From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 21:45:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CAF16A47B for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@dougbarton.us) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx24.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C305443D55 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:45:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@dougbarton.us) Received: (qmail 15941 invoked by uid 399); 18 Sep 2006 21:45:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Sep 2006 21:45:38 -0000 Message-ID: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:45:35 -0700 From: Doug Barton User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060917) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:45:39 -0000 Still poking around the laptop issue, and I'm wondering if anyone has experience (good, bad, ugly) with the thinkpad R series. Specifically I'm looking at the R60 atm. The problem I'm having is to find the right combination of features. I don't really want a wide screen, which rules out the Z series. The T series doesn't have any compatible combinations of fast processors and non-ATI x1nnn cards (which I understand are badly/not supported in X). The X series are nice, but I don't think I could live with the tiny screen, and I really want the faster processor. That leaves the R series, but I don't really recall too many people posting about them, so I can't help wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong here. Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 22:17:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24E816A403 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from ss.eunet.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A9543D6D for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:17:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from localhost.i.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by ss.eunet.cz (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8IMHH4B094477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:17:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) From: Michal Mertl To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:17:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1158617829.1062.4.camel@genius.i.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:17:29 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > Still poking around the laptop issue, and I'm wondering if anyone has > experience (good, bad, ugly) with the thinkpad R series. Specifically > I'm looking at the R60 atm. The problem I'm having is to find the > right combination of features. I don't really want a wide screen, > which rules out the Z series. The T series doesn't have any compatible > combinations of fast processors and non-ATI x1nnn cards (which I > understand are badly/not supported in X). The X series are nice, but I > don't think I could live with the tiny screen, and I really want the > faster processor. > > That leaves the R series, but I don't really recall too many people > posting about them, so I can't help wondering if there is something > fundamentally wrong here. I have been using R51 for with FreeBSD for about 2 years. It works very well (except suspend to RAM consumes power almost as if the machine was running no matter what I do and the optical drive is crap (I have 4th and it doesn't work again!)). I don't think the current models have much in common anymore so it is probably not much relevant. Michal From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 22:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D74D16A403 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ru@rambler-co.ru) Received: from relay0.rambler.ru (relay0.rambler.ru [81.19.66.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A821643D45 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:47:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@rambler-co.ru) Received: from relay0.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay0.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B5E5C9F; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:47:04 +0400 (MSD) Received: from edoofus.park.rambler.ru (unknown [81.19.65.108]) by relay0.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7362B5C60; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:47:04 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from ru@localhost) by edoofus.park.rambler.ru (8.13.8/8.13.8) id k8IMl4Mn020811; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:47:04 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:47:04 +0400 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20060918224704.GB20647@rambler-co.ru> References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: No virus found Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:47:06 -0000 --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:45:35PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Still poking around the laptop issue, and I'm wondering if anyone has > experience (good, bad, ugly) with the thinkpad R series. Specifically > I'm looking at the R60 atm. The problem I'm having is to find the > right combination of features. I don't really want a wide screen, > which rules out the Z series. The T series doesn't have any compatible > combinations of fast processors and non-ATI x1nnn cards (which I > understand are badly/not supported in X). The X series are nice, but I > don't think I could live with the tiny screen, and I really want the > faster processor. >=20 > That leaves the R series, but I don't really recall too many people > posting about them, so I can't help wondering if there is something > fundamentally wrong here. >=20 http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ It has some R series listed. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFDyHoqRfpzJluFF4RAhgrAJ4umVRSfuD7qMOZFF+w7VR8S0if4gCfQbWs ddCzl2UodlgK/uW1LegZkUo= =jbpb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 18 23:40:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5BF16A403 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx24.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 283A043D46 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:40:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 2843 invoked by uid 399); 18 Sep 2006 23:40:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Sep 2006 23:40:23 -0000 Message-ID: <450F2E65.8010608@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:40:21 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060917) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruslan Ermilov References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> <20060918224704.GB20647@rambler-co.ru> In-Reply-To: <20060918224704.GB20647@rambler-co.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:40:25 -0000 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:45:35PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >> Still poking around the laptop issue, and I'm wondering if anyone has >> experience (good, bad, ugly) with the thinkpad R series. Specifically >> I'm looking at the R60 atm. The problem I'm having is to find the >> right combination of features. I don't really want a wide screen, >> which rules out the Z series. The T series doesn't have any compatible >> combinations of fast processors and non-ATI x1nnn cards (which I >> understand are badly/not supported in X). The X series are nice, but I >> don't think I could live with the tiny screen, and I really want the >> faster processor. >> >> That leaves the R series, but I don't really recall too many people >> posting about them, so I can't help wondering if there is something >> fundamentally wrong here. >> > http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ > > It has some R series listed. Yeah, older models though, I was hoping for something more recent. Still, nice to see it's not hopeless. :) Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 19 03:34:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB11D16A403 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@matthoran.com) Received: from kermit.weehours.com (kermit.weehours.com [216.177.3.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919A743D46 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:34:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@matthoran.com) Received: by kermit.weehours.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7FAA11145E; Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:34:29 -0400 From: Matt Horan To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20060919033429.GB58547@kermit.weehours.com> References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:34:30 -0000 On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:45:35PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > That leaves the R series, but I don't really recall too many people > posting about them, so I can't help wondering if there is something > fundamentally wrong here. I looked at the R60 for the same reasons and purchased one a few months ago. The sound driver has been working perfectly for the past few weeks. Take a look at the developments on snd_hda. The driver is being discussed on -multimedia. The default wireless card did not work; it is the Intel 3945A/B/G. I replaced this card with an Atheros card which works great. A patch was recently posted to -multimedia or -mobile to enable AGP support for the chipset. Support for the i945GM has also been added to the latest X.Org port. -- Matt Horan matt@matthoran.com http://matthoran.com/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 19 16:27:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42B516A492 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4788F43D6A for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:27:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by koef.zs64.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k8JGRIHs065196; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:27:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by koef.zs64.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k8JGRIuv065195; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:27:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cracauer) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:27:18 -0400 From: Martin Cracauer To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20060919162718.GA65002@cons.org> References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:27:21 -0000 Doug Barton wrote on Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:45:35PM -0700: > Still poking around the laptop issue, and I'm wondering if anyone has > experience (good, bad, ugly) with the thinkpad R series. I have an R40 under 6-stable. Annoyances include: - keyboard LEDs not controllable from X11 (neither Linux), except one - DRI not in combination with suspend. I use two X11 servers, the one with 3D gets shut down on suspend - suspend-to-disk only with APM not ACPI - no special trackpad features - no DVI out Generally the R40 is very likeable, in particular very quiet, but the keyboard is not as good as a T41. I dropped it from 1.5 meters straight onto a concrete floor and it survived (just the harddrive jerked out of the frame). I doubt that the R40 has much in common with more modern R models, though. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 03:00:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3854D16A49E; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alex.Kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2AA43D4C; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:00:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alex.Kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from RabbitsDen ([70.21.201.244]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0J5V005KNF10YXRA@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:00:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:00:11 -0400 From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" In-reply-to: <450F2E65.8010608@FreeBSD.org> To: Doug Barton Message-id: <1158721211.887.3.camel@RabbitsDen> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> <20060918224704.GB20647@rambler-co.ru> <450F2E65.8010608@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:00:46 -0000 On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 16:40 -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:45:35PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > >> Still poking around the laptop issue, and I'm wondering if anyone has > >> experience (good, bad, ugly) with the thinkpad R series. Specifically > >> I'm looking at the R60 atm. The problem I'm having is to find the > >> right combination of features. I don't really want a wide screen, > >> which rules out the Z series. The T series doesn't have any compatible > >> combinations of fast processors and non-ATI x1nnn cards (which I > >> understand are badly/not supported in X). The X series are nice, but I > >> don't think I could live with the tiny screen, and I really want the > >> faster processor. > >> > >> That leaves the R series, but I don't really recall too many people > >> posting about them, so I can't help wondering if there is something > >> fundamentally wrong here. > >> > > http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ > > > > It has some R series listed. > > Yeah, older models though, I was hoping for something more recent. > Still, nice to see it's not hopeless. :) > > Doug > One useful data point -- as of two weeks ago, if ordering directly from Lenovo, on X60 (and possibly on others), one had an option of choosing "CTO TP WIFI WIRELESS", part #41A4070, which is Atheros wireless card. -- Alexandre Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 06:22:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1809916A5D9 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 06:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lxtodowni@classifiedtoday.com) Received: from classifiedtoday.com (cmo116.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.31.142.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 147F643D99 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 06:21:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lxtodowni@classifiedtoday.com) Received: from 83.31.142.116 by classifiedtoday.com Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:21:21 +0100 From: "alonso Constantia" X-Sender: lxtodowni@classifiedtoday.com To: Message-Id: <3818173691.DTTktMG-82542-9961864@classifiedtoday.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Watch and wait. 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From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 07:54:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FF116A407 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from webmailv3.ispgateway.de (webmailv3.ispgateway.de [80.67.16.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F02543E5B for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from localhost (webmailv3.ispgateway.de [127.0.0.1]) by webmailv3.ispgateway.de (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k8K7rch5013535 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:53:39 +0200 Received: from pc51997.klinik.uni-regensburg.de (pc51997.klinik.uni-regensburg.de [132.199.174.149]) by domainfactory-webmail.de (IMP) with HTTP for <472582@localhost>; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:53:38 +0200 Message-ID: <1158738818.4510f3827f318@www.domainfactory-webmail.de> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:53:38 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.8 X-Originating-IP: 132.199.174.149 Subject: Xorg (i810) freezes randomly when using hardware accel X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:54:13 -0000 Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on a MSI260 subnotebook. It's a Centrino thing using the 915GM chipset. Xorg is running (mostly) alright using the current 6.9.0 ports. However, I suffer from random freezes when running programs that apparently try to use hardware acceleration. I see this e.g. when watching movie clips with Xine. This is not a problem with the clips themselves. They run ok a couple of times, then they randomly freeze X. This happens only if I use the i810 driver. I can run X just as well with the Vesa driver (without hardware acceleration). The frame rates are lower, but X is rock solid. It also never freezes if I use only applications that do not use hardware acceleration. The real bad thing is that after the i810 driver freezes X, I can't access the console anymore. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+backspace sometimes alters the frozen display to a modern-art style random pattern, but the box does not react to further keypresses, and the display never leaves graphics mode. FreeBSD is still running happily underneath as I can log in from a remote box without a hitch. The process list shows that all X-related stuff is gone, except a font server. My two questions: 1) is there anything I can do to prevent the crashes in the first place? 2) if it has to crash anyway, is there a magic incantation (even if I have to log in remotely) to activate the console again? 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Terms of Service Privacy ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2D1C9.23822A80-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 12:55:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA2B16A40F for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gdt@ir.bbn.com) Received: from fnord.ir.bbn.com (fnord.ir.bbn.com [192.1.100.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BA443D80 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:55:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gdt@ir.bbn.com) Received: by fnord.ir.bbn.com (Postfix, from userid 10853) id C72D9529A; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:55:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Troxel To: Doug Barton References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> X-Hashcash: 1:20:060920:dougb@dougbarton.us::3/GfMxGkEe2txFAp:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000349Q X-Hashcash: 1:20:060920:freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org::sbC5l3J0QwHAQZY4:00000000000000000000000000000000000A0V4 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:55:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> (Doug Barton's message of "Mon\, 18 Sep 2006 14\:45\:35 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:55:57 -0000 --=-=-= I have a T60 running NetBSD current. I'm using xfree86 with the vesa driver and it works fine under X, fast enough for me but I don't play video games (back when I was young, we played Zork on ITS....). The one issue is that after starting X the text consoles appear to be a view into a larger screen with too-large fonts. Someone reported that the ATI binary driver from linux can be made to work. (Not freebsd experience, but close and posted in the hope it's helpful.) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFFETpT+vesoDJhHiURAu8qAJwKQyqBCqUy92uYOi8iVjHofQavzACeP1SW lW4o4XjV/fMy6xhxRu+IBQs= =QEGt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 13:05:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F78116A4E7 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAC643D69 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:05:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (srqxab@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8KD5SPv049678 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:05:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k8KD5SMC049677; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:05:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:05:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200609201305.k8KD5SMC049677@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1158738818.4510f3827f318@www.domainfactory-webmail.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-mobile User-Agent: tin/1.8.0-20051224 ("Ronay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg (i810) freezes randomly when using hardware accel X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:05:50 -0000 Markus Hoenicka wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on a MSI260 subnotebook. It's a Centrino thing using the > 915GM chipset. Xorg is running (mostly) alright using the current 6.9.0 ports. I have pretty much the same setup with a Samsung notebook: Centrino, 915GM chipset, FreeBSD RELENG_6 (which is now 6.2-PRERELEASE), Xorg 6.9.0, i810 driver. I have never experienced freezes. So there must be a difference somewhere. Maybe you should also try to upgrade to latest RELENG_6? > The real bad thing is that after the i810 driver freezes X, I can't access the > console anymore. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+backspace sometimes alters the frozen > display to a modern-art style random pattern, but the box does not react to > further keypresses, and the display never leaves graphics mode. FreeBSD is > still running happily underneath as I can log in from a remote box without a > hitch. The process list shows that all X-related stuff is gone, except a font > server. If all X-related processes are gone, can you restart the X server? What happens if you try? Obviously, what seems to happen is that the X server dies in an uncontrolled way (e.g. due to a fatal signal), so it doesn't have a chance to restore text mode. Does it write a core dump? Are there any hints in the corg log file? Maybe you should also try to ask for help on an Xorg mailing list, as the problem might not be FreeBSD-specific. > 1) is there anything I can do to prevent the crashes in the first place? I don't know what's causing the crash, so I don't know how to prevent it. > 2) if it has to crash anyway, is there a magic incantation (even if I have to > log in remotely) to activate the console again? Having to reboot makes me feel > like running Windows. You could try to log in on the text console (blindly) and type "vidcontrol 80x25" to reset the standard text mode. If you log in via ssh, you must redirect stdin so it uses the right text console (you need to be root for this): "vidcontrol 80x25 X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124EE16A407 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA0843D6A for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:06:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (12-216-254-44.client.mchsi.com[12.216.254.44]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20060920130613m9200dotdve>; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:06:13 +0000 Message-ID: <45113CC4.40309@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:06:12 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060919 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markus Hoenicka References: <1158738818.4510f3827f318@www.domainfactory-webmail.de> In-Reply-To: <1158738818.4510f3827f318@www.domainfactory-webmail.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg (i810) freezes randomly when using hardware accel X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:06:21 -0000 Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on a MSI260 subnotebook. It's a Centrino thing using the > 915GM chipset. Xorg is running (mostly) alright using the current 6.9.0 ports. > However, I suffer from random freezes when running programs that apparently try > to use hardware acceleration. I see this e.g. when watching movie clips with > Xine. This is not a problem with the clips themselves. They run ok a couple of > times, then they randomly freeze X. > > This happens only if I use the i810 driver. I can run X just as well with the > Vesa driver (without hardware acceleration). The frame rates are lower, but X > is rock solid. It also never freezes if I use only applications that do not use > hardware acceleration. > > The real bad thing is that after the i810 driver freezes X, I can't access the > console anymore. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+backspace sometimes alters the frozen > display to a modern-art style random pattern, but the box does not react to > further keypresses, and the display never leaves graphics mode. FreeBSD is > still running happily underneath as I can log in from a remote box without a > hitch. The process list shows that all X-related stuff is gone, except a font > server. > > My two questions: > > 1) is there anything I can do to prevent the crashes in the first place? > > 2) if it has to crash anyway, is there a magic incantation (even if I have to > log in remotely) to activate the console again? Having to reboot makes me feel > like running Windows. Interestingly enough I get exactly the same problem with my desktop system with an Nvidia graphics card. The only difference is that when I log on remotely, top shows Xorg running with close to 100% cpu. "killall -9 Xorg" fixes the problem for me, but it is not a satisfactory solution. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 13:35:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD7116A5FE for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl (mx1.unixguru.nl [84.16.238.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5692843F35 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:32:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D56D4516; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:31:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl ([84.16.238.226]) by localhost (vs8616 [84.16.238.226]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15803-08; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:31:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.unixguru.nl (cc1029189-b.emmen1.dr.home.nl [212.120.110.227]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1849428C; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:31:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (sun.unixguru.nl [192.168.10.7]) by mail.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6060C56470; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:31:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:31:52 +0200 From: Richard Arends To: Greg Troxel Message-ID: <20060920133152.GC26493@sun.unixguru.nl> References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixguru.nl Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:35:29 -0000 On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 08:55:47AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: Greg, > I have a T60 running NetBSD current. Hmm, that's interesting. I'm in the market for a new laptop at this moment and i really like the T60. > The one issue is that after starting X the text consoles appear to be a > view into a larger screen with too-large fonts. You mean the normale text screens, thus after closing X? > Someone reported that the ATI binary driver from linux can be made to > work. Hmm, that would be nice. But on my current laptop i'm also using the vesa driver, so that's not a real problem for me. > (Not freebsd experience, but close and posted in the hope it's > helpful.) It is :) Do you have wireless working?? -- Regards, Richard. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 13:40:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8245616A407 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA1943DB3 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:38:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([192.87.44.187]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:38:00 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8KDcG6P004390 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:38:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:38:16 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060920133816.GA4314@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2006 13:38:00.0747 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD8B67B0:01C6DCB9] Subject: WPA && Cisco Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:40:18 -0000 Hi, I'm just sitting in some Wifi area and the data in a working Windows laptop, in the tabs of it, are: SSID: xxxxx Network Authentication: Cisco compatible Data Encryption: CKIP EAP Method: LEAP User: xxxxx Password: xxxxx Is this somehow accessible via a correct configured wpa_supplicant.conf and wpa_supplicant in FreeBSD 6.0-REL? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 13:50:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F6116A415 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E4443D4C for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:50:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 11972 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2006 23:50:26 +1000 Received: from 203-217-44-23.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.44.23) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 20 Sep 2006 23:50:26 +1000 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:50:22 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Greg Troxel Message-ID: <20060920235022.110239cb@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:50:28 -0000 On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:55:47 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > Someone reported that the ATI binary driver from linux can be made to > work. really?! wow.. where where where :) _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "We must openly accept all ideologies and systems as means of solving humanity's problems. One country, one nation, one ideology, one system is not sufficient." Dalai Lama. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 15:41:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D7F16A403 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.67.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6325543D94 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:41:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars@0x20.net) Received: from maggie.bsd-geek.de (dslb-088-076-220-081.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.76.220.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429BC3539F; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:41:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maggie.bsd-geek.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maggie.bsd-geek.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k8KFfBY6005848; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:41:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@maggie.bsd-geek.de) Received: (from lars@localhost) by maggie.bsd-geek.de (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id k8KFfBxg005847; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:41:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:41:10 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20060920154110.GA5835@maggie.bsd-geek.de> References: <20060920133816.GA4314@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060920133816.GA4314@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WPA && Cisco Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:41:15 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 03:38:16PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I'm just sitting in some Wifi area and the data in a working > Windows laptop, in the tabs of it, are: >=20 > SSID: xxxxx > Network Authentication: Cisco compatible > Data Encryption: CKIP > EAP Method: LEAP > User: xxxxx > Password: xxxxx >=20 > Is this somehow accessible via a correct configured wpa_supplicant.conf > and wpa_supplicant in FreeBSD 6.0-REL? >=20 Hi Matthias, this should work: network=3D{ ssid=3D"xxxxx" proto=3DWPA key_mgmt=3DWPA-EAP auth_alg=3DLEAP identity=3D"xxxxx" password=3D"xxxxx" } Lars --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFEWEWKc512sD3afgRApUVAJ98WZtCfCfnAfvZnr8l0flgjg8kcACglePP BYy6v+kKHMCS2uCHYe+7yHw= =pCYp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 15:51:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A6E16A403 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F7B43D66 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15137; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:47:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from ip-80-226-142-75.vodafone-net.de(80.226.142.75) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma015127; Wed, 20 Sep 06 17:47:52 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8KFpJHb001488; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:51:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:51:17 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Lars Engels Message-ID: <20060920155117.GA1455@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20060920133816.GA4314@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20060920154110.GA5835@maggie.bsd-geek.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060920154110.GA5835@maggie.bsd-geek.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WPA && Cisco Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:51:39 -0000 El da Wednesday, September 20, 2006 a las 05:41:10PM +0200, Lars Engels escribi: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 03:38:16PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm just sitting in some Wifi area and the data in a working > > Windows laptop, in the tabs of it, are: > > > > SSID: xxxxx > > Network Authentication: Cisco compatible > > Data Encryption: CKIP > > EAP Method: LEAP > > User: xxxxx > > Password: xxxxx > > > > Is this somehow accessible via a correct configured wpa_supplicant.conf > > and wpa_supplicant in FreeBSD 6.0-REL? > > > > Hi Matthias, > > this should work: > > network={ > ssid="xxxxx" > proto=WPA > key_mgmt=WPA-EAP > auth_alg=LEAP > identity="xxxxx" > password="xxxxx" > } Hi, This was exactly what I guessed as wpa_supplicant.conf (I only had in addition 'mode=0' which is default, I think). But it says about the AP: 3: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx ssid='' wpa_ie_len=0 rsn_ie_len=0 skip - no WPA/RSN IE I know that it is this AP because it is the right MAC addr. Any idea? I'm unsure about that 'Data Encryption: CKIP'... Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 20 20:28:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397D916A407 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from webmailv3.ispgateway.de (webmailv3.ispgateway.de [80.67.16.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CDE43DC1 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:26:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from localhost (webmailv3.ispgateway.de [127.0.0.1]) by webmailv3.ispgateway.de (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k8KKQIh5028271; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:26:18 +0200 Received: from rrzras2-73.rz.uni-regensburg.de (rrzras2-73.rz.uni-regensburg.de [132.199.209.73]) by domainfactory-webmail.de (IMP) with HTTP for <472582@localhost>; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:26:18 +0200 Message-ID: <1158783978.4511a3ea1f22f@www.domainfactory-webmail.de> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:26:18 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: Oliver Fromme References: <200609201305.k8KD5SMC049677@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200609201305.k8KD5SMC049677@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.8 X-Originating-IP: 132.199.209.73 Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xorg (i810) freezes randomly when using hardware accel X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:28:14 -0000 Oliver Fromme was heard to say: > I have pretty much the same setup with a Samsung notebook: > Centrino, 915GM chipset, FreeBSD RELENG_6 (which is now > 6.2-PRERELEASE), Xorg 6.9.0, i810 driver. I have never > experienced freezes. > Is there anything interesting in your Xorg setup? My relevant xorg.conf sections look like this: Section "Device" Identifier "truei810" Driver "i810" VideoRam 131072 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "truei810" Monitor "glare" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection > If all X-related processes are gone, can you restart the X > server? What happens if you try? > No. It doesn't show up in the process list, so I assume it exits with an error right away. > Obviously, what seems to happen is that the X server dies > in an uncontrolled way (e.g. due to a fatal signal), so it > doesn't have a chance to restore text mode. Does it write > a core dump? Are there any hints in the corg log file? > There is no core file. However, Xorg.0.log shows the following: Error in I830WaitLpRing(), now is 551900, start is 549899 pgetbl_ctl: 0x3ffc0001 pgetbl_err: 0x0 ipeir: 0 iphdr: 1810000 LP ring tail: fe08 head: fd64 len: 1f801 start 0 eir: 0 esr: 0 emr: ffff instdone: ffc0 instpm: 0 memmode: 108 instps: f0000 hwstam: ffff ier: 0 imr: ffff iir: 0 space: 130900 wanted 131064 FatalError re-entered, aborting lockup Does that "space" line indicate that I'm running out of shared memory? I removed the VideoRam setting in xorg.conf but this didn't help either. > Maybe you should also try to ask for help on an Xorg > mailing list, as the problem might not be FreeBSD-specific. > True. I tried to reproduce the problem using a Linux live CD, but I couldn't get one that plays mpg or wmv files. This would have told me whether it is specific to FreeBSD. > You could try to log in on the text console (blindly) and > type "vidcontrol 80x25" to reset the standard text mode. > If you log in via ssh, you must redirect stdin so it uses > the right text console (you need to be root for this): > "vidcontrol 80x25 I can indeed log in blindly. When running "who" from a remote login the additional logins show up. Unfortunately vidcontrol doesn't help. All that ever happened was that the screen went from all white to all black. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka@cats.de (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 00:06:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66BC16A403 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.bittau@cs.ucl.ac.uk) Received: from darkircop.org (tapir.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.66.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3673E43D45 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:06:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from a.bittau@cs.ucl.ac.uk) Received: by darkircop.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id 9D3AF861CE4; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 01:06:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 01:06:28 +0100 From: Andrea Bittau To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060921000628.GA1832@shorty.sorbonet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Echelon: Bush Bomb War KGB Subject: hack for getting suspend/resume to half work on an IBM Thinkpad x60s [SMP] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:06:44 -0000 This is a half working hack for getting suspend/resume to "work" on an IBM Thinkpad x60s [Intel Duo]. It has two limitations: 1) All interrupts are routed to the BSP. 2) Upon resume, the AP sits in the idle loop. You can try to make it escape, but it doesn't quite work yet. I think these issues are both related and it has to do with the way how i restore the second CPU. I think the page tables are messed up, and perhaps even other state. Hopefully someone can give me some insight on how to fix this. [Question: from init_secondary() how do I get back to where I was [the IPI_STOP handler]? =D Do I need to do something like acpi_wakeup.c? Isn't there an easier way?] Also, if people seem interested, I can try and write a proper patch. In order to get suspend/resume to work, there are three main hurdles to jump: 1) SATA suspend/resume seems broken. Change the SATA option in the BIOS to "compatible". 2) apic. FreeBSD reconfigures the io apic upon resume, but not the local apic. The patch attached to this mail fixes this. Indeed, it almost does so in the "proper" way and not so much of a hack =D. 3) SMP. The second core needs to be killed and woken up as appropriate. The way I do this is quite lame. - Force the second core in the idle loop by setting machdep.hlt_cpus=2. - make system look like UP instead of SMP [i.e. deactivate SMP] & suspend. - resume, wake up other core [which will run idle process] and activate SMP. To get this to work in practice: 0) unload all drivers. 1) Apply the patch against today's freebsd-current. 2) My /etc/rc.suspend looks like this: #!/bin/sh sync sync sysctl machdep.hlt_cpus=2 sleep 2 3) zzz 4) if you want to crash: sysctl machdep.hlt_cpus=0 have fun --- Index: dev/acpica/acpi.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi.c,v retrieving revision 1.228 diff -u -p -r1.228 acpi.c --- dev/acpica/acpi.c 11 Sep 2006 19:32:54 -0000 1.228 +++ dev/acpica/acpi.c 20 Sep 2006 23:19:35 -0000 @@ -47,6 +47,7 @@ __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/acpica/a #include #include #include +#include #include #include @@ -2111,6 +2112,30 @@ enum acpi_sleep_state { ACPI_SS_SLEPT, }; +static void sorbo_stop_cpus(void); +static void sorbo_stop_cpus(void) +{ + printf("stopping cpus\n"); + + /* make sure BSP is running */ + mtx_lock_spin(&sched_lock); + sched_bind(curthread, 0); + mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); + KASSERT(PCPU_GET(cpuid) == 0, ("life sux")); + + /* kill em all */ + stop_cpus(PCPU_GET(other_cpus)); + + /* tell fbsd we aint smp anymore */ + mp_ncpus = 1; + all_cpus = 1; + smp_cpus = 1; + smp_started = 0; + + printf("cpus stopped\n"); +} + +extern void sorbo_start_cpus(void); /* * Set the system sleep state * @@ -2123,9 +2148,16 @@ acpi_SetSleepState(struct acpi_softc *sc UINT8 TypeA; UINT8 TypeB; enum acpi_sleep_state slp_state; + static int smp = 0; ACPI_FUNCTION_TRACE_U32((char *)(uintptr_t)__func__, state); + if (smp_started) + smp = 1; + + if (smp) + sorbo_stop_cpus(); + status = AE_OK; ACPI_LOCK(acpi); if (sc->acpi_sleep_disabled) { @@ -2241,6 +2273,10 @@ acpi_SetSleepState(struct acpi_softc *sc timeout(acpi_sleep_enable, (caddr_t)sc, hz * ACPI_MINIMUM_AWAKETIME); mtx_unlock(&Giant); + + if (smp) + sorbo_start_cpus(); + return_ACPI_STATUS (status); } Index: i386/i386/intr_machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/intr_machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -p -r1.19 intr_machdep.c --- i386/i386/intr_machdep.c 12 Jul 2006 21:22:43 -0000 1.19 +++ i386/i386/intr_machdep.c 20 Sep 2006 23:19:38 -0000 @@ -252,6 +252,7 @@ intr_execute_handlers(struct intsrc *isr td->td_intr_nesting_level--; } +extern void lapic_resume(void); void intr_resume(void) { @@ -259,6 +260,7 @@ intr_resume(void) int i; mtx_lock_spin(&intr_table_lock); + lapic_resume(); for (i = 0, isrc = interrupt_sources; i < NUM_IO_INTS; i++, isrc++) if (*isrc != NULL && (*isrc)->is_pic->pic_resume != NULL) (*isrc)->is_pic->pic_resume(*isrc); Index: i386/i386/local_apic.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/local_apic.c,v retrieving revision 1.31 diff -u -p -r1.31 local_apic.c --- i386/i386/local_apic.c 11 Sep 2006 20:12:42 -0000 1.31 +++ i386/i386/local_apic.c 20 Sep 2006 23:19:38 -0000 @@ -1117,3 +1117,14 @@ lapic_ipi_vectored(u_int vector, int des #endif /* DETECT_DEADLOCK */ } #endif /* SMP */ + +void lapic_resume(void); +void lapic_resume(void) +{ + lapic_setup(); + + /* setup BSP timer */ + lapic_timer_set_divisor(lapic_timer_divisor); + lapic_timer_periodic(lapic_timer_period); + lapic_timer_enable_intr(); +} Index: i386/i386/mp_machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.270 diff -u -p -r1.270 mp_machdep.c --- i386/i386/mp_machdep.c 11 Sep 2006 20:10:42 -0000 1.270 +++ i386/i386/mp_machdep.c 20 Sep 2006 23:19:39 -0000 @@ -503,6 +503,7 @@ init_secondary(void) int gsel_tss; int x, myid; u_int cr0; + static int resuming = 0; /* bootAP is set in start_ap() to our ID. */ myid = bootAP; @@ -643,7 +644,10 @@ init_secondary(void) * spinlock_exit() will simply adjust the counts without allowing * spin lock using code to interrupt us. */ - spinlock_exit(); + if (!resuming) { + spinlock_exit(); + resuming = 1; + } KASSERT(curthread->td_md.md_spinlock_count == 1, ("invalid count")); PCPU_SET(switchtime, cpu_ticks()); @@ -682,7 +686,7 @@ set_interrupt_apic_ids(void) apic_id % hyperthreading_cpus != 0) continue; - intr_add_cpu(apic_id); + /* intr_add_cpu(apic_id); */ } } @@ -1528,3 +1532,44 @@ mp_ipi_intrcnt(void *dummy) } SYSINIT(mp_ipi_intrcnt, SI_SUB_INTR, SI_ORDER_MIDDLE, mp_ipi_intrcnt, NULL) #endif + +void sorbo_start_cpus(void); +void sorbo_start_cpus(void) +{ + uintptr_t kptbase = (uintptr_t)(void *)KPTphys; + int i; + unsigned int *x = (unsigned int*) (KERNBASE + (u_int) IdlePTD); + register_t eflags; + + eflags = intr_disable(); + printf("starting cpus\n"); + + /* identity map the boot code of AP */ + for (i = 0; i < NKPT; i++) + x[i] = (pd_entry_t)(PG_V | PG_RW | + ((kptbase + i * PAGE_SIZE) & PG_FRAME)); + + mp_ncpus = 2; + aps_ready = 0; + invltlb(); + + /* start the AP */ + if (!start_ap(1)) + panic("Can't start AP\n"); + all_cpus |= (1 << 1); + + /* clear the identity map */ + for (i = 0; i < NKPT; i++) + x[i] = 0; + pmap_invalidate_range(kernel_pmap, 0, NKPT * NBPDR - 1); + + /* we're SMP again */ + atomic_store_rel_int(&stopped_cpus, 0); + atomic_store_rel_int(&started_cpus, 3); + + /* let the APs own it */ + release_aps(NULL); + + printf("cpus started\n"); + intr_restore(eflags); +} From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 00:44:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6A616A403 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7A643D45 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:44:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 13356 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2006 10:44:36 +1000 Received: from 203-158-61-199.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.158.61.199) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 21 Sep 2006 10:44:36 +1000 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:44:33 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Andrea Bittau Message-ID: <20060921104433.754e3893@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060921000628.GA1832@shorty.sorbonet.org> References: <20060921000628.GA1832@shorty.sorbonet.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hack for getting suspend/resume to half work on an IBM Thinkpad x60s [SMP] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:44:37 -0000 On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 01:06:28 +0100 Andrea Bittau wrote: > 2) apic. FreeBSD reconfigures the io apic upon resume, but not the local > apic. The patch attached to this mail fixes this. Indeed, it almost does so > in the "proper" way and not so much of a hack =D. Hi Andrea, would the apic patch work by itself with stable? I've got a z60m (uni-core though), but resume just wont work while apic is enabled. I'd be happy to test it if you think it'd help (and there is some chance it'll work). thanks again, B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness... This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector." Plato I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 07:53:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4E916A415 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.bittau@cs.ucl.ac.uk) Received: from darkircop.org (tapir.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.66.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9170D43D68 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:53:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from a.bittau@cs.ucl.ac.uk) Received: by darkircop.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id 12840861CE4; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:53:52 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:53:52 +0100 From: Andrea Bittau To: Norberto Meijome Message-ID: <20060921075352.GB3052@shorty.sorbonet.org> References: <20060921000628.GA1832@shorty.sorbonet.org> <20060921104433.754e3893@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060921104433.754e3893@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Echelon: Bush Bomb War KGB Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hack for getting suspend/resume to half work on an IBM Thinkpad x60s [SMP] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:53:57 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:44:33AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > would the apic patch work by itself with stable? I've got a z60m (uni-core I think it will. Just add the lapic_resume() function in local_apic.c and then call it from intr_resume() in intr_machdep.c. Basically you only need to apply 3 hunks from my diff: 1) lapic_resume prototype 2) lapic_resume call 3) lapic_resume definition If the code works for you, I don't see why it shouldn't go in -CURRENT after some style fixups. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 13:35:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3015416A403 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl (mx1.unixguru.nl [84.16.238.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8839B43D60 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:35:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F59451C for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:35:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl ([84.16.238.226]) by localhost (vs8616 [84.16.238.226]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13277-06 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:35:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.unixguru.nl (cc1029189-b.emmen1.dr.home.nl [212.120.110.227]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43324519 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:35:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (sun.unixguru.nl [192.168.10.7]) by mail.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D856B56470 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:35:06 +0200 From: Richard Arends To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060921133506.GA13081@sun.unixguru.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixguru.nl Subject: Thinkpad T60 with Atheros Wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:35:14 -0000 Hello, I did some research for the Thinkpad T60 because I want to order one. The included wifi card (Intel 3945) is not (yet) supported by FreeBSD. But, one of the listed Thinkpad options is "ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini-PCI Express Adapter" with partnumber 40Y7026. Searching the net i found an article ( http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=27043&sid=3e47ebfdf7d193b263bca866c5c7c9ed ) that's telling me that it's an Atheros AR5006EX with the AR5423 chipset. Does anybody know if that card is by accident :) supported by the ath(hal) driver? If is isn't, can i use this card with ndiswrapper? -- Regards, Richard. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 15:08:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAAC16A416 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@matthoran.com) Received: from kermit.weehours.com (kermit.weehours.com [216.177.3.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8EF43D55 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:08:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@matthoran.com) Received: by kermit.weehours.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AFB6611461; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:08:33 -0400 From: Matt Horan To: Richard Arends Message-ID: <20060921150833.GC82566@kermit.weehours.com> References: <20060921133506.GA13081@sun.unixguru.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060921133506.GA13081@sun.unixguru.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad T60 with Atheros Wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:08:35 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 03:35:06PM +0200, Richard Arends wrote: > Does anybody know if that card is by accident :) supported by the > ath(hal) driver? If is isn't, can i use this card with ndiswrapper? I'm currently using this card with no problems. -- Matt Horan matt@matthoran.com http://matthoran.com/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 21 17:06:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCAE16A40F for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl (mx1.unixguru.nl [84.16.238.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2BB43D5E for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4CC451B; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:06:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl ([84.16.238.226]) by localhost (vs8616 [84.16.238.226]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04168-10; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:06:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.unixguru.nl (cc1029189-b.emmen1.dr.home.nl [212.120.110.227]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392144519; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:06:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (sun.unixguru.nl [192.168.10.7]) by mail.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF27956470; Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:05:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:06:04 +0200 From: Richard Arends To: Matt Horan Message-ID: <20060921170604.GB13081@sun.unixguru.nl> References: <20060921133506.GA13081@sun.unixguru.nl> <20060921150833.GC82566@kermit.weehours.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060921150833.GC82566@kermit.weehours.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixguru.nl Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad T60 with Atheros Wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:06:09 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:08:33AM -0400, Matt Horan wrote: Matt, > I'm currently using this card with no problems. Thanks, that's great news. -- Regards, Richard. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 00:14:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D5816A415 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783EA43D49 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 21023 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2006 10:14:35 +1000 Received: from 210-84-59-175.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (210.84.59.175) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 22 Sep 2006 10:14:35 +1000 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:14:30 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Andrea Bittau Message-ID: <20060922101430.6d8109e8@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060921075352.GB3052@shorty.sorbonet.org> References: <20060921000628.GA1832@shorty.sorbonet.org> <20060921104433.754e3893@localhost> <20060921075352.GB3052@shorty.sorbonet.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hack for getting suspend/resume to half work on an IBM Thinkpad x60s [SMP] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:14:37 -0000 On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:53:52 +0100 Andrea Bittau wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:44:33AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > > would the apic patch work by itself with stable? I've got a z60m (uni-core > > I think it will. Just add the lapic_resume() function in local_apic.c and > then call it from intr_resume() in intr_machdep.c. Basically you only need > to apply 3 hunks from my diff: > 1) lapic_resume prototype > 2) lapic_resume call > 3) lapic_resume definition > > If the code works for you, I don't see why it shouldn't go in -CURRENT after > some style fixups. ok - i'll give it a try when i get some time. Right now, RELENG_6 is halting on every single resume. RELENG_6_1 works fine as long as I have pmtimer built in (otherwise the whole system crawls after a resume - and I mean literally crawls - 5 seconds for an enter to show the next prompt., 20 minutes to restart (usually takes 40 seconds from a completelly logged out state). cheers, B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "Against logic there is no armor like ignorance." Laurence J. Peter I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 09:42:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E612316A403 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5486143D5C for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:42:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (wvaron@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8M9gABa079088; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:42:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k8M9gAlG079087; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:42:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:42:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200609220942.k8M9gAlG079087@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de In-Reply-To: <1158783978.4511a3ea1f22f@www.domainfactory-webmail.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-mobile User-Agent: tin/1.8.0-20051224 ("Ronay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:42:16 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg (i810) freezes randomly when using hardware accel X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:42:18 -0000 Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > I have pretty much the same setup with a Samsung notebook: > > Centrino, 915GM chipset, FreeBSD RELENG_6 (which is now > > 6.2-PRERELEASE), Xorg 6.9.0, i810 driver. I have never > > experienced freezes. > > Is there anything interesting in your Xorg setup? My relevant xorg.conf sections > look like this: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "truei810" > Driver "i810" > VideoRam 131072 > # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate > EndSection I think you should _not_ override the VideoRam. Let it autodetect the amount of video RAM. > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen 1" > Device "truei810" > Monitor "glare" > DefaultDepth 24 > > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x800" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection Here's my config: Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "i810" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection # I don't think the "BusID" line is necessary; # it's a left-over from previous experiments. Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection > > If all X-related processes are gone, can you restart the X > > server? What happens if you try? > > > No. It doesn't show up in the process list, so I assume it exits with an error > right away. You assume? I'm pretty sure there _must_ be something in the logs, or an error message on stdout/stderr when you try to start the X server. (BTW, how do you start it?) > There is no core file. However, Xorg.0.log shows the following: > > Error in I830WaitLpRing(), now is 551900, start is 549899 > pgetbl_ctl: 0x3ffc0001 pgetbl_err: 0x0 > ipeir: 0 iphdr: 1810000 > LP ring tail: fe08 head: fd64 len: 1f801 start 0 > eir: 0 esr: 0 emr: ffff > instdone: ffc0 instpm: 0 > memmode: 108 instps: f0000 > hwstam: ffff ier: 0 imr: ffff iir: 0 > space: 130900 wanted 131064 > > FatalError re-entered, aborting > lockup That doesn't look good. I've never seen such error messages before. I think the people on an Xorg mailing list will be able to interpret those messages much better. It looks like something is wrong with the detection or alloaction of video RAM, but I'm not sure. You mentioned that you run FreeBSD 6.1. Does that mean 6.1-RELEASE? If yes, you should consider updating to RELENG_6 ("6-stable"), which is currently in code freeze for the 6.2 release cycle. I'm running it on my notebook, too. > > You could try to log in on the text console (blindly) and > > type "vidcontrol 80x25" to reset the standard text mode. > > If you log in via ssh, you must redirect stdin so it uses > > the right text console (you need to be root for this): > > "vidcontrol 80x25 > I can indeed log in blindly. When running "who" from a remote login the > additional logins show up. Unfortunately vidcontrol doesn't help. All that ever > happened was that the screen went from all white to all black. Did you try the VESA mode suggestion? What happened? It should either reset the screen mode, or print an error message (if VESA isn't supported). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "Clear perl code is better than unclear awk code; but NOTHING comes close to unclear perl code" (taken from comp.lang.awk FAQ) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 11:06:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8138A16A403 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix.schalck@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91CA43D4C for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:06:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from felix.schalck@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so1211602nfc for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:06:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ioyx4iWvZg2E7C3fshclgWtjF6qz8yMUD7RjMdTTxpp2ALvJRlrcrUgPv32TjsfXmVeQEe+IVXJXAL3h50+SFCnOvywlra44IGf/cvVhRW8gsrznb+L1ejJZgmo/VYfynN8YGyVHAXqrS5IUNifOW7j6zflWciMdsL5zMnz6J8Y= Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr1867252nfi; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.123? ( [212.198.184.41]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p72sm7098106nfc.2006.09.22.04.06.18; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4513C3A7.4090607@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:06:15 +0200 From: "felix.schalck" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060828) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Battery on Clevo M120 W X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:06:21 -0000 Hello, I don't know wether it is the right place to post this; i first tried freebsd-acpi, but didn't get any response: maybe I did something wrong... Well: I'm was running FreeBSD 5.4 on my laptop without any main problem related to acpi. But since I upgraded to 6 - Stable, I miss the battery life status, which is very annoying... Since it worked on 5.4, it might not be an ASL problem (anyway: it tried acpidump & ald *.dump and only got 2 minor errors). Does someone experience a similar problem ? Related to the battery: the handbook provided by the vendor describes the battery as a smart batt, although demsg shows battery0: . Is it possible to force the load of sm_batt ? Secondly: i'm getting a wrong acpi-line status every time I'm rebooting. After unplugging the ac adapter, and reconnecting it, everything seems to work fine. Perhaps the adapter is not ready when it's first beeing tested ? Is there any way to force a new status-init a bit later ? Any help or comments woudl be greatly appreciated. I find it to stupid to leave FreeBSD because of a batt problem; so I ready to read-and-do everything's neccessary to get it working again. If required, I can post system log or acpi messages. Thanks for help, Felix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 13:14:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DDA16A412 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gdt@ir.bbn.com) Received: from fnord.ir.bbn.com (fnord.ir.bbn.com [192.1.100.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E98943D49 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:14:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gdt@ir.bbn.com) Received: by fnord.ir.bbn.com (Postfix, from userid 10853) id DB7E4528E; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:14:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Troxel To: Richard Arends In-Reply-To: <20060920133152.GC26493@sun.unixguru.nl> (Richard Arends's message of "Wed\, 20 Sep 2006 15\:31\:52 +0200") References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> <20060920133152.GC26493@sun.unixguru.nl> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) X-Hashcash: 1:20:060922:richard@unixguru.nl::aTbhmQsp5wPJy6eY:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000002Oxi X-Hashcash: 1:20:060922:freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org::7aWSLVgTjI7nc0hE:000000000000000000000000000000000005Yvb Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:14:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:14:53 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Arends writes: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 08:55:47AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >> The one issue is that after starting X the text consoles appear to be a >> view into a larger screen with too-large fonts. >=20=20 > You mean the normale text screens, thus after closing X? Yes, or e.g. Fn-F1 to switch without stopping X. >> Someone reported that the ATI binary driver from linux can be made to >> work. >=20=20 > Hmm, that would be nice. But on my current laptop i'm also using the vesa > driver, so that's not a real problem for me. > >> (Not freebsd experience, but close and posted in the hope it's >> helpful.) > > It is :) > > Do you have wireless working?? Yes, but I bought it with the IBM/Atheros part. =2D-=20 Greg Troxel --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFFE+HM+vesoDJhHiURAl6uAJ0RDLISAPDgkY/08W6tkM5xzMB/JACgtnbO nvKjaWuetHEUIVFqujV/ygg= =8BUG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 13:22:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4C016A416 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gdt@ir.bbn.com) Received: from fnord.ir.bbn.com (fnord.ir.bbn.com [192.1.100.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C5043D5D for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:22:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gdt@ir.bbn.com) Received: by fnord.ir.bbn.com (Postfix, from userid 10853) id 25C8A528E; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:22:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Troxel To: Norberto Meijome In-Reply-To: <20060920235022.110239cb@localhost> (Norberto Meijome's message of "Wed\, 20 Sep 2006 23\:50\:22 +1000") References: <450F137F.6060000@dougbarton.us> <20060920235022.110239cb@localhost> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) X-Hashcash: 1:20:060922:freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org::KXSvNHWaDyFo38D3:000000000000000000000000000000000007ZKJ X-Hashcash: 1:20:060922:freebsd@meijome.net::D26nUMNFnucx0d+o:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000GBqd Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:22:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using thinkpad R series? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:22:19 -0000 Norberto Meijome writes: > really?! wow.. where where where :) Here's the (on a public list) message: From: Brian de Alwis Subject: ATI Proprietary driver on X11 and NetBSD (was Re: Thinkpad T60 mostly works - trouble with wm(4)) To: Greg Troxel Cc: port-i386@NetBSD.org Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:36:52 -0700 > Someone (who I won't name unless they want to speak up > in public) tells me they have a binary ATI driver working; they and I > hope to get that into pkgsrc. Well that'd be me. And as I am on a hard paper deadline and then travelling (not to mention that this was surprisingly easy), I'll post what I've figured out so far. Basically, it's possible to get multi-screen/dual-head working using the XFree86 4.5.0 bundled with NetBSD. Haven't looked at the OpenGL or XVideo. This was prompted by a FreeBSD port of an older set of the ATI drivers by Chris Gilbert. Looking through it, I realized that the port involved only recompiling the user-land components, and that he was able to use the ATI binary drivers as is. He is currently working on porting the kernel driver, though that's only appears to be necessary for 3D. So I fetched the latest ATI drivers (8.27.10) from www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run and extracted them: ./ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run --extract /var/tmp/ati-driver This includes drivers for * XFree86 4.3.0 and later (in .../x430/) * X.Org 6.8.0 (x680/) * X.Org 6.9.0 (x690/) * X.Org 7.1.0 (x710/) There are some helper programs in arch/x86/usr/X11R6/bin, particularly aticonfig. As I have the stock XFree86 4.5.0 provided with NetBSD, I then did: cp x430/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o \ /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ cp x430/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a \ /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/ Surprisingly, with an appropriately configured XF86Config, that's enough to get it working. You can use the aticonfig program to process and setup your XF86Config file. It does a mostly nice job. Basically all you need is a device section as follows: Section "Device" Identifier "fglrx0" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Driver "fglrx" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "firegl" Option "VideoOverlay" "on" Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" Option "EnablePrivateBackZ" "yes" Option "no_dri" "on" # Need to have SWCursor on to enable a real cursor on screen1, # but leaves mouse turds on screen0. Unfortunately can't # configure to only use software cursor on driver 2. Sigh. #Option "SWCursor" "on" EndSection Apparently XVideo support is only available for the X.Org drivers. I haven't installed X.Org to try yet. You can play with ServerLayouts to try Dual-Head with Xinerama, or setting up Multiple Screens. I found I needed to toggle back to to the console VT at least once for it to pick up the second monitor. I've appended my XF86Config with two working layouts here. Note that this doesn't work perfectly: * without the SWCursor option, the cursor doesn't appear on the second screen; * with the SWCursor option, the mouse leaves little turds on both screens. This is a known problem under Linux too, and is apparently fixed by using the kernel module. I found in my exploration that it was easy to get to a hosed state where you are flying blind. If you want to play with this, I'd suggest having some way to restore your video; I saved a known working XF86Config file somewhere and then set up a little script to use it: #!/bin/sh X -xf86config /etc/X11/XF86Config.reset vt02 -nolisten tcp "$@" Some useful sites: http://debian.wgdd.de/temp/fglrx_man/fglrx.4x.html http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#With_the_proprietary_binary_d river http://ati.cchtml.com Brian. -- Brian de Alwis | Software Practices Lab | UBC | http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~bsd/ "Amusement to an observing mind is study." - Benjamin Disraeli From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 22:40:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11E816A47E for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from mx1.augustakom.net (mx1.augustakom.net [80.81.6.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2884743D53 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:40:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from 215.1-dial.augustakom.net ([80.81.1.215] helo=yeti.mininet) by mx1.augustakom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GQtgf-000139-9z for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:40:02 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.1 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 From: "Markus Hoenicka" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17684.26155.124036.771316@yeti.mininet> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:39:39 +0200 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200609220942.k8M9gAlG079087@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <1158783978.4511a3ea1f22f@www.domainfactory-webmail.de> <200609220942.k8M9gAlG079087@lurza.secnetix.de> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 80.81.1.215 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mx1.augustakom.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg (i810) freezes randomly when using hardware accel X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:40:19 -0000 Oliver Fromme writes: > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "truei810" > > Driver "i810" > > VideoRam 131072 > > # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate > > EndSection > > I think you should _not_ override the VideoRam. Let it > autodetect the amount of video RAM. > I was under the impression that there is no autodetection in the case of shared video ram. In any case, using a different VideoRam setting or none at all does not change the problem. Googling for the Xorg error message gave a few hits, e.g. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810/+bug/22741 which makes me think this is not a FreeBSD-specific problem. Moreover, it is likely to get fixed in a new release. So what I'd like to focus on is how I can get my console back after X got stuck. > > No. It doesn't show up in the process list, so I assume it exits with an error > > right away. > > You assume? I'm pretty sure there _must_ be something in > the logs, or an error message on stdout/stderr when you try > to start the X server. (BTW, how do you start it?) > I tried both ways you suggested: 1) run startx blindly. The login test told me that the box still listens to keypresses, so I assumed this might work 2) log in via ssh and run startx You mentioned that you run FreeBSD 6.1. Does that mean > 6.1-RELEASE? If yes, you should consider updating to > RELENG_6 ("6-stable"), which is currently in code freeze > for the 6.2 release cycle. I'm running it on my notebook, > too. > FreeBSD yeti.mininet 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #1: Mon Aug 28 22:24:48 CEST 2006 markus@yeti.mininet:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/YETI i386 > Did you try the VESA mode suggestion? What happened? It > should either reset the screen mode, or print an error > message (if VESA isn't supported). > I tried the vidcontrol stuff without X. Setting 80x25 or VGA_80x25 does work, whereas VESA_132x25 causes an error message saying VESA is not supported. However, if I try one of these suggestions after X froze (either blindly or through ssh) the screen is not affected except that it sometime goes from all white to all black. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka@cats.de (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 22 22:56:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CAB16A416 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx24.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E93943D45 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:56:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 28876 invoked by uid 399); 22 Sep 2006 22:56:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Sep 2006 22:56:13 -0000 Message-ID: <45146A0A.9070506@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:56:10 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060917) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Arends References: <20060921133506.GA13081@sun.unixguru.nl> In-Reply-To: <20060921133506.GA13081@sun.unixguru.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad T60 with Atheros Wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:56:15 -0000 Richard Arends wrote: > Hello, > > I did some research for the Thinkpad T60 because I want to order > one. The included wifi card (Intel 3945) is not (yet) supported by > FreeBSD. > > But, one of the listed Thinkpad options is "ThinkPad 11a/b/g > Wireless LAN Mini-PCI Express Adapter" with partnumber 40Y7026. > Searching the net i found an article (http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=27043&sid=3e47ebfdf7d193b263bca866c5c7c9ed) > that's telling me that it's an Atheros AR5006EX with the AR5423 > chipset. > > Does anybody know if that card is by accident :) supported by the > ath(hal) driver? It certainly should be. I'm very interested in your results, since I'm planning to order that card either from lenovo (currently 15 days out of stock) or possibly from PCD Global (anyone have experience with them?). From the research I've done, the 5423 is the most advanced Atheros chip available with a/b/g in the mini-pci express form factor. If anyone can prove me wrong, or point to another vendor that sells an Atheros card with this chip, or the 5424, I'd appreciate it. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 23 08:59:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DF816A40F; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl (mx1.unixguru.nl [84.16.238.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD6B43D49; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:59:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704B9451C; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:59:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl ([84.16.238.226]) by localhost (vs8616 [84.16.238.226]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21877-03; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:59:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.unixguru.nl (cc1029189-b.emmen1.dr.home.nl [212.120.110.227]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB41A451B; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:59:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (sun.unixguru.nl [192.168.10.7]) by mail.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9B056470; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:58:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:59:09 +0200 From: Richard Arends To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20060923085909.GM13081@sun.unixguru.nl> References: <20060921133506.GA13081@sun.unixguru.nl> <45146A0A.9070506@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45146A0A.9070506@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixguru.nl Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad T60 with Atheros Wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:59:16 -0000 On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 03:56:10PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: Doug, > It certainly should be. I'm very interested in your results, since I'm > planning to order that card either from lenovo (currently 15 days out > of stock) I placed an order yesterday for the T60 with the Atheros card. I also expect some problems with the delivery of the Atheros card, bu we will see. If I got it all I will mail my experience to this list. -- Regards, Richard. 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From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 23 16:04:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3989A16A522 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from poup.poupinou.org (poup.poupinou.org [195.101.94.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A566A43DC1 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:04:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ducrot@poupinou.org) Received: from ducrot by poup.poupinou.org with local (Exim) id 1GR9zO-0005ic-00; Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:04:26 +0200 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:04:26 +0200 To: Norberto Meijome Message-ID: <20060923160426.GU4945@poupinou.org> References: <20060921000628.GA1832@shorty.sorbonet.org> <20060921104433.754e3893@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060921104433.754e3893@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Bruno Ducrot Cc: Andrea Bittau , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hack for getting suspend/resume to half work on an IBM Thinkpad x60s [SMP] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:04:58 -0000 On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:44:33AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 01:06:28 +0100 > Andrea Bittau wrote: > > > 2) apic. FreeBSD reconfigures the io apic upon resume, but not the local > > apic. The patch attached to this mail fixes this. Indeed, it almost does so > > in the "proper" way and not so much of a hack =D. > > Hi Andrea, > would the apic patch work by itself with stable? I've got a z60m (uni-core > though), but resume just wont work while apic is enabled. I'd be happy to test > it if you think it'd help (and there is some chance it'll work). > On uniprocessor systems you should consider atpic anyway if you want more powersaving. According to acpi(4) in BUGS section, there are some bugs still so that you can't use advanced power states into the idle loop and having a reliable lapic timer at the same time. -- Bruno Ducrot -- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? -- Don't know. Don't care.