From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 00:10:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50B316A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.88.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6754B43FBF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 627C0AE4A2; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030824071001.627C0AE4A2@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-08-03 - 2003-08-23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:10:03 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:25:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEDD16A4C0 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3C7E43FB1 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 23084 invoked by uid 65534); 24 Aug 2003 11:25:17 -0000 Received: from p508BFB7C.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO oak.pohoyda.family) (80.139.251.124) by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 24 Aug 2003 13:25:17 +0200 Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (oak.pohoyda.family [127.0.0.1]) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h7OBPHfN001471; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:25:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OBPG5N001468; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:25:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.pohoyda.family: apog set sender to alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net using -f Sender: alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net To: Tatsu References: <47113092538.20030821211436@rpg.pl> From: Alexander Pohoyda Date: 24 Aug 2003 13:25:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <47113092538.20030821211436@rpg.pl> Message-ID: <87ad9zl2lg.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Win to FreeBSD in company X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:25:20 -0000 Tatsu writes: > 1. Company's inside mail is on MS Exchange 5.5 (is going to > change to 2000 soon. And all managers and workers contact through > it. So my question is - is there any free (maybe GPL) mail klient > that uses MAPI ? (checked - no pop3 and smtp service working on > exchange) You can use either GNU Emacs + GNUS or Mozilla Mail client. > 2. I need a good stable web browser that have no problems with > different technology like java, flash etc. For example SAP > marketplace site and Tivoli www administration tool got problems > with some elements. AFAIR, SAP marketplace is only supported on Ms Internet Explorer 6.0, so you will not get exactly the same functionality on anything else. You can use Mozilla browser with SAP Enjoy design. There's no need for java or flash. The new Streamline design is currently supported on Ms Internet Explorer only, but there's a plan to make it available on Netscape Navigator as well. I will not tell you any timeframes, though. -- Alexander Pohoyda From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 12:35:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BAA16A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.host4u.net (saturn.host4u.net [216.71.64.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEDF43FA3 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:35:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@njcs-online.net) Received: from zeus (ool-44c11700.dyn.optonline.net [68.193.23.0]) by saturn.host4u.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h7OJZQ931010 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:35:26 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c36a77$0f9bb120$0500a8c0@geekiskahn> From: "Kevin Reiter" To: References: <20030824190051.83AD916A4EB@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:36:48 -0400 Organization: North Jersey Computer Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Win to FreeBSD in company X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:35:28 -0000 > 1. Company's inside mail is on MS Exchange 5.5 (is going to > change to 2000 soon. And all managers and workers contact through > it. So my question is - is there any free (maybe GPL) mail klient > that uses MAPI ? (checked - no pop3 and smtp service working on > exchange) Sylpheed-Claws (/usr/ports/mail/sylpheed-claws). Description from SourceForge: "A GTK+ based, lightweight, and fast e-mail client and newsreader. Supports POP3, APOP, IMAP, SMTP, SMTP AUTH, NNTP, LDAP. Features multiple accounts, spell-checking, address book, SSL, GPG/PGP, filtering, scoring, i18n, & more." I just finished setting up an Exchange 2003 Server and was going to see how well it works on that when you sent your message. E-mail me if you would like a status report on it. Kevin Reiter kevin@njcs-online.net From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 03:02:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9BB16A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECC6D43FE0 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from afterimage@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 11954 invoked by uid 65534); 25 Aug 2003 10:02:10 -0000 Received: from pD955E758.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO kaleigh) (217.85.231.88) by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 25 Aug 2003 12:02:10 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:02:01 +0200 From: Kristian Rink To: Tatsu , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030825120201.1cda69a8.afterimage@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <47113092538.20030821211436@rpg.pl> References: <47113092538.20030821211436@rpg.pl> Organization: zimmer428.net X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Win to FreeBSD in company X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:02:13 -0000 Hi there,... On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:14:36 +0200 Tatsu wrote: > Hello freebsd-newbies, >=20 > I got a job and spent 2 weeks on winxp. Now I want to transfer > to FreeBSD but got two problems: > 1. Company's inside mail is on MS Exchange 5.5 (is going to > change to 2000 soon. And all managers and workers contact > through it. So my question is - is there any free (maybe GPL) > mail klient that uses MAPI ? (checked - no pop3 and smtp service Though there are several clients allowing connections to the (in some fields basically broken) POP3 implementation of Exchange, I guess you'll have a hard time finding a free / open source software package connecting to MAPI. Basically, MAPI is a highly proprietary protocol Exchange and Outlook are using not only for transferring e-mails but also for all the other stuff you might want to do with Exchange (centralized appointment scheduling and groupware working, for example). Given that, you might=20 (a) want to set up your Exchange host to at least support standardized e-mail protocols like POP3 and SMTP - if you're the admin of that box, this shouldn't be too difficult, given that you still can't use the groupware/scheduling stuff, (b) check for some commercial MAPI connectors for free software (IIRC, there is one by ximian made for the evolution mailreader). > working on exchange) 2. I need a good stable web browser that > have no problems with different technology like java, flash etc. > For example SAP marketplace site and Tivoli www administration > tool got problems with some elements. Dunno about both SAP and Tivoli but about the web frontends of several document managemt systems we are working with, and by now I am happily using Mozilla|Firebird on both Win32 and *BSD/Linux without any trouble. :) Cheers, Kris --=20 unschuldig? nicht verd=E4chtig? unbeobachtet? vergi=DF es ... gegen eine gesellschaft der totalen =FCberwachung - aufwachen und mitmachen: http://www.stop1984.org From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 10:08:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761D816A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC1743FCB for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:3736 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19rKpb-0002gr-5y; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:08:39 -0700 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:07:17 -0700 Received: from dhcp-46-151.acuson.com ([157.226.46.151]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Q0N469MJ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:06:30 -0700 From: Johnson David To: Kristian Rink , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:07:46 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <47113092538.20030821211436@rpg.pl> <20030825120201.1cda69a8.afterimage@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20030825120201.1cda69a8.afterimage@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308251007.46351.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *19rKpb-0002gr-5y*vMVxg9.crfI* X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: Win to FreeBSD in company X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:08:45 -0000 On Monday 25 August 2003 03:02 am, Kristian Rink wrote: > (b) check for some commercial MAPI connectors for free software > (IIRC, there is one by ximian made for the evolution mailreader). My understanding of the Ximan Connector product is that it doesn't use MAPI. You still need to turn on various "open standards" protocols in exchange. Connector was designed to be deployed by an IT department, and not to be an end-run by the users around IT Exchange policy. David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 11:19:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA0616A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34D8643FEC for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:19:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from afterimage@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 13505 invoked by uid 65534); 25 Aug 2003 18:19:03 -0000 Received: from drsd-d9b85433.pool.mediaWays.net (HELO kassiopeia) (217.184.84.51) by mail.gmx.net (mp022) with SMTP; 25 Aug 2003 20:19:03 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:17:41 +0200 From: Kristian Rink To: Johnson David Message-Id: <20030825201741.7db44fea.afterimage@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200308251007.46351.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> References: <47113092538.20030821211436@rpg.pl> <20030825120201.1cda69a8.afterimage@gmx.net> <200308251007.46351.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: zimmer428.net X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Win to FreeBSD in company X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:19:06 -0000 On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:07:46 -0700 Johnson David wrote: > > (b) check for some commercial MAPI connectors for free software > > (IIRC, there is one by ximian made for the evolution > > mailreader). >=20 > My understanding of the Ximan Connector product is that it doesn't > use MAPI. You still need to turn on various "open standards" > protocols in exchange. Connector was designed to be deployed by an > IT department, and not to be an end-run by the users around IT > Exchange policy. Hmm, I just cross-read the Connector announcement once while we were searching for some solution doing almost exactly the opposite of what is needed here (set up sort of a system which manages groupware, contact and e-mail for Outlook clients while not being an Exchange server) so I quickly was off Connector again without really having done anything with it. Apologies of I pointed to the wrong direction. :) Cheers, kris/ --=20 F=FCr Freiheit und die Wahrung demokratischer Grundrechte im=20 Informationszeitalter - gegen Zensur, Manipulation und digitale Entm=FCndigung. Sch=FCtze Deine Rechte - sag _DEINE_ Meinung!=20 --------------- http://www.stop1984.org ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 14:55:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FCA16A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EEF43FF3 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam1@taboo.homeip.net) Received: from taboo.homeip.net ([205.206.225.222]) by priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.netESMTP <20030825215542.FQW5605.priv-edtnes57.telusplanet.net@taboo.homeip.net> for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:55:42 -0600 Received: PRIVATE Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:53:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Message-Id: <200308252153.h7PLrMsp000594@PRIVATE> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:36:05 -0700 Subject: Specific Ports Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:55:44 -0000 Newbie question: If I'm trying to get answers about a specific port should I be mailing the maintainer or using the ports mailing list? TIA From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 20:47:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14B216A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tevn.com (www.tevn.com [203.39.125.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0170243F93; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jennifer@tevn.com) Received: from jennifertoshiba ([10.10.10.193]) by tevn.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id h7R3ojP00754; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:50:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jennifer@tevn.com) Message-ID: <005301c36c4d$f308fd00$c10a0a0a@jennifertoshiba> From: "Jennifer" To: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:47:33 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C36CA1.C47B1140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd boot and fsck problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 03:47:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C36CA1.C47B1140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear FreeBSD people I started to learn and used FreeBSD from last year. And I found FreeBSD is really very powerful and lovely. But I am also a little scared of it, for then it has problem, I just do not know how to fix it. Here I came up a big emergent problem this morning, and I wish you can give me your precious advice and help. I have been using a script drivecopy.sh for a couple of months to do full backup once a week. This drivecopy.sh is a small scripts to copy whole IDE HDD (of freeBSD) to another HDD. Please have a look at the attached script drivecopy.sh It worked very fine till yesterday. Last night, As usual,I started ./drivecopy.sh to backup my FreeBSD4.3 server (Disk1) on another HDD(Disk2). Disk2 has been used successfully as backup for more than 10 times with same procedure of ./drivecopy.sh. So it seemed the start up going smoothly, then I left the server room. This morning, when I came to check the server and backup. (which was supposed to have finished). And I surprised to find all those horrible error messages on the console screen: ***start to quote error message ad0s2e: had error reading fsbn 97103692 of 3473456-3473467(ad0s2 bn 97103692; cn 6044 fn 108 sn 28) status=59 error=40 cannot read: BLK 3473456 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY. **end of error message quote So I had to force to suspend the backup process by pressing Ctrl+Z. Then I tried to reboot Disk1. I had problem during the booting process. **start to quote error message .... chflags: not found chown: not found cd: can't cd to /var/run cd: can't cd to /var/spool/lock /etc/rc: cann't create /var/run/dmesg.boot directory nonexistent cd: can't cd to /var/run /etc/rc: cannot ceate /var/run/clean_var:dirctory nonexitent. Enter full path of shell or return for /bin/sh ..... **end of error message quote Then I just press Enter and came to the single boot mode. I typed the following command to try to munually fsck the problem partition. #fsck /dev/ad0s2e The console then showed the following message. **/dev/ad0s2e **Last mounted on /www **Phase 1 -check block & size cannot read: BLK 19596336 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY continue [y/n] ....... Looks like the manual fsck doesn't working here. Then I tried my luck to boot Disk2.Unfortunately, it showed the same errors as Disk2 during booting. Your advice will be highly appreciated. Jennifer P.S. The attached is my drivecopy.sh,which had worked fine for the previous backup processes except yesterday. So I do not think anything wrong with the drivecopy.sh itself. There must be something wrong with my yesterday's backup process, though I can not find out what it is. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C36CA1.C47B1140 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="drivecopy.sh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="drivecopy.sh" #!/bin/sh=0A= newfs /dev/ad1s1a=0A= newfs /dev/ad1s2g=0A= newfs /dev/ad1s2f=0A= newfs /dev/ad1s1g=0A= newfs /dev/ad1s1e=0A= newfs /dev/ad1s1f=0A= newfs /dev/ad1s2e=0A= =0A= mount /dev/ad1s1a /back/root=0A= mount /dev/ad1s2g /back/backup=0A= mount /dev/ad1s2f /back/ftp =0A= mount /dev/ad1s1g /back/home=0A= mount /dev/ad1s1e /back/usr =0A= mount /dev/ad1s1f /back/var =0A= mount /dev/ad1s2e /back/www =0A= =0A= ( dump -0f - / ) | ( cd /back/root ; restore -rf - )=0A= ( dump -0f - /backup ) | ( cd /back/backup ; restore -rf - )=0A= ( dump -0f - /ftp ) | ( cd /back/ftp ; restore -rf - )=0A= ( dump -0f - /home ) | ( cd /back/home ; restore -rf - )=0A= ( dump -0f - /usr ) | ( cd /back/usr ; restore -rf - )=0A= ( dump -0f - /var ) | ( cd /back/var ; restore -rf - )=0A= ( dump -0f - /www ) | ( cd /back/www ; restore -rf - )=0A= =0A= umount /back/root=0A= umount /back/backup=0A= umount /back/ftp=0A= umount /back/home=0A= umount /back/usr=0A= umount /back/var=0A= umount /back/www=0A= =0A= tunefs -n enable /dev/ad1s1a=0A= tunefs -n enable /dev/ad1s2g=0A= tunefs -n enable /dev/ad1s2f =0A= tunefs -n enable /dev/ad1s1g =0A= tunefs -n enable /dev/ad1s1e =0A= tunefs -n enable /dev/ad1s1f =0A= tunefs -n enable /dev/ad1s2e =0A= =0A= #end=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C36CA1.C47B1140-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 09:06:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B7516A4BF for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ukpost.com (ns0.ukpost.com [217.158.120.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBA143FE1 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rama@ukfsn.org) Received: from mail.ukfsn.org (pop3.ukfsn.org [217.158.120.143]) by mail.ukpost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331091F8034; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:06:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from ukfsn.org (unknown [81.5.144.97]) by mail.ukfsn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C09E6A7D; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:00:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3F4CD702.1020506@ukfsn.org> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:06:26 +0100 From: Ramanan Selvaratnam User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tatsu References: <47113092538.20030821211436@rpg.pl> In-Reply-To: <47113092538.20030821211436@rpg.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Win to FreeBSD in company X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rama@uklinux.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:06:40 -0000 Tatsu wrote: > 2. I need a good stable web browser that have no problems with > different technology like java, flash etc. For example SAP > marketplace site and Tivoli www administration tool got problems > with some elements. > > I am not aware of the issues with websites and applications as pointed out above. Opera is a non free but stable web browser with well supported Linux binaries. If I remember correctly Oprera mimicks MS IE's signature and gets most of the incorrectly constructed web sites and applications (ie, those that work only for MS IE) to somehow work. Hope this is helpful. Regards, Ramanan > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 13:04:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8093E16A4D7 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web80705.mail.yahoo.com (web80705.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.170.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC66C4400B for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfreebsd@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030827200407.6578.qmail@web80705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.201.165.160] by web80705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:04:07 PDT Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:04:07 -0700 (PDT) From: M E To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:04:09 -0000 Hi Guys, can anyone please tell me how to install and partition window + Linux + freebsd on the same machine? I am still a newbie. Thanks God Bless You. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 20:13:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B804216A4BF for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DD84400B for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net) Received: from 123.st-louis-103-104rs.mo.dial-access.att.net ([12.85.105.123]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <20030828031305112006483ne>; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:13:05 +0000 From: Jonathan To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:16:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308272216.35996.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> Subject: 4.8 STABLE page fault under heavy swapping X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:13:08 -0000 kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 25 19:26:01 CDT 2003 compiler: gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD] computer: IBM ThinkPad 600E Hi: Both my desktop and laptop are crashing/rebooting when running portupgrade while at the same time using X. This never used to happen. To find out what was going on I ran several heavy computational sessions while at the same time portsdb -Uu was executing. Here is the backtrace from kdbg: (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0xc01abda7 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0xc01ac1e5 in panic (fmt=0xc031e8c4 "from debugger") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #3 0xc0134f0d in db_panic (addr=-898601789, have_addr=0, count=-1, modif=0xca706a34 "") at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:435 #4 0xc0134ead in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc03703c0, cmd_table=0xc0370200, aux_cmd_tablep=0xc03acdf8) at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:333 #5 0xc0134f72 in db_command_loop () at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:457 #6 0xc01370af in db_trap (type=12, code=0) at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_trap.c:71 #7 0xc02e57c2 in kdb_trap (type=12, code=0, regs=0xca706b64) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/db_interface.c:158 #8 0xc02f500c in trap_fatal (frame=0xca706b64, eva=14) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:969 #9 0xc02f4a1a in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -1069833940, tf_ebp = -898602080, tf_isp = -898602096, tf_ebx = -898455944, tf_edx = -901929760, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 14, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -898601789, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -1071020156, tf_ss = -898455944}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:636 #10 0xca706cc3 in ?? () #11 0xc0298784 in vm_fault (map=Cannot access memory at address 0x1024e. ) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_fault.c:292 Cannot access memory at address 0x10246. (kgdb) I performed a same stress test on Debian Linux and it worked flawlessly. No crashes. The FreeBSD crashes everytime. The computer in question is dual boot (Debian / FreeBSD) so both systems are using identical hardware. What I want to know is this happening because of the code merged from current? I read somwhere that they were going to try and make the accessible memory greater than 2 Gb. Yes I know this is a newbie forum. I am a newbie and I posted to the stable list and got no answer. I did see many e-mails with the title "Ok, are all the panics fixed now?". That worries me. I want to know if they are putting code from CURRENT into the 4.8 STABLE? Kind regards Jonathan From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 01:27:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0495116A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etna.obsidian.co.za (etna.obsidian.co.za [196.36.119.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E833D43FE3 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeandre@itvs.co.za) Received: from etna.obsidian.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by etna.obsidian.co.za (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7S8RE0u001277; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:27:14 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost)h7S8REbs001275; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:27:14 +0200 Received: from tarcil (tarcil [172.16.1.14]) by flash.itvs.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07163; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:28:10 +0200 From: Jeandre du Toit To: M E In-Reply-To: <20030827200407.6578.qmail@web80705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030827200407.6578.qmail@web80705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062056706.10792.19.camel@Tarcil> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 Date: 28 Aug 2003 09:45:06 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:27:18 -0000 Hi, I installed my system the following way, the 1st partition is Windows, the 2nd partition is FreeBSD, the 3rd partition is Linux boot and the 4th (extended) partition is the rest of the Linux partitions. Let me know if you need more info and exactly what it is that you need. Cheers Jeandre On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 22:04, M E wrote: > Hi Guys, > can anyone please tell me how to install and partition window + Linux + freebsd on the same machine? I am still a newbie. > Thanks > God Bless You. > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 03:28:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F225C16A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web80709.mail.yahoo.com (web80709.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.170.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8538C43FBD for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:28:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfreebsd@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030829102838.78067.qmail@web80709.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.201.166.34] by web80709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:28:38 PDT Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:28:38 -0700 (PDT) From: M E To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:28:39 -0000 Hello Guys, I hope you guys are not tired of me. How can I read a file (a text file for instance)from windows98 when Linux is running? I dont understand.And how can I make Linux and freeBSD recognise the window FAT32 file type ?? Please I need your help. God Bless You. Jamal --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 06:32:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E5916A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.netophilia.net (ns.netophilia.net [66.96.216.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C75643F75 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-lists@ns.netophilia.net) Received: from ns.netophilia.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.netophilia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF38B2A4E8; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from freebsd-lists@localhost) by ns.netophilia.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7TDWdOm004871; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:32:39 -0400 From: Dan To: M E Message-ID: <20030829133239.GA4795@netophilia.net> References: <20030829102838.78067.qmail@web80709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030829102838.78067.qmail@web80709.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: netophilia.net X-rated: All Right! Visit: http://netophilia.net cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:32:56 -0000 If it is a regular text file, you can use any editor, the most common ones being vi(m) or pico try 'man vi' or 'man pico' As for Fat32 support, have you tried doing 'mount -t msdos /dev/slice /mount/point'? Or maybe 'mount_msdosfs /dev/slice /mount/point'? M E extolled: > Hello Guys, > I hope you guys are not tired of me. How can I read a file (a text file for instance)from windows98 when Linux is running? I dont understand.And how can I make Linux and freeBSD recognise the window FAT32 file type ?? > Please I need your help. > God Bless You. > Jamal > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ___ Dan From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 17:40:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF8A16A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp10.hy.skanova.net (smtp10.hy.skanova.net [195.67.199.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D3343FD7 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mats.svensson2@comhem.se) Received: from evil (h178n1fls22o1073.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.128.178]) by smtp10.hy.skanova.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h7U0dwAT007231 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000c01c36e8f$4bc8b7d0$6500a8c0@evil> From: "mats" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:40:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: VI and terminals X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:40:06 -0000 Hi I have trouble using vi and vim under freebsd, under linux red hat it = was working perfect. The trouble is that the arrow-keys doesn't work = when I'm in insert mode. I have heard that it's important to use the = right terminalprogram. In vim it's ok with the fancy swedish letters = with dots over, but the arrow-keys doesn't work.=20 /Mats From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 19:10:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A63116A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DCE43FBF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7U2A5Up095707 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7U2A5a5095706 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200308300210.h7U2A5a5095706@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:10:06 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 22:42:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DA716A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.telissant.com (h-66-167-251-2.PHLAPAFG.covad.net [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8A743F3F for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from leporello.3dresearch.com (13.myma1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.177.46]) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064A718F4BC; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030830014004.02b9f7a8@imap.telissant.com> X-Sender: janos@imap.telissant.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:41:55 -0400 To: "mats" From: web@3dresearch.com In-Reply-To: <000c01c36e8f$4bc8b7d0$6500a8c0@evil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VI and terminals X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:42:22 -0000 At 08:40 PM 8/29/2003, you wrote: >Hi > >I have trouble using vi and vim under freebsd, under linux red hat it was >working perfect. The trouble is that the arrow-keys doesn't work when I'm >in insert mode. I have heard that it's important to use the right >terminalprogram. In vim it's ok with the fancy swedish letters with dots >over, but the arrow-keys doesn't work. > >/Mats >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Mats, add this line to your .vimrc file: :set nocp Solved the same problem for me... Janos Dohanics web@3dresearch.com http://www.3dresearch.com/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 01:01:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B1116A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hot.ee (mail.hot.ee [194.126.101.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3437A44001 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hej@hot.ee) Received: from localhost (relay4 [127.0.0.1]) by hot.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192A668DD8C for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:01:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hot.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay4 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12066-04 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:01:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from alpha2 (alpha2.hot.ee [10.0.0.158]) by hot.ee (Postfix) with SMTP id E9EC36878D2 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:01:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: by alpha2 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:58:15 +0300 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 10:58:15 +0300 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Mihail Errors-To: X-Mailer: Hot.ee webmail (http://portal.hot.ee) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <20030830080128.E9EC36878D2@hot.ee> X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.hot.ee Subject: USB CD-RW X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:01:31 -0000 Hi, Does anybody know a good how-to/tutorial on setting up a USB CD-writer? cheers ----------------------------------------- Hot Mobiil - helinad, logod ja piltsõnumid! http://portal.hot.ee From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 07:21:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B303A16A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp14.fre.skanova.net (smtp14.fre.skanova.net [195.67.227.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B032C43FDF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mats.svensson2@comhem.se) Received: from evil (h178n1fls22o1073.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.128.178]) by smtp14.fre.skanova.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h7UEL864020861 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:21:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <005601c36f02$02b41580$6500a8c0@evil> From: "mats" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:21:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Thanx Janos Dohanics X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:21:13 -0000 Hi And THANX a lot Janos Dohanics! For the tips about arrowkeys in vi/vim, = now it works perfect. And of course Thanx a lot to all other people here who have taken time = to answer! /Mats From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 12:17:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7375316A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB3243F85 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js479@comcast.net) Received: from green (pcp03754142pcs.walngs01.pa.comcast.net[68.34.188.253](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <200308301917280120023277e>; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 19:17:28 +0000 Message-ID: <004901c36f2b$e2dbd340$2202a8c0@green> From: "JS479" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:21:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Just saying Hi to everyone! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 19:17:30 -0000 Hello Everyone, I just wanted to say Hi. I just installed FreeBSD 5.0 and I have very = very little experience with any type of Unix/Linux systems. I am = currently enrolled in a Network Administration/ Network Security class = at a local technical college and want to get some in depth experience = with a Unix like OS. So I'm sure you will be answering lots of my silly = questions in the future. TIA, Joe From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 12:39:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19CB16A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web80701.mail.yahoo.com (web80701.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.170.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5ED9B43FB1 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:39:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfreebsd@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030830193953.32506.qmail@web80701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.136.198.108] by web80701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:39:53 PDT Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:39:53 -0700 (PDT) From: M E To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: setting up ppp X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 19:39:53 -0000 Hi All, I am having trouble setting up PPP properly on freebsd 2.2.5 which is also known as picoBSD.I've followed the handbook and a few other online tutorials but still it's not working.PPP did not connects. Please can a good samarithan explain to me the necessary steps that I should take in other to solve this misery?? I am still a newbie. I have got a dialup modem in which my computer is connected to. Please send me anything tutorial you may have. Thanks in advanced. Jamal. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 15:19:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382D316A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A279543FF7 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20030830221506014000v3f8e>; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:15:06 +0000 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: JS479 In-Reply-To: <004901c36f2b$e2dbd340$2202a8c0@green> Message-ID: <20030830151305.F21642@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <004901c36f2b$e2dbd340$2202a8c0@green> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Just saying Hi to everyone! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:19:12 -0000 On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, JS479 wrote: > Hello Everyone, I just wanted to say Hi. I just installed FreeBSD 5.0 > and I have very very little experience with any type of Unix/Linux > systems. I am currently enrolled in a Network Administration/ Network > Security class at a local technical college and want to get some in > depth experience with a Unix like OS. So I'm sure you will be > answering lots of my silly questions in the future. Welcome to the happy throng. Two things you should probably be aware of. First, 5.0 is a "developer's release," meaning that it's got a lot of rough edges that we're currently working on smoothing out. As a new user, you'd be much happier with the 4.8 release, or the upcoming 4.9 release. Second, this list is chartered for discussing new user experiences... not questions. So, if you have any questions, you should ask them on the freebsd-questions list. The folks there will be very glad to help you. Enjoy, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection