101934.113737889.imp@bsdimp.com> To: doc@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: core@freebsd.org Subject: A request for a volunteer X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:20:30 -0000 The core team needs someone with some docbook savvy to help us add some stuff to some of our web pages, and audit a couple of minor things. I anticipate it will take only about an hour or two for the work, but we need someone who can do it this week. If you have a lot of doc fu, and can help us this week, please drop me a note. Warner From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 10:00:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A8637B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop016.verizon.net (pop016pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE0743FAF for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dh@askdh.com) Received: from dunnevant.worksforfood.com ([151.205.70.244]) by pop016.verizon.netESMTP <20030617170001.PJTB3199.pop016.verizon.net@dunnevant.worksforfood.com>; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:00:01 -0500 Received: from askdh.com (unknown [192.168.0.17]) by dunnevant.worksforfood.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9352A2F996; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EEF491B.9040008@askdh.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:00:11 -0400 From: Daniel Harris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030611 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Konovalov References: <200306161408.h5GE8TRq010603@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030616150820.GA1865@i18n.org> <20030616190925.L50702@news1.macomnet.ru> <20030616152715.GA77635@submonkey.net> <20030617143253.Q97862@news1.macomnet.ru> In-Reply-To: <20030617143253.Q97862@news1.macomnet.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop016.verizon.net from [151.205.70.244] at Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:00:01 -0500 cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/internal machines.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:00:03 -0000 Maxim Konovalov wrote: >OK, here is a preliminary diff for Rtp cluster, please review. Sorry >but I have zero information about Yahoo! Korea and eSlim machines but >I will be happy to add them if I get it. > I was under the impression, when rtp was introduced,that it was not to be publically documented... has this changed? Message-ID: <20030124214407.GA84258@BSDWins.Com> "I would appreciate discussion of this resource be kept to developers@ for the time being." -- Daniel Harris From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 10:03:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0A837B404 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.macomnet.ru (relay.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8A443F85 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay.macomnet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5HH2ux7716687; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:02:56 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:02:56 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: Daniel Harris In-Reply-To: <3EEF491B.9040008@askdh.com> Message-ID: <20030617210059.G50063@news1.macomnet.ru> References: <200306161408.h5GE8TRq010603@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030616190925.L50702@news1.macomnet.ru> <20030617143253.Q97862@news1.macomnet.ru> <3EEF491B.9040008@askdh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/internal machines.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:03:03 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, 13:00-0400, Daniel Harris wrote: > Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > >OK, here is a preliminary diff for Rtp cluster, please review. Sorry > >but I have zero information about Yahoo! Korea and eSlim machines but > >I will be happy to add them if I get it. > > > I was under the impression, when rtp was introduced,that it was not to > be publically documented... has this changed? > > Message-ID: <20030124214407.GA84258@BSDWins.Com> > > "I would appreciate discussion of this resource be kept to developers@ > for the time being." Oh, I am really sorry, I didn't get it :-/. -- Maxim Konovalov, maxim@macomnet.ru, maxim@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 11:01:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FBC37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C296D43FA3 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5HI1bvN026232; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:01:37 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h5HI1bFo026230; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:01:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:01:37 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Alfred Perlstein Message-ID: <20030617180137.GA16570@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:01:42 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:06:45PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > I would like to host the config files for > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe/server-config.html > somewhere under our CVS, how shall I do that? IMO, the files should be inlined into the main document. As it stands the PDF is worse the useless since it doesn't include the config files. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+71d/XY6L6fI4GtQRAsdAAKDAnhIMJgThyRynGfmDfP4SmqFIbACfUHqH jtbFmrVyI10FkEr9Df4mmcs= =8hCN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 11:47:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE7537B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE0343F75 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 6CAF12ED413; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:47:36 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Brooks Davis Message-ID: <20030617184736.GR62025@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org> <20030617180137.GA16570@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617180137.GA16570@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:47:37 -0000 * Brooks Davis [030617 11:01] wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:06:45PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > I would like to host the config files for > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe/server-config.html > > somewhere under our CVS, how shall I do that? > > IMO, the files should be inlined into the main document. As it stands > the PDF is worse the useless since it doesn't include the config files. That would also work, what tags should I wrap the file text with so that can be accomplished? -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 12:18:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88B737B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB9643FAF for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5HJIUkR003364; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:18:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:07:20 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Alfred Perlstein Message-Id: <20030617150720.4d00bfce.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030617184736.GR62025@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org> <20030617180137.GA16570@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20030617184736.GR62025@elvis.mu.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:18:34 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:47:36 -0700 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Brooks Davis [030617 11:01] wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:06:45PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > I would like to host the config files for > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe/server-config.html > > > somewhere under our CVS, how shall I do that? > > > > IMO, the files should be inlined into the main document. As it stands > > the PDF is worse the useless since it doesn't include the config files. > > That would also work, what tags should I wrap the file text with so > that can be accomplished? > There are several methods you could use to accomplish this, for instance you could copy/paste the file in and use the programlisting tags. You could define it as an entity and use something like this: &config.file0; &config.file1; ... And if you need help, just ask. :) -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 12:27:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1E337B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8629C43F75; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:27:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: by builder.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 19160139D; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:27:50 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20030617192750.GP380@freebsdmall.com> References: <20030617.101934.113737889.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617.101934.113737889.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D cc: core@freebsd.org cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request for a volunteer X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:27:51 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 10:19:34AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > The core team needs someone with some docbook savvy to help us add > some stuff to some of our web pages, and audit a couple of minor > things. I anticipate it will take only about an hour or two for the > work, but we need someone who can do it this week. If you have a lot > of doc fu, and can help us this week, please drop me a note. I'm working on this today (commits in an hour or so) but I'll coordinate with Simon if there is anything else to do. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 13:40:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2557B37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C0343FB1 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HKe4Up003294 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HKe4eV003293; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306172040.h5HKe4eV003293@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7C637B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0705943FA3 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (cs242746-11.austin.rr.com [24.27.46.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DC4140CD for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:39:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (localhost.lonesome.com [127.0.0.1]) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5HKhtNa027305 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:43:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.lonesome.com) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5HKhs1J027304; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:43:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon) Message-Id: <200306172043.h5HKhs1J027304@lonesome.lonesome.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:43:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113.1 Subject: docs/53421: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 2 of 5: whitespace fixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:40:07 -0000 >Number: 53421 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 2 of 5: whitespace fixes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 17 13:40:04 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Linimon >Release: FreeBSD-4.7 >Organization: FreeBSD >Environment: System: FreeBSD lonesome.lonesome.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 8 23:46:29 CST 2002 root@lonesome.lonesome.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MULTIMEDIA i386 >Description: The Porter's Handbook is insufficiently clear in some places, and needs expanding in others. As requested I have tried to break out the rework that I did into several pieces. This second piece fixes whitespace issues; translators should be able to ignore. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- book.sgml.style_only Mon May 12 20:48:38 2003 +++ book.sgml Mon May 12 21:54:56 2003 @@ -581,9 +582,9 @@ Patching In the preparation of the port, files that have been added or - changed can be picked up with a recursive &man.diff.1; for later feeding to - &man.patch.1;. Each set of patches you wish to apply should be collected - into a file named + changed can be picked up with a recursive &man.diff.1; + for later feeding to &man.patch.1;. Each set of patches you + wish to apply should be collected into a file named patch-* where * denotes the sequence in which the patches will be applied — these are done in @@ -726,7 +727,8 @@ affects the content or structure of the derived package. - Examples of when PORTREVISION should be bumped: + Examples of when PORTREVISION + should be bumped: @@ -862,7 +864,8 @@ Example of <makevar>PORTREVISION</makevar> and <makevar>PORTEPOCH</makevar> usage - The gtkmumble port, version 0.10, is committed to the + The gtkmumble port, + version 0.10, is committed to the ports collection: PORTNAME= gtkmumble @@ -4332,17 +4335,21 @@ Changing <filename>pkg-plist</filename> based on make variables - Some ports, particularly the p5- ports, need to change their + Some ports, particularly the p5- ports, + need to change their pkg-plist depending on what options they are - configured with (or version of perl, in the case of p5- ports). To + configured with (or version of perl, in the case + of p5- ports). To make this easy, any instances in the pkg-plist of %%OSREL%%, %%PERL_VER%%, and %%PERL_VERSION%% will be substituted for appropriately. The value of %%OSREL%% is the numeric revision of the operating system (e.g., 2.2.7). %%PERL_VERSION%% is - the full version number of perl (e.g., 5.00502) - and %%PERL_VER%% is the perl version number minus + the full version number of perl (e.g., + 5.00502) + and %%PERL_VER%% is the perl + version number minus the patchlevel (e.g., 5.005). If you need to make other substitutions, you can set the @@ -4534,10 +4541,12 @@ testing of your commits. If you wish to use this service, all you need is a FreshPorts - account. If your registered email address is @FreeBSD.org, + account. If your registered email address is + @FreeBSD.org, you'll see the opt-in link on the right hand side of the webpages. For those of you who already have a FreshPorts account, but are not - using your @FreeBSD.org email address, just change your email to + using your @FreeBSD.org email address, + just change your email to @FreeBSD.org, subscribe, then change it back again. @@ -4666,7 +4678,8 @@ Do not write anything to files outside WRKDIR. WRKDIR is the only place that is guaranteed to be writable during the port build (see - compiling ports from CDROM for an + + compiling ports from CDROM for an example of building ports from a read-only tree). If you need to modify one of the pkg-* files, do so by Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 13:40:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8571437B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378F943FBD for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HKe4Up003281 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HKe4sn003280; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306172040.h5HKe4sn003280@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22B337B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459CF43FD7 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:37:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (cs242746-11.austin.rr.com [24.27.46.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B320C140CD for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:37:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (localhost.lonesome.com [127.0.0.1]) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5HKflNa027229 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:41:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.lonesome.com) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5HKfkPR027228; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:41:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon) Message-Id: <200306172041.h5HKfkPR027228@lonesome.lonesome.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:41:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113.1 Subject: docs/53420: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 1 of 5: style fixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:40:07 -0000 >Number: 53420 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 1 of 5: style fixes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 17 13:40:03 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Linimon >Release: FreeBSD-4.7 >Organization: FreeBSD >Environment: System: FreeBSD lonesome.lonesome.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 8 23:46:29 CST 2002 root@lonesome.lonesome.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MULTIMEDIA i386 >Description: The Porter's Handbook is insufficiently clear in some places, and needs expanding in others. As requested I have tried to break out the rework that I did into several pieces. This first piece fixes existing style bugs only. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- book.sgml.dist Sun May 11 18:41:11 2003 +++ book.sgml Mon May 12 20:51:50 2003 @@ -67,8 +67,8 @@ This file uses a non-standard tab setting. Emacs and Vim should recognize the setting on - loading the file. Both vi and - ex can be set to use the correct value by + loading the file. Both &man.vi.1; and + &man.ex.1; can be set to use the correct value by typing :set tabstop=4 once the file has been loaded. @@ -470,7 +470,7 @@ actions are done. For example, if you have a post-extract - target defined in your Makefile, and a file + target defined in your Makefile, and a file pre-build in the scripts subdirectory, the post-extract target will be called after the regular extraction actions, and the @@ -581,8 +581,8 @@ Patching In the preparation of the port, files that have been added or - changed can be picked up with a recursive diff for later feeding to - patch. Each set of patches you wish to apply should be collected + changed can be picked up with a recursive &man.diff.1; for later feeding to + &man.patch.1;. Each set of patches you wish to apply should be collected into a file named patch-* where * denotes the sequence in which the @@ -609,10 +609,10 @@ $RCS. Using the recurse () option to - diff to generate patches is fine, but please take + &man.diff.1; to generate patches is fine, but please take a look at the resulting patches to make sure you do not have any unnecessary junk in there. In particular, diffs between two backup - files, Makefiles when the port uses + files, Makefiles when the port uses Imake or GNU configure, etc., are unnecessary and should be deleted. If you had to edit configure.in and run @@ -643,7 +643,7 @@ Handling user input If your port requires user input to build, configure, or install, - then set IS_INTERACTIVE in your Makefile. This + then set IS_INTERACTIVE in your Makefile. This will allow overnight builds to skip your port if the user sets the variable BATCH in his environment (and if the user sets the variable INTERACTIVE, then @@ -661,7 +661,7 @@ Configuring the Makefile - Configuring the Makefile is pretty simple, and again we suggest + Configuring the Makefile is pretty simple, and again we suggest that you look at existing examples before starting. Also, there is a sample Makefile in this handbook, so take a look and please follow the ordering of variables @@ -669,7 +669,7 @@ read. Now, consider the following problems in sequence as you design - your new Makefile: + your new Makefile: The original source @@ -726,7 +726,7 @@ affects the content or structure of the derived package. - Examples of when PORTREVISION should be bumped: + Examples of when PORTREVISION should be bumped: @@ -736,7 +736,7 @@ - Changes to the port makefile to enable or disable + Changes to the port Makefile to enable or disable compile-time options in the package. @@ -808,7 +808,7 @@ enhancement, fix, or by virtue that the new package will actually work for them). If yes, the PORTREVISION should be bumped so that - automated tools (e.g. pkg_version) + automated tools (e.g. &man.pkg.version.1;) will highlight the fact that a new package is available. @@ -862,8 +862,8 @@ Example of <makevar>PORTREVISION</makevar> and <makevar>PORTEPOCH</makevar> usage - The gtkmumble port, version 0.10, is committed to the - ports collection. + The gtkmumble port, version 0.10, is committed to the + ports collection: PORTNAME= gtkmumble PORTVERSION= 0.10 @@ -893,7 +893,7 @@ force the new package to be detected as newer. Since it is a new vendor release of the code, PORTREVISION is reset to 0 (or removed - from the makefile). + from the Makefile). PORTNAME= gtkmumble PORTVERSION= 0.2 @@ -916,8 +916,8 @@ If PORTEPOCH were reset to 0 with this upgrade, someone who had - installed the gtkmumble-0.10_1 package would not detect - the gtkmumble-0.3 package as newer, since + installed the gtkmumble-0.10_1 package would not detect + the gtkmumble-0.3 package as newer, since 3 is still numerically less than 10. @@ -939,7 +939,7 @@ hyphen (-) in PORTVERSION. Also, if the package name has the language- or the - compiled.specifics part, use + -compiled.specifics part, use PKGNAMEPREFIX and PKGNAMESUFFIX, respectively. Do not make them part of PORTNAME. @@ -985,7 +985,7 @@ should be lowercase. (The rest of the name can contain capital letters, so use your own discretion when you are converting a software name that has some capital letters in it.) - There is a tradition of naming Perl 5 modules by + There is a tradition of naming perl 5 modules by prepending p5- and converting the double-colon separator to a hyphen; for example, the Data::Dumper module becomes @@ -1002,7 +1002,7 @@ the compiled-in defaults (the hyphen is optional). Examples are papersize and font units. - The compiled.specifics part + The -compiled.specifics part should be set in the PKGNAMESUFFIX variable. @@ -1180,7 +1180,7 @@ If there is absolutely no trace of version information in the original source and it is unlikely that the original author will ever release another version, just set the version string to - 1.0 (like the piewm example above). Otherwise, ask + 1.0 (like the piewm example above). Otherwise, ask the original author or use the date string (yyyy.mm.dd) as the version. @@ -1493,7 +1493,7 @@ perl5* - Ports that require perl version 5 to run. + Ports that require perl version 5 to run. @@ -1629,7 +1629,7 @@ windowmaker* Ports to support the WindowMaker window - manager + manager. @@ -2596,7 +2596,7 @@ This does not affect the MASTER_SITES you - define in your Makefile. + define in your Makefile. @@ -2665,7 +2665,7 @@ extract target and then from within the install target. Also, the name of the dependency is put into the package so that - pkg_add will automatically install it if it is + &man.pkg.add.1; will automatically install it if it is not on the user's system. @@ -2710,7 +2710,7 @@ The dependency is checked from within the install target. Also, the name of the dependency is put into the package so that - pkg_add will automatically install it if it is + &man.pkg.add.1; will automatically install it if it is not on the user's system. The target part can be omitted if it is the same as DEPENDS_TARGET. @@ -2814,9 +2814,9 @@ USE_PERL5 - The port requires Perl 5 to build and install. See + The port requires perl 5 to build and install. See for additional variables that - can be set relating to Perl. + can be set relating to perl. @@ -2888,8 +2888,8 @@ GNU autoconf to be run. Define USE_QT=yes if your port uses the latest qt toolkit. Use USE_PERL5=yes if your port requires version 5 - of the perl language. (The last is especially important since - some versions of FreeBSD have perl5 as part of the base system + of the perl language. (The last is especially important since + some versions of FreeBSD have perl5 as part of the base system while others do not.) @@ -2920,7 +2920,7 @@ BUILD_DEPENDS= ${NONEXISTENT}:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/jpeg:extract - will always descend to the JPEG port and extract it. + will always descend to the jpeg port and extract it. Do not use DEPENDS unless there is no other way the behavior you want can be accomplished. It will cause the @@ -3191,10 +3191,10 @@ - Using Perl + Using <literal>perl</literal> - Variables for ports that use Perl + Variables for ports that use <literal>perl</literal> @@ -3209,7 +3209,7 @@ USE_PERL5 - Says that the port uses Perl 5 to build and run. + Says that the port uses perl 5 to build and run. @@ -3219,28 +3219,28 @@ PERL_VERSION - The full version of Perl installed (e.g., + The full version of perl installed (e.g., 5.00503). PERL_VER - The short version of Perl installed (e.g., + The short version of perl installed (e.g., 5.005). PERL_LEVEL - The installed Perl version as an integer of the form MNNNPP + The installed perl version as an integer of the form MNNNPP (e.g., 500503). PERL_ARCH - Where Perl stores architecture dependent libraries. + Where perl stores architecture dependent libraries. Defaults to ${ARCH}-freebsd. @@ -3710,7 +3710,7 @@ <makevar>LIB_DEPENDS</makevar> - All port Makefiles are edited to remove minor numbers from + All port Makefiles are edited to remove minor numbers from LIB_DEPENDS, and also to have the regexp support removed. (E.g., foo\\.1\\.\\(33|40\\) becomes foo.2.) They will be matched using grep @@ -3741,7 +3741,7 @@ <literal>ldconfig</literal> - The ldconfig line in Makefiles should + The ldconfig line in Makefiles should read: ${SETENV} OBJFORMAT=${PORTOBJFORMAT} ${LDCONFIG} -m .... @@ -3768,7 +3768,7 @@ make it easier for users to see what to do, but try to share as many files as possible between ports. Typically you only need a very short Makefile in all but one of the directories if you - use variables cleverly. In the sole Makefiles, + use variables cleverly. In the sole Makefile, you can use MASTERDIR to specify the directory where the rest of the files are. Also, use a variable as part of PKGNAMESUFFIX so @@ -3891,7 +3891,7 @@ If your port anchors its man tree somewhere other than PREFIX, you can use the MANPREFIX to set it. Also, if only manpages in - certain sections go in a non-standard place, such as some Perl modules + certain sections go in a non-standard place, such as some perl modules ports, you can set individual man paths using MANsectPREFIX (where sect is one of 1-9, @@ -3945,7 +3945,7 @@ <makevar>USE_MOTIF</makevar> If your port requires Motif, define this variable in the - Makefile. This will prevent people who do not own a copy of Motif + Makefile. This will prevent people who do not own a copy of Motif from even attempting to build it. @@ -4217,7 +4217,7 @@ Edit pkg-plist and add equivalent @exec statements and also @unexec for - pkg_delete. + &man.pkg.delete.1;. Index: pkg-plist =================================================================== @@ -4274,7 +4274,7 @@ If you need to display a message to the installer, you may place the message in pkg-message. This capability is often useful to display additional installation steps to be taken - after a pkg_add or to display licensing + after a &man.pkg.add.1; or to display licensing information. @@ -4290,10 +4290,10 @@ <filename>pkg-install</filename> If your port needs to execute commands when the binary package - is installed with pkg_add you can do this via the + is installed with &man.pkg.add.1; you can do this via the pkg-install script. This script will automatically be added to the package, and will be run twice by - pkg_add. The first time as + &man.pkg.add.1;. The first time as ${SH} pkg-install ${PKGNAME} PRE-INSTALL and the second time as ${SH} pkg-install ${PKGNAME} POST-INSTALL. @@ -4321,10 +4321,10 @@ installation/deinstallation should proceed. The script will be run at installation time by - pkg_add as + &man.pkg.add.1; as pkg-req ${PKGNAME} INSTALL. At deinstallation time it will be run by - pkg_delete as + &man.pkg.delete.1; as pkg-req ${PKGNAME} DEINSTALL. @@ -4332,17 +4332,17 @@ Changing <filename>pkg-plist</filename> based on make variables - Some ports, particularly the p5- ports, need to change their + Some ports, particularly the p5- ports, need to change their pkg-plist depending on what options they are - configured with (or version of perl, in the case of p5- ports). To + configured with (or version of perl, in the case of p5- ports). To make this easy, any instances in the pkg-plist of %%OSREL%%, %%PERL_VER%%, and %%PERL_VERSION%% will be substituted for appropriately. The value of %%OSREL%% is the numeric revision of the operating system (e.g., 2.2.7). %%PERL_VERSION%% is - the full version number of perl (e.g., 5.00502) - and %%PERL_VER%% is the perl version number minus + the full version number of perl (e.g., 5.00502) + and %%PERL_VER%% is the perl version number minus the patchlevel (e.g., 5.005). If you need to make other substitutions, you can set the @@ -4477,7 +4477,7 @@ automatic; otherwise, this can often be done by simply replacing the occurrences of /usr/local (or /usr/X11R6 for X ports that do not use imake) - in the various scripts/Makefiles in the port to read + in the various scripts/Makefiles in the port to read PREFIX, as this variable is automatically passed down to every stage of the build and install processes. @@ -4505,7 +4505,7 @@ The variable PREFIX can be reassigned in your Makefile or in the user's environment. However, it is strongly discouraged for individual ports to set this - variable explicitly in the Makefiles. + variable explicitly in the Makefiles. Also, refer to programs/files from other ports with the variables mentioned above, not explicit pathnames. For instance, if @@ -4521,7 +4521,7 @@ if this is an X port, instead of -DPAGER=\"/usr/local/bin/less\". This way it will have a better chance of working if the system administrator has - moved the whole `/usr/local' tree somewhere else. + moved the whole /usr/local tree somewhere else. @@ -4534,11 +4534,11 @@ testing of your commits. If you wish to use this service, all you need is a FreshPorts - account. If your registered email address is @FreeBSD.org, + account. If your registered email address is @FreeBSD.org, you'll see the opt-in link on the right hand side of the webpages. For those of you who already have a FreshPorts account, but are not - using your @FreeBSD.org email address, just change your email to - @FreeBSD.org, subscribe, then change it back again. + using your @FreeBSD.org email address, just change your email to + @FreeBSD.org, subscribe, then change it back again. @@ -5699,8 +5699,8 @@ You need to include either the - pre.mk/post.mk pair or - bsd.port.mk only; do not mix these two. + bsd.port.pre.mk/bsd.port.post.mk pair or + bsd.port.mk only; do not mix these two usages. bsd.port.pre.mk only defines a few @@ -5867,7 +5867,7 @@ (executables started internally), sbin (executables for superusers/managers), info (documentation for info browser) or share - (architecture independent files). See man &man.hier.7; for details, + (architecture independent files). See &man.hier.7; for details; the rules governing /usr pretty much apply to /usr/local too. The exception are ports @@ -5901,7 +5901,7 @@ @unexec rmdir %D/share/doc/gimp 2>/dev/null || true This will neither print any error messages nor cause - pkg_delete to exit abnormally even if + &man.pkg.delete.1; to exit abnormally even if PREFIX/share/doc/gimp is not empty due to other ports installing some files in there. @@ -6037,7 +6037,7 @@ PREFIX/etc, do not just install them and list them in pkg-plist. That will cause - pkg_delete to delete files carefully edited by + &man.pkg.delete.1; to delete files carefully edited by the user and a new installation to wipe them out. Instead, install sample files with a suffix @@ -6082,7 +6082,7 @@ Please use the correct make variable as each make variable conveys radically different meanings to both users, and to automated systems that parse - Makefiles. + Makefiles. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 13:50:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6721B37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2822043FB1 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HKoAUp003643 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HKoAsd003642; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306172050.h5HKoAsd003642@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329CA37B404 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745D843F85 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:48:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (cs242746-11.austin.rr.com [24.27.46.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F602142D7 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:48:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (localhost.lonesome.com [127.0.0.1]) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5HKqGNa027509 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:52:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.lonesome.com) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5HKqGTt027508; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:52:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon) Message-Id: <200306172052.h5HKqGTt027508@lonesome.lonesome.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:52:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113.1 Subject: docs/53424: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 4 of 5: catchup patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:50:14 -0000 >Number: 53424 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 4 of 5: catchup patch >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 17 13:50:10 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Linimon >Release: FreeBSD-4.7 >Organization: FreeBSD >Environment: System: FreeBSD lonesome.lonesome.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 8 23:46:29 CST 2002 root@lonesome.lonesome.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MULTIMEDIA i386 >Description: The Porter's Handbook is insufficiently clear in some places, and needs expanding in others. As requested I have tried to break out the rework that I did into several pieces. Unfortunately the Handbook has been changing underneath me while these patches have been circulating. This patch is necessary to make up for the fact that the first set of patches I did several weeks ago no longer applies cleanly. This patch requires parts 1-3 as a prerequisite. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- book.sgml Sat May 24 13:56:33 2003 +++ book.sgml.mcl.new Sat May 24 13:49:49 2003 @@ -82,7 +82,12 @@ When this document is not sufficiently detailed, you should refer to /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, which - all port Makefiles include. Even if you do not hack Makefiles + all port Makefiles include. + (This is the file that actually + controls the actual port build process, so if this document says + one thing and bsd.port.mk says another, + bsd.port.mk is correct.) + Even if you do not hack Makefiles daily, it is well commented, and you will still gain much knowledge from it. Additionally, you may send specific questions to the &a.ports;. @@ -4711,24 +4656,35 @@ When you notice that a port is out of date compared to the latest version from the original authors, first make sure you have the latest port. You can find them in the - ports/ports-current directory of the FTP mirror + ports/ports-current directory of the FreeBSD FTP mirror sites. You may also use CVSup to keep your whole ports collection up-to-date, as described in the Handbook. The next step is to send an email to the maintainer, if one is - listed in the port's Makefile. That person may + listed, in the port's Makefile. (Note that + unmaintained ports are listed under the name of + ports@FreeBSD.org; mail to that address + probably will not help in this case). An active maintainer may already be working on an upgrade, or have a reason to not upgrade the port right now (because of, for example, stability problems of the new - version). + version), so you will not want to duplicate work in that case. - If the maintainer asks you to do the upgrade or there is not any - such person to begin with, please make the upgrade and send the - recursive diff (either unified or context diff is fine, but port - committers appear to prefer unified diff more) of the new and old + If the maintainer asks you to do the upgrade or the maintainer + is ports@FreeBSD.org, + please make the upgrade and send the recursive diff + of the new and old ports directories to us (e.g., if your modified port directory is called superedit and the original is in our tree as superedit.bak, then send us the result of - diff -ruN superedit.bak superedit). Please examine + diff -ruN superedit.bak superedit). + Either unified or context diff is fine, but port + committers appear to prefer unified diff more. + Note the use of the -N option—this is + the accepted way to force diff to properly deal with the case of + new files being added or old files being deleted. + + Please examine + the output to make sure all the changes make sense. The best way to send us the diff is by including it via &man.send-pr.1; (category ports). If you are the maintainer for the port, >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 13:50:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E1937B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3333243F85 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HKoAUp003617 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HKoA38003615; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306172050.h5HKoA38003615@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B1437B404 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA8143F3F for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (cs242746-11.austin.rr.com [24.27.46.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A1D140D7 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:45:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (localhost.lonesome.com [127.0.0.1]) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5HKnSNa027422 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:49:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.lonesome.com) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5HKnSHr027421; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:49:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon) Message-Id: <200306172049.h5HKnSHr027421@lonesome.lonesome.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:49:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113.1 Subject: docs/53422: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 3 of 5: additional content X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:50:15 -0000 >Number: 53422 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 3 of 5: additional content >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 17 13:50:09 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Linimon >Release: FreeBSD-4.7 >Organization: FreeBSD >Environment: System: FreeBSD lonesome.lonesome.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 8 23:46:29 CST 2002 root@lonesome.lonesome.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MULTIMEDIA i386 >Description: The Porter's Handbook is insufficiently clear in some places, and needs expanding in others. As requested I have tried to break out the rework that I did into several pieces. This third piece is what adds the main content that I did. Parts 1 and 2 of this patch represent the factoring-out of the work that I did into parts that have 1) only to do with style fixes; 2) only have to do with whitespace. Both are prerequisites for this patch to apply cleanly. Translators should note that some of these changes are changed themselves by parts 4 and 5; these were based on later changes to the handbook made by others while these patches were still circulating, and feedback reflecting the concerns of others. I apologize for any extra work that this will put on you; however, as these patches have been circulating for some time, I've had to redo the patches on multiple occasions and this is about the best I can do. Fortunately several parts of 5) merely remove some of these changes, as various people objected to them. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- book.sgml.style_and_whitespace Mon May 12 21:50:47 2003 +++ book.sgml Mon May 12 22:20:20 2003 @@ -42,10 +42,38 @@ + + Introduction + + The FreeBSD ports collection is the way almost everyone + installs applications ("ports") on FreeBSD. Like everything + else about FreeBSD, it is primarily a volunteer effort. + It's important to keep this in mind when reading this + document. + + In FreeBSD, anyone may submit a new port, or volunteer + to maintain an existing port if it is unmaintained—you + do not need any special commit privileges to do so. + Over time, if you gain experience and respect within the + developer community, you may eventually gain a ports + "commit bit" and thus become a ports "committer" + —someone who has the right to commit to the FreeBSD + ports CVS tree. + + A typical problem, however, is that there are many + more people who want to add new ports than to maintain + existing ports, and many more people who want to maintain + existing ports than who want to serve as ports committers. + Please keep this in mind when deciding whether to port + something in the first place—it does not make the project + overall look good to have ports in the tree that do not + work because they are no longer maintained. + + Making a port yourself - So, now you are interested in making your own port or + So, you are still interested in making your own port or upgrading an existing one? Great! What follows are some guidelines for creating a new port for @@ -64,8 +96,9 @@ Only a fraction of the variables (VAR) that can be overridden are mentioned in this document. Most (if not all) - are documented at the start of bsd.port.mk. - This file uses a non-standard tab setting. + are documented at the start of bsd.port.mk; + the others probably ought to be. + Note that this file uses a non-standard tab setting: Emacs and Vim should recognize the setting on loading the file. Both &man.vi.1; and @@ -79,7 +112,8 @@ Quick Porting This section tells you how to do a quick port. In many cases, it - is not enough, but we will see. + is not sufficient, so you will have to read further on into + the document. First, get the original tarball and put it into DISTDIR, which defaults to @@ -134,7 +168,12 @@ pkg-descr and pkg-plist. Their pkg- prefix distinguishes them from - other files. + other files. (Note: the former + pkg-comment files have now been folded + into the Makefiles themselves as the + one-line COMMENT variable and are + thus deprecated. Please make sure your port does not + include them.) <filename>pkg-descr</filename> @@ -497,8 +536,8 @@ make sure all the stages up to that one are completed and call the real targets or scripts, and they are not intended to be changed. If you want to fix the extraction, fix - do-extract, but never ever touch - extract! + do-extract, but never ever change + the way extract operates! Now that you understand what goes on when the user types @@ -516,16 +555,26 @@ mainstream sources when and where you can. + You will need to set the variable MASTER_SITES + to reflect where the original tarball resides. You will find + convenient shorthand definitions for most mainstream sites + in bsd.sites.mk. Please use these + sites—and the associated definitions—if + at all possible, to help avoid the problem of having the same + information repeated over again many times in the source base. + As these sites tend to change over time, this becomes a + maintainence nightmare for everyone involved. + If you cannot find a FTP/HTTP site that is well-connected to the net, or can only find sites that have irritatingly non-standard formats, you might want to put a copy on a reliable FTP or HTTP - server that you control (e.g., your home page). Make sure you set - MASTER_SITES to reflect your choice. + server that you control (e.g., your home page). If you cannot find somewhere convenient and reliable to put the distfile we can house it ourselves - on ftp.FreeBSD.org. + on ftp.FreeBSD.org; however, this is the + least-preferred solution, as files housed there tend to get stale. The distfile must be placed into ~/public_distfiles/ of someone's freefall account. @@ -535,9 +584,14 @@ MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR to their freefall username. - If your port's distfile changes all the time for no good reason, + If your port's distfile changes all the time without any + kind of version update by the author, consider putting the distfile in your home page and listing it as - the first MASTER_SITES. This will prevent users + the first MASTER_SITES. (It is too bad we + cannot always talk port authors out of doing this, because it + really helps to establish some kind of source code control, but + alas this is not always easy). Hosting your own version will + prevent users from getting checksum mismatch errors, and also reduce the workload of maintainers of our FTP site. Also, if there is only one master site for the port, it is recommended that @@ -583,8 +637,9 @@ In the preparation of the port, files that have been added or changed can be picked up with a recursive &man.diff.1; - for later feeding to &man.patch.1;. Each set of patches you - wish to apply should be collected into a file named + for later feeding to &man.patch.1;. + Each set of patches you wish to apply should be collected + into a file named patch-* where * denotes the sequence in which the patches will be applied — these are done in @@ -644,12 +699,13 @@ Handling user input If your port requires user input to build, configure, or install, - then set IS_INTERACTIVE in your Makefile. This + you must set IS_INTERACTIVE in your Makefile. This will allow overnight builds to skip your port if the user sets the variable BATCH in his environment (and if the user sets the variable INTERACTIVE, then only those ports requiring interaction are - built). + built). This will save a lot of wasted time on the set of + machines that continually build ports (see below). It is also recommended that if there are reasonable default answers to the questions, you check the @@ -669,6 +725,19 @@ and sections in that template to make your port easier for others to read. + + There are a large number of port Makefiles + in the ports collection that get the ordering of these variables + wrong. Please do not blindly copy other Makefiles + from other ports without checking the order of these variables; + this just encourages wider propogation of bad usage in the source + base. If in doubt of what the canonical order of the + variables ought to be, try to follow the order in + bsd.port.mk. (In fact blindly copying + other Makefiles may encourage even worse + brokenness that just the ordering of the variables!) + + Now, consider the following problems in sequence as you design your new Makefile: @@ -805,10 +874,12 @@ A rule of thumb is to ask yourself whether a change - committed to a port is something which someone, somewhere, + committed to a port is something which everyone would benefit from having (either because of an enhancement, fix, or by virtue that the new package will - actually work for them). If yes, the + actually work at all), and weigh that against that fact + that it will cause everyone who regularly updates their + ports tree to be compelled to update. If yes, the PORTREVISION should be bumped so that automated tools (e.g. &man.pkg.version.1;) will highlight the fact that a new package is @@ -830,7 +901,7 @@ PORTEPOCH version should be increased. If PORTEPOCH is nonzero it is appended to the package name as described in section 0 above. - PORTEPOCH is never decreased or reset + PORTEPOCH must never be decreased or reset to zero, because that would cause comparison to a package from an earlier epoch to fail (i.e. the package would not be detected as out of date): the new version number (e.g. @@ -840,6 +911,12 @@ automated tools and found to be greater than the implied suffix ,0 on the earlier package. + Dropping or resetting PORTEPOCH + incorrectly is a common error in the ports collection and leads + to no end of grief; if you do not understand the above discussion, + please keep after it until you do, or ask questions on + the mailing lists. + It is expected that PORTEPOCH will not be used for the majority of ports, and that sensible use of PORTVERSION can often pre-empt @@ -890,7 +967,7 @@ 0.1.0, not what comes after 0.9 - oops, too late now). Since the new minor version 2 is numerically less than the - previous version 10 the + previous version 10, the PORTEPOCH must be bumped to manually force the new package to be detected as newer. Since it is a new vendor release of the code, @@ -921,7 +998,12 @@ installed the gtkmumble-0.10_1 package would not detect the gtkmumble-0.3 package as newer, since 3 is still numerically less than - 10. + 10. This is the whole point of + PORTEPOCH in the first place. + + Yes, this is subtle, but again, do not fiddle with + the setting of PORTEPOCH until you + understand this! @@ -937,11 +1019,11 @@ ${PKGNAMEPREFIX}${PORTNAME}${PKGNAMESUFFIX}-${PORTVERSION}. Make sure this conforms to our guidelines for a good package - name. In particular, you are not allowed to use a + name. In particular, you are not allowed to use a hyphen (-) in PORTVERSION. Also, if the package name has the language- or the - -compiled.specifics part, use + -compiled.specifics part (see below), use PKGNAMEPREFIX and PKGNAMESUFFIX, respectively. Do not make them part of PORTNAME. @@ -952,7 +1034,7 @@ The following are the conventions you should follow in naming your packages. This is to have our package directory easy to scan, as - there are already lots and lots of packages and users are going to + there are already thousands of packages and users are going to turn away if they hurt their eyes! The package name should look like @@ -1216,16 +1298,29 @@ If your port truly belongs to something that is different from all the existing ones, you can even create a new category name. In that case, please send mail to the &a.ports; to propose a new - category. + category. However, in general, until there are more than a + handful of ports which could be reclassified into the category + you propose, you will probably be turned down. + + (Aside: occasionally someone proposes redoing the categories + as either a 2-level structure, or some other kind of keyword + structure. To date, nothing has come of any of these proposals, + because while they are very easy to make, the effort involved to + retrofit the entire existing ports collection with any kind of + reorganization is daunting to say the very least. Please read + the history of these proposals in the past mailing lists before + you post this idea; further, you should be prepared to be + challenged to offer some kind of working prototype.) Current list of categories - First, this is the current list of port categories. Those + Here is the current list of port categories. Those marked with an asterisk (*) are virtual categories—those that do not have - a corresponding subdirectory in the ports tree. + a corresponding subdirectory in the ports tree. They are only + used as secondary categories, and only for search purposes. For non-virtual categories, you will find a one-line @@ -1251,7 +1346,9 @@ afterstep* - Ports to support the AfterStep window manager. + Ports to support the + + AfterStep window manager. @@ -1291,8 +1388,8 @@ comms - Communication software. Mostly software to talk to - your serial port. + Communication software. (Mostly software to talk to + your serial port.) @@ -1313,17 +1410,17 @@ devel - Development utilities. Do not put libraries here just + Development utilities. (Note: do not put libraries here just because they are libraries—unless they truly do not belong anywhere else, they should not be in this - category. + category.) editors - General editors. Specialized editors go in the section + General editors. (Specialized editors go in the section for those tools (e.g., a mathematical-formula editor will go - in math). + in math) ). @@ -1333,12 +1430,12 @@ emulators - Emulators for other operating systems. Terminal + Emulators for other operating systems. (Terminal emulators do not belong here—X-based ones should go to x11 and text-based ones to either comms or misc, - depending on the exact functionality. + depending on the exact functionality.) @@ -1353,10 +1450,10 @@ ftp - FTP client and server utilities. If your + FTP client and server utilities. (If your port speaks both FTP and HTTP, put it in ftp with a secondary - category of www. + category of www.) @@ -1371,8 +1468,9 @@ gnome* - Ports from the GNU Object Model Environment (GNOME) - Project. + Ports from the + GNOME + project. @@ -1417,8 +1515,9 @@ kde* - Ports from the K Desktop Environment (KDE) - Project. + Ports from the + K Desktop Environment (KDE) + Project. @@ -1455,12 +1554,15 @@ misc Miscellaneous utilities—basically things that - do not belong anywhere else. This is the only category + do not belong anywhere else. (This is the only category that should not appear with any other non-virtual category. If you have misc with something else in your CATEGORIES line, that means you can safely delete misc and just put the port - in that other subdirectory! + in that other subdirectory! Also note: if at all possible, + try to find a better category for your port than + misc; ports tend to get overlooked + in here.) @@ -1480,12 +1582,14 @@ offix* - Ports from the OffiX suite. + Ports from the + OffiX suite. palm - Software support for the Palm(tm) series. + Software support for the + Palm(tm) series. @@ -1495,17 +1599,21 @@ perl5* - Ports that require perl version 5 to run. + Ports that require perl version 5 to run. picobsd - Ports to support PicoBSD. + Ports to support + + PicoBSD. plan9* - Various programs from Plan9. + Various programs from + + Plan9. @@ -1515,13 +1623,15 @@ print - Printing software. Desktop publishing tools - (previewers, etc.) belong here too. + Printing software. (Desktop publishing tools + (previewers, etc.) belong here too.) python* - Software related to the Python language. + Software related to the + Python + language. @@ -1584,8 +1694,9 @@ textproc - Text processing utilities. It does not include - desktop publishing tools, which go to print. + Text processing utilities. (This does not include + desktop publishing tools, which should go to + print.) @@ -1636,19 +1747,19 @@ www - Software related to the World Wide Web. HTML language - support belongs here too. + Software related to the World Wide Web. (HTML language + support belongs here too.) x11 - The X Window System and friends. This category is only + The X Window System and friends. (This category is only for software that directly supports the window system. Do not - put regular X applications here. If your port is an X + put regular X applications here; most of them should go + into other x11-* categories (see below). + Note: if your port is an X application, define USE_XLIB (implied by - USE_IMAKE) and put it in the appropriate - categories. Also, many of them go into other - x11-* categories (see below). + USE_IMAKE) ). @@ -1683,7 +1794,8 @@ zope* - Zope support. + Zope + support. @@ -1709,11 +1821,12 @@ Specific categories win over less-specific ones. For instance, an HTML editor should be listed as www - editors, not the other way around. Also, you do not - need to list net when the port belongs to + editors, not the other way around. Also, you should + not list net when the port belongs to any of irc, mail, mbone, news, - security, or www. + security, or www, as + net is included implicitly. @@ -1743,8 +1856,10 @@ If you are not sure about the category, please put a comment to that effect in your &man.send-pr.1; submission so we can discuss it before we import it. If you are a committer, send a note - to the &a.ports; so we can discuss it first—too often new ports are - imported to the wrong category only to be moved right away. + to the &a.ports; so we can discuss it first. Too often, new ports are + imported to the wrong category only to be moved right away. + This causes unneccessary, and undesired, bloat in the master + source repository. @@ -1800,9 +1915,10 @@ It is recommended that you put multiple sites on this list, preferably from different continents. This will safeguard against - wide-area network problems, and we are even planning to add support + wide-area network problems. (We are hoping to add support for automatically determining the closest master site and fetching - from there! + from there in the future; having multiple sites will go + a long way towards helping this effort.) If the original tarball is part of one of the popular archives such as X-contrib, GNU, or Perl CPAN, you may be able @@ -1848,8 +1964,10 @@ neither of these are set then EXTRACT_SUFX defaults to .tar.gz. - You never need to set both EXTRACT_SUFX and - DISTFILES. + + You never need to set both EXTRACT_SUFX and + DISTFILES. + @@ -1937,6 +2055,10 @@ sites and subdirectories (MASTER_SITES:n) + (Consider this to be a somewhat advanced topic; + those new to this document may wish to skip this section at first). + + This section has information on the fetching mechanism known as both MASTER_SITES:n and MASTER_SITES_NN. We will refer to this @@ -2609,6 +2731,12 @@ Set your mail-address here. Please. :-) + The format used should be user@hostname.domain. + Please do not include any descriptive text such as your real + name in this entry—that merely confuses + bsd.port.mk. Instead, put that information + into your pkg-descr. + For a detailed description of the responsibilities of maintainers, refer to the MAINTAINER on Makefiles section. @@ -2620,7 +2748,8 @@ This is a one-line description of the port. Please do not include the package name (or version number of the software) in the comment. The comment - should begin with a capital, and end without a period. Here + should begin with a capital, end without a period, and + should not be surrounded by quotes. Here is an example: COMMENT= A cat chasing a mouse all over the screen @@ -2910,7 +3039,9 @@ When you type make clean, its dependencies are automatically cleaned too. If you do not wish this to happen, define the variable NOCLEANDEPENDS in your - environment. + environment. This may be particularly desireable if the + port has something that takes a long time to rebuild in its + dependency list, such as KDE, GNOME, Apache, and so forth. To depend on another port unconditionally, use the variable ${NONEXISTENT} as the first field @@ -2969,13 +3100,34 @@ WANT_IMLIB, and WANT_GNOME. + + + Circular dependencies are fatal + + + Do not introduce any circular dependencies into the + ports tree! + + + The ports building technology does not tolerate + circular dependencies. If you introduce one, you will have + someone, somewhere in the world, whose FreeBSD installation will + break almost immediately, with many others quickly to follow. + These can really be hard to detect, especially with, + for instance, the GNOME libraries. If in doubt, before + you make that change, make sure you have done the following: + cd /usr/ports; make index. That process + can be quite slow on older machines, but you may be able to + save a large number of people—including yourself— + a lot of grief in the process. + Specifying the working directory Each port is extracted in to a working directory, which must be - writable. The ports system assumes that the + writable. The ports system defaults to having the DISTFILES unpack in to a directory called ${DISTNAME}. In other words, if you have set: @@ -2987,7 +3139,7 @@ foo-1.0, and the rest of the files are located under that directory. - There are a number of variables you can set if that is not the + There are a number of variables you can override if that is not the case. @@ -3164,8 +3316,10 @@ This variable indicates that although we are allowed to generate binary packages, we are not allowed to put those packages, or the - port's DISTFILES, on to CDROM for resale. The - DISTFILES will still be available via FTP. + port's DISTFILES, onto a CDROM (or DVD-ROM) + for resale. The + DISTFILES will still be available via FTP + (or HTTP if you set it up that way.) NO_PACKAGE and NO_CDROM can be set simultaneously. @@ -3176,11 +3330,15 @@ Set this variable if the application's license also forbids us from mirroring the application's DISTFILES via - FTP. + FTP (or HTTP if you set it up that way.) Also set this if the application's license has general restrictions on who may use it, e.g. the application is for non-commercial use only. + + Note that the port committer should add an entry to + /usr/ports/LEGAL describing exactly + what the restriction entails. @@ -3563,31 +3721,31 @@ Using Bison - + This section is yet to be written. Using Java - + This section is yet to be written. Using Python - + This section is yet to be written. Using Emacs - + This section is yet to be written. Using Ruby - + This section is yet to be written. @@ -3956,7 +4114,8 @@ This variable will be set by bsd.port.mk to be the appropriate reference to the Motif library. Please patch the - source to use this wherever the Motif library is referenced in the + source of your port to reference this wherever the Motif library + is referenced in the Makefile or Imakefile. @@ -3991,7 +4150,7 @@ If your port installs fonts for the X Window System, put them in X11BASE/lib/X11/fonts/local. - This directory is new to XFree86 3.3.3. If it does not exist, + This directory was new to XFree86 3.3.3. If it does not exist, please create it, and print out a message urging the user to update their XFree86 to 3.3.3 or newer, or at least add this directory to the font path in /etc/XF86Config. @@ -4295,7 +4454,7 @@ is installed with &man.pkg.add.1; you can do this via the pkg-install script. This script will automatically be added to the package, and will be run twice by - &man.pkg.add.1;. The first time as + &man.pkg.add.1;: the first time as ${SH} pkg-install ${PKGNAME} PRE-INSTALL and the second time as ${SH} pkg-install ${PKGNAME} POST-INSTALL. @@ -4344,10 +4503,10 @@ %%PERL_VERSION%% will be substituted for appropriately. The value of %%OSREL%% is the numeric revision of the operating system (e.g., - 2.2.7). %%PERL_VERSION%% is - the full version number of perl (e.g., + 4.8). %%PERL_VERSION%% is + the full version number of perl (e.g., 5.00502) - and %%PERL_VER%% is the perl + and %%PERL_VER%% is the perl version number minus the patchlevel (e.g., 5.005). @@ -4476,7 +4635,7 @@ set, in which case it will be X11BASE (default /usr/X11R6). - Not hard-coding /usr/local or + Avoiding hard-coding /usr/local or /usr/X11R6 anywhere in the source will make the port much more flexible and able to cater to the needs of other sites. For X ports that use imake, this is @@ -4533,7 +4692,7 @@ FreshPorts sanity tests - FreshPorts has + has a sanity test feature which automatically tests each commit to the FreeBSD ports tree. If subscribed to this service, you will be notified of any errors which FreshPorts detects during sanity @@ -4584,6 +4750,12 @@ doing a commit. If the diff is more than about 20KB, please compress and uuencode it; otherwise, just include it in the PR as is. + Finally, please see the + + Writing the problem report section in the Problem + Reports article for more information about how to write + useful problem reports. + If your upgrade is motivated by security concerns or a serious fault in the currently committed port, please notify @@ -4603,14 +4775,20 @@ Dos and Don'ts + + Introduction + Here is a list of common dos and don'ts that you encounter during the porting process. You should check your own port against this list, - but you can also check ports in the PR database that others have + but you can also check ports in the + + PR database that others have submitted. Submit any comments on ports you check as described in Bug Reports and General Commentary. Checking ports in the PR database will both make it faster for us to commit them, and prove that you know what you are doing. + Stripping Binaries @@ -4678,7 +4856,7 @@ WRKDIR. WRKDIR is the only place that is guaranteed to be writable during the port build (see - compiling ports from CDROM for an + installing ports from a CDROM for an example of building ports from a read-only tree). If you need to modify one of the pkg-* files, do so by @@ -4777,13 +4955,13 @@ In FreeBSD 2.x, __FreeBSD__ is defined to be 2. In earlier versions, it is - 1. Later versions will bump it to match + 1. Later versions always bump it to match their major version number. If you need to tell the difference between a FreeBSD 1.x - system and a FreeBSD 2.x or 3.x system, usually the right answer + system and a FreeBSD 2.x or above system, usually the right answer is to use the BSD macros described above. If there actually is a FreeBSD specific change (such as special shared library options when using ld) then it @@ -5757,7 +5935,7 @@ OSVERSION - The numeric version of the operating system, same as + The numeric version of the operating system; same as __FreeBSD_version. @@ -5765,7 +5943,9 @@ PORTOBJFORMAT The object format of the system - (aout or elf) + (elf or aout; + note that for modern versions of FreeBSD, + aout is deprecated.) @@ -5817,6 +5997,11 @@ .if ${PORTOBJFORMAT} == "aout" ${LN} -sf liblinpack.so.1.0 ${PREFIX}/lib/liblinpack.so .endif + + You did remember to use tab instead of spaces after + BROKEN= and + TCL_LIB_FILE=, did you not? + :-). @@ -5873,7 +6058,7 @@ the subdirectory with the port's name, which is incorrect. Also, many ports put everything except binaries, header files and manual pages in the a subdirectory of lib, which does - not bode well with the BSD paradigm. Many of the files should be + not work well with the BSD paradigm. Many of the files should be moved to one of the following: etc (setup/configuration files), libexec (executables started internally), sbin @@ -5935,7 +6120,8 @@ other ports. This is the current list of UIDs between 50 and 999. - majordom:*:54:54:Majordomo Pseudo User:/usr/local/majordomo:/nonexistent + bind:*:53:53:Bind Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin +majordom:*:54:54:Majordomo Pseudo User:/usr/local/majordomo:/nonexistent cyrus:*:60:60:the cyrus mail server:/nonexistent:/nonexistent gnats:*:61:1:GNATS database owner:/usr/local/share/gnats/gnats-db:/bin/sh uucp:*:66:66:UUCP pseudo-user:/var/spool/uucppublic:/usr/libexec/uucp/uucico @@ -5982,6 +6168,16 @@ EXTRACT* instead, and using GNU_CONFIGURE instead of CONFIGURE_ARGS += --prefix=${PREFIX}. + + If you find yourself having to write a whole lot of lines + of new code to try to do something, please go back and review + bsd.port.mk to see if it contains an + existing implementation of what you are trying to do. While + hard to read, there are a great many seemingly-hard problems for + which bsd.port.mk already provides a + shorthand solution. There is almost nothing in + bsd.port.mk which was included by + accident and is not continually being worked on. @@ -5989,7 +6185,13 @@ CXX The port should respect both CC - and CXX variables. If it does not, + and CXX variables. What we mean by this + is that the port should not set the values of these variables + absolutely, overriding existing values; instead, it should append + whatever values it needs to the existing values. This is so that + build options that affect all ports can be set globally. + + If the port does not respect these variables, please add NO_PACKAGE=ignores either cc or cxx to the Makefile. @@ -6020,7 +6222,13 @@ Respect <makevar>CFLAGS</makevar> The port should respect the CFLAGS variable. - If it does not, please add NO_PACKAGE=ignores + Again, what we mean by this + is that the port should not set the value of this variable + absolutely, overriding the existing value; instead, it should append + whatever values it needs to the existing value. This is so that + build options that affect all ports can be set globally. + + Again, if it does not, please add NO_PACKAGE=ignores cflags to the Makefile. An example of a Makefile respecting @@ -6337,7 +6545,8 @@ Other resources to assist port maintainers include a list of package building logs and - errors and the hosted on the bento cluster, + and also the FreeBSD Ports distfiles survey. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 14:00:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F7B37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48E743F85 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HL0TUp004157 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5HL0TtD004156; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306172100.h5HL0TtD004156@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78F637B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB82043F75 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (cs242746-11.austin.rr.com [24.27.46.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0248D140D7 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:53:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (localhost.lonesome.com [127.0.0.1]) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5HKvENa027647 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:57:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.lonesome.com) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5HKvEnO027646; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:57:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon) Message-Id: <200306172057.h5HKvEnO027646@lonesome.lonesome.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:57:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113.1 Subject: docs/53425: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 5 of 5: based on feedback X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:00:31 -0000 >Number: 53425 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 5 of 5: based on feedback >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 17 14:00:29 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Linimon >Release: FreeBSD-4.7 >Organization: FreeBSD >Environment: System: FreeBSD lonesome.lonesome.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 8 23:46:29 CST 2002 root@lonesome.lonesome.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MULTIMEDIA i386 >Description: The Porter's Handbook is insufficiently clear in some places, and needs expanding in others. As requested I have tried to break out the rework that I did into several pieces. This last piece builds on parts 1-4 by incorporating feedback from various invdividuals, notably Tilman Linneweh but also including Giorgios Keramida and others. In several cases these patches simply result in some of the content additions in patch #3 being dropped as being too controversial. I apologize for the extra work that this adds for the translators, but keeping these patches both separate and also up-to-date while changes continue to be made to the underlying Handbook is becoming very difficult. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- book.sgml.mcl.newest Sat May 24 14:00:49 2003 +++ book.sgml Sat May 24 14:19:10 2003 @@ -53,21 +53,7 @@ In FreeBSD, anyone may submit a new port, or volunteer to maintain an existing port if it is unmaintained—you - do not need any special commit privileges to do so. - Over time, if you gain experience and respect within the - developer community, you may eventually gain a ports - "commit bit" and thus become a ports "committer" - —someone who has the right to commit to the FreeBSD - ports CVS tree. - - A typical problem, however, is that there are many - more people who want to add new ports than to maintain - existing ports, and many more people who want to maintain - existing ports than who want to serve as ports committers. - Please keep this in mind when deciding whether to port - something in the first place—it does not make the project - overall look good to have ports in the tree that do not - work because they are no longer maintained. + do not need any special commit privileges to do so. @@ -86,7 +72,7 @@ (This is the file that actually controls the actual port build process, so if this document says one thing and bsd.port.mk says another, - bsd.port.mk is correct.) + it's a bug in this document; please submit a PR.) Even if you do not hack Makefiles daily, it is well commented, and you will still gain much knowledge from it. Additionally, you may send specific questions @@ -168,12 +154,7 @@ pkg-descr and pkg-plist. Their pkg- prefix distinguishes them from - other files. (Note: the former - pkg-comment files have now been folded - into the Makefiles themselves as the - one-line COMMENT variable and are - thus deprecated. Please make sure your port does not - include them.) + other files. <filename>pkg-descr</filename> @@ -574,7 +555,7 @@ distfile we can house it ourselves on ftp.FreeBSD.org; however, this is the - least-preferred solution, as files housed there tend to get stale. + least-preferred solution. The distfile must be placed into ~/public_distfiles/ of someone's freefall account. @@ -587,10 +568,10 @@ If your port's distfile changes all the time without any kind of version update by the author, consider putting the distfile in your home page and listing it as - the first MASTER_SITES. (It is too bad we - cannot always talk port authors out of doing this, because it - really helps to establish some kind of source code control, but - alas this is not always easy). Hosting your own version will + the first MASTER_SITES. (If you can, try to + talk the author out of doing this, because it really helps to + establish some kind of source code control for projects like ours). + Hosting your own version will prevent users from getting checksum mismatch errors, and also reduce the workload of maintainers of our FTP site. Also, if @@ -725,19 +706,6 @@ and sections in that template to make your port easier for others to read. - - There are a large number of port Makefiles - in the ports collection that get the ordering of these variables - wrong. Please do not blindly copy other Makefiles - from other ports without checking the order of these variables; - this just encourages wider propogation of bad usage in the source - base. If in doubt of what the canonical order of the - variables ought to be, try to follow the order in - bsd.port.mk. (In fact blindly copying - other Makefiles may encourage even worse - brokenness that just the ordering of the variables!) - - Now, consider the following problems in sequence as you design your new Makefile: @@ -912,7 +880,7 @@ suffix ,0 on the earlier package. Dropping or resetting PORTEPOCH - incorrectly is a common error in the ports collection and leads + incorrectly leads to no end of grief; if you do not understand the above discussion, please keep after it until you do, or ask questions on the mailing lists. @@ -1001,10 +969,6 @@ 3 is still numerically less than 10. This is the whole point of PORTEPOCH in the first place. - - Yes, this is subtle, but again, do not fiddle with - the setting of PORTEPOCH until you - understand this! @@ -2749,8 +2713,7 @@ This is a one-line description of the port. Please do not include the package name (or version number of the software) in the comment. The comment - should begin with a capital, end without a period, and - should not be surrounded by quotes. Here + should begin with a capital, and end without a period. Here is an example: COMMENT= A cat chasing a mouse all over the screen @@ -3114,8 +3077,7 @@ circular dependencies. If you introduce one, you will have someone, somewhere in the world, whose FreeBSD installation will break almost immediately, with many others quickly to follow. - These can really be hard to detect, especially with, - for instance, the GNOME libraries. If in doubt, before + These can really be hard to detect; if in doubt, before you make that change, make sure you have done the following: cd /usr/ports; make index. That process can be quite slow on older machines, but you may be able to @@ -6202,9 +6164,7 @@ existing implementation of what you are trying to do. While hard to read, there are a great many seemingly-hard problems for which bsd.port.mk already provides a - shorthand solution. There is almost nothing in - bsd.port.mk which was included by - accident and is not continually being worked on. + shorthand solution. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 15:54:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A4537B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6D343FDD; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 1FBEB2ED442; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:54:30 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030617225430.GW62025@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030617050645.GI62025@elvis.mu.org> <20030617180137.GA16570@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20030617184736.GR62025@elvis.mu.org> <20030617150720.4d00bfce.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617150720.4d00bfce.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:54:31 -0000 * Tom Rhodes [030617 12:18] wrote: > > There are several methods you could use to accomplish this, for > instance you could copy/paste the file in and use the programlisting > tags. You could define it as an entity and use something like this: Ok, here's what I think would be optimal: the printed version should have the files inline, while the online version would have them as links (and possibly inline as well). Is this possible? -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 16:39:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B2937B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6741243FAF; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.d.allbsd.org (p56040-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.96.138.40]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B153B6A; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:39:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) h5HNd7SI087341; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:39:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:39:04 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030618.083904.41628067.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: bright@mu.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20030617225430.GW62025@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030617184736.GR62025@elvis.mu.org> <20030617150720.4d00bfce.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030617225430.GW62025@elvis.mu.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 3.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: trhodes@freebsd.org cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:39:25 -0000 Alfred Perlstein wrote in <20030617225430.GW62025@elvis.mu.org>: bright> the printed version should have the files inline, while the online version bright> would have them as links (and possibly inline as well). bright> bright> Is this possible? Yes. See . This is an example of dhcpd.conf only, though. I personally think it should be inline for both of the HTML version and the printable version. -- | Hiroki SATO / From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 17:19:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDDD37B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6EF43FBF; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:19:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 99F0B2ED44A; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:19:03 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Hiroki Sato Message-ID: <20030618001903.GY62025@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030617184736.GR62025@elvis.mu.org> <20030617150720.4d00bfce.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030617225430.GW62025@elvis.mu.org> <20030618.083904.41628067.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030618.083904.41628067.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: trhodes@freebsd.org cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxe doc cleanup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:19:04 -0000 * Hiroki Sato [030617 16:39] wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote > in <20030617225430.GW62025@elvis.mu.org>: > > bright> the printed version should have the files inline, while the online version > bright> would have them as links (and possibly inline as well). > bright> > bright> Is this possible? > > Yes. See article.html,article.ps} >. This is an example of dhcpd.conf only, though. > > I personally think it should be inline for both of the HTML version > and the printable version. Well the reason I want the actual files linked in the HTML is that I want people to be able to download them. thank you, I'll be checking it out tomorrow! -Alfred From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 19:09:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFBE37B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdone.bsdwins.com (www.bsdwins.com [192.58.184.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA1C43FA3; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwd@bsdwins.com) Received: from bsdone.bsdwins.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bsdone.bsdwins.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5I24EsH073927; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:04:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jwd@www.bsdwins.com) Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bsdone.bsdwins.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5I24Dd7073926; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:04:13 -0400 From: John De Boskey To: Maxim Konovalov Message-ID: <20030618020413.GA73874@BSDWins.Com> References: <200306161408.h5GE8TRq010603@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030616150820.GA1865@i18n.org> <20030616190925.L50702@news1.macomnet.ru> <20030616152715.GA77635@submonkey.net> <20030617143253.Q97862@news1.macomnet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617143253.Q97862@news1.macomnet.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: docs@FreeBSD.org cc: Hye-Shik Chang cc: John De Boskey Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/internal machines.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:09:50 -0000 ----- Maxim Konovalov's Original Message ----- > > OK, here is a preliminary diff for Rtp cluster, please review. Sorry > but I have zero information about Yahoo! Korea and eSlim machines but > I will be happy to add them if I get it. Hi Folks, A while back I started working on a separate page for the rtp cluster. I simply haven't had the time to follow up on getting it included into the www build. Please take a look at: http://rtp.freebsd.org/~jwd/m.html It is slightly out of date, and there is now an internal machine 'bankshot' not listed. I'll try to update it this evenning. If someone would like to take a look at getting this included and referenced from the main hardware page I'll be more than happy to try to keep it up to date. From my perspective, since we're gaining more different clusters, we should give them each a page and reference them from a main page. However, I'm happy with whatever you folks decide. One large page with many systems listed will still work. I would also like to have the ssh key and dmesg links be accurate once the final page is in place. Thanks, John From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 23:18:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686C237B401; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hanirc.kr.psi.net (hanirc.higlobe.net [203.255.112.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09E043F85; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perky@hanirc.kr.psi.net) Received: from hanirc.kr.psi.net (wendy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanirc.kr.psi.net (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h5I6IldA033688; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:18:47 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from perky@hanirc.kr.psi.net) Received: (from perky@localhost) by hanirc.kr.psi.net (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5I6Ijvb033687; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:18:45 +0900 (KST) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:18:45 +0900 From: Hye-Shik Chang To: Maxim Konovalov Message-ID: <20030618061845.GA33265@i18n.org> References: <200306161408.h5GE8TRq010603@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030616150820.GA1865@i18n.org> <20030616190925.L50702@news1.macomnet.ru> <20030616152715.GA77635@submonkey.net> <20030617143253.Q97862@news1.macomnet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617143253.Q97862@news1.macomnet.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: Yonsei University X-PGP: finger perky@freebsd.org cc: docs@FreeBSD.org cc: John De Boskey Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/internal machines.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:18:50 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 02:42:11PM +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > OK, here is a preliminary diff for Rtp cluster, please review. Sorry > but I have zero information about Yahoo! Korea and eSlim machines but > I will be happy to add them if I get it. Here's my one. Please feel free to reformat it, I'm not familiar with www/ conventions. :) Thank you for a favor! Index: machines.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/www/en/internal/machines.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.41 machines.sgml --- machines.sgml 16 Jun 2003 14:08:29 -0000 1.41 +++ machines.sgml 18 Jun 2003 06:08:36 -0000 @@ -289,6 +289,66 @@ and colocation is provided by Yahoo!. All systems have logged serial consoles and remote power control.

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Ports-building cluster in Korea

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HostOSPurposeOwner(s)
dosirak, dalki, haessal5-CURRENTPorts building clusterports team
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Hardware configurations

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HostTypeHardware
dosirakIntel x862x2.20GHz Pentium 4 Xeon, 4GB mem, Adaptec aic7899 Ultra160 SCSI adapt= er, +1x36GB SCSI-3 drive, 2xIntel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B NIC. +
dalki, haessalIntel x862x2.20GHz Pentium 4 Xeon, 2GB mem, Adaptec aic7899 Ultra160 SCSI adapt= er, +1x36GB SCSI-3 drive, 2xIntel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B NIC. +
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All machines are connected at 100Mbit/sec full-duplex to a dedicated +Cisco 2950G switch with redundant gigabit uplinks. Internet connectivity +and colocation is provided by Yahoo! +Korea and KIDC. And, the machines +are privided by eSlim Korea.

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Administrative Policies

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If the machine in question is "owned" by someone specific, please Regards, Hye-Shik =3D) --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8ARFDWUsWc/bS6QRAu4nAKDPKFhFWBsFzArz0BSpWtKMllUnlgCfbTcl ANiMEQMxczPX+DXansHF+qs= =ppmW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 06:12:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07BA37B401; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326F343FAF; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:12:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5IDCcbS069545; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:12:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h5IDCbiL069544; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:12:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:12:37 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030618151237.A69426@abigail.blackend.org> References: <20030616171455.GB550@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030616132114.368a354c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030616211505.GC550@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030617111355.6c8eeb90.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030617111355.6c8eeb90.trhodes@FreeBSD.org>; from trhodes@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:13:55AM -0400 X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Removal of some mini-faqs in the Handbook. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:12:42 -0000 On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:13:55AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:15:05 +0200 > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > > > > I know very well that section since I wrote it :) I just noted the > > removal of the mini-faq when I sent an user to the section 6.3 (I do > > not read every commit mail). > > The person complained about the Troubleshooting section layout. > > If you really think the new layout is better than the previous one, > > then that's Ok. My opinion is not: "keep the old layout", I just > > want something easy to read. > > By the way, you should keep the info about performance issues with > > autoselect mode on some NICs since this mode is not seen by users as > > an "incorrect network settings". > > > > For mail-trouble.html, I just hope it will be treated in a better way. > > I'm sorry if I have not given enough justice to your work, any suggestions > on improving what I did? > Well I just realized that there is no real good and easy solution to improve the layout without using the Question/Answer way :(( Anyway, it is not that important, just try to add back the "autoselect" thing to the current text, this will avoid to add it later in the future FAQ/document. Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 11:50:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4061E37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B4D43FB1 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:50:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5IIoGUp057205 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:50:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5IIoGMi057204; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306181850.h5IIoGMi057204@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Kuang-che Wu Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138EC37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kcwu.homeip.net (u142-187.u61-70.giga.net.tw [61.70.142.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BCD43F3F for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kcwu@kcwu.homeip.net) Received: from kcwu.homeip.net (fakeidkcwu@kcwu.homeip.net [127.0.0.1]) by kcwu.homeip.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5IIj6gd004059 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:45:06 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from kcwu@kcwu.homeip.net) Received: (from kcwu@localhost) by kcwu.homeip.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5IIj5ZA004058; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:45:05 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200306181845.h5IIj5ZA004058@kcwu.homeip.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:45:05 +0800 (CST) From: Kuang-che Wu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/53454: wrong sample code in manpage of wcwidth(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kuang-che Wu List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:50:17 -0000 >Number: 53454 >Category: docs >Synopsis: wrong sample code in manpage of wcwidth(3) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jun 18 11:50:15 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kuang-che Wu >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-BETA i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD kcwu.homeip.net 5.1-BETA FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #2: Wed May 7 16:00:34 CST 2003 root@kcwu.homeip.net:/files/usr.obj/usr/src/sys/DESKTOP i386 >Description: The sample code produces 19 column positions wide in first line, and 20 in rest lines. >How-To-Repeat: $ echo 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 | ./w 1234567890123456789 01234567890123456789 01234567890123456789 0 >Fix: while ((ch = getwchar()) != WEOF) { if ((w = wcwidth(ch)) > 0) column += w; - if (column >= 20) { + if (column > 20) { putwchar(L'\n'); - column = 0; + column = w; } putwchar(ch); if (ch == L'\n') column = 0; } Maybe you would like to fix it some other way. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 16:19:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6928937B401; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0540343F3F; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:19:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5INJ2Up086610; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5INJ2P5086605; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:19:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200306182319.h5INJ2P5086605@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/53420: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 1 of 5: style fixes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:19:03 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] rework of parts of Porter's Handbook part 1 of 5: style fixes Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jun 18 16:19:02 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Force myself to deal with these. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=53420 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 16:19:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E7237B404; 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My details are=20 JMC SOFTWARE=20 tel +353 1 6291282 fax +3531295 email info@thelinuxmall.com www.thelinuxmall.com All the best Joseph Coyle From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 04:10:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0135337B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE38D43FAF for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JBABUp069688 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5JBABfB069685; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306191110.h5JBABfB069685@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Andrey Simonenko Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FA237B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (oberon.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [195.245.194.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AB943FA3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (eth0.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.0.1.184]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CA619E75 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:05:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.18.54.109]) by comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5JBA8U04354 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:10:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: by pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C24D81FC; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:04:44 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <20030619110444.GA236@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:04:44 +0300 From: Andrey Simonenko To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/53488: Mistake in the strmode(3) manual page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:10:13 -0000 >Number: 53488 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Mistake in the strmode(3) manual page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jun 19 04:10:10 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Simonenko >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE and FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE >Description: There is a mistake in the ``RETURN VALUES'' section in the strmode(3) manual page: RETURN VALUES The strmode() function always returns 0. But strmode(3) is declared as: void strmode(mode_t mode, char *bp); so, it returns no value. >How-To-Repeat: Simply remove the ``RETURN VALUES'' section. >Fix: --- strmode.3.orig Fri Dec 14 20:33:59 2001 +++ strmode.3 Thu Jun 19 12:16:43 2003 @@ -135,11 +135,6 @@ The last character is a plus sign ``+'' if any there are any alternate or additional access control methods associated with the inode, otherwise it will be a space. -.Sh RETURN VALUES -The -.Fn strmode -function -always returns 0. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr chmod 1 , .Xr find 1 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org From: Andrey Simonenko Reply-To: Andrey Simonenko Cc: X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 09:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E0237B407 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1063043FBD for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JG0VUp088131 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5JG0VfP088130; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306191600.h5JG0VfP088130@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Lukas Ertl Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C4537B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mailbox.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA6143F93 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:51:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from le@univie.ac.at) Received: from korben.in.tern (adslle.cc.univie.ac.at [131.130.102.11]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h5JFooM7194616 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:50:54 +0200 Received: from korben.in.tern (korben.in.tern [127.0.0.1]) by korben.in.tern (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5JFoks5081509 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:50:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from le@korben.in.tern) Received: (from le@localhost) by korben.in.tern (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5JFoklE081508; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:50:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from le) Message-Id: <200306191550.h5JFoklE081508@korben.in.tern> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:50:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Lukas Ertl To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/53501: [PATCH] Handbook: update snapshots section of disks chapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lukas Ertl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:00:35 -0000 >Number: 53501 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Handbook: update snapshots section of disks chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jun 19 09:00:31 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Lukas Ertl >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Vienna University Computer Center >Environment: System: FreeBSD korben 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #14: Wed Jun 18 20:24:25 CEST 2003 le@korben:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KORBEN i386 >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: This patch removes some redundancies and adds a remark of mksnap_ffs(8). --- disks.diff begins here --- Index: disks/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/bsdcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.177 diff -u -r1.177 chapter.sgml --- disks/chapter.sgml 15 Jun 2003 09:53:45 -0000 1.177 +++ disks/chapter.sgml 19 Jun 2003 15:46:24 -0000 @@ -2524,38 +2524,45 @@ Soft Updates: File system snapshots. Snapshots allow a user to create images of specified file - systems, and treat them as a file. - Snapshot files must be created in the file system that the - action is performed on, and a user may create no more than 20 - snapshots per file system. Active snapshots are recorded - in the superblock so they are persistent across unmount and - remount operations along with system reboots. When a snapshot - is no longer required, it can be removed with the standard &man.rm.1; - command. Snapshots may be removed in any order, - however all the used space may not be acquired because another snapshot will + systems, and treat them as a file. Snapshot files must be + created in the file system that the action is performed on, + and a user may create no more than 20 snapshots per file + system. Active snapshots are recorded in the superblock so + they are persistent across unmount and remount operations + along with system reboots. When a snapshot is no longer + required, it can be removed with standard &man.rm.1;. + Snapshots may be removed in any order, however all the used + space may not be acquired because another snapshot will possibly claim some of the released blocks. - During initial creation, the flag (see the &man.chflags.1; manual page) - is set to ensure that even root cannot write to the snapshot. - The &man.unlink.1; command makes an exception for snapshot files - since it allows them to be removed - with the flag set, so it is not necessary to - clear the flag before removing a snapshot file. + During initial creation, the flag + (see &man.chflags.1;) is set to ensure that even + root cannot write to the snapshot. + &man.unlink.1; makes an exception for snapshot files since it + allows them to be removed with the flag + set, so it is not necessary to clear the + flag before removing a snapshot file. - Snapshots are created with the &man.mount.8; command. To place + Snapshots are created with &man.mount.8;. To place a snapshot of /var in the file /var/snapshot/snap use the following command: &prompt.root; mount -u -o snapshot /var/snapshot/snap /var - Once a snapshot has been created, they have several + Alternatively, you can use &man.mksnap.ffs.8; to create + the snapshot: + +&prompt.root; mksnap_ffs /var /var/snapshot/snap + + Once a snapshot has been created, it has several uses: - Some administrators will use a snapshot file for backup purposes, - because the snapshot can be transfered to CDs or tape. + Some administrators will use a snapshot file for + backup purposes, because the snapshot can be transfered to + CDs or tape. @@ -2576,8 +2583,8 @@ - &man.mount.8; the snapshot as a frozen image of the file system. - To &man.mount.8; the snapshot + Mount the snapshot as a frozen image of the file + system. To mount the snapshot /var/snapshot/snap run: &prompt.root; mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /var/snapshot/snap -u 4 @@ -2586,20 +2593,21 @@ - You can now walk the hierarchy of your frozen /var - file system mounted at /mnt. Everything will - be in the same state it was during the snapshot creation time. - The only exception is that any earlier snapshots will appear - as zero length files. When the use of a snapshot has delimited, - it can be unmounted with: + You can now walk the hierarchy of your frozen + /var file system mounted at + /mnt. Everything will be in the same + state it was during the snapshot creation time. The only + exception is that any earlier snapshots will appear as zero + length files. When the use of a snapshot has delimited, it + can be unmounted with: &prompt.root; umount /mnt &prompt.root; mdconfig -d -u 4 - For more information about and - file system snapshots, including technical papers, you can visit - Marshall Kirk McKusick's website at - http://www.mckusick.com. + For more information about + and file system snapshots, including technical papers, you can + visit Marshall Kirk McKusick's website at http://www.mckusick.com. --- disks.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 11:59:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E289D37B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AA243F3F; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:59:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5JIxFkR009368; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:59:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:44:21 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:59:18 -0000 Hey, In this email I have a patch to add information on symbolic permissions to the Unix Basics chapter of our handbook. Now I'm a little wierd on the table output and I know that it could use a few more tags, but I wanted to get a general idea before I put more work into it. Comments, suggestions, death threats welcome. Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes --- chapter.sgml Thu Jun 19 14:39:43 2003 +++ chapter.sgml.new Thu Jun 19 14:07:59 2003 @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ Permissions - Unix + permissionsoctal FreeBSD, being a direct descendant of BSD Unix, is based on several key Unix concepts. The first, and @@ -198,6 +198,135 @@ directories. If you want more information on file permissions and how to set them, be sure to look at the &man.chmod.1; manual page. + + + + + Tom + Rhodes + Contributed by + + + Symbolic Permissions + permissionssymbolic + + Symbolic permissions, sometimes refereed to as symbolic expressions, + uses characters in place of octal values to assign permissions to files + or directories. Symbolic expressions use the syntax of (who) (action) + (permissions), where the following values are available: + + + + + + Option + Letter + Represents + + + + + + (who) + u + File Owner + + + + (who) + g + Group owner + + + + (who) + o + Other + + + + (who) + a + All + + + + (action) + + + Adding permissions + + + + (action) + - + Removing permissions + + + + (action) + = + Explicitly set permissions + + + + (permissions) + r + Read + + + + (permissions) + w + Write + + + + (permissions) + x + Execute + + + + (permissions) + t + Sticky bit + + + + (permissions) + s + SUID or SGID + + + + + + These values are used with the chmod command + just like before, but with letters. For an example, you could use + the following command to block other users from accessing the files + in your home directory: + + &prompt.user;chmod go= * + + A comma separated list can be provided when more than one set + of changes to a file must be made. For example the following command + will remove the groups and world write permission + on FILE, then it adds the execute + permissions for everyone: + + &prompt.user;chmod go-w,a+x FILE + + + Most users will do not notice this, but it should be pointed out + that using the octal method will only set or assign permissions to + a file; it does not add or delete them. This means that the octal + method does not have an equivalent option to the following command: + + &prompt.root; chmod u+rw FILE + + The closest octal value would be 0600 and it would not + be the same. + From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 13:46:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4957F37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB59A43FA3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19T6Ip-000Igj-PR; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:46:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:46:39 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: thelinuxmall Message-ID: <20030619204639.GE68905@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , thelinuxmall , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <000801c335fa$4173a560$0101a8c0@mooss> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c335fa$4173a560$0101a8c0@mooss> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dist Ireland X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:46:41 -0000 On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 01:32:24AM +0100, thelinuxmall wrote: > Hello > > I am a distributor of the Freebsd official boxed set in Ireland and would like to get a listing on Your site as a software vendor. > > Maybe You could let me know who I can contact with regard to this. > > My details are > > JMC SOFTWARE > tel +353 1 6291282 > fax +3531295 > email info@thelinuxmall.com > www.thelinuxmall.com 'Tis done. Cheers, Ceri -- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 14:38:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCBC37B407; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55A143F93; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 20D5710BF8C; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:38:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:38:58 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030619213857.GC408@nitro.dk> References: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:39:00 -0000 --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.06.19 14:44:21 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > In this email I have a patch to add information on symbolic permissions > to the Unix Basics chapter of our handbook. Now I'm a little wierd on > the table output and I know that it could use a few more > tags, but I wanted to get a general idea before I put more work into > it. >=20 > Comments, suggestions, death threats welcome. Thanks! A few minor style/docbook sugestions in attached patch. General comments below. > --- chapter.sgml Thu Jun 19 14:39:43 2003 > +++ chapter.sgml.new Thu Jun 19 14:07:59 2003 [CUT] + + (permissions) + s + SUID or SGID + Set UID / Set GID or something a bit more verbose perhaps ? [CUT] > + These values are used with the chmod command > + just like before, but with letters. For an example, you could use > + the following command to block other users from accessing the files > + in your home directory: > + > + &prompt.user;chmod go=3D * I think this is a bad example since it really doesn't prevent others =66rom reading e.g. dotfiles and the directory content. This section is targeting newbies I think it's better not to let them think they can "secure" a directory this way. I think a simple example with some random file would be fine - like the next example. > + A comma separated list can be provided when more than one set > + of changes to a file must be made. For example the following comm= and > + will remove the groups and world write permission When referencing world here (which I think is OK) I think "(World)" or something like that should be added group option in the table. > + Most users will do not notice this, but it should be pointed o= ut > + that using the octal method will only set or assign permissions to > + a file; it does not add or delete them. This means that the octal > + method does not have an equivalent option to the following command= : > + > + &prompt.root; chmod u+rw FILE > + > + The closest octal value would be 0600 and i= t would not > + be the same. > + I must say that I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here. Mode 0600 would be the same as (the rather obscure) "chmod u+rw-sx,go-swrx"... Just my 0.02 DKR, use a you like :). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8i1x8kocFXgPTRwRAqZKAJ9uI5Xed/s3Mfn7qIAggESogv6gQwCghqrI /1+WB1EwB6BR68Qz/GFpN0Y= =aaLu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 14:42:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E50237B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF64943FD7; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1863310BF8C; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:42:01 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030619214200.GD408@nitro.dk> References: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030619213857.GC408@nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zaRBsRFn0XYhEU69" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030619213857.GC408@nitro.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:42:03 -0000 --zaRBsRFn0XYhEU69 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="kvUQC+jR9YzypDnK" Content-Disposition: inline --kvUQC+jR9YzypDnK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.06.19 23:38:58 +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2003.06.19 14:44:21 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: >=20 > > In this email I have a patch to add information on symbolic permissions > > to the Unix Basics chapter of our handbook. Now I'm a little wierd on > > the table output and I know that it could use a few more > > tags, but I wanted to get a general idea before I put more work into > > it. > >=20 > > Comments, suggestions, death threats welcome. Thanks! >=20 > A few minor style/docbook sugestions in attached patch. General comments > below. Ups, patch should be attached this time... :-) --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --kvUQC+jR9YzypDnK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thodes-filemode-comments.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- chapter.sgml Thu Jun 19 23:35:29 2003 +++ chapter.sgml.sln Thu Jun 19 23:23:26 2003 @@ -200,13 +200,16 @@ page. =20 - - - Tom - Rhodes - Contributed by - - + + + + Tom + Rhodes + Contributed by + + + + Symbolic Permissions permissionssymbolic =20 @@ -229,7 +232,7 @@ (who) u - File Owner + File owner =20 @@ -306,7 +309,7 @@ the following command to block other users from accessing the files in your home directory: =20 - &prompt.user;chmod go=3D * + &prompt.user; chmod go=3D * =20 A comma separated list can be provided when more than one set of changes to a file must be made. For example the following command @@ -314,7 +317,7 @@ on FILE, then it adds the execute permissions for everyone: =20 - &prompt.user;chmod go-w,a+x FILE + &prompt.user; chmod go-w,a+x FILE =20 =20 Most users will do not notice this, but it should be pointed out @@ -322,7 +325,7 @@ a file; it does not add or delete them. This means that the octal method does not have an equivalent option to the following command:<= /para> =20 - &prompt.root; chmod u+rw FILE + &prompt.user; chmod u+rw FILE =20 The closest octal value would be 0600 and it = would not be the same. --kvUQC+jR9YzypDnK-- --zaRBsRFn0XYhEU69 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8i4o8kocFXgPTRwRAv9hAJ9IEELQrNWDVq1tiJXciK6ykomgdgCgs/MY k/n8b4fu1QIe4P74k3xs/p8= =EGA2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zaRBsRFn0XYhEU69-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 14:45:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D26537B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183D743FCB; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5JLjWkR009860; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:45:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:30:38 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <20030619173038.27a8c4fc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030619213857.GC408@nitro.dk> References: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030619213857.GC408@nitro.dk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:45:37 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:38:58 +0200 "Simon L. Nielsen" wrote: > On 2003.06.19 14:44:21 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > In this email I have a patch to add information on symbolic permissions > > to the Unix Basics chapter of our handbook. Now I'm a little wierd on > > the table output and I know that it could use a few more > > tags, but I wanted to get a general idea before I put more work into > > it. > > > > Comments, suggestions, death threats welcome. Thanks! > > A few minor style/docbook sugestions in attached patch. General comments > below. > > > --- chapter.sgml Thu Jun 19 14:39:43 2003 > > +++ chapter.sgml.new Thu Jun 19 14:07:59 2003 > [CUT] > + > + (permissions) > + s > + SUID or SGID > + > > Set UID / Set GID or something a bit more verbose perhaps ? Perhaps. Thats actually a good idea, I'll just do it that way. > > [CUT] > > + These values are used with the chmod command > > + just like before, but with letters. For an example, you could use > > + the following command to block other users from accessing the files > > + in your home directory: > > + > > + &prompt.user;chmod go= * > > I think this is a bad example since it really doesn't prevent others > from reading e.g. dotfiles and the directory content. This section is > targeting newbies I think it's better not to let them think they can > "secure" a directory this way. I think a simple example with some > random file would be fine - like the next example. Have a better one I could use? > > > + A comma separated list can be provided when more than one set > > + of changes to a file must be made. For example the following command > > + will remove the groups and world write permission > > When referencing world here (which I think is OK) I think "(World)" or > something like that should be added group option in the table. At the time of writing, I couldn't think of a way to phrase it. Help on this would be great! > > > + Most users will do not notice this, but it should be pointed out > > + that using the octal method will only set or assign permissions to > > + a file; it does not add or delete them. This means that the octal > > + method does not have an equivalent option to the following command: > > + > > + &prompt.root; chmod u+rw FILE > > + > > + The closest octal value would be 0600 and it would not > > + be the same. > > + > > I must say that I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here. > > Mode 0600 would be the same as (the rather obscure) "chmod > u+rw-sx,go-swrx"... Ack, your right. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 14:54:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DC837B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689E943F3F; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:53:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E9CAB10BF8C; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:53:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:53:57 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030619215357.GE408@nitro.dk> References: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030619213857.GC408@nitro.dk> <20030619173038.27a8c4fc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XStn23h1fwudRqtG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030619173038.27a8c4fc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:54:00 -0000 --XStn23h1fwudRqtG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.06.19 17:30:38 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:38:58 +0200 > "Simon L. Nielsen" wrote: >=20 > > On 2003.06.19 14:44:21 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >=20 > > [CUT] > > > + These values are used with the chmod co= mmand > > > + just like before, but with letters. For an example, you could= use > > > + the following command to block other users from accessing the = files > > > + in your home directory: > > > + > > > + &prompt.user;chmod go=3D * > >=20 > > I think this is a bad example since it really doesn't prevent others > > from reading e.g. dotfiles and the directory content. This section is > > targeting newbies I think it's better not to let them think they can > > "secure" a directory this way. I think a simple example with some > > random file would be fine - like the next example. >=20 > Have a better one I could use? Just something simple like : These values are used with the chmod command just like before, but with letters. For an example, you could use the following command to block other users from accessing FI= LE: &prompt.user;chmod go=3D FILE= Or something along those lines. > > > + A comma separated list can be provided when more than one = set > > > + of changes to a file must be made. For example the following = command > > > + will remove the groups and world write permissi= on > >=20 > > When referencing world here (which I think is OK) I think "(World)" or > > something like that should be added group option in the table. >=20 > At the time of writing, I couldn't think of a way to phrase it. Help > on this would be great! I think it would be fine if you changed the "All" description in the table to something like : (who) a All (World) --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --XStn23h1fwudRqtG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8jD18kocFXgPTRwRAqVEAJ41f7jnAlkCfFYBAJBwSgK2TBc9YQCfaHdt 7zUCR2OKmcE9I6VZQE7QsmQ= =2wjo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XStn23h1fwudRqtG-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 15:06:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2C837B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB9B43F75; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19T7YA-000Iwc-Og; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:06:34 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:06:34 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030619220634.GF68905@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org, jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:06:37 -0000 On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 02:44:21PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: Real quick one here: > + Symbolic permissions, sometimes refereed to as symbolic expressions, > + uses characters in place of octal values to assign permissions to files ^^^^ "use" > + (who) > + u > + File Owner "u" stands for "user" here. > + Most users will do not notice this, but it should be pointed out > + that using the octal method will only set or assign permissions to s/do// Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 15:19:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D0F37B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491F043F75; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:19:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5JMJ3kR009990; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:19:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:04:09 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <20030619180409.1c65c382.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030619220634.GF68905@submonkey.net> References: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030619220634.GF68905@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:19:08 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:06:34 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 02:44:21PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Real quick one here: > > > + Symbolic permissions, sometimes refereed to as symbolic expressions, > > + uses characters in place of octal values to assign permissions to files > ^^^^ > > "use" > > > > + (who) > > + u > > + File Owner > > "u" stands for "user" here. > > > + Most users will do not notice this, but it should be pointed out > > + that using the octal method will only set or assign permissions to > > s/do// Completed, thank you. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 15:23:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F7E37B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D2443FA3; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5JMNekR010026; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:23:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:08:45 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <20030619180845.157676ec.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030619215357.GE408@nitro.dk> References: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030619213857.GC408@nitro.dk> <20030619173038.27a8c4fc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030619215357.GE408@nitro.dk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:23:45 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:53:57 +0200 "Simon L. Nielsen" wrote: > On 2003.06.19 17:30:38 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:38:58 +0200 > > "Simon L. Nielsen" wrote: > > > > > On 2003.06.19 14:44:21 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > > > > [CUT] > > > > + These values are used with the chmod command > > > > + just like before, but with letters. For an example, you could use > > > > + the following command to block other users from accessing the files > > > > + in your home directory: > > > > + > > > > + &prompt.user;chmod go= * > > > > > > I think this is a bad example since it really doesn't prevent others > > > from reading e.g. dotfiles and the directory content. This section is > > > targeting newbies I think it's better not to let them think they can > > > "secure" a directory this way. I think a simple example with some > > > random file would be fine - like the next example. > > > > Have a better one I could use? > > Just something simple like : > > These values are used with the chmod command > just like before, but with letters. For an example, you could use > the following command to block other users from accessing FILE: > > &prompt.user;chmod go= FILE > > Or something along those lines. I usually end with even if I wish to show an example. Last time I didn't there was a huge gap between the text and example. Done. Thanks! > > > > > + A comma separated list can be provided when more than one set > > > > + of changes to a file must be made. For example the following command > > > > + will remove the groups and world write permission > > > > > > When referencing world here (which I think is OK) I think "(World)" or > > > something like that should be added group option in the table. > > > > At the time of writing, I couldn't think of a way to phrase it. Help > > on this would be great! > > I think it would be fine if you changed the "All" description in the > table to something like : > > > (who) > a > All (World) > > Gotcha. This is done. I don't see the use in the patch you sent. The one with spaces after the &prompt.user;, as on the screen there is no space. However, I changed the last example to &prompt.user; in place of &prompt.root; for consistency. Thank you! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 16:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9793837B401; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC23543F3F; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:26:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D49A810BF8C; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 01:26:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 01:26:51 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030619232651.GM408@nitro.dk> References: <20030619144421.4edd2826.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030619213857.GC408@nitro.dk> <20030619173038.27a8c4fc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030619215357.GE408@nitro.dk> <20030619180845.157676ec.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BtmVPk+Smchi6n7w" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030619180845.157676ec.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: New section for the Unix Basics chapter. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:26:53 -0000 --BtmVPk+Smchi6n7w Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.06.19 18:08:45 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:53:57 +0200 > "Simon L. Nielsen" wrote: >=20 > > Just something simple like : > >=20 > > These values are used with the chmod command > > just like before, but with letters. For an example, you could use > > the following command to block other users from accessing FILE: > >=20 > > &prompt.user;chmod go=3D FILE > >=20 > > Or something along those lines. >=20 > I usually end with even if I wish to show an example. Last > time I didn't there was a huge gap between the text and example. Yes there should be a close para tag. I was just a bit to fast on the send button. > Gotcha. This is done. I don't see the use in the patch you > sent. The one with spaces after the &prompt.user;, as on the > screen there is no space. That was mainly for consitency, since thats how it's written in all the other examples I have seen in the handbook. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --BtmVPk+Smchi6n7w Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8ka78kocFXgPTRwRAh+GAKCV56b0bZ4sQZR4RnYk2fLUIZRXAwCgrzwk BrK4mBZMVEprpocNEXc58CA= =hOfx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BtmVPk+Smchi6n7w-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 06:27:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF1637B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omega.uar.net (Omega.UAR.Net [193.124.228.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6486743FBF; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 06:27:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vbilash@ukr.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by omega.uar.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5KDR6Fi005519; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:27:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from omega.uar.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (omega.uar.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01876-02; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:27:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bvv (Dial046.UAR.Net [194.44.215.46]) by omega.uar.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5KDPt6K004055; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:25:58 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <001701c33737$930f7aa0$66d82cc2@bvv> From: "vbilash" To: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:21:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:57:43 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: jkh@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org cc: joerg@FreeBSD.org Subject: FAQ about FreeBSD loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:27:21 -0000 Hello FreeBSD Core Team! The first thank You about russian documentation FreeBSD. I have one problem with loader. Situation: I have 2 HDD - first (master) FreeBSD 5.0 installed; second = (slave) - Windows - at one IDE both HDD. FreeBSD loader show me at startup: F1 FreeBSD F2 Dos F3 Drive1 How I have modify my /boot/boot0 for start Windows from slave HDD? And one DENGEROUS situation I had: when I press F3 (Drive1) at startup - = I'll couldn't load FreeBSD any more, I shoul boot from install FreeBSD = CD and reinstall. Could You help me? Waiting for Your replay... From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 12:50:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746E037B404 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C573F43F93 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:50:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19TRtb-000MA1-0H; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:50:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:50:02 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Christian Brueffer Message-ID: <20030620195002.GC84128@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Christian Brueffer , doc@freebsd.org References: <20030615162228.GU4002@unixpages.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030615162228.GU4002@unixpages.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ffsinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:50:14 -0000 On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 06:22:29PM +0200, Christian Brueffer wrote: > Hi, > > ffsinfo(8) was removed from the build (in -CURRENT) because of lacking > ufs2 support. It is however still referenced in a couple of system > manpages, e.g. tunefs.8. > I think these referenced should be removed from now, since we don't know > when (if) ffsinfo will be reconnected to the build. I know you already did this, but be prepared to put it all back. Lucas Ertl has only gone and fixed it! See PR bin/53517. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 13:15:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5505F37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B633743F75 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19TSI3-000MPP-89; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:15:19 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:15:19 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: John-Mark Gurney Message-ID: <20030620201519.GA86100@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , John-Mark Gurney , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030615181826.GC59754@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030615181826.GC59754@funkthat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: handobook mailinglists are out of data X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:15:22 -0000 On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 11:18:26AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > In the handbook listing the Mailing lists (C.1), it doesn't list a > large number of lists, such as the amd64 list which is hoppefully > going to be Tier 1 for 5.2-R, but the ppc list IS listed. Corrected now. Thanks. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 15:10:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3A437B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC54A43F93; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dds@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dds@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5KMABUp068940; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dds@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dds@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5KMABZw068936; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:10:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Diomidis Spinellis Message-Id: <200306202210.h5KMABZw068936@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dds@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dds@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/51480: Multiple undefined references in the FreeBSD manual pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:10:12 -0000 Synopsis: Multiple undefined references in the FreeBSD manual pages Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dds@FreeBSD.org Responsible-Changed-By: dds Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jun 20 15:09:49 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assignment to responsible party. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=51480 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 15:41:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C9137B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC93E43F3F for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:41:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from ms-1 (ms-dienst.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.132]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HGS006IFXPS95@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:41:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.1]) by ms-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:41:52 +0200 (MEST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (postfix@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) h5KMfqNY016801; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:41:52 +0200 (MEST) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCDC29; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:41:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 527F64738; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:41:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:41:50 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: <20030620195002.GC84128@submonkey.net> To: Ceri Davies , doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <20030620224150.GN7465@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: <20030615162228.GU4002@unixpages.org> <20030620195002.GC84128@submonkey.net> Subject: Re: ffsinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:41:56 -0000 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 08:50:02PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 06:22:29PM +0200, Christian Brueffer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > ffsinfo(8) was removed from the build (in -CURRENT) because of lacking > > ufs2 support. It is however still referenced in a couple of system > > manpages, e.g. tunefs.8. > > I think these referenced should be removed from now, since we don't know > > when (if) ffsinfo will be reconnected to the build. > > I know you already did this, but be prepared to put it all back. > Lucas Ertl has only gone and fixed it! See PR bin/53517. > Yes, I've asked chm@freebsd.org to review a patch for the grwofs manpage. He said they're working on providing ufs2 support for ffsinfo, and it'll be available soon. You might ignore me though, I'm drunk :-) - Christian -- Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 22:40:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2C437B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCA543FAF for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5L5eHUp008953 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5L5eHDk008952; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306210540.h5L5eHDk008952@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Douglas Denault Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E9B37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lighthouse.safeport.com (lighthouse.safeport.com [204.156.12.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083E843FE0 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:38:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doug@lighthouse.safeport.com) Received: from lighthouse.safeport.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5L5c9bE002705 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:38:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@lighthouse.safeport.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by lighthouse.safeport.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5L5c8kD002704; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200306210538.h5L5c8kD002704@lighthouse.safeport.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:38:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Douglas Denault To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/53575: Change to Handbook Section 20.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Douglas Denault List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:40:19 -0000 >Number: 53575 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Change to Handbook Section 20.9 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 20 22:40:17 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Douglas Denault >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD lighthouse.safeport.com 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #0: Tue Jun 3 17:30:51 EDT 2003 doug@pemaquid.safeport.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LIGHTHOUSE i386 >Description: The Handbook section 20.9, SMTP Authentication needs a small change. Sendmail 8.12.9 documentation for confDEF_AUTH_INFO says in part: Notice: this option is deprecated and will be removed in future versions; it doesn't work for the MSP since it can't read the file. Use the authinfo ruleset instead. See also the section SMTP AUTHENTICATION. So the section in the handbook that says: Add these lines to it: dnl set SASL options TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl define(`confDEF_AUTH_INFO', `/etc/mail/auth-info')dnl should be changed to: FEATURE(authinfo, `hash -o /etc/mail/authinfo')dnl then add a line something like: AuthInfo: domain.tld "U:user" "P:password" "M:PLAIN then makemap hash authinfo < authinfo >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: Change the one line. It would be helpful to describe the format of the authinfo entries >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 05:33:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A046737B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038EB43FBF for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from isdm.h.meyer@t-online.de) Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19ThZ0-0007LT-0B; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:33:50 +0200 Received: from 217.88.56.41 (EY04n8ZDYe9cmMv8Ea1kB0WFtPmFMo-6GOGPz7jmVaJ0REVLiVB4QQ@[217.88.56.41]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19ThYw-2JmeWm0; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:33:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: isdm.h.meyer@t-online.de (Heinrich Meyer) To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 4.111 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 21 Jun 2003 12:33 GMT Message-ID: <19ThYw-2JmeWm0@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: EY04n8ZDYe9cmMv8Ea1kB0WFtPmFMo-6GOGPz7jmVaJ0REVLiVB4QQ@t-dialin.net Subject: Document not found - =?iso-8859-1?q?http=3A//www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/de/doc/de=86DE?= =?iso-8859-1?q?UISO8859T1/books/handbook/indexUhtml?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: 320053729963-0001@T-Online.de List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 12:33:54 -0000 http://wwwUfreebsdUorg/de/availabilityUhtml From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 08:11:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2241C37B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from theta.jumpserver.net (theta.jumpserver.net [63.171.22.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713CF43F75 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fortuna@efortuna.net) Received: from cct159.konnect.net ([202.239.139.159] helo=cn2) by theta.jumpserver.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19Tk1W-0007sA-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:11:27 -0500 Message-ID: <001501c33810$342814a0$6701a8c0@cn2> From: "Fortuna" To: Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:14:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - theta.jumpserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - efortuna.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Floppy Mounting Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:11:09 -0000 Support, I am currently having a floppy disk drive problem. I have searched all = over the Internet for a solution to my problem and I have not found an = answer. You are my last resort. =20 For a long time I always mounted the floppy drive by typing, "mount = /dev/fd0 /floppy," and it worked fine. Then one day I rebooted the = system without unmounting 'fd0,' and now I cannot access it. =20 I have tried different command combinations and nothing works. =20 I keep on getting the following error: mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured Later after researching my problem, I found out that I could have used = 'mtools' all along. When I tried using 'mtools,' to access the 'fd0' I = get the following error: plain_io: Device not configured init A: could not read boot sector cannot initialize 'A:' Do you have any suggestions. I would really appreciate it if you can = help out. Fortuna From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 13:09:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCF137B401; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thalia.otenet.gr (thalia.otenet.gr [195.170.0.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3B343FB1; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a224.otenet.gr [212.205.215.224]) by thalia.otenet.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5LK93Bk028531; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:09:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5LK92vo001315; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:09:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5LK92m3001314; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:09:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:09:02 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Cejka Rudolf , Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030621200902.GA1259@gothmog.gr> References: <200306181022.h5IAMJ7F056964@kazi.fit.vutbr.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200306181022.h5IAMJ7F056964@kazi.fit.vutbr.cz> cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Malaysia/www.MyBSD.org.my is twice since support.sgml:1.288 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:09:13 -0000 On 2003-06-18 12:22, Cejka Rudolf wrote: > Since www/en/support.sgml:1.288 commit, there are two Malaysia > www.MyBSD.org.my records, furthermore the second with extra "/" > after Malysia word. Why? www.MyBSD.org.my is once MyBSD Malaysia > Project, once BSD Malaysia - which is the correct info? Good catch. The errors you spotted are my fault. I didn't send the proper diff to Tom who committed the change. The following patch will fix it and also add a missing "2" after "Malaysia/". The MyBSD pages aren't accessible for a while now and I can't resolve www.freebsd.org.my today :-( If this site is down for good, then 1.288 should probably be reversed. If this is a temporary failure we should commit the following to fix things: <<<<<<< Index: en/support.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/support.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.292 diff -u -r1.292 support.sgml --- en/support.sgml 19 Jun 2003 16:50:57 -0000 1.292 +++ en/support.sgml 21 Jun 2003 20:02:43 -0000 @@ -902,8 +902,8 @@

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  • Malaysia/ - The BSD Malaysia web pages aim +
  • Malaysia/2 + The BSD Malaysia web pages aim to be a central site for users of *BSD UNIX variants (including FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD). BSD support forums, technical BSD-related articles, and recent news items are published online. >>>>>>> From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 13:10:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC62937B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060D943F85 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5LKAKUp095273 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5LKAKYA095272; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200306212010.h5LKAKYA095272@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F3537B404 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.ipinc.net (news.ipinc.net [206.29.168.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E3443FA3 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:05:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@news.ipinc.net) Received: from news.ipinc.net (localhost.ipinc.net [127.0.0.1]) by news.ipinc.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5LK3ZxT000145 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@news.ipinc.net) Received: (from tedm@localhost) by news.ipinc.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h5J9ltFB015343; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306190947.h5J9ltFB015343@news.ipinc.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:47:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Mittelstaedt To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/53596: Updates to mt manual page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ted Mittelstaedt List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:10:24 -0000 >Number: 53596 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Updates to mt manual page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 21 13:10:20 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ted Mittelstaedt >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Internet Partners Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD news.ipinc.net 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Thu May 1 15:02:01 PDT 2003 root@news.ipinc.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWS i386 >Description: updates to the mt manual page There are 2 things in this pr. First, is that in the existing mt man page in the list of density codes, note #3 at the bottom that refers to " 3. Old format known as QIC-11." is not mentioned above. It needs to be on this line: 0x05 6.3 (0.25) 4/9 315 (8,000) GCR C X3.136-1986 1 in the notes column. The second thing is I made up this tape cartridges table that I would like to see added to the "mt page" it is here: NOTE ON QIC STREAMERS The following is a table of Data Cartridge types as used in the 1/4 inch tape drives such as the Archive Viper 150, Wangtek 5525ES, and Tandberg TDC4220 tape drives: Density Code Reference Format Cartridge Type Capacity Tracks Length ------------ --------- ------ -------------- -------- ------ --------- 0x05 QIC-11 DC300 15MB 4 300ft 0x05 QIC-11 DC300XL/P 20MB 4 450ft 0x05 QIC-11 DC600 27MB 4 600ft 0x05 X3.136-1986 QIC-24 DC615A 15MB 9 150ft 0x05 X3.136-1986 QIC-24 DC300XL/P 45MB 9 450ft 0x05 X3.136-1986 QIC-24 DC600A 60MB 9 600ft 0x0F QIC-120 QIC-120 DC600A/DC6150 120MB 15 620ft 0x10 QIC-150 QIC-150 DC600XTD/DC6150 150MB 18 620ft 0x10 QIC-150 QIC-150 DC6250 250MB 18 1,020ft 0x11 QIC-320 QIC-525 DC6320 320MB 26 620ft 0x11 QIC-320 QIC-525 DC6525 525MB 26 1,020ft 0x1E QIC-1000C QIC-1000 DC9100/DL9135 1.0GB 30 760ft 0x1E QIC-1000C QIC-1000 DC9150 1.2GB 30 950ft 0x22 QIC-2GB(C) QIC-2GB DC9200 2.0GB 42 950ft 0x22 QIC-2GB(C) QIC-2GB DC9250 2.5GB 42 1,200ft Notes: QIC-24, QIC-120, QIC-150 use fixed blocksize of 512 bytes, QIC-525, QIC-1000 and QIC-2GB can use blocksize of 1,024 bytes. DDS (DAT) drives generally use variable blocks. QIC-02 and QIC-36 are interface standards for tape drives. The QIC-02 and QIC-36 streamers such as the Wangtek 5250EQ are otherwise identical to their SCSI versions (ie: Wangtek 5250ES). It seems that the 150MB and larger streamers cannot write QIC-24 9 track formats, only read them. DC600A cartridges marked "10,000ftpi" can only be used as QIC-11, QIC-24, and QIC-120 format. DC600A cartridges marked 12,500ftpi can be used as both QIC-120 and QIC-150 format Some manufacturers don't use "DC" on their cartridges. Verbatim uses DL, Maxell uses MC, Sony uses QD, Quill uses DQ. 3M/Imation & Fuji use DC. Thus a DL6250, MC-6250, QD6250, DQ6250 are all identical media to a DC6250. QIC tape media is not "connected" to the take up reels and will de-spool if the tape drive has dust covering the light sensor that looks for the end of tape holes in the media. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 14:08:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CAD37B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3602943F3F for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D8266BE5; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E1EBF796; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:08:06 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Stephen Hilton Message-ID: <20030621210806.GA82759@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <3EF42307.90702@onego.ru> <1056173138.95199.0.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20030621123148.GA74582@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030621102342.3db83654.nospam@hiltonbsd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030621102342.3db83654.nospam@hiltonbsd.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Documenting problems with incorrect cvsup use (Re: Can't build gimp port) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:08:08 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:23:42AM -0500, Stephen Hilton wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:31:48 -0700 > Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 01:25:38AM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > >=20 > > > > I do not know what file to patch. May be you can tell me? > > > > And this does not depend on FreeBSD version. I tried to install thi= s=20 > > > > port on 4.8 and 5.1 and got the same result. > > >=20 > > > Remove /usr/ports/graphics/gimp1, then re-cvsup your ports tree. Aft= er > > > that, you should be set. > >=20 > > This is most likely because you installed the ports collection using > > sysinstall, and then updated it using cvsup without first "adopting" > > the existing sources as explained in the cvsup FAQ on > > http://www.polstra.com - failing to do so can leave behind orphaned > > files that have been removed from the ports collection. See Q12 and > > Q13 for more information. >=20 >=20 > Kris, >=20 > I was wondering why the cvsupchk Python script is not mentioned=20 > more in regards to a munged up src or ports tree ?=20 Not sure, but that seems like good advice. This should all be written up in the FreeBSD handbook instead of the external cvsup faq. Any takers? 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