From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 09:00:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2E437B408; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4164943FD7; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h73G095u000595; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:00:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h73G09bI000594; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308031600.h73G09bI000594@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, sparc64@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 16:00:12 -0000 TB --- mkdir /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 21:00:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7972537B405; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0704543FA3; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h744085u002112; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:00:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h74408nL002111; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308040400.h74408nL002111@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, sparc64@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 04:00:11 -0000 TB --- mkdir /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 03:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D70A37B401 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 03:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from radix.sorted.org (radix.sorted.org [194.70.217.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F5043FA3 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 03:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@sorted.org) Received: from sorted.org (bubble.sorted.org [194.70.217.145]) by radix.sorted.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57CE2B831 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:43:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:44:12 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Pete Bentley To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20030803033906.GF98015@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-Id: <95FEB258-C668-11D7-A575-000A959F6E56@sorted.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: Re: Netra X1 - Status query and stupid question X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 10:43:28 -0000 On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 04:39 AM, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 12:51:34PM +0100, Pete Bentley wrote: >> Just wondering what the status is with regard to drivers for >> the X1's onboard Davicom ethernet? [...] > > It should be finished. Can you test a latest kernel on an X1? Thanks for the info! I'll give it a go and report back just as soon as I can get a -current kernel onto the X1... That's probably not till the weekend though. Thinking about it, rather than mess with CDs and/or SLIP, the easiest way is probably to just do a drive swap with my Blade 100, install 5.1 on there and bring it up to -current then swap the drives back... Pete. From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 09:42:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EA637B401 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 09:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D8043F3F for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 09:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mux@freebsd.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1920) id 1E39C2ED440; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 09:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:42:48 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion To: Pete Bentley Message-ID: <20030804164248.GG65432@elvis.mu.org> References: <20030803033906.GF98015@dragon.nuxi.com> <95FEB258-C668-11D7-A575-000A959F6E56@sorted.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <95FEB258-C668-11D7-A575-000A959F6E56@sorted.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netra X1 - Status query and stupid question X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:42:49 -0000 Pete Bentley wrote: > On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 04:39 AM, David O'Brien wrote: > > >On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 12:51:34PM +0100, Pete Bentley wrote: > >>Just wondering what the status is with regard to drivers for > >>the X1's onboard Davicom ethernet? [...] > > > >It should be finished. Can you test a latest kernel on an X1? > > Thanks for the info! I'll give it a go and report back just as soon as > I can get a -current kernel onto the X1... That's probably not till the > weekend though. > > Thinking about it, rather than mess with CDs and/or SLIP, the easiest > way is probably to just do a drive swap with my Blade 100, install 5.1 on > there and bring it up to -current then swap the drives back... Sorry for bringing bad news, but it probably won't work yet. First, it seems integrated dc(4) cards in Netra X1's have their MAC address set to 00:00:00:00:00:00. This can probably be worked around by setting the MAC via ``ifconfig ether''. We need to get the MAC address from OpenFirmware properties but I haven't had time to implement this properly yet. Another problem that you might hit is PCI bus errors. It happened to at least one guy running FreeBSD/sparc64 with a dc(4) card. I have no idea what the problem is yet. The symptoms are panics under high network load. I'm interested in knowing if you're getting this too. I'm currently in holiday, but I'll have a look at these issues when I'm back. Cheers, Maxime From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 11:01:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A4C37B404 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A062F43FE3 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h74I1OUp066130 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h74I1OlG066124 for freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200308041801.h74I1OlG066124@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 18:01:31 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/06/24] sparc64/53670sparc64 pthreads implementation on 5.1-Release sp 1 problem total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/02/03] sparc64/47845sparc64 4 second daily clock drift 1 problem total. From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 15:53:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5E037B401; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0322443FAF; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:53:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h75Mrp4r019282; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:53:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h75Mrp3k019281; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308052253.h75Mrp3k019281@cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: current@freebsd.org, sparc64@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:53:53 -0000 TB --- mkdir /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64 TB --- mkdir /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64 TB --- 2003-08-05 21:42:24 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for sparc64/sparc64 TB --- 2003-08-05 21:42:24 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs checkout -P -A src TB --- 2003-08-05 21:46:08 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/obj/sparc64/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. TB --- 2003-08-05 22:42:02 - building generic kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Tue Aug 5 22:42:02 GMT 2003 >>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Tue Aug 5 22:50:50 GMT 2003 TB --- 2003-08-05 22:50:50 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/sparc64/conf TB --- /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2003-08-05 22:50:50 - building LINT kernel TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src TB --- /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Tue Aug 5 22:50:50 GMT 2003 [...] cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev 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-I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mcmodel=medlow -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev/cs/if_cs_isa.c cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter 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-I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mcmodel=medlow -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev/dpt/dpt_pci.c cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mcmodel=medlow -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-builtin -mcmodel=medlow -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c: In function `en_open_vcc': /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/dev/en/midway.c:1224: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2) *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/obj/sparc64/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64/src. TB --- 2003-08-05 22:53:50 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-08-05 22:53:50 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2003-08-05 22:53:50 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 23:25:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A29637B401 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9094943F75 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h776PbQX068771 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h776Pb9P068770 for sparc64@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:25:36 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: sparc64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Subject: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 06:25:38 -0000 Am I the only one that saw 'make world' go from almost 3 hours with GCC 3.2 to: -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> make world completed on Wed Aug 6 20:49:47 PDT 2003 (started Wed Aug 6 09:49:30 PDT 2003) -------------------------------------------------------------- 11h17.00s real 9h29m42.85s user 1h15m22.05s sys post GCC 3.3? This is a 500mhz Blade 100 with a GENERIC minus WITNESS* kernel. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 23:32:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0F237B401; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-135.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C8B43F75; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F1566B04; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 55E99643; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:32:10 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: David O'Brien Message-ID: <20030807063210.GA72779@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 06:32:23 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:25:36PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > Am I the only one that saw 'make world' go from almost 3 hours with GCC > 3.2 to: Nope, that's just gcc 3.3. Someone had a reference to some benchmarks the gcc people did that showed progressive slowdowns over the course of the gcc 3.x branch. :-( Kris --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/MfJpWry0BWjoQKURAoxLAJ4pewQuaa+q5zuTfbP37rxjtzxJBACgpBtN AJ5hlTgFZWWCNXFI5FrUC2w= =L/wm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 23:44:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D286237B401 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DBC43F85 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:44:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h776iSQX069218; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:44:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h776iQiR069217; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:44:26 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20030807064426.GA69176@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030807063210.GA72779@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030807063210.GA72779@rot13.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 06:44:30 -0000 On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:32:10PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:25:36PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > Am I the only one that saw 'make world' go from almost 3 hours with GCC > > 3.2 to: > > Nope, that's just gcc 3.3. Someone had a reference to some benchmarks > the gcc people did that showed progressive slowdowns over the course > of the gcc 3.x branch. It has been argued by Richard Henderson (urber GCC hacker) that 3.3 is no slower than 3.2. I'm now thinking that this is a cache-size issue. I wonder if GCC is blowing out my tiny 256KB cache. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 00:18:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90BB37B401; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de (mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de [193.174.154.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A54E43FA3; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100])h777Irv21668; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:18:53 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:18:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: "David O'Brien" In-Reply-To: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: <20030807091632.L622@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: harti@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 07:18:56 -0000 On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, David O'Brien wrote: DO>Am I the only one that saw 'make world' go from almost 3 hours with GCC DO>3.2 to: DO> DO> -------------------------------------------------------------- DO> >>> make world completed on Wed Aug 6 20:49:47 PDT 2003 DO> (started Wed Aug 6 09:49:30 PDT 2003) DO> -------------------------------------------------------------- DO> 11h17.00s real 9h29m42.85s user 1h15m22.05s sys DO> DO>post GCC 3.3? This is a 500mhz Blade 100 with a GENERIC minus WITNESS* DO>kernel. On my Ultra10 I had 4:10, now it is 5:40. Custom kernel without WITNESS. Shouldn't we try to get the kernel compiled with the Sun compiler :-) harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de, harti@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 00:43:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA77A37B401; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-135.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF76443F75; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15AC66B04; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF40A67F; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:43:29 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: David O'Brien Message-ID: <20030807074329.GA73001@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030807063210.GA72779@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030807064426.GA69176@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030807064426.GA69176@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: sparc64@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 07:43:42 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:44:26PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:32:10PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:25:36PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > Am I the only one that saw 'make world' go from almost 3 hours with G= CC > > > 3.2 to: > >=20 > > Nope, that's just gcc 3.3. Someone had a reference to some benchmarks > > the gcc people did that showed progressive slowdowns over the course > > of the gcc 3.x branch. >=20 > It has been argued by Richard Henderson (urber GCC hacker) that 3.3 is no > slower than 3.2. I'm now thinking that this is a cache-size issue. I > wonder if GCC is blowing out my tiny 256KB cache. I havent benchmarked make world myself recently, but the benchmark I remember was compiling some reference version of gcc with different gcc compiler versions (from 2.7.x to 3.4.x), and it demonstrated something like a factor of 3 slowdown from gcc 3.2 to 3.3 on i386. I'm paraphrasing from memory though, so I could be way off. Kris --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/MgMhWry0BWjoQKURAm9nAJ9SnlA34joaQ5kbKBdZbifINxyG2wCeNnh1 sIYyYYGWcM7NrNKAuetTnOU= =UMi+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 00:47:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6CE37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from madlen.mts.ru (madlen.mts.ru [212.44.140.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBFF43F85 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tiamat@komi.mts.ru) Received: from maeko.inside.mts.ru (maeko [192.168.10.3]) by madlen.mts.ru with SMTP id h777l8p11893 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:47:08 +0400 (MSD) Received: from stella.komi.mts.ru ([10.50.1.1]) by maeko.inside.mts.ru (NAVGW 2.5.2.12) with SMTP id M2003080711470526655 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 11:47:06 +0400 Received: from nbdav (nb-dav.komi.mts.ru [10.50.1.185]) (user=tiamat mech=NTLM bits=0) by stella.komi.mts.ru (MTS Komi/Smtp) with ESMTP id h777l3EU003114 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:47:03 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tiamat@komi.mts.ru) Message-ID: <01c101c35cb8$14c7c480$b901320a@komi.mts.ru> From: "Alex Deiter" To: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:46:58 +0400 Organization: MTS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4922.1500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Subject: LOM "break" command was ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 07:47:11 -0000 How to get OpenBoot prompt from running FreeBSD ? I'm running FreeBSD on netra T1/sf v120. 1. i send break from serial console: FreeBSD/sparc64 (host) (ttya) login: ~[sun]%break FreeBSD/sparc64 (host) (ttya) login: on solaris it works: Solaris console login: ~[sun]%break Type 'go' to resume ok go Solaris console login: 2. the LOM "break" command also was ignored: FreeBSD$ #. lom>break FreeBSD/sparc64 (host) (ttya) login: when you're running Solaris it work: Solaris console login: #. lom> lom>break Type 'go' to resume ok go Solaris console login: Thanks! From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 00:53:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9736237B401 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de (mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de [193.174.154.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F1A43F3F for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100])h777rmv23614; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:53:48 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:53:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: Alex Deiter In-Reply-To: <01c101c35cb8$14c7c480$b901320a@komi.mts.ru> Message-ID: <20030807095202.E622@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <01c101c35cb8$14c7c480$b901320a@komi.mts.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LOM "break" command was ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 07:53:52 -0000 On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Alex Deiter wrote: AD>How to get OpenBoot prompt from running FreeBSD ? I'm running FreeBSD on AD>netra T1/sf v120. I usually build the kernel with ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER. Then you can use ~^b harti AD> AD>1. i send break from serial console: AD> AD>FreeBSD/sparc64 (host) (ttya) AD> AD>login: ~[sun]%break AD> AD>FreeBSD/sparc64 (host) (ttya) AD> AD>login: AD> AD>on solaris it works: AD> AD>Solaris console login: ~[sun]%break AD>Type 'go' to resume AD>ok go AD> AD>Solaris console login: AD> AD>2. the LOM "break" command also was ignored: AD> AD>FreeBSD$ #. AD>lom>break AD> AD>FreeBSD/sparc64 (host) (ttya) AD> AD>login: AD> AD>when you're running Solaris it work: AD> AD>Solaris console login: #. AD>lom> AD>lom>break AD>Type 'go' to resume AD>ok go AD> AD>Solaris console login: AD> AD>Thanks! AD> AD>_______________________________________________ AD>freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list AD>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 AD>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" AD> -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de, harti@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 06:18:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5885C37B401; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azrael.nucflash.com (azrael.nucflash.com [66.220.23.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECA943FD7; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wesman@nucflash.com) Received: from azrael.nucflash.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by azrael.nucflash.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h77DIn7e022580; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wesman@localhost) by azrael.nucflash.com (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h77DInQS022579; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:18:49 -0700 From: Wesley Horner To: "David O'Brien" Message-ID: <20030807131849.GA22569@nucflash.com> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030807063210.GA72779@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030807064426.GA69176@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030807064426.GA69176@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: sparc64@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:18:53 -0000 On Wed Aug 06 at 11:44:26 PM, David O'Brien wrote: > It has been argued by Richard Henderson (urber GCC hacker) that 3.3 is no > slower than 3.2. I'm now thinking that this is a cache-size issue. I > wonder if GCC is blowing out my tiny 256KB cache. Not likely. I got almost an itenticle slowdown on a duel e250. I know the cus in that have at least 2 megs of cache each. It is just slow. Wes -- ~~~~wesman@nucflash.com~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My old sig was about Vaxen and VMS but I can't even figure out the name of the company that owns them anymore. From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 18:08:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B4F37B401; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E559843FE0; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7818CCx011942; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 21:08:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 21:08:11 -0400 To: obrien@freebsd.org, sparc64@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 01:08:14 -0000 At 11:25 PM -0700 8/6/03, David O'Brien wrote: >Am I the only one that saw 'make world' go from almost 3 hours >with GCC 3.2 to: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> make world completed on Wed Aug 6 20:49:47 PDT 2003 > (started Wed Aug 6 09:49:30 PDT 2003) > -------------------------------------------------------------- > 11h17.00s real 9h29m42.85s user 1h15m22.05s sys > >post GCC 3.3? This is a 500mhz Blade 100 with a GENERIC minus >WITNESS* kernel. I haven't rebuilt my sparc in awhile. I can do that this weekend though. I certainly hope it hasn't become that much slower, because my sparc is slower than yours! The builds on my dual-CPU athlon look like they're about the same time with gcc 3.2 vs 3.3. Are you just seeing this on sparcs? If you're saying it's only on the sparc platform, then how much does cross-building take? (building for sparc on i386). You're saying it is taking three *times* longer? ouch! -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 18:58:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C984E37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F9443FCB for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h781vxQX044785; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h781vwx0044784; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:57:58 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Garance A Drosihn Message-ID: <20030808015758.GA44766@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 01:58:01 -0000 On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:08:11PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > The builds on my dual-CPU athlon > look like they're about the same time with gcc 3.2 vs 3.3. Are you > just seeing this on sparcs? It appears that way -- my Alpha's also build world just slightly slower. > You're saying it is taking three *times* longer? ouch! Yes. :-(( From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 19:07:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ABD37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFF643FDF for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: from blues.seekingfire.prv (blues.seekingfire.prv [192.168.23.211]) by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203338B for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:07:57 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tillman@localhost) by blues.seekingfire.prv (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h7827vY19428 for sparc64@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:07:57 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:07:56 -0600 From: Tillman To: sparc64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030807200756.M16062@seekingfire.com> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from drosih@rpi.edu on Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:08:11PM -0400 X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 02:07:58 -0000 On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:08:11PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 11:25 PM -0700 8/6/03, David O'Brien wrote: > >Am I the only one that saw 'make world' go from almost 3 hours > >with GCC 3.2 to: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> make world completed on Wed Aug 6 20:49:47 PDT 2003 > > (started Wed Aug 6 09:49:30 PDT 2003) > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > 11h17.00s real 9h29m42.85s user 1h15m22.05s sys > > > >post GCC 3.3? This is a 500mhz Blade 100 with a GENERIC minus > >WITNESS* kernel. > > I haven't rebuilt my sparc in awhile. I can do that this weekend > though. I certainly hope it hasn't become that much slower, because > my sparc is slower than yours! It's definitely longer. On an Ultra 5 my buildworld time is now 1068m1.246s and my buildkernel is 442m44.184s. Add those together and you get more than 25 hours. Relevent CPU details: cpu0: Sun Microsystems UltraSparc-IIi Processor (360.00 MHz CPU) (I beleive the version of the UltraSparc 360 in the Ultra 5 has the 256K of cache rather than the 2M ... anyone know of a way to probe that from within FreeBSD? `dmesg` doesn't seem to show it.) I used to be able to start `make buildkernel && make -j4 buildworld` before going to work and have it done by the time I got home, so figure that at under 10 hours. I don't know for sure how long it took - it was short enough that I didn't see any point in timing it :-) The recent problems where -jX wouldn't work on buildworld have also had an additive (though small) impact on the times, roughly two hours in my case (slow drives, heh). I haven't had a chance to try a -jX buildworld recently to see if they're working again (note that the times I gave are from when they were working). On the other hand, I haven't had /any/ problems with the new gcc (extra warnings about inlining excepted), which is a good thing. -T -- Happiness is wanting what you get, NOT getting what you want. - Robert Heinlein From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 04:55:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A5C37B401 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from f22.mail.ru (f22.mail.ru [194.67.57.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6829E43F3F for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vudz@mail.ru) Received: from mail by f22.mail.ru with local id 19l5tJ-000PI6-00 for freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:58:41 +0400 Received: from [212.30.165.146] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:58:41 +0400 From: =?windows-1251?Q?=22?=Vadim Bondarev=?windows-1251?Q?=22=20?= To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [212.30.165.146] Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:58:41 +0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: Sun Blade 150 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?Q?=22?=Vadim Bondarev=?windows-1251?Q?=22=20?= List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:55:31 -0000 Good day. I'm tried to install FreeBSD 5.1 to SunBlade150 After processing all steps - but before coping files, I got errors from installed due creating new FS: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 resetting ad0: timeout sending command=ef s=d0 e=04 ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode ata2: ersetting devices Whats that mean and what to do?.. From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 01:24:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2B037B401; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2425C43FD7; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h798O2Cx011485; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 04:24:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 04:24:01 -0400 To: obrien@freebsd.org, sparc64@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:24:05 -0000 At 11:25 PM -0700 8/6/03, David O'Brien wrote: >Am I the only one that saw 'make world' go from almost 3 hours >with GCC 3.2 to: [...] 11h 17.00s real > 9h29m 42.85s user > 1h15m 22.05s sys > >post GCC 3.3? I'm not complete done yet, but here is my observation: Back on July 6th, I did a 'time make -j2 buildworld' on my Ultra-10. Let's call that build #1. Last night, I did the same command (after cvsup-ing my source tree). I started that build on the very 'world' installed on July 6th. Let's call this build #2. Build #1 Build #2 ------------ ------------ real 347m 33.407s 387m 4.205s user 283m 0.162s 315m 25.441s sys 53m 45.805s 59m 44.648s So, yes, that's a little slower. It isn't horrendous, though. And there is a good chance that some of that slowdown is due to non-gcc factors, such as building /rescue (which was not being built in July). I then installed that 'world'. After installing that world, I removed /usr/obj/usr/src/*, I did *not* cvsup, and I built the exact same world again. This is build #3. Note that I am sure I had also removed /usr/obj/usr/src/* before build #2, and it is pretty likely that I did before I started build #1, too. As I write this message, build #3 has been running for over fourteen hours, and based on the logfile size I would say it isa less than 6/7th's of the way through. So, apparently the problem is something a bit more subtle than just gcc 3.3 being slower to compile than gcc 3.2. Apparently the August 9th system is a lot slower at *running* than the early system. Do we have some other benchmarks we could run? I would also note that the CPU seems pinned at 0% idle, and I do not believe that used to be the case when I was doing a 'make -j2 buildworld' on this system. By "pinned" I mean every single update of 'top' for the past 20 minutes has showed 0.0% idle. At no time has it been even 0.1% idle. This reminds me of how my older i386 box used to run when WITNESS was turned on in the early days of 5.x-current! My kernel config is almost exactly GENERIC, except that I turn off WITNESS* and SMP. The machine is not swapping at all (it has 384 meg of RAM, it does not have X11, and really the only thing it's doing is the buildworld). I'm not sure what else to say which might be of some help. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 01:40:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE55837B401; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-107-97.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.107.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273BB43FDF; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861FC66D74; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5362F692; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:40:19 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Garance A Drosihn Message-ID: <20030809084019.GA4704@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:40:21 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 04:24:01AM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > So, apparently the problem is something a bit more subtle than > just gcc 3.3 being slower to compile than gcc 3.2. Apparently > the August 9th system is a lot slower at *running* than the > early system. Do we have some other benchmarks we could run? This suggests that something might have been pessimized with the gcc 3.3 code generation on sparc. i.e. when gcc 3.3 is built with gcc 3.2 (your build 2, which used the installed 3.2 compiler to build the 3.3 compiler that was then used for the remainder of the world build), it performs well (your build 2), but when gcc 3.3 is built with gcc 3.3 it performs slowly. I wonder if the gcc 3.3 compiler specs were set up incorrectly for sparc. Kris --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/NLNzWry0BWjoQKURAgdfAJ9pbTDBJEM70R9RbfNPEvP8/Xh2WwCgtKI9 xeqtAfML0QGGvH4XWC9GhJQ= =56X+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 16:55:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C317937B401 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 16:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC34D43FA3 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 16:55:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h79NtYQX056562; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 16:55:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h79NtXmM056561; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 16:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 16:55:33 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20030809235533.GA56513@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030809084019.GA4704@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030809084019.GA4704@rot13.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:55:39 -0000 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 01:40:19AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > This suggests that something might have been pessimized with the gcc > 3.3 code generation on sparc. i.e. when gcc 3.3 is built with gcc 3.2 > (your build 2, which used the installed 3.2 compiler to build the 3.3 > compiler that was then used for the remainder of the world build), it > performs well (your build 2), but when gcc 3.3 is built with gcc 3.3 > it performs slowly. > > I wonder if the gcc 3.3 compiler specs were set up incorrectly for > sparc. I can think of nothing in the sparc MD compiler specs that could account for this. Mostly things there are in the "work / doesn't work" category. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 17:20:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB66337B401 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 17:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCD743F75 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 17:20:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: from blues.seekingfire.prv (blues.seekingfire.prv [192.168.23.211]) by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1711D8B for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:20:27 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tillman@localhost) by blues.seekingfire.prv (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h7A0KQU22209 for sparc64@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:20:26 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:20:26 -0600 From: Tillman To: sparc64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030809182026.W16062@seekingfire.com> References: <20030807062536.GA68747@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030809084019.GA4704@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030809235533.GA56513@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030809235533.GA56513@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 04:55:33PM -0700 X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers Subject: Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3... X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:20:29 -0000 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 04:55:33PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 01:40:19AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > This suggests that something might have been pessimized with the gcc > > 3.3 code generation on sparc. i.e. when gcc 3.3 is built with gcc 3.2 > > (your build 2, which used the installed 3.2 compiler to build the 3.3 > > compiler that was then used for the remainder of the world build), it > > performs well (your build 2), but when gcc 3.3 is built with gcc 3.3 > > it performs slowly. > > > > I wonder if the gcc 3.3 compiler specs were set up incorrectly for > > sparc. > > I can think of nothing in the sparc MD compiler specs that could account > for this. Mostly things there are in the "work / doesn't work" category. Is there some kind of profiling that I could perform during a buildworld that might be helpful? -T -- Humans hardly ever learn from the experience of others. They learn - when they do, which isn't often - on their own, the hard way. - Robert Heinlein