From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 16:21:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA4A16A4CE for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:21:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D1D43D48 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:21:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jstn@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jstn@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.2]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j17GKDHU016125 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:20:13 GMT Received: (from jstn@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) id j17GKD4D028432 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:20:13 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Pessa Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 11:20:13 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050207162013.GA10210@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Subject: Daemon News X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:21:08 -0000 --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone, I was wondering who has subscribed to Daemon News? (ezine.daemonnews.org) I have subscribed however my first issue was from 2002. I emailed the ediors twice (the only address I could dig up) and did not hear back. I realize this may not be the forum for this issue, but I'm curious if anyone else has had a problem with Daemon News?=20 I'm very interested in the magazine as a good resource, however I'm a bit frusterated with them at this point. I don't want this to be a negative reflection on Daemon News bu I'm curious if anyone else shares my frusterations? Thanks!=20 - jstn __ __ __ __=20 |__|.--.--.-----.| |_|__|.-----.| | _?_ | || | |__ --|| _| || ||__| (o-0)=09 | ||_____|_____||____|__||__|__||__| -ooO--(_)--Ooo- |___| "talk is cheap because jstn.sdf1.org =20 supply exceeds demand." --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFCB5U8Ppr5wVVwYfURAsrtAKCza9uw4pzU6d6rLQA/ICBW6IGdDwCg1WJm tzpe/X2dTln25u+hgcIyErs= =qbrh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 18:40:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E31416A4CF for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:40:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A716743D46 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:40:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.163 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 18:40:15 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:40:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050207162013.GA10210@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> In-Reply-To: <20050207162013.GA10210@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200502071040.13714.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Justin Pessa Subject: Re: Daemon News X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:40:16 -0000 On Monday 07 February 2005 08:20 am, Justin Pessa wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I was wondering who has subscribed to Daemon News? > (ezine.daemonnews.org) > > I have subscribed however my first issue was from 2002. I emailed the > ediors twice (the only address I could dig up) and did not hear back. As far as I understand, that's the latest issue: http://magazine.daemonnews.org/issue7.php > I realize this may not be the forum for this issue, but I'm curious > if anyone else has had a problem with Daemon News? > > I'm very interested in the magazine as a good resource, however I'm a > bit frusterated with them at this point. > > I don't want this to be a negative reflection on Daemon News bu I'm > curious if anyone else shares my frusterations? I don't know what's going on there. Obviously the site is still running and is updated regularly, but the print magazine hasn't had a new issue in over two years. I'm sure their intentions aren't malicious, but if I were you I'd ask for my money back. - jt From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 18:56:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E10E16A4CE for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:56:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ew.co.za (g2.endorphinweb.co.za [196.41.15.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD3343D49 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:56:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@mnet-online.de) X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Sophos http://www.messagepartners.com X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP v.2 (www.messagepartners.com) X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/ClamAV http://www.messagepartners.com Received: from [62.245.141.232] (unverified [62.245.141.232]) by ew.co.za (SurgeMail 2.2c10) with ESMTP id 8409 for multiple; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:54:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20050207162013.GA10210@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <20050207162013.GA10210@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stephan Lichtenauer Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:54:30 +0100 To: Justin Pessa X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: s01@lichtenauer.co.za cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daemon News X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:56:10 -0000 Am 07.02.2005 um 17:20 schrieb Justin Pessa: > Hello Everyone, > > I was wondering who has subscribed to Daemon News? > (ezine.daemonnews.org) > > I have subscribed however my first issue was from 2002. I emailed the > ediors twice (the only address I could dig up) and did not hear back. > > I realize this may not be the forum for this issue, but I'm curious if > anyone else has had a problem with Daemon News? > > Hi Justin, bought the latest "Winter" edition as PDF download and also found out after buying it that it is from winter 2002, not this winter... I sent them an email that they should at least write that on the website but I also got no reply. Stephan From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 7 23:41:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2400016A4CE for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:41:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC08043D4C for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:41:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:41:34 -0600 Message-ID: <4207FCAF.3010808@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:41:35 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2005 23:41:35.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F6AEC40:01C50D6E] Subject: Catch - 22 ... (or is it '2003') X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:41:40 -0000 I'm not one given to posting questions at whichisworse.com (it does seem like the 'eric' there is very bored though --- I guess the conspiracy isn't meeting its goals on time?) I picked up an account that is a couple small offices with one server that runs a relatively recent, expensive piece of Some Business Software. And, after fighting with this server for several hours, I think I'd rather have a badly adminned 'Nix box than a badly adminned server from that other outfit. Thoughts? :-) Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 01:19:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3EF16A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:19:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94C4743D2D for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:19:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.163 with login) by smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2005 01:19:23 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:19:21 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <4207FCAF.3010808@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4207FCAF.3010808@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200502071719.22320.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Subject: Re: Catch - 22 ... (or is it '2003') X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 01:19:37 -0000 On Monday 07 February 2005 03:41 pm, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > I'm not one given to posting questions at whichisworse.com > (it does seem like the 'eric' there is very bored though --- I > guess the conspiracy isn't meeting its goals on time?) > > I picked up an account that is a couple small offices with one > server that runs a relatively recent, expensive piece of Some > Business Software. > > And, after fighting with this server for several hours, I think > I'd rather have a badly adminned 'Nix box than a badly adminned > server from that other outfit. > > Thoughts? > > :-) I think if you have the choice you are in a good position. If you are asking which is better, then I think you have the answer ;) Personally, I work on mostly Win machines for clients, but that's because I am doing home computer repair at the moment, and almost everyone who needs this sort of help runs Windows. Most aren't in the mood to switch, either, which is alright with me. It's their money, and I secure their boxes so they don't have to call me about viruses or malware all the time, although sometimes it still happens. If I had the choice, from a technical perspective, I'd much rather be working with FreeBSD or almost any *nix, but this isn't the way this market works at the moment. However, I like working with home users, believe it or not (many people are just intimidated by computers and need some guidance), and I have a feeling this market is going to be like this for some time. So, I'm stuck with what my clients want to run, but they are generally easier people to deal with and much nicer than corporate bosses. It's a trade-off I'm willing to make for now, but if I were in your position, I'd switch the server or possibly drop the account if the client didn't want to switch, depending on how many other clients I had, finances, etc. A badly adminned *nix box is simpler for me to deal with than a badly adminned Win box. YMMV. - jt From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 18:16:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A588716A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:16:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF55B43D31 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:16:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CyZuK-0006le-00 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:16:16 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0510.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.49.254])j18IGD5F011208 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:16:15 GMT Received: (qmail 8524 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Feb 2005 18:15:33 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:15:32 +0000 To: FreeBSD UK Message-ID: <20050208181532.GA8508@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD UK , FreeBSD chat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: FreeBSD chat Subject: Spyware on FreeBSD!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:16:20 -0000 Bad news, looks like my machine has been infected with some Spyware. I noticed that on surfing to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ or anything under that domain, I was getting some outgoing activity and Firefox was after a URL (as shown by the status bar) somewhere under the domain: http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/ A quick Google on 2o7.net confirmed my worst fears: spyware! and a 2o7.net cookie planted on my machine. I cached some pages in my proxy : http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D Looks like some sort of perl script which returns a 2x2 gif, whilst harvesting your browsing habits (and screen & windowsize - by calling Javascript functions in Firefox?) I wonder if they use different sub-domains to collect stats on different sites. This particular variant seems to be only activated by a visit to BBC news. I had a grovel in the source of the BBC news homepage but found no reference to 2o7.net (For a minute I thought the BBC had turned evil on me!) I'm going to do a little bit more investigation on it - I tried removal by obliterating my Firefox profile but no joy. The only thing I saved was my bookmarks file, which looks sound. Spyware on a unix machine? Tell me it's not so! :( BTW: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE firefox-1.0.r1,1 I know the latter has some vulnerabilities and I'll update it in due course (and the OS). I think I'm going to build Links/Lynx with SSL and use that for my banking from now on (if I can). Anybody aware of other reports of spyware infecting Unix machines? Anyway, I'm gutted. I feel like I've been violated and humiliated. In short, I feel like a Windows user does everyday!! The truth: I feel a bit pissed off but I urge people to take no action against 2o7.net like DOS or cracking their webserver and trashing it.....I'll do that myself ;) -- Frank print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 18:41:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82E416A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:41:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6648743D45 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:41:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko@freebsd.org) Received: from movens.plus.com ([80.229.231.20] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CyaIk-0003eO-T0; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:41:31 +0000 Message-ID: <42090774.2070805@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:39:48 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20050113) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute References: <20050208181532.GA8508@peach.veggie.com> In-Reply-To: <20050208181532.GA8508@peach.veggie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0506-0, 08/02/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean cc: FreeBSD UK cc: FreeBSD chat Subject: Re: Spyware on FreeBSD!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:41:38 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > Bad news, looks like my machine has been infected with some Spyware. > > I noticed that on surfing to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ or anything under > that domain, I was getting some outgoing activity and Firefox was > after a URL (as shown by the status bar) somewhere under the domain: > > http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/ > > A quick Google on 2o7.net confirmed my worst fears: spyware! > > and a 2o7.net cookie planted on my machine. > > I cached some pages in my proxy : > > http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D > > http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D > > Looks like some sort of perl script which returns a 2x2 gif, whilst > harvesting your browsing habits (and screen & windowsize - by calling > Javascript functions in Firefox?) > % whois 2o7.net [....] Registrant: Omniture, Inc. (2O41-DOM) 550 East Timpanogos Cir Building G Orem, UT 84097 US From BBC's Privacy and Cookies Policy (there's a link at the bottom of the main page) http://www.bbc.co.uk/privacy/ 2. Visitor Information [....] "The BBC also uses a company called Omniture to track and analyse non-personally identifiable usage and statistical information about volume of visitors to the BBC News pages on bbc.co.uk in order to measure the effectiveness of the BBC News web pages and improve services to users. Please note that this is not personal information, only general summaries of the activities of visitors to bbc.co.uk. If you wish to reject the Omniture cookies, you can use the process set out below in point 7. Further information regarding Omniture's privacy statement can be found at http://www.omniture.com/policy.html#cookies." Blocking the cookies does not stop the site working. Regards, Mark --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0506-0, 08/02/2005 Tested on: 08/02/2005 18:39:49 avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 18:47:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629C816A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:47:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (duey.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F205643D1F for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:47:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CB01FE1D; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:47:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 60680-03-7; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:47:12 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 57E611FE20; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:47:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555931A907; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:47:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:47:12 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Frank Shute In-Reply-To: <20050208181532.GA8508@peach.veggie.com> Message-ID: <20050208124210.Y59681@duey.wolves.k12.mo.us> References: <20050208181532.GA8508@peach.veggie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wolves.k12.mo.us cc: FreeBSD UK cc: FreeBSD chat Subject: Re: Spyware on FreeBSD!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:47:15 -0000 On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Frank Shute wrote: > > Bad news, looks like my machine has been infected with some Spyware. > > I noticed that on surfing to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ or anything > under that domain, I was getting some outgoing activity and Firefox > was after a URL (as shown by the status bar) somewhere under the > domain: > > http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/ > > A quick Google on 2o7.net confirmed my worst fears: spyware! Uh, no. 2o7.net is owned by Omniture, a web analytics company, and is used explicitly by the sites you are visiting. Nothing to do with 2o7.net is actually installed on your computer. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon(at)wolves.k12.mo.us FreeBSD: The fastest, most open, and most stable OS on the planet - Available for IA32, IA64, AMD64, PC98, Alpha, and UltraSPARC architectures - PowerPC, ARM, MIPS, and S/390 under development - http://www.freebsd.org Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 20:16:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02F316A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:15:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5709E43D2D for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:15:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CybmA-0003Ix-00 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:15:58 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0050.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.50])j18KFs1x017337 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:15:57 GMT Received: (qmail 9530 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Feb 2005 20:13:59 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:13:59 +0000 To: Mark Ovens Message-ID: <20050208201359.GA9104@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Ovens , FreeBSD chat , FreeBSD UK References: <20050208181532.GA8508@peach.veggie.com> <42090774.2070805@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42090774.2070805@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: FreeBSD chat cc: FreeBSD UK Subject: Re: Spyware on FreeBSD!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:16:00 -0000 On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 06:39:48PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > Frank Shute wrote: > >Bad news, looks like my machine has been infected with some Spyware. > > > >I noticed that on surfing to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ or anything under > >that domain, I was getting some outgoing activity and Firefox was > >after a URL (as shown by the status bar) somewhere under the domain: > > > >http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/ > > > >A quick Google on 2o7.net confirmed my worst fears: spyware! > > > >and a 2o7.net cookie planted on my machine. > > > >I cached some pages in my proxy : > > > >http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D > > > >http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D > > > >Looks like some sort of perl script which returns a 2x2 gif, whilst > >harvesting your browsing habits (and screen & windowsize - by calling > >Javascript functions in Firefox?) > > > > % whois 2o7.net > > [....] > > Registrant: > Omniture, Inc. (2O41-DOM) > 550 East Timpanogos Cir > Building G > Orem, UT 84097 > US > > From BBC's Privacy and Cookies Policy (there's a link at the bottom of > the main page) http://www.bbc.co.uk/privacy/ > > 2. Visitor Information > > [....] > > "The BBC also uses a company called Omniture to track and analyse > non-personally identifiable usage and statistical information about > volume of visitors to the BBC News pages on bbc.co.uk in order to > measure the effectiveness of the BBC News web pages and improve services > to users. Please note that this is not personal information, only > general summaries of the activities of visitors to bbc.co.uk. If you > wish to reject the Omniture cookies, you can use the process set out > below in point 7. Further information regarding Omniture's privacy > statement can be found at http://www.omniture.com/policy.html#cookies." > > Blocking the cookies does not stop the site working. Cheers Mark. I looked at that page too, skim read it and missed it. It was only in the last few days that I'd noticed the behaviour I described. It's probably been like that for months but I was too drunk to notice it or something :) Huge relief. I thought I'd installed a nefarious XPI - if such things exist. Apologies to all for any alarm caused! I think I'm a bit paranoid ATM due to some unpleasant personal circumstances. -- Frank print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 9 21:57:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B2016A4CE for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:57:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from petitiononline.com (petitiononline.com [204.200.197.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB0E43D2D for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:56:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eames@petitiononline.com) Received: (from eames@localhost) by petitiononline.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) id j19LuxPX019346; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:56:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:56:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> From: petitions@petitiononline.com (PetitionOnline) To: enrique salazar Organization: Artifice MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: konfoo@markie.biz List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:57:00 -0000 Dear enrique salazar, This email message is sent to you from PetitionOnline.com to confirm your signature as "enrique salazar" on the online petition: "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot" hosted on the web by our free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/fbsdmsc1/ Your signature on the petition is already complete, and there is no need to reply to this message. 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PetitionOnline.com PO Box 1588 Eugene, OR 97440 Thank you! + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 9 22:28:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6EA16A4CE for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:28:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063F43D2F for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:28:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 913C2512FC; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:28:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:28:08 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: konfoo@markie.biz Message-ID: <20050209222808.GA29670@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: enrique salazar Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: chat@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:28:09 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:56:59PM -0800, PetitionOnline wrote: > Dear enrique salazar, >=20 > This email message is sent to you from PetitionOnline.com to confirm your= signature as "enrique salazar" on the online petition: >=20 > "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot" Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo !=3D mascot. Kris --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCCo54Wry0BWjoQKURAmTrAJ4hvUX42nldiMZGj1gXY05KgpASIgCg7DgY fpmoNfktZYCWYam07E57ihw= =K63p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 01:51:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67C116A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:51:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC5D43D3F for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:51:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cz3Ud-00006G-00 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:51:43 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0495.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.49.239])j1A1pfnw000407 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:51:42 GMT Received: (qmail 1684 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Feb 2005 01:51:06 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:51:06 +0000 To: chat@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> References: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> <20050209222808.GA29670@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050209222808.GA29670@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:51:45 -0000 On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:28:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:56:59PM -0800, PetitionOnline wrote: > > Dear enrique salazar, > > > > This email message is sent to you from PetitionOnline.com to confirm your signature as "enrique salazar" on the online petition: > > > > "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot" > > Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo != mascot. > > Kris Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work into the new logo, so it's a bit late to complain now!: http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;) -- Frank print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 02:00:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F2E16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:00:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F7743D31 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:00:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko@freebsd.org) Received: from movens.plus.com ([80.229.231.20] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Cz3ct-000FXC-9E; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:00:15 +0000 Message-ID: <420ABFCC.2060308@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:58:36 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20050209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute References: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> <20050209222808.GA29670@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> In-Reply-To: <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0506-0, 08/02/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:00:17 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:28:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:56:59PM -0800, PetitionOnline wrote: >> > Dear enrique salazar, >> > >> > This email message is sent to you from PetitionOnline.com to confirm your signature as "enrique salazar" on the online petition: >> > >> > "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot" >> >> Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo != mascot. >> >> Kris > > Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work > into the new logo, so it's a bit late to complain now!: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png > > The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;) > ROFLMAO :-) Mark --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0506-0, 08/02/2005 Tested on: 10/02/2005 01:58:38 avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 02:44:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F35916A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:44:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dtcimfe2.celcom.net.my (dtcimfe2.celcom.net.my [203.82.64.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D87443D2D for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:44:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alsemo@celcom.net.my) Received: from [218.111.179.11] by dtcimfe2.celcom.net.my with ESMTP id <20050210023627.RVWM1517.dtcimfe2@[218.111.179.11]>; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:36:27 +0800 Message-ID: <420AC9B6.9010604@celcom.net.my> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:40:54 +0800 From: Ahmad Zulkarnain User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute , freebsd-chat References: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> <20050209222808.GA29670@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> In-Reply-To: <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:44:23 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: >On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:28:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >>On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:56:59PM -0800, PetitionOnline wrote: >> >> >>>Dear enrique salazar, >>> >>>This email message is sent to you from PetitionOnline.com to confirm your signature as "enrique salazar" on the online petition: >>> >>> "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot" >>> >>> >>Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo != mascot. >> >>Kris >> >> > >Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work >into the new logo, so it's a bit late to complain now!: > >http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png > >The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;) > > > > Seriously, by lookin at the candidate, I have this feelin that our Beastie will be replaced. Joke. :D. I like the tree tho. LOL. -- Karl http://www.alsemo.isdangerous.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 03:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B95B16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:21:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4D8543D2D for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:21:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.163 with login) by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2005 03:21:45 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:21:44 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> <420AC9B6.9010604@celcom.net.my> In-Reply-To: <420AC9B6.9010604@celcom.net.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200502091921.44853.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Ahmad Zulkarnain cc: Frank Shute Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:21:46 -0000 On Wednesday 09 February 2005 06:40 pm, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote: > Frank Shute wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:28:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > >Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work > >into the new logo, so it's a bit late to complain now!: > > > >http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png > > > >The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;) > > Seriously, by lookin at the candidate, I have this feelin that our > Beastie will be replaced. Joke. :D. I like the tree tho. LOL. I lik it cuz everones happy oi thaught it wuz a plain but its was a buird.. hahaa!!1! Onooo... .... . :( http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie2.png http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie3.png - jt From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 12:21:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5C816A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:21:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.156.12.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883C143D55 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAAF546B0A; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:21:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:20:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Joshua Tinnin In-Reply-To: <200502091921.44853.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Ahmad Zulkarnain cc: Frank Shute cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:21:59 -0000 On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > I lik it cuz everones happy oi thaught it wuz a plain but its was a > buird.. hahaa!!1! > > Onooo... .... . :( > > http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie2.png > > http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie3.png CafePress is definitely called for. Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 18:03:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F4B16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:03:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from knight.ixsystems.net (afg.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46B143D41 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:03:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matto@knight.ixsystems.net) Received: from knight.ixsystems.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knight.ixsystems.net (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j1AHdiU5041099; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:39:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matto@knight.ixsystems.net) Received: (from matto@localhost) by knight.ixsystems.net (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id j1AHdhDm041098; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:39:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matto) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:39:43 -0800 From: Matt Olander To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20050210093943.A40665@knight.ixsystems.net> References: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> <420AC9B6.9010604@celcom.net.my> <200502091921.44853.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200502091921.44853.krinklyfig@spymac.com>; from krinklyfig@spymac.com on Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 07:21:44PM -0800 cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:03:39 -0000 On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 07:21:44PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > I lik it cuz everones happy oi thaught it wuz a plain but its was a > buird.. hahaa!!1! > > Onooo... .... . :( > > http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie2.png > > http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie3.png omfg!!!! LMFAO!!!!!111one wtb j00s to do our next ad campaign :-) -matty -- Matt Olander (408)943-4100 Phone (408)943-4101 Fax www.offmyserver.com -- "Those who don't read have no advantage over those who can't" -Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 11:15:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED6F16A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:15:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65F243D2F for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:15:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by dire.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1CzYlm-0002LF-OO for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:15:33 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1CzYlm-0007H3-0A; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:15:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:15:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Level: / Subject: Logo flamefest: solution? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:15:34 -0000 -questions appears to be having a severe case of NIH. I note that rather than reuse the efforts that netbsd (who wound up producing gigabytes* of diatribe on the subject of what constitutes a logo / mascot etc, of the highest quality I might add) went to, people seem to be rolling their own once again. I rather suspect that this will end up producing yet another incompatibility between netbsd and freebsd. Can we not just import Net's flamefest instead? It was well-structured, well-thought out, and - most importantly - it was completed some time ago. Cheers, jan * this may or may not be accurate depending on the font size used to read the email. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 11:42:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCD716A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:42:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A47843D4C for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:41:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neeraj@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 10714 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2005 11:41:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.91) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Feb 2005 11:41:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 92352 invoked by uid 1009); 11 Feb 2005 11:41:49 -0000 Received: from neeraj@wlink.com.np by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.20 ( Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.78):. Processed in 0.006446 secs); 11 Feb 2005 11:41:49 -0000 Received: from smtp3.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.78) by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 11 Feb 2005 11:41:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 8231 invoked by uid 514); 11 Feb 2005 11:41:50 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.170] (HELO [202.79.36.170]) by smtp3.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 11 Feb 2005 11:41:49 -0000 (Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:26:49 +0545) From: neeraj shrestha To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1108122195.29387.1.camel@neeraj> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:28:15 +0545 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp3.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; -4.9 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 Subject: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:42:01 -0000 i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? if there is available let me know!! From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 16:54:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE6616A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:54:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pilchuck.reedmedia.net (pilchuck.reedmedia.net [209.166.74.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3968443D2D for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:54:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from reed by pilchuck.reedmedia.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cze37-0008Mn-00; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:53:45 -0800 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:53:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: neeraj shrestha In-Reply-To: <1108122195.29387.1.camel@neeraj> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:54:21 -0000 On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? > if there is available let me know!! procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for reporting about and modifying the state of the system, including memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc. The commands include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed; it is available in the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code from Michael K. Johnson. I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you need? If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat packages. It is included. Jeremy C. Reed BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 17:35:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6002116A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:35:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pilchuck.reedmedia.net (pilchuck.reedmedia.net [209.166.74.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0924B43D2F for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:35:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from reed by pilchuck.reedmedia.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1Czegt-0008Qy-00; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:34:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:34:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: Brian Sobolak In-Reply-To: <56031.63.73.213.5.1108141279.squirrel@webmail.psys.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: neeraj shrestha cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:35:22 -0000 On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Brian Sobolak wrote: > I have installed Linux bin compatibility, and pstree doesn't work. Is it > earth-shattering? No. Would this fix it? pstree is not included with procps. pstree is a FreeBSD ports/sysutils/pstree package. Not really Linux related. There is also pstree from psmisc package which is also in the FreeBSD ports collection (and it is not Linux specific) in the sysutils category. (Two packages conflict.) I don't know why your pstree doesn't work. If you are using psmisc, I assume you need a /proc filesystem mounted. Do that or try the other package. If you want to use procps' "pstree", then use "ps --forest". Jeremy C. Reed BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 00:44:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE0C16A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:44:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FD143D31 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jstn@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jstn@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.2]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1C0hoYS000802; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:43:50 GMT Received: (from jstn@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) id j1C0hnME021082; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:43:49 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Pessa Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:43:49 -0500 To: Frank Shute Message-ID: <20050212004349.GA7816@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> <20050209222808.GA29670@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:44:57 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Feb 10 01:51AM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:28:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:56:59PM -0800, PetitionOnline wrote: > > > Dear enrique salazar, > > >=20 > > > This email message is sent to you from PetitionOnline.com to confirm = your signature as "enrique salazar" on the online petition: > > >=20 > > > "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot" > >=20 > > Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo !=3D mascot. > >=20 > > Kris >=20 > Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work > into the new logo, so it's a bit late to complain now!: >=20 > http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png >=20 > The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;) I believe the artist is also working on a *new* gnome ui: http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/screenshots/gnome_ss_20050211.png I am looking forward to these new changes! Although honestly I suspect *someone* has too much time on their hands! ;) >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Frank=20 >=20 >=20 > print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ /= /g' >=20 > --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- = =20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =20 - jstn __ __ __ =20 |__|.--.--.-----.| |_|__|.-----. _?_ | || | |__ --|| _| || | (o-0)=09 | ||_____|_____||____|__||__|__| -ooO--(_)--Ooo- |___| "talk is cheap because jstn.sdf1.org =20 supply exceeds demand." --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFCDVFFPpr5wVVwYfURAsY8AKCHZKH4qSZy1YB8EBqjoWYWBGAV/ACcDOfL FsHBq8sIIO9RSTwreTJdySE= =fUtQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 00:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A48C16A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:57:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from knight.ixsystems.net (afg.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C469E43D1F for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:57:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matto@knight.ixsystems.net) Received: from knight.ixsystems.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knight.ixsystems.net (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j1C0cndb002653; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matto@knight.ixsystems.net) Received: (from matto@localhost) by knight.ixsystems.net (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id j1C0cneD002652; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matto) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:38:49 -0800 From: Matt Olander To: Justin Pessa Message-ID: <20050211163849.F443@knight.ixsystems.net> References: <200502092156.j19LuxPX019346@petitiononline.com> <20050209222808.GA29670@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050210015106.GA1639@peach.veggie.com> <20050212004349.GA7816@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20050212004349.GA7816@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG>; from jstn@sdf.lonestar.org on Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 07:43:49PM -0500 cc: chat@freebsd.org cc: Frank Shute Subject: Re: Signature Confirmation - Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot - 181 - fbsdmsc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:57:46 -0000 On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 07:43:49PM -0500, Justin Pessa wrote: > I believe the artist is also working on a *new* gnome ui: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/screenshots/gnome_ss_20050211.png > > I am looking forward to these new changes! > > Although honestly I suspect *someone* has too much time on their hands! omg! he beat me to the transparent applet with transparent text! :( 2funny. please start a comic strip. -matty > > ;) > > > > > > > -- > > > > Frank > > > > > > print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' > > > > --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > - jstn > __ __ __ > |__|.--.--.-----.| |_|__|.-----. _?_ > | || | |__ --|| _| || | (o-0) > | ||_____|_____||____|__||__|__| -ooO--(_)--Ooo- > |___| "talk is cheap because jstn.sdf1.org > supply exceeds demand." -- Matt Olander (408)943-4100 Phone (408)943-4101 Fax www.offmyserver.com -- "Those who don't read have no advantage over those who can't" -Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 04:53:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA29916A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:53:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6939A43D49 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neeraj@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 76620 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2005 04:53:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.74) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 04:53:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 46079 invoked by uid 1008); 12 Feb 2005 04:53:44 -0000 Received: from neeraj@wlink.com.np by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.70. Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.76):. Processed in 0.020153 secs); 12 Feb 2005 04:53:44 -0000 Received: from smtp1.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.76) by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 04:53:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 4562 invoked by uid 508); 12 Feb 2005 04:53:44 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.170] (HELO [202.79.36.170]) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 04:53:33 -0000 (Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:38:33 +0545) From: neeraj shrestha To: "Jeremy C. Reed" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1108184103.31607.2.camel@neeraj> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:40:03 +0545 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; -4.9 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:53:49 -0000 i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!! is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities? On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? > > if there is available let me know!! > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package description > is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for reporting about > and modifying the state of the system, including memory, processes, > sending signals to processes, etc. The commands include free, oldps, > pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. > (kill is not installed; it is available in the sysutils/util-linux > package.) This version of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on > original code from Michael K. Johnson. > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because this > uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to port to and > *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you need? > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat packages. It > is included. > > Jeremy C. Reed > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 05:01:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C101116A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:01:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D01A43D49 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1C51Wpd052426; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:31:32 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:31:22 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <1108184103.31607.2.camel@neeraj> In-Reply-To: <1108184103.31607.2.camel@neeraj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1693013.BQW3MaS1oD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200502121531.30652.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -4.4 () IN_REP_TO,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: neeraj shrestha Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:01:47 -0000 --nextPart1693013.BQW3MaS1oD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote: > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!! > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities? Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs.. You can use top to find out how much RAM is free. > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? > > > if there is available let me know!! > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package description > > is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for reporting about > > and modifying the state of the system, including memory, processes, > > sending signals to processes, etc. The commands include free, oldps, > > pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. > > (kill is not installed; it is available in the sysutils/util-linux > > package.) This version of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based > > on original code from Michael K. Johnson. > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM=3D Linux-*-* because this > > uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to port to and > > *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you > > need? > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat packages. = It > > is included. > > > > Jeremy C. Reed > > > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1693013.BQW3MaS1oD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCDY2q5ZPcIHs/zowRAhlwAJ4h0+HAOysoAjGhF/DER95kTn9EVQCfRNy2 d3V5KrzA7U/1hnSWhVTDsns= =Vs+j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1693013.BQW3MaS1oD-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 05:30:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2D816A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:30:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36B6743D48 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:30:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neeraj@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 79701 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2005 05:30:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.91) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 05:30:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 52509 invoked by uid 1009); 12 Feb 2005 05:30:47 -0000 Received: from neeraj@wlink.com.np by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.20 ( Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.78):. Processed in 0.121842 secs); 12 Feb 2005 05:30:47 -0000 Received: from smtp3.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.78) by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 05:30:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 15377 invoked by uid 514); 12 Feb 2005 05:30:48 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.170] (HELO [202.79.36.170]) by smtp3.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 05:30:48 -0000 (Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:15:48 +0545) From: neeraj shrestha To: Daniel O'Connor In-Reply-To: <200502121531.30652.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> References: <1108184103.31607.2.camel@neeraj> <200502121531.30652.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1108186338.32115.2.camel@neeraj> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:17:18 +0545 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp3.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; -4.9 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:30:55 -0000 well bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that my system has? On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!! > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities? > > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs.. > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free. > > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? > > > > if there is available let me know!! > > > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package description > > > is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for reporting about > > > and modifying the state of the system, including memory, processes, > > > sending signals to processes, etc. The commands include free, oldps, > > > pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. > > > (kill is not installed; it is available in the sysutils/util-linux > > > package.) This version of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based > > > on original code from Michael K. Johnson. > > > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because this > > > uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to port to and > > > *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. > > > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you > > > need? > > > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat packages. It > > > is included. > > > > > > Jeremy C. Reed > > > > > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links > > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 05:36:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E4F16A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:36:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F417843D41 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:36:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1C5aqSV052683; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:06:52 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: neeraj shrestha Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:06:43 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200502121531.30652.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <1108186338.32115.2.camel@neeraj> In-Reply-To: <1108186338.32115.2.camel@neeraj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1760155.7JrHWE0Qtu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200502121606.50457.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -4.7 () IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:36:57 -0000 --nextPart1760155.7JrHWE0Qtu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote: > bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or > command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that my No need to use so many exclamation marks.. What exactly does the linux watch command do? > system has? Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;) sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine has. > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!! > > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities? > > > > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs.. > > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free. > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? > > > > > if there is available let me know!! > > > > > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package > > > > description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for > > > > reporting about and modifying the state of the system, including > > > > memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc. The commands > > > > include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, > > > > top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed; it is available in > > > > the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version of procps is > > > > maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code from Michael K. > > > > Johnson. > > > > > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM=3D Linux-*-* because > > > > this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to > > > > port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. > > > > > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you > > > > need? > > > > > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat > > > > packages. It is included. > > > > > > > > Jeremy C. Reed > > > > > > > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links > > > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1760155.7JrHWE0Qtu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCDZXy5ZPcIHs/zowRAndHAJ9m8h0JVZhPYz5QvZNFUYnP4uTERwCfdfhW 4Ejw1QI/sdZz46hHwPDm+Cg= =pp1H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1760155.7JrHWE0Qtu-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 06:18:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318D016A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:18:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CA5043D2D for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:18:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neeraj@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 82841 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2005 06:18:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.91) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 06:18:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 2755 invoked by uid 1009); 12 Feb 2005 00:33:22 -0000 Received: from neeraj@wlink.com.np by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.20 ( Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.78):. Processed in 0.463461 secs); 12 Feb 2005 00:33:22 -0000 Received: from smtp3.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.78) by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 00:33:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 23621 invoked by uid 514); 12 Feb 2005 06:02:02 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.170] (HELO [202.79.36.170]) by smtp3.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 06:02:02 -0000 (Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:47:02 +0545) From: neeraj shrestha To: Daniel O'Connor In-Reply-To: <200502121606.50457.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> References: <200502121531.30652.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <1108186338.32115.2.camel@neeraj> <200502121606.50457.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1108188213.32115.9.camel@neeraj> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:48:33 +0545 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp3.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; -4.9 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:18:31 -0000 thanks daniel for your solution. What exactly does the linux watch command do? $ watch -n1 'some command ' will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal. so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage. On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or > > command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that my > > No need to use so many exclamation marks.. > > What exactly does the linux watch command do? > > > system has? > > Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;) > sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine has. > > > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!! > > > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities? > > > > > > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs.. > > > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free. > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? > > > > > > if there is available let me know!! > > > > > > > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package > > > > > description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for > > > > > reporting about and modifying the state of the system, including > > > > > memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc. The commands > > > > > include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, > > > > > top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed; it is available in > > > > > the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version of procps is > > > > > maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code from Michael K. > > > > > Johnson. > > > > > > > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because > > > > > this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to > > > > > port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. > > > > > > > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you > > > > > need? > > > > > > > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat > > > > > packages. It is included. > > > > > > > > > > Jeremy C. Reed > > > > > > > > > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links > > > > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 06:35:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E17E16A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E58343D1F for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:35:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1C6Yvws053167; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:04:58 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: neeraj shrestha Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:04:41 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.92 References: <200502121606.50457.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <1108188213.32115.9.camel@neeraj> In-Reply-To: <1108188213.32115.9.camel@neeraj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3692981.uTAJqTpfur"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200502121704.52637.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -4.4 () IN_REP_TO,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:35:07 -0000 --nextPart3692981.uTAJqTpfur Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:33, neeraj shrestha wrote: > $ watch -n1 'some command ' > will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal. > so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage. Ahh.. You could write a shellscript version of that in short order I'd imagine :) > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or > > > command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that > > > my > > > > No need to use so many exclamation marks.. > > > > What exactly does the linux watch command do? > > > > > system has? > > > > Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;) > > sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine ha= s. > > > > > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!! > > > > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities? > > > > > > > > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs.. > > > > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? > > > > > > > if there is available let me know!! > > > > > > > > > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package > > > > > > description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools > > > > > > for reporting about and modifying the state of the system, > > > > > > including memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc. > > > > > > The commands include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snic= e, > > > > > > sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed; > > > > > > it is available in the sysutils/util-linux package.) This versi= on > > > > > > of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original co= de > > > > > > from Michael K. Johnson. > > > > > > > > > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM=3D Linux-*-* bec= ause > > > > > > this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying = to > > > > > > port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do > > > > > > you need? > > > > > > > > > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat > > > > > > packages. It is included. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremy C. Reed > > > > > > > > > > > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links > > > > > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart3692981.uTAJqTpfur Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCDaOM5ZPcIHs/zowRAnX5AJ4xPi1M8fNaMEqEfDgp4BYBgiDewgCeOwYw ipWmbli4bg2CHCh3etXRwCk= =ZcRh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3692981.uTAJqTpfur-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 06:52:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A4F16A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:52:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FC5643D1F for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:52:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neeraj@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 85626 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2005 06:52:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.91) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 06:52:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16665 invoked by uid 1009); 12 Feb 2005 01:07:02 -0000 Received: from neeraj@wlink.com.np by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.20 ( Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.78):. Processed in 0.012108 secs); 12 Feb 2005 01:07:02 -0000 Received: from smtp3.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.78) by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 01:07:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 6707 invoked by uid 514); 12 Feb 2005 06:52:03 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.170] (HELO [202.79.36.170]) by smtp3.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 12 Feb 2005 06:52:02 -0000 (Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:37:02 +0545) From: neeraj shrestha To: Daniel O'Connor In-Reply-To: <200502121704.52637.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> References: <200502121606.50457.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <1108188213.32115.9.camel@neeraj> <200502121704.52637.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1108191196.2323.1.camel@neeraj> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:38:16 +0545 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp3.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; -4.9 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:52:09 -0000 ok so the conclusion is there is no such utility in bsd. ill write the script for that. any way thanks daniel. On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 12:19, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:33, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > $ watch -n1 'some command ' > > will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal. > > so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage. > > Ahh.. > You could write a shellscript version of that in short order I'd imagine :) > > > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or > > > > command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that > > > > my > > > > > > No need to use so many exclamation marks.. > > > > > > What exactly does the linux watch command do? > > > > > > > system has? > > > > > > Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;) > > > sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine has. > > > > > > > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!! > > > > > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities? > > > > > > > > > > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs.. > > > > > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free. > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: > > > > > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? > > > > > > > > if there is available let me know!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package > > > > > > > description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools > > > > > > > for reporting about and modifying the state of the system, > > > > > > > including memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc. > > > > > > > The commands include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, > > > > > > > sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed; > > > > > > > it is available in the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version > > > > > > > of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code > > > > > > > from Michael K. Johnson. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because > > > > > > > this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to > > > > > > > port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do > > > > > > > you need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat > > > > > > > packages. It is included. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremy C. Reed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links > > > > > > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > > > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > > "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 14:40:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E95A16A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:40:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from loveturtle.net (loveturtle.net [216.89.229.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2175343D54 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:40:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from loveturtle@loveturtle.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by loveturtle.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6351740A6 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:40:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <420E154C.8010103@loveturtle.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:40:12 -0500 From: Dillon User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <200502121606.50457.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <1108188213.32115.9.camel@neeraj> <200502121704.52637.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <1108191196.2323.1.camel@neeraj> In-Reply-To: <1108191196.2323.1.camel@neeraj> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:40:13 -0000 /usr/ports/sysutils/cmdwatch is the equivilent of linux's "watch" neeraj shrestha wrote: >ok so the conclusion is there is no such utility in bsd. >ill write the script for that. > >any way thanks daniel. > >On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 12:19, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > >>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:33, neeraj shrestha wrote: >> >> >>>$ watch -n1 'some command ' >>>will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal. >>>so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage. >>> >>> >>Ahh.. >>You could write a shellscript version of that in short order I'd imagine :) >> >> >> >>>On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or >>>>>command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that >>>>>my >>>>> >>>>> >>>>No need to use so many exclamation marks.. >>>> >>>>What exactly does the linux watch command do? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>system has? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;) >>>>sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine has. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!! >>>>>>>is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs.. >>>>>>You can use top to find out how much RAM is free. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd?? >>>>>>>>>if there is available let me know!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package >>>>>>>>description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools >>>>>>>>for reporting about and modifying the state of the system, >>>>>>>>including memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc. >>>>>>>>The commands include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, >>>>>>>>sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed; >>>>>>>>it is available in the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version >>>>>>>>of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code >>>>>>>>from Michael K. Johnson. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because >>>>>>>>this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to >>>>>>>>port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do >>>>>>>>you need? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat >>>>>>>>packages. It is included. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeremy C. Reed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links >>>>>>>> http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat >>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>>>>"freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat >>>>>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>>>"freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 14:46:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA3116A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from plouf.absolight.net (plouf.absolight.net [193.30.224.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2684643D2D for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@mat.cc) Received: from cc-147.int.t-online.fr (interne-05-147.anon.t-online.fr [213.44.125.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by plouf.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3045B7651C7; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:46:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:46:18 +0100 From: Mathieu Arnold To: neeraj shrestha , Daniel O'Connor Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1108188213.32115.9.camel@neeraj> References: <200502121531.30652.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200502121606.50457.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <1108188213.32115.9.camel@neeraj> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procps in bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:46:20 -0000 +-le 12/02/2005 11:48 +0545, neeraj shrestha =E9crivait : | thanks daniel for your solution. |=20 | What exactly does the linux watch command do? |=20 | $ watch -n1 'some command ' | will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal. | so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage. try /usr/ports/misc/display --=20 Mathieu Arnold