From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 11 14:16:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE8937B401; Sun, 11 May 2003 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0402843FAF; Sun, 11 May 2003 14:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from mail pickup service by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 May 2003 17:27:57 +0100 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 8 May 2003 22:53:31 +0100 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209FC57889; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDFD37B408; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45C937B401; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9267A43F93; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (heho.snv.jussieu.fr [134.157.184.22]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id h48Lqnru066974 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from heho.snv.jussieu.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h48Lqnqx005914 ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from arno@localhost) by heho.snv.jussieu.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h48LqnOf005911; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 (MEST) To: Peter Gade Jensen References: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> From: arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr Date: 08 May 2003 23:52:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20030508213911.GA8706@horse09.daimi.au.dk> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mmake / maake (Toshiba Satelite 6000 X11 keyboard weirdness) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 21:16:05 -0000 Peter, > On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:02:33PM +0200, arno@heho.snv.jussieu.fr wrote: > > I rrun -curreent on a Toshiba sattellite Pro 6000 for over > > a month with no particular problem, other than a very > > irrittating "keyboard echo" when in X11 mode. > > The ever so irritating toshiba-keyboard-fuckup. > Put the following in a file, chmod +x it and load it from ~/.xinitrc > when you start X. You need to install xkbset though. > > if [ -x /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbset ]; then > xkbset m > xkbset exp =m > xkbset sl 5 > xkbset exp =sl > xkbset -f slowaccept > xkbset exp =f =slowaccept > fi yes! Thanx a lot (I should have asked much earlier ^_^) Arno _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 11 21:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9056137B401 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 21:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mozart.lib.uchicago.edu (mozart.lib.uchicago.edu [128.135.53.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7993243FBF for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 21:45:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mozart@lib.uchicago.edu) Received: from mozart.lib.uchicago.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h4C4jcho087384 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 23:45:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mozart@lib.uchicago.edu) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 23:45:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peggy Wilkins To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.8.1 (Something) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.4 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kashiharajing=FE-mae?=) APEL/10.4 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) Organization: University of Chicago Library X-Face: )C,7auub1,qHwu.Spk;Y6'8pld<:g8_\/=Zo/=E3y5*[m?C;;5Wc'B9=V+I:v 7>8Y=yx{[yy0$Zu@q+d&+$`jV{"Gk"Q0A#d]btd#$qjAR),qXF+GuE#?9Q4_xai{V&". MJluE"^Oj41R'ypsHcp2_`6kxl;T7?5eW57j#Muert'z`Y Y03pPAp3uY@x9DhN?yWwH.!jV MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: PC Card broken w/ FreeBSD-4.8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 04:45:40 -0000 I had been happily running FreeBSD-4.6 on my IBM Thinkpad R31 since last July when I decided to install 4.8. I had been using an Orinoco Gold wireless card under 4.6, and now not only won't this card work under 4.8, I can't get any PCMCIA cards to work! I've tested four different cards I borrowed from a co-worker, and I see the same behavior no matter what card I test in the slot. Whether or not I have any card installed in a slot, these messages are logged every few minutes: May 11 23:07:31 playboy /kernel: pccard: card inserted, slot 0 May 11 23:07:42 playboy /kernel: pccard: card removed, slot 0 May 11 23:08:25 playboy /kernel: pcic0: Card type unrecognized by bridge is unsupported May 11 23:08:31 playboy last message repeated 3 times May 11 23:15:06 playboy /kernel: pcic0: Card type none (can't happen) is unsupported May 11 23:18:16 playboy /kernel: pcic0: Card type none (can't happen) is unsupported May 11 23:21:38 playboy /kernel: pcic0: Card type none (can't happen) is unsupported These messages were logged with nothing at all installed in the pccard slots. In fact, pccardd wasn't even running. The same messages are logged whether or not it is running. I also see this message repeatedly logged: May 11 13:00:38 playboy /kernel: pcic0: Card type 32-bit cardbus is unsupported (Note that my card is not cardbus, it is a 16-bit PC Card. I confirmed this by looking at the printed stats on the card.) I have tried to investigate with a card installed in one slot. I used the pccardc command to give power to the card, then asked for it to dump its CIS. Here is the result of that: playboy% pccardc dumpcis 0 Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 1 slots found This looks to me like it is finding no data. I have tried both the GENERIC kernel and the custom kernel I compiled for my laptop. I didn't see any unusual or new pccard options in GENERIC or in LINT. It seems to me that PC Card functionality is now broken. Can anyone confirm this? Do I have any option but to reinstall FreeBSD-4.6 to get it back? If this is a bug, how/where do I report it? I'm happy to send along any helpful config files or log messages from my laptop. Thanks very much for any help. __ Peggy Wilkins mozart@lib.uchicago.edu Sr. System Administrator sysadmin@lib.uchicago.edu Digital Library Development Center The University of Chicago Library From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 07:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A5337B401 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 07:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PIKES.panasas.com (gw2.panasas.com [65.194.124.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE39A43FA3 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 07:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from 172.17.3.211 by PIKES.panasas.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 2AZLPG5M; Mon, 12 May 2003 10:35:47 -0400 From: Chris BeHanna Organization: Western Pennsylvania Pizza Disposal Unit To: mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:40:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305121040.34199.behanna@zbzoom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PC Card broken w/ FreeBSD-4.8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:35:50 -0000 On Monday 12 May 2003 12:45 am, Peggy Wilkins wrote: > I had been happily running FreeBSD-4.6 on my IBM Thinkpad R31 since > last July when I decided to install 4.8. I had been using an Orinoco > Gold wireless card under 4.6, and now not only won't this card work > under 4.8, I can't get any PCMCIA cards to work! PCMCIA cards work fine here: behanna@browning> uname -a FreeBSD browning.pennasoft.com 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #0: Fri Mar 21 23:20:57 EST 2003 behanna@topperwein.pennasoft.com:/raid0/stable/usr/obj/raid0/stable/usr/src/sys/BROWNING i386 -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net Turning coffee into software since 1990. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 11:21:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B21A37B401 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1285643FB1 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FHtc-0007do-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 20:19:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FHtW-0007d2-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 20:19:26 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:21:00 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> <20030505.232510.38348766.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:21:38 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> > "Kevin Oberman" writes: > I *LOVE* the 1600x1200 resolution. However, I gotta get new batteries > because in the last 20 months I've nearly worn out the ones I have... > I also agree with the weight issues. My next laptop likely will be > something like the Libretto L3 I think high res flat screens must be easier to read than CRTs. 1600x1200 was always blury on my CRTs. But I just don't see that happening with a flat screen. They're always crisp and clear, in my experience anyway. Well, I finally decided on a laptop. I purchased an IBM A30p on ebay over the weekend for $1,350, including insured shipping. Specs? ------ 15" 1600x1200 screen (the key factor for me. Lotsa code on screen.) 802.11b (FreeBSD support unknown at this point, but has a better chance of being support than an 802.11b/g card) CD-RW/DVD (but I think I'll probably be able to upgrade to a DVD-RW when IBM starts shipping them) 42Gb HD 1.2Ghz PIII -M Exact memory config unknown, but I plan to upgrade to at least 384M if it ends up having only 128M. 32M ATI Radeon graphics accel w/AGP 4x (supported well by XFree86) ------ Should be fine for what I do, and I should be able to play Half-Life at a decent res under windows with that amount of video memory, so I'm pretty darn happy. I could have gotten a much faster/beefier Sony VAIO for only $800 more, but from what I've heard from everyone here, the IBM seems to be a much more sound investment. I really hated the Sony's keyboard when I played with it at Bestbuy anyway. And I like the price of this system better. What can I say? I'm cheap. :) I think I got a pretty good deal though. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 21:11:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551B237B401 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 21:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E1743F93 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 21:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with SMTP id <2003051304111300200h9dnse>; Tue, 13 May 2003 04:11:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: "Jesse D. Guardiani" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030512211036.U25085@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> <20030505.232510.38348766.imp@bsdimp.com> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 04:11:15 -0000 When you get your new machine, make sure to visit http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ and let everyone know how it goes. Good luck, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 00:48:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E1837B401 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 00:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p3.saignon.net (66-146-166-52.skyriver.net [66.146.166.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487E043FB1 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 00:48:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) Received: (qmail 55548 invoked by uid 89); 13 May 2003 07:40:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frankenmobl) (tony@saign.com@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 May 2003 07:40:12 -0000 From: "Tony Saign" To: "'M. Warner Losh'" Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 00:48:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c31924$183b4380$1402a8c0@frankenmobl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20030510.231540.48530531.imp@bsdimp.com> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD and Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 07:48:58 -0000 I'll try a few this week to verify for you, and let you know the results. I've never had good luck with the 2011 pccards and "wi", so I figured why bother. I was using a prism based miniPCI for quite some time, but it died a few weeks ago :( I currently have a 2100, in my T23, but haven't loaded up FreeBSD on it in a while. Will the driver recognize the card without hacking it? -Tony -----Original Message----- From: M. Warner Losh [mailto:imp@bsdimp.com] Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 10:16 PM To: tony@saign.com Cc: vev@michvhf.com; freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Centrino In message: <000001c31637$e01809f0$1e01a8c0@burned> "Tony Saign" writes: : The Intel 2100 miniPCI card is a symbol based chipset. : Swapping miniPCI cards would be the cheapest quickest resolution. : Intel has no plans to offer a driver for these currently. The wi driver supports the symbol cards. I've had some good reports of wi working with Centrino. Is this in error? Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 06:30:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F2D37B401 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D762D43F85 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FZpG-0006Tf-00 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:28:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FZnl-0006Mp-00 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:26:41 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 09:28:17 -0400 Organization: WingNET Internet Services Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> <20030505.232510.38348766.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030512211036.U25085@znfgre.qbhto.arg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 13:30:41 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > When you get your new machine, make sure to visit > http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ and let everyone know how it > goes. I'll be happy to. However, I can think of a few things right off hand that would make that page much more user friendly: 1.) Search capability 2.) Ability to group by level of workingness, or possibly by area of workingness. For example, it would be interesting to pull up all laptops with 1600x1200 displays, then filter out the ones with bad APM support. I know it's easier to say than do, but I think it would make that page a lot easier to extract useful information from. > > Good luck, > > Doug > -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 06:36:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A100337B401 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mailbox.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8704743F3F for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from l.ertl@univie.ac.at) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (adslle.cc.univie.ac.at [131.130.102.11]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4DDaiNm172858; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:36:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 15:36:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Lukas Ertl To: "Jesse D. Guardiani" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030513153605.H612@korben.in.tern> References: <20030505233428.DC5565D04@ptavv.es.net> <20030505.232510.38348766.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030512211036.U25085@znfgre.qbhto.arg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-DCC-ZID-Univie-Metrics: mx1 4261; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ideal laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 13:36:55 -0000 On Tue, 13 May 2003, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: > > > When you get your new machine, make sure to visit > > http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ and let everyone know how it > > goes. > > I'll be happy to. However, I can think of a few things right > off hand that would make that page much more user friendly: > > 1.) Search capability > 2.) Ability to group by level of workingness, or possibly > by area of workingness. For example, it would be > interesting to pull up all laptops with 1600x1200 > displays, then filter out the ones with bad APM support. > > I know it's easier to say than do, but I think it would make > that page a lot easier to extract useful information from. If I ever find the time I'll add a filter to pick from. regards, le --=20 Lukas Ertl eMail: l.ertl@univie.ac.at UNIX-Systemadministrator Tel.: (+43 1) 4277-14073 Zentraler Informatikdienst (ZID) Fax.: (+43 1) 4277-9140 der Universit=E4t Wien http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 09:07:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C3737B40B for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 09:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrea.pop4.net (216-234-109-11.ded.det2.hexcom.net [216.234.109.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4DC343F93 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 09:07:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 31530 invoked by uid 1008); 13 May 2003 16:07:11 -0000 Received: from vev@michvhf.com by www.pop4.net with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4156. . Clean. Processed in 1.093944 secs); 13 May 2003 16:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO paprika.michvhf.com) (67.36.71.182) by 0 with SMTP; 13 May 2003 16:07:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16106 invoked by uid 1001); 13 May 2003 16:07:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:07:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: pcmcia and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:07:10 -0000 Has anyone ever tried to get a USB PCCard adapter to work with 4.x ? Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 21:39:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DA837B408 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 21:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.safety.net (ns3.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D28843F3F for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 21:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cbiffle@safety.net) Received: from localhost (rs.rackshack.net.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by ns3.safety.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h4E4dkA04075; Tue, 13 May 2003 21:39:46 -0700 From: "Cliff L. Biffle" To: Vince Vielhaber , mobile@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 21:40:16 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305132140.16742.cbiffle@safety.net> Subject: Re: pcmcia and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 04:39:48 -0000 On Tuesday 13 May 2003 09:07 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > Has anyone ever tried to get a USB PCCard adapter to work with 4.x ? I've never found a PCMCIA USB controller that wasn't Cardbus. (I have several non-Cardbus laptops and one PDA that would just love to have USB.) Unless I missed a recent MFC, Cardbus support arrives with the 5.0 branch. -Cliff L. Biffle From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 03:04:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8CA37B401 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 03:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrea.pop4.net (216-234-109-11.ded.det2.hexcom.net [216.234.109.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DD8B43FAF for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 03:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 50916 invoked by uid 1008); 14 May 2003 10:04:47 -0000 Received: from vev@michvhf.com by www.pop4.net with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4156. . Clean. Processed in 0.786387 secs); 14 May 2003 10:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO paprika.michvhf.com) (67.36.71.182) by 0 with SMTP; 14 May 2003 10:04:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 36059 invoked by uid 1001); 14 May 2003 10:04:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 06:04:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: "Cliff L. Biffle" In-Reply-To: <200305132140.16742.cbiffle@safety.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcmcia and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:04:45 -0000 On Tue, 13 May 2003, Cliff L. Biffle wrote: > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 09:07 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > Has anyone ever tried to get a USB PCCard adapter to work with 4.x ? > > I've never found a PCMCIA USB controller that wasn't Cardbus. (I have several > non-Cardbus laptops and one PDA that would just love to have USB.) > > Unless I missed a recent MFC, Cardbus support arrives with the 5.0 branch. That's what I was afraid of. Thanks! Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 12:43:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1EF37B401 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D38443F3F for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:43:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pherman@frenchfries.net) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83])h4EJhhl29329 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Errors-To: Received: from frenchfries.net (da001d0255.lax-ca.osd.concentric.net [66.239.48.255]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch04072003) id PAA03557; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by frenchfries.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ED6AC514F; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frenchfries.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABB94CB5 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:43:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Herman X-X-Sender: pherman@mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030514123413.C42251-100000@mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: compatibility with 802.11g? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:43:49 -0000 Hi mobile people, I've had the following patch in my (-STABLE) tree for a few months now with no problems. It allows my 802.11g Airport Extreme card on my Mac to connect to my 802.11b FreeBSD box running in hostap mode. I don't know if -CURRENT can do this, but is there any reason not to put this into the -STABLE branch? -Paul. Index: wi_hostap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /u02/ncvs/src/sys/dev/wi/Attic/wi_hostap.c,v retrieving revision 1.7.2.4 diff -u -r1.7.2.4 wi_hostap.c --- wi_hostap.c 2 Aug 2002 07:11:34 -0000 1.7.2.4 +++ wi_hostap.c 7 Apr 2003 00:22:31 -0000 @@ -676,7 +676,7 @@ struct wi_80211_hdr *resp_hdr; u_int16_t capinfo; u_int16_t lstintvl; - u_int8_t rates[8]; + u_int8_t rates[32]; int ssid_len, rates_len; char ssid[33]; u_int16_t status; From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 17:13:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABD337B401 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4D443F85 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 17:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4F0COrN069399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 15 May 2003 02:13:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (cicely9.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:210:5aff:fe30:1c1a]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4F0CChx017493 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 15 May 2003 02:12:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4F0C8Rw031770; Thu, 15 May 2003 02:12:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4F0C5Cs031769; Thu, 15 May 2003 02:12:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 02:12:04 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: "Cliff L. Biffle" Message-ID: <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <200305132140.16742.cbiffle@safety.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305132140.16742.cbiffle@safety.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcmcia and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:13:08 -0000 On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:40:16PM -0700, Cliff L. Biffle wrote: > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 09:07 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > Has anyone ever tried to get a USB PCCard adapter to work with 4.x ? > > I've never found a PCMCIA USB controller that wasn't Cardbus. (I have several > non-Cardbus laptops and one PDA that would just love to have USB.) They do exist but are not supported. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 03:12:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AC437B401 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 03:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay4.mail.uk.psi.net (relay4.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.111.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D94043F93 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 03:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmlb@dmlb.org) Received: from gate.ttpcom.com ([193.119.175.2] helo=vader) by relay4.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 19GFj7-0002z5-01 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:12:41 +0100 Received: from matrix.ttpcom.com ([193.119.172.14]) by vader; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:01:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from matrix [193.119.172.14] by matrix.ttpcom.com (SMTPD32-7.07) id A91218F007A; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:16:50 +0100 Received: FROM DJK1Comp BY matrix ; Thu May 15 11:16:49 2003 +0100 Message-ID: <004b01c31aca$94b87b60$a7ac77c1@DJK1Comp> From: "Duncan Barclay" To: , Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:13:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:12:44 -0000 > From: "Duncan Barclay" > > > > I have booted 4.8 from CD successfully on my Centrino based Acer 800CLi, > > but not yet installed it. I'm going to give 5.1 a spin this evening once > > I've downloaded the ISOs. > > > > Duncan > > Well so far two problems with 5.1-BETA. Booting with one of my Raylink > wireless LAN cards plugged results in a panic during device probes (I guess > that's either the if_ray driver of mine or something strange with NEWCARD > and > these cards). With the card removed, the boot gets to mounting md0, but > hangs. > I think ACPI is the culpritt as there are lots of ACPI errors scrolling > past - although it does detect ac power insertion etc. > > Duncan This morning I set acpi_load=NO hint.acpi.0.disable=1 and tried again. This time, the boot proceeded to trying to find an init but hung. Any suggestions? I'm going try 5.0 and if that doesn't work use 4.8 to bootstrap and then build a decent debugging environment for -current. Duncan From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 15:40:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3CB37B413 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7AC43FA3 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19GRN1-00006O-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 00:38:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19GRMz-000063-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 00:38:37 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 18:40:17 -0400 Lines: 22 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: news Subject: A30p BIOS updates? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:40:25 -0000 Howdy list, I know a bunch of you have IBM Thinkpads. I just bought an A30p myself. Before I put FreeBSD on it, I have the option to download a butt-load of updates, including a BIOS update. Should I go for it? I heard the most recent BIOS update doesn't do much for ACPI support under FreeBSD... but is the BIOS version I have right now broken too? Thanks. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 15:52:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1131437B404 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5498743F75 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP id MUA74016; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:52:30 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id AC4045D04; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:52:30 -0700 (PDT) To: "Jesse D. Guardiani" In-Reply-To: Message from "Jesse D. Guardiani" of "Thu, 15 May 2003 18:40:17 EDT." Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:52:30 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030515225230.AC4045D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A30p BIOS updates? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:52:33 -0000 > From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" > Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 18:40:17 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > Howdy list, > > I know a bunch of you have IBM Thinkpads. I just bought an A30p myself. > Before I put FreeBSD on it, I have the option to download a butt-load of > updates, including a BIOS update. > > Should I go for it? I heard the most recent BIOS update doesn't do much for > ACPI support under FreeBSD... but is the BIOS version I have right now > broken too? Jesse, Yes. There are a number of problems that are fixed in more recent BIOSes from IBM, especially the APM stuff works much better with a recent BIOS. I have seen no regression with the latest BIOS, but YMMV. You probably also want to get the latest PCDoctorDOS update. It does hardware diagnostics and comes as a group of floppy images. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 16:24:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B5137B401 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B555643FAF for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 19GS5C-0000Cs-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 2003 19:24:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:24:18 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030515232418.GB14780@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030515225230.AC4045D04@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030515225230.AC4045D04@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: A30p BIOS updates? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:24:20 -0000 Kevin Oberman probably said: > Yes. There are a number of problems that are fixed in more recent BIOSes > from IBM, especially the APM stuff works much better with a recent > BIOS. I have seen no regression with the latest BIOS, but YMMV. I havn't used ACPI but APM works better with the most recent BIOS for my X30 (released a week or two ago, I think), so my experience matches yours. > You probably also want to get the latest PCDoctorDOS update. It does > hardware diagnostics and comes as a group of floppy images. Agreed. It's quite nifty. \pir -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 16:31:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EBF37B401; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmlb.org (pc2-cmbg4-6-cust36.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [81.96.76.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701F243F85; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmlb@dmlb.org) Received: from slave.my.domain ([192.168.200.39]) by dmlb.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19GSBg-000FXm-00; Fri, 16 May 2003 00:31:00 +0100 Received: from dmlb by slave.my.domain with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19GSBg-0001a1-00; Fri, 16 May 2003 00:31:00 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 00:31:00 +0100 (BST) From: Duncan Barclay To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sender: Duncan Barclay Subject: Centrino Laptop (Acer 800Cli) and 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:31:02 -0000 Hello New Acer 800Cli laptop with Centrino does not boot 5.1-BETA mini iso. With ACPI enabled hangs when mounting ufs:/md0 With ACPI turned off (load_acpi=NO, hint.acpi.0.disable=1) hangs when with the last line one the console saying it's trying /stand/sysinstall for init. The machine boot 4.8-RELEASE CDs and launch a fixit shell. I'm looking for suggestions on how to debug 5.1 to get a bit further in the boot cycle! The machine does not have a serial port, so attaching a serial console is rather difficult. One thought is to start with installing 4.8 but then setting UFS2 up would be hard. Another is PXE booting but I don't know where to start with that... Other machines at home all run 4.6. Suggestions? Thanks Duncan -- ________________________________________________________________________ Duncan Barclay | dmlb@dmlb.org | dmlb@freebsd.org| From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 18:32:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AC637B401 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2D843F3F for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4G1WWkA050593; Thu, 15 May 2003 19:32:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:32:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030515.193206.51840764.imp@bsdimp.com> To: ticso@cicely.de, ticso@cicely9.cicely.de From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <200305132140.16742.cbiffle@safety.net> <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: cbiffle@safety.net cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcmcia and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 01:32:48 -0000 In message: <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> Bernd Walter writes: : On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:40:16PM -0700, Cliff L. Biffle wrote: : > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 09:07 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: : > > Has anyone ever tried to get a USB PCCard adapter to work with 4.x ? : > : > I've never found a PCMCIA USB controller that wasn't Cardbus. (I have several : > non-Cardbus laptops and one PDA that would just love to have USB.) : : They do exist but are not supported. Really? I've never seen one... And I've been looking... Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 01:43:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD47037B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.econolodgetulsa.com (mail.econolodgetulsa.com [198.78.66.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A8843F85 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from user@mail.econolodgetulsa.com) Received: from mail (mail [198.78.66.163])h4G8hieq061480 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 01:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from user@mail.econolodgetulsa.com) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 01:43:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Brooks To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030515120913.I5537-100000@mail.econolodgetulsa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: dell inspiron 8500, vga console mode, bluetooth, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 08:43:40 -0000 Hello, I am considering purchasing a Dell Inspiron 8500 - the new wide aspect 15.4" screen model. I have three questions - two specific to this laptop, and one general question: 1. Some previous dell laptops with ati rage cards have been unable to run in VGA console mode - or the resolution choices have been severely limited. Will I run into any limitations with the " NVIDIAGeForceTM4 4200 Go with 64 MB DDR " that comes with this system ? I would really like to be able to do vga console in all sorts of modes/resolutions. 2. Any reports/comments/knowledge on the TrueMobile miniPCI 802.11b/g card ? 3. (general question) - from time to time I run across a terminal or computer where the key response is fast instead of slow. What I mean is, in FreeBSD (or any other OS for that matter) if you put the cursor at the front of a line and just hold down right-arrow, the cursor will move character by character over to the right. but, most of the time it does so slowly - maybe 1/3 second per movement ... but once in a while i get to a system or terminal that does it much much faster - movig up and down, left and right with the arrows ... and key repeat ... it is much much faster. So the question is, what determines this key response speed, and how can i set any laptop I am using to the faster speed ? thanks! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 02:20:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1DC37B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 02:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.interactivemediafactory.net (mars.interactivemediafactory.net [194.2.222.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54DB43F93 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 02:20:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jacques.Caron@IPsector.com) Received: from jc-xp.ipsector.com (dhcp13.imfeurope.net [194.2.222.206]) h4G9KJT9040166; Fri, 16 May 2003 11:20:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Jacques.Caron@IPsector.com) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030516111516.01e75910@pop.mail.yahoo.com> X-Sender: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:19:39 +0200 To: Josh Brooks From: Jacques Caron In-Reply-To: <20030515120913.I5537-100000@mail.econolodgetulsa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dell inspiron 8500, vga console mode, bluetooth, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:20:27 -0000 Hi, At 10:43 16/05/2003, Josh Brooks wrote: >2. Any reports/comments/knowledge on the TrueMobile miniPCI 802.11b/g card >? Right now, the only supported TrueMobile card is the 1150 (Orinoco OEM, 802.11b). The others use chipsets that are not yet supported, afaik. >3. (general question) - from time to time I run across a terminal or >computer where the key response is fast instead of slow. What I mean is, >in FreeBSD (or any other OS for that matter) if you put the cursor at the >front of a line and just hold down right-arrow, the cursor will move >character by character over to the right. but, most of the time it does >so slowly - maybe 1/3 second per movement ... but once in a while i get to >a system or terminal that does it much much faster - movig up and down, >left and right with the arrows ... and key repeat ... it is much much >faster. > >So the question is, what determines this key response speed, and how can i >set any laptop I am using to the faster speed ? If you're running FreeBSD directly on that machine, "kbdcontrol -r fast" (or the appropriate entry in rc.conf) is your friend. Check man kbdcontrol for more details. If you're using some terminal software under some other OS, then you should use the preferences settings of that OS (e.g. in Windows, the Keyboard control pannel). Jacques. -- Jacques Caron, IP Sector Technologies Join the discussion on public WLAN open global roaming: http://lists.ipsector.com/listinfo/openroaming From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 06:31:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787C037B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 06:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2598643F93 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 06:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4GDV8rN004324 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Fri, 16 May 2003 15:31:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4GDV6hx028794 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 May 2003 15:31:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4GDV5ne000513; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:31:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4GDV4hq000512; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:31:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:31:03 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20030516133103.GA488@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <200305132140.16742.cbiffle@safety.net> <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> <20030515.193206.51840764.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030515.193206.51840764.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-BETA alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: cbiffle@safety.net cc: ticso@cicely9.cicely.de cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcmcia and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:31:30 -0000 On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 07:32:06PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> > Bernd Walter writes: > : On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:40:16PM -0700, Cliff L. Biffle wrote: > : > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 09:07 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > : > > Has anyone ever tried to get a USB PCCard adapter to work with 4.x ? > : > > : > I've never found a PCMCIA USB controller that wasn't Cardbus. (I have several > : > non-Cardbus laptops and one PDA that would just love to have USB.) > : > : They do exist but are not supported. > > Really? I've never seen one... And I've been looking... I havn't seen them for a while. Possibly you can only get used parts now. A guess would be that they were slhci based, but I really don't know. Maybe you can get some informations by searching for slhci. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 12:39:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE9337B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 12:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43F043FA3 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 12:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Gl0V-0002kc-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 21:36:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Gl0R-0002kE-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 21:36:39 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:38:21 -0400 Lines: 31 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: news Subject: IEEE 1394 (firewire) support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:39:02 -0000 Just curious, but how good is FreeBSD's firewire support? I recently purchased a used IBM A30p on ebay which I originally thought would have a CD-RW/DVD drive (because that is what the base model A30p came with), but it ended up just having a CD/DVD reader drive. So eventually, I'd like to either buy a (currently non-existant) Ultrabay 2000 CD-RW/DVD-RW, or an external CD-RW/DVD-RW (in which case firewire would be ideal, considering I don't have a USB 2.0 port, just USB 1.0). So, I guess when it comes down to it, my questions are these: 1.) Does FreeBSD support firewire? 2.) Does FreeBSD support disk and optical drives over firewire, or does this require a special OS specific driver? Pointing me to additional reading would be fine. I just haven't been able to find any websites that talk about FreeBSD's firewire support. Thanks! -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 12:49:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D60237B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 12:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF3043F75 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 12:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (orb_rules@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4GJlxVo029057 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 21:47:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h4GJlxjM029056 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 21:47:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:47:59 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030516194759.GA27609@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! Subject: 5.1-BETA on a Dell Latitude C800 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:49:02 -0000 --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, after a few months of neglecting my laptop, a Dell Latitude C800, I decided to do a reinstall, using 5.1-BETA. It seems to work fine, except for a few ACPI related problems. First of all, I get a lot of ACPI-0293: *** Warning: Buffer created with zero length in AML -0166: *** Error: UtAllocate: Attempt to allocate zero bytes on the console. This ends in acpi_cmbat0: battery initialization failed, giving up acpi_cmbat1: battery initialization failed, giving up I don't know if one has something to do with the other, but sysctl hw.acpi does indeed show a battery.life of -1, and a continuous battery.state of 7, even without AC power. Furthermore, I thought ACPI had an APM 'emulation' interface? The apm command after boot says 'APM disabled'. I can enable it by doing 'apm -e', but I would think it should be enabled by default. Can someone enlighten me as to the relation between ACPI and APM? (I don't have device apm in my kernel, and have apm.0.disabled=3D"1" in /boot/device.hints). Similarly, 'zzz' doesn't work. Should I use acpiconf -s instead? If so, which state? The few states I've tried all ended up in a blank screen, and no keypresses etc could recover the laptop. I do not have X running yet, so no console switches needed. Does anyone else have battery & suspend working on a Latitude C800? Next up is setting up X, and trying to get an external modem to work -- the internal modem is a 3com 3c556 mini-pci, which is a winmodem. --Stijn --=20 "...I like logs. They give me a warm fuzzy feeling. I've been known to keep logs for 30 months at a time (generally when I thought I was rotating them daily, but was actually rotating them once a month)." -- Michael Lucas, in Big Scary Daemons article 'Controlling Bandwidth' --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+xUBvY3r/tLQmfWcRArGpAJ4lkzJatoLCy1Yr7CjKKX57fEv1nQCfcIC/ zZxZYcFb+yro2vswetgc/wk= =uHHe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 13:36:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629AE37B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 13:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 12-221-88-80.client.insightbb.com (12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com [12.221.88.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BD8443F85 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 13:36:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tychang1@uiuc.edu) Received: (qmail 24347 invoked by uid 1000); 16 May 2003 20:36:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 May 2003 20:36:06 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:36:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Tony Chang X-X-Sender: w@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 (firewire) support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:36:12 -0000 On Fri, 16 May 2003, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > 1.) Does FreeBSD support firewire? Yes. You can support for it by adding 'device firewire' and 'device sbp' to your kernel config file. You'll need to add some SCSI stuff too like 'device scbus' and 'device da'. > 2.) Does FreeBSD support disk and optical drives over > firewire, or does this require a special OS specific driver? Yes, that's what the sbp part is. The CD-ROM on my docking station connects via firewire without any problems. I've also attached ide drives in an external firewire enclosure without any problems (both cd-rw drives and hdds). I was even able to attach a mac formatted FireFly pocket hdd, I just couldn't read any of the files because of the mac file system. Tony -- Tony Chang tychang1@uiuc.edu http://www.aypwip.org "The highest beings of all are the ones who are willing to pay any personal cost for the good of those who need them." --Ender from Xenocide by Orson Scott Card From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 13:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE7537B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 13:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBDF43FBD for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 13:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19GmEQ-0008SC-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 22:55:10 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19GmEP-0008Rv-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 22:55:09 +0200 From: "Jesse D. Guardiani" Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:56:52 -0400 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: news Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 (firewire) support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:56:57 -0000 "Tony Chang" wrote in message news:20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com... > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: > > > 1.) Does FreeBSD support firewire? > > Yes. You can support for it by adding 'device firewire' and > 'device sbp' to your kernel config file. You'll need to add > some SCSI stuff too like 'device scbus' and 'device da'. > > > 2.) Does FreeBSD support disk and optical drives over > > firewire, or does this require a special OS specific driver? > > Yes, that's what the sbp part is. The CD-ROM on my docking > station connects via firewire without any problems. I've also > attached ide drives in an external firewire enclosure without > any problems (both cd-rw drives and hdds). I was even able to > attach a mac formatted FireFly pocket hdd, I just couldn't read > any of the files because of the mac file system. Well that is certainly good news. I suppose this means that the firewire standard isn't chipset dependant like bluetooth and 802.11 then eh? I guess "firewire" includes the internal hardware interface also. I wish 802.11 and Bluetooth were like that. Oh well. Thanks! > > Tony > > -- > Tony Chang > tychang1@uiuc.edu > > http://www.aypwip.org > > "The highest beings of all are the ones who are willing to pay > any personal cost for the good of those who need them." > --Ender from Xenocide by Orson Scott Card > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 14:04:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAF237B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558B843F75 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4GL3rkA061585; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:03:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:02:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030516.150243.127665792.imp@bsdimp.com> To: bakul@bitblocks.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200305070043.h470hhPF095578@bitblocks.com> References: <20030506091906.GE53225@sr.se> <200305070043.h470hhPF095578@bitblocks.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: gunnar.flygt@sr.se cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current, ACPI and my Compac EVO N800c X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:04:00 -0000 How does one create a file from the aml? Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 14:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1C137B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitblocks.com (bitblocks.com [209.204.185.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B9F43F3F for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bitblocks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4GLG5PF061777; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Message-Id: <200305162116.h4GLG5PF061777@bitblocks.com> To: "M. Warner Losh" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 2003 15:02:43 MDT." <20030516.150243.127665792.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:16:05 -0700 From: Bakul Shah cc: gunnar.flygt@sr.se cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current, ACPI and my Compac EVO N800c X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:16:10 -0000 > How does one create a file from the aml? If the aml is in a file foo.aml you can do this: acpidump -f foo.aml > foo.asl To read your machine's DSDT tables and decode aml in it acpidump > foo.asl To recreate an aml file once you fix anything, you will need acpicatools from the ports. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 14:18:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE9B37B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D11F43FBF for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4GLIpkA061829; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:18:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:17:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030516.151741.62579008.imp@bsdimp.com> To: bakul@bitblocks.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200305162116.h4GLG5PF061777@bitblocks.com> References: <20030516.150243.127665792.imp@bsdimp.com> <200305162116.h4GLG5PF061777@bitblocks.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: gunnar.flygt@sr.se cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current, ACPI and my Compac EVO N800c X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:18:55 -0000 In message: <200305162116.h4GLG5PF061777@bitblocks.com> Bakul Shah writes: : > How does one create a file from the aml? : : If the aml is in a file foo.aml you can do this: : acpidump -f foo.aml > foo.asl : To read your machine's DSDT tables and decode aml in it : acpidump > foo.asl hmmm, I want to hack the output acpidump's foo.asl and create the aml. I get confused over the acronyms sometime. Basically, I have source, and I wanna create something I can load in the loader. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 14:23:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139E037B407 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC15C43FE3 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h4GLMfA0032691; Fri, 16 May 2003 23:22:41 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 3151 invoked by uid 1000); Fri, 16 May 2003 21:22:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 23:22:41 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20030516212240.GA629@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <20030516.150243.127665792.imp@bsdimp.com> <200305162116.h4GLG5PF061777@bitblocks.com> <20030516.151741.62579008.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030516.151741.62579008.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current, ACPI and my Compac EVO N800c X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:23:23 -0000 On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 03:17:41PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > hmmm, I want to hack the output acpidump's foo.asl and create the > aml. I get confused over the acronyms sometime. Basically, I have > source, and I wanna create something I can load in the loader. You'll need iasl. It's in the devel/acpicatools port. Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 14:35:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C774837B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [195.122.218.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6322943F93 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:35:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: from pav.oook.cz (localhost.oook.cz [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4GLZFXD086694; Fri, 16 May 2003 23:35:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.oook.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4GLZF7J086693; Fri, 16 May 2003 23:35:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@oook.cz using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Tony Chang In-Reply-To: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> References: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1053120915.86524.0.camel@pav.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.3 (Preview Release) Date: 16 May 2003 23:35:15 +0200 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 (firewire) support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:35:22 -0000 V p? 16. 05. 2003 v 22:36, Tony Chang napsal: > > 2.) Does FreeBSD support disk and optical drives over > > firewire, or does this require a special OS specific driver? > > Yes, that's what the sbp part is. The CD-ROM on my docking > station connects via firewire without any problems. I've also > attached ide drives in an external firewire enclosure without > any problems (both cd-rw drives and hdds). I was even able to Can you *burn* on that external cd-rw? -- Pav Lucistnik Cislo, ktere jste vytocili, je imaginarni. Prosim otocte svuj telefon o 90 stupnu a zkuste znovu. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 15:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D5F37B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitblocks.com (bitblocks.com [209.204.185.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32DE43F75 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bitblocks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4GMFkPF062168; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Message-Id: <200305162215.h4GMFkPF062168@bitblocks.com> To: "M. Warner Losh" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 2003 15:17:41 MDT." <20030516.151741.62579008.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:15:46 -0700 From: Bakul Shah cc: gunnar.flygt@sr.se cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current, ACPI and my Compac EVO N800c X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 22:16:09 -0000 > : > How does one create a file from the aml? > : > : If the aml is in a file foo.aml you can do this: > : acpidump -f foo.aml > foo.asl > : To read your machine's DSDT tables and decode aml in it > : acpidump > foo.asl > > hmmm, I want to hack the output acpidump's foo.asl and create the > aml. I get confused over the acronyms sometime. Basically, I have > source, and I wanna create something I can load in the loader. aml == acpi machine language asl == acpi source language you need iasl from the ports/devel/acpicatools. Something like iasl foo.asl will create acpi_dsdt.aml. You may need some options depending on your asl file (for example, -i to ignore errors and create acpi_dstl.aml in any case). From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 16:37:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F0137B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 16:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBAD243F3F for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 16:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@hyperreal.org) Received: (qmail 51834 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 23:37:08 -0000 Received: from localhost.hyperreal.org (HELO yez.hyperreal.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 May 2003 23:37:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 7666 invoked by uid 1000); 16 May 2003 23:37:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 May 2003 23:37:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: Tony Chang In-Reply-To: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> Message-ID: <20030516163517.I454@yez.hyperreal.org> References: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 (firewire) support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 23:37:06 -0000 On Fri, 16 May 2003, Tony Chang wrote: > Yes, that's what the sbp part is. The CD-ROM on my docking > station connects via firewire without any problems. I've also > attached ide drives in an external firewire enclosure without > any problems (both cd-rw drives and hdds). I was even able to > attach a mac formatted FireFly pocket hdd, I just couldn't read > any of the files because of the mac file system. Is anyone collecting examples of external firewire hdd's that work? Particularly any that double as mp3 players? I see a few here and there but I'm worried they won't connect - I tried one that a friend owned a few months ago but while it was recognized I couldn't get it to mount. I suppose it might also matter what firewire controller one's got. Brian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 18:15:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCAF37B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 18:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 12-221-88-80.client.insightbb.com (12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com [12.221.88.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F207343FAF for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 18:14:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tychang1@uiuc.edu) Received: (qmail 25309 invoked by uid 1000); 17 May 2003 01:14:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 2003 01:14:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:14:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Tony Chang X-X-Sender: w@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1053120915.86524.0.camel@pav.oook.cz> Message-ID: <20030516201108.C25298@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> References: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> <1053120915.86524.0.camel@pav.oook.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 (firewire) support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 01:15:01 -0000 On Fri, 16 May 2003, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > V p? 16. 05. 2003 v 22:36, Tony Chang napsal: > > > > 2.) Does FreeBSD support disk and optical drives over > > > firewire, or does this require a special OS specific driver? > > > > Yes, that's what the sbp part is. The CD-ROM on my docking > > station connects via firewire without any problems. I've also > > attached ide drives in an external firewire enclosure without > > any problems (both cd-rw drives and hdds). I was even able to > > Can you *burn* on that external cd-rw? Yes. I'm using cdrtools (/usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools) + xcdroast as a front end. I don't know if it matters or not, but it connects using the 6 pin connector to the external enclosure The laptop has a 6 pin firewire connector on the side and the docking station has a 4 pin firewire connector. I've never tried using the 4 pin connector since I don't have any 4 pin devices. Everything works as if it's a standard SCSI device. Tony -- Tony Chang tychang1@uiuc.edu http://www.aypwip.org "One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty." --Martin Luther King, Jr. Letter from Birmingham Jail From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 19:16:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380D337B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 19:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (parmenides.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11B0F43F85 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 19:16:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@ubik.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 16825 invoked from network); 17 May 2003 02:16:30 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 17 May 2003 02:16:30 -0000 Received: from dsl-217-155-183-134.zen.co.uk (HELO ubik.demon.co.uk) (217.155.183.134) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 17 May 2003 02:16:30 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 217.155.183.134 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 02:15:30 +0000 To: ticso@cicely.de From: Anthony Naggs References: <200305132140.16742.cbiffle@safety.net> <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> <20030515.193206.51840764.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030516133103.GA488@cicely12.cicely.de> In-Reply-To: <20030516133103.GA488@cicely12.cicely.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U cc: cbiffle@safety.net cc: ticso@cicely9.cicely.de cc: mobile@freebsd.org cc: "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: pcmcia and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 02:16:33 -0000 In article <20030516133103.GA488@cicely12.cicely.de>, Bernd Walter writes >On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 07:32:06PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: >> In message: <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> >> Bernd Walter writes: >> : On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:40:16PM -0700, Cliff L. Biffle wrote: >> : > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 09:07 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: >> : > > Has anyone ever tried to get a USB PCCard adapter to work with 4.x ? >> : > >> : > I've never found a PCMCIA USB controller that wasn't Cardbus. (I have >several >> : > non-Cardbus laptops and one PDA that would just love to have USB.) >> : >> : They do exist but are not supported. >> >> Really? I've never seen one... And I've been looking... UHCI and OHCI use PCI bus mastering to access the transfer information. PCMCIA doesn't support this so you need Cardbus to do this properly. One could possibly kludge some buffer memory onto a PCMCIA card with the USB controller, but the drivers would have to know about it. >I havn't seen them for a while. >Possibly you can only get used parts now. >A guess would be that they were slhci based, but I really don't know. >Maybe you can get some informations by searching for slhci. If so I suggest you don't expect too much from them. ScanLogic USB controller parts (now Cypress) don't suit PC usage of USB. Both the SL11 and SL811 only have an 8-bit data bus, and soak up a lot of cpu cycles for modest throughput. The SL11 generates an interrupt for every frame & every completed packet. The SL811 can be programmed with 2 packets to transfer rather than one. So you can unload previously received data or load the next packet whilst another is in progress. This likely sucks up noticeable amounts of CPU time even if you are just counting frames and polling the keyboard every 10th frame (i.e. every 10ms). Bulk transfers (printing, mass storage, network adapter, etc...) are really painful. It's not very sane on a PC to sacrifice 5%, 10%, or maybe more, of your cpu time to running a USB host controller. The Philips ISP1161 USB host/device controller is a more likely choice: 16-bit data bus, more intelligence, less interrupt load - 1 or 2 per frame (ms) allow you to unload transfer results and load a frame of scheduled transfers. It's not going to match OHCI performance but it should be useable. I'm not aware of any PCMCIA cards, but there are 16-bit ISA cards around: http://www.simtec.co.uk/products/EB1161ISA/ If an ISP1161 driver is needed please let me know. I've written drivers for the ISP1161 before, though not for *nix, so I can probably help somewhat. (Be aware that I don't religiously read the FreeBSD lists. I'm also dropping this email address next month, June 2003, so you may need Google to find me.) Cheers, Tony From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 19:37:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A3337B404 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 19:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (parmenides.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E15EF43FA3 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 19:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@ubik.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 24903 invoked from network); 17 May 2003 02:37:25 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 17 May 2003 02:37:25 -0000 Received: from dsl-217-155-183-134.zen.co.uk (HELO ubik.demon.co.uk) (217.155.183.134) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 17 May 2003 02:37:25 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 217.155.183.134 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 02:36:31 +0000 To: "Jesse D. Guardiani" From: Anthony Naggs References: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 (firewire) support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 02:37:29 -0000 In article , Jesse D. Guardiani writes > > >Well that is certainly good news. I suppose this means that the >firewire standard isn't chipset dependant like bluetooth and >802.11 then eh? I guess "firewire" includes the internal hardware >interface also. In a similar vein to the UHCI, OHCI & EHCI standards for USB host controllers there is also an OHCI (Open Host Controller Interface) standard for Firewire host controllers. As far as I know all vendors now follow this. Aside from minor quirks this should make things pretty straightforward. (OHCI USB & OHCI Firewire standards are very different, don't be misled by the similar names.) Be aware that old Firewire controller chips may have a vendor proprietary interface. This should only affect adapter cards. Firewire on the motherboard is recent enough that all systems should be OHCI compatible. Tony From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 20:24:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A366637B401 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 20:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.sanda.gr.jp (net.sanda.gr.jp [202.216.236.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341F043FBD for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 20:24:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from non@ever.sanda.gr.jp) Received: from oliv.ever.sanda.gr.jp (oliv [10.93.63.4]) by ns1.sanda.gr.jp (8.11.6/3.7W) with ESMTP id h4H3O7269978 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 12:24:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost.ever.sanda.gr.jp [127.0.0.1]) by oliv.ever.sanda.gr.jp (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4H3O6Yw062554 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 12:24:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from non@ever.sanda.gr.jp) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 12:24:06 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030517.122406.62186646.non@ever.sanda.gr.jp> To: mobile@freebsd.org From: non@ever.sanda.gr.jp In-Reply-To: <20030515.193206.51840764.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <200305132140.16742.cbiffle@safety.net> <20030515001204.GB7361@cicely9.cicely.de> <20030515.193206.51840764.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pcmcia and usb X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 03:24:10 -0000 From: "M. Warner Losh" Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:32:06 -0600 (MDT) > : > > Has anyone ever tried to get a USB PCCard adapter to work with 4.x ? > : > > : > I've never found a PCMCIA USB controller that wasn't Cardbus. (I have several > : > non-Cardbus laptops and one PDA that would just love to have USB.) > : > : They do exist but are not supported. > > Really? I've never seen one... And I've been looking... http://www.ratocsystems.com/products/subpage/cfu1.html Written in Japanese. CF size USB adapter for Windows CE. // Noriaki Mitsunaga // From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 02:37:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767737B401 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 02:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marley.bwbohh.net (marley.bwbohh.net [209.123.207.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8137C43FB1 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 02:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@utzweb.net) Received: by marley.bwbohh.net (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 5DB5B53F71; Fri, 16 May 2003 18:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 131.107.3.70 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user john-utzweb-net) by utzweb.net with HTTP; Fri, 16 May 2003 18:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15782.131.107.3.70.1053122902.squirrel@utzweb.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 18:08:22 -0400 (EDT) From: To: In-Reply-To: References: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.3.1 [DEVEL]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:37:47 -0000 Hi All; The existence of firwire support in FreeBSD is a really important and fascinating bit of information of which i was heretofore unaware! Is jessie's assertion correct here? ie, if it sez 'firewire' on it, it 'Just Works'(tm), be it cardbus, pcmcia, pci or isa?( dont think there are any isa firewire cards out there - tho if there are pcmcia cards, then i suppose it could be possible) furthermore, is firewire a sufficient abstraction that hooking up my scsi jaz drive via a scsi/firewire adapter would also 'Just Work'? i just saw on the web a scsi firwire adapter that is sbp2 compliant, is that compatible with device sbp? next question is a bit hard to ask tersely, but i'll try... does firewire avoid the goofyness that usb, usb2.0 has where the plug is the same, but the chips' bus interface is apparantly not the same? ie usb is supported in FreeBSD and usb2 is not. is there older, slower, firewire things and newer, faster, firewire things and they all work? (did that make sense?) tnx! johnu > > "Tony Chang" wrote in message > news:20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com... >> On Fri, 16 May 2003, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: >> >> > 1.) Does FreeBSD support firewire? >> >> Yes. You can support for it by adding 'device firewire' and >> 'device sbp' to your kernel config file. You'll need to add >> some SCSI stuff too like 'device scbus' and 'device da'. >> >> > 2.) Does FreeBSD support disk and optical drives over >> > firewire, or does this require a special OS specific driver? >> >> Yes, that's what the sbp part is. The CD-ROM on my docking >> station connects via firewire without any problems. I've also >> attached ide drives in an external firewire enclosure without >> any problems (both cd-rw drives and hdds). I was even able to >> attach a mac formatted FireFly pocket hdd, I just couldn't read >> any of the files because of the mac file system. > > Well that is certainly good news. I suppose this means that the > firewire standard isn't chipset dependant like bluetooth and > 802.11 then eh? I guess "firewire" includes the internal hardware > interface also. > > I wish 802.11 and Bluetooth were like that. Oh well. > > Thanks! > > > >> >> Tony >> >> -- >> Tony Chang >> tychang1@uiuc.edu >> >> http://www.aypwip.org >> >> "The highest beings of all are the ones who are willing to pay >> any personal cost for the good of those who need them." >> --Ender from Xenocide by Orson Scott Card >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 02:57:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E660237B401 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 02:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.205.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6485243F93 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 02:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tamaru@myn.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70D82181A4 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 18:57:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (IDENT:mirapoint@mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.205.3]) h4H9vs7G023343 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 18:57:54 +0900 Received: from amulet.amuletic.net (YahooBB219001110004.bbtec.net [219.1.110.4])2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id AIR53086; Sat, 17 May 2003 18:57:53 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 18:57:53 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hiroharu Tamaru To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15782.131.107.3.70.1053122902.squirrel@utzweb.net> References: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> <15782.131.107.3.70.1053122902.squirrel@utzweb.net> User-Agent: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) Emacs/21.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.5 - "Awara-Onsen") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:57:59 -0000 Hi there, You should definitely check out the freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org ML archives, and also subscribe to the ML maybe. Many devices including HDDs, scanners, DV cams, 'just work' on PCI-firewire interfaces and firewire-equiped laptops, by just kldload'ing firewire.ko. The maintainer, Hidetoshi Shimokawa, is quite active there too. -- Hiroharu Tamaru From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 05:33:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A28C37B401 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 05:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz (sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.17.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F4443F93 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 05:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vaclav.petricek@mff.cuni.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4HCehLR029667 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 14:40:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vaclav.petricek@mff.cuni.cz) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 14:40:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Vaclav Petricek X-X-Sender: petricek@sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: wi - filtering traffic between stations on the same AP X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 12:33:37 -0000 Hello I would like to be able to filter traffic between stations connected to a single AP. The AP should be used just for Internet access and not for communication between local stations. Reason: 1. I do not want the stations to use the AP as a retranslation point where they do not see each other directly 2. I want to limit the traffic generated by windows broadcasts etc. I have seen in the wi driver that when the packet is destined for an associated station, or it is a broad/multi/cast it gets retransmitted immediatelly. My questions are: 1. Is there a way to force these packets to go through ipfw without patching kernel? I have seen some sysctls that should control the ethernet level filtering but I had no luck making it work on a single wi interface. A pointer describing the data flow between interface kernel modules, kernel and firewall modules would be great. 2. In case I do have to make a patch to implement this filtering, what is the best way to encapsulate it? Some flag to ifconfig that says drop broadcasts and do not resend packets to associated stations? Thanks for any hints, -- Vaclav Petricek From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 05:51:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7229037B401 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 05:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz (sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.17.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7368643FA3 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 05:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vaclav.petricek@mff.cuni.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4HCwDLR029684; Sat, 17 May 2003 14:58:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vaclav.petricek@mff.cuni.cz) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 14:58:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Vaclav Petricek X-X-Sender: petricek@sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz To: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030510.231259.78708366.imp@bsdimp.com> Message-ID: References: <20030510.231259.78708366.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 12:51:10 -0000 Hello Warner On Sat, 10 May 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: > Alej Lekatsas writes: > > : I would actually like to lower the output power in order to put a > : better directional antenna. If I put it now I would be breaking the > : law :) . > > There's some good work in the pipe that will allow this, but I'm not > sure when it will make it into the tree. I was just looking how to implement this as we need to lower txpower on access points with directional antennas to conform to the limits of Czech Telecommunication Bureau. I do not want to duplicate your work. Could you please release the patch so that people like me who really need it *now* can use it before it gets commited? Thank you very much, -- Vaclav Petricek From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 07:07:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586FC37B401 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 07:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexagon.stack.nl (hexagon.stack.nl [131.155.140.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A609743F93 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 07:07:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jilles@stack.nl) Received: by hexagon.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id AFFD61C66; Sat, 17 May 2003 16:07:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toad.stack.nl (toad.stack.nl [2001:610:1108:5010::135]) by hexagon.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEB51C5B for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 16:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by toad.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 1677) id 848429A; Sat, 17 May 2003 16:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:07:02 +0200 From: Jilles Tjoelker To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030517140702.GB34052@stack.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) Subject: USB wireless network adapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 14:07:09 -0000 Hello, I have a laptop (Fujitsu-Siemens C6175) dual-booting Windows 98SE and FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE and I would like to do wireless networking (802.11b) with it. The first thing I tried was a cardbus pccard from Sitecom, which uses the Prism2.5 chipset and should be supported by the wi(4) driver. However, I'm having trouble with pccard - FreeBSD says my pcic is "16-bit", and the card works under neither OS. Another possibility is a USB adapter from Sitecom. It works under Linux (Mandrake 9.1) with the prism2_usb module on another machine (it has to be removed and reinserted after the driver is loaded, though) and under Windows 98SE on the laptop. I have read about a uwi driver that supported Prism2 USB devices, but I could not find it. Does anyone have a pointer? (If it only works under -CURRENT, I will have to wait some time. I don't have the disk space to install both 4.x and 5.x and I want to have a "known good" version available for some time. -- Jilles Tjoelker From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 07:33:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E88D37B407 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 07:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz (sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.17.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0C743FBD for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 07:33:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vaclav.petricek@mff.cuni.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4HEetLR029786 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 16:40:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vaclav.petricek@mff.cuni.cz) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:40:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Vaclav Petricek X-X-Sender: petricek@sec.ms.mff.cuni.cz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Nokia D211 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 14:33:52 -0000 Hello Part of the linux driver for Nokia D211 (wlan+gprs+gsm PCMCIA card) comes in binary form only with a license prohibiting reverse engineering. Is there a chance it will be supported by FreeBSD in the near future? Are we dependend on nokia to disclose their source or would it be possible to get at least some of the card functionality using standard drivers? Is it likely nokia would provide the sources or a *BSD driver? Thank you for insight. -- Vaclav Petricek From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 08:38:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1643F37B404 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 08:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788EB43F93 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 08:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4HFbukA074378; Sat, 17 May 2003 09:38:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:37:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030517.093714.94555121.imp@bsdimp.com> To: john@utzweb.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <15782.131.107.3.70.1053122902.squirrel@utzweb.net> References: <20030516153211.W24315@12-221-88-80.client.insightBB.com> <15782.131.107.3.70.1053122902.squirrel@utzweb.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jesse@wingnet.net cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 15:38:04 -0000 In message: <15782.131.107.3.70.1053122902.squirrel@utzweb.net> writes: : ie, if it sez 'firewire' on it, it 'Just Works'(tm), be it cardbus, : pcmcia, pci or isa?( dont think there are any isa firewire cards out there : - tho if there are pcmcia cards, then i suppose it could be possible) remove 16-bit stuff from that, and yet. There's no support for things that aren't ohci-fw based. As far as I know, this covers most firewire chips. If there were ISA/PCMCIA firewire cards, then they'd be very slow devices (100Mbps isn't possible sustained). They also wouldn't be supported without a lot of work. : next question is a bit hard to ask tersely, but i'll try... : does firewire avoid the goofyness that usb, usb2.0 has where the plug is : the same, but the chips' bus interface is apparantly not the same? ie usb : is supported in FreeBSD and usb2 is not. is there older, slower, firewire : things and newer, faster, firewire things and they all work? (did that : make sense?) USB 1 and USB 2 are mechanically and electrically compatible. FreeBSD's support for 2.0 is weak right now, although I know that the ehci bridges are now in the tree. I've used usb2 devices in a slower usb1 speeds once in the past. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 08:41:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E6837B401 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5930343FBD for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 08:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4HFfdkA074411; Sat, 17 May 2003 09:41:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030517.094058.41701630.imp@bsdimp.com> To: vaclav.petricek@mff.cuni.cz From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nokia D211 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 15:41:42 -0000 In message: Vaclav Petricek writes: : Part of the linux driver for Nokia D211 (wlan+gprs+gsm PCMCIA card) comes : in binary form only with a license prohibiting reverse engineering. Yes. : Is there a chance it will be supported by FreeBSD in the near future? : Are we dependend on nokia to disclose their source or would it be possible : to get at least some of the card functionality using standard drivers? Is : it likely nokia would provide the sources or a *BSD driver? I've been working on a driver for a while that would wrap the Linux driver. It has been slow going and might not be possible in the end. I've a skeleton driver, but it gives nothing but panics when I try to use it and it gets into the binary gooball :-( Maybe if I can find a few days to concentrate on it I could make more progress. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 09:13:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958CA37B401 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 09:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.safety.net (ns3.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1317743FBD for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 09:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cbiffle@safety.net) Received: from localhost (rs.rackshack.net.safety.net [216.40.201.32]) by ns3.safety.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h4HGDIA31901; Sat, 17 May 2003 09:13:18 -0700 From: "Cliff L. Biffle" To: Jilles Tjoelker , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:14:44 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030517140702.GB34052@stack.nl> In-Reply-To: <20030517140702.GB34052@stack.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305170914.44778.cbiffle@safety.net> Subject: Re: USB wireless network adapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:13:21 -0000 On Saturday 17 May 2003 07:07 am, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: > The first thing I tried was a cardbus pccard from Sitecom, which uses > the Prism2.5 chipset and should be supported by the wi(4) driver. > However, I'm having trouble with pccard - FreeBSD says my pcic is > "16-bit", and the card works under neither OS. Unfortunately, 32-bit PCMCIA support -- that is, Cardbus -- isn't available until 5.0. I have little experience with the USB adapters, but you do have other options, namely finding a 16-bit wireless card. Most of the Orinoco cards I've come across have been 16-bit. Not quite an ideal solution, but it works for me. -Cliff L. Biffle From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 09:50:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C172937B401 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 09:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059F543F3F for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 09:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4HGoUkA075001; Sat, 17 May 2003 10:50:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 10:49:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030517.104945.22502008.imp@bsdimp.com> To: cbiffle@safety.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200305170914.44778.cbiffle@safety.net> References: <20030517140702.GB34052@stack.nl> <200305170914.44778.cbiffle@safety.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jilles+fbsd-mobile@stack.nl cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB wireless network adapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:50:33 -0000 In message: <200305170914.44778.cbiffle@safety.net> "Cliff L. Biffle" writes: : On Saturday 17 May 2003 07:07 am, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: : > The first thing I tried was a cardbus pccard from Sitecom, which uses : > the Prism2.5 chipset and should be supported by the wi(4) driver. : > However, I'm having trouble with pccard - FreeBSD says my pcic is : > "16-bit", and the card works under neither OS. OLDCARD should deal with pcic until I can get the 16-bit legacy support into 'newcard' : Unfortunately, 32-bit PCMCIA support -- that is, Cardbus -- isn't available : until 5.0. I have little experience with the USB adapters, but you do have : other options, namely finding a 16-bit wireless card. Most of the Orinoco : cards I've come across have been 16-bit. All the PC Cards supported by wi are 16-bit. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 17 13:02:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D68737B401; Sat, 17 May 2003 13:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windmill-en0.garlic.com (windmill-en0.garlic.com [208.195.160.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1D043F75; Sat, 17 May 2003 13:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madriax@garlic.com) Received: from someone (131.sm7.dialup.garlic.net [216.139.3.131]) h4HK1ti109554; Sat, 17 May 2003 13:01:56 -0700 Message-Id: <200305172001.h4HK1ti109554@windmill-en0.garlic.com> From: "Remington L." To: , , Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:01:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.4920 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcMcrkP4J7Ri0UPRTfSJkNLGVSS3Zw== Subject: Weird as* sound problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:02:18 -0000 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p7 I have a Sony VAIO GRX570 with a YAMAHA AC-XG Audio. My sound works on = in XMMS playing mp3s, here is the catch, the sound dies the second I stop moving the mouse. How the helldoes that work and how do I fix it Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Sat May 10 09:39:29 PDT 2003 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/laptop Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc06b6000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc06b60b4. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1590811848 Hz CPU: Pentium 4 (1590.81-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf24 Stepping =3D 4 =20 Features=3D0x3febf9ff real memory =3D 536346624 (511 MB) avail memory =3D 513757184 (489 MB) Initializing GEOMetry subsystem Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00fdf50 ACPI-0625: *** Info: GPE Block0 defined as GPE0 to GPE15 ACPI-0625: *** Info: GPE Block1 defined as GPE16 to GPE31 ACPI-0351: *** Error: Could not install PciConfig handler for PCI0, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS ACPI-0351: *** Error: Could not install PciConfig handler for PCI0, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS ACPI-0351: *** Error: Could not install PciConfig handler for PCI0, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz ACPI-0351: *** Error: Could not install PciConfig handler for PCI0, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xec000000-0xefffffff at = device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port = 0x1800-0x181f irq 9 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM), rev = 1.10/3.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. uhci1: port = 0x1820-0x183f irq 9 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port = 0x1840-0x185f at device 29.2 on pci0 pcib0: possible interrupts: 9 pcib0: slot 29 INTC routed to irq 9 via \\_SB_.LNKC usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered umass0: Sony USB Memory Stick Slot, rev 1.10/1.07, addr 2 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcic0: irq 3 at device 5.0 on pci2 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0xe8200000 pccard0: on pcic0 pcib2: possible interrupts: 9 pcib2: slot 5 INTB routed to irq 9 via \\_SB_.LNKG pcic1: irq 9 at device 5.1 on pci2 pcic1: PCI Memory allocated: 0xe8201000 pccard1: on pcic1 pci2: at device 5.2 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0x4000-0x403f mem = 0xe8200000-0xe8200fff irq 9 at device 8.0 on pci2 fxp0: Ethernet address 08:00:46:51:a4:b2 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1860-0x186f,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 mem 0xe8000000-0xe80003ff at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0x18c0-0x18ff,0x1c00-0x1cff irq 9 at device 31.5 on pci0 pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 acpi_ec0: port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0 port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/15 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat1: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 orm0: