From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 04:38:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C4C16A4CF; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:38:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE30D43D5C; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:38:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5R4cAfj044803; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:08:11 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:08:06 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040626013553.GA22207@thai-aec.org> In-Reply-To: <20040626013553.GA22207@thai-aec.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200406271408.06114.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -5.2 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can not make ltmdm ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 04:38:55 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:05, pirat wrote: > my laptop is dell inspiron 1100 with Conexant D480 MDC modem controller. > i tried to compile ltmdm from ports but strange enough, it failed. i spe= nt > about 2 months in looking or searching from internet if there were > any one else can use that modem in that machin with freebsd. That modem isn't supported by the ltmdm port (and never will be) > finally, i have to come back to my box and decide to make from ports. > as mentioned above, make failed. can any one please helps me or explains > me why do make failed ? Recent changes to the kernel broke it, I have a patch, but as I said above = it=20 won't help you anyway. PS if you'd asked me (as the port maintainer) directly I could have answere= d=20 it faster. =2D --=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA3k8u5ZPcIHs/zowRAt0oAJ93vhTj91IGFeFeouKVcDv56JL1WQCeJRWN GuNMhQNspGiSMpw3/ScRJBk=3D =3DAuJh =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 05:25:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D2A16A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:25:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3B143D48 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:25:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5R5M3Sj039396 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:22:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:22:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040626.232221.11622000.imp@bsdimp.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HEADS UP: Poll on sysv and ibcs emulation X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:25:07 -0000 The FreeBSD core team would like to conduct a poll about the use of sysv and ibcs emulations. If you are presently using the sysv emulation , please send a description of your usage (what applications, how many users, etc) to: imp+sysv@bsdimp.com If you are presently using the ibcs emulation, please send a description of your usage (what applications, how many users, etc) to: imp+ibcs@bsdimp.com I'll summarize the usage levels in a report to core@ and will pass along a copy to whomever desires to see it. There is currently a discussion about these emulators in current@. Interested parties are invited to read that thread and comment as appropriate. It would be better to have one thread there than a thread here and a thread there. Thanks for your feedback. Warner From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 13:09:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77FC16A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:09:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (natnoddy.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D209943D39 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:09:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from tantalus.local (port-212-202-37-98.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.37.98]) by post.webmailer.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5RD9dSd018960; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:09:40 +0200 (MEST) Received: from alpha (alpha.local [192.168.1.2]) by tantalus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A80A114152F; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:09:44 +0000 (GMT) From: "Bjoern Koenig" To: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:09:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcRcQQAG+V0qmnOkT8SqpbJb2fr3gQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-Id: <20040627130944.4A80A114152F@tantalus.local> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FE750, SATA and 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:09:44 -0000 Francis PALLINI wrote: > We plan to install FreeBSD on two Dell PE750 > with RAID 1 CERC SATA (6 channels). There is > something I didn't understand in the thread > about this matter: what about 4.10-RELEASE? > > aac(4) says it supports "CERC SATA RAID 2", > does that mean 4.10-RELEASE will rock? So, if it is supported by aac(4) then it will work in most cases. Which kind of answer do you expect? Bjoern From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 13:34:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163AD16A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:34:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.ecilia.net (ns1.ecilia.net [213.186.34.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B0843D2F for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:34:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from francis.pallini@ecilia.fr) Received: from francis (dev.ecilia.fr [82.226.209.37]) by ns1.ecilia.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5RDYXY14911; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:34:33 +0200 Message-Id: <200406271334.i5RDYXY14911@ns1.ecilia.net> From: "Francis PALLINI" To: "'Bjoern Koenig'" Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:34:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <20040627130944.4A80A114152F@tantalus.local> Thread-Index: AcRcQQAG+V0qmnOkT8SqpbJb2fr3gQACNAmA cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FE750, SATA and 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:34:37 -0000 Hello, =20 The RAID SATA technology support in (Free|Open)BSD seems recent (I mean 4.10). The man page of aac says it supports "CERC SATA RAID 2", but is = it the same or at least compatible with "RAID 1 CERC SATA (6 channels)"? The machines are 500km from where I usually work. We will install them = next week-end and, then the very next Monday they will be hosted in a data center. This is why I have to be sure before I can check by myself... Regards, Francis PALLINI - ECILIA -----Message d'origine----- De : Bjoern Koenig [mailto:bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de]=20 Envoy=E9 : dimanche 27 juin 2004 15:10 =C0 : francis.pallini@ecilia.fr Cc : freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Objet : Re: FE750, SATA and 4.10 So, if it is supported by aac(4) then it will work in most cases. Which = kind of answer do you expect? Bjoern From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 14:44:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661DD16A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:44:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from devbiol.bg.biology.uwo.ca (devbiol.bg.biology.uwo.ca [129.100.68.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC0843D1D for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:44:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vzhurov@uwo.ca) Received: from [192.168.8.31] ([24.103.161.247]) (authenticated bits=0)i5REhNLr075407 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:44:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vzhurov@uwo.ca) Message-ID: <40DEDCD2.3020606@uwo.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:42:26 -0400 From: Vladimir Zhurov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno error on FreeBSD-4.10-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:44:32 -0000 Hello, Today's /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg.today got filled with: dmesg.today: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno -1721888480 messages: /kernel: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno -1721888480 System configuration is the following: FreeBSD-4.10-STABLE CPU: Intel P3 MB: Asus P3B-F ATA channels: ATA-0 (MB): IBM DPTA-372050 as PM ATA-1 (MB): HP CDRW 8200+ as PM ATA-2 and -3 (RAID): Promise FastTrack TX2000 with four 80 GB WDC WD800JB in 1+0 configuration I have checked status of array and drives with atacontrol but everything appears normal and I definitely can access all file systems. Does anyone know what is the reason for such error and whether it is critical? Thank you. Vlad. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 15:39:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950B816A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:39:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natsmtp00.rzone.de (natsmtp00.rzone.de [81.169.145.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39EA43D2F for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from tantalus.local (port-212-202-37-98.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.37.98]) by post.webmailer.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5RFdYJm013730; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:39:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: from alpha (alpha.local [192.168.1.2]) by tantalus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6722A114152F; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:39:39 +0000 (GMT) From: "Bjoern Koenig" To: "'Francis PALLINI'" Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:39:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <200406271334.i5RDYXY14911@ns1.ecilia.net> Thread-Index: AcRcQQAG+V0qmnOkT8SqpbJb2fr3gQACNAmAAALTAsA= Message-Id: <20040627153939.6722A114152F@tantalus.local> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FE750, SATA and 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 15:39:42 -0000 Francis PALLINI wrote: > The RAID SATA technology support in (Free|Open)BSD seems recent (I mean > 4.10). There is no need for "SATA technology support". Its an affair between device and controller. FreeBSD-STABLE knows a few controller chips which are used with the SATA interface. Also a lot of manufacturers provide suitable drivers. That should be enough. I already used a RAID1 solution with two SATA hard disks and FreeBSD 4.5(!) without any additional drivers, that means with FreeBSD's built-in drivers without explicit SATA support. It worked fine. > The man page of aac says it supports "CERC SATA RAID 2", but is it > the same or at least compatible with "RAID 1 CERC SATA (6 channels)"? The only controller I discovered on Dell's homepage is called "Adaptec CERC SATA1.5/6ch" or simply "CERC SATA RAID". So I assume that this is the only SATA controller which is offered by Dell. The string "CERC SATA RAID 2" comes only up with FreeBSD, so I guess it's an erratum and they mean the same controller. I think in this case the controller will work with aac(4) properly. Bjoern From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 21:59:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D4916A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:59:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lora.pns.networktel.net (lora.pns.networktel.net [216.83.236.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB0743D1D for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:59:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) Received: from MESE (wifi-ipnet.sysctl.net [216.83.242.102]) i5RH060Q001634 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:00:06 GMT (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) From: "Phillip Salzman" To: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:59:35 -0500 Message-ID: <020c01c45c92$095b3750$6745a8c0@MESE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira Milter 1.0.6; VAE 6.26.0.3; VDF 6.26.0.7 Subject: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:59:35 -0000 Hello, I'm running a Dell 2650 2x3.2Ghz box with HTT disabled (the sysctl variable hasn't been set, so the user procs aren't taking advantage of the logical CPUs) & am seeing some rather strange issues with stdout processes. When I run a tail -f on my maillog (fairly active) I'm getting this intermittently: tail: stdout: Unknown error: 0 Also, vi doesn't seem to work anymore. It's giving me a ``Resource Not Available'' error most of the time I'm using it. This occurs both on remote SSH sessions and console. The boxes load hasn't gone over 1, but it is fairly active running some Vexira AV Milter software on as a mail gateway. I was seeing this same thing on a 5.2.1-R box but passed it off as a 5.2.1 issue. I'm using the same AV software on the 4.10 box as on the 5.2.1, but the 5.2.1 also seemed to have some issues with keeping sockets open in VexiraAV. Has anyone else seen this recently or have any recommendations? -- Phillip Salzman http://www.sysctl.net/phill/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 03:39:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260016A4CE; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 03:39:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk2.snu.ac.kr (auk2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B8E43D45; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 03:39:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stopspam@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (stopspam@users.sourceforge.net) by auk2.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004062812:39:21:412366.23117.2341276592 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:39:21 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:39:30 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: NO (SR:0.42) (by Terrace) Subject: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 03:39:55 -0000 Hi, By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the timer jumps to zero again. 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does not allow this? Just wondering. Regards, Rob. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 12:55:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5ED416A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:55:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kc3.kc.ru (kc3.kc.ru [81.176.229.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6002B43D55 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:55:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mg@kc.ru) Received: from jet.kc.ru (jet.kc.ru [81.176.229.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by kc3.kc.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5SCsU1e020920 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:54:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from mg@kc.ru) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:54:24 +0400 From: Mikhail Godovitcin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1327906383.20040628165424@kc.ru> To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <020c01c45c92$095b3750$6745a8c0@MESE> References: <020c01c45c92$095b3750$6745a8c0@MESE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-104.7 required=7.4 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Report: * -5.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * 1.2 PRIORITY_NO_NAME Message has priority setting, but no X-Mailer X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on kc3.kc.ru X-Authenticated-Sender: user mg from 81.176.229.41 X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter 1.1-beta; AVE 6.26.0.3; VDF 6.26.0.7 (host: kc3.kc.ru) Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:55:35 -0000 Hello, > When I run a tail -f on my maillog (fairly active) I'm getting this > intermittently: > tail: stdout: Unknown error: 0 > Has anyone else seen this recently or have any recommendations? Yes, sometimes... But I can not find conditions when it happens From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 13:19:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7310A16A4CE; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:19:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.macomnet.ru (relay.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CBF43D4C; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:19:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received: from mp2.macomnet.net (3ecxeq5m@mp2.macomnet.net [195.128.64.6]) by relay.macomnet.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5SDJAu517796296; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:19:10 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:19:10 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: Rob In-Reply-To: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <20040628171820.S36116@mp2.macomnet.net> References: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1723781643-1088428750=:36116" cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:19:20 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1723781643-1088428750=:36116 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, 12:39+0900, Rob wrote: > > Hi, > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > timer jumps to zero again. > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! > > Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or > current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does > not allow this? > > Just wondering. $ uptime 5:18ÐÐ up 498 days, 6:13, 5 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.06 $ uname -r 4.4-RELEASE -- Maxim Konovalov --0-1723781643-1088428750=:36116-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 14:03:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD05D16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:03:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021CC43D39 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:03:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (ybkven@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5SE3SdM089872 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:03:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5SE3SwS089871; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:03:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:03:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200406281403.i5SE3SwS089871@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.10-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:03:40 -0000 Rob wrote: > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > timer jumps to zero again. > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! I'd be very embarrassed to have machines with that a high uptime -- It means that they haven't been updated for that a long time and are probably full of security holes. ;-) > Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or > current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does > not allow this? I'm pretty certain I have seen FreeBSD machines with more that 497 days of uptime. The boot time is stored as a struct timeval in sysctl kern.boottime, which is enough for several decades. Which program did you use to display the uptime? It's pro- bably a bug in that program, not in freeBSD. I guess that that program calculates the uptime with 1/100s precision and stores it in a 32bit int. That would explain the 497 days limit: 2^32 / 24 / 60 / 60 / 100 == 497.1. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one?" -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 14:31:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1490316A4CE; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:31:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B46A43D3F; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:31:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5SEVF2n003051; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i5SEVFWo003050; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:31:15 -0400 From: Ken Smith To: Maxim Konovalov Message-ID: <20040628143115.GA2643@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> <20040628171820.S36116@mp2.macomnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20040628171820.S36116@mp2.macomnet.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Rob cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:31:17 -0000 On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 05:19:10PM +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, 12:39+0900, Rob wrote: > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > > timer jumps to zero again. > > > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! > > > > Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or > > current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does > > not allow this? > > > > Just wondering. > > $ uptime > 5:18ÐÐ up 498 days, 6:13, 5 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.06 > $ uname -r > 4.4-RELEASE % uptime 7:25AM up 932 days, 3:48, 1 user, load averages: 0.47, 0.30, 0.23 % uname -r 4.4-STABLE % That said, I'd love to know what limit it was you (original poster) saw. Maybe something has crept in between 4.4 and now? -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 14:50:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087316A4CE; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:50:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [198.22.63.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECA243D31; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:50:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1])i5SEoSuF092183; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:50:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost)i5SEoSco092182; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:50:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:50:27 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: Rob Message-ID: <20040628145027.GA92086@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Score: (0) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:50:30 -0000 Hi, This tickles something in the back of my memory. You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection, Netcraft-style, are you? IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days. But actual system uptime is unaffected. ==ml On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:39:30PM +0900, Rob wrote: > > Hi, > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > timer jumps to zero again. > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! > > Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or > current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does > not allow this? > > Just wondering. > > Regards, > Rob. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org "I'm sorry, but 'Social Darwinism' is no excuse for killing all of your co-workers." -- Ivan Brunetti http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 15:05:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1E616A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:05:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mandarin.fruitsalad.org (pc117.net160.koping.net [81.16.160.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92C843D2F for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:05:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@fruitsalad.org) Received: from [192.168.15.6] (helo=[192.168.15.6]) by mandarin.fruitsalad.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Bexgu-0008S3-23 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:05:04 +0200 From: Matt Douhan Organization: fruitsalad.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:04:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> <20040628171820.S36116@mp2.macomnet.net> In-Reply-To: <20040628171820.S36116@mp2.macomnet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406281704.58520.matt@fruitsalad.org> Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:05:05 -0000 On Monday 28 June 2004 15.19, Maxim Konovalov wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, 12:39+0900, Rob wrote: > > Hi, > > > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > > timer jumps to zero again. > > > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! > > 5:04pm mdouhan @ [dragonfruit] ~ > ssh hallon uptime 5:04PM up 739 days, 18:34, 0 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 5:04pm mdouhan @ [dragonfruit] ~ > ssh hallon uname -a FreeBSD hallon.internal.hasta.se 4.6-RC2 FreeBSD 4.6-RC2 #0: Sat May 18 05:10:05 GMT 2002 root@storm.FreeBSD.org.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 5:04pm mdouhan @ [dragonfruit] ~ > rgds Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 15:06:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFB616A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:06:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mandarin.fruitsalad.org (pc117.net160.koping.net [81.16.160.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2739D43D1D for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:06:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@fruitsalad.org) Received: from [192.168.15.6] (helo=[192.168.15.6]) by mandarin.fruitsalad.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Bexi4-0008Sz-Er for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:06:16 +0200 From: Matt Douhan Organization: fruitsalad.org To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:06:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406281403.i5SE3SwS089871@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200406281403.i5SE3SwS089871@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:06:17 -0000 On Monday 28 June 2004 16.03, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Rob wrote: > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > > timer jumps to zero again. > > > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! > > I'd be very embarrassed to have machines with that a high > uptime -- It means that they haven't been updated for that > a long time and are probably full of security holes. ;-) > why ? they may not be public machines at all and be isolated to an environment where security is not the primary concern rgds Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 15:40:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D06C16A4CE; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk2.snu.ac.kr (auk2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294A943D39; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:40:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stopspam@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (stopspam@users.sourceforge.net) by auk2.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004062900:40:53:083200.23117.2919119792 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:40:53 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <40E03C05.4070001@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:40:53 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> <20040628145027.GA92086@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> In-Reply-To: <20040628145027.GA92086@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: NO (SR:3.37) (by Terrace) Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:40:59 -0000 Michael W. Lucas wrote: > Hi, > > This tickles something in the back of my memory. > > You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection, > Netcraft-style, are you? > > IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days. But actual system uptime is > unaffected. Yes, I read it first time on a Netcraft's webpage, then googled and found other reports as well. So this 497 limitation is only for Netscaft's way of measuring up-time? Rob. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 16:01:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8747616A4CE; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:01:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [198.22.63.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4188943D3F; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:01:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1])i5SG1VuF092871; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:01:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost)i5SG1UAH092870; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:01:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:01:30 -0400 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: Rob Message-ID: <20040628160130.GA92831@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <40DF92F2.2030407@users.sourceforge.net> <20040628145027.GA92086@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <40E03C05.4070001@users.sourceforge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40E03C05.4070001@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Score: (0) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:01:34 -0000 On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 12:40:53AM +0900, Rob wrote: > Michael W. Lucas wrote: > >Hi, > > > >This tickles something in the back of my memory. > > > >You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection, > >Netcraft-style, are you? > > > >IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days. But actual system uptime is > >unaffected. > > Yes, I read it first time on a Netcraft's webpage, then googled and found > other reports as well. So this 497 limitation is only for Netscaft's way > of measuring up-time? > > Rob. Yep. It's a counter that rolls over in the TCP stack. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org "I'm sorry, but 'Social Darwinism' is no excuse for killing all of your co-workers." -- Ivan Brunetti http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 16:44:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA6A16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:44:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02ED943D48 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (upcryt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5SGiMvV097810 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:44:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5SGiM0h097809; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:44:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:44:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.10-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:44:24 -0000 Matt Douhan wrote: > On Monday 28 June 2004 16.03, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Rob wrote: > > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > > > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > > > timer jumps to zero again. > > > > > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! > > > > I'd be very embarrassed to have machines with that a high > > uptime -- It means that they haven't been updated for that > > a long time and are probably full of security holes. ;-) > > why ? > > they may not be public machines at all and be isolated to an environment where > security is not the primary concern You did notice the smiley, didn't you? But seriously, I think that the widespread uptime fetishism is somewhat dangerous. People often try hard to avoid rebooting machines, just in order to "save their precious uptime", even if there are good reasons to reboot. A machine with 1.5 years of uptime -- be it in an isolated environment or not -- has accumulated the bugs of 1.5 years that have been fixed in the latest version of the OS, so to speak. In fact there is software which I wouldn't want to run even if it were outdated for only a few days. Mysql is one such example. Every time I looked at the huge list of bugs that have been fixed in the latest version, I almost got a heart attack. (Changing to PostgreSQL was very healthy.) Those are just my opinions, of course, and YMMV. I'm very sorry, it got quite off-topic by now. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." -- Robert Firth From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 16:46:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B3A16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:46:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from finetoon.tempdomainname.com (finetoon.tempdomainname.com [192.220.112.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED74D43D3F for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:46:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roger@asphyxia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (97.16.252.64.snet.net [64.252.16.97]) (authenticated bits=0)i5SGk6bb089777 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:46:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <40E04AFD.1040004@asphyxia.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:44:45 -0400 From: Roger Raymond User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040621 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: apache2ssl_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf not starting apache2 on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:46:07 -0000 Hello, I have the latest apache2 port installed and I can start the server by manually issuing an 'apachectl startssl' command. I have added the apache2ssl_enable="YES" to my /etc/rc.conf file, yet on a server reboot the apache server does not start. Is there something I could be missing? the httpd-error.log does not report any errors. Is there another log file I could check? OS is FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD Thanks, Roger From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 17:04:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E365316A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:04:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from finetoon.tempdomainname.com (finetoon.tempdomainname.com [192.220.112.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA8043D46 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roger.raymond@asphyxia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (97.16.252.64.snet.net [64.252.16.97]) (authenticated bits=0)i5SH4KEb096518; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:04:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <40E04F43.9010808@asphyxia.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:02:59 -0400 From: Roger Raymond User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040621 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <40E04AFD.1040004@asphyxia.com> <002701c45d30$b8751230$0102a8c0@bogomip> In-Reply-To: <002701c45d30$b8751230$0102a8c0@bogomip> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: apache2ssl_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf not starting apache2 on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:04:22 -0000 Yep - that would be the solution :) --rr Derkjan de Haan wrote: > If I understood correctly one has to start both, because SSL support is > actually some sort of a plugin to the main web server. > > apache2_enable="YES" > apache2ssl_enable="YES" > > If you only want the SSL variety then you can firewall port 80, or fiddle > with httpd.conf so that apache doesn't bind to the network interface. > > > regards, > > Derkjan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Raymond" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:44 PM > Subject: apache2ssl_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf not starting apache2 on > boot > > > >>Hello, >> >>I have the latest apache2 port installed and I can start the server by >>manually issuing an 'apachectl startssl' command. I have added the >>apache2ssl_enable="YES" to my /etc/rc.conf file, yet on a server reboot >>the apache server does not start. >> >>Is there something I could be missing? the httpd-error.log does not >>report any errors. Is there another log file I could check? >> >>OS is FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD >> >>Thanks, >>Roger >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 17:06:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264F716A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:06:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EDC43D2F; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:06:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from z3l3zt@hackunite.net) Received: from mail.hackunite.net ([213.112.193.12] [213.112.193.12]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with SMTP <20040628170600.DLEI3131.mxfep01.bredband.com@mail.hackunite.net>; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:06:00 +0200 Received: from 213.112.193.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z3l3zt@hackunite.net) by mail.hackunite.net with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4550.213.112.193.44.1088442413.squirrel@mail.hackunite.net> In-Reply-To: <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:06:53 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jesper Wallin" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: SquirrelMail 1.4.2 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: z3l3zt@hackunite.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:06:03 -0000 Heya.. Heh, sure, I do agree that alot of people do almost everything to avoid a reboot.. but yet, MySQL (or any other daemon) is a quite bad example since it's not a part of the base system. You can update ALL kind of daemons without a reboot.. But sure, it's better to be safe than sorry and high uptime is mostly a lack of security but yet a proof of stability. :) Regards, Jesper Wallin > Matt Douhan wrote: > > On Monday 28 June 2004 16.03, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Rob wrote: > > > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > > > > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > > > > timer jumps to zero again. > > > > > > > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! > > > > > > I'd be very embarrassed to have machines with that a high > > > uptime -- It means that they haven't been updated for that > > > a long time and are probably full of security holes. ;-) > > > > why ? > > > > they may not be public machines at all and be isolated to an environment where > > security is not the primary concern > > You did notice the smiley, didn't you? > > But seriously, I think that the widespread uptime fetishism > is somewhat dangerous. People often try hard to avoid > rebooting machines, just in order to "save their precious > uptime", even if there are good reasons to reboot. > > A machine with 1.5 years of uptime -- be it in an isolated > environment or not -- has accumulated the bugs of 1.5 years > that have been fixed in the latest version of the OS, so to > speak. > > In fact there is software which I wouldn't want to run even > if it were outdated for only a few days. Mysql is one such > example. Every time I looked at the huge list of bugs that > have been fixed in the latest version, I almost got a heart > attack. (Changing to PostgreSQL was very healthy.) > > Those are just my opinions, of course, and YMMV. > > I'm very sorry, it got quite off-topic by now. > > Best regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München > Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author > and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > > "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, > lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination > of their C programs." > -- Robert Firth > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 17:07:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188D516A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:07:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12A7843D49 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:07:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 27415 invoked by uid 65534); 28 Jun 2004 17:07:19 -0000 Received: from pD9FFDB25.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO kiste.my.domain) (217.255.219.37) by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 28 Jun 2004 19:07:19 +0200 X-Authenticated: #443188 From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:07:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_HBF4ADtMUw9RLUI"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406281907.19200.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> cc: Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:07:24 -0000 --Boundary-02=_HBF4ADtMUw9RLUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 28 June 2004 18:44, Oliver Fromme wrote: > A machine with 1.5 years of uptime -- be it in an isolated > environment or not -- has accumulated the bugs of 1.5 years > that have been fixed in the latest version of the OS, so to > speak. But it has not accumulated the 1.5 years worth of new bugs that have been=20 introduced since then. :) =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --Boundary-02=_HBF4ADtMUw9RLUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBA4FBHXhc68WspdLARAkpBAJ9reS1Fk22l2iqqAVFB6828QTtDgQCgnIVx XeWXOqtHpX8VdsiDT6JIyoM= =lN6K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_HBF4ADtMUw9RLUI-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 17:10:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4D316A4CF for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:10:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zam151.fz-juelich.de (zam151.fz-juelich.de [134.94.100.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3F343D54 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from c.lackas@kfa-juelich.de) Received: by zam151.fz-juelich.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 7F9E472E95; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zel726.zel.kfa-juelich.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zam151.fz-juelich.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20CF72DE2 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:10:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zel726.zel.kfa-juelich.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5SHAINV000487 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:10:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from c.lackas@kfa-juelich.de) Received: (from lackas@localhost)i5SHAI6n000485 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:10:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from c.lackas@kfa-juelich.de) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:10:18 +0200 From: Christian Lackas To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040628171018.GB97710@zel726.zel.kfa-juelich.de> References: <40E04AFD.1040004@asphyxia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <40E04AFD.1040004@asphyxia.com> X-Accept-Language: de en Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich X-Url: X-PGP-Fingerprint: E78C 1105 710D D01A 8D1C 5B86 BDF7 6FD4 AC64 9ED9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on zam151.fz-juelich.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-104.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=2.63 Subject: Re: apache2ssl_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf not starting apache2 on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:10:22 -0000 * Roger Raymond [040628 18:58]: Hello Roger, > I have the latest apache2 port installed and I can start the server by > manually issuing an 'apachectl startssl' command. I have added the > apache2ssl_enable="YES" to my /etc/rc.conf file, yet on a server reboot > the apache server does not start. did you (also) add a apache2_enable="YES" line (the SSL thing is an *additional* option)? Without this variable set the start script will not do anything. Gruss Christian -- Besser sechs Stunden Schule als überhaupt kein Schlaf. http://www.lackas.net/ Perl Delphi Linux MP3 Searchengines Domainchecker From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 21:11:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9528516A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:11:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [65.205.34.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E89943D45 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:11:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from [192.168.7.103] (host-103.int.kcilink.com [192.168.7.103]) by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725FD217B5 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <20040623232823.V85983@enterprise.another.com.au> References: <20040623232823.V85983@enterprise.another.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7ED7DC98-C947-11D8-8DED-000A9578CFCC@khera.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Vivek Khera Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:09:51 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: Netmask issue in ucd-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:11:36 -0000 On Jun 23, 2004, at 9:30 AM, Richard Beyer wrote: > Don't know who to report this to, the netmask in /etc/snmpd.conf for > ucd-snmp doesn't work as expected. > > a.b.c.d/27 reported an error, had to resort to what was the value of "d" and what was the exact error message? and what version of snmpd? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 22:11:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F7016A4F1 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A59243D3F for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8BBA71363E; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:10:59 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:10:59 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Phillip Salzman Message-ID: <20040628221059.GA3943@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <020c01c45c92$095b3750$6745a8c0@MESE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <020c01c45c92$095b3750$6745a8c0@MESE> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:11:01 -0000 On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 04:59:35PM -0500, Phillip Salzman wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running a Dell 2650 2x3.2Ghz box with HTT disabled (the sysctl variable > hasn't been set, so the user procs aren't taking advantage of the logical > CPUs) & am seeing some rather strange issues with stdout processes. > > When I run a tail -f on my maillog (fairly active) I'm getting this > intermittently: > > tail: stdout: Unknown error: 0 > > Also, vi doesn't seem to work anymore. It's giving me a ``Resource Not > Available'' error most of the time I'm using it. This problem has been around for at least 6 months, maybe longer. Unfortunately, it isn't readily reproducible, and thus difficult to report and fix. Not seeing it on our 4.10 boxes at the moment. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. I want to achieve it through not dying" - Woody Allen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 22:37:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9137016A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:37:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts25.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC91843D1F for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca) Received: from number6.magda.ca ([67.71.53.111]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20040628223704.QTEP28143.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@number6.magda.ca>; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:37:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.132] (gandalf.magda.ca [192.168.1.132]) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5SMb4UQ010525; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:37:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca) In-Reply-To: <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> References: <200406281403.i5SE3SwS089871@lurza.secnetix.de> <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Magda Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:37:06 -0400 To: Matt Douhan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Magda List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:37:06 -0000 On Jun 28, 2004, at 11:06, Matt Douhan wrote: > why ? > > they may not be public machines at all and be isolated to an > environment where > security is not the primary concern Have you not seen the SSH exploit in "The Matrix Reload"?!?! :> How do you know some evil-doer wouldn't use an exploit from an internal system? Heck, Slammer nailed a couple of networks (e.g., ATM) that were supposedly secure in protected networks. No telling how a worm may jump fire/airwalls. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 00:24:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C416016A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:24:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAE743D2F for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:24:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8E4D572DF2; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EF172DB5; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:24:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Vladimir Zhurov In-Reply-To: <40DEDCD2.3020606@uwo.ca> Message-ID: <20040628172309.D43333@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <40DEDCD2.3020606@uwo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno error on FreeBSD-4.10-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:24:39 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Vladimir Zhurov wrote: > Hello, > > Today's /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg.today got filled with: > > dmesg.today: > dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno -1721888480 > > messages: > /kernel: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno -1721888480 I've seen this if the array or partition table is corrupted. The check is at the front of dscheck() in src/sys/kern/subr_diskslice.c. You might make sure your raid array is functioning normally and the fdisk table hasn't been spammed. > Does anyone know what is the reason for such error and whether it is > critical? It shouldn't happen -- you might go exploring with fdisk(8). -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 07:02:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650CB16A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:02:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mandarin.fruitsalad.org (pc117.net160.koping.net [81.16.160.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D193443D2F for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:02:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@fruitsalad.org) Received: from [192.168.15.6] (helo=[192.168.15.6]) by mandarin.fruitsalad.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1BfCds-000BvU-Af; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:02:56 +0200 From: Matt Douhan Organization: fruitsalad.org To: David Magda Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:02:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406281403.i5SE3SwS089871@lurza.secnetix.de> <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406290902.47494.matt@fruitsalad.org> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:02:58 -0000 On Tuesday 29 June 2004 00.37, David Magda wrote: > On Jun 28, 2004, at 11:06, Matt Douhan wrote: > > why ? > > > > they may not be public machines at all and be isolated to an > > environment where > > security is not the primary concern > > Have you not seen the SSH exploit in "The Matrix Reload"?!?! :> How do > you know some evil-doer wouldn't use an exploit from an internal > system? Heck, Slammer nailed a couple of networks (e.g., ATM) that were > supposedly secure in protected networks. No telling how a worm may jump > fire/airwalls. fairly easily, the systems in question is not connected to any firewalls nor does it have any outside connectivity, no modems, no serial cables no nothing, it is simply connected to a mainline pruction line and runs software that controls that system, single machine with no network at all, ssh is even disabled. The point being that sometimes uptime is more important than security in some instances. rgds Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 07:09:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F10916A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:09:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from one.zutom.sk (one.zutom.sk [62.176.168.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F61043D2D for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:09:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nemcovsky@wavo.sk) Received: from ivan ([217.118.110.121]) (authenticated bits=0) by one.zutom.sk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5T79cxB073817 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:09:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nemcovsky@wavo.sk) Message-ID: <001f01c45da8$07941290$ad01a8c0@wavo.sk> From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Nem=E8ovsk=FD?= To: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:09:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Scanned-By: smtp.zutom.sk - MIMEDefang 2.16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Stable with SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:09:42 -0000 hi, i'd like to install freebsd 4.10 on my computer and use it like a = web and mail server. my problem is that i need a promise fastrak sata = 378 or compatible driver to be able to install freebsd on my sata drive. = is there such a driver? i'm new to freebsd and unix. can anybody explain = me how i can solve this problem. thanks. xwatch From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 08:04:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E4916A4CF for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:04:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natsmtp00.rzone.de (natsmtp00.rzone.de [81.169.145.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EC343D4C for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:04:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from tantalus.local (port-212-202-37-98.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.37.98]) by post.webmailer.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5T84bwb022807; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:04:37 +0200 (MEST) Received: from alpha (alpha.local [192.168.1.2]) by tantalus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC30E1141905; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:04:39 +0000 (GMT) From: "Bjoern Koenig" To: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:04:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcRdr74ZEwQ75dZYSXKKsRoxqc371A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-Id: <20040629080439.BC30E1141905@tantalus.local> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stable with SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:04:39 -0000 Ivan wrote: > hi, i'd like to install freebsd 4.10 on my computer and use it like a web > and mail server. my problem is that i need a promise fastrak sata 378 or > compatible driver to be able to install freebsd on my sata drive. is there > such a driver? i'm new to freebsd and unix. can anybody explain me how i > can solve this problem. thanks. 378 isn't helpful since Promise hides its chip model numbers well. FreeBSD 4.10 supports Promise Fasttrak-33, -66, -100, -100 TX2/TX4, -133 TX2/TX2000 [1]. So I think your controller is also supported; at least if you use single disks. Did you tried it already? Bjoern [1] http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/hardware-i386.html#AEN34 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 08:38:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5736D16A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:38:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (natnoddy.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3F43D54 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:38:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from tantalus.local (port-212-202-37-98.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.37.98]) by post.webmailer.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5T8c5YS007157; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:38:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: from alpha (alpha.local [192.168.1.2]) by tantalus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803B91141905; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:38:08 +0000 (GMT) From: "Bjoern Koenig" To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Ivan_Nemcovsk=FD'?=" Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:38:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcRdseXYf6+GuU9oTnKaQ65j2lm5sgAAUcxA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <008e01c45db1$25fe8bd0$ad01a8c0@wavo.sk> Message-Id: <20040629083808.803B91141905@tantalus.local> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Stable with SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:38:07 -0000 Ivan wrote: > i tried to install freebsd from a bootable cd. but the installer > does not find my sata drive. the promise fastrak driver is not > listed in the active on inactive drivers list. what can i do? So I guess 378 is a newer ATA controller chip. It is not supported (yet?) by FreeBSD 4.10. (Maybe you like to bother Promise to provide FreeBSD drivers for end customers ;-) You will have more luck with FreeBSD 5.2.1. I'm sorry about my ignorance concerning Promise products and drivers, but I never used their controllers. Bjoern From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 11:40:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DED16A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:40:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from timon.swistgroup.com (timon.swistgroup.com [196.44.35.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E6F43D45 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:40:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conrad.burger@swistgroup.com) Received: from mailnull by timon.swistgroup.com with local (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BfGyB-0000Ag-Vv for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:40:11 +0200 Received: from steinmail.swistgroup.com ([172.16.1.3])by timon.swistgroup.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD)id 1BfGyB-0000AU-UKfor freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:40:11 +0200 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:40:11 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: atacontrol Raid, cannot re-add member to array thread-index: AcRdzdY3iAx8t1LiRA21ATJLwAVaFA== From: "Conrad Burger" To: X-Scan-Signature: 0719cae66e8f984e1fd3b531a36ea199 X-Disclaimer: SWIST Subject: atacontrol Raid, cannot re-add member to array X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:40:41 -0000 ************************************************************ Click here to view our e-mail legal notice: http://www.swistgroup.com/email.htm or call: +27 21 888 7920 ************************************************************ Hi all, I'm investigating atacontrol raid as an alternative to vinum. So far it has worked great. That's until I unplugged one of the array members. The system boots up fine from the second disk,=20 but the problem ... I can't get atacontrol to rebuild the mirror onto = the disk that was removed.=20 I have tried every command on the atacontrol man page, but to no avail. OS : FreeBSD 4.10=20 System : P3 IDE controller : Intel ICH2 ATA100 controller=20 and 2 x 40 GB disks. On FreeBSD 5 atacontrol has an additional command "addspare" that I = have used with success to=20 add a disk to a RAID1 array and rebuild it. Now that you know some of the details, here are the questions 1.. How "safe" is the atacontrol raid feature?=20 2.. How do I rebuild an atacontrol RAID1 array on FreeBSD 4.10? Any help would be appreciated, I have been at it the whole day! Regards=20 Conrad Burger=20 Support Engineer=20 TEBiVO Business Continuity=20 Cell: +27 82 442 8760=20 conrad[at]tebivo[dot]com=20 Tel: +27 21 888 7956 Fax: +27 21 888 7979=20 =20 Click here to view our e-mail legal notice:=20 http://www.tebivo.com/email.htm or call: +27 21 888 7920=20 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 28 14:11:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9168F16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:11:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from be1.mail.zoznam.sk (be.zoznam.sk [62.65.179.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E4643D2F for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:11:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from newbie.freebsd@zoznam.sk) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 Received: from [81.31.8.74] (account newbie.freebsd@zoznam.sk HELO xwatch) by be1.mail.zoznam.sk (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b6) with ESMTP id 364603 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:11:53 +0200 Message-ID: <010501c45d1a$010fc4c0$0304010a@xwatch> From: "FreeBSD Newbie" To: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:12:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:05:55 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FreeBSD 4.10 with SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:11:57 -0000 I'd like to install freebsd 4.10 on my computer and use it as a web and = mail server. I need a stable and reliable server so i chose 4.10 and not = the 5.2.1release. Is there a way to install the 4.10 release on a = computer with SATA drive? I got a MSI K7N2 board and the needed driver = is Promise Fastrak SATA 378. I'm new to FreBSD and I got only basic = knowledge of unix. If there is a usable driver, how can i use it to = either make a bootable instalation cd-rom or use a floppy during = instalation to achieve that my SATA drive will be recognized by freebsd = and I'll be able to install it on that drive? Please help. Thanks. xwatch From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 16:55:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6083E16A4DA for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jor-l.pns.networktel.net (jor-l.pns.networktel.net [216.83.236.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BD843D49 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:55:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) Received: from MESE (wifi-ipnet.sysctl.net [216.83.242.102]) i5TBulK7009183; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:56:48 GMT (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) From: "Phillip Salzman" To: "'Jonathan Chen'" Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:55:23 -0500 Message-ID: <00d801c45df9$df664d40$6745a8c0@MESE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <20040628221059.GA3943@grimoire.chen.org.nz> Importance: Normal X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira Milter 1.0.6; VAE 6.26.0.3; VDF 6.26.0.8 cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:55:30 -0000 I've been able to reproduce it nearly every time I try to vi -- on machines with HTT completely enabled also now too. Does anyone know of any tests that I could conduct which might help point a finger at the culprit? I'm pretty much at a loss of idea's... Thanks, Phillip Salzman > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chen > Sent: June 28, 2004 5:11 PM > To: Phillip Salzman > Cc: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 04:59:35PM -0500, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm running a Dell 2650 2x3.2Ghz box with HTT disabled (the sysctl > variable > > hasn't been set, so the user procs aren't taking advantage of the > logical > > CPUs) & am seeing some rather strange issues with stdout processes. > > > > When I run a tail -f on my maillog (fairly active) I'm getting this > > intermittently: > > > > tail: stdout: Unknown error: 0 > > > > Also, vi doesn't seem to work anymore. It's giving me a ``Resource Not > > Available'' error most of the time I'm using it. > > This problem has been around for at least 6 months, maybe longer. > Unfortunately, it isn't readily reproducible, and thus difficult to > report and fix. Not seeing it on our 4.10 boxes at the moment. > > Cheers. > -- > Jonathan Chen > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > "I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. > I want to achieve it through not dying" - Woody Allen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 01:25:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FC416A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:25:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AB343D2F for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C173472DF4; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAE572DF2; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Phillip Salzman In-Reply-To: <00d801c45df9$df664d40$6745a8c0@MESE> Message-ID: <20040629182415.K54069@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <00d801c45df9$df664d40$6745a8c0@MESE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:25:44 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Phillip Salzman wrote: > I've been able to reproduce it nearly every time I try to vi -- on machines > with HTT completely enabled also now too. > > Does anyone know of any tests that I could conduct which might help point a > finger at the culprit? I'm pretty much at a loss of idea's... Its in the tty code somewhere. It sometimes appears to me as vi dying in xterm. On the plus side, it hasn't done it to me on -stable in a long time, and never on -current :) > > Thanks, > > Phillip Salzman > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chen > > Sent: June 28, 2004 5:11 PM > > To: Phillip Salzman > > Cc: stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R > > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 04:59:35PM -0500, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm running a Dell 2650 2x3.2Ghz box with HTT disabled (the sysctl > > variable > > > hasn't been set, so the user procs aren't taking advantage of the > > logical > > > CPUs) & am seeing some rather strange issues with stdout processes. > > > > > > When I run a tail -f on my maillog (fairly active) I'm getting this > > > intermittently: > > > > > > tail: stdout: Unknown error: 0 > > > > > > Also, vi doesn't seem to work anymore. It's giving me a ``Resource Not > > > Available'' error most of the time I'm using it. > > > > This problem has been around for at least 6 months, maybe longer. > > Unfortunately, it isn't readily reproducible, and thus difficult to > > report and fix. Not seeing it on our 4.10 boxes at the moment. > > > > Cheers. > > -- > > Jonathan Chen > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. > > I want to achieve it through not dying" - Woody Allen > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 02:11:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6956E16A4CE; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6F643D4C; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5U2AkYZ046142; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:40:46 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:40:46 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <00d801c45df9$df664d40$6745a8c0@MESE> <20040629182415.K54069@carver.gumbysoft.com> In-Reply-To: <20040629182415.K54069@carver.gumbysoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200406301140.46375.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -4.1 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Phillip Salzman Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:11:29 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:54, Doug White wrote: > Its in the tty code somewhere. It sometimes appears to me as vi dying in > xterm. > > On the plus side, it hasn't done it to me on -stable in a long time, and > never on -current :) I've seen it happen on -current :( Pretty rare though. =2D --=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C > >=20 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA4iEm5ZPcIHs/zowRAnP1AJ4vOPDW6SY5RIVGE7jABqvzKo94lQCgnkTw ZJtMBgVWlR8J6t5aYdPnk0o=3D =3DXubg =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 02:11:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6956E16A4CE; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6F643D4C; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5U2AkYZ046142; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:40:46 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:40:46 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <00d801c45df9$df664d40$6745a8c0@MESE> <20040629182415.K54069@carver.gumbysoft.com> In-Reply-To: <20040629182415.K54069@carver.gumbysoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200406301140.46375.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -4.1 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Phillip Salzman Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:11:29 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:54, Doug White wrote: > Its in the tty code somewhere. It sometimes appears to me as vi dying in > xterm. > > On the plus side, it hasn't done it to me on -stable in a long time, and > never on -current :) I've seen it happen on -current :( Pretty rare though. =2D --=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C > >=20 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA4iEm5ZPcIHs/zowRAnP1AJ4vOPDW6SY5RIVGE7jABqvzKo94lQCgnkTw ZJtMBgVWlR8J6t5aYdPnk0o=3D =3DXubg =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 07:45:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E132716A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 07:45:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pinus.cc.fer.hr (pinus.cc.fer.hr [161.53.73.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0020043D31 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 07:45:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from fer.hr (lara.cc.fer.hr [161.53.72.113]) by pinus.cc.fer.hr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i5U7mksM002456 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:48:47 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <40E26F4A.80004@fer.hr> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:44:10 +0200 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Apache2 threaded MPM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 07:45:21 -0000 Can apache2 be run on FreeBSD 4.x using a threaded MPM (e.g. "mpm_worker")? Is anybody using this in production? Thanks! -- Every sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology - Arthur C Anticlarke From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 09:30:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B6116A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:30:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obh.snafu.de (obh.snafu.de [213.73.92.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF9943D48 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:30:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ob@gruft.de) Received: from ob by obh.snafu.de with local (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BfbPy-000ON0-4r for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:30:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:30:14 +0200 From: Oliver Brandmueller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040630093013.GA68030@e-Gitt.NET> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00d801c45df9$df664d40$6745a8c0@MESE> <20040629182415.K54069@carver.gumbysoft.com> <200406301140.46375.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406301140.46375.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Oliver Brandmueller Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:30:29 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:40:46AM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:54, Doug White wrote: > > On the plus side, it hasn't done it to me on -stable in a long time, and > > never on -current :) >=20 > I've seen it happen on -current :( > Pretty rare though. Confirmed. I cannot consistently reproduce it, but it seems to happen under load. The machine does very I/O bound things and uses a lot of pipes, not so much CPU load, when it happens. - Oliver --=20 | Oliver Brandmueller | Offenbacher Str. 1 | Germany D-14197 Berlin | | Fon +49-172-3130856 | Fax +49-172-3145027 | WWW: http://the.addict.de/ | | Ich bin das Internet. Sowahr ich Gott helfe. | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung aller enthaltenen Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA4ogliqtMdzjafykRAplkAJ9Bi8o4kzCm+PHW9zW4qyWfeHei/ACfSapI EqSN7LZcdcr47+Zmb/fdxyk= =CjNe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 10:29:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF89916A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:29:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from files.jawa.at (jawa.at [213.229.17.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B6443D46 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:29:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mranner@inode.at) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9428DFDF4 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:28:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from files.jawa.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (files.jawa.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 75126-07 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:28:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by files.jawa.at (Postfix, from userid 60) id C2D40FDF2; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:28:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from walgrind.jawa.at (walgrind.jawa.at [192.168.200.56]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D4BFDE2 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:28:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Ranner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:28:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <00d801c45df9$df664d40$6745a8c0@MESE> <200406301140.46375.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20040630093013.GA68030@e-Gitt.NET> In-Reply-To: <20040630093013.GA68030@e-Gitt.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406301228.43775.mranner@inode.at> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on files.jawa.at X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jawa.at Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:29:07 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2004 11:30 schrieb Oliver Brandmueller: > Hi. > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:40:46AM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:54, Doug White wrote: > > > On the plus side, it hasn't done it to me on -stable in a long time, > > > and never on -current :) > > > > I've seen it happen on -current :( > > Pretty rare though. > > Confirmed. I cannot consistently reproduce it, but it seems to happen > under load. The machine does very I/O bound things and uses a lot of > pipes, not so much CPU load, when it happens. > > - Oliver I am seeing this problem in several 4.x releases, not only the last 6 months, and also in current. This servers running file services (NFS, Samba) with postfix, cyrus and amavisd plus spamassassin on a single host. So this might happen under high I/O. Regards -- /\/\ichael Ranner mranner@inode.at - mranner@jawa.at - mranner@bugat.at ----------------------------------------------------- BSD Usergroup Austria - http://www.bugat.at/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GIT/CS/AT dx(-) s+:(++:) a- C++ UBLVS++++$ P++>+++$ L-(+)$ E--- W+++$ N+(++) o-- K- w--()$ O-(--) M@ V-(--) PS+>++ PE(-) Y+ PGP(-) t+ 5+ X+++(++++) R* tv++ b+(++) DI++ D-(--) G- e h--(*) r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 10:34:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C44716A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:34:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obh.snafu.de (obh.snafu.de [213.73.92.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7964243D31 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:34:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ob@gruft.de) Received: from ob by obh.snafu.de with local (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BfcPV-0000JH-Hb for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:33:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:33:49 +0200 From: Oliver Brandmueller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040630103349.GB99808@e-Gitt.NET> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00d801c45df9$df664d40$6745a8c0@MESE> <200406301140.46375.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20040630093013.GA68030@e-Gitt.NET> <200406301228.43775.mranner@inode.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406301228.43775.mranner@inode.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Oliver Brandmueller Subject: Re: ``top'' and other process issues on 4.10-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:34:19 -0000 Hi. On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 12:28:43PM +0200, Michael Ranner wrote: > amavisd plus spamassassin Exactly the thing that's running here on the machine, where I see this. amavis uses lots of pipes and lots of stdin/out/err redirection. greetings, Oliver -- | Oliver Brandmueller | Offenbacher Str. 1 | Germany D-14197 Berlin | | Fon +49-172-3130856 | Fax +49-172-3145027 | WWW: http://the.addict.de/ | | Ich bin das Internet. Sowahr ich Gott helfe. | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung aller enthaltenen Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 16:41:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AB816A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:41:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chatbox-smtp-out4.apple.com (chatbox-smtp-out4.apple.com [17.254.6.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0CE43D2D for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:41:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@clove.org) Received: from [17.210.61.31] (wwdc-61-31.apple.com [17.210.61.31]) i5UGdllr017701 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:39:57 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <40E26F4A.80004@fer.hr> References: <40E26F4A.80004@fer.hr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Aaron Bannert Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:38:57 -0700 To: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: Re: Apache2 threaded MPM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:41:28 -0000 On Jun 30, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > Can apache2 be run on FreeBSD 4.x using a threaded MPM (e.g. > "mpm_worker")? Is anybody using this in production? There are some serious problems with FreeBSD 4.x's thread support that cause Apache's worker MPM to fail in strange and horrible ways. It is possible to force Apache to build the worker MPM under FreeBSD 4.x, but you have to hack around the safeguards we put in that disallow this. Even if you manage to get it to work I'd completely avoid it for production machines. I've heard good reports from people running worker under 5.x though. For more details about the problems, take a look at the STATUS file in the apache-2.x tarball or in CVS. -aaron (aka aaron@apache.org) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 17:52:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFC816A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:52:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (cs.earlham.edu [159.28.230.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF1743D41 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:52:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (localhost.cs.earlham.edu [127.0.0.1]) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5UHqfWb055672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:52:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: (from skylar@localhost) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id i5UHqffx055671 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:52:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.cs.earlham.edu: skylar set sender to skylar@quark.cs.earlham.edu using -f Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:52:41 -0500 From: Skylar Thompson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040630175241.GC54215@quark.cs.earlham.edu> References: <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Sender: "Skylar Thompson" X-Accept-Primary-Language: en X-Accept-Secondary-Language: es SMTP-Mailing-Host: quark.cs.earlham.edu X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE X-Uptime: 12:41PM up 12 days, 9:26, 14 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.16, 0.15 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.2 (2003 Jun 1, compiled May 19 2004 13:14:50) X-Earlham-CS-Dept-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Earlham-CS-Dept-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: skylar@cs.earlham.edu Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Skylar Thompson List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:52:48 -0000 --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 06:44:22PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > You did notice the smiley, didn't you? >=20 > But seriously, I think that the widespread uptime fetishism > is somewhat dangerous. People often try hard to avoid > rebooting machines, just in order to "save their precious > uptime", even if there are good reasons to reboot. >=20 > A machine with 1.5 years of uptime -- be it in an isolated > environment or not -- has accumulated the bugs of 1.5 years > that have been fixed in the latest version of the OS, so to > speak. >=20 > In fact there is software which I wouldn't want to run even > if it were outdated for only a few days. Mysql is one such > example. Every time I looked at the huge list of bugs that > have been fixed in the latest version, I almost got a heart > attack. (Changing to PostgreSQL was very healthy.) A lot of security holes can be patched without rebooting. In general, only kernel updates strictly require a reboot. There have been a few kernel security vulnerabilities released in the past couple years, but a lot of them are for DoS attacks, not privelege escelation. --=20 -- Skylar Thompson (skylar@cs.earlham.edu) -- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/ --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA4v3psc4yyULgN4YRAtJ6AJ482YuZFigC6+QmUua0aCOhiGY4EwCfd8yo WvUp+m8ecT/tSthBTZC+B7I= =4FWq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 18:04:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C2D16A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:04:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ion.gank.org (ion.gank.org [69.55.238.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B664043D1D for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:04:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from craig@meoqu.gank.org) Received: from owen1492.uf.corelab.com (pix.corelab.com [12.45.169.2]) by ion.gank.org (mail) with ESMTP id 6D0012B613; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:04:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Craig Boston To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Skylar Thompson Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:04:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> <20040630175241.GC54215@quark.cs.earlham.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040630175241.GC54215@quark.cs.earlham.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406301304.11783.craig@meoqu.gank.org> Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:04:16 -0000 On Wednesday 30 June 2004 12:52 pm, Skylar Thompson wrote: > A lot of security holes can be patched without rebooting. In general, only > kernel updates strictly require a reboot. There have been a few kernel > security vulnerabilities released in the past couple years, but a lot of > them are for DoS attacks, not privelege escelation. Also, _in theory_, even many kernel bugs can be patched without rebooting. A kernel module can bypass an affected function, for example by replacing syscall table entries. It takes a lot of work and knowledge of the guts of the kernel, but it is possible. I've never done this myself but have seen it used in environments such as massive virtual hosting (we may be talking about hundreds of potentially affected servers, each with dozens of users), where a reboot is costly and painful. Craig From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 18:12:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F273F16A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:12:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from geri.cc.fer.hr (geri.cc.fer.hr [161.53.72.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD3643D5C for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:12:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (root@geri.cc.fer.hr [161.53.72.107]) by geri.cc.fer.hr (8.12.9p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i5UIBHsU026623; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:11:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Message-ID: <40E30295.3090601@fer.hr> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:12:37 +0200 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Bannert , stable@freebsd.org References: <40E26F4A.80004@fer.hr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apache2 threaded MPM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:12:51 -0000 Aaron Bannert wrote: > > On Jun 30, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > >> Can apache2 be run on FreeBSD 4.x using a threaded MPM (e.g. >> "mpm_worker")? Is anybody using this in production? > > > There are some serious problems with FreeBSD 4.x's thread support > that cause Apache's worker MPM to fail in strange and horrible ways. > It is possible to force Apache to build the worker MPM under FreeBSD 4.x, Thanks! I knew there were troubles some time ago, and wanted to know if maybe they've been fixed. Thanks for the info! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 20:02:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB5A16A525 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:02:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from devbiol.bg.biology.uwo.ca (devbiol.bg.biology.uwo.ca [129.100.68.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984A743D2F for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:02:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vzhurov@uwo.ca) Received: from [192.168.8.31] ([192.168.8.31]) (authenticated bits=0) i5UK1xcp000309 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:01:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vzhurov@uwo.ca) Message-ID: <40E31C35.9020307@uwo.ca> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:01:57 -0400 From: Vladimir Zhurov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <40DEDCD2.3020606@uwo.ca> <20040628172309.D43333@carver.gumbysoft.com> In-Reply-To: <20040628172309.D43333@carver.gumbysoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno error on FreeBSD-4.10-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:02:16 -0000 Thank you for reply. As file system problems started to pile up I have decided to re-format and restore from backups. I have tested all four HDD's in array using WD diagnostic utility and extended test did not find any problems. So I attempted to re-initialize array using the following method from the handbook (section 13.3.2.2 from "Adding disks" section (with modifications at newfs stage)): # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ar0 count=2 # disklabel /dev/ar0 | disklabel -BrR ar0 /dev/stdin # newfs -U /dev/ar0c However, if I would run fsck /dev/ar0c it would immediately report hundreds of partially allocated inodes. fdisk ar0 reports the following: ******* Working on device /dev/ar0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=19452 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=19452 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 50000 (24 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63 Is it controller/cable/some other hardware problem or is it software related and I am just doing something wrong? Vlad. >>dmesg.today: >>dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno -1721888480 >> >>messages: >>/kernel: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno -1721888480 > > > I've seen this if the array or partition table is corrupted. The check is > at the front of dscheck() in src/sys/kern/subr_diskslice.c. You might > make sure your raid array is functioning normally and the fdisk table > hasn't been spammed. > > >>Does anyone know what is the reason for such error and whether it is >>critical? > > > It shouldn't happen -- you might go exploring with fdisk(8). From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 21:09:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBAB16A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:09:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (corbulon.video-collage.com [64.35.99.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CACC43D1D for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:09:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from 250-217.customer.cloud9.net (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11])i5UL98Le098811 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:09:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5UL92gu045800 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:09:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: stable@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:09:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406301709.02239@misha-mx.virtual-estates.net> X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040615, clamav-milter version 0.73a on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: the dreaded "Resource temporarily unavailable" in vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:09:32 -0000 It just started to happen again. Over and over, I open a file, start editing, then -- at a random moment -- I get: ": input: Resource temporarily unavailable" and vi exits.... Here is the ktrace/kdump snippet: 98705 vi CALL sigaction(0x12,0x280e792c,0) 98705 vi RET sigaction 0 98705 vi CALL read(0,0x8090000,0xff) 98705 vi RET read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily unavailable 98705 vi CALL sigaction(0x12,0x280e7914,0x280e792c) 98705 vi RET sigaction 0 read(2) is failing? -mi (this is on a 4.8-STABLE kernel) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 21:30:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E201B16A4CF for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:30:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fdy2.demon.co.uk (fdy2.demon.co.uk [80.177.11.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0F943D2F for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk) Received: by fdy2.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7CFBC9F; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:29:00 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Swindells To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040630212900.7CFBC9F@fdy2.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:29:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: AGP 8x X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:30:30 -0000 I got fed up of my VIA KT400 based system rebooting every five minutes so I have back-ported the -CURRENT AGP 3.0 changes to -STABLE. It seems fine so far, but it probably needs a bit more testing. Diffs are at: Robert Swindells From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 02:05:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9049616A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:05:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E3943D2F for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:05:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1E9C672DF4; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9DB72DF2; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:05:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Aaron Bannert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040630190307.Q66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <40E26F4A.80004@fer.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache2 threaded MPM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:05:47 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Aaron Bannert wrote: > > On Jun 30, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > > > Can apache2 be run on FreeBSD 4.x using a threaded MPM (e.g. > > "mpm_worker")? Is anybody using this in production? > > There are some serious problems with FreeBSD 4.x's thread support that > cause Apache's worker MPM to fail in strange and horrible ways. It is > possible to force Apache to build the worker MPM under FreeBSD 4.x, but > you have to hack around the safeguards we put in that disallow this. > Even if you manage to get it to work I'd completely avoid it for > production machines. I've heard good reports from people running worker > under 5.x though. Yes, the threaded MPMs are MUCH better under 5.x, which has proper kernel-based thread support. On 4.x, its a userland scheduler running as a single process (libc_r), and performance _SUCKS_. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 02:12:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AD216A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:12:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D23F43D2D for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:12:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E18E172DF4; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF95272DF2; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:12:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Vladimir Zhurov In-Reply-To: <40E31C35.9020307@uwo.ca> Message-ID: <20040630190707.T66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <40DEDCD2.3020606@uwo.ca> <20040628172309.D43333@carver.gumbysoft.com> <40E31C35.9020307@uwo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno error on FreeBSD-4.10-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:12:06 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Vladimir Zhurov wrote: > Thank you for reply. > > As file system problems started to pile up I have decided to re-format > and restore from backups. I have tested all four HDD's in array using WD > diagnostic utility and extended test did not find any problems. > So I attempted to re-initialize array using the following method from > the handbook (section 13.3.2.2 from "Adding disks" section (with > modifications at newfs stage)): > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ar0 count=2 > # disklabel /dev/ar0 | disklabel -BrR ar0 /dev/stdin > # newfs -U /dev/ar0c Some problems: 1. You forgot to create the array. 2. This is a 'dangerously dedicated' partition and should not be used for booting. Run fdisk(8) and create a slice first, then disklabel that. 2. Don't use partition c, its magic. Run disklabel -e on ar0 after the previous diskalbel command and use a different partition. You can copy the parameters for partition c, to, say, d, but don't use c directly. > However, if I would run fsck /dev/ar0c it would immediately report > hundreds of partially allocated inodes. This usually happens if only part othe array is being written to but the entire array is being read from. If you were to mount the partition, you'd get a panic. > > fdisk ar0 reports the following: > > ******* Working on device /dev/ar0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=19452 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=19452 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 0, size 50000 (24 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 0/ sector 1; > end: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63 > > Is it controller/cable/some other hardware problem or is it software > related and I am just doing something wrong? > > Vlad. > > >>dmesg.today: > >>dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno -1721888480 > >> > >>messages: > >>/kernel: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno -1721888480 > > > > > > I've seen this if the array or partition table is corrupted. The check is > > at the front of dscheck() in src/sys/kern/subr_diskslice.c. You might > > make sure your raid array is functioning normally and the fdisk table > > hasn't been spammed. > > > > > >>Does anyone know what is the reason for such error and whether it is > >>critical? > > > > > > It shouldn't happen -- you might go exploring with fdisk(8). > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 02:13:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7743316A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:13:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF5A43D58 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:13:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C0D3F72DF2; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED6D72DB5; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:13:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Mikhail Teterin In-Reply-To: <200406301709.02239@misha-mx.virtual-estates.net> Message-ID: <20040630191238.C66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <200406301709.02239@misha-mx.virtual-estates.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: the dreaded "Resource temporarily unavailable" in vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:13:35 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > It just started to happen again. Over and over, I open a file, start > editing, then -- at a random moment -- I get: ": input: Resource > temporarily unavailable" and vi exits.... > > Here is the ktrace/kdump snippet: > > 98705 vi CALL sigaction(0x12,0x280e792c,0) > 98705 vi RET sigaction 0 > 98705 vi CALL read(0,0x8090000,0xff) > 98705 vi RET read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily unavailable > 98705 vi CALL sigaction(0x12,0x280e7914,0x280e792c) > 98705 vi RET sigaction 0 > > read(2) is failing? yes we know. I've debugged this myself and its not clear WHY its returning EAGAIN. Also hacking vi to handle EAGAIN here is very difficult, and really it should handle it. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 02:14:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33DA16A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:14:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA50D43D2D for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:14:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9738672DF4; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D5672DF2; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:14:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Robert Swindells In-Reply-To: <20040630212900.7CFBC9F@fdy2.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20040630191341.S66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20040630212900.7CFBC9F@fdy2.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AGP 8x X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:14:56 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Robert Swindells wrote: > > I got fed up of my VIA KT400 based system rebooting every five minutes > so I have back-ported the -CURRENT AGP 3.0 changes to -STABLE. Which board do you have? AGP8x is hopelessly broken on my Soyo KT400 based board; I just gave up and demote it to 4x in Windows. THeres a KT400A variant, which leads me to think that its a problem with the chipset. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 02:44:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE73B16A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:44:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tinker.exit.com (tinker.exit.com [206.223.0.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC0543D5C for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:43:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i612hOXr015814; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by realtime.exit.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i612hOCv003815; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@realtime.exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i612hOpS003814; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200407010243.i612hOpS003814@realtime.exit.com> In-Reply-To: <20040630191238.C66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> To: Doug White Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:43:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Copyright0: Copyright 2004 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99f (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII cc: Mikhail Teterin cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the dreaded "Resource temporarily unavailable" in vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank@exit.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:44:01 -0000 Doug White wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > read(2) is failing? > yes we know. I've debugged this myself and its not clear WHY its > returning EAGAIN. Also hacking vi to handle EAGAIN here is very difficult, > and really it should handle it. One (small) datapoint, I seem to see it much more often when I'm using an ssh session that also has an X application (evolution, mostly) running in the background. I haven't really tested this, I just have the somewhat vague impression that if I avoid "the session with evolution running," I won't run into the problem. FWIW. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/ http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 06:11:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE3916A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 06:11:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pc5.i.0x5.de (n.0x5.de [213.146.113.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE0A43D46 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 06:11:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicolas@i.0x5.de) Received: from pc5.i.0x5.de (nicolas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc5.i.0x5.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i616B7eW035008 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:11:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nicolas@pc5.i.0x5.de) Received: (from nicolas@localhost) by pc5.i.0x5.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i616B7Du035007 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:11:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nicolas) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:11:06 +0200 From: Nicolas Rachinsky To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040701061106.GA34875@pc5.i.0x5.de> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <200406301709.02239@misha-mx.virtual-estates.net> <20040630191238.C66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040630191238.C66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> X-Powered-by: FreeBSD X-Homepage: http://www.rachinsky.de X-PGP-Keyid: C11ABC0E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 19DB 8392 8FE0 814A 7362 EEBD A53B 526A C11A BC0E X-PGP-Key: http://www.rachinsky.de/nicolas/nicolas_rachinsky.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: the dreaded "Resource temporarily unavailable" in vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:11:16 -0000 * Doug White [2004-06-30 19:13 -0700]: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > It just started to happen again. Over and over, I open a file, start > > editing, then -- at a random moment -- I get: ": input: Resource > > temporarily unavailable" and vi exits.... > > yes we know. I've debugged this myself and its not clear WHY its > returning EAGAIN. Also hacking vi to handle EAGAIN here is very difficult, > and really it should handle it. It sounds somehow similar to the thread starting with <200308071230.h77CUMgj003099@dungeon.home> on freebsd stable (Subject: nvi dying with "Resource temporarily unavailable"/Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:30:22 +1000). Nicolas From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 07:32:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA8616A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 07:32:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD6AB43D5C for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 07:32:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: (qmail 69956 messnum 175839 invoked from network[159.134.255.210/159-134-255-210.as1.nas.naas.eircom.net]); 1 Jul 2004 07:32:10 -0000 Received: from 159-134-255-210.as1.nas.naas.eircom.net (HELO localhost) (159.134.255.210) by mail03.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 69956) with SMTP; 1 Jul 2004 07:32:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:32:04 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "Conrad Burger" Message-Id: <20040701083204.790719f2.steve@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) X-Face: %]+HVL}K`P8>+8ZcY-WGHP6j@&mxMo9JH6_WdgIgUGH)JX/usO0%jy7T~IVgqjumD^OBqX,Kv^-GM6mlw(fI^$"QRKyZ$?xx/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atacontrol Raid, cannot re-add member to array X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:32:20 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:40:11 +0200 "Conrad Burger" wrote: > > That's until I unplugged one of the array members. > The system boots up fine from the second disk, > but the problem ... I can't get atacontrol to rebuild the mirror onto the > disk that was removed. > > I have tried every command on the atacontrol man page, but to no avail. I came across this advice in a December 2003 posting here, I'd be interested to know if it works for you. ------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Schmalzbauer To: andris@multicom.lv, Subject: Re: Problem with Sil 680 RAID card Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:04:41 +0100 Rebuilding is a bit complex. You have to do a 'atacontrol detach "channelOfTheFailedDrive"' and 'atacontrol attach "channelOfTheFailedDrive"' then 'atacontrol rebuild ar0' -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- C:>WIN | Solar Thermal Systems The computer obeys and wins. | http://www.soleire.com/ You lose and Bill collects. | Directable Mirror Arrays | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 08:00:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689E316A4CF for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:00:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.khimvolokno.com.ua (ns.khimvolokno.com.ua [212.82.217.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FB643D46 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from meon@ukr.net) Received: from wh20901.cfibre.com (wh20901.cfibre.com [192.168.0.31]) i6180fcg025705 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:00:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from meon@ukr.net) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:00:09 +0300 From: Maxym Dubovych X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.10) Business Organization: OJSC"Cherkassy khimvolokno" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <88519881.20040701110009@ukr.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=3.5 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on ns.khimvolokno.com.ua X-Kaspersky-Checking: Passed Subject: Proftpd problem with install X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maxym Dubovych List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:00:33 -0000 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p1 When I try to install proftpd i have cd /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd make install clean ... ===> Building for proftpd-1.2.10.r1 echo \#define BUILD_STAMP \"`date`\" >include/buildstamp.h cd lib/ && gmake lib gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd/work/proftpd-1.2.10rc1/lib' cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c pr_fnmatch.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c sstrncpy.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c strsep.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c vsnprintf.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c glibc-glob.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c glibc-hstrerror.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c glibc-mkstemp.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c pr-syslog.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c pwgrent.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c getopt.c cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c getopt1.c ar rc libsupp.a pr_fnmatch.o sstrncpy.o strsep.o vsnprintf.o glibc-glob.o glibc-hstrerror.o glibc-mkstemp.o pr-syslog.o pwgrent.o getopt.o getopt1.o ranlib libsupp.a gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd/work/proftpd-1.2.10rc1/lib' cd src/ && gmake src gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd/work/proftpd-1.2.10rc1/src' cc -DFREEBSD4_10 -DFREEBSD4 -I.. -I../include -O -pipe -Wall -c main.c gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/ftp/proftpd/work/proftpd-1.2.10rc1/src' *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd. -- Best regards, Maxym mailto:meon@ukr.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 08:22:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F0E16A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:22:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enterprise.another.com.au (dsl-210-15-193-5.TAS.netspace.net.au [210.15.193.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4288B43D45 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:22:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@another.com.au) Received: from enterprise.another.com.au (nobody@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i618LeUp003985 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:21:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from richard@enterprise.another.com.au) Received: from localhost (richard@localhost)i618LdlD003982 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:21:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from richard@enterprise.another.com.au) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:21:39 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Beyer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040701181930.U3675@enterprise.another.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.73, clamav-milter version 0.73a on enterprise.another.com.au X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (enterprise.another.com.au) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-101.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mail.another.com.au Subject: Buildworld GCC version X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:22:48 -0000 I understand the gcc version that buildworld uses is the system version (e.g.) > tsmel> gcc -v > Using builtin specs. > gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD] If I've installed gcc3.3 how can I change the default compiler so that it uses the updated version, or is there some reason I should leave it on gcc2.95 Cheers, Richard From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 08:57:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC73B16A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:57:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8D743D2F for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:57:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9AD4AC9E; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:59:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Cordula's Web To: richard@another.com.au In-reply-to: <20040701181930.U3675@enterprise.another.com.au> (message from Richard Beyer on Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:21:39 +1000 (EST)) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-5.2.1-RELEASE References: <20040701181930.U3675@enterprise.another.com.au> Message-Id: <20040701085939.CC9AD4AC9E@fw.farid-hajji.net> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:59:39 +0200 (CEST) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld GCC version X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:57:58 -0000 > > tsmel> gcc -v > > Using builtin specs. > > gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD] > > If I've installed gcc3.3 how can I change the default compiler so that it > uses the updated version, or is there some reason I should leave it on > gcc2.95 Just set the CC environment variable to gcc33 (or whatever) before invoking configure, make, ... $ env CC=gcc33 ./configure $ env CC=gcc33 make > Cheers, > Richard -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 09:01:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6B816A4CF for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:01:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F273343D46 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:01:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.35])i6190AP6023268; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 05:00:19 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D39252211; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:00:00 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Richard Beyer Message-ID: <20040701090000.GA22893@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040701181930.U3675@enterprise.another.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040701181930.U3675@enterprise.another.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld GCC version X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:01:36 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 06:21:39PM +1000, Richard Beyer wrote: > I understand the gcc version that buildworld uses is the system version= =20 > (e.g.) >=20 > >tsmel> gcc -v > >Using builtin specs. > >gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD] >=20 > If I've installed gcc3.3 how can I change the default compiler so that it= =20 > uses the updated version, or is there some reason I should leave it on=20 > gcc2.95 One rather good reason is that you can't compile the base system with a version of gcc that isn't the one in the base system :-). If you badly want a version of FreeBSD compiled with gcc 3.3, you can update to FreeBSD 5.x. Kris --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA49KQWry0BWjoQKURAtm8AJ4whk/ia+7D+Jh4hpjKZtQ4HlrWqgCdGiA8 EshJPjOLkwJKTlYIdRJaAfU= =RvOt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 09:13:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9332216A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:13:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fdy2.demon.co.uk (fdy2.demon.co.uk [80.177.11.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EF143D45 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:13:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk) Received: by fdy2.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7D860EF; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:12:28 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Swindells To: dwhite@gumbysoft.com In-reply-to: <20040630191341.S66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> (message from Doug White on Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:14:55 -0700 (PDT)) Message-Id: <20040701091228.7D860EF@fdy2.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:12:28 +0100 (BST) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AGP 8x X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:13:59 -0000 >On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Robert Swindells wrote: >> >> I got fed up of my VIA KT400 based system rebooting every five minutes >> so I have back-ported the -CURRENT AGP 3.0 changes to -STABLE. >Which board do you have? AGP8x is hopelessly broken on my Soyo KT400 based >board; I just gave up and demote it to 4x in Windows. Asus A7V8X-X. >THeres a KT400A variant, which leads me to think that its a problem with >the chipset. I thought that the 'A' added DDR400 support. The -CURRENT code will only enable AGP8x if it detects the devid of the KT880. I'll submit a PR to fix this. Robert Swindells From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 09:29:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DFC16A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:29:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D3543D41 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:29:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 074151361E; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:28:51 +1200 (NZST) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:28:51 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Richard Beyer Message-ID: <20040701092850.GB92293@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <20040701181930.U3675@enterprise.another.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040701181930.U3675@enterprise.another.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld GCC version X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:29:07 -0000 On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 06:21:39PM +1000, Richard Beyer wrote: > I understand the gcc version that buildworld uses is the system version > (e.g.) > > >tsmel> gcc -v > >Using builtin specs. > >gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD] > > If I've installed gcc3.3 how can I change the default compiler so that it > uses the updated version, or is there some reason I should leave it on > gcc2.95 If you don't use the system compiler, you won't be able to buildworld. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Power corrupts, Absolute Power is pretty neat From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 10:02:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608DD16A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:02:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A014043D39 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:02:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.12.9/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i61A1MIj087304 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:01:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost)i61A1LpX087301 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:01:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:01:21 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: FreeBSD stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040701115949.K86869@ramstind.gtf.ol.no> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: Re: wizardwaves.com mailing list memberships reminder X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:02:05 -0000 What the f*** is this? Another list subscribed to this list? Someone, please remove the wizardwaves stuff. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 4.8-S & Pine 4.55 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 14:13:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C5516A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:13:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA8743D4C for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:13:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from user167.net370.fl.sprint-hsd.net ([65.40.55.167] helo=kt.weeble.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Bg2JB-0001Ie-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:13:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:15:06 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040701101506.58d3bbed.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:13:47 -0000 I had an odd thing happen yesterday that I've never seen. Here's the info from /var/log/messages: Jun 30 11:06:22 kt /kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed Jun 30 11:06:23 kt last message repeated 26 times Jun 30 11:07:27 kt last message repeated 25 times Jun 30 11:12:23 kt last message repeated 44 times Jun 30 11:12:23 kt /kernel: pid 876 (opera), uid 1001, was killed: out of swap space Eventually things got worse. I tried to switch to another workspace and lost 4 out of 7 workspaces. The applications that were there were still running. After manually killing the processes, I rebooted and things returned to normal. I did see some discussion in the -current archives where it was thought it might be some XFree86 memory leak issues. A google search for "swap_pager_getswapspace failed 2004" turned up: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=cak3qd%24kv3%241%40FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26q%3Dswap_pager_getswapspace%2Bfailed%2B2004%26btnG%3DSearch%26meta%3Dgroup%253Dmailing.freebsd.* >From uname -a: 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Sat Jun 5 15:39:24 EDT 2004 >From dmesg: real memory = 536805376 (524224K bytes) avail memory = 516714496 (504604K bytes) >From swapinfo: Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/ad0s1b 1032624 304 1032320 0% Interleaved I update ports daily so everything is at the latest versions available. If this happens again, what kind of information should I collect so that it might be of value? Best regards, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 17:16:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763CD16A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:16:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hermes.uci.kun.nl (hermes.uci.kun.nl [131.174.93.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A6343D45 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:16:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xdamen@sci.kun.nl) Received: from bavaria (vhe-383505.sshn.net [195.169.208.89]) by hermes.uci.kun.nl (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30689) with SMTP id <0I0600H3ZNYM1B@hermes.uci.kun.nl> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:15:59 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:14:55 +0200 From: Xander Damen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <002001c45f8e$edec2f10$0200000a@bavaria> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2149 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2149 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Compile php5 RC3 / php5-cvs on freebsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:16:34 -0000 Hi all, I was trying to compile php5 on my freebsd server, but when running make = it exits on the following error: ext/standard/dns.lo: In function `zif_dns_get_record': /usr/home/x/php5-200407011630/ext/standard/dns.c:631: undefined = reference to `res_ninit' /usr/home/x/php5-200407011630/ext/standard/dns.c:635: undefined = reference to `res_nmkquery' /usr/home/x/php5-200407011630/ext/standard/dns.c:641: undefined = reference to `res_nsend' /usr/home/x/php5-200407011630/ext/standard/dns.c:677: undefined = reference to `res_nclose' *** Error code 1 It has been on a freebsdlist before: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/028685= .html It has been on bugs.php.net as well: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=3D26544 Can anybody help me? I'd really like to use php5! Thanks, Xander From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 19:08:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C54D16A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:08:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7BD43D55 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:08:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.35])i61Ie0P6029582; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:40:00 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EB22E52364; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:39:49 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Randy Pratt Message-ID: <20040701183949.GA30537@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040701101506.58d3bbed.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040701101506.58d3bbed.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:08:58 -0000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 10:15:06AM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > I had an odd thing happen yesterday that I've never seen. Here's the > info from /var/log/messages: >=20 > Jun 30 11:06:22 kt /kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed > Jun 30 11:06:23 kt last message repeated 26 times > Jun 30 11:07:27 kt last message repeated 25 times > Jun 30 11:12:23 kt last message repeated 44 times > Jun 30 11:12:23 kt /kernel: pid 876 (opera), uid 1001, was killed: out of= swap space >=20 > Eventually things got worse. I tried to switch to another > workspace and lost 4 out of 7 workspaces. The applications that > were there were still running. After manually killing the=20 > processes, I rebooted and things returned to normal. > If this happens again, what kind of information should I collect > so that it might be of value? Use top or ps to find out what process is using all the swap. Kris --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA5Fp1Wry0BWjoQKURAo2eAJ9oWsyKyuwwZRImoMJArO+y1Smr9ACgy8AS vn1p3sP/xFJrFlvnY4Mowss= =p+vv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 1 23:34:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B80016A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:34:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from devbiol.bg.biology.uwo.ca (devbiol.bg.biology.uwo.ca [129.100.68.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654C743D41 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:34:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vzhurov@uwo.ca) Received: from [192.168.8.31] ([192.168.8.31]) (authenticated bits=0) i61NWLvs001050 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:32:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vzhurov@uwo.ca) Message-ID: <40E49F0B.5010005@uwo.ca> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:32:27 -0400 From: Vladimir Zhurov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <40DEDCD2.3020606@uwo.ca> <20040628172309.D43333@carver.gumbysoft.com> <40E31C35.9020307@uwo.ca> <20040630190707.T66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> In-Reply-To: <20040630190707.T66769@carver.gumbysoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dscheck(#ar/2): negative b_blkno error on FreeBSD-4.10-STABLE - SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 23:34:25 -0000 Thank you for suggestions. Finally, I have solved the problem. It was in fact hardware failure. One of the drives in array failed (despite the "no error found" verdict of WD DLG utility). I discovered it by deleting array and initializing drives individually. But it raises another question. Obviously fsck was right reporting errors, atacontrol and WD DLG were wrong reporting that everything was fine (I am not sure that atacontrol is designed to detect such errors anyway), but how would one figure out which drive failed in such a case without actually going into complete re-formating of array? Vlad. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 2 08:23:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1857716A4CE; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:23:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cs1.cs.huji.ac.il (cs1.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C5F43D2D; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:23:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=danny) by cs1.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1BgJJg-000Off-2Z; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:22:40 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:22:39 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: <20040702082354.C1C5F43D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: Soren Schmidt Subject: problems with RAID0 and Intel/SE7501WV2/Promise X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 08:23:55 -0000 Hi, the raid info keeps disappearing!, and im not convinced it's hardware. I've tried it on 2 different - but similar - boxes, after some time, kernel reports something like: Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad6: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad6 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) trying PIO mode Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad4: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad4 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) trying PIO mode Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad6: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad6 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) status=51 error=10 Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad4: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad4 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) status=51 error=10 Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken from dmesg: ... FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #7: Fri Jul 2 09:57:10 IDT 2004 ... ar0: 381564MB [48642/255/63] status: READY subdisks: 0 READY ad4: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 1 READY ad6: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100 i've partitioned the disk so: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1024000 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 90 # (Cyl. 0 - 63*) b: 8388608 1024000 swap # (Cyl. 63*- 585*) c: 781433667 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 48641*) d: 1024000 9412608 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 585*- 649*) h: 770997059 10436608 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 649*- 48641*) the machine boots diskless, so just to check the disk i did a newfs -U to /dev/ar0s1a, then restored a root image unto it, no problems. the h partition has a big postgres data base, starting postgres i get the above error, notice that the error is a bit suspicious, fsbn 0 ( ... bn 0; cn 0; tn 0; sn 0) using the Fastrack/Promise Bios i reconfigure the Raid, and if tried the above again with the same results. btw, on a different host, same motherboard, same type of disks, with a older kernel, it panics, but the disk error is the same, and the array info is lost. Any more info/help needed to track this down? thanks, danny From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 2 10:29:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C520A16A4CF for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:29:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hermes.uci.kun.nl (hermes.uci.kun.nl [131.174.93.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFB143D2D for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:29:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xdamen@sci.kun.nl) Received: from bavaria (vhe-383505.sshn.net [195.169.208.89]) by hermes.uci.kun.nl (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30689) with SMTP id <0I07000QLZPYFQ@hermes.uci.kun.nl> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:27:38 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:26:26 +0200 From: Xander Damen To: Craig Rodrigues Message-id: <001801c4601f$07fdc220$0200000a@bavaria> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2149 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2149 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=original; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <002001c45f8e$edec2f10$0200000a@bavaria> <20040702015341.GA81389@crodrigues.org> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compile php5 RC3 / php5-cvs on freebsd 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 10:29:14 -0000 That, the RC3 from the php and the latest snapshot... All the same error.. php says it's a freebsd problem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Rodrigues" To: "Xander Damen" Sent: Friday 02 July 2004 3:53 Subject: Re: Compile php5 RC3 / php5-cvs on freebsd 4.10 > On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 07:14:55PM +0200, Xander Damen wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I was trying to compile php5 on my freebsd server, but when running make >> it exits on the following error: > > How did you compile php5? Did you do: > > cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 > make install; make clean > > > -- > Craig Rodrigues > http://crodrigues.org > rodrigc@crodrigues.org > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 2 20:55:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178EF16A4CE for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:55:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA0B43D41 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:55:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4AAF972DF2; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4953B72DB5; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:54:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= In-Reply-To: <20040701115949.K86869@ramstind.gtf.ol.no> Message-ID: <20040702135412.B84991@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20040701115949.K86869@ramstind.gtf.ol.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE cc: FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: wizardwaves.com mailing list memberships reminder X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 20:55:58 -0000 On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, [ISO-8859-1] Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: > What the f*** is this? > Another list subscribed to this list? > Someone, please remove the wizardwaves stuff. The troll is at work again. I'm working on unsubbing this (if it hasn't already been done by some enterprising individual). --=20 Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 2 20:58:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4EC16A4CE; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:58:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1335D43D2D; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:58:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C775672DF2; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E1972DB5; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:56:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Danny Braniss In-Reply-To: <20040702082354.C1C5F43D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20040702135611.A84991@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20040702082354.C1C5F43D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Soren Schmidt Subject: Re: problems with RAID0 and Intel/SE7501WV2/Promise X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 20:58:29 -0000 On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Danny Braniss wrote: > Hi, > the raid info keeps disappearing!, and im not convinced it's > hardware. I've tried it on 2 different - but similar - boxes, after some > time, kernel reports something like: > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad6: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad6 > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) trying PIO mode How did you construct the array volume? This looks like one of the offsets in the disklabel is wrong. > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad4: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad4 > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) trying PIO mode > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad6: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad6 > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) status=51 error=10 > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad4: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad4 > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) status=51 error=10 > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > > from dmesg: > ... > FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #7: Fri Jul 2 09:57:10 IDT 2004 > ... > ar0: 381564MB [48642/255/63] status: READY subdisks: > 0 READY ad4: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 > 1 READY ad6: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata3-master > UDMA100 > > i've partitioned the disk so: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 1024000 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 90 # (Cyl. 0 - 63*) > b: 8388608 1024000 swap # (Cyl. 63*- 585*) > c: 781433667 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 48641*) > d: 1024000 9412608 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 585*- 649*) > h: 770997059 10436608 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 649*- 48641*) > > the machine boots diskless, so just to check the disk i did a newfs -U to > /dev/ar0s1a, > then restored a root image unto it, no problems. > > the h partition has a big postgres data base, starting postgres i get the > above error, notice that > the error is a bit suspicious, fsbn 0 ( ... bn 0; cn 0; tn 0; sn 0) > > using the Fastrack/Promise Bios i reconfigure the Raid, and if tried the above > again with > the same results. > > btw, on a different host, same motherboard, same type of disks, with a older > kernel, > it panics, but the disk error is the same, and the array info is lost. > > > Any more info/help needed to track this down? > > thanks, > danny > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 3 06:45:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3715C16A4CE; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 06:45:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cs1.cs.huji.ac.il (cs1.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E797343D39; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 06:45:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=danny) by cs1.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1BgeHO-000PfH-P1; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 09:45:42 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Doug White In-Reply-To: Message from Doug White <20040702135611.A84991@carver.gumbysoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 09:45:42 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: <20040703064543.E797343D39@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Soren Schmidt Subject: Re: problems with RAID0 and Intel/SE7501WV2/Promise X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 06:45:44 -0000 > On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Danny Braniss wrote: > > > Hi, > > the raid info keeps disappearing!, and im not convinced it's > > hardware. I've tried it on 2 different - but similar - boxes, after some > > time, kernel reports something like: > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad6: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad6 > > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) trying PIO mode > > How did you construct the array volume? This looks like one of the > offsets in the disklabel is wrong. > I used sysinstall, and disklabel -e to change the partition letters. The problem appears after several hours of disk usage, and the only partition in use is h. > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad4: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad4 > > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) trying PIO mode > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad6: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad6 > > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) status=51 error=10 > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad4: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad4 > > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) status=51 error=10 > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > > > > from dmesg: > > ... > > FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #7: Fri Jul 2 09:57:10 IDT 2004 > > ... > > ar0: 381564MB [48642/255/63] status: READY subdisks: > > 0 READY ad4: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 > > 1 READY ad6: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata3-master > > UDMA100 > > > > i've partitioned the disk so: > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > a: 1024000 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 90 # (Cyl. 0 - 63*) > > b: 8388608 1024000 swap # (Cyl. 63*- 585*) > > c: 781433667 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 48641*) > > d: 1024000 9412608 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 585*- 649*) > > h: 770997059 10436608 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 649*- 48641*) > > > > the machine boots diskless, so just to check the disk i did a newfs -U to > > /dev/ar0s1a, > > then restored a root image unto it, no problems. > > > > the h partition has a big postgres data base, starting postgres i get the > > above error, notice that > > the error is a bit suspicious, fsbn 0 ( ... bn 0; cn 0; tn 0; sn 0) > > > > using the Fastrack/Promise Bios i reconfigure the Raid, and if tried the above > > again with > > the same results. > > > > btw, on a different host, same motherboard, same type of disks, with a older > > kernel, > > it panics, but the disk error is the same, and the array info is lost. > > > > > > Any more info/help needed to track this down? > > > > thanks, > > danny > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 3 10:16:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313F716A4CE; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 10:16:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cs1.cs.huji.ac.il (cs1.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8C843D1F; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 10:16:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=danny) by cs1.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1BghZh-0003L5-CI; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:16:49 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message from Danny Braniss <20040703064543.E797343D39@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:16:49 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: <20040703101650.AA8C843D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: Soren Schmidt Subject: Re: problems with RAID0 and Intel/SE7501WV2/Promise X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 10:16:51 -0000 > > On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Danny Braniss wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > the raid info keeps disappearing!, and im not convinced it's > > > hardware. I've tried it on 2 different - but similar - boxes, after some > > > time, kernel reports something like: > > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad6: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad6 > > > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) trying PIO mode > > > > How did you construct the array volume? This looks like one of the > > offsets in the disklabel is wrong. > > > > I used sysinstall, and disklabel -e to change the partition letters. > The problem appears after several hours of disk usage, and the only > partition in use is h. > whops, rereading the question, here is the correct answer, sorry. I used the bios to define the raid0, stripe, 2 disks. (the menu is 'fool-proof', so i guess i couldn't have made a mistook :-) > > > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad4: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad4 > > > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) trying PIO mode > > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad6: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad6 > > > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) status=51 error=10 > > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ad4: hard error writing fsbn 0 (ad4 > > > bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) status=51 error=10 > > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > > > Jul 2 10:18:35 cs7.cs.huji.ac.il /kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > > > > > > from dmesg: > > > ... > > > FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #7: Fri Jul 2 09:57:10 IDT 2004 > > > ... > > > ar0: 381564MB [48642/255/63] status: READY subdisks: > > > 0 READY ad4: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 > > > 1 READY ad6: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata3-master > > > UDMA100 > > > > > > i've partitioned the disk so: > > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > > a: 1024000 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 90 # (Cyl. 0 - 63*) > > > b: 8388608 1024000 swap # (Cyl. 63*- 585*) > > > c: 781433667 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 48641*) > > > d: 1024000 9412608 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 585*- 649*) > > > h: 770997059 10436608 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 649*- 48641*) > > > > > > the machine boots diskless, so just to check the disk i did a newfs -U to > > > /dev/ar0s1a, > > > then restored a root image unto it, no problems. > > > > > > the h partition has a big postgres data base, starting postgres i get the > > > above error, notice that > > > the error is a bit suspicious, fsbn 0 ( ... bn 0; cn 0; tn 0; sn 0) > > > > > > using the Fastrack/Promise Bios i reconfigure the Raid, and if tried the above > > > again with > > > the same results. > > > > > > btw, on a different host, same motherboard, same type of disks, with a older > > > kernel, > > > it panics, but the disk error is the same, and the array info is lost. > > > > > > > > > Any more info/help needed to track this down? > > > > > > thanks, > > > danny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > -- > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > > dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 3 19:11:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB9E16A4CE for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 19:11:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from k.ro (www.k.ro [194.102.255.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6954343D55 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 19:11:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hannibal@k.ro) Received: from k.ro (www@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by k.ro (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i63JBiuK032573 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:11:44 +0300 Received: (from www@localhost) by k.ro (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i63JBhVv032572; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:11:43 +0300 Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 22:11:43 +0300 Message-Id: <200407031911.i63JBhVv032572@k.ro> From: Hannibal X-Mailer: Super-Mail@k.ro http://mail.k.ro/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender-IP: 81.196.254.49 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: help on kopete X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 19:11:47 -0000 hi I just installed freebsd 4.10 and chosed Kde as my desktop. Anyway I went on trying kopete and I saw that It can't connect to Yahoo Messenger (I know that Yahoo changed something in the protocol). Anyway, can you guys tell me how can I fix Kopete? How can I download a new version of Kopete that can connect to YM? I'm very new to Freebsd and that's why I seek help here, Mihai --------------------------------- Vreau sa-mi inregistrez CV-ul la BursaMuncii! Vreti sa publicati oferte de munca? Noi avem solutia! Lasa profesionistii sa lucreze pentru tine! http://www.bursamuncii.ro From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 3 20:03:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B44416A4CF for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:03:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A4C43D41 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:03:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from so14k@so14k.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317A0801; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:03:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com ([216.38.206.180]) by localhost (valentine.liquidneon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68325-09; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65176AB; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 199.201.236.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user so14k@so14k.com); by webmail.liquidneon.com with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <55716.199.201.236.2.1088885002.squirrel@199.201.236.2> In-Reply-To: <200407031911.i63JBhVv032572@k.ro> References: <200407031911.i63JBhVv032572@k.ro> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:03:22 -0600 (MDT) From: so14k@so14k.com To: "Hannibal" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at liquidneon.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help on kopete X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 20:03:24 -0000 > > hi > > I just installed freebsd 4.10 and chosed Kde as my desktop. Anyway I went > on trying kopete and I saw that It can't connect to Yahoo Messenger (I > know > that Yahoo changed something in the protocol). Anyway, can you guys tell > me > how can I fix Kopete? How can I download a new version of Kopete that can > connect to YM? > > I'm very new to Freebsd and that's why I seek help here, Wrong list... but you need to cvsup and rebuild kdenetwork3. Regards, Brad Davis