From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 04:43:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE47A16A4CF for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:43:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tibor.swiftdsl.com.au (tibor.swiftdsl.com.au [202.154.92.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E0F43D49 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mv@roq.com) Received: (qmail 10962 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2004 04:48:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.55]) ([218.214.143.85]) (envelope-sender ) by tibor.swiftdsl.com.au (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Oct 2004 04:48:00 -0000 Message-ID: <4171F89A.3010908@roq.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:44:10 +1000 From: Michael Vince User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm References: <4169E68D.9070102@cisnet.com> <416FB37B.5000908@cisnet.com> <200410150954.56686.peter@wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <200410150954.56686.peter@wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Christer Solskogen cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 compat X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:43:57 -0000 Sounds great! >For what its worth, I've got a version of this hack that attaches to >'make world'. With the patches, you can add 'WANT_LIB32=yes' >to /etc/make.conf and these will be included with the each future >build. > >It isn't properly integrated with the build yet - it is more like a >make-ified version of build32.sh. > > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 17 17:34:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C0116A4CE for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:34:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C246C43D49 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:34:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so118882rnk for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:34:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RJFA7WSKWjTzWXaF+mJPYZxbu8a+aLm1WwFPVdokYwq32GW2pQOn8s8FVrrcV6Z+ZhftL2w2WRq75LjUvAJLqya7zlYXqXxUPlRXBrG7hhJcc7KEJTyNjbWY9eKR1tOxY1u0mF7qD3RBSuP4CS0et+u+94LVp3oJ4z1H7lRC8S0 Received: by 10.38.181.77 with SMTP id d77mr1064598rnf; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:34:06 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nvidia nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:34:07 -0000 Is there a solution to make the nvidia NIC work ? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 03:23:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BB016A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:23:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAA643D2D for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:23:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9I3NNUd004446; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9I3NNGB004445; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:22 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041018032322.GA2635@dragon.nuxi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:23:23 -0000 On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 07:34:06PM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Is there a solution to make the nvidia NIC work ? Buy at $5 PCI NIC and install. ;-) Or even better; Return your nVidia nForce based AMD64 mobo to the store and buy a much better mobo for the same price (or less) that uses the AMD or VIA chipset. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 08:53:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BCF16A4D2; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:53:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ares.wolfpond.org (ns1.wolfpond.org [62.212.96.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AD743D41; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:53:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ftigeot@wolfpond.org) Received: from aoi.wolfpond.org (aoi.wolfpond.org [IPv6:2001:7a8:24db:1:20c:76ff:feb4:27e1]) by ares.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9I8rpRP082622; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:53:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot@aoi.wolfpond.org) Received: from aoi.wolfpond.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aoi.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9I8rsre013601; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:53:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot@aoi.wolfpond.org) Received: (from ftigeot@localhost) by aoi.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9I8rsTu013600; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:53:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:53:54 +0200 From: Francois Tigeot To: anthony ry Message-ID: <20041018085354.GA292@aoi.wolfpond.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux_base X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:53:55 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 04:22:28AM -0400, anthony ry wrote: > > I saw your post regarding linux_base. I am attempting to install it on > 5.1.2 and getting an error: I assume you mean 5.2.1/amd64. > ===> Installing for linux_base-7.1_7 > Linux mode is not enabled. > Loading linux kernel module now... > kldload: can't load linux: No such file or directory > The linux kernel module could not be loaded. > Please enable linux mode manually and retry. > *** Error code 1 > > I have not added the KERNEL additions: > >options LINPROCFS > >options COMPAT_43 > >options COMPAT_LINUX32 > > Are those required in order to get linux_base installed? I do have linux > enabled via rc.conf. Yes, they are needed. AFAIK 5.2.x doesn't support kernel modules. > Any help would be appreciated. > > Also, Im getting an error in attempt to run an application. I believe this > error is only because linux_base isnt working yet, but wanted to see if you > had any ideas: > [box@box] > ./program.bin > ELF interpreter /compat/ia32/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found > Abort trap I'm not sure for this one. There is a possibility the binary is a FreeBSD/i386 one. Anyway, you should be better off upgrading to the latest 5.3 beta and posting directly to the mailing-lists in Cc. There are more knowledgeable people than me lurking there. -- Francois Tigeot From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 10:18:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDD616A4CE; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:18:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07E543D3F; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:18:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdodson@sdodson.com) Received: from filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.176])1438B191CF9; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.36]) [66.133.131.176]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07720-14-33; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (67-50-87-167.br1.tbr.ga.frontiernet.net [67.50.87.167])7A32C191BAC; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:18:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Scott Dodson To: obrien@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041018032322.GA2635@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20041018032322.GA2635@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:18:19 -0400 Message-Id: <1098094699.31294.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) (Debian) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:18:37 -0000 On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 20:23 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 07:34:06PM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > Is there a solution to make the nvidia NIC work ? > > Buy at $5 PCI NIC and install. ;-) > Or even better; > Return your nVidia nForce based AMD64 mobo to the store and buy a much > better mobo for the same price (or less) that uses the AMD or VIA > chipset. > Hmm, I hadn't notice a board with a chipset from AMD, which boards have you seen a chipset from AMD on? I know ATI is due to release an AMD chipset any day now adding to the mix, but as far as I knew it was only nVidia, VIA, and sometimes SIS. I'll be sure to mark nVidia off my list though as I'm looking at building a 939 based box. -- Scott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 11:02:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC91B16A4D5 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:02:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE69843D1D for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9IB20Df048036 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:02:00 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9IB1xmC048026 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:01:59 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:01:59 GMT Message-Id: <200410181101.i9IB1xmC048026@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:02:01 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/11/26] amd64/59714 amd64 device timeout and ad0: WARNING - WRITE_D o [2004/06/09] amd64/67745 amd64 boot fails on compaq presario r3000z o [2004/07/28] amd64/69704 amd64 ext2/ext3 unstable in amd64 o [2004/07/28] amd64/69707 amd64 IPC32 dont work OK in amd64 FreeBSD o [2004/09/07] amd64/71471 amd64 Can not install 5.3beta3/amd64 on IBM eSe o [2004/10/04] amd64/72333 amd64 vinum doesn't scan for drives on slices o 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/01/11] amd64/61209 amd64 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range o [2004/02/21] amd64/63188 amd64 ti(4) broken on amd64 o [2004/07/28] amd64/69705 amd64 IPC problem (msq_queues) o [2004/07/28] amd64/69709 amd64 ACPI enabled then floppy don't work (5.2. o [2004/07/28] amd64/69712 amd64 no DRI (hardware OpenGL) for ATI Radeon 9 o [2004/08/15] amd64/70500 amd64 bge driver for 3Com 3C996B on amd64 preve o [2004/09/12] amd64/71674 amd64 static libraries cannot be linked when bu o [2004/09/15] amd64/71753 amd64 DRI loads but fails to render on Radeon 9 o [2004/09/30] amd64/72213 amd64 No vesa device o [2004/10/08] amd64/72445 amd64 mount_smbfs gives Bus error (core dumped) o [2004/10/10] amd64/72493 amd64 CD-Image of amd64-5.3-BETA6 missing files o [2004/10/11] amd64/72517 amd64 Minor Bug in /etc/login.access 12 problems total. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 13:54:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929B016A4CF for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:54:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4195743D48 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:54:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so189081rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:54:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=t6Jsz8KWOQpEHnEcB5TCQ9KdNW06CavviPfS3tCC1GooxUwFxIajGFK/vnBSpatt3r96KGBxu3ZXlY0VFqa72xuh153Gmd8AvGTDw4qvbtnmo6P5o3GFBFwQ0ee7SP0XESCpJpahqJWihCZYbMlnHnLwzDW/akvqytypeK2cUDo Received: by 10.38.81.49 with SMTP id e49mr1419219rnb; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:54:02 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1098094699.31294.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041018032322.GA2635@dragon.nuxi.com> <1098094699.31294.2.camel@localhost> Subject: Re: nvidia nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:54:03 -0000 I did put a other nic but i dont understand why there are no drivers for it ? It seems there are for linux ? So why not for freebsd ? I also dont understand why the apci from the sk8n is not working because there is a bug in the chipset ? I dont say its not true but if it was a bug in the chipset self how come my xp doesnt have any problem with it what so ever ? Where is the snd_driver or the acl650 driver ? I made a custom install 5.3b7 and the drivers are not on my hartdisk ? Where can i find them ? Thx From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 15:43:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E942616A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:43:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DBC43D48 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:43:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so205641rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:43:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d3b2pteSJ3BHGnVJvQk2Mqmuy71MhgeosWvRfFtPRZvwQCtNMRHxc+5CFK54Nsw1naKuTNcsSXpy8fbnNmE0oNfEDat8tdQJIvWhUPrzj5LqwnfPkFNSwEB99xVfHGuQenw967wYzU3B+5S49TlrfUTrV6mApTxevM5+rtd4uqo Received: by 10.38.22.51 with SMTP id 51mr1464327rnv; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:43:28 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:43:31 -0000 I want to install cvsup on my 5.3b7 but when i go to the ports csvup map and do make install he cant fech it because it is a different file or something ? Thx From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 15:46:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F6C16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:46:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk (mail.devrandom.org.uk [84.92.10.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7690743D1F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:46:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from howells@kde.org) Received: from localhost (frodo [192.168.1.8]) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CBE256350 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:46:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk ([192.168.1.8]) by localhost (frodo.devrandom.org.uk [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15391-06 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:46:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.176] (unknown [192.168.1.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABAD256103 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:46:36 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Howells Organization: K Desktop Environment To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:46:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1352973.vkVQfcVC5y"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at devrandom.org.uk Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:46:48 -0000 --nextPart1352973.vkVQfcVC5y Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 18 October 2004 16:43, Gert Cuykens wrote: > I want to install cvsup on my 5.3b7 but when i go to the ports csvup > map and do make install he cant fech it because it is a different file > or something ? "or something" ? what does that mean? I'll be happy when I finally get to be telephatic, but= =20 until then, you'll just have to give the full error message. =2D-=20 Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org --nextPart1352973.vkVQfcVC5y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBc+VkF8Iu1zN5WiwRAsE9AJ9ZtyOYBYqACCELklBa/Je4d9xhywCfZ+dd syh2z3m5QZAAI0htzu+iBtg= =n3b1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1352973.vkVQfcVC5y-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 16:05:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC8816A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:05:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC9643D45 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so208933rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:05:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=cbccEabc9U5PNBA0vhpUkkwZjKi058QJwOfw2RbTigiJluLnxOottYJ+S0eZ2psr/aJa0KK5rgAwNt8Sam3SIwagkbv2dSdc4bpbZnKDli81XAQRzBS7ou75gywb4PFwhueOLLsNfOCapTdvRV5i1z/mxC1BZW0ia6mkTPZQ9dg Received: by 10.38.88.61 with SMTP id l61mr1473590rnb; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:05:22 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:05:23 -0000 Come on man use your magic glass boll. Ok ok booting back to bsd take paper write it down and come back to xp to type it in a email :) On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:46:32 +0100, Chris Howells wrote: > On Monday 18 October 2004 16:43, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > I want to install cvsup on my 5.3b7 but when i go to the ports csvup > > map and do make install he cant fech it because it is a different file > > or something ? > > "or something" ? > > what does that mean? I'll be happy when I finally get to be telephatic, but > until then, you'll just have to give the full error message. > > -- > Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org > Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C > KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org > > > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 16:10:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB26A16A502 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:10:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.pragmeta.com (mx1.pragmeta.com [216.230.164.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528D343D49 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jendries@pragmeta.com) Received: from [10.0.0.201] (host-64-246-146-151.ubr0.dc1-alb.inoc.net [64.246.146.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.pragmeta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4939C55F04C for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:10:10 -0400 From: Josh Endries User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041006) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:10:20 -0000 I recently had problems running cvsup-without-gui on an AMD64 5.3-BETA7 system. Installing the port didn't compile anything, it only seemed to fetched a binary, I guess. I had to create a symlink for /lib/libm.so.2 and point it to /lib/libm.so.3 for cvsup to run. Josh From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 16:26:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A6E16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:26:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D48643D5C for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@slightlystrange.org) Received: from www by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJaLG-000Fhy-Hg for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:26:38 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.1 (proxying for 127.0.0.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dan); by catflap.slightlystrange.org with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:26:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> In-Reply-To: <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:26:38 +0100 (BST) From: "Daniel Bye" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: World Wide Web Owner Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@slightlystrange.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:26:40 -0000 On Mon, 18 October, 2004 5:10 pm, Josh Endries said: > I recently had problems running cvsup-without-gui on an AMD64 5.3-BETA7 > system. Installing the port didn't compile anything, it only seemed to > fetched a binary, I guess. Correct. The AMD64 port is atm binary only. > I had to create a symlink for /lib/libm.so.2 > and point it to /lib/libm.so.3 for cvsup to run. I hit this one this morning. I tackled by setting this in /etc/libmap.conf: [/usr/local/bin/cvsup] libm.so.3 libm.so.2 Much the same effect as creating a symlink, but doesn't chew up an inode unnecessarily! You should now be able to run cvsup without seeing that error again. More details in /usr/ports/UPDATING (look for 20041001). HTH Dan -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 16:40:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECD616A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:40:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5503543D5A for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:40:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so213803rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=UAl1ITJrE0XoNB3bgLqT+GM3BDQdBnxlVvL5cz72w+xVCfA2PayXQdeDYRkqwSs3tuCtfch5taRCWxhAzI4SAfUph4gxJhZ3zRqJyNvy5eBqxy3723rWD1RNZ99UjR41qmWhZzM5nBe6BEzNucdITDzMnl/elIvlbvb8CdNbuN4 Received: by 10.38.151.68 with SMTP id y68mr1479517rnd; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:40:42 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:40:43 -0000 why do you guys always start talking chinese, i am a teletubie and teletubies dont talk chinise. I dont know why but it works now ? No more error except when i run cvsup i get this bla bla bla not found bla bla bla... relax Chris just kidding :) /libexec/ld-elf.so.1:shared object "libm.so.2" not found required by "cvsup" So i gues this would fix it ? ee /etc/libmap.conf [/usr/local/bin/cvsup] libm.so.3 libm.so.2 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 16:48:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743AE16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:48:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2824343D49 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:48:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so214898rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:48:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NgDL91aa2+Wbr7Scp7f5wt4FkMt8mPGJjvLtCB4q+IN/ua6A18yqNVDPCmW/hzVI1ZTH19wmFM1aACokMR1cM2tSnlFleRSa7Od5ET8nkQKfpMX//A1xUZ0HTAZ3tVSuV/dVDh43LkMhEesE/DF1s0nEzCUsQYHy4yahTDiAbwo Received: by 10.38.9.24 with SMTP id 24mr1495946rni; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:48:49 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:48:50 -0000 so if i understand it right cvsup will update the ports tree and the ports applications right ? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 16:54:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9784516A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:54:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4218343D55 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:54:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@slightlystrange.org) Received: from www by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJam4-000FkV-E7 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:54:20 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.1 (proxying for 127.0.0.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dan); by catflap.slightlystrange.org with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:54:20 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <58488.192.168.0.1.1098118460.squirrel@192.168.0.1> In-Reply-To: References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:54:20 +0100 (BST) From: "Daniel Bye" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: World Wide Web Owner Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@slightlystrange.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:54:21 -0000 On Mon, 18 October, 2004 5:40 pm, Gert Cuykens said: > why do you guys always start talking chinese, i am a teletubie and > teletubies dont talk chinise. Well, I've learnt something today! ;-) > I dont know why but it works now ? No more error except when i run > cvsup i get this bla bla bla not found bla bla bla... relax Chris just > kidding :) > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1:shared object "libm.so.2" not found required by > "cvsup" > > So i gues this would fix it ? > > ee /etc/libmap.conf > > [/usr/local/bin/cvsup] > libm.so.3 libm.so.2 Yep, as I said in my previous post. Alternatively, make a symlink, as Josh did. As a general rule, it's good practice to read /usr/ports/UPDATING and /usr/src/UPDATING whenever you run cvsup against ports of src. Heheh! Would have saved myself much frustration had I followed my own advice a bit more! Dan -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 16:59:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E2716A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:59:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC9E43D1F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:59:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@slightlystrange.org) Received: from www by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJaqh-000Fl3-Qf for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:59:07 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.1 (proxying for 127.0.0.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dan); by catflap.slightlystrange.org with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:59:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <58558.192.168.0.1.1098118747.squirrel@192.168.0.1> In-Reply-To: References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:59:07 +0100 (BST) From: "Daniel Bye" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: World Wide Web Owner Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@slightlystrange.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:59:09 -0000 On Mon, 18 October, 2004 5:48 pm, Gert Cuykens said: > so if i understand it right cvsup will update the ports tree and the > ports applications right ? Wrong. cvsup will update the ports tree (and/or the sources, depending on how you use it) only. You will need to explicitly rebuild anything that needs it. Take a look at portupgrade in /usr/ports/sysutils. Makes port management very easy indeed. Dan -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 17:12:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B5D16A4CE; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:12:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E8443D55; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:12:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9IHCHNa003464; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9IHCG3C003463; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:12:16 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: anthony ry , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041018171216.GA3092@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20041018085354.GA292@aoi.wolfpond.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041018085354.GA292@aoi.wolfpond.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Subject: Re: Linux_base X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:12:17 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:53:54AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 04:22:28AM -0400, anthony ry wrote: > > > > I saw your post regarding linux_base. I am attempting to install it on > > 5.1.2 and getting an error: > > I assume you mean 5.2.1/amd64. The Linux 32-bit support wasn't in 5.2.1. You need to update to 5.3. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 17:20:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9201416A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCB743D2F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so219128rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:20:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CTF4UMT33eWiajLlQ9ej2C2JCApmFl27840UUQWmQdEfMKi7BxQJPuyoiW3Omsmak5SYS6WQnbH10gFku4B1nWBymY+q/4gtb25lBYrD7sFgVxO3IqgRgnw5IoDl7XFQ4776P9ubz2Uq+uKc/1ZKHEldj+6A2ZirXmJXlKUD4ks Received: by 10.38.72.80 with SMTP id u80mr1502636rna; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:20:00 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <58558.192.168.0.1.1098118747.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <58558.192.168.0.1.1098118747.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:01 -0000 I rebooted bsd but the libmap.conf thingy did not work ? Also the file did not exist in the etc ? ee /etc/libmap.conf [/usr/local/bin/cvsup] libm.so.3 libm.so.2 I read the man of cvsupdate actually reading is a bit of a strong word more like scrolling :) So this should update the tree and the sources right ? /usr/local/bin/cvsupdate delete From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 17:20:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6020616A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4112A43D45 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9IHKwrG005218; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9IHKwr6005216; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:20:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Josh Endries Message-ID: <20041018172057.GA5179@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:59 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 12:10:10PM -0400, Josh Endries wrote: > I recently had problems running cvsup-without-gui on an AMD64 5.3-BETA7 > system. Installing the port didn't compile anything, it only seemed to > fetched a binary, I guess. I had to create a symlink for /lib/libm.so.2 > and point it to /lib/libm.so.3 for cvsup to run. What version of FreeBSD are you running (ie, what does 'uname -a' output)? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 17:22:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2BF16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:22:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5197243D3F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:22:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9IHM9vt005263; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:22:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9IHM924005262; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:22:08 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Daniel Bye Message-ID: <20041018172208.GB5179@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:22:10 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 05:26:38PM +0100, Daniel Bye wrote: > > I had to create a symlink for /lib/libm.so.2 > > and point it to /lib/libm.so.3 for cvsup to run. > > I hit this one this morning. I tackled by setting this in /etc/libmap.conf: > > [/usr/local/bin/cvsup] > libm.so.3 libm.so.2 What is the output of 'uname -a'? How is everyone running into this when the 5.3 Beta's (and 6-CURRENT) have /lib/libm.so.3? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 17:24:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D4116A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:24:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CE543D1F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:24:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9IHOKQq005300; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:24:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9IHOJuX005298; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:24:19 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:24:20 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 06:40:42PM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > why do you guys always start talking chinese, i am a teletubie and > teletubies dont talk chinise. > > I dont know why but it works now ? No more error except when i run > cvsup i get this bla bla bla not found bla bla bla... relax Chris just > kidding :) > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1:shared object "libm.so.2" not found required by "cvsup" You have the old version of the port -- pre-2004/10/11 22:10:58. > So i gues this would fix it ? > ee /etc/libmap.conf > > [/usr/local/bin/cvsup] > libm.so.3 libm.so.2 Get the latest /usr/ports/net/cvsup, 'make deinstall install clean', then remove the libmap.conf entries before you forget about them and run into problems later. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 17:29:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948B616A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:29:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E6F43D55 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:29:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9IHTJhA005591; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9IHTJpc005590; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:29:18 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041018172918.GD5179@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20041018032322.GA2635@dragon.nuxi.com> <1098094699.31294.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:29:20 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 03:54:02PM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > I did put a other nic but i dont understand why there are no drivers > for it ? It seems there are for linux ? So why not for freebsd ? The nVidia NIC driver is a propriety binary-only driver and nVidia only supports Linux, not FreeBSD. Even in the Linux world there have been major problems with the AMD64 nVidia NIC driver. > I also dont understand why the apci from the sk8n is not working > because there is a bug in the chipset ? I dont say its not true but if > it was a bug in the chipset self how come my xp doesnt have any > problem with it what so ever ? Because OEM's (and mobo makers) think ALL THE WORLD IS MICROSOFT WINDOWS. The OEM/ODM/mobo makers don't test with anything except MS-Windows. I'm quite surprised you can be a BSD/Linux user and never run into BIOS and ACPI errors that don't happen on MS-Windows. Google around and you will find PLENTY of stories about the problems of ACPI on non-MS-Windows OS's and problems running Linux (and thus BSD) on the SK8N and other nVidia nForce3-150 chipset mobos. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 17:42:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF7816A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:42:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C96B43D2D for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:42:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so222059rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:42:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MlPaXDVzW04fQ+bXT0V8RlsmNAfrguMK6g/8YuNt9pBLpej6L0QBkHPAuLk4kNeHRlNW2NmnXfTrMJlqZYZaSqIPLTrb0jwlWXHgHvF4Xh6/Q0m58Y2BzqWxQvzXJdY/nORq0L/E+6fZ4ZRxMAFVX7GNQn76wNN3z382gc/J1GE Received: by 10.38.151.68 with SMTP id y68mr1511051rnd; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:42:25 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:42:28 -0000 And that would translate into ? download ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz make deinstall rm -rf /usr/ports/ tar -??? ports.tar.gz /usr/ports/ make install clean or just make deinstall install clean From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 17:52:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874AD16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:52:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360B443D46 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:52:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 73so224564rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:52:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EDNYfoR2d2vdYgqUURhLH9hL1KwGp/B6ZVW3Gd7xSu7GLZQdWP7q3ayKgz7J3MGGHrptbyWTFvaP7DwsEW7JeWqU9YMSdj8ZaUehLCtK2Chqh8HzRuLy4d3ql11CYxkMup7kh3JwiUIwH9A5XbwcCvNbjyb4YaLqom8FRvwBXNQ Received: by 10.38.152.39 with SMTP id z39mr1527902rnd; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:52:37 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041018172918.GD5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041018032322.GA2635@dragon.nuxi.com> <1098094699.31294.2.camel@localhost> <20041018172918.GD5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: nvidia nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:52:38 -0000 Ok i agree but you also have to agree no matter how they made the chipset there has to be a solution that works els it would not work in windows either ? A os just tells the computer what to do right ? So its just a matter of asking the pc nicely enough :) On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:29:18 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 03:54:02PM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > I did put a other nic but i dont understand why there are no drivers > > for it ? It seems there are for linux ? So why not for freebsd ? > > The nVidia NIC driver is a propriety binary-only driver and nVidia only > supports Linux, not FreeBSD. Even in the Linux world there have been > major problems with the AMD64 nVidia NIC driver. > > > > I also dont understand why the apci from the sk8n is not working > > because there is a bug in the chipset ? I dont say its not true but if > > it was a bug in the chipset self how come my xp doesnt have any > > problem with it what so ever ? > > Because OEM's (and mobo makers) think ALL THE WORLD IS MICROSOFT WINDOWS. > The OEM/ODM/mobo makers don't test with anything except MS-Windows. I'm > quite surprised you can be a BSD/Linux user and never run into BIOS and > ACPI errors that don't happen on MS-Windows. Google around and you will > find PLENTY of stories about the problems of ACPI on non-MS-Windows OS's > and problems running Linux (and thus BSD) on the SK8N and other nVidia > nForce3-150 chipset mobos. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 18:00:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADCF16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:00:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CC543D39 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:00:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i9II0hwj096565 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:00:43 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9II0hpS096563; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:00:43 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:00:43 GMT Message-Id: <200410181800.i9II0hpS096563@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org From: dmitri don Subject: Re: amd64/67745: boot fails on compaq presario r3000z X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmitri don List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:00:44 -0000 The following reply was made to PR amd64/67745; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dmitri don To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, newntrbr@ucla.edu Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/67745: boot fails on compaq presario r3000z Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:54:34 +0300 Hi, I just tried to boot with 5-1.3-RC1-i386-miniinst and all boot options fail. Laptop just turns off after the boot spinner (/-\|). I have a Presario R3000 Intel machine. You can contact me if something needs to be tested on this machine. Thanks, Dmitri From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 18:24:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBAA16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:24:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A945843D49 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so227907rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:24:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=FpbhTtIV4UzT/YECjS/daJP+z5L5u7ZRL8iA3c/JQfe0CeEOO1G6v9uVQfy4bTAkSOjU+mspuGvSFu+0ZRz0IMAgN2t/6PFKljnATlCuA/mOiVaqQ47AALHuFg51LTrbi0ZP9IaU/wxKV5Ji9EEQ6LK11Lz2quRDnW2/Ac7zfnE Received: by 10.38.24.12 with SMTP id 12mr1534570rnx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:24:35 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <417407B1.1080503@error404.nls.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041018032322.GA2635@dragon.nuxi.com> <1098094699.31294.2.camel@localhost> <20041018172918.GD5179@dragon.nuxi.com> <417407B1.1080503@error404.nls.net> Subject: Re: nvidia nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:24:37 -0000 Does nvidia give documents to microsoft ? Or does microsoft give documents to nvidia ? Why not ask microsoft for documents instead of nvidia ? On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:13:05 -0400, Ketrien I. Saihr-Kesenchedra wrote: > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > >Ok i agree but you also have to agree no matter how they made the > >chipset there has to be a solution that works els it would not work in > >windows either ? A os just tells the computer what to do right ? So > >its just a matter of asking the pc nicely enough :) > > > > > Ha. If only it were that easy. It's not. First off, you need complete > and full documentation for the hardware in question, including full > register maps. Since nVidia apparently couldn't make a usable chipset if > they stole the i440BX, I don't hold out much hope that their > documentation for nFarce3 would even be worth using as toilet paper. > Furthermore, nVidia has no interest in giving anyone any documentation > unless they're a manufacturing partner. They do all their drivers > (apparently quite poorly in many cases) in house. So no, it's not just a > matter of telling the computer what to do or asking nicely enough. > Especially when you're dealing with buggy and/or poorly designed hardware. > If you think you can get nVidia to release docs, please, be my guest. > People have been trying for a long time, and it's about as useful as > talking to a brick wall. > > -ksaihr > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 18:42:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAF516A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:42:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C0843D41 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:42:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 328895312; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:42:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 74F95530A; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:42:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 538C5B861; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:42:24 +0200 (CEST) To: Gert Cuykens References: From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:42:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Gert Cuykens's message of "Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:45:39 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.64 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sk8n X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:42:33 -0000 Gert Cuykens writes: > I dont understand what i have to do to make the apic work on a sk8n ? > > Can somebody explain to me what i have to do and what i have to write > in /boot/loader.conf so apic works on the sk8n please Even if you enable mixed mode, you'll have problems with (at least) the SATA controller. For now, you're better off disabling the apic by adding the following to /boot/loader.conf and rebooting: hint.apic.0.disabled=3D"1" DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 18:55:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9207716A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www1.brozs.net (www1.brozs.net [195.154.177.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA6943D3F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:55:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfagart@brozs.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.brozs.net [127.0.0.1]) by www1.brozs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E452346E4; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:55:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www1.brozs.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www1.brozs.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04202-06; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:55:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.100] (unknown [192.168.10.100]) by www1.brozs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0A546B3; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:55:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <41741199.9070000@brozs.net> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:55:21 +0200 From: Thomas Fagart User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?QWRyaWFuIEthbWnFhHNraQ==?= References: <4098.64.236.216.30.1096544782.squirrel@webmail.brozs.net> <41670055.5030307@brozs.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at brozs.net cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3Beta6 not working with Asus K8V Deluxe SE X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:55:30 -0000 Hi, Finally you were right, what I really don't get, is how a server could run properly in 32 bits mode with wrong RAM and then not work properly in 64 bits mode. Anyway my issue is solved by buying new "good" RAM. Thanks a lot. Thomas Adrian KamiÅ„ski a écrit : >On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:02:13 +0200, Thomas Fagart wrote: > > >>Release : 5.3BETA7-amd64 >>1. Install >>1.1 ACPI enable -> Hang during Freebsd boot with the following message : >>Panic isadma_start : bad bounce buffer >>1.2 ACPI disable, I get the install screen and successfully launch the >>installation, but once per two, randomly I've got a hang during the >>ports copy with : page fault cpuid 0 >> >>2. After install >>If per chance I get a "valid" system installed, I can compile kernel, >>install it, install software, but system randomly will hang. For sample >>while doing the make buildworld , it hangs, usually with page fault error. >> >> > >Hi, >I guess you should better look at your RAM - there is list of >supported memory types & producents, maybe you should check it. I had >2x 512MB and one of them was broken so I get similar results (system >hangs when compiling), after replacement all seems to be all right >(uptime so far 2 days :). > >Adrian > > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 19:14:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944F116A4CF for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:14:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB8843D5D for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:14:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so234930rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=tvtQdU4V9FQyi7nHXA4/SyhU6NP9Y7v9QdJNLthnyUXIydgRIH3dJqAqGbp5WOpclepjJBvMp2X2d/tEas+RNXnGc4OwtGia2/eMRJC6CF6Erp17MtAe9p6tQH0BNt3HbIWygwJGtY0DSMtXc+TIM27QRU/c/4PGYVLNHJu6arA Received: by 10.38.152.19 with SMTP id z19mr1565132rnd; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:14:45 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: Subject: Re: sk8n X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:14:46 -0000 Thx man that works great !!!=20 How much performance do we loose with disabeling apic ? I read that apic makes only your pc faster if there are shared irq's ? How do i know my irq's are shared ? Just asking so i know how many times i have to pull your leg saying is , it fixed yet, is it fixed yet, is it fixed yet... :) PS shutdown -p seems to work now, dont know why ?=20 On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:42:24 +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrot= e: > Gert Cuykens writes: > > I dont understand what i have to do to make the apic work on a sk8n ? > > > > Can somebody explain to me what i have to do and what i have to write > > in /boot/loader.conf so apic works on the sk8n please >=20 > Even if you enable mixed mode, you'll have problems with (at least) > the SATA controller. For now, you're better off disabling the apic by > adding the following to /boot/loader.conf and rebooting: >=20 > hint.apic.0.disabled=3D"1" >=20 > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 19:20:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2F216A4FB; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:20:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wmptl.net (mail.wmptl.com [216.8.159.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59D043D41; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ITStaff@wmptl.com) Received: from transcon ([10.0.0.3]) by wmptl.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i9IJKAlM073646; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> From: "Communications Machine" To: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:19:40 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Spam-Score: -96 () RANDOM_WORDS,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.30 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Communications Machine List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:20:12 -0000 Hey all, looking to upgrade a server used in a small business here, looking for opinions and advice about migrating to an AMD64 system, vs. using i386 box, also if it would not be just as feasible to use i386 distribution on AMD64 hardware simply for the speed? Here's what we've got now, and have been running for a few years without fail; just things getting a little slow to keep-up with things now: AMD K62 - 300mhz CPU 768 Megs RAM 60GB ATA-133 and 80GB ATA-133 Drive attached to Promise TX2 Controller (no raid) System serves as: - mailserver (sendmail/pop3/spamd/mimedefang with custom filters) - webserver ('standard' apache serving mostly static pages) - application server (apache/mod_perl mostly, lot of custom apps) - squid proxy server/gateway using authentication and custom logging - samba server for workgroup, not primary fileserver but used quite a bit - MySQL server *** several databases nearing couple hundred megs worth of data, queries starting to take longer than ever before... - FTP server, (combined with http/upload virtually hosted site), operates as place for customers/vendors to drop/receive data - used quite frequently, but for mostly sub 1gb files - many custom apps, mostly written in PERL, which process data via cronjobs, etc. Here's what we're proposing for the new hardware: AMD Athlon64 - 3200+ (Socket 754 - I know, but it's cheap) MSI K8T-FSR (VIA Chipset) Adaptec AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller (4) Seagate 200GB S-ATA Drives to be configured RAID 5 2048MB DDR400 Non-ECC RAM DVD-ROM, floppy, etc... Just wondering if we should maintain i386/4.9 distribution and wait for the AMD64 platform to mature further into stability as the releases progress... or to jump on the FreeBSD 5.x.x bandwagon and go with a native AMD64 platform; so long as we can run Apache/mod_perl + mysql, things should be all good... or not? Any advice, suggestions (hardware or software) would be greatly appreciated, please either CC the list and reply, or vice-versa as we are not directly subscribed to the mailing list for -questions, only for amd64 - thank-you. -- Nathan Vidican itstaff@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 19:43:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858B216A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:43:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE1A43D2F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so238612rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:42:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qZBjGShptFdHHXKjeoTNr16UuXuwp7j9Dw+4g2djy1BtU0ZUjBMNnr/IGmJyonFR+Rg3r/PCkaD5gWu77GVZ2JUqPk8/aQNJgG+IzyRIAHmH2g92BzS/ebQaiS1b8P8XTTMk5X05dYrOkMTJbuvdfC/8iPP3KZ+FMTPGQFRQKUg Received: by 10.38.24.12 with SMTP id 12mr1571627rnx; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:42:57 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:43:00 -0000 What are /usr/ports/distfiles/ ? I thought it where backup copy's of all the make files you installed on your system but when i do for example tar -xjf cvsup-without-gui.amd64.tarbz2 the cvsup-without-gui.amd64 looks like a binary file ? Can somebody explain to me please how distfiles work ? Thx From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 20:08:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB1016A4D1 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:08:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from anduin.net (anduin.net [212.12.46.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273A643D8D for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:08:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from mailnull by anduin.net with dspam-scanned (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdkf-000PJ6-MQ for amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:05:05 +0200 Received: from mailnull by anduin.net with spamassassin-scanned (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdkc-000PIu-U4 for amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:05:05 +0200 Received: from c5100a234.sdsl.catch.no ([81.0.162.52] helo=[192.168.1.113]) by anduin.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdkc-000PIr-Oj; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:05:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:07:44 +0200 To: Communications Machine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on anduin.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=7.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:08:28 -0000 Hoi there, I don't see any problems, except ..... On 18. Oct 2004, at 21:19, Communications Machine wrote: > Hey all, looking to upgrade a server used in a small business here, > looking > for opinions and advice about migrating to an AMD64 system, vs. using > i386 > box, also if it would not be just as feasible to use i386 distribution > on > AMD64 hardware simply for the speed? > > Here's what we've got now, and have been running for a few years > without > fail; just things getting a little slow to keep-up with things now: > > AMD K62 - 300mhz CPU > 768 Megs RAM > 60GB ATA-133 and 80GB ATA-133 Drive attached to Promise TX2 Controller > (no > raid) > > System serves as: > - mailserver (sendmail/pop3/spamd/mimedefang with custom filters) > - webserver ('standard' apache serving mostly static pages) > - application server (apache/mod_perl mostly, lot of custom apps) > - squid proxy server/gateway using authentication and custom > logging > - samba server for workgroup, not primary fileserver but used > quite a > bit > - MySQL server *** several databases nearing couple hundred megs > worth > of data, queries starting to take longer than ever before... > - FTP server, (combined with http/upload virtually hosted site), > operates as place for customers/vendors to drop/receive data - used > quite > frequently, but for mostly sub 1gb files > - many custom apps, mostly written in PERL, which process data via > cronjobs, etc. > > > Here's what we're proposing for the new hardware: > > AMD Athlon64 - 3200+ (Socket 754 - I know, but it's cheap) > MSI K8T-FSR (VIA Chipset) > Adaptec AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller This one is gonna be tricky on you, I think. The driver used for most Adaptec RAID controllers (IDE and SCSI alike) isn't currently working on amd64 (in 64-bit mode, that is). I have repeatedly asked if anyone will step up to the task and fix that, as I have an Adaptec Zero-Channel RAID add-on-board for my dual opteron just collecting dust at the moment, but the general answer is 'no time'... Too bad. Then again, I have nothing but really REALLY bad experiences with Adaptec IDE RAID solutions, so perhaps you should choose differently there.. Most all the others are supported, and supported well afaik. /Eirik > (4) Seagate 200GB S-ATA Drives to be configured RAID 5 > 2048MB DDR400 Non-ECC RAM > DVD-ROM, floppy, etc... > > Just wondering if we should maintain i386/4.9 distribution and wait > for the > AMD64 platform to mature further into stability as the releases > progress... > or to jump on the FreeBSD 5.x.x bandwagon and go with a native AMD64 > platform; so long as we can run Apache/mod_perl + mysql, things should > be > all good... or not? > > Any advice, suggestions (hardware or software) would be greatly > appreciated, > please either CC the list and reply, or vice-versa as we are not > directly > subscribed to the mailing list for -questions, only for amd64 - > thank-you. > > -- > Nathan Vidican > itstaff@wmptl.com > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. > http://www.wmptl.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > - Love over Gold - From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 20:11:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409C416A4D9 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from anduin.net (anduin.net [212.12.46.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD2443D31 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from mailnull by anduin.net with dspam-scanned (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdnR-000PL3-DG for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:07:57 +0200 Received: from mailnull by anduin.net with spamassassin-scanned (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdnF-000PKq-Mr for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:07:57 +0200 Received: from c5100a234.sdsl.catch.no ([81.0.162.52] helo=[192.168.1.113]) by anduin.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJdnF-000PKn-Ga; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:07:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:10:27 +0200 To: Gert Cuykens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on anduin.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=7.5 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:11:02 -0000 On 18. Oct 2004, at 21:42, Gert Cuykens wrote: > What are /usr/ports/distfiles/ ? It's where the ports system downloads the source/binary distribution files for the ports you try to compile/install. It can safely be emptied, but then any rebuild of an existing application will start a new download. I generally clean out this directory pretty often, just to save diskspace. > I thought it where backup copy's of all the make files you installed > on your system but when i do for example tar -xjf > cvsup-without-gui.amd64.tarbz2 the cvsup-without-gui.amd64 looks like > a binary file ? Can somebody explain to me please how distfiles work ? Do a 'man ports', or read the FreeBSD handbook. The handbook should be translated to a lot of languages as well, if you prefer looking it up in your native language. Good luck! /Eirik > > Thx > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > - Love over Gold - From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 20:57:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879DD16A4CE; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:57:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wmptl.net (mail.wmptl.com [216.8.159.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED0743D41; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:57:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ITStaff@wmptl.com) Received: from transcon ([10.0.0.3]) by wmptl.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i9IKvblM075768; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000401c4b554$ef186450$0300000a@transcon> From: "Communications Machine" To: "Eirik Øverby" References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:56:26 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Spam-Score: -109.3 () MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.30 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? (sources?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Communications Machine List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:57:41 -0000 Thanx for the advice, we had actually chosen a 3 Ware Escalade 8500-series S-ATA controller, but have been unable to locate a dealer for the product locally (or online) with a good price; thus the fall-back to Adaptec. Lots of eBay-ers' selling them, but no one has retail versions, only OEM lacking the required cable kits... any help here? Anyone know-of / have / are a good source for these boards? Need basic RAID 5 functionality with best support possible, at a sub $500 pricetag for 4 channel serial ATA... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eirik Øverby" To: "Communications Machine" Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? > Hoi there, > > I don't see any problems, except ..... > > On 18. Oct 2004, at 21:19, Communications Machine wrote: > > > Hey all, looking to upgrade a server used in a small business here, > > looking > > for opinions and advice about migrating to an AMD64 system, vs. using > > i386 > > box, also if it would not be just as feasible to use i386 distribution > > on > > AMD64 hardware simply for the speed? > > > > Here's what we've got now, and have been running for a few years > > without > > fail; just things getting a little slow to keep-up with things now: > > > > AMD K62 - 300mhz CPU > > 768 Megs RAM > > 60GB ATA-133 and 80GB ATA-133 Drive attached to Promise TX2 Controller > > (no > > raid) > > > > System serves as: > > - mailserver (sendmail/pop3/spamd/mimedefang with custom filters) > > - webserver ('standard' apache serving mostly static pages) > > - application server (apache/mod_perl mostly, lot of custom apps) > > - squid proxy server/gateway using authentication and custom > > logging > > - samba server for workgroup, not primary fileserver but used > > quite a > > bit > > - MySQL server *** several databases nearing couple hundred megs > > worth > > of data, queries starting to take longer than ever before... > > - FTP server, (combined with http/upload virtually hosted site), > > operates as place for customers/vendors to drop/receive data - used > > quite > > frequently, but for mostly sub 1gb files > > - many custom apps, mostly written in PERL, which process data via > > cronjobs, etc. > > > > > > Here's what we're proposing for the new hardware: > > > > AMD Athlon64 - 3200+ (Socket 754 - I know, but it's cheap) > > MSI K8T-FSR (VIA Chipset) > > Adaptec AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller > > This one is gonna be tricky on you, I think. The driver used for most > Adaptec RAID controllers (IDE and SCSI alike) isn't currently working > on amd64 (in 64-bit mode, that is). I have repeatedly asked if anyone > will step up to the task and fix that, as I have an Adaptec > Zero-Channel RAID add-on-board for my dual opteron just collecting dust > at the moment, but the general answer is 'no time'... Too bad. > Then again, I have nothing but really REALLY bad experiences with > Adaptec IDE RAID solutions, so perhaps you should choose differently > there.. Most all the others are supported, and supported well afaik. > > /Eirik > > > (4) Seagate 200GB S-ATA Drives to be configured RAID 5 > > 2048MB DDR400 Non-ECC RAM > > DVD-ROM, floppy, etc... > > > > Just wondering if we should maintain i386/4.9 distribution and wait > > for the > > AMD64 platform to mature further into stability as the releases > > progress... > > or to jump on the FreeBSD 5.x.x bandwagon and go with a native AMD64 > > platform; so long as we can run Apache/mod_perl + mysql, things should > > be > > all good... or not? > > > > Any advice, suggestions (hardware or software) would be greatly > > appreciated, > > please either CC the list and reply, or vice-versa as we are not > > directly > > subscribed to the mailing list for -questions, only for amd64 - > > thank-you. > > > > -- > > Nathan Vidican > > itstaff@wmptl.com > > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. > > http://www.wmptl.com/ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > - Love over Gold - > > > > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 21:23:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD1916A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:23:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out008.verizon.net (out008pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3969043D41 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:23:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from atlnga1-ar3-4-33-228-225.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.33.228.225]) by out008.verizon.netESMTP <20041018212308.EOIN11892.out008.verizon.net@atlnga1-ar3-4-33-228-225.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net>; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:23:08 -0500 From: Dave Feustel To: Communications Machine , "Eirik =?iso-8859-1?q?=D8verby?=" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:19:21 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> <000401c4b554$ef186450$0300000a@transcon> In-Reply-To: <000401c4b554$ef186450$0300000a@transcon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410181619.21614.dfeustel@mindspring.com> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [4.33.228.225] at Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:23:08 -0500 cc: amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? (sources?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfeustel@mindspring.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:23:09 -0000 On Monday 18 October 2004 03:56 pm, Communications Machine wrote: > Anyone know-of / have / are a good > source for these boards? Need basic RAID 5 functionality with best support > possible, at a sub $500 pricetag for 4 channel serial ATA... Try Granite Digital at http://www.granitedigital.com/ -- Dave Feustel 1-260-422-5330 http://www.mindspring.com/~dfeustel From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 21:57:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DFF16A4CF; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:57:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216F843D2F; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:57:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9ILvL05006374; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9ILvJCN006373; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:57:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:57:19 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Eirik ?verby Message-ID: <20041018215719.GA5353@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Communications Machine cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:57:26 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:07:44PM +0200, Eirik ?verby wrote: > >Hey all, looking to upgrade a server used in a small business here, > >looking for opinions and advice about migrating to an AMD64 system, > >vs. using i386 box, also if it would not be just as feasible to use > >i386 distribution on AMD64 hardware simply for the speed? It is very feasible to run FreeBSD/i386 on AMD64 hardware. I encourage you to go ahead and move to AMD64 hardware regardless what version of FreeBSD you decide to run for now. You will get excellent performance, and you will have a 64-bit upgrade path when you decide to move 32-bit -> 64-bit. > >Here's what we're proposing for the new hardware: > >AMD Athlon64 - 3200+ (Socket 754 - I know, but it's cheap) > >MSI K8T-FSR (VIA Chipset) > >Adaptec AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller > > This one is gonna be tricky on you, I think. The driver used for most > Adaptec RAID controllers (IDE and SCSI alike) isn't currently working > on amd64 (in 64-bit mode, that is). I have repeatedly asked if anyone > will step up to the task and fix that, You're really exaggerating here. There are two families of Adaptec RAID controllers -- aac and asr. 'aac' family controllers are quite popular and are the higher performing of the two families. The AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller uses the aac(4) driver and the driver very much works on 64-bit machines. > as I have an Adaptec Zero-Channel RAID add-on-board for my dual opteron > just collecting dust at the moment, but the general answer is 'no > time'... Too bad. The Adaptec Zero-channel products are from the other product family. That particular driver has issues. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 22:01:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B9916A4CE; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:01:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ares.wolfpond.org (ns1.wolfpond.org [62.212.96.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B759F43D31; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:01:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ftigeot@wolfpond.org) Received: from aoi.wolfpond.org (aoi.wolfpond.org [IPv6:2001:7a8:24db:1:20c:76ff:feb4:27e1]) by ares.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9IM1Ax2085261; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:01:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot@aoi.wolfpond.org) Received: from aoi.wolfpond.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aoi.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9IM1L7A016238; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:01:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot@aoi.wolfpond.org) Received: (from ftigeot@localhost) by aoi.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9IM1LxZ016237; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:01:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:01:21 +0200 From: Francois Tigeot To: Communications Machine Message-ID: <20041018220121.GA15058@aoi.wolfpond.org> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:01:16 -0000 On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 03:19:40PM -0400, Communications Machine wrote: > > Here's what we're proposing for the new hardware: > > AMD Athlon64 - 3200+ (Socket 754 - I know, but it's cheap) > MSI K8T-FSR (VIA Chipset) > 2048MB DDR400 Non-ECC RAM In my experience trying to put more than 1GB RAM in a socket-754 mainboard is asking for trouble. This type of board is incredibly picky about its memory, especially when using more than two DIMMs. An Opteron platform may be a better choice here. -- Francois Tigeot From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 22:19:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF66A16A4CE; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:19:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA4743D2F; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:19:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from [192.168.245.231] ([213.112.167.165] [213.112.167.165]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP <20041018221933.GOHJ18265.mxfep01.bredband.com@[192.168.245.231]>; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:19:33 +0200 Message-ID: <417440EC.60707@bredband.net> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:17:16 +0200 From: Lars Tunkrans Organization: None User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francois Tigeot References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <20041018220121.GA15058@aoi.wolfpond.org> In-Reply-To: <20041018220121.GA15058@aoi.wolfpond.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: Communications Machine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:19:36 -0000 Francois Tigeot wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 03:19:40PM -0400, Communications Machine wrote: > >>Here's what we're proposing for the new hardware: >> >>AMD Athlon64 - 3200+ (Socket 754 - I know, but it's cheap) >>MSI K8T-FSR (VIA Chipset) >>2048MB DDR400 Non-ECC RAM > > > In my experience trying to put more than 1GB RAM in a socket-754 mainboard > is asking for trouble. This type of board is incredibly picky about its > memory, especially when using more than two DIMMs. > > An Opteron platform may be a better choice here. > Yes Toms hardware has an article on this: http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040112/index.html They say that only 3 out of 10 of the socket 754 mainboards worked with more than one DIMM. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 22:54:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7B416A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:54:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6103B43D5D for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so260565rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:54:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=makhjd5KwWHB32FKPwJOf6zBzmETkl7e0eLuFO3OR7sY3aPSclHM5C7ACfHcz3B+DU2GcfWjqfDNjGqlTjW22bPx0zpgT/Ux7Cox5sSxnb5AQYC9vxJUZvEDBsD7JxJBj8X0yrcdySjV2mg6Mvlxw2KgUHI3KzH3rKFldosQudc Received: by 10.38.152.19 with SMTP id z19mr1663395rnd; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:54:09 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:54:13 -0000 ok i think i understand the meaning of /usr/ports/distfiles/ i also think pkgfiles would be a beter name for it :P So there is only 1 kind of ports namely this one ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ not for example different amd64 source code ports or alpha source code ports ... they al point to the same source code. Is there a config file were i can chose a ftp mirror server ? Does the ports system use perl or is perl needed to use ports ? If so, why ? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 23:09:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D1A16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:09:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7BE43D64 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:09:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i9INAXE1010128; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:10:34 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id i9INAX1Y010127; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:10:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:10:33 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041018231033.GA9658@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:09:59 -0000 --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [This has NOTHING to do with amd64.] On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 12:54:09AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Is there a config file were i can chose a ftp mirror server ? Add something like the following to your /etc/make.conf to cause the ports collection to try a freebsd mirror server before other locations: MIRROR_PREFIX?=3Dfile://localhost/mirrors/ftp/pub MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE=3D${MIRROR_PREFIX}/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBD= IR}/ This example shows using an NFS mount of a local mirror as the default. > Does the ports system use perl or is perl needed to use ports ? If so, wh= y ? "make index" requires perl because no one has stepped up and produced a better solution. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBdE1pXY6L6fI4GtQRAliMAJ90hx3PvOPsyO/ixhiWWEiqT3j5MQCghlRU OBxfl9JNutInAxRwSE7xTiE= =KZi3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 23:18:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3670D16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:18:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86D143D1F for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so262796rnk for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:18:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TbzKPfZYr/syNosXi9x6sxVa6o/WNt40KsieIOweBJJtSgWGhjlyKjKzU5apjl/QeZ/63I8UR+ZJGInmo53E/r/bRHMHwdeLT0bYG4qkPmmJwcV4DZUnaZupTs3IvQLmbj7uiqqX1UegJvEDOeKn3+SaU+11DnHhXi3Pi+Eb17I Received: by 10.38.22.51 with SMTP id 51mr1679008rnv; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:18:55 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041018231033.GA9658@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> <20041018231033.GA9658@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:18:56 -0000 And what does make index do ? On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:10:33 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > [This has NOTHING to do with amd64.] > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 12:54:09AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > Is there a config file were i can chose a ftp mirror server ? > > Add something like the following to your /etc/make.conf to cause the > ports collection to try a freebsd mirror server before other locations: > > MIRROR_PREFIX?=file://localhost/mirrors/ftp/pub > MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE=${MIRROR_PREFIX}/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ > > This example shows using an NFS mount of a local mirror as the default. > > > Does the ports system use perl or is perl needed to use ports ? If so, why ? > > "make index" requires perl because no one has stepped up and produced a > better solution. > > -- Brooks > > -- > Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. > PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 > > > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 00:03:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C6616A4CE; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:03:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A49843D5A; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9J033wt009068; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9J032Qo009067; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:03:01 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Francois Tigeot Message-ID: <20041019000301.GA8256@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <20041018220121.GA15058@aoi.wolfpond.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041018220121.GA15058@aoi.wolfpond.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Communications Machine cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:03:07 -0000 On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 12:01:21AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: > > Here's what we're proposing for the new hardware: > > > > AMD Athlon64 - 3200+ (Socket 754 - I know, but it's cheap) > > MSI K8T-FSR (VIA Chipset) > > 2048MB DDR400 Non-ECC RAM > > In my experience trying to put more than 1GB RAM in a socket-754 mainboard > is asking for trouble. This type of board is incredibly picky about its > memory, especially when using more than two DIMMs. PC3200 by chance? DDR400 is has very close tolerances. I can easily used 3x PC2700 DIMMs in my socket-754 boards (that have 3 DIMM slots). The real message though, is to use DIMMs recommended by your motherboard manufacturer vs. what ever random crap RAM is in sale on pricewatch.com. If you do that, you can have 2048MB of DDR400 memory in an Athlon64 machine. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 06:57:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA52E16A4CE; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:57:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975E543D41; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:57:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.247.57] (helo=[192.168.99.66]) by hobbiton.shire.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.10) id 1CJnw2-0001uZ-00; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:57:30 -0600 In-Reply-To: <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Message-Id: <22C2CD15-219C-11D9-AA05-003065A70D30@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:57:26 -0600 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: Communications Machine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:57:30 -0000 On Oct 18, 2004, at 2:07 PM, Eirik =D8verby wrote: >> Adaptec AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller > > This one is gonna be tricky on you, I think. Should work fine. I was using a 2200S, which uses the same aac driver=20= under 5-CURRENT on amd64 a while back before I downgraded to i386=20 version. And I have a 2410SA (same aac driver) working on an i386 machine with=20= 5.2.1 or something like that :-) now. I know that that is not a 64bit=20= machine but according to Scott Long sometime back, the aac driver is 64=20= bit clean. Maybe the asr driver is not 64bit ok but the aac one seems to be fine Chad From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 08:17:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5B716A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:17:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from anduin.net (anduin.net [212.12.46.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A01143D46 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:17:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from mailnull by anduin.net with dspam-scanned (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJp89-0009lB-Uf for amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:14:05 +0200 Received: from mailnull by anduin.net with spamassassin-scanned (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJp88-0009ks-7P for amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:14:05 +0200 Received: from eirik.unicore.no ([213.225.74.166]) by anduin.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJp85-0009kh-Jh; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:14:01 +0200 From: Eirik Oeverby To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <22C2CD15-219C-11D9-AA05-003065A70D30@shire.net> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> <22C2CD15-219C-11D9-AA05-003065A70D30@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:17:29 +0200 Message-Id: <1098173849.38925.20.camel@eirik.unicore.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on anduin.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=7.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: Communications Machine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:17:10 -0000 On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 00:57 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > On Oct 18, 2004, at 2:07 PM, Eirik =D8verby wrote: >=20 > >> Adaptec AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller > > > > This one is gonna be tricky on you, I think. >=20 > Should work fine. I was using a 2200S, which uses the same aac driver=20 > under 5-CURRENT on amd64 a while back before I downgraded to i386=20 > version. Sorry, my mistake. That doesn't help my feeling that most Adaptec IDE RAID controllers are, in my experience (YMMV, and please excuse my language), utter crap, though. Highpoint, 3Ware, and even Promise are lightyears ahead when it comes to stability, supportability and performance (mainly due to the Adaptecs having a nasty tendency to spew interrupts like mad, making the system (interrupt) load go berzerk during heavy disk I/O). >=20 > And I have a 2410SA (same aac driver) working on an i386 machine with=20 > 5.2.1 or something like that :-) now. I know that that is not a 64bit=20 > machine but according to Scott Long sometime back, the aac driver is 64=20 > bit clean. >=20 > Maybe the asr driver is not 64bit ok but the aac one seems to be fine The asr is most definitely not ;) >=20 > Chad >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 09:44:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D0A16A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:44:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256E643D39 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:44:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@slightlystrange.org) Received: from www by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CJqXE-000GUf-K5 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:44:04 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.1 (proxying for 127.0.0.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dan); by catflap.slightlystrange.org with HTTP; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:44:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <61375.192.168.0.1.1098179044.squirrel@192.168.0.1> In-Reply-To: <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:44:04 +0100 (BST) From: "Daniel Bye" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: World Wide Web Owner Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@slightlystrange.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:44:08 -0000 On Mon, 18 October, 2004 6:24 pm, David O'Brien said: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 06:40:42PM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: >> why do you guys always start talking chinese, i am a teletubie and >> teletubies dont talk chinise. >> >> I dont know why but it works now ? No more error except when i run >> cvsup i get this bla bla bla not found bla bla bla... relax Chris just >> kidding :) >> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1:shared object "libm.so.2" not found required by >> "cvsup" > > You have the old version of the port -- pre-2004/10/11 22:10:58. > >> So i gues this would fix it ? >> ee /etc/libmap.conf >> >> [/usr/local/bin/cvsup] >> libm.so.3 libm.so.2 > > Get the latest /usr/ports/net/cvsup, 'make deinstall install clean', then > remove the libmap.conf entries before you forget about them and run into > problems later. Ack! Sorry all - misread the error message in the OP's mail. I had the /opposite/ problem - newly-installed 5.2.1-RELEASE (which still uses libm.so.2) and the latest ports.tar.gz. The version of cvsup from this wants libm.so.3 - so in these circumstances, what I did was a way around it. But no good at all for Gert... My apologies for any confusion. Must pay more attention! Now who's a teletubby? :-S Dan -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 10:38:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC18216A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:38:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lon-mail-2.gradwell.net (lon-mail-2.gradwell.net [193.111.201.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E5F43D55 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:38:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cbh-freebsd-current@groups.chrishedley.com) X-Gradwell-Debug: delivering mail for [amd64@freebsd.org] to mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]:25 Received: from cpc2-oxfd4-4-0-cust119.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [80.3.246.119] (helo: mail.cbhnet)1.137) id 4174eea4.a6ed.33 for amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:38:28 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cbhnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052EE31B018 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:09:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.cbhnet ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cbhnet [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04613-07 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:09:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from teapot.cbhnet (teapot.cbhnet [192.168.1.1]) by mail.cbhnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABD731AFF6 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:09:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:09:33 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Hedley X-X-Sender: cbh@teapot.cbhnet In-Reply-To: <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> Message-ID: <20041019075735.C866@teapot.cbhnet> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-962440433-1098169773=:866" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at chrishedley.com cc: amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:38:29 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-962440433-1098169773=:866 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Mon, 18 Oct 2004, Eirik =D8verby wrote: > This one is gonna be tricky on you, I think. The driver used for most Ada= ptec=20 > RAID controllers (IDE and SCSI alike) isn't currently working on amd64 (i= n=20 > 64-bit mode, that is). I have repeatedly asked if anyone will step up to = the=20 > task and fix that, as I have an Adaptec Zero-Channel RAID add-on-board fo= r my=20 > dual opteron just collecting dust at the moment, but the general answer i= s=20 > 'no time'... Too bad. I've found that the driver for the 2410SA (aac) works fine in 64-bit mode;= =20 although I'm not compiling for amd64 right now, but (lack of) problems=20 with the 2410SA isn't the reason. > Then again, I have nothing but really REALLY bad experiences with Adaptec= IDE=20 > RAID solutions, so perhaps you should choose differently there.. Most all= the=20 > others are supported, and supported well afaik. The card seems reliable enough once it's up and running, although getting= =20 it configured can be a major headache as the configuration software is=20 terrible and the card itself seems prone to crashing when being configured= =20 (even using the BIOS menus). That, and taking forever to build an array=20 (8 hours for a 400GB RAID-10 seems excessive) and terribly slow write=20 speeds (~7MB/sec for sequential writes to a RAID-10 array - something is=20 seriously wrong with its design for the performance to be _that_ bad.=20 That's the same with different OSes and on different MBs/CPUs as well, so= =20 it's not a FreeBSD or incompatability issue) means I personally wouldn't=20 consider buying another one. The OP is probably better off looking=20 elsewhere. (The hot-swap box is nice, though, although it transpires=20 that's made by SuperMicro, not Adaptec). Chris. --0-962440433-1098169773=:866-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 13:18:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E7816A4CE; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:18:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A22043D5A; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:18:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.247.57] (helo=[192.168.99.66]) by hobbiton.shire.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.10) id 1CJtsu-000Bf3-00; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:18:40 -0600 In-Reply-To: <1098173849.38925.20.camel@eirik.unicore.no> References: <000501c4b547$6a577b00$0300000a@transcon> <5F8020A8-2141-11D9-A8A9-000D9335BCEC@anduin.net> <22C2CD15-219C-11D9-AA05-003065A70D30@shire.net> <1098173849.38925.20.camel@eirik.unicore.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Message-Id: <61E4B436-21D1-11D9-AA05-003065A70D30@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:18:35 -0600 To: Eirik Oeverby X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: cc: amd64@freebsd.org cc: Communications Machine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Upgrade feasibility, to AMD64/5.x.x or to stay i386/4.9 on AMD64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:18:40 -0000 On Oct 19, 2004, at 2:17 AM, Eirik Oeverby wrote: > On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 00:57 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >> On Oct 18, 2004, at 2:07 PM, Eirik =D8verby wrote: >> >>>> Adaptec AAC-2410SA 4-Port S-ATA RAID Controller >>> >>> This one is gonna be tricky on you, I think. >> >> Should work fine. I was using a 2200S, which uses the same aac = driver >> under 5-CURRENT on amd64 a while back before I downgraded to i386 >> version. > > Sorry, my mistake. > That doesn't help my feeling that most Adaptec IDE RAID controllers=20 > are, > in my experience (YMMV, and please excuse my language), utter crap, > though. Highpoint, 3Ware, and even Promise are lightyears ahead when = it > comes to stability, supportability and performance (mainly due to the > Adaptecs having a nasty tendency to spew interrupts like mad, making=20= > the > system (interrupt) load go berzerk during heavy disk I/O). > This has not been my experience. I have been running the 2100S (asr)=20 on i386 under 4.x for years now and they are rock solid very high=20 performing cards in my experience. My lesser experience with the 2200S=20= (aac) also shows it to be high performing and solid, though my boxes=20 with 2200S and 2410SA are still in test mode. I don't work for adaptec and am sometimes even greatly annoyed by them,=20= but their cards have served me well. I must say I am interested in the Highpoint 1820A SATA raid card=20 though. Anyone use that one and is it bootable under i386 or amd64? Thanks Chad From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 15:42:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D508316A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:42:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.pragmeta.com (mx1.pragmeta.com [216.230.164.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F03E43D41 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:42:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jendries@pragmeta.com) Received: from [10.0.0.201] (host-64-246-146-151.ubr0.dc1-alb.inoc.net [64.246.146.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.pragmeta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9937F55F04C for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417535F5.4040003@pragmeta.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:42:45 -0400 From: Josh Endries User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041006) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dual Opteron AMD64 MySQL server performance/RAID card questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:42:56 -0000 Hi all, I have a shiny new dual Opteron system to mold into a MySQL server. The machine has a U320 10k 70 GB RAID 5 array (LSI MegaRAID 320-1), 2 GB RAM. I'm wondering the best way to go about this. I'm using FreeBSD 5 (duh), actually 5.3-BETA7 right now, and the mysql41-server port. MySQL 4.1 works out of the box, and I think is using both CPUs, yay! My method of testing this is running super-smack and watching top's kernel thread display, looking for CPU0 and CPU1 in the state column, though not necessarily at the same time (I don't think I've ever seen that). Not very realiable heh, but I dunno how else to check for that. I ran some tests using super-smack's select-key and update-select smack files, 100 clients * 100 queries. I found that there was very little difference between MySQL 4.0 and 4.1, 4BSD and ULE, "-DWITH_OPENSSL -DBUILD_OPTIMIZED" and "-DWITH_OPENSSL -DBUILD_OPTIMIZED -DWITH_PROC_SCOPE_PTH". I got ~1330 and ~660 queries/sec, +/- 20, (respectively) for all kernel/build flag configurations. Probably all sorts of problems with this test, but I just wanted an idea if what it could do. What I'm wondering is: are there any reasons to use one configuration over the other (ULE vs. 4BSD), or are there any other considerations for a server like this? Other optimizations? My other concern is the RAID. I haven't found any utilities or anything to monitor the RAID state and report or fix, rebuild, etc. without rebooting into the BIOS. Are there any SCSI RAID cards that support this in FreeBSD? Thanks, Josh From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 17:40:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EF516A4CF; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9406C43D58; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i9JHeELs088213; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:14 GMT (envelope-from obrien@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9JHe9Wq088209; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:09 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:09 GMT From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <200410191740.i9JHe9Wq088209@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nechit@lpi.ru, obrien@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: amd64/72445: mount_smbfs gives Bus error (core dumped) with -E option X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:14 -0000 Synopsis: mount_smbfs gives Bus error (core dumped) with -E option State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: obrien State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 19 17:39:47 GMT 2004 State-Changed-Why: Committed fix by Stasys Smailys . http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=72445 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 17:40:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C898B16A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2D943D2F for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9JHeNS5004998; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9JHeLoO004997; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:40:21 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Stasys Smailys Message-ID: <20041019174021.GA4836@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20041009142847.C125FBE47@mail.komvista.lt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041009142847.C125FBE47@mail.komvista.lt> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: amd64/72445: mount_smbfs gives Bus error (core dumped) with -E option X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:40:25 -0000 On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 04:28:47PM +0200, Stasys Smailys wrote: > Size matters. Patch is attached. Thanks! Committed. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 21:16:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E518E16A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:16:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xraided.net (ns1.gadoz.com [66.88.26.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C059443D53 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:16:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kyle@xraided.net) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 Received: from [216.160.115.216] (account kyle HELO kyledesktop) by xraided.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 1911553 for freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:16:41 -0700 From: "Kyle Mott" To: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:16:41 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c4b620$ede764b0$150ba8c0@kyledesktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <200410191740.i9JHe9Wq088209@freefall.freebsd.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: ProLiant DL585 Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:16:43 -0000 I have a customer who is looking to obtain 2 of these machines: http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl585/ (Please forgive me if it's tacky to post links like that to the list). I was wondering how well FreeBSD-AMD64 would run on this system and how stable it would be? I noticed its 4 processor capable, but it will only be coming with 2 processors initially. Thoughts? Does anyone have any experience with these machines? -Kyle Mott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 21:34:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439A316A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:34:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A4443D1F for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:34:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from [192.168.245.231] ([213.112.167.165] [213.112.167.165]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20041019213441.QZIM18265.mxfep01.bredband.com@[192.168.245.231]> for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:34:41 +0200 Message-ID: <417587E6.9090706@bredband.net> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:32:22 +0200 From: Lars Tunkrans Organization: None User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RC1 installed with no problems ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:34:44 -0000 I had a clean install of 5.3 RC1 AMD64 No missing packages Xorg installs and works after manual configuration. Gnome-lite and and KDE-lite installs from boot CD and works . Will try to build som ports tomorrow night. //Lars From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 23:38:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C73216A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:38:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110D643D46 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:38:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so394241rnk for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:38:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=L7uOdC5un/n8yfhOmPUx7SbeJkw2Qfl0Est4RISwP75abXH9O3cN5nRy8eXX1oEHzybuDp2//+TnbsOpO+TLXkvRTcg3N+GI1g+Aj5Fwx74RUI2vHCBVdfWmbMfejH7ovRnrktQeW+k8RBjdpKC+xwJfrmWnCoYrQSGwz2CR9H4 Received: by 10.38.13.67 with SMTP id 67mr159292rnm; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:38:17 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <61375.192.168.0.1.1098179044.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410181646.44654.howells@kde.org> <4173EAE2.9050001@pragmeta.com> <57979.192.168.0.1.1098116798.squirrel@192.168.0.1> <20041018172419.GC5179@dragon.nuxi.com> <61375.192.168.0.1.1098179044.squirrel@192.168.0.1> Subject: Re: cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:38:18 -0000 No problem it works now :) Next mission is to get some sound in teletubby land :) On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:44:04 +0100 (BST), Daniel Bye wrote: > > > > On Mon, 18 October, 2004 6:24 pm, David O'Brien said: > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 06:40:42PM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > >> why do you guys always start talking chinese, i am a teletubie and > >> teletubies dont talk chinise. > >> > >> I dont know why but it works now ? No more error except when i run > >> cvsup i get this bla bla bla not found bla bla bla... relax Chris just > >> kidding :) > >> > >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1:shared object "libm.so.2" not found required by > >> "cvsup" > > > > You have the old version of the port -- pre-2004/10/11 22:10:58. > > > >> So i gues this would fix it ? > >> ee /etc/libmap.conf > >> > >> [/usr/local/bin/cvsup] > >> libm.so.3 libm.so.2 > > > > Get the latest /usr/ports/net/cvsup, 'make deinstall install clean', then > > remove the libmap.conf entries before you forget about them and run into > > problems later. > > Ack! Sorry all - misread the error message in the OP's mail. I had the > /opposite/ problem - newly-installed 5.2.1-RELEASE (which still uses > libm.so.2) and the latest ports.tar.gz. The version of cvsup from this > wants libm.so.3 - so in these circumstances, what I did was a way around > it. But no good at all for Gert... > > My apologies for any confusion. Must pay more attention! Now who's a > teletubby? :-S > > > > Dan > > -- > Daniel Bye > > PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc > PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML, vCards and X > - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 13:59:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DB716A4CE for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:59:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wmptl.net (mail.wmptl.com [216.8.159.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2F743D2D for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:59:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ITStaff@wmptl.com) Received: from transcon ([10.0.0.3]) by wmptl.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i9LDxVAp035565 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c4b776$03d2ff40$0300000a@transcon> From: "Communications Machine" To: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:58:16 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Spam-Score: -100 () USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.30 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: How to install snapshot release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Communications Machine List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:59:33 -0000 Odd question here, but have been unable to figure this one out... Downloaded the 'current' snapshot from snapshots.jp.freebsd.org, but how do I create a bootable cdrom from this stuff? I am trying to do an install based on a snapshot, as my system (Compaq R3140CA laptop) has issues with the -RELEASE level on account of the ACPI keyboard probe, which has apparently been fixed/patched in -current. Any guidance would be great... does anyone happen to have a valid .iso image or know of where one could be found for an AMD64 -current installation cd, or even better yet, a script or article on how to create one myself? Hoping someone can help.... -- Nathan Vidican itstaff@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 14:12:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD0116A4CE for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:12:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorax.ldc.upenn.edu (lorax.LDC.upenn.edu [158.130.16.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1657C43D1D for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:12:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fuzz@ldc.upenn.edu) Received: by lorax.ldc.upenn.edu (Postfix, from userid 32822) id 64F12B24D9; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorax.ldc.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D77FB24D8; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:12:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason M. Leonard" To: Communications Machine In-Reply-To: <000501c4b776$03d2ff40$0300000a@transcon> Message-ID: <20041021100804.W13666@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu> References: <000501c4b776$03d2ff40$0300000a@transcon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install snapshot release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:12:40 -0000 On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Communications Machine wrote: > Odd question here, but have been unable to figure this one out... > > Downloaded the 'current' snapshot from snapshots.jp.freebsd.org, but how do > I create a bootable cdrom from this stuff? You may find this helpful: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.html > I am trying to do an install based on a snapshot, as my system (Compaq > R3140CA laptop) has issues with the -RELEASE level on account of the ACPI > keyboard probe, which has apparently been fixed/patched in -current. However, if this is your only motivation then you would probably be better off with 5.3-RC1, which is available here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.3/ Or, even better, download it from your closest local mirror site. :Fuzz > Any guidance would be great... does anyone happen to have a valid .iso image > or know of where one could be found for an AMD64 -current installation cd, > or even better yet, a script or article on how to create one myself? > > Hoping someone can help.... > > > -- > Nathan Vidican > itstaff@wmptl.com > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. > http://www.wmptl.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 18:57:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED2616A4CE for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:57:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550F443D39 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:57:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9LIvAkg037720; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9LIv9dM037719; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:57:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:57:09 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Communications Machine Message-ID: <20041021185709.GB37500@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <000501c4b776$03d2ff40$0300000a@transcon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c4b776$03d2ff40$0300000a@transcon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install snapshot release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:57:11 -0000 On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 09:58:16AM -0400, Communications Machine wrote: > Odd question here, but have been unable to figure this one out... > > Downloaded the 'current' snapshot from snapshots.jp.freebsd.org, but how do > I create a bootable cdrom from this stuff? If you have SCSI or ATAPICAM: # cdrecord -scanbus # cdrecord -v dev= foo.iso Or if you have pure ATA burner, 'man burncd' the exact line to use is in the examples. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 19:07:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D97716A4CE; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:07:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wmptl.net (mail.wmptl.com [216.8.159.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FFE43D1F; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ITStaff@wmptl.com) Received: from transcon ([10.0.0.3]) by wmptl.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i9LJ7jiO044186; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001301c4b7a1$133a6bf0$0300000a@transcon> From: "Communications Machine" To: References: <000501c4b776$03d2ff40$0300000a@transcon> <20041021185709.GB37500@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:06:31 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Spam-Score: -105.3 () MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SWISS_WATCHES,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.30 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Re: How to install snapshot release? - (not how to burn cd; but rather how to make new ISO file) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Communications Machine List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:07:48 -0000 I think you mis-understood me; there isn't an .iso image file to burn. I do know how to burn one if such an image existed; it's generating the .iso image file in the firstplace that I'm trying to figure out... I need to download the snapshot release for the AMD64 platform, and there doesn't appear to be any ready-made ISO-IMAGES for that platform, so back to my original question... how does one take the snapshot release downloaded from snapshots.jp.freebsd.org, and generate a bootable cdrom or cdrom image file? (I know how to use mkisofs; more or less generating the boot image I can't seem to get)... Anyone? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David O'Brien" To: "Communications Machine" Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: How to install snapshot release? > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 09:58:16AM -0400, Communications Machine wrote: > > Odd question here, but have been unable to figure this one out... > > > > Downloaded the 'current' snapshot from snapshots.jp.freebsd.org, but how do > > I create a bootable cdrom from this stuff? > > If you have SCSI or ATAPICAM: > > # cdrecord -scanbus > # cdrecord -v dev= foo.iso > > Or if you have pure ATA burner, 'man burncd' the exact line to use is in > the examples. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 21:08:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6B216A4CE for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:08:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ECB43D48 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:08:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9LL83xW083960; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:08:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9LL82R7083958; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:08:02 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Communications Machine Message-ID: <20041021210802.GA83930@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <000501c4b776$03d2ff40$0300000a@transcon> <20041021185709.GB37500@dragon.nuxi.com> <001301c4b7a1$133a6bf0$0300000a@transcon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001301c4b7a1$133a6bf0$0300000a@transcon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install snapshot release? - (not how to burn cd; but rather how to make new ISO file) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:08:04 -0000 On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:06:31PM -0400, Communications Machine wrote: > I think you mis-understood me; there isn't an .iso image file to burn. I do .. > Anyone? Ah! I should probably bulid an AMD64 6-CURRENT snapshot. Let me wait until the libreadline 5.0 import clean up is finished and see if I can't build a 6-CURRENT snapshot this weekend. For 5.3 there are plenty of ISO's available as part of the offical release cycle. Until then, one wanting to install FreeBSD on an AMD64 right now should go to ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ and use the latest RC(beta). Then install /usr/ports/net/cvsup port and get the latest sources and 'make world' upgrade to 6-CURRENT. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 22 03:11:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7E516A4CE for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61110.mail.yahoo.com (web61110.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7793F43D2F for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:11:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdsmb@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041022031145.23130.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.112.126.60] by web61110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:11:44 PDT Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: BSD Samba To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: status of Linux-base kld in 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:11:46 -0000 Guys (and Gals) - I don't want to interupt the work going on with getting 5.3 release ready. From the dabbling I've done in the past couple of weeks, I love it! I'm currently rebuilding my BSD machine, with a new amd64 processor - trying to use 5.3 amd64 BETA7. I've run into trouble, though getting linux_base and the KLD working. I've seen some mention in the release notes that it isn't (or wasn't) quite ready. Does anyone know whether in 5.3 RC1 which appears to have been uploaded to the ftp site merely days ago, will I be able to get linux_base working, in order to get jkd14 going, in order to get openoffice compiled...? Thanks for any insight. I love my amd64, and I'd much prefer to run the amd64 than the i386 version of BSD. Cheers, - Chris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 22 09:34:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BE216A4CE for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:34:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au (smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.76.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A8B43D39 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:34:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@robbins.dropbear.id.au) Received: from robbins.dropbear.id.au (210.50.217.174) by smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au (7.0.031.3) id 416A62D20052558F; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:34:41 +1000 Received: by robbins.dropbear.id.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 721924256; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:34:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:34:39 +1000 From: Tim Robbins To: BSD Samba Message-ID: <20041022093439.GA15304@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> References: <20041022031145.23130.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041022031145.23130.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: status of Linux-base kld in 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:34:43 -0000 On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 08:11:44PM -0700, BSD Samba wrote: > Guys (and Gals) - > > I don't want to interupt the work going on with > getting 5.3 release ready. From the dabbling I've > done in the past couple of weeks, I love it! I'm > currently rebuilding my BSD machine, with a new amd64 > processor - trying to use 5.3 amd64 BETA7. > > I've run into trouble, though getting linux_base and > the KLD working. I've seen some mention in the > release notes that it isn't (or wasn't) quite ready. > > Does anyone know whether in 5.3 RC1 which appears to > have been uploaded to the ftp site merely days ago, > will I be able to get linux_base working, in order to > get jkd14 going, in order to get openoffice > compiled...? > > Thanks for any insight. I love my amd64, and I'd much > prefer to run the amd64 than the i386 version of BSD. My understanding is that the Linux emulation bits and pieces in the ports collection are not fully usable on amd64 at the moment. Additionally, it isn't yet possible to build the Linux emulator as a module on amd64; it has to be compiled into the kernel. I put these notes together a few months ago on how to get the Linux versions of OpenOffice.org and Java running on FreeBSD: http://people.freebsd.org/~tjr/linux32.html Tim From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 09:36:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A0C16A4CE for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.trippynames.com (mail.trippynames.com [38.113.223.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AA143D3F for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@chittenden.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.trippynames.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B542BA6C5F for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.trippynames.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rand.nxad.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 56793-08 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (wbar4.sjo1-4.28.216.220.sjo1.dsl-verizon.net [4.28.216.220]) by mail.trippynames.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8D4A6C14 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Sean Chittenden Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:36:20 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Complaints regarding amd64 and FreeBSD 5.X... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:36:25 -0000 I just installed 5.3-RC1 and things went beautifully. sysinstall is rather obnoxious when fdisk'ing a 1.5TB drive/array with that popup message (need to set a static variable so that it only pops it up once per session instead of after every keystroke). Anyway, no matter how large the build is (world is done in under 30min now), I can't walk away for hours at a time and retain a sense of satisfaction that the computer is doing something while I'm away. By the time I return, the machine is idle. In many cases, it's idle by the time I stand up. Going from no ports installed to a completed PostgreSQL install takes less than 3 minutes. Thanks for nothing. I needed a guilt free trip to the bathroom or the vending machine. Other complaints include: *) needing to turn off quick boot that way I have a chance of pushing delete in time so I can enter the bios *) getting frustrated with writing down and looking at 64bit addresses. "No one needs more than 4GB of RAM in a server anyway." *) an admin at my data center was sufficiently impressed with how everything "just worked" for amd64 on FreeBSD, whereas Linux 2.6 was a struggle to compile and still doesn't work correctly. I lost my freshly burnt 5.3-RC1 disk as a result of this group's competence. Since the liability for said competence sits squarely on the shoulders of this group, where can I write to get my $0.50 refunded? One used to get milage out of the "working hard, or hardly working" addage. Now I can't help but dream of the latter and the freedom one had to do other things while something compiled over night. Exceedingly pleased, Sean From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 10:38:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2B516A4CE for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:38:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tibor.swiftdsl.com.au (tibor.swiftdsl.com.au [202.154.92.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715B043D1F for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:38:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mv@roq.com) Received: (qmail 7385 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2004 10:42:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.55]) ([218.214.143.85]) (envelope-sender ) by tibor.swiftdsl.com.au (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Oct 2004 10:42:25 -0000 Message-ID: <417A3495.8020802@roq.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:38:13 +1000 From: Michael Vince User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Complaints regarding amd64 and FreeBSD 5.X... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:38:04 -0000 Sean Chittenden wrote: > I just installed 5.3-RC1 and things went beautifully. sysinstall is > rather obnoxious when fdisk'ing a 1.5TB drive/array with that popup > message (need to set a static variable so that it only pops it up once > per session instead of after every keystroke). Anyway, no matter how > large the build is (world is done in under 30min now), I can't walk > away for hours at a time and retain a sense of satisfaction that the > computer is doing something while I'm away. By the time I return, the > machine is idle. In many cases, it's idle by the time I stand up. > Going from no ports installed to a completed PostgreSQL install takes > less than 3 minutes. Thanks for nothing. I needed a guilt free trip > to the bathroom or the vending machine. Other complaints include: > > *) needing to turn off quick boot that way I have a chance of pushing > delete in time so I can enter the bios > *) getting frustrated with writing down and looking at 64bit > addresses. "No one needs more than 4GB of RAM in a server anyway." What if your a JSP hosting service that runs multiple tomcats through apache, Java processes nicely eat 200megs per tomcat. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 11:55:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957DF16A4CE for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:55:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C393D43D45 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from [192.168.245.231] ([213.112.167.92] [213.112.167.92]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20041023115542.MNUH44.mxfep02.bredband.com@[192.168.245.231]> for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:55:42 +0200 Message-ID: <417A462D.5060109@bredband.net> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 13:53:17 +0200 From: Lars Tunkrans Organization: None User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20041022031145.23130.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> <20041022093439.GA15304@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20041022093439.GA15304@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Attempt to get linux emulation going on AMD64 5.3-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:55:51 -0000 Hello, I attemted to get linux emulation going in AMD64 5.3-RC1 I put the varaiables in the Kernel config file, rebuild and reloaded. options LINPROCFS options COMPAT_43 options COMPAT_LINUX32 I edited /etc/fstab for linprocfs and set linux_enabled="YES" in rc.conf I used Francois Tigeot's patch for emulators/linux_base And Installed linux_base without problems. -------------- next part -------------- --- Makefile.orig Wed Oct 6 15:13:33 2004 +++ Makefile Wed Oct 6 16:05:51 2004 @@ -110,6 +110,9 @@ RPM= LC_ALL=C rpm RPMFLAGS= --root ${LINUXBASE} --dbpath ${DBPATH} --nodeps \ --replacepkgs --ignoreos --ignorearch +.if (${ARCH} == "amd64") +RPMFLAGS+= --noscripts +.endif RPMDIR= ${DISTDIR}/${DIST_SUBDIR} REMOVE_DIRS= boot dev home root tmp var/tmp usr/local usr/tmp @@ -118,7 +121,7 @@ etc/protocols BRAND_FILES= bin/rpm sbin/ldconfig sbin/sln -FALLBACK_ELF_MIB= kern.fallback_elf_brand +FALLBACK_ELF_MIB= kern.elf32.fallback_brand LINUX_ELF= 3 PREVIOUS_ELF!= /sbin/sysctl -n ${FALLBACK_ELF_MIB} ---------------------------------------------------- After a second Reboot all seems well and boot_messages reports "additional ABI support: Linux " Then I used Tim Robbins instructions for installing linux acrobat. http://people.freebsd.org/~tjr/linux32.html When trying to start acrobat it says: acroread: error while loading shared libraries: libXt.so.6 cannot open shared objectfile : No such file or directory. That is not true since /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 does exist. Therefore I assume something is not right with the library searchpath. Where or How do I edit the library searchpath for the linux emulator ? Regards //Lars From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 14:59:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5245516A4CE for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:59:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AD443D45 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:59:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnewbie@freenet.de) Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CLNMW-00054F-00; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:59:20 +0200 Received: from [217.234.218.97] (helo=[192.168.10.100]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CLNMV-00021u-00; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:59:20 +0200 Message-ID: <417A715E.1020500@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:57:34 +0200 From: Manuel Stuehn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Tunkrans References: <20041022031145.23130.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> <20041022093439.GA15304@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <417A462D.5060109@bredband.net> In-Reply-To: <417A462D.5060109@bredband.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:599aa05e1f3f8231fce0632e961004a8 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Attempt to get linux emulation going on AMD64 5.3-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:59:22 -0000 Lars Tunkrans wrote: > acroread: error while loading shared libraries: libXt.so.6 cannot open > shared objectfile : No such file or directory. > > That is not true since /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 does > exist. > Therefore I assume something is not right with the library searchpath. > Where or How do I edit the library searchpath for the linux emulator ? # cd /usr/compat/linux # echo '/usr/X11R6/lib' > etc/ld.so.conf # brandelf -t Linux sbin/ldconfig # sbin/ldconfig should help... Regards Manuel From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 15:07:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFA116A4CE; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:07:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EBA43D41; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9NF7gcJ027301; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:07:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-current.sentex.ca (freebsd-current.sentex.ca [64.7.128.98]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9NF7gJV007628; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:07:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: by freebsd-current.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 666) id 76DD47306E; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20041023150742.76DD47306E@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:07:44 -0000 TB --- 2004-10-23 14:18:56 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2004-10-23 14:18:56 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-10-23 14:18:56 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2004-10-23 14:18:56 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-10-23 14:18:56 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2004-10-23 14:30:24 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2004-10-23 14:30:24 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src TB --- 2004-10-23 14:30:24 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries [...] /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb/../../contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/mbuf.c: In function `mb_put_uint32be': /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb/../../contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/mbuf.c:254: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb/../../contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/mbuf.c: In function `mb_put_uint32le': /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb/../../contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/mbuf.c:262: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb/../../contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/mbuf.c: In function `mb_put_int64be': /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb/../../contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/mbuf.c:270: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb/../../contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/mbuf.c: In function `mb_put_int64le': /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb/../../contrib/smbfs/lib/smb/mbuf.c:278: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib/libsmb. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. TB --- 2004-10-23 15:07:42 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-10-23 15:07:42 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2004-10-23 15:07:42 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 15:20:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB1B16A4CE for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:20:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7714343D2D for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from [192.168.245.231] ([213.112.167.92] [213.112.167.92]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20041023152030.ORFQ4883.mxfep01.bredband.com@[192.168.245.231]>; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:20:30 +0200 Message-ID: <417A762D.7030302@bredband.net> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:18:05 +0200 From: Lars Tunkrans Organization: None User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manuel Stuehn , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20041022031145.23130.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> <20041022093439.GA15304@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <417A462D.5060109@bredband.net> <417A715E.1020500@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <417A715E.1020500@freenet.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Attempt to get linux emulation going on AMD64 5.3-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:20:33 -0000 Manuel Stuehn wrote: > Lars Tunkrans wrote: > >> acroread: error while loading shared libraries: libXt.so.6 cannot open >> shared objectfile : No such file or directory. >> >> That is not true since /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 >> does exist. >> Therefore I assume something is not right with the library searchpath. >> Where or How do I edit the library searchpath for the linux emulator ? > > > > # cd /usr/compat/linux > # echo '/usr/X11R6/lib' > etc/ld.so.conf > # brandelf -t Linux sbin/ldconfig > # sbin/ldconfig > > should help... > > Regards > Manuel > Yes that makes it run ! Thanks alot ! I assume then that this is somehow preconfigured under i386 as it does not need to be done manually under i386. Regards //Lars From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 21:13:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB84316A508 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:13:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.sbb.co.yu (mail.sbb.co.yu [82.117.194.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E054643D1F for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ggajic@mail.sbb.co.yu) Received: from mail.sbb.co.yu (mail.sbb.co.yu [82.117.194.7]) by mail.sbb.co.yu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9NLDlsF021407 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:13:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:13:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Goran Gajic To: freebsd-amd64@www.freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1297816301-1098566027=:99910" X-Sbb.co.yu-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Sbb.co.yu-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: FBSD 5.3RC1 on Fujitsu Siemenes CELSIUS X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:13:52 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1297816301-1098566027=:99910 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi, I have installed FreeBSD 5.3RC1 on Fujitsu Siemenes Celsius. First problem I had was with sk0. It stops responding and all I can do is ifconfig sk0 down and then ifconfig sk0 up to reset it. Second, server reboots without reason. What can I do to provide more information about spontanious reboots. I'm also sending pciconf -vl as attachment. I didn't compiled kernel I'm using GENERIC. 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Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:40:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from odin.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.33] (helo=localhost) by pandora.cs.kun.nl (8.12.10/4.23) with ESMTP id i9NLe9GZ026826 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:40:09 +0200 (MEST) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:39:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.50 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410232339.02777.groot@kde.org> Subject: Re: FBSD 5.3RC1 on Fujitsu Siemenes CELSIUS X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:40:11 -0000 On Saturday 23 October 2004 23:13, Goran Gajic wrote: > I have installed FreeBSD 5.3RC1 on Fujitsu Siemenes Celsius. First problem > I had was with sk0. It stops responding and all I can do is ifconfig sk0 > down and then ifconfig sk0 up to reset it. Second, server reboots without Have you any idea what motherboard is in there? The Asus K8V SE has a wonky sk0 that fails exactly like that under any kind of load; there is not much you can do about it (search the list archives for more about this). -- Don't worry, 't ain't no shame to be stupid - ol' mouse. GPG: FEA2 A3FE Adriaan de Groot