From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 2:27:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4E637B401; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.sr.se [134.25.0.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA0043EB2; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:27:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@oldie.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se (honken.sr.se [134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0JARVjY086677; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:27:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@oldie.sr.se) Received: from oldie.sr.se (oldie [134.25.200.100]) by honken.sr.se (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0JARV1j015668; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:27:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@oldie.sr.se) Received: from oldie.sr.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oldie.sr.se (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0JARUxt098370; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:27:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@oldie.sr.se) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by oldie.sr.se (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0JARUns098369; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:27:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:27:30 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: Tim Vanderhoek Cc: Richard , Eugene , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: readmes Message-ID: <20030119102730.GA98356@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , Tim Vanderhoek , Richard , Eugene , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org References: <20030116123702.GA98828@emetex.ru> <20030116164448.C28170@mail.unixguru.nl> <20030118205428.GA57840@turquoise> <20030118213827.GA94870@sr.se> <20030118175005.A25165@p23.ecf> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20030118175005.A25165@p23.ecf> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 05:50:05PM -0500, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 10:38:27PM +0100, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > >=20 > > Actually it seems more that some of the pors have huge "include's" > > as /usr/ports/devel/cdk as it includes the big maninfo.mk, or >=20 > It seems that I had a stale /usr/ports/ directory and that's why > I didn't get the error when I tried 'make readmes'. >=20 > Okay, here's the fix for bsd.port.mk. This is the same fix that I > used about 3 years ago for the do-package: target. >=20 > Here's another patch for portmgr to review _in addition to_ the one > in the previous email for bsd.port.subdir.mk. >=20 > Please let me know if you see any more problems. Thanks, The patch works like a charm! >=20 >=20 > --- /usr/ports/Mk/~bsd.port.mk Sat Jan 18 17:38:53 2003 > +++ /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk Sat Jan 18 17:43:34 2003 > @@ -3607,24 +3607,25 @@ > .if !target(readme) > readme: > @rm -f ${.CURDIR}/README.html > @cd ${.CURDIR} && ${MAKE} ${__softMAKEFLAGS} ${.CURDIR}/README.html > .endif > =20 > ${.CURDIR}/README.html: > @${ECHO_MSG} "=3D=3D=3D> Creating README.html for ${PKGNAME}" > - @${CAT} ${TEMPLATES}/README.port | \ > + @__softMAKEFLAGS=3D'${__softMAKEFLAGS:S/'/'\''/g}'; \ > + ${CAT} ${TEMPLATES}/README.port | \ > ${SED} -e 's=01%%PORT%%=01'`${ECHO_CMD} ${.CURDIR} | ${SED} -e 's=02.*= /\([^/]*/[^/]*\)$$=02\1=02'`'=01g' \ > -e 's=01%%PKG%%=01${PKGNAME}=01g' \ > -e '/%%COMMENT%%/r${COMMENT}' \ > -e '/%%COMMENT%%/d' \ > -e 's=01%%DESCR%%=01'"`${ECHO_CMD} ${DESCR} | ${SED} -e 's=02${.CURDI= R}/=02=02'`"'=01' \ > - -e 's=01%%BUILD_DEPENDS%%=01'"`cd ${.CURDIR} && ${MAKE} ${__softMAKEF= LAGS} pretty-print-build-depends-list`"'=01' \ > - -e 's=01%%RUN_DEPENDS%%=01'"`cd ${.CURDIR} && ${MAKE} ${__softMAKEFLA= GS} pretty-print-run-depends-list`"'=01' \ > + -e 's=01%%BUILD_DEPENDS%%=01'"`cd ${.CURDIR} && eval ${MAKE} $${__sof= tMAKEFLAGS} pretty-print-build-depends-list`"'=01' \ > + -e 's=01%%RUN_DEPENDS%%=01'"`cd ${.CURDIR} && eval ${MAKE} $${__softM= AKEFLAGS} pretty-print-run-depends-list`"'=01' \ > -e 's=01%%TOP%%=01'"`${ECHO_CMD} ${CATEGORIES} | ${SED} -e 'sa .*aa' = -e 'sa[^/]*a..ag'`"'/..=01' \ > >> $@ > =20 > # The following two targets require an up-to-date INDEX in ${PORTSDIR} > =20 > .if !target(pretty-print-build-depends-list) > pretty-print-build-depends-list: > .if defined(FETCH_DEPENDS) || defined(BUILD_DEPENDS) || \ >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > If I could think of a two-line witty aphorism for you to remember > me by, this would definitely be it. --=20 Gunnar Flygt, Postmaster SR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 3:35:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5215237B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 03:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA3143ED8 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 03:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0JBZ3TJ067435; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:35:03 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:35:03 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: MArek Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: GNU and make world In-Reply-To: <1282496469.20030119012525@enter.net.pl> Message-ID: <20030119142640.R67027@woozle.rinet.ru> References: <1162276713.20030119001911@enter.net.pl> <20030119022942.Y46739@woozle.rinet.ru> <1282496469.20030119012525@enter.net.pl> X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, MArek wrote: M> M>> What option in my /etc/make.conf file should I specify I want to avoid M> M>> building GNU informations. M> M> DM> #NOINFO= true # do not make or install info files M> M> I used it, didnd fix anything.... You have to restove src/gnu part, see below... M> M>> I specified src/gnu in my refuse file , but during the make buildworld M> M>> an error occurs that src/gnu is not avialable... I think M> M> DM> Yes, because you'd effectively disable downloading/tracking sources for large M> DM> part of the base system, including gcc, gdb, perl, some libraries, tar, etc.... M> DM> ;-) M> M> M> well, I am the begginer...so GNU is not only some documentation? M> I thought it is only some text.... Nope ;-) You meant GNU Info, which is only one of GNU-produced modules included/used in FreeBSD. src/gnu exists mainly to differentiate parts of the system with different licenses: if you read carefully, you'll see GPL much more restrictive than BSD license... OTOH, actual non-BSD developed sources lie under src/contrib, not under src/gnu... M> thx for help...so the one think to fix the problem is to receive GNU? actually, for now the only collections you can safely excude are: src-games src-kerberos5 src-kerberosIV src-release src-tools src-eBones ... and, FWIW, they will *not* occupy too much space on one's HD, so I usually simply do cvsup cvs-all. M> could you explain me one thing: when I cvsup sources and I specifu M> prefix in /usr so the files goes to the /usr/src ? M> and then, from the /usr/src make buildworld and install world compiles M> and copies it to the e.g. /usr/bin ? Right. It makes all bits under /usr/obj, and then, during installworld, install them as appropriate (/{s,}bin, /usr/{s,}bin /usr/lib etc, etc) Have a nice stable! ;-) Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, DM268-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 5:42:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C7337B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 05:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.iskon.hr (inje.iskon.hr [213.191.128.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B06043F79 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 05:42:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: (qmail 29928 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 14:41:54 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO flatline) (213.191.147.30) by mail.iskon.hr with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 14:41:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> From: "Ivan Voras" To: Subject: gcc -kthread Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:42:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gcc man page mentions two threading options: -pthread and -kthread. I needed to write a simple multithreaded program, and since it seems that -kthread would be a much better choice, I tried using it. But gcc complains that it doesn't know about such option: > gcc test.cpp -kthread gcc: unrecognized option `-kthread' [... many unresolved symbols ...] > which gcc /usr/bin/gcc > uname -v FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #4: Tue Dec 3 20:27:14 CET 2002 ... It works fine with -pthread. Another question: are -pthread and -kthread interchangeable regarding to compile&link process? -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they can make your life miserable by doing nothing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 6:44:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBC237B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 06:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr (postfix4-2.free.fr [213.228.0.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1D143EB2 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 06:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thierry@pompo.net) Received: from graf.pompo.net (lyon-4-a7-62-147-48-219.dial.proxad.net [62.147.48.219]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF614C0B3 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:44:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by graf.pompo.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 39978750D; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:42:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:42:33 +0100 From: Thierry Thomas To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Message-ID: <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 Organization: Kabbale Eros X-Face: (hRbQnK~Pt7$ct`!fupO(`y_WL4^-Iwn4@ly-.,[4xC4xc;y=\ipKMNm<1J>lv@PP~7Z<.t KjAnXLs: X-PGP: 0xC71405A2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le Dim 19 jan 03 à 14:42:02 +0100, Ivan Voras écrivait : > Another question: are -pthread and -kthread interchangeable regarding to > compile&link process? There exists a FAQ: . -- Th. Thomas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 7:34:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FC537B40B for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.iskon.hr (inje.iskon.hr [213.191.128.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DBAA43F43 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:34:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: (qmail 24882 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2003 16:34:13 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO flatline) (213.191.147.30) by mail.iskon.hr with SMTP; 19 Jan 2003 16:34:13 +0100 Message-ID: <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> From: "Ivan Voras" To: References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:34:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thierry Thomas wrote: >> Le Dim 19 jan 03 à 14:42:02 +0100, Ivan Voras écrivait : >>> Another question: are -pthread and -kthread interchangeable regarding to >>> compile&link process? >> >> There exists a FAQ: . Thank you, it has been helpful, but I have a feeling it's somewhat outdated (references FreeBSD 4.0). (Also, there is no mention of -kthread switch.) Is there any other FreeBSD-specific documentation on this subject? -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they can make your life miserable by doing nothing. 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Bezoek onze site: http://www.firstseconds.nl Met vriendelijke groet, First Seconds To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 9: 3:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA74A37B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from jangada.softinfo.com.br (BA000200.user.veloxzone.com.br [200.164.0.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC4A43EB2 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vitor@softinfo.com.br) Received: from acaraje (acaraje.softinfo.com.br [192.168.10.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by jangada.softinfo.com.br (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0JH3QBg007493 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:03:26 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from vitor@softinfo.com.br) Message-ID: <002601c2bfdc$aeaa1e50$020aa8c0@acaraje> Reply-To: "Vitor de Matos Carvalho" From: "Vitor de Matos Carvalho" To: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: 5.0-STABLE ??? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:03:26 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi :)) When will be created branch RELENG_5? After announce of the 5.1-RELEASE? Regards, Vitor de Matos Carvalho System Network Administrator - Softinfo Network FreeBSD - The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 9:58:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F4537B405 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from unixlab.dk (mail98.scannet.dk [194.255.126.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71CF43F3F for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 09:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cure@nerdheaven.dk) Received: from localhost [130.225.2.175] by unixlab.dk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A73FB6F00B4; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:58:23 +0100 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:59:09 +0100 From: Morten Boenloekke Post To: "Vitor de Matos Carvalho" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? Message-Id: <20030119185909.0c67370d.cure@nerdheaven.dk> In-Reply-To: <002601c2bfdc$aeaa1e50$020aa8c0@acaraje> References: <002601c2bfdc$aeaa1e50$020aa8c0@acaraje> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.8 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:03:26 -0200 "Vitor de Matos Carvalho" wrote: > Hi :)) > > When will be created branch RELENG_5? After announce of the > 5.1-RELEASE? Therefore, the release engineering team will only create the 5-STABLE branch in the CVS repository after they have found a relatively stable state to use as its basis. It is likely that there will be multiple releases in the 5.X series before this happens; we estimate that the 5-STABLE branch will be created sometime after 5.1-RELEASE or 5.2-RELEASE. Taken from the early-adaptor's guide to FreeBSD. Cheers, M. -- UNIX is to computer science what Shakespeare is to english. Morten Boenloekke Post To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 10:10:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B643537B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB6243EB2 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:10:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from veldy.net (veldy-host33.dsl.visi.com [209.98.200.33]) by conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732FC8115; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:10:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from cascade (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.1.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 67BA25529; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:10:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <016201c2bfe6$15c8f530$0101a8c0@cascade> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Morten Boenloekke Post" , "Vitor de Matos Carvalho" Cc: References: <002601c2bfdc$aeaa1e50$020aa8c0@acaraje> <20030119185909.0c67370d.cure@nerdheaven.dk> Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:10:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The only problem I see with this is that anybody following this particular RELEASE has to follow CURRENT, which is almost a contradiction of terms. Tom Veldhouse > > Therefore, the release engineering team will only create the 5-STABLE > branch in the CVS repository after they have found a relatively stable > state to use as its basis. It is likely that there will be multiple > releases in the 5.X series before this happens; we estimate that the > 5-STABLE branch will be created sometime after 5.1-RELEASE or > 5.2-RELEASE. > > Taken from the early-adaptor's guide to FreeBSD. > > Cheers, M. > > -- > UNIX is to computer science what Shakespeare is to english. > Morten Boenloekke Post > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 10:33:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C17137B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CB643F13 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0JIXndK026662 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:33:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0JIXnVo026661; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:33:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:33:49 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200301191833.h0JIXnVo026661@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? In-Reply-To: <016201c2bfe6$15c8f530$0101a8c0@cascade> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.7-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > The only problem I see with this is that anybody following this particular > RELEASE has to follow CURRENT, which is almost a contradiction of terms. Not necessarily. There's a RELENG_5_0 branch. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 11:26:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BD637B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C4943EB2 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:26:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from veldy.net (veldy-host33.dsl.visi.com [209.98.200.33]) by conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FB0815F for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:26:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from cascade (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.1.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C4B375697 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:26:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <017801c2bff0$9efd1e80$0101a8c0@cascade> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: References: <200301191833.h0JIXnVo026661@lurza.secnetix.de> Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:26:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A branch or a tag? I don't believe it was branched. Tom Veldhouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Fromme" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? > Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > The only problem I see with this is that anybody following this particular > > RELEASE has to follow CURRENT, which is almost a contradiction of terms. > > Not necessarily. There's a RELENG_5_0 branch. > > Regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München > Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author > and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > > "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 14:29:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A2137B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4429B43EB2 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:29:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10838; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:29:08 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18079; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:29:07 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200301192229.JAA18079@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: weird math in dump(8) In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:31:57 +0100. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:29:07 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > DUMP: 101.44% done, finished in 0:-1 Id' bet that's caused by activity on the FS between when dump starts (and makes it's estimate of how much to dump) and it finishes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 15: 9: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9281B37B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-106-179.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.106.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FEA43E4A for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:09:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9570C66B60; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 72F5C1627; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:09:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:09:01 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ivan Voras Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Message-ID: <20030119230901.GA89120@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 04:34:04PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: > Thierry Thomas wrote: > >> Le Dim 19 jan 03 ? 14:42:02 +0100, Ivan Voras ?crivait= : > >>> Another question: are -pthread and -kthread interchangeable regarding= to > >>> compile&link process? > >> > >> There exists a FAQ: . >=20 > Thank you, it has been helpful, but I have a feeling it's somewhat outdat= ed > (references FreeBSD 4.0). (Also, there is no mention of -kthread switch.)= Is > there any other FreeBSD-specific documentation on this subject? -kthread is not supported. Kris --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+KzANWry0BWjoQKURAuK9AKD5UJwWnDiD1jpJlVLxpkkFymIE2ACfcrEO /2pBKY7EehClBgNxEYjD/qY= =0zcy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 15:36:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9F937B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:36:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C46343F13 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:36:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0JNamdK036786 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:36:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0JNam2r036785; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:36:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:36:48 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200301192336.h0JNam2r036785@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? In-Reply-To: <017801c2bff0$9efd1e80$0101a8c0@cascade> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.7-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > A branch or a tag? I don't believe it was branched. A branch. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 16:37:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B82937B401; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from emerald.crystal.com.au (emerald.crystal.com.au [203.21.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9228643ED8; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:37:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shaun@crystal.com.au) Received: from crystal.com.au ([202.165.76.30]) by emerald.crystal.com.au (8.12.0.Beta19/8.12.0.Beta19) with ESMTP id h0K0dBVw005916; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:39:12 +0800 Message-ID: <3E2B4432.3080705@crystal.com.au> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:34:58 +0800 From: Shaun Dwyer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lanny Baron Cc: Soeren Schmidt , Keith Mitchell , "randall s. ehren" , freebsd-hardware , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA problems (still) References: <200301151238.h0FCcD5e025929@spider.deepcore.dk> <1042677925.19537.42.camel@panda.FreeBSDsystems.COM> In-Reply-To: <1042677925.19537.42.camel@panda.FreeBSDsystems.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all... This might be completely un-related... I have a box with 6 WD 80Gb BB series drives on a 3ware Escalade raid controller doing raid 5. Every now and then a drives seem to drop from the array for no reason. Its always a different drive, on a different port. Mabye the later WD drives have some issues. Perhaps overly aggressive timing? --Shaun Lanny Baron wrote: > Hi, > For what it's worth here is some info we rely on. In Servers, most wd > hard drives will -not- run and in some cases, not even be seen by > FreeBSD with our systems.When speaking to Engineers in Oregon, they have > simply said to stay away from them with Servers. Most Intel Server > boards are picky with hardware and, when using the correct combination > of hardware, run flawlessly. > > Of course, it is not in my right, nor am I suggesting that anyone not > use Western Digital. But, I did test it out some time ago and lo and > behold, it was true. > Below is an example from one of our Server Board's tested and passed > list of hdds (ata and scsi). Note there are no WD drives. > > > Manufacturer Model Number Product Family Interface RPM > > IBM* IC35L120AVVA07 Deskstar ATA 7,200 123 1, 2, 3, 4 > Maxtor* 4G160J8 Neptune D540DX ATA 5,400 160 1, 2, 3, 4 > Maxtor MX 6L080J4 Viper D740-6L ATA 7,200 80 1, 2, 3, 4 > Maxtor KU73J01703B Atlas III SCA-320 10,000 73 1, 2, 3, 4 > Maxtor KW18J01E-030Z Atlas III SCA-160 10,000 18 1, 2, 3, 4 > Samsung* SP4004H ATA100 SpinPoint P20 ATA 7,200 40 1, 2, 3, 4 > Seagate* ST318406LC Cheetah 36ES U160 10,000 18 1, 2, 3, 4 > Seagate ST318406LC Cheetah 36ES U160 10,000 18 1, 2, 3, 4 > Seagate ST380021A Barracuda 4 ATA 7,200 80 1, 2, 3, 4 > > Regards, > Lanny > > On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 07:38, Soeren Schmidt wrote: > >>It seems Keith Mitchell wrote: >> >>>I just tried swapping one of the seagate drives with the WD ATA6 drive >>>so that the WD was aatached to the same motherboard and cable where the >>>segate was happily working and the segate was attached to the same >>>motherboard and cable where the WD wasn't happily working. >>> >>>And the result was the same... the seagte is still happily working and >>>the WD drive is crashing the same as it was before. >> >>Hmm so the conclusion seems to be that the WD drive has problems, since >>we know the controller works and other large drives works. >>I have no idea why it would fail, could be subtle timing I guess ... >> >>If I win the lottery I'll buy one and hack at it :) >> >>-Søren >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 18:14:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B388937B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:14:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.iskon.hr (inje.iskon.hr [213.191.128.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2450B43ED8 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:14:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: (qmail 14572 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 03:14:06 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO flatline) (213.191.147.30) by mail.iskon.hr with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 03:14:06 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c2c029$a0063a30$e602a8c0@shara.net> From: "Ivan Voras" To: References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119230901.GA89120@rot13.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 03:14:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Kennaway" To: "Ivan Voras" >-kthread is not supported. Shouldn't it be removed from the gcc man page then? (just curious: has it ever worked, and why was it removed?) -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they can make your life miserable by doing nothing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 18:37:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B3337B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1F243E4A for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:37:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from veldy.net (veldy-host33.dsl.visi.com [209.98.200.33]) by conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF82D8120 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:37:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from cascade (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.1.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C7BE56DC for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:37:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <01ad01c2c02c$e84eaf40$0101a8c0@cascade> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: References: <200301192336.h0JNam2r036785@lurza.secnetix.de> Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:37:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It doesn't look that way to me: "Features are only added to the 4-STABLE development branch after a ``settling time'' in -CURRENT. FreeBSD 5.0 does not have the stabilizing influence of a -STABLE branch. (It is likely that the 5-STABLE development branch will be created sometime after 5.1-RELEASE or 5.2-RELEASE.)" and "Because FreeBSD 5.0 is the first release from the CURRENT branch in over two years, many of its features are seeing wide exposure for the first time. Many of these features (such as SMPng) have broad impacts on the kernel." Looks like it will not be branched from current for at least 3 to 6 months. Tom Veldhouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Fromme" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? > Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > A branch or a tag? I don't believe it was branched. > > A branch. > > Regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München > Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author > and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > > "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 19:27:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5624B37B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF5243F3F for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:27:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glennpj@charter.net) Received: from [24.158.214.251] (HELO gforce.johnson.home) by dc-mx11.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 27380639; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:27:06 -0500 Received: from gforce.johnson.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gforce.johnson.home (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0K3R054054339; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:27:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from glenn@gforce.johnson.home) Received: (from glenn@localhost) by gforce.johnson.home (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0K3Qxm3054338; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:26:59 -0600 (CST) From: Glenn Johnson Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:26:59 -0600 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? Message-ID: <20030120032658.GA35779@gforce.johnson.home> Mail-Followup-To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200301192336.h0JNam2r036785@lurza.secnetix.de> <01ad01c2c02c$e84eaf40$0101a8c0@cascade> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01ad01c2c02c$e84eaf40$0101a8c0@cascade> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 08:37:42PM -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > It doesn't look that way to me: > > "Features are only added to the 4-STABLE development branch after > a ``settling time'' in -CURRENT. FreeBSD 5.0 does not have the > stabilizing influence of a -STABLE branch. (It is likely that the > 5-STABLE development branch will be created sometime after 5.1-RELEASE > or 5.2-RELEASE.)" > > and > > "Because FreeBSD 5.0 is the first release from the CURRENT branch in > over two years, many of its features are seeing wide exposure for the > first time. Many of these features (such as SMPng) have broad impacts > on the kernel." > > Looks like it will not be branched from current for at least 3 to 6 > months. So if one decides to make the jump to 5.0 and wants to track development, should -CURRENT be tracked or RELENG_5_0? Thanks. -- Glenn Johnson glennpj@charter.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 21:24:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B597E37B405 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.merchantsbarter.com (server.merchantsbarter.com [198.78.66.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5236543E4A for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:24:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damien@tougas.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (me-lewiston-pw-835.mint.adelphia.net [216.227.167.76]) by server.merchantsbarter.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D0AD49 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:24:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:32:42 -0500 From: Damien Tougas To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with FreeBSD-5.0 and comms/ltmdm Message-ID: <2970000.1043040762@buddy.tougas.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am running FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE on my laptop and just tried installing the comms/ltmdm port for my Lucent Winmodem. The port builds and installs without any problems, and when I reboot, the kernel module loads and detects the modem. However, if I try to initiate any kind of network activity (i.e. ping another machine) over my ethernet interface (a 3COM pcmcia ethernet card using the ep driver), the OS locks up instantly. There are no panics, error messages, or anything, all I can do is hard boot. As soon as I uninstall the port, the problem goes away. Any suggestions? Is there more information I can give that would be helpful to solving this problem? Please respond to me directly, as I am not subscribed to this list. Thank you. -- Damien Tougas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 22:23:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A5537B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-relay.omnis.com (smtp-relay.omnis.com [216.239.128.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A5843ED8 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:23:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (dslpool3-015.networldnoc.net [209.63.227.207]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BC74326B; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:22:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? From: Wes Peters To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <017801c2bff0$9efd1e80$0101a8c0@cascade> References: <200301191833.h0JIXnVo026661@lurza.secnetix.de> <017801c2bff0$9efd1e80$0101a8c0@cascade> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <1043018475.2850.325.camel@zaphod.softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 19 Jan 2003 23:21:16 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 19:26, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > A branch or a tag? I don't believe it was branched. Each release is branched; this has been standard operating procedure in -stable for quite some time now. This allows us to make bug/security fix releases like 4.6.2 when necessary. The RELENG_5_0 branch will be there for those who can run 5.0 in a semi-production environment; critical issues will be fixed on that branch. -CURRENT will of course remain under active development. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 19 23:23: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E075337B401 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 23:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.giovannelli.com (freebsd.giovannelli.com [194.184.65.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8986143F1E for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 23:23:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from usul.giovannelli.it (usul.giovannelli.com [10.254.254.4]) by freebsd.giovannelli.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0K7NIlw011626 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:23:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030120082015.0493feb8@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.4 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:23:31 +0100 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: ata hangs with sis5513 controller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi again, Sometime ago I wrote this message but I got no reply. Now I have tested also the 5.0-RELEASE and it continues panicing during boot. I am ready to help and test if someone wants, otherwhise I'll return this mobo for exchange. Thanks for attention. I'll repost the old message ... ---> begin <--- Hi, I was not able to install and/or run any FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE (very recent) on the controller in the subj. Linux Mandrake 9.0 happily can use it: SIS5513: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 15 SIS5513: chipset revision 0 SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later SiS5513 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hda: MAXTOR 4K040H2, ATA DISK drive hdb: ST320413A, ATA DISK drive hdc: CD-ROM Drive/F5E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: 78198750 sectors (40038 MB) w/2000KiB Cache, CHS=4867/255/63 hdb: 39102336 sectors (20020 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=2434/255/63 RH 8.0 hangs too and reported to be a sis646. The mobo link is this: http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/pd_spec.asp?product_id=39 P.s. 5.0-RC2 just panics ... Any hints. I can helping in tracing and debug if any needs (explain step by step :-) ... Thanks for everyone... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.gufi.org/~gmarco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 0:23:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E7837B4A5 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-106-179.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.106.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B301343EB2 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:23:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6956566B60; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4DDFB1622; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:23:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:23:39 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ivan Voras Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Message-ID: <20030120082339.GC92001@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119230901.GA89120@rot13.obsecurity.org> <002601c2c029$a0063a30$e602a8c0@shara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002601c2c029$a0063a30$e602a8c0@shara.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:14:10AM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: > >-kthread is not supported. >=20 > Shouldn't it be removed from the gcc man page then? Probably. Submit a PR. > (just curious: has it ever worked, and why was it removed?) No. An improved (relative to other OSes) kernel threading system is being developed in the 5.0 branch ("KSE"). Kris --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+K7ILWry0BWjoQKURAnETAJ44k8sm3rsDPys/Vifivsj64+HAXQCg/P6Q Kw7DCusfPQZEz8QKn2ajMtU= =a/ve -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 0:26:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F3B37B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn12.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239F143EB2 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:26:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leafy@leafy.idv.tw) Received: from [211.74.18.39] (port=51106 helo=leafy.idv.tw) by seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet 4.10:3) id 18aXGV-000B9w-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:26:43 +0800 Received: from leafy.idv.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leafy.idv.tw (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0K8QgB2031382 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:26:42 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from leafy@leafy.idv.tw) Received: (from leafy@localhost) by leafy.idv.tw (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0K8QfPF031381 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:26:41 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:26:41 +0800 From: leafy To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Message-ID: <20030120082641.GA31370@leafy.idv.tw> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119230901.GA89120@rot13.obsecurity.org> <002601c2c029$a0063a30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030120082339.GC92001@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030120082339.GC92001@rot13.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:23:39AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > (just curious: has it ever worked, and why was it removed?) > > No. An improved (relative to other OSes) kernel threading system is > being developed in the 5.0 branch ("KSE"). > > Kris Since you brought this up(*grin*), how different is KSE to NetBSD's new thread activation scheme? The FreeBSD KSE page does not say much about the implementation details. Sincerely, leafy -- "Without the userland, the kernel is useless." --inspired by The Tao of Programming To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 0:44:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3ED37B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-106-179.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.106.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3085643EB2 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:44:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D393666B60; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADB371622; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:44:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:44:28 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: leafy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Message-ID: <20030120084428.GA92282@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119230901.GA89120@rot13.obsecurity.org> <002601c2c029$a0063a30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030120082339.GC92001@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030120082641.GA31370@leafy.idv.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030120082641.GA31370@leafy.idv.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 04:26:41PM +0800, leafy wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:23:39AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > (just curious: has it ever worked, and why was it removed?) > >=20 > > No. An improved (relative to other OSes) kernel threading system is > > being developed in the 5.0 branch ("KSE"). > >=20 > > Kris > > Since you brought this up(*grin*), how different is KSE to NetBSD's > new thread activation scheme? The FreeBSD KSE page does not say much > about the implementation details. I believe the NetBSD scheme is a faithful implementation of the original Scheduler Activation paper. KSE is a bit different, though broadly similar (based on SA)..there is a design paper floating around somewhere, which is a bit out of date. Kris --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+K7bsWry0BWjoQKURApTWAKDt8gBxeLZF0m2PZso4djGPheiR7wCePhxn 7SJ5btYEt2MqzxAclBTpgWQ= =3+B0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 5:30:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75C937B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h76n3fls20o913.telia.com [213.67.148.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B061A43EB2 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 05:30:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erikt@falcon.midgard.homeip.net) Received: (qmail 80769 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Jan 2003 13:30:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:30:29 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ata hangs with sis5513 controller Message-ID: <20030120133029.GA80713@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Gianmarco Giovannelli , stable@freebsd.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030120082015.0493feb8@194.184.65.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030120082015.0493feb8@194.184.65.4> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:23:31AM +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > Hi again, > Sometime ago I wrote this message but I got no reply. Now I have tested > also the 5.0-RELEASE and it continues panicing during boot. > I am ready to help and test if someone wants, otherwhise I'll return this > mobo for exchange. I can't really help, but I have got one comment to make. It is not a SiS 5513 controller you have. It is some other, more modern, SiS controller that is (supposed to be) backwards compatible with the original 5513. If you did manage to get FreeBSD installed, it would probably report the controller as a SiS 5591 (which is an early 5513 derivative, and which FreeBSD reports all the 5513 derivatives as.) If you get a panic from FreeBSD it might be useful to know the exact panic message. (I won't be helped, but one of the kernel hackers might get an idea.) > > Thanks for attention. I'll repost the old message ... > > ---> begin <--- > > Hi, > I was not able to install and/or run any FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE (very recent) > on the controller in the subj. > Linux Mandrake 9.0 happily can use it: > > SIS5513: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 15 > SIS5513: chipset revision 0 > SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later > SiS5513 > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA > ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA > hda: MAXTOR 4K040H2, ATA DISK drive > hdb: ST320413A, ATA DISK drive > hdc: CD-ROM Drive/F5E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive > hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive > ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 > ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 > hda: 78198750 sectors (40038 MB) w/2000KiB Cache, CHS=4867/255/63 > hdb: 39102336 sectors (20020 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=2434/255/63 > > RH 8.0 hangs too and reported to be a sis646. > > The mobo link is this: > http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/pd_spec.asp?product_id=39 > > P.s. > 5.0-RC2 just panics ... > > > Any hints. I can helping in tracing and debug if any needs (explain step by > step :-) ... > > Thanks for everyone... -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 6:44:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E620A37B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 06:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.giovannelli.it (kirk.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDE843EB2 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 06:44:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@ablia.com) Received: from gimbo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.giovannelli.it (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0KEi1kZ083583; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:44:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmarco@ablia.com) From: "Gianmarco Giovannelli" To: "Andrew H. Derbyshire" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ata hangs with sis5513 controller Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:44:01 +0200 Message-Id: <20030120144401.M71232@ablia.com> In-Reply-To: <007201c2c07f$4531b3e0$94cba8c0@xena> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030120082015.0493feb8@194.184.65.4> <007201c2c07f$4531b3e0$94cba8c0@xena> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 1.71 20020827 X-OriginatingIP: 213.26.243.211 (gmarco) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.1(snapshot 20020109) (kirk.giovannelli.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:27:17 -0500, Andrew H. Derbyshire wrote > Post it to -current, not -stable. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gianmarco Giovannelli" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:23 AM > Subject: ata hangs with sis5513 controller > > > Hi again, > > Sometime ago I wrote this message but I got no reply. Now I have tested > > also the 5.0-RELEASE and it continues panicing during boot. > > I am ready to help and test if someone wants, otherwhise I'll return this > > mobo for exchange. > > > > Thanks for attention. I'll repost the old message ... > > > > ---> begin <--- > > > > Hi, > > I was not able to install and/or run any FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE (very recent) > > on the controller in the subj. It was indeed for the first report related to -stable (4.7-STABLE as you can see). If needed I can cross post to -current and -hackers too Thanks for your reply. -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 8:40:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF0037B406 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mhub-m2.tc.umn.edu (mhub-m2.tc.umn.edu [160.94.23.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CBB43F6D for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kwythers@umn.edu) Received: from [128.101.74.47] (x74-47.forestry.umn.edu [128.101.74.47]) by mhub-m2.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:40:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: upgrading from STABLE to 5.0 From: "Kirk R. Wythers" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 20 Jan 2003 10:40:06 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] x74-47.forestry.umn.edu #+LO+TR Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've go a couple of questions regarding updating to 5.0. I've cvsuped using *default tag=RELENG_5_0. Now its time to do the dirty work. 1) I see a line in the UPDATING file that says: make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE should 'YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' be just the name of my kernel (in my case LORAXKERNEL) or the compete path to that kernel (from uname -a: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LORAXKERNEL)? 2) is point [8] 'In order to have a kernel that can run the 4.x binaries needed to do an installworld, you must include the COMPAT_FREEBSD4 option in your kernel. Failure to do so may leave you with a system that is hard to boot to recover.' only in reference to those who track CURRENT? I am a little unclear as to the distinction between STABLE and CURRRENT with this release... Thanks, Kirk -- Kirk R. Wythers email: kwythers@umn.edu University of Minnesota tel: 612.625.2261 Department of Forest Resources fax: 612.625.5212 Saint Paul, MN 55108 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 10:15:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5AA37B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B56943ED8 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:15:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olive@oban.frmug.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.11.3/8.11.3/frmug-2.7/nospam) with UUCP id h0KIF5445785 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:15:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olive@oban.frmug.org) Received: by weirdos.oban.frmug.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 1A5438C0D; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:11:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:11:36 +0100 From: Olivier Tharan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading from STABLE to 5.0 Message-ID: <20030120181136.GU54730@weirdos.oban.frmug.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> X-Attribution: Olive Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Kirk R. Wythers (20030120 10:40): > should 'YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' be just the name of my kernel (in my case > LORAXKERNEL) or the compete path to that kernel (from uname -a: > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LORAXKERNEL)? It is juste the name of your kernel: LORAXKERNEL. > 2) is point [8] 'In order to have a kernel that can run the 4.x binaries > needed to do an installworld, you must include the COMPAT_FREEBSD4 > option in your kernel. Failure to do so may leave you with a system > that is hard to boot to recover.' only in reference to those who track > CURRENT? I am a little unclear as to the distinction between STABLE and > CURRRENT with this release... You have to do this as well, because you are upgrading from RELENG_4 to RELENG_5; the binaries and libraries change. -- olive To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 10:44:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E764B37B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-224.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FCA43F3F for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:44:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0KIiX0L003121; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:44:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0KIiXUJ003120; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:44:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:44:33 -0800 From: David Schultz To: "Kirk R. Wythers" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading from STABLE to 5.0 Message-ID: <20030120184433.GB2778@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Kirk R. Wythers" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Kirk R. Wythers : > 2) is point [8] 'In order to have a kernel that can run the 4.x binaries > needed to do an installworld, you must include the COMPAT_FREEBSD4 > option in your kernel. Failure to do so may leave you with a system > that is hard to boot to recover.' only in reference to those who track > CURRENT? I am a little unclear as to the distinction between STABLE and > CURRRENT with this release... If you want to run binaries (e.g. ports) compiled for FreeBSD 4.X, you need the option. If you don't, then you can remove it. However, if you remove it, your old world may not work with the new kernel. Therefore, at least for the initial 4.X->5.0 upgrade, you should leave COMPAT_FREEBSD4 in the kernel config until you have installed a new world. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 11:12:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EF137B401; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from agena.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDD343F3F; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: from delta.meridian-enviro.com (delta.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.43]) by agena.meridian-enviro.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0KJCHf47066; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:12:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: (from rand@localhost) by delta.meridian-enviro.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h0KJCB3a074182; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:12:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) X-Authentication-Warning: delta.meridian-enviro.com: rand set sender to rand@meridian-enviro.com using -f To: Shaun Dwyer Cc: Lanny Baron , Soeren Schmidt , Keith Mitchell , "randall s. ehren" , freebsd-hardware , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA problems (still) References: <200301151238.h0FCcD5e025929@spider.deepcore.dk> <1042677925.19537.42.camel@panda.FreeBSDsystems.COM> <3E2B4432.3080705@crystal.com.au> From: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand) Date: 20 Jan 2003 13:12:10 -0600 In-Reply-To: <3E2B4432.3080705@crystal.com.au> Message-ID: <874r83zldh.fsf@delta.meridian-enviro.com> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shaun> Hi all... Hi! Shaun> I have a box with 6 WD 80Gb BB series drives on a 3ware Shaun> Escalade raid controller doing raid 5. Every now and then a Shaun> drives seem to drop from the array for no reason. Its always a Shaun> different drive, on a different port. Mabye the later WD drives Shaun> have some issues. Perhaps overly aggressive timing? We had very similiar problems with WD 100 GB (WD1000BB) disks on a 3ware controller. We'd get this error for no apparent reason: twe0: AEN: It turns out that there is some bios incompatability between the 3ware controller and these WD disks. Once I found the right person at 3ware and described my problem, he said that its the disks. We switched to IBM disks and the problem went away. I have NO IDEA if the problem is the same on the WD800BB disks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 11:19:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FB037B401; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from weenix.guru.org (weenix.guru.org [24.199.153.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F5E43E4A; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmitch@guru.org) Received: from guru.org (dhcp-64-102-83-151.cisco.com [64.102.83.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by weenix.guru.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FEEACABE; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:19:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E2C4BCD.7090604@guru.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:19:41 -0500 From: Keith Mitchell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Douglas K. Rand" Cc: Shaun Dwyer , Lanny Baron , Soeren Schmidt , "randall s. ehren" , freebsd-hardware , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA problems (still) References: <200301151238.h0FCcD5e025929@spider.deepcore.dk> <1042677925.19537.42.camel@panda.FreeBSDsystems.COM> <3E2B4432.3080705@crystal.com.au> <874r83zldh.fsf@delta.meridian-enviro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Douglas K. Rand wrote: >Shaun> Hi all... > >Hi! > >Shaun> I have a box with 6 WD 80Gb BB series drives on a 3ware >Shaun> Escalade raid controller doing raid 5. Every now and then a >Shaun> drives seem to drop from the array for no reason. Its always a >Shaun> different drive, on a different port. Mabye the later WD drives >Shaun> have some issues. Perhaps overly aggressive timing? > >We had very similiar problems with WD 100 GB (WD1000BB) disks on a >3ware controller. We'd get this error for no apparent reason: > > twe0: AEN: > >It turns out that there is some bios incompatability between the 3ware >controller and these WD disks. Once I found the right person at 3ware >and described my problem, he said that its the disks. We switched to >IBM disks and the problem went away. > >I have NO IDEA if the problem is the same on the WD800BB disks. > It sounds like it may be the same problem. Apparently at least several people have been having problems with the newer western digital drives. I just swapped mine out for a Maxtor and so far so good. My system has been up for three days without a problem. Hopefully that switch will get rid of that annoyance for me :-) -- Keith Mitchell Email: kmitch@guru.org PGP key available upon request To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 11:20: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552F437B401; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B07043EB2; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0KJKDfc089338; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:20:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030120141925.03f35e10@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:22:51 -0500 To: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand), Shaun Dwyer From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: ATA problems (still) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <874r83zldh.fsf@delta.meridian-enviro.com> References: <3E2B4432.3080705@crystal.com.au> <200301151238.h0FCcD5e025929@spider.deepcore.dk> <1042677925.19537.42.camel@panda.FreeBSDsystems.COM> <3E2B4432.3080705@crystal.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:12 PM 20/01/2003 -0600, Douglas K. Rand wrote: >I have NO IDEA if the problem is the same on the WD800BB disks. I have a pair of WDC WD800BB-00CAA1, (ser # WD-WMADS1002605,WD-WMADS1002603) on a 2 port 3ware 7000 running in RAID one. FE7X 1.05.00.023 BIOS version: BE7X 1.08.00.036 that work really well to date. Its a rather busy server as well (dual MP2000) that gets brutalized on the CPU and disk. ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 11:30:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B537837B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.netcabo.pt (smtp.netcabo.pt [212.113.174.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45B343E4A for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brunomiguel@netcabo.pt) Received: from cheetah ([81.84.57.55]) by smtp.netcabo.pt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:28:04 +0000 From: "Bruno Afonso" Organization: Artists, Inc. To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:29:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: upgrading from STABLE to 5.0 Reply-To: brunomiguel@netcabo.pt Message-ID: <3E2C4E1B.21872.103F62F@localhost> In-reply-to: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 19:28:04.0612 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DB39C40:01C2C0BA] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20 Jan 2003 at 10:40, Kirk R. Wythers wrote... > 1) I see a line in the UPDATING file that says: > make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > should 'YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' be just the name of my kernel (in my case > LORAXKERNEL) or the compete path to that kernel (from uname -a: > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LORAXKERNEL)? Only name. > 2) is point [8] 'In order to have a kernel that can run the 4.x binaries > needed to do an installworld, you must include the COMPAT_FREEBSD4 > option in your kernel. Failure to do so may leave you with a system > that is hard to boot to recover.' only in reference to those who track > CURRENT? I am a little unclear as to the distinction between STABLE and > CURRRENT with this release... Stable - 4.x You may look at that as Current = 5.0, although it is not true. 5.0 comes from the 5_0 branch. Bruno Miguel Afonso Biological Eng. student. brunomiguel@dequim.ist.utl.pt D.E.Q. @ I.S.T. - Portugal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 12: 1:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10E037B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from devil.stderror.at (at00d01-adsl-194-118-044-149.nextranet.at [194.118.44.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5774143ED8 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pinhead@stderror.at) Received: by devil.stderror.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B71C01532A; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:01:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:01:12 +0100 From: Toni Schmidbauer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0-STABLE ??? Message-ID: <20030120200112.GA98053@devil.stderror.at> Reply-To: toni@stderror.at Mail-Followup-To: Toni Schmidbauer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200301192336.h0JNam2r036785@lurza.secnetix.de> <01ad01c2c02c$e84eaf40$0101a8c0@cascade> <20030120032658.GA35779@gforce.johnson.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030120032658.GA35779@gforce.johnson.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 09:26:59PM -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote: > So if one decides to make the jump to 5.0 and wants to track > development, should -CURRENT be tracked or RELENG_5_0? -CURRENT RELENG_5_0 contains only critical bugfixes and security updates, as mentioned above. toni --=20 Terror ist der Krieg der Armen, | toni@stderror.at Krieg ist der Terror der Reichen. | Toni Schmidbauer - Sir Peter Ustinov | --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+LFWIu/mjSj7RMocRArHzAJ9mIhWSmcPSqtGO4bRdPYseeI/ybQCfYUnC 0sZyu8Hk26OacfbQqHoKARk= =+wqg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 12: 8:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE50737B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from devil.stderror.at (at00d01-adsl-194-118-044-149.nextranet.at [194.118.44.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B6243ED8 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:08:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pinhead@stderror.at) Received: by devil.stderror.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E39811532A; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:08:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:08:54 +0100 From: Toni Schmidbauer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Message-ID: <20030120200854.GB98053@devil.stderror.at> Reply-To: toni@stderror.at Mail-Followup-To: Toni Schmidbauer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119230901.GA89120@rot13.obsecurity.org> <002601c2c029$a0063a30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030120082339.GC92001@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030120082641.GA31370@leafy.idv.tw> <20030120084428.GA92282@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s2ZSL+KKDSLx8OML" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030120084428.GA92282@rot13.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --s2ZSL+KKDSLx8OML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:44:28AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > broadly similar (based on SA)..there is a design paper floating around > somewhere, which is a bit out of date. http://web.mit.edu/nathanw/www/usenix/freenix-sa/freenix-sa.html http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/threads/ http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~brewer/cs262/Scheduler.pdf greetings toni --=20 Terror ist der Krieg der Armen, | toni@stderror.at Krieg ist der Terror der Reichen. | Toni Schmidbauer - Sir Peter Ustinov | --s2ZSL+KKDSLx8OML Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+LFdWu/mjSj7RMocRApcmAJ0Q+ruWSPJnXetHRSQlBUyfYnPUoQCeO8L0 HRUxkAIiEVM+RVjQ3Ddhqak= =mJ6G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --s2ZSL+KKDSLx8OML-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 13: 4:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D2537B405 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinus.cc.fer.hr (pinus.cc.fer.hr [161.53.73.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E95243F96 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:04:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from melb (melb.cc.fer.hr [161.53.72.104]) by pinus.cc.fer.hr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id h0KL8AGh028167 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:08:11 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <001801c2c0c7$aa9595b0$684835a1@melb> From: "Ivan Voras" To: References: <000b01c2bfc0$8ed86e90$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119144233.GA1056@graf.pompo.net> <007901c2bfd0$3ee5de30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030119230901.GA89120@rot13.obsecurity.org> <002601c2c029$a0063a30$e602a8c0@shara.net> <20030120082339.GC92001@rot13.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: gcc -kthread Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:05:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Kennaway" Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: Re: gcc -kthread >>>-kthread is not supported. >> Shouldn't it be removed from the gcc man page then? >Probably. Submit a PR. just did. -- Ashes to ashes, DOS to DOS ivoras @ fer.hr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 13:35: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8B537B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from TMA-1.brad-x.com (static-b2-191.highspeed.eol.ca [64.56.236.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543F943F43 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:34:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad@brad-x.com) Received: from brad-x.com (Discovery.brad-x.com [201.64.15.21]) by TMA-1.brad-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1414C22104E; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:36:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E2C6B7C.6070205@brad-x.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:34:52 -0500 From: Brad Laue User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030119 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kirk R. Wythers" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading from STABLE to 5.0 References: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> In-Reply-To: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kirk R. Wythers wrote: > 1) I see a line in the UPDATING file that says: > make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE A question arises based on this line. This is instructed to be run after 'make buildworld', but not after make installworld. Is there a drawback to building the kernel in this way, considering it will be built with GCC 2.95.4 and not 3.2.1? Is rebuilding the kernel again after installworld a recommended practice? Brad -- // -- http://www.BRAD-X.com/ -- // To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 14: 8:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2980337B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h76n3fls20o913.telia.com [213.67.148.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B631F43F18 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erikt@falcon.midgard.homeip.net) Received: (qmail 2555 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Jan 2003 22:08:28 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:08:27 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Brad Laue Cc: "Kirk R. Wythers" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading from STABLE to 5.0 Message-ID: <20030120220827.GA2533@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Brad Laue , "Kirk R. Wythers" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1043080805.29319.14.camel@x74-47.forestry.umn.edu> <3E2C6B7C.6070205@brad-x.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E2C6B7C.6070205@brad-x.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 04:34:52PM -0500, Brad Laue wrote: > Kirk R. Wythers wrote: > > >1) I see a line in the UPDATING file that says: > >make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > A question arises based on this line. > > This is instructed to be run after 'make buildworld', but not after make > installworld. Is there a drawback to building the kernel in this way, > considering it will be built with GCC 2.95.4 and not 3.2.1? Is > rebuilding the kernel again after installworld a recommended practice? Doing a 'make buildkernel' directly after a 'make buildworld' should build the kernel using the compiler just built with the buildworld. So there should be no need to rebuild the kernel again. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 20 14: 8:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E326337B401 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (gw-ipinc.museum.rain.com [206.29.169.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9C343EB2 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stable@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0KM8Ubi073425 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stable@ns.museum.rain.com) Received: (from stable@localhost) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0KM8UTS073424 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stable) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:08:29 -0800 From: James Long To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: LSI (nee AMI) MegaRAID on Compaq ML310 Message-ID: <20030120140829.A73404@ns.museum.rain.com> Reply-To: james_mapson@museum.rain.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Compaq ProLiant ML310, with an integrated ATA RAID controller controlling two 40G Seagate ST340016A drives. From some Googling, I have learned: The ML310 uses the ServerWorks GC SL chipset -- see http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantml310/description.html ServerWorks appears to be in cahoots with LSI -- see http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/hardware/news/article/0,,10559_1480661,00.html LSI bought AMI's MegaRAID technology -- see http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/ami/notes.html My ProLiant displays boot-up messages bearing LSI Logic Corp.'s copyright http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/ami/notes.html My dmesg shows some unidentified hardware, but does not recognize the RAID controller as an amr device. Is there any likelihood that I can get FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE cvsupped and built today to recognize this controller? This will be a production server, although in a small office, and I have the luxury of testing time, since this server is not yet in production use. So if 5.0 supports this, I am open to trying that. So far, it appears that FreeBSD 4.7 sees two separate drives, ad4 and ad6. The MegaRAID setup utility in ROM ("MegaRAID IDE Setup Utility ver. 2.5.1015C") seems to show that the drives are indeed mirrored into a single logical drive of 38,166 megabytes. My dmesg.boot file is below. Can you suggest anything that might enable FreeBSD to recognize the RAID controller and be able to install onto the mirrored logical drive? Thanks in advance. Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #1: Mon Jan 20 12:48:14 PST 2003 root@bend.pbsenv.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BEND Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium 4 (2199.76-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febfbff,ACC> real memory = 268410880 (262120K bytes) config> di lnc0 No such device: lnc0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di ie0 No such device: ie0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di fe0 config> di ed0 config> di cs0 No such device: cs0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> q avail memory = 257503232 (251468K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc039e000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc039e09c. VESA: v2.0, 8128k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc0332602 (1000022) VESA: ATI MACH64 Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 atapci0: port 0x2030-0x203f,0x2028-0x202b,0x2020-0x2027,0x2018-0x201b,0x2010-0x2017 irq 5 at device 2.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0x2010 on atapci0 ata3: at 0x2020 on atapci0 bge0: mem 0xf7ff0000-0xf7ffffff irq 10 at device 3.0 on pci0 bge0: Ethernet address: 00:08:02:ef:b8:56 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 4.0 pci0: (vendor=0x0e11, dev=0xa0f0) at 5.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0x2000-0x200f,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1 ohci0: mem 0xf5fd0000-0xf5fd0fff irq 11 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib128: on motherboard pci128: on pcib128 pcib1: on motherboard pci1: on pcib1 eisa0: on motherboard mainboard0: on eisa0 slot 0 orm0: