From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 22 6:12:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DF937B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 06:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from magellan.palisadesys.com (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FED43F13 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 06:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from mira (mira.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by magellan.palisadesys.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0MECmrG062299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:12:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) From: "Guy Helmer" To: Subject: RE: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:12:49 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just received a HP Proliant DL380 G3 with dual 2.8GHz Xeons to evaluate, but when I try to bring up an SMP kernel (GENERIC + SMP and APIC options and bge Ethernet driver) from 4.7-stable cvsupped January 3, it locks solid at the point where it prints "APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery". I have searched the 'net for help but I haven't found anything that seems to help. I have tried changing the BIOS's operating system support to Linux and SCO, but neither helped. A plain GENERIC kernel boots fine on the box. FWIW, a SuperMicro P4DPE-G2 with dual 2.8GHz Xeons booted the same SMP kernel just fine. Any thoughts? Guy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 22 7:47:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100A937B407 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F1143E4A for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:47:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 18072 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2003 15:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 22 Jan 2003 15:47:36 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0MFlRUT037870; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:47:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:47:30 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Guy Helmer Subject: RE: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 22-Jan-2003 Guy Helmer wrote: > I just received a HP Proliant DL380 G3 with dual 2.8GHz Xeons to evaluate, > but when I try to bring up an SMP kernel (GENERIC + SMP and APIC options and > bge Ethernet driver) from 4.7-stable cvsupped January 3, it locks solid at > the point where it prints "APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery". I > have searched the 'net for help but I haven't found anything that seems to > help. I have tried changing the BIOS's operating system support to Linux > and SCO, but neither helped. A plain GENERIC kernel boots fine on the box. > > FWIW, a SuperMicro P4DPE-G2 with dual 2.8GHz Xeons booted the same SMP > kernel just fine. > > Any thoughts? Some of the newer HPaq boxes do not deliver interrupts for the real time clock via the I/O APIC. There currently is not a work around for this, but at least one person at HP is looking into the issue and peter@ has been working on it as well. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 22 13:15:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3EF37B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ztxmail03.ztx.compaq.com (ztxmail03.ztx.compaq.com [161.114.1.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86DE43ED8 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:15:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.cagle@hp.com) Received: from cceexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net (cceexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.110.250.125]) by ztxmail03.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFDA3974 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:15:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from cceexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.110.250.85]) by cceexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:14:58 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:14:58 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? Thread-Index: AcLCLa4OOk2yng2hTwqDWV8XH/pchwALVF0A From: "Cagle, John (ISS-Houston)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2003 21:14:58.0800 (UTC) FILETIME=[51AE8700:01C2C25B] Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm working on this issue. We actually do deliver RTC interrupts through the IOAPIC, but we're not sure why the kernel isn't getting them. I will send an update to the list when we get this resolved. (soon...) By the way, this is also a problem with 5.0-release. Thanks, John -------------------------------- John Cagle john.cagle@hp.com Principal Member Technical Staff Industry Standard Servers Hewlett-Packard Company > -----Original Message----- > From: John Baldwin [mailto:jhb@FreeBSD.org]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:48 AM > To: Guy Helmer > Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 22-Jan-2003 Guy Helmer wrote: > > I just received a HP Proliant DL380 G3 with dual 2.8GHz Xeons to=20 > > evaluate, but when I try to bring up an SMP kernel (GENERIC=20 > + SMP and=20 > > APIC options and bge Ethernet driver) from 4.7-stable=20 > cvsupped January=20 > > 3, it locks solid at the point where it prints "APIC_IO:=20 > Testing 8254=20 > > interrupt delivery". I have searched the 'net for help but=20 > I haven't=20 > > found anything that seems to help. I have tried changing=20 > the BIOS's=20 > > operating system support to Linux and SCO, but neither helped. A=20 > > plain GENERIC kernel boots fine on the box. > >=20 > > FWIW, a SuperMicro P4DPE-G2 with dual 2.8GHz Xeons booted=20 > the same SMP=20 > > kernel just fine. > >=20 > > Any thoughts? >=20 > Some of the newer HPaq boxes do not deliver interrupts for=20 > the real time clock via the I/O APIC. There currently is not=20 > a work around for this, but at least one person at HP is=20 > looking into the issue and peter@ has been working on it as well. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > John Baldwin <>< =20 > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use > the Power to=20 > Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 22 17:55: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC7D37B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6673743E4A for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:55:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F1CDAE1C6; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:55:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:55:07 -0800 From: Paul Saab To: "Cagle, John (ISS-Houston)" Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? Message-ID: <20030123015507.GA44358@elvis.mu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cagle, John (ISS-Houston) (john.cagle@hp.com) wrote: > I'm working on this issue. We actually do deliver RTC interrupts > through the IOAPIC, but we're not sure why the kernel isn't getting > them. > > I will send an update to the list when we get this resolved. (soon...) > > By the way, this is also a problem with 5.0-release. Peter committed a fix to -current solves this problem. a RELENG_4 commit is coming shortly to fix it there as well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jan 23 2:32:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2BB37B401 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 02:32:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from imag.imag.fr (imag.imag.fr [129.88.30.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3522043F3F for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 02:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Nicolas.Kowalski@imag.fr) Received: from ormelune.imag.fr (ormelune.imag.fr [129.88.43.35]) by imag.imag.fr (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h0NAWn8H016987 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:32:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from astazou.imag.fr (kowalski@astazou [129.88.43.102]) by ormelune.imag.fr (8.11.6/8.11.3/ImagV2) with ESMTP id h0NAWnE27304 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:32:49 +0100 (MET) To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? References: <20030123015507.GA44358@elvis.mu.org> From: Nicolas Kowalski Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:32:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20030123015507.GA44358@elvis.mu.org> (Paul Saab's message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:55:07 -0800") Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i386-debian-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Saab writes: >> By the way, this is also a problem with 5.0-release. > > Peter committed a fix to -current solves this problem. a RELENG_4 commit > is coming shortly to fix it there as well. Yep ! I updated (-CURRENT) my Proliant ML370 this morning, and the fix works well. With hypethreading enabled, FreeBSD now uses 4 CPUs. :-) You all did a really great job ! Thanks a lot. PS (kernel log) : http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~kowalski/rochail-smp.log -- Nicolas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jan 23 5:48:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A9437B401 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DA643E4A for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:48:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D346EAE165; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:48:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:48:17 -0800 From: Paul Saab To: Nicolas Kowalski Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? Message-ID: <20030123134817.GA83493@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030123015507.GA44358@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nicolas Kowalski (Nicolas.Kowalski@imag.fr) wrote: > Paul Saab writes: > > >> By the way, this is also a problem with 5.0-release. > > > > Peter committed a fix to -current solves this problem. a RELENG_4 commit > > is coming shortly to fix it there as well. > > Yep ! I updated (-CURRENT) my Proliant ML370 this morning, and the fix > works well. With hypethreading enabled, FreeBSD now uses 4 CPUs. :-) To get it working in -STABLE, you will have to undef GRAB_LOPRIO in src/sys/i386/include/smptests.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 24 5:52:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAA337B401 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from imag.imag.fr (imag.imag.fr [129.88.30.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1B043F13 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:52:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Nicolas.Kowalski@imag.fr) Received: from ormelune.imag.fr (ormelune.imag.fr [129.88.43.35]) by imag.imag.fr (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h0ODqd7S027282 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:52:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from astazou.imag.fr (kowalski@astazou [129.88.43.102]) by ormelune.imag.fr (8.11.6/8.11.3/ImagV2) with ESMTP id h0ODqcE22590 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:52:38 +0100 (MET) To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.7 on 2 Xeons SMP? From: Nicolas Kowalski Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:52:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20030123134817.GA83493@elvis.mu.org> (Paul Saab's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:48:17 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090014 (Oort Gnus v0.14) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i386-debian-linux) References: <20030123015507.GA44358@elvis.mu.org> <20030123134817.GA83493@elvis.mu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Saab writes: > To get it working in -STABLE, you will have to undef GRAB_LOPRIO in > src/sys/i386/include/smptests.h This works well too. :-) Just a question : is there a plan to make this hack the default in the sources, or will I have to update manually this include file each time I run cvsup ? Thanks. -- Nicolas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 24 21:57:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A15A37B401 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:57:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from woolridge.ca (ip30-166.tor.istop.com [66.11.166.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7272443EB2 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:57:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dale-list-freebsd-smp-3@woolridge.org) Received: (qmail 35267 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Jan 2003 05:57:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:57:27 -0500 From: Dale Woolridge To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Over heating of the ABit BP6 motherboard Message-ID: <20030125055727.GA34960@woolridge.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org References: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> <20030115164141.GG1524@woolridge.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030115164141.GG1524@woolridge.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 15-Jan-2003 11:41 Dale Woolridge wrote: | | I'll be fixing my BP6 board with new caps in the above locations as well | as the reported EC10 cap problem. As far as I know, simply replacing | the 1000uF/10v caps with non-Jackcon ones is sufficient. As per reports, | I'll replace EC10 with a 1500uF/6.3v cap. I'll send out another note once | my changes are complete (reporting success/failure). Just sending out a follow-up. I repaired my BP6 last week and it's been up and running since with no apparent glitches. Unfortunately, I only have one cpu for the board at the moment, so I haven't actually tested SMP yet. -- -Dale To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 24 22: 4:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8544D37B401 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from woolridge.ca (ip30-166.tor.istop.com [66.11.166.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B113343F3F for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:04:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dale-list-freebsd-smp-3@woolridge.org) Received: (qmail 35723 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Jan 2003 06:04:50 -0000 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:04:50 -0500 From: Dale Woolridge To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Mark Lastdrager , Andrew MacIntyre Subject: Re: Abit SMP boards under FreeBSD (was Re: dnetc on xeon) Message-ID: <20030125060450.GB34960@woolridge.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Lastdrager , Andrew MacIntyre References: <20021019160725.GE1727@woolridge.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021019160725.GE1727@woolridge.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Oct-2002 12:07 Dale Woolridge wrote: | | I believe it when you say FreeBSD runs perfectly on the VP6, but I'm at | a point where (I think) I need to either replace the board or the CPUs. | I would hate to get a new board only to find I really needed new CPUs. | I'm really suspicious of the board, and don't know enough to understand | the signifance of why disabling the L2 cache suddenly made my UP system | stable. If anyone has any helpful suggestions, either about the L2 cache, | or how to distinguish a board problem from a CPU problem, I'd appreciate | hearing them very much. In the meantime, I'll probably try swapping my | CPUs just to see what happens. A friend suggested popping out one of the | CPUs and enabling the L2 cache again; anyone else think this might be a | fruitful effort? As I've found new information about the VP6, I thought I'd post about it in case there are other VP6 FreeBSD users out there. A Steven E. Smith suggested I swap my CPUs, which I did to no avail. I'd like to pretend my system is more stable now, but I don't think it is. Recently, I discovered an article (http://www.vp6-board.com/caps1.htm), which makes mention of faulty/poor quality capacitors. For now, I'm taking the article as gospel and going ahead with the changes. Since I had a BP6 with a blown cap, I decided to work on that board before going ahead with the VP6. Also, someone posted (here) an article about issues with the BP6, so I added that to the job. Since the BP6 repairs were so successful, I went ahead with the VP6 repairs yesterday. I'm happy to report that my system is incredibly stable now and I can actually use both CPUs. Prior to this, I couldn't boot into SMP or, if I could, it would only be for seconds; even UP was extremely unstable. -- -Dale To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message