From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 11:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC1737B401 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (mail2.secnetix.de [195.143.231.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B559D43F93 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (gpkdap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7AIo4gC032817; Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:50:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h7AIo3K5032816; Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:50:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200308101850.h7AIo3K5032816@lurza.secnetix.de> To: jonny@jonny.eng.br (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Carlos_Mendes_Lu=EDs?=) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:50:03 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <3F35C87A.4050004@jonny.eng.br> from "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Carlos_Mendes_Lu=EDs?=" at Aug 10, 2003 01:22:18 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Requirements Final Draft Attempt #2 :-/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:50:11 -0000 João Carlos Mendes Luís wrote: > - After discovering some "content directory", verify it's contents to > see if it's true. This is a little intrusive, but could be done by > verifying the presence and size of some file, for example. I was considering that, too. But it would increase the time of the collector run by an order of magnitude. Currently, it sends two LIST commands (for releases and for packages), then it proceeds sending LIST commands for every architecture it found, as well as for every ISO-IMAGES sub- directory. The last collector run took 3 hours 40 minutes (148 mirror hosts). If the collector was to check every directory it found, it would have to issue at least another LIST command for every release and every architecture on every host. The last collector run found 6755 directories (that's the number of lines in the log file). On average, a LIST command takes 2 - 3 seconds. For some hosts it takes considerably longer, depending on reachability and load of that server. To some countries, the RTTs from here are not very good. > - If a problem is found, send an email to the CC.freebsd.br hostmaster, > and to postmaster@ftpX.CC.freebsd.org. To be honest, I don't like the idea to spam people by using automated scripts. > The discussion about ftp holes and links reminded me about other > possible problem: Some ftp DNS names may point to multiple IP Addresses If that's done on purpose, then the responsible admins must make sure that all hosts under the same IP _must_ have the same content. Otherwise I would call it broken. > (I've seen this already, but do not know if it's valid), It's valid and called "DNS round-robin". It's a very simple way to provide load balancing among a set of hosts, but it has some limitations. Especially Windows boxes don't work very well with it. It's always preferable to use a "real" round-robin setup if possible, e.g. using L7 switches or a balancing proxy. > and some > multiple DNS names could point to the same IP (ftp3.de and ftp6.de > example). Right. The collector could be optimized to recognize that, so it doesn't check the same host twice. I'll try to implement that when I have a few more minutes of time ... However, I think it should list them twice, as if it were separate hosts. After all, from a user's perspective, they are different hosts (which happen to have the same content). Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 23:55:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F3C37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BE843F75 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:54:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from jonny.eng.br (RJ251027.user.veloxzone.com.br [200.149.251.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B8557D850; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:54:52 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <3F373DD1.3000609@jonny.eng.br> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:55:13 -0300 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jo=E3o_Carlos_Mendes_Lu=EDs?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: pt-br, en-us, en, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme References: <200308101850.h7AIo3K5032816@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200308101850.h7AIo3K5032816@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Requirements Final Draft Attempt #2 :-/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 06:55:01 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > João Carlos Mendes Luís wrote: > > - After discovering some "content directory", verify it's contents to > > see if it's true. This is a little intrusive, but could be done by > > verifying the presence and size of some file, for example. > > I was considering that, too. But it would increase the time > of the collector run by an order of magnitude. > > Currently, it sends two LIST commands (for releases and for > packages), then it proceeds sending LIST commands for every > architecture it found, as well as for every ISO-IMAGES sub- > directory. The last collector run took 3 hours 40 minutes > (148 mirror hosts). > > If the collector was to check every directory it found, it > would have to issue at least another LIST command for every > release and every architecture on every host. The last And have some hardcoded or file table to compare names and sizes. > collector run found 6755 directories (that's the number of > lines in the log file). On average, a LIST command takes > 2 - 3 seconds. For some hosts it takes considerably longer, > depending on reachability and load of that server. To some > countries, the RTTs from here are not very good. I do not program python, so please forgive me if this is stupid: Isn't it possible to thread the requests per IP? > > - If a problem is found, send an email to the CC.freebsd.br hostmaster, > > and to postmaster@ftpX.CC.freebsd.org. > > To be honest, I don't like the idea to spam people by using > automated scripts. This is already done by the ports system. Every port which cannot compile or fetched generates a message to it's maintainer, once a month, I think. I have already received some, and gladly consider this not as spam, but part of my FreeBSD colaboration responsibility duties. > > The discussion about ftp holes and links reminded me about other > > possible problem: Some ftp DNS names may point to multiple IP Addresses > > If that's done on purpose, then the responsible admins must > make sure that all hosts under the same IP _must_ have the > same content. Otherwise I would call it broken. > > > (I've seen this already, but do not know if it's valid), > > It's valid and called "DNS round-robin". It's a very simple > way to provide load balancing among a set of hosts, but it > has some limitations. Especially Windows boxes don't work > very well with it. It's always preferable to use a "real" > round-robin setup if possible, e.g. using L7 switches or a > balancing proxy. Well, maybe you program is also the exact point to check for this problem, warn for multiple IPs, and error for multiple IPs with different contents. > > and some > > multiple DNS names could point to the same IP (ftp3.de and ftp6.de > > example). > > Right. The collector could be optimized to recognize that, > so it doesn't check the same host twice. I'll try to > implement that when I have a few more minutes of time ... > > However, I think it should list them twice, as if it were > separate hosts. After all, from a user's perspective, they > are different hosts (which happen to have the same content). List them as aliases to the first host you found, so users can know they are valid, but not not waste time trying sites they have already gone. Let me remember you that my first suggestion was to leave a copy of this information in each site, to help sysinstall decide where could it get the needed files. Just my €0,02, Jonny -- João Carlos Mendes Luís - Networking Engineer - jonny@jonny.eng.br -- "the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do." -- Samuel P. Huntington From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 00:38:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5406837B401 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.be.oleane.fr (zeus.be.oleane.fr [62.161.136.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C86C43FB1 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jch@zeus.be.oleane.fr) Received: from zeus.be.oleane.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.be.oleane.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7B7bUEJ084364 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:37:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jch@zeus.be.oleane.fr) Received: (from jch@localhost) by zeus.be.oleane.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7B7bUtH084363 for hubs@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:37:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:37:29 +0200 From: Jean-Claude Christophe To: hubs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030811073729.GC49515@oleane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: FreeBSD FTP mirror update X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:38:10 -0000 Hi, ftp5.fr.freebsd.org (alias polux.bsdfr.org) got a new IP: 194.117.194.69 Can you update the ACL for rsync access ? @ERROR: access denied to FreeBSD from polux.bsdfr.org (194.117.194.69) thanks. Regards, -- Jean-Claude Christophe / jch@oleane.net From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 00:44:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5D737B401 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EDF43FAF for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0C6284020; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:44:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C2F284018; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:44:50 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31561E4620; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:44:49 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:44:49 +0900 Message-ID: <7moeyw4ozy.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Jean-Claude Christophe In-Reply-To: <20030811073729.GC49515@oleane.net> References: <20030811073729.GC49515@oleane.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.2 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.5 - "Awara-Onsen") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD FTP mirror update X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:44:53 -0000 At Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:37:29 +0200, Jean-Claude Christophe wrote: > ftp5.fr.freebsd.org (alias polux.bsdfr.org) got a new IP: > 194.117.194.69 > > Can you update the ACL for rsync access ? Do you know what hostname you submitted for ACL before? # I cannot find polux.bsdfr.org entry in current ACL... -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 01:35:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BF137B401 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.be.oleane.fr (zeus.be.oleane.fr [62.161.136.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBC343F3F for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jch@zeus.be.oleane.fr) Received: from zeus.be.oleane.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.be.oleane.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7B8YYEJ084792 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:34:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jch@zeus.be.oleane.fr) Received: (from jch@localhost) by zeus.be.oleane.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7B8YYhp084791 for hubs@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:34:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:34:34 +0200 From: Jean-Claude Christophe To: hubs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030811083434.GE49515@oleane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: FreeBSD FTP mirror update X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:35:14 -0000 This was my first request: "We (BSDfr) make a FreeBSD mirror on our server from 1 year now. Our mirror is now stoped since freesoftware is no longer available. Server: ftp5.fr.freebsd.org (polux.bsdfr.org 195.154.210.137). Can someone make an update of the ACL of ftp-master ?" regards, >Jean-Claude Christophe wrote: >> ftp5.fr.freebsd.org (alias polux.bsdfr.org) got a new IP: >> 194.117.194.69 >> >> Can you update the ACL for rsync access ? > >Do you know what hostname you submitted for ACL before? > ># I cannot find polux.bsdfr.org entry in current ACL... > > >-- >Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. > // FreeBSD Project -- Jean-Claude Christophe / jch@oleane.net From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 02:18:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2EB37B404 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2726443F85 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:18:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313CE284018 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:18:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671A1284035 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:18:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211361E4622 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:18:29 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:18:29 +0900 Message-ID: <7mn0eg4knu.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: hubs@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030811083434.GE49515@oleane.net> References: <20030811083434.GE49515@oleane.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.2 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.5 - "Awara-Onsen") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 Subject: Re: FreeBSD FTP mirror update X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:18:34 -0000 At Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:34:34 +0200, Jean-Claude Christophe wrote: > "We (BSDfr) make a FreeBSD mirror on our server from 1 year now. > Our mirror is now stoped since freesoftware is no longer available. > Server: ftp5.fr.freebsd.org (polux.bsdfr.org 195.154.210.137). > Can someone make an update of the ACL of ftp-master ?" Okay, I updated ACL on ftp-master.FreeBSD.org. ftp-master.cz.FreeBSD.org would be handled by another admin... -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 05:33:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9B837B401 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (kazi.fit.vutbr.cz [147.229.8.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D9843F75 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:33:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7BCXsbW001218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (8.12.9/8.12.5/Submit) id h7BCXs79001217; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:33:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: kazi.fit.vutbr.cz: cejkar set sender to cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz using -f Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:33:54 +0200 From: Rudolf Cejka To: Jean-Claude Christophe Message-ID: <20030811123353.GA419@fit.vutbr.cz> References: <20030811083434.GE49515@oleane.net> <7mn0eg4knu.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7mn0eg4knu.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD FTP mirror update X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:33:58 -0000 Jun Kuriyama wrote (2003/08/11): > Jean-Claude Christophe wrote: > > "We (BSDfr) make a FreeBSD mirror on our server from 1 year now. > > Our mirror is now stoped since freesoftware is no longer available. > > Server: ftp5.fr.freebsd.org (polux.bsdfr.org 195.154.210.137). > > Can someone make an update of the ACL of ftp-master ?" > > Okay, I updated ACL on ftp-master.FreeBSD.org. > ftp-master.cz.FreeBSD.org would be handled by another admin... Hello, changed on ftp-master.cz too. -- Rudolf Cejka http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/~cejkar Brno University of Technology, Faculty of Information Technology Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 06:25:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A3237B401 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 06:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E0C43FAF for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 06:25:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h7BDOvj18368; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:24:57 -0300 Message-ID: <3F379928.7050701@tcoip.com.br> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:24:56 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030702 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Carlos_Mendes_Lu=EDs?= References: <200308082326.h78NQsuu065234@lurza.secnetix.de> <3F35C87A.4050004@jonny.eng.br> In-Reply-To: <3F35C87A.4050004@jonny.eng.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org cc: Oliver Fromme cc: Ken Smith cc: Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: Requirements Final Draft Attempt #2 :-/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:25:13 -0000 Jo=E3o Carlos Mendes Lu=EDs wrote: >=20 > The discussion about ftp holes and links reminded me about other=20 > possible problem: Some ftp DNS names may point to multiple IP Addresses= =20 > (I've seen this already, but do not know if it's valid), and some=20 > multiple DNS names could point to the same IP (ftp3.de and ftp6.de=20 > example). Your program is surely the best place to check for this, and= =20 > probably list same IPs only once. It was done this way in .br.freebsd.org to increase reliability of the=20 sites. It seems mirrors here disappear as fast as they appear. :-) I must say I prefer the idea of duplicating IPs to deal with this problem= =2E Alas, it doesn't look like this is still done for ftp (though it's still = done for www and cvsup). --=20 Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca VIVO Centro Oeste Norte Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br Outros: dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net A talented girl from Detroit Could fuck you in ways quite adroit. She could squeeze her vagina To a pin-point or finer Or open it out like a quoit. From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 02:22:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDE537B401 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBD643FAF for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7G9MTUp096006 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7G9MTsi096005 for hubs@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:22:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <200308160922.h7G9MTsi096005@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: SUPRISE!!! ftp-master going down soon X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 09:22:30 -0000 We're going to try and do a hardware upgrade on it tonight. If all goes well, it'll be down for only a few hours. So, if your mirror/cvsup/etc runs fail, dont worry. That is expected. -Peter